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I've got to start over, no wait, turn this on. Good morning.

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August 17th, 2026. It's 10 old five already, the start commission meeting. I'm Commissioner Blackburn.

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Commissioner Kerry Cook. Commissioner Brian. Michael Wade, county three.

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Edward Stephanie Clerk. Colleen Allen, Wayne County Recorders, pressure.

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to CalPACE, Commission Secretary.

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And other members of the public, thank you for being here.

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I'd like to start with a word of prayer and a pledge.

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Mr. Kid, would you pray for us today?

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Sure.

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Our fallen heaven.

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We're grateful for the opportunity which we have to meet together in commissioning today

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and take care of the business of the county.

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We're grateful for the many blessings which stop.

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blesses us with for the beautiful place where we live and for the success which we've had of

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our county fire this weekend. We're grateful for all the hands that have chipped in and worried

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and volunteered to help make things a success. We're grateful for the many families which are here

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and we're grateful for the tragedies which have made our county people better

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that they look out for each other more often, and we ask thee to bless them, and we ask thee

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to bless us today that we may be able to do things according to thy will that we may

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be productive, that we may be able to accomplish the tasks which you're here for us. We're grateful

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for the freedoms which we enjoy, and for the blessings of where we live, and we do this

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in the name of Jesus Christ.

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Can I read this in a play?

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I apologize.

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I apologize to the people I, the United States of America,

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and to the Republic for which it stands,

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Long Nation, on the God,

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Intervisible with Liberty and Justice for our own.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Minutes.

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In the effect correction.

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With the correction of the dollar figures,

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section. The all second.

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I understand

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the agenda. Nicole, welcome.

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I wasn't sure what information you wanted, so I thought I would bring you. These are the

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syllabus. This is the little chef's class. And this is the amount of

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primary class. Morgan Knight will be teaching the little chef's cooking class. We've

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expanded it to ages 5 to 9 because there are so many kids that want to take it.

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And now entrepreneurship class is age 9 and above.

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Right now we've got 12 kids enrolled in a little chef class and 9 in the entrepreneurship

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class.

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So safeorship academy is kind of like a co-op.

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I don't know if any of you have ever homeschooled or know about homeschooling, but often the parents

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will teach the core classes, math, and language arts, and then the other parents will get together

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and do other classes.

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So we have science, we have PE, we have forcemanship, we have

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We have our class, we have history, so we've got 15 classes, 38 kids, they have a meeting

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in my house, but we're growing out of my house, so we're looking to the community center.

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We also have a satellite campus in Hanceville, we've got 13 kids in Hanceville.

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So these are all from school families, and we just gather new classes together.

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And I do work with Kate Chappell quite a bit, our kids are very involved in 4-H and in the

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fair and all of that.

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So, that's kind of what spurred this idea is for each day one of the cooking classes.

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They offered one and then did another one for the elders and our kids just really want

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to learn about cooking and we thought having a commercial kitchen would be better than

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our household kitchen.

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So, that's why we applied for the good, the waiver for the convenience and but what can I

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tell you about sagebrush Academy?

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So, how long have you been going?

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This is our fourth year where Utah State approved private school so I get a lot

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of the kids have scholarship from Utah. It's all scholarship. A few of them don't.

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We're starting to get kids that are just coming to be public classes but yeah it's

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So the state of Utah have a homeschool scholarship that people can apply for to fund curriculum

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classes, things like that.

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So if the kids receive the homeschool scholarship, they can apply that towards buying their own

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curriculum, more classes, or going to another private school, or whatever they want.

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So the Van Dyke family, Dave and Cassie Van Dyke, for example, are kids go to something called Kimber Academy

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and their scholarship covers the fees for Kimber Academy and whatever other educational expenses they come up with.

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So these classes for the high school, the kids that have a scholarship, these classes cost $400 a month.

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Well, even those who don't have a scholarship, typically pay $40 a month for a classic, so they use a scholarship.

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I mean, $40 a month is for...

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Oh, I paid a teacher.

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So I made administrator at the school, and I paid a teacher.

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So if you did, you got some teachers that didn't pay you.

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Yeah, they get paid $10 for student per class.

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One thing that one kind of concern that I've thought of since we've talked about this

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is, you know, we do have county insurance.

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Do you have insurance?

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for, say, church academy, you know, I don't, do I need to get a,

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something happened in the class.

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Yeah, something happens on County property, somebody gets burned,

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somebody gets locked in the freezer and freezes.

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I'm just going to give you that one, but, you know,

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there's just a possibility.

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My ability is kind of to become a big thing for us.

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Okay.

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Are there still fire in the kitchen burns down?

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I'm not sure, I mean, I don't know what.

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So while we use the facilities,

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sagebrush academy, whole liability for any incidents

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that would happen.

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We need something like that.

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That's a good thing, Michael.

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We prefer that, Billy.

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Yes, a lot better, so.

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And then there will be cost to the county for electricity

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and he, you know, that kind of stuff.

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OK.

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I'm not sure how it will be that.

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So I don't know if I wonder if it ought to be just a partial, if not just a regular fee.

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The more I thought about it, especially if you're getting some.

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The.

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Well, that just pays for teacher.

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It doesn't go to me.

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Sure.

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And the classes are free for communities.

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Kids that come.

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These classes of committees and there would be free for any community.

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Kids.

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That's just for the scholarship students, if they don't have a scholarship, they don't pay for the class.

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Okay.

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Yeah. So that's why we thought we can offer this as a service to the kids and the county, if we can,

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but what paying $200 a day for the facilities are just, that would be cost prohibitive for us, so we'd have to.

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Is that one of these?

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It's 25 for the kitchen.

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So it would be twice a month, it

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goes through it from September to May during the school year basically and the after-school

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country vlog.

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Some kind of, well I think we probably better have some kind of a liability thing and I almost want to say $100 a month for take care of the expenses.

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Okay, the power will have our maintenance guy shows up and does stuff, you know, that's

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pretty reduced.

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And I'm just throwing that out.

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I don't know what you guys think.

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Well, I think it's important that the applicant know why we want the fee to

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use the facilities.

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But you're going to book the facility and nobody else can be able to use it either.

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Well, I understood that the rooms work could be in use while we were there.

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We would just use the kitchen and the classroom.

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And the contract has us clean up after the contract had assigned to liability as well.

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And most of us did all of this and everybody has to go through it.

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Yeah.

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This guy is quite extensive and also the liability, like you can't have a complain so I can't

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think so.

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So it's really, it would cover the cost of clean up and just associate it with me.

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That's why it's important.

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That's all I'm concerned about.

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I'm not really concerned about it.

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I'm just going to cover our costs.

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And as far as the insurance

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is concerned.

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There's more to get some state news coming in.

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Yeah. Well, it's not my money.

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I know. I understand.

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But the parents can use it to pay the teachers.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And I know what you're telling me.

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Yeah. I mean, as far as the insurance

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a doorstep. We would prefer that as well. Just name in the county as sure. So, so

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do you need insurance and just the waiver? Well, we want the insurance endorsement.

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That way you would bear the risk as the individual should something happen. I mean it's

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more of your own risk of urgent but we would prefer it so if something were to

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happened. That might also make it cost prohibitive, I don't know, because these are just, we're

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not making a lot of money on these things. And should I, I, I, I lose no bat. So, the business,

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liability insurance.

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Typically, it's a private, well, we're sure. Well, we had me, I am, so

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it's considered a business. So I think it could get pretty costly. But we, in the way.

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Well,

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I prefer it, but as far as I do, if I, as the administrator, are willing to bear the risk,

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if something happens, they get it.

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Basically, so county is in help.

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Byable, if there's an accident, which I'm comfortable with.

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Or you, or you, or you, yeah, protect yourself as well.

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Right.

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I can help with that if you want.

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Okay.

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So how long do those students, it's not a big deal.

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They're age 5 to 15.

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It's like a middle school, elementary middle school.

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In a year or five, I want to see it right here. No, I'm not, I'm not asked for it right now. Okay, I think

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that's, I think those are the questions that I really had.

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So, my

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concern was a lot of times with stuff like with 4-H and stuff. We struggle to get students to attend the support programs that we already have going. So, part of my hesitation was that portion, but you've already mentioned that just,

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I would say our students probably attend 4-H the most, although these students are totally

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separate from Cates.

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You're dealing with a different group, and you're dealing with younger kids that don't

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have anything offered by 4-H also in that group, but if you could encourage 4-H participation

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support that program also. We need to build up. We don't need to tear it apart.

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For sure. Actually, I just talked to Kate on Saturday because 4H has an engineering class.

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Those little mini golf courses that kids built. And we're offering an engineering class

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to take Russian Academy. So we're going to work together on that because typically what 4H

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offers is 1 or 2 classes. These are 18 week courses. This is the more in-depth thing.

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So, I think not in case they're thrilled that the idea of having somebody who's committed

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to carrying something more than what they're doing.

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That's good.

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So, we work, we work a lot better.

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Anyway, we'd love to be able to use it if we can.

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And it's going to cost a lot, we'll stay with my kitchen, but I prefer not to.

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That's a lot of kids and a little kitchen.

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And I think it will, let's see if we can work out through some of those names, particularly

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the library.

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I'm so accountable.

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We've already, we've already made the motion of the way so we have to go back and change

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that.

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And there was some mention of Wednesday's being busy at the community center.

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I don't know if he keeps the schedule or he's guys.

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It just depends on if there's any other people already on okay that day we have to look at the schedule

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You've got to come in we have to look at those dates once they're approved by the commissioners

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Okay, sit down and book it out for you. Okay, but there's nobody on there. Yeah, it's okay. I'm letting those dates in time

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All right, that sounds good. Our teachers are anxious to know when they're teaching they're hoping for Wednesday from 3 to 5

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But if we need to change it so if they have the kitchen and you but you basically need that big room to

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There's just a classroom on the side.

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Okay, but then you're going to be walking through the big room.

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So if somebody else is having an event in there,

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you're going to be going to be going to the kitchen to,

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I guess, if you could go outside.

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Yeah, two separate classes.

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So I think you can close off the kitchen

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so they can come from the outside,

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which is what they did at 4H.

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And at the classroom, you can go into it without going into the room.

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Yeah, that's the senior citizen right next door.

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Yeah.

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It's not the senior citizen room.

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There's another classroom. It's got three tables round table.

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I'm just trying to remember.

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That's the senior citizen room is dedicated.

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And it's got a common on it.

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And I see you have one in between them.

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Yeah.

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It's not a senior citizen.

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Okay.

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It's a smaller.

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No, they use it often.

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And if we, you know, we can schedule, we can change the schedule.

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It just helps to know if we've got, you know,

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40 kids coming in.

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It's good to know in advance.

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If it's not just set Wednesdays, if you're open to like Thursdays or Tuesdays or somehow.

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Yeah, we can move it around.

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20 in a start.

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September 18th is our first day.

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So I guess it would be that's 18th is a Friday, so it would be the 16th.

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16th.

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Okay, so.

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I appreciate you coming.

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Tell us this kind of, we kind of lost a little bit.

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Yeah, I also, there's a website.

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There's no sagebrush academy.org.

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It's got all the information over there.

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It's kind of it, it's kind of becoming a thing.

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It started out as just a little tiny home school co-op

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that it's becoming popular.

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OK, so I assume that being associated with the state

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and everything that all of the adults that are involved

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with kids are back down, check, and prove.

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Well, you know, they're not because they teach their own kids, that's something we've

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been asked to look at.

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And if they're teaching the other kids, they're involved with more than they're all.

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Yeah, you're right.

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No, they haven't in that project.

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I guess that would be up to me as an administrator.

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And that may be another liability issue for the administrator and worry about.

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But we've got 10 teachers.

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I know them pretty well.

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I work with most of them and I'm sure, but I think that it's not very difficult to get

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a background check on teachers, so if it creates a feeling of confidence, I think we can

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do that.

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You have a feeling of protection for the kids.

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For sure.

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You have the child protection course.

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Yeah.

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I think that's a good thing.

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That's a good idea.

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Okay.

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We can incorporate that into our teacher training.

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Other stuff.

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I know there's a lot of things to do.

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for more than even longer, I do this.

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I realize there's a lot of consideration

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of teaching kids, but I think they open up and do more.

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And we really do want it to be a service for the county.

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We do have these kids that are committed

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because they have a scholarship requirement

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to go to so many classes and all that,

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but there's not a lot of options for kids in the county.

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So we made it after school, so kids in public school

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can come, we wanted to do something that engages them.

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for example a lot of our kids my kids have 13 injuries in the fair and that's

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all from stuff they made in our class you know we want to engage it we want to

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integrate into the county we're not just you know yeah good good thank you so

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are you raised elementary through high school not through high school right now just

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15 but because it's home school it's not they're not necessarily on certain grade

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levels they don't have to do testing the parents are ultimately responsible for

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their faculty and their kids. How many charter schools are here in the county? Well it's not a charter school

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it's private so Charter's public and private is not so I'm going on a private

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school whether you talk it's all a scholarship in Wayne County as far as I know I don't know there's

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so many charter schools are there. There are no charter schools in the charter schools. So you're the only

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other alternative for public education here in the county organized yes. Okay so other just home

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school other than just going on your own yeah okay so you're leading the

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home school charge basically yeah that's really cool that's good yeah there's lots

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of them especially down in Hanksville you know and you've got a little kid you

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don't want to send him on the bus for four hours you see your total of the

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moments 40 40 students yeah yeah 40 students 13 Hanksville right now there's more

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families in Hanksville but those are the ones who got the scholarship we started out

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with the scholarship four years ago but it's getting much more competitive so I

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I had ten families on our wait list this year, and I went to your loan, got the scholarship after being a loan.

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So they don't give it to everybody then?

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No, they do not.

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Okay.

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So there are some kind of homeschool programs that you get to get into with all this scholarship.

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It's all the scholarships. It's called the Utah Fits all scholarship.

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It's awarded to the parents, and then the parents can go through certain approved channels like private schools, or curriculum, or whatever.

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it's very, very closely embedded. In fact, I've just audited a few years ago, it's under a lot of scrutiny, trying to get rid of it.

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So it's kind of the hard-of-education problem.

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Yes, so I am very regulated.

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But yeah, you're right, there are still liability issues, and we could do background screening through the parents that would make it feel more.

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I will make another motion in addition to this last one that we do look into insurance

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and pull them in the county live room and let's look at this again in six months and see

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about the fee.

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so I'd like to make the fee waiver for just six months going forward and then see

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where because we already proved that so I'd like to see it just in a short

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way you know kind maybe we can get an idea of what's that's my motion and yeah

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No,

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I'm liable. Not liable.

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Yes, not liable.

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Not liable.

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So that's my motion.

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Our second motion.

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To be re-value ready for the next two months.

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Sounds good.

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Motion in a second.

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All in favor?

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Hi.

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All right.

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Okay, thank you very much.

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Thanks for coming.

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Yeah, thank you.

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Jones and Demail.

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You're going to talk about our favorite ride.

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Our favorite subject.

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Oh yeah.

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We do have somewhat good news. I think it's good news.

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It's right on your door. Not that good of me.

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So we opened bids on the contract last week before I dive into the bid results.

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So there's two pages que hand it out.

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The first one on top there's just kind of a summary.

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The second one's the detailed bids from every contractor.

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After a few high points, we received seven bids, which is great for a project of this

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nature.

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It's not your traditional project that you'd see bid out in our region, obviously.

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So we were glad to have that much interest.

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There's a couple things I want to point out as well on the bids.

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You'll notice our probable cost, if you dig into it, our probable cost is listed at $1.3

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million.

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dollars. If you think back a couple of months ago when we were here, probably back when

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Jameson was helping you fill out the application. We kept using a cost of 940,000 was what

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our internal probable cost was. The FAA had a little bit of heartburn with our probable

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cost. They thought it was a little too low and there were some ramifications. If our probable

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cost was a percentage lower than what the actual low bid was, then they would potentially

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make us reject the bids and start over, go through the whole process, best case scenario

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they'd make us go through a process on their end to justify the low bid and make sure

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that it was competitive and properly priced.

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So they did let us revise our probable cost, if you will, and that's where the 1.3 million

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came from that was basically ensuring the county that regardless of where the

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bids came in that we would we'd be able to clear that FAA hurdle you'll

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notice that almost all the bids came in below or more than half of them came in

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below the 1.3 million so anyways that bought some just made the paperwork easier

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on the FAA side but so back to that original cost estimate was 940,000

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within that 940, there was $85,000 a contingency.

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So our actual construction cost was estimated at $8.55.

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The low bid came in at $7.18.

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So, and I guess I wanted to paint with that color

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for just a minute because if you just look

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at the where the low bid is at

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and then where the rest of the field lies,

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it's pretty stark contrast.

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But when you break it down and you look back

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to numbers of coin I've put together

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for a couple of months, numbers that James and John have worked through for quite some

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time, and we start painting that light in, you know, yeah, they're below the low bid,

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but they're not that much below the low bid, or they're not that much below our original

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probable cost.

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So as we started breaking down numbers, so you can do it a couple of different ways, you

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know, one thing we always do is we look at the low bid, proportionate to the engineer's

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estimate, and then we look at the little bit proportionate to the field.

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Especially comparing number one and number two to each other, H and H is actually quite

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a bit more money on several of the bid items when you compare them to number two, which

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is, again, it's not uncommon, every contractor kind of slices a pie a little differently.

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The one that the outlier falls on the fence, so items 1-9, 10, and 11.

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And then we have an 11-8 and 11-B. Those are alternate, so we bid it two different ways.

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One with PVC coated wire to be buried in the ground, and then one was just galvanized.

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Again, for the, we're just hedging our bets.

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If the PVC wire came in above our cost, we were going to look and see if it was enough

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cheaper to justify just using the galvanized, but where the bits fell, that became a non-issue.

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But if you total those three bid items, 1-9-10-11, those are $52 when you combine them.

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In our cost estimate that we've been working off of, they were just a single line item,

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and we'd estimated them at $40.

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So even on that one line, even though there's

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so much less than the rest of the field,

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they're still higher than where our original cost

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estimate had put those.

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HMH, so this is the same contractor that we had bid.

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They were the little bit on the water project

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for the industrial park.

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At that time, I was not comfortable giving the recommendation

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for a culinary water project.

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They had just come off of a sprinkler line project, the meter project that didn't go great.

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Since that time, we did a...

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Board them a culinary water project. They're just wrapping that up right now. We've had really good luck with them on that job in particular. They've kind of used that as their redemption project, if you will. And HMH is, they're just notoriously cheap for dirt work. So this project, because you're combining fencing with the six foot deep trench, I think there's kind of a, you know, there's a, there's a level of difficulty that most fence guys alone

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aren't used to and then from from the dirt work side you know a guy that's

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digging a trench doesn't really want to have to deal with all the fence and all

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that stuff so it's kind of you're kind of blending two aspects where where you've

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got two main disciplines of contractors that you're trying to make a

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mirror face which Cody you know he's figured out a way to do that and at a cost

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effective method so I guess with all of that that I do feel very comfortable to

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day recommending that we award at HMA just a little bit and move into the contracting

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process with the FAA. I guess with that maybe I'll toss it back to you, commissioners

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for questions. Question I have since they are on the cost of materials quite a bit more.

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What's the probability of them coming back and saying hey, it's a federal contract so

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zero and we've already we've already had that we've already had the

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conversation we can't uh think it's yeah say we forgot something yeah they can't

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be like well actually we didn't realize there was gonna be rock you know we

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bit it as if it was all sand like they we've already had that conversation said

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yeah so it's got a where and again where it's all federal contracting like this

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the specs are basically not negotiable. And if they come to us and say sorry we didn't understand

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this spec, our materials four times as much. Right now the options are, K will pull your bid bond

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and move on to number two, or you accept it end of story we move forward. That's what it is.

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That's that that's been my one concern. Yeah, and and Koi's had that conversation with with the owner Cody and I guess you can summarize that for us quite. Yeah, just doing the check of Hey,

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compared to the field, the little lower, I mean, just making sure you're good with everything didn't have me. I'll miss one thing or another. He said, no, we're good at this prices. When do we start? So he did, they were all good there.

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So he understands the stakes and he's acceptable to them, so agreeable.

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Once we award this, when do they start?

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So we'll do the contracting this fall.

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We just got an email response this morning that they won't let us start anything until next May.

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So we've got the prairie dogs, and then there's a flowering period or something for a migratory bird.

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So...

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Nice day for you around.

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Yeah.

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You're talking about the bees.

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So are you supposed to be on the...

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At any rate, may first this one, they'll give us the green light.

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We have been given permission for the contractor to order materials

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so that they're gonna get this year's pricing rather than next year's, so they'll get that

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order it and paid for and we'll have the contract in place but as far as breaking ground may first

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will be the date there.

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I'll give you a fee but that's what it is.

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FAA who put those regulations in there.

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Yeah, it's their wildlife fish and wildlife services.

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So they're the ones that are having the hard

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burned open migratory birds. We were trying to get in this fall to at least do the clearing and

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grubbing and get it opened up because we're fighting two different timelines. So you've got the

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migratory, migratory bird timelines when we can work and when we can't. And then we've got the

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prairie dogs. Prairie dogs in the spring we can go to work as soon as they wake up and they're active

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which you know if we get a good warm spring that could be April 1st, it could be March 15th.

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Last year it was February, we had 80 degrees, so we're hoping to do the cleaning and

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grabbing now.

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So as soon as the product dogs were active, we could go to work.

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That's where the Fish and Wildlife Services came back and said their opinion and I mean

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it was the gal that's in charge of this project.

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And then I think her supervisor was supposed to, that came back and said that they would just

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feel better, not getting the clearing and grabbing done now, and then setting up a start

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date of May 1st next year. That kind of, that actually helps the contractor a little

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bit because now instead of saying, soon as the prayer dogs wake up, you can go to work.

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I mean, now he's got a date in mind, and we all know that's the date of our shooting for,

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so it kind of simplifies things on that end.

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but these are the same two that cost this project.

461
00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:41,510
So what if happens if we have a late spring and there's still eight inches of snow sitting

462
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:42,890
on the ground in May 1st?

463
00:35:43,070 --> 00:35:46,270
We'll all smile and we tell the contractor he needs to wait another month.

464
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:47,990
I would love it.

465
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:52,870
But yeah, realistically so if it's cold, prior dogs aren't active, we'll still have to wait.

466
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:56,830
But we'll be past the migratory bird deadline at that point.

467
00:35:56,830 --> 00:36:05,470
So, yeah, for the prey dogs, just waiting for the prey dogs, it may be anywhere from

468
00:36:05,470 --> 00:36:11,750
March to May God, I've got to have open ground, there's snow still there, there's still

469
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:12,170
sleep there.

470
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:12,550
Right.

471
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:16,670
So, if they all get the plague and die, are we still going to build the past?

472
00:36:17,590 --> 00:36:19,610
Not sure, guys, it's a decision I guess.

473
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:21,210
I don't know.

474
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:39,540
So we need a motion to accept the bids and then award to HMH pending the FAA contracting

475
00:36:39,540 --> 00:36:45,640
and process, and then the century that will get us through their contracting period that

476
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,680
needs to happen over the end of their fiscal year, it will obligate the money at the higher

477
00:36:51,620 --> 00:36:55,000
cost share rate again that was kind of why we're trying to get it done this

478
00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:02,760
year after if we cross over into the October so into the next fiscal year

479
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,840
then your cost share rate goes the county portion actually goes up and so

480
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,460
that's why we're trying to get it all done on this fiscal year bids came in

481
00:37:12,460 --> 00:37:17,260
favorable so everything's still in how we plan and how we go right now this is

482
00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:21,720
It's probably that it's not costing the county any money, so we can't have a go up in it.

483
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,480
Exactly, that's what we're at.

484
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:35,260
So, I'll make a motion to accept the bids and accept the bid of HMH, excavation, a little

485
00:37:35,260 --> 00:37:41,700
bit of 718,000, 305, 306 I think.

486
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:47,980
I'll also make a motion that you get more ink and print this bigger.

487
00:37:48,820 --> 00:37:53,060
We'll bring, we can get bigger, whatever, whatever that last number.

488
00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:54,080
Yeah, what is the number?

489
00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:57,380
So it's 7, 18, 306.

490
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,340
306.

491
00:37:59,400 --> 00:37:59,840
Okay.

492
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,640
Oh my God, Monkson.

493
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:07,020
I'll second the motion that we approve of.

494
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:07,320
Yeah.

495
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,880
Most of the second.

496
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,580
All in favor?

497
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:10,740
Aye.

498
00:38:11,060 --> 00:38:11,240
Aye.

499
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,080
Thank you, gentlemen.

500
00:38:13,340 --> 00:38:13,720
Thank you.

501
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:14,580
Appreciate it.

502
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,560
We'll let the FAA know.

503
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,600
And then if there's any other documents that they need from your side to close,

504
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:27,360
it out we'll let you know too so we'll send you an NOA notice of award to get the

505
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,540
contraction stuff started with our contractor and then we'll get like

506
00:38:32,540 --> 00:38:38,140
explained we'll do a just like a stock pile so he'll buy all the materials he'll

507
00:38:38,140 --> 00:38:43,940
have to have them on site so we'll probably look for a spot in the fence

508
00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:48,100
area where he can deliver the materials and store them over the winter and then

509
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,160
And as soon as they're in our possession,

510
00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:51,300
then we'll pay him for him.

511
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,400
I'll be kind of next steps over the next few months.

512
00:38:55,540 --> 00:38:56,700
I just make the comment.

513
00:38:56,900 --> 00:39:00,080
It's interesting that this is a county property,

514
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:06,680
county, therefore, yet the FAA dictates to us

515
00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:08,900
what we can and can't be there.

516
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,100
Just another sign of federal outreach.

517
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:18,400
We do get federal funds with a lot of red tape,

518
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:24,300
a lot of red tape come with those federal funds and tremendous amount of stuff.

519
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,560
Okay, thanks.

520
00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:28,420
Appreciate it.

521
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,300
Thank you guys.

522
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,240
Appreciate it, yeah.

523
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,720
Go

524
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,060
somewhere else.

525
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:39,420
Yeah, head to Mary's Bell.

526
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,400
When's there?

527
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:47,320
Because conservation.

528
00:39:48,460 --> 00:39:49,120
Any of that already?

529
00:39:50,820 --> 00:39:52,760
That's the last area.

530
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:54,120
Thank you.

531
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:12,080
I thought my whole week was clear.

532
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,220
Okay, thanks.

533
00:40:16,660 --> 00:40:17,700
Appreciate it.

534
00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:19,160
Thank you.

535
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:26,070
You taught the Department of Vagant Food, Grant, and Greenmond.

536
00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:27,410
Tap

537
00:40:35,090 --> 00:40:35,650
to hear

538
00:40:40,830 --> 00:40:42,170
me a talk about it.

539
00:40:42,990 --> 00:40:43,670
Talk about it.

540
00:40:44,350 --> 00:40:50,690
This is an agreement that we have with the Utah Department of Vagant Food, U-D-A-F,

541
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:53,250
that we have signed for a number of years.

542
00:40:56,660 --> 00:41:03,320
It has to do with our predator control, which benefits not only livestock and benefits wildlife here as well.

543
00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:15,720
Typically, we've used that money's been used for aerial use, so we'll pay $4800, but

544
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,960
most of that will come back to us, and that's

545
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,440
our cost reimbursement.

546
00:41:25,580 --> 00:41:32,940
So they'll send half of that back to us, so it really only costs us $2400, but the agreement

547
00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:38,160
It's said in place we've been in this agreement for a long time.

548
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,160
It changes a little bit, but not a whole lot.

549
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,960
It's definitely a benefit to the county producers, actually, the way they have it now.

550
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:59,640
Producers are putting in, I speak out for myself, we get grants and kind of follow the same

551
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:06,420
thing that helps with the area as well and we're paying into it also.

552
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,880
This is just benefits county in a lot of ways so

553
00:42:14,110 --> 00:42:16,730
I'll make a motion that we

554
00:42:16,730 --> 00:42:23,490
approve the UDAF Predator grant agreement.

555
00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:25,850
I'll second it.

556
00:42:26,330 --> 00:42:26,930
Second.

557
00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:27,930
All in favor?

558
00:42:28,650 --> 00:42:28,910
All right.

559
00:42:29,890 --> 00:42:30,970
Question passes.

560
00:42:31,370 --> 00:42:31,470
You know.

561
00:42:35,710 --> 00:42:39,750
R6, MOU, Senior Citizen Nutrition Program Fund.

562
00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:45,000
Brock, is it?

563
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:53,220
It's not his.

564
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,740
Well, how is it?

565
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:59,900
Well, yeah, it was.

566
00:43:00,340 --> 00:43:00,700
It was.

567
00:43:01,140 --> 00:43:01,400
It was?

568
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:01,960
Yeah.

569
00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:23,700
District of this letter, Dear Wayne County,

570
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:31,340
The R6 Regional Council is pleased to announce the contract amount of 16,424 to Wayne County

571
00:43:31,340 --> 00:43:33,140
for the Senior Nutrition Program.

572
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:40,380
The grant period of performance will extend from July 1st, 2026 through June 30th, 2027.

573
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,140
Fund subcontracted are determined based on the number of meals served in your county.

574
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,840
You may receive additional funding through donations depending on funds collected.

575
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:57,100
Seniors that are allocations of funds are included in the total of contract funds.

576
00:43:57,340 --> 00:44:03,680
Transportation dollars in the amount of $1,000 are included in the Wayne County Nutrition

577
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,740
allocation to provide transportation and access to the seniors in the county.

578
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:21,520
Sharon Bullard is our assigned program manager and we send this back to her by August 25th.

579
00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:30,360
This is one of the reasons that we are very involved with our six regional council.

580
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,740
They take care of a lot of these kind of things for senior nutrition being one of them.

581
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,080
It's a good thing.

582
00:44:41,580 --> 00:44:45,960
You're not only delivering a mail but you're actually checking on your checkers.

583
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:55,840
It's a good program, it's a really good program, so I have a motion, I'll make a motion and

584
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,640
improve the senior center nutrition.

585
00:45:01,390 --> 00:45:19,230
I guess it's, let me look at the right one, MOU. Yeah, I'll make the motion if we, uh, prove the MOU with senior nutrition program through R6. I will second that motion to the second law in favor.

586
00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:24,570
I put

587
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:40,320
her up support of the dump road canal company to water infrastructure improvements.

588
00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:59,460
I was approached by Richard Jensen, who was president of the dump road canal company,

589
00:45:59,460 --> 00:46:06,400
which is down in Torrey. They have gone through and got grants in the past to pipe some of that

590
00:46:07,860 --> 00:46:13,720
down through there through Torrey to get the better use of the water. This is just a

591
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:21,100
letter of support that we continue to help them. They're applying for another grant that will help

592
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:26,920
finish that project and I guess tidy it up a little bit and this is a letter that we will support

593
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:33,820
their efforts in our conversation and being able to deliver the water to the ag producers

594
00:46:33,820 --> 00:46:34,640
that are down there.

595
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,320
So I'll make a motion that we approve this letter of support.

596
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,140
I'll second the second on paper.

597
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:46,700
I

598
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:47,200
I

599
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:47,440
I

600
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:47,920
I

601
00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:53,440
I

602
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:53,700
I

603
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:53,780
I

604
00:46:53,780 --> 00:46:54,060
I

605
00:46:54,060 --> 00:46:54,860
I

606
00:46:54,860 --> 00:46:56,480
I

607
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,000
I

608
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,040
I

609
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,360
and the board of directors for the letter.

610
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,940
So is he more from the audition without the recreation?

611
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,340
Hopefully, I'm hoping the site visit for the project

612
00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:24,940
funded by the legislature.

613
00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:31,680
On September 20, 2020, the second,

614
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,560
22, 7, 9, 30, 11, 30, 8, and about 30 people to attend.

615
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:57,080
2027? It should be 2026, so it was 26. 26, it's just September. Where is that?

616
00:48:00,380 --> 00:48:00,940
This

617
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:10,800
is the Outdoor Reck Committee that I also serve on there with them.

618
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:17,000
But instead of doing Zoom meetings, they requested that maybe we come and see some of the areas.

619
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:26,600
The Outdoor Reck mitigation fund is going to be representing and providing for through the grants that have been, let's do the 31st.

620
00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:34,380
So they talked about it, Katie might have got a hold on me and she kind of decided, hey let's go see.

621
00:48:35,420 --> 00:48:37,300
Let's get our board out there and let's come see.

622
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:41,140
There's going to be five or six members of that board who will come.

623
00:48:41,780 --> 00:48:48,020
And it sounds like it's grown to include some of the legislative people too who have health provided that grant.

624
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,180
Money directions.

625
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,560
I feel that I'll make the motion that we wave the fee for the community center for.

626
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,880
And no one the amount that they help us with, through the grants, I second that.

627
00:49:04,180 --> 00:49:04,620
Thank you.

628
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,660
Motion in a second.

629
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,440
Paul Favour?

630
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:08,860
Aye, aye.

631
00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:20,770
Pouchers.

632
00:49:21,350 --> 00:49:24,390
Do you want to take a break?

633
00:49:24,810 --> 00:49:25,610
Let's take a break.

634
00:49:25,810 --> 00:49:28,990
And run to a viewing for a minute before you do the vouchers?

635
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:29,690
Let's do this.

636
00:49:29,690 --> 00:49:30,330
Let's do this please.

637
00:49:30,330 --> 00:49:36,090
I would make motion in a break to run down to Darwin's meeting.

638
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:38,550
He's done a lot of service for the county.

639
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:42,730
We're going to take a short break.