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Good evening. It is Tuesday, September
1st, 2026. It is 6:30. This is the

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regularly scheduled select board
meeting. Uh all of the select board

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members are present along with our town
manager unless we have a quorum. Going

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to call this meeting to order and
encourage anyone um to read the select

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board bylaws and if we have public
session, uh we'll go according to the

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rules that are in the bylaws. Um, and
anyone that's going to be recognized to

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speak will then get their get their turn
and we'll recap if we need to go through

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those rules. Uh, so the first thing we
need to do is the pledge of allegiance

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and the pledge the flag is at the back.

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» To the flag of the United States of
America to the republic for it stands

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one nation under God indivisible with
liberty and justice for all.

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Is there any additional business not
included on today's agenda that the

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board would like us to consider?
>> Says no. Steve says no.

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» No, but I did say no.
>> Talk I hear a little bit more about the

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feasibility state of the power grid
thing. So I back up

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uh Steve's suggestion that we put that
on the agenda in October. That was very

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interesting.
>> Okay. So not for today. Keep track of

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that please.
>> Not drop it.

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» All right. Uh any conflicts of interest
with today's agenda?

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» Not here.
>> So I am going to move the items on the

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agenda around a little bit and we are
going to take the executive session

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first. Uh so I move to enter into
executive session for personnel matters

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related to 1 MRSA section 4056A.
Second.

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» Any discussion?
Is it in favor?

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» Motion to exit executive session.
Second. Any discussion? Those in favor.

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» Action.
>> Shannon. Action.

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So, I will be assuming the role of town
clerk and tomorrow I'll start

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advertising for the town clerk position,
pending any comments or concerns from

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the select board. Do you have any
objections?

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» Well, ma'am, sounds good to me.
>> All right. And I will be appointing Lyn

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Trap, our tax collector and treasurer,
as my deputy clerk.

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» Thank you.
>> Take yourself out to another.

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All right, moving on. Next item on the
agenda is the meeting minutes um

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for August 18th. Uh these were all
distributed. They're also in your

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packet. Uh so can somebody move us to
approve the minutes for August 18th?

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» Move to approve the minutes. Second.
>> All right. Discussion. Any discussion on

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the minutes? favorite public comment
note ever.

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Bud Stevenson gave a brief update on the
current status of Angusagan Lake. As of

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today, the lake is blue.
[laughter]

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» Any issues, any concerns with the uh
with the minutes? I didn't see anything

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that was concerning to me, but yeah. And
anybody else had sharp eyes and spotted

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any typos or anything? All right.
Hearing no comments. Uh those in favor?

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5 Z. Motion passes. Next on the agenda,
uh payroll number 10. So move payroll

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number 10, please.
>> Move to approve payroll number 10 in the

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amount of $12,51722.

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Second.
>> Discussion. Shannon. Anything unusual

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about payroll number 10?
>> Anything unusual about payroll number

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10? Any discussion or questions?
Those in favor?

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Motion passes. Zero.
All right. Moving on to accounts payable

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number 11. Looking for a motion.

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» Move to approve accounts payable number
11. Any none of $6,1246.

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» Second.
>> Shannon, what can you tell us about

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accounts payable number 11? This was a
very small amounts payable. Um I think

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we knocked out most of our accounts for
the roommates for August and then we'll

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be moving into our September for the
next payroll.

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So very small.

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Uh any discussion?

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Those in favor?
Is there okay I just lost my place.

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Okay, we are on to accepting donations
for Lab Rec Center programs.

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Anybody like to move that?
Move to accept donations in the amount

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of $1,686.80
to supplement the existing appropriation

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for Lad Recreation Center Province.
>> Second.

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» Any discussion? Shannon, anything
unusual? This is primarily just a

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reimbursement for the state for their
child care um supplements.

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» Any discussion?
Those in favor?

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Motion cares. 5 Z.
Moving along to old business. Um

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so I think the protocol and the way we
need to do this is uh we

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make the motion that's suggested and
then we can have discussion.

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Um,

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so I can move that the board hold a
public hearing on September 15th, 2026

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at 6:30 p.m. at the Lad Recreation
Center, 23 Got Road on the merits of an

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ordinance amending the code of the town
of Wayne scheduled to be voted on by

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secret ballot on November 3rd, 2026. I
further move that the town clerk shall

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post notice of this public hearing
pursuant to the requirements in 30A MRS

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uh section 2528
subsection 5.

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» Second

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» discussion. Henry, you look like you've
got something.

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» No, I I like the motion. I I I don't
believe your notice form is correct, but

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that's a separate that's a separate
issue. I mean, the mo the the motion

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directing that notice be posted. That's
a good motion,

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» right?
>> I'm for it.

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» And this is the memo.
>> The memo that I left,

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» but the there
>> on my table,

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» but the it's when you get down to the
form that was in the packet,

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» uh it was either in the packet or
attached to the email, one one of the

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two. And it
>> Yeah. and and it's you know I'm

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suggesting it just needs some changes to
comport with the statute

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» and uh you caught something that needed
to be caught.

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» No, that's fine. Sorry.
>> To to to to make to make clear one of

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the one of the big deal, you know, well,
it's not that matter. It's just that the

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statute said you have to post a copy of
the warrant article. And so that was

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that was one point, right? The other
thing related to the return. What a

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return is is that's a certification by a
public official that an action has been

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taken. And that's what is evidenced when
somebody comes in and says, "Was this

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posted?" So, if we're certifying a
return saying that we posted something

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before we posted it, we're basically
creating a false record.

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» And uh what and it's weird to have the
the statute says the return is by the

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municipal officials, but we're not going
to post it. what MMA suggests and it's

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not in their in their papers but that
when I when you can see I sent them some

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questions and they answered they suggest
when we when we do the notice if you

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don't want something hanging on a board
with signature blanks that are unsigned

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put the return on a separate page and
and make first have a return from

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whoever post it the the clerk or whoever
and under that would be the return by

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the municipal officers and we can all
come in when it's handy and sign it

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after it's posted and That's it.
>> So, I think one of your suggestions was

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put put this on a separate page. Put the
return on a separate page.

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» The return
on the separate

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» Yeah. On a separate page. Yes, ma'am. Or
and you don't have to. It's just people

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might not like posting something on a
Bolton board that has these signature

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blanks that are not filled in. And so,
uh,

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» so Sharon, what
walk us through what are you, what are

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you going to do? You're going to
separate the public hearing from the

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return for the suggestion.
>> And then there was another suggestion

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Henry made. Um, my glasses,
>> the article.

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» Yeah. Language.
>> Yeah. And and I kind of wrote something

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that I would think might work. And uh
and then the other thing was on the

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return portion. If you look at the uh if
you look at the response of the MMA

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legal to the questions I asked them,
they suggested that maybe on the return

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you want to have two sections. One where
the municipal officer who posted does

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the return and then or the person who
posted does return and then we'll come

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in and sign after that.
>> Okay.

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what I had circled and I mentioned
before we started the meeting that I had

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circled something. I think it's one
sentence but somehow it got cut in half

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because your last above above this
paragraph down here you say attaching

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the warrant you wrote if a written
certification of the final approved

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ordinance language signed by a majority
of the select board has not delivered to

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the clerk and then there's a period a
new sentence starts

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» okay
>> that says then after that the next

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sentence says that needs to take place
before the clerk can attest to any

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copies of the ordinance so
>> yeah I I think I was quoting from the

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statute and the statute says list a
return will be done and delivered to the

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clerk and then I'm saying
>> you got to do that after you post it,

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» right? It it's just a sequencing thing
we're talking about here, right? Okay.

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» Yeah.
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So, are we all clear in an agreement
that we can we can um vote on this

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motion? Shannon will
separate this out so that we're not

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putting the blank things out, right? um
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is going through the process of um

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» just wasn't the ordinance already here.
>> Didn't we actually vote on the

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» We've already made the motion. We have
um well last time we voted to approve

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doing this

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is the select board. Now we are I guess
we are now approving to post

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that the board is holding public.
>> Okay, we've already done this, right?

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» The the seems to be going in circles.
>> Okay, the paper here's what and Shannon,

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if if you're not with me or you think
I'm off on this, tell me, okay, please.

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The paper with no attestation with no
with no return gets posted. Okay. What

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the paper says is sort of what I've
suggested that there's that the actual

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warrant article is written there. It's a
copy of the warrant article.

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» And then under that there should be a
note that says attached to this notice

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is an attested copy of the ordinance
>> referenced ordinance

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» and and an attested copy of the
ordinance should be posted on the

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bulletin board and on the website with
this paper. Right. And then after that's

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done,
uh, the person who did that comes back

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to the clerk and signs a statement
saying, "I've done this." And that's the

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return. And that's the proof that it was
done. And under this particular thing,

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it says the municipal officers have to
return also. So, we should need to all

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just stop by the office sometime and and
sign our names also for the return.

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» So, what Hazel was asking though is when
you said, "Wait, didn't we already do

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this?" know what we did last time was we
approved the warrant the secret ballot

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referend referendum election on November
3rd with the following questions blah

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blah blah so we approved the warrant now
we're saying move that the board hold a

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public meeting and further move that the
town shall post notice of this so we

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didn't we didn't move all the
specifications then

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I think there was some rewriting that
had to be done

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» after the meeting that's why we couldn't
approve everything

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» so we have the process cla knows
process. We're all in agreement,

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» right?
>> Is there any other discussion?

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» Oh, yeah. Well, not for me any
can like

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» document this process so we remember it
for next.

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» Absolutely. Yeah. Haven't been going
through it. Save this memo.

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» Yes.

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» This this is
good. Yeah. All right. We ready to vote?

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Those in favor? motion is 5.

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So next
is a new business.

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Um
so Shannon put in our packet and we did

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a little some updating in the packet. We
put the um

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items that we've previously identified
as needing board action so that we can

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start serving these up when we have uh
select board meetings that don't have a

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lot of stuff on the agenda. We can start
moving some of these things through. So

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today we are actually taking a couple of
these items off here um that we're going

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to talk about next. And um the question
for the select board tonight is are

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there any of these that we would like to
prioritize

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um in terms of things that we think are
important to to bring

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to the board or um for action. Henry,
>> I don't have anything on prioritizing

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what's on here, but I sent a a email out
a few meetings ago asking, do we want to

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add
uh addressing the uh lad special fund?

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Y'all remember that? That's the money
that's in the bank under the trust

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account. The the reason I keep I asked
that is Terresa Kersner has sent me two

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or three emails asking me what the next
steps are. And to be to tell you the

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truth, I've just kind of ghosted her on
it. Uh and so uh you know, if if if

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that's something uh we think we should
deal with, then maybe we want to add it

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to the list and and and figure out what
needs to be done. And that is number

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one, getting the money out of the bank
to repay. I think we need to repay the

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town for the funds that were spent out
of the general fund without, you know,

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saying anything about it, without
approval.

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» Uh, and then we need to decide uh if we
want to have this program and if we do,

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how do we how do we do it?

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Well, if if you recall, we kind of
suspended it. We said until this gets

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straightened out, the program is dead.
and and uh we voted on that last last

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year and um
uh and like I said, Teresa has an

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interest in uh in knowing when are we
going to do the next steps.

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» So Shannon, is this something that the
treasurer has on the radar and would

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take first pass it? So, um, with the
special fund, I think what was left,

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what where we left off at was
determining through probate court. Um,

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and I I think there was some discussion
as far as reaching out, I don't know if

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we had any further discussion after
that. What what what has to happen is

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since this this um this money was put in
a trust fund, okay? Uh to to take it out

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of the trust fund, uh we have to go
through a process and and and the the

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first part is easy unless somebody says
no. Uh, I think we have to come up with

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a plan and an explanation. And since
it's under $50,000, we send something to

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the Secretary of State. I think it's the
Secretary of State. No, the attorney

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general's office. To the attorney
general. Uh, and they uh they can

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object. But if they don't say anything
within a certain time, then we just go

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do what we what we had said. Uh, if if
that gets nixed, then you may have to go

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to the probate court to get that money
out. I you know uh there's a there's a

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process to do that. I don't know what it
is. Uh we probably need to uh that's I

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would guess that's a Phil issue. Now if
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Lynn wants to take a look at the process
and give it a try, that's I mean that's

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okay. But but we have this money and
we have $25,000

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approximately
uh for the last special fund. And then

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also we have two other trust funds that
we don't know what they are. The the

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Jorski fund and the Ruth Lee fund. Ruth
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I think Jorski has something to do with
the memorial park. I think

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» somebody clarified this for us. I
thought one of the lads came in at one

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point and and explained what everything
was. No, I don't believe that yet.

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» And Evie Black had done some research
down at the library and I think that's

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what they came in to have that
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» So, I can reach back out to them and
then we can kind of come up with a plan.

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If that's what you'd like to do, if the
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» it'd be nice just to
>> tie things off and not have it come up

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again somewhere up a little bit. Give us
new people some history here. Do

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» it. I don't have a clue what you guys

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please explain. Okay. Quickly
>> back uh I think it was maybe like 1984,

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something like that. I think it was
shortly after uh Helen's passing. Okay.

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» Yep.
>> The uh the a fund was set up, the lad

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special fund.
Uh and it was we can't find anywhere

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that it was accepted by the town. There
was no process set up for what it's

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supposed to use, but it was it was uh
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One is Ford's wife. I don't know her
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» Susan.
>> Susan. And the other was by uh an an

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accounting guy who's dead.
>> Peter Burbank.

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» Peter Burbank. [laughter]
>> So Susan

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Hard's life in the dead account. uh they
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uh and at some point in the early 90s,
Mr. Burbank sent a letter that said,

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"Hey, we have to do something about
this." Uh and the town should designate

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what to do with it. Uh and it went to a
town meeting and nothing happened. As as

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a matter of interest, some of the
suggestions that he had were an ice

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skating rink, which I like. Another one
was a steel drum band for the elementary

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school,
>> but but we never did anything. Okay. So,

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at some point in time, $25,000 was put
into a trust account at a bank. Now, the

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trust, it was never there was never a
trust agreement. Okay?

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When this got put in a trust account
under the law, it said unless the trust

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agreement specifies otherwise, and there
is no agreement, all you can withdraw

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from the bank is the interest. You can't
withdraw the principal. Now, that being

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said, we went ahead and kept spending.
Okay. And so, we've spent all this over

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the years. We spent this $25,000 writing
checks,

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» but it's
>> No, no, the whole the whole amount.

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» The whole thing.
>> Yeah. We spent the whole thing writing

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checks, but it's been sitting there in
the bank. So that those checks were paid

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out of our general funds, out of our out
of our unrestricted reserves,

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» right? And now I think we need to
dissolve that, get that 25,000 and put

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it back in the town's bank account since
they have written since they have

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written these checks.
Uh and we also have a um uh we also have

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a trust account over there. So really
it's one trust account but it's for

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three different trusts. The lad special
trust, the Jorski trust and the Ruth Lad

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trust. And and we and we should or not
Ruth Lad a Ruth Lee is no. Yes.

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» Is that right? Okay. And
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we should make an arrangements to kind
of figure out what those were intended

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to help and go to town meeting and ask
town meeting to approve a donation of

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those funds to to whatever those people
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» So where does Teresa come into this?
>> Teresa is helping Gloria. Uh, Goria is

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has the principal interest because it's
a lad special fund and she has been

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contributing money every year like
$1,500, you know, a year.

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» Gloria has. story has and uh this year
uh or actually it was last year uh I I

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said no I I don't think we can take your
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even over and above the 25
in the past they continued spending we

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were two grand in the whole over and
above the 25

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» and and and I was and my position was if
you give us this you're giving us this

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money to help people like general
assistance to help poor people but no

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we're going going to take it and we're
going to pay off this deficit. And so I

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don't want to I don't think the town
should take your money if we're not

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going to use it the way you think it's
going to be used.

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» That's the story as best as I can
remember it today.

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» A little clearer.
>> And and Teresa was helping um Gloria.

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Uh Gloria was confused as to why we
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» [laughter]
>> And uh and so she was just trying to get

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an understanding and Trace was helping
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» Well, with Henry coming in, Shannon
coming in, did the intern help any of

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this? But I mean, there was a lot of
sleuth things saying, "Okay, what's

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going on with the records and the files
and we don't have we can't look back. We

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can't search to find answers to things."
So, a number of things like that came up

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where there accounts and
>> and you can't search. Why? Well, it's

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not digitized and they're in old
boulders that might have been in the old

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town office that never got moved. And so
there's been a lot of digging in boxes

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trying to come up with answers and
eventually

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» it's like, okay, these are the
unanswered questions that I don't think

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are ever going to be answered unless
somebody recalls and do we want to let

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this persist or do we want to try to do
something just to tie it off here?

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» Yeah. So for the purpose of this
conversation which was to look at the

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priority list, I think we need to add
the lad special fund and I'm hearing

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there is maybe not an urgency but it's
it does sound like it's it's a higher

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priority to try to get to resolution
because of the

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interest in it and and the lack of
direction. So this has nothing to do

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with the the
warrants we keep seeing with the

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» no no
>> payments to the lab.

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» No, that's for the lad programs. That's
a totally different thing. That's that

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that's the budget for to operate the lad
center programs that the youth programs

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they have here in the building. still
use the word program before and that

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that made me perk up. I go the programs
what programs were cancelled but it but

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it was just
>> because I conflated those two as well

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when I heard program before but then I
went no no

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» no no no the fund we we we said we're
got we're not doing we're not

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distributing any more monies we're not
doing anything on this lad fund until we

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get it settled because how really it
came to how it came to to notice was

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Stan Davis was going to go have a public
presentation about resources available

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to the needy that included come see the
town about getting money from the last

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special fund and and that that's what
brought the that's what brought the

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whole matter forward.
>> So there are people that need money that

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are not getting it because we're not
addressing this.

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» Well,
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» The what we would want we
>> have a general assistance program. This

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is a this is a the lad special fund is a
separate supplemental

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assistance type fund which if if I would
suggest if that's something that we want

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to do that's something that the town
meeting should decide there should be an

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ordinance setting up this program and
rules on how it works and if the town

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wants to take up a a a supplemental
public assistance type program then

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That's a matter for the town to decide
on. I That would be my suggestion.

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» So, I think let's flag this one as high
and Shannon volunteered to go uh get

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more information from Teresa and Amy and
I think maybe talk with Lynn and between

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between you come up with a plan on what
we need to do and how to move this

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forward to satisfy
>> town clerk to the extent that you might

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need additional help.
>> Yeah. Yeah. ask your clerk to help you

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if you could.
>> Um, so other other things on this list,

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I think we've we've we've uh marked the
where is the purchasing policy? We that

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one's active. I think we can
legitimately call that one a high one.

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Um, the debit credit card policy was
teed up. Um,

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so technically we'll call that one a
high.

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» If you'd like to read page 159
>> along with Yeah. along with not

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necessarily going to take action on it
today based on page 159, but uh the MMA

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legal policy I think we can tick off and
the uh housing update I think we could

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takeick off.
>> Um I don't know if you have other things

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that you think are high. Personally, I
think the town communications policy is

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high. It's a new one that we put on the
list. uh we did have an incident in a

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potential incident where people are
representing the town without it going

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through the proper channel. So I think
we should have some kind of a

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communications policy that um that
speaks to who can represent the town

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because without in the absence of a
policy um that's a little hard to hold

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people accountable. So I would like to
flag that one as high. Uh any

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disagreement on that one?
Um Shannon and I added the LAD rec

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center usage policy and the personnel
policy. I think the LAD rec center usage

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policy was around
um

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since the town is now responsible for
the physical building but the rec center

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administers whatever paperwork and does
rentals

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» if damage occurs. if you know there's a
split responsibility here. So, it seems

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like we should have some kind of policy
that uh Shannon and the uh bad center

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director could probably take some action
on, but um can we flag that as a high

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because it it f it's another of these um
gray areas. We we came up with the

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ordinance. We've sorted out the
finances, but we've still got some gray

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uh on the on on the the usage. Just
seems neat to all the lad center things.

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We just bucket them all and say, "Let's
take care of the lad center things."

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» Yeah. We mark them all as high that
>> holes in the walls.

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» Yeah. That effect essentially just
bucket them and Okay. Lad centers are

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good. Um they're spread all over the
place.

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» Shannon, talk to me about the personnel
policy. Remind me what we were thinking

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and if we had a priority on that one.
>> Um when I spoke with our town attorney

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this past week, he had actually
recommended reviewing our town personnel

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policy. Uh there was one statement,
especially with grievances, that he

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recommended we remove the select board
um from that grievance procedure. Uh

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just makes things messy. Um, so in the
process of complaints at the office,

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they come to the town manager and then
if there's a grievance to the town

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manager, it goes straight to superior
court. So that was a recommendation uh

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from the town attorney. Um, and so just
he said that there's a couple things in

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there that we could take a look at.

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Would that for example have negated if
that had been enforced today would have

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negated an executive session to even
discuss it in this?

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» No, I don't think so. We can still uh
just go over some different things. I

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mean it's just obser observations as we
were going through the personnel policy

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and talking about next steps for
different things then just that and then

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um some other things to address as well
when we start looking at uh benefits and

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vacation and sick time and things like
that too what we offer and what we don't

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offer. Um we had main municipal employee
health trust today come up and say are

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you still offering this? Are you still
offering that? Well, let's take that off

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and just provide a memo saying you're
not providing that. Um, so I mean just

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to kind of review those things, they can
be added back in with a memo, but just

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to keep it updated. I think it was last
uh revised in 2010

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something like that. So just to look at
it again.

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» So do you think that should be a high?
>> I think that would be a good top of the

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list. Uh so we've flagged uh
three or four that are high.

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Are there others that anybody on the
select board would like to flag as high

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or put a medium or
dare we go low? Um any kind of

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sequencing that you want to see on here?
Henry, how do you feel about the farmers

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market ordinance?
Um, I think we could do we should do a

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farmers market ordinance like we did a
uh like we did the aging at home

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ordinance.
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farmers market I don't think is
it it aging at home I thought was more

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important.
>> Uh, I'm I'm I don't get that psyched up

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about the farmers market. I don't think
it it's it's it's that big of a deal.

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But it wouldn't hurt to have a farmers
market ordinance. I wouldn't put it

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ahead of any of your uh
I I I I

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wouldn't knock out important items in
red for farmers market ordinance, but we

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could certainly do one. We could do one
this year. Uh maybe put a medium on it.

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» Yeah. [clears throat]
Um any of the others? I'm I'm looking.

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We've got the IT policy kind of buried
in with the remote and hybrid policy.

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Um, but I think you know there is
growing concern about it and the absence

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of an IT policy is a little risky.
Although Shannon you and some of the

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we're getting help from the state on
some IT stuff.

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» Yes. Uh UB Key I think is something that
they're starting to implement and they

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want to start doing training for cyber
security and so I've been participating

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in some of their online little webinars
and question sessions and I mean it's a

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slowgoing process. uh they're trying to
get UB keys sent out to all the

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municipalities that are participating.
So, we're expecting to receive that in

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and then we have to get our set up and
then we'll go through and administer

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training um mostly for understanding
fishing attempts and spam and things

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like that. Um, but in our IT policy that
is also in there are portions of the IT

415
00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:40,320
realm in our personnel policy that could
be looked at or incorporated and removed

416
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:46,640
out of the personnel policy and put into
an IT policy. I think some of our

417
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:49,600
policies and overlap and it's just a
matter of finding them in different

418
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,480
documents and then putting them in
together in one thing. So can you split

419
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:58,080
that line so that it's two lines so that
the remote and hybrid policy and the IT

420
00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:04,399
policy is separate please? Yeah.
>> Um and then

421
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:08,159
do we want to flag the IT policy as high
but it's

422
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:10,480
going to take a little longer to get
through?

423
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:16,960
» I think so.
>> Anybody see it policy is

424
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:23,879
less than half or want to put anything
else above it

425
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,879
» other than my tree? No.

426
00:34:26,548 --> 00:34:28,568
[laughter]

427
00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:34,000
» Were you injecting humor into the
meeting?

428
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,839
» Yes, ma'am. Am I allowed to?
>> You Yeah, you can inject humor into the

429
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:44,240
meeting.
>> There's the one item that it says it was

430
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:47,119
last updated in 1996 and there's an LD
that was associated with it. I'm

431
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:51,119
assuming that's public law now.
>> Yes. Uh, so I just didn't know if there

432
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,919
was like a time consideration for that
bullet if that would make it a higher

433
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:59,200
priority.
>> Well, we have to we have to do what the

434
00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:05,200
law says anyway. I I you know,
we we can we should fix it up for sure.

435
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,920
» Is that is that an or is that an
ordinance? It's an ordinance, isn't it?

436
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,720
» Yeah.
>> Policy.

437
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:14,960
» Yeah. Uh, first off, I don't know why we
need an ordinance and a policy, but but

438
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:18,960
but yes, our ordinance doesn't comply
with the current statutory requirements,

439
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,960
and we probably ought to fix it.
>> Yeah.

440
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:29,280
» Because it basically meaningless to the
extent it it it conflicts with the

441
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,200
statute. It doesn't mean any It doesn't
mean anything. Might as well make it

442
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:35,760
right.
>> Okay.

443
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:42,480
So, are we making that uh what are we
classifying that as high, medium, low?

444
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:48,400
Because you're right, the law and the LD
drive what we do, but we we have a

445
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:53,880
policy out of there out there that's
significantly out of date.

446
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,880
» Make that one medium.

447
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:02,480
» Um,
there's probably some lowhanging fruit

448
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:07,760
in here, too. use of the town attorney
policy. Didn't we just put that into our

449
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,280
bylaw or into a document last meeting?
>> Well, we had two of those. We have that

450
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:13,200
and we have the one that was on the
agenda for today.

451
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,400
» Yeah. So,
>> that is low hanging.

452
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:24,079
» The MMA legal advice policy is on the
back of this page um for consideration

453
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:29,920
for repeal. Um and that's because in
your bylaws you are already directed who

454
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:34,720
had access to MMA, right? specifying the
chairs and different organizations or

455
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:39,680
groups that can access that. So, just to
repeal that policy when we come to that,

456
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:43,440
if you choose to do so, then I will um
take that down off of the website and

457
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,760
make a note into our minutes include
that.

458
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:50,880
» Can hear this page being printed.
>> Yeah.

459
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:54,480
» Lowanging fruit. Uh Hazel is review and
repeal the speed limit ordinance. First

460
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:59,520
off, that thing that's on our website
isn't an ordinance. Read it. It's a

461
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:04,000
notice of a hearing.
And second, the town's got no authority

462
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:10,320
to set speed limits anyway.
>> So, uh

463
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:16,320
I don't believe we do. Uh and that and
that and that ordinance was one that was

464
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:19,599
enacted by the select board. Not well,
maybe an ordinance was enacted by the

465
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:25,680
select board.
Uh the thing the thing on our the thing

466
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:28,920
on our website, like I said, is is not
an ordinance.

467
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,599
» Um
>> so that one's easy.

468
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,800
» So it's easy. It's a medium, but we
might or medium or low.

469
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,520
» We can we can scratch it off the list.
>> Scratch scratch.

470
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:43,200
» Oh, no. Well, I'm saying it's easy to
get it scratched off. Yes.

471
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,280
» High priority and then we can cross it
off right away.

472
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,320
» Yeah.
>> So good. or

473
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,680
» sounds like the winter traffic on Wilson
Pond might be equally

474
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:57,280
» easy
to dispose of.

475
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,680
» That's not Wilson Pond Road.
>> Wilson Pond.

476
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:03,040
» Yes, it's actually riding on the lake.
Yeah. No driving on the lake.

477
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,880
» No driving on the lake.
>> Yeah.

478
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,000
» Only Wilson Pond though.
>> Yeah. Great.

479
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:11,520
» The other six we can don't have a
problem with it. And I think that's only

480
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,079
at night, isn't it?
>> But I could be wrong.

481
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:21,359
So, we put what are we putting on that
one? Does it go ahead of anything else

482
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:24,079
or do we leave it in the hopper?
>> I'm agreeing that we should just clean

483
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,440
up the easy ones.
>> Yeah. Okay.

484
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,640
» Okay.
>> Make me feel better.

485
00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:31,920
» All right. Small list.
>> I like that. Clean up easy. Low hanging

486
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:38,400
fruit for
>> the road change order so we don't allow

487
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:43,280
people to live on lakes.
Didn't that come up uh last spring

488
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:48,560
around the state? people were putting
houseboats on lakes

489
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:53,359
» and uh so I remember I think it was in
one of these one of these one of these

490
00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:56,640
guides was saying towns are starting to
put this order together because people

491
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,520
can't find places to live so they're
putting house boats or makeshift house

492
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:04,880
boats
>> on lakes and the towns don't have

493
00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:10,720
anything to stop them from doing it
>> just an idea

494
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:13,760
» but we don't own the lakes
>> I don't know how that works

495
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,160
somehow
>> came up with the the whole mooring

496
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:22,240
thing. Uh the things in black, this
group of four black things are assigned

497
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:25,839
to other other folks. So I don't know
that we need to prioritize those because

498
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,560
I think they're already
>> somebody else is looking at

499
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:35,040
» and the group in the miscellaneous.
I'm not sure that we need to keep these

500
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:40,240
um economic development committee and
affordable housing committee. Wouldn't

501
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:44,720
that Steve go through our um
comprehensive plan stuff?

502
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,880
» Yeah, first we're stepping in at least.
Yeah.

503
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,160
» So, I think we could probably scratch
those from from our tracking because now

504
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:54,480
we've got
>> just had u

505
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,079
» I got two phone calls today about
parameulating [laughter]

506
00:39:55,839 --> 00:40:04,400
» and so
uh paramulating the boundaries. Um

507
00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:06,960
» it's Lloyd's baby, right?
There's like a forum event about it

508
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:12,320
coming up.
>> There's Yeah, there's a Wayne presents

509
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:19,920
on it coming up. Um, but in terms of it
being on a no

510
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:25,920
» tracking, do we feel the um
it's it's romance. It's it's not policy.

511
00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:31,599
I don't I don't think that there's any
obligation we have anymore to be doing

512
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:35,520
this. I don't know how important it is.
It's romantic. I mean that in a in a

513
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:39,920
good way. I love Lloyd for wanting to do
this, but I I don't know that it matters

514
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:44,880
at all. So,
>> no, I used I think it mattered back in

515
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:48,960
1800. I'm not sure it matters now.
>> No. And I I went I would love to have

516
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:54,000
more time to do it. I went and it was
enjoyable. But

517
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:58,240
» well, for having taken Lloyd out in the
boat to try to find the boundaries in

518
00:40:55,839 --> 00:41:01,680
the middle of Lake Amber and almost
ruining my boat.

519
00:41:01,518 --> 00:41:05,920
[laughter]
>> I have no no further interest. I told

520
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,599
Lloyd, I'm not going out in that boat
again with you. He wanted, we talked

521
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:14,960
about that last fall and he wanted to go
out like on opening weekend. And I said,

522
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:18,640
Lloyd, I'm not going paramulating
through the woods unless we're wearing

523
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:24,400
bright orange t-shirts and even then I'm
not going out in the woods with you.

524
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:28,880
» Um,
so what action would you like us to take

525
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:34,240
on that one? Are we scratching that from
our from our list of this was a running

526
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,920
list of things that came up at select
board meetings over

527
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,319
various terms and they've just been
hanging on as

528
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:44,720
» no I think it's a good idea
>> come back to it's maybe a good idea but

529
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:49,280
» do this on a regular basis
>> yeah calling things that make sense a

530
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:52,960
year does allow us to focus on the
things that we prioritize so

531
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,400
» we can always assign it to somebody and
say come give us a report how about we

532
00:41:54,640 --> 00:42:00,880
just leave it out there as low not kind
of miscellaneous, but just stick it

533
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:04,359
there as a low priority and nice.
>> I am nice.

534
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:13,440
They're great. Thank you, uh, Shannon. I
don't know. I kind of scratched I think

535
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,880
I think we hit most of those. So, we can
probably update that list with the high,

536
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:23,040
median, and the lows. Unless anybody
wants to take any further conversation

537
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:28,640
in in that item, I think we can move on.
Okay. Next, uh there's a suggested

538
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:34,560
motion. Um would somebody like to make
this motion? It's around a um low

539
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:41,119
hanging fruit.
>> Move move to repeal the March 26, 1993

540
00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:47,280
policy on excess access to legal advice
from MMA. Second.

541
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:57,119
» Okay. So discussion Shannon this is a
piece of housekeeping um on a

542
00:42:53,200 --> 00:43:00,800
um very old policy. Can you uh give us
some talking points please?

543
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:06,000
» Yep. So this is just as you stated a
policy regarding um access to MMA. Uh as

544
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:10,880
we stated previously you already
addressed this in your bylaws and signed

545
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:14,960
off on that and so just guidance from
MMA to repeal it. They said be as

546
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:19,839
specific as you could could. If you had
a date, uh a title, uh include that in

547
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:24,240
your motion, which you just did. And
then, um I can then go ahead and include

548
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:27,800
it in the minutes, and I will take it
down from the website.

549
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:33,599
» Also, while you're in there,
>> we all the ordinances that are in the

550
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,760
new code,
>> but are also still listed on the website

551
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:43,440
as ordinances. Take all those out.
>> Take those out. Okay. Thank you.

552
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,440
» You know, zoning, solar, all that stuff.

553
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:54,240
Any other discussion on this one or
would we

554
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,520
uh like to vote on this questions?
Discussion

555
00:43:54,720 --> 00:44:01,520
» low hanging
>> low hanging fruit. Those in favor

556
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:08,319
» passes 5 zero. Thank you. Shannon, can
you uh do the business?

557
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:15,040
Okay, let's talk about the town
purchasing policy. So to tee this one

558
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:21,920
up, uh Shannon, thank you. You you sent
out uh the policy with some red lines.

559
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:29,119
Henry, thank you. You put some um
editorial comments out there and you did

560
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:34,000
some substantial work on the um
definitions and then you were looking

561
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:39,040
for some input before taking this any
further. Um you inspired me, Henry, on

562
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:44,720
Sunday morning. I there was some things
I think that are also missing from the

563
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:48,480
the purchasing policy um that I would
like to see put in. But you inspired me

564
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:52,880
and I was like, "Huh, I wonder if I put
this through C-Pilot and get a little

565
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:58,079
bit of AI help on how to review and
refine and modify and co-pilot was super

566
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:02,960
helpful. It went out and it compared to
other towns and and I kept, you know,

567
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:07,920
responding to the prompts. So anyway, I
ended up with kind of a document that is

568
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:11,520
also, you know, like vastly different
than this one. So I think the

569
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:18,079
conversation we need to have today is to
come to agreement on how can we get this

570
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:26,960
purchasing policy significantly updated
to be more relevant and um address the

571
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:33,119
gaps and the confusions and in um
Henry's suggestion that got via email

572
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:37,599
was to have a subcommittee. Um
if you could see how much red lining

573
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:42,400
between all of us is on there. I think
that's pretty much a begin from scratch

574
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:47,760
and I don't think it's a good use of
anyone's time to do that in a public

575
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:53,599
meeting with all of us line by wood by
word

576
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:59,520
» and and I don't see the need to be
um stuck

577
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:03,760
with substantially following this
format. For example, you you said you

578
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:09,200
went to AI, they had some other
suggestions. I mean there there's no

579
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:13,920
reason there's no reason to there's no
reason to conform my rewrite to this to

580
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,000
to this outline.
>> Yeah.

581
00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:17,599
» Uh especially if it's going to make it
harder.

582
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,400
» It will.
>> Yeah.

583
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:24,240
» Yeah. And I actually I actually got my
AI co-pilot version that I went through

584
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:28,400
and tweaked it and made it, you know,
like took out some stuff that you have

585
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:32,640
to do in human verification. And then I
did a word document compare and this

586
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:37,200
entire document was red light.
>> No. Yeah. It's like it's almost a you

587
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:41,839
know you you can pinpoint this section
and this section you can you can you can

588
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:50,160
you can see the differences but I think
the bigger the bigger question is um who

589
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:55,359
who feels um
who feels really intrigued by a

590
00:46:52,560 --> 00:47:01,172
purchasing policy and would like to be
on a subcommittee to go through this.

591
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,172
Pick me. Pick me. Pick me. [laughter]

592
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Are there rules about how many people
need to be on sub meetings?

593
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,680
» There has to be two or else we're going
to have to have a public meeting because

594
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:12,079
if there's three of us, if there's three
of us, then it's a quorum. So,

595
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:17,200
» right.
>> So, the other thing I would suggest on

596
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:23,119
this um and I know Henry, you've had a
lot of your your eyes are very different

597
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:28,880
from my eyes and so you see things that
I don't see. And I'm like, oh yeah,

598
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:32,800
Henry's right. I get that. Um, but one
of the things in this policy is it's for

599
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,040
all town departments except for the fire
department.

600
00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:38,640
» Yeah, I don't see why that is.
>> I don't know why that is. The fire

601
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:44,560
department, the fire chief hasn't um
hasn't managed to surface like a

602
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:49,440
document or any any anything that uh
governs fire department. So, one of the

603
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:52,160
things I asked my AI friend was make it
apply to the fire department, too. But

604
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:57,839
if we're going to do that, I think we
should get representation from at least

605
00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:02,400
in that section um to get the somebody
from the fire department on a hospital

606
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:06,720
subcommittee.
Henry,

607
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:16,720
» no, I I I'm happy to work on this. I've
I've done this for 50some years. uh

608
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:22,720
you know 53 years ago I was a a young
lieutenant contracting officer in the

609
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:28,400
Air Force and I've done public contracts
since then

610
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:33,119
and there are some things that I think
uh are are different you know you know

611
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:37,280
for example I put in a definition you
saw of standard uh of standard

612
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,720
commercial items and and that's because
there's a whole category of stuff that

613
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:46,640
competitive bidding really doesn't apply
to like the chairs we're talking about.

614
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:50,960
You know, I've suggested we buy a
specific chair from Amazon. You don't

615
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,240
need to go out and get competitive bids
when you're buying a standard commercial

616
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,319
item that's sold in substantial
quantities to the public because the

617
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:03,359
reasonleness of the price is set by the
market. Uh and so there's some things

618
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:08,079
that need to be there's some things that
need to be changed. The bonding stuff is

619
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:10,800
not correct. the the you know the the
numbers are wrong and

620
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,800
» and there's some stuff that
>> there was a section that you suggested

621
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,839
breaking out and my co-pilot friend
>> yes

622
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:19,839
» broke it out.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So yeah um the other thing

623
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:24,240
that's missing from here is we can
leverage state master agreements state

624
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:27,359
of main master agreements from uh the
office of procurement services and and

625
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,640
so you know I think that should be
referenced because

626
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,160
» yes
>> yeah in lie of competitive bidding

627
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,119
they've already done that we could just
be piggybacking on

628
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,160
» yeah there should be a whole section
contract there would be a whole section

629
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:42,319
on exceptions to comp you know
exceptions to comp exceptions to comp to

630
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:46,640
competitive purchasing but
>> so

631
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:48,960
» but yeah it um I'm happy to work on
that.

632
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,640
» So, Gemini says, "Town purchasing
policies usually apply to municipal fire

633
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:56,480
departments, but exceptions occur when
the fire department operates as an

634
00:49:54,319 --> 00:50:00,960
independent legal entity or handles
specific emergency exemptions

635
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:06,720
and some of those e but it seems like
the emergency exemption would be in

636
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:09,119
emergency situations. Um, not completely
excluding them from the purchasing

637
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,720
policy.
>> I believe there's a whole bunch of weird

638
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:16,240
stuff that applies to main volunteer
fire departments that I don't really

639
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:20,880
know about. I've just have seen it in
passing and said, "Oh, I don't want to

640
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:25,599
look at this." [laughter]
>> Which is why maybe that's why we we call

641
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:30,559
somebody from the fire department.
>> And so speak that has something to do

642
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:34,400
with the with the statement in here that
the fire department is excluded from the

643
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:39,119
purchasing policy.
Oh,

644
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:44,079
» so it it warrants research, but um my my
my co-pilot friend was not shocked and

645
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:48,880
seemed to think that it was pretty
normal to have the fire department

646
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:56,559
included, but to have a specific
subsection because of the uniqueness or

647
00:50:51,920 --> 00:51:00,559
the exceptions that that they they need.
10 years ago, we had we had issues

648
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:07,839
around
the fire department and the bottles and

649
00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:14,319
the the events that they had which were
not run through the select board and uh

650
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:19,359
created quite a
quite a an upsurge

651
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:23,359
of emotion. I don't know where it came
from, but it was uh it was very

652
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:28,160
difficult to deal with just a simple
matter saying, "Hey, just tell us how

653
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:32,559
much money you brought in on the bottles
and where you want to spend it and

654
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:35,760
things like that." So, I don't know. I
don't know why. I don't think we ever

655
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:39,760
figured out what were the what the issue
was, but they backed us down. I remember

656
00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:43,599
that.
>> Oh,

657
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:48,559
interesting. Well, we will probably be
picking your brains. there's some

658
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:56,720
historical um historical stuff that that
we can pick. So, I think what um I'm not

659
00:51:51,440 --> 00:52:03,440
hearing any exception to a sub committee
taking this. Um Henry, I would love to

660
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:10,240
share my co-pilot version and have you
start looking at that. Um, and I think

661
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:15,599
because this is a big elephant to eat,
we might want to bring it back piece at

662
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:19,359
a time like in one meeting maybe we want
to look at the definitions and and

663
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,319
instead of trying to attack it. We'll
see how we how we do, but I think

664
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:26,400
because it's going to be pretty
significant revisions. I think Henry and

665
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:35,200
I and if we can get a rep from the fire
department um uh we can bring it back so

666
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:38,000
you'll all be part of out it. But um it
is there's

667
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:40,400
» there is currently a purchasing policy.
>> Yes.

668
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:45,200
» So this will be a revised purchasing
>> policy. Yeah. Or it could just be it

669
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:49,440
could just be a new policy that
>> supersedes that that replaces the old

670
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:52,480
talking about red lines and I'm thinking
spark clean.

671
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:56,720
» Well, this looks like somebody had a bad
somebody had a bad razor when they were

672
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:59,839
shaving. If you look at this thing,
>> forget [laughter] about red lines.

673
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:03,760
» Oh, you should see what happened. Yes.
this thing maybe to make sure that

674
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:07,440
you're not missing a section that you
forget. But

675
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:14,119
» yeah, thanks Henry for really uh really
inspire inspiring

676
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,119
» on Sunday morning.

677
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,760
» I think this is what my co-pilot friend
did.

678
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,960
» Oh, okay. That's good. Thank you.
>> I'll send it to you electronically.

679
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:27,280
» Okay, great. And you know that was just
like you can keep going on and you just

680
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:30,800
you keep answering a prompt and it comes
up with something else. So this is kind

681
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:36,319
of like you know it's a starting point
but um if uh everyone's in agreement on

682
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:46,200
that I think that will be our process on
how we uh get through revisions to the

683
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:46,200
uh purchasing policy. Well, good to me.

684
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:54,319
» Okay, moving on. The weigh in debit and
credit card policy which is in the

685
00:53:52,400 --> 00:54:03,400
packet
and was submitted for review

686
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,400
and

687
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:13,200
just think about the best way to talk
through this one. Um,

688
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:16,960
Shannon, perhaps you and Tia have the
process that you used or who was

689
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:22,400
involved in this.
>> Yep. So, um, our town treasurer and I

690
00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:26,000
discussed the use of our credit cards.
We currently have credit cards. We don't

691
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:30,480
currently have debit cards. I will be
looking at page 159

692
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:36,160
» before I go any further on debit. Um,
but as far as credit cards, we currently

693
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:41,280
use them for things like Pidium
Internet. We use it for

694
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:47,359
office supplies like paper and things
that we need to get on a day-to-day

695
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:51,440
basis for day-to-day operations. Um, but
when we looked at this, it looked like

696
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:56,880
we hadn't really been following the
policy because there were certain forms

697
00:54:54,240 --> 00:55:00,880
and certain things and that needed to be
put into place before you got your

698
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:04,720
credit card. And when um I showed up, it
was kind of like here, here, sign this,

699
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:10,559
there's your credit card. So, that was
great. Uh, go ahead, make some

700
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:14,480
purchases. Um, but I mean between Lynn,
Lynn really kind of dove into this and

701
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:19,200
we can't really explain any of the color
changes between the fonts or anything.

702
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:23,839
Uh, formatting was definitely a pain.
So, I think that this would probably

703
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:29,119
also be better just starting over uh,
and recreating it. Uh, the whole first

704
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:33,200
three paragraphs were additional. Um,
they were added in there even though

705
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:37,200
they're re Okay, I took them out. they
were repeated, but we've been trying to

706
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:43,920
kind of simplify it. Again, the uh
formatting is challenging. We added in

707
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:51,280
some definitions. Um we updated some of
the uh process and what we really also

708
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:56,480
wanted to identify are what are
acceptable purchases. Uh because certain

709
00:55:54,319 --> 00:56:02,079
things when you start looking at food,
is food necessary purchase for the town?

710
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:08,960
Maybe. It just depends that maybe do
define for events for certain type types

711
00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:15,200
of um just events and things like that.
So um and then just other purchases. So

712
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:21,440
trying to define that uh understanding
the approving authority because um we'd

713
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:27,599
like it to go to the select board to
authorize the uh issuance of a credit

714
00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:32,640
card and then uh to review the overall
policy and understand what the limits

715
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:37,760
are for each department head or town
manager and then um making sure that

716
00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:42,240
that is also aligned with our purchasing
policy too. So, kind of making sure that

717
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,920
those things we found that they were a
little conflicting uh between the

718
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:49,040
purchasing policy and then what you're
able to do on the credit card. So, we

719
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:53,839
want to make sure that those if you have
an emergency purchase and you need to

720
00:56:51,040 --> 00:57:00,319
use a credit card um how you document
emergency purchases um and then how that

721
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:06,319
is submitted and presented to the select
board for their review. Uh so, just I

722
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:12,240
mean just some updates and things. Um,
we I think Lynn added in uh the uh

723
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:17,119
approval limits and then a lost and
stolen card notification and transaction

724
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:22,079
dispute form. Those were in there. I
don't think that we've had any disputes.

725
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:29,280
Uh I think we've had one credit come
back. Uh so that was just an accounting

726
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:32,319
in our accounts payables. And then um
yeah, I think the biggest thing would

727
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:36,400
just be if there's an emergency purchase
and how you would document that in here

728
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:42,079
and what the per uh process is in
accordance with the purchasing policy.

729
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:44,559
» Question. Do you currently have a list
of who has a debit card and who has a

730
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:48,240
credit card?
>> There's only three people. It's the

731
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:51,359
Ladre Center director, the fire
department chief, and myself.

732
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,200
» And are they debit cards or the credit
cards?

733
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:59,200
» Credit cards.
>> Yeah. in in that page 154. It's just in

734
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:03,839
in or what whatever whatever it was
>> MMA believes you you MMA believes debit

735
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,319
cards are nos.
>> Uh now

736
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:10,000
» from a practical [clears throat]
standpoint I don't see the difference

737
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:14,000
but technically they say a debit card is
a withdrawal from your bank account and

738
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:20,160
that can't be done that can only be done
by the treasurer on a warrant on an

739
00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:26,160
approved warrant. So just if if you if
you're interested in uh

740
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:29,119
being copathetic with that opinion on
their part, just scratch out all the

741
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,680
debits. We don't use them anyway.
>> Yeah.

742
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:35,359
» So debit card was included already on
the policy. Yes,

743
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:40,880
» Lynn and I have discussed the debit card
only in the sense of um we've had a

744
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:44,640
couple of instances where we've been
trying to keep up with getting the

745
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:48,799
online statements because for a period
of time online statement or statements

746
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:52,880
were just coming in through the mail and
it was snail mail. And so the town

747
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:56,720
office would get that statement and then
by the time it went through accounts

748
00:58:54,559 --> 00:59:00,880
payables and got approved it would then
get sent back and then they would

749
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:04,480
disconnect your card because it was too
late. And so then when they shut off

750
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:08,640
your card, then it shuts off your
internet. It shuts off uh your phones

751
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:12,559
because that's where all of the
automatic payments are enrolled under.

752
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:17,440
So that way you're getting that approval
every um payroll to or accounts payable.

753
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:22,640
So it kind of turned into a pain. And
then on top of that, you would get um

754
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:27,520
fees tacked on. And so at one point we
kind of had this nightmare of just

755
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:31,280
trying to address the fees because then
we would stay on top because they in

756
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:35,119
order to keep your card you would have
to send them another check. And so then

757
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:38,720
by the time they got the next check they
would have already processed the first

758
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:43,119
check but then they didn't take off the
fees. And so we've worked through a lot

759
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:49,040
of that and we're trying to focus on our
process. Um but we've also talked about

760
00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:55,280
debit cards in that sense where it would
be a little bit nicer. um if there were

761
00:59:51,760 --> 01:00:02,480
some barriers put in place um just being
able to have those automatic

762
00:59:56,799 --> 01:00:06,799
transactions maybe for um Fidium or yeah
consolidated and things like that.

763
01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:13,200
» Well on the on your on your credit cards
you can get on the don't they have uh

764
01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:16,720
like uh login to their website to to
print your bills and you know look at it

765
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:20,720
the same time every month. Is it just
one account that's has three cards on it

766
01:00:18,799 --> 01:00:24,799
or how does that work? And so I'm able
to log in and so now usually uh they

767
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:29,040
will release it around the fifth or
sixth or seventh of the month. And so as

768
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:33,680
long as we get in there and then we're
able to get it by that first warrant or

769
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,960
ideally by the second warrant and then
get it out in the mail. Sometimes if it

770
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:40,079
takes a week to get out in the mail
though, then that's where we have the

771
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:45,520
issues. But we've been trying to make
sure remind ourselves to go back and

772
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:51,520
check that
um invoice the bill every month. I have

773
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:55,839
to make a note
which is fine but

774
01:00:54,160 --> 01:01:01,359
» just for your awareness.
>> So

775
01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:04,960
» it does clearly say
um that they are debit cards are

776
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,240
unlikely to comply with statutory
dispersement approval requirements.

777
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:14,400
» Right.
>> So is there a way for you to fix the

778
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:18,640
operational process
using the credit card or using another

779
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:23,599
way to
pay the credit card checks have to be

780
01:01:20,799 --> 01:01:28,000
mailed to the credit card companies
because the

781
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:31,119
» not you know the credit card you you
talk about fidium and lights going out

782
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:36,799
but
>> the credit card would be

783
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:40,720
as soon as we approve it pay those bills
immediately

784
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:46,480
» prove it on a warrant
can you pay it online

785
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:50,480
» yeah you could have a you could have a
you could have a payable warrant that

786
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:54,960
says so much to the credit card bill and
then the next day you can go online and

787
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:58,000
take and just have it have let them hit
your bank account.

788
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,079
» The treasurer I think can do that once
we've approved the warrant. It's a

789
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,119
dispersement
>> an a withdrawal.

790
01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:07,040
» Yeah. It's the same thing as you do with
your payroll. You know, we don't write

791
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:10,160
checks to the we don't write checks to
our many of our employees. Maybe some,

792
01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:15,040
but I don't know. I would assume most
people are are automatic. So,

793
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:19,280
» we'll look into that then. That's that's
I think it could I think it could come

794
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:22,640
on a once the warrant is signed.
>> You don't need to write and mail a

795
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:26,960
check. I think you could go online and
have it taken out of your bank account

796
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:30,400
or out of the town bank account.
>> Okay, we'll look into that. I know

797
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:36,960
Lynn's been looking into our TRIO
software to see other options that um on

798
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:40,319
doing that like she was able to identify
how we could put a credit back in

799
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:44,559
through the accounts payables process.
And so I think we'll try to figure out

800
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:48,960
the AC withdrawal process through the
accounts payables. It's a different I

801
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:54,400
mean it's within TRIO but payroll is a
different setup than the accounts

802
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:57,920
payables. And so going in is just trying
to figure that out a little bit. So

803
01:02:56,319 --> 01:03:00,799
we've had we're working on our
processes. So

804
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:03,280
» and and what I said may not work with
TRIO. I don't know. But that's

805
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,480
» uh
>> we'll look into it.

806
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,480
» Yeah.

807
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,760
» So what are we going to do with this? We
got to

808
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:16,240
» we can one one point on this though and
you can talk to L about this

809
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,599
most of the companies many of them will
allow you to choose what date of the

810
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:24,000
month you're going to make your payments
theoretically we have I don't know how

811
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:27,680
many accounts we might be using to pay
credit cards if you can get them all

812
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:33,280
aligned where the payment is due on the
same date and you can make that fit the

813
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:38,319
calendar just have it be it'll be the
same maybe the same payment every month

814
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:42,000
rates go up I get it but whatever it's
going to be

815
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:47,680
just have it so that it it can make that
transaction

816
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:51,599
» the utilities fidium and whatever else
credit cards paying those so you're just

817
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:55,520
worried about the float on the credit
card you know what I mean because like

818
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,079
the accounts themselves should be
covered

819
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:02,000
» and you're just paying that credit card
bill because it's just like us as

820
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:05,039
individuals it's the same thing
>> it's a timing constraint

821
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,839
» it's a timing constraint and we have the
delay

822
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:12,559
and then
>> and then the check in the mail but be

823
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:16,720
able to get that done if we
>> so I thinkable

824
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:20,720
» I think the action is
well I I think we should look to remove

825
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:30,000
the debit card from here so it's just a
credit card policy

826
01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:35,359
» and have Shannon and Lynn look into um
possibilities of a improving their

827
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:41,119
timeline in a way that they can not get
in the card shut off

828
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:45,520
Yeah, that shouldn't wouldn't have
>> I don't know that we can do this, but if

829
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:48,880
you would just pay one month in advance,
you'd always be ahead of the game if

830
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:52,079
there was a way to do that. I don't know
how accounting you're going to

831
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:54,640
» You mean for the internet and stuff
>> for the credit card bill if

832
01:04:53,359 --> 01:04:59,520
» Well, you can't pay the credit card bill
in advance, but you can't Well, you you

833
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:02,559
you can pay what's been charged.
>> No, I pay them in advance.

834
01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:05,119
» Okay, but
>> do a credit balance.

835
01:05:03,839 --> 01:05:07,920
» Yeah, you can do a credit balance, but
then what are we going to put on the

836
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:13,280
warrant? what accounting uh right
>> classifications does it go to? I mean I

837
01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:17,359
I don't know that that would be See, we
pay the credit card.

838
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:20,880
» We say one check to the credit card, but
on your warrant you have a whole bunch

839
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:25,200
of different entries, don't we?
>> Yes, we do. So the we break it down for

840
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:29,920
Ladrack Center, which I think is the
most uh

841
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:33,039
» fluid because of the summer camps and
programs and all the different things

842
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:37,680
that they're doing that usually shows up
on some of their credit card statements.

843
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:42,799
Um, and then snacks and food for the
kids. And then for the fire department,

844
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:48,000
it's usually like oil changes and things
that um the fire tech and safety and

845
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:54,160
winds are up. And then through the
office, it's more so like, oh, well, we

846
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:57,920
need two boxes of paper or we need
certain things, but I mean, we can plan

847
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:03,119
for that a little bit more in advance.
Uh, it's more so just storage, I think,

848
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:07,760
for one and then for two. Um I mean I
think we we pretty much try to buy in

849
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:12,319
bulk when we can um for office supplies.
It's yeah more of the flexibility or

850
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:16,720
excuse me the fluidity in uh Ladre
Center. Like I don't expect to see

851
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:21,520
significant transactions from Ladre
Center moving into the school year now

852
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:24,520
as we did over the summer.
>> Okay.

853
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:34,000
All righty. Are we good on this one?
Shannon, you have a direction?

854
01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:37,880
» Yes, we'll go back and um incorporate in
some of the AC withdrawal.

855
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:46,079
» All right, moving on to public comments.
Do we have any public comments? Do we

856
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:51,880
have any public?
>> We have two people online. Uh not seeing

857
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,880
any hands.

858
01:06:52,799 --> 01:07:01,039
» No public comments. Moving on to the
town manager report. So, uh, today and

859
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:06,559
also on the other day, I've been driving
around a few times, uh, checking on the

860
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:10,559
work of Pike Industries. They're out
there. Uh, they've been, they've already

861
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:14,720
replaced the two culverts on Fairbanks
Road. And so, I appreciate the patience

862
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:19,039
with uh, some of our residents as they
closed off the road last week. And then

863
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:22,240
they also replaced two of the driveway
culverts. I went out and took some

864
01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:25,760
pictures of that. It looks fantastic.
Uh, they've been doing a wonderful job

865
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:28,960
on that. And then also today they
completed Hard Scrabble Road. So there's

866
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:33,440
two cross culverts that have been
completed on that as well. Uh now

867
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:38,319
they're up on Greenrew Road doing ditch
work. Uh then they'll be going over to

868
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:42,640
Old Win Road and then to Pond Road, then
Strickland Ferry, then Bessie, then Inis

869
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:49,119
Road for ditching. Uh and that'll take
us until about um the end of September.

870
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:54,240
At the same time, they'll start with the
reclaim um midepptember over on

871
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:57,680
Fairbanks and they'll be reclaiming that
whole road and then going to hard

872
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:00,960
scrabble as well. So, they'll be doing
that right in the middle of September.

873
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:07,520
They'll have some overlap on their ditch
work and their um

874
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:12,079
and their reclaim. Um this last week or
the week before I reached out to one of

875
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:16,719
our local contractors and they went and
had some potholes filled on Berry Road,

876
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:20,319
Kings Highway, Mount Pisco Road and
North Wayne Road. We had some calls

877
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:28,239
about potholes there. So we had those
filled. Uh also recently um we had a

878
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:33,120
sinkhole over at the corner uh of Walton
Road and Lovejoy Pond Road right at the

879
01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:40,000
intersection. And so just today that got
cut out and it was about two feet by two

880
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:45,040
feet um big hole and uh we just had it
filled with gravel. Unfortunately, it

881
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:48,159
might be something that we'll see in
here again. And so I've got to discuss

882
01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:53,279
that with the infrastructure committee
because it looks like there I couldn't

883
01:08:50,719 --> 01:08:56,480
find a culvert, but just to the right of
it, it looks like there used to be a

884
01:08:54,880 --> 01:09:03,600
metal culvert there that might have gone
all the way down to the stream. um

885
01:09:00,799 --> 01:09:09,679
parallel to Lovejoy Pond Road and where
the dam is right there, but I couldn't

886
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:15,440
find the specific exit of that culvert.
And it I think it might have just

887
01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:18,960
failed. And so that dirt and how it
seeped into whatever that is, it might

888
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:23,120
have plugged it up, but at the same
time, I feel like it may end up going

889
01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:26,239
back down into it. So, I'm going to see
um if there's anything else that we need

890
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:31,120
to get done, especially before we go
into winter as far as drainage goes for

891
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:33,839
right there. Um but that's something
I'll be talking with the infrastructure

892
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,239
committee about at the end of the month
when they meet. You have a question,

893
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,679
Henry?
>> Yeah. No.

894
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,199
» Okay.
>> Do you have anything about when I went

895
01:09:39,679 --> 01:09:45,199
out with Mark Bwell, he was pointing out
where beaver dams were causing problems?

896
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:48,560
Are you familiar? So, I'll go back to
him. So,

897
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:55,920
» and a specific reason. for beaver dams.
I'm familiar where there was we did a

898
01:09:50,960 --> 01:10:02,960
beaver cleanout um last fall um or
spring, I'd say. Uh over on Old Win

899
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:06,640
Road, um right before gingerbread
perennials, uh there's that pond right

900
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:10,960
there. There tends to be a beaver that
builds up in that. Last year there was

901
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:13,440
also a beaver buildup down at Tempe
Bridge,

902
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:18,239
» Tempe Bridge. And then there's another
one over um on not Lord Road, but the

903
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,719
other road that goes right next to it. I
think it's that Maxim Road.

904
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,840
» Yep, Maxim.
>> Yep. So, right when you go down right

905
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:28,640
there, there tends to be there's a whole
Beaver Dam building back there, but I

906
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:31,920
haven't seen any significant buildup
around the culbert itself, but I've got

907
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:37,040
to go back down and do an assessment of
that again. I'll check with Mark because

908
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:40,400
there was an article in one of these
guys a month or two ago which was

909
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:46,000
fascinating
>> how towns it it's expensive and you have

910
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:50,239
to do this work every few years and
>> and it's destructive and defensive and

911
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:54,560
there's a guy who started a company and
he's going he's been around the world

912
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:58,400
but it's beaver deceivers
>> and what they

913
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:02,960
» did they did they put in PVC pipes in
the in the ground

914
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:07,760
» they they put in basically They block
off access. They divert the water flow.

915
01:11:05,679 --> 01:11:11,600
So the beaver makes a dam over here
instead of over here. But it said it

916
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:15,920
typically
>> helps the environment because things

917
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:19,280
build up. It doesn't block where you
need it to stay open. And the guy's

918
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:23,679
going around the world making all this
money doing it. He said, "And it's a

919
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:27,199
less expensive solution for towns in
Maine and around the world." I thought

920
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:31,040
it was awesome.
>> It's so cool.

921
01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:34,800
Nice job.
that

922
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:37,920
» beaver deceivers. So, but maybe I I'll
bring it. Is Mark most on top of this,

923
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:42,159
do you think? Or maybe you're more
familiar because he was pointing them

924
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:46,640
out to me and he's these damn beavers.
>> Yeah, they're all over the town of Wayne

925
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:49,760
um tends to be a lot of marsh area
>> taking an awful lot of trees out of my

926
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:54,080
yard. I can't understand them, but now I
like them more.

927
01:11:50,719 --> 01:11:58,320
» Yeah, I we I have a trapper um on my
phone, so if there's a significant issue

928
01:11:56,719 --> 01:12:02,560
um I'll call the trapper to have them
come out and remove. Unfortunately, when

929
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:06,320
there's lodges nearby, it's hard to tell
if you've gotten the whole family of

930
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:10,320
beavers or if you're just taking away
one and then the rest of them are going

931
01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:15,120
to come up and um continue on the the
dam. Um but then I'll usually call

932
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:18,800
someone to come out and unplug
whatever's been built up.

933
01:12:16,719 --> 01:12:22,159
» Why bring it up? It's interesting, but
also from a cost perspective. If we're

934
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:27,679
spending a lot of money every few years
on this stuff and there's potentially a

935
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:32,800
solution that has a 105 year duration
and you pay this much money, it might be

936
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:36,800
worth looking at and we could say we've
got these. I want to go look at these

937
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:41,695
things. But it might be worthwhile.
Beaver deceivers. Hey, it's in here.

938
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:43,440
It's being recommended to
[laughter]

939
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:49,760
» so cool.
>> All right. Uh on the town manager side,

940
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:55,520
um one of the other ordinances that we
had previously discussed was a road

941
01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:59,600
posting um a policy or ordinance, but uh
I actually reached out to Inland

942
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:05,679
Fisheries and Wildlife. They came down
uh was it last week, I believe, to do

943
01:13:01,679 --> 01:13:10,880
some repair on the Andes Lake boat ramp.
And so when they came down, I asked them

944
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:15,280
to remove and or move the signs that
were down there uh to align with the

945
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:22,159
policy that you had in place. And so
they did do that because they currently

946
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:29,280
showed no parking um on the
south side of 133 or I don't know I

947
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:34,480
guess the west side of 133 the Androskan
lake side of 133 from one address to

948
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:38,960
another address but it showed no parking
the whole way around and so it basically

949
01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:43,360
just opens it up according to the policy
that you had in place from I think three

950
01:13:40,719 --> 01:13:47,199
years ago. um just to make sure. He said
that they were just put there as part of

951
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:50,960
their standard DOT practice. They always
put them up. And so he just said, "Okay,

952
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:55,600
yep, we'll move them." So they moved
them. I went down and checked on that.

953
01:13:53,360 --> 01:14:00,560
Uh and I responded back to that resident
who had inquired about it. I also met

954
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:04,400
with Ted Tucci regarding the dam
committee. And so um just to kind of get

955
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:07,440
a little bit more guidance, I got a copy
of that memorandum of understanding. I

956
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:14,159
believe I forwarded it to the select
board for your review. Um, and if he if

957
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:18,480
he would like to proceed with getting
signatures on that, we can absolutely do

958
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:24,320
that. He said for the most part it what
he's looking for is just some support

959
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:28,400
when he goes to the DP and um the
Department of Agriculture, Conservation,

960
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:32,640
and Forestry. They're also the ones um
and he gave me some great background and

961
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:36,800
history of the dam and when it was built
and accepted in 1930 and what the

962
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:41,040
purpose of it was and what the dam
committee really does. and they really

963
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:45,679
only just meet once a year and usually
that once a year meeting is them going

964
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:51,679
out and cleaning out trees and things
that have gathered down right in front

965
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:55,679
of the dam. Um so in the future just or
when we do any kind of appointments and

966
01:14:54,000 --> 01:15:00,960
things on that as well it's just taking
into consideration

967
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:06,159
um any kind of reporting and involvement
with that. the leads, the town of Leeds

968
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:11,040
currently has a reserve account for that
dam and they manage that and in their

969
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:16,719
policy I think anything over 2500 had to
go to the town of Leeds for approval. Um

970
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:22,000
but most of it he says is underneath uh
that limit. So their purchases are

971
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:26,640
usually um just to help with the
cleanup. And so I think a couple years

972
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:32,719
ago looking at the annual report it had
about $25,000 in that account. He said

973
01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:37,840
that it's down to about $19,000 now. So,
more so just anformational meeting and

974
01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:42,480
just a follow up on his presentation on
the the damn committee appointment.

975
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:48,400
» So, the reason we had that conversation
though was we need to put somebody on a

976
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:52,159
committee without a charge and without
any

977
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:58,320
documented
roles and responsibilities. So,

978
01:15:54,880 --> 01:16:03,520
» yeah. So, but I'm just looking to see if
we have other sort of external

979
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:07,760
committers where people It doesn't even
say how often

980
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:13,960
he's going to report back. In fact, it's
not even listed in a

981
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:13,960
» no committ

982
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,320
um

983
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:26,560
actually. And this is a much shorter
list than the list we see when we do all

984
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:34,840
the appointments. Well, we think this
should committee keep an eye on that.

985
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:34,840
Damn. Does it roll up there?

986
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:44,960
We could uh we could pose that question
to the infrastructure committee. I'm

987
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:51,360
just, you know, I don't think it's bad
to have a simple charge that says

988
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:57,840
this is what you're responsible for
doing, especially in the absence of a

989
01:16:53,199 --> 01:17:02,960
policy that says who can um communicate
on behalf of the towel.

990
01:17:00,159 --> 01:17:08,560
Um so I don't I don't particularly want
to just let that one drop without even

991
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:12,239
though they only meet once a year. Mhm.
>> Well, um, but Shannon, maybe you and I

992
01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:17,840
can, since I'm seem to be the one that
has the has the anxiety about this one,

993
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:24,480
maybe you and I can uh
>> bounce some ideas on a simple

994
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,360
» Well, this dam is in is in leads, right?
>> Correct.

995
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:33,280
» Yeah.
>> Okay. And under the thing that and I I

996
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:40,159
confess I didn't read the what uh Ted
sent out uh under the under the document

997
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:43,679
that he asked us to sign or or to think
about signing that we that the town

998
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:48,239
hadn't signed. Does that share
responsibility for the maintenance of

999
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:53,199
the dam among the different towns?
>> There isn't any specific designation as

1000
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:56,320
far as costs go. Um what he had
identified in the memorandum of

1001
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:01,520
understanding is that cost would be
solicited from other organizations. Uh

1002
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:06,560
it didn't specify anything from town
appropriations.

1003
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:11,199
» Um but only Yeah, it didn't it didn't
specify.

1004
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:17,040
» Okay. Does because it's not it's not in
the town. We don't have any budget items

1005
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:20,480
appropriate any funds for it. So I don't
really know what

1006
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:25,120
» Yes, it is.
I don't know what uh

1007
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:27,840
what what our what our business would be
on it.

1008
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:32,480
» It's really in here.
>> It is in here, but we do have a

1009
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:38,560
representative on that listed on the
Dead River Dam maintenance committee and

1010
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:43,120
also on the ALIC committee,
>> but typically they're supposed to also

1011
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:47,120
report um and provide a segment of the
um annual report. For the last two

1012
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:51,520
reports, I don't have one from them. So,
I said I'd be requesting one for

1013
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:55,920
upcoming reports to make sure that you
have an overview of all the finances and

1014
01:18:53,760 --> 01:19:01,040
everything as well and any initiatives
that they've taken on cleanup um or any

1015
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,880
proposals for upcoming projects and
things.

1016
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:05,520
» Did they mention what time of year they
meet?

1017
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,159
» If you can sync it up with when you're
trying to get all your information

1018
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,800
together for the annual report or a
month prior to that, that might be

1019
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,880
helpful.
>> All right, sounds good. I'll double

1020
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:18,239
check with him on that. I think it's
usually in the spring.

1021
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:26,560
Um, okay. Anything else on that? I'll
talk with you, Hazel, more about it.

1022
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:30,880
» Uh, for the comprehensive uh plan, the
CMP feasibility study, uh, I talked with

1023
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:35,280
one of the comprehensive plan committee
members that had drafted that just to

1024
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:40,159
ensure that it hadn't it was drafted in
the form of an email to CMP uh

1025
01:19:38,159 --> 01:19:44,239
requesting a feasibility study. So, I
just confirmed that that was not

1026
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:48,239
actually sent to CMP, but more so just
presented as a consideration and

1027
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:52,880
something that the comprehensive plan
has found. Uh, I would like to discuss

1028
01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:58,560
that with the comprehensive plan
committee um prior to the next meeting

1029
01:19:55,120 --> 01:20:02,080
as far as um if that's something that
they feel that they should do. I think

1030
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:08,080
that that might be more appropriate in
their strategies as an identif uh as

1031
01:20:05,679 --> 01:20:11,679
identifying a vulnerability in the town
if that's something that they feel is a

1032
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:16,800
vulnerability and it aligns with the
other uh categories that they've

1033
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:21,920
discussed in the comprehensive plan such
as um do they want to keep it more

1034
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:25,760
rural? Do they want to develop certain
kinds of aspects of that? I think that

1035
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:31,040
that might be more of a discussion with
the comprehensive plan before you take

1036
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:34,719
any action on that. Um, I'll still look
at putting that on the October agenda

1037
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:37,600
and then maybe we can get some more
direction from the comprehensive plan

1038
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:43,520
committee if that's something they
choose as a whole to move forward with.

1039
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:49,360
Um,
so with the referendum coming up, um,

1040
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:54,640
also the gubernatorial election in
November, we'll start seeing a lot more

1041
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:58,800
election signs. Uh our code enforcement
officer has also been going around and

1042
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:03,600
looking at business signs um because
right now uh we currently have a

1043
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:06,480
permitting process for business signs
through our land use ordinance which I

1044
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:10,560
don't think has really been followed
previously. So she's been going around

1045
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:15,120
and identifying a lot of those more
local business ones. But also with that

1046
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:20,640
and the election signs uh there's
certain rules and requirements uh that

1047
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:25,040
need to be adhered to for those. Uh so
just I'll be putting out some kind of

1048
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:29,440
verbiage regarding um some of the state
statutes pertaining to categorical signs

1049
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:35,760
and political activities to make sure
that they also align with the timelines

1050
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:41,920
for elections coming up and placement as
well. Um and then how to uh reach out to

1051
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:50,320
those individuals if they need to be
moved or um addressed. Uh other than

1052
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:50,320
that I don't have anything else.

1053
01:21:53,920 --> 01:22:00,080
All righty. Thank you. Board member
reports.

1054
01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:04,320
Think I started with you last time.
Don't think I have anything. Okay, I'll

1055
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:07,320
start with you.
Um

1056
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:13,120
Henry,
>> no. Nothing.

1057
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:19,280
» Steve, for me,
>> nothing. I don't think I have anything.

1058
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:26,400
All righty. Uh so with that um that
takes us to adjournment. Um somebody

1059
01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:30,400
like to make a motion to adjourn.
>> Move we

1060
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:35,840
second.
>> Is there in favor?

1061
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:38,320
» Thank you everybody. very well. Uh, no,
Sweden.