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[0:04] And then if you don't mind, Kevin, I'll have you read the consent calendar since I'm driving. Yeah, so
[0:16] I guess if you called the meeting in order, do you want me to begin with that now? Yes, I'm great. Okay. So let's see, request for approval of minutes for the meeting held on June 17th, 2026 at 5 p.m. Item C, request for the approval of check register data June 1st, 2026.
[0:37] to July 31st, 2026, including voided checks, 140426, 140619 140622, 140639 140670, 140671 and 140706.
[1:00] in the amount of $5,769,625 in 97 cents.
[1:10] I can't remember do we, are we taking these one at a time?
[1:15] On a consent calendar, you don't need to.
[1:18] We can take them off.
[1:19] Okay, so I'll keep going.
[1:20] Item D, the credit card purchases for May and June of 2026.
[1:26] Item E, request to ratify the purchase orders.
[1:29] PO 4965 for DENCO Security for Stepping Stone's camera system in the amount of
[1:36] $19,426.96. PO 4966 mag still next to them. For the Prostum Navigator
[1:51] upgrade for the TMS machine in the amount of $66,000 and PO 4967 seat a
[1:59] global for the training and support for one new seat of supervision in the
[2:04] amount of $14,000. Item F, request to approve purchase orders. PO 4968, all of
[2:13] her packaging and equipment company for trays and film rolls in the amount of $51,000, $12
[2:20] dollars and eighty cents. PO 4969 Guru Technologies for Senior Project Manager and Senior API
[2:29] Engineer Architect in the amount of eighty seven thousand eight hundred and sixty four
[2:34] dollars. PO 4970 Monami Comprehensive Software for In-Home Volunteer Program Event Management
[2:44] in the amount of $20,000, an item for under FPO 4971 Insight Direct for Microsoft 365 Business
[2:55] Standard, Microsoft 365 F3, and Microsoft 365 E5 in the amount of $11,340.52. That is all
[3:09] all of the items on the consent calendar.
[3:13] Okay, I will go ahead and make a motion to approve the assistant
[3:15] to consent calendar and look for a second.
[3:18] Second.
[3:18] I'll second that.
[3:21] All in favor?
[3:22] Aye.
[3:23] Aye.
[3:25] Sorry, everyone.
[3:28] Nobody, however, that they'll be right up their own point.
[3:31] Would that be commissioner for our commissioner?
[3:34] I don't know.
[3:34] We went ahead and that's done.
[3:36] We just finished the consent calendar.
[3:38] As you're walking in, Commissioner Bowles has been called the meeting to order.
[3:43] Okay.
[3:44] Thanks, Commissioner, because she's done.
[3:47] Yes.
[3:48] You bet.
[3:49] And I just, we just had a vote on the consent calendar.
[3:52] Okay.
[3:57] So the next item is the clinical report.
[4:00] Do we have a court?
[4:01] You do.
[4:02] Okay.
[4:03] I wonder which person that was.
[4:11] I don't know.
[4:12] Uh, throwers on Harvey's not.
[4:14] Oh my God.
[4:15] He never was Harvey then.
[4:16] See, I have a big, great truck.
[4:18] I think so.
[4:19] OK.
[4:20] Oh, he's down stairs.
[4:22] Yeah, he was out in the parking lot.
[4:24] He hollered up here.
[4:24] We ran out by him on the phone.
[4:26] So we're going there.
[4:28] All right, let's have the clinical report.
[4:31] Please.
[4:32] OK, Jeff.
[4:34] 20.
[4:35] Yeah.
[4:36] That's a good looking one right there.
[4:39] The price that we chose, Jeff, is a good looking one.
[4:42] Really?
[4:45] Welcome everyone, we like to do a report of one of the clinical programs every month or two just to make sure that our board is aware of the services that we provide and this morning we want to highlight one of our programs which is our women and children's residential facility called Tranquility Home.
[5:08] So, this morning we have Chelsea Hadley, who is a clinical supervisor and Megan Trujillo,
[5:16] who is the supervisor over a couple of our residentials here to present on Tranquility
[5:24] Home.
[5:24] So, we will turn the time over to you to have you come up front so that you're on camera
[5:29] and speak up so everybody can hear you online.
[5:32] And that's the camera, right?
[5:34] Okay, this one back here.
[5:36] Oh, back there.
[5:37] Yeah, I don't see anyone.
[5:39] Okay.
[5:39] And Bob, a little bit of trivia as they're coming up.
[5:42] I know you'll appreciate this, but Remaken is Harold Moral's granddaughter.
[5:47] Oh.
[5:48] Great.
[5:50] Harold Moral is one of my favorite memories.
[5:53] Are you in the camera?
[5:55] So, the camera's right back here.
[5:56] I know, but can you see him?
[5:58] Yes.
[5:58] Oh, yes.
[5:59] Yes.
[5:59] All right, so to go over a little bit about Tranquony House, it is a residential facility
[6:11] for women and children, so it's for specifically substance use, although many of our clients
[6:18] come in and they have the dual diagnosis, and so with that they have to have a substance
[6:23] use disorder and with it being a women in children's facility they can bring their kids in with them
[6:30] up to 10 years old which is really neat to be able to continue to have that mother relationship
[6:38] and have them live with them in the home. We have many women who come in who are pregnant in which we
[6:44] prioritize those women as well and many of them have their children give birth to their children
[6:52] mother in the home and then they're able to bring those little babies with them into the
[6:56] home as well. Which I think is a really unique thing. I know there's only a few women and
[7:03] children's residential facilities in this state and so we're glad to be able to have that here.
[7:10] We were human services and the program kind of works in three phases. The first being stabilization,
[7:16] so staff are with the clients at all times just making sure that they're safe and where they need to
[7:21] being, they're working with our case managers to help all their basic needs
[7:25] and looking for housing, any health or legal issues that they're facing.
[7:30] They're doing those taken care of during those phases.
[7:33] And we kind of move on to stabilization and balance whether they're
[7:37] frantic, what we call past hours to go out and make those safe community
[7:42] connections and build their family relationships again.
[7:46] We start around 90 women in 2025 with the majority.
[7:49] either having children living in the home visiting the home or being expecting
[7:55] while they were in the home. We connect them to daycare resources and we're
[7:59] able to pay for that while they're there so that moms can focus on their
[8:02] recovery and gain the treatment they need.
[8:07] They're also connected with
[8:08] empowered so that helps them get baby supplies, rides to doctors appointments and
[8:13] which is kind of rough around services to help long-term child.
[8:19] Along with this, while they're in the facility, they're receiving the evidence-based treatments
[8:25] that we provide, which I'm sure many of you guys are aware of the process that we were
[8:30] going through in order to select bills' treatments.
[8:34] The women there receive about 20 plus hours of treatment per week.
[8:38] They do receive treatment every single day of a bulk of that being Monday through Friday.
[8:45] And half of that or more than half of that is those evidence-based treatments.
[8:49] And then they do receive additional treatment while they're there.
[8:52] So some of the standard treatment that they receive is our intensive outpatient treatment,
[8:58] our matrix program, which consists of early recovery, relapse prevention, and family matrix.
[9:04] they also receive a seeking safety while they're there, a skills group, and then
[9:12] some of them, of course they receive CEDA as well, doing their individual sessions
[9:16] with their therapist. Some of them while they're there, depending on their
[9:21] individual needs, like I said a little bit earlier, depending on their diagnosis,
[9:27] they may be receiving some additional mental health treatments, some of our
[9:32] evidence-based treatments to address
[9:34] some of the serious mental illnesses that some of them
[9:36] they have, and some of the criminogenic risk as well.
[9:41] So they may receive some of those additional groups
[9:44] and in addition to some of those regular standard groups
[9:48] that we do provide them with that, though,
[9:52] we've really worked hard to team with our youth team
[9:55] where we have the kid component in the home.
[9:58] so that way the kids can receive their own treatment.
[10:02] They can have their therapist here with the youth team
[10:05] which then in turn they are coordinating
[10:08] and working with the mother as well
[10:11] and so she would be participating in their treatment.
[10:14] We do have a case manager
[10:16] from the youth team who comes over
[10:18] and works with the mom and children as well.
[10:22] She does a group with them
[10:23] but then she'll also work with them individually
[10:26] to help with some parenting services.
[10:29] Question that they're talking about,
[10:30] the tranquillity home, just like that.
[10:33] Boy, that sounds nice right now.
[10:37] Training will be okay.
[10:41] Just a bit of bad walk off.
[10:42] No, that's a bit of a walk off.
[10:45] Go ahead.
[10:46] No, you're good.
[10:48] They do have access to case managers
[10:52] to really work on connecting them
[10:54] with different resources in the community.
[10:56] really helping prepare them to transition out of the home and into their own place.
[11:01] So whether that's one of our family units with our self-reliving
[11:05] or into just one of our regular self-reliving units
[11:10] or into their own housing as well.
[11:13] And then our techs who are there with them 24-7
[11:17] really work with them and interact with them regularly.
[11:20] And we have really built the home around
[11:23] skills and coping skills and so the everyday staff there will help just reinforce
[11:29] what's being taught in the treatments as well. The last great thing I want to
[11:35] mention is that we do take them to if they're willing to attend outside AA meetings
[11:40] weekly and have kind of a schedule we go through and we go to recovery community
[11:44] events and other non-recovery focused community events just to help connect
[11:50] them back into the community and how safe place is to win the transition from our program.
[11:59] Is there a wait list of the program?
[12:02] There is yes. It's not super long right now but there is a wait list and we do prioritize
[12:09] certain people over others at times so if someone's capitated to us we do work on trying to get them
[12:15] in quicker. Same thing with those who are currently pregnant or using IV, we do prioritize
[12:21] those folks as well. And then if somebody has expansion or TAM, if they don't want to
[12:28] work on waiting, we can connect them to other facilities in the community. But in the
[12:33] meanwhile, while they're on the wait list, we do have day treatment there. So they may
[12:37] not be residing there, but they can come there for the same treatment, or they can attend
[12:43] in our intensive outpatient treatment at the same time.
[12:45] So, what do we do?
[12:47] Talk about the referral process
[12:48] because that's partly in conjunction with DCFS, right?
[12:53] Not necessarily, it can be.
[12:55] Okay.
[12:56] We do have like our specialty courts,
[12:58] so we have our family recovery court,
[13:02] and then also just our regular drug courts as well.
[13:05] And so we do work with those community partners
[13:07] to work on getting some of those highly folks in, for sure.
[13:12] So a clinician is they meet with their client and they're assessing what level of care someone may need.
[13:19] If they do end up meeting that residential level of care, they'll reach out to Dave Woodbury, who's the direct supervisor over the program.
[13:28] They coordinate with him on getting their client on the list, and then in the meanwhile, we're working on making sure that they are attending either intensive outpatient treatment or they can then come to Tranquility House and attend the day treatment.
[13:41] until they get in.
[13:43] And we have the treatment right on site.
[13:46] We did an inbuilt years ago that's right next to the home.
[13:50] So it's just really convenient as they have kids living there.
[13:54] And then the ones coming in from the community as well.
[13:57] So you don't really cross paths with too many of our clients
[14:00] that would be here normally.
[14:02] That women can just go right there and get their treatment.
[14:06] Years ago, I was at work for shopping
[14:10] And
[14:16] it's in a different location since you probably went.
[14:18] I think you went to where's stepping stone is right now.
[14:21] Yeah, I wanted to have Chelsea and Megan stay up here
[14:26] for just a minute to highlight them a little bit as well.
[14:30] But just as a reminder, we serve 7 to 8,000 clients a year
[14:35] at Weber Human Services in the clinical area.
[14:38] Tranquility home served about 90 of those
[14:41] during this last year, but again, these are some of our most vulnerable clients
[14:47] that we have. These are women, a lot of them with child who are using substance
[14:55] substances and are in danger of dying or losing their children.
[15:00] Or their life falling apart, and they can come to tranquility home, again, with their child, if the child is under 10 years old, so that they don't necessarily lose that relationship with their child, the child goes to day treatment or to day-care during the day or to school, and the mother goes to treatment, they're reunited at night to practice the skills that mom has learned with some oversight and supervision. It's one of only a couple of facilities like this in Utah. We serve the northern region, so it's not just we're
[15:30] in Morgan counties, we actually serve the northern region of Utah and get some referrals
[15:34] from other catchment areas. Chelsea and Megan have been supervising a couple of our
[15:41] residential for a period of time. Chelsea a little bit longer, Megan, just for the past
[15:45] year or so. And they are doing a fantastic job with the environment for these women.
[15:59] They're
[16:00] hotels to make our women feel comfortable there, like it's a privilege to be there and it really is,
[16:06] and then obviously we're trying to provide the best treatment as possible. I will say a residential
[16:11] facility is rarely tranquil, like the tranquility home, and we do try and create a nice good environment
[16:19] for our women and our children, and these two right here I will say are instrumental in creating that
[16:27] environment and keeping staff on board, really hard to keep residential staff members and
[16:33] they do a great job with keeping our staff and keeping them happy and most importantly
[16:37] serving our women.
[16:38] So I want to thank you both for your presentation today and ask if there are any other questions.
[16:49] Presentation, I appreciate that.
[16:51] Any questions online?
[16:55] Right.
[16:55] Thank you.
[16:57] Jen, just out of curiosity, I was at an addiction recovery meeting up that you saw on
[17:01] on 24th and Quincy. Last night, there was a week in the services ban and a whole bunch
[17:08] of young people standing around. I didn't ask them, but they were doing. But what was that?
[17:13] So we do participate or work with you, Sarah, which is a substance use advocacy group. And
[17:25] I'm not sure were they under, were they like teenagers or were they like, okay so it could
[17:31] have been part of our youth group that would go up there, our youth team but we work
[17:37] hand in hand with Usara, especially with recovery days coming up in the month of September.
[17:43] So a big event so it could have been part of that too.
[17:46] Okay, yeah, you know, I'm always impressed with the collaboration with other agencies working together and that sort of thing.
[17:55] They mentioned it here as well.
[18:00] All right.
[18:01] Action items.
[18:03] Kevin?
[18:04] This side of them will be counted by Kristen.
[18:07] Okay, Kristen.
[18:09] I
[18:13] apologize for my baseball clothing.
[18:16] I forgot we had board meetings this morning.
[18:18] Hey, baseball.
[18:19] Yes.
[18:20] I'm going to Miami in a couple weeks.
[18:22] We're going to a game.
[18:22] So there's a reason it's Boston theme and not New York. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you
[18:28] I like the Yankees. I'm just asking the question and it's just talking about cities right now
[18:38] Pink I see. Oh, I see. It's not you know a baseball baseball shirt
[18:45] It's just a baseball shirt. So the Colorado Rockies as long as it was pink would work. Yeah, I see
[18:50] Thank you for clarifying that.
[18:53] My husband is a Red Sox fan, so by default I'm a Yankees fan just to cause controversy.
[19:00] Thank you.
[19:02] You should know my ball player is a Boston fan.
[19:06] We talked about that last month or the month before.
[19:09] Oh, I talked about it too much, probably.
[19:11] No, I was the first and only time I've heard it.
[19:14] I'm a Yankees fan, so to help him out, you were the Red Sox fan.
[19:18] was a complete sacrifice for me to wear the Boston hat and it worked a couple of
[19:22] times and then it quit working and I thought that's Boston, they just kind of
[19:26] fizzed a lot.
[19:32] I became not a Boston fan anymore after Big Poppy left, even though he couldn't
[19:39] run towards like his last game, we saw his last game in Boston and I was
[19:43] disappointed. He got a home run and he had to walk at it. So anyway moving on to our military.
[19:52] So this there was a law that was passed last year. It does not apply to every entity. It applies
[20:03] to public governments. Increasing the military paid hours when somebody has to go and do their military
[20:12] So it increases it from 120 to 160.
[20:16] So 15 days to
[20:20] 20 days, I need to upstate that.
[20:22] 15 days was the last one.
[20:25] Maybe it was 10 days that was on there.
[20:35] No, that's correct.
[20:36] It used to be 10.
[20:37] So I did look and the state of Utah did pass this.
[20:42] They were required to.
[20:43] Any federal entity is required to.
[20:46] We, as an interlocal, are not required to.
[20:49] We were county is not required to. I kind of wanted to push this through for our military employees
[20:56] It's an extra five days that could get paid if they were overseas. I did look this morning
[21:02] We were county is still on a hundred and twenty days
[21:06] So this would be a more lucrative policy for our military employees
[21:15] One
[21:17] He was the one that brought this to my attention. I
[21:19] I didn't know anything about it.
[21:22] For the first time ever in my career, just kidding.
[21:27] Hopefully, that's the only time,
[21:28] but I didn't know anything about it.
[21:29] He brought it to our attention
[21:30] and I did some research on it.
[21:32] He just spent a year where it easily.
[21:34] Isn't Italy?
[21:35] In Italy.
[21:36] Yeah, I've just got back maybe three months ago.
[21:41] So what this does is it covers them
[21:43] for the first 160 hours.
[21:45] They get their regular pay.
[21:47] And then they go on unpaid leave
[21:49] where they can use their vacation.
[21:52] They can't use sick leave unless it goes to the federal policy that they actually have
[21:56] to be sick.
[21:59] So it just increases in a few days that they get paid while they're out, helps their families
[22:03] out.
[22:04] Any questions from the board?
[22:09] Any comments from you?
[22:11] No.
[22:14] If there are no questions, do we have a motion?
[22:18] Do we need a roll call on this?
[22:20] Yes.
[22:24] This would be the first and second reading.
[22:26] Yes.
[22:34] I'll make a motion that we bring in this military leave into your policies and procedures.
[22:41] You seem like you've had a question, or did you?
[22:44] My face.
[22:44] It's just my face.
[22:46] It always looks like a question.
[22:49] When I see your face, it makes me happy.
[22:52] Does it call anything into question, though?
[22:55] Thank you.
[22:56] That's it.
[22:56] Likewise, so far. So before you do the motion, I am not correct on the 15 days. It is 20 days. I just did the math on my calculator, so I changed them.
[23:10] So it's 10 or 15 or 20? It's 20. Is that the final answer? Yes.
[23:17] But 160 divided by 8 is 20. So it's 20. So if you want to approve this, you can do it contingent on the changing of 15 to 20.
[23:26] Are you sure? I'm positive. I'm just included in the motion.
[23:30] I just said 20 days instead of 15. I was like, no, it's always been 15.
[23:34] I'll just restate my motion to include 20 days,
[23:38] or to match whatever the requirement is.
[23:42] Just in case there's it.
[23:46] Commissioner, do you know what? Messed her up this morning?
[23:49] Putting on the Boston garb.
[23:52] Probably. No, it's got to be something to it.
[23:56] Dr. Blues nice. Do we have a second? Yeah Julie thank you. Okay go ahead and stay
[24:04] see. Commissioner for. You
[24:14] should be okay. Commissioner Harvey. Hi. Commissioner
[24:18] Bullows. She's still on. She might be off. She's busy getting ready for that meeting.
[24:26] Okay, Julie, Southwick, can
[24:32] I hear her?
[24:32] I think she responded and then you did.
[24:34] Yeah.
[24:35] Clant, they're good.
[24:36] Hi.
[24:37] And Bob Hunter.
[24:38] Yes.
[24:39] Okay.
[24:40] We have a majority at least.
[24:42] Yeah.
[24:43] All right.
[24:45] Thank you, everyone.
[24:47] We always want to be respectful of the military.
[24:57] I just have a couple of quick items this morning.
[25:03] Last couple of months, I've talked about the capital projects that are wrapping up, the
[25:07] Stepping Stone Treatment Facility will be completed in September, so we'll have a,
[25:14] could we have a little tour maybe that morning?
[25:17] Yeah, well we can figure out something, we're not going to do an open house, but we could
[25:21] try to do a tour or something for the board, and or I can make sure I take some video, but
[25:29] Let's try to do that. We'll try to arrange that. You can't tour against people in there, right? No, we won't open it yet
[25:37] We'll just make sure we tour it before the board make it available before we actually open it
[25:42] Okay, so sometimes September and all of us keep you a price like that and see if there is interest and availability
[25:49] Come through that
[25:52] But just like the tranquility presentation this morning. That's what this facility will be for me
[25:56] So it'll be right on site and as they're getting their lives back in order, this is really a convenience that's a necessity.
[26:05] There's so much for them to do.
[26:07] You know, the parole officers and the treatment and getting the jobs and even finding their next place of residence and everything.
[26:15] So this is going to be a real nice luxury and we really appreciate.
[26:18] We've got a commission and the opiate settlement funding that's going to pay to this facility.
[26:25] So we're really excited about that.
[26:29] One of my remaining priorities that's just always on my mind is this integrated physical health clinic.
[26:38] I'm bringing it up this morning because coupled to this, if you've been paying attention to the news, there is a Medicaid shortfall in the state of Utah.
[26:50] and the reason is not real clear. There's several speculations, I know with some of the news reports that the governor and Tracy Gruber who is over VHHS has stated this was not a mismanagement of Medicaid in particular, but it was just a lot of factors that were not considered one of which that is the unwinding occurred from COVID.
[27:20] the people that were coming off Medicaid were the people that were really not using Medicaid.
[27:26] And so there was not a huge high cost of Medicaid going out to those folks.
[27:32] The ones that have always used it are still a lot of Medicaid.
[27:36] And so those costs really haven't decreased even with COVID.
[27:41] There's that there's some high physical health payments that have gone out to Medicaid.
[27:48] There's a lot of speculation right now.
[27:51] I bring it up just to make sure that the board is informed about it that there is this
[27:57] shortfall and it's somewhere between $100 and $200 million.
[28:01] So it's really huge.
[28:03] There is some rainy day fund that has been set aside by the legislature more than likely
[28:08] that will be used, more than likely there will be some additional possible cuts to this.
[28:13] They're right now saying that there are no cuts to the services, but when you're talking
[28:20] $100 million, I don't know that they're going to be able to do the whole budget.
[28:24] And we'll see how what happens on that.
[28:27] There was some finger pointing in the hearings that behavioral health was the culprit.
[28:34] I can assure you that we're one of the lower paid systems in Medicaid, even though we're
[28:40] still high.
[28:41] There's a lot of money that goes into behavioral health.
[28:43] So, it'll be really interesting to see how this kind of really unwinds.
[28:47] I wanted the board to be aware of that in case you hadn't.
[28:51] We don't know where the complete landing of this will be.
[28:57] But as I'm continuing to work on physical health reimbursement payments in our integrated
[29:04] clinic, I don't know that we're going to get a lot of movement.
[29:08] We haven't had movement for a decade anyway.
[29:09] And as you know, we begin the services continues to be that one of those sites, there's a clinic in Salt Lake that does the same thing.
[29:20] We both know that the care that is given to our mentally ill individuals is very, very good and it makes a big difference in their lives and in their recovery.
[29:33] So it continues to be a priority for us here at Weber Human Services.
[29:37] I just don't know how much movement we're going to get.
[29:39] We've written a white paper on this.
[29:42] I'm going to continue to work on trying to get some legislative splotters ship out of it.
[29:48] It's just not a good time with $100 million or $200 million cut and Medicaid.
[29:54] So I kind of wanted to just put all that into a little package this morning as part of my report.
[30:01] I don't know if you have any questions about it. I don't know if we have a lot of answers about it. Is that the social services appropriations committee that work? Yeah. You've been in touch with the board. I have not been in touch with him, but I know he's the one that's chairing in well as the chair. He's probably one of the most sympathetic people in the legislature. We're lucky to have him there. I'm lucky to know that he's willing to stay in that position.
[30:29] and communication with him, I think, is very helpful.
[30:31] Yeah, and our system is definitely in communication with him,
[30:34] with him being a physician, you're right.
[30:37] He's well-versed in mental health issues, physical health issues.
[30:41] Dictionary coverage.
[30:42] Women, yeah, women and children, yeah, addiction.
[30:45] Because he's a good person to have as a chair on that committee.
[30:50] But we're interested in who's going to be the new senator president.
[30:54] I know what.
[30:56] Senator Bickers is interested in he's a pharmacist and he may have something I don't know
[31:02] who the other can't do.
[31:04] Hammer.
[31:05] Who?
[31:06] I think it's hammered.
[31:08] Is it he sold like?
[31:09] I don't know where he is.
[31:12] I know Bickers.
[31:12] Not up here.
[31:13] I know.
[31:14] Bickers is Iron County.
[31:16] You know, I was really hoping that Senator Sandal would be shooting.
[31:21] Oh, that'd be great.
[31:22] He's been very supportive of all the things we do here in Northern Utah.
[31:27] Very influential.
[31:28] I just like you, but it seems like he hasn't even thrown his name in.
[31:31] I think you'll see Johnson, our local Johnson on the top.
[31:36] You know, it's a majority or a way at birth, one of that.
[31:42] Really?
[31:46] I can help you there.
[31:48] Okay.
[31:49] Good.
[31:49] It's a juvenile delinquent, but I can help you.
[31:54] All right.
[31:55] I would be put that in the minutes.
[32:01] It's recorded.
[32:05] That's all I have.
[32:07] There's no other questions about it.
[32:09] Any questions, comments?
[32:12] All right, we'll stay on top of it as much as we can.
[32:16] I have just a few things for it.
[32:20] I don't know if Commissioner Forrest is still online.
[32:23] He may want to comment, but we've been working for years,
[32:28] literally years to try to find the right housing locations for through the
[32:37] Weaver Housing Authority, and it's just I don't know I don't know I don't know how
[32:43] Andy hasn't gone crazy. We had that experience last year with Austin City that
[32:49] turned out to be pretty negative and we thought we had something all lined up in
[32:54] South Ogden. It was not required by the South Ogden City regulations for us to go to them.
[33:04] We had a housing complex set up on Washington Boulevard, just south of 36th Street, close to bus
[33:13] transportation, all the other things that people need to get to the services. And it was that we had
[33:21] arrangements with the builder of the building, 25 unit complex, perfect place, it's not basically
[33:28] not in a neighborhood, it's right on Washington Boulevard, and we went to the South
[33:34] Army City Council and made a presentation in their work meeting, and there weren't very
[33:40] many of the council members there, but it was, we thought we'd done a pretty good job
[33:47] of that. And then we got a letter from Mayor Porter saying the council has chosen not
[33:54] to put it on their agenda. So another two years of work just going down the drain, I
[34:01] don't know what we're going to do. The cities, you know, it's this nimbidam thing and all
[34:07] of this miscommunication about we don't want that element here. We'll help. They're part
[34:11] of us, we are part of that element. And if we don't take care of the people who need
[34:17] that kind of help, I just, you know,
[34:22] yeah. This is big. Yes, go ahead, cage. Appreciate
[34:26] you bringing that up. Yeah, it was real discouraging, especially when we work with
[34:33] senior managers, our Logan City, prior to that for two or three months. It was
[34:39] allowed by zone and he indicated that there wouldn't be a problem but then it got to the point
[34:47] where it needed a resolution from the city council and that's when things went the other direction.
[34:52] So I told Andy out that we need to get some legislation in place that basically would say if it's
[35:01] allowed a P&A zone that the City Council resolution would not be required for this type
[35:09] of use. To me, that's the only way around. We're just going to begin the water for this
[35:15] type of housing in the future. And again, you say a lot of money, that's true, and that
[35:22] And that money's on state money for this intended purpose but now we'll go to some other
[35:30] cities or counties that understand the need for housing, but I don't think there's any
[35:35] better need than we have right here, a bigger need than we have right here in Wheeling County.
[35:40] So anyway, kind of a sad scenario.
[35:44] Do you recall that the board had the discussion here that when Ogden City kind of was vetoing
[35:54] that project that you just mentioned Bob, there was a consideration that maybe we used
[36:01] our center, mental health center here, to front that somehow, we didn't want to do that
[36:07] to the city.
[36:09] But after all this type of work that you're describing here, is that something that
[36:13] We don't want to consider again, as the mental health authority, we don't have to have
[36:20] the city's permission to do a housing unit.
[36:25] It
[36:28] really comes down to who's running the center, though, because it's going to be the housing authority.
[36:33] That's the hard part.
[36:34] They still need the...
[36:35] Yeah.
[36:36] And it's all time to the definitions of their area of operation.
[36:43] I just wondered if there's some way to do this,
[36:45] because of all this hard work that goes into this and we don't want to cause
[36:50] waves with the city but that's just terrible. All that work has been down the
[36:55] drain and and unless we get some legislation that passes you're going to keep
[37:02] running into it. And what's sad is we didn't meet their permission but our own
[37:07] regulations told us we had to get permission and I don't know.
[37:12] Under
[37:15] the that's under state law and the definitions that they have to have the permission of the local mean is palatable.
[37:24] Yeah.
[37:26] Well, let's see, we're meeting next week aren't we good?
[37:30] Try this.
[37:30] Yeah, anyway, it's going to take some work.
[37:33] As you remember, you know, we talked about taking this to the housing authority.
[37:39] The Oregon City went to the legislature and actually had Wilcox open up a bill file that would take that
[37:47] section of code out and allow the housing to allow the Weaver Human Services to perform that
[37:55] operation within a, you know, four or with the housing available.
[37:59] Right.
[38:00] That didn't happen.
[38:02] I think that's what we're facing.
[38:06] Thank you.
[38:07] Anyway, appreciate it.
[38:09] Thanks for all your work on a commissioner.
[38:12] You're welcome.
[38:14] One other thing.
[38:15] This past week,
[38:19] and in previous weeks,
[38:22] we have a huge volunteer group here in Weber County
[38:26] that is supported by Weber Human Services.
[38:30] The most recent one was this week, and there are 400 RSVP
[38:37] The retired senior volunteer people who are working in museums, in the schools, in government
[38:46] offices, in all of the different agencies that support our community, there are 33 different
[38:52] stations where they work.
[38:54] And they were honored that the group was so big they had to have a lunch and form two different
[38:59] days that divided the group in half and had a lunch and two different days.
[39:04] I attended one of those two days.
[39:05] and thank you, Nobu. We were able to distribute some flyers, asking for volunteers on our
[39:13] tutor program in the schools. We need another 60 volunteers and the elderly people who are
[39:20] retired and who can consistently go into the schools and tutor those kids are just, they're
[39:25] amazing. They're like earth angels going into those schools. But that's just one of the things
[39:31] that, you know, Hiller Force Base Museum would not be able to operate without RSVP.
[39:39] That's how important those volunteers are.
[39:42] Union Station Museum.
[39:45] And that's just the museums.
[39:46] There are other organizations and government organizations that use these volunteers.
[39:53] I just wanted to tell a quick story.
[39:55] There's one of the people they honored on Wednesday
[39:59] is 99 years old. He still drives a little bit. I don't know if I want to be on the same
[40:06] street with him, but I'm talking home. Maybe I can do that when I'm 99 years old. I don't
[40:13] think we'll see.
[40:16] And I went up to him after the luncheon and I said, so what do you do?
[40:21] And he said, well, I don't just do one thing. He said, I go to Hillar Force Base Museum on
[40:27] on Thursdays and then I go to Union Station on Fridays and he's a volunteer, 99 years
[40:33] old helping people in those tours and that sort of thing.
[40:38] That's just representative of the kind of dedication we have and every year the funds
[40:42] get just a little tighter and a little tighter and I'm going to make sure we get that message
[40:48] to the legislature that without the volunteer help that comes from our nonprofit organizations
[40:56] government, government just wouldn't be as effective as it is, so that's absolutely true.
[41:04] And volunteers, that's critical, but just as we always look for matching funds or the
[41:12] legislature looks for matching funds before they do a project, maybe we could put together
[41:18] something where it's a gifter or a fund in kind because of this volunteerism.
[41:24] That would be my first point because there's a lot of money saved with volunteers and we've
[41:29] accounting per capita has more volunteers than any other county in the state of Utah.
[41:35] That's the first thing.
[41:37] Secondly, I also think it's good for the mental health of the seniors because it gives them
[41:44] something to do.
[41:46] We're having great experience in our culture parks and recreation department.
[41:51] people, for instance, we had an opening out at our archery center and we had many
[42:00] overqualified candidates who want to come and do groundwork because they like
[42:06] being out at the archery center. I thought the same thing when you were
[42:11] talking about the Hill Arrow Space Museum, how many people, especially in that
[42:16] generation, loved or felt an attachment with that type of a thing. So we
[42:21] We have assets here that I think contribute back to that spirit of giving back, and
[42:29] volunteerism is critical in a community, that's absolutely critical.
[42:33] You're right about that, Bob.
[42:35] Of course you've always been right most things, some people accuse me of being too far left.
[42:41] Well now there is a little balance we have to keep, so okay.
[42:47] You talk about Weaver County being one of those largest organizations that we employ
[42:55] these 400 people, but Sherry mentioned that even nationally, they're gaining national
[43:01] recognition because they can't believe how effective the volunteer programs are working
[43:07] in this county.
[43:09] What else does she say about that?
[43:11] Well, part of it, and nobody does this, and part of it is the way we treat them.
[43:19] You know, those lunches were held up to remind, delicious lunch.
[43:23] I mean, it demonstrated how much we appreciate it.
[43:26] I kind of just want them out of box lunch.
[43:28] We had salmon and chicken, and it was very, very nice.
[43:33] Each volunteer don't know each other and it's good opportunity to be together to kind of exchange information
[43:41] which what you do, you know, that's the real important and we are the big champion for
[43:48] non-profit government organizations, volunteers, both. That's the kind of our main point for RSVP.
[43:56] For profit organizations like Hospice, Home Health, they're also looking for volunteers.
[44:02] But we don't think what I'm here to vote for the orientation.
[44:06] We have big support champions for the government.
[44:09] Good.
[44:10] And a lot of these people were recognized in 5-year increments.
[44:14] All the way up to 25 years they've been doing this.
[44:17] There was a long time for these volunteers to 25 years.
[44:23] I didn't go with that particular one.
[44:25] And all day she said, oh, there were some.
[44:26] There were several over 20 years this time, right?
[44:29] Did we have on the 25th or so?
[44:31] 25 years.
[44:32] Yeah.
[44:34] Anyway, thanks for what you do.
[44:36] Thanks for human human service.
[44:39] Glad you brought that up.
[44:40] I actually had that on my list, and I didn't
[44:43] transferred to my notes, so glad you brought it up.
[44:46] Any other comments from board members or questions?
[44:51] If not, thank you.
[44:54] Thank you all.
[44:56] We have a motion.
[44:57] Motion to adjourn.
[44:59] Second.
[45:00] All in favor? Aye. Aye.
[45:07] Well, that's the ball game.
[45:39] We collect a little token to get these little tokens in the middle of the back cap.
[45:54] Did you ever attend John's like tarp?
[45:57] I did.
[45:58] I watched the long denays.
[46:02] I was born in 1972, and you were probably a Potswim.
[46:07] I was a Potswim, but I do remember that stadium out there, and the parking in front, and everything.