1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,640 All right, I'll call the August 3rd City 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,480 Council meeting to order. 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:05,160 Call the roll. 4 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,960 >> Ashley Allers, here. Abby Hanson, John 5 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:08,720 Hawkins, 6 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:09,120 >> Yeah. 7 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:09,920 >> John Marvel, 8 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:10,320 >> Here. 9 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,320 >> Megan McFarland, 10 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:12,600 >> Here. 11 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,590 >> Pledge of Allegiance. 12 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,000 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 13 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,040 United States of America, 14 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,480 and to the republic for which it stands, 15 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,880 one nation under God, indivisible, with 16 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,830 liberty and justice for all. 17 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,600 » Move for a motion to approve the agenda. 18 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,599 Motion to approve. 19 00:00:32,599 --> 00:00:33,320 >> Second. 20 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,520 >> All those in favor say aye. 21 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,120 >> Aye. 22 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,640 >> Uh 23 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,160 Item one is petitions, communications, 24 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:40,640 or requests. This is the time of the 25 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,920 meeting that a citizen may address the 26 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,680 council on a matter not on the agenda. 27 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,200 No minute No more than 5 minutes per 28 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,600 person, except in cases of emergency, 29 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,720 the City Council not not take any action 30 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,360 at this meeting, but our city staff to 31 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,760 research the matter and have the matter 32 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,120 placed on the agenda for a future 33 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,880 meeting. 34 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:04,390 Mark, you got something for us tonight? 35 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,240 » Good evening. A few months ago, I just 36 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,400 happened to talk to John. 37 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,080 >> Tell us your name. 38 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,310 >> Oh, Mark Gillette. 39 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:13,200 Um stopped in and talked to John about 40 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,440 real estate. I was only needing 10 41 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,590 minutes, but it took us an hour and 42 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,760 Um 43 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,840 So, around 2008, the council 44 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,280 [clears throat] was asked to increase 45 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,840 the permits 46 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,720 of connections for new construction uh 47 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,760 for a 3/4 inch line 48 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,000 for $1,600 49 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,360 or for a 1-inch line 50 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,960 Excuse me, $2,300. That was just the 51 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:42,040 permit cost. 52 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Uh which is pretty anti-growth. Well, 53 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,400 they 54 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,080 in 2011, they rescinded that ordinance, 55 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,920 going back to normal. 56 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,320 So, around 2007, the council was asked 57 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,040 to adopt the international building 58 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,440 codes. 59 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,280 The codes that the were the same as ours 60 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,440 at the time, so there was really no 61 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,160 problem. It passed 8 5 to 0. 62 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,800 Unfortunately, they didn't tell us that 63 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,320 every 2 years 64 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,280 they increase the mortgage rates, more 65 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,870 money. 66 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,990 Uh 67 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,280 So, 68 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,760 a few years back before John's time 69 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:19,959 here, 70 00:02:19,959 --> 00:02:21,200 um 71 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,400 the manager 72 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:23,760 and 73 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,320 Daniel and 74 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,760 the Yahoo you hired down in 75 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Des Moines or Polk County 76 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,800 got together and they had the council 77 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,920 change the ordinance. 78 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:38,040 So, instead of costing 6 to 8,000 79 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,280 dollars 80 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,920 to put in water and sewer, 81 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:43,680 it went to 18,000 because of these, 82 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,320 which that can be rescinded also. 83 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,000 We're going to be tearing down 75 of our 84 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,760 lots, so we really If you want growth, 85 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,480 you're not going to get it with 18,000 86 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,640 dollars with all the infill lots we 87 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:56,520 have. 88 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,840 The other thing we talked about was 89 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,920 granny houses 90 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:02,120 and 91 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,600 where you could tie on 92 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,120 to the existing house if there's room 93 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,880 for the water and sewer lines. 94 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,040 Save thousands of dollars doing that, 95 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,560 plus you could have either Airbnb, a 96 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,400 small rental, 97 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,720 or a granny house. 98 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,080 Uh 99 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,320 So, what I dropped off tonight for you 100 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,560 is something to read. 101 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,560 They have these 102 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,840 little annexations in Cedar Rapids, 103 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,640 Cedar Falls, Portland, Oregon, British 104 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:35,280 Columbia, California and all kinds of 105 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,760 Although, I think two years you can get 106 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,600 the plans. 107 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Uh question. 108 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,480 So, hopefully you consider it. 109 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,440 Um I do have a lot next to my house, 110 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,640 which I'd like to put in a sewer and 111 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:47,680 water. 112 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,480 Then I could sell it in the future if I 113 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,720 wanted to. 114 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,239 Um 115 00:03:52,239 --> 00:03:54,440 Or if I can't, cuz I'm not going to 116 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,480 spend $18,000. If it's If they want to 117 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,560 artificially up, that's that's crazy. 118 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,640 So, I won't be building there. 119 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,160 If I can, and you can change the 120 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,960 ordinance, takes three of you 121 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,920 to buy into my house, I'd already had a 122 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,280 house built 123 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,959 for a granny house or a Airbnb or just a 124 00:04:13,959 --> 00:04:16,799 family come stay, you know. 125 00:04:16,799 --> 00:04:18,079 So, give you something to think about. 126 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:19,359 Hope you do. 127 00:04:19,359 --> 00:04:19,840 >> Yeah. 128 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:20,359 >> Um 129 00:04:20,359 --> 00:04:22,240 >> Thanks, Knox. 130 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,560 >> Nate Ball. 131 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:29,080 Knoxville Ball. 132 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,790 Knoxville 133 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,520 » All right. Um 134 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,360 is it close enough? Yeah, it's close 135 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,560 enough. 136 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,280 All right. Uh consent the following 137 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:42,040 items have been deemed non-controversial 138 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,600 routine actions to be approved by the 139 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,480 council on a single motion. If a council 140 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,040 member or member of the audience wishes 141 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,480 to have an item removed from this list, 142 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,640 it'll be considered on its normal 143 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,360 sequence on the agenda. 144 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,720 I have uh A is the minutes of July 20 145 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:54,800 meeting. 146 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,680 Um B is claims in the fund list. C is 147 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,919 the issuance of a beer and liquor 148 00:04:58,919 --> 00:05:00,480 licenses by the Iowa Department of 149 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,919 Commerce for uh recommended for the 150 00:05:02,919 --> 00:05:05,000 following. Approve new class C retail 151 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,720 alcohol license including outdoor 152 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,919 service for Wildcat Products at 713 153 00:05:08,919 --> 00:05:10,560 Second Street. 154 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,280 Approve a new class C retail alcohol 155 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:15,200 license for Now and Forever at 1102 156 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,160 Second Street. And approve a new class C 157 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,760 retail alcohol license for Now and 158 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:20,840 Forever at 159 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:24,640 1803 Superior Street. That's uh formerly 160 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,800 S Way. 161 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,440 And then D is a resolution authorizing 162 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,240 issuance of a cigarette, tobacco, 163 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,680 nicotine, vapor device 164 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,320 uh retail permits for Brewed Number 165 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,480 Seven 166 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,640 and Now and Forever formerly S Way at 167 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:43,680 1803 and 1102 Second Street and Superior Second Street. 168 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,800 Uh E is a resolution and 169 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,840 directing publication of gross wage 170 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,600 salaries for the full-time and part-time 171 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,200 city employees for the calendar year of 172 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,640 2025. 173 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,760 That's it. 174 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,000 >> Motion to approve collectively. 175 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,320 >> Second. 176 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,840 >> All in favor say aye. 177 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,000 >> Aye. 178 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,040 >> And then general agenda. 179 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,080 We have a public hearing. Public hearing 180 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,160 on a proposal to renew the citywide 181 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,840 urban revitalization plan for 182 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:11,240 residential tax abatement. I'll open the 183 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,280 hearing. 184 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:13,960 Are there any written objections? 185 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,160 >> No, there are none. 186 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,640 >> Are there any oral objections? 187 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,800 Okay, I'll close the hearing. 188 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,560 Very well, we're on time. 189 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,919 >> I apologize. 190 00:06:24,919 --> 00:06:28,520 Good evening, Council. So, this item is 191 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,040 just before you. The plan was adopted in 192 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,320 1993. What it does is on infill lots, it 193 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,760 allows for 3 years of 100% tax abatement 194 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,600 on new construction, and it does have to 195 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,800 be reviewed every 3 years. 196 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,080 We have had about 140 new dwellings that 197 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,560 have had 198 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,000 have taken advantage of this 100% 3-year 199 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,880 tax abatement. And we actually just 200 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,919 approved one at the last meeting, so 201 00:06:57,919 --> 00:07:00,680 that would move it to 141. 202 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,720 The Planning and Zoning Commission did 203 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,040 review this and recommended to the 204 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,560 Council for it to be extended another 3 205 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,720 years. So, tonight I'm just requesting 206 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,360 that you approve the plan for another 3 207 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,830 years. 208 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,600 » Okay, any questions? 209 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,240 Resolution adopting the continuance of 210 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,200 the urban revitalization for residential 211 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,160 tax abatement. 212 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,280 >> Move to approve. 213 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,360 >> Second. All in favor say aye. 214 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,760 >> Aye. 215 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,919 >> Um 216 00:07:30,919 --> 00:07:33,919 right. Would I come up? 217 00:07:33,919 --> 00:07:35,400 Do you want to 218 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,505 talk on your request for the reduction 219 00:07:38,505 --> 00:07:39,320 [clears throat] 220 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,080 lower the lot prices at 2501 North 221 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,110 Terrace. 222 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,400 » Yeah, I think 223 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,520 I actually sent out an email and I 224 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,280 apologize to John you went on the 225 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,000 website so I didn't have your email 226 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:52,800 address so 227 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,230 >> There was a problem with my picture. So 228 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,400 » So 229 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,600 well anyway 230 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,760 I laid laid out a lot of the points on 231 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,480 this and and the one point that I forgot 232 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,480 and left out of it was during the time 233 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,160 that we did these constructions we had 234 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,040 these up for sale. The city had been 235 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,080 redoing the streets in that area and had 236 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,960 it blocked off and made it very 237 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,040 difficult to get to that area. So it was 238 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,480 tough for people to even just drive 239 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,680 around and see 240 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,240 what was going on they couldn't even get 241 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,080 to it very easily. So that contributed I 242 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,440 think 243 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,520 a factor to that. 244 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,960 We did lose a sale 245 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,640 on a house one of the houses out there 246 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,440 when they did their budget they figured 247 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,560 out the 248 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:41,520 property taxes were 249 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,800 you know quite a bit higher than what 250 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,000 they expected so they they were not able 251 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,400 to put it together with their budget so 252 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,040 we lost that sale. 253 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,920 And I imagine we'd have to talk to the 254 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,760 realtor but I'm sure other people had 255 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,520 the same situation when they looked at 256 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,480 it. They combined that with 257 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,080 the cost of lumber and and all 258 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,800 construction materials going up and then 259 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,800 and the environment of rates going up it 260 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,960 really made it handicap hard to sell. 261 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,839 There's few other factors you know 262 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:11,240 there's a lot of lots out there on the 263 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,080 west end that you guys have experienced 264 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,240 for years hard to sell and 265 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,520 a lot of that's directly related to the 266 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,200 cost of the lot. 267 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,720 You know they're not a wooded lot or 268 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,520 real scenic you got the highway you're 269 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,240 dealing with so there there's some 270 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,360 challenges out there that you don't need 271 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,440 to be addressed to help sell them and so 272 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,120 with all those things combined with 273 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,200 you know tough environment it made it 274 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,160 very hard to sell houses. We We lost on 275 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,880 average $34,000 a house is what we lost. 276 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,080 Um this house here is in the same 277 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,560 situation. 278 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:48,440 Um especially when we've held it for 279 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,800 over 2 years. So, 280 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,320 makes it hard to do. Um and given the 281 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,520 fact that 282 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,880 the city is willing to incentivize other 283 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,120 another builder to try to build out 284 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,880 there, you know, I appreciate that and I think that's right step. But we'd like 285 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,000 to have ours reduced down to a lower 286 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,560 rate to help us 287 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:09,360 uh 288 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,440 absorb some of the losses we've taken on 289 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,600 that. And also, you know, to 290 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,680 make it more incentivized towards us 291 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:18,520 building small houses in the future out 292 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:19,440 there. 293 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,320 Uh 294 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,160 Getting close to it 295 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,720 >> This specific lot, when did you um start 296 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:26,880 construction? When did you sign the 297 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,360 contract? 298 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,520 >> I'd have to look. I believe it was 2023. 299 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,160 >> 2023? 300 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,200 >> That's what I found. 301 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,960 >> Right. I looked up that I could not find 302 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,360 it. 303 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,080 >> Yeah, so 304 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,030 2023 and uh 305 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,720 » And we paid 306 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,040 >> full price on the other three lots that 307 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,800 we did that. Uh Yeah, well, and and we 308 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,280 carried them for quite some time to get 309 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,880 them sold, but we did finally get them 310 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,560 sold. 311 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:51,960 >> Yeah. 312 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,440 >> And with that and the other houses, uh I 313 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,720 think you'll see we have contributed a 314 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,880 large amount of uh 315 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,680 tax base to the city over the last, you 316 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:05,520 know, 6 8 years that we've been building 317 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,280 here. So, we want to continue that. We 318 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,520 need to try to address 319 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,120 um 320 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,760 you know, the costs so we can absorb 321 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,622 those moving forward. 322 00:11:16,622 --> 00:11:17,839 >> [clears throat] 323 00:11:17,839 --> 00:11:19,600 >> And the house currently, 324 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,240 uh I've driven by, I've heard two or 325 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,080 three different things. The house has 326 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:23,720 been sold? 327 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,030 >> Yes. 328 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,120 » Has that completely gone through? And 329 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,200 that's final and that's 330 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:30,680 >> Yeah, that's final. 331 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:34,710 >> Okay. 332 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,240 » So, I I will tell you all I'm not going 333 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,680 to vote on this because I do work with 334 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:40,880 Brian's wife very closely, um and I 335 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,760 don't want that to be portrayed as a 336 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,480 conflict of interest. 337 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,200 But, you know, um John and I have 338 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,800 talked. You you can tell me there's a 339 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,600 contract in place cuz there is. 340 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,560 Contracts get amended all the time. So, 341 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:54,320 I'm I'm less concerned about there being 342 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,520 a contract than anything else. 343 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,720 Um I do think, 344 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,560 you know, considering we're trying to 345 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:03,200 build and expand the housing in Webster 346 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,840 City and grow the tax base, 347 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,240 that we did just allow this other 348 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,440 company 349 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,600 significantly different lot rates, and I 350 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,920 think at this point it would be the 351 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,760 right thing to do. 352 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Um I I realize this was several years 353 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,600 ago. It's not like he signed it 354 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,080 yesterday and now we're trying to change 355 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,520 it. This was a couple years ago. 356 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,480 Um different city administration, I 357 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,200 think even possibly at that time. 358 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,680 And so, while I'm not going to vote, I I 359 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:32,040 would say it's something I think the 360 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,160 council should seriously consider 361 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,120 looking at the price. 362 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,560 >> Um did did you did you say that we he's 363 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:42,760 you've already paid a thousand for this 364 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,400 lot, haven't you? 365 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:44,760 >> Pardon? 366 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:45,960 >> Is there Is there already a thousand 367 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,200 paid for this lot? 368 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,120 >> so. 369 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,960 >> Um I mean, I'm I'm prepared to uh it 370 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,400 seems you've already paid the thousand. 371 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,400 I'm prepared to to call that good 372 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,640 myself. 373 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,640 Um I think you've you've done enough 374 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,520 stuff. Uh do I like the idea that we're 375 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,520 changing the contract now? No, no, I 376 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,680 don't. But at the same time, 377 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:07,520 I can see why you're asking and and 378 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,160 we've we're doing a deal with somebody 379 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,600 else, which is better than what you got. 380 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,640 So, uh I'm I'm happy to do that, but I 381 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,960 guess it's over to you, Megan. What do 382 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,880 you think? 383 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,600 >> I think that's a 384 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,600 >> So, I I 385 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,440 >> Go ahead. I'm sorry. 386 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,280 >> I think that's a good idea, too. 387 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,839 >> I appreciate everything you've done. And 388 00:13:24,839 --> 00:13:26,240 um 389 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,800 you know, I am 390 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,440 you know, if you would come to us this 391 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,000 year and I think that that 392 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,320 he would have been 393 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,440 gotten a favorable, you know, price for 394 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,880 those lots. 395 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 I can't speak for the council then. I 396 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,280 wasn't on the council. 397 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,440 Um 398 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,080 You know, I do 399 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,560 and I know contracts have been amended. 400 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:51,720 I worked in sports for 40 years and 401 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,880 contracts get changed. 402 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,200 I'm kind of of a different mind. I you 403 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,440 know, I believe the contract is the 404 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,760 contract and um 405 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,400 I do recognize that you've done a lot 406 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,600 for our community. So 407 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,360 >> And I will say or remind you that we did 408 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,440 in 409 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,640 '23 or '24 bring a proposal to buy 410 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,800 significantly more lots at a reduced 411 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,040 price to the council and it was rejected 412 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:19,680 at the time. 413 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,320 >> Yeah, and 414 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,280 so 415 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,200 I think if you did that now and in the 416 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,240 future, I think that you would find that 417 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,120 you know, this council in terms of 418 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,000 economic development and the shortage of 419 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,360 housing, you know, would be more 420 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,120 receptive to such a plan. 421 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,320 >> Do what? 422 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:37,760 Do you want to make [clears throat] a 423 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:43,670 motion to make the first note? 424 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,680 » Thanks, Brian. 425 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,280 >> Thank you. 426 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,160 >> I'll make a motion to 427 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,810 make it a thousand dollars. 428 00:14:50,810 --> 00:14:51,280 >> [sighs] 429 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,510 >> What's already been paid? 430 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,839 » But um 431 00:14:56,839 --> 00:14:58,720 I 432 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,160 So I'll I'll second that, sir. 433 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,000 Um wanted 434 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,520 Um yes, you're 435 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,800 John, you're all 436 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,280 nations abstaining, sir. 437 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,480 >> Yeah, and you're a no. 438 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,440 >> You're a no. 439 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,400 >> I'm a no. 440 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,240 >> You're a no and you're both yeses. 441 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,080 >> Yes. 442 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:13,880 >> Yeah. 443 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Got it. 444 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,480 >> So um 445 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Well, it's not 446 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:20,800 you know 447 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,720 you've paid for it, too. 448 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Thank you, Tim. 449 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,590 Thanks. 450 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,590 Is that right, Jack? 451 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,120 All right, item C is a resolution 452 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,960 providing for notice of hearing on 453 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,760 proposed plans, specifications, proposed 454 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,560 form of contract, and estimate of costs 455 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,160 for construction of Mary Ann's water 456 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,600 main extension project for September 8th 457 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,040 at 6:05 p.m. 458 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,200 Ready. 459 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,040 >> Good evening, Council. Yes, we're ready 460 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,960 to set the hearing on 461 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,000 Mary Ann's water main extension. 462 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,280 Uh prior to construction 463 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,160 of the facility at Mary Ann's Specialty 464 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,480 Foods, uh city staff and Mary Ann's, 465 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,080 Kelly Berleske, sat down and talked 466 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,080 about how to assist them with water 467 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,760 pressures and flows. And at that time, 468 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,640 uh we kind of came up with a joint uh 469 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,760 solution is to bring the water main 470 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,320 where it uh previously had dead ended on 471 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,200 the north side of their property all the 472 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,400 way to the west along the property line 473 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,080 back uh east along the railroad tracks 474 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,280 where it currently is dead ended. 475 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,360 Um and there that's what Here's where 476 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,640 our portion of of um 477 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,440 the project comes into play is where we 478 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,640 would then tie on to where they left off 479 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,400 uh under the railroad tracks into East 480 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,800 Second Street where it would become a 481 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,240 loop system. 482 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Um looping this system has plenty of uh 483 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,800 pros um 484 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,920 for them, you know, increase of 485 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,600 pressure, water pressure flows, uh but 486 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,560 also big thing is for pipe fire 487 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,200 prevention with the new building, stuff 488 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,480 like that. 489 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,160 On our end, something we look at is if 490 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,720 one of the facilities, uh Mary Ann's or 491 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,400 Custom Meats, would have to be shut down 492 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,960 for whatever reason, 493 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,960 um previously it would be we shut one of 494 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,720 them down, we shut both of them down. 495 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,640 And so that's not good for them for 496 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,000 uh a big manufacturer, a big business in 497 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,520 town. Uh we don't like doing that. And 498 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,040 so with this loop system, we will be 499 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,560 able to separate the two. So. 500 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,240 >> Okay. 501 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,360 So we're just setting a hearing. Any 502 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:20,240 discussion? 503 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,560 >> Motion to set a hearing. 504 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:22,439 >> Second. 505 00:17:22,439 --> 00:17:23,720 >> All in favor, say aye. 506 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,600 >> Aye. 507 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,959 >> Um item D, there's resolution 508 00:17:27,959 --> 00:17:29,720 authorizing the city manager to execute 509 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,640 a contract with Pliner Brothers Crushing 510 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,320 LLC for 2027 concrete crushing services. 511 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,440 >> Yes, so so kind of a yearly 512 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,200 um 513 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,040 thing we do. Last year, I know we we 514 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,520 kind of took some time off of this. We 515 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,880 had a lot of We had a big uh panel 516 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,560 replacement project that we had going 517 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,280 on, so we had a lot of material coming. 518 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,600 And so, this year, we decided to do 519 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,880 something different. Uh we decided to 520 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:58,200 work in collaboration with uh secondary roads with Ryan um with the 521 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,480 county engineer. Um he had a lot of 522 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,200 concrete that he needed crushed as well, 523 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,160 so we put two contracts together, worked 524 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,040 together, went out for one uh 525 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,160 quote bid. 526 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,800 And uh 527 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,320 got some can had three people um turn in 528 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,200 Mobile Crushing, who typically does our 529 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,520 crushing last several years, um uh 530 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,240 Pliner Brothers Crushing, and then 531 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,400 Maxim's Trucking Materials. 532 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,600 Um 533 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,000 it's kind of different, but uh several 534 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,760 years ago, we were at like $7.25, 535 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,000 and usually this goes the other 536 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,320 direction. I just talked to Matt this 537 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,280 morning with Mobile Crushing, 538 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,640 and I think they're just getting into a 539 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,480 bidding war, and we're down to $4. And 540 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,440 so, it's really good for us, 541 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,440 and so, um obviously, the rock that we 542 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,520 use is for projects, 543 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,760 um alleys, and all the biggest secondary 544 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,000 roads, so 545 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,360 uh we would recommend going with Pliner 546 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:50,720 Brothers Crushing, uh $4 a per ton with 547 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,920 zero uh cost of mobilization. 548 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,240 >> Interesting. 549 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,720 >> I appreciate that you worked together 550 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,040 with the county. I think that's a great 551 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:59,800 way to 552 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:00,960 >> Yeah, uh 553 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,320 we did Ryan and I have been talking 554 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,480 quite a bit lately on several things, so 555 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,040 um 556 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,160 kind of happened quick, and it went very 557 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:07,480 well. 558 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,870 >> Good. 559 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,360 » Thank you, Pliner. Yeah. 560 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:12,840 Vote for them motion. 561 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,160 >> Motion to approve. 562 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,960 >> I'll second. 563 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,510 >> All those in favor say I. 564 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,280 Item eight is a resolution approving the 565 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,800 purchase of a 2026 Vermeer AX17 brush 566 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,360 chipper from from Vermeer, Iowa for the 567 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:29,120 electric utility. 568 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:30,680 Ryan, good evening. 569 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,773 >> Good evening council. 570 00:19:33,773 --> 00:19:47,710 >> [laughter] 571 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,920 » Staff is requesting to purchase this 572 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,480 2026 573 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,280 AX17 brush chipper from Vermeer, Iowa. 574 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,750 With a net cost of $72,900. 575 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,960 We currently have a 2015 576 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,000 mobile art that we've had a lot of 577 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,280 clutch issues with. 578 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,720 And 579 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,200 that has become 580 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,200 an issue and currently has a bad clutch 581 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,320 in it. 582 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,360 With 583 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:18,320 the future of 584 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,120 us doing all this project upkeep and 585 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:26,720 road clearances and all that stuff, this 586 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,480 unit is going to get a lot of use in the 587 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,600 next 5 years just to get caught up. 588 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,120 >> Well, let's 589 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:36,000 >> Staff recommends approval of this 590 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,240 for the $72,900 591 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,274 plus tax. 592 00:20:39,274 --> 00:20:39,680 >> [snorts] 593 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,360 >> This is also set aside in the 5-year 594 00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:44,840 forecast of the um 595 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:45,760 electric [clears throat] 596 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,600 capital budget that you adopted earlier 597 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,120 this year. That page was included as 598 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:52,480 part of the packet material. 599 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,950 >> For the record, 600 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,880 can you explain for the record what a 601 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,360 brush chipper is? 602 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,400 >> I think I know. I'm fairly certain I 603 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,000 know, but Pat 604 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,320 might want to know. 605 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,120 >> I've heard of it, too. So 606 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:11,600 >> So the three chippers throw back to you. 607 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,200 >> What chips them? 608 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,640 >> That's what I thought, too, but I'm glad 609 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,040 >> If you've seen Fargo, you know what I 610 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,919 mean. 611 00:21:17,919 --> 00:21:18,200 >> [laughter] 612 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,240 >> Oh, that's a wood chipper, right? Okay. 613 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,160 >> Curious, you'd say oh, it's got clutch 614 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,080 issues. It's got clutch 615 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,840 >> It's not the use of it. 616 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,520 >> Have we spent quite a bit then trying to 617 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,440 repair this or have we repaired it 618 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,720 ourselves or 619 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,400 >> Uh we have had local company do it one 620 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,720 time and 621 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,200 um 622 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,400 I think 623 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,600 uh 624 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,240 company for 625 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,680 Obar did it the other time. 626 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,360 >> Okay. 627 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:45,720 >> But yeah, it's about $5,000 every time 628 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,880 that happens, so. 629 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,640 >> And we did discuss 630 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,000 um simply replacing the clutch. 631 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,635 Um 632 00:21:52,635 --> 00:21:52,800 >> [clears throat] 633 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,680 >> the we're we're at a uh tipping point 634 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,280 with the trade-in value, it seemed like 635 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,520 when we talked with the um 636 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,960 the uh 637 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,040 folks that we got the quotes from. 638 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,480 Uh and the manual clutch seems to be 639 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,440 problematic with the cruise. Not that 640 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,480 they can't operate them, but it just uh 641 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840 adds a complexity to a dangerous job 642 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,360 already. Uh if if I'm reading the 643 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:20,360 comments I've received from staff back 644 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:21,080 uh correctly. 645 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,040 >> It does have a few more safety 646 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,840 things than the last one I had. It has a 647 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,160 knee guard that that 648 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,160 you're getting sucked into the unit, it 649 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,040 will trip the unit off and 650 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,160 So, there is some extra safety involved 651 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:35,600 with it. 652 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,880 >> Now, I appreciate that. 653 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,040 >> Well, it's 11 years old. 654 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:38,400 >> Yeah. 655 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,240 >> So, you did you got a good run out of 656 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,240 it, so. 657 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,760 >> I'm also very curious, what's the 658 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,520 average life of one of these? I mean, 659 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,880 this one's 11 years old, so that's 660 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,160 great, but I'm just curious. 661 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,120 >> Yeah, I was going to ask if I was going 662 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,800 to ask that or longer. 663 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:52,600 >> Okay. 664 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,640 >> Well, we I do I pick a lot of or used to 665 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,040 pick a lot of them up for Asplund all 666 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,160 over the place, and most of them weren't 667 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,080 They were about 10 years old. So. 668 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,200 And they were a lot worse than this one, 669 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,040 but 670 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,520 I had to say whether they were them more 671 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,880 or less, you know. They probably were 672 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,280 doing the same thing you guys are doing, 673 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:08,960 so. 674 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,480 >> I'm excited to say this. Um, the motion 675 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,720 to approve the purchase of the vehicle 676 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,400 brush chipper. 677 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,680 >> Thanks, Ron. 678 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,000 Well, I'm going to have to say I. 679 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,920 >> I. 680 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,800 >> Uh, and then item F is a resolution 681 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,560 approving task order number nine with D 682 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,000 G and engineering professional 683 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,560 engineering services related to the city 684 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,640 city's municipal electric system arc 685 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,680 flash assessment update and authorizing 686 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600 city manager to execute the agreement. 687 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,360 >> Welcome back, Ron. 688 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:39,640 >> Yeah. 689 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,600 >> So, this is a request to approve task 690 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,000 order nine with the D G and R for the 691 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,960 lab arc flash assessment. The last time 692 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,920 this was done was back in 2015. It is 693 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,000 recommended to do it every five years. 694 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,720 It's an NFPA E standard. 695 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,000 Um, what it is is 696 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,291 >> What is that group? N N N E 697 00:24:04,291 --> 00:24:04,360 >> [clears throat] 698 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:06,040 >> What is What does that stand for? 699 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,000 >> National 700 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,680 >> Electric 701 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,720 >> It's fire protection or safety code. So, 702 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,720 it's kind of like your OSHA standards 703 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,520 and stuff like that. 704 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,600 Um 705 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,280 So, the 706 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,960 with this 707 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,920 um 708 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,000 it gives us the available arc flash 709 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600 ratings at different points in our 710 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,680 system. And with the last year's system 711 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,680 upgrades um, all that needs to be 712 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,880 updated uh, with the new Horizon or 713 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,600 substation and all that. And what this 714 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,560 does is let's city staff know the 715 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,040 appropriate um 716 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,520 person 717 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,480 personal protective equipment to wear 718 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,600 when you're in these certain areas. And 719 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,640 also like if 720 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,400 um 721 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,680 edible gardens, their engineers want to 722 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,480 know what the available fault current is 723 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,400 to design their equipment. It gives us 724 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,950 the tools to give them the right answer. 725 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,800 » It was last updated 10 years ago. 726 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Industry standard is occasionally 727 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,840 five. So 728 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,040 and it was recommended as part of the 729 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,120 broader [clears throat] capital plan 730 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,640 adopted by the 731 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,160 well, completed by DGR and that informs 732 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,320 our capital recommendations 733 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,560 to you all. I think the safety aspect of 734 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,640 this is considerable given that we've 735 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,960 added a new substation 736 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,360 and we'll continue to make improvements 737 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:35,390 to the system. 738 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,200 » Motion to approve. 739 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,480 >> Second. 740 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,920 >> All in favor say I. 741 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,750 >> Thanks, Ron. 742 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,120 » Item G is a resolution accepting and 743 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:47,600 approving acquisition of property 744 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,000 generally generally located at 1111 745 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,840 Third Street in the city of Webster 746 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,670 City, Hamilton County. 747 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,800 » So this property was deemed abandoned 748 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,280 and unsafe. So this is just a formality 749 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,480 that we 750 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,240 bring it to council to accept this 751 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,040 property. So 752 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,280 we have been into the property and it is 753 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,000 pretty um 754 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,400 pretty far past its useful life. So 755 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,160 >> This one have a lead line. 756 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,880 One of the properties 757 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,440 >> straight have a lead line in the roof. 758 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,800 It's across the road from that one we 759 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,760 had problem with you know where that 760 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,000 property 761 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,840 >> patch in the street there for years. 762 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:32,950 >> What is it worth? 763 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,360 » Motion to approve. 764 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:35,720 >> I'll second. 765 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,280 >> All in favor say I. 766 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,240 >> I. 767 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,280 >> Okay, are there other items to come? 768 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,680 Zach, I think you 769 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,040 want to tell us about your work. 770 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,440 >> love to. I would love to. Um 771 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,520 128 Apple's closed now. We got that 772 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,080 done. They've combined the lots. That's 773 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,800 the one where they have three years, But 774 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,080 um 775 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,680 little shed on it so our garage on it. 776 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,080 So that one's moving along nicely. 777 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,880 We just talked about 11th 11th 11th 3rd 778 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,728 Street. So with that sound. 779 00:27:05,728 --> 00:27:06,400 >> [laughter] 780 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,600 >> Um 11th 11th 3rd Street, that one's done 781 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,760 now. So it's taken a minute. We have 782 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,080 three more in the pipeline coming down 783 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,360 that you guys will probably own in the 784 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:17,080 next month as well. And then um 785 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,960 it's a bunch of FOIA requests, freedom 786 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,400 of information requests that we've been 787 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,360 receiving. So Beth and I and John and 788 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:23,520 city staff have been working on 789 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,720 responses to that and I just in the last 790 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,200 couple weeks we've been getting a 791 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,680 handful. So she's good, I guess. Might 792 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,160 get more tomorrow. People want to know 793 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,160 what's going on in town. 794 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,680 >> Question Question on the FOIA. Do we 795 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,560 charge them for copy and or do we 796 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,240 >> Um good question. So the answer is 797 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,440 maybe. Um 798 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,600 they changed the law in the last year on 799 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,280 FOIA. 800 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Yeah. So it's actual cost only and it's 801 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,200 supposed to be reasonable in the sense 802 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,920 of like if 803 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,760 they're simply asking for 804 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,640 something specific and it takes us 10 805 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,480 minutes to get it, we don't charge. If 806 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,800 it's something that's going to spend 807 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,400 hours, we are authorized to send them a 808 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,360 response that says, "Hey, we're 809 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:05,520 estimating this actual cost to be Y or 810 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,360 X, whatever." And then they can say yes 811 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,440 or no on it. So 812 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:09,840 >> Yeah. 813 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,680 >> And then copies and stuff like that. 814 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,400 >> Yeah. Yeah. But so far it's been pretty 815 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,040 >> Right. 816 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,480 >> Got it. 817 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,790 >> So 818 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,200 » Okay. 819 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,200 >> Move for motion to adjourn. 820 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,760 >> Motion to adjourn. 821 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,110 Second. 822 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:26,280 » All in favor say aye. 823 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,040 >> Aye. 824 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,040 >> We're adjourned. Thanks, everybody. 825 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,640 >> Thanks. Appreciate it.