[0:00] All right, I'll call the August 3rd City
[0:02] Council meeting to order.
[0:04] Call the roll.
[0:05] >> Ashley Allers, here. Abby Hanson, John
[0:07] Hawkins,
[0:08] >> Yeah.
[0:09] >> John Marvel,
[0:09] >> Here.
[0:10] >> Megan McFarland,
[0:11] >> Here.
[0:12] >> Pledge of Allegiance.
[0:15] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[0:18] United States of America,
[0:20] and to the republic for which it stands,
[0:22] one nation under God, indivisible, with
[0:25] liberty and justice for all.
[0:29] » Move for a motion to approve the agenda.
[0:31] Motion to approve.
[0:32] >> Second.
[0:33] >> All those in favor say aye.
[0:34] >> Aye.
[0:36] >> Uh
[0:37] Item one is petitions, communications,
[0:39] or requests. This is the time of the
[0:40] meeting that a citizen may address the
[0:41] council on a matter not on the agenda.
[0:43] No minute No more than 5 minutes per
[0:45] person, except in cases of emergency,
[0:47] the City Council not not take any action
[0:49] at this meeting, but our city staff to
[0:51] research the matter and have the matter
[0:52] placed on the agenda for a future
[0:54] meeting.
[0:55] Mark, you got something for us tonight?
[1:04] » Good evening. A few months ago, I just
[1:06] happened to talk to John.
[1:07] >> Tell us your name.
[1:08] >> Oh, Mark Gillette.
[1:11] Um stopped in and talked to John about
[1:13] real estate. I was only needing 10
[1:15] minutes, but it took us an hour and
[1:20] Um
[1:21] So, around 2008, the council
[1:23] [clears throat] was asked to increase
[1:25] the permits
[1:26] of connections for new construction uh
[1:30] for a 3/4 inch line
[1:32] for $1,600
[1:35] or for a 1-inch line
[1:37] Excuse me, $2,300. That was just the
[1:39] permit cost.
[1:42] Uh which is pretty anti-growth. Well,
[1:44] they
[1:46] in 2011, they rescinded that ordinance,
[1:49] going back to normal.
[1:50] So, around 2007, the council was asked
[1:53] to adopt the international building
[1:55] codes.
[1:56] The codes that the were the same as ours
[1:58] at the time, so there was really no
[1:59] problem. It passed 8 5 to 0.
[2:03] Unfortunately, they didn't tell us that
[2:04] every 2 years
[2:06] they increase the mortgage rates, more
[2:09] money.
[2:11] Uh
[2:15] So,
[2:16] a few years back before John's time
[2:18] here,
[2:19] um
[2:21] the manager
[2:22] and
[2:23] Daniel and
[2:25] the Yahoo you hired down in
[2:28] Des Moines or Polk County
[2:31] got together and they had the council
[2:33] change the ordinance.
[2:35] So, instead of costing 6 to 8,000
[2:38] dollars
[2:39] to put in water and sewer,
[2:40] it went to 18,000 because of these,
[2:43] which that can be rescinded also.
[2:46] We're going to be tearing down 75 of our
[2:48] lots, so we really If you want growth,
[2:50] you're not going to get it with 18,000
[2:52] dollars with all the infill lots we
[2:54] have.
[2:56] The other thing we talked about was
[2:58] granny houses
[3:00] and
[3:02] where you could tie on
[3:04] to the existing house if there's room
[3:08] for the water and sewer lines.
[3:09] Save thousands of dollars doing that,
[3:12] plus you could have either Airbnb, a
[3:14] small rental,
[3:16] or a granny house.
[3:18] Uh
[3:20] So, what I dropped off tonight for you
[3:22] is something to read.
[3:24] They have these
[3:26] little annexations in Cedar Rapids,
[3:29] Cedar Falls, Portland, Oregon, British
[3:32] Columbia, California and all kinds of
[3:35] Although, I think two years you can get
[3:36] the plans.
[3:38] Uh question.
[3:40] So, hopefully you consider it.
[3:42] Um I do have a lot next to my house,
[3:44] which I'd like to put in a sewer and
[3:46] water.
[3:47] Then I could sell it in the future if I
[3:49] wanted to.
[3:50] Um
[3:52] Or if I can't, cuz I'm not going to
[3:54] spend $18,000. If it's If they want to
[3:57] artificially up, that's that's crazy.
[4:00] So, I won't be building there.
[4:02] If I can, and you can change the
[4:04] ordinance, takes three of you
[4:05] to buy into my house, I'd already had a
[4:08] house built
[4:10] for a granny house or a Airbnb or just a
[4:13] family come stay, you know.
[4:16] So, give you something to think about.
[4:18] Hope you do.
[4:19] >> Yeah.
[4:19] >> Um
[4:20] >> Thanks, Knox.
[4:22] >> Nate Ball.
[4:23] Knoxville Ball.
[4:29] Knoxville
[4:33] » All right. Um
[4:35] is it close enough? Yeah, it's close
[4:37] enough.
[4:38] All right. Uh consent the following
[4:40] items have been deemed non-controversial
[4:42] routine actions to be approved by the
[4:43] council on a single motion. If a council
[4:45] member or member of the audience wishes
[4:47] to have an item removed from this list,
[4:48] it'll be considered on its normal
[4:49] sequence on the agenda.
[4:51] I have uh A is the minutes of July 20
[4:53] meeting.
[4:54] Um B is claims in the fund list. C is
[4:57] the issuance of a beer and liquor
[4:58] licenses by the Iowa Department of
[5:00] Commerce for uh recommended for the
[5:02] following. Approve new class C retail
[5:05] alcohol license including outdoor
[5:06] service for Wildcat Products at 713
[5:08] Second Street.
[5:10] Approve a new class C retail alcohol
[5:12] license for Now and Forever at 1102
[5:15] Second Street. And approve a new class C
[5:18] retail alcohol license for Now and
[5:19] Forever at
[5:20] 1803 Superior Street. That's uh formerly
[5:24] S Way.
[5:25] And then D is a resolution authorizing
[5:27] issuance of a cigarette, tobacco,
[5:29] nicotine, vapor device
[5:31] uh retail permits for Brewed Number
[5:34] Seven
[5:35] and Now and Forever formerly S Way at
[5:37] 1803 and 1102 Second Street and Superior Second Street.
[5:43] Uh E is a resolution and
[5:45] directing publication of gross wage
[5:47] salaries for the full-time and part-time
[5:49] city employees for the calendar year of
[5:51] 2025.
[5:52] That's it.
[5:53] >> Motion to approve collectively.
[5:56] >> Second.
[5:57] >> All in favor say aye.
[5:58] >> Aye.
[6:01] >> And then general agenda.
[6:03] We have a public hearing. Public hearing
[6:05] on a proposal to renew the citywide
[6:07] urban revitalization plan for
[6:08] residential tax abatement. I'll open the
[6:11] hearing.
[6:12] Are there any written objections?
[6:13] >> No, there are none.
[6:15] >> Are there any oral objections?
[6:18] Okay, I'll close the hearing.
[6:20] Very well, we're on time.
[6:23] >> I apologize.
[6:24] Good evening, Council. So, this item is
[6:28] just before you. The plan was adopted in
[6:31] 1993. What it does is on infill lots, it
[6:35] allows for 3 years of 100% tax abatement
[6:39] on new construction, and it does have to
[6:42] be reviewed every 3 years.
[6:44] We have had about 140 new dwellings that
[6:49] have had
[6:50] have taken advantage of this 100% 3-year
[6:53] tax abatement. And we actually just
[6:55] approved one at the last meeting, so
[6:57] that would move it to 141.
[7:00] The Planning and Zoning Commission did
[7:03] review this and recommended to the
[7:07] Council for it to be extended another 3
[7:09] years. So, tonight I'm just requesting
[7:11] that you approve the plan for another 3
[7:13] years.
[7:17] » Okay, any questions?
[7:19] Resolution adopting the continuance of
[7:22] the urban revitalization for residential
[7:24] tax abatement.
[7:25] >> Move to approve.
[7:26] >> Second. All in favor say aye.
[7:28] >> Aye.
[7:29] >> Um
[7:30] right. Would I come up?
[7:33] Do you want to
[7:35] talk on your request for the reduction
[7:38] [clears throat]
[7:39] lower the lot prices at 2501 North
[7:42] Terrace.
[7:46] » Yeah, I think
[7:47] I actually sent out an email and I
[7:48] apologize to John you went on the
[7:50] website so I didn't have your email
[7:52] address so
[7:52] >> There was a problem with my picture. So
[7:57] » So
[7:58] well anyway
[7:59] I laid laid out a lot of the points on
[8:02] this and and the one point that I forgot
[8:05] and left out of it was during the time
[8:07] that we did these constructions we had
[8:09] these up for sale. The city had been
[8:13] redoing the streets in that area and had
[8:15] it blocked off and made it very
[8:16] difficult to get to that area. So it was
[8:19] tough for people to even just drive
[8:20] around and see
[8:21] what was going on they couldn't even get
[8:23] to it very easily. So that contributed I
[8:26] think
[8:27] a factor to that.
[8:29] We did lose a sale
[8:31] on a house one of the houses out there
[8:34] when they did their budget they figured
[8:36] out the
[8:38] property taxes were
[8:41] you know quite a bit higher than what
[8:42] they expected so they they were not able
[8:45] to put it together with their budget so
[8:46] we lost that sale.
[8:48] And I imagine we'd have to talk to the
[8:49] realtor but I'm sure other people had
[8:51] the same situation when they looked at
[8:53] it. They combined that with
[8:55] the cost of lumber and and all
[8:58] construction materials going up and then
[9:01] and the environment of rates going up it
[9:04] really made it handicap hard to sell.
[9:07] There's few other factors you know
[9:09] there's a lot of lots out there on the
[9:11] west end that you guys have experienced
[9:13] for years hard to sell and
[9:15] a lot of that's directly related to the
[9:17] cost of the lot.
[9:19] You know they're not a wooded lot or
[9:21] real scenic you got the highway you're
[9:23] dealing with so there there's some
[9:25] challenges out there that you don't need
[9:27] to be addressed to help sell them and so
[9:30] with all those things combined with
[9:33] you know tough environment it made it
[9:36] very hard to sell houses. We We lost on
[9:39] average $34,000 a house is what we lost.
[9:42] Um this house here is in the same
[9:45] situation.
[9:46] Um especially when we've held it for
[9:48] over 2 years. So,
[9:50] makes it hard to do. Um and given the
[9:53] fact that
[9:54] the city is willing to incentivize other
[9:56] another builder to try to build out
[9:59] there, you know, I appreciate that and I think that's right step. But we'd like
[10:03] to have ours reduced down to a lower
[10:07] rate to help us
[10:08] uh
[10:09] absorb some of the losses we've taken on
[10:11] that. And also, you know, to
[10:14] make it more incentivized towards us
[10:16] building small houses in the future out
[10:18] there.
[10:19] Uh
[10:20] Getting close to it
[10:23] >> This specific lot, when did you um start
[10:25] construction? When did you sign the
[10:26] contract?
[10:28] >> I'd have to look. I believe it was 2023.
[10:31] >> 2023?
[10:33] >> That's what I found.
[10:34] >> Right. I looked up that I could not find
[10:35] it.
[10:36] >> Yeah, so
[10:38] 2023 and uh
[10:42] » And we paid
[10:42] >> full price on the other three lots that
[10:45] we did that. Uh Yeah, well, and and we
[10:47] carried them for quite some time to get
[10:49] them sold, but we did finally get them
[10:50] sold.
[10:51] >> Yeah.
[10:51] >> And with that and the other houses, uh I
[10:55] think you'll see we have contributed a
[10:57] large amount of uh
[11:00] tax base to the city over the last, you
[11:03] know, 6 8 years that we've been building
[11:05] here. So, we want to continue that. We
[11:08] need to try to address
[11:10] um
[11:11] you know, the costs so we can absorb
[11:13] those moving forward.
[11:16] >> [clears throat]
[11:17] >> And the house currently,
[11:19] uh I've driven by, I've heard two or
[11:21] three different things. The house has
[11:23] been sold?
[11:23] >> Yes.
[11:27] » Has that completely gone through? And
[11:29] that's final and that's
[11:30] >> Yeah, that's final.
[11:30] >> Okay.
[11:34] » So, I I will tell you all I'm not going
[11:37] to vote on this because I do work with
[11:38] Brian's wife very closely, um and I
[11:40] don't want that to be portrayed as a
[11:42] conflict of interest.
[11:44] But, you know, um John and I have
[11:47] talked. You you can tell me there's a
[11:48] contract in place cuz there is.
[11:50] Contracts get amended all the time. So,
[11:52] I'm I'm less concerned about there being
[11:54] a contract than anything else.
[11:56] Um I do think,
[11:58] you know, considering we're trying to
[12:00] build and expand the housing in Webster
[12:03] City and grow the tax base,
[12:05] that we did just allow this other
[12:08] company
[12:09] significantly different lot rates, and I
[12:11] think at this point it would be the
[12:13] right thing to do.
[12:15] Um I I realize this was several years
[12:18] ago. It's not like he signed it
[12:19] yesterday and now we're trying to change
[12:21] it. This was a couple years ago.
[12:23] Um different city administration, I
[12:25] think even possibly at that time.
[12:28] And so, while I'm not going to vote, I I
[12:30] would say it's something I think the
[12:32] council should seriously consider
[12:34] looking at the price.
[12:37] >> Um did did you did you say that we he's
[12:40] you've already paid a thousand for this
[12:42] lot, haven't you?
[12:44] >> Pardon?
[12:44] >> Is there Is there already a thousand
[12:45] paid for this lot?
[12:47] >> so.
[12:49] >> Um I mean, I'm I'm prepared to uh it
[12:51] seems you've already paid the thousand.
[12:53] I'm prepared to to call that good
[12:56] myself.
[12:57] Um I think you've you've done enough
[12:59] stuff. Uh do I like the idea that we're
[13:01] changing the contract now? No, no, I
[13:03] don't. But at the same time,
[13:05] I can see why you're asking and and
[13:07] we've we're doing a deal with somebody
[13:09] else, which is better than what you got.
[13:11] So, uh I'm I'm happy to do that, but I
[13:14] guess it's over to you, Megan. What do
[13:15] you think?
[13:16] >> I think that's a
[13:17] >> So, I I
[13:18] >> Go ahead. I'm sorry.
[13:19] >> I think that's a good idea, too.
[13:22] >> I appreciate everything you've done. And
[13:24] um
[13:26] you know, I am
[13:28] you know, if you would come to us this
[13:30] year and I think that that
[13:33] he would have been
[13:34] gotten a favorable, you know, price for
[13:36] those lots.
[13:37] I can't speak for the council then. I
[13:40] wasn't on the council.
[13:42] Um
[13:43] You know, I do
[13:46] and I know contracts have been amended.
[13:49] I worked in sports for 40 years and
[13:51] contracts get changed.
[13:53] I'm kind of of a different mind. I you
[13:56] know, I believe the contract is the
[13:58] contract and um
[14:01] I do recognize that you've done a lot
[14:04] for our community. So
[14:06] >> And I will say or remind you that we did
[14:10] in
[14:11] '23 or '24 bring a proposal to buy
[14:14] significantly more lots at a reduced
[14:16] price to the council and it was rejected
[14:19] at the time.
[14:19] >> Yeah, and
[14:21] so
[14:22] I think if you did that now and in the
[14:24] future, I think that you would find that
[14:27] you know, this council in terms of
[14:29] economic development and the shortage of
[14:32] housing, you know, would be more
[14:33] receptive to such a plan.
[14:36] >> Do what?
[14:37] Do you want to make [clears throat] a
[14:37] motion to make the first note?
[14:43] » Thanks, Brian.
[14:44] >> Thank you.
[14:46] >> I'll make a motion to
[14:49] make it a thousand dollars.
[14:50] >> [sighs]
[14:51] >> What's already been paid?
[14:55] » But um
[14:56] I
[14:58] So I'll I'll second that, sir.
[15:01] Um wanted
[15:03] Um yes, you're
[15:04] John, you're all
[15:05] nations abstaining, sir.
[15:07] >> Yeah, and you're a no.
[15:08] >> You're a no.
[15:09] >> I'm a no.
[15:10] >> You're a no and you're both yeses.
[15:12] >> Yes.
[15:13] >> Yeah.
[15:13] Got it.
[15:16] >> So um
[15:18] Well, it's not
[15:19] you know
[15:20] you've paid for it, too.
[15:22] Thank you, Tim.
[15:24] Thanks.
[15:27] Is that right, Jack?
[15:31] All right, item C is a resolution
[15:33] providing for notice of hearing on
[15:34] proposed plans, specifications, proposed
[15:36] form of contract, and estimate of costs
[15:38] for construction of Mary Ann's water
[15:40] main extension project for September 8th
[15:42] at 6:05 p.m.
[15:45] Ready.
[15:46] >> Good evening, Council. Yes, we're ready
[15:48] to set the hearing on
[15:49] Mary Ann's water main extension.
[15:53] Uh prior to construction
[15:55] of the facility at Mary Ann's Specialty
[15:57] Foods, uh city staff and Mary Ann's,
[16:00] Kelly Berleske, sat down and talked
[16:02] about how to assist them with water
[16:04] pressures and flows. And at that time,
[16:06] uh we kind of came up with a joint uh
[16:08] solution is to bring the water main
[16:10] where it uh previously had dead ended on
[16:14] the north side of their property all the
[16:16] way to the west along the property line
[16:19] back uh east along the railroad tracks
[16:22] where it currently is dead ended.
[16:24] Um and there that's what Here's where
[16:26] our portion of of um
[16:28] the project comes into play is where we
[16:30] would then tie on to where they left off
[16:33] uh under the railroad tracks into East
[16:35] Second Street where it would become a
[16:36] loop system.
[16:38] Um looping this system has plenty of uh
[16:40] pros um
[16:42] for them, you know, increase of
[16:44] pressure, water pressure flows, uh but
[16:47] also big thing is for pipe fire
[16:49] prevention with the new building, stuff
[16:51] like that.
[16:52] On our end, something we look at is if
[16:55] one of the facilities, uh Mary Ann's or
[16:57] Custom Meats, would have to be shut down
[16:59] for whatever reason,
[17:00] um previously it would be we shut one of
[17:02] them down, we shut both of them down.
[17:04] And so that's not good for them for
[17:06] uh a big manufacturer, a big business in
[17:09] town. Uh we don't like doing that. And
[17:11] so with this loop system, we will be
[17:13] able to separate the two. So.
[17:16] >> Okay.
[17:18] So we're just setting a hearing. Any
[17:19] discussion?
[17:20] >> Motion to set a hearing.
[17:21] >> Second.
[17:22] >> All in favor, say aye.
[17:23] >> Aye.
[17:25] >> Um item D, there's resolution
[17:27] authorizing the city manager to execute
[17:29] a contract with Pliner Brothers Crushing
[17:31] LLC for 2027 concrete crushing services.
[17:35] >> Yes, so so kind of a yearly
[17:37] um
[17:38] thing we do. Last year, I know we we
[17:40] kind of took some time off of this. We
[17:41] had a lot of We had a big uh panel
[17:43] replacement project that we had going
[17:45] on, so we had a lot of material coming.
[17:48] And so, this year, we decided to do
[17:50] something different. Uh we decided to
[17:52] work in collaboration with uh secondary roads with Ryan um with the
[17:58] county engineer. Um he had a lot of
[18:00] concrete that he needed crushed as well,
[18:02] so we put two contracts together, worked
[18:05] together, went out for one uh
[18:07] quote bid.
[18:08] And uh
[18:09] got some can had three people um turn in
[18:12] Mobile Crushing, who typically does our
[18:14] crushing last several years, um uh
[18:16] Pliner Brothers Crushing, and then
[18:18] Maxim's Trucking Materials.
[18:20] Um
[18:21] it's kind of different, but uh several
[18:24] years ago, we were at like $7.25,
[18:26] and usually this goes the other
[18:28] direction. I just talked to Matt this
[18:30] morning with Mobile Crushing,
[18:32] and I think they're just getting into a
[18:33] bidding war, and we're down to $4. And
[18:36] so, it's really good for us,
[18:38] and so, um obviously, the rock that we
[18:41] use is for projects,
[18:43] um alleys, and all the biggest secondary
[18:45] roads, so
[18:47] uh we would recommend going with Pliner
[18:48] Brothers Crushing, uh $4 a per ton with
[18:50] zero uh cost of mobilization.
[18:54] >> Interesting.
[18:56] >> I appreciate that you worked together
[18:57] with the county. I think that's a great
[18:59] way to
[18:59] >> Yeah, uh
[19:00] we did Ryan and I have been talking
[19:02] quite a bit lately on several things, so
[19:04] um
[19:05] kind of happened quick, and it went very
[19:07] well.
[19:07] >> Good.
[19:09] » Thank you, Pliner. Yeah.
[19:11] Vote for them motion.
[19:12] >> Motion to approve.
[19:14] >> I'll second.
[19:15] >> All those in favor say I.
[19:19] Item eight is a resolution approving the
[19:21] purchase of a 2026 Vermeer AX17 brush
[19:24] chipper from from Vermeer, Iowa for the
[19:27] electric utility.
[19:29] Ryan, good evening.
[19:30] >> Good evening council.
[19:33] >> [laughter]
[19:47] » Staff is requesting to purchase this
[19:49] 2026
[19:51] AX17 brush chipper from Vermeer, Iowa.
[19:55] With a net cost of $72,900.
[19:59] We currently have a 2015
[20:02] mobile art that we've had a lot of
[20:05] clutch issues with.
[20:08] And
[20:09] that has become
[20:11] an issue and currently has a bad clutch
[20:13] in it.
[20:15] With
[20:16] the future of
[20:18] us doing all this project upkeep and
[20:22] road clearances and all that stuff, this
[20:26] unit is going to get a lot of use in the
[20:28] next 5 years just to get caught up.
[20:32] >> Well, let's
[20:33] >> Staff recommends approval of this
[20:36] for the $72,900
[20:38] plus tax.
[20:39] >> [snorts]
[20:39] >> This is also set aside in the 5-year
[20:42] forecast of the um
[20:44] electric [clears throat]
[20:45] capital budget that you adopted earlier
[20:47] this year. That page was included as
[20:50] part of the packet material.
[20:52] >> For the record,
[20:56] can you explain for the record what a
[20:59] brush chipper is?
[21:01] >> I think I know. I'm fairly certain I
[21:03] know, but Pat
[21:06] might want to know.
[21:07] >> I've heard of it, too. So
[21:09] >> So the three chippers throw back to you.
[21:11] >> What chips them?
[21:13] >> That's what I thought, too, but I'm glad
[21:15] >> If you've seen Fargo, you know what I
[21:17] mean.
[21:17] >> [laughter]
[21:18] >> Oh, that's a wood chipper, right? Okay.
[21:20] >> Curious, you'd say oh, it's got clutch
[21:22] issues. It's got clutch
[21:23] >> It's not the use of it.
[21:24] >> Have we spent quite a bit then trying to
[21:26] repair this or have we repaired it
[21:28] ourselves or
[21:29] >> Uh we have had local company do it one
[21:33] time and
[21:34] um
[21:36] I think
[21:38] uh
[21:39] company for
[21:41] Obar did it the other time.
[21:42] >> Okay.
[21:43] >> But yeah, it's about $5,000 every time
[21:45] that happens, so.
[21:46] >> And we did discuss
[21:48] um simply replacing the clutch.
[21:51] Um
[21:52] >> [clears throat]
[21:52] >> the we're we're at a uh tipping point
[21:55] with the trade-in value, it seemed like
[21:57] when we talked with the um
[21:59] the uh
[22:00] folks that we got the quotes from.
[22:03] Uh and the manual clutch seems to be
[22:07] problematic with the cruise. Not that
[22:10] they can't operate them, but it just uh
[22:12] adds a complexity to a dangerous job
[22:14] already. Uh if if I'm reading the
[22:18] comments I've received from staff back
[22:20] uh correctly.
[22:21] >> It does have a few more safety
[22:24] things than the last one I had. It has a
[22:25] knee guard that that
[22:28] you're getting sucked into the unit, it
[22:30] will trip the unit off and
[22:33] So, there is some extra safety involved
[22:35] with it.
[22:35] >> Now, I appreciate that.
[22:36] >> Well, it's 11 years old.
[22:38] >> Yeah.
[22:38] >> So, you did you got a good run out of
[22:40] it, so.
[22:41] >> I'm also very curious, what's the
[22:42] average life of one of these? I mean,
[22:44] this one's 11 years old, so that's
[22:45] great, but I'm just curious.
[22:48] >> Yeah, I was going to ask if I was going
[22:50] to ask that or longer.
[22:51] >> Okay.
[22:52] >> Well, we I do I pick a lot of or used to
[22:54] pick a lot of them up for Asplund all
[22:56] over the place, and most of them weren't
[22:58] They were about 10 years old. So.
[23:01] And they were a lot worse than this one,
[23:03] but
[23:04] I had to say whether they were them more
[23:05] or less, you know. They probably were
[23:06] doing the same thing you guys are doing,
[23:08] so.
[23:08] >> I'm excited to say this. Um, the motion
[23:11] to approve the purchase of the vehicle
[23:13] brush chipper.
[23:16] >> Thanks, Ron.
[23:18] Well, I'm going to have to say I.
[23:20] >> I.
[23:20] >> Uh, and then item F is a resolution
[23:22] approving task order number nine with D
[23:25] G and engineering professional
[23:27] engineering services related to the city
[23:29] city's municipal electric system arc
[23:31] flash assessment update and authorizing
[23:33] city manager to execute the agreement.
[23:36] >> Welcome back, Ron.
[23:37] >> Yeah.
[23:39] >> So, this is a request to approve task
[23:41] order nine with the D G and R for the
[23:44] lab arc flash assessment. The last time
[23:46] this was done was back in 2015. It is
[23:50] recommended to do it every five years.
[23:54] It's an NFPA E standard.
[23:57] Um, what it is is
[24:01] >> What is that group? N N N E
[24:04] >> [clears throat]
[24:04] >> What is What does that stand for?
[24:06] >> National
[24:07] >> Electric
[24:08] >> It's fire protection or safety code. So,
[24:11] it's kind of like your OSHA standards
[24:13] and stuff like that.
[24:16] Um
[24:18] So, the
[24:20] with this
[24:21] um
[24:23] it gives us the available arc flash
[24:26] ratings at different points in our
[24:28] system. And with the last year's system
[24:31] upgrades um, all that needs to be
[24:34] updated uh, with the new Horizon or
[24:36] substation and all that. And what this
[24:38] does is let's city staff know the
[24:41] appropriate um
[24:45] person
[24:46] personal protective equipment to wear
[24:48] when you're in these certain areas. And
[24:51] also like if
[24:53] um
[24:54] edible gardens, their engineers want to
[24:56] know what the available fault current is
[24:59] to design their equipment. It gives us
[25:01] the tools to give them the right answer.
[25:05] » It was last updated 10 years ago.
[25:08] Industry standard is occasionally
[25:11] five. So
[25:13] and it was recommended as part of the
[25:16] broader [clears throat] capital plan
[25:17] adopted by the
[25:19] well, completed by DGR and that informs
[25:22] our capital recommendations
[25:24] to you all. I think the safety aspect of
[25:26] this is considerable given that we've
[25:28] added a new substation
[25:30] and we'll continue to make improvements
[25:32] to the system.
[25:35] » Motion to approve.
[25:37] >> Second.
[25:38] >> All in favor say I.
[25:40] >> Thanks, Ron.
[25:43] » Item G is a resolution accepting and
[25:46] approving acquisition of property
[25:47] generally generally located at 1111
[25:50] Third Street in the city of Webster
[25:51] City, Hamilton County.
[25:57] » So this property was deemed abandoned
[26:00] and unsafe. So this is just a formality
[26:03] that we
[26:04] bring it to council to accept this
[26:06] property. So
[26:08] we have been into the property and it is
[26:12] pretty um
[26:14] pretty far past its useful life. So
[26:17] >> This one have a lead line.
[26:19] One of the properties
[26:19] >> straight have a lead line in the roof.
[26:22] It's across the road from that one we
[26:23] had problem with you know where that
[26:24] property
[26:25] >> patch in the street there for years.
[26:26] >> What is it worth?
[26:32] » Motion to approve.
[26:34] >> I'll second.
[26:35] >> All in favor say I.
[26:37] >> I.
[26:39] >> Okay, are there other items to come?
[26:41] Zach, I think you
[26:42] want to tell us about your work.
[26:44] >> love to. I would love to. Um
[26:47] 128 Apple's closed now. We got that
[26:49] done. They've combined the lots. That's
[26:51] the one where they have three years, But
[26:54] um
[26:56] little shed on it so our garage on it.
[26:57] So that one's moving along nicely.
[27:00] We just talked about 11th 11th 11th 3rd
[27:01] Street. So with that sound.
[27:05] >> [laughter]
[27:06] >> Um 11th 11th 3rd Street, that one's done
[27:08] now. So it's taken a minute. We have
[27:09] three more in the pipeline coming down
[27:12] that you guys will probably own in the
[27:13] next month as well. And then um
[27:17] it's a bunch of FOIA requests, freedom
[27:18] of information requests that we've been
[27:20] receiving. So Beth and I and John and
[27:22] city staff have been working on
[27:23] responses to that and I just in the last
[27:25] couple weeks we've been getting a
[27:27] handful. So she's good, I guess. Might
[27:29] get more tomorrow. People want to know
[27:31] what's going on in town.
[27:32] >> Question Question on the FOIA. Do we
[27:33] charge them for copy and or do we
[27:36] >> Um good question. So the answer is
[27:39] maybe. Um
[27:41] they changed the law in the last year on
[27:43] FOIA.
[27:44] Yeah. So it's actual cost only and it's
[27:46] supposed to be reasonable in the sense
[27:48] of like if
[27:50] they're simply asking for
[27:52] something specific and it takes us 10
[27:54] minutes to get it, we don't charge. If
[27:56] it's something that's going to spend
[27:57] hours, we are authorized to send them a
[28:00] response that says, "Hey, we're
[28:02] estimating this actual cost to be Y or
[28:05] X, whatever." And then they can say yes
[28:07] or no on it. So
[28:09] >> Yeah.
[28:09] >> And then copies and stuff like that.
[28:11] >> Yeah. Yeah. But so far it's been pretty
[28:13] >> Right.
[28:14] >> Got it.
[28:14] >> So
[28:16] » Okay.
[28:18] >> Move for motion to adjourn.
[28:20] >> Motion to adjourn.
[28:21] Second.
[28:25] » All in favor say aye.
[28:26] >> Aye.
[28:27] >> We're adjourned. Thanks, everybody.
[28:29] >> Thanks. Appreciate it.