1 00:00:36,467 --> 00:00:37,066 No, not 2 00:00:42,166 --> 00:00:43,867 not too many shrimp in our hi Colette. 3 00:00:44,934 --> 00:00:45,033 Hi. 4 00:00:46,867 --> 00:00:46,867 I 5 00:00:48,266 --> 00:00:48,900 can you hear me? 6 00:00:48,900 --> 00:00:49,033 Okay. 7 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:50,066 Mm-hmm . 8 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:51,000 Yep. 9 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,100 Okay. 10 00:00:51,100 --> 00:00:51,333 Good. 11 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:57,266 Good afternoon, everybody I'd like to call to order the select board meeting of 12 00:00:57,734 --> 00:00:59,900 September 23rd, 2026. 13 00:01:00,567 --> 00:01:02,100 In the Giuliani room at town hall. 14 00:01:04,166 --> 00:01:05,867 The meeting is being held in hybrid. 15 00:01:06,667 --> 00:01:11,166 Form format broadcast live on Comcast channel eight and Verizon channel 40. 16 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,100 And available for later viewing on Wellesley media.org. 17 00:01:16,033 --> 00:01:19,066 Select board members here are Tom Felder. 18 00:01:19,066 --> 00:01:19,567 Vice-chair. 19 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:22,867 Secretary Collette of Frank joining us via. 20 00:01:23,634 --> 00:01:26,033 Zoom Beth Sullivan woods and Kenny largest. 21 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:27,734 And I'm Marjorie Fryman. 22 00:01:28,767 --> 00:01:33,100 Also here with us, our executive director, Megan JOP, and assistant executive director. 23 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:34,567 Corey Tesa. 24 00:01:35,567 --> 00:01:38,667 I don't think we have anyone here for citizen speak. 25 00:01:39,634 --> 00:01:41,033 So we'll turn to Megan, please. 26 00:01:41,033 --> 00:01:43,033 For the executive director's update. 27 00:01:45,166 --> 00:01:46,867 I don't have much of an update today, Marg. 28 00:01:48,033 --> 00:01:48,033 Marjorie. 29 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:52,667 Oh, oh, the only thing I just remind folks to register for the October 1st 30 00:01:52,700 --> 00:01:53,500 north, north. 31 00:01:55,166 --> 00:01:55,867 Charette. 32 00:01:56,066 --> 00:01:58,900 And you can do that online at the town's website. 33 00:01:59,834 --> 00:02:03,066 And if you haven't heard the charette has been moved to the high school 34 00:02:03,166 --> 00:02:04,500 from the Honeywell school. 35 00:02:06,433 --> 00:02:08,734 Next, not this weekend, but next weekend. 36 00:02:09,700 --> 00:02:11,333 Is discover Wellesley the merchant event. 37 00:02:11,634 --> 00:02:14,266 So we would encourage people to go out Friday and Saturday. 38 00:02:15,066 --> 00:02:17,133 Parking is waived and the merchants have planned. 39 00:02:18,100 --> 00:02:19,433 A lot of exciting activities. 40 00:02:20,467 --> 00:02:21,100 Thank you, Beth. 41 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:25,100 Our next agenda item is the consent agenda. 42 00:02:25,467 --> 00:02:28,667 We have five items on the consent agenda this afternoon. 43 00:02:29,533 --> 00:02:32,533 To reappoint a member to the Wellesley cultural council. 44 00:02:33,634 --> 00:02:34,867 To vote to purchase. 45 00:02:35,634 --> 00:02:38,066 Seasonal wreaths for the downtown commercial areas. 46 00:02:39,066 --> 00:02:44,066 Areas to vote two, one day alcohol licenses for the Wellesley historical society. 47 00:02:44,934 --> 00:02:45,533 For fall event 48 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:48,100 to vote the warrant for the national. 49 00:02:49,133 --> 00:02:51,367 Election for the state election on Tuesday. 50 00:02:52,166 --> 00:02:54,066 November 3rd, 2026. 51 00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:55,333 And to vote. 52 00:02:55,333 --> 00:02:57,333 Brandon Schmidt, NRC director. 53 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:02,300 As the local government representative for clean energy sighting and permitting. 54 00:03:04,367 --> 00:03:06,000 Colette, may I have a motion please? 55 00:03:07,133 --> 00:03:08,767 Move to approve the consent agenda. 56 00:03:09,533 --> 00:03:09,734 Second 57 00:03:10,333 --> 00:03:10,900 Colette. 58 00:03:12,033 --> 00:03:13,100 I Kenny, I 59 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:14,133 Beth.Aye. 60 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:15,734 And I vote aye as well. 61 00:03:16,033 --> 00:03:16,433 And I do. 62 00:03:16,634 --> 00:03:17,433 Oh, sorry, Tom. 63 00:03:18,667 --> 00:03:21,166 I heard you say second and I forgot to get your vote. 64 00:03:21,233 --> 00:03:22,000 Sorry about. 65 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:22,300 That. 66 00:03:23,066 --> 00:03:23,367 Okay. 67 00:03:24,734 --> 00:03:25,900 Moving right along. 68 00:03:30,467 --> 00:03:32,333 Just gotta get to the rec the right page. 69 00:03:33,133 --> 00:03:33,367 Okay. 70 00:03:33,467 --> 00:03:37,266 Our next agenda item is to discuss and vote the Cochituate aqueduct. 71 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:40,266 Aqueduct access license for 16 Laurel avenue. 72 00:03:41,934 --> 00:03:42,033 And 73 00:03:43,667 --> 00:03:46,834 we have attorney David Berger here with us. 74 00:03:52,066 --> 00:03:54,066 Megan, would you like to introduce it? 75 00:03:54,233 --> 00:03:54,567 Sure. 76 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:56,000 So 77 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:02,767 16 lower lab project is converting an existing building to residential with a, an 78 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:03,066 addition. 79 00:04:04,033 --> 00:04:06,000 This is one of the town's first, M B T. 80 00:04:07,066 --> 00:04:08,900 T a community projects that we'll be going forward. 81 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:12,900 This project has gone through site plan review, 82 00:04:13,467 --> 00:04:15,867 and is essentially a permitted project at this point. 83 00:04:16,767 --> 00:04:18,367 Prior to construction the 84 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:20,300 applicants worked. 85 00:04:21,533 --> 00:04:23,166 As a requirement of the, the site plan. 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,667 With the engineering division. 87 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:29,634 For location of utilities, waterline. 88 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,033 And as part of that, 89 00:04:33,133 --> 00:04:35,734 given the very close proximity to the town's aqueduct. 90 00:04:35,767 --> 00:04:36,166 We're only. 91 00:04:37,433 --> 00:04:37,667 Inches 92 00:04:38,266 --> 00:04:40,767 from the property line where the, the existing building is. 93 00:04:41,700 --> 00:04:42,333 So looking at 94 00:04:43,100 --> 00:04:46,166 actual constructability and looking at from a safety perspective. 95 00:04:47,066 --> 00:04:47,867 Access to do that 96 00:04:48,634 --> 00:04:50,100 in addition and on inspection. 97 00:04:51,066 --> 00:04:52,500 Of the aqueduct, that particular section. 98 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,100 The town identified that there was some installations that were. 99 00:04:59,066 --> 00:04:59,033 In 100 00:04:59,734 --> 00:05:03,033 put on at some point likely in 20, 19, 20, 20. 101 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,100 Which included, you know, a flagpole, some lights. 102 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:10,433 And those would be removed as part of this. 103 00:05:11,433 --> 00:05:14,100 Given this as an M B T a project, we also have worked with 104 00:05:14,100 --> 00:05:14,767 the applicant. 105 00:05:15,634 --> 00:05:17,333 And I do believe Jeff is also. 106 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:19,567 On zoom as well. 107 00:05:20,367 --> 00:05:21,834 From pioneer construction. 108 00:05:23,900 --> 00:05:28,266 And so we've worked with them too, to look at creating redoing sort of 109 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:30,100 a path to connect the two roads. 110 00:05:31,066 --> 00:05:34,834 Which then would get from Laurel to Prescott, which then would get you closer 111 00:05:34,867 --> 00:05:35,634 to the MBTA. 112 00:05:37,033 --> 00:05:41,000 And so with that, we have a license agreement for them to. 113 00:05:42,467 --> 00:05:44,767 Access proportion the back end of the. 114 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:45,834 Aqueduct 115 00:05:46,433 --> 00:05:49,767 for construction and, and David, I don't know if you wanna add to that 116 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:53,033 Thank you. 117 00:05:53,033 --> 00:05:55,000 Megan, David Hemel, Berger representing 118 00:05:55,667 --> 00:05:57,066 Babson house, LLC. 119 00:05:57,100 --> 00:05:58,033 The record owner. 120 00:05:59,066 --> 00:06:00,300 And as you mentioned, Jeff Birnbaum, 121 00:06:01,133 --> 00:06:02,500 the principal is on as well. 122 00:06:03,734 --> 00:06:04,100 So, yes. 123 00:06:05,533 --> 00:06:07,133 The aqueduct parcel runs 124 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:09,567 skewed at an angle past 125 00:06:10,533 --> 00:06:11,567 my client's property. 126 00:06:12,133 --> 00:06:13,567 And there is a portion that is. 127 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:16,033 Very close as Megan indicated inches. 128 00:06:17,033 --> 00:06:17,634 We met. 129 00:06:19,233 --> 00:06:22,166 For about an hour and a half with Dave Hickey at engineering. 130 00:06:23,066 --> 00:06:24,367 To review all of 131 00:06:25,133 --> 00:06:26,100 engineering and D P w. 132 00:06:27,066 --> 00:06:27,066 Concerns 133 00:06:28,333 --> 00:06:30,133 regarding how we would do that. 134 00:06:33,333 --> 00:06:38,066 Was a suggestion, which we agreed to, that we, in addition to providing an 135 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:40,533 as-built for our foundation, which is. 136 00:06:41,333 --> 00:06:42,500 The portion above the ground 137 00:06:43,166 --> 00:06:45,867 would also provide an as-built for the footings, 138 00:06:46,433 --> 00:06:49,333 just to confirm that our footings are not intru. 139 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:51,100 Intruding onto the town land. 140 00:06:52,867 --> 00:06:55,166 We have a designated area. 141 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,066 That was, is on. 142 00:06:58,667 --> 00:07:00,734 Attachment a, to the license that shows. 143 00:07:01,734 --> 00:07:05,634 The discreet area where we are in, in very close proximity. 144 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:08,133 Additionally 145 00:07:09,567 --> 00:07:10,433 there was a 146 00:07:11,867 --> 00:07:13,433 an existing walkway. 147 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:17,500 That extends from Laurel F to Prescott street. 148 00:07:18,467 --> 00:07:18,500 That 149 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:22,000 again, because the properties are not parallel. 150 00:07:23,066 --> 00:07:23,533 It crosses. 151 00:07:25,133 --> 00:07:27,133 16, Laurel, and then goes out onto. 152 00:07:28,433 --> 00:07:31,433 The townland before returning onto 16 Laurel. 153 00:07:32,166 --> 00:07:34,166 And so during the site plan review, 154 00:07:35,166 --> 00:07:38,667 process the applicant agreed to relocate. 155 00:07:39,634 --> 00:07:41,266 That walkway, if you will. 156 00:07:42,233 --> 00:07:44,433 Fully onto the town's land. 157 00:07:46,033 --> 00:07:48,100 And Sheila page from mobility. 158 00:07:49,133 --> 00:07:50,066 Well, the, you know, 159 00:07:51,433 --> 00:07:54,300 also weighed in and the agreement was to. 160 00:07:55,867 --> 00:07:56,300 Construct the 161 00:07:58,300 --> 00:08:00,367 sidewalk based upon D P w plans. 162 00:08:01,333 --> 00:08:01,667 Plans in a 163 00:08:02,266 --> 00:08:03,834 somewhat meandering fashion. 164 00:08:04,567 --> 00:08:08,033 So is to avoid any of the existing trees or shrubs that are there 165 00:08:09,166 --> 00:08:11,834 Additionally, there is a, a monument. 166 00:08:13,533 --> 00:08:13,867 On the ground, 167 00:08:15,133 --> 00:08:18,734 roughly three by five feet in dimension. 168 00:08:18,734 --> 00:08:19,500 That's probably. 169 00:08:20,634 --> 00:08:21,100 18 inches. 170 00:08:22,867 --> 00:08:24,834 Tall sitting on the ground at a bit of an angle. 171 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:27,734 That commemorates, the fact that this was. 172 00:08:28,667 --> 00:08:30,100 Babson reports and 173 00:08:32,133 --> 00:08:36,533 the, the history of the building and it sits literally on the property line 174 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:38,433 And so we agreed to. 175 00:08:39,066 --> 00:08:40,266 Move that onto the town's 176 00:08:41,133 --> 00:08:42,100 property as well. 177 00:08:43,133 --> 00:08:44,300 There are a number of, of. 178 00:08:45,133 --> 00:08:45,266 Specific 179 00:08:46,433 --> 00:08:51,367 elements that are outlined in the license agreement, all of which were reviewed with 180 00:08:52,166 --> 00:08:52,900 Dave Hickey. 181 00:08:54,867 --> 00:08:56,333 Town as importantly town council. 182 00:08:57,767 --> 00:09:01,000 And I believe we have an agreed upon license agreement. 183 00:09:02,033 --> 00:09:02,734 For your 184 00:09:03,867 --> 00:09:04,066 approval. 185 00:09:05,133 --> 00:09:05,333 Respectfully 186 00:09:07,300 --> 00:09:08,900 do board members have any questions? 187 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:10,033 Questions Beth. 188 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:11,266 So 189 00:09:12,133 --> 00:09:14,500 I guess, are we approving this retro? 190 00:09:15,233 --> 00:09:17,634 Retroactively, because it appears that. 191 00:09:19,367 --> 00:09:20,166 Much of the 192 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:22,834 work has occurred and the. 193 00:09:23,634 --> 00:09:26,333 Area is sealed off that walkway is not accessible anymore. 194 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:28,000 So, 195 00:09:28,767 --> 00:09:29,066 no, 196 00:09:29,934 --> 00:09:34,100 the walkway that's sealed off is the portion that's on 16 Laurel. 197 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:35,500 There is, 198 00:09:36,066 --> 00:09:37,133 it's my understanding there. 199 00:09:38,433 --> 00:09:39,066 Where the 200 00:09:41,133 --> 00:09:42,367 property is in proximity 201 00:09:43,266 --> 00:09:46,100 to the townland that there is construction fencing. 202 00:09:46,100 --> 00:09:46,634 And so. 203 00:09:47,634 --> 00:09:50,300 That piece is in existence currently. 204 00:09:51,066 --> 00:09:51,433 But the 205 00:09:53,467 --> 00:09:55,734 there hasn't been a ceiling off of. 206 00:09:56,734 --> 00:09:58,266 The town land per se. 207 00:09:58,433 --> 00:09:59,266 It's the. 208 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,133 16, Laurel. 209 00:10:02,300 --> 00:10:04,333 Has the start of the walkway on it. 210 00:10:04,533 --> 00:10:06,433 And so the construction fencing is around. 211 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:10,266 If I understand it correctly, I couldn't find the flagpole. 212 00:10:10,667 --> 00:10:10,667 Today. 213 00:10:11,166 --> 00:10:15,033 So the flagpole is on the far side, closer to Prescott. 214 00:10:15,367 --> 00:10:15,533 I. 215 00:10:16,367 --> 00:10:17,033 Do you think it's gone? 216 00:10:18,667 --> 00:10:19,066 I think it's gone. 217 00:10:19,033 --> 00:10:19,133 I. 218 00:10:21,634 --> 00:10:22,166 I mean, it was out there. 219 00:10:22,166 --> 00:10:22,867 Not that long ago. 220 00:10:22,867 --> 00:10:23,634 I have questions on that. 221 00:10:24,467 --> 00:10:25,000 the flag. 222 00:10:25,133 --> 00:10:26,900 The flag is gone, but the pole's still there. 223 00:10:28,367 --> 00:10:28,734 Okay. 224 00:10:28,834 --> 00:10:29,000 Yeah. 225 00:10:31,634 --> 00:10:32,100 Anything else, Beth? 226 00:10:32,734 --> 00:10:34,266 I, I, a couple other things. 227 00:10:36,033 --> 00:10:37,333 So this is 18. 228 00:10:37,467 --> 00:10:38,100 Well, the. 229 00:10:38,867 --> 00:10:43,066 Entire pathway be closed to public access during the construction. 230 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:45,634 You know, like, can you. 231 00:10:46,467 --> 00:10:48,133 Cut from Prescott to Laurel. 232 00:10:49,133 --> 00:10:51,066 Currently on town land safely. 233 00:10:52,233 --> 00:10:54,066 Yes, but you'd be walking on grass. 234 00:10:55,533 --> 00:10:55,867 Okay. 235 00:10:57,100 --> 00:10:59,533 And that's how long is this work supposed to last? 236 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,166 I would ask Mr. Bierbaum is this 18 months? 237 00:11:05,033 --> 00:11:06,767 Eight 18 months, roughly? 238 00:11:07,033 --> 00:11:07,100 Yes. 239 00:11:08,767 --> 00:11:09,767 And this agreement. 240 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,367 Covers the entire duration. 241 00:11:12,433 --> 00:11:13,100 So if it goes. 242 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:14,533 24 months, 243 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:17,033 we have the ability to say. 244 00:11:18,100 --> 00:11:18,100 Yes. 245 00:11:18,734 --> 00:11:20,033 And, and the only other. 246 00:11:20,767 --> 00:11:22,066 Kind of time. 247 00:11:23,066 --> 00:11:26,100 Sensitive piece is that the walkway has to be. 248 00:11:27,367 --> 00:11:28,533 Constructed prior to 249 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,367 the first granting of any certificate of occupancy, be it partial, 250 00:11:34,033 --> 00:11:34,300 temporary. 251 00:11:34,333 --> 00:11:35,066 What have you. 252 00:11:35,867 --> 00:11:36,500 So, okay. 253 00:11:37,533 --> 00:11:41,433 I was not clear why we're not reinstalling the flagpole on townland. 254 00:11:42,567 --> 00:11:45,100 I, I, it's a, it's a maintenance issue essentially. 255 00:11:45,567 --> 00:11:45,900 Yeah. 256 00:11:45,934 --> 00:11:46,367 It's not. 257 00:11:47,333 --> 00:11:48,300 Clear to me. 258 00:11:48,367 --> 00:11:52,066 I think it was it's possible that it was installed by Babson reports. 259 00:11:53,367 --> 00:11:56,033 When they owned the building, understanding it was installed after. 260 00:11:56,934 --> 00:11:58,033 Arnold Haynes passed away 261 00:11:58,533 --> 00:11:59,100 as a. 262 00:12:01,266 --> 00:12:02,333 That's my understanding. 263 00:12:03,233 --> 00:12:07,066 But didn't he just pass away in the last 2017. 264 00:12:10,667 --> 00:12:10,700 It's it's 265 00:12:11,367 --> 00:12:12,300 possible, but, but. 266 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:16,300 I don't know, but could we put the flagpole back up? 267 00:12:18,266 --> 00:12:20,000 I, it just seems to me, we shouldn't be. 268 00:12:21,066 --> 00:12:22,333 Removing flagpoles. 269 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:24,900 Well, it was 270 00:12:26,300 --> 00:12:26,734 installed without, 271 00:12:27,567 --> 00:12:28,367 I mean, it is townland. 272 00:12:28,367 --> 00:12:30,100 It was installed without permit. 273 00:12:30,533 --> 00:12:32,533 There was electricity run to it without. 274 00:12:33,333 --> 00:12:33,333 Permit. 275 00:12:33,533 --> 00:12:33,834 So 276 00:12:34,367 --> 00:12:38,433 we would look at it currently as a encroachment on townland. 277 00:12:39,433 --> 00:12:40,133 It would be additional, 278 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,900 you know, I think D P w was looking at it for removal because 279 00:12:43,934 --> 00:12:45,066 it was it's additional. 280 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:46,734 Maintenance mm-hmm 281 00:12:47,433 --> 00:12:51,734 it's not particularly visible now in the fact that you have the Wellesley. 282 00:12:53,433 --> 00:12:54,033 Women's 283 00:12:54,867 --> 00:12:54,900 women's well, 284 00:12:55,867 --> 00:12:58,333 medical office building on Washington street. 285 00:12:59,233 --> 00:13:01,367 Effectively blocks the view of it. 286 00:13:02,133 --> 00:13:05,066 The only view is when you get down Prescott street, 287 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:07,333 but 288 00:13:08,166 --> 00:13:11,734 may may I suggest that that's an issue that can be part of some 289 00:13:11,734 --> 00:13:13,033 continued conversations. 290 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:15,433 It shouldn't hold up our approval of this license. 291 00:13:15,634 --> 00:13:16,033 And if somebody. 292 00:13:16,567 --> 00:13:18,734 Wants to put it up, they could apply to put it up. 293 00:13:19,834 --> 00:13:20,033 Right.It's town land. 294 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:21,333 It's on town land, right? 295 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:25,634 Oh, well, we were only taking it down because we were requested to take 296 00:13:25,634 --> 00:13:25,867 it down. 297 00:13:26,033 --> 00:13:26,133 Okay. 298 00:13:26,533 --> 00:13:27,867 Well, I think Tom's right. 299 00:13:27,867 --> 00:13:30,033 That's not really the issue of the license. 300 00:13:30,667 --> 00:13:31,000 Agreement right now. 301 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:35,567 Yeah, the license agreement is for construction. 302 00:13:36,367 --> 00:13:38,533 Access onto the aqueduct for construction purpose 303 00:13:39,467 --> 00:13:42,066 and to allow for them to reconstruct. 304 00:13:43,066 --> 00:13:45,433 Construct well to do some of the tie outs on the waterline and then 305 00:13:45,433 --> 00:13:46,900 to reconstruct the path. 306 00:13:47,100 --> 00:13:47,266 Yeah. 307 00:13:47,266 --> 00:13:48,000 That's the other point 308 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:50,367 during Cy plan approval. 309 00:13:51,433 --> 00:13:56,834 D P w water department asked whether we would, the client would be willing 310 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,133 to allow the town to run a. 311 00:13:59,834 --> 00:14:03,166 Waterline from the end of Prescott, which is a dead end waterline, which they 312 00:14:04,767 --> 00:14:05,266 Disfavor 313 00:14:06,133 --> 00:14:07,000 significantly. 314 00:14:07,834 --> 00:14:09,867 And connect over to Laurel Ave. 315 00:14:09,867 --> 00:14:10,867 So that there'd be a loop. 316 00:14:11,634 --> 00:14:12,333 And we agreed. 317 00:14:13,166 --> 00:14:14,000 Yes, of course. 318 00:14:14,333 --> 00:14:16,133 We're happy to give you an easement to run it. 319 00:14:16,233 --> 00:14:18,066 Our water was coming directly and from Laurel. 320 00:14:20,233 --> 00:14:21,166 As part of this. 321 00:14:22,634 --> 00:14:24,500 Conversation with D P w. 322 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:29,100 They said, you know, it really makes a lot more sense just to put 323 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:30,033 this on our land. 324 00:14:30,233 --> 00:14:31,667 That is to say the townland. 325 00:14:32,867 --> 00:14:35,900 And run it over the, the town parcel. 326 00:14:36,166 --> 00:14:37,333 So we said, fine. 327 00:14:37,333 --> 00:14:38,300 We're happy to do that too. 328 00:14:38,867 --> 00:14:40,033 DPW is supplying the. 329 00:14:41,133 --> 00:14:42,367 Materials and we're doing the installation. 330 00:14:44,033 --> 00:14:45,367 And my last question was 331 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:46,100 I. 332 00:14:47,066 --> 00:14:49,000 I didn't see compensation for the. 333 00:14:50,033 --> 00:14:51,300 Year and a half access. 334 00:14:52,166 --> 00:14:52,300 License. 335 00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:52,667 And 336 00:14:53,266 --> 00:14:56,000 I'm my familiarity is with when the town. 337 00:14:56,767 --> 00:14:58,033 Allows the use of its land. 338 00:14:59,066 --> 00:15:01,066 For a period of time that there is compensation. 339 00:15:01,900 --> 00:15:02,133 For that usage, 340 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:07,000 I guess I would argue that the compensation, if you will, is an in-kind 341 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,300 compensation, the installation of the. 342 00:15:10,100 --> 00:15:11,500 Waterline for the town. 343 00:15:12,667 --> 00:15:17,634 As well as the reconstruction of a sidewalk for the town. 344 00:15:18,467 --> 00:15:19,266 That has value too. 345 00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:19,734 Right? 346 00:15:19,934 --> 00:15:20,033 So. 347 00:15:21,867 --> 00:15:24,433 I thought when projects of this type happened. 348 00:15:25,533 --> 00:15:30,767 Reconstruction of sidewalks was generally a part of the deal when a development goes 349 00:15:30,767 --> 00:15:30,900 in. 350 00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:32,266 So I, I guess I didn't. 351 00:15:33,133 --> 00:15:36,066 Didn't understand that as in kind because the, and the water pipe serves. 352 00:15:37,133 --> 00:15:37,333 Serves the development? 353 00:15:37,367 --> 00:15:41,000 No, no, no. The water pipe, no doesn't does not serve the development. It's 354 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,133 solely to allow the town to have a loop. 355 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,033 As opposed to a dead end, 356 00:15:45,767 --> 00:15:46,100 this. 357 00:15:47,133 --> 00:15:49,266 Walkway is not part of the. 358 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:51,634 Site plan approval, but was something. 359 00:15:52,367 --> 00:15:52,367 Additional 360 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,900 that was agreed to. 361 00:15:56,667 --> 00:15:58,300 The Cy plan approval addressed. 362 00:15:59,066 --> 00:16:00,066 Sidewalks on Laurel. 363 00:16:02,133 --> 00:16:06,266 But this was not a sidewalk that was part of side plan approval. 364 00:16:07,066 --> 00:16:08,100 The request was made. 365 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:09,367 Would you relocate it? 366 00:16:09,700 --> 00:16:11,500 And we agreed the client agreed. 367 00:16:12,867 --> 00:16:16,533 It seems to make sense to do that while they're opening things up and 368 00:16:16,533 --> 00:16:19,066 not to have to do it later, if the town wanted a loop. 369 00:16:20,033 --> 00:16:20,133 Correct? 370 00:16:20,333 --> 00:16:21,066 Yeah, correct. 371 00:16:21,367 --> 00:16:23,266 So that seems to me to have some value. 372 00:16:24,867 --> 00:16:26,100 Anybody else, Kenny. 373 00:16:27,066 --> 00:16:28,333 So that was one of my questions, which. 374 00:16:30,634 --> 00:16:31,767 That answers that question. 375 00:16:33,333 --> 00:16:34,266 My other question was 376 00:16:35,634 --> 00:16:37,667 and I, I don't purport to totally understand it. 377 00:16:37,667 --> 00:16:41,500 It sounds like we're gonna let the, the developer use our lands. 378 00:16:42,667 --> 00:16:43,634 To facilitate building. 379 00:16:44,934 --> 00:16:45,100 The structure 380 00:16:46,133 --> 00:16:47,033 and everything around it. 381 00:16:47,033 --> 00:16:47,133 Right. 382 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:48,033 Correct. 383 00:16:48,233 --> 00:16:51,000 And, and we're getting paid in an in-kind. 384 00:16:52,033 --> 00:16:52,634 In-kind contribution essentially. 385 00:16:53,467 --> 00:16:53,734 And 386 00:16:54,467 --> 00:16:57,100 but if something happens on that land, there's an indemnity, correct? 387 00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:58,834 Which covers, which is good. 388 00:16:59,033 --> 00:17:02,333 And town is name doesn't additional insured, et cetera, et cetera. 389 00:17:02,867 --> 00:17:06,667 But in, in fairness, this is a, a, a parcel that is. 390 00:17:07,634 --> 00:17:09,133 20 or 40 feet wide. 391 00:17:10,467 --> 00:17:14,500 And the distance from Laurel, the Prescott, the portion that we need. 392 00:17:15,233 --> 00:17:15,266 Is 393 00:17:16,033 --> 00:17:17,333 a much smaller portion. 394 00:17:18,767 --> 00:17:23,066 But the entire area is licensed because we're gonna be installing the town's water 395 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:25,834 pipe at a place to be determined and. 396 00:17:26,467 --> 00:17:27,033 Reconstructing the 397 00:17:28,133 --> 00:17:31,033 sidewalk at a place to be determined based upon the D P w plants 398 00:17:32,934 --> 00:17:34,767 So, what do you think the risk of, of 399 00:17:35,834 --> 00:17:36,734 somebody getting hurt on that? 400 00:17:36,767 --> 00:17:37,066 Or 401 00:17:38,033 --> 00:17:39,900 some instance that would trigger the indem? 402 00:17:40,166 --> 00:17:44,100 Indemnity, because my concern ultimately is, and maybe the insurance gets us there. 403 00:17:45,133 --> 00:17:48,500 Is something happens and I don't know who Babson house LLC is or how 404 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:51,333 it's capitalized or is there anything standing behind that? 405 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:52,567 Well, I think the. 406 00:17:54,133 --> 00:17:58,500 The biggest element is that they'd have to get through a construction fence. 407 00:18:00,133 --> 00:18:02,100 And that's why the town. 408 00:18:03,066 --> 00:18:05,834 Insists upon not just indemnification, but also 409 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:07,066 being named. 410 00:18:08,767 --> 00:18:09,066 As 411 00:18:09,834 --> 00:18:11,767 a, an insured, additional insured 412 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:14,033 on a insurance policy. 413 00:18:14,867 --> 00:18:14,867 Okay. 414 00:18:15,033 --> 00:18:15,300 So 415 00:18:17,834 --> 00:18:18,000 anything else? 416 00:18:19,233 --> 00:18:21,166 Anybody else, Collette, you have any questions? 417 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:22,100 Questions? 418 00:18:22,333 --> 00:18:22,667 Nope. 419 00:18:23,333 --> 00:18:23,667 Okay. 420 00:18:24,767 --> 00:18:24,900 All right. 421 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:26,333 I think if go ahead. 422 00:18:27,834 --> 00:18:31,033 Move to approve the access license for the constituent aqueduct. 423 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:32,033 Aqueduct second, 424 00:18:32,734 --> 00:18:33,033 Tom. 425 00:18:33,367 --> 00:18:33,634 Aye. 426 00:18:34,033 --> 00:18:34,133 Beth. 427 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:34,767 Aye. 428 00:18:35,634 --> 00:18:35,634 Collette. 429 00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:37,634 Aye, Kenny aye. 430 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,033 And I vote aye as well. 431 00:18:39,433 --> 00:18:42,433 Thank you very much, David, for being here, that was very helpful. 432 00:18:45,233 --> 00:18:46,066 Thank you everybody. 433 00:18:47,133 --> 00:18:48,000 Oh, thank you, Jeff. 434 00:18:48,433 --> 00:18:48,533 . 435 00:18:48,533 --> 00:18:49,066 Thanks, Jeff. 436 00:18:49,467 --> 00:18:51,100 Can't see you so forgot to thank you. 437 00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:53,066 Okay. 438 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,100 Our next agenda item is special town meeting preparation. 439 00:18:56,266 --> 00:18:57,767 We are going to defer. 440 00:18:58,667 --> 00:19:01,734 Discussion on both article five and article seven. 441 00:19:02,467 --> 00:19:04,634 The bylaw review committee is meeting on Monday. 442 00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:10,767 And we're deferring article five to allow for finalization of financial materials. 443 00:19:11,834 --> 00:19:11,834 Materials. 444 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,300 So we have other motions that we can discuss. 445 00:19:16,233 --> 00:19:16,500 And 446 00:19:17,634 --> 00:19:18,834 as we go through them, 447 00:19:20,333 --> 00:19:20,667 okay. 448 00:19:20,734 --> 00:19:23,033 Is nothing on article one, I assume. 449 00:19:24,033 --> 00:19:25,533 Is there anything on article two? 450 00:19:26,467 --> 00:19:30,500 Anybody have anything on article two, an an article two is a proposed. 451 00:19:31,233 --> 00:19:32,000 Consent agenda, which 452 00:19:32,834 --> 00:19:33,667 I've added the. 453 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,033 Transfer parking clerk fund. 454 00:19:37,100 --> 00:19:40,767 From treasurer to police, which is article four, motion one and article six mm-hmm 455 00:19:40,834 --> 00:19:41,834 , which is the resin debt. 456 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:49,000 And again, that would be contingent upon discussions with the moderator as well as 457 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,166 unanimous vote by advisory. 458 00:19:50,467 --> 00:19:50,834 Yeah. 459 00:19:51,066 --> 00:19:52,634 We we plan to meet with the. 460 00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:56,867 Ad moderator in the next week or so, and Megan presented these two advisory 461 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,567 and there, there wasn't any. 462 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:01,066 Concern about those. 463 00:20:01,133 --> 00:20:04,667 So I wondered if planning would want to put their transfer. 464 00:20:05,867 --> 00:20:06,767 Also in consent. 465 00:20:07,834 --> 00:20:09,667 Because it's not an incremental budget item. 466 00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:10,066 It's just. 467 00:20:11,066 --> 00:20:12,000 It's similar to what we're doing. 468 00:20:12,734 --> 00:20:13,867 I haven't seen their motion. 469 00:20:14,133 --> 00:20:14,300 Okay. 470 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:14,567 So. 471 00:20:15,467 --> 00:20:16,734 Motions are due on Friday. 472 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000 So that very well might be a consent agenda item as well, Beth. 473 00:20:21,033 --> 00:20:22,333 Again, depending on advisory. 474 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:24,066 Okay. 475 00:20:24,734 --> 00:20:25,567 And the moderator 476 00:20:27,066 --> 00:20:27,367 okay. 477 00:20:29,066 --> 00:20:31,867 I will present article two at town meeting. 478 00:20:32,767 --> 00:20:34,133 Beth would you do article four? 479 00:20:34,266 --> 00:20:36,734 If for some reason it's pulled from consent. 480 00:20:38,166 --> 00:20:38,834 Lemme just 481 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:40,767 the answer is yes. 482 00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:42,066 I'm just looking to see what it is. 483 00:20:43,066 --> 00:20:43,333 Yes. 484 00:20:43,567 --> 00:20:44,433 It's our transfer. 485 00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:44,767 Yes. 486 00:20:45,033 --> 00:20:45,133 Okay. 487 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:47,767 Colette will do article five. 488 00:20:47,767 --> 00:20:49,100 And we'll talk about that. 489 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:51,634 Next week or the week after Colette. 490 00:20:53,834 --> 00:20:54,000 Okay. 491 00:20:54,467 --> 00:20:54,734 Yes. 492 00:20:56,367 --> 00:20:59,033 That's yeah, Tom, if necessary, will you do article six? 493 00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:04,667 And Kenny will do article seven and we'll defer discussion till next week. 494 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:09,500 Or when, when Kenny's ready following the bylaw review committee meeting. 495 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:14,100 Are there any other questions about our motions? 496 00:21:15,233 --> 00:21:15,266 Motions? 497 00:21:17,734 --> 00:21:20,033 No. Do you want me to make a motion to approve 498 00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:21,667 the articles? 499 00:21:23,066 --> 00:21:24,066 Two four and six, please. 500 00:21:25,166 --> 00:21:30,333 Okay, so move to approve the 20, 26 special time meeting motion language for. 501 00:21:31,233 --> 00:21:34,166 Article two motion, one, article four, motion, one. 502 00:21:35,066 --> 00:21:36,133 Article six motion one. 503 00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:38,100 Second Kenny. 504 00:21:38,634 --> 00:21:38,867 Aye, 505 00:21:39,467 --> 00:21:39,734 Tom. 506 00:21:40,033 --> 00:21:40,100 Aye. 507 00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:40,867 Collette. 508 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:42,567 I Beth. 509 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:43,000 Aye. 510 00:21:43,266 --> 00:21:44,433 And I vote aye as well. 511 00:21:47,634 --> 00:21:49,834 Right.Moving on to administrative matters. 512 00:21:50,133 --> 00:21:51,567 We have two sets of minutes. 513 00:21:52,367 --> 00:21:55,033 From July 22nd and August 17th. 514 00:21:56,033 --> 00:21:56,367 2026. 515 00:22:02,634 --> 00:22:05,433 I did have some comments on the edits, Margie. 516 00:22:06,033 --> 00:22:06,133 Okay. 517 00:22:08,634 --> 00:22:10,266 So looking at July 22nd. 518 00:22:11,867 --> 00:22:12,133 Online. 519 00:22:13,533 --> 00:22:14,100 S 79. 520 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:19,767 I, I actually think, I think it was fine as it was drafted. 521 00:22:19,867 --> 00:22:23,033 I, I do think the intent was to say it was virtually impossible, not 522 00:22:23,066 --> 00:22:23,834 more challeng. 523 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,033 Challenging. 524 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:26,767 Sorry, say what line again? 525 00:22:26,767 --> 00:22:28,567 That is Colette and I can amend it. 526 00:22:29,533 --> 00:22:32,900 Amend it's line 78 and 70 9th of July 22nd. 527 00:22:32,934 --> 00:22:33,333 Mm-hmm . 528 00:22:44,333 --> 00:22:47,667 Yeah, I believe that was a comment that made, made, made that edit. 529 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,433 I just, I think virtually impossible is. 530 00:22:51,233 --> 00:22:51,433 If I see it here. 531 00:22:51,433 --> 00:22:51,567 Sorry. 532 00:22:51,767 --> 00:22:53,266 A far stronger sentiment. 533 00:22:53,433 --> 00:22:54,166 We're challenging. 534 00:22:55,066 --> 00:22:58,000 Acknowledges that there, it requires more coordination. 535 00:22:58,467 --> 00:22:59,066 It's not my mouth. 536 00:22:59,066 --> 00:22:59,367 Right. 537 00:22:59,367 --> 00:23:00,367 But it's yeah. 538 00:23:00,734 --> 00:23:03,066 I mean, but I think that that, that's what the discussion. 539 00:23:03,433 --> 00:23:05,867 Was it's 10,000 pages with no centralization of who, 540 00:23:06,667 --> 00:23:07,867 you know, you can't control it. 541 00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:08,834 So I think it really is. 542 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,000 I, I think that was the true nature of the discussion. 543 00:23:11,834 --> 00:23:16,000 And I think we've shown that it's, it's not working to ask people to 544 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,100 work together on. 545 00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:21,533 This, you know, there are all different ways of doing things and people don't 546 00:23:21,533 --> 00:23:24,500 respond when they're asked for information for the website. 547 00:23:25,533 --> 00:23:28,133 I agree it's stronger, but I don't think it's incorrect. 548 00:23:33,066 --> 00:23:34,634 So I would just strike that. 549 00:23:34,634 --> 00:23:34,867 If, 550 00:23:35,433 --> 00:23:37,100 if we need a motion, I'll move to strike. 551 00:23:37,333 --> 00:23:38,066 That edit. 552 00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:42,133 Anything else, Colette. 553 00:23:43,166 --> 00:23:43,533 Yeah. 554 00:23:43,533 --> 00:23:48,066 If you go down to approximately lane one 60 under one 40 Western road 555 00:23:54,133 --> 00:23:56,867 It uses Megan's name there, but it should be missed job. 556 00:23:57,533 --> 00:23:58,300 So that's twice. 557 00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:16,300 And then if you go down to approximately lane 207 under Townhall, interior are 558 00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:16,834 updated. 559 00:24:17,333 --> 00:24:17,333 Updated. 560 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,033 I, I actually prefer to leave that. 561 00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:25,066 I, I don't want to strike that because I think it's important that we 562 00:24:25,066 --> 00:24:25,266 had. 563 00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:26,333 Only had one discussion. 564 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:29,567 I mean, there were some questions raised, so I prefer to leave that. 565 00:24:30,533 --> 00:24:32,100 And I believe that's what you said. 566 00:24:33,133 --> 00:24:33,767 It was what I said. 567 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:34,300 Mm-hmm . 568 00:24:36,867 --> 00:24:38,734 And the same is true under the war Memorial. 569 00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:39,634 I think we had a 570 00:24:40,266 --> 00:24:43,033 discussion is it can cause uneven surfaces. 571 00:24:43,634 --> 00:24:46,066 Surfaces, because what was reported to us as staff had gone out to fix 572 00:24:47,066 --> 00:24:51,300 Some of the masonry and couldn't find the unevenness because it, it was dependent 573 00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:51,834 on weather. 574 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:52,333 So again, 575 00:24:54,066 --> 00:24:55,066 I, I feel that that. 576 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,100 Those edits are, are I prefer not to have those edits? 577 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:04,533 Edits Megan, do you know whether it's current damage or the potential for damage 578 00:25:05,734 --> 00:25:08,500 So when we went out there, so if we went out right now, I 579 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:11,100 bet they would be loose because we've been in a drought condition. 580 00:25:12,233 --> 00:25:13,133 As we get more 581 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,133 hu humidity in the air as we go into fall. 582 00:25:17,133 --> 00:25:19,033 When we had been out there prior to. 583 00:25:19,834 --> 00:25:19,834 The 584 00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:25,133 veterans say event last year when I was out there with cricket, we, we 585 00:25:25,133 --> 00:25:26,900 couldn't find anything moving because. 586 00:25:27,834 --> 00:25:28,100 It had been 587 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,567 rehydrated. 588 00:25:31,066 --> 00:25:33,033 Rehydrated, but I, I do believe if we went out there right now, there 589 00:25:33,033 --> 00:25:33,667 would be. 590 00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:35,533 Probably some failing. 591 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:36,000 So 592 00:25:36,867 --> 00:25:39,333 and we have had big pieces of mortar. 593 00:25:40,166 --> 00:25:41,433 Come out when people step on it. 594 00:25:42,467 --> 00:25:44,133 Yeah, we had that on one of the steps up. 595 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,767 A big chunk come up at, at a public gathering. 596 00:25:49,867 --> 00:25:52,567 But, but I do feel it can be weather dependent. 597 00:25:52,667 --> 00:25:53,066 Mm-hmm . 598 00:25:54,367 --> 00:25:54,634 So 599 00:25:56,166 --> 00:25:58,166 typically by November we're we're okay. 600 00:25:58,166 --> 00:26:00,367 From all wobbly standpoint, but it doesn't preclude. 601 00:26:00,367 --> 00:26:03,634 We did have the, the step break when we were there for a veteran's 602 00:26:03,634 --> 00:26:04,033 day event. 603 00:26:04,567 --> 00:26:06,567 So Colette, what about saying. 604 00:26:07,433 --> 00:26:09,767 Which has caused uneven surfaces. 605 00:26:11,066 --> 00:26:11,433 Surfaces, depending on the weather 606 00:26:12,433 --> 00:26:16,000 or, or, or we can just say to address the, the, the, the failing 607 00:26:16,066 --> 00:26:18,033 masonry period and take the rest of it out. 608 00:26:18,033 --> 00:26:19,066 If we don't agree on it. 609 00:26:19,867 --> 00:26:20,266 I just don't. 610 00:26:20,433 --> 00:26:20,567 I 611 00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:23,100 I think that's a great secret suggestion. 612 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:23,367 That's fine too. 613 00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:24,667 Yeah. 614 00:26:25,033 --> 00:26:28,000 So after masonry period, and then take the rest of it out. 615 00:26:28,934 --> 00:26:29,000 Okay. 616 00:26:30,734 --> 00:26:31,033 And then 617 00:26:32,166 --> 00:26:36,066 don't approximately lane 235 under whites pond. 618 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:42,533 There's been a statement added in there to say if the NRC is interested 619 00:26:42,634 --> 00:26:44,433 in pursuing the acceptance of whites pond. 620 00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:47,634 I, I don't remember that it was dependent on that. 621 00:26:47,767 --> 00:26:50,533 I think we had a lot of discussion that we, we felt that we 622 00:26:50,533 --> 00:26:52,000 had to discuss it anyway. 623 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,300 At some point. 624 00:26:53,367 --> 00:26:56,300 So I don't, I don't necessarily agree with that addition. 625 00:27:05,033 --> 00:27:09,834 I agree with you that we had to, we asked for more information and 626 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,066 Expected to talk further about it. 627 00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:13,000 Right. 628 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,367 And so it wasn't dependent on the NRC being interested. 629 00:27:17,133 --> 00:27:21,367 Because, you know, you know, it's moving forward as a citizen's petition and, you 630 00:27:21,367 --> 00:27:23,066 know, we, we might want to know more about it. 631 00:27:23,066 --> 00:27:25,100 So I would suggest, suggest striking that edit. 632 00:27:27,033 --> 00:27:28,066 Megan it's 633 00:27:29,133 --> 00:27:30,734 it's I've heard white pond and whites pond. 634 00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:35,066 I don't know the answer to that, but I will find out and we 635 00:27:35,066 --> 00:27:35,333 can correct. 636 00:27:35,433 --> 00:27:36,533 It's generally pond. 637 00:27:37,867 --> 00:27:39,500 Let me see what we have on the map, which is. 638 00:27:40,033 --> 00:27:40,033 The 639 00:27:42,867 --> 00:27:44,033 I can it's white. 640 00:27:45,166 --> 00:27:46,533 Do you have a, I dunno, it's has whites. 641 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,066 . 642 00:27:48,033 --> 00:27:48,667 How do they spell it though? 643 00:27:49,567 --> 00:27:52,500 W I G H T S mm-hmm no apostrophe, no apostrophe. 644 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:52,834 Okay. 645 00:27:52,834 --> 00:27:53,000 No. 646 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:53,734 Okay. 647 00:27:53,734 --> 00:27:53,767 Okay. 648 00:27:53,834 --> 00:27:54,000 Good. 649 00:27:54,567 --> 00:27:54,900 Okay. 650 00:27:56,033 --> 00:27:56,166 Hmm. 651 00:27:58,367 --> 00:27:59,000 Colette. 652 00:27:59,133 --> 00:27:59,567 Anything else? 653 00:28:02,033 --> 00:28:04,100 No, that's it on the, on that's it. 654 00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:07,000 Anybody else have any comments on the 22nd? 655 00:28:07,834 --> 00:28:08,300 I had one comment. 656 00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:09,333 Go ahead, Kenny. 657 00:28:09,467 --> 00:28:10,500 Right in the intro. 658 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,834 In the call to order, it says the meeting was not recorded as it 659 00:28:19,834 --> 00:28:20,667 was a working retreat. 660 00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:23,333 And that is not in fact, the case. 661 00:28:24,367 --> 00:28:24,567 So 662 00:28:25,467 --> 00:28:26,533 we need to change that. 663 00:28:28,934 --> 00:28:29,767 Do we wanna say video? 664 00:28:29,934 --> 00:28:30,533 Not televised. 665 00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:31,066 Yeah. 666 00:28:32,367 --> 00:28:33,100 Is that okay? 667 00:28:37,133 --> 00:28:38,000 Did we record the meeting? 668 00:28:39,066 --> 00:28:39,367 Was recorded. 669 00:28:42,033 --> 00:28:43,033 We didn't announce that though. 670 00:28:43,033 --> 00:28:43,266 Right? 671 00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:46,867 I don't think so. 672 00:28:48,667 --> 00:28:50,767 No, we didn't cuz that's not what's in my notes. 673 00:28:50,934 --> 00:28:54,066 So, but that I think tele not televised is AC accurate. 674 00:28:56,033 --> 00:28:56,500 Anything else, Kenny? 675 00:28:57,700 --> 00:28:57,734 Okay. 676 00:28:57,900 --> 00:28:59,000 Anything else on the 22nd? 677 00:29:00,667 --> 00:29:01,000 All right. 678 00:29:01,266 --> 00:29:03,033 Anything on August 17th. 679 00:29:04,066 --> 00:29:04,266 I do 680 00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:07,000 go ahead, Colette. 681 00:29:08,233 --> 00:29:09,066 So on 682 00:29:10,634 --> 00:29:11,266 lane one 12. 683 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:15,000 It says 684 00:29:16,066 --> 00:29:18,266 sorry, my wait, I'll wait till Megan brings up. 685 00:29:32,033 --> 00:29:34,066 So on line one 12, when it says. 686 00:29:35,433 --> 00:29:39,033 Asked whether the board had previously discussed outsourcing. 687 00:29:40,033 --> 00:29:43,133 I think that's actually a better representation of what has actually happened because the 688 00:29:43,133 --> 00:29:45,100 board has several times discussed outsourcing. 689 00:29:47,266 --> 00:29:47,867 Of the 690 00:29:48,934 --> 00:29:49,867 weights and measures to the. 691 00:29:51,066 --> 00:29:51,133 To the 692 00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:53,500 Norfolk county. 693 00:29:53,934 --> 00:29:55,834 So, I mean, that's why it was worded that way. 694 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,900 We have discussed it. 695 00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:03,033 Megan had advised us several times that Jack was retiring. 696 00:30:04,033 --> 00:30:04,734 And that we were looking. 697 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:06,100 To 698 00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:08,533 whether we could outsource it. 699 00:30:08,667 --> 00:30:10,834 And we'd had a previous discussion about it. 700 00:30:11,634 --> 00:30:15,033 So several times I had to ask, when did we have the discussion discuss 701 00:30:15,033 --> 00:30:17,066 Because I'm, so we had a unfamiliar with it. 702 00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:18,834 So we had it several times, 703 00:30:19,734 --> 00:30:22,767 I think in ACHI, at least once in public session, because I had asked 704 00:30:22,767 --> 00:30:24,300 if we could put as 705 00:30:25,033 --> 00:30:25,834 a review of. 706 00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:26,300 The 707 00:30:28,567 --> 00:30:31,266 the money that we pay to the county, I think is a. 708 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,367 It's a significant amount of money that we pay to the county and whether 709 00:30:34,367 --> 00:30:35,867 we were getting value from money for that. 710 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:37,333 And Megan has always responded. 711 00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:38,100 That 712 00:30:39,133 --> 00:30:40,634 she, she believed it would be an. 713 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,100 Something we would look into with the weights and measures when the current. 714 00:30:45,767 --> 00:30:48,533 Mr. Walsh retired because it's hard to hire. 715 00:30:49,333 --> 00:30:51,266 And the, the county was providing that service. 716 00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:53,100 We've had that discussion at least three times. 717 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:58,000 Okay, this is an accurate representation of what I said at the meeting though 718 00:30:58,233 --> 00:31:01,900 And that's what minutes are for, it's not for you also had this discussion 719 00:31:02,467 --> 00:31:06,100 Before, when, if there's something that's said that's incorrect, we don't necessarily want to 720 00:31:06,166 --> 00:31:07,300 make that part of the record. 721 00:31:07,767 --> 00:31:09,900 So we had this discussion, I think two weeks ago. 722 00:31:10,867 --> 00:31:12,100 And I think that I believe that's in our policy. 723 00:31:12,233 --> 00:31:13,133 So something that's said. 724 00:31:14,066 --> 00:31:16,667 You try and correct it in the moment, but you don't want to factor 725 00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:14,066 That's incorrect. 726 00:31:16,667 --> 00:31:17,834 it into the, into the record. 727 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000 So that's why I thought this was a better. 728 00:31:20,767 --> 00:31:21,767 I think you asked, you know, 729 00:31:23,066 --> 00:31:24,066 whether the port had discussed it. 730 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,100 And I think that's a better representation of the, of the actual. 731 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,066 Situations, because if you say, you know, why the board had not discussed it 732 00:31:31,066 --> 00:31:33,033 there's no correction that that's not true. 733 00:31:37,467 --> 00:31:39,000 What was, I apologize club. 734 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,166 What was the edit that you were suggesting? 735 00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:43,166 So when it says 736 00:31:45,133 --> 00:31:45,100 she asked 737 00:31:46,533 --> 00:31:47,333 the, the why. 738 00:31:48,166 --> 00:31:51,000 I, I think I, I, I think it should stay as she asked, whether 739 00:31:51,133 --> 00:31:55,333 the board had previously discussed, not why the board had not previously discussed. 740 00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:01,066 So under the weather being eliminated and the adding of why. 741 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,100 And undo the adding of not. 742 00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:20,634 Okay. 743 00:32:21,867 --> 00:32:26,367 And then at the very end online, 1 25, when it says as it's technically 744 00:32:26,367 --> 00:32:27,066 a deviation. 745 00:32:27,233 --> 00:32:30,066 From the language in M M G L. I don't think that's necessary because 746 00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:30,266 I think. 747 00:32:31,367 --> 00:32:34,166 I don't think that's the case again, for the same reason, we had an 748 00:32:34,166 --> 00:32:36,734 opinion that it, you know, it was acceptable. 749 00:32:37,133 --> 00:32:39,100 So I don't, I don't think that's helpful. 750 00:32:39,433 --> 00:32:39,834 To put in there. 751 00:32:41,066 --> 00:32:41,500 They did. 752 00:32:43,033 --> 00:32:44,100 Actually agree to that. 753 00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:46,367 Collette at the meeting, I went back and watched it. 754 00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:47,100 So I. 755 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,066 Would like that included. 756 00:32:49,433 --> 00:32:51,133 And I did actually say that. 757 00:32:51,433 --> 00:32:51,667 So. 758 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:55,000 I don't believe we should rewrite. 759 00:32:55,834 --> 00:32:56,100 What happened? 760 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,100 Can I make a comment Marjorie? 761 00:32:59,066 --> 00:32:59,367 Yeah, go ahead, Kenny. 762 00:32:59,467 --> 00:33:02,667 So I'm going to say what I said the last time, the, the minutes 763 00:33:03,433 --> 00:33:05,066 Are there to memorialize what happened? 764 00:33:05,367 --> 00:33:07,767 Not whether or not what happened is right or wrong. 765 00:33:08,567 --> 00:33:10,734 And when we go through this exercise of. 766 00:33:11,834 --> 00:33:13,634 Well that's that might not be right. 767 00:33:13,634 --> 00:33:16,533 Or I, I have no idea factually what we're saying is accurate. 768 00:33:17,533 --> 00:33:17,533 At the moment. 769 00:33:19,834 --> 00:33:22,266 But there's things that are black and white right. 770 00:33:22,266 --> 00:33:22,767 And wrong. 771 00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:24,500 And then there's a lot of gray in the middle. 772 00:33:24,634 --> 00:33:26,367 And when we start editorializing, 773 00:33:27,433 --> 00:33:28,567 I think we're going down a bad path. 774 00:33:28,767 --> 00:33:29,900 I think the minute should say. 775 00:33:30,667 --> 00:33:35,066 What happened, whether what was stated was accurate or not, it's what was stated 776 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:36,367 And, and I think it should say that. 777 00:33:38,667 --> 00:33:41,066 I mean, and that, and that's a fair opinion, but I do think that 778 00:33:41,066 --> 00:33:44,734 when you put something that's factually incorrect in the, in the record, that's problematic 779 00:33:44,734 --> 00:33:45,333 And we talked about. 780 00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:48,533 That before in the minutes or not to record every single comment that's made 781 00:33:49,533 --> 00:33:51,300 So, I mean, it's up to the board to decide, not me. 782 00:33:51,867 --> 00:33:53,066 I, I do looking at this. 783 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,900 I do understand what you're saying, Kenny, and I think you're making a, a 784 00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:56,300 good point. 785 00:33:57,133 --> 00:34:01,500 But I think, for example, if the statement as a technically is a deviation 786 00:34:01,634 --> 00:34:05,166 from the language, whether it was said or not, if it's incorrect, it shouldn 787 00:34:05,533 --> 00:34:06,100 Shouldn't be in here. 788 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,033 And I, 789 00:34:09,066 --> 00:34:09,166 I 790 00:34:09,934 --> 00:34:10,033 I'm 791 00:34:11,066 --> 00:34:11,066 I'm 792 00:34:11,934 --> 00:34:16,567 my assumption is that our opinion from Tom Harrington establishes that it's not. 793 00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:23,166 Well, and eliminating the last phrase does not diminish the fact that Beth wanted 794 00:34:23,467 --> 00:34:23,734 to. 795 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,433 Be assured that it was legally. 796 00:34:27,233 --> 00:34:27,300 Permissible. 797 00:34:31,767 --> 00:34:33,834 I'm not a pining on any particular thing here. 798 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,900 I just think we should be, 799 00:34:35,634 --> 00:34:36,000 we should. 800 00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:40,100 State what was said, and if we need to put a footnote that says 801 00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:44,166 FYI, this is actually wrong, then we should do it that way. 802 00:34:44,233 --> 00:34:46,333 But I, I don't, I think editorializing. 803 00:34:47,700 --> 00:34:49,433 Is a dangerous place to go. 804 00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:52,867 But, but you know, the minutes are a summary and it is, it's a 805 00:34:53,033 --> 00:34:55,433 judgment that we make, whether it's and a good summary or not. 806 00:34:55,533 --> 00:34:58,333 So I would, I would make a motion to remove this statement. 807 00:34:58,667 --> 00:35:01,533 At the end of line 1 22 through 1 23. 808 00:35:02,467 --> 00:35:02,834 Second. 809 00:35:04,767 --> 00:35:05,500 In Kenny? 810 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,066 No. 811 00:35:07,066 --> 00:35:07,066 Beth. 812 00:35:07,667 --> 00:35:07,900 No. 813 00:35:09,133 --> 00:35:09,133 Tom. 814 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:10,500 Yes, Colette. 815 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:11,767 Yes. 816 00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:14,066 So I'd like to. 817 00:35:15,066 --> 00:35:16,066 Make a motion to amend. 818 00:35:16,634 --> 00:35:17,333 Can we say. 819 00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:22,066 That Ms. Sullivan woods indicated she wanted a legal opinion from town counsel. 820 00:35:23,066 --> 00:35:25,533 Confirming the arrangement is permissible before voting. 821 00:35:26,467 --> 00:35:26,500 Because 822 00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:29,000 she believed it to be. 823 00:35:30,033 --> 00:35:31,333 A technical deviation. 824 00:35:32,166 --> 00:35:32,533 From the 825 00:35:34,667 --> 00:35:35,533 I'll second, the amendment. 826 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,333 Okay. 827 00:35:39,467 --> 00:35:40,100 As amended. 828 00:35:41,133 --> 00:35:43,333 Well, what about, because she believes it may be. 829 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,333 I believe it is I technical is deviation. 830 00:35:48,166 --> 00:35:48,166 Right. 831 00:35:52,734 --> 00:35:56,033 I, I feel like you get there with the, because she believes I can't 832 00:35:56,033 --> 00:35:57,266 hear Kenny, can you hear mic on? 833 00:35:57,266 --> 00:35:57,500 Yes, 834 00:35:58,266 --> 00:35:58,367 I. 835 00:35:58,867 --> 00:35:59,133 Think you get there. 836 00:35:59,634 --> 00:36:00,533 It's not on, sorry. 837 00:36:01,667 --> 00:36:03,567 I think we get there because it's qualified with. 838 00:36:04,567 --> 00:36:08,000 An opinion, which is she, she believes it is a technical deviation. 839 00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:08,266 Right. 840 00:36:08,433 --> 00:36:09,100 And that's fair. 841 00:36:09,266 --> 00:36:12,000 She believes it may be, is not actually what she believed. 842 00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:12,533 Right. 843 00:36:13,767 --> 00:36:14,033 All right. 844 00:36:14,033 --> 00:36:14,667 Let's leave. 845 00:36:14,734 --> 00:36:16,033 She believes it is. 846 00:36:16,767 --> 00:36:18,166 So we have an amended motion. 847 00:36:18,367 --> 00:36:20,767 That's been seconded on the floor, Tom. 848 00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:21,934 Tom.Aye. 849 00:36:21,934 --> 00:36:22,133 Collette. 850 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:23,266 Aye. 851 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,033 Kenny. 852 00:36:24,033 --> 00:36:25,066 Aye, Beth. 853 00:36:25,133 --> 00:36:25,367 Aye. 854 00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:26,066 Okay. 855 00:36:26,133 --> 00:36:26,634 And aye, vote. 856 00:36:26,634 --> 00:36:26,867 Aye. 857 00:36:26,867 --> 00:36:27,066 As well. 858 00:36:28,033 --> 00:36:28,333 Anything else? 859 00:36:28,333 --> 00:36:28,767 Colette. 860 00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:30,033 I have no further edits. 861 00:36:30,166 --> 00:36:30,533 Okay. 862 00:36:30,934 --> 00:36:31,100 All right. 863 00:36:31,166 --> 00:36:33,500 May we have a motion on the approval of the minutes? 864 00:36:34,533 --> 00:36:40,533 Move to approve the minutes of July 22nd, 2026 and August 17th, 2026 as amended. 865 00:36:41,433 --> 00:36:41,900 Second 866 00:36:42,467 --> 00:36:42,834 Beth. 867 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:44,433 Aye, Tom. 868 00:36:44,667 --> 00:36:44,900 Aye. 869 00:36:45,066 --> 00:36:45,300 Kenny. 870 00:36:45,634 --> 00:36:45,867 Aye. 871 00:36:46,066 --> 00:36:46,533 Collette. 872 00:36:47,433 --> 00:36:47,667 Aye. 873 00:36:48,133 --> 00:36:49,133 And I vote aye as well. 874 00:36:51,166 --> 00:36:51,533 Okay. 875 00:36:52,567 --> 00:36:53,433 Our next agenda item. 876 00:36:54,133 --> 00:36:55,100 Let me just get there. 877 00:36:56,233 --> 00:36:57,734 Is executive session. 878 00:36:59,033 --> 00:37:04,033 I request a motion to enter into executive session with respect to negotiations with 879 00:37:04,033 --> 00:37:06,367 the Wellesley patrol officer's association. 880 00:37:07,066 --> 00:37:08,433 Wealthy superior officers. 881 00:37:09,533 --> 00:37:13,100 Officers, Wesley firefighters, I a F F local 1795. 882 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:15,734 Wellesley library, staff association. 883 00:37:16,567 --> 00:37:19,000 And Wellesley library, supervisor association. 884 00:37:19,834 --> 00:37:22,433 As well as to conduct strategy with respect to litigation. 885 00:37:23,233 --> 00:37:24,133 On 40 Oakland street. 886 00:37:26,033 --> 00:37:30,266 To move to enter executives, obsession, I think is it 4:37 PM. 887 00:37:32,166 --> 00:37:34,300 And to invite executive director and Megan job. 888 00:37:35,433 --> 00:37:39,867 Assistant executive director at Cory tester, human resources, director, Dolores Hamilton. 889 00:37:40,934 --> 00:37:44,634 Town council, Tom Harrington, special council, Nick Nicholas Shapiro. 890 00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:49,166 Alan Coote of Ty bond police, chief Scott Woodmore. 891 00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:55,000 Fire chief Steve Marelli, library, director, Jamie Jergenson, and board of library trustee. 892 00:37:56,033 --> 00:37:58,066 Chair, Marla Robinson to join the meeting. 893 00:37:59,066 --> 00:38:00,333 Following the close of executive session. 894 00:38:01,333 --> 00:38:04,367 The board will return to open session for the sole purpose of adjourning, the 895 00:38:04,367 --> 00:38:04,567 meeting. 896 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:06,066 And sorry, I should have said that. 897 00:38:06,066 --> 00:38:06,300 That was. 898 00:38:07,066 --> 00:38:13,066 Entering executive session under mass general law, chapter 38, subsection 21 E three to 899 00:38:13,066 --> 00:38:13,767 conduct strategy. 900 00:38:15,066 --> 00:38:15,367 With 901 00:38:17,133 --> 00:38:18,266 respect to negotiations with the LC. 902 00:38:19,233 --> 00:38:24,333 Police patrol officers association was a firefighters I a F F local 1 7 95. 903 00:38:25,333 --> 00:38:30,433 Rosie library, staff association and Wellesley library, supervisor association, and to conduct strategy with 904 00:38:30,433 --> 00:38:33,166 respect to litigation with the Commonwealth regarding 40 co. 905 00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:35,300 Street and Wellesley superior officers. 906 00:38:36,567 --> 00:38:37,500 Officers and wealthy superior officers. 907 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:37,734 Okay. 908 00:38:37,734 --> 00:38:38,100 Thank you. 909 00:38:38,867 --> 00:38:38,867 Second 910 00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:40,533 Kenny. 911 00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:41,867 Aye, Tom. 912 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,266 Aye. 913 00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:43,000 Collette. 914 00:38:44,033 --> 00:38:44,734 Aye Beth. 915 00:38:45,033 --> 00:38:45,100 Aye. 916 00:38:45,367 --> 00:38:46,567 And I vote aye as well. 917 00:38:46,767 --> 00:38:47,734 Thank you everybody. 918 00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:50,100 We will be back at five 30. 919 00:38:51,066 --> 00:38:53,000 Next Tuesday, September 29th.