1 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:18,320 Here you are. Regular council meeting of August 17th. 2 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:23,960 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:29,200 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 4 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:32,600 justice for all. >> I am a 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,600 » I am too. 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:38,280 » Uh let's do roll call, please. >> Councilperson Sexton? 7 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,480 » Here. >> Horne? 8 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,040 » Here. >> Dean? 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,600 » Here. >> Noll? 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,440 » Here. >> I am here. 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,920 » No, ma'am. >> No, ma'am. 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,240 » Uh motion, please, to approve the agenda tonight. 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,000 » So moved. >> Second. 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,360 » All those in favor, say I. >> I. 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:03,240 » Um the consent agenda consists of the minutes from the August 3rd regular 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:11,200 council meeting, um a class C liquor license for Mexico Lindo, 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:13,040 and the claims, the most recent claims. Motion to approve. 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,680 » So moved. >> Second. 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,920 » Any questions, anyone? 20 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:28,600 Um Okay, hearing none, let's vote. 21 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,960 » Councilperson Dean? >> Yes. 22 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,440 » Horne? >> Yes. 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,720 » Sexton? >> Yes. 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,120 » Noll? >> Yes. 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:44,360 » Okay, presentations, open forum. Anyone want to talk to us online or 26 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:49,120 in the crowd? You can say so now. 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,200 Um Hearing none, we'll move on. 28 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:04,160 Uh all right, resolution 2684 approving an invoice in the amount of 29 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:08,440 231 dollars and 49 cents to EOC. For the widening project. 30 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,039 Motion. >> So 31 00:02:09,399 --> 00:02:12,039 » Second that. 32 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:19,160 » They're going to keep This is number like 20 of 33 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,920 » We've got I did look it up to see. We have 34 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,560 » 10,000 dollars to go? >> 10,824 dollars left. 35 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,920 And >> dollars and 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,000 » times. Several of them have been very small amounts. 37 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,480 » I know. >> We'll come back to you in a little time 38 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,959 about >> Mhm. 39 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:38,520 » Can you all explain what this one's for? >> Yeah, sure we can. 40 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:43,040 » So >> Uh I believe this is for the sign that 41 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:48,520 went up as part of the funding source and IDEALS. We had to install two signs 42 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:51,959 on the public forum that basically described the project, showed the 43 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,400 project financing stuff. I believe that's what this invoice is. 44 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,600 » So those two signs That would be delivered to the city. 45 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,000 » You've been getting a lot of those invoices. 46 00:03:03,239 --> 00:03:07,600 We don't know when my thing will >> Give me a Let's vote, please. Let's 47 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:10,440 vote. >> Councilperson Councilperson Dean? 48 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,560 » Yes. >> No. 49 00:03:10,959 --> 00:03:12,800 » Yes. >> Horgan? 50 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,120 » Yes. >> Starkstedt? 51 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,120 » Yes. 52 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:24,519 » All right, resolution 2685 passing by number two in the amount of 496,618 53 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:29,040 dollars 15 cents to Triple B for the West Main 54 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:33,519 Street overlay. This is only number two. 55 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,519 » A 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,080 » Need a motion. >> So moved. 57 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,080 » Second. 58 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:50,440 » So Yeah. Uh what we got on our computer it 59 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:52,280 says it's 459 and on the sheet it's 496. Which is correct? 60 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,760 » What's the difference? >> What's the sheet say? 61 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,840 699 62 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:06,960 » 496 619 >> 61915 cents 63 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:16,680 Okay. Okay. So, what I read is correct. 64 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,640 That's what I mean. The line is not 65 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:22,520 » The staff sheet is not. It is on the resolution but the staff sheet is in 66 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,120 third person. >> We all get dyslexic once in a while. 67 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:30,120 » I did not know that. The resolution does say 496. So, if you 68 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:34,480 sign that we're fine and the statement has 496. 69 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:38,560 » All right. Any questions, comments? I think they're doing well. I don't know 70 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,200 why they didn't show today though. They're all working today. 71 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,320 » They did. >> I think they were cleaning up the office 72 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,200 or something. >> I think they're closed. 73 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,000 » They should be done by the end of the week. 74 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,000 » The school starts Monday. 75 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,440 Right? >> Yes. Yes, school starts 76 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,919 » Monday, I believe. I believe. >> Will it will it be open? 77 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,440 » I believe so. They're shooting for this week is what they're telling me. 78 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,600 » So Well 79 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:03,960 » It might be closed. Ceiling and stuff will have to get done 80 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,960 probably next week. 81 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,440 » Okay. I got a let's vote. We got a motion to approve. So, let's vote, 82 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,680 please. >> Councilperson Dean 83 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,480 » Yes. >> No. Yes. Sexton 84 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:17,360 » Yes. >> Ortega 85 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,360 » Yes. 86 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:25,880 » All right. Resolution 2686 change order number three in the amount of $3,629 87 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:31,360 and 73 cents for the overlay project. 88 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:36,040 Must be extending a storm sewer 6 ft or something. 89 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,880 That what that is? >> Yeah, I brought some pictures. I didn't 90 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:44,600 know if Dave shared with you. So, we went and asked to Matt and Matt agreed 91 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:48,360 and approved it that this needed to be done. I didn't plan on 92 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,880 copies but you'll have to shoot it. >> That's right. It's um 93 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,720 » So, basically it's a little short. It just need to be 94 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,480 extended a little bit to get a width in the road. So, we just plan to put a bend 95 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:05,520 on it and extend it out just for safety reasons. It just drops off pretty quick 96 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:09,280 right there. So, >> Do I hear a motion for that? 97 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:12,440 » So moved. >> Second. 98 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,440 » Thank you. 99 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:20,040 All right. A little minor adjustment. It happens. 100 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,760 Any questions? Let's go ahead and vote. 101 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,080 » Councilperson Noble? >> Yes. 102 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,320 » Assistant? >> Yes. 103 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,360 » Morgan? >> Yes. 104 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,840 » Dean? >> Yes. 105 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:37,919 » All right. Solid waste. 20 resolution 2687 approving a agreement for solid 106 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:42,200 waste and recycling services with Smith Sanitation. 107 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,680 » So moved. >> Second. 108 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:52,000 » Let's get this done. Move on. 109 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:59,080 Um any questions? I I kind of breezed through the contract. I didn't really 110 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:03,120 study it a whole lot. >> Just for the public 111 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:07,400 notice, what's what's the timeline going to be tonight 112 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:12,040 » We've got probably 75% of our carts down here ready to to deliver in North City 113 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Park. We're going to go Thursday, Friday full days delivering and then it might 114 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,200 bleed into Saturday if we don't I get it done. 115 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:23,200 So, it'll be it'll be this week. >> So, is everybody getting the same cart 116 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:28,480 that they they have now or is everybody getting a new one? Okay. 117 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,480 » It'll be on Facebook tomorrow. >> What's that? 118 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:34,960 » It'll be on Facebook tomorrow for the residents about drop the dropping it off 119 00:07:32,919 --> 00:07:37,320 this week later this week. >> All right. 120 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:41,000 » I think the biggest thing too for the residents to notice in this contract is 121 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,400 it is a 6:00 a.m. start time rather than 7:00. 122 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,560 » Yeah, I saw that. >> We'll be 123 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:50,280 We're going to be getting in and out of town fairly quickly. We'll have either 124 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,480 four or five trucks over here, but we'll have a carrier load that is going to be 125 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,320 here later in the day if there are people that are 126 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,520 setting out late as they're getting used to things. So. 127 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,120 » You're going to try to be consistent, say start at one end of town to the 128 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,120 other? >> Same Same Same route every week. 129 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:10,240 » Got that figured out. >> We don't quite have it figured out yet. 130 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:13,520 It'll be consistent every week, but with three trucks starting on garbage, we 131 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,840 can't necessarily start them all in the same place. 132 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,960 » Correct. >> So, it's probably going to be something 133 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:20,560 like one starting up by the golf course, one 134 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,400 starting on like Scott, and one starting on Downey maybe, and then they all just 135 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,640 work towards towards the 136 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,440 » The messages, have them out Thursday night 137 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:34,919 before 6:00 a.m. >> That'd be best, yes. 138 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:38,039 6:00 a.m. to guarantee service. >> And this started when again? When does 139 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,320 it start? First Friday in September? 140 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,159 » Yeah, the Yeah, the 4th will be our first service day. 141 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:53,080 » A couple weeks ago you had talked about you do appliance disposal. 142 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,600 » Yes, we'll have a scheduled fee that will have There will be stickers that 143 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,360 are sold in town. >> Uh-huh. 144 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:02,000 » Um a lot like we did with Johnson County Refuse, you know, 145 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:05,360 a washer is 15 stickers say I'm just throwing it out there. They'll put those 146 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:08,839 15 stickers on it and just set it out at the curb. Our guys will let us know when 147 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,080 they go by and see it that it needs to be picked up and they'll get it done. 148 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,560 » Perfect. >> So, I don't have to call you ahead of 149 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,600 time then. >> If you want to, you can, just but no, 150 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:20,080 you don't have to. >> Where do the stickers get purchased here 151 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,720 here in the city office? >> You need to check 152 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,839 » Here at Jack and Jill. Yeah. >> Oh, Jack and Jill? 153 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,839 » Yeah. 154 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,960 » All right, I'm excited. >> They also They also showed they sent to 155 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,080 us uh kind of a flyer that had 156 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,640 » Yeah. >> some information on it as well that 157 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,880 we're going to be with the cards when you deliver them. 158 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:45,320 » Yeah, it's actually I was just telling her we're changing the wires so we moved 159 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,640 the deliveries up a week. It's going to say in there in bold not to use the 160 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:52,920 cards next week. Originally we were going to deliver them 161 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:55,480 next week, but weather plays in and they could 162 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,280 I'm waiting for you. So 163 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,400 So we'll get them. >> Okay. 164 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,960 But it it looked like it had a lot of information on it. It was good. So the 165 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,960 residents will will know kind of what they can and can't put in there and what 166 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:10,640 to do. So >> So knowing that 167 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:14,960 what do we do with the L and R's 168 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,400 cardboard cans? When do they pick them? You know? 169 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,360 Nobody cares. 170 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:30,400 Yeah. >> We delivered uh Riverside on Thursday. 171 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:35,040 And they were in Riverside today picking up and they kind of had the same thing 172 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,960 going into it. So simple for you. 173 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,600 » What's that? >> We're going to start picking on them if 174 00:10:43,839 --> 00:10:48,920 they aren't here in a week. >> Well 175 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:54,760 I think the residents need to know when they're going to come pick them up. Like 176 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:58,200 it says we put ours inside. So >> Yeah, they need to stay out until we 177 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,520 disappear. That's those. >> Okay. Okay. 178 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,520 » I'm on it. 179 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:07,080 » Okay, let's vote to approve this service. 180 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,880 With Smith. >> Council person Dean? 181 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,640 » Yes. >> Noel? Yes. 182 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 » Forehand? >> Yes. 183 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,480 » Sexton? >> Yes. 184 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:22,280 » All right, resolution 2688 approving the Cedar County Hazard Mitigation Plan with 185 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,960 the city. Motion to approve. 186 00:11:22,839 --> 00:11:27,120 » Thank you. >> Thanks, guys. 187 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:27,120 » Thank you. 188 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:35,320 » Need a second on that. >> Second. 189 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:38,280 » So I go to this um EMA 911 meetings every quarter, I think it is in Tipton, 190 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:42,200 and every 5 years the 191 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:47,840 they have to rewrite we have to rewrite our hazard mitigation plan. 192 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:51,360 And this is I didn't even read through it this time. 193 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,600 » It helps to feed them. >> Yeah. 194 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,520 » So, good to hear. Yeah. >> That's great. 195 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,360 » Pretty much the same. >> Yeah. I agree. 196 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:04,080 » Yeah. >> We have to adopt this, otherwise 197 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:08,200 FEMA may not >> I'll approve. 198 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,800 » Dean. >> Do I hear a motion? 199 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,480 » Yes. >> Let's vote. 200 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,000 » Councilperson Noel? Yes. Dean? >> Yes. 201 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,560 » Sexton? >> Yes. 202 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:20,800 » Worthington? >> Yes. 203 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:26,240 » All right, ordinance, first reading, uh water rates, chapter 92. 204 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:30,680 This will add the uh 205 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:34,640 2% annual increase from now on. 206 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:38,480 » And that really just matches it up with the sewer. So, now we don't have to 207 00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:41,400 change it every time. This one didn't. This one just had the 208 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:45,640 effective rates for the for the different years on it, but it didn't say 209 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:51,320 anything for after 2027. The sewer does say we have that 2% for 210 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,960 every year, for every July 1st after, so this will match it up. 211 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,520 » I need a motion first. >> So moved. 212 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,440 » Second. >> And then let's vote. 213 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,800 Go ahead, Alicia. >> Um 214 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,160 Councilperson Dean? >> Yes. 215 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,440 » Sexton? >> Yes. 216 00:13:06,839 --> 00:13:10,880 » Worthington? >> Yes. 217 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,880 » Noel? Yes. 218 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,680 » All right, resolution 2689 approving a general agreement between the United 219 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:21,280 States Department of the Interior and city 220 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:28,000 uh regarding snow removal, road striping, uh brine production, and 221 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:33,200 some other minor things. So, this is what we do every year. 222 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,720 Some of I got 223 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:42,480 I have a question for you. Is Is this more than This is an increase? 224 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:45,160 » Yes, so we saw you there. >> Yeah, so we have to So we would get more 225 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:49,080 money. >> Yeah, it was 8,500. 226 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,200 » That's the last time. >> Yeah. 227 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,000 » Okay. >> And they did what we were just talking 228 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:57,000 about today. The last one they did because they were looking at budget 229 00:13:55,680 --> 00:14:01,040 constraints and it was right after the shutdown and everything. They only did a 230 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,200 6-month term. That's why we're doing this so quick again. 231 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:07,120 » This is for one more year. >> So the last one would have went through 232 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,680 July 28th. Now this one will start August 3rd. 233 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,680 » Yeah, so how long is it? >> A year. 234 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,160 » Yeah. >> It's one year. 235 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:18,920 » And they And what was it? 4,200, I think, the other one. So it would have 236 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:23,280 been half of what we got last time. So >> Good. 237 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:26,920 Anybody else is >> Yeah, cost of salt should Turkey 238 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,600 trucking in here is fine. So we're we'll get our 239 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,960 We'll get our dollar. This might be a bad year. 240 00:14:32,839 --> 00:14:36,640 » You don't know that. >> I don't know what they're talking about. 241 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:41,200 Could be bad. >> A wise uh vote, please. 242 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,480 » Uh Councilperson Sexton. >> Yes. 243 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,760 » Ingram. >> Yes. 244 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,320 » No. >> Yes. 245 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,760 » Or again. >> Yes. 246 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:59,760 » All right, so on the corner of 5th Street and College, a uh sidewalk 247 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:03,120 and I broken up because of a tree that the city took down. 248 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:08,760 » Yes. >> This happened several years ago before 249 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:14,240 right before I started. Um 250 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:18,200 then the East Side phase one and two happened 251 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:23,360 and there was some disagreements 252 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:31,560 that we didn't do our drainage correctly. We had Eric and his guys 253 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:37,240 come shoot elevations and they matched the specs 254 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:41,480 that we put out. Um but the individual still won't let us on his property to 255 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,280 fix it. But I thought the best way to take care 256 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:49,640 of this would be to just give him a quote and a check. 257 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:54,160 Um I don't know how you guys feel about it, but 258 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:58,760 we did kind of do a wrong four or five years ago and feel like we need to 259 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:03,400 correct that and that's there's a quote right there with it. Um so he doesn't 260 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,080 All he has to do is call Hatfield and they'll get them. 261 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:13,120 » So we would give him $2,400 >> You got to make sure he does the work 262 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,560 though. >> Yes, correct. We would give him half and 263 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,480 a half probably. >> So it'd be held in escrow? 264 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,680 » No, you just have an agreement says he doesn't do it and there has to be a way 265 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:26,360 to do it. So I think we could do it or we could say the check's waiting for you 266 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,320 when the work is done. >> Good. 267 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:33,640 » So that's good with me. >> Yeah. You pretty much Or do we pay 268 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:36,640 Hatfield directly? >> Once the work's done. 269 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:41,440 » We need a vote. >> Wouldn't that be the simplest way? 270 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:45,520 » Maybe. We got to close though. >> Always call Brian and see which side 271 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,440 » Danny would be the one because he doesn't want people on his property. Let 272 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:50,960 him get the people off the property first. 273 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:55,160 » Yeah, he won't let us on the property. >> So I would say let him 274 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,720 do it. But I totally agree with holding off at least some of the payment till 275 00:16:56,839 --> 00:17:01,520 it's completed because >> So we don't do the attic again. 276 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:04,600 » Yeah. No attic or attic. >> We don't want to pay him and then 277 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:08,120 nothing gets done. So he's got to get the work done first. 278 00:17:06,439 --> 00:17:11,360 » Even if he lines it up they can invoice us. 279 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:15,480 They can pay for it if you're if you're not wanting to give it directly to them. 280 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:18,480 » Well, we need Hatfield to get paid, too. We don't want them to 281 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:22,839 » That's what I mean. If he lines it up, you know, it's then you got you won't 282 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:28,000 get a 1099 from us if we keep paying directly you get the 1099 283 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,000 from so let's figure out 284 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:34,680 I'm also just kind of curious how many feet was this we know right off the 285 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:39,800 it does I don't know how many feet but it does say in the quote how many panels 286 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:45,480 in that piece of paper next to your three squares would be about 12 feet 287 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,720 soon I mean five square feet 288 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:56,000 and stands 20 feet and so stands yes pretty good progress 289 00:17:54,280 --> 00:18:01,960 I don't know concrete is expensive 290 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:06,040 oh so that's normal you need that big one 291 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,680 I thought it was five nothing 292 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:09,680 nothing 293 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:18,880 okay so where we at let's this needs to go away let's do this 294 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:24,600 okay we're going to agree on that we got a 295 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,600 consensus we're going to agree on that 296 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:31,800 all right Adam anything no that is it I just wanted to cover 297 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:37,600 that issue it's been been trying to get it over with 298 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,600 nothing for me 299 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,120 I'm Eric 300 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:45,680 I'm pretty good bolts and miss the shortest 301 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:50,240 we know we can get five way for eight one 302 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:56,040 you can tell me you can tell Cole and we can do extra gravel let's do that 303 00:18:53,720 --> 00:19:01,280 you got a drill uh staff anybody 304 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:05,640 Jessica um I thought I was going to get in the 305 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:10,280 discussion but for the email that went out 306 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:17,000 um in regards to landlords and us calling them right um 307 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:21,720 just so you guys kind of know where that is. We currently have almost 300 308 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:25,040 rentals. Um 309 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:32,000 so for me to stop and call every landlord every time somebody moves in or 310 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:39,400 moves out is not feasible. Um August 1st alone, we had 21 move-ins. 311 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:43,560 I did call eight other cities that ranged from, you know, the same size to 312 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:49,480 larger and there was only one city out of those 313 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:55,240 eight that called their landlords because they had to. 314 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:59,520 Um water is sanctioned different than electric. 315 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:04,400 Tipton has electric with theirs, so they have to call in order to switch things 316 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:08,640 over. That's the only reason they do it and they are also the only one that has 317 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:14,400 two people doing utility billing. Um just so you kind of know where where 318 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:17,400 we are on that. Plus, Iowa code uh 348.844E 319 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:27,120 um we're not required to let landlords know 320 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:30,320 when they're late. They can submit a letter. 321 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:34,440 Uh like Roger, if you wanted to know every time your landlord was late, he 322 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:37,120 just write you one time letter and every time they're late, you would get the 323 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,280 notice. >> So a landlord has to sign up for that. 324 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,000 » A landlord has to sign up. >> That's how Iowa City does also. 325 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:48,280 » Yep. Yep. And just like the lien 326 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:54,640 exemption there is a form on our website that they 327 00:20:51,840 --> 00:21:00,000 can fill out so that if their um tenant doesn't pay 328 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,960 the landlord is not held liable. We do go after them through the setoff 329 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,920 program. >> So the issue 330 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,280 of resident owes 331 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,680 something entails >> Yeah. 332 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:15,520 » the tenant >> The tenant called in and moved out. Told 333 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:20,760 me they were moving out at one date. They stayed there a month later. So, it 334 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,160 was already switched over at that time. >> to the landlord 335 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,120 » Yes. >> Yeah. 336 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:33,000 » Yeah. So, he is requiring phone calls. He did bring up Alliant in his email, 337 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:37,680 which obviously, like I said, Alliant Electric has different sanctions than 338 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:40,640 water. Therefore, they have to. So, I just want to want to choose the 339 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:43,000 other side of things as >> Yeah. 340 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:48,160 » So, I have a quick question. >> Yeah. 341 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:52,840 » Wouldn't it be a deal where when a tenant signs up for water, 342 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,800 they have to give the landlord's 343 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,720 email and 344 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:03,160 when they have their water shut, um, when 345 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,360 they stop service, 346 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:11,160 that you can just send it email 347 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,160 so-and-so >> to every landlord each time somebody 348 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:19,480 moves out? >> I mean, it's like it's already attached 349 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:22,800 to it. If you just send it, it'd be No, I don't need I mean, just an email. 350 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,800 quick email >> Yeah, but she doesn't want to write an 351 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:29,480 email every time. It needs to be like a It would have to be a 352 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:32,720 pretty terminal wording and verbage and all that 353 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:37,040 that she would send to the landlord. But, we're going to have 6 354 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,320 or 800 landlords or tenants here pretty soon. 355 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,280 » Yeah. We are. 356 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,960 » And all of them are going to be under one landlord. 357 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,760 That's true. And then >> He knows the same. 358 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:52,960 » I know how to He's used to working or working with in that system. 359 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:56,600 » So, what do they >> What I'm saying instead of a phone call, 360 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,840 an attachment to an email, >> call 361 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,480 » just >> But 362 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:05,960 » so-and-so address >> So, why why are we responsible for that 363 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,600 then and not the landlords? Because if the landlord wants that 364 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:11,880 » customer service. >> Yeah. 365 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:14,560 » I understand that, but but you see all the other things that I do. 366 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,320 » Yeah. >> And then you see the amount of 367 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:21,840 turnaround. I would be doing nothing but answering 368 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,800 phones and sending out emails to landlords all the time. 369 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:31,680 » Especially when they're as big as this one. They have like property management 370 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:35,160 companies that help to like they can employ their 371 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:41,280 like super staff in there. >> The other part is that if we do that, 372 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:44,880 have to give notice, for some reason we miss it. 373 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,840 You you know, now we're responsible since we had an obligation to 374 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:53,320 » Well, it all comes expected. >> Expected, so 375 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,320 um 376 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:59,680 I guess I see it as it's it stops somebody from coming in doing exactly 377 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,800 what they did there. >> And this 378 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,920 » And >> In the 3 years that we're here, that was 379 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,920 the one time it happened. 380 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,840 » Have the other cities said how they handle it? 381 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:18,000 » They switch it over instantly. Um I did ask 382 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:23,200 um along the lines of do you contact your 383 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:26,720 landlord? No, some of some people actually give them 5 days after they 384 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,520 move out until they give them 5 days and if nobody 385 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:34,920 calls in then it goes back to the landlord's name. 386 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:37,680 Um they never call except for Tipton. Um and then it just keeps 387 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:43,200 going on. >> Give me a list of those cities. 388 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:49,320 » Yeah, I called Tipton, Tiffany, Wilton, uh DeWitt, Walcott, Mount Vernon, Solon. 389 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:53,400 I did call Blue Grass, but they don't do water and Wheatland. So, just trying to 390 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:58,560 get different different um 391 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:02,600 not just ones that fit ours. And none of them called our landlords to 392 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:07,280 let them know, "Hey, your tenant moved out. Is this right? What is the date?" 393 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:12,320 » Is there something we can have the tenant sign that says that that they 394 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:17,200 must when they move out they also must notify their tenant their landlord of 395 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:22,400 them moving out. And that'd be hard to enforce. 396 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:26,600 » I don't get them to come into the office all the time. I have to take their 397 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:31,720 payments over the phone like their um deposit over the phone. They don't 398 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,720 typically come in to fill out a 399 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:40,120 » Okay, so status quo is it reverts to the tenant's name when the 400 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:44,600 the landlord's name >> when the tenant moves out unless there's 401 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,960 somebody moving in right afterwards. Yeah. 402 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:53,040 » So in other words a landlord knowing that the tenant is 403 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:58,640 moving out could actually call you say, "I got a tenant moving out. 404 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:02,720 Well, we're moving out this date. And I got a new tenant coming in 405 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,640 the first." >> Yeah. 406 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:09,920 » Okay, so there again, that's time on your phone. 407 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,600 » But that puts the ownership on the landlord. 408 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,440 » It's also what the damage deposit is for. If 409 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,520 as a as a landlord you make sure that water meter is water 410 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:24,000 bill paid. You can wait 30 days. You got 45 days. I 411 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,120 know. I think. You have 30 days. You charge the You 412 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,800 don't give the full 413 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:34,000 Yeah. It's on damage deposit for that. 414 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,560 Especially with the amount of doors, you know. Especially with the amount of 415 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,600 doors, you know, like you said we're adding the 416 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:45,480 hundreds and hundreds of more doors. I mean 417 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:48,480 you know, and the each apartment is going to be handled individually with 418 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:53,360 those the same culprit. >> Right. 419 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:57,040 » So I I I would say status quo is people would have me before. So I'm 420 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:04,240 » Just to kind of ask kind of over what the office is thinking with the 421 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,200 » All right. Thank you. >> Um I also have something. 422 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:13,960 » Go ahead. >> So, we were 423 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:19,960 discussing the like West Branch Village and and with our standard increases that 424 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,440 we have every year, the water and sewer. Um 425 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:26,880 the agreement that we have with them currently for the sewer for the new site 426 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,520 of the trailer 427 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,640 » Yeah. >> area. 428 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:38,520 We have we charge them $50 a month per unit. 429 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:44,040 That has not increased the entire time. It has been done this for 3 years. So, 430 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:48,080 the discussion was should that also be a 2% increase every July like we do at 431 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,400 Castle Board and like with everything else. 432 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,920 That's not >> We started doing that 433 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,720 never No, there was vacant lots there. We were charging people 434 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:00,000 » Yeah, but we never charged them until they had the trailer on that lot. So, 435 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,920 they they didn't get charged for every lot. They just got charged for the 436 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,040 trailer. >> Okay. The trailer was good. 437 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:10,600 But yeah, it's 438 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,320 We don't have any way of knowing how much 439 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,320 they're using. 440 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:22,040 » I might be just the question if $50 is enough. 441 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,280 » We had actually talked about it and no. I mean, of course they're under the 442 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,240 impression that we're overcharging and when we looked at it, 443 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:33,840 I think they'll be very surprised when we when the meter is 444 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,920 actually installed, which still is not installed. We've been talk working on 445 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,800 for how long? >> So, 446 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:41,160 » I think they'll see how much they're truly 447 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:45,200 » That's equivalent almost to a $50 water bill cuz they're about equal. 448 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:50,280 Sewer water. >> Sewer is $18.92. 449 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,760 » What's 18? There's 7000 loads. >> Water is 10. 450 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,480 » 11. >> 10 3 or yeah, I just went up. I'm sorry. 451 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,280 I don't have the rates. >> It's way under what 452 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,160 » Yeah. >> It's way under what it should be. 453 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,760 » It is. >> So then we have no way of knowing how 454 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,760 much water they've used. >> No, we don't. 455 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,800 » Are they charging that to the the tenant? The tenant the water? 456 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,840 » That's on them. >> Or they are. 457 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,160 » There's I mean >> They're probably charging them more. 458 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,280 They're making money. They're making money off you. All right, so let's we 459 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,880 got to change that. >> Okay, so I'll bring something next time. 460 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,600 » 100 or something. Yeah. 461 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,120 Let's wait. >> We got We got to discuss that. Maybe 462 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,600 it's a deal where we make it so it hurts. 463 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:35,800 » Yeah. So they get the >> Till they get get that meter fixed. 464 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,800 » Yeah, I agree. 465 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,720 » More than that, okay. 466 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,080 » Okay. >> You and Adam? 467 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,560 » Okay. >> Yeah. 468 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,440 » I'll bring it I'll bring it back next time. Um one of the thing and this one 469 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:50,240 just more more for information. You were talking about like the emergency 470 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:53,120 management plan and stuff. I did uh last week do a training 471 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:58,560 with the other area clerks and uh the Cedar 472 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:03,800 County EMA and and now set up to where when we have 473 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:08,280 like a water main break, we'll order so emergency 474 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:13,760 um I can go into the rave system and be able to shoot out like a text message to 475 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,480 our residents so that they know. >> That's cool. 476 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,480 » And it can we can even narrow it down 477 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,320 » Everybody with a cell phone? >> Yep. 478 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:25,960 If they're on a cell phone, but I mean if it goes through a cell tower and it 479 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,560 would go to each go to cell phones. So and we can even narrow it down so like 480 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:35,040 let's say it's the west side of town but not the east side, we could try to get 481 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,440 it into that area. So 482 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,120 just so you know, FYI. >> That's pretty cool. 483 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,920 » It is pretty cool. Yeah, and then the system is pretty user-friendly. 484 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,640 » Mhm. >> Good thought. Yeah. 485 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,640 Yeah. 486 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,200 » All right. Thank you. Any other staff? 487 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:57,760 Mayor and council, I got two things. I learned just an hour ago that the 488 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:02,360 library has achieved a 489 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:06,440 level three >> Yes. 490 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:10,600 » accolade status from the state library board. 491 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:16,320 Not turning it library, but it's a very high uh 492 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:21,480 kudos to the library. And they have a record number of people going in and 493 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:25,480 doing kids, adults. It's a good library. 494 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,520 So, hats off to Jessica and the staff of the library. 495 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:32,440 » Yeah. Yeah, we just um received our 496 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:37,200 accreditation from the State Library of Iowa. And we're accredited at tier 497 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,800 three, which is the highest level in the state that they award. 498 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:44,400 Um and it's in a three-year cycle. So, 499 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:49,280 we've uh managed to maintain it for the last three years. 500 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,880 » All right. Congratulations. Good job. >> Thank you. 501 00:31:52,520 --> 00:32:00,520 » Um last thing I have, Hoover Hometown Days went off 502 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,520 extremely well, perfect weather. 503 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,600 More people than I've ever seen in town. >> Sorry. 504 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:11,200 » So, um it went off really well. The The library 505 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:15,360 opening is a big success. Um that drew a lot of people. I got a 506 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,120 letter from a a team from Tennessee played Hoover Ball. They'd never even 507 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:23,880 been there before. They just showed up. 508 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:28,120 Couple old guys and 12-year-old They got beat up pretty good, but they 509 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,120 were thrilled to death. 510 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,480 He wrote me a nice letter. He's actually a judge in Tennessee. 511 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,880 Um um 512 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:43,600 congratulating me on our little small West Branch, so it felt good. So. 513 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:48,160 Um, that's all I got. Anybody anything else? 514 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,960 » I got a couple things. Uh, during Hoover Days, there's an 515 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:59,200 incident where the e-bike ran into a pedestrian, and 516 00:32:54,520 --> 00:33:02,520 the rider of the e-bike was under 16. Um, 517 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:06,120 I've had come up with a couple ideas 518 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,240 that may help out this. Number one, I see a 519 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:14,240 lot of these kids riding around without a helmet on. 520 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,600 Can we make 521 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:21,720 15 and under wear a helmet on the e-bike? 522 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:27,280 » Well, this goes back a long history. If you remember Carolyn Found's injury or 523 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:32,120 tragedy or bill, after that, they tried to push to have under 18 have helmets, 524 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:36,840 and the legislature pushed back and said freedom. So, they didn't want to So, the 525 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:40,760 question is if we do something. There's There's nothing in the state law, so in 526 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:44,480 theory, home rule you should be able to do it. The question what the 527 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,760 legislature's been doing lately is if you try to do something they don't like, 528 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:51,400 they just outlaw it the next session. But, that is 529 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:56,120 an idea. If I remember correctly, the planning organization in Johnson 530 00:33:53,680 --> 00:34:00,120 County is looking at rules that apply to everybody, and there I think the Des 531 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:03,120 Moines planning agency has passed some rules. I got I can take a 532 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:07,200 look at those and see what they've got in place for those 533 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:11,040 scooters, bikes, you know, you name it. The The problem is the state law 534 00:34:09,399 --> 00:34:15,440 definitions are not keeping up with the technology, so you know, some of these 535 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,560 things can go too fast, so they're not a moped or whatever, but some of them 536 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:23,120 don't have seats, so they're not a motorcycle or or even a motor vehicle 537 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:27,760 cuz they don't have a seat, but they're is the the definitions 538 00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:31,159 the definitions that probably a motor vehicle cuz it's taking 539 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:36,040 a human somewhere, but there's definitions and the regulations but 540 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,600 state law are not keeping up right now. >> Well, they they actually had a bill last 541 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,320 session but I don't think it went through. 542 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:45,080 » So, I can I can pull those up and see what their other people are doing but we 543 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:50,120 can try it and see what you know >> Can we make at least can we make an 544 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:53,280 ordinance and only one rider per bike? >> Yeah, they 545 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:57,280 I'd have to look at that cuz there's state law that says you know, bikes can 546 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,080 big bikes can do pretty much anything that a cop you know, you can't tell a 547 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,640 bike to go off the street. >> But these aren't licensed, right? 548 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:08,000 » I understand that but like I said, the the state law does not does not keeping 549 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,000 up with what's going on. So, I So, I can I'll look into I'll look 550 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,680 into that. What was Did you have another idea? Just the number of riders? They 551 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,560 don't have more than one on 552 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:22,080 » More than one on on bike. >> I you have to look into that 553 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,760 too. That one might be a little more problematic. 554 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:27,040 » I think you're going to have problems with that, you know, anything that 555 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,400 conflicts with Iowa law and that's I think that's a problem with 556 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,920 local police departments. We're kind of wait for the Iowa legislature to catch 557 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:37,920 up right now. You know, that's the trouble with helmets and stuff. I you 558 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,720 know, it'd be definitely be an experiment. It 559 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,480 would. But 560 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,360 I might we're we're trying. In fact, I think there was a bicycle 561 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,080 accident here um 562 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:55,200 this to someone who got run by uh Herbalife somewhere I heard but uh 563 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:58,760 fortunately very minor injuries but >> But there were two people killed in 564 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:03,640 Cedar Rapids last week. >> I think we need to get serious and I I 565 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:08,920 would really think I mean, for instance, I've heard from a business person 566 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,440 there's e-bike going down the sidewalk uh in the business district. Now, that 567 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,640 is illegal. >> That is illegal and it would be a 568 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:18,000 current ordinance I would assume. >> And I know we had a bike rodeo or the 569 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:22,080 last club I think had a bike rodeo in the summer and that was that was a good 570 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:25,880 start, I believe but I you know, I would like to task police department in doing 571 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:31,040 some more education uh in the community in whether it's 572 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:35,960 newspaper articles or uh giving programs to schools or something like that. 573 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:40,480 Uh it's almost a daily occurrence out there when you see a bicycle break in 574 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,560 the law and oh it's just It is getting frightening and it's just 575 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:49,400 a matter of time before somebody gets hurt. 576 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:53,680 Um so I just I just And also it's called classified e-bike cuz it bike that goes 577 00:36:51,600 --> 00:37:00,040 under 20 mile hour. And my my bike goes 578 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,040 I stop stop sign by the way but 579 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,800 Yes. All right. Yeah, I do mostly night actually. 580 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:10,960 Uh but I think we need to do some education as well that I'm afraid and 581 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,120 and I know the police department doesn't want to give an 8-year-old ticket but I 582 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,960 think if I was on the police department I think and give a break law I think I 583 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,760 call the parent and have the parent come pick the kid. 584 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:26,240 » Haven't some cities gone to to the parents responsible 585 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:29,120 » That's a That's a That's a 586 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,800 Yeah, I think some of the quad cities have that 587 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,000 parental responsibility ordinance Davenport maybe? 588 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:37,200 » I think so. >> Yeah. 589 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:41,080 » Isn't there a community over by Des Moines maybe Waukee that recently did an 590 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,480 ordinance for e-bikes? >> I think Waukee I think they Yeah, I 591 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,040 think probably Waukee. >> Was it Waukee? I thought it was 592 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,680 South. >> Cuz well cuz the 593 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:54,960 the planning organization in Des Moines has has gotten uh 594 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,960 I can pull those cuz I think I saw one of those ordinances just uh I'll send it 595 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,080 around I'll send it around to everybody so you can take a look at it and see 596 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,000 what you'll see what you think cuz obviously 597 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,800 I don't think there's a state law that says you can't 598 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,920 helmets are not allowed You can't force somebody to wear a helmet but that 599 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,440 doesn't mean they won't come back later and do that. I don't know. 600 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:18,640 » You know we don't force them to wear a helmet on a motorcycle. 601 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,160 » I mean well what I'm saying >> I don't know if these young kids there 602 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,400 are wrecking You're talking about the 18 and then 603 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:27,280 » going to be a constitutional issue. It's going to come back. The Supreme Court's 604 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,120 going to say that parents have the ability to raise their children the way 605 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,800 that they want and if they're not going to require them to wear a helmet, that's 606 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,080 the way that it's going to >> or get vaccinated or essential 607 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,240 » it's all like freedom of speech, first amendment stuff. 608 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,880 » I think there was some the stuff in Des Moines may have more with where you can 609 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:47,240 ride them on the bike path and go. Like that's why they've got trails and stuff 610 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:50,840 like that where you have pedestrians and these bikes or whatever, I think. I'll 611 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,480 I'll I'll pull the ordinance and then send them around send them around so you 612 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,920 can >> waiting for an ordinance that that might 613 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:59,800 have some teeth to it that seems to be makes sense before maybe we might adopt 614 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,880 something like that. >> I was just Yeah, I was just going to 615 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:08,160 show it around just to show what you have, what I've seen and like I said, I 616 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:12,080 I know my MPO J C's working on something that they want to have all the cities in 617 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,760 Johnson County pass which would kind of make sense to have the same rules for 618 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,400 everybody. >> It's crazy but you know, all these 619 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:23,200 e-bikes like we talked about 4 mph over 25. You see them now. So then 620 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,920 you put somebody half my weight on that thing, that thing will 621 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:32,040 go 30 mph. I know it's crazy but speed limit on 622 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:35,760 sidewalks, I mean it just but I think we need to slow these kids 623 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:40,760 somewhere or another down and I wish the legislature would uh 624 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,120 be more aggressive on this because I think unfortunately it's going to 625 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,120 somebody's going to have to get killed before anyone does anything. 626 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,040 » Put an age limit on it would be the best thing. 627 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,960 » Yeah, they um they mean you these scooters, I mean you go down the road 628 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:56,480 and you'll get passed like you're standing still in a car. The guy who in 629 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,920 Coralville has a YouTube channel where he's going like 80 or 90 in those 630 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,840 scooters burning down the street. Hopefully he never hits a pothole or 631 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,120 something else but >> If a police officer gets them going over 632 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,800 20 mph, I would think it no longer ceases to be an e-bike in my now becomes 633 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,200 a a motorcycle or a 634 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,640 moped type of thing. >> different tiers. I was reading up on it 635 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,720 a a bit and we talked about it in one of our Tuesday meetings, too. There's 636 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:25,920 There's like a tier 1, 2, 3, and 4. And tier 1 and 2 are supposed to be under 637 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:32,320 the 20 mph. Those are more of like your like 10 to 18 or 10 to 16. And And 638 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:36,480 there's not an age limit on that one, really. Once you get to the tier 3 and 639 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:41,280 tier 4, it's supposed to be only a licensed driver. And then I think even 640 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:46,560 tier 4, that's where you can get into your 20 to 20 mph. It's supposed Is it 641 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:49,560 supposed to even be over 18? >> I It's I know it's at least licensed 642 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,560 driver. So >> I don't know. The problem is a lot of 643 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:57,120 those manufacturers aren't really clear on the speed on those. And so police 644 00:40:54,520 --> 00:41:00,920 officers may not know what tier Yeah. I'm all in. 645 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:04,320 It's not just e-bikes. I saw a young girl on a little 646 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,880 Well, I don't even know what you call it. A little skateboard. 647 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:12,800 » Yeah. Scooters. Yeah. >> Where they Where they went across this 648 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,560 crosswalk just like just that fast. And I just 649 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,080 » And those things really have to have definitions. 650 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:20,200 » Yeah. That's what I'm saying. >> And there's no seat in that you know, 651 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,880 that was the whole The seat thing is kind of destroys all the definitions. 652 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,840 » Little tiny wheels. >> Yeah. Little tiny wheels that go really 653 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,320 fast. And a hole in the sidewalk. >> So 654 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,840 » Or hit a rock. >> I'll I'll be sending around what I see 655 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:36,720 in the Twin Metro area and then I'll be testing 656 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:39,560 take a look and then we'll revisit. >> Okay. Anybody anything else? 657 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,800 » I have one more thing. What's going on with the pickleball course? 658 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,920 » We're waiting to be painted. >> We've been waiting for a long time. 659 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,960 We're looking to finish up. Don't know. 660 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,760 I'll follow up. You can follow up. 661 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,520 » It's a good question. >> There's a weed patch around the boards 662 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,800 and there's no nets or anything like that. Um 663 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,840 » Right. I'll follow up. I'll give you some information. 664 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:07,560 » It's time to ice out pretty soon. See. 665 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:11,040 » I know Aaron, um they wanted to build a bench or put a 666 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,360 bench in and she didn't like the quality of it because it's going to be our 667 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:18,760 bench. She said, "No, we can't do that bench." 668 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:25,480 I don't know I don't know what they're after with that so. 669 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:25,480 She kind of mixed what they proposed. 670 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,160 All right, motion to adjourn anyone? >> So moved. 671 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,520 » Second. >> All in favor say "Aye". 672 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,520 » Aye.