[0:10] Here you are.
Regular council meeting of August 17th.
[0:15] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:20] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:26] justice for all.
>> I am a
[0:30] » I am too.
[0:33] » Uh let's do roll call, please.
>> Councilperson Sexton?
[0:37] » Here.
>> Horne?
[0:38] » Here.
>> Dean?
[0:39] » Here.
>> Noll?
[0:41] » Here.
>> I am here.
[0:43] » No, ma'am.
>> No, ma'am.
[0:45] » Uh motion, please, to approve the agenda
tonight.
[0:48] » So moved.
>> Second.
[0:51] » All those in favor, say I.
>> I.
[0:55] » Um the consent agenda consists of the
minutes from the August 3rd regular
[1:00] council meeting, um a class C liquor
license for Mexico Lindo,
[1:06] and the claims, the most recent claims.
Motion to approve.
[1:12] » So moved.
>> Second.
[1:16] » Any questions, anyone?
[1:23] Um
Okay, hearing none, let's vote.
[1:27] » Councilperson Dean?
>> Yes.
[1:29] » Horne?
>> Yes.
[1:30] » Sexton?
>> Yes.
[1:32] » Noll?
>> Yes.
[1:35] » Okay, presentations, open forum. Anyone
want to talk to us online or
[1:41] in the crowd?
You can say so now.
[1:47] Um
Hearing none, we'll move on.
[1:55] Uh all right, resolution 2684
approving an invoice in the amount of
[1:59] 231 dollars and 49 cents to EOC.
For the widening project.
[2:07] Motion.
>> So
[2:09] » Second that.
[2:13] » They're going to keep This is number
like 20 of
[2:16] » We've got I did look it up to see. We
have
[2:19] » 10,000 dollars to go?
>> 10,824 dollars left.
[2:24] And
>> dollars and
[2:25] » times. Several of them have been
very small amounts.
[2:28] » I know.
>> We'll come back to you in a little time
[2:31] about
>> Mhm.
[2:33] » Can you all explain what this one's for?
>> Yeah, sure we can.
[2:37] » So
>> Uh I believe this is for the sign that
[2:40] went up as part of the funding source
and IDEALS. We had to install two signs
[2:46] on the public forum that basically
described the project, showed the
[2:50] project financing stuff. I believe
that's what this invoice is.
[2:53] » So those two signs That would be
delivered to the city.
[3:00] » You've been getting a lot of those
invoices.
[3:03] We don't know when my thing will
>> Give me a Let's vote, please. Let's
[3:06] vote.
>> Councilperson Councilperson Dean?
[3:09] » Yes.
>> No.
[3:10] » Yes.
>> Horgan?
[3:12] » Yes.
>> Starkstedt?
[3:13] » Yes.
[3:16] » All right, resolution 2685 passing by
number two in the amount of 496,618
[3:22] dollars
15 cents to Triple B for the West Main
[3:27] Street overlay.
This is only number two.
[3:30] » A
[3:34] » Need a motion.
>> So moved.
[3:36] » Second.
[3:39] » So
Yeah. Uh what we got on our computer it
[3:45] says it's 459 and on the sheet it's 496.
Which is correct?
[3:51] » What's the difference?
>> What's the sheet say?
[3:56] 699
[4:00] » 496 619
>> 61915 cents
[4:08] Okay. Okay.
So, what I read is correct.
[4:15] That's what I mean.
The line is not
[4:17] » The staff sheet is not. It is on the
resolution but the staff sheet is in
[4:21] third person.
>> We all get dyslexic once in a while.
[4:24] » I did not know that.
The resolution does say 496. So, if you
[4:28] sign that we're fine and the statement
has 496.
[4:32] » All right. Any questions, comments? I
think they're doing well. I don't know
[4:35] why they didn't show today though.
They're all working today.
[4:39] » They did.
>> I think they were cleaning up the office
[4:41] or something.
>> I think they're closed.
[4:43] » They should be done by the end of the
week.
[4:44] » The school starts Monday.
[4:48] Right?
>> Yes. Yes, school starts
[4:50] » Monday, I believe. I believe.
>> Will it will it be open?
[4:53] » I believe so. They're shooting for this
week is what they're telling me.
[4:56] » So
Well
[4:57] » It might be closed.
Ceiling and stuff will have to get done
[5:01] probably next week.
[5:04] » Okay. I got a let's vote. We got a
motion to approve. So, let's vote,
[5:08] please.
>> Councilperson Dean
[5:11] » Yes.
>> No. Yes. Sexton
[5:13] » Yes.
>> Ortega
[5:15] » Yes.
[5:17] » All right. Resolution 2686 change order
number three in the amount of $3,629
[5:23] and 73 cents
for the overlay project.
[5:28] Must be extending a storm sewer 6 ft or
something.
[5:33] That what that is?
>> Yeah, I brought some pictures. I didn't
[5:37] know if Dave shared with you. So, we
went and asked to Matt and Matt agreed
[5:41] and approved it that
this needed to be done. I didn't plan on
[5:46] copies but you'll have to shoot it.
>> That's right. It's um
[5:51] » So, basically
it's a little short. It just need to be
[5:54] extended a little bit to get a width in
the road. So, we just plan to put a bend
[5:57] on it and extend it out just for safety
reasons. It just drops off pretty quick
[6:02] right there. So,
>> Do I hear a motion for that?
[6:06] » So moved.
>> Second.
[6:10] » Thank you.
[6:12] All right.
A little minor adjustment. It happens.
[6:18] Any questions?
Let's go ahead and vote.
[6:21] » Councilperson Noble?
>> Yes.
[6:23] » Assistant?
>> Yes.
[6:24] » Morgan?
>> Yes.
[6:25] » Dean?
>> Yes.
[6:29] » All right. Solid waste. 20 resolution
2687 approving a agreement for solid
[6:35] waste and recycling services with Smith
Sanitation.
[6:40] » So moved.
>> Second.
[6:46] » Let's get this done.
Move on.
[6:52] Um any questions? I I kind of breezed
through the contract. I didn't really
[6:56] study it a whole lot.
>> Just for the public
[7:01] notice, what's what's the timeline going
to be tonight
[7:05] » We've got probably 75% of our carts down
here ready to to deliver in North City
[7:09] Park. We're going to go Thursday, Friday
full days delivering and then it might
[7:14] bleed into Saturday if we don't I get it
done.
[7:17] So, it'll be it'll be this week.
>> So, is everybody getting the same cart
[7:20] that they they have now or is everybody
getting a new one? Okay.
[7:25] » It'll be on Facebook tomorrow.
>> What's that?
[7:29] » It'll be on Facebook tomorrow for the
residents about drop the dropping it off
[7:32] this week later this week.
>> All right.
[7:35] » I think the biggest thing too for the
residents to notice in this contract is
[7:39] it is a 6:00 a.m. start time rather than
7:00.
[7:41] » Yeah, I saw that.
>> We'll be
[7:44] We're going to be getting in and out of
town fairly quickly. We'll have either
[7:48] four or five trucks over here, but we'll
have a carrier load that is going to be
[7:51] here later in the day if there are
people that are
[7:54] setting out late as they're getting used
to things. So.
[7:57] » You're going to try to be consistent,
say start at one end of town to the
[8:01] other?
>> Same Same Same route every week.
[8:03] » Got that figured out.
>> We don't quite have it figured out yet.
[8:06] It'll be consistent every week, but with
three trucks starting on garbage, we
[8:11] can't necessarily start them all in the
same place.
[8:14] » Correct.
>> So, it's probably going to be something
[8:15] like
one starting up by the golf course, one
[8:18] starting on like Scott, and one starting
on Downey maybe, and then they all just
[8:22] work
towards towards the
[8:25] » The messages, have them out Thursday
night
[8:28] before 6:00 a.m.
>> That'd be best, yes.
[8:31] 6:00 a.m. to guarantee service.
>> And this started when again? When does
[8:36] it start?
First Friday in September?
[8:39] » Yeah, the Yeah, the 4th will be our
first service day.
[8:45] » A couple weeks ago you had talked about
you do appliance disposal.
[8:51] » Yes, we'll have a scheduled fee that
will have There will be stickers that
[8:54] are sold in town.
>> Uh-huh.
[8:55] » Um a lot like we did with Johnson County
Refuse, you know,
[8:59] a washer is 15 stickers say I'm just
throwing it out there. They'll put those
[9:03] 15 stickers on it and just set it out at
the curb. Our guys will let us know when
[9:07] they go by and see it that it needs to
be picked up and they'll get it done.
[9:10] » Perfect.
>> So, I don't have to call you ahead of
[9:12] time then.
>> If you want to, you can, just but no,
[9:15] you don't have to.
>> Where do the stickers get purchased here
[9:18] here in the city office?
>> You need to check
[9:21] » Here at Jack and Jill. Yeah.
>> Oh, Jack and Jill?
[9:23] » Yeah.
[9:26] » All right, I'm excited.
>> They also They also showed they sent to
[9:31] us uh
kind of a flyer that had
[9:34] » Yeah.
>> some information on it as well that
[9:36] we're going to be with the cards when
you deliver them.
[9:38] » Yeah, it's actually I was just telling
her we're changing the wires so we moved
[9:42] the deliveries up a week. It's going to
say in there in bold not to use the
[9:47] cards next week.
Originally we were going to deliver them
[9:50] next week, but weather plays in and they
could
[9:53] I'm waiting for you.
So
[9:56] So we'll get them.
>> Okay.
[9:59] But it it looked like it had a lot of
information on it. It was good. So the
[10:01] residents will will know kind of what
they can and can't put in there and what
[10:05] to do. So
>> So knowing that
[10:07] what do we do with the
L and R's
[10:12] cardboard cans? When do they pick them?
You know?
[10:17] Nobody cares.
[10:24] Yeah.
>> We delivered uh Riverside on Thursday.
[10:28] And they were in Riverside today picking
up and they kind of had the same thing
[10:32] going into it. So
simple for you.
[10:42] » What's that?
>> We're going to start picking on them if
[10:43] they aren't here in a week.
>> Well
[10:47] I think the residents need to know when
they're going to come pick them up. Like
[10:50] it says we put ours inside. So
>> Yeah, they need to stay out until we
[10:56] disappear. That's those.
>> Okay. Okay.
[10:59] » I'm on it.
[11:01] » Okay, let's vote to approve this
service.
[11:05] With Smith.
>> Council person Dean?
[11:08] » Yes.
>> Noel? Yes.
[11:10] » Forehand?
>> Yes.
[11:11] » Sexton?
>> Yes.
[11:15] » All right, resolution 2688 approving the
Cedar County Hazard Mitigation Plan with
[11:20] the city.
Motion to approve.
[11:22] » Thank you.
>> Thanks, guys.
[11:24] » Thank you.
[11:28] » Need a second on that.
>> Second.
[11:31] » So I go to this um EMA 911 meetings
every quarter, I think it is in Tipton,
[11:37] and
every 5 years the
[11:40] they have to rewrite we have to rewrite
our hazard mitigation plan.
[11:45] And this is
I didn't even read through it this time.
[11:52] » It helps to feed them.
>> Yeah.
[11:54] » So, good to hear. Yeah.
>> That's great.
[11:56] » Pretty much the same.
>> Yeah. I agree.
[11:58] » Yeah.
>> We have to adopt this, otherwise
[12:02] FEMA may not
>> I'll approve.
[12:06] » Dean.
>> Do I hear a motion?
[12:09] » Yes.
>> Let's vote.
[12:11] » Councilperson Noel? Yes. Dean?
>> Yes.
[12:14] » Sexton?
>> Yes.
[12:15] » Worthington?
>> Yes.
[12:18] » All right, ordinance, first reading, uh
water rates, chapter 92.
[12:24] This will add the
uh
[12:26] 2% annual increase
from now on.
[12:33] » And that really just matches it up with
the sewer. So, now we don't have to
[12:36] change it every time.
This one didn't. This one just had the
[12:40] effective rates for the for the
different years on it, but it didn't say
[12:43] anything for after 2027.
The sewer does say we have that 2% for
[12:48] every year, for every July 1st after, so
this will match it up.
[12:52] » I need a motion first.
>> So moved.
[12:55] » Second.
>> And then let's vote.
[13:00] Go ahead, Alicia.
>> Um
[13:03] Councilperson Dean?
>> Yes.
[13:05] » Sexton?
>> Yes.
[13:06] » Worthington?
>> Yes.
[13:08] » Noel? Yes.
[13:11] » All right, resolution 2689 approving a
general agreement between the United
[13:15] States
Department of the Interior and city
[13:19] uh regarding snow removal, road
striping, uh brine production, and
[13:24] some other minor things.
So, this is what we do every year.
[13:31] Some of
I got
[13:35] I have a question for you. Is Is this
more than This is an increase?
[13:40] » Yes, so we saw you there.
>> Yeah, so we have to So we would get more
[13:44] money.
>> Yeah, it was 8,500.
[13:47] » That's the last time.
>> Yeah.
[13:49] » Okay.
>> And they did what we were just talking
[13:51] about today. The last one they did
because they were looking at budget
[13:55] constraints and it was right after the
shutdown and everything. They only did a
[13:59] 6-month term. That's why we're doing
this so quick again.
[14:02] » This is for one more year.
>> So the last one would have went through
[14:04] July 28th. Now this one will start
August 3rd.
[14:08] » Yeah, so how long is it?
>> A year.
[14:10] » Yeah.
>> It's one year.
[14:12] » And they And what was it? 4,200, I
think, the other one. So it would have
[14:15] been half of what we got last time. So
>> Good.
[14:20] Anybody else is
>> Yeah, cost of salt should Turkey
[14:25] trucking in here
is fine. So we're we'll get our
[14:29] We'll get our dollar. This might be a
bad year.
[14:32] » You don't know that.
>> I don't know what they're talking about.
[14:35] Could be bad.
>> A wise uh vote, please.
[14:39] » Uh Councilperson Sexton.
>> Yes.
[14:41] » Ingram.
>> Yes.
[14:43] » No.
>> Yes.
[14:44] » Or again.
>> Yes.
[14:48] » All right, so on the corner of 5th
Street and College, a uh sidewalk
[14:56] and I broken up because of a tree that
the city took down.
[15:01] » Yes.
>> This happened several years ago before
[15:06] right before I started.
Um
[15:10] then the East Side phase one and two
happened
[15:15] and there was
some disagreements
[15:20] that we didn't do our drainage
correctly. We had Eric and his guys
[15:26] come shoot elevations and they matched
the specs
[15:33] that we put out. Um but the individual
still won't let us on his property to
[15:40] fix it.
But I thought the best way to take care
[15:43] of this would be to just give him a
quote and a check.
[15:47] Um I don't know how you guys feel about
it, but
[15:51] we did kind of do a wrong four or five
years ago and feel like we need to
[15:56] correct that and that's there's a quote
right there with it. Um so he doesn't
[16:01] All he has to do is call Hatfield and
they'll get them.
[16:06] » So we would give him $2,400
>> You got to make sure he does the work
[16:11] though.
>> Yes, correct. We would give him half and
[16:15] a half probably.
>> So it'd be held in escrow?
[16:18] » No, you just have an agreement says he
doesn't do it and there has to be a way
[16:20] to do it. So I think we could do it or
we could say the check's waiting for you
[16:24] when the work is done.
>> Good.
[16:27] » So that's good with me.
>> Yeah. You pretty much Or do we pay
[16:30] Hatfield directly?
>> Once the work's done.
[16:35] » We need a vote.
>> Wouldn't that be the simplest way?
[16:38] » Maybe. We got to close though.
>> Always call Brian and see which side
[16:44] » Danny would be the one because he
doesn't want people on his property. Let
[16:46] him get the people off the property
first.
[16:49] » Yeah, he won't let us on the property.
>> So I would say let him
[16:53] do it. But I totally agree with holding
off at least some of the payment till
[16:56] it's completed because
>> So we don't do the attic again.
[16:59] » Yeah. No attic or attic.
>> We don't want to pay him and then
[17:02] nothing gets done. So he's got to get
the work done first.
[17:06] » Even if he lines it up they can invoice
us.
[17:09] They can pay for it if you're if you're
not wanting to give it directly to them.
[17:13] » Well, we need Hatfield to get paid, too.
We don't want them to
[17:16] » That's what I mean. If he lines it up,
you know, it's then you got you won't
[17:20] get a 1099 from us if we
keep paying directly you get the 1099
[17:24] from so let's figure out
[17:28] I'm also just kind of curious how many
feet was this we know right off the
[17:32] it does I don't know how many feet but
it does say in the quote how many panels
[17:37] in that piece of paper next to your
three squares would be about 12 feet
[17:43] soon
I mean five square feet
[17:49] and stands 20 feet and so stands yes
pretty good progress
[17:54] I don't know
concrete is expensive
[17:58] oh so that's normal
you need that big one
[18:03] I thought it was five
nothing
[18:07] nothing
[18:10] okay so where we at let's
this needs to go away let's do this
[18:16] okay
we're going to agree on that we got a
[18:20] consensus we're going to agree on that
[18:24] all right Adam anything
no that is it I just wanted to cover
[18:29] that issue it's been
been trying to get it over with
[18:34] nothing for me
[18:39] I'm Eric
[18:42] I'm
pretty good bolts and miss the shortest
[18:44] we know
we can get five way for eight one
[18:48] you can tell me you can tell Cole and we
can do extra gravel let's do that
[18:53] you got a drill
uh staff anybody
[18:58] Jessica um
I thought I was going to get in the
[19:02] discussion but for the email that went
out
[19:07] um in regards to landlords and us
calling them right um
[19:13] just so you guys kind of know where that
is. We currently have almost 300
[19:20] rentals.
Um
[19:22] so for me to stop and call every
landlord every time somebody moves in or
[19:28] moves out is not feasible.
Um August 1st alone, we had 21 move-ins.
[19:35] I did call eight other cities that
ranged from, you know, the same size to
[19:42] larger
and there was only one city out of those
[19:46] eight that called their landlords
because they had to.
[19:51] Um water is sanctioned different than
electric.
[19:56] Tipton has electric with theirs, so they
have to call in order to switch things
[20:02] over. That's the only reason they do it
and they are also the only one that has
[20:06] two people doing utility billing.
Um just so you kind of know where where
[20:11] we are on that. Plus, Iowa code uh
348.844E
[20:18] um
we're not required to let landlords know
[20:24] when they're late. They can submit a
letter.
[20:28] Uh like Roger, if you wanted to know
every time your landlord was late, he
[20:31] just write you one time letter and every
time they're late, you would get the
[20:35] notice.
>> So a landlord has to sign up for that.
[20:39] » A landlord has to sign up.
>> That's how Iowa City does also.
[20:42] » Yep.
Yep. And just like the lien
[20:46] exemption
there is a form on our website that they
[20:51] can fill out so that if their
um tenant doesn't pay
[20:56] the landlord is not held liable. We do
go after them through the setoff
[21:02] program.
>> So the issue
[21:04] of resident
owes
[21:08] something entails
>> Yeah.
[21:09] » the tenant
>> The tenant called in and moved out. Told
[21:14] me they were moving out at one date.
They stayed there a month later. So, it
[21:18] was already switched over at that time.
>> to the landlord
[21:21] » Yes.
>> Yeah.
[21:23] » Yeah. So, he is requiring phone calls.
He did bring up Alliant in his email,
[21:29] which obviously, like I said, Alliant
Electric has different sanctions than
[21:34] water. Therefore, they have to.
So, I just want to want to choose the
[21:39] other side of things as
>> Yeah.
[21:41] » So, I have a quick question.
>> Yeah.
[21:45] » Wouldn't it be a deal where when a
tenant signs up for water,
[21:51] they have to give
the landlord's
[21:54] email
and
[21:57] when
they have their water shut, um, when
[22:01] they
stop service,
[22:04] that you can just
send it email
[22:09] so-and-so
>> to every landlord each time somebody
[22:13] moves out?
>> I mean, it's like it's already attached
[22:16] to it. If you just send it, it'd be
No, I don't need I mean, just an email.
[22:22] quick email
>> Yeah, but she doesn't want to write an
[22:23] email every time. It needs to be like a
It would have to be a
[22:27] pretty terminal wording and verbage and
all that
[22:30] that she would send to
the landlord. But, we're going to have 6
[22:34] or 800 landlords or tenants here pretty
soon.
[22:37] » Yeah.
We are.
[22:41] » And all of them are going to be under
one landlord.
[22:43] That's true. And then
>> He knows the same.
[22:46] » I know how to He's used to working or
working with in that system.
[22:52] » So, what do they
>> What I'm saying instead of a phone call,
[22:54] an attachment to an email,
>> call
[22:57] » just
>> But
[22:59] » so-and-so address
>> So, why why are we responsible for that
[23:04] then and not the landlords? Because if
the landlord wants that
[23:07] » customer service.
>> Yeah.
[23:08] » I understand that, but but you see all
the other things that I do.
[23:13] » Yeah.
>> And then you see the amount of
[23:16] turnaround.
I would be doing nothing but answering
[23:20] phones and sending out emails to
landlords all the time.
[23:24] » Especially when they're as big as this
one. They have like property management
[23:28] companies that help to like they can
employ their
[23:33] like super staff in there.
>> The other part is that if we do that,
[23:38] have to give notice, for some reason we
miss it.
[23:42] You you know, now we're responsible
since we had an obligation to
[23:46] » Well, it all comes expected.
>> Expected, so
[23:51] um
[23:54] I guess I see it as it's it stops
somebody from coming in doing exactly
[23:58] what they did there.
>> And this
[24:00] » And
>> In the 3 years that we're here, that was
[24:02] the one time it happened.
[24:09] » Have the other cities said how they
handle it?
[24:12] » They switch it over instantly.
Um I did ask
[24:17] um
along the lines of do you contact your
[24:20] landlord? No, some of some people
actually give them 5 days after they
[24:24] move out until
they give them 5 days and if nobody
[24:28] calls in then it goes back to the
landlord's name.
[24:31] Um they never call except for Tipton. Um
and then it just keeps
[24:37] going on.
>> Give me a list of those cities.
[24:39] » Yeah, I called Tipton, Tiffany, Wilton,
uh DeWitt, Walcott, Mount Vernon, Solon.
[24:47] I did call Blue Grass, but they don't do
water and Wheatland. So, just trying to
[24:51] get different
different um
[24:55] not just ones that fit ours.
And none of them called our landlords to
[25:00] let them know, "Hey, your tenant moved
out. Is this right? What is the date?"
[25:05] » Is there something we can have the
tenant sign that says that that they
[25:09] must when they move out they also must
notify their tenant their landlord of
[25:15] them moving out.
And that'd be hard to enforce.
[25:20] » I don't get them to come into the office
all the time. I have to take their
[25:24] payments over the phone like their
um deposit over the phone. They don't
[25:28] typically come in to fill out a
[25:33] » Okay, so status quo is it reverts to the
tenant's name when the
[25:38] the landlord's name
>> when the tenant moves out unless there's
[25:41] somebody moving in right afterwards.
Yeah.
[25:46] » So in other words
a landlord knowing that the tenant is
[25:50] moving out could actually call you
say, "I got a tenant moving out.
[25:55] Well, we're moving out this date.
And I got a new tenant coming in
[26:01] the first."
>> Yeah.
[26:03] » Okay, so
there again, that's time on your phone.
[26:08] » But that puts the ownership on the
landlord.
[26:11] » It's also what the damage deposit is
for. If
[26:14] as a as a landlord
you make sure that water meter is water
[26:18] bill paid.
You can wait 30 days. You got 45 days. I
[26:22] know. I think.
You have 30 days. You charge the You
[26:26] don't give
the full
[26:29] Yeah.
It's on damage deposit for that.
[26:32] Especially with the amount of doors, you
know. Especially with the amount of
[26:35] doors,
you know, like you said we're adding the
[26:39] hundreds and hundreds of more doors. I
mean
[26:43] you know, and the each apartment is
going to be handled individually with
[26:46] those the same culprit.
>> Right.
[26:49] » So I I I would say status quo is people
would have me before. So I'm
[26:58] » Just to kind of ask kind of over
what the office is thinking with the
[27:04] » All right. Thank you.
>> Um I also have something.
[27:07] » Go ahead.
>> So, we were
[27:10] discussing the like West Branch Village
and and with our standard increases that
[27:17] we have every year, the water and sewer.
Um
[27:21] the agreement that we have with them
currently for the sewer for the new site
[27:25] of
the trailer
[27:28] » Yeah.
>> area.
[27:30] We have we charge them $50 a month
per unit.
[27:36] That has not increased the entire time.
It has been done this for 3 years. So,
[27:41] the discussion was should that also be a
2% increase every July like we do at
[27:46] Castle Board and like with everything
else.
[27:49] That's not
>> We started doing that
[27:51] never No, there was vacant lots there.
We were charging people
[27:54] » Yeah, but we never charged them until
they had the trailer on that lot. So,
[27:58] they they didn't get charged for every
lot. They just got charged for the
[28:01] trailer.
>> Okay. The trailer was good.
[28:05] But
yeah, it's
[28:08] We don't have any way of knowing how
much
[28:11] they're using.
[28:16] » I might be just the question if $50 is
enough.
[28:19] » We had actually talked about it and no.
I mean, of course they're under the
[28:23] impression that we're overcharging and
when we looked at it,
[28:27] I think they'll be
very surprised when we when the meter is
[28:31] actually installed, which still is not
installed. We've been talk working on
[28:36] for how long?
>> So,
[28:37] » I think they'll see how much they're
truly
[28:39] » That's equivalent almost to a $50 water
bill cuz they're about equal.
[28:43] Sewer water.
>> Sewer is $18.92.
[28:47] » What's 18? There's 7000 loads.
>> Water is 10.
[28:51] » 11.
>> 10 3 or yeah, I just went up. I'm sorry.
[28:55] I don't have the rates.
>> It's way under what
[28:59] » Yeah.
>> It's way under what it should be.
[29:00] » It is.
>> So then we have no way of knowing how
[29:03] much water they've used.
>> No, we don't.
[29:07] » Are they charging that to the the
tenant? The tenant the water?
[29:10] » That's on them.
>> Or they are.
[29:11] » There's I mean
>> They're probably charging them more.
[29:15] They're making money. They're making
money off you. All right, so let's we
[29:18] got to change that.
>> Okay, so I'll bring something next time.
[29:21] » 100 or something.
Yeah.
[29:24] Let's wait.
>> We got We got to discuss that. Maybe
[29:26] it's a deal where we make it so it
hurts.
[29:29] » Yeah. So they get the
>> Till they get get that meter fixed.
[29:32] » Yeah, I agree.
[29:36] » More than that,
okay.
[29:38] » Okay.
>> You and Adam?
[29:39] » Okay.
>> Yeah.
[29:40] » I'll bring it I'll bring it back next
time. Um one of the thing and this one
[29:43] just more more for information. You were
talking about like the emergency
[29:46] management plan and stuff. I did uh last
week do a training
[29:51] with
the other area clerks and uh the Cedar
[29:57] County EMA
and and now set up to where when we have
[30:01] like a water main break, we'll order so
emergency
[30:05] um I can go into the rave system and be
able to shoot out like a text message to
[30:10] our residents so that they know.
>> That's cool.
[30:14] » And it
can we can even narrow it down
[30:17] » Everybody with a cell phone?
>> Yep.
[30:19] If they're on a cell phone, but I mean
if it goes through a cell tower and it
[30:23] would go to each go to cell phones. So
and we can even narrow it down so like
[30:28] let's say it's the west side of town but
not the east side, we could try to get
[30:32] it into that area.
So
[30:36] just so you know, FYI.
>> That's pretty cool.
[30:38] » It is pretty cool. Yeah, and then the
system is pretty user-friendly.
[30:42] » Mhm.
>> Good thought. Yeah.
[30:44] Yeah.
[30:46] » All right. Thank you. Any other staff?
[30:51] Mayor and council, I got two things. I
learned just an hour ago that the
[30:55] library
has achieved a
[31:00] level three
>> Yes.
[31:03] » accolade status from the state library
board.
[31:08] Not turning it library, but
it's a very high uh
[31:13] kudos to the library. And they have a
record number of people going in and
[31:18] doing kids, adults.
It's a good library.
[31:23] So, hats off to Jessica and
the staff of the library.
[31:26] » Yeah.
Yeah, we just um received our
[31:30] accreditation from the State Library of
Iowa. And we're accredited at tier
[31:35] three, which is the highest level in the
state that they award.
[31:39] Um
and it's in a three-year cycle. So,
[31:42] we've uh managed to maintain it for the
last three years.
[31:47] » All right. Congratulations. Good job.
>> Thank you.
[31:52] » Um last thing I have, Hoover Hometown
Days went off
[31:56] extremely well, perfect weather.
[32:00] More people than I've ever seen in town.
>> Sorry.
[32:03] » So, um
it went off really well. The The library
[32:07] opening is a big success.
Um that drew a lot of people. I got a
[32:13] letter from a a team from Tennessee
played Hoover Ball. They'd never even
[32:16] been there before.
They just showed up.
[32:20] Couple old guys and 12-year-old
They got beat up pretty good, but they
[32:25] were thrilled to death.
[32:29] He wrote me a nice letter. He's actually
a judge in Tennessee.
[32:33] Um
um
[32:35] congratulating me on our little small
West Branch, so it felt good. So.
[32:42] Um, that's all I got.
Anybody anything else?
[32:46] » I got a couple things.
Uh, during Hoover Days, there's an
[32:49] incident where the e-bike ran into a
pedestrian, and
[32:54] the rider of the e-bike was under 16.
Um,
[33:01] I've had
come up with a couple ideas
[33:05] that
may help out this. Number one, I see a
[33:08] lot of these kids riding around without
a helmet on.
[33:12] Can we
make
[33:15] 15 and under wear a helmet on the
e-bike?
[33:18] » Well, this goes back a long history. If
you remember Carolyn Found's injury or
[33:25] tragedy or bill, after that, they tried
to push to have under 18 have helmets,
[33:29] and the legislature pushed back and said
freedom. So, they didn't want to So, the
[33:34] question is if we do something. There's
There's nothing in the state law, so in
[33:38] theory, home rule you should be able to
do it. The question what the
[33:42] legislature's been doing lately is if
you try to do something they don't like,
[33:45] they just
outlaw it the next session. But, that is
[33:48] an idea. If I remember correctly,
the planning organization in Johnson
[33:53] County is looking at rules that apply to
everybody, and there I think the Des
[33:58] Moines planning agency has
passed some rules. I got I can take a
[34:01] look at those and see what they've got
in place for those
[34:05] scooters, bikes, you know, you name it.
The The problem is the state law
[34:09] definitions are not keeping up with the
technology, so you know, some of these
[34:13] things can go too fast, so they're not a
moped or whatever, but some of them
[34:17] don't have seats, so they're not a
motorcycle or or even a motor vehicle
[34:20] cuz they don't have a seat, but they're
is the the definitions
[34:25] the definitions that
probably a motor vehicle cuz it's taking
[34:29] a human somewhere, but there's
definitions and the regulations but
[34:32] state law are not keeping up right now.
>> Well, they they actually had a bill last
[34:37] session but I don't think it went
through.
[34:39] » So, I can I can pull those up and see
what their other people are doing but we
[34:43] can try it and see what you know
>> Can we make at least can we make an
[34:46] ordinance and only one rider per bike?
>> Yeah, they
[34:52] I'd have to look at that cuz there's
state law that says you know, bikes can
[34:55] big bikes can do pretty much anything
that a cop you know, you can't tell a
[34:58] bike to go off the street.
>> But these aren't licensed, right?
[35:01] » I understand that but like I said, the
the state law does not does not keeping
[35:06] up with what's going on.
So, I So, I can I'll look into I'll look
[35:10] into that. What was Did you have another
idea? Just the number of riders? They
[35:14] don't have
more than one on
[35:16] » More than one on on bike.
>> I you have to look into that
[35:20] too. That one might be a little more
problematic.
[35:22] » I think you're going to have problems
with that, you know, anything that
[35:25] conflicts with Iowa law
and that's I think that's a problem with
[35:28] local police departments. We're kind of
wait for the Iowa legislature to catch
[35:32] up right now. You know, that's the
trouble with helmets and stuff. I you
[35:36] know,
it'd be definitely be an experiment. It
[35:39] would.
But
[35:41] I might we're we're trying.
In fact, I think there was a bicycle
[35:44] accident here
um
[35:47] this to someone who got run by
uh Herbalife somewhere I heard but uh
[35:52] fortunately very minor injuries but
>> But there were two people killed in
[35:56] Cedar Rapids last week.
>> I think we need to get serious and I I
[36:01] would really think I mean, for instance,
I've heard from a business person
[36:05] there's e-bike going down the sidewalk
uh in the business district. Now, that
[36:10] is illegal.
>> That is illegal and it would be a
[36:12] current ordinance I would assume.
>> And I know we had a bike rodeo or the
[36:16] last club I think had a bike rodeo in
the summer and that was that was a good
[36:19] start, I believe but I you know, I would
like to task police department in doing
[36:24] some more education
uh in the community in whether it's
[36:27] newspaper articles or uh giving programs
to schools or something like that.
[36:33] Uh it's almost a daily occurrence out
there when you see a bicycle break in
[36:38] the law and oh it's just
It is getting frightening and it's just
[36:42] a matter of time before somebody gets
hurt.
[36:45] Um so I just I just And also it's called
classified e-bike cuz it bike that goes
[36:51] under 20 mile hour.
And my my bike goes
[36:56] I stop stop sign by the way but
[37:00] Yes. All right. Yeah, I do mostly night
actually.
[37:04] Uh but I think we need to do some
education as well that I'm afraid and
[37:08] and I know the police department doesn't
want to give an 8-year-old ticket but I
[37:12] think if I was on the police department
I think and give a break law I think I
[37:16] call the parent and have the parent come
pick the kid.
[37:19] » Haven't some cities gone to
to the parents responsible
[37:24] » That's a That's a
That's a
[37:27] Yeah, I think some of the quad cities
have that
[37:30] parental responsibility ordinance
Davenport maybe?
[37:34] » I think so.
>> Yeah.
[37:35] » Isn't there a community over by Des
Moines maybe Waukee that recently did an
[37:39] ordinance for e-bikes?
>> I think Waukee I think they Yeah, I
[37:43] think probably Waukee.
>> Was it Waukee? I thought it was
[37:46] South.
>> Cuz well cuz the
[37:48] the planning organization in Des Moines
has has gotten uh
[37:53] I can pull those cuz I think I saw one
of those ordinances just uh I'll send it
[37:56] around I'll send it around to everybody
so you can take a look at it and see
[37:59] what you'll see what you think cuz
obviously
[38:02] I don't think there's a state law that
says you can't
[38:05] helmets are not allowed You can't force
somebody to wear a helmet but that
[38:09] doesn't mean they won't come back later
and do that. I don't know.
[38:12] » You know we don't force them to wear a
helmet on a motorcycle.
[38:17] » I mean well what I'm saying
>> I don't know if these young kids there
[38:19] are wrecking You're talking about the 18
and then
[38:21] » going to be a constitutional issue. It's
going to come back. The Supreme Court's
[38:25] going to say that parents have the
ability to raise their children the way
[38:28] that they want and if they're not going
to require them to wear a helmet, that's
[38:31] the way that it's going to
>> or get vaccinated or essential
[38:35] » it's all like freedom of speech, first
amendment stuff.
[38:37] » I think there was some the stuff in Des
Moines may have more with where you can
[38:40] ride them on the bike path and go. Like
that's why they've got trails and stuff
[38:44] like that where you have pedestrians and
these bikes or whatever, I think. I'll
[38:49] I'll I'll pull the ordinance and then
send them around send them around so you
[38:52] can
>> waiting for an ordinance that that might
[38:54] have some teeth to it that seems to be
makes sense before maybe we might adopt
[38:58] something like that.
>> I was just Yeah, I was just going to
[39:01] show it around just to show what you
have, what I've seen and like I said, I
[39:05] I know my MPO J C's working on something
that they want to have all the cities in
[39:10] Johnson County pass which would kind of
make sense to have the same rules for
[39:14] everybody.
>> It's crazy but you know, all these
[39:17] e-bikes like we talked about
4 mph over 25. You see them now. So then
[39:21] you put somebody half
my weight on that thing, that thing will
[39:25] go 30 mph.
I know it's crazy but speed limit on
[39:28] sidewalks, I mean it just
but I think we need to slow these kids
[39:33] somewhere or another down and I wish the
legislature would uh
[39:38] be more aggressive on this because I
think unfortunately it's going to
[39:42] somebody's going to have to get killed
before anyone does anything.
[39:44] » Put an age limit on it would be the best
thing.
[39:47] » Yeah, they um they mean you these
scooters, I mean you go down the road
[39:51] and you'll get passed like you're
standing still in a car. The guy who in
[39:54] Coralville has a YouTube channel where
he's going like 80 or 90 in those
[39:58] scooters burning down the street.
Hopefully he never hits a pothole or
[40:02] something else but
>> If a police officer gets them going over
[40:04] 20 mph, I would think it no longer
ceases to be an e-bike in my now becomes
[40:09] a
a motorcycle or a
[40:11] moped type of thing.
>> different tiers. I was reading up on it
[40:14] a a bit and we talked about it in one of
our Tuesday meetings, too. There's
[40:18] There's like a tier 1, 2, 3, and 4. And
tier 1 and 2 are supposed to be under
[40:23] the 20 mph. Those are more of like your
like 10 to 18 or 10 to 16. And And
[40:29] there's not an age limit on that one,
really. Once you get to the tier 3 and
[40:34] tier 4, it's supposed to be only a
licensed driver. And then I think even
[40:39] tier 4, that's where you can get into
your 20 to 20 mph. It's supposed Is it
[40:44] supposed to even be over 18?
>> I It's I know it's at least licensed
[40:48] driver. So
>> I don't know. The problem is a lot of
[40:50] those manufacturers aren't really clear
on the speed on those. And so police
[40:54] officers may not know what tier
Yeah. I'm all in.
[40:58] It's not just e-bikes. I saw a young
girl on a little
[41:02] Well, I don't even know what you call
it. A little skateboard.
[41:05] » Yeah. Scooters. Yeah.
>> Where they Where they went across this
[41:10] crosswalk just like just that fast. And
I just
[41:13] » And those things really have to have
definitions.
[41:15] » Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
>> And there's no seat in that you know,
[41:17] that was the whole The seat thing is
kind of destroys all the definitions.
[41:22] » Little tiny wheels.
>> Yeah. Little tiny wheels that go really
[41:24] fast. And a hole in the sidewalk.
>> So
[41:27] » Or hit a rock.
>> I'll I'll be sending around what I see
[41:30] in the Twin Metro area and then I'll be
testing
[41:32] take a look and then we'll revisit.
>> Okay. Anybody anything else?
[41:38] » I have one more thing. What's going on
with the pickleball course?
[41:43] » We're waiting to be painted.
>> We've been waiting for a long time.
[41:47] We're looking to finish up.
Don't know.
[41:50] I'll follow up.
You can follow up.
[41:54] » It's a good question.
>> There's a weed patch around the boards
[41:57] and there's no nets or anything like
that. Um
[42:00] » Right. I'll follow up. I'll give you
some information.
[42:02] » It's time to ice out pretty soon.
See.
[42:05] » I know Aaron, um
they wanted to build a bench or put a
[42:08] bench in and she didn't like the quality
of it because it's going to be our
[42:12] bench.
She said, "No, we can't do that bench."
[42:17] I don't know I don't know what they're
after with that so.
[42:21] She kind of mixed what they proposed.
[42:25] All right, motion to adjourn anyone?
>> So moved.
[42:28] » Second.
>> All in favor say "Aye".
[42:30] » Aye.