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Everybody, we are gonna get started with, what

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I know everyone is here for, and that

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is our public hearing to, amend our vehicle

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and traffic code to make some additional parking

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restrictions. Mister Alms? Thank you. This order was

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duly advertised in the daily local news on

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02/10/2020 and filed in the Chester County Law

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Library. It is amending the code of the

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borough of West Chester, specifically chapter one zero

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four, section one zero four dash 32 titled

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vehicles and traffic to add parking restrictions on

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certain days and times on Market Street and

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Poplar Street for street sweeping and street maintenance.

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Chapter 104, section 104 dash 45 titled special

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purpose parking zones established, parking otherwise prohibited to

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remove two separate parking spaces for handicapped persons

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and chapter 104, section 104 dash 34.1 titled

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electric vehicle charging station. And the first one

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in section 104 dash 32 is to add

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restrictions to Market Street on the South Side,

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Thursdays 8AM to 11AM from Bradford Avenue to

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Wayne Street. The second one is section 104

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dash 32 to add restrictions to Market Street

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on the North Side, Mondays, 8AM to 11AM

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from Potter Alley to Everhart Street. The last

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of those section 104 dash 30 twos is

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to add restrictions to Poplar Street on the

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West Side on Thursdays 8AM to 11AM from

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Market Street to Bernard Street. And then in

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section 104 dash 45, to remove one handicap

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designated parking space at 118 West Bernard Street

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and remove one handicap designated parking space at

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404 North Darlington Street. And in section 104

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dash 34.1, the parking of motor vehicles in

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any parking spot that is designated by the

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borough as an electric vehicle charging spot shall

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be limited to motor vehicles that are connected

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to the charging equipment. Once the motor vehicle

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is charged, the motor vehicle shall not remain

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parked in such designated spot. Thank you. Thank

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you. Any comments or questions from counsel? Any

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comments from the public? Can I have a

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motion? I make a motion to accept the

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amendment to chapter 104 vehicles and traffic as

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read. Second. Motion by Mr. Flynn, second by

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Mr. Bracelin. Can you call the question please?

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Yes. Yes. Yes. Mr. Aye. Yes, the motion

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passes seven zero. And that concludes our public

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hearing. And now we can move on to

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the fun stuff. I will now call our

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February to order, and ask that Mr. Stefano

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lead us in the pledge of allegiance. I

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pledge allegiance to the flag of The United

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States Of America and to the republic for

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which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

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Do we have any comments, suggestions, or petitions

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by residents in attendance regarding items not on

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the agenda? Thank you. There was an ordinance

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last meeting where it was about allocating $2,000

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for a celebratory 2024, like, two hundred twenty

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fifth anniversary, but it's not on the agenda

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today. Was is there any reason for that?

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allocate the $2,000. That was a request for

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the future. What we approved yesterday was to

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establish a committee to prepare for the borough's

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February. The committee, when it's actually formed, asked

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for $2,000 Presumably, that would have to be

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back in front of counsel. Any other comments

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or questions? Alrighty. Seeing none, we'll move on

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to comments by Borough Council and the mayor,

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and we will start with Mr. Elliman. Good

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evening. Thanks for coming out. It's so wonderful

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to see Borough Hall so full tonight, and

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it's really a great occasion why we're here.

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And I wanted to take a quick moment

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just to thank Chief Bond for thirty four

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years of amazing service. I wish our times

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could have overlapped, But I'll cherish this night

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that we have. So, thanks again. Really, really

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appreciate I just wanted to say that I've

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learned a lot in my first month on

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council, and have already heard a ton of

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fantastic ideas, and I'm really excited to work

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with all of you moving forward to try

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to make those happen. Thank you. Mr. Spano.

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joined a meeting. It was a off campus

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community services, the RAN ambassadors paraprofessionals with the

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university. They had a training in January before

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the students came back in session. And I

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was really thankful that one of the grad

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students, Molly Scolo, reached out to me. She

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had come to a meeting I think last

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month or two months ago. And with the

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intent of just opening conversation with me in

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the Southeast section of the borough about the

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concerns with student behavior and just opening a

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conversation. Was very grateful that she did that.

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And I attended the meeting and met with

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everybody and it was a very good start

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to increasing the communication between the residents, me,

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and the university, and more importantly with the

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students themselves. All the people there, there were

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some staff members there, most of them were

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students. They led the conversation. And one of

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the most refreshing things that was said was

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I made a comment when I first started

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talking that I know you're not the problem,

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you're all the good kids here. And they

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stopped me and they said, we don't like

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that you said that. We represent every student

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and we wish to hit this problem head

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on. It was very refreshing for me and

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I hope to increase the communication with them

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going forward. I've been emailing with Molly and

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with Sandy Jones and the off campus community

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services And it's just been a good start.

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And I think it will be starting. I'm

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going to invite them to a public safety

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committee meeting soon, just so everybody can see

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the face to those names and continue that

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conversation. Other than that, I just want to

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congratulations to the chief. I've worked with you

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the last couple of years and I think

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you're the person I've talked to on the

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phone and through email more in the borough

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than anybody else. We've had many phone conversations

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and you're very transparent, you're very honest and

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truthful and you don't ever shy away from

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dealing with anything. And I think the reputation

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of our police force has a lot to

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do with you And it's a great reputation

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and I really thank you for your service

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and you'll be missed. Thanks. Mike. Mr. Flynn.

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Thank you very much. For all those who

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don't know, it's Chief Bond's fault that I

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moved into the borough twenty one years ago.

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Twenty years ago. I called him and said,

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but is Westchester safe? And he still remembered

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that because I said I was not going

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to move into the borough if it was

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not safe. And he says, I live here,

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it's safe. So what I did, sold my

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house to Chester Heights and moved to the

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borough and look where I sit today. My

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mother will be proud. Good luck in your

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new venture. The second thing is a major

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announcement the past pastor of Saint Agnes Church

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Nelson Perez, the first Latino archbishop of Philadelphia.

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We're very proud that that he's gonna be

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leading over 1,000,000 Catholics in the city of

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Philip in the five county area. Came from

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our humble parish right here at Saint Agnes.

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And, we're very, very proud of that. So

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we have a lot to be, thankful for

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in Westchester for another first. Thank you. I

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only want to say also thank you to

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chief, for his service and for the leadership

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that has made our police force a model

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for many others throughout, not only at the

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county, but throughout the state. And I'm sure

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we're all looking forward to new leadership as

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well and the new directions that it might

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take us. Thank you. Mr. Breezell. I too

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want to thank the Chief. Scott's been a

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phenomenal resource. I've learned a great deal from

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him. He was always accessible, always had better

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ideas than I did, of course that's why

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he was chief. And it was just, in

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my six plus years, it's just been a

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thorough pleasure to have known you and to

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have worked with you. And as I said

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last time, I'll miss having you around, I

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really will. So congratulations, I'm glad you're going

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on to where you're going, and thank you.

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So, is it a twenty year tenure? Well,

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I want to tell you I really want

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to express my gratitude. Excuse me. The twenty

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years, you've never arrested me. I think that's

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important we're dead on the record. And for

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some of my friends, you know, and it's

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fun to sit next to you to banquets.

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Although, it's hard to steal the silverware. Sit

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Excuse me. Geriatric management and science tells us

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that between 65 and 75 were categorized as

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young old. And between 75 and 85, you're

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a middle old. And then at 85 And

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beyond, you're old old. Beyond that, you're dead.

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So, mister Flynn and my colleague, mister Grace

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Flynn, we're all we're young. Anybody thought we

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were older than young, I'm gonna disinclusion with

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that idea. We're called the great squad. And

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now by the time this council meets again

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in full, I'm gonna be a little old.

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I'm very sad, but that's what I got.

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Sounds like an early happy birthday is in

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order. I'm actually not going to say anything,

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because this is the Chief's night, and my

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comments will be coming in a few minutes

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when we get to the agenda item number

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six. So thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I'll

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echo everyone else's sentiments and thank you for

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your service. When I joined council in 2015,

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we sat down together and I think our

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meeting lasted about an hour and a half

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longer than I had planned, which probably won't

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surprise anyone in this room. And I told

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you a story then that I'll relay as

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briefly as possible because we have so many

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of our fine officers here. And that was

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an incident I had witnessed a few years

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prior on South New Street of a party

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that was being broken up. And in this

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party that was being broken up, there were

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probably about 80 young kids out in the

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street congregating, and there was clearly some animosity

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that they felt towards the police. And one

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of the kids went up to one of

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the officers and was pointing at him and

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and touched him. And while all of his

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friends were yelling at the kid, don't be

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the next Ferguson. Don't be the next Ferguson.

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And I'm sitting here thinking I did whatever

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respecting person would do, and I went to

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my Third Floor and was watching this from

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the window. And I'm thinking, oh my god,

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I'm about to witness something awful. And the

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officer very calmly pushed the young man away,

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shined his flashlight at him, said, let me

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see your ID. They said to his friends,

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get this guy out of here. No joke.

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Within two minutes, everybody had left. This kid's

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friends were coming back and shaking hands with

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the officers and thanking the officers for their

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incredible patience in handling this situation. And I

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told the chief then that I couldn't have

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been more proud of how our police force

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handled that situation. And I think that's a

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testament to your leadership over the last twenty

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years and your service over the last thirty

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four. So thank you very much. And with

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that, we will move on to miss Segler

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Stahl has the the privilege of being interviewed

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for a position in front of a packed

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house. This is where you want me? Okay.

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a spot on the historical commission. Yeah. There

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are two open positions and we had another

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applicant last So with those odds, I'll do

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my best to keep it brief. Okay. If

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you could just tell us a little bit

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about yourself, and why you're interested in joining

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the historical Well, I'm from Germany originally, and

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so I grew up among a lot of

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historic buildings, and the appreciation of historic buildings,

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and the history is very important in Germany.

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And then I moved to Westchester about twenty

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years ago, lived just near South Campus. And

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two and a half years ago, we moved

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into the borough, into a historic building, into

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the Butler House on Minor Street. I don't

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know where you know where that is. It's

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towards Eberhard Park. And since then, we've become

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really invested in in this building. Maintaining the

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building is a bit more expensive than we

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thought it would be. Researching the history of

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the people who lived in the building. So

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I've always had an interest in archaeology. I've

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been I've taken many classes at the university

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here in archaeology. I've been to digs, local

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digs with the archaeology department. So it just

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fits in. Then we recently joined the tree

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tenders. So we will be in charge of

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a stretch of New Street, to kind of

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keep an eye out. You know, watch the

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trees, sure they're okay, and make a note

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if something's not going right. And so this

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whole area is Westchester's a gem. So that's

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really. We have any questions? Well, we appreciate

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your willingness to serve. You'll see a couple

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items down we have on the agenda, the

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appointment. So if you wanna stick around Okay.

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Feel free. If not, it could be a

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while before we get there. We won't be

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offended if you leave. That's okay. Thank you

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very much for your Next on the docket

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here, we have the recognition of Chief Scott

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Bond for thirty four years of dedicated service

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to the Westchester Borough Police Department and surrounding

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community. And I will turn the microphone over

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to the mayor. Okay. So, thank you everyone

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for being here. You know, once again, we're

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here to honor our chief for twenty years,

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two decades of service as chief and thirty

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four years serving the department. And I know

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we have several people who want to provide

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citations, so we're going to start with that.

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And I'd like to first start with Steve

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Grabicki, who's Senator Denimon's Chief of Staff. Oh,

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sure. Always loves to do the furniture. All

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right. The microphone's on. Oh, it's brilliant. How

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you doing? So, we should I I started

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thinking about this. Senator Denimon, yeah, he sends

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his regrets for for not being able to

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be here this evening. But whenever he can't

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go somewhere, I I have the pleasure of

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of of covering for him and and it

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is a pleasure. And the first time we

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had an interaction with Chief Bond was going

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back 02/2007, and it involved an alcohol issue

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in the borough. And I think the big

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part of that conversation, the thing I remember

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most of all, is the willingness to be

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a collaborator and to work with the office

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and try and find, not only collaborate, but

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find innovative ways and also being receptive to

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different ways of trying to work through some

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issues at the time. The second incident that

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comes to mind as I'm thinking about this

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was a rally Senator Dinaman decided to have

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in the borough in 02/2011 after, governor Corbett

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threw some education budget. And about 700 plus

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people showed up at, borough right at the

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outside the courthouse. And, of course, we we

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didn't give any notice to the Westchester Police

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Department or anybody else that Senator Dinner was

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doing this, but we found out organically that

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this started to happen and responded to to

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things went off, things went smoothly and handled

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it really well. And I had a personal

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incident the office where had somebody saw some

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people on the roof, you were in the

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corner of Church And Market Street, And somebody

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saw maybe 20 people up on our roof

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and we're getting these calls, getting these voicemails

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saying, hey, somebody's having a party on your

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roof. So I there's on the Third Floor,

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there's a hatch. So I climb up there

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and what had happened was they put all

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their empties on the top of this hatch.

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So I open it up and all these

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beer bottles start tumbling down and everyone down

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below they just they're falling off the roof.

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Okay? And hitting the awning. If you go

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to the corner church and market, it has

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that awning there. Bouncing off of that, smashing

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on the street, of course Westchester PD shows

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up and says, hey, what's going on? After

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a short explanation, I was able to we

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were able to work through that and it

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was our neighbors. They could actually, from their

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deck, this is a Zukin property, they're able

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to climb onto a roof and they had

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a nice view of Westchester. And we've had

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other incidents with or that have happened in

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the office, not a few and far between,

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but always your team always responded and responded

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professionally and had them equated themselves exceptionally. So,

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a strong leader. Strong leader isn't always there

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and you can't always be there involved with

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everything. But when you how your team responds,

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that's absolutely a reflection. So I'm senator Dinerman

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from the senate of Pennsylvania. There's a citation

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that, the senator asked me to present. It's

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in part of the senate record, and thank

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you for your service. Thank you, and it's

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all senators. So, Chief, I know you've been

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in your car all day, so you won't

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mind standing there for a while. Next, I

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believe we have Ethan Schaefer, who's representing representative

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Carolyn Komita. Yes, I'm here. My name is

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Ethan Schaefer. I'm here on behalf of, Carolyn

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Komita and actually, state representative Stappi, also did

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sign this, citation as well. First of all,

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I would just like to say thank you,

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Khafif Vaughan, for all the service to this

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great community. I I, moved to Westchester, for

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college, and I've loved it ever since, and

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I haven't left. So Carolyn did actually prepare

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a a short statement that she asked me

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to read, so I'll read that. Congratulations, chief

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Bond, and thank you for serving and protecting

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the people of Westchester for thirty four years.

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You've overseen a tremendous transition in the borough,

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and, we are better today because of your

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leadership. It was an honor to serve as

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chair of the Public Safety Committee and as

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mayor working alongside you for almost twelve years.

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I've learned so much from you over those

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years, and I'm a better pro public servant

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today, because of it. I look forward to

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working with you in Harrisburg in your new

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role role as executive director of the Police

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Chiefs Association. Thank you, and I wish you

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all the best of luck in the world.

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I know we have in our audience our

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wonderful new Sheriff Freda Maddox, if you'd like

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to say a few words. I don't know

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what it is. They have a new sheriff

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in town and you're leaving. But anyway, I

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just wish you all of the best and

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the outpouring of the people, the officers, as

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well as the community in this room demonstrates

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the leadership and the love and affection that

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they have for you. I know that the

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sheriff's office in the past and even in

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the present always depends on knowing that Westchester

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Borough Police Department is there. We are collaborators

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with you and anytime there was any incident,

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we know we could pick up the phone

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and call you. So, on behalf of the

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sheriff's office and I know there's going be

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a big celebration, we will be there then

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for your actual citation but I couldn't let

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this day go without at least acknowledging all

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that you've done. That's a long time of

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service. Not only as a police officer, but

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two decades, twenty years. And it started under

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Doctor. Clifford D. Baptiste. So again, just thank

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you so much. Thank you for also being

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a supporter of me, that if I need

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some advice, I know where to find you

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and I can pick up the phone and

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you already congratulated me and already provided me

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some type of guidance. So, I certainly appreciate

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that and certainly, the Chester County Sheriff's Association

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office is appreciative of you as well. So

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Go ahead. Scott. I've known Scott for all

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thirty four years. I'm in my thirty ninth.

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So I have a little couple years on

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you, But Scott and I started in criminal

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investigation together. I was with PSP and he

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was a newly freshman detective here in Westchester.

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So I can probably tell you stories all

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night till the cows come home by alone.

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But all I will say is that Scott

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has been a truly a colleague, a mentor,

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but mostly a friend. This guy has never

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changed from day one. I picked up the

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phone from the time that we were detectives

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to the time he was chief, and we've

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had that relationship and maintained it ever since.

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So other than the fact that your hair

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is no longer black, I no longer have

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an afro. And do we have any other

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elected officials in the room? Okay. So, at

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this time, I know that our Borough Council

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President, Michael Gailey, would like to say a

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few words for our outgoing chief. I'll keep

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this very brief because you all got to

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hear my story already. But on behalf of

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the borough, we would like to present you

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with this gift in honor and recognition of

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your thirty four years of service to this

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community. Congratulations and best of luck in your

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future endeavors. Thank you very much. So, before

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we move on at this time, I'd like

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to open it up to the floor. If

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there's anyone here, a resident or a colleague

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or anyone else who would like to say

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a few words, you're more than welcome. Jordan?

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Jordan was mayor for eight months? Yay. And

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served on borough council for how long? I

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just wanted to come up since I'm here

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and I'm all dressed up. It's been a

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pleasure working with you. Some of the strengths

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I've noticed from a leadership standpoint have been

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your ability to manage many, many, many different

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priorities. And, you know, I don't know how

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you do it from a time management standpoint.

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I'm still trying to figure out, you know,

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when I put my kid down to sleep.

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But, you've managed everything from the budget to

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personnel to everything else that goes along with

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running a police department. You've done it competently.

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You've done it with passion. And I was

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able to see that side of you working

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with you through the hiring process, as that

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is the number one most important thing is

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the hiring process. I'm hopeful with everything that

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you've done and built with this police department

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that we continue to pave down that path,

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and that we remember certainly as counsel as

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well, that it's extremely important, it's foundational to

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have a police department as professional and wonderful

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as the people that put themselves here today

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as a foundation for all the growth that

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occurs in Westchester. If you don't have safety,

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if you don't have quality of life, you

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don't have anything to grow towards and move

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towards and prosper. So, as council makes decisions

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going forward, every council going forward, I hope

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everyone remembers that, when making their decisions and

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casting their votes for officers going forward. And

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I wish you the best of luck, and

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maybe we can actually get a beer in

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town now. Is there anyone else from the

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audience who'd like to say anything? Thank you,

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Scott Bond. No, not Daryl. Jim, Jim Scanlon.

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That's a hard act to follow. But you

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mentioned your two year old and what Scott

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did to try to help. I'm Jim Scanlon,

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I'm the superintendent of the Westchester Area School

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District, and I'm here to thank Scott Bond

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and the entire, police department for all that

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they do to keep our kids safe. We

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back before, school safety drills were, something that

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they're now required to do, we were doing

511
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,535
that, with the police department. In fact, after

512
00:28:25,535 --> 00:28:28,015
the Sandy Hook shooting, I remember having a

513
00:28:28,015 --> 00:28:30,815
conversation with Scott and the other chiefs, about

514
00:28:30,815 --> 00:28:34,015
safety drills and going through our schools and

515
00:28:34,015 --> 00:28:36,095
doing not just lockdown drills, but changing the

516
00:28:36,095 --> 00:28:38,255
whole protocol and the procedure to get away

517
00:28:38,255 --> 00:28:41,040
from any kind of danger and shooter. And

518
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,120
and we would do these drills, they would

519
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,960
come in and watch us do the drills,

520
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,800
and they'd give us feedback in our schools

521
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,120
to our staff. All all to help keep

522
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,160
our kids safe. I've been the superintendent for

523
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,535
eleven years, and my first time on the

524
00:28:54,535 --> 00:28:57,015
job, the first people I call the police

525
00:28:57,015 --> 00:28:58,855
chiefs that we're working with. I think it's

526
00:28:58,855 --> 00:29:01,175
important to do that. And since the district's

527
00:29:01,175 --> 00:29:03,095
called Westchester the first chief, I call it

528
00:29:03,095 --> 00:29:05,415
Westcott. And so I've been here a third

529
00:29:05,415 --> 00:29:08,695
of your years that you've been serving the

530
00:29:08,695 --> 00:29:11,630
community. And first thing he does is gives

531
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:14,430
me his cell phone. If you need anything,

532
00:29:14,430 --> 00:29:16,430
just give me a call. Little did he

533
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:18,670
know that we would be calling. I don't

534
00:29:18,670 --> 00:29:22,350
know what. Whether it was conducting safety drills,

535
00:29:22,350 --> 00:29:24,225
whether it was a drug bust or a

536
00:29:24,225 --> 00:29:26,785
bomb scare at Henderson High School, whether it

537
00:29:26,785 --> 00:29:28,945
was a dead body behind Hillsdale Elementary School

538
00:29:28,945 --> 00:29:33,825
from an overdose, whether it was a clown

539
00:29:33,825 --> 00:29:35,585
that was out in the community scaring people.

540
00:29:35,970 --> 00:29:37,490
Remember the clown we had to chase out

541
00:29:37,490 --> 00:29:40,929
of Hennessy a couple of years ago. He's

542
00:29:40,929 --> 00:29:44,370
always been there. He goes way out of

543
00:29:44,370 --> 00:29:46,130
his way to help, all the kids and

544
00:29:46,130 --> 00:29:48,690
everybody in the community. We are very blessed.

545
00:29:48,690 --> 00:29:50,850
I have worked with 11 different police forces

546
00:29:50,850 --> 00:29:53,295
in my twenty one years as a superintendent,

547
00:29:53,295 --> 00:29:55,215
and I gotta tell you, we are losing

548
00:29:55,215 --> 00:29:58,175
a chief that is among the best. I'm

549
00:29:58,175 --> 00:29:59,455
happy to know that he is going to

550
00:29:59,455 --> 00:30:01,135
be working in Harrisburg when he and I

551
00:30:01,135 --> 00:30:03,295
share some Harrisburg stories. It's good to know

552
00:30:03,295 --> 00:30:05,135
we have a friend out in Harrisburg now

553
00:30:05,299 --> 00:30:07,140
that, that we can actually try to help

554
00:30:07,140 --> 00:30:09,299
run some legislation. So, Scott, on behalf of

555
00:30:09,299 --> 00:30:11,380
all the kids, all the parents, that that

556
00:30:11,380 --> 00:30:12,900
you serve in our community, thanks so much

557
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:24,355
for keeping us all safe. So is there

558
00:30:24,355 --> 00:30:26,835
anyone else from the audience? Joe, Joe Norley.

559
00:30:27,715 --> 00:30:30,034
I just speak from here, seems to be

560
00:30:30,034 --> 00:30:33,395
a poem, know, but twenty years I moved

561
00:30:33,395 --> 00:31:57,350
to Westchester with my wife Anyone else? Jim,

562
00:31:57,350 --> 00:32:09,255
Jim Sargent. So, the only, thing I've heard

563
00:32:09,255 --> 00:32:12,534
this evening which would lead me to question

564
00:32:12,615 --> 00:32:15,895
Scott Bond's integrity is his claim that he's

565
00:32:15,895 --> 00:32:18,135
served here for thirty four years. Anyone can

566
00:32:18,135 --> 00:32:20,455
look at him and realize that means he

567
00:32:20,455 --> 00:32:26,670
was 10 year old when he started. Scott

568
00:32:27,310 --> 00:32:29,950
has done an incredible job of leading this

569
00:32:29,950 --> 00:32:33,710
police force, and the testament to his leadership

570
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:36,190
is the police force itself. I started law

571
00:32:36,190 --> 00:32:39,065
enforcement more years ago than I want to

572
00:32:39,065 --> 00:32:42,024
confess, but I've been a member of this

573
00:32:42,024 --> 00:32:45,544
community. I live and work here, and have

574
00:32:45,544 --> 00:32:52,040
since, the late 1970s. And, I will say

575
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,960
that this police department is a real testament

576
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,760
to the integrity of its leader. It's a

577
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,040
very difficult job. Every one of the police

578
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,425
officers I've ever met has discharged their, professional

579
00:33:07,425 --> 00:33:12,305
responsibility with the utmost integrity, and I really

580
00:33:12,305 --> 00:33:15,105
applaud you and the police department in this

581
00:33:15,105 --> 00:33:17,825
community. It is a testament to a community

582
00:33:17,825 --> 00:33:22,429
which is, know, open minded and fair minded.

583
00:33:22,590 --> 00:34:23,770
So, kudos to you. What else? Anyone else?

584
00:34:26,810 --> 00:34:31,210
Well, thank you all for your heartfelt and

585
00:34:31,210 --> 00:34:36,545
very true words. I'm mixing the agenda up

586
00:34:36,545 --> 00:34:38,304
a little and I'd like to ask the

587
00:34:38,304 --> 00:34:41,665
Brotherhood to now come up and provide their

588
00:34:41,665 --> 00:34:54,460
presentation to the Chief. David Hammond. I represent

589
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:57,180
the brotherhood, and this is, corporal Brad Burghi,

590
00:34:57,180 --> 00:35:02,305
our vice president. Civilians don't likely know, of

591
00:35:02,305 --> 00:35:05,585
an internal tradition that the, brotherhood has of

592
00:35:05,585 --> 00:35:09,265
honoring a member with a quality engraved watch

593
00:35:09,905 --> 00:35:13,820
after twenty years of service to the brotherhood

594
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:17,020
and the community. Membership in the brotherhood is

595
00:35:17,020 --> 00:35:20,380
only available to, officers with the rank of,

596
00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:24,140
sergeant and below. And due to the demands

597
00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:27,445
of the job and other reasons, a great

598
00:35:27,445 --> 00:35:30,325
number of officers never make it to twenty

599
00:35:30,325 --> 00:35:34,405
years. So it's a big achievement. The twenty

600
00:35:34,405 --> 00:35:36,485
year watch also has an added value in

601
00:35:36,485 --> 00:35:38,645
that it actually feels like a twenty five

602
00:35:38,645 --> 00:35:43,609
year watch. Chief Bond fell far short of

603
00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:47,609
this requirement for the twenty year watch. He

604
00:35:47,609 --> 00:35:50,250
was a failure in this regard, in that

605
00:35:51,609 --> 00:35:54,490
he had already been a lieutenant by year

606
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:59,415
14 or so? Seventeen. Seventeen? Okay. However, in

607
00:35:59,415 --> 00:36:02,375
recognition of his overall, service, the brotherhood has,

608
00:36:02,535 --> 00:36:06,295
waived this requirement for the chief and presents

609
00:36:06,295 --> 00:36:08,375
to him a twenty year watch that he

610
00:36:08,375 --> 00:37:27,940
never got. You said that last bit. It's

611
00:37:27,940 --> 00:37:33,780
the quick search. Okay. Thank you. Alright. Just

612
00:37:33,780 --> 00:37:49,435
one more. Thank you. So lastly, the two

613
00:37:49,435 --> 00:37:52,795
lieutenants and I would like to honor the

614
00:37:52,795 --> 00:38:17,625
chief. So, for full transparency, the Chief hates

615
00:38:17,625 --> 00:38:20,984
this. He doesn't like to be singled out

616
00:38:20,984 --> 00:38:23,530
because he said to me time and time

617
00:38:23,530 --> 00:38:26,250
and time again, it's not about him, it's

618
00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:28,890
about the entire force. And we all know

619
00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:32,250
that to be true. But everyone needs leadership

620
00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:36,695
and everyone needs good, strong leadership. And there

621
00:38:36,695 --> 00:38:39,735
is no doubt that Chief Bond has made

622
00:38:39,735 --> 00:38:43,575
a significant and lasting difference for our community.

623
00:38:45,015 --> 00:38:47,575
So, I thought to myself, rather than talk

624
00:38:47,575 --> 00:38:50,010
on and on and on, what are the

625
00:38:50,010 --> 00:38:53,050
three most important things I could say about

626
00:38:53,050 --> 00:38:56,330
him? And I thought about him, and I

627
00:38:56,330 --> 00:38:59,850
thought about who he is, and I came

628
00:38:59,850 --> 00:39:02,490
up with three words. And the first one

629
00:39:02,490 --> 00:39:09,135
is commitment, Because Chief Bond worked tirelessly during

630
00:39:09,135 --> 00:39:12,655
his tenure as chief for two decades to

631
00:39:12,655 --> 00:39:15,535
develop this police force into the modern age.

632
00:39:18,030 --> 00:39:21,710
To move into a community policing model, and

633
00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:26,110
to introduce transparency. We now have body cams

634
00:39:26,110 --> 00:39:28,590
for example. And he showed up at the

635
00:39:28,590 --> 00:39:31,785
NAACP meeting and he showed the body cam

636
00:39:31,785 --> 00:39:33,945
policy to everyone, and he said, I'd like

637
00:39:33,945 --> 00:39:35,785
you to take a look at this and

638
00:39:35,785 --> 00:39:38,505
give me your feedback. And I thought that

639
00:39:38,505 --> 00:39:42,425
was pretty impressive. And over the twenty years

640
00:39:42,425 --> 00:39:45,800
that he been chief, our serious crimes have

641
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,320
declined 58% and put Westchester Thirty Four Percent

642
00:39:51,320 --> 00:40:03,425
below the national average. He was also very

643
00:40:03,425 --> 00:40:07,745
committed to me, which I found wonderful because,

644
00:40:07,745 --> 00:40:09,665
you know, it's really hard for a chief

645
00:40:09,665 --> 00:40:13,440
because mayors come and mayors go. And mayors

646
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,880
have very different personalities. But he treated me

647
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,720
with respect and he helped me and he

648
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,120
taught me. And he would come in Monday

649
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,255
mornings and say, that damn mayor, she blew

650
00:40:25,255 --> 00:40:28,695
up my phone all weekend again. But he

651
00:40:28,695 --> 00:40:35,975
was really he was really kidding, I think,

652
00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:42,970
because he was always I hope truly, he

653
00:40:42,970 --> 00:40:46,410
was always there to help and to answer

654
00:40:46,410 --> 00:40:52,915
my questions. But most importantly, his top number

655
00:40:52,915 --> 00:40:56,435
one commitment was to this community. He had

656
00:40:56,435 --> 00:40:58,675
an open door policy and he took every

657
00:40:58,675 --> 00:41:00,435
call and every email that came in and

658
00:41:00,435 --> 00:41:02,995
he responded immediately and he's told me over

659
00:41:02,995 --> 00:41:05,880
and over, this isn't about me, it's not

660
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,839
about you, it's not about counsel, I apologize,

661
00:41:08,839 --> 00:41:11,880
it's about this community. And he meant it,

662
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,599
and he practiced it every day. So that's

663
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:18,839
number one. The second thing, the second word

664
00:41:18,839 --> 00:41:21,695
I would use to describe Chief Bond is

665
00:41:21,695 --> 00:41:26,735
intellect. I had someone very recently say to

666
00:41:26,735 --> 00:41:29,135
me, he's a genius. And I looked at

667
00:41:29,135 --> 00:41:31,935
him and he said, just flat out, no,

668
00:41:31,935 --> 00:41:35,849
like he's really smart. And he is. He's

669
00:41:35,849 --> 00:41:40,570
incredibly intelligent. I never asked him his IQ,

670
00:41:40,970 --> 00:41:44,490
but he has a tremendous ability to evaluate

671
00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:49,049
and analyze. And his positions are always incredibly

672
00:41:49,049 --> 00:41:52,355
well researched. They're supported and they're always put

673
00:41:52,355 --> 00:41:57,395
in the proper context. We had a man,

674
00:41:57,395 --> 00:41:59,395
a gentleman who was in a severe car

675
00:41:59,395 --> 00:42:01,155
accident in the borough and he lost his

676
00:42:01,155 --> 00:42:04,435
wife. And he came in here because he

677
00:42:04,435 --> 00:42:08,640
was so happy with the way our officers

678
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,640
treated him and treated his wife. And he

679
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,080
wanted to thank the chief. And afterwards, we

680
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,000
had a discussion in my office and then

681
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,680
the chief left and I talked to him

682
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,135
for a while longer and he said, He's

683
00:42:23,135 --> 00:42:27,135
really your chief? He said, I expected this

684
00:42:27,135 --> 00:42:32,415
big, gruff, you know, burly dude. And what

685
00:42:32,415 --> 00:42:38,390
I met was an incredibly intelligent, compassionate, articulate,

686
00:42:39,350 --> 00:42:42,950
fair man. And he just could not say

687
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:45,830
enough about Chief Bond. And I think that

688
00:42:45,830 --> 00:42:48,870
kind of says it all. And then my

689
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:52,895
third word is fairness. You know, there's no

690
00:42:52,895 --> 00:42:57,295
such thing as presumption in police work, and

691
00:42:57,295 --> 00:43:01,375
we all know that, but Chief Bond never

692
00:43:01,935 --> 00:43:06,789
swayed. He never veered from that principle. He's

693
00:43:06,789 --> 00:43:10,869
incredibly objective. He's entirely apolitical, which is so

694
00:43:10,869 --> 00:43:13,510
nice. And the world I come from is

695
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:18,869
wonderfully refreshing. And I, you know, there were

696
00:43:18,869 --> 00:43:20,710
a couple times when I would have victims

697
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:24,925
of crimes, call me after they'd been through

698
00:43:24,925 --> 00:43:26,925
the whole justice system, the court system, the

699
00:43:26,925 --> 00:43:30,365
whole process, and they would feel as if

700
00:43:30,365 --> 00:43:33,965
justice wasn't served. They were still suffering. And

701
00:43:33,965 --> 00:43:37,030
I would invite them in, and I remember

702
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:40,150
one incidence where the chief came in to

703
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:43,829
help a young woman. And he was so

704
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:47,270
wonderful. He didn't condescend to her in any

705
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:49,805
way, but he explained to her the process.

706
00:43:49,805 --> 00:43:52,684
He empathized with her. He was incredibly fair

707
00:43:52,684 --> 00:43:58,285
about the realities. And you know, we can't

708
00:43:59,244 --> 00:44:01,565
give them the justice that they feel they

709
00:44:01,565 --> 00:44:04,870
deserve. But when she left that room, I

710
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:08,470
knew that the chief had helped her. He

711
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:11,910
helped her move toward closure and healing by

712
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:16,464
listening to her and helping her understand. So,

713
00:44:16,464 --> 00:44:18,625
I want to thank you for your commitment,

714
00:44:18,785 --> 00:44:21,744
for your intellect, and for your fairness, and

715
00:44:21,744 --> 00:44:25,505
for your lasting contributions to our community. Thank

716
00:44:25,505 --> 00:44:36,440
you. I appreciate that. This is a citation

717
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,280
from the mayor's office and from all the

718
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,280
residents of this community thanking you. And this,

719
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,920
this is our new key to the city

720
00:44:44,920 --> 00:45:12,550
with our new borough flag on it. So

721
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:14,310
are we it? We get to see You're

722
00:45:14,310 --> 00:45:17,505
out. You're out. You're out. Three things of

723
00:45:17,505 --> 00:45:20,945
note. Marty voted me to speak tonight. So

724
00:45:20,945 --> 00:45:24,785
since yes and you're already. Three things. So

725
00:45:24,945 --> 00:45:28,145
Doctor. Scanlon, I look around, I see judges,

726
00:45:28,145 --> 00:45:29,905
I see state police, I see other police

727
00:45:29,905 --> 00:45:33,450
chiefs. Huge outpouring, it's fantastic. Our public safety

728
00:45:33,450 --> 00:45:38,330
community is here, from the county. Yeah, we're

729
00:45:38,330 --> 00:45:40,810
all going to miss them. It's, it's that

730
00:45:40,810 --> 00:45:42,810
time has come. You know, Marty and I

731
00:45:42,810 --> 00:45:44,170
are towards the end of our careers. We

732
00:45:44,170 --> 00:45:47,714
wish it would have came sooner, but it's

733
00:45:47,714 --> 00:45:51,635
okay. It's all good. But the one thing

734
00:45:51,635 --> 00:45:54,675
the chief impressed upon us, time in, time

735
00:45:54,675 --> 00:45:56,755
out again, and it was brought up many

736
00:45:56,755 --> 00:46:00,200
times tonight, depending on which direction you're heard

737
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,160
it, but it's the people of this police

738
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,560
force. The chief always had a way of

739
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,320
hiring good people. And, you know, all the

740
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,560
officers that are in attendance tonight, they were

741
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,255
hired by the chief. It's because of you

742
00:46:14,255 --> 00:46:16,335
that crime rates have dropped the way they

743
00:46:16,335 --> 00:46:18,415
have. It's because of you that words like

744
00:46:18,415 --> 00:46:23,935
professionalism and responsiveness and community were shown tonight.

745
00:46:23,935 --> 00:46:26,670
So we really thank you for that. Marty

746
00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:28,990
and I were reflecting earlier today on the

747
00:46:28,990 --> 00:46:30,750
biggest thing we miss, since you've been gone

748
00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:32,349
now for a little over a month. And

749
00:46:32,349 --> 00:46:33,550
I've to be honest with you, we miss

750
00:46:33,550 --> 00:46:37,950
Tracy. Tracy brought the coffee, brought the salad,

751
00:46:37,950 --> 00:46:41,414
we don't that's gone. So we really don't

752
00:46:41,414 --> 00:46:45,335
miss you because We call you twice a

753
00:46:45,335 --> 00:46:47,255
week at least now anyway. So we still

754
00:46:47,255 --> 00:46:49,255
have access to you, but Trace, feel free

755
00:46:49,255 --> 00:46:52,375
to come back. So we miss you. We're

756
00:46:52,375 --> 00:46:54,134
now a little bit mad at the brotherhood

757
00:46:54,134 --> 00:46:56,160
because you got a watch given to him

758
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,599
tonight. We wish he would have had that

759
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:02,960
for our many long meetings because every everybody

760
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,480
knows how that, how that impacted us over

761
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,920
the years, but it was all all for

762
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,205
great reason. So with that being said, the

763
00:47:12,205 --> 00:47:15,165
police administration and the members of the police

764
00:47:15,165 --> 00:47:16,685
department would like to present you with a

765
00:47:16,685 --> 00:47:17,725
couple gifts, but we're going to give you

766
00:47:17,725 --> 00:47:19,725
one tonight. We're to save one for later.

767
00:47:19,965 --> 00:47:21,565
But that gift comes from all the men

768
00:47:21,565 --> 00:47:24,010
and women of the police department. Had the

769
00:47:24,010 --> 00:47:25,450
mayor's input on it. Had a lot of

770
00:47:25,450 --> 00:47:28,490
Stacy and Emily input on it as well.

771
00:47:28,490 --> 00:47:31,290
And I'd like to present you with just

772
00:47:31,290 --> 00:47:33,370
a token of thirty four years of appreciation

773
00:47:33,370 --> 00:47:36,490
from from us. These are all the chief's

774
00:47:36,490 --> 00:48:27,710
badges, including Malcolm. Thirty four years in Polyester.

775
00:48:29,070 --> 00:48:33,310
Got a change in wardrobe. I can't possibly,

776
00:48:33,310 --> 00:48:36,750
and I'm extremely humbled by everything that's been

777
00:48:36,750 --> 00:48:40,615
said tonight. And I will be short, I

778
00:48:40,615 --> 00:48:44,055
get it. I have gotten it for a

779
00:48:44,055 --> 00:48:49,255
while, yeah, I know. But, you know, I've

780
00:48:49,255 --> 00:48:51,015
been in front of, I've worked for, and

781
00:48:51,015 --> 00:48:52,535
I don't, and I was thinking about this

782
00:48:53,070 --> 00:48:55,790
earlier in the week, how many different council

783
00:48:55,790 --> 00:48:58,350
people over the last thirty four years, and

784
00:48:58,350 --> 00:49:00,670
certainly over the last twenty that I've worked

785
00:49:00,670 --> 00:49:05,230
with. I've had the opportunity to work with

786
00:49:05,230 --> 00:49:12,115
six different mayors, different parties, all excellent people.

787
00:49:12,755 --> 00:49:17,075
I was hired by, Doctor. Debaptiste, back in

788
00:49:17,075 --> 00:49:20,515
1999 after the untimely death of, one of

789
00:49:20,515 --> 00:49:26,970
my mentors, Chief Green. The most important function

790
00:49:26,970 --> 00:49:30,410
of government is public safety. And I'm a

791
00:49:30,410 --> 00:49:33,849
native of Westchester, so I've spent my entire

792
00:49:33,849 --> 00:49:36,890
life here. The intellect comes from Westchester School

793
00:49:36,890 --> 00:49:39,355
District, which I'm a graduate. Give you that

794
00:49:39,355 --> 00:49:44,234
plug, Doctor. Scanlon. But, you know, I've always

795
00:49:44,234 --> 00:49:45,755
looked at it as a bit of what

796
00:49:45,755 --> 00:49:47,355
we do and how we do it as

797
00:49:47,355 --> 00:49:51,000
being family. It does require all of that

798
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,120
collaboration, with our school district, working with our

799
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,480
university. I was talking to Malcolm Johnston, I

800
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,760
know he's here somewhere. There you are Malcolm,

801
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,080
thank you for all that you do. And

802
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,694
remembering what the community was like, remembering certainly

803
00:50:07,694 --> 00:50:11,135
in experiencing what our crime was going back

804
00:50:11,135 --> 00:50:15,295
in 1999 to where we are today, and

805
00:50:15,295 --> 00:50:19,770
such a significant drop in our crime rate.

806
00:50:20,009 --> 00:50:22,490
And I think that is really a testament

807
00:50:22,490 --> 00:50:25,369
to the fine men and women in our

808
00:50:25,369 --> 00:50:27,769
police department. Now I've taken full credit for

809
00:50:27,769 --> 00:50:32,934
that on my resume, but I certainly am

810
00:50:32,934 --> 00:50:35,815
cognizant of the work and the sacrifice that

811
00:50:35,815 --> 00:50:38,375
all the men and women of this police

812
00:50:38,375 --> 00:50:41,015
department have made to this community. And I've

813
00:50:41,015 --> 00:50:42,775
always thought that was the good part of

814
00:50:42,775 --> 00:50:46,615
what we did, is the way our police

815
00:50:46,615 --> 00:50:50,270
officers were vested in their community. And you're

816
00:50:50,270 --> 00:50:53,150
working with partners, people like Kevin, the Chester

817
00:50:53,150 --> 00:50:56,350
County Detectives, the state police, the county sheriffs,

818
00:50:56,350 --> 00:50:58,910
there are just so many. But they were

819
00:50:58,910 --> 00:51:02,430
always, not only partners, but they were friends,

820
00:51:02,430 --> 00:51:05,165
people you could pick up the phone, call,

821
00:51:05,485 --> 00:51:09,565
and get the work, done. I certainly want

822
00:51:09,565 --> 00:51:12,765
to thank Tracy for her support. You got

823
00:51:12,765 --> 00:51:16,690
the invite back, I did not. They've cut

824
00:51:16,690 --> 00:51:19,090
my card access, they've cut everything. I can't

825
00:51:19,090 --> 00:51:22,290
get back into the building. My daughter Lauren's

826
00:51:22,290 --> 00:51:25,330
here, my stepmother Carol, and I saw Tracy's

827
00:51:25,330 --> 00:51:28,210
mom Wendy. Ben is here as well, and

828
00:51:28,210 --> 00:51:31,785
Tracy's sister, Emily, in the back. So, you

829
00:51:31,785 --> 00:51:34,665
know, this is just a little bit overwhelming,

830
00:51:34,825 --> 00:51:39,625
for me. It's certainly been my privilege, to

831
00:51:39,625 --> 00:51:41,865
be part of this community. I'm still part

832
00:51:41,865 --> 00:51:44,780
of the community. I still feel like, I

833
00:51:44,780 --> 00:51:46,540
am a member of the family. I always

834
00:51:46,540 --> 00:51:48,940
consider all of the people that I worked

835
00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:53,180
with, as members of my family. So I'm

836
00:51:53,180 --> 00:51:56,460
extremely grateful, for the number of people who

837
00:51:56,460 --> 00:51:59,795
came here tonight, and I can't thank you

838
00:51:59,795 --> 00:52:04,035
enough. On behalf of the entire police department,

839
00:52:04,035 --> 00:52:06,275
and certainly counsel, thank you this evening. Sorry

840
00:52:06,275 --> 00:52:09,875
I have my back to you, but, I

841
00:52:09,875 --> 00:52:12,350
can only say thank you. Really, you've given

842
00:52:12,350 --> 00:52:13,870
back more to me than I could have

843
00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:18,110
possibly ever given to you. And, certainly in

844
00:52:18,110 --> 00:52:22,830
my travels around the state, you know, Westchester,

845
00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:27,925
well recognized, highly thought of. I certainly always

846
00:52:27,925 --> 00:52:31,765
still promote, Westchester and what's going on, with

847
00:52:31,765 --> 00:52:34,964
our community. And I think we have, by

848
00:52:34,964 --> 00:52:37,365
comparison, such a great deal to be grateful

849
00:52:37,365 --> 00:52:39,765
for and proud of. So I thank all

850
00:52:39,765 --> 00:52:41,285
of you because all of you have had

851
00:52:41,285 --> 00:52:43,400
a role in that. And I'm happy that

852
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,119
I had the opportunity to participate. So, thank

853
00:52:46,119 --> 00:53:24,090
you. Lauren, I should say that that first

854
00:53:24,090 --> 00:53:25,770
meeting I was talking about, he spent a

855
00:53:25,770 --> 00:53:27,675
good portion of it talking about you in

856
00:53:27,675 --> 00:53:29,755
a way that made it very clear how

857
00:53:29,755 --> 00:53:31,755
proud he was, and in a way that

858
00:53:31,755 --> 00:53:33,355
I'm sure I'll be talking about my daughters

859
00:53:33,355 --> 00:53:36,075
in thirty years. They're only seven in five

860
00:53:36,075 --> 00:53:41,510
months. Not that I'm not proud. We'll let

861
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:43,830
everybody who is here for this file out

862
00:53:43,830 --> 00:53:47,270
before we move on. And thank you everyone

863
00:53:47,270 --> 00:55:03,180
for coming, and thank you, Chief. Yeah. Yeah.

864
00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:11,580
It was yeah. It's pretty cool. How you

865
00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:32,580
doing? The next topic for our discussion tonight

866
00:55:32,580 --> 00:55:34,339
is number eight, which is approval of the

867
00:55:34,339 --> 00:55:38,020
board and commission appointments. The first item is

868
00:55:38,020 --> 00:55:41,540
for the historical commission. There's one candidate listed

869
00:55:41,540 --> 00:55:43,140
there, and then we met the other candidate

870
00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:46,465
earlier today. We have two positions and two

871
00:55:46,465 --> 00:55:49,985
candidates. I think we if we wanted to

872
00:55:49,985 --> 00:55:51,345
move both of them on at the same

873
00:55:51,345 --> 00:55:56,225
time, we could do that. So moved. Second.

874
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:01,380
Motion by Mr. Brazelin, second by Ms. Polk.

875
00:56:01,780 --> 00:56:04,740
Can you, to appoint these two individuals to

876
00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:13,645
those? Mr. Nell? Yes. Yes. Yes. Aye. Yes.

877
00:56:15,085 --> 00:56:18,605
The motion carries seven-zero. The next one is

878
00:56:18,605 --> 00:56:20,845
the hard one. I would like to make

879
00:56:20,845 --> 00:56:23,165
a proposal and throw it out there for

880
00:56:23,165 --> 00:56:28,820
discussion. I think Ms. DiFrancesco is clearly well

881
00:56:28,820 --> 00:56:32,340
qualified for the Sustainability Commission and expressed at

882
00:56:32,340 --> 00:56:34,340
least some interest in that. So I'd like

883
00:56:34,340 --> 00:56:38,340
to suggest that she sustainability. I know Mr.

884
00:56:38,340 --> 00:56:42,215
Forg expressed an interest in the Railroad Commission,

885
00:56:42,215 --> 00:56:43,335
so I think we should put him on

886
00:56:43,335 --> 00:56:47,815
the Railroad Commission. I think we should put

887
00:56:47,815 --> 00:56:50,935
Ms. McDonald on the library board and Ms.

888
00:56:50,935 --> 00:56:56,660
Reichel Herman on the that Ms. McDonald had

889
00:56:56,660 --> 00:57:00,099
attended a library board meeting in anticipation of

890
00:57:00,099 --> 00:57:03,140
her application, and I was particularly impressed with

891
00:57:03,140 --> 00:57:07,140
her discussion of meeting with her clients as

892
00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:10,035
guardian ad litem, which means her clients are

893
00:57:10,035 --> 00:57:13,395
all children, and directing them to the library

894
00:57:13,395 --> 00:57:20,835
as a source for access to information. Does

895
00:57:20,835 --> 00:57:24,780
anybody else have any contrary thoughts? Would you

896
00:57:24,780 --> 00:57:27,660
do it on the board? Number, we're on

897
00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:35,420
the library board list. Can we do that

898
00:57:35,420 --> 00:57:40,484
like that? All right, so the motion by

899
00:57:40,484 --> 00:57:44,885
Mr. Scott to appoint Ms. DeFrancesco and Ms.

900
00:57:44,885 --> 00:57:48,165
Reichel Kerman to the Sustainability Commission, to appoint

901
00:57:48,165 --> 00:57:50,005
Ms. McDonald to the Library Board, and to

902
00:57:50,005 --> 00:57:52,085
appoint Mr. Ford to the Railroad Commission. Do

903
00:57:52,085 --> 00:57:55,570
I have a second? Second. Second by Mr.

904
00:57:55,570 --> 00:58:00,050
Flynn. Can you call the question please? Yes.

905
00:58:00,050 --> 00:58:10,355
Yes. Yes. Yes. Motion carries seven zero. We

906
00:58:10,355 --> 00:58:12,275
have one open position and one applicant for

907
00:58:12,275 --> 00:58:14,915
the Sustainability Advisory Committee on the next slate.

908
00:58:15,875 --> 00:58:18,835
That seems like a no brainer. A motion?

909
00:58:19,555 --> 00:58:23,140
That is read. Second. All right, motion by

910
00:58:23,140 --> 00:58:27,380
Mr. Flynn, second by Mr. Bracelin. Yes. Mr.

911
00:58:27,380 --> 00:58:32,100
Flynn? Yes. Yes. Mr. Bracelin? Yes. Aye. Yes,

912
00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:35,335
the motion carries seven zero. On the next,

913
00:58:35,335 --> 00:58:39,015
we have two candidates, one for a full

914
00:58:39,015 --> 00:58:41,495
board member position and the other for an

915
00:58:41,495 --> 00:58:45,815
alternate position. My feeling on this one, and

916
00:58:45,815 --> 00:58:47,415
I'll throw this out for discussion as well,

917
00:58:47,415 --> 00:58:51,370
is that Ms. Clark clearly does this professionally.

918
00:58:53,450 --> 00:58:55,610
So I would recommend her for the open

919
00:58:55,610 --> 00:59:06,575
position in Ms. Second. Second by Ms. Pohl.

920
00:59:06,575 --> 00:59:15,375
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Aye. Yes. The motion

921
00:59:15,375 --> 00:59:23,070
passes seven zero. All right, thank you. The

922
00:59:23,070 --> 00:59:27,150
next item on our agenda is approval of

923
00:59:27,150 --> 00:59:30,750
the proposed enterprise vehicle leasing program. I think

924
00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:32,355
I'm going to turn this over to Mr.

925
00:59:32,355 --> 00:59:35,555
Flynn, who's been dealing with this for days.

926
00:59:35,555 --> 00:59:37,875
Don't know if has a comment for other

927
00:59:37,875 --> 00:59:41,875
council members. Hi, good evening. A year ago,

928
00:59:42,515 --> 00:59:48,640
we entertained Enterprise Leasing Corporation to find out

929
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,440
whether the borough would actually fit the model

930
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:58,560
for leasing vehicles through enterprise. It was very

931
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:03,715
large study. Miss LeBold did the contracts. She

932
01:00:03,715 --> 01:00:10,995
called every contact that the enterprise gave us.

933
01:00:11,075 --> 01:00:13,635
She heard back from four out of five,

934
01:00:14,090 --> 01:00:16,810
and they all come back with sterling reviews.

935
01:00:17,290 --> 01:00:22,570
There were some startup issues with one of

936
01:00:22,570 --> 01:00:26,570
them, but, enterprise is able to, move things

937
01:00:26,570 --> 01:00:29,934
around to make sure that the hiccups were

938
01:00:29,934 --> 01:00:33,375
actually fixed. I was in charge of contracts,

939
01:00:36,015 --> 01:00:38,895
meeting enterprise and trying to figure out whether

940
01:00:38,895 --> 01:00:41,775
we'd actually have a cost savings if we

941
01:00:41,775 --> 01:00:46,520
did lease our vehicles from enterprise. And you'll

942
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,520
be able to hear the outcome of that

943
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,680
a little bit later on. Then what we

944
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,720
did was we brought in the fleet manager

945
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,605
to meet with the study team and with

946
01:00:59,605 --> 01:01:03,445
enterprise to make sure that we were making

947
01:01:03,445 --> 01:01:06,885
the right decision for the borough. And Mr.

948
01:01:06,885 --> 01:01:08,805
Jason Barnes was sitting in all the meetings

949
01:01:08,805 --> 01:01:12,279
for thereafter to make sure that it would

950
01:01:12,279 --> 01:01:13,880
be a fit for the borough to start

951
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:20,200
leasing light body trucks and passenger vehicles. The

952
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,160
state actually did us a favor. We're all

953
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:28,015
familiar with the word co stars. Well, seven

954
01:01:28,015 --> 01:01:31,855
months, eight months into the study, even though

955
01:01:31,855 --> 01:01:34,415
Mr. Anthony told me the first day, of

956
01:01:34,415 --> 01:01:38,335
course I didn't remember, SourceWell is actually the

957
01:01:38,335 --> 01:01:46,470
approved commonwealth car leasing agent that's been approved

958
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:51,109
by Harrisburg, just like CoStar's. CoStar's, we buy

959
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:56,150
equipment, SourceWell is vehicles for buying, selling and

960
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:59,805
leasing cars. We are very relieved to find

961
01:01:59,805 --> 01:02:03,725
out that Enterprise actually had the contract. At

962
01:02:03,725 --> 01:02:06,045
that particular time, we gave all the contracts

963
01:02:06,045 --> 01:02:09,645
to our solicitor. She did change some of

964
01:02:09,645 --> 01:02:13,779
the contracts around to meet our needs And,

965
01:02:14,660 --> 01:02:18,019
Enterprise was actually able to, let us do

966
01:02:18,019 --> 01:02:19,700
what we had to do to do it.

967
01:02:19,779 --> 01:02:23,619
This is an open end lease. So we're

968
01:02:23,619 --> 01:02:26,655
not locked in. If we decide we don't

969
01:02:26,655 --> 01:02:28,655
like them and they don't like us, we

970
01:02:28,655 --> 01:02:30,975
have a meeting and we decide it's over.

971
01:02:31,135 --> 01:02:34,095
So the cars and trucks that we buy

972
01:02:34,335 --> 01:02:37,375
or lease, they're ours. They're in our name.

973
01:02:37,710 --> 01:02:40,109
We have to ensure them. We have to

974
01:02:40,109 --> 01:02:42,270
make sure that we maintain them according to

975
01:02:42,270 --> 01:02:47,710
enterprises, protocol in order to stay within their

976
01:02:47,710 --> 01:02:51,230
program. And we also have to, make sure

977
01:02:51,230 --> 01:02:54,685
that we follow their procedures because the big

978
01:02:54,685 --> 01:02:57,565
return on leasing is when they tell us

979
01:02:57,565 --> 01:02:59,325
we have to get rid of a vehicle.

980
01:02:59,965 --> 01:03:02,045
It's time to flip the vehicle because it's

981
01:03:02,045 --> 01:03:04,765
at its highest resale value. That's the big

982
01:03:04,765 --> 01:03:08,400
thing about leasing. Use as much as you

983
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,960
need to use it, but as they see

984
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,960
in the market that that vehicle needs to

985
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,840
be flipped out, they'll notify us right away

986
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,040
to get it flipped out. We also purchased

987
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,600
along with that would be a maintenance package.

988
01:03:22,145 --> 01:03:24,385
The maintenance package you heard last night is

989
01:03:24,385 --> 01:03:27,505
all the local vendors for oil changes, windshield

990
01:03:27,505 --> 01:03:32,945
wipers, top fixed tires, anything that goes wrong

991
01:03:32,945 --> 01:03:35,920
with the general maintenance of the vehicle is

992
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,320
covered under our maintenance package that we have

993
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,400
with Enterprise. So that actually helps out our

994
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,840
motor pool people quite often where they don't

995
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,680
have to run around trying to find a

996
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,925
vendor to get something fixed. They go to

997
01:03:49,925 --> 01:03:52,085
the closest vendor, which is Pep Boys, and

998
01:03:52,085 --> 01:03:54,565
I think it's Auto World, right across the

999
01:03:54,565 --> 01:03:57,765
street, right across the outside the window. So,

1000
01:03:58,485 --> 01:04:01,525
that's in a nutshell, we've able to work

1001
01:04:01,525 --> 01:04:03,925
through everything. It took us a good year

1002
01:04:03,930 --> 01:04:05,850
to do this. It was a heavy lift

1003
01:04:06,809 --> 01:04:09,130
to make sure that we covered every base.

1004
01:04:09,210 --> 01:04:11,609
Miss LeBold was totally against this thing in

1005
01:04:11,609 --> 01:04:14,329
the very beginning. And she did a three

1006
01:04:14,329 --> 01:04:18,905
sixty and she's 100% behind the lease program.

1007
01:04:19,545 --> 01:04:21,145
And at this time, I'd like to have

1008
01:04:21,145 --> 01:04:24,185
Mr. Barnes come up for a couple seconds.

1009
01:04:24,265 --> 01:04:26,185
I did prep Mr. Barnes and tell him

1010
01:04:26,185 --> 01:04:27,865
that he was going be called on. I

1011
01:04:27,865 --> 01:04:28,985
was actually going to ask you to come

1012
01:04:28,985 --> 01:04:33,030
up without even warning Because Mr. Barnes is

1013
01:04:33,030 --> 01:04:36,230
going to be responsible to make sure if

1014
01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:41,110
we move forward to handle the contract. Yes,

1015
01:04:41,110 --> 01:04:44,790
Jason Barnes, fleet manager. So initially when I

1016
01:04:44,790 --> 01:04:46,865
first got here, it was given to me.

1017
01:04:46,865 --> 01:04:48,464
I've only been here about six, seven months

1018
01:04:48,464 --> 01:04:50,545
now. So initially it was given to me.

1019
01:04:51,825 --> 01:04:54,224
I really didn't understand it, but as I

1020
01:04:54,224 --> 01:04:57,025
looked into it, it isn't a great opportunity

1021
01:04:57,585 --> 01:04:59,984
because of the fact that two things, one

1022
01:04:59,984 --> 01:05:02,770
Westchester is small, so we don't tear our

1023
01:05:02,770 --> 01:05:05,250
cars up at all. So when he was

1024
01:05:05,250 --> 01:05:06,930
talking about the resale value, we will get

1025
01:05:06,930 --> 01:05:09,410
the maximum resale value because our cars are

1026
01:05:09,410 --> 01:05:12,290
not abused. And when they go to turn

1027
01:05:12,290 --> 01:05:13,490
it over, it's a great, it's a great

1028
01:05:13,490 --> 01:05:16,855
opportunity. If you're looking for small vehicles, like

1029
01:05:16,855 --> 01:05:20,135
he said, light trucks and passenger vehicles, your

1030
01:05:20,135 --> 01:05:22,855
parking and your building and housing, is excellent

1031
01:05:22,855 --> 01:05:24,375
for that because parking is not going that

1032
01:05:24,375 --> 01:05:26,535
far, building houses not going that far. And

1033
01:05:26,535 --> 01:05:28,920
also a variety of cars. At this present

1034
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,560
time, Ford, is getting rid of their hybrid

1035
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,560
cars. So the five that we have right

1036
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,960
now, that's it. But now we can do

1037
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:40,680
different manufacturers that, have hybrid vehicles and electric

1038
01:05:40,795 --> 01:05:43,515
We already have charging stations. So, at this

1039
01:05:43,515 --> 01:05:45,195
point, we have a variety of cars that

1040
01:05:45,195 --> 01:05:47,995
we can use, not just one manufacturer. And

1041
01:05:47,995 --> 01:05:50,235
we can switch up manufacturers because of the

1042
01:05:50,235 --> 01:05:53,275
fact that, we're not doing the service. We

1043
01:05:53,275 --> 01:05:55,450
have a maintenance program for it. We're not

1044
01:05:55,450 --> 01:05:57,930
really doing the service on that. Aside for,

1045
01:05:57,930 --> 01:06:00,730
if we become an authorized shop to do

1046
01:06:00,730 --> 01:06:02,970
it with the oil changes and maybe some

1047
01:06:02,970 --> 01:06:05,290
tires and that's about it. But because the

1048
01:06:05,290 --> 01:06:07,050
cars are so new and anybody knows with

1049
01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:09,125
a new car, you don't do that much

1050
01:06:09,125 --> 01:06:11,605
to it. You pretty much just gas and

1051
01:06:11,605 --> 01:06:16,165
go. So, the opportunity is good. So I

1052
01:06:16,165 --> 01:06:18,724
suggest that we go forward with it. You,

1053
01:06:18,724 --> 01:06:25,330
Mr. The follow-up Mr. Barnes, the first you're

1054
01:06:25,330 --> 01:06:29,010
Our last fleet manager wasn't able to provide

1055
01:06:29,010 --> 01:06:32,610
us with what it costs in parts only

1056
01:06:32,770 --> 01:06:35,090
to maintain our fleet as it sits down

1057
01:06:35,090 --> 01:06:38,165
the garage. Mr. Barnes was able to capture

1058
01:06:38,165 --> 01:06:42,325
all that information. And in six months we've

1059
01:06:42,325 --> 01:06:50,710
spent 90 one thousand in just parts. 100,000

1060
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:56,550
parts, hopefully savings unless something major breaks your

1061
01:06:56,550 --> 01:06:59,670
trucks. And the biggest fault that we had,

1062
01:06:59,670 --> 01:07:02,150
and we realized at the borough is we

1063
01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:05,115
would buy vehicles and we would run them

1064
01:07:05,115 --> 01:07:07,995
till they would not run any longer. And

1065
01:07:07,995 --> 01:07:09,995
then we put them on muni bid. And

1066
01:07:09,995 --> 01:07:11,275
then once we put them on muni bid,

1067
01:07:11,275 --> 01:07:14,795
we got scrap prices for them. So with

1068
01:07:14,795 --> 01:07:17,595
the new vehicles coming in and out every

1069
01:07:17,595 --> 01:07:20,210
three years, three to five years, whatever the

1070
01:07:20,210 --> 01:07:23,010
program is going to be. It keeps our

1071
01:07:23,010 --> 01:07:26,210
people safe. It keeps them in a newer

1072
01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:28,930
vehicle, a hybrid vehicle. I think we're going

1073
01:07:28,930 --> 01:07:31,785
to go to a lot of electric vehicles.

1074
01:07:32,025 --> 01:07:35,865
So that's my report, Mr. Gowdy. Thank you.

1075
01:07:35,865 --> 01:07:38,744
Question on the vehicle choices. Have those been

1076
01:07:38,744 --> 01:07:40,345
made yet or will we make those as

1077
01:07:40,345 --> 01:07:53,280
we go forward in the program? Thank you.

1078
01:07:53,359 --> 01:07:56,160
I reminded everybody yesterday, and I forgot myself

1079
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,755
this day. No, you're fine. We were waiting

1080
01:07:58,755 --> 01:08:00,835
until a final decision was made before we

1081
01:08:00,835 --> 01:08:02,595
locked down on the specs and the vehicles

1082
01:08:02,595 --> 01:08:04,115
that we were going to select because of

1083
01:08:04,115 --> 01:08:06,595
availability, given the model year that we're in.

1084
01:08:06,595 --> 01:08:08,835
We're coming up against a lot of deadlines

1085
01:08:08,835 --> 01:08:11,395
to place orders. Who makes the final determination

1086
01:08:11,395 --> 01:08:14,010
of which vehicles which? Male You do. I

1087
01:08:14,010 --> 01:08:16,010
make the recommendation based off of a variety

1088
01:08:16,010 --> 01:08:18,010
of different aspects, but ultimately you're the decision

1089
01:08:18,010 --> 01:08:19,930
maker. Feel like one of the most interesting

1090
01:08:19,930 --> 01:08:21,850
aspects of this is the ability to go

1091
01:08:21,850 --> 01:08:29,725
into Absolutely. Sounds like we'll have an ability

1092
01:08:29,725 --> 01:08:32,925
to kind of work towards that. Absolutely. The

1093
01:08:32,925 --> 01:08:35,885
equity lease product will allow us to shorten

1094
01:08:35,885 --> 01:08:37,805
the life cycle of the fleet, is the

1095
01:08:37,805 --> 01:08:40,560
old time. Mr. Gale, I believe that we

1096
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,560
have what six or seven units talked about

1097
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,560
for 2020. We were at a total of

1098
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,880
eight. Okay. Based off of some of the

1099
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,720
values we were able to get on the

1100
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,805
resale. Eight vehicles, because that's our normal. Yeah,

1101
01:08:53,805 --> 01:08:56,845
we have about eight vehicles that we've, Anthony

1102
01:08:56,845 --> 01:08:58,845
and I picked out so far. They're older

1103
01:08:58,845 --> 01:09:01,645
vehicles. Mr. Allen was talking about last night

1104
01:09:01,645 --> 01:09:04,365
about fuel efficiency, about the rise in the

1105
01:09:04,365 --> 01:09:07,620
cost of fuel. And these eight vehicles are

1106
01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:10,260
as they get older, they're less fuel efficient.

1107
01:09:10,340 --> 01:09:13,219
So, getting into these eight vehicles right now,

1108
01:09:13,939 --> 01:09:15,939
you know, give us a couple of dollars

1109
01:09:16,020 --> 01:09:17,540
for the borough because we will sell them

1110
01:09:17,540 --> 01:09:19,460
on this a bit. And we will get

1111
01:09:19,460 --> 01:09:21,380
new cars that are more fuel efficient. Yes.

1112
01:09:21,460 --> 01:09:22,764
So we have about eight vehicles right now

1113
01:09:22,764 --> 01:09:26,124
and they're all older vehicles. To also mention,

1114
01:09:26,204 --> 01:09:28,284
we keep a vehicle about ten years now.

1115
01:09:28,524 --> 01:09:29,965
So, you know, if you've had a ten

1116
01:09:29,965 --> 01:09:32,364
year old vehicle, it gets a little rough

1117
01:09:32,364 --> 01:09:33,965
after about ten years. So yeah, we keep

1118
01:09:33,965 --> 01:09:38,510
a vehicle on average about ten years. Any

1119
01:09:38,510 --> 01:09:42,910
other comments or questions from counsel? I like

1120
01:09:42,910 --> 01:09:47,069
the idea of more electric vehicles actually because

1121
01:09:47,069 --> 01:09:49,470
we're in as you say, it's a small

1122
01:09:49,470 --> 01:09:52,965
borough, you don't go that far. And I

1123
01:09:52,965 --> 01:09:55,285
think one of the things that I've noticed

1124
01:09:55,685 --> 01:09:59,525
is how much idling is done with a

1125
01:09:59,525 --> 01:10:02,485
lot of the staff for no reason at

1126
01:10:02,485 --> 01:10:04,805
all. No reason at all. Ron's car is

1127
01:10:04,805 --> 01:10:10,210
out there right now believe. And, yeah, with

1128
01:10:10,210 --> 01:10:13,730
the electric, take your foot off the throttle,

1129
01:10:13,970 --> 01:10:16,370
you're not burning any gas. Absolutely. Yes. We

1130
01:10:16,370 --> 01:10:18,770
just took delivery of a a hybrid the

1131
01:10:18,770 --> 01:10:22,795
first one, the hybrid police SUV, right, the

1132
01:10:22,795 --> 01:10:24,395
interceptor. So we just took delivery of that

1133
01:10:24,395 --> 01:10:27,355
and that includes a engine shutdown. So if

1134
01:10:27,355 --> 01:10:29,514
it's sitting, the engine is off. Sometimes when

1135
01:10:29,514 --> 01:10:31,114
it's rotting, the engine will shut off and

1136
01:10:31,114 --> 01:10:33,114
you'll be on battery only. We currently have

1137
01:10:33,114 --> 01:10:36,750
right now five hybrid Fords that are run

1138
01:10:36,750 --> 01:10:40,030
by administration. And you will I wish the

1139
01:10:40,030 --> 01:10:41,949
chief was here because he was the best.

1140
01:10:42,190 --> 01:10:44,349
He would get he would go a month

1141
01:10:44,429 --> 01:10:47,150
without putting fuel in his car, because he

1142
01:10:47,150 --> 01:10:49,844
would charge it and go forward. So, yeah.

1143
01:10:49,925 --> 01:10:52,324
Yes, we do have we will have access

1144
01:10:52,324 --> 01:10:54,405
to that, to hybrid vehicles and electric vehicles.

1145
01:10:54,405 --> 01:10:56,485
We would I know it's we're probably getting

1146
01:10:56,485 --> 01:10:57,764
too much down on the weeds here, but

1147
01:10:57,764 --> 01:11:00,164
we would need more charging stations, I would

1148
01:11:00,164 --> 01:11:03,364
imagine. It depends on it would depend on

1149
01:11:03,364 --> 01:11:06,060
what vehicles we're using. For parking authority, probably

1150
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:08,219
we would have to get more charging stations.

1151
01:11:08,219 --> 01:11:10,380
Right now, currently have two up top and

1152
01:11:10,380 --> 01:11:14,139
two down the bottom, over here at 401.

1153
01:11:14,300 --> 01:11:15,820
And so, yeah, we would need more charging

1154
01:11:15,820 --> 01:11:18,459
stations or we could just go hybrid vehicles.

1155
01:11:18,460 --> 01:11:21,395
Hybrid vehicles will give you a greater range

1156
01:11:21,395 --> 01:11:24,035
also. Because like I said before, because Borough

1157
01:11:24,035 --> 01:11:25,875
Westchester is so small, a lot of times

1158
01:11:25,875 --> 01:11:27,555
you could just run on straight electricity and

1159
01:11:27,555 --> 01:11:32,995
without using gasoline. Thank you. Any other questions

1160
01:11:32,995 --> 01:11:35,420
from council? I had a couple of questions.

1161
01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:37,820
You talked about how we're, are we exclusively

1162
01:11:37,820 --> 01:11:41,340
for Ford right now? When I first got

1163
01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:46,395
here, we exclusively run Ford vehicles. Initially, they

1164
01:11:46,395 --> 01:11:49,035
said it was because we wanted one makeup

1165
01:11:49,035 --> 01:11:51,195
car or one type of car. So, the

1166
01:11:51,195 --> 01:11:53,515
parts, getting the parts for the vehicle. If

1167
01:11:53,515 --> 01:11:55,035
we go with enterprise, then we don't have

1168
01:11:55,035 --> 01:11:56,875
to worry about that because they would be

1169
01:11:56,875 --> 01:11:58,475
in charge of the maintenance. So, we wouldn't

1170
01:11:58,475 --> 01:11:59,435
have to worry about it. We could get

1171
01:11:59,435 --> 01:12:01,570
a different variety of vehicle. But right now,

1172
01:12:01,570 --> 01:12:04,130
we primarily run, if you walk around, we

1173
01:12:04,130 --> 01:12:06,530
have Ford everything. So, we wouldn't have to

1174
01:12:06,530 --> 01:12:10,610
do that. And because, everybody knows different manufacturers

1175
01:12:10,610 --> 01:12:13,330
give you different things. So, where Ford might

1176
01:12:13,330 --> 01:12:15,330
do a hybrid, maybe Toyota does it better.

1177
01:12:15,730 --> 01:12:17,945
Okay, so something like that, yes. I love

1178
01:12:17,945 --> 01:12:23,945
my Prius. Me And thank you for the

1179
01:12:23,945 --> 01:12:27,945
numbers. I'm assuming this is the spreadsheet. Yes,

1180
01:12:27,945 --> 01:12:30,199
that is it, yes. Yeah. It's pretty big.

1181
01:12:30,199 --> 01:12:32,840
That was three days. Yeah, I can imagine.

1182
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:35,559
I noticed there was a lot on here,

1183
01:12:35,719 --> 01:12:39,960
and I was curious with the coverage from

1184
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,360
enterprise, like how much of this would be

1185
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,054
covered by that $58 a month? Is that

1186
01:12:46,135 --> 01:12:49,574
what we're trying to? Yeah, that's the right

1187
01:12:49,574 --> 01:12:52,135
there is parts and labor for everything that

1188
01:12:52,135 --> 01:12:55,094
we have in the borough right now. That

1189
01:12:55,094 --> 01:12:56,534
for the last six months when I was

1190
01:12:56,534 --> 01:12:58,530
here, that's everything that you have, every invoice

1191
01:12:58,530 --> 01:13:00,290
that came across my desk, that's what you

1192
01:13:00,290 --> 01:13:02,690
have in front of you. We would eliminate,

1193
01:13:03,650 --> 01:13:05,090
well, I can tell you initially just for

1194
01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:07,650
the eight vehicles right now, in the last

1195
01:13:07,650 --> 01:13:10,530
six months, we spent about $5,000 on just

1196
01:13:10,530 --> 01:13:12,725
the eight vehicles that we wanna replace. So

1197
01:13:12,725 --> 01:13:14,965
that would increase, because that was just an

1198
01:13:14,965 --> 01:13:16,805
initial eight, we would do more than that

1199
01:13:16,805 --> 01:13:18,485
over the long term. But yeah, that was

1200
01:13:18,485 --> 01:13:21,765
just initially. So, a lot of that, unfortunately

1201
01:13:21,765 --> 01:13:24,565
is for our heavy trucks also, and our

1202
01:13:24,565 --> 01:13:27,150
heavy trucks, they take a lot. So, and

1203
01:13:27,150 --> 01:13:29,950
then also enterprise would allow us to just

1204
01:13:29,950 --> 01:13:32,270
concentrate on heavy trucks and not split between

1205
01:13:32,270 --> 01:13:35,070
the two. And on this list, I noticed

1206
01:13:35,070 --> 01:13:38,590
there was like fire department equipment from fire

1207
01:13:38,590 --> 01:13:40,110
line and There's nothing you can do about

1208
01:13:40,110 --> 01:13:41,865
the fire department. Right. If you want to

1209
01:13:41,865 --> 01:13:44,185
know honestly, fire department, your police department are

1210
01:13:44,185 --> 01:13:46,265
going to be the biggest expenses. The fire

1211
01:13:46,265 --> 01:13:48,825
trucks are just, they're just big and they

1212
01:13:48,825 --> 01:13:51,545
cost unfortunately. And the parts for fire trucks

1213
01:13:51,545 --> 01:13:54,185
are just expensive because they're a specialty item.

1214
01:13:54,185 --> 01:13:56,470
Right. So, they're going to be expensive. Absolutely.

1215
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:57,989
So, it's a lot of the fire trucks.

1216
01:13:57,990 --> 01:14:00,390
And unfortunately, they don't enterprise doesn't rent fire

1217
01:14:00,390 --> 01:14:03,830
don't need those. But as the fire trucks

1218
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:06,390
get older, as in any vehicle, the cost

1219
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:08,230
is going to go up for maintenance. Right.

1220
01:14:08,230 --> 01:14:13,185
Yes. Okay. And I was actually blown away

1221
01:14:13,185 --> 01:14:14,385
with the amount of stuff that was in

1222
01:14:14,385 --> 01:14:17,745
here. So, with like, I'm looking at a

1223
01:14:17,745 --> 01:14:20,385
caliber collision, that was a pretty big part

1224
01:14:20,385 --> 01:14:22,945
of the '91. Well, unfortunately, accidents do happen,

1225
01:14:22,945 --> 01:14:25,250
so, Yeah, that kind of costs a lot.

1226
01:14:25,250 --> 01:14:28,450
Right. Yes. Is enterprise going to cover that?

1227
01:14:28,450 --> 01:14:31,330
That's still under our insurance. Okay. Yeah, we

1228
01:14:31,330 --> 01:14:33,810
still cover that, yes. And there's like car

1229
01:14:33,810 --> 01:14:37,410
washes, Verizon GPS, towing, I'm all assuming would

1230
01:14:37,410 --> 01:14:40,474
not fall under enterprise as well. No, those

1231
01:14:40,474 --> 01:14:41,994
are just basic things that we will still

1232
01:14:41,994 --> 01:14:44,875
cover. Okay. Towing and car wash. So, a

1233
01:14:44,875 --> 01:14:47,275
lot of the 91,000 every six months will

1234
01:14:47,275 --> 01:14:51,034
still be responsible for under enterprise. But here's

1235
01:14:51,034 --> 01:14:52,875
the thing, you wouldn't be responsible because the

1236
01:14:52,875 --> 01:14:54,395
cars are new and they wouldn't need that

1237
01:14:54,395 --> 01:14:57,740
much. Much. So that will fall down. Not

1238
01:14:57,740 --> 01:14:59,180
that it won't, I don't think you'll get

1239
01:14:59,180 --> 01:15:01,180
a, we only talk at eight initial vehicles.

1240
01:15:01,180 --> 01:15:03,260
So you won't get a big chunk off

1241
01:15:03,260 --> 01:15:05,100
the but a lot of that will go

1242
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:07,565
down because we won't have to, because they're

1243
01:15:07,565 --> 01:15:09,165
newer cars and you just got the maintenance

1244
01:15:09,165 --> 01:15:12,925
on newer cars. It's not that extensive. Right.

1245
01:15:23,140 --> 01:16:54,539
Yes. We're not leasing those. No. Likes to

1246
01:16:54,539 --> 01:16:56,699
say this, but in fewer mechanics, potentially, you

1247
01:16:56,699 --> 01:17:29,870
would need. Something to add to that too,

1248
01:17:29,870 --> 01:17:32,195
something that we've been noticing with especially in

1249
01:17:32,195 --> 01:17:34,434
the municipal space, is as vehicles are getting

1250
01:17:34,434 --> 01:17:37,395
newer, they're getting much more sophisticated. So, far

1251
01:17:37,395 --> 01:17:39,954
as diagnostic equipment and the investment that's required

1252
01:17:39,954 --> 01:17:41,155
to have that in house for some of

1253
01:17:41,155 --> 01:17:43,315
the light duty fleet, it's a large expenditure

1254
01:17:43,315 --> 01:17:45,395
in order to invest in that to keep

1255
01:17:45,395 --> 01:17:47,650
it in house. So, a lot of folks

1256
01:17:47,650 --> 01:17:50,210
are pushing their light duty fleet out where

1257
01:17:50,210 --> 01:17:53,570
the more custom equipment should stay in. The

1258
01:17:53,810 --> 01:17:56,530
cost of the equipment that communicates with the

1259
01:17:56,530 --> 01:17:59,890
cars. Absolutely. Yes. Yes. Diagnostics. Yes. Diagnostic equipment

1260
01:17:59,890 --> 01:18:02,565
can cost anywhere from $2,500 10 thousand dollars

1261
01:18:02,565 --> 01:18:04,085
depending on the vehicle and how much you

1262
01:18:04,085 --> 01:18:06,804
need. So, it can get pretty pricey. Absolutely.

1263
01:18:06,805 --> 01:18:13,125
I guess my biggest concern right now is

1264
01:18:14,165 --> 01:18:16,245
we're not going to see what happens for

1265
01:18:16,245 --> 01:18:19,140
another two or three years. And I'm worried

1266
01:18:19,140 --> 01:18:22,340
if well, first, let me ask, how many

1267
01:18:22,340 --> 01:18:24,740
cars are we planning on transit? If everything

1268
01:18:24,740 --> 01:18:26,420
goes great, how many cars are we going

1269
01:18:26,420 --> 01:18:29,140
to transition to the lease model? Excluding our

1270
01:18:29,140 --> 01:18:32,215
large equipment, including your general fleet and police

1271
01:18:32,215 --> 01:18:34,775
fleet, you have a total of 76 vehicles,

1272
01:18:34,775 --> 01:18:38,375
according to my most recent. So, how long

1273
01:18:38,375 --> 01:18:39,815
do you expect that to take if we

1274
01:18:39,815 --> 01:18:42,614
start with eight now, assuming everything is great?

1275
01:18:42,775 --> 01:18:44,535
We're going start with eight now, but again,

1276
01:18:44,535 --> 01:18:45,890
we had talked about the maintenance and the

1277
01:18:45,890 --> 01:18:47,330
fuel tracking. So, we're going to use that

1278
01:18:47,330 --> 01:18:51,250
information to start to develop a proactive fleet

1279
01:18:51,250 --> 01:18:53,810
replacement plan, because if we start to see

1280
01:18:53,970 --> 01:18:55,970
that there are some outliers that need to

1281
01:18:55,970 --> 01:18:57,730
be taken care of immediately, then we're going

1282
01:18:57,730 --> 01:18:59,675
to be able to attack that on our

1283
01:18:59,675 --> 01:19:01,755
side, provide you with a sound recommendation with

1284
01:19:01,755 --> 01:19:03,515
all the numbers to back it up. So,

1285
01:19:03,515 --> 01:19:05,515
it might be eight this year, it might

1286
01:19:05,515 --> 01:19:08,475
be 10 the following year. Right. Through attrition,

1287
01:19:08,475 --> 01:19:09,835
it's going to take time. It's going to

1288
01:19:09,835 --> 01:19:12,235
need to make financial and operational sense. But

1289
01:19:12,235 --> 01:19:13,675
that's where what I do for a living

1290
01:19:13,675 --> 01:19:15,100
is I meet with clients to make sure

1291
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:18,780
that we're monitoring everything, it makes sense, and

1292
01:19:18,780 --> 01:19:21,500
it's sound logic as far as proceeding to

1293
01:19:21,500 --> 01:19:24,620
move forward. What happens in like five years,

1294
01:19:25,180 --> 01:19:26,860
if we see that it's not really saving

1295
01:19:26,860 --> 01:19:28,974
us any money, we decide we don't want

1296
01:19:28,974 --> 01:19:30,255
to be part of it. I get we're

1297
01:19:30,255 --> 01:19:33,375
not locked in. I just I'm worried how

1298
01:19:33,375 --> 01:19:35,215
much money we have in these vehicles. Like,

1299
01:19:35,215 --> 01:19:37,614
what happens to the cars we're currently leasing

1300
01:19:37,614 --> 01:19:39,854
if we decide it's not working? Yeah, well,

1301
01:19:39,855 --> 01:19:41,679
at that point, you would have paid the

1302
01:19:41,679 --> 01:19:43,679
vehicle down and that vehicle would have equity

1303
01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:44,880
in it. So, really, you would have a

1304
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,719
couple of options. If you wanted an exit

1305
01:19:46,719 --> 01:19:48,559
strategy, you would either turn that vehicle into

1306
01:19:48,559 --> 01:19:50,079
us or we would sell it for you.

1307
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:51,920
Anything that we sell it for in excess

1308
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,295
of what's owed on it comes back to

1309
01:19:53,295 --> 01:19:55,375
the borough. Or, you can continue to run

1310
01:19:55,375 --> 01:19:56,735
it down until it's paid to zero and

1311
01:19:56,735 --> 01:19:58,494
take title of it, and it's your vehicle.

1312
01:19:59,375 --> 01:20:01,054
Or, if you decide that you want to

1313
01:20:01,054 --> 01:20:03,135
replace the vehicle, you can replace it with

1314
01:20:03,135 --> 01:20:04,735
us and roll the gains into a new

1315
01:20:04,735 --> 01:20:06,760
one. So, you really have those three options.

1316
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,880
But five years in, what you're going to

1317
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:10,920
start to see is you're going to be

1318
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,920
getting out of newer vehicles and you're going

1319
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,600
to start to see much higher proceeds from

1320
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,040
the sale of those vehicles that's going to

1321
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,000
offset your fleet budget moving forward. That's going

1322
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,120
be a big piece of the pie that

1323
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,675
we're missing today, so the savings is going

1324
01:20:21,675 --> 01:20:23,755
to be sustainable long term. And then, an

1325
01:20:23,755 --> 01:20:26,635
exit strategy will be an upfront cost for

1326
01:20:26,635 --> 01:20:29,115
us. An exit I'm sorry. Say that If

1327
01:20:29,115 --> 01:20:31,195
we were to pursue an exit strategy, there

1328
01:20:31,195 --> 01:20:33,595
would be, I'd imagine, a sizable upfront cost

1329
01:20:33,595 --> 01:20:36,870
for that? Cost? No. No. Not like a

1330
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:38,469
fee or anything like that, but for us

1331
01:20:38,469 --> 01:20:42,469
to be able to operate with vehicles because

1332
01:20:43,429 --> 01:20:45,910
Well, if you are five years in and

1333
01:20:45,910 --> 01:20:47,429
you have all of these vehicles that are

1334
01:20:47,429 --> 01:20:49,510
at different points within their term, we're going

1335
01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:51,195
to make sure that it makes sense to

1336
01:20:51,195 --> 01:20:53,755
either extend it, run it down to zero

1337
01:20:53,755 --> 01:20:55,915
and take title, or you could pay it

1338
01:20:55,915 --> 01:20:58,395
off, take title, or you could turn it

1339
01:20:58,395 --> 01:21:00,315
in and take the proceeds. And then, you

1340
01:21:00,315 --> 01:21:01,675
just go off and you buy vehicles the

1341
01:21:01,675 --> 01:21:03,515
way you normally would. Right. Okay. And that's

1342
01:21:03,515 --> 01:21:06,710
a sixty month agreement as of now? Determined

1343
01:21:06,710 --> 01:21:08,710
that sixty months would make the most sense

1344
01:21:08,710 --> 01:21:11,829
given your current mileage application, yes. Sure. Okay.

1345
01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:16,869
For municipal clients who you personally work with?

1346
01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:23,485
In Pennsylvania or in general? Okay. In Pennsylvania,

1347
01:21:23,485 --> 01:21:25,405
I work with the County Of Chester. So,

1348
01:21:25,405 --> 01:21:28,205
I handle the entire 300 vehicles that they

1349
01:21:28,205 --> 01:21:30,205
have under their umbrella, whether that's the sheriffs,

1350
01:21:30,205 --> 01:21:33,165
the detectives, the public works, adult probation, etcetera.

1351
01:21:33,165 --> 01:21:34,445
It's kind of like they're all a bunch

1352
01:21:34,445 --> 01:21:37,910
of mini ones. But also, work with Camden

1353
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:39,910
County Prosecutor's Office. I work with a whole

1354
01:21:39,910 --> 01:21:41,350
bunch of townships that are out in New

1355
01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:45,989
Jersey, Woolwich Township, Logan Township, Borough of Lindenwald.

1356
01:21:46,710 --> 01:21:48,950
We're actually in conversations now with Borough Of

1357
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:51,495
Pine Hill and Borough Of Berlin. The word's

1358
01:21:51,495 --> 01:21:53,975
starting to travel that because there's always going

1359
01:21:53,975 --> 01:21:56,055
to be a limit in the budget, and

1360
01:21:56,055 --> 01:21:57,495
there's always going to be a need for

1361
01:21:57,495 --> 01:22:00,055
vehicles, that leasing's going to make more sense

1362
01:22:00,055 --> 01:22:02,375
in order to replace more with less cash

1363
01:22:02,375 --> 01:22:04,375
out. Have you ever had one of your

1364
01:22:04,695 --> 01:22:08,460
municipal clients cancel one of these types of

1365
01:22:08,460 --> 01:22:16,620
contracts? I have not. I have a comment.

1366
01:22:16,620 --> 01:22:20,540
I've heard the police fleet referenced several times

1367
01:22:20,540 --> 01:22:22,855
here this evening, and I hear for the

1368
01:22:22,855 --> 01:22:25,975
record that as the police department has agreed

1369
01:22:25,975 --> 01:22:28,695
with mister Perrone, two things, that there will

1370
01:22:28,695 --> 01:22:31,574
be no police vehicles subject to this agreement

1371
01:22:31,655 --> 01:22:34,215
at this time. Okay. And there will be

1372
01:22:34,215 --> 01:22:37,335
no police vehicles subject to the enterprise maintenance

1373
01:22:37,335 --> 01:22:40,900
packet. We have not had sufficient discussion about

1374
01:22:40,900 --> 01:22:43,699
how this could work with our specialized cars.

1375
01:22:44,100 --> 01:23:08,909
I agree. Susans meaning the detective's cars? Is

1376
01:23:08,909 --> 01:23:17,070
that your understanding, lieutenants? About a month ago,

1377
01:23:17,070 --> 01:23:19,295
we had a discussion in this very room

1378
01:23:19,295 --> 01:23:20,895
about this and we were told the police

1379
01:23:20,895 --> 01:23:23,614
vehicles would be off the table for right

1380
01:23:23,614 --> 01:23:27,534
now. We're open to having discussions about detective

1381
01:23:27,534 --> 01:23:32,094
vehicles and administrative vehicles. We feel strongly that

1382
01:23:32,094 --> 01:23:35,054
the police fleet itself, the marked police vehicles,

1383
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,000
are not going to be cost effective for

1384
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,720
a lease style program. We're very willing to

1385
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,280
sit down and talk about the administrative fleet

1386
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,240
and the detective fleet, which I believe would

1387
01:23:47,475 --> 01:23:51,075
come up to about eight vehicles. We love

1388
01:23:51,075 --> 01:23:52,995
the idea, but that's going to take some

1389
01:23:52,995 --> 01:23:57,315
time to prepare, Chief Bond's, data that he

1390
01:23:57,315 --> 01:23:58,995
had collected because at the time a year

1391
01:23:58,995 --> 01:24:01,315
ago, it did not make sense for the

1392
01:24:01,315 --> 01:24:04,290
police department. Myself and Lieutenant Deegan are more

1393
01:24:04,290 --> 01:24:06,130
than willing to sit down back at the

1394
01:24:06,130 --> 01:24:08,850
table and open this discussion again. We think

1395
01:24:08,850 --> 01:24:11,170
it's worthwhile, but we've had no time to

1396
01:24:11,170 --> 01:24:14,690
prepare for There's definitely some unique considerations, even

1397
01:24:14,690 --> 01:24:19,195
with the non patrol we've talked about. Yes.

1398
01:24:19,195 --> 01:24:23,034
Yes. And so, I would ask everyone and

1399
01:24:23,034 --> 01:24:25,195
I would ask counsel to be sure that

1400
01:24:25,755 --> 01:24:28,235
vote this evening that you exclude all police

1401
01:24:28,235 --> 01:24:32,800
vehicles from this agreement and from the maintenance

1402
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,800
package until and unless we can sit down

1403
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,360
with the police department and really work through

1404
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:49,594
this together. No. No. And I don't think

1405
01:24:49,594 --> 01:24:52,795
we had the eight or 10, whatever you

1406
01:24:52,795 --> 01:24:54,235
guys were playing on this year. I don't

1407
01:24:54,235 --> 01:24:55,594
think there were any police vehicles in there

1408
01:24:55,594 --> 01:24:59,859
except the one detectives. Right, it was one

1409
01:24:59,940 --> 01:25:02,500
It was one detective. Detective, one year 20

1410
01:25:02,500 --> 01:25:05,219
years old. One year old Crown Victoria that

1411
01:25:05,219 --> 01:25:07,139
was put on the list. But that's a

1412
01:25:07,139 --> 01:25:10,715
very old car that's, you know. To leave

1413
01:25:10,715 --> 01:25:12,875
it anyway, right? Yeah, I still like to

1414
01:25:12,875 --> 01:25:15,115
not have it in here until we can

1415
01:25:15,115 --> 01:25:18,075
talk and be sure that we're all comfortable

1416
01:25:18,075 --> 01:25:20,235
and that the needs of the department are

1417
01:25:20,235 --> 01:25:23,195
met. That hasn't happened, and that makes me

1418
01:25:23,195 --> 01:25:27,840
a little uncomfortable. I don't think anyone's disagreeing

1419
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,719
on principle, but my question is more directly

1420
01:25:30,719 --> 01:25:34,640
to take out what's not in, right? So

1421
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,960
if your request is to exclude those cars

1422
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,775
from contract, well, they're not We can always

1423
01:25:39,775 --> 01:25:41,535
add them in next year after we have

1424
01:25:41,535 --> 01:25:42,815
time. So my point is they're not in

1425
01:25:42,815 --> 01:25:45,695
the contract now. So we don't That's not

1426
01:25:45,695 --> 01:25:47,775
true. I don't see any language in here

1427
01:25:47,775 --> 01:25:52,370
excluding them. There's also no language including them.

1428
01:25:52,930 --> 01:25:57,490
So I don't contract requires us to replace

1429
01:25:57,490 --> 01:26:00,770
any VA calls. I mean, we could sign

1430
01:26:00,770 --> 01:26:03,409
the contract and never call you back, right?

1431
01:26:03,570 --> 01:26:07,055
Yes. It would be a waste of all

1432
01:26:07,055 --> 01:26:10,735
of our time. But we could do that.

1433
01:26:10,735 --> 01:26:14,015
So like, to put into the contract that

1434
01:26:14,015 --> 01:26:28,420
we won't do these vehicles I think that's

1435
01:26:28,420 --> 01:26:33,860
fine. Don't candidly, I don't Maybe to get

1436
01:26:33,860 --> 01:26:36,365
to where Diane wants to get to, is

1437
01:26:36,365 --> 01:26:39,565
every year during budget season, we're going to

1438
01:26:39,565 --> 01:26:43,965
allocate funds for leasing. When we do that,

1439
01:26:43,965 --> 01:26:46,605
we say, okay, here's next year's game plan

1440
01:26:46,605 --> 01:26:49,405
for vehicles, okay, counsel take a look at

1441
01:26:49,405 --> 01:26:53,219
it. Nobody up here, I think, is going

1442
01:26:53,219 --> 01:26:59,619
to make No, I wanted it to be

1443
01:26:59,619 --> 01:27:04,260
clear that this is a really important discussion

1444
01:27:04,260 --> 01:27:06,795
that needs to happen with the police department

1445
01:27:06,795 --> 01:27:11,995
regarding all police vehicles. And, you know, before

1446
01:27:11,995 --> 01:27:14,155
we move forward, because I heard reference to

1447
01:27:14,155 --> 01:27:18,330
police vehicles several times this to be really

1448
01:27:18,330 --> 01:27:20,410
clear that we have that discussion, and we

1449
01:27:20,410 --> 01:27:23,930
have that agreement from the department before moving

1450
01:27:23,930 --> 01:27:26,730
forward with transitioning any of the police vehicles.

1451
01:27:26,970 --> 01:27:29,130
That's all I'm saying. I agree with Mr.

1452
01:27:29,130 --> 01:27:33,865
Gale's position. Yeah. Yeah. Can I just say

1453
01:27:33,865 --> 01:27:35,945
something? My understanding is that everyone agrees to

1454
01:27:35,945 --> 01:27:40,025
that currently. With respect to those, was it

1455
01:27:40,025 --> 01:27:43,865
eight cars? Eight. We'll figure that out later.

1456
01:27:43,865 --> 01:27:46,905
They're not required to be included in the

1457
01:27:46,905 --> 01:27:51,150
contract at We signed this tomorrow. We don't

1458
01:27:51,150 --> 01:28:00,030
have to. Could I? Should I call for

1459
01:28:00,030 --> 01:28:03,344
a motion? Do I have Oh, I'm sorry,

1460
01:28:03,344 --> 01:28:05,585
Mr. Scott. Didn't know you had a question.

1461
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:22,800
Here it is. Where is the language concerning

1462
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:35,745
the Could I clarify just the contract? Leash

1463
01:28:35,745 --> 01:28:41,265
of vehicles. How are you? The contract, just

1464
01:28:41,265 --> 01:28:43,745
to clarify, the contract is not tied to

1465
01:28:44,250 --> 01:28:48,089
specific vehicles, numbers of vehicles, quantity of vehicles.

1466
01:28:48,489 --> 01:28:52,090
The contract applies to whatever vehicles ultimately the

1467
01:28:52,090 --> 01:28:55,369
borough decides to put on a lease. If

1468
01:28:55,369 --> 01:28:58,435
that is one vehicle, then all the terms

1469
01:28:58,435 --> 01:29:01,235
and agreements would apply to that with the

1470
01:29:01,235 --> 01:29:07,795
years. The verbiage in the contract will relate

1471
01:29:07,795 --> 01:29:10,195
back to a quote in a vehicle schedule,

1472
01:29:10,195 --> 01:29:14,020
which is vehicle specific. So it's an overriding

1473
01:29:14,020 --> 01:29:17,300
general agreement that applies individually to the different

1474
01:29:17,300 --> 01:29:33,065
vehicles. There's there's no language stating that you

1475
01:29:33,065 --> 01:29:35,785
have to send us anything. If you do

1476
01:29:35,785 --> 01:29:39,420
decide to execute and order a vehicle, then

1477
01:29:39,420 --> 01:29:43,100
this contract applies to that specific vehicle. So

1478
01:29:43,100 --> 01:29:45,099
if you exclude, which I would agree with,

1479
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:49,420
if the police vehicles haven't been fully vetted,

1480
01:29:49,420 --> 01:29:51,580
then certainly due diligence, we can help you.

1481
01:29:51,895 --> 01:29:54,614
And ultimately, if you get comfortable with that,

1482
01:29:54,855 --> 01:29:57,975
fantastic. If it doesn't make sense, fantastic for

1483
01:29:57,975 --> 01:30:12,429
you. Yes. If you lease a vehicle, go

1484
01:30:12,510 --> 01:30:15,230
over the payment schedules that they have to

1485
01:30:15,230 --> 01:30:18,510
remain insured, the use of the vehicles, those

1486
01:30:18,510 --> 01:30:21,225
types of things. It's only those vehicles which

1487
01:30:21,225 --> 01:30:37,000
we request? Yes. Framework under which Yes. Jason,

1488
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:45,000
our fleet manager, easiest thing to do is

1489
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,600
during the budget season, we come in and

1490
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:52,775
say, here's money allocated for leasing, and Burke

1491
01:30:52,775 --> 01:30:57,015
Council can approve that. Number of vehicles go

1492
01:30:57,015 --> 01:30:58,535
up and down every year based on the

1493
01:30:58,535 --> 01:31:07,140
age of the vehicle. This year, if we're

1494
01:31:07,140 --> 01:31:08,740
going to choose any vehicles to do this

1495
01:31:08,740 --> 01:31:13,780
to before budget 2021, ask that we bring

1496
01:31:13,780 --> 01:31:16,660
that through. We got lots of vehicles in

1497
01:31:16,660 --> 01:31:18,180
here that we do. Yeah. I I would

1498
01:31:18,180 --> 01:31:23,555
strongly if because I really don't think we

1499
01:31:23,555 --> 01:31:26,755
want that thing. Sell it to somebody so

1500
01:31:26,755 --> 01:31:28,275
that every time I drive past it I

1501
01:31:28,275 --> 01:31:29,715
think it's a police officer and I stop

1502
01:31:29,715 --> 01:31:32,115
at this point. And we may be to

1503
01:31:32,170 --> 01:31:33,530
may be able to replace that with another

1504
01:31:33,530 --> 01:31:36,570
vehicle, you know, from another department, but we

1505
01:31:36,570 --> 01:31:51,175
surely want to get. And if Right. Under

1506
01:31:51,175 --> 01:32:01,979
this rubric, sounds like that would be Yes,

1507
01:32:10,060 --> 01:32:12,139
I agree. And we can work that out

1508
01:32:12,139 --> 01:32:16,375
together and ensure that the budget that we

1509
01:32:16,375 --> 01:32:25,175
present to council is set. Sounds good. Thank

1510
01:32:25,175 --> 01:32:29,870
you. Mr. Allen has a couple moments. Oh,

1511
01:32:29,870 --> 01:32:34,350
you woke up. I took a brief intermission.

1512
01:32:34,750 --> 01:32:40,190
I'll be quick. I was just curious where

1513
01:32:41,375 --> 01:32:43,695
so for the numbers that were calculated based

1514
01:32:43,695 --> 01:32:45,614
on what we do now, there were three

1515
01:32:45,614 --> 01:32:47,535
numbers. I wasn't sure where they came from.

1516
01:32:47,535 --> 01:32:51,695
The one was that we budget $1,200 a

1517
01:32:51,695 --> 01:32:55,519
year for preventative maintenance, the downtime from maintenance

1518
01:32:55,519 --> 01:32:58,320
costs, the administrative costs. I was wondering where

1519
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:02,000
those numbers came from? This is I think

1520
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,639
that's our existing vehicles. I think we buy

1521
01:33:04,639 --> 01:33:11,785
extended warranty, but not the state. We dollars

1522
01:33:11,785 --> 01:33:15,385
3,600 for a three year or five year.

1523
01:33:15,545 --> 01:33:17,385
Yeah, basically all our vehicles come with extended,

1524
01:33:17,385 --> 01:33:19,305
we buy all our vehicles from CoStar's with

1525
01:33:19,305 --> 01:33:23,580
extended warranties. So, we outsource at that point,

1526
01:33:23,660 --> 01:33:25,660
all our vehicles have extended warranties from the

1527
01:33:25,660 --> 01:33:28,300
parking to all the way up to our

1528
01:33:28,300 --> 01:33:29,820
trash trucks. So, every vehicle that we buy

1529
01:33:29,820 --> 01:33:34,140
gets an extended warranty. That's the $1,200 Okay,

1530
01:33:34,705 --> 01:33:36,385
Sure. And then, I was just wondering about

1531
01:33:36,385 --> 01:33:39,665
the administrative costs, what that was in reference

1532
01:33:39,665 --> 01:33:42,945
to. So, in addition to the warranties, there

1533
01:33:42,945 --> 01:33:45,425
was also the cost of your parts here

1534
01:33:45,425 --> 01:33:47,985
today. We excluded the cost of labor. Obviously,

1535
01:33:47,985 --> 01:33:49,665
there would still be a need for labor,

1536
01:33:49,745 --> 01:33:51,460
but just the cost of parts, that in

1537
01:33:51,460 --> 01:33:54,020
tandem with the warranty, we said, okay, let's

1538
01:33:54,020 --> 01:33:57,619
average that out over the fleet. About $100

1539
01:33:57,619 --> 01:33:58,820
a month is where we came out to

1540
01:33:58,820 --> 01:34:01,860
be. The administrative, we're going be taking a

1541
01:34:01,860 --> 01:34:04,005
lot of the tracking off of your plate.

1542
01:34:04,005 --> 01:34:05,525
So, we wanted to put a dollar figure

1543
01:34:05,525 --> 01:34:07,525
to say how much of what you're doing

1544
01:34:07,525 --> 01:34:11,765
today requires payroll that we can take that

1545
01:34:11,765 --> 01:34:14,085
off of your plate. So, that's where that

1546
01:34:14,085 --> 01:34:16,540
number came from. It was more exercise that

1547
01:34:16,540 --> 01:34:18,780
we ran to see, well, we're acting as

1548
01:34:18,780 --> 01:34:21,820
your fleet management department. What are some things

1549
01:34:21,820 --> 01:34:23,020
that you don't need to worry about from

1550
01:34:23,020 --> 01:34:26,060
an administrative standpoint? And then, the downtime for

1551
01:34:26,060 --> 01:34:29,514
maintenance, that's it's lower in the lease arrangement

1552
01:34:29,514 --> 01:34:31,675
than ours. I'm assuming that's because the turnaround

1553
01:34:31,675 --> 01:34:34,635
time is faster for repair? Yes. Okay. That

1554
01:34:34,635 --> 01:34:38,155
makes sense. And then, I heard a number.

1555
01:34:38,155 --> 01:34:39,594
I can't remember exactly what it was for

1556
01:34:39,594 --> 01:34:41,994
our total savings for ten years, like what

1557
01:34:41,994 --> 01:34:44,860
that was projected to be? It's projected to

1558
01:34:44,860 --> 01:34:47,820
be roughly $39,000 a year over the course

1559
01:34:47,820 --> 01:34:49,500
of the next ten years on average. So,

1560
01:34:49,500 --> 01:34:52,620
we came to about 3 and $90,000 over

1561
01:34:52,620 --> 01:34:54,300
the course of ten years, which would be

1562
01:34:54,300 --> 01:34:56,940
19.5% from what you're paying today, based off

1563
01:34:56,940 --> 01:34:59,894
of the numbers that we've looked at. Great.

1564
01:35:01,255 --> 01:36:01,335
Thank you. Else from anyone else? I guess

1565
01:36:01,335 --> 01:36:04,295
I was just worried about the percentage of

1566
01:36:04,295 --> 01:36:06,295
the budget, that this is actually going to

1567
01:36:06,295 --> 01:36:10,160
save. I just worry about the risk. I

1568
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:11,760
like to own the things that I have

1569
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,320
outright. And that's kind of where I'm coming

1570
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:18,800
from here. You own a home? Do you

1571
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,640
own a home, or do you rent? I

1572
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,905
rent. I'm doing my best though. I'm really

1573
01:36:23,905 --> 01:36:26,865
trying. It's hard here. It's so hard. You

1574
01:36:26,865 --> 01:36:28,785
heard this I was going to say when

1575
01:36:29,025 --> 01:36:31,585
I rent, I also rent. I feel like

1576
01:36:31,585 --> 01:36:33,105
I have a little bit less risk because

1577
01:36:33,105 --> 01:36:36,929
I call my landlord, but it's analogy. Sorry.

1578
01:36:38,050 --> 01:36:39,170
I'd like to make a motion that we

1579
01:36:39,170 --> 01:36:42,449
enter in our agreement with Enterprise Leasing to

1580
01:36:44,130 --> 01:36:50,455
lease house works vehicles and small cars. To

1581
01:36:50,455 --> 01:37:00,455
approve the agreement. Second. Okay. Motion by Mr.

1582
01:37:00,455 --> 01:37:03,619
Flynn, second by Ms. Polk. Doctor. Polk, I

1583
01:37:03,619 --> 01:37:11,540
am sorry. Okay. Any more comments? Mr. Fallon?

1584
01:37:11,540 --> 01:37:16,015
No. Mr. Stefano? Yes. Mr. Flynn? Yes. Ms.

1585
01:37:16,015 --> 01:37:19,215
Polk? Yes. Mr. Bracelin? Yes. Mr. Scott? Aye.

1586
01:37:19,215 --> 01:37:21,775
Mr. Galley? Yes, the motion passes six to

1587
01:37:21,775 --> 01:37:25,535
one. Thank you guys very much. Appreciate all

1588
01:37:25,535 --> 01:37:29,150
your time. Thank you, Mr. Barnes. The next

1589
01:37:29,150 --> 01:37:30,989
item is to approve the job description of

1590
01:37:30,989 --> 01:37:34,190
the new assistant borough manager. We've been able,

1591
01:37:34,190 --> 01:37:38,429
I think, to get this job description distilled

1592
01:37:38,429 --> 01:37:42,325
down to one existing discussion point, which is

1593
01:37:42,325 --> 01:37:50,165
the inclusion of a preference that the assistant

1594
01:37:50,165 --> 01:37:53,765
borough manager either resides within 15 miles of

1595
01:37:53,765 --> 01:37:55,765
the borough or is willing to reside within

1596
01:37:55,765 --> 01:38:05,369
15 miles. Did everyone get a copy? I

1597
01:38:05,370 --> 01:38:07,850
emailed it to Mr. Scott, did you get

1598
01:38:07,850 --> 01:38:11,875
yours? I bought one. That's exactly what we

1599
01:38:11,875 --> 01:38:15,875
were looking for yesterday, so thank you. Sure.

1600
01:38:19,235 --> 01:38:23,579
Do we have any additional comments about this

1601
01:38:23,739 --> 01:38:32,860
aspect of the job description, or can't Don

1602
01:38:32,860 --> 01:38:35,260
has a comment. Oh, not like last night.

1603
01:38:37,255 --> 01:38:40,375
Just because I got such a bug last

1604
01:38:40,375 --> 01:38:46,454
night about this. I called 16 other municipalities

1605
01:38:46,454 --> 01:38:50,534
today, and none of them have residency requirements.

1606
01:38:50,534 --> 01:38:53,150
Actually, a couple of people told me that

1607
01:38:53,150 --> 01:38:55,150
they would not want to live where they

1608
01:38:55,150 --> 01:39:00,110
were working for security reasons. However, one place

1609
01:39:00,110 --> 01:39:04,670
does, Spring City, but they don't really enforce

1610
01:39:04,670 --> 01:39:08,035
it all that stringently. But I just mentioned

1611
01:39:08,035 --> 01:39:09,315
that because I spent an hour and a

1612
01:39:09,315 --> 01:39:11,795
half calling all those places, that's why. We're

1613
01:39:11,795 --> 01:39:13,795
always But otherwise, I don't have a problem

1614
01:39:13,795 --> 01:39:17,955
with the way this is worded. Is anybody

1615
01:39:17,955 --> 01:39:19,875
willing to make a motion? I make a

1616
01:39:19,875 --> 01:39:25,889
motion. The job description as written. As written.

1617
01:39:26,210 --> 01:39:29,170
Second. Motion by Mr. Flynn, seconded by Mr.

1618
01:39:29,170 --> 01:39:35,394
Bracelin. Mr. Swallow? Yes. Swallow? Yes. Yes. Yes.

1619
01:39:35,395 --> 01:39:40,034
Yes. Aye. Yes. The motion passes seven-zero. Thank

1620
01:39:40,034 --> 01:39:41,235
you very much for all of your hard

1621
01:39:41,235 --> 01:39:45,394
work. Thank you. Griffin, two more. I love.

1622
01:39:45,395 --> 01:39:47,395
The next item was asked to be put

1623
01:39:47,395 --> 01:39:51,480
on discussion by Mr. Scott, which is approval

1624
01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:57,000
of the PICO pole attachment agreement. Mr. Scott

1625
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,879
sent us all some pictures today of some

1626
01:40:00,119 --> 01:41:37,285
telephone poles. Well, if you want the GreenLake

1627
01:41:37,285 --> 01:41:39,365
GO and the traffic signals all to be

1628
01:41:39,365 --> 01:41:42,690
tied together, yes. We need the agreement for

1629
01:41:42,690 --> 01:41:46,370
the GreenLakeGo grant application and the work to

1630
01:41:46,370 --> 01:41:48,850
continue. For the sake of our product lines,

1631
01:41:48,850 --> 01:41:53,170
we've got to approve this, right? I mean,

1632
01:41:53,170 --> 01:41:56,290
I'll be more than happy to delve into

1633
01:41:56,290 --> 01:41:58,425
some of this spaghetti. It kind of would

1634
01:41:58,425 --> 01:42:00,025
look better with red sauce on it though,

1635
01:42:00,025 --> 01:42:07,224
I think. And I'm not 100% sure if

1636
01:42:07,864 --> 01:42:13,090
Verizon and these other carriers, if all under

1637
01:42:13,490 --> 01:42:18,530
the PUC? We got to find out. That's

1638
01:42:18,530 --> 01:42:21,570
the theory that I gave the answer to

1639
01:42:21,570 --> 01:42:23,650
everyone. Those wires you see up there, none

1640
01:42:23,650 --> 01:42:25,730
of them have hot power into them. They're

1641
01:42:25,730 --> 01:42:28,855
all cable. They're all AT and T, old

1642
01:42:28,855 --> 01:42:33,495
phone lines. They're booster boxes, and they're leftover

1643
01:42:33,495 --> 01:42:35,815
cable as you can see, you know, like

1644
01:42:35,815 --> 01:42:38,535
a ribbon. You can't get hurt from any

1645
01:42:38,535 --> 01:42:39,895
of them because I touch them all the

1646
01:42:39,895 --> 01:42:41,850
time because my roof is just next to

1647
01:42:41,850 --> 01:42:43,770
it. And I cut away as many as

1648
01:42:43,770 --> 01:42:47,210
I can. Oh yeah, I do. Yeah. And

1649
01:42:47,210 --> 01:42:49,770
then when the Comcast guy comes, I tell

1650
01:42:49,770 --> 01:42:52,010
him, I said, you know, run it underground.

1651
01:42:52,090 --> 01:42:53,505
A little giant at home if you want

1652
01:42:53,505 --> 01:42:55,344
to take care of this. Yeah, but that,

1653
01:42:56,065 --> 01:42:57,585
as I said to Mr. Perrone, I'm not

1654
01:42:57,585 --> 01:43:01,025
sure whether they're like the pipeline over in

1655
01:43:01,025 --> 01:43:04,304
West Ocean, whether they're protected under the PUC

1656
01:43:04,304 --> 01:43:08,650
regulations or the FCC, I don't know. Fine,

1657
01:43:08,650 --> 01:43:11,290
I'll take a look and see if we

1658
01:43:11,290 --> 01:43:13,850
can. Think what we're doing. Some clarification on

1659
01:43:13,850 --> 01:43:19,210
who is responsible. I mean, unfortunately, agree with

1660
01:43:19,210 --> 01:43:21,610
Bill, it does look rather horrific and it's

1661
01:43:21,610 --> 01:43:41,570
kind of everywhere, not just here. Yeah, definitely.

1662
01:43:43,250 --> 01:43:44,930
I think what we're talking about are two

1663
01:43:44,930 --> 01:43:48,370
different things, right? One is, can we do

1664
01:43:48,370 --> 01:43:50,505
anything to clean this up generally? The other

1665
01:43:50,505 --> 01:43:53,225
is, do we want to have an agreement

1666
01:43:53,225 --> 01:43:56,105
wherein PECO allows us to use their telephone

1667
01:43:56,105 --> 01:43:58,665
poles to run cables so that people can

1668
01:43:58,665 --> 01:44:02,585
get from my house to 202 more quickly?

1669
01:44:03,970 --> 01:44:06,210
I have a vested interest in. I move

1670
01:44:06,210 --> 01:44:11,970
the approval of she. Second. Second that. Motion

1671
01:44:11,970 --> 01:44:15,970
by Mr. Scott, second by Mr. Stefano. Mr.

1672
01:44:15,970 --> 01:44:20,454
Mellon? Mr. Stefano. Mr. Flynn. Yes. Ms. Polk.

1673
01:44:20,454 --> 01:44:23,574
Yes. Mr. Bracelin. Yes. Mr. Schiller. Aye. Mr.

1674
01:44:23,574 --> 01:44:26,054
Guehle. Yes. The motion passes seven zero. The

1675
01:44:26,054 --> 01:44:27,815
next item on the Before we go to

1676
01:44:27,815 --> 01:44:47,685
next item, can I Sure? So all I'm

1677
01:44:47,685 --> 01:44:51,125
suggesting is that mister Burham start the whole

1678
01:44:51,125 --> 01:44:56,485
world. And We'll actually be here next month.

1679
01:44:59,700 --> 01:45:03,860
Council next month, delivering a message about tearing

1680
01:45:03,860 --> 01:45:07,140
up the downtown again. So we'll have his

1681
01:45:07,140 --> 01:45:20,105
undivided attention. Seems like we can show him

1682
01:45:20,105 --> 01:45:27,840
the pictures next month. On to the approval

1683
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,719
of the revised Borough Of Westchester personnel policy.

1684
01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:33,920
We didn't much discuss this last night because

1685
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:35,679
it was asked to be placed on that.

1686
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:44,265
Do Do you have any comments or concerns?

1687
01:45:45,545 --> 01:45:48,905
I guess my two things I was worried

1688
01:45:48,905 --> 01:45:51,705
about was first, we were talking about eliminating

1689
01:45:51,705 --> 01:45:55,469
breaks for borough employees. I guess, is it

1690
01:45:55,469 --> 01:45:57,710
technically one before and after lunch? Is that

1691
01:45:57,710 --> 01:45:59,630
how it's structured? That's the way traditionally it's

1692
01:45:59,630 --> 01:46:01,710
been, yes. Yeah. It was two fifty minute

1693
01:46:01,710 --> 01:46:04,510
breaks and then, I was a little concerned

1694
01:46:04,510 --> 01:46:08,815
about the vacation policy update as well. Agree

1695
01:46:08,815 --> 01:46:11,934
over. Yes. Yes. What's your concern about it

1696
01:46:11,934 --> 01:46:17,775
specifically? I was wondering if it actually addressed

1697
01:46:17,775 --> 01:46:20,415
the issue that it was trying to solve,

1698
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:24,160
Cause it was too many people were saving

1699
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:25,760
their days and then who would want to

1700
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:27,840
take them at the same time? Is that

1701
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:29,680
That's a concern for quite a few of

1702
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:31,840
the departments. You have to understand that the

1703
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,280
people that are here have been here for

1704
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:35,585
a number of years, so the majority have

1705
01:46:35,824 --> 01:46:39,185
four, five, six weeks vacation. So in in

1706
01:46:39,185 --> 01:46:40,945
an effort to help that, if you take

1707
01:46:40,945 --> 01:46:43,745
forty hours over to the following year, if

1708
01:46:43,745 --> 01:46:45,745
you have to use it by March 31,

1709
01:46:45,745 --> 01:46:48,225
at least that's been used. They're already getting

1710
01:46:48,225 --> 01:46:50,869
another four, five, or six for that year,

1711
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:53,110
so that would add an additional week. So

1712
01:46:53,110 --> 01:46:54,630
if you can use it that week, at

1713
01:46:54,630 --> 01:46:58,389
least by March 31, that would help, you

1714
01:46:58,389 --> 01:47:00,310
know, in scheduling, because we have to make

1715
01:47:00,310 --> 01:47:04,105
sure, you know, departments are manned as they

1716
01:47:04,265 --> 01:47:07,785
need to be. So that was the reasoning

1717
01:47:07,785 --> 01:47:09,705
behind that. But that would be that doesn't

1718
01:47:09,705 --> 01:47:12,025
solve everything, but it certainly does help in

1719
01:47:12,025 --> 01:47:16,345
scheduling. Is there a process now for scheduling

1720
01:47:16,345 --> 01:47:20,349
vacations that is consistent among different departments or?

1721
01:47:20,590 --> 01:47:23,949
The department heads, the managers, directors schedule it,

1722
01:47:23,949 --> 01:47:26,429
you know, as they as they can, so

1723
01:47:26,429 --> 01:47:29,389
that the departments are adequately manned. But no,

1724
01:47:29,389 --> 01:47:31,869
there's not one consistent way to do it

1725
01:47:32,030 --> 01:47:34,985
across all departments. But we leave that to

1726
01:47:34,985 --> 01:47:36,585
the department. The number of people in each

1727
01:47:36,585 --> 01:47:42,905
department vary. At least in the building department,

1728
01:47:42,905 --> 01:47:44,824
and other departments that I've been here for

1729
01:47:44,824 --> 01:47:48,750
thirty some years, The number of folks in

1730
01:47:48,750 --> 01:47:51,949
the tasks that need to be done, schedule

1731
01:47:51,949 --> 01:47:56,429
their vacations accordingly. As far as I know,

1732
01:47:56,429 --> 01:47:58,989
ever been, I think the only time I've

1733
01:47:58,989 --> 01:48:16,844
ever had an issue was scheduling someone's And

1734
01:48:17,480 --> 01:48:17,725
And she wanted to take a week's vacation.

1735
01:48:17,725 --> 01:48:16,844
she getting married two and a half months.

1736
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,920
Probationary period was up, and she wouldn't get

1737
01:48:40,265 --> 01:48:44,160
When? She just didn't get paid. Why do

1738
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,800
we need to update the policy then? Because

1739
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:51,360
currently, from department heads, transferring two weeks over

1740
01:48:51,360 --> 01:49:06,735
to the difficulties in in the bigger departments.

1741
01:49:07,775 --> 01:49:10,095
And in addition to that, it's important, if

1742
01:49:10,095 --> 01:49:12,255
you look at studies, it's important that people

1743
01:49:12,255 --> 01:49:15,659
take their vacation. It makes them better employees,

1744
01:49:15,659 --> 01:49:18,380
less stress, better for the the borough as

1745
01:49:18,380 --> 01:49:20,699
well. So sometimes we have to help in

1746
01:49:20,699 --> 01:49:23,019
that effort because people are so, you know,

1747
01:49:23,019 --> 01:49:24,460
I can't take this, I gotta be here.

1748
01:49:25,365 --> 01:49:27,285
So, we can help in that. If we

1749
01:49:27,285 --> 01:49:29,685
can say at least forty hours of your

1750
01:49:29,685 --> 01:49:31,845
six, five or six weeks, we want you

1751
01:49:31,845 --> 01:49:34,165
to take it within the first quarter. And

1752
01:49:34,165 --> 01:49:36,005
that, you know, we, I think we'll see

1753
01:49:36,005 --> 01:49:38,005
some benefit for the employees and for the

1754
01:49:38,005 --> 01:49:41,999
borough. The amount of vacation time though, right?

1755
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,480
Well, we're taking forty hours over as opposed

1756
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:47,520
to eighty. Of the same total amount of

1757
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:51,440
vacation? Yes. Carryovers, you're asking. They can carry

1758
01:49:51,440 --> 01:49:53,199
over half of what they used to if

1759
01:49:53,199 --> 01:49:57,025
we passed this. Nobody's losing vacation time. No,

1760
01:49:57,025 --> 01:50:00,145
I get that. It's it's less flexible. Right?

1761
01:50:00,145 --> 01:50:03,025
It's that that's kind of how I'm seeing

1762
01:50:03,025 --> 01:50:05,265
it. It's not well, you might look at

1763
01:50:05,265 --> 01:50:07,585
it that way, but it's more therapeutic. I

1764
01:50:07,585 --> 01:50:11,300
look at it that way. It's your perspective.

1765
01:50:11,380 --> 01:50:16,740
Okay. More therapeutic than the mean that when

1766
01:50:16,740 --> 01:50:19,860
people take their vacation time, they're less stressed.

1767
01:50:20,340 --> 01:50:23,875
At the committee work session meeting I had

1768
01:50:23,875 --> 01:50:28,275
a question whether having it, at least initially,

1769
01:50:28,595 --> 01:50:33,555
made more sense than perhaps instead of going

1770
01:50:33,555 --> 01:50:35,715
from 80 to 40, going from 80 to

1771
01:50:35,715 --> 01:50:38,550
60 and see how that works. And we

1772
01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:42,150
can always then change that later, would be

1773
01:50:42,150 --> 01:50:46,150
one option, and see how the employees feel

1774
01:50:46,150 --> 01:50:47,910
about it. And then the other thing that

1775
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:49,510
we noted, and I don't know if it's

1776
01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:51,875
in the policy, but everybody said it would

1777
01:50:51,875 --> 01:50:55,955
be assumed that no matter what we adopted,

1778
01:50:55,955 --> 01:50:57,875
if there was a change to that, that

1779
01:50:57,875 --> 01:51:01,555
it would be effective 2021, not this year.

1780
01:51:02,915 --> 01:51:05,315
If we carried over eighty hours under last

1781
01:51:05,315 --> 01:51:08,120
year's policy, they would still get those. Absolutely.

1782
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:10,199
We're not going to delete forty hours, but

1783
01:51:10,199 --> 01:51:12,599
carrying over next year to forty hours, everybody

1784
01:51:13,480 --> 01:51:15,159
I have to use all of that time,

1785
01:51:15,159 --> 01:51:17,080
say forty this year. And I think your

1786
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:19,400
point very well made because there are a

1787
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:35,640
lot of companies actually pushing to I'll be

1788
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:37,400
in a better mood next month. It's too

1789
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:42,040
early to be time off. Can't wait for

1790
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:45,320
summer, you know. It's foreign to me that

1791
01:51:45,574 --> 01:51:47,574
I'll wait a couple of years, what? I'm

1792
01:51:47,574 --> 01:51:50,375
taking my vacations out. Yeah, mean, I only

1793
01:51:50,375 --> 01:51:53,094
get two personal days a year, so I

1794
01:51:53,094 --> 01:51:56,295
don't have the flexibility. True. Where you have

1795
01:51:56,295 --> 01:51:58,455
to rearrange your lessons and things like that,

1796
01:51:58,455 --> 01:52:00,215
and summer when you're not really under a

1797
01:52:00,215 --> 01:52:07,430
contract. Yes, sure. FYI. I love it. It

1798
01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:10,390
helps a lot. So what about the again,

1799
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:13,590
have two different issues. One is the amount

1800
01:52:13,590 --> 01:52:15,135
of time that's being carried over and the

1801
01:52:15,135 --> 01:52:16,655
second is the requirement that it be used

1802
01:52:16,655 --> 01:52:27,055
by a particular matter. The second issue? It's

1803
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:29,920
requiring it be used by the NMA. Yeah,

1804
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:36,160
I mean, you're the I'd be able to

1805
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:37,760
do that. Fair labor standards probably would not

1806
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,335
allow us to banks if we allowed it

1807
01:52:41,335 --> 01:52:44,935
from January, at January 1. I would. I

1808
01:52:44,935 --> 01:52:47,974
mean, if you said, if your policy says,

1809
01:52:48,855 --> 01:52:51,014
you can carry over forty hours, but those

1810
01:52:51,014 --> 01:52:54,215
forty must be used by March 31, and

1811
01:52:54,215 --> 01:53:04,430
that on April. The federal or state law

1812
01:53:04,430 --> 01:53:19,045
would prohibit. When it comes vacation time, the

1813
01:53:19,045 --> 01:53:24,190
state law just enforces what the preexisting is

1814
01:53:24,190 --> 01:53:25,630
at the bar, which is why we wouldn't

1815
01:53:25,630 --> 01:53:28,030
take anything away. But going forward, we could

1816
01:53:28,030 --> 01:53:30,750
absolutely enforce that and say, hey, didn't use

1817
01:53:30,750 --> 01:53:34,590
it, sorry, we told you. Can certainly make

1818
01:53:35,390 --> 01:53:39,735
a motion to is not to have that

1819
01:53:39,735 --> 01:53:46,455
provision effective. I think it would help too,

1820
01:53:46,455 --> 01:53:50,375
because I've had, somebody already carried over two

1821
01:53:50,375 --> 01:54:01,330
weeks, you know. Absolutely. We have a lot

1822
01:54:01,330 --> 01:54:02,610
of folks, I mean this is I guess

1823
01:54:02,610 --> 01:54:15,185
more for the department. Amend any piece of

1824
01:54:15,185 --> 01:54:32,130
that? It would be I mean, Potentially changing

1825
01:54:32,130 --> 01:54:35,095
the date. It doesn't have to be at

1826
01:54:35,095 --> 01:54:37,255
the end of a quarter even, could it

1827
01:54:37,255 --> 01:54:41,815
be May 1 or I would just say

1828
01:54:41,815 --> 01:54:44,375
eliminate that entirely. What if we just reduced

1829
01:54:44,375 --> 01:54:48,869
it to a forty hour carryover and eliminating

1830
01:54:48,869 --> 01:54:51,109
it to be used by that time? So,

1831
01:54:51,349 --> 01:54:53,349
you you get to keep that forty hours.

1832
01:54:54,230 --> 01:54:56,869
I suspect that that's really a that if

1833
01:54:56,869 --> 01:54:59,765
someone's not taking that time in that timeframe,

1834
01:54:59,765 --> 01:55:01,125
that there's a good reason for it, that

1835
01:55:01,125 --> 01:55:06,805
the operational needs restrict that. Well, do mean,

1836
01:55:06,805 --> 01:55:08,805
that's fine, but I do hear from some

1837
01:55:08,805 --> 01:55:11,365
of the directors as we're getting into October,

1838
01:55:11,365 --> 01:55:13,605
November, December that people who have not taken

1839
01:55:13,605 --> 01:55:16,270
their vacation, everybody's trying to get it in.

1840
01:55:16,750 --> 01:55:19,310
So I think It's only and you're only

1841
01:55:19,310 --> 01:55:21,870
restricted on your carryover hours Exactly. Those four

1842
01:55:21,870 --> 01:55:23,470
hours. That's not all the hours you have.

1843
01:55:23,470 --> 01:55:25,710
It's just in the carryover. I mean, I'm

1844
01:55:25,710 --> 01:55:29,665
fine leaving it as it is, but Like

1845
01:55:29,665 --> 01:55:31,825
to see our employees be able to carry

1846
01:55:31,825 --> 01:55:35,105
over all of their two weeks. We'll use

1847
01:55:35,105 --> 01:55:38,625
it when they'd like. What's the current language?

1848
01:55:38,625 --> 01:55:39,825
What's the date that you have in there

1849
01:55:39,825 --> 01:55:41,665
now for the personnel policy that they have

1850
01:55:41,665 --> 01:55:43,520
to use it by? The first quarter? For

1851
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,400
the proposed policy? Yes. By March 31. March

1852
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:49,320
'30 first. First The forty hours by March

1853
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:53,360
31. But see again, in January they're getting,

1854
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:55,440
you know, all of their vacation for the

1855
01:55:55,440 --> 01:56:00,055
new year. So. You've been here, I forget

1856
01:56:00,055 --> 01:56:03,815
what the numbers are, but past Like, four,

1857
01:56:04,215 --> 01:56:07,735
four weeks. After fourteen years, you get five.

1858
01:56:07,735 --> 01:56:10,375
Five weeks. Plus five personal days. You're in

1859
01:56:10,375 --> 01:56:13,255
the five week, You get six weeks starting

1860
01:56:13,255 --> 01:56:29,385
January 1 if you carry 40 over. Like

1861
01:56:29,385 --> 01:56:30,825
you don't get your six week or four

1862
01:56:30,825 --> 01:56:33,065
weeks before you start to accrue throughout the

1863
01:56:33,065 --> 01:56:35,225
year, correct? Like if you were to leave

1864
01:56:35,225 --> 01:56:42,265
tomorrow, like you don't You may not have

1865
01:56:42,265 --> 01:56:44,105
earned it for the year, but you We

1866
01:56:44,105 --> 01:56:47,670
can take the year. Thoroughly your last paycheck

1867
01:56:47,670 --> 01:56:50,790
would Reflect that, yeah. Aim back the vacation

1868
01:56:50,790 --> 01:56:56,230
time. All right, your next, let's move on

1869
01:56:56,230 --> 01:56:57,829
to the second issue, which was the fifteen

1870
01:56:57,829 --> 01:57:02,885
minute wait. I mean, I think any rules

1871
01:57:02,885 --> 01:57:07,045
like this, I think are really made for

1872
01:57:07,045 --> 01:57:09,525
situations where you have and I'm not saying

1873
01:57:09,525 --> 01:57:11,445
we do, but if you were to have

1874
01:57:11,445 --> 01:57:14,350
a boss that was an issue, that you

1875
01:57:14,350 --> 01:57:17,470
didn't feel like they were handling your workday

1876
01:57:17,470 --> 01:57:19,710
in a fair, equitable way, that you would

1877
01:57:19,710 --> 01:57:22,350
have protection to take a break when you

1878
01:57:22,350 --> 01:57:24,190
needed it. And I'm not saying that's the

1879
01:57:24,190 --> 01:57:26,350
case now, because from what you said last

1880
01:57:26,350 --> 01:57:29,115
week, it sounds like employees have the opportunity

1881
01:57:29,115 --> 01:57:31,035
to take their breaks as needed, and it's

1882
01:57:31,035 --> 01:57:36,235
not a problem. If somehow a new department

1883
01:57:36,235 --> 01:57:39,195
head were to take over with a demanding

1884
01:57:39,195 --> 01:57:41,550
leadership style and someone needed that fifteen minute

1885
01:57:41,550 --> 01:57:43,310
break, I'd like them to be protected by

1886
01:57:43,310 --> 01:57:45,950
the personnel help. Then I'd I'd step in

1887
01:57:45,950 --> 01:57:49,070
on that one. They'd be protected. No worries.

1888
01:57:49,550 --> 01:57:51,390
Then I'd just like to see it codified

1889
01:57:51,390 --> 01:57:54,030
then. Yeah. I wouldn't. In the policy. Yeah.

1890
01:57:54,030 --> 01:57:56,395
I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree with Nick's slightly

1891
01:57:56,395 --> 01:57:59,755
in that. I agree that eliminating a specific

1892
01:57:59,755 --> 01:58:03,114
rate is actually to everyone's benefit for a

1893
01:58:03,114 --> 01:58:07,675
number of reasons. The first being, as the

1894
01:58:07,675 --> 01:58:20,340
employee, working, and it was 09:30, and everybody

1895
01:58:20,340 --> 01:58:23,300
started working again. And that's great, unless I

1896
01:58:23,300 --> 01:58:24,980
had to go to the bathroom at 10:15.

1897
01:58:27,045 --> 01:58:28,325
If that was the case, then I was

1898
01:58:28,325 --> 01:58:35,525
waiting until 11:30. Please stop. You know, you're

1899
01:58:35,525 --> 01:58:37,925
waiting until 11:30 to solve that problem, or

1900
01:58:37,925 --> 01:58:39,605
you get a call from your mother or

1901
01:58:39,605 --> 01:58:42,190
your wife or whomever, have to wait for

1902
01:58:42,190 --> 01:58:44,270
that as the employee. So putting a more

1903
01:58:44,270 --> 01:58:47,550
flexible break period is actually better for the

1904
01:58:47,550 --> 01:58:50,750
employee, to your point, that they don't have

1905
01:58:50,750 --> 01:58:52,830
somebody chasing them around the building asking where

1906
01:58:52,830 --> 01:58:57,284
they are, that is why Karen is here.

1907
01:58:58,085 --> 01:59:00,485
Absolutely. I guess that's not really how I

1908
01:59:00,485 --> 01:59:02,405
imagined it working here, was that you got

1909
01:59:02,405 --> 01:59:04,805
to pick when your fifteen minutes was. Well,

1910
01:59:04,805 --> 01:59:08,725
let me explain. It it's really the mindset,

1911
01:59:08,725 --> 01:59:11,030
and we have to take, you know, those

1912
01:59:11,030 --> 01:59:12,310
of us who have just come on board

1913
01:59:12,310 --> 01:59:13,910
and those of of those of us who

1914
01:59:13,910 --> 01:59:15,190
are who have been here for a long

1915
01:59:15,190 --> 01:59:16,870
time, we have to look at the way

1916
01:59:16,870 --> 01:59:18,950
things are going on if if changes need

1917
01:59:18,950 --> 01:59:21,350
to be made. I can tell you, in

1918
01:59:21,350 --> 01:59:24,310
the mornings, people come in maybe around 09:00,

1919
01:59:24,310 --> 01:59:26,645
nine fifteen, nine thirty, people go down to

1920
01:59:26,645 --> 01:59:28,805
the kitchen, make a cup of coffee or

1921
01:59:28,805 --> 01:59:31,605
whatever, they don't consider that a break. That's

1922
01:59:31,605 --> 01:59:34,245
part of the regular day. But then when

1923
01:59:34,245 --> 01:59:36,325
it gets to 10:00 and I want my

1924
01:59:36,325 --> 01:59:40,020
fifteen minutes, that's the problem that that I

1925
01:59:40,179 --> 01:59:42,500
it's an entitlement. It's in my head that

1926
01:59:42,500 --> 01:59:44,739
I get fifteen minutes. Never mind the fact

1927
01:59:44,739 --> 01:59:46,260
that I went and spent ten minutes. I

1928
01:59:46,260 --> 01:59:48,579
popped over to Barbara. How was your weekend?

1929
01:59:48,900 --> 01:59:51,139
What'd you do this weekend? You're getting your

1930
01:59:51,139 --> 01:59:53,745
time. You're getting your breaks. But then you're

1931
01:59:53,745 --> 01:59:56,545
gonna get another fifteen minutes just because in

1932
01:59:56,545 --> 01:59:59,425
your mind, you're that's allotted to you. You're

1933
01:59:59,425 --> 02:00:01,344
entitled to that break. So what I'm trying

1934
02:00:01,344 --> 02:00:03,505
to explain is people are getting their time.

1935
02:00:04,065 --> 02:00:06,340
It's just that they don't need to carve

1936
02:00:06,340 --> 02:00:08,500
it out in addition to what they're already

1937
02:00:08,500 --> 02:00:11,460
getting another fifteen minutes, and a fifteen minutes

1938
02:00:11,460 --> 02:00:13,620
in the afternoon, because you're doing that all

1939
02:00:13,620 --> 02:00:15,620
during the day. You've got the flexibility to

1940
02:00:15,620 --> 02:00:17,860
get up, go talk to somebody, go stretch

1941
02:00:17,860 --> 02:00:20,965
your legs. So that's that's the issue. How

1942
02:00:20,965 --> 02:00:26,085
a professional workplace is supposed to You don't

1943
02:00:26,085 --> 02:00:30,805
want your managers to be running around also

1944
02:00:30,805 --> 02:00:32,485
and saying, Hey, why are you in the

1945
02:00:32,485 --> 02:00:35,540
coffee room? Took I saw you took fifteen

1946
02:00:35,540 --> 02:00:38,500
minute break between ten and 10:15. I mean,

1947
02:00:38,500 --> 02:00:41,380
that is just It would get horrible. But

1948
02:00:41,380 --> 02:00:44,980
here's what happens is, we see this particularly

1949
02:00:44,980 --> 02:00:48,244
with employees who smoke, is that they go

1950
02:00:48,244 --> 02:00:50,085
out and they take a cigarette break every

1951
02:00:50,085 --> 02:00:52,324
five minutes It takes somebody with five minutes

1952
02:00:52,324 --> 02:00:54,485
every hour, and they take their fifteen minute

1953
02:00:54,485 --> 02:00:57,525
break, and then the manager's on somebody else

1954
02:00:57,525 --> 02:01:00,800
for taking more time, and they're saying, well,

1955
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,520
Sally goes out and smokes every day for

1956
02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:06,880
this and you end up as a manager

1957
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:12,080
feeling like a babysitter, going around and chasing

1958
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:14,465
people around to figure out when they took

1959
02:01:14,465 --> 02:01:17,265
breaks, or the only alternate solution is to

1960
02:01:17,265 --> 02:01:19,505
just not care, which is also not an

1961
02:01:19,505 --> 02:01:22,705
efficient way to run an office. So the

1962
02:01:22,705 --> 02:01:27,105
goal by not calculating the amount of time

1963
02:01:27,105 --> 02:01:30,030
that people take off is to evaluate folks

1964
02:01:30,030 --> 02:01:33,070
on their actual performance, not on whether they

1965
02:01:33,070 --> 02:01:34,989
were sitting in a particular space at a

1966
02:01:34,989 --> 02:01:40,190
particular time. Just to make sure that as

1967
02:01:40,190 --> 02:01:45,125
an employee who's not doing well, then that

1968
02:01:45,125 --> 02:01:47,045
should be addressed. Hey, you didn't get this

1969
02:01:47,045 --> 02:01:50,485
to me on time. Maybe it's because you're

1970
02:01:50,485 --> 02:01:52,885
outside every fifteen minutes, or, you know, maybe

1971
02:01:52,885 --> 02:01:54,805
it's because you drink 17 cups of coffee

1972
02:01:54,805 --> 02:01:56,885
a day, or you're at the water, you

1973
02:01:56,885 --> 02:02:00,890
know, whatever the case may be. And again,

1974
02:02:00,890 --> 02:02:02,570
the whole fifteen minute in the morning and

1975
02:02:02,570 --> 02:02:05,849
fifteen minute in the afternoon, that was originally

1976
02:02:06,170 --> 02:02:09,050
and probably still does happen in warehouses or

1977
02:02:09,050 --> 02:02:13,875
factories, places where you don't have the flexibility

1978
02:02:13,875 --> 02:02:15,635
to move. I know I worked in one,

1979
02:02:15,635 --> 02:02:18,755
I was a supervisor at a brewery, and

1980
02:02:18,755 --> 02:02:20,755
when you're those blinds are running, when that

1981
02:02:20,755 --> 02:02:22,835
Budweiser and Bud Light and everything is coming

1982
02:02:22,835 --> 02:02:25,155
down the line, you're standing there and whatever

1983
02:02:25,155 --> 02:02:27,395
your function is, you do it. You don't

1984
02:02:27,395 --> 02:02:28,630
have time to go get a cup of

1985
02:02:28,630 --> 02:02:31,030
coffee or go chat with anybody. You do

1986
02:02:31,030 --> 02:02:32,470
it until it's time for you to take

1987
02:02:32,470 --> 02:02:35,030
your break. And then the line will stop.

1988
02:02:35,030 --> 02:02:36,950
You go take your break, come back, and

1989
02:02:36,950 --> 02:02:40,150
you punch out. You punch back in, start

1990
02:02:40,150 --> 02:02:42,175
back up, and then you go again. So

1991
02:02:42,175 --> 02:02:43,775
those people that are in those types of

1992
02:02:43,775 --> 02:02:46,335
jobs don't have the flexibility that we do

1993
02:02:46,335 --> 02:02:48,175
here. I think we just need to start

1994
02:02:48,175 --> 02:02:50,015
treating people like adults and they need to

1995
02:02:50,015 --> 02:02:52,655
take responsibility. On the flip side of that,

1996
02:02:52,655 --> 02:02:54,230
you know what, You don't get to take

1997
02:02:54,230 --> 02:02:56,790
a fifteen minute break today because you've got

1998
02:02:56,790 --> 02:02:58,550
something that you need to do for your

1999
02:02:58,550 --> 02:03:01,510
work, then you need to do that. All

2000
02:03:01,510 --> 02:03:03,830
of you, I'm sure, have done that. You

2001
02:03:03,830 --> 02:03:05,510
don't always get to take what you need,

2002
02:03:05,510 --> 02:03:07,725
you know, the break at the time or

2003
02:03:07,725 --> 02:03:10,525
the day or whatever. On the flip side,

2004
02:03:10,525 --> 02:03:12,205
all of us have also had days where

2005
02:03:12,205 --> 02:03:14,765
it's like, oh crap, it's 11:00, I should

2006
02:03:14,765 --> 02:03:17,565
probably get some stuff done. That's your Exactly.

2007
02:03:19,085 --> 02:03:22,180
I will say is I have never drafted

2008
02:03:22,180 --> 02:03:26,580
a policy for a professional workplace that would

2009
02:03:26,580 --> 02:03:31,140
implement a specific time period for break time.

2010
02:03:31,620 --> 02:03:33,775
Lunch time can be a different story depending

2011
02:03:33,775 --> 02:03:38,655
upon the work. I've never seen, been involved

2012
02:03:38,655 --> 02:03:42,975
in litigation. A policy that said to a

2013
02:03:42,975 --> 02:03:47,135
professional workplace, you have fifteen minutes at this

2014
02:03:47,135 --> 02:03:48,650
time in the morning or this time in

2015
02:03:48,650 --> 02:03:54,250
the afternoon. It's just Uncommon way. And then,

2016
02:03:54,250 --> 02:03:56,250
I mean, we have department heads here, so

2017
02:03:56,250 --> 02:04:03,245
if anybody None of them will say that

2018
02:04:03,245 --> 02:04:06,925
they're not professional, because they can speak for

2019
02:04:06,925 --> 02:04:10,365
themselves. But the other issue is, which we

2020
02:04:10,365 --> 02:04:13,085
haven't talked about, the break period that people

2021
02:04:13,085 --> 02:04:16,205
take today, and believe me, there's not a

2022
02:04:16,205 --> 02:04:18,239
lot of people that take it, that I'm

2023
02:04:18,239 --> 02:04:21,679
aware of. People do let smoke, but I

2024
02:04:21,679 --> 02:04:23,199
don't know if it's fifteen minutes, five minutes,

2025
02:04:23,199 --> 02:04:29,679
or ten minutes. Who's counting? Break period is

2026
02:04:29,679 --> 02:04:36,285
paid time. Lunchtime is paid time that the

2027
02:04:36,285 --> 02:04:41,005
taxpayers are paying for. That's part of the

2028
02:04:41,005 --> 02:04:47,699
equation too. What I've seen, not here, industry,

2029
02:04:48,019 --> 02:04:50,579
where people would, if they're entitled to fifteen

2030
02:04:50,579 --> 02:04:52,659
in the morning, fifteen in the afternoon, but

2031
02:04:52,659 --> 02:04:54,659
they don't take their fifteen in the morning,

2032
02:04:55,219 --> 02:04:57,940
they add that to their lunch period. So

2033
02:04:57,940 --> 02:05:00,179
now they get an hour and fifteen minutes,

2034
02:05:00,179 --> 02:05:01,219
or if they don't take it in the

2035
02:05:01,219 --> 02:05:05,435
afternoon, they leave early. Because they figured that's

2036
02:05:05,435 --> 02:05:09,595
my fifteen minutes because it's been, I've never

2037
02:05:09,595 --> 02:05:16,729
seen that in industry, you know, my industry,

2038
02:05:16,730 --> 02:05:20,889
where you're guaranteed. Work till your job is

2039
02:05:20,889 --> 02:05:30,885
done, and you're done, you're done. So now

2040
02:05:30,885 --> 02:05:35,525
what do we do? Well, if enough people

2041
02:05:35,525 --> 02:05:38,245
feel that the policy is presented is sufficient,

2042
02:05:38,245 --> 02:05:46,080
then I'd like to make a motion we

2043
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:48,480
accept it as it's read and print it.

2044
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:56,719
Tomorrow. I'm going start watching the clock when

2045
02:05:56,719 --> 02:06:00,535
we do take our breaks. We have a

2046
02:06:00,535 --> 02:06:03,815
motion. Do we have a second? Second. We

2047
02:06:03,815 --> 02:06:06,855
have a follow-up question. Can I put up

2048
02:06:06,855 --> 02:06:13,310
an amendment to remove the section on vacation

2049
02:06:13,310 --> 02:06:22,590
carryover and the fifteen minute break set? Asking

2050
02:06:22,590 --> 02:06:26,190
Bernie if he'll amend his motion to remove

2051
02:06:26,190 --> 02:06:34,505
those. Oh, I won't. Mr. Allen? Mr. Sopano?

2052
02:06:34,505 --> 02:06:37,945
Yes. Mr. Flynn? Yes. Ms. Paul? Yes. Mr.

2053
02:06:37,945 --> 02:06:42,160
Riesling? Yes. Mr. Scott? Aye. Mr. Galley? Yes.

2054
02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:44,800
The motion passes six to one. I got

2055
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:47,680
a I think it was a very long

2056
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:49,440
time before I was the one no vote

2057
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:55,915
on council. I'm being entirely serious that it

2058
02:06:55,915 --> 02:06:57,355
takes a lot of guts to sit up

2059
02:06:57,355 --> 02:06:59,914
here for your first full council meeting and

2060
02:07:00,235 --> 02:07:03,594
disagree with everyone else. I am I'm drafting

2061
02:07:03,594 --> 02:07:06,315
an email right now, apologizing for the time

2062
02:07:06,315 --> 02:07:09,480
I just said. You can delete it. I'm

2063
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:10,840
going to say it. You're entitled to it.

2064
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:11,960
Then I know He's smarter to me as

2065
02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:13,800
he may be right. I think he's smart.

2066
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:17,400
He's very smart. And there were times, because

2067
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:19,000
Mike uses it here, and there'd be times

2068
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:21,080
I'd look over at him just quietly say,

2069
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:28,395
You're being contrary. Maybe we should rearrange. All

2070
02:07:28,395 --> 02:07:31,035
right, thank you. On to approve entering into

2071
02:07:31,035 --> 02:07:33,915
a contract with Glassgoing to supply bituminous materials

2072
02:07:33,915 --> 02:07:40,500
at a cost of Yes, and we did,

2073
02:07:40,500 --> 02:07:43,620
I was satisfied with them today, I'd recommend

2074
02:07:43,620 --> 02:07:55,805
the council approve Okay. Motion by Mr. Tazpano.

2075
02:07:55,805 --> 02:07:59,565
Yes. Mr. Flynn. Yes. Polk. Yes. Mr. Bracelin.

2076
02:07:59,565 --> 02:08:08,020
Yes. Mr. Scott. Mr. Galey. Yes. Don't get

2077
02:08:08,020 --> 02:08:13,300
kudos. The next item is the consent agenda.

2078
02:08:14,260 --> 02:08:17,380
Oh yeah, consent. Are we going to cover,

2079
02:08:17,620 --> 02:08:22,015
Mr. Gallo, excuse me. We missed Parks and

2080
02:08:22,015 --> 02:08:25,855
Rec last night. The update for was not

2081
02:08:25,855 --> 02:08:30,095
on here. Counsel, the update on the summer

2082
02:08:30,095 --> 02:08:32,910
parks program. Oh, you know what? Can we

2083
02:08:32,910 --> 02:08:34,510
do the consent agenda and then just do

2084
02:08:34,510 --> 02:08:37,470
that next? That should be easy. Can I

2085
02:08:37,470 --> 02:08:39,870
get a motion on the consent agenda? I

2086
02:08:39,870 --> 02:08:42,990
move. Right. Mr. Allen moves to accept the

2087
02:08:42,990 --> 02:08:46,405
consent agenda. Do I have a second? Second.

2088
02:08:46,965 --> 02:08:49,125
Bergeron seconds. Can you call the question? Mr.

2089
02:08:49,125 --> 02:08:51,925
Allen? Yes. Mr. Stefano? Yes. Mr. Flynn? Yes.

2090
02:08:51,925 --> 02:08:54,885
Ms. Polk? Yes. Mr. Bracelin? Yes. Mr. Scott?

2091
02:08:54,885 --> 02:08:57,280
Yes. Mr. Gellan? Yes. Thank you. All right.

2092
02:08:57,280 --> 02:09:01,040
Thank you, Keith. Keith Kurowski, Director of Parks

2093
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:03,520
and Recreation. We discussed it at the Act

2094
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:07,040
Committee last week. Didn't get an exact recommendation

2095
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:08,960
and again wanted to present this to the

2096
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:11,175
entire council. Should have done it last night,

2097
02:09:11,175 --> 02:09:13,015
kind of got passed over from the two

2098
02:09:13,015 --> 02:09:16,215
marathons we've had. The information was there. If

2099
02:09:16,215 --> 02:09:17,415
anyone else needs to see it in paper

2100
02:09:17,415 --> 02:09:19,175
form, I have it here as well. It

2101
02:09:19,175 --> 02:09:21,495
goes over the finance of our summer camp,

2102
02:09:21,495 --> 02:09:26,690
what we're planning to do. Thanks, Keith. Thank

2103
02:09:26,690 --> 02:09:29,489
you. You know what, I'll just pass them

2104
02:09:29,489 --> 02:09:40,755
down. Thanks. We've been hard at work. The

2105
02:09:40,755 --> 02:09:42,675
Melton Center and the Parks and Rec Department

2106
02:09:42,675 --> 02:09:44,594
putting together this brand new program pretty much

2107
02:09:44,594 --> 02:09:47,314
from scratch, of combining two programs into one.

2108
02:09:47,635 --> 02:09:48,994
What you have is an outline in front

2109
02:09:48,994 --> 02:09:51,235
of you that goes over the program on

2110
02:09:51,235 --> 02:09:53,100
a summary basis and one that goes over

2111
02:09:53,100 --> 02:09:55,100
on a financial basis. From the Act Committee

2112
02:09:55,100 --> 02:09:57,180
last week, it seems like everyone's kind of

2113
02:09:57,180 --> 02:09:58,780
in order and what we're looking to do.

2114
02:09:59,180 --> 02:10:01,260
Again, we're cutting the camp program basically in

2115
02:10:01,260 --> 02:10:03,820
half for number of children. That's based on

2116
02:10:03,820 --> 02:10:05,900
resident numbers from the Melton Center last year

2117
02:10:05,900 --> 02:10:08,295
and our excuse me, our residents from last

2118
02:10:08,295 --> 02:10:12,135
year. We're rearranging the program to include more

2119
02:10:12,135 --> 02:10:15,335
of a STEAM aspect, the science, technology, education,

2120
02:10:15,335 --> 02:10:18,295
arts and math. So we're looking to build

2121
02:10:18,295 --> 02:10:21,175
this program together, the Melton Center and the

2122
02:10:21,175 --> 02:10:23,230
rec department to do what you guys asked

2123
02:10:23,230 --> 02:10:24,909
us to do. And quite honestly, think we've

2124
02:10:24,909 --> 02:10:26,110
done a pretty good job of laying the

2125
02:10:26,110 --> 02:10:28,989
framework so far. Our pricing is right in

2126
02:10:28,989 --> 02:10:31,630
line with other camps locally, especially the YMCA,

2127
02:10:31,630 --> 02:10:34,270
which is another popular camp. Our program is

2128
02:10:34,270 --> 02:10:37,744
eight weeks long. Theirs is ten. We are

2129
02:10:37,744 --> 02:10:39,505
going to be working with the Y actually

2130
02:10:39,505 --> 02:10:41,425
out of their airport row. We're going to

2131
02:10:41,425 --> 02:10:43,905
be doing some swimming programs. On the back

2132
02:10:43,905 --> 02:10:45,185
page of the summary, you can see that

2133
02:10:45,185 --> 02:10:46,545
some of the other groups will be working

2134
02:10:46,545 --> 02:10:49,025
with. And I'm just here to answer any

2135
02:10:49,025 --> 02:10:51,320
questions you may have. We're looking to start

2136
02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:54,360
our registrations on March 2. So I didn't

2137
02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:57,159
want to do so without your approval. Do

2138
02:10:57,159 --> 02:11:08,605
we have any questions for Chief? Yeah. Well,

2139
02:11:08,605 --> 02:11:09,965
again, based on the time that I'll be

2140
02:11:09,965 --> 02:11:12,445
putting into this new program, yes, hopefully in

2141
02:11:12,445 --> 02:11:14,845
future years, with the way the programs will

2142
02:11:14,845 --> 02:11:25,719
be built up. Oh, misunderstood. Oh, yeah. Not

2143
02:11:25,719 --> 02:11:27,239
paid from that from the camp program. My

2144
02:11:27,239 --> 02:11:28,920
apologies. No, that is a percentage of my

2145
02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:32,440
salary based on my Okay. Unless you all

2146
02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:37,535
would like to. Yeah. So, Yeah. So program

2147
02:11:37,535 --> 02:11:42,975
coordinator, who's that? That's Allison Humphries. She's technically

2148
02:11:43,135 --> 02:11:46,095
she's the event coordinator. Yeah, that's her percentage

2149
02:11:46,095 --> 02:11:49,455
of salary. She makes less, but she puts

2150
02:11:49,455 --> 02:11:54,570
in more time. On this particular Have you

2151
02:11:54,570 --> 02:11:56,570
been doing this over the years? That is

2152
02:11:57,530 --> 02:12:02,650
allocating Yes. Salary? Yes. And again, this was

2153
02:12:02,650 --> 02:12:04,969
worked on initially from the Parks and Rec

2154
02:12:04,969 --> 02:12:07,505
staff along with the finance department to get

2155
02:12:07,505 --> 02:12:11,025
those numbers, those kind of unforeseen numbers, the

2156
02:12:11,025 --> 02:12:13,344
workers' comp, the insurance, the liability, things of

2157
02:12:13,344 --> 02:12:15,425
that nature that you don't normally see. So

2158
02:12:15,425 --> 02:12:17,025
we did that first before we started moving

2159
02:12:17,025 --> 02:13:54,195
into the programming aspect of things. That's when

2160
02:13:54,195 --> 02:13:56,275
I did the cost analysis on all the

2161
02:13:56,275 --> 02:14:05,590
events. Yeah. Well, this is, I'm assuming, what

2162
02:14:05,590 --> 02:14:07,670
percentage of your time is spent working on

2163
02:14:07,670 --> 02:14:28,585
this program? Exactly. Yes. And and to focus

2164
02:14:28,585 --> 02:14:31,145
more on the residents and to add an

2165
02:14:31,145 --> 02:14:34,825
educational aspect to the program. Or more of

2166
02:14:34,825 --> 02:14:38,010
an education aspect, I should say. And to

2167
02:14:38,490 --> 02:14:41,370
doing the partnership with the Dental Center, we're

2168
02:14:41,370 --> 02:14:44,970
in position to develop programs. Which is, in

2169
02:14:44,970 --> 02:14:46,490
all honesty, been really great. I've been working

2170
02:14:46,490 --> 02:14:49,745
with Ken and Jamie, and we've had numerous

2171
02:14:49,745 --> 02:14:52,705
meetings and everyone's on board. Again, trying to

2172
02:14:52,705 --> 02:14:54,865
make this our program as a whole, not

2173
02:14:54,865 --> 02:14:56,545
theirs and ours, but ours. I think it

2174
02:14:56,545 --> 02:15:00,225
would be really good. Yes, Commission has been

2175
02:15:00,225 --> 02:15:02,710
involved. Absolutely. We've been asked, they've been asked

2176
02:15:02,710 --> 02:15:04,070
to come to every meeting we've had. We've

2177
02:15:04,070 --> 02:15:06,310
had Chantel, we've had Joyce Neal in the

2178
02:15:06,310 --> 02:15:10,150
chair. Unfortunately due to scheduling with the core

2179
02:15:10,150 --> 02:15:12,310
four, most of these meetings are during the

2180
02:15:12,310 --> 02:15:13,605
day. So a lot of the folks can't

2181
02:15:13,605 --> 02:15:25,605
make it. Okay. Thank you. Absolutely. This is

2182
02:15:25,605 --> 02:15:28,310
just borough residents now. There's no non as

2183
02:15:28,310 --> 02:15:30,070
of right now, based on the numbers that

2184
02:15:30,070 --> 02:15:32,150
we have, we're basing some two buses, 90

2185
02:15:32,150 --> 02:15:34,710
kids. The Mountain Center had 30 to 35

2186
02:15:34,710 --> 02:15:37,189
children. We had 40 to 45 to 50.

2187
02:15:37,270 --> 02:15:40,455
So we're looking at 75 to 85 residents,

2188
02:15:40,455 --> 02:15:42,054
which will only leave us enough space on

2189
02:15:42,054 --> 02:15:44,535
the two buses for the kids and the

2190
02:15:44,535 --> 02:15:46,695
staff. We get 100 people on the buses.

2191
02:15:46,695 --> 02:15:48,695
So we're figuring our staff again based on

2192
02:15:48,695 --> 02:15:51,015
what you see here, less kids, less staff.

2193
02:15:51,150 --> 02:15:54,830
So basically just borough residents. Most definitely borough

2194
02:15:54,830 --> 02:16:01,230
residents. I just think that was kind of

2195
02:16:01,230 --> 02:16:15,315
a point of content. Yes. I think we

2196
02:16:15,315 --> 02:16:16,594
need to vote on this but is there

2197
02:16:16,594 --> 02:16:20,930
any objection to the Want to fill you

2198
02:16:20,930 --> 02:16:22,770
all in? Keith, I think this is really

2199
02:16:22,770 --> 02:16:25,170
good work. Cool. Thank you. Nice. Thank you.

2200
02:16:35,575 --> 02:16:36,854
Kind of want to go to this camp.

2201
02:16:36,854 --> 02:16:38,615
I was thinking the same thing. I was

2202
02:16:38,615 --> 02:16:40,854
thinking I wish this was in place when

2203
02:16:40,854 --> 02:16:49,600
my children were young. This looks great. Put

2204
02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:55,360
that in the personnel manual. Do we have

2205
02:16:55,360 --> 02:17:00,725
any other business from anyone here? Alright, seeing

2206
02:17:00,725 --> 02:17:07,443
none, we are adjourned. Consentative. Consentative. Consentative. Consentative.

2207
02:17:07,443 --> 02:17:11,443
Nice try. Council members, there are some resolutions

2208
02:17:11,443 --> 02:17:13,523
going around. Please don't leave until you have

2209
02:17:13,523 --> 02:17:19,072
signed those. Wish we didn't wait till to

2210
02:17:19,072 --> 02:17:19,871
meet the best.