[0:01] [snorts]
[0:10] Good evening everybody. We'll call the
August 20th, 2026 Board of Supervisors
[0:17] meeting to order. Uh we'll start with
the pledge of allegiance and then the uh
[0:21] invocation by Mrs. Zimmerman.
[0:27] » I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:32] republic for it stands one nation
indivisible with liberty and justice for
[0:40] all.
>> God bless America.
[0:46] » Thank you.
Let us talk to the Lord.
[0:52] Almighty God, we thank you for this
meeting. We ask that your presence be
[0:56] here to guide and lead and direct the
supervisors. Lord, help them to have
[1:01] wisdom and knowledge in making the
decisions they have to make. And may it
[1:07] benefit all of our residents. We pray,
dear God, for our staff who works
[1:13] diligently.
And we pray, dear God, that you will
[1:17] lead all of us home safely. We pray for
military men and women throughout the
[1:22] world. Lord, we ask that you keep them
safe, give them courage, help them to be
[1:28] strong, and give their families comfort.
We ask that all things be done here in
[1:34] the glory of God and not for man. We ask
all this in our Savior's name in all
[1:39] faiths.
>> Amen.
[1:48] » Uh, roll call. Mrs. force.
>> Mr. Ray
[1:53] » here.
>> Mrs. Carl
[1:55] » here.
>> Mr. Mayor
[1:57] » here.
>> Mr. Shanderski
[1:59] » here.
>> Mr. Miller
[2:01] » here.
[2:05] » Approval of the July 16th meeting
minutes. May I have a motion to approve
[2:10] the July 16th meeting minutes?
>> So move.
[2:15] » Motion made by Mr. Shanderski. Second.
>> Second. Second by Mr. Rayup. All in
[2:22] favor?
>> I.
[2:24] » Motion carries.
May I have a motion to approve the July
[2:28] 23rd public hearing meeting minutes?
>> So move.
[2:34] » Motion by Miss Carl.
>> Second.
[2:36] » Second
>> by Mr. Shanderski. All in favor?
[2:40] » I.
>> Motion carries. Uh the PA State Police
[2:45] Inperson report. Uh we were notified
yesterday at 300 p.m. that they cannot
[2:50] attend.
West handover
[2:54] Fire Company inerson report.
Uh do you want to make some comments?
[2:59] » Well, I can tell you since we met
started meeting earlier around a little
[3:03] under five, they've been on three calls.
So they're probably a little bit.
[3:10] » Is there anything uh that you would want
to report?
[3:13] » I mean still I mean last year numbers
were up considerably. This year has been
[3:18] just as ridiculous. Um, obviously July
with the storms was not something
[3:25] I don't even know what you mean. We had
a lot a lot of calls. So the men and
[3:29] women are busy and they definitely
appreciate
[3:33] um
support.
[3:37] » Thank you. [snorts]
Correspondence is none. Uh the first
[3:43] public comment, if you would uh please
come to the podium and state your name
[3:47] and address for the record.
[3:56] » Linda turns 8000 rabbit lane. I have a
couple things to ask the board.
[4:02] » Number one, I understand that
>> I don't need that. You can hear my voice
[4:06] everywhere.
>> Well, you have to because of the uh
[4:09] » Oh, for that recording. Um,
I understand that you can't do anything
[4:17] for an individual that does not have a
permit and the only way they're
[4:24] obligated is if someone complains and
signs a complaint personal. I just had
[4:31] one on my street and of course the
neighbor wouldn't sign. I can't blame
[4:36] her. But the individual had a really
building really building something. And
[4:45] of course then Janet sent him a notice.
But why is it that we have to
[4:53] sign
to complain about I mean people can get
[4:56] away with anything unless you're willing
to sign a document. I don't understand
[5:02] that.
[5:06] » Mr. Russell, would you
>> I'll take that. The reason we ask for
[5:11] people to fill out the complaint form,
it's not so much a science. It's filling
[5:14] out the complaint form is a lot of times
we get anonymous complaints, but if we
[5:19] don't have somebody we can talk with or
permission to go on the property, see
[5:22] that and to do things, we can't follow
up on those complaints. When we have a
[5:25] written complaint, we it gives us the
legal authority to go onto a site and
[5:30] visit. Usually it's if a neighbor's
complaining about a neighbor, the
[5:33] neighbor that files the complaint,
that's the person we go visit and we
[5:36] look over the fence or something to see
what what's going on with the problem.
[5:39] So,
>> well, I certainly wouldn't sign a
[5:42] complaint for the next door neighbors. I
have they no doubt come out and get me.
[5:47] [laughter]
>> We we try we try and keep it anonymous,
[5:50] but obviously
when you investigate a complaint, a lot
[5:54] of times it's pretty easy for someone to
figure out who filed the complaint. It
[5:57] just but but so that's why where we have
that form too. We we have a person
[6:02] acknowledge that we try and keep it
private but at some point the person
[6:06] that that's that's getting complained
about is going to kind of figure out
[6:09] what's going
>> I wouldn't put my name to anything and I
[6:11] don't blame the individuals that won't
do it. Truly I don't The other thing I
[6:16] want to ask you I've asked a long time
about having some place for a library or
[6:21] book exchange. Now, we have a small
thing at the uh rec center once a month,
[6:27] and I understand the building's open
three different days a week, but we have
[6:32] a rack in there that's so overloaded
that you can't even hunt for something.
[6:36] It's two-sided, you know, a push rack.
So, is there any way I understand the
[6:41] recck department has an office here and
an office over there in the in the
[6:46] building. What can be done to help us uh
do something a wall of shelves or
[6:52] something uh that would be easier to go
through the books and something a start
[6:58] of a real exchange? I mean, I'm asking
you that's all. Maybe in that building
[7:04] over there, some kind of shelves.
>> Well, we'll take that to uh Mr. Holmes
[7:11] and see [laughter] what his uh
>> Mr. Holmes and I had a discussion today.
[7:16] » [laughter]
>> All right. Thank you.
[7:18] » Thank you,
[7:22] » Scott. Just to uh review your comments.
Uh
[7:27] it's not required for signature on a
complaint form.
[7:30] » No, it's just filling the form out.
>> Okay.
[7:32] » But it you got you have personal
information you're putting on there when
[7:36] you fill the form out. A
>> lot. It's contact information, emails,
[7:39] telephone number, and details about the
complaint. And then we would we follow
[7:43] up. But we do get we get emails and
we'll follow up on an email too as long
[7:47] as there's some detail behind it. We're
not too picky necessarily, but we do
[7:52] have to have information. So when we get
anonymous complaint about a neighbor and
[7:56] we don't even know who it is and we that
becomes a little bit more difficult then
[8:00] for us to to follow up on something.
>> The other issue we sometimes run into is
[8:05] in the event we have to go to the MDJ,
we need a witness.
[8:09] So, if we don't have a witness, we can't
proceed to the MDJ because oftentimes
[8:15] Janet doesn't see the violation
personally. So, we'd have trouble
[8:20] actually getting enforcement if we don't
have someone willing to do so.
[8:25] » Thank you.
>> Thank you. Presentations,
[8:32] staff and board reports for July,
zoning report, engineers report, fire
[8:39] chief's report, parks and wreck meeting
minutes, environmental advisory
[8:45] committee meeting minutes, West handover
sewer authority managers report, South
[8:51] Central EMS
chief's report, Republic Services
[8:57] monthly report,
property maintenance log and the
[9:02] manager's report are all out on the
counter uh outside of the meeting room
[9:06] if anybody has any interest.
>> Mr. Chair, if I could just elaborate on
[9:11] just a couple things on my report is
that if that's okay. Go ahead.
[9:15] » Uh so for the township building just
since we're going to be talking a lot
[9:18] about the township building tonight with
a lot of the the remaining work with our
[9:22] contractors. Uh we're at the point now
where with the bills that get approved
[9:26] tonight, we're we're considered we're
giving uh notice of completion notices
[9:31] for the work that's been done inside the
building. We're now going into
[9:34] maintenance mode at this point. The work
outside the building with our long very
[9:40] tall grass and weeds right now. Um the
contractor still has held monies to
[9:46] address those issues which we'll talk
about a little bit later. Um, and they
[9:49] will be coming in in the fall to work on
that and then wrapping it up in the
[9:53] spring uh to give time for the grass to
grow. But with our open house that we're
[9:58] going to be having next week, our site,
our landscaping mower contractor is
[10:03] going to be coming tomorrow and is going
to be mowing and getting everything
[10:07] ready for the open house next week. So,
it's not this is the last day of us
[10:11] having really long grass. And that was
done deliberately during the dry periods
[10:15] to give the a chance for the grass to
grow and and the weeds took advantage of
[10:20] that too. So, but that's that's work in
progress. And also since April and this
[10:24] will be talked about later, um the
architect Kim Borquette was uh their
[10:30] work was placed on hold. They were given
a stop work order and from that time
[10:34] I've been doing the work of the
architect um with uh for this project
[10:38] and we'll be talking about that later.
Another thing real quick with Mr. Mr.
[10:42] Chanderski had been has been leading the
ordinance update working group. Uh they
[10:47] have gotten done their work and the
ordinance has been given to myself and
[10:51] our town solicitor for us to review and
we'll be working on that for next couple
[10:55] weeks. Uh more than likely October we'll
probably start the hearing process for
[10:59] that uh with that that process. So um so
that's that's advancing at this point.
[11:06] Uh we're going to talk later, but I did
prepare a job description for HR
[11:10] generalists. Um, and
another thing real quick because this is
[11:16] going to be showing up in our October
budget uh discussions is going to be uh
[11:22] the last two months I've been putting
together a 10-year paving plan for the
[11:25] township and it's going to be focusing
on transitioning how the township
[11:30] approaches road maintenance. Uh for
previous years we would do what's called
[11:34] roadway rehabilitation which means we
would let the roads get to a really bad
[11:39] condition and then we would uh mill
overlay or reconstruct it with full
[11:43] depth reclamation or something that's
really expensive. And what we're
[11:47] proposing is uh to now take the process
of doing more road maintenance uh with
[11:55] basically doing maintenance treatments
instead of letting the roads go all the
[11:58] way to where we have to do a full depth
reclamation
[12:01] project. It's going to be a new focus
and it's going to be rolled out in the
[12:05] next month um first to the board and
then to the public. Uh so that is
[12:10] happening here. Um, financially, since
we're going to be talking again about
[12:14] the the the township building project,
uh, we had $3 million budgeted for this
[12:20] year for 2026.
When we process the bills tonight,
[12:24] including the outstanding bills we still
have with site prep and some additional
[12:29] monies for doing the some retrofit work
for that first basin, we're going to be
[12:33] at about $2.1 million spent when we had
$3 million budgeted. So, um, our 2026
[12:40] budget's actually looking pretty good.
The rest of our numbers through the
[12:43] month of June for 2026, we are exceeding
where we were the previous year in terms
[12:49] of revenue and we're lower in cost than
where we were the previous year in terms
[12:53] of expenses. So, everything is right now
kind of tracking. Uh, the big items that
[12:58] we still have are waiting on is getting
the rack peak grant, which is $2.5
[13:01] million, which will really make the the
budget whole at this point for the
[13:04] township.
Then the last thing just to make discuss
[13:09] one more thing besides the last thing um
September 1st um with the storm water
[13:14] authority guys seeing in the audience
I'm seeing here uh we have the uh we
[13:19] have MS4 D compliance inspection going
on. So we're going to be visited from D
[13:25] and they're going to do a three-hour
visit and go over our entire MS4 program
[13:29] in the township. It's going to be a fun
and joyous time at that point when that
[13:33] occurs. Uh but they will be going
through our annual report. Uh if they
[13:37] have any questions or any emissions,
they'll get brought up in there. They'll
[13:41] be going over our various plans and then
we get to do what is MCM6
[13:47] uh activities, which is going through
our public works and looking at our
[13:51] inspections. We're going to visit our
pollution reduction plan site that we
[13:56] did the project for, visit some BMPs,
look at some outfalls. It's a wonderful
[14:01] time. So, but that's coming. That's
actually kind of a big deal. Um maybe
[14:06] I'll have Max Sher come by join me for
that process, but that's going to be a
[14:10] big deal for the township. The town has
never had a compliance visit before. Uh
[14:16] the last thing is on um yesterday
um Prolis
[14:22] had previously requested permission to
perform night work um and had that we
[14:27] had looked at zoning implications in
terms of the noise ordinance. uh they
[14:31] have now formally come in and submit a
request uh to do night work um and which
[14:38] they are not permitted to do with the
township's UCCC ordinance which is our
[14:42] chapter 88 construction codes uh that
states that any construction activity
[14:48] that's required to obtain a permit which
is a building permit uh or that involves
[14:53] exterior construction commercial
remodeling shall be limited hours of
[14:56] 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. violations
ordinance shall be subject to penalties
[15:00] in that same section. Um so there's no
clause in there where they come to the
[15:05] board of supervisors and request relief
of that requirement. Uh so they are
[15:09] going to uh be submitting a what's
officially called a UCCC appeal board
[15:14] appeal that's run by Capcog and that
will be held on September 22nd at 5:00
[15:21] PM in Hampton Township. Um and the
appeal is actually at the back of the
[15:26] engineer and manager's report for that.
Um even if that grant appeal is granted
[15:31] by the UCCC board, uh prodologist will
still be subject to nighttime noise
[15:36] limits that are in the zoning ordinance.
So that that part doesn't go away for
[15:40] the noise limit requirements. But this
is just for them to even have permission
[15:44] to do night work, which our our code
does not allow to have happen. But the
[15:48] way that Pennsylvania's UCCC code is,
there is a mechism for appeal. And I
[15:54] can't pretend to be an expert on this.
All my years of doing this work. It's
[15:57] the first time I've ever been in a UCCC
appeal. So, we'll be leaning on our task
[16:01] of solicitor a little bit more for
guidance on that one. But I just wanted
[16:04] to publicly announce that. I know the
board's aware it's more for the public's
[16:08] benefit at this point that we are aware
of the request for prologes and um it's
[16:14] obviously something that we've not
supported as a community and the board
[16:18] does not support and we will see how the
appeal process works.
[16:23] So that's that's it for my report.
Thank you. I was uh in contact with some
[16:29] people that have herds of goats and if
the grass didn't get mowed pretty soon,
[16:33] I was going to bring them over.
>> May save us a buck or two.
[16:37] » So yeah, thank you. And I've never seen
a 25page manager report yet. So we
[16:42] appreciate uh
>> 10 pages of espogist. So
[16:48] » okay, a treasures report. Mr. Shanderski
[16:53] » July monthly deposits were in the amount
of 1,430,000
[16:59] $128.
[17:03] Expenditures
payroll for July 17th net $52,960.37
[17:14] gross $72,654.17.
[17:20] » May I have a motion to approve the July
17th gross payroll in the amount of
[17:24] $72,654.17?
[17:30] » So moved. Motion made by Miss Carl. May
I have a second?
[17:34] » Second.
>> Second made by Mr. Rayup. All in favor?
[17:39] » I.
>> Motion carries.
[17:42] Payroll for July 28th.
The net $2,91063.
[17:50] The gross $3,812.96.
[17:55] May I have a motion to approve the July
28th gross payroll in the amount of
[18:00] $3,812.96?
[18:05] » So move.
>> Motion made by Miss Carl. May I have a
[18:08] second?
>> Second.
[18:10] » Second by Mr. Rayup. Any questions? All
in favor?
[18:14] » I.
>> Motion carries.
[18:18] Payroll for August 7th, net $55,7263.
[18:27] Gross was $75,3261.
[18:34] » May I have a motion to approve the
August 7th gross payroll in the amount
[18:38] of $75,3261?
[18:44] » So moved.
>> Motion made by Mrs. Carl, may I have a
[18:47] second?
>> Second.
[18:49] » Second by Mr. Rayup. Any questions? All
in favor?
[18:54] » I.
>> Motion carries.
[18:57] » Payroll for August 11th. Net $1,164.88,
[19:05] gross $1,55016.
[19:10] I have a motion to approve the August
11th gross payroll in the amount of
[19:16] $1,550
and 2016.
[19:21] » So move.
>> Motion made by Miss Carl. May I have a
[19:24] second?
>> Second.
[19:26] » Second by Mr. Rayup. Any questions?
All in favor?
[19:32] » Motion carries.
Vouchers prepaid via paper check, AC
[19:38] transfers, and vendor sites for July.
We're in the amount of $428,444.
[19:50] » I have a motion to approve the July
vouchers in the amount of $428,444.
[20:00] » So move.
>> Motion made by Mrs. Carl, may I have a
[20:04] second?
>> Second.
[20:06] » Second by Mr. Miller. Any questions?
All in favor?
[20:12] » Motion carries.
Um,
[20:17] Mr. Shandurki, do you want to explain
the
[20:24] all of the in kind of inconsistencies
with the the payrolls?
[20:32] Well, real quick, there were some
questions by a resident.
[20:36] » Yeah, and I might need some help on the
details, but as I understand it, there
[20:40] were some
anomalies recently.
[20:44] One was a glitch in the in the system
and then there were some uh temporary
[20:51] people. I think there were four people.
That's correct.
[20:55] » For the first time to the second.
>> Okay. that u there was some delay in
[21:01] getting that information forwarded.
So uh the details of the of the dollar
[21:07] amount I don't have in front of me but I
believe they've all been corrected at
[21:13] this point uh and any corrections that
will be needed for these numbers will be
[21:20] done in the following meetings.
>> That's correct.
[21:25] » Thank you.
Uh old business, there is none.
[21:31] Moving on to zoning and planning. Uh
financial security adjustment number one
[21:38] for Dan Snow,
607 Walnut Avenue storm water management
[21:44] plan in the amount of $7,26
[21:48] leaving a balance of $8,97
[21:53] as reviewed by HRG. May I have a motion
to approve the financial security
[21:59] adjustment?
>> Motion made by Mr. Miller. May I have a
[22:04] second?
>> Second.
[22:06] » Second by Mr. Shanderski. Any questions?
All in favor?
[22:12] » I.
>> Motion carries.
[22:16] Financial security adjustment number one
for Mayberry phases three and four in
[22:21] the amount of $1,191.
[22:28] Let me say that again. 1,191,130,
[22:33] leaving a balance of
$499,693
[22:39] as reviewed by HRG. May I have a motion
to approve the financial security
[22:45] adjustment?
>> So moved.
[22:47] » Motion made by Mrs. Carl. May I have a
second?
[22:50] » Second.
>> Second by Mr. Shanderski. Any questions?
[22:56] All in favor?
>> I.
[22:58] » Motion carries.
Financial security adjustment number two
[23:03] for the Goodard property 7308
Sandy Holler Road in the amount of
[23:09] $1,811
leaving a balance of $1,815
[23:17] as approved by HRG. May I have a motion
to approve the financial security
[23:23] adjustment?
>> So move.
[23:26] » Motion made by Mrs. Carl. May I have a
second?
[23:30] » Second.
>> Seconded by Mr. Shanderski. Any
[23:33] questions?
All in favor?
[23:37] » I.
>> Motion carries.
[23:40] New business.
We have some new titles for Mr. Don
[23:45] Holmes. now
parks and wreck and
[23:52] facility director
and uh Mr. Dave Werton now public works
[23:59] director
[24:03] oh Mr. chair. Yeah, this [laughter]
[24:07] [applause]
I just I wanted I I've had discussions
[24:11] with you all about this, but this is a
reflection of both of them taking on
[24:16] additional responsibilities and the
titles actually reflect the work that
[24:19] they are doing. Um they both have been
doing an outstanding job for the
[24:24] township. Um they are my both of my
right-hand man in terms of getting stuff
[24:29] done. They both run a tight ship with
their staff. uh and they are really
[24:34] doing more than in the past what their
positions had called for. Um Donniey's
[24:39] basically taken over responsibility not
just for the community center but for
[24:43] all of our buildings in the township now
and taking on all of the new maintenance
[24:47] responsibilities for this building which
is pretty substantial. And he's kind of
[24:52] tackled that with a lot of gusto and
Dave is taking on a lot more work than
[24:57] just being the road master anymore. He
is truly in charge of construction
[25:02] projects in the township and we're going
to be putting things out to bid and
[25:06] doing things that have not been done uh
before the township. And so the title
[25:11] title is really befolded of the role
that he's providing for the township and
[25:16] the job he's doing. Uh they are both
just outstanding employees for the
[25:20] township.
[25:23] [applause]
[25:27] » Thank you both for what you do.
I would just like to add a comment if
[25:31] Okay, Mr. Chairman.
>> I I think uh reflects highly on
[25:36] yourselves and of the township. I think
uh the staff in general here is
[25:43] is amazing and I haven't found anybody
that's not willing to lend a hand or
[25:49] take on new work. So,
you deserve the titles. uh and I think
[25:55] it is representative of uh the work that
is being done by the employees here in
[26:01] the township.
>> I would agree.
[26:07] » Same here.
>> And as a facility director, uh we might
[26:13] need a new bookshelf at the public
works. [laughter]
[26:19] May I have a motion
[26:22] » now? Hold on. May I have a motion to
change Don Holm's job title to parks and
[26:28] recck director and facilities director?
>> Motion made by Mr. Miller. May I have a
[26:34] second?
>> Second.
[26:36] » Second by Mrs. Carl. Any questions? All
in favor?
[26:40] » I.
>> Motion carries. Congratulations.
[26:46] May I have a motion to change Dave
Werton's job title to public works
[26:51] director?
So moved.
[26:54] » Motion made by Mr. Shanderski. May I
have a second? Second.
[26:58] » Second by Mr. Miller. Any questions?
>> All in favor?
[27:03] » Motion carries. Congratulations
and good luck.
[27:18] Change order for West Hanover Township
Municipal Complex project number A G
[27:24] C-019
[27:28] ECI construction for general conditions
cost incurred related to delay with the
[27:36] SIP panels and structural wood beams in
the amount of 145,100
[27:43] $71.
May I have a motion to approve the
[27:47] change order for ECI construction for
general conditions cost incurred
[27:52] relating to the delay with the SIP
panels
[27:56] and structural wood beams in the amount
of $145,171.
[28:03] » So moved.
>> Motion by Mrs. Carl. May I have a
[28:07] second?
>> Second.
[28:10] » Second by Mr. Miller. Any questions?
[28:16] All in favor?
>> I.
[28:19] » Motion carries.
>> Architectural services for the West
[28:24] Hanover Township Municipal Complex
project.
[28:29] Discussion on terminating Kimmel Bret's
agreement dated June 3rd, 2023 due to
[28:36] poor performance and cost overruns.
May I have a motion to terminate
[28:43] for the cause of design contract with
Kimmel regret dated June 3rd, 2023 due
[28:51] to poor performance issues and cost
overruns.
[28:55] » So move
>> motion made by Mrs. Carl. May I have a
[28:59] second?
>> Second.
[29:01] » That was a tie.
[29:04] [laughter]
>> Second by Mr. Rayup. Any questions? Mr.
[29:09] Chair, I'll just if I can elaborate real
quick on that one. So, the ECI change
[29:14] order that you just approved for
$145,171
[29:19] was one of the things that our architect
is directly responsible for and cause
[29:23] for this township. Um, so we are going
to be
[29:28] I'm working on a letter of finding that
we will be applying towards our
[29:32] architect with that those cost issues
and some of the other performance issues
[29:35] that occurred for the project. But the
ECI supporting letter that they wrote
[29:40] really kind of encapsulates all the
issues in a very clear and succinct
[29:45] format. So that what they provide you
with their change request at two page
[29:50] one really explains things. I'll just
read two sections of it real quick. Uh,