1 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,240 You're live recording. 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:16,160 » We're recording. So, we're going to try this again. So, welcome to the committee 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:21,600 of the whole Tuesday, June 9th, and it's 6:11 p.m. And I'll just for the record, 4 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:25,840 we had some technical difficulties, so we are not live streaming, but it will 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:32,800 be recorded. Um just note that all counselors are are 6 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:38,399 present. So we have quorum approval of the agenda including 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:42,640 additions or deletions. Now I thought we were going to have an addition. We do 8 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:50,719 not but I am going to make some changes council. So presentation 7B Windsor 9 00:00:47,440 --> 00:01:00,640 Plains Culture Association request has been taken off as per their request. 10 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:05,119 Um as well new business 11B the Troathic Creek Marsh request for direction is 11 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:12,240 going to be moved to council in two weeks time. 12 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:17,920 And then the other change I have is 11C, the waste collection pilot program cozy 13 00:01:15,119 --> 00:01:23,759 crescent and destination way decision a request report brought by myself. We're 14 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:27,880 going to move it up to eight under unfinished business. 15 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:39,200 So those are the three changes I had. Now we did have a re information report 16 00:01:33,759 --> 00:01:44,159 that was just received about 5 to 5. So, we don't normally add them on. It's an 17 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:48,560 information we can, it's up to council. We'll have to take a vote on it. Um, put 18 00:01:46,479 --> 00:01:52,640 it at the end of new business, but there'd be no discussion on it or it can 19 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:56,000 be brought at council in two weeks time. Councelor Ivy. 20 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:59,200 » So, given how late uh the update I the first version I sent us, any of you 21 00:01:57,759 --> 00:02:02,880 would have seen that I'd made some typos and it just needed to be fixed. Last 22 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:07,119 thing I want to do is report of clarity and create more confusion because so I'm 23 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:10,319 fine with carrying it forward. Okay. >> Um, you know, if there was only one 24 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:13,440 person that didn't have a chance and that's enough for me to say we'll carry 25 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:17,520 it forward and I'll just It'll probably be two parts though. I'll do a one on 26 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:22,160 this issue of Desim and two on the other piece. But I'm glad 27 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:27,840 » we will move we'll leave it as is. So for the three changes that I have made, 28 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:32,480 uh, council uh, clerk, do we need a motion for those three? Just I just move 29 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:38,000 them around and delete it too. I no >> consent. Consent. 30 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:42,160 » Okay. So, is everyone consent to those three changes I've made? I'm seeing 31 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:45,920 nodding head counts. >> Question. You said five to five. I just 32 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:51,040 don't see a report that I've received. So, I just wanted to make sure. 33 00:02:49,519 --> 00:02:57,360 » Yeah, it was late. You'll see it in your email thread. It's on the um 34 00:02:54,959 --> 00:03:04,000 » but it might I'll check. Thank you. >> Okay. So, we do have a new agenda. So, 35 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:07,440 announcements. I will start when Hance regional municipality acknowledges that 36 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:11,680 we are Mikmagi the ancestral and unseeded territory of the Mikmma people 37 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:16,560 and that this land is governed by the treaties of peace and friendship since 38 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:20,959 signed in 1726. West Hance Regional M municipality recognizes that we are all 39 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:25,599 treaty people and have responsibilities to this land and each other. West Hans 40 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:29,200 Regional Municipality recognizes African Nova Scotians are a distinct people 41 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:34,000 whose history, legacies, and contributions have rich the part of 42 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:37,000 MCMagi known as Nova Scotia for over 400 years. 43 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:43,040 Pardon? Oh, sorry. I'll do the announcements and 44 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:47,200 then I'll get back to that one. I skipped one. Council and I as chair are 45 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,640 committed to ensuring this meeting and its participants conduct themselves in a 46 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:55,680 respectful and professional manner as outlined in the municipality's municipal 47 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:59,840 code of conduct. Meeting presenters, staff, and the public are expected to 48 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:04,080 always conduct themselves in an equally respectful manner while the meeting is 49 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:08,080 being conducted. I thank you all in advance for your commitment to these 50 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:12,560 important meeting principles. And lastly, we have a full house here. If we 51 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:18,400 need to leave the building due to a fire or another emergency, exits are found to 52 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:23,040 the right towards the back and the room and the left hand side. Um the muster 53 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:28,320 station is in the staff parking lot on the left. And I would like to ask 54 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:34,720 councelor Paul Weaten be the last person out and check that the washrooms are 55 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:38,639 empty. Okay. And I did skip. Does anyone have a conflict of interest this 56 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:43,040 evening? Council >> on the grant portion. I need to declare 57 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:48,479 a conflict on the Windsor Daycare request because I'm on the board. 58 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:53,000 » Councelor Bonnie Smith for the Windsor Daycare. Is there anyone else? 59 00:04:53,280 --> 00:05:02,880 Okay, we will do that one separately when we get there. Thank you. 60 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:07,440 Okay. Approval of previous me meeting minutes 2026512 61 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:13,919 committee of the whole minutes they were circulated in our package. So 62 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:19,440 is there anything anyone wants to discuss or any errors? If not they will 63 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:24,560 be approved as submitted. Seeing no lights so they will be approved. Moving 64 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,720 right along to presentations and I'm going to turn this over to Mayor Zabian. 65 00:05:26,479 --> 00:05:33,680 We have a couple presentations tonight. So, I'll let you take the 66 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:39,520 » Absolutely. Thank you so much, Chair Deputy Francis. Um, tonight folks, we 67 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:44,400 have uh two really very special presentations to three individuals here 68 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:48,960 within West Hands. Um, the first one I'm going to get the the Muhammad family if 69 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,960 you guys want to come on up here to the front. 70 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:02,400 So, just pardon my my sitting down, folks. So, I'm going to try to speak 71 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:08,319 into the mic as I as I do this. So, uh I want to introduce everybody here to uh 72 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:12,960 to Rayan who is a grade three student at the the three-mile plains uh district 73 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:18,960 school. His uh father Assroth and his beautiful mother and baby sister. Um so, 74 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:24,160 Ryan moved to uh New Nova Scotia here to West Hams February of of this year. So, 75 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:28,720 so newly minted Westers. Um 76 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:34,960 uh the welcoming inclusive uh environment uh in West Hans has enabled 77 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:40,479 uh Rayanne to attend an inclusive school uh and environment and uh allowed uh 78 00:06:38,319 --> 00:06:45,199 allowed Ryan to access community resource and actively participate in the 79 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,720 community life here. Since arriving in Canada, Ryan has become a passionate 80 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:53,520 advocate for accessibility and inclusion. Drawing from his own lived 81 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:56,800 experiences and barriers he's faced during his early childhood, he has 82 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:01,039 worked to raise awareness about challenges uh experienced by children 83 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:05,759 with disabilities and the importance of creating communities where everyone can 84 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:09,039 belong and thrive. through his advocacy efforts under the banner of the Rayanne 85 00:07:07,599 --> 00:07:13,440 Foundation and the support of organizations such as Inclusion Nova 86 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:17,120 Scotia and Nova Scotia League of Equal Opportunities in Easter Seals Nova 87 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:20,960 Scotia. Rayanne has helped promote greater awareness of accessibility 88 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:26,240 barriers and the practical steps that can be taken to remove them. In 2025, 89 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:31,039 Ryan was selected for a youth champion award as part of the Mel Heb hourglass 90 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:35,759 action award for access awareness week Nova Scotia for his outstanding work in 91 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:40,160 the community. Again, as I said earlier, Ryanne is just a grade three student 92 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:46,560 here at the Three-Mile Plains District School. Um, I was so excited to hear 93 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:52,800 this next bit though. Uh Ryanne has been named the 2026 Rick Hansen Foundation 94 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:58,520 School Program Difference Maker of the Year. It's a national recognition that 95 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,520 absolutely 96 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:09,039 it's a national recognition that celebrates his leadership and advocacy 97 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:13,680 for accessibility and inclusion. Ryanne is the only recipient here in Nova 98 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Scotia for this year. It's pretty big. Ryanne, we are proud to call you a 99 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:23,680 member of the West Hams family and your family as well. We're so proud of you 100 00:08:21,039 --> 00:08:29,000 and you're the epitome of inspiration. So, we have something here we'd like to 101 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,000 present to you 102 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:40,440 for promoting everything that you've done here within West Hands. 103 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,440 Congratulations. 104 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:57,360 Maybe you can sit. We can get sit. 105 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,800 » Yeah, >> we'll 106 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,120 end. >> There we go. 107 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:12,320 » There we go. Congratulations. Thank you so much. also loads. 108 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:15,920 » And we have a we have a goodie bag here as well filled with a couple of 109 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,120 different items for you guys to enjoy. >> Oh, thank you so much. I'm so happy to 110 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:22,399 make this in our new home. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. 111 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,200 » Going to I'm going to give you this as well. 112 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:30,040 » Sure. >> Anything you need? 113 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,040 » Absolutely. Pleasure to meet you. 114 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:45,839 » All right, folks. And our second uh uh recognition this evening, I'm going to 115 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:53,000 get uh Anthony and Jeff uh if you guys you gentlemen want to come up as well 116 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,000 and we'll get Mike up here as well. 117 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:03,839 So, as you as you all know folks, uh Anthony is the owner of Vader's 118 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:08,320 Excavation located here in West Hance and Jeff is a proud co-orker as well of 119 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:14,480 the company and a and a fellow West Hanser. Uh, I think we can all uh agree 120 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:19,920 that uh these two uh fellas up here are two very proud H County members uh who 121 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:24,000 in the true foundation of being a West Hanser would go above and beyond to the 122 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:29,040 end of Earth's existence to help someone in need regardless of the situation. 123 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:33,200 Anthony and Jeff were thrust into that situation back in early April, I 124 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:37,600 believe, of this year when uh they f suddenly found themselves on a in a 125 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:42,880 situation where a friend and co-orker suddenly went into distress. Anthony and 126 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:46,880 Jeff without hesitation began performing life-saving techniques on their friend 127 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:52,160 and coworker for over 8 minutes until emergency personnel arrived. Uh without 128 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:56,959 their heroic actions, the situation may have turned out very differently. and uh 129 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:02,079 as their friend and co-orker who's here tonight celebrating with us. Uh they are 130 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:08,079 the epitome of what inspiration and heroism here in West Hams is. So 131 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:18,160 congratulations fellas on everything you have done. We have two awards as well. 132 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:24,320 Thank you. So we have that one to Jeff and we have that one for Anthony there 133 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:26,160 guys. So thank you so much. You are Gentlemen, 134 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:31,440 » thank you very much. >> Heroes and this guy is the living 135 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:35,079 testament to that. We're gonna get a picture as well here. 136 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,959 » On three. Suck it in. 137 00:11:52,959 --> 00:11:56,120 Thank you. 138 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,240 » Back to you, Jer. >> Thank you. Well, that's a a tough one to 139 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:14,320 follow. Those are two great uh presentations and uh yeah, we're we're 140 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:19,279 pretty proud of our residents. So the next on the agenda is the waste 141 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:24,160 collection pilot program for Cozy Crescent and Destination Way. And uh 142 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:28,639 Mayor Zavia, I'm going to turn it over to you to chair the meeting. As I 143 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:33,279 brought this um forward, I just like to briefly speak on the report. 144 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:36,880 » Absolutely. So uh next on the agenda, as said, the waste collection pilot 145 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:41,279 program, Crosie Crescent, Destination Way. Deputy Mayor. 146 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:48,959 » Thank you, Mayor Zabian. So, we've all had um a chance, I'm sure, to read uh 147 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:54,800 what was in your package on Friday. Uh this is nothing new to us. This is 148 00:12:50,880 --> 00:13:00,480 brought to us a few times now. Um, I did have uh a resident reach out at one of 149 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:06,399 my public hearing meetings and I said we would bring this back and uh we tried at 150 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:10,560 budget with a couple things and uh a staff member brainstorming and I 151 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:14,959 appreciate and this is what we have come up with and I'm hoping that we can get 152 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:20,560 this uh through this evening. There are two recommendations in the package. I 153 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:25,920 think this is a unique uh situation. Uh we did see the photos the other day. The 154 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:30,880 only thing I do want to speak of is one that when I first saw the picture I was 155 00:13:27,839 --> 00:13:35,279 like oh darn one is that brought to me is was the compliance because some of 156 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:40,240 the garbage that was in that picture was not compliant when we're talking about 157 00:13:36,959 --> 00:13:45,440 pickup. So that is not going to that's going to have to you know we can make 158 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:50,480 the changes but as all residents we have to know we have to comply with TFL's 159 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:56,240 guidelines. So there's clear B um garbage bags, no black color garbage 160 00:13:52,480 --> 00:14:01,760 bags. We have we recycle, we compost. So I just don't want to lose sight of that 161 00:13:58,079 --> 00:14:06,320 as well because even if we go to um end of driveway, those things still need to 162 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:11,680 be I think this is a good pilot project, it will lead the way for us for larger 163 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:17,040 conversation for next budget cycle for other areas. Um so I will leave it at 164 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:22,880 that. I won't make the recommendation in case council does have questions on the 165 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:27,760 proposed uh recommendation that I've put forward. Thank you, Deputy Mayor. 166 00:14:25,519 --> 00:14:30,760 Questions council to deputy mayor on the report. 167 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:41,760 » Quite a bunch. Councelor Ivy, I'll weigh in. Um, one question that I 168 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:48,160 have uh through you um uh deputy mayor or mayor through sorry 169 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:52,079 through mayor to this is confusing you guys uh through the mayor to CEO you 170 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:57,199 when we'd uh discussed this previously CIO you'd referenced that uh we have no 171 00:14:54,240 --> 00:15:00,240 jurisdiction over private roads and we'd heard that and received that in an email 172 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:04,240 a couple of times earlier this year when the question came up about snow removal 173 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:07,839 and challenges with the same issue but it was pretty clear that we had no 174 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,240 jurisdiction iction over private roads has that changed 175 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:19,519 » I'm just trying to recall the discussion I mean generally private roads are just 176 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:24,240 that we we don't have that jurisdiction >> over their maintenance or their up you 177 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:29,279 know their upkeep or any any of that aspect of it. I think we have talked 178 00:15:27,199 --> 00:15:32,639 specifically about this particular road and standard and the dimensions and so 179 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:38,040 forth. >> But to answer your question around 180 00:15:34,079 --> 00:15:38,040 jurisdiction, we do not. 181 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:44,959 » So the jurisdiction has no bearing then on waste collection. Is that correct? 182 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:50,000 That we're able to go on to a private road to do waste collection whether 183 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:54,240 with with or without jurisdiction. And I'm just trying to get clarity on that 184 00:15:51,199 --> 00:15:58,320 cuz it the the time when you had uh answered this for us before it was snow 185 00:15:55,839 --> 00:16:02,399 removal. I think a snow removal issue um in Februaryish. Uh so maybe that was 186 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,600 something different. I don't know. I just want to know what the what the 187 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:10,079 intent of that was compared to what we have in front of us now. 188 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:14,320 » Um I mean I can think just for example uh outside of policy I can think of one 189 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:20,880 other situation where we do have a similar service on a private road. 190 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:25,759 So u it is something that we have done uh in one case and director of public 191 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,880 works is here as well and you can certainly comment not trying to put him 192 00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:33,279 on the spot but if I'm missing anything with respect to jurisdiction I believe 193 00:16:30,959 --> 00:16:39,759 we've spoken to our vendor uh our collection uh vendor on this and they 194 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:43,680 are prepared to provide that service of course with council's approval. 195 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:47,600 » Okay. Thank you. The other question I have is with regards to cost. is noted, 196 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:52,959 and I guess this would perhaps put this through to uh Deputy Mayor 197 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:58,320 Francis, I think. Um the cost is quoted in here at $6,500. 198 00:16:55,199 --> 00:17:05,039 Um but it's also noted that there's 147 uh private roads. Uh and my question is, 199 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:09,360 do those 147 all qualify? In other words, as we open up uh the door on 200 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:15,280 this, does that begin the opening of of the door on the other 147? Uh, and would 201 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:18,319 that also be at $6,500 if you know that or if you want to 202 00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:23,360 redirect it? >> I just want to comment that this is a 203 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:28,480 pilot program just for these two private roads. So, this this amount is just 204 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:32,080 reaffirring to those two public roads. We're not looking at the other ones. 205 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:39,360 This is a pilot project to get us through this year for possibly a broader 206 00:17:35,679 --> 00:17:44,080 conversation for public roads. >> Yes. I can tell you the the position 207 00:17:41,679 --> 00:17:49,200 that I see on this though is we can do a trial on two, but the trial on two opens 208 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:53,520 the door up to um all the others that exist. And so um I appreciate the 209 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:59,200 distinction in bringing this back back to council, but um I don't know how we 210 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:03,440 do a trial on two, it's successful, and then to take into account that the cost 211 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:07,520 of 6,500 for uh the roads that we're dealing with here tonight. Um, if that 212 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:12,000 goes across all 147, that's a substantially different number than 65. 213 00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:17,039 I don't want to be uh speaking negative on. I just want to know where that takes 214 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:21,600 us uh financially. >> That beer, 215 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:25,679 » I'm just thinking maybe our director of public works may be able to clarify that 216 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,960 a little bit. >> I just want to add council that uh I 217 00:18:27,679 --> 00:18:33,280 think this was brought forward again. It's it's it's a unique situation. So, 218 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:37,440 as as noted, we have many private roads here within West Hance. Uh, the 219 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:43,280 overwhelming majority have a dedicated space 220 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:47,600 or garbage bins or community bins, spaces where people can go and drop off 221 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:52,720 their their their waste and recyclables. Uh, this this unique situation doesn't 222 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:56,080 provide for that space. I think that's why it's here before council again. So, 223 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:01,840 a little bit different than the majority of the Brother private roads, but I'll 224 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:05,200 give the the uh question back to staff. 225 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:10,720 » Thank you, mayor. So, so just a couple things for for clarity. Um, so staff's 226 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:14,960 recommendation is um absolutely curbside collection on private roads would be 227 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:19,200 beneficial for for many of the reasons and and many of the reasons that the 228 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:25,200 deputy mayor mentioned earlier. Um, and some of the issues that the uh councelor 229 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:31,679 Ivy brought up. Um our recommendation is uh we do support the recommendation, but 230 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:36,559 we would like to add um applicable to adopt the policy that was circulated uh 231 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:41,039 to council uh and applicable to the pilot program because that does 232 00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:46,480 reference snow and ice control um if the road was let to you know go to you know 233 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:52,559 severe ruting or potholes. It certainly gives us um justification when when 234 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:56,640 called uh and to deal with any concerns because it's it's in that policy. It's 235 00:19:54,480 --> 00:20:01,360 only a policy, but uh it would certainly benefit staff and we get calls. And then 236 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:05,840 if it's just the pilot program, you can make it applicable just for the pilot 237 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:10,080 program. So it we don't have jurisdiction on private roads, but if we 238 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:14,720 adopt the policy, we have jurisdiction to stop curbside collection if it 239 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:20,320 doesn't meet the policy. the policy is quite clear and then if the pilot does 240 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:26,559 work um the policy can be adopted for for other roads because essentially 241 00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:30,799 destination way uh and cozy crescent meets all the uh requirements in the 242 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:35,679 policy currently and they also had a petition so they also meet that so so 243 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,480 it's quite clear and it uh so that's that would be our suggestion if you 244 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:43,000 could just adopt the policy as applicable to to the pilot program 245 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:53,039 and we did have some if you if you like we did have some updated pricing. Um 246 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:59,200 Jenny reached out to uh GFL um and they are able to uh adopt the 247 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:04,320 Windsor pricing which is a a bit less per stop for this this this location. 248 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:09,200 They said they would have no issues. Um I think they would like a policy for for 249 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:14,799 them for backup uh and no issues implementing that uh quite quite rapidly 250 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:20,000 if we can adopt the policy. And it's about 30 251 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:26,880 3,400ish per year for the uh for the pilot program. So additional cost. So uh 252 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:29,840 it's uh a bit reduced than our last uh uh quote we received to them, but it 253 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:34,960 sounds like you know they're willing to try this pilot too. 254 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:40,720 Okay. Councelor John Smith. 255 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:44,720 » Thank you. Your worship. So, uh, we've gotten a lot of information on this over 256 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:49,600 the last two years and and, uh, I agree. I do think it's a very unique situation. 257 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:53,840 So, um, I think I have everything I need. I would support this. Um, I think 258 00:21:52,159 --> 00:21:58,559 it's time. Thanks, >> Councelor Kaylor Liry Pinch. 259 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:02,080 So I think we all know around this table that uh I've brought a report forwards a 260 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:06,559 couple of times on this particular issue. Um very similar thank you to 261 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:11,039 deputy mayor for uh for bringing this forwards again for further discussion. 262 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:17,440 So it's an ongoing issue. Uh it's a very unique issue as the mayor suggested that 263 00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:21,039 we see to to this development. Um I know uh when we look at other private roads, 264 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:25,120 you know, just kind of in comment uh they're not built to the same standard, 265 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:31,039 at least those, uh private developments within my uh district. Uh the roads as a 266 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:34,240 total, so all of the side roads and the full subdivision is not built to the 267 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:38,320 standard. Whereas in this particular situation, it is a small subdivision and 268 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:42,320 all of the roads are are built to that spec so that it would be comfortable um 269 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:46,000 for GFL to be able to pick it up. which is why, you know, understandably they 270 00:22:44,159 --> 00:22:49,760 have been pretty accepting to be able to do that at the additional cost. And I 271 00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:55,520 think uh especially with the new price point being $3500, 272 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:59,840 um that's pretty tricky to say no to that because if we're looking at uh 273 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:03,760 dumpsters and such not, we may get into um additional issues along with, you 274 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:08,960 know, waste management that staff kind of get a lot of um concerns as well uh 275 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:13,039 on top of council. So if we think about the amount of contacts um that I know I 276 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,400 get just specifically for this particular area with waste collection 277 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:20,320 and then we look at the fact that staff probably get just as many if not more of 278 00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:26,000 those same contacts like the time consumption and staff time is probably 279 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:32,159 costing us more than $3,500. >> Councelor Palmer 280 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:37,880 Todd put you on the spot now. So how many rows meet specs? Is it 21 or 22 in 281 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,880 total? 282 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,440 So we'll find >> that 283 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:59,760 » that would meet expect for pickup >> roads in general or those just 284 00:23:57,919 --> 00:24:08,400 » private roads. I think out of all of them we have 285 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:13,360 » so we have 146 private roads in in WHRM um 21 of those would be eligible for 286 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:17,039 curbside collection. So these 21 private roads contain contain roughly 338 units. 287 00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:20,159 So >> it's in 2024. 288 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:25,039 » Yeah. So again and speaking to the policy um and councelor Liry Pinch 289 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:30,320 brought it up not all private roads may want curbside collection. So that's why 290 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:34,000 we have the uh the petition process and you need so many residents on that 291 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:38,559 street that would actually want it because if the large portion do not want 292 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:42,400 it uh there's no sense us paying for curbside collection. So so that's again 293 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:46,400 just speaking to that policy and the importance of uh adopting that policy 294 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:52,159 before we do curbside collection on private roads. So it is um you know a 295 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:56,320 vast majority of the private roads would not meet our private road standard for 296 00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:01,039 curbside collection to put a heavy garbage truck on those roads. 297 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:05,279 » I just wanted to make sure it was 2122 because I remember the number. I just 298 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:07,840 wanted to be 121. >> Councelor Larry Vench. 299 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:13,440 » Thank you through you chair to director Rashard just as a followup to um clarify 300 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,039 on the private road collection policy. I know originally when staff had brought 301 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:20,480 it forward previously, we were presented like there were a couple of options and 302 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:26,159 I think there was some hesitation on purchasing specialized equipment 303 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:30,080 attached to that policy. Um and perhaps and I I cannot speak for council but 304 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:36,480 just from what I recall um less hesitation on that policy existing if it 305 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:40,559 w were only to include um those developments which could fully be 306 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:44,640 serviced by the current equipment that GFL uses without specialized equipment. 307 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:48,960 Is that what the policy that you're recommending moves for? No. Okay. 308 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:54,080 » No, that that was in reference to say council wanted to do all private roads, 309 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:57,760 all 146, um we would need, you know, a smaller track. So, with the 21 310 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:02,559 applicable that would meet our road standard, um they can be serviced by the 311 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:06,799 tandem tanned garbage truck. >> Thank you, Deputy Mayor. 312 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:13,760 » Thank you. Well, thank you, Director Rashard. So, the 65 is 66 has gone to 313 00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:18,559 3,400. So that's a good thing. So we can update that. And would it be possible 314 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:22,720 where the discussion hasn't been on the private road policy that if we could 315 00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:30,080 just I could add into this motion before it's read that it meets the criteria 316 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:35,039 criteria of the private road policy and then for these two roads. Would that I 317 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:39,360 think council would I would feel better doing it that way. Um and then we're 318 00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:43,440 just covered with these two roads for now. It's a pilot project and then if 319 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,799 it's successful we can look at it at a later date for the the private road 320 00:26:45,679 --> 00:26:50,880 policy. >> Yeah. Yeah. Sure. My suggestion was you 321 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:54,080 know to this pilot program. So it's only the policy applicable to the pilot 322 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:58,799 program. So you're not looking at any other roads. It's just the three stated 323 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:03,279 in the uh the recommendation. So so we have that policy in case you know 324 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:07,200 something happens within that uh development. So 325 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:10,799 » Okay. Great. Uh councelor Paul Weeden. >> Yes. Thank you mayor. Um, I just wanted 326 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:14,559 to make a comment. Thank you, Deputy Mayor, for bringing this forward. Uh, as 327 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:18,640 council knows, my district has another, uh, development, the Forest Lakes 328 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:24,159 development that is, uh, quite similar. Uh, but they do have a dumpster. Um, and 329 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:27,520 the Cozy Crescent does not. So, I'm very much behind this to get this pilot 330 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:31,919 program going. And, uh, I think it's a reasonable price. It's, um, better price 331 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:36,080 than we had at budget time. So, uh, I'm all for it. Get it started and then, as 332 00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:40,640 Deputy mayor has said, uh, in January, we can look at bringing on other roads. 333 00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:43,679 So 100% behind it. >> Councelor Ivy. 334 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:49,679 » Yeah. Thank you, Chair. I'd like to get clarity on the 3,400. Um you said it 335 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:53,600 would be um uh akin to uh what we have with the Windsor rate and the 3,400 336 00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:57,919 that's half of what uh exists here. And if you bring on the other 21 and that 337 00:27:55,679 --> 00:28:02,000 cuts the cost even more. But uh it's just to know is the 3,400 solely for the 338 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:06,080 pilot the way it reads in the motion is that it is and what would we expect that 339 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:10,720 cost to be assuming the pilot is successful? 340 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,480 So, so the prices were based on uh the residents that are built out now. So, we 341 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:19,679 just based on units in the that subdivision currently uh on the unit 342 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:24,640 rate and we just did the equation and that uh that figure is before taxes. So, 343 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:29,919 so total for all those three streams um for the year because there's currently 344 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:35,600 17 homes on Destination Way, six on Cozy Crescent, and we're showing one on Moon 345 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:43,840 Shadow Run. So that adds up to uh the monthly cost and a yearly cost per home 346 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:48,320 is that uh for all homes is 34 $3,369.60 was the quote provided by GFL. 347 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:54,514 » I'm sorry. How many homes was that? >> Uh 24 homes total. 348 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,514 » Okay. [clears throat] 349 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,919 » All right. To the question of the rate going 350 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,880 forward not established at this point in time. this rate is solely for the pilot 351 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,320 project. >> So, correct. That's excellent point. So, 352 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,000 right, it's a contract. So, that's their quote that we'll add on. So, you know, 353 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:14,399 there's no guarantee once the contract comes up again when that expires. Um, 354 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:19,039 you know, it's kind of a price per stop. So, but that's that's with any stop 355 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:23,679 within our current contract. So, that's just the added quote to provide the 356 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,880 service for this subdivision based on the pilot program for the 357 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:31,440 recommendation. So, >> so just to be clear if I could just for 358 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:36,480 the pilot project not for the contract term that we have presently with GFL 359 00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:40,720 which goes beyond the pilot project as it's currently envisaged. Am I correct 360 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:46,240 in state stating that back to you or >> we had we asked for a yearly cost. So 361 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,640 that's that's the price they gave us. >> Okay. 362 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,760 » And we we did that yesterday. So it was quite quick turnaround. So yeah, we 363 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,799 could certainly follow up with the contractor but 364 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:58,799 » just wanting to know what the parameters are. So, a year from now, we're not 365 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:03,440 redising or debating what it is that we were told tonight. So, thank you. 366 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,720 » Perfect. Seeing no more lights, we can enter. Oh, one more light. Yeah. 367 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:11,039 » I have one more question for you. So, that's for 24 houses. There are houses 368 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:15,919 currently being built there, but you got to add on to that as well. 369 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:19,120 » And is that added into the equation that you gave us? 370 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:24,080 » So, so, so if there's three more houses, the cost per house is $11.70. 371 00:30:22,399 --> 00:30:27,120 So, I think we would have, you know, some allocation in our budget if, you 372 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,399 know, three or four houses did get built. So, I think we're we're 373 00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:34,159 comfortable with that price for operating cost. 374 00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:39,279 » I hope there's 100 more houses. The the math makes sense to us, folks. Uh, I'll 375 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,600 take a motion right now. If you want to entertain it, 376 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,880 I'll take one more comment. >> It wasn't a comment. So, if deputy mayor 377 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:50,880 wants to motion. 378 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:57,440 » Yep. Yep. I can read it. I'm going to add in the criteria for the public the 379 00:30:53,440 --> 00:31:01,520 private road policy. Is that okay? Okay. >> Okay. Committee of the whole recommends 380 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:06,720 that council direct staff to implement a curbside waste collection pilot programs 381 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:12,720 specific to specific to destination way and cozy crescent in vaugh for a period 382 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:19,919 of one year commencing July 1st 2026 until June 30th 2027 for amount up to 383 00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:24,720 34,000 3,400. Sorry, we would have did them 384 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:30,320 all. And fund it through the regional operating reserve meeting the criteria 385 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:34,399 in the private road policy. >> Moved by Deputy Mayor Francis, seconded 386 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:38,480 by councelor Larry Pinch. Discussion on the motion. 387 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:43,440 All right. All those in favor signify by hands up. 388 00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:50,000 Opposed to oppose. Councelor Yiani. Motion is 389 00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:53,600 passed. We do have a second part there, folks. If you want to put that one on 390 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,720 the table. Deputy Mayor >> Council directs staff to report back to 391 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:04,159 council with findings by January 2027 prior to 2027 28 budget deliberations, 392 00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:08,559 including costs, impacts, and recommendations for a future policy 393 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:13,600 regarding private road servicing for the 2027 28 budget considerations. Move 394 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,679 » by Deputy Mayor Francis, seconded by Councelor Larry Pinch. Discussion on 395 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:21,120 that motion. All right. All those in favor signify by 396 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:25,120 hands up. Opposed. Motion's pass unanimous. Thank 397 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:30,159 you very much everybody. Thank you so much W. Francis. Back to you. 398 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:35,519 » Okay. Thank you. So we're going to move on to nine report CAO activity update 399 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:40,559 information report. >> Thank you madam chair. I will hit some 400 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:45,200 of the highlights. Um the report is in your package. Uh pension and benefit 401 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:50,559 committee. Yeah, this uh discussion has originated here at the council table but 402 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:55,039 has kind of uh moved into the staff environment and as previously reported 403 00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:59,840 uh the pension and administration of the pension is an administrative function. 404 00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:06,000 Uh the results of our survey and feedback from staff. Um 405 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:09,679 so uh a little clarity on the union. I may have mentioned this before. Members 406 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:13,039 of the local QP uh it's in the collective agreement that they have uh 407 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,120 they would have to approve any amendments to the pension that would 408 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:23,360 affect their members and then the balance of u of non-unized staff can be 409 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:29,200 administered uh I guess without that same requirement. Uh we did survey all 410 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:35,279 of staff as noted in the report. We had 86 responses. 55 of the employees wish 411 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:41,679 to have the flexibility. 31 employees answered no. So, a majority of the staff 412 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:46,320 were in in favor of that flexibility. Uh back to the union. Uh the union and 413 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:51,679 there's not necessarily a correlation between the responses. We didn't we 414 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:56,559 didn't uh ask if you were union or not within the survey, but the result of the 415 00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:01,360 union discussion at within their local environment was that they were not in 416 00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:05,200 favor. So essentially under the authority of the collective agreement, 417 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:10,720 they have the right to say no. They have said no. So all unionized people will be 418 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:16,000 maintaining the current status quo which is nine and nine as a requirement. 419 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:21,119 uh the balance of staff were influenced by the pension and benefits committee 420 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:26,720 who represent the totality of staff or at least departmental representation. 421 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:32,000 They voted in favor of the flexibility. Um as a member, I can only speak for 422 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:35,919 myself. I was reflecting on the survey. So if this is kind of what staff are 423 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:43,119 looking for, then I think this is something uh that I had voted on as one 424 00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:48,560 voting member to support. So, uh, the majority of that group, uh, voted in 425 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:52,159 favor of that. So, the end result is that non-unionized voters will stay 426 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,599 where they're at, or sorry, unionized folks will stay where they're at and 427 00:34:53,359 --> 00:35:00,480 non-unionized will have the flexibility between six and 9% 428 00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:05,359 um, in the pension contribution as we've discussed here. Now, the little uh, 429 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:09,680 details around the administration, I think generally we landed on this is an 430 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:15,119 annual thing. So you need to tell us at the start of the year and then you will 431 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:20,160 be in whatever bracket you pick nine from six to 9% matched by the employer. 432 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,920 Well that's the outcome and for the most part we may have some administrative 433 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:31,119 process ahead of us but that's the outcome of that process. Okay. 434 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:35,359 » Okay. Um, just a reminder of the Advent High School graduation ceremony, 435 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:39,839 uh, the library, just really for the record, it's been well recorded and 436 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:44,720 documented. So, I won't go any in great detail, but I did include it in my 437 00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:48,400 report. Uh, just a few highlights there. I know information that you're aware of 438 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:52,800 and that we've shared in the last week or so. So, that's in the report for you 439 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:58,000 to reflect or for you to reference if need be. uh the Valley Regional 440 00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:03,040 Enterprise uh network and the liaison and oversight committee met on May 28th 441 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:07,760 and generally they're looking at a a remodeling of the funding where they're 442 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:15,200 looking at private membership options and uh to try to uh uh continue with the 443 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:19,520 funding required to continue to operate. Um so there's some updates on that and a 444 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:24,400 reminder that their AGM is scheduled for June 30th at the GlooCap Community 445 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:28,800 Center. I do forget the time, but I think it's probably out there somewhere. 446 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:33,280 Uh, under protective services, Staff Sergeant and I, uh, Staff Sergeant Nan 447 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:37,520 and I met on May 21st just to discuss the strategic review process for the 448 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:41,359 police advisory board. He's doing a little bit of data collection that will 449 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:45,839 help inform that process. And when we when he has that, we will schedule that 450 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:50,560 session with police advisory board. So, we're anticipating July or with the 451 00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:56,400 recess of October or of August. Maybe it will be in September but depends on his 452 00:36:52,880 --> 00:37:00,880 u his collection of that data. The two remaining are fire related and I have 453 00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:05,520 been asked I think deputy mayor you asked me the meeting started uh we have 454 00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:10,960 interviews scheduled next week for the director of fire services. So uh the 455 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:18,160 recruitment firm KDRs consulting helped facilitate the advertisement recruitment 456 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:22,480 and shortlisting and uh we again start interviews next week. So depending uh 457 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:25,520 our ability to land a successful candidate, hopefully we're able to move 458 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:33,920 forward with that in the very near future. And finally, uh Council Remy uh 459 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:39,599 Mlan and I uh met uh with BFD Service uh executive members to discuss the 2627 460 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:44,320 operating budget. I didn't note the date. May 20th, sorry. uh where Chief 461 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:48,960 Datanish and members of the committee just kind of went over both uh Brooklyn 462 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:55,359 and what we might call three-m lanes or VFD2 stations and their operations and 463 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:58,560 some of the challenges that um they have there and operating but I think 464 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:03,040 generally the feeling was they're okay for 2627 465 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:08,079 uh with a combination of our resources financial resources as well as 50/50 and 466 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:13,599 other adjustments they're making that they can operate uh at an acceptable 467 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:19,599 level, but that 27 28 may be a bit more challenging. And um and they as the 468 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:25,520 other chiefs have expressed concern over relying on the 50/50 funds uh ongoingly. 469 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:29,359 Again, it's a lot. It's a fundraising thing. Will it last, so to speak? So, 470 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,440 those are some highlights from my report, Madam Chair. Any other 471 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,359 questions? >> Great. Uh any questions for CEO? 472 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,960 Councelor Larry Pinch. >> Thank you through you, Chair. Just out 473 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:42,400 of curiosity, I know like we have no control over QB. Um, but do you think 474 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,400 that that's going to create some animosity that that staff who are 475 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:50,560 non-unized have the flexibility and staff that are unionized do or that it's 476 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:55,280 still a good move moving forwards even though it can only be applied to those 477 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:58,640 non-unized staff? >> Um, I don't think no. I mean, it was 478 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,560 their decision. >> So, they they decided, 479 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:06,800 » okay, they collected they voted among themselves and they decided they would 480 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:10,079 like to maintain status quo. >> Okay. Sorry, I didn't get that part. 481 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,119 » Yeah, I didn't say it. That's it. >> No, I just was looking at the breakdown 482 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:17,760 of employees and trying to figure out how that No. Okay. So, they decided 483 00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:21,119 Thank you. Perfect. >> How they voted in the survey. I don't 484 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:23,359 know. >> Yeah. 485 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:28,480 » But their membership voted on this particular item and decided status quo. 486 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:32,640 » Councelor Ivy. >> Yeah. Thank you, uh, Deputy Mayor, 487 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,119 Chair. Um, [clears throat] I guess my question is going to be a little bit 488 00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:40,079 angular to your update on the police advisory board uh through you to the 489 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:44,480 CEO. We've had the brief conversation or we uh dipped our toe in as it related to 490 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:49,359 general rating on uh RCMP services throughout West Hams during the budget 491 00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:53,280 cycle. I don't I don't think that specifically fits in here as part of 492 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:57,599 this, but I just want to ask when you're looking at what takes place as part of 493 00:39:55,119 --> 00:40:03,359 that strategic review with uh the advisory board and with RCMP, 494 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:08,640 uh is that an appropriate question to uh be broached as part of that process or 495 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:13,520 is that uh dealt with elsewhere? And and I don't want to presume uh cuz clearly 496 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:17,280 there's 12 of us around this table that to give you direction on that. Not. I'm 497 00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:22,560 just wanting to know when, where, how do we uh get to that topic as we're seven 498 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:26,000 years in. >> Personally, I I do believe that's a 499 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,119 council discussion. >> Sure. 500 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:33,119 » Um because the resource is not segregated in the way that the area rate 501 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,720 is applied, >> right? 502 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,880 » So the service doesn't see the boundaries. It's just our model. So I 503 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:43,680 would say that my opinion that's solely a council decision. 504 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:47,520 » So just uh to pair it back. So this discussion on strategy is solely related 505 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,359 to the functioning and structure of the police advisory board. Am I correct in 506 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,040 that? >> Probably to over summarize service 507 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,440 delivery and prioriti areas of prioritization 508 00:40:54,160 --> 00:41:01,359 » but not on costic. >> Yeah. And I think what the in a kind of 509 00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:06,160 a prequel is uh of course staff sergeant Nent has his mandate you know from each 510 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:11,040 division of the province but he does have the ability and is in fact is 511 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:14,720 encouraged to uh have his priorities also influenced by community feedback 512 00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:18,560 and it starts with police advisory board. So the police advisory board will 513 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:21,440 probably have a similar process to any of the other strategies that we have. 514 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,520 Although it's likely to be in-house where we have a public consultation 515 00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:29,920 about people's feeling about the service delivery and you know we'll hear I'm 516 00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:33,760 sure about speeding and trafficking and impairment enforcement and all the other 517 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:38,640 criminal activities. So it's more around service delivery and uh helping him set 518 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:43,119 his priorities uh for the year. 519 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:49,920 » That's great. Thank you. Seeing no more lights, we thank you for your update and 520 00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:56,880 we'll move right along to uh 9B water consumption ending March 2026 202526 521 00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:02,720 fiscal year. So, the consumption report was 522 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:10,760 in our package and I'm looking for 523 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:10,760 director Rashan is 524 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:17,079 director Rashard, we're going to be tag teamed. There we go. 525 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:25,440 Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, so this report has been circulated within your 526 00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:32,079 package. uh we are going to be tag teaming this as this report will slowly 527 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:36,079 transition into um the new report. Um so we'll speak about that a little bit in 528 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:39,040 at near the end of this presentation just because we do request some 529 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:46,319 direction at the end of this presentation. Um, so as part of the 530 00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:52,720 March 31st update, again, we're not showing a lot of consumption for Q4, 531 00:42:50,000 --> 00:43:00,400 obviously, because that gets build in April. Um, but however, we are still 532 00:42:55,359 --> 00:43:04,560 hovering around 61% of nonop variance in the Balkan water consumption. Um, and 533 00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:09,920 again, this is only representing the three mile plains and the Windsor area 534 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:16,560 for this quarter or for this month. Uh we and for year because this is our 535 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:21,760 annual report um we have 275 closed accounts this year which represents 536 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:28,240 about 6.52% of all accounts um in 2526 18 accounts in March were 537 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:33,680 closed and that also means that potentially 18 accounts were also opened 538 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:40,160 in March. Um throughout the whole year we did 29 adjustments and that is 0.69% 539 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:46,319 69%. So we're well below our threshold for adjustments for the year. Um with 540 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:50,560 one adjustment within March, we had two water main breaks which amounted to 541 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:57,599 about 295,000 Imperial gallons with 65,000 accounted 542 00:43:53,760 --> 00:44:01,680 for through fire flows in Hansport. Are there any questions regarding the 543 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:07,599 consumption report before we move into the next direction? 544 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:12,160 » Councelor Ivy. Yeah, thank you, chair. Um, appreciate the uh the information 545 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:16,880 and always have as it relates to this and I um I didn't I know I do have 546 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,000 thoughts about future report structure and style, but I didn't know that we'd 547 00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:23,280 be getting into that uh this evening. So, I may end up having follow up on 548 00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:29,599 that after. But I am curious though because we're into June um and the uh 549 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:34,560 the bulk meters would have been read, I would assume, by the end of March. So 550 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:38,240 what's the delay in getting that information 551 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:41,200 uh pulled forward like what's we don't have anything there for any of the bulk 552 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:43,440 meters which >> can you 553 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:48,640 » they were read >> but without the consumer meters it would 554 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,240 have created a large variance that wouldn't have given you very accurate 555 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,599 data. So we're going to input the bulk meter reads when we put the customer 556 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,079 reads in. >> Okay. 557 00:44:56,240 --> 00:45:04,160 » Yep. But they were read at the same time as the customer reads. Gotcha. Okay. 558 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:10,240 Thank you. >> Okay, seeing no more lights. 559 00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:16,800 » All right, perfect. Um, so Todd's uh team through the CT cte position, CCT 560 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:21,280 position, environmental technologist. 561 00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:25,200 Um so through our environmental 562 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:30,720 technologist we've been working on um report design right now and we are 563 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:36,079 really excited with uh what we have coming. Um it'll definitely be a more 564 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:42,000 holistic report. Um it'll show nonoperating water revenue um within the 565 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,119 other areas because currently this report that we've been presenting only 566 00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:50,079 shows the three-mile planes and Windsor area. So this will broaden it. It'll 567 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:54,800 expand it into Hansport and Falmouth. Um, it'll also have a lot more detailed 568 00:45:52,720 --> 00:46:00,319 information, some graph information and some information from the plants. So, 569 00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:04,960 it's really going to expand. However, as we get more accurate data, as we start 570 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:08,880 putting more information in this, it does 571 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:12,079 um push us more towards a quarterly report. And the only reason is is 572 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:17,119 because there's a lot of assumptions that would have to be made for a monthly 573 00:46:13,839 --> 00:46:22,319 report. Um, so we're requesting direction as we finalize the report for 574 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:29,040 the new year that we bring it back on a quarterly basis for council. 575 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:32,079 Okay. >> And if I could add just just on the 576 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:37,839 reporting, we're trying to model the port reporting after the AWA uh audit 577 00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:42,720 process. So that gives uh non-revenue water, unaccounted for water, and non 578 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:47,280 non-billable water. Um, and the reason we want to switch to the quarterly 579 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:52,079 report is because um, and you heard me say this before, as a consolidated 580 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:56,800 distribution system, now the the bulk water meters really have um, no bearing 581 00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:02,560 on this report. They're getting less and less um, useful data because we're 582 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:07,599 opening valves. Um, you'll see the bulk water meters going up in consumption and 583 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,359 that is related to opening valves um, interconnecting our systems between 584 00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:15,839 three mile planes and Windsor. Uh so some of these water main breaks um was 585 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,440 the water was being supplied to the the Windsor system through a bulk water 586 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:24,319 meter that never would have happened before because of a closed valve because 587 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:31,280 we have open valves now. So so again the bulk water uh meters are 588 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:35,280 essentially irrelevant and we're only reading the bulk water meters on a 589 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:40,480 monthly basis and it's irrelevant data and we're making assumptions on the uh 590 00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:46,960 the residential consumption data. So it really doesn't equate. So this this type 591 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:52,560 of uh reporting is is really it it it's it's useless information. So if we go to 592 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:58,400 a quarterly report um and having that modeled after the AWA audit process, 593 00:47:55,839 --> 00:48:02,800 we'll base it on blows leaving the uh the water treatment plants. And 594 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:06,160 currently this report only reflects the uh the Windsor system and the three-mile 595 00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:10,000 plane system. um you're getting no information on the 596 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:14,480 Hansport system or the Falmouth system. So, we're going to add those uh those 597 00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:17,839 other areas into this report based on what's leaving the plant, what we're 598 00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:23,200 getting for revenue water through our customers, what we're accounting for 599 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:27,440 through flushing um and known leakage, known flushing, and then the equation 600 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:32,640 for hydrant use, fire use, and water main breaks. So, it should provide uh 601 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:37,760 much more information and like uh the director said a more holistic reporting 602 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:41,440 structure. So, that's what we're that's what we're hoping that's what we're uh 603 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:45,520 suggesting that council adopts. Instead of a monthly report, we switch to a 604 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:50,319 quarterly report. >> And I will add too, this can be very 605 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:54,400 much treated as a pilot. you can wait and see what this first, second, third 606 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,480 quarter starts looking like, what the information you're getting, and then you 607 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:02,960 can decide at that point, too. If you'd like it more frequently, then we can try 608 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:08,480 and work out how that would work. Um, but I I do I have reviewed the templates 609 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:11,920 at this point, and they are going to be it's pretty exciting, and so I hope that 610 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:14,720 it would be better information that would serve you guys a little bit 611 00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:18,720 better. >> Sounds good. 612 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:24,240 Counselor Larry Pinch, did you have a question? did uh through you chair to 613 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:29,280 probably director Rashard. >> Um does that remove your requirement to 614 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,960 read the ball meters monthly if they're not really giving any accurate data and 615 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:37,200 you move to read them quarterly or no? You'll still read them monthly and it'll 616 00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:40,319 be inputed. We'll just receive the like individual customer meter reads 617 00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:43,839 quarterly. >> So, so the only requirement to read the 618 00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:48,720 bulk water meters now is the council motion to have these uh this monthly 619 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:53,040 report. Um the we don't charge. The only reason the bulk meter was the charging 620 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:57,200 between the three mile plains uh water utility and the Windsor water utility 621 00:49:55,119 --> 00:50:01,520 because Windsor water utility sold water to three mile plains. We're all one 622 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:06,720 consolidated utility now. So the bulk water meters are essentially useless. Uh 623 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:11,119 and they don't even serve as a district meter because because of the analysis 624 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:14,960 where we're opening valves. So it's not a closed system where that bulk meter 625 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:19,040 would have just registered a district a zone as we would call it. But now that 626 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:23,440 we open valves, we have more water circulating throughout the entire 627 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:27,200 system. Uh the bulk water meters don't don't present any value or add accurate 628 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:30,960 data. So >> okay. So they just if we move forward 629 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:34,400 with this, they just won't be read. >> Like I said, we should forget about the 630 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:38,079 bulk water meters. We'll transition to a district system at some point to monitor 631 00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:42,079 the flow of sewer system, but we'd like to have that real time. Um some of our 632 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:47,119 capital projects will have flow meters that are we're actually monitoring that 633 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:51,040 data in real time along with our pilot project through our canstrong meters. Um 634 00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:55,599 once our towers and our communications set up, we can actually pull that every 635 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:59,040 hour, every month, every week to see what that consumption is at each 636 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:03,760 individual unit that has those meters. So we'll at some point we'll have much 637 00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:08,800 more accurate data and able to pull that data much more uh reliably and in real 638 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:12,960 time. All right. Thank you, >> Councelor John Smith. 639 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:15,680 » Thank you. Your worship. So, the AWA >> AWA, 640 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,440 » AWWA, >> American Waterworks Association. Okay. 641 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,280 » There's an audit process that we go through every year to audit our 642 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,480 consumption. So, it's kind of modeled because we're providing that data into a 643 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,920 spreadsheet. >> Um, so we're collecting that anyway. 644 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:34,319 We'd like to transition this into our water consumption board to council. So, 645 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:39,119 do a lot of other towns and municipalities use that format? 646 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:42,480 » Uh, water certainly would some of the bigger 647 00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:47,119 utilities. Absolutely. They would adopt that. Um, we're actually required uh 648 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:50,720 through our uh >> regulatory and appeals board now. 649 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,559 » Yeah, for sure. >> Regulatory appeals board to to do that 650 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:59,839 AWA audit. So, >> okay. And um [clears throat] is there 651 00:51:57,119 --> 00:52:05,119 any possibility that the information would be up to date and online so that 652 00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:09,440 residents could look at it? >> Certainly maybe a transition um but we 653 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:13,839 are you know working through a new uh quarterly report hopefully. Um we could 654 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:17,680 post that online for for the customers to see. Yeah, we'll see why. 655 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,520 » Okay, thanks >> councelor Ivy. 656 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,960 » Yeah, thank you chair. Um, so certainly support getting the information on 657 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:28,559 Hansport and Falma. That's been uh an item in the back of my mind for a while 658 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,599 and just uh with everything that we typically have in our plate here, it 659 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,280 just drops out of sight, out of mind. And so I'm really glad to hear that. Um, 660 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:40,000 we have been told previously though that the bulk meters were uh a valuable tool 661 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:44,880 in being able to track and monitor uh for lost water and the like. And I so 662 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:48,800 I'm surprised that we would see them as not being valuable as part of a a tool 663 00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:54,240 that we would still use for knowing what water goes through uh you know one area 664 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:58,319 to another. As you know uh the report that seems to be ever ongoing as it 665 00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:03,599 relates to our uh issue with water back in 22 23. Um that's really what 666 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:07,760 triggered these reports and trying to get a better handle on that lost water. 667 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,720 Uh because we do have a lot. In fact, uh the report I know if I included in the 668 00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:15,200 one that we didn't get on the agenda today, but that's the one where 50% of 669 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:19,680 our water is not making it through to a tap or a destination point. Um so 670 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:23,760 whatever we can do to make that tighter, um I'd appreciate that. But I just on 671 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,559 the bulk, can you can you correct me on that, Todd, or am I missing? 672 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,680 » Yeah, essentially the location of the meters essentially they were put at 673 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,920 borders, the old borders between West Hance and Windsor. Um we have no borders 674 00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:40,160 anymore. So those valves um were creating dead ends. So uh certainly a 675 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:44,160 bulk water meter in an ideal location u would prove beneficial but currently the 676 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:49,040 placement of these bulk water meters with us um consolidating the 677 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,800 distribution system as it was segregated before um just the placement of those 678 00:53:51,359 --> 00:53:57,440 bulk meters not saying that the bulk meters are accurate it's just uh the way 679 00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:02,079 the system operates now um they're not providing any useful data so and we do 680 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:06,640 have like I said uh some some capital projects to relocate have real time 681 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:10,880 monitoring ing instead of a positive displacement meter have a mag meter uh 682 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:14,800 integrated within our SCADA systems. So our plant operators will see that real 683 00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:18,960 time be able to trend that data see peaks and valleys. We don't have that 684 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:23,280 technology now with the with the positive displacement meters. It's just 685 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:26,559 a a manual read and you know if we're reading that weekly or daily we don't 686 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:30,880 see any peaks or trends of where the spikes or valleys may be. 687 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:34,400 » Okay. And one last question if I could again it goes back to the timing sort of 688 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:38,559 the question that I'd asked uh director Ashan I think on the on the consumption 689 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:43,599 reporting because we're now we're a full quarter after uh like March to April May 690 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:47,599 June we're 3 months uh post I think when the meters would have been read uh for 691 00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:51,520 the fourth quarter of the year. Um anything we can do to tighten that up I 692 00:54:49,359 --> 00:54:55,200 think would be a good thing. a for us being aware of what we have going on 693 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:58,720 here, but b uh for you folks as well and being able to if there is an issue, the 694 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,480 sooner you see it, the faster you can respond to deal with and so on, right? 695 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,760 So, um anything we can do to tighten that up would be appreciated. I may come 696 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,920 back with other ideas in the next two weeks, but otherwise, um I'll leave it 697 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:13,760 to you folks to manage that. >> Yes. and and through your worship. I 698 00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:20,000 I'll kind of just add to Todd's response a little bit too. Um 699 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:23,440 when we took an this new report and when we thinking about this new report, we're 700 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:29,200 actually tracking the water right from the plant through the system that's 701 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:35,599 going to give us the accurate data on water loss, nonwater, what our breaks 702 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:39,359 are, what is unaccounted for or what is accounted for non-build water. Those are 703 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:43,599 the kind of things that we'll be starting to report on through this new 704 00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:49,040 report. So when I say holistic, I mean we're going right from the plant making 705 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:52,319 the water to the end of the line. So when we think of those bulk meters, 706 00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:56,960 they're just distribution meters throughout the system. When we look at 707 00:55:54,480 --> 00:56:01,760 what the total production is and where all of it's going, 708 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:05,200 that's where those meters become less relevant because we're actually looking 709 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:10,640 at the whole flow of the system from plant to meter. 710 00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:14,799 to other outputs. That's kind of what we went through with this report from each 711 00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:18,520 of the different plants. So, all three plants will be represented. 712 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:25,520 » Okay, that's great. >> Yeah, thank you. 713 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:29,040 » Seeing no more questions, director, you're 714 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:33,280 » no more question. Just um consensus on direction would be great. And I think uh 715 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:38,880 Clerk Snare has a drafted motion for us if we wanted to give direction tonight 716 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:45,599 on the next reporting. Okay, we're not going to probably be able to see it, but 717 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:49,440 » how did she send it to you? >> If you like, we have a suggested 718 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:52,799 suggested motion. Um committee the whole recommends that council direct staff to 719 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:58,160 present the west regional water consumption reports on a quarterly basis 720 00:56:55,599 --> 00:57:02,359 in order to approve accuracy monitored monitoring and informed decision-m 721 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:10,760 » sounds good. So now we have a counselor who would like to make that motion. 722 00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:19,440 Oh I think it's got passed down. Do we have it? Okay. 723 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:23,040 » Yes. Okay. So, I move that committee of the whole recommends that council direct 724 00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:27,359 staff to present the West Hance regional water consumption reports on a quarterly 725 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:30,480 basis in order to improve accuracy, monitoring, and informed decision-m. 726 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:35,839 » Second. >> Moved by councelor Larry Pinch, seconded 727 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:39,680 by councelor Paul Morton. Is there any questions on the motion? 728 00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:43,119 » Councelor Ivy. >> Yeah, just one question on the motion. 729 00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:47,040 This spec specifies the consumption reports. So, we'd still see the 730 00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:50,319 financial reports on a monthly basis. Okay, thank you. 731 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:58,160 » Councelor John Smith. >> Uh, yes. Do you to Director 732 00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:04,160 Rashard? Uh, I guess Director Rashawn. Um, when the 733 00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:09,359 quarterly reports come out, will they will they include the entire quarter or 734 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:17,200 will they be will they be waiting? Will they all already be tabulated or 735 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:21,359 » sorry through your Madam Chair? Um uh it should have everything like we'll make 736 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:26,480 sure that it has complete data, the residential data, the water flow data. 737 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:32,799 So all of that will be working through. >> So say so say the first quarter here, 738 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:36,319 » um what month would you expect that to come out? 739 00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:39,640 » Um it should come out the month after it's build. 740 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:43,680 » Okay. >> Yep. 741 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:48,799 » Very good. Thank you. >> Okay. So I don't have the motion. I know 742 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:56,440 it's for water and consumption quarterly for accuracy. So if everyone is good on 743 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:56,440 the motion, a show of hands. All those 744 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:05,200 motion. Oh, all those against. One against councelor Ivy. So a motion has 745 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:12,079 carried. Thank you very much. It's hard. We don't realize how much we use this TV 746 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:18,240 on especially for me. So okay, moving right along. Number 10, correspondence 747 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:23,599 2024 2028 council term general correspondence received as of June 5th 748 00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:31,599 2026. First one is library closure concerns. Second is waste collection 749 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:39,599 concerns. Um 10B 2024 2028 council term correspondence sent as of June 5th 2026. 750 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:44,640 So that was all in our package. So we'll move right along to new 751 00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:50,720 business. A 2026 grants and contributions recommendation report. 752 00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:53,960 Director Kio, do not hurt yourself on the way up. 753 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:02,640 So before you tonight is the uh recommendation report for the 2026 754 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:08,880 grants and contributions and the barrierfree small business um 755 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:13,200 accessibility grant. Um we received 73 um applications through the grants and 756 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:18,799 contributions program and one request under the barrierfree small business 757 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:23,280 accessibility grant program. Um and the recommendation is before you as well as 758 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:28,720 a description in the attachment of all the grants that were applied for um 759 01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:35,280 requested and the recommendations. >> Thank you very much councel. So, it was 760 01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:39,520 in your package and we have the the nice readable presentation that we were given 761 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:45,000 tonight. So, I'm just wondering if there's any questions for director Kio 762 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:51,920 counselor Paul Morton. >> It's a question for Kathy. So, as you 763 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:57,200 skim through it, I see Wolf Titan Swim Club. Do we apply for grants in Kings 764 01:00:54,799 --> 01:01:00,880 County as well or is it something unique that they would apply here in West? 765 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:04,559 » Uh, that's an that's an organization. And so the municipality doesn't apply to 766 01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:08,480 the town of Wolfville for for a grant application, but that was an 767 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:12,640 organization um that I believe lost their ability to use the Acadia pool. So 768 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:18,319 they moved to Kings Edge Hill and increased um a lot of their 769 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:20,559 » a number um of their participants um as a result of that. 770 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,480 » I just seen Wolf and Windsor. >> Yeah. 771 01:01:21,359 --> 01:01:26,960 » Okay. >> Good. Councelor Ivy. 772 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:32,240 » Yeah. Thank you, Chair. Just one question I think really uh through you 773 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:37,280 to uh director Kio um you identified in here the 1 and a half% at 291,000 774 01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:40,880 uh for the but did we stay within within that is that 775 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,920 » well within that uh the recommendation based on the which is on the summary 776 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:48,000 sheet >> um shows 180,000 is the recommended a 777 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:54,559 lotment and that includes the barrierfree grant as well. 778 01:01:51,920 --> 01:02:03,760 » That's great. Thank you Kathy. I'm sorry I missed that. Oh, 779 01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:09,839 okay. Seeing no other lights and we're all good. So, there is 780 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:18,280 a recommendation there. If no one has any more questions for Director Kio, I'm 781 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:18,280 going to let her off for the the night. 782 01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:25,920 Councelor Larry Pinch. Committee of the whole recommends to council that council 783 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:29,680 adopts the attached summary as presented, recommending grant funding to 784 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:33,280 the listed recipients and authorizing staff to release funds once all 785 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:37,440 requirements as outlined under the grants and contribution policy and the 786 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:43,280 barrierfree small business accessibility grant policy have been met. 787 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:48,880 » Made by councelor Larry Pinch, seconded by councelor Paul Morton. 788 01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:51,839 Councelor Bonnie, >> are we voting on Windsor Daycare 789 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:56,799 separately? >> We 790 01:02:53,680 --> 01:03:01,760 can take that out. Um, good catch. 791 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:07,720 So, would we like to have an amendment to the motion taking out um 792 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,160 » excluding >> excluding the Windsor 793 01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:17,760 » proper name? Windsor Dayare >> Daycare. I'm looking for it here. The 794 01:03:16,319 --> 01:03:22,839 Windsor Daycare >> live on that. 795 01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:22,839 » So, 796 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:31,799 » oh, we have director Kio coming. 797 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:40,480 » Okay. So, the motion has been a amended to remove the Windsor Daycare. So, that 798 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:46,960 is the motion we are. Is everyone clear on that? Okay. Th all those in favor 799 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:51,760 signal by hands up. Motion passed. 800 01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:55,400 Now, if could we have a motion for um the Windsor Daycare 801 01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:02,880 » Committee of the Hall recommends to council that uh the Windsor Daycare is 802 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:08,720 awarded um and authorizes sorry is awarded their 803 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:11,680 grant funding and authorized staff to release the funds once they have met all 804 01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:15,839 requirements as outlined under the grants and contribution policy and the 805 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,839 barrierfree small business accessibility grant policy. 806 01:04:16,799 --> 01:04:21,839 » Exactly. >> Perfect. made by councelor Larry Pinch, 807 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:26,880 seconded by councelor Paul Morton. Does everyone understand we're doing the 808 01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:31,480 Windsor Daycare? All those in favor. Motion carried. Thank you everyone. 809 01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:40,280 There's another recommendation there if anyone wants to make it. 810 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,839 Councelor Larry Pinch. Uh, do you mean where it starts as further? 811 01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:52,960 » Yes. >> Thank you. Just wanted to make sure I 812 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,079 was at the right spot. >> So, further, it is recommended the 813 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:59,440 following grants be approved from the Canada Community Building Fund. 814 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:03,520 Annapolis Valley Regional Center for Education, Felmouth District Elementary 815 01:05:01,359 --> 01:05:08,000 School to assist with the construction of new inclusive and accessible 816 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:12,240 playground 30,000. Felmouth Family Park Society to assist with the cost 817 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:17,039 associated with prepping a 40x60 block of the park to receive playground 818 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:20,559 equipment purchased in 2025. 4,000 Annapolis Valley Regional Center for 819 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:24,400 Education, Windsor Elementary School Home and School Association to assist 820 01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:28,319 with the cost associated with the Windsor Elementary Community Playhub to 821 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:33,200 support accessible pathways to the Community PlayHub 3,500 and the West 822 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:37,440 Hance Baseball Association to assist with the cost associated with washroom 823 01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:41,440 accessibility upgrades at Co Coyote Park to improve safe inclusive access for 824 01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:46,400 athletes, families, and spectators of all abilities. 2500. 825 01:05:43,839 --> 01:05:53,480 Moved by councelor Larry Pinch. >> Seconded by councelor Paul Morton. All 826 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,480 those in favor. 827 01:05:54,000 --> 01:06:00,799 Motion carried. Further, it is recommended to council to approve from 828 01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:04,240 the 5% reserve fund Brooklyn volunteer fire department auxiliary to assist with 829 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:08,559 the cost associated with upgrading sections of the trail surface and entry 830 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:13,520 points to provide safer access for the public. Replacement of a small wooden 831 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:17,839 bridge and to replace old signage 2500. Gloocap Heritage Archers Association to 832 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:21,119 assist with the costs associated to replace the outdoor targets on the 833 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:26,960 outdoor target range and to build a lockable protective overhead covering 834 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:31,359 for them. 2500 H snow dusters to assist with the cost of associated with trail 835 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:34,559 building, trail maintenance, signage, bridge building, and safety for all 836 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:39,599 recreation groups using the trail systems yearly 2500 Enhanceport Memorial 837 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:42,559 Community Center to assist with costs associated with purchasing three 838 01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:46,799 commercial grade accessible picnic tables to support the ongoing outdoor 839 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:49,760 basketball court revitalization project 3000. 840 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:54,720 » Thank you. Made by councelor Larry Pinch, seconded by councelor Pob Morton. 841 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:59,520 Any questions? Seeing none, all those in favor? Show of 842 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:04,000 hands. Motion pass. Thank you very much. So now 843 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:10,799 we have the last part of our budget with all the grants and contributions pass. 844 01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:17,280 So perfect. B was moved. C we've done. So we're into 845 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:24,880 12, which is the public comment period. So any members of the public who would 846 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:29,359 like to come up and speak, we will not be able to answer any 847 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:38,039 questions, but you have five, seven minutes and uh that will allow 848 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:38,039 say your name and where you're from and 849 01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:46,799 Oh, turn it on. Yeah, perfect. Thank you. 850 01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:53,280 » Excuse me. Um first time at council. Uh Kate Moyer, I'm from Hansport. Um and um 851 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:59,839 I realize you're not able to answer any questions directly today. Um but I am 852 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:04,319 here uh because I'm trying to understand where authority lies regarding the 853 01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:09,920 closure of the Hansport Library. Um it's a very contentious issue that nobody 854 01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:15,920 seems to have a direct answer for. Um, I was part of a group last week that uh 855 01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:22,000 organized a readin uh that was attended by over 125 people from 3 p.m. to 6 p.m. 856 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:28,159 in Hansport at the library. Uh, I heard from several different people with 857 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:33,120 stakes in this from uh employees of Tim Houston's office to the librarian 858 01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:36,960 herself to the sub librarians that have worked there to uh people from the 859 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:44,000 Hansport school and other community areas. I also have with me uh 200 names 860 01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:48,400 on a petition from my local neighbors because we do not need this library to 861 01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:53,520 close. We need this library to stay open for various reasons. It is my 862 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:57,759 understanding that this library was created out of a donation from the Jodri 863 01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:04,319 family that was given to the town of Hansport prior to amalgamation. Um which 864 01:09:01,759 --> 01:09:08,880 would make that library now property of the municipality. 865 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:12,960 What I would I'm trying to decide and trying to figure out is if council has 866 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:21,440 any ability to influence the AVRL decision and if not if there is a 867 01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:26,319 community society of members who are um able to and interested in would 868 01:09:24,719 --> 01:09:31,440 council be willing to explore options for maintaining library services through 869 01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:36,640 a communityrun model given that the library building itself and part of the 870 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:42,560 collection belongs to the municipality. at this point. Um it it remains an 871 01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:46,880 essential part of the community transport given that we don't have 872 01:09:43,759 --> 01:09:51,359 public transit. um people that are seeking job employment 873 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:56,480 opportunities, looking for computers, um the students from the school, the 874 01:09:53,279 --> 01:10:03,520 seniors who use this um venue for groups every week, um they don't have the 875 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:09,199 ability to drive into Windsor or into Wolfville uh to access these things. And 876 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:12,080 so um this library closure represents so much. And I understand that the 877 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:19,040 municipality has already awarded the funding that AVRL asked for. And I'm I'm 878 01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:22,800 asking for the council to a um debate whether or ask yourselves whether 879 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:30,080 you'd be willing to explore options for a volunteer run library and also b to uh 880 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:36,000 go to ABRL and ask them what what where what happened to the funding that this 881 01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:41,760 council gave them that they asked for we gave them completely and uh we are still 882 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:46,880 losing our library. Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much. I'm sure you will 883 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:52,480 hear more on the library yet. Thank you very much. 884 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:59,120 Seeing nobody else in the public, that will end our public um comment period. 885 01:10:55,280 --> 01:11:03,679 So now we're on to 13 in camera. So I look for a motion to a 886 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:06,960 » actually just excuse me, deputy mayor, you missed just at the beginning of the 887 01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:10,640 meeting. No, no, I just want to mention that you missed announcements and I just 888 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,960 had a couple because Hansler and Edward, you didn't ask if council had 889 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,640 announcements. I just want to mention this. 890 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,960 » Yep. No, go right ahead. >> So, sorry to interject, but 891 01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:21,600 » my screen. >> I know. I know. Um I just wanted to 892 01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:25,840 mention because the Hansel Network Association is having their AGM this 893 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:28,320 Thursday. Um so, anybody is welcome to attend, but they're also doing a 894 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:34,640 fundraiser right now and they draw tickets for a basket. Um the draw is 895 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:38,239 also on Thursday. Um so, yeah, and they are also looking for board members 896 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:41,760 currently. So, I just wanted to make sure that I mentioned that because it a 897 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,960 great way to find out more about them at the Ajam on Thursday. 898 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:49,440 » Yeah, anytime like that, Councelor Remy, just interrupt. 899 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:55,600 Seeing nothing else that no one else has, I will look for a motion to go in 900 01:11:52,239 --> 01:12:04,280 camera made by councelor Paul Morton, seconded by councelor John Smith. 901 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:04,280 So, we will move in camera.