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have the town seals uh painted on them
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envisioned like some kind of automated
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was up there today and there were um the
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painting the seals based on a uh you
know they must have done like a they

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tracing is very accurate you know it's
not like a freehand it's uh it's it's

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very impressive. So, I talked to them
for a few minutes. They're going to be

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uh done tomorrow. It looks great. And uh
so, they're going to be done with that

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tomorrow. That's going to be a nice just
additional design feature. So, uh I've

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got a call set up with the park and rec
chair that we need on Monday morning and

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uh we don't want to announce a ribbon
cutting until the posts are actually in

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because we just never know. But, uh we
do expect to be announcing a date for a

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ribbon cutting sometime. We ideally make
an announcement Monday for a date later

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next week. Uh we don't need to give a
lot of notice. We're not looking for 50

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or 100 people there. We just we do want
to do something with Slackboard members

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and uh department recognition members
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the with the process. So that's
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» Yeah.
>> Can you go to the pictures that you

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attached?
>> Sure. Um

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so the second grouping of four
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that area between the the crush stone
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being is that seated?
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hasn't hasn't taken that, but it's it
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» That's one of the paths coming in from
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taken, the the exterior signs hadn't
been placed on the signs but or on the

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uh fence, but they they had they this
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» Uh I think about a week after that. So
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planning board photos of the the signs
as installed which which looked terrific

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with me to get the signs designed and
fabricated. So they think the signage

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looks great. There's a QR code on there
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Reservation is not required. It's
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the courts, they can bump someone who
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that's a nice feature. Uh reserve 30
minute increments for up to three 30

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minute clocks in a row. So someone could
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» Thanks.
>> The color um selection is great. I think

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it's really
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with the town seal, it's it's I know I I
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earlier today some snapshots with the
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one there and it really like
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» Middle Street Bridge, I know it sent
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touch with SNR on Monday. is, you know,
Monday was the day the

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uh guard rail was supposed to get
installed. Uh that was pushed back a

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week. I'm not sure if that was weather
or if that was their subcontractor or

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what, but we did get um confirmation
this past Monday the 20th that it is now

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going to happen starting this coming
Monday the 27th. Uh so once the the

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guardrails are going to be they'll do
the finished paving and the contractor

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said the uh bridge would be complete by
the end of August. I certainly hope it

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would be earlier than that but we're not
going to say anything more than what the

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contractors told us which is the end of
August. I think everybody knows that the

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trackual completion date is not till
November. So they're still well within

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the the agreed timeline for completion.
uh what do you think about just sending

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out an email blast with something
similar to that or do you think best and

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perfect way to get the word out or
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you know Facebook posts. I did a couple
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of the posts that have been on there. U
I posted something I think on Monday,

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but I posted it as a reply to someone
else, not a standalone post. So I did a

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standalone post today, but we can do a
news announcement as well because I

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aware there's a lot of interest in that.
But as you know, I've been just a little

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leerary of putting anything out because
just like with any major project, you're

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given a date and then the slides and
then you look bad and it's like all

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we're doing is talking with the
contractor told us. So, and and they're

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subject to subs and and all the rest.
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beans were delayed or whatever.

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» Yeah.
>> Like they're being installed and then

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they start X. You don't even have to
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» Yeah. So pronounce the name of the gargo
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functional name?
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maybe a Well, what was funny in his
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it. It said t h i r e. Right.
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up with three phr, which was a correct
word, but I'd never heard it.

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» So, yeah, if you Google that, you'll see
it's it's uh basically a a three tiered

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guard rail instead of a two kind of um
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» learn something new every day.
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once it got misspelled, they just stuck
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someone you know coins the phrase and

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has some copyright
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want two or three

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» amazing
page five state crossing uh the

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remaining work there is uh to u uh
reconstruct the trench what was what's

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in there right now is a temporary
trench. So that's got to be a permanent

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trench. So uh any work on a state road,
the contractor needs to get permission

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from the state a week ahead of time uh
to to do the work. So they

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had sent their request to MASDOT last
week to do work today and uh Mat had

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approved that and we have police details
set up and then we heard from

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Commonwealth yesterday forwarding
correspondence again from their

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subcontractor that they couldn't do
today, they could do tomorrow. So then

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they had to go back to Mascot to see if
tomorrow was approved. So, um, as of

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late this afternoon, I didn't have
official confirmation, but we do have

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police details teed up for tomorrow. So,
tomorrow from 9 to 3, they we hope they

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will be there. If they are not there
tomorrow, because of the status of the

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contract and the notice that we
previously sent in writing u under the

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terms of the contract, if it's not done
tomorrow, right, at that point, we're

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going to be going in a direction of
avoiding the contract, right? So, Uh I

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hope it won't come to that. I hope
they'll be on site tomorrow and get that

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done once that trench is constructed. Uh
the only remaining work is the uh at

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that point they'd be uh painting the
guard rail and removing the paint for

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the former uh not crosswire and removing
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crosswalk.
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» So if they cancel tomorrow, they still
have to pay the details, right?

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» Yes. Well, if if it's canceled shorter
than I I forget what the union contract

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says in terms of there's a period they
can cancel. U but if it's within that

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period, yes, they're financially
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» Forget that button done.
>> Oh my goodness. Yes.

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There's uh uh acco this is nothing new.
You had uh you had approved the form of

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agreement back in June. Uh the city
council formally approved that earlier

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this month. and um uh we fully executed
the animal control uh for FY27. As you

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saw in the correspondence, we did
express an interest in doing a

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multi-year that didn't happen on that
time frame. So that's something that um

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you know might be good to uh take up,
you know, late summer, early fall if

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there is interest, just because
otherwise you're going to be right back

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there next January, February. Uh so so
it's something I can brief Sean on as

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part of the transition.
>> So they didn't respond to your request.

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They just acknowledged that the one
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interested in that or
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they have a new there's been a lot of
staffing changes over there. I can tell

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you of the people we've worked with over
the years, I think they would be very

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interested because I think they look at
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this kind of paperwork that we spend
hours and to do that every two or three

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years would be just better from a time
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» than uh than every year but I haven't
had a specific acknowledgement from

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their current staff when you are they
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Wednesday next week And um again he's
been burning midnight oil getting

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everything ready and uh obviously with
the transition with the treasure

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collector that came to a tough time but
uh but I think we're going to be like

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really good shape and I also know that
the auditors will take into account the

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fact that you know there's been turnover
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» Patty's been through audits before.
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» Well in fact for the last three years
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So, she's she's she's a seasoned pro and
uh um but she can't you know she

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obviously doesn't have direct knowledge
of like you know but she's got I I can

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tell you from spending some time in the
treasure collector's office the last few

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days just getting things ready for Patty
all the files in her order all bank

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statements are are just exactly how you
would expect very organized very tidy

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and so I think um Patty's going to be in
a good position to pick that up and um

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you know um in terms of uh certifying
year end values and things like that

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» is there a specific date by which dealer
completes their report?

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» No, it's um it's there's not the the U
bond rating agencies

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look for us to send it to them no later
than like March.

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» And sometimes the audit it's it's it can
be very late. Uh we've been really

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fortunate especially in the last few
years since Jenny's been the town

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accountant. She always gets on the
auditor's schedule to to complete the

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fieldwork in like in like early to
midepptember. That's really on the early

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side. A lot of cities and towns haven't
even closed their books yet. So Jany's,

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you know, she's just like really on the
ball because she knows getting that done

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then you get the report complete. Yeah.
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I'm always getting letters from my
municipal clients about, you know, do I

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have any comments on this? Let the
auditor letters come out in February.

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» Yeah. Yeah. So legally, but but it's
it's much getting it done sooner. So

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what we've tried to do and has been
successful is get complete the fieldwork

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in September. That's also by that point
Jenny's done her schedule A which is

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basically the close out with department
of revenue. Department of revenue has

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signed off on all those numbers. Getting
all of that done by early to

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midepptember is a huge lift. Uh there's
not a lot of accounts who do that and

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auditors love that because their clients
are always, you know, it just gets later

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in the season. That's when they get
really backed up. So being able to get

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on their calendar early is a plus. So
historically we've um the tax rate

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hearing is generally right around
Thanksgiving. It's usually the meeting

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prior to Thanksgiving. Typically mid
November is when the tax rate for the

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current fiscal year is set and it's
typically been shortly after that often

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the first or second meeting of December
where the auditor has come in and

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present their final um closeup. We often
have the financials closed out ahead of

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that from the auditor. uh they will send
us their certified financials. Uh what

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sometimes lacks a little bit is the
management letter because that's more

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you know some more subjective things.
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» not numeric,
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» Yeah. So uh so I think getting the final
audit presented in December is probably

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realistic.
>> Uh I think this past year it went to

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January but that wasn't because of us.
that was because Essex Regional hadn't

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closed their books and we can't close
our books until Essex Regional closes

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their books. So there's also times that
we're subject to things outside our

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control.
But uh over the years the 11 years I've

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been doing it, I've seen times where
audit isn't closed out in February or

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March. And that's legally fine. Uh but
it's kind of, you know, you just want to

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close out the year because you're at
that point you're halfway through the

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current year. So, it's just uh yeah,
it's not a legal thing as much as just

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getting it off your desk.

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» Let's see the uh green communities
annual report. I had asked u this was

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something we put on the work plan to
just kind of um kind of document how

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this has worked and uh we thought this
would be helpful because this is

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something that happens every year. It's
something that is filed in uh late fall

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with the Commonwealth uh because we're a
green community. It's one of the

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requirements, but it's something that
really is a yearround effort because the

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the energy usage is posted on a monthly
basis. Uh all the um as you can see from

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me, all of that data, every uh gallon of
fuel, every unit of energy, that's all

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done on a year- round basis. And then
that's all pulled together in annual

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report. I think that's been a really
nice uh kind of partnership over the

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years between public works and uh the
energy sustainability committee. Uh one

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of the first, you know, I remember
meeting with Rick Parker in August of

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2018 be long before he was on a select
board when he was on the energy

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committee. I remember he came to me and
he said essentially the volunteers have

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been always doing that report. He's like
we're happy to do it but this is really

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something the town needs to take on. And
so over the over the subsequent u you

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know year or couple of years especially
as we as the public works was uh

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reorganized and the creation of the
business manager position has allowed us

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to really largely take that in house. It
is helpful to have u the committee uh we

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review the data and sometimes they've
identified discrepancies or commodities

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that have helped us figure out why is
that how it is. Uh, so I think it's a

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nice uh division of of labor and so I
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that really as a benefit for the new
interim because uh well, you know, the

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due date of um kind of um late, you
know, like I think it's normally around

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November 1st that it's due. Uh that
seems like it's a ways away, but it

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comes right out. And uh so I think this
will be a benefit to to the Sean to make

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sure that he understands how it's been
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I see Chip is on. I just want to see if
he has any work on Chip. Did you uh have

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a chance to look at this and you have
any input?

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» I have not seen this before, but it
looks fine.

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» Okay.
All right. Thanks.

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» Yeah, it's a lot of data here.
>> Yeah,

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» you know,
>> it is these are the things that and I

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think and I'm all for the green
community. I think the town's gains I

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mean there's no question the town's
gained immeasurably from that. But it is

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the type of thing with then when the
town opted in many many years ago, it

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creates
an enormous amount of staff work. And

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when I started in 2018, there was nobody
on staff who had any assigned

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responsibility for this. And so it was
this thing. And thankfully, the town had

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a committee and dedicated volunteers who
put in a ton of time and helped to

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ensure the town maintained compliance.
But that's where, you know, Rick come to

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me early in my tenure to say, "Hey,
look, we're happy to do this. We're

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going to do it this this cycle, but this
is really something from a management

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standpoint the town needs to take
ownership of. It is a responsibility."

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And I can I said I couldn't I can't
agree more. uh took some time before we

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had the bandwidth to be able to do it
and the proper staffing structure, but I

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think uh it's been a really nice
transition where now the committee is

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still involved and but isn't expected to
shoulder kind of the share of the burden

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on the bullet for manually entering the
that long list of fuel usage and

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deliveries. Is that data that Caitlyn
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that come to her?
>> It's all coming off the invoices.

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» She has these invoices are all going
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actually there's
>> all of these go through that department.

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» Um
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» Uh no, there are some that we have to
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sources.
>> Yeah. Okay.

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» Yeah. And uh and but also there's a and
Rick and and maybe Chip, but certainly

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Rick knows a lot more about this
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than I do, but I know that the green
communities is really in, you know,

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close sync with National Grid. So I
believe there's a way for like the

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National Grid data to be like you can
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I'm not sure because I haven't direct
>> it's automated. The bullet says all

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automatic utility data. That is that
what you're talking about?

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» Yeah. Yeah. And it sounds like Chip has
has worked with it, I assume.

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» Thanks.
>> Okay.

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» But I can remember my first, you know,
there have been times where it's like a

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big scramble to pull all the data. Now,
at this point, it's caught because it's

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done every month. So, there's not this
big crunch at the end of the year.

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» Yeah. But it requires that person whose
job it is to do this methodically every

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month. And these are the things that
aren't always visible to taxpayers. But

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but we're operating a much much higher
level than were several years ago.

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» You mind what what do we get out of
being a green community through this? In

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doing this, what's the benefit to the
temp?

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» There's a lot of grant eligibility. Uh
but Chip, I think it goes beyond that.

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Do you want to speak to that?
>> Uh grant eligibility is the main thing.

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for improving controls on the heating

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systems and town buildings, things like
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» Great.

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» And how long have we been a green
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» 2013, I believe.
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» Okay. Excellent.
>> All right. Thank you for

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» Yeah, we just wrapped up.
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Um, and it's it's uh it's always nice to
kind of document how it's how it's gone.

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I'll just set down a marker. Then uh on
the town manager transition items. I

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know I just uh handed this out a short
time ahead of the meeting and I

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certainly am not going to be going
through each of these methodically, but

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I did uh include updates on everything
where there's new information. Uh so if

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there's anything you would like me to
speak to, I'm happy to to do that. I

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think in terms of the top category of uh
everything the board had prioritized I

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think everything's either you know
complete or on track for completion uh

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some of the lower priority initiatives
um there has been some work on those

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just kind of in the normal course of
things for instance on the table license

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agreements uh it had been my specific uh
direction the town council was that

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we're kind of tableabling this we're
going to pick you know have the new

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insurance pick it up but uh and I'd
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then she reached out to me on Monday and
basically because they had started the

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conversations with Verizon and they were
and I guess so Verizon feels some

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urgency they're actually pushing which
is has never happened normally you have

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to like clamor to get their attention
but actually because council has started

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the conversation with them they're
they're kind of like where are we on

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this so so council was kind of you know
pushing for hey can we have a

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conversation so I said yeah great of
course So Rebecca and I had a Zoom

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meeting with U. Nicole Castanzo at PP on
Wednesday. Turned out to be a very

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substantive meeting. We cover a lot of
ground and um there's actually a there

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are actually proposals going back and
forth between KP and Comcast or not

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contest rise not on the material issues
of like the uh PEG funds but some of the

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you know any agreement that's 10 years
old there's been changes in kind of the

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best practice for language. So AP's been
doing some of that on our behalf these

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past several months. And so I sent them
I sent Nicole all the background info I

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have including the financial analysis
that that we sent you know several

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months ago of PEG revenues and expenses.
Uh but also some of the more

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organizational things just to give her
the fuller picture of you know how TAG

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funds are managed have been managed and
uh so forth. So that gives her what she

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needs. So she's um in the relatively
near term, in fact, I expect to hear

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something about the end of tomorrow with
more specific something that you can

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consider. So I think that's going to put
the board and Sean in a great spot

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because you'll now have something
tangible. There is a requirement as you

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know for public hearing as a master
payment process. uh we talked about uh

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the potential that that be consolidated
between Verizon and Comcast because that

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license is going up where we go at the
end of the calendar year and uh that

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sounds very viable that certainly
efficiency in terms of the staff time it

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will take. So that's an example of
something that we kind of tried to keep

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at bay but but we couldn't but it's
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So and it only took less than an hour.
>> Who who holds the public hearing on

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those?
>> Uh the Slack

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» we do. Yeah. Yeah, it's basically
inviting public input on what do people

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need, want, expect, and uh and what kind
of money you need. But but Nicole said

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there's, you know, she's got a lot of
experience with it. She said she's been

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to a lot of these hearings where people
were like, "Well, we want essence." No,

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no, no. There's there's she said it's
very constrained within federal law.

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» More old movies, you know, like what you
can ask for. you can ask for things, but

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she said there's like a narrow scope of
what's actually in play in these

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negotiations. So, some of that hearing
is kind of managing expectations of what

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is reasonable, realistic that a town can
actually negotiate. What is things that

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are kind of wishlist items that are
really not even material? Like, you

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know, people hear public hearing about
service and maybe they say, "Oh, I want

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I want Neton building or whatever." So,
I want a live person to answer willing

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to call guns. Thanks. Good
>> luck with that.

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» Angus, there's several of these that
that can be moved to lower priority. Um

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like the the bill parking barriers, they
agreed to put that on hold because we

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decided to go ahead with the um dock.
>> Okay.

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» So that's not expected to be um
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» on next to last on first. We're not
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» Yeah. Yeah. Kind of never
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the only thing going forward would be
the dog.

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» Okay, good. All right.
>> So, I think we're charging next year for

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that.
>> Okay, good.

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» Same thing with the evaluating signage
at Milon. That's

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» great.
>> Um and the trail markers

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and the egg committee that doesn't need
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» Y.
>> So, those can all just be pushed to a

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lower priority. We can use schedule on
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» Great. Perfect. Yeah. Good.
>> Oh, look at that. Four.

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» Um,
>> so the baseline items. That's um

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» that starts on page four.
>> Yeah.

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» So, u we closed up some grants. There's
a couple of others that we're actively

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working on. Actually, one really one in
particular at town center here, Mark.

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There's a kind of a closeout report.
It's just a one page uh form that we

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could fill out.
>> So when the tax set of foreclosure mean

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we you did that briefing um not in
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» I think did we talk about having maybe
having some kind of daytime meeting with

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a board member kind of talking directly
to council but that doesn't happen have

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have to happen before I leave. In fact,
especially with the change for treasure

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collector, I think that would be just as
well just to happen sometime in August

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and that gives Patty that background as
well. I don't think there's any reason

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to try to shoot one of that in between
the next week.

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» Anything else on that that you want to
highlight or

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you have not?

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» Uh, no. I think I think what I've put
here in writing kind of speaks for

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itself. Again, you're just getting it
now. So, uh, but we can, you know,

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follow up offline if if either of you or
Chris has well, of course, he's I'll

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I'll be gone by the time he's back. So,
but if either of you have questions or

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want more backgrounds, but I think
everything's uh, you know, pretty well

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on track all things considered.
We have some number of curve balls per

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» questions bearing off the first.

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» All right. Anything else?
>> Uh, no. I think uh Oh.

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Oh, yeah. One final update. Uh
the uh Butch and I have a Zoom meeting

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scheduled for Monday with Matthew P
regarding the Heartsto Bridge just to

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get a status update of where they are on
the u intent to basically armor the

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approaches on both sides. Uh we know
they had a survey crew out there earlier

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this spring and u you know we had hoped
to have some conceptual plans in

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circulation by now. Obviously that
hadn't happened. Uh, so I wanted to just

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before I leave kind of find out where
things stand. So I'll send out an email

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or some kind of update coming out of
that just to let you know where things

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stand with that.
>> What does that mean?

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» So the town had looked at different ways
to, you know, rather than signage, which

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is of, you know, debatable effectiveness
to actually have a uh durable striker

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bar.
>> So for the heightage

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» Yeah. So that if an overhead truck was
approaching the bridge, it would

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actually be damaged. It would actually
stop the truck.

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» Not the one that's
>> correct. Correct. And this is a big

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deal. This is something they have for
store drive,

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» right?
>> They they don't have this anywhere else

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in the Commonwealth. So this was a big
deal for Mascot to actually embrace

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this, but they have. is something we've
been talking about for years. But last

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summer, uh, Edge was very interesting
because this board was having a lot of

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discussions and had looked at things
like advanced protection with

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electronic, you know, signals, had
looked at all different options. And

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this board had arrived at the feeling
that they felt it should be armored. And

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we had a a call subsequent to that Zoom
meeting Butch and I did with Master T.

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Turns out they had come to that same
conclusion internally. And so it was

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this great meeting because it was like
they want this and we want this and

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everyone wants this. So uh then it
became okay how do we do that? And they

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needed to um uh so but they they last
last summer and early fall had

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authorized work from their design
engineer to basically look at how would

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this work? Where would the footings go?
What would they look like? Um, and this

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would need to go through Roxville's
historic district commission. There's a

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lot of permitting that will be this will
be even if it's full speed ahead, I

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think you're still talking a couple
years away, but you know, you got to

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start somewhere. So, uh, the policy
direction is to have these striker bars

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on both sides of the bridge because the
risk of damage to the the bridge is so

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costly and really catastrophic in terms
of the impact. So, so when a overhead

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vehicle hits the swinging bar, it can
goes past that, it can then damage

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something further on.
>> Exactly.

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» So, the striker bar stops them before
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» Correct.
>> Got it.

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» Yeah. So, one of the issues is is on the
West Newbury side, the land, as as

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you're probably aware, state owned. uh
possibly article 97, but if it's below a

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certain threshold, you might not need to
go through the article 97 process. But

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those were some of the things they were
looking at. They had surveyed to see

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where would the foundations go, how much
land would impact

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» article 97.
>> Yeah.

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» Was it recreation
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side?
>> Great.

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the boat ramp.
>> Yeah. And and

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» is subject to article language.
>> So some part of this striker bar

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structure would be on that
>> could be these were the things they had

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to look at.
>> It's not just within the bridge

412
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:42,080
footprint. It actually would be with
well I think within the right of way I'm

413
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,279
not
>> sure but they they talked about article

414
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,760
97. So,
>> oh,

415
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:53,760
» so when we talked to them last summer
and early fall, they thought they might

416
00:30:49,919 --> 00:30:58,320
have some kind of conceptual plan even
as soon as like right around the first

417
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:02,960
of the year, right? And and that came
when we've been in continuing

418
00:31:00,399 --> 00:31:08,880
correspondence and and so it was
actually a close call of a overhead

419
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:13,120
truck and I saw a Facebook post in I
think it was in June and I did a

420
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:20,000
screenshot. I sent it along for the
bridge. Hey, where are we on this? And

421
00:31:15,919 --> 00:31:24,799
so, um, so someone had a photo of the
>> of a of a truck close call. Yeah. So,

422
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,480
every time I see that is a reminder
that, hey, where are we?

423
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:32,640
» Um, and I will say the district
engineer, district board, he's they're

424
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:38,159
they're always pretty responsive, but
their backlogs just like so many others.

425
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:42,080
So, but I do believe they're doing the
best they can,

426
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:45,440
» but nothing moves as quickly as as we
would like.

427
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:50,240
» So, at what point would you bring up
Chris's idea about the metal

428
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:53,440
» Oh, I brought that up. Oh, you did?
>> Yeah. Yeah, we we had a Zoom meeting

429
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,600
with them probably three or four months
ago. And I I brought that up

430
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:01,200
specifically. I sent along the the link
to the designer and u

431
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,600
» uh you know, I think they were
intrigued. Um, I think they were

432
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:11,200
thinking of something possibly more
ornamental to the side because they said

433
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:17,279
once you actually put that on the actual
impact beam that can have issues of

434
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:21,559
structural engineering or so so but they
they were intrigued by the idea

435
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:28,320
» and I I spoke with Mayor Barrett about
it a number of times and she's

436
00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:33,279
personally supportive. Obviously, the
Roxto uh historic district commission is

437
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:36,720
a regulatory body and can't speak for
them and I don't I doubt this has

438
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:41,440
probably gotten much attention
behavioral because there's nothing yet

439
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:46,000
specific to respond to but conceptually
she's she's very supportive. She did

440
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:50,640
have a expectation that if something
like this happened that mascot would

441
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:53,679
improve the uh fencing on the behavioral
approach because right now it's just

442
00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:59,760
chain of fencing and she says something
more more u you know or metal or like

443
00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:04,320
rod iron fencing to adapt some she would
look for that to be part of the deal and

444
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:10,080
I think that's very reasonable
>> investment communicated for

445
00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:14,159
» okay good
all right moving on to action items item

446
00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:19,919
A is a request for additional part-time
staffing lower grounds and emboss.

447
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:24,880
» Yeah. So, um uh I think you probably
know that our custodian John Savage has

448
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:29,919
been out in and out with health issues.
>> So, I've had to move our current

449
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:33,440
part-time James Deolian from outdoor
maintenance to doing all the custodial

450
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:40,000
work for John when John's out on a
permanent basis full day. So, we've left

451
00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:44,240
with a lot of weed whacking and outdoor
maintenance and uh with me on some of

452
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:48,320
the bigger projects. I'm just not able
to get there. And quite frankly, it's

453
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,279
getting looking kind of neglectful out
there. Okay.

454
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:56,720
» Uh I I can spend a few days a month
trying to catch things up. Uh but

455
00:33:53,600 --> 00:34:02,559
there's so many things to do that uh I
think it's time to get another part-time

456
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:08,079
guy. Um, and I think uh what we were
thinking were 15 hours per week at a

457
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:14,240
rate of uh 2357.
It's kind of in the mid-range. And um

458
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:18,480
» so this is a new position. This
>> the position of the guy that you pulled

459
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:22,960
off to to cover.
>> Well, I I still got to keep him in his

460
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,200
position. So this would be a new
position.

461
00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:30,639
» An addition.
>> Okay. And is this the same as what he's

462
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:34,720
making? Uh, no. It'd be less certain
than what Jim's made. Okay. Um, and so I

463
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,079
know for park and wreck they have two
part-time laborers. Is there an

464
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:42,879
opportunity for either one of them to
>> uh Yeah. You know, quite Yeah. They're

465
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,839
just not good at doing any wacking or
doing

466
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,320
» I got to have a guy that's kind of
interested in doing some landscaping.

467
00:34:47,839 --> 00:34:52,399
» Yeah.
>> And uh to keep up with those things. So

468
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:55,760
I've I've tried some of the pock guys
and they just it's not it's not what

469
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:59,920
we're looking for.
>> Okay.

470
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:05,599
So 15 weeks is
almost four months. So it's

471
00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:08,400
» yeah kind of includes like uh yeah like
leave clean up

472
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:12,640
» and then if there's some additional
hours left over I mean we can always use

473
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:16,240
some shovel and snow you like in a big
storm and I didn't want to leave myself

474
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:19,440
too short in case we get something
really big where there's a lot of

475
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:23,520
shoveling to do with the roofs and
things of that nature. or not that we

476
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:27,520
might be some leftover I'm thinking but
I didn't I didn't want to have to try

477
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:31,839
and go get some more money.
>> So this is seasonal then it's not

478
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:36,240
» Yeah seasonal. Absolutely.
>> So it would be 15 weeks and so this is a

479
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,920
permanent position or is this just a
>> you know I I think it's needed at this

480
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,880
point you know depending on where we get
with my projects. I mean, I can

481
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:47,680
certainly I don't think I'm going to run
out of bigger projects to handle and,

482
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:51,520
you know, with with the uh with all the
protocol that comes with that and the

483
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:55,040
running around, I just don't I want to
get out there and get to that, but I

484
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,160
just never seem to and it it wears me
when I drive by these places and they're

485
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:03,599
not weed whacked. You know, they they
mow pretty well. The the uh uh DPW ms

486
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,920
them, but um you know, a lot of times
the weed whacking is left and I just I

487
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:12,320
can't look at it.
>> Yeah.

488
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:15,599
So Angus, what um to if we're creating a
position, what what are the implications

489
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:17,920
of that or what's the process that we
just decided or

490
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:22,640
» Well, I think there'd be a couple of
questions I would have. One is or or

491
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:26,960
process-wise you um you know, the
mechanism for that would be the salary

492
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:31,599
week schedule, but uh you know, I wanted
to look at where the money comes from.

493
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:37,200
So if the board's favorable, u you know,
we could run kind of a a projection of

494
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:42,000
what that would cost. Uh would this be
is the land how much of the land is kind

495
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:46,320
of park and wreck as opposed to town
land? And uh because I would think about

496
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:50,560
would would some of the money come from
possibly the park and recol fund as

497
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,920
opposed to the operating budget, right?
>> Uh maybe some comes from the operating

498
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:59,760
budget, maybe some comes from park and
wck, but that would I think be driven by

499
00:36:56,079 --> 00:37:06,960
where the where the need is. Um and then
and then the actual um I think the you

500
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:11,680
know the vote would be um to change the
um salary w schedule to add that and

501
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:16,560
then uh depending on how much of that's
in the operating budget we would need to

502
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:21,839
look at in the current fiscal year. Can
that be absorbed within what we've

503
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:27,359
carried in the budget? And if not, uh,
we're either to reserve fund transfer or

504
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:31,599
budget in the fall meeting and then make
any, uh, change to the proposed budget

505
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:34,160
for FY28.
>> Okay.

506
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:38,640
» So, I think if it's something for
depending on, you know, because if it's

507
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:43,680
15 weeks in the course of 52 and we're
already into late July, I think we could

508
00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:47,040
be looking at what's the projection
between now and the end of this season,

509
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,520
which wouldn't be the full 15 weeks. It
would be a lower number. Yeah,

510
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,599
» maybe that's something that can be
absorbed within the operating budget or

511
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:56,880
with
revolving fund,

512
00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:00,079
» right? And and this and this uh uh
person that I got in mind to fill this

513
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:04,240
position, you know, if he could do it in
10 hours, he would do that. You know,

514
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,599
he's not going to be uh looking for 15
hours a week.

515
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,560
» So, we'll have a work schedule. It's
going to take him 15 hours a week for

516
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:14,960
the first two weeks just to get caught
up. And then if things dry out, we don't

517
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:18,800
have a ton of weeds and you know we're
getting caught up, he's more than happy

518
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:23,119
just to give it 10 hours a week.
>> Okay. So if we were starting at the

519
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:29,200
beginning of the season, what would you
see the season running? Like May 15th to

520
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:32,240
» Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Some sometime in
there. As soon as the as soon as they

521
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,920
start cutting the lawns,
>> you know, it's going to probably two

522
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,760
weeks after that we'll start,
>> you know, so May end of April, beginning

523
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:43,920
of May
>> run through. So 15 weeks would put us

524
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,200
into September.
>> Yeah.

525
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:50,560
» Like not long.
>> Yeah. Exactly. But I I think I think you

526
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,520
know if if it's kept up if if a person's
there in the beginning and he's keeping

527
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,880
up with it, it's probably going to be
more like 10 hours a week.

528
00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:01,119
» But so we'll be able to stretch it and
and pay attention to where we're at uh

529
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:05,280
moneywise and within the budget. And
then you know uh I'd like to save some

530
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:09,280
time for the lead pickup is a is a big
deal. You know, a lot of times we end up

531
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:15,200
uh not getting to all of them just
because we're short on men in hours. So,

532
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:20,480
um just have to figure out. I think I
think if I planned on 15 hours a week

533
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,839
and most of the time he's going to do
we'll be able to stretch that out.

534
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:28,240
» Okay. So, it' be more like November.
>> Yeah.

535
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:31,680
So, what would you think about
um doing this for this year and then

536
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,280
waiting and see what happens with the
rest of the staffing and then

537
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,440
reevaluating budget and all of that?
Does that make sense?

538
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,079
» Perfect.
>> Yeah. I think rather than making

539
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:47,599
something permanent, do now as needed
and seeing how it goes and it seems like

540
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:51,200
it's necessary with some coming back.
And and I think that also makes sense

541
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:56,560
because uh I mentioned earlier in the
meeting we recently hired a vacancy with

542
00:39:53,839 --> 00:40:01,280
BPW which is great but we're still down
a full-time person DPW because of a

543
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:05,760
workers comp issue and and have been
down for actually coming up on five or

544
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:10,400
six flights. So Butch has been working
with a short staff. I don't think people

545
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:15,280
know that or notice that because they do
such a great job, but they're really

546
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:19,760
stretched labor wise and have been. So,
I think doing something for this season

547
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:24,160
and once we're ideally full staffing
with highway, I don't know if uh once

548
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:28,000
they're at their full strength if
there's if there's more that we might or

549
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:32,800
if that's just not that they could do or
if that's just not really something that

550
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:38,480
I would I would do.
>> So, then we would need to figure out

551
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:43,359
where the money's coming from, right?
So that was my next question is how long

552
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,800
will it take to figure that out before
Brian needs this first?

553
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,760
» Oh, I could run those numbers and I mean
that would take a few minutes

554
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,920
» and where it would come from and
>> well where it comes from I think so so

555
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:57,440
you have a sense of between so I would
think of uh

556
00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,240
» well Angus I'm saying we give you the
okay and you just go deal with it.

557
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:05,599
» Yeah,
>> you you're comfortable. You can find out

558
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:10,160
where parks and wreck and facilities can
budget it. You'll find a way.

559
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:15,359
» Wait, that's not No, I can find out. I
could estimate your costs very quickly.

560
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:21,200
» Yeah. $5,400.
>> Yeah. Bucks an hour, 15 hours, 15 weeks,

561
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,680
5400 bucks. What do you you were saying
where it might

562
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:27,760
» Yeah. So, how how would it allocate
between park and racks?

563
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:32,079
» But is that something happen in the next
week?

564
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:36,400
» Uh the calculation could the issue
>> have to advertise for it and everything.

565
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:39,359
Well, but also like like if any of it
>> even though he has a gun.

566
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,680
» Yeah. We can't just hire somebody
without posting the job.

567
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:46,720
» If there was any uh for instance any
expectation the parking rack was going

568
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:51,200
to be funding some of the other
revolving fund, they need to vote that.

569
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:55,680
So they need to post a meeting, you
know, so it ends up being, you know,

570
00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:59,280
» he doesn't get a person until October.
>> Well, no. Well, I I think there's I

571
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:04,480
think that that's more like if we're
trying to if if it's a permanent thing,

572
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:08,960
you have a set of more expedient
>> and we're paying it out of the operating

573
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:12,000
budget which is under BPW's oversight
and it's can be absorbed within the

574
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:16,319
current budget.
>> That's that's going to be much quicker.

575
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,760
» And that's that's what I was planning to
do this kind of absorb it within my

576
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,839
budget.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

577
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:28,960
» Then I can hire. So yeah, I'm seeing it
as something quick, something temporary

578
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:34,079
and then re-evaluate.
>> Yeah, with part with the demand really

579
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:38,240
driven by a kind of a
>> current issue of being short staff. I

580
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:42,079
think that makes a lot of sense.
>> That's good.

581
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:47,200
» Last year we had a pocket rent uh
additional employee, Tyler Evans, and

582
00:42:45,359 --> 00:42:51,200
that worked out perfect. he was able to
keep up with everything, but it seemed

583
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:56,400
how he was paid by the park and wreck.
He was kind of just doing ball fields

584
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,599
and all their property. So, so it was
tough to

585
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,720
» This is just
>> get him to come over and do hourly raise

586
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,160
but no benefits or
>> correct. Yeah. Anything under 20 hours

587
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,480
is a benefit position. Correct.
>> So, is it correct that it has to be

588
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:11,040
posted?
>> It's not a legal requirement. We do we

589
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:14,720
do generally I mean we do we do
generally post jobs every now and then

590
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,760
if you know let's say there's an
existing employee that wanted more hours

591
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:23,359
that's something different because that
would be like an internal hire there is

592
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:27,599
no legal requirement to post um and I
think you know we use judgment but uh

593
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:30,400
and I think
>> is this person interested in being a

594
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:36,000
contractor
>> well actually he uh you know I I he's

595
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:40,560
not quite a friend of mine but I talked
to him quite often in the food and

596
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:44,640
whatnot. And uh he heard me saying that
there was a lot of uh you know um

597
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:47,520
landscaping that needed to be done. He
came in and put his I didn't even ask

598
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,480
him. He just put an application in to
have it on file here. And then uh as

599
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,599
John became uh having his health issues
and me having to pull with Jimmy and

600
00:43:54,319 --> 00:44:00,079
things not looking that well. I'm like,
"Okay, this might fit right in. Just

601
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:03,200
happened." So um he's interested.
>> Does he do that work otherwise?

602
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:07,359
» He did. He's retired.
>> Oh, it's a retired. So he did a lot of

603
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,920
construction work but now
>> you res.

604
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,560
» Yes.
>> I mean if he was willing to work as a

605
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,640
contractor that would certainly be
cleaner.

606
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:17,520
» That is
>> Yeah. It's it's Yeah. He's not

607
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:22,560
interested in doing that. There's a lot.
Yeah. It's not he won't work as a uh he

608
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:27,040
was never self-employed.
>> So uh you know it that becomes a lot of

609
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:32,079
tax issues for him. Okay.
>> Yeah. He's looking for a partner

610
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:36,880
» season.
Okay. So the only thing I'm not clear on

611
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:41,040
is the the total 15 weeks you're
planning on starting next week or the

612
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:46,079
week after for 15 weeks going into
November, not what it would have been in

613
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:47,119
April and then just the like half of it.
>> Right.

614
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,599
» Okay.
>> Right. Exactly. And like I said, it's a

615
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:54,240
trial thing and I think Baron summed it
up pretty good. It's a trial thing.

616
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,000
We'll see how it works and see if it's
needed and then pursue something a

617
00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:01,760
little bit more permanent if if things
start to look great.

618
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,960
» Is that part of the budget process?
>> Yeah. for next year.

619
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:07,839
» Yeah,
>> that sounds good.

620
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,640
» Look good.
>> Yeah.

621
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:15,680
» So then who makes the call about posting
in just that?

622
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:18,160
» Uh yeah, I mean I think uh ultimately I
I would

623
00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:22,560
» Okay.
>> in terms of post Well, I would make the

624
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:28,640
calling. I think uh
>> yeah, I think it's No, no, I I'd be

625
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:35,839
honest. I mean, if we have a person and
it's like such a short time I'm inclined

626
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:39,119
since it's right now it's just temporary
if we don't need to post there.

627
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:43,680
» Yeah. I'm not saying he's just saying
who's going to make the decision.

628
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:45,839
» I think we should with the with the town
manager.

629
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:51,359
» It's town manager's job, not our job.
>> No, no, no. But my then my input would

630
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:55,119
be if you don't feel you need to do it,
I'm fine with that.

631
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:59,440
» Yeah. And I think if if it's a if it's
an overall temporary position, which is

632
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:04,720
what we're talking about, that makes it
a lot I think more defensible to just

633
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:08,960
hire someone rather than, you know, if
it's a permanent position.

634
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:12,960
» I mean, plus this is a particular
individual who's expressed an interest.

635
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,480
If Brian's here saying, I want to go
find somebody.

636
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,880
» Yeah.
>> And we didn't know who it was. Is that

637
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:21,599
be a different
>> You've opened yourself up though if

638
00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:24,319
there's somebody else in the community
that said, "Oh, I would have liked to

639
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:28,960
done that and I didn't get a chance to
apply. So that's that's the only cap.

640
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:32,079
» That's
it. It is kind of difficult to find

641
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:36,640
somebody that's interested in weed
whacking, you know, a lot, you know, and

642
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,920
then there's a lot of like, you know,
high school kids this and that, they

643
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,599
just don't work out. Even the guys that
say they want to come in, oh gez, I'd

644
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:48,160
love to do that. They don't love to do
that.

645
00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:52,800
» And then you end up
Yeah. They don't like to do that. has

646
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,800
are you going to do weed whack or not?
>> They just don't like to do it. And he

647
00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:00,400
stressed several times to me because you
know a lot of people say that and I'm

648
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:04,240
like okay you know and then but he said
it several times that he would love to

649
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:07,920
do that and he's you know I I got the
feeling that he's interested in doing

650
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:10,079
it. So we'll see. That's why I'm saying
let's try it

651
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,800
» and we'll see how it goes.
>> And you're confident you have enough

652
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:18,000
money in your budget to
>> Yeah, we're talking 5,000.

653
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:20,400
» Okay. 500 bucks. So I think uh I talked
to Caitlyn already. She said we should

654
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,280
be able to switch subjects.
>> Awesome. Okay. So, do we need to vote

655
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:28,640
then?
>> What is the motion?

656
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:35,839
» Uh I I think it would be to add to the
uh FY27 salary wage schedule a uh you

657
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:43,359
know part part-time temporary position.
Um you know 15 hours per week for no

658
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:48,480
more than 15 weeks or 357.
That's a very clear parameter and that's

659
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:54,880
» and with my motion I say and with the
decision about posting at the discretion

660
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,839
» second that any further discussion all
in favor

661
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:04,200
» I thank you Brian
>> thanks to all appreciate it

662
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,200
» be looking to run soon

663
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:14,960
to consider request from the video tech
rep for an advisory vote regarding two

664
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,920
potential compromise formulas.
>> All right. And I I know there's a lot of

665
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:22,559
written material. I did want to just
show you and I'll let me do a screen

666
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:27,040
share for those who are watching home.
Uh there's kind of a neat little model

667
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:35,760
that uh
uh uh Bernie Cohen and uh Rowley had put

668
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:41,839
together and then I made I uh kind of
worked with it. He done different

669
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:47,520
uh Excel worksheets for the different
scenarios in Neil's uh memo. What I put

670
00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:49,520
in was I kind of integrated it all
together. So

671
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:55,119
» which page do you want there?
>> Well, so so in Neil's memo

672
00:48:52,400 --> 00:49:00,319
» the packet. Yeah, it it basically is
talking about this hybrid of Alpin

673
00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:03,760
capital cost through a combination of
the current formula which is based on

674
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:09,119
» table in my packet.
>> Uh the substantively yes but but no the

675
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,599
numbers are
>> correctly on the screen. No, not not

676
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:18,480
yet. No. So, so the current allocation
of capital is based on total sto school

677
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:24,319
age population
K. No, not K. 1 through 12. Rated 1

678
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:29,280
through 12. So, the allocation is
proportional to how many

679
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:33,520
kids live in your city or town.
>> And is that the as of October issue?

680
00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:37,920
» No, that's that's been
>> that's been less than. Okay. Good.

681
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:43,599
Right. So, so and this is you know
broadly seen I believe as by many other

682
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:47,760
communities as inequitable because that
has no relationship to how many students

683
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:51,680
are actually sending. So this has been
where the kind of discussion has has

684
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:56,559
landed. There are some communities
saying it should be entirely based on

685
00:49:53,359 --> 00:50:00,480
how they are rolled at Whittier and
there are others namely behavioral

686
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:06,240
saying it should be how they like it how
it is because that current formula

687
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:10,480
benefits behavioral because they have um
you know proportionally more students

688
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:14,559
attending than they do this low
population. Neil in the spirit of

689
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:21,599
compromise came up with well how about
if we did this blending of the two and

690
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:28,000
in his memo he looked at 50/50 we're 50%
based on 1 through 12 50% based on

691
00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:31,760
enrollment or 3070 or 7030 or some
difference

692
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:37,280
» right and he's he's and and I think some
of the discussions at the rack meetings

693
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:42,559
have have been I think can be simplified
to the point of u Neil kind of saying is

694
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:47,760
we don't want the perfect to be the
enemy of the good. So even if everyone

695
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:52,079
even if most people could agree that a
per pupil

696
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:56,960
might be the optimal way to do it per
enrolled per enrolled pupil uh because

697
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:03,680
that's very clearly position rally and
the court and perhaps others

698
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:08,480
I there's a recognition that you need an
11 nothing vote to amend this agreement.

699
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:16,000
So if the city of payroll is simply not
going to open the agreement, you can be

700
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:20,400
on the side of virtue all you want, but
you're then at a stale and you're then

701
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:24,640
at a position.
>> Correct. Correct. And you're then at a

702
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:30,960
position where you're with the current
agreement 1967 for the foreseeable

703
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:35,599
future. So at that point the scenario
becomes the capital costs that are

704
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:39,680
brought forward are under the current
formula. So that's where there's just

705
00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:43,359
been this real question of what can can
we find some middle ground. Everyone's

706
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,720
going to have to move. April's going to
have to move because they're going to

707
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:52,319
they would lose relative to the current
formula and others might might gain they

708
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:56,640
might not gain as much as they would
like to in terms of financially but

709
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,960
we're trying to find the middle ground.
So, so maybe it's premature to put put

710
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:06,880
this up on the screen, but but what this
does just so so you know kind of as the

711
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,200
discussion goes, we can so if I go share
based on grade

712
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,240
» well before you go into the numbers.
>> Yes.

713
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:17,359
» So, we've talked we talked about this
previously and

714
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:22,000
» there was this question about April
wanting to be if they were willing to

715
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:26,800
agree to some other allocation they
would want to be indemnified. Is that

716
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:33,359
this as well? No, they want to be well
harmless. The term they were using

717
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:36,319
to be clear introduced that never said
that. Neil introduced that whole

718
00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:41,040
harmless concept.
>> Hard hold meaning that in the future if

719
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:45,760
the
if the their share were to go up that it

720
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:50,720
wouldn't that the whole
>> No, no. what what he's what is the whole

721
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:56,880
» Yeah. What the point he's trying to make
is that um to paraphrase is I think he's

722
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:01,920
saying
be because it's really like it's either

723
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:07,359
like a 9 to2 or 10 to one like it's very
much you know most people I think would

724
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:11,040
go to for a pupil if it was just about
kind of what's right.

725
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:15,920
» Sure. But but I think he's he's trying
to be kind of politically shrewd and

726
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:19,200
acknowledge that look
>> the mayor's got to sell this to the

727
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:25,040
council
>> and they all then have to get thrown out

728
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:29,119
of office over this. So he's trying to
find like what can the mayor sell?

729
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:32,160
» No, I'm with you. That is the whole
story.

730
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:37,520
» So the whole Parl's idea is that under
the former proposal uh the former school

731
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:42,559
proposal at the current capital
allocation April would have been on the

732
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:48,800
hook if that had passed for a certain
amount of money. So Neil is saying that

733
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:56,079
if this project goes forward and if it
ends up at Northern Essex and if being

734
00:53:52,640 --> 00:54:02,000
at Northern Essex results in a
significant reduction of some costs for

735
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:07,280
instance there are certain things that
in the MSBA's process we'll go into

736
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,240
that. If it if it results in a lower
cost

737
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:14,880
» Yeah.
>> then then

738
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:21,760
there is a path for habil to accept a
formula that is less favorable than the

739
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:25,760
current one if their dollar exposure is
comparable to what it would have been

740
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:30,079
with the old project
>> if it's capped with that.

741
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:34,640
» Yeah. And it's not it's not like a legal
>> No. Yeah. Right. But it's more political

742
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:38,319
» an agreement to for the other towns and
cities to eat what would have been a

743
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:44,880
larger share
>> and cost offsets and ideally a major

744
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:49,119
infusion of state money. That's where
Chris has correctly pointed out that's a

745
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:53,280
big assumption. I mean that's a big
>> is that part of his hold harmless meals

746
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:59,440
that it doesn't have state money.
>> Yeah. His model is showing Oh god.

747
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:02,720
» Yeah. option it the op did do the
options reflect the whole harmless

748
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:07,520
option one or two because they're both
50%.

749
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:11,280
» Uh they're both 50%. One is showing uh
it should the variable there is how much

750
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:13,920
is it getting
>> state

751
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,559
» from the state but the formula is the
same

752
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:20,079
» so that this reflects the whole harmless
ideal

753
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:23,839
» ideal and does it work without the state
infusion

754
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:27,599
is there a hold harmless mechanism no
way

755
00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:32,400
» no because inflation's happening and the
project that was voted down early 2024

756
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:36,880
by the time this comes back to the
voters in a couple of years you'll have

757
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:41,680
that much more inflation. So the same
project going forward would be more

758
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:46,240
costly and and even if it goes to NCC
and you can reduce some cost on

759
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:49,520
administrative offices or ball fields or
parking or different things where

760
00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:56,520
there's some synergies and and reducing
some of the cost. This is going to be a

761
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,520
very expensive project in add

762
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:04,000
I would have no patience for a
discussion around something that isn't

763
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:10,160
going to happen. You know what I mean? I
mean, good on Neil for bringing it up,

764
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:13,440
but it it seems so uncertain.
And how often is there do these meetings

765
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:18,559
happen?
>> Well, they've been happening more often

766
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:22,880
as we've gotten toward the finish line.
>> Not every week.

767
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:26,319
» No, no, no, but like uh roughly monthly.
We We had two in June and we'd have two

768
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:29,760
in July. So, as we
>> trying to get to a resolution,

769
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:30,640
» is anything getting closer?
>> Yeah.

770
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:35,760
» Oh,
>> yeah. Yeah. what the capital funding

771
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:41,359
because there's a hundred other or not a
hundred but there's a you know probably

772
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:45,359
15 other policy issues in this region
but this is really the one that's the

773
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:50,119
one this has been the one right along
and and

774
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:50,119
um

775
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:56,400
I think there's I mean
>> how far from a resolution is it

776
00:56:54,480 --> 00:57:02,480
» well we will find out when the committee
meets next week but I will tell you that

777
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:09,119
when this process started Mayor Barrett
was absolutely adamant that she would

778
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:12,400
not open the agreement if there is any
change to the capital funding formula.

779
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:14,559
Period. That was an absolute
>> That was the starting point.

780
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:18,240
» Yeah, that was the starting point. And
then on the other side, you have rally

781
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:23,760
saying we are not going to agree to
anything but per pupil. So there has

782
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:26,240
been movement
>> plan is bringing things closer.

783
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,960
» Yes.
>> So do we have any do you need anything

784
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:34,000
from last?
>> Well, so but what about the rally plan

785
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:36,640
though? How does that work?
>> That's um

786
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:41,839
» you had a chance to digest that?
>> Not fully digest it now. And I think

787
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:45,359
» the uh competi
>> not just that's just the pure per

788
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,880
people.
>> It's pure.

789
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:52,240
» It's all it's completely different.
>> Oh, there's another one from Rally.

790
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:55,839
» Yeah, this is
>> it's the one in the packet, but it's the

791
00:57:54,319 --> 00:58:00,880
one that was said I received it Monday
afternoon. However,

792
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:05,200
» so so the other issue is how many people
need to agree. So one of Chris's

793
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:09,359
criteria is that that 50/50 would have
to be accompanied by 2/3.

794
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:14,960
» Yes. Rather than
>> so what Mr. Colin from Rally is

795
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:16,880
proposing is that each community has a a
weighted vote.

796
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,760
» Oh,
>> based on, you know,

797
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:25,760
» their assessment, which kind of gets it
for twothirds, but um

798
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:28,559
» but it doesn't not twothirds of the
communities, but twothirds of the

799
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,359
weight, right?
>> Right.

800
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:35,520
» Well, that is something there.
>> Yeah. But it's just it's a lot to take

801
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:39,680
in. You know, how how are you going to
compare those two options? I think new

802
00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:44,559
report and rally are expecting this to
get equal. Um

803
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:48,400
» and the weight is based on
enrollment

804
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:54,319
» the percent of the way your operating
cost assessment. Yeah. Seats

805
00:58:51,839 --> 00:59:00,640
you know less strikes.
Well,

806
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:06,799
and a change to the
agreement will require legislative town.

807
00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:11,440
Yes. Not
>> all 12.

808
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:14,640
» But could it be changed by the state
legislature at all?

809
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:19,599
» Legally,
yes. But politically, yeah.

810
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:23,760
» If there's not consensus among the
cities and towns through their their

811
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:30,480
local legislative process, Yeah. I think
it puts the legislators in a tough spot

812
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:36,680
as to why would they then overturn what
their constituents have voted for town

813
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,680
meeting our city council

814
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:41,599
show some leadership and brave influence
it's tough

815
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,160
» and it may come to that
>> I mean Bruce Tarant

816
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:57,760
no percent district though is
representation.

817
00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:01,040
» So, can you put that chart back up? I
just want to compare

818
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,400
» from from
>> Yeah.

819
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:08,200
» or the one you did that
>> Yeah.

820
01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:08,200
Just want to compare it to the

821
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:19,440
» You can pull that bar.
>> Yeah. And Yeah. How do I uh this bar?

822
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:24,799
either I just kind of pull it off to the
side and disappear and drag it over to

823
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:29,760
the side. Right click and pull way up
top. Oh, there. That's better. That's

824
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:36,720
much better. And then it disappear. So,
what I what I try to do here is this.

825
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:42,400
This is more of a dynamic model where
you can change your the two cells shaded

826
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:49,839
in bright yellow are kind of the
editable cells. So right now it's 100%

827
01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:55,359
based on the uh on 1 through 12 0% based
on enrollment. So what this does is if I

828
01:00:52,640 --> 01:01:01,680
change this to say 50
then it goes and then this uh far right

829
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:06,240
column with the yellow, red and green is
the conditional formatting. So that kind

830
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:11,680
of immediately draws your attention to
what's the relative impact

831
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:20,079
compared to the current formula. So
under the current formula

832
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:27,599
um uh behavioral got for example
you know 43% of the student population

833
01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:35,359
68% of enrollment
and so if we go to you know 100% based

834
01:01:31,359 --> 01:01:41,280
on that then then they have 43% of the
capital so it's unchanged obviously but

835
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:47,839
if you go to say you know if If it was
90% based on that and 10% based on

836
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:54,640
enrollment, they would uh you know they
would be you know two and a half% worse

837
01:01:51,119 --> 01:02:05,119
off and other communities would be uh
somewhat better off in terms of their

838
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:10,319
their their share. So this so who under
the 50/50 that that shows they're

839
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:16,400
basically you know 12 and a half% worse
off um you know Newberg po would be

840
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:22,240
about four four and a half% better off
and and others have some variation and I

841
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:26,880
think it's much more
appropriate to focus on percent than

842
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:31,280
dollar because we have no idea what kind
of cost and what the revenues are but

843
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:39,920
but you can toggle so this carries 200
million if it was, you know, 400 million

844
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:45,920
um that's 40 which uh but that's I mean
you can run and have the same thing on

845
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:49,200
dollars. I think that's that's can be
very easily misunderstood because we

846
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,079
don't know what the dollars are going to
be if really we're talking about the

847
01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:57,599
percentages.
>> So

848
01:02:53,440 --> 01:03:02,400
» so is part of Neil's proposal the two/3
>> I mean is that part

849
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:08,720
» to amend the agreement? Yes, that's been
separately addressed and there is uh

850
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:12,799
there was a 10 to one vote
to support going to a with two/3

851
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:18,000
threshold to amend the agreement with
the one

852
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:22,799
» so and and I think that's something that
you know in my opinion mayor Barrett

853
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:28,240
took that position because she had to
but I do believe I don't know this but

854
01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:31,920
she certainly haven't told me this but I
believe that as it goes forward she

855
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:36,960
understands that is going to need to be
compromised. And so I think that's, you

856
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:41,119
know, kind of her laying down marker.
But I think she knows that in order to

857
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:44,480
get this amendment, this agreement
amended,

858
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,160
» it's going to need no one's going to
support

859
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,880
» doing this again.
>> Yeah.

860
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:55,760
» Yeah. Right.
>> All right. Um,

861
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:59,039
so will two/3 be part of the motion or
is that a sub?

862
01:03:56,559 --> 01:04:01,760
» Uh, well, you know, it could be and if
that's conditional on for

863
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:06,160
» I think that's what Chris was saying
last week that you would consider this

864
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:10,799
and that's 2/3. Is that your
>> No, I think that's right. I'm I'm

865
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:15,200
equally interested in the weighted 2/3
as the actual 23.

866
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:21,280
» Yeah. So I'm looking at that and he's
looking at the operating cost assessment

867
01:04:18,319 --> 01:04:25,680
versus and that rather than the capital.
So I'm a little bit confused by but I

868
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:31,440
guess you're not really ready to speak
to it.

869
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:35,200
» No, I have capitalism. Sorry.
Um

870
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:40,640
so there's been email correspondence
that rally and new report will not roll

871
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:45,760
this. Um, I don't know if that means
that they only want what is proposing or

872
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:49,920
what's happening. I think we just have
to decide.

873
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:55,359
» How does Rowley's
How do they compare to us scientists in

874
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:59,400
terms of share?
They have 3.7%

875
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:05,920
compared to 3.1.
>> Yeah.

876
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:09,359
» In terms of the student population,
>> uh, they're at 19 students. were 11

877
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,880
students.
>> We're the two small.

878
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:15,799
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

879
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,799
» How is Raleigh just

880
01:05:15,839 --> 01:05:21,680
support
calling shots if you will?

881
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:25,680
» I think Newbury reports enrollment is
fairly low compared to their population

882
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:31,680
of students,
>> right? 2% of the enrollment.

883
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:35,400
» Yeah.
saying very

884
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:41,920
» it's just interesting to me that Raleigh
is

885
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:46,319
» it's almost like having North Dakota as
senators sort of running things in the

886
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:50,559
US Senate.
You know, we got the population of

887
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:55,200
Manchester and New Hampshire.
>> Well, I think it's the whole thing about

888
01:05:51,920 --> 01:06:01,920
it being unanimous. even small players
but I have them making so many you know

889
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:08,559
those demands and this is they're here
they are vetoing the same way the

890
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:13,200
largest thing that it seems odd they
would not want the

891
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:16,640
twoirds
they don't want two

892
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:20,240
» it's not that I I don't fully understand
the proposal I mean is he going to

893
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:25,520
present it at the meeting I guess or
>> well like I said in my and I you know I

894
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:30,240
got this kind of Monday and
>> no.

895
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:34,480
» Yeah. I and you know the way I kind of
try to thread the needle in in my

896
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:37,839
transmitt memo because I kind of felt
compelled to send around what I

897
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:42,000
received. I
>> I think if this was not the last meeting

898
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,960
coming up, I would have handled it
differently.

899
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:48,559
» Yeah.
>> Uh but it is the last meeting and so I

900
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:54,400
felt compelled to circulate it. And then
what I said is I you know if if the

901
01:06:51,359 --> 01:06:57,839
committee wants to put it to a vote,
we'll put it to a vote. If the majority

902
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:01,839
of the committee says we don't even want
to put the round of things to a vote,

903
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:07,359
I'm not going to put it to a vote. Um
>> so that would be the vote first.

904
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:12,240
» Yeah. So so I would look for a majority
vote of you know there six or more. So

905
01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:19,359
there could be a majority vote to put it
to a vote and then you know the outcome

906
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:22,960
of the vote could be but um
I don't know if it will be put to a vote

907
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:26,160
if if there's only two communities that
want to put it to a vote. I'm not going

908
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:32,559
to put it to a vote. I think that in
itself will speak volumes but uh

909
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:36,559
you know I don't know you know this this
was sent out I think you you probably

910
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:40,400
saw one of them the distribution list.
This is going to select board members,

911
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:46,319
town managers, town administrators,
mayors, um the busiest people in these

912
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:54,240
communities. Are they going to absorb
this by next week's meeting and confer

913
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:57,760
with their leadership to know what their
community, you know, to give their best

914
01:07:56,079 --> 01:08:02,240
guess as to what they think their
community might be willing to accept in

915
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:05,680
in a in a short amount of time. Neil had
put his proposals on the table back in

916
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:10,799
June
>> in a lengthy in a very detailed memo. He

917
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:15,200
he supplemented that with an additional
two-page analysis maybe a week or two

918
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:19,120
later that's now going to be before the
committee a couple of meetings. So so

919
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:22,799
when that comes to a vote next week
that's not a surprise. That's something

920
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:26,560
people have been chewing on for
>> you know at that point six or seven

921
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:31,279
weeks. So, I think it's kind of asking a
lot

922
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:35,520
» to absorb it and be able to vote on it
>> in a way that you think is fairly

923
01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:39,640
representative of what your community's
position might be. Yeah.

924
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:46,880
» So, are we are you looking for a vote
from us on this or

925
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:52,400
» Well, you you will be at the rack game
next week on behalf of the town. Uh I

926
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:56,719
will be there as well. Um, right now I'm
the voting member for West Newbury.

927
01:08:54,799 --> 01:09:00,560
Chris has been the non- voting member or
the backup.

928
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:03,600
» Uh, what I would strongly recommend is
that I

929
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:07,199
» take myself out of that. I'm not going
to be here.

930
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:12,239
» And uh, so I think you should be
prepared to cast a vote

931
01:09:09,839 --> 01:09:18,560
» as uh, although
>> if it's a honestly like Chris was

932
01:09:16,719 --> 01:09:21,279
appointed. We'll have to talk about that
or tell me how how you want me to vote.

933
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:26,480
» Okay.
>> If if it comes to that uh but you know

934
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:32,880
I'll be looking to you for guidance if
you want a vote from Barry to

935
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:40,239
» what's going to be voted on.
>> What's going to be voted on is whether

936
01:09:36,159 --> 01:09:44,239
question of the uh 5050 split between
the you know whether that's something

937
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,839
that that
>> proposal vote.

938
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:51,920
» Yeah. And the vote is also whether to
consider rallies for I I would think

939
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:56,080
that that's going to be a vote as well.
>> I will ask I will ask the committee to

940
01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:03,040
take that out. I don't know how well
we'll see is is

941
01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:07,600
I see the letter from Mayor Reed to
Raleigh Select Board saying we think it

942
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:14,000
should be based only on enrollment but
that's just their posture. You think new

943
01:10:10,719 --> 01:10:18,560
reports behind a 5050?
>> No, I don't. Yeah. No, I

944
01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:23,360
» I don't think they will vote against it.
>> Yeah. And and I think the fact that that

945
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:28,719
letter was sent several days ahead of
rally select board taking this up um is

946
01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:34,679
indicated to me that they've been kind
of working together for some amount of

947
01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:34,679
time.

948
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:42,560
» So it's
>> I mean I think I I would vote to allow

949
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:46,480
Bradley to present their idea.
>> Yeah. Um, I think that's reasonable.

950
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:50,640
» Yeah. Yeah. I don't think there there
should be there should be any

951
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:55,040
concern about just putting something to
a vote other than the fact that I've

952
01:10:52,239 --> 01:11:00,800
been very meticulous with this committee
of doing straw and then a subsequent

953
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:04,239
meeting because I I wanted to make sure
that by the time we're taking a vote

954
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:08,560
knowing it's a high-profile situation
and the press is covering it, I didn't

955
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:11,360
want anyone to feel like backed into a
corner of wait a second, you're asking

956
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:14,480
me to vote something I've just seen for
the first time in this meeting, you

957
01:11:12,719 --> 01:11:19,199
know. So, I've been very meticulous
about let's let's chew on it, have a

958
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:24,800
straw hole, and then put it to a vote at
a subsequent meeting because we only

959
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:28,000
received rallies a couple of days ago. I
just think that's that. But if the

960
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:33,040
committee wants to if they're
comfortable taking a vote, we'll take a

961
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:36,640
vote on our
>> I just want to have it presented so that

962
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:39,960
I can more fully understand it.
>> Yeah, sure.

963
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:47,640
I don't think I can fully evaluate them
against each other and which one is

964
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,640
better.

965
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:56,840
It's 1.3% for capital with 1.7 for
operating. How does that compare meals?

966
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,440
So it's a little bit higher.

967
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:08,480
I mean, I'm looking at it for the first
time, but from the viewpoint of it's not

968
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:12,480
so much,
you know, we're going to end up slightly

969
01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:16,000
different, right? It's almost like
what's fair,

970
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:20,560
» right? What makes the most sense and
reasonable going forward? And the two

971
01:12:18,719 --> 01:12:26,080
components are
>> I think a more substantial even if it's

972
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:30,560
not 100% a more substantial portion of
the allocation should be for actual

973
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:33,600
money. And that just
>> yeah,

974
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:38,719
» it seems opposite, right? I mean, Mayor
Reen's letter was

975
01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:43,679
schools across the Commonwealth have all
moved towards actual norm based

976
01:12:41,679 --> 01:12:44,960
allocations because that's because it
makes sense.

977
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:47,920
» Yeah.
>> Why pay based on your students who

978
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:52,400
aren't going there?
>> And then the other piece is finding a

979
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:58,719
compromise that waits or otherwise
eliminates the 100% voting. So, however

980
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:04,719
you want to get there,
not taxpayers western not that it's like

981
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:11,440
let's shoot for the least number. I I
wouldn't want to just be that parochial

982
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:16,239
» because that will land like with a thud
every town could do that when April sort

983
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:19,440
of do
I don't think we should.

984
01:13:17,679 --> 01:13:25,600
» That's my input.
>> And if I could just speak briefly about

985
01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:33,360
about philosophically why
I think some u consideration of both

986
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:37,360
enrollment and school age population
that arguably makes sense

987
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:41,360
» and that's that obvious the enrollment
speaks for itself but the school age

988
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:46,560
population I I think there's an argument
to be made that a community that is

989
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:51,760
within the within the district
they and their population and their

990
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:57,600
students have a benefit in the district
and those students having an option to

991
01:13:54,560 --> 01:14:02,640
go to that school whether their students
choose to or not. There is a benefit to

992
01:14:00,719 --> 01:14:07,040
being in the district. And so that's
where I think when you're dealing with a

993
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:10,560
capital cost that's paid off over 30
years and not just who's there that

994
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:14,560
year, but a generational or
multi-generational impact. I think, you

995
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:20,239
know, for instance, in the town of
Rowley, I think that residents of

996
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:26,159
Rowley, taxpayers of Rowley benefit by
their students having that option in a

997
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:29,760
more of a like longer term than just a
single school year

998
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,320
» on capital specifically as opposed to
operators.

999
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:35,120
» They do two different formulas, capital
and operating.

1000
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:38,719
» Well, it is right. So, the oper the
operating is based on enrollment and

1001
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,120
ever it's an agreement.
>> Oh, that's awesome.

1002
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,280
» And that's how it's been since 1967.
>> Oh, I see that. And that's never been an

1003
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,719
issue.
>> That's never been the issue.

1004
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:48,320
» Just the capital.
>> Just the capital. And I think

1005
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:51,760
philosophically there is a how much of
that benefit

1006
01:14:49,679 --> 01:14:57,199
» but I do think there's like a legitimate
philosophical pace of why you would have

1007
01:14:54,640 --> 01:15:01,280
» it should be something other than 100%.
Based on enrollment

1008
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:06,239
» I think so as a as a resident not as
West Newber but as a as a

1009
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,960
» but I guess the challenging thing is you
have the opportunity but there's no

1010
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,000
guarantee you'll get in. I mean the
acceptance rates for other towns are

1011
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,199
vastly different.
>> Correct.

1012
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:19,679
» So um that's that's another issue.
>> Yeah. Now now with the new lottery

1013
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:23,600
system that's uh kind of introduced some
new variables there because they and

1014
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:27,920
they've had um
>> applications growing up quite a bit from

1015
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:32,640
many different communities.
>> Would it enrollment

1016
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:37,760
expand with the new facility? So the
MSBA's approval for the project to to

1017
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:41,920
get into advantage of the feasibility
which was the vote taken on June 24th by

1018
01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:48,560
the MSBA
is covering a range of 1280 which is the

1019
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:52,159
current design enrollment up to 1500. So
that's part of the decision that the

1020
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:57,120
school building committee will be making
through feasibility is to they design

1021
01:15:54,480 --> 01:16:00,480
something for the current headcount up
to 1500. It will be any more than that.

1022
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:04,239
And there's mixed feelings in the
communities about that because some of

1023
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:09,040
the communities are concerned about
declining enrollment in their regular

1024
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:13,120
schools. So the idea of having for
instance in Georgetown more students go

1025
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:18,080
under Whittier. They have very real
concerns about the financial impact that

1026
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:21,080
would have on Georgetown's high school.
Yeah.

1027
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,600
» All right. I feel like they understand.
>> Yeah. Really help.

1028
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:30,480
» Yeah.
>> Um so you're saying that they may not

1029
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:34,159
let me vote.
>> They pro honestly they probably won't

1030
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:37,280
because the everyone who's on the
committee was appointed by the school

1031
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:41,120
committee. It's a subcommittee of the
school committee and they were all voted

1032
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:48,000
in a school committee meeting and
appointed and uh so for instance we had

1033
01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:52,800
uh in in Marramac uh it was Chris Manny
and then his term ended so it was Wayne

1034
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:56,719
Adams Wayne came to a meeting but he
actually couldn't vote because he hadn't

1035
01:16:54,560 --> 01:17:01,760
been formally appointed by the school
committee. Uh and there same thing in

1036
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:05,120
one of the other communities where
someone came to a meeting but they

1037
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:09,440
weren't yet formally appointed. So, you
have not been appointed by the week.

1038
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:13,040
» So, I mean, so why is it critical for me
to go?

1039
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:16,960
I mean, I thought I was like filling in
for Chris because he couldn't be there.

1040
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:20,640
» Uh,
I suppose it's not critical. If you want

1041
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:24,480
to tell me how Well, I mean, it's
there's more business we'll cover at the

1042
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:28,000
meeting than than this. And, okay, you
know, he's been at every meeting. West's

1043
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:31,520
had, you know, two representatives
there. So, and I think if nothing else,

1044
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,239
it'll definitely give you some some
insight. And they're they're pretty

1045
01:17:32,719 --> 01:17:40,239
they're good meetings. We have, you
know, typically 25 or 30 people there,

1046
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:43,199
including, you know, people observers.
Uh, so they're pretty dynamic. I think

1047
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:47,280
you'll enjoy it.
>> No, but in terms of the vote, um,

1048
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,120
» I was under the impression that I had to
vote for.

1049
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:52,000
» It wasn't until the last few minutes
that it occurred to me that I'm like,

1050
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:55,040
"Oh, wait a second. Okay.
>> Hey, you can't cast the vote because

1051
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:58,159
you're not actually the committee."
>> But you But you just said you aren't

1052
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,400
going to be allowed to vote.
>> No, I am the voting.

1053
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:06,239
» So, you can vote.
>> I just say the right thing to do is to

1054
01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:09,040
somebody that you know because I'm
>> a short time.

1055
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:12,960
» I mean, you're still in the spot and
you're still the one authorized by the

1056
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:16,640
» Yeah, but I'm so I could say what I
think and you could just vote that.

1057
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,080
» That's exactly what
>> Yeah.

1058
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,480
» Are you comfortable with that?
>> Very comfortable.

1059
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:23,040
» I'm comfortable with it.
>> Very sorted that out.

1060
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,640
» Good.
>> All right. And and to be honest, that's

1061
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:29,280
kind of out with Chris. He he he and I
we were largely aligned than anything

1062
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:34,800
but it was
>> and that was where one of the folks back

1063
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:38,560
in June I had put a abstension because I
think he had to leave the meeting early

1064
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:42,880
and I didn't know where he stood and I
didn't want to pour to

1065
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:47,600
» speak on behalf of West Newbury. You
know I want to make sure everything I'm

1066
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:51,760
saying in a voting path is in sync with
what he felt which is appropriate. So

1067
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:55,040
very
>> all right Mary, did you have a chance to

1068
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:57,040
look at the minutes that were emailed
out today?

1069
01:18:56,719 --> 01:18:58,480
» Yes,
>> you did.

1070
01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:04,400
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah, those reflected he had sent.

1071
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:08,719
» Oh, yeah.
>> Um any How about July 2nd? Any changes

1072
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:12,560
to those?
>> No, I I move you.

1073
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:18,080
» You can move.
>> I move that the minutes of July 2nd

1074
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:22,960
select board meeting be adopted as
distributed.

1075
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:27,600
Second. Um, I just wanted to I said this
to Rebecca already. I think she did an

1076
01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:30,960
amazing job that I was thinking how is
somebody gonna write minutes for those

1077
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:33,520
interviews and she did a really great
job.

1078
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:37,440
» All in favor?
>> I

1079
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:40,400
» I All right. And July 9th, any changes?
Are we all set?

1080
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:46,400
» Motion.
>> Move the minutes of July 9th, 2026 board

1081
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:52,960
meeting be adopted as circulated.
>> Right. A second. All in favor? I

1082
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:57,440
» Okay, moving on to general discussion.
Um update on the organizational

1083
01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:02,800
assessment. The committee met with the
consultant uh last week uh to give them

1084
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:05,920
feedback on the interim findings. So now
they're going to take that feedback,

1085
01:20:04,239 --> 01:20:12,400
come up with recommendations and they're
expecting to get us a report by mid

1086
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:17,840
August maybe. Um, on the town manager
search end of things, um, uh, John

1087
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:21,440
Peter, the consultant, and I met with a,
I think I mentioned this last time, the

1088
01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:25,760
PR firm that's writing, they're writing
a a statement that will be part of the

1089
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:30,560
posting for the permanent town manager
position. So, I provided her a bunch of

1090
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:35,920
information. Um, so they're looking to
post that in mid August with responses

1091
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:41,280
due by midepptember
with the end goal of having the decision

1092
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:45,360
by the end of that.
So depending on notice requirements, I

1093
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,760
think first of the year is probably a
reasonable start date, but

1094
01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:52,840
» yeah.
>> Um, next step is post meeting in August.

1095
01:20:54,320 --> 01:21:02,560
Um, I guess was there any uh discussion
on with at the employee meeting about

1096
01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:07,440
» uh no I think you know we we kept kept
that very general but kind of just along

1097
01:21:05,679 --> 01:21:13,280
I didn't have th those details on the
posting but I I said you know a draft

1098
01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:17,440
report expected u this summer
report expected to be finalized in

1099
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:22,080
September and that at that point uh some
of the kind of open positions uh or

1100
01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:26,320
where we're kind of holding off on
posting things to finance partner or

1101
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:30,080
whatever that we expected that there
will be clarity to look forward coming

1102
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:33,480
out of that final report. So they
counted pretty

1103
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:41,120
» uh let's see item B is status of hunting
Montana on tenner land mission program.

1104
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:46,320
So Barry this is something we're working
on I think you know from

1105
01:21:43,679 --> 01:21:50,000
» so uh the intent was to have a program
in place for this hunting season but

1106
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:55,440
just with everything else going on I
don't see that happening. We have had a

1107
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:59,199
couple inquiries about hunting. Um, one
of which is the gentleman that we

1108
01:21:57,199 --> 01:22:03,600
grandfathered in last year because he
hunted that property um, historically.

1109
01:22:02,239 --> 01:22:09,440
So, he's already reached out and
answered the commission. Um,

1110
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:13,120
so just wanted to make you aware of
that. Um, Rebecca is telling the other

1111
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:19,520
people that are asking that that's
probably not going to happen this year.

1112
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:24,320
any um
>> um this is just for deer or is it for

1113
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:27,760
all the seasons
turkey and

1114
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:32,800
» um it's the the request that we had was
for deer bow hunting that's what we

1115
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:36,239
heard last year Justin summer broke that
person

1116
01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:42,480
» do we know what the other requests were
for was it for any specific properties

1117
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:47,120
» um she didn't say it was a she
>> and when does that season start

1118
01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:49,280
» a deer starts October 1st, I think for
Sweden.

1119
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:52,400
» So, we'll have a new chance to indicate
it done by

1120
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:57,280
» I I can't see a path. I mean, it's going
to be, you know, we have um

1121
01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:01,520
conservation commissioners responsible
for some property, so they'll need to be

1122
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:05,760
in line with select.
>> Were they inclined or was it included

1123
01:23:05,199 --> 01:23:10,159
since
>> No, I mean, we we developed the

1124
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:17,040
application at least and we had Mr.
Groitis fill that out which required on

1125
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:19,760
part of it. Um, but that was just for
that one property. You know, we have to

1126
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,719
look at all the properties and with
Snoopy figure out where we're going to

1127
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:28,400
have them do.
>> I mean, I'm happy to

1128
01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:32,239
look at it, see if there's any chance to
move on, you know,

1129
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:37,840
» think there'd be significant staff
involvement, which I'm not sure. Yeah,

1130
01:23:35,679 --> 01:23:43,199
» I guess. Do you agree with that?
>> Yeah, I Well, I I guess it depends how

1131
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:49,600
you handle it. I I I I've been I haven't
been that involved with this. So, um I

1132
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:53,520
mean other than observing it. Uh but I
think you you're familiar with the kind

1133
01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:57,920
of report that was presented in May of
2025,

1134
01:23:55,199 --> 01:24:02,880
» right? So that's kind of the pandemic
progress made since then.

1135
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:08,080
» I mean, I like deer, but there are too
many of them. And I think from a just

1136
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:14,159
public safety standpoint,
vehicles and ticks, I'm I'm in favor of

1137
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:19,520
appropriate hunting. So if we can
facilitate it, I'd like to try a plan.

1138
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:24,159
» Yeah, it's just it's a big project.
>> So I think right now the select board

1139
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:29,920
could under the town bylaw, I believe,
could approve hunting on a specific

1140
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:35,440
property under your care and custody. I
think part of where it becomes a lot

1141
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:38,639
bigger issue is on what basis do you
make those approvals or not and how do

1142
01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:43,679
you get administer that where it's
consistent.

1143
01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:47,760
» Yeah. But who would who would is the
form of the approval would not be a

1144
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:50,320
license or anything would be for an
individual

1145
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:54,639
» be permission permission for an
individual or for anyone.

1146
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:58,480
» So even if we had a town program it
would still be individual applications.

1147
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:03,040
» Yes. We have to make sure they have the
correct license and all of that. So,

1148
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:08,080
» why don't I forward you the application
we developed and we can take this up at

1149
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:11,760
another meeting if it's something
>> and if it would be more than just the

1150
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:15,360
compound doing it.
>> Well, the select board is the entity

1151
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:19,040
that has to grant approval
>> even if it the compound then has to

1152
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,920
» but we're saying if it's on improper
they should require.

1153
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:25,280
» Yeah. I mean, if you don't mind rather
than just shelving it up, I can send you

1154
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,639
that. I'll take a look. From I
understand your point, there are other

1155
01:25:26,639 --> 01:25:30,000
priorities, but you know, if there is a
way to get it done.

1156
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:34,159
» Yeah.
>> And it's something we can take up with

1157
01:25:31,679 --> 01:25:39,120
the interim time manager
in the midst of everything else he's

1158
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:43,199
going to be dealing with. But
>> yeah, I I kind of just feel like, you

1159
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:48,400
know, we'll probably entertain the
application for Mr. Tra

1160
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:51,280
again, but whether it goes on that can
look.

1161
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:56,159
» Okay. Thanks.
>> All right. Um item C, continue

1162
01:25:53,920 --> 01:26:02,800
discussion of the cost allocation form.
This is the uh October. Now we're to

1163
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:06,000
January, right? Is that the current
number?

1164
01:26:03,679 --> 01:26:11,679
» Uh yeah, basically the numbers that are
submitted in October and then and then

1165
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:16,880
validated in January, but it's it's uh
it's still the October 1st numbers. So

1166
01:26:14,639 --> 01:26:21,679
that got clarified.
>> I I I would like to see a letter that

1167
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:24,400
everybody agrees to. Yeah. everybody
mostly being in.

1168
01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:30,320
» Yeah.
>> So since since the meeting we had on

1169
01:26:26,239 --> 01:26:34,080
Tuesday, um uh Rebecca Olden took a stab
at changing the former letter to reflect

1170
01:26:33,679 --> 01:26:37,600
that.
>> Okay.

1171
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:42,480
» She did send a draft of that to me in
peril late Tuesday. It was actually

1172
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:45,760
while I was putting this packet, but I
wasn't going to put that in because I

1173
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:51,120
wanted to make sure. And and so my
response back to her was, "It looks good

1174
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:56,239
to me." and Carol subsequently got back.
I think on Wednesday she sent a note so

1175
01:26:52,800 --> 01:27:00,639
she could but I said to Rebecca Olden
what's going to be most important is

1176
01:26:57,679 --> 01:27:07,600
that Kentucky finds that language clear
and I believe they will.

1177
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:12,880
» Okay. Uh so that's uh so so that is uh I
think gonna be something she's reviewing

1178
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:17,840
with Justin and Suzanne and then that's
going to go to you or to to Rebecca and

1179
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:21,199
Sean and uh presumably come up at a
meeting in in August. Okay.

1180
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:24,880
» Because it's already drafted. It's just
I didn't want to put it in there until

1181
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:28,480
kind of like till everyone's viewed it.
>> Yeah. So they are moving adjusted into

1182
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:32,560
this top.
>> Oh yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This Yeah. We

1183
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:35,840
This was a major focus. So the the
finance scheme meeting we had October

1184
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:40,800
this week
>> and everybody was in uh

1185
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:47,600
» uh I actually I actually used Rob's
term. I said pile agreement and and uh

1186
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:50,960
it's very effective. So
>> any other updates from that meeting?

1187
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:55,920
» I do actually. I have a couple of pages
of notes and I won't go into every every

1188
01:27:52,800 --> 01:28:02,719
detail but uh we covered a lot of a lot
of issues. Uh one thing just on this uh

1189
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:06,960
a portion the method
uh part of what everybody would like and

1190
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:10,560
everybody agreed. So it's just a matter
can we get the words on the page to say

1191
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:15,719
yeah
>> so do we have we voted on the letter

1192
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:23,760
before you yeah there was a draft before
you in June it was table

1193
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:27,600
clarity of process and now it's going to
come back to you

1194
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:31,679
» um and and then yeah you would be asked
to vote in a letter and then I just I

1195
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:36,800
wrote down in my notes
>> the objective is to memorialize this in

1196
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:41,600
their budget book so that when they send
their budget book it's very clear this

1197
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:44,480
is how it and that way it's just and
then it's done. So

1198
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:50,480
» sorry.
>> Uh let's see. So a lot of the discussion

1199
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:55,840
was on
uh Jonathan Seymour gave uh an update on

1200
01:28:53,600 --> 01:29:01,679
all of the many many capital projects
that they're doing in all of the

1201
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:06,560
district schools. It is a lot. Uh so you
know in page there's the sewer line

1202
01:29:04,239 --> 01:29:11,760
replacement uh or repairs that's that's
turned out a big project uh but that's

1203
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:16,159
on track. Bag now. They're doing paving
out front with granite curbing, new

1204
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:21,840
cameras, new door fobs, playground
improvements, phone upgrades, a couple

1205
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:27,280
of plums. We have some hazardous
materials abated in Marramac. There's

1206
01:29:24,159 --> 01:29:35,120
some floor abatement. Uh page uh the
elevator work. Uh there's a u

1207
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:40,400
uh the the gym floor. uh and there was
some discussion of that that the uh

1208
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:46,000
insurance uh adjuster then said that
there was water underneath the floor. So

1209
01:29:43,679 --> 01:29:49,920
even though only a portion of the floor
was affected, that's why they basically

1210
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:53,520
declared it a whole loss and so they
just got to replace the whole floor

1211
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:57,520
because there was so but that's on
track. Um

1212
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:03,520
middle high school we talked about the
auditorium. Uh he said they're 95% done.

1213
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:07,760
It's going to be ready for the opening
of school in September. Uh some of the

1214
01:30:06,239 --> 01:30:10,719
details you talked about there's new
projection screen that was unordered

1215
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:15,120
because the projection screen was
damaged. There were some sound system

1216
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:21,440
items that were damaged as part of the
smoke. I mean it's just mind how how

1217
01:30:18,159 --> 01:30:25,360
destructive this small fire was. U but
he did say it will be online for the

1218
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:30,400
school year. Another thing they were
working on that way building high school

1219
01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:35,040
the administration building as you know
that was as part of the school building

1220
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:40,960
project that was uh it was agreed that
the former a portion of former middle

1221
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:45,840
school u which still remains next to the
football field is going to be the

1222
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:51,120
administration building. All these years
they're still housed up in Marinac. Uh

1223
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:57,920
so uh they said they started framing
that out uh as part of the partial

1224
01:30:54,719 --> 01:31:02,639
building demo of the middle school. All
of the electrical wire had been pulled

1225
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:05,679
out of that building. So they've got a
they're putting out a bid for the

1226
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:10,880
electrical to rewire the entire
building. Uh there's a the demo company

1227
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:16,639
for the middle high school pulled out
all the wire. I don't think they were

1228
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:20,960
supposed to. They did. Um and they're
working with Whittier actually uh

1229
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:26,400
students on doing some of the sheetrock
and HVAC. So, but I was like, "Wow,

1230
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:29,760
Jonathan, like they are busy." So, it
was just really interesting because this

1231
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:34,239
was by far the most comprehensive
briefing on some of the kind of physical

1232
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:38,960
projects they're doing. And then there
was some discussion of this letter I put

1233
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:42,400
in from the governor on the uh student
um the additional money.

1234
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:55,120
So uh uh basically this proposed
additional per student uh $1212 per

1235
01:31:52,320 --> 01:32:00,960
student uh that this would come to the
district as a grant uh not as part of

1236
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:07,199
the chapter 70
and that there is potential that because

1237
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:11,120
this is additional money coming in it
could reduce what they actually need to

1238
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:17,600
have charged charge the towns through
the assessments and and so there is a

1239
01:32:13,679 --> 01:32:22,239
potential that they would be uh actually
reducing the assessments which could

1240
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:27,280
allow the three towns to go back to the
fall town meeting reduce the approved

1241
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:29,679
budget prior to setting the tax rate.
>> Oh, nice.

1242
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:34,159
» And so the advice particularly from
Mayor Mack and Broman was if you can do

1243
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:38,320
that that would obviously help them with
their tax rate but it would be a real

1244
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:43,120
show of good faith. Yeah. um rather than
just having that go into excess and

1245
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:46,880
deficiency. So that's not in any way
guaranteed, but they are actively

1246
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:51,920
working on that. So there's a scenario
where you hear from Kentucky, you know,

1247
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:56,159
in in the next, you know, four to six
weeks to say, oh, because of this

1248
01:32:53,840 --> 01:33:00,960
additional state money, the local
assessments have gone down a bit, not a

1249
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:06,480
lot, but a bit, and you could choose to
put that on a fall town meeting as part

1250
01:33:02,719 --> 01:33:10,400
of budget. So that could be coming. So
any idea of the scale?

1251
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:16,080
» Uh not.
>> So 200 million in all?

1252
01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:19,920
» Yeah. So it's $12 per student.
>> Yeah.

1253
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:23,760
» I'm I'm talking about the Wong state.
>> Yeah, that's okay.

1254
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:25,840
» Right. That would be that's what I guess
that's what the number that's been

1255
01:33:25,199 --> 01:33:29,199
talked about.
>> Okay.

1256
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:33,920
» That that comprises that 200 million. So
this is one time revenue. So if they do

1257
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:38,239
that, it's going to set the communities
up next year for a bigger hit. And

1258
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:42,320
Jonathan was really clear about that.
Even if the assessment goes down, the

1259
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:46,320
overall operating budget, you know, that
is going to make it. So So is that the

1260
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:49,199
governor's letter? 200 million.
>> Correct.

1261
01:33:46,639 --> 01:33:52,080
» So 100 million's transportation and
infrastructure. Another 100 million is

1262
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:58,159
schools.
>> So it's the 112 per student 100 million.

1263
01:33:55,280 --> 01:34:03,520
» Yeah, I think that's what comprises that
that amount. So, so I just wanted to to

1264
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:08,480
bring that up because that, you know,
that I don't think that makes a big a

1265
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:12,639
difference in West Newbury u where
there's more levy limit, but it it does

1266
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:17,920
uh make a difference in the other two
times,

1267
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:24,320
but it would also contribute to the FY28
budget side of a greater increase.

1268
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:28,840
So, it's
it's you know, it's onetime revenues.

1269
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:37,600
And and so the the you know uh Carol
Mloud was saying you know I wish they

1270
01:34:34,639 --> 01:34:43,199
just give the money to us to the cops to
pay our school bill and jobs said and I

1271
01:34:40,639 --> 01:34:47,440
100% believe him. He said he's been
advocating that for years that you

1272
01:34:45,440 --> 01:34:51,280
should just if you have this give it to
the towns

1273
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:54,239
but that's not and everyone said the
state's never going to do that like

1274
01:34:52,639 --> 01:34:58,000
because they want politically they want
oh we gave the schools but it would

1275
01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:01,920
actually administrators would work a lot
better if they gave it to the towns to

1276
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:06,080
help us pay our bills to the school but
that's just not how it is that because

1277
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:11,600
they don't think the fund would go to
the school maybe they couldn't earmark

1278
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:16,639
it and require it to go to the school
I'm not Sure. I I mean well there have

1279
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:23,520
been instances where
uh where towns or cities have received

1280
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:29,920
additional money from the state
earmarked for education and then have

1281
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:34,239
reduced their appropriation so that the
schools aren't actually getting more

1282
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:40,639
money. They're just reducing local money
because it's over. So I think there is

1283
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:43,120
some kind of paternalistic
>> Yep.

1284
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:52,000
Okay. Um, we got a correspondence. We
have the TEC report

1285
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:58,960
» and due to the size that was posted a
separate packet. So,

1286
01:35:54,159 --> 01:36:01,120
» and KP noticed about the GL48 amendments
>> significant changes in there.

1287
01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:05,280
» Yeah.
>> Very significant.

1288
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:07,199
» So, but we kind of have to wait for
regulations to come out, right?

1289
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:12,080
» Yeah.
>> But this is retroactive to July one. So

1290
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:15,280
what what do towns do in the meantime?
Like you're supposed to be following

1291
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,360
this, but they don't tell you how to do
it.

1292
01:36:15,679 --> 01:36:20,960
» I think Sam's
>> I bet.

1293
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:25,440
» Have you followed this at all or is
zoning not really in your

1294
01:36:22,239 --> 01:36:27,360
» No, it is, but I haven't sort of taken a
deep dive yet.

1295
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:30,360
» Yeah.
>> Um

1296
01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:37,679
I mean it actually loosened up some
requirements as of right.

1297
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:40,080
» I think that's the idea.
>> Yeah. And I think that just to get more

1298
01:36:39,440 --> 01:36:42,800
housing,
>> yeah,

1299
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:47,560
» that's not a bad thing, but it does
affect how Sam's going to have to do

1300
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:56,679
» Okay. Anything
on the um PC report or

1301
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:04,119
» Oh, we had a presentation of the last
couple weeks ago.

1302
01:37:04,719 --> 01:37:10,400
» Oh, and you said the TDC.
>> Yeah. the traffic.

1303
01:37:08,719 --> 01:37:14,000
» Yeah. No, I
>> All right.

1304
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:19,600
» Yeah.
>> Okay. Um items for future meeting

1305
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:25,199
agendas. So, we talked about having like
a workshop meeting with Sean on August

1306
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:28,440
7th. Uh any things you want to include
on there?

1307
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:37,840
» Well, just confirming. So,
you have a contract or I'm entering

1308
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:42,880
Yeah.
>> Yeah. It got the things were resolved

1309
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:46,480
and signed. I guess they had
>> Yeah. Did you Are you not on the town

1310
01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:50,639
email? We get the the notice that
>> must not be

1311
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:56,239
» Yeah, we crafted him statement.
>> Oh, I I missed that.

1312
01:37:52,239 --> 01:38:00,800
» Yeah. Are you you're not on town email?
>> Could you please pull up the homepage

1313
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:04,800
and show Barry for
I have trouble keeping up with the

1314
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:10,320
emails I get now.
see right there.

1315
01:38:06,719 --> 01:38:13,920
» Oh, I mean I can go to the town website,
which I should one I'm done, but I don't

1316
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:18,560
need to. So good.
>> So I I sent that email out that next day

1317
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:20,159
after our meeting now.
>> Yeah.

1318
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,080
» So it's all good.
>> Wonderful.

1319
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:25,679
» Yeah. So
>> yes. So back to the item is

1320
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:29,520
» Yeah. So I thought we would talk about
meeting structure. I think we should

1321
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:37,679
touch on public comment because that has
been such a hot item lately. Um

1322
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:41,760
maybe uh let's see talk about the work
plan. I mean typically we meet in the

1323
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:45,199
summer and we revisit the work plan and
establish priorities for the next year.

1324
01:38:43,679 --> 01:38:48,639
So I don't know if that's too much to do
in this meeting with Sean first meeting

1325
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:52,000
but
>> so we would typically do that and then

1326
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:56,320
we would invite board committee chairs
in to talk about what our priorities are

1327
01:38:54,000 --> 01:39:01,679
and get feedback from them. So that's
usually what we do in the summer. So

1328
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:05,760
some are all that I would cover. Yeah.
>> In that meeting, um, we talked about

1329
01:39:03,679 --> 01:39:11,199
working on the mission statement for the
town.

1330
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:16,239
» Um, I mean, that's quite enough in that.
>> Well, yeah. And I just I mean, Ian's got

1331
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:19,199
your
>> Well,

1332
01:39:16,719 --> 01:39:22,639
» transition planning document the best.
>> Yeah. I mean, I haven't been provided,

1333
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:26,239
but I'm going to meet on Thursday. I'm
going to be going through

1334
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:30,560
» like to hear his input on what he would
prioritize in there. Well, so usually

1335
01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:34,480
what we do is as a board define what our
top priorities are for the year, just

1336
01:39:32,639 --> 01:39:40,000
not like specific projects, but last
year it was regionalization of services

1337
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:44,639
where possible, you know, water supply.
>> Yeah. No, I get that, but I'm with the

1338
01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:48,880
first discussion with him, we want to go
that far or is the first one like he's

1339
01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:52,000
got to hit the ground running a little
bit too, right?

1340
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:54,159
» So, what I'm talking about is the select
board deciding what our

1341
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:57,440
» yes
>> priorities are. So I think we can still

1342
01:39:55,760 --> 01:40:02,480
have that discussion maybe along with
the mission statement for the town.

1343
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:06,560
Um
but but I think the work

1344
01:40:04,239 --> 01:40:09,280
» so just so this would be at the meeting
Chris will be back.

1345
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:14,119
» Yep. August 7th 4:00.
>> Well, this is the argument that 7.

1346
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:21,840
So at that meeting
that's a regular meeting. It's not a

1347
01:40:18,719 --> 01:40:24,239
special. It's not an added one. So
that's going to happen. No, it's in

1348
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:28,480
place of the August,
>> right? So that's going to have the

1349
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:31,119
regular agenda anyway.
>> No, it's just going to be it's just a

1350
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:35,280
workshop like
>> just the workshop.

1351
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:40,159
» Yeah, just for these items to kind of
>> So there won't be any other items on

1352
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:43,840
there for discussion. Okay.
>> No, then now I I didn't know that it was

1353
01:40:42,719 --> 01:40:49,040
just the workshop.
>> Yeah. So we usually do that in July and

1354
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:53,360
chart our course for the next year. So
if the timing works out well, I think

1355
01:40:51,119 --> 01:41:00,159
that you can get Sean.
>> So um to that end, is there a working

1356
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:03,440
list of
future priorities that you and Chris may

1357
01:41:02,239 --> 01:41:06,320
have been
>> I can last year?

1358
01:41:04,719 --> 01:41:08,560
» Yeah, I can send you the packet that we
presented to the boards and committees

1359
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:12,679
from last year.
>> Yeah, I would appreciate that.

1360
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:26,719
And
>> and where are we on mission statement?

1361
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:29,119
» We didn't start. Chris left his possible
versions, but

1362
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:31,199
» these were the five options.
>> Well, that those are ones he

1363
01:41:30,639 --> 01:41:36,639
» Yeah.
>> or claw generated whatever

1364
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:40,400
that'll be part of the work
>> if we have time. I think this is an

1365
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:48,239
ambitious agenda.
>> Need to focus on passing. Okay.

1366
01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:52,960
Um, I guess anything you think we should
highlight to get started?

1367
01:41:50,159 --> 01:41:55,040
» Uh, no, not not that isn't reflected in
the transition plan.

1368
01:41:54,080 --> 01:42:00,639
» Okay.
>> So, your meeting on Thursday.

1369
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:04,400
» Thursday. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, maybe you and I can come here

1370
01:42:02,639 --> 01:42:10,000
to what you're covering with them and I
hope they're

1371
01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:14,159
good. Okay.
>> All right. Anything else? Any other

1372
01:42:11,679 --> 01:42:16,560
future agenda items for Eric?
potentially hunting once you take a look

1373
01:42:16,239 --> 01:42:19,560
at
>> Yeah.

1374
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:26,880
» Hi.
>> And one just brief thing for our future

1375
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:31,600
agenda. We we talked about a little bit,
but I do know that uh Charlie Roza would

1376
01:42:29,679 --> 01:42:36,639
love to get a special event for next
summer's concert series done sooner than

1377
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:39,040
later because even though I told him 100
times it's not.

1378
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,880
» I thought he was going to do a facility
use.

1379
01:42:39,679 --> 01:42:43,280
» Oh, was that what was
>> Yeah, that's what we decided. Oh, okay.

1380
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:46,480
Good.
>> Had confidence that was

1381
01:42:44,480 --> 01:42:51,440
» Oh, good. Okay, good. I just didn't want
cuz he he he expressed some some concern

1382
01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:55,360
that he put a he starts booking next
year's shows in like September and he

1383
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:59,920
has something and I told him this is not
a you they're not going to put it down.

1384
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:05,520
But but I just want to make sure he can
proceed with with uh confidence and not

1385
01:43:03,119 --> 01:43:08,719
he he because it was a new requirement.
He was a little stabilized.

1386
01:43:07,119 --> 01:43:12,159
» Actually, I'm pretty sure I corresponded
him with

1387
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:15,440
» Oh, good. Okay. Good. Good. The special
event is more like are there conflicts

1388
01:43:13,679 --> 01:43:17,600
with other areas? How do we, you know,
plan for that?

1389
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:19,679
» I think that one I
>> Yeah.

1390
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:25,280
» And
I it's not our decision obviously, but

1391
01:43:22,159 --> 01:43:30,000
that reups
five issue with the church.

1392
01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:36,000
» Yeah. I'm I'm curious and I'm wondering
whether we I would just for information

1393
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:41,840
purposes I would like to hear from the
organization that's hoping to place

1394
01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:47,600
people in that residential setting a
little bit more about what the period of

1395
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:53,520
occupancy would be for this first group
setting aside

1396
01:43:50,239 --> 01:43:59,119
for a health community what's the maybe
it's been something I haven't read but

1397
01:43:55,360 --> 01:44:02,800
what's the plan to is this for these 24
families or whatever the number was.

1398
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:05,600
» It's it's four units
>> or 24 people. There's like a number I've

1399
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:09,199
seen.
>> Yeah.

1400
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:13,760
» But is that
>> are they going to be in there long term

1401
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:18,880
or is it a transition?
>> It's permanent. Not permanent, but it's

1402
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:23,600
meant to be where they live. And then
and then if that if a family that was

1403
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:28,080
there for some period of time were to
move on

1404
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:33,119
» they that organization will be the only
one that could bring in another

1405
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:34,800
have we seen a document that describes
that

1406
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:40,320
» there's not really
>> not the long

1407
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:44,159
» so I'm just sort of curious if if it
depending on where it went at some point

1408
01:44:42,719 --> 01:44:47,760
if the I don't know when the board of
health is going to have an actual

1409
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:51,679
application where it
I think August their August meeting.

1410
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:54,080
» So their August meeting they're going to
actually take the court.

1411
01:44:52,719 --> 01:44:59,119
» That's what they said.
>> Well, depending on where it goes, if

1412
01:44:55,920 --> 01:45:02,560
they prove it, I'd be interested in
learning more about the long

1413
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:05,119
» how it's going to be managed.
>> So I guess we can wait to see what

1414
01:45:04,239 --> 01:45:08,080
happens.
>> Yeah. Because if it's not approved, then

1415
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:10,320
it's Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1416
01:45:08,480 --> 01:45:18,320
» And then but there's still zoning issues
to be dealt with. Board still

1417
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:21,800
» from just an overall I'm curious if it
goes that far.

1418
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:28,159
» Okay.
Um,

1419
01:45:26,719 --> 01:45:30,320
» she is. Although, actually, we're going
to set up a separate

1420
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:36,880
» Oh, okay.
>> But all right. I move that we go into

1421
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:40,880
executive session for MGL chapter 30A,
section 21A, 3 and 7.

1422
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:44,080
» Second.
>> All in favor, please.

1423
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:51,679
Okay, we will return to open session for
the sole purpose of adjournment

1424
01:45:49,119 --> 01:45:55,239
following executive session.
Thank you very much.