1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,800 meeting, order, can we do roll call, please? Mayor Branson. Mayor Judge Smith. Commissioner Mr. Smith. 2 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:14,120 Here. Commissioner Navier. Here. Commissioner Totsau. Here. We have more. 3 00:00:14,500 --> 00:00:16,540 Okay, we all stand for the occasion of pledge. 4 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:24,360 Thank you. Thank you for the strength. Thank you for the ability to sum a lot of sales here together. 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:30,400 Your presence and our candidates will help us to govern and guide our sales meeting according to your divine will and purpose and duties. 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:30,400 Thank you, 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,820 ladies and gentlemen. 8 00:00:35,820 --> 00:00:38,880 I'm gonna say thank you for the demand. 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,980 I'm just saying one edition. 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:48,710 I got an invisible will you look into this as far off. 11 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:54,490 Thanks to welcome everyone out to our September 16 meeting. 12 00:00:55,950 --> 00:01:01,110 This time we have an opportunity for the public to address the Commission on the 13 00:01:01,110 --> 00:01:04,590 Can you read the forum statement, please? 14 00:01:08,650 --> 00:01:10,190 When it's speaking before the city commission, 15 00:01:10,510 --> 00:01:13,070 please make sure you get the full name and address for the record. 16 00:01:13,390 --> 00:01:15,470 There's a three-minute time-let for a public comment. 17 00:01:15,690 --> 00:01:17,470 Please adhere to the city's forum law, 18 00:01:17,610 --> 00:01:18,750 so include Article II, 19 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:21,690 192-24, the city was a close-up ordinance. 20 00:01:22,330 --> 00:01:24,330 The city's charter provides a commission 21 00:01:24,330 --> 00:01:26,530 in a term in its own room procedure. 22 00:01:27,210 --> 00:01:29,530 Those rules and participate at persons participating 23 00:01:29,530 --> 00:01:31,250 in any regular or special meeting 24 00:01:31,250 --> 00:01:32,850 by by standards of conduct 25 00:01:32,850 --> 00:01:36,150 or may not think to participate in that particular meeting. 26 00:01:36,370 --> 00:01:38,590 Speakers will be called in the Orwich DRC. 27 00:01:39,110 --> 00:01:40,670 The city clerk is charged with notifying 28 00:01:40,670 --> 00:01:41,930 a speaker with time limit. 29 00:01:42,590 --> 00:01:45,030 It is unlawful any individual to disturb or disrupt 30 00:01:45,030 --> 00:01:47,230 a meeting in the committee or a few to a bit 31 00:01:47,230 --> 00:01:50,690 of order the mayor or the dining officer during the meeting. 32 00:01:51,450 --> 00:01:52,470 Any comments or questions? 33 00:01:53,010 --> 00:01:54,570 By the public shall be directed to the mayor 34 00:01:54,570 --> 00:01:55,490 for the dining officer. 35 00:01:56,070 --> 00:01:57,650 The mayor is invited to laws and cities 36 00:01:57,650 --> 00:01:59,330 to order from a room and any spirit of future 37 00:01:59,330 --> 00:02:02,070 to comply with is the cause and regulations of the city. 38 00:02:04,350 --> 00:02:05,850 Thank you. 39 00:02:06,210 --> 00:02:12,110 At this time, again, the opportunity for the public to address commission, we do have one 40 00:02:12,110 --> 00:02:13,150 Carolyn Hardy. 41 00:02:21,230 --> 00:02:21,730 Thank you. 42 00:02:21,950 --> 00:02:27,910 Carolyn Hardy's 40th, 30th, was 18th Street, 617, 19th, was 20th Street. 43 00:02:28,230 --> 00:02:38,530 This evening, I'm coming once again to ask that the commission's and mayor, please 44 00:02:38,530 --> 00:02:50,150 maintain the military at 7.9 as it was last year, and also serve as a reminder that even though 45 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:59,590 the military was reduced, lowered, I should say lowered, that the tax bills were higher last 46 00:02:59,590 --> 00:03:04,350 year, and they will be higher again this year, because as I stated, 47 00:03:06,410 --> 00:03:07,330 and unfortunately you 48 00:03:07,330 --> 00:03:13,030 on some of you missed the presentation by the representative from the Puppet Appraisal's office. 49 00:03:13,330 --> 00:03:14,610 Last week, 50 00:03:17,090 --> 00:03:27,090 the assess value of our home property values is the driving force of why tax bills are the way that they are. 51 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:33,990 Yes, granted the military helps some, but at the end of the day, it's based on the value of the property. 52 00:03:33,990 --> 00:03:40,270 and we all know that the value of properties nowhere is going down. They're going up. 53 00:03:40,730 --> 00:03:46,930 And I would appreciate as a property owner of three separate properties. 54 00:03:47,390 --> 00:03:51,870 I would appreciate if you would maintain the military at 7.9. 55 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:54,010 Thank you. 56 00:03:54,370 --> 00:03:59,250 Thank you. The opportunity for the public to address the commission is now closed. 57 00:03:59,450 --> 00:04:03,290 We'll move on to item number six resolution under consent. 58 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:09,530 a resolution the city comes to the city was part of Florida containing the budget hearing 59 00:04:09,530 --> 00:04:15,530 from September 3rd, 2020, to September 16th, 2020, 6th, and 6th, and 6th, and 6th, 60 00:04:15,530 --> 00:04:17,790 rescheduled in the second final blank hearing day. 61 00:04:17,950 --> 00:04:22,350 Authorised in the administration to take a necessary and expediting action, providing for 62 00:04:22,350 --> 00:04:24,990 adoption and representation of an effective date. 63 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Thank you. 64 00:04:31,140 --> 00:04:31,700 Yes. 65 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:36,920 Um, second for this question. 66 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,960 It's motioned in second. 67 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,340 Um, discussion. 68 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:42,000 Yes. 69 00:04:42,500 --> 00:04:46,580 Um, once it's, once it's get, um, approved. 70 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:49,620 I'm going to go right into the budget. 71 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,520 I'm not understanding your question. 72 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,160 Can you ask it again, please? 73 00:04:58,620 --> 00:04:59,160 Not the ones. 74 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,680 This resolution gets approved. Are we going to write into the continuing discussion about budget? 75 00:05:11,470 --> 00:05:19,690 If I may, this after this one to the next item, which is military, while you have already considered 76 00:05:19,690 --> 00:05:27,830 the military in abundance of caution, we want you to adopt that military, because it is required to make sure 77 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:34,630 both the budget and the milliderate is adopted at the same mean. So we have to reconsider that, 78 00:05:34,630 --> 00:05:39,210 which is item number 7 and then we go to the budget ordinance. 79 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:48,380 Man, yes. I'm not understanding why this resolution is coming before now because we're here at this 80 00:05:48,380 --> 00:05:57,060 meeting on September 16th at 6 p.m. So I need to understand why this resolution before is now we're here 81 00:05:57,060 --> 00:06:02,600 the meeting. So the way that I understood it is authorizing this meeting for tonight at 82 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,700 16, that was all re-noticed without it being approved by the Commission. 83 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:14,540 Okay, if I may. Yes. This resolution is more than just that. If you look at back up on 84 00:06:14,540 --> 00:06:15,700 the item, 85 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,340 having the meeting we had last time, state and I'm going to please can 86 00:06:22,340 --> 00:06:26,360 and give more opinion on this, we have to consider the state, 87 00:06:26,780 --> 00:06:29,240 I connect the state, Department of Revenue. 88 00:06:30,140 --> 00:06:35,680 It is actually a violation to not adopt both the resolution 89 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:38,600 and the military that is in the meeting. 90 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,460 To avoid in the attachments you have from the Department of Revenue, 91 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:45,080 to avoid a violation. 92 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,360 Is it a manager? Can you put that on the thing? 93 00:06:49,310 --> 00:06:51,690 No, it's an attack. It's in your pocket. 94 00:06:51,690 --> 00:06:59,450 Yeah, I don't have a computer, it's not, I'm writing it right now. Can you put it on the screen? 95 00:07:00,010 --> 00:07:03,850 It's staff can, we can try to pop what I can go ahead and continue to stuff. 96 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:09,290 Well, for full transparency list from the screen, so I could have a line of software that you're talking about. 97 00:07:09,730 --> 00:07:17,210 Okay, the email, if you click on for those who can, if you click a second exhibit from the Department of Revenue, 98 00:07:19,150 --> 00:07:28,010 To allow, to avoid receiving notice of train violation, you may consider it's telling us to 99 00:07:28,010 --> 00:07:33,930 continue today from last time, and that have a date for the meeting. 100 00:07:34,570 --> 00:07:39,520 So, your resolution, you have before, you know, not only speaks to continuing today, it's 101 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:46,380 scheduling the final jet hearing for September 28th is part of the section of a solution 102 00:07:46,380 --> 00:07:47,280 you have. 103 00:07:52,350 --> 00:07:58,870 So if you look into the resolution you see also scheduling the final budget hearing 104 00:07:58,870 --> 00:08:05,870 more the 28th which is on at 6th. Because we have to use this to continue. 105 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:18,500 So, 8.1 is a continuation of the here and for the budget meetings 106 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,520 on the agenda. 107 00:08:24,510 --> 00:08:32,550 8.1 is a continuation of the meeting we had, and so we can want to use that opportunity now. 108 00:08:32,870 --> 00:08:36,710 Not only to continue, but also address some of the questions the last meeting. 109 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,260 Is it a manager? 110 00:09:01,620 --> 00:09:02,500 No, okay. 111 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,780 No, I didn't question. 112 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:04,700 Go ahead. 113 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:13,460 No, the thing that is that, you know, before or before, you set the date for the incident city manager. 114 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:15,540 You know, it's good for you. 115 00:09:16,140 --> 00:09:19,100 For once you know, we have, we can't risk everything. 116 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:22,760 According to state of Florida, 117 00:09:24,260 --> 00:09:30,960 It's imperative for you to contact us the what date that we've heard and even the time. 118 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:36,460 Because we'll try to reach this in one hour when you know that a lot of questions that we had on 119 00:09:36,460 --> 00:09:42,860 conference before we can even decide, you know, adopt the, you know, talk about today. 120 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Today is already already scheduled today. 121 00:09:45,820 --> 00:09:46,640 Prove this by resolution. 122 00:09:48,140 --> 00:09:50,140 You're supposed to be by resolution. 123 00:09:50,140 --> 00:09:59,920 So today is supposed to be when we meet for the second, but we use it to continue the last meeting, otherwise. 124 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:10,520 As you become found in violation of the state study, by not adopt both. So, because you have today, 125 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:29,980 so we decided to use today for that day. The continue, because the states say, we are 126 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:36,260 All right, know you cannot, because then you, for the next meeting, you have to also 127 00:10:36,260 --> 00:10:41,440 with place the notice, we cannot place the notice for a secondary, for a final hearing, 128 00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:46,340 on to finish this one, and to place the notice is the publication in the newspaper. 129 00:10:48,970 --> 00:10:54,150 And that publication has to, before the application has to happen, we have to finish this meeting. 130 00:10:54,770 --> 00:11:00,130 And that publication will now happen after we finish this meeting, and then the notice in the 131 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,080 Any other questions on item number one? 132 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:13,820 For this item also, I have scheduled conflict for the 28. 133 00:11:19,810 --> 00:11:22,050 So that's not going to be consistent for me. 134 00:11:22,330 --> 00:11:25,950 Okay, the news that is newspaper will have to be. 135 00:11:25,950 --> 00:11:28,970 It's going to be challenge for us to get a news report to move. 136 00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:30,310 But what will be the date? 137 00:11:30,630 --> 00:11:35,410 Then we're going to set it clear out the run and start seeing the news report works. 138 00:11:35,670 --> 00:11:36,810 They may have a challenge. 139 00:11:36,810 --> 00:11:42,890 For a quarter to the email says it can be done in two days, right? 140 00:11:43,210 --> 00:11:46,090 No, that's referring to this mean. 141 00:11:46,830 --> 00:11:54,010 The one for that has to be posted two to five, five to days before the next meeting. 142 00:11:54,650 --> 00:11:57,350 So I have to give it no, not this one. 143 00:11:57,590 --> 00:12:02,270 The one you really need this email is this mean is for this meeting we have it. 144 00:12:02,330 --> 00:12:03,390 That has already been posted. 145 00:12:03,390 --> 00:12:11,750 The next one, the next meeting for the Tensha we had in 2008, but let's discuss that, is the 146 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:17,670 where they said, at the hearing you would re-adopt the related and then the you would then 147 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:23,790 proceed with the normal process for the advertising risk of final hearing. 148 00:12:23,890 --> 00:12:29,670 The normal process for the final hearing is worked to the five before the meeting. 149 00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:36,030 So we need the time, we need the time to be able to advertise that, but in the news for it. 150 00:12:36,330 --> 00:12:40,550 Now, news reports are as dare what I mean, that you have to let them know in advance. 151 00:12:41,230 --> 00:12:44,270 So that advance gave us the 28th. 152 00:12:45,710 --> 00:12:47,810 That's why we're making it the 20th. 153 00:12:47,810 --> 00:12:51,170 Otherwise, we may not be able to do it on another day, however. 154 00:12:51,450 --> 00:12:58,890 If you change the day, it's going to run and try to find out if another day, 29th, but you can't go past that. 155 00:12:58,890 --> 00:13:06,090 three days we have and we're already 30 years well from if we do if we 156 00:13:06,090 --> 00:13:10,930 30 it depends on the paper I've in that day they may not have that day so 157 00:13:10,930 --> 00:13:19,090 state we have to do it our choice is here is to be able to do it the 28 158 00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:24,470 2090 the result went to the 28 because this paper has a restriction and that 159 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:26,530 destruction through us on the 28th. 160 00:13:26,530 --> 00:13:33,950 First lecture, they have to have it yesterday, or by some days, to be able to read for 161 00:13:33,950 --> 00:13:35,190 the 28th. 162 00:13:35,450 --> 00:13:42,290 The day that we had to have it back, you read it, it reserved it only made the 28th. 163 00:13:42,510 --> 00:13:45,170 So we'll push in it if we said another date. 164 00:13:45,510 --> 00:13:51,270 Now, it's up to them, because who doesn't, is it what they say, display it, right? 165 00:13:51,270 --> 00:13:59,290 You know, they're both the display that have to be adjacent to each other, so it's a question of placement and meeting the Sunson or deadlines for that. 166 00:14:01,430 --> 00:14:04,610 But today's 16, so you have more than one each? 167 00:14:04,690 --> 00:14:09,430 Oh no, the newspaper they want their stuff, a particular time on a particular day. 168 00:14:09,610 --> 00:14:13,390 And they do not move. That's why we're stuck with that. 169 00:14:13,490 --> 00:14:17,750 You can care with us. If you tell another day, we'll go find a given option of what? 170 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:23,270 And I mean, if they have those days, this is the one fail on to that date. 171 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:30,270 We were scrambling just to get one from the state of revenue and the newspaper, all of those two people. 172 00:14:30,490 --> 00:14:34,130 So you're having to submit it by this week for it too. 173 00:14:35,110 --> 00:14:38,590 They gave them that they gave it that line of when we have to submit after this meeting. 174 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:44,510 We have to start putting the, they're putting the display out by the way that we're going to get it to them. 175 00:14:44,510 --> 00:14:46,370 So they can have it for that date. 176 00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:53,710 It's a place, not a little thing, it's a whole display in the paper, the full page and that's very premium. 177 00:14:56,210 --> 00:14:59,970 And this email appears that then corresponded on itself. 178 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:11,400 I'm just also sharing the sentiment of Commissioner Evelar, while I was there no outreach by you to us as individual commissions to 179 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,980 because of where this so that we can be prepared to be able to provide. 180 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:26,420 We can't do that. We can't communicate with the missioners about anything for 181 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:31,440 paying to four of the emails to make us aware of information as you receive it? 182 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,660 Let me address number one with discussed stuff like this in open meeting. 183 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,700 You like I just said, you can change it all you want, but we discussed some like this number. 184 00:15:41,860 --> 00:15:47,900 Also, we communicated this to the Chris community, immediately after the meeting, the last meeting we had. 185 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:53,500 It took them to when we were going, you notice that date, that's the date we published, that's the Friday or Thursday, 186 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:55,960 Whatever it is, we published it, they information. 187 00:15:56,540 --> 00:15:58,360 So we have to scramble between them 188 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,940 and the newspaper to be able to get to date. 189 00:16:01,220 --> 00:16:05,440 That said, you can go ahead and give all the date 190 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,920 and then we'll ask the newspaper and see where we are. 191 00:16:08,460 --> 00:16:12,080 Well, I'm available on the 30th September. 192 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,420 That will be put in need. 193 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,980 Extremely close for not only for here, 194 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,420 but for the stream itself. 195 00:16:19,420 --> 00:16:20,300 But that's when. 196 00:16:23,980 --> 00:16:28,960 I don't know if anyone else is available on the 28th or 197 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:34,760 but date is conducive for the entire body, but I am unavailable on the 28th. 198 00:16:34,860 --> 00:16:36,040 I am available on the 30th. 199 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,440 I want to make this fine for me. 200 00:16:41,620 --> 00:16:44,620 When he was fine with me, he was the pleasure of the mission. 201 00:16:44,620 --> 00:16:45,880 I have a lot. 202 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:50,680 Nice, Mayor. 203 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:52,700 The journey is okay. 204 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,140 Nice, Mayor. 205 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:15,920 I just fell down. 206 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,260 That date close or is that okay? 207 00:17:18,260 --> 00:17:21,200 I mean, then when is the deadline? 208 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,440 We will have to ask the paper to have a day out of something that not originally reserved for it. 209 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,000 So, they don't have availability. 210 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:32,060 Do you need to have a backup another day just in case? 211 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,340 Yes, you can. 212 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,320 Yes, you should. 213 00:17:35,700 --> 00:17:38,320 So, we have the 30th as the first request. 214 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,260 Is there another date that we could possibly... 215 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,920 We'll just in case the newspaper says, no. 216 00:17:45,060 --> 00:17:47,400 I think someone mentioned the 29th. 217 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:55,980 Mayor Juan mentioned the 29th but I want to just say according to the city manager the first date that we could have it 218 00:17:55,980 --> 00:18:06,660 We on the 28th that's proposed the news paper constraints. I am only available on 30th again. I say 219 00:18:07,730 --> 00:18:09,030 We also 220 00:18:09,030 --> 00:18:13,040 Mr. Balagans, so you're saying you're going to act them about the 30th 221 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:22,080 And so if we can ask them about the 30th thing, I know that you said that you had already turned in for the 28th. 222 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:23,360 No. 223 00:18:23,620 --> 00:18:25,780 We're going to do that at base time today. 224 00:18:25,780 --> 00:18:26,480 Upon today. 225 00:18:28,740 --> 00:18:29,160 I'm sorry. 226 00:18:29,380 --> 00:18:29,540 Go ahead. 227 00:18:29,620 --> 00:18:29,860 Yeah. 228 00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:32,780 We add the lock that instance. 229 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:34,300 That's what they have available. 230 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:40,000 Now, if we go back and see if they also have the 30th. 231 00:18:40,340 --> 00:18:40,860 That's. 232 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:41,640 We'll do that. 233 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:49,560 That works with the time frame of the state, okay? Is that it works with the time frame of the state that much? 234 00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:55,680 We know it just depends on the newspaper. Okay, and then if that's not available then you'll let us know 235 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:04,020 Well, it's either it's gonna be either that the 308 or the 208. Okay, okay 236 00:19:04,020 --> 00:19:09,680 So I just want to state this record miss a battle on you're gonna ask 237 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,100 It doesn't work, it'll have to go back to the 28th. 238 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:14,320 Sure. 239 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,260 Okay. 240 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,860 So do you want to understand? 241 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:17,880 No. 242 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:25,460 Because it should be able, because it's a longer term, and the 28th is, so it's not like 243 00:19:25,460 --> 00:19:26,420 you're going to make it short. 244 00:19:27,020 --> 00:19:31,440 It's like, you know, you extended it, so if you extended it with your newspaper, I don't 245 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:31,960 see this one. 246 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:33,900 It should not be available. 247 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:40,420 Because the earliest is the 28th, so the 4th, the 3rd should be, you know, should be 248 00:19:40,420 --> 00:19:40,860 available. 249 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:47,760 Yeah, this is exactly why we in or forward to be playing these type of games 250 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:53,140 because I had this tentative budget would have been approved the same, we approved the 251 00:19:53,140 --> 00:19:58,860 military, then we're in this predicament where now we're subject to someone else's availability. 252 00:19:59,660 --> 00:19:59,960 We're put. 253 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:09,060 Not sells at the availability of the news paper being able to have a availability for the 254 00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:14,300 particular reason that we wouldn't have had otherwise had we approved of the attentive budget 255 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:20,460 and we could have gone and made subsequent adjustments or changes, you know, how we see fit for 256 00:20:20,460 --> 00:20:26,020 the final budget. But when we started planning this game for like we did on the last meeting 257 00:20:26,020 --> 00:20:28,940 pertaining to the budget because, you know, 258 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,160 wanting to have their own way. 259 00:20:31,660 --> 00:20:33,080 This is the, these are the consequences. 260 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,400 So we can't say, oh, it should be available, 261 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:38,180 because it's a laterty. 262 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:42,120 Because we're still at the mercy of that particular entity. 263 00:20:43,340 --> 00:20:47,100 That's why we, when it's come time for us to decide, 264 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:51,600 what we can control here, we need to take care of this 265 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,220 then because as we know, and this is nobody, 266 00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:58,840 no one here on this commission's first budget season. 267 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,880 At the beginning of a prior, even by a two budget season, 268 00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:06,940 there's a little dates that we must meet. 269 00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:08,240 Three years. 270 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,800 That's within certain time, districts. 271 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,700 And we do it all the time, and we make sure that we, those deadlines, 272 00:21:17,260 --> 00:21:20,840 so we don't run into situations like this where we're now scrambling at the last minute. 273 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,760 had we taken care of business in the last meeting we wouldn't be in this for 274 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,820 the mid-today you can't not take care of it is not done here to speak and I'm not 275 00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:32,220 not going up there yes I don't need to speak 276 00:21:32,220 --> 00:21:34,780 by one to speak and then I would like to speak there 277 00:21:38,580 --> 00:21:48,600 okay okay so this is what civility is all about right the fact is that we had that 278 00:21:48,600 --> 00:22:01,980 thing the third. And no communication to say that, okay, we're going to have this meeting on the 28th. 279 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:06,900 Are you guys available? Anybody available? Not available? Because of the poor communication 280 00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:14,590 from our administration, this happens will happen. So when Commissioner Smith talking about 281 00:22:14,590 --> 00:22:19,410 not taking care of this from here and there. You have to hold everybody accountable, 282 00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:24,730 including our administrator, City Manager, is to be accountable as well. 283 00:22:25,030 --> 00:22:29,430 You are telling me that you come here tonight with date for the 28th of September 284 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:34,850 and you don't know what the other days are available from the newspaper. 285 00:22:35,250 --> 00:22:41,910 You should have those information. You should have the deadline for the newspaper that we have to submit. 286 00:22:41,910 --> 00:22:47,550 What other days you come here just tripping because what you just put that date and 287 00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:51,750 Everybody has to be here. That's ridiculous. That is ridiculous 288 00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:55,830 So I mean talking about you know when you all 289 00:22:55,830 --> 00:23:02,270 Wonderful information to go there and do stuff and to give to information give to people to 290 00:23:02,270 --> 00:23:07,930 Post on social media that that that that takes presidents over doing the business of the city 291 00:23:07,930 --> 00:23:10,110 Right really that's ridiculous 292 00:23:10,110 --> 00:23:17,070 Come on now. We need to be better. If we're not available here, a commission is not available. 293 00:23:18,690 --> 00:23:24,150 Who needs to contact the commission? You're talking about, or you can't, you would have to do it in the public. 294 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:34,610 That doesn't make any sense. That's what the commission emails and stuff like that we get found to contact. 295 00:23:34,610 --> 00:23:40,830 You're trying to tell us, because you're not on speaking terms with three commissioners up here 296 00:23:40,830 --> 00:23:46,330 You will decide to compute it in the actual meeting and then talking about we have a deadline 297 00:23:46,330 --> 00:23:49,570 Then you can come up with a deadline from the paper 298 00:23:49,570 --> 00:23:54,450 So you want to hope blame us for it. Come on now. That's ridiculous 299 00:23:55,410 --> 00:24:01,030 Mayer, I was getting ready to call you. Go right. Okay, because you were pointing at the 300 00:24:02,790 --> 00:24:09,450 So I share the sentiment of my league, I think that it's a travesty that every time 301 00:24:09,450 --> 00:24:15,470 commissioner Smith wants to blame the commission for decision made by the city manager 302 00:24:16,270 --> 00:24:16,990 unilaterally. 303 00:24:18,010 --> 00:24:23,890 It would have been appropriate for the city manager to email us after getting the response 304 00:24:23,890 --> 00:24:25,130 on September 11. 305 00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:36,690 There's nothing that precludes the city manager from communicating with us as individual commissioners on issues that are time sensitive and which he should have done. 306 00:24:36,930 --> 00:24:43,990 In addition to that he here at the meeting ill prepared knowing that we have up to the 30th to get this done. 307 00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:55,290 It would have been a prudent pan to quarter the news per two tentatively hold each day, the 28th, the 29th, and the 30th to be able to put them in paper, 308 00:24:55,290 --> 00:24:59,970 nine days was coming to the mission to ask us at the meeting and we will be 309 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:10,980 The committee available on any of those days. He did not do that. He is now happening to go back and do work that should not already prepared for us to apply it on at this meeting. 310 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:29,320 So in addition to that reason why the tentative budget was not approved at the first budget hearing was because we're the commissioners and we said that we did not meet at any point with our city administrator to discuss the items that was in the tentative budget. 311 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:43,200 We had only gotten the tentative budget, two weeks prior to the first budget hearing, and we had no time, a lot to speak with our city of ministry about our concerns with the budget. 312 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:49,020 Then when we were at budget meeting, all of the concerns we had was written down. 313 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:51,400 It wasn't even addressed at the light at time. 314 00:25:51,540 --> 00:25:53,120 It was supposed to be addressed to him. 315 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,440 The lady manager was ill prepared to even dress our concerns 316 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,540 of the budget that he prepared. 317 00:26:00,220 --> 00:26:02,660 He'd even addressed the commission's questions 318 00:26:02,660 --> 00:26:05,640 at the meeting in which we act those questions. 319 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,400 He now wants to give us the nonsense 320 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,520 of what our concerns were to respond to them today. 321 00:26:14,460 --> 00:26:17,480 So how could we, in good fact, approve a tentative budget 322 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:23,580 that we had so a plasterer, a question concerning the budget and the allocations of funds. 323 00:26:24,140 --> 00:26:30,820 Just found out on Monday that we'd have undesinated funds coming from our reserves that 324 00:26:30,820 --> 00:26:32,580 was not part of the original presentation. 325 00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:38,980 So I still have additional questions because we keep finding out information piece by piece. 326 00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:44,620 But yet, Commissioner Smith is not concerned with those valid points that are being made 327 00:26:44,620 --> 00:26:50,340 by his colleagues. He's only concerned with attacking his colleagues. And this is contributing 328 00:26:50,340 --> 00:26:57,860 to the debutiveness that all the residents are concerned about. You have no valid input 329 00:26:57,860 --> 00:27:03,340 concerning the concerns of your colleagues. If you have colleagues that are working together 330 00:27:03,340 --> 00:27:10,460 that are sent to you, A, the city manager is not quarantined with us considering sitting business 331 00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:15,980 as he should. That's the concern of yours. But evidently, it's not a concern of yours because 332 00:27:15,980 --> 00:27:22,020 he's indicating adequately with you. But not with three other cards. You're cool with that. 333 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:29,460 You have never stated on record anything that you should be concerning the actions of the city 334 00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:38,460 a minute as far as wrong on professional. And this is what is delaying business. Because I would 335 00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:40,580 not voting on something that I'm not clear. 336 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,680 I'm not going to be voting to approve something just to come back and be banned. 337 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,680 Those are like he did a couple years ago. 338 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:54,160 I still don't have the call savings analysis that we are supposed to be doing for our 339 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,560 residents. 340 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,960 I still don't have the breakdown of the city administrative budget as far as who's getting 341 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:00,460 paid. 342 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,260 How much those benefits are going to work? 343 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:11,820 It's a lot of things that still not transparent that I personally and professionally do not feel 344 00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:17,080 comfortable approving the budget when we don't have all of the variables in order to make a sound decision. 345 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:23,040 If you feel comfortable making a blinded decision on the behalf of the residents that you say 346 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:28,340 that you are advocating for and what, by the way, you never advocate for anything for residents. 347 00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:36,220 Okay, you never do, you never, at any of our men, any questions, you never advocate for 348 00:28:36,220 --> 00:28:38,800 anything positively for our residents. 349 00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:45,280 Everything that comes from your commissionersmith is negatively driven towards your fellow 350 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:45,940 colleagues. 351 00:28:46,420 --> 00:28:47,000 Okay. 352 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,280 Okay. 353 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,260 Are you finished with it? 354 00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:50,540 I'm not finished because this is my time to talk. 355 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:56,240 Every time I go to talk, Mayor, you want to interject with what I'm saying. 356 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,240 Oh, but you should have told Commissioner Smith to focus on the buzzer, but his comment was the buzzer 357 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,580 No, it was not about the buzzer. 358 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,980 You go ahead and finish, please. 359 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:08,460 Stop interrupting me because our charter says it's not to rub a speaker. 360 00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:09,660 I ask him you to finish. 361 00:29:09,860 --> 00:29:10,800 Okay, so that me finish. 362 00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:13,640 Stop running, ruin my train to thought. 363 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,480 Okay. 364 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:17,060 And the next thing would do, Mayor, 365 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,700 you have to understand that this commissioner's meeting is the commission's meeting. 366 00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:27,960 Every time you want to run and give latitude to the city manager, and what's the pleasure of the city manager? 367 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,800 Let me remind you that the will and pleasure of this commission is the authority of the city and not the city manager. 368 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,380 It is not holding to him to make decisions on behalf of this commission. 369 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,480 The commission makes the decisions and the city manager follows those directors. 370 00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:46,940 Make sure that you know that that's clear because that's the oath that you took. 371 00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:47,980 Thank you. 372 00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:48,860 Thank you for coming. 373 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:58,020 If I may, I have to address all the comments that were made, which are not totally false. 374 00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,600 Number one. 375 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:07,500 I'm going to go down the list. It is not appropriate. It is not appropriate. It is not appropriate. 376 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:14,480 on the budget, they on the budget, they on the budget, like I speak, I did not say 377 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,000 word, I did say, there, yeah, so I'm 378 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,960 on the budget, I'm speaking on the budget, I was 379 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,880 speaking on the budget, I was speaking on the budget, I was speaking on the budget. 380 00:30:25,020 --> 00:30:32,060 Mr. Balagan, can you wait a second please, we will allow him to find, we will not interrupt. 381 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,220 That's the Mayor. 382 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,300 We will allow him to speak. 383 00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:39,980 We will be able to enter up. 384 00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:42,560 No, no, no, no, no, no. 385 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,780 Because we allow you to speak and no one enter up. 386 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,960 It's not your main to the budget. 387 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,980 Then he will get in there. 388 00:30:49,220 --> 00:30:51,240 If you can answer, you can respond now. 389 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,280 It was mentioned that the, that the, 390 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,260 It should ascend the email to the commission. 391 00:30:56,260 --> 00:31:00,300 It is not appropriate to ascend the email asking for people to vote. 392 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:04,360 They appropriate thing is to bring it all down and let's kind of just finish 393 00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:10,400 You can vote over who will vote. Oh, I didn't get anything about it 394 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:17,240 That's what I missed a very fine. Mr. Bellagon people don't want to say it 395 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,280 No, so here's what here's what we're not going to do 396 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:29,220 We're going to allow each person to speak out being interrupted now you've said your piece 397 00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:35,960 Let him respond, then the next person to speak is commission a brand and Smith. 398 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:44,060 It wish to speak after that, then you just let me know, and you will be at to it, but give them the respect that your desire. 399 00:31:44,860 --> 00:31:46,120 Mayor Mr. Major. 400 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,020 Just a point of order, Mayor. 401 00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:49,980 We can point of order. 402 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:52,460 It will be a order. 403 00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:54,820 We're not recognizing the point of order. 404 00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:58,320 to be asking to be asked to be stopped and the point 405 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,520 but it needs to be addressed. 406 00:32:00,180 --> 00:32:02,320 Where I have a point of personal privilege. 407 00:32:02,340 --> 00:32:03,880 He can not throw a point. 408 00:32:04,140 --> 00:32:05,560 He's not a member of the council. 409 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,540 Yeah, I can. 410 00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:07,620 He can not. 411 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,000 That code is too late. 412 00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:11,920 Only the word is called a little Barbara on that. 413 00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:13,600 I have a point of personal privilege. 414 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,000 Mayor, you are annoying. 415 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,340 My point of order as a commissioner of this body. 416 00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:21,980 Your background, you will finish. 417 00:32:21,980 --> 00:32:32,280 The point order tape will be preceded, the point of this is, it's more, I was Mayor of order, 418 00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:46,360 if you look out of order, recognize the commission's point of order. When you start calling, point of order, date, you are asked for a point of order, okay, to that end, point of order. 419 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,460 This is really nice. 420 00:32:48,740 --> 00:32:50,220 Point a order. 421 00:32:50,980 --> 00:32:51,620 Mr. Ballon. 422 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:58,360 Of course, when I'm about to make a point order in that we, you see, it's got to be point 423 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,140 of order to drop to me. 424 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,720 You know you have to run. 425 00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:03,280 Point of order. 426 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,300 If you're not, let me speak. 427 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,080 Let me play point of order. 428 00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:11,920 Can you give me a little bit of a little bit of a point of order? 429 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:19,460 next thing you will be next after that. 430 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:51,600 What is water? Nobody's question about the budget. You did not say, of course, why not the order that came here. So people need to know that. 431 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,060 My opinion is what I'm saying. 432 00:33:53,660 --> 00:33:55,980 I'm just water. I'll put our presents. 433 00:34:00,060 --> 00:34:02,120 We have more than a pair. 434 00:34:02,660 --> 00:34:04,920 But nine pieces of questions that were here. 435 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:16,780 The point in the office shows that the mission is not prepared and talking about who's job is prepared to commission that point of order it was so clear that nobody did not read 436 00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:22,420 I'm going to point that out to point of order now. Are you finished? No, I'm not. Okay 437 00:34:22,420 --> 00:34:30,840 In May of order, it was, it was, it was going to be, at this meeting today, in May of order, on this 438 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:38,180 next violence was clearly discussed several times, point of order, that's, that's not correct. 439 00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:44,740 The ill prepared is not part of the staff, we're point of order, we want to make sure you 440 00:34:44,740 --> 00:34:49,380 have it in writing so we can have it in record, just like we did last point of order. 441 00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:52,940 Commissioner Smith you have a floor now. I have a point of order 442 00:34:53,580 --> 00:34:59,980 Do you not understand Robert's rules of order mayor? You have a floor after Commissioner Smith. That's not 443 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,800 And that's not how Robert rules go. 444 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,220 Commissioner Smith was sure. 445 00:35:03,460 --> 00:35:05,540 That's not how Robert rules go. 446 00:35:05,540 --> 00:35:06,900 Commissioner Smith comment. 447 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,500 And that's something Smith knows that that's not not appropriate what you're doing. 448 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,500 And he's not calling you out. 449 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,480 So he understands that appoint the boarder takes. 450 00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:18,540 Great. 451 00:35:18,540 --> 00:35:18,740 Great. 452 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:20,300 Commissioner Smith. 453 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,560 And he does not call you out to let you notice. 454 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,240 This is ridiculous. 455 00:35:24,260 --> 00:35:27,900 Commissioner Smith, you know that appoint of order takes precedes. 456 00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:29,680 and it interrupts the speaker yet. 457 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,700 Why aren't you holding the mayor accountable 458 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:34,620 to her not following Robert rules of water? 459 00:35:34,660 --> 00:35:35,900 That's true. 460 00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:36,040 That's true. 461 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,060 Why are you a contributory party to this foolishness? 462 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,840 So I'm a member of the mayor receiving the meeting. 463 00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:43,740 This is ridiculous. 464 00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:44,560 You have any. 465 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,420 Because you know that the point of order 466 00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:48,120 it was supposed to be taken up before 467 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,780 now in the city manager to speak. 468 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,940 That's like you guys can tell you the meeting 469 00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:53,140 without a quorum. 470 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,500 You cannot continue to implement it without a quorum. 471 00:35:55,500 --> 00:36:00,280 It's not like a point of point of point of point of point of point and it was not recognized. 472 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:00,920 Again. 473 00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,700 The mission is that are you familiar with the points of origin? 474 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,220 Commissioners, Smith, are you finished? 475 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:06,640 Yes. 476 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,260 This is the question. 477 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,260 Commissioners, tell what is your comment. 478 00:36:10,660 --> 00:36:14,200 My point of order is that you are out of order mayor. 479 00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:16,720 You're rooting your gift. 480 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,760 I said, okay, go ahead. 481 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,920 You don't speak at all when I have the floor. 482 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:24,100 Can you say your comment and keep it moving? 483 00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:29,840 Stop interjecting being rude and disrespectful that's you. Yes, so go ahead and say your comment 484 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,520 See your comment. She wants to control so say your comment 485 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,480 Say I need for you to be quiet from the audience also 486 00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:43,620 No, I'm I'm serious. You should not be speaking from the audience that you're first warning 487 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,380 Make sure you apply that pressure to everybody that's the speaking in the audience 488 00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:51,900 She was okay for a time being so 489 00:36:51,900 --> 00:37:01,140 Who wants to be in control now commissioner touched on you have the floor my point of order is that you were out of order for a lounge the city manager to speak 490 00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:06,260 When there was a point of order on the floor the city manager and not 491 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,860 So a motion because he is not a part of this body 492 00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:18,820 He cannot make a point of personal privilege. He cannot make a motion because he is not he is not see how you're allowing him to 493 00:37:18,820 --> 00:37:26,500 to get provide him with the same warning provide him with the same warning can you finish 494 00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:31,560 please provide him with the same warning you finish you're out of order mayor you just 495 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:37,080 are me say to him to stop so that you can finish no you did not say that well you finish 496 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:42,500 please finish your comment and like I said you could changely allow the city 497 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:50,220 a manager that works for us to have a derelict of booties and responsibilities and to 498 00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:56,460 demean the body in which he works for. I understand you would not tolerate for him to speak 499 00:37:56,460 --> 00:38:03,020 to you in the same tone and the same manager to allow him to address this body as you could 500 00:38:03,020 --> 00:38:09,720 tingly allow him to disrespect this body, right? But when the shoe was on the other foot, when 501 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:14,580 When you were in, when you were not in the mayor's eat, and the city manager was treated 502 00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:15,540 some type of way. 503 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,300 You was crying from the mountains and tops to all the prices that everyone was trying 504 00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:21,820 to say that we need to get rid of the city manager. 505 00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:31,040 You had Carolina on the top of review committee saying that we did to reduce the supermajority 506 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,420 of the chart because you wanted to get rid of the city manager in the city attorney at 507 00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:36,080 that time. 508 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:41,540 Now, since you're in the mayor seat, you allow him to everything that you spoke how he 509 00:38:41,540 --> 00:38:47,800 against him doing in regards to you with holding information and even transparency, not 510 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,520 being accountable. 511 00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:52,320 But yet, you think it's funny and cute and cool now, right? 512 00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:53,520 Right? 513 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,940 Because now you're using the city manager of the state scapegoat that throw the rock to you 514 00:38:57,940 --> 00:38:59,020 and hide your hand. 515 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,220 It's not going to be accepted, okay? 516 00:39:01,220 --> 00:39:05,640 Now, to be accepted, it's time for your foolishness. 517 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,760 You need to duck yourself and decency in an order. 518 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:15,860 And the same application that you want residents to apply to all, because when you 519 00:39:15,860 --> 00:39:21,780 have the audience here on the last meeting, a party, and being around, you never want 520 00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:23,640 all of them to maintain order. 521 00:39:23,980 --> 00:39:29,040 You have a bias that you need to address with yourself, and you need it together. 522 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:35,660 You need to get it together and apply rules that you have took a O to a buy. 523 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,280 Okay, Robert rules order is what we abide by. 524 00:39:40,020 --> 00:39:42,100 Charities is not specified differently. 525 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:46,680 So when there's a point over on the day is, 526 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,660 is your responsibility to apply by Robert rules. 527 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,780 All caution is to stop. 528 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,040 The, it could be interrupted with a point of order. 529 00:39:55,220 --> 00:39:58,920 The point of order, the point of order, the point of order, 530 00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,980 and it of e. 531 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:20,560 Member of the Commission decides to go against your rule and we can do so before they vote. That's what the target said. Start applying by what the there's and maybe we won't have, we will have less cognitive meetings, but it starts with you the chair to allow the chaos to go on and they're going to act innocent, you're not innocent, okay, you're not. 532 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,960 So, Mayor from... 533 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:30,000 Mr. Bell, let me just make this day before we move forward. First of all, we model what we want our community to see. 534 00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:35,700 We're up here acting crazy and acting a fool for going at it with feature. 535 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,280 That is what the community sees that our city is. 536 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,520 So, we have the city of West Park as your mayor. I apologize for this play. 537 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:52,820 Because this is not where supposed to be up here to do up here to run the business of the city and to the city better. 538 00:40:53,460 --> 00:40:59,380 So on behalf of myself, I apologize on behalf of the city for this behavior because this is not what we're supposed to do. 539 00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:03,360 We have wasted two minutes of your time on foolishness. 540 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,000 We could have been deciding our budget. 541 00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:11,140 So we will continue to move to the city before we will continue to do the business of the city. 542 00:41:11,140 --> 00:41:19,100 So, please main calm and let us allow the process to go through and you can please continue. 543 00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:24,940 I'm going to so send everything I'm about to say about the runs and I'll do that when I'm making my comments. 544 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:30,160 I know I've been, I have the code space, I have the authority to be able to speak. 545 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,080 I've remeven 16 over 16 years. I've been here several of the lecture officials. 546 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:42,060 And I will on my chest to say this dies will not want to be on these dies if I have not been here 547 00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:48,740 To make sure this city wrong that's it that said we have that we are for nine of the names of 548 00:41:53,020 --> 00:42:00,400 You will the culture the culture that does not allow for decorum and someone just and really 549 00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:15,740 No, nobody want to, but when I feel somebody want to interact with you, that's totally, that's my job to make sure I call the commission when that's happening 550 00:42:15,740 --> 00:42:23,260 It's clear states in my scope when that is happening after let a commission know, but it continues to happen when I'm talking that said 551 00:42:23,260 --> 00:42:29,480 I them is before you let's move past the item. I was suspended and I'm going to address every item that was said 552 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,820 Yeah, I'm just doing a presentation because I will indicate that again 553 00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:37,800 If you have a date, we have a date for the 28th. 554 00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:39,620 The news for just like we reserved, 555 00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:41,100 they reserved with all this. 556 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,660 Commissioner Hayat mentioned earlier that this for the down, 557 00:42:44,860 --> 00:42:46,140 because they deserve for this. 558 00:42:46,780 --> 00:42:49,580 However, I can indicate it if you pass 559 00:42:49,580 --> 00:42:53,940 have the 28th as a 30th as a date, 560 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,300 and then the 28th as a second option, 561 00:42:56,620 --> 00:42:57,860 we'll go and try to receive, 562 00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:00,080 they can move things around and I come with that. 563 00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:02,100 Because I had a city close to it with them for, 564 00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:08,400 And we wanted to make sure we are by by the state of Florida like we waited for them for so long from the third 565 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,940 Today left before they responded 566 00:43:09,940 --> 00:43:16,460 They were going to rule the city in violation of of not of the three violation and they stayed there in there 567 00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:25,340 So we quickly capture the date that they will like agree to so much to do all of that gymnastics to make sure we get a date on here 568 00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:29,920 That said if it's one the third days are the 28 go to the newspaper 569 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:37,480 We try to see them move things around. I'm surprised and all the city clerk do that and we're going to if that doesn't 570 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,360 Is that happens? 571 00:43:38,860 --> 00:43:42,880 Then we'll put it in there, but the state they have is this state 572 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:49,100 But if they make the 28 up the 30 up and we'll push for that. That's why I said that earlier 573 00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:57,100 But we just make it easier Mayor and see whether or not we can just put Oda Sam for the 28 29th and 30th 574 00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:00,520 There's nothing that precludes for canceling meetings, as well. 575 00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:05,300 If we want to make sure that we're capturing all the dates, just put a notice in that we're 576 00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:08,380 going to have something on the 28th or 29th and 30th. 577 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:14,500 But you understand that the consensus of the body is that the availability is on the 30th. 578 00:44:15,260 --> 00:44:21,100 So Mr. Manager, the manager has stated that he will be the first date that we 579 00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:29,120 provided with the 20th and the 30th people check, oh Chris, I'm sorry, we can only have one 580 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:29,840 ad. 581 00:44:30,060 --> 00:44:30,380 One ad. 582 00:44:30,380 --> 00:44:32,800 The state actually will preclude us from having multiple ads. 583 00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:33,740 We need to the ad. 584 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:40,260 No, when I'm saying is in the date of the one ad, why can't it state more than one day, even 585 00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:41,320 that we can have one ad. 586 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,020 The state doesn't preclude what dates we include in that one ad. 587 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:51,080 I wish we had that flexibility, but the state is really specific on the nature and the 588 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,820 They call it, so it has to be to it, you know, at the end of the street. 589 00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:56,140 Can you speak up a little bit loud? 590 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,980 I'm in here. Okay, sorry. Thank you. 591 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,980 At the end of the meeting, we have to notify the... 592 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980 Public of the date, please, and time of the second budget hearing, because this will be the budget hearing continued from the third. The reason is the 18th, you had until he teens to have your first budget hearing. And today is the sixties that barely made that date. So, if I said to say, we do not have the option, what the language of the ad should look like or the dates. It can only be one date, one time, and one place on that ad, and cannot run a multiple dates. We would be a violation of the, of the statute, do that. So, we're going to have to choose a date. I think, though, 593 00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:35,240 from what I'm hearing 30th was like fine for everybody and I pretty sure that that's going to be 594 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:40,180 acceptable to the paper and fall back to the 28th. It's not. I know that's a conflict for you, 595 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:45,100 but I don't think it's going to happen in any case. Okay. The other thing that you said that was just 596 00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:53,040 interest was the fact that we had until the 18th. So being that you all knew that we 597 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:59,920 want to need to have this additional meeting because it was a continuation. Why didn't we 598 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:07,340 schedule something about team? Well that's two days from now and I think the issue for the 599 00:46:07,340 --> 00:46:13,040 state is the original meeting, you have to adopt the milledrate in the tentative budget at the same 600 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:19,300 meeting that was not done. The statutes actually got to plate that event. So when we contacted them 601 00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:24,700 day after meeting. They said it wasn't going to have to be kicked up to management because 602 00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:28,700 there's no, there's no cure that that's specific so they're going to have to make a decision. 603 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,360 The time of that has been a little bit better because that fell on the layman weekends. 604 00:46:33,620 --> 00:46:37,160 So Friday, you know, when in Tallahassee was there, Monday, they weren't. 605 00:46:37,940 --> 00:46:41,840 And they still didn't get back to the still didn't get back to us because they didn't really, 606 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,400 I don't think they knew what to do, but they knew we were out meeting on the 18th. They figured, 607 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,400 Well, that, I'm sorry, this 16th, I spoke, they knew they were having a meeting today, and they 608 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,660 like, okay, that's probably not already, so let's just go with that day, with actually 609 00:46:56,660 --> 00:47:00,860 saying that because I think that's, they're just trying to accommodate what was a problem, 610 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,100 and they didn't really know how to address it. 611 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,040 So there was, you know, when I went back to the next, they look at the statute and the, the 612 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:13,160 trim manual, which is an administrative adoption of the law, which was an address. 613 00:47:13,940 --> 00:47:14,120 Right. 614 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,920 I asked you, well, what's the cure for this? 615 00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:21,440 bizarre things happened in the past was he's on this issue and they're usually 616 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,140 unreasonable. 617 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,180 Like for instance, I had to tell you where the city manager actually put his home 618 00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:32,020 address as I said, the first public hearing, and that went L-40,000, you know, 619 00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:32,580 property owners. 620 00:47:33,340 --> 00:47:38,040 The state said, well, just, you know, just put a sign in your yard, I mean, I asked 621 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,460 the manager, well, how big you are, just to see if we had the meeting there, we did anything 622 00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:42,000 that funny. 623 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,900 So here they were just trying to accomplish one of the structure without finding you in not lines. 624 00:47:47,820 --> 00:47:49,740 So that's just the way to evolve. 625 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,340 But at the end of the day, arguments aside and I understand the engines on this. 626 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,120 It sounds like all kind of inclined to do the 30th. 627 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,580 I believe that will probably ultimately work out anyway. 628 00:48:00,660 --> 00:48:04,080 But I don't see arguing about it any if everyone's fine with that. 629 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,160 So I'm going to have to interject here. 630 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,740 We are at 659 meeting has to end. 631 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:17,140 We will have to close out this meeting up our regular meeting. 632 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:21,880 Rest, rest, rest, and then come back and open this meeting back again. 633 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:26,320 And to follow specific guidelines. 634 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,600 Are you going to reopen this week? 635 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:33,740 Well, since we are on this item and finish it because there was a motion in the second. 636 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:41,900 Mayor, I would like move to amend the motion to change the date to December 30th from the 28th. 637 00:48:47,610 --> 00:48:51,870 I would prefer that we come back because the time is over right now. 638 00:48:51,970 --> 00:48:53,550 Mayor, the motion is on the floor. 639 00:48:54,130 --> 00:48:55,610 So, but it's seven o'clock. 640 00:48:56,170 --> 00:48:58,870 But so we, Mayor, can I finish? 641 00:48:59,910 --> 00:49:01,610 So we will close. 642 00:49:02,370 --> 00:49:04,930 We will close.