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Hey, good evening everybody and welcome

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to our August uh West Perth Council

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meeting. Uh we do have um uh Doug Phelps

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is away uh at the meeting tonight and

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councelor Andrew Fornier is online and I

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will try and catch him online. Sometimes

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I don't always see him so we'll try and

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catch that as we go. Um, just before we

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get started, um, I would ask, uh,

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council and our guests this evening, if

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uh, they so wish that we'll bow our

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heads for a moment of silent reflection.

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Okay, thank you. All right, so we'll

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call the meeting to order. Um,

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there's going to be a few changes. We do

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have a fairly lengthy uh council meeting

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here tonight and we're going to mix

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things up a little bit. We do have a

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close session and we wanted to have the

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close session earlier on in the meeting

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as opposed to later on. So, we're going

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to go through the agenda and if you

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follow along um we're we have close

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session as agenda item number seven.

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We're going to skip that and we're going

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to go to uh item uh agenda item number

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eight and we're going to do 8.1 8.2 8.22

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8.23

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and then we will uh go for the close

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sessions. So it kind of gets the drains

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and what people have come for out of the

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road so that they don't necessarily have

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to stay if they don't want to. So, uh,

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with that in mind, um, those are the

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changes that we've made, I think, James.

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So, a motion to confirm the agenda. Um,

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and, uh, as I did mention, we have a

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close session, and it is to deal with

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legal updates, property manner, um, u

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well, various property matters that

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we've had uh, for the last little while.

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So, um, yeah, a motion to accept the,

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uh, agenda as amended. Uh, councelor

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Rose, Councelor O'Donnell, all those in

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favor posed, if any, that's carried.

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Does anybody have a conflict of interest

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with anything on the agenda? Councelor

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O'Donnell.

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» I have a conflict on item number 9.4.

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» Okay. So, noted.

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All right.

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Okay. Um that brings us down to moving

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on here. We do have a delegation. Um we

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have um Paul Seabbach our um uh auditor

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I guess from Seabbach and Company. And

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uh I would ask Paul to come up and uh

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give us the good news. Uh and uh I'll

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just turn the floor over to you.

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Thank you very much. Uh very nice to be

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here. uh when we go through everything

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uh mostly is good news. Uh our report

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has are the full audited financial

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statements and then we also uh provide a

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two-page uh report for council that has

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a little more information. Uh when we

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did the audit this year, it was all on

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site. We did the interm audit in October

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and the final audit uh first week of

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March. Um we received complete

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cooperation from Wendy Manique and all

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the other departments. We try to visit

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everybody and we were given access to

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everything. So, we really appreciate all

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the cooperation in Wendy's effort to uh

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get the statements done. After

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completing our audit, uh we're our

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auditor's report in the financial

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statements show a clean audit report and

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states the financial statements present

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fairly the financial position of

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municipality. At the end of the audit,

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we you know, it's it seems standard, but

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things don't always go good. that uh we

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can report we did not find any unusual

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transactions or sign significant matters

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to bring to your attention this council

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nostanding issues within the council and

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as I said received uh complete

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cooperation

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um a little bit when we do do the

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audited consolidated financial

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statements the things that are

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consolidated the BIA and the library

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board and your share of the ERT 6.25%.

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Um, when we look at the financial

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statements, the first number that jumps

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out at you is the surplus 4,257,000.

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I think every year I try to explain why

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when we take our surplus and we're

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obligated to use uh provincial standards

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PAB accounting standards and they just

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treat the our statements on more cural

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basis where when you do your budget it's

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more you're trying to raise cash for

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your capital project uh debt payments

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and things like that um reserve

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transfers. So when we look more on that

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basis uh Wendy's report that she had

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provided earlier shows a surplus of

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348,000. So it's important to realize

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you know you did have a surplus on this

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wave 4.4 but when you look at how your

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budget is presented it's it's quite a

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bit less. Uh the big item there is uh

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capital. Um

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you guys when you do your budget, you

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raise money to expense your capital

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where we set that up and depreciate it.

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Um we only expense the interest on your

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debt payments where you have to raise

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money to pay the actual principal

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payments. So that's 425,000.

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And at the end we show reserve funds as

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a part of the surplus but we don't show

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in ins and outs as income or expenses.

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So this year you transfer 2.2 million

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almost 2.3 million to reserves. So you

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have to take that off the 4.4 because we

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don't show that as a an expense. Um

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as I said we use the same uh very very

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same same information. is just presented

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different policies. Consolidated

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statements are important because uh the

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statements and the FIR are presented to

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the province and that's how they see

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your uh financial statements. Um some

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other key points um you spent 3.3

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million on capital you had budget or

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last year was 5.8 8 you had budgeted 6.1

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but uh there's quite a few projects not

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uh finished um some vehicles not

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purchased um in um Wendy's report that

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that's summarized um at the end of the

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year your debt was 66,372,000

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down from 6.8 8 million. So you paid

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down 425,000 of regular debt payments.

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There were no new no new loans and you

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completed payments on a loan from the

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pumping station. Um also is when you pro

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provides a debt repayment calculation by

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the province. Uh you're allowed to have

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debt repayments 25% of your revenue and

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at the end of last year you're at 11% of

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that. So you're well within that. Uh at

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the end of the another key part end of

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the year your reserves were 24,800,000.

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They were up 2.3 million. Um part of

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that was because you didn't do all the

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capitals. You didn't transfer the money

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to pay for the capital. You had budgeted

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to have uh 21.5

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million reserve. So you finished higher

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there. You also have some uh gas tax

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funding you received but didn't spend at

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the end of the year. 97,000 and a

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provincial roads grant of 136,000 that

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weren't spent. Um what that all means is

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so you didn't do all your capital when

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we look at the financial position you

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have you know more money in the bank and

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higher reserves etc. Um so the page

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titled report to council financial

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indicators it's basically your income

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statement or sorry your balance sheet as

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of December 31st. Um, first thing you

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notice the bank is up uh a fair bit.

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Part of that is because of the surplus

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and part of that is the uh payrolls are

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lower. Uh things of that nature. So the

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balance for your bank was 24.3 million.

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15.6 million of that's in your general

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bank. Um you have all your water and

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waste reserve funds of almost 7 million

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and all the other reserve funds accounts

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of 1.6 million. So that's the 24.3

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million in the bank. Um accounts re

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taxes receivable, you did a good job of

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collecting taxes, it's down to 2.7% of

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the total taxes. Of the 933,600

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is current. So that's good. More taxes

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you collect, the more money you have in

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the bank. Uh accounts receivable are

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similar to last year. Uh long-term

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receivable is a little higher. There

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were more municipal drain work that

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wasn't build at the end of the year.

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961,000 versus 495,000 loss. Um

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investments, you did change your

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investments uh during the year. Uh there

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was an unearned there was an earned gain

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there when you uh transferred the

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investments of 1,250,000.

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a lot of those uh invest investments are

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wastewater reserve investments. Um the

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investment in the government business

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government government business

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enterprise is your investments in the

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ERT utility. It's made up of note

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receivable shares and your share

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retained earnings and that's 5,44,000

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the share or your shares are valued at

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cost. So they don't reflect the value

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true value of the utility just your

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initial cost. So total assets current

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assets almost $42 million. things you

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owed at the end of the year. Uh the

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payables are lower. There were some

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development charges that were uh paid

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paid down. So payables are down 1.2

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million. Uh deferred revenue. Uh those

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2 million up from 1.8 million. Uh we've

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talked about that. A lot of that is is

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um the gas tax and the unspent uh road

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grant. Um there's a landfill closure

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expenditure that we have to set up to

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reflect the future cost of closing your

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landfill site and some of the older

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buildings. That's 3,95,000

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up 50,000 from from last year. And then

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the municipal debt of the 6.4 we talked

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about that. So the difference between

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your current assets and current

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liabilities is 26.4 million. Uh the

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important thing there is that because

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you all your capital that's up 5.3

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million. So you have more money just to

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uh spend for the current and future

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operations. Um capital assets and then

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the year your book value 1 103 million.

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Um then there's some prepaid expenses

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which is basically insurance and some

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inventory items. Um 106,000 land

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inventory for sale. That's at cost. So

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there's no change there. He didn't sell

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anything. 4.5 million. I know. So when

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you take the net financial assets and

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the 134 million that's your surplus of

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134,529

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and that's up to 4.2 million of your

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surplus. Are there any questions on the

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balance sheet?

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Uh the next statement is the your

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financial statement. It has the budget

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and five years of comparatives.

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the Canada Community Building Fund is

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the old uh federal gas tax. You did use

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some 285,000.

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Um the SE grant you received 1.1

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million. Uh they didn't spend it all. So

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you deferred 258,000.

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some other grants. The other grants are

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other municipalities. It's lower 38,000.

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The provincial offenses act funding was

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lower. Um

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the other government grants 780,000

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that's a little higher. That's the

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library uh the drainage superintendent

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preventing auto uh preventing autothefts

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grant and u

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then we get to other income. When we

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looked at investment income, that's

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higher than budgeted and higher than the

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year before, the 3 million. A large part

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of that is the gain when you transferred

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your investments uh for the wastewater

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reserves. Uh $1.2 million there again.

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So, total revenue 25.6 million. Um

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higher than was budgeted, but a lot of

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that is your investment income and some

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grants. uh your expenditures

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policing was higher than budgeted but um

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you received a grant for uh victim

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services so that 115,000 is in there so

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that is higher than budgeted. Um

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planning and uh development is higher

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than budgeted 311,000 versus 191,000.

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That's the interest. There's interest

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there long-term debt. Um so when you

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take the revenue minus the total

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expenses of 21.4 million comes back to

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your surplus of 4.2 million year before

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3.3.

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As far as the financial statements um

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the very second page is the auditor's

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report as I talked about it. It's a

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clean audit report. Um note number six

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is in your investment in government

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business enterprise. It shows the

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investment of 5 million. Um and as I

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said the shares are all at cost.

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Um note number eight explains uh

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estimate retirement obligations. That's

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the landfill cost we have to set up. Um

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note number nine shows mis municipal

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debt uh and that paid down 425,000 and

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it also shows that the the loan for the

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pumping station has been repaid over

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117,000 was paid off. So that frees up

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some capital for that department. Uh

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there is a a whole page on reserves. It

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shows how the reserves went from 22.6

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million to uh 24.8 million. As I said,

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that might have been lower per your

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budget, but because of some department

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surpluses and you didn't spend all the

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capital, you ended up 2.2 million high

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deferred revenue schedule of 2,91,000.

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that shows a lot of that development

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charges and a lot of it is the gas tax

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and the other deferred is the provincial

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road grant that wasn't all spent.

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Um at the very end of our statements, uh

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there's the trust fund and that's

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basically money set aside for cemetery

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uh maintenance and purposes.

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Uh so in closing I would say that you

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know you did finish the year with 4.2

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million. A lot of that's because you

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didn't do all your capital on a more

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cash basis. The surplus was 348,000. You

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did increase your financial position. I

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mentioned the 5.3 million. Um you were

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able to lead all your 2025 capital

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without borrowing. Uh this set you in a

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you know the end of this year set you in

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a position to have a large capital

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budget for this year. And once again,

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I'd like to thank Wendy and her

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department for all her cooperation.

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Are there any questions?

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Okay, questions for Paul?

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No, no questions. Okay. Well, thank you

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very much, Paul. Appreciate you coming

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this evening and giving us the good

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news. Relatively good news. So, thank

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you very much.

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» No, thank you. And I hope you have a

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good year this year. Thank you.

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» Yeah. So do I. [laughter]

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Okay. Um, at this Oh, sorry. Question.

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Councelor Duck.

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» Actually, sorry. I just I was making my

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notes there. We did at the beginning of

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your interest. Can I declare for 9.4 as

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well? I just wanted to make that note

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now before we got a little carried away.

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Sorry about that. Thank you.

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» No, that's fine. So, noted.

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Yeah. Yep. So, you you got that, James?

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Yep. Yep. Okay. No, that's good. That's

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good. Okay, Wendy, do you want to uh

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come up and uh introduce uh Loren here?

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Lauren, sorry.

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So, this is Lauren Tam. She's uh um here

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on a 12-month contract to uh fill in the

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position of deputy treasurer. So, with

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that, I'll

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introduce Lauren to you. She's going to

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have a few words to to share.

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» No, go ahead.

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» Good evening, Mayor and Council. I just

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want to say thank you for the

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opportunity to work here. When I saw the

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job posting, I thought it was a great

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opportunity to learn more in the

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municipal world. Um, I've been here

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almost a month now and I've really

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enjoyed my time here and I'm really

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looking forward to the next year of

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being here.

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» So, you're not going to mention who your

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dad is?

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» My dad's Mike. He was on council for 16

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years, I think. So,

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» Something like that. Yeah, good, good,

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good. Well, thank you very much and and

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I thought it was appropriate right after

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we did the auditor statement to bring

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you up and introduce you. So, thank you

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and welcome. And you're welcome to stay

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as long as you want, but you don't have

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to stay through the whole night.

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» Thanks.

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» Okay. Very good. Okay. Um, we could

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probably do the consent agenda, couldn't

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we? Yeah, I think we can. We'll we'll do

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the consent agenda here. Um,

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» Oh, yes. Sorry. Yes. Yes. Recommendation

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here that uh the council municipality of

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West Perth receives the 2025 audited

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audit uh prepared by Seabbach and

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Company as presented. So we have a mover

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and second councelor Duck uh councelor

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Herold. Uh any questions? All those in

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favor? Opposed? If any that's carried.

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Thank you. Thanks. Okay. The consent

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agenda is there. There's 13 items on the

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consent agenda. Is there um anything

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there that anybody wants clarification

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on or would like pull them to deal with

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separately? Maybe some clarification on

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6.6. I was just curious if we ever used

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pesticides in our parks prior to the uh

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ban.

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» Um

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prior to

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» Yes.

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» Oh,

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was that a Nick question? Nick, I don't

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know if can you I don't think you can

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answer that if used them prior to We can

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look into that and report back, but I

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I'd assume so. But I

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» I just feel like if we send a letter of

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support, I think spraying around our

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ballparks would be beneficial to make it

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look cleaner. Causing the grass to grow

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up through the gravel doesn't look very

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appealing. And I think it would just

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beautify the space a little bit better

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if we could spray.

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» So, um, do you want to do you want us to

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pull that and then, uh, move a support

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for that?

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» Okay. Um, okay, we could we can do that.

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Um, that was 8.6.

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So, um, um, yeah, you pretty well

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explained what was in the resolution.

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And so if you want to move that, do we

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have a seconder to deal with that? Uh

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take your pick. Deputy mayor, uh support

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that. Um any further discussion on that?

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Uh Dan,

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» Just from an information standpoint, I

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I'll just noted that that regulation is

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2009 regulation. So we'd be we'd be

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going back pretty far from the staff

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standpoint.

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» Any other questions or comments? All

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those in favor of that? Okay, those

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opposed, that's carried. Is there

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anything else anybody would like um an

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explanation on or pulled separately?

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» Sometimes my hand's not noticed when I'm

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on Zoom. Mayor,

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» You're not noticed, Andrew. I'm sorry.

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Um but yeah, go ahead.

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» Uh I'm going to restrict the number of

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things that I want to pull from here

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because I don't know if anyone else is

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reading this and thinking, "Oh god,

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counselor Fornier is going to talk for a

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really long time." Um but 6.1 and 6.3 in

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particular if you don't mind. Uh

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emergency shelters serving women and

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children experiencing intimate partner

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violence. Um that is a rather urgent

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issue. I have uh several

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uh exes in my life who have experienced

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intimate partner violence from other

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partners and I know from firsthand

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stories of what it's like trying to live

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in those environments with children. We

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need more spaces. We need spaces for

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longer. We need spaces for more

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more types of events. So, that one I

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straight up want pulled and supported.

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And also 6.3, the township of uh let me

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see if I can even pronounce this. Alwick

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and Halddund apology to the British home

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children and child migrants and their

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families. This one again rather in

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particular. I actually have people in my

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own family who were orphaned and had

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their childhoods ruined by getting

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turned into

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uh laborers of both the farmwork and

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housework variety and also used for

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other purposes. This happens to children

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and the fact that our prime minister

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hasn't issued a formal apology while the

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prime minister of Great Britain and the

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prime minister of Australia has strikes

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me as just intolerable. There's not even

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very many of them left alive in our

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country and a thousand of them died in

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the First World War after being abducted

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from their own families and stuck with

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new families here who used them for

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stuff. Um, I want I want that one in

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particular pulled for support. Thank

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you.

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» Okay, we will deal with those two first

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and then we'll go back to the consent

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agenda. So, uh, item 6.1, emergency

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shelters. U, I take it that councelor

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Fornier, you will move that.

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» Very much so. Thank you.

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» Okay. Do we have a seconder for that uh

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motion to support that resolution? Uh,

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councelor Duck. because uh we'll second

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that. Any further discussion on that

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particular motion?

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» You got your hand up. Yeah. I was just

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just for the record, I was just going to

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um just make it known that council's

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previously declared IPV an epidemic

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around this table. So just giving you

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that context here. That's all.

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» Uh who?

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» That's one of the reasons why I

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mentioned it because we already have

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supported things like this motion.

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» Okay. So So we we have supported

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this

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are very similar. Okay. All right. So,

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we have done it in the past. Um, so it's

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moved and seconded. If there's no

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further questions on it, all those in

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favor,

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two, three, four, five, six, opposed, if

537
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:13,600
any, that is carried. Uh, moving to 6.3

538
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:15,919
then. Um, apology to the British home

539
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,720
children and child migrants and their

540
00:25:15,919 --> 00:25:21,279
families. Again, uh, councelor Fornier,

541
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,360
uh, you will move that, I take it.

542
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:25,360
» Yeah, very much so. Yeah. and provide

543
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:28,320
extra explanation if necessary.

544
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:32,600
» Yep. Um, do we have a seconder for that

545
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,600
motion to support that resolution?

546
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,000
» Do we have a seconder?

547
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,480
» Councelor Duck is going to second that.

548
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,960
Okay. Um, is there anything further you

549
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,640
want to add, Andrew, to that before we

550
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,360
take a vote here?

551
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:50,000
Canada has too long a history on many

552
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:53,600
different fronts of not being very nice

553
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:57,440
to kids that we don't view as one of us.

554
00:25:53,600 --> 00:26:00,400
Um, and what happened to some of these

555
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,600
uh occasionally baby children and you

556
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,400
have to understand that during this

557
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,400
program that the actual orphans who are

558
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,880
being taken from workhouses and sent

559
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,720
here, bonuses were not paid to the

560
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,200
organizations that took them from those

561
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,679
workhouses. bonuses were paid for

562
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,960
children who might actually have living

563
00:26:15,679 --> 00:26:21,120
parents, poor parents, parents who could

564
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,440
not provide to them for them, granted,

565
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:25,679
but that's more a case of the the social

566
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,919
services available in the United Kingdom

567
00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:30,640
at the time. Um, and instead of

568
00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:35,039
addressing their own issues,

569
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:38,240
Britain sold these children to families

570
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:40,720
in Canada to work as farm laborers and

571
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,559
house servants. Now, that's not every

572
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,640
case, and I'm sure sometimes it worked

573
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:46,159
out better than that. But in enough

574
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,360
cases that it's historically

575
00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:52,080
significant, it didn't.

576
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:56,000
We should not accept being the

577
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:58,720
recipients of sold children, whether now

578
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:03,720
or in the past. And if we did so in the

579
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,720
past, we should hurry up and say sorry.

580
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:11,039
» Okay.

581
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:14,960
Um any other comments from anybody?

582
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:18,400
Okay. Um so the um support has been uh

583
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:22,600
duly moved and seconded. Um all those in

584
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,600
favor of supporting this resolution.

585
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:30,880
Now put your hands up. Don't be afraid.

586
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:33,679
Opposed to this resolution.

587
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:37,279
The motion is lost.

588
00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:39,520
All right. Um then a motion that we um

589
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:44,640
accept the consent agenda with the

590
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:49,679
exception of 61, 6.3 and 6.6. So in

591
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:54,399
other words from 62, 64 all the way uh

592
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:55,840
65 and then all the way from 6.7 to 6.13

593
00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:58,480
would be in order. Do we have a mover

594
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,840
and seconder for that? Councelor Rose,

595
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,559
seconded by councelor Foster.

596
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,880
Any questions on any of them? All those

597
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:10,320
in favor? Opposed? If any, that's

598
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:14,559
carried. Thank you. All right. Uh brings

599
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:17,440
us down to we're moving to uh uh agenda

600
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:21,760
item number eight and uh the planning

601
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:26,320
department. Uh we have um uh an item

602
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:28,480
here with regards uh uh B1926.

603
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,640
And we have Haley, I believe, with us is

604
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,720
going to walk us through this one. Uh

605
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,520
it's with regards to a consent

606
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,559
application and as I said the file

607
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,919
number is B1926. So Haley the floor is

608
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:41,600
yours.

609
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:43,679
» Thank you. The application before you

610
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,600
this evening is for a proposal for a

611
00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:47,840
surplus farm dwelling severance located

612
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,000
at 5302

613
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,159
line 29 in the municipality of West

614
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,080
Perth.

615
00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:56,080
The subject application proposes to

616
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,640
sever a surplus farm dwelling lot

617
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,480
resulting in a farm consolidation. The

618
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,880
severed lands contain an existing

619
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,120
dwelling, a detached garage, septic, and

620
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,279
well. The retained lands are vacant of

621
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,120
any buildings or structures.

622
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,200
Additionally, the application proposes

623
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,200
to establish an easement for hydro

624
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,440
located on the severed lands in favor of

625
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:20,320
the retained lands. The easement is

626
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:22,799
proposed to be 4.48 m wide by 6.34 m

627
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,480
long. A condition of the consent has

628
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:27,520
been included that will impose

629
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,679
restrictions on future permitted uses of

630
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,919
the severed and retained lots through an

631
00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:34,000
adoption of a required zoning bylaw

632
00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:36,559
amendment. The condition requiring the

633
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,600
ZBA has been recommended to satisfy the

634
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:42,000
requirements of the 2024 PPS and the

635
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,760
county of Perth official plan. staff are

636
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,440
supportive of the proposed severance and

637
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,880
are of the opinion that the application

638
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,440
is consistent with the provincial

639
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,440
planning statement 2024 and conforms

640
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,279
with the county of Perth official plan

641
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,279
subject to the recommended conditions of

642
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,640
consent approval being fulfilled. Thank

643
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:58,080
you and I'm happy to answer any

644
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,360
questions.

645
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:04,320
» Okay, any questions with regards to this

646
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,320
recommendation?

647
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,279
» Don't see any hands going up. So, we do

648
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,039
have a um resolution here. Uh the

649
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,880
recommendation is that the council, Miss

650
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:14,559
Pal West Perth, recommends that the

651
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,080
county of Perth land division committee

652
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:20,080
approve consent application B1926

653
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,240
and that council forward the conditions

654
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,640
listed in the staff report dated August

655
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,399
the 10th, 2026

656
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,760
to the county of Perth land division

657
00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:31,840
committee for the property known as 5302

658
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,000
line 29 in the municipality of West

659
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:37,120
Perth. Do we have a mover and seconder

660
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,640
for that? Deputy Mayor and a seconder.

661
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,320
Uh, Councelor Herald. Last call for

662
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,640
questions.

663
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,200
All those in favor? Opposed? If any,

664
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:50,159
that's carried. Thank you, Haley.

665
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,480
Okay, moving on then brings us down to

666
00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:55,840
uh a couple drain reports. The first one

667
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:58,080
is the Mela Municipal Drain uh and

668
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,320
consideration of the engineers report.

669
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,960
And we do have Chris Dietri with us

670
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,799
tonight. And Chris, I'll turn the floor

671
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,120
over to you and you can walk us through

672
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:08,120
that report.

673
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,679
Thank you, uh, Mayor McKenzie and

674
00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:14,679
councel.

675
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:20,320
Uh, the first project that I'm here to

676
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:23,360
present is the Mel municipal drain. Uh,

677
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:26,480
this takes place uh, within the the town

678
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:29,360
of Mitchell city limits and, uh, it's

679
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,840
basically an enclosure of an existing

680
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,000
municipal drain. Some history on this ML

681
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,159
drain. Uh it was originally constructed

682
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,200
under a report prepared by Dodson and

683
00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:40,799
Johnson consulting engineers

684
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,480
uh that provided for the construction of

685
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:46,399
the main drain open the main drain

686
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:49,200
closed branch A and branch B. All closed

687
00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:51,679
tile drains were designed to a 5-year

688
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,399
storm.

689
00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:56,799
Uh this stream was updated in 1999 under

690
00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:58,320
a report prepared by Johnson Engineering

691
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:01,120
Consultants

692
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:04,399
um that provided for the cleanout at 272

693
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,799
m of open ditch um and the installation

694
00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:08,720
of three culvert crossings.

695
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:11,120
And finally, a portion of the main drain

696
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:15,200
uh closed was realigned under a report

697
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:18,559
by RJ Burnside and Associates Limited

698
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:22,320
um in 200

699
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:26,559
I don't have the date on that here. Um

700
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:28,559
might be regardless it was realigned. Uh

701
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:31,440
we held an information for this

702
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:36,240
enclosure uh back in November of this

703
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:38,240
year and it wasn't uh basically taken

704
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,320
very well. So we were proposing to

705
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,840
enclose the drain from where the main

706
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,840
drain closed is all the way down uh in

707
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,000
the uh

708
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,240
uh in the Gaffne Industrial Holdings

709
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,720
property which is shown as number one on

710
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,480
your plans or sorry number yeah number

711
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,919
one.

712
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,399
uh this option was a little too

713
00:32:55,919 --> 00:33:01,039
expensive for the owners. Uh so this

714
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:04,159
report that we're presenting here today

715
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:07,279
uh includes uh basically we're enclosing

716
00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:10,880
68 m of open ditch

717
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:12,960
um across lot 15 as shown on our plan.

718
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:17,773
Then it crosses Ellen Street where it

719
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:19,793
outlets into the existing open drain.

720
00:33:17,773 --> 00:33:19,793
[clears throat]

721
00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:28,640
We also um plan on cleaning out 62 mters

722
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:31,840
of the existing open drain uh and remove

723
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:35,919
one 750 mm diameter corrugated metal

724
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:40,000
pipe. Uh our drain will consist of 750

725
00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:43,039
mm diameter to 900 mm diameter plastic

726
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,679
HDP pipes

727
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:48,559
um and is designed to handle the 100year

728
00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:52,679
storm event. We've estimated the total

729
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:52,679
cost of this work at $115,600

730
00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:59,360
and I'm open to answering any questions

731
00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:02,960
from council.

732
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,360
» Hey, thanks Chris. Questions? Councelor

733
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,320
» Mayor McKenzie. Uh Chris, you mentioned

734
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:12,399
uh that that your first proposal wasn't

735
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:14,320
too amlicable uh to the property owners

736
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:17,679
and the revised

737
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,520
um proposal that you made um that the

738
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,440
majority of land owners are on side with

739
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,720
that proposal uh that that you're

740
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,560
bringing forward tonight.

741
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:27,040
» Um there's one sitting in the audience

742
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,119
that may have some objections to this.

743
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,119
Um I would let him speak for himself

744
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:32,119
though.

745
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,919
Other questions from council? Is there

746
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:42,919
um a ray pair that does wish to add some

747
00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:42,919
comments?

748
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:54,079
Thank you, Mayor McKenzie. Council, my

749
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,960
name is Jason Hask. I am the owner of

750
00:34:54,079 --> 00:35:00,480
Lewis McNichol Trucking.

751
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:03,040
For the last 25 years, I've been the

752
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,680
largest proponent

753
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:08,480
of the work that Chris is proposing here

754
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:11,920
tonight. And if you'd asked me a month

755
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:15,200
ago, I was on board.

756
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:19,920
But situations change.

757
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:24,400
And even though in this report

758
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:27,440
my property receives the most benefit

759
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:30,960
from the drain being closed, it also

760
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:34,160
receives the most cost.

761
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,720
And at that at this particular time, I'm

762
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,200
not certain that I'm prepared to carry

763
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:42,160
that cost.

764
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:46,240
All I ask is that you keep that in mind

765
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,240
when you make your decision tonight.

766
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,680
Okay, fair enough.

767
00:35:53,760 --> 00:36:01,960
» Other any other comments or questions

768
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,960
with regards to this drain now?

769
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,200
» Well, sure the mayor. Uh, who asked for

770
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:12,240
this drain to be closed in and can we

771
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:15,359
start on the south side of that road to

772
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,359
close it in?

773
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:21,520
I don't recommend that at all. Um, well,

774
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,640
basically, it's only enclosing through

775
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,960
one property in a road. Um, there's

776
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,119
already a culvert under the road. So, I

777
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:32,480
would recommend that if we're not

778
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:35,520
closing it through the McNickel Trucking

779
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:39,359
Incorporated property that we

780
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:42,640
do something else like just basically

781
00:36:39,359 --> 00:36:45,520
maybe scrap the report or something of

782
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,160
that nature and then we're dealing with

783
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,880
our 78 costs.

784
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,880
It was originally sorry uh originally

785
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,760
signed section 78 form which is

786
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:58,720
improvements to an existing drain by DNR

787
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,599
pole holdings. We held that information

788
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:04,560
meeting and they were Vietnamese or

789
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:07,440
Vietnamese like uh opposed to what we

790
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,680
were presenting. uh we had to design it

791
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,599
to a 100red-year storm to meet the con

792
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,640
the conservation authority uh what

793
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:17,119
they're asking for and and basically we

794
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,560
do have all our approvals from the

795
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:22,599
conservation authority and the

796
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,599
department of fisheries and oceans

797
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:30,160
» Other questions so just to clarify Chris

798
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:32,079
this doesn't happen very often but

799
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,200
you're kind of recommending that we

800
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:35,119
don't accept this report

801
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,079
» Well that would be up to the McNichol

802
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,839
property

803
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:39,359
Oh, okay. So, we

804
00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:40,400
» Yeah, we're presenting our report as

805
00:37:39,359 --> 00:37:40,880
written.

806
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,680
» Okay.

807
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:48,720
» Um, so it would be up to council to

808
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,800
pass or not pass.

809
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:53,119
» I'm looking at James here. So, we may

810
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,720
have to tweak the resolution here a

811
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,720
little bit. Will we?

812
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,240
» Well, I guess we can get we need some

813
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:00,960
input from council how they want to

814
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:04,520
proceed here as much as anything. And

815
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,520
I'm looking for

816
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:10,800
Go ahead,

817
00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:13,760
» Mayor McKenzie. When we're um working

818
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,960
together as a team to uh work on

819
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,640
drainage works, I think as a council

820
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,760
that we're looking to all of the

821
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:24,320
properties in that uh in that watershed,

822
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:28,079
just like we're doing in agriculture.

823
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:33,200
um uh that that um yes sometimes the

824
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:35,599
cost uh is um felt um that it's

825
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,760
exorbitant but uh but we are making

826
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:39,200
improvements to the wershed. So, so I

827
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,960
think as as a council, we're we're

828
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,760
looking at at the whole wershed as a

829
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,240
whole um to to to make those

830
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,160
improvements if land owners are asking

831
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:50,240
uh and obviously when they petitioned

832
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:53,680
for that drainage work, they they were

833
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:56,560
asking um and it's maybe just come down

834
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,119
to uh down to the cost uh portion, but

835
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,280
uh but I think out of other respect for

836
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:03,280
other land owners, we should consider it

837
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:07,119
as a whole project whether it actually

838
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:11,200
benefits the the wershed or not.

839
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:13,440
Yeah. Thank you, Nicholas. Anybody else?

840
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,400
Uh, Deputy Mayor through

841
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,400
» You. Uh, Mayor McKenzie,

842
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,920
um, just help me try and understand

843
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:25,440
this, uh, whether it's Chris or staff.

844
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:29,200
So, um, a landowner,

845
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:32,320
uh, Mr. Paul or somebody by the last

846
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,400
name of Paul submitted a section 78

847
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:37,440
request

848
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,839
um to close the open ditch. Is that

849
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,480
» Yes.

850
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:38,800
» Correct.

851
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,760
» Yes.

852
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,920
» Okay. And at this time, are they still

853
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,640
in favor of

854
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,200
» They're not

855
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,760
» That work.

856
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,880
» They're not.

857
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,359
» They're not. And did they give a did

858
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,079
they give a written reason why or any

859
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:54,240
kind of reason?

860
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:56,320
» They have not. No. Not Not in my

861
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:57,920
knowledge. No. But they but they've just

862
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,560
said no, we don't want to do it.

863
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:03,119
» Correct.

864
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:07,599
» Okay. And to date, uh only Mr. Hasket

865
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:12,000
has provided a a reason an objection

866
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:14,400
with a reason. Is that correct?

867
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,720
» Yes. Initially at the information

868
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,480
meeting, he wanted to go ahead but at

869
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:20,640
this time he does not.

870
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,200
» Okay. And at the time of the information

871
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,000
meeting, Mr. Paul did not want to

872
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,320
» Mr.

873
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,800
did not attend the information meeting,

874
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,520
» Right?

875
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,599
» And it wasn't until a later date

876
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,320
that they called and said, "We're not in

877
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:36,800
favor of these costs."

878
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:41,520
» And do we know how much in costs have

879
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:43,280
been incurred to date right now?

880
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,720
» Well, we obviously have prepared this

881
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:49,760
report. This includes us uh going to the

882
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:52,760
quarter revision if necessary.

883
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,760
Um

884
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,079
just I'm just looking for a

885
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,400
» Rough idea.

886
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:00,960
» Yeah. So it would be around $20,000

887
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,440
probably.

888
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,040
» So we're already $20,000 into this work

889
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:09,200
and the people that at least one person

890
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,440
who had

891
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,640
petitioned it has now backed out of it.

892
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,280
Correct. We have a second

893
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,480
» And that was the only signature on that

894
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,000
78 form.

895
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,760
» Okay.

896
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,000
All right. So, I guess my question to

897
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:27,599
staff is um are we able to defer any

898
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:31,440
decision and get a a staff report

899
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:34,240
to try and uh confirm answers to the

900
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,160
questions that I've got that I made

901
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:38,960
because right now the municipality is on

902
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:42,160
the hook for $20,000 and we didn't and

903
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:44,960
the municipality didn't ask for it as I

904
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:48,079
see it. So, how do we how do we how do

905
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,480
we resolve this because we've got a

906
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:51,920
landowner that wanted something now they

907
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,319
changed their mind. I guess that's their

908
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,000
that's their right to do that. But

909
00:41:54,319 --> 00:41:57,920
money's been spent here. So, somebody's

910
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,200
going to get a bill. So, we got to sort

911
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,520
this out somehow. Just refer that qu

912
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,480
these questions to staff for further

913
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:09,040
clarification, please. Thank you.

914
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,720
» Yes, I think James is quite prepared to

915
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,280
answer that. And I'm sure Chris could

916
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:15,839
give us the options as well. Um,

917
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,000
» So section 78 is a little tricky. Um,

918
00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:20,720
how to distribute costs when reports

919
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,680
aren't adopted. Uh, typically it would

920
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:26,560
be build under the existing reports

921
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:29,040
bylaw. Uh, so that would be the 1999

922
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,359
bylaw. Obviously since then things have

923
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,599
changed as far as lots and what have

924
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:36,160
you. U, but that would be the most most

925
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:39,680
fair thing to do. Um, so whatever that

926
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:42,800
maintenance clause says in the 1999

927
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,560
report is how you'd want to distribute

928
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,400
those costs.

929
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,200
» And we can have a look and and give you

930
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:53,040
an exact number of what we have into it.

931
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:55,599
» Oh, okay. James, anything further?

932
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,520
» No. Uh, I really don't have much data. I

933
00:42:55,599 --> 00:43:00,240
think Chris has given you all the the

934
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,760
important information. Um, I think I

935
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:03,680
would just note that, you know, you've

936
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,920
heard from the land owner with the lion

937
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,400
share of the assessment costs here this

938
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,400
evening. So, council does has the option

939
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,520
to receive this report for information

940
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:16,240
and Chris has spoken to how those costs

941
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:21,119
would be distributed should things not

942
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:25,680
proceed from here. Thank you,

943
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:27,760
» Councelor Foster. If we to um receive it

944
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,240
for information at this time and not go

945
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:33,119
forward with it, if this comes back in a

946
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:37,680
few years, it would likely still be

947
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:39,040
easily reused at the time. If the land

948
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,480
owners change their mind and want to

949
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,640
come back to it, like is the report

950
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,119
still valid for a few years or how does

951
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,520
that work?

952
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:51,800
» It's a good question.

953
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,800
I would have to look into that.

954
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,920
I'll just I think I think Chris has

955
00:43:55,839 --> 00:43:58,800
probably given you a fair response, but

956
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,480
anything could [clears throat] happen

957
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,560
next year. Regulations could change.

958
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Everything could change. So I I think

959
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,960
your line of thinking is likely correct,

960
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,960
but that's not a guarantee if if that

961
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,960
helps.

962
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,720
Sir,

963
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:15,680
» So Mayor McKenzie, when I look across

964
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:18,480
the wershed, like James said, uh, Louis

965
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:21,520
McNickel Trucking has more than 50% of

966
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:25,119
the, um, watershed and then West Perth

967
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:28,160
10% and Mitchell Durasol properties

968
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,640
roughly 10% and

969
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:35,119
um, then the Godidge Railway rough

970
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:37,920
roughly another 10%. So so I guess 60%

971
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:39,440
um, and then God railway another uh, 10%

972
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,960
70. So, so the rest of the property

973
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:45,200
owners are are each a very very a tenth

974
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,560
a hundredth of a percent on many of

975
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:53,200
these properties. So there there's not

976
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:55,920
much um value I guess in in the drainage

977
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:58,960
works. So, I I'm I think I'm comfortable

978
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:01,760
um uh shelving the report based off of

979
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,359
the the the value that the if we if we

980
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,440
don't need the value on the vast

981
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:07,839
majority of the of the wershed, I'm

982
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:11,760
comfortable shelving it because we we

983
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:15,599
have 50% plus us plus the railway that

984
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:17,760
uh another 10% that um we could quite

985
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:20,160
easily see that don't see the value

986
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,599
tonight to go ahead with the drainage

987
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:25,119
works.

988
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:27,599
» Okay. I um

989
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:29,280
can't think of an other time that we've

990
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,880
had this happen, but there's always a

991
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,359
first time for everything and it's maybe

992
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,040
happened in the past. James

993
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:37,920
» Through the chair. May I ask one more

994
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:41,760
question? Um is it possible to do a

995
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:44,240
reortionment Chris on the existing

996
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:47,839
watershed that's there for the purposes

997
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:49,680
of more accurately determining

998
00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:51,920
um a cost distribution that is

999
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:54,640
reflective of today? Am I making sense

1000
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,240
with that question?

1001
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,040
» And it's just a question of

1002
00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:02,240
» For sure. Uh

1003
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:04,960
we probably could. I'm not

1004
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:06,480
saying definitively we can but that

1005
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,160
would be something another thing to look

1006
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,000
into

1007
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,800
because if we need to aortion which

1008
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,640
should have been done the old 1999

1009
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:19,599
report

1010
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:23,200
um then that can be done.

1011
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:25,280
» Yeah. Like that would be the fairest way

1012
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,599
to to do it, I would think, Chris.

1013
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,839
Right. If we're not going to proceed any

1014
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:32,160
further, that would be the fairest way

1015
00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:35,040
to proceed. Yeah,

1016
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,960
you would have a minor cost incurred

1017
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,880
again on top of that. But just just to

1018
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,480
be clear, yeah, you're you're looking at

1019
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,079
the wershed as it fixed today, the

1020
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:46,079
property boundary. So it would reflect

1021
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:49,520
accurately for that that cost.

1022
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:52,319
» Just an option. So I I think council can

1023
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,760
approve, council can receive for

1024
00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:56,240
information which in effect is doing

1025
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,319
nothing. So that kills it. Council could

1026
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:01,119
receive the report for information and

1027
00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:03,520
direct um we can direct to do the

1028
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:06,240
reortionment as well if you wish. Or if

1029
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:09,920
you want to see that come back,

1030
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:11,520
we can do that as well. Couple options.

1031
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,359
Well, the other option is you go ahead

1032
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,960
with the report and then you appeal it

1033
00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:20,240
to the to the drainage tribunal and they

1034
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,960
make a ruling on it, but uh the costs I

1035
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:25,680
think are in indicate of of what the

1036
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,000
cost is going to be. So, um you know,

1037
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,839
they might shift it a bit, but uh

1038
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,160
basically those costs will be fairly

1039
00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:34,640
accurate unless the odd time you tender

1040
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,119
it out and you get a a quote coming back

1041
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,880
that is less than what the engineers

1042
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,880
estimated. And that sometimes happens

1043
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,560
too, doesn't it? But uh

1044
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,960
» More so these days.

1045
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,200
» Yeah.

1046
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,560
» Rather than years past. But for sure it

1047
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,040
they definitely there's a lot of work

1048
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,040
out there for contractors and bids are

1049
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,400
coming in well below our estimates. But

1050
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,839
that's just

1051
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,760
» Me talking.

1052
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:57,520
» Okay. I want to kind of keep moving on

1053
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,920
here because we do have a fair bit to do

1054
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:03,520
tonight. So we've got several options

1055
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:07,280
here. As Dan has indicated, we can uh

1056
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:09,920
basically follow the the suggested

1057
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:13,599
recommendation here and and accept the

1058
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:15,359
report. Um and uh you know, you could go

1059
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:20,079
as far as give it first and second

1060
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:21,920
reading. Um but then eventually, you

1061
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:25,280
know, we're going to end up at a dead

1062
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:28,559
end. I think we can receive the report

1063
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,640
and that's it. and and then the costs

1064
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:34,640
will be figured out and will be invoiced

1065
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:36,160
to the uh to the rateayers involved.

1066
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,520
What was there was a third one

1067
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,760
» Do the reortionment so it's more

1068
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,520
reflective of of the land owner

1069
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,359
» We would do that anyways wouldn't we

1070
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,599
then

1071
00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:46,559
» Not necessar

1072
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:48,079
if you just don't

1073
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:50,240
» Oh

1074
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:54,000
we would use the 1999

1075
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:57,200
» Okay all right yeah okay so those are

1076
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,480
our options what would you like to see

1077
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,319
happening

1078
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,040
» Uh Mayor McKenzie I think we should uh

1079
00:49:00,319 --> 00:49:04,640
receive the report and then uh

1080
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:08,319
essentially that's where it stops but

1081
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:10,559
then use the 1999 um aortionments to

1082
00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:12,880
bill the costs that incurred.

1083
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:15,599
» Okay. Yep. You'll move that. Do we have

1084
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,119
a second for that motion? Uh councelor

1085
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:19,839
Foster.

1086
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:21,119
Okay. I just want to read that again to

1087
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:24,079
make sure everybody knows what we're

1088
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:25,440
voting on here. We were going to receive

1089
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:27,920
it. Um

1090
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,760
» Yeah. Uh thank you through the chair.

1091
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,680
So, at this time, the motion, as I

1092
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:35,040
understand it, is that council receive

1093
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:37,440
the report for information and that the

1094
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,839
cost uh for the preparation of the

1095
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,400
report and cost the date associated with

1096
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:44,160
the project be build to the land owners

1097
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,599
in accordance with the most recent

1098
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:50,319
assessment schedule, which is 1999.

1099
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:53,280
Is that fair?

1100
00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:56,000
Good. Okay.

1101
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,079
Any further discussion on that? Anybody

1102
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,960
anything to add?

1103
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:06,119
Okay. All those in favor of that motion?

1104
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:06,119
Opposed? If any, that's carried. Okay.

1105
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:13,280
All right. The next one then is um on

1106
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:16,000
our agenda is 8.2.2 and that's the Meer

1107
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,839
municipal drain and again in

1108
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,160
consideration of the engineers report.

1109
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:21,520
So Chris, the floor is yours. Yet

1110
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,839
» Thank you again, Mayor McKenzie and

1111
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:27,800
council. I'm here again to present the

1112
00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:27,800
Meer municipal drain.

1113
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:33,520
This is a drain uh that was originally

1114
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:36,319
built in 1959 and basically it consisted

1115
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:41,040
of the main drain and a drain. Uh that

1116
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:45,440
main drain consisted of uh 2587

1117
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:48,720
lineal feet of 6 in uh or 150 mm to a 12

1118
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:51,359
in or 300 mm diameter tile.

1119
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:53,760
Uh Adrian under our report is to be

1120
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:56,079
abandoned.

1121
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,000
Um and as shown on the screen, that dark

1122
00:50:56,079 --> 00:51:00,960
double blue line represents our

1123
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,640
watershed and it consists of 34.7

1124
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,400
hectares.

1125
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Um you'll see some of the lots are

1126
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,400
drained out of this watershed. So they

1127
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,359
get a reduction in their outlet

1128
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,760
assessment. Um

1129
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:16,800
and basically uh our new drains

1130
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:21,920
represented by a yellow line there. So

1131
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:25,680
it consists of excuse me 633 m of 300

1132
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:31,280
millimeter diameter to 525 millimeter

1133
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:33,680
diameter concrete and plastic HDP pipes.

1134
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,240
Um there will be one road crossing under

1135
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,400
line 49 with catch basins on both sides

1136
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:42,079
as well as catch basins at property

1137
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:44,800
lines. one between I guess that is sorry

1138
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:50,480
32 and 33 and then the next would be

1139
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:52,400
between 33 and 34 of concession 13.

1140
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,319
Um there's one other catch basin to be

1141
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:57,760
installed and that's downstream of the

1142
00:51:54,319 --> 00:52:00,640
Jonzi property which is part of lot 33

1143
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:04,800
concession 13. This will be connected to

1144
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:08,240
the main drain via a junction box. Um,

1145
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:11,520
and this drain outlets into the gray

1146
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:13,680
branch of the northwest municipal drain.

1147
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,680
We've estimated the cost of work at

1148
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,680
$193,800.

1149
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:22,000
And at this time, I'm open to any

1150
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:24,559
questions from council.

1151
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:29,000
Okay. Thanks, Chris.

1152
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:29,000
Any questions from members of council?

1153
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:37,440
No hands going up. Okay.

1154
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:39,280
Um do have a recommendation here uh that

1155
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,599
the council municipality of West Perth

1156
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:44,160
accepts the report dated June the 1st

1157
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:46,480
2026 from Driidge Engineering Limited

1158
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,000
for the Meer Municipal Drain and that

1159
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,839
council provisionally adopt the

1160
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:54,400
engineers report by giving first and

1161
00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:56,400
second readings to bylaw number 51 2026

1162
00:52:54,400 --> 00:53:00,319
and that the record of revision be

1163
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:02,960
scheduled for September the 8th of this

1164
00:53:00,319 --> 00:53:04,400
year 2026. Sorry.

1165
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,880
» Make sure

1166
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:11,480
» Oh, okay. Um,

1167
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:11,480
questions from any of the rate pairs.

1168
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,280
No, we're good.

1169
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:25,720
Go ahead. Yeah. Come on up. If you come

1170
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:25,720
up, we can hear you. That's uh better.

1171
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:35,119
» Good evening. Here. Um, this question

1172
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,280
might be a question for Chris. I'm not

1173
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:40,400
sure. I'm not sure. But question for

1174
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:44,480
council or not, but I know I looked at

1175
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:46,480
the first drawing that we met here and

1176
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,160
one that was mailed. I know it's a

1177
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,920
little bit different in design. Maybe

1178
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,119
you can comment on that or is that a

1179
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,640
question outside of this?

1180
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:56,319
» Chris can answer. I'm sure.

1181
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,319
» So, what happened at our what happened

1182
00:53:56,319 --> 00:54:00,160
at our information meeting is that we

1183
00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:01,920
had the design in a different area.

1184
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,119
There was also farms that were drained

1185
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:07,280
out that we did not know of. Um, so

1186
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:10,079
we've confirmed all of that information.

1187
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,960
We rerouted the outlet more so

1188
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:16,000
paralleling line 49 rather than going on

1189
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,720
an angle. We used to go on a a south uh

1190
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,280
easterly direction to the gray branch.

1191
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:26,000
So we shortened up the the drain itself

1192
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:28,640
by 67 m. Um, so that affected the cost

1193
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:31,359
as well. So the land being drained out

1194
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:34,880
which is shown on our plans uh report

1195
00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:36,800
plans uh actually reduces the amount uh

1196
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,760
of acres that would be contributing to

1197
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:42,319
the drain. So they will no longer be uh

1198
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,079
assessed for or have the right to

1199
00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:46,480
connect to this drain in the future, but

1200
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:48,160
they were assessed for the water that

1201
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:51,640
may land on their property that would

1202
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,640
come this way.

1203
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,559
» So I do have a follow-up question.

1204
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,319
» Sure. Go ahead. Yeah, my follow-up

1205
00:54:56,559 --> 00:55:00,800
question I guess and notice it went

1206
00:54:58,319 --> 00:55:02,559
straight into the drain rather than an

1207
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:07,119
angle. I guess my question for Chris

1208
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:08,800
maybe is will we get as much um guess my

1209
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:11,440
land fills up with water quite a bit in

1210
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,000
the spring melt? It's I just want to

1211
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,400
make sure that we can get as much water

1212
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:19,359
going away as possible is my question

1213
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,599
with the change.

1214
00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:23,599
Yeah. So, not mentioned is that this new

1215
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:25,920
municipal drain is designed to an inch

1216
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:29,280
and a half drainage coefficient or a 38

1217
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:32,640
millimeter per 24hour. Um, so that's

1218
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:34,800
topnotch drain work these days. Uh,

1219
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:37,839
sometimes landowners want more. So, that

1220
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,920
extra uh design standard would be

1221
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:43,280
ungrantable, but in this case, we're

1222
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:45,200
meeting the limit uh of of that train.

1223
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,280
So, we're going to have quite a lot of

1224
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,799
capacity in this new system. Right.

1225
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,799
Okay. Fair enough.

1226
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:59,680
Yeah. Okay. Any other questions from

1227
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:03,799
either council or right pairs?

1228
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,799
Okay. Um

1229
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,839
we I didn't do the recommendation. We

1230
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,760
didn't get that. I We need a move in a

1231
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:14,559
second. That's where we're at. Okay. So,

1232
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,319
I read it out that we accept the report

1233
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:20,079
and that we give it first and second

1234
00:56:16,319 --> 00:56:22,400
reading and it'll be bylaw 51 and then

1235
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:24,400
uh quarter revision will be held on

1236
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,640
September the 8th of this year. So, do

1237
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,400
we have a move and seconder for that?

1238
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,040
Um,

1239
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:34,480
Deputy Mayor Jinkowski

1240
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:38,079
and um yeah, I was looking for our Logan

1241
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:41,440
reps there uh but I don't have to.

1242
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:44,480
Councelor Duck. Okay, thank you. Last

1243
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,319
call for questions. All those in favor?

1244
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,880
Opposed? If any, that's carried. Thank

1245
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:47,760
you, Chris.

1246
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,720
» Thank you very much.

1247
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:54,240
» And uh then we do have another section

1248
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:56,640
78 here, branch A of the Russell drain.

1249
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,760
And James, I'll let you talk about that

1250
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,079
one.

1251
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,079
» Uh well, thank you through the chair. Uh

1252
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,599
yes, this request was received uh by the

1253
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:05,599
Ministry of Transportation who's

1254
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:07,680
requesting to remove and relocate a

1255
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:09,520
manhole north of its current location.

1256
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,720
This is in connection with the Russell

1257
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,799
Russell Dale roundabout uh project. Um

1258
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:17,520
and they need to remove and replace and

1259
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:19,200
upsize about 60 mters of piping. Uh they

1260
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,760
have been in conversation with Chris

1261
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,200
throughout uh this project um to answer

1262
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,880
a few questions and fill in some

1263
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,119
information on the existing drainage

1264
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,960
wershed out there. Um and accordingly

1265
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:31,280
we're recommending in that case that uh

1266
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,760
council go ahead and appoint Chris from

1267
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:36,079
Dietrich Engineering as the engineer to

1268
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,880
prepare the section 78 report for this.

1269
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:41,839
So happy to answer any questions.

1270
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,119
» Okay. Any questions for James on that?

1271
00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:46,319
Uh councelor B.

1272
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:48,799
» Mayor McKenzie, how do we get that done

1273
00:57:46,319 --> 00:57:51,359
in a timely fashion for the roundabout

1274
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:52,160
to be completed uh when it's supposed to

1275
00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:53,839
be completed?

1276
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,280
» Thanks to the chair and uh that's a good

1277
00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:56,799
question. I suppose I probably would

1278
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,079
push back a little bit if council

1279
00:57:56,799 --> 00:57:59,599
recommended we look at a different

1280
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:01,920
engineer this evening because I know

1281
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:03,520
Chris has had an opportunity to get uh

1282
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,359
work essentially underway with this

1283
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,040
project here. So although a report has

1284
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:09,280
not been prepared nor has he been

1285
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,799
formally appointed um we're we're well

1286
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,960
on the way to seeing that report. So

1287
00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:15,520
you'll probably see the section 78

1288
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,359
report come back um at either the next

1289
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,119
meeting or the meeting right thereafter

1290
00:58:17,359 --> 00:58:20,880
and the work that does need to happen

1291
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:22,880
can continue to happen while that

1292
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:27,240
report's being prepared. So hopefully

1293
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,240
that answers the question. Thanks.

1294
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,839
Okay.

1295
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:36,559
All right. Um so the um the

1296
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:39,200
recommendation that we have here is that

1297
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:41,280
the council missp proceed with the

1298
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,119
request for the drain manager

1299
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,799
improvement to branch A of the Russell

1300
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:46,480
municipal drain and that council

1301
00:58:44,799 --> 00:58:48,799
pursuant to the drainage act to appoint

1302
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,040
Chris Dietrich from Driage Engineering

1303
00:58:48,799 --> 00:58:53,280
Limited as the drainage engineer on a

1304
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,119
date 30 days from the notice of upper

1305
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,599
temp's conservation authority for the

1306
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:59,280
examination of the drainage works and to

1307
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:01,440
proceed with the requirements of the

1308
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,000
proposed improvement under section 78.

1309
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:07,920
8. We have a mover and seconder for

1310
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:10,559
that. Um, I'm kind of looking. Okay,

1311
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,960
I'll councelor Duck. I thought maybe

1312
00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:15,599
Councelor Foster or Harold would move.

1313
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:17,280
Councelor Harold, thank you. In case you

1314
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:20,319
haven't caught on now, I usually look to

1315
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:23,119
the to the ward where the drain is. Um,

1316
00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:26,319
questions. All those in favor posed, if

1317
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:30,240
any, that's carried. We're going to deal

1318
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:34,160
with one more here. Um and u we have

1319
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:38,720
Jesse Britain here with us. Um so he's

1320
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:41,040
here uh because of the 8.8.2 the library

1321
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,040
memorandum of understand agreement.

1322
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,920
Sorry I said understand memorandum of

1323
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:50,319
agreement. Dan I'll let you uh walk

1324
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:52,160
through that one and uh then from there

1325
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:55,119
we'll go into the close session.

1326
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:57,200
» Yeah. Thank you your worship um and and

1327
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:59,680
good evening council. So, so before you

1328
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,480
tonight is is an MOA, a memorandum of

1329
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,400
under of agreement uh between the West

1330
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,400
Perth Public Library and the

1331
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,839
Municipality of West Perth. Uh this is

1332
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,440
something that's been kind of on the

1333
01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:11,520
to-do list for the municipality and I

1334
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:14,880
think the library for I don't know quite

1335
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:17,520
some time, I'll say. Um we're there. We

1336
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:19,599
are all very happy with with what we

1337
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,359
have. We think uh it really documents

1338
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:24,000
our relationship which as noted in the

1339
01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:25,680
report we're really looking to uh find

1340
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,839
efficiencies through partnerships

1341
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,400
amongst the two organizations because

1342
01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:32,319
the library is is technically a legal

1343
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,400
separate entity. Um but as you saw

1344
01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:37,440
tonight it's it's part of our audit uh

1345
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,720
and etc. So uh we provide uh different

1346
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,960
services to them and they provide

1347
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,480
different services to community. Um I'm

1348
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,920
sure I don't need to go into full detail

1349
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,000
with with all of you about what the

1350
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,760
library does. Uh but the board has

1351
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,200
reviewed it and as noted in the report,

1352
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,640
they haven't officially adopted it yet

1353
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,160
because they don't have a a meeting um

1354
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,720
well between I guess when they reviewed

1355
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,400
it and and uh to to date. So we thought

1356
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,880
we'd get it here first for any feedback

1357
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:03,599
from from council. So I'll maybe stop

1358
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,119
there and if there's any questions um

1359
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:07,599
and sorry I should just add that we did

1360
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:08,880
slip in a schedule that uh to act as

1361
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:10,240
essentially as a lease agreement because

1362
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,920
we also didn't have one of those with

1363
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:16,240
with the library. So that was something

1364
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,240
we uncovered uh through this process.

1365
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:24,520
Okay. Any questions on uh on that

1366
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,520
memorandum of agreement?

1367
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:30,480
I don't see any hands going up. We're

1368
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,920
good, Jesse. Yeah. Okay. Um then the

1369
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,280
recommendation that we have here is the

1370
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,040
council municipality of West Perth

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01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,640
approve the memorandum of agreement

1372
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,040
between the municipality of West Perth

1373
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,640
and West Perth public library board and

1374
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,480
that the mayor and clerk be authorized

1375
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:45,359
to sign and seal all necessary

1376
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,920
documents. And that's moved by councelor

1377
01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:50,480
Fornier. Do we have a seconder for that?

1378
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,799
Uh councelor O'Donnell.

1379
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:55,760
Last call for questions. All those in

1380
01:01:52,799 --> 01:01:57,599
favor? Opposed? If any, that's carried.

1381
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,599
Thank you.

1382
01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:02,559
Okay, now we're going to backtrack a

1383
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:06,720
little wee bit here. And uh got to find

1384
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:09,200
the right page here again. Um

1385
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:11,040
so the recommendation that we have is

1386
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,520
that the council municipality of West

1387
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:17,680
Perth proceed in close session under

1388
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:22,160
section 239 of the municipal act uh as

1389
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:24,640
amended um at 8:00 right on the button

1390
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,880
to address matters related to uh

1391
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:29,119
position plan procedure criteria for

1392
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:31,440
instruction to be applied to any

1393
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:33,280
negotiations carried out or to be

1394
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,720
carried out by or on behalf of the

1395
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,720
municipality.

1396
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,799
uh litigation or potential litigation

1397
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:41,680
including matters before administrative

1398
01:02:38,799 --> 01:02:44,960
tribunals affecting the municipality

1399
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:47,440
um and legal update on a property matter

1400
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:50,640
and a property matter with regards to an

1401
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:52,720
OOLT appeal. Do we have a mover and

1402
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:55,599
second to go into close session for

1403
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:58,480
that? So, Deputy Mayor and Councelor

1404
01:02:55,599 --> 01:03:02,119
Foster, all those in favor posed, if

1405
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,119
any, that's carried.

1406
02:41:32,000 --> 02:41:37,120
Okay, we're uh back out of close session

1407
02:41:34,479 --> 02:41:39,040
and fairly I guess maybe a lengthy close

1408
02:41:37,120 --> 02:41:41,840
session, but we met in close session to

1409
02:41:39,040 --> 02:41:43,920
discuss the hair and industrial park,

1410
02:41:41,840 --> 02:41:46,000
provide legal updates on property

1411
02:41:43,920 --> 02:41:50,399
matters in Mitchell and in the Hibbert

1412
02:41:46,000 --> 02:41:52,880
Wards, uh an OOLT appeal in the Logan

1413
02:41:50,399 --> 02:41:56,720
ward and some HR matters and direction

1414
02:41:52,880 --> 02:41:59,920
was given to staff to deal with that. So

1415
02:41:56,720 --> 02:42:03,680
that was our close session. Now I got to

1416
02:41:59,920 --> 02:42:06,319
find out where we're at here, I think.

1417
02:42:03,680 --> 02:42:09,359
Yep. 8.2.4

1418
02:42:06,319 --> 02:42:11,680
the OP annual operating budget uh cost

1419
02:42:09,359 --> 02:42:12,479
update and James is going to look after

1420
02:42:11,680 --> 02:42:13,920
that for us.

1421
02:42:12,479 --> 02:42:15,600
» Uh well, thank you and through your

1422
02:42:13,920 --> 02:42:17,439
worship. This record is being brought

1423
02:42:15,600 --> 02:42:18,960
forward for information to provide

1424
02:42:17,439 --> 02:42:21,680
council with a bit of an update on

1425
02:42:18,960 --> 02:42:23,920
current OP costs and some anticipated

1426
02:42:21,680 --> 02:42:26,800
budget budget pressures ahead of the

1427
02:42:23,920 --> 02:42:29,600
2027 year. Uh so during the preparation

1428
02:42:26,800 --> 02:42:32,399
of our current year budget, we uh

1429
02:42:29,600 --> 02:42:36,000
budgeted for approximately 1.88 million

1430
02:42:32,399 --> 02:42:37,359
in OP costs. Uh following the province's

1431
02:42:36,000 --> 02:42:40,240
release of the final building

1432
02:42:37,359 --> 02:42:43,600
information, our pro our costs were c

1433
02:42:40,240 --> 02:42:45,920
capped at approximately 1.97 million,

1434
02:42:43,600 --> 02:42:50,000
which was an increase of about 91,000

1435
02:42:45,920 --> 02:42:51,680
over budget. Um without that 11% cap,

1436
02:42:50,000 --> 02:42:54,319
our services would have been closer to

1437
02:42:51,680 --> 02:42:56,880
2.24 million. It's important to note

1438
02:42:54,319 --> 02:42:58,880
that the 11% cap was calculated

1439
02:42:56,880 --> 02:43:00,560
excluding costs associated with our

1440
02:42:58,880 --> 02:43:03,280
additional services agreement we have

1441
02:43:00,560 --> 02:43:06,000
with the OP. So the enhanced services

1442
02:43:03,280 --> 02:43:09,760
that we receive in West Perth that those

1443
02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:13,359
costs were not subject to the 11% cost

1444
02:43:09,760 --> 02:43:16,479
um cap the 11% increase cap. So those

1445
02:43:13,359 --> 02:43:20,080
increases do not have an 11% cap and did

1446
02:43:16,479 --> 02:43:22,080
not have an 11% cap on them in 2026. All

1447
02:43:20,080 --> 02:43:25,439
this to say that's what led to your

1448
02:43:22,080 --> 02:43:27,600
increase there. Looking ahead to 2027,

1449
02:43:25,439 --> 02:43:30,399
our base allocation is approximately

1450
02:43:27,600 --> 02:43:33,280
about that 2.24 million. So that's our

1451
02:43:30,399 --> 02:43:35,359
cost without the 11% cap. That's what we

1452
02:43:33,280 --> 02:43:37,760
need to plan for because we can't

1453
02:43:35,359 --> 02:43:40,399
anticipate a similar cap to come forward

1454
02:43:37,760 --> 02:43:41,920
in the 2027 year. We've been given no

1455
02:43:40,399 --> 02:43:44,319
guarantee that there'll be any cap

1456
02:43:41,920 --> 02:43:46,479
coming forward um from the province at

1457
02:43:44,319 --> 02:43:49,120
this time and so this is really just

1458
02:43:46,479 --> 02:43:50,640
information for us council to be aware

1459
02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:53,680
of that budget pressure that's coming

1460
02:43:50,640 --> 02:43:55,920
forward. Happy for any questions.

1461
02:43:53,680 --> 02:43:58,880
» Thanks James. Any questions for James on

1462
02:43:55,920 --> 02:44:03,359
that?

1463
02:43:58,880 --> 02:44:06,479
Um, no. Uh, oh, sorry. Sorry. Go ahead.

1464
02:44:03,359 --> 02:44:09,200
» Through you, Mr. Mayor. So, is the OP

1465
02:44:06,479 --> 02:44:12,640
prepared to explain why

1466
02:44:09,200 --> 02:44:15,760
uh why the increase like what's what's

1467
02:44:12,640 --> 02:44:16,720
driving this? Do they can they explain

1468
02:44:15,760 --> 02:44:17,279
that?

1469
02:44:16,720 --> 02:44:19,200
» Um,

1470
02:44:17,279 --> 02:44:21,840
» Or can they come to a later date, come

1471
02:44:19,200 --> 02:44:24,080
to this council perhaps and explain

1472
02:44:21,840 --> 02:44:26,800
what's going on there? I think through

1473
02:44:24,080 --> 02:44:28,960
the chair I know what I can say is the

1474
02:44:26,800 --> 02:44:31,120
OP detachment board has done some

1475
02:44:28,960 --> 02:44:33,760
advocacy to the province around these

1476
02:44:31,120 --> 02:44:35,760
increasing costs. I really can't say

1477
02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:38,479
exactly the particulars of what go into

1478
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:40,160
those cost increases. We can certainly

1479
02:44:38,479 --> 02:44:41,840
request more information from the

1480
02:44:40,160 --> 02:44:44,000
province, but I know this is a pressure

1481
02:44:41,840 --> 02:44:46,240
that all Ontario municipalities are

1482
02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:48,000
facing and faced with. So when those

1483
02:44:46,240 --> 02:44:50,240
increases come across the board, they

1484
02:44:48,000 --> 02:44:52,319
come across the board for all Ontario

1485
02:44:50,240 --> 02:44:55,120
municipalities and they apply to that

1486
02:44:52,319 --> 02:44:57,040
that standard contract. So

1487
02:44:55,120 --> 02:44:59,680
» Dan, anything to add?

1488
02:44:57,040 --> 02:45:00,960
» Um, and I think I think uh James is

1489
02:44:59,680 --> 02:45:03,760
correct. We can come back with more

1490
02:45:00,960 --> 02:45:05,840
information, but looking back uh there

1491
02:45:03,760 --> 02:45:08,080
certainly was a new agreement signed on

1492
02:45:05,840 --> 02:45:10,160
on the labor side with OP. So, I think

1493
02:45:08,080 --> 02:45:12,399
there's new collective uh new collective

1494
02:45:10,160 --> 02:45:16,640
agreements in place and that's led to uh

1495
02:45:12,399 --> 02:45:19,760
some some of the increases as well.

1496
02:45:16,640 --> 02:45:21,439
» Okay, other questions. Phil question

1497
02:45:19,760 --> 02:45:23,840
through the mayor. When they came in

1498
02:45:21,439 --> 02:45:25,600
2024, they laid out their three-year

1499
02:45:23,840 --> 02:45:27,600
financial plan and those increases were

1500
02:45:25,600 --> 02:45:30,800
nowhere near 11%. So, I'm just wondering

1501
02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:34,800
what changed in year to year to get that

1502
02:45:30,800 --> 02:45:36,960
11%. And with the enhanced at 400,000,

1503
02:45:34,800 --> 02:45:39,680
what does that get you? And what was it

1504
02:45:36,960 --> 02:45:43,279
looking like in 2004,

1505
02:45:39,680 --> 02:45:45,359
for example, or 24, sorry.

1506
02:45:43,279 --> 02:45:46,720
» Um, I'll address what I can from that. I

1507
02:45:45,359 --> 02:45:48,640
might have to get back to you on the

1508
02:45:46,720 --> 02:45:51,520
second piece or on your last question

1509
02:45:48,640 --> 02:45:53,439
there. I'll say the 11% that's a cap.

1510
02:45:51,520 --> 02:45:55,520
So, that was a cap that the province

1511
02:45:53,439 --> 02:45:58,479
placed on saying that we will only

1512
02:45:55,520 --> 02:46:01,200
charge you at most the 11% increase. It

1513
02:45:58,479 --> 02:46:03,520
was more than that that it went up. I

1514
02:46:01,200 --> 02:46:05,439
haven't seen the 2024 year contracts,

1515
02:46:03,520 --> 02:46:07,680
but I would anticipate that it's likely

1516
02:46:05,439 --> 02:46:09,279
the former answer that the CEO just gave

1517
02:46:07,680 --> 02:46:10,960
there. There's been new collective

1518
02:46:09,279 --> 02:46:13,680
agreements and cost increases that

1519
02:46:10,960 --> 02:46:15,600
weren't on the books in 2024 and now

1520
02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:21,399
are. And again, we're at we're at the

1521
02:46:15,600 --> 02:46:21,399
mercy of those increases. Uh yeah,

1522
02:46:21,600 --> 02:46:24,720
» Uh a bit of clarity on enhanced is

1523
02:46:23,439 --> 02:46:26,960
essentially what you're getting is

1524
02:46:24,720 --> 02:46:29,359
you're getting a sergeant. Um, so you

1525
02:46:26,960 --> 02:46:31,600
have you have Sergeant Scott Lob here in

1526
02:46:29,359 --> 02:46:35,279
Mitchell and you're getting a DAC um,

1527
02:46:31,600 --> 02:46:37,040
which is a acronym for department

1528
02:46:35,279 --> 02:46:38,479
administration.

1529
02:46:37,040 --> 02:46:39,600
I don't know, clerk technician. I'll

1530
02:46:38,479 --> 02:46:42,160
make something up there. I'm not quite

1531
02:46:39,600 --> 02:46:46,080
sure on that one. Um, and I think the

1532
02:46:42,160 --> 02:46:49,120
other aspect that you get uh is if you

1533
02:46:46,080 --> 02:46:52,399
have a major event in your municipality,

1534
02:46:49,120 --> 02:46:56,960
um, you don't get a subsequent bill for

1535
02:46:52,399 --> 02:46:58,640
for the services. Um so if uh you know I

1536
02:46:56,960 --> 02:47:01,760
know there's there's been some events in

1537
02:46:58,640 --> 02:47:03,120
our past um if those as we understand

1538
02:47:01,760 --> 02:47:05,120
happen in a municipality that doesn't

1539
02:47:03,120 --> 02:47:07,439
have the enhanced services then there's

1540
02:47:05,120 --> 02:47:10,240
a bill for for when those those

1541
02:47:07,439 --> 02:47:13,520
resources mobilize to that area. Um

1542
02:47:10,240 --> 02:47:16,800
you're sort of paying insurance for for

1543
02:47:13,520 --> 02:47:20,080
that at this point. I think the other

1544
02:47:16,800 --> 02:47:23,680
thing um too and maybe Steve can give me

1545
02:47:20,080 --> 02:47:26,000
the number but uh um I think it was in

1546
02:47:23,680 --> 02:47:28,560
the police services board there's is it

1547
02:47:26,000 --> 02:47:30,319
21 officers work out of that office

1548
02:47:28,560 --> 02:47:32,800
right now they don't all work in

1549
02:47:30,319 --> 02:47:35,600
Mitchell but it draws them and they work

1550
02:47:32,800 --> 02:47:38,800
out of that office and around so we do

1551
02:47:35,600 --> 02:47:41,840
have a fairly large police prevets for

1552
02:47:38,800 --> 02:47:44,560
the size of our municipality

1553
02:47:41,840 --> 02:47:47,920
» That was disclosed um I think at last

1554
02:47:44,560 --> 02:47:50,160
council not the one pract I I I read

1555
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:56,160
that and and I didn't realize it was

1556
02:47:50,160 --> 02:47:59,920
anywhere near that high but uh yeah yeah

1557
02:47:56,160 --> 02:48:02,000
answer Phil okay

1558
02:47:59,920 --> 02:48:04,160
uh any other questions on that I'm going

1559
02:48:02,000 --> 02:48:05,840
to try and keep moving here so we do

1560
02:48:04,160 --> 02:48:08,240
have a recommendation uh that the

1561
02:48:05,840 --> 02:48:10,479
council miss receives the Ontario

1562
02:48:08,240 --> 02:48:12,640
provincial police annual operating

1563
02:48:10,479 --> 02:48:14,960
budget cost update report for

1564
02:48:12,640 --> 02:48:17,439
information with move and seconded for

1565
02:48:14,960 --> 02:48:19,760
that. Moved by uh councelor Harold,

1566
02:48:17,439 --> 02:48:22,160
seconded by councelor O'Donnell. All

1567
02:48:19,760 --> 02:48:26,720
those in favor? Opposed? If any, that's

1568
02:48:22,160 --> 02:48:28,399
carried. Uh the next is uh our director

1569
02:48:26,720 --> 02:48:30,319
of operations

1570
02:48:28,399 --> 02:48:33,040
uh the industrial, commercial, and

1571
02:48:30,319 --> 02:48:36,640
institutional recycling service delivery

1572
02:48:33,040 --> 02:48:38,399
options. And Sean is here going to uh uh

1573
02:48:36,640 --> 02:48:39,840
manager of the environmental services,

1574
02:48:38,399 --> 02:48:43,479
and he's going to walk us through this

1575
02:48:39,840 --> 02:48:43,479
one. So, welcome

1576
02:48:44,720 --> 02:48:49,520
Good evening, Mayor McKenzie and

1577
02:48:46,960 --> 02:48:51,600
council. Um, so the point of this report

1578
02:48:49,520 --> 02:48:54,240
is to provide council with an overview

1579
02:48:51,600 --> 02:48:56,160
of the upcoming changes to industrial,

1580
02:48:54,240 --> 02:48:58,399
commercial, and institutional recycling

1581
02:48:56,160 --> 02:49:01,120
services and to seek council direction

1582
02:48:58,399 --> 02:49:03,520
on the municipality's preferred approach

1583
02:49:01,120 --> 02:49:06,399
to providing ICI recycling collection

1584
02:49:03,520 --> 02:49:08,880
services beginning in 2027.

1585
02:49:06,399 --> 02:49:11,040
Um, so recent regulatory changes have

1586
02:49:08,880 --> 02:49:13,520
removed ICI recycling from the

1587
02:49:11,040 --> 02:49:16,080
residential blue box program. As a

1588
02:49:13,520 --> 02:49:19,439
result, the collection and processing of

1589
02:49:16,080 --> 02:49:21,680
recycling generated by ICI properties no

1590
02:49:19,439 --> 02:49:25,680
longer are covered under the blue box

1591
02:49:21,680 --> 02:49:28,240
framework. So um, Blue Water Recycling

1592
02:49:25,680 --> 02:49:31,200
Association, the BRA established a

1593
02:49:28,240 --> 02:49:33,439
dedicated ICI recycling collection

1594
02:49:31,200 --> 02:49:36,640
system to ensure continued service uh,

1595
02:49:33,439 --> 02:49:39,840
for the remainder of this year. Um so

1596
02:49:36,640 --> 02:49:42,479
BRA has absorbed the incremental costs

1597
02:49:39,840 --> 02:49:45,359
uh associated with servicing ICI bins uh

1598
02:49:42,479 --> 02:49:48,080
during 2026. So this was a temporary

1599
02:49:45,359 --> 02:49:51,359
measure to uh support a smooth

1600
02:49:48,080 --> 02:49:52,960
transition, minimize disruption and uh

1601
02:49:51,359 --> 02:49:55,760
yeah for the municipality and business

1602
02:49:52,960 --> 02:49:57,439
community and then giving us time to uh

1603
02:49:55,760 --> 02:50:00,319
determine an appropriate long-term

1604
02:49:57,439 --> 02:50:03,760
service model. So, effective January

1605
02:50:00,319 --> 02:50:06,960
1st, 2027, the BRA has advised that the

1606
02:50:03,760 --> 02:50:09,920
annual cost for an ICI uh recycling

1607
02:50:06,960 --> 02:50:12,560
wheelie bin will be $160

1608
02:50:09,920 --> 02:50:16,000
uh per bin per year. So, currently there

1609
02:50:12,560 --> 02:50:20,680
are approximately $250 uh bins um within

1610
02:50:16,000 --> 02:50:20,680
the municipality serviced by the BRA.

1611
02:50:20,720 --> 02:50:25,760
So, there are three options uh for the

1612
02:50:23,600 --> 02:50:28,800
recycling uh collection service delivery

1613
02:50:25,760 --> 02:50:30,960
for 2027. So our first option is to

1614
02:50:28,800 --> 02:50:33,439
maintain the previous service model. Um

1615
02:50:30,960 --> 02:50:35,760
we'd continue to provide ICI recycling

1616
02:50:33,439 --> 02:50:38,479
services and absorb the full cost of the

1617
02:50:35,760 --> 02:50:41,520
service within the municipality. Um that

1618
02:50:38,479 --> 02:50:43,680
would uh the disadvantage would be that

1619
02:50:41,520 --> 02:50:46,720
um the services would be paid through

1620
02:50:43,680 --> 02:50:50,640
the municipal tax levy. Um so that would

1621
02:50:46,720 --> 02:50:53,439
be it'd be around $40,000 per year. Uh

1622
02:50:50,640 --> 02:50:56,240
the second option is to implement cost

1623
02:50:53,439 --> 02:50:58,319
recovery through user fees. Um so under

1624
02:50:56,240 --> 02:51:00,160
this uh option, municipalities would

1625
02:50:58,319 --> 02:51:02,319
continue to offer or West Perth would

1626
02:51:00,160 --> 02:51:06,240
continue to offer recycling collection,

1627
02:51:02,319 --> 02:51:09,279
but we would recover some or um all of

1628
02:51:06,240 --> 02:51:12,319
the associated costs from participating

1629
02:51:09,279 --> 02:51:14,319
um ICI properties through a user fee.

1630
02:51:12,319 --> 02:51:17,359
And then the last option would be to

1631
02:51:14,319 --> 02:51:21,279
discontinue services uh completely. Um

1632
02:51:17,359 --> 02:51:23,760
and then the businesses um institutions

1633
02:51:21,279 --> 02:51:26,800
um they would have to uh seek their own

1634
02:51:23,760 --> 02:51:28,640
recycling collection services. So um the

1635
02:51:26,800 --> 02:51:31,359
big disadvantage there would be to it

1636
02:51:28,640 --> 02:51:33,520
would uh reduce recycling participation

1637
02:51:31,359 --> 02:51:36,000
potentially and waste diversion um from

1638
02:51:33,520 --> 02:51:38,160
the landfill and from that whole sector.

1639
02:51:36,000 --> 02:51:42,399
Um so we could see an increase in

1640
02:51:38,160 --> 02:51:45,760
landfill um disposal volumes. Um staff

1641
02:51:42,399 --> 02:51:48,080
is recommending option two. Um, so

1642
02:51:45,760 --> 02:51:51,279
financially, as I said earlier, um, this

1643
02:51:48,080 --> 02:51:53,359
would be, uh, a result of around $40,000

1644
02:51:51,279 --> 02:51:56,160
impact on our solid waste, uh,

1645
02:51:53,359 --> 02:51:58,000
operations budget. Um, and so currently,

1646
02:51:56,160 --> 02:52:01,279
just in the residential blue box

1647
02:51:58,000 --> 02:52:05,200
program, we're around $15,530

1648
02:52:01,279 --> 02:52:07,200
per year for just the residential um,

1649
02:52:05,200 --> 02:52:09,040
recycling program. That covers like

1650
02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:11,200
urban and rural residents within the

1651
02:52:09,040 --> 02:52:13,520
municipality.

1652
02:52:11,200 --> 02:52:15,600
Um, if council approves option two, the

1653
02:52:13,520 --> 02:52:18,240
municipality would establish a cost

1654
02:52:15,600 --> 02:52:20,319
recovery mechanism to recover some or

1655
02:52:18,240 --> 02:52:22,080
all of the annual service costs for the

1656
02:52:20,319 --> 02:52:24,399
participating municipality or

1657
02:52:22,080 --> 02:52:26,720
properties. Um, the total financial

1658
02:52:24,399 --> 02:52:29,200
impact would depend on whether council

1659
02:52:26,720 --> 02:52:32,479
wishes to uh recover the full cost or

1660
02:52:29,200 --> 02:52:34,560
only a portion thereof. So, I'm happy to

1661
02:52:32,479 --> 02:52:37,840
uh answer any questions.

1662
02:52:34,560 --> 02:52:40,160
» Okay, any questions on that?

1663
02:52:37,840 --> 02:52:44,319
Alex, go ahead.

1664
02:52:40,160 --> 02:52:46,319
If we go ahead with option two at $160

1665
02:52:44,319 --> 02:52:49,040
for the wheelie bin, that's the like

1666
02:52:46,319 --> 02:52:50,160
medium 240s or whatever the standard

1667
02:52:49,040 --> 02:52:51,200
mediums are now.

1668
02:52:50,160 --> 02:52:54,399
» Correct. Yes.

1669
02:52:51,200 --> 02:52:56,880
» Um, so that's effectively the same price

1670
02:52:54,399 --> 02:52:58,560
as we are for that size of garbage bin.

1671
02:52:56,880 --> 02:53:00,399
So wouldn't people be more inclined to

1672
02:52:58,560 --> 02:53:03,200
buy a garbage bin and not have to care

1673
02:53:00,399 --> 02:53:04,640
and just pack it all in and then that's

1674
02:53:03,200 --> 02:53:07,120
not going to divert it?

1675
02:53:04,640 --> 02:53:08,880
» Uh, yes. through the mirror. Yeah. The

1676
02:53:07,120 --> 02:53:10,479
the hope would be that people would the

1677
02:53:08,880 --> 02:53:13,200
commercial businesses would still want

1678
02:53:10,479 --> 02:53:16,359
to recycle and not pack everything into

1679
02:53:13,200 --> 02:53:16,359
the garbage

1680
02:53:17,439 --> 02:53:25,439
question that I have. Um, so if we offer

1681
02:53:22,240 --> 02:53:28,000
them the willie bin, um, and I'm

1682
02:53:25,439 --> 02:53:30,479
thinking of some of the large users with

1683
02:53:28,000 --> 02:53:32,319
a lot of cardboard, uh, you know, I

1684
02:53:30,479 --> 02:53:35,840
guess I'm thinking maybe like a Gatlers

1685
02:53:32,319 --> 02:53:37,600
in Dublin and maybe even the independent

1686
02:53:35,840 --> 02:53:40,960
grocery store where they get a lot of

1687
02:53:37,600 --> 02:53:45,680
stuff, cardboard boxes, they maybe

1688
02:53:40,960 --> 02:53:47,680
already have a deal with a with a with a

1689
02:53:45,680 --> 02:53:49,279
an outfit that would have a bin that

1690
02:53:47,680 --> 02:53:51,840
they would be putting this stuff bin.

1691
02:53:49,279 --> 02:53:53,920
So, do they have to take a wheelie bin

1692
02:53:51,840 --> 02:53:55,359
or if they decide they have a bin or

1693
02:53:53,920 --> 02:53:56,960
want to use a bin that that would be

1694
02:53:55,359 --> 02:53:59,040
what they would use?

1695
02:53:56,960 --> 02:54:02,800
» Uh, yeah. So, Mayor McKenzie, so they

1696
02:53:59,040 --> 02:54:04,800
they may have their own separate um

1697
02:54:02,800 --> 02:54:05,840
contract with a like a waste management

1698
02:54:04,800 --> 02:54:06,479
or or

1699
02:54:05,840 --> 02:54:10,000
» That's what I was saying,

1700
02:54:06,479 --> 02:54:11,760
» Right? They may um there are other uh

1701
02:54:10,000 --> 02:54:14,560
commercial businesses that have several

1702
02:54:11,760 --> 02:54:17,120
wheelie bins already here, so they would

1703
02:54:14,560 --> 02:54:19,760
have to pay per wheelie bin. But if they

1704
02:54:17,120 --> 02:54:22,720
wanted to go to a have a separate avenue

1705
02:54:19,760 --> 02:54:25,760
where they would um have a different

1706
02:54:22,720 --> 02:54:28,160
business come and provide a larger uh a

1707
02:54:25,760 --> 02:54:29,520
larger bin than they would have to that

1708
02:54:28,160 --> 02:54:29,840
would be out of their own pocket,

1709
02:54:29,520 --> 02:54:30,160
» Right?

1710
02:54:29,840 --> 02:54:31,359
» Yeah.

1711
02:54:30,160 --> 02:54:33,600
» Well, it's going to be out of their own

1712
02:54:31,359 --> 02:54:36,479
pocket no matter what. So So they can

1713
02:54:33,600 --> 02:54:36,800
opt out of of our really bin if they

1714
02:54:36,479 --> 02:54:38,640
wish.

1715
02:54:36,800 --> 02:54:40,080
» If they don't want that provided, then

1716
02:54:38,640 --> 02:54:41,279
they can go a separate route and then

1717
02:54:40,080 --> 02:54:42,479
that that'd be something that they'd

1718
02:54:41,279 --> 02:54:44,560
have to do on their own,

1719
02:54:42,479 --> 02:54:46,319
» Right? But they'd have to well they'd

1720
02:54:44,560 --> 02:54:49,120
have to notify us.

1721
02:54:46,319 --> 02:54:50,800
first so that we knew what it was

1722
02:54:49,120 --> 02:54:53,200
» And

1723
02:54:50,800 --> 02:54:55,439
you know when we inform them of this

1724
02:54:53,200 --> 02:54:57,359
that's we maybe should indicate that to

1725
02:54:55,439 --> 02:54:58,880
them like I'm thinking of the larger

1726
02:54:57,359 --> 02:55:01,359
users anyways.

1727
02:54:58,880 --> 02:55:03,359
» Yeah. So so once we come up with a a

1728
02:55:01,359 --> 02:55:03,760
decision then that'll be when we start

1729
02:55:03,359 --> 02:55:05,200
» Yeah.

1730
02:55:03,760 --> 02:55:06,640
» Doing the Yeah. notifying of

1731
02:55:05,200 --> 02:55:09,600
» Right of our direction. Yeah.

1732
02:55:06,640 --> 02:55:14,040
» That's good. Any other questions?

1733
02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:14,040
Uh council Rose.

1734
02:55:14,319 --> 02:55:17,760
So this is just for commercial. This is

1735
02:55:16,640 --> 02:55:19,279
it residential,

1736
02:55:17,760 --> 02:55:20,399
» Commercial and industrial, right?

1737
02:55:19,279 --> 02:55:22,560
» Industrial. Okay.

1738
02:55:20,399 --> 02:55:25,760
» Institutional, industrial, commercial.

1739
02:55:22,560 --> 02:55:28,000
» Thank you.

1740
02:55:25,760 --> 02:55:30,399
» Anybody else?

1741
02:55:28,000 --> 02:55:35,120
Okay. Uh we do have a recommendation

1742
02:55:30,399 --> 02:55:37,359
here. Um, and I'm assuming this is the

1743
02:55:35,120 --> 02:55:38,960
one we're going to use that uh the

1744
02:55:37,359 --> 02:55:42,399
council municipality of West Perth

1745
02:55:38,960 --> 02:55:44,319
approve option two uh implement cost

1746
02:55:42,399 --> 02:55:48,399
recovery through user fees for

1747
02:55:44,319 --> 02:55:51,200
industrial, commercial and institutional

1748
02:55:48,399 --> 02:55:53,840
recycling collection services identified

1749
02:55:51,200 --> 02:55:57,120
in the staff report

1750
02:55:53,840 --> 02:55:59,439
seconded for that. Uh, Deputy Mayor

1751
02:55:57,120 --> 02:56:03,600
Tankowski and seconded by councelor

1752
02:55:59,439 --> 02:56:04,240
Rose. Last call for questions, comments.

1753
02:56:03,600 --> 02:56:05,680
Councelor

1754
02:56:04,240 --> 02:56:08,800
» Mayor McKenzie, I think it'll be really

1755
02:56:05,680 --> 02:56:11,760
important uh the communication uh after

1756
02:56:08,800 --> 02:56:13,760
this decision if we pass this resolution

1757
02:56:11,760 --> 02:56:17,760
that that'll be uh very important.

1758
02:56:13,760 --> 02:56:20,080
» Yeah. No, I agree. Any other questions?

1759
02:56:17,760 --> 02:56:23,120
Okay. Ready for the motion? All those in

1760
02:56:20,080 --> 02:56:23,680
favor? Opposed? If any, that's carried.

1761
02:56:23,120 --> 02:56:25,200
Thank you.

1762
02:56:23,680 --> 02:56:28,000
» Thank you.

1763
02:56:25,200 --> 02:56:30,000
Uh, next on the agenda, we have uh

1764
02:56:28,000 --> 02:56:32,399
director of community services with

1765
02:56:30,000 --> 02:56:35,359
regards to the West Peru Center and

1766
02:56:32,399 --> 02:56:38,359
donations. So, another good news story,

1767
02:56:35,359 --> 02:56:38,359
Nick.

1768
02:56:41,920 --> 02:56:46,000
» Oh, you left it on. Good evening, Mayor

1769
02:56:44,160 --> 02:56:49,359
McKenzie and members of council. Uh,

1770
02:56:46,000 --> 02:56:52,399
before you is a report of a youth center

1771
02:56:49,359 --> 02:56:53,439
donation in the amount of $8,500.

1772
02:56:52,399 --> 02:56:55,600
We're bringing forward this

1773
02:56:53,439 --> 02:56:57,920
recommendation to accept these uh

1774
02:56:55,600 --> 02:57:00,000
donated funds for youth center

1775
02:56:57,920 --> 02:57:02,640
equipment. Uh the donations were

1776
02:57:00,000 --> 02:57:04,880
generously received from the Lions Club

1777
02:57:02,640 --> 02:57:06,560
of Monton Camp Kids in the amount of

1778
02:57:04,880 --> 02:57:08,080
$2,000,

1779
02:57:06,560 --> 02:57:11,120
West Perth Community Singers in the

1780
02:57:08,080 --> 02:57:12,960
amount of $1,500 and Osborne and Hibbert

1781
02:57:11,120 --> 02:57:14,960
Mutual Fire Insurance Company in the

1782
02:57:12,960 --> 02:57:17,359
amount of $5,000.

1783
02:57:14,960 --> 02:57:19,840
All three donors have requested that

1784
02:57:17,359 --> 02:57:22,080
this uh that their contributions go to

1785
02:57:19,840 --> 02:57:24,240
equipment for that benefits the youth

1786
02:57:22,080 --> 02:57:27,680
center users.

1787
02:57:24,240 --> 02:57:29,920
Um staff are proposing the funds uh

1788
02:57:27,680 --> 02:57:32,319
sorry proposed equipment includes a

1789
02:57:29,920 --> 02:57:35,680
water bottle fill station, a mobile pool

1790
02:57:32,319 --> 02:57:37,920
table, interactive game projector, a

1791
02:57:35,680 --> 02:57:41,439
rock band game and instruments as well

1792
02:57:37,920 --> 02:57:44,160
as an arcade game cabinet. uh no

1793
02:57:41,439 --> 02:57:46,160
additional funds is required where this

1794
02:57:44,160 --> 02:57:52,200
uh donate these donations cover the

1795
02:57:46,160 --> 02:57:52,200
amount of all these uh donations. Um

1796
02:57:52,240 --> 02:57:56,080
all the equipment will remain the

1797
02:57:53,920 --> 02:57:58,800
property of us at the municipality once

1798
02:57:56,080 --> 02:58:01,600
purchased and maintained by us as well.

1799
02:57:58,800 --> 02:58:03,920
and uh

1800
02:58:01,600 --> 02:58:06,640
staff will invite the donating

1801
02:58:03,920 --> 02:58:09,120
organizations to a recognized event at

1802
02:58:06,640 --> 02:58:11,040
our youth center to honor the donation

1803
02:58:09,120 --> 02:58:14,399
once uh these have been purchased and

1804
02:58:11,040 --> 02:58:16,560
installed in place. So again, as staff

1805
02:58:14,399 --> 02:58:19,520
are recommending that we accept these

1806
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:22,080
donations and direct the usage towards

1807
02:58:19,520 --> 02:58:26,000
use center equipment. So if there's any

1808
02:58:22,080 --> 02:58:29,120
questions, I can take them now. Okay,

1809
02:58:26,000 --> 02:58:30,720
» Questions for Nick on that.

1810
02:58:29,120 --> 02:58:32,319
Don't see any hands going up. So, very

1811
02:58:30,720 --> 02:58:36,000
good. So, we do have a recommendation

1812
02:58:32,319 --> 02:58:39,520
here that uh West Perth accept donated

1813
02:58:36,000 --> 02:58:41,600
funds totaling uh $8,500 and direct the

1814
02:58:39,520 --> 02:58:44,160
treasur to allocate the funds for the

1815
02:58:41,600 --> 02:58:46,800
purchase of per um uh purpose of

1816
02:58:44,160 --> 02:58:50,640
purchasing youth center equipment during

1817
02:58:46,800 --> 02:58:53,279
the 2026 fiscal year. Moved by councelor

1818
02:58:50,640 --> 02:58:56,880
Herald, seconded by

1819
02:58:53,279 --> 02:58:59,840
um councelor Rose. Uh, all those in

1820
02:58:56,880 --> 02:59:02,960
favor posed, if any, that's carried.

1821
02:58:59,840 --> 02:59:05,279
Thanks, Nick. Um, connecting link

1822
02:59:02,960 --> 02:59:08,000
transfer. Dan,

1823
02:59:05,279 --> 02:59:09,600
thank you, mayor. Uh, before council

1824
02:59:08,000 --> 02:59:11,600
tonight, I'm seeking some direction on

1825
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:14,319
how to proceed. Essentially, I've landed

1826
02:59:11,600 --> 02:59:15,680
at a crossroads and uh, you know, as

1827
02:59:14,319 --> 02:59:18,319
noted in the report, we've been kind of

1828
02:59:15,680 --> 02:59:21,279
dealing with this matter since 2022.

1829
02:59:18,319 --> 02:59:24,240
Um, and really what it's boiled down to

1830
02:59:21,279 --> 02:59:26,080
is that as uh the the urban settlement

1831
02:59:24,240 --> 02:59:29,279
boundary has changed and and grown

1832
02:59:26,080 --> 02:59:31,120
through the official plan, um, the

1833
02:59:29,279 --> 02:59:33,200
municipality doesn't have jurisdiction

1834
02:59:31,120 --> 02:59:36,800
within its quote unquote boundary

1835
02:59:33,200 --> 02:59:39,439
anymore. Um, and it and it's with MTO.

1836
02:59:36,800 --> 02:59:41,760
Um, and that leaves it problematic for

1837
02:59:39,439 --> 02:59:43,600
us to try to address speeding through

1838
02:59:41,760 --> 02:59:46,720
traditional means such as, you know,

1839
02:59:43,600 --> 02:59:49,200
changing speed limits, signage, and

1840
02:59:46,720 --> 02:59:52,160
enforcement as well from from a bylaw

1841
02:59:49,200 --> 02:59:54,640
standpoint. Um, I think I've laid out

1842
02:59:52,160 --> 02:59:58,080
the events that have transpired quite

1843
02:59:54,640 --> 03:00:00,640
well in the report. Um and the next step

1844
02:59:58,080 --> 03:00:02,800
for us is to get a recommendation from

1845
03:00:00,640 --> 03:00:06,640
council that we start to have some

1846
03:00:02,800 --> 03:00:09,520
discussions with the MTO about uh

1847
03:00:06,640 --> 03:00:11,359
extending the connecting link limits so

1848
03:00:09,520 --> 03:00:14,960
they match our urban settlement boundary

1849
03:00:11,359 --> 03:00:19,080
with our OPA. Um

1850
03:00:14,960 --> 03:00:19,080
and I'm happy to have any questions

1851
03:00:19,600 --> 03:00:26,960
questions for Dan on that.

1852
03:00:23,600 --> 03:00:29,200
I Oh, Alex, go ahead.

1853
03:00:26,960 --> 03:00:31,680
What would the increased ongoing cost of

1854
03:00:29,200 --> 03:00:33,760
maintaining that be given what it how

1855
03:00:31,680 --> 03:00:35,520
much it costs us to do the other part of

1856
03:00:33,760 --> 03:00:37,520
our connecting link because we can't do

1857
03:00:35,520 --> 03:00:40,640
it in house?

1858
03:00:37,520 --> 03:00:42,479
» Um I don't know at this time I don't

1859
03:00:40,640 --> 03:00:45,040
know how much they'd be willing to

1860
03:00:42,479 --> 03:00:46,479
partner with and I don't know the cost

1861
03:00:45,040 --> 03:00:48,640
of those assets. So that's that's

1862
03:00:46,479 --> 03:00:49,920
basically why we need direction. uh they

1863
03:00:48,640 --> 03:00:51,760
won't sit down and have these

1864
03:00:49,920 --> 03:00:53,920
discussions with us until we get this

1865
03:00:51,760 --> 03:00:56,560
direction from council and have this

1866
03:00:53,920 --> 03:00:58,960
motion.

1867
03:00:56,560 --> 03:01:00,640
» I think um you know I don't know whether

1868
03:00:58,960 --> 03:01:02,560
we really need to buy the highway. You

1869
03:01:00,640 --> 03:01:04,880
know I think if we can just get them all

1870
03:01:02,560 --> 03:01:07,200
we really how this all started was speed

1871
03:01:04,880 --> 03:01:11,840
signs and we want to move them out. You

1872
03:01:07,200 --> 03:01:13,520
know um I would like I I'm in favor of

1873
03:01:11,840 --> 03:01:16,000
you know what you're wanting but I

1874
03:01:13,520 --> 03:01:18,160
wonder if we shouldn't be copying after

1875
03:01:16,000 --> 03:01:21,680
after our meeting in Toronto. I think we

1876
03:01:18,160 --> 03:01:26,080
we're we're would be able to copy our

1877
03:01:21,680 --> 03:01:28,720
minister and and Matt Ray as well and

1878
03:01:26,080 --> 03:01:30,399
just show them that it's taken since

1879
03:01:28,720 --> 03:01:34,560
1922

1880
03:01:30,399 --> 03:01:36,319
or 2022 rather to try and put a speed

1881
03:01:34,560 --> 03:01:38,800
sign. And I think the one that comes to

1882
03:01:36,319 --> 03:01:42,000
mind obviously is the one out by uh West

1883
03:01:38,800 --> 03:01:44,319
Perth Village uh because of you know the

1884
03:01:42,000 --> 03:01:47,279
long-term care facility there and and

1885
03:01:44,319 --> 03:01:49,920
the closeness to the schools and it it

1886
03:01:47,279 --> 03:01:53,279
shouldn't be rocket science to do that

1887
03:01:49,920 --> 03:01:55,279
you know so um I don't know if anybody

1888
03:01:53,279 --> 03:01:57,040
else has any further comments but we

1889
03:01:55,279 --> 03:02:00,160
have an issues there and we have issues

1890
03:01:57,040 --> 03:02:02,479
out at the east end as well at that

1891
03:02:00,160 --> 03:02:03,520
part. So the recommendation, if nobody

1892
03:02:02,479 --> 03:02:05,680
has any other question, the

1893
03:02:03,520 --> 03:02:08,880
recommendation is that municipality

1894
03:02:05,680 --> 03:02:10,800
Westport uh supports uh discussions with

1895
03:02:08,880 --> 03:02:12,800
the Ontario Ministry of Transportation

1896
03:02:10,800 --> 03:02:14,640
regarding the potential transfer and

1897
03:02:12,800 --> 03:02:18,000
designation of additional sections of

1898
03:02:14,640 --> 03:02:20,160
Highway 23 and Highway 8 of the existing

1899
03:02:18,000 --> 03:02:22,640
connecting link limits within the

1900
03:02:20,160 --> 03:02:25,040
municipality of West Perth to align with

1901
03:02:22,640 --> 03:02:27,359
the settlement area boundary. and that

1902
03:02:25,040 --> 03:02:29,600
the clerk be directed to prepare and

1903
03:02:27,359 --> 03:02:32,479
submit formal correspondence respecting

1904
03:02:29,600 --> 03:02:35,520
the proposed revision to the connecting

1905
03:02:32,479 --> 03:02:38,000
link limits. So I have a mover and

1906
03:02:35,520 --> 03:02:40,640
seconder for that moved by Deputy Mayor

1907
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Tinkowski, seconded by Councelor

1908
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O'Donnell. Any further discussion?

1909
03:02:44,399 --> 03:02:48,399
Um

1910
03:02:45,920 --> 03:02:50,640
Dean, sorry. Hopefully this doesn't take

1911
03:02:48,399 --> 03:02:52,720
another four years to happen because uh

1912
03:02:50,640 --> 03:02:55,920
yeah, you're right, Mayor McKenzie. was

1913
03:02:52,720 --> 03:02:58,160
a simple petition dealing with traffic

1914
03:02:55,920 --> 03:03:00,479
speed concerns and this has gone on too

1915
03:02:58,160 --> 03:03:02,479
long. So happy to support this

1916
03:03:00,479 --> 03:03:04,399
recommendation and happy to support

1917
03:03:02,479 --> 03:03:06,960
staff and trying to get this figured

1918
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out. Thanks.

1919
03:03:06,960 --> 03:03:12,319
Somebody have a question over here. No,

1920
03:03:08,880 --> 03:03:13,840
no, we're good. Okay. Um, yeah, like I

1921
03:03:12,319 --> 03:03:15,439
like I said previously, I don't know

1922
03:03:13,840 --> 03:03:17,279
whether we need to buy the highway, but

1923
03:03:15,439 --> 03:03:19,680
all we want is just to move it out a

1924
03:03:17,279 --> 03:03:22,479
little bit and and change the speed

1925
03:03:19,680 --> 03:03:24,160
limit a bit. So, okay.

1926
03:03:22,479 --> 03:03:26,479
Just confirm vote there.

1927
03:03:24,160 --> 03:03:28,880
» Yeah, I will. Yep. I knew I had to do

1928
03:03:26,479 --> 03:03:33,200
that yet. So, all those in favor?

1929
03:03:28,880 --> 03:03:36,240
Opposed? If any, that is carried.

1930
03:03:33,200 --> 03:03:39,439
It never hurts to remind me.

1931
03:03:36,240 --> 03:03:41,840
Uh the next item then is 8.8.3,

1932
03:03:39,439 --> 03:03:43,920
the Memorial Forest Playground. And Dan

1933
03:03:41,840 --> 03:03:46,479
is going to talk to us on that one.

1934
03:03:43,920 --> 03:03:49,120
» Yep. Thank you. Um kind of a report back

1935
03:03:46,479 --> 03:03:51,680
um item here. So, council's seen uh this

1936
03:03:49,120 --> 03:03:53,760
report before. uh we got direction at

1937
03:03:51,680 --> 03:03:55,439
the last time to kind of bring back some

1938
03:03:53,760 --> 03:03:57,520
information regarding that that natural

1939
03:03:55,439 --> 03:03:59,760
playground um as well as some

1940
03:03:57,520 --> 03:04:02,000
accessibility features and some changes

1941
03:03:59,760 --> 03:04:04,160
to the site plan. Um I don't have the

1942
03:04:02,000 --> 03:04:06,399
site plan finalized at this point in

1943
03:04:04,160 --> 03:04:09,200
time. Um but we've also been working

1944
03:04:06,399 --> 03:04:11,200
with environmental um stewardship at at

1945
03:04:09,200 --> 03:04:13,680
the county as well for some some

1946
03:04:11,200 --> 03:04:15,520
revisions there. Uh but essentially

1947
03:04:13,680 --> 03:04:18,160
we're here. We still think the blue imp

1948
03:04:15,520 --> 03:04:19,600
is the way to go uh based on what you

1949
03:04:18,160 --> 03:04:20,800
know you can see from a natural

1950
03:04:19,600 --> 03:04:22,960
standpoint.

1951
03:04:20,800 --> 03:04:26,000
kind of the bang for your buck there and

1952
03:04:22,960 --> 03:04:27,520
and we have added an accessible feature

1953
03:04:26,000 --> 03:04:29,439
into the playground as well and it

1954
03:04:27,520 --> 03:04:31,439
hasn't had a large impact on the budget.

1955
03:04:29,439 --> 03:04:35,279
So, we're looking for a direction to

1956
03:04:31,439 --> 03:04:38,960
kind of proceed ahead here and uh yeah,

1957
03:04:35,279 --> 03:04:42,080
happy to have any questions if there are

1958
03:04:38,960 --> 03:04:43,680
questions for Dan on that. I know we had

1959
03:04:42,080 --> 03:04:47,040
it at a previous meeting. We talked

1960
03:04:43,680 --> 03:04:49,200
about it. So, we're good. Okay. Uh so

1961
03:04:47,040 --> 03:04:51,040
the recommendation here is that the

1962
03:04:49,200 --> 03:04:53,279
municipality of West Perth approved the

1963
03:04:51,040 --> 03:04:55,920
blue rimp playground design for the new

1964
03:04:53,279 --> 03:04:58,080
memorial forest playground and that

1965
03:04:55,920 --> 03:05:00,720
council authorize staff to utilize

1966
03:04:58,080 --> 03:05:03,200
110,000 from the parkland reserve to

1967
03:05:00,720 --> 03:05:05,760
utilize group buying procurement for the

1968
03:05:03,200 --> 03:05:07,840
purchase of the blue and uh playground

1969
03:05:05,760 --> 03:05:10,319
and that council direct staff to report

1970
03:05:07,840 --> 03:05:13,200
back with a site plan and sponsorship

1971
03:05:10,319 --> 03:05:15,840
agreement for their review. Move her and

1972
03:05:13,200 --> 03:05:18,399
second her for that. Uh, councelor Duck,

1973
03:05:15,840 --> 03:05:19,920
is the councelor Fornier still on? Yep,

1974
03:05:18,399 --> 03:05:22,560
he's there. Would you like to second

1975
03:05:19,920 --> 03:05:23,279
that, Andrew?

1976
03:05:22,560 --> 03:05:24,720
Yep, he's

1977
03:05:23,279 --> 03:05:27,520
» I've been seconding stuff all night. You

1978
03:05:24,720 --> 03:05:31,439
just never see.

1979
03:05:27,520 --> 03:05:33,840
» Okay. Um, last call for questions. All

1980
03:05:31,439 --> 03:05:37,200
those in favor? Opposed? If any, that's

1981
03:05:33,840 --> 03:05:39,600
carried. Uh, next item then is Kison

1982
03:05:37,200 --> 03:05:41,840
Park Pavilion Electrical Repair and

1983
03:05:39,600 --> 03:05:43,600
Parking Lot Upgrades. Dan,

1984
03:05:41,840 --> 03:05:45,200
» Thank you. This is a new one um coming

1985
03:05:43,600 --> 03:05:46,720
forward. So I believe council would have

1986
03:05:45,200 --> 03:05:49,439
received some letters from the uh

1987
03:05:46,720 --> 03:05:52,000
agricultural society and uh following

1988
03:05:49,439 --> 03:05:54,399
that we had a meeting um with the mayor

1989
03:05:52,000 --> 03:05:57,680
and some staff with the society and

1990
03:05:54,399 --> 03:06:00,399
wanted to unpack um just kind of the

1991
03:05:57,680 --> 03:06:02,560
content of the letters. Uh prior to that

1992
03:06:00,399 --> 03:06:05,359
we were aware so essentially I'll get

1993
03:06:02,560 --> 03:06:07,520
into the pavilion um the electrical

1994
03:06:05,359 --> 03:06:09,040
repairs right now. I I didn't know what

1995
03:06:07,520 --> 03:06:11,279
to call it, so repair seems like the

1996
03:06:09,040 --> 03:06:13,600
most appropriate one. But, uh,

1997
03:06:11,279 --> 03:06:16,080
essentially the it's all the plugs,

1998
03:06:13,600 --> 03:06:18,479
receptacles are looped onto to one

1999
03:06:16,080 --> 03:06:20,720
breaker. So, during the fair, um, the

2000
03:06:18,479 --> 03:06:24,319
cattle dryers get plugged in and they

2001
03:06:20,720 --> 03:06:26,399
continuously trip that breaker. Um, so

2002
03:06:24,319 --> 03:06:28,800
what the request is is for us to go in

2003
03:06:26,399 --> 03:06:30,880
and essentially just repair that. So,

2004
03:06:28,800 --> 03:06:34,399
we've worked with uh our electrician

2005
03:06:30,880 --> 03:06:36,160
here and we think um obviously adding

2006
03:06:34,399 --> 03:06:39,760
another breaker into the line is going

2007
03:06:36,160 --> 03:06:42,080
to repair that problem. Um, so I will

2008
03:06:39,760 --> 03:06:43,439
disclose, sorry, this report's changed a

2009
03:06:42,080 --> 03:06:48,080
little bit, but I want to disclose that

2010
03:06:43,439 --> 03:06:51,120
I I authorized that um through uh

2011
03:06:48,080 --> 03:06:54,479
through our existing budget um to kind

2012
03:06:51,120 --> 03:06:56,479
of find the 10 grand in there or or not

2013
03:06:54,479 --> 03:06:57,680
proceed with a with a project uh because

2014
03:06:56,479 --> 03:06:59,520
we wanted to get it done before the

2015
03:06:57,680 --> 03:07:00,720
fair. But I'm also bringing it here for

2016
03:06:59,520 --> 03:07:02,800
council because I don't have authority

2017
03:07:00,720 --> 03:07:04,160
to pull from a reserve. So, we we are

2018
03:07:02,800 --> 03:07:06,960
recommending you pull from a reserve,

2019
03:07:04,160 --> 03:07:08,800
but if not, um we I've certainly got a

2020
03:07:06,960 --> 03:07:11,840
plan for this and I can report back to

2021
03:07:08,800 --> 03:07:14,800
what that would be. Um but we wanted

2022
03:07:11,840 --> 03:07:16,960
that done. And then the egg society is

2023
03:07:14,800 --> 03:07:20,160
also looking at doing some paving um in

2024
03:07:16,960 --> 03:07:22,240
front of Crystal Palace and based on

2025
03:07:20,160 --> 03:07:24,240
quotes um we thought it would be a good

2026
03:07:22,240 --> 03:07:25,600
idea if they're in their paving, maybe

2027
03:07:24,240 --> 03:07:27,760
we should see what it costs to pave some

2028
03:07:25,600 --> 03:07:29,279
of our unpaved parking lot. Uh we've

2029
03:07:27,760 --> 03:07:31,680
identified kind of the areas there that

2030
03:07:29,279 --> 03:07:33,600
we think would be suitable for paving.

2031
03:07:31,680 --> 03:07:35,920
At this point, we we recommend just

2032
03:07:33,600 --> 03:07:38,720
carrying forward with with I'll say

2033
03:07:35,920 --> 03:07:40,319
section B right now. Um, and we showed

2034
03:07:38,720 --> 03:07:41,760
kind of the exercise where we were

2035
03:07:40,319 --> 03:07:45,200
looking at doing this and they're in

2036
03:07:41,760 --> 03:07:46,720
support of it as well. Um, so that would

2037
03:07:45,200 --> 03:07:48,479
be our main purpose. It just kind of

2038
03:07:46,720 --> 03:07:50,399
cleans up the parking lot. It's not

2039
03:07:48,479 --> 03:07:52,319
something that, you know, was really

2040
03:07:50,399 --> 03:07:54,240
part of the arena renovations or

2041
03:07:52,319 --> 03:07:56,240
anything. It it came to fruition through

2042
03:07:54,240 --> 03:07:59,840
through this ask and and a bit of an

2043
03:07:56,240 --> 03:08:01,600
idea. um that way as well as they've uh

2044
03:07:59,840 --> 03:08:03,600
requested

2045
03:08:01,600 --> 03:08:07,040
um I believe they requested financial

2046
03:08:03,600 --> 03:08:09,600
support to the cost of 30,000 and I got

2047
03:08:07,040 --> 03:08:12,640
into this and into the report of of kind

2048
03:08:09,600 --> 03:08:15,439
of the history of that we sorry my

2049
03:08:12,640 --> 03:08:16,960
computer just died. We had $5,000 carry

2050
03:08:15,439 --> 03:08:19,439
forward that we put in the reserve from

2051
03:08:16,960 --> 03:08:21,200
I think approximately two years ago. Um

2052
03:08:19,439 --> 03:08:23,680
and then we're looking at providing an

2053
03:08:21,200 --> 03:08:26,399
additional five um in financial support.

2054
03:08:23,680 --> 03:08:28,000
So, we'd be providing them $10,000 of

2055
03:08:26,399 --> 03:08:30,160
financial support towards their

2056
03:08:28,000 --> 03:08:33,279
projects. And we are currently working

2057
03:08:30,160 --> 03:08:35,120
with them on drainage matters as well.

2058
03:08:33,279 --> 03:08:37,680
Um, I'm sorry, Nick, I don't know if

2059
03:08:35,120 --> 03:08:40,160
it's been scoped yet, but we're looking

2060
03:08:37,680 --> 03:08:41,680
at getting uh some of the drainage work

2061
03:08:40,160 --> 03:08:42,880
to figuring out what's happening over

2062
03:08:41,680 --> 03:08:45,279
there and why we're getting some

2063
03:08:42,880 --> 03:08:47,520
ponding. Um, ideally, we can find the

2064
03:08:45,279 --> 03:08:52,000
solution and fix it internally with our

2065
03:08:47,520 --> 03:08:55,200
with our staff here. Um, so

2066
03:08:52,000 --> 03:08:59,359
happy to have any questions.

2067
03:08:55,200 --> 03:09:03,359
» Any questions? I just had one. Um, when

2068
03:08:59,359 --> 03:09:05,760
we were getting prices for paving,

2069
03:09:03,359 --> 03:09:07,840
um, we have Levis kind of lined up. Did

2070
03:09:05,760 --> 03:09:10,640
we get more than one quote or not?

2071
03:09:07,840 --> 03:09:13,120
» We got a quote from Levis and they got a

2072
03:09:10,640 --> 03:09:15,680
quote.

2073
03:09:13,120 --> 03:09:18,160
Nick, can you sorry my but do you

2074
03:09:15,680 --> 03:09:21,960
remember

2075
03:09:18,160 --> 03:09:21,960
they were the company?

2076
03:09:23,600 --> 03:09:28,319
Great. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. So, we we

2077
03:09:26,000 --> 03:09:32,479
did have two. Yeah. All right. Well, I

2078
03:09:28,319 --> 03:09:35,439
just I always get another quote.

2079
03:09:32,479 --> 03:09:37,680
Any other questions? Okay. Uh, I got a

2080
03:09:35,439 --> 03:09:39,920
recommendation here then that uh, Miss

2081
03:09:37,680 --> 03:09:43,279
Balia West Perth approve the new Kerson

2082
03:09:39,920 --> 03:09:45,279
Park Capital expense of up to $85,000 to

2083
03:09:43,279 --> 03:09:48,399
be funded from reserve for parks and

2084
03:09:45,279 --> 03:09:51,520
recreation for the pavilion electrical

2085
03:09:48,399 --> 03:09:54,479
upgrades of $10,000. Uh, parking lot

2086
03:09:51,520 --> 03:09:55,200
paving $65,000 and then additional

2087
03:09:54,479 --> 03:09:57,279
support,

2088
03:09:55,200 --> 03:09:59,200
» Please.

2089
03:09:57,279 --> 03:10:01,359
Pardon? Oh, sorry.

2090
03:09:59,200 --> 03:10:02,240
» Sorry, my hand my hand my hand has been

2091
03:10:01,359 --> 03:10:05,200
up the whole time.

2092
03:10:02,240 --> 03:10:08,319
» Yeah, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yeah,

2093
03:10:05,200 --> 03:10:10,240
» Perhaps this is a a silly question and

2094
03:10:08,319 --> 03:10:12,800
but if anyone has ever like done the

2095
03:10:10,240 --> 03:10:14,880
wiring on their own home before, they

2096
03:10:12,800 --> 03:10:17,359
would know better than to run everything

2097
03:10:14,880 --> 03:10:19,920
through one circuit breaker. If the

2098
03:10:17,359 --> 03:10:22,960
electrical work on the Keton pavilion,

2099
03:10:19,920 --> 03:10:25,120
which I could add cost us far too much

2100
03:10:22,960 --> 03:10:27,520
than it could have, had been done by

2101
03:10:25,120 --> 03:10:30,080
somebody that knew that this wouldn't

2102
03:10:27,520 --> 03:10:33,359
have happened. I would propose that this

2103
03:10:30,080 --> 03:10:35,359
extra $10,000 cost comes out of whoever

2104
03:10:33,359 --> 03:10:39,200
we had do the electrical work in the

2105
03:10:35,359 --> 03:10:41,200
first place because they did it wrong.

2106
03:10:39,200 --> 03:10:44,560
That's a ridiculous reason to need

2107
03:10:41,200 --> 03:10:46,160
$10,000 worth of repairs. We spent what

2108
03:10:44,560 --> 03:10:48,399
$900,000

2109
03:10:46,160 --> 03:10:51,680
on this pavilion and they did the

2110
03:10:48,399 --> 03:10:54,479
electrical work wrong. Does that sound

2111
03:10:51,680 --> 03:10:57,680
sane to anybody else that could possibly

2112
03:10:54,479 --> 03:10:59,520
hear that sentence?

2113
03:10:57,680 --> 03:11:01,200
I guess the only thing that I could say,

2114
03:10:59,520 --> 03:11:03,520
Andrew, is uh they probably weren't

2115
03:11:01,200 --> 03:11:06,800
aware of the usage that was going to be

2116
03:11:03,520 --> 03:11:10,160
used there. Like most of that at the uh

2117
03:11:06,800 --> 03:11:12,800
at the pavilion is basically lights, you

2118
03:11:10,160 --> 03:11:14,640
know. Um and the only time that I think

2119
03:11:12,800 --> 03:11:17,439
we have an issue with blowing breakers

2120
03:11:14,640 --> 03:11:21,840
is when the fair is on and we get uh 10

2121
03:11:17,439 --> 03:11:24,080
or 15 people with cavs giving them a a

2122
03:11:21,840 --> 03:11:25,760
shampoo and a wash and they're drying

2123
03:11:24,080 --> 03:11:27,520
them. So,

2124
03:11:25,760 --> 03:11:30,479
» So presumably whoever was doing the

2125
03:11:27,520 --> 03:11:33,680
electrical work for our fair pavilion

2126
03:11:30,479 --> 03:11:35,439
was unaware of the fair.

2127
03:11:33,680 --> 03:11:38,000
Again, it seems like a ridiculous reason

2128
03:11:35,439 --> 03:11:39,760
to need $10,000 worth of repairs. If I

2129
03:11:38,000 --> 03:11:41,200
had any recommendation, it would be go

2130
03:11:39,760 --> 03:11:43,040
after the people that did the electrical

2131
03:11:41,200 --> 03:11:45,920
work in the first case and make them pay

2132
03:11:43,040 --> 03:11:48,160
for it. They did it wrong.

2133
03:11:45,920 --> 03:11:50,399
» We can take your point into

2134
03:11:48,160 --> 03:11:51,920
consideration and staff can look into

2135
03:11:50,399 --> 03:11:54,479
it. I guess, you know,

2136
03:11:51,920 --> 03:11:57,040
» I I think I what I can say at this point

2137
03:11:54,479 --> 03:11:59,200
is 10,000 we're looking at as a maximum

2138
03:11:57,040 --> 03:12:01,040
upset in this point. We don't want to

2139
03:11:59,200 --> 03:12:03,200
have to come back and ask ask for more

2140
03:12:01,040 --> 03:12:06,560
money. So, I I'll say that's our maximum

2141
03:12:03,200 --> 03:12:08,640
upset on on this uh line item. I don't

2142
03:12:06,560 --> 03:12:11,439
disagree. There was a mistake and I'm

2143
03:12:08,640 --> 03:12:14,160
not going to say that, you know, I don't

2144
03:12:11,439 --> 03:12:16,560
think any of the staff are still here.

2145
03:12:14,160 --> 03:12:18,080
Um but I I think staff should have

2146
03:12:16,560 --> 03:12:19,920
caught something here and and found

2147
03:12:18,080 --> 03:12:22,720
that. But you are correct that it only

2148
03:12:19,920 --> 03:12:24,560
blows when we have these cattle dryers.

2149
03:12:22,720 --> 03:12:27,359
So I I can't say whether the

2150
03:12:24,560 --> 03:12:30,080
electricians knew or didn't know or what

2151
03:12:27,359 --> 03:12:31,439
at that point in time. I don't think the

2152
03:12:30,080 --> 03:12:34,720
juice is going to be worth the squeeze

2153
03:12:31,439 --> 03:12:36,560
to go after the contractor for the

2154
03:12:34,720 --> 03:12:38,720
$10,000. So

2155
03:12:36,560 --> 03:12:39,920
» I don't actually either. I just wanted

2156
03:12:38,720 --> 03:12:41,600
to make it clear that when we're

2157
03:12:39,920 --> 03:12:42,720
approving contracts of this sort, we

2158
03:12:41,600 --> 03:12:44,880
need to be a little more careful with

2159
03:12:42,720 --> 03:12:48,319
the details going forward.

2160
03:12:44,880 --> 03:12:51,040
» Understood. Deputy Mayor. Yeah. through

2161
03:12:48,319 --> 03:12:53,600
you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I seem to recall

2162
03:12:51,040 --> 03:12:58,160
that the design on this structure had

2163
03:12:53,600 --> 03:13:00,319
been changed at least twice. So, um,

2164
03:12:58,160 --> 03:13:03,439
it's no surprise that something like

2165
03:13:00,319 --> 03:13:07,840
this might have happened, um, or has

2166
03:13:03,439 --> 03:13:10,479
happened. And I think to uh CEO Hobson's

2167
03:13:07,840 --> 03:13:13,200
point, the uh parties involved at the

2168
03:13:10,479 --> 03:13:16,240
time are no longer here to answer answer

2169
03:13:13,200 --> 03:13:21,359
for that, whether it's staff or the uh

2170
03:13:16,240 --> 03:13:24,720
designer or the uh contractors. So, um

2171
03:13:21,359 --> 03:13:28,000
unfortunately, we're left with uh having

2172
03:13:24,720 --> 03:13:30,640
to make the corrective actions and and

2173
03:13:28,000 --> 03:13:33,640
move on to uh prevent any further

2174
03:13:30,640 --> 03:13:33,640
problems.

2175
03:13:34,399 --> 03:13:39,760
Okay. Anybody else?

2176
03:13:37,359 --> 03:13:41,520
All right. I did read the motion, but I

2177
03:13:39,760 --> 03:13:43,920
was looking for a mover and secondary

2178
03:13:41,520 --> 03:13:46,399
for these uh expenses. So, moved by

2179
03:13:43,920 --> 03:13:49,760
councelor Duck, seconded by Deputy Mayor

2180
03:13:46,399 --> 03:13:52,880
Showski. Last call for questions. All

2181
03:13:49,760 --> 03:13:55,880
those in favor? Opposed? If any, that is

2182
03:13:52,880 --> 03:13:55,880
carried.

2183
03:13:57,760 --> 03:14:05,359
Uh, next item then is uh Wendy's report

2184
03:14:01,279 --> 03:14:09,800
on surplus surplus uh 225 surplus

2185
03:14:05,359 --> 03:14:09,800
report. So Wendy, the floor is yours.

2186
03:14:11,279 --> 03:14:15,439
» Good evening, Mayor and Council. I

2187
03:14:14,080 --> 03:14:18,160
didn't bring my mouse, so hopefully

2188
03:14:15,439 --> 03:14:20,720
there's no feedback.

2189
03:14:18,160 --> 03:14:24,720
Um, so the before report before you is

2190
03:14:20,720 --> 03:14:27,359
the 2025 surplus report. Um the report

2191
03:14:24,720 --> 03:14:31,800
kind of outlines how staff came up with

2192
03:14:27,359 --> 03:14:31,800
an the surplus of $348,415.

2193
03:14:32,319 --> 03:14:36,960
Um staff are recommending that the

2194
03:14:34,479 --> 03:14:39,760
surplus be allocated to complete

2195
03:14:36,960 --> 03:14:43,200
previously budget development project um

2196
03:14:39,760 --> 03:14:46,640
which would be um two development

2197
03:14:43,200 --> 03:14:48,239
projects. uh reduce boring for the arena

2198
03:14:46,640 --> 03:14:50,239
plant

2199
03:14:48,239 --> 03:14:52,640
um project that's ongoing and then to

2200
03:14:50,239 --> 03:14:55,439
support the park pavilion electrical and

2201
03:14:52,640 --> 03:14:58,880
parking lot works that was just just

2202
03:14:55,439 --> 03:15:02,880
discussed and then hold funds related to

2203
03:14:58,880 --> 03:15:04,880
the OP grant reconciliation

2204
03:15:02,880 --> 03:15:07,920
and so in the resolution it breaks down

2205
03:15:04,880 --> 03:15:11,040
each of those and the amounts requested

2206
03:15:07,920 --> 03:15:12,880
so I'm happy to take any questions

2207
03:15:11,040 --> 03:15:14,800
» Okay thanks Wendy any questions for

2208
03:15:12,880 --> 03:15:16,800
Wendy on what we're doing with the

2209
03:15:14,800 --> 03:15:19,200
surplus.

2210
03:15:16,800 --> 03:15:21,120
Uh, Deputy Mayor again

2211
03:15:19,200 --> 03:15:24,239
» Through you your worship. Um, thanks

2212
03:15:21,120 --> 03:15:26,160
Wendy for the report on the $100,000

2213
03:15:24,239 --> 03:15:28,239
that's being applied towards development

2214
03:15:26,160 --> 03:15:31,200
projects and transferred to the reserve

2215
03:15:28,239 --> 03:15:34,000
for transportation roads. Can you

2216
03:15:31,200 --> 03:15:37,760
provide a bit more detail about where

2217
03:15:34,000 --> 03:15:40,560
which specific projects are being uh tab

2218
03:15:37,760 --> 03:15:42,399
for that money and why?

2219
03:15:40,560 --> 03:15:46,080
» It's cautionary,

2220
03:15:42,399 --> 03:15:47,200
right? Yeah. Um, so if I can I just I

2221
03:15:46,080 --> 03:15:48,720
want to be very clear because I think

2222
03:15:47,200 --> 03:15:50,160
this is a this is a unique thing in

2223
03:15:48,720 --> 03:15:52,560
Wester and I think this is a good thing

2224
03:15:50,160 --> 03:15:54,720
and it's an economic development thing.

2225
03:15:52,560 --> 03:15:56,319
So in the municipality of West Perth

2226
03:15:54,720 --> 03:15:58,080
it's been standard practice that when a

2227
03:15:56,319 --> 03:16:01,520
subdivision comes in and there's a

2228
03:15:58,080 --> 03:16:04,479
there's a road that would potentially be

2229
03:16:01,520 --> 03:16:07,680
shared with a adjacent developer in the

2230
03:16:04,479 --> 03:16:12,080
future. Um, West the developer at that

2231
03:16:07,680 --> 03:16:16,560
time will pay for the road to go in.

2232
03:16:12,080 --> 03:16:19,120
West Perth will pay the portion

2233
03:16:16,560 --> 03:16:21,840
that the adjacent developer would be on

2234
03:16:19,120 --> 03:16:24,880
the hook to pay. And then that's where

2235
03:16:21,840 --> 03:16:27,200
we implement one foot reserves and then

2236
03:16:24,880 --> 03:16:29,040
we don't remove those one foot reserves

2237
03:16:27,200 --> 03:16:31,680
until that other developer comes in,

2238
03:16:29,040 --> 03:16:33,840
develops that land, and then pays us

2239
03:16:31,680 --> 03:16:36,560
whatever that the money is money is

2240
03:16:33,840 --> 03:16:38,319
owing. And again, that's a very unique

2241
03:16:36,560 --> 03:16:39,680
thing to West Perth. It's a good thing

2242
03:16:38,319 --> 03:16:41,040
and I think it certainly drives

2243
03:16:39,680 --> 03:16:42,319
development and we when we get

2244
03:16:41,040 --> 03:16:46,720
developers in here from Kitchener

2245
03:16:42,319 --> 03:16:48,080
Waterlue, they absolutely love this. Um

2246
03:16:46,720 --> 03:16:49,600
there are certainly some costs and

2247
03:16:48,080 --> 03:16:51,520
there's some things that I think as we

2248
03:16:49,600 --> 03:16:54,000
get our legs under us a little bit more

2249
03:16:51,520 --> 03:16:55,840
that we're going to be looking to change

2250
03:16:54,000 --> 03:16:57,279
um on this structure, but I just want to

2251
03:16:55,840 --> 03:16:58,800
be clear that that's how this works so

2252
03:16:57,279 --> 03:17:01,600
everyone understands because this is c

2253
03:16:58,800 --> 03:17:04,000
this is m our cash dollars uh cash that

2254
03:17:01,600 --> 03:17:06,640
goes into this. So this is residual of

2255
03:17:04,000 --> 03:17:08,880
some projects. Um you know there'll be

2256
03:17:06,640 --> 03:17:10,239
some some wimple cost sharing. Uh

2257
03:17:08,880 --> 03:17:12,800
basically any of the roads where you're

2258
03:17:10,239 --> 03:17:15,200
seeing final lift has not been done

2259
03:17:12,800 --> 03:17:18,880
across some of our subdivisions here and

2260
03:17:15,200 --> 03:17:21,760
putting in a reserve um for those. So, I

2261
03:17:18,880 --> 03:17:25,120
know Whimple will be an example

2262
03:17:21,760 --> 03:17:28,479
um north of the highway there. And then

2263
03:17:25,120 --> 03:17:31,479
I think we've got um

2264
03:17:28,479 --> 03:17:31,479
Henry.

2265
03:17:31,920 --> 03:17:36,040
I think it's in Henry. Sorry.

2266
03:17:37,120 --> 03:17:41,359
And then, sorry, I can't uh

2267
03:17:39,359 --> 03:17:43,279
» I can't pull it up right now, but that's

2268
03:17:41,359 --> 03:17:45,680
but that's what it is. Yes. Thank you.

2269
03:17:43,279 --> 03:17:47,840
Uh there'll be there'll be a Clayton uh

2270
03:17:45,680 --> 03:17:48,239
Clayton one as well.

2271
03:17:47,840 --> 03:17:51,479
Okay.

2272
03:17:48,239 --> 03:17:51,479
» Thank you,

2273
03:17:53,040 --> 03:17:57,120
» Mayor McKenzie.

2274
03:17:53,920 --> 03:18:00,239
» Yeah. So, I I'd prefer that uh with

2275
03:17:57,120 --> 03:18:03,920
already over $6 million in in that

2276
03:18:00,239 --> 03:18:06,880
reserve that uh that uh uh come forward

2277
03:18:03,920 --> 03:18:08,960
in the budget process that when we are

2278
03:18:06,880 --> 03:18:11,200
budgeting for those needs for those

2279
03:18:08,960 --> 03:18:13,439
reserves that we that is clearly

2280
03:18:11,200 --> 03:18:15,439
outlined uh that rather we would use

2281
03:18:13,439 --> 03:18:18,479
that $100,000 to reduce the debt.

2282
03:18:15,439 --> 03:18:21,680
similar to the uh the the next line item

2283
03:18:18,479 --> 03:18:24,399
uh on the Arena uh ice plant project

2284
03:18:21,680 --> 03:18:26,319
that uh that that goes to reducing debt.

2285
03:18:24,399 --> 03:18:30,560
And the same thing with the uh the

2286
03:18:26,319 --> 03:18:34,160
$60,000 um in in tax stabilization. Let

2287
03:18:30,560 --> 03:18:38,160
let's uh I if if there was a surplus

2288
03:18:34,160 --> 03:18:40,399
um for for uh this previous year uh let

2289
03:18:38,160 --> 03:18:44,080
let's use it to reduce these debt

2290
03:18:40,399 --> 03:18:46,479
payments that we have um as opposed to

2291
03:18:44,080 --> 03:18:48,560
again putting it into reserves for uh

2292
03:18:46,479 --> 03:18:50,720
for future use. If we if we if we can

2293
03:18:48,560 --> 03:18:55,080
reduce the debt let's uh let's use it

2294
03:18:50,720 --> 03:18:55,080
for uh that purpose instead.

2295
03:18:55,520 --> 03:19:00,160
» Okay.

2296
03:18:57,040 --> 03:19:01,760
Go ahead. Um so for the uh two

2297
03:19:00,160 --> 03:19:04,960
development projects they were on the

2298
03:19:01,760 --> 03:19:07,600
budget in 2025 and they should have been

2299
03:19:04,960 --> 03:19:10,239
identified as a carry forward project um

2300
03:19:07,600 --> 03:19:12,399
just through the final process. That's

2301
03:19:10,239 --> 03:19:14,160
when it got picked up and so that's why

2302
03:19:12,399 --> 03:19:17,840
you're seeing it here instead of a carry

2303
03:19:14,160 --> 03:19:21,359
forward project um being contributed to

2304
03:19:17,840 --> 03:19:22,800
the reserves. And the op one um it's

2305
03:19:21,359 --> 03:19:25,439
pretty much a guarantee we're going to

2306
03:19:22,800 --> 03:19:28,239
have to pay that back. And so that's

2307
03:19:25,439 --> 03:19:30,960
just a timing between uh the province's

2308
03:19:28,239 --> 03:19:33,960
year end and our year end where that got

2309
03:19:30,960 --> 03:19:33,960
captured.

2310
03:19:36,000 --> 03:19:42,000
» Okay. Any any other questions, comments?

2311
03:19:39,840 --> 03:19:44,800
No. Okay. We have a fairly lengthy

2312
03:19:42,000 --> 03:19:47,520
recommendation here that Miss Bal West

2313
03:19:44,800 --> 03:19:50,720
Perth approve the allocation of the 200

2314
03:19:47,520 --> 03:19:53,520
2025 surplus revenue in the amount of

2315
03:19:50,720 --> 03:19:56,080
$348,415

2316
03:19:53,520 --> 03:19:57,920
as follows. 100,000 to be applied

2317
03:19:56,080 --> 03:19:59,520
towards development projects and

2318
03:19:57,920 --> 03:20:04,239
transferred to the reserve for

2319
03:19:59,520 --> 03:20:06,399
transportation roads. 108,415

2320
03:20:04,239 --> 03:20:08,960
be applied towards the Arena ice plant

2321
03:20:06,399 --> 03:20:11,120
project to reduce the amount of external

2322
03:20:08,960 --> 03:20:14,640
financing required and transferred to

2323
03:20:11,120 --> 03:20:17,120
the reserve for recreation and parks and

2324
03:20:14,640 --> 03:20:19,520
80,000 be applied towards the electrical

2325
03:20:17,120 --> 03:20:21,040
and egg society projects and be

2326
03:20:19,520 --> 03:20:23,600
transferred to the reserve for

2327
03:20:21,040 --> 03:20:26,960
recreation and parks and the remaining

2328
03:20:23,600 --> 03:20:28,960
60,000 be temporarily retained within

2329
03:20:26,960 --> 03:20:31,200
the reserve for tax stabilization

2330
03:20:28,960 --> 03:20:34,560
pending final reconciliation.

2331
03:20:31,200 --> 03:20:37,120
of the additional OP funding received in

2332
03:20:34,560 --> 03:20:39,200
2025.

2333
03:20:37,120 --> 03:20:42,800
We have a mover and secondary for that.

2334
03:20:39,200 --> 03:20:45,359
Councelor Rose and Councelor Duck. Uh

2335
03:20:42,800 --> 03:20:49,120
last call for questions. All those in

2336
03:20:45,359 --> 03:20:50,960
favor posed, if any. That's carried. Uh

2337
03:20:49,120 --> 03:20:53,760
a couple items under correspondence

2338
03:20:50,960 --> 03:20:55,439
there. Thanks, Wendy. Uh from Mland

2339
03:20:53,760 --> 03:20:57,680
Conservation Authority and then the

2340
03:20:55,439 --> 03:21:00,560
Western Lake Area Regional Conservation

2341
03:20:57,680 --> 03:21:02,239
Authority. If there's no questions, the

2342
03:21:00,560 --> 03:21:04,720
recommendation is that the municipality

2343
03:21:02,239 --> 03:21:05,680
of West Perth accept correspondence as

2344
03:21:04,720 --> 03:21:06,960
information.

2345
03:21:05,680 --> 03:21:09,920
» There is a question. Pardon?

2346
03:21:06,960 --> 03:21:11,359
» Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Andrew. You need

2347
03:21:09,920 --> 03:21:13,040
your hand.

2348
03:21:11,359 --> 03:21:14,160
» Well, I you know what? I I've gotten

2349
03:21:13,040 --> 03:21:15,359
tired of using the hand. It doesn't

2350
03:21:14,160 --> 03:21:15,920
work. So, I'm just going to talk from

2351
03:21:15,359 --> 03:21:16,960
now on.

2352
03:21:15,920 --> 03:21:19,279
» That's fine.

2353
03:21:16,960 --> 03:21:21,279
» Yeah. Uh, we got that letter from the

2354
03:21:19,279 --> 03:21:22,880
wards earlier this week, and that was

2355
03:21:21,279 --> 03:21:26,000
intended to be included in this week's

2356
03:21:22,880 --> 03:21:26,640
agenda. I haven't seen it, and that

2357
03:21:26,000 --> 03:21:28,239
should be

2358
03:21:26,640 --> 03:21:30,160
» That letter. We've talked about the

2359
03:21:28,239 --> 03:21:32,960
letter from wards and that was a closed

2360
03:21:30,160 --> 03:21:36,080
session matter and the letter was not

2361
03:21:32,960 --> 03:21:38,479
addressed to it was addressed to members

2362
03:21:36,080 --> 03:21:40,960
of council.

2363
03:21:38,479 --> 03:21:42,880
» Is there any chance I can find out the

2364
03:21:40,960 --> 03:21:46,000
details of that discussion seeing as I

2365
03:21:42,880 --> 03:21:48,399
couldn't fi attend the closed session?

2366
03:21:46,000 --> 03:21:51,840
» Um

2367
03:21:48,399 --> 03:21:53,680
I'm sure maybe James or Dan can talk to

2368
03:21:51,840 --> 03:21:56,800
you about the closed session.

2369
03:21:53,680 --> 03:21:58,720
» Okay. Thank you very much. I I I do uh I

2370
03:21:56,800 --> 03:22:00,479
that letters like that concern me, so

2371
03:21:58,720 --> 03:22:01,760
I'm looking to find out more information

2372
03:22:00,479 --> 03:22:02,720
about it. Thank you very much. Sorry for

2373
03:22:01,760 --> 03:22:08,279
the interruption.

2374
03:22:02,720 --> 03:22:08,279
» Okay. No. Well, that's fine. Um

2375
03:22:10,399 --> 03:22:14,640
» I need a mover and second here. Did I

2376
03:22:12,000 --> 03:22:17,200
not get I had Ryan, didn't I?

2377
03:22:14,640 --> 03:22:20,960
» Okay. Mover and second. I'll get uh I'll

2378
03:22:17,200 --> 03:22:23,520
get councelor O'Donnell and and uh and

2379
03:22:20,960 --> 03:22:26,000
councelor Foster uh to deal with the

2380
03:22:23,520 --> 03:22:29,840
correspondence. All those in favor?

2381
03:22:26,000 --> 03:22:33,040
Opposed? If any, that's carried. Um,

2382
03:22:29,840 --> 03:22:36,160
Fullerton Fastball Club Heron County

2383
03:22:33,040 --> 03:22:38,000
Fastball League year-end tournament. The

2384
03:22:36,160 --> 03:22:39,920
recommendation, this is a yearly one

2385
03:22:38,000 --> 03:22:41,760
that we get. The recommendation is that

2386
03:22:39,920 --> 03:22:44,239
the Miss Pal West Perth declare the

2387
03:22:41,760 --> 03:22:46,000
Hiron County Fastball League year-end

2388
03:22:44,239 --> 03:22:49,120
tournament held by Fullerton A's

2389
03:22:46,000 --> 03:22:51,600
fastball club. Catter Park on or at

2390
03:22:49,120 --> 03:22:54,560
Catter Park on September the 11th to the

2391
03:22:51,600 --> 03:22:56,479
13th be of municipal significance and

2392
03:22:54,560 --> 03:22:59,200
advise the Alcohol and Gaming Commission

2393
03:22:56,479 --> 03:23:01,439
of Ontario that it has no objection to

2394
03:22:59,200 --> 03:23:04,960
taking place. Mover and secondary

2395
03:23:01,439 --> 03:23:08,399
councelor Harold Councelor Chessel um

2396
03:23:04,960 --> 03:23:11,120
questions all those in favor posed if

2397
03:23:08,399 --> 03:23:14,000
any that's carried. And then a similar

2398
03:23:11,120 --> 03:23:18,840
letter from the Mitchell Hawks. Uh and

2399
03:23:14,000 --> 03:23:18,840
uh yeah, we had two conflicts here.

2400
03:23:23,760 --> 03:23:28,640
recommendation uh is that uh the council

2401
03:23:26,960 --> 03:23:30,560
of municipality of West Perth declare

2402
03:23:28,640 --> 03:23:34,080
the Mitchell Hogar and slow pitch

2403
03:23:30,560 --> 03:23:36,800
tournament held at Kerson Park on August

2404
03:23:34,080 --> 03:23:39,200
the 28th to the 30th to be of municipal

2405
03:23:36,800 --> 03:23:41,040
significance and advise the Alcohol and

2406
03:23:39,200 --> 03:23:43,600
Gaming Commission of Ontario that it has

2407
03:23:41,040 --> 03:23:46,080
no objection to it taking place. Mover

2408
03:23:43,600 --> 03:23:49,520
and second for that. Council Chessel,

2409
03:23:46,080 --> 03:23:51,920
Councelor Rose, any questions? All those

2410
03:23:49,520 --> 03:23:54,920
in favor? Opposed? If any that is

2411
03:23:51,920 --> 03:23:54,920
carried

2412
03:23:55,040 --> 03:24:04,000
um council reports uh there's a number

2413
03:23:58,560 --> 03:24:07,120
of bylaws here um we have uh nine I

2414
03:24:04,000 --> 03:24:08,640
guess nine nine bylaws

2415
03:24:07,120 --> 03:24:10,000
» 52

2416
03:24:08,640 --> 03:24:12,479
for the morel tree.

2417
03:24:10,000 --> 03:24:14,960
» Oh that's right we take that one out.

2418
03:24:12,479 --> 03:24:18,920
Yeah. Okay.

2419
03:24:14,960 --> 03:24:18,920
So, um

2420
03:24:19,279 --> 03:24:22,920
re um

2421
03:24:23,040 --> 03:24:27,120
yeah, I just needed to flip over to the

2422
03:24:24,960 --> 03:24:28,479
other page here. So, yeah. Okay. So, the

2423
03:24:27,120 --> 03:24:30,479
recommendation is the council

2424
03:24:28,479 --> 03:24:34,960
municipality of West Perth give first

2425
03:24:30,479 --> 03:24:36,880
and second reading to bylaw 48

2426
03:24:34,960 --> 03:24:40,720
um

2427
03:24:36,880 --> 03:24:43,840
through to 55 with the exception of 52.

2428
03:24:40,720 --> 03:24:47,600
Does that sound okay? [laughter]

2429
03:24:43,840 --> 03:24:50,080
and zoning bylaw 327

2430
03:24:47,600 --> 03:24:52,640
um on this 10th day of August. So, it's

2431
03:24:50,080 --> 03:24:55,359
everything uh all the bylaws except for

2432
03:24:52,640 --> 03:24:56,960
bylaw 52 because that one was squashed.

2433
03:24:55,359 --> 03:24:58,640
So, do we have a mover in second of your

2434
03:24:56,960 --> 03:25:02,640
first and second reading? Councelor

2435
03:24:58,640 --> 03:25:05,680
Rose, um councelor Foster, all those in

2436
03:25:02,640 --> 03:25:07,840
favor posed. If any that's carried and

2437
03:25:05,680 --> 03:25:10,399
then uh the final recommendation is that

2438
03:25:07,840 --> 03:25:13,359
council give third and final reading to

2439
03:25:10,399 --> 03:25:17,600
bylaw 48 through to 55 with the

2440
03:25:13,359 --> 03:25:19,840
exception of 52 and zoning bylaw 327

2441
03:25:17,600 --> 03:25:21,680
this 10th and

2442
03:25:19,840 --> 03:25:26,800
» 51 as well is just a

2443
03:25:21,680 --> 03:25:29,920
» Oh and okay so 5 exempt 51 and 52

2444
03:25:26,800 --> 03:25:34,479
um we got that all clear moved by

2445
03:25:29,920 --> 03:25:36,800
councelor Rose uh seconded by Uh,

2446
03:25:34,479 --> 03:25:39,120
Councelor Harold.

2447
03:25:36,800 --> 03:25:42,800
All those in favor? Opposed? If any,

2448
03:25:39,120 --> 03:25:45,040
that's carried. Um, coming events. I'm

2449
03:25:42,800 --> 03:25:47,040
not going to go through them all because

2450
03:25:45,040 --> 03:25:48,399
there's a number of it's getting late

2451
03:25:47,040 --> 03:25:50,399
and there's a number of items here.

2452
03:25:48,399 --> 03:25:53,760
Quite a few. I do want to mention, I

2453
03:25:50,399 --> 03:25:56,960
guess August the 13th, which is uh uh

2454
03:25:53,760 --> 03:25:59,279
Wednesday, is the Crody Ballpark uh

2455
03:25:56,960 --> 03:26:02,960
chicken barbecue, and that's a major

2456
03:25:59,279 --> 03:26:05,359
fundraising for them out there. Um, I do

2457
03:26:02,960 --> 03:26:07,439
want to mention about music in the park.

2458
03:26:05,359 --> 03:26:09,520
Uh, and this one is going to be at the

2459
03:26:07,439 --> 03:26:12,399
Cerson Park again as opposed to the

2460
03:26:09,520 --> 03:26:15,840
Lions Park. Uh, the other one I think

2461
03:26:12,399 --> 03:26:18,960
that I want to mention is, uh, the

2462
03:26:15,840 --> 03:26:21,200
agricultural fair, the 4th to the 6th,

2463
03:26:18,960 --> 03:26:24,080
and I know Lindsay has contacted you

2464
03:26:21,200 --> 03:26:26,720
about working the booth, uh, in the

2465
03:26:24,080 --> 03:26:28,560
arena, and I'll let her look after that.

2466
03:26:26,720 --> 03:26:30,720
The question that I have, is there

2467
03:26:28,560 --> 03:26:33,120
interest to put anything in the parade?

2468
03:26:30,720 --> 03:26:35,359
Sometimes we do. I think we have the

2469
03:26:33,120 --> 03:26:37,920
last four years. We've always had a

2470
03:26:35,359 --> 03:26:42,840
float in there. Uh, is there interest to

2471
03:26:37,920 --> 03:26:42,840
do that again this year or No.

2472
03:26:45,439 --> 03:26:48,800
Um,

2473
03:26:46,960 --> 03:26:53,239
gee, I did know.

2474
03:26:48,800 --> 03:26:53,239
» Yeah. Falling into fun. Yeah.

2475
03:26:54,640 --> 03:26:58,160
This is the last meeting before the fair

2476
03:26:56,479 --> 03:27:00,319
or I wouldn't I wouldn't have mentioned

2477
03:26:58,160 --> 03:27:03,439
it. So, we we need to get some kind of

2478
03:27:00,319 --> 03:27:06,080
direction. Phil's saying,

2479
03:27:03,439 --> 03:27:08,399
"Oh, Andrew."

2480
03:27:06,080 --> 03:27:10,640
» I would love that.

2481
03:27:08,399 --> 03:27:12,319
» You're going to fall into fun.

2482
03:27:10,640 --> 03:27:13,680
» No, I mean having something in the in

2483
03:27:12,319 --> 03:27:15,040
the parade. I don't know about falling

2484
03:27:13,680 --> 03:27:16,160
into fun. I don't like falling over.

2485
03:27:15,040 --> 03:27:18,160
That hurts.

2486
03:27:16,160 --> 03:27:20,800
» But a float in the parade definitely.

2487
03:27:18,160 --> 03:27:24,239
That representing us in the community,

2488
03:27:20,800 --> 03:27:25,520
letting people see us do anything is uh

2489
03:27:24,239 --> 03:27:30,319
important.

2490
03:27:25,520 --> 03:27:32,720
» Okay. Um, so, um,

2491
03:27:30,319 --> 03:27:34,720
again, I I need a consensus here. Uh,

2492
03:27:32,720 --> 03:27:36,880
I've got some that is saying, "No, let's

2493
03:27:34,720 --> 03:27:40,479
let's can it." And I've got one definite

2494
03:27:36,880 --> 03:27:43,439
that we should do it.

2495
03:27:40,479 --> 03:27:45,760
Okay. Uh, who wants to kind of oversee

2496
03:27:43,439 --> 03:27:48,800
it? Um,

2497
03:27:45,760 --> 03:27:52,479
like we got to line up a truck or a

2498
03:27:48,800 --> 03:27:55,479
tractor and a wagon. Um,

2499
03:27:52,479 --> 03:27:55,479
right.

2500
03:27:55,680 --> 03:28:00,479
council wants to do and stuff.

2501
03:27:58,080 --> 03:28:02,160
» Well, staff can can help, but you know,

2502
03:28:00,479 --> 03:28:04,479
it it takes a little bit of time to

2503
03:28:02,160 --> 03:28:05,680
decorate it up. Uh I just, you know, I'm

2504
03:28:04,479 --> 03:28:07,200
just looking for somebody that maybe

2505
03:28:05,680 --> 03:28:10,880
wants to head it. I I don't mind

2506
03:28:07,200 --> 03:28:12,560
helping, but um you know, we need

2507
03:28:10,880 --> 03:28:15,279
somebody responsible to kind of figure

2508
03:28:12,560 --> 03:28:18,279
out what we're what we want to do. And

2509
03:28:15,279 --> 03:28:18,279
uh

2510
03:28:18,479 --> 03:28:21,920
» Andrew,

2511
03:28:19,439 --> 03:28:23,920
» Andrew's name. Well, certainly. Uh, you

2512
03:28:21,920 --> 03:28:26,960
know, usually we get together the day

2513
03:28:23,920 --> 03:28:30,080
before at the at the township or at the

2514
03:28:26,960 --> 03:28:32,399
municipal operations place and get

2515
03:28:30,080 --> 03:28:34,239
something together. So,

2516
03:28:32,399 --> 03:28:35,840
» Oh, I don't care. I I have a trailer

2517
03:28:34,239 --> 03:28:37,840
that we can pull behind the truck. I

2518
03:28:35,840 --> 03:28:38,880
don't mind.

2519
03:28:37,840 --> 03:28:39,600
» Oh, okay.

2520
03:28:38,880 --> 03:28:41,760
» Okay.

2521
03:28:39,600 --> 03:28:44,080
» I will volunteer to do as much as I

2522
03:28:41,760 --> 03:28:46,080
possibly can and my kids will help.

2523
03:28:44,080 --> 03:28:48,000
» Very good. Okay. So, we'll leave it with

2524
03:28:46,080 --> 03:28:51,760
with Nicholas and Andrew. How's that

2525
03:28:48,000 --> 03:28:54,399
sound? Okay. Um then our our our next

2526
03:28:51,760 --> 03:28:59,359
meeting uh here won't be till September

2527
03:28:54,399 --> 03:29:01,680
the 8th. So that's um notice of motion

2528
03:28:59,359 --> 03:29:02,880
and uh deputy mayor has a notice of

2529
03:29:01,680 --> 03:29:05,120
motion.

2530
03:29:02,880 --> 03:29:08,319
» Thank you. Um your worship through you

2531
03:29:05,120 --> 03:29:10,720
to council colleagues. Um in advance of

2532
03:29:08,319 --> 03:29:13,520
the September 8th, 2026 regular meeting

2533
03:29:10,720 --> 03:29:15,120
of West Perth Council, I'm requesting to

2534
03:29:13,520 --> 03:29:18,080
submit a notice of motion that would

2535
03:29:15,120 --> 03:29:21,120
read as follows. Following the July 13,

2536
03:29:18,080 --> 03:29:23,040
2026 BIA delegation that was made before

2537
03:29:21,120 --> 03:29:26,239
council requesting permanent closure of

2538
03:29:23,040 --> 03:29:28,160
Poppy Lane on a year-round basis and

2539
03:29:26,239 --> 03:29:30,319
following the posting of the BIA

2540
03:29:28,160 --> 03:29:32,880
statement of operations as part of the

2541
03:29:30,319 --> 03:29:35,520
audit report to West Perth Council

2542
03:29:32,880 --> 03:29:39,200
prepared by Seabach and Company for the

2543
03:29:35,520 --> 03:29:41,279
year ended December 31st, 2025.

2544
03:29:39,200 --> 03:29:44,960
that council move to request that the

2545
03:29:41,279 --> 03:29:47,680
BIA provide a budget report to council

2546
03:29:44,960 --> 03:29:50,319
for information, sharing with council

2547
03:29:47,680 --> 03:29:52,800
the BIA financial plan for the yearround

2548
03:29:50,319 --> 03:29:56,080
activities they propose to conduct at

2549
03:29:52,800 --> 03:29:58,479
Poppy Lane. The BIA financial plan will

2550
03:29:56,080 --> 03:30:01,520
include a capital spending budget that

2551
03:29:58,479 --> 03:30:03,920
the BIA intends to follow for capital

2552
03:30:01,520 --> 03:30:06,319
improvements such as outdoor furniture,

2553
03:30:03,920 --> 03:30:09,359
lighting, landscaping, decorations, and

2554
03:30:06,319 --> 03:30:11,439
decor. The BIA financial plan should

2555
03:30:09,359 --> 03:30:15,279
also include an operational spending

2556
03:30:11,439 --> 03:30:18,080
budget on anticipated operational costs

2557
03:30:15,279 --> 03:30:20,239
such as snow removal, portable public

2558
03:30:18,080 --> 03:30:23,359
washroom facilities, and all other

2559
03:30:20,239 --> 03:30:25,680
things that the BIA will deem necessary

2560
03:30:23,359 --> 03:30:27,840
to hold their events at Poppy Lane on a

2561
03:30:25,680 --> 03:30:30,319
year- round basis.

2562
03:30:27,840 --> 03:30:33,279
This financial plan should also identify

2563
03:30:30,319 --> 03:30:36,960
the revenue sources and any donation

2564
03:30:33,279 --> 03:30:39,760
program that the BIA intends to utilize

2565
03:30:36,960 --> 03:30:41,840
to finance the aforementioned with the

2566
03:30:39,760 --> 03:30:43,359
appropriate dollar amounts to be raised

2567
03:30:41,840 --> 03:30:45,520
accordingly

2568
03:30:43,359 --> 03:30:47,840
and further that this financial plan be

2569
03:30:45,520 --> 03:30:50,640
submitted to West Perth Council for

2570
03:30:47,840 --> 03:30:52,560
their information no later than the

2571
03:30:50,640 --> 03:30:56,680
regular council meeting schedule for

2572
03:30:52,560 --> 03:30:56,680
October 5th, 2026.

2573
03:30:59,359 --> 03:31:02,359
Okay.

2574
03:31:02,800 --> 03:31:06,000
» For the next meeting.

2575
03:31:03,600 --> 03:31:06,479
» Yes. It's Oh, for the next meeting.

2576
03:31:06,000 --> 03:31:08,319
» Yes.

2577
03:31:06,479 --> 03:31:10,960
» Oh, yeah. September

2578
03:31:08,319 --> 03:31:14,080
» On Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But but

2579
03:31:10,960 --> 03:31:15,840
not dealt with until October. Right.

2580
03:31:14,080 --> 03:31:17,439
» Well, it's a notice of motion first of

2581
03:31:15,840 --> 03:31:18,720
discussion at that that meeting.

2582
03:31:17,439 --> 03:31:20,640
» Correct. There'll only be discussion at

2583
03:31:18,720 --> 03:31:22,720
the September 8th meeting and council

2584
03:31:20,640 --> 03:31:24,800
will be asked to vote on the motion and

2585
03:31:22,720 --> 03:31:26,960
the motion asks for a report to come

2586
03:31:24,800 --> 03:31:28,880
back to the October meeting. So should

2587
03:31:26,960 --> 03:31:30,720
council vote in favor of that

2588
03:31:28,880 --> 03:31:32,239
» Would be a timeline for October to

2589
03:31:30,720 --> 03:31:34,560
report back.

2590
03:31:32,239 --> 03:31:36,560
» Question from councelor Foster

2591
03:31:34,560 --> 03:31:39,720
» That timeline doesn't have a BIA meeting

2592
03:31:36,560 --> 03:31:39,720
in it

2593
03:31:39,840 --> 03:31:44,479
for them to respond between the two.

2594
03:31:41,840 --> 03:31:47,479
They don't have a octo a uh September

2595
03:31:44,479 --> 03:31:47,479
meeting.

2596
03:31:48,560 --> 03:31:52,640
Then if they if the BIA needs to have a

2597
03:31:51,120 --> 03:31:54,399
meeting, then they'll have to organize a

2598
03:31:52,640 --> 03:31:56,880
meeting.

2599
03:31:54,399 --> 03:32:01,920
I I I understand. I I'm fully cognizant

2600
03:31:56,880 --> 03:32:06,479
that their meeting is on the 7th. But um

2601
03:32:01,920 --> 03:32:09,040
I would like to if I I well if council

2602
03:32:06,479 --> 03:32:11,840
so chooses, then that's the timeline

2603
03:32:09,040 --> 03:32:13,600
I've set out. I think in the motion

2604
03:32:11,840 --> 03:32:15,200
» That's an item that we can discuss at

2605
03:32:13,600 --> 03:32:17,760
the next meeting when it comes up, you

2606
03:32:15,200 --> 03:32:20,160
know, and if we have to tweak it a

2607
03:32:17,760 --> 03:32:22,720
little bit. We do have two meetings a

2608
03:32:20,160 --> 03:32:24,239
month from from then on. So, uh if it

2609
03:32:22,720 --> 03:32:26,399
has to be tweaked a little bit to

2610
03:32:24,239 --> 03:32:29,920
accommodate their schedule, I think uh

2611
03:32:26,399 --> 03:32:31,920
we can probably do that. Um any other

2612
03:32:29,920 --> 03:32:33,840
business?

2613
03:32:31,920 --> 03:32:38,080
Okay. Uh, next one then is a

2614
03:32:33,840 --> 03:32:39,920
confirmatory bylaw and bylaw number 56

2615
03:32:38,080 --> 03:32:41,359
being a bylaw to confirm the proceedings

2616
03:32:39,920 --> 03:32:43,279
of the council of the corporation

2617
03:32:41,359 --> 03:32:46,880
municipality west be read a first and

2618
03:32:43,279 --> 03:32:49,680
second time this 10th day of August 2026

2619
03:32:46,880 --> 03:32:53,439
mover and seconder for that please

2620
03:32:49,680 --> 03:32:55,680
um councelor Rose counselor Foster all

2621
03:32:53,439 --> 03:33:00,720
those in favor opposed if any that's

2622
03:32:55,680 --> 03:33:03,920
carried and then um bylaw 56 being read

2623
03:33:00,720 --> 03:33:05,840
a third time and finally past.

2624
03:33:03,920 --> 03:33:08,160
Oh, yeah. Andrew, you you don't have

2625
03:33:05,840 --> 03:33:10,160
your hand up, but I'll take it as a Oh,

2626
03:33:08,160 --> 03:33:12,080
he had his hand up. Okay. All right.

2627
03:33:10,160 --> 03:33:15,520
Second or moved by Andrew. Do we have a

2628
03:33:12,080 --> 03:33:17,840
seconder? Um, Deputy Mayor Tranowski.

2629
03:33:15,520 --> 03:33:20,560
All those in favor? Opposed? If any,

2630
03:33:17,840 --> 03:33:22,960
that's carried. And then the last one, a

2631
03:33:20,560 --> 03:33:27,040
motion that West Perth Council will

2632
03:33:22,960 --> 03:33:28,880
adjourn at uh 10:31.

2633
03:33:27,040 --> 03:33:32,000
Moved by Councelor Harold, second by

2634
03:33:28,880 --> 03:33:34,399
Councelor O'Donnell. All those in favor?

2635
03:33:32,000 --> 03:33:37,520
Opposed? It's carried. Um, thank you for

2636
03:33:34,399 --> 03:33:37,520
your cooperation tonight.