1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,860 This meeting is being recorded and summarized. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,240 All right, good morning, everyone. I am glad to play with the saying is chair of the budget and appropriations committee. 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:19,520 This is the first of the double letter today. So we'll see you as a leader at one o'clock. 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,460 But we start out today all this starting first. It's in 13am. 5 00:00:23,460 --> 00:00:30,620 hand. I will start us out by facilitating a local vote. I am present obviously majority of all 6 00:00:30,620 --> 00:00:34,780 students present. Let's say they're not enough. Here. Let's say the fears. 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,620 That's it. I'm going to invite you to be all present majority of Williams. 8 00:00:38,820 --> 00:00:40,260 Here. Let's say the one you have. 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,420 And chairman got him. 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,220 Right. We are open at 1014 a. 11 00:00:46,220 --> 00:00:47,560 I'll go to the next meeting. 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,700 I'll open. 13 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:51,200 Yes. 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,700 In the infrastructure and housing, um, 15 00:00:54,180 --> 00:00:55,580 to need here. 16 00:00:56,220 --> 00:00:57,300 Nice chair, 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,380 here's present. 18 00:00:59,180 --> 00:00:59,600 Let's see. 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:00,760 Let's see. 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Let's see. 21 00:01:02,260 --> 00:01:02,800 Let's see. 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,320 First. 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:04,680 Thank you. 24 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:06,100 We are open at 1014. 25 00:01:07,620 --> 00:01:07,940 Good. 26 00:01:09,180 --> 00:01:09,440 I mean. 27 00:01:09,780 --> 00:01:10,580 Excuse me. 28 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:12,340 Okay. 29 00:01:12,340 --> 00:01:15,100 in social 30 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:19,410 services, specifically to the right. 31 00:01:19,590 --> 00:01:21,550 So it's time to go far. 32 00:01:22,170 --> 00:01:24,070 Um, release not here. 33 00:01:24,670 --> 00:01:25,950 Uh, in a separate browser. 34 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:28,530 Um, and the English. 35 00:01:29,110 --> 00:01:29,130 Yeah. 36 00:01:29,410 --> 00:01:31,170 We'll send it in the comments. 37 00:01:31,570 --> 00:01:32,330 We'll send a picture. 38 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:33,130 Yeah. 39 00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:33,990 Jammer. 40 00:01:37,110 --> 00:01:37,630 Yeah. 41 00:01:38,010 --> 00:01:38,390 I'll send it. 42 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:39,190 I'll send it to the community. 43 00:01:39,450 --> 00:01:39,990 All right. 44 00:01:40,070 --> 00:01:40,590 Thank you. 45 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:46,950 So, uh, the first trucks of items will be 3, 1, 3, 2, 3, 46 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:52,240 three and three before we'll be taking those together before need relevant committees. And we have 47 00:01:53,810 --> 00:02:02,730 info to be through this, Mr. Beathers, Mr. Scott, and Mr. Rooney. 48 00:02:04,590 --> 00:02:09,170 On the first item, we've been going to discuss the environmental resolution 49 00:02:09,950 --> 00:02:10,810 the information. 50 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:13,330 We're going to show the facility that 51 00:02:13,330 --> 00:02:13,710 Alases. 52 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:15,790 Again, it's resolution CBA. 53 00:02:16,450 --> 00:02:18,170 Find that in the land acquisition piece. 54 00:02:18,970 --> 00:02:20,610 And gentlemen, thank you for doing this. 55 00:02:20,750 --> 00:02:21,390 It's morning. 56 00:02:22,250 --> 00:02:22,650 We start. 57 00:02:23,130 --> 00:02:24,470 Good morning. 58 00:02:25,690 --> 00:02:27,490 Mr. Chair, members of the committees. 59 00:02:27,970 --> 00:02:28,870 We're glad to be here. 60 00:02:28,870 --> 00:02:30,870 I'm John Bepis for Stephanie Commissioner, 61 00:02:30,950 --> 00:02:33,150 the Westchester County Department of Social Services. 62 00:02:33,370 --> 00:02:35,810 I'll let Mr. Scott get to do something. 63 00:02:35,810 --> 00:02:36,890 Good morning, everyone. 64 00:02:37,110 --> 00:02:38,310 My name is Randy Scott. 65 00:02:38,310 --> 00:02:43,950 committee commissioners for services. Tom Roney, a reimbursement manager, morning. 66 00:02:45,150 --> 00:02:47,050 I'm sorry, couple of budget specialists. 67 00:02:47,550 --> 00:02:52,570 And just, I want to indicate to the record, we have legislator in the more here, as well as vice chair. 68 00:02:52,750 --> 00:02:53,290 Very close. 69 00:02:53,590 --> 00:02:54,390 Do you have anyone else? 70 00:02:54,510 --> 00:02:55,710 I want to hate to see. 71 00:02:56,010 --> 00:02:57,010 I believe that is all. 72 00:02:57,590 --> 00:02:57,750 Great. 73 00:02:58,190 --> 00:02:59,310 Thank you. 74 00:02:59,370 --> 00:03:00,230 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 75 00:03:00,770 --> 00:03:07,050 So, as you said, we're here to discuss a number of those items, 381, 282, 83 and 84. 76 00:03:07,050 --> 00:03:14,770 all of which relate to the land acquisition that for purchase and upon that for a capital budget 77 00:03:14,770 --> 00:03:21,990 amendment to the SS-22, regarding the acquisition and infrastructure equipment to shelter 78 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:28,910 facility, particularly the OASIS Center, which is located at 19 Washington Street, 79 00:03:29,150 --> 00:03:36,730 meaning Richel, owned by the Archdiocese of New York, in the Detroit section of the city, 80 00:03:36,730 --> 00:03:45,790 adjacent to the hospital. So we have been contracting with this site for dropped in, 81 00:03:45,830 --> 00:03:56,630 shelter services, since 2008 with West Hop, being a single facility we get reimburse of 29% 82 00:03:56,630 --> 00:04:05,640 by New York State, but we are responsible for 79% of the cost of this site. The site is a 83 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,500 7,084 square foot building, 84 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,640 restoring building with a basement located on 0.35 vapors. 85 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,920 It has 26 bedrooms, seven baths. 86 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,160 And it's a deep drop in one of our nine drop-down sites. 87 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,180 It's key because it's the only one on the sound shore. 88 00:04:28,780 --> 00:04:33,940 And critical to a large population of drop-ins at that site. 89 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:39,020 We operate as many as 297 drop-in beds throughout the county, 90 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,860 90 plus percent of which are occupied, 91 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,820 especially during the winter months, 92 00:04:46,020 --> 00:04:47,880 a little bit less during the summer months, 93 00:04:48,140 --> 00:04:50,280 but 90 plus percent during the winter, 94 00:04:51,220 --> 00:04:55,320 and all of our drop-in sites are now over 24-7. 95 00:04:55,860 --> 00:04:59,000 You're around to make sure there's access to shelter. 96 00:05:00,530 --> 00:05:13,370 It's a very old building, more than a hundred years old. It's operated under New York State rates and required inspections and health and safety standards. 97 00:05:14,470 --> 00:05:27,010 And so we'll go through and you'll see some of the pictures, but essentially the work combined requests are for is a $1.2 million purchase and acquisition of the site. 98 00:05:27,010 --> 00:05:36,070 up to 500,000 to re-temperarily, repeat, locate and house, single individuals, while the building is 99 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:45,530 re-have at a cost of about $9.4 million per combined, 11.8 million. 100 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:49,390 Yeah, please, what were the records we've been doing about 101 00:05:49,390 --> 00:05:49,770 challenges? 102 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:53,090 Chairman Dashi, Chairman Dashi, thank you very much. 103 00:05:53,310 --> 00:05:53,510 Thank you. 104 00:05:54,010 --> 00:05:54,850 Thank you. 105 00:05:54,850 --> 00:05:55,890 Thank you. 106 00:05:55,890 --> 00:05:56,210 Pardon. 107 00:05:56,210 --> 00:06:00,740 Find a level of $.1 million plus the $250,000 108 00:06:03,090 --> 00:06:07,230 previously appropriated federal funds in BSS 22. 109 00:06:08,650 --> 00:06:12,510 And essentially, aside from acquiring the building, 110 00:06:12,510 --> 00:06:20,470 we really are looking at all aspects of renovation, including structural exterior, room, windows, 111 00:06:20,610 --> 00:06:28,230 sighting, drainage, sidewalk, landfill, landscape, insulation, interior, bedrooms, bathrooms, 112 00:06:28,650 --> 00:06:34,870 common areas, mechanical plumbing, fire protection, electrical, essentially being a very old building. 113 00:06:34,870 --> 00:06:44,330 previously housed. None of the support of the archdiocese, not had much of any work done in a very 114 00:06:44,330 --> 00:06:50,450 long time, I believe, found that they fit. And perhaps we can go through, you can see some of the pictures 115 00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:52,330 that mean. 116 00:07:00,850 --> 00:07:06,550 Now Tom could point out the south side of the building did have a fire scape at it. 117 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:14,750 want to mention a little bit about that? Sure. There's two separate escapes. Once the 118 00:07:14,750 --> 00:07:23,230 attic area was opened up for placements and there was a requirement by the city. There's a 119 00:07:23,230 --> 00:07:28,270 redundant one as well. You can see there's one in the middle and then there's one to the back 120 00:07:28,270 --> 00:07:35,070 kind of hidden by the trees a little bit. We installed those four different ends there about 10 years ago 121 00:07:35,070 --> 00:07:39,390 just to be compliant safety for safety risk as well. 122 00:07:41,050 --> 00:07:46,890 You can go to the next slide to the north side of the building from the other side of Memorial High. 123 00:07:49,050 --> 00:07:54,990 You can see significant wear to the sighting, which is then close up on the next slide. 124 00:07:57,780 --> 00:08:01,700 Windows in the condition you see in the next slide. 125 00:08:03,330 --> 00:08:12,490 it needs TLC. Roofing, obviously, the next side's significant issues. So it's really in essence a complete 126 00:08:13,610 --> 00:08:18,750 recap, and then you should go towards that even the last slide, you see some of the last two 127 00:08:18,750 --> 00:08:25,290 slides significant deterioration of sighting and even on the on the face of the last slides. 128 00:08:30,340 --> 00:08:30,940 So 129 00:08:30,940 --> 00:08:35,920 Now, D.C. Scott is here if there are questions about how we use D.C. 130 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:42,400 It oversees all of the shelter programs under our office of temporary housing assistance, 131 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,080 those to the millions of the operations of our shelters. 132 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:47,620 But that's essentially what the proposal. 133 00:08:48,660 --> 00:08:51,760 I understand a few questions in them seeing my colleagues. 134 00:08:52,980 --> 00:08:55,300 Well, so in terms of the occupancy rate, 135 00:08:55,300 --> 00:09:01,260 a copy system, you know, the 50s beds we'd alive throughout the year, is it, are they, you know, 136 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:05,040 they used all year or, yes, they are 100% capacity. 137 00:09:05,420 --> 00:09:05,740 Okay. 138 00:09:06,060 --> 00:09:09,080 And with this rehabilitation, are we expanding capacity? 139 00:09:09,460 --> 00:09:13,500 Beyond the 50, or will we just bring the 50 up to modernization standards? 140 00:09:13,740 --> 00:09:14,260 Pro-sensual. 141 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:19,240 And in terms of wrap around services, right? 142 00:09:19,460 --> 00:09:23,460 We'll be a vacation management, mental health services, employment assistance, et cetera. 143 00:09:23,460 --> 00:09:28,800 with this rehabilitation or as there have been any discussion regarding that. 144 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Well, those services are currently provided. 145 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:37,520 So these individuals, it's just that if they need extensive work around employment, 146 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,960 those things they may come to well, district offices to receive those services. 147 00:09:42,420 --> 00:09:46,960 But contract on record for this site is on west top. 148 00:09:47,220 --> 00:09:51,580 And they provides those services and to those individuals as well as help 149 00:09:51,580 --> 00:09:54,100 further than two necessary places in Italy. 150 00:09:54,340 --> 00:09:57,320 Let's go out to reputation proceedings when they do wonderful work. 151 00:09:57,580 --> 00:09:59,900 People with value so I'm very happy to hear that out. 152 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:10,280 We have a queue, I saw, we have leader Olstein, you had a question, let's say the wait, Johnson, let's say the Fugia, let's say the bottom yard, and that will at least find it. 153 00:10:10,980 --> 00:10:11,760 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 154 00:10:12,980 --> 00:10:13,740 One, two more. 155 00:10:14,060 --> 00:10:24,820 I have a few questions, so I have constituents who have been at the facility, who have expressed that it is, what was the work that you used on the game of work? 156 00:10:24,820 --> 00:10:30,100 Here's what's in that map. How confident, I guess I want to understand how this came back. 157 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:36,640 How confident are we that this money is going to actually be adequate for the repair or refurbishment. 158 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:44,200 And I mean, I mean, you need to show you pictures of the inside, but I imagine there's a lot of work 159 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,140 from what I'm hearing because probably more work on the inside has to be done there even on the outside. 160 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:57,660 How does this call it to live in alternative ways to solve this problem to your base that might be more financially pregnant? 161 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:09,240 Well, a couple of things, I think, why not, obviously, the historical nature of this being, since 2008, a site that we've operated at the community that's 162 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,620 and operate well with the community is accepted, 163 00:11:13,060 --> 00:11:15,580 in the location adjacent to the hospital. 164 00:11:16,460 --> 00:11:20,400 I think we know the challenges of citing new facilities. 165 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Obviously DPPW looked very closely at it 166 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,400 to determine what the capital renovation needs are. 167 00:11:30,420 --> 00:11:33,780 I know some of our fiscal team are online as well 168 00:11:33,780 --> 00:11:38,300 if there are specific questions, but certainly we knew 169 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:45,580 it was going to require a major capital investment. And we understand this reflects that, but that, 170 00:11:45,580 --> 00:11:53,440 you know, we're confident that we can address it. And as you said, the contracts have increased 171 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:59,520 over the years with Westcott, but there was limited opportunity because it was owned by the Archdiocese 172 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,540 to your point to be able to get any improvements to it. 173 00:12:06,140 --> 00:12:10,580 So part of part of the request is the purchase. 174 00:12:10,780 --> 00:12:14,040 All right. 175 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:24,860 So I mean, I'd be curious to see a more clear plate on the expected costs. 176 00:12:27,050 --> 00:12:30,990 You know, I just want to even even if the site is a site that's your point. 177 00:12:30,990 --> 00:12:35,030 I know as if that's, like you said, well, you know, 178 00:12:35,070 --> 00:12:37,090 the one thing of this new thing, there's a steam pantry 179 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:38,630 behind, there's the app like a street, 180 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:43,830 but it is a good site, you know, I don't know what the, 181 00:12:44,670 --> 00:12:51,780 it seems to me that the $10,000 could be used to demo in a start-up. 182 00:12:53,530 --> 00:12:55,210 And that might be a better way to go. 183 00:12:55,310 --> 00:12:55,610 I don't know. 184 00:12:55,730 --> 00:12:58,690 So I'd be curious to know what, and it's more kind of benefits. 185 00:12:58,690 --> 00:13:17,070 Well, what we'll think to add to legislature is that, you know, there was particularly from the advisory capital advice we need to try and preserve as much of the character of it so that, you know, just demolishing it and building an institutional building. 186 00:13:17,790 --> 00:13:28,090 So I think that's part of the, and there is an itemized breakdown from the, from our public board of support and that's the work that could be provided on this formally work. 187 00:13:28,330 --> 00:13:30,710 We do have a queue, but to that point, let's say to that point. 188 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:35,070 Yeah, I think to, what, let's start our whole thing's asking for. 189 00:13:35,230 --> 00:13:39,230 I think it would be better to understand how much of that money is being spent to purchase it. 190 00:13:39,330 --> 00:13:42,010 How much is being spent to, and how does it have limitations? 191 00:13:42,010 --> 00:13:49,110 But also, how much are we spending right now to least this, or to pay for whatever it is? 192 00:13:49,190 --> 00:13:52,610 Because I think that if we look at this and say, it's actually a more cost effective, 193 00:13:52,750 --> 00:13:56,930 just to continue to pay on that basis versus to own it. 194 00:13:57,030 --> 00:13:59,810 That might be a better decision for us rather than to say 11. 195 00:13:59,870 --> 00:14:04,650 So I think that that breakdown of a front ongoing versus what we're already paying 196 00:14:04,650 --> 00:14:06,350 would be very helpful for us not to make that decision. 197 00:14:06,350 --> 00:14:11,470 Jeremy Doshy to that point. Yeah, to that point. If we didn't know that, could we do the 198 00:14:12,650 --> 00:14:18,070 capital improvements to the property? No, not normally we don't request. So I don't know that that's a viable 199 00:14:18,070 --> 00:14:23,070 But that's my point, though, is that if we can negotiate them to do it because we're paying them a million 200 00:14:23,070 --> 00:14:25,850 I'm making this off, we're paying them a million dollars for the beds 201 00:14:25,850 --> 00:14:29,190 It might be better for us to say you do that we have to self 202 00:14:29,190 --> 00:14:34,850 We'll continue paying a million, maybe we'll be able to do it too. Yeah, but I'm just I'm that's that's the type of 203 00:14:34,850 --> 00:14:38,470 the information that will help us make a better decision of whether it's better to buy it, 204 00:14:38,650 --> 00:14:43,490 because once we buy it, not only we have to re-ability, once we have to keep doing this. 205 00:14:43,870 --> 00:14:48,410 Right? So this is not a one-time cost. It's going to be every three or four years. We have to keep fixing it. 206 00:14:48,850 --> 00:14:52,770 So buying is very different than just paying on a per-bed basis. 207 00:14:53,190 --> 00:14:56,970 Yeah. And I think a couple of reasons, let's just later, of the intervention that's 208 00:14:56,970 --> 00:14:59,970 the current in the current for a photo of the purchase price as well. 209 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:10,280 2 million, 500,000 for relocation, temporary relocation, drinking renovations, and then 11.1 million for renovations, 210 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:20,160 frosty existing, 250,000 dollars. That's in the current project. So that gives you an idea of the breakdown. 211 00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:22,040 Part of the concern, obviously. 212 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:28,900 One point to the buy, up to 50 through to, I'm to basically re-house people, five hundred 213 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:29,280 five. 214 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,300 Right, one point. 215 00:15:30,460 --> 00:15:32,800 It's like 11.1 to actually fix. 216 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,760 Well, my point four to renovate plus the 250,000. 217 00:15:37,860 --> 00:15:47,500 So it's 11.1 combined purchase, relocation, rehab, and then 250,000, that's in their existing. 218 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:55,560 So, 9.4 rehab plus 250 rehab, 500,000 relocation, 1.2 million acquisitions. 219 00:15:56,180 --> 00:16:00,640 So, the total is the 11.1 plus the 250 existing. 220 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,320 Do you know what we pay on any of your patients right now? 221 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:04,960 1.4 million. 222 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:11,000 So, we have legislative pierced in Vice Chair Clements to this point, to this point. 223 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,000 That's my first. 224 00:16:12,620 --> 00:16:14,060 It is, but it can. 225 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,560 All right, so we'll come back. 226 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,700 My share, please do this point. 227 00:16:18,660 --> 00:16:18,880 Yes. 228 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,160 So in relationship to having the archdiocese fixed up 229 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,920 the property, they will not do it. 230 00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:28,760 I have a whole community services that are located 231 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,480 in one of their properties and they've asked them to leave. 232 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,020 They're in the process of rehabbing another building 233 00:16:34,020 --> 00:16:36,180 to relocate the archdiocese. 234 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,240 It's not going to put that money in. 235 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,760 So that's not something on the table. 236 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,600 It sounds good, but it's not something 237 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,640 that's going to be on the table. 238 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:43,980 And they're going to agree to. 239 00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:49,940 we've already been asked. And we're also understand legislator that they may have an interest in 240 00:16:49,940 --> 00:16:55,500 selling this site too. So somebody else could develop it and with a different character. 241 00:16:56,020 --> 00:17:00,780 So the point, thank you for that thiring event of last year, leaving one in the queue, 242 00:17:00,940 --> 00:17:11,280 let's say to Williamsjust. Thank you, Mr Chair. A couple of things. One, it's indicated, 243 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:21,040 And one spot that's 50 minutes and another eight is the 80 include the observatory site among Vernon and set and even the 80. 244 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:29,220 That's when it's over when there's overflow and there are times when there are significant overflow. 245 00:17:29,940 --> 00:17:40,540 We do actually house the women in Mount Vernon and we have overflow at another site that we're able to utilize when necessary. 246 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:49,360 But, but there is a demand and significant need for as many as that can be done. So it can be over. 247 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,280 Yes, I said that. 248 00:17:52,340 --> 00:17:52,920 I think we're excited. 249 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,640 We have a lot more to answer. 250 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:57,280 Grassland. 251 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:02,240 We have overflow at the grassland single. 252 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:03,860 Okay. 253 00:18:03,860 --> 00:18:11,960 And in the great time we interviewed that 500,000 was for relocation. 254 00:18:12,020 --> 00:18:15,320 Is that relocation and then back emergency? 255 00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:18,200 Yes, so essentially right. 256 00:18:22,460 --> 00:18:23,740 Now there. 257 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,900 I think I just heard that the county's pushing use of capital 258 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:47,100 So that's the 50 was the move and electrical. And the plan report says the electrical value is completed. 259 00:18:47,860 --> 00:19:02,360 Well, very little, obviously, I can't say exactly what was done, but 250 didn't go very far for whatever, and again, historically, the county has not requested capital funds. 260 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:05,120 There may there have been a small pieces added. 261 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:08,660 But, Diane, do you have something to do with that one? 262 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:10,280 I'll see you on you then. 263 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,000 I'm trying to travel here in the question. 264 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:18,080 Is the question about the existing $250,000 for creation? 265 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:19,600 Yes. 266 00:19:25,060 --> 00:19:26,640 Can you hear me? 267 00:19:26,820 --> 00:19:27,740 Yes, Diane. 268 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:29,780 Yes. 269 00:19:29,780 --> 00:19:30,400 I'm sorry. 270 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:37,960 I didn't understand much more later, and somebody else on him. 271 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,140 I can, thank you. 272 00:19:41,420 --> 00:19:42,340 So I was acquired. 273 00:19:42,340 --> 00:19:47,740 That's about $250 of appropriation. 274 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,840 That's somewhere is indicated that the electrical, that's a 250,000 fiscal loop, moving 275 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,380 and electrical and other work, and that the electrical was completed. 276 00:20:02,140 --> 00:20:19,920 And I did not touch it in the new legislation because it was a board ad. And I just left it on its own as a possible potential future cushion. But there's been no expenditures against this project. 277 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:28,180 existing appropriation was a board of legislators add in 2025 and I'm having that just sit on its own. 278 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:38,640 This this request here for 11.1 million in purposes the acquisition, relocation and rehab of the building. 279 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,440 So I'm not quite sure where you're seeing that it was actually expanded. 280 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:51,240 perhaps, DSS did some work in their operating budget, but I don't have any capital expenses 281 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,440 against this project. 282 00:20:53,280 --> 00:21:05,000 And the planning report attached to the, let me go to that, let me go to that, let me go to 283 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,760 that, let me go to that, let me go to that, let me go to that, let me go to that, let me go to 284 00:21:10,860 --> 00:21:11,540 that. 285 00:21:11,540 --> 00:21:14,620 And then I will replace this through then, and assist it. 286 00:21:16,020 --> 00:21:16,780 Hang on. 287 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:22,220 And while you're looking, the planning commissioners, July 7th, 288 00:21:22,420 --> 00:21:31,940 acquisition report on page, can you indicate that the total parts will be amount not to exceed 10.6 million. 289 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,360 The 500,000 I've been telling you is the additional relocation costs. 290 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:44,760 Yeah, and I know Bob Robert is on as well. 291 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,640 I don't know if you're aware of any electrical work. 292 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,220 So, no, I'm not familiar with the estimate of the project. 293 00:21:53,040 --> 00:22:01,860 So, I, maybe speak to the confusion created by the planning board statements. 294 00:22:01,860 --> 00:22:16,900 I believe that Gerby Edge dates back to 2025 when the project was originally 295 00:22:19,140 --> 00:22:19,980 created, 296 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:29,480 and that information stating that electrical work was recently completed is accurate. 297 00:22:29,620 --> 00:22:35,280 However, it was not completed under this particular capital project. 298 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:41,760 I think the author of that language is just sort of giving a snapshot of the state 299 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:49,580 of the building's repairs. The funding source of the electrical repairs that were recently completed 300 00:22:49,580 --> 00:22:57,000 was not the capital project. It had to have come out of DSS operating in either 24 or 25. 301 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,340 Again, the statement the roof needs 150,000 in repairs. 302 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:15,340 I'm not the author of this statement, but I'm surmising that would be a quick and dirty patch, the most egregious issues. 303 00:23:15,940 --> 00:23:29,760 Whereas the proposal that you have before you is a far more comprehensive undertaking that, of which the cost estimates were developed by DPW. 304 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:36,580 And we're the results of a more thorough look at the building's conditions. 305 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:43,600 So I think the planning board report that you're looking at is, 306 00:23:43,780 --> 00:23:48,600 while the information is not correct. It's a little outdated. 307 00:23:50,060 --> 00:23:59,600 And let's just say to that point, thank you, Diane, you know, knowing the condition of the facility over the last, you know, 18 years. 308 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:09,720 We either encourage our strategies or the operator with our support in some cases to do whatever to, to Diane's point. 309 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,140 Help to build the building together while we found a more permanent solution. 310 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:24,160 I think just two more points, what about I need a bit that we get as best folks or anything 311 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,100 is that included in this estimate? 312 00:24:27,140 --> 00:24:29,960 Yes, I understand that everything's included. 313 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,640 Robert, I don't know, Diane, if you want to weigh in, I believe that's, you know, any anticipated 314 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,260 costs are included in the estimate. 315 00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:40,920 I'm going to do something. 316 00:24:43,090 --> 00:24:43,930 I'm going to do something. 317 00:24:44,090 --> 00:24:44,650 I'm going to do something. 318 00:24:44,910 --> 00:24:45,610 I'm going to do something. 319 00:24:45,610 --> 00:24:46,710 I'm going to do something. 320 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:48,390 Robert, go to take a picture. 321 00:24:48,610 --> 00:24:49,770 I haven't reviewed the estimate. 322 00:25:02,130 --> 00:25:11,630 We can't help you. Robert, you want to take take take? I haven't reviewed the estimate. Normally I just want to practice. 323 00:25:13,130 --> 00:25:14,130 We would include in. 324 00:25:15,090 --> 00:25:15,950 Yeah, I don't think so. 325 00:25:16,690 --> 00:25:17,790 All right, so let's do it. 326 00:25:17,870 --> 00:25:20,010 Let's have a look at that. 327 00:25:20,250 --> 00:25:22,950 Yeah, if you can mention it, can you confirm that? 328 00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:24,370 And in circle bed? 329 00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:25,970 Yes, certainly. 330 00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:27,790 We're good for. 331 00:25:28,050 --> 00:25:29,290 And one last question. 332 00:25:29,290 --> 00:25:36,410 I think it's an indication that it's building it is eligible for the net and our 333 00:25:36,410 --> 00:25:44,510 resort is a great experience that has been five or four already world's at the 334 00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:44,850 plan. 335 00:25:45,250 --> 00:25:47,530 No, Tom, you spoke with the city group. 336 00:25:48,350 --> 00:25:50,850 Yeah, the city is not asking for that to happen. 337 00:25:51,390 --> 00:25:59,110 So, as the plan progresses, the idea is to keep it consistent with its current the way it 338 00:25:59,110 --> 00:26:06,330 now pretty much. All of that would be taken into consideration. The plan has to really move that far yet 339 00:26:06,330 --> 00:26:13,710 to consider what we'd be done with as far as historical property. What has Deputy Commissioner 340 00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:19,370 Beath has said earlier, the plan is to keep the consistent with what it is in the character 341 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:25,150 have never played it yet. And I'll just piggyback on what's coming up in the majority of the 342 00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:30,430 adults on the same level to say that on the land there, maybe it would be really good to know 343 00:26:30,430 --> 00:26:31,430 the figures. 344 00:26:36,590 --> 00:26:41,270 Well, the current budget is up to $1.4 million for the operating. 345 00:26:46,110 --> 00:26:49,350 That's not the 346 00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:57,310 And I did what's able to identify there is environmental testing and environmental remediation 347 00:26:57,310 --> 00:27:00,190 asbestos and led in the budget of the renovation. 348 00:27:02,250 --> 00:27:02,410 So. 349 00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:04,670 And I keep it in five. 350 00:27:05,050 --> 00:27:05,130 Yes. 351 00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:09,810 We would also like to see the anticipated view. 352 00:27:10,010 --> 00:27:11,430 We'll be, of course, once again. 353 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:13,690 It's for the last lecture. 354 00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:17,630 Thank you. 355 00:27:18,290 --> 00:27:18,630 Sure. 356 00:27:22,650 --> 00:27:24,830 I'm actually just thinking a few steps ahead. 357 00:27:25,010 --> 00:27:27,910 So if this had the improvements were to be approved, 358 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:31,330 being that it is at 100% capacity, 359 00:27:31,770 --> 00:27:34,210 how long would these improvements take to happen 360 00:27:34,210 --> 00:27:37,150 as well as would there be temporary placements 361 00:27:37,150 --> 00:27:39,550 for those 50 beds and would it be nearby? 362 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:41,090 And what would that look like? 363 00:27:43,050 --> 00:27:46,490 Certainly, I think Tom is at least at two teams. 364 00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:55,670 Yeah, and then the planning phase of it in addition to that on other six months to plan 18 months. Yeah, so it will work 365 00:27:55,670 --> 00:28:03,550 You're obviously once you start taking into the walls and whatever about age building such as this that could go a little bit longer 366 00:28:03,550 --> 00:28:13,170 And what would be the plan for those occupants of those 50 that's done during that time we would transport those occupants either to 367 00:28:13,170 --> 00:28:22,770 Rastlands or we would do the lies of current existing contract with our hotels and my last question if I may 368 00:28:22,770 --> 00:28:31,870 Mr. Terry, how, so since it's at 100% capacity, what is the turnover of people leaving and other people filling those spots of the 369 00:28:33,490 --> 00:28:34,610 typically average? 370 00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:44,310 But in terms of turnover, I want to say like I go and I stay there for two months, three months. 371 00:28:44,810 --> 00:28:50,990 I may go and utilize that bed, well maybe that will work, but then I don't come back and so another three months later on. 372 00:28:51,530 --> 00:29:01,450 So basically there's always space to satisfy those individuals during that time, and if they're not placed there, then they can go to grasslands. 373 00:29:02,190 --> 00:29:05,630 So those locations, all we could put it in the hotel of Dessness, 374 00:29:05,890 --> 00:29:07,870 so we haven't had to get to that point yet. 375 00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:10,950 And with a project of this, you know, for two years, 376 00:29:11,150 --> 00:29:13,550 that really could have a lot of shifts and images 377 00:29:13,550 --> 00:29:15,970 with given how quickly people are there for a few nights, 378 00:29:15,970 --> 00:29:17,450 or they're dropping in for a week or. 379 00:29:17,910 --> 00:29:21,830 And one of the charges that I have is to work with the community 380 00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:24,750 to see if we can identify a space within the community. 381 00:29:25,070 --> 00:29:27,650 So that's conversations that are being had now 382 00:29:27,650 --> 00:29:29,330 with various different people. 383 00:29:29,330 --> 00:29:33,530 that may be interested in working with us, and then working with the 384 00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:37,730 unless it is on, and local politicians to come up with. 385 00:29:37,870 --> 00:29:38,510 Thank you so much. 386 00:29:40,370 --> 00:29:41,250 Thank you. 387 00:29:41,330 --> 00:29:43,030 Diane, please join us at the end. 388 00:29:43,650 --> 00:29:45,150 I have a lot to talk about. 389 00:29:45,710 --> 00:29:46,270 I have a lot to talk about. 390 00:29:46,350 --> 00:29:47,770 I have a lot to talk about. 391 00:29:47,770 --> 00:29:49,050 You put your card back. 392 00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:50,170 You have the technology. 393 00:29:50,410 --> 00:29:51,550 My computer is going to start. 394 00:29:51,550 --> 00:29:52,850 I'm sorry, Diane, why you get set up. 395 00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:55,470 But next in the queue, let's let it not be your black user. 396 00:29:55,790 --> 00:29:56,010 Sure. 397 00:29:56,270 --> 00:29:56,910 Thank you. 398 00:29:57,390 --> 00:29:59,970 And the two questions, so I just want to take them from the one. 399 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:14,620 This portion would change. But of course, there's the continued operating of the site. So that's the staff and supervision of the site and continued operations of the site. But it would likely be a different thought. 400 00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:18,840 So right now we pay 1.4 to Westcom. 401 00:30:19,060 --> 00:30:19,300 Correct. 402 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,360 Up and two. 403 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,140 And they're paying for the staff and everything like that, or we're paying for the staff. 404 00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:24,200 No, they pay for the staff. 405 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,220 Through the money we pay the property. 406 00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:31,360 So is Westcom continue like once we found it, there's Westcom continued to grow. 407 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:32,560 Yes. 408 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:40,080 When the individuals are relocated, Westcom will still have to manage those in the 409 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,460 bitu, as well as Westcom has the contract with grasslands. 410 00:30:43,780 --> 00:30:49,160 So that's why we would relocate the folks from Oasis to grasslands, so that the staff 411 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,400 had Oasis with the end-go to grasslands and continue to provide. 412 00:30:52,400 --> 00:31:14,540 But the one point of choice, not just this new or shell location that it is, yes, so that those services will be moved to where those individuals go say grassland. Right. So that funding will need to go to grasslands and order for it to continue to understand how much that if we reduce because we now own just facility versus we are now just a tenant. 413 00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:20,800 So it wouldn't decrease because you still have to operate the service, but there would be the least of these stuff. 414 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,360 Yes. 415 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,680 We have a set of Amish edits. 416 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:24,500 Do we know? 417 00:31:24,580 --> 00:31:24,960 I don't know. 418 00:31:24,980 --> 00:31:28,020 I don't know that number all paying, but we can get that number too. 419 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,860 Because that's at least there's some laws that are from us buying this. 420 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,580 That's it right now. 421 00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:34,280 Okay. 422 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,900 Thank you. 423 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,080 Thank you. 424 00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:36,280 All right. 425 00:31:36,580 --> 00:31:37,080 Thank you. 426 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:37,780 Let's sort of tune in. 427 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:38,980 Thank you. 428 00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:42,620 I'm just going to repeat a few quick facts, just clarification, a few things. 429 00:31:42,620 --> 00:31:45,980 So total of what the improvements in Berks is 11.1, is that correct? 430 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,700 That's correct, okay. 431 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,700 And then there are improvements in both include Roof and Signing Replacement, 432 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,820 HVAC, plumbing and biprotection and Sera. 433 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:02,140 And it archdiocese, it's leases to West Community Opportunity West Scott since 2001, 434 00:32:02,140 --> 00:32:03,580 in the second half of the day. 435 00:32:04,580 --> 00:32:06,780 2018, 2018, it's the 2018 one would deal. 436 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:08,520 Okay. 437 00:32:09,580 --> 00:32:12,800 And then it's 1.4 million to operate or 1.2. 438 00:32:12,980 --> 00:32:13,700 Was the number again? 439 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,460 4, 4, 2, up to. 440 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,840 Thank you. 441 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,280 2, 3, 5 acres, that's there. 442 00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:21,360 And when is the lease up? 443 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,060 Not sure. 444 00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:23,760 With the lease. 445 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,180 The rest land is actually, 446 00:32:25,180 --> 00:32:26,680 um, we are Phoenix, 447 00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:28,640 this perspective site. 448 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,540 I don't know you so. 449 00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:31,120 You mean the lease for a Wases? 450 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,700 Oh, voice, it's right. I believe so. Oh, wait, he's just I would have to get the 451 00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:38,080 Please get me that number and the history and secures. What was this in the 452 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,200 position? What was this built and what was it used for? 453 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,040 How many? What's that image built? Yeah, we understand turn of the century in 454 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,360 1900. And it's the 100. 455 00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:48,580 At least, I think. 456 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,200 The 19 19 19, that's you. Thank you. 457 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,080 Okay. 458 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,680 Thank you for now. 459 00:32:55,820 --> 00:32:56,760 Appreciate your talk. All right. 460 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,600 Let's see the future. 461 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,100 Yes, thank you. So I know we kind of danced around the 462 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:06,940 plans, it's unusual for us to see, I'm not, I'm heard of, but I'm 463 00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:09,900 usual to pass a bond act without there being any type of design 464 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:14,640 work done. And so we have nothing here. We don't even have a, the, the D to 465 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,620 give you a pause break down. So I'm, I'm officially asking for that. 466 00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,640 And I'm asking also why we are going to, I understand why we're 467 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,620 moving forward, but why we're going out to bond without having more 468 00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:30,140 information. And maybe Diane, as you're here, a person you need to. 469 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,280 Yeah, I mean, I acknowledged first and morning. 470 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,040 You know, I need to talk about that. 471 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,160 Thank you for accommodating. 472 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,740 I don't know what's wrong with my microphone, but we do. 473 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,000 You are correct. 474 00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:48,120 We typically have a design package. 475 00:33:49,340 --> 00:33:50,740 And then you have a better idea. 476 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,780 It gives everybody a better idea at the cost. 477 00:33:53,780 --> 00:34:22,120 The package is up before you does, in fact, constantly request an authorization of the form of estimated project amount based on DPW's physical site, this is down and examining the various systems and what they feel should be done in the interest of the expedited and basically priority. 478 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:28,740 But yes, acknowledge, okay, it's a different approach. 479 00:34:31,060 --> 00:34:35,460 So given that approach, can we at least see the breakdown? 480 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,320 Yes, you do. 481 00:34:36,620 --> 00:34:38,640 So that we have some things going on after the main. 482 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,260 It should be different. 483 00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:41,560 It should be there for the community. 484 00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:44,720 But the community did do an estimate. 485 00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:50,020 And it does contain systems and breakdowns. 486 00:34:50,700 --> 00:34:51,980 So we can't get that out of the way. 487 00:34:51,980 --> 00:34:53,080 I don't think she's serving like that. 488 00:34:55,780 --> 00:34:57,300 Sorry. Are you going to another question? 489 00:34:57,380 --> 00:34:58,100 I think we had another one. 490 00:34:58,380 --> 00:34:59,560 It's really good to have the same question. 491 00:34:59,580 --> 00:34:59,800 Okay. 492 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:10,400 So assuming therefore in that ballot and I know we're kind of shooting blind right now must be design money, because I mean, I assume we're going outside to have design work done. 493 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:21,260 So when they talked about six months for planning, I presume that's not six months to do the design work because we are not successful in getting made a design work done. 494 00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:27,820 So is that in a different, that six months to plan, is that what we were assuming was the 495 00:35:27,820 --> 00:35:30,760 design work or six months to plan how we're going to move people. 496 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,660 I think that was almost from this time. 497 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,480 That was an estimate too, you know, I think it's usually could be a couple of years, I think 498 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,260 is my understanding. 499 00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:39,240 This is my understanding. 500 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,440 It was 18 months. 501 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,640 So it was decided. 502 00:35:42,260 --> 00:35:42,380 Okay. 503 00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:47,140 This is exactly the question of why we're following this earlier. 504 00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:52,540 So, following the design multi-schedule that has estimated to take nine months to complete. 505 00:35:53,700 --> 00:36:00,320 So, as reported up to nine months, to anticipate that the design will be completed using both 506 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:06,260 in-house staff and consultants and construction aching months. So, that's why the full estimate was. 507 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,360 Yeah, I totally understand putting in a bond for the cost of the building, the cost for design. 508 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:18,660 And I just find this, this, this first leap makes me uncomfortable, and also I'm 509 00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:24,120 question that the evaluation for the property, where did the one to million come from? 510 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,380 The director of real estate did have the, they did as a part of the negotiations. 511 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,180 They did have asset estimates and the property was the only way. 512 00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:39,680 Okay, can we get that information as well? 513 00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:40,680 Because usually we're given that. 514 00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:43,620 We usually give in sometimes is more than one. 515 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,020 And that's for every piece of property we're buying it. 516 00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,000 So that information is missing as well. 517 00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:50,020 Thank you. 518 00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:50,900 Thank you. 519 00:36:51,140 --> 00:36:51,620 Absolutely. 520 00:36:52,260 --> 00:36:53,040 The majority of leaders are full. 521 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,420 I'm just, yeah. 522 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,180 I mean, your point is what faith in a bad expert in the process. 523 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,340 That's something triggered is. 524 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,260 Was there was there a conversation with the church that triggered this? 525 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,260 Is this because I mean, as you know, 526 00:37:06,260 --> 00:37:09,760 We're just, I'm going to share that. 527 00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:14,520 Basically, the church has been looking to sell property. 528 00:37:15,380 --> 00:37:19,600 And they were looking to sell this property to the highest bidder. 529 00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:24,080 And knowing that this is the only location that we have on that side of the zone, 530 00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:29,260 sure we felt like we couldn't have this site go because if we lost this site, 531 00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:33,260 then all of those individuals would be noticing the areas over there, 532 00:37:33,260 --> 00:37:35,020 which would cause a bigger issue. 533 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,120 So we looked into how we could negotiate purchase 534 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,980 in this type on this site. 535 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,440 And that's when Chris Davis came into the mix 536 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,540 and started negotiations with our chises. 537 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:48,080 I mean, that's helpful again. 538 00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:49,940 I think this isn't too recognized 539 00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:52,560 that there is a sense of urgency in the purchase. 540 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,180 I do have to group my colleague. 541 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,520 And so a little concern was kind of the flavor 542 00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,380 of my original question. 543 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,080 So a little concern to me that we're sort of estimating 544 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:08,940 a sizable bond without the design and understanding of the timeline is a little bit. 545 00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:13,020 It's concerned that it may not be right number, I guess we'll say it that way, I guess we'll 546 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:14,340 say it that way. 547 00:38:14,340 --> 00:38:15,180 Yeah, it's not. 548 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,260 I have a clear scope. 549 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:23,940 Well, and obviously, that's why I went into and specifically shared with the WTPW provided the 550 00:38:23,940 --> 00:38:25,240 9 months plus the 18th. 551 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,140 I did also pull the information from real estate. 552 00:38:28,140 --> 00:38:35,940 are understanding what we had. It was assessed at 1.6 million, a praise dip 1.3 with the offer of 1.2. 553 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,440 But that could be good for her. 554 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,680 Okay, certainly an anomaly of a situation, but, you know, there we need time sensitive. 555 00:38:45,220 --> 00:38:45,520 Yes. 556 00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:50,040 Any other questions or comments from members of the community? 557 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,540 The year or online. 558 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,000 All right, areas of the nut, uh, uh, getting ready wolves. 559 00:38:58,980 --> 00:39:00,040 I'll entertain motion. 560 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,060 That's a question. 561 00:39:02,460 --> 00:39:04,040 Oh, I would just like to ask that. 562 00:39:04,220 --> 00:39:06,540 There are chair persons that the services to the chair not. 563 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,640 But that we have not. 564 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,040 We've not to take a go to on this item until we get the items in question. 565 00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:15,580 What is the, will it be committee? 566 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,520 We're going to put it without prejudice. 567 00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:20,120 Yeah, that's, that's why we have the without prejudice. 568 00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:24,620 to, as aforementioned. 569 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:29,980 But the reason why I phrase it that way is usually it's just one item that's missing, we just 570 00:39:29,980 --> 00:39:30,740 need to wrap that. 571 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,980 I feel like the laugh is so big that I, and we may have more questions after the item arrives, 572 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,940 and I don't want to make it difficult to ask those questions if we have to bring it back 573 00:39:40,940 --> 00:39:41,240 to me. 574 00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,820 Obviously, this is not a concern about not supporting the topic, and when they get very 575 00:39:44,820 --> 00:39:47,040 clear, this is just about the process. 576 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,640 So I'll continue to take motions if we don't have a motion in a second. 577 00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:51,700 If we don't move forward, we'll take the eye. 578 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,580 This is a second. 579 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,040 Is this ready where we can vote just on it? 580 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:55,860 Why are we? 581 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,540 Without prejudice. 582 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,800 That one is a vote. 583 00:39:58,180 --> 00:39:59,860 We don't have a proper motion for that. 584 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,640 That's for my question. 585 00:40:03,060 --> 00:40:05,000 1.22 is just a buy. 586 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,340 We get no separate funds. 587 00:40:09,060 --> 00:40:11,100 You'd have to break up. 588 00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:12,720 That's a question. 589 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,080 You'd have to break it out. 590 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,720 So, we can offer as the person to go on. 591 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:19,580 Okay. 592 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,020 We can't break it out. 593 00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:25,440 So, again, do we have the motion or a second if we don't? 594 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,920 We can take these four items. 595 00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:34,280 We're going to take a look for now and hope I need it. 596 00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:36,500 Especially since some of those documents are existing. 597 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,980 We can just circulate them and we'll have opportunities. 598 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,280 I think most of this is available quickly. 599 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,880 All right. 600 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,380 So you'll need that to us. 601 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,320 I don't know. 602 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,220 What can we expect? 603 00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:53,640 This is we can get to the departments. 604 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,600 And I don't know if you read and what. 605 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,960 I don't know, I just like to, you know, 606 00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,680 what it means exactly. 607 00:41:00,740 --> 00:41:01,440 I got to have to pay for it. 608 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,340 It has the bit being accepted. 609 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,800 One point two. 610 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,580 I don't know how that is. 611 00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:06,040 I understand. 612 00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:08,460 They have accepted that on. 613 00:41:08,460 --> 00:41:08,700 They have. 614 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:09,520 Okay. 615 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,240 We're going to have to. 616 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,320 How can we be possible to put the bond in the internet? 617 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:15,940 Because she bonds. 618 00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:17,440 Like, we're going to do that. 619 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,240 I don't know if it's okay. 620 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:20,980 I'm going to have to go to the market. 621 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,240 I'm going to have to go to the market. 622 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:31,040 All right, so let's just take a look now and we'll move forward when we receive the requested information from San Francisco. 623 00:41:32,860 --> 00:41:34,080 There you go. All right. 624 00:41:34,180 --> 00:41:34,540 Thank you. 625 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:35,640 Thank you. 626 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:37,460 All right. 627 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:39,740 Thank you. 628 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:40,520 Please. 629 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:40,840 Thank you, 630 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,100 Mr. Chairman. 631 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:45,560 I'm David. 632 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,180 I'm Chair of the Education Committee. 633 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,860 I'm the leader of the game by time. 634 00:41:50,540 --> 00:41:52,000 I am here by Streetic Matt. 635 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:52,820 Let's say to Far. 636 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,680 Let's say to James. 637 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,000 Let's say to him. 638 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:57,540 Here. 639 00:41:58,260 --> 00:41:59,220 Let's be a positive order. 640 00:42:00,180 --> 00:42:00,380 And we'll be by. 641 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,340 And now. 642 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,580 And while we wait for our friends from the moment of department. 643 00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:08,140 The family has to go on. 644 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:09,680 Who's present to us? 645 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,080 Just a judge. 646 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,600 I didn't tell you. 647 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,580 Sean, I'm telling you. 648 00:42:12,020 --> 00:42:12,440 Okay. 649 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:13,380 Okay. 650 00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:16,980 So as he comes to table, I would ask for a motion for the minutes. 651 00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:18,300 of July 13th, 26. 652 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,380 I will move that by the house. 653 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:23,960 Yeah. 654 00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:25,500 Yes. 655 00:42:26,220 --> 00:42:27,960 Legislator, room Johnson. 656 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,000 I'm sorry. 657 00:42:29,420 --> 00:42:29,660 I'm sorry. 658 00:42:29,660 --> 00:42:29,940 I'm sorry. 659 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,340 All right. 660 00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:32,500 Thank you. 661 00:42:33,340 --> 00:42:34,980 Let's live in a more. 662 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,580 We move all two item three nine five. 663 00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:39,420 So, 664 00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:41,140 BG. 665 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,320 I'm back. 666 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,320 It's hard. 667 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:43,840 I'm sorry. 668 00:42:47,780 --> 00:42:49,340 I don't know, I don't know, for 5- 669 00:42:49,340 --> 00:42:50,460 Pre недio is 5- 670 00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:51,960 Pre-95 is, Gigi. 671 00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:52,780 Gigi. 672 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,660 Morning everybody, this is kind of being a little lighter 673 00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:59,220 and a little faster and probably just... 674 00:42:59,860 --> 00:43:03,180 Mark Gareff on this little part of my favorite stuff in John 675 00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:03,500 and John, Jonah. 676 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,240 This is very simple. 677 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,680 This is the case of a debt that was doing a county many, many 678 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,500 years ago. 679 00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:15,500 And it was just like that of five June of this year. 680 00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:18,500 All right, you know what I think. 681 00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:21,960 So I think we we're on 395 of the D.G. 682 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,600 Well, the workers' time. 683 00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:25,400 Are you able to do the workers now? 684 00:43:25,620 --> 00:43:26,280 That's somebody else. 685 00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:27,240 Okay, so that's two. 686 00:43:28,780 --> 00:43:30,880 So this is this is not identified. 687 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,040 Yeah. 688 00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:33,360 This is item six. 689 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,720 All right. 690 00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:36,360 So we'll move on to three. 691 00:43:36,620 --> 00:43:37,000 63. 692 00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:39,400 We can present that item more circle back. 693 00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:41,340 Now I'll be done by the time he gets up. 694 00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:46,700 So, I think my desk June, we got a phone call that came in the 695 00:43:46,700 --> 00:43:55,640 dialed Dixon or a receptionist in the lady who says there's about $84,552. 696 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:02,900 That's due, as she called it, to the Croton point dump, and it's actually due to the 697 00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:07,480 Department of Environmental Facilities. Apparently, way, way back. I spoke a little bit 698 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,800 on who I believe is on here somewhere. 699 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,620 I'm on the DS on the call. 700 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,440 Yep, great. Thanks, guys. 701 00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:16,640 Put me off at any point if you want. 702 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:17,580 Thank you. 703 00:44:17,580 --> 00:44:19,560 Before you dive deeper, they're going to be to you. 704 00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:22,500 And just introduce yourselves for the rest of the week. 705 00:44:22,820 --> 00:44:23,960 Vincent, convict your commissioner, 706 00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:26,020 do you have a little bit of a challenge for us to have 707 00:44:26,020 --> 00:44:26,560 any commissioner? 708 00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:28,600 Not better each, you'd definitely commissioner. 709 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,640 Thank you. 710 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,700 So way, way back, we do have any research. 711 00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:44,680 an organization called Global Geophysical Services 8. 712 00:44:44,980 --> 00:44:46,320 It's some work, but the county. 713 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,400 And the research that we did was through court files. 714 00:44:50,620 --> 00:44:52,960 We tried to see, like, how long ago this debt started. 715 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,600 And this is, like, back, it could be in the 80s or 90s. 716 00:44:56,740 --> 00:44:59,240 It goes so far back that the records are not even electronic. 717 00:44:59,520 --> 00:44:59,980 The records didn't... 718 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,180 In this court, in Illinois, a fever. So eventually, this organization, this is called a geophysical geophysical 719 00:45:07,180 --> 00:45:12,380 going bankrupt. If it's taken over by from the call, GDS sign with donations, it's too much to be 720 00:45:12,380 --> 00:45:19,000 taken off and you die. But basically, there's a recovery item, an important Illinois to the tune 721 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,940 of a set, a $4,000, if you $1,080, which after the 722 00:45:23,940 --> 00:45:26,640 organization would do very, very difficult, 723 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:31,020 unclane with ugly service, take the one-third 724 00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:35,500 commission, will net the county, $58,836, 725 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,380 and un-737. 726 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,220 So that's the broad parameters. 727 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,860 You're not going to drill down, go for it. 728 00:45:43,860 --> 00:45:47,340 That would not let the second one go back. 729 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,360 Thank you for saving. 730 00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:51,860 Every much just a resident six outs. 731 00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:58,180 That's one of the terms. 732 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,480 Any other questions or comments from members? 733 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,280 Let's say we're just. 734 00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:06,200 So I'm concerned. 735 00:46:06,740 --> 00:46:07,620 Why are we okay? 736 00:46:07,940 --> 00:46:10,240 Is it excellent question? 737 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:19,060 So John known as says that we basically could try to do it in our house, but we'd have to hire somebody, we'd actually have to hire a ball farm to do this. 738 00:46:19,420 --> 00:46:23,000 And this organization can do it faster, I think. 739 00:46:23,420 --> 00:46:25,380 And the transmittal memo. 740 00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,120 It'll take this organization. 741 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,800 We're going to go through these deals and nothing. 742 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,520 We'll take three to five months where he thinks that if it goes to an outside London, we're going to take it all over a year. 743 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,620 And these guys, they know what to do when they do this for a living, a lot of term. 744 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,000 I don't know if it would be the same amount of money, but it might be close. 745 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,320 You know, a bank of disease for them, for probably my charge. 746 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,860 I was $1 an hour, I could go to shoot it. 747 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,520 Is that it? 748 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,000 You gave me that out of that. 749 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:54,540 That's to it. 750 00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:55,780 Other estimates for it. 751 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,600 No, no. 752 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:05,060 And so, and there's a, other than having the money and cash, there's not a rush. 753 00:47:05,060 --> 00:47:12,000 The money this allows to capture, there might be a limitation. 754 00:47:14,620 --> 00:47:17,260 It's in what's called, again, I don't know how to get you to eat. 755 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,960 And should it spread it to the court's unclean fund registry. 756 00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:22,240 And then it has to go to the hospital. 757 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,180 It can be recovered. 758 00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:29,480 I think there it is. 759 00:47:29,580 --> 00:47:31,180 It sits on claim for five years. 760 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:33,960 The funds to transfer to the federal treasury. 761 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,780 But yeah, there's a problem. 762 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,960 And I can, I get this as much as everyone just, and this is not. 763 00:47:39,620 --> 00:47:42,920 I think I genuinely think it would be cheaper to do this for this. 764 00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:46,220 I think it's easier than I think it would be. 765 00:47:46,220 --> 00:47:50,060 We'd have to engage someone in and on the way to have to do that. 766 00:47:50,060 --> 00:47:55,260 So it would just be kind of embarrassed for six cents for every. 767 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,960 Thank you. 768 00:47:58,580 --> 00:48:00,040 Any other questions or comments? 769 00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:03,940 All right. 770 00:48:03,940 --> 00:48:09,820 What was this that you negotiated at all the 30% or they just told us that's the 771 00:48:09,820 --> 00:48:10,540 thing. 772 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,920 I think John figured this was about what it would cost and did not try to negotiate. 773 00:48:16,820 --> 00:48:17,600 This is true. 774 00:48:17,980 --> 00:48:21,860 And maybe we can ask some of the factors in the words at the table. 775 00:48:23,260 --> 00:48:23,660 This is true. 776 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,700 Not only is it cheap but there are standard rates associated with some of this stuff. 777 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,640 Is this consistent with your expectations, the standard rates for a collection of this nature? 778 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,020 Yes. All right. 779 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,920 Could you share a commission that's a percentage around 25 or 30 years ahead? 780 00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:40,950 Thank you. 781 00:48:42,670 --> 00:48:42,870 Thank you. 782 00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:44,370 I mean, I mean, I mean, she knows what she's going to do. 783 00:48:44,670 --> 00:48:45,550 Thank you. Is that a second? 784 00:48:46,110 --> 00:48:48,470 I mean, we have a motion in a second. 785 00:48:50,030 --> 00:48:50,570 All in favour. 786 00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:52,350 I ask any opposed. 787 00:48:53,050 --> 00:48:55,010 Again, this is where three, six, eight, three. 788 00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:56,190 A combination. 789 00:48:56,810 --> 00:48:57,010 Okay. 790 00:48:57,630 --> 00:48:59,650 Do I have a motion set for you? 791 00:48:59,970 --> 00:49:00,070 Yes, of course. 792 00:49:00,250 --> 00:49:02,410 So what is the exact same thing? 793 00:49:02,510 --> 00:49:02,710 I'm saying the other option. 794 00:49:02,830 --> 00:49:03,870 You got a sheet on paper. 795 00:49:04,270 --> 00:49:04,450 Yes. 796 00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:10,710 Thank you. 797 00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:11,010 Thank you. 798 00:49:11,210 --> 00:49:11,590 Thank you. 799 00:49:11,590 --> 00:49:13,770 And that's a great day. 800 00:49:14,090 --> 00:49:18,150 We move back to item 395. 801 00:49:18,730 --> 00:49:23,350 The lawsuit settlement and before we went into that item, I was told. 802 00:49:23,410 --> 00:49:24,690 I used the term table. 803 00:49:24,930 --> 00:49:25,430 We won't be table. 804 00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:27,190 We'll be continuing to be first for items. 805 00:49:27,290 --> 00:49:28,690 Concerning Oasis Center. 806 00:49:28,930 --> 00:49:30,390 So just a minute. 807 00:49:50,290 --> 00:49:59,970 So this is a pretty broad settlement, but the authorities that let rest here, just to give a, yeah. 808 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,980 Anymore, for workers' concettlements, there's tends to be two that affect the county immediately. One is when there's a settlement of a personal injury case. The second is when somebody has an ongoing injury because of, I'm sorry, ongoing complications because of their original injury that we're obligated to pay for on a continuous basis, the statutory system allows us to settle the case so that it extinguishes our human medical obligations and reduces the e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e 809 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:38,020 future financial obligations to a net present value. D.G. was a supervisor of K.S. 810 00:50:38,020 --> 00:50:43,600 for the whole game July 2018. It was struck by a car on Martin. 811 00:50:44,580 --> 00:50:46,960 If you can, can you use yourself? 812 00:50:59,620 --> 00:51:00,160 Can you hear me? 813 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,720 Oh, there we go. 814 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,320 You can take a look at somebody else. 815 00:51:03,580 --> 00:51:04,900 I don't know. 816 00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:05,720 I don't know. 817 00:51:06,540 --> 00:51:07,820 I don't know. 818 00:51:07,860 --> 00:51:08,440 I don't know. 819 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,320 I don't know. 820 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:11,780 I don't 821 00:51:13,860 --> 00:51:14,300 know. 822 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,180 I don't know. 823 00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:16,100 I don't know. 824 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,280 I don't know. 825 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:16,400 All right. 826 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:16,880 There we go. 827 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:17,720 Please continue. 828 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:28,400 So, Luigi was a supervisor of case work in DSS, and on July 2018, she was struck by the vehicle on Martin Luther King, 829 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:34,640 in Bolhar, she ended up with a serious injury, sustaining injuries to her neck, full of 830 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:41,780 wrists, full shoulders, left hip, right knee, and back. She ended up suing the individuals 831 00:51:41,780 --> 00:51:47,480 that struck her, their lawyer, which was the city of White Plains, or I'm sorry, the person 832 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,980 in trouble was an independent contract there. The city of White Plains pointed out that the settlement 833 00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:59,840 was for 1.2 million, and the county recovered the workers' compounds from that, which 834 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:06,100 both resolved the future lean and reduced to a degree that the future ongoing benefits. 835 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,680 But there's still obligations going forward for financial obligations. 836 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,020 The ongoing financial obligations in a situation like that are not extinguished. 837 00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:21,140 There's a percentage of the future surgeries, et cetera. 838 00:52:21,140 --> 00:52:24,000 that is reduced by a certain proportion. 839 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,100 This is the Burns calculation, but essentially, 840 00:52:27,620 --> 00:52:29,460 every time she gets additional medical treatment, 841 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,400 we would be responsible for it on a non-violent debate 842 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,660 until the extra money that she received 843 00:52:35,660 --> 00:52:37,800 from the original settlement was always English. 844 00:52:38,820 --> 00:52:38,820 Okay, 845 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,600 so, going to the, 846 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,280 all right, so this is on page three, 847 00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:48,940 they're now disputing whether, 848 00:52:48,940 --> 00:52:59,540 So, in the workers' compensation claim, the county and D.G. are disputing whether the primary incident permanently disabled her and if so, the what the great. 849 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:17,520 As with all litigation, it's unclear how this defeat will result, our third party administrator triad group estimates that the award will likely be a 70% loss of wage earning capacity, which would entitle her to 400 weeks with no additional offsets. 850 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:25,640 would be able to award itself would be approximately $312.70 per week, which does include the 851 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:32,380 offset. And then using these figures, the reserve on this matter is $125,000 and $80. 852 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:38,840 With a discount rate of 5%, how many estimates the net present value of that reserve would 853 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:47,780 of $21,800,000, and then we receive a, oh and sorry, so the next part would be the future medical 854 00:53:47,780 --> 00:53:55,480 expenses. We've been medical expenses. The system requires us to fund it sufficiently for the 855 00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,640 anticipated amount. Triad is a general manager, it recommends accepting these deals because 856 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:06,740 as we see medical expenses constantly increased, but we're still obligated to put in a fair amount. 857 00:54:06,740 --> 00:54:12,340 So there's not really the savings here, but assuming the costs of 858 00:54:12,340 --> 00:54:16,520 the annual expenses is avoided over doing anger for life, we would be saving those 859 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:17,180 expenses. 860 00:54:18,340 --> 00:54:22,980 And that's set for down in the paragraph under the heading due for medical expenses. 861 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:30,340 So turning to the proposed settlement itself, we've been presented with a proposed settlement 862 00:54:30,340 --> 00:54:36,660 for 52,000 or more than $43.5, and includes a lump sum payment to extinguish the 863 00:54:36,660 --> 00:54:42,620 on these obligations for future enmity payments and medical reimbursements, efficiently try 864 00:54:42,620 --> 00:54:46,800 and some contract there for setting up Medicaid set aside quotes and I say I have a good 865 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,140 LLC. It's confirmed that the matter does not require approval for the Centers of Medicare 866 00:54:51,140 --> 00:54:53,900 and Medicare. When we meet that approval, we bet it. 867 00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:57,460 52,000, $1,400, $3. 868 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:18,200 On page 4, you can see that the total exposure, which is the indemnity and the medical total, 149,556 dollars, 12 cents. It's an estimate. So approximately 150, the proposed settlement is 52,400 dollars and 10 cents. 869 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,740 to the same, which is substantial, 870 00:55:20,340 --> 00:55:22,780 907,000, 903 dollars, please. 871 00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:29,720 So if a good day after a different boatboard approved, 872 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,920 I'll let Triad know and they'll, 873 00:55:32,660 --> 00:55:33,600 a good year to the current. 874 00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:36,200 We have the whole team in the message of none of you. 875 00:55:36,380 --> 00:55:36,860 Thank you, Mr. Chad. 876 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,260 I'm just trying to get sure I understand. 877 00:55:38,420 --> 00:55:41,740 So there was a settlement for 1.2, 878 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,760 with Align who stayed, 879 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:44,840 it would have been a good one. 880 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,200 I'd have to be with white plain, 881 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,240 but it was also with the driver of the vehicle. 882 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,380 So when somebody gets hurt, 883 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,580 who's a county employee, 884 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,160 the workers compensation system kicks in essentially immediately 885 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,120 to make sure that an individual isn't left hanging 886 00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,940 for years while litigation proceeds, 887 00:56:00,860 --> 00:56:04,480 during the presumption is that it's the employer's fault here, 888 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:04,920 the county. 889 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,700 When there's a lawsuit and essentially fault is determined 890 00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:13,200 as regards a third party, then the county is able to recover 891 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,160 against those proceeds, 892 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:20,060 because what it what it informs is that the employer is not involved in another party. 893 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,660 So the county is essentially fronting the money, and then when they recover as against 894 00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:28,180 the third party, when you recover, but the county still has obligation under the work 895 00:56:28,180 --> 00:56:33,260 of her compensation system, even after the settlement as against the third party. 896 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,500 Even though the settlement doesn't suit me because of the question of whether it's 897 00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:42,240 probably safe if his result just came after the settlement though, it's even if it came 898 00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:48,400 for this settlement. So you would have, so the workers compensation system also creates a system 899 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:54,220 by which you cannot sue your employer absent like a major injury. So if you were in the elevator 900 00:56:54,220 --> 00:57:00,600 coming up to the committee meeting today and the elevator broke and you were an employee of the county, 901 00:57:01,060 --> 00:57:06,060 you could, you couldn't sue the county unless something terrible and catastrophic occurred. So 902 00:57:06,060 --> 00:57:07,980 you lost an army but sue the county. 903 00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,180 No, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to, 904 00:57:10,180 --> 00:57:14,000 as a non-goer, I'm just trying to understand 905 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,120 and clarify my own mind how the settlement impacts 906 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,180 just permanently, there was a settlement before, 907 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,040 because even when we're at the control of this building, 908 00:57:22,940 --> 00:57:25,000 so how does that relate to the original settlement? 909 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,460 The, there are two separate tracks. 910 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,840 So if the workers' compensation system didn't exist, 911 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,820 the county would have been sued at the same time 912 00:57:35,820 --> 00:57:37,140 that the city of White Plains was, 913 00:57:37,460 --> 00:57:39,460 and the county would have had to put into that settlement. 914 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,580 So it could have been a $2 million settlement, 915 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,080 and that would have been extinguished. 916 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,740 The workers' compensation procedure 917 00:57:46,460 --> 00:57:48,360 supplants the normal litigation, 918 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,980 and so we weren't part of that one $2 million, 919 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,320 and so, but our liability is resolved 920 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,120 through the workers' compensation system, 921 00:57:56,340 --> 00:57:57,820 which is just a separate track. 922 00:57:57,900 --> 00:57:59,600 To the degree they influence each other, 923 00:57:59,940 --> 00:58:01,420 they create certain offsets, 924 00:58:01,420 --> 00:58:12,760 But those offsets are established by systems and tend to favor the worker to put money in their pocket at an immediate basis with a lot of the offsets deferred. 925 00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:19,200 So it's $50,000 that is dealt with itself, right? So because of the cost of the cost of the $50,000 they can't do some liability. 926 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,360 I'm just trying to... 927 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,360 Yeah, it's not. 928 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:33,380 So I'm not by the belief, that's the right way because it's not 100% normal for what I do. 929 00:58:33,540 --> 00:58:34,260 Thank you. 930 00:58:34,260 --> 00:58:35,560 Well, there's a number here. 931 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:36,340 Thank you. 932 00:58:36,860 --> 00:58:37,720 So a little bit of that. 933 00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:39,520 It says the accident happened new. 934 00:58:40,540 --> 00:58:41,400 Is that why? 935 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,780 So it happened at 8 p.m. a night when the work there is done. 936 00:58:45,140 --> 00:58:47,160 Would the county still be involved in that situation? 937 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,060 Or is that just kind of like, it's not no longer working with work with stop. 938 00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:50,780 That's a situation. 939 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:56,620 It would depend, well first off, so there's different departments that have a different system. 940 00:58:56,620 --> 00:59:26,020 So county police officers, for instance, have additional protections to a 7C. So if we're talking about what the liability would be, it would be a different. So for DSS worker, it would be strictly comp and the requirement of comp is that you are acting within the scope of your employee with, you know, certain enlargements. I believe it covers coming in and out in one time work. Some DSS workers have to make house appointments to late hours. If it was, you know, so it's not necessarily the hour of the day. 941 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:31,820 But this person was basically on still, and working, and that this happened, so that's why. 942 00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:36,120 Yeah, I believe they went to court and coming back across the city when they got struck. 943 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,020 So it was within the school for their boy. 944 00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:47,400 And we have a administrator of our worker's compensation fund, Triad, who's very steep in making sure that the, 945 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,080 that the original incident occurred within the school of one's employment. 946 00:59:51,340 --> 00:59:52,720 Sometimes people could get hurt. 947 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,380 on the weekend, try to be there's, there's, there's. 948 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,780 There's a strict level of review on that. But again, that was something that was resolved in 2018. 949 01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:11,000 Right. It sounds traumatic for this personal, unfortunately. Second question is, why would 950 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:17,040 there, there are more except such a low, why would they make such a low proposed settlement? I mean, 951 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:23,820 27th, basically 52,000, potentially three times as much. There's a certain amount of delay. Well, 952 01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:30,360 There's the, our calculation with respect to the likelihood of an award is our best estimate. 953 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,440 It's possible that his estimate is different, it's different. 954 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:43,060 The sum folks also, you know, with treatment, it's unclear the, you make your best estimate as to what future treatment looks like. 955 01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:52,520 Maybe she's aware that she's reached the end of her treatment and all we can really go on to calculate is the past, you know, treatment profile and maybe she needs the money. 956 01:00:52,520 --> 01:01:03,380 So there's the county tends not to agree to these sorts of section 32 settlements unless it was us because there's a certain amount of administrative time that goes into them and there's a certain amount of delay too. 957 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:17,220 So if it takes four weeks before the board can be used to approve it and then provide the information over to try it and then go through its administrative requirements before the money actually changes hands. 958 01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:23,220 those are weeks in which the individual is receiving their weekly workers' 959 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:28,040 conference, which is a couple hundred bucks. So there tends to be a built-in 960 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,640 a little cushion into these as well, knowing that there's such a lag time, so the 961 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:36,420 numbers sometimes support down at the proposed settlement, they kind of justify the lag. 962 01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:41,060 And this is the strategic 2008. If we agree to this, this is the end of it from ours from 963 01:01:41,060 --> 01:01:43,500 I have a question. Thank you. 964 01:01:44,220 --> 01:01:46,160 Any other questions or comments? 965 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:46,800 Any other questions or comments? 966 01:01:47,780 --> 01:01:47,960 What is that? 967 01:01:48,940 --> 01:01:51,580 All of us are saying motions for the side of the meeting. 968 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:52,680 The motions? 969 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,760 I have the second. All in favour? 970 01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:56,620 Yes. Any opposed? 971 01:01:57,380 --> 01:01:58,640 All right. The eyes have it for being in it. 972 01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,460 Enjoy the motion, please. 973 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,180 I'm looking forward to that. 974 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:03,880 But like so, and then we are saying, 975 01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:06,880 like so, we're going to be showing some. 976 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,080 Will you give me for all in favour? 977 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:18,480 Yes, yes, yes, yes, have it. Thank you so much John in the stream if I make sure for me join motion for adjournment and can be on the case. 978 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,820 Well, so we're going to answer the second. 979 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:29,480 We're voting in favor of adjournment on favor by any of my guests. We are adjourned. 980 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,080 Okay. 981 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,220 I was a chair, I'd also like to go. 982 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:33,540 Yes. 983 01:02:33,740 --> 01:02:34,560 Social services, 984 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:35,280 lots of movies, 985 01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:38,640 and I think it's continuing the same 986 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:39,700 in 2004, 987 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,220 those four items, 988 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:41,880 one. 989 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,060 Yes, sir. 990 01:02:43,140 --> 01:02:44,800 I'll take the motion to me, chairman. 991 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:45,820 Sir, please. 992 01:02:46,460 --> 01:02:46,600 Thank you. 993 01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:49,940 Thank you. 994 01:02:49,940 --> 01:02:50,220 Hi. 995 01:02:51,340 --> 01:02:52,060 I was a trainer, 996 01:02:52,380 --> 01:02:52,860 11.16. 997 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,180 About the right. 998 01:02:54,780 --> 01:02:54,920 Then, 999 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,310 and we moved on to 1000 01:02:57,980 --> 01:02:59,060 item 377. 1001 01:02:59,060 --> 01:03:10,660 Thank you, but we have our DFT online, Yomi, I know you introduced yourselves for the record. 1002 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,480 Or so, dive into item 377. 1003 01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:18,480 Is that SPK 12? 1004 01:03:19,660 --> 01:03:20,040 Yes. 1005 01:03:21,060 --> 01:03:21,400 He's good. 1006 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:22,520 Okay. 1007 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:23,220 Okay, 1008 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:40,180 so we are asking for $4.29 million, this is for basically for construction money for this is for the peak scale, plant the primary sludge system upgrade. 1009 01:03:43,340 --> 01:03:48,360 There are, it's the replace base to the Asian primary sludge piston pumps. 1010 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:56,820 We should try about 200 pumps and a reasonable control equipment above the ground to avoid damage if the slots pumps were failed. 1011 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:05,660 So, I think you have the estimate there, the total project is 5.79 million. 1012 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:16,900 The construction end, again, you know, is lower because we have, in this total course, we have design DSDC and construction admin. 1013 01:04:19,140 --> 01:04:26,340 And again, this is, we had, it's for the primary sledge of public system and the Eurasian tank in Florida bypass. 1014 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,120 I'll open it up for questions from members. 1015 01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:43,390 Let's get serious. 1016 01:04:44,290 --> 01:04:50,930 Yes, hi, a general question. Obviously, we know that it's really important for us to stay on top of all of this. 1017 01:04:50,930 --> 01:04:57,550 made in Scotland. Every single one of these plants, different parts, are getting replaced at any given time. 1018 01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:59,610 How about the cost in general then? 1019 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,220 I mean, you know, you would see like maybe a three or four percent increase per year, but it's been going a lot higher than that, especially on electrical equipment, it's very high, maybe you're seeing a percent increase per year and lead times, especially, again, the less for equipment is very long, so things are getting very expensive. 1020 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:45,980 That's why we try to get these things out, you know, and done as soon as possible, try to get the design done, push it through every year it gets delayed, we're adding on, you know, could be millions of dollars. 1021 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:58,260 Do we, I assume you guys have a generalized cost plan for how much oil and cost to upgrade all of these facilities over a period of time. 1022 01:05:58,660 --> 01:06:01,340 Is there a way you can share that with us? 1023 01:06:01,460 --> 01:06:03,880 So we can get a sense of what this looks like. 1024 01:06:03,900 --> 01:06:08,660 Well, we do have, we do have our five year, you know, capital plan. 1025 01:06:08,660 --> 01:06:16,080 and it lays out, again, pre-aprojects that we're looking out for the next five years, and 1026 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:23,220 there are estimates, of course, that's all I really are right now, of estimates of what those items are, 1027 01:06:23,260 --> 01:06:24,100 you know, or could be. 1028 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:30,500 But they should be getting what we're going into budget season this year, and I think you should have that, 1029 01:06:30,500 --> 01:06:35,200 you know, we're ready, but yeah, that kind of lays everything out for, again, for the next five years. 1030 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,820 I think I am in a budget of finalizing that. I don't know if they have it yet, but they'll be getting it soon. 1031 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,880 Okay. I mean, obviously these numbers are changing. 1032 01:06:44,060 --> 01:06:46,820 Yes. Yes, I mean, estimates. Yes, some of us in some cases. 1033 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:47,900 Yes, I guess. 1034 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:54,280 Just having a sense of what this means overall for how we look at it, especially as a cost of money, might continue to get hired, 1035 01:06:54,820 --> 01:06:58,100 what this all looks like going forward for us. 1036 01:07:01,180 --> 01:07:11,500 And we look at, and we do definitely prioritize, you know, like, we do every, every, every year, we prioritize the projects in matter of importance. 1037 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,060 Ready to get those done, you know, center. 1038 01:07:14,380 --> 01:07:14,860 Superb. 1039 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:15,940 You're welcome. 1040 01:07:17,020 --> 01:07:18,680 All right, well, thank you very much. 1041 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,580 I'm like, thank you for the appears. 1042 01:07:22,380 --> 01:07:25,160 Any other questions or comments from committee members? 1043 01:07:26,060 --> 01:07:28,340 That's an interesting motion for V&A. 1044 01:07:28,540 --> 01:07:28,780 We'll do this. 1045 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:29,360 Sorry. 1046 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,180 We have a motion in a second 4377. 1047 01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:34,580 All of the things. 1048 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,140 I guess maybe a boat. 1049 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,140 The eyes have a program in it. 1050 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,900 And can I have a motion for infrastructure? 1051 01:07:41,260 --> 01:07:41,480 So. 1052 01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:42,760 Thank you. 1053 01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:43,260 Thank you both. 1054 01:07:43,620 --> 01:07:44,060 All in favor. 1055 01:07:45,380 --> 01:07:45,920 Any other tools? 1056 01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:48,580 I said I said. 1057 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,500 We move on to 389. 1058 01:07:54,940 --> 01:08:00,300 the Yacht and the Throne, race, resource, and vocabulary for children. 1059 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:08,300 This is the IT Linux, I don't know if you want to. 1060 01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:09,860 Oh, yes, I'm sorry. 1061 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,620 Good morning, Linux, Harris Deputy CIO. 1062 01:08:14,500 --> 01:08:21,220 So this project is to essentially upgrade the existing facility with 1063 01:08:21,220 --> 01:08:26,920 five-hour cabling network equipment to support of this particular facility. 1064 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:29,460 I don't know if you remember. 1065 01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:35,560 This facility was heavily damaged during Superstorm Sandy from 2012, 1066 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:42,500 so there hasn't really been any major renovation work to upgrade the facility. 1067 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:48,440 So right at that point that we need to replace the infrastructure there to 1068 01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:55,060 bring that particular plant up to speed, as well as to be prepared for any impending 1069 01:08:55,060 --> 01:09:01,400 sovereign security threats, since that's a major initiative to protect our water system. 1070 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:07,540 So that's essentially what we're looking for this funding to do to help bring that plant 1071 01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:11,640 into compliance with our sovereign security goals. 1072 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:13,820 Yeah, thank you for that. 1073 01:09:13,820 --> 01:09:19,070 I was my one question specifically about the cybersecurity of reach and the focus there. 1074 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,820 I don't have any other thought of questions. 1075 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,060 This is, I am really not number eight. 1076 01:09:29,580 --> 01:09:30,080 Let's look at the number. 1077 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:31,070 Thank you. 1078 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,620 So this sounds very important and necessary. 1079 01:09:36,260 --> 01:09:38,180 Are we doing this for all our facilities? 1080 01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:40,360 Or is this the first of the facility? 1081 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:46,080 just looked to have a plan of this whole cybersecurity protection. We, I think you heard a couple 1082 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:51,020 of weeks ago that there was another place that had just been on to go on the, um... 1083 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:09,800 And then the threat of basically being taken over slowly. And so do we have a plan for all of our, especially in the water treatment facilities? 1084 01:10:10,340 --> 01:10:24,740 Yes. Well, this is, this will be one of many. So essentially we'll be looking at all of them across the board. But this is one of the larger facilities. So it's going to require a lot of work. So that's the reason why this one is being addressed. 1085 01:10:24,740 --> 01:10:32,040 Right. And so right now it says six months, is there any protection that the plan has right now? 1086 01:10:32,220 --> 01:10:36,740 From service. Yes. Yes it does. Okay. Right. Thank you. 1087 01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:41,760 Right. Thank you. Let's say none of you are any other questions or Mr. Harris. 1088 01:10:42,940 --> 01:10:44,740 There's no. I'm saying motion's for being late. 1089 01:10:45,940 --> 01:10:48,700 I'm sorry. We have a motion and it's second. 1090 01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:53,920 to the three in a hole in favor, hi. Any opposed? 1091 01:10:54,820 --> 01:10:55,700 Yeah, I said. 1092 01:10:56,740 --> 01:11:00,120 Um, before I take the situation, I'm not really smart to you. 1093 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:01,080 But because I didn't. 1094 01:11:01,420 --> 01:11:03,280 Oh, yes, please, yes, please, yes, I'm going to show it. 1095 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:04,980 And I'm just going to let you know. 1096 01:11:04,980 --> 01:11:05,160 So. 1097 01:11:06,220 --> 01:11:06,660 Secondary. 1098 01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:07,080 Hello. 1099 01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:08,300 Hi. 1100 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:08,920 Hi. 1101 01:11:11,620 --> 01:11:12,500 Thank you. 1102 01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:12,760 Thank you. 1103 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,700 Thank you. 1104 01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:19,700 The amended bond Act 379 regarding the peace field of the college. 1105 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,060 You have Neil, can I submit? 1106 01:11:25,860 --> 01:11:26,540 Please, can I submit? 1107 01:11:26,740 --> 01:11:26,940 Thank you. 1108 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:28,220 Please join us at the table. 1109 01:11:36,470 --> 01:11:36,610 All right. 1110 01:11:36,730 --> 01:11:37,590 Please, if you should. 1111 01:11:38,050 --> 01:11:38,330 Thank you. 1112 01:11:38,430 --> 01:11:38,650 Yeah. 1113 01:11:38,910 --> 01:11:39,210 Patson. 1114 01:11:39,490 --> 01:11:39,950 Commissioner. 1115 01:11:40,430 --> 01:11:42,630 I'm going to public books and transfer patients. 1116 01:11:43,190 --> 01:11:45,690 I'd like to introduce my colleague, Robert Abamont. 1117 01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:46,930 This is going to be presenting. 1118 01:11:47,650 --> 01:11:48,730 Good morning, everyone. 1119 01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:49,570 All right. 1120 01:11:49,710 --> 01:11:49,890 Thank you. 1121 01:11:51,190 --> 01:11:56,730 If I may begin, this is, as you mentioned, this is for capital project B0116 infrastructure 1122 01:11:56,730 --> 01:11:58,970 rehabilitation at the Peaksville District Office. 1123 01:11:59,990 --> 01:12:05,250 We're asking for an additional $2.5 million which represents construction and construction 1124 01:12:06,350 --> 01:12:10,370 management for the replacement of the windows and the doors at the facility. 1125 01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:15,510 Basically they were original, they were over 30 years old, but they were original to the building. 1126 01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:25,890 They are a single pain windows and doors, but replace them with the new windows and store funds. 1127 01:12:26,150 --> 01:12:31,390 The doors will be, well, we call thermally broken frames, so there's no conduction transfer. 1128 01:12:32,250 --> 01:12:40,090 Low EW glazed glass, the dissolved provides improved energy efficiencies and therefore enhanced. 1129 01:12:40,090 --> 01:12:46,850 You know the building's performance just a general overview there's the the windows that you see on the building 1130 01:12:47,450 --> 01:12:51,970 They're well past their service life and I said again, but they're single-pain 1131 01:12:57,250 --> 01:13:05,390 Designed was currently undertaken by a consultant we anticipate that it'd be completed by the end of this quarter in September 1132 01:13:05,390 --> 01:13:11,530 The expected construction is about nine months, but once we have the funding in place, we 1133 01:13:11,530 --> 01:13:17,590 go out and request the authority to bid and then prepare the documents and bid them. 1134 01:13:18,270 --> 01:13:26,250 All right, and if we support this item, this will obviously lead me out of the organization 1135 01:13:26,250 --> 01:13:29,610 effort here, we won't see anything in the future. 1136 01:13:29,610 --> 01:13:31,730 There's already the P-Skill District office. 1137 01:13:32,970 --> 01:13:38,310 There's not at this time there's nothing else I think currently program for the building. 1138 01:13:38,730 --> 01:13:41,730 We always every year would review our five-year capital program. 1139 01:13:42,310 --> 01:13:43,710 We do look at all our facilities. 1140 01:13:44,610 --> 01:13:48,110 We intend to usually try to bring in a project in the 50 year, 1141 01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:49,270 and then have it move forward. 1142 01:13:49,490 --> 01:13:53,370 Right now this is the only project I have scheduled for the building. 1143 01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:54,090 Okay. 1144 01:13:55,490 --> 01:13:56,670 Any other questions? 1145 01:13:59,010 --> 01:14:02,770 There is a scene on, I'll take a lot of things. 1146 01:14:02,810 --> 01:14:03,850 There's no other scene. 1147 01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:10,010 But the second board, either 379, all the things are opposed to the ice out. 1148 01:14:10,830 --> 01:14:12,190 I have a motion for infrastructure. 1149 01:14:12,450 --> 01:14:12,910 So moved. 1150 01:14:13,090 --> 01:14:14,950 I'm a bigger. 1151 01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:17,590 And you're opposed? 1152 01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:21,010 I'm a little bit. 1153 01:14:21,490 --> 01:14:26,350 We're going to the next two items. 1154 01:14:26,350 --> 01:14:30,030 I've actually three, five, and three, and six, 1155 01:14:30,770 --> 01:14:33,870 a large vehicle's observation at the HALIS campus. 1156 01:14:34,270 --> 01:14:36,950 Yes, capital project B0122, 1157 01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:40,350 electrical substation SE21 at the HALIS campus. 1158 01:14:40,770 --> 01:14:42,450 This is a capital budget amendment 1159 01:14:42,450 --> 01:14:45,010 at additional funding to the project, 1160 01:14:45,050 --> 01:14:46,910 and then they are the associated bond 1161 01:14:46,910 --> 01:14:49,050 about $750,000. 1162 01:14:49,890 --> 01:14:52,790 Result bond was from $900,000 designed 1163 01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:59,090 It has begun and is expected to be completed this quarter, the project. 1164 01:15:02,500 --> 01:15:09,400 Here's the sunshine cottage. Here's the sunshine cottage building itself. The existing 1165 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,980 transformer, the existing substation is in the basement of a building, roughly located 1166 01:15:14,980 --> 01:15:25,180 here. It's hard to service. It's over 50 years old. We've had some experiences, 1167 01:15:26,180 --> 01:15:34,000 operational issues with the switch, this project we store redundancy, to the buildings connected 1168 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:41,880 to this feeder. This is one of the feeders that feeds the campus. It's a switch in transform. 1169 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:49,140 We planned the plan as to move it over here, right by this is the entrance here to basic science, 1170 01:15:49,140 --> 01:15:56,360 which is down here. So we take it out of the basement, we move it up a bug grade to this corner 1171 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,540 here. I can just show you a little bit more. 1172 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,020 The original intent of the project when it was 1173 01:16:05,020 --> 01:16:11,420 budgeted was just to have the switch and the transformer on a concrete pad is out in the open. 1174 01:16:11,940 --> 01:16:18,520 As the project got into design and for the discussion with both planning and other operational 1175 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:24,660 department. It was determined that it's better to be in a small, the switch should be in a small 1176 01:16:24,660 --> 01:16:31,580 building that made the pad larger and here's your transformer. Also there's now certain clearance 1177 01:16:31,580 --> 01:16:38,460 requirements that you need around this equipment. Putting the switch into the building also protects 1178 01:16:38,460 --> 01:16:45,760 it for various items. And one of the other comments then was okay now we should have a fence around 1179 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:52,280 it, and therefore also do some plantings and stuff to give you an idea, the pad itself, 1180 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:58,820 or the thing is 16 feet by 29 feet. And this is what basically increased the cost of the project. 1181 01:16:59,140 --> 01:17:05,840 One was originally conceived as just a simple pad mountain mountain facility piece of equipment 1182 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:12,140 to this, where we're now putting in a bit of a smaller structure on there, the fence seems 1183 01:17:12,140 --> 01:17:15,380 the landscaping and all that. 1184 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:19,380 I think I mentioned, and we're 1185 01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:21,220 expecting to finish the design this quarter 1186 01:17:21,220 --> 01:17:24,020 and the construction is about 12 months to complete. 1187 01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:27,680 That's why I'm pretty sure that's that. 1188 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:28,860 Unless that is all student. 1189 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:29,520 That would. 1190 01:17:29,980 --> 01:17:33,720 I just have one quick question about the previous ones 1191 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,860 that we informed it or authorized the $9,000. 1192 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:37,620 Mm-hmm. 1193 01:17:37,740 --> 01:17:40,120 In the packet that bogged that of much of the $20,000 1194 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,800 which is on the issue that we're going to use for. 1195 01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:56,720 We thought used the design portions, so there's about 750 remaining for construction plus this 750 that gives us the 1.5 which that's what the estimate shown. 1196 01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:04,140 This 770 product that's left from the 900 is that still going to go to the worst design and we done with design. 1197 01:18:04,180 --> 01:18:08,180 I don't know that the original 900 was both design and construction. 1198 01:18:08,180 --> 01:18:17,380 Okay. So we've only expanded a portion of the design. There's 750 remaining. This air, the additional 750. 1199 01:18:18,980 --> 01:18:23,600 We're also carrying some of the conversations we've had in the past. 1200 01:18:23,900 --> 01:18:31,420 In this particular estimate, we are carrying escalation factor quite large about 20%. 1201 01:18:31,420 --> 01:18:37,800 You know, and it's it's a to make sure we have enough funding and we go out to the market. 1202 01:18:39,820 --> 01:18:41,180 Let's let it be your show. 1203 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:42,780 Just 20 percent. 1204 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,500 20 percent, I think we have MW in there. 1205 01:18:47,660 --> 01:18:49,000 I think we might have some contingency. 1206 01:18:49,220 --> 01:18:49,940 I haven't tried it. 1207 01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:56,240 Any other questions or comments? 1208 01:18:58,900 --> 01:19:01,500 So we discussed 385 and 386 together, 1209 01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:05,160 but we'll vote on them separately. So four, three, five, do I have motions? 1210 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,660 Well actually, I would retract that statement actually. 1211 01:19:13,820 --> 01:19:15,600 We can take them together. Yes, my apologies. 1212 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,340 So we'll take three, five and three, six together. 1213 01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:22,120 We have a motion in a second. Both. All in favor. 1214 01:19:22,740 --> 01:19:23,960 Hi. Any opposed? 1215 01:19:26,180 --> 01:19:29,000 Yeah, I get a motion for any questions. 1216 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:39,080 And I just want to indicate to the record we've been joined by Legislative of Laura. 1217 01:19:39,260 --> 01:19:39,600 Thank you. 1218 01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:41,000 Thank you. 1219 01:19:44,460 --> 01:19:44,700 Okay. 1220 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:46,740 All right. 1221 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,600 So that's 385 and 380. 1222 01:19:49,660 --> 01:19:56,200 We move on to 387, a amended, amended bond act regarding generator systems. 1223 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,640 You can place it at the grasslands campus. 1224 01:20:01,460 --> 01:20:17,180 Okay, yes, this project is the first phase several on that as a program. We've done the design. The request is to add an additional 3.52 million dollars to the funding that's already been approved for the design. 1225 01:20:17,180 --> 01:20:22,920 This would define its construction and construction management, replace the existing generators, 1226 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:28,500 the associated fuel tanks, the equipment, at three locations, up at the Grassland's campus, 1227 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:37,520 the DLC F Unit, which is a 300 kilowatt generator, the DLC H Block, which has a 500 kilowatt generator, 1228 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,580 and the GL-Annex, which has a 250 kilowatt generator. 1229 01:20:41,580 --> 01:20:50,360 These all were about 34 years old, they all were installed in 1992, so they passed their service life. 1230 01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:54,400 The design is currently underway by in-house staff, 1231 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,580 expect to complete that in the fourth quarter of the 26th. 1232 01:20:58,380 --> 01:21:01,980 Construction is expected to take about 36 months. 1233 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:07,460 That's including the long lead items for the generators themselves. 1234 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:17,420 We did escalate the estimate of what we had, which we got coffee's up. 1235 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:23,860 We did escalate it out to the midpoint of construction in 2028. 1236 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,300 That's some additional funds. 1237 01:21:25,940 --> 01:21:28,940 And we always carry our contingencies in there. 1238 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,740 These have said this is the FUN generator. 1239 01:21:33,300 --> 01:21:34,540 It's the inside of everything. 1240 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,380 This is the H-Box generator. 1241 01:21:37,380 --> 01:21:49,390 There's a large generator and then the smaller of them is the the annex and then associated few texts that we have for these. 1242 01:21:52,850 --> 01:21:54,450 Okay, and 1243 01:21:54,450 --> 01:21:58,130 So there's so be 36 more 1244 01:21:58,130 --> 01:21:59,850 construction timeline. 1245 01:22:00,450 --> 01:22:03,370 The emerges you back up power, right? 1246 01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:07,710 Well, they're functioning. 1247 01:22:08,670 --> 01:22:09,270 So we, 1248 01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:38,860 Yeah, and obviously, you know, we put it in the equipment, we face how we switch a minute now, and a lot of times too now when we put emergency generators in, we also provide a additional capability that if you had to, when you have facilities like this, you could always bring up a trailer mounted generator if that generator for some reason, like that's the spender, you know, 1249 01:22:38,860 --> 01:22:45,780 It's set up that you can bring a trail amount to 10th their reader and connect it to the page. 1250 01:22:45,940 --> 01:22:48,540 The worst power, we lost it to generator. That's the full. 1251 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,080 Understood. Thank you. 1252 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,260 Let's zoom gears. 1253 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,400 I know you mentioned that there is a cost estimate. 1254 01:22:55,580 --> 01:22:57,460 I don't seem to have it in my fair. 1255 01:22:57,980 --> 01:22:58,860 Just missing it. 1256 01:22:59,600 --> 01:22:59,920 I heard it. 1257 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,840 So that was first question. 1258 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,880 And obviously we're hearing about the increase in cost for electrical items. 1259 01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:26,060 So I'm assuming generators are a major one unless I think we've seen that at the table before our other generator project. So I'm curious about that and I'm wondering how much of that 36 week or 36 month lead time is actually lead time on ordering the generator. 1260 01:23:26,580 --> 01:23:30,500 So those are, I think that I have to fight that on the time in the generators. 1261 01:23:31,140 --> 01:23:33,240 I'm going to incorporate it into that 36th. 1262 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,020 I feel your previous question. 1263 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,160 We are including escalation and contingency. 1264 01:23:39,180 --> 01:23:41,260 And then I did, I said, raise it. 1265 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:45,320 The escalation and the contingency is close to 25%. 1266 01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,060 Originally, I bumped that up again. 1267 01:23:49,460 --> 01:23:50,900 So the point of construction. 1268 01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:53,840 The estimate was, uh, prepared. 1269 01:23:54,500 --> 01:24:02,440 beginning of the year. So, you know, that's why, then we, the, and then I escalated it out recently to midpoint of construction. 1270 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:09,420 Can we get a copy of your original estimate and now your new updated because of the state of the work? 1271 01:24:09,440 --> 01:24:12,720 Yeah, it's, it's all in that package if you need to get it out. 1272 01:24:13,540 --> 01:24:16,020 I think it's coming to us right now. 1273 01:24:17,660 --> 01:24:21,800 You'll see there's like a summary page and then the backup. 1274 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,220 Thank you. 1275 01:24:25,700 --> 01:24:28,700 So each generator has its own page. 1276 01:24:29,820 --> 01:24:33,120 If you look towards the bottom, I think there's highlighted both both. 1277 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:41,320 By the construction total, you can see just above where I have the construction total is the contingencies and escalation originally. 1278 01:24:44,340 --> 01:24:45,420 And then 1279 01:24:48,490 --> 01:24:54,970 carry that information over to the summary sheet where you see I added an additional 1280 01:24:54,970 --> 01:24:56,810 5% per year. 1281 01:25:05,490 --> 01:25:20,810 I'm just seeing this for the first time. This is the total uneducated non-engineer question. One of the things is, there is not a fixed ratio between the concept of the generator and the amount of extra work that needs to be done in order to support that generator. 1282 01:25:20,810 --> 01:25:28,330 So, like, for example, can you explain kind of what that looks like and why and some things? 1283 01:25:28,330 --> 01:25:32,110 It's easier to cite, like, if you look at this site here to cite, obviously, a smaller. 1284 01:25:33,550 --> 01:25:35,490 And it has a standalone tank. 1285 01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:40,910 But then when you get into, like, the larger generators, the size of the generators, 1286 01:25:41,870 --> 01:25:43,070 slow down a little bit more. 1287 01:25:43,210 --> 01:25:47,210 It's kind of like pre-packaged building units and stuff. 1288 01:25:47,210 --> 01:25:53,050 So they're due to the size, the amounts of cagling and conduit and the size of the tanks. 1289 01:25:53,410 --> 01:25:56,810 You're getting more and you're having, and yeah, yeah. 1290 01:25:58,940 --> 01:26:03,140 Okay, thank you. Sorry for the food. 1291 01:26:04,260 --> 01:26:06,100 No, no, no, no, no. 1292 01:26:06,900 --> 01:26:07,360 Great work. 1293 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:17,180 We'll be fine. I can, you know, what the currently time is, I can get back to you. 1294 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:18,820 Great. Thank you. Appreciate that. 1295 01:26:22,270 --> 01:26:26,510 I'll make a motion. 1296 01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:27,250 Okay. 1297 01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:28,530 Second. 1298 01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:29,150 Second. 1299 01:26:30,150 --> 01:26:32,110 All on paper Friday 3-7. 1300 01:26:32,910 --> 01:26:33,270 I can. 1301 01:26:33,490 --> 01:26:33,710 Yes. 1302 01:26:35,970 --> 01:26:36,590 Second. 1303 01:26:38,670 --> 01:26:40,830 I don't think you both all in favor. 1304 01:26:41,410 --> 01:26:41,730 All right. 1305 01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:42,570 Any thoughts? 1306 01:26:45,250 --> 01:26:45,870 Thank you. 1307 01:26:46,070 --> 01:26:46,390 Thank you. 1308 01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:47,670 You go to 3-2. 1309 01:26:49,230 --> 01:26:49,710 Thank you. 1310 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,280 Okay, yes, this is a capital project, 1311 01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:01,960 RBO-3, to take Renet Road over the Mayanis River in Beford. 1312 01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,980 We're looking to add an additional $4,800, 1313 01:27:04,980 --> 01:27:09,680 $60,000 to the money that's already been approved for design. 1314 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,920 The Renet Road Bridge in Beford project includes removal 1315 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,540 and replacement of the concrete slab of bridge. 1316 01:27:18,540 --> 01:27:25,420 And with a new print task concrete being bridged and supported by Pile, supported concrete 1317 01:27:25,420 --> 01:27:29,100 butments, installation of what are probably membrane and as well. 1318 01:27:29,180 --> 01:27:33,380 Waring service, bridge railings, and pavement markings are the related work. 1319 01:27:33,740 --> 01:27:39,800 The bridge has currently about a average annual daily traffic of about 1,000 vehicles in 1320 01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:46,720 2025 that was given a bridge conditioning rating of 4.07, like we normally like to dress bridges 1321 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:52,080 as they get the low-fly, design is currently underway by consulted and is expected to be completed 1322 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:59,340 in the fourth quarter of this year. Construction is approximately 18 months. And you can just 1323 01:27:59,340 --> 01:28:06,980 see the picture of the bridge here. You can see what's happening to the concrete slab. You can 1324 01:28:06,980 --> 01:28:14,770 three bar, some effervescence, again underneath, three bar. 1325 01:28:16,390 --> 01:28:21,570 Basically, we'll take that away, but then we'll pre-fab structure in place. 1326 01:28:22,130 --> 01:28:26,450 There's some of the apartments, you can see the old stone abutments. 1327 01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:29,130 There's some issues here along the guardrail. 1328 01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,560 Obviously, all this gets clearing, running, all this gets addressed. 1329 01:28:35,660 --> 01:28:36,360 We'll be through the project. 1330 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:47,200 You know, Ross, my question is, I just question each time we do a bridge. 1331 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,840 We get more and more. Yeah, it's in the mall. 1332 01:28:51,060 --> 01:28:52,640 I mean, traffic in that, right? 1333 01:28:53,940 --> 01:28:58,240 I'm not familiar with the area, so let's say it appears this is you. 1334 01:28:58,920 --> 01:28:59,760 Yeah, that's a great idea. 1335 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:01,660 That's a nice picture. 1336 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,840 Well, it's, I mean, it's where Connecticut and Bedford kind of intersect. 1337 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:12,100 And then the world of folks and ways and the Google maps and all the various ways of people 1338 01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:17,500 travel. It's not only local traffic. It's people cutting through. So yeah, it's, it's, 1339 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,660 I know we've been working on this project for a long time, design wise and getting 1340 01:29:20,660 --> 01:29:25,220 all the contracts in place because the temper easements and all sorts of stuff. 1341 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:27,200 It's been a time of making. 1342 01:29:28,820 --> 01:29:32,240 So you're like, I think, in this case, I mean, with the MPT, it's, you know, try to do half 1343 01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,520 the, you know, you keep it open, maybe one link, you know, we look at that. 1344 01:29:36,940 --> 01:29:41,700 And then obviously once we go out to construction, we do put notices of, you know, 1345 01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:47,160 to local communities, I think. It's a level that legislators usually get a notified of what 1346 01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:51,280 the project is starting in the MPC for that. 1347 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:17,800 My recollection from the design is that there will be a one-lane because we had to add a traffic light for the one in which was in doing a temporary, right? Right. Right. And so they had to go on to someone's property to put it, which is why I know that we do have this one-lane approach that will be happening there. 1348 01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,320 So it's going to work that. 1349 01:30:19,340 --> 01:30:24,440 OK, I don't think we have that at cost estimate for this. 1350 01:30:24,460 --> 01:30:26,340 Yeah, you're also going to test on. 1351 01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:28,380 Yeah, that's not what you hear about. 1352 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:29,180 Yeah, I know. 1353 01:30:29,480 --> 01:30:30,680 I thought that's what was going to happen. 1354 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:30,900 Yeah. 1355 01:30:35,970 --> 01:30:40,030 And of course, that's what's showing the construction right now. 1356 01:30:40,330 --> 01:30:45,030 And then to that, you see, you don't have that or you're dear. 1357 01:30:45,030 --> 01:31:02,750 You know, no, it's just, just, and I want to say thank you to everybody for, you know, working so closely with the residents on this. I know that this was, there were a lot. There was a lot. And, and I know everyone appreciated the county's attention and whatnot. 1358 01:31:04,250 --> 01:31:12,190 It's a very small bridge and yet it's very expensive and even though I've sat through a lot of these discussions and I know what this bridge looks like and I've driven it. 1359 01:31:12,350 --> 01:31:15,470 I am a bit shocked at the cost of the bridge. 1360 01:31:16,190 --> 01:31:20,090 Was this a surprise to us or did we always anticipate it was going to end up constantly? 1361 01:31:20,090 --> 01:31:22,310 I don't think, let me just quickly check something. 1362 01:31:22,630 --> 01:31:24,230 I think we are still. 1363 01:31:24,230 --> 01:31:26,210 Not in a men's. Oh, I know. 1364 01:31:26,770 --> 01:31:30,390 But still within our what we budget or back in 1365 01:31:32,010 --> 01:31:38,230 In 20 and 20, we did budget the original amount and then in 2020 we did a specific cost escalation. 1366 01:31:39,130 --> 01:31:39,410 Great. 1367 01:31:39,690 --> 01:31:40,630 But not got what. 1368 01:31:40,830 --> 01:31:42,190 But that's consent not going to. 1369 01:31:43,190 --> 01:31:43,610 Yeah. 1370 01:31:45,910 --> 01:31:47,590 So I really appreciate that. 1371 01:31:47,710 --> 01:31:51,050 So whoever has the the estimates that would be great. 1372 01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:56,560 What are they doing? 1373 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,320 So do we want to circle back to you? 1374 01:32:02,420 --> 01:32:07,500 Yes, I mean if we can wait and then you can avoid the idea without prejudices. 1375 01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:12,960 I mean, I think if you want it for now, I can actually bring it up on the screen. 1376 01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:14,760 Oh, that's great. 1377 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,020 Okay, I'm going to start. 1378 01:32:18,860 --> 01:32:20,420 I don't want to screw this up. 1379 01:32:20,580 --> 01:32:21,320 You got it? 1380 01:32:21,380 --> 01:32:22,660 We did get it. 1381 01:32:22,660 --> 01:32:23,760 Oh, okay, good. 1382 01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:25,680 Thank you, sir. 1383 01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:39,100 And this is also in a sensitive, environmentally sensitive area, just to add to this project being extra fun. 1384 01:32:47,810 --> 01:32:49,570 How close do you 1385 01:32:56,580 --> 01:32:57,140 think? 1386 01:32:58,680 --> 01:32:59,320 Yeah, 1387 01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,380 this is based on the 90% plan. 1388 01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,840 So, you know, right now, it's basically the final plan. 1389 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:10,840 See, is it take off? 1390 01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:16,280 Yes. 1391 01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:22,320 cost is 4.4 and bought is 4.8. Yeah I glued to we have to add construction management to that. 1392 01:33:26,460 --> 01:33:31,440 This is the construction estimate then add in the construction management. That'll 1393 01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:39,640 receive the project. That brings us to 4.25 with the original million when you total the 1394 01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,120 that'd be by that being 5,000,08050. 1395 01:33:42,900 --> 01:33:46,060 Is there actually a construction measure or 10%, 1396 01:33:46,060 --> 01:33:47,760 yeah, it depends on the project. 1397 01:33:49,220 --> 01:33:51,520 If we can go, like a road job, 1398 01:33:51,660 --> 01:33:55,600 we'll be anywhere from 8% to 10%. 1399 01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,320 D-EF, environmental facility jobs, 1400 01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:01,420 we've been doing more heavily with mechanical electrical systems. 1401 01:34:03,060 --> 01:34:08,080 They can get up into the 18% depending on the individual project. 1402 01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:14,040 And then of course that percentage which drop I guess the feet as I think the cost gets bigger 1403 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,100 You know, it then slides down 1404 01:34:23,850 --> 01:34:25,110 I'm 1405 01:34:27,570 --> 01:34:31,510 good unless some cases you know, yes, so much 1406 01:34:32,330 --> 01:34:37,810 You have the motion and a second for a 3D need all in favor 1407 01:34:37,810 --> 01:34:47,270 You guys have it for being a 1408 01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:49,250 All right. 1409 01:34:49,250 --> 01:34:50,450 Anyone who's going to post that? 1410 01:34:51,390 --> 01:34:52,490 Yeah, I think I got it. 1411 01:34:53,270 --> 01:34:54,570 All right, that was 38. 1412 01:34:54,770 --> 01:34:57,290 28 is going to move all in to 391. 1413 01:34:57,630 --> 01:34:58,470 I'm just going to read that. 1414 01:34:59,130 --> 01:34:59,850 Our record centers. 1415 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:10,540 Yes, this is addressing the HVAC-30 tun, HVAC-205 on the roof. We're asking for additional 2.5 million 1416 01:35:11,020 --> 01:35:20,780 the construction management. It replaces this 30 tun, HVAC-205 unit and all the other 1417 01:35:20,780 --> 01:35:27,360 way to work with it. The unit is about 33 years old. At the end of its use of life, the 1418 01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:31,440 new unit going in will be a heat pump type unit will have 1419 01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:37,410 valuable air volume control demand ventilation heat recovery built into that. 1420 01:35:38,580 --> 01:35:41,060 Again, it will tie into our BMS system. 1421 01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,920 So all these things improve the efficiency and 1422 01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:49,630 you know, an operation of the system compared to what was there. 1423 01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,360 Design is currently underway by consultant that's 1424 01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,900 to be completed in the third quarter of the year. 1425 01:35:56,460 --> 01:35:59,180 We think about nine months through the construction. 1426 01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:06,560 As we've mentioned before, this is one of several units. 1427 01:36:06,700 --> 01:36:08,700 This is the first unit we're playing to replace. 1428 01:36:09,420 --> 01:36:11,280 And future capital will be looking at the other 1429 01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,460 we've talked to you in this. 1430 01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:18,720 But the other units, I'm assuming, are around 30, 35 years. 1431 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:22,640 Yeah, they sort of different areas, different archive areas. 1432 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:26,520 So, to your question before when we're talking about peace kill, yes, we're getting do look 1433 01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:32,760 enough facilities, and then prioritize what we're going to understate the place. 1434 01:36:33,620 --> 01:36:36,560 They should have also received an estimate for this. 1435 01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:42,220 I'm just sorry, so the drawing pictures, I'm sorry, that's what the rooftop of your book 1436 01:36:42,220 --> 01:36:48,000 like, let's let them get their handling in it. 1437 01:36:56,860 --> 01:36:59,200 And again, it was, you know, 1438 01:36:59,500 --> 01:37:06,000 ejected out and we are asking for the full appropriation. 1439 01:37:06,100 --> 01:37:09,820 That's there. So that does give us a question. 1440 01:37:11,540 --> 01:37:14,120 And we did have contingencies there. 1441 01:37:14,860 --> 01:37:17,120 I don't know if you have the copy of the estimate. 1442 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:21,490 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1443 01:37:21,490 --> 01:37:22,570 Yeah, yeah. 1444 01:37:27,210 --> 01:37:29,290 It's all set and then it's 1445 01:37:41,260 --> 01:37:42,360 just about two seconds. 1446 01:37:53,710 --> 01:37:57,640 It's not just, all right, probably. 1447 01:37:57,880 --> 01:37:58,380 It better be myself. 1448 01:37:59,180 --> 01:38:05,480 Um, we have a motion's for three and I do one of our records and. 1449 01:38:05,580 --> 01:38:06,140 So what? 1450 01:38:07,220 --> 01:38:07,920 So that gets me. 1451 01:38:08,220 --> 01:38:08,980 Motion is second. 1452 01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:10,480 All in favor? 1453 01:38:11,020 --> 01:38:11,320 Uh-huh. 1454 01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:12,040 Any opposed? 1455 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:14,540 Do you guys have it for three and I do one? 1456 01:38:14,540 --> 01:38:18,080 And for infrastructure and housing. 1457 01:38:18,620 --> 01:38:18,800 Some. 1458 01:38:19,340 --> 01:38:19,760 That is. 1459 01:38:20,780 --> 01:38:21,600 That's it. 1460 01:38:21,780 --> 01:38:22,080 Your seconds. 1461 01:38:22,700 --> 01:38:23,260 Oh, favor. 1462 01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:23,820 Right. 1463 01:38:24,220 --> 01:38:25,060 Any opposed. 1464 01:38:25,380 --> 01:38:26,460 That's a bit. 1465 01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:27,660 And I've minutes. 1466 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:27,940 Yes. 1467 01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,620 Um, I've minutes for java. 1468 01:38:33,340 --> 01:38:33,840 I've. 1469 01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:34,260 Twenty seven. 1470 01:38:34,580 --> 01:38:35,380 Twenty six. 1471 01:38:36,660 --> 01:38:37,220 Twenty. 1472 01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:38,180 Um. 1473 01:38:38,980 --> 01:38:39,760 All the favor. 1474 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:40,680 All right. 1475 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:41,760 There goes. 1476 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:42,680 Minutes. 1477 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,460 Thank you all in favor. 1478 01:38:47,740 --> 01:38:49,160 We are adjourned at 11. 1479 01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:53,260 And I also had two sets of minutes from Monday to 1480 01:38:53,260 --> 01:38:54,440 Light 13th at 10 a.m. 1481 01:38:55,140 --> 01:38:57,160 To light 20th at 10 a.m. 1482 01:38:57,300 --> 01:38:58,520 I have a motion of a second. 1483 01:38:59,220 --> 01:39:00,200 All in favor. 1484 01:39:02,020 --> 01:39:02,980 All right. 1485 01:39:03,220 --> 01:39:03,820 And I'll take the motion. 1486 01:39:04,440 --> 01:39:06,400 Thank you. 1487 01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:08,480 Thank you. 1488 01:39:08,660 --> 01:39:09,980 Thank you. 1489 01:39:10,300 --> 01:39:11,140 All right. 1490 01:39:11,140 --> 01:39:14,900 have a motion or second floor in your head. All right, all of them. 1491 01:39:15,420 --> 01:39:16,660 Hi. Any thoughts? 1492 01:39:18,300 --> 01:39:20,660 All right. We, I sat at the camera box. 1493 01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:21,580 Thank you. Thank you. 1494 01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:25,060 I'm going to let it for for two minutes. Thank you all.