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[0:04] This meeting is being recorded and summarized.
[0:08] All right, good morning, everyone. I am glad to play with the saying is chair of the budget and appropriations committee.
[0:14] This is the first of the double letter today. So we'll see you as a leader at one o'clock.
[0:20] But we start out today all this starting first. It's in 13am.
[0:23] hand. I will start us out by facilitating a local vote. I am present obviously majority of all
[0:30] students present. Let's say they're not enough. Here. Let's say the fears.
[0:35] That's it. I'm going to invite you to be all present majority of Williams.
[0:38] Here. Let's say the one you have.
[0:40] And chairman got him.
[0:42] Right. We are open at 1014 a.
[0:46] I'll go to the next meeting.
[0:48] I'll open.
[0:50] Yes.
[0:51] In the infrastructure and housing, um,
[0:54] to need here.
[0:56] Nice chair,
[0:57] here's present.
[0:59] Let's see.
[1:00] Let's see.
[1:00] Let's see.
[1:02] Let's see.
[1:03] First.
[1:04] Thank you.
[1:04] We are open at 1014.
[1:07] Good.
[1:09] I mean.
[1:09] Excuse me.
[1:12] Okay.
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[1:17] services, specifically to the right.
[1:19] So it's time to go far.
[1:22] Um, release not here.
[1:24] Uh, in a separate browser.
[1:27] Um, and the English.
[1:29] Yeah.
[1:29] We'll send it in the comments.
[1:31] We'll send a picture.
[1:32] Yeah.
[1:33] Jammer.
[1:37] Yeah.
[1:38] I'll send it.
[1:38] I'll send it to the community.
[1:39] All right.
[1:40] Thank you.
[1:41] So, uh, the first trucks of items will be 3, 1, 3, 2, 3,
[1:46] three and three before we'll be taking those together before need relevant committees. And we have
[1:53] info to be through this, Mr. Beathers, Mr. Scott, and Mr. Rooney.
[2:04] On the first item, we've been going to discuss the environmental resolution
[2:09] the information.
[2:11] We're going to show the facility that
[2:13] Alases.
[2:14] Again, it's resolution CBA.
[2:16] Find that in the land acquisition piece.
[2:18] And gentlemen, thank you for doing this.
[2:20] It's morning.
[2:22] We start.
[2:23] Good morning.
[2:25] Mr. Chair, members of the committees.
[2:27] We're glad to be here.
[2:28] I'm John Bepis for Stephanie Commissioner,
[2:30] the Westchester County Department of Social Services.
[2:33] I'll let Mr. Scott get to do something.
[2:35] Good morning, everyone.
[2:37] My name is Randy Scott.
[2:38] committee commissioners for services. Tom Roney, a reimbursement manager, morning.
[2:45] I'm sorry, couple of budget specialists.
[2:47] And just, I want to indicate to the record, we have legislator in the more here, as well as vice chair.
[2:52] Very close.
[2:53] Do you have anyone else?
[2:54] I want to hate to see.
[2:56] I believe that is all.
[2:57] Great.
[2:58] Thank you.
[2:59] Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[3:00] So, as you said, we're here to discuss a number of those items, 381, 282, 83 and 84.
[3:07] all of which relate to the land acquisition that for purchase and upon that for a capital budget
[3:14] amendment to the SS-22, regarding the acquisition and infrastructure equipment to shelter
[3:21] facility, particularly the OASIS Center, which is located at 19 Washington Street,
[3:29] meaning Richel, owned by the Archdiocese of New York, in the Detroit section of the city,
[3:36] adjacent to the hospital. So we have been contracting with this site for dropped in,
[3:45] shelter services, since 2008 with West Hop, being a single facility we get reimburse of 29%
[3:56] by New York State, but we are responsible for 79% of the cost of this site. The site is a
[4:05] 7,084 square foot building,
[4:09] restoring building with a basement located on 0.35 vapors.
[4:15] It has 26 bedrooms, seven baths.
[4:19] And it's a deep drop in one of our nine drop-down sites.
[4:23] It's key because it's the only one on the sound shore.
[4:28] And critical to a large population of drop-ins at that site.
[4:33] We operate as many as 297 drop-in beds throughout the county,
[4:39] 90 plus percent of which are occupied,
[4:44] especially during the winter months,
[4:46] a little bit less during the summer months,
[4:48] but 90 plus percent during the winter,
[4:51] and all of our drop-in sites are now over 24-7.
[4:55] You're around to make sure there's access to shelter.
[5:00] It's a very old building, more than a hundred years old. It's operated under New York State rates and required inspections and health and safety standards.
[5:14] And so we'll go through and you'll see some of the pictures, but essentially the work combined requests are for is a $1.2 million purchase and acquisition of the site.
[5:27] up to 500,000 to re-temperarily, repeat, locate and house, single individuals, while the building is
[5:36] re-have at a cost of about $9.4 million per combined, 11.8 million.
[5:46] Yeah, please, what were the records we've been doing about
[5:49] challenges?
[5:50] Chairman Dashi, Chairman Dashi, thank you very much.
[5:53] Thank you.
[5:54] Thank you.
[5:54] Thank you.
[5:55] Pardon.
[5:56] Find a level of $.1 million plus the $250,000
[6:03] previously appropriated federal funds in BSS 22.
[6:08] And essentially, aside from acquiring the building,
[6:12] we really are looking at all aspects of renovation, including structural exterior, room, windows,
[6:20] sighting, drainage, sidewalk, landfill, landscape, insulation, interior, bedrooms, bathrooms,
[6:28] common areas, mechanical plumbing, fire protection, electrical, essentially being a very old building.
[6:34] previously housed. None of the support of the archdiocese, not had much of any work done in a very
[6:44] long time, I believe, found that they fit. And perhaps we can go through, you can see some of the pictures
[6:50] that mean.
[7:00] Now Tom could point out the south side of the building did have a fire scape at it.
[7:06] want to mention a little bit about that? Sure. There's two separate escapes. Once the
[7:14] attic area was opened up for placements and there was a requirement by the city. There's a
[7:23] redundant one as well. You can see there's one in the middle and then there's one to the back
[7:28] kind of hidden by the trees a little bit. We installed those four different ends there about 10 years ago
[7:35] just to be compliant safety for safety risk as well.
[7:41] You can go to the next slide to the north side of the building from the other side of Memorial High.
[7:49] You can see significant wear to the sighting, which is then close up on the next slide.
[7:57] Windows in the condition you see in the next slide.
[8:03] it needs TLC. Roofing, obviously, the next side's significant issues. So it's really in essence a complete
[8:13] recap, and then you should go towards that even the last slide, you see some of the last two
[8:18] slides significant deterioration of sighting and even on the on the face of the last slides.
[8:30] So
[8:30] Now, D.C. Scott is here if there are questions about how we use D.C.
[8:35] It oversees all of the shelter programs under our office of temporary housing assistance,
[8:42] those to the millions of the operations of our shelters.
[8:45] But that's essentially what the proposal.
[8:48] I understand a few questions in them seeing my colleagues.
[8:52] Well, so in terms of the occupancy rate,
[8:55] a copy system, you know, the 50s beds we'd alive throughout the year, is it, are they, you know,
[9:01] they used all year or, yes, they are 100% capacity.
[9:05] Okay.
[9:06] And with this rehabilitation, are we expanding capacity?
[9:09] Beyond the 50, or will we just bring the 50 up to modernization standards?
[9:13] Pro-sensual.
[9:16] And in terms of wrap around services, right?
[9:19] We'll be a vacation management, mental health services, employment assistance, et cetera.
[9:23] with this rehabilitation or as there have been any discussion regarding that.
[9:28] Well, those services are currently provided.
[9:31] So these individuals, it's just that if they need extensive work around employment,
[9:37] those things they may come to well, district offices to receive those services.
[9:42] But contract on record for this site is on west top.
[9:47] And they provides those services and to those individuals as well as help
[9:51] further than two necessary places in Italy.
[9:54] Let's go out to reputation proceedings when they do wonderful work.
[9:57] People with value so I'm very happy to hear that out.
[10:00] We have a queue, I saw, we have leader Olstein, you had a question, let's say the wait, Johnson, let's say the Fugia, let's say the bottom yard, and that will at least find it.
[10:10] Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[10:12] One, two more.
[10:14] I have a few questions, so I have constituents who have been at the facility, who have expressed that it is, what was the work that you used on the game of work?
[10:24] Here's what's in that map. How confident, I guess I want to understand how this came back.
[10:30] How confident are we that this money is going to actually be adequate for the repair or refurbishment.
[10:39] And I mean, I mean, you need to show you pictures of the inside, but I imagine there's a lot of work
[10:44] from what I'm hearing because probably more work on the inside has to be done there even on the outside.
[10:49] How does this call it to live in alternative ways to solve this problem to your base that might be more financially pregnant?
[10:59] Well, a couple of things, I think, why not, obviously, the historical nature of this being, since 2008, a site that we've operated at the community that's
[11:09] and operate well with the community is accepted,
[11:13] in the location adjacent to the hospital.
[11:16] I think we know the challenges of citing new facilities.
[11:21] Obviously DPPW looked very closely at it
[11:26] to determine what the capital renovation needs are.
[11:30] I know some of our fiscal team are online as well
[11:33] if there are specific questions, but certainly we knew
[11:38] it was going to require a major capital investment. And we understand this reflects that, but that,
[11:45] you know, we're confident that we can address it. And as you said, the contracts have increased
[11:53] over the years with Westcott, but there was limited opportunity because it was owned by the Archdiocese
[11:59] to your point to be able to get any improvements to it.
[12:06] So part of part of the request is the purchase.
[12:10] All right.
[12:16] So I mean, I'd be curious to see a more clear plate on the expected costs.
[12:27] You know, I just want to even even if the site is a site that's your point.
[12:30] I know as if that's, like you said, well, you know,
[12:35] the one thing of this new thing, there's a steam pantry
[12:37] behind, there's the app like a street,
[12:39] but it is a good site, you know, I don't know what the,
[12:44] it seems to me that the $10,000 could be used to demo in a start-up.
[12:53] And that might be a better way to go.
[12:55] I don't know.
[12:55] So I'd be curious to know what, and it's more kind of benefits.
[12:58] Well, what we'll think to add to legislature is that, you know, there was particularly from the advisory capital advice we need to try and preserve as much of the character of it so that, you know, just demolishing it and building an institutional building.
[13:17] So I think that's part of the, and there is an itemized breakdown from the, from our public board of support and that's the work that could be provided on this formally work.
[13:28] We do have a queue, but to that point, let's say to that point.
[13:30] Yeah, I think to, what, let's start our whole thing's asking for.
[13:35] I think it would be better to understand how much of that money is being spent to purchase it.
[13:39] How much is being spent to, and how does it have limitations?
[13:42] But also, how much are we spending right now to least this, or to pay for whatever it is?
[13:49] Because I think that if we look at this and say, it's actually a more cost effective,
[13:52] just to continue to pay on that basis versus to own it.
[13:57] That might be a better decision for us rather than to say 11.
[13:59] So I think that that breakdown of a front ongoing versus what we're already paying
[14:04] would be very helpful for us not to make that decision.
[14:06] Jeremy Doshy to that point. Yeah, to that point. If we didn't know that, could we do the
[14:12] capital improvements to the property? No, not normally we don't request. So I don't know that that's a viable
[14:18] But that's my point, though, is that if we can negotiate them to do it because we're paying them a million
[14:23] I'm making this off, we're paying them a million dollars for the beds
[14:25] It might be better for us to say you do that we have to self
[14:29] We'll continue paying a million, maybe we'll be able to do it too. Yeah, but I'm just I'm that's that's the type of
[14:34] the information that will help us make a better decision of whether it's better to buy it,
[14:38] because once we buy it, not only we have to re-ability, once we have to keep doing this.
[14:43] Right? So this is not a one-time cost. It's going to be every three or four years. We have to keep fixing it.
[14:48] So buying is very different than just paying on a per-bed basis.
[14:53] Yeah. And I think a couple of reasons, let's just later, of the intervention that's
[14:56] the current in the current for a photo of the purchase price as well.
[15:00] 2 million, 500,000 for relocation, temporary relocation, drinking renovations, and then 11.1 million for renovations,
[15:10] frosty existing, 250,000 dollars. That's in the current project. So that gives you an idea of the breakdown.
[15:20] Part of the concern, obviously.
[15:22] One point to the buy, up to 50 through to, I'm to basically re-house people, five hundred
[15:28] five.
[15:29] Right, one point.
[15:30] It's like 11.1 to actually fix.
[15:33] Well, my point four to renovate plus the 250,000.
[15:37] So it's 11.1 combined purchase, relocation, rehab, and then 250,000, that's in their existing.
[15:47] So, 9.4 rehab plus 250 rehab, 500,000 relocation, 1.2 million acquisitions.
[15:56] So, the total is the 11.1 plus the 250 existing.
[16:00] Do you know what we pay on any of your patients right now?
[16:03] 1.4 million.
[16:05] So, we have legislative pierced in Vice Chair Clements to this point, to this point.
[16:11] That's my first.
[16:12] It is, but it can.
[16:14] All right, so we'll come back.
[16:15] My share, please do this point.
[16:18] Yes.
[16:19] So in relationship to having the archdiocese fixed up
[16:23] the property, they will not do it.
[16:25] I have a whole community services that are located
[16:28] in one of their properties and they've asked them to leave.
[16:31] They're in the process of rehabbing another building
[16:34] to relocate the archdiocese.
[16:36] It's not going to put that money in.
[16:38] So that's not something on the table.
[16:39] It sounds good, but it's not something
[16:41] that's going to be on the table.
[16:42] And they're going to agree to.
[16:43] we've already been asked. And we're also understand legislator that they may have an interest in
[16:49] selling this site too. So somebody else could develop it and with a different character.
[16:56] So the point, thank you for that thiring event of last year, leaving one in the queue,
[17:00] let's say to Williamsjust. Thank you, Mr Chair. A couple of things. One, it's indicated,
[17:11] And one spot that's 50 minutes and another eight is the 80 include the observatory site among Vernon and set and even the 80.
[17:21] That's when it's over when there's overflow and there are times when there are significant overflow.
[17:29] We do actually house the women in Mount Vernon and we have overflow at another site that we're able to utilize when necessary.
[17:40] But, but there is a demand and significant need for as many as that can be done. So it can be over.
[17:50] Yes, I said that.
[17:52] I think we're excited.
[17:53] We have a lot more to answer.
[17:56] Grassland.
[17:59] We have overflow at the grassland single.
[18:03] Okay.
[18:03] And in the great time we interviewed that 500,000 was for relocation.
[18:12] Is that relocation and then back emergency?
[18:15] Yes, so essentially right.
[18:22] Now there.
[18:23] I think I just heard that the county's pushing use of capital
[18:39] So that's the 50 was the move and electrical. And the plan report says the electrical value is completed.
[18:47] Well, very little, obviously, I can't say exactly what was done, but 250 didn't go very far for whatever, and again, historically, the county has not requested capital funds.
[19:02] There may there have been a small pieces added.
[19:05] But, Diane, do you have something to do with that one?
[19:08] I'll see you on you then.
[19:10] I'm trying to travel here in the question.
[19:13] Is the question about the existing $250,000 for creation?
[19:19] Yes.
[19:25] Can you hear me?
[19:26] Yes, Diane.
[19:29] Yes.
[19:29] I'm sorry.
[19:31] I didn't understand much more later, and somebody else on him.
[19:39] I can, thank you.
[19:41] So I was acquired.
[19:42] That's about $250 of appropriation.
[19:49] That's somewhere is indicated that the electrical, that's a 250,000 fiscal loop, moving
[19:54] and electrical and other work, and that the electrical was completed.
[20:02] And I did not touch it in the new legislation because it was a board ad. And I just left it on its own as a possible potential future cushion. But there's been no expenditures against this project.
[20:19] existing appropriation was a board of legislators add in 2025 and I'm having that just sit on its own.
[20:29] This this request here for 11.1 million in purposes the acquisition, relocation and rehab of the building.
[20:39] So I'm not quite sure where you're seeing that it was actually expanded.
[20:44] perhaps, DSS did some work in their operating budget, but I don't have any capital expenses
[20:51] against this project.
[20:53] And the planning report attached to the, let me go to that, let me go to that, let me go to
[21:05] that, let me go to that, let me go to that, let me go to that, let me go to that, let me go to
[21:10] that.
[21:11] And then I will replace this through then, and assist it.
[21:16] Hang on.
[21:18] And while you're looking, the planning commissioners, July 7th,
[21:22] acquisition report on page, can you indicate that the total parts will be amount not to exceed 10.6 million.
[21:33] The 500,000 I've been telling you is the additional relocation costs.
[21:38] Yeah, and I know Bob Robert is on as well.
[21:44] I don't know if you're aware of any electrical work.
[21:48] So, no, I'm not familiar with the estimate of the project.
[21:53] So, I, maybe speak to the confusion created by the planning board statements.
[22:01] I believe that Gerby Edge dates back to 2025 when the project was originally
[22:19] created,
[22:22] and that information stating that electrical work was recently completed is accurate.
[22:29] However, it was not completed under this particular capital project.
[22:35] I think the author of that language is just sort of giving a snapshot of the state
[22:41] of the building's repairs. The funding source of the electrical repairs that were recently completed
[22:49] was not the capital project. It had to have come out of DSS operating in either 24 or 25.
[22:59] Again, the statement the roof needs 150,000 in repairs.
[23:05] I'm not the author of this statement, but I'm surmising that would be a quick and dirty patch, the most egregious issues.
[23:15] Whereas the proposal that you have before you is a far more comprehensive undertaking that, of which the cost estimates were developed by DPW.
[23:29] And we're the results of a more thorough look at the building's conditions.
[23:38] So I think the planning board report that you're looking at is,
[23:43] while the information is not correct. It's a little outdated.
[23:50] And let's just say to that point, thank you, Diane, you know, knowing the condition of the facility over the last, you know, 18 years.
[24:00] We either encourage our strategies or the operator with our support in some cases to do whatever to, to Diane's point.
[24:10] Help to build the building together while we found a more permanent solution.
[24:15] I think just two more points, what about I need a bit that we get as best folks or anything
[24:24] is that included in this estimate?
[24:27] Yes, I understand that everything's included.
[24:30] Robert, I don't know, Diane, if you want to weigh in, I believe that's, you know, any anticipated
[24:35] costs are included in the estimate.
[24:39] I'm going to do something.
[24:43] I'm going to do something.
[24:44] I'm going to do something.
[24:44] I'm going to do something.
[24:45] I'm going to do something.
[24:46] Robert, go to take a picture.
[24:48] I haven't reviewed the estimate.
[25:02] We can't help you. Robert, you want to take take take? I haven't reviewed the estimate. Normally I just want to practice.
[25:13] We would include in.
[25:15] Yeah, I don't think so.
[25:16] All right, so let's do it.
[25:17] Let's have a look at that.
[25:20] Yeah, if you can mention it, can you confirm that?
[25:23] And in circle bed?
[25:25] Yes, certainly.
[25:26] We're good for.
[25:28] And one last question.
[25:29] I think it's an indication that it's building it is eligible for the net and our
[25:36] resort is a great experience that has been five or four already world's at the
[25:44] plan.
[25:45] No, Tom, you spoke with the city group.
[25:48] Yeah, the city is not asking for that to happen.
[25:51] So, as the plan progresses, the idea is to keep it consistent with its current the way it
[25:59] now pretty much. All of that would be taken into consideration. The plan has to really move that far yet
[26:06] to consider what we'd be done with as far as historical property. What has Deputy Commissioner
[26:13] Beath has said earlier, the plan is to keep the consistent with what it is in the character
[26:19] have never played it yet. And I'll just piggyback on what's coming up in the majority of the
[26:25] adults on the same level to say that on the land there, maybe it would be really good to know
[26:30] the figures.
[26:36] Well, the current budget is up to $1.4 million for the operating.
[26:46] That's not the
[26:49] And I did what's able to identify there is environmental testing and environmental remediation
[26:57] asbestos and led in the budget of the renovation.
[27:02] So.
[27:03] And I keep it in five.
[27:05] Yes.
[27:06] We would also like to see the anticipated view.
[27:10] We'll be, of course, once again.
[27:12] It's for the last lecture.
[27:17] Thank you.
[27:18] Sure.
[27:22] I'm actually just thinking a few steps ahead.
[27:25] So if this had the improvements were to be approved,
[27:28] being that it is at 100% capacity,
[27:31] how long would these improvements take to happen
[27:34] as well as would there be temporary placements
[27:37] for those 50 beds and would it be nearby?
[27:39] And what would that look like?
[27:43] Certainly, I think Tom is at least at two teams.
[27:46] Yeah, and then the planning phase of it in addition to that on other six months to plan 18 months. Yeah, so it will work
[27:55] You're obviously once you start taking into the walls and whatever about age building such as this that could go a little bit longer
[28:03] And what would be the plan for those occupants of those 50 that's done during that time we would transport those occupants either to
[28:13] Rastlands or we would do the lies of current existing contract with our hotels and my last question if I may
[28:22] Mr. Terry, how, so since it's at 100% capacity, what is the turnover of people leaving and other people filling those spots of the
[28:33] typically average?
[28:36] But in terms of turnover, I want to say like I go and I stay there for two months, three months.
[28:44] I may go and utilize that bed, well maybe that will work, but then I don't come back and so another three months later on.
[28:51] So basically there's always space to satisfy those individuals during that time, and if they're not placed there, then they can go to grasslands.
[29:02] So those locations, all we could put it in the hotel of Dessness,
[29:05] so we haven't had to get to that point yet.
[29:08] And with a project of this, you know, for two years,
[29:11] that really could have a lot of shifts and images
[29:13] with given how quickly people are there for a few nights,
[29:15] or they're dropping in for a week or.
[29:17] And one of the charges that I have is to work with the community
[29:21] to see if we can identify a space within the community.
[29:25] So that's conversations that are being had now
[29:27] with various different people.
[29:29] that may be interested in working with us, and then working with the
[29:33] unless it is on, and local politicians to come up with.
[29:37] Thank you so much.
[29:40] Thank you.
[29:41] Diane, please join us at the end.
[29:43] I have a lot to talk about.
[29:45] I have a lot to talk about.
[29:46] I have a lot to talk about.
[29:47] You put your card back.
[29:49] You have the technology.
[29:50] My computer is going to start.
[29:51] I'm sorry, Diane, why you get set up.
[29:52] But next in the queue, let's let it not be your black user.
[29:55] Sure.
[29:56] Thank you.
[29:57] And the two questions, so I just want to take them from the one.
[30:00] This portion would change. But of course, there's the continued operating of the site. So that's the staff and supervision of the site and continued operations of the site. But it would likely be a different thought.
[30:15] So right now we pay 1.4 to Westcom.
[30:19] Correct.
[30:19] Up and two.
[30:20] And they're paying for the staff and everything like that, or we're paying for the staff.
[30:23] No, they pay for the staff.
[30:24] Through the money we pay the property.
[30:26] So is Westcom continue like once we found it, there's Westcom continued to grow.
[30:32] Yes.
[30:34] When the individuals are relocated, Westcom will still have to manage those in the
[30:40] bitu, as well as Westcom has the contract with grasslands.
[30:43] So that's why we would relocate the folks from Oasis to grasslands, so that the staff
[30:49] had Oasis with the end-go to grasslands and continue to provide.
[30:52] But the one point of choice, not just this new or shell location that it is, yes, so that those services will be moved to where those individuals go say grassland. Right. So that funding will need to go to grasslands and order for it to continue to understand how much that if we reduce because we now own just facility versus we are now just a tenant.
[31:14] So it wouldn't decrease because you still have to operate the service, but there would be the least of these stuff.
[31:21] Yes.
[31:21] We have a set of Amish edits.
[31:24] Do we know?
[31:24] I don't know.
[31:24] I don't know that number all paying, but we can get that number too.
[31:28] Because that's at least there's some laws that are from us buying this.
[31:31] That's it right now.
[31:34] Okay.
[31:35] Thank you.
[31:36] Thank you.
[31:36] All right.
[31:36] Thank you.
[31:37] Let's sort of tune in.
[31:38] Thank you.
[31:39] I'm just going to repeat a few quick facts, just clarification, a few things.
[31:42] So total of what the improvements in Berks is 11.1, is that correct?
[31:47] That's correct, okay.
[31:49] And then there are improvements in both include Roof and Signing Replacement,
[31:52] HVAC, plumbing and biprotection and Sera.
[31:55] And it archdiocese, it's leases to West Community Opportunity West Scott since 2001,
[32:02] in the second half of the day.
[32:04] 2018, 2018, it's the 2018 one would deal.
[32:08] Okay.
[32:09] And then it's 1.4 million to operate or 1.2.
[32:12] Was the number again?
[32:14] 4, 4, 2, up to.
[32:16] Thank you.
[32:17] 2, 3, 5 acres, that's there.
[32:20] And when is the lease up?
[32:22] Not sure.
[32:23] With the lease.
[32:23] The rest land is actually,
[32:25] um, we are Phoenix,
[32:27] this perspective site.
[32:28] I don't know you so.
[32:29] You mean the lease for a Wases?
[32:31] Oh, voice, it's right. I believe so. Oh, wait, he's just I would have to get the
[32:34] Please get me that number and the history and secures. What was this in the
[32:38] position? What was this built and what was it used for?
[32:41] How many? What's that image built? Yeah, we understand turn of the century in
[32:46] 1900. And it's the 100.
[32:48] At least, I think.
[32:48] The 19 19 19, that's you. Thank you.
[32:52] Okay.
[32:54] Thank you for now.
[32:55] Appreciate your talk. All right.
[32:57] Let's see the future.
[32:57] Yes, thank you. So I know we kind of danced around the
[33:01] plans, it's unusual for us to see, I'm not, I'm heard of, but I'm
[33:06] usual to pass a bond act without there being any type of design
[33:09] work done. And so we have nothing here. We don't even have a, the, the D to
[33:14] give you a pause break down. So I'm, I'm officially asking for that.
[33:19] And I'm asking also why we are going to, I understand why we're
[33:22] moving forward, but why we're going out to bond without having more
[33:25] information. And maybe Diane, as you're here, a person you need to.
[33:30] Yeah, I mean, I acknowledged first and morning.
[33:34] You know, I need to talk about that.
[33:37] Thank you for accommodating.
[33:39] I don't know what's wrong with my microphone, but we do.
[33:43] You are correct.
[33:44] We typically have a design package.
[33:49] And then you have a better idea.
[33:51] It gives everybody a better idea at the cost.
[33:53] The package is up before you does, in fact, constantly request an authorization of the form of estimated project amount based on DPW's physical site, this is down and examining the various systems and what they feel should be done in the interest of the expedited and basically priority.
[34:22] But yes, acknowledge, okay, it's a different approach.
[34:31] So given that approach, can we at least see the breakdown?
[34:36] Yes, you do.
[34:36] So that we have some things going on after the main.
[34:38] It should be different.
[34:39] It should be there for the community.
[34:42] But the community did do an estimate.
[34:45] And it does contain systems and breakdowns.
[34:50] So we can't get that out of the way.
[34:51] I don't think she's serving like that.
[34:55] Sorry. Are you going to another question?
[34:57] I think we had another one.
[34:58] It's really good to have the same question.
[34:59] Okay.
[35:00] So assuming therefore in that ballot and I know we're kind of shooting blind right now must be design money, because I mean, I assume we're going outside to have design work done.
[35:13] So when they talked about six months for planning, I presume that's not six months to do the design work because we are not successful in getting made a design work done.
[35:23] So is that in a different, that six months to plan, is that what we were assuming was the
[35:27] design work or six months to plan how we're going to move people.
[35:30] I think that was almost from this time.
[35:32] That was an estimate too, you know, I think it's usually could be a couple of years, I think
[35:37] is my understanding.
[35:38] This is my understanding.
[35:39] It was 18 months.
[35:40] So it was decided.
[35:42] Okay.
[35:42] This is exactly the question of why we're following this earlier.
[35:47] So, following the design multi-schedule that has estimated to take nine months to complete.
[35:53] So, as reported up to nine months, to anticipate that the design will be completed using both
[36:00] in-house staff and consultants and construction aching months. So, that's why the full estimate was.
[36:07] Yeah, I totally understand putting in a bond for the cost of the building, the cost for design.
[36:12] And I just find this, this, this first leap makes me uncomfortable, and also I'm
[36:18] question that the evaluation for the property, where did the one to million come from?
[36:25] The director of real estate did have the, they did as a part of the negotiations.
[36:32] They did have asset estimates and the property was the only way.
[36:37] Okay, can we get that information as well?
[36:39] Because usually we're given that.
[36:40] We usually give in sometimes is more than one.
[36:43] And that's for every piece of property we're buying it.
[36:46] So that information is missing as well.
[36:49] Thank you.
[36:50] Thank you.
[36:51] Absolutely.
[36:52] The majority of leaders are full.
[36:53] I'm just, yeah.
[36:54] I mean, your point is what faith in a bad expert in the process.
[36:57] That's something triggered is.
[36:58] Was there was there a conversation with the church that triggered this?
[37:04] Is this because I mean, as you know,
[37:06] We're just, I'm going to share that.
[37:10] Basically, the church has been looking to sell property.
[37:15] And they were looking to sell this property to the highest bidder.
[37:20] And knowing that this is the only location that we have on that side of the zone,
[37:24] sure we felt like we couldn't have this site go because if we lost this site,
[37:29] then all of those individuals would be noticing the areas over there,
[37:33] which would cause a bigger issue.
[37:35] So we looked into how we could negotiate purchase
[37:38] in this type on this site.
[37:40] And that's when Chris Davis came into the mix
[37:42] and started negotiations with our chises.
[37:46] I mean, that's helpful again.
[37:48] I think this isn't too recognized
[37:49] that there is a sense of urgency in the purchase.
[37:53] I do have to group my colleague.
[37:56] And so a little concern was kind of the flavor
[37:58] of my original question.
[37:59] So a little concern to me that we're sort of estimating
[38:02] a sizable bond without the design and understanding of the timeline is a little bit.
[38:08] It's concerned that it may not be right number, I guess we'll say it that way, I guess we'll
[38:13] say it that way.
[38:14] Yeah, it's not.
[38:15] I have a clear scope.
[38:16] Well, and obviously, that's why I went into and specifically shared with the WTPW provided the
[38:23] 9 months plus the 18th.
[38:25] I did also pull the information from real estate.
[38:28] are understanding what we had. It was assessed at 1.6 million, a praise dip 1.3 with the offer of 1.2.
[38:37] But that could be good for her.
[38:39] Okay, certainly an anomaly of a situation, but, you know, there we need time sensitive.
[38:45] Yes.
[38:46] Any other questions or comments from members of the community?
[38:50] The year or online.
[38:53] All right, areas of the nut, uh, uh, getting ready wolves.
[38:58] I'll entertain motion.
[39:00] That's a question.
[39:02] Oh, I would just like to ask that.
[39:04] There are chair persons that the services to the chair not.
[39:06] But that we have not.
[39:08] We've not to take a go to on this item until we get the items in question.
[39:13] What is the, will it be committee?
[39:15] We're going to put it without prejudice.
[39:17] Yeah, that's, that's why we have the without prejudice.
[39:23] to, as aforementioned.
[39:25] But the reason why I phrase it that way is usually it's just one item that's missing, we just
[39:29] need to wrap that.
[39:30] I feel like the laugh is so big that I, and we may have more questions after the item arrives,
[39:37] and I don't want to make it difficult to ask those questions if we have to bring it back
[39:40] to me.
[39:41] Obviously, this is not a concern about not supporting the topic, and when they get very
[39:44] clear, this is just about the process.
[39:47] So I'll continue to take motions if we don't have a motion in a second.
[39:50] If we don't move forward, we'll take the eye.
[39:52] This is a second.
[39:52] Is this ready where we can vote just on it?
[39:55] Why are we?
[39:55] Without prejudice.
[39:57] That one is a vote.
[39:58] We don't have a proper motion for that.
[40:00] That's for my question.
[40:03] 1.22 is just a buy.
[40:05] We get no separate funds.
[40:09] You'd have to break up.
[40:12] That's a question.
[40:13] You'd have to break it out.
[40:15] So, we can offer as the person to go on.
[40:19] Okay.
[40:20] We can't break it out.
[40:22] So, again, do we have the motion or a second if we don't?
[40:25] We can take these four items.
[40:31] We're going to take a look for now and hope I need it.
[40:34] Especially since some of those documents are existing.
[40:37] We can just circulate them and we'll have opportunities.
[40:40] I think most of this is available quickly.
[40:44] All right.
[40:45] So you'll need that to us.
[40:48] I don't know.
[40:49] What can we expect?
[40:50] This is we can get to the departments.
[40:53] And I don't know if you read and what.
[40:58] I don't know, I just like to, you know,
[40:59] what it means exactly.
[41:00] I got to have to pay for it.
[41:01] It has the bit being accepted.
[41:03] One point two.
[41:04] I don't know how that is.
[41:05] I understand.
[41:07] They have accepted that on.
[41:08] They have.
[41:09] Okay.
[41:09] We're going to have to.
[41:12] How can we be possible to put the bond in the internet?
[41:15] Because she bonds.
[41:16] Like, we're going to do that.
[41:17] I don't know if it's okay.
[41:19] I'm going to have to go to the market.
[41:22] I'm going to have to go to the market.
[41:23] All right, so let's just take a look now and we'll move forward when we receive the requested information from San Francisco.
[41:32] There you go. All right.
[41:34] Thank you.
[41:35] Thank you.
[41:37] All right.
[41:39] Thank you.
[41:40] Please.
[41:40] Thank you,
[41:44] Mr. Chairman.
[41:45] I'm David.
[41:46] I'm Chair of the Education Committee.
[41:48] I'm the leader of the game by time.
[41:50] I am here by Streetic Matt.
[41:52] Let's say to Far.
[41:53] Let's say to James.
[41:55] Let's say to him.
[41:57] Here.
[41:58] Let's be a positive order.
[42:00] And we'll be by.
[42:02] And now.
[42:03] And while we wait for our friends from the moment of department.
[42:07] The family has to go on.
[42:08] Who's present to us?
[42:09] Just a judge.
[42:10] I didn't tell you.
[42:10] Sean, I'm telling you.
[42:12] Okay.
[42:13] Okay.
[42:13] So as he comes to table, I would ask for a motion for the minutes.
[42:16] of July 13th, 26.
[42:20] I will move that by the house.
[42:23] Yeah.
[42:25] Yes.
[42:26] Legislator, room Johnson.
[42:28] I'm sorry.
[42:29] I'm sorry.
[42:29] I'm sorry.
[42:31] All right.
[42:32] Thank you.
[42:33] Let's live in a more.
[42:36] We move all two item three nine five.
[42:39] So,
[42:40] BG.
[42:42] I'm back.
[42:42] It's hard.
[42:43] I'm sorry.
[42:47] I don't know, I don't know, for 5-
[42:49] Pre недio is 5-
[42:50] Pre-95 is, Gigi.
[42:52] Gigi.
[42:53] Morning everybody, this is kind of being a little lighter
[42:56] and a little faster and probably just...
[42:59] Mark Gareff on this little part of my favorite stuff in John
[43:03] and John, Jonah.
[43:05] This is very simple.
[43:07] This is the case of a debt that was doing a county many, many
[43:11] years ago.
[43:12] And it was just like that of five June of this year.
[43:16] All right, you know what I think.
[43:18] So I think we we're on 395 of the D.G.
[43:22] Well, the workers' time.
[43:24] Are you able to do the workers now?
[43:25] That's somebody else.
[43:26] Okay, so that's two.
[43:28] So this is this is not identified.
[43:31] Yeah.
[43:32] This is item six.
[43:33] All right.
[43:35] So we'll move on to three.
[43:36] 63.
[43:37] We can present that item more circle back.
[43:39] Now I'll be done by the time he gets up.
[43:42] So, I think my desk June, we got a phone call that came in the
[43:46] dialed Dixon or a receptionist in the lady who says there's about $84,552.
[43:56] That's due, as she called it, to the Croton point dump, and it's actually due to the
[44:02] Department of Environmental Facilities. Apparently, way, way back. I spoke a little bit
[44:07] on who I believe is on here somewhere.
[44:10] I'm on the DS on the call.
[44:13] Yep, great. Thanks, guys.
[44:14] Put me off at any point if you want.
[44:16] Thank you.
[44:17] Before you dive deeper, they're going to be to you.
[44:19] And just introduce yourselves for the rest of the week.
[44:22] Vincent, convict your commissioner,
[44:24] do you have a little bit of a challenge for us to have
[44:26] any commissioner?
[44:27] Not better each, you'd definitely commissioner.
[44:29] Thank you.
[44:33] So way, way back, we do have any research.
[44:37] an organization called Global Geophysical Services 8.
[44:44] It's some work, but the county.
[44:48] And the research that we did was through court files.
[44:50] We tried to see, like, how long ago this debt started.
[44:53] And this is, like, back, it could be in the 80s or 90s.
[44:56] It goes so far back that the records are not even electronic.
[44:59] The records didn't...
[45:00] In this court, in Illinois, a fever. So eventually, this organization, this is called a geophysical geophysical
[45:07] going bankrupt. If it's taken over by from the call, GDS sign with donations, it's too much to be
[45:12] taken off and you die. But basically, there's a recovery item, an important Illinois to the tune
[45:19] of a set, a $4,000, if you $1,080, which after the
[45:23] organization would do very, very difficult,
[45:27] unclane with ugly service, take the one-third
[45:31] commission, will net the county, $58,836,
[45:36] and un-737.
[45:39] So that's the broad parameters.
[45:41] You're not going to drill down, go for it.
[45:43] That would not let the second one go back.
[45:48] Thank you for saving.
[45:49] Every much just a resident six outs.
[45:55] That's one of the terms.
[46:01] Any other questions or comments from members?
[46:03] Let's say we're just.
[46:05] So I'm concerned.
[46:06] Why are we okay?
[46:07] Is it excellent question?
[46:10] So John known as says that we basically could try to do it in our house, but we'd have to hire somebody, we'd actually have to hire a ball farm to do this.
[46:19] And this organization can do it faster, I think.
[46:23] And the transmittal memo.
[46:25] It'll take this organization.
[46:27] We're going to go through these deals and nothing.
[46:30] We'll take three to five months where he thinks that if it goes to an outside London, we're going to take it all over a year.
[46:36] And these guys, they know what to do when they do this for a living, a lot of term.
[46:41] I don't know if it would be the same amount of money, but it might be close.
[46:44] You know, a bank of disease for them, for probably my charge.
[46:47] I was $1 an hour, I could go to shoot it.
[46:50] Is that it?
[46:52] You gave me that out of that.
[46:54] That's to it.
[46:54] Other estimates for it.
[46:56] No, no.
[46:59] And so, and there's a, other than having the money and cash, there's not a rush.
[47:05] The money this allows to capture, there might be a limitation.
[47:14] It's in what's called, again, I don't know how to get you to eat.
[47:17] And should it spread it to the court's unclean fund registry.
[47:20] And then it has to go to the hospital.
[47:24] It can be recovered.
[47:27] I think there it is.
[47:29] It sits on claim for five years.
[47:32] The funds to transfer to the federal treasury.
[47:33] But yeah, there's a problem.
[47:36] And I can, I get this as much as everyone just, and this is not.
[47:39] I think I genuinely think it would be cheaper to do this for this.
[47:43] I think it's easier than I think it would be.
[47:46] We'd have to engage someone in and on the way to have to do that.
[47:50] So it would just be kind of embarrassed for six cents for every.
[47:57] Thank you.
[47:58] Any other questions or comments?
[48:03] All right.
[48:03] What was this that you negotiated at all the 30% or they just told us that's the
[48:09] thing.
[48:10] I think John figured this was about what it would cost and did not try to negotiate.
[48:16] This is true.
[48:17] And maybe we can ask some of the factors in the words at the table.
[48:23] This is true.
[48:24] Not only is it cheap but there are standard rates associated with some of this stuff.
[48:28] Is this consistent with your expectations, the standard rates for a collection of this nature?
[48:33] Yes. All right.
[48:35] Could you share a commission that's a percentage around 25 or 30 years ahead?
[48:40] Thank you.
[48:42] Thank you.
[48:42] I mean, I mean, I mean, she knows what she's going to do.
[48:44] Thank you. Is that a second?
[48:46] I mean, we have a motion in a second.
[48:50] All in favour.
[48:51] I ask any opposed.
[48:53] Again, this is where three, six, eight, three.
[48:55] A combination.
[48:56] Okay.
[48:57] Do I have a motion set for you?
[48:59] Yes, of course.
[49:00] So what is the exact same thing?
[49:02] I'm saying the other option.
[49:02] You got a sheet on paper.
[49:04] Yes.
[49:09] Thank you.
[49:10] Thank you.
[49:11] Thank you.
[49:11] And that's a great day.
[49:14] We move back to item 395.
[49:18] The lawsuit settlement and before we went into that item, I was told.
[49:23] I used the term table.
[49:24] We won't be table.
[49:25] We'll be continuing to be first for items.
[49:27] Concerning Oasis Center.
[49:28] So just a minute.
[49:50] So this is a pretty broad settlement, but the authorities that let rest here, just to give a, yeah.
[50:00] Anymore, for workers' concettlements, there's tends to be two that affect the county immediately. One is when there's a settlement of a personal injury case. The second is when somebody has an ongoing injury because of, I'm sorry, ongoing complications because of their original injury that we're obligated to pay for on a continuous basis, the statutory system allows us to settle the case so that it extinguishes our human medical obligations and reduces the e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
[50:30] future financial obligations to a net present value. D.G. was a supervisor of K.S.
[50:38] for the whole game July 2018. It was struck by a car on Martin.
[50:44] If you can, can you use yourself?
[50:59] Can you hear me?
[51:00] Oh, there we go.
[51:01] You can take a look at somebody else.
[51:03] I don't know.
[51:04] I don't know.
[51:06] I don't know.
[51:07] I don't know.
[51:09] I don't know.
[51:11] I don't
[51:13] know.
[51:14] I don't know.
[51:15] I don't know.
[51:16] I don't know.
[51:16] All right.
[51:16] There we go.
[51:17] Please continue.
[51:18] So, Luigi was a supervisor of case work in DSS, and on July 2018, she was struck by the vehicle on Martin Luther King,
[51:28] in Bolhar, she ended up with a serious injury, sustaining injuries to her neck, full of
[51:34] wrists, full shoulders, left hip, right knee, and back. She ended up suing the individuals
[51:41] that struck her, their lawyer, which was the city of White Plains, or I'm sorry, the person
[51:47] in trouble was an independent contract there. The city of White Plains pointed out that the settlement
[51:52] was for 1.2 million, and the county recovered the workers' compounds from that, which
[51:59] both resolved the future lean and reduced to a degree that the future ongoing benefits.
[52:06] But there's still obligations going forward for financial obligations.
[52:12] The ongoing financial obligations in a situation like that are not extinguished.
[52:17] There's a percentage of the future surgeries, et cetera.
[52:21] that is reduced by a certain proportion.
[52:24] This is the Burns calculation, but essentially,
[52:27] every time she gets additional medical treatment,
[52:29] we would be responsible for it on a non-violent debate
[52:32] until the extra money that she received
[52:35] from the original settlement was always English.
[52:38] Okay,
[52:41] so, going to the,
[52:45] all right, so this is on page three,
[52:47] they're now disputing whether,
[52:48] So, in the workers' compensation claim, the county and D.G. are disputing whether the primary incident permanently disabled her and if so, the what the great.
[52:59] As with all litigation, it's unclear how this defeat will result, our third party administrator triad group estimates that the award will likely be a 70% loss of wage earning capacity, which would entitle her to 400 weeks with no additional offsets.
[53:17] would be able to award itself would be approximately $312.70 per week, which does include the
[53:25] offset. And then using these figures, the reserve on this matter is $125,000 and $80.
[53:33] With a discount rate of 5%, how many estimates the net present value of that reserve would
[53:38] of $21,800,000, and then we receive a, oh and sorry, so the next part would be the future medical
[53:47] expenses. We've been medical expenses. The system requires us to fund it sufficiently for the
[53:55] anticipated amount. Triad is a general manager, it recommends accepting these deals because
[54:00] as we see medical expenses constantly increased, but we're still obligated to put in a fair amount.
[54:06] So there's not really the savings here, but assuming the costs of
[54:12] the annual expenses is avoided over doing anger for life, we would be saving those
[54:16] expenses.
[54:18] And that's set for down in the paragraph under the heading due for medical expenses.
[54:23] So turning to the proposed settlement itself, we've been presented with a proposed settlement
[54:30] for 52,000 or more than $43.5, and includes a lump sum payment to extinguish the
[54:36] on these obligations for future enmity payments and medical reimbursements, efficiently try
[54:42] and some contract there for setting up Medicaid set aside quotes and I say I have a good
[54:46] LLC. It's confirmed that the matter does not require approval for the Centers of Medicare
[54:51] and Medicare. When we meet that approval, we bet it.
[54:53] 52,000, $1,400, $3.
[55:00] On page 4, you can see that the total exposure, which is the indemnity and the medical total, 149,556 dollars, 12 cents. It's an estimate. So approximately 150, the proposed settlement is 52,400 dollars and 10 cents.
[55:18] to the same, which is substantial,
[55:20] 907,000, 903 dollars, please.
[55:25] So if a good day after a different boatboard approved,
[55:29] I'll let Triad know and they'll,
[55:32] a good year to the current.
[55:34] We have the whole team in the message of none of you.
[55:36] Thank you, Mr. Chad.
[55:36] I'm just trying to get sure I understand.
[55:38] So there was a settlement for 1.2,
[55:41] with Align who stayed,
[55:44] it would have been a good one.
[55:44] I'd have to be with white plain,
[55:46] but it was also with the driver of the vehicle.
[55:48] So when somebody gets hurt,
[55:50] who's a county employee,
[55:51] the workers compensation system kicks in essentially immediately
[55:55] to make sure that an individual isn't left hanging
[55:58] for years while litigation proceeds,
[56:00] during the presumption is that it's the employer's fault here,
[56:04] the county.
[56:05] When there's a lawsuit and essentially fault is determined
[56:08] as regards a third party, then the county is able to recover
[56:13] against those proceeds,
[56:14] because what it what it informs is that the employer is not involved in another party.
[56:20] So the county is essentially fronting the money, and then when they recover as against
[56:24] the third party, when you recover, but the county still has obligation under the work
[56:28] of her compensation system, even after the settlement as against the third party.
[56:33] Even though the settlement doesn't suit me because of the question of whether it's
[56:37] probably safe if his result just came after the settlement though, it's even if it came
[56:42] for this settlement. So you would have, so the workers compensation system also creates a system
[56:48] by which you cannot sue your employer absent like a major injury. So if you were in the elevator
[56:54] coming up to the committee meeting today and the elevator broke and you were an employee of the county,
[57:01] you could, you couldn't sue the county unless something terrible and catastrophic occurred. So
[57:06] you lost an army but sue the county.
[57:08] No, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to,
[57:10] as a non-goer, I'm just trying to understand
[57:14] and clarify my own mind how the settlement impacts
[57:18] just permanently, there was a settlement before,
[57:20] because even when we're at the control of this building,
[57:22] so how does that relate to the original settlement?
[57:27] The, there are two separate tracks.
[57:30] So if the workers' compensation system didn't exist,
[57:33] the county would have been sued at the same time
[57:35] that the city of White Plains was,
[57:37] and the county would have had to put into that settlement.
[57:39] So it could have been a $2 million settlement,
[57:42] and that would have been extinguished.
[57:43] The workers' compensation procedure
[57:46] supplants the normal litigation,
[57:49] and so we weren't part of that one $2 million,
[57:51] and so, but our liability is resolved
[57:54] through the workers' compensation system,
[57:56] which is just a separate track.
[57:57] To the degree they influence each other,
[57:59] they create certain offsets,
[58:01] But those offsets are established by systems and tend to favor the worker to put money in their pocket at an immediate basis with a lot of the offsets deferred.
[58:12] So it's $50,000 that is dealt with itself, right? So because of the cost of the cost of the $50,000 they can't do some liability.
[58:22] I'm just trying to...
[58:24] Yeah, it's not.
[58:27] So I'm not by the belief, that's the right way because it's not 100% normal for what I do.
[58:33] Thank you.
[58:34] Well, there's a number here.
[58:35] Thank you.
[58:36] So a little bit of that.
[58:37] It says the accident happened new.
[58:40] Is that why?
[58:41] So it happened at 8 p.m. a night when the work there is done.
[58:45] Would the county still be involved in that situation?
[58:47] Or is that just kind of like, it's not no longer working with work with stop.
[58:50] That's a situation.
[58:51] It would depend, well first off, so there's different departments that have a different system.
[58:56] So county police officers, for instance, have additional protections to a 7C. So if we're talking about what the liability would be, it would be a different. So for DSS worker, it would be strictly comp and the requirement of comp is that you are acting within the scope of your employee with, you know, certain enlargements. I believe it covers coming in and out in one time work. Some DSS workers have to make house appointments to late hours. If it was, you know, so it's not necessarily the hour of the day.
[59:26] But this person was basically on still, and working, and that this happened, so that's why.
[59:31] Yeah, I believe they went to court and coming back across the city when they got struck.
[59:37] So it was within the school for their boy.
[59:39] And we have a administrator of our worker's compensation fund, Triad, who's very steep in making sure that the,
[59:47] that the original incident occurred within the school of one's employment.
[59:51] Sometimes people could get hurt.
[59:52] on the weekend, try to be there's, there's, there's.
[1:00:00] There's a strict level of review on that. But again, that was something that was resolved in 2018.
[1:00:06] Right. It sounds traumatic for this personal, unfortunately. Second question is, why would
[1:00:11] there, there are more except such a low, why would they make such a low proposed settlement? I mean,
[1:00:17] 27th, basically 52,000, potentially three times as much. There's a certain amount of delay. Well,
[1:00:23] There's the, our calculation with respect to the likelihood of an award is our best estimate.
[1:00:30] It's possible that his estimate is different, it's different.
[1:00:34] The sum folks also, you know, with treatment, it's unclear the, you make your best estimate as to what future treatment looks like.
[1:00:43] Maybe she's aware that she's reached the end of her treatment and all we can really go on to calculate is the past, you know, treatment profile and maybe she needs the money.
[1:00:52] So there's the county tends not to agree to these sorts of section 32 settlements unless it was us because there's a certain amount of administrative time that goes into them and there's a certain amount of delay too.
[1:01:03] So if it takes four weeks before the board can be used to approve it and then provide the information over to try it and then go through its administrative requirements before the money actually changes hands.
[1:01:17] those are weeks in which the individual is receiving their weekly workers'
[1:01:23] conference, which is a couple hundred bucks. So there tends to be a built-in
[1:01:28] a little cushion into these as well, knowing that there's such a lag time, so the
[1:01:31] numbers sometimes support down at the proposed settlement, they kind of justify the lag.
[1:01:36] And this is the strategic 2008. If we agree to this, this is the end of it from ours from
[1:01:41] I have a question. Thank you.
[1:01:44] Any other questions or comments?
[1:01:46] Any other questions or comments?
[1:01:47] What is that?
[1:01:48] All of us are saying motions for the side of the meeting.
[1:01:52] The motions?
[1:01:53] I have the second. All in favour?
[1:01:55] Yes. Any opposed?
[1:01:57] All right. The eyes have it for being in it.
[1:01:58] Enjoy the motion, please.
[1:02:00] I'm looking forward to that.
[1:02:02] But like so, and then we are saying,
[1:02:04] like so, we're going to be showing some.
[1:02:06] Will you give me for all in favour?
[1:02:08] Yes, yes, yes, yes, have it. Thank you so much John in the stream if I make sure for me join motion for adjournment and can be on the case.
[1:02:20] Well, so we're going to answer the second.
[1:02:24] We're voting in favor of adjournment on favor by any of my guests. We are adjourned.
[1:02:30] Okay.
[1:02:31] I was a chair, I'd also like to go.
[1:02:33] Yes.
[1:02:33] Social services,
[1:02:34] lots of movies,
[1:02:35] and I think it's continuing the same
[1:02:38] in 2004,
[1:02:40] those four items,
[1:02:41] one.
[1:02:42] Yes, sir.
[1:02:43] I'll take the motion to me, chairman.
[1:02:45] Sir, please.
[1:02:46] Thank you.
[1:02:47] Thank you.
[1:02:49] Hi.
[1:02:51] I was a trainer,
[1:02:52] 11.16.
[1:02:53] About the right.
[1:02:54] Then,
[1:02:55] and we moved on to
[1:02:57] item 377.
[1:02:59] Thank you, but we have our DFT online, Yomi, I know you introduced yourselves for the record.
[1:03:11] Or so, dive into item 377.
[1:03:16] Is that SPK 12?
[1:03:19] Yes.
[1:03:21] He's good.
[1:03:22] Okay.
[1:03:22] Okay,
[1:03:27] so we are asking for $4.29 million, this is for basically for construction money for this is for the peak scale, plant the primary sludge system upgrade.
[1:03:43] There are, it's the replace base to the Asian primary sludge piston pumps.
[1:03:48] We should try about 200 pumps and a reasonable control equipment above the ground to avoid damage if the slots pumps were failed.
[1:03:58] So, I think you have the estimate there, the total project is 5.79 million.
[1:04:06] The construction end, again, you know, is lower because we have, in this total course, we have design DSDC and construction admin.
[1:04:19] And again, this is, we had, it's for the primary sledge of public system and the Eurasian tank in Florida bypass.
[1:04:34] I'll open it up for questions from members.
[1:04:42] Let's get serious.
[1:04:44] Yes, hi, a general question. Obviously, we know that it's really important for us to stay on top of all of this.
[1:04:50] made in Scotland. Every single one of these plants, different parts, are getting replaced at any given time.
[1:04:57] How about the cost in general then?
[1:05:00] I mean, you know, you would see like maybe a three or four percent increase per year, but it's been going a lot higher than that, especially on electrical equipment, it's very high, maybe you're seeing a percent increase per year and lead times, especially, again, the less for equipment is very long, so things are getting very expensive.
[1:05:30] That's why we try to get these things out, you know, and done as soon as possible, try to get the design done, push it through every year it gets delayed, we're adding on, you know, could be millions of dollars.
[1:05:47] Do we, I assume you guys have a generalized cost plan for how much oil and cost to upgrade all of these facilities over a period of time.
[1:05:58] Is there a way you can share that with us?
[1:06:01] So we can get a sense of what this looks like.
[1:06:03] Well, we do have, we do have our five year, you know, capital plan.
[1:06:08] and it lays out, again, pre-aprojects that we're looking out for the next five years, and
[1:06:16] there are estimates, of course, that's all I really are right now, of estimates of what those items are,
[1:06:23] you know, or could be.
[1:06:25] But they should be getting what we're going into budget season this year, and I think you should have that,
[1:06:30] you know, we're ready, but yeah, that kind of lays everything out for, again, for the next five years.
[1:06:35] I think I am in a budget of finalizing that. I don't know if they have it yet, but they'll be getting it soon.
[1:06:40] Okay. I mean, obviously these numbers are changing.
[1:06:44] Yes. Yes, I mean, estimates. Yes, some of us in some cases.
[1:06:47] Yes, I guess.
[1:06:48] Just having a sense of what this means overall for how we look at it, especially as a cost of money, might continue to get hired,
[1:06:54] what this all looks like going forward for us.
[1:07:01] And we look at, and we do definitely prioritize, you know, like, we do every, every, every year, we prioritize the projects in matter of importance.
[1:07:12] Ready to get those done, you know, center.
[1:07:14] Superb.
[1:07:15] You're welcome.
[1:07:17] All right, well, thank you very much.
[1:07:20] I'm like, thank you for the appears.
[1:07:22] Any other questions or comments from committee members?
[1:07:26] That's an interesting motion for V&A.
[1:07:28] We'll do this.
[1:07:29] Sorry.
[1:07:30] We have a motion in a second 4377.
[1:07:33] All of the things.
[1:07:35] I guess maybe a boat.
[1:07:37] The eyes have a program in it.
[1:07:39] And can I have a motion for infrastructure?
[1:07:41] So.
[1:07:41] Thank you.
[1:07:43] Thank you both.
[1:07:43] All in favor.
[1:07:45] Any other tools?
[1:07:47] I said I said.
[1:07:51] We move on to 389.
[1:07:54] the Yacht and the Throne, race, resource, and vocabulary for children.
[1:08:04] This is the IT Linux, I don't know if you want to.
[1:08:08] Oh, yes, I'm sorry.
[1:08:11] Good morning, Linux, Harris Deputy CIO.
[1:08:14] So this project is to essentially upgrade the existing facility with
[1:08:21] five-hour cabling network equipment to support of this particular facility.
[1:08:28] I don't know if you remember.
[1:08:29] This facility was heavily damaged during Superstorm Sandy from 2012,
[1:08:36] so there hasn't really been any major renovation work to upgrade the facility.
[1:08:43] So right at that point that we need to replace the infrastructure there to
[1:08:48] bring that particular plant up to speed, as well as to be prepared for any impending
[1:08:55] sovereign security threats, since that's a major initiative to protect our water system.
[1:09:02] So that's essentially what we're looking for this funding to do to help bring that plant
[1:09:08] into compliance with our sovereign security goals.
[1:09:13] Yeah, thank you for that.
[1:09:13] I was my one question specifically about the cybersecurity of reach and the focus there.
[1:09:21] I don't have any other thought of questions.
[1:09:26] This is, I am really not number eight.
[1:09:29] Let's look at the number.
[1:09:30] Thank you.
[1:09:32] So this sounds very important and necessary.
[1:09:36] Are we doing this for all our facilities?
[1:09:38] Or is this the first of the facility?
[1:09:40] just looked to have a plan of this whole cybersecurity protection. We, I think you heard a couple
[1:09:46] of weeks ago that there was another place that had just been on to go on the, um...
[1:10:00] And then the threat of basically being taken over slowly. And so do we have a plan for all of our, especially in the water treatment facilities?
[1:10:10] Yes. Well, this is, this will be one of many. So essentially we'll be looking at all of them across the board. But this is one of the larger facilities. So it's going to require a lot of work. So that's the reason why this one is being addressed.
[1:10:24] Right. And so right now it says six months, is there any protection that the plan has right now?
[1:10:32] From service. Yes. Yes it does. Okay. Right. Thank you.
[1:10:37] Right. Thank you. Let's say none of you are any other questions or Mr. Harris.
[1:10:42] There's no. I'm saying motion's for being late.
[1:10:45] I'm sorry. We have a motion and it's second.
[1:10:49] to the three in a hole in favor, hi. Any opposed?
[1:10:54] Yeah, I said.
[1:10:56] Um, before I take the situation, I'm not really smart to you.
[1:11:00] But because I didn't.
[1:11:01] Oh, yes, please, yes, please, yes, I'm going to show it.
[1:11:03] And I'm just going to let you know.
[1:11:04] So.
[1:11:06] Secondary.
[1:11:07] Hello.
[1:11:08] Hi.
[1:11:08] Hi.
[1:11:11] Thank you.
[1:11:12] Thank you.
[1:11:12] Thank you.
[1:11:14] The amended bond Act 379 regarding the peace field of the college.
[1:11:24] You have Neil, can I submit?
[1:11:25] Please, can I submit?
[1:11:26] Thank you.
[1:11:27] Please join us at the table.
[1:11:36] All right.
[1:11:36] Please, if you should.
[1:11:38] Thank you.
[1:11:38] Yeah.
[1:11:38] Patson.
[1:11:39] Commissioner.
[1:11:40] I'm going to public books and transfer patients.
[1:11:43] I'd like to introduce my colleague, Robert Abamont.
[1:11:45] This is going to be presenting.
[1:11:47] Good morning, everyone.
[1:11:49] All right.
[1:11:49] Thank you.
[1:11:51] If I may begin, this is, as you mentioned, this is for capital project B0116 infrastructure
[1:11:56] rehabilitation at the Peaksville District Office.
[1:11:59] We're asking for an additional $2.5 million which represents construction and construction
[1:12:06] management for the replacement of the windows and the doors at the facility.
[1:12:11] Basically they were original, they were over 30 years old, but they were original to the building.
[1:12:15] They are a single pain windows and doors, but replace them with the new windows and store funds.
[1:12:26] The doors will be, well, we call thermally broken frames, so there's no conduction transfer.
[1:12:32] Low EW glazed glass, the dissolved provides improved energy efficiencies and therefore enhanced.
[1:12:40] You know the building's performance just a general overview there's the the windows that you see on the building
[1:12:47] They're well past their service life and I said again, but they're single-pain
[1:12:57] Designed was currently undertaken by a consultant we anticipate that it'd be completed by the end of this quarter in September
[1:13:05] The expected construction is about nine months, but once we have the funding in place, we
[1:13:11] go out and request the authority to bid and then prepare the documents and bid them.
[1:13:18] All right, and if we support this item, this will obviously lead me out of the organization
[1:13:26] effort here, we won't see anything in the future.
[1:13:29] There's already the P-Skill District office.
[1:13:32] There's not at this time there's nothing else I think currently program for the building.
[1:13:38] We always every year would review our five-year capital program.
[1:13:42] We do look at all our facilities.
[1:13:44] We intend to usually try to bring in a project in the 50 year,
[1:13:48] and then have it move forward.
[1:13:49] Right now this is the only project I have scheduled for the building.
[1:13:53] Okay.
[1:13:55] Any other questions?
[1:13:59] There is a scene on, I'll take a lot of things.
[1:14:02] There's no other scene.
[1:14:04] But the second board, either 379, all the things are opposed to the ice out.
[1:14:10] I have a motion for infrastructure.
[1:14:12] So moved.
[1:14:13] I'm a bigger.
[1:14:16] And you're opposed?
[1:14:19] I'm a little bit.
[1:14:21] We're going to the next two items.
[1:14:26] I've actually three, five, and three, and six,
[1:14:30] a large vehicle's observation at the HALIS campus.
[1:14:34] Yes, capital project B0122,
[1:14:37] electrical substation SE21 at the HALIS campus.
[1:14:40] This is a capital budget amendment
[1:14:42] at additional funding to the project,
[1:14:45] and then they are the associated bond
[1:14:46] about $750,000.
[1:14:49] Result bond was from $900,000 designed
[1:14:52] It has begun and is expected to be completed this quarter, the project.
[1:15:02] Here's the sunshine cottage. Here's the sunshine cottage building itself. The existing
[1:15:10] transformer, the existing substation is in the basement of a building, roughly located
[1:15:14] here. It's hard to service. It's over 50 years old. We've had some experiences,
[1:15:26] operational issues with the switch, this project we store redundancy, to the buildings connected
[1:15:34] to this feeder. This is one of the feeders that feeds the campus. It's a switch in transform.
[1:15:42] We planned the plan as to move it over here, right by this is the entrance here to basic science,
[1:15:49] which is down here. So we take it out of the basement, we move it up a bug grade to this corner
[1:15:56] here. I can just show you a little bit more.
[1:16:01] The original intent of the project when it was
[1:16:05] budgeted was just to have the switch and the transformer on a concrete pad is out in the open.
[1:16:11] As the project got into design and for the discussion with both planning and other operational
[1:16:18] department. It was determined that it's better to be in a small, the switch should be in a small
[1:16:24] building that made the pad larger and here's your transformer. Also there's now certain clearance
[1:16:31] requirements that you need around this equipment. Putting the switch into the building also protects
[1:16:38] it for various items. And one of the other comments then was okay now we should have a fence around
[1:16:45] it, and therefore also do some plantings and stuff to give you an idea, the pad itself,
[1:16:52] or the thing is 16 feet by 29 feet. And this is what basically increased the cost of the project.
[1:16:59] One was originally conceived as just a simple pad mountain mountain facility piece of equipment
[1:17:05] to this, where we're now putting in a bit of a smaller structure on there, the fence seems
[1:17:12] the landscaping and all that.
[1:17:18] I think I mentioned, and we're
[1:17:19] expecting to finish the design this quarter
[1:17:21] and the construction is about 12 months to complete.
[1:17:26] That's why I'm pretty sure that's that.
[1:17:27] Unless that is all student.
[1:17:29] That would.
[1:17:29] I just have one quick question about the previous ones
[1:17:33] that we informed it or authorized the $9,000.
[1:17:37] Mm-hmm.
[1:17:37] In the packet that bogged that of much of the $20,000
[1:17:40] which is on the issue that we're going to use for.
[1:17:44] We thought used the design portions, so there's about 750 remaining for construction plus this 750 that gives us the 1.5 which that's what the estimate shown.
[1:17:56] This 770 product that's left from the 900 is that still going to go to the worst design and we done with design.
[1:18:04] I don't know that the original 900 was both design and construction.
[1:18:08] Okay. So we've only expanded a portion of the design. There's 750 remaining. This air, the additional 750.
[1:18:18] We're also carrying some of the conversations we've had in the past.
[1:18:23] In this particular estimate, we are carrying escalation factor quite large about 20%.
[1:18:31] You know, and it's it's a to make sure we have enough funding and we go out to the market.
[1:18:39] Let's let it be your show.
[1:18:41] Just 20 percent.
[1:18:45] 20 percent, I think we have MW in there.
[1:18:47] I think we might have some contingency.
[1:18:49] I haven't tried it.
[1:18:54] Any other questions or comments?
[1:18:58] So we discussed 385 and 386 together,
[1:19:01] but we'll vote on them separately. So four, three, five, do I have motions?
[1:19:10] Well actually, I would retract that statement actually.
[1:19:13] We can take them together. Yes, my apologies.
[1:19:16] So we'll take three, five and three, six together.
[1:19:19] We have a motion in a second. Both. All in favor.
[1:19:22] Hi. Any opposed?
[1:19:26] Yeah, I get a motion for any questions.
[1:19:34] And I just want to indicate to the record we've been joined by Legislative of Laura.
[1:19:39] Thank you.
[1:19:39] Thank you.
[1:19:44] Okay.
[1:19:46] All right.
[1:19:46] So that's 385 and 380.
[1:19:49] We move on to 387, a amended, amended bond act regarding generator systems.
[1:19:56] You can place it at the grasslands campus.
[1:20:01] Okay, yes, this project is the first phase several on that as a program. We've done the design. The request is to add an additional 3.52 million dollars to the funding that's already been approved for the design.
[1:20:17] This would define its construction and construction management, replace the existing generators,
[1:20:23] the associated fuel tanks, the equipment, at three locations, up at the Grassland's campus,
[1:20:29] the DLC F Unit, which is a 300 kilowatt generator, the DLC H Block, which has a 500 kilowatt generator,
[1:20:38] and the GL-Annex, which has a 250 kilowatt generator.
[1:20:41] These all were about 34 years old, they all were installed in 1992, so they passed their service life.
[1:20:51] The design is currently underway by in-house staff,
[1:20:54] expect to complete that in the fourth quarter of the 26th.
[1:20:58] Construction is expected to take about 36 months.
[1:21:02] That's including the long lead items for the generators themselves.
[1:21:09] We did escalate the estimate of what we had, which we got coffee's up.
[1:21:18] We did escalate it out to the midpoint of construction in 2028.
[1:21:23] That's some additional funds.
[1:21:25] And we always carry our contingencies in there.
[1:21:29] These have said this is the FUN generator.
[1:21:33] It's the inside of everything.
[1:21:35] This is the H-Box generator.
[1:21:37] There's a large generator and then the smaller of them is the the annex and then associated few texts that we have for these.
[1:21:52] Okay, and
[1:21:54] So there's so be 36 more
[1:21:58] construction timeline.
[1:22:00] The emerges you back up power, right?
[1:22:05] Well, they're functioning.
[1:22:08] So we,
[1:22:11] Yeah, and obviously, you know, we put it in the equipment, we face how we switch a minute now, and a lot of times too now when we put emergency generators in, we also provide a additional capability that if you had to, when you have facilities like this, you could always bring up a trailer mounted generator if that generator for some reason, like that's the spender, you know,
[1:22:38] It's set up that you can bring a trail amount to 10th their reader and connect it to the page.
[1:22:45] The worst power, we lost it to generator. That's the full.
[1:22:49] Understood. Thank you.
[1:22:51] Let's zoom gears.
[1:22:52] I know you mentioned that there is a cost estimate.
[1:22:55] I don't seem to have it in my fair.
[1:22:57] Just missing it.
[1:22:59] I heard it.
[1:23:03] So that was first question.
[1:23:06] And obviously we're hearing about the increase in cost for electrical items.
[1:23:09] So I'm assuming generators are a major one unless I think we've seen that at the table before our other generator project. So I'm curious about that and I'm wondering how much of that 36 week or 36 month lead time is actually lead time on ordering the generator.
[1:23:26] So those are, I think that I have to fight that on the time in the generators.
[1:23:31] I'm going to incorporate it into that 36th.
[1:23:33] I feel your previous question.
[1:23:35] We are including escalation and contingency.
[1:23:39] And then I did, I said, raise it.
[1:23:41] The escalation and the contingency is close to 25%.
[1:23:45] Originally, I bumped that up again.
[1:23:49] So the point of construction.
[1:23:51] The estimate was, uh, prepared.
[1:23:54] beginning of the year. So, you know, that's why, then we, the, and then I escalated it out recently to midpoint of construction.
[1:24:03] Can we get a copy of your original estimate and now your new updated because of the state of the work?
[1:24:09] Yeah, it's, it's all in that package if you need to get it out.
[1:24:13] I think it's coming to us right now.
[1:24:17] You'll see there's like a summary page and then the backup.
[1:24:21] Thank you.
[1:24:25] So each generator has its own page.
[1:24:29] If you look towards the bottom, I think there's highlighted both both.
[1:24:33] By the construction total, you can see just above where I have the construction total is the contingencies and escalation originally.
[1:24:44] And then
[1:24:48] carry that information over to the summary sheet where you see I added an additional
[1:24:54] 5% per year.
[1:25:05] I'm just seeing this for the first time. This is the total uneducated non-engineer question. One of the things is, there is not a fixed ratio between the concept of the generator and the amount of extra work that needs to be done in order to support that generator.
[1:25:20] So, like, for example, can you explain kind of what that looks like and why and some things?
[1:25:28] It's easier to cite, like, if you look at this site here to cite, obviously, a smaller.
[1:25:33] And it has a standalone tank.
[1:25:35] But then when you get into, like, the larger generators, the size of the generators,
[1:25:41] slow down a little bit more.
[1:25:43] It's kind of like pre-packaged building units and stuff.
[1:25:47] So they're due to the size, the amounts of cagling and conduit and the size of the tanks.
[1:25:53] You're getting more and you're having, and yeah, yeah.
[1:25:58] Okay, thank you. Sorry for the food.
[1:26:04] No, no, no, no, no.
[1:26:06] Great work.
[1:26:12] We'll be fine. I can, you know, what the currently time is, I can get back to you.
[1:26:17] Great. Thank you. Appreciate that.
[1:26:22] I'll make a motion.
[1:26:26] Okay.
[1:26:28] Second.
[1:26:28] Second.
[1:26:30] All on paper Friday 3-7.
[1:26:32] I can.
[1:26:33] Yes.
[1:26:35] Second.
[1:26:38] I don't think you both all in favor.
[1:26:41] All right.
[1:26:42] Any thoughts?
[1:26:45] Thank you.
[1:26:46] Thank you.
[1:26:46] You go to 3-2.
[1:26:49] Thank you.
[1:26:54] Okay, yes, this is a capital project,
[1:26:57] RBO-3, to take Renet Road over the Mayanis River in Beford.
[1:27:02] We're looking to add an additional $4,800,
[1:27:04] $60,000 to the money that's already been approved for design.
[1:27:11] The Renet Road Bridge in Beford project includes removal
[1:27:14] and replacement of the concrete slab of bridge.
[1:27:18] And with a new print task concrete being bridged and supported by Pile, supported concrete
[1:27:25] butments, installation of what are probably membrane and as well.
[1:27:29] Waring service, bridge railings, and pavement markings are the related work.
[1:27:33] The bridge has currently about a average annual daily traffic of about 1,000 vehicles in
[1:27:39] 2025 that was given a bridge conditioning rating of 4.07, like we normally like to dress bridges
[1:27:46] as they get the low-fly, design is currently underway by consulted and is expected to be completed
[1:27:52] in the fourth quarter of this year. Construction is approximately 18 months. And you can just
[1:27:59] see the picture of the bridge here. You can see what's happening to the concrete slab. You can
[1:28:06] three bar, some effervescence, again underneath, three bar.
[1:28:16] Basically, we'll take that away, but then we'll pre-fab structure in place.
[1:28:22] There's some of the apartments, you can see the old stone abutments.
[1:28:26] There's some issues here along the guardrail.
[1:28:31] Obviously, all this gets clearing, running, all this gets addressed.
[1:28:35] We'll be through the project.
[1:28:42] You know, Ross, my question is, I just question each time we do a bridge.
[1:28:47] We get more and more. Yeah, it's in the mall.
[1:28:51] I mean, traffic in that, right?
[1:28:53] I'm not familiar with the area, so let's say it appears this is you.
[1:28:58] Yeah, that's a great idea.
[1:29:00] That's a nice picture.
[1:29:02] Well, it's, I mean, it's where Connecticut and Bedford kind of intersect.
[1:29:07] And then the world of folks and ways and the Google maps and all the various ways of people
[1:29:12] travel. It's not only local traffic. It's people cutting through. So yeah, it's, it's,
[1:29:17] I know we've been working on this project for a long time, design wise and getting
[1:29:20] all the contracts in place because the temper easements and all sorts of stuff.
[1:29:26] It's been a time of making.
[1:29:28] So you're like, I think, in this case, I mean, with the MPT, it's, you know, try to do half
[1:29:32] the, you know, you keep it open, maybe one link, you know, we look at that.
[1:29:36] And then obviously once we go out to construction, we do put notices of, you know,
[1:29:41] to local communities, I think. It's a level that legislators usually get a notified of what
[1:29:47] the project is starting in the MPC for that.
[1:30:00] My recollection from the design is that there will be a one-lane because we had to add a traffic light for the one in which was in doing a temporary, right? Right. Right. And so they had to go on to someone's property to put it, which is why I know that we do have this one-lane approach that will be happening there.
[1:30:17] So it's going to work that.
[1:30:19] OK, I don't think we have that at cost estimate for this.
[1:30:24] Yeah, you're also going to test on.
[1:30:26] Yeah, that's not what you hear about.
[1:30:28] Yeah, I know.
[1:30:29] I thought that's what was going to happen.
[1:30:30] Yeah.
[1:30:35] And of course, that's what's showing the construction right now.
[1:30:40] And then to that, you see, you don't have that or you're dear.
[1:30:45] You know, no, it's just, just, and I want to say thank you to everybody for, you know, working so closely with the residents on this. I know that this was, there were a lot. There was a lot. And, and I know everyone appreciated the county's attention and whatnot.
[1:31:04] It's a very small bridge and yet it's very expensive and even though I've sat through a lot of these discussions and I know what this bridge looks like and I've driven it.
[1:31:12] I am a bit shocked at the cost of the bridge.
[1:31:16] Was this a surprise to us or did we always anticipate it was going to end up constantly?
[1:31:20] I don't think, let me just quickly check something.
[1:31:22] I think we are still.
[1:31:24] Not in a men's. Oh, I know.
[1:31:26] But still within our what we budget or back in
[1:31:32] In 20 and 20, we did budget the original amount and then in 2020 we did a specific cost escalation.
[1:31:39] Great.
[1:31:39] But not got what.
[1:31:40] But that's consent not going to.
[1:31:43] Yeah.
[1:31:45] So I really appreciate that.
[1:31:47] So whoever has the the estimates that would be great.
[1:31:55] What are they doing?
[1:32:00] So do we want to circle back to you?
[1:32:02] Yes, I mean if we can wait and then you can avoid the idea without prejudices.
[1:32:07] I mean, I think if you want it for now, I can actually bring it up on the screen.
[1:32:13] Oh, that's great.
[1:32:15] Okay, I'm going to start.
[1:32:18] I don't want to screw this up.
[1:32:20] You got it?
[1:32:21] We did get it.
[1:32:22] Oh, okay, good.
[1:32:25] Thank you, sir.
[1:32:29] And this is also in a sensitive, environmentally sensitive area, just to add to this project being extra fun.
[1:32:47] How close do you
[1:32:56] think?
[1:32:58] Yeah,
[1:33:02] this is based on the 90% plan.
[1:33:04] So, you know, right now, it's basically the final plan.
[1:33:09] See, is it take off?
[1:33:16] Yes.
[1:33:16] cost is 4.4 and bought is 4.8. Yeah I glued to we have to add construction management to that.
[1:33:26] This is the construction estimate then add in the construction management. That'll
[1:33:31] receive the project. That brings us to 4.25 with the original million when you total the
[1:33:39] that'd be by that being 5,000,08050.
[1:33:42] Is there actually a construction measure or 10%,
[1:33:46] yeah, it depends on the project.
[1:33:49] If we can go, like a road job,
[1:33:51] we'll be anywhere from 8% to 10%.
[1:33:55] D-EF, environmental facility jobs,
[1:33:58] we've been doing more heavily with mechanical electrical systems.
[1:34:03] They can get up into the 18% depending on the individual project.
[1:34:08] And then of course that percentage which drop I guess the feet as I think the cost gets bigger
[1:34:14] You know, it then slides down
[1:34:23] I'm
[1:34:27] good unless some cases you know, yes, so much
[1:34:32] You have the motion and a second for a 3D need all in favor
[1:34:37] You guys have it for being a
[1:34:47] All right.
[1:34:49] Anyone who's going to post that?
[1:34:51] Yeah, I think I got it.
[1:34:53] All right, that was 38.
[1:34:54] 28 is going to move all in to 391.
[1:34:57] I'm just going to read that.
[1:34:59] Our record centers.
[1:35:00] Yes, this is addressing the HVAC-30 tun, HVAC-205 on the roof. We're asking for additional 2.5 million
[1:35:11] the construction management. It replaces this 30 tun, HVAC-205 unit and all the other
[1:35:20] way to work with it. The unit is about 33 years old. At the end of its use of life, the
[1:35:27] new unit going in will be a heat pump type unit will have
[1:35:31] valuable air volume control demand ventilation heat recovery built into that.
[1:35:38] Again, it will tie into our BMS system.
[1:35:41] So all these things improve the efficiency and
[1:35:44] you know, an operation of the system compared to what was there.
[1:35:50] Design is currently underway by consultant that's
[1:35:53] to be completed in the third quarter of the year.
[1:35:56] We think about nine months through the construction.
[1:36:02] As we've mentioned before, this is one of several units.
[1:36:06] This is the first unit we're playing to replace.
[1:36:09] And future capital will be looking at the other
[1:36:11] we've talked to you in this.
[1:36:13] But the other units, I'm assuming, are around 30, 35 years.
[1:36:19] Yeah, they sort of different areas, different archive areas.
[1:36:22] So, to your question before when we're talking about peace kill, yes, we're getting do look
[1:36:26] enough facilities, and then prioritize what we're going to understate the place.
[1:36:33] They should have also received an estimate for this.
[1:36:37] I'm just sorry, so the drawing pictures, I'm sorry, that's what the rooftop of your book
[1:36:42] like, let's let them get their handling in it.
[1:36:56] And again, it was, you know,
[1:36:59] ejected out and we are asking for the full appropriation.
[1:37:06] That's there. So that does give us a question.
[1:37:11] And we did have contingencies there.
[1:37:14] I don't know if you have the copy of the estimate.
[1:37:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:37:21] Yeah, yeah.
[1:37:27] It's all set and then it's
[1:37:41] just about two seconds.
[1:37:53] It's not just, all right, probably.
[1:37:57] It better be myself.
[1:37:59] Um, we have a motion's for three and I do one of our records and.
[1:38:05] So what?
[1:38:07] So that gets me.
[1:38:08] Motion is second.
[1:38:09] All in favor?
[1:38:11] Uh-huh.
[1:38:11] Any opposed?
[1:38:12] Do you guys have it for three and I do one?
[1:38:14] And for infrastructure and housing.
[1:38:18] Some.
[1:38:19] That is.
[1:38:20] That's it.
[1:38:21] Your seconds.
[1:38:22] Oh, favor.
[1:38:23] Right.
[1:38:24] Any opposed.
[1:38:25] That's a bit.
[1:38:26] And I've minutes.
[1:38:27] Yes.
[1:38:28] Um, I've minutes for java.
[1:38:33] I've.
[1:38:34] Twenty seven.
[1:38:34] Twenty six.
[1:38:36] Twenty.
[1:38:38] Um.
[1:38:38] All the favor.
[1:38:40] All right.
[1:38:41] There goes.
[1:38:42] Minutes.
[1:38:45] Thank you all in favor.
[1:38:47] We are adjourned at 11.
[1:38:49] And I also had two sets of minutes from Monday to
[1:38:53] Light 13th at 10 a.m.
[1:38:55] To light 20th at 10 a.m.
[1:38:57] I have a motion of a second.
[1:38:59] All in favor.
[1:39:02] All right.
[1:39:03] And I'll take the motion.
[1:39:04] Thank you.
[1:39:07] Thank you.
[1:39:08] Thank you.
[1:39:10] All right.
[1:39:11] have a motion or second floor in your head. All right, all of them.
[1:39:15] Hi. Any thoughts?
[1:39:18] All right. We, I sat at the camera box.
[1:39:21] Thank you. Thank you.
[1:39:21] I'm going to let it for for two minutes. Thank you all.