Welcome
to the Village of Westhampton Beach
Planning Board meeting.
Please stand for the Pledge of
Allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
Republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
» [clears throat]
[laughter]
» I sat down over here and I said my We
have a resolution for Eric and Mona
Green, 24 Meadow Lane. Anybody here for
the applicant?
>> [clears throat]
>> I need a resolute I need a motion to
accept the resolution as written.
>> Make a motion.
>> Second.
>> All in favor?
>> Aye.
>> We've got in our work session agenda a
board consideration for Gables at
Westhampton LTD.
» As you may recall from
this project, your
approval of the site plan required the
posting of a performance bond
in order to secure
the
development of those exterior I think
exterior
improvements to the site.
My client believes that they're finished
with that list
pursuant to the
again pursuant to the decision I mean
subject to engineering review
and planning review. We believe we're
done. The the
approval went on to indicate that once
that status was achieved, we need to get
accepted by the trustees a a maintenance
bond and the maintenance bond will be
I think it was 1/3 of what the the
performance bond was.
Uh and I as I understand the process
I need you guys to
agree that we're done or tell me what we
need to finish so we're done and then uh refer that to the uh trustees so that
they can uh terminate the one and accept the
other.
» The the
resolution when you first approved this
said the performance bond stays in
effect until
a resolution of completion of the
required improvements has been issued by
the planning board upon certification by
the village building inspector and
village engineer that the required
improvements have been completed to the
prescribed specifications.
So,
>> Today
>> it's up to these guys to certify to you
that it's been completed and then you
can
approve the release of the performance
bond subject to the substitution of the
maintenance bond.
» Yeah, I'm just about done with it. There's two
things that were just a dumpster that we
still had to leave. There was a bit of
sod but
the vast majority of the
improvements have been completed.
>> And the minor things you you're
confident that they'll do what you
wanted.
>> Yes, and I will still have the
maintenance bond and I still have
many seal
So, some of some of this this little
areas that we'll talk about aren't next
to the units that I promised to seal.
» But
>> leaving total total money
area of work
» All the landscaping and everything that
we
illustrated on our
>> Yeah.
>> I did.
>> Okay, good.
Okay.
So, we need a motion to um
release the performance bond subject to
the trustees issuing a maintenance bond.
>> I'll make that motion.
>> Second.
>> All in favor?
>> All right.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay, thank you.
>> [clears throat]
» And Megan said the
>> Wish I could say it was an asset to the
neighborhood.
>> The trustees need something.
>> There are no houses.
>> Maybe just do a letter away confirming
that the that the meeting
>> The planning board
>> You know.
>> There may be some difference in
>> let Anne speak on this?
May I let Anne speak on this?
>> I just have two questions. Um the road
is still flooding terribly when it rains
out halfway across Depot Road because
they did put in a drain, but it's not
draining it.
And also um
along the back Patio Villas fencing,
they had pictures on the
uh
grand master plans of it of lots of
trees,
but there aren't trees along there.
And the dumpsters by Pergolas,
how are they going to get those dumped
because the roads are so narrow you can
barely turn a car around much less a
garbage truck?
Maybe that's for the trustees. That's
all I wanted to ask.
» And we'll maybe look at it when it
rains.
>> It So, yes, but there was some flooding
on Depot Road. There was a couple of
things. So, that it was a very
protracted
period of getting the
uh signal changed from the pole that was
on there. And so, it's way longer than
it should have. So, it took a long, long
time to get the final lift of asphalt
on. So, both the county and the town,
down Southampton, cuz they own Depot
Road and maintain it.
Um
There was one in the last few months
that that was settled to their
satisfaction and they released the bond
to the Southampton Town Supervisor.
There was another issue on Depot Road
that Ron and I both
looked at.
North of this development, which I don't
think it's
>> part of this development or is beyond
it.
>> There's a long stretch of Depot Road
with a dip and there's one one catch basin that's way over
capacity right now. And then it's almost
filled up on a dry day
and every other
dry well in this area, including in this
development that we're talking about,
has 5 6 8 ft of capacity, but there is
one overloaded drain
a little bit further north over by the
Beachwood subdivision that we've
identified and needs maintenance and
it's something that the town should
consider. They might have to add an
additional drainage structure
>> The town or the village?
>> Town.
>> Okay.
>> The town owns that road, so we've been
talking conversation.
It is something that we want to address.
I don't [clears throat] think that this
development
has caused it nor do we think that the
Beachwood development has caused it. I
think it's a
It's it's a it's a road design issue.
We've had
these catch basins, these leaching
structures, they need to be cleaned out
from time to time and it's very hard to
get to all of them and this one is
probably just due.
» Maybe we can review this landscaping
situation, too.
And uh
>> There were several iterations of the
plan.
>> Okay.
>> An earlier iteration had larger trees
along the north fence line and then
the plan that was eventually approved,
because we remember we amended the
landscaping plan,
they changed that to be a different
package.
I think it's substantially complete and
matched
what the board eventually approved,
because there was an amendment, but I'm
more than happy to pull that out again
and go over it with anyone
Of course,
regardless the bond situation.
Site plan is a living document.
This site does not have
trees
as were designed it would be in
violation of of the site.
We still have the power over that. So
things that are missing I
we'll get we'll get it done.
>> So Anne, maybe you want to come in and
coordinate what you've been looking at
and um make certain that
>> And the drain is to south of their
entrance
to the Gables on Depot Road.
>> So it's literally on the corner of Depot
Road.
>> No, it's not on the corner of
>> Of course, the gas station.
>> It's where you drive into
the Gables
just south of
>> Sounds like a service issue.
>> [clears throat]
>> I beg your
>> Sounds like a service issue on the on
the structure itself.
>> And it's not built into a curve. It's
one you know where there's all these
holes and around thing
along the road and it's just
it's there but the water's not going
down. So I guess
>> Or it reaches its capacity quickly.
>> Town has to deal with it.
>> Okay.
>> We'll work on that if it's near the entrance as part of
this work. We'll figure that out.
>> Okay, well I think we're done with this.
We're going to move on to a modification
of site plan review for Westhampton
Country Club.
>> Patrick Motts, 54 Montauk Highway for
the applicants.
Uh good afternoon.
>> Good afternoon.
>> Um
we have submitted all the materials that
have been requested of us. Um no further
comments were received back and so we
are
uh waiting either for further remarks or
ready to move forward to the next step.
» I believe Ron and I signed off on the
recent submittal and so the Brad and
um I believe there was a resolution
prepared and submitted to the board for
adoption as well.
If the board signs off on making those
changes that happen.
» Anthony if it's not on the agenda, can I
approve resolution that we've already
reviewed?
» Why not?
>> Okay.
I need motion to accept the resolution
for Westhampton Country Club, 35 Potunk
Lane.
>> I second it.
>> that resolution.
>> All in favor?
>> Aye.
>> Thank you very much. [clears throat]
>> Thank you for all your help.
>> We appreciate your cooperation.
We're doing site plan reviews now. 161
Montauk Highway.
» Good afternoon, Nicholas. You're an
architect. What's What's the little road
list happy beach for Marcus Dinchy?
Um
>> It's a pleasure to see you.
>> Happy to see you as well.
It's so long.
>> I was really worried about you.
>> Don't be worried about me.
>> You look good.
>> Thank you, you too.
Um I received this a little while ago
from uh email from Megan. Uh
10 items on a list of cleanup stuff that
we have to do. Uh the most notable one
that I do want to point out was number
one, the site plan uh G drawing G001.
>> Same three.
>> Mistake was made on our site plan for
the square footage. We have our
apartments at 850 square feet each as
noted on the plans uh that I presented
to ARB. So, I'll make sure that I'll
correct everything that's on this list.
Basically, some cleanup stuff on there.
Transition between who did the work
before was no longer with me, who was
doing the work now. Some of the stuff
got lost in translation, so. Um
if that's okay, I'll have everything
back to you by next Wednesday. I believe
our deadline is next Thursday. Is that
correct for the next hearing?
Megan?
>> Technically, 10 days. Yeah, but it's
hard to do this.
>> days, so
>> Oh, okay.
>> Monday.
>> I believe I can have back on Monday.
afternoon.
Should be There's not that much here.
I'll clean it up.
>> You got two memos today, right?
>> I only got one.
>> There was two attached to it. them?
>> That's all I got.
>> Britain's
>> I only even gave you both.
>> I have just from Britain and I don't
have anything else.
>> You got You should have one from Brad.
>> Absolutely. That's That's the only one
I'm going to address.
>> I sent you two attached to it.
>> Uh Does anybody have a copy?
>> I don't think I drove it.
>> You have two? Okay. So, you didn't send
>> I think I sent it to Holly. You even
forwarded me the application.
» I think I
» The one I did When you say in the back
on the south side?
Or the at the west side? The south side?
I thought we I don't have that hard.
Okay. This one.
Okay. I thought we I thought we
addressed it. I thought we
I'm I'm going to
I'll address it. Making Can you do me a
favor? Could you forward those to me
tomorrow morning, please? Or now?
>> [clears throat]
>> Okay. Either way.
>> You want to draft it directly to you?
>> I'll do it right now.
>> Please send me Oh, Marcus sent it to me.
Yeah, I didn't get the uh second
comment, so.
And I will I will fix it either that
I'll cut the I'll take a foot off the
building. I'll do what I need to do to
get that to work.
Okay. I'll I'll address that. My bad. I
mean, that's something that
» I think Britain's memo is pretty
accurate, too.
>> Yeah, Britain's memos
>> Yeah. You just dated Yes.
Absolutely.
>> Windows, roofs, doors.
>> Yeah, I'm I'm not going to go through
that now.
>> So, Nick, okay.
>> I can't even read it. So, let me just
I'm going to just want to look at one
list.
>> You want to look at this?
>> me a second.
>> Mr. Stinger?
>> Yeah, he's got it right here.
>> I got it on a big screen.
>> Well, I
>> I run yet to your point I see the door,
okay. I'll take care of it. I'll
probably wind up moving that door, so
make it easier.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, I'll I'll move the door cuz I
think we tried to address it and I get I
think it fell on deaf ears, but I will
take care of that. I'll move it to the
side.
There's no reason to have a door there.
>> Okay.
>> Good uptake of the memos were
We're in a good place. We just have to
put everything together, redate it, fix
a couple of things.
>> I'm all good.
>> One code thing though, it seems this
parking spot grew back again at the
north end.
We have that transitional buffer yard 30
ft from the property line.
>> The north end by Citterella?
>> This one this one here?
>> Across from
north your store northwest.
Oh, by me.
>> So, the transition area starts does it
start from the curve or does it start
from our
From the property line, okay. All right,
so it's that space there. I can make
that adjustment.
>> The wine store when you went for that I
think it was variance involved, so it's
>> Right.
>> I understand the concept of lining it up
with that, but
>> Well, it doesn't line up. It it actually
goes a little southward of that. Um but
I will make sure that we have our 30 ft.
>> Okay.
>> What's the issue from here to here?
>> From property line.
to that.
>> It's 30 ft. Buffer so we have to lose
that parking spot.
>> Possibly or
fix whatever I need to do there. I'll
fix that.
I think we're over here anyway.
We'll be okay.
>> You have more than enough parking.
>> We have enough parking. Yeah, we have
more than enough parking.
>> Yeah, we just
>> [clears throat]
>> The more the more the better, you know.
>> All right.
Yeah, I think it was pretty I just
didn't Ron's comments again, so I
apologize for that.
>> Okay. It's nice to see you guys. Thank
you for coming in. Thank you for your
cooperation.
>> Any questions on that?
>> You're very welcome.
>> Uh anybody have any questions?
>> I do.
>> I'm sorry.
>> Nick, your apartments 850 square feet.
I'm assuming they're one-bedroom
apartments, correct?
>> One-bedroom apartments, yeah.
>> I mean from from the standpoint of
health department, it doesn't matter.
The number is whatever that number has
to be on the deed.
>> Yeah.
>> Certain square footage to keep us going.
>> Based on 850.
>> 1,200 square feet doesn't make a
difference.
>> Mhm.
>> Um or we're in the 600 square feet,
that's a studio.
So, but in this case,
we're 850, so.
>> Okay.
>> Thank you.
>> Anybody else have any questions?
>> No.
>> Okay. Well,
All right.
Um
we're now going to have a secret
discussion on Brenda Osterreicher, 220
Dune Road.
» Well, this is this
Look, we we had the discussion last time
we started it.
And we wanted you guys to think about
it.
Um it's the the initial question is
who's going to act as lead agency. So,
have you thought more about it? Do you
have feelings about it?
>> Speaking for myself, I have. I guess the
thing to do at this point is to poll the
um
the board.
Find out where we sit on this. Is that
the correct procedure?
>> Sure.
>> Mr. Rocker, we're going to start with
you.
>> Okay.
>> Cuz you're right next to me now.
» I gave it a lot of thought. And I think
based on the considerations, I think we
should take lead agency.
That's my thoughts.
>> Okay.
>> Just so we have a little bit more
control.
» I like the I like to be lead agency
myself. You want to be the lead agency?
>> Yes, I think it's our responsibility to
be lead agency.
» Okay.
Well, far be it from me to uh
>> You don't even have to speak.
>> Well, just so you know, I mean, you you
guys have the choice to
exercise it. The zoning board, we will
ask them next week what their feelings
are. There There are
I've never seen it in this village, but
there are times when two different
involved agencies want to be lead
agency.
We'll see what they say. If they do,
there's a resolution
mechanism for it that I think it's
actually the DEC that decides if there's a
dispute among involved agencies.
>> Cool.
>> It's like an appeal to the DEC, and the
DEC would make the decision.
>> wondering about that. Yeah.
>> We could do it as a test just to see
what
>> [laughter]
>> No, I I've no idea what the the zoning
board will say.
>> That's what I was going to say.
>> Whether they care or don't care. So,
>> Well, I mean,
historically, the zoning board hasn't
really taken lead agency.
>> That's true.
>> And I can't even remember. Do you?
>> Um
» Was that coordinated?
Yeah, I don't know. All right. Well,
this board is um electing to seek
the uh secret privilege.
>> And what if you let the zoning board
>> We'll let the zoning board know, and
if they care, we'll we'll
do that dis- that that mediation,
whatever process it is, and if not, then
at the next meeting, um we will initiate
the lead agency process, which requires
you to send out notices, and what
>> Okay.
>> Not for the next meeting.
The next meeting they'll actually take
the dates
>> No. No, no. Send out the notices
requesting lead agency. It's a It's a
process we have to solicit all the
involved agencies and make a formal
request
that you act as lead agency. They then
have a
Cuz we didn't do that yet.
>> No.
>> So.
Yeah.
So, that would be the the next step.
» See what the zoning board has to say.
>> We'll discuss it and then the next It's
2 weeks for the meeting.
>> No, it's the the next So,
>> Zoning board is next week. So, in 2
weeks, if the zoning board says they
don't care,
then in 2 weeks
>> the action at the following meeting.
>> process. We'll identify the involved
agencies.
>> Right.
>> 30-day response window for that one.
>> Right.
» Now, do we always send out notices when
we do secret?
>> Yes. When you coordinate review
>> make this so seamless. You make us look
good.
Thank you.
>> [laughter]
>> Sometimes we try to do solicitation for
lead agency and sometimes we have
clients that are substantially complete
so things are simple. We kind of send
it, "Hey, by the way, this looks like
our plan, too. Will you do both?" And
sometimes the county planning commission
give us
>> Just initially.
>> The lead agency also we find feeling
it's a programmatic declaration. We get
something like that great, but usually
it's a two-step process. First, we
solicit solicit for lead agency and
they'll come back and says that's fine
and then when the plan is in good shape
from the lead agency standpoint, then we
do our referral against those same
involved
» Mr. Yun, do you have any comments you
would like to add to this process?
>> No.
Look forward to whoever decides to do
>> [laughter]
>> Well said.
The diplomatic response.
>> in the middle. Very nicely done.
>> [laughter]
» Place your bet on that.
>> All right. Well, thank you very much and
I guess we'll have that discussion next
time.
Um
we have minutes to accept the minutes of
July 23rd. I need a motion to accept the
minutes as written.
>> Make that motion.
>> We have a future meeting on August 27th
and I guess we should be discussing the
agenda for that with Britain.
>> We don't have the agenda set yet. We'll
be discussing
>> I need a motion to close the meeting.
>> I'll make that motion.
>> I second.
>> favor.
>> I.
>> Thank you, gentlemen.