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there are a couple of agendas up here if anyone has any questions.

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It is 545 until I 30 it and I've got all of the point of civil authority, I have a

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question and stirred of order and the first item or the second item is the PC8

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organization left in a chair and a vice chair.

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I will pay the nomination as a chair.

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I nominate Sarah Waldo's chair.

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That's what we have to do.

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Susan, second minute, thank you.

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So, well, though, more nominations.

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So, well, those have been nominated for chair at the PCA.

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All those in favor.

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So, well, though, I think you're taking over this meeting now.

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Sorry.

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So I want to get back to the show.

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I'll talk to you if you think I'm going to get to the show.

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You're a good friend.

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I have to have that work.

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Yeah, like what he said, I don't know, I think they said more than I've never done it.

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Janette, look at it.

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Yes, it is.

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Thank you, Naomi.

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So now we have another emotion.

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Yes, you have a vision.

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I do that.

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You know, you know, start now and you're done.

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I don't know.

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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But you some stuff.

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First time.

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Let's go.

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Thank you.

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So

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the next item on the agenda is the election of a vice chair. So I will take nominations with that position.

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everybody.

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I know many, can I know many? Sure, can I? I know many seasons

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I love. Let's first share.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Thank you. And the other

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nominations.

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Can I do a bad, of course, in January?

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I think all those in favor of

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the nominee for Vice Chair, Susan Barlow on the side. Anyone opposed?

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Okay, because the chief Susan, sorry. Thank you. Thank you, Susan.

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The next item on our agenda is the acceptance of the October 24 meeting minutes.

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So I don't know if everyone's had a chance to remember that.

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Everybody ready to accept.

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So all those endeavours accepting the minutes of the October.

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I have two different dates here.

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I've been watching them be accepted.

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Okay, we didn't.

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Um, up to 28 and on the agenda, but for example, with 30, I buy air is actually 28.

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The units on the agenda lose the 24, so that's the 28.

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Okay.

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I think the meeting was at 24.

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On the agenda, it says also three different dates, lawyer. Really block it right here.

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Um, what do you want to say?

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Thanks, Morrison.

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Okay, we have all those two minutes.

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In the minutes of whatever day that I was out.

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And I will.

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Pat Boss.

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All right.

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That's it.

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Chocononia.

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Well, actually, if you weren't at that meeting,

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we can't,

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yep, a prouver discipline.

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So those were the meeting,

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and just the necessity.

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Okay.

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Approved.

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Okay.

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So,

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It's a new business, well, what is the checklist on number five I've heard of?

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The checklist is, can you put out, notice to the BCA?

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Any more names that have moved from the town?

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It should be challenged.

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And so I should do that.

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Can you say to the email that asked the BCA,

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if they approved me sending the challenge letters?

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there were very few responses. So I can't really challenge voters without VCA. It's a state

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statute that will be CA, challenge voters. So I really can't do it. It's supposed to be 30 days before

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in the election. I still have plenty of time to challenge voters, but you flashed you the

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where the checklist and we deal.

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Do you have a list of ones that have moved?

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One of the whole checklist.

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No, no, I don't have.

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I'm not that.

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You also get, let me get the check.

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Yeah, we go here and see who passed away,

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because obviously, we've all been there.

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I can't vote.

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We're in any book, and then we look at it and say,

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if we move the way, then we send new blood.

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But normally, with several people who passed away,

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that the open is going to call and come up and it's all passed.

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Well, general, you get a, that's certificate.

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So I, that's certificate is kind of a mistake,

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and I do approach voters that have died

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that have passed away.

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So do you want us to review this now?

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Is that the plan?

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It did, though, but maybe it's better to send you a list of, was it done one? Yes.

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But we can take some more.

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Yeah, yeah, it is.

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No, no, no.

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I mean, we're working for an election.

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Yeah, but it doesn't want to be.

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I don't want to tell you this.

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No more of them.

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I have to do it.

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And without, without a sense, we're in some kind of group.

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So, I think it's 90 days before that, I think we have a number.

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that we legislated by the election. It's not a big announcement, but it's always so

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late. Yeah. So also, I think that's the list of those people that came back to the mail

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that we're challenging and to see what everyone thinks. And then we would just respond to you

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like we're going to leave. Right. And the other, the other thing, the energy challenge is if you haven't

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voted if a voter has voted within two years, we challenge those people also seems may be

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extreme, but we haven't voted in an election in two years that we challenge them.

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Good 10 years?

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Yes.

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Is that a safe regulation?

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No idea.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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We're doing various saves every time.

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It might have done.

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We do a better job.

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We do a better job.

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We do a better job.

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We do a better job.

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We do a better job.

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We do a better job.

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We do a better job.

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's not a moment.

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No.

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What are you going to say?

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I don't know.

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I can't remember your life.

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You go through it.

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Right.

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It's your next two actions.

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Actually, it's two general actions.

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Tell us, you know, probably actually four years that you've not voted.

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You're too scared.

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I'm not scared.

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Right.

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I'm not too scared.

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Do you have copies of that?

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I have the checklist here.

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I don't have that.

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I don't have a coin down.

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I'm just having four, yeah, they don't.

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If anybody wants to, you're going to send us the list of the checklist.

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I'm sorry.

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Everyone lives at the challenges of a child.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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But not the whole checklist.

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I can give you.

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This is the whole checklist right here.

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There are four of them.

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But you're not going to send the whole child.

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You send you the whole checklist if you want.

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How do you know some food?

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We usually get a ballot back.

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Oh, the ballots from the November election came back

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as non-deliverable.

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And you also, we haven't had issues detected.

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Some depth were low.

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They came back and we're all under that end of this.

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That's a good one.

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Kelly doesn't give me that information,

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but it could be.

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That's for that.

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You're been married in the uniform.

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Okay, so okay now with the

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Checklist review everybody's vote on that. Yes, thank you. Okay, so we have the new business of the tax assessment appeal from great river hydros and I guess we don't have that.

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So send here. She is not. I wasn't sure about it. Business.

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She's.

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The notices went out in the 21st of July, it was delivered to the West Little Mass, but someone has to sign for it and no one signed for the return reason to be passed it.

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So, she was actually here talking today to the listeners.

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Yes, so.

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But she knows about the meeting.

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Well, I don't, she does know about the meeting now, because I emailed her, but I'm not sure if she knew about it when she talked to Rachel and John today.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no.

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She's in there, where I'm just going to meet with the situation.

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We wasn't really, I think that she was trying to convince us that I was going to

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really ask him to just say, to show the visit that I think was, for instance,

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we were going to say, I was just meeting as much as we were going to say this.

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So I think she said, you know, especially when I met you,

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they were going to see you in the last class.

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So, I did it for this morning because I did not, we see it, we turned, we see you pass the path from the post office, it was delivered on the 24th, she said she had not, we see that she asked me to send her the meeting notice and the procedure left, I did, she asked, she's going to 10 by zoom, she said she'd like.

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She doesn't show up with that.

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Uh, from Rachel, I thought we would, or you would decide on what she wrote, but, right, because she doesn't have to attend.

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Uh, African is not required to attend.

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It's a lady, whatever material we're about the lady has to choose one.

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So we're aware of the little vibe to the music, but she's the one who's playing.

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It's not, I don't feel.

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It's like, you know, I'm the presence.

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Do you like about that?

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I don't think so.

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Yeah.

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I think I'll just talk just a little louder.

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Back in Toronto, of course.

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I don't know.

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Maybe you could stand out so I don't get to it.

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Yes.

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So I cannot have a little explaining what flowage is meant is,

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as I don't really have a similar look.

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It's something like, if there should be a flood,

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It's caused by a dam that's under the auspices and running from a hydro that affects the

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process of land and investments to, they've essentially paid us in advance by aimless taxes

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for this piece of land on funding for the sender manager, and that's been done.

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So they consider it that we should have as far as it.

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So the understanding of flow achievements and how much they might be valued at is far beyond the scope of the world of visitors.

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It's beyond the scope of our contractive assessor I will show with an impact in 2012 to 2013.

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a state of the hot, higher, well-fied necessity to do the whole regular high zone,

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such as, oh, up and down, there are coals, and then convert the housing.

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What do they call?

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And the state then provided towns with the value that that, for example, the signs to see was that the public meeting, what was on the signs to see, okay, I don't remember his first name, so that's an individual.

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And he gave us the value of what they mean, six, whatever, $1,560, $1,569,600.

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right on those. And so the state told the various towns, this is the, this is the values

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that this assessors have done for each town had the discretion to take that,

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the value of the value that they hope to use all of. And within the listers of Westminster

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didn't take the number, they took the $10,000 dollar down that kind of a new sense before a regular

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I've got all of that project.

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Um, I don't know what I'm going to say, I was a few of that.

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And what year was that?

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This was 2013, but I couldn't.

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Um, 2013.

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What happened?

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Well, in 2013, they came in and then said that we made them the state.

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Because the way the gravity works, they got cupping, water level, fire, and the development.

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But then it was, the water came all of the health.

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So they came along and said, it's about 100 foot plane level.

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It was called 100-year-old blood, where I worked in 1888.

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It was all just below the quilt, and it came back

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and said, oh, no, we're off.

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Well, I think I'm giving you right.

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I think it was almost 10 feet.

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And what you've been saying, well, this is going to be devastating.

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Because now they're living in the land

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where there's a lot left because now it's a quilt.

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So we've been arguing, and I would rather

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as all that fire land that is because of the data,

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that all that land is worth a lot of us.

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And that's what they're trying to come back to saying, okay, kind of, the question is, there's not getting the two paths to show it, because it's way under value, because that is the value of the land, it's wetland.

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If there's longer reasons, wetland does the dam is made into the wetland.

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You see what I'm saying?

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That's what I said.

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That's what I think I'm going to say.

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Why have we not spoken for some help on the dam, because they're the ones that devoured all that.

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And that's kind of where I saw a company.

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But the listeners at that moment said,

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oh, we're going to keep the $10,000 value.

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And I think we'll happen in between.

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And then this year for the first time,

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the state of Vermont provided the all the towns

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with all of our new 2,000s.

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So we're not, we're, we've got a chart that's said for,

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how are this much and it's a very solar project with values this and we're just supposed to

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plug these numbers in. Being both an orient with the state and ignorant of how we do it is

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should we value our technologies, put those numbers in and then of course the difference between

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10,000 and a million five to us is noticeable and so.

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But so, remember Hydro didn't attend the grievance hearings.

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They sent a letter, which I guess was a corporation there.

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about today, about how I talk to many people that aren't attached to us because I have no

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way of knowing whether we should allow the movements or not, I don't know what you're saying.

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I wasn't the one who gave the value of that. And so, at some point, frustratingly, the state, nobody

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at the state, nobody in the Department of Taxis would say to me, it shouldn't be this

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value. You know, you should keep this value, you should deny the movements. They said,

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all we can do is provide this information. You can't remain. What you should do, and fact. So

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what I said to sorry was, there was a 90 degree, so we could move forward in process. And somebody

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had a higher pay rate than the more investors would have to figure out what to do. So that's

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I said, what does that 1.5 million mean to the town?

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It's about $38,000 in terms of her dear.

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Right, so if we had changed that number in 2013,

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it was added up quite a bit over the years.

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Just for one year, it's not a huge amount.

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But if we change it to that amount, it stays that for some time.

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And then we found out afterwards we were just led by them there, because the towns and the

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level behind and Vermont on the Kenneker River is moved on the

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Amtra. Whenever good answers, we're going to wear a lot of

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chains of batteries. So it all changed and this happened.

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We're going to like that. That means like,

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Facebook or had to build a building up higher. But so you'll do

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things that aren't way in all that, that can't be developed or

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so you take it. So remember what it is, but in some

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months on, you're not there to help. So we're losing all that

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So the other thing that I could tell you is that Westminster is not the only town, either to have decided against changing their value in terms of a team in the state,

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a lot about rule number, or to now being in the phase of protests from great with a

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cyclone. So other towns are also back in with this. And the state, so here's where I'm

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OK, but that is that we're sort of sort of going to reject the appeal and people move along to a

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we are, you know, negotiate with the real get actual information.

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It's always saying their letters, they don't keep it in 10,000.

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They don't explain why 10,000 is the right value,

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and more than we can explain.

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I think it's a lengthy line.

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I mean, the sign is the right number.

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So, make people who actually don't talk about robots and come in front of them

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something, and what greater than a high-growth law, it's really, is to be able to know, over

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several new communities, what their tax by the world is going to be. They're not necessarily

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stuck on the 10,000, but they just don't want it to do suddenly a million. They want to know what

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some people, but hope at the time the circle will sign and bring it like a three-year-old family

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in the exam, whatever we establish as a civil act to value.

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The one out of piece of information is in 2016,

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the town of Warfully was in this room.

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But they bought a different, different, different, different, non-sensor, so that I can't remember the rule of the bill.

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We assess it, but they came up with a different model for how to value this, this flow, just to be with these new situations.

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And they came to a agreement with the town, who I served with, but suddenly we're in between.

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They're not, obviously, they're not much more exactly the same in the South.

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But it was a similarly high value, they're one of the things.

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So they, regular hydro water, is claiming that the 2013 method that was used is not legitimate.

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The specific court allowed water firms to put the paper, they found the paper, whatever.

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And said, it was just so good to me.

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So that's possible.

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And they can go.

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They can continue on there.

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peanut that has been denied here. They can go, yes, fist-taste, and to

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explain, don't want to go to school, but they won't think it's for us,

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us came, or cost of their name, or for us for how much of this for one year,

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they just want to deal with it. They want to get it settled for once and so.

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So I think we'll just find, I don't know if I have to pull out to move that,

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but I'll move that and just deny them and then go take it to the next step,

333
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and it gives them more additional work.

334
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I think she's not on here, so I think you can, I mean, they're not, yeah, to be present.

335
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So yeah, I mean, the healing wasn't until 630.

336
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It's all, I don't mean that's all right.

337
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I know, I thought the healing was at 6.

338
00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:10,360
No, I think it just is 630.

339
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Great.

340
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We were hiding over that 630.

341
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Oh, we don't know.

342
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Sorry.

343
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But you're telling me hearing that this one.

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We have to, we have to still have a discussion committee to go out and to go back in 30 days.

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We can't just say no.

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We have to actually have the discussion committee to go out with us and that in 30 days.

347
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I mean, it's a new spectrum, and then we know that.

348
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It's gotten the right to be a customer.

349
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They walk up above and now go a group.

350
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That's true.

351
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That's true.

352
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That's true.

353
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Yeah, that's true.

354
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That's true.

355
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That's true.

356
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That's true.

357
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That's true.

358
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That's true.

359
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That's true.

360
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That's true.

361
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That's true.

362
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Wait a minute.

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One person at a job is in the finish.

364
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So they have, like, how I want to think of it,

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which had this fairly, as we did in the day, and then outlawed it,

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though we recorded more of a set of authority,

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more of a set of authority, got a discussion communities,

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then out of still following the wall of the set of the speakers.

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I would think that we're gonna end up,

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I don't know what the expression could be,

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is them trying to find, baby.

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So, I was one more together, but I was like,

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Domestead, and then out of the way,

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we were hiding on a list,

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she's kind of sat down, mulled over to stop,

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came with a phrase, and then the Civil War

377
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before it's like part of a separate argumental.

378
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So that's another point that I have to know more.

379
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Look at them, but we still do that,

380
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so we have to have that inspection.

381
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Thanks, then.

382
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I think that's all I need to say, sir.

383
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What is it?

384
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We have the flood map.

385
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So normally, we can do it if you take the flood map.

386
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And you say, here's all the land and flood.

387
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So let's say it comes back to undernaging

388
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and encourage us up there.

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You can get all the realtor and say,

390
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There's 180 years of concern. What is the peace of land? It's what, what's on

391
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where it's compared to something that isn't possible. And that's a good way to

392
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at least, we have to look at it. And land is the land. It's just, it's just,

393
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certainly not that land that the value is, we might need to go to the value, but

394
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the social, we're going to go to the value rather. It's a good way to go to the value.

395
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Well, yes, but we don't, so we have a lower cat, what they're saying,

396
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people are going to subsidize the lower bats, see what I'm saying?

397
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They're going to fall along and said, all that way,

398
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we're not getting up past because it's in blood.

399
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Right, right, right, right.

400
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So now the height, we'll say, well, we're the ones that cause it to be in the blood zone.

401
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So we're going to subsidize what, what's the area between,

402
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off the soil and down the rocks.

403
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They're in the blood zone, the ladies.

404
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So they're paying less tax, $10 per acre in what's the difference if it wasn't in the

405
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plug-off.

406
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And I don't think you're looking at it and you're looking at the chat, that's what's

407
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this and kind of further out how many acres does it need to be in the plug-off?

408
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You can go through the hard-of-the-hunter solution, right on the fast point of where they're going

409
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up with these numbers.

410
00:27:20,340 --> 00:27:24,360
I'm sure if they're going, I hate to listen to what it's worth, they can negotiate with

411
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you.

412
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You know?

413
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Okay.

414
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And I think as a point of order,

415
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the medicine just as a medicine in Sample,

416
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they didn't go before you can see it.

417
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It's a good vendor.

418
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I know that, it has humble hoardings of these things.

419
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So we have to follow our pursuctions.

420
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,900
Right, I think that means

421
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how everybody do these images in that action and getting

422
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and then come back as a warning for the Internet

423
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or whatever the decide.

424
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Because Dumperson just made a deal with some of the turns

425
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is that how does this have a blackboard, right?

426
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So the basic report too, there is that.

427
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Just there's a way that you'll set down and find out.

428
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OK.

429
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OK.

430
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OK.

431
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So accordingly, when there's BCA and the BCA set down in inspection,

432
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I think that because they have the ammeter formal appeal

433
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to the BCA, right, we have to follow our normal system.

434
00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:18,940
OK, that's true.

435
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That's even.

436
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But is it does it does it very logical that the inspection

437
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would actually be inspection of maps. We don't know what I'm walking around. We are actually looking at maps.

438
00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:39,460
So the inspection is rather silly down to the next.

439
00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:41,300
Yeah, I'm going to be disappointed.

440
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,540
And I'm going to be looking at the flood back.

441
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Yeah.

442
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,860
Asking what that acreage is.

443
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The asking, as you said, what the difference is in a tax value between input and

444
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output.

445
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And then that will represent what they're essentially, but the value that they are taking.

446
00:29:01,420 --> 00:29:02,420
And it's quite possible.

447
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I mean, that we don't know.

448
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And we can just deny it to that.

449
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for each of those to the next step, too, which we did at one of the things that are sold

450
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at a bar in the first 20 to 10. I don't know, when you need to be all of that, and we work

451
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a quick business of recedes, and I'm just going to have a value of that, and this is a

452
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night, and I'm not going to like further on, and we let the state decide. So we have a couple of choices

453
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here with a point of our inspection committee, get a whole bit of these maps and talk to a

454
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wheelchair, or whatever wheelchair that committee's the left to figure out those numbers

455
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or just deny it because we're not, we're not.

456
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We post together an inspection committee of minimum three people when we have had the tax appeal, that committee, it's not the listeners, per se, that committee goes out and does an inspection.

457
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:28,260
So that, if we appoint a committee as appointed, that committee is responsible for getting these maps and getting the, you know,

458
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:37,940
contrasting land values. So what we're trying to do is get rid of the $10,000 to $10,000 to $1,000, but I don't think we're trying to do that.

459
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:45,100
I think yeah. We're really in buy right now. What we'll have to do is satisfy the requirement.

460
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:14,500
I don't want to, I don't want to, to denigrate anybody's ability to learn this really, really quickly.

461
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:28,640
I do question, I mean, it seems to me that there's a lot of expertise that is needed in order to, in order to, to fairly evaluate this question.

462
00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:32,800
And I myself do not feel like I have it.

463
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,540
trying to point out though it's really between the list of the list of the list

464
00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:45,160
we're not beyond the limit because they're the ones that set it away. So the

465
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committee we can, what we're right here for now, and what's fair, what will the

466
00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:54,320
list of the correct, or they're correct, or somewhere in the middle. So yeah, so

467
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,180
either I think our choice of either go with what the list would say in the

468
00:31:58,180 --> 00:32:02,860
1.5 for involvement meeting, you'll little or more research and come back.

469
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That's done.

470
00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:07,560
Right, that's good, John.

471
00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:10,940
We're going to think we have to inform many, I think that's probably true.

472
00:32:11,460 --> 00:32:11,740
Right.

473
00:32:12,540 --> 00:32:12,660
Right.

474
00:32:12,660 --> 00:32:14,400
So I think we should inform the committee.

475
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And then the committee then do whatever they want to do.

476
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,440
I guess they come back and kind of let's check some maps.

477
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,500
They did.

478
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:30,900
maybe there's a research and a list of that, then we go over there,

479
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,220
meeting that then we vote on what we're going to accept as a law.

480
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:43,830
Well, I think so right now I'm going to feel a little confused about what our options have.

481
00:32:44,050 --> 00:32:51,510
It's our options just the committee and have them do the research or do we say the BCA

482
00:32:51,510 --> 00:32:58,990
is not, doesn't have the expertise to really approach this. But Peggy, you said that it happened

483
00:32:58,990 --> 00:33:06,850
differently in the days ago before we see it when it happened. So I think that back in this

484
00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:15,290
they came to us as a taxidfoil that we have to file our procedure. Okay, that's it.

485
00:33:15,290 --> 00:33:24,530
And what we do with what the committee recommends to the greater board, then that's what we decide which to be done.

486
00:33:25,290 --> 00:33:28,250
So, to be with me, that I think it would be tonight.

487
00:33:28,790 --> 00:33:30,110
I mean, give us some things here.

488
00:33:30,490 --> 00:33:34,510
We're not able for a tiny base base that aren't in it.

489
00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:37,130
We have no knowledge of anything you have to.

490
00:33:37,690 --> 00:33:40,350
But I think that that's really to this inspection.

491
00:33:41,230 --> 00:33:43,690
So if we did not,

492
00:33:43,690 --> 00:33:45,850
Then we automatically go to a committee.

493
00:33:46,350 --> 00:33:47,830
No, it sounds like a whole can't deny it.

494
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:48,750
I can't deny it.

495
00:33:48,890 --> 00:33:50,830
We have to have a committee. That's the kind of,

496
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:53,350
Okay, so that the Americans are only one option.

497
00:33:53,970 --> 00:33:57,850
Yes, so at this point it's a committee of minimum of three people.

498
00:33:58,750 --> 00:34:02,930
And then that committee will decide how they want to do this.

499
00:34:03,130 --> 00:34:04,710
You know, they can, I mean,

500
00:34:04,730 --> 00:34:07,550
I think if you just sort of imagining,

501
00:34:08,610 --> 00:34:10,870
if you involve a realtor,

502
00:34:10,870 --> 00:34:16,070
how they get to have to pay that realtor to make these assessments.

503
00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:23,870
It's not a matter of real or sale value.

504
00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:25,310
It's not a taxable value.

505
00:34:25,650 --> 00:34:31,310
It's a matter of how much do we appraise something in the blood zone and not the blood zone.

506
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:35,450
We have, we already do that.

507
00:34:36,190 --> 00:34:39,730
We already appraised up at certain amounts.

508
00:34:39,730 --> 00:34:52,850
You know, a agricultural land at flood zone, and not at flood, and so that's the difference, that figure times number of acreage, essentially it's pretty simple, put it up.

509
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:53,830
Thank you.

510
00:34:54,210 --> 00:34:58,130
I guess a lot of people are in the pool.

511
00:34:58,690 --> 00:35:03,830
They normally, again, do it in the pool while they normally come in and defend their number.

512
00:35:03,830 --> 00:35:09,690
See what I'm saying, they're coming in and all. It's not 10,000, but it's, you know, 7, 5, 5, 5,

513
00:35:09,870 --> 00:35:16,710
they are not keeping us anything back. So this is a little different because normally we get to choose.

514
00:35:17,470 --> 00:35:24,050
Okay, here's the list. Here's what they are, where you can pick a number. In this case, we cut these and throw a number.

515
00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:28,190
That's why I'm going to think that I'm going to make it ready. But it all shows you.

516
00:35:28,210 --> 00:35:31,170
I think they might think that the 1.5 is right.

517
00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:47,350
Or let or you may know it's all right. So I think we're at the point where we need to appoint a

518
00:35:47,350 --> 00:36:01,150
committee to pursue this and we need minimum of three. So I'm later just a

519
00:36:01,150 --> 00:36:07,610
So they have, I'm not sure if that's out of the question, to chat with the Minister of the

520
00:36:07,610 --> 00:36:08,870
Tannabins or BCA.

521
00:36:10,610 --> 00:36:11,750
It really varies.

522
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:15,130
The thing is, like, rock again won't be because they're above the day.

523
00:36:15,350 --> 00:36:21,150
So they don't have the same environment as you get below the day in the town or more.

524
00:36:22,570 --> 00:36:24,630
So if you're on your favor, you're about to flee.

525
00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:27,430
So rock again as you know, they're above the day.

526
00:36:27,710 --> 00:36:29,370
Or what would they be complaining about?

527
00:36:31,150 --> 00:36:40,370
Well, that's so one thing that Johnson did want down was where the last time the damn burning was the damn that's

528
00:36:40,370 --> 00:36:43,010
I think the right potential.

529
00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:46,530
You said, well, just below the next one.

530
00:36:46,970 --> 00:36:53,870
And there's the scene where we're the least there with the least, like the picture that they want and grab you.

531
00:36:54,250 --> 00:36:57,690
But that is actually the correct one.

532
00:36:59,090 --> 00:37:07,070
The level of the main of the water passable to Burndown was not the same level as the water that flooded

533
00:37:07,070 --> 00:37:07,910
Alan Brothers.

534
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:15,370
And it's because the actual flow of how much it's state out of the upper upper down created

535
00:37:15,370 --> 00:37:23,010
in a, the river was going very fast between Westminster and Vernon representing a lot of

536
00:37:23,010 --> 00:37:29,790
fall and so the flood level coming up to good else here.

537
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:41,100
Was a lot higher, out to then the top of the front of the van, by who it did. So they're all given that they've burned in damn, discovering that the church.

538
00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:43,720
And as if it was because if you have a sale pool of water.

539
00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:50,900
Yeah, this was actually something really expert, like hydrologists.

540
00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:57,980
Just needed, even, if I understand how this is important, it's not just about who can excuse me.

541
00:37:57,980 --> 00:38:23,450
Yeah, right, whereas the hydro, the Great River, the hydro representative is here, really says, so I guess we can do it for him. After all this, I guess

542
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,540
we can do it for him, after all this.

543
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,080
Thank you.

544
00:38:52,430 --> 00:38:52,970
Hello.

545
00:38:54,930 --> 00:38:55,110
Hello.

546
00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:02,000
Okay, so we're going to welcome you to this meeting.

547
00:39:02,620 --> 00:39:05,500
Are you're here to represent Great River Hydra?

548
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,520
Is that correct?

549
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:07,580
That is correct.

550
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,580
And are you Jocelyn?

551
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,200
I am.

552
00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:13,960
Okay.

553
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:20,880
Well, the Board of Civil Authorities here and the

554
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:36,740
room for this hearing. So I would like to first of all, I need to have the applicant, which is you,

555
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:46,440
take up the following oath. So under the pains and penalties of perjury, do you solemnly

556
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:53,440
where the evidence you gave in the cause under consideration shall be the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

557
00:39:54,820 --> 00:40:06,080
Yes. Okay, thank you for that. And at this point, I also need to ask the board if there's any conflict of interest that exists

558
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:11,900
or ex-partate communication that's taking place about this feeling.

559
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:16,470
None.

560
00:40:17,490 --> 00:40:23,150
You're also okay. Did you receive a copy of the board's rules of procedure?

561
00:40:25,370 --> 00:40:35,470
Yes. And we have a question to about that. I do not. Okay. Okay. So I'm with a

562
00:40:35,470 --> 00:40:44,510
to ask you to identify the statutory abatement category that the abatement request is made under.

563
00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:56,280
So there is a visit check on one that abatement category is.

564
00:40:59,020 --> 00:40:59,420
Yes.

565
00:40:59,420 --> 00:41:02,310
You'll have contact with me.

566
00:41:02,430 --> 00:41:02,970
It's just a second.

567
00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:03,470
Remove them.

568
00:41:03,970 --> 00:41:04,970
Then I'll check that out.

569
00:41:05,650 --> 00:41:07,910
It's not pale, but then they will.

570
00:41:08,350 --> 00:41:08,950
It will be just.

571
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:11,190
So this is, oh, I'm sorry.

572
00:41:11,790 --> 00:41:13,170
Packs will be a sign of something else.

573
00:41:13,630 --> 00:41:14,530
Please, there we can.

574
00:41:14,610 --> 00:41:16,590
This is my first time to manage this.

575
00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:17,050
Okay.

576
00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:17,710
So it's accessible.

577
00:41:20,740 --> 00:41:20,860
So.

578
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:22,440
All right.

579
00:41:22,540 --> 00:41:23,020
I'm sorry.

580
00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:23,840
The next.

581
00:41:26,060 --> 00:41:26,860
After the.

582
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:27,760
There were questions.

583
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,380
And this flows in a conflict of interest.

584
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:42,040
The next step you are is to ask the listeners to introduce the prophet in an appeal by describing the property in its present valuation, which we already.

585
00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:46,640
We actually spoke about that before you.

586
00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:50,500
I think it's a meeting but we're able to do that again.

587
00:41:51,640 --> 00:42:01,120
So, I'll come to this year with his, he's been down in the $10,000, this year, the State Department

588
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:10,580
tax is providing towns with new utility assessments rather than us getting them from the

589
00:42:10,580 --> 00:42:11,520
So it's dreadful.

590
00:42:12,820 --> 00:42:19,940
We provided this money when we had this information for his father that I was in 10,000

591
00:42:19,940 --> 00:42:20,300
companies.

592
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:29,600
And it was based on a 2013 raiseover at the state contract for the whole building that I

593
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:41,520
system. And so the listeners have, I guess, the discussion took that number

594
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:48,040
not exactly, but because it was beyond our knowledge to know what this has

595
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,520
meant to be. In fact, the knowledge and the time is shown on top of the

596
00:42:52,520 --> 00:43:00,700
a razor after conversations with people and they felt in taxes, those just decided to

597
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:07,160
move to the state's number, and you know, I don't know what's going on in the head with

598
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:16,200
so that we would move to this step because it's a outside of our ability to judge another

599
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,100
this is that. Thank you for that.

600
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,520
And would

601
00:43:28,270 --> 00:43:35,170
can you, Jocelyn, please present the evaluation and your sporting evidence

602
00:43:35,170 --> 00:43:39,670
that according to your field?

603
00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:48,470
Yes. So, the letter that we provided for the appeal stated that we

604
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:55,290
our opinion is that there's no change in value and our opinion is that because while we understand

605
00:43:55,290 --> 00:44:01,890
that the town or the board of listeners is being told by the state of Vermont to change the

606
00:44:01,890 --> 00:44:13,830
value in one single year for a value to change by over 15,000 per cent is un proportional and

607
00:44:13,830 --> 00:44:29,750
truly unfair to any taxpayer. Our property taxes went from $240 to $42,000. And I don't think

608
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:37,530
any other taxpayer in the community would agree to be treated that way. I looked at the

609
00:44:37,530 --> 00:44:44,070
schedule that the listers provided. It's a land schedule for 2013 and in that land schedule,

610
00:44:44,290 --> 00:44:52,070
it shows at most a 35% increase in value from one year to the next. So 15,000

611
00:44:52,070 --> 00:44:59,190
person seems a little out of bounds and just to give a little background to the board as to what

612
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:59,970
low-age youth.

613
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:10,260
These flowed easements were acquired by our predecessor during the time when the Vernon dam was constructed in plans.

614
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:18,480
Those flowed easements were to protect the company from being sued by other taxpayers.

615
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:28,640
At this point in time, when these were acquired, there was the hydroelectric facility was not federally regulated.

616
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:34,720
At this point in time, the dam and hydroelectric facility are federally regulated.

617
00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:45,180
Therefore, the Federal Power Act, which is a part of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission's rules and laws,

618
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:56,200
They preempt any ability that a landowner could sue us because we are governed by a federal license.

619
00:45:56,860 --> 00:46:05,220
Therefore, any of the properties that have this slowage easement on them could not sue the facility,

620
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:10,980
because we have the right in our FERC license to operate the facility of a certain elevation.

621
00:46:10,980 --> 00:46:17,320
And we comply with that, and anytime we were to not comply with that,

622
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:23,460
FERC would find us, or they would tell us, you know, there would be some repercussions.

623
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:30,360
Anytime the operating level does it exceed what we were allowed,

624
00:46:30,980 --> 00:46:35,180
it is typically during that time when there is a natural disaster or a flood,

625
00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:37,260
which is beyond our control.

626
00:46:37,260 --> 00:46:46,100
We don't control one mother nature, drops a couple feet of water, we just move the water as best we can.

627
00:46:47,540 --> 00:46:59,040
And so the report that the state is referencing is referencing about 1,046 acres of flowage easements.

628
00:46:59,820 --> 00:47:04,280
So these are, these are easements over somebody else's land.

629
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:11,740
In most cases, those landowners are able to use the land as they see fit because we impact

630
00:47:11,740 --> 00:47:14,880
their land very minimally.

631
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:21,500
It is typically within the 100-year flood zone, meaning that there is a 1% chance annually

632
00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:23,520
that they could flood.

633
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:31,000
And the way that we are being valued is at $1500 per acre.

634
00:47:31,000 --> 00:48:00,080
What I looked at the Landschedule, it caps out at 48 acres or $1,600 an acre, so that means whatever the land is being taxed, it's almost double dipping because we're being taxed $1,500 an acre, the other taxpayers being taxed $1,600 an acre, so we are paying almost as much as somebody that actually owns the land.

635
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,000
We don't own any land.

636
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,600
We just have the right to flow water on the land if we must.

637
00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:11,740
And so, go ahead.

638
00:48:12,020 --> 00:48:12,960
Question for it.

639
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,060
Would you also wait a minute.

640
00:48:14,180 --> 00:48:15,700
We're going to have questions when you just

641
00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:16,160
two people.

642
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,220
OK, you're going to have to answer.

643
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:18,820
OK.

644
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:20,480
I almost done.

645
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:26,940
But in all, it is our opinion that because of this preemption

646
00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:34,560
and because of the fact that we are federally licensed, there shouldn't be any change in value.

647
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,700
Though the state is dictating it,

648
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,280
we don't want to fight with the town about this.

649
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:48,660
We would like to reach a reasonable resolution where we are paying our fair share of property

650
00:48:48,660 --> 00:48:59,780
taxes but not out of 15,000% increase. And so we would like to find a middle ground between

651
00:48:59,780 --> 00:49:05,100
what the town has and what we have to reach a reasonable resolution, what we can still pay

652
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:12,960
our proportionate amount of property taxes and Westminster. We enjoyed being a part of the community.

653
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,920
I was talking to the listeners about just introducing myself.

654
00:49:18,540 --> 00:49:23,380
Many of our employees live and go to Westminster daily.

655
00:49:24,060 --> 00:49:30,680
We don't want to have any conflicts, but we also can't walk away from a $15,000 increase.

656
00:49:31,420 --> 00:49:33,160
It's just unfair.

657
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,480
And so, that's the end of it.

658
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:40,700
Thanks. Thank you for that.

659
00:49:40,700 --> 00:50:08,470
So I have the next step here to ask the listeners to respond to the information presented by the

660
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:16,210
use the number that the state provides, because we have no basis for it, but we have no

661
00:50:16,210 --> 00:50:23,330
need to remember it. And I'm happy that a great reminder of the months to talk to you,

662
00:50:23,370 --> 00:50:29,370
especially with us, which have a simple conversation about something I read. But at this point,

663
00:50:29,830 --> 00:50:38,310
the listers don't have any basis for, in a sense, except in a night, except in either of the 10,000

664
00:50:38,310 --> 00:50:46,370
that if we're meaning plus we just don't have the average of the Jews and I have so now that

665
00:50:46,370 --> 00:50:53,650
questions from them we see a state of danger on the sweatboard. I would like to know for how many years

666
00:50:53,650 --> 00:51:02,310
prior to 2013 what prior to now the flowage easing was valued at $10,000. When was the $10,000

667
00:51:02,310 --> 00:51:09,810
value established. And what was the value when the Vernon Dam was installed in the early

668
00:51:09,810 --> 00:51:10,770
19th century?

669
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:19,420
I can get the number just one second for how long it's been 10,000 dollars.

670
00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:24,860
As for what the value was when Vernon Dam was constructed,

671
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,480
I don't have that. I can tell you that

672
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,160
And these flowage easements were acquired.

673
00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:39,000
There was no monetary value exchange

674
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,480
between the company and the landowner.

675
00:51:45,930 --> 00:51:47,910
It was a, no, sorry.

676
00:51:48,730 --> 00:51:53,750
What I am referencing here is you're worried

677
00:51:53,750 --> 00:52:00,510
about a rapid increase in value, what I am suspecting

678
00:52:00,510 --> 00:52:05,710
is that change in value represents nearly as centuries

679
00:52:05,710 --> 00:52:07,870
worth the change in land value.

680
00:52:07,970 --> 00:52:11,350
Unless you can demonstrate otherwise,

681
00:52:12,970 --> 00:52:16,890
it's quite possible that it sat at $10,000

682
00:52:16,890 --> 00:52:18,830
for a very long time.

683
00:52:22,290 --> 00:52:25,650
So I showed it's been $10,000 since 2015.

684
00:52:25,950 --> 00:52:29,970
Prior to that, it was 11,500 within.

685
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,080
The realm of the 10,000, going back.

686
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:45,590
But the way to value an easement peripraisals is what is the land worth

687
00:52:45,590 --> 00:52:56,150
without the easement, so valuing the actual landowners property and then valuing what a

688
00:52:56,150 --> 00:53:03,030
willing buyer would pay for that property with the easement on it. And the difference between

689
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:10,350
what the willing buyer would pay with the easement subtracted by the value of the property

690
00:53:10,350 --> 00:53:17,490
without the easement is the value of the easement. And from what I've experienced and

691
00:53:18,690 --> 00:53:25,530
It looks at a lot of the land along the kind of care river is farmland.

692
00:53:25,950 --> 00:53:32,590
It is the best farmland in New England and whoever is buying those properties to use it

693
00:53:32,590 --> 00:53:36,610
from farmland doesn't care that there is an easement on it.

694
00:53:36,810 --> 00:53:40,730
They're using it for the production of their farm.

695
00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:59,670
And so the impacts of the easement is nil because they're still willing to use that land and pay what it costs for that land to be able to farm it because it's fantastic land.

696
00:53:59,670 --> 00:54:06,710
It may be fantastic land, but it's flooded, it damages the crops, does the flooding

697
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:09,930
easements result in some flooded?

698
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,120
Not under our operations.

699
00:54:15,860 --> 00:54:24,020
If there is flooding, it is typically because of a natural disaster.

700
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:30,460
What our dams do when we have high water, they're ultimately invisible.

701
00:54:30,460 --> 00:54:42,020
We just pass water through them. We are actually, you know, helping communities with less flooding because we're moving the water out of the way.

702
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:53,460
We are not creating the flooding or else it would be flooded every single day from our operations. Our FERC license does not allow that.

703
00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:58,120
That would not seem to be the implication of something called flooding easements.

704
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,040
It's a flow of achievement.

705
00:55:00,260 --> 00:55:03,220
It's the right to flow if necessary.

706
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,800
It is not the right to flood indefinitely.

707
00:55:09,940 --> 00:55:11,140
I have a question from Craig.

708
00:55:12,860 --> 00:55:15,320
I've been laid on over there.

709
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,720
I was strongly disagree with everything you said.

710
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:24,580
What is it's a trivial adjust to farm land, but when only you can only use a farm land

711
00:55:24,580 --> 00:55:29,320
So how do I know the West News you're more about the fact that's this tank and I get our facts

712
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,140
It's because it can never be and can't put homes. We can't do anything

713
00:55:33,140 --> 00:55:35,300
That's all we've done over your day and over your butt

714
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,080
Set the part if you said it's not our fault. Yes, it is because I pulled the boards up

715
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,880
He's flooded every year because you don't have not seen it

716
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,840
and it's all coming from Goals. Oh, Ben doing this. Ben they're all on my life.

717
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:53,880
Watch your place get flooded all the time. Okay. So, yes, it lowers the value of that

718
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:59,640
all of that matter because everybody knows it's floods. And meanwhile, all that land is not paying

719
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,340
in the tax, and it should have to the town where it was ministered because everybody looks at

720
00:56:04,340 --> 00:56:10,520
home and don't want this because it floods. Everyone's in the wild. My big argument is the

721
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:26,680
And from what the new people are really smart people, the standard market was smart enough to come up with a formula that come back and said if you're a mathematical formula, the set of the board 1.5 million, I came to the same one people have come back and said no, they're formula is wrong.

722
00:56:27,180 --> 00:56:33,240
because they didn't print 1.5 billion out of the air and they say here it is. They came up with

723
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:38,200
a system that said, this is how we get you. And first thing we were going to this committee

724
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,920
should go and ask the state to do is how did you get there? Because they came up with a number,

725
00:56:43,220 --> 00:56:46,920
do people have to come up with any number and I don't blame you because you've been all these years,

726
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:53,300
but I'll get what I'm painting their fair share. But they come back and say it's 10,000, even though

727
00:56:53,300 --> 00:56:59,640
Long reason was 10, because the listeners didn't know what to do with it, and just lowered it even from the 11,000.

728
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:04,760
But I can't believe that you guys can't calculate a formula of that for the same form of the state,

729
00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:10,840
because in just the pre-plos and numbers, I'm with you on that. But to come here and pick a number out of the sky,

730
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,800
says a bunch of ways to

731
00:57:16,030 --> 00:57:20,750
find it. Is the farm land in a floodplain?

732
00:57:20,750 --> 00:57:25,010
It is within the 100 year floodplain.

733
00:57:25,210 --> 00:57:31,770
It is supposed to be, it's in an area that is okay to flood.

734
00:57:32,590 --> 00:57:34,910
It is that way up and down the river.

735
00:57:36,290 --> 00:57:41,290
People don't build houses in floodplains because it may flood.

736
00:57:41,550 --> 00:57:47,450
It had a 1 to 10% chance of flooding depending on where you are.

737
00:57:48,190 --> 00:57:55,830
If the farmland was not flooded, would it be as great as, would the soil be as great as it is?

738
00:57:56,190 --> 00:57:59,790
No, because that's how soil becomes richer.

739
00:58:03,610 --> 00:58:05,770
This is pretty much it ain't it's.

740
00:58:05,770 --> 00:58:08,330
wa ho sandfish is 100.

741
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:12,210
But right now on that farmland lives.

742
00:58:12,790 --> 00:58:14,470
Our farmer's with square was 100.

743
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:19,710
150 thousand dollars to loft are peleans.

744
00:58:21,490 --> 00:58:21,690
Yeah,

745
00:58:21,870 --> 00:58:22,590
swiss it bundles.

746
00:58:23,590 --> 00:58:25,030
People going to buy a second.

747
00:58:25,250 --> 00:58:25,930
Yeah.

748
00:58:26,190 --> 00:58:29,250
Sometime, we can't because of the water from the river.

749
00:58:29,250 --> 00:58:36,350
Sometimes contaminates the farmland and you can't use it or you can use it, but there are

750
00:58:36,350 --> 00:58:42,470
on the disease happening in there. So that lowers the value of the problem.

751
00:58:43,890 --> 00:58:48,430
So yeah, we don't look forward to the farmland main wasn't really good enough.

752
00:58:48,890 --> 00:58:50,090
Not a good idea of

753
00:58:52,490 --> 00:58:56,030
them. Maybe historically that's how that was rich.

754
00:58:57,650 --> 00:59:03,030
Yeah, but it's a different line now.

755
00:59:04,410 --> 00:59:07,890
So I was being contaminated and taken away.

756
00:59:08,130 --> 00:59:10,550
Basically, I talked so many things for them.

757
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:13,930
So there was another thing.

758
00:59:14,890 --> 00:59:16,130
Okay, I started picking.

759
00:59:16,790 --> 00:59:18,790
So Chastana, I just been clarity.

760
00:59:19,410 --> 00:59:23,430
In West Beach, there's 28 acres to sell that I've been missing.

761
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:28,110
No, the 48 acres was what was capped in the land schedule.

762
00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:35,370
So it only lists to a maximum of 48 acres when it's estimating the value.

763
00:59:35,490 --> 00:59:38,870
So that was the highest number that I could use for comparison.

764
00:59:40,490 --> 00:59:46,330
And your company does not have a figure for the value of this.

765
00:59:46,330 --> 00:59:51,030
You're not putting forth a figure for us to consider.

766
00:59:52,770 --> 00:59:55,110
We propose that it seems the same as that.

767
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:56,150
Pardon me?

768
00:59:56,350 --> 00:59:58,590
We proposed that it seems the same.

769
00:59:58,750 --> 00:59:59,630
It seems the same.

770
01:00:18,370 --> 01:00:28,090
I think we've heard all the testimony that we need. I mean, questions answered.

771
01:00:29,050 --> 01:00:32,110
Sure, no more questions. Okay, so.

772
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:45,480
At this point, I think we're all set with you and very much appreciate your coming by Zoom to the meeting and we're going to.

773
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:50,720
I would be interested when the inspection is going to be as I would like to partake.

774
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:57,480
Okay, we'll let you know that's, you know, that's part of our job there is to.

775
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:03,320
I'll be found there in the session with what's up, please.

776
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:03,700
Okay.

777
01:01:04,460 --> 01:01:04,680
Okay.

778
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:05,620
Thanks.

779
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:09,360
The more we will note if you buy you by email.

780
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:10,640
Is that out of there?

781
01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:11,660
Yes.

782
01:01:12,140 --> 01:01:12,540
Thank you.

783
01:01:13,340 --> 01:01:14,080
Thank you.

784
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:14,100
Thank you.

785
01:01:14,620 --> 01:01:14,740
Thank you.

786
01:01:15,260 --> 01:01:15,560
Thank you.

787
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,120
Thank you.

788
01:01:22,310 --> 01:01:22,590
Okay.

789
01:01:23,090 --> 01:01:23,970
Do we need a motion?

790
01:01:25,370 --> 01:01:31,370
Well, we need a motion to avoid the inspection duty at this point.

791
01:01:31,370 --> 01:01:34,350
Did you want to make a motion another?

792
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:43,570
I don't know whether we need a motion to deny a appeal and then about a point inspection committee or whether the first step was to point.

793
01:01:43,930 --> 01:01:47,930
The first step is to point the individual inspection community.

794
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:52,520
Okay.

795
01:01:53,620 --> 01:01:56,440
So I would like to.

796
01:01:59,230 --> 01:02:01,230
is your second to mass motion?

797
01:02:01,670 --> 01:02:03,410
Yes, I'm out a second name.

798
01:02:03,470 --> 01:02:03,670
Who?

799
01:02:04,830 --> 01:02:05,430
Matters.

800
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:05,910
I'll leave.

801
01:02:06,210 --> 01:02:06,730
Oh, master.

802
01:02:07,270 --> 01:02:07,910
Thank you.

803
01:02:11,230 --> 01:02:11,510
Okay.

804
01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:12,990
Thank you.

805
01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:16,170
So you're looking forward to it.

806
01:02:16,170 --> 01:02:16,790
I'm looking.

807
01:02:17,090 --> 01:02:19,690
I'm looking forward to it.

808
01:02:19,970 --> 01:02:20,690
You're being on the cliff.

809
01:02:21,550 --> 01:02:22,150
Okay.

810
01:02:22,910 --> 01:02:23,670
Thanks, Matt.

811
01:02:28,860 --> 01:02:29,580
I guess so.

812
01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:31,540
Thank you.

813
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:32,260
Okay.

814
01:02:32,260 --> 01:02:34,260
Somebody to listen to that.

815
01:02:35,180 --> 01:02:36,780
All you said was the thing that I'm going to ask.

816
01:02:37,180 --> 01:02:38,000
I can jump on this.

817
01:02:39,060 --> 01:02:40,940
So that's very fair.

818
01:02:41,340 --> 01:02:41,700
Thank you.

819
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:43,740
I'm going to take a few words.

820
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,100
Oh, I recommend.

821
01:02:45,620 --> 01:02:51,480
Yes, that's the committee's try to get original documentation, and we're going to

822
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,180
maybe take some.

823
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:53,800
You see the time.

824
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,880
What, whatever the model is.

825
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,120
I said that we used that.

826
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,320
That play for the state of the play.

827
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:10,500
for the result of this joint jump, okay, and then that they get to be 2016 more for four

828
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:18,260
cases that established a different mechanism for calculating the field of the field of the

829
01:03:18,260 --> 01:03:28,160
chip. Waterbird mechanism, as well as the 2013 Stabilmont mechanism for establishing the

830
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:36,640
be, but what he's advised was, because they're saying, whatever, however, they did it into

831
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:45,480
any 13, and if that has been, I don't know, maybe irrelevant or more.

832
01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:46,460
By the law, I don't know.

833
01:03:46,460 --> 01:03:52,020
Phil, don't you know, I can be proper way to find this court case that was, I don't know,

834
01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:53,340
26, and that was 26, and I don't know.

835
01:03:53,340 --> 01:04:02,640
And do they, is there any logical, yearly inflation in that land value to the interest of this song?

836
01:04:03,140 --> 01:04:04,240
Well, so what do we do?

837
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:23,080
I mean, everyone knows this in the way that nasal works in the mind is we have a time where we raise it up.

838
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,540
perhaps this fall was not held by law, this fall was not held by law, this fall was held by

839
01:04:27,540 --> 01:04:33,080
Zee. And then that states that the same thing, their scheduled sports is a, you know,

840
01:04:33,740 --> 01:04:40,620
the quality of the roof thing, the deck and everything. Those mortifiers stay the same

841
01:04:40,620 --> 01:04:47,360
until the next time like you're present. So here, if you don't have any house today, we're

842
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,460
We saw that there was a brand new place.

843
01:04:50,860 --> 01:04:54,580
It's building right now at the 2013 nonprofit value

844
01:04:54,580 --> 01:04:56,560
for one of the second minutes in the next.

845
01:04:57,180 --> 01:04:58,820
The debt in the house of that night.

846
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,460
So that well there's the inflation in the market.

847
01:05:04,140 --> 01:05:05,180
It doesn't, it doesn't.

848
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:05,980
So what?

849
01:05:05,980 --> 01:05:08,120
That kind of thing in the, in the assessment.

850
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,840
The phase of the current submission.

851
01:05:11,420 --> 01:05:15,140
But actually, the 20th or 19th number will be the 20th or 19th.

852
01:05:15,140 --> 01:05:20,500
That's one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we went over to the 28th one. Yeah.

853
01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:24,720
Yeah. That's cute. It's just way outside or moment we have quite close step. Thank you.

854
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:33,440
Thanks Rebecca. Well, I think it was coincidence that we did have it as on 2013 and this

855
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,660
no longer thanks on the stage or in 2013. But it's going to be positive. It's positive.

856
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:45,100
Okay.

857
01:05:45,100 --> 01:05:51,680
We need that. We can hopefully kind of answer. We can help us get that information from the state.

858
01:05:53,380 --> 01:05:56,420
And I don't know how we can get the water for it.

859
01:05:56,420 --> 01:05:58,780
Well, I assume it's a matter of public records.

860
01:06:00,020 --> 01:06:00,040
Yeah.

861
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:00,180
Yeah.

862
01:06:00,620 --> 01:06:01,400
It's a good place.

863
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,400
is it okay if so?

864
01:06:04,860 --> 01:06:05,900
Should we?

865
01:06:05,900 --> 01:06:10,420
We, we, we belong to the cities and towns offers a lot of help.

866
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,120
There's now this and there.

867
01:06:12,660 --> 01:06:17,660
We should also be able to jump to the civil-born and medium vehicle of those.

868
01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:19,080
I remember.

869
01:06:19,740 --> 01:06:21,380
And then we'll, parents will have to.

870
01:06:21,740 --> 01:06:22,760
They have been, they have been, they have been.

871
01:06:23,460 --> 01:06:24,240
They have been.

872
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:29,540
Sometimes so we have our committee unless somebody else would like to join the committee as well.

873
01:06:31,490 --> 01:06:33,390
It was already the same.

874
01:06:34,050 --> 01:06:35,590
Well, we need one more.

875
01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:37,770
It is a very long series.

876
01:06:38,050 --> 01:06:39,890
Yeah, I didn't mean nice to have somebody else.

877
01:06:40,070 --> 01:06:41,490
You know, it's just.

878
01:06:43,570 --> 01:06:44,130
Okay.

879
01:06:46,350 --> 01:06:47,830
Okay, so we got to come.

880
01:06:48,090 --> 01:06:49,570
So we're going to.

881
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:55,040
Well, what we're supposed to do in this situation was

882
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:59,780
to inspect the property and set a date and a time set by the chair to

883
01:06:59,780 --> 01:07:02,920
that's the property and reported selling these back to the busier.

884
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,640
But we're not really going to do that because we're not going to go out and inspect property.

885
01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:10,580
We're going to do our digging to research.

886
01:07:10,780 --> 01:07:19,580
Well, we could do my time for getting the information from the state.

887
01:07:20,260 --> 01:07:27,780
We could be doing our map research as here, it's not.

888
01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:29,840
I don't think it's going to be too neat but done.

889
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:50,180
We need to set up date to recess, not more than 30 days from now, to bring our information back to the board.

890
01:07:50,180 --> 01:07:54,760
So, yes, and she also asked that she would like to be a part of that inspection.

891
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,960
Yes, she wants to know the data inspection.

892
01:07:57,060 --> 01:07:59,800
Yeah, yeah, so I think that you've got to, okay, something.

893
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,000
So we have to have something available to learn.

894
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:04,660
All right.

895
01:08:04,780 --> 01:08:05,920
What's sort of time for?

896
01:08:06,180 --> 01:08:10,480
30 days, within 30 days from to get more fast to do.

897
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:12,080
Well.

898
01:08:12,860 --> 01:08:16,380
So how do we get her if we're just doing research and we're not actually,

899
01:08:16,380 --> 01:08:23,540
Well, we were in my research to get information from the state, and then we had our own

900
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,860
flood control maps in our town.

901
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,260
And she already has the acreage.

902
01:08:32,260 --> 01:08:34,620
It was a thousand forty one or something she mentioned.

903
01:08:35,340 --> 01:08:40,840
The flowage, the acreage covered by the flowage is what the thousands of of.

904
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:45,520
And, which, which makes me suspect is about 10,000.

905
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,180
That's in 1921, it's up to you.

906
01:08:49,320 --> 01:09:03,780
And so we, we want to be prepared by don't think we need to find much more than what you

907
01:09:03,780 --> 01:09:03,880
do.

908
01:09:03,900 --> 01:09:07,460
Why is he suggested that we know how.

909
01:09:07,460 --> 01:09:08,560
And the state is absolute.

910
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:17,340
But they're in a bad, they're in a lot of your tests that's full of wrinkle and that's not sure that we can go out and find a vision.

911
01:09:18,340 --> 01:09:25,700
Like when we both, like others, we're not always supposed to get with the list of your tell us,

912
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:30,700
and we have what the panel tells us, we're not supposed to go out and find the throttle.

913
01:09:30,820 --> 01:09:32,580
Yeah, you know, we're right on that.

914
01:09:32,580 --> 01:09:43,520
Yeah, I think that you're, but that's a kind of like, you know, hard place here because we can't really, we're always supposed to take the testimony, hopefully, right, and that's supposed to go fine.

915
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:44,680
Right. Okay.

916
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,280
So I don't know if that's something that we could do on anything.

917
01:09:48,020 --> 01:09:52,640
Well, we have the testimony of the acreage as she did saw us here. That's a lot of it.

918
01:09:52,660 --> 01:09:52,820
Okay.

919
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,360
And we don't know if you can call the state and say any information.

920
01:09:58,880 --> 01:09:59,300
I don't know.

921
01:09:59,420 --> 01:09:59,740
Yeah.

922
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:03,560
We'll be able to say about how to use the testimony in this room.

923
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,760
Not, you know, call up somebody and say,

924
01:10:07,820 --> 01:10:09,260
Can you give us more information?

925
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:10,400
They're not.

926
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:12,280
They have a hundred year map.

927
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,100
That what we always knew.

928
01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:16,780
However, that's a lot of.

929
01:10:17,180 --> 01:10:18,720
Should Google more research.

930
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:19,820
We can't.

931
01:10:19,820 --> 01:10:27,240
over the 28th and over the 100th year, so then we had came back and it does affect it because

932
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:32,800
all my companies had to change our insurance because the window of 500 has all the lower claims.

933
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:38,440
Now the flood is when they said they wouldn't, because it was north and they said, oh,

934
01:10:38,780 --> 01:10:43,600
so we said, what's going to be wearing shirt? So that all that changed into a formula of

935
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,800
a P-bound doing when they're waiting. But all the time, we're going to go in my onion here in the

936
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,860
on you because of a comfortable and a little shirt.

937
01:10:51,340 --> 01:11:00,120
Okay, with an Adrian and I would like to suggest that because this is an assessment

938
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:07,920
that's based on information of, it's not based on walking particular structures.

939
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:15,660
It's that that is part of the inspection that this committee needs to undertake.

940
01:11:16,540 --> 01:11:24,240
The committee needs to inspect the formulas, the maps, the easements, et cetera, et cetera.

941
01:11:24,740 --> 01:11:35,600
I would also suggest that in accumulating this information, you can sort of parcel out who's going to pursue what.

942
01:11:35,600 --> 01:12:00,360
and then you get together and talk about what you've learned and then, you know, that might be the day at which you invite Jocelyn in or you may have this information you can organize it and then you invite Jocelyn in and say,

943
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:16,400
I'm going to make a suggestion before we go on with those that we recessed this, that we don't set a date and a time yet, and someone in on this board contact their

944
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:22,380
a lot of the cities and towns and ask them, what is the legal way to proceed with this?

945
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:28,140
Because we've never done this under then. We've dealt with property with, you know,

946
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:34,220
cops and the property owners says this and we go out and we look at it. It's been really

947
01:12:34,220 --> 01:12:40,320
pretty cutting for I other than the solar event, the solar field. I don't know how that ever turned out.

948
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:45,880
But I think we need to get some advice on this.

949
01:12:46,240 --> 01:13:00,380
I would believe that if we asked for advice or asked for the formula and kept it

950
01:13:00,380 --> 01:13:11,420
is we're until the inspection thing and they, you it as part of the inspection as we do too

951
01:13:11,420 --> 01:13:18,980
that that would fulfill their need to know. Who's things?

952
01:13:19,060 --> 01:13:25,240
The very required rate. I'm just saying that, yeah, I don't think that it's under that you are

953
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:36,440
understanding that we're as if as the BCA receives information testimony that we're only permitted to use what we've got here.

954
01:13:37,020 --> 01:13:48,320
We can't call, we can't look at maps, we can't really do that to extend our input of our information.

955
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:54,440
Like, if somebody came to us, for instance, and they said their tax rate was too high,

956
01:13:54,980 --> 01:14:00,340
we couldn't look at comps in the area. Outside of this, I can only look at what the

957
01:14:00,340 --> 01:14:08,660
listers provide and what the appellant provides us. And then we go out and give the inspection.

958
01:14:10,180 --> 01:14:13,200
But on this point, it has, does I have a lot of Spain with it?

959
01:14:13,900 --> 01:14:17,200
Isn't the inspection itself, is it an information gathering?

960
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,720
Yes, you're not just going and standing somewhere and

961
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,360
constituting about where evidence and error, and then

962
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:28,060
so you're actually looking for some structure, or some place, and

963
01:14:28,060 --> 01:14:32,960
a sad thing about the logic, you know, so the fact in this case,

964
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,680
if there is no physical structure to look at,

965
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:41,480
the thing that you have to look at is a chart or a...

966
01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:46,880
Well, I strongly disagree. I'll go one out, take down those, okay?

967
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:54,350
They have to take their way that one zone and take them to tell you, they will get a well over million dollars more.

968
01:14:54,900 --> 01:14:56,560
They will profit them to the other one.

969
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,240
I understand that. I'm not.

970
01:14:59,260 --> 01:14:59,880
So, you're right.

971
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,880
Yeah, that's fine, but there's structure, there is, there's whatever is in that matter, whatever they're about.

972
01:15:08,820 --> 01:15:14,880
Well, like I said, I would really like to ask, evermind me, the citizen's time to see before me proceed.

973
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:23,100
So, I, yes, means my key to interrupt, but we have to be around here. Okay, so I'm going to recess this.

974
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:30,360
And would ask somebody to have on for research.

975
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:32,620
No, not not research.

976
01:15:32,820 --> 01:15:33,720
Contact the Vermont.

977
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:34,800
That's in cancer.

978
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:35,520
Okay.

979
01:15:36,540 --> 01:15:37,700
Well, it's advice.

980
01:15:38,020 --> 01:15:39,120
It's new to leave us.

981
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:40,460
All right.

982
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:41,960
So, Jeanette, we'll do that.

983
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:43,740
How do we, how do we,

984
01:15:43,740 --> 01:15:46,760
I'm a little bit worried about 30 to 30 days,

985
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,540
or, you know,

986
01:15:48,540 --> 01:15:49,160
put off.

987
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,100
How do we get the job done?

988
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:52,720
Well,

989
01:15:52,720 --> 01:16:02,220
we got a part of the advice and then we I get we will reconvene somehow I guess maybe we could do that by zoom

990
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:12,500
I don't know this is new stuff for me and I think everybody on this and just on the

991
01:16:12,500 --> 01:16:24,880
a civil authority needs to read the parameters for taps, assesses, and I want anybody to have

992
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,540
a comment about that.

993
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:30,120
Okay.

994
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:39,920
So I say within the next. So I say within, well, Janet, when do you

995
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,620
I think you can run this information of how many of them on me,

996
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,180
but it doesn't matter how trying, pardon me.

997
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,840
I'll transfer to my own side, right?

998
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:48,140
Okay.

999
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:49,660
Oh, so.

1000
01:16:49,700 --> 01:16:50,140
Sorry.

1001
01:16:50,740 --> 01:16:54,180
It hasn't been said she's not just anybody here at all.

1002
01:16:54,260 --> 01:16:58,800
You know, it's been married to one of the contract will look the other day.

1003
01:16:58,820 --> 01:17:00,520
She's on board a civil authority.

1004
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,840
She's one of you in the minutes that she could not wear is the file.

1005
01:17:03,940 --> 01:17:04,320
Yeah.

1006
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,900
Millie is taking minutes right now.

1007
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,240
So we're saying, so that has volunteered.

1008
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:15,620
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know what you want me to do. Just recess to net will.

1009
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,760
Janette is appointed to and you get this down to to pursue with Vermont Legal

1010
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:26,030
Citizens and Towns and we will recess this meeting in two weeks.

1011
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:28,260
Oh, I was very well.

1012
01:17:29,260 --> 01:17:34,570
For one week one week one week. How does that work?

1013
01:17:34,570 --> 01:17:37,430
When we talk right up, guys, we're going to.

1014
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:37,950
OK.

1015
01:17:39,850 --> 01:17:49,090
So I am following this heading to be recessed until one week from today,

1016
01:17:49,310 --> 01:17:50,910
which is anybody ever calendar?

1017
01:17:51,270 --> 01:17:53,050
This part of it's being recessed.

1018
01:17:53,050 --> 01:17:53,830
You still haven't.

1019
01:17:54,210 --> 01:17:54,450
Right, OK.

1020
01:17:54,590 --> 01:17:56,090
The BCI has parties, right?

1021
01:17:56,090 --> 01:17:56,570
Yes, that's right.

1022
01:17:56,730 --> 01:17:57,010
We're closing.

1023
01:17:57,370 --> 01:17:59,830
We're recessing this, and now we're going to open

1024
01:18:00,470 --> 01:18:02,490
the board of a basement.

1025
01:18:02,570 --> 01:18:03,210
Yes, really.

1026
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:12,000
And we were going to touch about how to do that.

1027
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:19,280
We're going to set up the meeting and have it available by some of

1028
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,340
Okay, yes, yes, thank you.

1029
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:26,480
Yeah, no, no.

1030
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:31,660
Okay, so now they're going to do that.

1031
01:18:31,660 --> 01:18:32,360
I think.

1032
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:45,680
You know, yes, I mentioned.

1033
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:08,160
I don't have an accent. I don't have an accent. I don't have an accent.

1034
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:13,980
So I believe we also have to be working as that we've had many, many.

1035
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,360
I didn't realize how we can lead.

1036
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:18,220
So that's the idea.

1037
01:19:19,180 --> 01:19:30,740
Where all the abandoning community is a majority of MBCA, the minimum of 12 people, or so what do we have?

1038
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:31,700
Who's on the BCA?

1039
01:19:31,820 --> 01:19:34,420
I think everyone here is on the BCA.

1040
01:19:34,420 --> 01:19:34,920
Okay, so

1041
01:19:37,770 --> 01:19:39,290
yeah, we're here.

1042
01:19:39,290 --> 01:19:42,410
Good. Are you, you're not in the case of there.

1043
01:19:43,290 --> 01:19:44,330
There, there.

1044
01:19:44,930 --> 01:19:46,570
The, I don't know, there.

1045
01:19:46,570 --> 01:19:47,790
I'm not saying one guesses.

1046
01:19:48,270 --> 01:19:50,490
7, you, you, you have been 12.

1047
01:19:50,930 --> 01:19:52,770
13. We're good. Okay.

1048
01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:55,030
All right.

1049
01:19:55,970 --> 01:19:56,990
So let me go,

1050
01:19:57,450 --> 01:19:57,470
She,

1051
01:19:58,270 --> 01:19:58,830
She,

1052
01:20:15,700 --> 01:20:16,000
Okay,

1053
01:20:16,420 --> 01:20:17,800
I hear by,

1054
01:20:17,940 --> 01:20:18,740
being a,

1055
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:19,380
the,

1056
01:20:19,380 --> 01:20:19,500
the,

1057
01:20:19,660 --> 01:20:25,060
building of tax evading this hearing and, um,

1058
01:20:28,700 --> 01:20:29,720
just as a human.

1059
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:33,600
So I'm opening the hearing

1060
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:42,630
and the applicant is Rebecca Saunders and

1061
01:20:44,970 --> 01:20:53,430
the property location is, um, 113 con road in Westminster

1062
01:20:53,430 --> 01:21:09,130
with a footnote beyond the rest. And the parcel ID is 0.1, 0.1, 0.3, 0.0, 0. And

1063
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:19,600
so Rebecca Saunders is here and I'm not

1064
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:29,560
So I would like, and if the African and any witnesses are you will witness this to this case.

1065
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,560
Yes, you are.

1066
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:35,660
Okay, so I'd like the applicant and witness to take the following oath.

1067
01:21:36,540 --> 01:21:47,540
Under the pains and penalties of virtually, do you solemnly swear that the evidence you give and cause under consideration shall be the hope for nothing but the truth?

1068
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:58,580
And does anybody on the Board of Civil Authority have any conflict of interest in this case?

1069
01:21:58,580 --> 01:21:59,480
Well, great.

1070
01:22:00,940 --> 01:22:06,120
So Rebecca, have you received a copy of the Board's rules and procedures?

1071
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,880
And do you have any questions about how to proceed with the meeting?

1072
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:11,380
Okay,

1073
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,980
I'll set you understand how we're going to help our candidates.

1074
01:22:22,380 --> 01:22:29,980
And can you identify which of the statutory categories you are?

1075
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:39,020
That would be, that's on the first page of your application.

1076
01:22:41,260 --> 01:22:43,480
Oh, I don't have the application, was it open?

1077
01:22:43,860 --> 01:22:45,220
Oh, thank you.

1078
01:22:46,540 --> 01:22:53,660
So, yes, the taxes and charges were first and so unable to pay a charge and interest to the employees.

1079
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,220
Okay, I'll understand that.

1080
01:22:58,540 --> 01:22:59,680
Did everybody hear that?

1081
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:00,340
I don't have it.

1082
01:23:02,180 --> 01:23:02,800
All right.

1083
01:23:04,820 --> 01:23:14,080
So, Rebecca, we would like you to present your evidence and anything without

1084
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:15,820
left to author that year, please.

1085
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,040
Oh, instead of a vote of your decision.

1086
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:23,480
If you have anything other to author, well,

1087
01:23:27,740 --> 01:23:34,580
One thing that did occurred to me today was that if I had a payment plan without penalties

1088
01:23:34,580 --> 01:23:36,860
and interests would help.

1089
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:50,540
But what I was saying, and I was just saying, the gist of it all is that because of a

1090
01:23:50,540 --> 01:23:56,320
lot of contract of fraud, scams, I got into big financial trouble seven years ago, and

1091
01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:02,820
quite managed to get out of it. Maybe the answer to the side of it. And then my one of my

1092
01:24:02,820 --> 01:24:11,780
taxes double, I was a bit kind of harder because I had paid my last taxes. And I think the next

1093
01:24:11,780 --> 01:24:19,520
year I'll be able to pay if things don't, you know, things don't stay steady. But this year is really

1094
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:26,140
stuff because I don't have a home stator credit for this year.

1095
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:33,060
I had $200, not so credit because our home-style stator thing got listed wrongly many years

1096
01:24:33,060 --> 01:24:33,380
ago.

1097
01:24:33,620 --> 01:24:40,040
It got subsequently fixed when I was never getting proper home stator credit for my house,

1098
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:49,140
which has a valuation of $247,000, which I've managed to...

1099
01:24:49,140 --> 01:24:57,920
make up for the contractor for I'm by getting longs and all that and I think that my

1100
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:02,820
homestay credit wouldn't have been pretty nice. This year is pretty good for next year but it's

1101
01:25:02,820 --> 01:25:08,840
not for this year. You know how the year is behind the year. So this year is the tough one.

1102
01:25:09,140 --> 01:25:15,950
I'm caught up with everything except this year and I'm going to have to take out a long

1103
01:25:16,710 --> 01:25:23,170
because I get a nice little lower interest than I would be paid on a payment plan.

1104
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:28,970
And so that's what I'm asking for a redemption for this year.

1105
01:25:29,970 --> 01:25:33,870
And then, because if I had the proper homestead credit, I would probably be okay.

1106
01:25:34,670 --> 01:25:39,450
But it ever did because of the various mistakes that I think I explained.

1107
01:25:39,710 --> 01:25:43,090
I kind of explained them mistakes, even if I'm very lost to hear them.

1108
01:25:43,670 --> 01:25:51,250
I think you should go ahead and do that because I've got a great number of the people who were not here on your previous year.

1109
01:25:52,290 --> 01:25:56,110
Yeah, so probably started with a contractor fraud. Can everybody hear?

1110
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:57,130
Yeah, I think we're back then.

1111
01:25:57,590 --> 01:26:02,250
My character fraud scams really disasters and for which there's no help.

1112
01:26:02,510 --> 01:26:07,090
There's really never anybody asking for help everybody from the government on that.

1113
01:26:08,110 --> 01:26:14,370
And there's really nothing you can do about that, because even if you take a contractor to

1114
01:26:14,370 --> 01:26:16,470
report, they don't have to pay anything and they all know that.

1115
01:26:16,610 --> 01:26:20,390
We all know that, you know, it's just in the states and those things too.

1116
01:26:20,650 --> 01:26:22,610
So that's what got me into big trouble.

1117
01:26:24,130 --> 01:26:29,470
And meanwhile, what happened was I had a trailer that was on my property that I had a trailer

1118
01:26:29,470 --> 01:26:32,870
and then I sort of outbuilding the Rajee kind of thing.

1119
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:40,810
The trailer got removed and we had to proper things for Charlie Lowell got the permit and he

1120
01:26:40,810 --> 01:26:46,270
helped me with all of that but it wasn't listed properly and so it was listed I was paying

1121
01:26:46,270 --> 01:26:56,630
taxes for trailer for many years but then when the trailer was removed in 2000 to 20 that was really

1122
01:26:56,630 --> 01:27:01,230
paying taxes on the building was not there as mine also has been constructed because I had

1123
01:27:01,230 --> 01:27:12,210
to finally, we finally got some kind of decent contractors that took a long time and the house was finally finished in 2004 last year.

1124
01:27:15,290 --> 01:27:20,190
So, okay, so then the home sort of credit was not accurate and the house list thing was not accurate.

1125
01:27:20,190 --> 01:27:22,270
But we got that fixed on two problems.

1126
01:27:22,730 --> 01:27:26,270
The list thing was at 50% of the Homestead Valley,

1127
01:27:26,330 --> 01:27:27,870
it was at 100%.

1128
01:27:27,870 --> 01:27:31,710
Because of the mistake, I don't know, as I might have made it,

1129
01:27:31,710 --> 01:27:34,590
somehow I called a building a studio,

1130
01:27:34,970 --> 01:27:38,510
and it seemed like it was a art studio, which it was.

1131
01:27:38,650 --> 01:27:41,150
And they just, one of those, some things you do,

1132
01:27:41,270 --> 01:27:43,990
you name something, and then it bites you later.

1133
01:27:44,810 --> 01:27:48,410
So once I got the 100% listing, things got better,

1134
01:27:48,410 --> 01:27:58,850
But since the home value is very low, even though my home by that point was getting a little bit more valuable, I wasn't getting the right credit.

1135
01:28:00,070 --> 01:28:01,090
Does that make sense?

1136
01:28:01,650 --> 01:28:02,610
It's so complicated.

1137
01:28:04,750 --> 01:28:05,750
I didn't know.

1138
01:28:06,590 --> 01:28:09,110
So, and then, of course, everybody got the tax increase.

1139
01:28:09,290 --> 01:28:10,210
I got a double.

1140
01:28:10,250 --> 01:28:13,490
I got from 3,000 something to 6,000.

1141
01:28:13,490 --> 01:28:21,530
and I had shells that arranged to pay the $3,000 kind of got it paid and then I get here was $6,000 and I just didn't have it.

1142
01:28:22,270 --> 01:28:26,590
I have an official information on the security, the property of this place.

1143
01:28:27,570 --> 01:28:31,130
Yeah, the proper checks was double. I'll tell you what.

1144
01:28:33,150 --> 01:28:34,790
Yeah, let's speak down there.

1145
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:46,190
And the last two years, the property taxes double from 3,000 to 6,000 to 5,000 to 5,000.

1146
01:28:46,830 --> 01:28:52,150
So you're like that. On top of this, it was a result of the educational increase as well, percentage.

1147
01:28:53,070 --> 01:29:02,050
But we've got a good double fit of this year. There's no doubt from the state, because we had only 200 dollars of credit.

1148
01:29:02,910 --> 01:29:06,110
And you have now $6,000 for credit.

1149
01:29:07,190 --> 01:29:10,070
So the next year, the home estate credit is pretty good.

1150
01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:11,130
And that's manageable.

1151
01:29:12,450 --> 01:29:13,550
But for this year, it's not.

1152
01:29:13,670 --> 01:29:16,450
If the years in the past, it hasn't really been more than $1,000.

1153
01:29:16,630 --> 01:29:18,710
I think it was $130 on years, $200.

1154
01:29:19,070 --> 01:29:21,870
So the dollar was a mistake, and it all got fit.

1155
01:29:22,730 --> 01:29:28,750
I don't understand why the education state tax payment was so long.

1156
01:29:30,530 --> 01:29:33,590
That's that double mistake, that's why it's so confusing.

1157
01:29:34,250 --> 01:29:43,270
Well, yeah, but that it's something that I'm going to stake you, maybe, because that's calculated from your income to apps.

1158
01:29:43,330 --> 01:29:44,850
It was a mistake. It was a mistake.

1159
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:47,850
It was listed incorrectly.

1160
01:29:48,510 --> 01:29:50,230
That is based on your income,

1161
01:29:52,850 --> 01:29:59,850
but look at education tax credit is calculated by the state.

1162
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:08,660
The court may stand here in common and have nothing to do with your solicitors.

1163
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:16,960
So, was in common with property value? Let's see the property value is very, very low, because the solicitor was a trailer.

1164
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,460
And then when the property went up, this got fit.

1165
01:30:21,460 --> 01:30:38,280
It has too much tests, and I would give you a wrinkled box, now we'll give you, so that what they've told me is this a combination of the two that is your income and the value of your property, and they told me that the more valuable your property is, the bigger your credit is.

1166
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:42,500
You know, the person that excuse me, Rachel has something to do with this.

1167
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:42,760
Yes, Rachel.

1168
01:30:43,900 --> 01:30:46,360
The number of property went up.

1169
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,500
It was the new building.

1170
01:30:50,180 --> 01:30:50,360
Right.

1171
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,040
So, yes, your education.

1172
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:53,980
I said, right.

1173
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:55,100
It would have been similar.

1174
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:55,840
Yeah, sure.

1175
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:56,400
Yes.

1176
01:30:56,500 --> 01:30:58,000
I want to talk about it.

1177
01:30:58,040 --> 01:30:59,800
But your value in higher.

1178
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:01,580
So, the taxes, I don't know.

1179
01:31:01,780 --> 01:31:02,320
What do we higher?

1180
01:31:02,820 --> 01:31:03,320
So, okay.

1181
01:31:03,700 --> 01:31:04,460
The amount of that.

1182
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:05,700
I try to understand.

1183
01:31:05,700 --> 01:31:10,940
to acknowledge, and I said, there's a lot of children in the United States in the United States.

1184
01:31:10,940 --> 01:31:14,820
Really what happens is in the picture that we knew that of the trailer.

1185
01:31:15,420 --> 01:31:21,060
And that, we already know, Mr. Saucer's office, the fact that we have to see the trailer,

1186
01:31:21,460 --> 01:31:26,100
that they've been tolerated, but I'm assessing the value of that knowledge in the United States.

1187
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:28,220
That's why the United States is for none.

1188
01:31:28,420 --> 01:31:32,220
Well, but the thing is, we did, I didn't get any homestead credit for that,

1189
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:33,880
but look at the difference between that.

1190
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:38,020
I just want my point, I don't understand why you don't know.

1191
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:43,200
Nobody seems to know because look at it from it's here. That's pretty nice.

1192
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,820
Well, that's certainly more like it.

1193
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:50,940
It's 2,200 and something but it's applied for next year.

1194
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,020
So that's my great product.

1195
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:54,800
But that's a document that we've found.

1196
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:56,160
Yeah.

1197
01:31:57,480 --> 01:31:57,880
It doesn't.

1198
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,840
I keep sending them back to the channel.

1199
01:32:01,060 --> 01:32:01,880
I don't know what to do.

1200
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:06,480
We call the tax people, when everyone, like, say,

1201
01:32:06,660 --> 01:32:08,980
boy, it's down, and then we go to town,

1202
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,400
it says, oh, it's safe, you know, you cannot.

1203
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:12,380
Can we?

1204
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,540
I just, the bill, six thousand something for this year.

1205
01:32:16,700 --> 01:32:18,420
I mean, it's a huge amount of money.

1206
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,000
It's totally double.

1207
01:32:20,580 --> 01:32:22,500
You're going to have any help on this day.

1208
01:32:22,820 --> 01:32:26,300
That's why we appeal to consider, to reduce the power,

1209
01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:28,100
because we don't have money to pay.

1210
01:32:28,460 --> 01:32:30,660
We deal with, you know, the fraud,

1211
01:32:30,660 --> 01:32:34,680
and knowing how we conducted the business to everyone,

1212
01:32:35,140 --> 01:32:39,840
to start to the town, to the governor, to the police, to everyone,

1213
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,080
zero response, zero.

1214
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:47,580
Because my question is, why is it this, with the same property,

1215
01:32:47,780 --> 01:32:52,740
the same evaluation, this coming year, I get 2,000 to 100 off the last year,

1216
01:32:52,860 --> 01:32:56,780
I got 233 off. That's that's my question.

1217
01:32:56,780 --> 01:33:05,020
that's how we're doing. And as I say, I understand it's based on when you file your

1218
01:33:05,020 --> 01:33:12,000
income tax and I'm declaring your home state, you include your property during

1219
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,780
I'm going to ask you how then send the figure to the channel.

1220
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,700
My answer was, I'm going to add to all the deficits.

1221
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:20,400
I agree with you.

1222
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:21,920
I agree with you.

1223
01:33:22,500 --> 01:33:25,720
I'm a Pacifica.

1224
01:33:26,140 --> 01:33:29,100
Emily, Emily, I'm sorry.

1225
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:30,900
I've heard of it.

1226
01:33:31,260 --> 01:33:34,000
I think of it as a Pacifica.

1227
01:33:34,020 --> 01:33:35,860
It has done for a couple of years.

1228
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,080
I had mine done by a Pacifica.

1229
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:49,300
And they were not going to file a home set declaration.

1230
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:51,480
Why so?

1231
01:33:51,480 --> 01:33:52,740
Because other income.

1232
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:54,580
No, no.

1233
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,340
And I said, you have to file.

1234
01:33:57,780 --> 01:33:58,580
Send declaration.

1235
01:33:59,780 --> 01:34:00,680
They didn't understand.

1236
01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:06,440
Because the more you're having to promote the more your house is worth a bigger.

1237
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:08,000
You get a home set.

1238
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:12,320
As we know, they told me it's going to be day-time, you're able to see it, don't you?

1239
01:34:12,420 --> 01:34:16,700
It's not really, it's all because it was based on the amount of time you've been going to notice.

1240
01:34:17,300 --> 01:34:19,300
Because I kept telling you your face, didn't you?

1241
01:34:20,420 --> 01:34:23,700
Uh, unfortunately, it's not, you know, it's not.

1242
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,300
You know, self-co...

1243
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:27,840
Yeah, what?

1244
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:31,980
If you've had the credits for this past year, that from the state,

1245
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,720
you know, the second one we've got in front of the only five percent.

1246
01:34:37,580 --> 01:34:42,820
from 3,000 to 6,000, 7,000, you know, we went there and said, you know, because we got

1247
01:34:43,480 --> 01:34:47,980
health crisis, we received a bill, we were as strong as it was.

1248
01:34:49,180 --> 01:34:57,580
As I drove just, yes, you can, can't you, we filed taxes for previous year, if you feel like there was some

1249
01:34:57,580 --> 01:35:01,180
And so, what, what, what did you realize then, okay?

1250
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,740
Yes, so, oh, look, you know what I'm saying in the third time.

1251
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:09,180
And like, it is, I sent her all the last, um, text bills, all the,

1252
01:35:09,180 --> 01:35:11,160
everything from 9, from 2021.

1253
01:35:11,540 --> 01:35:17,940
This is about, I guess, of 2021, 22 year, maybe it was the year that the,

1254
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,380
the property was removed, the change, all that.

1255
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:22,980
Um, and she's looking at it, but I haven't heard anything.

1256
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,160
But, because at what, when I call the state,

1257
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:33,700
the value of the house they said really was a factor. My low income is a factor too. I mean,

1258
01:35:33,700 --> 01:35:39,300
I can't prove my house incredibly and get more money because I have buy income as fit. So it

1259
01:35:39,300 --> 01:35:45,080
has to do with income and the other one too. And the more the house is worth supposedly,

1260
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:52,240
the more you get back. No, I'm sorry. So the state told me. Well, I'm sorry. They told you that

1261
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:53,520
But it's not accurate.

1262
01:35:54,660 --> 01:35:55,660
Yeah, what to do?

1263
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:56,860
Don't know what to do.

1264
01:35:57,220 --> 01:36:00,440
It is, it sounds like it would be blocked.

1265
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:02,640
It's to be filed in your state of taxes,

1266
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:07,140
with a direct homestead declaration for the fire of year.

1267
01:36:09,020 --> 01:36:12,820
Both of this, we have said that we could talk to you with that.

1268
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:17,780
That might help you and logically,

1269
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,380
we'd give you the same reddit for this year,

1270
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,280
hopefully that process would work.

1271
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,780
You think I should find it's like that OTC or whatever that is.

1272
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,980
We can also use it to live and have better results back.

1273
01:36:34,500 --> 01:36:40,060
Because they gave the credit from the last year for the past year.

1274
01:36:40,300 --> 01:36:46,920
The first year was based on the low like on the trailer on the lower value property.

1275
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:51,540
So, this year, you know, this was based on the previous.

1276
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:56,160
So, that's the instruction in between two, you know.

1277
01:36:56,740 --> 01:36:58,440
It doesn't, it doesn't give up.

1278
01:36:58,860 --> 01:37:00,440
It doesn't give up. It doesn't help. It doesn't help.

1279
01:37:00,620 --> 01:37:03,020
Well, that this is because two years we used to go.

1280
01:37:03,140 --> 01:37:06,600
But the year or four, you know, I want to use the turbo tax.

1281
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:07,120
I want to use the turbo tax.

1282
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,000
I want to use the OTC, whatever the thing is.

1283
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,580
You feel the thing that, that, that, that, that,

1284
01:37:11,580 --> 01:37:18,680
for indexes if you're retired. And we always get in the hundreds, 233

1285
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,580
of the highest credit we ever got.

1286
01:37:22,740 --> 01:37:28,940
You're allowing for a net and you have about 2040 something thousand

1287
01:37:28,940 --> 01:37:29,980
Now we're stuck with it.

1288
01:37:30,900 --> 01:37:43,660
That's awkward. Well, thank you. Thank you. Could you have symptoms? Yes, any of you, you said that if you had an evadement of the penalties, that would make a difference.

1289
01:37:44,420 --> 01:37:54,860
So, do you have that figure? Oh, no. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I can get it. I have it from the past year or two. I've been on a plane of flying with a lot of kind of distance.

1290
01:37:54,860 --> 01:38:01,960
interest. It was maybe $30 a month, but I don't see, and then interest was another $1,000

1291
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:07,180
assistant. Our loan is cheaper, but they're not. Getting a loan, the bank's loan is cheaper,

1292
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,520
but they're paying the fees. That's what you think.

1293
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,780
That's what you think. That's what you think. That's what you think. That's what you think.

1294
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:17,020
This is the end. What we just got from, yes, this.

1295
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:20,480
That's what you think.

1296
01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:21,500
It just makes sense.

1297
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:25,600
Your application does request a 50% of the payment in your job.

1298
01:38:25,900 --> 01:38:26,160
That's huge.

1299
01:38:26,460 --> 01:38:27,160
That's what that is.

1300
01:38:27,480 --> 01:38:28,120
That's what I think.

1301
01:38:28,260 --> 01:38:29,500
That's what I think.

1302
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:34,220
Then I can get through this year, but I have some next year, if it would be okay.

1303
01:38:34,440 --> 01:38:35,740
It won't be great, but it would be okay.

1304
01:38:37,860 --> 01:38:39,580
My income goes up with various.

1305
01:38:40,980 --> 01:38:44,620
It's a social security and a pension from my job.

1306
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,120
So it's fixed.

1307
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,240
It's not giving them any information.

1308
01:39:00,420 --> 01:39:00,920
It's fine.

1309
01:39:12,220 --> 01:39:15,920
Does everybody look at the property tax?

1310
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:16,900
It's quite looking.

1311
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,500
Somebody was so glad you were to see.

1312
01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:25,610
I sent the family at so close all my last, like,

1313
01:39:25,610 --> 01:39:28,630
test four years of tax things.

1314
01:39:28,630 --> 01:39:31,030
So she can try to figure it out.

1315
01:39:31,150 --> 01:39:34,290
And her and what is what happened.

1316
01:39:34,810 --> 01:39:36,370
I just assumed it was because

1317
01:39:38,030 --> 01:39:40,510
They almost didn't crash was not listed

1318
01:39:41,010 --> 01:39:44,570
Properly for it was this is 50% and then I got that change 100%

1319
01:39:45,190 --> 01:39:47,050
There was this did as a

1320
01:39:47,690 --> 01:39:54,090
The trailer or no building. There was no building for a while. Yeah, well, I was we don't really need to go back to the history of this one

1321
01:39:54,090 --> 01:39:57,790
No, they said I did deal with that. I made the current at Bayshy

1322
01:40:00,970 --> 01:40:01,590
So I have the information.

1323
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:03,830
Right, actually.

1324
01:40:06,110 --> 01:40:07,930
Correctly, in all the institutions.

1325
01:40:08,310 --> 01:40:10,790
The aggregates are one of those, a little bit.

1326
01:40:11,710 --> 01:40:12,870
That I'm going to say the same,

1327
01:40:12,970 --> 01:40:15,070
the aggregates are the same.

1328
01:40:15,350 --> 01:40:17,670
I'm going to tell you that.

1329
01:40:17,950 --> 01:40:20,250
Well, my colleague, this is more or less the same.

1330
01:40:22,030 --> 01:40:23,450
That's what we're talking about.

1331
01:40:23,850 --> 01:40:23,950
Yeah.

1332
01:40:24,690 --> 01:40:25,710
That's how the standards were.

1333
01:40:25,710 --> 01:40:28,190
So, not be fired, but that's correct.

1334
01:40:28,570 --> 01:40:35,550
It's because the property of value increased and within the state give you from the last year,

1335
01:40:35,570 --> 01:40:39,990
maybe you're the credit, you're going to give it this year credit for your valuable.

1336
01:40:40,410 --> 01:40:48,970
So in June, it was given, it's very confusing because they give you credit based on the last year

1337
01:40:48,970 --> 01:40:50,990
of your all property value.

1338
01:40:51,790 --> 01:40:56,870
It's confusing, but you know, that's, so we start this year with this huge bill.

1339
01:40:56,870 --> 01:41:03,430
And you did not have proper tax credit from the state.

1340
01:41:04,330 --> 01:41:10,530
For the next year, we have a new bill, they give us, because now it's a new value of the house.

1341
01:41:10,730 --> 01:41:12,670
So they give you the credit.

1342
01:41:12,910 --> 01:41:18,350
So the problem is generated by essentially the building house.

1343
01:41:19,010 --> 01:41:19,030
Yes.

1344
01:41:19,390 --> 01:41:21,250
And that increases the tax value.

1345
01:41:24,850 --> 01:41:31,290
And what the money you've got back from the state was based on what you paid when the tax

1346
01:41:31,290 --> 01:41:32,410
were low when you didn't have.

1347
01:41:32,890 --> 01:41:33,150
Yes, exactly.

1348
01:41:33,190 --> 01:41:37,970
So you were only getting a credit for the taxable value when you had the trader.

1349
01:41:38,910 --> 01:41:40,790
And now the house is there.

1350
01:41:41,110 --> 01:41:42,950
And your taxes are going up.

1351
01:41:44,430 --> 01:41:49,210
And every item of that is reasonable except for the staggering.

1352
01:41:49,210 --> 01:42:01,430
Yes, yes, that the increase of taxes comes in a year before the money that's supposed to help you pay.

1353
01:42:01,610 --> 01:42:11,290
Yes, yes, yes, show your even if all taxes are filed correctly and all the valuations in the property directly it's a staggering.

1354
01:42:13,610 --> 01:42:21,990
When you build a house, the first year, yes, you're stuck, yes, that's what I'm doing here, what you're saying, yes, that's only one year.

1355
01:42:22,270 --> 01:42:25,930
And for now, yes, is when you're, that's what you don't have.

1356
01:42:27,170 --> 01:42:33,350
If we have those proper, if we have like a thousand, stay credit, they'll be fine.

1357
01:42:35,990 --> 01:42:38,050
Because it's like it's doubled.

1358
01:42:38,750 --> 01:42:40,870
And it's all they need to say to present.

1359
01:42:41,070 --> 01:42:42,270
You've had something to say, Rachel,

1360
01:42:42,430 --> 01:42:45,450
but it's just going to point out that this is going to end up in the path of the family,

1361
01:42:45,770 --> 01:42:46,570
and assess me out.

1362
01:42:46,710 --> 01:42:48,430
Very good news value goes up,

1363
01:42:48,530 --> 01:42:51,090
which is one set of every, like the town,

1364
01:42:51,510 --> 01:42:53,210
will receive a subset,

1365
01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:54,730
but this is going to happen,

1366
01:42:54,870 --> 01:42:57,290
who said, let's get out of the meeting,

1367
01:42:57,470 --> 01:42:59,450
based on my previous leaders,

1368
01:43:00,150 --> 01:43:00,690
that helped you.

1369
01:43:00,690 --> 01:43:11,850
So the first year, one has to give a shot,

1370
01:43:12,030 --> 01:43:15,690
but the next year, the first year, the second year,

1371
01:43:19,210 --> 01:43:21,690
so I'm looking at it, so.

1372
01:43:22,030 --> 01:43:22,770
Who year to go?

1373
01:43:23,550 --> 01:43:24,490
Not this year?

1374
01:43:24,670 --> 01:43:26,770
No, but it's a third year.

1375
01:43:26,770 --> 01:43:30,670
for and return your mind and join for 24.

1376
01:43:30,770 --> 01:43:32,390
I guess exactly so right here.

1377
01:43:32,570 --> 01:43:33,250
I'm looking at that genius.

1378
01:43:34,930 --> 01:43:38,490
And it was 150, were the same, almost there to the next year,

1379
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:40,130
right up and now last for third.

1380
01:43:41,250 --> 01:43:45,470
And nothing change out in these three years, except they got all of it.

1381
01:43:45,470 --> 01:43:47,250
Did you see where the son was?

1382
01:43:48,190 --> 01:43:48,450
Yeah.

1383
01:43:48,810 --> 01:43:50,810
I'm just saying there.

1384
01:43:50,990 --> 01:43:53,510
I'm saying to this, this is very, very July.

1385
01:43:53,810 --> 01:43:55,990
It's turned around so it's basically important.

1386
01:43:55,990 --> 01:43:57,970
And that was the reason.

1387
01:43:57,970 --> 01:43:58,830
It was the reason.

1388
01:43:58,890 --> 01:43:59,850
Oh, this is a man.

1389
01:44:00,210 --> 01:44:00,590
I don't know.

1390
01:44:01,590 --> 01:44:02,430
Yeah, I don't know.

1391
01:44:02,810 --> 01:44:03,330
I was here.

1392
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:04,030
Oh, I was here.

1393
01:44:04,030 --> 01:44:05,870
From 100 and something to 23.

1394
01:44:07,310 --> 01:44:09,290
I want to say the thing there are things.

1395
01:44:09,550 --> 01:44:09,630
Sorry.

1396
01:44:10,050 --> 01:44:11,070
You're Mr. Friy.

1397
01:44:11,250 --> 01:44:11,390
Yeah.

1398
01:44:11,870 --> 01:44:14,650
But the year before was pretty, no, too.

1399
01:44:14,770 --> 01:44:15,290
I mean, he's right.

1400
01:44:15,590 --> 01:44:18,590
So the three years has been that low.

1401
01:44:21,050 --> 01:44:21,730
It was even lower.

1402
01:44:22,490 --> 01:44:22,870
Yeah.

1403
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:32,950
I wouldn't like to know if anybody on the BCA has any more questions for Rebecca about her

1404
01:44:32,950 --> 01:44:36,090
situation, or request, et cetera.

1405
01:44:39,460 --> 01:44:40,180
You know, okay.

1406
01:44:42,580 --> 01:44:43,800
I do have a question.

1407
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,000
Don't have a problem with the value.

1408
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:49,480
There's this.

1409
01:44:49,480 --> 01:44:50,760
Dr. Talon, we set the guidance.

1410
01:44:51,380 --> 01:44:51,420
Yeah.

1411
01:44:51,420 --> 01:44:55,900
It's time to put a three bit and when they went from one bit to five, it's going to go back.

1412
01:44:55,940 --> 01:44:57,040
Oh no, because it's not.

1413
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:57,980
That's what you have no more.

1414
01:44:57,980 --> 01:44:58,900
No, that's not important.

1415
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:10,180
I would like to even improve the law if I could. But I forgot to say, oh, I can also show you all tax or

1416
01:45:10,180 --> 01:45:15,940
return so that you see there's no change much change in the income. Well, we don't really, that's

1417
01:45:15,940 --> 01:45:20,320
not really part of our own. I thought you'd be able to do that. There is no big, I haven't

1418
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:27,180
and I said, well, where a lot of money that I did is a report, is that it was a, I don't, I don't.

1419
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:34,860
Okay, so I suggest that we close the hearing unless you have any more information to offer

1420
01:45:34,860 --> 01:45:44,760
or any other questions from the board. And we will enter a deliberative session now, and we will

1421
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:51,180
issue, issued me a written decision within 30 days.

1422
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:53,360
Okay.

1423
01:45:55,620 --> 01:45:56,640
Thank you.

1424
01:45:58,960 --> 01:45:59,580
Thank you.

1425
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:01,360
Thank you.

1426
01:46:01,480 --> 01:46:01,800
Thank you.

1427
01:46:02,100 --> 01:46:03,260
Thank you for coming in.

1428
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:04,820
Thank you for waiting for.

1429
01:46:04,820 --> 01:46:05,480
Thank you.

1430
01:46:05,940 --> 01:46:07,100
Appreciate your efforts.

1431
01:46:08,020 --> 01:46:08,040
Thanks.

1432
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:18,080
Okay.

1433
01:46:18,380 --> 01:46:18,980
We've said.

1434
01:46:19,660 --> 01:46:21,020
What are you all saying?

1435
01:46:21,020 --> 01:46:29,540
And I would say that's a very unintended consequence of the Comstead Tax Credit, you know, based

1436
01:46:29,540 --> 01:46:33,680
on income that comes to people, that you have this year staggering.

1437
01:46:34,440 --> 01:46:38,080
So there, in case, hey, this is point out, affect a lot of people.

1438
01:46:38,580 --> 01:46:44,580
It'll affect everybody who builds a new house, who has the same income on the property

1439
01:46:44,580 --> 01:46:52,300
a year before and now I think you've got a home state benefit on an empty property and then

1440
01:46:52,300 --> 01:46:57,520
build a house on it. So it's a, and then, and then their attacks go down when they start getting

1441
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:04,400
the home state tax credit. But the way it's calculated now, it's said everybody hard for

1442
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:05,080
care it.

1443
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:14,780
What we might consider doing for them might be it, so somebody that a lot

1444
01:47:14,780 --> 01:47:16,780
of people might be in that same boat.

1445
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:34,380
So we've had in mind what we decide now will set

1446
01:47:34,380 --> 01:47:38,220
I mean, she didn't plan to set it up by killing young people.

1447
01:47:40,820 --> 01:47:50,100
She was suggesting a payment plan without interest and penalties.

1448
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:57,880
And I don't know how does that need to go before the select board to request that?

1449
01:47:58,480 --> 01:47:59,100
Yes.

1450
01:47:59,100 --> 01:48:04,320
Please, we had Halloween because she's working on right now to be as so much in that

1451
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:04,840
fashion.

1452
01:48:05,380 --> 01:48:09,820
But now a week person was before a long and spread it out.

1453
01:48:11,180 --> 01:48:15,560
She came back for the motion that it's the motion, so that it's absolutely lovely

1454
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:15,780
and fun.

1455
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:19,400
But it has to come up with the platform that she thought.

1456
01:48:21,620 --> 01:48:25,000
I think this board, we've got a joke.

1457
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:28,960
This board has the discretion to look at the, you know,

1458
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:34,140
all the tests. Yes, and what is the address? This board can say they shouldn't have

1459
01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:39,720
playing something with this test or anything. They have what we're just going to take off

1460
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:43,440
20 dollars or whatever. It's a discussion of what they have.

1461
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:48,280
If it were the mistake, it would work in the ground or if you didn't do the value that I didn't

1462
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:52,400
argument, that's why I wanted to say I don't have a problem with the list that you said,

1463
01:48:52,500 --> 01:48:57,740
it's too poor, so I don't have a problem with it in this. There's income really

1464
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,660
What's the kind of work that is.

1465
01:49:00,660 --> 01:49:02,280
She's the real-life hardship, though.

1466
01:49:02,580 --> 01:49:02,640
Right.

1467
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,280
The kettle is one of the categories that's

1468
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:07,360
the part of this is the kettle which is

1469
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:08,340
to stop the structure.

1470
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:09,340
Yeah, what is that?

1471
01:49:09,340 --> 01:49:10,660
So that's what he said.

1472
01:49:10,940 --> 01:49:12,900
That's what he said.

1473
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:14,140
That's what he said.

1474
01:49:14,220 --> 01:49:15,040
I mean, more people.

1475
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:16,480
Oh, man.

1476
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:17,640
I mean, people who are listening.

1477
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:22,660
They've made a increase in their properties.

1478
01:49:22,660 --> 01:49:29,060
in their property, which results in a higher tax rate, or with it.

1479
01:49:29,500 --> 01:49:32,280
And then, successfully, a year later,

1480
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,220
a higher reimbursement from the state, you guys didn't?

1481
01:49:35,260 --> 01:49:38,060
I'm not, there was, there was a result of the same tax bill.

1482
01:49:38,260 --> 01:49:39,960
So we know, I don't know, in some of the comments,

1483
01:49:40,420 --> 01:49:41,680
but that's the question about it.

1484
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:46,560
I didn't see it, which has to, but I do think

1485
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:50,300
it was, take more, and about the rest of it,

1486
01:49:50,300 --> 01:49:57,140
Because of the time when the place of wisdom that is coming, it's such a big thing, because we're so far behind the market.

1487
01:49:57,500 --> 01:50:01,100
So it's not that everyone's taxes are going to go up.

1488
01:50:01,460 --> 01:50:05,000
But for that first year, we were just hitting the most of that credit.

1489
01:50:05,260 --> 01:50:12,000
It's going to get much less based on their current, their new right, their away from.

1490
01:50:12,220 --> 01:50:16,260
Because it's going to be based on the previous year, so the first year.

1491
01:50:16,260 --> 01:50:18,380
I don't think I'm going to get over there.

1492
01:50:18,780 --> 01:50:21,260
It's probably not in relation to health.

1493
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:23,780
It's at my mom's step.

1494
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:25,220
Yeah, I'm right here in the practice.

1495
01:50:25,660 --> 01:50:28,000
And I'm based on the value of the value of the value of me.

1496
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:30,380
It's a percentage of the value.

1497
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,680
Because you have just put it in.

1498
01:50:34,060 --> 01:50:34,560
I don't know.

1499
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:34,760
I don't know.

1500
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:38,780
I don't know.

1501
01:50:38,900 --> 01:50:39,820
Because I don't know.

1502
01:50:39,820 --> 01:50:40,120
I don't know.

1503
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:41,040
I don't know.

1504
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:41,720
I don't know.

1505
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:41,980
I don't know.

1506
01:50:41,980 --> 01:50:44,960
I don't know.

1507
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:46,040
I don't know.

1508
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:53,060
and so performing with based on your think of hands and the other side here, all in a far

1509
01:50:53,060 --> 01:50:53,820
year.

1510
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:57,020
But I feel like you're so excited to see that so much.

1511
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:01,880
Somebody's responsibility for the orange, detached pairs of this down there.

1512
01:51:02,020 --> 01:51:03,580
They give me a value of the blue.

1513
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:06,100
They are going to get blindsided.

1514
01:51:06,180 --> 01:51:06,920
We melt in there.

1515
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:08,620
We have a hell of a pill.

1516
01:51:08,900 --> 01:51:12,480
They're going to be dumb to us because they're not going to be very bad.

1517
01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:15,120
wrong, really, don't know that because of everybody,

1518
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:16,840
one of the dad's, the one who's lost,

1519
01:51:17,300 --> 01:51:20,020
everybody are all happy to hold up.

1520
01:51:20,540 --> 01:51:22,640
It's still, it's still going to be

1521
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:24,520
still going to apply the next amount of pastures.

1522
01:51:24,940 --> 01:51:25,140
That's true.

1523
01:51:25,340 --> 01:51:25,540
That's true.

1524
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,720
You know, it's great overall, but we're down in the dentist's

1525
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:30,000
larger.

1526
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:34,100
But an individual person who's getting a credit,

1527
01:51:34,440 --> 01:51:37,120
is then again, a couple of six credit person,

1528
01:51:37,480 --> 01:51:40,540
the prettiest reviews about it, which is that if you're

1529
01:51:40,540 --> 01:51:41,640
much better for that.

1530
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:42,640
It's a detergent.

1531
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:43,300
How did it go?

1532
01:51:43,580 --> 01:51:44,060
It was all.

1533
01:51:44,060 --> 01:51:45,440
We have people that don't know it.

1534
01:51:45,620 --> 01:51:48,820
So everyone is going to get a change to value notice.

1535
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:54,500
Virtually every single person who owns property doesn't necessarily get a change of value.

1536
01:51:54,660 --> 01:51:55,480
That's a great solution.

1537
01:51:55,860 --> 01:51:57,900
But it tells you what your value is changing.

1538
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,140
It doesn't tell you what your taxes are going to be.

1539
01:52:00,420 --> 01:52:01,220
We don't know that.

1540
01:52:01,420 --> 01:52:02,660
It can tell us how much their greed is.

1541
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:04,000
It's going to know that.

1542
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:04,960
It's a nice tax.

1543
01:52:05,020 --> 01:52:05,200
It's a nice tax.

1544
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,920
I tell you, Grand, but one day, Grand was done.

1545
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:09,540
And that's what we're going to do right now.

1546
01:52:09,540 --> 01:52:14,240
It is how much of a great brand this goes because that brand is that you divide it into the buildings.

1547
01:52:16,380 --> 01:52:20,960
And right now we can say that you were at the all-time high on the Lincoln gas.

1548
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:23,520
And you got to be careful of what we're doing.

1549
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:25,140
We're working hard to sell it.

1550
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:26,300
We're out of gold now.

1551
01:52:26,440 --> 01:52:27,540
$900,000.

1552
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:28,160
Like that.

1553
01:52:28,340 --> 01:52:29,140
The Lincoln taxes.

1554
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:38,400
He's not fixed on per issue. It's not necessarily fixed on changes of evaluation, anything is

1555
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:47,180
based on COVID and a, or she's on their practice of my thing, one's practice. There's the key problem that

1556
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:55,260
So, I don't care if I can feel even in this factor of the castling person, and given that

1557
01:52:55,260 --> 01:53:01,340
she stated that if we evaded penalties and interests and set up a payment plan, that would

1558
01:53:01,340 --> 01:53:07,360
help her, how do we feel about following that little, but everybody's feeling comfortable

1559
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:08,340
with that.

1560
01:53:09,140 --> 01:53:09,520
Thank you.

1561
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:09,920
Thank you.

1562
01:53:10,060 --> 01:53:11,100
It's a card moment.

1563
01:53:11,700 --> 01:53:12,700
It's a card moment.

1564
01:53:14,900 --> 01:53:16,420
It's a card moment.

1565
01:53:16,420 --> 01:53:18,940
back and give her tax and done correctly.

1566
01:53:19,500 --> 01:53:22,680
I think my name senior is not just not going to try to do so.

1567
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:27,680
I think your taxes may have been directly that small amount of

1568
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,620
she got was based on the trailer and then I'll be kind of.

1569
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:37,120
And even though the house was already there, and now she's paying taxes on the house that's

1570
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:44,080
already there that year, but the amount that we ain't got, or almost been right based

1571
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:44,840
on the trailer.

1572
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,100
So the first year, you build anything.

1573
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:55,260
If you first year, you double your size in the house or the vision, the state does help

1574
01:53:55,260 --> 01:54:01,860
to only face on the prior year, and that becomes almost a construction once.

1575
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:08,820
That first year, you have to pay extra until the state formula, which I'll get least dragged

1576
01:54:08,820 --> 01:54:10,240
after you're behind it.

1577
01:54:10,940 --> 01:54:12,360
Is delicate and efficient.

1578
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:13,780
Are you really putting this up?

1579
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:17,360
Build enough old net because that money from the state

1580
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,660
because the town cat, you've loaded the town.

1581
01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:22,060
I don't know if you can consider that.

1582
01:54:22,300 --> 01:54:23,200
I don't think you can consider that.

1583
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:25,120
You want the natural, what are they?

1584
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:27,240
If you just want the math rent.

1585
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:27,460
You want the math rent.

1586
01:54:27,460 --> 01:54:28,640
On the math with the child's order.

1587
01:54:29,500 --> 01:54:34,640
OK, so I would like to go back to Peggy's suggestion

1588
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:38,580
and I'll consider that emotion to proceed

1589
01:54:38,580 --> 01:54:46,240
in that direction that we can all sit and pack that was okay and things that interest and

1590
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:52,540
advisor just said a payment plan with Kelly that they remain that's who she should go to was that right

1591
01:54:52,540 --> 01:54:59,760
yes stayed people here with town people okay and yes we also have to when we're bathing

1592
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:07,960
for interest in childhood. As you already paid that, if she has, how does she know we

1593
01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:13,740
see those funds as a credit? It's fair. How far are you going to have paid that?

1594
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:18,100
No, that's the other question. I'll borrow this. I'll borrow you paid penalties and interest.

1595
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:22,940
And if there have already been paid, this should get to have.

1596
01:55:23,140 --> 01:55:26,640
I'm going to do that. I'm going to tell you the way that you found something else sometime ago.

1597
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:42,000
Yeah, say it's about completely annoying, or in a case of the process is equally easy or hard to give somebody a credit against a country payment versus cutting them a check for something that they need.

1598
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:44,200
I don't know if you're saying we are paid if we could get that.

1599
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:45,140
Okay, sir.

1600
01:55:45,140 --> 01:55:52,540
But I have a little problem because they were living in the house and getting charged for a trailer.

1601
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,180
So they were already had the house there.

1602
01:55:56,480 --> 01:56:00,080
The only reason why this fall happened was they came in,

1603
01:56:00,140 --> 01:56:04,260
because the listeners said that we didn't take their trailer off because they got rid of it.

1604
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:09,940
So they only sent the tile over there to the house and didn't have the houses already there.

1605
01:56:09,940 --> 01:56:14,080
So it was kind of like I don't I don't like the it's like a double tip

1606
01:56:15,580 --> 01:56:18,340
If they had not gone in on the trailer

1607
01:56:19,180 --> 01:56:26,880
They wouldn't have known that they had the house there. They would be paying on the trailer and so the new appraisal and they wouldn't have told us that

1608
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:30,480
They weren't the one coming to us saying that they put the house there

1609
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:37,420
We stood at the reason why didn't we found that out was because they came to mine because their trailer wasn't

1610
01:56:37,420 --> 01:56:50,470
And then we got a new appraiser right after that, and the list that the previous appraiser

1611
01:56:51,620 --> 01:56:56,740
at Al had did completely get transferred over to Tyler.

1612
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,260
So what about the bills in the Senate?

1613
01:56:59,260 --> 01:57:03,520
I would actually mean that they would have high attacks on a really great number.

1614
01:57:04,260 --> 01:57:11,260
So, I think they had a building permit for the house.

1615
01:57:12,460 --> 01:57:20,180
So, right, and because it was overlooked during the pandemic, it's not.

1616
01:57:20,900 --> 01:57:25,720
I think that over turns the double dipping,

1617
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:30,440
I mean, it's not their fault.

1618
01:57:31,100 --> 01:57:32,560
They got it for a bit.

1619
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:36,620
They told the town that they were building this house.

1620
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:37,880
I don't even know.

1621
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:39,540
I don't enjoy it.

1622
01:57:40,340 --> 01:57:43,580
But not because the town wasn't foreign, but because the town forgot.

1623
01:57:43,940 --> 01:57:45,200
You didn't have a very old building.

1624
01:57:45,700 --> 01:57:47,440
They haven't lived in the old city.

1625
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,800
Yeah, so even in the same situation, also near it.

1626
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:53,800
Right, just the earlier.

1627
01:57:55,340 --> 01:57:58,700
So yeah, we're going to need this kind of compute.

1628
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:02,400
Yeah, we're not leaving. I'm going to kind of have it knocking for one more.

1629
01:58:02,500 --> 01:58:05,400
In the early days of the war until we've got to go collect the money.

1630
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:09,900
And if you came back and made a bacon that you're going to give them an X credit,

1631
01:58:10,220 --> 01:58:12,600
then counting can take the credit to be done with.

1632
01:58:12,900 --> 01:58:15,960
But to go and say that we're going to wait this and wait that.

1633
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:20,180
We would have to come back again and try to figure out what that dollar amount is

1634
01:58:20,180 --> 01:58:26,320
Because it'd be fair to Kelly we got it at and say this is the credit. You got to give to their account

1635
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:28,840
Then set up paper, you know, didn't work

1636
01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:35,240
But we're gonna leave and say we're gonna just give her abs and nobody know who's gonna calculate it

1637
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:39,900
And then there's a we've none of those are going to really know when we read tonight. I'm with one

1638
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:46,500
But I think we can trust Kelly to figure out the penalties and interest rights. Yeah, I know for

1639
01:58:46,500 --> 01:58:47,020
originally

1640
01:58:50,180 --> 01:58:53,180
right, but it doesn't mean it's not.

1641
01:58:53,580 --> 01:58:54,140
I'm just thinking.

1642
01:58:54,740 --> 01:58:55,300
I mean, you know, okay.

1643
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:56,320
That's what I mean.

1644
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:57,800
And what's the important thing?

1645
01:58:57,800 --> 01:58:58,960
We're trying to let go.

1646
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:00,080
Yeah, that's what we got to do.

1647
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:01,540
Yeah, that's what you talk about.

1648
01:59:01,540 --> 01:59:02,920
Well, you talk about cutting some of them and you check.

1649
01:59:03,420 --> 01:59:07,540
That's already behind on the attacks is, this got services for them.

1650
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:08,920
They're kind of plowed.

1651
01:59:09,180 --> 01:59:10,980
There hasn't been picked up.

1652
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:13,240
They're making payments and I understand.

1653
01:59:13,580 --> 01:59:16,440
But are we going to, do a little bad?

1654
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:19,600
They go away for penalties and interest in color of the check.

1655
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:24,760
I don't know, I just want to read that well for you.

1656
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:28,840
Even though these people do seem to be willing to pay their taxes.

1657
01:59:29,820 --> 01:59:32,060
They say that they pay their taxes previously.

1658
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:37,240
She stated that she feels comfortable paying their taxes going forward with them.

1659
01:59:38,020 --> 01:59:46,200
I don't think it's a sort of thing that we give them a check and they run away and don't pay their taxes.

1660
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:51,600
You know, let's see, go from, okay, from right now, from this man forward, this is the way we're going to handle it.

1661
01:59:51,780 --> 01:59:59,680
But we're not going to go back and decide to cut you and check for the last years of this.

1662
02:00:00,910 --> 02:00:08,710
May it be, that's what wasn't being said, because we are into it. We said we were going to cover

1663
02:00:08,710 --> 02:00:13,650
a chat for what they've already paid for penalties and, and I think you don't

1664
02:00:13,650 --> 02:00:17,810
deliver for this year's taxes, that that patient must, but I don't know.

1665
02:00:18,510 --> 02:00:30,250
At 20, more than 25, 10, 20, 24, 25 taxes is what is, so we could specify to forgive the

1666
02:00:30,250 --> 02:00:32,570
interest on the 24-25 taxes.

1667
02:00:34,690 --> 02:00:39,110
If there is, so penalty is, once you miss your tax payment,

1668
02:00:39,290 --> 02:00:45,410
you get like a 10 percent penalty and then it's like a 10 percent. It's been a word for something like that,

1669
02:00:45,690 --> 02:00:49,670
right? I mean, it's kind of vertical and there's a lot of some seconds because it's yielded for a

1670
02:00:49,670 --> 02:00:55,350
second one, but you don't need to know of the second one, you get hit a lot harder and so in February,

1671
02:00:55,350 --> 02:01:02,230
because you also didn't do that in September. It's a formable, but it's never more than

1672
02:01:02,230 --> 02:01:06,290
eight percent. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

1673
02:01:06,290 --> 02:01:10,710
Yeah, as a source, you're calculated by the year, by the day, by the month.

1674
02:01:10,830 --> 02:01:11,870
Yeah, by the month.

1675
02:01:12,210 --> 02:01:13,470
Why don't you want the month?

1676
02:01:14,070 --> 02:01:14,110
Yeah, yeah.

1677
02:01:14,110 --> 02:01:15,510
Why didn't you have to sign a month?

1678
02:01:15,750 --> 02:01:16,170
It's been like that.

1679
02:01:16,310 --> 02:01:17,370
Yeah, yeah.

1680
02:01:17,410 --> 02:01:17,750
Yeah, yeah.

1681
02:01:17,750 --> 02:01:21,050
But then if you don't make the February, then there's a penalty.

1682
02:01:21,050 --> 02:01:26,890
the lenders. I think both. I think it's not much for them. I'm saying. So they give you a chance

1683
02:01:26,890 --> 02:01:31,350
because you just got the bill and you forgot to pay it. It's like we're gonna pass that one

1684
02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:37,070
out there and let you guys change that in September one we would wave sometimes the penalty

1685
02:01:37,070 --> 02:01:41,530
right out front that everybody is a little late, but there's no excuse to be late and bubbly.

1686
02:01:42,750 --> 02:01:50,830
You see what I'm saying? Because you now had that bill the long night and after the

1687
02:01:52,750 --> 02:01:59,070
If you said there was $900,000 per bill, the link will be a little bit of a time

1688
02:01:59,070 --> 02:02:00,130
work on it.

1689
02:02:00,930 --> 02:02:06,590
So he's not the only one that he was at all the time, but she's going to the process and

1690
02:02:06,590 --> 02:02:11,350
is coming to us and asking for process to help her with it.

1691
02:02:11,350 --> 02:02:19,530
Other people are five years out on taxes, quite a while of them, and they aren't coming to

1692
02:02:19,530 --> 02:02:27,530
us at all, and we have not gone through a tax sale process and all that to force it.

1693
02:02:28,710 --> 02:02:34,870
We're heading that direction now, but we have to do it a lot. This process is a lot

1694
02:02:34,870 --> 02:02:37,490
cheap and much more quiet. She's come to us.

1695
02:02:41,650 --> 02:02:43,560
I like the pictures track.

1696
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:47,980
I mean, so far, we've done 27 contracts, since we just

1697
02:02:47,980 --> 02:02:51,580
started to realize with this E. So, Kelly has been working hard at it.

1698
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,220
We're trying to work with these people, and we get caught up.

1699
02:02:54,420 --> 02:02:57,180
I hate setting up a president that we're all saying, hey, wait a minute.

1700
02:02:57,200 --> 02:03:01,420
Go to the VCA and they'll turn around and help you out with it.

1701
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:05,600
On the other hand, is what she'd asked for is help.

1702
02:03:05,820 --> 02:03:07,360
And then they could go over Kelly.

1703
02:03:07,980 --> 02:03:09,720
We couldn't maybe just swipe for it.

1704
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:12,160
that you wish they hear when more charged for the public.

1705
02:03:12,420 --> 02:03:13,500
Each one's all different.

1706
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:17,040
If you sit down with them and try to do a contract with them.

1707
02:03:17,300 --> 02:03:19,180
In the end, they'll all run your trips,

1708
02:03:19,180 --> 02:03:20,840
try to help them out quite their money.

1709
02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:24,360
So we have motion with all.

1710
02:03:25,580 --> 02:03:26,840
We have motion with all.

1711
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:27,840
Yeah, yeah.

1712
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:30,600
Can you state that again, please?

1713
02:03:30,940 --> 02:03:33,180
I make a motion that you have a bait

1714
02:03:33,180 --> 02:03:37,480
for interest in penalties for the tax year 2025

1715
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:41,920
and encouraged her to set up a pain and plan going forward.

1716
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:51,360
This is the 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, so she would go to, so we would

1717
02:03:51,360 --> 02:04:00,240
abate her, so we would find out what those amounts are and credit her for her pain and plan

1718
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:01,140
or maybe the first.

1719
02:04:01,140 --> 02:04:03,140
So Kelly's already charging it.

1720
02:04:03,140 --> 02:04:03,960
You see what I'm saying?

1721
02:04:04,420 --> 02:04:07,040
You know, she's already charging for your,

1722
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:08,300
what she's trying to make the motion

1723
02:04:08,300 --> 02:04:09,900
is that we wait those charges.

1724
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:11,680
Does that make sense?

1725
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:12,060
Yes.

1726
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:13,000
Has she paid them?

1727
02:04:13,260 --> 02:04:13,520
No.

1728
02:04:14,220 --> 02:04:14,720
Okay.

1729
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:18,280
Kelly's already calculated out that here's the penalty.

1730
02:04:18,780 --> 02:04:19,340
Here's the fine.

1731
02:04:19,380 --> 02:04:21,120
What she was, the tax.

1732
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:22,760
Kelly could instantly just say,

1733
02:04:23,020 --> 02:04:24,920
okay, let's give her that yours, the tax.

1734
02:04:25,220 --> 02:04:25,360
Right.

1735
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:25,880
Right.

1736
02:04:26,340 --> 02:04:27,080
That's what she was saying.

1737
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:29,380
That's what she was saying.

1738
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:29,980
Yeah.

1739
02:04:29,980 --> 02:04:33,960
I know that's, but I'm not telling you.

1740
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:35,920
But Kelly would know, I'm not talking about that.

1741
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:36,340
I'm not talking about that.

1742
02:04:36,340 --> 02:04:41,160
Fresh Kelly would say, okay, you're going to work with me.

1743
02:04:41,180 --> 02:04:46,260
Wave it, get out and it's going to be a calendar year too, because it may be a thing

1744
02:04:46,260 --> 02:04:47,060
that is trying to add.

1745
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:48,220
Again, I love it a year.

1746
02:04:48,460 --> 02:04:49,260
That's what I have done.

1747
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:54,520
Yes, she would Kelly would calculate it, though, ready so that some if she called and

1748
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:58,760
said how much I owe Kelly would say you will this month, plus you owe the panel team and

1749
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:03,320
you all the interest, but this isn't that precedent that it's done before. It's

1750
02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:11,040
well, we never wait there or that I don't. I never wait there before.

1751
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:16,240
But it is in the board. Yes. Yes. This is the thing. Yeah, we can do that. There's a

1752
02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:21,720
whistle. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You could go back to, I don't think it's like

1753
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:25,200
we'll have to be involved with it, but they don't know how it doesn't have to be in

1754
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:29,980
But as Rachel said, we make the decision there and that's how it goes.

1755
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:33,240
The decision is that there were kids gotten clear.

1756
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:36,700
We're only taking away the credit if they've already said,

1757
02:05:36,980 --> 02:05:39,020
Hey, I want the money because they gave it.

1758
02:05:39,220 --> 02:05:39,760
No, it's not money.

1759
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:40,380
It's our credit.

1760
02:05:41,600 --> 02:05:41,880
Right.

1761
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:42,640
Right.

1762
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:42,720
Right.

1763
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:44,260
It's the right.

1764
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:50,680
And the real clear that they still have status on both the penalty and the fee.

1765
02:05:50,740 --> 02:05:54,760
So is that starting now or is that starting at the beginning of the tax?

1766
02:05:54,760 --> 02:06:00,820
No, it's not quite a few laughs in front of me last year's right. Yes, it's already a few more 24 or 24

1767
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:02,120
Yes,

1768
02:06:05,060 --> 02:06:10,180
yes, you know, we know you will come after us, but you know what is a dozen paper affecting folks at the time of the

1769
02:06:10,180 --> 02:06:18,260
Okay, so she kept it with me whether it's that age the last year all your penalty of anything is still almost the fact that

1770
02:06:18,260 --> 02:06:23,520
You want to do the payment plan and then how we end when that year. Okay, that's what you're gonna

1771
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:33,440
we have a motion on the floor to vote whether or not we are going to remove the penalties

1772
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:42,640
and interest from last year's tax. Yeah, Bill. Correct. Okay, anybody with

1773
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:49,380
to second gun. Oh, this is already second. Oh, was Susan did. Okay. All right. So let's

1774
02:06:49,380 --> 02:06:57,960
vote with that. Okay. All in favor of that plan, please say I thought I had anybody

1775
02:06:57,960 --> 02:07:10,000
opposed to that? So that was you, man. That was you, man. Okay. So it was, we got

1776
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:23,520
So this last one is quite straightforward.

1777
02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:24,920
You're going to do that.

1778
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:28,020
I'm going to go on.

1779
02:07:28,020 --> 02:07:29,040
I'm going to go on.

1780
02:07:29,100 --> 02:07:29,980
It's even a war.

1781
02:07:31,660 --> 02:07:59,900
First we're going to need a little more contact, we're going to get the public council.

1782
02:08:03,460 --> 02:08:13,380
So that's the only part that we've used for the first thing we've made enough, and I can't do the math, but if we test this on, it's for the only part.

1783
02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:17,820
So when I go down, you do it. Okay.

1784
02:08:17,820 --> 02:08:22,100
And I use the non-holstead rate because it's very soft.

1785
02:08:22,540 --> 02:08:22,920
Yes, right.

1786
02:08:23,420 --> 02:08:27,700
It should be not about five inches, two points, seven, five, four, oh, kind of,

1787
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:28,820
4, 1, 1, 100.

1788
02:08:29,080 --> 02:08:30,480
This goes up under $12.

1789
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:31,780
And $9,000.

1790
02:08:32,540 --> 02:08:33,140
That'd be good.

1791
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:34,700
And is that for that?

1792
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:35,340
That's a little further.

1793
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:36,260
That's clear.

1794
02:08:36,760 --> 02:08:41,400
Another thing to claim is that it burned on March 3rd for the saying.

1795
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:47,700
And that we step it up or close our accounting for things.

1796
02:08:47,700 --> 02:08:54,880
is April 1st. So, I wasn't ignore the one day. Oh, I can't stand there.

1797
02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:59,860
Let's say it's just starting from April, but I should say we're just saying.

1798
02:09:00,260 --> 02:09:01,940
That's 20, 7, 20 steps.

1799
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:04,060
The 25, 26 steps. Okay.

1800
02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:06,280
And then this is a lot of understanding this clear.

1801
02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:10,580
There's, you automatically do it next year until the cab is back up.

1802
02:09:10,660 --> 02:09:11,760
We'll take it off.

1803
02:09:11,860 --> 02:09:12,420
We'll take it off.

1804
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:16,140
We'll first, next year, time we will go and see if there's anything different.

1805
02:09:16,660 --> 02:09:19,340
so we're only doing out of here for that one.

1806
02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:21,080
There's a pair of red stuff.

1807
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:25,360
You're abiding the shirt and they have a share or a share.

1808
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:26,620
There's this year.

1809
02:09:27,140 --> 02:09:27,600
This year.

1810
02:09:30,720 --> 02:09:31,620
So I think.

1811
02:09:31,620 --> 02:09:33,920
All year when I was saying so.

1812
02:09:34,360 --> 02:09:36,200
So I have a son that's a son that's not.

1813
02:09:36,580 --> 02:09:37,360
That's because he's doing it.

1814
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:39,060
Yeah, you know, it's like that.

1815
02:09:40,260 --> 02:09:41,260
I think.

1816
02:09:41,260 --> 02:09:41,540
I think it's cool.

1817
02:09:41,980 --> 02:09:42,460
I think it's cool.

1818
02:09:42,460 --> 02:09:42,720
I think it's cool.

1819
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:43,720
I've been here for the last year.

1820
02:09:43,980 --> 02:09:46,660
I've got to be more of the count on your $12 dollars.

1821
02:09:47,060 --> 02:09:48,040
91 cents.

1822
02:09:49,060 --> 02:09:49,540
I'm sorry.

1823
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:51,760
Really, thanks.

1824
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:53,480
I might be a problem with that.

1825
02:09:53,740 --> 02:09:54,000
Yeah.

1826
02:09:54,340 --> 02:09:57,060
She made a point to say it was 331.

1827
02:09:57,660 --> 02:10:00,960
So I could put the proposed that you would know that one day.

1828
02:10:01,320 --> 02:10:03,820
But I think they're looking for the last year also.

1829
02:10:04,620 --> 02:10:05,960
I don't know that.

1830
02:10:06,260 --> 02:10:07,180
She asked me the last year.

1831
02:10:07,180 --> 02:10:08,940
She never does the only go from the day.

1832
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:11,360
Well, I've done enough of these burns of the ground.

1833
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:18,520
We've always credit, we've always credit from the day whatever percentage we've left in that year, so it was only one day left in that year.

1834
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:24,440
So when being paid for that would only be the third percent public.

1835
02:10:26,740 --> 02:10:28,500
I don't know how that time of the third year.

1836
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:32,360
I don't know how that time of the third year.

1837
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:33,040
I don't know how that time of the third year.

1838
02:10:33,380 --> 02:10:35,320
That's definitely a taxable man.

1839
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:38,820
Okay, bird did nothing about something like that.

1840
02:10:38,820 --> 02:10:42,060
because of the brands on up there, do they have an opportunity to want it?

1841
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:45,540
I like two years later.

1842
02:10:46,100 --> 02:10:46,880
And does that happen?

1843
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:47,500
No, I see.

1844
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:48,500
It's somebody's home.

1845
02:10:48,900 --> 02:10:50,080
They can't believe they know.

1846
02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:52,040
No, don't have to expect it.

1847
02:10:52,260 --> 02:10:53,160
That's only for it.

1848
02:10:53,500 --> 02:10:53,600
I know what.

1849
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:54,680
I thought it was actually.

1850
02:10:54,980 --> 02:10:56,200
I think we should put the doll on.

1851
02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:57,000
I know.

1852
02:10:57,380 --> 02:10:58,540
It is actually burned.

1853
02:10:58,940 --> 02:10:59,320
Oh, joint length.

1854
02:10:59,340 --> 02:10:59,680
I know.

1855
02:11:00,620 --> 02:11:01,500
Don't want it.

1856
02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:02,720
We saw it.

1857
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:03,120
It's out.

1858
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:04,200
But it's hard.

1859
02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:05,400
It's hard.

1860
02:11:05,660 --> 02:11:06,400
There's a thin word.

1861
02:11:06,860 --> 02:11:07,300
There's nothing.

1862
02:11:07,300 --> 02:11:09,760
And there's nothing there.

1863
02:11:10,060 --> 02:11:15,340
And what I want to say, we worked out without the dollar that you made a motion that

1864
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:22,420
we made this tax on this account for we lower the value of his property by 41,000.

1865
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:22,980
What do you're saying?

1866
02:11:23,660 --> 02:11:24,360
What do you want to do?

1867
02:11:24,380 --> 02:11:24,660
I don't want to.

1868
02:11:24,660 --> 02:11:24,780
I'm sorry.

1869
02:11:26,980 --> 02:11:30,100
By the valuation of the account, it no longer deserves it.

1870
02:11:30,100 --> 02:11:30,760
That's that.

1871
02:11:30,940 --> 02:11:32,380
We lower the valuation of the property.

1872
02:11:32,580 --> 02:11:32,740
Yeah.

1873
02:11:32,740 --> 02:11:34,220
I didn't leave it up to them to say that.

1874
02:11:34,220 --> 02:11:35,420
By the valuation of the account.

1875
02:11:35,420 --> 02:11:38,140
that by $4,000, but $4,100?

1876
02:11:39,080 --> 02:11:39,200
Okay.

1877
02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:40,600
Where is it?

1878
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:41,640
That's here.

1879
02:11:43,150 --> 02:11:45,900
So maybe we should have a new emotion.

1880
02:11:46,260 --> 02:11:46,500
Oh yeah.

1881
02:11:46,620 --> 02:11:47,960
I'm just wondering I'm all right.

1882
02:11:49,300 --> 02:11:52,360
Make a motion that we lower it.

1883
02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:55,300
You've more than $100,000 for this.

1884
02:11:55,300 --> 02:11:57,840
This will be near $20,000.

1885
02:11:58,060 --> 02:11:58,680
$1,500.

1886
02:11:58,960 --> 02:11:59,400
That's you.

1887
02:11:59,660 --> 02:12:02,260
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1888
02:12:02,260 --> 02:12:07,960
on that. On that parcel. We'll we'll we'll on that.

1889
02:12:09,340 --> 02:12:11,600
And we'll have the grand list.

1890
02:12:11,980 --> 02:12:13,260
And finally, there are some emissions.

1891
02:12:13,540 --> 02:12:15,580
We'll select words for that.

1892
02:12:15,900 --> 02:12:17,440
And it's a camera program.

1893
02:12:17,860 --> 02:12:20,160
We'll calculate what the balance is.

1894
02:12:20,340 --> 02:12:21,200
We still have come out.

1895
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:22,500
And then we'll.

1896
02:12:22,980 --> 02:12:23,580
And then we'll.

1897
02:12:23,960 --> 02:12:24,360
Belly.

1898
02:12:27,180 --> 02:12:27,860
So as we can.

1899
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:30,540
We're just going to tell him that we've agreed to lower

1900
02:12:30,540 --> 02:12:39,560
evaluation for the tax in your 2025-26 by the appraised value of that cabin, which was $4,100,

1901
02:12:40,160 --> 02:12:45,640
and then he will be receiving a new tax bill. Okay, so good enough.

1902
02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:50,360
all those grandsonas. And I'm not a good girl.

1903
02:12:51,300 --> 02:12:53,160
Is there a second? Certainly.

1904
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:54,540
Thank you, Jeanette.

1905
02:12:55,380 --> 02:12:59,520
Okay. I think that at this point, we can close those two.

1906
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:00,320
All of them.

1907
02:13:00,340 --> 02:13:01,100
They ever say.

1908
02:13:01,140 --> 02:13:01,600
We have to go.

1909
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:02,880
We need to go.

1910
02:13:04,140 --> 02:13:04,940
All those in favor.

1911
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:06,760
Hi.

1912
02:13:08,020 --> 02:13:10,020
And John is...

1913
02:13:10,020 --> 02:13:10,760
I'm more in favor.

1914
02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:11,640
You're good on that.

1915
02:13:12,060 --> 02:13:12,080
Okay.

1916
02:13:13,020 --> 02:13:13,440
That's you.

1917
02:13:14,040 --> 02:13:18,040
It's great. Thank you. Okay people, I think I'm going to close this meeting.

1918
02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:19,700
And I'm going to close the meeting during.

1919
02:13:19,700 --> 02:13:21,140
Yeah, I'm going to close the meeting during.

1920
02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:27,540
And we have reconvened the week.

1921
02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:28,240
Yes.

1922
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:29,000
Hi, Zoom.

1923
02:13:29,460 --> 02:13:30,940
Yes, we can do that by the time.

1924
02:13:30,940 --> 02:13:32,100
I have to hear how it happens.

1925
02:13:33,060 --> 02:13:34,700
Or we can live by in person.

1926
02:13:35,540 --> 02:13:36,820
Or whatever, or it's interesting.

1927
02:13:37,140 --> 02:13:38,200
I think we've actually done.

1928
02:13:38,220 --> 02:13:38,960
I'm going to do.

1929
02:13:39,220 --> 02:13:40,520
And we hope to learn for us.

1930
02:13:40,680 --> 02:13:41,420
It's made of energy.

1931
02:13:41,420 --> 02:13:42,060
It's not there.

1932
02:13:42,180 --> 02:13:42,420
Right.

1933
02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:42,900
He's not there.