1 00:00:06,740 --> 00:00:24,920 Okay, I'd like to call this meeting of the select board to order. It's August 4th at 602 and we're in the town hall. And I will make a motion that we approved the minutes from 21 July, 2026. 2 00:00:25,540 --> 00:00:33,960 So moved on favor and I would make motion that we review and approve the 3 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:41,260 manifest which which we all got to look at on favor say hi there's 4 00:00:46,730 --> 00:00:46,970 a minute 5 00:00:46,970 --> 00:00:53,630 there's five pieces of this manifest mostly because I send her things on Thursday 6 00:00:53,630 --> 00:00:59,590 then I send her more things on Monday so luckily it's a new pen and it has a lot 7 00:00:59,590 --> 00:01:06,790 Where it goes, so yeah, there's five of them, but there's always at least two because 8 00:01:06,790 --> 00:01:12,490 one of the things we already paid in the debit card or ACH and the others are checks. 9 00:01:26,140 --> 00:01:29,660 Yeah, it's nice getting these in advance. 10 00:01:30,460 --> 00:01:30,780 Yeah. 11 00:01:35,740 --> 00:01:40,260 So if these were all one document that you sent us, it was 13 pages like that. 12 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:40,700 Yeah. 13 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:43,880 Doesn't really matter. 14 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,340 No. 15 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:56,500 No, but it was, I like the way these come to us now, very easily, yeah, much easier than 16 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:57,360 we're quick focusing. 17 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,860 Well, and I love the plot, as I did through it, the plot, yes. 18 00:02:07,060 --> 00:02:08,280 How to spend money plot? 19 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Well, 20 00:02:15,020 --> 00:02:25,740 it is a lot on this round because all the school rooms are also transferred all of what was going on for the capital reserves for the trustees as well. 21 00:02:26,140 --> 00:02:31,060 Yeah, but I like having that already done. That's, you know, turning interest like it's good. 22 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:41,960 Well, we usually do it in the summer or begin a fall, so I just want to hand it about on thoroughly just so that we could do a better job. 23 00:02:42,420 --> 00:02:42,840 I 24 00:02:52,380 --> 00:02:53,240 can find a work. 25 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:54,800 There's 26 00:02:57,710 --> 00:02:59,430 a water sign-up after a while. 27 00:03:00,890 --> 00:03:01,290 Sorry. 28 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,920 I bring a signature everywhere I go. 29 00:03:07,550 --> 00:03:09,630 So we don't have any guests to have anything to say. 30 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:10,050 Do we? 31 00:03:10,490 --> 00:03:11,190 We don't have any guests. 32 00:03:11,690 --> 00:03:11,830 Okay. 33 00:03:13,290 --> 00:03:14,030 Old business. 34 00:03:14,430 --> 00:03:15,610 Real trail update. 35 00:03:17,510 --> 00:03:18,910 So I guess I can talk to that. 36 00:03:20,110 --> 00:03:20,270 Good. 37 00:03:20,710 --> 00:03:20,850 Yeah. 38 00:03:22,310 --> 00:03:25,510 So the Westside Central Health is putting for a couple of grants 39 00:03:26,650 --> 00:03:44,890 to improvements on the rail trail. One of almost because there was a washout just a little bit in the work of the Crusher Road and it was getting worse and of course as you know we're trying to improve that rail trail so that everybody can use it and have a good time and have it be safe. 40 00:03:44,890 --> 00:03:57,370 So I was awarded a grant and it was a 60-40 match and we had white scrouse keeping bring 41 00:03:57,370 --> 00:04:03,590 out some rip wrap and fill in where it was going to wash out, repair the area, resurface 42 00:04:03,590 --> 00:04:04,190 the area. 43 00:04:04,810 --> 00:04:08,170 So that job is complete and it came out very nicely. 44 00:04:08,690 --> 00:04:11,210 We're very happy with the work that was done. 45 00:04:11,210 --> 00:04:19,990 But the money that I asked for is $9,250, and so the club got $6,750. 46 00:04:21,590 --> 00:04:28,290 And the recreational committee had worked out, I guess, we have $10,000 that may be appropriated 47 00:04:28,290 --> 00:04:30,210 for this rail track improvement. 48 00:04:32,350 --> 00:04:36,690 So the recreation committee was going to make sure that this vessel, it's no doubt it's 49 00:04:36,690 --> 00:04:37,750 got that $2,500. 50 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:47,050 Then there's another project between Wonder Road and Gilbo Road that I wrote a grant for. 51 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:56,270 And the grant that I wrote in for was for Sherpat to resurface the area, starting at Wonder 52 00:04:56,270 --> 00:04:56,710 Road. 53 00:04:57,150 --> 00:04:58,250 Have you all gone up there? 54 00:04:59,410 --> 00:04:59,550 No. 55 00:04:59,770 --> 00:05:00,410 All the real trail? 56 00:05:00,710 --> 00:05:00,870 No. 57 00:05:00,970 --> 00:05:02,350 I've been on the real trail over the years. 58 00:05:02,830 --> 00:05:03,070 Okay. 59 00:05:03,570 --> 00:05:04,830 Well, the real trail used to be a mess. 60 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:05,390 It was. 61 00:05:05,390 --> 00:05:13,210 And now you can actually ride your bicycle all the way from the sick home wall pole all the way to King easily. 62 00:05:13,630 --> 00:05:19,310 Not only in the King, the west spots, any mud, anything terrible, but there are areas that are rough 63 00:05:19,870 --> 00:05:22,990 and they have roots in them and so on. 64 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:27,050 And one of those areas is between London Road and Gilmore Road. 65 00:05:28,410 --> 00:05:32,910 So I put in 420 yards of shirtpack 66 00:05:33,650 --> 00:05:40,150 And it was awarded to the club and then what the Recreation Committee would like to do. 67 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:41,390 The snow belters. 68 00:05:41,790 --> 00:05:48,690 The snow belters, that's the great, but the Recreation Committee would like to get that material 69 00:05:48,690 --> 00:05:56,550 over the snow belters guy and have white's landscape people, white people, what's the name 70 00:05:56,550 --> 00:05:57,010 of his business? 71 00:05:58,030 --> 00:06:05,970 Zayn White, anyway, Zayn White, truck it there, and spread it, and then the Recreation Committee 72 00:06:05,970 --> 00:06:12,630 will have volunteers pack it, and the area that they'll actually put the new shirt 73 00:06:12,630 --> 00:06:18,290 hat will be from London Road, and then if you go London Road, it starts off not 74 00:06:18,290 --> 00:06:23,510 actually being where the rail trail used to be, it's kind of to the side of it, and that's 75 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:29,470 all the knots I don't even know, all the loops I don't even think. Then you get onto 76 00:06:29,470 --> 00:06:34,550 the rail trail, and it's kind of rough getting down to where it washed out years ago when 77 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:38,810 we had the floods. And then it starts to level out again. So we don't even do from where 78 00:06:38,810 --> 00:06:45,650 it starts to level out back to one end of the road. And we got an estimate from Watt's. 79 00:06:45,650 --> 00:06:55,870 He said $1,500 a day for his guy, the trucking, the whole nine yards, and we figured he would probably take about $1,000 by this. 80 00:06:57,070 --> 00:07:03,790 So our plan was to use most of the other $7,500 to do that project. 81 00:07:04,350 --> 00:07:06,630 I thought you'd leave $100 in the account. 82 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:10,530 I thought you had a grant for it. You said you got a grant for the materials. 83 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:20,870 but not for the labor. So Bruce Clement and I have talked about a lot and he was 84 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:25,530 under the impression that we had you know $10,000 to spend. I agree that's a false 85 00:07:25,530 --> 00:07:33,070 impression. It was. Well, yeah. So anyways, what really needs to happen for the 86 00:07:33,070 --> 00:07:37,550 Westland snow balkers is snow balkers to be re-impressed because we don't have 87 00:07:37,550 --> 00:07:46,630 money. The club would be extended. So the $2,500 really liked to see the club get reimbursed 88 00:07:46,630 --> 00:07:54,290 because that was been done and James being paid. So, yeah. 89 00:07:57,530 --> 00:08:01,910 When the club came in, the potential 90 00:08:01,910 --> 00:08:08,770 committee came in to speak with us. It was, I don't remember if you were there, but there's a 91 00:08:08,770 --> 00:08:17,450 gentleman from the consortium, the rail trailer for Michael, Allen Bruce, 92 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:22,980 and the presenters 93 00:08:22,980 --> 00:08:33,780 with a proposal. The last words of that proposal, second to last paragraph, say, importantly, this 94 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:39,340 this year will not add to the town's bottom line. All funding will come from grants, gifts, 95 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,560 and private donations, not from the town's operating budget. Every dollar received and spent 96 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:51,720 to the rail through the Trail Trust Fund will represent outside financial support, contributing 97 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:59,200 to the town's assets and infrastructure at no cost to the taxpayers. So that $10,000 that was put 98 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,780 into the parts of our creation fund is not money that they raised that was 99 00:09:04,780 --> 00:09:12,740 money that 20 some odd years ago was misappropriated and we tried to do it in 100 00:09:12,740 --> 00:09:19,980 2024 and found that that was that we couldn't do it at that point either so it 101 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:22,120 went back into the 102 00:09:24,130 --> 00:09:31,110 surplus and then to make it so that we could 103 00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:40,170 didn't use that money, we voted on it again in 2025 and brought that into that fund. During 104 00:09:40,170 --> 00:09:47,750 that town hall meeting, it was mentioned that that is a possible use for, the rail 105 00:09:47,750 --> 00:09:55,530 shows a possible use of that money, but not the sole use of that money. As far, 106 00:10:01,090 --> 00:10:01,090 no, now 107 00:10:01,090 --> 00:10:10,810 the fact that you, as the snowmeltors, came up with a grant and were able to do the work. 108 00:10:13,030 --> 00:10:15,070 Yeah, I think you should have reversed that. 109 00:10:15,650 --> 00:10:19,550 Ideally, we should have known that that was going to happen. 110 00:10:19,930 --> 00:10:23,670 Yes, I thought everybody knew all about the whole thing, A to Z. 111 00:10:25,370 --> 00:10:29,170 This was the first I heard about it. 112 00:10:29,170 --> 00:10:32,330 I was glad to believe was that the money was there, 113 00:10:32,690 --> 00:10:34,490 there was for the recreation committee 114 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:37,090 or the Snowbelches project on the rail trail. 115 00:10:37,290 --> 00:10:37,770 That's not. 116 00:10:37,830 --> 00:10:38,930 And that it was a goal. 117 00:10:39,290 --> 00:10:41,250 No matter what happens with a cap of reserve, 118 00:10:41,250 --> 00:10:43,470 it has to come to the select committee for. 119 00:10:43,550 --> 00:10:45,710 Which is good thing, it's a good thing 120 00:10:45,710 --> 00:10:48,690 that Christians did not have any shirt pack 121 00:10:48,690 --> 00:10:50,030 as we were going to start that Monday. 122 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:51,670 That would have been really bad. 123 00:10:51,730 --> 00:10:52,710 That would have been really bad. 124 00:10:52,990 --> 00:10:55,170 So everything happens for a reason. 125 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:56,950 So I'm glad it is, 126 00:10:56,950 --> 00:10:59,470 That's a good timing, huh? 127 00:10:59,710 --> 00:11:00,490 This is good timing. 128 00:11:00,650 --> 00:11:08,110 It's great timing, because if we can still get the material, 129 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:11,650 I have to just show that the material was bought. 130 00:11:12,750 --> 00:11:18,770 And the material could be put on the railbed near that area. 131 00:11:19,530 --> 00:11:23,650 And then funds can be appropriated somehow 132 00:11:23,650 --> 00:11:29,510 out from somewhere, donations, or volunteer work to get the work done in a later time. 133 00:11:30,190 --> 00:11:32,530 But right now we don't always aim at any money. 134 00:11:33,390 --> 00:11:37,810 Except for what we've already done north of the pressure work. 135 00:11:38,130 --> 00:11:52,710 So personally, I'll make a motion that we take $2,525, $2,500 from the Park and Recreation 136 00:11:52,710 --> 00:11:57,850 capital reserve fund to reimburse the snow belters for the work they have done 137 00:11:58,570 --> 00:12:05,290 repairing the culvert and that portion of the rail tool. 138 00:12:05,290 --> 00:12:06,230 I'll take that. 139 00:12:06,690 --> 00:12:07,410 All in favor? 140 00:12:08,050 --> 00:12:08,290 All right. 141 00:12:09,050 --> 00:12:14,550 Yeah, and if I had known that money wasn't already there and wasn't appropriate for 142 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:16,550 that, I wouldn't be here actually. 143 00:12:16,930 --> 00:12:20,050 But that's a good way we would have done it because we don't have the money. 144 00:12:26,050 --> 00:12:40,070 So, to me, before the rail trail committee decides what work they're going to do, they 145 00:12:40,070 --> 00:12:45,290 need to come to us and let us know exactly what they're going to do. 146 00:12:45,290 --> 00:12:54,750 And then we will discuss it, like we are right now, and decide, okay, is that good use 147 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:55,990 of that fun? 148 00:12:58,250 --> 00:13:06,010 It was never intended in my mind, and I don't know about anybody else's here at the 149 00:13:06,010 --> 00:13:09,650 town meeting, that this was all going to go to the rail trail. 150 00:13:10,690 --> 00:13:13,070 We were also talking about a tennis court. 151 00:13:13,890 --> 00:13:20,130 We've been talking about various other potential areas in town, where we might do something like the, 152 00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:28,330 there's a lot of, what's the, what's the, the state, the state park we just found out that we have. 153 00:13:28,630 --> 00:13:31,810 It's not a new state park. We just didn't know that it was. 154 00:13:31,910 --> 00:13:37,830 It's probably related to the bridge we're paying for also. 155 00:13:39,150 --> 00:13:41,390 So everybody gave us a lot of gifts. 156 00:13:43,690 --> 00:13:45,330 Yeah, so that's good. 157 00:13:45,570 --> 00:13:48,550 So if I could add also. 158 00:13:48,990 --> 00:13:53,970 To me, and again, I assume that you or someone from the organization goes to the 159 00:13:53,970 --> 00:13:59,670 Recreation Committee meetings, because they're kind of, I mean, you're a subcommittee within. 160 00:14:00,390 --> 00:14:06,830 Right. Well, what happened was, I guess what, what I'd like 161 00:14:06,830 --> 00:14:14,270 happen is there is now a capital reserve and the committee has that and minus 162 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:18,990 two thousand five hundred dollars now and it'd be very hopeful if that 163 00:14:18,990 --> 00:14:23,210 committee gets together and develops a plan like what do we want to do this 164 00:14:23,210 --> 00:14:29,130 next five years yeah and and then have a plan for how this that way we don't get 165 00:14:29,130 --> 00:14:38,490 surprised. And this stuff can happen in a kind of a logical, easy manner. Because, again, 166 00:14:38,650 --> 00:14:43,310 I just don't understand how anybody can think, well let's just go spend this money. Because 167 00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:50,870 guess who's going to answer the mail on that? Not the recreation committee. And as a wise 168 00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:56,150 person said today, we got people upset that we're not paving roads. And then we turn around and 169 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:58,450 and spend money to, you know, make a... 170 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:11,160 That would be problematic and quite honestly, you know, for the total impact on the town. It's, you know, it's minimal. 171 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:17,040 But, well, what we've done so far, you have to see the issue. So it's actually a good thing that that was taken care of. 172 00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:27,100 The rest of it is passables, just not nice. And it would be great to have that all be nice someday. I think that's in the plans. 173 00:15:27,620 --> 00:15:37,320 For the future, they are talking about a recreational trails program later on, and that's also an 80-20 match, I think, is what that is. 174 00:15:37,820 --> 00:15:45,560 So it would be nice eventually to have a rail trail from, say, the dump and keying all the way into Graves' pit. 175 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,720 Nice enough for a six-year-old, right, a bicycle on. 176 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:55,240 Yeah, please don't take this in any way that we are against you. I know you guys want it. We want this. 177 00:15:55,320 --> 00:16:03,340 This has to be done. But there's a way to do it that we can actually make sure it eventually happens. 178 00:16:03,580 --> 00:16:05,560 It's just not going to be tomorrow. 179 00:16:06,020 --> 00:16:11,440 But it's not going to say that the next meeting directly, they could get together and say, 180 00:16:12,180 --> 00:16:16,020 It's a quick 500 months to get some of it done or some way to have it done. 181 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:16,420 Right. 182 00:16:16,860 --> 00:16:18,440 So, you know, I'm here. 183 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:24,840 I heard a group of downward park, you know, if there was money needed there, it wasn't 184 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,480 up to the SPAC, so whatever. 185 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:33,060 It's going to be, I would guess, relatively substantial, but work needs to get done to 186 00:16:33,060 --> 00:16:34,320 even find the fence, I think. 187 00:16:34,740 --> 00:16:35,380 So, you what? 188 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:36,500 To find the fence. 189 00:16:36,900 --> 00:16:37,140 Oh. 190 00:16:37,140 --> 00:16:44,040 areas because it's over on the brush and stuff so there's there's yeah I know there's a hole in it 191 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,520 because there's a hole in it for years we used to use it to get to the snowmobile. 192 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:57,080 Well there's like I played ball there is a kid that's what we did all day when I was growing up 193 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:02,980 like grew up right on the corner of south. So that so that that area is traditionally used to get 194 00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:07,000 to the trail then by the snowmobile. Not anymore. Oh because I was going to say if we're 195 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,820 We're going to put a fence up, we need to put a gate there. 196 00:17:09,380 --> 00:17:10,040 No, not anymore. 197 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,200 That's all. 198 00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:13,900 Help people either go up and down the press room. 199 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,940 And I have a trail that goes through the church yard. 200 00:17:17,140 --> 00:17:20,100 It comes out on the rail trail which is shy of one to go. 201 00:17:20,580 --> 00:17:20,880 Okay. 202 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:21,520 All right. 203 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,720 On Robbie King's Barrier's property and John Williams's property. 204 00:17:26,660 --> 00:17:28,420 Which I have written permission for. 205 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:30,060 Nice. 206 00:17:32,860 --> 00:17:34,640 I have an idea. 207 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:49,580 Yeah, that may help with this, but since I just sort of found out about this today, or actually I guess yesterday, it's not completely vetted yet. 208 00:17:50,020 --> 00:17:57,700 So let's see what happens in the future, but for the committee needs to come to us. 209 00:17:58,020 --> 00:17:58,200 Right. 210 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:04,360 you know as Mark said with a plan here's what we want to do year one year two you 211 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:09,680 know however you know y'all want to break it out yeah we're considering writing a 212 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,820 grant we've got to get you guys in bed with us first right before we even bother 213 00:18:13,820 --> 00:18:21,000 writing a grant yeah because to start work without knowing if the grant's coming 214 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:28,240 Internet is not going to happen and the fact that you've got a grant how much 215 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:36,080 was the grant for the shirt pack? Well I got $7,560 with the shirt pack but it has to buy 216 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:42,540 a shirt pack. Yeah we can't do anything else and buy anything else. Right. That's all that's good for us. 217 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:50,160 And how far is that kind of? That would be hilarious. What it would do is it would allow us to do it's 218 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:56,880 about 2,000 feet and we'd be six inches deep all the way from Monday road to where the 219 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,180 slope ends before it flatens out before we get more of it. 220 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:04,200 How easy is it to get equipment there? 221 00:19:04,780 --> 00:19:06,620 We can get it up front of it, okay. 222 00:19:07,260 --> 00:19:16,720 And in fact, Zayn was willing to actually bring it in and spread that whole distance for 223 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:17,080 us. 224 00:19:18,140 --> 00:19:24,520 And we thought, well, we thought we had five days with money, that, you know, that was the idea. 225 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:30,680 So we would have him go in and get as much time as he could get done in five days, which I think he'd get it all done. 226 00:19:31,420 --> 00:19:39,100 And then somebody was going to do, somebody around here has a pattern, you know, a roller then, actually vibrates. 227 00:19:39,220 --> 00:19:42,280 And that's the best one to have to have that set in nicely. 228 00:19:43,260 --> 00:19:46,520 So that was, had been an excuse for some of those. 229 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,940 So how were you going to get the shirt back at this point? 230 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:49,940 Zayn. 231 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,780 Zayn, we go get it, I set up an account for the Stoke Outters with pushers. 232 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,740 OK, so now- 233 00:19:58,740 --> 00:20:00,100 But right now I don't have trucking. 234 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,200 There you go. 235 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:03,580 Trucking was part of what the town was going to do. 236 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,940 What Zayn was going to do? 237 00:20:08,860 --> 00:20:19,160 So, you having purchased the Sure Pack from Cushing, they're willing to let it sit there for a bit? 238 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,500 Yeah, I guess they have somebody coming this week to produce it from, I guess, material they have since then. 239 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,980 So basically, make Sure Pack if you can't get a truck. 240 00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:34,740 Yeah, the shirt actually is going to sit here at this point, right? 241 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,560 You're not probably calling Ezra tomorrow to tell him. 242 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:42,780 You haven't, you know, it's too much of a pain in the butt to make the shirt back. 243 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,620 We'll bother right now. Things are ugly. 244 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,160 Yeah, how many hairs are in this? 245 00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:47,340 420. 246 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:50,500 Quite a few double trunks, so that's about 40. 247 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,120 Double trunks. 248 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:58,240 I mean, if you think about Zayn doing that for 1,500 bucks a day, 249 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:06,000 That's a lot of gas. That's a lot of prison. He does get good price. He's done all the work at my house. He's very good. 250 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,200 Well, I certainly have no dog in this fight. 251 00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:16,100 Well, as you guys know what the draft committee wants to do. 252 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,860 Right. So now we know the plan. 253 00:21:19,180 --> 00:21:22,200 Well, that's the first paragraph of the five year plan. 254 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,400 So that's the first paragraph of the five year plan. 255 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:33,840 Yeah. And I mean, the five-year plan is to make it sort of that whole section. Like I said, 256 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:39,420 six-year-old could ride a bicycle from one end to another. It's kind of interesting because 257 00:21:39,420 --> 00:21:45,220 the only thing I've heard about from the recreation committee in the last couple of years was they've 258 00:21:45,220 --> 00:21:50,760 concerned for the tennis court and the fence. I'd like to go over that apparently. Well, it's 259 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:57,440 There's a lot of things to be just ripped out, it's pretty much a lot, so they either need to replace it or whatever. 260 00:21:58,260 --> 00:21:59,800 Yeah, I mean, good at being part of it. 261 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:00,740 There was a lot of things. 262 00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:01,280 I'm sorry. 263 00:22:01,700 --> 00:22:03,540 There's a lot of things on that rail trail. 264 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,200 And there actually started to monitor it. 265 00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:10,100 There's a monitor from some sort at the summit. 266 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,100 Yeah, I saw some dead off of that. 267 00:22:13,260 --> 00:22:18,000 How it's changed from three years ago to today. 268 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,580 Yeah, and it's getting good use, it doesn't necessarily get getting good use from 269 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:27,540 watch line residents, but it's getting good use, but a lot of people do use it, including 270 00:22:27,540 --> 00:22:28,160 people from town. 271 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:36,040 I feel like this is sort of like, it's almost like you've got a 50-50 grant that is what 272 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:36,740 I'm looking for. 273 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Right, so it's a medium, it's a two-to-one return on one, which is good. 274 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,180 different than what we're kind of thinking it was like in place of getting a 275 00:22:49,180 --> 00:22:51,420 grant but it's really a grant match. Yeah, it's a match. 276 00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:56,440 So I think we need which 277 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,920 I can say that Susie did put in an email that said that the recreation committee 278 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:07,780 as a whole wasn't support of the real trail work being done so. Okay so that just 279 00:23:07,780 --> 00:23:14,000 I just want to feed you the pieces and make a decision from there. 280 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:21,620 Yeah, because the rail trail project, if you think of it from the snowmobiles point of view, doesn't matter. 281 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,740 Yes, it's covered in snow. 282 00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:27,220 Right, so if there's snow on it, you're right. 283 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,100 So six-year-old kids, right? 284 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:41,000 But, you know, as far as walking and riding bicycles and horses and all that, there in the summer time it's wonderful to see people out there. 285 00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:49,740 Because I go out from time to time like before with my chainsaw and cut things out of the way or trying to throw big stuff out of the ditches. 286 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:56,880 You know, just to keep those ditches open because we've established the ditch system all the way down through that old rail trail. 287 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:03,340 So now the water is all steaming off the trail, so now I'm washing the trail out in the 288 00:24:03,980 --> 00:24:06,780 cut that I've already said nothing to do with what's the name of that. 289 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,940 We've surried where it goes through the ledges towards the dump. 290 00:24:11,420 --> 00:24:13,620 That's all above grade now. 291 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,060 The ditches are established on both sides and years ago you couldn't even get through 292 00:24:19,060 --> 00:24:19,340 this area. 293 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,440 That's a class five room. 294 00:24:23,340 --> 00:24:29,500 You know, another good thing about having this trail open is like if we ever had a washout 295 00:24:30,060 --> 00:24:35,640 on loop 12s, like say where the iron can used to be, we have a way down into two. 296 00:24:36,420 --> 00:24:42,140 You could drive all the way down through and get to key, come out through the water tower 297 00:24:42,140 --> 00:24:42,480 is. 298 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:48,020 And you know, it would be a way to get around if there was several washouts as well. 299 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:54,200 May I make a suggestion? Let's bring the Rail Trail Committee into your next meeting. 300 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:55,340 Sure. 301 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:05,000 Next meeting is going to be Thursday, not two days, but nine days. 302 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,080 Because we have to move that being because many of us are not around. 303 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:09,620 Yep. 304 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,820 And it's going to be a Tate Park in the morning. 305 00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:16,640 It's 306 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,440 only agenda 13th. 307 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,600 13th right now? 308 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:24,040 Yes. 309 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,240 So that 310 00:25:29,930 --> 00:25:34,710 gives us a little bit of time to think about this. 311 00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:47,070 And you know, the fact that you already have the shirt pack brand is different from what 312 00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:49,150 I was aware of yesterday. 313 00:25:49,530 --> 00:25:52,570 Yeah, because we were told that there was a grant they didn't know if they had yet. 314 00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:53,430 Oh no, we had it. 315 00:25:53,930 --> 00:26:00,310 And so spending money now when you think you're getting a grant? 316 00:26:01,970 --> 00:26:02,330 No. 317 00:26:03,650 --> 00:26:07,170 You know, spending money when you have a grant, that's difficult. 318 00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:11,490 We can commit the money if you get the grant but you don't want to spend it prior to it. 319 00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:12,470 But you don't want to do it right here. 320 00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:16,050 So, I mean, we have a material that would just have to get it there. 321 00:26:16,050 --> 00:26:26,750 Okay, so now that we have all the information properly, just give us, you know, a week to, you know. 322 00:26:26,910 --> 00:26:30,710 You guys better try to figure something out if there is anything you can do. 323 00:26:30,910 --> 00:26:41,170 If we can, because we're on favorite, you know, it's a great project for a number of reasons including the fact that if something washes out, that's something I hadn't even thought about. 324 00:26:41,170 --> 00:26:44,570 so that you can drive down there at this point. 325 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:45,210 Oh, sure. 326 00:26:45,490 --> 00:26:46,150 It'd be interesting. 327 00:26:46,610 --> 00:26:48,150 Yeah, I was trying to think if there's any way 328 00:26:48,150 --> 00:26:49,050 to be tight. 329 00:26:49,450 --> 00:26:51,430 I mean, it would be tight through the ledges, 330 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:53,730 but you certainly could do it. 331 00:26:54,130 --> 00:26:54,590 That's a good way. 332 00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:55,570 Yeah, the ledges would want to go. 333 00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:57,030 What's my way? 334 00:26:57,570 --> 00:26:58,850 But we have a line. 335 00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:59,530 We have a line. 336 00:27:00,030 --> 00:27:01,310 Yeah, we have a line. 337 00:27:01,310 --> 00:27:05,930 We have a nice white drag that we pulled behind the Tucker 2000. 338 00:27:06,610 --> 00:27:08,790 So, cars are at 90 wide. 339 00:27:11,150 --> 00:27:19,910 Yeah, so that would you told us tonight is more information of what we had previously. 340 00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:29,870 So if we could do that in nine days, whatever it is, that would be really helpful. 341 00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:32,250 Cool. 342 00:27:32,670 --> 00:27:32,950 Thank you. 343 00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:35,590 Thank you. Thanks for the consideration. Well, thank you. 344 00:27:36,270 --> 00:27:38,230 And also, thanks for going and getting the grants. 345 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:39,030 Yeah. 346 00:27:40,270 --> 00:27:40,770 That's it. 347 00:27:41,150 --> 00:27:42,210 We've done it for ages. 348 00:27:42,430 --> 00:27:44,310 I mean, everyone will be able to walk into the trails. 349 00:27:44,550 --> 00:27:45,410 But there's bridges. 350 00:27:46,110 --> 00:27:49,290 There's, you know, a lot of things that we do a lot of cutting. 351 00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:51,070 We throw a lot of brush out of the way. 352 00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:54,270 And trying to keep snowmobiling alive 353 00:27:54,270 --> 00:27:56,570 in the southwest corner of New Hampshire. 354 00:27:57,550 --> 00:27:58,650 What can you do about the snow? 355 00:27:59,750 --> 00:28:00,870 I'm going to wear a last one. 356 00:28:04,110 --> 00:28:14,010 I mean we all miss a good win, but I guess there was a decent one here last year, right? 357 00:28:14,390 --> 00:28:14,910 It was gone. 358 00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:15,950 You weren't here? 359 00:28:16,330 --> 00:28:16,870 I don't know. 360 00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:17,430 Yeah, what? 361 00:28:18,010 --> 00:28:23,150 Well, I came back and I went to Pittsburgh and I went to boost that late and believe it or 362 00:28:23,150 --> 00:28:26,070 not, boost that late didn't happen as much as though I was sleeping down there. 363 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:29,710 But there was nothing for it. 364 00:28:33,930 --> 00:28:37,210 Yeah, I think I'll stay for the not-wing part of it, that's okay. 365 00:28:38,030 --> 00:28:40,350 You can stay for the entire thing, you're more than welcome. 366 00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:44,630 We like companies. 367 00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:53,950 Not with you. 368 00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:59,110 You were saying something about the conservation commission. 369 00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:59,270 Well, 370 00:29:02,130 --> 00:29:06,670 I attended Harrisville's Conservation Commission 371 00:29:06,670 --> 00:29:08,550 against the false demo I had made. 372 00:29:09,010 --> 00:29:12,670 And they basically spent like an hour 373 00:29:12,670 --> 00:29:15,490 after viewing what they've done over the last few years. 374 00:29:16,150 --> 00:29:19,210 And it's really a success over what they've done over that. 375 00:29:19,450 --> 00:29:21,830 They had the guy who actually sprays it. 376 00:29:21,970 --> 00:29:23,590 He runs a company that sprays it. 377 00:29:25,610 --> 00:29:27,150 You know, they hit it last year. 378 00:29:28,410 --> 00:29:35,010 He said about 90 to 95% of it was gone, and what they'll do is still hit it every year for a while. 379 00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:37,130 He had a plan and he'd do it for four years in a row. 380 00:29:37,270 --> 00:29:40,470 When it's set for a year, and then he hit it again. 381 00:29:41,230 --> 00:29:47,130 What happens is when it's almost dead and just comes up a little, you don't want to spray just a little. 382 00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:48,650 You want to come up a little more. 383 00:29:48,650 --> 00:29:55,690 So, he's in that last system and he uses a 2% glyphosate. 384 00:30:00,620 --> 00:30:28,620 You know, forming, like, and he's got some other things he uses, and he puts it out. It's an anti-drift agent. So what it does is it makes it heavy. It makes it heavy. There's some pleasant, you know, blow away, and the way it lands right out my leaves. And then there's another, I can't remember. I haven't read that someplace, but it's another thing that he puts in there. It's like a one-to-one to the right to save this other one, makes it, kills it off you more. 385 00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:33,340 or the other beach in this area, you know, very toxic. 386 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,620 Yeah, I was just reading about some of this stuff 387 00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:40,100 and mostly because of our yard. 388 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120 And a lot of what they're pushing now 389 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,940 is a 45% vinegar solution in salt water. 390 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,400 And what that does now, it won't kill the roots. 391 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,060 But what they say is if you apply it over multiple years, 392 00:30:57,060 --> 00:31:03,100 eventually it will just kill itself off but that's only good like if you've 393 00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:07,540 got gravel and then you've got grass and stuff from it that's really what 394 00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:11,580 this for you can't go out into your yard because you'll just end up killing 395 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:16,180 everything kind of like what I did with my globe torch two weeks ago and I got 396 00:31:16,180 --> 00:31:22,080 trouble with it, it's been in my vinegar, it's got to go as fast as to something 397 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,140 Oh really? 398 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,040 That's too chemical. 399 00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:24,600 Yeah. 400 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,060 And we have to say this is class three. 401 00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:30,560 So vinegar is actually more toxic than poison, say. 402 00:31:30,660 --> 00:31:30,860 Wow. 403 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,900 And these guys all really know what to talk about. 404 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,200 They say the big thing is quite the same. 405 00:31:38,380 --> 00:31:40,980 They truly got a bad rapid, you know, bad rap. 406 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,480 Things used to be round up. 407 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,460 People just used to start them in the proper amounts. 408 00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:51,080 And at the right time of year, you have to do it right after it blows. 409 00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:53,200 and before the first frost. 410 00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:57,360 So things of the blooms and bees will be, you know, 411 00:31:57,500 --> 00:31:59,180 they'll feed on that stuff. 412 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,840 But if you knew it at the right time, 413 00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:03,560 it's really, it's one of all the nutrients 414 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,680 are going back down into the roots 415 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,140 and that stuff has to be stuck down on the roots. 416 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:10,800 If you spray it any other time here, 417 00:32:11,380 --> 00:32:13,140 it doesn't get brought down on the roots. 418 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,620 And those roots will be like, 419 00:32:14,820 --> 00:32:17,660 I think they're 8, 10, 15 feet deep. 420 00:32:17,660 --> 00:32:25,120 So the issue that I've heard as a beekeeper, the issue that I've heard is that the 421 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:33,420 classified also stays in the soil. So something that grows later, that may have 422 00:32:33,420 --> 00:32:43,020 blossoms, has classified them. So that's something I'd like to talk about that 423 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:56,200 But that's also depending on who you speak with, you will get a bias from their particular 424 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:56,780 point of view. 425 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:06,940 So I heard that in a presentation, but it was a presentation about bees, and so I would 426 00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:11,360 like to know, you know, just how accurate that was. 427 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,220 Yeah, you need an unbiased figure. 428 00:33:13,460 --> 00:33:14,260 Right. These are great. 429 00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:16,960 As you're saying, you're using a couple of points, 430 00:33:17,060 --> 00:33:20,200 like, you know, hundreds of squirt yards. 431 00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:23,620 It's a very minimal amount of you're using. 432 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,460 We actually view, you know, 433 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,740 the transfer depot is down in Cheshire, 434 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,680 Harrisville, you know. 435 00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:31,340 Yeah. 436 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,060 So, they, that was a sponge that they hid last year. 437 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,080 And they took us on a tour of the walk-out, 438 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,840 and you can see all the dead stocks. 439 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:48,660 And then some of the native plants will start to come back there, which is that's one of the reasons why you don't really want to, you know, have this now because it takes overall. 440 00:33:49,060 --> 00:33:58,940 Chokes out the native plants and the native plants support, you know, the native insects, the native rabbits and, you know, so you kind of want to... 441 00:33:58,940 --> 00:34:15,380 That's why I want to know more about shelf life, you know, soil life in this case, to how much of that actually is then passed on to the next generation of plants that populate that area. 442 00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:20,860 I've got the contact information to do so that there's some of them who are in the industry 443 00:34:20,860 --> 00:34:26,840 of chemical stuff, and we're positive with the scientists, you know, and a couple of 444 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,680 of the guys over there. 445 00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:30,220 Yeah, if you're in the chemical industry, then you're going to take this as a great thing. 446 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,580 If you're in the bee industry, you don't think it's a terrible thing. 447 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:42,420 So maybe what we need to do is talk to an entomologist or a biologist at the state level to 448 00:34:42,420 --> 00:34:48,890 to find out what the, is there a middle ground there 449 00:34:48,890 --> 00:34:50,490 or is one side correct? 450 00:34:50,830 --> 00:34:50,970 Right. 451 00:34:51,530 --> 00:34:53,990 Almost have some of the D.O.T. calls, actually, 452 00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:54,950 right in legislation. 453 00:34:55,390 --> 00:34:57,850 And the D.O.T. you're like, I'll stay right there. 454 00:34:57,950 --> 00:35:00,570 You want the environment to be environment outside of me also. 455 00:35:01,150 --> 00:35:03,130 I mean, that should be there, but again, 456 00:35:03,330 --> 00:35:05,110 for sure we have to, a lot of knowledge, yeah. 457 00:35:05,350 --> 00:35:05,490 Yeah. 458 00:35:06,130 --> 00:35:06,850 Any questions? 459 00:35:07,090 --> 00:35:07,930 I can pump it up. 460 00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:10,050 I mean, and you have to cooperate extensively. 461 00:35:10,510 --> 00:35:10,910 Absolutely. 462 00:35:10,910 --> 00:35:17,550 And that would be the end of my offstate, his car on my offstate. 463 00:35:17,850 --> 00:35:19,810 Yeah, cars would be good, cars would be something else here. 464 00:35:19,810 --> 00:35:22,270 He'd be somebody you might be able to get information from. 465 00:35:23,410 --> 00:35:26,430 Yeah, cars would really grow on the extension agent also. 466 00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:28,810 Yeah, that's what he worked on. 467 00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:29,350 Yeah, that's what he worked on. 468 00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:30,170 That's what he worked on. 469 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:32,570 Yeah, he has come to do the guys over at Brisbane. 470 00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:33,510 He has a live in town. 471 00:35:33,610 --> 00:35:37,430 Actually, visit an offstate, visit our car in the conservation commission. 472 00:35:38,210 --> 00:35:43,990 The guy who does the spring and one of the guys actually chair of the committee came 473 00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:45,770 to talk to Perry and everybody. 474 00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:55,380 Did you ever speak to the, yes, to the slot board chair and talk to the slot board? 475 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,440 But these guys were all, you know, I actually do want to talk to them. 476 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:07,040 I think we should because there was a, the one conversation that I had with him when Southwest 477 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,200 West had that gathering of select board chairs. 478 00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:13,220 Yeah, wouldn't let you go. 479 00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:23,140 He mentioned that he was not as positive about that. 480 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:24,980 And I don't know why. 481 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,160 And he said it's a long story. 482 00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:31,180 And it may not be the fact that he wasn't positive. 483 00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:32,360 Maybe some people weren't. 484 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,480 I don't know where he was going with that. 485 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,400 I did, I was saying the same thing with some people. 486 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:42,320 Thank you. 487 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,060 One of the slow-mo wasn't, but I didn't really get a chance 488 00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:45,660 to talk to 489 00:36:49,310 --> 00:36:49,350 them. 490 00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:49,570 All right. 491 00:36:49,850 --> 00:36:51,350 I think we should keep it open. 492 00:36:51,790 --> 00:36:55,850 I mean, we could establish communication between them 493 00:36:55,850 --> 00:36:57,630 and do some other research on our own. 494 00:36:57,970 --> 00:37:02,680 Well, when you drive through 163, 495 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,700 where I'm sure the state would not necessarily 496 00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:09,120 want to spring at this point, but they also 497 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,820 and when you moat that weed, it ends up everywhere, you know, times ten. 498 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:22,640 Dave's been doing all this mowing now, so he doesn't moat it out of it, so you can see where it is. 499 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,520 You're right on the south of Lillard, you know, my hair is probably going to expand over. 500 00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:31,520 Interesting. 501 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,280 Alright, thanks. You're no but not we came, so thanks. 502 00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:49,340 Oh, excuse me one second, I'd like to add one thing to all the business and it's basically 503 00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:58,740 to bring people to our website, so if I can just go to our website, I self here. 504 00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:15,320 Well, you're looking, John, one of the things we apologize about is he's thinking the recycling 505 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:23,880 would be a good place to do an experiment perhaps because there are already test wells there and they test those wells every year. 506 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:29,620 So that could make this information as to, is this stuff getting into the aqua version? 507 00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:30,600 Yup. 508 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:38,080 Plus, you have that stuff with the recycling center car, 509 00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:50,440 I'm looking at what's looking at how the main goal is to use as little as a year as 510 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:56,580 possible, do it in properly at the right time of year, it's pretty minimal stuff you have 511 00:38:56,580 --> 00:38:57,140 to use. 512 00:38:58,780 --> 00:39:05,080 I'm looking at the manifest today, I saw Dave Mezzarov's, you know, they all question 513 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,480 remind me that we should be getting the results of the re-evaluation process. 514 00:39:10,060 --> 00:39:11,460 He's been working on that. 515 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:19,860 Yeah, so what I would like to do is just once again, in the minutes and on this video, 516 00:39:21,380 --> 00:39:31,320 remind people that on our town website, WestMalandNH.gov, on the very front page, 517 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,780 Scroll down and it says 2026 and H. Re-evaluation. 518 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,720 As part of the property re-evaluation process, 519 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,100 randomly selected properties may be visited 520 00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:43,940 by both the Towns' assessing contractor 521 00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:46,480 and representative from the New Hampshire Department 522 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,280 of Revenue Administration, DRA, 523 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,320 as part of the review and verification process. 524 00:39:51,980 --> 00:39:54,060 Currently, the Towns' overall assessed values 525 00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:57,320 are estimated to be approximately 60% of market value. 526 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,240 Residents should expect assessed value that excess, 527 00:40:01,780 --> 00:40:07,320 and you start that out over again, residents should expect assessed property values 528 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,740 to increase as part of the re-evaluation process. 529 00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:17,800 However, the tax rate is expected to decrease accordingly to reflect the updated assessments. 530 00:40:18,620 --> 00:40:25,600 Residents should not estimate future tax bills by applying the current 2025 tax rate 531 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,720 to new assessed values. 532 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:28,820 Repeat. 533 00:40:29,620 --> 00:40:34,240 Residents should not estimate future tax bills 534 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:37,100 by applying the current 2025 tax rate 535 00:40:37,420 --> 00:40:38,900 to new assessed values. 536 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,040 As a tax rate would be recalculated 537 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,120 following completion of the evaluation. 538 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:46,320 If you have more questions about that, 539 00:40:46,580 --> 00:40:49,340 there's a box right below it, find out more 540 00:40:49,340 --> 00:40:54,780 that will take you to a frequently asked questions page 541 00:40:54,780 --> 00:40:58,640 where you can go ahead and read more about the re-evaluation process. 542 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,820 The real key again is do not try to calculate your own tax rate. 543 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,940 The tax rate will not be determined until November by DRA. 544 00:41:10,940 --> 00:41:14,920 So when you re-evaluation, if your property went up, 545 00:41:15,380 --> 00:41:19,520 X number of dollars, it does not necessarily, 546 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,000 you cannot currently determine your new tax rate. 547 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,320 40% increase in your property value doesn't mean a 40% increase in your tax. 548 00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:30,480 Absolutely not. 549 00:41:31,060 --> 00:41:41,040 So because of the way things events in COVID, there will be a good chance that your property's more valuable today than it was two years ago. 550 00:41:43,180 --> 00:41:46,800 But do not panic at that point. 551 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,520 We will not have the tax rate until November. 552 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:53,000 And when we have that, we will share it. 553 00:41:56,370 --> 00:41:57,370 That's all I got. 554 00:41:57,630 --> 00:41:59,250 That's a good public service now. 555 00:41:59,510 --> 00:42:03,510 But I figured that was something that was probably going to take some people off today. 556 00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:06,730 So prepare for phone calls, Julie. 557 00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:14,610 Well, that's what I'm trying to get rid of, is the fact that not everybody knows this 558 00:42:14,610 --> 00:42:18,250 and there's no really good way except the West Mallander to get it out. 559 00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:22,690 I believe we've spoken about this now probably four times, at least. 560 00:42:22,690 --> 00:42:29,790 We spoke about it at town meeting. We've spoken about it a bunch of committee meetings. We've spoken about it with a lot of board meetings. 561 00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:33,350 This is the last time before this is going to continue. 562 00:42:33,350 --> 00:42:37,970 I need me to make some recordings like, no, you cannot build a long class. 563 00:42:37,970 --> 00:42:43,290 It's your own recording and why, and no, your tax rate will not go up to 40% and why. 564 00:42:43,830 --> 00:42:45,210 There you go. Two good ones. 565 00:42:45,450 --> 00:42:46,450 Which one would you like? 566 00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:50,630 Okay, 567 00:42:52,850 --> 00:42:59,170 thank you. I just wanted to remind folks that that's happening and you really cannot 568 00:43:00,970 --> 00:43:02,910 determine your tax rate at this point. 569 00:43:05,740 --> 00:43:12,360 All right, so we got a bunch of signing to do. This limited power of attorney, this is so 570 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,480 So they can do the closing for these properties that they are auctioned that day. 571 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,320 So that just needs to get assigned. 572 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:40,480 There we have a deed waiver and a payment plan. 573 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,660 I made two copies of the payment plan so that an original can also be given to the person that's going to. 574 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,440 That's just an idea. 575 00:44:03,170 --> 00:44:09,730 We hope we've made plans with all the people that are having an issue with getting taxes paid. 576 00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:12,910 They don't have to do any of these places. 577 00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:16,290 It's the same property. 578 00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:18,330 That's a waiver and these are paid for. 579 00:44:18,830 --> 00:44:21,230 For the person in original for us. 580 00:44:21,550 --> 00:44:22,750 It has 581 00:44:32,580 --> 00:44:34,800 taken a lot of effort. 582 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,880 Those made many calls. 583 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,040 Most has made many calls. 584 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:38,780 There have been letters. 585 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,480 Finally, we're getting to the point of everybody has a plan. 586 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,940 Because Deeding was supposed to happen next week. 587 00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:49,980 Okay, so we don't want their places, we want them to have them. 588 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:40,260 So ten to fourteen days ago, we got a letter, the town got a letter from a Polish and made 589 00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:45,120 up of the New Hampshire Campaign for Voting Rights, the League of Women Voters, New Hampshire, 590 00:46:45,820 --> 00:46:48,400 and Open Democracy, New Hampshire. 591 00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:56,820 And what this organization has done if they've gone out and reviewed all the town web 592 00:46:56,820 --> 00:47:00,780 pages and what they have as far as voting information. 593 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,900 And they looked at several different areas. 594 00:47:06,580 --> 00:47:12,360 and then, better yet, they just didn't point out what the problem was, they actually gave 595 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:21,500 us a solution, which is unusual and greatly appreciated, and it covers how to register 596 00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:27,220 to vote, how to vote elections, and then information on election officials in the town. 597 00:47:28,260 --> 00:47:34,560 And so the rest of this document, I think it's four pages, I wrote them back and said, can 598 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:41,160 you send me an electronic copy of it. And with that electronic copy, I produced this document 599 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:49,740 that I gave you all and tailored it for our town. And I think it's pretty good. I mean, 600 00:47:50,060 --> 00:47:56,420 there's nothing dramatic in here. And I think what's really helpful is that they've actually 601 00:47:56,420 --> 00:48:03,620 included several state web pages that people have further information. And so really all 602 00:48:03,620 --> 00:48:10,260 have to do is click on the link and it'll take you to a state site that tells you a bunch of 603 00:48:10,260 --> 00:48:15,060 stuff of those reminds me. I have a link on there that goes right to the state site. 604 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:23,220 Yeah well I think the beauty of this is they take each phase of it and how to register how to vote 605 00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:27,840 when the elections are and that's where it thinks. So I think it simplifies it quite frankly. 606 00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:32,460 And I went to each one of these sites just to make sure they were still working links. 607 00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:39,720 So, they do. And, quite frankly, I had Ellis look at it today and I deleted a couple of things. 608 00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:52,040 And so, I don't think it changed anything here. But the question I had, I've already talked 609 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:59,100 to Nancy Zeller and asked her to get me a copy or when their next meetings are because 610 00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:05,900 those should be posted. So she's working on that. And I talked to her about that last week. 611 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:11,420 And then really the only thing I have left is on the back page. And what they recommend 612 00:49:11,420 --> 00:49:17,640 and you can see on the last page, I've got Ellis's contact information in here as well 613 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:23,180 as the State Secretary for New Hampshire and the Attorney General's Office. But they also 614 00:49:23,180 --> 00:49:28,280 recommend that the supervisors of the checklist be there, their phone numbers and their emails 615 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:35,200 and what concerns me and also the moderator. I'm not sure that we should do that and my 616 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:41,780 recommendation would be that we just under the supervisors of the checklist, we just put 617 00:49:41,780 --> 00:49:47,740 the town administrator there and if someone's got a very specific question then you can send 618 00:49:47,740 --> 00:49:51,920 and then towards the supervisors of the checklist. 619 00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:53,620 I really should just be out of lessons 620 00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:55,960 because I don't, only thing I do for elections 621 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,060 is get ballot books. 622 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,420 Okay, well, we can do that. 623 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,540 I have a good out of list. 624 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:00,140 Okay. 625 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,840 And what about the moderator? 626 00:50:05,340 --> 00:50:07,000 He has nothing to do with that either. 627 00:50:07,220 --> 00:50:13,060 Well, he does, but I think Ellis would probably be the, 628 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:13,740 okay. 629 00:50:13,820 --> 00:50:15,700 I think he's a kind of the point person for that. 630 00:50:16,620 --> 00:50:23,580 All right. Well, I will make it so. Okay. And so this is fine and dandy. And that 631 00:50:23,580 --> 00:50:28,420 leads me to another question. But I think the answer is in the emails because I 632 00:50:28,420 --> 00:50:31,880 noticed an email in there that where we got an update from the company that's 633 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:39,640 doing our web page. I didn't understand all of it. But my idea is when I get this 634 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:44,240 done, I send it off work. I guess you send it off to them because you're the only 635 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:47,300 that has access. You get that done. I can put on our current website. 636 00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:51,540 Okay. There will just be my graded dance part of it. 637 00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:55,500 Awesome email map from them is that they're moving to another phase. 638 00:50:55,980 --> 00:51:01,040 Yeah, that's what I took from it. Yeah. And I got into the minutiae which was the wrong thing 639 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,300 because they didn't really understand the minutiae but yeah I understood they were moving on. 640 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,880 So that's what I'll do. I'll make the I'll make the changes and then I'll just send them to you 641 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:17,620 you can you can put them on the webpage. And then I didn't read through the whole thing 642 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:22,600 most because I didn't understand it. But do we have a date when they can get a good hot? 643 00:51:23,740 --> 00:51:24,360 Not yet. 644 00:51:26,830 --> 00:51:32,350 End of year. Yeah. I would say wait here. Okay. 645 00:51:34,070 --> 00:51:39,090 Some of that was our bad in the beginning of the year because we were too busy to work with us. 646 00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:44,610 Well, I mean, that's okay, I mean, we're not going anywhere, as long as we don't do this. 647 00:51:44,610 --> 00:51:49,850 But, I mean, if I get this on the website, it'll be more useful now than if I get it to them, and it's after the fact. 648 00:51:51,590 --> 00:51:57,490 Yeah, so, and the thing that I like about this is the fact this is not political. 649 00:51:57,890 --> 00:52:03,610 Oh, absolutely, that was the very first thing I checked, make sure this didn't come from the left or the right. 650 00:52:03,610 --> 00:52:08,910 Yeah, it's simply here's how you do stuff. It's kind of the way we used to get news 651 00:52:09,370 --> 00:52:13,210 Let me just tell us what's happening and this wouldn't quite typically 652 00:52:16,190 --> 00:52:22,190 So I do remember watching the news and going okay 653 00:52:23,490 --> 00:52:24,410 But anyway 654 00:52:26,030 --> 00:52:27,830 Yeah, I remember Walter 655 00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:30,390 All right, well, that's all I have 656 00:52:33,610 --> 00:52:41,240 good idea, because they made it more complicated and then tried to make it less complicated. 657 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,100 Stay tuned and they'll do it some more, because that's all they do. 658 00:52:45,340 --> 00:52:46,000 That's what they do. 659 00:52:46,180 --> 00:52:49,180 Ellis showed me the book that they got last year that's like this stick. 660 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:49,740 Yeah. 661 00:52:50,020 --> 00:52:53,560 And then the book that there's no more trainings, my new book. 662 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:53,660 Right. 663 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,320 They got this year, this stick. 664 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,640 What went away? 665 00:52:57,460 --> 00:52:57,600 Right. 666 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:05,180 But it seems to me there should be more to it because as has been pointed out to me by 667 00:53:05,180 --> 00:53:11,580 some females that I know is actually for a lot of folks makes it harder if they don't 668 00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:18,720 walk around with their birth certificate, their change, their legal paperwork for changing 669 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,820 their name out of get married or after they get divorced. 670 00:53:21,820 --> 00:53:30,100 Of course, you know, there's just all kinds of things that, so, um, yeah, anyway, I'm not going to be doing that. 671 00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:37,920 Okay, here's the proof of citizenship, but if you don't have it, you can sign up for the affidavit. 672 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,940 Those things are crazy. 673 00:53:40,780 --> 00:53:41,360 The affidavit? 674 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,920 I'm on my way. 675 00:53:43,420 --> 00:53:48,600 But I mean, it's, yeah, I mean, you know, you're supposed to have to sign the affidavit, 676 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,140 and then get your stuff. 677 00:53:51,220 --> 00:53:53,560 So then they spend time chasing people around. 678 00:53:54,820 --> 00:53:58,040 And now it used to be like in my dad's age, 679 00:53:58,980 --> 00:54:01,760 he proved he gave what he needed to do, registered 680 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,140 to vote, and went to the polls. 681 00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:06,400 Now they're trying to hold their raise hand 682 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,080 and let them do however they need to do. 683 00:54:08,220 --> 00:54:10,200 It's just at some point in time, 684 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,540 people have to take responsibility and get what they need. 685 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,620 If you get a passport, that works for pretty much everything. 686 00:54:15,860 --> 00:54:16,660 So it's like. 687 00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:20,780 But passports are expensive now, and it takes a while. 688 00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:25,460 I mean, if you try to get a passports now, you probably wouldn't have it for the September 689 00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:26,040 election. 690 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:26,880 You might not know. 691 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:27,180 Yeah. 692 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,760 But that takes a little plan. 693 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,100 Right. 694 00:54:29,420 --> 00:54:29,520 Yeah. 695 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:32,660 And again, no. 696 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,080 I'm not going to say it. 697 00:54:35,460 --> 00:54:35,740 Yeah. 698 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,240 I'm not going to say we're solving a problem that doesn't exist. 699 00:54:38,580 --> 00:54:39,920 So, all right. 700 00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:41,920 Let's, uh, would we field sign? 701 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:42,740 Yeah, don't say that. 702 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,040 I've been to Central and South American Africa, really good. 703 00:54:50,180 --> 00:54:58,800 The sign was made by Justin Treeby, and they would like permission to have it home at 704 00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,500 Woodwood Field. 705 00:55:00,060 --> 00:55:06,820 My guess is, probably, on the shed, you see, so there's not a lot of places to hang things. 706 00:55:07,460 --> 00:55:08,960 Has that sign been hung up? 707 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,980 Yeah, that's got to get up there too. 708 00:55:10,980 --> 00:55:17,240 So he needs to get hung up and not lost because I have to ask for an alarm and I'm going to cry. 709 00:55:17,820 --> 00:55:19,740 But there's a possible way to do so. 710 00:55:19,940 --> 00:55:20,120 Yes. 711 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,560 We actually have money on it, you know? 712 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,720 There's an office for it. 713 00:55:27,780 --> 00:55:29,200 So we're all picking dates. 714 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,460 Anyways, they wanted this to be a truth to be able to hang over there at the field. 715 00:55:37,060 --> 00:55:46,980 I think it's a very nice, all right. Great. All right, so you guys all agree. Thank 716 00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:50,320 Mr. Frievy. He is very talented. 717 00:55:53,390 --> 00:55:54,370 Yeah, that's beautiful. 718 00:55:58,410 --> 00:56:00,690 So, okay, so then the 719 00:56:00,690 --> 00:56:06,190 deeded property auctions is on the 8th and Jody informed me today. She's already 720 00:56:06,190 --> 00:56:11,530 got a squirt away so we all three of us can be there without you know legally. Well you can 721 00:56:11,530 --> 00:56:19,270 anyways because you can attend things right if you happen to speak yeah and how many of us 722 00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:27,990 are not going to speak John I am Mark I am not going to speak any of these though. I have a lot to 723 00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:35,890 talk about there but there is a lot of interest in the properties they've been a great job advertising 724 00:56:36,190 --> 00:56:37,590 and they're going to do it right in here. 725 00:56:38,050 --> 00:56:38,870 Yeah, okay. 726 00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:41,270 We'll see what goes on. 727 00:56:41,710 --> 00:56:47,480 But yeah, it should be kind of an interesting thing. 728 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:54,940 If I had explained more times, then I care to count how you cannot build on a classic. 729 00:56:54,940 --> 00:56:56,120 You cannot build on a classic. 730 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:56,280 You cannot build on a classic. 731 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,260 We'll have five inferior road fronts. 732 00:57:01,220 --> 00:57:03,720 And you still can't build on a classic. 733 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,620 And no, you still can't. 734 00:57:05,620 --> 00:57:09,140 because people are convinced that the state made a change and now I can. 735 00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:15,680 That's not entirely true so you still, we saw ordinances that you can't. 736 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,260 Right, the town is the oldest one. 737 00:57:18,860 --> 00:57:27,920 Well, the town has an ordinance the one that is most restrictive is the one that's enforced. 738 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:33,320 So if the state is more restrictive than we are, the state rules. 739 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:40,280 If we're more restrictive than the state is, which in this case we are, our ordinances will. 740 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:50,040 Which I believe that the state legislator, they want to take priority over anything we do down here. 741 00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:54,000 But from what I've read, not sure that's going to happen. 742 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:06,520 And then last but not least, as we mentioned earlier, our next meeting is now going to be 743 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:16,540 on the 13th of August at 10 a.m. right here. And that's due to vacation. So scheduling 744 00:58:16,540 --> 00:58:21,220 kind of issues. I was going to suggest we just didn't have a second one, but now you've 745 00:58:21,220 --> 00:58:21,980 me as half one. 746 00:58:24,380 --> 00:58:26,220 That's okay. You're welcome. 747 00:58:29,580 --> 00:58:31,320 That's okay. Bill, you got anything else? 748 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:37,880 No. Negative. I had one ball thing that we should acknowledge is the fact that Ed Johnson 749 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:47,380 did pass away last week and he was the pirate deputy and he was pirate warden for many years 750 00:58:47,380 --> 00:58:55,020 and a really nice guy, I think it was a lot of it. 751 00:58:59,740 --> 00:59:01,100 That's young in Westmoreland. 752 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:06,880 All right. 753 00:59:07,180 --> 00:59:08,600 Well, we didn't know it was a normal building. 754 00:59:08,780 --> 00:59:10,700 It was putting up all the science for me still. 755 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:11,800 Really? 756 00:59:12,060 --> 00:59:12,340 It was nice. 757 00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:14,980 Yeah, it's still out there. 758 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:16,500 Oh, that's awesome. 759 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:17,600 I didn't even know that piece. 760 00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:19,520 So that's good to know. 761 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:27,280 Yeah, he put up the size, I'm not going to tell you here, he's always nice to stop him 762 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,980 versus him when I went to clear trails up there. 763 00:59:31,380 --> 00:59:35,970 Well, I reckon he used it a little bit, Mark. 764 00:59:37,630 --> 00:59:38,430 You're going to stay. 765 00:59:38,890 --> 00:59:42,130 Ellen donated a quilt once, and we had a radar run. 766 00:59:42,510 --> 00:59:44,050 And she had smoothed it as always. 767 00:59:44,410 --> 00:59:45,010 Oh, that's awesome. 768 00:59:45,130 --> 00:59:46,410 She said it was a wrap. 769 00:59:46,990 --> 00:59:48,510 And I think he got like $400. 770 00:59:53,210 --> 00:59:59,090 All right. I'd like to make motion that we adjourn. All in favor? 771 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:00,640 Okay. 772 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,300 No, did you? 773 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,700 Here's the, let's see, so you're down here by the church, right?