1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:08,160 do not see her here. Um, and it looks like we have to wait for Allan to get 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:16,480 reconnected. Um, but in the meantime, we could um 3 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:23,800 uh we've got meeting minutes um that we could uh vote on um if anybody has any 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,800 questions or thoughts on that. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,880 » I'm okay with them. 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Michael >> the meeting minutes. Are are you okay 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,719 with the meeting minutes? >> Yes. 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,600 » Okay. >> And thank you, Tom. 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:45,520 » All right. Um Jeff. >> Yeah, looks they look fine to me. 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,320 » Okay. >> Hi. 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,680 » Hey, Alan. You got something blocking your camera part way. 12 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:57,600 » Yeah, I know. It's kind of weird, isn't it? 13 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:02,559 » That's weird. Can you hear us? Yeah, I can hear you. 14 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:06,760 » Okay. You you sound very faint. >> Well, I'll try and take out my 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:14,640 » can't hear you. >> Uh I can Can you hear me now? 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,600 » Now I can hear you. Yeah. >> Okay. 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:20,320 » Yeah. Half >> we just we we only see half your face. 18 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:25,040 » Can you see your screen on the Allan? You're your part your half of your 19 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:30,159 There you go. No, half of you is blocked. 20 00:01:27,439 --> 00:01:35,520 weird. >> Could it be the little toggle at the top 21 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:39,439 of your if you're using a laptop? Maybe. >> Could be. 22 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:43,920 » Oh, yeah. >> There you go. 23 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:47,280 » There we go. That looks better. >> All right. So, do I have a vote on the 24 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,880 minutes? >> I 25 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:50,560 » I >> I 26 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,840 » a second. >> I need a I need a I need a motion and a 27 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,360 second. >> I'll second it. 28 00:01:56,079 --> 00:02:01,840 All right, we'll just take that as a vote. All in favor? I 29 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:06,040 » I Wait, so who moved? >> Buzzy. 30 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:06,040 » Buzzy moved. 31 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:17,360 » Okay, that was easy. Um, next item, 32 00:02:14,239 --> 00:02:24,319 HYM's request for support of assisted living facility project at Reges. Um, 33 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:30,480 so that's um I'm not sure we're ready to 34 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:36,400 vote on that yet to be honest, but we certainly should be discussing it. Um, 35 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:45,040 uh, let me do a quick summary of where things are. Uh, HYM has proposed 36 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:51,200 um, Alan, how many units is it total? >> 15 total, 32 memory cache. 37 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:55,760 » How many? 215 total. >> Yeah. 38 00:02:52,400 --> 00:03:01,200 » Yeah. Um so this will be at the Regis across the street on Welssley Street 39 00:02:57,519 --> 00:03:06,319 from Regis. Um uh several of us has been have been involved with HYM looking at 40 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:13,760 this. Um they have presented to the planning board several times. Um 41 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:19,760 uh there I would say the planning board activity on this has been really more 42 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:25,519 focused on the site and the architecture than than the project or its impact. 43 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:30,480 It's it's kind of weird. They don't seem to be they really want to it's almost 44 00:03:28,239 --> 00:03:36,000 like they want to be hands off on it um and just just address it from a 45 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:40,239 technical standpoint. this the issue with this project is it will require a 46 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:46,000 twothirds vote to change the zoning to allow um what what Regis wants to do. 47 00:03:44,012 --> 00:03:52,799 [snorts] Um my take on that is that if we had to 48 00:03:48,239 --> 00:03:58,480 vote today it would fail miserably. Um uh only because people don't understand 49 00:03:54,400 --> 00:04:04,959 it. Uh and the the nimi faction will be uh very viciferous. Um and partly 50 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:11,120 because uh although HYM I think has been out there pretty well. I don't think 51 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:14,879 Regis has made any effort to uh to be uh present in the town on this stuff. And 52 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,560 then the the other factor >> isn't there also a history with that 53 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:23,280 parcel of land with respect to >> Yes. Yes. About 10 or 15 years ago, 54 00:04:20,479 --> 00:04:29,040 Regis tried to do a a project similar to Lasal over in 55 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:36,240 Newton and that that went down in flames, but it was not 56 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:43,919 it was illconceived, ill-managed, and uh just just badly handled. Um the um the 57 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:48,639 the the people at Regis at the time, the the the management were didn't try to 58 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:56,160 work with the town at all. They just tried to slam it through and it it ended 59 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:58,400 up crashing and burning. Um this one is, you know, I think they learned from that 60 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:04,240 and they're trying to do a little bit better, but right now I think um I don't 61 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:09,280 think Regis itself has made much effort to interact with the town very much. Um, 62 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:17,160 and this I think this may be a may be an issue. I think also that there's kind of 63 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,160 a uh 64 00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:23,280 ingenuous behavior uh on the planning board and select board thinking that 65 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:28,960 okay, we just if we don't vote this in, nothing will happen. But my my take on 66 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:34,400 it is that Regis needs the money and if they uh if the HYM project fails, 67 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:39,840 they'll they'll flip to their other the the other biders they had on the on the 68 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:47,840 property which are were number 40B developers. Technically, uh they could 69 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:52,720 and uh you guys at the RHSO can um correct me if I'm wrong on this, but 70 00:05:49,680 --> 00:06:00,320 it's a 30 plus acre site. um they could divvy that up and bring in maybe say 71 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:08,479 three different um 40B developers and drop up to 275 units on each each parcel 72 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:16,160 uh giving us 6 7 800 units potentially. Um now that would be a a massive fight 73 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:24,160 of course but uh it would be a far uh far crappier decision u than what hm 74 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:30,639 is presenting. So and so this is this is a place where Weston is finds itself all 75 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:36,240 the time which is having to accept the least worst decision and potentially 76 00:06:33,919 --> 00:06:41,280 usually or at least in the past usually going for the worst worst decision. Um 77 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:46,160 and we've done this a number of times and and screwed ourselves which is why 78 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:50,960 we have that project on route 20 route 30 and so forth right now because of 79 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:58,240 because of our um the way we've handled things. So, so we have to we 80 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:01,440 the trust could u 81 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:06,479 propose to the select board and the planning board a letter of support for 82 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:11,120 some particular solution here. Um I think there's a few more things that we 83 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:16,319 need to learn. Um Allan and I are potentially talking to Regis tomorrow uh 84 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:22,720 to understand really where where they can play in this. Um, and there's still 85 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:27,280 discussions with HYM about the options. Um, one of the things we've been pushing 86 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:33,280 with HYM is they're proposing 10% affordable on the on the project. Um, 87 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:39,919 that does not put it on the SHI doesn't doesn't really help us very much at all. 88 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:47,199 and um wearing my elderly housing committee hat. Um my take on mixing 89 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:52,560 uh affordable a small amount of affordable units into a project like 90 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:56,800 that is I don't think it's a I don't think it's a recipe for success because 91 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:01,199 you're dealing with uh you would be mixing people paying 20 2500 a month for 92 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:05,840 rent with people who are paying somewhere between 12 and $15,000 a month 93 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:11,520 for rent. And that just creates all kinds of interesting potential 94 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:18,000 conflicts. Um what we were thinking is if if we could take a and and HM just 95 00:08:14,879 --> 00:08:22,560 did this in Brooklyn. They they traded the affordability component for a cash 96 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:29,039 payment which allowed Brookline to to finish an another affordable project. So 97 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:36,800 they gave Brooklyn $6 million. um and Brooklyn approved the a project 98 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:42,880 which was um about 50 about 60% the size of what they're proposing in Weston. So 99 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:46,320 so there's a precedent there. Um what we would like what we were talking about 100 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:50,959 was potentially getting money from them to build out the rest of Marian Village 101 00:08:48,640 --> 00:09:00,240 which we could do because it's been that's a by right zoning under 3A. Um, 102 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:04,080 so this is all in in flux right now. Um, the planning board and the select board 103 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:07,839 seem to be just staying hands off. So I think it has to 104 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:13,920 do whatever happens here is going to be based on what HYM ends up presenting. 105 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:18,399 Um, and it and how it gets sold. So who sells it to the town? I don't know. That 106 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:22,959 that's a a big question. So that's kind of where we stand right now. So Jeff, 107 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:29,360 did you have a question? Yeah, comment and question. Uh, one, I find your your 108 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:35,440 observation about uh past decisions the town has made that have resulted in less 109 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:39,680 than desirable um development uh developments occurring is is a is an 110 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:45,360 important one and I hope you're offering that observation to more than just this 111 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:49,680 August assembly. Um, I think new members of the select board 112 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:56,160 need to hear that as do s several people involved with the JST, but that's just 113 00:09:51,519 --> 00:10:03,680 my own personal opinion. Um, but uh my question has to do I I'm intrigued HYM's 114 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:07,920 uh cash payment to the town of Brooklyn >> here. Uh they'd be offering up if 115 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:11,839 there's 215 total units, they'd be offering what 21 or 22 affordable units 116 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:16,399 if it's >> um yeah 10%. That's what they're they 117 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:20,000 they won't go higher than 10%. The planning board is pushing them to go 118 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:24,959 to 15 um%. 119 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:30,480 » But they won't do that. >> Yeah, they can't make it work. 120 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:34,640 » Is the 10% a requirement under Weston zoning? Is that a 121 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:38,640 » Okay. No, it's a it's a negotiation. >> It's a negotiation. Thank you. 122 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:46,000 » So, my other my my real question here, Tom, is 21 units at HYM is offering if 123 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:51,279 » No, they're really only offering 18. >> They're offering 18. 124 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:57,200 » The 32 memory care units don't count. >> Okay, that that's important. Okay, so 125 00:10:52,800 --> 00:11:02,000 there are 18 units. That's helpful. Uh, how many units if we let's say they did 126 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:08,399 offer a cash payment like Brooklyn Brook Brooklyn received, how many units could 127 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:10,800 we possibly develop at Marian Village? >> 38. 128 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:17,040 » 38. >> That's the maximum under zoning. um that 129 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:22,959 I don't think you know if you use if you use a model of like 500k per unit um you 130 00:11:20,959 --> 00:11:30,720 know that's I don't you know that would be uh about 19,000 $19 million we would 131 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:38,800 need to get 38 units um now I doubt that they'll go that high um but um I mean 132 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:43,600 you could if if you if you do a linear comparison to Brooklyn you know they I 133 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:48,800 could see them giving giving us 10 or 12 million. Um, we don't have to build full 134 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:52,800 38 units either at Mariam Village. Um, or we could find other ways to do it. I 135 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:58,880 mean, there's um there's nothing stopping us or stopping some entity, I 136 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:07,279 should say, from building that uh and using financing to to to complete the 137 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:08,639 the buildout potentially. So, um, you do this. 138 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:14,800 » I believe that's what they did originally with Marian Village. 139 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:18,399 Um I think there was I think there was a mortgage there originally. 140 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:20,800 » Yeah, there's still still a mortgage. Yeah. Okay. 141 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,880 » It's not it's a small one. >> Small but 142 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:28,160 there was a um >> Yeah. And it's the same thing we did 143 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:32,240 with building D at Brook School. Yeah. We we it was all it was all 144 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:36,399 » right. I just wanted to make sure I understood. 145 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:45,360 » Yeah. Yeah. So right now HYM is talking about uh 300,000 for 15% 146 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:51,120 of the 180 you know some units uh you know minus the memory care and that 147 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:55,120 300,000 is about 8.5 million or something like that but it doesn't you 148 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:58,560 know I think Tom's probably understands what it costs to build these units and 149 00:12:56,959 --> 00:13:06,160 300,000 wouldn't build >> well it cost 400,000 just to build 150 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:09,600 or in you create new units at at the Brook School. 151 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:14,079 » Uh 500, just slightly more than >> 500 now. Wow. It was 152 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,240 » Yeah, we years ago, right? Okay. 153 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:20,800 » Yeah. We ended up >> That's within an an existing building. 154 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:23,440 » That's in an existing building. Yeah. >> I mean, there's there's pluses and 155 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,920 minuses to that. You know, it's sometimes easier to build new. Um but 156 00:13:26,079 --> 00:13:32,800 but I would say 500's a reasonable number. 157 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:38,639 » So, can I just ask for a couple points of clarification? So they're proposing 158 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:43,279 um 10% so 21 but only 18 of those would be on the SHI but really it's a 21 in 159 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:47,680 total because the three would be the memory care like they would still 160 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:49,440 propose to provide memory no >> take the memory care out. 161 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,920 » Yeah. >> Yeah. The memory care apparently 162 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:58,639 according to their analysis and I think some other people is it it can't be 163 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:02,000 counted in SHI >> but would they still provide it 164 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:06,800 regardless of it being counted? Would they still be restricted at a certain 165 00:14:03,839 --> 00:14:13,440 income regardless of like put SHI aside, are they still proposing to offer some 166 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:16,720 affordability? Okay, so 21 affordable >> just 21 affordable as the is that the 167 00:14:16,079 --> 00:14:25,120 Okay. >> Um it's 18 affordable on-site 168 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:28,720 » uh and and and 50% above that offsite. So, they're trying to negotiate for 169 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:33,680 off-site because they basically lose a ton of revenue for every, you know, it's 170 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:37,600 like 2,700 bucks is the upper limit for uh 171 00:14:35,199 --> 00:14:42,880 » for rent, you know, for two two people in in this county and and they're going 172 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:46,560 to charge 12 to 15,000. So, that's 10 grand loss every unit, every month, 173 00:14:45,199 --> 00:14:52,720 forever. >> They're desperate to get offsite. Go 174 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:57,360 ahead, Lacy. Katie, may I ask um Katie, >> where would the offsite units be? 175 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:03,760 » Well, there apparently three options. One is uh over at Boston Properties. 176 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:11,040 » That that site uh you know, it has a 280 unit apartment building going up uh and 177 00:15:07,839 --> 00:15:16,480 uh 15% of them have been committed to be affordable. if they bought uh bought 178 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:22,160 restrictions on another 10% which would be another 28 units over there. That's 179 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:28,160 that's a lot. They could bring that up to 25% and be able to count all 280 180 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:33,199 units on the SHI. So that's pretty attractive but probably too expensive 181 00:15:30,079 --> 00:15:38,079 for HYM to bite off. There's Mariam Village. There's also another seven 182 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:44,079 acres that are not in the uh HYM proposal but belong to Regis over by the 183 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:49,040 aqueduct and uh they could just build their own affordable units and call it 184 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:55,680 uh part of the project and [snorts] be done with it. Um so there's there 185 00:15:53,279 --> 00:16:01,360 seem to be assembly options. Um Marian Village board is 186 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:06,880 cautious to the extreme right now about the possibility. 187 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:11,759 So they're not pushing forward with it, but it's a possibility. 188 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:19,519 » I think opposition to any proposal of building 189 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:23,519 housing near the aqueduct, but that yeah, maybe that maybe 190 00:16:22,079 --> 00:16:29,519 » probably would be. I mean, it seems there's a lot with against the existing 191 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:32,959 proposal for HYM. Yeah, there's there's the strongest opposition comes from some 192 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:39,279 of the butters on Welssley Street and on Colonial Way, which is on the other side 193 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:45,600 of the woods. Um they're they're pretty um pretty vocal right now or they have 194 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:49,120 been in the planning board meetings. Um they 195 00:16:47,199 --> 00:16:53,680 uh I mean it's like anything in Weston, you know, the the the noisy people 196 00:16:51,199 --> 00:16:59,920 influence which way we go and most people aren't paying attention. Um, I 197 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:04,959 think in all honesty, I think, and Alan and I have talked about this, I think we 198 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:10,559 given how few what people don't realize what's going on and and how few people 199 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:15,120 are paying attention, the only the only thing 200 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:21,679 that may actually work here uh to get people's attention in town is um uh is 201 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:27,360 kind of doing the the doom and gloom approach because if if HM goes down, 202 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:34,000 literally you could be facing many hundreds of of 40b units, clear-cut 203 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:38,080 forest, the whole thing. Uh, and that's I think that's the and and unfortunately 204 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:44,080 I think that's the only thing people are going to pay attention to. Um, and I 205 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:47,760 don't think they'll understand the the the logical thing is to take a chunk of 206 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:51,679 money from them and then use it somewhere else in a more appropriate 207 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:56,880 place. But you know selling that idea requires uh you know resources we don't 208 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:02,640 have that's for sure. >> So just for a point of clarification 209 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:07,600 just because it sounds like you've really done a lot of thinking. This will 210 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:13,039 require a zoning change. The zoning change will require a planning board 211 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:16,400 recommendation town meeting vote. I get all that. 212 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:20,799 The planning board's already looking at site and building plans and the zoning 213 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:24,720 hasn't even been changed. >> Correct. 214 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:30,320 » Yeah. Right. They're trying to uh set up the development agreement between So 215 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:34,480 that's kind of what they're working on. >> Okay. But the vote, the town meeting 216 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,559 vote would be on the zoning change. >> Yes. 217 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:38,160 » Both. It would be both. The the town meeting would have to vote 218 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,640 » right >> first on the zoning change, then on the 219 00:18:39,679 --> 00:18:42,799 development agreement. >> Got it. Yeah. 220 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,840 » And we've done this we've done this before. We did this with 221 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:50,720 » Yeah. No, I'm I'm familiar with the the process. I just wanted to So, 222 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,240 » what I was trying to say is we've done we've done a a zoning change and and a 223 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:59,760 development agreement where there was a cash transfer before with the old 224 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:03,679 Liberty Mutual site. So, we we did that >> uh and the so the town the town has seen 225 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:08,960 this process before >> and you guys as the trust 226 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:13,200 will be con will be talking to the planning board. I assume 227 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:17,440 » we are we are influencers at best. >> Got it. That's that. Okay. Okie dokie. 228 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,280 » Good. That was a good point of clarification, Katie. And and I actually 229 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:26,720 was going to ask going back to I think Tom, you had made a comment about where 230 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:31,360 mixing the lower income creates some conflicts. And I think that's you're the 231 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:35,120 trust is kind of at this discussion point, right, of whether or not how you 232 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:38,799 want to make your recommendation. So, um, maybe it would be helpful to talk a 233 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:44,080 little bit about like what are those conflicts that you perceive and why you 234 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:47,760 would want the option of the money rather than just having them build it. 235 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:52,799 And I think Jeeoff, you had mentioned some comments about what's the 236 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:56,320 differential between the number of units you could get from them just building 237 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:00,400 them and including them versus how much money it would cost you to actually and 238 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,440 time it would cost you to build them yourself with the money that you're 239 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:07,520 getting. So like what's the value proposition of either one? So I think 240 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:12,400 that's kind of where you're at. >> The number of units, you know, they're 241 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:19,600 proposing uh they they've said to the planning board that we will accept uh 242 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:27,840 10% onsite, but if you allow us to work out an off-site deal, we will fund 15% 243 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:30,640 of our uh total offsite. So that's the difference. 244 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:36,000 » It it's very Yeah, it's really it's that simple. value, how many units could you 245 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:39,039 actually get, right, with money? So, if you're going unit for unit, that's where 246 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:42,720 I think I didn't know if that's what you were talking about, Jeeoff, like how 247 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,840 many >> That's exactly what I was getting to. 248 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,679 Uh, but >> also I think it's it's notable that they 249 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:54,480 they've said to the select board that, yeah, we'll do 10% on-site and we'll 250 00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:59,120 fund 15% offsite. Well, I mean, 15% off site, you're 251 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:03,919 talking about uh 27 26 or 27 units. 252 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,559 » Yep. >> And they would build them. 253 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,919 » Well, they're they they're not in the they said they're not builders for 254 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:16,559 affordable housing. they you need another uh you know site site which 255 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:23,760 means you know if they if they did the deal with BXP for 27 units 256 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:30,559 um which would be uh pretty much you know almost enough to get that 25% of 257 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:35,440 that bu that that building and that the HI could count all of it. Uh 258 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:40,720 » yeah let let me let me clarify a couple things. Um, first the if we did if they 259 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:45,600 did if we gave the money to to Boston Properties, it would be buying down 260 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:50,320 affordability on an existing project. They're doing a three they're doing a 261 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:54,400 five-phase 3A project uh on the Boston Properties site. So, the idea would give 262 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:58,640 give Boston Properties uh a chunk of money and buy down additional 263 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:04,000 affordability. Right now, that's at a 15% I believe affordable uh for I don't 264 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:09,679 know how many. It's like 600 total units over time, I think. Something like that. 265 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:14,960 Um, so that would be one way to do it. The, uh, I'm not a particular fan of 266 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:19,840 that idea because it just it's just shoving people off into into the old 267 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:26,559 quarry on the other side of Weston and basically dumping them into Waltham. Um, 268 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,600 » they're very nice. They're supposed to be very nice. So, 269 00:22:28,159 --> 00:22:31,760 » it'll be nice. It'll be nice, but it's still, 270 00:22:29,919 --> 00:22:35,440 » you know, I'm sure people who want affordable units in Westland would be 271 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,559 glad to take them almost anywhere. Boston property interested in this? 272 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:43,120 » We don't know. >> Nobody knows. 273 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:47,520 » The uh uh the select board has designated Alot 274 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:53,679 » as their as their contact between the select board and HYM 275 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:59,600 » who also engineered the the 3A resoning of the Boston property site. So he's he 276 00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:02,960 knows he'll be in talks with both parties and I'm guessing he's going to 277 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,880 try and work a deal. >> Yeah. You know, the other sub other 278 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:12,080 problem other possibility is we'd probably get the most affordable units 279 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:20,000 out of this whole deal if we just let HYM fail and let Regis put in two or 280 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:23,600 three 40b projects. >> Yeah. 281 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:29,039 » Which would all be 25% affordable. >> Yeah. Yeah. That and that's the that's 282 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:35,600 the irony here. Just an outsider question. The I mean is there a big 283 00:23:32,159 --> 00:23:39,120 demand for a senior living in Weston? >> Yes. 284 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:43,360 » I mean the I've seen a lot of you know you I'm totally the newbie. I've seen a 285 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,880 lot of communities 286 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:53,280 deal with this kind of thing coming in, but and the thought of like developing 287 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:57,919 off-site units, but ultimately the 10% units would be kind of a bird in hand. 288 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,760 And if it's a desirable project and you like the project, just something to 289 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,880 think about. There's a lot of steps to getting that money to become those 290 00:24:03,919 --> 00:24:09,919 units. >> Yeah. Um and and there is something to 291 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:13,840 be said for the bird in hand if there's a big demand for it. 292 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:19,039 » There is a >> we've got over at Marian Village a 35 293 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:23,679 person waiting list and we only have four or five openings a year. 294 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:28,640 » You've got the same situation that >> Yeah. Brook school we have a uh 295 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:32,400 » Marian Village is assisted living. >> No 296 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:38,159 » no it's a it's a elderly affordable >> houseed. Okay. Yes. Katie, it's actually 297 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:42,240 a really cool project with a fascinating uh history. It's worth looking into just 298 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,039 memorize yourself with. >> Yeah. 299 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:48,480 » It was set up as a nonprofit. >> Yeah, I'm familiar with it. I just don't 300 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:52,640 know the details, but I'm going to take a peek. 301 00:24:49,520 --> 00:25:02,480 » Yeah. Brook School, which is the the other big project in town, 75 units, um 302 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:08,799 uh section 8 as well as um market. Um and um we have anywhere from a 4 to 10 303 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:14,240 year waiting list at any one time. For the affordable um the for the market 304 00:25:12,159 --> 00:25:19,520 units, it's a little fuzzier because we we have u you know probably 50 people on 305 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,640 that list but um but they're not always ready. You people get on the list 306 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,320 thinking that they're going to move in two or three years or four years. So 307 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:32,960 they're not always ready when the when a unit comes up. So it's a more dynamic 308 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:38,279 situation. But but um we don't have any vacancies. Never have any vacancies 309 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,279 longer than 2 months. 310 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:49,120 And the uh what is the council on aging? What was the the council on aging 311 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:54,799 estimated we're short 100 someund some units I think um for elderly um 312 00:25:53,440 --> 00:26:00,799 housing. And that's just elderly affordable, not gen not general 313 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:05,679 affordable. Um, and the and the over 60 cohort in town is very is a very large 314 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:07,760 number, but people can't afford to stay here because [clears throat] there's 315 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:13,039 nowhere to go >> or people have nowhere to u transition 316 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:18,159 down to. I mean, you know, there's not much in the way of 317 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:23,039 » smaller town houses or, you know, smaller like smaller residences for 318 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:26,640 people here. So, >> so they moved I mean there's more 319 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:30,559 options in surrounding towns. So even people could afford it just move across 320 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:35,279 the you know >> across the border into Wayland or you 321 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:39,240 know Waltham Welssley whatever because there's not you know 322 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:46,240 and some people think there's there's a whole contingent in town or it's like 323 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:53,159 that's great that's the way it should be. So, 324 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,159 » yep. There's a big contingent like that. 325 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:58,159 Same thing for the people who work here. They Oh, Framingham's a good place. Send 326 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:06,640 them over there. >> Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, there's a 327 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:10,960 there's a lot of that. Yeah. >> So, it's kind of a funny question. Do we 328 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:16,799 work actively work to support getting this over the line as a group? because 329 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:23,520 our interest is affordable housing and if you if you added it up um having it 330 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:27,679 fail might produce more affordable housing the HYM project letting go of 331 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:32,720 40B. >> Yeah, that's that's a really interesting 332 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:36,720 perspective. The only thing I'll say is, you know, given the long-term track 333 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:42,400 record of the Brooks School and Marian Village, 334 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:48,080 I, you know, there's value in having those entities uh develop the housing 335 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:51,279 over the long run than having it done by an outside developer and managed by 336 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:56,159 them. >> I agree. I mean, I'm treasurer over at 337 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:59,840 Marian Village and it's and it and really active over there. I'm going to 338 00:27:58,159 --> 00:28:05,520 go over there after this meeting. I have a coffee over there every Wednesday 339 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:11,679 morning and the uh the um it's a great place and they've got you know five 340 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:17,039 acres zone for multif family housing so they could build 38 more you know 341 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:22,000 » it's like I mean it's it's it would be a um 342 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:25,600 uh well not frictionless but a lot less 343 00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:30,480 friction in terms of the development path shall we say 344 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:35,760 » it it would it would fewer neighbor resistance over there because they're 345 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:39,760 they're separated by big buffers or in some directions they're no neighbors at 346 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:44,480 all. It's >> you're involved with them. I mean, are 347 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:49,520 they interested in expanding? >> Well, they haven't been thinking about 348 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:55,679 uh expanding uh previously and they have a cautious board leadership 349 00:28:52,720 --> 00:29:00,159 um who have lots of questions. You know, there's kind of two ways to look at a 350 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:04,240 situation like that. One is, boy, that would be great if we could work this 351 00:29:01,919 --> 00:29:07,039 out. Let's figure out whether we can. And the other one is, geez, I don't 352 00:29:05,679 --> 00:29:10,960 know. This could go wrong or that could go wrong. We don't know anything about 353 00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:14,159 that. And it's kind of sitting and waiting for something to land in your 354 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:18,640 lap. And that's kind of where they're at right now, I'm afraid. 355 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:21,440 » The board is kind of split about that. We haven't really had a detailed 356 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,640 discussion about it. >> The board of selectman or the planning 357 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,520 board? >> The the board at Mary Village. 358 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:34,399 » Got it. >> Village. the we could also I mean 359 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:41,440 if there was a monetary component settlement of this uh it could also be 360 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:46,720 left in a more open situation where we could apply it as a housing trust into 361 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:53,600 small multiple smaller developments potentially or or on other things just 362 00:29:50,159 --> 00:30:01,760 so Katie and Kristen as you well for everybody's knowledge we are Um 363 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:06,399 looking it's looking like right now we are at best 364 00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:12,960 uh one and 3/4 or two years away from safe 365 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:18,720 harbor uh given where things all the stand on all the developments uh in 366 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:25,279 town. So there are there's a huge potential for other 40bs 367 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:30,720 to come in and drop a bomb on Weston. Um, and there are ways to there might be 368 00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:36,799 ways to leverage this money into safe harbor uh, safe harbor option for the 369 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:40,720 town, but uh, none of that stuff is that stuff doesn't seem to be interesting to 370 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:46,320 the select board or to the planning board. So, uh, it's, you know, so we're 371 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:51,279 in a weird place here where the people who are in charge of this stuff um, 372 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:56,159 » really don't want to deal with it. I I hope I don't sound like I'm making 373 00:30:54,320 --> 00:31:00,880 trouble, but I mean, but it is one of you mentioned that your goal is to 374 00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:05,600 create affordable housing. Um, not necessarily to get to safe 375 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,720 harbor, even though that may be another planning objective for the town. So, 376 00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:14,080 » yeah, >> you know, that should be guiding. 377 00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:19,360 » I mean, you guys do you I'm the newbie here. I'm just saying it's good to kind 378 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:23,760 of keep your eye on the the prize. Oh, we we this is this is a topic that's 379 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:29,120 come up before in the sense that with respect to on the elderly housing 380 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:33,039 committee where you know we've we've been pressured to do things by the town 381 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,799 to do safe harbor but that's not our mission. Our mission is elderly housing 382 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,240 and you know we've had to push back on that a few times. 383 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:44,480 » Yeah. >> So uh you know because it sometimes that 384 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:49,679 goal is in alignment with what we want to do but not always. 385 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:54,399 So, I I took a look at at at an example over at Martha's Vineyard about the how 386 00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:58,480 they approach uh affordable housing because of course they have a a big 387 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,760 workforce problem. Uh nobody's going to take the ferry to come to work. You 388 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:07,919 either have to live on the island or you don't work. Nobody works there. So, um, 389 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:13,200 they have a nonprofit community development corp that works 390 00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:19,679 with the trust and and that's there's only two nonprofits devoted to housing 391 00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:23,919 in town that have a broad charter to do that, but they're not really very 392 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:30,000 active. One is Martha's V or one is Miriam Village which the charter says 393 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:36,640 it's it's to develop moderate and lowincome housing not dedicated to any 394 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:42,720 particular site or even any particular population. Somehow it landed on elderly 395 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:47,840 housing at that site um early in in the 70s and it sort of stuck with it but it 396 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:53,360 charter is broader. The other is WAFI, which is a western affordable housing uh 397 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:58,480 foundation. Um but neither one is really very aggressive or active in doing that. 398 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:04,000 And and if you're going to go since there's almost no land except for three 399 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:11,279 church owned properties, Regis, the seminary, and Campion Center in town to 400 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:17,679 develop. Uh you've got to go and talk to existing land land owners about the 401 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:23,440 possibility. So, we we need a nonprofit entity that could offer tax advantages 402 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:30,720 to people to do that. Now, when when Tom is saying we've got 18 months, two years 403 00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:37,360 of of safe harbor exposure, that probably is telling those three big land 404 00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:41,200 owners that do something now because you won't have a chance to to do it later. 405 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:46,799 You'll never get zoning changes. your only option really is some sort of 40B 406 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:51,519 project to make use of that excess land. >> Also, Alan, just to interrupt briefly, 407 00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:55,519 the um the not in God's backyard is supposed to pass today in the at the 408 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:59,679 state legislature. That's up for vote today and it's expected to pass, which 409 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,919 will >> take the churches out of the equation, 410 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,399 » out of the zoning equation, I should say. 411 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,760 » I mean, they do they could do what by right. Is that what it says? 412 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:13,200 » That'll free them up. >> Yeah. So there you go. 413 00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:18,800 » There's another congregation that owns some land too, I believe. So that, you 414 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:22,560 know, um could be freed up in that equ, you know, scenario as well. But that's 415 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:26,159 just parathetically. >> Yeah. 416 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:30,879 » And which is that yours? 417 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:35,919 You own some land. >> Yeah. 418 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:39,200 Well, I don't know. What do we do? I guess we just keep track of it because 419 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,760 we haven't really decided what we want to do here. I think we I think we need 420 00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:50,079 to know more before we can make any kind of vote or recommendation to the town. 421 00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:54,320 Um I think so I think there's going to be a lot of stuff that happens over the 422 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:59,440 next month or so to prepare it. The reality is that HYM and Regis would like 423 00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:02,800 to see this come to fall town meeting. That's is that beginning of November, 424 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:09,520 Alan? I can't remember. >> November 23rd. Yeah. Um, so that's um 425 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:14,160 » not too far away. >> That's not that far away, but but given 426 00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:17,839 the fact that everybody's gone, um, nothing's really going to happen in 427 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:23,200 terms from a public standpoint until Labor Day. So, we have a we have a month 428 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:28,000 or so to to get stuff together and understand things. So, I would think 429 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:33,440 that we might know enough by next board meeting to offer um a letter of 430 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:38,079 recommendation, but I don't think we're quite there yet. 431 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:43,119 » Just quick point of clarification. So, the zoning change and the development 432 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:47,040 agreement would potentially come before town meeting. Is the planning board 433 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,160 crafting the development agreement or ultimately that has to be done by the 434 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,200 selectman? >> That would be the planning board is 435 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,760 basically kicked that to the select board. Got it. 436 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:04,400 » You know, the the planning board basically there there's there's a lot of 437 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:09,520 conflict on the planning board about affordable housing and so they're 438 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,520 they're they're just they're kind of stalled. 439 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:25,359 Anyway, that's that's kind of where we are in this. So, I propose we just wait 440 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:29,680 until next month and have a further update on this. 441 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:33,200 » Yeah, I was just reading through the uh the Yimi Act and Whoa, that's a big 442 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,640 change. >> Yeah, 443 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,680 » starter homes, uh, religious organizations 444 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,440 by right. >> Yeah, the 445 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:47,920 » it's it's complicated because probably 80% of religious properties are are 446 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:51,599 pretty small. There's just like a church or churchyard, but there's some large 447 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,119 ones out there. >> There's going to be a lot of condo 448 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,520 redevelopments in the coming months, I predict. 449 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:01,119 » Yeah. >> So, 450 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:05,200 » yeah. And actually, what's also true is that 451 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,400 that churches do own other properties. You know, they they're often sometimes 452 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:13,920 gifted properties and other things. So, there's it'd be interesting to see how 453 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:17,240 that plays out. I'm not an expert on that at all. 454 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:27,040 Anyway, um that's where that is. Um I think we should move on to the next 455 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:30,320 piece. Um which is the Warrenav rent increase. 456 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:37,440 Um this is um 457 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:41,280 » do we have I guess I could Kristen you you are you the you're the 458 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,520 you own the meeting, right? >> I can I'm happy to screen share. Would 459 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,520 that be helpful? >> Yeah. Could you screen share that that 460 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,520 memo? >> Sure. 461 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:55,040 » So, do you see the Let me make sure you see the agenda first. 462 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,960 » Do you see the agenda? >> Sure. 463 00:37:55,359 --> 00:38:00,800 » Yeah. Is it the It's It's >> okay. It's great. 464 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:05,200 » A lot. Yeah. I just wanted to make sure you you're I have two screens going, so 465 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,640 » wanted to make sure we had the right one first. Okay. So, here's um 466 00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:14,560 » Yeah. >> a draft. Um, this is what Christine 467 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:17,760 prepared for I think the trust um to review at their last meeting, but I'm 468 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,680 not sure if you were ready to vote at that point. But 469 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:26,960 » we we weren't, but but I mean just a quick this is 470 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,960 this is basically um 471 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:38,240 » this is this voting on this or submitting this change is really just 472 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:42,640 creating a framework because we don't have None of this is going to nothing's 473 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:46,960 going to change right now because we don't have any new uh renters coming in. 474 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:53,680 But this is what we would be charging for new tenants if they did come in. 475 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:57,200 Um and and we just have to we have to make sure that we're approved to do this 476 00:38:55,359 --> 00:39:01,280 in the case in that in case that situation comes up. So it's not like 477 00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:07,920 we're going to be changing anybody's rent uh in the near term. um which is 478 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:12,160 you know there's a there's an argument we can make about that we do need to do 479 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:17,119 rent increases but that's separate from what this letter is 480 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,560 » start joking actual 481 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:24,320 » does that make sense to people >> just uh with Warren AB I believe at 482 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:29,040 least one of the tenants over there is a tenant at will does not have a lease 483 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:34,320 correct yes >> so that would definitely pertain to that 484 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:38,400 person when would this pertain to them? 485 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:44,320 » Um, they're on that special agreement, I believe. So, um, 486 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:50,560 I don't know where we are on that. I think that we should be approaching the 487 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:54,320 end of that that um that repayment agreement, I believe. I'd 488 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,520 have to check. >> Yeah. 489 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:02,000 » Yeah. Moette's on on top of that. We met Jeff and I and Christine met with her 490 00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:07,040 before um before Christine's departure and so yeah she's that's being handled 491 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:11,280 um in that separate agreement. >> Yeah. Yeah. So I think we would we would 492 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:15,200 have to address that that we got a number of months left on that. So we 493 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:20,240 have to when we get closer I think we would think about that but but right now 494 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:25,440 I don't think there's I'm not aware of any sense of anybody 495 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:30,240 moving or or leaving it anytime soon. So, but again, you guys are you and 496 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:34,400 Munette are probably more on top of that than I am. 497 00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:37,200 » How many units is this? >> Seven. 498 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,359 » Seven. >> And and this is just their annual rent 499 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,280 increase prompted by HUD. >> Yes. 500 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,800 » Exchanges. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. This this is more a 501 00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:52,160 formality than anything else? >> No, I got it. This is great. 502 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:56,040 » Right. So, we just have to vote on this so that we can send it off. 503 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,400 So, so that being said, do I have a motion? 504 00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:04,640 » So moved. >> Do I have a second? 505 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,440 » Second. >> Okay. All in favor? 506 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,800 » I >> I Okay, good. Done. 507 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:15,079 » Um, 508 00:41:15,273 --> 00:41:24,160 [clears throat] all right. Moving on. Um, does anybody have we had any update 509 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:28,079 on the architectural plans? I'm not sure where that was. 510 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:32,240 I'm not sure who's handling that anymore. 511 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,000 » The um you mean the um the final plans? What do you mean the architectural 512 00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:35,920 plans? The >> Kristen, you can you can unshare now. 513 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:39,200 Kristen, >> the as bills. 514 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:44,640 » The asbuilt. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, Moya is working on that. I 515 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:48,079 think there was already an invoice paid, but that's being handled. So, this is 516 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:53,040 one of the items, Jeeoff, that we were discussing um as well. And so, that's 517 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:57,520 being worked through. I think when Moyette came back from vacation, um 518 00:41:55,359 --> 00:42:02,400 there was a a payment or something that needed to go through. So, she's aware of 519 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,359 it. She's working on that. Um they should have that soon. And I think we 520 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,280 discussed, you know, part of that would be the maintenance and operation plan. 521 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,760 So, that should be on the asbuilts as well. So, 522 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:18,280 » all right. We'll check on given that it's been five years since it was due, 523 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,280 we we can wait another month or two. 524 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:27,599 » Um All right. Uministrative matters. Uh we have our five members right now, but 525 00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:32,960 we are at minimum. Um and the person I was hoping there would be a new member 526 00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:37,839 um who had said she would be at the meeting today is not at the meeting 527 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:42,880 today. So I'm not really sure what happened there. Um I hope that she 528 00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:48,720 didn't go to town hall looking for us physically. Um, so I'm I have to follow 529 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,839 up with her again to see what's going >> I didn't see her when I was there at 530 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,839 8:30. >> Oh. Oh, you went to you went there. 531 00:42:54,179 --> 00:42:59,680 [laughter] >> I'm sorry. I just have to interject with 532 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:05,599 a quick question. The status update on the asbuilt plans. You said that is 533 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,640 on hold. Is it? >> No. 534 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:13,440 So, so just to update you quickly, Katie, um the Warren Av project was 535 00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:18,400 completed 10 years ago. 536 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:24,480 » Um and part of that uh there are annual landscape and and 537 00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:28,880 conservation maintenance elements to that there. Um 538 00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:32,720 » for it to be the permit was never closed out properly because the asbuilts 539 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:37,280 weren't ever filed by got it. Got it. Builder and so forth. So there was a lot 540 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:44,319 of loose ends which were um left there. It it was a nightmare project. 541 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:51,520 » Um and the project went over budget dramatically. The builder um screwed up 542 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:58,319 massively. It was just one of those um those things that happened and um it was 543 00:43:53,920 --> 00:44:03,839 before any of our times um pretty much. Uh but it that 544 00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:08,560 there was a lot of baggage left and that this is the last piece of it I hope that 545 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,839 we're trying to clean up. >> But where you're at now is someone is 546 00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:14,720 reviewing them. Is that what you said Kristen? 547 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:16,880 » So there is a property manager. >> Got it. 548 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:21,280 » That and this is that kind of complicated piece where like the trust 549 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,800 has the agreement with the elderly housing committee for Moette to oversee 550 00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:28,640 for them to oversee but they hire Moette. Moyets's a town employee, so 551 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,119 she's overseeing this process. >> Got it. 552 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,720 » And making sure and the trust is just kind of making sure that this is 553 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,760 happening. >> Does that summarize it a little bit, 554 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:42,000 Tom? I hope. >> Yeah. Yeah. We're just We had to go back 555 00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:45,440 to the original architects and so forth and surveyors to get stuff cleaned up. 556 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,319 And >> so it's in progress. 557 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:53,359 » Yeah, it's in progress. Okay. >> Yeah. 558 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,960 » It's not it's not like a burning issue, but 559 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,119 » I got it. Sorry about that. 560 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:02,400 » It's just one of those things we want to clean up. 561 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:08,800 » Um, okay. So, what else? No applicants. So, um, uh, we need to reappoint, 562 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:14,480 um, uh, Allan and I to different things. Um, 563 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:19,760 we have, this is a vote for So, we need to reappoint Allen to to to the CBC. I 564 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:22,400 need a vote on that. >> So, moved. 565 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,119 » Second. >> Second. 566 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:29,200 All in favor? >> I 567 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:33,839 » I I Okay, done. Then we have to reappoint Allan to the housing 568 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:37,119 production plan steering committee, >> which I'm not sure he's even has even 569 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,160 met this year. >> Oh, yeah. They've been meeting right 570 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,839 along. >> Housing production. This is the steering 571 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,480 committee, not is this? >> This is the steering committee, not the 572 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,960 production. >> Right. The the steering committee has 573 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:53,440 not met. >> Yeah. So anyway, we need another vote 574 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:57,680 for to get to reappoint Allen to that. So do I have a a motion? 575 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,079 » I move. >> Second. 576 00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:04,319 » Okay. All in favor? >> I I. 577 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,839 » And then lastly, Alan and I need to be reappointed to the Riverside Housing 578 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:14,400 Working Group. So Jeff, could you give me a motion? I 579 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:19,200 will make a motion to uh renew Allen and Tom's uh membership or participation on 580 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,480 the Riverside Housing Working Group. >> Okay. 581 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,319 » Second. >> All in favor? 582 00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:24,480 » I >> I 583 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:29,280 » Okay, done. >> And now Tom, just just for um 584 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:35,920 understanding what happens next, will you send an email confirming those um 585 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:39,280 nom those um votes of appointments to those respective boards? 586 00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:41,760 » Yeah, I'll send it. Okay. I'll send it to Leon. I think it I think it has to go 587 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,880 to Leon. >> Okay. 588 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,880 » But I'll take care of that. 589 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:54,119 » Thank you. >> Um and then we have 590 00:46:54,160 --> 00:47:00,720 um I'm not completely sure what this is, but we need a housing trust member to 591 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:05,040 collaborate with the council on aging for the housing fair in the fall. 592 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:10,960 So, this one, Christine mentioned to me that the um Council on Aging was looking 593 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:17,359 to host um a housing fair uh or that anyway that 594 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:22,720 that there was one in discussion um and that there was some idea about centering 595 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:28,160 it around edus similar to what the town of Conquered had done. Um, and so if 596 00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:31,599 that's a desire of the trust to to work with the COA 597 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,960 that there probably should be a point person on that 598 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:40,880 » conversation, I'm on the board at the COA, too. So, sitting down with the 599 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:45,040 director over there, we said, "What do we do about housing in town for, you 600 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:49,359 know, that that that impact?" Because they had just had a uh a session for 601 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:56,160 people about how to stay in their house. basically the resources at at at the 602 00:47:53,040 --> 00:48:02,480 available for people to age in place. Um, and and it seemed like uh ADU was 603 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:06,720 another option that wasn't explored. And so she said, "Well, why don't we do a uh 604 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:14,920 a housing fair?" And I said, "I thought the trust might want to get involved and 605 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:14,920 support that." So, here we are. 606 00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:24,480 So, she's looking for a date in October. Um, probably in the community center. 607 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:31,280 Looking for a date. Probably a Thursday afternoon, 4 to 4 to 6, something like 608 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:36,880 that. So, it it could be accessible to the COA kind of population as well as uh 609 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:42,640 younger people if they took a little time off of work, whatever. 610 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:48,559 I I mean I I think I see no reason not to collaborate or support this. Um would 611 00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:51,520 it make sense for you just to do that, Alan? I know I don't want to throw 612 00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:56,319 another thing on your plate. Um >> no, I'm glad to over there I'm over 613 00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,400 there all the time anyhow. So >> yeah, because I'm I'm feeling um I'm I'm 614 00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:05,920 maxed out right now with other commitments. Um, and uh, so if you could 615 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,280 just I mean that's since you're already there might make the easy that might be 616 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,359 the easiest thing to do. I mean we don't have to make this very formal 617 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:16,160 particularly. >> So we can say Allan is volunteering to 618 00:49:14,319 --> 00:49:18,160 collaborate with the COA for the housing fair in the fall. 619 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,359 » Yeah. >> Okay. Thanks. 620 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:26,640 » Okay. And we'd be happy to to participate. I would think I'd certainly 621 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:29,680 be happy to participate. Yeah, I might be I might 622 00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:36,240 » I guess we need a real proposal to vote on, but so there's just an idea so far. 623 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:41,119 » Well, you know, I could it's something from a technical standpoint. 624 00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:45,680 » Um Alan, you could think about asking me to participate from an architectural 625 00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:49,040 perspective too terms >> that' be great. Yeah. I also think if 626 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:53,280 there's a big vote leading at the town meeting in November, you know, being 627 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:57,839 making, you know, having a visible presence at an, 628 00:49:55,119 --> 00:50:02,800 » you know, affordable housing or a housing program in October at the 629 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,720 Council on Aging is a has all sorts of synergies. 630 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,720 » Yeah, true. 631 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,119 » Okay, good. 632 00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:16,880 » Thank you. So, Tom, Jeff, you probably know a lot more about this Yiggby uh uh 633 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,280 bill. I think you've been following it for a while. 634 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:24,640 » I have been following it. I don't know. I mean, I've been I don't know what uh 635 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:28,960 which version of the bill made it through, but I'll be I'm going to look 636 00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:35,440 at it later today or tomorrow. So, >> yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure 637 00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:40,160 » there was in the news report said this go vote was scheduled for today. 638 00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:44,160 So, >> but it sound like that that's a big 639 00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:49,200 change that the town should probably be proactive about helping figure out 640 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:55,760 » what we what should do because that transit or oriented housing the uh the 641 00:50:51,760 --> 00:51:02,240 only transit location is uh about 100 ft from my house. So, uh the the that would 642 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:11,920 be one thing. Uh the other is uh church property and then um uh small houses 643 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:16,640 allowable on on lots. So three three houses per per lot uh mandated. I guess 644 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,155 you have to get >> three houses per lot. Can you imagine? 645 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,680 Oh my goodness. >> [laughter] 646 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:30,160 [gasps] >> Well, it's going to be a this is going 647 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:32,480 to create a firestorm of those who were uh against 648 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,839 » instead of moving to Somerville, I'll just wait for Somerville to come here. 649 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,520 » Well, there you go. >> Hey, I live in Somerville. [laughter] 650 00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:43,680 » Hey, it's not Someville. >> I'm not knocking it. Actually, I'm I 651 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:47,119 meant that in a very complimentary way, but that's all right. very happily. Uh 652 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,720 » I >> I very happily downsized here and it's 653 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,880 fantastic. >> I I lived in Somerville for two years. I 654 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,240 that's my wife and I were just talking about that. 655 00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:01,280 » I walk everywhere. I love it. It's a whole thing. 656 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:06,480 » I'm not I wasn't being disparaging. >> No, I'm teasing. I'm teasing. 657 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,960 » My our our conversation at home is that Somerville's gotten too expensive to 658 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,000 downsize to. >> It's very expensive. 659 00:52:11,591 --> 00:52:17,680 [laughter] >> Very. [gasps] Yeah. Arlington, too. 660 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:23,381 » Yeah. But I'll tell you, when you just walk over to your doctor or walk over to 661 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:26,079 the supermarket, you're like, "Yes, [laughter] 662 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:30,240 » it's fantastic." >> All right. So, we need to we need to 663 00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:33,680 wrap this up, but um next meeting would be 664 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:38,640 technically the right now technically the 5th uh in the morning. We have to I 665 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:44,079 mean that's I'll we'll do that tentatively because we got to sort out 666 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:49,200 um we've got some issues about timing and and Anapom our select board member 667 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:54,319 has a diff has difficulty in the for morning meetings um but uh other people 668 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:59,359 have difficulty for evening meetings so we have to sort that out um but but for 669 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,559 for the time being I would propose we we we tenatively uh schedule our next 670 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:10,079 meeting for August 5th >> and and Tom one of the um I had sent 671 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:14,960 this kind of later um in the afternoon yesterday, but um [clears throat] 672 00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:19,440 Katie's Katie's schedule could and Katie, you can speak for yourself, but 673 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:24,319 um could um allow for an evening meeting if it's virtual. So, totally. 674 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:27,119 » Um yeah. So, so that's something I I wanted to make sure that you were aware 675 00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:31,280 of that it wouldn't be able to be hybrid, but um but virtual an evening 676 00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:36,240 meeting, you know, I'd like to attend with Katie for the next meeting, which I 677 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:40,400 can't do um in the evening. Um, so for August, it would have to still be the 678 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:45,359 morning, but um, if Katie is feeling comfortable after that to kind of fly on 679 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:51,119 her own, um, the trust could consider virtual meetings at 7 o'clock. At 680 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:56,400 » I have I don't have young children anymore. I'm completely flexible about 681 00:53:54,559 --> 00:54:01,760 when you'd want to have the meeting. Yeah, let's let's let's let's 682 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:08,559 tentatively say keep it 8:30 for August 5th, but I I need to talk to Anapom and 683 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:12,960 I have to u pursue this other uh potential member who I think is 684 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,640 uh this is like the third meeting now that she didn't come to as an 685 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:24,160 introduction. So I suspect that this is not going to happen, frankly. But um we 686 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:30,160 need some other members and uh um haven't really I've beaten shaken the 687 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:35,040 trees a little bit but no one's fallen out. 688 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:41,520 So anybody else has any ideas that would be great. 689 00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:48,000 » I can talk to you offline. I I have had um couple of conversations but that was 690 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:53,359 before my sbatical with folks so I can reinvigorate those. 691 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:59,760 » That would be great. Just one um one thought. If the Mass Wins Act does 692 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:04,160 pass, I I'm not sure it's being voted on today, but um you know, that would be 693 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:08,400 something you might want to there might be a little more than you want to handle 694 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:13,440 for the housing fair, but there will be a lot of significant stuff in there 695 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:17,599 » that someone could sort of summarize. It's it's pretty meaty. 696 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:21,119 » Yeah, that's I haven't se I haven't seen a summary of it. I know and I know that 697 00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:25,599 it was all being it was all pretty fluid at the last minute still. So, 698 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:31,040 » the chapel website tends to have very good summaries u that you can just look 699 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:35,680 at and it keeps it pretty simple. >> Let's see what passes. 700 00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:38,880 » Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And when >> given our legislation, 701 00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:41,920 » it's in committee now, right? Is it in the um 702 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:47,280 » No, I think it Well, I thought it was going for for a full vote. 703 00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:52,079 » Full vote. Okay, let's all right. That's good. All right. 704 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:56,640 » So, I don't know. I mean, I'm just not I mean, that's just one more thing for me 705 00:55:54,160 --> 00:56:02,400 to track and I don't track it. So, >> there there was two more agenda items on 706 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:08,400 here quickly that I know nothing about >> that lots are open and habitat. 707 00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:11,920 » Yes. So, Habitat, very quick updates. Habitat's under construction. Anybody 708 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:16,960 who's driven along Route 20 has can see that on the corner of Welssley and Route 709 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:23,839 20. Uh site clearing is underway. Uh site prep is underway. Uh foundation 710 00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:31,280 work should be starting in September. Um the Mera project, Mil Creek, uh is well 711 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:35,440 into construction. They are they are both of those projects are initiating 712 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:39,920 their affordable lotteryies. Um don't know too much about it. I've seen I've 713 00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:46,960 seen advertisements for it, but um but those are underway. 714 00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:52,079 Um, and they will be I believe the lotteryies are scheduled for like 715 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:58,079 September or October in both cases. Uh, Habitat will take longer because that's 716 00:56:53,599 --> 00:57:01,359 a purchase, not a rental. But um and then um 717 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:08,319 » is there a way for us to put up on our our committee website the notices of 718 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:10,960 these kinds of uh regional um >> yeah I don't see 719 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:14,160 » lotteryies and availability >> whoever whoever manages the website 720 00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:19,280 could should be able to add that I think is that um that's town hall somewhere 721 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,200 » is that Anthony or I don't know who does that 722 00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:24,960 » I think it's Stephan Stephen >> I have to leave 723 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,839 » bye Buzzy >> bye 724 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,480 Bye. Nice to meet you. 725 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,799 » Thank you very much. >> You're quite welcome. 726 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,839 » Um yeah, we could we we should look into that. I think that's a good idea, Alan. 727 00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:44,160 Um not that anybody ever goes to our website, but what the heck? [laughter] 728 00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:51,920 Um last item is that I wanted to mention two other things. Um 729 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:59,040 the uh Dington project is moving towards uh permit submission. that's been kind 730 00:57:54,720 --> 00:58:04,720 of tied up. Um the Brook School, two new units at Brook School are uh 731 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:12,400 in permitting. Not quite there yet. There's been some issues with fire 732 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:18,799 safety. And then lastly, the state uh slapped down Weston's appeal for the 733 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:24,240 Route 30 project. And to my knowledge, there's been no movement to file a final 734 00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:27,960 appeal with the SJC. So that looks like that will be proceeding. 735 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:39,920 So that will be up. >> It's the that project is famous. I was 736 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:45,520 at a a meeting of uh organized by by chapa of trust people and people from 737 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:48,799 all over the state from the west and people said, "Oh, you're from Weston. 738 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:53,119 How's the Whopper going?" >> Yeah. Yeah. The western Whopper was 739 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:59,000 somehow famous everywhere. >> The Whopper is famous. 740 00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:59,000 » The Whopper is about to be served. 741 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,960 » Yep. >> What's the What's the name of the 742 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:08,559 project? The actual name. >> Who's the developer? Do you know any? 743 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:12,640 » Oh god. Um, >> it's okay. I'll look it up. It's the 744 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:16,240 Route 30 project. >> Yeah. I can't remember the name. I mean, 745 00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:21,040 Jonathan Buckman was the local developer, but he's partnered with um 746 00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:25,200 Outfit out of Houston to do it. >> Okay. 747 00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:27,280 » Um big national firm. Um >> Burger King. 748 00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:33,040 » Just kidding. >> But yeah, I don't know if they have a 749 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:37,359 real name for it yet or not. Um so, uh yeah, like the the Modair I think 750 00:59:35,359 --> 00:59:39,040 they're calling themselves Mil Creek. >> Yeah, 751 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,440 » Mil Creek. >> Just another bland name. So, just to 752 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:48,880 affirm, we're we're meeting on August 5th most likely in the morning on Zoom. 753 00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:50,960 » Yeah. Yeah. Just like this. >> Okay. 754 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,359 » All right. >> All right. 755 00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:56,799 » So, that's pretty much it. >> Thank you. 756 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,160 » You're welcome. >> All right. 757 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,760 » Thank you. >> All right. We'll be talking. 758 00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:05,839 » All right. Bye. Take care. Okay. Have a good day. Thank you. 759 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,839 » Okay. Biking.