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Morning everybody.

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Welcome to the committee a whole meeting

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at 9:01. We will open.

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See open mic. Is there anybody for open

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mic this morning?

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Nothing at all. Okay. Thank you.

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Adoption of the agenda.

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Councilor Nielsen.

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Yes, Mr. Chair. Um, I would like to add

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an item

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inspiring governance.

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And I would appreciate it if it could be

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uh placed uh just ahead of the uh

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discussion on council roles and

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responsibilities as it ties to that. So,

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I'd ask that it be put 8.01.

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>> In the agenda.

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» Anything else?

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If not, I'd like to move the committee

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approves the committee the whole agenda

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for August 11th, 2026 as amended.

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All in favor?

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Public hearings,

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nothing. Agenda review

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, the agenda is

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attached and we would be happy to answer

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any questions council has or um look at

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any additions that council would like us

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to put into future meetings.

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>> Councelor White and councelor Hy.

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» Councelor White and councelor Hy.

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>> Uh, through the chair to administration,

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» Uh, through the chair to administration,

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approval at the regular council meeting,

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having received initial input on July

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28th. I would I would if I had enough

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friends in there on there around the

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circle. I think we should revisit it at

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committee of the whole to see what the

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um there was quite quite a few things

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that we wanted adjusted in there and I

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have observed that we're not always

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great at amending policies on the fly in

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a regular council meeting and so I think

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it might serve us well to look at that

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first in a committee of the whole. Yeah,

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I um I think that was just left over

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from the fact that we thought we would

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have two discussions prior to then and

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we would be ready for the approval, but

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because we've brought local improvement

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forward, that totally makes sense. We'll

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change that to cow.

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use policy come up on September 22nd. We

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did we didn't already pass that, did we?

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» No, we didn't. And that was part of the

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um the things that we're working on, but

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with the um leadership change in the

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division, it's one of the things that

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we've pushed off a little bit. And so

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it'll it'll be coming back before the

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end of the year, but just not as soon as

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And my last inquiry is

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agenda review item in in committee of

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the whole, but I was wondering would it

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be possible to have a three or four

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meeting outlook instead of just a two

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meeting outlook?

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Would that fit on a single page?

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there. Uh yeah, we'll work on that.

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>> councelor Oy.

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committee of the whole and it would be

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council organizational meeting procedure

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as well as council renumeration policy.

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bylaws and policies to the

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organizational meeting. Is that soon

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enough for you or

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that meeting actually addressed before

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» Thank you. Anything else?

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something to new business and forgot is

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it too late now.

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something to new business as well.

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Will just be comments. I guess that's

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Nothing else moving forward. So, then we

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Thank you, Mr. Chair. The uh my comments

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this morning are related to uh a topic

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called inspiring governance.

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and I think it's appropriate before we

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discuss discuss council roles and

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responsibilities

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to examine a little bit this concept of

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inspiring governance.

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with a number of, I guess, promises and

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commitments to the community. And then

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when we sat down and we

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did work on our strategic plan,

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we included the item called inspiring

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governance. And I just like to remind

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anyone who's listening of some of the

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words that we put into this particular

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document.

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transparency,

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and improving communication.

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because they all relate to roles and

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responsibilities later on. When I first

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decided to make this commentary,

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I thought I'd maybe it best be placed in

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often times, as we've discussed, an hour

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or two after we've

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closed our meeting, information from

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close session is on social media.

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thought, well, maybe another location I

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could I could make these comments would

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be to call a press conference on the

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but I thought that'd be maybe a little

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true, too dramatic and theatric

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unprofessional.

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make these comments is in this room.

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So to begin with, [clears throat] full

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disclosure,

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we ran for council knowing that it was

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more than a couple of meetings a month.

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that there was other obligations tied to

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it. Some of them are identified in

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council roles and responsibilities.

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we were informed and we agreed to doing

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attendance reports at the end of every

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to provide transparency, something we

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see in inspiring governance,

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transparency to the public about what

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each of us is doing every month in and

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for the city. It was also intended to

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inform each of us what we're all doing

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So, since being elected, nine months

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monthly reports indicating

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what we've done.

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have hit near perfect in their

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reported a single time in nine months. I

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have no idea what my colleagues are

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doing and nor does the public know what

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business cases for budget consideration.

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of our most important activities as a

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large number of submitted

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business cases and administration asked

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identify those that we thought were most

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cost accounting of what it would cost to

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do any of those business cases.

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into that budgetary process by Friday,

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to do mandatory training.

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respectful workplace.

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all of us received an invitation to

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participate in the Samson Pawa.

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for us to build better relationships

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with our community neighbors.

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representation there? Who's attending?

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said he had requested city swag

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for his group of special Olympians

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Olympians going to Medicine Hat for a

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sent a second one, got no reply.

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So, he asked me for some help. Our city

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manager with one day's notice was able

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to come up with some city swag so these

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athletes could take some of Watasma with

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them to this competition

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in medicine hat.

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I hope that we can agree that when we

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talk about rules and responsibilities

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later today, we can solve this kind of

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communication problem.

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I'm sorry to belabor this one.

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City council spent a significant amount

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of time this last year

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recreating

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a better evaluation document of our CEO.

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And in March, which was the deadline we

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set for ourselves,

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we completed that task.

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And based on that evaluation, we offered

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a new contract to the city manager.

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However,

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that evaluation is only complete when we

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assign goals,

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improvement goals for our CEO

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in this process.

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That's all that was missing.

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And we had two meetings

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We spent five and a half hours and

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identified goals for our CEO.

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People were tasked with setting up a

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meeting

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with the city manager to present those

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goals

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and was reminded twice.

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I guess this is the third reminder

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because in consultation with the CEO

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five months later she has not received

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goals.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we are 10 months

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into a 48-month

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term of office.

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This report is intended not to

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embarrass people.

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We've said we are the only group that

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can hold each other accountable for what

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we do around this table.

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The only other people

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are the residents and they can't hold us

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accountable for another three and a half

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years.

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But based on what I've just reported, my

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question to each of us, and I include

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myself in this conversation,

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is if this was a voting year,

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would you vote to put any of us back

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into office based on the track record

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we've demonstrated thus far?

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And my last comment is this.

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None.

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Zero of any of these activities that

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I've reported on have required us to be

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at or in city hall to do that job.

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Everyone who has completed these tasks

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have fulfilled their responsibilities

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from home.

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And even yet,

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we can't get the work done that we

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promised the community that we would do.

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When we get into the conversation on

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roles and responsibilities,

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if we aren't going to commit

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to the task that this community has

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asked us to perform,

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then I think we can skip 8.1 and simply

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move on to another agenda item. I stand

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down, Mr. Chair.

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» Any comments, questions?

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Councelor Billingsley.

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>> Thank you. Through the chair to

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» Thank you. Through the chair to

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councelor Nielsen, thank you for your

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words. I know that it was probably

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incredibly difficult to bring some of

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these things forward. Um, some of the

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things that you talked about, I think,

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as you say, mesh into the next item on

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the agenda.

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And I think that maybe some of the

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things that you spoke about then we can

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address

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in the next item in the agenda.

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Once again, thank you.

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Any questions,

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comments?

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Right. Moving on to 8.1

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roles and responsibilities.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um this has been a

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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um this has been a

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discussion previously in pnt uh with

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council and there was um

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we did consult uh through one of our

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municipal lawyers to get some

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information because technically uh the

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roles and responsibilities of council as

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outlined in the MGA are very high level.

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Um but there is opportunities for

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councils to set um other rules um around

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how um you show up for each other and

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you show up for the community. Um and so

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there there were some examples where

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communities got very detailed but most

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of them stay very high level. So this

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was a little bit new. So we tried to

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highlight where your mandated um roles

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and responsibilities were versus some of

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the discussion that we heard and things

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that you wanted um further flushed out.

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with things like responding to emails

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and um who does what when um that sort

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of thing. So, we've put some stuff in

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here. I I know it's not completely

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exhaustive. Um and there may be some

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examples from other communities that you

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would like us to explore. Um this would

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be I guess an agreement amongst council

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just you know there's there's not going

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to be any legislation around something

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like this but it certainly would be um

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good for everybody to know how you're

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going to show up for each other. Um at

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the end of the report we've linked in

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some existing policies um that probably

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um feed into this as well and we're

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happy to answer any questions and take

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any feedback for next steps that you

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want us to explore.

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Okay. Any questions? Councelor

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Billingsley.

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>> Thank you. Uh through the chair to

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» Thank you. Uh through the chair to

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council. Um going through this document

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over the last few days

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um and then taking a look at other

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municipalities. I'm wondering if there

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isn't

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um

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thoughts I guess of getting a little bit

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more detailed. Um and actually

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specifically saying the responsibility

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of council is this or of the mayor is

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that. Um the only problem is because

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there is no code of conduct. um there's

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not a whole lot of or else and that that

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concerns me. But if we put in what the

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responsibilities are and then once the

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code of conduct is brought forward by um

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the provincial government, it could tie

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back into there and that could be the or

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what. But I think it's really important

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because of some of the things that

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council neielsen brought up in his um

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thoughts earlier um that we write it

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down of what actually our

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responsibilities are and not just high

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level like you shall

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do a committee report you shall do

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training you shall

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and I think that that's very important

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unfortunately like I say there is no

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what happens happens if you don't. But

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that's not something we can control.

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So that's my thoughts on this.

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>> Anyone else?

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» Anyone else?

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Councelor Nielsson then councelor

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Alberly.

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>> Thank you. um to that point

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» Thank you. um to that point

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much of what I talked about in my

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soliloquy

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um spoke about communication

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and to councelor Billingsy's point I I

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think that

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we should be capturing in here some

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expectations

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relative to communication

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um

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and I don't know where it falls I don't

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know it falls under

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a separate heading.

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Um,

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but just as we as a council expect our

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city administration to be be responding

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to issues and questions and emails

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within 48 hours,

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I believe we should be holding ourselves

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to the same standard if we expect that

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from from our administration.

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I believe that we should uh respond to

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emails and texts within 48 hours.

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I'm going to change this a little bit

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and to councelor Billingsy's point about

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u expectations and maybe this is under

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mayor's responsibilities.

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I'd like to see three items added to

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under mayor's responsibilities.

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Number one is respond to emails and

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texts from the community within 48

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hours.

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with a CC to council so we know that

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it's gone.

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That does not

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take any of us off the hook from

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responding to the emails if we are

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identified in those emails, but ensures

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that

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a member of public or the a business

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person trying to reach out to the city

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will get a response from the mayor

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within 48 hours and subsequently may get

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other responses from counselors.

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Also under the same heading,

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I'd like to see that the mayor has some

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responsibility for coordinating council

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attendance at invited events

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so that when we get invited to events um

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like the pow-wow or speaking at the

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chamber meeting or any other function

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that the mayor makes sure

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that there is council representation.

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either through himself or he organizes

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to his best of his ability to ensure

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that someone will be there representing

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the city

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and also under mayor's responsibilities

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respond to council and CAO emails and

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texts also within 48 hours.

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And my last comment on communication is

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I believe

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first and third responsibility

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that I've asked to give to the mayor

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also be assigned to members of council

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that we with we respond to emails and

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texts of the committee within 48 hours

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and we also respond to emails and texts

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from our council colleagues and the CEO

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within 48 hours of receiving them.

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Yeah, sorry.

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>> Okay, councelor. Okay, go ahead.

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» Okay, councelor. Okay, go ahead.

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>> Yeah, just to um councelor Neielson

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» Yeah, just to um councelor Neielson

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talked about from uh emails and texts

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from the CEO. Could we possibly take a

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look at that being administration

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instead? Because there are times when

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some of SLT may send a direct message.

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In fact, it did happen earlier late last

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week that came from someone from SLT had

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asked uh a specific question to council

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or to the mayor.

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>> Absolutely. I you know when I say CEO, I

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» Absolutely. I you know when I say CEO, I

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guess I include leadership team, but I

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appreciate the the clarity.

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Councelor Irely then councelor Hy.

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>> Uh thank you Deputy Mayor Elder. Um

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» Uh thank you Deputy Mayor Elder. Um

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through the chair council I don't

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disagree with anything that councelor

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Nielsen has said and

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I'm really

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I perform much better if I have

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deadlines. So I think everything that

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you've said so far this morning um is

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good for me. My concern with

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going too non- high level, if that is

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the way I want to refer to it, is that

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at what point do we stop adding to this

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list and and that's not meant to be a

566
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,159
criticism. It's just more

567
00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:08,640
a question of

568
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,000
are we at a point where

569
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,760
and this is to all a council. This isn't

570
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,919
just councelor Nelson who has spoken.

571
00:28:15,919 --> 00:28:19,360
Are are we at a point where

572
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:23,120
we need to pick these things out to

573
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:25,679
provide inspiring governance for oursel

574
00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:29,200
because we're in a place that

575
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,520
we're starting to flounder or not even

576
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,679
starting have been flound floundering.

577
00:28:33,679 --> 00:28:37,590
And does this document

578
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,640
truly need to be much longer as a

579
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,279
working document for us

580
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:46,399
or is it just these very few things that

581
00:28:46,399 --> 00:28:49,120
we want to do make sure are

582
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,360
accomplished? I think that's the end of

583
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,120
my comment. Thank you,

584
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,389
>> Council Oily. Then Mayor Brinkle.

585
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:56,399
» Council Oily. Then Mayor Brinkle.

586
00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:58,230
>> Um through the chair to council on

587
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:58,240
» Um through the chair to council on

588
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,399
administration. I agree with all the

589
00:29:00,399 --> 00:29:02,159
points made. I had several additions

590
00:29:02,159 --> 00:29:03,840
that would go in here as far as

591
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,440
attendance reports, committee reports,

592
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,520
training, and while I don't disagree

593
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,480
with councelor Alberly, what I guess I

594
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,440
would say is that we're already seeing

595
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,360
that

596
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,200
what we should be doing is not being

597
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,080
done. And so

598
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,799
while we cannot at this point hold um

599
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:26,640
other

600
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,760
council members to a fire of any kind

601
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,760
because the MGA or the provincial

602
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,960
government has taken that away from us

603
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,760
in this yet to give us something new to

604
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,559
go by. If it's on a piece of paper, I

605
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:40,799
guess for me at least I can say you

606
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,120
agreed to this. It went from you shall

607
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,640
to you will. And if it's as simple as

608
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,559
that, then I guess this document may

609
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:50,480
have to be longer than it is because we

610
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,320
are certainly missing the mark on many

611
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,640
many things that we said we would do and

612
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,679
we should be doing. Uh my next point is

613
00:29:57,679 --> 00:29:59,840
is this something better served in

614
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,600
having a meeting where we can all sit

615
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,159
down and go over this instead of trying

616
00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:11,110
to do it peace meal here in uh cow.

617
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,549
Mayor Bronco.

618
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:18,300
» Thank you, Councelor Elder. Um, I

619
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:19,840
[clears throat] agree one. First of all,

620
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,720
I agree with councelor Billingsley.

621
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,760
The must believe we should have that in

622
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,480
in place. We must do this

623
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,200
accountability. I believe in that. I uh

624
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,320
agreed to councelor Nielsen's u

625
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,120
what he has brought up

626
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,200
but I have a couple questions. one on a

627
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,919
48 hour response. Does that mean when

628
00:30:47,919 --> 00:30:50,880
we're on weekends? Is that 48 hours

629
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,640
working days or weekends? Because some

630
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,360
of us do spend our time with our

631
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,880
families on weekends, tournaments,

632
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,679
parties, weddings. Does that mean if we

633
00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:04,159
get something

634
00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:07,520
on uh on a Friday night, we have to have

635
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,880
it done by Sunday if we're not near or

636
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,000
we're on holidays. So, especially

637
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,600
weekends or long weekends, are we saying

638
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,360
48 hours working days? So, so we need

639
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,640
some clarification on that. And my other

640
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,000
question is looking through the mayor,

641
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,880
it says issue certificates for residents

642
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,480
birthdays, weddings.

643
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,799
Is that really part of our job to give

644
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:40,320
certificates on birthdays and weddings?

645
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,440
There's a lot of people who have

646
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,519
birthdays in our community, 13,000.

647
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,080
So, is that a clerical error? Should

648
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,480
that be removed from there? So, some

649
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,070
some u

650
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,360
some stuff we should look at. I do agree

651
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,399
with councelor Hoy. We need to sit down

652
00:32:00,399 --> 00:32:04,640
and really pick and choose

653
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,039
what we what we want to put down on

654
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:10,559
this. and uh

655
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:12,720
and bring a piece of paper together that

656
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,720
we agree to. Thank you,

657
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,190
>> Councelor Billingsley.

658
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:19,200
» Councelor Billingsley.

659
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,230
>> Thank you. Um to the chair and I guess

660
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:22,240
» Thank you. Um to the chair and I guess

661
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,240
to council in regards to the the

662
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,559
birthdays or the proclamations,

663
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:28,559
um I'm going to guess that probably not

664
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,799
all 13,000 people are going to be um

665
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:32,399
once a year coming in and asking for a

666
00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:34,399
certificate for their birthday. I know I

667
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:37,360
certainly won't be. Um, but I think that

668
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,320
if someone's celebrating a milestone,

669
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,000
whether it's a 100th birthday, whether

670
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,840
it's a 50th wedding anniversary or

671
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,960
anything like that, that um that we

672
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,559
celebrate these things in our community.

673
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:51,519
And I think it is important that we um

674
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:53,600
make note of these things and like I

675
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,000
say, celebrate these things. Um I really

676
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,279
don't think we're going to have very

677
00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:00,320
many requests for um seventh birthdays

678
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,279
or things such as that or someone's 59th

679
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,039
birthday.

680
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:08,559
So, I'm okay with leaving it in there.

681
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,509
>> Any other questions? We've got uh Sue

682
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:11,519
» Any other questions? We've got uh Sue

683
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,760
and then councelor Aberly.

684
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,789
>> Uh thank you. Just to clarify, that was

685
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:16,799
» Uh thank you. Just to clarify, that was

686
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:18,720
taken directly from an existing council

687
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,159
policy. So, if you don't want that in

688
00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:22,240
the policy, it's the authority of the

689
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,360
mayor. Um obviously council can bring

690
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,640
that forward and make changes to it.

691
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,950
>> Councelor Arley.

692
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:30,960
» Councelor Arley.

693
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,310
>> Uh thank you, sir. [clears throat]

694
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:32,320
» Uh thank you, sir. [clears throat]

695
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,870
through the chair to council.

696
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,679
Two questions and the first I'm going to

697
00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:43,120
go to the announcements or the letters

698
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,549
for whatever. Um

699
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,720
I agree that the these are the important

700
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,799
things. These are the small celebrations

701
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,600
and that's part of what community is and

702
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,159
building a community to which you feel

703
00:33:58,159 --> 00:33:59,919
connected.

704
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:04,000
Uh, and then to the 48 hours return. And

705
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,320
I am

706
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,879
as guilty, if not guiltier, on many

707
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:11,359
things as to whether or not I read my

708
00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:13,280
email. I'm pretty good with text, but

709
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,919
email sometimes gets a little bit

710
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:22,159
um, doesn't matter. Email isn't

711
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:26,159
as in my face as it used to be. And I

712
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,399
think that

713
00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:29,919
while

714
00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:32,480
our city administration works Monday to

715
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,960
Friday weeks, we do not work Monday to

716
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,320
Friday. And a request that comes in

717
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,720
Friday night to be answered by Sunday

718
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:45,599
evening is a fair ask.

719
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:49,679
And at no different than if the city

720
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,560
cannot do it, administration cannot

721
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,399
answer the question or the text or the

722
00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:58,240
whatever. The person who has made the

723
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:01,040
question or sent that is told we will

724
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200
not be able to get back to you until. So

725
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,839
at least it's a 48hour

726
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:10,560
window in which somebody has said

727
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,640
I've received your message. I will get

728
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,200
back to you as soon as I can or in that

729
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:20,320
sense. So I'm game for the 48 hours.

730
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,829
>> Okay. Anyone else? I do have a couple

731
00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:23,839
» Okay. Anyone else? I do have a couple

732
00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:26,000
questions.

733
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,359
I agree with pretty much everything

734
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,040
that's been said. I just need some

735
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,800
clarity on something. But I I would like

736
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,320
to

737
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,320
go back to what councelor Hy said where

738
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,400
we just get together as a group and and

739
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,079
get this cleaned up. That would be

740
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:39,680
great.

741
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,960
My next comment or question would be

742
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,119
just clarification. So we get

743
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:52,079
emails to us. My understanding is

744
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,079
we were not to respond to that. We were

745
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:57,599
to send it to the CEO.

746
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,480
So now I'm looking for

747
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,920
clarification. Do you want us to respond

748
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,000
or do you want us to send it and forward

749
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,640
it to the CEO all the time? But that's

750
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,430
where I'm looking for the clarity.

751
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,800
» Uh thank you. For my part, I'm thinking

752
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,990
specifically to

753
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,800
when we are sent an email from somebody

754
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,040
that is asking specifically for

755
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,599
something. So if

756
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:33,040
um and I'll use just because I have not

757
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,119
done my emergency management training

758
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,359
and so I totally feel called out and

759
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:40,720
it's all good. Um if if I when I receive

760
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:42,240
that email instead of thinking to

761
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:45,359
myself, oh do it, I respond with

762
00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:49,920
received thank you within 48 hours. If a

763
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,760
email comes directly to or yes, if an

764
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,320
email comes to

765
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,960
Mayor and counsel,

766
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:04,880
we have 48 hours to respond as mayor and

767
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,440
counsel or forward it if it is questions

768
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,480
that we cannot answer if I'm being asked

769
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,440
a personal question. I know if I get a

770
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,960
letter sent to Karen Aberly,

771
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,839
I respond to that email. Maybe it's

772
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:21,839
having to find more information for

773
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:25,359
them. Maybe it's directing them. I this

774
00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:27,520
is not my job and this these are the

775
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,520
people who look after it. Those sorts of

776
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,920
things. So that so the both

777
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,440
administration or other people wanting

778
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,000
to contact counselors know that we're

779
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,160
getting their emails.

780
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,800
and for administration when they're

781
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,200
sending us things to know that we have

782
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,359
received it. Does that help

783
00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:49,109
>> a little bit? Yeah, we can clarify.

784
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:49,119
» a little bit? Yeah, we can clarify.

785
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:53,990
Thank you, Councelor Billingsley.

786
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,359
» I think that it's um

787
00:37:57,359 --> 00:38:01,359
important that um we don't just

788
00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:03,119
pass the information off for somebody

789
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:06,960
else to respond. Um if somebody's asking

790
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,240
us about a specific operation and since

791
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:12,000
we're governance that's really not us

792
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,760
that certainly would should be passed on

793
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,960
to um administration. But if someone's

794
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,640
saying

795
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,640
my taxes are too high or I need some

796
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,000
pins for um the Special Olympics, um

797
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,440
that's something that we should be

798
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,680
answering and it isn't passed on to

799
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,270
somebody else to answer questions.

800
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,839
Thank you for your email. Um I will find

801
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:42,000
out uh who's in charge of the pins and I

802
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,480
will let you know and then from there I

803
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,240
mean you

804
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,760
Then from there you would get a hold of

805
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,440
administration, find out who is the pin

806
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,839
keeper

807
00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:55,119
and then respond back to

808
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:57,359
the person who sent the email would be

809
00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:01,760
in my opinion the proper procedure.

810
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,390
>> Okay. Anything else?

811
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:04,400
» Okay. Anything else?

812
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:04,950
>> I do.

813
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:04,960
» I do.

814
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,109
>> Mayor Bronco,

815
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:07,119
» Mayor Bronco,

816
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,270
>> thank you. Um,

817
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:09,280
» thank you. Um,

818
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,079
still some more clarification. So on the

819
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:18,240
48 hours uh hypothetical question

820
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:22,079
I go camping and I go with my family and

821
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:28,160
I'm out of range that I can't get uh

822
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,800
I can't get how would you say it?

823
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,359
It won't come in till I hit the area

824
00:39:35,359 --> 00:39:37,680
with Tasco and that could be Sunday

825
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,920
night.

826
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,760
What do we do? And and our our policy uh

827
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,310
I says that we respond,

828
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,079
but our respond is to phone Sue

829
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,079
on a weekend and say, "Can you look at

830
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:58,240
this or do we do it Monday?"

831
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,440
If public, if the city staff is not

832
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,480
working Sunday,

833
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,440
Saturday or Sunday, they work five days

834
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,520
a week.

835
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,560
Why would we burden more city staff and

836
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,880
time and our CEO who's already got

837
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,839
enough on her plate? Why would we keep

838
00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:20,400
phoning her, bombarding you with

839
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:26,710
information until Monday?

840
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:28,800
» Councelor Aberly, then councelor

841
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,680
Nielsen.

842
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,670
>> Uh, thank you through the chair to Mayor

843
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:31,680
» Uh, thank you through the chair to Mayor

844
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,520
Bronco. I appreciate that there are

845
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,680
always circumstances where this

846
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,119
expectation of council andor mayor is

847
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:48,480
not feasible. So I would think sir you

848
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,839
have six deputy mayors depending on

849
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:53,280
every two months if you were going to be

850
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,240
in an area where you would not be able

851
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:58,800
to respond that is the role of the

852
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,200
deputy mayor is to be able to or not be

853
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,760
able to but to fulfill your duties if

854
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,240
you are not around. Um,

855
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,720
so that becomes that deputy mayor's job.

856
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:13,280
And also again, I'll say back to if it

857
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,359
is something that we need specifically

858
00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:18,000
from administration, that is a quick

859
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,280
text or email that says, "Thank you for

860
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,599
your email.

861
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:26,319
I will get the information from you when

862
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:29,119
administration is at work." So, it's not

863
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:32,480
meant to be an ownorous job on us to

864
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,160
find all the information immediately and

865
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,720
make anybody else work when it's not

866
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:44,390
their work hours. It's just meant to be

867
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,839
it's not even common courtesy, but

868
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:47,680
that's the only word I can think of to

869
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,440
just say that yes, we've received your

870
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,040
email and here is the timeline for which

871
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,990
you can expect to hear back from me.

872
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,520
Okay, Councelor Nielsen.

873
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,910
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

874
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:03,920
» Thank you, Mr. Chair.

875
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,319
To Jo Joe's point, I would even be

876
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:09,760
prepared to say two business days

877
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,760
because that's still a far cry better

878
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,200
than how we've been performing to date.

879
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,720
When I'm reporting that people aren't

880
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:18,640
even getting any answers back within

881
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,359
days or weeks or months, I guess two

882
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:24,000
business days is a huge improvement. I

883
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,040
could live with two business days.

884
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,880
Okay. So, I think what I'm getting out

885
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,119
of this, maybe we should have a little

886
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,119
meeting at some point in time. We can

887
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,839
clean this up and we can move on from

888
00:42:35,839 --> 00:42:37,680
where we are right now. Everybody okay

889
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,720
with that?

890
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:40,390
>> I I have another question.

891
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:40,400
» I I have another question.

892
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,270
>> Okay.

893
00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:41,280
» Okay.

894
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,230
>> If I may to councelor

895
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:44,240
» If I may to councelor

896
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:47,440
Aberly, uh, so your suggestion, you keep

897
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,119
saying we have time to notify council.

898
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:53,680
So

899
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,480
sometimes,

900
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,280
and this is what I'm having a conflict

901
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,359
with. So if I want to go camping, I have

902
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:03,200
to notify

903
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,079
the staff or

904
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:07,839
council that I'm going away for a

905
00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:11,200
weekend camping or go someplace with my

906
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,280
wife, I have to notify you that I'm

907
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,990
doing that. Is that what you're asking?

908
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,800
» Uh, thank you, sir. I do think that if

909
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,359
you were in a position where you were

910
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:25,760
going to be out of contact for longer

911
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,720
than out of contact Yep. for longer than

912
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:35,200
48 hours that letting somebody know is

913
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,000
reasonable. I I I'm not talking I'm

914
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,680
going away for the day and there might

915
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,960
not be cell service or internet service.

916
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,000
It's it is the extended times where

917
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,400
there could be something there could be

918
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,990
an emergency even where

919
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,720
the mayor may have to make an immediate

920
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:00,079
decision. And if that is not

921
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,319
if you are not accessible at the time,

922
00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:04,720
all I'm asking is that at at the very

923
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:07,599
least your deputy mayor knows that they

924
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,520
need to

925
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,000
be a little extra on call and that's how

926
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,710
we work together.

927
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:19,520
» Great. Is that good?

928
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,880
There's always going to be an exception

929
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,359
to this, but um I think we can get

930
00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:26,319
together. We'll have a meeting and we'll

931
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:28,880
figure this out.

932
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,000
Council Nielson,

933
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,670
>> just last comment. I your discretion. Go

934
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:33,680
» just last comment. I your discretion. Go

935
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,400
ahead.

936
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,560
There was a comment made earlier and I

937
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,480
apologize. I don't recall who made the

938
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,319
comment with regard to um

939
00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:45,920
currently there's no there's no

940
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,839
sanctions in place in terms of holding

941
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:49,359
ourselves accountable. So, we have to

942
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:51,839
hold ourselves accountable. The other

943
00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:53,920
piece of this though is there will be at

944
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,000
some point I think Sue said there will

945
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,599
be a code of conduct that comes from the

946
00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:00,640
government and that's also what holds us

947
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,800
accountable and so some of the detail

948
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,000
that we put in here allows us to hold

949
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,960
each other accountable. The less the

950
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,880
more ambiguous this document is

951
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,839
I believe the harder it is to hold us

952
00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:18,319
accountable.

953
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:19,920
Hey, councelor Billingsley. And then

954
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,800
we're going to move on.

955
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,069
>> Okay. Thank you. Um,

956
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:24,079
» Okay. Thank you. Um,

957
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:26,800
part of my new, I guess, responsibility

958
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,520
is is MCMC, Midsize Mayor's Caucus, and

959
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,839
this conversation is not totally unique

960
00:45:33,839 --> 00:45:38,160
to WTA. Um many of the um mayors have

961
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,560
were talking about uh taking a look at

962
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,280
the council renumeration policy which

963
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,119
kind of ties back into here because

964
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:50,319
there is no um sanctions or whatifs. Um

965
00:45:50,319 --> 00:45:52,720
they tie it to

966
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,760
I won't say penalizing but not getting

967
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,760
paid because you're not doing the work

968
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,240
that you're been elected to fulfill. So

969
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,079
that is something that we may want to

970
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:05,280
take a look at because other

971
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,920
municipalities certainly are doing that.

972
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,319
They're they're holding each other

973
00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:14,400
accountable through. Okay,

974
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:25,589
great. Thank you. 8.2 policy review.

975
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:30,069
» There you go. Perfect.

976
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:31,680
Hello.

977
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,200
I'm always guessing if this is on.

978
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,000
Hello, council. So, I'm here today

979
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:42,400
because uh policy C 0 no co00007

980
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,560
handling handling of a anonymous

981
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,319
frivolous or vexacious complaints and

982
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:49,680
inquiries was approved in 2022 and as

983
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,800
per this policy its review cycle is

984
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,920
every four years. So, we were we are up

985
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,160
at that four years. So, I'm presenting

986
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,480
it to you today to ask if council has

987
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,920
any feedback on any revisions or updates

988
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,920
they feel the policy needs. At this

989
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,040
time, administration is not recommending

990
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,000
or sees the needs for any revisions or

991
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,480
updates. Um this policy was established

992
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:22,079
um as per best uh best practices

993
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:24,880
um with the procedures and industry

994
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,079
standards. Um and it ensures that

995
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:29,839
complaints and inquiries are handled in

996
00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:32,240
a fair and impartial manner while also

997
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:33,599
protecting the city by limiting

998
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:35,680
anonymous, frivolous and or vexacious

999
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,520
complaints. Complaints of this nature um

1000
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,960
specifically need to be addressed

1001
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,480
because they often require

1002
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,160
disproportionately more resources to

1003
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,520
address than valid complaints or

1004
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,119
inquiries. Um and this can in include

1005
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:52,240
increased employee time or money for

1006
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,880
investigations if they are required. Um

1007
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,400
this is because complaints that fall

1008
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,400
under this policy are defined as

1009
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,720
complaints that [sighs]

1010
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:02,880
um

1011
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,720
they concern an issue which employees

1012
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:06,800
have already investigated and inter

1013
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,680
determined to be groundless. Um they

1014
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,880
bring up a issue

1015
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,119
repeatedly in which an investigation was

1016
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:18,960
already done and handled. Um they try to

1017
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,440
circumvent circumvent the standard

1018
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,000
handling process of complaints.

1019
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,760
um they try to go through multiple

1020
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,520
different employees to get certain

1021
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,680
answers or they just don't like the

1022
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,920
answer they received. Um so that's why

1023
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,599
they take up disproportionately more

1024
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:37,040
time. [sighs] Um

1025
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,920
yeah, so this policy in and of itself

1026
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,000
also has an internal procedure that also

1027
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,319
guides the conduct to ensure that all of

1028
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:47,760
these all all of these complaints are

1029
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,040
well defined in terms of what

1030
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,040
constitutes as a complaint under this

1031
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,520
policy and then also the procedure for

1032
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,400
dealing with it.

1033
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,670
>> Any councelor Nielson? Thank you.

1034
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:59,680
» Any councelor Nielson? Thank you.

1035
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,160
I guess the only um consideration I

1036
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,599
would ask and again uh it's one voice at

1037
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:07,440
the table so I'd need three friends at

1038
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,230
some point um

1039
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:16,160
is that often times we are in the public

1040
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,680
as members of council and we're and

1041
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,640
we're approached by somebody who wants

1042
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,440
to have a conversation with us about a

1043
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,880
concern they have with the city and

1044
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,720
they've sent complaints and nothing's

1045
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:32,160
happened and all the rest of it. Um,

1046
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,040
and my concern is

1047
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,760
the nonresponse could be the very person

1048
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,920
that I'm talking to complaining that

1049
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,160
they haven't received a response and me

1050
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,240
getting into a conversation with them.

1051
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:46,000
Whereas, if I had that information, I

1052
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,640
would simply say, "I'm sorry, your

1053
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,960
response is has not been responded to

1054
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,359
because it falls under this category."

1055
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:55,359
Because I've then been informed about

1056
00:49:55,359 --> 00:49:57,599
it. And it would save that person some

1057
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:00,960
time. would save me time uh in terms of

1058
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,640
entering into a conversation that really

1059
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,040
isn't going to go anywhere. So, I guess

1060
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,400
the only provision I guess I'm saying

1061
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,359
here is that if our administration is is

1062
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:13,599
not responding to vexacious and

1063
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:16,000
frivolous comments that we at least be

1064
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,800
notified of it so we can head it off if

1065
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,119
we happen to be approached in the

1066
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:22,000
community.

1067
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,390
>> Totally. As per the internal directive,

1068
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:24,400
» Totally. As per the internal directive,

1069
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,960
the final step of this uh the procedure

1070
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,119
in terms of handling these complaints is

1071
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:31,440
that council is informed of any of these

1072
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,200
complaints that are received in close

1073
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:33,920
session.

1074
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,270
>> That's part of procedures. Yes.

1075
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:35,280
» That's part of procedures. Yes.

1076
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,710
>> Okay. Thank you,

1077
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:36,720
» Okay. Thank you,

1078
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:38,790
>> councelor Hy.

1079
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:38,800
» councelor Hy.

1080
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,190
>> Sorry, my mic just fell off. Um through

1081
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:41,200
» Sorry, my mic just fell off. Um through

1082
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,359
the chair, this is actually to

1083
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:44,880
administration and it's just a general

1084
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,359
question. We see these policies come up

1085
00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:49,839
uh for review. Is there a procedure or

1086
00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:52,240
process in place so we know when they're

1087
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:56,079
updated? How is that tracked?

1088
00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:59,430
>> I got I got it. Um we Jackie is actually

1089
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:59,440
» I got I got it. Um we Jackie is actually

1090
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,960
developing out um an entire list of

1091
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,720
policies, bylaws, directives, and we're

1092
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,839
bringing them forward. Um

1093
00:51:07,839 --> 00:51:10,160
several of them are well beyond when

1094
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,920
they should have been brought forward.

1095
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,160
And so, um, we've been internally

1096
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,400
discussing, do we bring them forward in

1097
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,880
batches by department or just start

1098
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,119
tackling the most important ones first?

1099
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:22,880
Um, Jackie's gone for a couple of weeks,

1100
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,240
but when she gets back, it's one of the

1101
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:25,680
things that's on her list with her team

1102
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,160
to prioritize to figure out how we're

1103
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,440
going to get the rest of these in front

1104
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,960
of council. And then once we have that

1105
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,559
schedule, there's going to be an

1106
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,160
automatic bring forward date that

1107
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,680
triggers for us so that we know we need

1108
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,200
to bring each one forward.

1109
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,630
>> Perfect. Because that's exactly what I

1110
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:38,640
» Perfect. Because that's exactly what I

1111
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,680
noticed that some of them are

1112
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,559
significantly outdated. Thank you.

1113
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:46,690
>> I guess I'd have one question.

1114
00:51:46,690 --> 00:51:46,700
» I guess I'd have one question.

1115
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:48,000
[clears throat]

1116
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,400
You asked for any updates or changes. Is

1117
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,200
there anything that you see that would

1118
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,280
be needed to change in here? You're the

1119
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,440
ones that deal with this more. So,

1120
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,630
>> not at this time.

1121
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:58,640
» not at this time.

1122
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,349
>> Okay.

1123
00:52:01,349 --> 00:52:01,359
» Okay.

1124
00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:04,870
Any other questions?

1125
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,510
Thank you.

1126
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,520
Okay. Moving on. 8.3

1127
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:23,829
inter intergovernmental affairs policy.

1128
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:26,559
» Good morning, council. Uh my name is

1129
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,160
Karen Body. I'm the intergovernmental

1130
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,680
affairs coordinator and executive

1131
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,559
assistant for the city of Watasquin. Um

1132
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:36,319
I was just here in July to review um our

1133
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:38,559
policy with council. Um some of the

1134
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:40,640
discussions that we had um was adding

1135
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,359
the de the definition of administration.

1136
00:52:43,359 --> 00:52:45,359
Uh further clarified expectations of

1137
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:47,280
procedures and we had a little bit of a

1138
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,800
discussion of um what it would look like

1139
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,400
um if we included outside agencies um in

1140
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,920
this policy and just kind of beef that

1141
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,559
up a little bit. So, um I'm working with

1142
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,200
our city's consultant on this item

1143
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,839
currently and later on when we discuss

1144
00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:06,640
our government relations plan um in

1145
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,359
close session. Um I'll be able to get a

1146
00:53:09,359 --> 00:53:11,119
little bit more into details with that

1147
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:13,680
as well. So, that is my update for this

1148
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,000
report at this time. Uh if you have any

1149
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,549
questions, I'm open to feedback.

1150
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:22,319
» Councelor Oyle.

1151
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:24,870
>> Thank you through the chair to uh

1152
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:24,880
» Thank you through the chair to uh

1153
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,359
Kieran. I just have one question and

1154
00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:31,200
it's on page 16 2.1 and D it says inform

1155
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,200
CEO of meetings and all interactions. Um

1156
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,760
what does it exactly say here? Inform

1157
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,119
the city manager of meetings or

1158
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:40,640
communications with senior government

1159
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,480
officials to support coordination,

1160
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,040
briefing and follow-up.

1161
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,200
Are we literally talking about all? I

1162
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,200
just want it to be very clear. So, if I

1163
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,920
have a general conversation with our

1164
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,680
local MLA at a coffee shop and anything

1165
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,520
city-wise is brought up, that should be

1166
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,520
brought to the CEO. Am I correct?

1167
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,829
>> Um, through the chair to uh councelor

1168
00:54:01,829 --> 00:54:01,839
» Um, through the chair to uh councelor

1169
00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:04,079
Hoy, yes, that would be our preference.

1170
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:06,240
Uh, if that is possible, it is always

1171
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:08,160
nice to know when we are building uh

1172
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,040
relationships with our MLAs or just any

1173
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,559
uh members of the provincial government

1174
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:14,720
or local government. Uh it just helps us

1175
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,559
to keep track and and it's good to know

1176
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:18,640
that we do get to have some facetime uh

1177
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,880
with our MLAs. Um sometimes that's very

1178
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,880
rare for some municipalities and we're

1179
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,839
pretty lucky to have our MLA um um that

1180
00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:30,480
we have. So yes, anytime that we do hear

1181
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,160
um that would be great. Perfect. Thank

1182
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,240
you so much,

1183
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:39,190
>> Councelor White.

1184
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,839
» Thank you. through the chair to Karen in

1185
00:54:41,839 --> 00:54:42,559
the definition

1186
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:44,230
>> microphone on

1187
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:44,240
» microphone on

1188
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:45,270
>> it is sorry

1189
00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:45,280
» it is sorry

1190
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,549
>> through the chair to Karen uh regarding

1191
00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:48,559
» through the chair to Karen uh regarding

1192
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:51,920
the definitions I had a question

1193
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,599
regarding the term council

1194
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:59,119
what's written says means a duly elected

1195
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:03,280
member of the city of council but as I

1196
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,440
read the policy it generally is looks

1197
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,200
like it's referring to council as a

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00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,480
whole

1199
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,150
>> is is the intention in the definition to

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00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:14,160
» is is the intention in the definition to

1201
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,040
be individual counselors or council as a

1202
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,920
whole.

1203
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,430
>> That's an excellent question.

1204
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:21,440
» That's an excellent question.

1205
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,750
>> Maybe maybe it could be both. Maybe both

1206
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:23,760
» Maybe maybe it could be both. Maybe both

1207
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,240
could be defined or or the definition

1208
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:27,839
could be refined to clarify.

1209
00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:29,990
>> Okay, I can I'll take this back and take

1210
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:30,000
» Okay, I can I'll take this back and take

1211
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,160
a look and see what the other policies

1212
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,480
uh say if it's repetitive throughout all

1213
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,240
or if it's just for this one. I can make

1214
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:38,240
sure it's uh at least standardized

1215
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:48,069
across all of our policies.

1216
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:53,109
» Any other questions?

1217
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:59,829
» Thank you. Appreciate that.

1218
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:02,960
» So 8.4 Four, quarterly financial report

1219
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:15,030
as of June 2026.

1220
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,839
» Good morning, council. My name is BC.

1221
00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:21,680
I'm the acting finance manager and I'm

1222
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,559
here to present the quarter 2 update,

1223
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:27,680
financial update. Um, and this report

1224
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,799
provides a media overview of the city's

1225
00:56:30,799 --> 00:56:33,920
2026 operating results by comparing the

1226
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,480
approved operating budget with actual

1227
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,000
activity from January 1 to June 30.

1228
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,720
Because June 30 marks the halfway point

1229
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,280
of the year, the 50%

1230
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,000
benchmark would be a useful reference.

1231
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,319
However, some revenues and expenses are

1232
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:52,640
timing related and will be recorded

1233
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,559
later in the year. As of June 30, the

1234
00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:59,599
city reported an overall net operating

1235
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:04,079
surplus of approximately $13.5 million.

1236
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,480
Revenues totaled approximately $33

1237
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,880
million, which is 65% of the budget,

1238
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,000
while expenses totaled approximately

1239
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,440
$19.5 million, which is equivalent to

1240
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,599
38.4% of the budget. Overall, the city

1241
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:23,760
is in a favorable position at the end of

1242
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,000
the second quarter.

1243
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,480
Revenue exceeds the midyear benchmark

1244
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,760
largely because the 2026 property taxes

1245
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,640
were levied in June. other revenues such

1246
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,319
as the LG FF operating grant, annual

1247
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:40,640
enforcement grant, intermunicipal

1248
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,960
collaboration framework with the county

1249
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,119
of wet screen and the return on

1250
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:47,280
investment from PIS utilities are

1251
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,480
expected to be recorded between Q3 and

1252
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,079
Q4.

1253
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,079
I also want to highlight some variances

1254
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,880
relating to expenses. Contracted

1255
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,440
services budgeted approved for several

1256
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,839
operating budgets projects rather are

1257
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:04,319
ongoing and the expenses will be

1258
00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:09,440
recorded as it went due. RCMP are 21% of

1259
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,000
the budget primarily because the Q2

1260
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,040
invoice is yet to be received.

1261
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,160
City administration has spent 73% of its

1262
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,680
budget due to legal expenses. Archives

1263
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,799
are at 83% of budget due to heritage

1264
00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:27,760
museum and the annual insurance payment.

1265
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,079
All other departments are trending as

1266
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:31,839
expected.

1267
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:33,440
The market value of the city's

1268
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,240
investment is approximately $13.8

1269
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,160
million. This includes $4.4 4 million

1270
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,359
committed to future liability on wet

1271
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:48,000
wetin sanitary landfill and $9.3 million

1272
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,440
in general investments with CIBC. The

1273
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,319
total interest earned to date is about

1274
00:58:54,319 --> 00:58:57,430
$218,000.

1275
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,839
The city received $48,974

1276
00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:07,280
for body one cameras and $5,764

1277
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,799
for the fire services training program.

1278
00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:12,400
Administration also reviewed the

1279
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,720
building building community strong fund

1280
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,720
during the quarter. As of June 2026, the

1281
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,599
total reserve balance is $27.6 million.

1282
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:28,079
Of this amount, $4 million has

1283
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:30,079
previously been committed to existing

1284
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:33,599
projects, leaving $23.6 million

1285
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:36,720
currently uncommitted.

1286
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,720
The city remains on track with its

1287
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,280
approved 2026 operating budget as of

1288
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,240
June 30 and administration will continue

1289
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,960
to monitor key revenue and expense

1290
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,920
areas. Thank you. And I'll be happy to

1291
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,200
answer any questions.

1292
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,030
>> Any questions? Councelor Hoy, then

1293
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:53,040
» Any questions? Councelor Hoy, then

1294
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,119
councelor Nielsen.

1295
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:56,480
Um, good morning. Thank you for your

1296
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,280
report. I have a few. Uh, I'll just

1297
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,200
start at the top and this may be for

1298
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,040
administration generally. I'm not really

1299
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,359
sure. You state that city administ spent

1300
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:08,720
73% of its legal budget which trending

1301
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,960
would mean we are going to be 46% over

1302
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,200
our legal budget. What does that look

1303
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,960
like going forward and why I guess and

1304
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,480
what's going to happen?

1305
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,789
>> Uh, through the chair to Oh, sorry. It's

1306
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:22,799
» Uh, through the chair to Oh, sorry. It's

1307
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:24,400
cow. We don't need to be formal. I keep

1308
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,000
forgetting. Um we we are over on our

1309
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,559
legal budget right now because of a um

1310
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:35,599
case that was unexpected and we are

1311
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:37,119
looking at options for that to

1312
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:38,799
potentially be covered now through

1313
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:39,920
insurance.

1314
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,870
>> Kate, thank you. Um investments. Can you

1315
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:42,880
» Kate, thank you. Um investments. Can you

1316
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,359
explain to me the investments? Um who

1317
01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:46,960
decides where they invest and who

1318
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,520
monitors that? I'm assuming that they

1319
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,640
are uh operating budget capital budget

1320
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,559
that don't aren't needed till later in

1321
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:57,280
the year. But who monitors that and how

1322
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,319
does that work?

1323
01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:02,470
>> Through the chair to councelor Hy. Um

1324
01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:02,480
» Through the chair to councelor Hy. Um

1325
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,079
finance monitors our investments. Um we

1326
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:08,559
have investments currently with CIBC

1327
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:12,559
Wood Gandhi. Um and the goal ideally is

1328
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:15,359
to ensure that our total amount invested

1329
01:01:15,359 --> 01:01:18,160
aligns with our reserves. We're not

1330
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,640
there yet. Um we do invest to ensure we

1331
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,680
get the best interest

1332
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,480
um interest revenue and we do budget for

1333
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,400
the interest revenue in our operating

1334
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,200
budget as well. We also report on our

1335
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,839
investments quarterly in our quarterly

1336
01:01:33,839 --> 01:01:36,640
financial updates to council.

1337
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,030
>> Thank you. So then Tulu do you monitor

1338
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:39,040
» Thank you. So then Tulu do you monitor

1339
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,359
that or do you and your team how does I

1340
01:01:41,359 --> 01:01:44,000
guess the monitoring who looks at um

1341
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,440
where to move them where to put them

1342
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,280
where return on investment I guess is

1343
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,119
what I'm looking for more so who

1344
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:51,040
actually does that

1345
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,430
>> so in terms of monitoring I do that my

1346
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:55,440
» so in terms of monitoring I do that my

1347
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,520
our team the finance team does that in

1348
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,920
terms of the decision making that's

1349
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,520
actually part of the city manager's

1350
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,640
bylaw Sue has the um so say we wanted to

1351
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,359
sell an investment and reinvest it. Um

1352
01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:10,319
Sue gives the say um on you can go

1353
01:02:10,319 --> 01:02:12,240
ahead. We do look at recommendations. I

1354
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,760
give her the explanations and the

1355
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,480
background and she um then says you can

1356
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,799
go ahead or um hold off. We need to

1357
01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:19,359
review.

1358
01:02:19,359 --> 01:02:21,349
>> Perfect. Um another question. The

1359
01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:21,359
» Perfect. Um another question. The

1360
01:02:21,359 --> 01:02:27,760
landfill. Um so we have a $4 million uh

1361
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,240
where does that say? I can't. So there's

1362
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,319
an investment amount. Oh, here we go.

1363
01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:35,520
4.4 million. Is that over and above the

1364
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,119
1.38 in reserves

1365
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:41,839
for the landfill? It's under investment

1366
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:45,440
balance. So, we've got 4.48 committed

1367
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,760
towards paying off future liability for

1368
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,589
this landfill.

1369
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:55,280
It is the the it's a portion thereof.

1370
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,760
So, it's that 4.4 for is specifically

1371
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,960
for the landfill liability which we we

1372
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,559
have a liability on our financial

1373
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:05,359
statements for landfill liability. The

1374
01:03:05,359 --> 01:03:08,559
reserves amount that you have is not a

1375
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:09,520
part of that.

1376
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,750
>> So then so then this liability is a

1377
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:11,760
» So then so then this liability is a

1378
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,680
future liability or a current

1379
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,230
>> through the chair to councelor. Oh sorry

1380
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:16,240
» through the chair to councelor. Oh sorry

1381
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:16,870
>> no worries.

1382
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:16,880
» no worries.

1383
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,910
>> That is correct.

1384
01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:17,920
» That is correct.

1385
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:18,549
>> Okay. Thank you.

1386
01:03:18,549 --> 01:03:18,559
» Okay. Thank you.

1387
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:20,549
>> It is future liability.

1388
01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:20,559
» It is future liability.

1389
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:22,470
>> So that is independent of the reserve

1390
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:22,480
» So that is independent of the reserve

1391
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:23,440
then. Correct.

1392
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:24,230
>> That's correct.

1393
01:03:24,230 --> 01:03:24,240
» That's correct.

1394
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,069
>> Okay. I think I have one more question.

1395
01:03:26,069 --> 01:03:26,079
» Okay. I think I have one more question.

1396
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:29,599
Um, taxation and grants, it's minus 3%.

1397
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:31,520
Am I to assume that's because we haven't

1398
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,880
collected all that tax yet?

1399
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:35,589
>> Um,

1400
01:03:35,589 --> 01:03:35,599
» Um,

1401
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:37,349
>> page 24.

1402
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:37,359
» page 24.

1403
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:40,549
>> We've collected more. We've in the

1404
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:40,559
» We've collected more. We've in the

1405
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:43,760
revenue amount exceeds the budget

1406
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,029
>> minus 3%.

1407
01:03:45,029 --> 01:03:45,039
» minus 3%.

1408
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,349
>> Yeah, this has not this does not have

1409
01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:47,359
» Yeah, this has not this does not have

1410
01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:49,920
anything to do with actually collected.

1411
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,230
>> And one more quick question. So also

1412
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:52,240
» And one more quick question. So also

1413
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,839
under

1414
01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:55,359
uh let me just find it so I know what

1415
01:03:55,359 --> 01:03:57,119
I'm talking about. It's under expenses

1416
01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:58,960
and under a variance of analysis it

1417
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,359
talks about annual insurance payment.

1418
01:04:01,359 --> 01:04:03,200
This is due to an annual transfer

1419
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,039
relating to heritage festival and annual

1420
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:07,440
insurance payment.

1421
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,920
Whose annual insurance payment is that

1422
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,720
for? in the context of what you've

1423
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,599
referred to that was for archives but as

1424
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:17,760
a whole we pay our entire insurance for

1425
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,920
the whole year upfront in

1426
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,829
>> but it's just in reference to archives

1427
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:21,839
» but it's just in reference to archives

1428
01:04:21,839 --> 01:04:22,720
not the museum

1429
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,109
>> in in that in in that context I

1430
01:04:25,109 --> 01:04:25,119
» in in that in in that context I

1431
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,510
>> perfect thank you thank you so much to

1432
01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:27,520
» perfect thank you thank you so much to

1433
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:27,839
welcome

1434
01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:29,270
>> councelor Nielson

1435
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:29,280
» councelor Nielson

1436
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,710
>> and mayor Bronco

1437
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:32,720
» and mayor Bronco

1438
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,870
>> through the chair BC um first off thank

1439
01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:36,880
» through the chair BC um first off thank

1440
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:42,390
you for the report this is uh one of the

1441
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,799
complete ones I've seen in some time.

1442
01:04:44,799 --> 01:04:47,119
So, thank you for that. My questions are

1443
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:50,640
related to the variance analysis. Um,

1444
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,039
and I'm I'm I'm curious about a couple

1445
01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:54,799
things here. Number one is under

1446
01:04:54,799 --> 01:04:58,319
archives. Um, I'm looking at 83% of the

1447
01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:00,960
budget spent. So, do we give them a lump

1448
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,880
sum of dollars then?

1449
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,150
>> Yes, that's

1450
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:04,160
» Yes, that's

1451
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,750
>> okay. And we give it's all upfront

1452
01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:05,760
» okay. And we give it's all upfront

1453
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,119
money, so to speak.

1454
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:09,349
>> Okay. Thank you. Um the other one is in

1455
01:05:09,349 --> 01:05:09,359
» Okay. Thank you. Um the other one is in

1456
01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:13,599
the area of airport and

1457
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:16,160
utilities. Airport uh representing we

1458
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,559
spent uh 16% of the budget and utilities

1459
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:24,240
1% and help me understand those two if

1460
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:25,520
you could please.

1461
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,109
>> Okay.

1462
01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:27,119
» Okay.

1463
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:29,920
Throw the chair to councelor Wilson.

1464
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,880
Okay. So for airports it's basically

1465
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,960
transfers for tangible capital assets

1466
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,200
which will be recorded at year end. So

1467
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,280
they are not actual expenses.

1468
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,309
>> Thank you.

1469
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:44,319
» Thank you.

1470
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:47,029
>> For for did you say utilities?

1471
01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:47,039
» For for did you say utilities?

1472
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:48,230
>> Utilities.

1473
01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:48,240
» Utilities.

1474
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,789
>> Yeah. The same thing for utilities.

1475
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:50,799
» Yeah. The same thing for utilities.

1476
01:05:50,799 --> 01:05:51,510
>> Same thing.

1477
01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:51,520
» Same thing.

1478
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,109
>> Yes.

1479
01:05:53,109 --> 01:05:53,119
» Yes.

1480
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:54,150
>> TCAs.

1481
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:54,160
» TCAs.

1482
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:54,549
>> Yes.

1483
01:05:54,549 --> 01:05:54,559
» Yes.

1484
01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:59,270
>> Okay. Thank you.

1485
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,640
That's it for me. Thank you,

1486
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,950
>> Mayor Bronco.

1487
01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:02,960
» Mayor Bronco.

1488
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,950
>> Thank you to the chair to obvious

1489
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:06,960
» Thank you to the chair to obvious

1490
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,599
um

1491
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:13,359
revenue and expenses. Does grants go

1492
01:06:13,359 --> 01:06:16,319
under the heading revenue? Does that

1493
01:06:16,319 --> 01:06:20,319
include say we were to get $5 million

1494
01:06:20,319 --> 01:06:23,440
uh grant would that be under revenue or

1495
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,400
is that a special different?

1496
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,349
>> That's correct. it's under revenue then

1497
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:29,359
» That's correct. it's under revenue then

1498
01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:32,240
again it depends if the grant is a

1499
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,880
conditional grant or unconditional

1500
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,280
grant. So if it's a conditional grant it

1501
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,839
will reflect in a revenue when it is

1502
01:06:39,839 --> 01:06:42,319
spent. But if it's unconditional

1503
01:06:42,319 --> 01:06:44,400
regardless of it being spent or not it

1504
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,039
will be recorded as revenue.

1505
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:49,910
>> Thank you.

1506
01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:49,920
» Thank you.

1507
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,750
>> Any further questions?

1508
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,400
» Great. Thank you very much.

1509
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:02,630
Thank you.

1510
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:08,710
» 8.5 corporate business plan.

1511
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,200
» Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1512
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,599
Uh so on March 26th of this year,

1513
01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:16,960
council approved the 2026 to 2029

1514
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,920
strategic plan. Uh within that plan,

1515
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,760
there were four pillars and each pillar

1516
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,359
has three goals. Uh and then there are

1517
01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:27,599
nine indicators of success for each of

1518
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,480
the pillars as well. Uh my team sat down

1519
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,559
with uh the consultant that worked with

1520
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:34,400
council to develop out the strategic

1521
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,839
plan and we took those indicators of

1522
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:40,880
success and developed out 15 initiatives

1523
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,319
that are now going to become a part of

1524
01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:46,079
the corporate business plan. Um the

1525
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:48,640
first thing I want to do in your package

1526
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,119
um is the old corporate business plan. I

1527
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:52,880
just want to go through that really

1528
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,760
quickly high level. So there were 28

1529
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,520
projects that were identified within the

1530
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,559
last um corporate business plan. 10 of

1531
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:03,359
those have been completed. Uh 14 were

1532
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:05,200
ongoing or have become a part of our

1533
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,520
operations um and will continue to be

1534
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,160
ongoing. One of them was cancelled and

1535
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,640
three have been moved to our new um

1536
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,280
corporate business plan.

1537
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,440
We are doing it a little bit differently

1538
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:21,679
this year. I am going to share my

1539
01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:24,480
screen

1540
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:28,950
so that I can walk you through

1541
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,359
what the new corporate business plan

1542
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:34,640
looks like. So this is our online system

1543
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,040
with clearoint strategies. You've seen

1544
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,239
the reports that come out of this system

1545
01:08:40,239 --> 01:08:42,719
um for the capital updates and operating

1546
01:08:42,719 --> 01:08:44,960
updates, but this is specific to the

1547
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,960
corporate business plan. So, we have um

1548
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,040
sorry, I'm just moving my screen around.

1549
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,279
Um we have copied over council's mission

1550
01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:56,880
and vision and your values

1551
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,600
um from your plan

1552
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,679
and then we have looked at each of your

1553
01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:05,440
goals and then um your indicators of

1554
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:07,759
success and then we have what we've

1555
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:10,400
called administrative tactics. we've

1556
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,640
come up with. There's usually three, but

1557
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,920
in some there are four um initiatives

1558
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,839
that we think are going to help um

1559
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:21,759
achieve your goals. And some of these

1560
01:09:21,759 --> 01:09:25,279
initiatives uh cross pillars. So, we do

1561
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:28,080
believe that some of these um items that

1562
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,000
we're going to take on uh will serve

1563
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,560
more than one purpose. uh we've gone in

1564
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,560
and and initially looked at some of

1565
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,480
these things uh like I said were carried

1566
01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:38,560
from the old plan or or are things that

1567
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,199
we've already started on. Um and I've

1568
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:44,000
gone in and done a quick update on um

1569
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,440
what that looks like. So um this is also

1570
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:49,279
going to be available on our website so

1571
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:51,279
the public can access at any time and

1572
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:54,480
council can access at any time as well.

1573
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:56,960
We would be looking for feedback from

1574
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,960
council although the corporate business

1575
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,320
plan isn't something that council

1576
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:01,760
approves. is we do want to make sure

1577
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,440
that we're um we're hitting your

1578
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:06,800
thoughts on how we're going to be

1579
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,719
successful, what those indicators of

1580
01:10:08,719 --> 01:10:11,520
success are. So, in your area of

1581
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,560
economic prosperity, we've said that um

1582
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,440
we need to build out a land strategy

1583
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:20,000
that supports um development that is one

1584
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,440
that was in our old corporate business

1585
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:25,453
plan and we've moved that forward. Um

1586
01:10:25,453 --> 01:10:26,560
[clears throat]

1587
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:27,840
we've talked about creating an

1588
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,400
investment and attraction plan. uh

1589
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,400
reducing barriers to development,

1590
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,480
improving processes, enabling investment

1591
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:36,640
momentum and then updating the tax

1592
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,640
strategy that was also from our previous

1593
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,480
plan. So the tax strategy model was

1594
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:44,480
completed but with the changes to the

1595
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:46,480
reserve policy we have to rerun the

1596
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,640
model with the new policy before we can

1597
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,040
um present any of that to council. So as

1598
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,199
soon as that reserve policy is finalized

1599
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:56,560
uh finance will be bringing that back

1600
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,120
in environment and infrastructure. Uh

1601
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,280
we've talked about our asset management

1602
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:02,960
which was a huge discussion with council

1603
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,800
during your corporate or sorry during

1604
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,640
your uh strategic goals planning

1605
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,360
session. Increased participation through

1606
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,920
citizen-led initiatives and campaigns

1607
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,480
and then increase community standards um

1608
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:17,520
cleanliness um through education etc.

1609
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:18,800
I'm just going to click on one of them

1610
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,360
so that you can see what you would find

1611
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,880
if you were to click into this

1612
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,679
particular one. So the description is

1613
01:11:25,679 --> 01:11:29,040
carried forward. Um,

1614
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,199
and then

1615
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:32,719
I don't know why. Oh, I think we put

1616
01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:34,719
Ryan on that because it it has to do

1617
01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:36,320
with garbage cans. And then if you

1618
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:37,600
scroll down, you can see what our

1619
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,120
progress to date is. So, we have a draft

1620
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,320
um bench and trash policy that we're

1621
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,080
looking at internally that'll hopefully

1622
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,159
be presented to council at some point.

1623
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:50,640
Um, part of what we're thinking is that

1624
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,719
we have a lot of garbage cans and and

1625
01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:54,880
things that are along um, Main Street

1626
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,800
and in our parks, but we have none on

1627
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,960
the auto mile or anywhere else in the

1628
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:00,400
community. And so, if we can come up

1629
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,480
with a strategy, I think in the draft

1630
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:04,320
policy, we have something like every 400

1631
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,719
meters there will be a garbage can and a

1632
01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:09,280
and a bench. Um, then we can place them

1633
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,840
strategically where uh, people won't

1634
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,920
have to walk miles before they find a

1635
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,960
garbage can. um

1636
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,719
we talk about um efficiencies and how

1637
01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:22,880
we're doing things. So um I've had a

1638
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,920
recent discussion with um the operations

1639
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,679
crew.

1640
01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:30,880
We used to load the lawnmowers and drive

1641
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,400
to places and we thought that wasn't

1642
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,239
very efficient. So we had them driving

1643
01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:36,080
in the lawnmowers to the places. The

1644
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,000
teams reviewed the GPS and said it's

1645
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,440
actually more efficient to load them

1646
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:41,120
onto the trailers and drag them around.

1647
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,199
So, we're using the technology that we

1648
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:45,520
have to look for efficiencies and how we

1649
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,360
can get to the parks quicker and and

1650
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,840
keep them maintained better. Um, and

1651
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,440
then of course we have our cultivate our

1652
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:52,800
community program in place. So, that's

1653
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,239
like a partners and park thing that

1654
01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:56,480
we're going to be uh pushing out a lot

1655
01:12:56,480 --> 01:12:58,560
more. Uh, we talk about what the next

1656
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,440
steps are and then um how much of this

1657
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:04,960
we've completed. So each of these items

1658
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:09,679
um you can click into and um and get a

1659
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:14,080
real-time update. So

1660
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,600
um

1661
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,760
yeah, and it that that has happened for

1662
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,280
all four pillars and all of the

1663
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,120
initiatives. Um I won't go through each

1664
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,360
one of them. Um I'm sure those of you

1665
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,120
that clicked into it had a good look

1666
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,560
around and I'd be happy to answer any

1667
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:27,920
questions that you might have or take

1668
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,430
any feedback.

1669
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:33,679
Any questions?

1670
01:13:33,679 --> 01:13:36,000
Councelor Nielsen,

1671
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:40,070
then councelor White.

1672
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,270
Um

1673
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:47,199
my first comment will be my last note.

1674
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:53,430
Um

1675
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:56,880
and it has to do with metrics, Sue. Um

1676
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,440
and um I'd like some of my other

1677
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:00,640
colleagues spend an awful lot of time

1678
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,400
looking last year's strategic plan

1679
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,080
instead of this year's strategic plan.

1680
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,480
But uh aside from that, I did finally

1681
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:10,080
get caught up. Um but what I noticed in

1682
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:14,080
the metrics and um

1683
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:19,600
in in the last metrics um they were a

1684
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,000
lot of them were very uh subjective in

1685
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,760
nature. Uh the public will feel better.

1686
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,440
uh the city will believes it's doing

1687
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:33,679
this a lot a lot of that and I guess

1688
01:14:33,679 --> 01:14:35,280
what I would like to do is I would like

1689
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,520
to challenge administration

1690
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,080
to start building more objective

1691
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,239
measures into their document. Um

1692
01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:48,239
and to that end

1693
01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:51,840
I'm not saying that everything has to be

1694
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,880
uh objective in nature

1695
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,920
but I think uh having objective measures

1696
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,520
or metrics uh

1697
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,199
provides a clearer picture of

1698
01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:08,400
rates of success or nonsuccess. So, as I

1699
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,840
say, I'm I would simply challenge some

1700
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,640
of those metrics to be more objective

1701
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:19,199
and less subjective. Um,

1702
01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:22,640
and I'm really slow to the race because

1703
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,080
um I read the document. I didn't I

1704
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,920
didn't notice that I could click in and

1705
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,640
go down two or three levels to get more

1706
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:35,280
data. So, some of my notes um

1707
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,920
some of my questions may be answered by

1708
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,320
going deeper into the document you

1709
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,159
provided and I'll have to go back and do

1710
01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:48,550
some further homework. But, um

1711
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,239
I'm

1712
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:52,560
interested in

1713
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,960
inspiring governance. I spoke about it

1714
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,040
earlier today

1715
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,199
and

1716
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:01,440
within the

1717
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:04,080
document itself

1718
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:05,760
there are no actions. It says council

1719
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,199
demonstrates professional, respectful,

1720
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:10,080
accountable leadership. Um so is that

1721
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,000
something

1722
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,719
that

1723
01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:19,669
you're leaving totally in our hands?

1724
01:16:19,679 --> 01:16:21,199
That's a bit loaded. I'm sorry, but

1725
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:22,640
that's the only way I think you can put

1726
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,120
it. It's an interesting one because when

1727
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,800
I originally went through inspiring

1728
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,320
governance, I'm like, "Oh, this is all

1729
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,760
council." Um, but really when we took a

1730
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,440
little bit of a deeper dive, there's

1731
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:34,960
there's not like there's some corporate

1732
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:36,960
business plan, maybe some um operating

1733
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,400
business cases that we could put

1734
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:43,120
through. Um, we've had

1735
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,719
while I do think that council is

1736
01:16:44,719 --> 01:16:46,480
responsible for the direction that is

1737
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:48,000
set, I think there's a lot that we can

1738
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,920
do in here. So, we talked about um try

1739
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,600
and pick one that I've got a bit more

1740
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,120
done on. [snorts] Um

1741
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,400
the establish clear communication um

1742
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,000
routines that reduce confusion and

1743
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,360
improve transparency was one of those.

1744
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,800
So within that, we've looked at update

1745
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,640
the city website for ease of access by

1746
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,480
residents and businesses with key

1747
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:14,080
information, draft communication

1748
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,600
strategies to deal with miss and

1749
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,120
disinformation,

1750
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:18,320
increase budget engagement

1751
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,159
opportunities, and ensure consistency

1752
01:17:20,159 --> 01:17:22,960
and language is used across engagement

1753
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,199
and communications. We talked about some

1754
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:27,520
of the next steps that we need to do. So

1755
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,280
adding the customer service matrix to

1756
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,679
our city website so that everybody can

1757
01:17:31,679 --> 01:17:33,280
really serve themselves rather than

1758
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,880
trying to wait to get through to someone

1759
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,600
to answer their questions. Um develop

1760
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,120
communication protocols for all

1761
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,120
employees once gaps are identified and

1762
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,719
filled. Um and then create a continuous

1763
01:17:44,719 --> 01:17:47,520
improvement plan um for this strategy.

1764
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,320
So, we've dug in a bit deeper and I can

1765
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:51,600
understand I probably should have

1766
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,159
clarified that um when I said just click

1767
01:17:54,159 --> 01:17:56,080
on the link that you could have gone a

1768
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,920
little bit deeper in this. So, while a

1769
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,080
lot of it does

1770
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,080
call for council's leadership, I do

1771
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,280
think there's a lot of things that we

1772
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,760
can do within here including like a

1773
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,600
citizen satisfaction survey which we're

1774
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,960
putting through an operating business

1775
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,400
case on. So, um, and and even updating

1776
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,159
our RFDs so that we can show you if the

1777
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:18,480
RFD that you're talking about that day

1778
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:20,480
actually has a link to your strategic

1779
01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:23,440
plan. Not just a weak link, but is it

1780
01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:25,600
actually identified um, within your plan

1781
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,080
so that you can start to tailor your

1782
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,520
conversations to make sure that we're

1783
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:30,800
only talking about the things that are

1784
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,040
most important to council most of the

1785
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,239
time.

1786
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:37,270
>> Does that answer your question?

1787
01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:37,280
» Does that answer your question?

1788
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,679
Um,

1789
01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:42,149
>> yeah, for the most part I I think it

1790
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:42,159
» yeah, for the most part I I think it

1791
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:44,239
does. Um, obviously I've got to go back

1792
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:47,120
and do a deeper dive into this document

1793
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,360
than I than I did initially.

1794
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,030
>> We could we could bring this back again

1795
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:51,040
» We could we could bring this back again

1796
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,440
if council wants to look like go into

1797
01:18:53,440 --> 01:18:54,880
each of those and have a look and then

1798
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,719
just say, "Yeah, I agree with these, but

1799
01:18:56,719 --> 01:18:58,239
how how are you going to actually

1800
01:18:58,239 --> 01:18:59,280
achieve this?" Am

1801
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:00,790
>> I the only [snorts] one that didn't do

1802
01:19:00,790 --> 01:19:00,800
» I the only [snorts] one that didn't do

1803
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,360
the deeper dive that

1804
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,630
>> I kind of did, but

1805
01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:04,640
» I kind of did, but

1806
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:09,189
>> Oh, I asked

1807
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:10,719
I couldn't connect and see the whole

1808
01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:12,560
thing.

1809
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:12,950
>> So,

1810
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:12,960
» So,

1811
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,550
>> I needed the piece of paper,

1812
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:14,560
» I needed the piece of paper,

1813
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,229
>> right? And so, you haven't had the

1814
01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:16,239
» right? And so, you haven't had the

1815
01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:17,760
opportunity then to get behind the

1816
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,199
scenes or did you get all the back

1817
01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:22,470
documentation?

1818
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:24,080
» Does this piece of paper include

1819
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,400
everything that's in the linky linky

1820
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:27,040
stuff?

1821
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,030
>> I actually didn't look at it. Um, Nicole

1822
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:29,040
» I actually didn't look at it. Um, Nicole

1823
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,560
was the one that printed it, so I'm not

1824
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:31,920
sure if it actually includes the

1825
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,679
background stuff. I kind of think so

1826
01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:35,760
because clicking around I haven't found

1827
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,760
more than what's printed on the paper.

1828
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,070
>> Okay. What I can do too is actually get

1829
01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:40,080
» Okay. What I can do too is actually get

1830
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,239
the reports open so that everything gets

1831
01:19:42,239 --> 01:19:44,159
and I can get it into a PDF and send it

1832
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:45,360
to you if you don't want to click

1833
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:46,159
around.

1834
01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:46,870
>> Yes, please.

1835
01:19:46,870 --> 01:19:46,880
» Yes, please.

1836
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,350
>> Please. [laughter]

1837
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:49,360
» Please. [laughter]

1838
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,199
Um, and at the risk of maybe

1839
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:56,709
um

1840
01:19:56,719 --> 01:19:58,239
jumping the gun here a little bit in

1841
01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:00,239
terms of

1842
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:02,239
I want to spend a couple minutes in

1843
01:20:02,239 --> 01:20:05,760
social and cultural life if I could.

1844
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,560
Um, my notes

1845
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,640
was I think more specificity is needed

1846
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,199
here, but maybe it is behind all of

1847
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:15,040
these levels.

1848
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,070
um

1849
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,360
when we're talking about community

1850
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,440
safety and when I first looked at this

1851
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:24,400
Sue I have to admit that I I thought

1852
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,760
that given the

1853
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,719
discussion and

1854
01:20:30,719 --> 01:20:32,239
concern expressed by the community

1855
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:35,600
related to safety that

1856
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,679
we didn't put you didn't put enough in

1857
01:20:37,679 --> 01:20:40,640
your document and I stand corrected

1858
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,480
because I I don't know yet whether you

1859
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:47,750
did or you didn't. Um

1860
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,440
the tactic that was written here was

1861
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:52,000
support community safety planning and I

1862
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,719
wrote only support it. Are we actually

1863
01:20:54,719 --> 01:20:57,280
planning to commit and do something and

1864
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,280
implement actions and strategies that

1865
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,960
are uh fiscally realistic and feasible

1866
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,960
and support of businesses and residents

1867
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,800
and I wanted to speak specifically about

1868
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,120
the businesses. Um

1869
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,719
and then there was another statement in

1870
01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:15,120
there uh and I thought it should be

1871
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,000
broken out that it says here strength

1872
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,080
and coordination for supports of

1873
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,239
residents during emergencies and extreme

1874
01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:26,719
weather and um I wanted to speak to

1875
01:21:26,719 --> 01:21:28,159
ensure that we are talking about all

1876
01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:29,679
residents

1877
01:21:29,679 --> 01:21:32,640
um not just the unhoused or precariously

1878
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,120
housed. I'm I'm thinking back to when he

1879
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:40,480
had in u really horrific heat in our

1880
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:41,760
something we haven't seen this summer

1881
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,239
but previously and we were dealing with

1882
01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:46,719
seniors and and cooling centers and all

1883
01:21:46,719 --> 01:21:49,360
the rest of it. We weren't we weren't

1884
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,199
talking targeting a specific

1885
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:55,040
group in our community. And I want to

1886
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,920
make sure that as we talk about supports

1887
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,600
for our our residents, we're talking

1888
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:05,830
about all of them. Um

1889
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,440
and then there was a bullet in there

1890
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:10,800
about improving supports

1891
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,040
um

1892
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,199
to other entities

1893
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:16,800
and I don't know how we improve supports

1894
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,639
to other entities. I I think we can

1895
01:22:18,639 --> 01:22:22,080
improve uh

1896
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,639
I don't know how we can provide supports

1897
01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:26,719
of of non city entities. I think we can

1898
01:22:26,719 --> 01:22:28,400
only improve coordination coordination

1899
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,560
of the supports. Um,

1900
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,320
I don't believe we can we can uh

1901
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,800
increase the capacity of mental health

1902
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,600
and or mental health supports, but I

1903
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,080
think we can

1904
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,870
>> work to help improve those supports. You

1905
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:46,880
» work to help improve those supports. You

1906
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,000
know what I'm getting at here a little

1907
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:48,480
bit?

1908
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:48,790
>> Um,

1909
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:48,800
» Um,

1910
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:49,750
>> yeah.

1911
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:49,760
» yeah.

1912
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,510
>> And I I'm going to stand down because I

1913
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:51,520
» And I I'm going to stand down because I

1914
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,520
just I've got to do more work on this

1915
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:54,159
for sure.

1916
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:57,430
>> I I do. Um, the one thing that I should

1917
01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:57,440
» I I do. Um, the one thing that I should

1918
01:22:57,440 --> 01:22:59,199
note too is that this is like a live

1919
01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:01,679
document. So, just yesterday I had some

1920
01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:04,480
meetings with the library and FCSS and

1921
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:07,679
those meetings actually um gave me some

1922
01:23:07,679 --> 01:23:08,880
information that I'm going to update

1923
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,719
this document with. So, as I go in and

1924
01:23:10,719 --> 01:23:12,880
update those, you'll get to see that in

1925
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,199
real time, not on the printed copy, but

1926
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:17,440
um through the the website. But, for

1927
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:19,679
example, if we look at support community

1928
01:23:19,679 --> 01:23:20,960
safety planning through structured

1929
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,120
partnerships, etc., etc. When I click

1930
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,199
into that, there's a description here

1931
01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:26,719
that says the project will strengthen

1932
01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:29,040
collaboration among municipal partners,

1933
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:30,800
sorry, municipal departments, emergency

1934
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,120
responders, and social service agencies,

1935
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,639
indigenous communities, healthcare

1936
01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:36,719
providers, school divisions, nonprofit

1937
01:23:36,719 --> 01:23:39,199
organizations. So, it goes on and on

1938
01:23:39,199 --> 01:23:41,280
about what it is that we're going to do

1939
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,920
within here. Um, and then the only note

1940
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,480
that I had put in because Jackie um,

1941
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:50,320
orientated me with to this last week and

1942
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,960
I thought it was really great. I know

1943
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,719
that enforcement services is reviewing

1944
01:23:54,719 --> 01:23:56,880
options and opportunities to collaborate

1945
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,560
regionally right now and we're looking

1946
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,920
at in um, sorry I should say protective

1947
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,880
services. Um, we are looking at

1948
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:06,320
emergency management and that sort of

1949
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,480
stuff. And we are when we think about

1950
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:10,000
emergencies. I had this discussion with

1951
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,280
Emily from FCSS yesterday. Council was

1952
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,239
not specific on unhoused. You said

1953
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:17,840
vulnerable residents. And so we're

1954
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,800
including seniors, children, um, people

1955
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,159
that are precariously housed or or one

1956
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:26,960
paycheck away from being unhoused. So

1957
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,360
we're not focusing on one group when we

1958
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,199
think about this area. We're looking at

1959
01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:32,800
everyone in the community that might be

1960
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,960
vulnerable. Um, so I think we've hit

1961
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,800
some of that, but again, once you dig

1962
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,080
through, we'll probably have a better

1963
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,040
discussion.

1964
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,990
>> Thank you for that. and and obviously

1965
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:46,000
» Thank you for that. and and obviously

1966
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,000
more digging to a deeper level needs to

1967
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,600
be done, but I I language is really

1968
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,360
important and

1969
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:59,120
how we interpret vulnerable population

1970
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,719
or how you're interpreting vulnerable

1971
01:25:00,719 --> 01:25:04,719
population and how the public may be

1972
01:25:04,719 --> 01:25:06,800
interpreting that

1973
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:11,440
um might be quite quite different. And

1974
01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:13,280
uh

1975
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:14,639
and that's why I talked about all

1976
01:25:14,639 --> 01:25:16,639
residents. And again, I'm not trying to

1977
01:25:16,639 --> 01:25:20,159
advocate for one over the other, but um

1978
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:23,040
if the vulnerable population is is as

1979
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,360
you've described the then I think we

1980
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,239
need to be clear to the public

1981
01:25:28,239 --> 01:25:32,149
what we're actually saying.

1982
01:25:32,159 --> 01:25:37,350
Okay. Councelor White.

1983
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,840
» Thank you. Deputy Mayor Elder through

1984
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,880
the chair to administration. Um Sue, can

1985
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:47,520
you ex expand on the conversation that I

1986
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,719
had regarding an inquiry from a group of

1987
01:25:50,719 --> 01:25:54,320
seniors who asked me about the city's

1988
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,040
emergency prepared plan and I know that

1989
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,440
some work is being done. Can you and can

1990
01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:02,159
you tie what's being what you found

1991
01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:04,320
what's being done and tie it to what

1992
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,560
you've included in the corporate plan?

1993
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:11,350
>> Sure. So, um, when I spoke to Matt about

1994
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:11,360
» Sure. So, um, when I spoke to Matt about

1995
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,960
this, we did find, so annually we are to

1996
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,280
update our emergency management plan and

1997
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:18,639
we have annual meetings with the

1998
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:20,480
province as well to go over and make

1999
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:22,080
sure that we've um, covered everything

2000
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,440
and that we're doing all the things that

2001
01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:25,679
we need to do like live exercises and

2002
01:26:25,679 --> 01:26:28,239
mock scenarios, etc.

2003
01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:31,520
Um Matt's team is doing a lot right now

2004
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,440
to kind of reestablish those

2005
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:36,080
relationships with the province and our

2006
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,400
um neighboring communities to make sure

2007
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,239
that we're hitting those targets where

2008
01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:42,320
we need to. But one of the areas that

2009
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,239
we've lacked in is actually keeping the

2010
01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:46,159
documentation up to date. And so there's

2011
01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:48,639
a lot of outdated information. Um we

2012
01:26:48,639 --> 01:26:51,120
were going to load the old one on, but

2013
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,639
we figured it would cause more confusion

2014
01:26:52,639 --> 01:26:54,800
because there's people and numbers that

2015
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,760
are not current anymore. And so Matt's

2016
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,199
team is going to be going through and

2017
01:26:59,199 --> 01:27:01,679
updating this um as soon as we can. And

2018
01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:03,679
it it deals it follows kind of the

2019
01:27:03,679 --> 01:27:05,840
template of the province. So it looks at

2020
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,000
every possible emergency scenario that

2021
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,679
could happen. I can tell you cuz I've

2022
01:27:09,679 --> 01:27:11,040
been through this several times in our

2023
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:15,199
community. Um weather, flooding, and

2024
01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:17,360
train derailment are our biggest um

2025
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,440
concerns that we have in this community.

2026
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:22,239
Um, and so once Matt's team gets through

2027
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:25,440
and updates that, uh, we will be sharing

2028
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:27,679
it with council and, um, on our city

2029
01:27:27,679 --> 01:27:29,920
website and then we'll be able to, um,

2030
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,280
work with the community groups so that

2031
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,520
they understand, um, what their roles

2032
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,920
are in this and how we how we notify the

2033
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,360
community of emergencies. Um

2034
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:40,800
there's a lot of work to be done around

2035
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,239
this and I think it's been done off the

2036
01:27:42,239 --> 01:27:44,080
side of people's desks and so I can tell

2037
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:45,360
you that we do have an operating

2038
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,320
business case in to help um staff

2039
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,080
emergency management although we are

2040
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,480
looking at what contracted help we might

2041
01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:56,880
be able to get and or what we can share

2042
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,440
from other communities um that is more

2043
01:27:59,440 --> 01:28:01,600
templateish and not specific to

2044
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,719
Watasquin. Um, so there's a lot of work

2045
01:28:04,719 --> 01:28:06,159
that needs to be done, but we're we're

2046
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:07,840
beginning that and as soon as we get

2047
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,520
that update for people, we will have

2048
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,400
that out. One of the big, um, gaps that

2049
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:13,440
we're having right now, and I haven't

2050
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:15,440
had this discussion with Emily. Um,

2051
01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:16,719
hopefully she's not watching and

2052
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:21,040
surprised. Um, FCSS is usually a a city

2053
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,440
department, and so they do handle the

2054
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:26,239
community services section when we stand

2055
01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:29,920
up um, and our um, EOCC.

2056
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,600
Um but because they're an outside

2057
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,360
agency, we really haven't had that

2058
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,199
discussion with them about what role

2059
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:37,600
they play in an emergency and they have

2060
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,639
all the contacts. So um we will be

2061
01:28:40,639 --> 01:28:42,239
working with them to see how we can make

2062
01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:44,159
this work for everybody uh moving

2063
01:28:44,159 --> 01:28:46,000
forward. But there's just some

2064
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,600
identified gaps that we have that we'll

2065
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,840
we'll work on. Um and then one of the

2066
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,280
discussions that councelor White and I

2067
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,840
had was do we have a system to let

2068
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,520
people know if there's an emergency? And

2069
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,280
we did. In the old city hall, there was

2070
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,760
an air horn on top of the building. I'm

2071
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,120
sure Ruben would give it to us if

2072
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:02,960
council wanted to figure out how to make

2073
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,880
that happen. Um, but there is a new

2074
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,880
system that most of you are probably

2075
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,719
aware that comes across your phone

2076
01:29:10,719 --> 01:29:12,639
through the province. And so, we are um

2077
01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:14,239
hooked up to that system and if there is

2078
01:29:14,239 --> 01:29:16,159
an emergency, we would go to that

2079
01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:18,239
website. There's two buttons in there.

2080
01:29:18,239 --> 01:29:19,600
There's one that's like, "Hey, there's a

2081
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:20,800
warning." And there's another one like,

2082
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,480
"Hey, we have a huge issue here and

2083
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:24,560
everybody needs to pay attention."

2084
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,960
um and and people get notified through

2085
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,440
that system. Um unfortunately, if you

2086
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:31,600
don't have a cell phone, there could be

2087
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,360
gaps that way. So, um something that

2088
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,600
we'll keep our eye on how we we may be

2089
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,679
able to help in those situations, but

2090
01:29:39,679 --> 01:29:40,880
right now, that's the system that

2091
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,920
everybody works off of.

2092
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,520
Thank you for that. I know I'm not the

2093
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,120
only one that looks forward to having

2094
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:52,000
those uh gaps tightened up.

2095
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:56,159
taking a turn um back to the pillar of

2096
01:29:56,159 --> 01:29:59,040
economic prosperity. I

2097
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,880
I

2098
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,120
did quite a bit of I'll say clicking

2099
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,639
around, but I really appreciated the

2100
01:30:04,639 --> 01:30:06,960
printed copy. Helped me think through

2101
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,239
some of this. Um in the economic area,

2102
01:30:10,239 --> 01:30:11,760
there's

2103
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,840
uh one of the goals says maximize

2104
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,639
economic value of key municipal assets.

2105
01:30:16,639 --> 01:30:19,360
And that's taken straight from council's

2106
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,320
strategic plan. and council's indicators

2107
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:26,239
of success say key municipal assets

2108
01:30:26,239 --> 01:30:28,080
contribute measurably to the city's

2109
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,480
business attraction, retention, and or

2110
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:34,239
expansion. And municipal assets are

2111
01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:36,239
positioned to support regional economic

2112
01:30:36,239 --> 01:30:38,639
development.

2113
01:30:38,639 --> 01:30:42,000
When I look at then the tactic that's

2114
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:45,679
listed in the corporate plan, which is

2115
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:47,520
reduce barriers to development by

2116
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,760
improving processes and enabling

2117
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,719
investment momentum.

2118
01:30:52,719 --> 01:30:55,360
I favor that. I I'm not opposed to

2119
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,800
reducing barriers, but I'm not it isn't

2120
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,719
readily obvious to me how that is

2121
01:31:02,719 --> 01:31:05,600
setting up our [snorts] municipal assets

2122
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,800
to contribute. seemed really broad and

2123
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,760
and the the goal is pretty specifically

2124
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,840
related to municipal assets. Can you

2125
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,480
either draw a correlation or help me

2126
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:18,800
understand why

2127
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,800
the pivot away from specifically key

2128
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:21,840
assets?

2129
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,870
>> Yeah, so I should have been clearer. Um

2130
01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:24,880
» Yeah, so I should have been clearer. Um

2131
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:26,719
they there is not a direct correlation

2132
01:31:26,719 --> 01:31:28,800
between your indicator of success and

2133
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,679
our administrative tactics. So the three

2134
01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:33,199
indicators of success that you have

2135
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:35,199
under there, we're saying these other

2136
01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:37,760
four things are going to feed into all

2137
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,480
of these or some of these. And I also

2138
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:43,840
mentioned earlier that some categories

2139
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,520
cross over. So if you look at

2140
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,040
environmental and infrastructure

2141
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:48,800
sustainability, one of the first

2142
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,560
administrative tactics we have is

2143
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,400
maintain a multi-year asset management

2144
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,639
strategy and capital plan. That also

2145
01:31:54,639 --> 01:31:56,880
ties into that. So some of these are

2146
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,600
cross like when we looked at the 15

2147
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,600
initiatives that we have. We tried to

2148
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,760
maximize them to say can these hit more

2149
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,800
than one council indicator for success

2150
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,800
and where they could. We put them where

2151
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,880
we thought they made the most sense but

2152
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,760
they actually go across pillars if that

2153
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,350
makes sense.

2154
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,800
It does when when this comes back to us

2155
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,679
again in

2156
01:32:23,679 --> 01:32:25,920
when we're more ready to to read it and

2157
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,280
absorb it as well as have a a method of

2158
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:33,760
absorbing it. I I still look forward to

2159
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,520
some tie to how

2160
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,560
key municipal assets are going to be

2161
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:45,350
maximized economically.

2162
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,159
» Okay. One of the things that I had

2163
01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:49,600
Jackie do because I thought that it was

2164
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,120
confusing, we had the goals and then the

2165
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:54,719
pillars or the categories as they're

2166
01:32:54,719 --> 01:32:56,960
called in here. And then there was

2167
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,520
another column in between that and

2168
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:03,040
administrative tactics that actually had

2169
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,440
um

2170
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:07,440
not just your goals, but the indicators

2171
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:10,000
of success that you had under each one.

2172
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,760
And I was worried that there was going

2173
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,719
to be a direct correlation to those. And

2174
01:33:14,719 --> 01:33:16,719
so I asked her to actually hide it. It's

2175
01:33:16,719 --> 01:33:19,679
in there and I could get her to unhide

2176
01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:23,120
it. Um so that you can see your goal and

2177
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,679
your indicators of success. But then

2178
01:33:25,679 --> 01:33:27,600
just remember that the administrative

2179
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:32,080
tactics don't directly line up.

2180
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,120
um does and maybe we need to position it

2181
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:36,880
differently where I have your goals,

2182
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,400
your indicators of success, and then

2183
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,040
maybe along the bottom we could have our

2184
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,040
administrative tactics so that it

2185
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:44,320
doesn't look like there's a direct

2186
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,639
correlation with each one if that makes

2187
01:33:46,639 --> 01:33:48,320
it might make it a little bit easier to

2188
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,199
look at that way. I was worried about

2189
01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:53,199
having too much information on this page

2190
01:33:53,199 --> 01:33:56,000
that would make things confusing.

2191
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,560
Um, but it is in there because we we

2192
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,360
took the goals and the indicators of

2193
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,679
success directly from your plan and then

2194
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:05,520
the only thing we've done is create

2195
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,199
those administrative tactics. And maybe

2196
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:09,840
what we could do is even maybe identify

2197
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,360
them through colors so that you could

2198
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:18,870
see some relate to more than one pillar.

2199
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,440
I will leave that as an operational

2200
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:23,280
activity of administration and I look

2201
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,760
forward to finding out how

2202
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,679
administration plans to maximize the

2203
01:34:27,679 --> 01:34:29,440
economic value of our key municipal

2204
01:34:29,440 --> 01:34:33,590
assets.

2205
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,960
» Councelor Nielsen,

2206
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,750
>> thanks. I'm I'm I'm glad councelor White

2207
01:34:39,750 --> 01:34:39,760
» thanks. I'm I'm I'm glad councelor White

2208
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,080
you went there. I had it on mine as

2209
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:45,199
well. Um, but was reluctant to comment

2210
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:50,639
because I hadn't dived deep enough. But

2211
01:34:50,639 --> 01:34:54,080
part of part of my my issue here is not

2212
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,800
unlike yours,

2213
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:58,320
but

2214
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:01,750
I wonder

2215
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,159
what is our role as council in

2216
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:07,679
identifying what we think are the

2217
01:35:07,679 --> 01:35:11,350
um

2218
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,320
key municipal assets.

2219
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,679
Is that admin team identifying the

2220
01:35:17,679 --> 01:35:21,040
city's key municipal assets or is it our

2221
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:26,800
role to identify those assets? Um

2222
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,520
because I wrote I wrote down some things

2223
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,400
here um

2224
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,239
that I guess I would question. I might

2225
01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:37,040
think that it's a key municipal asset,

2226
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,600
but it would never be considered.

2227
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,520
And so, for example, I wrote down names

2228
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,159
down of some core major businesses in

2229
01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:47,199
the airport. I also wrote down the topic

2230
01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:50,159
tourism. I also wrote down the top the

2231
01:35:50,159 --> 01:35:52,560
the item of proximity to our First

2232
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,639
Nations neighbors. That could tie into

2233
01:35:54,639 --> 01:35:56,159
tourism. That could tie into a number of

2234
01:35:56,159 --> 01:35:59,440
different elements. But who's to say

2235
01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:02,560
what are the key

2236
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,239
municipal assets that we're actually

2237
01:36:04,239 --> 01:36:08,639
asking somebody to do some work on? And

2238
01:36:08,639 --> 01:36:10,719
should it be us that identifies it or

2239
01:36:10,719 --> 01:36:13,040
should it be economic development who

2240
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,320
identifies it? Um I just wonder if there

2241
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:17,199
doesn't need to be more of a

2242
01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:18,480
conversation about what that it might

2243
01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:20,560
be.

2244
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,590
>> Councelor Nielsen, I support what you

2245
01:36:23,590 --> 01:36:23,600
» Councelor Nielsen, I support what you

2246
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,159
what you're taking on there.

2247
01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:27,440
I would like to leave it to

2248
01:36:27,440 --> 01:36:29,199
administration. I want to see what they

2249
01:36:29,199 --> 01:36:32,000
come back with and they've given us

2250
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,440
opportunity to feed into it. So bring

2251
01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:37,600
back and tell me what they think and

2252
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,920
then we will confirm or redirect as we

2253
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,480
see fit.

2254
01:36:44,480 --> 01:36:47,600
I do see this as an administrative task

2255
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,480
and I can link it to some of the

2256
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:52,239
discussions that we've had around asset

2257
01:36:52,239 --> 01:36:55,840
management and um one of the task forces

2258
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:57,679
that I sit on with municipal affairs

2259
01:36:57,679 --> 01:37:00,400
right now we're looking at uh viability

2260
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,800
reviews and CAO codes of conduct and

2261
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:04,719
that sort of thing and I can tell you

2262
01:37:04,719 --> 01:37:06,800
that one of the topics that we've talked

2263
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:09,840
about are the um the indicators that the

2264
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,159
province tracks with respect to asset

2265
01:37:12,159 --> 01:37:14,639
management and there's already an

2266
01:37:14,639 --> 01:37:16,159
established

2267
01:37:16,159 --> 01:37:18,639
um kind of protocol around what should

2268
01:37:18,639 --> 01:37:22,719
be included. Um, so we would follow

2269
01:37:22,719 --> 01:37:26,480
the legislation and um, and a lot of

2270
01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:28,320
that ties into grants. And so part of

2271
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:29,760
the discussion that we're having right

2272
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:33,679
now through the province is um, how we

2273
01:37:33,679 --> 01:37:36,400
relate grant funding from the province

2274
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,440
to the municipalities based on key asset

2275
01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:41,840
infrastructure rather than nice to

2276
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:45,679
haves. So I think there's enough there

2277
01:37:45,679 --> 01:37:48,080
that we that we need to follow best

2278
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,560
practices. we need to follow uh what the

2279
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,239
government has already set out because

2280
01:37:52,239 --> 01:37:54,560
that's what we're reporting on. Um so I

2281
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:56,480
I do totally see this as an

2282
01:37:56,480 --> 01:38:00,320
administrative um function, but we can

2283
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,159
certainly explain that to you what that

2284
01:38:02,159 --> 01:38:05,280
looks like. Um and then if there is

2285
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:06,800
disagreement around that, there's

2286
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,040
obviously a lobbying opportunity with

2287
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:13,669
the province.

2288
01:38:13,679 --> 01:38:16,960
» Any other questions?

2289
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:18,400
We want to break for five minutes or

2290
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,199
carry on. What do you What's everybody's

2291
01:38:21,199 --> 01:48:30,709
Okay, let's have a break Four. Five.

2292
01:48:30,719 --> 01:48:35,270
That may take

2293
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:37,119
some people

2294
01:48:37,119 --> 01:48:54,790
might take two

2295
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,080
Welcome back everybody. Uh

2296
01:48:58,080 --> 01:48:59,760
if there was any other there was no

2297
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:00,800
other questions there. So we're going to

2298
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:05,280
go to 8.6 local improvement policy.

2299
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,629
>> Good morning committee. Um I just wanted

2300
01:49:08,629 --> 01:49:08,639
» Good morning committee. Um I just wanted

2301
01:49:08,639 --> 01:49:10,560
to I guess bring this back in front of

2302
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,360
council um prior to discussing the

2303
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,239
reserve policy um at a future meeting.

2304
01:49:16,239 --> 01:49:18,320
And so just in general, a local

2305
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,880
improvement tax is essentially a tax

2306
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:24,719
that can be imposed on a piece of

2307
01:49:24,719 --> 01:49:27,360
infrastructure or um or an improvement

2308
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,239
in a neighborhood or an area that is

2309
01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:32,800
been clearly defined as a benefit to

2310
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:36,239
that particular area over benefiting the

2311
01:49:36,239 --> 01:49:38,639
entire municipality.

2312
01:49:38,639 --> 01:49:41,119
And so local improvements are taxes that

2313
01:49:41,119 --> 01:49:42,880
are applied to the land, not to an

2314
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,679
individual person. Uh and so our local

2315
01:49:45,679 --> 01:49:48,320
improvement policy currently um allows

2316
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,520
for sidewalks, curbon gutter, uh asphalt

2317
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,960
paving um to be included in that. Um the

2318
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:56,960
municipal government act does legislate

2319
01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:59,040
how municipalities can impose a local

2320
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,360
improvement tax.

2321
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:03,360
The current policy that you have in

2322
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,719
front of you today uh was introduced in

2323
01:50:06,719 --> 01:50:09,600
and approved by council in 2018 um and

2324
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:11,119
has not been re well it has been

2325
01:50:11,119 --> 01:50:12,480
reviewed. it just has not been in front

2326
01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:14,880
of council since that date. Uh and so

2327
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,280
administration just wants to uh get

2328
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:20,159
feedback from council on um what they

2329
01:50:20,159 --> 01:50:21,280
would like to see in the local

2330
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:24,560
improvement policy. Um, as part of the

2331
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,880
current policy, uh, it also allows for

2332
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:28,800
property owners to have their lanes

2333
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:32,480
paved, uh, to put median cuts in, uh, do

2334
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:34,560
decorative street lighting into their

2335
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:36,400
added to their neighbors. But that is

2336
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,560
the cost is borne solely by the property

2337
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:40,159
owners and is not split by the

2338
01:50:40,159 --> 01:50:42,960
municipality as is the curb and gutter

2339
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,440
asphalt paving and uh, sidewalks that

2340
01:50:45,440 --> 01:50:47,840
currently exists there. So, in other

2341
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,320
communities, things like lane paving,

2342
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:52,880
lane lighting, um our decorative

2343
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:54,239
lighting, those are included in their

2344
01:50:54,239 --> 01:50:56,239
local improvement policies just as ours

2345
01:50:56,239 --> 01:50:58,400
is. But in consideration of that reserve

2346
01:50:58,400 --> 01:50:59,760
policy and the discussions that have

2347
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,320
been had, does council want to consider

2348
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,639
removing the sidewalks, curbon gutter,

2349
01:51:04,639 --> 01:51:06,800
and asphalt paving from the local

2350
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,920
improvement policy and just keep items

2351
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:11,840
that would be requested by community

2352
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,320
members that would be uh paid for

2353
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:17,040
typically solely by the the uh property

2354
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,280
owners. Uh so that's an option that we

2355
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:22,239
can look at if uh council wants uh to go

2356
01:51:22,239 --> 01:51:24,639
that route. And if anyone has any

2357
01:51:24,639 --> 01:51:27,040
questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

2358
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,430
>> Councelor White,

2359
01:51:29,430 --> 01:51:29,440
» Councelor White,

2360
01:51:29,440 --> 01:51:32,000
then councelor or mayor Bronco.

2361
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:36,787
>> Easy question. What's a median cut?

2362
01:51:36,787 --> 01:51:36,797
» Easy question. What's a median cut?

2363
01:51:36,797 --> 01:51:37,440
[laughter]

2364
01:51:37,440 --> 01:51:39,830
>> Uh through the I guess through to

2365
01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:39,840
» Uh through the I guess through to

2366
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:42,239
councelor White. Uh, a median cut is

2367
01:51:42,239 --> 01:51:44,239
essentially, so if you had a sidewalk in

2368
01:51:44,239 --> 01:51:46,080
front of your home, for example, and you

2369
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:49,599
were going to put in um a driveway, we

2370
01:51:49,599 --> 01:51:52,159
would we would allow you to pay to get

2371
01:51:52,159 --> 01:51:54,000
the sidewalk dropped so you didn't have

2372
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:55,760
to jump up and over a curb to get onto

2373
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,560
your driveway.

2374
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:00,629
>> So, it's about a sidewalk. I I was

2375
01:52:00,629 --> 01:52:00,639
» So, it's about a sidewalk. I I was

2376
01:52:00,639 --> 01:52:02,159
thinking median like something in the

2377
01:52:02,159 --> 01:52:03,760
middle of a road, not that.

2378
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:05,990
>> And it could be as well. So, if we had a

2379
01:52:05,990 --> 01:52:06,000
» And it could be as well. So, if we had a

2380
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,000
median um I'm just going to give an

2381
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,000
example. Say 40th Avenue. Let's say we

2382
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,560
put a median all the way across and you

2383
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:15,199
had a driveway on the north side of the

2384
01:52:15,199 --> 01:52:17,440
avenue and we you had to get through. We

2385
01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:19,440
would allow you to cut that at your cost

2386
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:20,960
so that you could access your driveway

2387
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,920
from either direction. Yeah.

2388
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:24,629
>> Thank you.

2389
01:52:24,629 --> 01:52:24,639
» Thank you.

2390
01:52:24,639 --> 01:52:25,510
>> You're welcome.

2391
01:52:25,510 --> 01:52:25,520
» You're welcome.

2392
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,589
>> Uh Mayor Bronco,

2393
01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:27,599
» Uh Mayor Bronco,

2394
01:52:27,599 --> 01:52:29,270
>> thank you. Mark, I'm sorry. I'm trying

2395
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:29,280
» thank you. Mark, I'm sorry. I'm trying

2396
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:31,360
to get on here. I touched something

2397
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:35,189
here. Uh

2398
01:52:35,199 --> 01:52:37,520
» what what I'm asked can you hear me?

2399
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,750
>> We can't see. Yep, we can hear and see.

2400
01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:39,760
» We can't see. Yep, we can hear and see.

2401
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,229
>> I I am against uh local improvement. I

2402
01:52:42,229 --> 01:52:42,239
» I I am against uh local improvement. I

2403
01:52:42,239 --> 01:52:45,040
think uh Watasquin the whole city,

2404
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:46,800
everybody should pay for that. I do

2405
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:49,679
agree that if citizens want their back

2406
01:52:49,679 --> 01:52:52,239
alley paved, that's something that's

2407
01:52:52,239 --> 01:52:55,679
used totally by the back alley or street

2408
01:52:55,679 --> 01:52:58,400
lights, but I am totally against local

2409
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,719
improvements. Uh the whole city of

2410
01:53:00,719 --> 01:53:03,599
Watascoin uses the roads.

2411
01:53:03,599 --> 01:53:06,159
Why not everybody pace?

2412
01:53:06,159 --> 01:53:09,280
So, I am against uh I would like it

2413
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,719
local improvements removed. Thank you.

2414
01:53:12,719 --> 01:53:14,550
>> Councelor Billingsley, then councelor

2415
01:53:14,550 --> 01:53:14,560
» Councelor Billingsley, then councelor

2416
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:17,280
Nielsen, then councelor White.

2417
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,510
>> Um

2418
01:53:19,510 --> 01:53:19,520
» Um

2419
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:22,719
first I'll I'll

2420
01:53:22,719 --> 01:53:25,760
mayor, are you talking like completely

2421
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:29,760
gone? So then if if four curb cuts or

2422
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:30,960
whatever then

2423
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,550
>> No, no, no, no, no, no. That's a

2424
01:53:32,550 --> 01:53:32,560
» No, no, no, no, no, no. That's a

2425
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,320
different that's a different item.

2426
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,229
>> That's different then. Okay. And I think

2427
01:53:36,229 --> 01:53:36,239
» That's different then. Okay. And I think

2428
01:53:36,239 --> 01:53:38,639
what administration is bringing back is

2429
01:53:38,639 --> 01:53:42,159
to say um sidewalks and overlays be

2430
01:53:42,159 --> 01:53:44,800
taken out of local improvement. Um and

2431
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:48,400
that would come out of um

2432
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:51,280
the residential tax portion. Um

2433
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:51,910
>> yes.

2434
01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:51,920
» yes.

2435
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:55,109
>> Okay. Just want clarification on that. I

2436
01:53:55,109 --> 01:53:55,119
» Okay. Just want clarification on that. I

2437
01:53:55,119 --> 01:53:57,280
did ask and this is more of a comment. I

2438
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,920
asked uh administration through finance

2439
01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:03,280
to find out um what the tax implications

2440
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:07,280
are going to be if we go to this model.

2441
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,159
Um over the last 5 years um the

2442
01:54:10,159 --> 01:54:12,480
residents had contributed approximately

2443
01:54:12,480 --> 01:54:14,400
$500,000

2444
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,199
um to this. So, you're looking or we are

2445
01:54:17,199 --> 01:54:21,440
looking at um about a $100,000 shortfall

2446
01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:24,719
that would then have to be

2447
01:54:24,719 --> 01:54:26,639
um instead of coming from the local

2448
01:54:26,639 --> 01:54:28,000
residents, it would be coming through

2449
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:31,040
the tax base. So, we would be looking if

2450
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:33,440
products projects were the same same

2451
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:36,320
location today's dollars of about a half

2452
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:40,400
a percent tax increase to do this just

2453
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:46,080
for us to know. Councelor Nielsen.

2454
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:47,394
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2455
01:54:47,394 --> 01:54:47,404
» Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2456
01:54:47,404 --> 01:54:48,719
[clears throat and cough]

2457
01:54:48,719 --> 01:54:51,040
Excuse me. Uh,

2458
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:53,199
I want to be

2459
01:54:53,199 --> 01:54:54,800
I want to understand, Joe, what what

2460
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:56,960
your position is in in relation to this

2461
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,040
because before I can say I agree with

2462
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:00,960
Joe, I want to make sure I agree with

2463
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:03,199
Joe. Um,

2464
01:55:03,199 --> 01:55:06,080
so

2465
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:10,149
>> I'm of I I'm of the I'm of the opinion

2466
01:55:10,149 --> 01:55:10,159
» I'm of I I'm of the I'm of the opinion

2467
01:55:10,159 --> 01:55:15,189
that I would like to see

2468
01:55:15,199 --> 01:55:18,080
local improvements dropped with the

2469
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:20,239
exception of

2470
01:55:20,239 --> 01:55:23,119
backlane, decorative,

2471
01:55:23,119 --> 01:55:26,000
um, lighting, all that kind of stuff.

2472
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,280
Um, is that where you're at, Joe, or are

2473
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:30,880
do you have more qualifications than

2474
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:33,599
that? No, no, Wayne, that's exactly what

2475
01:55:33,599 --> 01:55:35,119
I'm saying. So, to me, a local

2476
01:55:35,119 --> 01:55:37,840
improvement is uh I'll use for example

2477
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:42,159
your area, Parkside. I think Parkside

2478
01:55:42,159 --> 01:55:45,040
uh should not be left only to the people

2479
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:46,639
of Parkside. I think should be left to

2480
01:55:46,639 --> 01:55:49,760
the people with Tasco because,

2481
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,000
you know, you get a frustrated

2482
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,080
residences. Hey, these guys are driving

2483
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:56,400
up and down my street. Why aren't they

2484
01:55:56,400 --> 01:56:00,320
paying for it? So, uh, back alleys,

2485
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,639
street lights. If the residents wanted

2486
01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:04,560
it, that's different. It's no different

2487
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,040
than if a resident wants in the old part

2488
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:10,000
of town, his side's fallen apart, and he

2489
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,719
wants to do a curb cut, he pays the

2490
01:56:12,719 --> 01:56:15,280
contractor, the city, gets a permit or

2491
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:17,840
rip rips out percentage of his front of

2492
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:19,679
his sidewalk. Uh, that's a different

2493
01:56:19,679 --> 01:56:22,639
issue. local improvements it means is

2494
01:56:22,639 --> 01:56:24,400
redoing your whole sidewalk in that

2495
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:25,920
subdivision

2496
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:27,760
underground

2497
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,599
ashalt

2498
01:56:29,599 --> 01:56:31,199
and and that's what I that's what I

2499
01:56:31,199 --> 01:56:33,360
assume local improvements but curb cuts

2500
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:35,440
that's not local improvements that's

2501
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:39,199
individual request okay thank you so to

2502
01:56:39,199 --> 01:56:42,639
that extent then um I have a question

2503
01:56:42,639 --> 01:56:45,280
through the chair to administration so

2504
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:49,199
Sue if we were to eliminate um local

2505
01:56:49,199 --> 01:56:50,800
improvements

2506
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,040
What happens to all those folks that now

2507
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:55,840
are paying double because to Dean's

2508
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,080
point, they have to pay the an increased

2509
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:01,119
tax to support

2510
01:57:01,119 --> 01:57:03,280
paving roads and sidewalks across the

2511
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,599
city while at the same time they're also

2512
01:57:05,599 --> 01:57:08,320
paying because they had theirs done at a

2513
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,280
time when this was in place. So, what

2514
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:13,199
happens to them? Do they end up getting

2515
01:57:13,199 --> 01:57:15,760
caught and we're we're double dipping

2516
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:19,040
with them or what? H how?

2517
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:20,960
Yeah. Um,

2518
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,719
it's no different than when any other

2519
01:57:22,719 --> 01:57:25,840
rule changes. So, you could look at

2520
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,000
grandfathering, although I hate that.

2521
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:31,119
Um, but you could look at, and I' I'd

2522
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:32,480
have to talk to Tuloo to make sure that

2523
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:34,480
this is actually something we could do

2524
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:36,960
where you could reimburse that portion

2525
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:39,599
of

2526
01:57:39,599 --> 01:57:41,040
what they're already paying. There's

2527
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:42,639
very few local improvements in the city

2528
01:57:42,639 --> 01:57:45,040
right now. Most of them are paid off.

2529
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:46,320
Um,

2530
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,950
>> okay. So, we could look at at an

2531
01:57:48,950 --> 01:57:48,960
» okay. So, we could look at at an

2532
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:52,239
alternative, but um my standard response

2533
01:57:52,239 --> 01:57:54,320
to this is the rules change all the time

2534
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:57,119
and we don't go back. So, it should just

2535
01:57:57,119 --> 01:57:58,800
be the rule for everybody moving forward

2536
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:00,800
and that's that's just the way it is. I

2537
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:02,639
think there's only

2538
01:58:02,639 --> 01:58:04,080
I think there's only two or three in

2539
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:05,679
town right now.

2540
01:58:05,679 --> 01:58:10,629
>> So, while this is before us then

2541
01:58:10,639 --> 01:58:13,520
if there is a strong enough position

2542
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:17,910
amongst council to actually

2543
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:21,520
restrict it or change it um and move

2544
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:25,840
away from um

2545
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:27,920
is this what we do now in in terms of

2546
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,880
the recommendations or

2547
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:34,880
I'm I'm trying so if I'm if I'm

2548
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:36,480
if I'm a friend of Joe's on this

2549
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:38,159
particular issue and we get two other

2550
01:58:38,159 --> 01:58:40,719
friends does that mean we just don't

2551
01:58:40,719 --> 01:58:43,920
deal with this particular policy

2552
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,709
>> so Yeah, this was the discussion that we

2553
01:58:46,709 --> 01:58:46,719
» so Yeah, this was the discussion that we

2554
01:58:46,719 --> 01:58:48,159
had around the reserve policy. So,

2555
01:58:48,159 --> 01:58:50,239
administration is recommending that we

2556
01:58:50,239 --> 01:58:52,239
remove the road renewal from local

2557
01:58:52,239 --> 01:58:54,000
improvement. We're not saying throw out

2558
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:55,920
local improvement because there are

2559
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,000
valid opportunities for citizens to come

2560
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:00,800
forward. Um, what we are saying is that

2561
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,440
if you remove that risk around allowing

2562
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:04,880
them to vote it down and then they

2563
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,360
complain about the state of the road and

2564
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:08,800
you put it on taxes, we're going to have

2565
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,280
a much better asset management system.

2566
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:14,320
Um but we need you to make that decision

2567
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:17,440
on this before you can finalize your

2568
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:19,440
reserve policy discussion around the

2569
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:22,400
infrastructure tax. So yes, we do need

2570
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:25,599
you to

2571
01:59:25,599 --> 01:59:28,480
find three people that support whatever

2572
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:30,719
direction you want us to take.

2573
01:59:30,719 --> 01:59:34,287
>> Okay. So from that perspective then

2574
01:59:34,287 --> 01:59:34,297
» Okay. So from that perspective then

2575
01:59:34,297 --> 01:59:36,470
[clears throat]

2576
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:38,239
and I think I'm I'm interpreting

2577
01:59:38,239 --> 01:59:42,390
correctly

2578
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:46,870
I would like to see

2579
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,760
roads and sidewalks

2580
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,880
be removed or sorry asphalting and

2581
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:57,760
paving um be removed from

2582
01:59:57,760 --> 01:59:59,599
this policy which would then allow

2583
01:59:59,599 --> 02:00:01,119
people who wanted

2584
02:00:01,119 --> 02:00:05,840
other stuff to line up and be able to go

2585
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:07,840
through it and pay for it. Did that make

2586
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:10,800
sense?

2587
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:13,679
Sorry, it does. Um, I would maybe reward

2588
02:00:13,679 --> 02:00:16,960
it. Um, that I think Ryan used some good

2589
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,760
language before standard

2590
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,199
because someone could come in and say we

2591
02:00:21,199 --> 02:00:23,199
want a decorative sidewalk in here and

2592
02:00:23,199 --> 02:00:24,880
we should allow them to petition for

2593
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,760
that. Um, but if they want the standard

2594
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:31,840
that the city does, um, then we can we

2595
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:33,360
can work around some wording so that it

2596
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:34,800
doesn't remove that opportunity for

2597
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:36,159
citizens to come forward and get

2598
02:00:36,159 --> 02:00:36,960
something different in their

2599
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:37,760
neighborhood.

2600
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:43,189
>> Okay. So, I think Joel and I

2601
02:00:43,189 --> 02:00:43,199
» Okay. So, I think Joel and I

2602
02:00:43,199 --> 02:00:46,560
want to see roads and sidewalks,

2603
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:49,599
standard roads and sidewalks be the

2604
02:00:49,599 --> 02:00:53,040
responsibility of all rateayers.

2605
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,679
Would you say that's right, Joe? That is

2606
02:00:55,679 --> 02:00:56,400
correct. Blank.

2607
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:58,550
>> Okay.

2608
02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:58,560
» Okay.

2609
02:00:58,560 --> 02:00:59,830
>> Councelor [clears throat] White, Mayor

2610
02:00:59,830 --> 02:00:59,840
» Councelor [clears throat] White, Mayor

2611
02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:03,679
Bronco, then Councelor Aberly.

2612
02:01:03,679 --> 02:01:10,709
>> I think you have a third friend,

2613
02:01:10,719 --> 02:01:12,960
» Mayor Bronco.

2614
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:14,800
Uh, thank you. through a chair to

2615
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:18,880
clarification suit. the the the the

2616
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:21,760
policy we have now when we do a local

2617
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:24,159
improvement, we assess their frontage

2618
02:01:24,159 --> 02:01:25,679
and we charge them, let's say, for

2619
02:01:25,679 --> 02:01:29,360
example, the average home pays $3,000.

2620
02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:32,400
But once we're doing that project and

2621
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:36,239
for unforeseen conditions,

2622
02:01:36,239 --> 02:01:38,960
there's $100,000 extra. Who pays for

2623
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:42,560
that? Does that get divided between

2624
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:45,440
the residents or is that become part of

2625
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:49,280
the local the whole community

2626
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:51,199
because because when we give them a

2627
02:01:51,199 --> 02:01:54,800
price we say for the next 10 years if we

2628
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:57,280
do a local improvement you're going to

2629
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:00,880
pay let's say $500 for the next 10 years

2630
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:03,360
that's based on that project cost. But

2631
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:06,960
if there's an overseen

2632
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:09,920
uh extras, let's say $100,000 on that

2633
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:12,639
road, who pays for that? Is that all

2634
02:02:12,639 --> 02:02:15,920
citizens of Watasan or is that that

2635
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,159
devel or that

2636
02:02:18,159 --> 02:02:23,109
project

2637
02:02:23,119 --> 02:02:25,840
» uh through to Mayor Bronco. So in that

2638
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:28,560
case, so if if the bylaw was approved by

2639
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:30,639
council and it said that each property

2640
02:02:30,639 --> 02:02:33,679
is uh saying $3,000

2641
02:02:33,679 --> 02:02:36,480
for the next 10 years and the project is

2642
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:38,800
concluded and we do have some issue and

2643
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:41,599
it's an extra $100,000, then the bylaw

2644
02:02:41,599 --> 02:02:44,080
would have to be amended or proposed to

2645
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:45,679
be amended and council could amend the

2646
02:02:45,679 --> 02:02:49,360
bylaw to increase each of the properties

2647
02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:52,000
by splitting that 100,000 between the

2648
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:55,760
city 50% and the residents 50%. % or

2649
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:57,840
council could say, "Nope, that's okay."

2650
02:02:57,840 --> 02:02:59,760
Um, the city will pay for it. That's

2651
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,159
that's up to council.

2652
02:03:02,159 --> 02:03:04,229
>> Thank you,

2653
02:03:04,229 --> 02:03:04,239
» Thank you,

2654
02:03:04,239 --> 02:03:06,000
councelor Averly. Then councelor

2655
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:06,960
Billingsley.

2656
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:09,830
>> Uh, thank you. We don't have to say

2657
02:03:09,830 --> 02:03:09,840
» Uh, thank you. We don't have to say

2658
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:12,000
through the chair, but I'm going to uh

2659
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:13,520
through the chair to administration. I

2660
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:15,599
just want to make sure I understand

2661
02:03:15,599 --> 02:03:18,239
fully what this discussion is. So

2662
02:03:18,239 --> 02:03:21,119
currently uh

2663
02:03:21,119 --> 02:03:24,159
correct me if I anything I say is wrong.

2664
02:03:24,159 --> 02:03:27,679
Currently we have a I'm going to say

2665
02:03:27,679 --> 02:03:32,080
long list of areas where we see our

2666
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,639
equipment and our analysis has seen

2667
02:03:34,639 --> 02:03:37,520
these are the areas

2668
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:41,040
where road work, sidewalk work in

2669
02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:43,599
neighborhoods is required.

2670
02:03:43,599 --> 02:03:46,159
And I remember a couple years ago

2671
02:03:46,159 --> 02:03:49,199
looking at it, right? Like this year

2672
02:03:49,199 --> 02:03:51,520
we're hoping to do X, like the plan is

2673
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:53,760
to do XY Z.

2674
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:55,280
And I was looking at it really carefully

2675
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:58,320
because my block is um coming soon. And

2676
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:02,480
I was like, oo, uh, my taxes are about

2677
02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:05,599
to go up.

2678
02:04:05,599 --> 02:04:08,560
So my first So so far I'm right. So we

2679
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:11,440
just go down that line of that's how we

2680
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:14,880
do that is

2681
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:19,280
this and then if the neighborhood who

2682
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:21,679
will have or the people who live along

2683
02:04:21,679 --> 02:04:24,000
that stretch

2684
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:26,080
where the work's going to get done if

2685
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:28,960
the majority does not want to pay the

2686
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:31,360
local improvement it gets put down to

2687
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:34,320
the bottom and their

2688
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:36,400
road sidewalk whatever doesn't get done

2689
02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:38,480
so I understand the process as more or

2690
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:40,480
less before I ask my question.

2691
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:42,070
>> Councelor Ably, you have it correct.

2692
02:04:42,070 --> 02:04:42,080
» Councelor Ably, you have it correct.

2693
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:44,470
>> Okay.

2694
02:04:44,470 --> 02:04:44,480
» Okay.

2695
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:47,760
So, the first question is if we get rid

2696
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:51,760
of the local improvement levy on those

2697
02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:54,080
individual people and we spread it out

2698
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:59,990
to the community, do we foresee,

2699
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,080
for example, because I think that my

2700
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:03,679
road and it's not really about me. It's

2701
02:05:03,679 --> 02:05:07,199
just how I can organize my road will

2702
02:05:07,199 --> 02:05:10,320
still 100% be done when it was planned

2703
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:13,280
to or now that

2704
02:05:13,280 --> 02:05:16,639
we are looking at everything that

2705
02:05:16,639 --> 02:05:18,560
timeline's going to be shorter or

2706
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:20,639
longer,

2707
02:05:20,639 --> 02:05:22,560
would it impact that at all? And I I

2708
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,280
know that's sort of we don't know the

2709
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:27,280
answer 100% but

2710
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:30,229
>> uh so there is a potential that it might

2711
02:05:30,229 --> 02:05:30,239
» uh so there is a potential that it might

2712
02:05:30,239 --> 02:05:32,159
be delayed a year or two depending on

2713
02:05:32,159 --> 02:05:34,960
priorities. Um obviously grant funding

2714
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,119
impacts that uh reserve funding will

2715
02:05:37,119 --> 02:05:40,719
impact that um council's decisions on

2716
02:05:40,719 --> 02:05:43,280
you know instead of spending $2 million

2717
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:44,800
on roads this year we're going to spend

2718
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:46,639
it here. So that could impact the

2719
02:05:46,639 --> 02:05:49,440
priorities. But if your road was

2720
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:53,040
scheduled for 2028 uh reconstruction, we

2721
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:54,880
would follow that schedule as close as

2722
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:55,760
possible.

2723
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:58,950
>> And either having the levy or not having

2724
02:05:58,950 --> 02:05:58,960
» And either having the levy or not having

2725
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:01,679
the levy is not going to impact that

2726
02:06:01,679 --> 02:06:03,440
schedule.

2727
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:05,119
The only thing that would impact that

2728
02:06:05,119 --> 02:06:08,719
would be if the levy still exists and

2729
02:06:08,719 --> 02:06:11,599
it's petitioned against then obviously

2730
02:06:11,599 --> 02:06:14,080
the schedule changes but otherwise the

2731
02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:16,960
schedule shouldn't be affected

2732
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:19,199
by more than a year or two in my

2733
02:06:19,199 --> 02:06:19,760
opinion.

2734
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:22,550
>> Okay. So when I look at when I think

2735
02:06:22,550 --> 02:06:22,560
» Okay. So when I look at when I think

2736
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:25,760
about the levy and I'm this is where I

2737
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:27,440
was like wait to my question until

2738
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:30,000
everybody agrees because I need I need

2739
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:36,069
to just maybe have council

2740
02:06:36,079 --> 02:06:38,320
argue this in my head for me as to

2741
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:40,639
whether or not you have a fourth friend.

2742
02:06:40,639 --> 02:06:45,270
Um,

2743
02:06:45,280 --> 02:06:49,040
initially I believe that yes, 100%

2744
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:52,320
we should be spreading this across the

2745
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:55,679
community in the sense that we are one

2746
02:06:55,679 --> 02:06:59,760
community and let's um spread the cost

2747
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:04,149
of everybody's roads.

2748
02:07:04,159 --> 02:07:08,400
But then I wonder I get where Sue you

2749
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:09,760
were saying if they want a decorative

2750
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:11,920
sidewalk or they they want these special

2751
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:14,400
things they can

2752
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:16,880
apply for it. But if there is a group of

2753
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:19,840
people that

2754
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:24,079
have the money and want to expedite

2755
02:07:24,079 --> 02:07:29,679
their roads that now takes a cost off

2756
02:07:29,679 --> 02:07:33,199
the rest of us. And so where I'm not I

2757
02:07:33,199 --> 02:07:34,880
think fundamentally I don't agree with

2758
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:36,400
that because I don't agree with that

2759
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,480
with healthare but then when I think

2760
02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:41,679
about it with um the roads I'm sort of

2761
02:07:41,679 --> 02:07:45,679
like how much of a communist am I? uh

2762
02:07:45,679 --> 02:07:51,350
right is [laughter] I don't

2763
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:53,119
basically that's what we're saying now

2764
02:07:53,119 --> 02:07:56,400
is that if you can afford it

2765
02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:58,239
you can have it quicker and maybe we're

2766
02:07:58,239 --> 02:08:00,560
getting more work done in the year

2767
02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:03,440
because people are being able to put in

2768
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:06,719
more work towards it. So I just if

2769
02:08:06,719 --> 02:08:08,480
anybody can help me make my mind up

2770
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:12,880
because I'm I'm totally on the fence.

2771
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:15,440
Councelor Billingsley, maybe you can

2772
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:18,400
help her.

2773
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:20,069
>> I don't know if I'm going to be able to

2774
02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:20,079
» I don't know if I'm going to be able to

2775
02:08:20,079 --> 02:08:21,599
be much help. I think you have a friend

2776
02:08:21,599 --> 02:08:26,159
in me as [laughter] well. Part of the um

2777
02:08:26,159 --> 02:08:31,199
consideration though is um we will have

2778
02:08:31,199 --> 02:08:34,159
a shortfall of revenue compared to if we

2779
02:08:34,159 --> 02:08:36,000
had local improvement. Like I say, about

2780
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:39,360
a half a percent of of of taxation lost.

2781
02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:41,599
Um, part of the problem that we ran into

2782
02:08:41,599 --> 02:08:46,480
with this is that we had um I'll use the

2783
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:48,079
Parkside Drive. Is that the the really

2784
02:08:48,079 --> 02:08:52,159
bad street? Um, it was scheduled

2785
02:08:52,159 --> 02:08:54,310
>> to be fixed

2786
02:08:54,310 --> 02:08:54,320
» to be fixed

2787
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:56,800
few years ago and they petitioned and

2788
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:58,880
and did not want to do the local

2789
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:02,880
improvement. So

2790
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:07,520
it becomes a problem in the sense of

2791
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:09,679
they are the ones who said no thank you

2792
02:09:09,679 --> 02:09:13,119
we'll move it to the bottom of the pile

2793
02:09:13,119 --> 02:09:14,880
and I could understand why because their

2794
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:17,040
their taxes were going to go up more

2795
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:19,520
than if it was shared among the entire

2796
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:26,480
community. Um, so that's one thing to um

2797
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:28,239
have in your mind when you decide

2798
02:09:28,239 --> 02:09:30,320
whether or not this is the right way to

2799
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:33,520
go or not. Um,

2800
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:36,560
but I think that um having things moved

2801
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:39,920
to the bottom of the pile, if we if we

2802
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:42,560
lose having u sidewalks and overlays

2803
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:47,119
removed from this list, um then things

2804
02:09:47,119 --> 02:09:48,880
wouldn't be moved to the end of the p or

2805
02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:51,440
to the bottom of the pile. that um

2806
02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:52,719
parkside drive would have been taken

2807
02:09:52,719 --> 02:09:54,320
care of three four years ago or whenever

2808
02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:57,679
it was scheduled. So um for that reason

2809
02:09:57,679 --> 02:10:02,400
I'm will support removing those.

2810
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:04,229
>> Mayor Bronco,

2811
02:10:04,229 --> 02:10:04,239
» Mayor Bronco,

2812
02:10:04,239 --> 02:10:08,880
thank you. Uh just a question. I know we

2813
02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:11,440
have we have a tax for roads and

2814
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:14,239
infrastructure. So if I were to look at

2815
02:10:14,239 --> 02:10:18,400
the other aspect is residents, let's say

2816
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:21,520
we're going to go to a 2% infrastructure

2817
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:24,079
tax.

2818
02:10:24,079 --> 02:10:26,880
And I would feel real guilty myself if I

2819
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:29,760
were was to pay 2%

2820
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:31,920
tax for infrastructure and then when it

2821
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:35,360
came to building my road that I'd have

2822
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:39,119
to pay the whole thing when I'm already

2823
02:10:39,119 --> 02:10:40,639
paying

2824
02:10:40,639 --> 02:10:43,679
a road tax. So, it's almost like to me I

2825
02:10:43,679 --> 02:10:47,840
see it as uh double taxing the residents

2826
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:51,599
for that for that lot for that road

2827
02:10:51,599 --> 02:10:55,760
because I am once once you raise a road

2828
02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:58,079
tax to everybody in our community that

2829
02:10:58,079 --> 02:11:00,239
means we're paying for everybody's road.

2830
02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:02,719
We're collecting money from everybody to

2831
02:11:02,719 --> 02:11:05,520
pay for everybody's road.

2832
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:10,950
So just just a thought.

2833
02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:19,430
» Councelor Oil.

2834
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:21,599
» Mike, please.

2835
02:11:21,599 --> 02:11:24,390
>> Oh, I turned it off. Thanks, Joe. Um,

2836
02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:24,400
» Oh, I turned it off. Thanks, Joe. Um,

2837
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:27,440
thanks, Mayor Branco.

2838
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:30,719
Would it be fair to say or is it is it

2839
02:11:30,719 --> 02:11:32,880
if we remove this then there is no

2840
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:35,760
choice to have your road and your

2841
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:38,000
sidewalks done or do they still have a

2842
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:40,719
choice to pay for it I guess would be my

2843
02:11:40,719 --> 02:11:44,239
question because if they did not we have

2844
02:11:44,239 --> 02:11:45,440
standard roads we have standard

2845
02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:47,360
sidewalks that's what you get it's paid

2846
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:49,760
for in your taxes we wouldn't have to

2847
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:51,760
worry about what councelor Averly was

2848
02:11:51,760 --> 02:11:53,801
saying correct

2849
02:11:53,801 --> 02:11:55,830
[clears throat]

2850
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:58,480
Um, yeah, that's correct. If the if the

2851
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:01,360
local improvement levy was removed,

2852
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:03,840
everyone would get

2853
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:05,920
standard road, standard curb and gutter,

2854
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:08,079
standard sidewalk, um, they couldn't

2855
02:12:08,079 --> 02:12:10,480
vote against it. Um, it would all it

2856
02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:14,400
would just get done in the order of our

2857
02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:16,000
infrastructure maintenance plan.

2858
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:19,990
>> Thank you,

2859
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:23,750
» Councelor Aberly.

2860
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:29,430
This is it's so funny. So

2861
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:31,679
for me it's funny as I work it through

2862
02:12:31,679 --> 02:12:34,960
that we are there are certain areas

2863
02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:37,840
where people want to call for plebites.

2864
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:39,920
They want to do all of these things as a

2865
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:43,199
representative government and this has

2866
02:12:43,199 --> 02:12:45,199
just made up my mind is that I believe

2867
02:12:45,199 --> 02:12:46,880
that we are elected to make these

2868
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:50,880
decisions and you have a friend. Thank

2869
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:53,830
you.

2870
02:12:53,840 --> 02:13:00,629
Any further questions?

2871
02:13:00,639 --> 02:13:02,719
Good. We don't need a motion on this, do

2872
02:13:02,719 --> 02:13:07,760
we? No. Okay. Oh, councelor Nielson.

2873
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:11,270
So,

2874
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:14,159
four or more friends means

2875
02:13:14,159 --> 02:13:15,440
a [clears throat] recommendation going

2876
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:18,480
to administration to pull

2877
02:13:18,480 --> 02:13:21,280
standard

2878
02:13:21,280 --> 02:13:24,320
curbs and gutters and sidewalks out of

2879
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:26,079
this proposal.

2880
02:13:26,079 --> 02:13:29,199
It doesn't

2881
02:13:29,199 --> 02:13:31,920
restrict a neighborhood

2882
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,400
from asking

2883
02:13:34,400 --> 02:13:38,149
and paying for

2884
02:13:38,159 --> 02:13:40,719
upgrades.

2885
02:13:40,719 --> 02:13:43,840
Would that be a safe statement?

2886
02:13:43,840 --> 02:13:46,069
>> That's correct.

2887
02:13:46,069 --> 02:13:46,079
» That's correct.

2888
02:13:46,079 --> 02:13:49,270
>> So my question would be this.

2889
02:13:49,270 --> 02:13:49,280
» So my question would be this.

2890
02:13:49,280 --> 02:13:52,239
I want to guard against

2891
02:13:52,239 --> 02:14:00,310
a really rich neighborhood Wataswin and

2892
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:03,199
they want to tear the road up every

2893
02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:05,679
every 5 years to make sure their

2894
02:14:05,679 --> 02:14:08,800
neighborhood is maintained.

2895
02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:12,960
Um, do they pay 50% and we're on the

2896
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:14,800
other hook for the 50 or do they pay for

2897
02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:18,629
the whole enchilada?

2898
02:14:18,639 --> 02:14:20,239
In other words, if we wipe this out, are

2899
02:14:20,239 --> 02:14:22,960
we wiping out our contribution to

2900
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:27,750
upgrades?

2901
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:30,960
» If somebody, a neighborhood, wanted to

2902
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:34,320
do something over and above the city's

2903
02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:37,520
maintenance and engineering standards,

2904
02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:39,760
that would be at their cost. So, if they

2905
02:14:39,760 --> 02:14:41,840
wanted to pave their street in gold,

2906
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:42,960
that would not be the city's

2907
02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:45,199
responsibility. I'd just like to point

2908
02:14:45,199 --> 02:14:46,800
out too that I think people who have

2909
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:50,320
money don't like wasting money.

2910
02:14:50,320 --> 02:14:52,310
>> No, be I I asked the question only

2911
02:14:52,310 --> 02:14:52,320
» No, be I I asked the question only

2912
02:14:52,320 --> 02:14:57,199
because we have if we simply pull out

2913
02:14:57,199 --> 02:14:59,599
roads and sidewalks and we leave the

2914
02:14:59,599 --> 02:15:01,280
rest of this here so people can make

2915
02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:03,119
application.

2916
02:15:03,119 --> 02:15:05,840
We would also have to pull out number

2917
02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:08,400
four which says the property owner's

2918
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:11,760
allocation is 25% and 50%. Right? We'd

2919
02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:13,840
have to make changes to that. So we are

2920
02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:15,599
on the hook for paying for their

2921
02:15:15,599 --> 02:15:18,079
decorative upgrade.

2922
02:15:18,079 --> 02:15:20,550
>> Yeah. Basically, so again, the municipal

2923
02:15:20,550 --> 02:15:20,560
» Yeah. Basically, so again, the municipal

2924
02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:22,639
government act legislates how we can

2925
02:15:22,639 --> 02:15:25,440
impose a t local improvement. So, but

2926
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:27,360
we'll make sure that obviously follows

2927
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:29,920
that legislation. So I'll bring back an

2928
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:31,199
amendment to the local improvement

2929
02:15:31,199 --> 02:15:33,440
policy with the recommendations that we

2930
02:15:33,440 --> 02:15:37,760
heard today. Um I guess just um in my

2931
02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:40,000
previous life um I did local

2932
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:42,239
improvements in another community um

2933
02:15:42,239 --> 02:15:46,000
much larger community and it was even

2934
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:47,840
the rich folk did not want to pay for

2935
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:50,239
that. Most of those got petitioned

2936
02:15:50,239 --> 02:15:52,560
against even if they were in the

2937
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:55,760
million-dollar houses.

2938
02:15:55,760 --> 02:15:57,990
>> Thank you. Councelor Aberly.

2939
02:15:57,990 --> 02:15:58,000
» Thank you. Councelor Aberly.

2940
02:15:58,000 --> 02:15:59,990
>> Thank you. I think the last comment by

2941
02:15:59,990 --> 02:16:00,000
» Thank you. I think the last comment by

2942
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:02,159
Kathy helped my question a little bit,

2943
02:16:02,159 --> 02:16:05,760
but I'm in the sense of gold roads

2944
02:16:05,760 --> 02:16:07,760
everywhere. [gasps]

2945
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:09,920
Could these improvements only happen

2946
02:16:09,920 --> 02:16:16,079
when said neighborhood is scheduled for

2947
02:16:16,079 --> 02:16:20,069
improvement?

2948
02:16:20,079 --> 02:16:23,040
If a neighborhood petitioned to get a

2949
02:16:23,040 --> 02:16:24,639
local improvement completed in their

2950
02:16:24,639 --> 02:16:27,679
area, if it was a successful petition

2951
02:16:27,679 --> 02:16:30,639
and it met the city's schedule, I guess

2952
02:16:30,639 --> 02:16:32,479
for construction, um because we'd

2953
02:16:32,479 --> 02:16:34,000
obviously have to tender the project and

2954
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:37,599
so on, um then it could advance. So, if

2955
02:16:37,599 --> 02:16:39,040
someone petitioned to say, "I want my

2956
02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:42,479
road done next year." And 100% of the of

2957
02:16:42,479 --> 02:16:46,080
the uh residents or the property owners

2958
02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:48,240
said, "Yep," then we could put it on the

2959
02:16:48,240 --> 02:16:50,479
list. And if it's not funded by the

2960
02:16:50,479 --> 02:16:52,000
city, it really doesn't matter. It

2961
02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:54,160
wouldn't impact the taxes or anything.

2962
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:56,719
It would just impact

2963
02:16:56,719 --> 02:17:01,280
us scheduling it with a contractor.

2964
02:17:01,280 --> 02:17:04,960
Kathy, just so I make sure just so I I

2965
02:17:04,960 --> 02:17:09,679
think what I've heard is that the city

2966
02:17:09,679 --> 02:17:11,920
would not be doing that road anymore.

2967
02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:15,200
That wouldn't be coming out of So, we're

2968
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:16,960
going to go back to my street. My

2969
02:17:16,960 --> 02:17:20,240
street's going to get fixed in two years

2970
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:22,880
regardless of how many people want and

2971
02:17:22,880 --> 02:17:25,359
pay for their own lo local improvement

2972
02:17:25,359 --> 02:17:26,960
because that's going to be on the city

2973
02:17:26,960 --> 02:17:28,559
dime.

2974
02:17:28,559 --> 02:17:30,960
And you are just

2975
02:17:30,960 --> 02:17:32,800
working with that neighborhood to get

2976
02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:35,040
the proper contractors in to do that

2977
02:17:35,040 --> 02:17:37,599
road properly. It's not the city doing

2978
02:17:37,599 --> 02:17:38,639
the work.

2979
02:17:38,639 --> 02:17:41,349
>> That's correct. Thank you.

2980
02:17:41,349 --> 02:17:41,359
» That's correct. Thank you.

2981
02:17:41,359 --> 02:17:44,950
>> Any further questions?

2982
02:17:44,950 --> 02:17:44,960
» Any further questions?

2983
02:17:44,960 --> 02:17:46,469
>> Moving on.

2984
02:17:46,469 --> 02:17:46,479
» Moving on.

2985
02:17:46,479 --> 02:17:49,110
>> Hallelu.

2986
02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:49,120
» Hallelu.

2987
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:50,960
My apologies.

2988
02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:53,429
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A question to

2989
02:17:53,429 --> 02:17:53,439
» Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A question to

2990
02:17:53,439 --> 02:17:56,719
Kathy or Sue.

2991
02:17:56,719 --> 02:18:00,080
Let's say we have

2992
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:03,679
uh we have a list of five streets.

2993
02:18:03,679 --> 02:18:05,840
Does council get to choose which street

2994
02:18:05,840 --> 02:18:09,840
is more uh

2995
02:18:09,840 --> 02:18:12,639
goes first priority? Let's say we drive

2996
02:18:12,639 --> 02:18:14,960
oh this is terrible.

2997
02:18:14,960 --> 02:18:17,120
Do we have a choice? Does council have a

2998
02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:21,359
choice to put uh uh select, you know,

2999
02:18:21,359 --> 02:18:24,240
one, two, three or four or is that

3000
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:26,639
engineering department

3001
02:18:26,639 --> 02:18:28,800
cuz some municipalities

3002
02:18:28,800 --> 02:18:31,920
council decides?

3003
02:18:31,920 --> 02:18:34,559
Uh, Mayor Broncos, so we did a road

3004
02:18:34,559 --> 02:18:37,280
assessment a number of years ago and so

3005
02:18:37,280 --> 02:18:39,200
anytime we bring a project forward for

3006
02:18:39,200 --> 02:18:41,519
council's consideration, it is because

3007
02:18:41,519 --> 02:18:45,599
it is the most a highest priority for

3008
02:18:45,599 --> 02:18:47,359
administration to complete for that

3009
02:18:47,359 --> 02:18:51,439
maintenance schedule. So, um, the items

3010
02:18:51,439 --> 02:18:53,599
that will come forward for the 2027

3011
02:18:53,599 --> 02:18:55,359
construction, those have been

3012
02:18:55,359 --> 02:18:58,719
prioritized uh as number one uh being

3013
02:18:58,719 --> 02:19:00,399
the most important thing that has to get

3014
02:19:00,399 --> 02:19:03,760
done next. And so the list is there. Uh

3015
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:06,880
if council chooses to um fund something

3016
02:19:06,880 --> 02:19:08,639
different, that's that's up to council

3017
02:19:08,639 --> 02:19:12,950
to decide.

3018
02:19:12,960 --> 02:19:16,160
» Okay. Any further questions?

3019
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:19,280
Great. Moving on. Council reports for

3020
02:19:19,280 --> 02:19:22,080
information.

3021
02:19:22,080 --> 02:19:25,519
Anything there? Closed sessions. Is

3022
02:19:25,519 --> 02:19:28,080
there anything on closed?

3023
02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:30,800
There is. Okay. So, we will go to close

3024
02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:37,280
session at 11, looks like 19.

3025
02:19:37,280 --> 02:19:39,990
>> Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. For this, we do

3026
02:19:39,990 --> 02:19:40,000
» Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. For this, we do

3027
02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:42,639
need a vote on it and a motion.

3028
02:19:42,639 --> 02:19:44,230
>> Okay.

3029
02:19:44,230 --> 02:19:44,240
» Okay.

3030
02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:46,389
>> All of those in favor, moving into close

3031
02:19:46,389 --> 02:19:46,399
» All of those in favor, moving into close

3032
02:19:46,399 --> 02:19:49,359
session.

3033
02:19:49,359 --> 02:19:51,200
All those in favor? Favor.

3034
02:19:51,200 --> 02:19:54,230
>> Thank you.

3035
02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:54,240
» Thank you.

3036
02:19:54,240 --> 04:23:18,630
Love it.

3037
04:23:18,640 --> 04:23:20,399
Okay, welcome back everybody. Just need

3038
04:23:20,399 --> 04:23:22,319
a motion to come out of close session,

3039
04:23:22,319 --> 04:23:25,520
please. So,

3040
04:23:25,520 --> 04:23:28,720
all in favor?

3041
04:23:28,720 --> 04:23:30,239
Done.

3042
04:23:30,239 --> 04:23:34,000
Okay. Um, going to new business. Does

3043
04:23:34,000 --> 04:23:35,760
anybody else have any or is it just

3044
04:23:35,760 --> 04:23:38,000
myself?

3045
04:23:38,000 --> 04:23:42,070
Okay.

3046
04:23:42,080 --> 04:23:45,359
So, I'm going to read this. This is uh

3047
04:23:45,359 --> 04:23:46,880
I'll leave it for some questions

3048
04:23:46,880 --> 04:23:50,159
afterwards, but this is just how how I'm

3049
04:23:50,159 --> 04:23:52,880
feeling right now. So,

3050
04:23:52,880 --> 04:23:55,439
uh, so I'm going to be direct. Enough is

3051
04:23:55,439 --> 04:23:57,120
enough. The matter involving the mayor

3052
04:23:57,120 --> 04:24:00,479
has gone too far, lasted too long, and

3053
04:24:00,479 --> 04:24:04,319
cost the taxpayers too much money.

3054
04:24:04,319 --> 04:24:07,359
The legal bills continue to increase.

3055
04:24:07,359 --> 04:24:10,880
Council continues spending time on this.

3056
04:24:10,880 --> 04:24:13,520
Administration continues spending time

3057
04:24:13,520 --> 04:24:16,640
on this. And ultimately, the taxpayers

3058
04:24:16,640 --> 04:24:19,359
continue paying for it.

3059
04:24:19,359 --> 04:24:22,159
My position is simple.

3060
04:24:22,159 --> 04:24:24,640
Let's resolve the matter. Bring the

3061
04:24:24,640 --> 04:24:27,920
mayor back. No new conditions, no

3062
04:24:27,920 --> 04:24:29,920
replacement conditions, no further

3063
04:24:29,920 --> 04:24:32,560
restrictions.

3064
04:24:32,560 --> 04:24:34,479
We also need to look seriously at the

3065
04:24:34,479 --> 04:24:37,760
process that brought us here.

3066
04:24:37,760 --> 04:24:39,439
Council was asked to make decisions

3067
04:24:39,439 --> 04:24:41,600
affecting the elected mayor without all

3068
04:24:41,600 --> 04:24:43,359
members having complete information

3069
04:24:43,359 --> 04:24:45,600
regarding the conditions associated with

3070
04:24:45,600 --> 04:24:49,359
his return. council did not know any of

3071
04:24:49,359 --> 04:24:51,920
those conditions. Some council did not

3072
04:24:51,920 --> 04:24:55,120
want to know any of them. I continue to

3073
04:24:55,120 --> 04:24:57,840
have serious problems with that. We had

3074
04:24:57,840 --> 04:24:59,920
a responsibility to know what we are

3075
04:24:59,920 --> 04:25:01,760
voting for.

3076
04:25:01,760 --> 04:25:03,520
We have a responsibility to ask

3077
04:25:03,520 --> 04:25:05,040
questions.

3078
04:25:05,040 --> 04:25:08,000
We have a responsibility to understand

3079
04:25:08,000 --> 04:25:13,910
the circumstances.

3080
04:25:13,920 --> 04:25:15,680
Then we have a responsibility to take

3081
04:25:15,680 --> 04:25:18,880
ownership of our votes.

3082
04:25:18,880 --> 04:25:21,439
If we do not know the conditions, did

3083
04:25:21,439 --> 04:25:23,760
not know whether they were reasonable

3084
04:25:23,760 --> 04:25:25,359
and did not know whether they were

3085
04:25:25,359 --> 04:25:28,000
achievable, then we should ask ourselves

3086
04:25:28,000 --> 04:25:29,920
what information supported the decision

3087
04:25:29,920 --> 04:25:32,960
that was made.

3088
04:25:32,960 --> 04:25:37,439
This is a governance question to me.

3089
04:25:37,439 --> 04:25:39,359
It is a question council should be

3090
04:25:39,359 --> 04:25:41,920
willing to examine.

3091
04:25:41,920 --> 04:25:43,680
There are also serious questions about

3092
04:25:43,680 --> 04:25:46,960
the conditions that were developed, how

3093
04:25:46,960 --> 04:25:48,960
authority was exercised throughout the

3094
04:25:48,960 --> 04:25:51,359
process, how compliance and determined

3095
04:25:51,359 --> 04:25:53,120
and whether council retained enough

3096
04:25:53,120 --> 04:25:55,439
oversight over decisions affecting the

3097
04:25:55,439 --> 04:25:58,080
elected member of council.

3098
04:25:58,080 --> 04:26:00,080
I am deliberately not assigning

3099
04:26:00,080 --> 04:26:02,399
responsibility for those matters in open

3100
04:26:02,399 --> 04:26:04,239
session.

3101
04:26:04,239 --> 04:26:06,080
There are issues associated with this

3102
04:26:06,080 --> 04:26:08,080
matter and deserve a more detailed

3103
04:26:08,080 --> 04:26:10,239
discussion in proper confidential

3104
04:26:10,239 --> 04:26:12,319
session.

3105
04:26:12,319 --> 04:26:15,680
That discussion should happen.

3106
04:26:15,680 --> 04:26:19,279
But the public should know this much.

3107
04:26:19,279 --> 04:26:21,680
Council has a responsibility to satisfy

3108
04:26:21,680 --> 04:26:24,880
itself that our processes were fair,

3109
04:26:24,880 --> 04:26:27,359
properly authorized, supported by

3110
04:26:27,359 --> 04:26:30,080
adequate information, and applied

3111
04:26:30,080 --> 04:26:32,479
consistently.

3112
04:26:32,479 --> 04:26:35,600
That brings me to another principle.

3113
04:26:35,600 --> 04:26:38,479
If council establishes a standard of

3114
04:26:38,479 --> 04:26:41,279
conduct for elected official, then we

3115
04:26:41,279 --> 04:26:43,920
must be prepared to apply comparable

3116
04:26:43,920 --> 04:26:46,399
standards consistently.

3117
04:26:46,399 --> 04:26:48,560
I am aware of other comments and conduct

3118
04:26:48,560 --> 04:26:50,239
involving individuals within the

3119
04:26:50,239 --> 04:26:52,960
municipal organization that in my view

3120
04:26:52,960 --> 04:26:55,040
raise serious questions when compared

3121
04:26:55,040 --> 04:26:57,760
with the standard applied to the mayor.

3122
04:26:57,760 --> 04:26:59,600
I am intentionally not naming

3123
04:26:59,600 --> 04:27:01,680
individuals or discussing the details

3124
04:27:01,680 --> 04:27:04,560
publicly. Those matters belong in an

3125
04:27:04,560 --> 04:27:07,359
appropriate setting, but council and the

3126
04:27:07,359 --> 04:27:10,080
public should understand where I stand.

3127
04:27:10,080 --> 04:27:12,720
I will not support selective

3128
04:27:12,720 --> 04:27:15,279
accountability. If we determine that

3129
04:27:15,279 --> 04:27:17,600
certain conduct warrants investigations,

3130
04:27:17,600 --> 04:27:19,359
restrictions, sanctions, or other

3131
04:27:19,359 --> 04:27:21,600
consequences, then we need to be

3132
04:27:21,600 --> 04:27:23,199
prepared to apply our standards

3133
04:27:23,199 --> 04:27:25,439
consistently.

3134
04:27:25,439 --> 04:27:27,840
Position

3135
04:27:27,840 --> 04:27:30,560
should not determine the standard.

3136
04:27:30,560 --> 04:27:32,560
Personal relationships should not

3137
04:27:32,560 --> 04:27:35,520
determine the standard. The individual

3138
04:27:35,520 --> 04:27:37,520
involved should not determine the

3139
04:27:37,520 --> 04:27:39,520
standard.

3140
04:27:39,520 --> 04:27:41,439
The standard should determine the

3141
04:27:41,439 --> 04:27:44,800
standard. If council continues down this

3142
04:27:44,800 --> 04:27:47,120
path, then I am prepared to pursue the

3143
04:27:47,120 --> 04:27:48,720
other concerns through appropriate

3144
04:27:48,720 --> 04:27:51,439
processes.

3145
04:27:51,439 --> 04:27:53,040
That is a conversation we should

3146
04:27:53,040 --> 04:27:56,560
continue in close session. Before we get

3147
04:27:56,560 --> 04:27:58,640
there though, I want council to think

3148
04:27:58,640 --> 04:28:01,359
about what continuing this conflict

3149
04:28:01,359 --> 04:28:04,000
means to this city.

3150
04:28:04,000 --> 04:28:06,560
More legal expense,

3151
04:28:06,560 --> 04:28:08,960
more council time,

3152
04:28:08,960 --> 04:28:12,479
more administrative time, more internal

3153
04:28:12,479 --> 04:28:14,800
division,

3154
04:28:14,800 --> 04:28:16,880
more attention taken away from the re

3155
04:28:16,880 --> 04:28:20,399
residents and city priorities.

3156
04:28:20,399 --> 04:28:24,159
At what point do we say enough?

3157
04:28:24,159 --> 04:28:26,000
The public would expect everything

3158
04:28:26,000 --> 04:28:28,640
required for August 18th to be ready to

3159
04:28:28,640 --> 04:28:31,520
avoid expensive ongoing legal bills. No

3160
04:28:31,520 --> 04:28:34,080
unnecessary delays, no incomplete

3161
04:28:34,080 --> 04:28:36,640
information, no avoiding a decision

3162
04:28:36,640 --> 04:28:39,840
because another opinion is being sought.

3163
04:28:39,840 --> 04:28:43,279
Legal counsel advises us. Council

3164
04:28:43,279 --> 04:28:45,199
ultimately has to make council's

3165
04:28:45,199 --> 04:28:53,189
decisions. We were elected to govern.

3166
04:28:53,199 --> 04:28:56,960
There is still time to do that. Well,

3167
04:28:56,960 --> 04:28:58,720
we have more than three years left in

3168
04:28:58,720 --> 04:29:00,479
this term. Three years to improve

3169
04:29:00,479 --> 04:29:02,560
infrastructure. Three years to improve

3170
04:29:02,560 --> 04:29:05,199
finances.

3171
04:29:05,199 --> 04:29:08,479
Three years to improve services,

3172
04:29:08,479 --> 04:29:11,120
attract development and investment.

3173
04:29:11,120 --> 04:29:13,120
Three years to rebuild confidence in

3174
04:29:13,120 --> 04:29:14,720
council.

3175
04:29:14,720 --> 04:29:16,560
Three years to leave a legacy that

3176
04:29:16,560 --> 04:29:23,910
people

3177
04:29:23,920 --> 04:29:32,309
of this city will be proud of.

3178
04:29:32,319 --> 04:29:35,760
There is uh in my opinion far too much

3179
04:29:35,760 --> 04:29:37,840
work ahead of us to spend the rest of

3180
04:29:37,840 --> 04:29:42,159
this term consumed by internal conflict.

3181
04:29:42,159 --> 04:29:46,000
bring the mayor back, end the matter,

3182
04:29:46,000 --> 04:29:47,920
and then let us continue the

3183
04:29:47,920 --> 04:29:49,680
confidential discussion that council

3184
04:29:49,680 --> 04:29:54,950
needs to have.

3185
04:29:54,960 --> 04:30:00,550
Let us get back to governing the city.

3186
04:30:00,560 --> 04:30:02,000
So, if you have any questions, I've got

3187
04:30:02,000 --> 04:30:03,680
a few, but if you have any questions,

3188
04:30:03,680 --> 04:30:10,149
please feel free right now.

3189
04:30:10,159 --> 04:30:15,349
answer.

3190
04:30:15,359 --> 04:30:17,760
» Mine is not a question.

3191
04:30:17,760 --> 04:30:27,110
Mine is a comment.

3192
04:30:27,120 --> 04:30:31,040
You use the word in your presentation

3193
04:30:31,040 --> 04:30:33,600
about being principled

3194
04:30:33,600 --> 04:30:35,760
as a council. [cough and clears throat]

3195
04:30:35,760 --> 04:30:37,349
>> I don't think I used the word principal,

3196
04:30:37,349 --> 04:30:37,359
» I don't think I used the word principal,

3197
04:30:37,359 --> 04:30:40,640
but okay.

3198
04:30:40,640 --> 04:30:43,531
And I am personally confident

3199
04:30:43,531 --> 04:30:44,159
[clears throat]

3200
04:30:44,159 --> 04:30:50,070
that I have been principled

3201
04:30:50,080 --> 04:30:54,149
in the entire process

3202
04:30:54,159 --> 04:30:56,640
and I have ultimate confidence that the

3203
04:30:56,640 --> 04:30:58,720
information we receive from from

3204
04:30:58,720 --> 04:31:07,510
administration and legal was principled

3205
04:31:07,520 --> 04:31:09,279
and I will not make any further comments

3206
04:31:09,279 --> 04:31:12,080
because it's before the courts.

3207
04:31:12,080 --> 04:31:17,590
Okay. Anyone else?

3208
04:31:17,600 --> 04:31:19,199
I don't think I used the word principal,

3209
04:31:19,199 --> 04:31:22,479
but where I'm ref referring there is I

3210
04:31:22,479 --> 04:31:25,279
asked multiple times after hearing that

3211
04:31:25,279 --> 04:31:27,120
he was being able to be brought back in

3212
04:31:27,120 --> 04:31:30,560
May. I just asked for terms and

3213
04:31:30,560 --> 04:31:33,040
conditions to see it.

3214
04:31:33,040 --> 04:31:35,600
It was not provided

3215
04:31:35,600 --> 04:31:38,159
was not provided to myself. I assume not

3216
04:31:38,159 --> 04:31:40,800
provided to everybody else yet. We're

3217
04:31:40,800 --> 04:31:44,560
asked to vote in support without knowing

3218
04:31:44,560 --> 04:31:46,720
what we're supporting. So that's where

3219
04:31:46,720 --> 04:31:47,279
I'm going.

3220
04:31:47,279 --> 04:31:50,070
>> Are you not disclosing confidential

3221
04:31:50,070 --> 04:31:50,080
» Are you not disclosing confidential

3222
04:31:50,080 --> 04:31:50,960
information?

3223
04:31:50,960 --> 04:31:53,110
>> No, I'm repeating what happened out in

3224
04:31:53,110 --> 04:31:53,120
» No, I'm repeating what happened out in

3225
04:31:53,120 --> 04:31:53,520
front of

3226
04:31:53,520 --> 04:31:54,950
>> in close session.

3227
04:31:54,950 --> 04:31:54,960
» in close session.

3228
04:31:54,960 --> 04:31:59,269
>> No, in front of global news

3229
04:31:59,269 --> 04:31:59,279
» No, in front of global news

3230
04:31:59,279 --> 04:32:03,750
was all reported.

3231
04:32:03,760 --> 04:32:06,880
I'm not repeating anything here.

3232
04:32:06,880 --> 04:32:13,670
that the public isn't aware of.

3233
04:32:13,680 --> 04:32:16,080
I I I I'd like to know and maybe you

3234
04:32:16,080 --> 04:32:18,800
can't answer it. So far, what's it cost

3235
04:32:18,800 --> 04:32:22,319
the city in this?

3236
04:32:22,319 --> 04:32:25,760
You might not be able to disclose that.

3237
04:32:25,760 --> 04:32:32,710
And that's that's an answer.

3238
04:32:32,720 --> 04:32:34,720
uh under legal advice administration

3239
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will not take part in this conversation.

3240
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>> Okay. Then the rest of my questions um

3241
04:32:45,760 --> 04:32:47,439
I don't have any other questions because

3242
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it's going to go that direction. So I'm

3243
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just going to pass on those questions.

3244
04:32:52,880 --> 04:32:55,199
But that's just where I stand.

3245
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I I I find the city is in big unrest

3246
04:32:59,120 --> 04:33:03,670
right now. And this is a big

3247
04:33:03,680 --> 04:33:07,600
a big portion of it.

3248
04:33:07,600 --> 04:33:09,520
And I just think we've got to come and

3249
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solve this quickly. I don't I don't want

3250
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to see this dragging out for years and

3251
04:33:14,080 --> 04:33:15,680
costing who knows I don't know what

3252
04:33:15,680 --> 04:33:21,429
lawyers charge but um

3253
04:33:21,439 --> 04:33:26,230
somehow we've got to get back and and

3254
04:33:26,240 --> 04:33:30,240
solve this issue sooner than later.

3255
04:33:30,240 --> 04:33:32,719
So that's where I stand. So no more

3256
04:33:32,719 --> 04:33:34,400
questions from me. Anyone else have

3257
04:33:34,400 --> 04:33:39,029
questions?

3258
04:33:39,039 --> 04:33:41,359
Then I uh am going to adjourn this

3259
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meeting at 1:31.

3260
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Thank you for your time.

3261
04:33:50,959 --> 04:33:53,600
» I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I almost called

3262
04:33:53,600 --> 04:33:56,240
you Tracy.