[0:00] All right. So, weing
[0:03] and Phil everyone's here except uh we're
[0:06] waiting on Jen.
[0:09] So, maybe we could
[0:12] I don't know. Did everybody get a chance
[0:14] to look at the minutes? I thought it was
[0:17] spot on. Yep.
[0:19] >> So, I guess I'll move that we accept the
[0:21] minutes as they're written.
[0:22] >> Second.
[0:24] >> All in favor?
[0:26] >> All right. Um, so we're gonna have the
[0:29] folks from the uh
[0:33] farm to school uh effort here a little
[0:36] later. So I thought we could kind of Why
[0:39] don't we Why don't we do um you want
[0:42] Dave, you want to talk about the signs
[0:44] here? Give us an update.
[0:45] >> Yeah. Okay. Um that new quote
[0:48] um for five signs with the artwork
[0:53] comes out $495
[0:56] for five signs with the artwork.
[0:59] >> Wow. Okay, great. And you want to do
[1:02] five? Well,
[1:03] >> yeah, that's what the quote was. We said
[1:05] five. So, if you want to
[1:07] >> No, no. I mean, we have 1,600 to spend
[1:10] >> and I have uh yours
[1:13] two signs.
[1:15] >> Okay. Yep. Yep. So, uh Amy Lali, we who
[1:20] works here in the town office and Jimmy
[1:22] Galanka both wanted a sign for a display
[1:27] that's going to be both on Route Five.
[1:29] We're not allowed to put one. It just
[1:32] off of the right away. Right. Yeah. So,
[1:34] I'm sure Jim will put it on his farm.
[1:36] Right. So, Okay. Well, that's uh that's
[1:39] great. How well
[1:40] >> I gota I get, you know, we have to
[1:42] figure out I'm going to bring up that
[1:44] one picture where digital. You got to
[1:48] have it digital.
[1:49] >> Yeah.
[1:49] >> Take a little time to get it digital,
[1:51] you know, to get it
[1:54] >> to. Okay. But Joanne can do that or
[1:57] >> we got a we got that one copy we had. We
[2:00] had the big sign with the blue
[2:03] background. That's copy. The only thing
[2:06] is the tractor in there is uh could be
[2:09] copyright because it's not uh
[2:14] took they took it off another picture.
[2:16] >> Okay. So, we can get the tractor, but
[2:18] they're they're going to when I go up
[2:19] there, we're going to figure it out.
[2:21] >> Okay.
[2:22] >> So, do you need a check? Is that kind of
[2:25] the next thing?
[2:26] >> I think so. Um they said they uh I got
[2:29] the I can leave this here.
[2:32] Keep it.
[2:32] >> Yeah, I'll take it. you know, but um um
[2:35] they want to deposit for like $971.
[2:39] >> Okay. Which is like
[2:42] >> three quarters of
[2:43] >> Yeah. The final balance is $323.75.
[2:48] » Okay. I bet the uh
[2:51] >> I bet the balance
[2:56] » why don't we um All right. Let me just
[2:58] talk Let me just talk to Peter. Um, so
[3:01] it was like 971
[3:03] versus like 1280 something.
[3:06] >> Yeah, 1295.
[3:07] >> 95.
[3:09] >> I don't know. Maybe this needs to put it
[3:11] in check.
[3:12] >> Yeah, it it probably is. I'll I'll let
[3:14] them decide. So
[3:17] >> if they want to do it between checks or
[3:19] one check and how much money?
[3:22] >> Yeah.
[3:23] >> How much was the um yours? Yeah, the two
[3:27] for
[3:27] >> uh $478.13
[3:32] because you're not uh the town doesn't
[3:34] get charged tax, right?
[3:35] >> This is private, so you were charged
[3:37] sales tax or $28.
[3:39] >> All right, so that's about $239 a piece.
[3:42] All right, that's less artwork than I
[3:44] told
[3:45] that's not bad.
[3:46] >> Yeah, that's
[3:48] the artwork
[3:50] included.
[3:52] >> Okay. Well, let me let me talk to Peter
[3:54] tomorrow and um and we'll just This is
[3:58] for you that it's made out to you.
[4:00] >> Oh, okay. So,
[4:03] I promise I'm not mark anything up. I'm
[4:05] just completing my ethics training.
[4:08] >> Can't pro. We have to do that every
[4:10] year.
[4:11] >> Two years.
[4:12] >> Well, there's one and that's I did want
[4:14] to mention it. Okay. Well, so let's finish up the signs here. So,
[4:17] let's let me talk to Peter and I'll just
[4:19] I'll call you. I'll find you and we'll
[4:21] just
[4:21] >> Yeah.
[4:23] Yeah.
[4:27] >> I'll bring what I You should bring where
[4:29] whatever you have.
[4:30] >> Yep.
[4:31] >> Okay.
[4:32] >> So, you just need like a free stock
[4:33] image of a tractor.
[4:35] >> Yeah. Yeah. Because um the ones we had
[4:38] there.
[4:40] >> Yeah. But it sounds like hail can
[4:42] provide, you know,
[4:44] >> you know, it's nice tractors and stuff,
[4:46] but it's almost, you know, something
[4:49] that
[4:49] >> they may be able to do make a minor
[4:53] change to it and it'll be
[4:55] >> it would be nice to try to that Joey. It
[4:58] looks nicer. I mean, it looks more like
[5:00] a farmer because it has,
[5:02] >> you know, the baseball hat maybe changed
[5:04] to get instead of a straw hat. The
[5:06] baseball hat, you know, most farmers got
[5:08] baseball hats. They don't have straw
[5:09] hats and
[5:10] >> Yeah. else, you know, that kind of
[5:11] thing.
[5:12] >> Okay. So, seems really uh helpful and
[5:15] interested. So, they really want to get
[5:18] going as soon as we can.
[5:20] >> Okay.
[5:22] So, we uh I told them, you know,
[5:25] we'll get the meeting today.
[5:32] » So, so my understanding is that we've
[5:34] chosen the artwork that was done by
[5:37] Joanne, right? And there there was there
[5:40] was a picture
[5:41] >> that that was like a digital ditch. She
[5:43] did got done for somebody that heard for
[5:45] her. So, okay, I can bring up that
[5:47] picture
[5:48] >> because we want to have a different kind
[5:50] of background, right? Show that
[5:52] basically shows a different background.
[5:54] >> Okay. So, so that's we're not nobody's
[5:57] talking about using that tractor image.
[5:59] We're just talking about using Joans,
[6:02] >> right?
[6:02] >> Okay. I just But
[6:04] >> unless they can't do it, but I would
[6:05] think they'd be able to do it because
[6:07] everything's digital. Well, they can
[6:08] get, you know, they got
[6:11] somehow.
[6:12] >> If if they can't, then we'll find out
[6:14] why they can't. We'll just take care of
[6:16] Yeah.
[6:18] >> Okay. We have our next We have our next
[6:21] move on that. That's great. Um, so, uh,
[6:25] yeah. Curious. Will this be installed by
[6:28] the spring, you think, or?
[6:30] >> I guess probably. I would think if we
[6:32] got the signs, you know. Yeah, I think
[6:35] some afternoon, you know, once the signs
[6:37] are made, I think they want to put them
[6:38] right up. The highway department, he
[6:40] said some they were going to do it.
[6:43] >> Yeah. And they got the poles, any kind
[6:45] of poles that would work, you know. So,
[6:47] >> right. Of course, they're pretty good
[6:49] size signs 18 by 24.
[6:53] >> So, we're going to like mark like put a
[6:55] stake in the ground or something where
[6:56] they go.
[6:57] >> I think they're going to try to put them
[6:59] on existing poles. Okay. So, and if and
[7:03] if that doesn't work out for any reason,
[7:05] I think there was some thinking we might
[7:07] have.
[7:07] >> Yeah, we have uh five different
[7:09] locations. I think two on River Road to
[7:12] up by um coming from Conway by the
[7:15] reservoir the one right there
[7:18] >> u from the reservoir from coming from
[7:20] Williamsburg to from Williamsburg this
[7:24] way the way he put one there. That's
[7:26] some place to find a school or
[7:27] something.
[7:28] >> Sales.
[7:29] >> Mhm.
[7:30] >> On the school entryway.
[7:32] >> Yeah.
[7:34] >> Cases.
[7:36] >> Great place to start.
[7:39] >> Yeah. Yeah. Um
[7:43] All right. Good. Um so I guess next on
[7:47] the list here is the weightly scoop
[7:49] spring summer inclusion. The big
[7:52] beautiful bill was volunteered
[7:57] arm twisted to be the
[8:02] » to be the liaison the soup. So signal
[8:06] team and we need to buy was it
[8:10] >> I I put my most recent scoop in excill
[8:24] » anyway I think it says in the back
[8:28] in case you're three or so
[8:31] seems like it's more than four times a
[8:33] year seems like it does, but it's not
[8:36] like always a little bit of mailbox or
[8:39] spoons.
[8:41] >> So, um I think it would be great if we
[8:43] hit the next edition with sort of maybe
[8:46] a an explanation of what what everyone's
[8:49] going to see as they drive around town.
[8:54] And I honestly I sat down a couple times
[8:56] to because we kept missing scoop
[8:58] deadlines by like four hours. And I I
[9:03] was sitting down to try to write
[9:04] something after having read this right
[9:06] like actually read the right to farm
[9:09] bylaws. And it's really kind of like
[9:12] you know it it's written to protect
[9:15] farmers from nuisance lawsuits and and
[9:17] the you know it's like kind of hard. I
[9:20] know Bill's gonna do a good job, but I
[9:22] think it'll be tricky to kind of not
[9:24] sound like, hey, we're going to do
[9:26] whatever we want, right?
[9:28] >> You know,
[9:29] >> and you're going to deal with nothing
[9:31] you can do about it. This is why. And
[9:33] so, it's going to be a little bit tricky
[9:35] to tone the thing, right, for, you know,
[9:38] >> the public
[9:38] >> general consumption. Yeah. But, uh, you
[9:41] could add something about like the
[9:42] pamphlets and the and the farm and the
[9:46] signs going up to kind of tone it down a
[9:50] little bit, you know, and like
[9:51] >> have it be sort of an inclusive
[9:54] community vibe to it.
[9:55] >> Yeah. So, you know, a lot of important
[9:57] agricultures in the town area.
[10:00] >> Yeah. And we got the best we got the we
[10:03] got a word smith on it.
[10:05] >> That's correct.
[10:06] So no to the
[10:10] Joey and Danny for
[10:15] » Yeah. Jo.
[10:18] It actually might be kind of nice if we
[10:20] could get a picture. Do they do pictures
[10:22] on the scoop from
[10:28] » on every page?
[10:30] Um, I wonder if we could get a picture
[10:32] of maybe Joanne with next to one of the
[10:35] signs.
[10:37] >> She She So, she was the artist for this.
[10:39] >> Correct. Yeah.
[10:41] >> Be good for spring or summer or summer.
[10:44] >> And then I wonder if maybe we could get
[10:46] the updated pamphlet in the June
[10:49] >> the uh the June edition.
[10:52] >> Sorry, we threw you off. That's okay.
[10:54] Just hung out with the folks over there
[10:56] for a while like Right.
[11:01] >> Like, oh, wait a minute. They're talking
[11:02] about important things.
[11:08] » Oh, thanks for coming, Teresa.
[11:10] >> Thanks.
[11:12] >> Um, I don't know. Any any thoughts about
[11:16] that? You want to write something about
[11:18] it? Maybe bring it for us to look at
[11:20] next month? Sure. We're talking about
[11:22] Bob.
[11:24] I mean, there's a lot of things we can
[11:25] discuss.
[11:27] >> Yeah. I think maybe I mean my a couple
[11:30] subjects here, but we're limited in what
[11:32] we can
[11:33] >> Yeah, we're doing something every issue. You know, I think mo a lot
[11:40] of town committees, you know, historical
[11:42] society, etc., etc. kind of checks in,
[11:46] >> you know, this is
[11:48] >> Yeah. the housing committee, the giving
[11:50] garden here, you know,
[11:53] housing committee up. Yeah. So, you
[11:55] know, there's and I think it's also kind
[11:58] of an advertisement for participation to
[12:00] an extent, too. Yeah. You know,
[12:04] >> um yeah. So, I don't know. The signs uh
[12:07] look for
[12:11] participating in uh garden renovations
[12:14] at the elementary school.
[12:19] Okay.
[12:23] All right. Great. Thank you for doing
[12:25] that.
[12:26] >> Haven't done your head.
[12:30] Proud of you already.
[12:33] Oh, okay. And then this do I have?
[12:37] Um, thank you.
[12:41] All right. So, Teresa is here from the
[12:45] farm to school
[12:47] group. Uh, just you or Megan or just
[12:52] Oh.
[12:54] So, we're you're in the sort of uh
[12:56] stages of planning uh some renovations
[12:59] of the garden. You're trying to jive
[13:01] with the the landscaping proposals that were submitted
[13:06] >> and I I've made some copies.
[13:09] >> Awesome. I can share those. These are
[13:11] the It's the approved draft.
[13:14] >> Yep.
[13:14] >> So, it's not going to be finalized, I
[13:17] think, until the spring. Um
[13:21] but there it is. And I think it said um
[13:26] how much space was was allowable, but
[13:29] it's considered
[13:30] >> I think 2,000.
[13:33] >> Yeah. Which is great.
[13:35] >> Um it's small.
[13:37] Uh but you can see the garden beds, the
[13:40] raised vegetable and herb
[13:44] beds. One, two, four, eight.
[13:48] Um
[13:50] >> yep.
[13:50] >> On there. So yeah, so that was good to
[13:53] because that was, you know, one of my
[13:55] concerns thinking about going in in the
[13:59] spring is just making sure we were
[14:01] fitting in that within that bigger plan.
[14:05] >> Um, but yeah, there looks like there's a
[14:07] lot of room. And then on the back, I
[14:09] believe it's phase
[14:12] proposed phen. Yeah.
[14:16] >> Or just it just explains their basics,
[14:19] >> right? They weren't going to try to do
[14:20] everything at once,
[14:22] >> right?
[14:27] » Um,
[14:28] we were actually going to try um to
[14:31] schedule a kind of community garden day
[14:34] in April. Um, to try to get folks, you
[14:38] know, more buying from the community,
[14:40] more people involved. Um, and we have a
[14:44] small budget for materials and soil and
[14:48] things like that. Um,
[14:51] but I've wondered if we could coordinate
[14:53] in terms of timing
[14:55] >> and if you can let me know um, you know,
[14:59] materials if you could make some
[15:01] recommendations that great of things
[15:03] that we should prepare for.
[15:05] >> Right. Right. Um, so do you have a a
[15:08] sense of what you want to try to get
[15:10] done this spring?
[15:12] Well, I mean, anything we do is going to
[15:15] be an improvement. I mean, there's right
[15:18] like um
[15:18] >> there's nowhere to go but up.
[15:20] >> There's nowhere to go but
[15:22] >> um so I think you had mentioned some
[15:24] renovation on the the raspberries
[15:27] because they kids love the raspberries
[15:29] there. Yeah.
[15:30] >> Um and so we want to make sure we keep
[15:32] them. Um,
[15:34] but maybe clean them up a little bit and
[15:36] I can contact
[15:39] » if we can get some more.
[15:44] » Oh, hi.
[15:47] >> We might be looking for donated
[15:49] blueberry and raspberry.
[15:52] >> I think I know those.
[15:55] >> Do you know a guy?
[16:00] » That person I ever use is Rachel.
[16:04] facial with my neck. Okay. Yep. Anyway,
[16:08] >> I've tried best.
[16:09] >> Okay.
[16:10] >> Um but you know, we're pretty
[16:14] the school hasn't shared any like
[16:16] specific needs. They just want they just
[16:19] want a space where they can get out
[16:20] there in the dirt.
[16:21] >> Y
[16:22] >> um we've been working with um in each of
[16:24] the schools we have kind of a lead
[16:26] educator. And so lately it's Amy Tibbit
[16:29] in the third grade. Um and she's been
[16:32] wonderful. She's just super anxious to
[16:34] get the kids out there. So um we're
[16:37] actually starting with um some garlic.
[16:39] We're doing some unconventional garlic
[16:42] planning. Um we're seeing some spring
[16:44] garlic and doing some containers and
[16:46] things like that in the classroom. And
[16:48] we actually were were purchasing an
[16:51] indoor grow pack for that class so that
[16:54] each of the classes within they can have
[16:57] their own like tray and starts. We were
[16:59] hoping we could do some starters for
[17:02] when we get the garden
[17:03] >> and just get something out there, you
[17:05] know, just get it going.
[17:07] >> Sure.
[17:08] >> Um because these plants are super
[17:09] exciting and look
[17:11] >> awesome and comprehensive and it's going
[17:13] to take a while. So, we're trying to get
[17:17] things.
[17:19] >> Yeah.
[17:20] It's pretty cool.
[17:23] >> Um so, yeah, we're just beginning to do
[17:26] the planning for the garden restoration.
[17:28] So, I'm I'm really open. We are very
[17:30] open to you.
[17:31] >> Sure.
[17:33] >> Well, I know, you know, we had been
[17:34] talking I had been talking with Amy
[17:37] about trying to support
[17:39] they I thought they were going to do a
[17:41] community garden.
[17:43] >> Yeah.
[17:43] >> And we were talking about supporting
[17:45] that and then I'm not hearing too much
[17:47] talk about that. Eric, are you tuned
[17:48] into the
[17:49] >> Yeah. So, I have a little bit I was
[17:51] going to say at the end I can give a
[17:53] little
[17:53] >> Okay. It's it's it's
[17:57] slow. Um they've done like updates on
[18:01] mission statement and values and kind of
[18:05] what the proposal is. They have a
[18:07] meeting on Thursday that I'm hoping to
[18:09] zoom into.
[18:10] >> Um and then I'll be able to report more.
[18:14] But uh right now it's I have like some
[18:17] basics on what like the mission
[18:18] statement is and
[18:19] >> okay
[18:20] >> things like that. and they're trying to
[18:22] they're going to do a scoop article. Um,
[18:25] and they're trying to, you know, get
[18:27] people
[18:29] interested in the in the idea of the
[18:31] project.
[18:32] >> Okay. Okay. I I know I had I had some
[18:35] lumber mil to make raised beds,
[18:38] >> right?
[18:38] >> And and it's there. And I've also got
[18:41] some other stuff that could go for that,
[18:43] you know, for that. of this. And I know
[18:45] Mike, you were talking. I can I can
[18:47] throw some views of
[18:49] >> potting soil at it. You could throw some
[18:52] compost at it. I'm sure there's some
[18:53] parent material to work with, too. So,
[18:56] oh, I'll figure these three roughly.
[18:59] >> Well, that's part of the plan.
[19:01] >> I think we said a 4x4, right?
[19:04] >> Small smaller.
[19:06] >> Yeah. I mean, I guess we wanted to see
[19:08] what the school wanted ultimately.
[19:10] >> Yeah. But I think the ones we're talking
[19:12] about for you know
[19:13] >> Yeah, that's I'm confusing the two. I
[19:15] think with Amy I just said 4x4 is a
[19:18] yard. So it's
[19:20] >> Do you know what I mean? Like 4x4 foot
[19:23] high is one yard of material.
[19:25] >> Oh, okay.
[19:26] >> So that keeps it like
[19:28] >> Yeah.
[19:28] >> easy. Or you could do a 4x8. It's too
[19:32] you know something.
[19:33] >> Okay.
[19:34] >> A four a 4x 8 8 in two. A 4x8 is 32 *
[19:39] 2/3
[19:41] 64.
[19:43] >> Is it a 4x8 is a yard? I can't remember.
[19:45] I had it all figured out when I
[19:47] >> because 4x8 is 32 squared.
[19:50] >> And then if you multiply that by 2/3
[19:55] I can figure it out in a second, but
[19:56] there's a handy guard calculator that I
[19:59] came up with for our website.
[20:00] >> 21 and a3.4.
[20:06] Okay. So yeah, so a 4x8 and 8 in high is
[20:10] a little less than a yard.
[20:12] >> Yeah.
[20:13] >> Um
[20:15] so that's actually that's kind of a good
[20:16] number to to remember. But um
[20:19] >> yeah, it's a 4 by8 if you don't fill it
[20:22] a foot, you know, 10 in is the yard.
[20:25] >> Okay.
[20:25] >> Because I always tell people not to fill
[20:27] them all the way at the top
[20:29] >> because then you can't buy more compost.
[20:33] No, but like you want to you can't just
[20:35] you just put it in there and then never
[20:36] put add anything,
[20:38] >> right? You plant. Yeah.
[20:40] >> Yeah. You got to add some top dressing
[20:42] compost every year, you know.
[20:44] >> Right.
[20:45] >> Okay. All right. So, that that gives us
[20:47] a good reference. But I mean, I think I
[20:49] think some folks here are ready to
[20:51] contribute, you know, the actual
[20:53] materials and, you know, perhaps be
[20:55] reimbursed in a tiny way. Um if it if
[20:59] you know but um it sound you know it
[21:02] sounded like you had enough money to
[21:03] play with to at least get started.
[21:05] >> I think so.
[21:06] >> Yeah. I'd love to get a couple apple
[21:09] trees in there.
[21:11] >> Yeah, I think there's space for that,
[21:13] too.
[21:14] >> Yeah. Yeah, cuz it looks like they have
[21:16] like several.
[21:18] >> Yeah,
[21:20] >> we can probably get a cherry to put in
[21:22] there. We're putting some cherries in
[21:24] ours this spring. Okay. I'm sure I can
[21:26] just take one or two
[21:29] >> cuz yeah, maybe
[21:31] I I'll talk with Bailey about it. He
[21:34] knows more. But uh yeah, it probably
[21:37] isn't too. And I mean, I don't know if
[21:38] it's an interest, but I've got a ton of
[21:40] chestnuts that
[21:43] they get pretty big and you definitely
[21:45] need two to produce nuts, but they're up
[21:48] for grabs. One thought I'm having about
[21:51] cherries is I think when they're
[21:54] pickable, the kids aren't going to be
[21:55] there.
[21:56] >> Well, right. Yeah, they're they're going
[21:57] to be July.
[22:00] >> Yeah, June and July. No. Yeah, they'll
[22:02] be a little earlier,
[22:04] >> I think. End of June. Cherries.
[22:07] >> Yeah, let me check. Yeah, that's
[22:10] >> summer programming. Not a whole lot.
[22:12] There's a little bit at the time.
[22:15] >> Okay. Well, if you wanted some
[22:18] technology on getting the blueberries
[22:20] and the raspberry planted, you just have
[22:22] to contact me.
[22:23] >> Do a little school.
[22:25] >> Yeah.
[22:26] >> Oh, that would be great.
[22:27] >> Cool.
[22:27] >> That'd be really cool.
[22:28] >> Okay.
[22:31] >> One thought I had actually after I read
[22:33] your email there, Teresa, today was one way, you know, we could certainly
[22:39] the Acom could earmark funds for this.
[22:41] How cool would this be? Like this time
[22:44] of year, the sixth grade plans a gift
[22:49] for the kindergarteners
[22:51] like a tree
[22:53] >> or a bird bath or something for the
[22:55] garden and then it gets ordered. That's
[22:58] something we can pay for, right? And
[23:00] then you know and then before they go in
[23:02] the spring they you know plant get the
[23:04] tree planted
[23:05] >> like
[23:08] those kindergarteners do the same thing
[23:10] when they see the thing grow up you know
[23:13] and and make fruit a few you know when
[23:15] they're a few years later
[23:20] » so this number two area
[23:23] is this something that's kind of loosely
[23:25] planned out or it looks like the rocks
[23:30] It says it says natural playground.
[23:33] >> Playground.
[23:34] >> Is that
[23:36] should be that's so that's to north of
[23:38] the basketball field. So it's going to
[23:40] be like a little minefield of like
[23:42] things that they can jump and climb.
[23:45] >> I think so. I I I think these snake
[23:48] these sort of snaking uh stone paths are
[23:52] to control erosion in in natural the
[23:56] natural flow of rain, you know, coming
[23:58] off the building and
[23:59] >> and just in general back there. I
[24:04] >> I mean, if it's if it's anything like it
[24:06] was in 1980, the kids are going to be
[24:08] throwing these rocks at each other, you
[24:10] know.
[24:11] >> Well, I I do wonder about that. I I feel
[24:15] like every school that we talk to about
[24:17] gardens, when we speak to the
[24:19] maintenance folks, that's like the first
[24:21] thing they say. No small rocks.
[24:24] >> Right. Right.
[24:27] >> It's large rocks.
[24:28] >> Large rocks.
[24:29] is something our farm has
[24:32] quite a lot. We'd be happy to contribute
[24:35] >> for the hardscape
[24:37] >> rocks. We have a gravel bank, so there's
[24:39] lots of sort of, you know, ranging
[24:43] bouldery sizes to some that are quite
[24:45] big, but cool. Just need to get them
[24:48] transported over there. I don't think I
[24:50] have anything safe enough to do that
[24:51] right now, but when the time comes,
[24:54] >> yeah,
[24:55] >> you know, we can go pick around in
[24:56] there.
[24:57] >> Yeah.
[24:58] >> Who's the like who is there?
[25:00] >> So, what you're looking at is you you
[25:02] could explain it as well. So,
[25:04] >> actually went to the the walks. You
[25:06] know, more than I can tell. This is um
[25:08] Landscape Interactions is a company in
[25:11] Leiden that's owned by Okay.
[25:12] >> this guy Evan that's
[25:14] >> a designer.
[25:15] >> Yes. Yes. And so these are he got a
[25:19] grant or the town got a grant hired him
[25:21] I guess they're his company to do these
[25:25] pollinator friendly landscaping
[25:27] proposals.
[25:29] The next thing that has to happen is the
[25:32] grant now that you have in design you
[25:34] can go get the grants foration
[25:38] but
[25:40] >> that's not kind of yet planned that
[25:43] >> yeah this I think this actually is
[25:45] finalized in June or July maybe and then
[25:50] some of this you know their their phase
[25:52] three here at the school is 2029
[25:57] » um so this you
[25:59] I think that's what kind seeing that and the timing here motivated me to try
[26:04] to get in and you know jump on the guard
[26:07] >> and in the near future
[26:13] motivate to continue with the rest of it
[26:16] too. Yeah. You know the gardens in
[26:18] >> right
[26:22] again. Yeah. And you know, now they're
[26:25] just remembering the uh I don't are
[26:28] chestnuts an allergen.
[26:30] >> I wonder.
[26:33] >> Yeah. Yeah, they probably are. Tree nut
[26:37] might not be a great choice.
[26:39] >> I don't know. Like at what point are
[26:41] they an allergen? Is it just the pollen
[26:43] or is it once they're actually shelled?
[26:44] Because they're spitefuls.
[26:46] >> So you're not That's the other thing.
[26:48] They are. Well, yeah, they might not be
[26:50] a great choice for that would be
[26:52] >> I like your idea, though.
[26:54] >> Yeah. I'm just saying they're a bad
[26:58] thing about across the street and not
[27:00] big like around that huge open.
[27:02] >> Oh, sure. Yeah. Above parking lot.
[27:04] >> Yeah.
[27:05] You definitely want somewhere
[27:07] where people aren't like walking a lot
[27:09] or walking barefoot, you know,
[27:13] >> like I mean they're beautiful, but Yeah.
[27:15] There's fireballs.
[27:16] >> Yeah. Yeah. They're really fun. That can
[27:17] be fun to throw.
[27:19] >> Yeah, I was just thinking
[27:20] >> hard to pick up a six-year-old wing or
[27:23] something.
[27:24] >> Your leather work.
[27:26] >> Can the trees go in like as soon as they
[27:29] we have them so that they can start like
[27:31] getting established or is is like the
[27:33] work have to sort of be done when the
[27:36] people are hired to do the work? Oh, I
[27:39] mean I think as long as we're working
[27:42] kind of,
[27:43] you know, following this guide, I think
[27:46] we could do,
[27:47] >> you know, whatever.
[27:49] >> Yep.
[27:50] >> What kind of work is involved in the
[27:54] remaining the raspberries? Like I know
[27:56] you looked at them. Is it like they have
[27:58] been totally neglected or do they just
[28:00] need to get mowed down or bend or
[28:05] >> you know there's oak probably that oak
[28:09] trees a few of them that big around
[28:11] growing up through it.
[28:12] >> Okay.
[28:13] >> I think they I don't know if they've
[28:14] been mowed. I don't know if they get
[28:16] mowed in the fall
[28:17] >> or if
[28:20] I don't know. I when I saw them it would
[28:23] they were it was
[28:24] >> well they they could have raspberries on
[28:26] them then they you can treat a primacine
[28:28] like a floropane right and prune it and
[28:31] you want some help in pruning that
[28:34] a little experience.
[28:36] >> Yeah. Yeah. No, we I would like to
[28:38] renovate it. Everything over there looks
[28:40] like it needs fertilizer in a bad way
[28:42] and the raspberries that they keep are
[28:44] way too dense.
[28:46] >> Okay.
[28:48] >> It needs to be rotatilled. I think the
[28:50] trellis needs work. Um, they felt like
[28:54] Chrissy said that they thought it was
[28:56] very productive. It didn't look like it
[28:58] could possibly be very productive to me.
[29:02] >> Well, with a lot of canes, it could have
[29:04] a lot of berries on it, but
[29:05] >> might not be very efficient at size.
[29:08] Yeah.
[29:09] >> Remedies if you want to set up a
[29:13] >> a thing that remedy it. That'll be part of our work I think
[29:18] there in the spring.
[29:19] >> Okay.
[29:19] >> And it will go right through it.
[29:21] >> Um I almost think it might be worth
[29:23] starting a second row
[29:26] >> and when it's productive
[29:28] >> then get rid of the old one.
[29:30] >> Yeah.
[29:30] >> I I would suggest that as well.
[29:33] >> Yeah.
[29:36] >> No. How many raspberry plants would be
[29:39] thinking of planting? How how long a
[29:41] row?
[29:41] >> I think it's a 50ft row.
[29:43] >> 25 plants. Yeah, that's easy. But, you
[29:47] know, you could um you could pot those
[29:51] up in the classroom
[29:53] and then plant them out there
[29:56] >> as a so that they have some activity
[30:02] them watching them start.
[30:06] >> I'd say sometime
[30:09] into May, 1 of June. So, you don't want
[30:12] to too do you don't want to have have
[30:13] them too leggy, but
[30:15] >> right,
[30:16] >> you just want to have them established.
[30:18] Then you dig a hole or or the pot and
[30:24] >> Yeah.
[30:24] Maybe they can get them in the
[30:26] ground before they leave for the summer.
[30:28] Yeah. Right.
[30:29] >> Yeah. Start them at the end of the year
[30:30] and then
[30:31] >> come back in the fall.
[30:32] and they're
[30:34] they've grown.
[30:35] >> Yeah.
[30:35] >> You know that.
[30:36] >> Is there water there for someone?
[30:38] There's actually really a pretty
[30:40] convenient water source there.
[30:41] >> Okay. Was it a water?
[30:44] >> Well, I was just thinking that um their
[30:46] head maintainer um I have to chat with
[30:49] him next week. Um he's he's been really
[30:52] supportive and I I think that this is
[30:54] something that he would he would help in
[30:56] that way.
[30:57] >> Oh, very plans.
[31:00] So, yeah. Yeah. beginning. We could uh
[31:04] say I know I got a ton of tea tape.
[31:08] We could we could put a roll of trickle
[31:10] right there.
[31:10] >> Yeah, that work.
[31:11] >> Throw a pressure reducer in there. Put a
[31:14] network of trickle.
[31:15] >> You can just check on it basically.
[31:17] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[31:18] >> We can have um I have a little bit of of
[31:22] money set aside for irrigation.
[31:24] >> Okay.
[31:24] >> So, if we get something
[31:28] >> Okay.
[31:29] >> We can put it out there.
[31:30] >> Okay. Well, I mean, it seems like ideas
[31:32] are kind of flowing. So, uh um is there a you said you're going to have
[31:39] a planning meeting?
[31:42] >> Yeah, I mean that we're just we thought
[31:44] we could set a date for um like like I
[31:48] said like a community work day and then
[31:50] we can do all the planning until then of
[31:52] what we need and and the different jobs
[31:54] for folks.
[31:56] >> Um yeah, but we'll meet more planning
[31:59] meetings.
[32:00] >> Okay. what exactly we're going to do.
[32:02] >> Okay. I mean, I I I don't see why we
[32:05] couldn't I don't think it would be, you
[32:07] know, I wouldn't want to say we could do
[32:10] eight 4x8 beds and promise Mike's going
[32:15] to bring all the material needed to fill
[32:17] it. That That's all order.
[32:19] >> Yeah. I know.
[32:20] >> But, you know, we could maybe there's
[32:23] some money to buy half of it or some of
[32:26] it could be some used toing soil from me. made some parent material to
[32:31] work with. But, you know, if
[32:32] >> Yeah, we could probably do like 80
[32:33] yards. That's not
[32:35] >> between like Yeah, it's
[32:37] >> between the the all the Okay.
[32:39] >> Yeah, we'll make it work.
[32:41] >> All right. All right.
[32:42] >> Why don't I get you like a firm budget
[32:45] of what we can we can work with too and
[32:47] then that'll
[32:49] know what we got.
[32:50] >> Yeah. All right.
[32:52] >> Um and then we can kind of plot out how
[32:56] we're going to do this.
[32:57] >> Okay.
[32:59] All right, good. What if if you got me
[33:02] that info and we kind of pulled some
[33:04] ideas and kind of came up with uh maybe
[33:07] a proposal that we could give to you.
[33:10] >> Sure.
[33:10] >> Okay. Or, you know, February or March or
[33:13] something like that.
[33:14] >> This is where she might be here, too.
[33:16] She can be like she she's got ideas,
[33:19] too.
[33:20] >> Yeah. And I don't want to put too much
[33:22] on yellow either. So, we're
[33:24] >> we're we're in it. We can be part of
[33:26] that meeting.
[33:27] >> Okay. Well, but why don't you, me and
[33:30] Megan talk and then we'll just put a day
[33:32] together to think about it.
[33:33] >> That sounds good.
[33:34] >> So, is it the four frontier towns that
[33:37] are having gardens?
[33:39] >> Yeah.
[33:40] >> Okay.
[33:40] >> And um Frontier Regional, too.
[33:44] >> Four schools, elementary and then Yeah.
[33:46] Wow. All schools.
[33:47] >> We're trying.
[33:48] >> That's awesome.
[33:50] >> Have any of the other schools had guards
[33:52] before or
[33:54] >> Sure. Um, you know, I think the I think
[33:59] there's a statistic on school gardens
[34:01] that in the past they often cycle in
[34:03] like three years um because they often
[34:06] have like a champion or a couple people
[34:08] in the community are like we need to do
[34:09] this and then it happens and then it
[34:11] kind of
[34:13] >> tears out. So what we're trying to do is
[34:16] set up gardens in a way that can be more
[34:19] sustainable
[34:20] >> um is so cool.
[34:22] >> Right. I think Conway had I donated
[34:25] something last year for Conway, so they
[34:27] had a good Yeah.
[34:28] >> Yeah, we're working on that one. That's
[34:29] going to be a big garden there.
[34:31] >> Yeah, that's what I the impression I
[34:33] got.
[34:33] >> Yeah. Yeah, that's a big project. So,
[34:36] yeah, it's exciting.
[34:39] >> Um there was something else I wanted to
[34:41] run past. Um Frontier Regional is doing
[34:45] a career fair March 25th.
[34:49] Um, and we were wondering if if anyone
[34:52] knows of um, farms who hire,
[34:58] you know, seniors who have recently
[35:00] graduated. We're looking to have some
[35:02] folks come and be available for students
[35:05] to talk to about employment
[35:06] opportunities.
[35:08] So, I don't know if anyone has ideas
[35:10] about that. like full of leaves.
[35:14] >> I wish I would have one or two for like
[35:18] a summer job.
[35:19] >> Yeah,
[35:20] >> it seems like
[35:21] >> um
[35:22] >> the truth.
[35:24] >> Should be doing more of that. I always
[35:26] have
[35:27] >> help kind of on call. It's nice to have
[35:30] like somebody who's just kind of like if
[35:32] you need them, you know, a few hours to
[35:34] do during the week.
[35:35] >> Yeah.
[35:36] >> Can provide something to do.
[35:39] >> Find me a
[35:40] And it's Scott Farm.
[35:49] » Yeah,
[35:50] >> I'll just say I can definitely have be
[35:53] on the list for them.
[35:54] >> Okay.
[35:56] >> So, were you looking for a list of farms
[35:59] that might be looking to Okay.
[36:02] >> Well, I think that that's
[36:05] like that's one piece of it. And then if
[36:08] there's a farm that's like we're
[36:10] recruiting
[36:11] >> students then you could actually come to
[36:13] the career fair
[36:15] >> and talk to students and it could even
[36:16] be like you know just talking about
[36:20] agriculture as a career path.
[36:22] >> Um we're going to have GCC Tony Briber
[36:25] from GCC come and talk about their
[36:28] program there. Great.
[36:29] >> Um but this would be more of a like
[36:31] directly into the field kind of um kind
[36:36] of opportunity or guidance on that.
[36:39] >> So the whole thing is there's so many
[36:42] career path I mean this is this plant
[36:43] breeding pathology
[36:46] >> aronomy um which you can go to school
[36:50] for
[36:50] >> right
[36:51] >> not necessarily out there digging up the
[36:53] weeds you know
[36:54] >> I guess
[36:56] >> aren't built for that anymore.
[36:58] >> Well we need to get them back
[37:01] to
[37:01] >> get them back to you. Uh, okay. If I
[37:04] ever break their arms,
[37:05] >> tobacco for a summer
[37:08] options, you know, like like I think
[37:10] some kids like the path that they're on
[37:13] is are those are those, you know, um,
[37:16] sciences and and a four-year degree. And
[37:19] then for some kids,
[37:21] >> they need something right away um to get into. So, we're just hoping to
[37:27] provide something for everyone.
[37:30] I I don't know anybody who hires high
[37:32] school kids anymore. I
[37:34] >> hired a high school kid last summer.
[37:37] >> How did it work out?
[37:38] >> It was pretty good. He's great. I won't
[37:41] bad mouth him here.
[37:44] >> Being recorded.
[37:49] » But that said, I mean like yeah, I do
[37:51] like meeting cruise, you know, part-time
[37:53] meeting cruise. I won't be here on the
[37:55] 25th, but uh
[37:58] don't worry.
[37:58] >> I'm just trying to think how could we,
[38:01] you know, do we have how functional is
[38:04] our like email out to all the farms in
[38:07] town list?
[38:08] >> I mean, it's current as of last year.
[38:10] So, I don't think there's many new farms
[38:12] that have come to town,
[38:14] >> right,
[38:14] >> last six months. I mean, I'm just
[38:16] wondering if we should just put that
[38:19] >> just
[38:20] >> put that out there and if anyone, you
[38:22] know, we could if maybe do you want to
[38:24] just get
[38:25] >> the contact info and then just we send
[38:28] one out for the adcom email.
[38:31] >> That would be amazing.
[38:32] >> And then just, you know, let us know and
[38:33] you we can get you on a list for
[38:36] >> I don't know how to word it exactly, but
[38:38] >> yeah. Um, I could I could just draft
[38:41] something and then
[38:43] >> I could
[38:46] send it to that from um email.
[38:49] >> Yeah.
[38:49] >> Okay.
[38:50] >> You see that, right?
[38:51] >> Mhm.
[38:52] >> Okay.
[38:53] >> You don't have your own, do you?
[38:54] >> No.
[38:55] >> Okay. Okay.
[38:57] >> Do you know Penny and Dan Simmerski?
[38:59] They're in Sunderland, but that's what I
[39:01] picked asparagus for, you know, really.
[39:03] >> Yeah. And they do weeding as well, but
[39:05] my focus was asparagus.
[39:09] Yeah, but they have primarily a Vietnam
[39:12] crew or something. I think they
[39:13] >> do. They now
[39:14] >> they have
[39:15] >> I mean it's changed since I was in high
[39:16] school. I didn't know if they're still
[39:17] doing high schoolers.
[39:19] >> Yeah,
[39:20] I I think that's what they're using now
[39:23] for their harvest because their harvest
[39:26] starts May.
[39:27] >> Yeah, the kids are still
[39:29] >> Yeah, they were the weekend for
[39:30] >> and like Hadley, they don't give the day
[39:32] off for the kids anymore
[39:35] or something to go pick asparagus.
[39:38] Well, John Lasel hires a lot of young
[39:41] kids for like summer Dalia season. I
[39:45] mean, he, you know, maybe throughout the
[39:48] season, too, but
[39:53] » I know his phone number off the top of
[39:54] my head.
[39:55] >> I think it was him
[39:58] >> back from the days when we all remember
[40:00] phone numbers.
[40:01] >> Yep. Yeah.
[40:03] Um, right. That is right. So he would,
[40:06] you know, I don't know if he's looking
[40:08] for more people for next year, but it'd
[40:10] be in the list. So
[40:13] >> be a good resource for for career days
[40:17] just to have a list of farms where you
[40:19] could even if it's
[40:20] >> might even come set up a table. Yeah.
[40:22] You never know.
[40:23] >> It's just part-time work for the summer
[40:25] after high school.
[40:26] >> Right. Right.
[40:27] >> You need to do something and learn to do
[40:30] something. Some of them don't even know
[40:31] how to push a broom. So
[40:35] It's crazy.
[40:37] >> Thank you. Thanks for drafting that up.
[40:39] Maybe you send that tag, email, get
[40:41] it'll see all the farmers and then just
[40:44] put your like contact info and help
[40:47] folks reach out for us to Great.
[40:53] » That was
[40:55] those are the things.
[40:56] >> Okay.
[40:57] >> We also applied we applied for another
[40:59] grant um that would keep us working for
[41:02] another two years. Okay,
[41:03] >> we will see.
[41:08] » What's the source of the
[41:10] >> USDA?
[41:11] >> Okay,
[41:12] >> but it's a specific farm to school
[41:14] brand. It's, you know,
[41:17] >> think we're in a good position for it,
[41:19] but you know,
[41:21] >> never know. Yeah.
[41:23] >> Great.
[41:24] >> All right. Well, thanks for coming in.
[41:27] >> Thank you.
[41:28] >> You still have more. We do business.
[41:31] >> Yep. We got a few more things.
[41:33] >> Okay.
[41:34] >> You're welcome to stick around.
[41:38] >> Okay.
[41:40] >> Nothing terribly exciting. You're not
[41:42] really
[41:43] >> catching later.
[41:45] >> Okay. There you go. I repeat those
[41:48] things.
[41:57] » Thank you.
[42:00] Um,
[42:01] >> what's your last name?
[42:03] >> We'll find out.
[42:05] Should we jump for the admin or do you
[42:07] want to do farm stand?
[42:09] >> Um, let's do admin. Um, yes. So, Tori is leaving and a woman named Katherine
[42:16] has been hired and I think is probably
[42:19] being hired in the room next door
[42:21] officially right now and can start
[42:24] working at the time of the next meeting.
[42:27] I I did I have not met Katherine. I was
[42:30] unable to attend the interview. So um uh
[42:35] so and so I wanted to talk about any
[42:38] transition needs. Inventory's been kind
[42:41] enough to keep coming month after month. The municipal hiring
[42:47] process has been fast.
[42:50] So, um, and one thing that Tori did was
[42:54] this folding pamphlet with all the farms
[42:58] that wanted to be listed on town that
[43:00] was distributed, you know, at Gongkins
[43:02] in the library holding all those.
[43:04] >> Yeah.
[43:04] >> You know, well, a lot of them as well
[43:11] at time, but um, so, you know, that's
[43:14] one thing. I don't know
[43:18] if Catherine is someone who's going to
[43:21] want to jump right into kind of managing
[43:24] that because it's it's I think how I
[43:27] mean we kind of need to keep the
[43:29] information a little bit updated I
[43:31] guess. So it would be smart.
[43:33] >> I was going to double whammy it when I
[43:35] blast everybody about to say, "Hey, also
[43:37] if your information was changed, let us
[43:39] know. We're putting together the farm
[43:41] pamphlet and then
[43:42] >> and maybe even attach the damp."
[43:44] >> Yeah. and be like, "If you want any
[43:45] changes,
[43:47] >> I want to include new work."
[43:48] >> Okay. All right. So, right there, that's the first key step
[43:53] >> and um we'll just tune Catherine into
[43:55] that process. I was just thinking maybe
[43:58] a couple of us could kind of with
[44:00] Catherine at some point kind of review
[44:02] all the farms in town. We could just do
[44:04] it at a meeting,
[44:05] >> I guess. And um
[44:07] >> we can do a side meeting too with her so
[44:09] she's familiar.
[44:10] >> Okay. Okay. All right. So maybe it just
[44:14] seems like we'll keep talking about that
[44:16] and what needs to happen. But
[44:19] >> yeah, does anyone here know how to use
[44:20] Canva?
[44:22] >> Design software completely free. All you
[44:25] have to do is typically tap type right
[44:28] in. It's already a template
[44:29] >> and trainable.
[44:31] >> Okay. Because I guess that would be the
[44:32] only thing. But if she's in college, she
[44:34] knows how to use it. So
[44:36] >> Okay. All right. Well, I guess we'll
[44:38] meet Catherine. You'll meet Catherine.
[44:40] >> Yeah. I don't know, but you're excited
[44:43] to be
[44:44] >> Is she local or
[44:45] >> I don't even know. I I I'm
[44:47] >> I mean it was
[44:48] >> we know nothing about this. I meant like
[44:50] >> absolutely nothing. But my understanding
[44:53] is that they were ex very experienced
[44:56] and may even have been an admin admin
[44:59] assistant at for some other municipality
[45:03] or in some way. But uh yeah, no, I had a
[45:08] truckload of produce and a driver tap
[45:11] out at 3:18 in the morning, I think it
[45:13] was.
[45:16] >> I spent the day in Connecticut and
[45:18] that's us. But um so yeah, this will be new. I traded emails. We
[45:24] seem, you know, ready to go. So
[45:29] um so we will meet uh Katherine next
[45:31] week, next month rather. Um, and I guess
[45:34] that sort of, you know, covers the
[45:36] pamphlet enough. We'll just uh manage
[45:39] that as it goes. Um, so we are going to
[45:43] change our meeting date. I think we all
[45:46] talked about that, but Mondays was kind
[45:48] of the consensus.
[45:54] » Monday, that would be February.
[45:58] Uh, first is a Sunday. That means the
[46:02] 8th is a Sunday. 9th 10th. Is that
[46:05] right? February the 10th.
[46:06] >> 9th.
[46:07] February 9th.
[46:09] >> Right.
[46:09] >> Oh, yeah. Monday.
[46:10] >> Monday.
[46:11] Right. Okay.
[46:12] >> February.
[46:15] >> Same time.
[46:16] >> Yeah.
[46:17] Um,
[46:20] can you pull up the Weightley pound
[46:23] meeting calendar and just see if like
[46:28] the second Monday of the month has got
[46:30] like if the building is already packed
[46:33] out. That's the my only concern is that
[46:35] we'll just be like that's the Tuesday.
[46:39] >> Yeah. Oh, no. The the Monday rather.
[46:43] Um,
[46:44] >> I can only see right now once we stop
[46:46] the meeting, I can check the other town.
[46:49] I can see the town of Wley doesn't have
[46:51] because there's two accounts. I can't
[46:53] see one of them.
[46:54] >> Okay.
[46:55] >> Cuz I don't want to lose this meeting.
[46:57] >> My only concern is that the building
[46:59] will be full and we'll have to uh pick another another
[47:06] Monday, you know, the first or third or
[47:09] something like that. But let let's um
[47:12] Let me let me work on that. Let me just
[47:14] confirm the second
[47:16] um second Monday in February
[47:21] are there will be meeting space
[47:24] available for us. But other than that,
[47:26] so let's just plan ahead.
[47:28] >> Sounds good.
[47:30] And then the last thing we were going to
[47:32] talk about here, I I want to, you know,
[47:34] this this group occasionally gets asked
[47:37] for an opinion about
[47:42] rules as they apply to farms in town,
[47:45] how farms inter interface with the rest
[47:47] of the town government and the town. And
[47:51] so I thought it would be kind of smart
[47:52] to sort of look at things like what what
[47:56] let's let's you know we all kind of
[47:58] think we know what the right to farm
[48:00] bylaw is but let's really look at it.
[48:02] Let's read it, you know, and I think
[48:04] that's going to happen, you know, with
[48:06] as we kind of explore the the sign that
[48:09] we're going to have made that Dave's
[48:10] made. Um, and there are, you know,
[48:14] zoning rules for retail farms that kind
[48:18] of interrupt the normal zoning rules in
[48:22] town. And I think everybody knows a
[48:25] little bit about it and Mike is on the
[48:27] plan the uh planning board and so has a
[48:30] front row seat for for any conversations
[48:33] about that kind of thing. So, what do
[48:35] you what do you know about it? Um, so
[48:37] there's been no formal complaining, but
[48:41] there's been rumblings
[48:44] >> um of the former 5J Creamy, which is now
[48:48] Simmers, that basically since they've
[48:51] opened, every year they have continued
[48:54] to scale down to where now they have no
[48:57] produce. It's just food. Um
[49:01] it's a it's not a gray area, but it's um
[49:06] can be a little confusing
[49:09] because they are technically a farm
[49:11] stand, which gives you a lot of leeway.
[49:16] Um,
[49:18] but you can't, you know, sell furniture,
[49:20] you know,
[49:21] >> and you're supposed to be selling your
[49:23] products, but no one, the rules have
[49:25] never stated
[49:27] >> that you you can only sell what you grow
[49:30] cuz that's not reasonable.
[49:31] >> Um, you know, like if a farmer grows
[49:34] whatever sweet corn and tomatoes, he's
[49:36] gonna buy peppers from his neighbor,
[49:38] etc., etc. Yeah. Um, so I think
[49:43] apparently they have been u Brand was
[49:46] going to send me a letter that was sent
[49:48] to Dimmerskis about this a year or so
[49:52] before I was on the planning work. So a
[49:54] year or so ago um
[49:56] >> and it was sent by the way planning
[49:58] >> I believe so. Yeah. I didn't get the
[50:00] email so I'm not totally positive. Um
[50:04] but again there's been no formal
[50:06] complaint.
[50:08] the planning board does have some
[50:11] obligation to look out for these things
[50:13] in town. Um,
[50:16] >> yeah,
[50:17] >> my quick opinion on it is that if they
[50:21] showed any sign of just making an
[50:24] attempt, it would probably just go away.
[50:26] >> Um, I don't think anyone wants to see
[50:28] them get forced out or anything like
[50:30] that. It's more of, you know, like when
[50:32] Jam first started there were pumpkins
[50:35] and mums and, you know,
[50:36] >> pick your own strawberries,
[50:38] >> right? So, even if 90% of what they were
[50:41] doing was selling hamburgers and hot
[50:43] dogs, they put on a good show. And I
[50:45] think that's
[50:46] >> Yeah. I mean, they turned a lot of edge
[50:48] through there, too.
[50:49] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[50:50] >> So,
[50:52] um, that's kind of where it stands now.
[50:55] Um,
[50:57] I think the planning board is kind of
[50:59] looking for the egg um
[51:02] to advise, which is what we're kind of
[51:04] here for, right?
[51:05] >> Yeah.
[51:05] >> To not just advise the selectman, but to
[51:08] advise any other board in town.
[51:10] >> Yeah. Right. Right. Um,
[51:14] do you know if the weight bylaws that
[51:17] allow so basically farm stands if you're
[51:20] selling your own stuff, farm stands can
[51:22] kind of work out of a residential area.
[51:25] >> Correct.
[51:26] >> That's sort of
[51:27] >> a res I think it's zoned a residential,
[51:29] right?
[51:30] >> Yeah. A redstone. So,
[51:33] um, and then it the lines get a little
[51:36] cloudy around how much of the stuff is
[51:39] your home, too, right?
[51:41] >> Yeah. I think it's supposed to be the
[51:43] primary
[51:45] some type of wording
[51:47] >> 50%.
[51:48] >> Yeah.
[51:48] >> My my understanding was that it was like
[51:51] it had to be half.
[51:52] >> I don't know if And then it was like,
[51:54] well, half in dollars, half in volume. I
[51:57] think you kind of have to just
[51:58] >> I don't think it's I don't think it's
[52:00] anything anyone is really trying to like
[52:03] No one's going to go in there and
[52:06] nail that number right now, you know?
[52:08] So, I think it's
[52:10] >> Yeah.
[52:11] >> It was a it's it's a loose
[52:15] loosely enforced term, you know. I don't
[52:18] really know how else to describe it.
[52:19] >> Yeah. Right. Right. It's um
[52:23] self uh self enforcing or something. So,
[52:27] >> right. So, just regulating.
[52:29] >> Yeah. Self-regulating self, you know,
[52:31] just it's not in the honor system, but
[52:34] it's it's just
[52:37] >> Yeah. I think if you're selling
[52:39] vegetables and you're a farm, I mean,
[52:40] you're or you're selling milk and you
[52:42] milk cows, I mean, if you put two and
[52:44] two together, it's pretty simple.
[52:46] >> Yeah. I mean, you know what I was kind
[52:48] of thinking about it is like I think
[52:50] maybe when some of these rules were
[52:52] created these these exceptions to let
[52:55] you know things were kind of a little
[52:57] bit different. It's not like this
[53:00] >> family grows plenty of
[53:03] >> vegetables. It's just not there
[53:06] >> and it's not stuff that would lend
[53:07] itself to be sold
[53:09] >> to retail farms. Correct. You know%
[53:12] >> um so it is a farm family. They're
[53:14] selling mostly ice cream which is a farm
[53:18] product, right? I mean,
[53:19] >> you know, they don't have milk built the
[53:21] cows themselves. But
[53:23] >> yeah,
[53:23] >> you know, I mean, it it's not like,
[53:28] you know, someone who wasn't farming
[53:30] opened an ice cream place, right,
[53:32] >> and
[53:34] was going to have sell vegetables that
[53:36] they bought from area farms and then
[53:37] kind of never did that part and really
[53:39] only just had the ice cream place. This
[53:41] is a family that grows 800 acres of of
[53:45] Yeah. Yeah.
[53:46] >> And um
[53:47] >> but it's basically the problem with it
[53:50] is that they're basically running a
[53:51] restaurant saying it's a farm stand.
[53:53] >> That's the problem.
[53:55] >> And and then Well, that's actually not
[53:57] the problem. The problem is that they're
[53:58] in a they're doing this in a place
[54:00] that's owned properly for that. If it
[54:03] was commercial, no problem.
[54:05] >> Well, they have a sign out there
[54:07] advertising Barnes,
[54:09] >> right?
[54:10] if I should bring in back
[54:13] >> and I think some of the other issues and
[54:16] I don't have this is again just an
[54:19] opinion. It seems to me that when 5J
[54:24] Creamy opened there
[54:27] no one really seems to know whether that
[54:29] was even done legally or you know what I
[54:31] mean? I think it was kind of just done
[54:34] and forgiveness was asked after. So is
[54:36] there something grandfathered in? is
[54:38] there and there's no none of that is
[54:41] spelled right out
[54:42] >> in plain English for us to know you know
[54:45] and then simmers buying something it's
[54:48] not like they started it so that adds to
[54:51] the confusion
[54:53] >> um and I think what the planning board
[54:55] is kind of asking from us is should the
[54:59] regulation be changed should it you know
[55:02] >> well that yeah right that's kind of a
[55:07] funny one would be, you know,
[55:10] >> what is what is at stake like them
[55:12] paying more for the taxes of the land
[55:15] that it's on?
[55:16] >> No, they would. So, I mean, if they're basically in violation, they
[55:19] would be shut they would be ordered to
[55:21] shut down
[55:21] >> shut down because it is specific zone is
[55:25] not for
[55:26] >> because they're not selling any good.
[55:29] >> Or could they be uh could the land be
[55:33] >> commercial for them? Because I think a
[55:34] lot of people would miss that place in
[55:37] town.
[55:38] >> 100%. Yeah. I That's why I think like if
[55:41] they just make an attempt, it's just the
[55:44] problem's just going to wash out.
[55:45] >> Yeah. Going to go away. But, you know,
[55:47] they have a spot right next to where the
[55:49] ice cream window is that was set up. You
[55:52] know, when it first became simmers,
[55:55] young Teddy was selling vegetables
[55:57] there. There was stuff in there,
[55:59] >> right?
[55:59] >> And so, I think that just
[56:01] >> does someone talk to them about this?
[56:03] Yes, they've been
[56:05] Yeah. and said that, you know, it was
[56:06] going to get remedied and
[56:08] >> so,
[56:09] >> but you also can't just snap your, you
[56:11] know, Sure.
[56:12] >> You know, maybe this spring all of a
[56:14] sudden there's going to be a whole bunch
[56:15] of stuff there that just needed to get
[56:17] organized. I have no idea.
[56:19] >> Um, but
[56:20] >> cuz Teddy has over his stand and
[56:22] suddenly he's got the the flowers and
[56:24] >> Yep.
[56:25] >> and all that.
[56:26] >> Yep. Exactly.
[56:27] >> Right.
[56:29] >> They want to do it. It could be done.
[56:31] >> Yeah. would and even if it's just a
[56:33] quarter of what he's doing over there,
[56:35] you could
[56:37] >> like his farm stand over there is a
[56:39] perfect example of what is supposed to
[56:42] be going on.
[56:43] >> You know, he sells ice cream and he
[56:45] sells Polish food, but he sells flowers
[56:47] and all kinds of vegetables there.
[56:50] >> Yeah. Exactly. Yep.
[56:52] >> Right. Right. Right.
[56:52] >> Yeah.
[56:53] Yeah. I mean, I think when they
[56:54] kind of made the exception, the the
[56:57] image was all these small farm families
[57:01] would sell
[57:03] whatever they grew on the side of the
[57:05] road. You know, it was like there used
[57:06] to be signs of, you know, Lennox had
[57:08] beets, you know, myis had potatoes, you
[57:10] know,
[57:12] >> like uh, you know, John John or uh Yeah.
[57:15] John Bashesky's doing. He put up
[57:17] >> the roadside. Yeah.
[57:18] >> You know,
[57:19] >> the Home Depot shed and fill the corner.
[57:21] >> Exactly. He's called it.
[57:22] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
[57:24] >> that's exactly right. And that that's
[57:26] was the intention of the I think the
[57:28] that was the vision when
[57:30] >> right
[57:31] >> of how what it would look like, you
[57:33] know, but agriculture has changed. There
[57:35] aren't as many farms, people specialize
[57:38] and
[57:39] >> y
[57:40] >> um I've also seen an increase in
[57:42] non-farmers
[57:44] opening farm stands and buying in
[57:47] everything. Okay. You provide stuff to a
[57:50] lot of different farm stands that are
[57:52] non-farmers that are just buying
[57:53] everything in just to resell. I just not
[57:56] in weight, but I'm curious how their
[57:59] zoning deals with that. You know,
[58:02] technically they're a farm stand, but
[58:04] they don't grow any of it themselves.
[58:07] So, they're more like a gross grosser or
[58:12] you know, I don't know. I don't know how
[58:14] they retail store.
[58:15] >> Yeah.
[58:17] I know that's for a different
[58:19] conversation, but it's interesting.
[58:21] >> Yeah. Right.
[58:22] >> We need it.
[58:25] >> I think for the moment send them kind of
[58:28] a reminder that yet the new year is
[58:31] coming and what what are what are your
[58:34] plans or or being or concerned about
[58:37] this
[58:39] >> or I'm think notified in writing. I
[58:42] think it's a good idea.
[58:43] >> I think the planning board has
[58:44] communicated though.
[58:46] >> Yeah. I I believe let me just look at
[58:48] Mike.
[58:49] >> I think all I wanted Mike to discuss
[58:52] this only so that we were aware of the
[58:57] issue
[58:58] >> I guess and to kind of get our minds
[59:00] around what the rules are.
[59:04] Um
[59:05] I think what has happened is that the
[59:08] nature of farms and agriculture has
[59:11] changed since some of these exceptions
[59:14] were made. And I think they're, you
[59:16] know, this is a farming family.
[59:20] Yeah. They should they should put on a
[59:22] retail show there. Um
[59:25] and uh make sure they take a lot of
[59:27] pictures.
[59:28] Yeah. So they were uh they were
[59:33] given a letter in the 4th of January
[59:36] 2024 from the plan from the Wavely
[59:39] Planning Board basically saying kind of
[59:42] reviewing the rules. I do have it here.
[59:45] And it's 20. They have to grow 25% of
[59:47] what they sell and then 50% of the
[59:49] remaining has to come from Massachusetts
[59:51] farms. Again, I think it's a pretty
[59:53] loose like no one's going to check any
[59:56] of this. It's more of
[59:58] >> Yeah.
[59:59] >> You know,
[59:59] >> it's more of the display really.
[1:00:01] >> Yeah.
[1:00:01] I mean, yeah. You're making an
[1:00:03] attempt to Yeah. You could argue like
[1:00:06] you said, Doug, like it's ice cream, you
[1:00:08] know, it's hamburgers, I grow beef, it's
[1:00:10] hot dog, you know, everything comes from
[1:00:12] somewhere. But again, that was not like
[1:00:14] the vision.
[1:00:15] >> Yeah.
[1:00:15] >> Of the
[1:00:16] >> some of it too is the watering down of
[1:00:19] like what is a farm stand, you know? Is
[1:00:21] a farm stand just hamburgers and hot
[1:00:24] dogs or is it produce that's grown in
[1:00:27] the local area? You know, I mean
[1:00:30] >> I mean in a way that road
[1:00:33] I mean does weight need another retail
[1:00:36] farm? Sure. Yeah. There's lots.
[1:00:39] >> Yeah. It's just it's kind of like
[1:00:41] >> the other ones around are probably glad
[1:00:42] that they're you know people come for
[1:00:45] the ocean come somewhere else for the
[1:00:47] sweet corn on the way home you know um
[1:00:51] >> you know that's that's the other part of
[1:00:52] it it's not you know it's not Lunenburg
[1:00:56] or you know it's not Malboro where
[1:00:59] there's 40,000 people
[1:01:00] >> right yeah
[1:01:02] >> right
[1:01:03] >> so it would be a shame to lose that if
[1:01:05] it was just a zoning issue
[1:01:08] I think a lot of people to utilize that
[1:01:11] ice cream stand.
[1:01:13] >> Yeah. And I think that the idea is to to
[1:01:15] not have that happen like
[1:01:17] >> right nobody wants
[1:01:18] >> right everybody wants it to exist. It
[1:01:21] has to just exist within the framework
[1:01:23] and the rules that are out there. And
[1:01:27] >> um so we have a planning board meeting
[1:01:29] at the end of this month. We haven't
[1:01:31] discussed this a lot because we've been
[1:01:33] dealing with the best and everything um
[1:01:37] the battery storage stuff. So we are
[1:01:39] going to discuss it. That's the plan.
[1:01:41] >> Mhm.
[1:01:41] >> Um and then Brandt may want to present
[1:01:45] something to the adcom on our next
[1:01:47] meeting next month.
[1:01:49] >> Um with kind of, you know, what does
[1:01:52] what do what does the planning board
[1:01:54] actually want from a comp?
[1:01:57] >> Yeah.
[1:01:57] >> You know,
[1:01:58] >> are they ready for us to actually answer
[1:02:01] particular questions?
[1:02:02] >> Right. So, I brought it up tonight so
[1:02:04] that everybody can kind of just ponder
[1:02:06] on it and
[1:02:08] >> um and this is a good example of what
[1:02:11] the acom does in town. You know, we may
[1:02:15] be able to steer, you know, u the the
[1:02:20] planning board to accommodate farm
[1:02:23] stands with different language,
[1:02:26] >> you know, and participating in that is why it's good to have an agar.
[1:02:31] >> Great. So
[1:02:32] >> yeah. So hopefully next meeting we will
[1:02:34] have like I'll be able to come in with
[1:02:37] something printed out of the exact part
[1:02:39] of the bylaw that we need to be
[1:02:41] concerned with because as you can
[1:02:43] imagine it's written in
[1:02:45] >> practical gibberish.
[1:02:49] » Yeah. We need to like pull out what what
[1:02:51] actually matters to what we're talking
[1:02:53] about. That's
[1:02:54] >> Yeah.
[1:02:55] >> Then I'm not I haven't been doing this
[1:02:56] long enough to
[1:02:59] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very curious as to
[1:03:02] when whenever the whatever the language
[1:03:04] is, whenever it was adopted,
[1:03:06] >> you know, how how far back are we
[1:03:08] talking?
[1:03:09] >> Yeah.
[1:03:10] um
[1:03:12] >> who's the enforcer of say they didn't
[1:03:15] make any changes and they just kind of
[1:03:17] kept on doing what they're doing and
[1:03:19] >> so if their full complaint
[1:03:21] >> if a um like anyone could make a formal
[1:03:25] complaint
[1:03:26] >> anyone in town
[1:03:26] >> the the building inspector would then
[1:03:30] >> go and shut them down basically I see
[1:03:33] >> make it official
[1:03:34] >> y
[1:03:35] >> okay
[1:03:38] have to get permits
[1:03:39] Right. From the town and kind of why
[1:03:43] would anybody make a complaint?
[1:03:46] >> Yeah, that's there hasn't been a Well,
[1:03:48] like
[1:03:48] >> you said there's some rumbling or
[1:03:50] something.
[1:03:50] >> Yeah, there's apparently there was some
[1:03:52] I think there was a select board member
[1:03:54] or something along those lines. Someone
[1:03:56] a town official
[1:03:57] >> doesn't eat ice cream drove by and doing
[1:04:01] business.
[1:04:01] >> Yeah. Well, I just think it was more
[1:04:03] like, you know, hey, I don't see
[1:04:04] anything there anymore. Like what's
[1:04:06] going on? Well, I mean,
[1:04:08] >> and there is some like, you know, like
[1:04:09] the planning board, like you have a
[1:04:11] moral obligation to
[1:04:14] enforce the laws that you came up with.
[1:04:18] >> I think that's the way it should be.
[1:04:20] >> Right. Right.
[1:04:21] >> Right. Not ignore the elephant in the
[1:04:23] room.
[1:04:24] >> Exactly. And it's that's I think it was
[1:04:27] again like I've only been on the plane
[1:04:29] board since the summer. So, but I
[1:04:31] believe it's been tried they tried to
[1:04:33] deal with this already a couple times
[1:04:37] behind the behind closed doors or under
[1:04:39] the radar whatever and it hasn't seemed
[1:04:42] to get anywhere yet. So,
[1:04:43] >> right this in general or that specific
[1:04:45] >> this this problem.
[1:04:47] >> Yeah,
[1:04:52] » right. Yeah. Tough one.
[1:04:54] >> Yeah.
[1:04:57] >> Well, it is what it is, you know. It is.
[1:05:00] Yeah. And so
[1:05:04] they
[1:05:06] take steps to remedy it or not, right?
[1:05:09] It's that simple.
[1:05:10] >> Yeah.
[1:05:11] >> Mike, do you know if they responded to
[1:05:13] that letter at all? I don't believe they
[1:05:15] did.
[1:05:16] >> No. Well, that's
[1:05:17] >> No, I
[1:05:19] sort of thing.
[1:05:20] >> Yeah.
[1:05:21] None of them live in way.
[1:05:27] Yeah.
[1:05:31] All right. Well, I guess we should Yeah,
[1:05:34] we'll just continue the discussion next
[1:05:36] month and
[1:05:38] take it from there. Um, all right. Well,
[1:05:40] I guess unless we had anything else.
[1:05:43] >> Uh, the ethics.
[1:05:45] >> Yes.
[1:05:47] >> Was it ethics, right?
[1:05:48] >> I think it was ethics.
[1:05:50] >> Yes. So, did you all get an email?
[1:05:52] >> Yes.
[1:05:53] >> Okay. I thought I got an email because
[1:05:55] of the garden committee.
[1:05:58] >> You may have.
[1:05:59] >> Yeah.
[1:06:00] >> But my understanding is that I'm still
[1:06:02] covered under the one that I did last
[1:06:05] year.
[1:06:06] >> One of them take you have to update it
[1:06:09] every every year. It'll take you 10
[1:06:11] minutes.
[1:06:12] >> Okay. The one I keep getting email says
[1:06:14] it'll take an hour, which is fine.
[1:06:16] >> Well, that's the one you have to do
[1:06:17] every two years.
[1:06:18] >> Yeah. But is that for but does that
[1:06:20] cover me for every committee or is that
[1:06:22] I do one for each?
[1:06:24] >> It looked like the same thing.
[1:06:27] >> I think once you create your account
[1:06:31] >> if you
[1:06:33] are get on another committee and you're
[1:06:36] appointed it would it should
[1:06:37] automatically just exempt you think if
[1:06:40] you're
[1:06:40] >> updated. Mine wasn't doing
[1:06:42] >> try to get into my account and look at
[1:06:44] it.
[1:06:44] >> Yeah, I had to reset my password. Yeah,
[1:06:47] that's what I want to hear.
[1:06:50] >> I want to say I
[1:06:52] >> Oh, yeah. So, um, if you need help
[1:06:54] complying with that ethics stuff, I'm
[1:06:56] sure you'll come in.
[1:06:57] >> This is the conflict of interest.
[1:06:59] >> Yeah. Yes.
[1:07:00] >> Okay. So, I do I did get an email saying
[1:07:03] you need it. So, it must be the
[1:07:05] 10-minute one. I don't think I ever did
[1:07:06] a 10-minute one, to be honest. So,
[1:07:08] >> Well, because you can do it in like 10
[1:07:10] seconds if you
[1:07:11] >> Oh, okay.
[1:07:13] >> Yeah. Yeah, I'll try to
[1:07:15] >> I'll take you 10 minutes to read it.
[1:07:18] It'll take you 10 seconds to do it.
[1:07:21] It's all pretty straightforward.
[1:07:23] >> Yeah, I mean it's not a it might be
[1:07:26] worth 10 minutes of your time. Not a bad
[1:07:28] thing to review, but um All right. Well,
[1:07:32] I guess I'll move to ajourn. Move to
[1:07:34] adjourn. All right. At 8 or whatever it
[1:07:38] is
[1:07:38] >> 71. Perfect. Right.
[1:07:43] All right.