[0:00] All
[0:05] » right, we call the meeting to order.
[0:07] Would you please join me in the pledge
[0:09] of allegiance?
[0:12] >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the
[0:15] United States of America and to the
[0:17] republic for which it stands, one nation
[0:20] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:24] justice for all. Amen.
[0:31] Hi. Would you please take the role?
[0:33] >> Mayor Greavves
[0:34] >> here.
[0:35] >> Councilman Coffman.
[0:38] >> Councilman Perkins.
[0:40] >> Councilman Dix
[0:41] >> here.
[0:42] Councilman Evans
[0:43] >> here.
[0:47] » All right. you have before you an
[0:48] agenda. Um, under new business, we're
[0:52] going to strike item number four because
[0:54] of the number of voting body members. We
[0:58] can't act on that tonight with two two
[1:01] people gone because you will have to not
[1:03] take part. So,
[1:06] um, we'll just strike that, move it to
[1:08] next month
[1:10] or if we have a need for a special
[1:12] meeting, we'll address it then. But I
[1:13] mean
[1:15] to just strike that and so everything
[1:17] below it would just then scoot up and
[1:19] become the proper numeric order. Other
[1:22] than that are there any changes?
[1:27] » Hearing none I would entertain a motion
[1:28] to approve the agenda as amended. Moved
[1:31] >> second moved and seconded. All in favor
[1:34] signify by saying I.
[1:35] >> I post same sign. Motion will carry.
[1:40] For the purpose of discussion, I would
[1:42] entertain a motion to approve and place
[1:44] to record the consent agenda items.
[1:46] >> So moved.
[1:47] >> Second.
[1:48] >> It's been moved and seconded. Is there
[1:49] discussion on any consent agenda items?
[2:01] » Was pretty straightforward this month. I
[2:04] >> agreed.
[2:06] >> All right. All in favor signify by
[2:08] saying I. I
[2:09] >> oppose. Same sign. Motion will carry.
[2:14] Moving on to petitions, memorials,
[2:16] proclamations, and public comment. Item
[2:18] number one is the Wyoming community gas
[2:20] check.
[2:22] We have a couple of ladies in the office
[2:25] that have worked very diligently with
[2:26] this. And now we get to reap the
[2:29] benefits of their hard work.
[2:35] We appreciate the effort that they put
[2:37] into it.
[2:39] Let me get around since there's three of
[2:41] you.
[2:42] >> Feel free.
[2:45] to stand right there.
[2:50] » Thank you guys for your work, your
[2:51] effort. I mean, this this doesn't go
[2:54] unnoticed and we use it for great things
[2:56] for the public and the youth. And thank
[2:58] you very much. And for those of you that
[3:00] don't know, the Wyoming Community Gas,
[3:02] they do the work and get the member sign
[3:04] up and Wyoming Community Gas will give
[3:06] us kickback and And this year it's
[3:08] $10,258.33.
[3:14] » Historically, we've used this money for
[3:16] things like completion of the miniature
[3:18] golf course. Um the dog park at Daringer
[3:21] Park.
[3:22] >> Um
[3:22] >> soccer nets.
[3:23] for Lewis Park.
[3:26] >> Um
[3:27] >> yeah, the pickle ball court, concrete,
[3:29] lighting, and I mean park improvements,
[3:31] benches.
[3:33] I mean, it's it's you don't want to say
[3:35] it's free money because there's a lot of
[3:36] effort that goes into getting it, but it does a lot for us and and their
[3:41] efforts need to be commended for for
[3:43] chasing that and getting that for us
[3:45] because they broke the $10,000 plane two
[3:47] or three years ago and they've held it
[3:48] there. And this has varied from a few
[3:51] thousand to this is about as good as
[3:53] it's been. I mean, this is right at the
[3:55] top mark. So, thank you for your
[3:57] diligence and your hard work.
[4:00] What did we earmark this one for this
[4:02] year?
[4:02] >> Or have we yet?
[4:03] >> Park.
[4:05] >> Playground equipment upgrades
[4:07] >> and uh walkway.
[4:08] >> Oh, yeah. The walkway convert.
[4:13] >> Convert some of that old asphalt walkway
[4:15] to concrete.
[4:17] As as much as $10,000.
[4:31] With no other agenda items, are there
[4:33] any public comments at this time?
[4:40] Seeing none, we'll move on to unfinished
[4:43] business. And there is none. So, we'll
[4:45] just shoot straight to new business.
[4:47] Item number one is an IT contract. And
[4:50] uh we have we have two bids
[4:55] and
[4:57] I don't know I'm not 100% certain that
[5:00] maybe we did the best job or due
[5:02] diligence in presenting the information
[5:05] to obtain the bids because I have some thoughts that those bids are like
[5:11] almost in two separate ball fields. It's hard to compare and contrast
[5:16] because I maybe it's just two different
[5:18] angles or two different thoughts, but
[5:20] give me some opinions here, guys.
[5:22] >> Mr. Mayor, I I uh going through all the
[5:24] contracts and and looking detail by detail. I have four pages of
[5:30] questions and I would suggest tonight
[5:32] that we table this until we can get some
[5:34] things answered. Um, again, this is
[5:37] looking at to me, this is looking at two
[5:39] totally different play uh playing
[5:41] levels. And without those questions
[5:44] answered, I'm not I personally am not
[5:46] okay with voting the public's money on
[5:48] an IT contract when we truly don't know
[5:51] what we're getting in a couple of ways.
[5:53] So I I would
[5:59] » and having done the same thing and
[6:00] looking things over and talking to
[6:02] different entities and I think we need
[6:05] some more in depth.
[6:08] >> I think I think we have some work to do
[6:10] on our end and then pitch it back out to
[6:12] the the guys to give them a fair shake
[6:14] because at this point I I think we've
[6:15] done nothing but maybe muddy the waters
[6:17] is my concern.
[6:18] >> I I would agree.
[6:19] >> So I second on Jason's motion.
[6:21] >> Okay. It's been moved and seconded. Is
[6:23] there any further discussion
[6:26] hearing? None. All in favor signify by
[6:28] saying I.
[6:29] >> I.
[6:30] >> Motion will carry to table it
[6:33] with more to come.
[6:38] Item number two is uh the condry and
[6:41] associates agreement.
[7:13] This 110 page document that Tabla sent
[7:16] me makes it real easy to find. You're
[7:19] welcome, guys.
[7:22] » Mine was only six pages.
[7:28] » You still get the paper.
[7:29] >> I get a paper.
[7:31] >> Us old guys do that that way.
[7:32] >> Oh, is that what it is?
[7:37] » Tabitha, what can you tell us about
[7:38] this?
[7:40] Or you mean just so it's just a contract
[7:43] to update the um the wage survey that we
[7:47] did a couple years ago so that we get PD
[7:49] where they they are needed. That's
[7:51] right.
[7:52] >> Remember they were going to sergeants
[7:54] and corporals and stuff like that. So we
[7:57] just thought instead of trying to do it
[7:58] ourselves go back out to where we did
[8:01] they said that they would it it's not
[8:03] going to cost as much like last year.
[8:05] The last time we did it was $40,000.
[8:09] This is just an update.
[8:11] >> Or something.
[8:15] » 45.
[8:16] >> And this is it's like an update to get
[8:18] us keep us current with current pay
[8:20] scales and wage tables and all that
[8:22] rather than a complete build.
[8:24] >> I would move that we uh sign this
[8:27] agreement and go forth with the uh wage
[8:29] stud.
[8:32] >> Could I before you do anything? The only
[8:35] problem I had and Tabitha told me that
[8:37] they do almost everything by Zoom
[8:40] internet is if they if you ask them to
[8:43] come out they're going to charge it to
[8:45] come out
[8:47] >> and I don't know where they travel to or
[8:49] from or anything. Just so you're aware
[8:51] >> they're from Virginia. So
[8:52] >> So just so you're aware you ask them to
[8:54] come out they're gonna
[8:58] >> I think the last time you did it on
[9:00] >> I was going to say is there any real
[9:02] reason that we need them here? I'm just
[9:04] telling you that if they do then they
[9:06] have extra charges above the 145.
[9:09] >> Well, last time we did it all zoom and
[9:12] it was a way newer technology then it is
[9:14] now. I mean people readily use it all
[9:17] the time now.
[9:18] >> You want to I I can show you how to
[9:19] zoom. We can zoom.
[9:20] >> I zoom a lot. I tell you I am confident
[9:23] in that area.
[9:25] >> We can talk about your new pedestal. I
[9:26] want to come put in
[9:29] >> All right.
[9:29] >> I can do it ON MY PHONE.
[9:31] >> WHAT?
[9:31] >> YEAH.
[9:33] All right.
[9:35] >> All right. It's been moved and seconded
[9:36] to agree with and execute signature of
[9:40] the memorandum of agreement with with
[9:42] Condre and Associates for the wage
[9:44] study. All in favor signify by saying I.
[9:46] >> I.
[9:47] >> Oppose. Same sign. Motion will carry.
[9:50] >> The next one looks like this. And then
[9:53] the next one you have a uh engagement
[9:55] letter for our fiscal year 26 audit with
[9:58] the same organization that's been doing
[10:00] audits for us for last several years.
[10:06] Would entertain a motion to sign the
[10:09] engagement letter for the fiscal year 26
[10:11] audit.
[10:12] >> So moved.
[10:14] >> Okay. Second.
[10:15] It's
[10:16] >> been moved and seconded. Is there any
[10:17] further discussion?
[10:20] Uh hearing none. All in favor signify by
[10:23] saying I.
[10:24] >> I.
[10:25] >> Same sign. That motion will carry.
[10:28] And then uh we have a notice to proceed.
[10:31] It's for the airport seal coat and
[10:33] marking
[10:35] um project which is just kind of finish
[10:39] up with some loose ends and stuff out at
[10:40] the airport. So I would entertain a
[10:43] motion to authorize signature for the
[10:46] seal coat and mark project. So moved.
[10:50] >> Second. Is there any further discussion?
[10:53] Hearing none, all in favor signify by
[10:55] saying I.
[10:56] >> I.
[10:57] >> Motion carries. And then you have
[11:01] discussion piece in front of you. It's
[11:04] titled Star Max. It's for uh a cleaning
[11:08] service to come in and and do
[11:11] very deep clean of the entire movie
[11:14] theater. the all the screens in the
[11:18] auditoriums and the sound folds and the
[11:20] drapes and the chairs and the carpet and
[11:22] everything. Um Curtis, you want to speak
[11:24] to any of that? I mean, you're here. You
[11:26] have the opportunity.
[11:28] >> So,
[11:32] um yeah, Curtis Hopro, we run the the
[11:36] movie theater here in town. Um and we've
[11:39] been looking uh I I don't pretend to
[11:41] know all of the ins and outs of the
[11:43] screen. I am a whole lot better with the
[11:45] projector itself. Um, but when we when
[11:48] we took over running the movie theater,
[11:50] the first thing that CICO told us is
[11:53] don't touch the screen because if you
[11:55] touch it, the dust moves and then it
[11:58] looks weird and all of those things. So,
[12:00] we've been looking into some different
[12:03] companies that do that high level
[12:06] cleaning. Um, they can get clear up to
[12:08] the top of those those sound drapes on
[12:11] the sides of the walls.
[12:13] um on the north side uh where before we took over operation of the
[12:18] theater, the the roof had leaked. They
[12:20] replaced the roof. There's there's a
[12:23] little bit of water damage on some of
[12:24] those drapes. I I sent these guys
[12:27] pictures of all of that and they said
[12:29] that they could take care of it. We've
[12:31] gotten as high as we can standing on a
[12:34] ladder and as high as I comfortable
[12:38] going with our little portable carpet
[12:40] cleaner that we have.
[12:42] Um, this also includes um all of the
[12:46] every seat, the cleaning of the fabric
[12:48] that's on the seats. Um, and all of the
[12:52] plastic and then they put a protective
[12:55] coating on it to keep uh from getting
[12:58] additional scuff marks or additional
[13:02] stains on fabric.
[13:04] Um we did um
[13:08] and that you you have it in front of
[13:11] you, but we'd look we'd be be looking at
[13:12] the cost of $1,495.
[13:15] Um this is the the company out of
[13:19] Chesterfield, Missouri is the closest
[13:21] one that we could find. When we reached
[13:24] out and talked to other theaters, larger
[13:27] theaters, uh different things, they
[13:30] everybody pointed back to these guys.
[13:34] Who ever had this done before?
[13:36] >> Not that I'm aware of. If it's if it was
[13:38] done, it was well before
[13:40] >> prior to us.
[13:41] So, I know it hasn't been
[13:43] done in the last four years. This
[13:45] company recommends that you do it about
[13:47] every three to four. So, it's it's
[13:50] probably high time. We may find some new
[13:53] colors in those murals
[13:55] once once they get to get everything off
[13:58] of them. But, uh I just this is
[14:01] something that I think uh important to,
[14:04] you know, protect those seats are not
[14:06] the most comfortable things on the
[14:07] planet, but barring having the money to
[14:11] completely replace them, protecting what
[14:13] we do have there, uh, is important.
[14:20] » Well, how long you keep it closed for
[14:22] when they come in?
[14:24] >> What's that? Oh, we are uh we've talked
[14:26] to them. We're trying to schedule this
[14:28] on the days that we're closed on Monday.
[14:30] It should take them about two two and a
[14:32] half days. So if they start on a Monday
[14:34] morning, they should be done by the time
[14:36] we would have a Wednesday evening uh
[14:38] show. So we shouldn't have to be closed
[14:40] to the public more than what we the
[14:43] Monday Tuesday we already are. So
[14:47] » I think it's a good idea.
[14:48] >> Yeah, I think I think it's I think it's
[14:50] a great idea. And I I will say, you
[14:52] know, through the budget process and
[14:54] stuff, they didn't didn't come at us
[14:55] this year with a big long lengthy list.
[14:57] They're they're realistic and they're
[14:59] being good stewards of of a town home
[15:02] facility and trying to provide an
[15:04] opportunity for for our small town. So,
[15:07] I would have no heartburn in in cleaning
[15:09] it up and getting rid of the dust and and
[15:12] helping them achieve a financial success
[15:15] and and you know, doing our part for a
[15:18] town building. I I'm perfectly on board
[15:20] with it.
[15:20] >> I'm looking forward to seeing your book
[15:21] called Over the Curtains.
[15:24] If we do this, then that'll give Curtis
[15:25] more time to research cheaper popcorn.
[15:28] >> Cheaper popcorn. I like that. I like
[15:30] that.
[15:31] >> I got to tell you, I kind of I really
[15:33] like my popcorn.
[15:35] >> I know.
[15:35] >> I I ate a lot of really really really
[15:38] bad popcorn building up to the this. So,
[15:41] I don't want to go back there.
[15:43] >> I commented to him the other day. He
[15:45] said, you know, with the drought, he
[15:46] said the popping corn variety of corn
[15:49] being raised is a little tougher to get.
[15:50] The price is going to go up. Yep. Yeah,
[15:52] that's what he said in the meeting we
[15:53] had. That was
[15:55] >> Luckily, we we have not seen that price
[15:57] increase. Um I was afraid we would with
[15:59] the fires in Nebraska. Um it was my
[16:02] understanding and from talking to to the
[16:04] guys on the farm that that fire came up
[16:07] and took out several of their fields,
[16:09] >> but we have not seen that price increase
[16:12] passed on to us yet. So,
[16:14] >> we're we're we're good right now.
[16:17] >> Exactly. So,
[16:18] >> I think it's a great idea and I would
[16:20] move that we uh allow this to happen.
[16:23] >> Second.
[16:24] >> It's been moved and seconded. Is there
[16:26] any further discussion on uh StarMax LLC
[16:30] cleaning up theater?
[16:33] >> Hearing none. All in favor signify by
[16:34] saying I
[16:35] >> I oppose. Same sign. Motion will carry.
[16:39] >> Thank you, gentlemen. Wonder look better
[16:42] up there.
[16:44] >> It's Kevin. How good can he look?
[16:49] Um, next item up is uh the Axon
[16:53] agreement for the police department. And
[16:55] I see the chief's here. You want to you
[16:57] want to add anything to this discussion?
[16:59] >> I can briefly add a little bit. So
[17:03] the contract increased a little bit
[17:05] during uh the discussion with the the
[17:10] company versus from what I uh gave you
[17:13] guys in the budget meetings. The reason
[17:15] for that is there was some software
[17:18] differences that weren't added that we
[17:20] were told were going to be added. And
[17:22] then I did not, and this was on me, I
[17:25] did not put the fourth vehicle that we
[17:27] have at Arch to be built. I did not buy
[17:31] a new camera and get that set up with
[17:32] that. So there's the adjustments for
[17:34] that was we have a fourth car that we
[17:37] have to get a camera for. Um
[17:40] the the differences are going to be
[17:43] covered through salaries. I mean, we're
[17:45] going to have at least probably two
[17:46] months worth of salaries that are going
[17:48] to be two positions that aren't going to
[17:50] be filled. So, the cost should work
[17:53] itself out in the budget for the
[17:55] differences.
[18:01] » Brad, this is a
[18:03] an addition for the people here. I know
[18:06] we've talked about it a few times. um
[18:08] with this Axon program. This is covers a
[18:12] heck of a lot of liability things,
[18:14] covers a heck of a lot of safety things.
[18:16] So, this is a 10-year contract with
[18:18] Axon. So, we're going to be set for the
[18:19] next 10 years on and it's going to cover
[18:22] all of our body cam warn cameras, all of
[18:24] our incar cameras. Um, it's VR virtual
[18:28] reality training that we're going to be
[18:29] able to use with both the taser, pistol
[18:33] platform, and a rifle platform that we
[18:35] can do in-house training, virtual
[18:37] reality, two officer response type
[18:40] things. Um, again, that's all covered
[18:43] through a 10-year contract with
[18:46] replacement upgrades. The body cameras
[18:48] are upgraded every couple of years. The
[18:50] incar cameras are covered every couple
[18:52] of years. It includes what is called
[18:54] LPR, which is a license plate reader um
[18:57] that is connected into the incar cameras
[18:59] that reads the license plates will
[19:01] identify stolen vehicles uh ATL vehicles
[19:05] meaning like suicidal subject missing
[19:08] people those types of things they'll
[19:10] give us an alert through the camera
[19:11] system so I mean it's a a lot of
[19:14] technology it's not just one thing with
[19:16] the tasers I mean it covers all of our
[19:18] brand new tasers we'll get brand new
[19:20] tasers for the next 10 years um it
[19:22] covers all of our uh cartridges that we
[19:25] have. So, it's a lot wrapped up into the
[19:29] contract.
[19:37] » And this does this include that uh
[19:39] translation that we talked about?
[19:41] >> It does. So, with our bodywn cameras, we
[19:43] have it where we can translate uh 56
[19:47] languages and it's all recorded through
[19:49] that all AI AI technology. Um, there's a program that I was informed about that
[19:55] we already have, excuse me, that I can
[19:58] upload our department,
[20:01] excuse me, our department policies into
[20:04] it. We can put the bond schedules into
[20:06] it. We put state statute, town
[20:08] ordinance, all up into that. An officer
[20:10] can click a button, say, "Hey, what's
[20:11] the town ordinance for paraphernalia?"
[20:14] And it'll read off the statute or the
[20:16] ordinance and tell us the bond and
[20:17] everything. Wow. So, it's a lot. There's
[20:22] a lot. It's a uh there's a feature to it
[20:25] where it'll basically transcribe
[20:29] the body warn camera into a report form.
[20:32] Y
[20:32] >> and then the officer has to read through
[20:34] it and make changes. There's required
[20:36] changes that you have to do to it. So
[20:38] you're actually reviewing the report to
[20:40] make sure the information that's in it
[20:41] is correct.
[20:43] So I mean it's going to save time on
[20:45] reports. It's going to make accuracy on
[20:47] reports.
[20:49] Okay.
[20:51] Brad, I just the quote says it expires
[20:54] 7126
[20:56] 26. Are they extending that?
[21:01] » No, it's a 10ear contract.
[21:04] >> Oh, expires.
[21:06] >> Yeah, they
[21:08] covered.
[21:10] >> This is the one that they provided with
[21:11] me and then I just sign I'll have to
[21:13] sign that contract and send back
[21:21] Okay.
[21:25] I make a motion that we approve this act
[21:28] on agreement
[21:31] >> and authorized Brad to sign it.
[21:34] >> Second
[21:36] move and seconded. Is there any other
[21:38] discussion
[21:40] hearing? None. All in favor signify by
[21:42] saying I.
[21:43] >> I.
[21:46] Same sign. It covers cartridges. Gary
[21:49] Lochman said he'd like to try it once.
[21:53] >> Pick me.
[21:54] >> I have a waiver that we can find some
[21:57] recommended. I let him do it to me once.
[21:59] It wasn't fun.
[22:02] >> All right.
[22:04] And the last item under new business
[22:06] will be uh a discussion um on a contract
[22:11] for a building for the police department
[22:13] at 1302 9th Street.
[22:27] Doug, what is your input here?
[22:30] >> Well, I sent you guys a letter. Um,
[22:33] that's an old building and I think
[22:35] probably before you make an offer, I I
[22:38] know Sarah drafted the offer.
[22:42] from my perspective and for the town's
[22:44] perspective. I think you should ask for
[22:46] permission to do the inspections prior
[22:48] to that. Um and then actually you don't
[22:52] have much time in the contract to do the
[22:54] inspections but it gives you time to get
[22:57] and no offense to contractor but some
[22:59] qualified people to inspect that
[23:00] building inspect the the systems in that
[23:04] building do some asbestous either phase
[23:07] one is it phase one and two or phase
[23:09] three
[23:10] >> those sorts because I can tell you that
[23:12] building's older than I am
[23:14] >> really damn and that's pretty damn old.
[23:18] It was built right after Lar,
[23:22] >> maybe even before.
[23:24] But anyway, um and the example I use is
[23:29] if you remember that gas station in the
[23:31] motel across from uh Tasty Treats,
[23:35] >> they covered that because that outside
[23:38] stuckle was all was
[23:41] >> asbestous.
[23:42] >> And so you just don't want to buy
[23:45] something that you don't know everything
[23:46] about is my theory. I mean, it's
[23:49] ultimately your choice, but that's my
[23:51] biggest concern is all the systems. It's
[23:54] a pretty old building. And then um make
[23:57] sure you you know what you're buying and
[24:00] then you can make an offer saying here
[24:02] are the conditions and here's what you
[24:03] need to do.
[24:17] Yeah, I'd be interested to hear what
[24:19] anyone else has to say as well.
[24:21] >> Yeah. Is there any other comment at this
[24:23] time? Is there what's what's reasonable
[24:27] and customary there, realtor?
[24:29] >> Hi. So, in the contract, it's written
[24:32] that you're able to do you have a period
[24:34] of inspections. You can do any
[24:35] inspections that you would like to do as
[24:36] long as you're willing to pay for them.
[24:38] And you have a period to get that done.
[24:40] You can ask for repairs from the seller.
[24:43] does not agree to your
[24:45] repairs request, you can back out. So,
[24:49] you're not stuck in a contract with
[24:52] repairs that need to be done. So, if you
[24:54] find that there are catastrophic issues
[24:56] with property, you can back up.
[25:02] » And if it's not, if you feel like it's
[25:05] you guys feel like there's not an
[25:06] adequate amount of time, there's a few
[25:08] weeks open. So, if that doesn't feel
[25:10] like an adequate amount of time,
[25:15] But this uh Sarah, correct me if I'm
[25:17] wrong. This sets us up to where we kind
[25:20] of have our thumb on it at that point,
[25:23] right? And so if someone were to come in
[25:25] or whatever, we have our thumb there.
[25:28] >> Correct.
[25:29] >> If they accept your offer, there would
[25:31] be earnest money put up and they would
[25:33] not be able to accept other offers.
[25:34] >> Okay.
[25:35] >> Procedures. It's
[25:37] >> like buying a house. You go in, you get
[25:38] the inspections done after you make an
[25:40] offer. You got all the inspections done.
[25:41] Yeah, exactly.
[25:42] >> Negotiations take place, the prices.
[25:44] >> I just want it out in the open. Exactly
[25:46] what that looks like.
[25:46] >> Yeah, that's what I assume. This is just
[25:48] like that because having bought a couple
[25:51] houses traveling around the world,
[25:54] >> there's contingencies for financing and
[25:57] contingencies for repairs. So,
[26:00] inspections come up.
[26:03] >> I can tell you don't have enough time
[26:04] for the inspections.
[26:06] You have a month basically less than a
[26:09] month and you won't get all the inctions
[26:13] by appropriate people.
[26:19] » Is that negoti negotiable?
[26:21] >> We haven't made an offer.
[26:22] >> Yeah, absolutely. You can you can write
[26:25] in any amount of time that you would
[26:27] like for inspection.
[26:29] So, however much time you guys think
[26:31] part of it is I don't know who you want
[26:34] for inspectors. Most that I work with or
[26:40] testing lead testing which usually can
[26:44] be done within a couple weeks.
[26:48] I haven't had a lot of issues getting
[26:49] this package but I also don't know
[26:56] government building is new to me so work
[26:57] with me on this one.
[26:59] >> Well, we're not we the offer that you
[27:02] sent out we're not giving up the full
[27:05] asking price either.
[27:10] And you probably can't tell me this, but
[27:11] is that a hot commodity?
[27:13] >> Uh, there has been the the listing agent
[27:16] disclosed. There were people looking at
[27:18] it even today. So, there are interested
[27:20] buyers,
[27:22] >> but that's
[27:24] of
[27:37] your concern. I I truly do. And believe
[27:39] me, I I don't want to buy a lemon, but I
[27:42] also want to make sure we're not missing
[27:44] out on a very
[27:47] usable piece of property as well
[27:49] >> for a decent price.
[27:52] >> Today's market,
[27:53] >> the acreage, the building, there's a lot
[27:56] there that
[27:56] >> right,
[27:57] >> you know, have haven't walked through
[27:58] with the chief
[28:00] >> and the growth potential even to
[28:02] mitigate some of the stuff that we have
[28:03] right now would be immense.
[28:06] Um,
[28:16] » we have five minutes. Bring us to the
[28:17] podium.
[28:18] >> Just one man's opinion, Willie Allison.
[28:21] Thank you, mayor. Thank you, council. As
[28:24] I recall, you know, the three years and
[28:26] two months I was on, we were looking at
[28:29] the old Laram Ford dealership over there
[28:32] on South South Street. We looked at
[28:35] another building over there on Mariposa.
[28:39] We had a chance to get lock trucking.
[28:42] And don't get me wrong, I came here in
[28:44] 83. That building was poss.
[29:00] Thank you.
[29:05] Dave,
[29:09] » um,
[29:11] does a town really need more property
[29:13] when there are buildable
[29:15] acres that the town already owns?
[29:20] Um, building that they're currently in
[29:23] has been a problem for 20 years.
[29:27] and
[29:29] you're walking into the same type of
[29:31] situation where if you're going to
[29:33] rebuild a complete building again, why
[29:35] not just build a new building?
[29:39] And there is property within the town
[29:41] that you could put a building on that
[29:43] the town already owns,
[29:46] make work.
[29:48] My opinion
[29:55] And I know that
[29:58] being on the committee for uh the new PD
[30:01] wherever um we have looked at building a
[30:04] new building. The problem is it's you
[30:07] know we're going to have to go to a
[30:11] six penny tax type of situation to get
[30:13] to it. Um,
[30:17] the building across the street was a
[30:19] band-aid when they moved them in there
[30:21] and it's still
[30:24] held up kind of and right now it's to
[30:27] the point where it's trash. It's it's
[30:30] gone. Um,
[30:34] I understand uh we've looked at at
[30:37] custom build for this police department.
[30:42] Um, like I said, it's it's six, seven
[30:44] million bucks and Yeah. Yeah.
[30:48] >> Taj Mahal.
[30:50] >> And that's not a Taj Mahal.
[30:51] >> That is not a Taj Mahal. And I can tell
[30:54] you for the the square footage of that
[30:57] building down there, plus the land and
[30:59] everything with it. Um, it blows that
[31:02] 6,7 million out of the water. um for the
[31:05] simple fact you could go in there and
[31:06] put a million dollars into it and have
[31:08] exactly what you want versus uh what was
[31:12] the one we were looking at? It was like
[31:14] 10 12,000 square foot. The one that we
[31:18] were having.
[31:20] >> So custom build.
[31:21] >> Yeah.
[31:21] >> We were going to be able to do 8,000
[31:23] square feet for the custom build.
[31:25] >> Yes.
[31:28] >> So that's where we're kind of stuck
[31:29] between that rock and that hard place.
[31:31] We're like, there's some land around.
[31:33] There's a few things. We actually looked
[31:35] at a piece of land and uh offered on it.
[31:38] They decided they didn't want to get rid
[31:39] of it. Um and then trying to find a, you
[31:43] know, a a suitable location, I guess. Um
[31:47] for this building is another thing we've
[31:50] had to jump through over and over.
[31:55] Um, it looks like Tiffany Lane just
[31:59] commented, wanted to comment and she
[32:01] said, "Why doesn't the town look at
[32:03] spending money to fix the current
[32:05] building?" I know that the county fixed
[32:08] the Coleman building HVAC system for
[32:10] 200k seems a lot cheaper.
[32:16] » As far as fixing the current building,
[32:18] for one, they've outgrown it. There are
[32:20] regulations, and Chief, if I'm
[32:22] misspeaking, please step into this.
[32:24] There are regulations for evidence,
[32:26] things like that that we currently
[32:28] couldn't do even if we wanted to with
[32:30] the building we're currently in. Um,
[32:33] with the regulations written the way
[32:34] they are, and with the storage of
[32:37] evidence and things like that, you know,
[32:39] certain square footage or certain air
[32:41] movement, there's things like that that
[32:42] we have to do. I mean, you you you want
[32:45] to talk about chrome wheels on a dump
[32:47] truck, that's exactly what that would
[32:49] be.
[32:50] >> Well, and then the other complicating
[32:52] factor of that building is all of the
[32:54] heating, air conditioning, duct work is
[32:56] under the concrete slab and it's all
[32:59] collapsed. So, the band-aids or the
[33:01] lipstick on the pig, if you will, that
[33:03] we've done as we've thrown roof mount
[33:04] stuff on it to try to get by and keep
[33:06] using the building. So you you can't
[33:10] even make a solid argument that you've
[33:12] got good bones over there to reconstruct
[33:14] because you really don't.
[33:17] >> We really have kicked the can down the
[33:19] road one too many times with that
[33:20] building. We really have.
[33:23] >> I don't know that this is a perfect
[33:25] solution, but it is one worth
[33:27] discussing.
[33:34] And Billy, I take your point. I walked
[33:37] through the building a couple of times.
[33:38] I walked around the exterior of the
[33:39] building. I walked through the parking
[33:40] lot. Um I spent a lot of time looking at
[33:44] this
[33:46] and we have to be cognizant of how much
[33:48] money we're spending. Absolutely. And
[33:50] how much lipstick we want to put in a
[33:51] pig
[33:53] because at the end of the day, we want
[33:55] to make sure it's going to be something
[33:56] where we can stay for indefinite period
[33:58] of time. It's going to meet the
[33:59] requirements of our PD of the
[34:01] evidentiary requirements that we have
[34:04] including climate control and everything
[34:06] else. we cannot get in our current
[34:07] building. Um,
[34:10] but I think looking at and getting the
[34:12] qualified inspectors in to do a
[34:14] qualified inspection of the building
[34:17] doesn't mean we're buying the building.
[34:18] It means we know what we're getting or
[34:20] we know we're not going to get
[34:23] because at that point in time we can
[34:24] kind of no that's
[34:27] you're not going to be able to fix that
[34:28] much and we're not going to be willing
[34:29] to pay for that much. I think it's
[34:32] something that we can at least take a
[34:33] look at realistically, get the proper
[34:36] inspections done on it, and then make an
[34:38] intelligent decision from there. Because
[34:40] right now, you know, I don't work on
[34:42] emotion.
[34:44] I look at things very analytically and
[34:45] what's going to be better, you know,
[34:46] best for this community. And we've
[34:49] looked around town. We've had offers on
[34:51] different things. Even the old junior
[34:52] high was thrown out to us. But who wants
[34:54] a PD right in the middle of housing
[34:57] >> and in that building, too?
[34:58] >> No. Nobody wants that.
[34:59] >> Talk about problems. Yeah.
[35:01] >> So, they were going to tear down the
[35:02] building and give us the land to build.
[35:04] >> Yeah. We've looked at all these
[35:06] different aspect of things. We
[35:07] considered them, but
[35:08] >> what's best for the community and
[35:09] where's the best place to put a PD?
[35:12] >> Oh, most of it. Sorry.
[35:14] >> No, you go ahead.
[35:15] >> Most definitely. You know, and I what I
[35:18] was just bringing up, you know, that we
[35:20] did look at Laramie Peak before the
[35:22] county had to move out of the
[35:23] courthouse.
[35:24] >> They put a boatload of money into fixing
[35:26] the office area in Laramie Peak or the
[35:30] Ford dealership and
[35:33] which would have suited our fancy would
[35:35] have helped out PD. Don't get me wrong,
[35:38] I'm not against PD getting a bigger
[35:40] building by no means,
[35:42] but also lock trucking was offered to us
[35:45] also, but there again, back in that day,
[35:49] we didn't have
[35:51] the money
[35:53] >> to throw out there because we had water
[35:55] tower and we had 16th Street going at
[35:57] the same time.
[35:58] >> Absolutely.
[36:00] We were kind of
[36:02] strapped.
[36:03] >> Oh, we're still there.
[36:04] >> Well, and then, oh, I forgot we had the
[36:07] ladder truck had also. But no, by no
[36:11] means, you know, I just think there's a
[36:13] better building
[36:16] than the old Chevrolet place down there.
[36:20] you know those baywood those windows on
[36:23] outside of the office area
[36:27] going to take a lot.
[36:30] >> What is the asking price for the
[36:32] building?
[36:33] >> What the 500,000 do I think?
[36:35] >> Okay. And are inspections included or is
[36:39] there in you have that in the budget? I
[36:42] mean if you don't buy it you and we're
[36:44] going to spend some money for
[36:45] inspections that's all covered.
[36:46] >> Yeah. I mean yeah we that's inherent
[36:49] risk. We know that, but we also want to
[36:51] try to make sure we know what we're
[36:54] getting. Yeah, we're up against.
[36:57] >> Yeah. We don't want to put them in a
[36:59] junior high by no no means business.
[37:02] >> Well, no. Even the whole thing the
[37:03] junior high was they're going to tear
[37:04] the building down, give us a lot, but
[37:06] nobody wants a PD in the middle of a
[37:07] housing area.
[37:08] >> No. No.
[37:09] >> Sure. The sirens going off at night
[37:11] would be welcomed by all residents.
[37:13] >> Right.
[37:14] If I can add a little bit to help a
[37:17] little bit with like different
[37:18] properties and the buildings that we
[37:19] have to look at, one of the big things
[37:21] that we have to look at is the response
[37:23] of
[37:25] where we're coming from and where we're
[37:27] going. So, if we get the old Junior High
[37:29] property, we're responding lights and
[37:32] sirens at higher speeds through
[37:35] residential districts where kids are out
[37:39] playing, dogs are out running around,
[37:42] balls are being ran or thrown across the
[37:44] street. We've got to be cautious of
[37:45] where we're responding. The other thing
[37:47] that we got to be looking at when we're
[37:49] looking at buildings and property is the
[37:51] security of the building as well. Where
[37:53] are we our access points, our exit
[37:55] points for the building? I mean, we're
[37:58] not always like people target law
[37:59] enforcement. So, we have to have that
[38:01] security and and the quick road access
[38:05] is like that. So, I understand what you
[38:07] guys are saying and I'm you know, Jason
[38:09] and the council, the committee, we've
[38:12] all visited about different properties
[38:13] and buildings around town, but we have a
[38:16] lot that more goes into it than just uh
[38:19] building. We have to look at security
[38:20] aspects, response times. You know, I
[38:24] can't have a police department in the
[38:25] middle of of town where we're responding
[38:27] through communities.
[38:29] >> Well, I'm not saying we get to junior
[38:31] high. I think personally junior high
[38:34] needs torn down.
[38:36] That's the school's expense, not ours,
[38:38] you know. Well, we looked at, you know,
[38:41] we've looked at uh
[38:43] we've been working on this for a long
[38:45] time and and we've looked at, you know,
[38:47] the different areas you go out like
[38:49] Paragon Way where, you know,
[38:52] >> one way in, one way out and that's our
[38:54] big worry about that, you know, the same
[38:56] way with go down one more uh cul I guess
[38:59] go south one more culde-sac where um
[39:03] >> Progress
[39:03] >> Yeah, Progress Court is same way. One
[39:06] way in, one way out. Um Uh, I know from
[39:09] an emergency standpoint of my life,
[39:11] there's that's that's the biggest threat
[39:13] you could ever have is to be pinned in
[39:15] somewhere and not be able to get
[39:17] somewhere, right?
[39:18] >> Um, everyone was like, you know, what
[39:19] about the the lot across the uh Gil
[39:22] Crest, go right across Gilchrist uh
[39:24] railroad tracks to the left. Well, if a
[39:27] trains there, guess what? You know,
[39:29] that's why when we built Eastern Wing
[39:31] Ambulance back in the day, we built it
[39:33] out with a large roadway and everything
[39:35] else, you know. Um, so there's, please
[39:38] understand there's a lot of thought
[39:40] that's gone into this. We've looked at
[39:41] tons of different things and well, this
[39:44] might work, that might work, you know,
[39:47] so
[39:48] it's we we definitely banged our head
[39:51] against the wall on this one.
[39:52] >> Yeah. And I I I would add to your your
[39:54] train of thought. I mean, this is the
[39:55] first one that we've maybe gotten more
[39:57] serious about and we're willing to throw
[40:01] some money at inspections and move
[40:03] forward in the process to see if it
[40:05] works. There's been lots of could a
[40:07] would a shouldas and lots of lookie
[40:09] looing, but this is the first one that
[40:10] maybe we're
[40:12] taking more action on. And that's not to
[40:14] say that we're lock and barrel going to
[40:16] do it. It's just it's of enough interest
[40:18] that we need to explore the ability of
[40:21] doing it for sure.
[40:23] >> Oh, most definitely. Well, and the
[40:25] elephant in the room, I I I worry that
[40:28] if we don't make a move on this with
[40:30] this amount of ground that we would get
[40:32] with the building itself, it goes to
[40:35] someone else. Where else is there that
[40:38] couldn't even come up for sale that
[40:39] would, you know, that we could even look
[40:42] at, I guess.
[40:42] >> What's the lot again?
[40:44] >> Acre and half.
[40:45] >> An acre and a half lot that we're going
[40:47] to have included with this whole thing.
[40:48] So, I mean,
[40:49] >> and it's already fenced, too. I mean,
[40:51] and it's security fence and there's just
[40:53] there's a lot of there's a lot of pros.
[40:56] There are cons, but um
[41:00] our scale as a as a mayor and council
[41:03] says it's worth digging a little deeper
[41:05] into before we say yes or no. So I know
[41:08] sir you said uh there are provisions in
[41:10] here if we need to have all the things
[41:13] done that that uh uh Doug Weaver's asked
[41:17] for that can be done with the signing of
[41:20] this and we're still okay with
[41:23] everything we do have the opportunity to
[41:24] back out this
[41:27] you don't have he he could fix it
[41:31] >> but you might not like the fix all
[41:34] guaranteed this way I'm just saying be
[41:36] cautious of everything you do.
[41:38] >> No, but I mean we can still have our
[41:39] inspections.
[41:40] >> Yeah, but I think if you're going to
[41:42] have them, you got to extend that
[41:43] inspection time out because right now
[41:45] it's you have to give him a letter by
[41:48] August Well, you have to have those done
[41:51] and give them the notice by August 12th.
[41:55] And that isn't going to give you time.
[41:57] I'll guarantee you that will not give
[41:58] you time to do it appropriate. If you do
[42:01] it, I would suggest at minimum of 60
[42:03] days out.
[42:05] So thanks sir.
[42:07] >> You can ask for anything
[42:09] >> and see what the seller says.
[42:10] >> Okay.
[42:11] >> And then probably so we know the title
[42:14] insurance. A lot of times we name the
[42:15] title insurance company one in town
[42:18] that's premier title just
[42:21] >> that's four weeks and two days from
[42:23] today
[42:25] August 12th.
[42:26] What about a six weeks we can ask for? I
[42:29] think that would be inspe
[42:36] » Oh, absolutely.
[42:38] >> You guys need special something.
[42:40] >> We'll kind of be realistic about getting
[42:41] the inspectors in and not also having
[42:44] him wait. Now, I appreciate his holding
[42:47] on and working with us on this. It's
[42:49] also a matter of I think a six week
[42:51] window will give us more opportunity to
[42:52] get the proper people in to look at
[42:54] things.
[42:55] >> That's up to you.
[42:56] >> So, I would be fine. Yeah.
[42:58] >> Would you be okay with that?
[42:59] >> I'd be all right.
[43:00] >> All right. So, I propose I make a motion
[43:04] we accept this contract with a six week
[43:08] period for inspections.
[43:11] >> I would second that
[43:12] >> and name Premier Title as a title.
[43:14] >> Name Premier Title as a company
[43:16] >> and extend the closing date then.
[43:19] >> Yeah.
[43:22] >> Yes. Correct.
[43:25] >> The initial two weeks past that
[43:28] >> is that
[43:30] >> manageable.
[43:32] >> Yes sir.
[43:34] >> You want me to stand up? Thanks for
[43:36] coming.
[43:38] >> I just my only my only comment on all
[43:41] this is we went through it about about
[43:43] uh Scott Warner went through this about
[43:46] six months ago. My only recommendation
[43:48] just listening would would say do a
[43:51] phase one do it if you want to give it
[43:53] six weeks if it's an older building I
[43:56] would do a phase you know phase one
[43:58] inspection and maybe give yourself um an
[44:02] additional additional runway and time if
[44:05] a phase two is required because if if a
[44:08] phase two required I would agree with Doug you have it's going to take
[44:12] longer and you're going to have to make
[44:14] the decision on who pays for the phase
[44:16] two try to be the talent, but you just
[44:19] give yourself a little better runway on
[44:22] uh on the phase two site. I think you'll set yourself up for um for a
[44:26] little more um success if if it requires
[44:30] it. So, sorry to interrupt
[44:33] and she can write that in and say if
[44:35] phase two is required,
[44:37] >> you know, whatever whatever additional
[44:39] time frame you need to call it another,
[44:41] you know, three, four weeks or whatever
[44:42] because that might
[44:44] >> No, thank you for the input. That's why
[44:46] we have no that's why we have discussion
[44:48] period after
[44:48] >> absolutely
[44:49] >> this is exactly why we have discussion
[44:51] after voting
[44:54] >> I will amend my motion
[44:56] >> and I will second
[44:57] >> to a phase one inspection to be
[44:59] completed within six weeks
[45:01] >> then have the opportunity
[45:03] >> phase two
[45:04] >> what he said
[45:05] >> in so many
[45:06] >> yeah I'm not sure how how long it takes
[45:08] to get a phase two and you know in your
[45:10] area but I just know they're a lot more
[45:12] complex
[45:13] >> the write up takes longer so Yeah, you
[45:16] guys probably have more experience with
[45:17] that, but I that's my only
[45:20] >> Yeah. And there's no guarantee that it's
[45:22] needed, but if it is, there's
[45:23] >> just Yeah, it just gives you that offer
[45:25] if you do need it.
[45:28] >> This is the learn as we go thing for
[45:30] sure.
[45:33] >> So, a motion and a second for the
[45:35] >> phase one inspection
[45:36] >> for six weeks followed by a phase two if
[45:40] necessary
[45:42] >> and Premier Title Company as a title.
[45:47] You got all that.
[45:49] >> All right.
[45:51] >> Is there any further comments at this
[45:53] time?
[45:56] Hearing none. All in.
[45:57] >> Yeah.
[45:58] >> Something Jason said a minute ago. I can
[46:00] stand up if you want.
[46:03] >> Yeah. Go ahead, John. Stand up. Be
[46:05] official.
[46:08] >> Uh John Odum. Uh something you said
[46:10] Jason which got me to thinking you were
[46:13] talking about the lot right across
[46:14] Gilcraft on the north side of the road.
[46:16] If there's a train coming then couldn't
[46:19] respond. Would the same be said for
[46:22] being on this side of the tracks if
[46:24] something's going down you couldn't
[46:25] respond east of the tracks?
[46:27] >> A lot of I can just tell you like with
[46:29] the ambulance service um it was for one
[46:34] most of our town is on this side. We do
[46:36] have some out there. I get it. Um, but
[46:38] we had I mean we've had times where we
[46:41] responded and had to get on the radio
[46:43] and call Burlington Northern and say get
[46:45] your train moved. Um, because we try to
[46:48] jump, you know, you know, where the
[46:49] crossings are arguing that I was curious
[46:52] if there was a reason.
[46:54] >> Well, and and the majority of the town
[46:56] being on this side of it, I I worry a
[46:59] heck of a lot less about that response,
[47:01] you know, over here than I would. you
[47:04] know, the guys are at briefing and all
[47:05] of a sudden we got to train across three
[47:07] tracks and we've got something popping
[47:08] off, you know, whatever.
[47:10] >> No, I totally understand.
[47:11] >> It's kind of crazy, man. It's it's a
[47:13] planning nightmare, if you will. So,
[47:18] >> looking for a little deeper,
[47:21] >> you definitely have to look at where the
[47:23] primary calls are, like what side of
[47:24] town is our primary. We get majority,
[47:27] you know, the majority of our calls are
[47:28] on this side of the railroad tracks
[47:30] >> to where traverses over there. So, we
[47:32] have to be
[47:36] curious.
[47:40] » Yes,
[47:42] >> were we finished with number eight?
[47:47] » I Well, I got to call the vote.
[47:48] >> Oh, yeah. Okay, that's where I thought
[47:50] you were.
[47:50] >> If there are no other comments,
[47:54] all in favor signify by saying I
[47:57] >> I post same sign. Motion will carry now.
[48:00] Yes. Okay.
[48:02] So, you're you're just before you
[48:06] adjourn, can I go back to number one and
[48:09] just um what's the time frame for that
[48:13] IT contract? When when do you need to
[48:16] have something new in place?
[48:19] >> I don't know that we're going to call
[48:20] for new. We're going to talk to the two
[48:22] people who have
[48:24] >> put in the submissions
[48:26] >> and then I guess on the the going
[48:29] forward, was it a was it a bid document
[48:33] poorly written? I mean to to get to
[48:36] drastically different interpretations.
[48:40] So are you going to redo the bid
[48:42] document?
[48:42] >> I that's what we need to talk about.
[48:45] Okay. I feel like to be very honest with
[48:47] you, I feel like after reading through
[48:49] the contracts, there was uh obviously
[48:52] the one bidder is the current uh IT
[48:56] provider and I feel like they had a heck
[48:58] of a lot of information that not the
[49:02] other side didn't have.
[49:03] >> Okay.
[49:04] >> Um and it's not information that would
[49:07] it it's an itemized thing. One side had
[49:11] an exact numbers the other side did not.
[49:13] And I think that that's something that
[49:15] I'm not comfortable with. Um saying, "Oh
[49:18] yeah, we can go this route and you know
[49:20] be fine with it and you know even though
[49:23] it's not apples to apples."
[49:25] >> Okay. But so the current provider will
[49:28] continue even though the contract is up
[49:31] for renewal if
[49:32] >> y
[49:34] have a little bit of time on.
[49:35] >> Okay.
[49:37] >> Thank you.
[49:43] There any other comment at this time?
[49:46] Questions or concerns?
[49:50] Hearing none. Uh make the announcement
[49:53] that the next regularly scheduled uh
[49:56] meeting will be August 10th at 7 p.m.
[49:58] right here. And uh enjoy attendance. So
[50:01] invite all of you to come back on August
[50:03] 10th and we'll we'll do it again. That
[50:06] will return the meeting. need me. You
[50:08] say that all the time. Brandon,
[50:11] >> do you guys want to do a workshop
[50:13] >> for the IT contract? What do we want to
[50:15] do?
[50:17] >> You just drove all
[50:19] >> Yeah, I know.
[50:20] >> But do we want to have like a workshop
[50:22] so
[50:26] I think we should.
[50:27] >> Yeah, I mean happy to accommodate
[50:29] however you guys. I mean, again, I think
[50:31] we happy to not sure how if there was
[50:34] discrepancy in, you know, information
[50:37] delivered it was more
[50:40] I'm not we didn't pull the information
[50:42] together so we just reported on what
[50:44] exist
[50:56] » came across
[51:03] » I know you were like
[51:04] >> I'm doing good how are you
[51:06] making comment. I'm sure it was much
[51:08] appreciated.
[51:09] >> A little rest and relaxation hopefully.
[51:12] All new ones. I mean,
[51:18] that was an eye