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[0:00] All right, I have seven o'clock. We'll call the, don't board meeting for August 17th, 2026 to order.
[0:06] First item on the agenda is the agenda. Patrick changes. None from staff, Mr. Chair.
[0:13] Board of anything? Mr. Chair, I have none. Nothing.
[0:16] All right, I need a motion to approve. Move the to approve the agenda as submitted.
[0:22] Oh, there she is. All right. All right, the motion carries item three is approval payment bills.
[0:26] I signed off and moved to a proof payment of the bills.
[0:31] I'll pay her say aye.
[0:33] Opposed?
[0:34] That motion carries.
[0:35] I am four is a approval and prior meeting minutes from August 3rd.
[0:40] Anybody got any changes?
[0:42] I saw none.
[0:43] I saw none.
[0:44] I'll reach out a minute, take her.
[0:47] I'll move to a proof of the prior meeting minutes from August 3rd.
[0:51] On second.
[0:52] I'll pay her say aye.
[0:54] Opposed?
[0:54] All right, I don't five of us can just enter gender item. We have five of the boardal K with these one stand one.
[1:02] I'm fine with him.
[1:04] You too.
[1:05] The motion to approve.
[1:06] I'll make the motion to approve.
[1:08] I'll second step.
[1:09] There.
[1:10] Hi.
[1:11] All right.
[1:12] Item six.
[1:13] Bellar upon stormwater improvement project.
[1:15] Larry, are you going to cover that one?
[1:17] Yes.
[1:17] Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[1:19] Tom Board.
[1:21] In your packet, our plans for preliminary plans for the Bellar upon.
[1:26] If the board would recall,
[1:31] the Township purchased a parcel of land at the intersection of
[1:35] Bellyer Avenue in social, which were a ball of iron a number of years ago, or the purposes
[1:40] of constructing us some stormwater facilities on that lot.
[1:46] So since that time, we have now been programming this project to be completed and what we're
[1:56] And I guess I should say that this intersection, this area is severely undersized for stormwater.
[2:04] And so we have instances where we get large rain events and it's discharging and washing
[2:11] out bell air beach.
[2:13] And so we have programed this project as well as improvements on the belliered beach side
[2:18] of the property to help address the stormwater deficiencies in that area in this area.
[2:26] So I want to walk through the plans and the plans are in the packet, we've made a few slight modifications to the plans, then the version that you see in the packet, we've been meeting with Rice Creek Watershed District and Ramsey County on this project, our project, ties in closely with Ramsey County's ditch project, which they just re did a few weeks ago.
[2:56] along this area. And so what our project is planned to do is to intercept water, and you
[3:03] can, if you look on the screen here, intercept water in a 22 inch arch pipe that's a long
[3:10] bell or avenue, directed to this ponding area that would be excavated as a part of the project,
[3:18] and then it would flow through an outlet on a smaller diameter opening or a smaller damper pipe
[3:25] opening. So it slowly discharged the water downstream to reduce some of the velocities
[3:33] that we're seeing on the bell air beach side of the project. So by doing this project
[3:39] we add storm water capacity currently or in some recent storm events that's over
[3:47] top the roadway in this area. So this would hopefully address that situation. There is
[3:54] additional redundancy in this plan, including an outlet structure here. If
[3:59] when the pond fills up to a certain level, it would overflow into an overflow
[4:05] structure and discharge down. And then there's also an opening between our new
[4:12] pond and the ditch to allow water to discharge that way. If in fact we have extremely
[4:22] the large storm event.
[4:26] The project itself and the Bellar Beach project would not address all
[4:33] the storm water concerns in this area but it certainly will help.
[4:41] This is a restoration plan
[4:43] for the area and we've been working with the property owners met the neighbor to the east and the
[4:54] installing fence that the county put in and has left for us to reinstall along the the order,
[5:03] the resident on the east side is requesting some coniferous shrubs deep planted in front of
[5:09] that fence and so the planning includes that as well. There are three large trees, mature trees that
[5:15] I'll be taking out as a part of this project. One is a very beautiful large oak here at the intersection
[5:21] and there's two large maples in this area.
[5:25] We are preserving a large tree in this vicinity.
[5:30] I can't remember the species there.
[5:32] And there's also two large yolks in the corner
[5:35] that we're preserving as well.
[5:39] So the area will be planted with a kind of a ditch mix
[5:45] in through here.
[5:47] And I'm sorry, ditch mist around the edges
[5:49] and then a wet land mix on the bottom of the pond.
[5:56] The total project costs for this project are $365,500.
[6:04] That includes the purchase price and the lot, the design costs, the construction costs
[6:10] are about $124,000 estimated and $20,000 for construction administration.
[6:18] A portion of this project, 93,000 is secured through a grant through Rice Creek Watershed District.
[6:28] And so with approval tonight of the plans, we are looking forward to moving this to the bidding process
[6:35] and through that bidding process, it would be constructed yet this fall.
[6:40] Well, the grant agreement requires that we complete the project by the end of the year.
[6:45] So with that tonight, looking for approval, the plans of specifications and authorized bidding for the project.
[6:54] There are little outlets adjustable.
[6:57] You set those or change them?
[6:59] Well, okay, so this outlet here has a 12-inch outlet.
[7:05] We got a 22-inch archpipe coming in.
[7:08] We have a 12-inch going out, and then we have a restrictor on that 12-inch to go down to an 8-inch.
[7:13] And so we can pull at it any time if we if we want to. Otherwise the pond would fill and go into that with structure.
[7:22] Right now it's already water standing in there.
[7:24] Right now it's just a lot, a gravel lot.
[7:32] There's no water standing. How does this integrate with the county project that they were doing on this corner? What, that green into this?
[7:44] or their work this fall included a saffle baffle, which is a device that helps control
[7:55] sediment, and they have a pipe that runs in their ditch that comes down to some other
[8:03] other structures, and they also have filtration, type media, below that that will allow for
[8:11] water to try to infiltrate the ground that the soils aren't great for that here, so they
[8:17] had to amend the soils to adapt to try to get some of that filtration.
[8:24] There's basically a standalone project, it's not going to fill up our retention.
[8:30] Well we're intercepting the water after it hits the sample baffle, we're intercepting their
[8:35] pipe and directing it this way.
[8:37] Okay, we'll be in the near future.
[8:40] Yeah, so we have to reduce a small portion
[8:42] of their filtration area right here.
[8:48] Right, a long long time ago,
[8:51] because they said she lived over there,
[8:52] it was like, I don't know, it was like a hundred-year flood
[8:55] incident or maybe as a 500-year,
[8:57] and it was people right around their boats.
[8:59] There was so much water there.
[9:01] Is that going to help mitigate that?
[9:02] Should it ever happen again?
[9:04] It will help, yes.
[9:06] It won't mitigate it entirely.
[9:07] Like I said, this area is huge.
[9:09] So, it's a virally under, under, under capacity.
[9:15] Thanks.
[9:15] It's a stormwater.
[9:17] I mean, the main purpose for this is it is a direct benefit
[9:20] to like their lake itself.
[9:23] They run its storm run off and runs down the beach
[9:26] and takes out sand and everything else with it.
[9:30] It's a storm.
[9:31] It's a step.
[9:34] I'll involve this waste creek in the project.
[9:38] Yeah.
[9:38] So they're funding partner in this project.
[9:42] And then they have reviewed the plans and are happy with the plans.
[9:48] And the same thing with Ramsey County, Ramsey County,
[9:51] would have been meeting with several weeks here,
[9:55] as we finalize these plans.
[9:57] They'd be sending anybody of their representatives,
[9:58] they'll all of the project or not.
[10:01] And it's strictly on the phone.
[10:03] I don't know what their process is for that.
[10:06] If they would send someone out,
[10:07] They probably will send probably an erosion control person out.
[10:11] Make sure the erosion control is is a sufficient for the project until it's stabilized.
[10:18] And the proposed future project on the opposite side of the road is that eligible for grant funding
[10:25] Yes, the same reason rationale is this is that it will it has received grant funding from race Creek as well.
[10:32] So and so that's redoing the parking lot and and other features of the park and then
[10:39] put providing storm water on that side as well.
[10:45] Because Bellar Beach really is a Ramsey county property,
[10:49] but it's really ours by a long term.
[10:52] This is that air to sink yet.
[10:58] And the funding probably from the county to the county.
[11:02] I think I haven't dug into that project.
[11:04] I'm just waiting yet.
[11:06] But I don't think so.
[11:07] I think that's all came up when they saw the shore below our view.
[11:15] All right.
[11:15] The other questions?
[11:17] Larry, you want this in two separate motions?
[11:21] I think it could be one.
[11:23] Yeah.
[11:23] One bit better.
[11:25] Just a pretty resolution.
[11:29] Right.
[11:29] What's worse, pleasure?
[11:31] Well, based on the town engineer review and recommendation,
[11:34] not a doctor resolution,
[11:36] moving plans and specifications for the project 20263 and we're doing it all in one and
[11:45] authorize advertisement for Bids for the Bell Air Pond Stormwater Influsual Print.
[11:52] All right.
[11:52] Second.
[11:53] All right.
[11:54] That motion's here.
[11:56] All right.
[11:57] Moving on.
[11:57] Item 6B.
[11:58] This is the.
[11:59] And then 70 Lakewood Avenue property.
[12:02] Yes, Mr. Chair.
[12:04] Just.
[12:04] And that's a bad news, we didn't, or this sale of that property has also fallen for
[12:12] the buyers, didn't get anything kind of specific about why it is, or with other offer, but
[12:19] good news is that we do have a decision to at least deliberate upon if not make the decision
[12:26] not in the night, that you have the other offer that was presented to the board in the
[12:32] that this one is still viable,
[12:37] difference is two major caveats, number one, close with
[12:42] not be until middle of February, number seven, however, same sale price, but the interested
[12:52] parties would for half of the sale price in earnest. Now, the chair and I had a discussion today
[13:00] about whether or not it is going to impact the pound shift in the negative way if you chose
[13:07] to take the property off the market while we waited for it to close in February and guess
[13:13] what we're just talking about from the board's comfortable with that going forward if this
[13:19] is the direction you do.
[13:23] Six months, so I felt a little uneasy taking it off the market.
[13:27] I'm not sure, I'll really or might be able to help us there, but not sure why you can't stay on the market with that often.
[13:36] It's been known to accept the offer, but the condition that she's told the right to be free is just the property.
[13:44] And you can get another offer in, the first offer, the buyer has the right to either matter or, oh, it's not.
[13:51] It's been known if you've done it, it's a little rare.
[13:53] It can be done that way.
[13:56] All right.
[13:57] That's.
[13:57] I like that.
[13:58] I'd like to see it keep it for sale.
[14:01] You know, the seven other guy.
[14:03] I know about that.
[14:04] That's a good option.
[14:05] Yeah, it's rare.
[14:06] And the reason it's rare is because your first buyer doesn't like the idea of it.
[14:11] If you remember that.
[14:13] You put it bluntly like that.
[14:16] So it's not.
[14:17] It's very often.
[14:19] Okay.
[14:19] Well, again, it's not like we have to have a fire sale.
[14:23] So I think that's a fair approach and give him the right
[14:26] of first conclusion.
[14:28] OK, I'll give you that chance.
[14:30] Sure.
[14:31] We need a motion or can we just tap?
[14:35] I would think just have a step, follow up.
[14:38] You're red?
[14:39] Oh, that.
[14:41] I feel much better.
[14:43] OK.
[14:44] OK.
[14:44] All right.
[14:44] Thank you.
[14:45] Item 7, public hearing we have none.
[14:48] Item 8 is new business.
[14:49] This is a Saturday, Augustuson.
[14:52] It's just a bit of a metric.
[14:54] Yeah, or Senator Gustafson who has been a really good partner of the township over the last year.
[15:00] Last few years, he was key in acquiring our infrastructure, money that we have in this specific one,
[15:12] water, sewer, and streets primarily, and other actions in projects that we have around the township.
[15:21] He has been recognized as a legislator of distinction or for her actions in leadership.
[15:29] And I've decided it's up to the board but we might want to just formally recognize her as doing a good job.
[15:39] I'll be that up to you guys are publicly elected officials.
[15:44] So staff thinks she's great.
[15:46] We love work with the office and like I said, she's been very good to us.
[15:51] Yes, she's helped that a lot.
[15:52] Out of here.
[15:56] Well, the comments?
[15:59] You want a formal motion on this?
[16:02] No, I think just recognizing her as being a benefits to her, or district, and specifically
[16:09] wipe her down ship would be planning and recognizing her and this award that she could
[16:14] do.
[16:15] How do we convey our thoughts to her?
[16:19] I could just let her know that the board is on board with recognizing her.
[16:23] The only thing I worry about a little bit about this is, do we recognize everybody who gets
[16:29] Lord?
[16:30] Would you draw a line?
[16:32] No, I know we worked with this, but now next week it's going to be another commissioner that
[16:37] it's got a oral ward, do we have to recognize that one?
[16:42] I don't know.
[16:43] I don't know.
[16:44] Yeah.
[16:44] When they bring us 7 million bucks, we're fine doing it.
[16:47] That was nice.
[16:49] I heard.
[16:49] Get all that.
[16:51] But you're not going to be transparent.
[16:52] It's not creating kind of precedent.
[16:54] Okay.
[16:54] The commissioner gives us $7,000,000,000.
[16:57] Yeah.
[16:59] So we should all just say thank you Heather.
[17:02] Keep up the good work and respect you for...
[17:04] Welcome, she didn't show up and take a bow.
[17:07] She's out.
[17:08] Helping other communities add.
[17:11] All right.
[17:13] Moving on.
[17:13] Thank you.
[17:15] Okay.
[17:15] Item 9 is a vacant building in commission position.
[17:19] You have plenty of vacant buildings to worry.
[17:23] Oh sorry.
[17:25] My brain.
[17:26] We actually are starting to do very well.
[17:29] Starting to fill a lot of our spots.
[17:30] We only have two left over all of them.
[17:36] As of this last week.
[17:38] Which ones are left?
[17:40] You brought board to build.
[17:42] Which one was filled?
[17:43] Our board was filled.
[17:45] I want to say we have one left.
[17:47] with EDAB, or the public, will you explain what that,
[17:52] what the EDAB is?
[17:53] Sure, that is our advisory board to the economic development
[17:58] authority, which is a township of White Bear,
[18:02] which has properties and holding around the township.
[18:06] These stable property being one of those that they meet.
[18:10] They've been more meeting quarterly over the last year,
[18:13] just because the township is by all intents and purposes built out. But as we get into a redevelopment phase of the township, we believe that that board or that commission is going to be drawn upon more frequently. So we're going to probably go back and meeting monthly.
[18:33] All of our boards and commissions will be meeting monthly going forward.
[18:40] We've even added a new one, a steering committee for our comp plan, which is meeting monthly here in the beginning to set some groundwork for that.
[18:51] I think the only other one beside the EDAB we've got an open board chair or board seat is utility.
[18:58] So, we had two open ones because George came back.
[19:03] Yeah, two, so we got them back.
[19:05] Oh, pretty cool.
[19:08] Oh, yeah.
[19:09] That whole thing.
[19:09] Yeah.
[19:10] Done that.
[19:11] But we don't have one on the utility.
[19:13] Oh, so only the EDAB that has an opening?
[19:15] I believe so.
[19:16] Oh, is that one just a resident?
[19:18] That's not a business owner.
[19:19] That is a resident.
[19:20] Yeah.
[19:20] That's what I was going to ask you.
[19:21] So if someone is interested, the criteria to be a reply is just a resident with an interest, correct.
[19:33] And it just might be a good idea every now and then to talk about what some of these, when we have openings, what these committees advisory boards actually do.
[19:41] In a nutshell, what would you describe the planning commission?
[19:45] You do that because you sit on the planet.
[19:50] Well, they're an advisory board that gives the Talon board guidance along with the planner and others as to our zoning and ordinances.
[20:02] And look at updating and changing things as needed.
[20:07] They're all volunteer professionals.
[20:09] Utility commission.
[20:11] would you sit on? Well, how would you describe that? Well, it's actually quite interesting
[20:16] because you know you never think of the infrastructure but it's you know you deal with
[20:20] you know garbage sewer issues with residents with regard to their infrastructure.
[20:26] That's interesting.
[20:30] The thing that residents should know about serving on the commission before it is you have a
[20:38] direct advisory impact
[20:44] on all facets and on spread over those issues.
[20:48] In the park board, this is another example of a, it's called a board versus a commission,
[20:53] why don't I know how they ever named it a park board versus a park commission, but it is,
[20:59] and they are direct source for planning our, our own chip days, they are, they plan movies
[21:09] in the park, they work on trails in any park acquisitions or improvements and they've really
[21:15] gotten involved and deep into capital projects and parks this past year as well.
[21:23] Like I said, there's real opportunity to have some influence on how the township improves
[21:29] itself annually.
[21:30] Then the other commission that we didn't have an opening for was public safety and that
[21:36] is another volunteer carry group that looks at issues of importance to our residents as far as
[21:43] safety items and you sit on that one.
[21:45] I do.
[21:46] It seems like you kind of go to log your heads with Ramsey Connie quite often.
[21:49] Right off.
[21:50] Unthings.
[21:51] It seems like that one's kind of a, but you persist.
[21:58] Well, keep putting this on there until we've got every seat belt.
[22:02] How's that?
[22:03] I like it.
[22:03] You still keep doing a news and news?
[22:05] Yes.
[22:07] All right.
[22:08] That did on it.
[22:09] Sir more question. You have a lease position on a year d b
[22:16] E d a b. Thank you and isn't supposed to see somebody from planning commission
[22:22] I think we used to but I don't know you don't do it anymore. I think we do that anymore. Okay
[22:30] All right, item 10, that agenda item is we have none, item 11 is open time. If you're here for open time, you have to come up to the podium. I need a name and an address and I need to limit your comments to about three minutes.
[22:48] Hey, I'm Molly O'Connor. I live on five three seven eight and really lean and I've talked to Larry on the phone a million times
[22:58] The project on Andrew Lee Lane is
[23:01] Then my neighbor
[23:03] And it's not your fault I understand that
[23:09] It started on a Friday and they were up at one in the morning
[23:14] So I got woke up on a Friday at one in the morning, trucks were all out, beep, beep, and the lights were on.
[23:21] And then on Monday, I called Larry everybody apologized to shirt me at what happened again.
[23:27] It is still happening, not one in the morning, but at 5 am, they are moving equipment.
[23:33] And on the brochures, it's saying that they're not supposed to move any equipment until 7 am, right?
[23:39] Like that was the degree I was 7 to 7.
[23:41] And so that's like one part. Monday. Monday, it's really kicking up. A kid parks his car,
[23:49] crooked in front of my driveway, one of the workers, and his put his boots on at 6.30.
[23:55] And so I tell him to move because I'm gonna get out of my car, you know, go out and get my coffee
[24:01] before I come back at 7. And he goes this way. And I go this way. And I stop to ask one of the workers what's
[24:09] going to go on and he just backs up his car and hits my car. $4,000 worth of damage. So then on
[24:17] Tuesday, they cut the internet. This is all within three days. I'm not even kidding. And then
[24:24] they cut the internet again. And the big reason I got it for cutting the internet is line was
[24:29] marked. But why did we cut it another day? And then I went out? Is that Comcast? Yeah,
[24:37] Xfinity. Then I went out there because there's nobody out. If the engineer is an out there,
[24:45] there's like, I don't know what they're called, Superintendent.
[24:50] The older one, I think is good. The
[24:52] one is a little bit worthless. So I went out there and I said don't cut this
[24:59] cordy in today because I knew they were digging again because they were going to
[25:02] put this paper in the hole now. Now they're going to put some paper that they
[25:06] forgot to put in the hole the first time so they read the holes. So you said well
[25:12] we've been having trouble finding the wires and I go, you laid these wires,
[25:15] they're your wires, so don't cut them again.
[25:20] Okay, so that's, so I'm the crazy
[25:22] Karen on Andrew Lee Lane and the other piece of it is H2 project is going on now while the
[25:31] Andrew Lee Lane project is going on it should have been done before it feels like I'm being
[25:37] trapped by these construction workers and now we get to walk which is fine it's good for me
[25:44] but it's not safe. It's not safe if they're going to move their cars around and stuff in my
[25:50] to walk on the street because they're not looking or am I supposed to walk through people's
[25:55] yards? Like I don't understand that piece because there's a part construction truck that
[26:02] drives around, they're on their phone and then there's a four-wheeler that goes behind them and
[26:07] he's on his phone. Like I'm gonna get hit by somebody. Well, these both these jobs were
[26:14] coincided and like Larry could probably explain this better but because of drainage and utilities
[26:19] and all for it. So I'm sorry they say you're in convenience twice now but that is it made
[26:26] more sense and it's also a little bit more economical and feasible to do them both the same time.
[26:31] It doesn't make a lot of sense if you're the third house into trap me and make me walk
[26:36] through. It doesn't and I live by 70 year olds. I'm like one of the younger ones in the group.
[26:43] Right so now you're making 70 year olds walk all the way and they're not looking when they're
[26:49] her own fast. I told the Matt Oswald, he's the, I said, the only thing you haven't done is
[26:57] kill my dog. I just, like, they're just terrible. And then they were doing the trenches and they dug
[27:03] the first three trenches and they were piling up the dirt right by the hole. And there's that trench
[27:10] that caved in in Rochester. So I was like, they're not supposed to be doing this. I called OSHA,
[27:14] I called you, and after the three holes,
[27:18] they started using the red thing again.
[27:19] They're just trying to like,
[27:21] shortcut anything they can do,
[27:23] make it quick, it just really bad.
[27:27] And I wanna know what I can do to make it better for myself.
[27:33] And I also want to understand, I work in IT.
[27:38] So if the system crashes in our healthcare system,
[27:42] I have to tell them why.
[27:44] I have to tell him why I crashed. I have to tell him what we're going to do in the future to prevent it.
[27:49] I'm not getting any of that. Right? They hit a gas line. Then I was told to stay in my house. They
[27:55] hit a gas line at like quarter to seven one. So what can I do to make it better and what can I
[28:03] can I have more communication like on that site? It's just like we just know they're going to do
[28:09] And now it's just, or as long as they want, they're going to do curbing.
[28:14] Larry, this is kind of trying to, they have updates on the web page.
[28:20] Yes, we provide updates on the website as best we can.
[28:24] They, they were going to do the curbing installation today,
[28:28] but on the informed us this morning that it got delayed to a model.
[28:32] So the curbing will occur tomorrow.
[28:37] It's not your fault. I feel like they bid off more. They can shoot and they just kind of do whatever works for them
[28:42] And we're all flying by the sea of their pants and we're living in their chaos. This is a pretty large construction company
[28:49] They're not just Bob's and builder. They're 2.7 rated on Google
[28:55] And they're driving is one of the worst things that people write about
[28:58] There's only so many things the town actually can do. I mean we can monitor and we can talk to the contractor
[29:05] I mean, not that we can do about, we've had conversations.
[29:11] Well, we have weekly meetings, we have conversations about these things.
[29:15] There are multiple different crews, and I don't know if you noticed the distinction,
[29:20] but there's the utility crew is different.
[29:23] It's not part construction.
[29:24] It's a subcontractor called Perkins.
[29:27] That's who is in the holes?
[29:30] That's who, that's, that they were the worst.
[29:32] That's the excavation company.
[29:34] Like, our construction does all the street work and then the curbing company will be someone
[29:40] else.
[29:41] It will be a different subcontractor.
[29:44] So you're dealing with multiple contractors that one crew didn't know this was there.
[29:51] But, you know, parks should be monitoring that and say, hey, we just hit this thing.
[29:57] It's here and, you know.
[30:00] The T-car construction fall off all that because I was there crew that hit it and they already knew it was there. So, at least the form and did. So, he was very apologetic when that happened.
[30:10] T-K-D-A has a onsite supervisor. Yes, who was that? That's Matt Oswald and Mark Buyers, okay, and I believe Matt's been...
[30:18] I'm on a three-way email. And I was quiet, I've been quiet lately, right? Fair enough. I mean, I just want to know...
[30:28] I would like to know how long this I called my personal hell is going to go on and when they say they're going to do the curbing today, and they just in the morning change your mind
[30:38] I have no idea when this is going to end and if I knew an end date, I could probably like your street was first in the in this project and so
[30:47] It's first to get the curb. It'll be first to get the pavement with the pavement. It'll be
[30:52] likely early next week for the pavement, then they would do dryways, then they would do yards.
[30:59] So the underground work is for the most part complete.
[31:05] And yeah, we're getting there.
[31:07] Okay. And I'm sorry you've had to deal with some of your my punching back, right?
[31:12] Like that's what you are, and that's like probably the worst. No, trust me, we appreciate it.
[31:16] Last year we had the issues. Those things happen, but if you don't bring it to us,
[31:21] and we don't know how to correct them.
[31:23] So we can only correct so many things.
[31:25] I can't help somebody hit your car.
[31:27] I mean, there's nothing we can do about that.
[31:30] Yeah, and you know, the, yeah, that poor kid,
[31:33] you know, I was already mad at them.
[31:35] There's a 1 a.m. wake up.
[31:37] And he got my full rage when that happened, right?
[31:40] Like, that's, that's inexcusable.
[31:43] They can't be all at one in the morning.
[31:44] That's ridiculous.
[31:46] Yeah.
[31:46] Like I said, there's certain things we can address.
[31:48] Okay. And now we've got all your notes here and will.
[31:52] Wasn't three minutes either side apologize.
[31:55] And is Larry responsive to you.
[31:57] Larry's wonderful. And I've read all of you online, too,
[32:00] that everybody loved you at prior late. And then.
[32:03] Thanks.
[32:04] Wow.
[32:05] Because I was looking up all the stuff.
[32:07] Because I pretty much lost my mind over this project.
[32:10] I'm going to be honest.
[32:11] I would move if I live somewhere and this was going to be done again.
[32:15] I would move.
[32:16] All right, we're on it. Thank you. Thank you.
[32:20] All right, anyone else?
[32:29] I need a name and an address.
[32:31] Allerial Brian, 4688, Stotter Lane.
[32:41] So I'm here to talk about the possibility of doing a supplementary
[32:45] supplementary safe measure. Real-world crossing at Thunderville and East Oaks Road
[32:52] just north of Kabboots. So it's very loud. I know isn't everybody's concern.
[32:58] It is extremely loud actually the the boards had conversations about that. Okay, you have okay, great
[33:03] And have you had discussions about the safety measure? No, we haven't that's scheduled for here at the end of the month
[33:09] Oh, okay, so I'm actually just here to ask that you please consider it and give it support
[33:15] Okay, and
[33:17] I do have about
[33:18] Some petitions if you should want them but both a little over 80 households who have sign just giving their support for the
[33:26] quiet zone and in order to get the quiet zone, it has to have this supplemental.
[33:31] What do you mean by quiet?
[33:33] Quiet zone, so you know when they go through north of, when they go through further up the tracks,
[33:38] they don't blow the horn really loudly at the intersection every time because they have
[33:44] a better safety zone around where the road cross the tracks cross the road.
[33:49] So they are a barrier on either side of the process.
[33:56] And I have sitting at a train just yesterday.
[33:59] So that people don't try to rush around them.
[34:02] And especially since Senator Goethe came home,
[34:05] my team is here now.
[34:07] And just this morning, earlier this morning,
[34:10] I hear people racing on it.
[34:12] Yes, all the time.
[34:13] All the time.
[34:14] Right there, too.
[34:15] This is great road.
[34:16] It's a perfect place, I guess, for racing.
[34:17] Especially motorcycles.
[34:21] And so now that they're racing through hopefully an oncoming train, but that will eventually be an issue.
[34:29] You realize most of this though is going to be up to the railroad.
[34:33] We don't have a lot of clout with them.
[34:36] Right.
[34:36] It's not so much the railroad.
[34:37] It's a federal railroad commission that runs in.
[34:40] Right.
[34:42] Yeah.
[34:42] You know what I'm talking about.
[34:43] But we can't request it as private citizens, but you're just a pilot.
[34:47] Yes, that's right.
[34:48] He says with a grin.
[34:50] Oh, you're right. That's that's all it works.
[34:53] That's okay.
[34:53] That's to stop the feds to make.
[34:55] Patrick, is this going to public safety then?
[34:57] No, it's actually in front of you for the executive work session on the 28th.
[35:02] Well, you might as well take the petition.
[35:04] Sure.
[35:05] And so actually, if you, if you've got it with you, I'll take it. Otherwise, you can drop it off at the office in half.
[35:10] Okay, if I give you something, you want coffee's up on me.
[35:15] I'll make coffee as a make sure you get it.
[35:17] Swing them on by.
[35:19] Are we Larry and I met with our two weeks ago?
[35:24] Yeah, I think he liked you.
[35:25] He just about to go.
[35:25] Please twist it.
[35:28] So we got an education that day,
[35:32] and then I'm having fun of our board.
[35:33] All right, so that was really when it came up here.
[35:38] But since I'm up here anyway, but I mentioned this year or two ago, I know it's not that big a project, but in front of our driveway
[35:46] Maybe one year ago somebody
[35:48] We did the surface of start or lane the cul-de-sac all of the water doesn't drain it accumulates in front of our house
[35:58] Every year all summer every winter so we get the call it Anderson Lake Anderson's live there before we did and
[36:06] So, first of all, the tar is completely broken up, because ice, I'll see water sits on it, it stands in fact all the time, but it is a pretty, it's a hazardous zone because it is all ice and it's a hazard because I'm 65 and when I have to, when it's been raining and I have to go from my driveway to my mailbox, I have to leave over it and I'm not that agile.
[36:32] Did you know about this one?
[36:36] Right, don't.
[36:37] I'm trying to force you to.
[36:40] There you'll come visit you.
[36:42] Right?
[36:42] There you'll come visit you.
[36:44] Well, we'll take a look at it for you.
[36:45] Thank you very much.
[36:46] We should.
[36:47] Thank you.
[36:48] Hello.
[36:48] Thank you for having the eye on start at Wayne's Husq.
[36:52] Please come check.
[36:53] Bye.
[36:57] We remember that one.
[36:59] You're welcome.
[37:00] You're welcome.
[37:01] All right anyone else going once going twice right I am going to
[37:09] Ask for a receipt of a gender return supplements. So moved second
[37:13] All fair say I I'm most due in turn at 7.37
[37:18] Second of here we are adjourned