Commissioner Boise here, Commissioner Connolly, Commissioner Cornejo, your Vice Chair Quirk, and Chair Rodriguez.
Here, Commissioner Cornejo, will you lead us in the pledge of allegiance, please?
Sure, please join me.
Mr. Chair, at this time I'd like to request I'd like to move by amending the agenda by moving discussion of item number seven to fall item three.
Do I have a second on that motion?
Second? Okay, let's move forward. Item number seven comes up.
Sorry, all those in favor. Hi. Hi.
Hi. Hi. So I'm gonna at this point I have the request of the
Motion to put this item up front. I'm gonna turn it over to Mr. Quirk as he wants to address
the commission and everybody out in the public.
Thank you chair.
Good evening everybody.
I just wanted to say with respect to the costumers incident,
everyone who knows me knows I'm not a racist.
We've been members of this community for almost 15 years,
while being in bad judgments.
It was not a political excuse me can we let have some order, and again let's have some order
You got to give the residents a note to another. You're going to have your moment in the public comment period, but please
Honestly, honestly, honestly, honestly, we're all independent up here. We're all independent
So I have a little bit respect towards the residents. I have a little bit down next to them.
Let's take a 10 minute.
You got to
wash it?
I'm going to go get out of the house.
You got do you guys who were two
burning your head
right there?
I got to wash it, that's
fucking
eating isn't how we adunned
uh... we're going to go ahead and go
as the agenda
is listed
we're with
Anybody that wants to do public, you know, you're being disrespectful and not allowing, you're being disrespectful, because you're not allowing the public to hear out in the public. Why don't you go in front of the podium and get your three minutes in? Please get your three minutes in. Get, we don't have no authority to vote anybody out. We, they're a point and we're all a point to it. We are all a point to it. Please proceed to the podium and go.
Sir.
Please don't get involved.
You don't care.
You're nothing.
We want you to just split.
Sir.
To be fair.
The folks at home.
Can I hear you?
You're not on the microphone.
We're trying to have some to.
We're trying to have a decorum.
So that people at home can hear you.
If you can't.
You can't.
Sir.
So you're disrupting the meeting, but we want to give you the chance to speak public comment.
However, the folks at home cannot hear you if you're talking over everyone.
So I'm just going to go ahead and read the public comment.
The public is invited to address the planning commission regarding any item of business with the exception of the public hearing items.
Or any matter within the subject body's jurisdiction?
Speakers must limit their comments to three minutes pursuant to state law.
The Commission cannot take action or express a consensus of approval or disapproval on any oral communications which you not appear on the printed agenda.
Can we allow the speaker at the podium to speak?
The teacher, the teacher name and address, and then have you, you have three minutes to
state your testimony.
Yeah.
Can you guys hear me?
You guys can hear me?
Okay.
My name is Tamara Harris.
I'm not providing my address.
I think many of you sitting on this panel here today have forgotten who you serve and who
allowed you the privilege to sit in these chambers.
So let me remind you, the city of Whittier is home to 90,000, 90,000 people, and 66,
0.70% of that population is Hispanic. I know how sick this must make you
Richard. I know being in a room with all these minorities. I know you are just
disgusted. I know you are. But this is the population you serve. If you want to
go back to the good old boys club serving white men, I'm sure since you enjoy
playing dress up so much. You've got some heels you can click together three times to take
your ass to Kansas. Since you enjoy playing dress up so much. The Wittier City Council
website states that you and your colleagues are committed to serving Wittier and listed
under your collective priorities for the city is a transparent and open government with an
on public safety. Crazy. Yet as we demand the resignation of this goofy bitch, Richard
Quark, I see you. I see you Richard. Yeah. For his racist ass social media post, which
we will not forget about.
The mayor of Whittier, as well. The one that the mayor of Whittier
right now all of a sudden that transparency no no now it's
complicity now it's silence we demanded I side of Whittier and instead of
standing with the people and stopping mass vigilante is endangering innocent
civilians in your city you throw $30,000 of our tax money towards some bullshit
to keep us quiet, as if you can put a price on generational trauma, kidnapping, and human trafficking.
Nonetheless, $15,000 of that money is allegedly going to a non-profit called the Hispanic
Outreach Task Force.
Guess who's on their advisory council?
Jolvin, it's Harry, our lovely mayor, our lovely racist neighborhood mayor.
That to me sounds like a conflict of interest, with the mayor of Whittier
fanning the flames by liking a video of Richard Quirk and his husband dressed up
as modern day Nazis, how can we be assured this money will even reach its
intended target?
How can we guarantee transparency when there has been no accountability?
Zero.
None.
Thank you for your time.
No, no, no, I'm not done.
I got 30 seconds.
I'll give you 30 seconds.
Okay.
Days of getting by and doing whatever the fuck you want are over.
The people of this country are wide awake and we see you for who and what you are.
We are watching your every move, and while there may only be 20, 30 people in this room today.
These town halls are being broadcasted live by the people, for the people, and there are thousands of people watching you right now around the country.
Okay?
History will not remember any of you kindly.
Your legacy will be that you've been for need of fascism.
That you sat by while families were torn apart and locked in cages.
That you posted and shared racist ass videos amongst yourselves like the weird creepy old men that you are.
It will be that you stayed quiet in a week ass sentence.
Ma'am, your time is expired.
Next up, public speaker, please.
Thank you.
State your name.
Next speaker, please.
Is
this on?
There it is.
Richard, if you won't forgive this, remove yourself.
We're not we're gonna be at your house at your doorstep bringing this protest your house every council member tonight on this table
I ask you and I warned you guys be here for the residents
I will see you guys at your doorstep as well protesting
I gave you guys opportunity. I shared it with you guys
I'm not messing around change is coming in with you
I'm taking the power of corruption away from you guys and putting the power back into the people enough enough
So either you guys vote for him tonight to remove himself or not sit next to him or you guys are against the people
It's that simple. I'm taking the power away from Joe, have all the bullying he did in
Whittier, enough enough. Your terror is coming to an end. So again, you won't forgive
this. Remove yourself. I don't care how many apologies you could say. You did wrong.
Be a man. Remove yourself. Have a backbone. What you did is unforgivable. Go move. You should even
be moved out of Whittier after what you did. Shame on you. You still have your Trump flags out there
at your lawn. You store, you still haven't hanging up there. You're not sorry for your actions.
You would have removed those if you were sorry. You're, you guys are kidnapping kids.
Cock, would you guys sit next to them? Little kids are being detained away from the families
are flower lady and winter boulevard weather dotter was retained. Hard working Latinos, shame
you guys. Even though you guys don't have power, you would have a backbone. You have a duty.
You swore we just hit the flag you swore no to the flag. Shame on you guys you guys are spitting on every resident tonight
To sit next to him shame on all you guys have a backbone or remove yourself enough enough change is coming to winner
Like it or not again, I haven't met you. I'm gonna give you the same opportunity
Stand with the people or you're against the people the the voice is here the power of the people's here
You guys have never met someone like me you guys are gonna have to kill me if you think I'm gonna
stop you guys went out to my family now it's your time to be hanging down watch you watch
I'm not going to quit shame on you shame on you for all the corruption how you guys sit next to this low like
shame shame on this I just don't want to use profanity but I'm holding back for telling you guys what
I really feel about this it's corrupt it's sad we're at when I animals how could you sit next to them you're in charge
This is your your council, right?
Then what are you doing? Who's council is it?
We're we are planning. Let me remind you we are planning commissioners here to review projects
We are
We are we are we have no power. Yeah,
sir. You're not touched the microphone. Yeah, yeah,
you're time is up
Next speaker please
This is the planning commission and we have to continue this is not their meeting. This is the planning commission of where do you are
I don't care. This is, you know, we'll speak. This is I'm just trying to control. I'm just trying to control the meeting.
All right. I'll tell you what. Well, let's. Next speaker. There's a speaker coming up. Thank you.
Next speaker, please.
Please come to the podium. Please.
My name is Jordan Burgos. I live in Whittier, California,
90602. Mr. Rodriguez, you did bring up an interesting response.
You are here to review projects, projects that will do the betterment of the city,
which are decided upon by planning commissioners without bias.
You cannot say that everybody up there does not have a bias and holds any personal resentment
towards any member of this community.
When it's been said otherwise, everybody standing up there is complicit.
Remember, history will not forget, for those that remain quiet and allow an appointed official that has demonstrated racism to remain in a position that can either cause redlining, which has been done historically in the past by planning commissioners, racist ones.
Everybody understands that plenty commissioners hold a big power, especially in specific plans.
I'm sure Friendly Hills is not one of those that is not beholden to that.
Mr. Quark, be in very familiar with sign code.
How is it that you have an ideological sign posted in your front lawn past the 30 day allowance?
You yourself are breaking a code.
You know that? Are you going to write yourself up?
Okay, you're a big shot.
Use the code against yourself because you stand for it, right?
But you hold the bias.
There you go.
How can anybody make a decision and stand with this person up there,
knowing what he's capable of doing?
You're all complicit in history.
What do you remember?
Shame on all of
you.
Next speaker, please.
Thank you.
Start the clock again.
Thank you.
Richard, why are you here?
I'm glad you finally showed your racist face, but why the fuck are you still sitting there?
You might think we're crazy, you might think we're crazy, but we're here
Because fascism doesn't just come and just just knock on our door one day
It shows up because of people like you because we let it happen
We're not gonna let this happen
It happens because
How do people like Trump come and power?
Because I feel like getting because we fucking let them
I don't want this to happen in my city where I'm going to raise my two daughters.
I'm not going to let this happen.
I'm not going to let people like you run this city.
I saw this on Instagram today.
It says, but I should some didn't just arrive in boots.
It came in bouncy houses and Facebook mom groups.
It told us not to talk about politics at the play date, not to post about injustice because
it's too heavy, not to scare the kids, not to make things awkward.
It claimed the high ground by staying silent, by calling itself neutral, by smiling through genocide and censorship and calling it peace.
Weaponized innocence looks like kindness, but it functions as cover.
It protects power by prioritizing comfort, just like the decorum that you guys demand.
And it silences dissent by labeling truth as rude.
Some people storm the capital, others just voted for the people who did, and then went to target and posted a gratitude list and said, let's just move forward.
But silences and peace, civility is injustice and choosing to ignore the fire doesn't make you pure and makes you a bystander.
If your innocence cost, cost someone else their safety, it isn't innocence, it's complicity.
This isn't about being too emotional.
This is about survival as a nation, and we will not be quiet so that you can stay comfortable.
So we're not going to let you be comfortable, Richard.
We're going to keep coming to every meeting.
Every single meeting on Monday nights.
I'm going to make the time to be here. I had to do a lot to make it tonight. Again.
And the last time you weren't even here.
Well, I'm going to continue coming, whether you're here or not.
We might go to your house, too.
I really don't know what to say to you anymore, because...
I said a lot about the last meeting. I said it online. I said it everywhere. And you finally show up. And now I'm out of words because I'm just so pissed. I'm out of fucking words, Richard. And the rest of you too. I mean, city council, like, do you guys have no hold, no power, no pressure, no nothing. How is it that we put more pressure on city council than you if you do?
So I really, I, I didn't come prepared to say anything except that I'm pissed and, and fuck you.
Next speaker, please.
Next speaker. Go ahead, state your name, please.
Good afternoon. My name is Veronica Garcia, and today I'm going to talk about something that a lot of residents have been talking about today.
So, I called the city and I spoke to a supervisor that from HR that told me that we are a city
that we adopt ordinance as they want.
So, I feel that the council and I feel that this panel here of commissioners do as they want for their financial agenda.
The, the city we are offended by what Mr. Quark didn't his video. He now after how long is saying that he's sorry, but your actions are deeper than that. There's people children that are an accounted for and you sit here. I'm trying to ignore the people like you're better. You're not better. A person that is a racist like you by no means is better.
So, the city said that we are a charter city. Therefore, there is zero expectations of codes of conduct for boards and commissioners.
So, we ask why they do what they do, this is why, because we are a charter city and apparently a planning commissioner can act like a racist and everybody ignores it.
My personal feeling about this is the city is one thing. The mayor is one thing. He may be the top boss and everybody else is probably scared
We're not we will be at your house
It comes to personal values and morals. I think that every person in that panel
You say I don't have the power to vote them. I believe you
I've done my own research and I've done enough reading to know that you guys don't personally have the power to do
so, but would I be in that chair and be a part of this racist board? I would get up and
leave. You know, if you want to behave like this and show that much disrespect to a community,
I'm going to do what is best for me and my morals and my values and walk out.
I have one more
thing.
So again, the council and commissioners do as they want. They adopt ordans like I said to
their financial agenda. Some people in this panel are just discussing, and that's
you Richard. Another very disgusting board member is Yukonli. Look at what a bitch you are.
You just sit there, board to death, no one obligates you to be here. This is a planning commission
that is vital to the city. It's vital to us. There's a lot that you are in charge. But look at
like a disemplated teddy bear just sitting there like lounging. This is not your TV
couch that you're just there. You're here. It's a job. I like you care. You're just playing
disgusting.
Next speaker please. Please. Please. Stay your name and address.
Please.
Hi.
Excuse me. We have a speaker on the podium that we want to respect. No, we want to
Yes, yes.
Can't talk.
Get away from the races.
Okay.
Commissioner, please.
If you would go ahead.
Thank you.
Ma'am.
Thank you.
Hi, Richard.
I would say thank you for showing up and not wasting our time this time.
But with how I think that statement earlier was going to end.
It sounded like you were not resigning.
Am I correct?
Just making that assumption there?
I can never sign.
Okay.
Okay, so if it's true that yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Just we have one speaker.
I'm just paying attention to you.
Okay.
If it's true that you guys really can't vote
amount, I'm disappointed.
Last meeting, I asked you to do whatever you
could to have him removed.
Even if you are delusional enough to
think that because you have friends that know you
better than they say, you're not racist or whatever
excuse you're trying to come up with.
you have to admit that at this point, you are very disconnected from your community, right?
So even if you think for whatever reason you're not, what you did wasn't awful and very racist
and super disgusting, it doesn't represent the people of Whittier and now it's gotten to a point
where you should not represent us at all, right?
So as an appointed official, this is your opportunity
to take a look around and say,
OK, I'm no longer representing my community.
It's time for me to step down.
So that's all we're asking of you.
And once again, if any of you guys can do anything,
please stand up for the residents and get this guy out of here.
We really need to do better.
Thank you.
Next speaker please.
Please teach your name and your address please.
Thank you.
Magdalena Mo.
Good evening, planning commissioners, members of the city council and fellow residents of Whittier.
I stand here today.
I came last week, but Richard Kirk, you were not here.
So this message is for you.
And I want to read it loud and clear.
And I hope that you listen.
I stand before you today deeply disturbed by the recent actions of planning commissioner Richard Kirk.
His social media posts depicting him and his partner in costumes, mocking criminal aliens and
ICE agents, are not only deeply offensive but also demonstrate a profound lack of judgment and
sensitivity.
How dare you?
Especially right now when we are experiencing turmoil and we're all the whole Latino- or
today I call the city council or I call this city office to find out what are the rules regarding
the way you're supposed to act all the commissioners and what your city council do you know that
you don't have any they're they said there was none so I don't believe that the city has transparency
because they don't if there was transparency you would have rules the way you're supposed to behave
But being a racist bigot is not good for the community.
You're a rest there.
Every single one of you works.
You forget one thing.
You all work for the community.
You work for the city for the people of Wittier.
We don't work for you.
You work for us.
And we cannot have racist bigots making important decisions in our community that are going to affect every single one of us.
And that's exactly what's going on.
So in my opinion, you need to step down or be removed and you certainly have to have high
criteria or some kind of criteria for you to be up there.
I've said for a long time that the city that we, the residents of the city of Whittier
are completely controlled by our mayor, our city council, and our city attorney.
You cannot get on a commission unless you are well-liked by the mayor and the council.
Even if you're not standing person, even if you love your community and you do good work, even if you're on different boards and people know that you do good work, you will not be selected.
So, as far as I'm concerned, you know, the fact that you're being complicit and you're not doing anything is really an embarrassment to the whole community.
I'm really ashamed. Anyways, I know that you guys do good work. I just need you to, you do good work.
When you make good decisions because I've seen you make good decisions, but this is a bad decision to have Mr. Kirk on this commission.
He's got to be removed. We cannot have a bigot basis on our commission.
It's, you know, where the community is not going to put up with it anymore.
So thank you very much for your time and remember if you're silent and you're complicit.
Next speaker, please.
Any speakers on the queue on the online, then? Leslie?
Chair Rodriguez, I do not have any speakers on the queue raising their hand to speak at this time.
This will close a public comment period and we will move on to public hearings.
We're going to move on to item five, public hearings starting with five A and if staff has a presentation, please move forward on the presentation, please.
Just thank you. As Eduardo Rengkel, the planning technician gets prepared for his presentation.
I'll go ahead and read this into the record. Item five is a public hearing. Anyone interested matters scheduled for public hearing. They speak for three minutes at the time of the hearing.
The applicant and the appellant will have up to 20 minutes to present their case and up to an additional 10 minutes to make rebuttal comments at the conclusion of the public hearing.
If you challenge any part of the proposed action in court, you may be limited to raising only those issues you or someone else raised during the public hearing.
Again, item 5A before you is a request to upgrade and existing Type 41, Bear and Wine Alcohol License to Type 47 on Sale General, ABC Alcohol License with extended hours of operation, extended hours of live entertainment and modification to the floor plan of an existing restaurant, building, doing business as the mission square, with an outdoor courtyard.
Conditional Use Permit Number CEP25-002, the applicable address is 1-3033 Penn Street,
Sweet 100, and the assessors identification number is 8139-0330010.
Again, the recommendation is to adopt the Attach Resolution, approving Conditional Use Permit
Number CEP25-002 with Conditions of Approval.
I think I've sufficiently introduced your item at Wardo. I think you may be able to proceed at this point. Thank you very much
We won't take a break if this disruption you're being disrespectful for the applicants that came here in good faith
You're being disrespectful for everybody that's watching and
You know what I'm gonna take a five minute break again. Thank you
to make it ten minutes
Recoording in progress.
Okay, we're back in reconvening the meaning of the planning commission. And I think we were at the point where staff was about to get presentation on item 5A. Thank you.
Thank you.
Good evening commissioners and members of the public. The following presentation review, conditional use permit 25-002.
The subject site is located at 13033 Penstreet, suite number 100, and in the Uptown Whittier
Specific Plan General District.
The applicant is David Durkin with affordable additions incorporated on behalf of the
business operator of Fredo Felix.
The part of the site, I'll line in the red above, is located at the corner of Penstreet
and Bright Avenue.
The part of the site is a local historical landmark known as a standard oil building,
In 9353 square foot building, 420 square feet is occupied by the interior dining of the
mission square, and approximately 995 square feet of outdoor area.
Decided to round the by existing commercial uses to the north, south, east and west, residential
properties are also located in the north and east of the site.
The applicant is requesting approval to upgrade an existing Type-41 Buren wine alcohol license to a Type-47 on cell-general alcohol license of an existing restaurant with hours of live entertainment and modification to the floor plan layout of an existing restaurant.
Staff has determined the project to be categorically exempt from SQL, first, go 1, class 1, existing facilities at the California Environmental Quality Act.
pursuant to the Uptown Wittier Specific Plan, Section 4.3.2, Table 4-1,
allow land uses and perimeter requirements for the Uptown Zones.
Alcoholic beverage cells require to be ancillary to a rush on use and must be permitted
to a conditional use permit. A bar slash tavern that does not have a rush on use is strictly prohibited
by the Uptown Wittier Specific Plan.
The following slides will summarize the project sites
progression in regards to the city's actions associated with the restaurant use.
The first recent modification to the subject-side land use occurred on November 6, 2000,
when the zoning administrator approved one-dismay use permit number C97-01.
Call the order, please. Can we have a call to order, please?
We don't want to take any more recesses. We just want to get through this presentation, please.
call to order please or we'll have to take another break we want we want
order so that we can continue with these applicants it's not fair to the
applicants of the disruption you're being disruptive to the public
I ask one
more time please if you can kindly lower your voice so that we can get through
this public hearing you're being unfair to the public at large I don't think
people on the TV are going to want to hear this they want to hear the applicant
and the presentation please
you have two courses of action chair you can either
commence with the noise it's occurring or you could take another break so if
Eduardo or you can you pick it up again or you want to you want to
want to continue okay see we're gonna we're gonna plow through it
the first
recent modification to the subject side land use occurred on November 6 2000
When the zoning administrator approved,
Commissioner used permit number C-97, 0-1,
modic fations to allow an existing rush on
doing business as a math decor yard
to allow extended hours of operation under a type 41 license.
The hours were a Monday through Sunday, 630 to 1 a.m.
For the city's business license records,
Samantha's courty are continuing operating with an active business license
until December 2003.
In September 2011, 80 years after Samantha Cordyard departure, a business license was approved
to allow the current tenant the mission square to continue the existing restaurant operation
under the approved CUP's 97-01 and CUP-19-010.
The next major modification occurred on September 3, 2019, which resulted in the Plenty Commission
are proving CUP-19-0010 to extend the hours of operation for most of the uptown existing
eating and drinking establishments including the mission square, the approval of CUP-19-0010.
Do you think the pause real quick hang on us, of course?
So if we can have another call to order please, you're being disruptive and you're actually
violating the Brown Act and being disruptive to a governmental process here with the planning
commission reviewing the case. Please, if you can allow the staff to conduct the business
of the day and continue.
Let's just proud through it again.
All right. Sorry about that.
The approval. See you.
MP-19, that is 0-10, modified the hours of operation for the following days.
Thursday to Saturdays and select holidays, 6 a.m. to 2 a.m.
On April 14, 2015, the applicant David Durkin on behalf of the business operator of Fredo Felix,
submitted conditional use permit, number CUP-25, that is 0-002.
To allow the rush on to offer general alcohol cells from on-site consumption on the Type-47 ABC license,
and modify the hours of live entertainment.
The applicant also requests interior tenant improvements to convert the storage area into
ADA compliant restrooms, add two new bars and modify the existing floor plan to extend
the dining area.
From the time of the approved conditional use permit, number C-97, dash 0-1, to the submittal
all conditional use permit, number C-U-P-25, dash 0-0-0-2, the existing rush on,
doing business as the mission square, at acquired in the J.C.
I'm sorry.
An adjoining tenant space for me known as Lisa's Bell Salon.
The request for this condition I use permit number CUP 25.002 is to convert the acquired
8.1825 square foot tenant space into an extended dining area.
The photo shown the existing exterior side conditions.
The site can be assessed through the primary entrance funding pensured.
The following slides depict the buildings interior where the major modifications to the
dining area lay out, as shown on attachment F sheet T 1.0.
Two new bars will be added to the restaurant, one new ADA restroom, which will be converted
from a storage room and no exterior changes to the local landmark are being proposed.
As portrayed on the floor plan, shown on attachment F, sheet A1.0, CUP25-002 is requesting
additional live entertainment, alcohol service stations and incorporating the extended dining
area for reserve dining or additional overflowing dining area.
The applicant will be required to obtain approval for their proposed tenant improvements
from the city's building and safety division.
The floor plan consists of the following main areas, 700 square feet main dining area, 325 square feet
private dining area, 1,825 square feet extended dining area, 1,175 square feet for restrooms,
storage and kitchen area, 2,335 square feet for courtyard area, 840 square feet for open
patio and 230 square feet for covered patio.
Please note that the red sections are the new constructions.
The restaurant will continue to operate in the interior dining space and the outdoor cord
yard for individual patrons and small groups.
larger parties will have an option for reserve private dining spaces.
Under the original conditional use permit number C97-01, amplified music would cease at 10 p.m.
and live a mystical music by 11pm.
CUP 25.002 requests to expand the live entertainment packages and allow DJs,
mariachi's and live performances to see an hour before closing.
All live entertainment is limited to the extended dining area and outdoor courtyard area,
within the allotted 30 square foot stage area.
Additionally, the primary use of a banquet hall is prohibited at the subject's location,
further uptown waders specific plan.
Currently the census track 15.04, containing the subject side, is considered over-concentrated
by ABC with three on cell licenses, Type 41 and 47.
Allow it in the census track, but 59 existing and operating.
The Type 47 on-so-general ABC license requested will not change the total number of alcohol
outlet, as it were placed the existing Type 41 license.
Census track 15.0 for includes the majority of uptown's active dining and live entertainment.
Staff would like to address that there have been no public comment at this time relating to this project.
Staff recommends that the planning commission adopt the tax resolution,
approving condition use permit number CUP25-002, with conditions of approval.
Staff and applicant are available to answer any questions.
Thank you.
Thank you for the presentation.
Commissioner Cornel. How do you have any questions?
Just a quick question. Are there any modifications to the hours for music?
Yes.
Can we have some order please one more time please. Thank you.
If you look at the condition 10 feet, you'll think that the life of the team is
stop at least one hour part of closing. The previous U.P. and Stive Entertainment
to 10 p.m. called this U.P. and then more towards 12 p.m. or 1 a.m.
the U.S.
That okay. Thank you. No further questions.
Come on, Sheriff Colleen.
I don't have any questions. It's tough at this time.
Shoulder, boys eat? No questions. Thank you for the presentation.
Nice chair court. No questions, thank you.
Thank you at this moment. I'll I'll I'll ask if the applicants have anything to respond on any questions regarding the entertainment or anything else to say about the restaurant
Okay, at this point we'll open
We will open
At this point we'll open it up to the public hearing if you have any comments on this project please step forward and state your name and if we can have caught a order
there is somebody at the podium to state a comment. Please state your name. Thank you.
Magdalena Mo.
Good evening, city planning commission. My friend's Tommy Maggie, and I'm here to
support Fred. And I'm here because Fred supports the entire community. I don't know if you know this,
but I've lived in the city of footier my entire life. I was raised in Murphy Ranch and we often
go to Uptown, Whittier, and the mission in is a beautiful, beautiful place. It is historical.
It has beautiful brick work. It has, it's just lovely. And it's a great gathering place
for our community. We often go there for baby showers, for weddings, for rotary meetings,
meetings to honor the community. And it's really just a special place. So I'm here to support
because like I said he has a beautiful place. I often see him outside with his staff.
He's always cleaning, he maintains that place and
Maculant. He supports our nonprofits in the city of Wittier.
And if he supports my community, I support him.
So I'm here tonight to ask that you support Fred with his license.
He certainly deserves it.
I hope that they keep the water, the little water fall,
because it's not a waterfall, but it's a water fountain
because it is gorgeous.
Anyways, we need more places like the mission
and it's a great place to go on Friday out to dinner.
The food is wonderful.
The ambiance is lovely and on Fridays.
You could go and listen to music.
And it's just a great place for our community
and our neighbors to go to.
So I just wanted to stand here tonight
to support Fred.
He really is a great supporter of our community.
And I wish all business owners were like him.
He's just a really a wonderful person, thank you.
Anybody else for this public hearing?
In the audience, do we have anybody in the queue?
Chair, we do not have anyone in the queue
raising their hand to speak on this item.
Seeing that there's nobody else on the queue.
Do we need a motion to close the public hearing?
Second.
We have a motion and a second to close the public hearing.
We'll move on to commissioner discussions on the project.
We'll start with the Commissioner Cornel.
No further comments, I'm happy to move the item.
Commissioner Cornel?
No further comments.
I'm happy to second if Cornel has ready to move already or give other commissioners their
opportunity.
Commissioner Bores.
Ready to call for the vote.
Commissioner Vice Chair.
Great call for the vote.
I actually want to say that your food is awesome.
I love your Italian food, it's the best in town.
I we love your place and I will support you the whole way.
So I'm looking forward to your enhanced interior remodel.
So yeah, thank you.
So with that, can we have a roll call on the book?
Yeah.
And we had a motion.
Second is the second.
Okay, wonderful.
So there's a motion a second to approve a resolution
of the planning commission, approving conditional use
permit for CUP-25002, and should we have commissioner
Yes, Commissioner Borsy. Yes. Commissioner Connelly. Yes, Commissioner Cornejo. Yes, Vice Chair Quirk. Yes, and Chair Rodriguez. Yes, motion carries.
Chair. I don't. Would you like me to introduce item five B. Yes, because there's special circumstances from what I got there with there are in regards to five B. We received 11 page letter from an attorney late this afternoon in regards to the site and they brought up a couple of points that we.
believe need to be further evaluated and may require some efforts by some professionals
to prepare some reports that would be informational items back before you. So while we're going to
go ahead and hold the staff presentation tonight and also give the applicant an opportunity to address
you, we anticipate that need for a continuance of this item and we would likely want to continue
to a date certain September 15th but because we did notice it tonight and we want to give both the
applicant and any members of the public that may be interested in commenting on the item.
The opportunity to do so we will go ahead and commence with it but again we won't be asking
you to take an action tonight but rather continuing it to a date certain and again at this point in
time that looks like September 15th and if Rosemary has anything to add to that please do so.
which are sensitive involves the same parties for five B and five C if the commission is comfortable hearing the presentation and from staff and if you wanted to combine motion together.
I think at this point because of the similarity of five B and five C and the same issues that are raised.
It would the commission has the option if you wanted to make one motion as to both items.
And also the public hearing as to one public hearing for both.
You can come back if you wanted to make sure that you can have them identify which one they're speaking on if it's not as to both.
Correct.
Okay.
I would like to do that.
So let's continue with the staff presentation on both of these projects.
Yes.
Crystal O'Royo assistant planner.
Are we making that presentation?
And I can introduce the item crystal unless you're ready to go now.
Okay.
Very good.
Good evening.
Hello.
Good evening commissioners and members of the public.
This evening, we'll be discussing development review,
project number DRP22-0110 and variance number VAR25-002.
The subject address is 16260 over a crest drive.
The site is located at a vacant lot identified as a lot 56.
I'm sorry, 57.
The subject site is located in the H.R. Hillside Resident Roseone, joining us tonight as the
architect David Key and with DK designs, staff, can we allow staff to speak on the, at least give us
a presentation, please. Thank you, call the order. And again, reminder, put the Brown Act you're
violating the Brown Act by interfering with a public proceeding on this matter.
Staff would like to note the applicant has submitted two applications for the projects located
side by side.
Both items will be presented this evening, beginning with the project on lot 57, case number
DRP-22-0110, and variance number VAR-25-002.
The request is to construct a new three-story single-family residence with an attached two-car garage.
The project also includes a finished basement.
The variance, VAR-25-002, is requesting deviations from the Wittier Municipal Code,
development standards to allow an increase dwelling high while the proposed home will be presented
as a two-story elevation measured from 30 feet 11 inches viewed from over a crest drive.
The overall height measured from the highest point of the roof to the lowest adjacent grade is 41 feet
10 inches.
They increase high it will be visible.
The total per postgar footage exceeds a allowable, lower area ratio in the single family zone.
The project is categorically exempt from the environmental review process, pursuant to section 15303 class 3, new construction or conversions of small structures of the California environmental quality act.
The project site is located within a gate of community and known as Friendly Hills of
States, with a single family home, with one water reservoir lot.
The subject property is identified as vacant law 57, a year number 8291-041-023.
Due to the significantly sloped topography, the shallow rectangular shape of the parcel,
The site has constraints that significantly restrict the construction of the single-family dwelling.
The architect designs to step down the steep slope to the rear,
following the contour of the hillside which is consistent with the neighborhood pattern.
An aerial image illustrates that although the request height of 41 feet is significant,
the home will be contoured into the hillside.
Surrounding properties are two to three stories in height and the over height of the proposed
structure will not be visible or have a noticeable impact on the properties located below.
Attached or images taken from a rural crest drive, the site of the proposed construction
is to illustrate that there is no distinct architectural style in the surrounding neighborhood.
The existing homes are oversized in scale.
Therefore, the proposed dwelling will be consistent
with the overhaul neighborhood character.
These are also images from a rare crash.
Declating, showing the height that it is
two-story visible from a rare crash.
And then also, as you can see,
the rear does kind of tailored to three-story,
which the applicant is requesting.
The
image before you is the site showing the ground floor as viewed from a rural crest.
Highlighted in purple is a driveway which features brake papers integrated with landscape strips,
or painting areas, creating a decorative and visually appearing a pilling surface.
Highlighted in green is the proposed front-near landscape design to complement the perry style architecture.
The landscape will comply with the requirement to maintain 60% of the front yard landscape
area.
Highlighted and red is a 2D touch garage which will include interior storage space.
Highlighted and blue is a ground floor interior lot which includes a four-year living room,
dining room and kitchen.
An interior staircase will provide access to both second floor.
and the basement located below.
The imagery for you is the second floor plan.
The second floor will house all the bedrooms.
Two of the bedrooms will feature a walk-in closet
with an on-suite bathroom, which showers.
The floor will also include a master retreat bedroom
with spacious walk-in closet and a private bathroom,
an office and a balcony to enjoy the view.
The finished basement will include a family room and rush rooms for providing a convenient
access to the pool that's located at the lower level.
The vacant lot is 10,830 feet in that's calculated at gross, calculated from the center
line of their lower crest, drive which is a private street.
The net is 8,880 square feet, and that's taken from the parcel map.
Here's a breakdown of the finished square footage.
The finished basement is 2,164 square feet.
The ground floor is 2828 square feet, and the second floor is 2,496 square feet.
bringing a total to 7,488 which divided by the lot brings a total of 69 percent FAR.
While staff has been working with the architect, the design of the two stories,
single-family residents, consideration was given to the fact that the home will sit side-by-side.
Although there's no distinct architectural style,
still, established in the neighborhood, staff felt that the Prairie style will complement the existing
neighborhood pattern. Features will include composite wood planks, stacked stone, wood
siding finishes, low-pitch hip roofs, wide-eaves, edifice size, horizontal lines, and front
porch wood square columns.
The features will include composite wood planks, stacked stone,
wide-Eve overhangs, wood planks to emphasize or holds on aligns, the front porch will have a
score porch columns.
This image before you is an inspiration that features the
peri architectural style, which it will be carried over to the proposed dwelling.
Based on the
letters, staff received this afternoon from matrix oil corporation, which has been distributed to
the staff recommends that the Planning Commission continue this item to September 15, 2025,
meeting to allow time to receive and review additional technical reports.
This concludes
staff's presentation. The applicant and architect will be available to answer any questions.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Harrow. You did a good job.
No worries. Are there any questions of staff from my fellow commissioners?
I don't know, I don't know if I'm just bored of it.
Yes, just real quick.
On the flora area ratio, I thought I heard you say it increase of 69%.
And staff report that I'm looking at on page four indicates 80%.
Is that what's the difference?
And I'm sorry that's the for a lot of 57
so you're looking at pages that's just page 4 of 8
Oh this one shows that every hour at 77 this one the architect did you know me a revised
with a corrected breakdown of this work footage. So this line is actually going to be what
staff presented in the. So what have been 69 percent? It's going to be 69. And what's
the other one? The one that's shown in the plans is showing that it's 77 percent. 69.
So is it 69% increase on both of them?
No, this is just for a lot, 57.
I still have a presentation.
Okay.
And on the rear lot, it says approximately 10 feet.
Why is that approximate?
So it shouldn't be approximate.
I will go ahead and defer that to the applicant. We'll work on getting that corrected.
It's going to be 10 feet from the property line.
Okay. So this is a box in that specific zone as 10 feet.
Thank you.
I'm sorry. Was there a question?
Vice Chair Quirk, do you have a question on the project?
No, just if when we come back for the continuance, if we can come back with other properties
have similar variances, I do have that information that
That's the fact that there are properties that are working on a work process that do you see the worry for?
Okay. If we have as part of the presentation.
We'll also have the architect fix the, the final, how can revise the finds that they actually email me this morning?
Yeah. My only comment was on the, on the rear property line.
If they could include a sketch of what that fence line would look like, as well, because the pool is right up against the property line.
And so my other question is, is the pool, does it have to abide by the setback as well?
It's a structure.
So I don't expect an answer to know, but I went on the continuum.
Maybe we can come back and agree.
The architect did provide a cross section of the...
I did see the cross section, but it's only the side of the house.
And the elevation only covers the portion of the house,
not the extent of the wall or the fence, yeah.
OK, so it shouldn't fit.
I just want to see how it looks, you know,
with the relationships with the fence.
OK, that's all I have.
Thank you.
I do.
OK, well, at this point, you're actually
welcome to come in with what you're doing now in response.
So if you have any responses to any comments or questions,
please do so.
And please take your name for the record.
My name is David K.
I'm the one who David K. Design Collaborative Studio.
I'm an architect, licensed in 35, 833.
I guess approximate in the words here is not approximate.
It's definitely 10 feet.
So I don't know if my plans indicate that is should.
I don't think I use an approximate for any of these setbacks
on the dimensions in our architectural plans, so that can be a typo, the pool is a little
step back from the, from the proper rear property line,
just to answer those questions.
I don't know if there's any other questions I was in over here.
Any questions of the applicant, Commissioner Cornel, okay?
Commissioner Cornel?
Sorry about that.
Okay, at this point we'll open up the public hearing for this project and take any testimony that anybody would want to come up to the podium or on the cue.
And being that that said do we not take public hearing for the other projects and said did not get presented yet or can we that's that was a confusion.
Since staff did a presentation just on Lot 57, we'll proceed with Lot 57 currently, go through the whole item as a separate item and then we'll hear from staff on.
Okay. So we're opening up the public hearing for this particular house right now.
Mr. applicant, if you can sit take a seat and allow anybody to come up for a public comment. Thank you.
So at this point we'll take public testimony from the public in the audience regarding this this item on the with the project.
Thank you.
Stay turning, please.
I just don't understand how there's so many people
of color appointed to these positions.
When you have a very visible racist on your committee
and then you don't even stand up for your own people
to remove a very visible racist.
What is wrong with you?
It's disgusting, it's shameful.
I'm over here by the way, Ivan.
Hello?
Excuse me, can we just address?
No, that's okay.
Yeah.
I saw a widier.
That is our number one priority right now.
Nothing else is more important than that right now in widier.
People are being disappeared.
Families are being separated.
They're brutally being kidnapped.
It's disgusting.
And I'm pretty sure at least one of y'all have seen a video on social media that how can
you watch that and still stand here, complicit.
Disgusting and shameful.
You know that your comments have nothing at a widier.
Richard out of the plethora your comment are going to be castle because there's nothing particular about your comments regarding this project
Anybody else for this project in the audience
Okay anybody in the queue
Don't want in the queue raising their hand
Okay
At this point where there's no decision be made, so there's not going to be any consideration
So can I hear a motion to continue its core is it the 19th of August?
September 15th.
We would want a motion.
We have a motion for 9.15, can I have a motion for 9.15, please, continue to continue.
We have a motion and a second, do we have a vote?
Commissioner Borsy. Yes. Commissioner Connelly. Yes. Commissioner Cornejo. Yes. Vice Chair Quirk. Yes. Chair Rodriguez. Yes.
Motion carries to continue the item to September 15. Okay.
And next item is five. Please. Yes. Item five. See before you is again a property next door to the one you just heard.
And there are many similarities. So Crystal will provide you a brief presentation on that item.
And then the recommendation would be similar to the first in that we recommend that you consider it today.
And open the public hearing and pertaining to the applicant and any other people that may want to speak in regards to the project.
And then continue it to a date certain not being September 15th, where we can provide you some additional information regarding the project.
Would that crystal a royal? Please go ahead and do the presentation.
So, this property, as Ben mentioned, is done by the same architect and the R side by side.
This one is going to be a lot of 56, also in the HR Hill side residential zone.
Let's see.
We'll go ahead and move over to the request.
The applicant is requesting to construct a three-story single-family residence within a touch garage.
The project also includes a basement.
Variants request for VAR25-001 is requesting deviations from the Whittier Municipal
Development Standards to allow the increase in the dwelling height.
While the proposed home will present as a two-story elevation measured at 30 feet, 11 inches,
when viewed from over a crest stripe, the overall height measured from the highest point of the roof
to the lowest adjacent grade is 41% 10 inches. This increase, the increase in height will be
visible from the distance to the surrounding neighbors at the rear. This morning the applicant requested
to amend variance number 25-001 to include deviations from the Whittier Municipal Code to order
the increase the maximum allowable for every ratio to 40 percent to 65 percent. Staffs would
also like to clarify that the public noticed distributed for this project did reference the
request for both height and as they are. However, following the mailing of the notice,
the architect revised the plans to convert the basement into an ADU and junior ADU, which are exempt
from the law coverage and FDR calculations.
Following staff's presentation,
the applicant will provide additional information regarding
the variance request.
This project is categorically examined
from the environmental process,
pursuing two sections, one, five, three,
zero, three, class three, new constructions,
or conversions of small structures,
The project site is located within a gate of community known as
Spirinley Hills of States.
I identified as law 56.
I identified AINN number 8291-341-22, same as the previous
slot, do the significantly slow topography. There are some site constraints for the construction,
so the architect did design the property to contour the hillside, which will be consistent
with the neighbor as you can see here in this picture as well, where they also have basement,
But I've seen from the work across it is 30 feet, which is the allowable maximum height in the HR zone.
Again, this area, aerial image, although the request and height of 41 feet is significant.
Again, the house will be constructed to contour the hillside due to it being significantly slow.
And there are consistent within that area, two to three stories, so the new development will be consistent with the neighborhood.
Let's see, so again, along over a crest, these are neighboring homes that do appear 30 feet, which is the allowable max height, and then again from the rear.
They do, as they continue down, follow the great slope.
The image before you, again, is, is mirroring the same as a lot of 57 showing the ground floor,
where you have the, again, highlighted in purple is going to feature the driveway featuring
the brick pavers with some landscape strips planted to create more of a visual
pilling surface. Highlighting green is going to be highlighting the 60% landscape and then
also in red is showing the two car garage with the storage and then in blue is going to be
the proposed floor plan, which will include the 4-year
building dining room and kitchen.
The interior staircase that will provide access to the second floor
as well as the finished basement.
The second floor is also going to be housing
the bedrooms two of the bedrooms will feature a walking closet
Again, with an honestly, with the bathroom, the floor will also include the master bedroom,
master bath, bucket closet and an office and then this one, it also features the balcony as well.
So again, this site shows the basement that was going to be converted to the ADU in
you need to do but per the applicants request this morning is for it to be a finished basement
showing the dining space and then also access to the pool that would also be on the same level.
This one is going to be the square footage breakdown for a lot of 56.
This one again is what the architect provided me which will reflect when we meet again on September 15.
and that's also including the applicants request
for the increase in the floor area ratio.
Again, while staff was working with the architect,
we felt that although the properties are side by side,
both the prairie architecture using different materials,
offset in colors, both felt that it would be compatible
for the neighborhood given that there's not an established
neighborhood architecture in that in that area.
Again, in the building materials, it will consist
of composite wood planks in color Spanish walnut, which would be this darker. So the property
next door is going to feature more of the lighter cover. Colors, this lot is going to feature
a lot of the darker colors, like with a stone, more of a gray color of the rift tile, and then
Also, the wood planks are going to be a little bit more lighter, that's going to complement the stockstone.
Again, the inspiration for the architecture is going to be a prairie style.
While I was driving in that neighborhood, again, there's not one specific neighborhood architectural design.
So given the massing, the articulation, staff did come to a conclusion with the architect that the prairie style would be
compatible with that neighborhood, given the bridge building materials.
So again, staff recommends based on the letter that we received for us to continue the
site to September 15th to allow time to receive and review the additional technical reports.
As of now, we're asking for September 15th.
There's a concludes task presentation.
then the applicant and architect are available
to answer any question.
Any questions of staff commissioner, Cornell?
No questions.
Any questions, Mr. Koley? Mr. Wardsey?
Just a couple.
The architect in this package submitted the floor area ratio
of area buildings that were surrounded by it.
And I was just wondering, did we verify any of those?
for the variance request?
Yeah, you're very, okay, because on the 15th
for both the flora area ratio and the height,
if you could get, if you can get some information
in regards to the neighborhood,
how much, and how many people have exceeded
and where are out, that would be helpful.
That would be a longer, a lower crest that do exceed.
And there, one is 41%, 47, and then one is 70%.
Yeah, just because my concern is, you know,
once, a lot of times when you do variances,
that becomes the rule. And once you offer it for someone, you need to offer it for others.
So I just want to be careful about our actions. Thank you.
Questions? Vice Chair? No. At this point, we'll invite the applicant to come up and respond to
the bill. I'm going to answer questions. Yeah, on this one. And Ma'am, right after he's able to
you'll have the opportunity to speak. So if you would at mind the applicant gets to speak first, and then you'll have an opportunity.
I understand, but there's still a procedure. Thank you. Go ahead, sir.
Correct. This is for five C. Five. Thank you, sir. Please proceed.
Any responses to the comments you've heard, and then if there's any questions, my all means be.
Hello? Yeah. Yeah, it works.
So go ahead proceed. If there's any responses for any comments that. Okay. I'm also hoping the ADUJDUB
the last resort for me to add some square footage. It's going to be the same similar variance
request as lock 57.
I'm not quite sure about the other question that he was asking. So,
you're asking something about the other neighborhoods. We did a research on the other
neighborhoods with FAR. Just along that street on the sides, I had indicated, I only went as far
research in ten neighborhoods and they are exceeded FAR up to 70 percent and that's
pointed out I think in page
I may that's part of attachment D yeah it's on
better and that's an exhibit attached behind it correct David is that they're
one the referentive yes it's after attachment D and that could go ahead and tell
which act that information provided it's an exhibits and that's fine I got this
title. And, by the way, these are immigrants moving into this community. They plan to bring
their businesses along to the community with you. They love the community and they
wish to live here.
Okay, any further questions from fellow commissioners?
Not a blab, but can't thank you.
It's calling? At this time. Mr. Boisey? Mr. Quirk?
Nope. Okay. Again, at this time, I'm looking for a motion for continuance, same as before,
And then a second as well.
And before you do that, I do believe you want to take comments on the public because generally.
So you're not one person or this.
For this second project, we are opening it up for a public hearing.
So it has to pertain to this project.
Please state your name and proceed.
My name is Richard Resign.
Let's start here.
We're sitting here, watching you guys go over Lot 62 and talk about our
a sexual prairie style roof tile, dark aesthetic, a three-story family home.
You think families are going to want to live here with him sitting like?
I know that some of you are like, my hands are tired, I can't do anything, I can't, yeah, you can.
You also have a voice. You also have your own brain. You also have your own ideology and your own sentiment.
And you're still deciding to sit there and allow for him to be present
amongst the group of people who also don't want in here.
Hold on, I'll go back to talking about your structure.
It's just so that we're on the same page, right?
Two car garage.
It's so crazy because in the video regularly,
we pretty much see ice vehicles all over the place.
When we talk about garages, usually for us we have to fear looking in them, letting our families go into them. It's kind of crazy how we're just talking about a random building, a random family home that doesn't fucking matter right now.
Well, matters right now is the protection of our people, and obviously there's like none. Project management, and I get that you guys are all part of that. What are you guys doing for the community that's being affected for the race?
I'm sorry, how is this relatable to this project and because we're talking about families and if this is being made for a family.
But yet we're allowing for other families to be destroyed. Why would this even be made?
What future does will your hold for future families and generations to come if we're allowing for, you know, I'm sorry, but this is not relevant to the project. There's a purpose for these reviews. So thank you very much for your time. Thank you.
Chair Rodriguez, we do have one speaker in the queue that is raising their hand to speak at this time.
Okay. All enable their microphone. Thank you.
Christian is really in. If you can please unmute your microphone and state your comments for
for the commission.
Hi, did you think everyone?
Um, if everyone's doing great. Sorry, I jumped on late.
So this is called sweating and to comment on the other one, but I'll
limit my comments to five C. Um,
invariance is generally I'm a little bit concerned that the city is relying
more on variances than actually amending the code.
When we keep relying on variances, there's a clear problem with the zoning code.
The zoning code is not applicable to the people, the applicants that are submitting their applications.
And they want, I don't know what this applicant wants, they want an increase in FAR, whatever it is.
But we should take another look at the zoning code if we keep getting variants applications.
And my second point is, variances have a very, very, very strict legal standard.
You can't just be willing, nearly, approving variances.
You can ask city council on that question.
There's a very specific standards called undue hardship.
I don't want to get into nitty gritty with this specific applicant about if they qualify for a variance or not.
But you know, I'm of the opinion that we should be allowing people to build what they want to build on their property.
And that includes if you want to expand a little bit on your property, have more people living your house.
So be it. That's your own property. That's all I have to say.
Thank you.
Anybody else in the queue?
Right, there are no additional speakers in the queue.
OK, anybody else in the public for this project to speak on?
Seeing none, I moved to close the public hearing,
and looking for a motion for the continuance and the second.
All move for a continuance?
Two a certain date?
Two, September 15th, 2025.
What she said?
A motion the second to continue DRP-22.
Let's see it's 0109 and VAR-25001 to September 15th, 2025.
And that's Commissioner Borsy.
Yeah, we're doing a roll call.
Yes.
All right.
Vote.
Commissioner Connolly?
Yes.
Commissioner Cornet Hill? Yes. Vice Chair Quirk? Yes. And Chair Rodriguez? Yes. Okay.
It's continued to September 15th, 2025.
At this point, we're going to move on to Secretary
comments. Very briefly. PAH went to design review board a couple of last few weeks and we'll
be coming your way in several months. That's a large medical office building about 105,000 square feet
are on Washington, on vacant land, that P.I.E.
Jones.
So that's coming your direction.
We'll also have short-term rentals before you,
at some point in the coming months.
And I did want to commend Eduardo and Crystal for doing a good job tonight.
I made the difficulty.
I think it was at Eduardo's first presentation before you.
So what a first to have before you tonight.
But thank you for your patience, everyone.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Ben.
At this point, we'll do an item number seven, commissioner comments, conference reports, and we will start with commissioner.
We're already took item seven at the top of the meeting.
We did. Okay, so we're not going to address that anymore.
adjournment.
We adjourned. Okay.
At this meeting at this moment, we're going to go ahead and adjourn the meeting. Thank you.