1 00:00:04,030 --> 00:00:31,730 Good evening. As President of the Board of Trustees of the Wichita Falls Independent School District, I hear about call to order this meeting of the Board of Trustees. Let the record reflect that a quorum of the Board is present that the meeting has been duly called and notice that the meeting has been posted for the time and in the manner required by law. We are pleased that you have taken the time tonight to join us this evening. Thank you for your interest in the Wichita Falls Independent School District. Please be sure that all cell phones are turned to silent or vibrate mode are off. 2 00:00:31,730 --> 00:00:38,280 Okay, at this time we'll call the meeting to order at 530, Ms. Horton. 3 00:00:39,580 --> 00:00:41,360 Good afternoon, everybody. 4 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,400 Okay, I'm here to present to you our first writing. 5 00:00:48,580 --> 00:00:51,100 This is a required public hearing that we have to have. 6 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,920 And what is first, it is your financial integrity writing system of Texas. 7 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,920 It ensures that Texas Public Schools are held accountable for the quality 8 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:07,120 of their financial management practices and that they improve these practices. The system 9 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,400 is designed to encourage Texas Public Schools to better manage their financial resources 10 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,600 to provide the maximum allocation possible for direct instructional purposes. 11 00:01:16,940 --> 00:01:26,140 And so for the 2526 school year based upon your 2425 financial data we received to be which 12 00:01:26,140 --> 00:01:27,540 is a bug-seater achievement. 13 00:01:30,150 --> 00:01:32,970 So I'm going to take you through real quick the indicators. 14 00:01:33,690 --> 00:01:39,270 Instead of doing an indicator per slide, I thought this was easier just to kind of get a look at 15 00:01:39,270 --> 00:01:46,410 them. The AFR, that is your annual financial report and the data that we have at the end of the 16 00:01:46,410 --> 00:01:52,010 fiscal year gets submitted to TEA through our auditors. And so we got full points on that. 17 00:01:52,010 --> 00:01:58,570 the auditors issued an unmodified opinion on our audit, so we got full points on 18 00:01:58,570 --> 00:02:04,710 that. The district was in compliance with all debt agreements. We made our 19 00:02:04,710 --> 00:02:10,270 timely payments to the IRS, Tiras, etc. The district had a positive net 20 00:02:10,270 --> 00:02:17,470 position indicator 625% or less change in fund balance and we received full 21 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:24,690 points on that. We were able to cover our operating expenditures. We were able to cover 22 00:02:24,690 --> 00:02:31,810 our short-term debt and the general fund revenues equal or exceed expenditures. That means 23 00:02:31,810 --> 00:02:38,630 that we ended the fiscal year with a positive fund balance, a positive net income, I guess 24 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:44,410 you could say. We added a fund balance for the 2425 fiscal year. So did these all make 25 00:02:44,410 --> 00:02:51,850 since. All right, now it also just want to point out five, seven, eight, not all 26 00:02:51,850 --> 00:02:58,030 relate to year in positive outcomes. Okay, that means that as a district, even 27 00:02:58,030 --> 00:03:03,270 though we ran a deficit budget at one point, we ended the year and we were able 28 00:03:03,270 --> 00:03:06,910 to add to fund ballots. I'm kind of surprised the number six that our 29 00:03:06,910 --> 00:03:13,990 fund balance was did not change more than 25% because you grew it so much. That was 30 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:19,370 that first year since then we've probably added 3 to 5 million and whenever you 31 00:03:19,370 --> 00:03:24,070 start talking 55 million it's not within the 25 percent so we've stayed 32 00:03:24,070 --> 00:03:27,730 within the thresholds we've gotten full points on that one. Yeah we've got a 33 00:03:27,730 --> 00:03:35,330 change 15 per year okay so the next set of indicators oh just so you know 34 00:03:35,330 --> 00:03:39,010 indicator 10 I'll discuss a little bit later because that was new this 35 00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:43,670 fiscal year and that's what got us. Okay, so number 11, assets, 36 00:03:43,950 --> 00:03:48,810 salivities to support long-term solvency. We received full points on that. 37 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:53,870 Future debt requirements to districts assess property value. We received eight 38 00:03:53,870 --> 00:03:59,170 of the ten points. That's where we've lost two points and that just has to do 39 00:03:59,170 --> 00:04:08,150 with our property values are $5.4 billion and we in that fiscal year had 294 40 00:04:08,150 --> 00:04:13,430 million dollars in long-term liabilities which would be your the house schools any kind of debt we have 41 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:23,890 okay and so the mathematical breakdown that to EA calculated for that we were at 4.64 and once 42 00:04:23,890 --> 00:04:30,430 we get to the 4 or lower or less than 4 we'll get the full 10 points. So as we pay down our debt and 43 00:04:30,430 --> 00:04:35,450 if we don't add to any debt we're paying it down then we'll actually have a better mathematical 44 00:04:35,450 --> 00:04:41,010 medical calculation. So maybe next year, maybe in a couple of years we should get four points on that. 45 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:43,930 So we gave up some points to do what we needed to do. 46 00:04:44,030 --> 00:04:44,130 Yes. 47 00:04:47,190 --> 00:04:49,530 13 was removed for this fiscal year. 48 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:55,790 14 total enrollment to total staff ratio as our enrollment has gone down. 49 00:04:55,930 --> 00:05:00,650 So has the total number of staff so our ratio we have received four points on that. 50 00:05:00,650 --> 00:05:21,410 Our pupil projections to TEA, when Dr. Lee came, we both sat down and reviewed them and we actually go with what TEA recommends for us so we don't make any suggestions or changes to that so we accept what TEA provides for us and they pay us from that or they fund us from that. 51 00:05:21,410 --> 00:05:22,890 Number 16. 52 00:05:23,450 --> 00:05:26,970 Peans made your data comparison to the annual financial report. 53 00:05:27,210 --> 00:05:29,350 That means that we got full points on that. 54 00:05:29,750 --> 00:05:34,430 And our mid-year PIMS data match, what was in our annual financial report from our extra 55 00:05:34,430 --> 00:05:35,010 launchers. 56 00:05:36,050 --> 00:05:37,270 Okay, number 17. 57 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:40,330 Our AFR was free of material weaknesses. 58 00:05:41,450 --> 00:05:41,950 18. 59 00:05:42,170 --> 00:05:45,810 Our AFR was free of material non-compliance for grants. 60 00:05:46,530 --> 00:05:49,950 the district made the required postings on the district 61 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:57,010 website the board meets and holds a public hearing and a 62 00:05:57,010 --> 00:06:01,970 adoption meeting in June and 21 the district did not need 63 00:06:01,970 --> 00:06:06,070 a repayment schedule for over allocation which means we 64 00:06:06,070 --> 00:06:10,050 weren't overpaid and had to pay it back. We didn't have a due to 65 00:06:10,050 --> 00:06:17,950 state. Okay so do you have any questions on those? Okay all right so the first 66 00:06:17,950 --> 00:06:24,510 indicator number 10 it has not been used by the state for over 10 years I think 67 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:29,230 I was able to look back it was I think 12 or 13 years ago they actually had 68 00:06:29,230 --> 00:06:34,490 this indicator in place. It says the school district average less than a 10 69 00:06:34,490 --> 00:06:38,330 percent variance when comparing budgeted revenues to actual revenues for the 70 00:06:38,330 --> 00:06:43,210 last three fiscal years. We received zero points on this because we were over the 10% variance 71 00:06:43,210 --> 00:06:49,670 for the three-year average. So the reasons for this or the explanation or the while behind 72 00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:56,550 it. We are a July 1 start, so when we are building our budget and we're building our revenue side 73 00:06:56,550 --> 00:07:03,390 of it, we are looking at enrollment and ADA in May of the fiscal year that we are in projecting 74 00:07:03,390 --> 00:07:09,030 for the next year. We do the best we can and we try to be as conservative as 75 00:07:09,030 --> 00:07:16,490 possible as to not have a due to state. The three years that were reviewed in 76 00:07:16,490 --> 00:07:21,990 this calculation were the 22-23 which was the year that Dr. Lee and myself 77 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:26,310 started and the budget had already been approved before we were here so that 78 00:07:26,310 --> 00:07:32,550 was the year that had an 18% variance and it was it's kind of a done deal. 79 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:38,890 we really couldn't adjust it. The 2324 and the 2425 and those were the three 80 00:07:38,890 --> 00:07:42,230 years that were being evaluated in the average. 81 00:07:44,350 --> 00:07:45,770 The Certified Property 82 00:07:45,770 --> 00:07:52,370 Values, they come in at the end of July. Your home set exemption changes, I did 83 00:07:52,370 --> 00:08:00,110 some more research on this one. In 2022, your home set exemption was 40,000 and 84 00:08:00,110 --> 00:08:07,690 In 23 it jumped to 100,000, and 24 it stayed 100,000, and then in 25 it moved up to 140,000. 85 00:08:08,510 --> 00:08:14,070 And just from the change of the 100,000 to 140,000 between the 24 and the 25th school year, 86 00:08:15,150 --> 00:08:21,830 we had a $264 million loss in taxable value just for W of I state. 87 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:26,310 That's not including the county and everyone else, just the change in that home set exemption. 88 00:08:26,310 --> 00:08:32,530 These go into play based upon Syneville's or the voter election that took place in November 89 00:08:32,530 --> 00:08:34,770 which you can anticipate in May. 90 00:08:36,330 --> 00:08:44,150 In the 2223 school year there was one regular session and four called sessions for the 91 00:08:44,150 --> 00:08:50,470 legislature and then in the 2425 there was the regular session and two called sessions and 92 00:08:50,470 --> 00:08:52,470 a lot of changes went into place for funding. 93 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:58,670 There were 161 school districts that got hit with this one indicator. 94 00:09:00,310 --> 00:09:02,490 161 out of common in 2018. 95 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,880 So with the declining enrollment in the ADA, we've tried to be very conservative. 96 00:09:12,340 --> 00:09:17,060 We've tried to make it where we, as in district, did not have a due to state. 97 00:09:17,220 --> 00:09:20,700 We've always, the last three years, have actually had to do from state. 98 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:27,120 and we've done our LP reductions in January and February after the semester won 99 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:32,040 attendance so that way we know what we're dealing with we send in an LP 100 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:38,280 reduction to TEA they accept it and then we base our funding off of that. I will 101 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:44,980 say for the 2627 school year TEA is now getting our ADA every six weeks so they 102 00:09:44,980 --> 00:09:52,000 will adjust their payments to us. So we should, there should not be a lot of due to states 103 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,940 due from states for the entire public education. Just because they're now accepting all of 104 00:09:57,940 --> 00:10:02,160 our payments data every six weeks, and they're adjusting our foundation payments because 105 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:02,500 of it. 106 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:10,240 So is this, would we say that this is, we got zero because we were conservative and did not 107 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,100 want to be paying back to the state. 108 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,000 And they're going to punish us by giving us a zero because we 109 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,860 wanted to be conserved, basically conserved. 110 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,040 We could have been closer. 111 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:28,360 But when you're building the budget in May and June, 112 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,680 and you don't know what's going to happen in November, 113 00:10:31,060 --> 00:10:32,680 you don't know what's going to happen with the legislature. 114 00:10:34,620 --> 00:10:36,340 Did you just admit it earlier? 115 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:36,960 I'm sorry. 116 00:10:37,620 --> 00:10:38,080 It did. 117 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:45,820 Hey, now what makes up the 260 was it 264 when we went from the home set 118 00:10:45,820 --> 00:10:55,100 exemption of 100,000 to 140,000 and the district lost $264 million in taxable 119 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:59,800 value. So where do we get make that? So when that drops the state is 120 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,140 supposed to come back in and backfill the revenue for us through the foundation 121 00:11:04,940 --> 00:11:10,680 They do, they do, and you don't have questions on this. 122 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:15,140 When Lee and I sat down and we built into this, we didn't know that that indicator wasn't 123 00:11:15,140 --> 00:11:15,520 played. 124 00:11:16,740 --> 00:11:20,700 So, you know, we sat down and we're like, we're going to be super conservative and we'd 125 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:22,220 rather have money come back. 126 00:11:22,460 --> 00:11:22,600 Right. 127 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,320 And so, never did we say, yeah, and that's what this board says, hey, we'd rather have that. 128 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,300 But this indicator hadn't been in here for a dozen years. 129 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:37,120 And so we said we're going to be super conservative on what we're going to bring in, and we're going 130 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,340 to be pretty liberal on the expenses, and we can no longer do that. 131 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:44,840 But I think the TA did come back on those every six weeks, and that's the reason that 132 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,220 they did that, because they do not want any more of the state paying them in to the districts. 133 00:11:49,220 --> 00:11:53,060 They're putting every six weeks, and I'm looking forward to assessment on your finances, 134 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:59,220 which is fine, but it would have been nice to know that a couple of years ago, this is coming 135 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,700 And they rolled it out and then pulled it back last year. 136 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,620 They were going to do this last year a little bit. 137 00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:08,920 We found out in the 24-25 and they got so much pushback 138 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,720 that they didn't, that they didn't enact it, 139 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,980 that they enacted it this year. 140 00:12:12,300 --> 00:12:15,860 Which we got, because in 22-23, that variance was so right, 141 00:12:15,860 --> 00:12:16,420 anyway. 142 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:18,560 So you couldn't have that one. 143 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:22,620 But they just don't want to owe us money at the end of the year. 144 00:12:22,660 --> 00:12:23,600 It's hard to budget for that. 145 00:12:23,860 --> 00:12:24,000 Yes. 146 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,040 At that level. 147 00:12:25,580 --> 00:12:27,060 And where is the last one? 148 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:32,520 and there's a separate one so I'm sure the legislature comes down on the Elm and says why are you 149 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:39,520 needing more money and it's to pay out to school districts. What I find this is where I have an 150 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:45,560 issue with this indicator it would be different if they would evaluate it through the school year but 151 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:51,320 they're looking at our original budget adoption what our original revenues are in comparing it to year 152 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:57,020 in what we've received. It doesn't take into consideration that throughout the year we 153 00:12:57,020 --> 00:13:02,660 do budget revisions. We evaluate, we look at our semester one attendance and we either 154 00:13:02,660 --> 00:13:07,820 adjust up or we adjust down and it does not take into consideration. You're essentially 155 00:13:07,820 --> 00:13:13,300 looking at a May or June number and comparing it to the following September, not just three 156 00:13:13,300 --> 00:13:17,980 or four months, but a year and three or four months. Just to say, this is what you budgeted 157 00:13:17,980 --> 00:13:20,260 and this is what you received and there's a variance. 158 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,720 Well, yes, there has been. 159 00:13:22,580 --> 00:13:25,240 But we adjust our budget as we go through. 160 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:27,860 And then whenever you look at the end of the year budget, 161 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,000 we're maybe $1 or $2 million off 162 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,620 because we have to close out June 30th, 163 00:13:33,620 --> 00:13:36,280 and then the final piece numbers go in in July 164 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,080 and then we get our final payout in September. 165 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,140 Well, yeah, I know that you're disappointed 166 00:13:43,140 --> 00:13:44,360 in getting the speed. 167 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:51,600 And but I want you to know that speaking hopefully for the board that we appreciate everything 168 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,640 you've done and this is not on you. 169 00:13:54,100 --> 00:14:03,180 This is something that I'm just saying that I know that you strive to make that pay every year. 170 00:14:03,940 --> 00:14:09,080 And we just feel like that this is not on you. 171 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:16,140 this is something that the state is moving to Gold Coast once again and so 172 00:14:16,140 --> 00:14:23,420 anyway we understand. One thing I've learned that we're gonna try to do is if 173 00:14:23,420 --> 00:14:28,880 we can bring you budget revisions in October they may not be the best but we're 174 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,720 gonna try to match what TDA is paying us off of and at least hopefully get that 175 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:39,060 fall pains when it is the snapshot of October the last Friday of October that 176 00:14:39,060 --> 00:14:42,240 that's the number that they're comparing to so we're going to try to move up our 177 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,580 adjustments from January, February to hopefully October, November and get them in 178 00:14:46,580 --> 00:14:51,780 there so we can maybe get this one cleared out next year if we get that 22-23 179 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:59,000 year-old and then one more thing I was going to show you just so you kind of have 180 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,980 All right. 181 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:27,480 What we deal with, what you're looking at is the initial foundation school payment, the beginning of the year, so July, they kind of start giving us what they're going to pay us on. And then there's the final foundation payment. This is all from TEA summary of finance. And if you see how negative 10% and 23% that's the variance is that they even have just in their payment program through us. 182 00:15:33,870 --> 00:15:39,850 So let me go what Miss Kampson, I know we're all, we all want the best of the A grade. 183 00:15:40,750 --> 00:15:42,570 The B is nothing bad. 184 00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:49,810 And the reasons that they cost it were rational. 185 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:55,330 I mean, it's not rational, I mean it's a little irrational, yes, it means you. 186 00:15:55,950 --> 00:15:58,530 Well, I mean, the decisions that we made locally. 187 00:15:59,130 --> 00:15:59,470 Oh, yeah. 188 00:16:01,910 --> 00:16:03,030 So I 189 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:11,360 don't see, we are not in a problem like so many other districts, and it's because of 190 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:16,760 why 100 million dollars we have done that, we are not facing those kinds of questions 191 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:22,800 that other districts have, because you all have taken such an effort with this. 192 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,700 So like Miss Camp said, let's be happy and we can defend that. 193 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:35,340 Well, we'll shoot for the 8 next time, but yes, if this indicator had not come in and 13 194 00:16:35,340 --> 00:16:38,960 had stayed in kind of like last year, we'd have been at a 98, which would have been the 195 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:39,220 hospital. 196 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,280 So, wow. 197 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:42,900 Yeah, this is frustrating. 198 00:16:43,940 --> 00:16:47,280 They changed the rule in the middle of the game, part of the adjust for that. 199 00:16:47,940 --> 00:16:50,320 Do you all need to explain anything else, 200 00:16:52,430 --> 00:16:56,130 questions about any of it, if you need more data 201 00:16:56,130 --> 00:16:57,110 I can get it? 202 00:16:59,780 --> 00:17:00,220 I'm good. 203 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:07,060 I think a beat sounds just fine, because I know we have a fun balance, a healthy, fun balance 204 00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:08,580 in the budget. 205 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,000 How are you going to build it? 206 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:13,480 Paying our bills and doing an operate. 207 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,660 Everyone else says we appreciate what you've done. 208 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,300 We appreciate you too. 209 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:18,620 Absolutely. 210 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:19,440 Thank you. 211 00:17:19,540 --> 00:17:19,920 Thank you. 212 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:20,800 Thank you for your work. 213 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:21,440 Thank you so much. 214 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,560 The thing that you really didn't want this job, we sure glad that you took it. 215 00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:30,160 You're on your own like public, do you have any comments? 216 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:30,900 I do not. 217 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:35,360 We can adjourn this meeting. 218 00:17:35,460 --> 00:17:38,000 I might have a few weeks or five minutes.