1 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Join me in our Lord's Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance, please. Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever. Amen. 2 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:18,980 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 3 00:01:18,980 --> 00:01:20,380 I don't know. 4 00:01:20,380 --> 00:01:30,820 Oh, maybe I'll let you know. I'd like to call the meeting to order dated September the 8th. Juanita, if you would take the role, please. 5 00:01:30,820 --> 00:01:42,340 Councilman Blankenship here. Councilwoman Decker, Councilman Mowles. Councilman Murphy. Councilman. Prophet. Councilman Williams. 6 00:01:42,340 --> 00:02:10,050 Thank you. So, Council. Everyone received a copy of the meeting minutes from our last council meeting. Um, are there any questions or concerns? Okay. Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion that we accept those meeting minutes. We have a motion. We have a second. All in favor. Signify by saying aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? All right. Motion carried. 7 00:02:10,050 --> 00:02:36,250 Um, we had an invited guest this evening. I don't know, Joshua Baker. Oh, there you are. I'm sorry. I was looking for you so I could introduce myself and. But I'm so glad you're here. We gave the meeting a few minutes before we got started, so, um, Joshua had requested some time on our agenda to make an introduction. He is a candidate for Kentucky State Senate district 24. Correct, Joshua. All right. 8 00:02:36,250 --> 00:03:27,430 Will you have the floor? S5: 9 00:03:27,430 --> 00:04:54,950 A way to say this. I want to bring back accountability. I want to bring back transparency. I want to make sure that our government in Frankfort is taking us first and foremost, and not large corporations for Toyota. Duke energy, I think it's time we have a representation. Uh, so I think we should be funding our health care and our education first and foremost, before we're giving large 50 year tax rates to data centers for any other tax incentives we have currently on the books as well. I support private economic development after we the people, are taking care of us. In a final, final remark, I just want to say I'm running proudly in Kentucky because I think Kentuckians. We have the potential to be the best state. I think we truly have our best days ahead of us. I think we can all be working together to really make this state flourish. Uh, and I've said this multiple times. At the end of the day, everyone in this room, what happens if a tree falls on your neighbor's house? We all, uh, and that's at the end of the day, what I think unites all of us in this audience together. But I won't take up anyone else's time. And if you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to the campaign. It does go straight to my personal phone, for better or worse. Uh, I will leave some. I have some business cards for y'all to take a look at if you want. Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. 10 00:04:54,950 --> 00:05:03,830 Oh, you're more than welcome. Did you want to take any questions in case there might be? I normally give them that opportunity. 11 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:06,630 Um, any questions or comments for our guest speaker. 12 00:05:06,630 --> 00:05:09,950 Are you running against Shelley? 13 00:05:09,950 --> 00:05:11,670 Sorry, Shelley. 14 00:05:11,670 --> 00:05:13,790 Yes. Okay. 15 00:05:13,790 --> 00:05:23,830 Uh, I cover so we cover all of Kimble County, all of Townsend, all of Bracken, and just a single precinct of Covington right across the lake. Okay. 16 00:05:23,830 --> 00:05:27,310 Any other questions? Comments? 17 00:05:27,310 --> 00:05:28,710 So you said the silence. 18 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:36,430 Oh, wait, did I see. Did I see a hand somewhere in the back? All right. No. All right. Well, thank you so much, Joshua. Yes. 19 00:05:36,430 --> 00:05:37,270 You can go. 20 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:38,110 Yep. 21 00:05:38,110 --> 00:05:49,190 If you guys want to take one pass down, let me know if I do have more in my car. I just never know how much people do and don't want my literature and how much will end up in the trash. So I try to try to minimize the stuff I have. 22 00:05:49,190 --> 00:05:56,540 Thank you. Oh, okay. Thank you. All right. Well, thank you so much for spending the spending some time with us this evening. 23 00:05:56,540 --> 00:05:58,860 Thank you guys so much. Thank you. Thanks, Jim. 24 00:05:58,860 --> 00:06:01,500 Thank you. Okay. All right. 25 00:06:01,500 --> 00:06:02,740 Take one. Pass it down. 26 00:06:02,740 --> 00:06:57,280 So we do have a very full agenda this evening. I want to keep my opening comments brief, but I always make it a point when the newsletter is distributed to remind everyone that the newsletter has been distributed for the month of September and October. They were actually hand delivered, um, courtesy of Public Works and also a number of our volunteers. So once again, I'd like to thank, um, Holly Fuhrman, Ruth Cassel, um, Rick and Mary and her sister Karen, um, Greg Adams and then, um, yours truly and her husband also made the rounds. Um, but so if anyone needs a copy of it, we have it down here at the city building. Um, if you want to look at it online, it's available on Facebook. I try to make a point that they got delivered to the different buildings at the condo. 27 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:02,560 Did that work better? S7: 28 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:09,040 They were instructed specifically to take them in sixes and drop them off by the mailboxes. 29 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,520 Okay, okay. 30 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,480 What a way to pin them down. 31 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:27,640 Or whether it should be a rubber banded bundle of six and relayed by the mailbox. They should stay there. I will figure it out. It's all right. I mean, we just, like so many hours. It wasn't even that many hours ago. We had this conversation, so it's not like we'll figure it out. 32 00:07:27,640 --> 00:08:11,740 Yep. Okay. Well, okay. Okay. Good, good. Um, also, we have an exciting promotion on the agenda this evening and, um, let me see what else we, uh, so tonight's meeting is going to be very involved in the first conversation around the tax ordinance. So that is an extremely important role for City Council based on Kentucky statute. So that is to ensure that we're in compliance for the first reading. So with that I'm going to open it up to any citizens remarks. Hi Lucas. Come on forward. And, um hey, Lucas, while you're here, if you want to introduce yourself because you are a candidate for council. Good. 33 00:08:11,740 --> 00:08:45,200 Hi, everyone. My name is Luke Glaser. I live on Three Mile Road. My wife, Victoria, and I want to introduce myself today as a candidate for city Council. Um, I've been a Greater Cincinnati resident all my life, all 33 years. I've been a Campbell County resident for about ten years and a resident for about four. Um, I hope to continue Wilder's tradition of good financial sense and good budgeting, um, as well as hope to introduce some fresh perspectives. Um, so I thank you for all your time and, um, and for the opportunity to run for councilor. Thank you. 34 00:08:45,200 --> 00:09:03,200 Great. Thank you. Lucas. All right. So with that, any other residents have a comment? All right. So, um, do we want to go straight to the promotion? Um, just out of respect for everyone's time. 35 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:03,440 And the. 36 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,000 Appointment and the appointment. 37 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,560 To the executive orders. Yeah. 38 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:25,280 Okay. All right. So, um, in the best interest of time, and out of respect for everyone, we are going to move to the promotion firefighter promotion to paramedic. And, um. 39 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:37,680 So I have, uh, executive order number 26-0902, an executive order promoting Jacob Nichols to the position of firefighter paramedic for the Water Fire department. 40 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:38,080 That's not. 41 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:46,390 Order. All right. Wonderful. So. Doug, I don't think we need to swear him in or anything. 42 00:09:46,390 --> 00:09:48,030 I think you already took the oath, right? 43 00:09:48,030 --> 00:10:08,310 Yep, yep. So congratulations. Let me tell you something. He graduated from paramedic school at Saint E's, and literally the next day took the test and passed it with flying colors. So congratulations, Jacob. 44 00:10:08,310 --> 00:10:17,950 So, Jacob, we want to get some pictures. Yes. On your boss. 45 00:10:17,950 --> 00:10:25,390 So, Jacob, we want to get some photos with your family and the chief. 46 00:10:25,390 --> 00:10:26,590 And without the attorney. 47 00:10:26,590 --> 00:10:35,990 And without the attorney or. 48 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:37,510 What have you. 49 00:10:37,510 --> 00:10:40,890 One, two. 50 00:10:40,890 --> 00:10:46,090 Perfect. Jake, do you want to get in? She's hiding her face. 51 00:10:46,090 --> 00:10:46,770 She's prettier. 52 00:10:46,770 --> 00:10:51,370 Than you. 53 00:10:51,370 --> 00:11:01,450 Thank you. Congratulations. 54 00:11:01,450 --> 00:11:01,890 Thanks. 55 00:11:01,890 --> 00:11:08,890 Thanks for coming, guys. Supporting your teammate. 56 00:11:08,890 --> 00:11:15,130 Yes. All right. 57 00:11:15,130 --> 00:11:19,970 So next on the agenda. 58 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:29,490 Um, we have the appointment of Mickey Collins to. 59 00:11:29,490 --> 00:11:33,370 The police officer. So, Mickey, I think you are going to be sworn in again. 60 00:11:33,370 --> 00:11:33,690 I think. 61 00:11:33,690 --> 00:11:35,250 So. Yes you are. 62 00:11:35,250 --> 00:12:29,390 Just raise your right hand. Say I do afterwards. I do solemnly swear that I support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the Commonwealth, and be and will be faithful and true to the Commonwealth of Kentucky, so long as I continue a citizen thereof, and I will faithfully execute to the best of my ability the office of Police Officer for the City of Wilder, according to law, and I do further solemnly swear that since the adoption of the present Constitution, I, being a citizen of this state, have not fought a duel with deadly weapons within this state, nor have I sent or accepted a challenge to fight a duel with deadly weapons. Nor have I acted as a second in carrying a challenge, nor aided or assisted any person thus defending. So help me God. I will endeavor to the best of my ability to detect and prosecute all gamblers and others violating the laws against gaming. All right. Congratulations. Thank you. 63 00:12:29,390 --> 00:12:30,870 Thank you. You're welcome. 64 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:31,270 He cleans. 65 00:12:31,270 --> 00:12:31,470 Up. 66 00:12:31,470 --> 00:12:33,070 Nice. 67 00:12:33,070 --> 00:12:33,750 Oops. 68 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:35,970 Pictures. 69 00:12:35,970 --> 00:12:39,610 Going to. 70 00:12:39,610 --> 00:12:48,850 Retire? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. We're very lucky. 71 00:12:48,850 --> 00:12:51,810 Retirement is not for everybody. 72 00:12:51,810 --> 00:13:01,770 No it's not. I get it. 73 00:13:01,770 --> 00:13:03,370 What do you mean? S1: 74 00:13:03,370 --> 00:13:04,690 Welcome back. 75 00:13:04,690 --> 00:13:06,010 Thank you. 76 00:13:06,010 --> 00:13:07,650 Oh, yeah. 77 00:13:07,650 --> 00:13:12,570 Boss. Gotta get the boss up here. 78 00:13:12,570 --> 00:13:13,130 As soon as he. 79 00:13:13,130 --> 00:13:14,050 Learns his streets. 80 00:13:14,050 --> 00:13:16,770 We'll get him on F2. 81 00:13:16,770 --> 00:13:17,130 Make sure. 82 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:20,610 He passes. 83 00:13:20,610 --> 00:13:26,290 Oversight on that. Yeah. 84 00:13:26,290 --> 00:13:32,610 You. 85 00:13:32,610 --> 00:13:34,360 Got me. Thank you. 86 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,120 Yeah, yeah. 87 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,720 Yeah. Are you out of here? Yeah. 88 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,000 Okay. Those are two now. 89 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Thank you. That's awesome. 90 00:13:43,520 --> 00:14:02,200 Anything else you want to do next before the taxes go straight to taxes then, right? Oh, no. The police policy. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. Okay, now you can go back in order. Thank you. 91 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:24,560 Next, I have ordinance number 26-0901. An ordinance amending and adding additional policies to the Police Department policy and procedures manual amending policy number 61, License Plate readers and adding new policy number 62, Golden Green alert and policy number 63, Amber alert. 92 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,680 Who wants to take this one? Chad. 93 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:49,660 This was the four year reaccreditation we just went through. Uh, we had had policies in place on the Amber alerts and the Golden alerts. Kentucky League of Cities just decided it was time to do a stand alone policy on the procedures for this. So we just adopted them to get caught up for the Re-accreditation. 94 00:14:49,660 --> 00:14:52,980 What is the I know what the golden and amber is. 95 00:14:52,980 --> 00:14:55,220 What's the green? S10: 96 00:14:55,220 --> 00:15:07,460 Okay. And the license plate reader, just to be clear, we had a longer time frame on the audit, and Chad suggested that we shrink that to. The only change to that was, is I think they're audited now when Chad. 97 00:15:07,460 --> 00:15:08,140 Every 30 days. 98 00:15:08,140 --> 00:15:22,860 Every 30 days, I think we had a longer we didn't expect we had 12 months before. So we figured that we needed to add that. So. 99 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:28,500 A motion we accept ordinance number 26-0901. 100 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:37,960 Okay. We have a motion. We have a second as this is an ordinance. One if you would do the roll vote, please. Council. 101 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,240 Councilman. Blankenship. 102 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:39,600 Yes. 103 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:45,400 Councilwoman. Decker. Councilman. Moles. Yes. Councilman. Murphy. Yes. Councilman. Prophet. 104 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,560 Yes. 105 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:52,000 Thank you. Motion carried. 106 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,200 Next, I have ordinance number 26-0902. 107 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:38,700 The first reading of an ordinance levying an ad valorem tax rate for the year of 2026 on all property, real and personal, in the City of Water, Kentucky. Setting the waste collection recycling rate for 2027 on properties receiving curb side collection, levying and valorem tax rate on motor vehicles for 2026 in the City of Water, Kentucky, establishing the rates there for and adopting the Campbell County Tax Commissioners assessment on said property and providing for a tax lien against all taxable property in the City of Water, Kentucky to secure the payment of said taxes. 108 00:16:38,700 --> 00:18:11,890 Do you all have the memo that breaks down the last year's revenues? This year's projected revenues based on three different tax rates. The current rate, which you cannot do without a public hearing. The comp plus for which you have to have a public hearing on. And the Comp rate without the plus four. You can adopt outright. You can adopt the comp plus four rate like today, and have the public hearing between the first and second readings. You don't have to have the public hearing before, but we would have to have our council meeting on the 28th, not the 21st, because there is a two week advertising period and the meeting can't the public hearing or the council wouldn't be able to happen seven before less than seven days, or more than ten days after the last publication. So that puts us beyond the 21st. You can have any time that week, I guess, but that's not normally our schedule. So, um, if you choose to take the if you take anything above 0.216, if you take 217218219, doesn't matter anything above 216, you have to have a public hearing. If you go as far as 2 to 4, you can take that rate. You have to have the public hearing. If you were to adopt the 231 from last year, you would have to have a public hearing and that rate would be subject to recall by the voters. If they got a petition together and got it on the ballot and voted to recall, we'd have to refund the money. So I wouldn't recommend to do that. 109 00:18:11,890 --> 00:18:24,690 I'm sorry to interrupt here, but I was reminded by Jennifer. Yes. Please make sure you have your mics on. They are green and they're brought forward. Um, so that they can pick up the audio. 110 00:18:24,690 --> 00:18:42,710 You're about a minute too late. I already did my speech. I'm not going to do it all over again. I think you all heard me. If you didn't hear me, I'll repeat it. But, uh. Yeah, that's, uh, those are the those are the options you have. You have options to take anything less than 216. Although I would highly. 111 00:18:42,710 --> 00:20:23,030 Be against that because if you look at the revenues that we're producing, the 216 barely brings in what we budgeted, which is 1,000,001. And if you take the 4 or 5 eight for the tangible, that's 311 and we're best at 331. So on both of those, we're going to be short. And I remember when the mayor did the annual report just recently, some council members commented that why were we so low on tangibles? Well, we were low on tangibles because, you remember, last year's tangible was projected to be like nine something. And we took a lower tangible. That's why I also sent out in that email that every time you take something less than you're allowed, it affects the previous year, the next year's rate, because one of the questions on the formula that it asks is, what did you bring in last year and what were you expected to bring in last year? So because of that, everything you do is fluid. It always is changing. So if you take the comp rate, it will affect those numbers. And as I pointed out, the Fisher development, which is on IRBs, while they're paying 100% of the tax revenue to the city through pilot payments, they are not calculated in these numbers. So what happens there is, is that if the city gets into a point where the where the growth is stagnant, or we don't see a lot of other growth besides Fisher, the tax rate will probably likely go up because the revenue is going to stay flat. And the revenue, the only reason why they're lower this year is, is the water got reassessed this year. That shows you about how far under reassessment communities can be from the four year period or five year period that they're reassessed. So. 112 00:20:23,030 --> 00:20:32,470 I'm happy to answer any questions, but I just help you out any way I can. 113 00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:39,390 Well, it seems to me that as much as people don't want to hear it. 114 00:20:39,390 --> 00:20:46,470 For the benefit of the city, I feel like we need to do the comp. 115 00:20:46,470 --> 00:21:16,710 Plus, for S6: 116 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:56,660 Yeah. And I've got a presentation I'm going to do when it comes time for that ordinance, which is, you know, it's a lot of money we're going to be paying for over the next ten years if we do this financing. One other thing just to point out real quick, if you take the comp plus four, it's not like we're going to get rich here because if you look at the revenues we're expected to bring in, it's only $14,000 more in real and $10,000 more or less $6,000 more in tangible. I mean, so we're talking about $20,000 more by taking the comp plus four or the comp. The comp puts us under under what we anticipated. 117 00:21:56,660 --> 00:22:16,340 Correct me if I'm wrong, though, but the last time, you know, a couple people wanted to increase the rate and we didn't increase it. And then now I guess we've done so good that that's why. Oh, there you go. 118 00:22:16,340 --> 00:22:24,320 Uh, but I guess that's why it's low this year is because the city brought in excess. Is that. 119 00:22:24,320 --> 00:23:25,460 No, it's it's low this year because the assessments went up. So if you were being if the city was being let's just say a house is assessed at 100,000. And they did the reassessment and it was 140,000. We have no control over that. The market controls that PVA controls that. That's just what houses are selling for in the area. But everybody's house went up somewhere somehow, unless they appealed it or unless they were way off before. And so because the valuation went up, plus the new growth which the new growth is not. Fisher. The new growth is the asphalt plant, the concrete plant. I mean, there's like $84 million worth of new growth. That $84 million worth of new growth also helps keep the number down. That's why I just said, if you take that number and you stay stagnant in the future years, the rate will go up. But every time, every time you get a reassessment, every time it reassesses, you're going to have a chance to take the tax rate lower. So in this case, the tax rate is lower but the valuations are higher. So everybody's tax bill is going to go up no matter what you take. If you take the 26216 they're going to go up. If you take the 224 they're going to go up. 120 00:23:25,460 --> 00:23:27,260 And that's because of PVA. 121 00:23:27,260 --> 00:24:10,020 It's because it's not PVA fault. It is what Kentucky law requires them to be reassessed every so many years. And again, if you bought your house in the 1960s and never sold it and lived in it, you would get incremental increases every time they reassessed. But if you sell that house in 1970s and 1980s and 19 in 2000, every time you sell it, you're selling it for market value. That's the real number that they're trying to tax. They're always about 75 to 95% of what they should be. They're never at 100%. Only that first year when you sold your house and the new person bought it, that's that's a fair number sometimes. Sometimes it's not that either if you sold to a family member or something was wrong with it. Rarely do they go down. 122 00:24:10,020 --> 00:24:20,440 So how much revenue difference is there between the. Without. Because I got my glass, but I still can't hardly see it. Between the compensation rate and the compensation plus. 123 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:26,000 41075 1,000,075 10621114925. 124 00:24:26,000 --> 00:25:59,830 I can't do the math in my head that quick, but about 35,000. Yeah, but still only 14,000 over what we budgeted. So I that's the when I sent that email out, I wasn't really trying to guide anybody in any direction. But you got, you have to realize we, we constantly are under this scrutiny of salary surveys. Probably the number one thing that that I hate when it comes across my desk is a salary survey or an ad from another agency that says, hey, we're paying people this or this, and people see that. Our staff sees that and go, wait a minute, what are we doing? So that that hurts. It hurts us. And then ers is going up for us. Fuel prices are going up for us. I realize prices are going up for everybody too, but we haven't done this in a long time. We haven't taken the rate, and we're pretty much maxed out on all the other taxes that we collect. The insurance premiums at ten, uh, payrolls at 2.25, it can go as high as 2.5. Um, there's a cap on that insurance. Our franchise is at three um, utility franchise. So it's not like there's a whole lot of other ways to get the revenue. And, and I said before about the residents not paying a lot, they pay about 25% of the overall city budget, but the businesses are also paying this tax. They're not only paying this real estate tax tax, but they're also paying the tangible tax. None of the residents are paying the tangible tax. Well, I shouldn't say none of most of them aren't. If you had a home office, you might pay something small. But. 125 00:25:59,830 --> 00:26:06,390 But on the higher tangible, we were kind of blamed for running businesses out of our city. Correct. Because it's tangible. 126 00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:39,490 It was it was not. It was up to the nine mark. And that's that was that was a big jump from like 3 to 9. So we went to four and didn't take. And again, that taking less affected this year's rate. Two because we didn't take what we could have taken. So the revenue was lower. That's just on the tangible. The two are merged together. People don't realize that they are merged together, but the two rates do affect one another. If we got a huge growth of 3 or $400 million in tangible valuation, all of a sudden the real estate would go down too. 127 00:26:39,490 --> 00:27:07,410 But the businesses, right, a lot of that tangible off after so many years, like the steel plant, I mean, I'm sure that they've written off the equipment they've got down there. It's been closed down for close to ten years or eight years. And so I'm sure that they've said, you know, we're writing this off, we're evaluating it. Zero, although it's not evaluated at zero, it's it is for them because they're not using it, but they could sell it. 128 00:27:07,410 --> 00:27:17,910 So I'll make one more statement here before. Um, so you're talking about $35,000 difference. Yes. Okay. 129 00:27:17,910 --> 00:27:20,750 And the revenue from complex four. 130 00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:22,390 Okay. 131 00:27:22,390 --> 00:27:23,190 And it's 14. 132 00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:27,230 I said 14,000 over what we budgeted. 133 00:27:27,230 --> 00:27:38,430 Oh, I get that. I just, I the difference I don't, I don't to me 35,000. I would think we could come up figure out some way to make that up. So yeah, that's just me. 134 00:27:38,430 --> 00:29:01,890 I think you can. But I think what everybody's missing and I think we've missed for the last couple of years, when you do not take what the district is telling you to take, it's affecting the rates on both on both the real and the tangible. I mean, and I confirm that with the district. So when we're taking one rate, if we would have taken the comp or the comp plus four, it could lower that rate the following year. Everything everything affects what we're doing. And they even said, why didn't you, you know, on the point nine, you didn't take that. You took point four. Why did you take point four? It's affecting everything you do. When you take something that they're not telling you you should take. I'm not saying you should take every everything what they say. I'm just saying comp or comp plus four. We really should be taking that every year. We do not take comp. I don't I've only been here ten years, but I don't think maybe once we've taken the comp rate, we kind of play with the rate is what we're doing, which then the following year, they can't even explain to me why the rate goes what it's doing, because they're confused on what we're doing. And that Excel spreadsheet is also confused is what she's saying. So I just wish if we could just really understand what is in this rate, not just keeping the rate low. 135 00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:50,480 So and that was my point. Also, one other thing just about the Fisher pilot assessments not being included in this is that if you take the comp, the theory is the rate would stay at that rate or lower as you continue to grow. If Fisher's numbers aren't included in the assessment because technically they're zeros, we apply the rate to the valuation later, but technically they're not in the assessment. They're not in the overall 497 734, 97,000,734, 535. They're not in that number. So because of that, that is going to inflate the numbers. If you don't take the comp year after year, taking the comp year after year is going to continue to keep it more stable than allowing it to go up and down. 136 00:29:50,480 --> 00:30:21,020 And what that comes out to, it's $8 for every 100,000. So if your house is 300,000, if you take the two, two, four versus the Versus a 216. If it's a $300,000 house, it's going to be 24 extra dollars a year. Yeah, a year. But I mean, this is it's up to you guys. I just if you guys have any questions. 137 00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:57,740 Yeah, I've been here for a few years and we do discuss it every time. And we've always tried to make it better and make it better. And last year we did. We lowered the tangible and said, hey, that may get us more money if we go lower. Well, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't. So if we let somebody else make the decision and we accept that decision, it could be just comp and go from there and then and so and so in in theory, it could possibly go down next year if because it goes up this year. So it's going to be more even instead of up and down. Is that correct. 138 00:30:57,740 --> 00:32:13,620 That that is theoretically correct. Again that's going to be based on tangibles too. to. If a business comes in here tomorrow and puts a lot of tangibles in. It should lower it too. If a business pulls out and takes a lot of tangibles out, then the tangibles are going to affect it. Our tangible rate is now more in line with other areas. Communities. I think independence is. The mayor just showed me today was like five something. So that's their tangible and their real is 1..9.193. And that sounds great. Except guess what? They have a fire district. So we are taking $2 million off the table by not having a fire department. That's a whole other tax at $2 a thousand. We're doing everything fire, police administration, public works and recreation. It may not be what Florence does every year for recreation, but we do a fair amount of recreation for what we have to spend. And I'm telling you, we're doing it for right now. 2.231. And a lot of the cities out there are doing the fire alone at two. And that's the max they can take. So. Central. Campbell. Uh, Campbell fire Rescue. Those fire departments charge a $2 per $1,000 tax rate on the county tax bill. Our county tax bill for our residents has zero fire district, not a fire district. City fire department. 139 00:32:13,620 --> 00:33:00,570 And what the district is doing is they're just wanting us to have the same revenue as last year. They're just you know what I mean? They're just broken the Excel spreadsheet. They're all, you know, putting their numbers into. They just want us to get to the revenue we were last year. And they're saying in order to do that, and they're pretty much right on with the rates. I mean, if you look at them, you know, the comp plus four is right at about budget, you know, and that's what they're saying to run the city the way you did last year. You need this rate. And that's and that's just why, you know, we do use them, you know, for that faulty equipment. 140 00:33:00,570 --> 00:33:07,530 And just a reminder, this is just the first reading. Appreciate the discussion. 141 00:33:07,530 --> 00:33:13,810 I'm in agreement with Bob. I think we just need to do the plus four. So just my opinion. 142 00:33:13,810 --> 00:33:46,970 Okay. And if the majority suggests that we take the plus four, we need to schedule the next council meeting. Then on the 28th, because we will have to have a public hearing, and it has to be advertised on two separate occasions, on two separate weeks, no less than seven, no more than ten days before the next meeting, which would be. And so the next meeting will start like at six, six, 15. You have a public hearing concerning the tax rate, adopting the comp plus four, and answering any questions that anybody has about why you're taking the higher tax rate. That's the purpose of that. 143 00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:48,210 We still need a motion. 144 00:33:48,210 --> 00:34:01,470 Yeah. No I'm just saying keep in mind that that's that's what'll start. Because if somebody says, oh, I can't make it on the 28th. And we got to think about backtracking to get to the meeting date, because that's not our normal meeting date. 145 00:34:01,470 --> 00:34:05,510 And budget wise, that's going to get us $14,000 above budget. 146 00:34:05,510 --> 00:34:53,310 Yes. If everything is collected right. And depending on what you do for the tangible, we're still going to be a little shy under tangible. Um, if you take the comp plus for a small amount, like $7,000, I mean, because of the rate last year, if you remember, we were quite a bit short on tangible on budget. We did make up for it in other ways, um, through the revenue, through other taxes, but um, and I'm not sure what you guys want to do with the tangible rate. Um, it's at four, four zero now the comp is 0.458 and the comp plus four is 476. 147 00:34:53,310 --> 00:35:07,410 Juanita what is the. When you look at our overall budget, what percentage of this is that total? So if we have 100% of our budget, how much of this is a part of that budget? Is it 25%. 148 00:35:07,410 --> 00:35:15,810 About 2022 to 25%. 22. We have a $6 million budget. So this is about $1 million, 1,000,003. So it's about 25%. 149 00:35:15,810 --> 00:35:16,250 Okay. 150 00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:16,610 All right. 151 00:35:16,610 --> 00:35:24,290 If that. And the biggest chunk of that we've talked about this before is really our income tax, correct? Is really where we get our chunk. 152 00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:28,290 Quickly becoming the insurance premium tax as insurance premiums skyrocket. 153 00:35:28,290 --> 00:35:29,730 Gotcha. Okay. 154 00:35:29,730 --> 00:35:46,010 And again, that's a a guessing game as to who you're getting and when you're getting it, because they've still not come up with a real clear way of identifying. We're getting your 10% and Newport's not getting your temperature. It just it's, it's crazy. If you ask them, they don't really have a good answer for you. 155 00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:50,490 So still, our best way to raise revenue is going to be bring in more jobs, right? 156 00:35:50,490 --> 00:35:52,910 Well, it always is. All right. It always is. 157 00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:53,510 I like. 158 00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:59,110 That. Let's bring them in. 159 00:35:59,110 --> 00:36:28,190 I would point out, though, on the tangible, you can't if you take the four four. Oh well actually let's see. Again strange because the four four is lower than the 476. So I don't understand how that happens because you could not take the 231, which is the current rate we have. That would be over the 4%. Anything over the 4% and 440 is under 476. So I don't understand how that happens. But the comp plus four would allow you to take the four, seven, six. 160 00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:43,990 If you left that at 440, you'd be only collecting. You'd be 31000 short on tangible. So the 14,000 you made up on real property would half that would be gone. Intangibles. 161 00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:47,550 How is 476 lower than 440. 162 00:36:47,550 --> 00:37:19,260 That's what I that's what I said. I don't I don't understand. You can take the 476 because it's comp plus four. So you can take that one. You can take the 4402. It would just bring in less money, but you can't take last year's real rate because that would be over 4%. And we would have. You could public hearing again but subject to recall. 163 00:37:19,260 --> 00:37:20,700 What do we need here a motion or not? 164 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:38,900 Yeah. I was just going to say if the discussion or all the questions asked and answered. Anybody else have any. Sandy, are you okay? All right. So yeah, at this point we would just need a motion and see if it passes. This is the first reading. 165 00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:52,640 I'll make a motion that we pass ordinance number 260902 using the compas for rate for. real property intangibles. 166 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,760 Okay, so we have a motion. 167 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,400 A second. 168 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,680 We have a second. As this is an ordinance we need. If you would take the roll, please. 169 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:06,160 And I'm sorry, you said real and tangible. Correct? Yes. Okay. Councilman Blankenship. 170 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,680 Yes. 171 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:12,320 Councilman moles. Yes. Councilwoman. Decker. Yes. Councilman. Murphy. 172 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,040 Yes. 173 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,240 Councilman. Profit. 174 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,200 No. 175 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,600 Okay. Motion carried. 176 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,040 Okay. 177 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:38,400 Stay tuned for the public hearing, the ad, and the next meeting date. We'll have to advertise because it's a special meeting date for us. But that's the only way we can get the ads in according to the the time slots. So 630 on the 28th. Mark your calendars. 178 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,640 That doesn't change anything for us, Brian, does it? S6: 179 00:38:39,640 --> 00:39:03,940 No. Okay. Six yeah. 615 I'm sorry. Bob. You're right. We'll have to do it a little bit earlier in case we, you know, if there's a lot of people, then you'll just take the questions. And I think my email to you guys about what we're spending money on right now and where we're going to be going here soon, if we don't keep up, should be sufficient. But, you know, I'm sure somebody's going to be happy, but it won't it won't affect us. Brian. 180 00:39:03,940 --> 00:39:09,540 Um, yeah. I mean, it will affect when we have second reading, so I'll, I'll push the bids. 181 00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:17,660 Okay. All right. I'm hoping we don't have to pay it. I hope we don't have to pay. How quickly after second reading do we get the. 182 00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:23,260 Uh, right now? I had it at, uh, ten days, so 8 or 9 days. 183 00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:24,900 That's fine. All right. 184 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:27,540 So when. 185 00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:31,380 When will the hearing be public hearing? 186 00:39:31,380 --> 00:39:35,980 Public hearing will be 15 minutes before the regular council meeting. So 615 on the 28th. 187 00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:36,640 Of. 188 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:48,080 September. I'm sorry, isn't that isn't that a how come I can never come Monday? It's a Monday. Yeah. So it would be the same. It's just like a Monday. so we won't have planning and zoning that week. 189 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,440 There's no meeting on the 21st. 190 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,880 No meeting on the 21st. 191 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,600 Okay, Aaron, you're up again. 192 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:22,400 I have first reading of ordinance number 26-0903, an ordinance amending chapter 72, section 72.02 of the Municipal Code, adding two new publicly dedicated streets and overlook at sunrise development streets will be city maintained and are located within the City of Wilder, setting speed limits, stop sign locations and parking restrictions for the newly dedicated streets. 193 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:59,630 So Fisher has now submitted final plats for two more phases, and that would be a street called Montford Street, which has 5 or 614 unit condominium buildings on it, similar to the ones they're building on Bentwood Hills and then Grovewood Street that has about 48 or 58, I forget, single family homes. So those streets are in. They've been accepted by us 45 days after they're put in. If we don't object, they're accepted by us anyway. But this establishes the parking and the speed limit signs. And we add this to our city list of streets. So that's all this does. 194 00:40:59,630 --> 00:41:01,230 Are all the streets going to be concrete? 195 00:41:01,230 --> 00:41:21,550 They are all concrete. And I believe they're going to be concrete all the way through to Southgate, although I don't know, once they get beyond our Planning Commission authority, they may change. But right now I think they're all concrete. Okay. 196 00:41:21,550 --> 00:41:32,390 Any other questions or comments around this ordinance? Okay. Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion. 197 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:33,350 So moved. 198 00:41:33,350 --> 00:41:40,510 We have a motion. We have a second. Again, it is an ordinance. 199 00:41:40,510 --> 00:41:41,810 Councilman Blankenship. 200 00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:42,410 Yes. 201 00:41:42,410 --> 00:41:49,090 Councilman Murphy. Yes. Councilwoman. Decker. Councilman. Mills. Councilman. Proffitt. 202 00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:50,290 Yes. 203 00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:54,010 Motion carried. 204 00:41:54,010 --> 00:46:00,900 So, Aaron, if I could have a minute. I'll do as quickly as I can. I'm going to give you all, show you what this next ordinance is all about. If we're going to borrow $1 million. I figure you ought to see what we're borrowing it for. Some of these are going to be reproductive last time. So this is where it started. On April the 30th at 10:52 a.m.. Um, that's what the street looked like there. By 1119. That's what it looked like. So not less than an hour later, um, the culvert, as you recall, if you look at the very bottom of this picture, and I've got a closer slide, the bottom of the culvert, see that darkened line right there? Not the center dark line. That's the water line. That's the normal that's a water line to where the pipe rusted out. And so what this pipe did, if you look at that water line now, look at the 3:00 position on that pipe. See that rust? That's the piece that rusted, that broke. You can't really tell it on this, but it the rusty spot right there is where the pipe snapped and then it curled up on itself with the weight of the of the dirt. So, um, there's some utilities that we had to move. I think that happens to be spectrum. Um, but that's what it looked like on May 6th. The island, there was a landscaped island at Brentwood Hills Drive. We had to take it out because the crane couldn't get in there. We'll relocate the street light. We will not be putting the island back. That's the other mess of utilities that were in there, everything from optics to Duke energy. Those lines have now been located on temporary poles, and they're fine where they are. Um, but the HOA has advised us that they're not happy with us putting them back or leaving them there. They want them back underground. That'll cost another $60,000. So we're back to the comp plus four rate. See, that's the kind of thing that pays for things like this when we don't have any cooperation from anybody. I'm sorry to say it, but $60,000 we can save if we leave them on the on the overhead poles. Uh, that's the island as it is now, not being taken out. Uh, I mean, not being put back. They'll stripe it so that it appears to be an island. Then there's, there'll be two lanes out like there were before. One lane in that all gets resurfaced all the way across. This is the excavation. That's the crane sitting up there on the right hand side. Uh, it was August 11th. That's the old headwall that you see around. Um, they had to modify that headwall in this picture. You'll see where they cut the top of it out and cut the circle out. You also see the red pipe there. That's a soft suction line where we're removing the water from the up side to the low side. So they didn't get in the work area. That's the first piece of culvert right there. You see the guy standing in. It gives you a perspective of how big it is. Um, each one weighs between 25 and 50,000 pounds. They came from Owensboro, Kentucky. One at a time on a truck. Or sometimes I think they may have put two on a truck. They lifted out by the crane. This is about three quarters full, three quarters complete. They're starting to backfill some of the area. Again same picture. That's looking in at complete from the bottom. Let's see. Yeah we're looking at it from the upstream side to the low stream side there because there's the suction hose off on the right hand corner. That's looking at it from the opposite direction. Looking at it from the downstream side up the part that we're still needing to fix right now besides the pavement, is you see that rebar sticking up right there in the center of that picture or close to the center of the picture. That is the rest of the headwall that headwall needs to be modified. So there's a there's concrete going to go up and over that culvert to keep it in there. Believe it or not, this stuff can float and can move. If we don't trap it in with this headwall. So the headwall has to be built up and over that that crew is supposed to start tomorrow. Uh, they expect to be 2 to 3 weeks. They'll be finished. And then the pavement, the grading will finish, the utilities will be put back, the grading will finish. We're looking at about 4 to 5 weeks for completion. Now. It looks like you can drive on it now. And I hope everybody doesn't. That's today's or no, that's uh. Yeah, that's today's picture. Um they're actually. 205 00:46:00,900 --> 00:47:32,420 Grading it out and hauling away the old material. But you can see the barricades on the other side of Bentwood Hills Drive. I mean, somebody really adventurous, I guess, could drive through that. I would hope they wouldn't, but, um, it's not open yet. Also, this all started as a result of me going down Bentwood Hills Drive to mark some bad areas that Fisher agreed to pay for on the existing Bentwood Hills Drive, not the culvert. And when I was marking them that day, I came out and saw this on April 30th. We were just going to repave portions that they had damaged and they agreed they had damaged. Um, we're going to repave all that too. Once this opens back up, we'll be able to resurface that section from Lakeview to the other Lakeview. So Lakeview starts at one end at Brentwood and comes back around to the other Lakeview. That whole section will be repaved one lane, and it'll fix the spots that need to be fixed. And fishers agreed to kick in some money on that one. So, um, I sent you guys the spreadsheet that I believe has everything. I'm still waiting to hear from Wayne Carlisle and Maxam. Um, he sort of agreed that he would, uh, donate the crane. Um, I'm hoping he still does because it was there a long time. Um, but if he does decide to send us a bill or needs to send us a bill, it'll be added to that number I gave you. It's why I still have about $200,000 in contingencies. And if he doesn't, then I need to know the total number because we need to have a party or something for him, because he's saved us about 50 to $100,000, I'm guessing just in the crane operation. So that's a lot. I didn't leave the pictures up, but if you need to see any of them, I'll be happy to bring them back up or. 206 00:47:32,420 --> 00:47:34,340 No. 207 00:47:34,340 --> 00:47:36,020 Just posted right away. 208 00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:36,500 And then we can. 209 00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:38,100 Leave them there. 210 00:47:38,100 --> 00:49:46,110 Uh, it would still require taking them back off and putting them back on. Um, when we had to get them far enough out of the area so the crane could operate and they wouldn't hit the overhead lines. And when we did that, we put them on HOA property. We're clearly on HOA property with a temporary easement. That's fine. They granted that or they'd been out with utilities. But I mean, we've had conversations about we could have cul de sac, both ends of that road at Bent Hills Drive and not put it back and just left that an open hole. Everybody just had to go out the new way. Um, I'm not suggesting that was a great idea, but it was an idea that would save us about $1 million. So with that said, we could pay this out of our capital budget, but it would wipe everything else out that we've agreed to do this year, including projects we already have underway. So, um, I've contacted Brian Skinner from Ross and Claire. He's sitting right there in the front row. He prepared the ordinance and the lease agreement. I've sent that or it was sent to Aaron to review. There were some questions or comments that I think they've since fixed. Um, in like most of the time when people borrow this kind of money, they buy things like fire trucks. So it says you have to insure it. Well, we can't insure the culvert. I mean, I wish we could, because if we could have, we would have used the money that we had with it damaged. So just things like that. Um but I think they've corrected all that stuff. This would be first reading of that ordinance that would allow. He then is going to run ads and solicit bids from banks on interest rates. And by the time we come back for second reading, we'll have a payment schedule. We opted for the ten year payment plan because there's no prepayment penalty for early payout. There was a five and a ten year. There was also a Kelsey Bond issue that we could have done. It would have probably cost us about the same amount. In the end, it would have cost Brian less paperwork. Um, but, uh, anyway, um, we would have paid like monthly, I believe on that note, instead of semiannually like we pay on the fire truck we have now, which is the same loan, I think we're 4 or 5 years into that. But again, with no prepayment penalty, if we decide to pay more or pay it off sooner, we can. But if we did the five year and got into a financial situation, we'd be stuck. So. Questions on any of that? Brian Skinner. And I'll let. Brian. 211 00:49:46,110 --> 00:49:47,790 Brian. I was just going to enter. 212 00:49:47,790 --> 00:49:48,390 All the way up here so. 213 00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:56,830 He can let him at least have a few minutes on the floor. And Brian, please make sure you hit the microphone on. There you go. 214 00:49:56,830 --> 00:50:39,410 Sorry, I'm red. Green colorblind. So I never knew whose microphones were on. Um, again, Brian Skinner with RSA advisors helped you guys with a few issues. Now. Um, actually you used to live on Lakeview Drive about 20 years ago. Um, so yeah, drove over that. So now we're getting it fixed. Um, I already have advertised out there, um, for interest rate proposals and proposals from banks. We include local banks, national banks. Got a few questions. So um, with your new meeting date. We'll adjust those bids to be back on the Friday the 25th at noon, and then the 28th will be able to let you know what the interest rates results we got back and let you guys decide what you want to do. 215 00:50:39,410 --> 00:50:42,930 Any questions? S1: 216 00:50:42,930 --> 00:51:42,510 Unlike the fire truck where we borrowed the money in advance and invested it, the bond market and the interest rates aren't quite as attractive as they are today, so we won't be borrowing this money any sooner than we have to. Um, but we have 100,000 coming from the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet as a result of the application I filed with them when this first happened, when I thought we were just replacing a couple sections of pipe. That was a dream at the time. Um, and we have 300,000 more than we budgeted for our carryover from general fund to capital. We budgeted 700,000 carryover. I think we get closer to a million so that 300,000 can be transferred to. So really, we're looking at about 400,000 either in reimbursements or our own money. but to be on the safe side and still this thing's 90%, 80% done. But I'm not going to put all my eggs in that basket and say that we're done, because things have a way of popping up. And these are expensive things. So. 217 00:51:42,510 --> 00:51:43,870 So does Aaron read this? 218 00:51:43,870 --> 00:51:46,270 Yeah. Unless you have any questions. 219 00:51:46,270 --> 00:51:50,830 Yep. So any other questions. 220 00:51:50,830 --> 00:52:06,590 I have one comment. I talked to Terry earlier. We should have just let the road wash out and let all the utilities run down the run down the creek, and then they got to pay for them all. It's an act of God. 221 00:52:06,590 --> 00:52:15,950 Yes. If they that's this way. We could have done that and go back and fix it. 222 00:52:15,950 --> 00:52:48,180 And a bridge at this point might have been a better idea 40 years ago when this development went in because that's what Woodland Hills has. But a bridge would have cost us about three times what this cost us. So this is still this actually is the largest precast culvert used in this area. This this contractor, Eaton Asphalt, has been in business for a long time. This is the first time they've ever installed a culvert this size. And it's still probably a little undersized from what division of water wanted, but it's better than what was there, if that makes any sense. 223 00:52:48,180 --> 00:53:17,940 So I have ordinance number 26-0904. This is the first reading, an ordinance approving a lease agreement to finance the cost of a public project and a maximum principal amount not to exceed $1,150,000, providing for the payment security of the lease and deposits to a sinking fund authorizing the execution of various documents related to such lease and making certain designations regarding such lease. 224 00:53:17,940 --> 00:53:21,320 And I had Brian come up if you got questions because a lot of language. So he can. 225 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,280 Yep. 226 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,520 What is a sinking fund? 227 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:31,640 A sinking fund is basically where you guys put the money aside to make the payments. You'll keep some money off to the side. 228 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,640 I see. Okay. 229 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,120 The fund, you make the account. 230 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:47,720 But because this is a general obligation bond, we're obligated to make the payments no matter where the money comes from, whether it's a sinking fund or not. It's sort of like us putting money aside instead of waiting till the payments do. I don't think it's. 231 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:48,400 No. 232 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:58,840 I don't think we've ever done it. Okay. I just I'm sorry. I just had to point that out. I don't know if that's good to point out or not, but we've always just paid the payments on time. So, um, uh. 233 00:53:58,840 --> 00:55:18,880 And, uh, that is one of the, um, like, um, Terry said, I did review the, this lease prior and that was one of the questions I had for bond counsel was because generally the idea was we were just going to pay it out of our general fund and not set up a separate bank account and allocate whatever portion of our tax revenue into that. You know, a sinking fund. The way I think of it would be similar to. Not to confuse the two, but kind of how you got the Fisher Irby bonds. And the revenue from that kind of goes into its own account and a trustee. And then those bonds are paid out. You know, the loans are paid out of that specific. Tax revenue. It doesn't fit perfect with our situation, but it's very common to use that in this situation. So the bond council was going to see if they could loosen up some of that sinking fund language. However you loosen up too much you don't comply with the CRS. And so you got to kind of leave it in there. And so I think it's going to be a technical requirement of the city, but it's not going to really change the way the city does business. It's the way I've discussed it with bond counsel, if that helps you. 234 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:31,720 Yes, that is correct. Okay. Yes. Yes. 235 00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:36,880 Well, I don't mind making a motion, but I'd rather someone else did it. 236 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:42,880 Well, we do need a motion if we're moving forward on it on the first reading. 237 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,080 But I will. 238 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,040 I'll go ahead and make the motion. 239 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:55,240 Okay, so we have a motion. Sandy, do you want to quote the ordinance number? 240 00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:58,040 26-0904. 241 00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:58,880 I'll second. 242 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:05,640 Okay. So we have a motion and a second. Again it is another ordinance. We need a roll vote. 243 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,040 Councilwoman. Decker. Councilman. Moles. Yes. Councilman. Blankenship. 244 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:10,400 Yes. 245 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,350 Councilman. Murphy. Councilman. in, prophet. 246 00:56:13,350 --> 00:56:14,350 Yes. 247 00:56:14,350 --> 00:56:22,510 All right. Motion carried. Thank you. 248 00:56:22,510 --> 00:56:45,030 I have a proclamation of the city making. September 17th, 2026, the 239th anniversary of the drafting of the Constitution of the United States of America. Excuse me. Instead of making, I meant to say marking the September 17th, 2026 as the anniversary. 249 00:56:45,030 --> 00:58:50,670 So this was, um, a respectful request that came from the daughters of the American Revolution. Um, it's a non profit, non political volunteer service organization. And they just asked us if we would prepare this proclamation and then read it this evening. So I'll try to read it as quickly as I can. And then we will notify them that we did um presented this evening. So whereas September the 17th, 2026 marks the 239th anniversary of the drafting of the Constitution of the United States of America by the Constitutional Convention. And whereas, it is fitting and proper to accord official recognition to this magnificent document and it's memorable anniversary, and to the patriotic celebrations which will commemorate the occasion. And whereas Public Law 915 guarantees the issuing of a proclamation each year by the president of the United States of America, designating September the 17th through the 23rd as the Constitution Week. Now, therefore, I. Valerie Jones, by virtue of the authority vested in me as the mayor of the City of Wilder, do hereby proclaim the week of September the 17th through the 23rd, as Constitution Week and ask our citizens to reaffirm the ideals of the framers of the Constitution had in 1787, by vigilantly protecting the freedoms guaranteed to us through this Guardian of our liberties, remembering that lost rights may never be regained. In witness whereof I. Here I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the city of Wilder to be affixed the 17th day of September of 2026. 250 00:58:50,670 --> 00:59:11,050 And then just the last thing I would have would be, um. I had mentioned the last council meeting. I was going to send out letters to delinquent taxpayers on the real estate taxes. And I did that. And I have received two responses so far and hoping to get 100% response, but we're working through that. So I just wanted to update you on that. 251 00:59:11,050 --> 00:59:13,410 Did you mention we have a payment plan? Do we need. 252 00:59:13,410 --> 00:59:15,730 To? 253 00:59:15,730 --> 00:59:29,570 And one of them, I think it was like $850 balance is wanting to do $200 a month payments. So that should knock that out pretty quick. So that wasn't no big deal. We agreed to that. So. 254 00:59:29,570 --> 00:59:39,530 Any questions or comments for Aaron before we move along. All right. We'll move right into the department official updates. Terry you're up again. 255 00:59:39,530 --> 01:02:43,200 So I already spent a lot of time on the call. I'm not going to talk about that anymore. Um, hopefully never again, but, um, the coffee shop interior work is starting. Um, the coffee shop people have got their financing approved. We're working out a few minor details on their renting of the equipment and how that works with their people, but all we really need to do outside now is relocate the gas and the Hvac. We have Preconstruction meeting tomorrow here at 130 to 230. Actually, it's not here. It'll be across the street and eating asphalt. Got the bid for that and should be starting work on that soon. We had a country drive preconstruction meeting. For those of you who are not aware, country drives taking a beating over the years and is in really bad shape. And it's sort of embarrassing because the cannabis place has their ribbon cutting here soon, and the streets, we're not going to have it done by the time they have their ribbon cutting. It's unfortunate, but I can't get the contractor down there any sooner. But we will be installing curb and gutters on that street, which would help the street. Right now, the street is so flat that the water stays on the street and the ditch lines, and it undermines the street and gets the subgrade wet. So I'm hoping that with curb and gutters and getting the water away from the street, it will help give the street some some better life. Uh, also, whether their complaints or compliments, I'm getting a lot of both of those about the pile the mess over there at John's Hill Road and Licking Pike. You may. Many of you might have had that on your mind tonight to talk about, but I'm working on getting it cleaned up. I part of the problem is we've got a couple low spots over there that we have to get pipe in the ground and then push that pile down and clean it up right now. It's been put there by the contractor working for sanitation by some Duke contractors and by Fisher. And it it's been a borrow. Actually, the culvert has taken dirt over there and then got the dirt to take it back because they didn't have enough room over there to work. So we're working on getting it cleaned up. Um, it is an eyesore right now, I get it, but it's not going to stay that way. And last but not least, the Iron Center has applied for their conditional use permit, which is the first step of their process for the property at 530 Licking Pike. They need a development plan approval by the Planning Commission. But before that, they decided to go with the Board of Adjustment hearing to get their conditional use permit approved for the congregate housing. That element is not approved as a permitted use, but only conditional permitted. So it's another step they got to go through. I have not set the hearing yet. I need to get hold of Board of Adjustments members and set up a meeting. To put that in perspective, we haven't met in two years. So, um, it's not like it's somebody that I can just call up and say, let's meet next month. So, uh, we're working on it. One of them's in the audience here. I've already talked to Greg. He's going to be there. So, uh, anyway, if you have any questions about any of that, I'll be happy to answer them. The site plan they submitted was the same site plan they'd given to us when we entered into the contract. There will be a site plan that is much more detailed than the one they gave. Are giving them the planning commission, but they don't want to go to that expense. If the conditional use permit is not approved. 256 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,880 Questions? S11: 257 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:45,760 A whole lot. 258 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,040 Because I thought in Campbell County news that was for sale. 259 01:02:49,040 --> 01:03:26,540 It was. And I called them and said, we've got an offer already accepted. So they took it down. It just takes a while for us to they run those ads. Campbell County does about once every six months. It might show up in their thing. And it showed up and I saw it and I was like, oh, we got to call them and tell them. So I thought, yeah, they're taking the whole lot. Most of it's probably 60 some parking spaces. That's. But the building's like 28,000ft², like two and a half, three stories. So it's a, it's a big building and it sits sort of an L shape along Andrews Way and the creek behind it. So it's not in the front. 260 01:03:26,540 --> 01:04:00,370 Questions on that? S5: 261 01:04:00,370 --> 01:04:09,010 Okay. Any questions? No. All right. Then we will move right along to Juanita for the treasurer's report. 262 01:04:09,010 --> 01:06:04,170 I was just going to go through the calendar of events. The splash pad closed yesterday. Um, flag raising is this Saturday at 12. Um, we'll have a light lunch provided afterwards. Um, so I'm hoping we'll have a lot of people come to the flag raising. We will be honoring um Sergeant Ryan Miller with from our police department. Um, and it's always such a beautiful ceremony. Um, I hope people come and it's going to be a beautiful day. Um, so that's this Saturday at 12:00. Our annual yard sale was September 18th, 19th and 20th. Um, if you want to have a yard sale and you want your street in the paper, please call me and we'll get that in the paper the week of um of the yard sale. Uh, coffee and talk with the mayor. September 21st at 10:00. Our annual senior picnic for Wilder residents is September 30th at 12:00. Please call the city building to reserve a spot. We hope it's always such a wonderful event, so I hope it's like that this year. So please come September 30th and all ages are welcomed. Um, September 30th is also our Medicare seminar. Um, if you want to go to that, please call the city building to register. Um, it's also she does Anita Berry. She does a great job. Um, I know people that have gone to her and they've, she's answered all their questions with regarding Medicare. So if anyone's interested, that is September 30th at 7:00. Um, we're doing something new this year. We're going to do a Halloween house decorating contest, kind of like we do for Christmas. Uh, resident, um, asked the mayor if she would try it. So we are going to try that this year. So decorate your house and there will be judges coming through, kind of like we do for Christmas. We'll just kind of see if that takes off or not. Um, and Trunk or treat is October 24th, from 1 to 3. Anybody that wants to hand out candy, we'll do it here behind the building. It's always a fun event. So, um, hopefully you guys can make that. That's all I got. Mayor. 263 01:06:04,170 --> 01:06:05,970 Wonderful. Thank you. 264 01:06:05,970 --> 01:06:07,010 And then we have. 265 01:06:07,010 --> 01:06:31,410 Financials, right? Yes. Okay. We have a very busy month in front of us. Um, Council received a copy of the financials from Juanita. Are there any questions, concerns or comments? All right. Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to approve the financials so we can pay our bills. We have a motion. 266 01:06:31,410 --> 01:06:33,130 Second. 267 01:06:33,130 --> 01:06:45,570 Okay. We have a motion. We have a second. All in favor. Signify by saying aye. Anyone opposed? All right. Motion carried. Thank you. All right. Police Chief Martin, you're up. 268 01:06:45,570 --> 01:07:50,940 As I mentioned, the reaccreditation, we passed and are certified again for the next four years. The Kentucky League of City audits that they do every two years, and the four year accreditation maxing out those numbers is what allows us to take the lowest liability rating on our insurance premium, so that is beneficial. The guys did a great job working on that. I also want to thank, uh, Sergeant Collins, who is now Patrolman Collins, for coming back to us in a time where there's not a lot of people lining up to do this profession. Uh, we appreciate him coming back and glad to have him back. That somebody that has the kind of knowledge was the amount of time that he spent here in the city. And then lastly, just a reminder that we have touch a truck September 26th from 11 to 2. So please let everybody know to come out and let their kids play on the trucks. Lieutenant Pete's got a bunch of great door prizes and raffles to give away. So I've got. 269 01:07:50,940 --> 01:07:51,460 Okay. 270 01:07:51,460 --> 01:07:54,620 What's the time? 11 to 2. 271 01:07:54,620 --> 01:08:45,500 Any questions or comments for the chief? All right, well, I'm not going to let him off the hook too easily. Um, I just want to make you aware of a rather significant award that the department received. So as a founding member of the Northern Kentucky Peer Support Team, the department was awarded $5,000 by the Kentucky Attorney General for continued development and for setting the gold standard for Kentucky peer support program. So I think that's a pretty big deal. I do know that the fire department is also a member of this, and we've received other recognition, but this might be a first for the police department. Is it Chad? Good. Congratulations. 272 01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:48,460 All right, Chief Neiman, you're up. 273 01:08:48,460 --> 01:09:57,860 I'm easy. Uh, I want to congratulate Mickey. Coming back to work. Um, the boat was out for the fireworks Sunday. It was actually one of the better nights for the boat. We only had one run, which was at Fredericks Landing. A couple of brothers, a little too much to drink, and got into a fight, jockeyed for position to get their boat out of the water. So if if that's all that happens on a fireworks night on the river, that's a good night. Yeah. Um. November 20th, Turkey raffle. The guys and girls will be going around here soon, dropping off tickets to everybody's house. I still need to talk to the HOA with the new Fisher development. The other associations allow us to drop the tickets off at the mailboxes, which we've done for several years. Um, hopefully we'll do the same thing with the new development, but they should be out in the next two weeks. So look for those. Those tickets are what helps fund our breakfast with Santa. So if your neighbor says, you know, it is voluntary. So if you leave, if they leave them at your house and you don't want them, call us and we'll pick them up or throw them away. That's it. 274 01:09:57,860 --> 01:12:46,330 All right. Thank you chief. Any questions or comments for Chief Nyman? All right. Well, hearing none, I'll try to go through my list here rather quickly. Um, I do want to mention that I did send the mid-month update out to council earlier. And one thing I always like to do is just make sure that everything I shared with them mid-month has been covered this evening, and anything that has not been addressed, I'd like to mention it. Um, I did meet with um, Jim Parsons and I signed the latest plats for the Fisher development. I just want to make sure everyone is aware that it seems soon they will be starting their construction on the single family homes. So that was just one update that we didn't get to cover. Um, I do want to congratulate Jacob on his promotion to firefighter paramedic. I definitely want to welcome Micky back to the police department. Um, party in the park was another successful event. Um, barring the warm temperatures which made it very hot. But I do want to say thank you to Juanita. All of public works, the police and fire department, everyone that lend a hand. That evening, it was very warm, but I'll tell you, they didn't miss a beat at that event. I want to thank the Historic Society for coming out and setting up a booth. They were able to answer a lot of questions from the individuals that were interested in purchasing a tree this year. Um, the Iron Center also came out and they set up a table and they were able to answer questions about their, their prevention services. I want to thank Barleycorns Larosa's and Chak chak chak chak. That's a mouthful. Sorry. They offered the kayaks for free. So anyway, I think they had a pretty good turnout. Let me also extend my deepest gratitude to Council for performing your statutory duty this evening and setting the comp rate. Um, the business luncheon has been scheduled for October. There will be details to follow. Um, the city's got a very busy September in store. As you heard from Juanita's report. Please come out and join us for these exciting events. Um, I'm very excited about the invitations I continue to get from the HOA to come out and meet with them. So I have one scheduled with Bentwood Hills, and I also have one scheduled with Signal Hill. So thank you for those invitations. And then I wanted to mention that high profile that is the name of the medical marijuana facility. That's their business name is having the ribbon cutting on Friday, September the 25th. So those are all of my updates. So, um, any questions or comments. Otherwise we'll move right into the legislative body. Comments. 275 01:12:46,330 --> 01:13:07,170 So Bob, you want to start us off this evening? S6: 276 01:13:07,170 --> 01:13:09,610 Okay. Thank you. Jim. 277 01:13:09,610 --> 01:13:13,730 Congratulations to Mickey and Jacob, and always thank. 278 01:13:13,730 --> 01:13:32,010 Juanita for all the work she does. And, Terry, I've seen something on there that he's been a busy beaver. So everybody in the city has been doing a great job. Terry, I have a question. 279 01:13:32,010 --> 01:14:04,070 Uh, what are they doing there behind McDonald's and and waffle House? Are they selling dirt or something? S5: 280 01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:05,030 Moving a lot of dirt. 281 01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:05,630 Yeah. 282 01:14:05,630 --> 01:14:07,870 I thought maybe they were selling the dirt or something. 283 01:14:07,870 --> 01:14:25,510 I don't believe he is. I believe he's just trying to create a pad, a building pad there for him now that he's been run out because they can't build under that power line, the tension lines, they can't build and they can't build too close to where the new road is. So he's he's moved over to where they tore the little house down. There were two houses there that he tore down. So I'm. 284 01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:25,710 Just. 285 01:14:25,710 --> 01:14:29,310 Curious. Yeah. 286 01:14:29,310 --> 01:14:37,710 Okay. Thanks, Jim. Sandy, you might want to turn your. Thank you. Look at her. Look at her go. 287 01:14:37,710 --> 01:15:03,650 I just want to say congrats to Mickey and Jacob. I love seeing Mickey come back and and Jacob, he deserves it. He's he's a great guy. Uh, and I want to thank my police department and my fire department for my mess up last Friday. You know what I'm talking about. I just want to acknowledge those two departments. Love them. Thank you. That's it. 288 01:15:03,650 --> 01:15:05,770 All right. Thanks, Andy. 289 01:15:05,770 --> 01:15:08,730 Everybody that works in the city. 290 01:15:08,730 --> 01:15:10,570 All right. Easy. 291 01:15:10,570 --> 01:15:15,530 Um, Jeff, what was the name of the new company that's coming in high? 292 01:15:15,530 --> 01:15:17,450 What high profile? 293 01:15:17,450 --> 01:15:21,130 I just find that absolutely hysterical. High profile for. 294 01:15:21,130 --> 01:15:21,610 A. 295 01:15:21,610 --> 01:15:38,120 Company selling marijuana. I just that was great. Anyway, um. Uh, welcome to the neighborhood. I hope they are very successful here. And, uh, it's good to good to see Mickey come back and be promoted. It was very, very good. That's all. 296 01:15:38,120 --> 01:16:22,080 All right. Well thank you. I did overlook two very important people. It takes a lot to pull this party in the park together. I do have to thank our musicians, Bobby Mackey, for volunteering his time and Taylor Henry for both coming out. They gave a great performance. Again, it was hot for them up there underneath the shelter. But I do want to thank both of them for attending and participating and performing in the party in the park. So with that said, just a reminder, um, on the agenda, it shows the next meeting is Monday the 21st. Please change that to Monday the 28th, Monday, September the 28th. And with that, I'll entertain a motion that we end our. All right. We have a motion to adjourn our meeting. 297 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:22,880 I'll second. 298 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:22,880 We have a second. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Anyone opposed? All right. Motion carried. Have a great evening, everyone.