1 00:00:07,005 --> 00:00:07,825 He is. Got it. Now, 2 00:00:08,745 --> 00:00:10,265 I guess I don't have to ask you in room. 3 00:00:10,335 --> 00:00:13,385 Yeah, yeah. He'll let us know. Okay. We'll call a meeting. 4 00:00:13,405 --> 00:00:14,505 New order for the Monday, 5 00:00:14,555 --> 00:00:16,865 March 30th special select board meeting. 6 00:00:19,105 --> 00:00:22,095 First item is the pledges, you, 7 00:00:27,955 --> 00:00:30,895 The United States of America to the Republic 8 00:00:31,075 --> 00:00:35,175 for which stands, one Nation under God, individual 9 00:00:35,635 --> 00:00:36,735 for liberty and agenda. 10 00:00:42,715 --> 00:00:43,935 And we'll set the agenda. 11 00:00:45,285 --> 00:00:50,035 Does anyone have anything to add or My 12 00:00:50,035 --> 00:00:51,435 Only question, should we do executive session 13 00:00:51,565 --> 00:00:52,875 prior to or post? 14 00:00:53,585 --> 00:00:55,155 Post, post would be okay. Yeah. 15 00:00:55,565 --> 00:00:58,675 We've got David, I'm sorry, David, 16 00:00:58,795 --> 00:01:00,035 I forgot how to pronounce her last name. 17 00:01:00,035 --> 00:01:01,035 Is it Ru? 18 00:01:08,155 --> 00:01:10,085 Yeah, it's David Ru. David 19 00:01:10,145 --> 00:01:11,145 Ru. 20 00:01:11,145 --> 00:01:12,125 Yep. And he is going to 21 00:01:14,675 --> 00:01:16,405 just help us with the fine details. 22 00:01:16,545 --> 00:01:20,125 He prepared all of the, the necessary steps for us tonight 23 00:01:20,125 --> 00:01:23,445 to take, to make sure that we warn the, the bond meeting 24 00:01:23,985 --> 00:01:25,245 the bon boat right this time. 25 00:01:25,465 --> 00:01:27,775 So, so he's on Zoom. 26 00:01:27,955 --> 00:01:30,295 We also have a couple other people on Zoom, Janet Stone 27 00:01:30,295 --> 00:01:31,975 and, and Lauren Buck. 28 00:01:33,115 --> 00:01:34,255 He seems supposed to be here. 29 00:01:35,145 --> 00:01:36,435 He's on Zoom. He's, he's a table. 30 00:01:36,895 --> 00:01:38,035 Oh, he, okay. Yeah. 31 00:01:40,305 --> 00:01:44,875 Reason why we're having this is unknown to slug board 32 00:01:44,935 --> 00:01:46,955 and the Newtown manager, 33 00:01:48,005 --> 00:01:49,515 we've never dealt with bonds before. 34 00:01:50,525 --> 00:01:52,115 There the special requirements 35 00:01:52,135 --> 00:01:54,755 of the bond bank requires for their loans. 36 00:01:56,055 --> 00:01:58,435 And one 'em was, he had 37 00:01:58,435 --> 00:02:01,435 to have an advertised newspaper five weeks right? 38 00:02:01,655 --> 00:02:03,795 At a time or before the vote. 39 00:02:04,625 --> 00:02:08,115 Yeah. It's state law. Excuse me. 40 00:02:08,115 --> 00:02:12,515 State law requires that the, the warning of this meeting 41 00:02:12,525 --> 00:02:16,555 where you're voting on bonds be published 42 00:02:17,655 --> 00:02:22,595 for three weeks on the same day in three consecutive weeks. 43 00:02:23,495 --> 00:02:24,995 And that it, 44 00:02:24,995 --> 00:02:28,835 the warning be posted in five places in the town. 45 00:02:29,255 --> 00:02:30,955 And that's a little different than 46 00:02:31,495 --> 00:02:33,395 annual meeting warnings when you only have 47 00:02:33,395 --> 00:02:35,875 to post 'em in three places, if I'm remembering correctly. 48 00:02:36,055 --> 00:02:38,555 So what happened was we didn't, 49 00:02:39,535 --> 00:02:41,475 we didn't follow the correct procedure 50 00:02:42,335 --> 00:02:44,955 to notice bond vote. 51 00:02:45,575 --> 00:02:49,075 And unfortunately that's one of those errors in process 52 00:02:49,385 --> 00:02:51,115 that cannot just be corrected 53 00:02:51,175 --> 00:02:52,955 by resolution of the select board. 54 00:02:55,145 --> 00:02:58,715 Well, we did, we did send mailers out 55 00:02:58,715 --> 00:03:00,965 to everyone in town about the vote 56 00:03:01,785 --> 00:03:03,485 and what was about, what it was about. 57 00:03:03,885 --> 00:03:07,045 I guess that doesn't count. So here we are. 58 00:03:09,345 --> 00:03:13,685 So how you want us, 59 00:03:13,685 --> 00:03:15,045 you wanna go through it? 60 00:03:16,435 --> 00:03:18,165 Tell us what we need to do or? 61 00:03:18,835 --> 00:03:19,965 Sure, sure. 62 00:03:20,185 --> 00:03:23,085 So, you know, there's, there's procedural requirements 63 00:03:23,145 --> 00:03:26,885 and then there's, there's what the bond bank likes to see. 64 00:03:26,945 --> 00:03:31,245 And there are, there's also, there's what the law requires 65 00:03:31,245 --> 00:03:32,885 and we've sort of wrapped them all in. 66 00:03:33,265 --> 00:03:35,925 The procedural requirements are a little bit different. 67 00:03:36,105 --> 00:03:40,565 But as I said, you know, we're gonna have a bond. 68 00:03:40,615 --> 00:03:43,045 We're planning to have a special town meeting to 69 00:03:43,755 --> 00:03:46,245 vote on whether this in the, 70 00:03:46,305 --> 00:03:49,045 the town should incur the million dollars of indebtedness 71 00:03:49,045 --> 00:03:52,525 for these road upgrades and improvements. 72 00:03:54,025 --> 00:03:56,885 The warning of that special town meeting needs 73 00:03:56,885 --> 00:03:59,565 to be published on the same day of the week 74 00:04:00,105 --> 00:04:02,605 for three consecutive weeks with the last date, 75 00:04:03,065 --> 00:04:05,205 not more than 10, 76 00:04:05,265 --> 00:04:07,525 and not less than five days before the meeting. 77 00:04:07,705 --> 00:04:10,405 So if we're talking about a special meeting on Wednesday, 78 00:04:10,505 --> 00:04:12,845 May 8th, the last day 79 00:04:12,845 --> 00:04:15,085 of publication should be probably 80 00:04:15,485 --> 00:04:17,965 Thursday, April 30th. 81 00:04:17,985 --> 00:04:20,245 And I, I can't remember, I don't know if you guys use the 82 00:04:20,245 --> 00:04:22,165 Times Argus or, or something else. 83 00:04:22,225 --> 00:04:23,845 And I can't remember what day it comes out, 84 00:04:23,945 --> 00:04:27,085 but if the Times Argus is Thursday, like I remember, 85 00:04:27,105 --> 00:04:29,325 you should publish the warning 86 00:04:29,345 --> 00:04:33,285 of the special meeting on the 16th, 23rd and 30th of April. 87 00:04:34,025 --> 00:04:36,005 And then you also have to post 88 00:04:36,745 --> 00:04:38,725 the warning in five public places 89 00:04:39,545 --> 00:04:41,165 at least two weeks before the meeting. 90 00:04:41,905 --> 00:04:44,445 And then you will need 91 00:04:44,445 --> 00:04:48,525 to have a public informational meeting, typically 92 00:04:48,595 --> 00:04:50,125 with a couple days before the meeting. 93 00:04:50,145 --> 00:04:53,285 And that's called for here in this resolution, 94 00:04:54,045 --> 00:04:56,005 because it's an Australian ballot vote. 95 00:04:56,745 --> 00:04:59,325 All Australian ballot votes on public questions 96 00:04:59,705 --> 00:05:02,365 or indebtedness, need to have a public informational hearing 97 00:05:04,145 --> 00:05:05,525 within a few days of the vote. 98 00:05:05,705 --> 00:05:08,765 So that's the procedure 99 00:05:10,155 --> 00:05:11,775 On that public hearing. 100 00:05:12,875 --> 00:05:15,255 The way our TV coverage is set up, 101 00:05:16,135 --> 00:05:18,995 if we had the meeting on a Monday, people wouldn't see it 102 00:05:19,575 --> 00:05:21,035 on TV until Thursday. 103 00:05:21,415 --> 00:05:23,235 The, the vote would be on a Wednesday. 104 00:05:23,415 --> 00:05:26,315 So is it possible to do it the Monday before 105 00:05:26,455 --> 00:05:27,755 or is that too far ahead? 106 00:05:29,975 --> 00:05:34,235 One second. We'd be about, about 107 00:05:35,185 --> 00:05:38,035 nine days before the actual vote we did that. 108 00:05:42,505 --> 00:05:44,805 The public informational hearing needs 109 00:05:44,805 --> 00:05:47,645 to be at least 10 days in advance. 110 00:05:48,915 --> 00:05:53,125 Okay. So if you wanna do it on Monday the 111 00:05:53,125 --> 00:05:57,855 27th, you need to, 112 00:05:58,435 --> 00:06:00,455 you, you need to change the resolution 113 00:06:00,485 --> 00:06:05,445 that you're gonna vote on tonight in the second 114 00:06:05,625 --> 00:06:10,215 to last, be it further resolved on page one. 115 00:06:10,395 --> 00:06:14,975 So, so that says one day April 27, not May four. 116 00:06:16,595 --> 00:06:20,685 Okay. That's the only way 117 00:06:20,685 --> 00:06:21,845 people are gonna see it on tv. 118 00:06:22,435 --> 00:06:24,845 Yeah, it's fine by me. Yeah. Okay. 119 00:06:25,175 --> 00:06:29,545 April 27th, a April 27th is what you said? 120 00:06:30,085 --> 00:06:31,225 Yep. That's, 121 00:06:31,225 --> 00:06:35,945 and then you also have to change the last paragraph of 122 00:06:35,975 --> 00:06:39,025 that draft warning we sub submitted to you 123 00:06:40,345 --> 00:06:41,645 of the special town meeting. 124 00:06:41,925 --> 00:06:43,605 'cause that in the last paragraph says 125 00:06:43,605 --> 00:06:45,045 Monday, May 4th as well. 126 00:06:45,905 --> 00:06:49,715 Gotcha. Well 127 00:06:56,545 --> 00:06:57,275 skip a question, 128 00:06:58,505 --> 00:07:00,525 But what you'll see is we combine the notice 129 00:07:00,665 --> 00:07:02,805 of the special town meeting with the notice 130 00:07:02,865 --> 00:07:04,365 of the public informational hearing. 131 00:07:04,825 --> 00:07:07,605 So all you have to do is publish that one warning 132 00:07:08,305 --> 00:07:11,205 and post that one warning in five places. 133 00:07:11,305 --> 00:07:12,405 And you will have complied 134 00:07:12,405 --> 00:07:15,325 with all the statutory requirements killing a couple birds 135 00:07:15,325 --> 00:07:16,365 with one stone there. 136 00:07:18,155 --> 00:07:20,455 So aside from, 137 00:07:20,595 --> 00:07:23,215 if there's no other questions on the procedure stuff 138 00:07:25,635 --> 00:07:27,125 From the for staff, 139 00:07:27,445 --> 00:07:29,285 I, I'm Barbara Graham, I'm the town clerk. 140 00:07:29,565 --> 00:07:34,005 I, so we, we don't have to follow the same protocol 141 00:07:34,005 --> 00:07:35,085 as we did for town meeting. 142 00:07:35,245 --> 00:07:38,725 I can hold the vote on a Wednesday versus a Tuesday 143 00:07:39,665 --> 00:07:42,165 and the hours don't have to be from 10 to seven. 144 00:07:42,465 --> 00:07:45,445 It could be at my, you know, either eight to seven or 145 00:07:47,955 --> 00:07:49,455 On the, on the first part. 146 00:07:49,455 --> 00:07:50,455 Yeah. It doesn't matter 147 00:07:50,455 --> 00:07:52,735 what day you hold the meeting On the second part, 148 00:07:53,445 --> 00:07:55,335 what they're approving tonight contains 149 00:07:55,335 --> 00:07:56,415 the hours for the vote. 150 00:07:56,515 --> 00:07:59,455 So they, they have those in the warning as 10 to seven. 151 00:08:00,475 --> 00:08:02,735 If you want that to change, you gotta change it now. 152 00:08:03,595 --> 00:08:04,775 No, I, I'm fine with that. 153 00:08:04,895 --> 00:08:08,215 I just didn't know if we needed to go by the same protocols 154 00:08:08,365 --> 00:08:10,015 that we do on town meeting together. 155 00:08:10,685 --> 00:08:13,375 Yeah, this is a special town meeting, so you're not bound 156 00:08:13,435 --> 00:08:16,895 by the annual meeting first Tuesday in March kind of thing. 157 00:08:17,805 --> 00:08:21,305 Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. 158 00:08:22,165 --> 00:08:24,975 Yep. Yeah, 159 00:08:24,975 --> 00:08:27,335 this is your last opportunity here to change the hours. 160 00:08:27,395 --> 00:08:31,095 If you don't like 10 to seven, we gotta change it, but, 161 00:08:34,005 --> 00:08:35,005 Okay. 162 00:08:35,005 --> 00:08:38,555 So probably have you make the, 163 00:08:39,915 --> 00:08:42,295 if you run over and make the necessary changes on this 164 00:08:42,315 --> 00:08:43,775 so we can sign it all tonight 165 00:08:44,675 --> 00:08:47,785 and change the date, those dates. 166 00:08:48,245 --> 00:08:49,665 Yep. We can do that. Any, 167 00:08:49,805 --> 00:08:52,305 any other changes Barbara or Anthony can think of? 168 00:08:52,925 --> 00:08:56,765 No, the only, the only other thing is can we do it, 169 00:08:57,785 --> 00:09:00,685 you know, as far as the paper ballot, instead 170 00:09:00,685 --> 00:09:03,925 of using the tabulator as I'll be just coming off from a, 171 00:09:04,645 --> 00:09:07,005 a revote from the school with a tabulator. 172 00:09:07,505 --> 00:09:09,565 So I was thinking of just do it at the old fashioned way. 173 00:09:09,565 --> 00:09:11,165 We, you drop the ballot in the box 174 00:09:11,425 --> 00:09:14,365 and we, we count 'em at the end of the night, yes or no. 175 00:09:15,405 --> 00:09:18,345 So what the select board is approving tonight is a 176 00:09:18,375 --> 00:09:19,505 form of ballot. 177 00:09:20,125 --> 00:09:23,905 You have that in your paperwork that is a piece of paper. 178 00:09:24,085 --> 00:09:26,665 And on that piece of paper, there are two check boxes. 179 00:09:27,645 --> 00:09:30,385 It says, if you are in favor of the bond issuance, 180 00:09:30,485 --> 00:09:31,625 you check in this box. 181 00:09:32,605 --> 00:09:35,905 If you are not in favor of the bond issue, 182 00:09:35,965 --> 00:09:37,145 you check in that box. 183 00:09:37,685 --> 00:09:40,345 If you do not need to use the tabulator, 184 00:09:42,765 --> 00:09:46,225 but you should use this ballot form. 185 00:09:46,405 --> 00:09:48,465 If you are going to use a paper ballot 186 00:09:49,265 --> 00:09:50,265 That that's fine. 187 00:09:50,275 --> 00:09:51,795 I just assume do it that way. 188 00:09:51,935 --> 00:09:53,555 And like I said, the week 189 00:09:53,555 --> 00:09:57,315 before, we have a rebo on the school amount, 190 00:09:57,495 --> 00:09:59,155 so, okay. 191 00:09:59,155 --> 00:10:00,435 That, that's perfect. Thank you. 192 00:10:00,905 --> 00:10:03,915 Yeah. So You could do it either way with a tabulator 193 00:10:03,915 --> 00:10:05,555 or with a paper ballot like this. 194 00:10:05,555 --> 00:10:06,995 Correct. Right. 195 00:10:08,295 --> 00:10:11,995 But it's, it's, it's Australian ballot voting. 196 00:10:12,655 --> 00:10:15,155 So it's not like people walk up to the front of the room 197 00:10:15,155 --> 00:10:17,435 with a little slip of paper and drop it in a box. 198 00:10:18,025 --> 00:10:20,515 It's people have seven, have eight hours to vote 199 00:10:20,935 --> 00:10:23,675 and each person fills out one of these ballot forms, 200 00:10:24,165 --> 00:10:26,755 drops it in a box, and it all gets counted later on 201 00:10:26,755 --> 00:10:27,955 at the end of the voting. 202 00:10:28,535 --> 00:10:30,835 Not like a floor vote meeting where people come up 203 00:10:30,835 --> 00:10:32,795 with a little slip of paper, drop it in a box, 204 00:10:33,105 --> 00:10:35,755 gets counted immediately, and you announce the results. 205 00:10:35,815 --> 00:10:39,955 That's not that, that's not an Australian ballot vote. 206 00:10:40,665 --> 00:10:42,955 That latter situation's more like a floor vote 207 00:10:42,955 --> 00:10:44,675 where if someone moved for a paper ballot, 208 00:10:46,505 --> 00:10:47,685 you understand the difference? 209 00:10:48,735 --> 00:10:49,895 I do, yes, I do. 210 00:10:53,755 --> 00:10:55,615 Anyone else have any questions for him? 211 00:10:56,295 --> 00:10:58,975 I was gonna say, I, I'm sure we've discussed time, 212 00:10:59,035 --> 00:11:00,495 but we can't do the vote on the 213 00:11:00,495 --> 00:11:01,575 same day as the school budget. 214 00:11:01,755 --> 00:11:04,335 I'm assuming. I don't, so timing won't work 215 00:11:04,925 --> 00:11:07,175 because I just figured that would have more voters. Yeah. 216 00:11:07,475 --> 00:11:10,375 Oh Yeah. You gotta have this warned between 30 217 00:11:10,395 --> 00:11:11,735 and 40 days in advance. 218 00:11:12,115 --> 00:11:14,255 So we don't have enough time. 219 00:11:15,475 --> 00:11:16,895 We never even did have enough time, 220 00:11:17,965 --> 00:11:19,215 even last week if we were 221 00:11:19,215 --> 00:11:20,815 to warn it in time for the school vote. 222 00:11:20,955 --> 00:11:21,955 So, 223 00:11:22,315 --> 00:11:23,935 And I don't have to hold it in the school, 224 00:11:24,055 --> 00:11:26,215 I can hold it here in the public safety building. 225 00:11:26,965 --> 00:11:29,175 Correct. You can hold it anywhere. 226 00:11:29,175 --> 00:11:30,375 You're warning it to be held. 227 00:11:30,395 --> 00:11:31,455 And that's, we're warning it 228 00:11:31,455 --> 00:11:33,015 to be held at the public safety building. 229 00:11:33,795 --> 00:11:36,845 Sounds like a plan. Yes. 230 00:11:39,785 --> 00:11:42,045 So other than the procedural requirements, 231 00:11:43,475 --> 00:11:45,515 I wanna make sure the select board knows this is a, 232 00:11:45,515 --> 00:11:47,875 so we have to do this necessity resolution. 233 00:11:48,575 --> 00:11:50,315 We have to pass this resolution. 234 00:11:50,375 --> 00:11:54,025 And what this says is basically 235 00:11:54,535 --> 00:11:57,785 that the project is necessary for the town. 236 00:11:57,785 --> 00:11:59,545 It doesn't have to be strictly necessary, 237 00:11:59,805 --> 00:12:03,625 but it necessary in the sense of like laying out a road, 238 00:12:03,685 --> 00:12:04,745 the same kind of standard, 239 00:12:05,485 --> 00:12:08,865 and that the expenses of the project, 240 00:12:09,075 --> 00:12:13,545 which is a capital improvement, are too great to be paid out 241 00:12:13,545 --> 00:12:15,945 of the ordinary expenses of the town. 242 00:12:17,355 --> 00:12:20,555 And the remainder of this resolution 243 00:12:22,145 --> 00:12:26,695 lists the costs and describes the procedure for voting 244 00:12:27,995 --> 00:12:32,975 and then says, you know, if the vote is passed, 245 00:12:34,105 --> 00:12:37,045 we can issue the, the, the town can issue the bonds 246 00:12:37,225 --> 00:12:40,125 to fund commencement of the project. 247 00:12:41,085 --> 00:12:43,245 I think if you've worked with the bond bank 248 00:12:43,245 --> 00:12:46,685 before, you know that it's a, it is not just the town 249 00:12:46,685 --> 00:12:48,005 that issues its bond. 250 00:12:48,105 --> 00:12:49,445 It is done like a loan 251 00:12:49,445 --> 00:12:52,885 because the bond bank pools all the bonds from towns 252 00:12:53,235 --> 00:12:55,845 that have been passed in the last six or so months 253 00:12:56,425 --> 00:12:57,965 and goes to the market with those. 254 00:12:57,985 --> 00:12:59,325 And it's technically a loan. 255 00:12:59,505 --> 00:13:03,485 So you don't have 20 town Vermont towns going 256 00:13:03,485 --> 00:13:05,685 to the bond market with separate bonds. 257 00:13:05,685 --> 00:13:06,925 You get a much better rate 258 00:13:07,345 --> 00:13:10,045 and deal when the bond bank pools them all together. 259 00:13:10,745 --> 00:13:12,245 But the prerequisite 260 00:13:12,585 --> 00:13:15,845 to holding the vote is the select board finding 261 00:13:15,955 --> 00:13:17,525 that the project is necessary 262 00:13:18,065 --> 00:13:21,525 and that the costs are too great to be paid out of the 263 00:13:22,365 --> 00:13:23,365 ordinary income, revenue 264 00:13:23,505 --> 00:13:25,365 and available resources of the town. 265 00:13:25,385 --> 00:13:29,645 So you need to go out to, to incur the indebtedness. 266 00:13:30,425 --> 00:13:33,685 And I, I don't usually read the resolution. 267 00:13:33,835 --> 00:13:37,685 Instead, you know, the resolution incorporates the form 268 00:13:37,685 --> 00:13:39,965 of ballot as well as the warning 269 00:13:40,585 --> 00:13:45,125 and by a, a motion to approve the necessity resolution 270 00:13:45,225 --> 00:13:49,245 for capital improvements that takes care of that. 271 00:13:49,305 --> 00:13:53,245 And then I would suggest you have one more motion 272 00:13:53,345 --> 00:13:55,965 to approve the warning of the special town meeting for 273 00:13:57,345 --> 00:14:02,125 May 8th and, and leave it at that, I'm sorry, May 6th. 274 00:14:05,665 --> 00:14:07,505 I assume that there's a 30 day appeal 275 00:14:07,505 --> 00:14:09,025 period with this as well? 276 00:14:10,565 --> 00:14:12,175 That is correct. 277 00:14:12,345 --> 00:14:16,055 There is a rescission period after the vote. 278 00:14:18,275 --> 00:14:20,335 We have timed this so 279 00:14:20,335 --> 00:14:22,815 that in all likelihood you'll still be able 280 00:14:22,815 --> 00:14:25,535 to make the summer bond pool with the bond bank 281 00:14:25,765 --> 00:14:28,535 because their final meeting isn't 282 00:14:28,535 --> 00:14:29,895 until the very end of June. 283 00:14:30,515 --> 00:14:33,295 So even with the, the vote will become final 284 00:14:34,355 --> 00:14:36,815 on June 7th, or sorry, June 5th. 285 00:14:37,395 --> 00:14:38,695 And then you'll still have time 286 00:14:38,695 --> 00:14:40,855 to get materials into the summer bond pool. 287 00:14:41,655 --> 00:14:45,575 So we can sell the bonds in probably early August. 288 00:14:46,965 --> 00:14:50,615 Okay. Anybody else have any 289 00:14:50,815 --> 00:14:53,865 questions? The, 290 00:14:53,885 --> 00:14:56,265 The only question I have on the resolution here was 291 00:14:57,655 --> 00:15:00,185 when we had discussed the length of it was 90 days 292 00:15:01,005 --> 00:15:02,225 and this just puts July 293 00:15:02,225 --> 00:15:05,105 and August on there, the anticipated construction. 294 00:15:05,735 --> 00:15:09,545 Yeah. We may be wanna change that from July to September. 295 00:15:09,785 --> 00:15:10,785 September. September. 296 00:15:13,495 --> 00:15:15,155 So July two, September 297 00:15:17,445 --> 00:15:18,905 of the end. Yep. 298 00:15:19,865 --> 00:15:22,985 What we'll do is Ryan will go back 299 00:15:22,985 --> 00:15:24,345 to the town office, make these changes. 300 00:15:24,445 --> 00:15:26,625 So we have a clean thing to sign tonight 301 00:15:26,725 --> 00:15:27,745 so we can get the ball rolling. 302 00:15:28,525 --> 00:15:31,705 So that sound like log the wing to do. 303 00:15:32,455 --> 00:15:35,385 Yeah. Then I would, I would say the motion should be 304 00:15:35,385 --> 00:15:38,025 motion to approve the necessity resolution 305 00:15:39,765 --> 00:15:42,905 for the $1 million in road improvements as amended. 306 00:15:45,495 --> 00:15:45,715 Yep. 307 00:15:49,835 --> 00:15:53,525 Well, I think we're all set. 308 00:15:53,575 --> 00:15:54,965 Thank you very much for your help. 309 00:15:55,935 --> 00:15:57,675 You're welcome. Don't forget to move 310 00:15:57,675 --> 00:16:00,035 to approve the warning for the special town meeting 311 00:16:00,055 --> 00:16:01,275 and get that signed as well. 312 00:16:02,335 --> 00:16:05,415 Yep. Great. 313 00:16:06,265 --> 00:16:07,375 Thank you. Thank 314 00:16:07,375 --> 00:16:08,375 You. 315 00:16:08,375 --> 00:16:09,295 Thank you everybody have a good night. 316 00:16:09,785 --> 00:16:10,785 Thank You. 317 00:16:15,455 --> 00:16:17,455 I think we need to, we can take a 318 00:16:17,455 --> 00:16:18,735 recess and let you go do that. 319 00:16:19,485 --> 00:16:21,655 Okay. So we can get some 320 00:16:22,435 --> 00:16:23,815 and then, we'll, we're gonna go 321 00:16:23,815 --> 00:16:25,255 to the executive session afterwards. 322 00:16:25,315 --> 00:16:26,855 So it's pretty much the end of this meeting 323 00:16:26,995 --> 00:16:30,055 unless somebody does it that you'd like to discuss it. 324 00:16:34,165 --> 00:16:36,825 You could, you could probably go do that. We're talk. It's 325 00:16:37,735 --> 00:16:38,735 Okay. 326 00:16:38,735 --> 00:16:39,305 Well if you're recessing, 327 00:16:39,385 --> 00:16:42,065 I would stop recording is all I would do 328 00:16:43,395 --> 00:16:44,395 The question first. 329 00:16:44,395 --> 00:16:44,935 Okay. 330 00:16:45,875 --> 00:16:48,295 So we're specifically talking tonight, 331 00:16:48,375 --> 00:16:50,215 I realize about the road bond, 332 00:16:50,275 --> 00:16:53,095 but what about the other resolution for the audit 333 00:16:53,095 --> 00:16:57,975 that was also not properly warned at the town meeting 334 00:16:58,155 --> 00:17:00,335 and placed on a Australian ballot? 335 00:17:06,165 --> 00:17:10,685 So you're the, you're, you have brought that up right now. 336 00:17:10,765 --> 00:17:13,655 I think someone else had mentioned it to me, the debate 337 00:17:14,325 --> 00:17:17,585 and talked just honestly, so he notified me 338 00:17:18,615 --> 00:17:21,575 that What year was it? 339 00:17:21,575 --> 00:17:24,215 Just so I can be ntroduce Sorry, stop. 340 00:17:24,865 --> 00:17:27,655 Sorry. I know I, Ben Moffett, I'm a resident of town. 341 00:17:28,435 --> 00:17:30,815 So the year that the ambulance got taken over, 342 00:17:30,815 --> 00:17:33,495 that was the specific year of town meeting that the voters 343 00:17:34,045 --> 00:17:35,935 said any budget issue needs to be 344 00:17:36,875 --> 00:17:38,735 on the floor, not on the ballot. 345 00:17:40,055 --> 00:17:44,045 So by moving the audit vote 346 00:17:44,185 --> 00:17:47,565 to the ballot that essentially potentially, 347 00:17:47,665 --> 00:17:50,075 or has potential to have gone against 348 00:17:50,305 --> 00:17:51,795 what the voters voted for. 349 00:17:53,525 --> 00:17:55,705 Now I, I guess, well, I'm sorry. 350 00:17:55,865 --> 00:17:58,225 I guess I didn't understand that to be that way. 351 00:17:58,345 --> 00:18:01,465 I knew there was an article on that year 352 00:18:02,055 --> 00:18:03,545 that it was put out there 353 00:18:03,545 --> 00:18:07,965 and approved by the board that could we put all articles 354 00:18:08,425 --> 00:18:12,045 on Australia ballot for here future has 355 00:18:12,045 --> 00:18:14,525 to be voted on the floor by the voters. 356 00:18:15,515 --> 00:18:20,465 It was, it was failed. The voters didn't want all articles. 357 00:18:21,005 --> 00:18:24,345 But I didn't realize that included any special articles. 358 00:18:24,425 --> 00:18:25,585 I didn't get that at all. 359 00:18:25,745 --> 00:18:28,945 I know all bond votes by law have 360 00:18:28,945 --> 00:18:31,105 to be done this way. 361 00:18:31,355 --> 00:18:34,385 Right. But I didn't realize any special, 362 00:18:34,455 --> 00:18:36,305 like the forensic being a special 363 00:18:39,395 --> 00:18:41,765 vote that that had to be included 364 00:18:42,075 --> 00:18:46,285 because we've always had articles like the a TV vote 365 00:18:46,955 --> 00:18:51,525 that was, that was an article that was, we, 366 00:18:51,585 --> 00:18:52,765 we warned a special meeting. 367 00:18:53,025 --> 00:18:54,125 We had it, it was here. 368 00:18:54,185 --> 00:18:58,515 And, and so it, it wasn't discussed. 369 00:18:59,305 --> 00:19:02,685 It was you guys agreed to either adopt or whatever and 370 00:19:02,685 --> 00:19:03,725 and approve 371 00:19:03,955 --> 00:19:05,285 Dealing with the bond bank. 372 00:19:05,755 --> 00:19:07,765 This is the only way it could be done by us 373 00:19:07,935 --> 00:19:08,935 About. 374 00:19:08,935 --> 00:19:10,765 Yeah, he's not asking about that though. We Well 375 00:19:10,965 --> 00:19:12,085 I am asking about that too. 376 00:19:12,265 --> 00:19:13,845 I'm sorry I walked in a little late, I apologize. 377 00:19:14,605 --> 00:19:15,645 I don't mean to drag this out, 378 00:19:15,705 --> 00:19:16,845 but what's the statute, 379 00:19:17,025 --> 00:19:19,485 you guys have statutory reference for that bond date? 380 00:19:19,705 --> 00:19:22,485 The necessity resolution that was mentioned by the, 381 00:19:22,825 --> 00:19:24,165 I'm assuming that was the town attorney? 382 00:19:24,505 --> 00:19:28,085 Yes. Yes. It's in here. He's a bond bank attorney. 383 00:19:28,275 --> 00:19:32,525 Okay. And in this official warning 384 00:19:32,695 --> 00:19:33,695 State of Vermont. 385 00:19:33,745 --> 00:19:34,745 And it does, 386 00:19:35,965 --> 00:19:38,565 I mean it'll be writing in chapter 43, 51 and 55 387 00:19:38,565 --> 00:19:40,245 and Title 17 Vermont sent you Title 388 00:19:40,525 --> 00:19:43,405 17 43, 51 And 55. 389 00:19:43,635 --> 00:19:44,635 Okay, 390 00:19:46,215 --> 00:19:47,215 Thank you. 391 00:19:48,565 --> 00:19:51,645 I do. And Also the 392 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:57,205 ne necessity resolution also says chapter 53 393 00:19:57,205 --> 00:19:58,325 of Title 24. 394 00:20:10,835 --> 00:20:13,055 But it was not my impression 395 00:20:13,055 --> 00:20:15,335 that anytime you wanted a certain article that 396 00:20:15,945 --> 00:20:19,535 everything had to be voted on the floor like the A QB vote 397 00:20:19,915 --> 00:20:23,375 was vote like we're gonna do for the bomb vote. 398 00:20:23,955 --> 00:20:27,255 We did it here. A piece of paper was just no, 399 00:20:27,255 --> 00:20:28,615 we kinda did it at the end of the night. 400 00:20:28,715 --> 00:20:32,215 It was one of the biggest turnout votes we ever had. 401 00:20:32,515 --> 00:20:37,495 So, so I didn't realize that 402 00:20:38,235 --> 00:20:42,425 it was for any future questions. 403 00:20:43,495 --> 00:20:46,155 It was whether to put whether 404 00:20:46,155 --> 00:20:49,015 to make Australian ballot in the future 405 00:20:49,435 --> 00:20:54,125 for all articles do away with discussing it on the floor. 406 00:20:54,885 --> 00:20:58,005 I did not realize it was all articles 407 00:20:58,695 --> 00:21:02,725 Would be so way to look into for next get clarify. 408 00:21:05,145 --> 00:21:08,325 So Yeah, so generally speaking, anytime, you know, 409 00:21:08,455 --> 00:21:12,765 title 17, chapter 55, we conduct business in the town 410 00:21:12,765 --> 00:21:15,485 of Williamstown by traditional town meeting. 411 00:21:15,675 --> 00:21:17,805 Yeah. Anytime you want to bring something 412 00:21:18,145 --> 00:21:20,085 or move something to an Australian ballot, 413 00:21:20,265 --> 00:21:22,165 you need prior voter approval to do that. 414 00:21:22,415 --> 00:21:26,765 Right. So, and then once that approval is given, it is good 415 00:21:26,945 --> 00:21:29,725 for until they decide to overturn it. 416 00:21:30,345 --> 00:21:32,605 And that goes for budgetary items, that goes 417 00:21:32,605 --> 00:21:33,885 for election of officers. 418 00:21:33,945 --> 00:21:35,565 That's right on down the board. 419 00:21:35,985 --> 00:21:39,285 And so my question for the board at the meeting was 420 00:21:40,285 --> 00:21:44,345 we just arbitrarily decided to move that, that article 421 00:21:45,285 --> 00:21:47,865 to the Australian ballot as well as bongo, 422 00:21:47,935 --> 00:21:50,185 there's another statute requiring the bongo 423 00:21:50,285 --> 00:21:53,025 to trigger an Australian ballot or a paper ballot. 424 00:21:53,205 --> 00:21:54,785 It sounds like talking to him, it can, 425 00:21:54,785 --> 00:21:56,385 doesn't necessarily have to be Australian, 426 00:21:56,385 --> 00:21:58,105 but it does need to be a paper type ballot. 427 00:21:59,165 --> 00:22:01,705 So that's what I'm requesting clarification on. 428 00:22:02,295 --> 00:22:04,105 Yeah, well From he did clarify 429 00:22:04,135 --> 00:22:05,985 that it can't be just a drop in piece 430 00:22:05,985 --> 00:22:07,025 of paper that could tell me. 431 00:22:07,195 --> 00:22:08,545 Right. It can't be a floor vote. 432 00:22:08,885 --> 00:22:10,585 You can't have someone make a motion to call 433 00:22:10,605 --> 00:22:11,865 for a paper vote on the floor. 434 00:22:11,925 --> 00:22:14,985 It does have to be an actual ballot, formal ballot, 435 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:16,505 which you guys have in front of you. But yeah. 436 00:22:17,015 --> 00:22:19,545 Yeah, I think when I talked, I talked to Ryan, he said 437 00:22:19,545 --> 00:22:22,105 that the statute for bonds is, it has to be 438 00:22:22,725 --> 00:22:25,785 the ballot thing, but I'm pretty sure you are correct 439 00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:27,425 and I think it was just, we didn't, 440 00:22:27,805 --> 00:22:29,025 we didn't know this. So how are we remedy, 441 00:22:29,655 --> 00:22:30,945 What, what are we doing about that? 442 00:22:31,265 --> 00:22:33,305 I don't, we haven't had a chance to discuss that yet. 443 00:22:33,415 --> 00:22:36,665 Okay. Yeah. For the, for the audit. 444 00:22:37,995 --> 00:22:40,085 Yeah. I think probably the best thing, 445 00:22:40,275 --> 00:22:42,965 because I will be honest, I'm not the most legal person, 446 00:22:43,025 --> 00:22:44,325 but I would probably have to be reaching out 447 00:22:44,325 --> 00:22:46,845 to the town attorney to see what the process is. 448 00:22:48,235 --> 00:22:49,735 So when the town manager, 449 00:22:49,735 --> 00:22:52,015 because he has contact with the attorney, 450 00:22:52,085 --> 00:22:54,535 that will be something that we will vote on 451 00:22:54,535 --> 00:22:56,495 or don necessarily have to vote on tonight. 452 00:22:56,495 --> 00:22:58,215 But request that, what's the 453 00:22:59,375 --> 00:23:02,155 attorney's take on that? 454 00:23:02,335 --> 00:23:03,335 What's the legal 455 00:23:06,375 --> 00:23:09,875 Opinions Different animal than where our normal 456 00:23:11,195 --> 00:23:15,775 coming day budgets were for the one year deal partialed out 457 00:23:15,775 --> 00:23:18,175 between the highway department and general fund 458 00:23:18,175 --> 00:23:20,495 and ambulance and fire trucks. And, and no, I 459 00:23:20,495 --> 00:23:21,855 Understand, understand the rationale. 460 00:23:22,065 --> 00:23:24,255 Larry and I and I, I certainly can appreciate 461 00:23:24,255 --> 00:23:25,655 giving more people. 462 00:23:26,125 --> 00:23:27,855 This isn't because I'm disappointed in 463 00:23:27,855 --> 00:23:28,895 the outcome or anything like that. 464 00:23:29,005 --> 00:23:30,935 It's just that it needs to be done legally. Yep. 465 00:23:30,955 --> 00:23:32,455 And that's, that's my only point. 466 00:23:32,855 --> 00:23:36,255 Regardless of the outcome, the people decided in 2024 467 00:23:36,285 --> 00:23:39,055 that we want to, we want to do business in the town 468 00:23:39,055 --> 00:23:41,455 of Williamstown on the wall at the old fashioned way. 469 00:23:41,595 --> 00:23:43,015 And there's, there's value in that. 470 00:23:43,015 --> 00:23:44,735 There's some people that may argue the other way 471 00:23:44,735 --> 00:23:46,925 that they don't wanna do it that way 'cause it didn't work. 472 00:23:48,145 --> 00:23:49,685 Who have to work to come out and vote. 473 00:23:49,985 --> 00:23:51,485 But I just wanna make sure it's done legally 474 00:23:51,595 --> 00:23:52,965 Talking about the old fashioned way. 475 00:23:53,285 --> 00:23:54,365 Anything we've ever bonded 476 00:23:54,365 --> 00:23:55,605 before has done been done 477 00:23:55,605 --> 00:23:58,325 by Australian ballot water tank, which sort land. 478 00:23:58,825 --> 00:24:00,205 And he's not worried about the bond though. 479 00:24:00,205 --> 00:24:02,725 This, this building. He's 480 00:24:02,725 --> 00:24:04,965 Not concerned about the bond vote necessarily hiring, 481 00:24:05,395 --> 00:24:07,165 there's a different legal process when we're 482 00:24:07,165 --> 00:24:09,285 as a town signing on the dotted line to borrow money 483 00:24:09,915 --> 00:24:11,205 that there has to be a different process. 484 00:24:11,445 --> 00:24:12,525 I get that. I'm just saying 485 00:24:12,525 --> 00:24:15,005 that in general, there's a process. 486 00:24:15,225 --> 00:24:17,205 We didn't follow it. So now what are we gonna do? 487 00:24:17,425 --> 00:24:19,005 So I would just ask you guys 488 00:24:19,025 --> 00:24:20,765 to contemplate that amongst yourselves. 489 00:24:20,835 --> 00:24:22,325 Talk to the town attorney. Yep. 490 00:24:22,565 --> 00:24:23,685 I have filed a complaint with 491 00:24:23,685 --> 00:24:24,845 the Secretary of State's office. 492 00:24:25,385 --> 00:24:28,125 You guys are in copy of that. It was sent to you. 493 00:24:28,385 --> 00:24:31,725 So I one sent to me, it was sent to the town. Okay. 494 00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:33,765 Sent to the town. Okay. Sorry. I have not received. 495 00:24:33,905 --> 00:24:35,725 So you guys can hash that out. 496 00:24:35,725 --> 00:24:38,405 However, it may land is CAFO end and Yep. 497 00:24:38,905 --> 00:24:42,165 The way it was worded is, is you're probably correct on 498 00:24:42,165 --> 00:24:44,885 that, but I don't think that was the intent at the time 499 00:24:45,305 --> 00:24:48,245 for everybody to not be able to do anything with 500 00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:52,165 70 people voting versus a couple thousand. 501 00:24:52,325 --> 00:24:54,645 I I I did it, I get it. I did it. I really, yeah. 502 00:24:54,985 --> 00:24:56,765 I'm spending Seven people walk 503 00:24:56,945 --> 00:24:59,565 and make a vote for the entire second one. We're committed 504 00:24:59,565 --> 00:25:01,845 For 10 years on this thing, not one 505 00:25:02,755 --> 00:25:03,755 Laws. 506 00:25:03,755 --> 00:25:04,925 Oh, I not, I'm not saying that. 507 00:25:05,475 --> 00:25:07,805 Well this is, this is all known to me that, that, that 508 00:25:07,805 --> 00:25:10,005 that didn't work out the way it was supposed to be either. 509 00:25:10,925 --> 00:25:13,725 I believe for the matter of months we've been trying 510 00:25:13,725 --> 00:25:15,965 to put this together and get it done the legal way. 511 00:25:16,305 --> 00:25:18,205 If there was any question, it would've been nice 512 00:25:18,205 --> 00:25:20,565 to come forth prior to all this. 513 00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:26,125 So by all means, your knowledge just let us know 514 00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:27,165 what about it prior to, 515 00:25:27,325 --> 00:25:29,325 I didn't even know it was, I went up 516 00:25:29,325 --> 00:25:30,805 to Barb when I was checking to vote. 517 00:25:30,965 --> 00:25:32,485 I didn't even know that it was going, 518 00:25:32,485 --> 00:25:34,325 that we weren't gonna discuss those two articles 519 00:25:34,325 --> 00:25:36,125 until the day of top meeting, frankly. 520 00:25:37,345 --> 00:25:38,925 So I, I absolutely would've 521 00:25:38,925 --> 00:25:40,565 Come forward from Did you, did you receive 522 00:25:40,565 --> 00:25:42,125 it in the, in the mail? I 523 00:25:42,245 --> 00:25:43,405 I received the town report 524 00:25:44,465 --> 00:25:46,645 And the informational packet put out weeks, 525 00:25:46,945 --> 00:25:48,325 months before. Yeah. 526 00:25:48,325 --> 00:25:49,645 There was, there was letters For, 527 00:25:49,645 --> 00:25:53,445 for informational meetings and everything else. So 528 00:25:53,585 --> 00:25:54,925 It should have been in the town report. 529 00:25:55,635 --> 00:25:59,085 They were I know the two, article two 530 00:25:59,085 --> 00:26:01,005 and article three were in town report. 531 00:26:01,065 --> 00:26:03,125 And then you guys did separate mailing. 532 00:26:04,505 --> 00:26:07,605 Yep. Nothing. Yeah. Every, Every 533 00:26:07,605 --> 00:26:11,845 Voter in We actually, reality we did better than 534 00:26:11,845 --> 00:26:14,485 what the bond bank requires by sending that mailing out. 535 00:26:14,605 --> 00:26:15,765 'cause it went to everybody in town 536 00:26:15,825 --> 00:26:19,405 and not everybody reads newspaper or calls the internet 537 00:26:19,585 --> 00:26:21,405 or comes the public hearing. 538 00:26:21,545 --> 00:26:23,925 So I don't, we did, we went above 539 00:26:23,925 --> 00:26:26,325 and beyond what we required. See, 540 00:26:26,705 --> 00:26:27,925 But I didn't, you know, 541 00:26:28,115 --> 00:26:29,805 bygones are bygones and here we are. 542 00:26:30,025 --> 00:26:32,965 So we where we're at and We're gonna, 543 00:26:33,065 --> 00:26:34,365 I'm not here, we're gonna figure it out. 544 00:26:34,475 --> 00:26:36,365 Yeah, we'll figure it out. 545 00:26:36,605 --> 00:26:38,525 I just wanna make sure that whatever we do moving forward. 546 00:26:39,025 --> 00:26:42,685 Yep. It sounds like Ryan is, you know, very on board 547 00:26:42,685 --> 00:26:45,405 with the legality of things and you Cody Tyler 548 00:26:45,545 --> 00:26:46,725 and all of, so Yeah. 549 00:26:47,155 --> 00:26:48,805 Yeah. The question I wrote down to, 550 00:26:49,605 --> 00:26:50,775 what is the legal opinion 551 00:26:50,875 --> 00:26:53,335 of having the audit paper ballot versus on the floor? 552 00:26:53,595 --> 00:26:55,015 Is that the right question to ask? 553 00:26:55,915 --> 00:26:57,895 And you, me, you mentioned a specific statute. 554 00:26:58,525 --> 00:27:01,135 Yeah. You want say that that's the statute 555 00:27:01,135 --> 00:27:04,605 that he used here or he asked about it being on, 556 00:27:05,025 --> 00:27:06,525 is it Title 17? 557 00:27:07,555 --> 00:27:09,205 Yeah. So Title 17 Got you got the 558 00:27:09,355 --> 00:27:10,605 minutes for the town meeting. 559 00:27:10,605 --> 00:27:13,485 Right Barbara, you got the previous town meeting minutes 560 00:27:13,485 --> 00:27:14,525 that he is referring to? 561 00:27:15,585 --> 00:27:17,165 Yes. I So you could, you arrived 562 00:27:17,565 --> 00:27:19,645 Actually he made a copy that we're what is in the letter 563 00:27:19,645 --> 00:27:20,885 that, that Ryan 564 00:27:21,395 --> 00:27:22,395 Have an option. 565 00:27:22,395 --> 00:27:24,525 So you and Ryan can work together with the town attorney 566 00:27:24,525 --> 00:27:28,685 to figure out if we're doing something illegal again, right? 567 00:27:28,685 --> 00:27:30,805 No, we don't have to legal, 568 00:27:30,825 --> 00:27:32,445 we just didn't do it quite the way they 569 00:27:32,445 --> 00:27:33,805 require us to do it. So Title 570 00:27:33,805 --> 00:27:37,485 7 2 26 26 80 a 26 80 a. 571 00:27:37,665 --> 00:27:39,525 Yep. In 26 80 C. 572 00:27:39,705 --> 00:27:42,205 So 26 80 A says that you have to do this 573 00:27:42,225 --> 00:27:44,805 and then 26 80 C is specific to budget items. 574 00:27:45,435 --> 00:27:45,725 Yeah. 575 00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:55,005 So that eliminates any special vote. 576 00:27:55,025 --> 00:27:57,565 The future, like say at TV vote. 577 00:27:57,675 --> 00:27:59,045 Well, I'm just using that 'cause it was, 578 00:27:59,105 --> 00:28:00,245 the last vote we had 579 00:28:00,625 --> 00:28:03,525 Was the, at was the at TV vote before or after 580 00:28:04,385 --> 00:28:06,085 It, it was this Whole meeting. 581 00:28:06,505 --> 00:28:08,165 So it was well before then. It was before 582 00:28:08,165 --> 00:28:09,165 Then. 583 00:28:09,165 --> 00:28:10,525 Yeah. Okay. But we did live all the time. 584 00:28:10,555 --> 00:28:13,085 Like we did a REVO for this public safety building. 585 00:28:13,265 --> 00:28:16,445 We done, several people got a petition found, 586 00:28:16,585 --> 00:28:18,125 it was too close to call. 587 00:28:18,825 --> 00:28:21,845 We did a revote, I held it in the old fire station 588 00:28:22,865 --> 00:28:25,085 and we did a bond vote with the water. 589 00:28:26,225 --> 00:28:28,405 So we've had special votes in the past 590 00:28:28,475 --> 00:28:31,205 that have been just a paper ballot. 591 00:28:31,665 --> 00:28:34,925 And so that's gonna eliminate any of these. 592 00:28:35,515 --> 00:28:36,805 Well, it might have been just the fact 593 00:28:36,805 --> 00:28:38,325 that it happened on town meeting day. 594 00:28:39,305 --> 00:28:40,605 And again, I'm not an 595 00:28:40,725 --> 00:28:41,845 attorney, but that would be a question to 596 00:28:41,845 --> 00:28:42,845 Ask. 597 00:28:42,845 --> 00:28:43,485 The thing is that, 'cause it was, 598 00:28:43,825 --> 00:28:45,205 if you're talking 70 people 599 00:28:45,205 --> 00:28:49,805 that attend town meeting million. No, 600 00:28:49,845 --> 00:28:53,525 I, I I, I believe me, I I get that and I'm not, I'm, 601 00:28:54,485 --> 00:28:57,525 I would like to see all articles on ballot. Right. 602 00:28:58,085 --> 00:28:59,845 I would have to go before we voted 603 00:28:59,875 --> 00:29:02,405 that there was significant conversation 604 00:29:02,425 --> 00:29:03,565 and people didn't want that. 605 00:29:03,565 --> 00:29:06,205 Yeah. Yes. I'm fortunate enough to be able to attend 606 00:29:06,545 --> 00:29:09,605 and I get that some people can't and that's unfortunate. 607 00:29:09,905 --> 00:29:12,605 But we have to follow the process if we want 608 00:29:12,605 --> 00:29:14,365 to do Australian ballot and we forward. 609 00:29:14,515 --> 00:29:15,805 Yeah. I lived in a community 610 00:29:15,805 --> 00:29:18,325 that did everything on austral ballot, like break down 611 00:29:18,325 --> 00:29:21,125 to the, every budgetary item was 612 00:29:21,125 --> 00:29:22,485 listed out on Austral ballot. 613 00:29:22,505 --> 00:29:23,925 And frankly it was obnoxious 614 00:29:23,995 --> 00:29:26,125 because you had to vote line by line. 615 00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:28,005 Appropriation has to be. Yes. 616 00:29:28,625 --> 00:29:30,325 Yep. I know. So I get it. 617 00:29:30,385 --> 00:29:31,925 But we just need to follow the process. 618 00:29:33,165 --> 00:29:35,725 I think, you know, like you said historically, 619 00:29:35,925 --> 00:29:40,085 I mean I know the, the water tank and so plant 620 00:29:40,345 --> 00:29:44,165 and this building all done through bonds. 621 00:29:44,925 --> 00:29:47,485 I think water, the sewer plant may have been through SDA 622 00:29:47,505 --> 00:29:48,805 but different type of bond. 623 00:29:48,825 --> 00:29:52,085 But anything we committed to town to for a long period 624 00:29:52,085 --> 00:29:53,565 of time, like this is 10 years 625 00:29:53,665 --> 00:29:56,605 or the, I think the water tank was 20 to 30 years. 626 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:57,805 Same. The sewer plant 627 00:29:58,705 --> 00:30:01,565 or this, this building was like 20 years or so. 628 00:30:01,875 --> 00:30:05,445 What? And at then we've committed it to town to, to have 629 00:30:05,445 --> 00:30:06,485 to pay on for a long period 630 00:30:06,485 --> 00:30:08,245 of time has always been Australian ballot. 631 00:30:08,825 --> 00:30:11,805 And at then, like the regular budgets for the highway 632 00:30:11,945 --> 00:30:14,325 and the general fund and is a yearly thing. 633 00:30:14,325 --> 00:30:17,725 So they vote that annual budget at town meeting, which 634 00:30:18,545 --> 00:30:21,045 it doesn't commit the town for everybody in town 635 00:30:21,065 --> 00:30:22,325 for a number of years. 636 00:30:22,325 --> 00:30:24,405 Just that one year. If they don't like it, 637 00:30:24,405 --> 00:30:25,925 they should either show up to town meet 638 00:30:26,745 --> 00:30:28,165 or whatever the next year. 639 00:30:28,265 --> 00:30:31,485 But once you commit to something like this long term, 640 00:30:31,625 --> 00:30:35,185 you gotta make sure it's as many people can vote on it. 641 00:30:35,325 --> 00:30:39,925 So if that was the way it was worded, I gotta believe 642 00:30:40,075 --> 00:30:44,115 that what we've done in the past, so it's a precedent for, 643 00:30:45,425 --> 00:30:47,805 so probably would be fine, but I don't know for sure. 644 00:30:48,025 --> 00:30:49,845 I'm not a lawyer. Don't pretend to be 645 00:30:50,265 --> 00:30:51,725 Do you have it down court on you? 646 00:30:51,885 --> 00:30:52,885 I I have it up right now. 647 00:30:53,265 --> 00:30:55,525 The one question that could be questionable. 648 00:30:55,945 --> 00:30:59,365 No, I guess the minutes of the 2024. Oh hold on. 649 00:31:01,745 --> 00:31:04,735 Still in the, if you're in the 25 pounder board, 650 00:31:05,475 --> 00:31:09,935 the 2024 minutes should be in with that. Am I 651 00:31:09,935 --> 00:31:11,455 Looking at the 20, 24 minutes or the 652 00:31:12,305 --> 00:31:13,305 We're in the beginning. 653 00:31:13,395 --> 00:31:14,695 You're looking at Yeah, I don't 654 00:31:14,695 --> 00:31:16,735 20, 24 Minutes and 2025. 655 00:31:18,925 --> 00:31:20,015 Yeah, I think that's right, Barb. 656 00:31:20,605 --> 00:31:24,715 Yeah. Yeah, I know it, I know it. 657 00:31:24,795 --> 00:31:26,915 I I don't know what the margins were, but I know it 658 00:31:26,915 --> 00:31:28,035 Failed. It did fail. 659 00:31:28,155 --> 00:31:29,475 I don't, but I don't know if you keep, and I, 660 00:31:29,475 --> 00:31:31,195 and I'm pretty sure that went to paper ballot. 661 00:31:31,975 --> 00:31:34,315 Yes. I believe it, it, it would say 662 00:31:34,435 --> 00:31:35,835 that in the minutes. Do 663 00:31:35,835 --> 00:31:36,915 You remember what article it was? 664 00:31:37,335 --> 00:31:41,835 It was toward the end of, I believe, article 7 17 18. 665 00:31:41,895 --> 00:31:45,435 It was after all the appropriations, I believe. Well that 666 00:31:45,435 --> 00:31:46,715 Article is to put everything on 667 00:31:47,385 --> 00:31:48,675 Article 17 I think. 668 00:31:48,675 --> 00:31:50,195 So to see if the town will vote 669 00:31:50,195 --> 00:31:51,955 to adopt all budget articles is 670 00:31:52,335 --> 00:31:57,275 by Australian ballot pursuant to 17 BSA section 26 80 C. 671 00:31:57,935 --> 00:31:59,675 The motion was made by Ramish Schneider 672 00:31:59,735 --> 00:32:02,035 and seconded by Mike Sparano 673 00:32:02,695 --> 00:32:03,955 to prove the article is written. 674 00:32:04,015 --> 00:32:05,955 Ramish Schneider spoke in favor 675 00:32:06,015 --> 00:32:07,795 to moving all financials to Australian ballot. 676 00:32:08,345 --> 00:32:11,195 Many people spoke on behalf of seeing the tradition continu, 677 00:32:11,265 --> 00:32:12,435 they enjoy the discussion. 678 00:32:12,825 --> 00:32:15,915 Charlotte Mills stated that 371 people out 679 00:32:15,915 --> 00:32:19,035 of 2,600 voters voted last year by Australian ballot. 680 00:32:19,575 --> 00:32:24,305 Asking if is that really being represented that you need 681 00:32:24,305 --> 00:32:25,705 to realize the town meeting is important. 682 00:32:25,705 --> 00:32:27,705 Motion failed by voice vote. Okay, 683 00:32:27,955 --> 00:32:28,955 Voice vote. 684 00:32:29,605 --> 00:32:31,785 So so that was Per that. 685 00:32:31,935 --> 00:32:33,545 Yeah. So that was budget items. 686 00:32:34,625 --> 00:32:36,315 This is, this is a bond vote. 687 00:32:36,445 --> 00:32:38,915 Right. That's What I'm saying. There's different batch, 688 00:32:39,265 --> 00:32:41,405 But I think he's talking about in the thing, 689 00:32:41,405 --> 00:32:43,365 but I think he's, I think we're 690 00:32:43,365 --> 00:32:44,365 Good. 691 00:32:44,365 --> 00:32:47,165 Yeah. If it was a paper ballot, 692 00:32:47,325 --> 00:32:49,805 I would've said Yeah. An 693 00:32:49,805 --> 00:32:51,525 Australian ballot like it. 694 00:32:51,525 --> 00:32:53,745 Tell me what's that? 695 00:32:53,805 --> 00:32:56,265 Is that if you're doing an Australian ballot, 696 00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:58,905 like it would've tell me, is there anything 697 00:32:58,905 --> 00:33:02,145 that says we cannot have it discussed on the floor 698 00:33:03,005 --> 00:33:04,305 before the Australian ballot? 699 00:33:05,125 --> 00:33:06,175 Well, we're not gonna, 700 00:33:07,025 --> 00:33:08,025 We're just gonna have a vote. 701 00:33:08,025 --> 00:33:10,855 We're not gonna have, if you wanna discuss it, come 702 00:33:10,855 --> 00:33:12,415 to the public hearing prior to it, 703 00:33:13,115 --> 00:33:14,115 You gotta do it prior. 704 00:33:14,235 --> 00:33:15,455 You can't do it act down meeting. 705 00:33:17,525 --> 00:33:19,095 There's just gonna be a polling booth 706 00:33:19,405 --> 00:33:20,535 just to vote yes or no. 707 00:33:20,805 --> 00:33:23,135 Okay. Yeah. But like on town meeting, 708 00:33:23,195 --> 00:33:24,255 is there any way they could, 709 00:33:24,395 --> 00:33:27,895 we could do discussion on the floor and still do what ballot 710 00:33:30,125 --> 00:33:31,295 This year Discussion has to be had 711 00:33:35,515 --> 00:33:37,495 Not gonna be, but here it's just gonna be polling. 712 00:33:37,795 --> 00:33:40,775 You kind have like the school does there you can't, 713 00:33:41,355 --> 00:33:42,855 you call the school board members. 714 00:33:43,815 --> 00:33:45,695 Everything's on Australia pal. 715 00:33:46,035 --> 00:33:47,975 So you could answer any questions 716 00:33:48,165 --> 00:33:50,535 that anybody in the audience may have, 717 00:33:51,355 --> 00:33:55,775 but you couldn't like both on each particular article 718 00:33:55,775 --> 00:33:57,535 because it was all written valid. 719 00:33:58,195 --> 00:33:59,935 So the day of town meeting was 720 00:34:00,865 --> 00:34:02,755 article two and article three. 721 00:34:04,235 --> 00:34:06,195 I mean, I know there was a little confusion 722 00:34:06,195 --> 00:34:07,235 with the moderator and everything. 723 00:34:07,355 --> 00:34:10,275 I mean, they could be discussed like we do 724 00:34:10,785 --> 00:34:12,195 like a different school, 725 00:34:12,815 --> 00:34:17,195 but you couldn't, you couldn't be decided on anything 726 00:34:17,375 --> 00:34:18,515 on Article two three. 727 00:34:19,175 --> 00:34:20,475 You could ask questions, 728 00:34:20,655 --> 00:34:24,035 but that just seemed to go on forever. Yeah. 729 00:34:24,035 --> 00:34:24,875 You can't, you can't make 730 00:34:24,875 --> 00:34:26,555 amendments or anything like that. Like 731 00:34:26,555 --> 00:34:27,955 Traditionally be were The four. 732 00:34:29,465 --> 00:34:32,795 Yeah. Think. And then the question, you know, 733 00:34:32,795 --> 00:34:35,195 this is gonna be questionable article two, this is 734 00:34:35,195 --> 00:34:36,275 what it was stated 735 00:34:36,415 --> 00:34:38,275 as shall the voters approve adding 736 00:34:38,295 --> 00:34:40,115 250,000 to the general budget. 737 00:34:41,415 --> 00:34:44,315 So that sentence might've kind of hurt us right there. 738 00:34:44,315 --> 00:34:46,995 Potentially legally, because the general budget was voted 739 00:34:46,995 --> 00:34:51,835 by the floor, but one item was voted by Australian ballot. 740 00:34:52,055 --> 00:34:53,715 So if it's part of the Australian ballot, 741 00:34:53,935 --> 00:34:57,435 or sorry, the general budget, how can one piece be here 742 00:34:57,455 --> 00:34:58,475 and the other piece be there? 743 00:34:58,575 --> 00:35:00,355 It would be additional to the what you, 744 00:35:00,385 --> 00:35:03,555 because that 251 not included in the general 745 00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:05,075 budget. Correct. 746 00:35:05,745 --> 00:35:08,515 Yeah. But I just Yeah, I, I see. Because 747 00:35:08,575 --> 00:35:10,315 Any, any voter I think could pull 748 00:35:10,315 --> 00:35:11,515 something outta the general budget. 749 00:35:12,105 --> 00:35:13,435 Okay. I see What you're saying on the floor 750 00:35:13,495 --> 00:35:18,175 and say we don't want to, I mean, 751 00:35:18,255 --> 00:35:19,295 I would say the, the one 752 00:35:19,365 --> 00:35:23,495 that always brings up things is the, hold on, 753 00:35:23,495 --> 00:35:24,735 let me make sure I'm saying it right here. 754 00:35:25,205 --> 00:35:29,835 Basically all the money we give to the support of 755 00:35:30,495 --> 00:35:33,155 parent child fund that always gets pulled and says, 756 00:35:33,495 --> 00:35:36,395 and it got pulled this year in town meeting, we don't want 757 00:35:36,395 --> 00:35:38,445 to give X amount of dollars to this organization. 758 00:35:38,475 --> 00:35:39,645 We'd rather give that, I mean, 759 00:35:40,285 --> 00:35:42,125 I feel like some members are saying some numbers 760 00:35:42,385 --> 00:35:43,725 so they can kind of dissect. 761 00:35:44,995 --> 00:35:46,925 Yeah. But we didn't really hope anything. 762 00:35:46,945 --> 00:35:50,165 Didn't everything get everything voted 763 00:35:50,165 --> 00:35:52,685 that just the way it was in the article. Why? 764 00:35:52,995 --> 00:35:55,325 Yeah, but they were, they weren't attempting. You could, 765 00:35:55,325 --> 00:35:56,325 Yeah. 766 00:35:56,325 --> 00:35:57,445 You could make a motion. Yes. 767 00:35:57,445 --> 00:35:59,085 Someone could make a motion on the floor 768 00:35:59,225 --> 00:36:03,845 to amend the budget not to include the like s there 769 00:36:03,875 --> 00:36:04,875 Yeah. 770 00:36:04,875 --> 00:36:06,285 Anything. And then we try to, 771 00:36:06,285 --> 00:36:09,285 because they misunderstood what the article was 772 00:36:09,425 --> 00:36:13,685 and then yeah, it kind of was chaos there. 773 00:36:13,705 --> 00:36:18,245 But, and, and all, it all came out the way it was, 774 00:36:19,775 --> 00:36:22,915 it was in, in the article of the amount. 775 00:36:23,655 --> 00:36:26,635 So Ryan, while you were making copies? Yeah. 776 00:36:27,535 --> 00:36:30,435 The question is could we get a legal opinion from our, 777 00:36:30,435 --> 00:36:32,035 whoever the right attorney is for the town 778 00:36:32,035 --> 00:36:33,155 of Williamstown? I've reached 779 00:36:33,155 --> 00:36:34,835 Out to Nicholas Lowe. 780 00:36:35,475 --> 00:36:37,035 I haven't heard back from him, but Ill follow 781 00:36:37,035 --> 00:36:38,035 Up. 782 00:36:38,035 --> 00:36:40,875 Okay. The question is having the audit on paper versus 783 00:36:41,085 --> 00:36:42,395 floor, which is legal. 784 00:36:42,895 --> 00:36:44,235 Did we do it correctly? That's, 785 00:36:44,235 --> 00:36:45,235 That's what I asked. 786 00:36:46,095 --> 00:36:47,995 Robert got the information on the warning 787 00:36:48,055 --> 00:36:50,635 and what was done at that meeting. 788 00:36:51,275 --> 00:36:54,235 Previous meeting Guys can on that figure it out. 789 00:36:54,335 --> 00:36:55,355 Yep. We'll figure It out. 790 00:36:55,355 --> 00:36:57,875 We just dismissed it, I thought, didn't we? Yeah, but 791 00:36:57,875 --> 00:36:58,875 He wasn't here. 792 00:36:59,015 --> 00:37:00,675 No, no. Oh no, no. 793 00:37:00,675 --> 00:37:02,755 I met when we brought up that article that, 794 00:37:03,025 --> 00:37:05,275 that people discussed that day. 795 00:37:05,305 --> 00:37:08,635 That was the warning back then in 2024. 796 00:37:08,905 --> 00:37:13,855 Okay. James, I don't know what you're asking Larry, but 797 00:37:15,655 --> 00:37:18,975 Brian was just telling him to Ryan 798 00:37:18,995 --> 00:37:20,575 to reach out to the attorney to, 799 00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:23,895 Right, I got that then Larry said Brian was gonna look up 800 00:37:23,895 --> 00:37:27,125 for the warning, but he read that warning 801 00:37:27,555 --> 00:37:29,205 Ryan will fill you in. You guys will fine. 802 00:37:29,315 --> 00:37:32,565 Okay. All right. Just like you said, just 803 00:37:32,565 --> 00:37:34,205 Go over what you asked him to read to you. 804 00:37:34,995 --> 00:37:37,445 Yeah. Figure it out with the lawyer. Yeah. Okay. 805 00:37:38,905 --> 00:37:41,465 I fact, so we have to make two motions, right? 806 00:37:41,485 --> 00:37:44,665 One for the warning and one for the resolution. 807 00:37:44,935 --> 00:37:46,065 Correct. Okay. 808 00:37:46,205 --> 00:37:48,025 And should we read, I think it would probably best 809 00:37:48,025 --> 00:37:50,655 to read them as they were being 810 00:37:50,655 --> 00:37:51,935 voted on so everyone knows what they 811 00:37:52,055 --> 00:37:53,055 Actually say. 812 00:37:53,565 --> 00:37:55,695 Read what we're doing here and then we, 813 00:37:56,605 --> 00:37:57,605 Okay. 814 00:37:58,645 --> 00:38:00,545 So this is the necessity resolution 815 00:38:03,105 --> 00:38:07,045 and it reads, resolved that a special meeting 816 00:38:07,045 --> 00:38:10,485 of the select board and of the town of Williamstown. 817 00:38:10,965 --> 00:38:13,885 Duly notice for and held on March 30th, 2026. 818 00:38:13,945 --> 00:38:15,965 It was determined by the select board 819 00:38:15,995 --> 00:38:17,045 that the public interest 820 00:38:17,065 --> 00:38:18,205 and necessity demand 821 00:38:18,205 --> 00:38:20,765 that the town performed capital upgrades 822 00:38:20,905 --> 00:38:23,525 and improve at least 13.84 miles 823 00:38:24,185 --> 00:38:27,925 of nine unpaved town highways that had insufficient base 824 00:38:28,105 --> 00:38:31,525 and traveled way with to allow the public 825 00:38:31,625 --> 00:38:34,645 to safely travel set town highways in all seasons 826 00:38:34,645 --> 00:38:37,965 of the year, particularly in the spring by adding crushed 827 00:38:38,915 --> 00:38:43,275 granite to the base and be it further resolved 828 00:38:43,465 --> 00:38:45,795 that the select board and town manager estimated, 829 00:38:45,795 --> 00:38:48,675 but the total cost to perform the A four set upgrades 830 00:38:48,675 --> 00:38:51,675 and improvements to 13.84 miles 831 00:38:52,375 --> 00:38:55,915 of nine town highways is not more than $1 million, 832 00:38:56,245 --> 00:38:57,915 which is referred to as the project. 833 00:38:59,425 --> 00:39:01,805 And be it further resolved that the costs 834 00:39:01,865 --> 00:39:04,125 of the project are too great to be paid out 835 00:39:04,125 --> 00:39:06,565 of the ordinary annual income, revenue, 836 00:39:06,745 --> 00:39:08,405 and available resources of the town. 837 00:39:09,105 --> 00:39:12,645 And be it further resolved that the anticipated construction 838 00:39:12,685 --> 00:39:14,925 of the project is to occur in July, August 839 00:39:14,945 --> 00:39:18,205 and September, 2026, making it necessary 840 00:39:18,265 --> 00:39:19,325 to schedule a warrant 841 00:39:19,385 --> 00:39:21,805 and conduct a special town meeting for consideration 842 00:39:21,825 --> 00:39:26,495 of the project and be it further resolved that a proposal 843 00:39:26,635 --> 00:39:30,015 for the issuance of general obligation indebtedness 844 00:39:30,235 --> 00:39:33,935 of the town in an aggregate amount not to exceed $1 million, 845 00:39:34,555 --> 00:39:36,655 having a maximum term of 10 years 846 00:39:36,955 --> 00:39:39,575 to fund the project should be submitted to the legal voters 847 00:39:39,635 --> 00:39:42,735 of the town to be voted on by Australian ballot 848 00:39:43,315 --> 00:39:46,135 at a special town meeting to be called duly warned 849 00:39:46,135 --> 00:39:50,455 and held on Wednesday May 6th, 2026 at the public safety 850 00:39:50,735 --> 00:39:53,655 building 2 49 Meadow Street in the town of Williamstown. 851 00:39:54,595 --> 00:39:56,015 And be it further resolved 852 00:39:56,325 --> 00:39:59,495 that the select board will hold a public informational 853 00:39:59,495 --> 00:40:02,255 hearing on the project in bond issue proposition on Monday, 854 00:40:02,785 --> 00:40:06,375 April 27th, 2026, commencing at six o'clock in the afternoon 855 00:40:07,155 --> 00:40:09,095 at the Williamstown Public Safety Building, 856 00:40:09,155 --> 00:40:11,975 2 49 Meadow Street, the town of Williamstown and by Zoom 857 00:40:12,835 --> 00:40:15,855 and be it further resolved that all acts relating 858 00:40:15,875 --> 00:40:18,615 to the proposition of incurring indebtedness 859 00:40:19,235 --> 00:40:22,455 and the issuance of general obligation, depth, 860 00:40:22,635 --> 00:40:23,775 or purpose of this project. 861 00:40:24,555 --> 00:40:27,775 The importance with the provisions of chapter 53, 862 00:40:27,775 --> 00:40:32,595 title 24 Vermont statutes indicated am it further resolved 863 00:40:32,625 --> 00:40:34,635 that the attached form of the warning 864 00:40:34,815 --> 00:40:37,315 and form of ballot are specifically adopted 865 00:40:37,415 --> 00:40:40,675 for use in connection with consideration of the proposition 866 00:40:40,675 --> 00:40:43,395 of undertaking the identified capital improvement project 867 00:40:44,335 --> 00:40:46,675 and incurring indebtedness, therefore, 868 00:40:47,625 --> 00:40:50,205 and then the signature page, what we adopted. 869 00:40:52,145 --> 00:40:55,595 Okay. Will we entertain a motion 870 00:40:56,015 --> 00:40:57,875 to accept the article? 871 00:40:57,975 --> 00:40:59,955 Is read a resolution? Is it read? 872 00:41:00,735 --> 00:41:01,775 I make a motion to 873 00:41:02,945 --> 00:41:03,945 Tyler. 874 00:41:04,655 --> 00:41:07,615 Remember that the lawyer said to say as amended. 875 00:41:07,795 --> 00:41:10,095 Oh, so we, what he just read is the amending. 876 00:41:10,325 --> 00:41:12,855 Okay. We read it amended. He read the new one. Okay. 877 00:41:12,955 --> 00:41:15,255 So I, I just, I remember Well I'll let, 878 00:41:15,605 --> 00:41:17,375 Then I'll let you make the motion because you sound like 879 00:41:18,595 --> 00:41:19,895 He already amended it so we're, 880 00:41:19,895 --> 00:41:20,895 we're good the way he read it. 881 00:41:21,085 --> 00:41:25,655 Okay. Well I'll say I make a motion to 882 00:41:27,385 --> 00:41:30,375 adopt the necessity resolution capital improvement as read 883 00:41:32,655 --> 00:41:34,115 Your I'll second. 884 00:41:34,135 --> 00:41:38,735 It must be seconded. Any further discussion? All in favor? 885 00:41:39,435 --> 00:41:41,775 Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. 886 00:41:43,885 --> 00:41:48,555 Right then next up is the town of Williamstown Vermont. 887 00:41:48,555 --> 00:41:51,395 Special meeting of official warning for May 6th, 2026. 888 00:41:53,515 --> 00:41:55,415 The legal voters of the town of Williamstown, 889 00:41:55,415 --> 00:41:56,775 Vermont are hereby notified 890 00:41:56,775 --> 00:41:59,815 and warned to meet at the public safety Building 2 49 Meadow 891 00:41:59,815 --> 00:42:02,095 Street and the town of Williamstown on Wednesday 892 00:42:02,115 --> 00:42:04,015 May 6th, 2026, between the hours 893 00:42:04,075 --> 00:42:06,055 of 10 o'clock in the four noon, 894 00:42:06,715 --> 00:42:08,415 at which time the polls will open 895 00:42:08,515 --> 00:42:11,775 and seven o'clock in the afternoon at which time the polls 896 00:42:11,775 --> 00:42:13,535 will close to vote 897 00:42:13,675 --> 00:42:16,255 by Australian ballot on the following article. 898 00:42:16,445 --> 00:42:19,935 Article one shall the general obligation bonds 899 00:42:20,075 --> 00:42:23,055 or notes of the town of Williamstown in an amount not 900 00:42:23,055 --> 00:42:26,295 to exceed $1 million, having a maximum term 901 00:42:26,315 --> 00:42:29,295 of 10 years be issued to fund the purchase of materials 902 00:42:29,295 --> 00:42:32,175 and equipment to perform capital upgrades 903 00:42:32,275 --> 00:42:35,055 and improvements to at least 13.84 miles 904 00:42:35,515 --> 00:42:37,415 of nine unpaid town highways. 905 00:42:37,915 --> 00:42:42,035 By adding a new crush granted base, the legal voters 906 00:42:42,055 --> 00:42:44,435 of the town of Williamstown are further notified 907 00:42:44,435 --> 00:42:46,595 that voter qualification, registration 908 00:42:46,615 --> 00:42:49,795 and absentee voting relative to said special town meeting 909 00:42:50,565 --> 00:42:53,675 shall be as provided in chapters 43 51 910 00:42:53,735 --> 00:42:57,875 and 55 of Title 17 Vermont statutes annotated. 911 00:42:59,675 --> 00:43:01,295 The legal voters of the town 912 00:43:01,295 --> 00:43:03,495 of Williamstown are further notified 913 00:43:03,765 --> 00:43:06,655 that a public informational hearing will be held on Monday, 914 00:43:06,745 --> 00:43:11,575 April 27th, 2026 at the Williamstown Public Safety Building, 915 00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:14,655 2 49 Meadow Street in the town of Williamstown, 916 00:43:14,655 --> 00:43:16,615 beginning at six o'clock in the afternoon. 917 00:43:17,115 --> 00:43:18,895 For the purpose of explaining the project 918 00:43:19,155 --> 00:43:22,455 and the financing thereof, the voters may attend to via zoom 919 00:43:22,475 --> 00:43:27,135 and the following link, and then adopt an approved at a 920 00:43:27,135 --> 00:43:29,495 special meeting of the select board, the town 921 00:43:29,495 --> 00:43:31,695 of Williamstown duty recall notice 922 00:43:32,075 --> 00:43:34,455 and held March 30th, 2026. 923 00:43:34,715 --> 00:43:35,815 And a signature page. 924 00:43:37,115 --> 00:43:40,295 Not gonna get the motion to accept this as red, 925 00:43:42,165 --> 00:43:45,445 I Make a motion to accept the town of Williamstown. 926 00:43:45,445 --> 00:43:48,845 Special meeting, official warning, May 6th, 2026 as red 927 00:43:50,095 --> 00:43:51,095 Your second. 928 00:43:51,205 --> 00:43:54,185 Second motion made. Second. Any discussion? 929 00:43:55,925 --> 00:43:58,345 All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? 930 00:44:02,405 --> 00:44:03,575 Alright, great. 931 00:44:04,425 --> 00:44:07,545 Send these around. We have the spot for you. 932 00:44:07,545 --> 00:44:08,545 Brian, anything? 933 00:44:13,605 --> 00:44:16,585 We don't have to make a motion for the ballot. 934 00:44:17,825 --> 00:44:20,785 I don't believe so. A Nothing's said on not hearing. 935 00:44:21,285 --> 00:44:25,525 Did you check the spelling? Well, we just to be safe, let's, 936 00:44:25,525 --> 00:44:27,725 let's make a motion to approve the ballot as written. 937 00:44:27,915 --> 00:44:30,085 Sure. Yep. Just in case 938 00:44:30,685 --> 00:44:31,845 I, I'm gonna just read it just quick. 939 00:44:32,185 --> 00:44:33,965 Do you want me to read it out loud? Yeah, 940 00:44:33,965 --> 00:44:34,445 Please. Okay. 941 00:44:35,035 --> 00:44:37,765 William Town's official ballot, May 6th, 2026. 942 00:44:37,795 --> 00:44:40,605 Article one Shall the general obligation bonds 943 00:44:40,705 --> 00:44:42,365 or notes of the town of Williamstown 944 00:44:42,385 --> 00:44:44,445 and the amount not to exceed $1 million, 945 00:44:44,865 --> 00:44:47,805 having a maximum term of 10 years be issued 946 00:44:47,805 --> 00:44:49,445 to fund the purchase of materials 947 00:44:49,525 --> 00:44:51,565 and equipment to perform capital upgrades 948 00:44:51,565 --> 00:44:55,365 and improvement to at least 13.84 miles 949 00:44:55,385 --> 00:44:57,125 of nine unpaved town highways 950 00:44:57,125 --> 00:44:58,885 by adding a new crush credit base. 951 00:44:59,715 --> 00:45:02,855 If in favor of this bond issue, make a cross in this square. 952 00:45:03,035 --> 00:45:05,975 If opposed to this bond issue. Make a cross in this square 953 00:45:10,625 --> 00:45:11,765 Motion. I make 954 00:45:11,765 --> 00:45:13,445 A motion to accept the ballot room. 955 00:45:14,635 --> 00:45:16,775 Second. Second. Motion May 2nd. 956 00:45:17,035 --> 00:45:20,145 Any discussion? Favor? 957 00:45:20,965 --> 00:45:22,505 Aye. Aye. Opposed? 958 00:45:23,685 --> 00:45:26,185 Is this something we need to vote on now or there? 959 00:45:27,965 --> 00:45:30,505 No, I just want to discuss it in executive session. 960 00:45:30,935 --> 00:45:32,865 Just for probation? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 961 00:45:47,775 --> 00:45:51,075 You're all good There? 962 00:46:14,515 --> 00:46:16,855 No. Any additional requirements you aware of? Nope. 963 00:46:19,615 --> 00:46:20,195 On the table? 964 00:46:24,995 --> 00:46:25,485 Nothing. 965 00:46:26,435 --> 00:46:29,725 Yeah. As far as the ballot, will that be mailed 966 00:46:29,725 --> 00:46:31,085 to every individual person 967 00:46:31,085 --> 00:46:33,325 or will it be available at the time of the vote? 968 00:46:34,345 --> 00:46:36,675 Yeah, if somebody's gonna ask me that question. Yeah. 969 00:46:36,675 --> 00:46:39,155 No, they'll be, you can get an absentee, 970 00:46:39,215 --> 00:46:42,755 but I think the way the mail is, you vote in the office 971 00:46:43,495 --> 00:46:46,435 if you can't make it to the vote, but there'll be, 972 00:46:46,875 --> 00:46:49,275 but they, they'll get, there'll be a stack of them here 973 00:46:49,275 --> 00:46:51,115 where that's what, okay. 974 00:46:51,115 --> 00:46:53,275 Thank you. We're not mailing them out to people. No. Okay. 975 00:46:53,275 --> 00:46:55,835 Well I just, somebody gonna ask that question 976 00:46:56,535 --> 00:46:57,555 if you need absentee. 977 00:46:58,705 --> 00:47:01,355 Yeah. Absentee ballots can be mailed, right? 978 00:47:01,355 --> 00:47:02,435 That's what I mean. Other than 979 00:47:02,435 --> 00:47:03,955 that it's not like we just send them 980 00:47:03,955 --> 00:47:05,115 and people send them back in. 981 00:47:06,005 --> 00:47:07,005 We'll continue. 982 00:47:09,505 --> 00:47:13,625 Okay. I guess that's end of the regular meeting. 983 00:47:13,625 --> 00:47:15,025 We're gonna have to have executive session. 984 00:47:15,285 --> 00:47:18,065 So somebody wanna vote to go to short recess? 985 00:47:20,665 --> 00:47:22,785 I make motion to take a five minute recess 986 00:47:22,925 --> 00:47:25,745 and then enter executive session. I'll second 987 00:47:25,745 --> 00:47:26,745 That. 988 00:47:26,745 --> 00:47:29,445 Motion. Motion be seconded. All in favor? Legal issues. 989 00:47:29,605 --> 00:47:31,005 I think you have to state for legal issues. 990 00:47:31,755 --> 00:47:36,325 It's for legal issue. Thanks everyone. 991 00:47:40,515 --> 00:47:42,535 Okay. Okay. 992 00:47:43,905 --> 00:47:46,125 Are they vote to come out of SEC two session? Somebody? 993 00:47:46,675 --> 00:47:48,805 Yeah, I'll make a mark come out. Executive session. 994 00:47:49,085 --> 00:47:51,045 I second a motion may. Seconded. 995 00:47:53,955 --> 00:47:55,655 How do we work that? No action taken. 996 00:47:55,685 --> 00:47:59,215 Just do we have to or we did a motion? Second. 997 00:47:59,215 --> 00:48:03,775 Do we have to vote? Toye? All in favor? Aye. Opposed? 998 00:48:04,555 --> 00:48:09,485 Okay. And there was no action taken. So yes. 999 00:48:10,265 --> 00:48:12,525 Motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Last.