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Seven o'clock.

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Okay, we call the meeting order for the Monday,

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September 14th, 2026.

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Williamstown Select board meeting for site of the agenda is

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to pledge of allegiance

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To the flag of the United States of America

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and drew to Republic for which it stands.

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One Nation honor God, indivisible, with liberty

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and justice for all.

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Next item is set the agenda.

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Brian just asked me if he could run a proposal by us.

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This wasn't wor so we, there's nothing we could vote on,

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but we could list what he is gotta say

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and then it's definitely gonna have

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to have some research done to it.

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So, does anybody have any objections to that?

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No. No. So we'll put you in

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after the presentation from Du Bois and King.

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So you won't have to sit through all the other stuff. Judge.

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It'll be a second. So just I'll tell you when it's time.

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Okay.

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And one other thing that I know,

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if we have another payroll warrant

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for nine 11 needs to be added to.

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Yep, yep, yep. Anybody else have anything?

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Nope. I have a motion on the agenda.

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Make a motion to accept that as amended. Second.

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Motion made Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed?

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I Review of open public comments has eliminated

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paper out on the shelf back there.

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If anybody's interested in how the meetings are run,

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welcome to take a look at it.

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Is there any select more announcements?

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I would like to behalf

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of the town welcome a new business in town called Embers.

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We tried it out the other night. It's very, very good.

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So we're fortunate now we have three restaurants in town.

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Yeah, couple bars actually all three of 'em have liquorice.

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So, but it, it was very good.

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Very nice and glad to see him in town.

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Any public announcements,

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commission committees, trustees, virtue service reports,

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other board announcements,

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Youth sports.

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The next three weekends we got events over at the field.

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So this coming Saturday we have our third

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and fourth grade jamboree following Saturdays.

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Our first and second grade jamboree.

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And then the first weekend in October is the

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fifth and sixth grade World Cup.

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We got the lights, we got scoreboard. Kids love it.

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Come check it out. It's a good time.

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Extra parking. Extra parking.

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Yep. It all worked out well this way. Good, good.

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Okay. Next item is approval of the warrants.

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Do you two have any that you can't be involved in?

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Yes.

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Not the warrants for me. Just, just the payroll warrant

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For me.

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I cannot be So you go first

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For me.

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It's just one of the payroll warrants.

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Okay. I cannot be involved with 22,210.

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So 2 2 2 1 0 22 2 10.

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Yeah. Okay.

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So let's do 'em all except for 22, 2 10.

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Does someone have a motion on that?

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I make a motion to approve those. Written

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With With it.

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With it. Object. 22 2 1 0.

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Mayor second. I'll second. That motion May 2nd.

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Any further discussion I have on

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22, 2 0 9.

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Very top item is a mailbox post.

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$814.

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Our standard procedure on mailbox posts that get hit

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by snowplows is what you say it was?

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45. 45

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Bucks.

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Yeah. So I don't believe,

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I guess this is a nice granite post one, But

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our red along all the time I've been on the board anyway,

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it's been like way less than that.

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So I don't think it should be any different.

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And if they wanna put,

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I got a mailbox up there, it's very expensive.

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That's totally up to them. If snow plow happens to hit it,

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which they don't do it intentionally,

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but some nights snow's hard.

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You can't see in front of you and snow banks get high

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or get load in.

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Things happen. But I think we'd be setting a bad precedent

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if we okayed this amount for this one.

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That's my opinion. So

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if I, we could just remove that from it

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and just go with a standard thing.

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If everybody's available that or we can go with this.

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It's whatever and I, somebody needs to make a motion on it.

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I, I can wait till the, the discussion after.

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Maybe we should clarify the thing again just so

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Yeah, so removing that would make the warrant

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22, 2 0 9.

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80,004. $24 and 74.

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I know that that's probably been in place

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for quite a few years.

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I might need to bump it up a little bit. Yeah,

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We're gonna have to revisit some policies.

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That, that was my thought.

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'cause it's 45 bucks isn't gonna,

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Why not box anymore, right?

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That doesn't buy a four by four.

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Yeah, I, I mean I would think a hundred dollars at least.

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Yep. I'll spot on this so we can make it,

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we can vote on that afterwards.

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Okay. What you say? There's revised about lost down right?

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$80,424 and 74 cents.

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Okay. So

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we need to have a motion to, if this is route, you want

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to go with a 2020

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200, 209

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Amendment.

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Amendment.

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And I just have a question. Do not about this Warrant,

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warrant 22 2 2 2 1 2.

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There was a

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Booth payment For the Autumn Festival.

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Yeah. Planning commission. Okay. Talking about the plan.

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Okay. I just didn't Know. Rented a booth from the club.

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I, okay, so we need a

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motion to amend a motion I guess to

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change the amount on 2209.

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I'll make a motion to accept the amended amount.

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I I didn't catch all that number.

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80,004. $424 and 74 cents.

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74 cents. Yes to that number.

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You second? Yeah, I'll second that motion May 2nd.

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All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?

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Now we vote on, I need a motion on

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2 2 2 1 0.

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Make a motion on that.

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I make the motion to approve 2 2 2 1 0 as written.

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I'll second. Motion May 2nd a discussion.

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All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.

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Payroll warrants some of these you guys, guys.

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28 20. I think 8 23 is only One.

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Yeah. 8 23 is the one I have to do.

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You got some too? Yeah, I, I have to few. Let's

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Just do, let's, there's only three.

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Let's just do it separate.

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I'll make a motion on the first one. 8 23.

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I make a motion to accept the payroll warrant for 8 23.

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I'll second. Motion made seconded a discussion.

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All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed?

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Next one is nine six. Get a motion on that.

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I make a motion to approve the payroll warrant. 9 6 26.

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Yeah, I'll second that

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Motion may seconded Any discussion?

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All in favor? Aye. Aye.

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I myself. Okay,

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next one is payroll warrant nine 11.

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A motion on that?

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Go ahead. I make a motion to accept payroll warrant

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for 9 11 20 20 26.

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Second. Second. Any discussion?

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All in favor? Aye.

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Okay. I'll just let board meeting minutes have a motion on

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that for eight 10.

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I make a motion to accept the meeting minutes.

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Your second. Second. Don't you be second.

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Any discussion in the minutes?

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All in favor? Aye.

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Opposed? Yes. Europe, Brian

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And just one second.

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I did just so all the citizens know,

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I don't know if we mentioned this last board meeting.

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I think we did, but the first Monday of every month

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the air raid siren is gonna go off the firehouse for testing

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just to make sure it's functioning so

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all citizens know it's not an emergency

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other than you hear it a lot then it would be an emergency.

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But it's the first Monday of every month.

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Okay.

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I started diving into budgeting for next year

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and I've started with wa the water and sewer budget.

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We're essentially looking at a $44,000

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increase on the new contract with Simons

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that would go into effect next year.

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Which means we will have to raise base charges

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and rate some to cover.

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This large increase comes from being locked into a five year

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contract with Simons at a fixed rate,

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which they no longer offer to municipalities.

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So they, they still offer it to us or, or no

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Would this new if we decide to go with Simons,

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the contract that they're gonna submit to us

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will be a five year contract,

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but it will increase by 2.5% every year

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to cover their rising costs.

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They don't offer that anymore?

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They do not. We are the one of two towns

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that still have a fixed rate.

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Okay. And the town has not increased our rates at all

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in the same five year time period, which requires us

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to make a larger adjustment than usual.

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The good news is that Alan

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and I have identified several areas within the budget

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that we can scale back to help us make the rate

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and increase the smallest possible.

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We were all set up with Deluxe being our new credit card

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processor as our last vendor was gonna start charging us a

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$500 monthly fee to continue using their services Deluxe

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to even sweeten the deal by offering us a lower service fee

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rate of 2.35%, which was originally 2.85%.

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They also threw in two free terminals to use

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for processing cards in the office.

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The Baptist Street Culvert project is

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continuing along ahead of schedule.

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The concrete footings have been poured.

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The stem walls have been poured and pure for a few days.

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If everything continues according to plan,

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the road will be opened on October 1st rather than the

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original date of October 8th.

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The Graniteville road PE road paving project will

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begin in mid October.

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I'll inform the public when I get a solid date from Pike

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in the process of putting out another RFP

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for Construction Hill on Chelsea Road

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and we can open those bids.

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Maybe we can just have a quick

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meeting when I get those bids in just so we can open them

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because you've already put them out.

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Right. Okay. So did

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You check on maybe getting them bids in quicker

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so they have more time?

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Yeah, yeah. So I gave 'em two weeks so we'll see.

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See what we come back with in two weeks.

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So when will the bids be coming in now?

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It'll be still for the October 8th meeting.

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No, no, but it'll be earlier than that.

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It'll be, it'll be two weeks from Friday

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On October 1st or second

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25th. Yeah.

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But Rod and I talked

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because the pavement season's coming to an end shortly

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to we get 'em quicker.

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Yeah, we could just get together to approval.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So Pike is very interested in doing those two projects

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as well and they wanted

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to know if we could just tack them on

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but we have to put things out to bid

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and stay within our policy.

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But I wouldn't be surprised if they were the low bid account

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'cause they'd like to just do 'em all while they're here.

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So we'll see.

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We have new maintenance person cleaning the town office

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and the public safety building in Valerie who started

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the last week of August.

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Our previous cleaning company stopped showing up

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and didn't communicate with me as to

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what was going on from week to week.

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So went with a local person

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who expressed interest back when I posted the position

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earlier this year and she's doing a great job.

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The state police finally returned the previous manager's

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desktop and laptop to us now that the case has been closed,

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that where those were being used as evidence.

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And the current delinquent tax total is $209,444.

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We have collected $997 since the last update.

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This is the worst month

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for delinquent collections I've had since I started.

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A bunch of people miss their payment agreements

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so we're gonna have to follow up with a

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lot of people to see what's happening.

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New tax bills will be sent out this week

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after the new rate has been set,

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which will be up this weekend.

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So we hope to get those tax bills out tomorrow afternoon.

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Everything lines up.

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The current delinquent utility total is $55,072.

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We recovered $10,661 since the last section.

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Anybody Have any questions for Ryan?

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Anybody in the audience have any questions for Ryan?

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Okay, We'll go on to new business

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Williamstown Sidewalk Pro project presentation

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And just there's like a slide thing right on the top

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and just give it a second.

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Yep. There you go. Yeah. Hi. Good evening.

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I'm sorry I have to cut my back to cut some of you.

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It's very short cord. I haven't seen you before.

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My name's Andrea Haynes.

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I'm a landscape architect with Du Bois and King

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and we have been working on this sidewalk feasibility study.

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We started I think in the spring.

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So on the project team

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is the central Vermont Regional Planning Commission.

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Ruben is here from there.

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And like I said, I'm from Du Bois and King.

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We're based in Randolph and then the town of course.

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So Ryan and Cody have both been involved

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along with some other folks.

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So if you haven't heard about this at all, this is a study

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to look at the possibility of putting sidewalks in

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in the orange dash is the general project area.

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So we're looking at putting in a sidewalk

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between the schools

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and then also from the school area into the village.

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So finding a safe route from that area to the village

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and the potential routes, well what a feasibility study is.

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So this is part of a, a larger multi-step process

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where you have to do either a feasibility

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or a scoping study.

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Feasibility study is a little bit shorter,

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a little bit less detail,

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but depending on

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what v vRAN says you can, it's a, it is a step

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that you usually do a scoping study

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which is a little more detailed

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but we can sort of skip a another study

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'cause we've done most of the work.

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So we can hopefully go straight to construction documents

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with a few more reports and things that vRAN requires

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before they'll approve any money

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for these kinds of projects.

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And at the beginning we have, we want a lot of public input.

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We did have two meetings already

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where we went over, we just got everybody's feedback called

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the local concerns meeting

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and then we did an alternatives presentation.

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So this is actually our final presentation.

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And so as it goes on, more public input later as it goes on,

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less public input, more cost.

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So the different alternatives that we looked at were

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just the connection between the schools.

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So that's what you see in the blue line.

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So we're calling that alternative number one.

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And then we were looking at the possibility of

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Construction Hill Road.

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I'm sorry I have a cold.

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So either two possibilities on there,

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either the north or the south side.

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And then the third alternative we looked at is

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in the orange line.

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So that's Brush Hill and Brook Street.

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So two possible alternatives on that one as well.

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Two sub ones. So just real quick,

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you probably all are familiar with these roads.

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This is just what it looks like

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on Brush Hill slash Hebert Road between the schools.

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There's actually good amount of space.

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I know it's a big concern with snow

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safety in the winter for the kids.

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'cause there's a lot of kids that go from

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the middle high school to the elementary school

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to pick up younger brothers and sisters

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or get picked up from there together.

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So this is, we, we were looking at, you know, what it fit

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and it was, it's pretty evident

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that it should be on the east side

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'cause that's the side, the schools they're on.

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And we study things in section two here.

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So we're looking at the grades.

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We actually, I think there was a previous project

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where they had widened the road in hopes

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of doing a sidewalk at some point.

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So there's actually a good bit of space,

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not too many technical challenges when it comes to putting

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a sidewalk in.

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There are some slopes either going up as you can see on

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that first section or some slopes, you know, going down,

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which is not too difficult to deal with.

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Just some regrading might be needed.

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So the strengths of actually building this one is that

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it would, you know, greatly improved safety

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for kids obviously by having,

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what we were looking at was a curved, a raised sidewalk.

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Not a ton of utilities along here. So that's great.

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There are some slopes, there's a little bit of tree

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and brush removal, that kind of thing.

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But not a lot of difficulty.

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It's pretty easy to get a sidewalk in here. So that's great.

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Construction hill. So what, what we did here is that

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doing the sidewalks between the schools is like priority.

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Like that's a pretty much a yes. Let's do that.

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And then the next question really is in addition to that,

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would it be better to go on Construction Hill

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or on Brook Street?

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So that's really the question here that we were looking at.

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So this is just the conditions on Construction Hill Road.

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There are some narrow areas, there's some steep slopes,

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there's a lot of catch basins, there's a lot of

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stormwater infrastructure that would need

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to be updated and placed.

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That's some of the challenges.

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So what we looked at, looked at either doing

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part of the route on the south side

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and then moving up to the north side

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and then also actually continuing down to

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Main Street and Meadow Street

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because that's a, that's a route that a lot

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of kids take is they actually then go down Meadow Street.

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So we were looking at also making some crosswalks

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and improvements there, like reducing this,

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do I have, so like bumping this curve out.

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'cause right now it's really, really wide.

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So making that a shorter crossing.

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There is a lot of stormwater issues

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with water entering properties on this side

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because it's all slows down once you get that way.

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There were some blind corners.

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That was why we were looking at

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the south side of the street.

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And then in section, the strengths of youth

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of taking this route are that a lot

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of the kids already walk this way to get

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to the village from school area.

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We're not hemmed in with a river like we are on Brook

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Street, which is a big challenge.

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There's less traffic on Construction Hill,

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which is probably the reason kids already take it.

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Doing construction here would also mean

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you have the opportunity to update the stormwater

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infrastructure that's there.

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The challenges are that all of

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that stormwater infrastructure is there

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and it's very expensive to redo

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that for this option.

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Crossing the road a bunch of times is less than ideal.

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And yeah, there's a challenge when you come,

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when you're crossing Main Street,

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there's not good sight lines there.

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Construction Hill is also steeper,

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especially when you get close to Main Street

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because it's very steep.

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So looking at B,

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this would be keeping the sidewalk on the north side

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the whole time except when you need

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to cross right at the intersection of Main Street.

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So again, this is the route most of the kids are taking.

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The advantage of doing it on the north side is that we would

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put a swale on the, we

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would put a swale on this side of the sidewalk

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and manage and capture the stormwater

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before it comes onto the road versus

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you capture it passes road and neither.

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So if you have to build into the hill

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or if you have to build down the slope, they are kind of,

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it's like six to one half dozen of the other,

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whether you're on the north side

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or the south side, it's, there's not a lot

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of advantages like technically or costwise.

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So that's not the biggest consideration here.

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We did in the discussions with, at the alternatives meeting,

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we did identify this as the preferred alternative

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to take Construction Hill and to have it on the north side.

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This is what we identified as the preferred.

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And this is just a little closeup of

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what I was talking about with this intersection.

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So right now you can just barely see this curve,

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this black gray line.

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It's really wide, which makes it a really long crossing

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distance for here and also here.

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So this green that's showing that

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pushed out further into the roads so

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that pedestrians don't have as far to go.

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And as you see there's a crosswalk here

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and then coming down here makes this,

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this is a safer crossing

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because cars are coming down this pretty quickly

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and it's like a blind turn as well.

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So this we just think is much safer.

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Safer versus people crossing up here

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and then just, this is not our preferable alternative.

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But we did look at this and the challenges

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with Brook Street.

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I'm sure you all will know there's bridge,

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there's the river, there's a lot of houses, there's a lot

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of utilities, a lot of driveways.

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Houses are really close to the road.

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So it's very, it would be very challenging.

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We'd also need to put in like a pedestrian bridge to cross

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Stevens branch once you get on the

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brush hill section.

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So it's very narrow. Many driveways.

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There would also be a conflict if you brought the sidewalk

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all the way to here with the parking lot of the library.

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We did look at an A and a B option, A being to just have

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a sidewalk the entire way

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and around the corner at the library,

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this is what it would look like.

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And as you can see, we're really getting hemmed in

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by the Stevens River in two different scenarios here.

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Depending on where you look in section,

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it is, the road itself is relatively flat,

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but there's a lot you're just M in.

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It's very narrow. We did also look at this option B of

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building a sidewalk and then crossing near Tiffany Drive

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and then just directing pedestrians to walk

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through Memorial Park.

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Which, you know, it's still, it has disadvantages

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because of the bridge.

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And so this is where you'd,

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there's another bridge right here.

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So you'd have to put in a pedestrian

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bridge 'cause it's too narrow.

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And then this is not the best to have a midblock

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crossing for safety reasons.

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Plus again, we have high speeds coming around a corner.

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Midblock crossing, it's not, it's not ideal.

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So just looking at that in section,

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that would be where the crossing is.

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And you can see we're hemmed in by the river.

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And so we decided

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that was not the best alternative.

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So as I said, alternative two B

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was the preferred alternative.

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And these are very, very preliminary construction costs.

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So this is very conceptual level design.

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But this just gives you an idea of like the level of

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cost we're talking about.

521
00:30:21,565 --> 00:30:23,945
As you can see, you know, there's not really any difference

522
00:30:23,945 --> 00:30:25,345
between two A or two B.

523
00:30:26,435 --> 00:30:27,615
Taking Brush Hill

524
00:30:27,615 --> 00:30:29,975
and Brook Street would be the most expensive

525
00:30:29,975 --> 00:30:31,735
because we'd have to put in a bridge.

526
00:30:33,995 --> 00:30:37,335
The good news is that just adding the sidewalk

527
00:30:37,445 --> 00:30:40,295
between the schools is our, is the lowest cost

528
00:30:41,165 --> 00:30:42,975
project that we'd be looking at.

529
00:30:42,975 --> 00:30:45,975
Which I know was, was the priority for the safety.

530
00:30:48,475 --> 00:30:51,095
And yeah, this is still very preliminary.

531
00:30:51,185 --> 00:30:53,055
Don't get to hung up on those numbers.

532
00:30:56,595 --> 00:30:59,575
So the next steps for this project is

533
00:31:00,955 --> 00:31:05,015
the select board has to formally accept our study

534
00:31:05,045 --> 00:31:08,095
that we've done and then

535
00:31:09,275 --> 00:31:12,455
you all will determine, you know, which projects you'd like

536
00:31:12,455 --> 00:31:16,675
to move forward with and then coordinate with V Trans about

537
00:31:17,255 --> 00:31:21,475
the process that you would need to do with them.

538
00:31:21,525 --> 00:31:25,835
Since this wasn't a formal scope and study.

539
00:31:25,895 --> 00:31:28,315
So you might need to do, you know, you could skip right

540
00:31:28,315 --> 00:31:30,755
to the design and construction, but just have to go back

541
00:31:30,755 --> 00:31:34,555
and do archeological and historic resources

542
00:31:34,555 --> 00:31:36,155
because that wasn't a part of this project.

543
00:31:36,295 --> 00:31:37,635
And that's like a required step.

544
00:31:38,835 --> 00:31:40,755
I thought we got an email about the

545
00:31:40,755 --> 00:31:45,045
Archeological that we did.

546
00:31:45,045 --> 00:31:47,725
Like a very superficial Okay.

547
00:31:47,875 --> 00:31:50,325
Yeah, that was like a very, very superficial one.

548
00:31:50,325 --> 00:31:54,765
That's not a full study. Yeah. Yeah.

549
00:31:56,665 --> 00:31:59,845
Any questions? What kind of money are we talking

550
00:31:59,945 --> 00:32:01,165
for the, for the options.

551
00:32:02,335 --> 00:32:04,475
How much? Oh here I can go back to that.

552
00:32:05,205 --> 00:32:06,755
Can't see it from here. Oh, I'm sorry.

553
00:32:07,035 --> 00:32:10,555
I could tell from dollars. So a little higher.

554
00:32:10,815 --> 00:32:13,675
So for alternative one, that's the sidewalk

555
00:32:13,825 --> 00:32:14,915
between the schools.

556
00:32:16,415 --> 00:32:20,275
That's 800,000, 800.

557
00:32:21,655 --> 00:32:25,395
So take that with a really, really big grain of salt though

558
00:32:26,105 --> 00:32:28,275
that we, we always put in like

559
00:32:29,215 --> 00:32:31,235
20% contingency,

560
00:32:31,845 --> 00:32:35,995
extra escalation like we put in just so people aren't like,

561
00:32:36,055 --> 00:32:38,915
oh it's only gonna be a hundred and it turns out to be 400.

562
00:32:39,425 --> 00:32:42,015
We always like pad it a lot.

563
00:32:43,115 --> 00:32:45,175
That's the upper end. So What's that?

564
00:32:45,315 --> 00:32:46,375
That's the upper end.

565
00:32:46,805 --> 00:32:49,655
Yeah, I would, I can't say for sure

566
00:32:50,515 --> 00:32:55,165
but yeah, we try to, you know,

567
00:32:55,395 --> 00:32:57,485
yeah, so nobody gets stickers shock later.

568
00:32:57,705 --> 00:33:01,765
We always add like contingency percentages.

569
00:33:01,965 --> 00:33:04,765
I think we put, what do we put,

570
00:33:05,265 --> 00:33:07,125
30% contingency?

571
00:33:08,145 --> 00:33:11,645
No, 20% because we just don't know what we don't know

572
00:33:11,735 --> 00:33:15,405
until you really start doing survey.

573
00:33:15,915 --> 00:33:20,495
Like this was a, this is a very conceptual level project

574
00:33:20,645 --> 00:33:21,655
that we did here.

575
00:33:22,035 --> 00:33:24,015
We didn't have surveys.

576
00:33:24,105 --> 00:33:27,015
We're just using like what's available data

577
00:33:27,115 --> 00:33:28,295
online basically.

578
00:33:28,475 --> 00:33:31,465
So we, you know, there could be surprises.

579
00:33:32,325 --> 00:33:36,025
And then so alternative two, that's the two options

580
00:33:36,085 --> 00:33:38,705
for Construction Hill I, the north side of South side,

581
00:33:39,175 --> 00:33:43,465
they both came in the same 1.5 million, which includes

582
00:33:44,375 --> 00:33:47,025
redoing the entire road, redoing a bunch

583
00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:50,145
of stormwater infrastructure also

584
00:33:50,145 --> 00:33:51,785
with the giant contingency on top.

585
00:33:55,385 --> 00:33:57,685
And then alternative three,

586
00:33:58,135 --> 00:34:01,045
which is Brook Street Brook and Brush Hill.

587
00:34:02,795 --> 00:34:06,805
Either, either option is 1.6 million.

588
00:34:07,065 --> 00:34:09,445
So that's also up there.

589
00:34:13,355 --> 00:34:15,905
Which we determined is not what's best for safety.

590
00:34:17,875 --> 00:34:19,325
Yeah. Is

591
00:34:19,325 --> 00:34:22,165
There, has there been any talk, the plan in there

592
00:34:22,265 --> 00:34:25,725
to put those pedestrian squashers down on Main Street?

593
00:34:26,475 --> 00:34:27,475
It's already,

594
00:34:28,435 --> 00:34:32,725
Yeah, I think we did put that in our final report, which

595
00:34:33,825 --> 00:34:38,005
I'm not sure if the town puts that up on the website.

596
00:34:38,075 --> 00:34:40,885
Like once the report is done, if, if people can look at it.

597
00:34:40,915 --> 00:34:44,445
Yeah. Yeah we, we have definitely

598
00:34:44,995 --> 00:34:47,485
recommended those many places

599
00:34:47,865 --> 00:34:49,925
and I think that's in this report too.

600
00:34:52,705 --> 00:34:53,945
I I be a problems

601
00:34:54,045 --> 00:34:56,905
and kids coming down construction go with that bad corner.

602
00:34:57,205 --> 00:35:00,745
That's a bad intersection to start with on 14.

603
00:35:01,575 --> 00:35:04,465
Yeah, That's a bad intersection to start with

604
00:35:04,525 --> 00:35:05,745
and I don't know how you're gonna

605
00:35:05,745 --> 00:35:06,945
slow the traffic down there.

606
00:35:07,455 --> 00:35:09,745
Well that's what you were talking about with the flashers.

607
00:35:10,055 --> 00:35:12,825
Yeah. Yeah the, the pedestrians mean

608
00:35:12,825 --> 00:35:14,785
If they don't have an electrical shock system in

609
00:35:14,785 --> 00:35:15,865
it's probably not gonna work.

610
00:35:17,545 --> 00:35:21,185
I know we allowed do that rapid flushing but

611
00:35:21,185 --> 00:35:22,185
You know what I'm saying.

612
00:35:22,735 --> 00:35:25,745
Yeah, yeah I know.

613
00:35:25,985 --> 00:35:27,905
I mean the kids are already crossing there. Right.

614
00:35:28,815 --> 00:35:32,385
Some they should be crossing down towards the pub mar

615
00:35:33,015 --> 00:35:37,205
towards Depot Street, but yeah, away from that corner.

616
00:35:37,865 --> 00:35:38,865
So

617
00:35:40,115 --> 00:35:43,085
Yeah, Having lived up there for a lot of years,

618
00:35:45,935 --> 00:35:48,305
sometimes the children come down

619
00:35:48,325 --> 00:35:50,545
and walk down towards the library

620
00:35:50,845 --> 00:35:54,385
and cross between the six to four

621
00:35:54,605 --> 00:35:59,145
and others dance across the road between the car.

622
00:36:01,445 --> 00:36:05,025
And that's always been something in the back

623
00:36:05,025 --> 00:36:06,505
of my mind fixed.

624
00:36:08,075 --> 00:36:11,785
We're finally getting there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

625
00:36:13,535 --> 00:36:14,705
It's slow progress.

626
00:36:17,005 --> 00:36:21,275
The did that bridge on 64,

627
00:36:23,615 --> 00:36:27,775
they reread the traffic down through by the church

628
00:36:27,795 --> 00:36:29,175
and bank parking lot.

629
00:36:30,205 --> 00:36:32,745
Now does the state of the town own any of that property

630
00:36:32,805 --> 00:36:34,865
or is that all still private property?

631
00:36:35,705 --> 00:36:37,225
A church, It's like a park there

632
00:36:37,225 --> 00:36:39,665
now belongs to the church. It does belong

633
00:36:39,665 --> 00:36:40,265
To the church. Yeah.

634
00:36:40,615 --> 00:36:43,865
Yeah. Okay. So what I was thinking that's

635
00:36:43,865 --> 00:36:45,345
where the road should have stayed to begin

636
00:36:45,345 --> 00:36:46,665
with when they changed it over

637
00:36:47,415 --> 00:36:49,905
because it might eliminate a lot of future problems

638
00:36:50,285 --> 00:36:51,585
but disagree with you.

639
00:36:51,975 --> 00:36:54,185
Yeah and I don't know why it never was.

640
00:36:54,345 --> 00:36:56,185
I was thinking that might be a good option

641
00:36:56,205 --> 00:36:59,625
to get the kids across the road, you know, out of the, out

642
00:36:59,625 --> 00:37:02,505
of the way because they gotta slow down to that corner.

643
00:37:03,605 --> 00:37:05,785
Are you saying that we have to redo the

644
00:37:06,405 --> 00:37:08,305
bridge on Brook Street?

645
00:37:08,735 --> 00:37:12,105
They already has a sidewalk, not the Brook Street.

646
00:37:12,445 --> 00:37:15,345
It would just be the one above it. There's a small bridge.

647
00:37:15,695 --> 00:37:19,505
Yeah, yeah, no I know it from the right here on Brush Hill.

648
00:37:19,615 --> 00:37:21,065
Yeah, on Brush Hill. Okay.

649
00:37:21,065 --> 00:37:23,425
So that, and it's too narrow to add a sidewalk.

650
00:37:23,765 --> 00:37:27,025
So what we would, you can either put in a whole new

651
00:37:27,305 --> 00:37:29,385
vehicular end pedestrian bridge

652
00:37:29,885 --> 00:37:32,385
or you can just build a small pedestrian bridge

653
00:37:32,505 --> 00:37:33,625
of guns still,

654
00:37:35,395 --> 00:37:36,395
Right?

655
00:37:36,395 --> 00:37:37,065
Well it is, it is still there.

656
00:37:37,175 --> 00:37:39,225
What it is is a pipe piece cover.

657
00:37:39,225 --> 00:37:42,145
That's where the town water line run right across my

658
00:37:42,385 --> 00:37:43,585
property and across the thing.

659
00:37:43,775 --> 00:37:45,465
That little foot bridge was left of it.

660
00:37:45,465 --> 00:37:46,865
It's still there. It used

661
00:37:46,865 --> 00:37:47,865
To be one years ago. It

662
00:37:47,865 --> 00:37:49,425
Is still there. Yeah, it's still there.

663
00:37:49,605 --> 00:37:51,145
It saved Walk Pass was there,

664
00:37:52,585 --> 00:37:54,905
I walked around Was the side they preferred

665
00:37:54,905 --> 00:37:55,905
Walked.

666
00:37:57,445 --> 00:37:59,825
Oh yeah. Nothing but the styrofoam on top of the I beam

667
00:37:59,885 --> 00:38:01,465
and the grass and some trees.

668
00:38:02,655 --> 00:38:03,655
It's still there.

669
00:38:05,375 --> 00:38:07,555
We did a lot of work for uni for back when they had to

670
00:38:08,675 --> 00:38:10,315
ation stuff up there.

671
00:38:12,715 --> 00:38:14,995
I think the safest route in my opinion would be

672
00:38:15,215 --> 00:38:16,755
to do the construction hill route.

673
00:38:17,735 --> 00:38:21,465
But I would keep everything on the south side.

674
00:38:23,155 --> 00:38:27,475
I mean it's kinda like east side, no,

675
00:38:27,535 --> 00:38:29,195
no go against the universe.

676
00:38:29,595 --> 00:38:31,755
Property land. But the opposite side road

677
00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:36,125
come down along the Rush Hill Hebert Road

678
00:38:36,705 --> 00:38:37,965
in the Rush Hill intersection

679
00:38:38,905 --> 00:38:41,605
and then go over to the, to the,

680
00:38:42,225 --> 00:38:45,325
to the elementary school side of Construction Hill.

681
00:38:46,275 --> 00:38:48,725
Then keep, stay on that side all the way down through,

682
00:38:49,875 --> 00:38:52,925
there's all kinds of drainage systems manholes

683
00:38:53,545 --> 00:38:55,125
or the new first cleanup that goes

684
00:38:55,125 --> 00:38:56,405
to a pump station down below.

685
00:38:57,245 --> 00:38:59,005
I don't believe they much disturbed that.

686
00:39:00,255 --> 00:39:01,525
Where is, where's this?

687
00:39:01,795 --> 00:39:03,685
It's all the catch basin that you're talking about.

688
00:39:04,105 --> 00:39:05,605
It would be on the opposite side

689
00:39:05,605 --> 00:39:07,605
of Road Elementary school on Construc Hill

690
00:39:08,145 --> 00:39:09,245
on the same side as,

691
00:39:09,865 --> 00:39:11,885
Oh here there's the map

692
00:39:12,515 --> 00:39:15,805
This called duffle whatever it is. Street

693
00:39:16,075 --> 00:39:17,645
Talking to have to come down here

694
00:39:17,645 --> 00:39:19,405
and along this side instead of the upper

695
00:39:19,405 --> 00:39:20,405
Side.

696
00:39:20,405 --> 00:39:23,325
So you're saying they have drainage structures on

697
00:39:23,325 --> 00:39:25,605
that North's all drain along that side all the way

698
00:39:25,605 --> 00:39:29,565
Down this side route drainage that's all's down

699
00:39:29,565 --> 00:39:31,205
through here to a pump stations down behind.

700
00:39:32,005 --> 00:39:33,085
Yeah, the pump stations right behind

701
00:39:33,085 --> 00:39:34,085
My house.

702
00:39:34,085 --> 00:39:35,725
So you're not, they won't even let you touch that.

703
00:39:36,555 --> 00:39:39,285
Yeah, I would come across then go this way.

704
00:39:39,715 --> 00:39:41,525
Stay on this side all the way down through

705
00:39:42,135 --> 00:39:43,205
where you get down past.

706
00:39:43,305 --> 00:39:44,805
That's where they said there go back up

707
00:39:45,185 --> 00:39:46,325
And then back down again.

708
00:39:46,335 --> 00:39:48,805
Would you get down past High Street which was here?

709
00:39:49,925 --> 00:39:52,005
Yeah, the bank is very steep comes right.

710
00:39:52,435 --> 00:39:54,565
Yeah. That's why we had to switch sides. Yeah,

711
00:39:54,875 --> 00:39:57,685
We'd go across the other side just I'd sta right on this

712
00:39:57,685 --> 00:39:58,845
side all the way to Brook.

713
00:39:59,275 --> 00:40:01,485
Yeah, you don't have to cross high street with kids.

714
00:40:01,485 --> 00:40:03,085
You don't have to cross see one the kids.

715
00:40:03,825 --> 00:40:05,485
And it's could be just as like you said,

716
00:40:05,515 --> 00:40:06,725
just the same amount of work

717
00:40:06,785 --> 00:40:08,885
to do it on low side or out or the upper side.

718
00:40:08,955 --> 00:40:10,645
Yeah. Yeah. You have to Do a ready walk wall.

719
00:40:10,715 --> 00:40:12,325
Yeah, retain wall of some sort.

720
00:40:12,945 --> 00:40:15,365
And what I would do is when you got down on the 14,

721
00:40:16,245 --> 00:40:19,005
I would try to locate that crosswalks somewhere halfway

722
00:40:19,005 --> 00:40:21,605
between Brook Street, construction Hill rather than so close

723
00:40:21,605 --> 00:40:24,005
to Construction Hill on the spot that works.

724
00:40:24,285 --> 00:40:27,405
That gets kids farther away from that intersection.

725
00:40:27,405 --> 00:40:28,405
Both intersection for

726
00:40:28,405 --> 00:40:29,405
Sure.

727
00:40:29,405 --> 00:40:33,725
Yeah. So I know there, there was talk of eventually

728
00:40:34,335 --> 00:40:38,965
connecting, like completing the sidewalk all the way from

729
00:40:40,385 --> 00:40:43,295
along Main Street to connect all the way from Construction

730
00:40:43,295 --> 00:40:44,615
Hill to Brook Street.

731
00:40:44,885 --> 00:40:46,855
Like to actually have a complete to

732
00:40:46,855 --> 00:40:48,455
Go up the Library eventually, right?

733
00:40:48,615 --> 00:40:50,455
I don't think you can't, you can't make a crossing

734
00:40:50,455 --> 00:40:53,375
that close to the intersection mean

735
00:40:53,835 --> 00:40:55,495
that's a interstate access road.

736
00:40:56,265 --> 00:40:58,655
We're not gonna let you put a crossing right

737
00:40:58,655 --> 00:40:59,735
at the Brooks intersection.

738
00:40:59,735 --> 00:41:02,695
You're gonna have to move it back, back away from that

739
00:41:03,175 --> 00:41:04,175
Intersection.

740
00:41:04,175 --> 00:41:06,855
I would say Rob, if you went to the north side

741
00:41:06,855 --> 00:41:08,375
of the library in that area,

742
00:41:08,685 --> 00:41:09,685
Yeah.

743
00:41:09,685 --> 00:41:11,015
I don't know how it would land on

744
00:41:11,575 --> 00:41:12,695
somebody's driveway across the road,

745
00:41:12,755 --> 00:41:14,375
but figure out a way to make it work

746
00:41:14,435 --> 00:41:17,055
and somewhere that area between s

747
00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:21,135
and library so it doesn't come into somebody

748
00:41:21,735 --> 00:41:23,735
directly into somebody's driveway and the side.

749
00:41:26,205 --> 00:41:28,695
Yeah, You do you have a photo of that area?

750
00:41:30,135 --> 00:41:34,085
Not between, not between.

751
00:41:34,155 --> 00:41:35,205
Wait actually I do

752
00:41:38,295 --> 00:41:42,085
That kind Of shows here. Yeah,

753
00:41:42,085 --> 00:41:43,285
That's the library right there.

754
00:41:43,425 --> 00:41:44,565
So you have cross like

755
00:41:44,565 --> 00:41:45,565
Here.

756
00:41:45,565 --> 00:41:45,925
So you're saying right there, that

757
00:41:46,245 --> 00:41:48,525
Driveway on there, that Cheryl's trailer

758
00:41:49,515 --> 00:41:52,485
Find, find a place somewhere where was,

759
00:41:53,465 --> 00:41:54,765
was it coming into the driveway?

760
00:41:58,295 --> 00:42:00,075
So you could do it near The fire hydrant. You won't

761
00:42:00,075 --> 00:42:03,675
Do parking there, anything Not,

762
00:42:03,765 --> 00:42:05,355
we're not gonna be able, they won't let you

763
00:42:05,355 --> 00:42:06,395
put it right on the intersection.

764
00:42:06,595 --> 00:42:11,275
I know for sure, but maybe like that's the driveway.

765
00:42:11,415 --> 00:42:13,355
So just like, like in here something

766
00:42:16,735 --> 00:42:17,825
have the crosswalk there,

767
00:42:17,885 --> 00:42:19,505
the other sidewalk is already in place.

768
00:42:19,505 --> 00:42:20,505
Another side room

769
00:42:24,905 --> 00:42:28,815
About the, like we did contact

770
00:42:30,885 --> 00:42:32,855
this, the civil engineering company

771
00:42:32,995 --> 00:42:35,735
who worked on the capping

772
00:42:36,555 --> 00:42:39,015
and the environmental remediation for the universe.

773
00:42:39,535 --> 00:42:41,415
Universe site.

774
00:42:42,045 --> 00:42:45,905
Yeah, we, we did tell 'em about this project

775
00:42:46,085 --> 00:42:48,885
and we asked 'em like, is there any

776
00:42:50,735 --> 00:42:53,745
regulations or requirements like that we need to stay

777
00:42:54,345 --> 00:42:57,345
a certain distance away from like the edge

778
00:42:57,345 --> 00:42:58,545
of the property or anything.

779
00:42:59,005 --> 00:43:02,705
And they said there's not So as long

780
00:43:02,705 --> 00:43:07,485
as we're still in the right of way up here

781
00:43:08,265 --> 00:43:09,365
or are you saying that we would,

782
00:43:10,005 --> 00:43:11,685
I know for sure 'cause we put it in

783
00:43:12,105 --> 00:43:16,615
End up hitting the, there's sewer,

784
00:43:19,445 --> 00:43:20,775
they have a sewer right

785
00:43:20,775 --> 00:43:22,095
Through Here. Yeah. Okay.

786
00:43:23,005 --> 00:43:25,055
Cars probably know as much as anybody.

787
00:43:25,055 --> 00:43:28,335
It comes away, goes all the way down this side there.

788
00:43:28,715 --> 00:43:29,815
All right. The ditch line,

789
00:43:29,915 --> 00:43:31,575
you'll see some manholes down there.

790
00:43:31,685 --> 00:43:35,775
Yeah. Goes down this area here somewhere.

791
00:43:36,525 --> 00:43:39,975
There's a tank that comes across the road down

792
00:43:40,605 --> 00:43:43,935
Clayton's place, pump station, that's all,

793
00:43:44,235 --> 00:43:48,895
all drainage systems, drainage, pipe crush, stone manholes.

794
00:43:49,715 --> 00:43:52,015
And that's a separate system from the town that that,

795
00:43:52,015 --> 00:43:56,355
that collects all the first contamination if there's any

796
00:43:57,015 --> 00:43:59,195
who carries down to that filtration.

797
00:44:00,465 --> 00:44:02,275
Okay, so there's a special filtration system down.

798
00:44:02,335 --> 00:44:03,635
So they, they're not gonna let you mess

799
00:44:03,635 --> 00:44:04,755
that I'm sure. Yeah,

800
00:44:05,145 --> 00:44:06,755
Well It's right, it's right like the

801
00:44:07,105 --> 00:44:08,995
road edge and road here. It's like,

802
00:44:09,665 --> 00:44:10,665
Okay halfway.

803
00:44:11,455 --> 00:44:14,675
So I mean we can, we can go back to calling

804
00:44:15,015 --> 00:44:16,395
But you got plenty of road on the other side.

805
00:44:16,535 --> 00:44:18,715
Option A the preferred. Yeah.

806
00:44:18,735 --> 00:44:22,135
The reason we, we wanted to, we can't,

807
00:44:22,635 --> 00:44:24,295
we can't put a sidewalk in over here

808
00:44:25,285 --> 00:44:27,975
because the, the, the properties drop off

809
00:44:28,155 --> 00:44:31,805
and this garage is super close to the edge of the road

810
00:44:32,505 --> 00:44:34,565
so we had to switch over to the north side.

811
00:44:35,565 --> 00:44:39,865
So we didn't love the idea of, you know,

812
00:44:40,045 --> 00:44:41,945
the more times you make people cross back

813
00:44:41,945 --> 00:44:44,385
and forth over a road, the less likely they're gonna do it.

814
00:44:44,685 --> 00:44:46,305
You could build that up for you

815
00:44:46,305 --> 00:44:49,425
where rock haul retain while fits on it.

816
00:44:50,025 --> 00:44:51,025
Sidewalk

817
00:44:52,095 --> 00:44:54,225
This building, I'm not sure.

818
00:44:54,885 --> 00:44:58,945
So yeah, we don't look at, at this level of study,

819
00:44:59,365 --> 00:45:02,745
we don't actually get like the right of way.

820
00:45:03,365 --> 00:45:06,825
We don't have like perfectly accurate information on,

821
00:45:07,165 --> 00:45:09,465
you know, is that building in the right of way

822
00:45:09,725 --> 00:45:12,505
or is it like where the right of way is?

823
00:45:12,615 --> 00:45:15,225
That was recently built not too long ago. Oh that's

824
00:45:15,225 --> 00:45:16,305
Been there since I was a kid.

825
00:45:16,685 --> 00:45:18,225
Oh, that garage. Which building are you talking

826
00:45:18,225 --> 00:45:19,545
About? Roland Ion's garage.

827
00:45:19,775 --> 00:45:21,385
There's right here there's a Little garage.

828
00:45:21,405 --> 00:45:23,265
The ion's gun shop was oh

829
00:45:23,515 --> 00:45:24,515
Ion's scratch.

830
00:45:24,805 --> 00:45:27,825
That's been there I saw about the other one.

831
00:45:29,765 --> 00:45:33,065
So yeah, we just don't like that

832
00:45:34,695 --> 00:45:38,305
that level of detail would be like in, in a phase

833
00:45:38,305 --> 00:45:40,585
where you're actually getting a survey done.

834
00:45:41,445 --> 00:45:44,505
So finding out like exactly where

835
00:45:45,605 --> 00:45:48,505
the universe structures are, finding out exactly

836
00:45:48,505 --> 00:45:51,585
where the right of way is versus the existing pavement.

837
00:45:52,175 --> 00:45:56,445
Like those kinds of things would be, you know,

838
00:45:57,145 --> 00:45:58,325
so study closer

839
00:45:58,465 --> 00:45:59,765
In as we were doing this.

840
00:45:59,765 --> 00:46:00,965
Right. I ideally,

841
00:46:01,675 --> 00:46:06,205
ideally it's just on one side all the way down to the end.

842
00:46:06,205 --> 00:46:08,605
Right? That's ideal. Yeah. So there's no crossings.

843
00:46:09,255 --> 00:46:10,915
So our thought was, and again this

844
00:46:11,385 --> 00:46:13,275
what you're talking about Larry, we saw those

845
00:46:13,595 --> 00:46:16,955
'cause they came through not too long before we did the walk

846
00:46:17,255 --> 00:46:18,835
and you could see where they dug up the covers

847
00:46:19,015 --> 00:46:21,235
and were doing testing or whatever they were doing.

848
00:46:23,055 --> 00:46:26,915
But I, I think for us, everybody that was involved in this

849
00:46:26,935 --> 00:46:28,915
and the other public meetings we had,

850
00:46:29,025 --> 00:46:30,555
that was the ideal kind

851
00:46:30,555 --> 00:46:32,635
of main choice was keeping it on one side.

852
00:46:33,335 --> 00:46:35,995
Now if we get to the point where they start to go

853
00:46:35,995 --> 00:46:40,985
to the next step and say, hey, the state whoever says yeah

854
00:46:41,625 --> 00:46:44,185
actually you can't do that.

855
00:46:44,615 --> 00:46:46,305
This would then be the fallback.

856
00:46:48,205 --> 00:46:49,265
You plan on the fallback

857
00:46:49,265 --> 00:46:52,745
because they gonna let you go whole

858
00:46:52,935 --> 00:46:54,025
that whole drainage system

859
00:46:54,055 --> 00:46:55,865
That that and I think you're opening up another bag

860
00:46:55,865 --> 00:46:59,105
of worms if you start digging around that,

861
00:46:59,255 --> 00:47:01,505
that place been contaminated for those years.

862
00:47:01,505 --> 00:47:03,465
Nobody wants to take that responsibility

863
00:47:04,075 --> 00:47:07,225
Where they paved it, they cleaned it up and paved it.

864
00:47:07,225 --> 00:47:09,305
You can't even put a shovel on the ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

865
00:47:09,495 --> 00:47:10,625
This is down below that.

866
00:47:10,655 --> 00:47:13,345
This is down where the contamination's being picked up.

867
00:47:14,765 --> 00:47:16,385
But I Don't think this is any

868
00:47:16,385 --> 00:47:18,145
of it's gonna be real all not relevant

869
00:47:18,425 --> 00:47:20,785
'cause I don't think States's gonna let us have school here

870
00:47:20,785 --> 00:47:21,865
in another couple weeks.

871
00:47:22,925 --> 00:47:24,345
And, and again this is, I really don't,

872
00:47:24,415 --> 00:47:27,265
This is, I really do believe Williamstown is probably

873
00:47:27,265 --> 00:47:30,525
gonna lose your schools and this probably isn't

874
00:47:32,135 --> 00:47:33,855
Distinctly doesn't want Williamstown

875
00:47:33,855 --> 00:47:35,215
to have their own school anyway.

876
00:47:35,835 --> 00:47:37,175
No, no. But I think

877
00:47:37,175 --> 00:47:39,455
that's gonna be our next fight on our hands

878
00:47:39,455 --> 00:47:41,575
before we worry about whether or not we put a

879
00:47:42,915 --> 00:47:44,455
Now Sidewalk in for

880
00:47:44,575 --> 00:47:45,575
Em.

881
00:47:45,575 --> 00:47:46,975
Right. Let's, let's put it this way, if you put it in,

882
00:47:47,115 --> 00:47:49,015
I'm pretty sure that not stay.

883
00:47:50,035 --> 00:47:53,455
Oh yes, yes. I'm just saying if we don't have,

884
00:47:53,725 --> 00:47:55,495
there's no kids up there going to school,

885
00:47:56,885 --> 00:47:58,735
Well there, there still would be at the high schools

886
00:47:59,015 --> 00:47:59,895
'cause you have middle school at

887
00:47:59,895 --> 00:48:01,615
least, so that won't go away.

888
00:48:01,615 --> 00:48:03,455
You just wanna have the high school. If that happened,

889
00:48:04,075 --> 00:48:05,175
you just wanna have the high school.

890
00:48:05,395 --> 00:48:07,655
So again, this is a multi-year, like

891
00:48:08,215 --> 00:48:09,335
construction wouldn't happen for

892
00:48:09,335 --> 00:48:10,495
at least probably a couple years.

893
00:48:10,635 --> 00:48:11,935
And then it would be in phases.

894
00:48:12,275 --> 00:48:14,935
So you'd have the blue just connecting the two schools.

895
00:48:14,965 --> 00:48:16,935
That would be phase one, get that done first,

896
00:48:17,765 --> 00:48:19,895
then it would move on in sections from there.

897
00:48:21,685 --> 00:48:24,185
And I totally get what you're saying, Scott,

898
00:48:24,185 --> 00:48:26,145
that's a definitely a big concern.

899
00:48:26,365 --> 00:48:28,425
But like I just,

900
00:48:28,525 --> 00:48:30,865
my my opinion is I think it's still worth it

901
00:48:30,865 --> 00:48:33,425
to con at least start continue with this

902
00:48:34,125 --> 00:48:35,545
and connect the two schools

903
00:48:35,615 --> 00:48:38,225
because we, the elementary schools' going anywhere

904
00:48:38,445 --> 00:48:39,425
and we still have the middle

905
00:48:39,425 --> 00:48:40,545
school that's not going anywhere.

906
00:48:41,325 --> 00:48:43,625
And that's the biggest safety issue as far

907
00:48:43,705 --> 00:48:45,905
as everybody we've talked to is is

908
00:48:46,425 --> 00:48:49,235
that section the kids walking down between the two schools?

909
00:48:51,215 --> 00:48:53,475
Oh yeah. I see a lot more people walking along

910
00:48:53,475 --> 00:48:55,035
Edge Province.

911
00:48:55,425 --> 00:48:57,995
Yeah. Exercising more the older people. Right.

912
00:48:58,495 --> 00:49:00,355
And even if that school gets shut down,

913
00:49:01,335 --> 00:49:04,795
the high school part of it, they're going to, I mean it goes

914
00:49:04,795 --> 00:49:06,875
to the town or whatever, somebody's gonna rent it out

915
00:49:06,895 --> 00:49:08,475
for something and there's gonna be people,

916
00:49:09,095 --> 00:49:10,635
you know, sidewalk's always useful.

917
00:49:11,895 --> 00:49:13,835
What's the plan for funding those projects?

918
00:49:15,235 --> 00:49:18,675
I think part of that is on Ruben's end. Yeah.

919
00:49:18,735 --> 00:49:23,715
So there are multiple state federal grant programs.

920
00:49:24,735 --> 00:49:27,395
You generally, generally looking at

921
00:49:28,615 --> 00:49:30,475
20% match.

922
00:49:30,695 --> 00:49:33,435
So the town put up 20% total cost,

923
00:49:33,435 --> 00:49:35,395
whether 80 come from in state of federal.

924
00:49:37,625 --> 00:49:40,995
Some of 'em times you can find the 10% left other

925
00:49:48,805 --> 00:49:51,195
Friendship Still expensive.

926
00:49:51,295 --> 00:49:55,305
But is is it worth, you know, the safety of the kids

927
00:49:55,445 --> 00:49:57,865
and the people in town, you know,

928
00:49:58,575 --> 00:50:00,305
because that is a constant complaint

929
00:50:00,305 --> 00:50:03,225
and concerns that I've had is the kids walking down

930
00:50:03,225 --> 00:50:04,985
that side there and I mean they're right,

931
00:50:05,295 --> 00:50:06,625
they're right on your call.

932
00:50:07,125 --> 00:50:09,225
You know, one kid gets pushed, one kid slips.

933
00:50:10,105 --> 00:50:12,105
I mean does is it gonna take a kid getting run over

934
00:50:12,165 --> 00:50:13,905
for us to do something about it? Like

935
00:50:14,255 --> 00:50:16,305
I've seen, I've seen kids get pushed

936
00:50:16,305 --> 00:50:18,145
because they used to drop my grandkids,

937
00:50:18,175 --> 00:50:20,985
pick up my grandkids up there at the high school.

938
00:50:22,855 --> 00:50:24,985
I've seen kids being pushed and Oh yeah.

939
00:50:25,165 --> 00:50:28,485
Ending up in the road between the two schools. Yeah.

940
00:50:29,465 --> 00:50:31,755
And they need some,

941
00:50:33,675 --> 00:50:34,975
I'm not really crossing guards,

942
00:50:34,975 --> 00:50:37,535
but they need somebody supervising the walk between

943
00:50:38,315 --> 00:50:40,775
the schools and maybe teaching these kids

944
00:50:40,775 --> 00:50:43,135
what their folks should taught 'em from,

945
00:50:44,365 --> 00:50:45,705
you know, how do you act in public?

946
00:50:48,885 --> 00:50:51,585
But they are kids so you know, what are you gonna do?

947
00:50:51,845 --> 00:50:54,505
But there is definitely the long term thought

948
00:50:54,505 --> 00:50:57,665
of is there gonna be a lot of use there, you know, as far

949
00:50:57,665 --> 00:50:58,945
as this other stuff for sure.

950
00:50:59,125 --> 00:51:02,065
But yeah, my, I think right now we just have to decide on

951
00:51:03,875 --> 00:51:06,855
do we move ahead with the planning process and what route?

952
00:51:07,395 --> 00:51:08,615
And then again it would be we,

953
00:51:08,615 --> 00:51:12,335
because we can always do, we do the a, the the two schools

954
00:51:12,355 --> 00:51:15,095
and then we decide and that might, that's gonna be two,

955
00:51:15,095 --> 00:51:16,815
three years down the road, whatever it's gonna be.

956
00:51:17,035 --> 00:51:19,095
And by that time the state says X, Y, Z

957
00:51:19,095 --> 00:51:20,575
and we go, okay, well now we're not gonna continue

958
00:51:20,575 --> 00:51:22,295
with the rest of the sidewalk.

959
00:51:22,355 --> 00:51:24,695
We can, we can choose to do that. We do it in pieces.

960
00:51:25,705 --> 00:51:27,165
So you talked about doing a sidewalk

961
00:51:27,315 --> 00:51:29,645
between the two schools and to go nowhere

962
00:51:30,595 --> 00:51:31,965
Just to connect the two schools

963
00:51:31,965 --> 00:51:33,125
because there's a lot of kids

964
00:51:33,125 --> 00:51:35,685
that walk from the middle high school down

965
00:51:36,145 --> 00:51:37,165
and either get picked up

966
00:51:37,165 --> 00:51:39,285
or they pick up their siblings at the elementary school.

967
00:51:40,905 --> 00:51:42,875
Yeah, I mean I feel like if anything I,

968
00:51:43,735 --> 00:51:45,795
my opinion would be that to do

969
00:51:45,795 --> 00:51:48,635
between the two schools if you think kids will take either

970
00:51:48,635 --> 00:51:50,835
route, whichever, whether we put a sidewalk

971
00:51:50,895 --> 00:51:51,995
on one side or the other.

972
00:51:52,045 --> 00:51:54,795
Right. I think kids are gonna go whichever way they want.

973
00:51:54,935 --> 00:51:57,635
Yep. But I do agree as a past student

974
00:51:58,055 --> 00:51:59,275
and to a parent that

975
00:51:59,585 --> 00:52:02,595
between the two schools if is probably more dangerous than

976
00:52:03,825 --> 00:52:05,565
having a full cycle with that.

977
00:52:09,005 --> 00:52:12,245
I don't think this option of going down through

978
00:52:12,265 --> 00:52:14,285
by the veterans park in between the bank

979
00:52:14,285 --> 00:52:15,445
and the church is very good.

980
00:52:15,585 --> 00:52:17,045
We got people backing in and out the bank.

981
00:52:17,675 --> 00:52:19,245
Last thing idea, the church didn't know

982
00:52:19,275 --> 00:52:20,525
what that happen else.

983
00:52:21,555 --> 00:52:24,645
Yeah. Let's there, let's there the church property

984
00:52:24,785 --> 00:52:27,165
or town property, once you get to the veterans place

985
00:52:28,225 --> 00:52:30,565
and that's, and then it be, we'd be crossing the road

986
00:52:31,485 --> 00:52:34,995
right on right around that s

987
00:52:35,505 --> 00:52:36,505
Yeah.

988
00:52:36,505 --> 00:52:38,995
Yeah. The 25 mile an hour that nobody does.

989
00:52:40,755 --> 00:52:45,715
I stay, stay totally on the library side of it. Hmm.

990
00:52:46,545 --> 00:52:50,515
Yeah, They did put a sidewalk section on the

991
00:52:50,515 --> 00:52:52,035
bridge on that side.

992
00:52:53,105 --> 00:52:53,755
They did? Yeah.

993
00:52:58,105 --> 00:53:00,835
Okay. Any other questions?

994
00:53:00,905 --> 00:53:02,195
Anybody else have any questions

995
00:53:02,255 --> 00:53:06,305
for her sometime for

996
00:53:06,305 --> 00:53:07,305
Coming in?

997
00:53:07,305 --> 00:53:08,545
Oh yeah, you're very welcome. And

998
00:53:08,545 --> 00:53:10,225
Like I said, this is the first step

999
00:53:10,805 --> 00:53:15,025
and you know, you all have a lot of decisions

1000
00:53:15,025 --> 00:53:16,025
To make.

1001
00:53:16,485 --> 00:53:18,105
Do you need stuff from us tonight?

1002
00:53:18,105 --> 00:53:20,385
Like any decisions on stuff tonight or

1003
00:53:20,925 --> 00:53:22,865
If you can just formally say

1004
00:53:24,045 --> 00:53:26,365
we accept your, your study. Thank you.

1005
00:53:26,995 --> 00:53:28,485
That includes everything. Just,

1006
00:53:28,715 --> 00:53:30,045
Just our study. Yeah, like the

1007
00:53:30,245 --> 00:53:31,245
Document, the study in general.

1008
00:53:31,245 --> 00:53:32,365
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

1009
00:53:32,585 --> 00:53:34,085
So you don't need the like I think we're

1010
00:53:34,085 --> 00:53:35,405
picking this route tonight. Just

1011
00:53:35,665 --> 00:53:36,665
No.

1012
00:53:36,665 --> 00:53:38,165
Okay. No, and yeah, even,

1013
00:53:38,435 --> 00:53:40,325
even if you said we picked this route tonight,

1014
00:53:40,325 --> 00:53:43,325
you're still not obligated to do that.

1015
00:53:43,325 --> 00:53:45,165
Pursue that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

1016
00:53:45,635 --> 00:53:47,645
Yeah. Okay. So

1017
00:53:49,265 --> 00:53:52,995
Yeah, I, I would just make sure for clarity's sake,

1018
00:53:52,995 --> 00:53:55,435
that accepting the study doesn't create any future

1019
00:53:55,505 --> 00:53:57,755
obligations on the part of the town.

1020
00:53:57,935 --> 00:54:01,275
Yep. It just says, yep, you see that you did the work

1021
00:54:01,575 --> 00:54:05,675
and we accept the work

1022
00:54:05,675 --> 00:54:06,915
that has been done to,

1023
00:54:09,745 --> 00:54:12,195
Okay, so do we need to make a motion?

1024
00:54:13,025 --> 00:54:15,075
Okay, so I just, I make a motion

1025
00:54:15,105 --> 00:54:18,755
that we accept the feasibility study from Du Bois and King.

1026
00:54:20,695 --> 00:54:23,265
Yeah. I'll second that motion page second

1027
00:54:23,365 --> 00:54:24,385
any further discussion.

1028
00:54:26,245 --> 00:54:28,505
So you'll be coming back after do some more homework on

1029
00:54:28,505 --> 00:54:29,545
the universe thing and stuff.

1030
00:54:32,095 --> 00:54:33,825
Okay. I don't, I'd say I'm right

1031
00:54:33,885 --> 00:54:36,545
but I'm pretty sure I have, I'm,

1032
00:54:36,705 --> 00:54:38,505
I don't have it's sacred ground up

1033
00:54:38,505 --> 00:54:39,545
there. You can't touch it.

1034
00:54:39,775 --> 00:54:41,545
Well I don't know if that's necessarily true though

1035
00:54:41,545 --> 00:54:42,985
because I don't know, three, four

1036
00:54:42,985 --> 00:54:46,305
or five years ago the universe was gonna sell that property

1037
00:54:46,305 --> 00:54:48,785
to the town for a dollar so kids could park

1038
00:54:49,095 --> 00:54:51,665
Read the, Because then the town would

1039
00:54:51,665 --> 00:54:52,705
be responsible for Exactly.

1040
00:54:52,805 --> 00:54:55,465
You read the covenant It. No, no, I know I'm saying you

1041
00:54:55,465 --> 00:54:58,505
Can't touch nothing even said

1042
00:54:58,505 --> 00:54:59,505
No to it.

1043
00:54:59,505 --> 00:55:01,865
I know they did uni first wants to pan

1044
00:55:01,865 --> 00:55:03,905
that land off faster than they can keep it.

1045
00:55:04,625 --> 00:55:06,985
Absolutely. You can't put a shovel

1046
00:55:07,005 --> 00:55:08,225
in the ground anywhere is up there.

1047
00:55:10,055 --> 00:55:11,545
Okay. They'll give it to you

1048
00:55:11,545 --> 00:55:12,705
for a dollar, but you can't do nothing.

1049
00:55:13,645 --> 00:55:14,945
So look at it basically.

1050
00:55:16,895 --> 00:55:19,265
Okay, so all in favor of the motion?

1051
00:55:20,005 --> 00:55:23,785
Aye aye. Aye. Opposed? I

1052
00:55:23,935 --> 00:55:26,585
Just have a question on the warrant

1053
00:55:29,935 --> 00:55:34,265
that now is this, we're gonna receive bills from the town

1054
00:55:38,165 --> 00:55:39,975
Once they, are you talking about the tax bill?

1055
00:55:40,715 --> 00:55:43,255
No, the one where the, where you did the warrants

1056
00:55:46,165 --> 00:55:48,785
for everybody and there was,

1057
00:55:48,805 --> 00:55:51,465
is there money on the library is questioning

1058
00:55:54,455 --> 00:55:56,385
what kind of bills?

1059
00:55:56,415 --> 00:56:01,385
Because we put in our budget for whatever this is,

1060
00:56:01,525 --> 00:56:02,745
if it is to do with the payroll.

1061
00:56:03,885 --> 00:56:08,215
And now if we get this bill again this bill

1062
00:56:08,715 --> 00:56:10,055
and it is over a thousand dollars.

1063
00:56:12,945 --> 00:56:14,395
What? Wait, what what Bill,

1064
00:56:14,425 --> 00:56:15,435
what bill are we talking about?

1065
00:56:15,625 --> 00:56:17,995
It's due with workman's comp and stuff.

1066
00:56:18,505 --> 00:56:20,755
Well that, that wasn't on many of these warrants.

1067
00:56:21,625 --> 00:56:25,085
Okay. She's, she's talking about warrant 22 2 0 9.

1068
00:56:25,085 --> 00:56:28,165
Okay. Really it's listed as due from library fund

1069
00:56:29,665 --> 00:56:30,845
on pages two

1070
00:56:31,265 --> 00:56:34,245
and three for passive

1071
00:56:36,125 --> 00:56:40,525
VLCT employment resource on page two,

1072
00:56:40,635 --> 00:56:44,445
it's almost due the bottom paying the packs of dues.

1073
00:56:44,705 --> 00:56:46,805
And then on the second page,

1074
00:56:46,805 --> 00:56:47,965
it's basically on the top quarter

1075
00:56:47,985 --> 00:56:50,805
and the bottom, we'll call it three quarter.

1076
00:56:53,095 --> 00:56:54,165
Which one are you talking about?

1077
00:56:55,635 --> 00:56:57,005
It's the Payroll warrant or

1078
00:56:57,835 --> 00:56:59,525
It's, it's, it's the warrant.

1079
00:56:59,745 --> 00:57:01,165
2 2 2 0 9.

1080
00:57:02,275 --> 00:57:06,885
Alright, we got it on the second page. Second page. Okay.

1081
00:57:07,505 --> 00:57:12,485
If you go down all of the passives,

1082
00:57:12,485 --> 00:57:13,485
just tell where they go.

1083
00:57:14,505 --> 00:57:16,725
But the library says due from library fund

1084
00:57:18,105 --> 00:57:21,445
on the second page it's passive again it says if

1085
00:57:21,575 --> 00:57:25,885
where the account gives their explanation, you know,

1086
00:57:25,885 --> 00:57:28,325
once this property insurance, once this property casually.

1087
00:57:28,325 --> 00:57:29,965
The next one says due from library fund

1088
00:57:30,985 --> 00:57:33,045
and then the VLCT employment resource,

1089
00:57:33,045 --> 00:57:36,085
which is the very first one on that list

1090
00:57:36,185 --> 00:57:38,405
for the page three says due from library fund

1091
00:57:39,095 --> 00:57:41,445
where all the others just list unemployment

1092
00:57:41,445 --> 00:57:42,805
insurance is what she's talking about.

1093
00:57:43,435 --> 00:57:43,725
Okay.

1094
00:57:59,955 --> 00:58:02,005
Yeah, let me double check with Jen.

1095
00:58:02,105 --> 00:58:04,285
But I think those are just part of the,

1096
00:58:04,425 --> 00:58:08,485
the annual dues from, from our insurance company.

1097
00:58:09,655 --> 00:58:14,545
But let me, yeah,

1098
00:58:14,545 --> 00:58:18,705
so there's one for 687 7

1099
00:58:19,045 --> 00:58:21,785
and one for $272 and one for

1100
00:58:21,785 --> 00:58:25,345
72 50, 72.

1101
00:58:25,805 --> 00:58:29,105
That's the one That's the employment resource. Oh PC two?

1102
00:58:30,375 --> 00:58:32,505
Yeah. Let me, let me just double check

1103
00:58:32,505 --> 00:58:34,705
with the treasurer, we'll get that.

1104
00:58:36,255 --> 00:58:40,225
Okay. Because we put in our budget money for Yeah.

1105
00:58:40,225 --> 00:58:41,705
Everything and we get the figure.

1106
00:58:42,685 --> 00:58:45,265
No we have to figure from Jen. Okay. Like this.

1107
00:58:45,365 --> 00:58:47,025
We just couldn't figure out why we were,

1108
00:58:47,365 --> 00:58:49,265
how we should pay this just early in the year.

1109
00:58:49,615 --> 00:58:51,145
Okay. Yeah. Let me just double check.

1110
00:58:51,805 --> 00:58:53,745
I'm not entirely sure on the,

1111
00:58:54,575 --> 00:58:57,785
when the dues are supposed to go up.

1112
00:58:59,005 --> 00:59:01,305
And the other question I have Larry is

1113
00:59:01,985 --> 00:59:04,785
I don't see anywhere in here where

1114
00:59:05,005 --> 00:59:08,265
before there was a section where people could ask questions.

1115
00:59:08,825 --> 00:59:11,625
I don't see anything on the agenda here.

1116
00:59:12,925 --> 00:59:15,465
Public comment that are public questions.

1117
00:59:15,945 --> 00:59:19,945
I forgot what it was listed as where we can ask questions.

1118
00:59:20,575 --> 00:59:23,805
That was the last sideboard now public announcement,

1119
00:59:24,755 --> 00:59:27,005
open public comment. The

1120
00:59:27,005 --> 00:59:28,445
Only place that says public's

1121
00:59:28,685 --> 00:59:30,005
announcements where you could announce

1122
00:59:30,005 --> 00:59:31,005
Stuff.

1123
00:59:31,005 --> 00:59:32,925
Yeah, there used to be something in the, yeah, it used

1124
00:59:32,925 --> 00:59:36,685
to be something about the public comment. Public comment.

1125
00:59:36,705 --> 00:59:38,565
Public comment. Public comment. Yeah.

1126
00:59:38,825 --> 00:59:40,485
Review of open public comment.

1127
00:59:40,745 --> 00:59:43,525
That's just the review though should be right under that.

1128
00:59:44,265 --> 00:59:45,485
That's under set the agenda.

1129
00:59:46,825 --> 00:59:50,445
But that's reviewing and how we that Okay.

1130
00:59:50,985 --> 00:59:52,485
But there were missing one.

1131
00:59:52,535 --> 00:59:55,005
She's right, it was a public announcement.

1132
00:59:55,185 --> 00:59:56,765
It was in that area. It's not that one.

1133
00:59:57,345 --> 00:59:59,645
It was, I don't, I don't, I know you

1134
00:59:59,645 --> 01:00:00,645
Discuss Stuff.

1135
01:00:00,645 --> 01:00:02,925
It was like public. I think she's,

1136
01:00:03,205 --> 01:00:04,725
I think she's saying it used to be down.

1137
01:00:05,115 --> 01:00:06,365
Yeah it might've been down in here.

1138
01:00:06,365 --> 01:00:07,405
Was it before new business?

1139
01:00:07,405 --> 01:00:09,285
Maybe? I don't know where it was.

1140
01:00:09,505 --> 01:00:11,845
No it was, it was if you had all

1141
01:00:11,845 --> 01:00:14,085
of a sudden had questions about something that you had

1142
01:00:14,085 --> 01:00:17,125
to discuss and we listen

1143
01:00:17,785 --> 01:00:20,005
if you had a question sometimes that's

1144
01:00:20,005 --> 01:00:21,045
where you could bring it up.

1145
01:00:21,315 --> 01:00:23,765
Okay. You usually down towards, yeah,

1146
01:00:24,125 --> 01:00:25,325
I know exactly what you talked about.

1147
01:00:25,715 --> 01:00:27,685
Okay. I can add that look back at so

1148
01:00:27,685 --> 01:00:29,565
of old ones you should see it.

1149
01:00:30,955 --> 01:00:33,805
Okay. Thank you for bringing that up. Thank you.

1150
01:00:38,795 --> 01:00:43,485
Okay Brian you wanted to make

1151
01:00:44,145 --> 01:00:45,145
Yep.

1152
01:00:45,705 --> 01:00:46,845
For the board. Some

1153
01:00:46,845 --> 01:00:48,485
of you may know me, some of you may not.

1154
01:00:49,025 --> 01:00:52,605
I'm Brian Foster, I'm pretty much a lifetime resident here

1155
01:00:52,605 --> 01:00:57,285
in and I live on 3 9 9 DuPont Road

1156
01:00:58,265 --> 01:01:00,605
and what I'd like to bring to your attention

1157
01:01:02,495 --> 01:01:06,645
we're just maybe being open-minded to selling some property

1158
01:01:07,625 --> 01:01:10,605
up there where the tower water tower is

1159
01:01:11,555 --> 01:01:14,005
that land up there is owned by Williamstown.

1160
01:01:14,045 --> 01:01:17,405
I think it's 65 acres total where the water tower

1161
01:01:17,505 --> 01:01:21,085
Is And on the very south end of

1162
01:01:21,085 --> 01:01:25,635
that is my property, which is 3 9 9 Mont Road

1163
01:01:25,935 --> 01:01:28,835
and there's a section there, there's a field

1164
01:01:29,815 --> 01:01:33,635
that's sister's my, my property.

1165
01:01:34,175 --> 01:01:36,515
And I'm just looking at maybe if you guys would be

1166
01:01:36,515 --> 01:01:40,865
open-minded in selling it's roughly 25 acres.

1167
01:01:41,325 --> 01:01:46,025
I'm looking at, I don't know if you guys would be

1168
01:01:46,025 --> 01:01:48,585
open-minded to put it on the agenda to look at it

1169
01:01:49,365 --> 01:01:52,905
to see if you would want to sell a portion of that

1170
01:01:54,405 --> 01:01:57,625
and if so, how much you would want to sell it to.

1171
01:02:00,225 --> 01:02:03,825
I got some little bit of homework I did with a counselor,

1172
01:02:05,345 --> 01:02:09,365
but one option is about 13 acres.

1173
01:02:09,675 --> 01:02:12,565
Just the field area I'm looking at maybe some dividing,

1174
01:02:12,785 --> 01:02:13,925
put some houses up there.

1175
01:02:14,925 --> 01:02:17,525
Maybe in the future maybe I wouldn't do nothing.

1176
01:02:19,935 --> 01:02:21,195
But it is just something I'm kind

1177
01:02:21,195 --> 01:02:24,635
of interested in knowing whether you guys were on the south.

1178
01:02:26,995 --> 01:02:28,935
The other option was 25 acres,

1179
01:02:30,685 --> 01:02:35,665
but it's on the very south end of the 65 acres portion

1180
01:02:36,095 --> 01:02:37,145
that the town owns.

1181
01:02:38,045 --> 01:02:40,785
Is that right across from the turn to

1182
01:02:40,785 --> 01:02:41,785
Your road?

1183
01:02:41,785 --> 01:02:45,985
Yep, yep. Right across from me road, that one field. Right.

1184
01:02:46,335 --> 01:02:48,145
It's a field. It kind of looks, I'm looking, that's

1185
01:02:48,145 --> 01:02:49,425
what I'm looking at my phone for the map.

1186
01:02:50,005 --> 01:02:51,585
Go ahead. It kinda looks like a seven

1187
01:02:52,005 --> 01:02:54,265
If you look at the map like I'm looking

1188
01:02:54,895 --> 01:02:57,825
Yeah, I show you

1189
01:02:58,725 --> 01:03:01,345
Joined your property and Charlie Carrier's property

1190
01:03:02,485 --> 01:03:05,705
and water tower property, that was

1191
01:03:05,705 --> 01:03:07,705
where I think they gonna put in solar,

1192
01:03:07,875 --> 01:03:09,625
solar panels at one point it

1193
01:03:09,625 --> 01:03:11,265
Was, but I could And that that

1194
01:03:11,485 --> 01:03:12,505
Up about that for one time.

1195
01:03:12,515 --> 01:03:17,425
Right. That Rear road from 64.

1196
01:03:17,425 --> 01:03:18,825
This is the property right there. Yep.

1197
01:03:18,885 --> 01:03:20,985
And that's your property and this It's my property here.

1198
01:03:21,165 --> 01:03:25,265
Yep. Thank pretty much have that. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

1199
01:03:25,495 --> 01:03:28,105
Yeah to that or maybe just the field area,

1200
01:03:29,325 --> 01:03:33,305
but you know, maybe the future subdivided, which

1201
01:03:35,315 --> 01:03:36,625
maybe not do nothing at all.

1202
01:03:37,785 --> 01:03:40,385
I know for past experience, I don't exactly just

1203
01:03:40,385 --> 01:03:44,265
how it all works, but I'm pretty sure that if the town was

1204
01:03:44,265 --> 01:03:47,025
to sell any property, they would've to make it,

1205
01:03:48,365 --> 01:03:51,055
give it all adjoining land orders that bought

1206
01:03:51,055 --> 01:03:53,095
that opportunity to purchase it.

1207
01:03:53,835 --> 01:03:56,015
And we may have to even put it out

1208
01:03:56,395 --> 01:03:58,095
to bid if we decide to sell it.

1209
01:03:58,095 --> 01:04:01,255
Yeah. But I think that we, I think it reads,

1210
01:04:01,355 --> 01:04:04,175
if I remember right that the joining, when was

1211
01:04:04,175 --> 01:04:07,335
that first option to purchase it ship tell 'em,

1212
01:04:07,335 --> 01:04:08,535
decide that they wanted to sell it.

1213
01:04:09,205 --> 01:04:11,895
Yeah. But there's other things that we need to check into

1214
01:04:11,915 --> 01:04:16,055
as far as the water tower and the isolation area around it.

1215
01:04:17,195 --> 01:04:18,935
You may not be able to do it

1216
01:04:18,935 --> 01:04:20,495
and on it anyway if you wanted do

1217
01:04:20,635 --> 01:04:21,635
So.

1218
01:04:21,635 --> 01:04:22,255
Yeah. And if that's the case,

1219
01:04:22,285 --> 01:04:24,535
then nobody would want it anyway.

1220
01:04:24,545 --> 01:04:27,095
Right, right. So because I, I spoke to Alan

1221
01:04:27,095 --> 01:04:30,785
and Alan would probably say no to that idea.

1222
01:04:31,705 --> 01:04:33,665
I mean I don't know why but

1223
01:04:34,375 --> 01:04:36,625
We'd have to, we'd have to do some research on it

1224
01:04:36,625 --> 01:04:38,745
before we even thought about

1225
01:04:38,745 --> 01:04:40,185
whether we wanted to sell it or not.

1226
01:04:40,455 --> 01:04:44,505
Yeah. I don't know if that's something you can look into

1227
01:04:44,505 --> 01:04:48,705
and maybe come to the board at a later date

1228
01:04:49,235 --> 01:04:50,385
after we figure out.

1229
01:04:50,765 --> 01:04:53,185
Yep. Yeah, I'm just putting it out there

1230
01:04:53,185 --> 01:04:54,665
to see if you guys would be interested

1231
01:04:54,725 --> 01:04:56,185
or if it's even doable. Yeah.

1232
01:04:56,185 --> 01:04:58,625
Alright. It may, it may mean something you already want

1233
01:04:58,625 --> 01:04:59,625
after we

1234
01:04:59,625 --> 01:05:00,785
Find out what, yeah, it may not,

1235
01:05:01,005 --> 01:05:03,625
but just take it one step at a time

1236
01:05:03,685 --> 01:05:06,105
and if you guys decided you wanted to do something with it,

1237
01:05:06,705 --> 01:05:08,705
I could take it first and see if it's even worth building.

1238
01:05:10,005 --> 01:05:12,465
So like I said, there's a certain process we'd have to go

1239
01:05:12,465 --> 01:05:16,185
through in order to do it to be fair to everyone that's

1240
01:05:17,065 --> 01:05:20,285
Do you have an extra copy of that map that I can add

1241
01:05:20,505 --> 01:05:21,845
of the area you're looking at?

1242
01:05:21,965 --> 01:05:24,325
I can. I can give you these. Okay. Yeah.

1243
01:05:27,025 --> 01:05:29,405
But I'll give you everything that I got on. Okay.

1244
01:05:29,645 --> 01:05:31,885
I even got the, the value of the property,

1245
01:05:31,925 --> 01:05:33,165
I did a little homework on it.

1246
01:05:33,165 --> 01:05:34,965
Okay. Yep. I'll take,

1247
01:05:42,095 --> 01:05:42,885
appreciate it.

1248
01:05:43,455 --> 01:05:44,455
Thank you.

1249
01:05:46,595 --> 01:05:48,485
Okay, next item is set the tax rate.

1250
01:05:48,725 --> 01:05:50,165
Roy, you wanna us through that?

1251
01:05:53,195 --> 01:05:58,045
Yeah, so basically the bottom line

1252
01:05:58,585 --> 01:06:03,565
on the new tax rate is we're looking at

1253
01:06:05,085 --> 01:06:09,285
a 4.2% increase versus last year.

1254
01:06:11,905 --> 01:06:13,965
You can see kind of in the middle of the page

1255
01:06:15,695 --> 01:06:20,365
where it says budgeted proposed in 20 26, 27

1256
01:06:21,385 --> 01:06:23,445
and the last fiscal year, the last column

1257
01:06:23,445 --> 01:06:24,485
where it says difference.

1258
01:06:24,785 --> 01:06:25,845
So on the first page you doctor

1259
01:06:25,905 --> 01:06:26,905
On the first page?

1260
01:06:26,905 --> 01:06:30,085
Yep. Yep. Where it says difference to go down to this,

1261
01:06:30,595 --> 01:06:31,605
this line here,

1262
01:06:32,415 --> 01:06:36,205
0.042 is basically a 4.2% increase

1263
01:06:36,755 --> 01:06:38,445
over the tax rate from last year.

1264
01:06:40,135 --> 01:06:44,165
Can't hear you. What was the increase? 4.2%.

1265
01:06:47,625 --> 01:06:49,965
That's where the school Town. Yep.

1266
01:06:52,145 --> 01:06:53,925
How much is this? The town's portion of it?

1267
01:06:56,245 --> 01:06:58,845
I think that is just the town. Is the town Just 0.86.

1268
01:07:01,595 --> 01:07:02,695
Yes. Yep, you're right.

1269
01:07:03,035 --> 01:07:04,175
We don't have the school one yet.

1270
01:07:08,515 --> 01:07:13,325
Last year's school was 1.6, we were 0.81.

1271
01:07:13,325 --> 01:07:14,565
So we were BA basically half

1272
01:07:15,825 --> 01:07:17,525
Of the school Of Yeah.

1273
01:07:18,265 --> 01:07:19,885
Or ours was half.

1274
01:07:20,005 --> 01:07:23,485
I mean it's still, yeah it shows 2.4 6, 7 6 is what

1275
01:07:24,065 --> 01:07:26,845
the total the school in town and then this year.

1276
01:07:27,185 --> 01:07:28,845
So I don't know if the school budgets even,

1277
01:07:30,045 --> 01:07:31,605
I think they decide that at a later date.

1278
01:07:33,175 --> 01:07:36,765
That's a town meeting I believe when they put that through,

1279
01:07:39,335 --> 01:07:40,755
we have no say over that regardless.

1280
01:07:40,855 --> 01:07:41,855
So

1281
01:07:59,475 --> 01:08:00,545
Guess it is what it is.

1282
01:08:01,215 --> 01:08:03,305
Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately

1283
01:08:07,165 --> 01:08:08,385
do better than a lot of towns.

1284
01:08:08,865 --> 01:08:10,665
I was gonna say, say that's double dig it increases.

1285
01:08:10,935 --> 01:08:14,065
Yeah, it's 0.8.

1286
01:08:14,805 --> 01:08:16,645
And the biggest increase was general funds.

1287
01:08:16,745 --> 01:08:20,855
So what was, I'm trying to think,

1288
01:08:20,855 --> 01:08:21,895
what do we do in the general fund

1289
01:08:21,925 --> 01:08:23,535
that was higher? Is that part of the road?

1290
01:08:24,355 --> 01:08:26,725
General fund? The road is separate. That's in the highway.

1291
01:08:26,725 --> 01:08:28,085
Highway fund is separate from general.

1292
01:08:28,945 --> 01:08:30,365
So something that's where

1293
01:08:30,365 --> 01:08:33,285
General fund includes libraries,

1294
01:08:34,315 --> 01:08:36,245
fire department, ambulance.

1295
01:08:36,505 --> 01:08:37,965
But it is, isn't that about

1296
01:08:38,395 --> 01:08:41,325
what our general fund went up was around 4%?

1297
01:08:41,475 --> 01:08:43,565
Well it's gotta be, I'm just saying like if you look at

1298
01:08:43,565 --> 01:08:45,925
the two differences, like all the different nothing,

1299
01:08:45,925 --> 01:08:47,485
There's nothing way outta whack. Yeah. No.

1300
01:08:47,925 --> 01:08:49,685
Previous they should, they should pretty much line up.

1301
01:08:49,835 --> 01:08:51,125
Yeah. Which, Yeah.

1302
01:08:59,725 --> 01:09:04,415
Okay. So what is the dollar amount that we need to prove

1303
01:09:04,435 --> 01:09:05,535
to make sure we get it right?

1304
01:09:07,035 --> 01:09:08,375
Is it a percentage or a dollar amount?

1305
01:09:16,315 --> 01:09:17,895
Amount? I think it's the percentage.

1306
01:09:17,975 --> 01:09:20,335
I think you were looking for a percentage rate or a 0.8.

1307
01:09:20,765 --> 01:09:21,775
Yeah. 86 cents.

1308
01:09:22,285 --> 01:09:23,375
Yeah. Percentage rate

1309
01:09:24,985 --> 01:09:27,295
0.8603.

1310
01:09:27,295 --> 01:09:28,295
Zero zero. Three zero.

1311
01:09:38,225 --> 01:09:39,405
We have a motion on the,

1312
01:09:43,725 --> 01:09:44,905
No one wants to do it, but I'll do it.

1313
01:09:45,985 --> 01:09:49,105
I make a motion to bring the tax rate

1314
01:09:49,125 --> 01:09:53,705
to 0.86030 for the fiscal year

1315
01:09:53,705 --> 01:09:54,865
of 26, 27.

1316
01:09:56,405 --> 01:10:00,065
You got that right? Yeah, that's sir you're second.

1317
01:10:00,375 --> 01:10:02,665
I'll second it. Motion be seconded.

1318
01:10:03,445 --> 01:10:07,025
Any further discussion? All in favor?

1319
01:10:07,885 --> 01:10:09,225
Aye. Aye. Opposed?

1320
01:10:11,855 --> 01:10:12,145
Okay.

1321
01:10:18,015 --> 01:10:20,625
Okay, the next item is continuation

1322
01:10:20,765 --> 01:10:22,785
of the waves down Fast squad.

1323
01:10:26,605 --> 01:10:27,985
I'm gonna recuse myself right now.

1324
01:10:28,855 --> 01:10:33,015
Okay. There's been

1325
01:10:33,805 --> 01:10:34,935
correct me if I'm wrong,

1326
01:10:35,115 --> 01:10:37,015
but the Fast Squad

1327
01:10:37,785 --> 01:10:39,815
would like the fire department to take it over

1328
01:10:42,515 --> 01:10:43,515
It.

1329
01:10:43,515 --> 01:10:46,975
So the fire department has mentioned

1330
01:10:46,975 --> 01:10:49,655
that they would be willing to take over the Fast Squad

1331
01:10:51,575 --> 01:10:54,745
that their membership is willing to participate in, that

1332
01:10:57,485 --> 01:11:00,305
the membership of the Fast Squad solely the Fast Squad has

1333
01:11:00,335 --> 01:11:03,025
lost interest due to the fact that we're not getting called

1334
01:11:03,585 --> 01:11:05,825
nearly as frequent frequently as year one.

1335
01:11:07,805 --> 01:11:10,505
So I essentially, it's myself right now

1336
01:11:10,605 --> 01:11:12,425
and the fire department goes as well.

1337
01:11:13,265 --> 01:11:16,605
So the fire department's willing to

1338
01:11:18,025 --> 01:11:22,595
take over leadership of that leader department,

1339
01:11:23,285 --> 01:11:24,395
speak to that a little bit more.

1340
01:11:25,745 --> 01:11:29,675
Yeah, so we, when it was brought us about it,

1341
01:11:31,545 --> 01:11:34,065
I laid it out to the firemen and,

1342
01:11:34,165 --> 01:11:38,905
and in our meeting I asked everyone to attend.

1343
01:11:39,015 --> 01:11:43,225
Most everyone attended that night. I laid it all out.

1344
01:11:43,885 --> 01:11:47,985
What's, you know, what's being asked of us, if

1345
01:11:48,725 --> 01:11:52,105
had any interest in, you know, taking on the fast squad

1346
01:11:52,845 --> 01:11:56,105
as we know that we'd have to get some, some training and,

1347
01:11:56,125 --> 01:11:57,225
and so on so forth.

1348
01:11:59,965 --> 01:12:02,895
Laid out what my expectations would be if,

1349
01:12:03,635 --> 01:12:06,335
if the fire department was to take on and,

1350
01:12:07,795 --> 01:12:10,175
and at the end of the night was boat, you know,

1351
01:12:10,335 --> 01:12:12,655
I laid it out the boat, handed out a piece

1352
01:12:12,655 --> 01:12:16,295
of paper every one of 'em Came back to

1353
01:12:16,885 --> 01:12:18,855
four 14 to one 14.

1354
01:12:18,995 --> 01:12:22,945
Yes. One no about the fire

1355
01:12:22,945 --> 01:12:24,065
department pursuing it.

1356
01:12:25,705 --> 01:12:27,185
I know you and I had talked shortly

1357
01:12:27,195 --> 01:12:30,025
after that, shortly, shortly about it

1358
01:12:30,645 --> 01:12:34,625
and kind of sounded like it was going dead in the water.

1359
01:12:36,825 --> 01:12:40,585
Hadn't really done anything more with it than

1360
01:12:41,095 --> 01:12:42,425
last couple weeks ago.

1361
01:12:43,465 --> 01:12:45,985
When I heard that this was getting discussed again,

1362
01:12:47,065 --> 01:12:48,105
I brought it back up

1363
01:12:49,605 --> 01:12:53,805
and at that time I had asked again.

1364
01:12:54,745 --> 01:12:58,685
It was, it was the same, it was less people that night,

1365
01:12:59,185 --> 01:13:00,445
but it was the same majority.

1366
01:13:02,065 --> 01:13:04,165
And then I had 'em, you know,

1367
01:13:04,535 --> 01:13:08,325
after the names written right here, had them put a piece

1368
01:13:08,325 --> 01:13:09,325
of paper on the table

1369
01:13:10,065 --> 01:13:12,205
and had them put their names on for anybody

1370
01:13:12,345 --> 01:13:14,125
who was interested in doing it.

1371
01:13:14,605 --> 01:13:19,245
'cause I said I wasn't gonna, I wasn't gonna work to get it

1372
01:13:19,985 --> 01:13:24,765
and work with work for Barry Town and to get this up

1373
01:13:24,765 --> 01:13:26,405
and going if nobody was gonna do it.

1374
01:13:26,915 --> 01:13:29,265
It's, you know, I think I got

1375
01:13:30,365 --> 01:13:33,695
12 names down there now.

1376
01:13:34,475 --> 01:13:38,115
So where I'm out the fire department is, is

1377
01:13:39,515 --> 01:13:42,555
I would behalf to take on to benefit the community.

1378
01:13:43,355 --> 01:13:46,835
I am not, you know, a medical guru like some

1379
01:13:46,835 --> 01:13:47,875
of the others are here.

1380
01:13:49,575 --> 01:13:53,615
But I think, you know, I think it, it is a good thing

1381
01:13:53,995 --> 01:13:57,175
to consider continuing on for wind.

1382
01:13:57,355 --> 01:14:02,005
You know, bury found out on our call

1383
01:14:03,625 --> 01:14:05,685
or out on the transfer or,

1384
01:14:05,705 --> 01:14:08,685
or you know, if they're not housed here

1385
01:14:10,665 --> 01:14:12,320
because out doing other things.

1386
01:14:13,555 --> 01:14:17,195
I don't think kind of like it was set up before.

1387
01:14:17,725 --> 01:14:19,235
Originally it worked.

1388
01:14:21,295 --> 01:14:24,535
I think it, I think if I was the fire department was

1389
01:14:24,535 --> 01:14:28,095
to take on there, there would need to be some written

1390
01:14:28,935 --> 01:14:33,175
expectations laid out between area town and MS

1391
01:14:33,875 --> 01:14:36,335
and fire department and select board.

1392
01:14:37,325 --> 01:14:41,215
Because I'm not gonna put my guys through training,

1393
01:14:41,245 --> 01:14:44,735
getting them up, getting them up to enjoying it

1394
01:14:44,955 --> 01:14:47,255
and then have nothing to, you know, nothing to go to.

1395
01:14:48,475 --> 01:14:52,015
And I, you know, David could speak to Barry 10, I need mask,

1396
01:14:52,155 --> 01:14:54,505
but the misconception

1397
01:14:54,645 --> 01:14:57,345
of the ambulance is here 24 7

1398
01:14:57,445 --> 01:15:01,105
unless it's out of Williamstown golf not happen.

1399
01:15:01,605 --> 01:15:05,175
So I'm looking at it like what's best for the community.

1400
01:15:05,915 --> 01:15:08,015
It, they're out doing something else.

1401
01:15:08,795 --> 01:15:10,855
I'm waiting for another ambulance to come in

1402
01:15:11,445 --> 01:15:16,165
from a different station, then we can help save a life

1403
01:15:16,345 --> 01:15:19,925
or stop the bleeding or do chest compression.

1404
01:15:22,065 --> 01:15:23,965
Try to make someone stay a little bit better until

1405
01:15:24,545 --> 01:15:25,805
the ambulance can get there

1406
01:15:26,505 --> 01:15:29,525
and then, then I support that. But

1407
01:15:30,265 --> 01:15:34,495
We do also think that the biggest probably issue

1408
01:15:34,755 --> 01:15:36,935
to make this work the best that we wanted it

1409
01:15:36,935 --> 01:15:39,135
to is we do have two different dispatching systems.

1410
01:15:40,675 --> 01:15:43,575
But I do think it gets confusing for various city dispatch

1411
01:15:43,635 --> 01:15:46,295
to tell the fire department versus the Fast Squad.

1412
01:15:46,535 --> 01:15:50,055
I think if we're all under one en entity, that might make

1413
01:15:50,055 --> 01:15:51,615
that communication a little bit better

1414
01:15:51,635 --> 01:15:52,815
for Berry City dispatch

1415
01:15:53,885 --> 01:15:56,655
because I think sometimes when Barry Town asks for help,

1416
01:15:56,725 --> 01:15:59,095
they don't know, might not know specifically with a go

1417
01:15:59,095 --> 01:16:00,775
and they're calling the fire department or the Fast Squad.

1418
01:16:00,795 --> 01:16:02,015
That's happened a few times.

1419
01:16:05,235 --> 01:16:07,455
For example, this trauma

1420
01:16:07,455 --> 01:16:09,255
that we had out here not too long ago

1421
01:16:09,255 --> 01:16:10,895
that broughted multiple ambulances,

1422
01:16:10,895 --> 01:16:12,215
but that's why they've been called to that.

1423
01:16:12,715 --> 01:16:14,735
The only reason I started to respond is when they called the

1424
01:16:14,735 --> 01:16:16,735
fire department for air support.

1425
01:16:17,215 --> 01:16:18,815
So I was like, well maybe I should do it,

1426
01:16:18,835 --> 01:16:20,175
but we were not called for that.

1427
01:16:20,795 --> 01:16:22,495
So I found that a little frustrating.

1428
01:16:22,875 --> 01:16:26,295
So I think there's just, there's a communication issue also.

1429
01:16:26,835 --> 01:16:28,295
But I think if we were one entity,

1430
01:16:28,795 --> 01:16:29,895
you know the fire department was

1431
01:16:29,895 --> 01:16:31,175
also fault for the accident.

1432
01:16:31,955 --> 01:16:34,375
The Fast Squad would've also essentially been there.

1433
01:16:34,535 --> 01:16:35,815
'cause we've been trained as members

1434
01:16:35,915 --> 01:16:38,475
of the fire department, if that makes

1435
01:16:38,475 --> 01:16:39,475
Sense.

1436
01:16:39,475 --> 01:16:41,235
Just a clarifying question, real quick comment

1437
01:16:41,255 --> 01:16:43,275
On that One second Steve.

1438
01:16:43,635 --> 01:16:47,465
I, is it that Williamstown is

1439
01:16:47,465 --> 01:16:48,705
different dispatch than

1440
01:16:49,695 --> 01:16:52,465
This has been a problem since than Barry day one?

1441
01:16:52,695 --> 01:16:53,745
Yeah, but but that's,

1442
01:16:53,765 --> 01:16:56,025
and what you're talking about is Williamstown is a different

1443
01:16:56,305 --> 01:16:58,305
dispatch than Correct. Okay. Okay. I was just,

1444
01:16:58,445 --> 01:17:00,705
And I can't believe in this day

1445
01:17:00,705 --> 01:17:03,865
and age that everybody can't get on the same page.

1446
01:17:04,175 --> 01:17:05,585
This is a bunch of,

1447
01:17:07,065 --> 01:17:10,725
I agree And I think a lot of us are doing this web

1448
01:17:10,725 --> 01:17:12,125
of work also agree with that

1449
01:17:12,125 --> 01:17:13,365
Sometimes this this day

1450
01:17:13,365 --> 01:17:15,005
and age, this shouldn't be an issue.

1451
01:17:15,905 --> 01:17:17,725
And I don't know what the answer is but,

1452
01:17:18,065 --> 01:17:20,285
and I was talking to Ryan about this last week.

1453
01:17:20,815 --> 01:17:22,285
We're going to get to the bottom of it

1454
01:17:22,305 --> 01:17:23,365
and I'm gonna figure it out

1455
01:17:23,475 --> 01:17:25,885
because this has been going on now for two years.

1456
01:17:26,675 --> 01:17:29,565
Yeah. Now I've got a little issue.

1457
01:17:30,565 --> 01:17:33,145
Two months ago we needed an ambulance at the house.

1458
01:17:34,895 --> 01:17:39,345
It was over 20 minutes before an ambulance showed up.

1459
01:17:40,595 --> 01:17:43,575
The EMT that showed up was the ambulance was super,

1460
01:17:44,365 --> 01:17:45,695
that gal knew her crap.

1461
01:17:45,765 --> 01:17:48,655
Like you would not believe the driver of

1462
01:17:48,655 --> 01:17:51,095
that ambulance shouldn't have been driving a wheelbarrow

1463
01:17:52,965 --> 01:17:57,255
because he couldn't turn the ambulance around with me trying

1464
01:17:57,255 --> 01:18:00,135
to which, yeah, with me trying to guide him

1465
01:18:00,135 --> 01:18:01,575
because he wouldn't, it was raining in some

1466
01:18:01,795 --> 01:18:03,015
and he wouldn't roll his window down

1467
01:18:03,015 --> 01:18:04,295
enough so I could guide him back.

1468
01:18:04,355 --> 01:18:05,735
He was trying to do it on his own

1469
01:18:05,735 --> 01:18:07,495
and he definitely couldn't back up the mirrors.

1470
01:18:09,615 --> 01:18:11,675
So I have zero faith

1471
01:18:13,055 --> 01:18:15,115
in them right now because of that.

1472
01:18:15,735 --> 01:18:18,755
If my neighbor across the road was having a heart attack,

1473
01:18:18,825 --> 01:18:20,275
he'd be dead before they ever got there.

1474
01:18:21,865 --> 01:18:24,235
That really irritates the hell out of me.

1475
01:18:25,405 --> 01:18:27,985
We used to have an ambulance up at the house quite regular

1476
01:18:28,685 --> 01:18:30,705
and the longest we ever waited for one

1477
01:18:31,595 --> 01:18:32,655
was less than eight minutes.

1478
01:18:35,505 --> 01:18:39,155
That one was all volunteer with nobody supposedly

1479
01:18:39,785 --> 01:18:41,795
stationed here at the public safety building.

1480
01:18:42,815 --> 01:18:44,715
So I think that's a total disaster

1481
01:18:47,495 --> 01:18:50,315
and I was afraid of that from the get go.

1482
01:18:51,335 --> 01:18:52,675
And I'm still upset about it

1483
01:18:52,675 --> 01:18:54,795
and I probably will always be upset about it

1484
01:18:55,935 --> 01:18:57,995
and there's just no excuse for 'em.

1485
01:18:58,865 --> 01:19:02,835
If they can't be in it, we'll do something different.

1486
01:19:04,605 --> 01:19:05,545
But they shouldn't, we shouldn't

1487
01:19:05,545 --> 01:19:07,305
have 'em if they can't do it. I

1488
01:19:07,305 --> 01:19:09,745
Can tell you for sure what we had before wasn't working.

1489
01:19:10,295 --> 01:19:12,305
Well it worked, it worked for us at the house.

1490
01:19:12,375 --> 01:19:14,545
I'll tell you that every time we called for the ambulance,

1491
01:19:14,815 --> 01:19:16,665
like I said, it was less than eight minutes was

1492
01:19:16,665 --> 01:19:17,785
the longest one we ever waited.

1493
01:19:18,405 --> 01:19:19,665
And that was in the winter time

1494
01:19:20,525 --> 01:19:22,615
with snow on the road at midnight.

1495
01:19:24,295 --> 01:19:25,395
So that's my experience.

1496
01:19:25,495 --> 01:19:28,075
And it wasn't just a one or two shot deal

1497
01:19:28,075 --> 01:19:31,715
because my late wife had an ambulance come up quite regular.

1498
01:19:33,375 --> 01:19:34,745
Okay. So I,

1499
01:19:34,925 --> 01:19:37,665
I'm just saying the system right now is failing badly.

1500
01:19:38,825 --> 01:19:40,185
A lot worse than the old one did.

1501
01:19:41,255 --> 01:19:42,425
Well here, one of the

1502
01:19:43,115 --> 01:19:45,185
first time I ever heard anybody complain about

1503
01:19:45,185 --> 01:19:46,185
It.

1504
01:19:46,185 --> 01:19:46,905
Well obviously nobody said anything

1505
01:19:47,095 --> 01:19:49,145
Because before we were getting many,

1506
01:19:49,145 --> 01:19:50,505
many complaints about it. Yeah,

1507
01:19:50,505 --> 01:19:52,465
Well I never had a complaint before

1508
01:19:52,925 --> 01:19:54,825
and like I said, we lived way out of town

1509
01:19:54,845 --> 01:19:57,065
and there was always snow on the road in the wintertime

1510
01:19:57,725 --> 01:20:00,385
in the middle of the night because obviously a town truck

1511
01:20:00,385 --> 01:20:02,785
isn't going out around the clock.

1512
01:20:03,105 --> 01:20:04,145
I mean there's no need of it.

1513
01:20:05,065 --> 01:20:07,485
And you know, when you got six, seven inches

1514
01:20:07,485 --> 01:20:09,525
of snow on the road and the ambulance is there in less than

1515
01:20:09,525 --> 01:20:12,635
eight minutes, I'd say that's pretty good

1516
01:20:13,195 --> 01:20:14,195
Response time.

1517
01:20:15,105 --> 01:20:17,195
Yeah, I won't disagree with you on that.

1518
01:20:19,505 --> 01:20:24,225
I, when I, William and I had the discussion, my biggest fear

1519
01:20:24,225 --> 01:20:28,305
of this is we got a very good fire department, very young,

1520
01:20:28,655 --> 01:20:31,505
very energetic, good, good, good people.

1521
01:20:32,425 --> 01:20:35,745
A lot of towns watching on the news lately are struggling

1522
01:20:35,765 --> 01:20:39,065
to get volunteers for, to fill their fire departments.

1523
01:20:40,725 --> 01:20:44,085
I'm just afraid if you take on this,

1524
01:20:44,915 --> 01:20:46,285
everybody wants to do this.

1525
01:20:46,385 --> 01:20:48,285
All sounds great. We went through this

1526
01:20:48,955 --> 01:20:50,885
with the ambulance squad, we went through it

1527
01:20:50,885 --> 01:20:55,575
with the Fast Squad and a few months into it people start

1528
01:20:56,055 --> 01:20:58,175
dropping off and next thing you go, you got,

1529
01:20:58,175 --> 01:20:59,895
you don't have enough people to make it work.

1530
01:20:59,905 --> 01:21:03,255
Start with, I'm just worried that we would

1531
01:21:04,485 --> 01:21:09,275
burn out our good firemen taking

1532
01:21:09,305 --> 01:21:10,835
this on extra duty on,

1533
01:21:12,175 --> 01:21:15,315
and I dunno they was you Tyler,

1534
01:21:16,355 --> 01:21:19,915
I contacted Barry City dispatch to see how many

1535
01:21:20,515 --> 01:21:22,595
responses the PA squad was dispatched to.

1536
01:21:23,255 --> 01:21:24,315
How many they responded to,

1537
01:21:24,335 --> 01:21:25,755
how many they did not respond to.

1538
01:21:26,935 --> 01:21:31,675
The first page is, yes, this is the first page.

1539
01:21:32,095 --> 01:21:35,315
So lemme see, which was January 1st, 2025,

1540
01:21:35,595 --> 01:21:36,795
December 31st, 2025.

1541
01:21:37,745 --> 01:21:38,745
They responded.

1542
01:21:43,515 --> 01:21:45,355
I got that kind of reiterate pages

1543
01:21:45,355 --> 01:21:46,755
16 calls, they responded to every single call

1544
01:21:46,825 --> 01:21:48,875
That that kind of reiterates what I just said.

1545
01:21:48,875 --> 01:21:50,555
25, they responded to all of them.

1546
01:21:51,575 --> 01:21:54,195
And then this year there was 20 calls they responded to four

1547
01:21:54,845 --> 01:21:55,845
Membership.

1548
01:21:55,845 --> 01:21:59,955
Currently the active members that have one took over leading

1549
01:22:00,515 --> 01:22:04,635
Mont failure, one became a paramedic, it's left me,

1550
01:22:04,715 --> 01:22:06,075
I haven't been able to recruit anybody.

1551
01:22:06,315 --> 01:22:08,275
'cause the last several calls that we've had, most

1552
01:22:08,275 --> 01:22:10,555
of the calls of this year have been left assist only.

1553
01:22:12,615 --> 01:22:14,195
So the fire departs getting called

1554
01:22:14,195 --> 01:22:16,395
for those anyway and then dissolve it.

1555
01:22:16,415 --> 01:22:18,035
The fire department's gonna get called for those.

1556
01:22:18,835 --> 01:22:21,955
I think it makes sense to, to combine them both

1557
01:22:23,975 --> 01:22:25,235
and increase their training.

1558
01:22:25,235 --> 01:22:26,275
They get first aid training

1559
01:22:26,335 --> 01:22:27,955
as a requirement anyway for the department.

1560
01:22:28,055 --> 01:22:31,275
So having a is basically the same thing.

1561
01:22:32,035 --> 01:22:33,155
Maybe adding a little bit more.

1562
01:22:33,215 --> 01:22:38,025
So it wouldn't really be any increased, like a large amount

1563
01:22:38,065 --> 01:22:42,465
of training to add to them to get them going.

1564
01:22:44,045 --> 01:22:46,345
But the response, the, like I,

1565
01:22:46,655 --> 01:22:48,265
year one we have like 10 members

1566
01:22:48,485 --> 01:22:50,545
and now I have pretty much me,

1567
01:22:50,575 --> 01:22:51,665
it's showing up when I'm available

1568
01:22:52,045 --> 01:22:53,625
and I can't be available 24 7.

1569
01:22:54,865 --> 01:22:58,385
But a lot of people stop because of what was being called

1570
01:22:58,405 --> 01:23:00,425
for lip assist or they went off

1571
01:23:00,645 --> 01:23:01,745
and furthered their career,

1572
01:23:01,755 --> 01:23:06,085
which is essentially what we want them to do. But,

1573
01:23:06,425 --> 01:23:07,885
So so you mentioned the majority

1574
01:23:07,885 --> 01:23:10,005
of the calls are Lyft assist for this year.

1575
01:23:10,545 --> 01:23:12,565
That's what Because, because this shows only

1576
01:23:12,775 --> 01:23:14,085
three Lyft assists.

1577
01:23:14,915 --> 01:23:17,165
This is 25 and this one's 26.

1578
01:23:17,435 --> 01:23:20,805
Yeah, this is 26 I 26 the first year.

1579
01:23:21,435 --> 01:23:22,605
Yeah, I know, but I'm, I'm just,

1580
01:23:22,825 --> 01:23:24,405
I'm just saying like you mentioned,

1581
01:23:24,405 --> 01:23:25,805
the majority is list assist,

1582
01:23:25,825 --> 01:23:29,005
but this only shows three lift assists out of the,

1583
01:23:29,445 --> 01:23:32,045
I guess it's technically 19, there's 20 calls,

1584
01:23:32,065 --> 01:23:33,845
but one of them was accidental dispatch.

1585
01:23:33,945 --> 01:23:36,605
So 1919 calls,

1586
01:23:37,245 --> 01:23:39,565
I don't know if, well some

1587
01:23:39,565 --> 01:23:41,805
of these we get auto turn tell the fire department.

1588
01:23:41,985 --> 01:23:43,285
So the fires, I would,

1589
01:23:43,735 --> 01:23:46,045
those ones we yes get called with the fire department.

1590
01:23:49,095 --> 01:23:50,195
We had some calls. Some

1591
01:23:50,195 --> 01:23:52,235
of these motor vehicle accidents might be the interstate

1592
01:23:52,235 --> 01:23:53,835
ones, which we've been dispatched to

1593
01:23:53,835 --> 01:23:55,035
and we're not supposed to go to.

1594
01:23:56,215 --> 01:23:58,995
And what Marie's saying about that, again, there's a qualm

1595
01:23:58,995 --> 01:24:00,995
between having two dispatchers.

1596
01:24:02,595 --> 01:24:04,235
Berry City wasn't getting contacted

1597
01:24:04,235 --> 01:24:06,235
and I, when I was getting this information, I was talking

1598
01:24:06,335 --> 01:24:08,315
to, I can't remember the gentleman's name,

1599
01:24:08,315 --> 01:24:09,395
it's listed on the sheet.

1600
01:24:09,475 --> 01:24:10,555
I don't have it obviously in my hand.

1601
01:24:11,095 --> 01:24:14,115
But Larry, the, the way the, if the public doesn't know,

1602
01:24:14,135 --> 01:24:18,715
the way the 9 1 1 system works, you dial 9 1 1,

1603
01:24:19,695 --> 01:24:22,115
it goes to a larger dispatcher.

1604
01:24:22,455 --> 01:24:24,835
So generally in Williamstown, that's Williston Vermont

1605
01:24:25,585 --> 01:24:29,235
Williston answers the phone says, where do you live?

1606
01:24:29,235 --> 01:24:31,035
Where's the call? Where is it on the interstate?

1607
01:24:31,545 --> 01:24:34,595
Then they type into the computer and get Bar City dispatch.

1608
01:24:35,215 --> 01:24:37,435
But I guess I learned this a day or two ago.

1609
01:24:37,505 --> 01:24:40,355
Lamo dispatch is also is called a psat. Yeah.

1610
01:24:40,775 --> 01:24:44,475
So if it goes just right to Lamo, they're gonna dispatch

1611
01:24:44,655 --> 01:24:46,115
and the caller says Hello,

1612
01:24:47,035 --> 01:24:49,915
I saw a car off the road on I nine near exit five.

1613
01:24:50,615 --> 01:24:52,755
Are there any injuries? No, there are no injuries.

1614
01:24:52,905 --> 01:24:54,475
Boom, fire department gets dispatched.

1615
01:24:54,935 --> 01:24:58,275
But if there are injuries, they're just going

1616
01:24:58,275 --> 01:24:59,915
to dis dispatch the ambulance

1617
01:24:59,915 --> 01:25:01,195
and then maybe the fire department

1618
01:25:01,195 --> 01:25:03,275
and then Berry City will say, okay,

1619
01:25:03,275 --> 01:25:04,875
well there's injuries, we're gonna send both.

1620
01:25:05,815 --> 01:25:08,345
There's just a lack of communication with all of that.

1621
01:25:08,885 --> 01:25:10,025
And I think

1622
01:25:10,025 --> 01:25:12,665
what happened when we got our new ambulance being two

1623
01:25:12,665 --> 01:25:13,825
different dispatch agencies.

1624
01:25:15,245 --> 01:25:17,755
Barry Berry City was both Williamstown ambulances

1625
01:25:17,935 --> 01:25:19,795
and Williamstown Fire Department's dispatcher.

1626
01:25:20,175 --> 01:25:22,355
So they both got dispatched correctly

1627
01:25:22,355 --> 01:25:25,065
because it was the same dispatching agency.

1628
01:25:25,285 --> 01:25:27,985
My previous career in Chitman County,

1629
01:25:28,685 --> 01:25:30,105
my department had a dispatcher.

1630
01:25:30,365 --> 01:25:32,065
The college had a dispatching agency.

1631
01:25:32,805 --> 01:25:34,065
The, I'll be honest,

1632
01:25:34,185 --> 01:25:36,025
south Burlington had a dispatching agency.

1633
01:25:36,215 --> 01:25:37,945
They all had different dispatching agencies.

1634
01:25:38,565 --> 01:25:41,425
But when I went to those other communities, I switched

1635
01:25:41,445 --> 01:25:43,865
to the channel of that, of that community.

1636
01:25:44,325 --> 01:25:47,065
So I'll be honest with everybody worked for Burlington,

1637
01:25:47,065 --> 01:25:48,265
Vermont Fire,

1638
01:25:48,725 --> 01:25:50,265
but if we had medical call at UVM,

1639
01:25:50,265 --> 01:25:51,785
they had their own dispatching frequency.

1640
01:25:52,165 --> 01:25:54,625
So we had to switch from our frequency in Burlington,

1641
01:25:54,625 --> 01:25:59,145
which was called Abel to UVMs to talk to the UVM ambulance.

1642
01:25:59,685 --> 01:26:01,665
And that's the big concern with a lot of this.

1643
01:26:02,365 --> 01:26:04,425
And what I was very surprised

1644
01:26:04,425 --> 01:26:05,985
with when I looked at all the data,

1645
01:26:07,525 --> 01:26:10,385
the Fast Squad was never dispatched to any cardiac arrests.

1646
01:26:11,925 --> 01:26:14,225
And you know, I brought this, so again,

1647
01:26:14,225 --> 01:26:17,465
the public can see this is, it's called team focused CPR.

1648
01:26:18,655 --> 01:26:21,235
So it's also off anyone's a NASCAR fan.

1649
01:26:21,265 --> 01:26:23,715
It's called PIT who CPR. That's actually in the protocol.

1650
01:26:24,495 --> 01:26:28,315
So CPR has changed significantly over the years where

1651
01:26:29,565 --> 01:26:30,635
every two minutes.

1652
01:26:30,895 --> 01:26:34,915
So it's a 30 to two compressions to breaths.

1653
01:26:35,645 --> 01:26:38,275
After that two minutes, the person doing chest

1654
01:26:38,515 --> 01:26:39,555
compressions has to rotate.

1655
01:26:40,015 --> 01:26:43,195
And that reason for that is physical stability

1656
01:26:43,195 --> 01:26:44,515
of the person doing compressions.

1657
01:26:46,345 --> 01:26:48,185
I cannot believe we have not had a cardiac,

1658
01:26:48,285 --> 01:26:49,665
and I don't want to say we've had,

1659
01:26:49,985 --> 01:26:51,985
I don't want cardiac arrest to have in our community.

1660
01:26:52,725 --> 01:26:55,385
The whole point of that is when CPR is being performed,

1661
01:26:55,735 --> 01:26:57,385
it's being performed at the highest level.

1662
01:26:57,405 --> 01:26:59,225
And this came out of Seattle, Washington

1663
01:26:59,715 --> 01:27:00,865
where they started doing this

1664
01:27:00,865 --> 01:27:02,625
and Vermont accepted this protocol

1665
01:27:03,425 --> 01:27:05,065
I would say maybe a decade ago.

1666
01:27:06,045 --> 01:27:10,265
So it it, I don't understand

1667
01:27:11,245 --> 01:27:12,945
how an ambulance that I do believe,

1668
01:27:12,945 --> 01:27:15,985
and I Dave can tell me, I'm not sure how,

1669
01:27:16,065 --> 01:27:18,105
I think there's two to three people on our ambulance

1670
01:27:18,225 --> 01:27:19,425
that are stationed in Williamstown.

1671
01:27:20,125 --> 01:27:23,105
But realistically you need five to seven to be doing CPR.

1672
01:27:24,895 --> 01:27:27,435
So the fast squad was never dispatched over the last two

1673
01:27:27,435 --> 01:27:28,795
years to a cardiac arrest.

1674
01:27:30,065 --> 01:27:31,245
And is that the best care

1675
01:27:32,825 --> 01:27:35,565
for the person in the most significant pain?

1676
01:27:35,955 --> 01:27:37,845
I've been doing EMS since I was 16

1677
01:27:38,585 --> 01:27:40,285
and I'm not patting myself on the back.

1678
01:27:40,515 --> 01:27:43,205
I've had two CPR saves both in Burlington, Vermont

1679
01:27:43,425 --> 01:27:46,205
and one in my current employer where there was lots

1680
01:27:46,205 --> 01:27:48,965
of doctors, lots of medications, lots of nurses.

1681
01:27:50,545 --> 01:27:52,205
But since I was 16 years old

1682
01:27:52,205 --> 01:27:55,165
and I'm now 40, I've only saved three people CPR And

1683
01:27:55,165 --> 01:27:57,125
that was the best circumstance given.

1684
01:27:58,145 --> 01:28:00,325
And two of them, the ones that I saved in my previous

1685
01:28:00,325 --> 01:28:03,245
career, they were cardiac arrest as we showed up.

1686
01:28:04,185 --> 01:28:07,845
So they, they got the advantage that 9 1 1 called,

1687
01:28:08,155 --> 01:28:10,085
they literally lost their pulse while the

1688
01:28:10,085 --> 01:28:11,365
ambulance was pulling into the driveway.

1689
01:28:12,305 --> 01:28:14,885
So CPR was started within 30 seconds.

1690
01:28:16,785 --> 01:28:18,595
William. Yep.

1691
01:28:20,625 --> 01:28:23,635
Just to kind of go back to one question that you,

1692
01:28:24,015 --> 01:28:27,075
you had asked and, and Scott was making a comment on,

1693
01:28:28,095 --> 01:28:29,235
so I'll answer 'em separately.

1694
01:28:31,685 --> 01:28:36,275
The communications medications, I, I believe,

1695
01:28:36,515 --> 01:28:38,955
I mean Dave and I had have been dealing

1696
01:28:39,065 --> 01:28:40,515
with this from day one.

1697
01:28:41,715 --> 01:28:46,275
I think without going back and doing any kind of studies

1698
01:28:46,455 --> 01:28:51,075
and research that I do believe that 9 1 1 end of it

1699
01:28:51,855 --> 01:28:53,195
has gotten a little bit better.

1700
01:28:53,555 --> 01:28:58,515
I do feel that when Berry Town Ambulance gets called

1701
01:28:58,575 --> 01:29:02,685
to an accident that, that the fire department is not fired

1702
01:29:02,685 --> 01:29:05,325
behind there.

1703
01:29:05,485 --> 01:29:09,645
I had gotten questioned on our response time to the,

1704
01:29:10,305 --> 01:29:12,245
the bad accident a couple weeks ago

1705
01:29:14,185 --> 01:29:16,405
and it it led me to think I maybe needed

1706
01:29:16,405 --> 01:29:19,125
to check in the times I checked with both dispatchers.

1707
01:29:19,185 --> 01:29:20,805
We were, we were two minutes

1708
01:29:20,825 --> 01:29:23,485
behind getting called after Barry Town.

1709
01:29:23,765 --> 01:29:27,605
MS not a huge, not not a big deal compared

1710
01:29:27,605 --> 01:29:28,805
to what it used to be.

1711
01:29:29,855 --> 01:29:32,925
Where the communication problems lie now is,

1712
01:29:34,295 --> 01:29:35,615
I don't know, one more I can do.

1713
01:29:35,915 --> 01:29:39,175
We, we program Memorial indoor radio radios,

1714
01:29:39,835 --> 01:29:42,535
we have tried multiple times to reach

1715
01:29:43,225 --> 01:29:44,975
reach Berry town EMS

1716
01:29:46,395 --> 01:29:51,095
and my exact words are Williamstown engine one two

1717
01:29:51,775 --> 01:29:54,015
Berry Town EMS responding, Williamstown

1718
01:29:55,505 --> 01:29:57,805
crickets and crickets.

1719
01:29:58,085 --> 01:30:02,405
I get nothing. I talked to one of the medics here

1720
01:30:03,605 --> 01:30:06,605
a few days later when I caught off to someone and it's

1721
01:30:06,725 --> 01:30:08,805
'cause they don't carry portable radios on 'em.

1722
01:30:09,425 --> 01:30:11,525
So once they're out of the ambulance, they're out, you know,

1723
01:30:12,065 --> 01:30:13,765
all communications, they're lost.

1724
01:30:15,595 --> 01:30:19,545
Sure. It, it, it is a big, that that's just a,

1725
01:30:20,135 --> 01:30:21,985
it's a concern and a pet peeve of mine

1726
01:30:21,985 --> 01:30:24,905
because we need, you know, fire department needs to know

1727
01:30:24,905 --> 01:30:27,545
what we're getting into and we've had two motorcycle

1728
01:30:27,945 --> 01:30:30,945
accidents in Williamstown, this, this, she

1729
01:30:31,625 --> 01:30:32,745
within a month of each other.

1730
01:30:33,565 --> 01:30:35,785
And when you hear motorcycle accident,

1731
01:30:35,845 --> 01:30:37,265
you instantly think the worst.

1732
01:30:37,885 --> 01:30:39,745
So what are we up against?

1733
01:30:40,165 --> 01:30:42,785
And them being right here

1734
01:30:43,205 --> 01:30:45,105
or usually here in the station,

1735
01:30:45,935 --> 01:30:47,145
they're gonna get there first.

1736
01:30:47,545 --> 01:30:49,585
I mean, unless we're sitting here tonight,

1737
01:30:49,585 --> 01:30:53,225
like we are out there, you know, we have a chance

1738
01:30:53,245 --> 01:30:56,505
to race them, but they're gonna, they're gonna beat us

1739
01:30:56,525 --> 01:30:59,545
to the scene all the time as they're here.

1740
01:31:01,365 --> 01:31:04,105
So getting that vital information to know

1741
01:31:04,105 --> 01:31:05,945
what we're up against and, and,

1742
01:31:05,965 --> 01:31:07,625
and where, where I have a problem

1743
01:31:07,625 --> 01:31:12,265
with the communications is, is up at the bad accident.

1744
01:31:12,305 --> 01:31:15,545
A few weeks ago, the discussion

1745
01:31:15,545 --> 01:31:17,705
of needing dark helicopter was brought

1746
01:31:17,765 --> 01:31:20,295
up my incident command.

1747
01:31:20,375 --> 01:31:22,975
I was not at that one. I was on vacation.

1748
01:31:23,115 --> 01:31:28,055
The incident commander was standing in the group of medics

1749
01:31:28,845 --> 01:31:31,135
when this discussion was being brought up.

1750
01:31:32,435 --> 01:31:37,285
We need dark. My incident commander asked you,

1751
01:31:37,425 --> 01:31:42,085
are you asking for Dar I gave him a disgusted look,

1752
01:31:42,555 --> 01:31:46,085
went to the radio, went through the MO memorial, had

1753
01:31:46,085 --> 01:31:47,085
to then get a hold of us.

1754
01:31:47,645 --> 01:31:50,525
I don't know how much better we give when your face to face.

1755
01:31:51,675 --> 01:31:55,045
Boom boom. I mean a whole that that,

1756
01:31:55,045 --> 01:31:56,685
that's just a whole nother discussion.

1757
01:31:56,785 --> 01:31:59,645
But I think the issues we were having

1758
01:31:59,645 --> 01:32:02,005
between fire department not getting called

1759
01:32:02,225 --> 01:32:03,925
and marytown EMS getting called

1760
01:32:03,925 --> 01:32:06,765
and Dave, maybe you, you can agree or best disagree,

1761
01:32:06,765 --> 01:32:09,085
but I think that has gotten a little bit better.

1762
01:32:09,195 --> 01:32:12,445
It's now the communications when we're on scene.

1763
01:32:14,475 --> 01:32:15,735
So there's my answer to that

1764
01:32:16,635 --> 01:32:19,295
and to yours about people getting burnt out.

1765
01:32:20,095 --> 01:32:23,815
I I, I laid it, like I said, I laid it all out to 'em

1766
01:32:25,835 --> 01:32:30,805
my expectations if, you know, if we continue on with it,

1767
01:32:32,395 --> 01:32:37,245
Dave, you know, was agreement of it, you know, people,

1768
01:32:38,865 --> 01:32:39,985
I feel the fire department

1769
01:32:39,985 --> 01:32:41,865
and I don't wanna speak for all the firemen,

1770
01:32:42,405 --> 01:32:46,185
but we come here on Monday nights because it's fun.

1771
01:32:46,845 --> 01:32:48,825
We go to the calls because we have a good

1772
01:32:48,825 --> 01:32:49,865
time helping people.

1773
01:32:50,445 --> 01:32:54,265
Our job is to help somebody on their worst day try

1774
01:32:54,265 --> 01:32:55,585
to make 'em all try

1775
01:32:55,585 --> 01:32:57,825
to make their worst day a little bit better.

1776
01:32:59,245 --> 01:33:03,185
And do we have fun doing it? Yeah, we have fun doing it.

1777
01:33:03,665 --> 01:33:05,625
We don't do it for the money, we don't do it

1778
01:33:05,625 --> 01:33:06,785
for a slap on the back.

1779
01:33:07,925 --> 01:33:09,305
We just want to simply help people.

1780
01:33:09,885 --> 01:33:14,035
And I think when the people

1781
01:33:14,035 --> 01:33:16,875
that actually put their names down on here, some

1782
01:33:16,875 --> 01:33:18,875
of 'em actually surprised me that they,

1783
01:33:19,215 --> 01:33:20,475
you know, would want to do it.

1784
01:33:21,255 --> 01:33:24,315
But it all comes back to, you know what, you know,

1785
01:33:24,315 --> 01:33:26,715
what more can we do to help the community?

1786
01:33:29,105 --> 01:33:33,645
You know, Tyler could probably could either answer to it

1787
01:33:33,645 --> 01:33:37,405
or whatnot, but I hold, I hold the guys

1788
01:33:37,785 --> 01:33:40,485
and gals to a, you know, a standard of

1789
01:33:41,105 --> 01:33:43,645
if you're gonna do this, you're gonna, you're gonna do it

1790
01:33:43,665 --> 01:33:44,965
and if you're not gonna do it,

1791
01:33:45,675 --> 01:33:47,325
then you need to need to move on.

1792
01:33:47,705 --> 01:33:50,445
You need to put in the effort, you need to put in the time,

1793
01:33:50,985 --> 01:33:52,765
you need to put in the training hours.

1794
01:33:54,545 --> 01:33:56,965
And I think people come here on Monday nights, not

1795
01:33:56,965 --> 01:33:58,845
because it's a requirement but

1796
01:33:58,845 --> 01:34:00,765
because it's not, it's something

1797
01:34:00,905 --> 01:34:02,165
to do with help the community.

1798
01:34:03,665 --> 01:34:05,485
So if it is done right

1799
01:34:05,985 --> 01:34:10,965
and if it is done the way we can all agree on it being done,

1800
01:34:12,115 --> 01:34:15,805
getting those calls going out, having a thrill of coming,

1801
01:34:17,725 --> 01:34:21,595
I I truly think it could be, could be sustainable

1802
01:34:22,295 --> 01:34:25,035
and go, I don't, you know, we all agree

1803
01:34:25,735 --> 01:34:27,515
we don't wanna be like some

1804
01:34:27,515 --> 01:34:29,715
of the other fast squads in the area.

1805
01:34:29,895 --> 01:34:31,515
We don't wanna go with everything.

1806
01:34:31,955 --> 01:34:35,055
'cause as I'm sure Berry Town can agree,

1807
01:34:35,135 --> 01:34:37,575
I mean sometimes you probably just are in the way

1808
01:34:37,915 --> 01:34:39,535
and you don't need that many people.

1809
01:34:41,355 --> 01:34:44,055
But when the ambulance is coming from, you know, Berlin

1810
01:34:44,355 --> 01:34:45,695
or East Berry or,

1811
01:34:45,755 --> 01:34:48,575
or back from the hospital, wherever it's coming from

1812
01:34:49,755 --> 01:34:51,295
and there's a fireman down the road

1813
01:34:51,485 --> 01:34:53,975
that can start pumping on your chest

1814
01:34:54,235 --> 01:34:58,725
or holding on the bleed until more supplies and,

1815
01:34:58,905 --> 01:35:03,605
and more trained people get there, then I,

1816
01:35:03,765 --> 01:35:06,965
I really, really can't argue with not doing it.

1817
01:35:07,185 --> 01:35:10,245
So that that's, that's where we're at.

1818
01:35:11,985 --> 01:35:15,205
If you guys decide you don't wanna do it, you don't want us

1819
01:35:15,365 --> 01:35:19,025
to continue it on, you know, that's fine.

1820
01:35:20,565 --> 01:35:24,585
But it just seems like we should we, we should try

1821
01:35:26,965 --> 01:35:29,265
it is something that you consider and wanting us to do

1822
01:35:29,525 --> 01:35:30,625
or continue on.

1823
01:35:31,245 --> 01:35:34,065
All I ask is that between Barry County EMS

1824
01:35:34,145 --> 01:35:37,265
and you, you give us a year, give us a year to try it,

1825
01:35:37,905 --> 01:35:40,585
give us a year to show that we're doing it

1826
01:35:40,605 --> 01:35:42,785
and that we don't hold up our end

1827
01:35:44,565 --> 01:35:45,905
and you can send us all down,

1828
01:35:46,135 --> 01:35:48,785
send us all down the road after. As

1829
01:35:48,785 --> 01:35:51,345
Far as the monetary end of it,

1830
01:35:51,345 --> 01:35:54,145
you think you can stay within that $12,000 budget

1831
01:35:54,215 --> 01:35:57,985
that we originally proposed for the fast what

1832
01:35:58,305 --> 01:35:59,305
I did?

1833
01:35:59,305 --> 01:36:01,185
I mean even I think even between the fire budget.

1834
01:36:02,785 --> 01:36:05,225
'cause at that point it's all,

1835
01:36:05,385 --> 01:36:07,425
I think it all become one budget as far

1836
01:36:07,425 --> 01:36:09,505
as the pay payroll goes.

1837
01:36:12,175 --> 01:36:14,935
I do. I mean if you, if you take the additional 12,000

1838
01:36:14,955 --> 01:36:18,935
and slap it in there, you know, again, I don't,

1839
01:36:20,145 --> 01:36:21,575
David could probably come out

1840
01:36:21,575 --> 01:36:23,095
and rattle some numbers at some point.

1841
01:36:24,275 --> 01:36:25,935
I'm not saying that we're gonna go to a hundred

1842
01:36:25,995 --> 01:36:28,015
and assist calls.

1843
01:36:28,695 --> 01:36:32,265
I, you know, but I, I think that budget

1844
01:36:33,095 --> 01:36:37,105
between our fire budget could be sustainable.

1845
01:36:37,345 --> 01:36:39,545
I don't, I don't think we've gone over

1846
01:36:40,255 --> 01:36:42,825
payroll in the last couple of years that it is.

1847
01:36:45,045 --> 01:36:48,425
But yes, you've gotta, you gotta account they, you know,

1848
01:36:48,425 --> 01:36:49,625
they would be going to more

1849
01:36:50,045 --> 01:36:51,585
and it wouldn't be, it wouldn't,

1850
01:36:52,405 --> 01:36:54,105
it would not be like the fire department.

1851
01:36:54,105 --> 01:36:56,465
Like right now you've got, you know,

1852
01:36:56,465 --> 01:36:59,945
when a fire call comes in, you get called people

1853
01:37:01,295 --> 01:37:03,985
when when the fast broad calls come in, especially

1854
01:37:03,985 --> 01:37:08,905
during the day might get one, you might get two at night,

1855
01:37:08,965 --> 01:37:10,185
you might get four or five.

1856
01:37:10,765 --> 01:37:14,025
And that's something that I, I did portray

1857
01:37:14,045 --> 01:37:17,145
to the firemen when we were discussed at both times that

1858
01:37:18,845 --> 01:37:23,345
if you're, if you hear two, three people sign on, that is,

1859
01:37:23,525 --> 01:37:24,905
you know, dream with

1860
01:37:24,905 --> 01:37:27,785
what the ambulance is when an ambulance is coming.

1861
01:37:28,045 --> 01:37:31,705
So three or four people sign on that you're going to it.

1862
01:37:31,765 --> 01:37:35,025
That's probably, you know, probably enough

1863
01:37:35,025 --> 01:37:38,745
and we don't need to send 12 people to do it.

1864
01:37:41,285 --> 01:37:42,905
Ask for supplies. We still have a bunch

1865
01:37:42,905 --> 01:37:44,665
of stuff left over from the ambulance

1866
01:37:45,895 --> 01:37:48,705
that does not fire just like gauze and stuff

1867
01:37:48,705 --> 01:37:50,585
and still a bunch of that to redo

1868
01:37:50,655 --> 01:37:51,785
kits for all of the trucks.

1869
01:37:52,315 --> 01:37:54,865
Right now they have just little back first day kits.

1870
01:37:54,865 --> 01:37:56,885
So I would do bigger kits for them

1871
01:37:57,725 --> 01:38:00,205
so they have more supplies on each truck.

1872
01:38:00,645 --> 01:38:03,525
But we have plenty and coats in that closet

1873
01:38:03,635 --> 01:38:05,205
that would get 'em going.

1874
01:38:07,325 --> 01:38:08,845
I think the only supply that we need to exchange

1875
01:38:08,845 --> 01:38:10,605
for them is a DD pads that are expired.

1876
01:38:12,665 --> 01:38:16,445
But everything else could is well

1877
01:38:16,825 --> 01:38:19,325
and the past, the plan was anyway, if we have anything

1878
01:38:19,435 --> 01:38:20,565
that was due to expire,

1879
01:38:20,565 --> 01:38:22,645
we swap out very down that we do something.

1880
01:38:23,225 --> 01:38:26,405
I'm assuming that would be the same contract if, if

1881
01:38:28,785 --> 01:38:32,965
our fast flood state license does expire in December.

1882
01:38:33,225 --> 01:38:36,285
So if we decide not to switch it over,

1883
01:38:36,545 --> 01:38:39,645
the passport essentially would be done in December.

1884
01:38:41,185 --> 01:38:44,725
But I'd like to see the fire department take it on

1885
01:38:44,865 --> 01:38:49,365
and I would still be an active member and assist.

1886
01:38:50,085 --> 01:38:52,045
I just, I can't do it by myself right now.

1887
01:38:52,125 --> 01:38:54,565
I can't get people who want to join

1888
01:38:54,565 --> 01:38:56,805
and the fire department's being called anyway so.

1889
01:38:57,495 --> 01:38:59,725
Right. That goes the next question.

1890
01:38:59,845 --> 01:39:03,845
I mean I've said this in the past, you know,

1891
01:39:04,045 --> 01:39:05,845
Williamstown's a town

1892
01:39:05,845 --> 01:39:10,165
of population roughly 3,700 people versus Berry City,

1893
01:39:10,515 --> 01:39:14,085
bumpier Berry town of 10 to 12,000 people.

1894
01:39:14,945 --> 01:39:18,805
We can't, we can't compete service wise with the,

1895
01:39:19,025 --> 01:39:20,845
we get a very good thing with Berry Town

1896
01:39:21,915 --> 01:39:26,345
with their service at a very,

1897
01:39:26,445 --> 01:39:27,465
you know, reasonable price.

1898
01:39:27,515 --> 01:39:29,545
We're we're paying less now than we used to pay.

1899
01:39:29,685 --> 01:39:33,425
We had our own stuff and it's a higher level of service.

1900
01:39:34,305 --> 01:39:36,505
I guess the real question is, is there really need

1901
01:39:36,525 --> 01:39:39,225
for set Fast Squad to start with with with

1902
01:39:39,225 --> 01:39:40,425
what we have at Barry Town?

1903
01:39:40,625 --> 01:39:43,745
I mean we, like you just said, you started it,

1904
01:39:44,375 --> 01:39:45,785
everybody's enthusiastic.

1905
01:39:45,905 --> 01:39:47,745
I was involved in those very first meetings.

1906
01:39:48,325 --> 01:39:51,505
It was kind of a gentle letdown from the ambulance squad

1907
01:39:51,565 --> 01:39:54,905
to give him up to, to this fast squad thing.

1908
01:39:57,145 --> 01:39:59,225
I like that few people. I'd like to,

1909
01:39:59,665 --> 01:40:01,585
I said it started out good The squad meeting,

1910
01:40:01,695 --> 01:40:03,385
Then it fizzles out just like the,

1911
01:40:03,385 --> 01:40:04,705
just like the ambulance was doing

1912
01:40:05,125 --> 01:40:07,225
before we made the decision to do what we do.

1913
01:40:09,145 --> 01:40:13,185
I guess my question would be to Dave, you see

1914
01:40:14,345 --> 01:40:16,985
I was talking to with your CH select board chairman

1915
01:40:17,765 --> 01:40:19,025
and one issue William

1916
01:40:19,025 --> 01:40:21,785
and I talked about was you were transporting the,

1917
01:40:21,785 --> 01:40:24,505
the ambulance outta here one time

1918
01:40:24,565 --> 01:40:27,105
and there was a lag time in what incident?

1919
01:40:27,145 --> 01:40:28,985
I don't remember. It was not recently

1920
01:40:29,085 --> 01:40:31,065
but what years or so ago, whatever.

1921
01:40:31,125 --> 01:40:35,785
No, and it was in the spring Snow was Mel. So,

1922
01:40:36,565 --> 01:40:38,185
But he, he informed me

1923
01:40:38,185 --> 01:40:40,585
that you bought a new ambulance just for transport.

1924
01:40:42,445 --> 01:40:44,065
Yes. So is that,

1925
01:40:44,095 --> 01:40:46,545
that helped alleviate any issues like that or

1926
01:40:47,175 --> 01:40:49,665
Yeah, so I can give you a kind of a broad overview

1927
01:40:49,805 --> 01:40:51,105
to address a few things.

1928
01:40:52,605 --> 01:40:56,685
So yes we did, we did buy a transport unit that works

1929
01:40:58,385 --> 01:41:00,645
12 hours a day handling you know, non bunch

1930
01:41:00,645 --> 01:41:02,085
of transports from the majority of the time

1931
01:41:02,885 --> 01:41:04,445
there's gonna be overlapping calls.

1932
01:41:04,625 --> 01:41:07,445
You know, there's gonna be times when we're not in the

1933
01:41:07,445 --> 01:41:09,205
station 'cause we're out on another call, you know,

1934
01:41:09,725 --> 01:41:11,965
transporting, coming back from hospitals believe that like

1935
01:41:11,965 --> 01:41:15,605
that in, since we've been here

1936
01:41:16,755 --> 01:41:19,805
January 1st of 24, we've handled just shy

1937
01:41:19,805 --> 01:41:22,805
of 1459 1 1 calls in the town of Williamstown.

1938
01:41:23,745 --> 01:41:27,845
Our average time of call to on scene for all of those calls.

1939
01:41:27,945 --> 01:41:29,925
Now some are gonna be a little longer depending on

1940
01:41:29,925 --> 01:41:31,285
where we are and time are gonna be shorter,

1941
01:41:31,305 --> 01:41:33,245
but our average time is eight minutes and nine seconds.

1942
01:41:35,505 --> 01:41:37,165
So I'm happy

1943
01:41:37,165 --> 01:41:39,205
to look at specifics if people bring them to me.

1944
01:41:39,225 --> 01:41:42,525
But to see, you know, if there was some issue like,

1945
01:41:42,555 --> 01:41:43,725
like I said, there's gonna be some

1946
01:41:43,725 --> 01:41:45,205
that are a little longer depending on where you live.

1947
01:41:45,205 --> 01:41:48,245
Even coming from here to, you know, different places

1948
01:41:49,225 --> 01:41:52,045
as William Tyler alluded to is the nine one one system

1949
01:41:53,065 --> 01:41:55,005
you call 9 1 1 I get threeway

1950
01:41:55,005 --> 01:41:56,725
to the dispatch center, get three relay to us.

1951
01:41:56,755 --> 01:41:58,165
That all takes some time.

1952
01:41:59,465 --> 01:42:03,605
To Tyler's point, I can't give specifics obviously,

1953
01:42:03,625 --> 01:42:06,325
but we have had two cardiac arrest in the last

1954
01:42:06,525 --> 01:42:07,565
18 months of Williamstown.

1955
01:42:07,805 --> 01:42:09,045
Cultural rotations are still alive.

1956
01:42:10,385 --> 01:42:13,205
We do invest heavily in technology

1957
01:42:15,025 --> 01:42:17,605
and we have auto pulses on our trucks.

1958
01:42:18,185 --> 01:42:21,085
So the two that I speak of, I, I could look back

1959
01:42:21,265 --> 01:42:22,845
and see if there's other ones that I, that I,

1960
01:42:23,015 --> 01:42:24,645
these ones I'm specifically knowledge about

1961
01:42:24,645 --> 01:42:28,725
because we give our providers a an commendation if they say

1962
01:42:28,725 --> 01:42:32,445
someone's life, one of 'em when the cardiac arrest

1963
01:42:32,625 --> 01:42:33,965
as our crew walked through the door

1964
01:42:33,965 --> 01:42:35,965
and the other one at some point between the call

1965
01:42:35,965 --> 01:42:37,565
and when they got there with the difficulty breathing.

1966
01:42:39,465 --> 01:42:40,885
So, but we have all pulses.

1967
01:42:40,985 --> 01:42:42,405
So if the patient is in cardiac arrest,

1968
01:42:42,435 --> 01:42:43,525
they get put on a machine

1969
01:42:43,525 --> 01:42:45,805
and that machine does the compressions for us.

1970
01:42:47,695 --> 01:42:50,635
But I'm not saying that if we work coming from ways

1971
01:42:50,635 --> 01:42:52,435
where it's not beneficial to that health because it is.

1972
01:42:53,095 --> 01:42:57,435
So I would never talk a town out of taking care

1973
01:42:57,435 --> 01:42:59,395
of people in their own community even, you know,

1974
01:42:59,395 --> 01:43:03,515
if we are here and because there's, there's unknowns, right?

1975
01:43:03,515 --> 01:43:06,355
There's, if there's a structure fire and we're there

1976
01:43:06,375 --> 01:43:07,555
and there's a call across town,

1977
01:43:07,575 --> 01:43:08,835
if we're coming back from the hospital,

1978
01:43:08,835 --> 01:43:13,235
if we're on another call to Marie's point, we

1979
01:43:14,255 --> 01:43:15,995
can exchange equipment so that wouldn't

1980
01:43:15,995 --> 01:43:20,115
or you know, help provide some of the extra equipment if the

1981
01:43:20,745 --> 01:43:22,155
fire departments to take it on.

1982
01:43:23,215 --> 01:43:25,755
We also have the capacity to handle the training

1983
01:43:26,655 --> 01:43:30,115
so we can do the classes or whatever is needed for the task.

1984
01:43:31,615 --> 01:43:36,315
So to that point, you know,

1985
01:43:37,205 --> 01:43:39,435
we're here, we're providing the service

1986
01:43:39,465 --> 01:43:41,915
that everyone's come to expect.

1987
01:43:42,895 --> 01:43:47,395
But I wouldn't say, I wouldn't advise against it

1988
01:43:47,395 --> 01:43:49,435
because that's just not like, I don't,

1989
01:43:49,495 --> 01:43:51,035
I'm not gonna advise the community not

1990
01:43:51,465 --> 01:43:54,005
to have their own members care for their own people

1991
01:43:55,075 --> 01:43:57,085
when they have the option now.

1992
01:43:57,745 --> 01:44:01,925
So to the thing we're seeing there is a downward trend of,

1993
01:44:02,425 --> 01:44:04,485
you know, fast squads in the area that are struggling.

1994
01:44:06,025 --> 01:44:10,165
We have seen some successes with the, you know,

1995
01:44:10,275 --> 01:44:11,445
combining the entities

1996
01:44:11,445 --> 01:44:14,885
because you can see a little bit of a lesser response.

1997
01:44:14,945 --> 01:44:18,445
So like to William's point, call comes out for help.

1998
01:44:19,065 --> 01:44:21,165
He doesn't need to send 20 people every time,

1999
01:44:21,665 --> 01:44:22,685
you know, they can either.

2000
01:44:22,685 --> 01:44:24,245
However he wants to run his operation,

2001
01:44:24,245 --> 01:44:26,685
have a little call sign up sheet where he is gonna have two

2002
01:44:26,685 --> 01:44:29,405
or three people work to his 0.2 or three people sign on.

2003
01:44:29,825 --> 01:44:31,125
That's good enough for this call.

2004
01:44:34,435 --> 01:44:38,415
And you know, I think it does help with

2005
01:44:38,965 --> 01:44:41,335
when the fire department, when it's one combined it to be,

2006
01:44:42,635 --> 01:44:45,415
it helps with a lot of things communication

2007
01:44:45,715 --> 01:44:46,815
to both of their points.

2008
01:44:46,885 --> 01:44:50,495
It's, it can be dicey dispatching when you're talking about

2009
01:44:50,495 --> 01:44:53,535
9 1 1 multiple dispatch centers, multiple agencies.

2010
01:44:53,635 --> 01:44:56,975
So there is some utility in in consolidating

2011
01:44:56,975 --> 01:44:58,295
that into one system.

2012
01:45:00,035 --> 01:45:02,135
It also gives us a better opportunity to train

2013
01:45:02,135 --> 01:45:05,215
with one entity if, you know, if they want

2014
01:45:05,215 --> 01:45:07,295
to do education training or whatever that training is

2015
01:45:07,295 --> 01:45:10,175
and then we can be involved in it also helps

2016
01:45:10,175 --> 01:45:11,935
with the departmental of communication.

2017
01:45:13,485 --> 01:45:16,175
With any luck Scott, we're gonna have,

2018
01:45:16,855 --> 01:45:18,895
I hope in Vermont in the next year

2019
01:45:18,895 --> 01:45:22,015
or two, hopefully sooner, a statewide CAD system,

2020
01:45:22,735 --> 01:45:25,415
computer aid, computer computerated dispatching which will

2021
01:45:25,415 --> 01:45:29,975
go to great lengths to solve decade old problems in Vermont

2022
01:45:29,995 --> 01:45:32,015
of emergency communication.

2023
01:45:32,565 --> 01:45:35,135
It's not isolated to Berry Town or Williamstown

2024
01:45:35,195 --> 01:45:37,135
or it's a statewide problem

2025
01:45:37,685 --> 01:45:41,575
that the state is just a vested $11 million in a statewide

2026
01:45:41,645 --> 01:45:43,335
task force to look at all these issues

2027
01:45:43,335 --> 01:45:44,695
because it's been such an issue.

2028
01:45:44,995 --> 01:45:46,975
As Tyler said in Chip County, there's

2029
01:45:47,955 --> 01:45:49,535
the dispatch center on every street corner.

2030
01:45:51,435 --> 01:45:54,535
So we're hopeful that that's gonna go a long way.

2031
01:45:55,265 --> 01:45:56,415
Radio communication.

2032
01:45:57,315 --> 01:45:58,695
In the last six weeks

2033
01:45:59,355 --> 01:46:01,855
we have turned on our simulcast system.

2034
01:46:02,495 --> 01:46:04,695
The town Barry spent around a half a million dollars

2035
01:46:04,765 --> 01:46:05,895
upgrading our towers.

2036
01:46:05,895 --> 01:46:08,975
So now we have two towers in town, the simulcast.

2037
01:46:09,075 --> 01:46:12,895
So William, if you try it, you should be able

2038
01:46:12,895 --> 01:46:16,255
to talk on portable 12 one now then left

2039
01:46:16,665 --> 01:46:19,135
where you probably couldn't three months ago.

2040
01:46:20,285 --> 01:46:23,655
What about fire to ambulance? It should, it should.

2041
01:46:23,995 --> 01:46:25,655
If it goes to the repeater you should be able

2042
01:46:25,715 --> 01:46:27,335
to much clearer.

2043
01:46:27,455 --> 01:46:28,695
'cause it used to be just Tower Road,

2044
01:46:28,715 --> 01:46:30,335
now it's Tower Road and Lin Road.

2045
01:46:31,075 --> 01:46:34,055
But what about your people answering back?

2046
01:46:35,175 --> 01:46:37,455
I mean problem we have borders in the trucks.

2047
01:46:37,455 --> 01:46:39,295
They don't always take 'em out when they're,

2048
01:46:39,295 --> 01:46:40,535
when they're getting out of the truck.

2049
01:46:40,915 --> 01:46:45,095
That's so I can certainly ask them

2050
01:46:45,395 --> 01:46:46,935
to more often, but it's not

2051
01:46:46,935 --> 01:46:48,055
always something that all of 'em do.

2052
01:46:48,055 --> 01:46:51,125
Some of 'em do, some don't. No, it's your, your protocol.

2053
01:46:51,325 --> 01:46:53,205
I just, it is just mind boggling

2054
01:46:53,205 --> 01:46:57,005
that in today's times you go into a people's houses

2055
01:46:57,425 --> 01:47:00,565
and some of the state mine people are in all

2056
01:47:00,565 --> 01:47:03,125
of a sudden held at gunpoint and they have no communication.

2057
01:47:04,005 --> 01:47:05,725
I, I mean I think a lot of it has been

2058
01:47:05,725 --> 01:47:07,285
that the radio tower issues

2059
01:47:07,345 --> 01:47:08,925
and now that we've turned that all on

2060
01:47:09,035 --> 01:47:11,645
because six months ago there were many places

2061
01:47:11,645 --> 01:47:14,485
where you could use portable radio and now we can.

2062
01:47:14,665 --> 01:47:16,445
So it's, it is greatly improved.

2063
01:47:18,155 --> 01:47:20,975
So that's my long winded spiel.

2064
01:47:21,275 --> 01:47:22,415
I'm happy to take any questions

2065
01:47:22,415 --> 01:47:23,655
but it has any specific ones.

2066
01:47:25,675 --> 01:47:28,455
Did you guys move into your new building up in Berlin

2067
01:47:28,675 --> 01:47:29,375
Yet? Soon?

2068
01:47:29,995 --> 01:47:34,415
So any chance taking all your dog lovers

2069
01:47:34,795 --> 01:47:35,815
and moving 'em up there?

2070
01:47:39,295 --> 01:47:42,735
I, there's, there are different stations depending on,

2071
01:47:43,415 --> 01:47:46,335
I move 'em around depending on certifications and whatnot.

2072
01:47:48,965 --> 01:47:51,415
Okay, I have a question.

2073
01:47:51,555 --> 01:47:54,775
So the fast forward's budget right now is $12,000 a

2074
01:47:54,775 --> 01:47:56,095
year total?

2075
01:47:56,845 --> 01:47:58,025
Yes, yes, Yes. Okay.

2076
01:47:58,165 --> 01:48:01,545
So as a resident I don't think that

2077
01:48:01,765 --> 01:48:05,705
that's money deemed would want to not spend just

2078
01:48:05,805 --> 01:48:07,505
to save, it could save one life.

2079
01:48:08,685 --> 01:48:11,425
$12,000 is a drop in the bucket.

2080
01:48:11,965 --> 01:48:13,745
It goes into the general fund.

2081
01:48:13,985 --> 01:48:14,705
Anything that's not used,

2082
01:48:14,965 --> 01:48:16,145
are you saying you want more funding?

2083
01:48:16,445 --> 01:48:19,345
No, I'm saying that we shouldn't not have a fast fund if

2084
01:48:19,495 --> 01:48:21,505
just because of it it's financial.

2085
01:48:22,195 --> 01:48:24,305
Larry was saying did he even leave it?

2086
01:48:24,565 --> 01:48:26,305
No, it's, it's not really a financial thing.

2087
01:48:26,305 --> 01:48:27,345
Again, I can show you the,

2088
01:48:28,505 --> 01:48:31,265
Well I don't, I don't, I'm just saying I think it,

2089
01:48:31,625 --> 01:48:33,705
I think if the fire department's willing to take it on,

2090
01:48:34,895 --> 01:48:36,665
they should absolutely do it. We shouldn't be without,

2091
01:48:36,855 --> 01:48:40,025
Yeah, no and and I think you know

2092
01:48:40,295 --> 01:48:42,505
with within the fire department discussions

2093
01:48:43,365 --> 01:48:44,865
and the reason I'm sitting back here

2094
01:48:44,865 --> 01:48:46,545
and not up the select board, this is the hard thing when

2095
01:48:46,545 --> 01:48:48,585
you're yeah a member of a public agency

2096
01:48:48,585 --> 01:48:50,545
and also a government official,

2097
01:48:51,925 --> 01:48:55,465
but within our meetings too, like

2098
01:48:56,085 --> 01:48:58,865
he was saying a lot of fast squads that they've dealt

2099
01:48:58,865 --> 01:49:01,145
with like Washington, I'm trying to think of others

2100
01:49:01,145 --> 01:49:04,305
that might have 'em, but those fast squads got

2101
01:49:04,305 --> 01:49:05,425
are called for everything.

2102
01:49:06,135 --> 01:49:07,905
What Williamstown's belief is

2103
01:49:08,765 --> 01:49:11,105
and the benefit financial benefit

2104
01:49:11,205 --> 01:49:14,385
but also helping benefit is when the ambulance

2105
01:49:14,385 --> 01:49:16,745
that's at this station is no longer at the station.

2106
01:49:17,175 --> 01:49:19,905
Yeah. That's when the fast squad gets dispatched.

2107
01:49:20,245 --> 01:49:23,025
And it could be someone stubbed their toe, who cares

2108
01:49:23,815 --> 01:49:26,425
Because realistically I've had a lot of experience,

2109
01:49:26,425 --> 01:49:28,145
I've been doing this since I was 16 years old.

2110
01:49:28,865 --> 01:49:29,985
I always love telling this story.

2111
01:49:30,325 --> 01:49:32,625
In my previous career, this is just not a funny one,

2112
01:49:32,885 --> 01:49:35,425
but we got a dispatch for someone that fell off a bench

2113
01:49:36,285 --> 01:49:39,585
and my partner literally jiggled or sorry giggled at me

2114
01:49:39,585 --> 01:49:42,865
and said oh what a bad call he, he did fall off a bench

2115
01:49:43,415 --> 01:49:45,105
down the 75 foot embankment

2116
01:49:45,805 --> 01:49:48,605
but we got the call, the call came is falling off a bench

2117
01:49:48,675 --> 01:49:51,245
that required rope systems and lots of people.

2118
01:49:51,825 --> 01:49:54,165
So that's where nine one also has its little qualms.

2119
01:49:54,865 --> 01:49:56,725
So, but the fire department,

2120
01:49:56,905 --> 01:49:58,445
and William can correct me if I'm wrong,

2121
01:49:59,065 --> 01:50:01,685
but the Fast squad that the fire department wants

2122
01:50:01,685 --> 01:50:04,445
to be moving forward with is when Barry Town

2123
01:50:05,025 --> 01:50:08,365
is not in the station automatic call and

2124
01:50:08,465 --> 01:50:11,455
or when they go like say they have a heavy

2125
01:50:11,455 --> 01:50:12,695
patient, they need a lift assist.

2126
01:50:13,055 --> 01:50:15,455
Absolutely. But if they're here they can do the job.

2127
01:50:15,455 --> 01:50:16,935
There's no reason for the fast squad.

2128
01:50:17,005 --> 01:50:18,655
Yeah, it's those two scenarios

2129
01:50:18,655 --> 01:50:20,455
and I think he's explained in the past,

2130
01:50:20,675 --> 01:50:24,295
you know again if a fast squad gets called to every little

2131
01:50:24,965 --> 01:50:26,615
call they that is gonna wear them down.

2132
01:50:27,635 --> 01:50:29,535
But the fire department's again,

2133
01:50:29,535 --> 01:50:30,655
am I incorrect with that chief?

2134
01:50:31,555 --> 01:50:35,095
So that's the purpose is as soon as that ambulance goes out,

2135
01:50:36,015 --> 01:50:37,895
Memorial knows the ambulance station

2136
01:50:37,895 --> 01:50:38,935
in Williamstown is gone.

2137
01:50:39,315 --> 01:50:40,895
As soon as they get a second medical call

2138
01:50:40,955 --> 01:50:42,695
or whatever it might be, boom

2139
01:50:43,355 --> 01:50:46,215
the fire department fast squad is dispatched and

2140
01:50:46,235 --> 01:50:48,615
or if they need a lift assist

2141
01:50:48,635 --> 01:50:51,175
or they have a CPR call automatic,

2142
01:50:51,985 --> 01:50:54,015
those are, we are here to help you.

2143
01:50:54,475 --> 01:50:57,615
That's the reales thing we can say. Well

2144
01:50:58,955 --> 01:51:02,335
If I may just ask Dave, you know what Tyler just said,

2145
01:51:02,355 --> 01:51:07,015
it is what we talked about being called when

2146
01:51:07,205 --> 01:51:10,295
that ambulance has been station, is that something that

2147
01:51:10,845 --> 01:51:13,695
between you guys and Memorial would be feasible to do?

2148
01:51:14,655 --> 01:51:18,935
I mean, yeah, there's gonna be times when, like right now

2149
01:51:19,155 --> 01:51:21,735
for example during the day we staff five ambulances.

2150
01:51:23,755 --> 01:51:26,935
One of those ambulances is because we're busy

2151
01:51:26,995 --> 01:51:28,735
and that ambulance is a float ambulance.

2152
01:51:28,835 --> 01:51:31,095
So if this crew goes out during the day,

2153
01:51:31,805 --> 01:51:33,935
that crew is gonna be in South Berry and leave

2154
01:51:33,935 --> 01:51:36,295
and head toward here or head towards East Berry Broad.

2155
01:51:36,355 --> 01:51:38,615
Now if there's, if all three stations are out,

2156
01:51:38,685 --> 01:51:39,975
whichever one went out first,

2157
01:51:39,975 --> 01:51:41,255
they're gonna be rolling that way.

2158
01:51:41,835 --> 01:51:43,415
So you know, or they're gonna come back

2159
01:51:43,415 --> 01:51:45,095
and sit in Southbury in the middle of it all.

2160
01:51:46,515 --> 01:51:48,455
So we can certainly look at that.

2161
01:51:48,455 --> 01:51:50,775
But there might be a time when they're rolling down the

2162
01:51:50,775 --> 01:51:53,575
road, you know, they're, they're all

2163
01:51:53,595 --> 01:51:55,055
by the cemetery and the call goes out.

2164
01:51:55,055 --> 01:51:56,535
They're not sitting the station, you probably won't get

2165
01:51:56,695 --> 01:51:58,495
called 'cause dispatch knows that they're here.

2166
01:51:59,115 --> 01:52:00,215
So yeah, we,

2167
01:52:00,215 --> 01:52:02,215
but we can certainly look at that, you know, making sure

2168
01:52:02,215 --> 01:52:04,495
that when they are, when that truck's not on duty

2169
01:52:04,595 --> 01:52:05,815
and this truck goes out, that

2170
01:52:06,045 --> 01:52:07,335
that they're called with you guys.

2171
01:52:07,855 --> 01:52:09,655
I, I mean I can't speak for the driver around

2172
01:52:09,715 --> 01:52:11,415
but I'm assuming if we were to get canceled

2173
01:52:11,415 --> 01:52:14,055
because you get a crew that's close by,

2174
01:52:14,735 --> 01:52:16,695
I don't think people are gonna be upset about that.

2175
01:52:18,215 --> 01:52:20,295
I think it's just more of not getting pulled.

2176
01:52:20,295 --> 01:52:24,495
Like I was in town when that traffic accident happened

2177
01:52:24,635 --> 01:52:26,295
and the didn't get toned

2178
01:52:26,395 --> 01:52:28,815
and the fire got told a couple times that

2179
01:52:28,815 --> 01:52:31,255
by the time the second or the one for the dark

2180
01:52:31,765 --> 01:52:33,935
came out I was like, they more hands

2181
01:52:34,015 --> 01:52:35,375
because the fire department gets

2182
01:52:35,375 --> 01:52:36,575
during the day they less people.

2183
01:52:37,075 --> 01:52:39,535
So I started to head that way and then that got canceled.

2184
01:52:41,115 --> 01:52:44,895
But I just like, I don't know,

2185
01:52:44,935 --> 01:52:47,445
I just feel like we didn't, we're we haven gotten call

2186
01:52:47,465 --> 01:52:49,725
to the capacity that we could have.

2187
01:52:49,785 --> 01:52:52,365
And I get that. I don't have the membership right now.

2188
01:52:52,625 --> 01:52:54,525
We, we started off great, we started off

2189
01:52:54,525 --> 01:52:57,685
with like 40 calls first year full roster.

2190
01:52:58,465 --> 01:53:02,325
It was just dwindled. But I would like to still provide

2191
01:53:02,325 --> 01:53:04,765
that service one way or the other for this community.

2192
01:53:07,155 --> 01:53:09,445
That particular call, there was a truck here

2193
01:53:09,445 --> 01:53:10,725
and two in South Bay.

2194
01:53:10,785 --> 01:53:12,445
So there was three influences there and

2195
01:53:14,465 --> 01:53:15,465
Not all the time.

2196
01:53:15,465 --> 01:53:16,275
Yeah, and

2197
01:53:17,115 --> 01:53:20,005
Well like I said before, you know, for

2198
01:53:20,955 --> 01:53:22,135
not a small small town,

2199
01:53:22,315 --> 01:53:24,655
but we're less than medium sized

2200
01:53:24,655 --> 01:53:26,135
town compared to cities around us.

2201
01:53:27,435 --> 01:53:31,375
We can't be everything for everybody like the cities can do.

2202
01:53:31,665 --> 01:53:33,855
We're not gonna have people there instantly.

2203
01:53:33,965 --> 01:53:35,055
Like the cities can do.

2204
01:53:35,115 --> 01:53:36,815
We don't have a full-time fire department

2205
01:53:36,875 --> 01:53:41,455
and we do have an in-house able service under contract.

2206
01:53:44,125 --> 01:53:48,025
The thing that worries me is this fast guard thing

2207
01:53:49,065 --> 01:53:53,125
starts snowballing into something that's not intended to be,

2208
01:53:53,155 --> 01:53:55,245
it's intended to be a backup.

2209
01:53:55,685 --> 01:53:57,165
A case of us needs help

2210
01:53:57,665 --> 01:53:59,645
or needs can't get here

2211
01:53:59,705 --> 01:54:01,485
for some particular reason quick enough.

2212
01:54:01,545 --> 01:54:04,685
And your guys are, people are available if we,

2213
01:54:04,745 --> 01:54:07,125
if it starts getting beyond that, you know,

2214
01:54:07,285 --> 01:54:10,365
I think we're talking 20 to 25 calls a year when we first

2215
01:54:10,905 --> 01:54:14,005
talked about this way back start gets beyond that,

2216
01:54:14,005 --> 01:54:16,605
then it starts getting more expense to the taxpayers.

2217
01:54:18,835 --> 01:54:20,975
And many times it may not be needed.

2218
01:54:21,495 --> 01:54:23,095
I mean if it's needed it's good,

2219
01:54:23,155 --> 01:54:26,455
but if it, every time you know, the toner goes off,

2220
01:54:26,475 --> 01:54:28,495
you get three, four firefighters show up,

2221
01:54:28,495 --> 01:54:29,535
they get the ambulance show up

2222
01:54:29,535 --> 01:54:31,415
and they might not need more than two people there.

2223
01:54:31,875 --> 01:54:33,855
So that's, that's what bothers me about the thing,

2224
01:54:33,855 --> 01:54:36,775
if it's really needed or not.

2225
01:54:37,035 --> 01:54:39,095
And I think like looking at some of that,

2226
01:54:39,335 --> 01:54:41,095
although some of those numbers of that call list

2227
01:54:41,095 --> 01:54:43,615
for this year, I just looked it is not completely accurate.

2228
01:54:43,675 --> 01:54:46,215
But so a lot of them being motor vehicle accidents,

2229
01:54:46,215 --> 01:54:47,335
the fire departments aren't gonna go.

2230
01:54:47,355 --> 01:54:49,495
So they have that extra medical training and they get there

2231
01:54:49,495 --> 01:54:50,655
before the ambulance gets there.

2232
01:54:50,655 --> 01:54:51,735
That just helps that patient.

2233
01:54:53,035 --> 01:54:56,735
So I mean I feel like, you know, them having extra training,

2234
01:54:57,325 --> 01:55:01,535
even buyers and bcs would be great.

2235
01:55:01,755 --> 01:55:05,535
And then I, the occasional medical call, again,

2236
01:55:05,535 --> 01:55:08,095
it's probably gonna be that cardiac arrest

2237
01:55:08,195 --> 01:55:11,325
or a a massive, you know, mi

2238
01:55:11,345 --> 01:55:13,445
but we, for the most part,

2239
01:55:13,565 --> 01:55:15,885
I feel like the calls are the motor vehicle accidents,

2240
01:55:15,885 --> 01:55:19,365
the fire, the assist and the cardiac arrest.

2241
01:55:19,905 --> 01:55:21,005
Hey Dave. Yeah.

2242
01:55:21,005 --> 01:55:23,245
And to Marie's point, the town's gonna see no additional

2243
01:55:23,245 --> 01:55:25,685
expense on any of the motor vehicle crashes or fires

2244
01:55:25,845 --> 01:55:26,965
'cause the fire farms aren't going anywhere.

2245
01:55:27,385 --> 01:55:30,565
So that's gonna be a wash as far as the labor goes

2246
01:55:30,565 --> 01:55:33,805
because they're, they're already going on the call

2247
01:55:34,505 --> 01:55:38,005
And we just just like get rid of the pass bottle together.

2248
01:55:38,035 --> 01:55:41,005
They're still gonna be asked to go. It's really not.

2249
01:55:43,255 --> 01:55:44,705
It's gonna probably be the same.

2250
01:55:45,925 --> 01:55:48,025
So when it relates to the medical situation,

2251
01:55:49,405 --> 01:55:51,185
the fire department is very aware that

2252
01:55:52,375 --> 01:55:55,545
Mary town is in charge of that situation.

2253
01:55:55,605 --> 01:55:58,465
And if it's fire situation significant, you know,

2254
01:55:58,465 --> 01:56:01,585
the fire department, the guys work together on it work,

2255
01:56:01,585 --> 01:56:04,185
but just not try to,

2256
01:56:04,295 --> 01:56:06,785
sometimes you get too many cooks in the kitchen

2257
01:56:06,925 --> 01:56:08,425
and things. Something

2258
01:56:08,765 --> 01:56:09,765
I'm not aware about that one.

2259
01:56:09,765 --> 01:56:10,785
And I work pretty well together

2260
01:56:12,285 --> 01:56:15,825
and we, so I'm not, you guys will make your decisions.

2261
01:56:16,455 --> 01:56:17,785
Just two quick things to say.

2262
01:56:20,475 --> 01:56:23,015
If your decision is to put the passcode under the fire

2263
01:56:23,015 --> 01:56:24,495
department, William, you and I can sit down

2264
01:56:24,515 --> 01:56:26,575
and come up with, you know, what

2265
01:56:26,575 --> 01:56:29,335
that response looks like if the board wants to see it.

2266
01:56:31,135 --> 01:56:33,855
I am hopeful that you're making a decision tonight

2267
01:56:33,855 --> 01:56:37,895
because, so I'm, yes, I'm the, the director of very tiny US

2268
01:56:37,895 --> 01:56:39,375
but I'm also the district six chair

2269
01:56:40,155 --> 01:56:42,175
and we've got 16 days

2270
01:56:43,155 --> 01:56:45,295
to get the relicense application in.

2271
01:56:45,875 --> 01:56:47,975
So it's not something that can wait until October.

2272
01:56:49,275 --> 01:56:52,215
And if it's gonna continue, we, you guys are gonna have

2273
01:56:52,215 --> 01:56:57,135
to do, I would suggest you do a,

2274
01:56:57,495 --> 01:57:00,415
a town ended department merger

2275
01:57:00,845 --> 01:57:02,295
because a new license

2276
01:57:02,435 --> 01:57:05,495
for the fire fire department is going back through all the

2277
01:57:07,915 --> 01:57:09,415
notice and all that stuff

2278
01:57:09,445 --> 01:57:11,375
that I really don't think is necessary.

2279
01:57:11,495 --> 01:57:13,735
I think if you merge the departments on the town end,

2280
01:57:14,275 --> 01:57:16,775
add fire to the license that goes to the state,

2281
01:57:16,895 --> 01:57:19,635
I think we'll be okay if you choose go,

2282
01:57:20,275 --> 01:57:21,275
I think it'd be a great thing

2283
01:57:21,275 --> 01:57:23,715
to combine yourself as a taxpayer.

2284
01:57:30,025 --> 01:57:32,595
That easy. I can all,

2285
01:57:33,655 --> 01:57:38,435
So just taking this all in, I'm seeing kind of

2286
01:57:39,475 --> 01:57:42,075
separate issues within the one issue, you know,

2287
01:57:42,075 --> 01:57:43,555
the other communication piece

2288
01:57:43,655 --> 01:57:46,075
and you guys figuring out when, you know,

2289
01:57:46,095 --> 01:57:47,715
you would call the fast quo stuff,

2290
01:57:47,715 --> 01:57:51,115
but as, as far as this in general goes budget wise, right?

2291
01:57:51,115 --> 01:57:53,955
12,000, they've never even used, they used about

2292
01:57:54,605 --> 01:57:56,675
maybe 30% of their budget each year.

2293
01:57:56,695 --> 01:58:01,475
So it's not much as somebody who deals

2294
01:58:01,475 --> 01:58:06,405
with volunteers quite a bit with youth sports, I,

2295
01:58:06,645 --> 01:58:09,565
I don't see, and I understand everybody else's view as far

2296
01:58:09,565 --> 01:58:12,005
as right, you get people that wanna gung-ho let's go

2297
01:58:12,065 --> 01:58:14,045
and then six months down the road it fizzles out.

2298
01:58:15,305 --> 01:58:18,485
But I don't see the, the harm in, if we have

2299
01:58:18,485 --> 01:58:20,685
to meet back here in a year and it fizzles out

2300
01:58:20,685 --> 01:58:22,445
and we say, okay, well now we gotta shut it down.

2301
01:58:22,995 --> 01:58:25,205
Well we had another year of some extra help

2302
01:58:25,865 --> 01:58:29,445
and maybe some lives saved for really no additional cost.

2303
01:58:32,365 --> 01:58:33,765
I, I don't see any harm.

2304
01:58:34,145 --> 01:58:36,845
And especially if you have 14 people that say, Hey I want

2305
01:58:36,845 --> 01:58:39,285
to do this, why would we say, well no,

2306
01:58:39,345 --> 01:58:40,525
we don't want you to do that.

2307
01:58:42,705 --> 01:58:45,525
So I, I'm all for giving this opportunity

2308
01:58:45,545 --> 01:58:48,645
to the fire department of being able to give this a try.

2309
01:58:48,645 --> 01:58:51,445
And again, if we give them a year and we come back

2310
01:58:51,465 --> 01:58:55,725
and we get the yep, hey look you're only responding

2311
01:58:55,725 --> 01:58:59,765
to 15% of the calls, you know what's going on?

2312
01:59:00,515 --> 01:59:02,525
Then we just take it from there

2313
01:59:02,585 --> 01:59:04,445
and we say, well we're gonna shut it down now,

2314
01:59:04,505 --> 01:59:07,405
but you know, if for the next six months it works great

2315
01:59:07,405 --> 01:59:09,245
and they respond to a hundred percent of the calls

2316
01:59:09,505 --> 01:59:11,365
and there is that one CPR person

2317
01:59:11,365 --> 01:59:12,565
they get to and they save their life.

2318
01:59:12,565 --> 01:59:14,205
That's worth it in my opinion.

2319
01:59:16,225 --> 01:59:17,565
So I mean the other stuff,

2320
01:59:17,635 --> 01:59:19,725
hopefully you guys can figure that stuff out.

2321
01:59:21,125 --> 01:59:24,685
I think me personally, once you guys do figure out yes when

2322
01:59:24,685 --> 01:59:26,725
the ambulances are here, once you get that agreement,

2323
01:59:27,805 --> 01:59:29,125
I would be interested to see it.

2324
01:59:30,605 --> 01:59:32,405
I don't know if the rest of the board would like to see it

2325
01:59:32,405 --> 01:59:35,125
as well, but I'd like at least just to look at it so we kind

2326
01:59:35,125 --> 01:59:36,605
of all are on the same page

2327
01:59:37,545 --> 01:59:39,525
and I would like to thank you guys

2328
01:59:39,805 --> 01:59:41,965
'cause I've had calls to my house for the ambulance

2329
01:59:42,105 --> 01:59:44,045
and they've been there on time.

2330
01:59:44,045 --> 01:59:47,125
They've been just fantastic.

2331
01:59:48,145 --> 01:59:50,525
So I appreciate the work of, of all the,

2332
01:59:51,905 --> 01:59:54,565
the service members, fire department, everybody,

2333
01:59:54,915 --> 01:59:56,245
everybody that does that stuff.

2334
01:59:56,305 --> 01:59:58,725
So thank you for what you guys do. I appreciate it a lot.

2335
01:59:59,935 --> 02:00:04,085
Tyler. Again, I'm gonna stay out

2336
02:00:04,085 --> 02:00:05,365
of the agreement portion, but

2337
02:00:05,585 --> 02:00:08,485
as a selectman I think it would be the best

2338
02:00:08,985 --> 02:00:11,365
to have the select board agree upon the agreement

2339
02:00:11,505 --> 02:00:15,485
and actually make it like a standard operating guideline

2340
02:00:15,625 --> 02:00:20,205
or a, you know, you know what EMTs have to follow

2341
02:00:20,385 --> 02:00:24,765
for protocols just so it's not an, you know,

2342
02:00:24,765 --> 02:00:26,205
under table written agreement.

2343
02:00:26,525 --> 02:00:28,845
I think it needs to be shown that the slick court says yes

2344
02:00:29,785 --> 02:00:32,665
if there's a call that Barry Town is not in this town,

2345
02:00:32,925 --> 02:00:34,465
the Fast squad needs to be dispatched

2346
02:00:34,465 --> 02:00:37,705
because I, what has happened, I do believe in the past,

2347
02:00:37,705 --> 02:00:40,905
and I could be incorrect, you can say your name to this.

2348
02:00:41,215 --> 02:00:43,665
Like again, she brought the example, I was not at

2349
02:00:43,665 --> 02:00:46,265
that motorcycle accident myself, but we have a fast squad.

2350
02:00:46,925 --> 02:00:50,265
It was in the middle of town, not even dispatched again.

2351
02:00:50,685 --> 02:00:53,105
He said there's two cardiac arrests in Williamstown

2352
02:00:53,735 --> 02:00:56,105
that were life saves, which is amazing,

2353
02:00:56,765 --> 02:00:58,745
but the Fast squad should have still been called for that.

2354
02:00:59,165 --> 02:01:00,945
And I, I explained this

2355
02:01:00,945 --> 02:01:02,665
to the fire department when we were discussing this,

2356
02:01:02,665 --> 02:01:06,145
right when I started in, in,

2357
02:01:06,165 --> 02:01:08,745
in my previous city when we had a cardiac arrest,

2358
02:01:09,445 --> 02:01:11,185
the old school method was an ambulance

2359
02:01:11,185 --> 02:01:14,345
and an engine, which could be four to five people.

2360
02:01:15,175 --> 02:01:17,585
When the new protocols came out a few years ago,

2361
02:01:17,975 --> 02:01:20,785
it's now two engines or three engines and two people.

2362
02:01:21,085 --> 02:01:23,665
Now I don't know if my previous employer has the new modern

2363
02:01:23,665 --> 02:01:27,145
technology, but if that battery dies backup.

2364
02:01:27,375 --> 02:01:29,865
Well, I'm just saying though, to, and,

2365
02:01:29,885 --> 02:01:31,465
and to bring in the DART perspective,

2366
02:01:33,045 --> 02:01:35,305
we just had dart train here, what, two,

2367
02:01:35,435 --> 02:01:37,385
three months ago, somewhere around there.

2368
02:01:37,385 --> 02:01:38,945
They unfortunately it rained every day.

2369
02:01:39,005 --> 02:01:40,565
So the helicopter didn't land,

2370
02:01:41,145 --> 02:01:45,725
but one of dart's something that that organization says,

2371
02:01:46,035 --> 02:01:49,485
call us if we turn around because you don't need us.

2372
02:01:49,695 --> 02:01:50,925
We're absolutely fine with that.

2373
02:01:51,385 --> 02:01:52,845
But especially with the helicopter,

2374
02:01:54,145 --> 02:01:57,365
if we call 20 minutes past when we thought we needed them,

2375
02:01:57,715 --> 02:01:58,925
they have to check the helicopter.

2376
02:01:58,925 --> 02:02:01,885
They have, they going, same with calling a fast squad,

2377
02:02:01,885 --> 02:02:03,845
it's better to have someone get dispatched

2378
02:02:04,305 --> 02:02:07,605
and then say, oh we're good and then it's safer.

2379
02:02:08,625 --> 02:02:11,045
But the FAS squad's not gonna get called out

2380
02:02:11,265 --> 02:02:12,405
if they're Correct.

2381
02:02:12,405 --> 02:02:14,805
Correct. No, what I'm saying is that's what you just said.

2382
02:02:14,985 --> 02:02:16,965
No, I'm saying if they are not in town,

2383
02:02:17,625 --> 02:02:19,845
the Fast Squad needs to be called. Right.

2384
02:02:20,235 --> 02:02:22,325
Well that's where we talk. What I'm, that needs

2385
02:02:22,325 --> 02:02:24,085
to be written on paper because I think

2386
02:02:24,085 --> 02:02:25,685
that was supposedly the idea

2387
02:02:25,685 --> 02:02:27,125
originally and it has not happened.

2388
02:02:27,125 --> 02:02:29,605
Right. And I know that this one recently they were in town

2389
02:02:29,605 --> 02:02:32,485
and that and but it, the way it came across

2390
02:02:32,485 --> 02:02:33,925
that there was multiple people

2391
02:02:34,305 --> 02:02:37,605
and so we originally talked a couple years ago about like if

2392
02:02:37,605 --> 02:02:39,005
they know it's gonna be multiple,

2393
02:02:39,475 --> 02:02:42,045
potentially multiple people calling the just, you know,

2394
02:02:42,045 --> 02:02:44,485
it said hand while they waited for their other to come in.

2395
02:02:44,745 --> 02:02:46,605
You know, it's the middle of the day during weekdays

2396
02:02:46,605 --> 02:02:47,765
and they have extra ambulances.

2397
02:02:48,115 --> 02:02:49,925
Okay. They, but it could have just been another

2398
02:02:50,475 --> 02:02:51,605
body to help they,

2399
02:02:51,605 --> 02:02:52,605
Yeah.

2400
02:02:52,605 --> 02:02:54,325
So the the document we're talking about is an operational

2401
02:02:54,325 --> 02:02:57,005
letter of agreement that it has to be written between the,

2402
02:02:57,105 --> 02:02:58,485
the transporting entity and first one

2403
02:02:58,675 --> 02:02:59,805
that goes with a license.

2404
02:03:00,225 --> 02:03:02,245
So we can write that out.

2405
02:03:02,245 --> 02:03:04,365
It goes to the state and then you guys come out the court

2406
02:03:07,315 --> 02:03:08,315
Clayton.

2407
02:03:08,625 --> 02:03:12,165
Yes, yes. Thank you for that clarification.

2408
02:03:12,235 --> 02:03:13,605
That takes care of one part of it

2409
02:03:16,585 --> 02:03:20,735
personally and as a i for the town people, any better,

2410
02:03:20,955 --> 02:03:23,535
any person that can be saved with, with,

2411
02:03:23,615 --> 02:03:26,615
I don't care if it's Marie or David's crew or whoever

2412
02:03:26,635 --> 02:03:28,895
or the volunteers on the fire department.

2413
02:03:28,925 --> 02:03:32,335
Fantastic. If you're willing to take it over, which you are

2414
02:03:32,475 --> 02:03:36,935
and, and your members are perfect, I my suggestion

2415
02:03:37,955 --> 02:03:41,855
and give it a year, jump on board,

2416
02:03:41,915 --> 02:03:43,415
get this thing done quarterly.

2417
02:03:43,935 --> 02:03:48,415
I like this. Thank you. Bring that up question.

2418
02:03:48,545 --> 02:03:51,255
Bring it to us quarterly so we can see what,

2419
02:03:51,255 --> 02:03:53,015
what's being done, who's responding.

2420
02:03:53,555 --> 02:03:55,655
And, and in a year we can come back, say, hey, it,

2421
02:03:55,675 --> 02:03:58,215
it is working or it's not, it's either gonna work or,

2422
02:03:58,275 --> 02:03:59,535
or it's not plain and simple,

2423
02:03:59,955 --> 02:04:03,215
but it's worth it to me to give it this one year try.

2424
02:04:04,045 --> 02:04:07,505
And if it doesn't squash it, then, then it's all up today

2425
02:04:08,005 --> 02:04:09,425
and that you ain't gonna be here.

2426
02:04:10,245 --> 02:04:12,545
Hey, I'm still, I'm still, I'm still here today.

2427
02:04:12,545 --> 02:04:16,185
Neither I can I add to that but that's, that's coming out.

2428
02:04:16,345 --> 02:04:19,625
I mean it's, I'm not gonna throw it to the wind.

2429
02:04:19,725 --> 02:04:20,865
You know what, it's worth it.

2430
02:04:21,485 --> 02:04:22,545
I'd just like to add to that.

2431
02:04:23,025 --> 02:04:26,145
I, I would like to see the Fast Squad keep

2432
02:04:26,145 --> 02:04:27,265
their own record as well.

2433
02:04:27,625 --> 02:04:29,385
'cause I'm hearing that this isn't

2434
02:04:29,385 --> 02:04:30,705
exactly what you remember.

2435
02:04:31,505 --> 02:04:33,785
February marked dates in my record

2436
02:04:34,125 --> 02:04:37,285
and looking back at some of the recent ones

2437
02:04:37,285 --> 02:04:39,605
that aren't in my spreadsheet, I do know two

2438
02:04:39,605 --> 02:04:41,525
of those NBCs work to the interstate.

2439
02:04:41,705 --> 02:04:43,405
So our, we've asked our membership not

2440
02:04:43,405 --> 02:04:44,485
to drive their person availables

2441
02:04:44,485 --> 02:04:46,405
to the interstate, so that makes sense.

2442
02:04:46,405 --> 02:04:47,765
We we wouldn't go to those. Yep.

2443
02:04:47,945 --> 02:04:50,365
Two of those that say nobody's responded, I actually went.

2444
02:04:51,185 --> 02:04:53,925
So, so I just think that, I don't know. Yeah.

2445
02:04:54,225 --> 02:04:56,285
So, so that's why I'm saying it'd be nice to have,

2446
02:04:56,595 --> 02:04:58,045
they keep the records, right?

2447
02:04:58,265 --> 02:05:00,605
You, you're Fast Squad, you've done the call,

2448
02:05:00,825 --> 02:05:03,245
you fill out the, you whatever, you have a template,

2449
02:05:03,265 --> 02:05:04,285
you both fill it out

2450
02:05:04,425 --> 02:05:06,445
and then you can, when we get our,

2451
02:05:07,325 --> 02:05:09,445
whatever we decide if we do this quarterly, annually,

2452
02:05:09,565 --> 02:05:12,125
whatever it is, we can look at it both and say, hey, what's

2453
02:05:13,165 --> 02:05:15,205
I think that's from dispatch not, yeah.

2454
02:05:15,225 --> 02:05:16,645
Oh, okay. No, that's from dispatch.

2455
02:05:17,265 --> 02:05:19,445
And to answer your question, Cody, every,

2456
02:05:19,705 --> 02:05:20,925
the fire department uses,

2457
02:05:21,025 --> 02:05:23,445
the reason I'm looking at my phone is I have multiple phone

2458
02:05:23,475 --> 02:05:25,605
apps that involve the fire department,

2459
02:05:26,185 --> 02:05:29,005
but we use a new program called First Do So any

2460
02:05:29,005 --> 02:05:30,165
call the fire department does.

2461
02:05:31,905 --> 02:05:33,485
So these would be the same with the Fast Box,

2462
02:05:33,485 --> 02:05:34,685
it's gonna be part of the fire department.

2463
02:05:34,935 --> 02:05:38,165
Those would be part of first due also Siren is

2464
02:05:38,165 --> 02:05:40,325
where the medical reports are done. So you would have two

2465
02:05:40,325 --> 02:05:41,325
Shouldn't be doing that.

2466
02:05:41,435 --> 02:05:43,565
This is me calling Berry City dispatch. Okay.

2467
02:05:43,565 --> 02:05:45,085
Because they were the ones dispatching, again,

2468
02:05:45,085 --> 02:05:47,805
if you see on the sheet, there was at least three calls

2469
02:05:47,805 --> 02:05:49,365
that were accidental dispatches.

2470
02:05:49,725 --> 02:05:51,685
So someone at Berry City accidentally hit the button

2471
02:05:52,385 --> 02:05:56,695
and put the time in and time out and they were aware

2472
02:05:56,695 --> 02:05:57,695
Of that.

2473
02:05:57,695 --> 02:05:58,615
Well that, that's all, that's all fine.

2474
02:05:58,675 --> 02:06:01,135
But it, it, it gives clarification for

2475
02:06:01,275 --> 02:06:03,495
who actually been toned out just

2476
02:06:03,495 --> 02:06:05,735
to help William on his, on his people.

2477
02:06:05,855 --> 02:06:07,095
I won't say guys or girls

2478
02:06:07,095 --> 02:06:11,215
because there's both on the fire department going

2479
02:06:11,395 --> 02:06:14,255
and as a Fast Squad member, you know,

2480
02:06:14,275 --> 02:06:15,935
you know who's showing up and who's not.

2481
02:06:16,195 --> 02:06:18,175
And you know what, whether they get turned back

2482
02:06:18,175 --> 02:06:19,375
or not, it's still a go.

2483
02:06:19,885 --> 02:06:22,215
They, they're and, and, you know, going for it.

2484
02:06:22,315 --> 02:06:23,695
So that's, that's my thought.

2485
02:06:24,595 --> 02:06:25,595
Oh yeah. Still

2486
02:06:27,315 --> 02:06:30,055
Before you guys then I'll, I'll shut up after this, but

2487
02:06:30,055 --> 02:06:33,295
before you guys make your your decision, I'm,

2488
02:06:33,395 --> 02:06:34,815
I'm gonna be upfront and honest

2489
02:06:34,915 --> 02:06:39,855
and open with you all that I have full intentions of,

2490
02:06:40,115 --> 02:06:42,335
you know, if it goes through to join

2491
02:06:42,555 --> 02:06:45,455
and I know we could all go back and,

2492
02:06:45,635 --> 02:06:49,415
and look at the start of this and you know,

2493
02:06:49,415 --> 02:06:51,775
and I've argued that fire department shouldn't go

2494
02:06:52,395 --> 02:06:54,335
to lift assist the whole nine yards.

2495
02:06:54,485 --> 02:06:55,735
I've argued against it,

2496
02:06:58,305 --> 02:07:02,645
but when somebody you know, is waiting for an ambulance

2497
02:07:02,705 --> 02:07:05,005
or you're watching a 90-year-old couple

2498
02:07:05,585 --> 02:07:08,525
sit down on the porch for 17 minutes waiting for

2499
02:07:09,225 --> 02:07:13,985
an ambulance and the cold weather, it, it that, that's

2500
02:07:13,985 --> 02:07:15,225
where it started to bothering me

2501
02:07:15,845 --> 02:07:17,865
to turn my support the other way.

2502
02:07:18,045 --> 02:07:20,345
So I mean we, we can, we can all sit there

2503
02:07:20,345 --> 02:07:21,785
and say that, you know,

2504
02:07:22,545 --> 02:07:25,725
at one point I was against the fire department doing this,

2505
02:07:27,665 --> 02:07:30,725
but with that said, I, you know, if it comes

2506
02:07:30,725 --> 02:07:33,365
to the fire department, I have full intentions of,

2507
02:07:33,425 --> 02:07:37,085
of joining, overseeing it administratively,

2508
02:07:37,085 --> 02:07:40,765
making sure people are holding up their end of it going,

2509
02:07:41,105 --> 02:07:42,605
you know, saying they're doing

2510
02:07:42,605 --> 02:07:44,365
what they're saying going to the training.

2511
02:07:45,945 --> 02:07:48,285
But I would put somebody else in charge

2512
02:07:48,385 --> 02:07:50,685
of overseeing the operations.

2513
02:07:50,825 --> 02:07:54,365
So the fast log working with David and,

2514
02:07:54,585 --> 02:07:59,135
and doing that, I have, I do, I do gotta get to a point

2515
02:07:59,135 --> 02:08:03,215
where I say I take it on enough and personally

2516
02:08:03,355 --> 02:08:05,415
and professionally.

2517
02:08:05,635 --> 02:08:07,945
So I sit here

2518
02:08:07,945 --> 02:08:10,025
and give you my word that I would do everything I can

2519
02:08:10,565 --> 02:08:11,585
to see it through

2520
02:08:11,965 --> 02:08:16,865
and make sure it's held to, to the expectations

2521
02:08:16,935 --> 02:08:19,225
that I'm telling you all tonight.

2522
02:08:19,925 --> 02:08:24,545
But somebody else operations would be making sure that,

2523
02:08:24,685 --> 02:08:28,145
making sure a good training is put on making sure it's set

2524
02:08:28,145 --> 02:08:32,865
to go, making sure stuff is stocked up and plain

2525
02:08:32,865 --> 02:08:36,825
and simple that we are doing everything we can

2526
02:08:37,405 --> 02:08:39,585
to be on the same track with them.

2527
02:08:40,285 --> 02:08:43,295
Not looking to overstep Berry town

2528
02:08:43,295 --> 02:08:47,375
that I fully agree they are the medical professionals,

2529
02:08:48,045 --> 02:08:49,175
it's their job.

2530
02:08:49,385 --> 02:08:52,695
We're just there to help until they get there.

2531
02:08:54,915 --> 02:08:56,495
You know, I'm not, I'm not looking

2532
02:08:56,495 --> 02:09:00,575
to start an ambulance service, so I just, just

2533
02:09:01,105 --> 02:09:02,415
doing what I can to help.

2534
02:09:03,395 --> 02:09:06,895
But I wanted to be honest that I'm not, I'm not gonna be,

2535
02:09:08,345 --> 02:09:13,245
you know, as high up involved as I am like

2536
02:09:13,245 --> 02:09:14,285
with the fire department.

2537
02:09:17,035 --> 02:09:21,325
Well I wanna be honest with you as well, I mean,

2538
02:09:21,485 --> 02:09:23,445
I started on a slug board back in 2008.

2539
02:09:23,625 --> 02:09:27,845
The Eble was an issue back then as never changed.

2540
02:09:27,905 --> 02:09:29,325
And I got off it for a few years.

2541
02:09:29,445 --> 02:09:31,045
I got back on, the first thing we were hit

2542
02:09:31,045 --> 02:09:32,365
with is the ambulance thing again.

2543
02:09:33,105 --> 02:09:35,445
And then we did this fast, hard thing.

2544
02:09:35,465 --> 02:09:38,125
And the track record, to be honest with you,

2545
02:09:38,125 --> 02:09:39,445
with the ambulance is not good.

2546
02:09:40,165 --> 02:09:43,645
I mean, I mean, bar down was responded to over 30%

2547
02:09:43,645 --> 02:09:46,645
of the calls when we finally had enough

2548
02:09:46,645 --> 02:09:47,685
and we did what we did

2549
02:09:48,385 --> 02:09:49,565
and many people didn't think

2550
02:09:49,565 --> 02:09:50,725
we did the right thing at the time.

2551
02:09:50,825 --> 02:09:53,085
But is, I've seen nothing yet that,

2552
02:09:53,155 --> 02:09:55,605
that I would've would change my mind from the decision

2553
02:09:55,665 --> 02:09:56,805
we made at that time.

2554
02:09:58,165 --> 02:10:00,285
I know Cody's knew what this, he wasn't around at that time

2555
02:10:01,305 --> 02:10:05,085
and, but I do think it's worth a shot

2556
02:10:06,115 --> 02:10:09,335
and as long as you guys work together on it, I did like

2557
02:10:10,085 --> 02:10:12,975
Tyler's idea about gonna establish some kind of protocol.

2558
02:10:13,115 --> 02:10:17,295
So I just, I just, I just can't say this enough.

2559
02:10:18,765 --> 02:10:20,665
We, we need to keep this under control.

2560
02:10:20,665 --> 02:10:23,145
We don't need to be growing into competition between

2561
02:10:23,695 --> 02:10:25,345
Fast Squad and Barry Town

2562
02:10:25,345 --> 02:10:27,345
because we get a good thing going with Barry Town.

2563
02:10:27,845 --> 02:10:30,465
We cannot have our own service,

2564
02:10:31,335 --> 02:10:34,165
cost us like a million dollars to do what we got with them

2565
02:10:34,345 --> 02:10:38,605
for like 240 or 50, somewhere that range.

2566
02:10:39,445 --> 02:10:41,725
I mean it's just, that's the facts.

2567
02:10:41,985 --> 02:10:43,005
We went through all the numbers

2568
02:10:43,065 --> 02:10:44,405
and William and I talked about it.

2569
02:10:44,405 --> 02:10:46,525
You talked to somebody in Woodstock or something

2570
02:10:46,545 --> 02:10:48,845
and recently gone through it and Yeah.

2571
02:10:49,025 --> 02:10:52,085
You know what the numbers are. I'm not, I'm, I'm on.

2572
02:10:52,865 --> 02:10:55,765
We, we, we can't, we don't cost town a million dollars more

2573
02:10:55,765 --> 02:10:56,845
than we're spending right now

2574
02:10:56,865 --> 02:10:59,165
and it probably wouldn't be any different service

2575
02:10:59,195 --> 02:11:00,325
than what we've got right now.

2576
02:11:00,465 --> 02:11:02,605
So, but we don't wanna go down that road.

2577
02:11:03,605 --> 02:11:04,925
I mean, I'm, I'm not against it.

2578
02:11:05,045 --> 02:11:09,085
I just, I just don't wanna see the thing get outta control

2579
02:11:09,085 --> 02:11:11,485
and I wanna make sure it all works smooth between you guys.

2580
02:11:11,595 --> 02:11:12,595
Yeah.

2581
02:11:13,935 --> 02:11:18,205
Paper Chuck, myself, just commenting off of what,

2582
02:11:18,345 --> 02:11:20,725
you know, all the problems we've had with the ambulance

2583
02:11:21,435 --> 02:11:25,285
over the years, but think of where the fire department was.

2584
02:11:25,865 --> 02:11:27,245
2000 court scene.

2585
02:11:28,195 --> 02:11:31,685
Only three members that were willing to come.

2586
02:11:32,105 --> 02:11:36,125
Now I got it up to, to almost 20 now,

2587
02:11:37,105 --> 02:11:41,245
so I guess I just asked, give a, gimme a chance to take my,

2588
02:11:41,395 --> 02:11:42,405
take my turn with it

2589
02:11:42,465 --> 02:11:46,925
and I guess you said a year, September 15, 27th.

2590
02:11:47,265 --> 02:11:51,405
If I let the pound down, I'll do the first one to admit

2591
02:11:54,515 --> 02:11:56,605
This deal waves in my mind a whole lot less than

2592
02:11:56,605 --> 02:11:59,805
that did when it, I, I,

2593
02:12:00,325 --> 02:12:02,965
I do, I do agree with Dave that it should be part

2594
02:12:02,965 --> 02:12:04,405
of the PMS.

2595
02:12:04,425 --> 02:12:06,405
The password should become under the

2596
02:12:06,675 --> 02:12:07,845
fire department umbrella.

2597
02:12:08,265 --> 02:12:09,565
The licensing and everything.

2598
02:12:10,515 --> 02:12:12,765
That was your assist. You mention the licenses

2599
02:12:13,345 --> 02:12:15,005
and it should be all part of it.

2600
02:12:16,475 --> 02:12:18,245
They're Gonna, it don't work. It don't work.

2601
02:12:18,625 --> 02:12:20,765
If we go forward with this thing, they're gonna have

2602
02:12:20,765 --> 02:12:22,845
to figure it out but make it work between themselves.

2603
02:12:23,385 --> 02:12:26,285
Oh yeah. Without that legal, they're not gonna, so he knows

2604
02:12:27,305 --> 02:12:28,605
The state's aware that we,

2605
02:12:28,755 --> 02:12:30,445
there's a meeting today and told

2606
02:12:31,985 --> 02:12:32,985
Off.

2607
02:12:32,985 --> 02:12:34,885
You'll just have to, I can work with Ryan

2608
02:12:34,975 --> 02:12:38,165
where the town will just have to merge whatever the

2609
02:12:38,675 --> 02:12:41,005
municipal excuse operation is

2610
02:12:41,005 --> 02:12:44,285
to merge the two departments together will be easier

2611
02:12:45,545 --> 02:12:48,965
if you say it is now the town of Williamstown

2612
02:12:49,595 --> 02:12:51,445
Fire Department and Squa

2613
02:12:51,445 --> 02:12:53,285
or something like that to make it one department

2614
02:12:53,285 --> 02:12:54,605
easier on the licensing end.

2615
02:12:57,625 --> 02:12:58,925
We can work with 'em figure. Ellen,

2616
02:12:58,945 --> 02:13:00,725
do you need any assistance walking out?

2617
02:13:02,415 --> 02:13:04,685
Scott, you have nothing? Nope.

2618
02:13:06,265 --> 02:13:09,485
So I guess we would have to have a motion that we

2619
02:13:11,675 --> 02:13:16,405
make motion in favor of moving the fast squad coopered in

2620
02:13:16,405 --> 02:13:19,405
with the fire department under the skylight,

2621
02:13:19,575 --> 02:13:21,485
under the management of the fire chief.

2622
02:13:21,935 --> 02:13:23,285
Right? Is that right William?

2623
02:13:24,265 --> 02:13:25,285
I'm sorry. There was

2624
02:13:25,585 --> 02:13:26,585
The motion.

2625
02:13:26,585 --> 02:13:27,485
We're trying to come up with a motion

2626
02:13:27,555 --> 02:13:29,725
that we would make a motion to move

2627
02:13:30,785 --> 02:13:34,245
to move the current fast squad under the authorization

2628
02:13:34,265 --> 02:13:38,485
of the fire department under your, you be the head

2629
02:13:38,485 --> 02:13:39,485
of it at this point.

2630
02:13:40,955 --> 02:13:45,165
That sound reasonable? Yep. Yes. I'll make that motion.

2631
02:13:45,815 --> 02:13:48,845
We'll hear a second. Second. A motion May 2nd.

2632
02:13:48,985 --> 02:13:53,365
Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.

2633
02:13:53,435 --> 02:13:57,845
Opposed? Good luck. I hope it all works out.

2634
02:13:58,485 --> 02:14:02,725
I really do. Well on here. Thank you.

2635
02:14:02,975 --> 02:14:05,405
Thank you all. Yeah.

2636
02:14:05,405 --> 02:14:08,685
Thanks everyone for coming in for this civil discussion.

2637
02:14:08,805 --> 02:14:13,005
Always works better in civil. Okay.

2638
02:14:13,715 --> 02:14:16,605
There's no old business round table. Tyler?

2639
02:14:16,605 --> 02:14:20,965
Nothing for me, Scott. Good, Clayton, I'm good.

2640
02:14:21,755 --> 02:14:23,365
This next second, motion to adjourn.

2641
02:14:24,075 --> 02:14:27,165
Make a motion to adjourn. Second. A motion. Motion May 2nd.

2642
02:14:27,305 --> 02:14:28,805
All in favor? Aye. Aye.