1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,080 Mayor Reese >> here. Council member Ross 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,040 » here. >> Nelson here. Gilbertson 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,759 » here. >> Gardner 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,560 » here. >> Davis here. Butterfield 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,160 » here. >> Liz 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:26,160 » here. >> And Mr. Fragley is absent. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:29,800 So eight present, one absent. >> Stand for the pledge. 8 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:42,480 I pledge algiance to the flag of America and to the republic for which it stands. 9 00:00:38,559 --> 00:00:45,905 One god, indivisible, liberty and justice for [clears throat] 10 00:00:52,640 --> 00:01:02,320 just one agenda item. And who's taking it? I didn't ask Kyle or Leslie. 11 00:00:59,199 --> 00:01:04,159 » Oh, actually, I'm going to let Alyssa take it. 12 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:07,920 » Okay. >> HR director collected all this 13 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:13,680 information. >> You guys okay if I Rick? You can all see 14 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:17,119 me. >> There. That's your spot. 15 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:24,320 » Thanks. [laughter] Um, good morning. Thanks for coming so 16 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:29,920 early. Uh, so I think all of you guys know that we got our PEEP renewal back 17 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:35,360 the end of September. This was year one of a four-year contract. Um, so we were 18 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:40,880 not expecting to make any changes to our health insurance for this year, but our 19 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:46,240 PEP uh contract had an opt out clause if the renewal came back at 20% or above. 20 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:50,159 And it did come back at 20%. So that gave us the opportunity to go out and 21 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:56,720 get quotes from other insurance companies um or 22 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:00,200 uh for new health insurance. So if you want to go to 23 00:02:01,759 --> 00:02:11,120 Yep. Thank you. So um we engaged a broker to go out shopping for us. He did 24 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:17,840 an RFP and we got quotes back um 25 00:02:14,959 --> 00:02:22,560 uses Blue Cross and Health Partners. Uh we got quotes back from them directly 26 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:27,520 that were both well above uh PE's renewal rate. Um Blue Cross came back at 27 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:33,599 55.6% and Health Partners came back at a 37% 28 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:39,280 increase from our 2025 premiums. Medicica came back with a 13% increase. 29 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:47,519 And then kind of at the 11th hour, we got um a bid from um MHC, which is the 30 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:51,840 Minnesota Healthcare Consortium. So there's a whole bunch of entities across 31 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:58,879 the state of Minnesota that pull together for um purchase power of 32 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:03,760 insurance products. So we would access this through the Southwest West Central 33 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:09,120 Service Cooperative, which we're already members of. that gives us access to the 34 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:15,519 Minnesota Healthcare Consortium pool and that policy came back at just a 7% 35 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:20,720 increase over our 2025. So that's the contract that we're bringing to you guys 36 00:03:17,519 --> 00:03:27,040 today to approve um in addition to being the best rate. 37 00:03:24,239 --> 00:03:31,760 Next slide. Um it gives us more flexibility in what we can actually 38 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:36,799 offer our employees as well. So, we won't be locked into just a single plan 39 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:41,120 that has single and family coverage. Um, we would actually be able to offer not 40 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:45,599 only a plan that's pretty equivalent to what we would have offered through PEEP, 41 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:49,280 but we have two other plans available to employees as well, depending on what's a 42 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:53,519 better fit for them. So, for example, there's a higher deductible, lower 43 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:57,680 premium plan if employees want to take that cheaper option. Um, there are 44 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:02,720 different combinations of deductible and out-of pocket. And we were able to split 45 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:06,959 the plans up into four tiers. So instead of just single or family coverage, we'll 46 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:12,959 be able to offer employee plus children or employee plus spouse coverage, which 47 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:19,199 also is a better rate than family. Um, so you can see this kind of a 48 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:23,280 comparison of what that PE plan uh would have been for this year and the three 49 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:27,120 plans that we're planning to offer through the Minnesota Healthcare 50 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:31,759 Consortium, which does youth Medicica. It's also an open access network. Right 51 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:36,080 now with PEEP, employees have to name a primary care clinic and if they go 52 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:40,720 anybody outside of that clinic, they have to have a referral. Medicica uses 53 00:04:38,479 --> 00:04:44,240 an open access network. So anybody that's in network with Medicica, which 54 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:48,320 would be the majority of providers around the state, employees can go see. 55 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:52,320 They don't have to get referrals every time they have to go see somebody about 56 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:54,960 a knee or a dermatologist or a, you know, whatever. 57 00:04:53,199 --> 00:05:00,880 » So central here does except >> Yep. Yep. 58 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:04,800 So, that's what we're proposing today. That's the resolution that you guys 59 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:10,240 have. Um, one other additional thing we'd like to add on to that plan is an 60 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:13,840 employee assistance program for 2025. We have a version of this through the 61 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:17,199 standard, which is where we had our ancillary benefits. So, our life 62 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:22,240 insurance and all of those kinds of things. We had already switched away 63 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:26,160 from them for 2026 because we were able to get better rates on all of those 64 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:30,240 benefits. Um, but the one thing we lost was an employee assistance program 65 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:34,240 through them. Um, Medicica allows us to add that on for just a $180 per 66 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:40,240 employee. So, that would get added on to the premium and that offers employees 67 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:45,199 the opportunity to go see um, usually virtually a counselor for anything from 68 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:49,759 like mental health and substance abuse issues to things like going through a 69 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:54,240 divorce or my child's struggling in school, that kind of thing. They can get 70 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:58,880 up to five sessions per event for free for them or family members. Um there's 71 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:05,919 financial planning assistance. They can help um people find child care or elder 72 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:11,120 care. Quite a few different um nurses and additional support to employees. Um 73 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:15,759 with the idea that besides supporting our employees, when people have access 74 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:19,759 to those kind of services, it helps keep them out of like the ER for example. 75 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:24,639 They can get mental health counseling, that kind of thing. So for an almost 76 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:28,720 invisible cost compared to the overall premium, um we'd like to add on that 77 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:34,680 additional service to the plan as well for employees. 78 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,680 » Questions? 79 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:43,919 » Yeah. Um so it seems to me you found us the plan that's that's far cheaper than 80 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:48,639 the alternatives that seems better than what we currently have at least gives 81 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:53,680 employees better option. Uh, what objections might you foresee coming from 82 00:06:51,039 --> 00:07:01,360 employees who would find the older plan better? What do you What do we hear? 83 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:04,319 » Honestly, other than that they have a different insurance card, they're not 84 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:08,560 going to notice a change. We're even able to keep our same HSA administrator, 85 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:16,000 so we don't even have to switch where their HSA dollars go. So, I don't 86 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:20,000 anticipate a complaint. Um there's there's more plan options for those 87 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:23,199 people that have been paying the family rate for just themselves and their 88 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:27,680 spouse. They'll be able to get a cheaper plan. Um for those people that rarely go 89 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:31,599 to the doctor and would rather take that high deductible plan and have a low 90 00:07:29,919 --> 00:07:36,479 premium. So I mean there will be a a slight 91 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,800 increase in premium because there is every year with healthcare and they're 92 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:45,919 never happy about that. But their experience 93 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:52,840 really changed. So, it's it was hard for me to imagine what what those complaints 94 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,840 hold to me. I don't see any. 95 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:01,199 » What's your experience? [laughter] >> Well, it sounds better if you ask me. 96 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:07,280 So, I don't >> It's a better plan. Like, we didn't give 97 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:11,039 up any coverage for the price. We didn't have to say, "Okay, we're really 98 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,400 restricting our network or whatever in order to get something reasonably 99 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:18,800 priced." It's actually a better plan, better coverage, better network for the 100 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:23,039 price once we went out on the open market and shopping. 101 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:30,160 » Um, yeah, >> out of the $154,000 102 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:33,519 increase uh from last year's costs, how much of that will be on the city and how 103 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:38,719 much of that will be on the >> That will depend on negotiations. So 104 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:44,159 that's to to be determined still based on what the union contracts end up being 105 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:46,959 » in the event that they are identical to last year. What is burnt down? 106 00:08:46,626 --> 00:08:54,040 [clears throat] >> No, we can't answer that because that's 107 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:54,040 part of negotiations. 108 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:01,040 » Sorry, >> I guess. Okay. 109 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:04,560 Currently, what percentage of the health insurance premiums is covered by the 110 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:09,680 employees? currently 11%. 111 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:15,360 » Thank you. >> I will note one other thing about this 112 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:20,959 plan. Uh they gave us a secondyear rate guarantee not to exceed a 15% increase. 113 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:24,720 We would actually hope for something better and we're not locked into a 114 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:28,240 contract the way that we were with PE. So they'll give us a renewal based on 115 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:34,240 the market at that time and our claims and we can go shopping again. But worst 116 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:38,519 case scenario is our rate cannot exceed 15% increase for 2027. 117 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,640 » Any other questions? 118 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:50,480 » We are not I I have >> we are not locked in. So they gave us a 119 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,360 cap on the rate but it's not a contract. We can go shopping at the end of the 120 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:59,440 next year. They're going to be asked to select us, 121 00:09:55,839 --> 00:10:03,920 but if they're part of a union, they don't really know. 122 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,240 I mean, they have to select one of these three. 123 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,640 » Yes. Exactly. >> Based off on what their healthcare needs 124 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:15,120 are. >> Yes. The employer contribution will be 125 00:10:12,959 --> 00:10:18,880 the same for all three plans. The employee then chooses whether they want 126 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:24,320 to put their own dollars into a higher premium or a higher deductible. Thank 127 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:28,000 you. So, we don't know exactly what that employer contribution is yet, but it 128 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:31,920 will be the same no matter which plan they pick. So, the difference in the 129 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:36,079 cost of the plans would be their real savings no matter what. 130 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:40,079 » Steve has a question. >> What percentage increase did we assume 131 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:45,760 in our budget projection that this was going to, you know, I assume we assumed 132 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:49,120 some type of increase to this 20%. So, that in theory, this helps drive down 133 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:53,040 the budget a little bit. >> Yes. 134 00:10:50,079 --> 00:10:58,560 » Okay. Thanks. >> Any other questions? 135 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Other words, I'm looking for a motion to approve the 2026 health insurance. 136 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:13,440 » Second motion and a second. Discussion. Any further discussion? 137 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:17,360 Roll call. Council 138 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:20,560 » member Os. Hi. Nelson. Hi. Gilbertson. Hi. 139 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,600 » Gardner. Hi. Davis I Butterfield 140 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:29,320 » I and >> Shelus I 141 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:29,320 » seven eyes's zero nos 142 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:40,912 to second we are just broke >> [laughter] 143 00:11:38,892 --> 00:11:40,912 [clears throat] 144 00:11:42,823 --> 00:11:44,843 [laughter]