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Okay, I'd like to call the meeting to

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order. It's Tuesday, July 28th. It is 6

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Dina, do we have a quorum?

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» Yes, ma'am.

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>> Thank you. Okay. Would Ted Chitchens

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» Thank you. Okay. Would Ted Chitchens

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come forward? Ted, we're going to have

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you come say the prayer.

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Well, Madame Mayor and uh

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[clears throat]

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council members, men and women, the

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community thanks you for your service.

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Uh the spiritual comm community prays

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for you and uh we don't overlook the

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fact that you invest a lot of time

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trying to make our lives more prosperous

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and peaceful. So, it's my great joy to

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pray for you. Uh uh Father, we approach

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uh your sovereign throne this evening

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asking you for good favor for this

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meeting. Thanking you for each of these

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council men and women and the mayor who

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do sacrifice a great deal of time uh who

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give of themselves so that our lives can

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be more comfortable. we can be resting

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in peace raising our children and

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grandchildren in in a community that

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we're proud to be a part of. So, thank

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you for their service. Lord, I know

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there's a lot of decisions need to be

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made tonight that um individuals in the

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room are all being a part of. Uh I ask

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you that you'd give the council insight

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and wisdom as it relates to the the

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needs that are being presented [snorts]

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and everyone would uh be [clears throat]

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in love with each other from a Christian

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perspective even if there's times of

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disagreement and that at the end of the

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evening the things that need to be

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accomplished for the sake of the Willow

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Park community will be accomplished and

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this is our prayer to you Lord God in

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the name of your son our Lord Jesus.

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>> Amen.

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» Amen.

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I [snorts] pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America and to

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the republic for which it stands, one

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nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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» Honor the Texas flag. I aliance to thee,

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Texas, one state under God, one and

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indivisible.

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Thank you, Pastor [clears throat] Ted

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Kitchens. We appreciate you.

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Okay, tonight I'm sharing the Bible

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verse James 1:19.

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This you know, my beloved brethren,

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but everyone must be quick to hear, slow

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to speak, and slow to anger.

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Okay, Joyce, would you like to come

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Okay. The business I'd like to highlight

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tonight is Clean Eats Cafe located at

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Shops Boulevard. The owner is Joyce

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Bone. I had lunch there Thursday with

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some friends and I had the bison burger

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which was great. So, Joyce, do you want

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to step to the podium and just say a

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quick word about your business?

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Yes, ma'am. My name is Joyce and I

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picked uh Willow Park to retire and

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[snorts] chop broccoli for the rest of

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my life. Um we are a cafe uh that also

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does uh graband go meals. We focus on

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healthy, wholesome food. We also do a

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weekly meal prep where you can do

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special orders. We do special diets. Um

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anything that you need to have done, we

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do. We can do school lunches, school

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meals, daycarees, uh anything to that

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effect. And we also do a lot of

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catering. Love Willow Park, love the

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people, which you guys are which makes

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this place absolutely great. And love

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the community and hopefully it will go,

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you know, forward under Mayor Palmer in

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the right direction. So, thank you very

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>> Thank you. Please. Welcome to town.

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» Thank you. Please. Welcome to town.

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Okay. So, next we have a proclamation to

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recognize the Alto High School baseball

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team.

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>> They were in meeting today, by the way.

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» They were in meeting today, by the way.

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>> Were they? [laughter]

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>> How impressive are those? Okay, I'm

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» How impressive are those? Okay, I'm

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going to read your proclamation.

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So, whereas the Alto High School Bearcat

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baseball team brought home a class 5A

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state championship in 2026, capping off

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back-to-back titles. Wow. Right.

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Whereas, head coach Chad Barry,

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that's him. Yeah. and his program have

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now won three state titles in the last

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12 years and was named the Texas High

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School Coaches Association 5A region

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three coach of the year. And whereas the

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Bearcats show strength and hard work on

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and off the field with five players

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named to the Allstate tournament team,

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one player on the Texas High School

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Baseball Coaches Association Allstar

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and THSBCA

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class 5A elite team and two allstate

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first team selections. And whereas the

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city of Willow Park is honored to be the

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largest city in Alo Independent School

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District and the home of many of the

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exceptional young players. And now

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therefore, I, Mayor Teresa Palmer, ask

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you to join me in recognizing the hard

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work of these players, the coaching

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staff, and the assorted trainers,

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families, and fans who made us proud to

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be part of such an exciting time. I urge

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all citizens to extend their

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congratulations to the baseball team in

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the Alto Independent School District as

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a whole and witness whereof. I have set

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my hand and caused the seal of Willow

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Park, Texas to be affixed

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this 28th day of July 2026.

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of three. One, two,

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That was very nice. Thank you.

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Okay. Item two is a consent agenda to

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approve the regular council meetings

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from July 14th. We have some changes

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that need to be worked on. Dina, where

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are we on those? Are we waiting? What

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Um, the mayor sent me a message that

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said that she would like added or

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changed in the minutes um to say that

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Mayor Palmer stated she had asked for

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this item to be put on the agenda

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because she received a phone call and an

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email from council person in another

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um WHP overheard the city manager and

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city planner at of Willow Park speaking

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to other public officials as TML meeting

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and they were saying false fishes. some

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malicious things about the mayor.

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>> She asked the council to consider

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adopting an ordinance for new code of

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conduct. The city manager acknowledged

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her behavior at the TML meeting. So, I

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told her that because this is a

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correction totally different from what's

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in the minutes that it needed to be

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addressed at the table and that the

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council would be the ones to make the

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decision what goes in the minutes if it

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needs to be corrected or not. And you

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can either vote on it as, and correct me

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if I'm wrong, you can vote on it that

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you can say yes, we want that added and

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I can correct them. They can be approved

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tonight with the corruption or it can be

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tabled until the next meeting.

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want what I said, not what was rephrased

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>> right but this is very critical I think

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» right but this is very critical I think

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what I said

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>> the Bible verse hold your thought the

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» the Bible verse hold your thought the

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Bible verse was 2121 that was only the

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thing that I saw in there

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the minutes not what was rewritten so

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I'm [clears throat] asking for a motion

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to approve fixing the minutes do we have

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a motion to do that.

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>> Tony has a question. The last sentence

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» Tony has a question. The last sentence

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was the city manager acknowledged her

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behavior at the TML meeting.

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>> That is incorrect.

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» That is incorrect.

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» Okay. So, my memory of the discussion

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and we do have it on video is one

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comment you made is your comments that

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y'all made were after the meeting.

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That's what you said at the meeting and

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this complaint was 15 minutes into the

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meeting. So that is a correction that

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the person who wrote the letter of

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complaint it was 15 minutes into the

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meeting. So maybe you did it correct 15

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minutes into the meeting and then after

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the meeting probably several times I'm

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>> So this was for item number seven on the

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» So this was for item number seven on the

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July 14th meetings that are before you

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for approval. So it's item number seven

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that we're talking about.

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Well, can I suggest that [clears throat]

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if you do have a video that you make

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sure city council has the opportunity to

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view the video before they make a

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decision?

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>> Mhm. Okay. So, we want to table this and

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» Mhm. Okay. So, we want to table this and

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work on them and that way everybody can

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go back and listen the video, listen

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what was said.

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>> I didn't say that. That's up to city

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» I didn't say that. That's up to city

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council. What I said was I just wanted

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to make sure that everyone knew that

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that was available. Correct.

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>> Okay. So, do y'all want if you're not

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» Okay. So, do y'all want if you're not

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going to make a motion, do y'all want to

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table it? Make a motion to table.

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>> I'll make a motion to approve the

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» I'll make a motion to approve the

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regular city council meeting minutes

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dated July 14, 2026 as presented.

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» Okay. Do we have a second to

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>> a statement on I want if the mayor is

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» a statement on I want if the mayor is

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asking for specific

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verbiage that she specifically said and

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would like that added. I have no issue

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there. it will become at anything else

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that was

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opinion at that point and that's where

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like if you want to take the verbatim

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what you said and have that added as a

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script I have no issue there but I

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believe Miss Fischer has said that she

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didn't admit to that so there won't be

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any opinions added that I would go back

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and redo anything that you said is

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obviously part of it and the

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summarization is the process by which we

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do this

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>> I don't know what you just

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» I don't know what you just

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So, you're asking me to,

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>> if the council so desires to add the

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» if the council so desires to add the

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item that the mayor talked about

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verbatim as a a part of what's already

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there or change what's there,

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>> I would say make it an addition looking

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» I would say make it an addition looking

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at what's there. There's nothing that

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you can just add it.

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>> It was just a summary. Correct. That's

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» It was just a summary. Correct. That's

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how I do the minutes. I do

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[clears throat] a summary of what's the

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discussion. So,

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>> the summary is fine in my opinion. And

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» the summary is fine in my opinion. And

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if the mayor feels that her specific

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statements need to be added, I have no

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issue with that.

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>> We need a second on the motion or the

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» We need a second on the motion or the

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motion will die.

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>> Okay. Do we have a second for Nathan?

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» Okay. Do we have a second for Nathan?

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>> No, I'll I'll withdraw my motion.

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» No, I'll I'll withdraw my motion.

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>> Okay. So, do we have a second for

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» Okay. So, do we have a second for

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Nathan?

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>> I'll let me make the motion first

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» I'll let me make the motion first

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officially so we can go ahead. I'll make

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a motion to um update the city council

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meeting minutes from the 14th to reflect

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the mayor's verbatim uh statements that

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she would like added.

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>> Second.

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» Second.

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>> Second. All in favor.

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» Second. All in favor.

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Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate

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that.

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>> Did you skip public comments?

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» Did you skip public comments?

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>> No, we're going there. Sorry.

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» No, we're going there. Sorry.

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That's where we're at. Sorry.

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Next for public comments,

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Kenna Hannah.

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[clears throat]

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Mayor Teresa Palmer, council members and

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other city administrators and citizens.

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For your information, character

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assassination is a deliberate,

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malicious, and sustained effort to

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damage and rep reputation the

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credibility or character of an

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individual. It often relies on spreading

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rumors, manipulating facts, and using

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unfair criticism to destroy how the

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public or peers perceive the target

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person. Key components: intentional

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misinformation to use half-truths,

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exaggerating claims, or unright lies to

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paint someone in the negative light.

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Reputation damage. The primary goal is

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to make people stop trusting, liking or

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respecting the target person format. It

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happens through smear campaigns, gossip,

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media attacks or orchestrated public

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criticism. Why is it used? People or

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groups often resort to this tactic when

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they cannot compete fairly or lack

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logical arguments. By attacking

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someone's morals or inte integrity

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rather than their actual work, the

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attacker tries to disqualify them from a

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debate, election, or a social circle.

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A city council in Texas does not have

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the right to strip a mayor of their

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constitutional freedom of speech. An

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elected mayor retains their first

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amendment rights to express opinions

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even when those views are controversial

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or critical at the national level. In

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Texas, neither a city council nor city

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manager has a legal authority to

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unilaterally strip an elected mayor of

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their official duties or removed from

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their office state level. City council.

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A council cannot fire, suspend or strip

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elected mayor of their core legislative

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or presiding duties under Texas law or

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elected officials tenure is protected by

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the city level. City manager or city

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manager and administrative employee

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hired by council that oversee day-to-day

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staff operations have zero authority

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over elected officials. An ordinance of

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the city of Will Park, Texas, amending

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the city of Willow Park code ordinances.

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The portion that says chapter one

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providing the mayor and the city

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administrator to have control of the

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city control agenda. Duly passed at city

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council November 17, 2025. Let us

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sincerely try to respect the voters and

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those who have been elected by the

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voters in this city of Will Park, Texas

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of this United States of America. Thank

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you all. Thank you, Kenneth.

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[applause]

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» Okay, next we have Tara Stark.

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[clears throat]

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Good evening, mayor and council members.

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My name is Tara Stark and I live at 2004

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Ranch House Road. I want to speak

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tonight about something bigger than one

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development, any one property, or any

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one decision that comes before the

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council. I want to talk about legacy.

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What standard will you set for the

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legacy you want to leave the city of

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Willow Park? Because the decisions made

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in this room don't end when a meeting

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adjourns. They become part of the

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community. They shape what we see when

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we drive down our roads, the quality of

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life within our neighborhoods, and the

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character of the city we call home. And

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those decisions don't affect only you

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and me. They affect our children, our

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children's children, and generations we

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will never meet.

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[snorts] The truth is, one day all of us

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will be gone. But the land will still be

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here. And what will Willow Park look

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like 20, 50, and even 100 years from now

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will be influenced by the standards we

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choose to uphold today. Growth is

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inevitable. Change is inevitable. And a

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hundred years from now, another

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generation may look at what we built and

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decide to bulldoze it all and start all

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over. But until then, we are the

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stewards of this place.

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We have been entrusted with a community

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worth protecting and an opportunity to

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shape what it becomes.

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So, as future decisions come before you,

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I hope the question isn't simply what

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can we approve. I hope the question is

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what should we approve? What fits the

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character of Willow Park? What protects

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the quality of life of the people who

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already call it home? What will we be

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proud to drive past 20 years from now

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and say, "We got that right."

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There will always be pressure to grow.

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There will always be financial

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consideration. There will always be

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someone asking for an exception,

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asking for a variance or a different

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standard. But standards matter because

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once we lower them, what that will allow

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will become the expectation of tomorrow.

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Each one of you have been given the

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responsibility and an opportunity to

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help shape the future of Willow Park. My

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hope is that when you make those

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decisions, you don't consider the next

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project or the next few years. Consider

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the legacy.

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Because long after all of us are gone,

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the land will remain. and what we leave

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behind will tell future generations what

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we valued while it was ours to protect.

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Thank you.

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>> Thank you, Terra. [applause]

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» And next we have Marcy Galley.

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[clears throat]

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Good evening, mayor and council.

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Uh my name is Marcy Galley. I live at

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500 Squawk Creek Road.

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Let's see. We only have 3 minutes. So,

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the first thing I'd like to ask very

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quickly is I noticed that there was a

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speaker uh signing up to give comments

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and he was turned away because he didn't

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um submit within

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5 minutes before the meeting started.

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Can we please amend that to just if

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somebody gets in public comments uh a

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request to give public comments before

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the meeting starts at 6, we just allow

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them to speak?

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I don't know where that stipulation

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comes from. Okay. So, my first issue is

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I wanted to ask when the certificate of

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convenience and necessity amendments

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were when was that effort approved?

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I know that Jacob and Martin put in the

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application at the beginning of

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February.

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Can someone answer when that was

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approved? No, not during public comment.

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>> If you have an answer, you should

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» If you have an answer, you should

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answer,

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>> but not during public comment. We can't

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» but not during public comment. We can't

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bend the rules for one person.

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>> You can do it under TOMA in public

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» You can do it under TOMA in public

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comment. We always have.

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>> So,

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» So,

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and we're back to, you know, people

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running the meeting that aren't running

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the that aren't supposed to be running

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the meeting. So, anyway, okay. How much

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was the effort,

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right? How much are we paying Jacob and

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Martin to amend RCN's for water and

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sewer?

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And I'd like to know when every public

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official of Willow Park was aware that

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we were putting in those amendments

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through the PUC.

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And why is Gretchen Vasquez not the one

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overseeing that effort? She's our

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in-house engineer.

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Number two, I wanted to know the

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Bandidas Willow Park item number on item

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12. We're doing economic development

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negotiations with Bandidas Willow Park.

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So, is there an application online for

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economic development requests for all

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businesses that come to the city or do

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we pick winners and losers? Because

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that's kind of the way it feels to me.

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I know personally that some businesses

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have been required to retrofit as they

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move here from other cities. And do we

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do we require that for all businesses? I

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mean, who do we give those incentives

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to?

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And uh I would like to just say Bankhead

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Highway should never be completely

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closed to through traffic. I would like

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to see one lane open. And I don't know

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why we're doing it that way because I

546
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don't believe it was bid that way. And

547
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,240
if it was bid that way, that was an

548
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,760
error.

549
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:47,645
Thank you. Thank you.

550
00:22:47,655 --> 00:22:48,240
[applause]

551
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,600
Okay. Next, we have Chris Wood wants to

552
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,230
speak.

553
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,640
I'm Chris Wood. I live at 184 Crown

554
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,760
Point Boulevard. Please evaluate

555
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,159
employee compensation based on the

556
00:23:04,159 --> 00:23:06,720
actual duties that each position

557
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,400
performs. Consider also a regular cost

558
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,200
of living adjustment so city pay keeps

559
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,280
pace with inflation.

560
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,480
I support adequate pay for Willow Park

561
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,080
city employees. Willow Park employee pay

562
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,480
may generally appear average, but that

563
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,280
average does not tell the whole story.

564
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,919
Pay varies by role and the police

565
00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:32,480
department has recently faced retention

566
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,080
challenges.

567
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,240
Comparing Willow Park city employee

568
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,480
compensation is difficult because the

569
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,760
city operates with a lean staff. Many

570
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,080
employees wear multiple hats to keep

571
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,960
services running. This makes standard

572
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,280
role for roll comparisons with other

573
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,440
cities incomplete and somewhat

574
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,120
misleading.

575
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:55,440
Employees often juggle duties across

576
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,640
departments. For example, public works

577
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,840
staff may also handle code enforcement.

578
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,720
Salary surveys rarely match these exact

579
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,840
blended jobs, leaving no clear baseline

580
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,919
for compensation.

581
00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:12,960
A base salary may look high or low until

582
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,200
you factor in the weighted average of

583
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,080
the various skill sets and market rates

584
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,480
for all the indivivividual functions the

585
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,320
employee performs.

586
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,360
I believe in safety first. Thank you for

587
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:28,880
approving a 2.5% pay increase for police

588
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,120
officers in May to improve staff

589
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,919
retention. Retention is critical for

590
00:24:33,919 --> 00:24:35,679
police departments because it helps

591
00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:38,720
prevent burnout, preserves knowledge,

592
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,000
and reduces costly overtime. Experienced

593
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,799
officers can also mentor recruits,

594
00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:46,880
creating a safer and stable work

595
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,520
environment. This benefits all of Willow

596
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,200
Park. Adequate employee salaries helps a

597
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,760
municipality attract and retain skilled

598
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,159
professionals, maintain highquality

599
00:24:58,159 --> 00:25:00,640
services, and reduce the financial

600
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,039
burden of constant turnover.

601
00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:06,559
Competitive, fair pay also boosts morale

602
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:09,120
and helps keep experienced employees

603
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:11,120
serving the public instead of leaving

604
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:13,360
for other opportunities.

605
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,919
Please evaluate whether city employee

606
00:25:15,919 --> 00:25:18,960
pay aligns with actual workload by

607
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,360
identifying the tasks each employee

608
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:24,400
performs. Compare these responsibilities

609
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,200
with the relevant market rates and

610
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,520
adjust compensation where duties have

611
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,559
grown beyond the job title. Please also

612
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,880
consider implementing regular cost of

613
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,000
living adjustments for city employees. I

614
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,480
am on disability and the yearly cola

615
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,480
gives me peace of mind because it

616
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,799
protects my purchasing power and helps

617
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:47,279
maintain my standard of living. City

618
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,760
employees deserve similar protection.

619
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,480
Thank you.

620
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,909
>> Thank you.

621
00:25:53,919 --> 00:26:02,630
» And next we have Jean Martin.

622
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,640
» Madam Mayor, other members of the

623
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,559
Bullpart City Council, I'm Gene Martin.

624
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:08,960
I continue to reside at 700 Kingsgate

625
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,440
Road. Many meetings ago, the new solid

626
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,360
waste contract was a hot topic due to

627
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:15,360
the sudden 25%

628
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,919
increase to residents. Statements were

629
00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:19,440
made that there would be discussions

630
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,600
with the other five affected cities from

631
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,200
that contract. [clears throat]

632
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,480
Uh there have been no updates since. Uh

633
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,480
however, after researching the expense

634
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,480
other communities face, I'm not overly

635
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,240
concerned about the current rate. We're

636
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,919
actually getting a pretty good deal. I

637
00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:35,760
think

638
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,760
waste management changed their process

639
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,880
though. The historic single trash truck

640
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,360
that used to go around pick up trash, it

641
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,840
still runs around, picks up well what it

642
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,720
does is goes about 30 35 mph down the

643
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,279
road looking to see if anybody has left

644
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:53,840
any like yard debris next to the

645
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,919
96gallon

646
00:26:55,919 --> 00:26:58,400
containers. And then the other truck

647
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,000
comes around, goes up one side of the

648
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,200
street, bumps the down the other side.

649
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,279
So effectively waste management has

650
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:08,320
tripled the trash truck load on our

651
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,679
meter streets.

652
00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:14,240
Um we all remain curious on the intent

653
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,480
of the twice repeated agenda item to

654
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,720
impose subdivision regulations in our

655
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,400
ETJ.

656
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,200
Uh it's an extremely complex subject.

657
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,360
Uh, local government code chapters 212

658
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,360
and 242

659
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:31,679
allow limited control over platin

660
00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:34,320
infrastructure standards.

661
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,400
Do not appear to be any provisions to

662
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,799
mandate building codes or create zoning

663
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:40,880
definitions.

664
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,520
Steps to limit data center development

665
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,799
seem to be universally agreeable to

666
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:50,320
everyone not specifically wanting to own

667
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,480
a data center.

668
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,480
However, putting those buzzwords in an

669
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,279
agenda item is counterproductive to

670
00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:00,159
establishing general standards

671
00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:03,120
that might achieve the desired result

672
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:06,159
without being considered discriminatory.

673
00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:08,720
You can't just do something for data

674
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,200
centers. Okay.

675
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,279
Last month discussion identified naming

676
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:16,720
apart for previously for previous mayor

677
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,159
promly young. I as someone who solicited

678
00:28:20,159 --> 00:28:23,279
Lee to run for city council years before

679
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,679
she did. I wholeheartedly uh support

680
00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:29,039
that. Um I'm going to have to shorten

681
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:31,919
this. [snorts] Um it's encouraging that

682
00:28:31,919 --> 00:28:34,240
the parks department semiannual report

683
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,320
indicates vegetation improvements at the

684
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200
memorial park. question is, is there a

685
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,919
water source for the vegetation there? I

686
00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:43,760
recall, and I think Leah Young told me

687
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,559
this, that the water for that park was

688
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:48,799
primarily from the aerobic system that

689
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,240
used to service the previous city hall.

690
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,120
Of course, that's not operating anymore.

691
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,919
And by the way, on the last thing, the

692
00:28:57,919 --> 00:29:01,039
2.5% raise for the police department is

693
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:04,799
about $50,000 total. and the total raise

694
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:06,480
for

695
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,120
city service fees will be $720,000

696
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,480
per your budget.

697
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,710
>> Thank you,

698
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:14,720
» Thank you,

699
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,789
Bill Green. [applause]

700
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:22,640
» Thank you, Madame Mayor, City Council.

701
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,279
Bill Green, still like him living on his

702
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:28,000
street. I'm still on Vista Drive and we

703
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,679
sure are getting a lot of rock trucks

704
00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:31,200
coming down there, but we'll talk about

705
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,679
that sometime. we can get together. But

706
00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:35,840
anyhow, uh I didn't have anything in

707
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,279
particular I was going to say till I

708
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:38,799
walked in here, but then I got to

709
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:41,120
thinking about things. And we're going

710
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,919
to call this past, present, and future.

711
00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:45,760
The guys on this side of the room are

712
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,559
the past. They grew up under a different

713
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:50,480
group of people, a different way of

714
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,640
thinking, a different way of doing

715
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,520
business. A lot of times that business

716
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,159
was never made to where the people that

717
00:29:58,159 --> 00:30:00,640
live here could tell what was going on.

718
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,039
Okay, let's move along a little bit. The

719
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,760
new guys over here, they're just now

720
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,039
getting into this and we don't want them

721
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,200
to have the same way of thinking as

722
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200
these over here. And we've talked about

723
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,399
that. Not that you guys are bad guys. I

724
00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:18,880
just think you make bad decisions. I

725
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,520
think you make decisions that are not

726
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,720
helpful to the citizens of Willow Park.

727
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,720
Roads. You still haven't done anything

728
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,279
on roads. The roads were part of the

729
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:31,919
campaign for the guys over here. Nothing

730
00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:34,720
has happened. Squawk Creek, nothing has

731
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,880
happened down there. That was part of

732
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,200
what everybody set their votes for on

733
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,559
it. A lot of people placed their faith

734
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:45,120
in you guys whenever you got elected,

735
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,120
hoping that it would wash over to you

736
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,600
guys here. Okay, that's past and that's

737
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,200
a little bit of present. A little bit of

738
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,399
present. We got things going with uh be

739
00:30:56,399 --> 00:31:01,269
uh excavation up there.

740
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,200
Who's paying for it? Are any of our

741
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000
taxes going to that? Who's servicing the

742
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,520
water that's going to come to it? Are

743
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,760
any of our taxes doing that? Are we

744
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,840
going to run out of water on that?

745
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,000
What's going on? I mean, everything is

746
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,880
hush, hush, hush.

747
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,159
Now to the future. We're not the only

748
00:31:20,159 --> 00:31:22,320
city that are having these problems.

749
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,720
Just about every small city or medium

750
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,279
city in the state of Texas is having

751
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:29,600
issues with their city councils, with

752
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,559
their mayors, with everybody else that's

753
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:36,000
there to make their life better. And

754
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,211
some of them have found a way out of it.

755
00:31:38,211 --> 00:31:39,679
[clears throat]

756
00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:42,399
Trinidad, Texas, San Angelo, Texas,

757
00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:44,960
Abalene, Texas,

758
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,360
Houston, Texas

759
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,840
are all under investigation by the Texas

760
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,360
Rangers

761
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,600
because of the things that has come to

762
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,440
their attention,

763
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,840
but the government of Texas has put them

764
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,720
in a position to go rectify it. They've

765
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,880
arrested people.

766
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,960
People have left town so they don't get

767
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,880
arrested.

768
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,320
There's more out there. I don't even

769
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,000
know who all is out there. I just pick

770
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,320
up on on what on what I see and what I

771
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,399
hear. What I don't want to see is Roy is

772
00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:18,559
the Lone Ranger come riding in here in

773
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:22,080
Ohio Silver and take you guys away. What

774
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,640
I want to see is you guys getting back

775
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,480
to taking care of the people that live

776
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,360
here.

777
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:34,710
>> Thank you. Thank you. [applause]

778
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,559
» Okay, now we're going to go to item

779
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:37,919
three. We're going to talk about the

780
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:40,240
wildlife. And Jean, do you want to talk

781
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,360
about that before we get our

782
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,799
presentation?

783
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:43,669
>> Yes.

784
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:43,679
» Yes.

785
00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:44,389
>> Okay.

786
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:44,399
» Okay.

787
00:32:44,399 --> 00:32:46,789
>> I'm Jean Martin. I'm still at 700 King's

788
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:46,799
» I'm Jean Martin. I'm still at 700 King's

789
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:49,440
Gate. Uh and I talked to a couple people

790
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,519
that are here because they want to find

791
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:55,360
out what's going on about deer. Okay. Um

792
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,039
Sunday morning I went out just in

793
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,679
Willowwood up King's Gate, down

794
00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:01,760
Queensway, and up Knight's Bridge. Just

795
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,679
those three little street about 100

796
00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:08,880
acres. And I only counted 27 adult deer.

797
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,320
28 those seven bucks.

798
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,000
And the bugs, boy, they're getting nice

799
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,080
finery. Still a little fuzzy, but

800
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,600
they're growing stuff. They're getting

801
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,200
fed well. Okay. Um Oh, they were

802
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,200
accompanied by 14 pawns.

803
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,360
Okay.

804
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,360
So, just in my neighborhood, we're

805
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,000
looking at about a 50% increase in the

806
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,519
size of the herd.

807
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,519
Everyone I know cannot help but smile at

808
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:41,440
the playful annex if you see three or

809
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,399
four fawns jumping around in the yard.

810
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:48,559
They're just beautiful. They're fun.

811
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:51,039
Um, but those smiles turn to grimaces if

812
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,279
anyone darts across the road in front of

813
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:56,640
a vehicle, which they do. probably about

814
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,480
the only way we have attrition in that

815
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,240
herd.

816
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,640
Um, so most everyone tolerates the herd

817
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,480
of living lawn or that we have

818
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,760
make a mistake, this herd is not

819
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,919
wildlife.

820
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:15,440
We're here to talk about game and

821
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,679
wildlife, but they're domesticated.

822
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,679
They're domesticated by people feeding

823
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,639
them and everyone else accepting their

824
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:25,919
presence.

825
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:27,599
When I walk out of my house, often

826
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:29,679
there'll be a dough.

827
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,599
Does the dough run away? Nope. The dough

828
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:33,280
take a couple steps for me to see if I

829
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,919
have anything to eat.

830
00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:37,679
My neighbor stopped feeding them after

831
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,599
she found that they they ate all her

832
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,000
flowers and shrubs in addition to the

833
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,879
food. These lawn ornaments are

834
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:47,119
destructive. They are not malicious or

835
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:51,520
dangerous, but they are a problem.

836
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,599
Looks like I said the will the will of

837
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:56,000
wood local herd will increase by about

838
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,960
50%. There's no natural predators in

839
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,240
wildwood. At least not yet. That's a

840
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,480
question I'm going to have I hope our

841
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,320
representative answers. What's the

842
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,320
likelihood of herd this size attracting

843
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,920
predators into our neighborhood?

844
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,119
Does anyone remember the founder of Wild

845
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,280
Hogs that decided to make Squall Creek

846
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,920
and the Clear Fork run their home base?

847
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,320
This is like 2014, 2010.

848
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,440
Um that was before Meet Place developed

849
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,280
for Wilks. We [clears throat] found a

850
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,079
trapper to gather them and relocate them

851
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,640
and he did it for free. Actually, he

852
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,119
relocated them to a honey preserve that

853
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:41,520
paid him to bring them.

854
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,200
Please consider if there's an available

855
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,359
option to re relocate many if not all of

856
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:48,640
our non wild

857
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,870
>> Thank you. All right. Thank you. Okay.

858
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:50,880
» Thank you. All right. Thank you. Okay.

859
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,720
Now we're going to have the parks and

860
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,520
wildlife representative to discuss deer

861
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,160
issues. Kaylee is going to come and do

862
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,480
our presentation for us. Hi Kaylee.

863
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,349
>> Hi. How are you?

864
00:36:01,349 --> 00:36:01,359
» Hi. How are you?

865
00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:04,550
>> Good. Okay. Um so my name is Kaylee

866
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:04,560
» Good. Okay. Um so my name is Kaylee

867
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,560
Baduna Aught. I'm the wildlife biologist

868
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,119
for Texas Parks and Wildlife. I cover

869
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:11,359
Tarant Parker, Hood, Johnson, and

870
00:36:11,359 --> 00:36:13,520
Somerville counties. My primary

871
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,440
responsibility is working with private

872
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520
land owners on game species, but we do a

873
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,880
little bit of everything wherever we're

874
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,680
needed. Um, I'm here today because I

875
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,839
received a call about concern for urban

876
00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:26,160
deer. And luckily, this is something

877
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,400
that we see quite a bit. So, there's

878
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,320
some few publications that came out and

879
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,320
I provided those. I'll talk a little bit

880
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,839
about them today, but it's a problem

881
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:38,320
that can be solved if you're willing to

882
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,880
take the steps to do so. Um, so the

883
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,400
first thing when talking to urban

884
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,800
municipalities, HOAs, private land

885
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,240
owners, anyone that thinks they have a

886
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,560
deer problem, the number one step is to

887
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,320
determine where we are. What do you

888
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,560
decide the problem is and is it actually

889
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,440
a problem? Um, so the number one thing

890
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,599
you can do that is a deer survey. Figure

891
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,520
out what your population is within the

892
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,200
cities. Another thing that you can keep

893
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,200
track of is the number of deer vehicle

894
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,040
collisions. I know that three different

895
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,119
fawns have been hit on the same access

896
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:09,599
road of 20 this week. Um the amount of

897
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:11,680
property damage that comes from it and

898
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,200
then um doing urb or doing neighborhood

899
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,720
surveys with the people to figure out

900
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:18,560
their tolerance toward deer which we

901
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,880
heard a little bit of. Um the next step

902
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,960
is to be identify where we want to be.

903
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,680
So just defining what success looks like

904
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,520
whether that is maintaining the herd you

905
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,119
have if your population you feel like

906
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,200
it's a good number or if that's kind of

907
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,280
thinning it out maintaining and getting

908
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,680
it to a point where you can maintain and

909
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,200
then the third thing is kind of bridging

910
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,280
the gap. So where you are and where you

911
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,040
want to be and kind of the strategy

912
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,960
strategy to do that. That's kind of

913
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,720
where I come in. We provide technical

914
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,800
guidance. Um I'm giving you my

915
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,720
professional opinion on it. It's all

916
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,560
based on science based on research

917
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,960
that's been done across the state. Um,

918
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,320
for urban approaches specifically,

919
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,920
there are kind of three approaches.

920
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,200
We're kind of past the first one, but

921
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,960
I'm going to talk about it anyways. Um,

922
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,720
so there's planning for wildlife that's

923
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:04,720
in developmental stages of cities and

924
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,400
maintaining green spaces, stuff like

925
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,480
that to kind of promote wildlife to stay

926
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,079
in their wild areas rather than

927
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,560
encroaching in those urban areas. Um, so

928
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,160
it's just suitable use of natural

929
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,160
resources and kind of reconnecting your

930
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,839
society with the natural world. Again,

931
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:19,280
that's more in the planning phase. We

932
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,280
might be a little past that. Uh, number

933
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,160
two is getting to the root cause. That's

934
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,960
probably where we are right now. Um, so

935
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,720
it's an environment that does not

936
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:31,040
encourage overabundant deer. That's the

937
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,560
goal. You want to have a healthy

938
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,720
population that's maintainable. We call

939
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:36,960
it carrying capacity. So whatever the

940
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,720
land can provide for, that's the numbers

941
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:41,599
you want. Um, ideal habitat in the Cross

942
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,359
Timbers and Prairies eco region, which

943
00:38:43,359 --> 00:38:45,119
is where we're situated, is a deer per

944
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,920
25 acres. And that is completely ideal

945
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,920
conditions. I mean like pristine

946
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,560
prairie, rangeand, all the jazz. We

947
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,040
aren't really that. Um so that would be

948
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,400
that would be nice. It's just not

949
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,480
possible. But um another thing that we

950
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,440
talk about when it comes to

951
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,000
overabundance is preventing feeding

952
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
altogether, both intentionally and

953
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,240
unintentionally. Uh we don't really want

954
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:09,920
to feed any wildlife. And I can go into

955
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,160
that a little more if you would like.

956
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,040
Um, and it's important to allow your

957
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,640
predators, your natural predators, your

958
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,359
coyotes and bobcats to not be habituated

959
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:21,040
to people. And that kind of goes back to

960
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,720
the unintentional feeding. If people

961
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:24,640
feed feral cats, raccoons, stuff like

962
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,480
that, you're attracting coyotes. They

963
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,000
get kind of used to people. They start

964
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,839
showing up at parks. We don't want that.

965
00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:31,359
We want them to act the way that they're

966
00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:33,520
supposed to. Same thing with the deer.

967
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,440
The third approach is the do nothing

968
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,240
approach. Uh so this you need to prepare

969
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:41,359
for increased loss of vegetation um and

970
00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:44,000
money that goes into landscaping. You're

971
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,599
going to have increased deer vehicle

972
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,520
accidents. You have potential for your

973
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,920
deer to actually starve out or be

974
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,480
congregated enough that diseases and

975
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,640
parasites start to pass around and then

976
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,760
you're going to have a decline of

977
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,680
habitat for your other wildlife species

978
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,119
like your small mammals, your song

979
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:01,359
birds, stuff like that. And I have other

980
00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:03,040
things that I hope are going to be asked

981
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,480
questions, but I have a little bit more

982
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,520
to talk about feeding if you would like.

983
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,310
>> So I have a a question. Do y'all have um

984
00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:12,320
» So I have a a question. Do y'all have um

985
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,640
are y'all doing any trapping and

986
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,320
relocating?

987
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,190
>> So before I started as a biologist, we

988
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:19,200
» So before I started as a biologist, we

989
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,760
had a program. It was called traps trap

990
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,400
transport and transllocate. It was then

991
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,280
seized due to CWD being detected in the

992
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,440
state of Texas. So, we no longer allowed

993
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,359
transport of living deer at all across

994
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:32,560
the whole state of Texas.

995
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,310
>> What did you say? Explain that.

996
00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:34,320
» What did you say? Explain that.

997
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,910
>> Chronic wasting disease. I do have that

998
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:35,920
» Chronic wasting disease. I do have that

999
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,440
to talk about. Sorry.

1000
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,238
>> I have no idea what you just said. Okay.

1001
00:40:39,238 --> 00:40:39,248
» I have no idea what you just said. Okay.

1002
00:40:39,248 --> 00:40:39,760
[laughter]

1003
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,670
>> Chronic wasting disease. Um, it was

1004
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:41,680
» Chronic wasting disease. Um, it was

1005
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,560
introduced in Texas and we don't want it

1006
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,880
to go into our native herd. So, it it

1007
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,720
kind of cut down on movement of wild

1008
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,200
deer altogether. There is a program that

1009
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,320
is TTP, which is trap, transllocate, and

1010
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,800
process. Um, I have a couple cities that

1011
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,880
do partake in this. Pretty much it's you

1012
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,160
pick a location that you're going to

1013
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,640
trap at. You can set a drop net, trap

1014
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,400
deer. Those get transported to a

1015
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,119
processing facility. They are processed

1016
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,119
and then the meat is donated. So, that

1017
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:11,599
is a program that we offer.

1018
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:13,270
>> Okay.

1019
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:13,280
» Okay.

1020
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,040
Wow. And that's your only choice? You

1021
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,800
don't relocate them somewhere else and

1022
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,839
let them run away?

1023
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:19,910
>> No, ma'am. Not anymore to diseases,

1024
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:19,920
» No, ma'am. Not anymore to diseases,

1025
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,920
especially urban deer. Um, so I have a

1026
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,599
couple diseases that I've actually dealt

1027
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,599
with um, in these counties, if you don't

1028
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:27,440
mind me talking about them really quick.

1029
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,520
Um, one of the number one things that I

1030
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,280
see in deer that are fed by people is

1031
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,119
laminitis, also called floundering.

1032
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:34,923
Floundering. It happens in

1033
00:41:34,923 --> 00:41:36,079
[clears throat] sheep, goats, anything

1034
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,000
with hooves. Um, so pretty much what it

1035
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,920
is is it's caused by an imbalance of of

1036
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,560
a high carbohydrate diet. If you don't

1037
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,160
know what deer eat, they eat mostly

1038
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,480
forbes and brows. They don't eat grass.

1039
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,640
Um, and so whenever you feed them a

1040
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,640
whole bunch of corn and it's just carbs,

1041
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,880
they kind of lack that fiber, which then

1042
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,200
causes um a drop in pH in their

1043
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,720
digestive tract, which is called

1044
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,760
acidosis. Um, and then this causes

1045
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,720
reduced [clears throat] blood flow to

1046
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,240
all your extremities, and they get these

1047
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:03,920
really, really long hooves. So, it makes

1048
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,680
them painful for them to walk. They'll

1049
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,359
stop eating. You can hear them clicky

1050
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:09,119
clacking around on the road. Um, and it

1051
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:10,880
usually just causes a decline of health.

1052
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,640
So, I have seen that. And then in the

1053
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,000
springtime, I've dealt with a couple

1054
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,079
deer that die from pneumonia. Um, it's a

1055
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:17,920
bacterial disease. It's not susceptible

1056
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,520
to people or anything like that, but

1057
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,079
deer pass it around really quickly in in

1058
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:23,839
urban areas because they're so close

1059
00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:25,760
together. And usually they're they're

1060
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,359
congregating at something that can pass

1061
00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:30,319
it along. So, a bucket of corn, a bird

1062
00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:32,079
feeder, stuff like that. So, it's on a

1063
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:33,200
surface and then they're just pretty

1064
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,960
much passing it deer to deer and then

1065
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,440
they will die from that. And then I can

1066
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,880
talk about chronic wasting disease if

1067
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,160
you would like, but we don't have it in

1068
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,119
our counties.

1069
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:44,309
>> So, do y'all um drive around like Will

1070
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:44,319
» So, do y'all um drive around like Will

1071
00:42:44,319 --> 00:42:46,319
Park? would you drive around and see how

1072
00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:48,640
many there are or what's your process?

1073
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,119
Right.

1074
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,829
>> So, for deer surveys, we can um provide

1075
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:51,839
» So, for deer surveys, we can um provide

1076
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:53,920
guidance on how for you guys would be

1077
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,000
easiest for you to do it. Um we have a

1078
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,599
couple cities that run their own kind of

1079
00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:59,839
like a spotlight route, but it's a

1080
00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:01,040
little bit of modified. They do it

1081
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,400
during the day. So, they start at a

1082
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,000
central location and they have people go

1083
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,319
out and do a minimum count of beer. So,

1084
00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:07,599
it kind of gives you your minimum

1085
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,440
population. It's not. You'll have to add

1086
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,520
in a couple numbers to adjust for your

1087
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,520
fawn crop and stuff like that, but that

1088
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,119
would give you a baseline of the minimum

1089
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:16,640
number of deer you're seeing. That's

1090
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,760
under the assumption that where

1091
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,040
everyone's walking, you're not double

1092
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,400
counting deer, right? If you have people

1093
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,839
over here and over here, this deer's not

1094
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:23,599
running and they're counting it twice.

1095
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:25,520
Um, you also, there's a new thing that's

1096
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,839
coming about with drone surveys. Um,

1097
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:29,839
they're kind of new on the private side,

1098
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:32,079
but I haven't seen any cities do it yet,

1099
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,160
but it might be a good option. um you do

1100
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,760
a drone survey and it runs certain um

1101
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,680
like lines pretty much throughout the

1102
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,960
city and it's covering the whole thing

1103
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,040
and it's counting deer as it's going. So

1104
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,960
then you're getting an actual population

1105
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,440
estimate. Um we have people that do that

1106
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,880
and then you can provide me numbers and

1107
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,800
I can provide you with recommendations

1108
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,359
on hey your herd's too high your herd's

1109
00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:54,640
you know you have too many bucks too

1110
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,079
many does stuff like that.

1111
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,069
>> So we get like volunteers with the city

1112
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:58,079
» So we get like volunteers with the city

1113
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:00,000
who are going to check the herds.

1114
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,630
>> Yes ma'am. Um, the one that I work with

1115
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:02,640
» Yes ma'am. Um, the one that I work with

1116
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,720
most closely, they have a group, I think

1117
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:06,400
it's a little smaller than Willow Park,

1118
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,640
but they have a group of about 20 people

1119
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,480
and they pick a main road, which

1120
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,480
probably for here's Ranch House. Um, so

1121
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,319
they pick a main road and then they have

1122
00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:16,240
everyone has a sector and so they go out

1123
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,319
at the same time. They either do it uh

1124
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:20,400
pretty close to sunrise or 30 minutes

1125
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,160
after sunset. That's when deer are most

1126
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,240
active. Um, and they go out and they

1127
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:25,760
count and they pretty much get a minimum

1128
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,280
count of the population.

1129
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,910
>> Okay. Scott, you had something to add.

1130
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:29,920
» Okay. Scott, you had something to add.

1131
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,119
Can you come to the podium?

1132
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:33,430
>> Can I have to ask my left for real

1133
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:33,440
» Can I have to ask my left for real

1134
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,400
person? No, I'm asking for real. Can I

1135
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:36,960
come to the podium?

1136
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,550
>> Oh, I can I can answer. It's up to you.

1137
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:38,560
» Oh, I can I can answer. It's up to you.

1138
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,079
I don't know what you guys

1139
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:41,990
>> Yeah, I think you can come up come up to

1140
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:42,000
» Yeah, I think you can come up come up to

1141
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,680
the podium and if you have a question,

1142
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,760
I'm sure she can help answer that for

1143
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,400
us.

1144
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,069
>> Um, I'm a little bit of game in this cuz

1145
00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:48,079
» Um, I'm a little bit of game in this cuz

1146
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:49,359
when I walked out to come to this

1147
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:50,800
meeting, I had like a dozen deer

1148
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,640
sleeping in my front yard. They sleep

1149
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,960
there every night. Um, I live near the

1150
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,839
spillway. Um, there's collateral to

1151
00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:00,400
this. And while I think this is a thing

1152
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,560
that could be looked at, I think that

1153
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,280
the issue of coyotes is about tfold more

1154
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,040
important because there's not 10 coyotes

1155
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,200
here. There's about 50. And I hear them

1156
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,720
kill deer every single night in the

1157
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,359
spillway. So, if you remove the deer,

1158
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:14,720
you're going to have coyotes killing

1159
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:17,119
your cats, your dogs, and they walk

1160
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:18,720
through my neighbor's backyard during

1161
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:22,240
the day. Coyotes are nocturnal. So, I

1162
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:23,920
watched them walk down Creek at

1163
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,359
high noon. [clears throat]

1164
00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:27,520
They're unaffected by this. So, before

1165
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,839
you start taking their food source away,

1166
00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:31,520
you better address the coyote because

1167
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,040
one of my friends owns a thousand

1168
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,880
something acres north of here and he

1169
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,960
pays them to call them and he kills

1170
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,720
numerous coyotes every year. And I asked

1171
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,160
him if it's made a difference. He goes,

1172
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,160
"No, he can't keep his cattle there. He

1173
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,920
has to keep them in Gordon. They've

1174
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,680
killed every cat he's dropped in the

1175
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,079
last seven years." So, this is all

1176
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,880
great, but before you do this, I can't I

1177
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,359
called and said, "How do we can we call

1178
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:54,960
them if they're on our property?" I have

1179
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,720
a kid with special needs. She now

1180
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:57,680
understands the difference between

1181
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,960
coyotes and dogs, but when we moved

1182
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,800
here, we didn't. That was going to be a

1183
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,079
problem for the coyote.

1184
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:02,630
>> Okay.

1185
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:02,640
» Okay.

1186
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,230
>> So, I just need you guys to understand

1187
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:04,240
» So, I just need you guys to understand

1188
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,160
there's not 10 coyotes here. There's

1189
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,680
probably 30 or 40 living in that

1190
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,480
spillway.

1191
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,990
>> Okay. Thank you, sir.

1192
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:10,000
» Okay. Thank you, sir.

1193
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:10,550
>> Thank you.

1194
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:10,560
» Thank you.

1195
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,910
>> Thank you.

1196
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:11,920
» Thank you.

1197
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,270
>> Do you want me to touch on that? I think

1198
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:13,280
» Do you want me to touch on that? I think

1199
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,950
>> Yeah. How do we deal with that? Yeah,

1200
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:14,960
» Yeah. How do we deal with that? Yeah,

1201
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,309
>> kind I'm going to touch on it with deer

1202
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:16,319
» kind I'm going to touch on it with deer

1203
00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:18,000
first because it kind of correlates the

1204
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,319
same way. Um, so the reason that urban

1205
00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:22,400
deer don't move when they're being fed

1206
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,760
is because they don't have to. It's like

1207
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,920
a kid with a candy store. Um, if they

1208
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,760
have unlimited access to candy corn,

1209
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,960
they never once are going to touch their

1210
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,119
broccoli, if that makes sense. So,

1211
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:32,880
you're you're giving them a food source

1212
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,640
without them having to move to look for

1213
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,560
it like they normally do. Coyotes are

1214
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,200
the same way. So, you have a a large

1215
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,200
deer population and therefore you have a

1216
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,400
large coyote population. Um, if you can

1217
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,319
thin your deer, if you if you make your

1218
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:48,160
deer disperse, the coyotes should

1219
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,160
follow. That's not saying they will, but

1220
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,240
they should. Um, and again, I kind of

1221
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,680
touched on it a little bit. They get

1222
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,839
indirectly fed a lot in city situations

1223
00:46:55,839 --> 00:46:57,520
when people are feeding raccoons or

1224
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,760
feral cats or stuff like that. They tend

1225
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,440
to also utilize the same food sources.

1226
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,670
>> Okay. Anybody have any questions for

1227
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:05,680
» Okay. Anybody have any questions for

1228
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,000
her?

1229
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,829
>> Yeah, you real quick. You had a

1230
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:07,839
» Yeah, you real quick. You had a

1231
00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:09,599
statement about unintentionally feeding

1232
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:13,680
and I'm do we just not go with lovely

1233
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,280
plants in our front yard for this time

1234
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,200
period or what are some recommendations

1235
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,839
you could have for um keeping that

1236
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:21,359
unintentional feeding down as well

1237
00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:21,680
please?

1238
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,109
>> So when we talk about unintentional

1239
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:23,119
» So when we talk about unintentional

1240
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:25,280
feeding it's usually like someone that

1241
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,240
puts out a a three pounds of cat food

1242
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:30,560
for the 87 feral cats they like to feed

1243
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,319
in their front yard. That's more what we

1244
00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:34,160
refer to. And when in terms of an

1245
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,400
unintentional feeding, um, you're trying

1246
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,160
to feed other things. When it comes to

1247
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,720
ornamental plants, um, there's a lot of

1248
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,160
publications out there for Texas

1249
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,079
specifically about like deer resistant

1250
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:46,000
plants. Your deer are desperate enough,

1251
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,359
they're going to eat those plants cuz

1252
00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:49,040
they already know that you landscape,

1253
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,720
they're going to eat those cuz it's easy

1254
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:52,400
picking. Same way, they have a food

1255
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,599
source. They're not going to move for

1256
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:56,400
it. Why not? Um, we can provide you

1257
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,400
those. Again, it's hard when you already

1258
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,400
have the problem to then landscape with

1259
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,240
deer resistant plants cuz they are

1260
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:03,839
probably going to eat them. But

1261
00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:06,079
unintentional feeding is more like feral

1262
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:08,880
cats, raccoons, uh leaving out pounds

1263
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,119
and pounds of corn, you know, just

1264
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:13,839
trying to have unnatural attractants

1265
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:15,359
pretty much.

1266
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:18,470
>> So, I was told that Hudson Oaks uh has

1267
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:18,480
» So, I was told that Hudson Oaks uh has

1268
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,119
had an ordinance for years managing

1269
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,680
their deer population. So, that might be

1270
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,119
something we need to think about.

1271
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:28,800
there. I haven't worked with Hudson Oaks

1272
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,440
yet. I took over this position um about

1273
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,599
a year and a half ago. Uh since then,

1274
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:35,760
I've been to six city council meetings

1275
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,040
and four HOA meetings. Um and you know,

1276
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,599
we we pretty much go and we talk and we

1277
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:43,200
provide the knowledge that we have from

1278
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,200
ones that we've worked with in the past.

1279
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,440
Um we've had two that were really

1280
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,920
successful that they they implemented a

1281
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,480
feeding ban, they enforced it. um they

1282
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,040
did do TTP and it helped them quite a

1283
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,240
bit, but it worked for their

1284
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:58,400
circumstances. Um and they've they've

1285
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,640
had good success. That's there's not

1286
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,480
without caveats. Everything kind of has

1287
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,640
that. When you have, you know, people

1288
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,920
that want to look at deer in their front

1289
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,040
yard, you're just going to have them a

1290
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,559
little less. They're not going to leave.

1291
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:09,680
You're probably never going to get rid

1292
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,040
of them, especially when we're still

1293
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,440
surrounded by enough connected uh

1294
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,760
habitat. But um you know, it's just

1295
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,680
you try your best. You try your best and

1296
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,359
what works for one city hopefully can

1297
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:22,880
work for another, but there's really not

1298
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,040
onesizefits-all for this.

1299
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,109
>> Okay, Katie, thank you very much.

1300
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:27,119
» Okay, Katie, thank you very much.

1301
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:27,750
>> Thank you.

1302
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:27,760
» Thank you.

1303
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,190
>> I have I have a question.

1304
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:29,200
» I have I have a question.

1305
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:29,750
>> Okay.

1306
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:29,760
» Okay.

1307
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,510
>> We uh live on Mr. Drive and any day we

1308
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:33,520
» We uh live on Mr. Drive and any day we

1309
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,520
have 60 plus

1310
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,589
>> here and they're just right on the other

1311
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:37,599
» here and they're just right on the other

1312
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:39,440
side of my driveway. We've got a lot of

1313
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,359
open land out there. They sleep up there

1314
00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:43,440
during the day, during the night. They

1315
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,200
roam all around through there. We've

1316
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,200
taken videos of them to show our

1317
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,520
friends. I know if I want to know what

1318
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:50,240
they are.

1319
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,230
>> And and and well, some of them even try

1320
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:52,240
» And and and well, some of them even try

1321
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:53,839
to come up and get in the garage. We

1322
00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:56,160
have the garage.

1323
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Um

1324
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,440
several of my friends at church want to

1325
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,520
lease my driveway,

1326
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,720
but you know, she won't let them.

1327
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:07,280
But [laughter]

1328
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,920
how do we get that many of them to go

1329
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,040
away? I mean they were there a barard

1330
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,280
and then there's another herd of about

1331
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,720
25 right across the street and there's

1332
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:23,119
probably a dozen or more.

1333
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:24,710
>> Can I talk facing this way or do I need

1334
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:24,720
» Can I talk facing this way or do I need

1335
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:26,160
to talk facing you? Does it matter?

1336
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:26,549
>> As long

1337
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:26,559
» As long

1338
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:27,829
>> into the speaker. Yeah.

1339
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:27,839
» into the speaker. Yeah.

1340
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:29,349
>> Let me yell into this microphone really

1341
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:29,359
» Let me yell into this microphone really

1342
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:29,920
quick. Right.

1343
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,910
>> Um so I actually live in town funny

1344
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:31,920
» Um so I actually live in town funny

1345
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,920
enough. I live here. I'm a I'm a

1346
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,400
resident of Willow Park. Um, so the

1347
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,880
places that we've seen that implement a

1348
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,119
feeding ban, if they have two, let's

1349
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:42,720
just say if they have two or three

1350
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,960
people that aren't willing to follow

1351
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,720
through with it, the pro the problem

1352
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:48,240
will not solve itself.

1353
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,990
>> Um, so we're kind of [clears throat] at

1354
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:50,000
» Um, so we're kind of [clears throat] at

1355
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,160
the point where we're past, okay, it's a

1356
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,920
problem. You know, there's enough here.

1357
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,240
You're having them in your yard. Um, it

1358
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:58,319
takes time. It takes time. So if you

1359
00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:00,240
stop feeding, there's also you can haze

1360
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,800
them again when you get to this point.

1361
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,480
Sometimes it'll work, sometimes it'll

1362
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:05,920
not. you can blow an air horn in your

1363
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,599
front yard, they might statter. They

1364
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:08,800
might have been here so long that

1365
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,160
they're just used to it and it won't

1366
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,160
bother them. Um, so it's pretty much

1367
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,079
trying to find what works. We always

1368
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:15,920
usually start with a feeding band. We

1369
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,839
suggest it. It's it's one of the easiest

1370
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:19,359
things that you can do because they're

1371
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:21,040
going to be hungry. They're going to be

1372
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,240
hungry and um I have the numbers. I They

1373
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,640
deer eat about 2,000 lbs of food every

1374
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,800
year. We don't have that to support

1375
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,359
them. um they're being supported by

1376
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:33,920
landscaping, by corn stuff drawing them

1377
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,000
into the area. For them to get that,

1378
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,400
they're going to have to go. Um and

1379
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,400
again, it takes it might you might not

1380
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,160
see it for a couple years, but they will

1381
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,599
go.

1382
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:45,030
>> Okay. Thank you, Kaylee. Yes,

1383
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:45,040
» Okay. Thank you, Kaylee. Yes,

1384
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,240
absolutely. Thank you.

1385
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,790
>> Okay. Next, we're going to go um number

1386
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:48,800
» Okay. Next, we're going to go um number

1387
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,309
five.

1388
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:54,640
» Hold on. Sorry, I jumped. Whoopsie. You

1389
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,800
want to go to four first? Let's do that.

1390
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,440
Okay. So, the discussion on wastewater

1391
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,960
treatment. Chase, you're going to do

1392
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:01,520
that?

1393
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,309
>> Yes, ma'am.

1394
00:52:02,309 --> 00:52:02,319
» Yes, ma'am.

1395
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:05,990
>> All right.

1396
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,359
» Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um, I

1397
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:12,960
set a schedule on in front of every on

1398
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,400
y'all's desk uh yesterday. Um, we are at

1399
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,599
about 94 to 95% completion. Um

1400
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:23,680
everything is there's a few touch-up

1401
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,599
things on chemical feeders and things

1402
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:28,480
that are still being installed. Uh the

1403
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,160
air diffusers and things have been

1404
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,880
installed. So we are basically at the

1405
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,760
point now that we have roughly about 2

1406
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,200
months of testing. So it's startup

1407
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,760
putting treated some treated water in

1408
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,119
there, testing blowers and testing

1409
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:49,040
mixers and certain things like that. Um,

1410
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,319
and like I said, we're looking at

1411
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:52,400
roughly close to two months or a little

1412
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,520
bit shy of two months on basically

1413
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,960
starting up and testing all of the

1414
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,880
actual equipment and then conjunction

1415
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,040
with the computer, the SCADA system,

1416
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,839
manually running everything.

1417
00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:06,400
So, that's perfect. Fairly short and

1418
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,920
sweet.

1419
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,349
>> So, I I got a call today. Can you see

1420
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:11,359
» So, I I got a call today. Can you see

1421
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:14,160
who that is and have them lower, please?

1422
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,319
Their voice. I'm sorry it's distracting

1423
00:53:16,319 --> 00:53:18,319
me.

1424
00:53:18,319 --> 00:53:20,000
Who is that?

1425
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,390
>> I believe the biologist.

1426
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:22,400
» I believe the biologist.

1427
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,390
>> Okay. She can dare outside would be

1428
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:24,400
» Okay. She can dare outside would be

1429
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,040
really good. Okay. So, I did get a call

1430
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,839
from Pastor Clark Boer today from Willow

1431
00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:31,760
Park Baptist. This is I'm going to guess

1432
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,400
his third time he's called me on this

1433
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,680
issue. Um, and he was talking about the

1434
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,800
wastewater that's on across the street

1435
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,440
and that he said it it smells, right? So

1436
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,839
he said it smells and the city was

1437
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:52,960
supposed to move it June 2025

1438
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,119
and so he needs that move so he can sell

1439
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:56,800
the property. So like I said it's like

1440
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,559
the third time he's called me on this.

1441
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:01,200
So he wanted me to bring it up cuz I

1442
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,040
someone must have told him or he saw it

1443
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,119
was on the agenda and he asked me are

1444
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:07,440
y'all talking about that? Yes, Chase is

1445
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,079
talk to us.

1446
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,230
>> We are in the process of doing that. We

1447
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:10,240
» We are in the process of doing that. We

1448
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,559
have the engineering drawings for the

1449
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:15,119
decon decommission of the old plant and

1450
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,680
we actually did have the bid opening

1451
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,880
today. So we're the engineer is still in

1452
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,079
review vetting bid openings and checking

1453
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:25,760
all the numbers on the bids to make sure

1454
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,920
everything is good on that end. But we

1455
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,599
are in the process of moving forward

1456
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:31,680
with the decommission of the plant.

1457
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,390
>> So maybe in another month or so I can

1458
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:34,400
» So maybe in another month or so I can

1459
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,319
talk to him about that that it's really

1460
00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:38,480
going to happen. Uh yeah, I mean

1461
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,160
obviously like I said we had the bid

1462
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,160
opening. Once that gets vetted, it has

1463
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,720
to come to council to approve the bidder

1464
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:46,800
for the project itself. And then once

1465
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,880
that happens, we will have a far better

1466
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,319
timeline of where we're sitting.

1467
00:54:50,319 --> 00:54:51,670
>> And we've got to have the new plant up

1468
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:51,680
» And we've got to have the new plant up

1469
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,000
and running first before we get

1470
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,190
>> Yes, there's there's going to be a

1471
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:55,200
» Yes, there's there's going to be a

1472
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,920
cushion between startup of the new

1473
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,829
>> decommission of the old, but we are in

1474
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:59,839
» decommission of the old, but we are in

1475
00:54:59,839 --> 00:55:02,079
the process of trying to line everything

1476
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:04,319
out to where it's day to day, not week

1477
00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:07,200
to week and waiting. So, we're preparing

1478
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,880
for all avenues on that.

1479
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,349
>> And startup with the new one is is it

1480
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:11,359
» And startup with the new one is is it

1481
00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:12,400
two months out or

1482
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,349
>> we're looking at uh well the I mean the

1483
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:15,359
» we're looking at uh well the I mean the

1484
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:18,400
startup is going to be u starting up

1485
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,280
sometime next month but there is a lot

1486
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,960
of troubleshooting and testing because

1487
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,359
this this isn't just a manually ran

1488
00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:27,920
plant like we're used to now. There's a

1489
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,720
lot of u electrical components like

1490
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:32,960
SCADA. So, it's going to be a lot of

1491
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,400
troubleshooting, making sure everything

1492
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,359
is properly functioning before we just

1493
00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:39,440
abandon the old plant and then we're,

1494
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,960
you know, in an issue we can't get out

1495
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,520
of.

1496
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,750
>> So, how long does it take, cuz you know

1497
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:43,760
» So, how long does it take, cuz you know

1498
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,000
that, I'm sure. How long does it take to

1499
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,680
take the old one down?

1500
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,430
>> Uh, that I have not received the

1501
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:49,440
» Uh, that I have not received the

1502
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,599
schedule for the for the decommission

1503
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:52,880
yet. And once

1504
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,190
>> once we pick a contractor for that, then

1505
00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:55,200
» once we pick a contractor for that, then

1506
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,520
they'll be able to provide one for us

1507
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,589
>> and the the contract days will be set.

1508
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:59,599
» and the the contract days will be set.

1509
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,359
I'm not aware of those yet.

1510
00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:03,109
>> So, this might be on the schedule next

1511
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:03,119
» So, this might be on the schedule next

1512
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:05,040
month again maybe.

1513
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:05,990
>> Possibly.

1514
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:06,000
» Possibly.

1515
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,030
>> Yeah, that was going to be my question.

1516
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:07,040
» Yeah, that was going to be my question.

1517
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,480
Do you think the bids will be available

1518
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,079
by first meeting in August or

1519
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:12,710
>> days out?

1520
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:12,720
» days out?

1521
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:14,309
>> Possibly. Yes. I can't speak for our

1522
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:14,319
» Possibly. Yes. I can't speak for our

1523
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:15,839
engineering firm, but they're usually

1524
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:17,680
pretty quick on the turnaround for that.

1525
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,069
>> Okay.

1526
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:18,079
» Okay.

1527
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:20,150
>> Okay. Any other discussion?

1528
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:20,160
» Okay. Any other discussion?

1529
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,589
>> And we're going to be looking to

1530
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:21,599
» And we're going to be looking to

1531
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:24,079
potentially move that equipment to our

1532
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:26,240
facility we have that will be opening up

1533
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:27,440
since we have the

1534
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,549
>> Yes. there.

1535
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:28,559
» Yes. there.

1536
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:30,630
>> Yeah. Once the once the construction has

1537
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:30,640
» Yeah. Once the once the construction has

1538
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,400
gotten to a certain point with site work

1539
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,720
and things, it's going to clear space on

1540
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:36,960
the new location to store the old

1541
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,599
package plant. Yes.

1542
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:41,510
>> Okay. Thank you, Chase. Appreciate it.

1543
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:41,520
» Okay. Thank you, Chase. Appreciate it.

1544
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,710
>> Thanks, Chase.

1545
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:42,720
» Thanks, Chase.

1546
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,109
>> Okay, so number five, I think we've seen

1547
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:45,119
» Okay, so number five, I think we've seen

1548
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:46,799
him before. Jean, you want to talk on

1549
00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:47,920
number five?

1550
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,309
>> Well, I told you could pull this. I

1551
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:50,319
» Well, I told you could pull this. I

1552
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:52,079
already made a comment about it, but I

1553
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:53,760
could repeat it if somebody didn't hear

1554
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,559
me the first time.

1555
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:56,230
>> I think we recorded it. We're good.

1556
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:56,240
» I think we recorded it. We're good.

1557
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,640
Thank you very much. Okay, moving on.

1558
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,799
Okay, item five, discussion and action

1559
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:03,040
consider possible subdivision

1560
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,240
regulations in the ETJ

1561
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,720
of Willow Park as it relates to data

1562
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:11,599
centers. And I think Eric put this on

1563
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:14,319
and Eric wanted to talk about this

1564
00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:14,720
again.

1565
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:18,069
>> Yeah, absolutely. Um, still working with

1566
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:18,079
» Yeah, absolutely. Um, still working with

1567
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:21,040
our legal team to create something that

1568
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,040
we feel confident in to bring before

1569
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,599
council. These things take time. We're

1570
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:29,280
still working through it. So my um I'd

1571
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,880
like to table it to the next meeting. I

1572
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,040
think we should have it ready to go by

1573
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,599
then.

1574
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:37,910
>> Okay. So you've been talking to our

1575
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:37,920
» Okay. So you've been talking to our

1576
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,839
attorneys

1577
00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:44,240
about this issue. Um

1578
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,240
so you want to bring it back again?

1579
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,319
You're tableabling it for now?

1580
00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:49,990
>> Yes, ma'am. Uh table [clears throat] it

1581
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:50,000
» Yes, ma'am. Uh table [clears throat] it

1582
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,359
to the next meeting.

1583
00:57:53,359 --> 00:57:54,470
>> Okay. Okay. If we're going to table

1584
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:54,480
» Okay. Okay. If we're going to table

1585
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,520
that, is there a motion to table the

1586
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,359
item? You want to make a motion to do

1587
00:57:59,359 --> 00:57:59,760
that?

1588
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,510
>> I'll make a motion to table number five

1589
00:58:01,510 --> 00:58:01,520
» I'll make a motion to table number five

1590
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,480
to the next meeting.

1591
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,829
>> Do we have a second?

1592
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:03,839
» Do we have a second?

1593
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:04,470
>> Second.

1594
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:04,480
» Second.

1595
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:09,750
>> All in favor? There you go. Okay.

1596
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,880
All right. And we have number six, the

1597
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,880
Jean. You busy man.

1598
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,150
>> I back again.

1599
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:16,160
» I back again.

1600
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,750
>> I asked for this one to be removed. I

1601
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:17,760
» I asked for this one to be removed. I

1602
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,880
got the information that I needed.

1603
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,030
>> Uh I don't want it removed. I have

1604
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:23,040
» Uh I don't want it removed. I have

1605
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,640
information that's here.

1606
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,710
>> My agenda item

1607
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:26,720
» My agenda item

1608
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,400
asked for it to be removed.

1609
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,589
>> You ask who?

1610
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:29,599
» You ask who?

1611
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:31,270
>> Our attorney and staff.

1612
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:31,280
» Our attorney and staff.

1613
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:31,910
>> Okay.

1614
00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:31,920
» Okay.

1615
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:32,630
>> Don't make the

1616
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:32,640
» Don't make the

1617
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,030
>> I run the meeting so I should know about

1618
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:35,040
» I run the meeting so I should know about

1619
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,040
that. Did I get an email and I missed

1620
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,319
it?

1621
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:39,510
>> I don't know. I asked.

1622
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:39,520
» I don't know. I asked.

1623
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,750
>> Okay.

1624
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:41,760
» Okay.

1625
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,230
>> So, we need

1626
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:42,240
» So, we need

1627
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,510
>> No, he doesn't care. Okay.

1628
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:43,520
» No, he doesn't care. Okay.

1629
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,750
>> We need a motion to table it.

1630
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:45,760
» We need a motion to table it.

1631
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,750
>> I'll make a motion to table agenda item

1632
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:47,760
» I'll make a motion to table agenda item

1633
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,040
number six.

1634
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:49,910
>> Second.

1635
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:49,920
» Second.

1636
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,789
>> All in favor? Okay. I'll do it next time

1637
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:52,799
» All in favor? Okay. I'll do it next time

1638
00:58:52,799 --> 00:58:54,559
myself then. Thank you very much.

1639
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:57,670
>> I did sign up to speak to an agenda item

1640
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:57,680
» I did sign up to speak to an agenda item

1641
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,160
posted.

1642
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:05,349
>> Okay.

1643
00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:10,470
» I'm running the meeting. Go ahead.

1644
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,040
» Okay. So, I'm Jean Martin. I'm still at

1645
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,160
700 Kingsgate Road. Um, the employment

1646
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,240
agreement for the Walpart city manager

1647
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,079
contains a sentence that begins with,

1648
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:23,119
and I quote, "Employee shall serve as

1649
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:25,280
the chief administrative and executive

1650
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,920
officer of the city."

1651
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,079
Quote,

1652
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:32,400
in local government code chapter 22, we

1653
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,440
find section 22.042

1654
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,839
entitled powers and duties of the mayor.

1655
00:59:39,839 --> 00:59:43,040
First uh sub bullet a

1656
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,520
the mayor is the chief executive officer

1657
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,559
of the municipality.

1658
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:50,319
This employment agreement appears to be

1659
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:54,079
in direct conflict with state law.

1660
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:55,839
Actions by the city council throughout

1661
00:59:55,839 --> 00:59:58,079
the past 14 months suggest that the

1662
00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:01,200
designation in this employment agreement

1663
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,359
and the identical text in the prior

1664
01:00:03,359 --> 01:00:06,079
employment agreement going back to at

1665
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:08,480
least 2022

1666
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,119
confirm it is and has been the intent of

1667
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:14,799
the city council to run will park

1668
01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:18,480
as a city manager form of government.

1669
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,319
The for this form of government is

1670
01:00:20,319 --> 01:00:21,920
defined

1671
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,960
and authorized by Texas local government

1672
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,599
code chapter 25.

1673
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:31,920
A possible issue arises by the manner in

1674
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,839
which the city council has implemented

1675
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:36,079
this policy.

1676
01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:38,799
We find in local government code chapter

1677
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:42,880
25 section 25.021 021 adoption of city

1678
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,920
manager form of government.

1679
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,480
The municipality

1680
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,880
by first holding an election on the

1681
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,000
question may adopt the city manager form

1682
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,480
of government.

1683
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,280
This required election is actually no

1684
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,839
different from the requirement to have

1685
01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:04,400
an election to adopt a home rule

1686
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,880
charter.

1687
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,040
Far from entertaining an election on the

1688
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,359
subject, our council adopted the policy

1689
01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:17,270
by approving an employment contract.

1690
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,319
It's related to ordinance 802 that was

1691
01:01:20,319 --> 01:01:22,640
passed in 2019

1692
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:27,990
that established governance policy.

1693
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,240
And on that note, that particular

1694
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,640
ordinance only took questions from

1695
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,760
citizens last year,

1696
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,079
six years to get published as part of

1697
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:40,400
the municipal code that the citizens

1698
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,160
knew about.

1699
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,000
Thank you for your attention.

1700
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:49,829
>> Thank you. [applause]

1701
01:01:49,839 --> 01:01:53,599
» Okay. Number seven is to discuss action

1702
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:55,920
to address the mayor being abruptly

1703
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,359
removed from the agenda setting process.

1704
01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:02,400
I put this one on. So I request this

1705
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,400
item because as soon as Conniey's

1706
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,640
contract was approved by the council, I

1707
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,640
stopped receiving the team's meeting

1708
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,920
invitation to coordinate finalizing the

1709
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,240
agendas with staff. Treating me this way

1710
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,720
is insubordination and it goes against

1711
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,440
my statutory authority.

1712
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,079
Under the local government code, chapter

1713
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:25,359
22, I received a legal opinion related

1714
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:27,920
to Tony's contract and my involvement in

1715
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,880
the agenda setting process. I requested

1716
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,440
to have the document posted online and

1717
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,520
there are extra copies available to the

1718
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,640
citizens and attendance over the desk

1719
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,640
where agendas are located. I don't think

1720
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,960
I saw those. Did we do that, Dena? Okay,

1721
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,839
she did not do that. So, the chief

1722
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:48,319
executive and recommending measures

1723
01:02:48,319 --> 01:02:51,599
22.042 042 as the chief executive

1724
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:54,079
officer. The mayor is tasked with

1725
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:57,599
actively ensuring laws are carried out

1726
01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:59,839
and has the duty to recommend that is

1727
01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:02,640
the duty to recommend to the governing

1728
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,119
body any measures or information related

1729
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:08,960
to improving the finances, health,

1730
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,200
security and good government of the

1731
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,240
municipality. My input on city council

1732
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,760
meetings agendas is vital to ensure we

1733
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,559
just had we just had a s a sample of

1734
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:23,520
this tonight. What happened? My input on

1735
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,839
the council meeting agendas is vital to

1736
01:03:25,839 --> 01:03:28,480
ensure the items listed or done so in a

1737
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,720
way that informs

1738
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,880
I want to inform the public and making

1739
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,200
sure certain public documents are

1740
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,039
included in the packets is a

1741
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:42,319
responsibility I take seriously. It is

1742
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:45,440
my duty. Suggested motion is to amend

1743
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,400
the ordinance 92625

1744
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,760
to remove the word from the words

1745
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,880
section 1 that changed the city code

1746
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,200
1.03.035

1747
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,079
addressing meetings and agenda.

1748
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:03,839
Do I have a motion to fix this issue

1749
01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:06,000
from our city council?

1750
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,270
>> Mayor, did you say your duty was to

1751
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:09,280
» Mayor, did you say your duty was to

1752
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,599
inform the public? I'm just asking a

1753
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:12,400
question,

1754
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,029
>> right?

1755
01:04:13,029 --> 01:04:13,039
» right?

1756
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:16,710
>> Okay. So, under section 22.042,

1757
01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:16,720
» Okay. So, under section 22.042,

1758
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,200
power and duties of the mayor, C says

1759
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,680
the mayor shall give to the governing

1760
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,200
body, which is city council, any

1761
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,520
information, and shall recommend to the

1762
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,280
governing body any measure that relates

1763
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,960
to improving finances, please, health,

1764
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,799
security, cleanliness, [clears throat]

1765
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:35,599
ornament, or good government of the

1766
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:37,359
municipality.

1767
01:04:37,359 --> 01:04:39,760
Are you keeping the city council

1768
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,029
informed?

1769
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:44,640
» I think that's what I think that's what

1770
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,880
these meetings are about. Is there a

1771
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,640
specific subject that you have a problem

1772
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,319
that you want to talk about in front of

1773
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:51,119
citizens?

1774
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:53,190
>> No, I'm I'm asking you a question. Are

1775
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:53,200
» No, I'm I'm asking you a question. Are

1776
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,520
you keeping the city council informed?

1777
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,430
>> I do. I send emails and I ask Dena to

1778
01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:57,440
» I do. I send emails and I ask Dena to

1779
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,599
forward them to you. And I've seen she

1780
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:01,520
has included me on the emails that are

1781
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,079
forwarded to you. So, yes, that answer

1782
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:06,559
is yes, sir. I sure am. So,

1783
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:08,870
>> and I see those going to you. Yes.

1784
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:08,880
» and I see those going to you. Yes.

1785
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,950
>> So, when you're asking to get on this

1786
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:10,960
» So, when you're asking to get on this

1787
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,520
team's meeting with our attorneys, are

1788
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,440
you forwarding that information on to

1789
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,280
the city council? Because I have yet to

1790
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,319
receive anything.

1791
01:05:18,319 --> 01:05:20,710
>> It doesn't come from me. It come It was

1792
01:05:20,710 --> 01:05:20,720
» It doesn't come from me. It come It was

1793
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,079
coming from our attorneys and we

1794
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:26,480
actually had meetings before this

1795
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,960
contract happened. We had meetings and

1796
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,720
it was different attorneys. We have a

1797
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,400
lot of attorneys. We have like six of

1798
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,000
them we work with. that one of the

1799
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,079
attorneys would and Ashlin mainly the

1800
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:40,960
assistant would put it on the schedule

1801
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,440
and the calendar and at that point in

1802
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,200
time it did not come from me. I never

1803
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,960
did a teams myself. I was sent on my

1804
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,680
calendar to do a teams to discuss the

1805
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,880
agenda. That's what that what was

1806
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,960
happening and now I'm totally taken out

1807
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,920
of it and items are moving back and

1808
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,559
forth and things are being rewarded and

1809
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:04,799
I'm not being informed.

1810
01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:08,230
>> So, one follow-up question to that is

1811
01:06:08,230 --> 01:06:08,240
» So, one follow-up question to that is

1812
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,880
who was in attendance in those meetings?

1813
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,760
Was it just you and legal counsel or who

1814
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,359
else was on there?

1815
01:06:15,359 --> 01:06:18,470
>> No, legal counsel, Dena,

1816
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:18,480
» No, legal counsel, Dena,

1817
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,480
and most of the time Tony would be on

1818
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,640
there.

1819
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:23,200
Okay.

1820
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,430
>> I used to be on that list as well. I

1821
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:25,440
» I used to be on that list as well. I

1822
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,640
have not received any teams meetings in

1823
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,400
the past probably month and a half

1824
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,240
either. My understanding was that it was

1825
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,760
more a like you request your items. The

1826
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,240
people that request it put it on there.

1827
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,559
There's really not a need unless there

1828
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:42,960
is a legal issue as how something is

1829
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,039
worded to have an hour plus meeting each

1830
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:50,240
time an agenda is set. like I'm not

1831
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,559
there to like if you have an item, I'm

1832
01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:54,160
not there to talk you in or out of it.

1833
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,240
It's your item and vice versa. And so

1834
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,480
the legal team's review to my

1835
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,319
understanding, and please correct me if

1836
01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:02,400
I'm wrong, but it's just to make sure

1837
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,319
that anything we place on the agenda is

1838
01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:06,480
legally done and there's not any

1839
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,400
potential violation there. It's not a

1840
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,440
the source material is is ours to

1841
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,200
decide. The legal team is just to decide

1842
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,000
if what we're going through is legal and

1843
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,240
worded correctly and all of that. So I

1844
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,960
haven't been on any teams meetings as we

1845
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,280
used to be on those together but at this

1846
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,520
point it's been the last

1847
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,349
>> month or two that we I don't think we've

1848
01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:27,359
» month or two that we I don't think we've

1849
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:27,520
had

1850
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,470
>> any I think it was very nice. It was

1851
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:30,480
» any I think it was very nice. It was

1852
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,039
very professional

1853
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:35,510
>> to have a meeting to discuss that with

1854
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:35,520
» to have a meeting to discuss that with

1855
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:36,799
the secretary and

1856
01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:38,950
>> may I say something to possibly clear

1857
01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:38,960
» may I say something to possibly clear

1858
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,640
some of this up. There was a discussion

1859
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,200
in executive session, but it was me that

1860
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,799
requested that back in February

1861
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:48,000
regarding my health and this this was

1862
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,039
discussed. Can I talk about that or do I

1863
01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:51,680
need to not?

1864
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:52,950
>> Well, you don't have to talk about what

1865
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:52,960
» Well, you don't have to talk about what

1866
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,720
happened in executive session, but you

1867
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,880
can talk about whatever the concern is

1868
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,319
that apparently is still

1869
01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:01,109
>> that brought this to the change that we

1870
01:08:01,109 --> 01:08:01,119
» that brought this to the change that we

1871
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:02,640
are at now.

1872
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:03,109
>> That's fine.

1873
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:03,119
» That's fine.

1874
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:07,029
>> Okay. Um, if you all remember the city

1875
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:07,039
» Okay. Um, if you all remember the city

1876
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:09,280
council meeting on February 10th, I was

1877
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,359
I stepped out of the meeting and I ended

1878
01:08:11,359 --> 01:08:13,599
up in the hospital with a potential

1879
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,039
heart attack.

1880
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:17,990
>> At that time, I was told lots of

1881
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:18,000
» At that time, I was told lots of

1882
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,759
different things and some scary stuff

1883
01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:22,000
that might have happened to me. So, the

1884
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,080
very next meeting, I asked Tony to have

1885
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,679
an executive session with the city

1886
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:28,640
council to discuss the stress that was

1887
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,960
happening in this office regarding

1888
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,920
setting our agendas. It was going back

1889
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,080
and forth and back and forth all the way

1890
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,279
up till 5 or 6:00 on the day that we

1891
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:41,520
were supposed to post the agenda.

1892
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,719
Particularly on July 3rd of last year,

1893
01:08:44,719 --> 01:08:47,359
my husband was in the hospital pass

1894
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:51,600
potentially passing away on July 3rd and

1895
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:52,880
I [clears throat] wanted to leave here

1896
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,520
at noon. That was the day that we were

1897
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,600
going to post the agenda. It was a

1898
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,839
holiday weekend and I was informed. I

1899
01:09:01,839 --> 01:09:03,679
started getting information from the

1900
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:06,640
from the mayor that no, you can't do

1901
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,400
that. You need to send this to me. We've

1902
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:09,920
got to make these changes. And that

1903
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,719
lasted till 5:30 before I could leave

1904
01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:15,359
this building to go be with my husband.

1905
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:18,960
So, it was due to the stress. And during

1906
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,719
that discussion, we talked about the

1907
01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:23,440
fees for the city attorneys because

1908
01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:25,920
there was discussion about how much

1909
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,159
money we were doing at that time.

1910
01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:35,279
And it was decided as we came out that I

1911
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:38,159
think a a comment was made by Mayor Prom

1912
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:41,199
Croml to possibly limit the items that

1913
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:43,839
we have on the agenda to help alleviate

1914
01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:46,560
some of the stress. And it was even said

1915
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,560
by Mayor Palmer, well maybe we need to

1916
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,319
pull back some of the stuff that we do

1917
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:53,040
with the attorneys because Ashlin, the

1918
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,120
assistant, she parallegal, she's

1919
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,000
awesome. She was actually typing up the

1920
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,800
agendas and I made the comment if she's

1921
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,360
doing it then why do you need me?

1922
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:08,870
>> I have done this job for 43 years. If so

1923
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:08,880
» I have done this job for 43 years. If so

1924
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,880
that that is why things are the way they

1925
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,920
are now. We're not trying to disqualify

1926
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,000
the mayor or the mayor pro Tim in the

1927
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,000
process. You're welcome to join us.

1928
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,600
You're welcome to call us and ask

1929
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,679
questions. Just don't belittle us and

1930
01:10:21,679 --> 01:10:23,360
don't beat us up because we put

1931
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,040
something or change something you don't

1932
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,199
like. I hope no one does that.

1933
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:29,110
>> Well, you too, mayor.

1934
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:29,120
» Well, you too, mayor.

1935
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,030
>> I think Dena, I understand and you

1936
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:33,040
» I think Dena, I understand and you

1937
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,520
explained your health issues and I I

1938
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,520
sympathize with that and I know we

1939
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,270
>> I didn't I didn't bring this up for

1940
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:39,280
» I didn't I didn't bring this up for

1941
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,400
sympathy,

1942
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,510
>> but I want you to know that we do. Do

1943
01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:43,520
» but I want you to know that we do. Do

1944
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,840
you have a backup to do your agenda when

1945
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,440
you're gone? I thought

1946
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:48,470
>> No, ma'am. I don't.

1947
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:48,480
» No, ma'am. I don't.

1948
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:49,590
>> You don't have anybody?

1949
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:49,600
» You don't have anybody?

1950
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,590
>> No, ma'am. I do not. I think the point

1951
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:51,600
» No, ma'am. I do not. I think the point

1952
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,280
what Dena is trying to make is is that

1953
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,880
we've set cut offs to to be able to get

1954
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,360
the agenda out as needed and you still

1955
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,440
continually to send information days

1956
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:04,560
after the cut off for agenda items.

1957
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,270
>> I have sat in those meetings as well

1958
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:07,280
» I have sat in those meetings as well

1959
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,030
>> meeting with our attorneys and it's

1960
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:09,040
» meeting with our attorneys and it's

1961
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,920
literally us paying them to tell us

1962
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,199
what's on the agenda.

1963
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:16,310
>> And I told Andy that's ridiculous. We

1964
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:16,320
» And I told Andy that's ridiculous. We

1965
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,320
spend an hour on the phone for him to

1966
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,199
go, item number one is this, item number

1967
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:24,080
two is this, item number three is this.

1968
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,120
It takes an hour. He has an attorney.

1969
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,560
He'll have a secondary attorney and

1970
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,760
he'll have Ashlin.

1971
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:30,070
>> Right.

1972
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:30,080
» Right.

1973
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,510
>> That hour is costing us over $800.

1974
01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:33,520
» That hour is costing us over $800.

1975
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:33,830
>> Yeah.

1976
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:33,840
» Yeah.

1977
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,070
>> To have them on to tell us. But this is

1978
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:36,080
» To have them on to tell us. But this is

1979
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,440
a meeting that you're requesting,

1980
01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:39,750
>> but it was happening three times a week.

1981
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:39,760
» but it was happening three times a week.

1982
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,679
Let's just address me one at a time.

1983
01:11:41,679 --> 01:11:44,149
>> I am. That's what I'm saying. So I told

1984
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:44,159
» I am. That's what I'm saying. So I told

1985
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:44,719
Andy,

1986
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:45,430
>> so Dina,

1987
01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:45,440
» so Dina,

1988
01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:47,590
>> I'm still I'm still speaking one at a

1989
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:47,600
» I'm still I'm still speaking one at a

1990
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,480
time. Go ahead.

1991
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:53,030
>> So I told Andy that we do need to repeal

1992
01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:53,040
» So I told Andy that we do need to repeal

1993
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,400
that back a little bit because it's

1994
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,560
absolutely ridiculous that we have to

1995
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,400
meet with our legal team just to be told

1996
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,440
what's on the agenda. And I and I'm not

1997
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:03,120
going to sit in a meeting just to be

1998
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,480
told what's on the agenda by our

1999
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:06,880
attorneys when we have a secretary and

2000
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,280
we have our city manager here to go over

2001
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,280
those items.

2002
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,390
>> Okay. I think if we review the bills,

2003
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:14,400
» Okay. I think if we review the bills,

2004
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,719
the agenda is very minimal compared to

2005
01:12:16,719 --> 01:12:19,600
all the other $322,000

2006
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:20,080
necessary.

2007
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:20,390
>> Okay.

2008
01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:20,400
» Okay.

2009
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,149
>> Yeah, they are.

2010
01:12:22,149 --> 01:12:22,159
» Yeah, they are.

2011
01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:24,950
>> RC had something

2012
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:24,960
» RC had something

2013
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:25,760
on this.

2014
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,270
>> I was going to say I don't believe it's

2015
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:27,280
» I was going to say I don't believe it's

2016
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,679
an issue of you being abruptly removed

2017
01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:31,520
as the thing says. I believe there was a

2018
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,520
process changed and like if you're

2019
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,040
worried about a team's meeting, I'm not

2020
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,960
on it either. That was something that we

2021
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,600
used to either.

2022
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,360
I think we should reinstate that to not

2023
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,360
have what we just had tonight where I'm

2024
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:46,560
in the meeting, I'm running the meeting

2025
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,320
and then oh yeah, I took that off. But

2026
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:48,719
that's not

2027
01:12:48,719 --> 01:12:50,630
>> I should know that, Nathan. Do you not

2028
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:50,640
» I should know that, Nathan. Do you not

2029
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:51,280
think that

2030
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,870
>> that's that's to me that's something

2031
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:52,880
» that's that's to me that's something

2032
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,199
that happens later. The agenda setting

2033
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:58,640
process was completed post the agenda

2034
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,120
agenda being set. Something changed.

2035
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,120
Something was provided that he needed

2036
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,360
that made the item no longer relevant.

2037
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,280
Those changes will happen. Eric didn't

2038
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,360
have what he needed tonight. We tabled

2039
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:09,679
it.

2040
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:09,990
>> Yeah.

2041
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:10,000
» Yeah.

2042
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,750
>> And so that is the action that you take.

2043
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:11,760
» And so that is the action that you take.

2044
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,480
It's not being removed. Did you know

2045
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:17,040
Eric was going to table his item?

2046
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,350
>> No. I think the difference is that

2047
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:19,360
» No. I think the difference is that

2048
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:19,990
>> he got

2049
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:20,000
» he got

2050
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,910
>> Scott had already talked to everyone

2051
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:21,920
» Scott had already talked to everyone

2052
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,440
else and knew he was going to do it.

2053
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:24,870
>> I got the information that I need and

2054
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:24,880
» I got the information that I need and

2055
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,640
you didn't have that information.

2056
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,470
>> I didn't have that information either.

2057
01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:28,480
» I didn't have that information either.

2058
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:30,080
But when Scott said he had what he

2059
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,800
needed, then we were good. I'm I'm just

2060
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,800
I'm not trying to

2061
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:35,270
>> Mhm.

2062
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:35,280
» Mhm.

2063
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,950
>> I want to just to discuss the abruptly

2064
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:38,960
» I want to just to discuss the abruptly

2065
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,646
removed. In my opinion, there was no

2066
01:13:40,646 --> 01:13:42,320
[clears throat] such abrupt removal. We

2067
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,719
have had a process.

2068
01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:45,910
>> It changed.

2069
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:45,920
» It changed.

2070
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:46,630
>> We did.

2071
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:46,640
» We did.

2072
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,149
>> It changed. You and I are no longer on

2073
01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:48,159
» It changed. You and I are no longer on

2074
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:49,920
these team calls. It is not just you

2075
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,040
being singled out. You

2076
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,390
>> I'm not saying I am.

2077
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:52,400
» I'm not saying I am.

2078
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,910
>> I think it doesn't say the mayor and the

2079
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:53,920
» I think it doesn't say the mayor and the

2080
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,040
mayor pro Tim. And so I I just think

2081
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,840
that it's a mischaracterization of what

2082
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,080
has happened here and it makes it the it

2083
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,480
shines poorly on our city staff. It it

2084
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:06,480
seems like we're cutting you out and

2085
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:10,480
we're not. This is a a process where

2086
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:11,030
>> Thank you.

2087
01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:11,040
» Thank you.

2088
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,350
>> Let me Okay, hold on just a second. We

2089
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:13,360
» Let me Okay, hold on just a second. We

2090
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,199
need one at a time. Do you want to

2091
01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:15,600
finish?

2092
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:16,790
>> I would like to finish real quick.

2093
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:16,800
» I would like to finish real quick.

2094
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:17,430
>> Go ahead.

2095
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:17,440
» Go ahead.

2096
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:20,550
>> I would just say like we have names next

2097
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:20,560
» I would just say like we have names next

2098
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,040
to each one.

2099
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,709
>> Not always, but yes. For the for the

2100
01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:24,719
» Not always, but yes. For the for the

2101
01:14:24,719 --> 01:14:26,400
most part, I'm looking at tonight's and

2102
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,679
with the exclusion of the deer issue.

2103
01:14:29,679 --> 01:14:32,719
Uh, everybody has something next to it.

2104
01:14:32,719 --> 01:14:36,320
Um, we don't we don't change we don't

2105
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,719
ask Eric to change Eric's. We don't ask

2106
01:14:38,719 --> 01:14:40,800
Sean to change Sean's you to change

2107
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,280
yours. Nobody's changed theirs. So,

2108
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,390
>> well, there have been, but go ahead.

2109
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:46,400
» well, there have been, but go ahead.

2110
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,159
Well, if it is, then that's a legal

2111
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:49,679
question, then I'm counting on each

2112
01:14:49,679 --> 01:14:51,840
member at this dis to have discussed it

2113
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,000
if they think there are any legalities.

2114
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,960
And that's fine. But we don't need to

2115
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,110
>> circle the troops and all go over this

2116
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:59,120
» circle the troops and all go over this

2117
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,320
one by one to discuss an item. You can

2118
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:03,760
call the attorney yourself and say,

2119
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,280
"Hey, this is what I'm thinking. Is this

2120
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,080
worded correctly? Is this in violation

2121
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,000
of anything? Can we do this because of

2122
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,480
Texas Open Meeting Acts?" It's not. We

2123
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,560
don't need the city manager, the city

2124
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,400
secretary, one of the city council

2125
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,239
members to jump on there with you to

2126
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:20,640
hear it if there's an issue. I mean, and

2127
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:21,840
like we talked about, you're the one

2128
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,199
that's going to disseminate the

2129
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:24,880
information to all of us if you if there

2130
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,760
is something based on the duties of the

2131
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,480
mayor. Correct. So, we're not we're not

2132
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:32,719
asking for any of this. Nothing is

2133
01:15:32,719 --> 01:15:34,480
abruptly changed. You've not been

2134
01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:36,880
abruptly removed. There's an agenda

2135
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,560
setting process that we try to follow

2136
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,120
and we're not there's there's no point

2137
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,400
in like Scott said having the attorneys

2138
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,880
go over this one by one if you're

2139
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,760
comfortable if you're the sponsoring

2140
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,159
member and you're comfortable with the

2141
01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:54,960
wording then it stands you don't need to

2142
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,000
have a

2143
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,830
>> sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't

2144
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:57,840
» sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't

2145
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,239
mine get changed right they do get

2146
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:00,640
changed

2147
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:01,510
>> who changes them

2148
01:16:01,510 --> 01:16:01,520
» who changes them

2149
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,750
>> well if there's a legal review I will

2150
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:03,760
» well if there's a legal review I will

2151
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,199
change something if It violates

2152
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:09,189
>> when the mayor the mayor requested this

2153
01:16:09,189 --> 01:16:09,199
» when the mayor the mayor requested this

2154
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:12,159
item be changed to say abruptly removed.

2155
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:13,920
She took the language that I had on

2156
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,679
there and wanted it changed to what's on

2157
01:16:15,679 --> 01:16:18,080
there not tonight

2158
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,760
and that's what we did.

2159
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,229
>> Thank you. I appreciate that. And I do

2160
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:22,239
» Thank you. I appreciate that. And I do

2161
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:25,040
think the amount of money we spend on

2162
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,239
the attorneys to do an agenda review so

2163
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:30,400
everyone knows what's happening is a

2164
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,360
good process. It was working very well.

2165
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,600
Um, if Dena needs a backup, I think

2166
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,199
that's something where we need to talk

2167
01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:39,600
to staff about getting back up, but I

2168
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,640
would like to continue the process so we

2169
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:46,000
know exactly what's happening. Marcy,

2170
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,470
>> may I speak first, please?

2171
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:48,480
» may I speak first, please?

2172
01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:49,430
>> Please. Please.

2173
01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:49,440
» Please. Please.

2174
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:51,030
>> Okay, Tony would like to speak. Go

2175
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:51,040
» Okay, Tony would like to speak. Go

2176
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,080
ahead, Tony. Go ahead.

2177
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,229
>> So, I want to clarify what the agenda

2178
01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:56,239
» So, I want to clarify what the agenda

2179
01:16:56,239 --> 01:16:58,239
process is because maybe I'm missing

2180
01:16:58,239 --> 01:16:59,920
something as far as what we're supposed

2181
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:03,760
to be doing. So, every member of council

2182
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,840
and the mayor gets to put items and

2183
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,840
staff get to put items on the agenda

2184
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,760
that are necessary for city business for

2185
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,840
the next meeting.

2186
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,920
I collect that information from staff

2187
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,719
and all of their items that need to go

2188
01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:18,880
with it as far as their brief explaining

2189
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,360
as to what that item is and all of their

2190
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,040
backup data that goes with that, all

2191
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,400
their supporting data that goes with

2192
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,880
that. That is collected and put on the

2193
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,520
agenda by me. That is staff going

2194
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,760
through me. I collect that. I put that

2195
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,960
on the agenda. Council can tell you,

2196
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,520
they can tell me of items they want on

2197
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,960
the agenda as you also tell me or and or

2198
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,880
Dena as to items that you would want on

2199
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,760
the agenda. Those items typically do not

2200
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,080
have supporting information because you

2201
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,000
aren't required to have briefs on them

2202
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,080
to explain what that information is for

2203
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,440
the rest of council or for staff, which

2204
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:58,239
is fine. The point is that is the

2205
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:01,600
process. So there is no I like this, I

2206
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,640
don't like that. If they're ready to go

2207
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,800
before council, if the items from staff

2208
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,719
are ready to be presented to council for

2209
01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:10,640
city business to move forward on an

2210
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,520
item, that item is put on the agenda.

2211
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,960
You forwarded to me a contact that had a

2212
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,360
problem with deer. We communicated with

2213
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,560
him. We communicated with the Texas

2214
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,040
Parks and Wildlife. That item got put on

2215
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,960
the agenda because we had a source that

2216
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,679
could speak about that issue. That is

2217
01:18:29,679 --> 01:18:32,159
how that was done. The other items were

2218
01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:33,920
put on,

2219
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,080
let it be known, none of this is staff

2220
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,880
items. Not the last agenda, not this

2221
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,199
agenda. Nothing has been staff city

2222
01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:42,719
business. That's been on the last two

2223
01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:46,800
agendas. So if council or the mayor has

2224
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,880
issues to put items that you'd like

2225
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,840
discussed on the agenda, those items are

2226
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,400
put on there per your recommendation and

2227
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,320
request. We now have sponsors that are

2228
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,360
added on there as well. So as well as

2229
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,520
executive session, the same process

2230
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,159
except the item the people who are

2231
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:05,679
requesting it are not on there. The

2232
01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:07,679
sponsors are not on there for

2233
01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:09,679
confidentiality purposes of not being

2234
01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:11,199
targeted.

2235
01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:13,679
So unless I'm missing something, that is

2236
01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:16,000
the agenda process. There is nothing

2237
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,000
that is there's nothing drawn out.

2238
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,520
There's nothing magical. There's no

2239
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,840
secrets. There's nothing crazy going on.

2240
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,149
>> I'm not saying that, Tony. I'm just

2241
01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:24,159
» I'm not saying that, Tony. I'm just

2242
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:25,920
trying to explain. I

2243
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,390
>> We had just a second. We had team

2244
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:28,400
» We had just a second. We had team

2245
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,760
meetings. That's what we did. And I got

2246
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,320
the agenda once y'all started putting it

2247
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,360
together. Sent it to me. We had

2248
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,920
meetings. We had with the attorney. you

2249
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,920
were on the phone. Yes. Dena was on the

2250
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,320
phone. We were on the teams and then if

2251
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,199
there were any changes then we I knew on

2252
01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:50,800
the agenda what was happening before it

2253
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,880
got put out on a deadline. All of a

2254
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,600
sudden all of a sudden things were being

2255
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,080
put out and I'm like where did that come

2256
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,640
from? I didn't get to see that. I'm

2257
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,440
saying what I'm saying the process we

2258
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:06,800
had was a very good process. I'm running

2259
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,880
the meeting. I would know what's going

2260
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,400
on. I don't think we should change the

2261
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,679
process we had that was working. I hear

2262
01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:17,840
what you're saying. Yes, I asked for

2263
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,000
sponsors. I want to know who's on it. I

2264
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,560
would like to continue as we were with

2265
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,280
the agenda. So, I am running the

2266
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:26,800
meeting. I know what's happening. That's

2267
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,199
the way it's supposed to work. Not just

2268
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:31,199
all of a sudden, oh, it's too late. It

2269
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:33,440
just got posted. Teresa, I didn't I

2270
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:36,560
didn't send it to you. So, mayor, let me

2271
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,840
uh clarify on me for end.

2272
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,669
>> Back in February, we were told that we

2273
01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:43,679
» Back in February, we were told that we

2274
01:20:43,679 --> 01:20:46,159
were no longer involved in the agenda

2275
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:49,040
process and that we would get a draft of

2276
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,760
the agenda on Friday and that would

2277
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,920
allow us to do a legal review once you

2278
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,159
meet your noon deadline. I believe it's

2279
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:57,840
on Tuesday. Correct.

2280
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,830
>> And that's what we were instructed to do

2281
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:59,840
» And that's what we were instructed to do

2282
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,000
by city council pursuant to action that

2283
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,679
was taken in an open session.

2284
01:21:03,679 --> 01:21:05,590
>> That's correct. So if you are saying

2285
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:05,600
» That's correct. So if you are saying

2286
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,640
that you don't like that action, then

2287
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,120
your request is not that there's been

2288
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,640
some abrupt change, but that you want

2289
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,199
city council to reconsider. So that's

2290
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:15,600
the

2291
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,486
>> that is what I'm asking to reconsider. I

2292
01:21:18,486 --> 01:21:18,496
» that is what I'm asking to reconsider. I

2293
01:21:18,496 --> 01:21:20,560
[clears throat] mean the abrupt is seems

2294
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,600
to be a word that's a trigger word here.

2295
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,800
Take the word out, but I would like to

2296
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,199
request to go back to the process that

2297
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:31,120
we had that worked very well. Then I

2298
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,480
knew what was happening in a meeting

2299
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:35,280
instead of, oh, we have an attorney.

2300
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,679
It's fixing to be uh we got to stop the

2301
01:21:37,679 --> 01:21:39,600
meeting at 8:00. We have an attorney in

2302
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,360
the back room that's going to be on the

2303
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,080
phone. Things like that. I should know

2304
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:45,360
those.

2305
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:46,870
>> We're always going to change. I mean,

2306
01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:46,880
» We're always going to change. I mean,

2307
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,480
based on people's availability, whether

2308
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:51,520
it be Texas Parks or your staff, we may

2309
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,960
we have the flexibility. The Open

2310
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,280
Meetings Act allows us to move things

2311
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:55,920
around,

2312
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,229
>> right? That would be good to know. So, I

2313
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:58,239
» right? That would be good to know. So, I

2314
01:21:58,239 --> 01:21:59,840
I'm sure that we can try and keep you

2315
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,960
more apprised, but I do know that you

2316
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,639
are emailed that you receive all of

2317
01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:06,320
these emails cuz I get them and you're

2318
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,040
on them.

2319
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,629
>> So, I I I I don't know. I'm not sure why

2320
01:22:10,629 --> 01:22:10,639
» So, I I I I don't know. I'm not sure why

2321
01:22:10,639 --> 01:22:11,760
there's a claim that

2322
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,750
>> Do you have a call like with the

2323
01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:15,760
» Do you have a call like with the

2324
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,440
attorneys? Is there any Do you

2325
01:22:17,440 --> 01:22:20,149
>> Not anymore. No, that was taken off. So,

2326
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:20,159
» Not anymore. No, that was taken off. So,

2327
01:22:20,159 --> 01:22:23,280
I did have calls that Andy got too busy

2328
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,360
and then Judy was going to be on some

2329
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,280
calls and all of a sudden, but she

2330
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:28,800
wasn't going to be at the meeting. So,

2331
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,400
we had no cohesiveness.

2332
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:31,590
>> Well, let me correct you there because

2333
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:31,600
» Well, let me correct you there because

2334
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,520
we have offered at least three different

2335
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,679
Mondays my availability for you to speak

2336
01:22:35,679 --> 01:22:37,440
to me instead of Andy. That's true.

2337
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:38,470
>> You haven't.

2338
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:38,480
» You haven't.

2339
01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:39,990
>> Right. Because you weren't going to be

2340
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:40,000
» Right. Because you weren't going to be

2341
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:41,679
at the meeting. Andy was going to be at

2342
01:22:41,679 --> 01:22:42,480
the meeting.

2343
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:45,030
>> But I don't Okay. So, that is my

2344
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:45,040
» But I don't Okay. So, that is my

2345
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,920
request. I'm just asking Marcy, did you

2346
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,280
want to say something before we keep

2347
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,159
moving on?

2348
01:22:50,159 --> 01:22:52,310
>> I just simply wanted to ask from what

2349
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:52,320
» I just simply wanted to ask from what

2350
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,800
I've been listening to here, it seems

2351
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,120
like there was a team's meeting that was

2352
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,520
standard operating procedure. Are those

2353
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,520
happening still with only staff?

2354
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:03,990
>> No.

2355
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:04,000
» No.

2356
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,750
>> No. And it wasn't standard operating

2357
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:05,760
» No. And it wasn't standard operating

2358
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,280
procedure either. It was a request by

2359
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:08,639
the mayor to be told what the agenda

2360
01:23:08,639 --> 01:23:11,600
item was. We had a team's meeting that

2361
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,000
the Ashlin set up

2362
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,510
>> to tell Andy what to do.

2363
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:17,520
» to tell Andy what to do.

2364
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,440
You commented earlier. I told Andy,

2365
01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:23,350
>> I made the suggestion.

2366
01:23:23,350 --> 01:23:23,360
» I made the suggestion.

2367
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,430
>> I made the suggestion to Andy that these

2368
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:25,440
» I made the suggestion to Andy that these

2369
01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:28,960
are unneeded because the purpose is to

2370
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,400
go through agenda items to tell the

2371
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,120
mayor what the agenda item is and we'd

2372
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,440
be on a call for an hour to explain to

2373
01:23:35,440 --> 01:23:36,639
her what that agenda item.

2374
01:23:36,639 --> 01:23:38,390
>> Scott, you didn't have to be on on any

2375
01:23:38,390 --> 01:23:38,400
» Scott, you didn't have to be on on any

2376
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,120
call. Nobody else. I There were several

2377
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,880
times where I couldn't make the meeting

2378
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,040
if I had a a conflict with work and I

2379
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,800
would ask another council member to step

2380
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,760
in as the council representative and

2381
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,280
Scott was most usually readily

2382
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:52,960
available. So that's why

2383
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,629
>> he would be in there and I would agree.

2384
01:23:54,629 --> 01:23:54,639
» he would be in there and I would agree.

2385
01:23:54,639 --> 01:23:56,239
I I feel it was

2386
01:23:56,239 --> 01:23:57,990
>> pretty much just going line by line. Any

2387
01:23:57,990 --> 01:23:58,000
» pretty much just going line by line. Any

2388
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,679
legal issues here? Nope. Okay.

2389
01:23:59,679 --> 01:24:02,149
>> From seven and $800 an hour two or three

2390
01:24:02,149 --> 01:24:02,159
» From seven and $800 an hour two or three

2391
01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:03,040
times a week.

2392
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,430
>> Well, I think that's a minimal amount.

2393
01:24:05,430 --> 01:24:05,440
» Well, I think that's a minimal amount.

2394
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:09,510
>> I'm sorry. gets a minimal amount spent

2395
01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:09,520
» I'm sorry. gets a minimal amount spent

2396
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,480
on agenda items that these meetings are

2397
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:15,199
very important for us. They're important

2398
01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:17,600
for all of us and they're important to

2399
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,320
citizens. I think keeping the

2400
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,000
organization

2401
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,520
and the group as a whole and I am

2402
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,440
presenting it. I would very much like to

2403
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:30,239
be on a team's back as a group like we

2404
01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:32,639
did before. So I would know things are

2405
01:24:32,639 --> 01:24:35,280
changing before their final

2406
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,550
>> parliamentary requesting [clears throat]

2407
01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:38,560
» parliamentary requesting [clears throat]

2408
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,470
>> Eric, would you like to say something?

2409
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:40,480
» Eric, would you like to say something?

2410
01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:43,669
>> Yes. Parliamentary inquiry. Uh, who

2411
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:43,679
» Yes. Parliamentary inquiry. Uh, who

2412
01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:47,360
controls the power of the purse?

2413
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:48,629
>> City council.

2414
01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:48,639
» City council.

2415
01:24:48,639 --> 01:24:50,229
>> Okay. And we voted on it. Thank you.

2416
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:50,239
» Okay. And we voted on it. Thank you.

2417
01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:51,910
>> Thank you.

2418
01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:51,920
» Thank you.

2419
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,870
>> What was that?

2420
01:24:54,870 --> 01:24:54,880
» What was that?

2421
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,310
>> You keep saying that we are over on our

2422
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:58,320
» You keep saying that we are over on our

2423
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,400
attorney's budgets. We cut some things

2424
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:04,320
out. Um, so we're trying to control

2425
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,040
expenses. Mayor

2426
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,040
Well, I don't think the agenda was a

2427
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:10,800
small amount compared to everything else

2428
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,520
that y'all are spending. Eric,

2429
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,189
>> we're talking about lawsuits which will

2430
01:25:15,189 --> 01:25:15,199
» we're talking about lawsuits which will

2431
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:16,400
cost money.

2432
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,709
>> Um, but if you look at everything else

2433
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:18,719
» Um, but if you look at everything else

2434
01:25:18,719 --> 01:25:20,719
besides that,

2435
01:25:20,719 --> 01:25:23,669
>> um, we have to make tough decisions or

2436
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:23,679
» um, we have to make tough decisions or

2437
01:25:23,679 --> 01:25:26,000
else then we start looking at where else

2438
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,400
are we going to be cutting. Uh, are we

2439
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,239
going to raise taxes in the next budget

2440
01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:32,159
cycle, which I don't want to do. I want

2441
01:25:32,159 --> 01:25:34,080
to be below new revenue rate. That's

2442
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,920
always what I want to do because I don't

2443
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,520
want anybody having to pay more taxes

2444
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,040
than they should.

2445
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,270
>> That's a That's a good key phrase to

2446
01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:41,280
» That's a That's a good key phrase to

2447
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,760
use. It is. Jeff, you want to say

2448
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:44,960
something?

2449
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,629
>> During the time that these meetings were

2450
01:25:46,629 --> 01:25:46,639
» During the time that these meetings were

2451
01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:50,480
held, was there ever anything found

2452
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:53,040
during that meeting that was worthwhile

2453
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,520
that needed to be adjusted, need to be

2454
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,239
corrected, need be reevaluated?

2455
01:25:58,239 --> 01:25:58,629
>> Yes.

2456
01:25:58,629 --> 01:25:58,639
» Yes.

2457
01:25:58,639 --> 01:26:01,910
>> No. Yes, there was. And it was it was

2458
01:26:01,910 --> 01:26:01,920
» No. Yes, there was. And it was it was

2459
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:06,960
very good to have the meetings and it

2460
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,000
was not a large amount compared to

2461
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,679
everything that we're spending. So my

2462
01:26:13,679 --> 01:26:18,719
request was to amend the ordinance 92625

2463
01:26:18,719 --> 01:26:21,120
to remove the word or the word section

2464
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,320
one that changed the code addressing the

2465
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,520
meetings. So that's what I'm requesting

2466
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,360
a motion. Is anybody going to make a

2467
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,440
motion as we sit here?

2468
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:33,030
>> Anyone going to make a motion?

2469
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:33,040
» Anyone going to make a motion?

2470
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,669
>> Just to be clear, um,

2471
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:35,679
» Just to be clear, um,

2472
01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:38,070
>> from the numbers I've looked at, it

2473
01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:38,080
» from the numbers I've looked at, it

2474
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,480
appears that all five council members

2475
01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:43,600
combined attorneys fees when you look at

2476
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,120
all the the billing um is below just

2477
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,400
what you have as the mayor on the

2478
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:55,360
attorney's fees billing. So, um, we're

2479
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,040
doing a good job, I think, at managing

2480
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,800
our expenses. Um, but you, your

2481
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,320
expenses,

2482
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:06,000
don't laugh at him. Don't laugh at him.

2483
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,830
>> Okay.

2484
01:27:07,830 --> 01:27:07,840
» Okay.

2485
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,280
I was getting one hour a week. That's

2486
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,440
what I was getting. And then that got

2487
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:16,719
cut out. So, I I don't think you can say

2488
01:27:16,719 --> 01:27:19,280
I was spending a lot of money. So, okay,

2489
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:20,950
>> we need to move on. We're going to spend

2490
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:20,960
» we need to move on. We're going to spend

2491
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,800
all night on this subject. Apparently,

2492
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,360
y'all are not going to uh address the

2493
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,639
issue, correct the issue, and put the

2494
01:27:28,639 --> 01:27:31,199
meetings back where they were. Y'all

2495
01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:33,360
don't have an interest in that. I want

2496
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,199
everybody to understand the mayor does

2497
01:27:35,199 --> 01:27:39,360
not have a vote. So Jeff again, yes,

2498
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,030
>> just to reiterate,

2499
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:41,040
» just to reiterate,

2500
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,350
>> these meetings were useful because I

2501
01:27:43,350 --> 01:27:43,360
» these meetings were useful because I

2502
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,159
feel that these are being unjustly

2503
01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:50,800
painted as $800 for an attorney to read

2504
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,600
the agenda to you. But it sounds to me

2505
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,239
like it is more than just that that come

2506
01:27:56,239 --> 01:27:57,840
out of these meetings. You have actually

2507
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,239
found items that need discussed that

2508
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:01,920
need addressed.

2509
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:02,629
>> Yes,

2510
01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:02,639
» Yes,

2511
01:28:02,639 --> 01:28:03,430
>> I disagree.

2512
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:03,440
» I disagree.

2513
01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:06,390
>> That's true. I just name an item.

2514
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:06,400
» That's true. I just name an item.

2515
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,950
>> Oh my gosh. Really, Eric?

2516
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:08,960
» Oh my gosh. Really, Eric?

2517
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,830
>> No. I mean, you said you just said yes.

2518
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:11,840
» No. I mean, you said you just said yes.

2519
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,600
No. Eric, stop. Stop. Don't be so silly.

2520
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,080
Let's be mature. Let's be professional.

2521
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,870
>> So, you'd rather spend $8,400

2522
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:20,880
» So, you'd rather spend $8,400

2523
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,440
a month to be told what an agenda item

2524
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:24,960
is.

2525
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:25,590
>> Like I said,

2526
01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:25,600
» Like I said,

2527
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,590
>> Scott,

2528
01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:27,600
» Scott,

2529
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,840
it is. It's the math.

2530
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,229
>> Very unprofessional. If you don't want

2531
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:32,239
» Very unprofessional. If you don't want

2532
01:28:32,239 --> 01:28:34,320
to get it corrected and do it the way we

2533
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,360
did it before let's move on and not just

2534
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:38,639
go back and forth. We're not going to

2535
01:28:38,639 --> 01:28:39,840
cross talk. We're not doing that

2536
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:40,320
anymore.

2537
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,149
>> Well, we could have no more. We're doing

2538
01:28:42,149 --> 01:28:42,159
» Well, we could have no more. We're doing

2539
01:28:42,159 --> 01:28:45,679
that. No more back and forth. Tony

2540
01:28:45,679 --> 01:28:46,480
matter.

2541
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:48,310
>> Stop. You have not been You have not

2542
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:48,320
» Stop. You have not been You have not

2543
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,000
been acknowledged. Hold on.

2544
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:50,790
>> Excuse me.

2545
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:50,800
» Excuse me.

2546
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,629
>> One at a time.

2547
01:28:52,629 --> 01:28:52,639
» One at a time.

2548
01:28:52,639 --> 01:28:53,910
>> One at a time.

2549
01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:53,920
» One at a time.

2550
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:54,390
>> Stop.

2551
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:54,400
» Stop.

2552
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,950
>> Yeah. Excuse you. Hold on.

2553
01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:56,960
» Yeah. Excuse you. Hold on.

2554
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:57,830
>> Okay. God.

2555
01:28:57,830 --> 01:28:57,840
» Okay. God.

2556
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,229
>> So, lacking a motion. I hear that

2557
01:29:00,229 --> 01:29:00,239
» So, lacking a motion. I hear that

2558
01:29:00,239 --> 01:29:01,840
there's no motion. So we can move on.

2559
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:02,390
>> Nope.

2560
01:29:02,390 --> 01:29:02,400
» Nope.

2561
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,390
>> Correct.

2562
01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:04,400
» Correct.

2563
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,229
>> Okay.

2564
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:06,239
» Okay.

2565
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:09,440
Not getting help on that one.

2566
01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:12,000
Reports. Staff reports for second and

2567
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,031
third quarter. Item eight.

2568
01:29:14,031 --> 01:29:15,199
[clears throat] Quarterly staff

2569
01:29:15,199 --> 01:29:18,480
municipal court. Michelle Low.

2570
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:20,790
>> These are just in the packet. They're

2571
01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:20,800
» These are just in the packet. They're

2572
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,440
not for discussion.

2573
01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:25,750
>> If you had any questions on any of I

2574
01:29:25,750 --> 01:29:25,760
» If you had any questions on any of I

2575
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:26,239
think

2576
01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:28,070
>> Okay. Parks department. So we're not

2577
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:28,080
» Okay. Parks department. So we're not

2578
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,159
doing any reports. Mandy is not coming

2579
01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:31,600
up. No, they're on the they're in the

2580
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,520
packet. We haven't like that.

2581
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,510
>> Okay. I think it'd be good to discuss it

2582
01:29:35,510 --> 01:29:35,520
» Okay. I think it'd be good to discuss it

2583
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,520
in front of the citizens, but I guess

2584
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,040
you're not ready for that.

2585
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,550
>> Mayor, this is the way it's been on

2586
01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:40,560
» Mayor, this is the way it's been on

2587
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,320
quarterly reports for

2588
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,229
>> years. Years. Like that's how we do it.

2589
01:29:44,229 --> 01:29:44,239
» years. Years. Like that's how we do it.

2590
01:29:44,239 --> 01:29:46,639
And if you have a specific question for

2591
01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:48,709
>> a department here,

2592
01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:48,719
» a department here,

2593
01:29:48,719 --> 01:29:51,270
>> okay, excuse me, months.

2594
01:29:51,270 --> 01:29:51,280
» okay, excuse me, months.

2595
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,080
It's been at least several quarters at

2596
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:55,920
this point. This is not a new process.

2597
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,679
If there are department heads to which

2598
01:29:57,679 --> 01:29:59,360
you had specific questions, this is the

2599
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,639
way we reduce time to instead of going

2600
01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:04,400
through each report one by one, we

2601
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:05,600
reduce the time and if there were

2602
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,760
specifics you had for each department,

2603
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,000
you could address those and I would say

2604
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,760
that if they are here and prepared to if

2605
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,679
you have questions specifically for the

2606
01:30:13,679 --> 01:30:15,280
department, please do so because that is

2607
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:16,639
the purpose of this time.

2608
01:30:16,639 --> 01:30:19,350
>> Thank you very much, Nathan. Okay, so

2609
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:19,360
» Thank you very much, Nathan. Okay, so

2610
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,199
we're going to skip down since no one's

2611
01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:25,600
presenting anything. Is Gretchen here?

2612
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:26,800
I'm here.

2613
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,990
>> Gretchen. Okay. So, Gretchen,

2614
01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:30,000
» Gretchen. Okay. So, Gretchen,

2615
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,270
>> why are we moving to Gretchen?

2616
01:30:31,270 --> 01:30:31,280
» why are we moving to Gretchen?

2617
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,990
>> I had some questions I bet that you know

2618
01:30:33,990 --> 01:30:34,000
» I had some questions I bet that you know

2619
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,520
and can answer.

2620
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,270
>> What?

2621
01:30:37,270 --> 01:30:37,280
» What?

2622
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,629
>> Where are we going with this?

2623
01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:38,639
» Where are we going with this?

2624
01:30:38,639 --> 01:30:40,310
>> What What What item are we on on the

2625
01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:40,320
» What What What item are we on on the

2626
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:40,719
agenda?

2627
01:30:40,719 --> 01:30:44,390
>> We're jumping down to the project update

2628
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:44,400
» We're jumping down to the project update

2629
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:48,149
from Gretchen.

2630
01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:51,360
» Where which is it on one of the specific

2631
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,120
reports? You mean?

2632
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,830
>> Yeah, it's it's Gretchen's second and

2633
01:30:55,830 --> 01:30:55,840
» Yeah, it's it's Gretchen's second and

2634
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,920
third. That's what I'm going to ask her

2635
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:58,480
questions.

2636
01:30:58,480 --> 01:31:00,470
>> Gotcha. So, if you use the item number,

2637
01:31:00,470 --> 01:31:00,480
» Gotcha. So, if you use the item number,

2638
01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:01,679
that would be helpful. You're still on

2639
01:31:01,679 --> 01:31:03,360
item number eight, but you

2640
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:03,910
>> Yes, I am.

2641
01:31:03,910 --> 01:31:03,920
» Yes, I am.

2642
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:04,310
>> Gotcha.

2643
01:31:04,310 --> 01:31:04,320
» Gotcha.

2644
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:04,629
>> Sorry.

2645
01:31:04,629 --> 01:31:04,639
» Sorry.

2646
01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:05,270
>> All right.

2647
01:31:05,270 --> 01:31:05,280
» All right.

2648
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,030
>> Mhm.

2649
01:31:07,030 --> 01:31:07,040
» Mhm.

2650
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:08,870
>> Okay, Gretchen.

2651
01:31:08,870 --> 01:31:08,880
» Okay, Gretchen.

2652
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:10,229
>> Are you ready?

2653
01:31:10,229 --> 01:31:10,239
» Are you ready?

2654
01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:10,709
>> Hi.

2655
01:31:10,709 --> 01:31:10,719
» Hi.

2656
01:31:10,719 --> 01:31:13,510
>> Okay. Okay. Is this construction work

2657
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:13,520
» Okay. Okay. Is this construction work

2658
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,520
being done right now along Bankhead

2659
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,639
Highway for the sewer line and the water

2660
01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:21,760
line or possibly efficiently address

2661
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,560
both to accommodate the water main

2662
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,343
upgrade?

2663
01:31:26,343 --> 01:31:26,560
[clears throat]

2664
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,270
>> Yes, we're doing Yeah, we're doing work

2665
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:29,280
» Yes, we're doing Yeah, we're doing work

2666
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,400
um on Banket Highway. Um the project

2667
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:36,080
consists of approximately 4,800 linear

2668
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:41,280
feet of 8 in water line and 4,900 linear

2669
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:45,760
feet of 10 in sewer line. So yeah, we're

2670
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,239
doing work out there. We started July

2671
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:49,520
21st.

2672
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:49,990
>> Okay.

2673
01:31:49,990 --> 01:31:50,000
» Okay.

2674
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:54,550
>> And it's um for water and sewer.

2675
01:31:54,550 --> 01:31:54,560
» And it's um for water and sewer.

2676
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,149
>> Okay.

2677
01:31:56,149 --> 01:31:56,159
» Okay.

2678
01:31:56,159 --> 01:32:00,080
So, what entity uh made the decision to

2679
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,000
close Bankhead

2680
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,199
um for phase 2 project and when was that

2681
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:08,400
decision made and why was it made to

2682
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,560
close the road? How did that work?

2683
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:14,470
>> So, we had meetings with the contractor

2684
01:32:14,470 --> 01:32:14,480
» So, we had meetings with the contractor

2685
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:17,360
about the work that was about to get

2686
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:18,159
started.

2687
01:32:18,159 --> 01:32:19,270
>> Jacob Martin.

2688
01:32:19,270 --> 01:32:19,280
» Jacob Martin.

2689
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,229
>> Yes, Jacob Martin. Yes. Um the

2690
01:32:22,229 --> 01:32:22,239
» Yes, Jacob Martin. Yes. Um the

2691
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:26,320
contractor Sky Blue Utilities

2692
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,600
and um city staff.

2693
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,790
>> Gotcha. Okay. So, how and when were the

2694
01:32:32,790 --> 01:32:32,800
» Gotcha. Okay. So, how and when were the

2695
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,639
notices sent to businesses along phase 2

2696
01:32:36,639 --> 01:32:38,159
uh project road?

2697
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:44,629
>> I believe the first push was July 1st.

2698
01:32:44,639 --> 01:32:46,800
» So, y'all contacted the businesses

2699
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,719
before that happened? Um it

2700
01:32:48,719 --> 01:32:49,510
>> the city

2701
01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:49,520
» the city

2702
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:53,270
>> um I through the city's Facebook page um

2703
01:32:53,270 --> 01:32:53,280
» um I through the city's Facebook page um

2704
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,400
other social media platforms.

2705
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:57,910
>> I don't I can tell you

2706
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:57,920
» I don't I can tell you

2707
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,669
>> we that contacted

2708
01:32:59,669 --> 01:32:59,679
» we that contacted

2709
01:32:59,679 --> 01:33:02,709
>> June 29th signs were put out. July 1st

2710
01:33:02,709 --> 01:33:02,719
» June 29th signs were put out. July 1st

2711
01:33:02,719 --> 01:33:04,880
the first website and email messaging

2712
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,360
and Facebook post went out. July 17th

2713
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,520
was a second website and email messaging

2714
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,440
Facebook post and the work started on

2715
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:15,110
7:20.

2716
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,800
But the city did not contact these

2717
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,960
businesses on the on um the road. Is

2718
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:23,520
that right?

2719
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,590
>> Not on Bake Head Road. No. Bank Highway.

2720
01:33:25,590 --> 01:33:25,600
» Not on Bake Head Road. No. Bank Highway.

2721
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:26,080
No.

2722
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,229
>> Okay.

2723
01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:28,239
» Okay.

2724
01:33:28,239 --> 01:33:30,320
They were contacted through the same

2725
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,480
channels of everyone else was contacted

2726
01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:35,040
being the website, the email messaging

2727
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,360
to our residents and our res and our

2728
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,000
businesses in our city limits. Facebook

2729
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,560
posts. Second website, email messaging,

2730
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,600
Facebook post. So, the same way that we

2731
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,880
tell everyone else to get our messaging.

2732
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,830
>> Okay. Well, I I personally got

2733
01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:51,840
» Okay. Well, I I personally got

2734
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,840
complaints from business owners, spent a

2735
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:57,360
lot of time when they called um very

2736
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:01,760
upset that we did not contact them. Um

2737
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,840
some of them pay um their water bills

2738
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,639
through Willow Park. even though they're

2739
01:34:08,639 --> 01:34:12,080
Alto, they paid the uh city of Willow

2740
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,800
Park and those were some of the people

2741
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:16,880
that were upset. We didn't contact them

2742
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,920
personally. When you shut the road down

2743
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,840
and the business is there and then all

2744
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,360
of a sudden it's very upsetting clearly

2745
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,360
when they reached out. Um and then one

2746
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,600
of them said that one of our staff hung

2747
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,159
up on a business owner and they got very

2748
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:36,800
upset and I I heard all about that one

2749
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,120
also. So, what I'm [clears throat]

2750
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,840
suggesting is we might going forward, we

2751
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:46,000
might try to call uh the businesses

2752
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,080
before we close the road right in front

2753
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:51,120
of their business to to help our

2754
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,520
businesses and our citizens out. I think

2755
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,280
that's something that we definitely

2756
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,800
should do. Um I don't see any reason why

2757
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,120
we shouldn't do that. Uh we know where

2758
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,639
they are. We can drive by them and they

2759
01:35:04,639 --> 01:35:06,800
they pay the water bill. I don't know

2760
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,120
how many of them do. Maybe some are on.

2761
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,320
Well, I do not know that answer, but I

2762
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,000
think it would be a good practice going

2763
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,040
forward for uh the businesses.

2764
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:18,950
>> Mayor Palmer, I do want to correct the

2765
01:35:18,950 --> 01:35:18,960
» Mayor Palmer, I do want to correct the

2766
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,639
fact the road was not closed. So, there

2767
01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:22,480
was no through traffic. The road has

2768
01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:25,120
never been fully closed. So, the traffic

2769
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:26,560
can get through and get to those

2770
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,960
businesses. And we did have a meeting

2771
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,120
with the contractor last Thursday. And

2772
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,120
there is a flagger there as of Monday

2773
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,440
that is trying to field traffic to get

2774
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:38,320
to the businesses. So there the road has

2775
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,560
not been fully closed at the point where

2776
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,159
they're doing the construction.

2777
01:35:42,159 --> 01:35:44,310
>> Well, it was closed and then rerouted

2778
01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:44,320
» Well, it was closed and then rerouted

2779
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:45,920
through a neighborhood and routed back

2780
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,639
and that was the complaint that I got.

2781
01:35:48,639 --> 01:35:48,960
Yes.

2782
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:50,550
>> So I got several of them.

2783
01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:50,560
» So I got several of them.

2784
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,629
>> There is a detour obviously so that they

2785
01:35:52,629 --> 01:35:52,639
» There is a detour obviously so that they

2786
01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:54,480
don't have traffic constantly going

2787
01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:55,600
through.

2788
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,430
>> Are you a business owner back there? Is

2789
01:35:57,430 --> 01:35:57,440
» Are you a business owner back there? Is

2790
01:35:57,440 --> 01:35:59,360
that why you're waving at me? Uh, I

2791
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,199
tried to go through there because I

2792
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:02,960
heard that there was you couldn't go

2793
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,120
through there. It was completely closed

2794
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,600
off at 8:00 this morning.

2795
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:08,870
>> Oh, this morning.

2796
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:08,880
» Oh, this morning.

2797
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,510
>> So, this morning it was closed.

2798
01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:11,520
» So, this morning it was closed.

2799
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:12,790
>> Wow.

2800
01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:12,800
» Wow.

2801
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:13,830
>> Did you know that

2802
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:13,840
» Did you know that

2803
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:15,270
>> they're not starting at 8:00 in the

2804
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:15,280
» they're not starting at 8:00 in the

2805
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,600
morning for work, but there is a flagger

2806
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,199
that will be there during the day.

2807
01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:20,870
>> But they totally closed the road down.

2808
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:20,880
» But they totally closed the road down.

2809
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:22,470
>> It should not be fully closed. There

2810
01:36:22,470 --> 01:36:22,480
» It should not be fully closed. There

2811
01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:25,920
should be the the barricade that goes

2812
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,080
mostly across the road to deter traffic

2813
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,320
from going through to interrupt the work

2814
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,560
that's already been opened.

2815
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:33,990
>> Okay. So, you're saying you couldn't get

2816
01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:34,000
» Okay. So, you're saying you couldn't get

2817
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,000
through at all?

2818
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,590
>> Okay.

2819
01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:37,600
» Okay.

2820
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:38,550
>> Yes.

2821
01:36:38,550 --> 01:36:38,560
» Yes.

2822
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:42,070
>> How soon is it before school start?

2823
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:42,080
» How soon is it before school start?

2824
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:43,990
>> Two weeks, I think, when somebody called

2825
01:36:43,990 --> 01:36:44,000
» Two weeks, I think, when somebody called

2826
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:45,360
me to complain about it.

2827
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,270
>> There was a meeting with Alto ISD today,

2828
01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:47,280
» There was a meeting with Alto ISD today,

2829
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,239
so they're fully aware.

2830
01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:53,109
>> Thank you.

2831
01:36:53,109 --> 01:36:53,119
» Thank you.

2832
01:36:53,119 --> 01:36:54,880
So, is there a plan?

2833
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,030
>> We we have another meeting scheduled

2834
01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:57,040
» We we have another meeting scheduled

2835
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:00,880
with the school for for Monday um to

2836
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,920
talk about traffic flows, detours,

2837
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:08,239
emergency access, active road projects,

2838
01:37:08,239 --> 01:37:11,280
communication channels for unexpected

2839
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:15,040
incidents, and um district operations.

2840
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:16,310
>> So, y'all are meeting Monday.

2841
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:16,320
» So, y'all are meeting Monday.

2842
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:20,790
>> The school Yeah. Um is Yeah. Um they

2843
01:37:20,790 --> 01:37:20,800
» The school Yeah. Um is Yeah. Um they

2844
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:24,480
scheduled that. Um I think um the

2845
01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:28,239
neighboring cities um were included um

2846
01:37:28,239 --> 01:37:30,080
texter

2847
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,440
county we'll have more information.

2848
01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:36,390
>> Okay. And so we'll once you meet with

2849
01:37:36,390 --> 01:37:36,400
» Okay. And so we'll once you meet with

2850
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,159
the school again, you'll push it out on

2851
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:40,320
our our city site. So everybody needs

2852
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,880
everybody needs to look at the city site

2853
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,960
to get the updates because a lot of

2854
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,920
people that one that called me very

2855
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,000
concerned about school starting and and

2856
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,000
this traffic how are we going to get our

2857
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:53,520
kids you know

2858
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,510
>> to school right which is what y'all are

2859
01:37:55,510 --> 01:37:55,520
» to school right which is what y'all are

2860
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:56,880
addressing right

2861
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,189
>> so the school scheduled the meeting so

2862
01:37:59,189 --> 01:37:59,199
» so the school scheduled the meeting so

2863
01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:02,239
we'll know more but yeah

2864
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:03,750
>> the schools the schools will push that

2865
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:03,760
» the schools the schools will push that

2866
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,560
out too on their student parent portals

2867
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:07,760
and everything as well too because

2868
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:08,960
they're going to have to reroute buses

2869
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:10,960
and things of that nature. So, I just

2870
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,239
know that because I've got kids in

2871
01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:13,440
school still. So,

2872
01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:16,470
>> traffic and safety coordination meeting.

2873
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:16,480
» traffic and safety coordination meeting.

2874
01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:17,750
>> Great.

2875
01:38:17,750 --> 01:38:17,760
» Great.

2876
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,189
>> When are you meeting with are you

2877
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:19,199
» When are you meeting with are you

2878
01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:22,159
meeting with Skyblue on a daily basis or

2879
01:38:22,159 --> 01:38:26,000
how regular is that? And are there any

2880
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:27,840
Let's answer that first. How often is

2881
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:28,480
that happening?

2882
01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:31,830
>> Yes. So, um um I go out over there um

2883
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:31,840
» Yes. So, um um I go out over there um

2884
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:35,119
morning um afternoon. Um there's um

2885
01:38:35,119 --> 01:38:37,760
Jacob Martin has an inspector on site,

2886
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:41,040
too. Um, and so if they have any issues,

2887
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:45,119
um, they call us, um, Chase. Um, so

2888
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:47,119
yeah, that's kind of how we're handling

2889
01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:50,560
it. But, um, I went over there, um,

2890
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,600
today around noon, no, not noon, about

2891
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,639
11:00. um talked to both well one of the

2892
01:38:56,639 --> 01:38:59,679
flaggers. They had two flaggers and

2893
01:38:59,679 --> 01:39:03,440
everything seemed to go I mean I did see

2894
01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:06,880
cars going through but um they were they

2895
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,920
were doing the detours. Um I asked the

2896
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:13,360
flaggers you know um how how was it? I

2897
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,080
mean is it getting better? It seem seems

2898
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,880
to be I mean you get the occasional

2899
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:22,320
traffic. Um but for the most part I I

2900
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,520
think people now know how to you know

2901
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,560
follow the detour signs, how to get

2902
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:33,119
around where they need to go. Um I go

2903
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:37,760
home for lunch um every day. So I do I

2904
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,719
travel back to go home. Sorry.

2905
01:39:40,719 --> 01:39:44,149
>> Um, so I've been able to do that um

2906
01:39:44,149 --> 01:39:44,159
» Um, so I've been able to do that um

2907
01:39:44,159 --> 01:39:47,920
during lunchtime after work um and and I

2908
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:51,440
I follow the frontage road um turn on

2909
01:39:51,440 --> 01:39:54,639
new energy and you know just go back

2910
01:39:54,639 --> 01:39:56,320
home back and forth. So,

2911
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,870
>> let me ask then if if we do have like a

2912
01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:58,880
» let me ask then if if we do have like a

2913
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,119
flag or trying to get people through on

2914
01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:03,840
each end of um the construction, would

2915
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,239
it not be is it an option then to ask

2916
01:40:06,239 --> 01:40:09,440
them to open one side and just have the

2917
01:40:09,440 --> 01:40:10,960
radio communications as we've seen on

2918
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:12,480
many of our two-lane highways throughout

2919
01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:13,280
Texas to say

2920
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:13,910
>> so they had

2921
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:13,920
» so they had

2922
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,579
>> this group comes through now use

2923
01:40:15,579 --> 01:40:15,589
» this group comes through now use

2924
01:40:15,589 --> 01:40:17,040
[clears throat] the sideway.

2925
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,790
>> Yeah. So, they've got the two flaggers

2926
01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:18,800
» Yeah. So, they've got the two flaggers

2927
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,719
and then there's another one kind of

2928
01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:22,639
like in the middle just watching, you

2929
01:40:22,639 --> 01:40:26,560
know, traffic flow um and letting cars

2930
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,360
go through um through through traffic.

2931
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:33,280
Um but um yeah. Um what So, they're

2932
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,480
going to be more, I guess, proactive.

2933
01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:39,920
the flaggers are um because sometimes

2934
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,719
people just go through um that either

2935
01:40:42,719 --> 01:40:45,600
are not going to the businesses or they

2936
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,159
just want to go through. Um so I I think

2937
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:50,960
they're just going to stop them and um

2938
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,679
inform them of what's going on and that

2939
01:40:53,679 --> 01:40:55,600
that's one of what one of the flaggers

2940
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,000
told me this morning. They're explaining

2941
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,719
what's going on and how they can make

2942
01:41:00,719 --> 01:41:04,320
the or or they can take alternate routes

2943
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,480
so that they don't have to go through

2944
01:41:06,480 --> 01:41:08,480
the project work zone.

2945
01:41:08,480 --> 01:41:10,229
>> Is the work taking place on both sides

2946
01:41:10,229 --> 01:41:10,239
» Is the work taking place on both sides

2947
01:41:10,239 --> 01:41:11,119
of the street?

2948
01:41:11,119 --> 01:41:14,229
>> It it's um well the line's right in the

2949
01:41:14,229 --> 01:41:14,239
» It it's um well the line's right in the

2950
01:41:14,239 --> 01:41:14,960
middle,

2951
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,430
>> right? Is there that would be my

2952
01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:17,440
» right? Is there that would be my

2953
01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:19,520
question then to talk to Skyblue and see

2954
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:23,119
about opening up a a through route even

2955
01:41:23,119 --> 01:41:25,199
if it's just to relieve some of the back

2956
01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:26,960
to school, anything like that. Lane,

2957
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,520
we'll we'll more

2958
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:30,709
>> I touch on that.

2959
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:30,719
» I touch on that.

2960
01:41:30,719 --> 01:41:32,470
>> There was Wasn't there an issue with the

2961
01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:32,480
» There was Wasn't there an issue with the

2962
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:33,679
width?

2963
01:41:33,679 --> 01:41:36,229
>> Yes, we we sorry to cut you off. We we

2964
01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:36,239
» Yes, we we sorry to cut you off. We we

2965
01:41:36,239 --> 01:41:38,080
did have a meeting today on site with

2966
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:39,920
the contractor, some members of the

2967
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:41,760
county, their engineering firm and our

2968
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,719
engineering firm. And that was that was

2969
01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:46,560
the sole part of the discussion was

2970
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,600
trying to see if there was a way to make

2971
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,639
one lane either east to west or west to

2972
01:41:52,639 --> 01:41:54,639
east open fully in the issue.

2973
01:41:54,639 --> 01:41:56,709
>> That would be great. Well, that don't

2974
01:41:56,709 --> 01:41:56,719
» That would be great. Well, that don't

2975
01:41:56,719 --> 01:41:59,360
get your hopes up. Unfortunately, that

2976
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,280
the way that road is designed as it is

2977
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,360
currently that there's

2978
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,109
>> wider stretches and narrower stretches.

2979
01:42:05,109 --> 01:42:05,119
» wider stretches and narrower stretches.

2980
01:42:05,119 --> 01:42:06,000
You have

2981
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,950
>> drainage with um guard rails and things.

2982
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:08,960
» drainage with um guard rails and things.

2983
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,119
So, doing that will be very intermittent

2984
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:12,960
and it'll probably just create more

2985
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,040
confusion and for the alignment of the

2986
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,239
new utilities going in and it's going

2987
01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:20,560
center line of road or slightly offset.

2988
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:21,520
And

2989
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,350
>> the issue with that is the equipment

2990
01:42:23,350 --> 01:42:23,360
» the issue with that is the equipment

2991
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,280
that they're using. They're using a

2992
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,600
excavator to dig the trench right now.

2993
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,040
And at the depth they're at, they can

2994
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,360
use a midsize excavator, which setting

2995
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:35,199
up on the ditch line overhangs three 3

2996
01:42:35,199 --> 01:42:37,360
and 1/2 ft into the other lane. Now,

2997
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:38,639
when they get a little further down,

2998
01:42:38,639 --> 01:42:39,760
they're going to have to upsize their

2999
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:41,520
equipment due to the depth and it's a

3000
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,440
14t wide piece of equipment. So, it's

3001
01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:45,119
going to hang basically center line of

3002
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:48,800
the other lane. So, it's not going to be

3003
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:49,760
feasible. It's going to be more

3004
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,600
dangerous for everybody involved trying

3005
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:55,360
to squeeze cars in through one lane.

3006
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,159
So, that answered your question on that.

3007
01:42:58,159 --> 01:42:59,830
>> So, we're getting a big no in the back

3008
01:42:59,830 --> 01:42:59,840
» So, we're getting a big no in the back

3009
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,880
of the room. And what is your name? I'm

3010
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:04,000
sorry.

3011
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:04,470
>> Me?

3012
01:43:04,470 --> 01:43:04,480
» Me?

3013
01:43:04,480 --> 01:43:05,350
>> Yes.

3014
01:43:05,350 --> 01:43:05,360
» Yes.

3015
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,109
>> I don't have anything to say about this.

3016
01:43:07,109 --> 01:43:07,119
» I don't have anything to say about this.

3017
01:43:07,119 --> 01:43:07,669
>> Nothing.

3018
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:07,679
» Nothing.

3019
01:43:07,679 --> 01:43:09,510
>> It's horrible. It's more than the plan.

3020
01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:09,520
» It's horrible. It's more than the plan.

3021
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:09,910
>> Okay.

3022
01:43:09,910 --> 01:43:09,920
» Okay.

3023
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,350
>> And there is there was at 8:00

3024
01:43:13,350 --> 01:43:13,360
» And there is there was at 8:00

3025
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,440
there was no flagger there.

3026
01:43:15,440 --> 01:43:17,669
>> It was just blocked. So, what time do

3027
01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:17,679
» It was just blocked. So, what time do

3028
01:43:17,679 --> 01:43:19,600
the flaggers come on? If you got traffic

3029
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:21,520
at 8, how does that work that she's

3030
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:22,960
saying no one is there?

3031
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,750
>> We um I'm don't can't answer that

3032
01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:25,760
» We um I'm don't can't answer that

3033
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:27,199
question, but I can definitely we're

3034
01:43:27,199 --> 01:43:28,560
we're having weekly meetings with the

3035
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,800
contractor. We set that today. We're

3036
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:32,000
going to have weekly construction

3037
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,040
meetings to alleviate any road any speed

3038
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,280
bumps. We know it's been it's been a

3039
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:38,880
nightmare and a half trying to get this

3040
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,360
started, but we're

3041
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,830
>> bear with us. We're we're working lock

3042
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:43,840
» bear with us. We're we're working lock

3043
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,480
step trying to get this resolved as best

3044
01:43:46,480 --> 01:43:47,040
we can.

3045
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:48,870
>> Marcy, you have a question.

3046
01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:48,880
» Marcy, you have a question.

3047
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:50,870
>> Is there a way to be done through the

3048
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:50,880
» Is there a way to be done through the

3049
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:52,800
night? Will that alleviate some of the

3050
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:53,920
issue?

3051
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,790
>> Uh that has not been discussed. Um we

3052
01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:56,800
» Uh that has not been discussed. Um we

3053
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,440
could possibly discuss this approach and

3054
01:43:59,440 --> 01:44:01,760
it was 30 to 40% more.

3055
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:02,870
>> Oh, okay.

3056
01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:02,880
» Oh, okay.

3057
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,270
>> For the cost for that and that is way

3058
01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:05,280
» For the cost for that and that is way

3059
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,920
beyond our budget for this project. So,

3060
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:09,910
>> and I would just make a note on that.

3061
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:09,920
» and I would just make a note on that.

3062
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,159
Doing night work next to a subdivision.

3063
01:44:12,159 --> 01:44:14,239
I think we'll have very a lot of angry

3064
01:44:14,239 --> 01:44:14,960
people.

3065
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:15,910
>> Yeah.

3066
01:44:15,910 --> 01:44:15,920
» Yeah.

3067
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:16,629
>> Okay.

3068
01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:16,639
» Okay.

3069
01:44:16,639 --> 01:44:17,270
>> Well, in that

3070
01:44:17,270 --> 01:44:17,280
» Well, in that

3071
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,510
>> we have Chief Hamilton raising his hand

3072
01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:19,520
» we have Chief Hamilton raising his hand

3073
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:20,960
in the back of the room. He has

3074
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:21,679
something to say.

3075
01:44:21,679 --> 01:44:23,270
>> I was going to say I take my son here in

3076
01:44:23,270 --> 01:44:23,280
» I was going to say I take my son here in

3077
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,600
the morning. So, usually going early,

3078
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:26,960
right before 8:00,

3079
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,830
>> they had set up so

3080
01:44:29,830 --> 01:44:29,840
» they had set up so

3081
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,400
early in the morning when they

3082
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:33,760
start setting those cones up. So that's

3083
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,440
why you don't have anybody at that bar.

3084
01:44:37,440 --> 01:44:37,830
>> Okay.

3085
01:44:37,830 --> 01:44:37,840
» Okay.

3086
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,590
>> Once they get set up and everybody gets

3087
01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:39,600
» Once they get set up and everybody gets

3088
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:44,870
there and you can easily they'll let you

3089
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,679
» have to go back and forth like 7 and

3090
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:50,400
then go back at 8:30 pick up back.

3091
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:50,950
>> Yep.

3092
01:44:50,950 --> 01:44:50,960
» Yep.

3093
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,669
>> And 8:30 it's kind of locked down.

3094
01:44:53,669 --> 01:44:53,679
» And 8:30 it's kind of locked down.

3095
01:44:53,679 --> 01:44:55,590
>> It's up. Everything is up and they're

3096
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:55,600
» It's up. Everything is up and they're

3097
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,320
working but they'll let you.

3098
01:44:58,320 --> 01:44:59,990
>> So if you pull up to the cones they let

3099
01:44:59,990 --> 01:45:00,000
» So if you pull up to the cones they let

3100
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,070
they'll talk to you. electric

3101
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:04,960
line.

3102
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:06,709
>> Did you have your uniform on when they

3103
01:45:06,709 --> 01:45:06,719
» Did you have your uniform on when they

3104
01:45:06,719 --> 01:45:08,320
were letting you go through? Ah, you

3105
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,040
knew I was going to ask you that. Boom.

3106
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,440
Right there. I I would let you go

3107
01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:15,840
through, too. Yeah, I would go on

3108
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,719
through here. You No uniform can't go

3109
01:45:18,719 --> 01:45:20,239
right.

3110
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:23,520
Just Just wanted to throw that in.

3111
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,119
Does anybody else have questions for

3112
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:26,800
them before we move on?

3113
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,030
>> Yeah. Yes, Gretchen. on the Kingsgate

3114
01:45:29,030 --> 01:45:29,040
» Yeah. Yes, Gretchen. on the Kingsgate

3115
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,679
road bridge replacement project. I know

3116
01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:33,840
the contractor we were using went out of

3117
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,960
business. I know Tex's now trying to put

3118
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:38,719
the bid out. Do we have any sense of

3119
01:45:38,719 --> 01:45:40,560
when that closes?

3120
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:46,149
>> No, we don't. Um I emailed um text last

3121
01:45:46,149 --> 01:45:46,159
» No, we don't. Um I emailed um text last

3122
01:45:46,159 --> 01:45:49,360
week um and they don't have any

3123
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:52,800
information. Um they basically told me

3124
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,960
once they do they'll contact

3125
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:55,270
>> okay

3126
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:55,280
» okay

3127
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,430
>> the city but no.

3128
01:45:57,430 --> 01:45:57,440
» the city but no.

3129
01:45:57,440 --> 01:45:59,830
>> And then one other question on the water

3130
01:45:59,830 --> 01:45:59,840
» And then one other question on the water

3131
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:01,520
supply and infrastructure grant.

3132
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:01,910
>> Yes.

3133
01:46:01,910 --> 01:46:01,920
» Yes.

3134
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:03,590
>> Uh house bill 500.

3135
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:03,600
» Uh house bill 500.

3136
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:04,149
>> Yes.

3137
01:46:04,149 --> 01:46:04,159
» Yes.

3138
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:06,550
>> Um I know we have to have it submitted

3139
01:46:06,550 --> 01:46:06,560
» Um I know we have to have it submitted

3140
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,560
by July 30th which

3141
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:11,590
>> it's approaching very soon. It we're

3142
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:11,600
» it's approaching very soon. It we're

3143
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:12,480
confident we're going to get that

3144
01:46:12,480 --> 01:46:13,199
submitted. Correct.

3145
01:46:13,199 --> 01:46:15,910
>> Yes. We just received the the copy of

3146
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:15,920
» Yes. We just received the the copy of

3147
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,080
the application today. We're going

3148
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,320
through it to be ready for submitt.

3149
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:20,629
>> Okay.

3150
01:46:20,629 --> 01:46:20,639
» Okay.

3151
01:46:20,639 --> 01:46:22,229
>> Yes, we everything's ready.

3152
01:46:22,229 --> 01:46:22,239
» Yes, we everything's ready.

3153
01:46:22,239 --> 01:46:25,030
>> All right. Perfect. And that was for up

3154
01:46:25,030 --> 01:46:25,040
» All right. Perfect. And that was for up

3155
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,600
to $10 million and that would be used

3156
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,320
for Creek

3157
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:35,280
water um pipelines and other areas where

3158
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:38,080
we had major water leakage.

3159
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:38,870
>> Yes, that's correct.

3160
01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:38,880
» Yes, that's correct.

3161
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:40,870
>> Right. Mhm.

3162
01:46:40,870 --> 01:46:40,880
» Right. Mhm.

3163
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,159
RC

3164
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:45,109
>> that 2 million includes the 5.5 for the

3165
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:45,119
» that 2 million includes the 5.5 for the

3166
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:47,199
West Oak subdivision.

3167
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:49,510
>> That's going federal. Is that correct?

3168
01:46:49,510 --> 01:46:49,520
» That's going federal. Is that correct?

3169
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:53,669
>> Yeah. So, um it does not um we were

3170
01:46:53,669 --> 01:46:53,679
» Yeah. So, um it does not um we were

3171
01:46:53,679 --> 01:46:57,040
going to um seek an alternate funding

3172
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:58,480
mechanism for that.

3173
01:46:58,480 --> 01:47:00,390
>> That would be federal funding. Correct.

3174
01:47:00,390 --> 01:47:00,400
» That would be federal funding. Correct.

3175
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:01,910
>> Yep. Versus states.

3176
01:47:01,910 --> 01:47:01,920
» Yep. Versus states.

3177
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:02,310
>> Yes.

3178
01:47:02,310 --> 01:47:02,320
» Yes.

3179
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:03,189
>> Based on income.

3180
01:47:03,189 --> 01:47:03,199
» Based on income.

3181
01:47:03,199 --> 01:47:03,669
>> Jean.

3182
01:47:03,669 --> 01:47:03,679
» Jean.

3183
01:47:03,679 --> 01:47:04,870
>> Yes.

3184
01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:04,880
» Yes.

3185
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,750
>> Yeah. Eric actually prompted the

3186
01:47:07,750 --> 01:47:07,760
» Yeah. Eric actually prompted the

3187
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,864
question. There's a electric billboard

3188
01:47:10,864 --> 01:47:12,639
[clears throat] on the service road that

3189
01:47:12,639 --> 01:47:15,760
says take the detour because King's gate

3190
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,239
is closed. Are we renting that or is

3191
01:47:18,239 --> 01:47:20,000
that on text?

3192
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,669
>> Text.

3193
01:47:21,669 --> 01:47:21,679
» Text.

3194
01:47:21,679 --> 01:47:23,270
>> Okay. Well, you might recommend to them

3195
01:47:23,270 --> 01:47:23,280
» Okay. Well, you might recommend to them

3196
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,929
that they put up a permanent side

3197
01:47:25,929 --> 01:47:27,520
[snorts]

3198
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:30,310
>> until that. Yeah. Yeah. That that that's

3199
01:47:30,310 --> 01:47:30,320
» until that. Yeah. Yeah. That that that's

3200
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:33,920
a state project. So, Texot's managing

3201
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:37,119
the project. Um they're inspecting the

3202
01:47:37,119 --> 01:47:39,920
project. So yeah, they're overseeing

3203
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:40,480
everything.

3204
01:47:40,480 --> 01:47:42,470
>> Thank you, Gretchen. We appreciate it.

3205
01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:42,480
» Thank you, Gretchen. We appreciate it.

3206
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:42,960
Thank you.

3207
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:44,870
>> I do want to point out that the uh

3208
01:47:44,870 --> 01:47:44,880
» I do want to point out that the uh

3209
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,639
repaving in front of Brookshshire's all

3210
01:47:46,639 --> 01:47:48,639
the way down to New Energy yesterday for

3211
01:47:48,639 --> 01:47:50,960
Tex dot, we were not alerted for that

3212
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,119
project or was it yesterday? Yeah, just

3213
01:47:53,119 --> 01:47:53,840
yesterday.

3214
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,189
>> Text dot did not tell you they were

3215
01:47:55,189 --> 01:47:55,199
» Text dot did not tell you they were

3216
01:47:55,199 --> 01:47:55,600
doing that.

3217
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,270
>> That is correct. So,

3218
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:57,280
» That is correct. So,

3219
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:58,470
>> wow, that's huge.

3220
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:58,480
» wow, that's huge.

3221
01:47:58,480 --> 01:48:00,629
>> I just it was inconvenient timing like

3222
01:48:00,629 --> 01:48:00,639
» I just it was inconvenient timing like

3223
01:48:00,639 --> 01:48:02,560
all construction is, but the fact that

3224
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,560
like every corridor had something going

3225
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:07,520
on was especially challenging. But we

3226
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:10,320
were not aware of that. So,

3227
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:12,390
>> okay. Okay. We're going to move on to

3228
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:12,400
» okay. Okay. We're going to move on to

3229
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,199
executive session. Uh the next items

3230
01:48:15,199 --> 01:48:16,960
will be discussed in executive session

3231
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:20,960
as allowed by the Texas government code.

3232
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,520
Section 551.071

3233
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,000
consultation with city attorney. Section

3234
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:27,760
551.074 [clears throat]

3235
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:31,600
personnel. Section 551.087

3236
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:34,000
economic development negotiations.

3237
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,679
Number nine is the city of Alo, Texas,

3238
01:48:37,679 --> 01:48:40,800
and the city of Fort Worth, Texas versus

3239
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:44,560
Willow Park. Beline Ranch and Parker

3240
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:49,910
County. Cause number CV26-0175

3241
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:53,040
and Parker County 43rd District Court.

3242
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,239
Number 10, home rule charter and charter

3243
01:48:56,239 --> 01:48:58,960
commission legal issues. 11, police

3244
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:02,480
chief position. 12 economic development

3245
01:49:02,480 --> 01:49:05,840
negotiations with Bandidas Willow Park.

3246
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:19,910
The time now is 7:47. Thank you.

3247
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:23,280
Okay, we're going to reconvene into open

3248
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:27,440
session. The time now is 9:15.

3249
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:28,800
Does the council wish to make any

3250
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,159
motions related to the closed session?

3251
01:49:32,159 --> 01:49:33,990
>> No action.

3252
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:34,000
» No action.

3253
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,990
>> Okay. No one has anything.

3254
01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:36,000
» Okay. No one has anything.

3255
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,230
>> Hang on.

3256
01:49:38,230 --> 01:49:38,240
» Hang on.

3257
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:39,280
[clears throat]

3258
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:42,950
>> No. Are we closing out the as of today

3259
01:49:42,950 --> 01:49:42,960
» No. Are we closing out the as of today

3260
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,639
at 5?

3261
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:45,430
>> Yes.

3262
01:49:45,430 --> 01:49:45,440
» Yes.

3263
01:49:45,440 --> 01:49:45,910
>> Yes.

3264
01:49:45,910 --> 01:49:45,920
» Yes.

3265
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:46,390
>> Okay.

3266
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:46,400
» Okay.

3267
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,070
>> So, we need to go and vote on that. You

3268
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:48,080
» So, we need to go and vote on that. You

3269
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:49,040
want to go ahead and do that?

3270
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:49,669
>> Yeah.

3271
01:49:49,669 --> 01:49:49,679
» Yeah.

3272
01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:53,840
Okay. So, we have a motion to close the

3273
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:57,119
uh resumeumés out off TML at 5:00 pm

3274
01:49:57,119 --> 01:49:59,199
today. So, do you want to make a motion?

3275
01:49:59,199 --> 01:50:02,149
>> Uh, yes. Uh, close out any more resumes

3276
01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:02,159
» Uh, yes. Uh, close out any more resumes

3277
01:50:02,159 --> 01:50:04,080
coming in after 5:00 today, unless

3278
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,480
they're postdated, I guess, or the email

3279
01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:07,920
time stamp.

3280
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:08,229
>> Huh.

3281
01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:08,239
» Huh.

3282
01:50:08,239 --> 01:50:09,189
>> Okay. Do we have

3283
01:50:09,189 --> 01:50:09,199
» Okay. Do we have

3284
01:50:09,199 --> 01:50:11,030
>> Yeah. For I'm sorry, for police chief.

3285
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:11,040
» Yeah. For I'm sorry, for police chief.

3286
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:11,760
Yeah, I guess we

3287
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:13,270
>> police chief. Yeah. Do we have a second

3288
01:50:13,270 --> 01:50:13,280
» police chief. Yeah. Do we have a second

3289
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:14,159
on that?

3290
01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:15,990
>> I'll second. Oh, go ahead. No, you got

3291
01:50:15,990 --> 01:50:16,000
» I'll second. Oh, go ahead. No, you got

3292
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:16,880
it.

3293
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,189
>> Nathan's going to second. Okay. All in

3294
01:50:19,189 --> 01:50:19,199
» Nathan's going to second. Okay. All in

3295
01:50:19,199 --> 01:50:22,960
favor? There you go.

3296
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:26,149
>> Okay. So, item 13 is city manager

3297
01:50:26,149 --> 01:50:26,159
» Okay. So, item 13 is city manager

3298
01:50:26,159 --> 01:50:29,199
comments, response, reaction to the

3299
01:50:29,199 --> 01:50:30,320
meeting.

3300
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,149
>> No, ma'am. Just the uh community

3301
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:32,159
» No, ma'am. Just the uh community

3302
01:50:32,159 --> 01:50:35,600
interest about Bearcat Nation is 101 is

3303
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,159
the back to school event that is at the

3304
01:50:38,159 --> 01:50:40,480
Alto High School that is on Saturday,

3305
01:50:40,480 --> 01:50:42,480
August 1st from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon.

3306
01:50:42,480 --> 01:50:45,600
And so it is just an event for uh back

3307
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:47,920
to school that the city hosts uh excuse

3308
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:49,760
me that the that the school hosts the

3309
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:52,639
city will be there as we are every year.

3310
01:50:52,639 --> 01:50:54,320
And then national night out again just

3311
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:55,679
to remind you put on your calendar is

3312
01:50:55,679 --> 01:50:58,320
October 6th of 2026 at the district of

3313
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,199
Willow Park. And then our university

3314
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:03,360
schedule and our next will be in

3315
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:04,960
September. So more news to come for

3316
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:06,400
that.

3317
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:07,990
>> Okay. Thank you.

3318
01:51:07,990 --> 01:51:08,000
» Okay. Thank you.

3319
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,189
>> All right. Thank you.

3320
01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:11,199
» All right. Thank you.

3321
01:51:11,199 --> 01:51:14,390
>> Okay. Number 14 is mayor, city council

3322
01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:14,400
» Okay. Number 14 is mayor, city council

3323
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,119
comments.

3324
01:51:17,119 --> 01:51:20,080
Anybody have any comments before we move

3325
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:20,639
on?

3326
01:51:20,639 --> 01:51:24,709
>> Yeah, just a reminder of our uh or my

3327
01:51:24,709 --> 01:51:24,719
» Yeah, just a reminder of our uh or my

3328
01:51:24,719 --> 01:51:28,320
event, I guess, is the uh C coffee with

3329
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:30,639
Councilman. That is August 7th. That's

3330
01:51:30,639 --> 01:51:32,960
that first Friday of the month. 8:30

3331
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,719
starts right at 8:30 a.m. and ends right

3332
01:51:36,719 --> 01:51:39,440
at 9:30. I want everybody's hour um for

3333
01:51:39,440 --> 01:51:40,560
that day. So,

3334
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:42,950
>> okay. Anybody's welcome to join. Open

3335
01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:42,960
» okay. Anybody's welcome to join. Open

3336
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,280
conversation. No agenda. Love to see you

3337
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:46,159
there.

3338
01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:48,790
>> Okay. Thank you. All right. Number 15,

3339
01:51:48,790 --> 01:51:48,800
» Okay. Thank you. All right. Number 15,

3340
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,760
future agenda request

3341
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:53,760
by mayor and city council. I have some.

3342
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:55,280
Do y'all have some?

3343
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:58,390
>> We don't have agenda anymore.

3344
01:51:58,390 --> 01:51:58,400
» We don't have agenda anymore.

3345
01:51:58,400 --> 01:51:59,030
>> H

3346
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:59,040
» H

3347
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:00,550
>> We don't have that on the agenda.

3348
01:52:00,550 --> 01:52:00,560
» We don't have that on the agenda.

3349
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:05,510
>> Yeah, it's my 15, but

3350
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:10,310
» you didn't put that on there.

3351
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:14,629
Dina, is that on the agenda?

3352
01:52:14,639 --> 01:52:16,639
» You don't have it this time. Okay.

3353
01:52:16,639 --> 01:52:17,910
>> Number 15 is not there.

3354
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:17,920
» Number 15 is not there.

3355
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,589
>> All I've got 14.

3356
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:19,599
» All I've got 14.

3357
01:52:19,599 --> 01:52:21,109
>> All right. I'm used to putting that on

3358
01:52:21,109 --> 01:52:21,119
» All right. I'm used to putting that on

3359
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:23,679
the end. So, I guess, uh, we'll be

3360
01:52:23,679 --> 01:52:26,159
turning them in to you, Dina, as our

3361
01:52:26,159 --> 01:52:27,520
request.

3362
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,550
>> So, um, moving on to adjourn. Is there a

3363
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:30,560
» So, um, moving on to adjourn. Is there a

3364
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:31,840
motion to adjurnn?

3365
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:33,109
>> I move we adjourn.

3366
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:33,119
» I move we adjourn.

3367
01:52:33,119 --> 01:52:34,470
>> We have a second.

3368
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:34,480
» We have a second.

3369
01:52:34,480 --> 01:52:35,910
>> Second.

3370
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:35,920
» Second.

3371
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,629
>> Scott's first. Second. All in favor? Hi.

3372
01:52:38,629 --> 01:52:38,639
» Scott's first. Second. All in favor? Hi.

3373
01:52:38,639 --> 01:52:40,790
>> There you go. Good night. Thank you very

3374
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:40,800
» There you go. Good night. Thank you very

3375
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:43,800
much.