It's a bald spot now. [laughter] >> Okay, you're live.
» All right, we're going to call this meeting to order.
So, first thing is looks like we've got a quorum
and um we're going to open it up for public comments and we have one resident
wanting to speak. >> So,
Terra Stark. >> Yes.
» Good evening. How are you? >> Hello.
» Good. >> My name is Tara Stark and I live at 2004
Ranch House Road which is just north of the property that is being developed.
Grant was so kind as to call me earlier today and we had a a little discussion
and I got to at least share my true hurt gut feelings about um the situation um
knowing that they have met all the technical legal aspects that they have
to have the development approved. Um you know I've lived there 22 years. Um I
know Darwin is here and he represents Miss Rita Flower on the other side and I
don't know how many decades she has lived there but [clears throat] um
you know when we purchased these properties we purchased them as ranch
heads and that was the reason for moving here and moving to Willow Park a place
to have a few cows or horses and that was the whole character and the love of
being here and I know the world is changing and everything is changing
drastically and I know that this will has already been basically pre-approved
and they've met all their requirements. I think our um reason for wanting to be
here and speak is that we want our love of the land to at least
be heard and that it matters to us.
Rita feels the same way. Yeah. I talked to her son Gary today and the Darwin and
that they feel the same way that they moved here for the purpose of the land.
Um, we know all the land around Willow Park is changing drastically and it's
just coming and encroaching on us and we know it's coming. We just didn't expect
it to quite be right on top of us. Um, we're the only two neighbors that this
affects. I know they talk a lot about the fact that it'll be a gated community
that'll be high-end homes and that it will increase the value of our
properties. We don't think so. Um, but that's our personal belief about it. Um,
we want to be a great neighbor. Um, I know that I did let Grant know that I
would wish for there to be a solid fence. Um, just simply because I don't
want to see people in my space. That's why that's been the glory of living
where I've lived. It's the quiet, the peace, and the nature and the deer and
even coats and the cows walking by. Um, and that's a lot different when there's
there's a lot of other people. Um uh I know this is not the place to address
this, but I did want to go ahead and talk about the fencing or the
possibility of uh changing lighting such that the light poles are only so high
and that the lighting not shine into other homes. Uh things such as that that
can be controlled. I know we can't control what other people do um and what
they might place in their yards, but I there are a few uh minor things that can
be accommodated possibly such that we can be great neighbors together and to
where it doesn't where we don't feel like we lose our peace um just to
accommodate others moving in. Uh I know it's going to I love the big oak tree. I
hope that's not leaving. Okay, thank you. Um, and so, um, that's really all I
had to say is just that's that's my heart. Um, it's it's been a stressful
time to know that's changing. We know the begs will change one day, but that's
yours and it's different. It's expanded. So, um,
yeah, that's really kind of all I can say.
» Thank you. Thank you so much. >> Thank you.
I guess we don't have any other public comments. So, um,
first thing we need to do is, uh, approve the, uh, planning and zoning
minutes from June the 16th.
» I'd like to hear >> I wasn't here either.
» I'll make a motion to approve. >> Okay. I've got a motion on the floor. Do
I have a second? >> I second that.
» All in favor? I have it. Um the second uh agenda item is the
discussion and action to consider approval of a pre preliminary plat for
Alamita Estates located on Ranch House Road being a subdivision of a 12.032
acre track of land out of the BBB and CRR
co-ervey abstract number 147 in Parker County, Texas.
» Yes. Good evening commissioners. This land is currently zoned R1 and has a
current residence that is not occupied. The developer plans to remove it and lay
out a thoughtful R1 development with custom home builds, a little over 1 acre
lots each, uh 3,500 ft minimum homes, target price of 1 million plus. The
developer has been in close contact with the city about the plat related
comments. um has been very amendable and and changed uh with or revised without
hesitation. Um it is an R1 zoning. It meets city street standards and complies
with the future land use plan. Um the developer here if you have any questions
uh and there's a presentation attached if you go ahead and take a look.
» Oh, let me see if I can >> or sideways. Yeah,
let me just do it sideways. >> Little rotation.
» There we go. >> Well, uh, first of all, I guess I think
I've had a chance to speak with you a couple of times on a couple other
projects. We were working on the tractor supply and a handful other projects. So,
that was under a different umbrella with uh Barco and Kevin and Bryson Adams and
some projects we worked. But, u, my name is Grant Reed. Um, this is the Alama
Estates project. We've been working with Chelsea and Tony and the staff on this
one for probably about four or so months now. Um kind of doing a lot of drainage
studies on this project. There is a significant amount of flood on the
southern end of the property. Um the project was originally, you know, it
came on the market and was being advertised um for much smaller lots and
they were trying to find a way to get sewer down there and do a whole bunch of
things. And at one day we kind of looked up and we said, "Man, I think you know
there's a lot of really interesting aesthetic features of this piece of land
and obviously extremely sympathetic with Terra. I've known her for a couple years
and talked to her earlier today. Um, and you our goal in this project is really
to try to keep it as it is today as much as we can, stay within conforming zone
use that's existing in place. Um, and still try to keep the integrity of the
land. Um, I I I you know, hearing Tara speak, it's it's a tough thing and I I
do feel for her and our goal in this situation is we know there's a lot more
people that still want to come and enjoy this land. Um, I feel like we're
offering a very nice product that's going to be larger acreage. We're going
to try to maintain as many of those trees that are possible. Um, there's a
large oak tree right on the front, which is kind of a mimic of what our picture
is here for the Alama Estates. Um, and a big row of trees right down the
driveway, which using a little bit of AI, I found out that Alama in Spanish is
row of trees. So, that was kind of the the namesake there that we went with.
Um, and so, like I said, it's, you know, a gated community. Um the the main
things that we've worked through and questions, I know a lot of that's going
to come down to the drainage. Um so the full flood study has been done and
reviewed um by staff and by Gretchen internally. Um we have determined that
you know based on flows and everything we should be meeting um everything
according to that and obviously we'll go through a lot more of that detail with
the site development permit and as we go through the final design for what that
outflow structure will look like. But um happy to answer any questions you guys
have. >> Thank you.
Does anybody have any any questions? >> Um I I guess uh to to
reiterate what she was saying about the lighting point straight down.
» So for a project I >> mean at least for the street
» correct. So, a project of this size, um, and I really, it's it's a small enough
project where we really wouldn't have to go in with street lights. And I it's
that is not a that's something I'm more than amanable to not have a street
light. At the end of the day, it would be one street light at the end of the
culde-sac. Um, that's more of a partnership with the power company,
which would be Encore. And if the city would require that or want that within
the subdivision, it's a small enough project. I don't see it really bringing
a lot of value with a small community like this. you know, we're going to
probably have some small, you know, landscape lighting where we have
entryway monuments that will kind of light up this not very, you know,
there'll be kind of more of a dimmer in the in the shrubs and grass kind of
lighting up on the rock monument structures. Um, that's probably the
extent of the lighting that we'll have there. But in terms of street light,
we're we're more than imable to remove that, not have any street lights within
the subdivision. It's just if that conflict with anything of the city
ordinances, I'm not sure about. >> She's also about the back porch lights
in your claim. >> What about that's also what she's
saying. Yeah. >> What about landscaping? So, I'm very
familiar with the property. I live on the back side of Ful Park and I'm a
fellow resident with land. So, I totally understand and sympathize with her
because I I'm staring at the future in front of me and eventually it'll be
rooftops. >> Yes. Um,
are you able to mitigate some of the nuisance of having a bunch of rooftops
right on Ranch House Road, which is a main artery for Willow Park, and then
maybe add some landscaping, maybe add some more trees around the property, the
perimeter, so it kind of blocks >> the community, the development, so it
doesn't look at >> views on your face that you're building,
you know, what was it? Uh, 12 >> 10 lots.
» 10 lots, I'm sorry. um
» kind of disguise it a little bit, make it more to where it blends with
environment and nature and so forth. So they're not staring at just blank walls
and rooftops. >> Yes, sir. Um so in regards to
landscaping, what we currently have plans, we have, you know, when I say
landscaping, that's kind of a little bit due to hardcaping as well. Um you know,
the current plan is there's a very nice kind of pipe fence there. So our kind of
plan was to kind of completely refurbish and retrofit that fence and we want to
keep that in place cuz we like, you know, it's ranch house road. It has a
nice ranch feel to it. So, kind of going through there and kind of kind of sand
blasting, repainting that. And then we'll be building kind of some rock uh
monument entryways, kind of using more. And I don't have, you know, full
aesthetics and drawings yet just done to that.
» But we'll definitely be landscaping all along through there. Um, as you're
familiar on that road, there's that big row of trees that comes down right down
the stretch there. >> Right.
» And so, the goal with that is we offset our road specifically just south of that
to try to minimize any tree losses there. We will have to remove a few of
those trees because they're so tight together. You wouldn't be able to have a
driveway access to those lots, >> right?
» But so those trees will really work. We're hoping to kind of keep that buffer
line kind of coming down that'll be kind of running east and west there. Um and I
I took spoke with Tara earlier and I don't want to, you know, commit to
anything, you know, hard, but I definitely said I said, "Hey, you know,
we can we can find a way to work some of that." I know she had mentioned about,
hey, building a masonary wall. I don't know if we can afford that within our
budget, but I'm definitely open to, hey, we can you can do a lot of uh evergreen
landscaping and stuff like that along that boundary to kind of protect her.
Right. >> Um like I said, I've known Terry for a
long time, so want to try to be as best neighbor we can be. I I can't promise
you what that is to date, but we'll be working on that path to continue working
there. >> Yeah. I mean, a nice green fence, so
it's it's better than nothing. So, >> thank you.
Uh on on the drainage, I see there's a looks like there's a tank on the south
central side. Um is that going to are y'all going to level it? I mean, as far
as drainage goes, are you going to try to push it off to the bags to that?
» So that all that water flow is kind of coming from the bags down to us. There's
an existing kind of bridge right there. And so there's one 51in culvert there
that's existing, >> right? Um based like I said this not
don't want to speak on the engineering side but based on our full flood study
that was done in drainage analysis to establish all the base flood elevations
for this deal. Um the overall full buildout I think we had a 7 MCF increase
in flow. So our you know b based on the rules and obligations we have to make
sure that there's no increased flow downstream. So we'll be maintaining that
pond as kind of a natural pond to slow down water there. And there will be more
of a, it's not been fully designed yet, but they're going to design a kind of a
weird dam or outflow structure there to kind of make sure we're not impacting
anyone downstream of us while also kind of maintaining the aesthetic pond that's
there. >> Okay. So, like in lot 8, 9.
» Yes. >> Back end will still be
» pond. >> And I have a bigger map here. It's kind
of an 11 by 17. That's like I said, they're conceptual construction plans at
this point. Kind of shows that. But 8 and N will back up that 89.
» Yeah. one. My bad. Let's just have somebody over
here.
» And basically the street is just going to be a straight culde-sac.
» Straight cold. >> No curbs.
» No curb. >> Straight up street.
» It will be to center city standards in terms of for a private drive. So we'll
have a 50ft rideway with asphalt streets that'll be a bar ditch.
» Okay. We'll have the I believe the current plan is for a 6-in water line
coming down the south end of that with fiber and other utilities as well.
» Okay. >> Um I I would really appreciate it on her
her request if you could put some thick cedars
» or I know a privacy fence would be uh as yours going. Some people will take care
of it, some people won't. >> Yes, sir. Um, so the trees might be the
best option because I I see your driveways right there down the the
border there. So I I get her concern. >> Yeah. And and abs like I said, I need to
run some numbers on that stuff, you know, obviously back.
» No, I I agree. Yeah, >> definitely definitely wanting to find
whatever the best solution is there. >> And is there any limits as far as what
the builder's going to build like twostory big big homes? So with this
with projects like this, you know, different than some of these other
larger master paint communities, you know, we're kind of working more with
kind of our local semicustom to custom builders um through different guy
different groups that are kind of more alto central based and hood county based
versus these small lot subdivisions. Those other builders are kind of come in
and pre-by. So we've got a list of about four or five guys that are committed,
but they're wanting to wait to see they like to see the final product and
they'll kind of they'll design the house based on what their existing plans are
or kind of put a custom plan together. So, we're anticipating a 3500 foot
minimum there. Um, but should more than likely all be hitting north of the
million-doll kind of price point. >> Okay.
» That's not hard to do right now in this market.
» Some days it's good, some days it's not so much. You never know.
» She knows. >> Yeah.
» And I assume the uh a exemption will be grandfathered in for these new people.
» No, sir. Um, so I believe the minimum requirement for a exemption Parker
County I think is 10. I think there are some exceptions for 5 acre tracks to get
bees and certain things like that. But with a 1acre track, you would you would
not meet the minimum standard on that. So the egg exemption would go away.
We'll be required to pay the roll back taxes on that Parker County.
» Okay. [snorts] [clears throat]
» Thank you.
» I'm good. Thank you. >> Thank you.
» Thank you guys. >> Anything else? Anyone?
All right. Well, uh, do we have a um a motion on this
preliminary plaque?
That was just
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Are you waiting on me?
» I motion to move forward on Alama Estates
on Ranch House Road. >> All right. Do I have a second?
I'll second it. All right. All in favor? All right. The eyes have it.
And I guess that's um Is that it? All right. We're journ.
» Thanks everyone for coming. Thank you. >> Thank you.
Facebook. >> Uh, yes. As soon as you return, it
should stop. >> Yeah.