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It's a bald spot now. [laughter]
>> Okay, you're live.

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» All right, we're going to call this
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So, first thing is looks like we've got
a quorum

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and um we're going to open it up for
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wanting to speak.
>> So,

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Terra Stark.
>> Yes.

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» Good evening. How are you?
>> Hello.

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» Good.
>> My name is Tara Stark and I live at 2004

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Ranch House Road which is just north of
the property that is being developed.

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Grant was so kind as to call me earlier
today and we had a a little discussion

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and I got to at least share my true hurt
gut feelings about um the situation um

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knowing that they have met all the
technical legal aspects that they have

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to have the development approved. Um you
know I've lived there 22 years. Um I

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know Darwin is here and he represents
Miss Rita Flower on the other side and I

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don't know how many decades she has
lived there but [clears throat] um

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you know when we purchased these
properties we purchased them as ranch

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heads and that was the reason for moving
here and moving to Willow Park a place

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to have a few cows or horses and that
was the whole character and the love of

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being here and I know the world is
changing and everything is changing

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drastically and I know that this will
has already been basically pre-approved

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and they've met all their requirements.
I think our um reason for wanting to be

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here and speak is that
we want our love of the land to at least

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be heard
and that it matters to us.

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Rita feels the same way. Yeah. I talked
to her son Gary today and the Darwin and

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that they feel the same way that they
moved here for the purpose of the land.

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Um, we know all the land around Willow
Park is changing drastically and it's

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just coming and encroaching on us and we
know it's coming. We just didn't expect

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it to quite be right on top of us. Um,
we're the only two neighbors that this

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affects. I know they talk a lot about
the fact that it'll be a gated community

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that'll be high-end homes and that it
will increase the value of our

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properties. We don't think so. Um, but
that's our personal belief about it. Um,

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we want to be a great neighbor. Um, I
know that I did let Grant know that I

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would wish for there to be a solid
fence. Um, just simply because I don't

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want to see people in my space. That's
why that's been the glory of living

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where I've lived. It's the quiet, the
peace, and the nature and the deer and

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even coats and the cows walking by. Um,
and that's a lot different when there's

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there's a lot of other people. Um uh I
know this is not the place to address

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this, but I did want to go ahead and
talk about the fencing or the

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possibility of uh changing lighting such
that the light poles are only so high

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and that the lighting not shine into
other homes. Uh things such as that that

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can be controlled. I know we can't
control what other people do um and what

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they might place in their yards, but I
there are a few uh minor things that can

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be accommodated possibly such that we
can be great neighbors together and to

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where it doesn't where we don't feel
like we lose our peace um just to

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accommodate others moving in. Uh I know
it's going to I love the big oak tree. I

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hope that's not leaving. Okay, thank
you. Um, and so, um, that's really all I

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had to say is just that's that's my
heart. Um, it's it's been a stressful

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time to know that's changing. We know
the begs will change one day, but that's

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yours and it's different. It's expanded.
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yeah, that's really kind of all I can
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» Thank you. Thank you so much.
>> Thank you.

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I guess we don't have any other public
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first thing we need to do is, uh,
approve the, uh, planning and zoning

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minutes from June the 16th.

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» I'd like to hear
>> I wasn't here either.

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» I'll make a motion to approve.
>> Okay. I've got a motion on the floor. Do

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I have a second?
>> I second that.

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» All in favor? I have it.
Um the second uh agenda item is the

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discussion and action to consider
approval of a pre preliminary plat for

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Alamita Estates located on Ranch House
Road being a subdivision of a 12.032

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acre track of land out of the BBB and
CRR

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co-ervey abstract number 147 in Parker
County, Texas.

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» Yes. Good evening commissioners. This
land is currently zoned R1 and has a

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current residence that is not occupied.
The developer plans to remove it and lay

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out a thoughtful R1 development with
custom home builds, a little over 1 acre

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lots each, uh 3,500 ft minimum homes,
target price of 1 million plus. The

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developer has been in close contact with
the city about the plat related

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comments. um has been very amendable and
and changed uh with or revised without

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hesitation. Um it is an R1 zoning. It
meets city street standards and complies

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with the future land use plan. Um the
developer here if you have any questions

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uh and there's a presentation attached
if you go ahead and take a look.

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» Oh, let me see if I can
>> or sideways. Yeah,

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let me just do it sideways.
>> Little rotation.

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» There we go.
>> Well, uh, first of all, I guess I think

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I've had a chance to speak with you a
couple of times on a couple other

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projects. We were working on the tractor
supply and a handful other projects. So,

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that was under a different umbrella with
uh Barco and Kevin and Bryson Adams and

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some projects we worked. But, u, my name
is Grant Reed. Um, this is the Alama

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Estates project. We've been working with
Chelsea and Tony and the staff on this

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one for probably about four or so months
now. Um kind of doing a lot of drainage

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studies on this project. There is a
significant amount of flood on the

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southern end of the property. Um the
project was originally, you know, it

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came on the market and was being
advertised um for much smaller lots and

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they were trying to find a way to get
sewer down there and do a whole bunch of

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things. And at one day we kind of looked
up and we said, "Man, I think you know

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there's a lot of really interesting
aesthetic features of this piece of land

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and obviously extremely sympathetic with
Terra. I've known her for a couple years

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and talked to her earlier today. Um, and
you our goal in this project is really

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to try to keep it as it is today as much
as we can, stay within conforming zone

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use that's existing in place. Um, and
still try to keep the integrity of the

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land. Um, I I I you know, hearing Tara
speak, it's it's a tough thing and I I

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do feel for her and our goal in this
situation is we know there's a lot more

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people that still want to come and enjoy
this land. Um, I feel like we're

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offering a very nice product that's
going to be larger acreage. We're going

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to try to maintain as many of those
trees that are possible. Um, there's a

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large oak tree right on the front, which
is kind of a mimic of what our picture

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is here for the Alama Estates. Um, and a
big row of trees right down the

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driveway, which using a little bit of
AI, I found out that Alama in Spanish is

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row of trees. So, that was kind of the
the namesake there that we went with.

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Um, and so, like I said, it's, you know,
a gated community. Um the the main

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things that we've worked through and
questions, I know a lot of that's going

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to come down to the drainage. Um so the
full flood study has been done and

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reviewed um by staff and by Gretchen
internally. Um we have determined that

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you know based on flows and everything
we should be meeting um everything

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according to that and obviously we'll go
through a lot more of that detail with

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the site development permit and as we go
through the final design for what that

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outflow structure will look like. But um
happy to answer any questions you guys

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Does anybody have any any questions?
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reiterate what she was saying about the
lighting point straight down.

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» So for a project I
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» correct. So, a project of this size, um,
and I really, it's it's a small enough

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project where we really wouldn't have to
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that is not a that's something I'm more
than amanable to not have a street

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light. At the end of the day, it would
be one street light at the end of the

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culde-sac. Um, that's more of a
partnership with the power company,

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which would be Encore. And if the city
would require that or want that within

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the subdivision, it's a small enough
project. I don't see it really bringing

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a lot of value with a small community
like this. you know, we're going to

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probably have some small, you know,
landscape lighting where we have

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entryway monuments that will kind of
light up this not very, you know,

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there'll be kind of more of a dimmer in
the in the shrubs and grass kind of

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lighting up on the rock monument
structures. Um, that's probably the

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extent of the lighting that we'll have
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we're we're more than imable to remove
that, not have any street lights within

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the subdivision. It's just if that
conflict with anything of the city

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ordinances, I'm not sure about.
>> She's also about the back porch lights

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in your claim.
>> What about that's also what she's

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saying. Yeah.
>> What about landscaping? So, I'm very

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familiar with the property. I live on
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fellow resident with land. So, I totally
understand and sympathize with her

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because I I'm staring at the future in
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rooftops.
>> Yes. Um,

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are you able to mitigate some of the
nuisance of having a bunch of rooftops

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right on Ranch House Road, which is a
main artery for Willow Park, and then

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maybe add some landscaping, maybe add
some more trees around the property, the

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perimeter, so it kind of blocks
>> the community, the development, so it

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doesn't look at
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you know, what was it? Uh, 12
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» 10 lots, I'm sorry.
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» kind of disguise it a little bit, make
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environment and nature and so forth. So
they're not staring at just blank walls

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and rooftops.
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landscaping, what we currently have
plans, we have, you know, when I say

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landscaping, that's kind of a little bit
due to hardcaping as well. Um you know,

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the current plan is there's a very nice
kind of pipe fence there. So our kind of

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plan was to kind of completely refurbish
and retrofit that fence and we want to

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keep that in place cuz we like, you
know, it's ranch house road. It has a

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nice ranch feel to it. So, kind of going
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blasting, repainting that. And then
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monument entryways, kind of using more.
And I don't have, you know, full

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aesthetics and drawings yet just done to
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» But we'll definitely be landscaping all
along through there. Um, as you're

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familiar on that road, there's that big
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the stretch there.
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» And so, the goal with that is we offset
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to try to minimize any tree losses
there. We will have to remove a few of

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those trees because they're so tight
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driveway access to those lots,
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» But so those trees will really work.
We're hoping to kind of keep that buffer

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line kind of coming down that'll be kind
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I took spoke with Tara earlier and I
don't want to, you know, commit to

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anything, you know, hard, but I
definitely said I said, "Hey, you know,

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we can we can find a way to work some of
that." I know she had mentioned about,

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hey, building a masonary wall. I don't
know if we can afford that within our

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budget, but I'm definitely open to, hey,
we can you can do a lot of uh evergreen

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landscaping and stuff like that along
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Right.
>> Um like I said, I've known Terry for a

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long time, so want to try to be as best
neighbor we can be. I I can't promise

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you what that is to date, but we'll be
working on that path to continue working

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there.
>> Yeah. I mean, a nice green fence, so

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it's it's better than nothing. So,
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Uh on on the drainage, I see there's a
looks like there's a tank on the south

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central side. Um is that going to are
y'all going to level it? I mean, as far

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as drainage goes, are you going to try
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» So that all that water flow is kind of
coming from the bags down to us. There's

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an existing kind of bridge right there.
And so there's one 51in culvert there

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that's existing,
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don't want to speak on the engineering
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that was done in drainage analysis to
establish all the base flood elevations

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for this deal. Um the overall full
buildout I think we had a 7 MCF increase

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in flow. So our you know b based on the
rules and obligations we have to make

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sure that there's no increased flow
downstream. So we'll be maintaining that

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pond as kind of a natural pond to slow
down water there. And there will be more

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of a, it's not been fully designed yet,
but they're going to design a kind of a

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weird dam or outflow structure there to
kind of make sure we're not impacting

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anyone downstream of us while also kind
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there.
>> Okay. So, like in lot 8, 9.

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» Yes.
>> Back end will still be

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» pond.
>> And I have a bigger map here. It's kind

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of an 11 by 17. That's like I said,
they're conceptual construction plans at

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this point. Kind of shows that. But 8
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» Yeah. one.
My bad. Let's just have somebody over

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» And basically the street is just going
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» Straight cold.
>> No curbs.

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» No curb.
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» It will be to center city standards in
terms of for a private drive. So we'll

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have a 50ft rideway with asphalt streets
that'll be a bar ditch.

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» Okay. We'll have the I believe the
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coming down the south end of that with
fiber and other utilities as well.

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» Okay.
>> Um I I would really appreciate it on her

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her request if you could put some thick
cedars

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» or I know a privacy fence would be uh as
yours going. Some people will take care

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of it, some people won't.
>> Yes, sir. Um, so the trees might be the

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best option because I I see your
driveways right there down the the

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border there. So I I get her concern.
>> Yeah. And and abs like I said, I need to

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run some numbers on that stuff, you
know, obviously back.

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» No, I I agree. Yeah,
>> definitely definitely wanting to find

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whatever the best solution is there.
>> And is there any limits as far as what

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the builder's going to build like
twostory big big homes? So with this

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with projects like this, you know,
different than some of these other

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larger master paint communities, you
know, we're kind of working more with

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kind of our local semicustom to custom
builders um through different guy

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different groups that are kind of more
alto central based and hood county based

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versus these small lot subdivisions.
Those other builders are kind of come in

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and pre-by. So we've got a list of about
four or five guys that are committed,

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but they're wanting to wait to see they
like to see the final product and

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they'll kind of they'll design the house
based on what their existing plans are

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or kind of put a custom plan together.
So, we're anticipating a 3500 foot

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minimum there. Um, but should more than
likely all be hitting north of the

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million-doll kind of price point.
>> Okay.

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» That's not hard to do right now in this
market.

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» Some days it's good, some days it's not
so much. You never know.

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» She knows.
>> Yeah.

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» And I assume the uh a exemption will be
grandfathered in for these new people.

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» No, sir. Um, so I believe the minimum
requirement for a exemption Parker

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County I think is 10. I think there are
some exceptions for 5 acre tracks to get

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bees and certain things like that. But
with a 1acre track, you would you would

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not meet the minimum standard on that.
So the egg exemption would go away.

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We'll be required to pay the roll back
taxes on that Parker County.

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» Okay. [snorts]
[clears throat]

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» Thank you.

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» I'm good. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank you guys.
>> Anything else? Anyone?

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All right. Well,
uh, do we have a um a motion on this

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preliminary plaque?

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That was just

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Oh, yeah, that's right.

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Are you waiting on me?

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» I motion to move forward on Alama
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on Ranch House Road.
>> All right. Do I have a second?

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I'll second it. All right. All in favor?
All right. The eyes have it.

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And I guess that's um
Is that it? All right. We're journ.

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» Thanks everyone for coming. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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Facebook.
>> Uh, yes. As soon as you return, it

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should stop.
>> Yeah.