[5:01] It's a bald spot now. [laughter]
>> Okay, you're live.
[5:05] » All right, we're going to call this
meeting to order.
[5:11] So, first thing is looks like we've got
a quorum
[5:15] and um we're going to open it up for
public comments and we have one resident
[5:20] wanting to speak.
>> So,
[5:24] Terra Stark.
>> Yes.
[5:27] » Good evening. How are you?
>> Hello.
[5:28] » Good.
>> My name is Tara Stark and I live at 2004
[5:32] Ranch House Road which is just north of
the property that is being developed.
[5:36] Grant was so kind as to call me earlier
today and we had a a little discussion
[5:41] and I got to at least share my true hurt
gut feelings about um the situation um
[5:48] knowing that they have met all the
technical legal aspects that they have
[5:52] to have the development approved. Um you
know I've lived there 22 years. Um I
[5:59] know Darwin is here and he represents
Miss Rita Flower on the other side and I
[6:04] don't know how many decades she has
lived there but [clears throat] um
[6:10] you know when we purchased these
properties we purchased them as ranch
[6:13] heads and that was the reason for moving
here and moving to Willow Park a place
[6:17] to have a few cows or horses and that
was the whole character and the love of
[6:22] being here and I know the world is
changing and everything is changing
[6:26] drastically and I know that this will
has already been basically pre-approved
[6:31] and they've met all their requirements.
I think our um reason for wanting to be
[6:36] here and speak is that
we want our love of the land to at least
[6:42] be heard
and that it matters to us.
[6:51] Rita feels the same way. Yeah. I talked
to her son Gary today and the Darwin and
[6:56] that they feel the same way that they
moved here for the purpose of the land.
[7:03] Um, we know all the land around Willow
Park is changing drastically and it's
[7:07] just coming and encroaching on us and we
know it's coming. We just didn't expect
[7:11] it to quite be right on top of us. Um,
we're the only two neighbors that this
[7:15] affects. I know they talk a lot about
the fact that it'll be a gated community
[7:19] that'll be high-end homes and that it
will increase the value of our
[7:24] properties. We don't think so. Um, but
that's our personal belief about it. Um,
[7:30] we want to be a great neighbor. Um, I
know that I did let Grant know that I
[7:35] would wish for there to be a solid
fence. Um, just simply because I don't
[7:41] want to see people in my space. That's
why that's been the glory of living
[7:46] where I've lived. It's the quiet, the
peace, and the nature and the deer and
[7:50] even coats and the cows walking by. Um,
and that's a lot different when there's
[7:56] there's a lot of other people. Um uh I
know this is not the place to address
[8:02] this, but I did want to go ahead and
talk about the fencing or the
[8:05] possibility of uh changing lighting such
that the light poles are only so high
[8:11] and that the lighting not shine into
other homes. Uh things such as that that
[8:16] can be controlled. I know we can't
control what other people do um and what
[8:20] they might place in their yards, but I
there are a few uh minor things that can
[8:26] be accommodated possibly such that we
can be great neighbors together and to
[8:32] where it doesn't where we don't feel
like we lose our peace um just to
[8:36] accommodate others moving in. Uh I know
it's going to I love the big oak tree. I
[8:41] hope that's not leaving. Okay, thank
you. Um, and so, um, that's really all I
[8:47] had to say is just that's that's my
heart. Um, it's it's been a stressful
[8:53] time to know that's changing. We know
the begs will change one day, but that's
[8:59] yours and it's different. It's expanded.
So, um,
[9:05] yeah, that's really kind of all I can
say.
[9:07] » Thank you. Thank you so much.
>> Thank you.
[9:15] I guess we don't have any other public
comments. So, um,
[9:20] first thing we need to do is, uh,
approve the, uh, planning and zoning
[9:22] minutes from June the 16th.
[9:28] » I'd like to hear
>> I wasn't here either.
[9:31] » I'll make a motion to approve.
>> Okay. I've got a motion on the floor. Do
[9:34] I have a second?
>> I second that.
[9:36] » All in favor? I have it.
Um the second uh agenda item is the
[9:44] discussion and action to consider
approval of a pre preliminary plat for
[9:50] Alamita Estates located on Ranch House
Road being a subdivision of a 12.032
[9:56] acre track of land out of the BBB and
CRR
[10:01] co-ervey abstract number 147 in Parker
County, Texas.
[10:06] » Yes. Good evening commissioners. This
land is currently zoned R1 and has a
[10:11] current residence that is not occupied.
The developer plans to remove it and lay
[10:15] out a thoughtful R1 development with
custom home builds, a little over 1 acre
[10:19] lots each, uh 3,500 ft minimum homes,
target price of 1 million plus. The
[10:27] developer has been in close contact with
the city about the plat related
[10:32] comments. um has been very amendable and
and changed uh with or revised without
[10:38] hesitation. Um it is an R1 zoning. It
meets city street standards and complies
[10:45] with the future land use plan. Um the
developer here if you have any questions
[10:50] uh and there's a presentation attached
if you go ahead and take a look.
[10:56] » Oh, let me see if I can
>> or sideways. Yeah,
[11:00] let me just do it sideways.
>> Little rotation.
[11:04] » There we go.
>> Well, uh, first of all, I guess I think
[11:09] I've had a chance to speak with you a
couple of times on a couple other
[11:12] projects. We were working on the tractor
supply and a handful other projects. So,
[11:15] that was under a different umbrella with
uh Barco and Kevin and Bryson Adams and
[11:19] some projects we worked. But, u, my name
is Grant Reed. Um, this is the Alama
[11:23] Estates project. We've been working with
Chelsea and Tony and the staff on this
[11:27] one for probably about four or so months
now. Um kind of doing a lot of drainage
[11:31] studies on this project. There is a
significant amount of flood on the
[11:35] southern end of the property. Um the
project was originally, you know, it
[11:38] came on the market and was being
advertised um for much smaller lots and
[11:42] they were trying to find a way to get
sewer down there and do a whole bunch of
[11:45] things. And at one day we kind of looked
up and we said, "Man, I think you know
[11:49] there's a lot of really interesting
aesthetic features of this piece of land
[11:52] and obviously extremely sympathetic with
Terra. I've known her for a couple years
[11:55] and talked to her earlier today. Um, and
you our goal in this project is really
[11:59] to try to keep it as it is today as much
as we can, stay within conforming zone
[12:04] use that's existing in place. Um, and
still try to keep the integrity of the
[12:09] land. Um, I I I you know, hearing Tara
speak, it's it's a tough thing and I I
[12:14] do feel for her and our goal in this
situation is we know there's a lot more
[12:18] people that still want to come and enjoy
this land. Um, I feel like we're
[12:21] offering a very nice product that's
going to be larger acreage. We're going
[12:24] to try to maintain as many of those
trees that are possible. Um, there's a
[12:27] large oak tree right on the front, which
is kind of a mimic of what our picture
[12:30] is here for the Alama Estates. Um, and a
big row of trees right down the
[12:34] driveway, which using a little bit of
AI, I found out that Alama in Spanish is
[12:39] row of trees. So, that was kind of the
the namesake there that we went with.
[12:43] Um, and so, like I said, it's, you know,
a gated community. Um the the main
[12:48] things that we've worked through and
questions, I know a lot of that's going
[12:50] to come down to the drainage. Um so the
full flood study has been done and
[12:53] reviewed um by staff and by Gretchen
internally. Um we have determined that
[12:58] you know based on flows and everything
we should be meeting um everything
[13:00] according to that and obviously we'll go
through a lot more of that detail with
[13:03] the site development permit and as we go
through the final design for what that
[13:07] outflow structure will look like. But um
happy to answer any questions you guys
[13:10] have.
>> Thank you.
[13:17] Does anybody have any any questions?
>> Um I I guess uh to to
[13:25] reiterate what she was saying about the
lighting point straight down.
[13:28] » So for a project I
>> mean at least for the street
[13:31] » correct. So, a project of this size, um,
and I really, it's it's a small enough
[13:36] project where we really wouldn't have to
go in with street lights. And I it's
[13:39] that is not a that's something I'm more
than amanable to not have a street
[13:43] light. At the end of the day, it would
be one street light at the end of the
[13:45] culde-sac. Um, that's more of a
partnership with the power company,
[13:48] which would be Encore. And if the city
would require that or want that within
[13:52] the subdivision, it's a small enough
project. I don't see it really bringing
[13:55] a lot of value with a small community
like this. you know, we're going to
[13:58] probably have some small, you know,
landscape lighting where we have
[14:01] entryway monuments that will kind of
light up this not very, you know,
[14:05] there'll be kind of more of a dimmer in
the in the shrubs and grass kind of
[14:07] lighting up on the rock monument
structures. Um, that's probably the
[14:11] extent of the lighting that we'll have
there. But in terms of street light,
[14:14] we're we're more than imable to remove
that, not have any street lights within
[14:17] the subdivision. It's just if that
conflict with anything of the city
[14:20] ordinances, I'm not sure about.
>> She's also about the back porch lights
[14:23] in your claim.
>> What about that's also what she's
[14:26] saying. Yeah.
>> What about landscaping? So, I'm very
[14:29] familiar with the property. I live on
the back side of Ful Park and I'm a
[14:32] fellow resident with land. So, I totally
understand and sympathize with her
[14:36] because I I'm staring at the future in
front of me and eventually it'll be
[14:39] rooftops.
>> Yes. Um,
[14:42] are you able to mitigate some of the
nuisance of having a bunch of rooftops
[14:46] right on Ranch House Road, which is a
main artery for Willow Park, and then
[14:50] maybe add some landscaping, maybe add
some more trees around the property, the
[14:55] perimeter, so it kind of blocks
>> the community, the development, so it
[14:58] doesn't look at
>> views on your face that you're building,
[15:02] you know, what was it? Uh, 12
>> 10 lots.
[15:06] » 10 lots, I'm sorry.
um
[15:09] » kind of disguise it a little bit, make
it more to where it blends with
[15:12] environment and nature and so forth. So
they're not staring at just blank walls
[15:16] and rooftops.
>> Yes, sir. Um so in regards to
[15:19] landscaping, what we currently have
plans, we have, you know, when I say
[15:21] landscaping, that's kind of a little bit
due to hardcaping as well. Um you know,
[15:25] the current plan is there's a very nice
kind of pipe fence there. So our kind of
[15:28] plan was to kind of completely refurbish
and retrofit that fence and we want to
[15:32] keep that in place cuz we like, you
know, it's ranch house road. It has a
[15:35] nice ranch feel to it. So, kind of going
through there and kind of kind of sand
[15:38] blasting, repainting that. And then
we'll be building kind of some rock uh
[15:42] monument entryways, kind of using more.
And I don't have, you know, full
[15:45] aesthetics and drawings yet just done to
that.
[15:47] » But we'll definitely be landscaping all
along through there. Um, as you're
[15:50] familiar on that road, there's that big
row of trees that comes down right down
[15:53] the stretch there.
>> Right.
[15:54] » And so, the goal with that is we offset
our road specifically just south of that
[15:58] to try to minimize any tree losses
there. We will have to remove a few of
[16:01] those trees because they're so tight
together. You wouldn't be able to have a
[16:04] driveway access to those lots,
>> right?
[16:06] » But so those trees will really work.
We're hoping to kind of keep that buffer
[16:10] line kind of coming down that'll be kind
of running east and west there. Um and I
[16:14] I took spoke with Tara earlier and I
don't want to, you know, commit to
[16:17] anything, you know, hard, but I
definitely said I said, "Hey, you know,
[16:19] we can we can find a way to work some of
that." I know she had mentioned about,
[16:22] hey, building a masonary wall. I don't
know if we can afford that within our
[16:25] budget, but I'm definitely open to, hey,
we can you can do a lot of uh evergreen
[16:29] landscaping and stuff like that along
that boundary to kind of protect her.
[16:33] Right.
>> Um like I said, I've known Terry for a
[16:34] long time, so want to try to be as best
neighbor we can be. I I can't promise
[16:38] you what that is to date, but we'll be
working on that path to continue working
[16:41] there.
>> Yeah. I mean, a nice green fence, so
[16:43] it's it's better than nothing. So,
>> thank you.
[16:49] Uh on on the drainage, I see there's a
looks like there's a tank on the south
[16:54] central side. Um is that going to are
y'all going to level it? I mean, as far
[16:58] as drainage goes, are you going to try
to push it off to the bags to that?
[17:02] » So that all that water flow is kind of
coming from the bags down to us. There's
[17:06] an existing kind of bridge right there.
And so there's one 51in culvert there
[17:09] that's existing,
>> right? Um based like I said this not
[17:13] don't want to speak on the engineering
side but based on our full flood study
[17:16] that was done in drainage analysis to
establish all the base flood elevations
[17:19] for this deal. Um the overall full
buildout I think we had a 7 MCF increase
[17:25] in flow. So our you know b based on the
rules and obligations we have to make
[17:28] sure that there's no increased flow
downstream. So we'll be maintaining that
[17:32] pond as kind of a natural pond to slow
down water there. And there will be more
[17:36] of a, it's not been fully designed yet,
but they're going to design a kind of a
[17:39] weird dam or outflow structure there to
kind of make sure we're not impacting
[17:43] anyone downstream of us while also kind
of maintaining the aesthetic pond that's
[17:46] there.
>> Okay. So, like in lot 8, 9.
[17:50] » Yes.
>> Back end will still be
[17:52] » pond.
>> And I have a bigger map here. It's kind
[17:56] of an 11 by 17. That's like I said,
they're conceptual construction plans at
[18:00] this point. Kind of shows that. But 8
and N will back up that 89.
[18:04] » Yeah. one.
My bad. Let's just have somebody over
[18:09] here.
[18:13] » And basically the street is just going
to be a straight culde-sac.
[18:16] » Straight cold.
>> No curbs.
[18:18] » No curb.
>> Straight up street.
[18:20] » It will be to center city standards in
terms of for a private drive. So we'll
[18:23] have a 50ft rideway with asphalt streets
that'll be a bar ditch.
[18:27] » Okay. We'll have the I believe the
current plan is for a 6-in water line
[18:31] coming down the south end of that with
fiber and other utilities as well.
[18:35] » Okay.
>> Um I I would really appreciate it on her
[18:41] her request if you could put some thick
cedars
[18:45] » or I know a privacy fence would be uh as
yours going. Some people will take care
[18:50] of it, some people won't.
>> Yes, sir. Um, so the trees might be the
[18:54] best option because I I see your
driveways right there down the the
[18:59] border there. So I I get her concern.
>> Yeah. And and abs like I said, I need to
[19:03] run some numbers on that stuff, you
know, obviously back.
[19:06] » No, I I agree. Yeah,
>> definitely definitely wanting to find
[19:09] whatever the best solution is there.
>> And is there any limits as far as what
[19:13] the builder's going to build like
twostory big big homes? So with this
[19:18] with projects like this, you know,
different than some of these other
[19:21] larger master paint communities, you
know, we're kind of working more with
[19:23] kind of our local semicustom to custom
builders um through different guy
[19:28] different groups that are kind of more
alto central based and hood county based
[19:31] versus these small lot subdivisions.
Those other builders are kind of come in
[19:34] and pre-by. So we've got a list of about
four or five guys that are committed,
[19:37] but they're wanting to wait to see they
like to see the final product and
[19:40] they'll kind of they'll design the house
based on what their existing plans are
[19:43] or kind of put a custom plan together.
So, we're anticipating a 3500 foot
[19:47] minimum there. Um, but should more than
likely all be hitting north of the
[19:51] million-doll kind of price point.
>> Okay.
[19:54] » That's not hard to do right now in this
market.
[19:58] » Some days it's good, some days it's not
so much. You never know.
[20:01] » She knows.
>> Yeah.
[20:03] » And I assume the uh a exemption will be
grandfathered in for these new people.
[20:09] » No, sir. Um, so I believe the minimum
requirement for a exemption Parker
[20:14] County I think is 10. I think there are
some exceptions for 5 acre tracks to get
[20:17] bees and certain things like that. But
with a 1acre track, you would you would
[20:20] not meet the minimum standard on that.
So the egg exemption would go away.
[20:24] We'll be required to pay the roll back
taxes on that Parker County.
[20:27] » Okay. [snorts]
[clears throat]
[20:30] » Thank you.
[20:33] » I'm good. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[20:35] » Thank you guys.
>> Anything else? Anyone?
[20:41] All right. Well,
uh, do we have a um a motion on this
[20:47] preliminary plaque?
[20:55] That was just
[21:03] Oh, yeah, that's right.
[21:14] Are you waiting on me?
[21:24] » I motion to move forward on Alama
Estates
[21:29] on Ranch House Road.
>> All right. Do I have a second?
[21:38] I'll second it. All right. All in favor?
All right. The eyes have it.
[21:45] And I guess that's um
Is that it? All right. We're journ.
[21:56] » Thanks everyone for coming. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[22:05] Facebook.
>> Uh, yes. As soon as you return, it
[22:09] should stop.
>> Yeah.