1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,820 Good evening. The meeting will please come to order. This is a regular meeting of the Board of Trustees at the Village of Womets. 2 00:00:07,300 --> 00:00:11,660 I'd like to welcome everybody here this evening. Well, everyone please stand for the pledge of allegiance. 3 00:00:26,460 --> 00:00:26,940 Thank 4 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,940 you all for joining us tonight. 5 00:00:32,940 --> 00:00:37,100 We will call the matters in the border, in which they appear on the print of the agenda. 6 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:40,040 There are copies of the agenda on the table by the door. 7 00:00:40,380 --> 00:00:44,040 You may want to have one, so you can follow along to see when your matter will be called. 8 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,400 If you plan to address us tonight, we ask that you please come up to the podium. 9 00:00:48,940 --> 00:00:52,420 Please speak into the microphone and tell us who you are and where you live, 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,560 as that may be relevant to the matter at hand. 11 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,980 Everything you say and everything we say is recorded, 12 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,980 and from those recordings minutes of the meeting are prepared. 13 00:01:00,980 --> 00:01:05,680 These minutes are available at Village Hall, and on our website, it will met.gov. 14 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,220 Also, our Village Board meetings are televised on Local Access Channel 6, and on the Internet. 15 00:01:11,820 --> 00:01:17,600 By televising our meetings, we make it easy for our neighbors in the community to follow the proceedings of the Village Board. 16 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,700 See the types of matters that come before us, the questions we ask and the policies we create. 17 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:28,200 You can find our kind of videos of Village Board and other government meetings on our website. 18 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,360 Before each meeting, the Board receives a packet of agenda materials. 19 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:38,080 These materials are also posted on our website on the Friday before our meeting, so residents 20 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,420 and other interested parties can review the same materials that the Board members receive. 21 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:47,980 Finally, we are a community of neighbors and as such, we want our meeting to be a civil and 22 00:01:47,980 --> 00:01:49,180 prettiest as possible. 23 00:01:49,900 --> 00:01:54,620 I know that we, the Board, as well as our residents and those speaking today, will promote 24 00:01:54,620 --> 00:02:00,300 of the city by listening, being respectful of others, acknowledging that we are all striving 25 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:05,360 to support and improve our community and understanding that we may each have different ideas 26 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,860 for achieving that objective. 27 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:11,660 Was one courtesy to those around you, please take the sign to turn off your cell phones 28 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:15,520 and other devices, and while we're doing that, Mr. Halgren, would you please call the roll? 29 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:22,260 Trustee Lender, here, trustee Shuffer, here, trustee State here, trustee Weaver, here, trustee 30 00:02:22,260 --> 00:02:25,720 up here, across the Kennedy here, and President Plunkett. 31 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Here, we are all here this evening. 32 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,000 The next item on the agenda is item two public comment. 33 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,760 During public comment individuals are allotted up to three minutes to address the board 34 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,260 on an item which is not already on the agenda. 35 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,060 Members of the audience may address the board on matters which are on tonight's agenda when 36 00:02:43,060 --> 00:02:44,600 the particular matter is called. 37 00:02:45,340 --> 00:02:49,180 So any member of the audience who would like to address the board on an item which is not 38 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:50,560 I'm the agent of this evening. 39 00:02:57,230 --> 00:02:58,230 Maybe Mr. Wiremieler? 40 00:03:00,610 --> 00:03:02,510 Good evening. My name is Mark Wiremieler, right? 41 00:03:02,510 --> 00:03:03,830 My own clock here. 42 00:03:04,170 --> 00:03:06,290 So I'm going to keep track of the time. 43 00:03:07,530 --> 00:03:09,490 So you have three minutes to speak during public comment. 44 00:03:09,550 --> 00:03:10,950 Again, my name is Mark Wiremieler. 45 00:03:11,010 --> 00:03:12,490 A couple quick points. 46 00:03:13,850 --> 00:03:17,550 Last week, I want to commend the board and the vendors in town, 47 00:03:17,650 --> 00:03:19,170 the business owners on the Black Party. 48 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:20,190 I thought it was tremendous. 49 00:03:21,370 --> 00:03:24,790 Special credit to Valley Lodge, Napalita, Thitt and Tap. 50 00:03:24,790 --> 00:03:30,230 They all did a great job, and I just think we maybe should have a block party every weekend. How's that sound? 51 00:03:33,150 --> 00:03:40,910 We have a Facebook group called Wilmet Connection, where we do a lot of comments on promoting restaurants, bars, new businesses. 52 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:46,290 I see buttermilk pancakes is going to open over on Skowkey Boulevard, possibly in a couple of weeks. 53 00:03:46,290 --> 00:03:53,650 I, as people know, I followed that since Baker Square, I was critical of the board at the time because they raised their property taxes. 54 00:03:54,030 --> 00:04:02,090 They actually hired attorneys to dispute, review their, their reduction, which seemed very strange to me. 55 00:04:02,150 --> 00:04:05,410 So if you want to know more about that, you can follow me on our Facebook group. 56 00:04:05,490 --> 00:04:11,890 You can look up records of it, but I want less taxes, so better for homeowners, better for businesses. 57 00:04:11,890 --> 00:04:17,470 But our page is up to 16,000 people. I recommend and they call me the I recommend guy 58 00:04:17,470 --> 00:04:21,390 I recommend all of you should be following this on Facebook. I'm also on Twitter 59 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:26,070 I'm basically a taxpayer advocate. I want less taxes and no offense to everybody 60 00:04:26,070 --> 00:04:28,350 But I want to shrink the size of government 61 00:04:28,350 --> 00:04:32,390 So more money goes people can keep more of their own money 62 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:37,910 a couple things that came up in the last meeting and I'm upset about is the 63 00:04:37,910 --> 00:04:41,210 95,500 was approved by the board with little discussion 64 00:04:41,210 --> 00:04:42,630 to fix the fountain outside. 65 00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:47,630 I talked to maybe 100 people who say that's about a $5 or $10,000 job. 66 00:04:48,130 --> 00:04:50,110 It says, Masonary Repairs in the bill, 67 00:04:50,670 --> 00:04:52,990 I was told I don't know the scope of the project. 68 00:04:53,530 --> 00:04:55,450 Maybe I don't, maybe they're going to build a big, 69 00:04:55,610 --> 00:04:57,650 maybe it's going to look like Buckingham Fountain or something. 70 00:04:57,970 --> 00:04:59,970 But it seems like pretty basic repairs. 71 00:05:00,290 --> 00:05:02,010 The fountain's 54 years old. 72 00:05:02,490 --> 00:05:04,790 It seems like it's been neglected for 54 years. 73 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:10,670 It looks like some talk point has been done maybe 20 years ago, but 92,500 seems like a lot 74 00:05:10,670 --> 00:05:11,570 for that type of job. 75 00:05:11,870 --> 00:05:16,110 And it's more of the tip of the iceberg, is that the same meeting that you guys voted 76 00:05:16,110 --> 00:05:19,290 to spend 5 to 600,000 on bike lanes on Lake Avenue. 77 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:21,210 So I just want to watch the costs. 78 00:05:21,790 --> 00:05:22,770 I do want to spend money. 79 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:25,870 I see the fire trucks, the new fire truck for $2 million. 80 00:05:26,230 --> 00:05:26,850 I approve that. 81 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:27,610 That's great. 82 00:05:27,950 --> 00:05:29,350 We should get two or three of them. 83 00:05:29,550 --> 00:05:31,470 But that's on the agenda later on. 84 00:05:31,910 --> 00:05:33,410 I'm at 30 seconds here. 85 00:05:33,810 --> 00:05:34,270 A couple of the things. 86 00:05:34,450 --> 00:05:37,610 The housing commission is meeting coming up. 87 00:05:39,870 --> 00:05:41,990 I wish they just held up a paddles at 30 seconds. 88 00:05:42,130 --> 00:05:42,870 I always say that. 89 00:05:43,150 --> 00:05:47,030 The housing commission is meeting I've issues with the housing commission and also the 90 00:05:47,030 --> 00:05:47,850 parents review. 91 00:05:48,170 --> 00:05:51,870 I'm not sure why they have to go before a committee to get a new on-ean in time. 92 00:05:51,930 --> 00:05:52,870 This seems insane. 93 00:05:54,470 --> 00:05:54,970 That's it. 94 00:05:55,030 --> 00:05:55,770 Again, Mark Wiremler. 95 00:05:55,910 --> 00:05:59,130 Thank you for your time and good work to everybody, especially on the Black Party. 96 00:05:59,170 --> 00:05:59,990 Thank you very much. 97 00:06:00,690 --> 00:06:01,190 Thank you. 98 00:06:01,190 --> 00:06:07,890 anyone else wishes to make a public comment this evening. Okay, seeing none, we'll close public comment and move on to. 99 00:06:08,530 --> 00:06:11,830 Oh, I'm sorry. Please, come on up. 100 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,580 I need an issue that you're entering. 101 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:21,160 But there's been a lot of talk about these cameras. 102 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,420 Would you mind introducing yourself? 103 00:06:22,420 --> 00:06:26,060 So, my name is Robert Mucci, I'm a retired attorney with public defender's office. 104 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,760 I don't live in Wometh. I live in Weneca, but you're calculating decision. 105 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,860 What a fact me. 106 00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:39,960 This camera system is not a local community issue in your town. You have interstate cameras and the interstate camera is going down green be able 107 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:45,780 And I can't suddenly go through when my way home. This camera system raises many issues. 108 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,880 Classical issues that the erosion of our rights privacy under the constitution. 109 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:57,320 I've spent 30 years in my life litigating fourth amendment issues, reasonable searches and seizures. 110 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:04,380 This is a very complex issue and I urge you to take a lot of time, have opened discussions and bring in everybody in the community. 111 00:07:04,780 --> 00:07:08,200 In UNEC, we have a conversation with a survey on major issues. 112 00:07:08,420 --> 00:07:13,200 We send a survey out to everybody in the town and they can answer this survey on issues like this. 113 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,140 And we use the responses in making our deliberations and how we choose to act. 114 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,080 But the camera system invades all our privacy. 115 00:07:24,380 --> 00:07:29,620 Whenever there's been an erosion of constitutional rights that we have, the Supreme Court uses a... 116 00:07:31,020 --> 00:07:41,000 And the balancing class is whether or not there is a compelling state interest that would overcome any chilling effect of loss of privacy. We don't have that here at all. 117 00:07:41,380 --> 00:07:45,720 What's going to happen is they're going to take any information about you and they're going to sell it. 118 00:07:45,860 --> 00:07:54,200 And then it's all going into AI. It's not going to benefit you in any managed shape or form that's going to justify implementation of its project. 119 00:07:54,700 --> 00:08:00,140 So, I would just like to sum up, it's a very important issue, it's a slippery slope when 120 00:08:00,140 --> 00:08:04,500 you take that first step down that slope, it's going to be a cast and erosion of your 121 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:06,340 rights and we're never going to reverse the direction. 122 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,960 I see no purpose in this, there's plenty of cameras, our police officers have cameras in 123 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:17,780 the car, they have body cameras, when it comes to crime, there's no purpose other than 124 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,500 to implement a loss of your rights, a loss of your freedom. 125 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:25,000 You might be deterred from assembling. 126 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,020 You might be deterred from associating with people you're always being watched. 127 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,000 It's 1984 in a scary. 128 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,800 So please take your blood and deliberation and make it an open discussion. 129 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:43,300 There's a lot of literature on this because other communities are considering this. 130 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:46,480 And I hope that you do too and I hope you don't implement it. 131 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:48,820 And I'm doing the same thing in the town where I live. 132 00:08:48,820 --> 00:08:53,860 I don't see any good from actually a lot of evil and they're going to sell all your information 133 00:08:53,860 --> 00:08:54,580 to AI. 134 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:55,820 They're building these big centers. 135 00:08:55,820 --> 00:08:56,860 Speaker of 30 seconds. 136 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,640 I appreciate the time. 137 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:01,140 I thank you and I have a good evening. 138 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:02,660 Thank you. 139 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,620 Anyone else wish to make a public comment? 140 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:06,280 Okay. 141 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:11,020 And this might be a good time for a reminder for the community that there will be a public safety 142 00:09:11,020 --> 00:09:15,280 committee meeting on this topic this Thursday in Council Chambers. 143 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:17,320 It will be recorded and what time is it? 144 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:25,600 at 10 AM, the first of two meetings and the Agenda packet is on the Village website for everyone to review. 145 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:31,360 Moving on then to the consent agenda item three is the consent agenda. 146 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:37,760 As described on the printed agenda items which are either routine business or normally not debated by the Village Board 147 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:43,220 are placed on the consent agenda. All items beginning with a three or on the consent agenda 148 00:09:43,220 --> 00:09:55,780 And tonight the consent agenda consists of the items on page 1, beginning with item 3.1, through page 4, and ending with item 3.31, items on the consent agenda are up for approval tonight. 149 00:09:56,220 --> 00:10:03,220 If an item is not removed by a member of the audience and is not removed by one of the trustees, the item will be approved and it will not be discussed. 150 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,500 Are there any items trustees would like to remove from the consent agenda? 151 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:15,300 All shaking their heads no? Is there any member of the audience who would like to remove an item from the consent agenda? 152 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,200 Okay, seeing none, may I have a motion to adopt the consent agenda? 153 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,080 So moved. 154 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,060 Trustee Smith, is there a second? 155 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:23,560 Second. 156 00:10:23,900 --> 00:10:26,380 Trustee Lieber, it's been moved in seconded. 157 00:10:26,620 --> 00:10:30,000 Mr. Halgrim would you please call the roll on the motion to adopt the consent agenda? 158 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:31,880 Trustee Lieber, aye. 159 00:10:32,060 --> 00:10:33,260 Trustee Shepherd, aye. 160 00:10:33,580 --> 00:10:34,720 Trustee Sting, aye. 161 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,480 Trustee Lieber, aye. 162 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Trustee Smith, aye. 163 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,720 Trustee Kennedy, aye. 164 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:40,460 And President Walker. 165 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:40,940 Aye. 166 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,520 Motion carries the consent. 167 00:10:42,660 --> 00:10:44,460 The consent agenda has been adopted. 168 00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:48,340 If you are here for an item on the consent agenda, it has been approved. 169 00:10:48,980 --> 00:10:54,700 And to clarify for people who are here tonight, all of the items beginning with a three have been approved. 170 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:58,840 There will be no further discussion of any of the items on the consent agenda. 171 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,440 So you are free to leave. 172 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:03,700 But of course, you are more than welcome to save the part for all of our meeting. 173 00:11:04,980 --> 00:11:12,560 Next up is reports of officers, and I am happy to welcome Illinois House Majority Leader Robin 174 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:14,540 Gabel to Wometh the seasoning. 175 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:23,000 We appreciate leader Gabel's representation of our community and partnership with leader 176 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:23,580 Gabel. 177 00:11:24,500 --> 00:11:30,180 Not only does leader Gabel listen to us to take our concerns seriously as it relates to legislation 178 00:11:30,180 --> 00:11:35,700 in Springfield, but she has been an advocate for the village during the state annual budget 179 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:36,540 process. 180 00:11:36,540 --> 00:11:48,680 Recently, we were able to complete one of the final sections of our Eden's pollinator corridor as a result of a $270,000 grant that Robin is secured for us. 181 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:57,160 And on tonight's agenda, we are approving a contract for architectural services to begin modernization of Fire Station 27. 182 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:06,180 We have a fire chief here, several leaders in the back, kind of an all-fire evening looking 183 00:12:06,180 --> 00:12:06,960 at our agenda. 184 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:16,280 But starting with the architectural services contract that we just approved on our consent 185 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:17,440 agenda, 186 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:24,720 Mr. Brayman and I met with Leader Gabel, several months ago in Springfield, and we 187 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:31,480 were able to share that our fire stations were constructed more than 60 years ago and don't 188 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,480 meet today's standards for functionality, firefighter safety and quality of life. 189 00:12:36,660 --> 00:12:43,060 And this project funded through this grant will improve fire station health and living conditions 190 00:12:43,060 --> 00:12:49,320 by updating the sleeping quarters at Fire Station 27 and installing airlock vestibules 191 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,600 between the sleeping common areas and the apparatus phase. 192 00:12:54,700 --> 00:13:00,560 The sleeping corners update will take the current open air sleeping area sleeping room with all the 193 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:06,640 bunks in one room and replace it with individual bunk rooms with locker rooms and privacy doors. 194 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:13,340 We have long had difficulty attracting women to our fire service and this step is long overdue. 195 00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:18,480 This grant will also support the installation of the enclosed air lock vestibules 196 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:26,620 between the vehicle apparatus areas and the living quarters in both fire stations, which will reduce the contaminants from entering the living areas. 197 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,660 So with that, I would like to invite leader Gable to come up. 198 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:36,960 I want to present her with this certificate of thanks for this important grant. 199 00:13:37,380 --> 00:13:39,980 Well, why don't you, and I want to say a couple words. 200 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:44,140 You don't have to do it with a thick photo with this and a few minutes. 201 00:13:44,140 --> 00:13:45,000 which 202 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:52,500 I have to do all the time. 203 00:13:54,060 --> 00:13:57,720 They actually built a little stool for me, 204 00:13:57,780 --> 00:14:01,400 so if I'm ever presiding in the chamber, 205 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,340 I can be seen over the podium here. 206 00:14:04,980 --> 00:14:08,960 So, thank you very, very much for this recognition. 207 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,160 It really has been a pleasure working with you, 208 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,940 President Plunkett and Village Manager, 209 00:14:15,940 --> 00:14:22,040 frame in over the years and all of you trustees. I really appreciate you coming to Springfield 210 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:29,560 or calling me here. I but do believe that decisions with the most amount of input from 211 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:37,980 stakeholders are our best that the more opinions we have, the better our decisions are. So I really 212 00:14:37,980 --> 00:14:45,000 do appreciate hearing from everyone. You know, I'm so pleased that these state funds will help provide 213 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,940 as you said, separate locker rooms for women firefighters, and hopefully be an incentive 214 00:14:51,490 --> 00:14:55,700 as the village recruits more female firefighters to the community. 215 00:14:57,060 --> 00:14:59,400 I know that I, once, 216 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:10,680 We did that experiment with the firefighters where I had to put down all the equipment and walk up the stairs in a, quote, burning house, and I will tell you, I will never be a firefighter. 217 00:15:10,780 --> 00:15:24,240 It was the poor guy leading me was finally like, okay, give me your air, because otherwise we're never going to get up these stairs, you know, it was like, so I really, really appreciate the work that they do having experienced it myself. 218 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:32,640 And, you know, these types of projects are exactly what the Illinois State Capital Funds should be used for. 219 00:15:32,860 --> 00:15:38,200 Improving our communities while also providing really high quality construction jobs. 220 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:42,180 So, I am so pleased that we could be using these funds for this purpose. 221 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:43,980 Thank you again. 222 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:51,180 And I really look forward to continuing our open communication and our great relationship, 223 00:15:51,180 --> 00:15:54,320 which I find mutually supportive. Thank you. 224 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:55,600 Thank you. 225 00:15:59,570 --> 00:16:00,890 I would love a photo with you. 226 00:16:26,860 --> 00:16:29,920 I should probably move forward a little bit and then everybody gets by. 227 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,060 That's good. You get tight. 228 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:33,300 Very tight. 229 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,440 No, good tight. 230 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,220 I know. 231 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:39,740 Yes. 232 00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:41,900 Here you want to be on the other side. 233 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:42,940 Yeah. 234 00:16:44,180 --> 00:16:45,640 You want to come on up? 235 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,820 I actually don't know. 236 00:16:46,820 --> 00:16:47,040 I don't know. 237 00:16:47,260 --> 00:16:49,120 Perfect. Now that you've got this perfect. 238 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,140 I'll just in there you go. 239 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,320 Do one more. 240 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:05,980 Thank you. 241 00:17:06,220 --> 00:17:07,320 I'll cut you out. 242 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,180 Oh yes, I'm going to do this. 243 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,080 We're going to do this. 244 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:13,900 We're going to do this. 245 00:17:14,420 --> 00:17:15,120 Thank you. 246 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:16,120 You're a must be great. 247 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,820 It's a must be great. 248 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:20,800 I'll do it. 249 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:20,920 I'm going to do it. 250 00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:21,800 I'll do it. 251 00:17:22,180 --> 00:17:22,380 I'll do it. 252 00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:22,900 Don't, don't, don't, don't. 253 00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:23,260 I'll do it. 254 00:17:23,260 --> 00:17:23,980 I'll do it. 255 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,520 Okay, this is something to catch you. 256 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:27,620 What do you get again? 257 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,940 What do you get again? 258 00:18:12,660 --> 00:18:14,060 Next time next time you come to call us 259 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,100 some authority, it's going to go right over. 260 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:20,460 You'd have a second where you'd thank you. 261 00:18:20,860 --> 00:18:21,620 Thank you. 262 00:18:21,620 --> 00:18:21,740 Thank you. 263 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,380 It's fun to work on. 264 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:35,890 Next up, I would like to introduce Christine Moran. 265 00:18:36,990 --> 00:18:40,710 It has been recommended for appointment to the Human Relations Commission. 266 00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:46,250 So happy that you agreed to be on the Human Relations Commission. 267 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:49,430 I think you're going to make a wonderful addition. 268 00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:52,550 I think you've got, I'll let you introduce yourself. 269 00:18:53,210 --> 00:18:58,670 I even know I have your bio here, but I wanted you to be able to say a few words to the board. 270 00:18:59,010 --> 00:19:02,010 Sure, thank you. I think you press and unplug it and members of the board. 271 00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:06,910 My name is Christine Moran. I've been a resident of Wilmat since 2009. 272 00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:11,090 I married to Bob, a new chair graduate, and together we have two sons. 273 00:19:11,370 --> 00:19:13,810 Matthew, who's 22 and William, who's 20. 274 00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:17,730 Our family chose to move to Wilmat when Matthew was starting kindergarten, 275 00:19:17,730 --> 00:19:21,130 recognizing the community as a welcoming environment. 276 00:19:21,850 --> 00:19:26,290 Bob grew up in Womats, and my sister-in-waring taught special education at Central School. 277 00:19:26,810 --> 00:19:29,570 So we already knew about Womats' strong commitment to inclusion, 278 00:19:30,330 --> 00:19:33,250 especially important to us first, and Matthew, who has special needs. 279 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:36,970 Over our 17 years in this community and school district, 280 00:19:37,490 --> 00:19:40,410 we've been so pleased with how Womats has embraced Matthew. 281 00:19:41,470 --> 00:19:44,070 He recently graduated from the YouTube Transition Program 282 00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:45,990 and has moved to Missouri, Korea. 283 00:19:46,690 --> 00:19:53,190 In my professional life, I serve as the managed and director of multi-family finance department for the Illinois Housing Development Authority. 284 00:19:53,970 --> 00:20:02,750 At Ida, my team is responsible for the administration of various state and federal resources to create and preserve affordable housing across the state. 285 00:20:03,810 --> 00:20:06,730 I'm honored to be considered for this position on the Human Relations Commission. 286 00:20:07,410 --> 00:20:10,670 I believe I can bring valuable perspective and diversity equity and inclusion. 287 00:20:11,490 --> 00:20:13,330 And we also love the fireman. 288 00:20:13,930 --> 00:20:19,690 Yeah, because we've been going into fire stations since he was in kindergarten, I think we're just very yesterday, so. 289 00:20:20,130 --> 00:20:21,430 Anyway, thank you very much. 290 00:20:22,610 --> 00:20:23,310 Well, thank you. 291 00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:32,870 And so happy to have your voice on the Human Relations Commission and to the race to our place, which is coming up to come soon. 292 00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:33,470 October 4th. 293 00:20:34,450 --> 00:20:34,710 Yes. 294 00:20:35,290 --> 00:20:36,570 So excited for that. 295 00:20:37,490 --> 00:20:39,050 And I really appreciate your service. 296 00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:39,530 Thank you. 297 00:20:39,670 --> 00:20:39,910 Thank you. 298 00:20:39,950 --> 00:20:40,330 You're welcome. 299 00:20:40,330 --> 00:20:41,130 Thank you. 300 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:57,820 I have a few requests for executive session which I will read at the end of the evening at the end of the meeting and then I just wanted to have a shout out for some block party. Thank you. 301 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:11,880 The block party was phenomenal this year. It might have been the most people since our 150th or maybe it eclipse that, but it was a wonderful collaboration between the village and the park district. 302 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,680 And specifically, I'd like to thank from the village, Sarah Fyfer, and Monica Grossnickle, 303 00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:22,800 and I'm going to thank the Park District, especially Lindsey Thomas, and from the village, 304 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,360 I want to thank our facilities crew, public works, police department, fire department. 305 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:28,880 They were all out there. 306 00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:34,280 The comments I got that evening was, is this really well met? 307 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,900 And I think some of us were kind of pinching ourselves. 308 00:21:37,660 --> 00:21:40,680 It was, it was a wonderful evening and it all ran smoothly. 309 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:48,220 thanks to all the staff that worked really hard. So we're excited for next year for a number 310 00:21:48,220 --> 00:21:55,740 for a year six of the Black Party. Mr. Raymond, do you have any reports? Okay, so then we 311 00:21:55,740 --> 00:21:59,560 will move on to our standing committee reports. The first up is the land use standing committee 312 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,600 trustee Leonard. All items, all the things that we do. Finance committee standing report, 313 00:22:04,780 --> 00:22:09,060 trustee Shefford. All items are on the consent agenda. Administration committee standing report, 314 00:22:15,060 --> 00:22:25,180 We have a couple items under public safety standing committee. 315 00:22:25,740 --> 00:22:29,860 I move for the adoption of resolution 2020. 316 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:39,920 26, dash our dash 141 authorizing the village manager to execute a contract in the amount not to exceed 317 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:56,620 $2.1 million with garage ink, New York, New York. For the purchase of a 2025 piers enforcer latter, I'm sorry, enforcer tower latter. 318 00:22:56,620 --> 00:23:04,560 the numbers on here for detail. I move for this to be accepted, meaning to be approved by the board. 319 00:23:05,020 --> 00:23:07,500 It's been moved in a second. Second? 320 00:23:07,980 --> 00:23:09,340 Okay, it's been moved in a second. 321 00:23:10,420 --> 00:23:14,500 I want to turn it over to our chief of fire. 322 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,500 Thank you, trustee Smith. Thank you, President Punket. 323 00:23:21,620 --> 00:23:23,180 I'll be trustee's, Village Manager. 324 00:23:26,940 --> 00:23:27,720 Short presentation. 325 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,680 All 326 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:43,750 right, so a quick overview on the screen here is a tower ladder 204 and tower ladder 205. 327 00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:45,950 This is our current fleet for tower ladders. 328 00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:50,170 These are your fire apparatus or your suppression apparatus. 329 00:23:50,650 --> 00:23:55,890 The under station that's station 26, which is your only suppression apparatus. 330 00:23:57,130 --> 00:23:58,610 East of the railroad tracks. 331 00:23:58,890 --> 00:24:01,190 Station 27 houses an engine. 332 00:24:01,190 --> 00:24:16,290 So FD204 is our frontline FD205, we purchased five years ago, it's a used unit to back up 204 when it's out of service for PM's for maintenance and such. 333 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:26,760 So NFPA 1901 has some recommended guidelines for frontline for fire apparatus, specifically this one is for a tower ladder. 334 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:32,860 15 years front line 10 years in reserve status we do maintain two tower 335 00:24:32,860 --> 00:24:41,140 ladders like I said that reports are response plan and the idea is try to get to 336 00:24:41,140 --> 00:24:45,540 point where we're replacing these in a timely manner and on a regular manner. 337 00:24:46,020 --> 00:24:49,120 So we want to public safety and present to this. 338 00:24:49,260 --> 00:24:55,300 Ideally, we're giving some direction that's 12.5 years and 12.5 years is 339 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:02,450 more solid with the replacement and the budgeting. So we know what's happening as time goes on 340 00:25:03,620 --> 00:25:09,880 for budget purposes. But the other thing too is it's also subject to what the conditions are 341 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,720 when we get to that time frame, what the conditions are with the economics, the village stands, 342 00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:21,720 and where the apparatus are our standing in. There's still operating and there's no issues in 343 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,600 So, this still keeps this open. 344 00:25:25,380 --> 00:25:27,000 So, the three scenarios that we presented 345 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,980 to the public safety committee are up here. 346 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,720 So, scenario one was to purchase a used Pearson forcer, 347 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,660 estimated $2.58 million total cost. 348 00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:44,040 That is the 2.4 that was asked in price of this tower ladder, 349 00:25:44,420 --> 00:25:50,560 then it would be the maintenance cost of the apparatus of the reserve, 350 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:58,180 And then also what it would cost to bring that tower ladder into service for the village 351 00:25:58,180 --> 00:25:58,940 of Womet. 352 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:06,820 scenario two was to buy a new unit that would be purchased this year or next year and 353 00:26:06,820 --> 00:26:14,820 then it would take up to 40, 40 months to get the tower ladder to be manufactured in the 354 00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:17,540 So that brings us up to around 2029. 355 00:26:18,180 --> 00:26:21,980 So these costs also included the refurbishment of FD205. 356 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,920 So we had gone to public safety earlier and got approval 357 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,280 of 204 getting the hydraulic systems replaced, 358 00:26:29,580 --> 00:26:30,520 which we have done. 359 00:26:30,820 --> 00:26:33,400 That's where we had it on a 204 was on a fire. 360 00:26:33,580 --> 00:26:35,900 We had a catastrophic break of a hydraulic system 361 00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:39,120 that we dumped all the hydraulic oil on a heared, 362 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,960 which really rendered the tower ladder out of service. 363 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,740 Luckily, the fire was out, but we had to, it means it's out there to pull it out. 364 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,720 So we had gone and discussed about getting 205 with public safety in the hydraulic system 365 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,380 done that also. 366 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,620 So those costs are in the 3.01 million dollars. 367 00:26:57,980 --> 00:27:02,580 And scenario through scenario three is the same thing by new unit with the refurbishment, 368 00:27:02,820 --> 00:27:07,880 but then also try to look for the possibility of acquiring another huge tower ladder that 369 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:14,200 fit as a reserve with the costs of tower letters today and even some aftermarket we're seeing 370 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:21,800 that those prices are up there because tower letters are $2.5 million new today and people are 371 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,960 holding on and selling their used tower letters. We just a little history we did look at another 372 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:34,660 used one we were unable to acquire it but it did go for a million dollars and it was of 20 2015 so that 373 00:27:34,660 --> 00:27:37,260 that's what those cost of the 3.45 are. 374 00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:42,140 So, public safety gave us direction to go with option, 375 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,440 or scenario number one. 376 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,700 So, we contacted Garage and we negotiated with Garage 377 00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:50,700 for the purchase of the tower ladder 378 00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:52,840 that is from the dining under York. 379 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:57,500 And we agreed upon a price of $2.1 million. 380 00:27:57,980 --> 00:28:02,340 So, this is a brand new pierce. 381 00:28:02,340 --> 00:28:08,600 That was delivered in January of this year when they got it to the fire station that didn't fit. 382 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:17,380 And they chose to sell the tower ladder and set up raising the roof on the fire station so it would fit. 383 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,520 So it will fit in our fire station. 384 00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:23,140 We have measured so they're on any issues there. 385 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:29,640 So this is almost identical to what we would purchase if we were to purchase something new. 386 00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:38,350 These are the two things that are of significance that would be different that if we were to purchase 387 00:28:38,350 --> 00:28:44,530 We were to go into a contract with between these are two things that we would have probably put into our contract 388 00:28:44,530 --> 00:28:51,090 We would have had air at the basket. So this is the ability for the firefighters when they're in the basket on a fire 389 00:28:51,090 --> 00:29:02,690 They're able to hook into an airline that's piped into the latter and are able to 390 00:29:02,690 --> 00:29:08,450 options. This isn't a deal killer by any means, you know, the firefighters wear their air 391 00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:14,350 packs in the in the in the basket. We have the option of going to one hour bottles, which would 392 00:29:14,350 --> 00:29:19,390 be twice as much errors as we normally have. Another thing would have spare bottles in the basket, 393 00:29:19,470 --> 00:29:24,670 so they could change out the partners could change out between the two or we would do personnel change. 394 00:29:25,450 --> 00:29:30,050 The second item is 300 gallon water tank. Our frontline tower ladder currently is 500, 395 00:29:30,050 --> 00:29:35,250 but our reserve tower ladder that we got from New Jersey by years ago has 300 gallons. 396 00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:40,010 All this really does is really signifies and it's already a priority number one is 397 00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:44,850 after life safety is made sure that we're going into a structural structure fire that we establish 398 00:29:44,850 --> 00:29:49,010 a water supply. So that's one of the things that once the water supply is established, 399 00:29:49,450 --> 00:29:54,450 it's communicated on the air and now we have because we have Lake Michigan and Lake Michigan water. 400 00:29:54,730 --> 00:29:57,590 Hopefully we have an endless amount of water for firefighter. 401 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:07,800 So, the first thing we did is we went to public safety for a review and we proceeded with scenario number one. 402 00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:13,440 And we went out and negotiated the price of $2.1 million from an asking price of $2.4. 403 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,600 We went out, the team went out and did an inspection. They went out to New York and included our fleet department. 404 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,820 Deputy Chief Sheets, who was with me today, and then a Deputy Chief Menzy stayed back with me. 405 00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:32,600 And then we had an apparatus engineer, so many of that is going to drive the tower ladder. 406 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:39,640 If it comes back, when it comes back, and then also we had an officer that also is in charge of our fleet. 407 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:45,200 That works in public works with our fleet management, so we sent the four people out there. 408 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,640 I liked what they saw. 409 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,180 I mean, it's a brand new tower ladder. 410 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:55,180 We feel that we can make it fit in to very similar to what we would purchase, except for those two things that we're 411 00:30:55,180 --> 00:30:56,960 that I mentioned before. 412 00:30:57,700 --> 00:31:01,820 Terminal of the Sales was established in just a little bit of the warranties. 413 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,080 You own one-year powertrain warranty from barrage. 414 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:10,040 The Pierce warranties will transfer over and then they're going to fray it out here at 415 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,700 their cost. 416 00:31:12,820 --> 00:31:13,540 That's my report. 417 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,020 One question, but beforehand, before the people who are on the Public Safety Committee, 418 00:31:25,060 --> 00:31:28,760 we were talking about this a year and a half ago or so, one of the things that we talked 419 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:35,800 was the possibility of getting kind of a gently used ladder truck just because the time to get 420 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,960 new one is so long because they're basically two companies in the United States that build these, 421 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:46,680 so it's like what 40 months away. And then low in behold, this one came available and we all 422 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:52,190 had the same question. Why is there a brand new one? And it's literally because the station in 423 00:31:52,190 --> 00:31:58,710 in New York State, the roof is a foot too low, and it wouldn't fit, is that all right? 424 00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:07,250 Correct. So basically, their losses are a game, and $300,000 cheaper, right. Correct. 425 00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:13,810 And today is waiting for four years. The only question, it occurred to me as you were talking, 426 00:32:14,590 --> 00:32:18,930 we're probably going to need to spend a little bit of money to re-brand the outside, 427 00:32:18,930 --> 00:32:25,470 say we'll met fire department, right? Correct. So we were estimating around $50,000 to be put into the 428 00:32:25,470 --> 00:32:33,550 tower ladder to get it, you know, laddered and put in service. Okay, that's the $50,000. Okay, that's the 429 00:32:33,550 --> 00:32:40,650 $50,000. Thanks. Right. Inform a contractual perspective. Those will fall under other existing contracts 430 00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:44,730 that we already have. Those aren't within the purchase of the deal. 431 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,560 I mean, this sounds like, I mean, 432 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,320 expecting to spend this today. That's why we have to vote on this in the budget, but we were 433 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,560 going to spend this in a few years and we were going to spend more. And so this sounds like 434 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:09,540 a really good deal for a brand new tower ladder, and then we're also saving money on not having to 435 00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:15,460 refurbish one of our existing tower ladders. And I assume that we'll just put that on the auction to 436 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:22,570 So that is so much of the cost that we went over a little bit earlier, and includes selling 437 00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:25,960 of the reserve, our current reserve. 438 00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:31,420 And then obviously, when things go on, you sell the reserves as we get through. 439 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:39,340 And that 25-year period, you look at how much your reserve with fleet is what the value is. 440 00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:41,680 Is it beneficial to sell it sooner than later? 441 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,900 I mean, it's just like, you know, like a million dollar spur of a 2015 power that 442 00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:47,540 earth. 443 00:33:47,860 --> 00:33:50,940 It's hard to come by, but that's kind of where we started with all these conversations 444 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:57,040 about fire apparatus and replacing them, because we're really in a weird situation where, 445 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,820 you know, 40 months for a power ladder, to me when I heard the 40 months, I thought that 446 00:34:01,820 --> 00:34:05,500 was pretty quick from some of the stories we were in a few years ago, it was up to five 447 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:10,520 years, and then the prices are astronomical, and we're bangin' the drum at the state 448 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,140 in the federal levels, like some of you guys 449 00:34:12,140 --> 00:34:14,540 have to do something with the price of our apparatus. 450 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,220 It's just getting larger and larger. 451 00:34:18,540 --> 00:34:20,960 And then there's really not a market out there 452 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,880 is not going out and buying it, and I tell you guys, 453 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,200 it's not like going out and buying a four to 150, 454 00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:29,760 where they're selling 10,000 a week, 455 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,420 where you can negotiate, and you have some history. 456 00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:34,860 I mean, how many people are selling a one, 457 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,820 how many people are selling a tower ladder 458 00:34:36,820 --> 00:34:38,800 that they purchase and never put in service, 459 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:46,600 And two, who's selling a tower ladder, that has 20,000 miles on it from then, bought it in 2015. 460 00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:50,100 But nowadays, there's that little bit of the market. 461 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,560 And it is funny that a lot of people knew about this, this one from New Jersey, 462 00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:57,220 or New York, because they've had some conversations. 463 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,540 And it was out there and people are like, you know what I say? 464 00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:04,660 Yeah, we ended up cutting a deal on, for 2.1. 465 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,440 And we all, you know, with that too, all the hard work from Deputy Chief Sheets. 466 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,580 Because he pointed out like in February. 467 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,080 He said, he's a look at this and I laughed. 468 00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:16,820 I'm like, come on. 469 00:35:17,260 --> 00:35:17,800 There's no way. 470 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,000 And we were looking at something else. 471 00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:21,300 And then all of a sudden, it was like, wait a minute. 472 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,820 We asked, I'm looking at this because we had both tower ladders down at the same time. 473 00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:26,940 I'm like, give me a call. 474 00:35:27,340 --> 00:35:28,800 See what they have to say. 475 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,600 And here we are. 476 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,820 It seems like a good story. 477 00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:35,300 And I know from talking to other municipalities, 478 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,880 this is a real problem, not just the cost, 479 00:35:40,340 --> 00:35:41,060 but the waiting. 480 00:35:42,420 --> 00:35:46,220 And trying to repair these aging vehicles costs 481 00:35:46,220 --> 00:35:49,740 a fortune in and of itself, and takes a long time. 482 00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:55,180 So this sounds like a good ending to this story. 483 00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:58,680 So thank you all for your diligence and hard work 484 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,180 in research and trying to find this. 485 00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:07,320 So I, and also, you know, for people who don't know the public safety committee as reference 486 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,300 had a series of meetings and we were made, all that information was made available to us. 487 00:36:12,380 --> 00:36:17,800 So it was really helpful and appreciate all the work that was put in by that committee to get it to us. 488 00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:21,000 It's really been helpful in the work that all of you did. 489 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:22,060 It's great. 490 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,440 So in eight years, we'll have to start talking about it again. 491 00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:28,460 It does. 492 00:36:28,740 --> 00:36:32,000 This one should last until 2050, right? 493 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:32,620 Yeah. 494 00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:36,900 Yeah, but then you have a second year. 495 00:36:37,260 --> 00:36:38,920 And we have to look at that. 496 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,100 If I go back to Chief's discussion a couple of years ago, 497 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:49,240 how do we get on this regimented cycle and looking at six to 12? 498 00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:50,820 And how can we get to that? 499 00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:55,620 And you would say fortune came, we were able to get a use when then. 500 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:04,620 But this fortune to get this one and really have a really a new vehicle in the fleet is really remarkable. 501 00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:08,600 So you took a very challenging situation. 502 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,760 And now we've turned it into a very positive situation as we go into the future. 503 00:37:15,340 --> 00:37:15,740 Well done. 504 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:16,840 Thank you. 505 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,600 Just a well done to staff. 506 00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:24,660 to. Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate it. 507 00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:28,100 Since we are voting on this, it's a large expenditure. 508 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,980 Would any member of the audience wish to... 509 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,160 Can you make a public comment on this? 510 00:37:39,660 --> 00:37:48,940 Good evening, real quick, Mark Wiremiller. You can follow me on woman connection. I was the only member of the public to attend the public safety committee meeting. 511 00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:55,000 Actually, I've been the only one less free, I believe. So there is another public safety committee meeting mentioned earlier. 512 00:37:55,220 --> 00:38:02,820 Ten o'clock Thursday morning. I think the main issue is going to talk about flock cameras. I'd like to talk about other issues in public safety. I do support this purchase. 513 00:38:02,820 --> 00:38:09,380 This is a great thing. This is what we want. Many of us want our tax money to go to, to police, fire, 514 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:17,980 trash pickup, fixing potholes. This is, this is what our property tax should be going to. I commend the fire to the part, but they do a great job. 515 00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:24,420 I've seen them do quite a few things just in downtown will met, especially EMS calls. They do a great job. 516 00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:32,640 Money will spend. I'd rather spend money on this than bike lanes for overpaying for a fountain or redoing 517 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,740 world with seem fine, or as I've said before, spending $49 million on a new police station 518 00:38:38,740 --> 00:38:42,620 that seemed like it was in relatively good shape. So, excellent job by the fire department. 519 00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:46,780 I did have two questions. I would wonder if you vote yes on this. If it went, it's going to be 520 00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:52,780 delivered. And also, when they sell the old truck, when they sell the old truck many years ago, 521 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:57,660 they seem to like give it away to a country. I think in South America, I hope they sell it to 522 00:38:57,660 --> 00:39:03,900 somebody and get some money out of it, you know, I hate to sound, you know, even, it's obviously 523 00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:07,920 we're something, hopefully it's not going to be a victory auto-reppers or somebody, but I 524 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,920 think that truck has value and hopefully we get some money to offset our costs here. But again, 525 00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:15,920 great job, everybody, and I support the fire department, the police department, and everybody 526 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:28,100 working in the village. Thank you, and I hope we vote yes. Thank you. And just to confirm, when we 527 00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:38,450 as early as this week or next week. 528 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:40,390 So, but on everything goes tonight, 529 00:39:40,590 --> 00:39:42,270 they said it would be good to go. 530 00:39:42,850 --> 00:39:43,710 Great, thank you. 531 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:47,240 You don't think we have any other questions. 532 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,020 And it's been moved in second and in the second 533 00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:52,120 and in the second, please call the roll on the motion. 534 00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:53,020 Trust me. 535 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:54,460 Trust me. 536 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:55,520 Trust me. 537 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:55,920 Trust me. 538 00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:56,600 Hi. 539 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,820 Trust me. 540 00:39:57,820 --> 00:39:58,040 Hi. 541 00:39:58,740 --> 00:39:59,180 Trust me. 542 00:39:59,440 --> 00:39:59,720 Hi. 543 00:40:01,740 --> 00:40:02,260 Hi. 544 00:40:02,580 --> 00:40:02,820 Hi. 545 00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:04,300 I'm President Plockett. 546 00:40:05,060 --> 00:40:06,840 I, resolution adopted. 547 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,480 Thank you all for your hard work again. 548 00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:11,600 Thank you, Trustee Smith. 549 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:19,300 Second item, 5.52, police station project, construction update. 550 00:40:19,660 --> 00:40:22,060 I'm going to turn it over to the village manager. 551 00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:22,620 All right. 552 00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:23,560 Thank you, Trustee Smith. 553 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,260 And I'm going to invite Mark Rodgers up. 554 00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:26,200 He's our owner's representative. 555 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,740 He's going to walk us through the presentation. 556 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,280 As he's coming up, I just want to note that, on tonight's agenda was introduction of an ordinance 557 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:37,020 authorizing the issuance of general obligation vans to help fund this project. 558 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,940 Moinda is out of town this evening, she'll be back for our next meeting. 559 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,920 So when she's here, that adoption of that ordinance will be off consent. 560 00:40:43,420 --> 00:40:45,580 Moinda can walk us through that in a little bit more detail. 561 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:53,840 We have one site tonight, just to touch on where our financial advisors PMA project us to be in terms of that debt service associated with our project. 562 00:40:55,180 --> 00:40:55,960 All right, good evening. 563 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,140 We have a little bit of a slide to show you tonight. 564 00:41:00,220 --> 00:41:03,800 Hopefully, Eric, let me know if I need to do anything on my hand. 565 00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:07,220 It's on a different screen right now. 566 00:41:07,540 --> 00:41:07,640 Thank you. 567 00:41:08,060 --> 00:41:10,480 It is here. 568 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,720 Should I click present? 569 00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:20,650 Here we go. 570 00:41:21,950 --> 00:41:22,350 All right. 571 00:41:23,490 --> 00:41:27,030 I'll click through and please interrupt with any questions as you think of them. 572 00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:29,950 It'd be more than happy to have this be a discussion as much as a presentation. 573 00:41:30,750 --> 00:41:32,670 So with that, we want to go through construction progress. 574 00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:41,030 risk tracking that we're constantly looking at and evolving with the Project Schedule Project Budget and upcoming activities. 575 00:41:41,970 --> 00:41:45,730 Construction progress, actually, there's been more progress to date from the picture number. 576 00:41:45,850 --> 00:41:49,010 Though from last week, they've actually poured the footings in the bottom right. 577 00:41:49,250 --> 00:41:51,810 It's the cursor here hopefully you can see that. 578 00:41:51,870 --> 00:41:55,570 These are the footings going in and the lower section of the north side of the building. 579 00:41:55,790 --> 00:41:59,010 And actually, out where these people are standing is the deepest part of the excavation. 580 00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:59,970 That's where the elevator's going. 581 00:41:59,970 --> 00:42:05,430 So, you can see we're working our way in the north, down the west, and back in the south, 582 00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:08,810 we're all of the excavation, footings, and foundations. 583 00:42:09,730 --> 00:42:10,630 Demolitions complete. 584 00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:11,950 Obviously, you can see that. 585 00:42:11,950 --> 00:42:14,450 The earth retaining system, and that's what you're seeing in the background. 586 00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:16,630 This picture right here was installed. 587 00:42:17,530 --> 00:42:19,930 The ridge road work is partially complete. 588 00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:23,990 What we mean by that is there's all the underground utilities that they connect in to 589 00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:24,590 ridge road. 590 00:42:24,910 --> 00:42:26,350 Those connections have been made. 591 00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:27,850 Curbs have been adjusted. 592 00:42:28,290 --> 00:42:32,150 there's some additional landscaping. There's going to be more concrete work in the future, but it's been 593 00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:36,310 where we forgot those connections in place already. We'll be back in a ridge road. Right now, 594 00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:41,470 if she's upcoming unrelated to the PD project, there will be some work in ridge road for any of the 595 00:42:41,470 --> 00:42:45,440 resurfacing, so we're making sure we coordinate an allow for any of that work to happen around us. 596 00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:50,850 Separately from that, you've got the excavation substantially complete. Why is it substantially? 597 00:42:51,350 --> 00:42:54,470 As there's multiple parts of this building, if you can imagine, there's a tight constraint. 598 00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:59,130 So the area if you can all remember on the north side is a salary port that's where you come in 599 00:42:59,710 --> 00:43:05,570 You park in that's going to be a separate excavation. They'll come back after they pour the foundations and footings come back and do that 600 00:43:05,570 --> 00:43:09,050 So there's still some ongoing work, but it's following the sequence that's been planned for 601 00:43:10,050 --> 00:43:15,530 Footings and foundations are ongoing concrete was being poured. We have more pores coming to Marl on the foundation wall 602 00:43:15,530 --> 00:43:17,210 So that's good news 603 00:43:17,210 --> 00:43:23,450 In terms of the overall risk tracking, I'll get in the sketch a little more as we go here 604 00:43:24,930 --> 00:43:29,010 We did have, when we first started the project, some additional found the specialists and covered 605 00:43:29,010 --> 00:43:30,850 when we were taking down the walls on the building. 606 00:43:31,390 --> 00:43:32,310 That was mitigated. 607 00:43:32,590 --> 00:43:34,790 There was a additional cost for that. 608 00:43:34,890 --> 00:43:37,570 It was between $67,000 something in that range. 609 00:43:38,490 --> 00:43:41,290 There was no real impact on the actual overall progress. 610 00:43:41,690 --> 00:43:45,730 There was about a five day slow down as they had to go for your additional testing and take 611 00:43:45,730 --> 00:43:47,030 the material out. 612 00:43:47,590 --> 00:43:48,770 But overall, the project was scheduled. 613 00:43:49,130 --> 00:43:52,270 I'll come back this in a minute, wishing not losing time to the contract, 614 00:43:52,270 --> 00:43:53,590 schedule, which is good news. 615 00:43:54,450 --> 00:43:59,270 MWRD approval has also been, I'll say, dragged out the initial 616 00:43:59,270 --> 00:44:03,610 submittal to the MWRD happen way back when in October of 2025. 617 00:44:04,770 --> 00:44:09,550 Just this path past month, we had gotten approval from the MWRD 618 00:44:09,550 --> 00:44:11,610 after six different regions back and forth, 619 00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:13,530 tweaking things, clarifying details. 620 00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:18,450 That has resulted in a two major change orders. 621 00:44:18,510 --> 00:44:20,770 Now, I will say that it's not contract change orders. 622 00:44:20,770 --> 00:44:25,750 We're leaving all the costs for these changes are being absorbed within the contract that Henry 623 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:29,970 Brothers has with the village, but if you recall and we awarded that contract, we had a number of 624 00:44:29,970 --> 00:44:35,730 contingencies and allowances in that contract, we are using those contingencies and allowances 625 00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:41,270 for. We assumed what happened, which is the MWRD, but there are large numbers we wanted to explain them. 626 00:44:41,770 --> 00:44:48,950 The two main parts are one, the atrium axis path, the engineers assumed and we all assumed 627 00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:55,230 and initial conversations that the atrium access path would be allowed to sheetflow in the water could flow over it. 628 00:44:55,350 --> 00:44:59,890 And I believe we've all talked about this a couple of months ago in this room to Howard. 629 00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:16,200 That was not looked at favorably by the MWRD. We are still having some ongoing conversations with the MWRD to see if they'll relent on that, but right now we are anticipating potentially having to use a 3302K based on their comments and requirements for the engineering of the site. 630 00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:23,400 The other portion of it is the onsite stormwater management system. I can go into it in much greater detail if you have questions tonight. 631 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:33,380 The short story is the site was designed and submitted to the MWRD and October with a storm trap system with a concrete bottom. 632 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,940 The concrete bottom did infiltrate below, but it holes in it will call it. 633 00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:44,700 During the review process in December, which is when we were out to bid, MWRD's first comments came back to us. 634 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:50,380 At that point, based in those comments, they revised the system to a storm tank system, 635 00:45:50,380 --> 00:45:56,920 which is a smaller depth to stay away from the waterline and got larger actually. 636 00:45:57,180 --> 00:46:01,900 The system get larger, but it's a storm tank, it had no concrete bottom, it's a cheaper 637 00:46:01,900 --> 00:46:04,820 system overall, so we thought, okay, great. 638 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:11,000 Got bids in based on that, and somewhere around the 5th or the 6th revision, the MWRD 639 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:17,860 changed the approach, again, based on the site conditions, existing soils on the west 640 00:46:17,860 --> 00:46:23,180 of the property, and we found ourselves going back to the original submittal for Bids, the storm 641 00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:29,360 trapped system with a concrete bottom. All that back and forth to say that basically you've been 642 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,140 having to update the drawings and revisions based on the back and forth the engineers, 643 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:38,340 and that is that $410,000 risk item that we have right now. Going back to what was originally 644 00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:43,920 submitted for Bid, but then changed during the Bid process via a dendom on the initial comments. 645 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:53,820 So complicated, I can show pictures if anyone has any inkling or interest, but that's the big dollar amount out there right now. 646 00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:55,640 Just to follow up again. 647 00:46:56,660 --> 00:47:01,100 So we're going back to the plan that we submitted initially, or is it modified? 648 00:47:01,220 --> 00:47:08,220 It's modified still from it, so for instance, based on the soil conditions, they're not allowing infiltration into the soil. 649 00:47:08,220 --> 00:47:14,020 So, over the initial design had a concrete slab, but it had holes basically through to allow for infiltration. 650 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,260 The current system will not allow for that. 651 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:22,380 Also, the current system will be actually deeper than the original submittal by about a foot. 652 00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:24,880 Not a huge difference, but there is a delta. 653 00:47:25,420 --> 00:47:29,720 We'll have roughly and roughly the same amount of capacity. 654 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,140 Again, you know, the weeds, there was actually a point in time. 655 00:47:33,140 --> 00:47:40,060 the end of that was issued was for more capacity because Richard was thought to have to go 656 00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:43,500 into that same system, as you recall from a couple months ago, we were splitting it 657 00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:48,040 out now. There was a lot of back and forth. That's a short story. But yes, we're essentially 658 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,320 back to the same theory, just different details. 659 00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:58,980 So the 410,000 is professional fees or is there no, you've had no cost absorbed by the village 660 00:47:58,980 --> 00:48:02,940 for the engineering back and forth. The engineers have actually done that is part of their 661 00:48:02,940 --> 00:48:08,600 base contract. So the only thing is the betterment of the system itself. So you'll get a credit 662 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:14,740 back for not using tanks, which were bid. I mean, I've never bought them. We have to prove this 663 00:48:14,740 --> 00:48:19,180 middle. There's been no money spent on that. It was just a bid number. But then you'll have to 664 00:48:19,180 --> 00:48:25,500 spend additional funds about 410 on the pad and the storm trap system that we're going to 665 00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:27,220 but they're all hard-cuffs. 666 00:48:27,340 --> 00:48:27,960 All hard-cuffs. 667 00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:29,660 I mean, some are scheduled for the moment. 668 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:30,480 Thank you. 669 00:48:30,580 --> 00:48:30,840 A question? 670 00:48:31,020 --> 00:48:32,860 Well, what's the difference in soils 671 00:48:32,860 --> 00:48:35,720 than I expect, like, what's the determinant on that? 672 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,680 So the site had the NFR, no further remediation letter issued 673 00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:46,640 by the government of drone, like, an acronym, IVH. 674 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,220 That, that basically, you don't have to remediate the soils anymore. 675 00:48:52,220 --> 00:48:55,780 based on what was found there from tanks ages ago. 676 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,220 The MWRD has in their review process, 677 00:49:00,220 --> 00:49:02,220 it kind of changed the structure of they looked at it. 678 00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:04,660 So once we started encroaching closer to that area, 679 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,800 on the east side of the property, 680 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,180 they said, okay, no longer can we infiltrate stormwater 681 00:49:12,180 --> 00:49:12,820 into the ground. 682 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,280 We've got to encapsulate this. 683 00:49:14,420 --> 00:49:17,820 So that review processes would flag them to then go back 684 00:49:17,820 --> 00:49:19,920 to the baseline of saying, no encapsulate it. 685 00:49:19,940 --> 00:49:21,160 And by the way, with that concrete pad, 686 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,160 had there that's great, but that there but don't all the holes in it. Short story. 687 00:49:30,420 --> 00:49:34,980 And think on that, that is one of the larger numbers. You say that there's still a chance 688 00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:44,940 that the HM 332,000 number may go away. There's still a chance I'm being optimistic and saying that 689 00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:51,700 if I was being honest. You're going to have to have someone in a Chicago office of MWRD. You 690 00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:54,400 or someone else who made that different termination. 691 00:49:55,780 --> 00:49:57,800 I don't know how well it will go over. 692 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,320 We've submitted our request. 693 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,680 We're waiting for that. 694 00:50:01,580 --> 00:50:04,020 We're trying, I guess, as a short story, 695 00:50:04,420 --> 00:50:05,000 in multiple avenues. 696 00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:10,660 So again, if you have more questions than that, 697 00:50:10,780 --> 00:50:12,240 I'm happy to answer anything there. 698 00:50:12,740 --> 00:50:15,960 The water and weather, there have been numerous 699 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,260 I'll call it productivity issues on site 700 00:50:19,260 --> 00:50:20,940 because of water management. 701 00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:23,660 I've less left sometimes with the contractors 702 00:50:23,660 --> 00:50:25,340 just to try to make sure we're maintaining momentum 703 00:50:25,340 --> 00:50:28,500 and a good feel on site and that they're doing sometimes 704 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:30,140 more water management than construction. 705 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,520 And they literally had to funnel everything 706 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,880 to the east side of the property so that they could build 707 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,680 the west side and the footings and that. 708 00:50:36,940 --> 00:50:38,300 They're getting through it. 709 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,460 Every time it rains, it takes about a day or two 710 00:50:40,460 --> 00:50:42,120 for the site to dry out. 711 00:50:42,180 --> 00:50:43,700 It is on them to manage. 712 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:45,740 So there is no cost impact on the village. 713 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,380 We did, you know, strategically put that in the contract. 714 00:50:49,340 --> 00:50:53,000 But there's been a time impact, which means that we're trying to make sure we get the building 715 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:59,700 and close with the roofing and the enclosure of any of the metal panels prior to heavy winter. 716 00:51:00,380 --> 00:51:04,240 And so really what we're saying here is we're trying to look at using over time strategically 717 00:51:04,620 --> 00:51:10,440 and over time dollars are very small and for a crew of 10 guys to be out on site you're talking about. 718 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:16,140 And anywhere from a couple hundred dollars or so per guy to be out there for a few hours to make up some of that time, 719 00:51:16,140 --> 00:51:19,300 that's what we're looking at right now and trying to make sure we're staying on schedule. 720 00:51:20,020 --> 00:51:23,600 One of the things I will stand scheduled to is that I called it a delay risk. 721 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,260 The baseline contract with Henry Brothers actually has substantial completion as November 1, 722 00:51:29,260 --> 00:51:35,560 2027. So we are actually still as of the last week, last week's full project update, 723 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,060 trekking on schedule. We're actually trekking to do owner moving on October 27th of 2027. 724 00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:45,920 However, Henry Brothers may first talk to them, we asked them for an aggressive schedule. 725 00:51:46,140 --> 00:51:50,260 trying to make sure we pushed them as much as we could, that aggressive schedule had a baseline 726 00:51:50,260 --> 00:51:54,480 move in a September 27. We're tracking into October obviously, so this is about a 727 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,900 amount of risk because of the other issues identified, but we're still within their contractual 728 00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:05,380 base substantial completion date of November 1, 2022. So it's a risk for monitoring it. We want to 729 00:52:05,380 --> 00:52:07,700 make sure they stay at least in their contractual bounds. 730 00:52:11,710 --> 00:52:13,610 So all of that said, we are on budget. 731 00:52:13,610 --> 00:52:19,190 we had the $41.5 million budget approved in January. We are still on that as of today in 732 00:52:19,550 --> 00:52:25,770 September. We have not touched the $613,000 owner's project cost contingency down below the 733 00:52:25,770 --> 00:52:29,970 line at them. You can see we really haven't changed these numbers. We've just been tracking the experience. 734 00:52:35,580 --> 00:52:43,460 In addition, I will highlight the 34.8 million on their building hard costs. There are contingencies and allowances within 735 00:52:43,460 --> 00:52:49,580 Henry Brothers' contract within that line. Those are shown on the screen here in the contract line item value. 736 00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:55,280 can not get too into the weeds, but we are tracking every individual potential change order. 737 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,460 That goes into the approved pending column that we summarized to $972. 738 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:04,780 The bulk of that over $742,000 is towards the MWRD. 739 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,940 The balance of it is permitting revision, so permitting revisions. 740 00:53:08,140 --> 00:53:12,880 We went up to bed as we were going through some of the permitting department of corrections, the village, 741 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,760 fire, there's a lot of different permits you have to get a fist up a project. 742 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:24,760 That resulted in a post-bid, and then under the drawings, that's 131,000. 743 00:53:24,980 --> 00:53:30,580 I can sum that up to basically being some fire rating changes on doors and wall types, 744 00:53:31,140 --> 00:53:36,960 and changes in the masonry details around the detention area to make sure it was to 745 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,160 proper, where would get approval from a code jurisdiction? Code jurisdiction? 746 00:53:43,820 --> 00:53:44,800 Is it fair to assume 747 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:53,440 on this that we are in pretty good shape now on our considerable soils risk? And I would 748 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,900 assume on our general permit review risk? Is that fair statement or do you suggest items? 749 00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:03,560 Yes, items. No, it's such stuff. I first take anything else that the contingent on the contingency 750 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:08,060 list here where you would say we've more or less passed the risk window for it. 751 00:54:08,060 --> 00:54:12,000 I think I want to make sure that we get through a couple of inspections, but the Department 752 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,200 of Corrections allowance. 753 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,140 Most of those costs that was actually pertaining to the, you know, masonry changes that 754 00:54:18,140 --> 00:54:20,180 I mentioned for the general permit review. 755 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,120 Because it's one change order. 756 00:54:22,220 --> 00:54:23,220 It's easy to track it in one line. 757 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,500 I'm just splitting it up. 758 00:54:25,180 --> 00:54:26,620 But that's substantially passed. 759 00:54:27,340 --> 00:54:29,180 So there's a few numbers that we can roll off. 760 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:30,880 It's speaking of that. 761 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,820 I know one of the things that we talked about over the past 12 months is 762 00:54:34,820 --> 00:54:39,400 concerns about tariffs and how they could impact some of the things that are being bought for 763 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,040 this. 764 00:54:40,580 --> 00:54:46,440 Has that risk now passed because everything is in the process of being bought and we have 765 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,680 locked in those prices or is there still some risk? 766 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:56,080 I'd say there's still minor risk if a contractor wants to come out of the field and try to 767 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:56,600 claim something. 768 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,180 We've had multiple discussions and Mr. Raymond actually brought it up even last week and 769 00:55:01,180 --> 00:55:04,920 meetings and basically said, hey, what is a risk in the contractor, actually 770 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:10,160 volunteered saying, we're going to tell them, no, at this point, we're through 771 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,660 that process. It's not to see that the subcontractor won't attempt to, or 772 00:55:13,660 --> 00:55:18,260 there's some change, like we've seen the past week, I'd say, you know, in Canada, 773 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,740 that something isn't going to pop up and we have to deal with it. But right now, 774 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,160 no one is crying for. 775 00:55:25,860 --> 00:55:30,960 And the vast majority of our steel's already purchased in within possession of 100 brothers, right? 776 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,220 Yes, so a lot of the major purchases that could be at risk with Canadian tariffs have already been made, 777 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,220 so that they're going to get the risk. 778 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,240 Yeah, so steel, the material itself has substantially been bought. 779 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:50,280 Actually, the current pay up on reviewing right now has the elevator, and so there's a lot of parts and pieces that have been bought. 780 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,940 Not the electrical equipment. That was one of the items we were talking about before. 781 00:55:55,180 --> 00:55:59,240 That's actually on a PAP. I was reviewing as a sitting back there, switchboards and 782 00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:03,540 panelboards, they're all ordered. So that's great news. 783 00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:06,600 So there's a fixed price there. We got it. This is what happens in the world. 784 00:56:07,220 --> 00:56:12,300 Correct. And they're even submitting pictures of them and certificates of insurance for 785 00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:14,720 the material, not all of them, but substantial amount. 786 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:15,500 It's great. 787 00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:23,710 So Mr. Brayman alluded to earlier. 788 00:56:23,710 --> 00:56:33,350 One of the items that was on the agenda earlier was the introduction of the ordinance for the issuance of the general obligation bonds associated with the project. 789 00:56:33,710 --> 00:56:50,050 What we've laid out here is one of the scenarios for that bond issuance looking at a single issuance over a 30 year term and a utilization of around $8 million in reserves and what the outcomes are associated with that. 790 00:56:50,050 --> 00:56:53,390 Now, ultimately, we plan on having future finance, 791 00:56:53,890 --> 00:56:57,690 committed discussions to finalize what these terms are going to be, 792 00:56:57,710 --> 00:56:59,790 whether there's going to be two issuances, 793 00:57:00,210 --> 00:57:03,010 whether we look at that term, or what that reserve, 794 00:57:03,010 --> 00:57:06,090 final reserve usage amount is going to be. 795 00:57:06,350 --> 00:57:08,930 But really, the intent here is to show what that 796 00:57:08,930 --> 00:57:13,010 total outcome may be for what our annual debt service 797 00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:14,590 expectation is. 798 00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:18,530 And so under this scenario, what we're looking at is around 799 00:57:18,530 --> 00:57:25,030 a total of around 2.45 million dollars in annual debt service and if we go back in time and 800 00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:31,430 look at what our financial goals were for the planning for the free station was to use a portion 801 00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:36,870 for the police station debt service and also to use another portion for the funding of the road 802 00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:45,850 program. So under this example we still have a remaining $1.3 million available to help fund the 803 00:57:45,850 --> 00:57:52,970 program. So we just wanted to provide this as an example of that financial stewardship that 804 00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:58,730 is that this board has provided and pass boards have provided to be able to put us in this 805 00:57:58,730 --> 00:58:04,230 position to be able to be in a positive position outcome for what are expected annual debt 806 00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:09,990 services and the available funds that we have for that future road program. One of the other 807 00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:16,550 things that we had talked about during the finance community was kind of our risk that we had 808 00:58:16,550 --> 00:58:23,410 on the interest rates side and kind of where we interest rates would have to go to before that, 809 00:58:23,410 --> 00:58:30,170 I guess, 1.3 million delta kind of is eaten up by additional debt service. And so we have 810 00:58:30,170 --> 00:58:36,750 PMA, our financial advisors run that analysis, and our interest rates would need to increase 811 00:58:36,750 --> 00:58:40,210 by an incremental 4.5%. 812 00:58:40,210 --> 00:58:43,130 So right now, we're assuming a total interest cost rate 813 00:58:43,130 --> 00:58:44,490 of around 4.6. 814 00:58:44,990 --> 00:58:50,050 Those would have to rise to around just above 9% overall 815 00:58:50,050 --> 00:58:53,490 before we wouldn't have any additional capacity left 816 00:58:53,490 --> 00:58:54,370 for the road program. 817 00:58:54,510 --> 00:58:55,870 So we just wanted to give that number 818 00:58:55,870 --> 00:58:58,590 of risks, but that's one of the discussion points 819 00:58:58,590 --> 00:59:00,650 we've had with the Finance Committee 820 00:59:00,650 --> 00:59:02,930 about the bond issuance number over time. 821 00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:05,870 But Ms. Willoy will be back at the next meeting 822 00:59:05,870 --> 00:59:11,770 for the approval of the issuance, and we'll have additional conversations in the next step 823 00:59:11,770 --> 00:59:18,170 forward on our conversations with the Finance Committee about the final parameters for the 824 00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:18,770 issuance. 825 00:59:19,410 --> 00:59:26,990 So, Mr. Hopper, just to make this really clear, we have existing debt service that is rolling 826 00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:27,570 off. 827 00:59:28,250 --> 00:59:34,970 So, within the debt service that is rolling off, not only can we fund the police station, 828 00:59:34,970 --> 00:59:41,810 and we can fund an additional $1.3 million for roads and none of that raises taxes. 829 00:59:41,950 --> 00:59:42,950 That is correct. 830 00:59:44,810 --> 00:59:46,050 We're in the Finance Committee. 831 00:59:46,210 --> 00:59:50,530 We've discussed, as you mentioned, potentially two issuances. 832 00:59:50,970 --> 00:59:55,630 I understand this to be an illustrative exhibit. 833 00:59:56,490 --> 00:59:59,970 Is there anything that we should read into the one single issue? 834 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,480 If you want to hear other than the illustration, if you change your minds at all, or do we just want to talk about it at a future date, which is fine with me? 835 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,340 So given the volatility in the market and the raising rates, 836 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,100 Melinda and her discussions with PMA is leaning towards one issue, 837 01:00:17,380 --> 01:00:18,200 to take out that future. 838 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,500 But still a discussion to be had with the finance community 839 01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:22,360 to drill under that one. 840 01:00:23,180 --> 01:00:23,820 That's what I was wondering. 841 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,600 Do we serve on it? 842 01:00:25,740 --> 01:00:26,340 Do we serve on it? 843 01:00:26,340 --> 01:00:26,660 Do we serve on it? 844 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,840 Do we serve on the issue in size? 845 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,140 Because potentially we look at a private placement 846 01:00:34,140 --> 01:00:37,660 depending on the second issue and depending on that size. 847 01:00:37,660 --> 01:00:44,280 So there potentially be some savings, but it all depends on the size of each individual. 848 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:51,620 Mr. Breman, given the volatility that you just mentioned, is there any thought in 849 01:00:51,620 --> 01:00:58,200 this or any possibility to say, hey, we don't have to do this right now. We can take a breath 850 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:03,100 and do this three months from now or six months from now. Where is that not really a possibility? 851 01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:08,520 So the ordinance gives authorization to show that I think up to March, so there's some 852 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:08,800 flexibility. 853 01:01:09,020 --> 01:01:12,300 So that's what we'll work with the Finance Committee on the timing of it in the mechanics 854 01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:13,400 and when we want to go out. 855 01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:19,320 So we have a cash on hand that we can float ourselves for several more months as we work through 856 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:20,020 the process. 857 01:01:21,540 --> 01:01:27,820 And the fact that those finance many meetings are going to kind of make the final decision on 858 01:01:27,820 --> 01:01:30,200 how many how much we want to extend in our research. 859 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,080 Okay, I'm going to report back to the notes board and make sure everybody's on board. 860 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,160 It's my commitment. 861 01:01:34,420 --> 01:01:34,520 Yeah. 862 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,080 So if we spend this $8 million, 863 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,560 what does that do to our reserve percentages and our goals? 864 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,060 Is that better discussed later? 865 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:53,200 So the $8 million is what we're over our recommended amount. 866 01:01:53,460 --> 01:01:56,360 So we're $10 million over our minimum reserve level. 867 01:01:56,580 --> 01:01:57,820 So that there's still a buffer there. 868 01:01:57,820 --> 01:02:01,660 So the eight gives us enough cover where we're still 869 01:02:01,660 --> 01:02:03,780 going from a triple A bond rating perspective. 870 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,680 It's our target, right? 871 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,820 We're not below minimum reserve levels by using these. 872 01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:12,740 I know there are some rules about it, but if we did do one issue, 873 01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:17,780 we'd be able to earn interest on that over time, although there's limits to that. 874 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:22,960 And we have talked to the reading authorities about what that would do. 875 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,740 If I were do you think our reserve from $8 million was that would affect our rating, but not? 876 01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:35,560 And so the community knows our AAA rating was just reaffirmed by Moody's a week or so ago. 877 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,420 That's a good spot to be in going into a large issue. 878 01:02:41,230 --> 01:02:41,730 It's big. 879 01:02:45,620 --> 01:02:51,800 So upcoming owner activities, besides the bond, I would be ongoing construction oversight of the next few months, 880 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,700 heading into the winter work, when we're pushing on them to get it as enclosed as possible. 881 01:02:55,700 --> 01:03:00,020 We'll say steel will be starting here in the next about a month or so. 882 01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:03,340 You'll start to see the steel come in the basement and then actually an October November 883 01:03:03,340 --> 01:03:07,780 and December, you'll appear at a C pre-cast place going in, the pre-cast place will be the 884 01:03:07,780 --> 01:03:10,200 floor slabs as they go up. 885 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:15,160 So you'll start to see a building there as we get into December, which would be great news. 886 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,560 Utilized coordination is ongoing, we actually just got an update from ComEd, they're going to 887 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:24,000 be looking at running some new lines to the neighbors on the north and the atrium side. 888 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,080 certainly will be contacting them to court aid. 889 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,380 That work, NICORE is going to be on site the next week or so is recording their locations. 890 01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:36,080 AT&T and Comcast are both being coordinated with in the background design team to still 891 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,580 going through for an insurance equipment procurement. 892 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,720 We anticipate the equipment procurement will probably start towards the end of this year. 893 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,380 That's about a year out from when it's needed. 894 01:03:44,820 --> 01:03:47,340 It's not too early where you're speccing things that are outdated and already, 895 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,880 but it's also really enough that if you have a long lead item in the server switch, 896 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,300 whatever that might be, that you have time to procure it. 897 01:03:53,300 --> 01:04:03,700 and then furniture that will throw throwing through to the board in Q1 of 2027 because we will need to bring care of those in multiple packages most likely. 898 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,240 Any questions for me? 899 01:04:08,210 --> 01:04:19,090 Just to note, the first few weeks October when the steel starts to come out on site will send an email to the board members if you'd like to come out there and visit the site and talk with the construction team they can walk you through their process. 900 01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:22,970 I think they'd be happy to miss them being in the site trailer with them that I'm going to do. 901 01:04:23,690 --> 01:04:24,350 That was fine. 902 01:04:24,610 --> 01:04:26,090 I have a second about it. 903 01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:30,530 You're expecting full enclosure by when? 904 01:04:30,930 --> 01:04:32,030 And if Q1 is that amazing? 905 01:04:32,170 --> 01:04:35,210 Yeah, and if Q1 is a good target, hopefully a little bit sooner. 906 01:04:35,930 --> 01:04:38,350 The roof material can go on in cold weather. 907 01:04:38,550 --> 01:04:39,250 We can't have it. 908 01:04:40,270 --> 01:04:44,850 Obviously freezing snowing things like that, but we can go on in below freezing temperatures. 909 01:04:46,430 --> 01:04:51,570 So, really what's going to happen and go through January, most likely, so if you want to next year. 910 01:04:51,870 --> 01:04:57,370 And do you have traditional weather days, snow days in your plan? 911 01:04:57,610 --> 01:05:04,230 So, if there's a hit to the sketchbook, it needs to be over and above the average for the area. 912 01:05:04,410 --> 01:05:07,530 So, we've stipulated it instead of finding a random number and throwing it in. 913 01:05:08,110 --> 01:05:10,530 They basically had to prove it's more than normal. 914 01:05:10,530 --> 01:05:17,570 So, haven't obviously there's been discussions about the weather as it relates to being able 915 01:05:17,570 --> 01:05:21,390 to get fully enclosed, but not on the overall schedule itself. 916 01:05:25,730 --> 01:05:26,290 Thank you. 917 01:05:26,370 --> 01:05:29,150 This is a really helpful detailed update. 918 01:05:30,450 --> 01:05:35,590 Really appreciate the line by line oversight and you made it so easy to understand each 919 01:05:35,590 --> 01:05:36,890 everything that's going on. 920 01:05:36,890 --> 01:05:38,330 So I think it's helpful for us. 921 01:05:38,370 --> 01:05:40,950 I think it's helpful for the community to hear. 922 01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:51,970 and so glad that we have you and this oversight of this, you know, one of our biggest construction building construction projects, so thank you. 923 01:05:51,970 --> 01:05:53,950 I'll be working with a team, so good team. 924 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:56,940 Good evening. 925 01:05:57,780 --> 01:05:58,200 Thank you. 926 01:05:58,220 --> 01:05:58,760 Thank you. 927 01:05:59,940 --> 01:06:01,160 Anything else, Trustee Smith? 928 01:06:01,700 --> 01:06:03,340 All of their items are on consent. 929 01:06:03,860 --> 01:06:05,440 Hey, could you share a trustee lever? 930 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:06,740 No report. 931 01:06:08,220 --> 01:06:10,880 No reports from special committees and no new business. 932 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,680 So I have two motions. 933 01:06:17,570 --> 01:06:20,630 I move that we adjourn to executive session pursuant 934 01:06:20,630 --> 01:06:23,230 Deception 2C2 of the Open Meetings Act, 935 01:06:23,350 --> 01:06:25,590 pertaining to collective negotiating matters 936 01:06:25,590 --> 01:06:28,050 and deliberations concerning scourry schedules. 937 01:06:29,010 --> 01:06:31,530 And I move that we adjourn to executive session 938 01:06:31,530 --> 01:06:35,230 pursuant Deception 2C21 of the Open Meetings Act, 939 01:06:35,350 --> 01:06:37,410 regarding discussion of minutes of meetings 940 01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:39,330 lawfully closed under this act. 941 01:06:39,890 --> 01:06:40,910 Is there a second? 942 01:06:40,910 --> 01:06:41,550 Second. 943 01:06:41,790 --> 01:06:45,130 It's been moved in second and Mr. Halvin could you please call the roll? 944 01:06:45,330 --> 01:06:45,950 Trustee Leonard. 945 01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:47,530 Trustee Sheppard? 946 01:06:47,790 --> 01:06:48,790 Trustee steam? 947 01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:50,230 Trustee Weaver? 948 01:06:50,650 --> 01:06:50,750 Aye. 949 01:06:51,230 --> 01:06:51,590 Trustee Smith? 950 01:06:51,850 --> 01:06:52,110 Aye. 951 01:06:52,570 --> 01:06:53,110 Trustee Kennedy? 952 01:06:53,250 --> 01:06:53,550 Aye. 953 01:06:55,070 --> 01:06:56,110 So moved. 954 01:06:56,250 --> 01:06:57,850 We will now adjourn to executive session. 955 01:06:58,170 --> 01:06:58,450 Thank you.