1 00:00:51,540 --> 00:00:58,200 We'd like to call this September 17th, 2026. We'll make to the City Council regular meeting to order, roll call, please. 2 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:10,660 Sleva, snar, here, wells, here, early, german, here. All members are present and we have a quorum. Please stand with me for the pledge of allegiance. 3 00:01:10,660 --> 00:01:11,380 to 4 00:01:16,370 --> 00:01:23,530 the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, or which stands, one nation 5 00:01:24,290 --> 00:01:28,730 undergold, individual with liberty and justice for all. 6 00:01:32,570 --> 00:01:33,810 Please join me for a moment of silence. 7 00:01:44,580 --> 00:01:45,000 Thank you. 8 00:01:47,750 --> 00:01:51,750 Our next item is the President's portion of the agenda. 9 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:55,070 First item is to review and approve the agenda. 10 00:01:55,670 --> 00:01:57,910 Are there any changes or additions necessary? 11 00:02:01,460 --> 00:02:04,820 Senegal, Intertain Emotion to accept the agenda as presented. 12 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,060 So moved? 13 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:06,300 Second. 14 00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:10,520 I have motion by Mr. Numbles, a second by Mr. Early to accept the agenda. 15 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,900 All in favour, signify by saying aye. 16 00:02:13,980 --> 00:02:18,120 pose like so, and the agenda is approved. 17 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:24,080 The second item is reviewing approval of the September 3rd regular Council meeting minutes. 18 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,180 Are there any changes or additions to that? 19 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:34,180 I'll make a motion for acceptance as presented. 20 00:02:34,820 --> 00:02:46,060 Second, I have a motion to accept the September 3rd regular council meeting minutes as presented by Mr. Null, second by Mr. Toliver, all in favour, signify by C&I. 21 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,460 Those opposed like sign. 22 00:02:51,260 --> 00:02:56,440 Motion passes and the minutes from September 3rd are approved. 23 00:02:57,020 --> 00:03:03,760 The next item is moving into executive session, so I'll ask for someone to move that forward in just a moment. 24 00:03:04,620 --> 00:03:13,300 We will counsel will be exiting to the service director's office just seems like it's much easier than moving people in the gallery. 25 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:15,820 We don't expect it to be very long. 26 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:21,220 We do from the standpoint of having to make your weight, so I apologize for that. 27 00:03:21,220 --> 00:03:29,720 Don't expect it to be very long in no action from the executive session legislatively tonight. 28 00:03:30,780 --> 00:03:38,760 So, and we will invite Mr. Roth, Ms. Warren, and Council members. 29 00:03:40,260 --> 00:03:42,220 So, and I think that's all I need. 30 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,220 Mr. Crop. 31 00:03:44,660 --> 00:03:45,620 Mr. Crop. 32 00:03:46,300 --> 00:03:48,980 All right, so may I have a motion please. 33 00:03:48,980 --> 00:03:54,600 Mr. President, I'd like to move the council inter executive session under a higher revised 34 00:03:54,600 --> 00:04:00,960 code section 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, G5 matters required to be kept confidential by federal law 35 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:07,900 regulations or state statutes specifically revised code 9.66D and G8 economic development. 36 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:16,900 This specifically pertains to an exemption granted under revised code section 57 and 9.61357 and 9.69. 37 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,660 I have a motion to move into executive session by Mr. Toliver, second by Mr. Early. 38 00:04:24,340 --> 00:04:24,880 Roll call please. 39 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:25,800 Sleva? Yes. 40 00:04:26,020 --> 00:04:27,120 Snar? Yes. 41 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,020 Wells? Yes. 42 00:04:28,060 --> 00:04:28,840 Early? Yes. 43 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,120 Noles? Yes. 44 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,600 German? Yes. Toliver. 45 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,220 Yes. 46 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:38,860 Motion passes 70 and we're moving into executive session at 703. 47 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:40,020 Would they be able to have something to know about you? 48 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,160 You know, it's a bit 49 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:46,630 of a failure. 50 00:06:53,950 --> 00:06:55,590 But you know what you're watching? 51 00:06:55,810 --> 00:06:56,470 What's up, man? 52 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:07,800 What's up, man? 53 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:08,560 What's up, man? 54 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:08,960 What's up? 55 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,760 . 56 00:17:54,020 --> 00:17:55,420 . 57 00:18:11,470 --> 00:18:12,870 . 58 00:18:12,870 --> 00:18:12,950 . 59 00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:13,490 . 60 00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:48,100 We go up to the Earth, not even a little bit more than ever, and we can't reach the full Sun, but we can't reach the upper Sun. 61 00:23:53,810 --> 00:23:58,190 We have returned from executive session, could I have a motion to exit executive 62 00:23:58,190 --> 00:23:59,190 session please? 63 00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:59,890 Second. 64 00:24:01,230 --> 00:24:03,990 I have a motion to exit executive session by Mr. 65 00:24:04,110 --> 00:24:05,610 Noles a second by Mr. Early. 66 00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:07,170 Roll call please? 67 00:24:07,230 --> 00:24:07,730 Snar. 68 00:24:09,550 --> 00:24:09,750 Yes. 69 00:24:10,170 --> 00:24:11,050 Well, yes. 70 00:24:11,370 --> 00:24:11,610 Early? 71 00:24:12,190 --> 00:24:12,210 Yes. 72 00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:12,930 Noles? 73 00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:13,270 Yes. 74 00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:14,210 Garmin? Yes. 75 00:24:14,430 --> 00:24:15,470 Toliver? Yes. 76 00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:15,870 Slave off. 77 00:24:17,050 --> 00:24:22,330 Motion passes 70 and we have exit executive session at 7.23. 78 00:24:24,170 --> 00:24:27,210 And we're ready to move to item 7 on our agenda. 79 00:24:27,210 --> 00:24:32,790 comments from members of the public, so do we have our first speaker, please? 80 00:24:33,070 --> 00:24:34,010 Levi-Zane. 81 00:24:37,020 --> 00:24:39,900 Welcome, Sir, if you'll state your name again in your address. 82 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,740 Levi-Zane, 290-Berdale, what do you think I'll do? 83 00:24:44,060 --> 00:24:45,140 I'll find this real quick. 84 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:53,120 I don't know what it will take to see it to coordinate the stop lights in town. 85 00:24:54,820 --> 00:24:59,140 I can drive through homeless all high, is it that I can drive through a well-mitted? 86 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:04,480 And a lot of people don't want to even come down to town because you can stop literally 87 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,620 at every stop like they're so how to say 88 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,560 just the thought of them. 89 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,180 All right. 90 00:25:13,180 --> 00:25:13,980 Thank you, sir. 91 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:14,760 Thank you. 92 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:24,870 The other one was, we have a four-way stop at Dustin Wall, which is behind the Earl and 93 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:25,730 all of it playing. 94 00:25:26,570 --> 00:25:33,550 It's for a way because back in the day, when Earl was there, their parking lot was out 95 00:25:33,550 --> 00:25:39,490 back and sold, when the people were coming going, it was literally a poor way stop, but now 96 00:25:39,490 --> 00:25:45,810 there's nothing back there. It's just an empty field. So there's no reason for that to be 97 00:25:45,810 --> 00:25:52,790 a poor way stop. It just changed that. Yeah, but are you talking about the north-south 98 00:25:52,790 --> 00:26:07,790 Stop signs for me, okay, if we could, if we could, if we could just limit it to comment and then we can get get the administration to follow up with you. 99 00:26:07,790 --> 00:26:10,610 And the other thing is just all the requirements. 100 00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:18,330 I hope I didn't know who was the talk to your last meeting, but he was obviously running 101 00:26:18,330 --> 00:26:28,070 from mayor and it was, I don't think, you know, he's probably me as a singer for campaign 102 00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:29,010 for office. 103 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:32,320 That's fine. 104 00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:33,120 That's all I had. 105 00:26:33,380 --> 00:26:33,640 All right. 106 00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:34,300 Thank you, sir. 107 00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:35,320 Thank you, Levi. 108 00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:50,900 Good afternoon. 109 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,260 Good afternoon. 110 00:26:53,260 --> 00:26:53,280 Good afternoon. 111 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:59,340 My name is John Romer, and I'm a resident of Wilmington, I live at 1040 Higry Trail Drive. 112 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:07,140 So tonight, I want to have my comments regarding a number of things that occurred in our last meeting, and I'd like to comment on them. 113 00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:15,280 But first, interesting fact, today is the anniversary of the U.S. Constitution being signed in 1787. 114 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,640 And everything that we do in here is controlled by constitutions. 115 00:27:21,620 --> 00:27:25,920 So first, there's a lot of questions last time about the emergency ordinance. 116 00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:27,700 And they never got answered. 117 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,320 We went back and forth. 118 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,520 So this cut to the chase. 119 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,420 These ordinances were passed as emergencies for one reason and one reason only. 120 00:27:39,420 --> 00:27:47,760 Under U.S. Constitution Article 2, Section 1D, and revised code 731-29 and 731-30, an emergency 121 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:54,840 clause exempts some ordinance from the referendum, which means it takes away the rights 122 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:01,060 of the citizen voters to do anything against it, any normal ordinance can have a referendum, 123 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,820 but not an emergency. 124 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:09,580 So, the goal is to take away the residents' right to challenge is that the ballot box that 125 00:28:09,580 --> 00:28:11,780 was a simple answer, and it should have been provided. 126 00:28:12,780 --> 00:28:16,720 By the way, citizens of the rights are not covered by the NDA. 127 00:28:17,620 --> 00:28:22,080 So, there was no reason we couldn't have been discussing that, that was nothing to do with 128 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,740 that. 129 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,500 Second, there were some issues about data centers and how important it is. 130 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:44,740 I think all of you probably know who Kevin O'Leary is, he's famous for this chart tank, and he was the one that started the claim that there was communists that were going out and funding things to stop data centers, and we had to do things, and we created a red spirit. 131 00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:56,680 Interestingly enough, if you know, he's behind the straddest project, which at the time he proposed it was a 40,000 acre data center, he's since been required to make it smaller. 132 00:28:57,420 --> 00:29:04,300 However, after he made that claim, he retracted it and he is claim publicly and you can look 133 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:11,300 up that he has no evidence that any communist or any Chinese anything to do with the opposition 134 00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:12,620 to the data centers. 135 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,420 So, no, they're not trying to do it. 136 00:29:14,620 --> 00:29:20,560 Nor are we following behind China in data centers attract us a lot from what they do for 137 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,100 my job. 138 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:29,780 The U.S. has more data centers than the next 10 countries combined, over 4,400, China 139 00:29:29,780 --> 00:29:31,020 has 370. 140 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,580 China does have some very large data centers, but none as large as the hyper data centers 141 00:29:36,580 --> 00:29:37,800 that we have. 142 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:48,860 Virginia has brought up last time, has up to 35% of the capacity of the data centers in the 143 00:29:48,860 --> 00:29:53,040 They will have more capacity than China and Europe. 144 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:53,780 Thank you. 145 00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:54,840 Thank you, Mr. Aurora. 146 00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:59,090 Gary Huffenberger. 147 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,340 Gary 148 00:30:04,030 --> 00:30:05,170 Huffenberger, 149 00:30:21,790 --> 00:30:27,810 President Osborne, Director Williams, Gary Huffenberger, 340 Southwall, Wilmington. 150 00:30:29,290 --> 00:30:40,750 When proposed legislation is known to be debatable, holding the three stipulated, stipulated readings on three days provides more opportunities for citizens to weigh in. 151 00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:45,890 In addition, lawmakers and cells can benefit from further time to clarify and deliberate. 152 00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:51,730 Indeed, we saw this unfold at the August 6 meeting in connection with the original, 153 00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:58,710 homeless camping ordinance, and it's section 551.02 on sleeping. 154 00:31:00,610 --> 00:31:05,070 After feedback, the sleeping section was revised and can be found in the newly minted 155 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:07,730 bodily obstruction ordinance. 156 00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:15,310 So, I'm asking you to consider having the second readings only of the homeless camping and 157 00:31:15,310 --> 00:31:17,670 bodily obstruction laws tonight. 158 00:31:21,890 --> 00:31:26,030 Outlooks differ on how risky or safe the parks and trails are. 159 00:31:26,510 --> 00:31:30,810 This summer, the door of Hope Church, Hale Vacation Bible School, with about 40 children 160 00:31:30,810 --> 00:31:32,530 at Southeast Community Park. 161 00:31:33,770 --> 00:31:40,030 And then the recent talk, a caveman, a cycling without age volunteer, Terry Schleiball, said 162 00:31:40,030 --> 00:31:45,410 she did not regard the Luther war and peace path as safe than she would not transport 163 00:31:45,410 --> 00:31:52,970 senior citizens and others with limited mobility in a trash off bicycle on the trail as she 164 00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:53,750 does repeatedly. 165 00:31:57,750 --> 00:32:01,370 When it comes to John and James you public assessing the riskiness of the 166 00:32:01,370 --> 00:32:06,750 parks it would have been useful if the parks and director and his most in his recent letter to 167 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:14,150 Council had included numerical counts, or numerical estimates, for the serenetals and human 168 00:32:14,150 --> 00:32:17,510 feces found in the parks, along with the timeframe. 169 00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:24,090 Such numerical data could help us get a clearer picture of the level of risk. 170 00:32:27,410 --> 00:32:32,430 And lastly, there has been some talk roughly amounting to take back the parts. 171 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:40,940 However, the earth is the Lord's and the fullness of their earth. 172 00:32:41,780 --> 00:32:43,020 Thank you. 173 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,360 Thank you, Mr. Huffenberger. 174 00:32:48,010 --> 00:32:48,570 Another speaker. 175 00:32:49,290 --> 00:32:50,510 Dustin Pierce. 176 00:32:52,550 --> 00:32:54,030 He's just stepped out. 177 00:32:54,490 --> 00:32:55,490 We could go around. 178 00:32:56,350 --> 00:32:57,390 Patricia Thomas. 179 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,660 Go ahead, Mrs. Thomas. 180 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,820 We'll catch Mr. Pierce here in just a moment. 181 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,880 Patricia Thomas, two-nine-two, alumni circle, Wilmington. 182 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:21,630 I bring my concerns tonight with the belief that we're all interested in a safe community. 183 00:33:22,450 --> 00:33:26,330 I do have several questions and concerns about the camping ordinance, however. 184 00:33:27,270 --> 00:33:33,790 First, I'm concerned that the no camping ordinance allows taking a personal belongings without the order being present. 185 00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:41,050 The ordinance reads the city May, post 24 hour notice before removing all personal belongings. 186 00:33:41,050 --> 00:33:49,290 I know how painful and frustrating it is to have no control over who inspects or walks off with your personal belongings. 187 00:33:50,330 --> 00:33:58,950 I encounter dozens of homeless women who have had things taken away by the authorities that are never returned when she goes to reclaim them. 188 00:33:59,230 --> 00:34:06,730 It's devastating to show up at the designated desk to be told the person in charge of storage cannot find your purse, 189 00:34:06,730 --> 00:34:12,770 or your paper bag you have been carefully storing your personal documents in, or the phone 190 00:34:12,770 --> 00:34:14,710 you saved up for months to purchase. 191 00:34:16,050 --> 00:34:22,770 Hosting notice of seizure after 24 hours, no grants a degree of ownership and invites 192 00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:28,170 the owners to take responsibility for his own own property, and the fact that they have 193 00:34:28,170 --> 00:34:31,310 broken the law regarding camping on public property. 194 00:34:31,310 --> 00:34:39,310 If the goal is to clean up unsanitary campsites on public property, giving the occupant 24-hour 195 00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:45,050 notice to move on themselves before seizing their personal belongings and accomplices 196 00:34:45,870 --> 00:34:51,170 the goal of restoring the space for the public to use and enjoy. 197 00:34:52,490 --> 00:34:55,790 I'm also wondering about what is allowed. 198 00:34:56,430 --> 00:35:06,900 The ordinance reads that an individual must have a shelter and or bedding of some sort, like a bedroom, before he or she is told to pack up and move on. 199 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:19,770 I ask, because I'm acquainted with the homeless woman who works until closing in the early morning hours, and then after eight hours on her feet, walks the two miles or so back into town. 200 00:35:19,770 --> 00:35:26,830 By the end of his four o'clock in the morning, so she often sits on a picnic bench in the Denver Williams Park, 201 00:35:27,450 --> 00:35:29,810 Rester had on the tabletop and falls asleep. 202 00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:33,370 Sometimes she'll cover up with a coat to stay warm. 203 00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:39,250 Is she at risk of being awakened and told to move on or subject to a rest? 204 00:35:40,010 --> 00:35:41,830 She too needs to go to the bathroom. 205 00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:44,590 But the bathroom's locked up for the night. 206 00:35:45,010 --> 00:35:47,650 What choice is left, but to go on the grass? 207 00:35:48,830 --> 00:35:52,370 I'd also like to know about sleeping in your RV camper. 208 00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:59,270 Does the ordinance allow spending the night in a self-contained RV parked on a city street? 209 00:35:59,770 --> 00:36:03,650 In a city park, or shopping parking, or center parking lot. 210 00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:04,650 Thank you. 211 00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:06,310 Thank you, Ms. Thomas. 212 00:36:11,850 --> 00:36:12,610 Dustin Pierce? 213 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:16,860 Welcome. 214 00:36:16,860 --> 00:36:23,570 And my allowed to pass out these accounts are someone allowed to pass them out for me if you could 215 00:36:23,570 --> 00:36:24,870 hand them to you know. 216 00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:25,750 Well, director Horde. 217 00:36:28,670 --> 00:36:34,010 So these are just the, this is the city council goals for the city of Lebanon. 218 00:36:34,590 --> 00:36:37,650 I know a lot of cities have annual goals that their council creates. 219 00:36:38,570 --> 00:36:43,410 So obviously I'm running for mayor to promote a council manager government and that structure 220 00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:49,750 basically city council just has more input into an overseen of the city administration. 221 00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:55,710 So I thought I was neat the city of up and on their website actually post their annual 222 00:36:55,710 --> 00:37:00,750 goals for council, which is neat because it's been its transparent for the community of what 223 00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:06,450 the city is trying to do and the city council then pulls the administration responsible or 224 00:37:06,450 --> 00:37:10,790 accountable every year to achieve these goals. And there are goals in different categories 225 00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:17,870 things like public safety, attracting new hotels, paving streets on certain roads, getting 226 00:37:17,870 --> 00:37:22,330 grants for infrastructure. I don't have that much to say at night. I just thought I'd 227 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:37,180 And maybe something to consider council could do, or administration could do that at some point down the road. 228 00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:45,160 The reason I think it could be important for us, because I think clearly defining where Wilmington wants to go as a city, 229 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:53,860 could potentially help residents from spending time and resources fighting against the things that they don't want. 230 00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:55,620 which seems to happen a lot. 231 00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:59,320 We have people who fight against high-density apartments 232 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,080 in front of tempered land, people who fight against 233 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,920 high-result data centers behind tempered land. 234 00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:06,040 There's just a lot of fighting and things we don't want. 235 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,700 But I think if the city took some initiative to 236 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:12,120 clearly define what we do want and works towards those goals 237 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,600 that could potentially help. 238 00:38:14,020 --> 00:38:14,820 Just some thoughts. 239 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,020 So I just learned to be so free to look at for what it's worth. 240 00:38:19,220 --> 00:38:20,340 Thank you, Mr. Curses. 241 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,620 That concludes then comments from members of the public. 242 00:38:27,580 --> 00:38:34,160 Moving to item eight, elected appointed officials reports, did Mayor Haley leave one with Mr. 243 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,840 Evelyn or Mr. Crowe? 244 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:38,380 All right. 245 00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:41,960 Audit Revents is also absent, Deputy Law Director Horr? 246 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,580 No report, Mr. President. 247 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,140 All right. 248 00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:45,120 Thank you. 249 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,800 Sir, Mr. Director Crowe. 250 00:38:50,860 --> 00:38:54,040 For the record, I do agree with the first gentleman that spoke about the red lights. 251 00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:59,980 We are looking at that right now, it's set up to give 252 00:38:59,980 --> 00:39:05,480 South Street, the preference, which messes up, made and locused. 253 00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:08,200 We don't know if that's the best route or not. 254 00:39:08,260 --> 00:39:12,860 It's going to take a little while, a little bit of money to try to free this out and try 255 00:39:12,860 --> 00:39:13,280 to. 256 00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:15,820 But we do want to work on that. 257 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:24,960 I think about the last council meeting, and I know that I didn't answer very many data 258 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,720 Center questions wasn't had a disrespect. 259 00:39:29,260 --> 00:39:34,580 It was that meeting was for a rezoning of a property, not a data center. 260 00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:42,260 And when the Planning Commission site plan comes together, there will be a team that can 261 00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:46,460 answer these questions that these folks have about data centers. 262 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:49,000 That's my take on that. 263 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,480 Also I think you've received some emails about recycling. 264 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,960 I know there's been some information, this information out in the social media. 265 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:07,100 I did invite Cody here tonight in case you do have any questions or concerns that you 266 00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,300 would like to ask him personally. 267 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,660 Why he's here? 268 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,980 I don't make a step up into that. 269 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,980 Questions from members of Council? 270 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,060 There is legislation expected by the next meeting concerning curbside or cycling. 271 00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:25,690 The 272 00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:39,550 only thing I want to say before us to back down is as you all know we are in the process 273 00:40:39,550 --> 00:40:41,270 of budget for next year. 274 00:40:43,230 --> 00:40:46,350 If it is decided that we are going to keep every time cycling, 275 00:40:49,050 --> 00:40:50,330 the sooner we could know 276 00:40:50,330 --> 00:40:55,370 that that would be best for me budgeting for our department because we are looking at purchasing 277 00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:58,070 a new truck at that point and it is about $400,000. 278 00:40:58,070 --> 00:41:01,520 So, let's keep that in mind. 279 00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:06,860 Questions for Mr. Rumor? 280 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:08,840 All right. 281 00:41:09,020 --> 00:41:09,640 Thank you. 282 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,740 That's all I have, Mr. President. 283 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,200 All right. 284 00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:12,060 Thank you, Mr. Crow. 285 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,220 Safety Director, even. 286 00:41:20,590 --> 00:41:22,290 Mr. President, members of Council. 287 00:41:23,110 --> 00:41:23,650 Good evening. 288 00:41:24,410 --> 00:41:24,710 Good evening. 289 00:41:28,770 --> 00:41:32,570 Since this last Council meeting, we've had a lot of activity. 290 00:41:34,210 --> 00:41:36,470 And I think it warrants mentioning tonight, 291 00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:40,550 because if you listen to some of the social media warriors, 292 00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:43,910 They keep saying that the Wilmington police department 293 00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:45,910 are only doing, they don't do anything. 294 00:41:46,430 --> 00:41:47,970 Well tonight, I'm going to give you an idea 295 00:41:47,970 --> 00:41:50,350 of what we've been doing in the past two weeks, 296 00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:52,150 and for their era for that matter. 297 00:41:54,190 --> 00:41:56,430 In the past two weeks since the last council meeting, 298 00:41:56,590 --> 00:41:58,410 there was an armed robbery at Speedway. 299 00:42:00,470 --> 00:42:02,490 The perpetrator of that was identified, 300 00:42:03,450 --> 00:42:07,790 was arrested, and is charged in that armed robbery. 301 00:42:07,790 --> 00:42:15,670 There was a terroristic threat at the Wilmington High School that was taken care of. 302 00:42:15,790 --> 00:42:21,570 We had a high-pleased presence at the school system when that occurred. 303 00:42:22,530 --> 00:42:26,850 The perpetrator was identified and will be charged in that. 304 00:42:28,110 --> 00:42:33,310 There was a vandalism, a sugargrew of cemetery, where somebody went out there and defaced 305 00:42:33,310 --> 00:42:39,890 with spray paint, some of the above-ground Mosulians that were out there, that perpetrator 306 00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:44,170 was identified and was arrested and will be prosecuted. 307 00:42:45,590 --> 00:42:50,590 You heard earlier about fatal accident out on State Route 73, where the law director's office 308 00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:52,950 participated in that. 309 00:42:52,990 --> 00:43:00,430 Now that wasn't a police department per se, but at primarily that was a highway patrol incident 310 00:43:00,430 --> 00:43:02,410 with the assistance of the sheriff's department. 311 00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:04,630 Our life squad did go out there, though, 312 00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:07,910 and we transported an individual to Clinton Memorial Hospital, 313 00:43:09,710 --> 00:43:11,530 and there will be more to come on that in the future. 314 00:43:13,230 --> 00:43:16,950 We had two vehicle chases through town, 315 00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:21,910 and one foot person, where the perpetrator was bailed. 316 00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:26,270 And so we chased him down, we arrested him. 317 00:43:27,150 --> 00:43:29,210 And I want to talk to you a little bit about 318 00:43:29,210 --> 00:43:32,090 What's going on so far this year? 319 00:43:32,750 --> 00:43:37,350 So far the police department has answered through dispatch, I might add, 320 00:43:37,850 --> 00:43:44,730 8,258 calls for service, 8,258, 258. 321 00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:51,250 Main 433 arrests conducted 1,233 traffic stops, 322 00:43:51,870 --> 00:43:57,350 874 business checks, and investigated 166 vehicle crashes, 323 00:43:57,350 --> 00:44:01,330 There's both private and public on the public roadway. 324 00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:06,710 And interestingly enough, for people that less than they aren't doing anything. 325 00:44:08,050 --> 00:44:12,010 We have four shifts, and the sergeant in charge of each shift. 326 00:44:12,690 --> 00:44:21,230 Sergeant Calhoun's shift this year, in 2026 so far, through traffic stops alone, as confiscated 327 00:44:21,230 --> 00:44:27,670 1.63 pounds of methamphetamine, and 29.89 grams of fentanyl, 328 00:44:27,850 --> 00:44:29,390 most of this is all from traffic stops. 329 00:44:29,550 --> 00:44:36,610 It says, and from bus or undercover actions or anything like that, 330 00:44:36,810 --> 00:44:38,130 this is just in traffic stops. 331 00:44:38,830 --> 00:44:40,550 So our people are out there doing the job. 332 00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:41,710 They're working hard. 333 00:44:42,370 --> 00:44:44,990 It's been very interesting, you know, one of the things that sadly, 334 00:44:46,510 --> 00:44:50,470 I take a lot of ripping about, because I stood up here in front of you all 335 00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:56,370 and sworn in officers, and sworn in new sergeants, and they said, 336 00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:58,730 Evelyn, you're up there, every other meeting, 337 00:44:59,010 --> 00:44:59,910 to swear on somebody in. 338 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:10,260 And two officers go out, but we've had new officers come in. Our new officers are first rate. And you know what's changed? The attitude down there has changed a hundred percent. 339 00:45:11,180 --> 00:45:19,220 And these people are here to do a job. They're working hard. Their attitude is a hundred percent different than it was previously. 340 00:45:19,780 --> 00:45:27,840 And I attribute, virtually all of that, to the leadership of Chief Joss Gibson, he's done a tremendous job down there. 341 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:35,840 Putting that department together in a way that they come to work, they do their job, and I'm extremely proud of all of them. 342 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,100 And I think you should be too. 343 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,840 And so I ask all the members of the public, when you see one of our officers out there, thank them. 344 00:45:42,020 --> 00:45:43,500 There's their doing their best they can. 345 00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:48,240 They lead home, they put on their best, and put on their badge, 346 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,120 to strap on their gun and go out to protect you 347 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,980 and the citizens of Wilmington, Ohio, 348 00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:56,120 and the best way to take possibly can. 349 00:45:57,260 --> 00:46:01,020 And every one of them wants, and I would say, 350 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,920 you know, when I first first stepped this job, 351 00:46:03,380 --> 00:46:05,160 I wasn't really sure I wanted it. 352 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,160 As you know, the Department hasn't, 353 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,800 over the last 10, 15 years, 354 00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:14,460 hasn't necessarily had the best reputation in the community. 355 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,080 I'm here to tell you that that has changed. 356 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:25,600 Personnel have turned over, people who had drama in their lives and wanted to create drama 357 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:32,000 and various things, they're gone now, and we are at the part that I believe is really 358 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,520 only obsolete, acres ahead of where they were before, and so I just wanted you to know 359 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:42,480 about that tonight, because when you see things on social media about, oh, why wasn't 360 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,980 an officer present when this happened, and why didn't they do this, and why didn't they 361 00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:49,180 to do that, keep in mind that if you were that person, 362 00:46:49,540 --> 00:46:52,400 it's going out there, straffin' on the bed, 363 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,700 not knowing what you're gonna get into that day. 364 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,040 It's challenging, and it's a job that I wouldn't do. 365 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,920 I couldn't do it. 366 00:47:02,260 --> 00:47:03,880 This job that most of us probably couldn't, 367 00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:05,900 but nonetheless, they're there for you. 368 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,080 And so, if you could, just kind of give them a hands up, 369 00:47:11,340 --> 00:47:13,000 and tell them what a good job they're doing, 370 00:47:13,300 --> 00:47:15,200 they'll certainly appreciate it. 371 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:23,400 I think that's just about all I've got tonight, but I thought you'd be interested in hearing 372 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,260 that. 373 00:47:25,180 --> 00:47:30,800 And we've gotten a lot of requests here lately for information, I will say this, we've 374 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:37,700 gotten a lot of information requests for public records about what does it cost us to provide 375 00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:42,240 certain services, particularly one if we're going to one here recently, 376 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,960 for our father's 377 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:53,100 what does it cost to do that? Well my response to that is this. If there was no crime and 378 00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:58,700 we'll meet in Ohio it would cost us the same to have police officers to have life squad 379 00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:04,840 ready for whatever incident might take place. I mean we've got it we've got to set fixed 380 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:11,260 cost for everything that we do salaries. Obviously you know that that's the biggest part of it. 381 00:48:11,260 --> 00:48:17,880 But you gotta keep in mind that whether there's one crime, or there's 1,000 crimes, or 8,250, 382 00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:25,780 it calls for service, the cost is the same, what an amount there, now it isn't cheap, but 383 00:48:25,780 --> 00:48:31,080 they are out there to do the best that they can, to serve you, to be ready with that 384 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,420 life's going when the time comes. 385 00:48:33,020 --> 00:48:38,620 So that's my presentation for this evening, and I hope you'll give a word of appreciation 386 00:48:38,620 --> 00:48:41,520 to the public servants that are out there working hard for you. 387 00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:43,280 That's almost, Mr. Edwin. 388 00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:44,340 Thank you, Mr. Edwin. 389 00:48:44,820 --> 00:48:48,360 Mr. Edwin, can you give us the total amount on that fit and all again? 390 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,020 Mr. Edwin? 391 00:48:51,420 --> 00:48:51,900 I'm sorry. 392 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,000 He's asking for the amount of fit and all the total amount of fit and all that was in that bus. 393 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,060 I'm sorry. 394 00:48:58,380 --> 00:49:01,060 The fit and all, how much fit and all was that that they found? 395 00:49:02,220 --> 00:49:04,860 It was 29.89 grams. 396 00:49:05,420 --> 00:49:10,600 Now, I can't tell you what that is, is that a handful or is that a pound I don't know. 397 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,800 It's enough to kill a lot of people. 398 00:49:11,980 --> 00:49:13,640 I just thought we should do absolutely that. 399 00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:19,600 I mean, pure fentanyl, the amount on the tip of a ballpoint pen can kill you. 400 00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:23,720 And to find, you know, we find that and we'll be trying to hire. 401 00:49:23,860 --> 00:49:27,000 We have the same problems that everybody else does in the other big cities. 402 00:49:27,140 --> 00:49:30,000 Just less of it on a smaller scale. 403 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,300 But nonetheless, 404 00:49:35,380 --> 00:49:39,580 it's a problem and we, in fact, we're getting that off the streets of 405 00:49:39,580 --> 00:49:40,340 one of the things. 406 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,020 Yes, sir. 407 00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:42,220 There's nothing given. 408 00:49:43,740 --> 00:49:44,360 Other questions? 409 00:49:45,420 --> 00:49:45,740 comments. 410 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,100 Thank you all for letting me just spell it off a little bit tonight, but I appreciate that. 411 00:49:51,260 --> 00:49:51,800 Thank you. 412 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:52,380 Thank you, Mr. Eva. 413 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,380 Moving on to all business. 414 00:49:55,940 --> 00:49:57,720 City Services Committee, Mr. Wells. 415 00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:00,640 Mr. President. 416 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:08,100 And I have one item, which is the second reading on Resolution 2637, authorizing the mayor 417 00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:14,940 to enter into a contract with civic plus for meeting management software for the city 418 00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:16,140 will make that. 419 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,840 And we talked about this the last time. 420 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:24,880 Are there any questions, any discussion, and by having anything? 421 00:50:25,780 --> 00:50:33,160 Okay, I move for the second reading on Resolution 2637 by Title L. 422 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,700 I'll second that. 423 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,100 I have a motion by Mr. Wells for second reading of Resolution 2637 by Title 424 00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:43,180 L. Second by Mr. Toliver, all in favor, signify by saying aye. 425 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:44,440 Aye. Those opposed. 426 00:50:44,740 --> 00:50:44,840 Aye. 427 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,300 May I have second reading of Resolution 2637, please. 428 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,540 Resolution R2637, authorizing the mayor's answer into a contract with civic 429 00:50:54,540 --> 00:50:58,000 plus for meeting management software for the city of Lomington, Ohio. 430 00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:00,040 Thank you. 431 00:51:01,020 --> 00:51:04,580 I'd like to have the third reading at the next council, 432 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,900 Thank you, Mr. Wells. 433 00:51:09,140 --> 00:51:09,680 That's all. 434 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:10,900 Thank you. 435 00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:13,200 Finance committee, Mr. Nulls. 436 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:16,920 Yes, I have two pieces of legislation for old business. 437 00:51:17,420 --> 00:51:21,240 First being resolution R2638, 438 00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:27,000 authorizing release of certainly agreement transfer property to TLA enterprises. 439 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,040 We spoke about this in depth last time as well. 440 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:38,960 This is the escape property that the revolving loan, the U-Dag, and least agreement for 441 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,120 the strip of land adjacent to the escape has been paid in full, and in terms of leave, 442 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,600 release have been satisfied. 443 00:51:49,340 --> 00:51:52,820 Any questions on that? Okay. 444 00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:59,090 I'd like to make a motion to suspend 445 00:51:59,090 --> 00:52:06,470 the rules and regulations and give second and third reading of a resolution, resolution 446 00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:09,050 R26-38 by title only. 447 00:52:10,750 --> 00:52:17,330 Second, I have a motion by Mr. Nulls for second and third reading of Resolution 2638, second by Mr. 448 00:52:17,530 --> 00:52:18,950 Toliver, roll call, please. 449 00:52:19,450 --> 00:52:20,930 Early? Yes. 450 00:52:21,230 --> 00:52:21,950 Nulls? Yes. 451 00:52:22,250 --> 00:52:22,990 German? Yes. 452 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:46,240 Yes. Yes. Yes. Well. Yes. Motion passes 7-0, may I have second and third reading by title only? Resolution R-2638, resolution authorizing the release of a certain lease agreement and transfer of property to T-Eliant Enterprises LLC. 453 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:51,100 I'd like to make a motion for passage of Resolution R-26-38. 454 00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:57,560 I have a motion for passage of Resolution 2638 by Mr. Null, second by Mr. German. 455 00:52:58,180 --> 00:52:59,020 Roll call, please. 456 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:00,020 Nulls? 457 00:53:00,020 --> 00:53:00,240 Yes. 458 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,220 German? Yes. 459 00:53:01,380 --> 00:53:02,420 Toliver? Yes. 460 00:53:02,420 --> 00:53:03,100 Sleva? Yes. 461 00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:04,280 Snar? Yes. 462 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,400 Well, early. 463 00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:05,980 Yes. 464 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,060 Motion passes 70 and Resolution 2638 passes. 465 00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:12,520 Okay. 466 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:19,420 The next thing and last thing that I have for O Business is Resolution R26-39. 467 00:53:19,820 --> 00:53:27,140 This is accepting the local assistant formula from the provided by a Clinton County 468 00:53:27,140 --> 00:53:27,560 auditor. 469 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,900 We discussed this the last time as well. 470 00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:36,840 This is the acceptance of the local government fund, the LGF formula. 471 00:53:37,580 --> 00:53:39,320 Does any questions on this? 472 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:52,260 Seeing none, I'd like to make a motion to suspend the rules and regulations and give second and third reading to Resolution R-26-309 by Title 1 like. 473 00:53:54,460 --> 00:53:54,800 So, second. 474 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,860 I have a motion by Mr. Nulls, the second by Mr. Early. 475 00:54:00,540 --> 00:54:02,280 For second and third reading, roll call, please. 476 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:02,900 German. 477 00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:03,880 Yes. 478 00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:04,580 Toliver. 479 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:05,080 Yes. 480 00:54:05,220 --> 00:54:05,720 Slaybough. 481 00:54:06,020 --> 00:54:06,040 Yes. 482 00:54:06,820 --> 00:54:07,340 Well. 483 00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:07,940 Yes. 484 00:54:08,060 --> 00:54:08,400 Yes. 485 00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:11,540 Motion passes. 486 00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:21,100 7-0 may have second and third reading place. Resolution R-26-39 accepting local government assistance formula as provided by the Clinton County Auditor. 487 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,260 I can make motion for passage of resolution R-26-39. 488 00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:31,960 Second. 489 00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:38,420 I have a motion for passage of resolution 26-39 by Mr. Null's second by Mr. Early. 490 00:54:38,420 --> 00:54:40,320 roll-completes. 491 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:40,540 Yes. 492 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:40,980 Yes. 493 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,540 Motion passes 7-0. 494 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,880 Resolution 2639 passes. 495 00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:53,220 I have a roll business, Mr. President. 496 00:54:53,740 --> 00:54:54,620 All right, thank you, Mr. Nulls. 497 00:54:55,380 --> 00:54:56,460 Judiciary, Mr. Slebel. 498 00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:59,620 We have two items of all business, Mr. President. 499 00:55:00,380 --> 00:55:03,860 The first one is second-and-third reading on ordinance 2649. 500 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,680 That was the public camping legislation that we've discussed. 501 00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:11,880 Previously, there were some questions brought up in public comments. 502 00:55:12,620 --> 00:55:17,840 I don't know if there's more discussion or questions on this legislation anyone has. 503 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,340 I would like to say something if I make and this is really concerning both of the coming 504 00:55:23,340 --> 00:55:26,200 because they're tied together one right after the other. 505 00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:32,000 Thank you, Mr. President and Council members. 506 00:55:32,740 --> 00:55:36,300 Tonight we have an opportunity to take a meaningful step toward the health safety 507 00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:42,840 quality of life of everyone who lives in works in or visits Womington. This ordinance 508 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,100 is a good step in the right direction. It gives our city clear and forceable tools to 509 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:53,240 address camp again obstruction on public property while protecting the public spaces that 510 00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:58,360 belong to all of us. It is consistent with the approach successfully adopted by other 511 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,780 higher communities and with the legal framework affirmed by the United States Supreme Court. 512 00:56:02,780 --> 00:56:09,420 But an ordinance alone is not enough, the real opportunity comes if we embrace this legislation 513 00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:11,460 and pair it with a comprehensive plan. 514 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,820 The Trump administration through HUD Secretary Scott Turner has advanced a treatment 515 00:56:16,820 --> 00:56:23,400 first approach that recognizes housing as essential, but housing alone is not enough. 516 00:56:24,260 --> 00:56:29,320 It prioritizes connecting people with treatment for addiction and mental illness alongside 517 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:34,100 supportive services that can move toward recovery and lasting self-sufficiency. 518 00:56:35,380 --> 00:56:39,660 If Womiton uses this ordinance as the foundation for that kind of coordinated treatment, 519 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,140 centered strategy, we have a real fighting chance to make sustainable change. 520 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,800 Change that improves outcomes for people experiencing homelessness, and a storage safety 521 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,640 in order to our streets, parks, and sidewalks. 522 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,960 Lowington is joining a small but growing number of communities across Ohio and the nation. 523 00:56:59,380 --> 00:57:00,840 They're choosing to act. 524 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:07,660 Cities like Newark, Heath, Mentor, Brunswick, Ashtabula, Finley, Canton, and others have 525 00:57:07,660 --> 00:57:09,200 already taken similar steps. 526 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,520 We can learn from their experience and do this thoughtfully, firmly and compassionately. 527 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,660 I urge my colleagues on Council to support the final passage tonight. 528 00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:24,760 this is a practical responsible step that positions our city to address a difficult problem 529 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,980 with both accountability and a genuine path forward. 530 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:29,380 Thank you. 531 00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:32,400 Thank you, Mr. Scheller, there are other comments. 532 00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:34,220 I'm Mr. Scheller. 533 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,220 Yeah, I generally support this legislation. 534 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:45,580 I think it is good, although I do think tonight some good questions were raised and in my 535 00:57:45,580 --> 00:57:53,380 that's what this is about is is, you know, the public speaking, us listening, and I think some, 536 00:57:54,060 --> 00:57:59,100 I have, like I said, some questions, and so I don't think we need to rush through this. I'd like to 537 00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:05,840 think through these questions and come back in two weeks and finalize it. So I just wanted to say that. 538 00:58:11,980 --> 00:58:21,380 The, for the amount of people who are camping, so to speak, Mr. Updagrove's letter that was 539 00:58:21,380 --> 00:58:28,280 right into record here last meeting, that was one week's worth and that was a lot of people. 540 00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:38,060 So this is not something that is a one of, this happens a lot every single week, he fights 541 00:58:38,060 --> 00:58:38,480 it. 542 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,720 This is just in the parks, it's not just, it's not, 543 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,520 so it's going on everywhere. 544 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,900 I mean, if you go buy galvan park, my wife, 545 00:58:47,940 --> 00:58:50,060 and I go buy galvan park quite frequently, 546 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,800 when we come up town, or go out to the town, 547 00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:58,380 and we can see it on practically every day, 2, 3, 4, 5 people 548 00:58:58,380 --> 00:59:00,980 on the picnic tables, it's sprawled out. 549 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:01,800 They've got everything. 550 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,420 This is on a daily basis. 551 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,040 So I mean, this is something that I don't think it can, 552 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,240 that's my opinion. It's a daily basis. 553 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:18,100 So do you think this legislation prevents someone from sitting at a picnic table when there are 30 of them 554 00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:23,440 and putting their stuff on the table? Yes. Because they had their stuff spread out all over the picnic table. 555 00:59:25,970 --> 00:59:26,170 We'll see. 556 00:59:30,930 --> 00:59:31,870 Is it further discussion? 557 00:59:37,570 --> 00:59:42,030 I guess I kind of have a question about something that was raised. 558 00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:50,830 If somebody is in General Denver, Williams Park at 4am, the park is closed, that's against 559 00:59:50,830 --> 00:59:52,930 the city ordinance to begin with. 560 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,940 So they could actually be picked up and arrested under the ordinances. 561 01:00:00,660 --> 01:00:05,580 So that would have nothing to do with this ordinance at all. 562 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:24,480 You know, I would hate to see somebody during hours that was walking exercising, enjoying the park, sit down and bench, put their head down and go to sleep, 563 01:00:25,860 --> 01:00:32,040 have something happen, but I believe that's why we changed it to begin with so that 564 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,380 didn't happen. 565 01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:36,800 So I don't think, 566 01:00:41,140 --> 01:00:45,240 I guess what I'm getting at, is we're not going 567 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:55,210 against any ordinances that are to exist. What we're trying to do is make sure that 568 01:00:55,210 --> 01:01:04,090 we are creating a safe place for our residents to enjoy. So I really am poor the 569 01:01:04,090 --> 01:01:10,450 sort of the way it's written. So, sorry. No, go ahead. I would just like to 570 01:01:10,450 --> 01:01:18,090 some of the comments that were made or questions regarding somebody 571 01:01:18,090 --> 01:01:24,270 necessarily having a look back on with this sleeping bag and sitting at a bench. 572 01:01:24,270 --> 01:01:31,510 this was a discussion question we had actually when we were putting this together, that that's not 573 01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:41,590 nice, that's not camping. You're not actively spreading out your belongings and using that as a 574 01:01:41,590 --> 01:01:51,230 shelter or there's there's a difference between just sitting there at the bench and 575 01:01:51,230 --> 01:01:55,490 you're picking table and you're not laying on top of the picking table so you're not 576 01:01:56,950 --> 01:02:01,510 obstructing and you haven't opened up your boat bag and laid your blankets and 577 01:02:01,510 --> 01:02:06,790 you're sleeping bag and all of those things. That's that's not that's not 578 01:02:06,790 --> 01:02:11,390 camping. So just so make sure at least that question is answered because I think 579 01:02:11,390 --> 01:02:12,670 that was asked to me. 580 01:02:17,780 --> 01:02:18,600 Thank you. 581 01:02:21,030 --> 01:02:21,990 Is there further discussion? 582 01:02:24,090 --> 01:02:25,110 I would just like to 583 01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:28,390 say again I know we talked about it a few weeks ago but thanks to everybody who 584 01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:32,850 work together on kind of revising this from where it started to what we have now. 585 01:02:32,930 --> 01:02:36,250 I do think this is a great tool for police officers. 586 01:02:36,490 --> 01:02:41,750 I think it's a great start, and I think it can be a springboard for even better things 587 01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:42,690 to come for our city. 588 01:02:47,460 --> 01:02:48,560 So, I'm sorry, one more thing. 589 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:49,080 I apologize. 590 01:02:49,580 --> 01:02:54,280 I just want to follow up regarding, there's a comment about, for a, and we're a mid-nighter, 591 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,040 whatever that is. 592 01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:01,580 You're probably, at that point, you're looking probably at trust-passing, and we are 593 01:03:01,580 --> 01:03:11,620 working on revamping the park rules anyways. So it may fall under a park rule. 594 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:19,100 But it's likely going to fall. I mean, if the police see them out there, it's likely going to fall under trust passing. 595 01:03:26,620 --> 01:03:30,120 Thank you. Anyone else? 596 01:03:33,310 --> 01:03:39,290 Seeing none, I will move to give second and third reading of ordinance 2649 by title only. 597 01:03:39,290 --> 01:03:40,110 I'll take it. 598 01:03:40,570 --> 01:03:40,750 Sorry. 599 01:03:41,070 --> 01:03:41,470 I'll be free. 600 01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:43,230 Please do as a mentor. 601 01:03:43,450 --> 01:03:46,990 It's a spend of rules and regulations and give second and third reading to ordinance 602 01:03:46,990 --> 01:03:48,970 2649 by title only. 603 01:03:49,210 --> 01:03:49,250 All right. 604 01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:50,170 I have a second. 605 01:03:50,590 --> 01:03:55,010 I have a motion to suspend the rules and regulations for second and third reading on 606 01:03:55,010 --> 01:03:59,390 ordinance 2649 motion by Mr. Slaibwell, second by Mr. Toliver. 607 01:03:59,810 --> 01:04:00,450 Roll call please. 608 01:04:00,850 --> 01:04:01,270 Slaibwell. 609 01:04:01,610 --> 01:04:01,690 Yes. 610 01:04:01,850 --> 01:04:02,290 Snar. 611 01:04:02,830 --> 01:04:03,210 No. 612 01:04:03,630 --> 01:04:03,970 Wells. 613 01:04:04,190 --> 01:04:04,590 Yes. 614 01:04:04,810 --> 01:04:05,090 Early. 615 01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:05,850 Yes. 616 01:04:05,850 --> 01:04:06,850 Yes. 617 01:04:07,050 --> 01:04:07,190 Yes. 618 01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:07,510 German. 619 01:04:07,590 --> 01:04:08,050 Yes. 620 01:04:09,590 --> 01:04:11,590 Motion passes 6-1. 621 01:04:12,090 --> 01:04:13,550 May I have second and third reading, please? 622 01:04:14,090 --> 01:04:19,850 Ornance O2649, regulating public camping, temporary habitation, and occupancy of public property. 623 01:04:21,930 --> 01:04:22,310 Thank you. 624 01:04:22,490 --> 01:04:25,510 And I'll move for passage of Ornance 2649, as a red. 625 01:04:25,810 --> 01:04:26,130 A second. 626 01:04:26,930 --> 01:04:32,110 I have a motion for passage of Ornance 2649 by Mr. Slaybaugh, second by Mr. 627 01:04:32,350 --> 01:04:32,850 Dolever. 628 01:04:33,230 --> 01:04:33,670 Roll call, please. 629 01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:34,830 Yes. 630 01:04:34,990 --> 01:04:35,210 Yes. 631 01:04:35,210 --> 01:04:36,430 Well, early. 632 01:04:37,130 --> 01:04:37,310 No. 633 01:04:37,610 --> 01:04:37,850 Yes. 634 01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:39,250 Yes. 635 01:04:41,570 --> 01:04:45,450 Motion passes 70 and ordinance 2649 passes. 636 01:04:46,730 --> 01:04:47,430 Thank you. 637 01:04:47,850 --> 01:04:53,610 Our second item of business is the second and third reading of ordinance 2650, which is 638 01:04:53,610 --> 01:04:55,070 regulating bodily obstruction. 639 01:04:55,870 --> 01:04:58,970 Is there discussion on this specific piece of legislation? 640 01:05:00,010 --> 01:05:02,730 It's going to go to hand in hand with the previous one. 641 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:10,040 I feel the same way about this one as I mentioned for the previous one. 642 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,360 Thank you. 643 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,500 Any further comments? 644 01:05:19,060 --> 01:05:25,180 Seeing that, I'll give move to suspend the rules of regulations and give second and third reading of ordinance 2650. 645 01:05:26,460 --> 01:05:32,100 I have a motion to suspend rules and regulations and give second and third reading to ordinance 2650. 646 01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:36,400 by Mr. Sleibahl, second by Mr. Nolz, Mr. Nolz. 647 01:05:36,740 --> 01:05:37,320 Roll call, please. 648 01:05:37,580 --> 01:05:39,040 Well, early. 649 01:05:39,380 --> 01:05:39,720 Yes. 650 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,120 Nolz. 651 01:05:40,220 --> 01:05:40,440 Yes. 652 01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:40,980 German. 653 01:05:41,180 --> 01:05:41,440 Yes. 654 01:05:41,660 --> 01:05:42,020 Toliver. 655 01:05:42,220 --> 01:05:42,680 Yes. 656 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:43,100 Sleibahl. 657 01:05:43,580 --> 01:05:43,960 Snark. 658 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,680 Motion passes 6-1. 659 01:05:46,780 --> 01:05:48,700 May I have second and third reading by title only? 660 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,940 Or in its O-2650, regulating bodily obstruction 661 01:05:51,940 --> 01:05:53,500 in or on public property? 662 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,480 Thank you, and I'll move for passage of ordinance 2650, as a red. 663 01:05:59,000 --> 01:05:59,240 Second. 664 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:04,640 I have a motion for passing the ordinance 2650 by Mr. Sleibahl, second by Mr. Early, 665 01:06:04,940 --> 01:06:05,540 roll call, please. 666 01:06:05,780 --> 01:06:05,980 Early? 667 01:06:06,820 --> 01:06:06,960 No. 668 01:06:07,180 --> 01:06:07,460 Yes. 669 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,140 Garmin? 670 01:06:08,220 --> 01:06:08,700 Yes. 671 01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:09,000 Toliver? 672 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:09,600 Yes. 673 01:06:09,620 --> 01:06:10,060 Sleibahl? 674 01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:10,340 Yes. 675 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:10,960 Snor? 676 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:11,300 Yes. 677 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:11,760 Well. 678 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:12,360 Yes. 679 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,080 Motion passes 7-0. 680 01:06:15,820 --> 01:06:18,180 And ordinance 2650 passes. 681 01:06:19,220 --> 01:06:19,680 Thank you. 682 01:06:19,780 --> 01:06:21,660 And that's all we have for all business, Mr. President. 683 01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:22,180 All right. 684 01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:23,340 Thank you, Mr. Sleibahl. 685 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,600 Public Works Enterprise Committee, Mr. Toliver. 686 01:06:27,020 --> 01:06:28,100 Nothing denied, Mr. President. 687 01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:32,540 Thank you, Mr. Tolver, and I'm moving to new business and back to Mr. Wells. 688 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:40,620 The first side of the night is three readings on Resolution 2640, adopting an amended 689 01:06:40,620 --> 01:06:46,020 city of Wilmington policy on utility poll, replacement, and removal. 690 01:06:46,780 --> 01:06:51,920 We talked about this during a workshop, are there any questions? 691 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:53,980 Any discussion? 692 01:06:54,960 --> 01:07:02,280 Okay, see you now, I'll move for the first reading, I'll resolution 2640 by title only. 693 01:07:02,500 --> 01:07:02,940 Second. 694 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:08,200 I have a motion for first reading by title only, resolution 2640 by Mr. Wells. 695 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,880 Second by Mr. Early, all in favor, signify by saying aye. 696 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:14,140 I was like sign. 697 01:07:15,020 --> 01:07:16,400 You've seen no opposed. 698 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,940 May I have first reading by title only of resolution 2640. 699 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:38,680 On utility poll replacement and removal. I move for the suspension of rules and regulations to give the second and third reading by title only. 700 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:49,460 Tag it. I have a motion for suspension of rules and regulations for second and third reading by title only, resolution 2640 by Mr. Wells, second by Mr. Nulls. 701 01:07:49,460 --> 01:07:50,400 No. 702 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:51,760 German. 703 01:07:51,820 --> 01:07:52,100 Yes. 704 01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:52,540 Toler. 705 01:07:52,820 --> 01:07:53,160 Yes. 706 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:53,620 Slaybough. 707 01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:54,600 Yes. 708 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:55,520 Yes. 709 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:57,000 Yes. 710 01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:58,280 Motion passes. 711 01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:58,620 7. 712 01:07:58,900 --> 01:07:58,940 Zero. 713 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:00,260 I have second and third reading. 714 01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:02,360 Resolution R2640. 715 01:08:02,540 --> 01:08:10,460 I move for a passage of resolution 2640. 716 01:08:11,380 --> 01:08:11,620 Second. 717 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,540 I have a motion for passage by Mr. Wells. 718 01:08:14,900 --> 01:08:16,480 Second by Mr. Nulls. 719 01:08:17,140 --> 01:08:17,200 Roll. 720 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:29,860 Garmin. Yes. Toliver. Yes. Slava. Yes. Snor. Yes. Well. Yes. Early. Yes. Snow. Yes. Motion passes 7-0. Resolution 2640 passes. 721 01:08:31,500 --> 01:08:41,700 Our second item is the first reading on Resolution 2641 adopting the city of Wilmickton transit system. Americans with disabilities act policy. 722 01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:45,800 And we've talked about this many times in the past. 723 01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:47,280 Are there any questions? 724 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,040 Okay, see you then. 725 01:08:50,140 --> 01:08:54,220 I'll move for the first reading on Resolution 2641 by Title O. 726 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:55,300 Second. 727 01:08:56,480 --> 01:09:00,940 I have a motion by Mr. Wells for first reading by Title O. 728 01:09:00,980 --> 01:09:01,820 Resolution 2641. 729 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,320 I'm sorry, I did not catch the second. 730 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:05,660 Is that Mr. Nose? 731 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:06,040 All right. 732 01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:07,220 Second by Mr. Nose? 733 01:09:07,480 --> 01:09:08,920 All in favor of signifying by signifying? 734 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:09,680 Aye. 735 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:11,800 It's opposed like so. 736 01:09:12,620 --> 01:09:16,440 May I have first reading by title only a resolution 2641. 737 01:09:16,820 --> 01:09:20,400 Resolution R2641 adopting the city of Wilmington transit system, 738 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,160 Americans with the Spillities Act policy. 739 01:09:25,300 --> 01:09:29,040 I need to ask the question, would you like to have just a second reading next meeting 740 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,720 or second and third reading? 741 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:31,860 Second reading. 742 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:33,240 Second reading. 743 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:33,840 Second reading. 744 01:09:33,900 --> 01:09:35,980 Like have that on the next meeting then. 745 01:09:39,230 --> 01:09:39,410 All right. 746 01:09:39,530 --> 01:09:43,290 Our third item is the first reading of resolution 2642. 747 01:09:43,290 --> 01:09:49,450 adopting a revised city of Wilmickton transit system drug and alcohol policy. 748 01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:54,790 We talked about this too, any questions on this? 749 01:09:55,310 --> 01:10:01,770 Seeing now, I'll move for the first reading, I'll resolution 2642 by title only, that's 750 01:10:01,770 --> 01:10:01,950 second. 751 01:10:02,790 --> 01:10:13,270 I have a motion for first reading, the resolution 2642 by Mr. Wells, the second by Mr. 752 01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:20,590 Opposed like sign may have first motion passes may have first reading of resolution 2642 by Title 753 01:10:20,590 --> 01:10:27,430 Only resolution R2642 adopting adopting a revised city of Wilmington transit system jogging out the whole policy 754 01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:32,150 And I'd also like to ask for the second reading at the next meeting 755 01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:36,910 That's all I have Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. Wells. 756 01:10:37,410 --> 01:10:42,110 Finance committee, Mr. Nulls. Yes, we have two pieces of legislation to bring forward tonight. 757 01:10:42,110 --> 01:10:49,270 First being ordinance 026-51 for supplemental appropriations. 758 01:10:49,450 --> 01:10:53,430 We discussed this during the workshop as well. 759 01:10:54,990 --> 01:10:56,270 Did you know if there are any more questions? 760 01:10:56,430 --> 01:10:57,970 Are you going to be a thought of anything? 761 01:10:59,950 --> 01:11:00,320 Tencent? 762 01:11:00,950 --> 01:11:00,970 Okay. 763 01:11:01,370 --> 01:11:08,710 Seeing none, I'd like to make a motion for first reading of ordinance 026-51 by title online. 764 01:11:08,710 --> 01:11:15,030 Second. I have a motion for first reading by title only of ordnance 2651 by Mr. 765 01:11:15,150 --> 01:11:19,170 Null, second by Mr. German, all in favor of signify by saying aye. 766 01:11:19,410 --> 01:11:20,910 Aye. Those are both like sign. 767 01:11:21,730 --> 01:11:25,150 May I have first reading of ordnance 2651 by title only? 768 01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:28,250 Ordnance 02651, supplemental appropriations. 769 01:11:29,610 --> 01:11:33,650 I can make a motion to suspend the rules and regulations and give the second 770 01:11:33,650 --> 01:11:37,930 during the meeting of ordinance 0-26-51 by title only. 771 01:11:38,650 --> 01:11:43,290 I have a motion to suspend rules and regulations for second and third reading of ordinance 772 01:11:43,290 --> 01:11:47,410 2631 by Mr. Null, second by Mr. German, roll call please. 773 01:11:47,610 --> 01:11:54,370 Tolver, yes, Sleibau, yes, star, yes, well, yes, early, yes, no, yes, German, yes. 774 01:11:54,750 --> 01:11:57,610 Motion passes 7-0 may have second and third reading please. 775 01:11:57,610 --> 01:12:04,870 ordinance 0 2651 supplemental appropriations like to move for passage of ordinance 0 26 776 01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:06,050 dash 51. 777 01:12:08,290 --> 01:12:12,650 I have a motion for passage by Mr. Nulls a second by Mr. German roll call 778 01:12:12,650 --> 01:12:19,090 please. Slava. Yes. Snar. Yes. Well. Yes. Early. Yes. Nulls. Yes. German. Yes. 779 01:12:19,090 --> 01:12:33,830 Yes, motion passes 70 and resolution 26 or ordinance. I'm sorry 2651 passes. So that's the thing I have is ordinance 026-52 making 780 01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:45,050 miscellaneous transfers. This was for the Streets Department. He used F250 to replace one that is out of service. 781 01:12:45,050 --> 01:12:47,350 Thank questions on that. 782 01:12:47,610 --> 01:12:47,850 Good terms. 783 01:12:48,810 --> 01:12:56,030 Seeing none, I'd like to make a motion for first reading of ordinance O-26-52 by title only. 784 01:12:56,490 --> 01:12:56,970 That's second. 785 01:12:57,590 --> 01:13:02,250 I have a motion for first reading by title only of ordinance 2652 by Mr. Nulls. 786 01:13:02,330 --> 01:13:03,510 Second by Mr. Toliver. 787 01:13:03,810 --> 01:13:05,470 All in favor signify by saying aye. 788 01:13:06,330 --> 01:13:07,630 Those opposed like sign. 789 01:13:08,490 --> 01:13:10,870 May have first reading of ordinance 2652. 790 01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:14,610 ordinance 0 2652 miscellaneous transfers. 791 01:13:15,130 --> 01:13:19,930 Like to make a motion to suspend the rules and regulations and give second and third 792 01:13:19,930 --> 01:13:23,950 readings to ordinance 0-26-52 by title only. 793 01:13:24,170 --> 01:13:25,150 A second that motion. 794 01:13:25,410 --> 01:13:31,290 I have motion to suspend rules and regulations for second and third reading of ordinance 2652 795 01:13:31,290 --> 01:13:34,350 by title only by Mr. Null second by Mr. Toliver. 796 01:13:34,710 --> 01:13:35,350 Roll call please. 797 01:13:35,410 --> 01:13:35,890 NAR. 798 01:13:36,090 --> 01:13:36,650 Yes. Well. 799 01:13:36,910 --> 01:13:37,150 Yes. 800 01:13:37,370 --> 01:13:38,190 Early. Yes. 801 01:13:38,190 --> 01:13:39,030 Yes. 802 01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:39,790 German. 803 01:13:39,890 --> 01:13:40,410 Yes. 804 01:13:40,410 --> 01:13:40,830 Toliver. 805 01:13:40,870 --> 01:13:41,310 Yes. 806 01:13:41,310 --> 01:13:41,430 Yes. 807 01:13:42,710 --> 01:13:44,050 Motion passes 7-0. 808 01:13:44,190 --> 01:13:45,250 May have 2nd and 3rd reading. 809 01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:45,670 Please. 810 01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:47,110 Orange O-26-52. 811 01:13:47,330 --> 01:13:47,530 Missile. 812 01:13:48,730 --> 01:13:53,530 Like to make a motion for passage of ordinance O-26-52. 813 01:13:54,230 --> 01:13:54,670 A second. 814 01:13:55,330 --> 01:13:59,030 I have a motion for passage of ordinance 26-52 by Mr. Nulls. 815 01:13:59,350 --> 01:14:00,650 Second by Mr. Toliver. 816 01:14:01,150 --> 01:14:01,730 Roll call, please. 817 01:14:01,970 --> 01:14:02,250 Well. 818 01:14:02,590 --> 01:14:02,910 Yes. 819 01:14:02,910 --> 01:14:03,210 Early. 820 01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:03,950 Yes. 821 01:14:03,950 --> 01:14:04,430 Yes. 822 01:14:05,450 --> 01:14:12,930 Garmin Toliver. Yes, Slava. Yes, Snaar. Yes. Motion passes 7-0 and ordinance 2652 passes. 823 01:14:13,710 --> 01:14:16,330 That's all I had for the Finance Committee. Thank you, Mr. President. 824 01:14:16,590 --> 01:14:20,250 Thank you, Mr. Nulls. Mr. Slava back to Judiciary. 825 01:14:20,750 --> 01:14:26,410 Mr. President, we have two items and new business. The first one is three readings on Resolution 2643, 826 01:14:26,410 --> 01:14:30,850 which is the nature of services to be provided at 87 acres. 827 01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:35,550 Mrs. Moire gave us information on this during the public workshop. 828 01:14:36,350 --> 01:14:39,710 Is there any further questions or discussion on this resolution? 829 01:14:44,350 --> 01:14:48,750 Seeing not all move to get first reading by title only of Resolution 2643. 830 01:14:50,510 --> 01:14:55,850 I have a motion for first reading by title only of Resolution 2643 by Mr. Slayball. 831 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,720 Dr. Nulls, all in favor of signify by saying aye. Those are both likes aye. May have first reading a resolution 2643 by title only. 832 01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:29,820 Resolution R 2643, a resolution regarding the nature of services to be provided to 87.38 acres located in the Union Township on parcel number 270080401 of said track to the city of Wilmington as required by the Ohio High Revised Code and declaring an emergency. 833 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:38,160 Thank you, and I'll move to suspend the rules and regulations and give second-end third readings to Resolution 2643. 834 01:15:38,860 --> 01:15:39,280 Shagon. 835 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:44,480 And I have a motion to suspend the rules and regulations for second and third reading the resolution. 836 01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:48,620 2643 by Mr. Sleibahl, second by Mr. Knowles, roll call please. 837 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:49,740 Early? Yes. 838 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:50,880 Knowles? Yes. 839 01:15:51,140 --> 01:15:51,900 German? Yes. 840 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,180 Toliver? Yes. 841 01:15:53,180 --> 01:15:53,940 Sleibahl? Yes. 842 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:55,540 Snor? Yes. Well. 843 01:15:56,260 --> 01:16:10,840 Motion passes 7-0 may have second and third reading place resolution R2643 a resolution regarding the nature of services to be provided to 87.38 acres located in Union Township on parcel number 844 01:16:15,780 --> 01:16:24,680 2700804 01010 upon an exascent of said track to the city of Wilmington as required by the Ohio Revise code and declaring an emergency 845 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:27,440 Thank you. 846 01:16:27,660 --> 01:16:31,100 And I'll move for passage of resolution 2643 as a red. 847 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:31,500 Second. 848 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,440 I have a motion for passage of resolution 2643 by Mr. 849 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:35,940 Slayballs. 850 01:16:36,220 --> 01:16:37,100 Second by Mr. Nulls. 851 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:38,000 Roll call please. 852 01:16:38,260 --> 01:16:38,820 Nulls. 853 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:39,140 Yes. 854 01:16:39,380 --> 01:16:39,700 German. 855 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:40,180 Yes. 856 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:40,800 Toliver. 857 01:16:41,060 --> 01:16:41,360 Yes. 858 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:42,080 Slayball. 859 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:43,080 Snor. 860 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:43,580 Yes. 861 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:44,120 Well. 862 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:44,820 Yes. 863 01:16:44,820 --> 01:16:45,060 Early. 864 01:16:45,420 --> 01:16:45,760 Yes. 865 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:52,640 Motion passes 7-0 and resolution 2643 passes. 866 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:54,780 Thank you at our next item. 867 01:16:54,780 --> 01:17:03,580 is first reading only on Resolution 2644. This is regarding a transfer of a C-1-2 liquor permit to 868 01:17:03,580 --> 01:17:09,640 wall wall. I think we'll be getting more information on this forthcoming at our next meeting. 869 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:16,160 Is there any further discussion before we have first reading? Seeing not, I'll move to give first reading 870 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:22,960 by title only on Resolution 2644. Second. I have a motion for first reading by title only 871 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:28,800 Resolution 2644 by Mr. Slayball, second by Mr. Nalls, all in favor, signify by saying aye. 872 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:29,340 Aye. 873 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,040 As opposed, like sign. 874 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,420 May have first reading of Resolution 2644 by title only. 875 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:42,600 Resolution R2644, a resolution authorizing the mayor to sign the economic development transfer form. 876 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:49,840 directs allowing Wal-Waw Midwest LLC, Wal-Waw No. 7207, located at 5308, fields 877 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:55,340 Erdogan Road, Cincinnati, Ohio to transfer a C1N2, like a permit to Wal-Waw 878 01:17:55,340 --> 01:18:12,580 Midwest LLC, Wal-Waw No. 7218, located at 294 Rombock Avenue in the city of 879 01:18:12,580 --> 01:18:25,280 at the next one, we only have 30 days to respond once we've given this, so we're going to make the cut off right at the next council meeting. 880 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,600 Okay, so requesting second and third on our October 1st meeting, please. 881 01:18:31,340 --> 01:18:33,640 Thank you. That's all we have, Mr. Sheldon. 882 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,660 All right, thank you, Mr. Sheldon. Public Works Enterprise Committee, Mr. Tolver. 883 01:18:37,660 --> 01:18:39,740 No new business Mr. President. 884 01:18:40,340 --> 01:18:41,160 Thank you, Mr. Tolver. 885 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,680 Back around one more time reports of committees, city services, Mr. Wells. 886 01:18:46,860 --> 01:18:48,140 No report, Mr. President. 887 01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:49,260 Thank you, Mr. Wells. 888 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,780 Finance Committee, Mr. Nulls. 889 01:18:50,860 --> 01:18:51,960 No report, Mr. President. 890 01:18:52,180 --> 01:18:53,020 Thank you, Mr. Nulls. 891 01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:54,520 Judiciary Committee, Mr. Sleba. 892 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,560 No report, Mr. President. 893 01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:56,980 All right. 894 01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:58,160 Thank you, Mr. Sleba. 895 01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:59,900 Public Works, Mr. Tolver. 896 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,360 No report, Mr. President. 897 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:02,600 Thank you, Mr. Tolver. 898 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,760 You have one report before you. 899 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,560 It's the Auditors Report for August 2026, what's your pleasure? 900 01:19:10,260 --> 01:19:12,040 I do accept it as presented. 901 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:13,600 I second that. 902 01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:17,620 I have a motion to accept the Auditor Report as presented by Mr. Wells. 903 01:19:17,740 --> 01:19:21,000 Second by Mr. Toliver, all in favor, signify by say aye. 904 01:19:22,060 --> 01:19:23,080 I'm going to go to the next slide. 905 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,120 The Auditors Report for August 2026 is accepted. 906 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,280 I'd like to make a motion for adjournment. 907 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:30,740 Second. 908 01:19:30,740 --> 01:19:42,260 Now I have a motion to adjourn, I have a motion on the table, so back to me out of that, 909 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,620 I don't get the chance to do that very often. 910 01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:57,040 Can we, can we like to make a motion to neglect my, my original motion of adjournment? 911 01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:03,480 we can we just vote it down yeah if we can let's just vote it down that 912 01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:09,300 that would work can we do a roll call quickly to on that motion to adjourn 913 01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:10,360 no 914 01:20:13,180 --> 01:20:23,300 no no no no no we shouldn't fail Mr. Crow we're 915 01:20:27,330 --> 01:20:30,730 making some progress on our 916 01:20:30,730 --> 01:20:43,530 tank camping and the obstruction and treatment first definitely the right move but we have 917 01:20:43,530 --> 01:20:48,310 other problems I've been dealing with for quite a while that I'm going to need help with. 918 01:20:51,870 --> 01:20:59,790 The issue is, where are we going to get to treatment so there's not very many places 919 01:20:59,790 --> 01:21:08,870 and town. And unfortunately, two of them, and I can't get too far into this, are not operating 920 01:21:09,490 --> 01:21:15,370 with a certificate of occupancy. So there's going to be some issues there. They're going 921 01:21:15,370 --> 01:21:21,370 to be before the BCA. There could be two less places for people to get this treatment. 922 01:21:23,330 --> 01:21:26,810 Our zoning code needs some work. 923 01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:30,270 We hired one individual to help us work on that. 924 01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:33,770 We didn't get to the point we needed to get to. 925 01:21:34,730 --> 01:21:35,890 We let him go. 926 01:21:36,910 --> 01:21:45,650 Now I'm trying to figure out where we're going to make a reasonable accommodation for these 927 01:21:45,650 --> 01:21:46,570 and facilities. 928 01:21:47,850 --> 01:21:50,090 How we're going to address this in our zoning code, 929 01:21:52,540 --> 01:21:55,620 we have some bad players that have moved 930 01:21:55,620 --> 01:22:02,020 into town and to buildings that are going this underground and illegally. 931 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:09,660 We have some that I think, because of the code, probably didn't have much choice, 932 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:15,940 but 933 01:22:15,940 --> 01:22:25,360 point. We've got the legislation. We're saying let's get treated my first. We're where and how are we going to make these. 934 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:39,720 We're going to make these reasonable accommodations for these recovery places for them to get treatment. 935 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:50,620 And how do we get it cleared up in the zoning code where they don't come in under the pretense that they're a group family or adult family home when they don't meet the definition? 936 01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:58,120 How do we deal with all of that to get these people to help? 937 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:03,900 That is a fair question, and I will know, I believe, quite 938 01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:08,320 different from wrong, but I think the city of Newark first, it took them nine 939 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,760 months from when they passed legislation until they had the home program in 940 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,480 place, until they had people that were coming through treatment, and I think that 941 01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:23,120 would be the goal to get there. So I do know it's a process to implement that and 942 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,940 put it in place and figure out how that's going to look, but I think that is 943 01:23:27,940 --> 01:23:30,620 the direction we want to be seeing. 944 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,160 Thank you for raising this, you're right. 945 01:23:33,580 --> 01:23:35,300 You need to think about this quickly. 946 01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,420 When we were having discussion on the legislations, 947 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,400 Chief Gibson said he had a list of people that he could put together 948 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,940 that he could contact to help with that right now. 949 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,160 Some of these people may not be in operation. 950 01:23:49,480 --> 01:23:52,540 I don't know who was on that list, 951 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:56,140 but he had a list of people that he said he could put together for it. 952 01:23:56,140 --> 01:23:59,720 but they may not be operating with a certificate of occupancy right now. 953 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,000 They may not be there for him to call him. 954 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:03,400 I can. 955 01:24:03,860 --> 01:24:05,900 So we got to figure this out. 956 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:06,640 I understand. 957 01:24:07,580 --> 01:24:11,040 And I'm just a service director. 958 01:24:12,380 --> 01:24:12,900 I need help. 959 01:24:13,060 --> 01:24:13,960 You understand? 960 01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:20,940 One of the, I guess, I didn't take it was just a limited 961 01:24:20,940 --> 01:24:22,180 to the city of one weekend. 962 01:24:22,940 --> 01:24:27,000 Well, it's not that what are we going to do here in a moment? 963 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:30,760 Super great questions. 964 01:24:31,020 --> 01:24:31,460 I'm not going to go ahead. 965 01:24:31,460 --> 01:24:34,300 You're asking them because we know that this is the next step. 966 01:24:34,860 --> 01:24:35,940 Yeah, we know you need help. 967 01:24:36,580 --> 01:24:46,080 I was surprised a little bit when our last meeting, they said they had plenty of people to call. 968 01:24:47,220 --> 01:24:49,300 And I knew that we would probably be here at the next meeting. 969 01:24:49,420 --> 01:24:52,120 You may have some people to call, but we need even more than that. 970 01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:56,480 And there are several members on this council that are going to be working in a hope. 971 01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:03,520 You know, we're going to partner with the mayor's office as well to get the resources we need to push forward treatment first. 972 01:25:03,580 --> 01:25:04,780 Because that is the way it has to happen. 973 01:25:04,860 --> 01:25:06,840 But we realize you have to have the actual. 974 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,900 And is there anything as a council we can do to help on the zoning front? 975 01:25:14,150 --> 01:25:21,870 I think my next step and I've got a draft legislation right now. 976 01:25:21,870 --> 01:25:32,270 We have to pick an area in town that is a reasonable accommodation where these are permitted uses. 977 01:25:33,570 --> 01:25:37,870 They're not coming in and trying to meet the definition of something they're not. 978 01:25:38,030 --> 01:25:39,690 I mean, we spell it out as an encode. 979 01:25:39,890 --> 01:25:41,610 It's a recovery home. 980 01:25:43,670 --> 01:25:47,150 How does our code describe a recovery home? 981 01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:48,690 Our code don't address it. 982 01:25:48,690 --> 01:25:53,250 So what they try to do is they try to come in and say they're in a no family help. Yeah, right? 983 01:25:54,350 --> 01:26:01,930 So can do do we as council tighten up what that means or does the zoning port tighten up what that means? 984 01:26:03,630 --> 01:26:06,130 We need to address it with the zoning, but we need 985 01:26:07,130 --> 01:26:09,890 Right now I'm trying to work with the law director 986 01:26:10,570 --> 01:26:12,650 It would be really nice to have an expert 987 01:26:13,770 --> 01:26:18,670 In zoning agreed that we could contract with they could help us 988 01:26:19,230 --> 01:26:20,510 figure this out, 989 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,500 but we need to figure it out. 990 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:25,740 Yes, sir. 991 01:26:26,220 --> 01:26:28,500 Because if we're saying I'm treating 992 01:26:28,500 --> 01:26:31,100 my first and I'm closing them down in the BCA, 993 01:26:34,180 --> 01:26:35,140 that's counterproductive. 994 01:26:37,420 --> 01:26:39,380 Instead of we have experts in mind, 995 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,700 I don't, I don't know who to reach out to. 996 01:26:42,100 --> 01:26:46,440 At this point, I'm looking for the right person. 997 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,140 Mr. Crow, the University of Cincinnati has a whole 998 01:26:50,140 --> 01:26:53,260 college, maybe we could reach out. 999 01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:57,340 It's the design architecture and planning, DAAP, 1000 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,100 and so they have planning majors that, 1001 01:27:01,300 --> 01:27:03,620 so I assume there are then planning professors 1002 01:27:04,540 --> 01:27:10,840 that would be experts in that field and up to date. 1003 01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:13,300 Well, maybe our own law office, 1004 01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:17,260 law director's office might be able to help with that search 1005 01:27:17,260 --> 01:27:18,080 as well. 1006 01:27:18,780 --> 01:27:28,140 having contacts with other, not just law offices, but cities, attorneys, I am working with the current law director, right? 1007 01:27:29,740 --> 01:27:41,600 I'd be happy to throw out probably some names at some point if I could actually get approval to use an outside service for expertise. 1008 01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:47,420 So at that point we would need to do a resolution I'm assuming for that. 1009 01:27:52,030 --> 01:27:55,750 The law director needs to provide me. 1010 01:27:56,610 --> 01:27:57,850 It probably goes in. 1011 01:27:58,850 --> 01:28:00,850 The mayor's office is able to contract. 1012 01:28:01,930 --> 01:28:05,630 So it would just come out of the consultant services line, which means we'd be doing. 1013 01:28:06,370 --> 01:28:08,810 We would be supplementing that line again. 1014 01:28:09,730 --> 01:28:09,890 So. 1015 01:28:09,890 --> 01:28:12,190 That request though would not come from me. 1016 01:28:12,190 --> 01:28:13,390 Yeah, we're coming through though. 1017 01:28:13,690 --> 01:28:16,050 If we were wanting consulting services, 1018 01:28:17,410 --> 01:28:18,910 that was one of the methods. 1019 01:28:19,530 --> 01:28:22,350 If I could approach that, I have to get a little term 1020 01:28:22,350 --> 01:28:24,970 a little bit of a term, and I'm going to talk about it. 1021 01:28:26,150 --> 01:28:27,610 I don't know what I'm going to do with this. 1022 01:28:28,490 --> 01:28:28,650 OK. 1023 01:28:32,130 --> 01:28:35,210 If you are calling for this, and yes, 1024 01:28:35,410 --> 01:28:37,390 you have already been able to do it in the United States. 1025 01:28:38,170 --> 01:28:39,630 I don't know how to do it in the United States. 1026 01:28:40,590 --> 01:28:46,630 Is that a special, is that someone with both a law degree and a planning degree that you're looking for? 1027 01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:51,430 I think this is somebody that's, this well-versed in zoning. 1028 01:28:52,190 --> 01:28:56,990 You know, we have a law department to help us with the legal endeavor between Desmond and Brooke. 1029 01:28:59,210 --> 01:29:08,630 I just hate to, I hate for Sam and I to come up with, we're going to put reasonable accommodations in this section of town and bring it before you. 1030 01:29:08,630 --> 01:29:14,990 And I'm not an expert in where the choices should be. 1031 01:29:14,990 --> 01:29:24,090 I would prefer to have somebody that really knows where these places fit, you know, where they, 1032 01:29:24,670 --> 01:29:32,590 you know, from what I understand in a reasonable accommodation there has to be a certain amount of housing in that zone at their end. 1033 01:29:32,590 --> 01:29:42,270 They have to have access with probably within walking distance to places that can work, to treatment facilities. 1034 01:29:44,170 --> 01:29:47,010 We just, we need to find the right spot. 1035 01:29:47,210 --> 01:29:50,890 I think we need to do this all together. 1036 01:29:52,110 --> 01:29:55,410 Instead of me just trying to figure out and then break something to you. 1037 01:29:55,410 --> 01:29:56,610 Absolutely agree. 1038 01:29:59,190 --> 01:29:59,330 Yeah. 1039 01:29:59,470 --> 01:29:59,910 Mr. Star. 1040 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,960 Have time in the next workshop to bring in some of the local experts that just explained to us what's available, what do they need, where do we send people out of town? 1041 01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:16,840 I know that there are agencies in town that send a lot of people out of town to homes and that sort of thing. 1042 01:30:17,140 --> 01:30:21,600 We just understood the situation better. I don't know if we have time for that or not. Next workshop. 1043 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:28,500 It depends on where the police department lands, but yes, give us the contact and we'll see what we can. 1044 01:30:30,300 --> 01:30:31,980 see what we can come up with. 1045 01:30:32,380 --> 01:30:34,360 So I don't have chief gifts in here to. 1046 01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:34,820 Good idea. 1047 01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,200 He may take both of those next. 1048 01:30:37,380 --> 01:30:39,100 Next time, so it might be a month away. 1049 01:30:40,700 --> 01:30:42,220 I just want to get the conversation started. 1050 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:43,380 Thank you, Mike. 1051 01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:43,760 Thank you. 1052 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:44,020 Thank you. 1053 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,020 Was there another comment or question? 1054 01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:52,980 Is there any further business for the city you want to? 1055 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:55,200 All right. 1056 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,300 Seeing none, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 1057 01:30:58,300 --> 01:30:59,200 Let's move. 1058 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:01,080 Is there a second? 1059 01:31:01,260 --> 01:31:01,860 And a second. 1060 01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:04,160 Mr. Noll's moved to adjourn. 1061 01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:05,800 Mr. early seconded. 1062 01:31:06,020 --> 01:31:07,240 We are adjourned. 1063 01:31:09,220 --> 01:31:09,920 All right, move out.