1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Our 2 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:12,040 January the 8th 2026 blue commission meeting 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,040 you'll do our prayer. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:21,039 Let's pray. Lord we come to you today give you the most high praise and honor. 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,560 Lord we thank you for your word and gifts of spirit that you have given us 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,880 to help us through life. Lord there's no better life than a life that's led by 7 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:33,120 your hand. We thank you for your son who died on the cross for our sins. Lord, 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:39,440 paid the ultimate sacrifice so we can have a life of eternity spent with you. 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:44,320 Lord, um let us remember that the road to life is narrow. Help us to make the 10 00:00:42,079 --> 00:00:50,160 right decisions and stay on that that narrow road. Lord, give us the guidance 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:55,039 and wisdom to be the best that we can be. Lord, as we carry out our work, keep 12 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:58,559 our men and women safe out on the roads. And as always, let everything go to the 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,920 uplifting building of your kingdom in Jesus name. Amen. 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,920 » Amen. >> Amen. 15 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:11,600 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:17,920 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty, 17 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:21,520 justice for all. >> Thank you. 18 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:26,320 Anyone here wishing to speak for the road commission today? 19 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Seeing none, we close public comment. Go the system superintendent report. 20 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:35,680 » Chase, I'm sorry. Do the minutes first. We a motion to approve the bench. 21 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,000 » Second. >> Second. All 22 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:42,840 » in favor say I. >> Sorry. Keep me on track. 23 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:50,640 On your subdivision list. We uh we had the water mill subdivision come 24 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,720 off to your maintenance site. That become ours. 25 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,759 Uh we've done a lot of work because of the weather. We ain't got nothing that 26 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:03,200 really changed on the list, but we got a lot of things covered up. A lot of 27 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:08,640 subdivisions for the winter. Um and in good shape. Uh we got about four or five 28 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:12,720 subdivisions we got in good shape for the winter. Springtime we ought to be 29 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:18,879 able to get them uh swapped over for maintenance 30 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:21,879 or at least get some more asphalt down. Um, 31 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:33,040 we do got a new road list to book there. We had about 32 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:38,800 3.17 miles of road that that going in on our book on the new road list. Like to 33 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:43,360 get y'all's approval on. And on that first sheet in that book, it's got all 34 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:46,480 the all the roads. A lot of them are just adding on the previous roads we 35 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:50,720 had. There are a few that are are running the road subdivision roads but 36 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:53,200 like to add them to our road list to take care of. Motion to approve. 37 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:58,480 » Second. >> Okay. 38 00:02:53,920 --> 00:03:02,480 » Any discussion? All in favor say I. >> That's all I got. 39 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:06,720 » Any questions for Chase? You see none. They hear a motion to 40 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:13,879 approve his report. So move. All in favor say I. I. 41 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,879 Superintendent report. Mr. Steve Mury. 42 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:24,400 Uh I know we got a few things we need to 43 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:30,000 discuss today about got discussion on some bridges and some east division. 44 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:36,560 U Mr. Bobby and I talked about few things 45 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:40,720 and uh I'll let Mr. Bob you want to talk about each vision? We'll go ahead and 46 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:44,560 talk about each. Well, I talked to Chad about this because it's not in my road 47 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:50,000 commission district, although a bunch of my constituents drive up and down it. 48 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:55,120 Probably everybody's doing it. Um, you know, 25 years ago, I spent a lot of 49 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:58,400 time begging money from T dot and I was down there all the time. 50 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:03,519 Probably 20, 30 times I went down there trying to get a grant for this and a 51 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:08,480 grant for that. And you know, in the big leagues, if you hit 300, you can get in 52 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,400 the Hall of Fame. If you hit 100 at T Dot, you'll get in the Hall of Fame. I 53 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:17,199 didn't ever hit 100. It's It's hard to get road projects. It's hard to get 54 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:20,079 grants. But I'll tell you the way I think we're going at this East Division, 55 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,360 I don't think we're ever going to get a grant. I don't think Mount Jul's going 56 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:28,000 to get a grand. I don't think Lemon is going to get a grant. And I'll tell you 57 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:33,120 why. Cuz I got to thinking about it. It's only a five mile road. 58 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:37,840 And T Dot is not going to want to see that thing peacemeal and fixed. They're 59 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:42,400 not going to want to grant Lebanon a little half a mile and us two and a half 60 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,199 miles and Mount Julie a couple miles. They're not going to do that because 61 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:50,479 we'll all get fussing about it. They don't like that. 62 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:54,880 So, I got thinking maybe there's a better chance that we all have we got 63 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:58,960 together and went down there with a project because there's three lines at T 64 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,000 dot. If you go down there and try to ask for money, there's three lines you can 65 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:08,240 get into. One of them is the is the dream. I got 66 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:12,080 an idea. It's a long line. The second one is a a plan. You go down there with 67 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:15,199 a plan. You roll up a tube and you can go down there and have a plan. It's a 68 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,720 pretty long line, too. If you go down there with a project, 69 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:23,759 you know, it still probably take a while, but at least it's a short line. 70 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:28,320 And and I don't see any other way we're going to get a grant. And I talked Chad 71 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:33,120 about this. And I know there's a lot of ideas about going to this bad section of 72 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:37,280 East Division and fixing that and going over here and fixing this, but that's 73 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:40,080 not going to fix East Division. That's just going to chase the problem to the 74 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:44,400 other part of East Division. We're going to have to fix the whole road, right? Am 75 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:49,039 I wrong about I mean, am I saying anything out of out of out of step here? 76 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:54,479 I mean, it's five mile road. It don't have shoulders on it for most of it. And 77 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,360 the problem is is if if somebody puts a tire off, they look at their phone or 78 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:59,759 whatever, they put a tire off the road, they overcorrect getting back on the 79 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,600 road and next thing you know, you got another head-on collision. That's what's 80 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:08,800 that's what's been happening. And so the only way that I see how to fix it. So, 81 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:12,400 how will we do that? Well, we're going to have to figure out a way 82 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:17,120 to all get together. I think Mount Julie's already designing a project, but 83 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,000 they're even admitting they think they're going to have trouble getting 84 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:24,319 their grant because it's only like a couple miles. They're not the whole road 85 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:28,880 either. So, is T dot going to give them a grant to go two miles and stop? Well, 86 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:32,160 they might even make it worse because somewhere it's going to have to taper 87 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,639 back down to the old road again. So, I don't think they're going to do that. 88 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:39,840 They rather give the money to somebody in West Tennessee somewhere. So, I guess 89 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:45,280 what I'm bringing to the the board today is any ideas y'all got how we if if it's 90 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,560 a good idea to try to work with Lebanon and Mount Mount Juliet to try to do 91 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:54,160 this, try to get together beforehand, try to go down there all together 92 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:58,400 and how do we do that? You know, I'm open for suggestions cuz that that's not 93 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:02,639 even going to be easy. I mean, they're busy. We're busy. We got different road 94 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:07,520 crosssections. I got different road cross-sections. 95 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,960 So I just want to throw it up there. Tip ball 96 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:14,160 on the M yet Jet portion. Are they going to the Golden Bear on Division? 97 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:17,280 » Pretty much. Maybe a little past there to go to Rutland, right? 98 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:20,080 » Rutland. Okay. It's right there where the barbecue place used to be. 99 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:24,080 » Yes, sir. >> Right. So that's a pretty good section. 100 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,080 » Couple miles. >> Yeah. 101 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:29,919 » It's in the RPT. >> Well, I do think we need to try to come 102 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,919 together and get the whole thing resolved. 103 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:41,280 What do you think, Mayor? >> Well, I met with uh Tony yesterday with 104 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:46,240 Cyer uh and u because I talked to him about the options of doing the 3 million 105 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:51,520 and fixing those four spots and he felt like that the um the data they went with 106 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:57,360 the last time uh had gone up 40% on traffic and 35% on crashes. And he felt 107 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:03,680 like he could apply between now and May or April with this FWA grant of the 108 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:09,199 SS4A. and he felt like they would get that this time. They got four roads this 109 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:15,280 last award in Mount Jet, he shared those with me. So I said, so before I talked 110 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:19,360 to Chad about doing that 3 million here, uh I said, "Let's do the timelines on 111 00:08:17,039 --> 00:08:24,720 both." So we did a timeline on the grant, which he said could be delivered 112 00:08:21,599 --> 00:08:30,000 by December of 27, not funded till March. Uh and he said, "But so you're 113 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:35,680 looking if you went ahead and did the 3 million on the four spots right now that 114 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:39,039 in 6 months you would tear it out if you got the grant." And he said he feels 115 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:44,159 good about the grant because those four ones that were granted for Mount Got uh 116 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:47,760 this last year. So he has said he's committed to applying for that and 117 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:54,880 making that happen. So on East Division, the RTP uh regional 118 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:59,920 transportation plan 2050 plan uh is in the work. I talked to T dot after being 119 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:04,399 you talked. Uh they feel like Jay Norris feels like they do have a good shot of 120 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:08,720 getting uh Mount G some funding for that one from Mount Giet Road to Rutland 121 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:13,279 Drive and then we would pick up Rutland Drive to the city limits of Lebanon. 122 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:18,240 » Now let's see from Rutland Drive to the bridge is still city of Mount Jup. 123 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:21,920 » Yep. >> So you got almost a mile there that's in 124 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,399 the city of Mount Jup. >> Mhm. 125 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,279 » So why are they stopping that road? Well, that's what I was wondering. Yeah, 126 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:32,640 it's just crazy. >> Well, that just passed a Golden Bear. 127 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:36,240 So, they did it to Golden Bear and then they go past Golden Bear and they 128 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,440 stopping it. >> So, they're going to leave the other 129 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:43,920 part of their city out. >> Well, I mean, that's the project they 130 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:46,720 carried, uh, which is completely fine. So, I mean, that's their project. Glad 131 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:50,160 they're doing that. We're not having to worry about doing that. And then Tony 132 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,519 felt like I could pick up at Rutland Drive and car it with the city's 133 00:09:51,519 --> 00:09:57,519 cooperation because we we already have their endorsement from last time that we 134 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:02,160 applied for this them and Kristen Rice as well. Matt White was the Mount Ger 135 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,760 one who did that. So he feels good about that. 136 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,399 » Okay. >> Because I was going to come to you today 137 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,680 because we had talked last last time about let's get that 3 million going. 138 00:10:07,839 --> 00:10:14,160 But he said so right now you get that grant that's 8020 match. That 3 million 139 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:18,000 is going to go a long way on a 20 match as opposed to putting it out there and 140 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:23,279 it being tore up in six months. Okay. So, that brings us back to u a 141 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:28,000 question then. So, how far is it from Rutland to the bridge? 142 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,959 » It's it's it's probably I'm going to say it's close to a mile. It might be 710 143 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,279 something like that. >> Okay. So, let's just say a mile. So, on 144 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:38,880 the other side of that uh where the city led comes in to where it's it's wide 145 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,399 right there in front of the fire station. How far is that from there to 146 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,959 the bridge? >> Probably a couple three miles. Two and a 147 00:10:44,079 --> 00:10:48,560 half three miles. >> Okay. All right. I was speaking the 148 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:52,079 same. If you're going to do a mile for Mount Julie, you might as well do a mile 149 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:58,320 for 11 and cover the whole thing >> cuz see you got see we've got a right 150 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:03,120 past the last two turn lanes that we've done. We've got another one just another 151 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:06,000 development fixing come in and they're going to fix that box coverage there and 152 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:10,640 they're going to make a three lanes there too. So that's going to be another 153 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:16,160 pretty good section of the road that's going to be fixed. So 154 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:20,399 » Okay. So, but you're saying that he's guaranteed to get that or 155 00:11:18,079 --> 00:11:23,279 » Well, I'm going to say he he he probably ain't guaranteeing he's going to get it. 156 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,279 He's hoping he's going to get it cuz see, we've done applied for three 157 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:31,760 different ones out there on the east division and didn't get none of them. 158 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:35,760 » Yeah, you applied for it once. >> One time the sec. No, second one never 159 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,680 got applied for. >> Okay. 160 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,720 » We had that conversation yesterday. That's why I called him in cuz I said 161 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:45,200 that's not what we had conversation about before. But he said nobody 162 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:49,200 followed up with him. And that's a that that what he said by 163 00:11:47,839 --> 00:11:52,720 the time he went to do that because we went back and found the time when the 164 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:57,680 » You talking with Tony or Aaron? >> Talk to Tony. We met with him yesterday. 165 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:00,320 » But I know I Aaron last time applied for us. 166 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:05,519 » Yeah. Did you get that? >> Well, I hate to be negative. So, here's 167 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:09,680 the problem with this. Every time you ride in a road, you got to you got to go 168 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:14,720 get rideway. You got to move the utilities. You you gotta you got to get 169 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:18,959 people there. You got to bring dump trucks in. You gota you gota bid it out. 170 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:22,320 You you got to start project, right? So if you got Lebanon doing it and we doing 171 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:26,480 it and Mount Julia doing it all separate, you're going to do all that 172 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:30,880 stuff three times and you're not going to do it at the same time and you're 173 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:34,000 going to build three different roads. They're not going to match. They're not 174 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:40,399 going to be built at the same time by the same people. and and it's going to 175 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:44,160 take forever to wind up with something that's going to be peacemeal even when 176 00:12:42,079 --> 00:12:48,079 it's done. And and so I guess what I'm trying to say is 5 miles ain't a long 177 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:55,920 road for T dot. Mount Juliet from Highway 70 to Providence is 5 miles. 178 00:12:51,120 --> 00:13:00,720 They did that in 18 months. They did that. I was there. It was 144 pieces of 179 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:05,279 right away. Every utility was moved, everything. But it was a five mile 180 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:11,040 project. But we're wanting to bust this up into three little bitty projects. 181 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,200 Even if T dot did grant it, we're essentially going to tell the public 182 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:16,240 they're going to be in a construction project from now on. They're going to be 183 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:21,440 three different ones and we ain't going to have control over two of them. And so 184 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:24,639 I I guess the alternative would be and maybe it's not an alternative. Maybe the 185 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:29,040 city of Lebanon and the city of Mount Julie don't want to do this and and and 186 00:13:26,959 --> 00:13:34,639 wouldn't want to work with us. But on the other hand, what what if we could do 187 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:37,360 it that way? What if we could just say, you know, when we do the rightway, we're 188 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,399 going to get all the right away. When we do move the the utilities on this five 189 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,839 miles, we're going to do it all at the same time. If nothing else, the people 190 00:13:42,399 --> 00:13:48,320 going up and down east division are going to be a whole lot less troubled by 191 00:13:46,079 --> 00:13:51,040 it. And so, you know, you see what I'm saying? And it might even enhance our 192 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:56,560 ability to get the grant because remember if if we connect with Mount 193 00:13:54,399 --> 00:14:00,320 Juliet and Lebanon and us, there's three different, you know, cities and counties 194 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:05,760 going down there and asking, that's that's a lot. We're all agreeing. Plus, 195 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:09,199 we got the biggest commercial building in state of Tennessee down 196 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:13,279 there. It's Amazon. I mean, they know that, 197 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:17,920 right? They know it's grown down there and bound you adding to it. We'd kind of 198 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:22,160 be I think I think we'd enhance everybody's chances of getting the 199 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:26,000 project. The downside is we'd have to work with Leon Mount Juliet. We'd have 200 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,639 to agree on a cross-section. We'd have to agree. We'd have to agree what the 201 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,079 road's going to look like on the front end, but I'm not sure that's a bad 202 00:14:30,079 --> 00:14:35,120 thing. Do you really want us to fix it and go through all this trouble and it 203 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,959 be like this all the way down it? I mean, I'm just 204 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:44,399 » I agree. I agree with everything you said, but I we've been sitting here for 205 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:48,800 the last 3 or 4 years hoping and wishing on a prayer that we get a grant. We've 206 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:53,360 got to put the foot forward somewhere and and start something. Uh I mean, and 207 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:57,440 and we do. I mean, seriously, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but and but 208 00:14:55,519 --> 00:15:02,320 I'm willing to do what the mayor says because he feels pretty good about it. 209 00:14:59,839 --> 00:15:05,120 Why Why don't we wait till April and Well, that April is when he applies 210 00:15:03,839 --> 00:15:08,320 though, right? Or is that when he'll know something? We're getting applied in 211 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:12,639 April. And I think that to go back to your conversation, it can be done at the 212 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,720 same time. What we're having discussion about right now is finding the funding. 213 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,440 » Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, Mountain G, it'd be great 214 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,519 to do at the same time. If they get the funding, that's good, but if they can't 215 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:22,320 get the money, they can't get the funding. But the county park that we are 216 00:15:21,199 --> 00:15:25,199 in charge of, >> we need to get on the stick and get it 217 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,839 done. And we didn't apply the last time. >> That's right. 218 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:31,440 » Uh, and that put that on me. I'm fine with that being on me. I'm going to make 219 00:15:29,199 --> 00:15:35,040 damn sure it gets applied for this time because there two two people lost their 220 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,480 life on that road and we need to apply for that. And and I would I was fine 221 00:15:36,959 --> 00:15:42,240 with going ahead and pushing for this three million and fix those four bad 222 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:46,800 spots. If they going to tear it down in 6 months now that that that that don't 223 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:50,720 make any sense to me in my opinion and I'll know by December if we don't get it 224 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:55,759 then yeah then take the 3 million and go pick 73 spots cuz then it's a long way 225 00:15:53,680 --> 00:16:00,959 away. But we got to have funding. And then they can if we get the funding, if 226 00:15:57,519 --> 00:16:04,160 we get the FWA with SS4A, that's fine. Then coordinate them with Mount Jude 227 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,199 said, "Hey, if you'll pony up and get your grant going, let's do it all at one 228 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,079 time with one construction group." I got no problem with that. But right now, we 229 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:14,959 don't have a dime and we ain't got enough money to go do it. Nobody does. 230 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:18,000 So, I mean that I mean I spent the last four days working on ever since you 231 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:22,720 called me about putting a committee together. I said, "Hey, I called T dot, 232 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:26,480 talked to Jay Norris for a while." Yeah. and Jay and and of course I mean and we 233 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:30,800 and we've identified and I want to get with you guys pretty soon in Christopher 234 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:35,360 because we've talked just this recently about how do we handle subdivisions one 235 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:39,040 going in out there on Maple Hill this is a conversation you know how do we handle 236 00:16:37,199 --> 00:16:43,360 it I called Michael Skipper Michael said you know you can ask if they annex into 237 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:48,000 the city you don't really have any say so but he said if you want to ask that 238 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:52,959 developer to do a traffic shed study to find out what it's going to cause your 239 00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:56,240 network county roads ask them to pay for that and do that. Now, they won't pay 240 00:16:54,320 --> 00:17:00,959 for all that improvement on those roads because you get aft for that, but they 241 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:05,280 could be asked to pay for some of that. Now, they may tell you to take a flying 242 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:09,039 leap, but he says right now there is no money out there for that in any county 243 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:13,120 uh in Tennessee. And so, we all have to ask, but that's what the public has been 244 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:16,720 asking us forever. Development goes in, what are you doing about my county road? 245 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,000 And that's and that's something that that we're going to sit down this next 246 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:23,919 week if we can and address. How do we address those? because we've got to do 247 00:17:21,919 --> 00:17:28,079 that. We've done everything else in the county. We've added wingless stations, 248 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:33,280 jails, schools, everything else. But our county roads need some attention. And 249 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:36,480 that's not really on you because as I've learned, road commissions were not 250 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:41,280 designed to build roads. No, they're not doing it anywhere in the state. But as 251 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,640 we've all learned this growth, they're all paying right now because they're 252 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,600 getting traffic they can't handle and you don't have the budget for that. So 253 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,200 something's going to have to be done or have a plan to address that. And that's 254 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:54,880 what I want to talk Well, yeah, but I mean, and I agree with you one thing 255 00:17:52,720 --> 00:18:00,160 that none of this is any of y'all's fault. It don't have anything to do with 256 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:04,799 us. Technically, it's our fault cuz we're letting development come in and 257 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:08,640 we're getting outgrown and the roads are not keeping up. The water's not keeping 258 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:12,400 up. The sewer's not keeping up, and we we keep putting stuff in. I mean, you 259 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:16,320 know, and that's just the way I feel about it. So, and I had to take a hard 260 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:19,200 look to figure out because I was like, man, I got to go out to the road 261 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:23,520 commission. we need to get these roads fixed. Then I'm like, man, well, over 262 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,320 here, this development, you know, I just got one out there on Hartsville Pike. I 263 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:30,240 think it's the greatest thing. They could put three 400 houses in there. 264 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,679 They only want to put 70. So, you know, and and of course the people out there 265 00:18:31,919 --> 00:18:38,160 was kind of fussing about that and they don't understand. You can put 300 there, 266 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:42,160 but he's just want to put 70, you know. So, but once we start adding them, of 267 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,919 course, Archville Pike's wide enough that they can handle the flow of the 268 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,400 traffic and all of that stuff, but what if they turn around and go back to 269 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:55,039 Spring Creek trying to get to Tucker's Crossroads uh uh school? It's narrow. I 270 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:59,440 mean, the road is narrow. And so, um we we still I I had I had that on my mind. 271 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,559 You got Philips Road. It's a one lane bridge going down through there. And so, 272 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:06,559 and and that's where they're going to go. They're building houses over in 273 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:10,480 there, too. So, we just got to do something. I mean, we we have to do 274 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:13,440 something. We might have to start, you know, thinking about it in this new 275 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:17,760 budget or whatever that we're going to have to set money aside to build these 276 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:20,880 roads, you know, somewhere. And I ain't talking about just pulling a little bit 277 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:24,400 from here, a little bit from there. We need a fund to start building these 278 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:28,160 roads. I I I firmly believe that. >> And we set aside the fund for the 279 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:32,480 mineral tax. And you may want to address in November 280 00:19:29,919 --> 00:19:37,120 putting the will tax out. And that's let the people vote on that's 3.75 million 281 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:41,039 to do that. But when you say this body right here has it at fault, we don't 282 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:45,600 approve subdivision and we can't commissioners. Yeah. And we but but 283 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:49,280 commissioners don't approve subdivisions either. And we can't stop uh that 284 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,160 annexation from going into the city. I mean they've left that to the people. 285 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:56,480 Now the people get to ask that. The city's not asking that. And the growth 286 00:19:53,840 --> 00:20:02,080 that we've taken a beating for 85% of it's in the city. It ain't in your 287 00:19:57,919 --> 00:20:06,160 county. I mean you can go a lot. We got >> He's right. But you're full. You can say 288 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:08,799 he's right cuz you're full. >> Well, 289 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:12,559 » I've got empty land. I've got empty land out there that that's not 290 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:15,919 » But the past little bit has been 15% of the growth has been in the county, 291 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:19,039 » right? And and so when they get on the horn and say, "Hey, if you don't want 292 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:22,160 traffic, you know, increase those lot size of two acres." You can increase lot 293 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:25,520 size to 50 acres, but I'm still going to have traffic because the growth that 294 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:26,320 I've got is inside the city that I don't control. 295 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,679 » Right. >> Yeah. And if we can address and get a 296 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:33,360 little bit of the developer to help us on some of these network roads, that's 297 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,240 the best bang that we got in my opinion for this. I don't know if there's 298 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,039 anything else we can do. But again, we can only ask. Mike will tell you, we 299 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,720 can't make them do nothing. >> Well, I got one dumb question then. 300 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:46,480 We're going to go about this way and we do get it. Let's just say we do get a 301 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:51,120 grant. We're going to have to get right away. What if they don't want to sell? 302 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,039 » Well, the people in the east division don't want to sell right away. Are we 303 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:58,320 Are we going to Are we You have to condemn it. Okay. Is it Is it Are we all 304 00:20:57,679 --> 00:21:01,280 prepared to >> I don't I I really don't think you'll 305 00:20:59,919 --> 00:21:05,360 have one person because they're probably tired of them raking in their yard. 306 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:08,159 » Yeah. You'd be surprised, you know, we >> Well, then they're going to lose because 307 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,520 that road needs to be wide. >> I get it. 308 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:14,640 » Yeah. >> You know, by by peace mealing and I 309 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:17,600 guess I guess the other thing I I just leave y'all with, y'all won't go this 310 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:21,280 route, that's fine because it's a long way off to do it anyway either way. 311 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:25,679 » Well, you look at four or five years at least. Yes. And if we don't get a grant, 312 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:30,000 Mount Juliet strikes out too, and we're both in the same boat, 313 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:34,799 we we may have to do what I'm I'm suggesting because it does increase our 314 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:37,600 odds of getting it if we go with more people. 315 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:41,440 » Yeah. But it don't hurt to do what you're doing, too. Whichever one comes 316 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:46,240 first is what I look at it. >> Yeah. So, mayor, what you're saying is 317 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:50,159 who you talked to, um he y'all are trying to get something done for our 318 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:55,280 whole section, correct? fire section the the uh the regional transportation plan 319 00:21:53,200 --> 00:22:00,480 already has the project enlisted and money committed to it for east division 320 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:04,720 from Mount Jet road to Rutland Drive. So that already has that's already in the 321 00:22:02,159 --> 00:22:07,840 works. So I know you know this but so for every road that have to have to get 322 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,799 started the first thing it's got to do it's got to get to GNRC it's got to get 323 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,320 on the NO it's got to get on the regional transportation plan. Once it 324 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:17,679 gets there then the next step for it to do is to get into the tip three the 325 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,640 transportation improvement plan which is a three-year plan. And that means it's 326 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,799 got some funding dedication. Then it's got to get to the 10-year plan uh of T 327 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:28,320 dot. They've got to accept it. But T do DOT is not going to accept any road 328 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:33,440 that's not started out in the GNRC. Period. And and and so for us in our 329 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,400 county road, we have to get that road on that list. And we've got to get a 330 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:41,120 funding source. And the funding source is the SS4A grant. Unless you want to 331 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:44,080 pony up the money to do it. Bottom line. So right now we got a chance for a 332 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:47,360 grant, which is the best thing for your citizens to get 80% of that money. And 333 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:51,280 if we don't go apply for that, I think we we don't look very smart. So, we do 334 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,640 that and then we take the three men we was going to spend on those side parts 335 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:58,400 and put that towards the match, which that we do have that money to be able to 336 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:02,320 do that. But we get that grant once we get the grant then we're fine to go and 337 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,919 say, "Hey, can we get Mountain JW and us to work and do the road all at the same 338 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:09,360 time? We got the funding and now can you come up with the rest of your funding 339 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:13,280 and and we could do it all at one time." That's your issue is peacemail them. But 340 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:17,760 we peacemail every day. Every time one of them new division, some one of those 341 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,640 new uh commercial buildings go in, they peace build the road right in front of 342 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:25,280 it. But you're not gonna let them not do that, you know. Yeah. 343 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:29,760 » So, I guess my take of it is out in that area for hearing people. It'd be good if 344 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:32,720 we could do our stretch cuz I hate to see us spend three or four million cuz 345 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,240 then they're going to wreck right past that spot we fixed. You know what I'm 346 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,760 saying? >> Yeah. If you don't do that stretch and 347 00:23:35,919 --> 00:23:41,840 Mount J gets there done, it stops at one lane. Goes right back down two lanes. 348 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:45,679 » That that stretch is our responsibility. me and a mile of it's in the city of M 349 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:50,480 city of Mount J. We may ask for some help there. But I mean that is our road. 350 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:53,840 » Yeah. But I I'm I'm I'm going to piggy back off what Chad was 351 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:58,799 talking about. I'd like to know the numbers because I feel like where the 352 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:01,280 most of the wrecks are happening is in the county. 353 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,760 » Sure. >> It's up it's up 40%. Let's say down 354 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,559 there where Matt Jet took over too >> down there 355 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,000 doing it on both. >> It's in it's in both. 356 00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:14,960 » Yeah. Yeah. It's that whole stretch is is 357 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:20,240 » Yeah. But and I and I will say this. I mean that amount to ever be 358 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,600 » since we've lowered the speed limit. If you'll go down there and drive at the 359 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,720 speed limit, you don't have no problem, >> right? Go ahead. It's just a shoulder. 360 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,240 It's all over. >> It's just a shoulder. But I we went down 361 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:34,000 there and restriped it and if you go down there and drive it like you're 362 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:38,640 supposed to, you don't have no problem. But now I know people don't do that, 363 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:42,559 » right? You know, I mean, it's like when it tells you in your handbook or when I 364 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,120 got my license in the handbook says I'm supposed to be have control of my 365 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:51,120 vehicle at all times, >> right? I mean, you know, if you drive it 366 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:55,600 like you're supposed to, you don't have any issue. And the issues with the 367 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:59,919 tractor trailers and the dump trucks and stuff on there, I mean, we run into that 368 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:02,480 just recently. They got 16,000 loads got to come out of Walmart up there and 369 00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:06,640 they're taking that over. >> Well, I don't know why they don't use 370 00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:11,279 Golden Bear anyway. Well, so here's >> you can't use Golden Bear 371 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:14,480 » cuz they the the DOT will not let you on interstate. You can haul 10 tons over 372 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,880 there at a time. >> I'm talking about truck and trailer. 373 00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:21,080 » Oh yeah. >> Yeah. I thought you they were defining 374 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,320 truckers. >> Yeah. 375 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,159 » But and you know I mean but you can't stop them, 376 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:33,039 » right? >> But that situation we dealt with there 377 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:37,279 is that they got 16,000 loads has got to come out of there. Uh, and so Gary Nooks 378 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:40,880 called me and he said, "Hey, they're wearing up my road back here with this 379 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:43,840 with this dump truck." So I called Daryl Gilly and he said, he said, "Well, 380 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,880 here's the deal." He said, and I called the sheriff, too. He said, he said, I 381 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,240 said, "Can you just not come down? You're going over the pardon me day cam. 382 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:53,279 Can you not just get on 109 and come down hit Franklin Road and go in?" He 383 00:25:51,919 --> 00:25:56,320 said, "No, cuz when I come out of there, you going to make me take a rot. And 384 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,840 then when I get up there to the to the interstate, you ain't going to let me do 385 00:25:57,919 --> 00:26:03,679 a U-turn. And then when I try to go down interstate, I got $1,800 ticket the 386 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:08,159 other day because they cut the load lift down. So yeah, the only place I got to 387 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:12,320 go is uh Camp Brown Road, Nel Road, Franklin Road in there. And he said, "So 388 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,279 what they've done with the new law is forced our county roads to take all this 389 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:19,039 traffic." >> Yep. And those laws are not there. 390 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:23,039 They're they they're just enforcing they was I looked it up is back in 1970 391 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,520 when that highway >> This is the new the new law though is 392 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:29,039 where they >> they dropped the weight limit on you. So 393 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,559 that so you're right. >> It's been there since 1970. The weight 394 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:36,640 limit has been there since 1970. >> But they dropped it some more. They just 395 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,440 » No, I can haul I can haul 15 tons on the interstate. That's it. 396 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,000 » That's it. >> So the new 397 00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:44,880 » No, I'm sorry. My truck can only haul 13. If you got aluminum bed, you can 398 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,720 haul 15. >> So the new law that Daryl said and that 399 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,240 Jay Norris sent me yesterday. I said, send me a copy of the email was one that 400 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,080 was put in there by Department of Safety that lowered that 401 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,240 » again. >> Yes, sir. And that's why he said, "So, I 402 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,520 mean, I can't," he said, "I can't take a half a load." 403 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:02,159 » No. >> Yeah. 404 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,320 » I mean, I knew I knew that's the reason why they was doing it. But on the other 405 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,200 end on Franklin, you know, Haskell come up there. Robert stood up there and 406 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:14,159 said, "I'm we're going to write them tickets." I mean, so you can't go there. 407 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,400 You can't go anywhere in in the county or the city for that. 408 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:19,600 » So, that went on best road. He said, "Hey, look, keep them off of Best Road." 409 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,880 And he said, "Mary, I'll do whatever you want me to do, but the site that y'all 410 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:26,320 flew for me to work on is over on McQuary Road. So if you don't want me to 411 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,400 turn down best, that's fine. If I go down to 452 like you asked me to, then I 412 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,440 can't and I turn down on Mcquaryy. I can't cross that bridge because of 413 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,640 weight limit. So I'll do whatever you want me to do. T won't let me get on 414 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,080 interstate, but you just tell me which one you want me to do. I'll be glad to 415 00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:38,799 do it. >> Yep. 416 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:42,159 » Yeah. >> They're wearing me out over on Riverview 417 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:46,720 Road and I talked to Steve. They're all cutting through. I don't know. But 418 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:51,120 anyway, so you're working on division. So working on yeah working on division 419 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:54,559 and also working on um see with the department of safety to see if we can 420 00:27:52,320 --> 00:28:00,320 get a waiver for those 16,000 load to actually use 109 I mean use interstate 421 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,480 just go down to South Hartman and take a ride hopefully to keep them off our road 422 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:07,360 trying to protect >> Thank you for working on that. 423 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:11,600 » Yep. So and I I I once we meet I do not want to address this board until I meet 424 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:15,279 with these guys here but uh we will come back with a a plan uh that you asked me 425 00:28:13,919 --> 00:28:17,440 to work on. >> Thank you. 426 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:21,679 » Okay. Yes, sir. >> All right. The next thing I want to 427 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:27,679 discuss is we're these bridges. We're getting in they've got a new the state's 428 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:32,480 got a new formula on these bridges and we're getting we're fixing to get 429 00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:37,520 into a vine with these bridges. I was going to let y'all know we uh the state 430 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:41,919 has informed us when we come back that we've got to shut down the bridge on 431 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:46,640 East Oakland. It's got to be shut down by the 20th. 432 00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:50,480 uh not ever had. It's never been on the 433 00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:54,799 bridge list. It don't even have a weight limit on it. And normally they make us 434 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:59,919 put a weight limit on it before they, you know, we have to do work to it. And 435 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:04,080 so this is all new to us. So, you know, that's one reason I've 436 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,919 kind of watched what we do with our money because I knew this was this was 437 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:12,559 going to happen. We've got bridges in the county that's been there for years. 438 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:17,520 » Is that it, Terry? Is that yours or is that Curtis? Yeah, the bridge there 439 00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:20,799 » at Mill Road at Mill. >> Yep. 440 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:24,000 » How do you get over Spring Creek? >> Drive around. 441 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,720 » So, >> I mean, you fixing to send them down 442 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:32,159 Bluebird this time. >> Bluebird. You going to send them down 443 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,520 » Copper Hill? Locus Grove and all of that. Yep. 444 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,279 » Good. >> So, you you probably going to get calls 445 00:29:35,679 --> 00:29:40,320 on it, but I mean, >> state says I got to shut it down. 446 00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:43,919 » When you got to do this? >> The 20th of January. You got signs 447 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:48,399 already out? >> No, we've got signs out warning people. 448 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:50,240 » Okay. >> So, 449 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:54,399 » if you get calls on that, we're trying to there's a backup on I40, which 450 00:29:52,640 --> 00:30:00,159 doesn't matter I know to any of our jurisdictions, but back up at coming 451 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:04,399 from Nashville getting off at 109 there. There's only one lane. So, we talked to 452 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,279 them because that's backing up now about a lot of skid marks there. So, we've 453 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:11,039 asked them to put a sign out there flashing saying be prepared to stop. 454 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,880 Talked to Jay yesterday. He said the issue is really in front of Publix 455 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,320 because when they come off of there they turn right going north to Gallatin. They 456 00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:20,240 got a red light there. They got a red light on the other side of the 457 00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:24,240 interstate. They got a red light at less. 458 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,200 And he said so they can't all get off and go that way. And he says we've got 459 00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:31,679 to find something to do in house to handle that. But I've asked him say will 460 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,640 you just put a sign up because people have been calling me saying hey you 461 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:38,480 almost run into the back of somebody because the traffic stopping right in 462 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:42,399 the middle of the interstate uh on there. So, just you can let people know 463 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,159 if y'all get calls on that too that we're asking for sign. 464 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,880 » I'm coming out of Nashville. >> I'm going eastbound. 465 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,320 » Eastbound and I'm going to get off at 109. 466 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:56,399 » Mhm. >> And that ramp just backs up one lane all 467 00:30:53,200 --> 00:31:01,279 the way to this for a while. >> Well, when are they when is and not to 468 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:05,039 get off totally off cuz it's not on the script, but when is uh when are they 469 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:11,200 going to widen that all the way from 8:40 to Sparta Pike or wherever they're 470 00:31:07,679 --> 00:31:15,919 going? switch on your design then >> it'll go right to the interchange but 471 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:20,720 not change the interchange. >> Okay. 472 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:24,720 » So that that was I just wanted y'all to be prepared. That's what's coming down 473 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:30,480 because I don't there's probably I'm afraid there's going to be more bridges 474 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:35,120 when they go to chicken. So, but you know it's the state's really coming down 475 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:39,039 on these bridges and they like I said they've changed their formula. Now, I 476 00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:42,720 don't know how much you can change your formula when you're doing a bridge, but 477 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:46,720 anyway, but that's what they're telling us. 478 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,399 » In other words, I got a question about the formula. How can they come in on us 479 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:54,480 and say all of a sudden we got to start doing 480 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:58,000 » that? Don't seem seem >> I could do 481 00:31:55,039 --> 00:32:00,320 » financially feasible. That's what I say. But 482 00:31:58,159 --> 00:32:04,480 » I mean, I can see it over a five or year unless it's just rusting out or being. 483 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,080 » Well, I mean, you know, usually when they make us start putting a weight 484 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:12,559 limit on it, we know we need to go check it and see what we got to do to fix it 485 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:16,399 or update it or whatever. >> See, this has never had a weight limit 486 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:21,360 or nothing on it. I mean, this is it ain't even been on the radar. The last 487 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:27,600 bridge list we got back in 22, it said fair to good. 488 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:32,000 now is seeing us we go shows now. >> I went to Michael Sweden's the other day 489 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:36,080 and I wouldn't go across it. Just don't like that bridge at all. 490 00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:40,559 » It's that bridge the beans are small but there's been a 491 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:45,360 whole lot of stuff hauled across. >> Yeah. I just I was like I know 492 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,799 » I mean we've hauled across I've hauled across it several several times. 493 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:53,919 » Right. But I mean, you know, that's the state's 494 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,000 got their new formula. >> Okay. 495 00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:01,279 » So, but on uh the Stewart Fair Bridge, 496 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:05,360 I'm going to ask y'all for a budget amendment. We'll get a bud budget 497 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:10,200 amendment on it to get it taken care of. Y'all should have a budget amendment in 498 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,200 your packet. 499 00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:19,039 So, what is this, Steve? Well, the Stewart spray breed. Yeah, but it's a 500 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,480 » fun sub. 501 00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:22,480 » Huh? >> Is that the big one? 502 00:33:21,679 --> 00:33:25,279 » Subscribe. Yeah. >> And you going to get 93% back. 503 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:29,360 » 98. >> 98. 504 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:33,200 » Yeah. 982 is what they always do. Especially state. It's a state aid. So 505 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,159 » motion to approve. >> Second. 506 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,519 » Second. >> Any other discussion? 507 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:43,360 » All in favor say I. I. >> Okay. Uh the next thing I got uh the 508 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:50,480 mayor and I talked with a gentleman on the Smith Hollow Road 509 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:56,720 and he is wanting the uh speed limit lowered. It's 30 mph 510 00:33:53,760 --> 00:34:03,200 now. And what he is wanting lowered is a mile and 9/10. 511 00:34:00,159 --> 00:34:05,760 And I think my opinion I think there's nothing wrong with the speed limit 512 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,599 there. There's only six houses on the whole road. 513 00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:12,639 So I'm >> three road. 514 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:14,879 » Yeah. It's off stageville, isn't it? >> Yeah. 515 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:17,040 » Goes through Rocky Branch. >> So you're saying the individuals asking 516 00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:19,520 for this? >> Yes. 517 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:22,240 » Now we know we got a resolution that Terry put in place about signatures. 518 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,320 » That's right. >> So we need to obey that cuz I there's no 519 00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:30,720 way he's going to get into them six houses. That's what I said. 520 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,599 » But that that's the reason he want he's want to take it down to 20 which I told 521 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:40,000 him we don't do 20. >> That's a driveway. And I I I told him I 522 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:42,800 said I said I'll take it to the board. I told him the mayor knows. I told him I 523 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,320 take we'll take it to the board and see what the board says. My recommendation 524 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,720 was to leave it at 30 because 30 is plenty cuz there's only six houses on 525 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,720 the road. >> Well, to this gentleman's defense, 526 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:56,320 there's six houses on it. >> So if he if they all agree, we might 527 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,079 work with them. Right. That's the way we look at. 528 00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:01,839 » No, we're breaking our own covenant then. He said 25 signatures. Are we 529 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:06,320 going to do that? Yeah, but >> but he only has six homes. I mean, 530 00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:08,960 » if you get 100% of the homes assigned, >> he I mean, he's called We We've dealt 531 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:15,040 with him. >> We've dealt with him a year ago. So, 532 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:20,400 daughter maybe got hit or almost got hit by somebody riding her bike down through 533 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:25,839 there. I know Blake Hall drives that way home every day. He talked to me about it 534 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:29,119 as well. Um Yeah. and he called me back and that's why and I could and I thought 535 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:32,640 we did something because I knew I we met I'd met him out there a long a year ago 536 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,800 and then I couldn't remember what we did so I said hey me and Mr. Murphy go meet 537 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:40,480 with him. So, you know, he wanted it uh wanted it lowered from 30 to 25. 538 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,839 » Is it one lane? >> No. 539 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:48,480 » Oh, I mean, I can see the difference there, but I mean 20 miles an hour, 540 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:52,400 football players run 22. >> Well, I mean, we see I've got 20. It's 541 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:58,000 got the curve. It's up there where the animal farms at. Yeah. So, they get 542 00:35:55,359 --> 00:36:02,400 visitors coming in, I guess. Well, no. It's used to be where the animal farms 543 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,520 over there now, but >> but evidently Blake goes through there 544 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,119 going home. What is that? >> I don't think he goes through there 545 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:09,119 going home. >> Yeah, cuz he was going to meet with us 546 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,400 that day if you remember. >> Well, he did, but I mean surely he takes 547 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:15,680 Stacial Road. I wouldn't be going through there to take You got Stacial 548 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:19,040 Road cuz he lives on Greenville. >> He says on my way. 549 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:24,880 » So, I just I didn't know that. >> But anyway, I mean I I 550 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,119 mean, unless y'all want to go with it. I mean, 551 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:31,040 » well, the I think it is >> that resolution we had, you know, 552 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,560 » if there's a thousand homes on it, we got to get what we say 25 to 30. 553 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,440 » Okay. I see. >> And if there's six or seven homes on it, 554 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:43,839 then if four or five say Yeah. then we could look at that. But now that's 555 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,400 that's just what we put in place. >> Somebody may correct me, but is that 556 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:52,480 what we did there? >> I mean, we've already got 30 mph on I 557 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:56,240 mean, you you get a mile almost 2 miles worth of 20 mph when there ain't but 558 00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:00,480 about four homes through there in that section anyway. I mean, 559 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:04,560 » okay. >> So, I'm I'll leave that with y'all. 560 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:08,160 Whatever you think. What you say to the board 561 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:13,119 going from 30 to 25. >> Leave it. 562 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:16,640 » Got a motion to leave it. Is there a second? 563 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,920 » Cuz I'm going to let him call you when he calls me. You don't really have to do 564 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,480 anything if you just going to leave it. >> Yeah. 565 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:26,320 » Okay. Right. Okay. Yeah. So, I'm going to let him call y'all cuz he cuz he 566 00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:32,400 worried my tail out. So, >> who is it? 567 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:36,400 » It's that u Oh, the roofer. I can't even think of his name. 568 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:41,839 » I can't even. You know, he called about the 20 mph up there on the hill trying 569 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:45,440 to We went up there and put the It's the one that I think he called you 570 00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:49,200 several times. >> Okay, that's fine. Well, I guess I just 571 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:53,359 want to know bottom line, and I'm not trying to beat this, but if he if we 572 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,280 tell him if he gets everybody on the road to agree to do to 25 that you're 573 00:37:55,599 --> 00:38:00,079 fine with that, right? >> Yeah. I mean, you're just changing the 574 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,680 sign. I mean, >> on on my side, the reason I took Mr. 575 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:08,160 Murphy out there without saying it goes from 30 to 25, it don't mean a hill of 576 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:12,000 means to me. I I mean, that's what the guy wants. I mean, I mean, it's not want 577 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:17,040 to bother nobody. Yeah, I I understand what you're saying, 578 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:19,839 but 25 25 is reasonable, but >> it's we're going to 20. How many rules 579 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,920 we got? >> No, no, I'm going to 25. I told 580 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:29,680 » you said 20. >> I told you we wasn't going to 20. I said 581 00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:34,079 we do. 25 we go. 25 is part. >> I take it to 25. I'll make a motion we 582 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:37,440 go to 25. Oh, that's your I'm sorry. That's yours, isn't it? 583 00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:40,320 » Yeah. Whatever Terry wants to do. >> I said leave it alone. 584 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,880 » All right. All right. Next. 585 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:49,119 » Uh, so we got the budget a minute. Okay. 586 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,880 Only other things I've got, we're we're doing our general maintenance, doing 587 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:56,800 patch work, slow moss. We're running in doing some equipment work on our 588 00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:01,440 equipment. And other than that, that's that's all I've got. 589 00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:04,000 » Anything else, Mr. Murphy? >> That's it. Motion to approve. 590 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:09,040 » Second. >> All in favor say I. I. 591 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:15,839 » Mayor. Mayor, I don't have anything, but I need to confirm we did the road list 592 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:19,280 last month of November because it's supposed to be approved by the county 593 00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:22,640 court in January. >> We just done today. Just right here. 594 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,200 » I think we did before you walked in. >> Yeah. 595 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:28,560 » Well, good. >> Yeah. We just So, it be in the pack. 596 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,119 That's all I'm >> Yeah. Usually, you're here early, but 597 00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:34,800 you was a little late today. >> Well, the mayor left me with somebody 598 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:38,079 that I had to talk to while he slipped out. 599 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:42,079 He's setting me up. >> Motion to adjourn. 600 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,640 » Any old business? Any new business?