But.
All right I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United states of America and to the Republic
for which it stands.
One nation under God.
Indivisible.
With liberty and justice for all.
Thank you.
Congratulation, guys Roll call, please.
Commissioner rocky here.
Commissioner Dami you hear Commissioner Rowley
Hear Vice Mayor Caputo here.
Mayor Newton, you're addressing changes of regulations
for tonight's meeting.
Anyone hearing?
None.
I'll move on All right I don't know if anybody knows,
but this week is police week.
National police Week, and i had the honor last week in the city
to be at Broward College for Public safety,
where all the police officers are really become police people,
become police officers in our county.
When you're going to school here and we were the host city
this year where the police memorial for Broward County
it was an honor to give the speech guest speaker for that.
The only tough thing was it was it was to remember the 105 83
officers that have died in Broward County and seven
of the police dogs that have died
in Broward County since the inception of Broward County.
And i just thought that was an awful lot of I
know we've been around a while, but just
seems to be like a lot of men and women
that have been killed in the line of duty
and in just Broward county.
So it was an honor to do that.
Chief you and your team did a great job on the color guard
and a lot of the things they did for that event.
There.
So thank you very much for that Whereas there are more than
800,000 law enforcement officers serving in communities across
the United States, including a dedicated professionals
of the Wilton Manors Police Department who are passionately
committed to serving our community Whereas,
despite their staffs challenges, there were a total of nine
assaults against Wilton Manors officers in 2023,
five assaults in 2024, representing an approximate 42%
decrease over a two year period, compared to 12
assaults reported in 2001.
Since the first recorded death in 1786 more than 24,067
law enforcement officers.
Throughout u.S. history have made the ultimate sacrifice
and have been killed in the line of duty The names of the Two
$24,400 well fallen officer engraved on the walls
of the National law Enforcement Officer Memorial in Washington,
D.C. Whereas in 2025, the names of 345 officers who were killed
in line of duty were added to the National law Enforcement
and Memorial that includes 148 officers
killed in 2024, as well as 197 officers
killed in previous years.
Whereas Broward County Law Enforcement Memorial
was held on May two seven, 2025, and hosted by Wilt Manors
police Department.
Whereas service and sacrifice of all officers,
line of duty fatalities were be honored during the national law
enforcement officer Memorial Fund 37 Candlelight
vigil Village Vigil.
Vigil Sorry.
On the evening of May 13.
And.
Whereas, the annual candlelight vigil is part of the National
Police Week, which will be observed beginning on Sunday,
May 11th through Saturday may 17th.
Whereas May 15th is designated as peace officers,
Memorial Day in honor of all fallen officers,
their family is and U.S. flag should
be flown at half staff in honor of the National Police Week.
And to recognize willimantic Police Department officers.
Our city hall police station will be eliminated in blue.
Now, therefore be played by the city.
What matters the week of May 11th through the 1725 designated
National police Week.
Assistant Chief, thank you for all you do and your officers
for a city will manners.
Thank you sir.
But I see you.
Come up to I think you guys probably
did all the right All right.
Presentations City manager.
Thank you.
You.
I'm going to ask Director Sanchez to introduce this item.
Please good evening, DIA Sanchez, Human Resources
director for nearly Three years, Circuit
has operated within our city limits,
providing a fun mode of transportation
for what manners residents and visitors They're low
cost eco friendly rides have been embraced by the community,
offering a safe means of navigating our island
city at the request of the city commission,
we have Jason bagley, partner and VP of Strategic Growth
here to give a brief presentation on circuits
2020 for operational and rider data.
Jason and I are also available.
Any questions the Commission may have following the presentation
Jason okay All right.
Thank you.
Do good evening Mayor, Vice, Mayor and Commissioners.
Jason Bagley, partner with Circuit
here to give an update for our 2024 results for our program
here in the city, Wilton Manors starting with a quick overview.
Our service coverage area is all city limits are schedule is here
Posted Monday through Tuesday 11 a.m. to nine,
Wednesday to Saturday, noon to 11 p.m.
Sunday 11 to 11.
We have refined these hours a little bit over the three years,
but I think we've landed on the most impactful
to the community we have four vehicles in the fleet.
There's two of the gem neighborhood electric vehicles
that you see on the photo We recently added an eV sedan
and then we also have an aDA gem gem that operates on standby
until it's requested.
Services $2 per rider The vehicle that we added in March,
there was some issues where we couldn't bring
the gems to a couple streets.
I think it was northeast and northwest 30th caught.
It would involve the drivers having
to go out on Oakland Park Boulevard
to access those streets.
So we saw an opportunity for opportunity
to replace one of the gems with this eV
sedan that can go anywhere.
It has a much greater battery range.
So we can charge at once.
And it and it gets through an entire day with plenty
of mileage to spare.
It can be driven on those major roads,
which means more direct routes.
And we were able to finally cover those two those streets
that we weren't able to access before.
I will note that this also opens up the opportunity.
We've spoken with the city over the years
about potentially trying to connect to the beach.
So by having a vehicle that can go on Oakland Park Boulevard
or A-1, A, we have the potential if you wanted to open up
that opportunity for two residents,
whether it be on certain days or certain hours,
but we'll just leave it out there
that that is an option we could create
a higher rate to go to the beach, a higher fare
to the rider.
We also updated we have a new data portal that we share
with Doe which gives them real time access to go in and look
at the data and generate reports around you know,
certain days or times of the day.
And it also gives quick insights of how many riders per hour.
What our average wait time is This is also provided
in a monthly data report that we share but this gives continuous
access to that information And as we look at 2020
for our average, we did over 3,000 riders a month The program
has created ten local jobs.
But 35% of our rides are pools One of the most impressive
metrics I think, is the average wait time is 6 to 7 minutes,
and we've been able to maintain that long term considering it
is a fairly wide area with only Three cars on the road.
I think that's pretty impressive with the numbers that we have
able to complete as well And here's just an overall snapshot,
41,000 passengers moved in 2024.
Average driver rating, 4.9, Five out
of five stars on the App Store.
Again, average wait times Six minutes, 48 seconds.
And the average user age is 54 and Wilton Manors this is
a month by month overview showing the peak months in march
and May and just a chart of our ridership with total requires
completed trips and total passengers
a little bit more insight busiest times 5 to 7 p.m..
We've seen that consists utterly throughout this the life
of this program.
Busiest day is no surprise Friday, Saturday,
Sunday and again March and May.
Some of the busiest months, we can get really granular
with the data and see the top pick up and drop off
destinations with Heatmaps And our survey that we conducted
and some of the good results here are 93% of riders
think that circuits are a great addition to the community 80%
help it helps them drive less.
I know a lot of people are coming staying at Airbnbs
than know that they don't need to rent a car now to get around.
70% of the ride is here are local,
so it's always great to see a little bit more
on the survey results Again, 71% live in the area.
And then some of the use cases where
people have taken the service.
So, again, no big surprises here Some testimony animals
and some great photos of the partnership I'm
happy to answer any questions, any questions for anyone
So good Yeah.
Thank you.
Just a quick question.
You one of the One of the slides for you
talked about riders and then unique users.
You distinguish between the two.
What does that mean?
That's how many different people download the app
and are unique user.
So there'll be a lot of repetitive use.
You know, one person may use the service every day,
but that extrapolates out the how
many different unique accounts or
associated with this location.
OK And at any given time, how many vehicles
or actually how many vehicles are available to ours?
Typically three vehicles on the road three on the road.
But we're not.
Ada, stand by.
Is if it's requested, we'll swap out to that vehicle.
So we would swap out to that vehicle.
So three would be the max.
Yes OK.
I'm not sure if it's a question for you,
but we have five electronic vehicles stations
and I guess i just question why we have five.
If there's either 3 or 4 vehicles,
but may not be a question for you going to jump We have five.
So that we could charge all three vehicles
as well as the ADA vehicle.
There are times that some of those charging stations
can be faulty so that provides always access
to all vehicles to charge.
We also have an employee charging program
that those Chargers are available to.
OK Thank.
Thank you.
Are all of the electronic vehicles stations
are they fast chargers Are they all charging at the same rate?
I remember at one point, they were not Yeah,
Everything now is a level two fast charger.
OK Yeah.
All right.
Thank you, sir But yeah, thank you for the presentation.
So I know you had some key takeaways on there.
Yep.
And how do you use those key takeaways
to turn into useful insights or improve efficiencies
And you mentioned something about possibly changing times.
Yeah.
I mean that's been the evolution over the three years.
I think we've done a lot of that.
We start collecting data and then we can
refine the approach from there.
We have done that with service hours,
the zone is another one that's usually changed,
but You all have orders of a of an island.
So that was an easy One.
We've always covered the entire city limits,
but Yeah, just looking at these insights
there's trends that we've seen year over year now that we've
been here this long, but we work closely with Deo and Nick
and talk about any kind of changes
that we might want to make.
I don't think there's any been anything huge
over the last couple of months, but it's all showing in the data
and can be evaluated and something that we're looking to
shows obviously definitely from 5 to 7.
But later on as well.
Can you explain to the residents why you don't go past 11:00 We
have as a company, we typically don't run
later than midnight so we could be
doing that here if you'd like.
That's just a and it's something we may want to consider.
I think we'll get started.
The program, we were told at least I was told I
don't know about anybody else.
So it's circuit doesn't operate after 11.
Yeah, we have I think since then, we
have added some locations where we may want
to consider right that 11 a.m.
time doesn't really seem to be overly overly.
It's not a really popular.
You could also keep the hours and just
have one car in the morning and have,
you know, save those hours for later to go to extend beyond 11.
You know what I'm saying?
Just shift hours around.
Related to that you're saying it's 11:00 use,
but often it stops at 11.
So that would be when something dropped off after.
And I'm saying it's not really used 11 in the morning,
just later on in the evening.
Yeah One thing that I'd like just
to see the Times to that conversation in particular
is obviously, right now we see like, you know that 910,
it starts to trail off.
But I would imagine if you were to filter this data down to just
Friday and Saturday as a percentage
those are much higher, right?
So if we're talking about going to midnight
we would do that maybe on a Friday or Saturday.
Not not not.
Yeah.
And that's typically what it would be.
It's just Friday Saturday night We can extend those hours.
I think that's something I'd like to see
us look at doing potentially.
So we have less people potentially drinking and driving
in during our busiest times and just from some personal use
with the app I've noticed it could be a little glitchy
and right it pops up and it shows it's three minutes away.
Order it.
And then all of a sudden, it's all
the way on the other side of the city, and it's 20 minutes away.
And that's all you end up canceling.
Have you worked on.
I brought this up in the past.
We are, Yeah.
I mean, we've had about 40 app updates
in the last year and a half, so it's constantly being worked on.
We are aware of that.
You know we've heard it.
And we are addressing it.
So we're working with our development team
to find any of those updates.
That's going to improve that.
You know the service to everybody.
Perfect Thank you.
I like the program.
Thank you.
It's very good program.
Thank you.
You.
Just one question I have is I know
you talked about the car can be used all day long Yeah,
but the carts I know in the past maybe some of the Chargers,
some of the batteries are bad.
Yeah, it's that part is unacceptable
because, you know, we have drivers
that are there ready to go, and they come in, they're dead.
Yeah, they can't use them.
And then there's one less.
That's on the road that we're paying for.
Make sure that they're theirs I want
to make sure we clean that up.
I mean can you get stronger batteries for that?
I think well, I think we've gotten to a much better spot
with the new chartstring that's out there.
That's, I think that's remedied pretty much everything.
And we have Bob McClure, our location manager here
who knows better than anybody.
But I think those are our issues.
Maybe six months ago, but the charging
has not been an issue since OK.
I just to make sure I know charging
as much as the batteries, I know you can buy better batteries
than others and they last longer and get charged faster
and all that is from make sure that we keep up on that.
Because I know in the past i've I've
gone to talk to the drivers.
Yeah.
For the last couple of years and they love being there
and all this.
There's sometimes they get there and the charger in charge
or the battery was bad and it's been a couple of days We really
need to have if we supposed to have three cars on there
that we should have three cards Four completely
understand and agree.
Then just one other comment.
So i don't know how it is for other cities
specifically for our city.
What's the policy If someone like
is just standing on Wilton Drive and the carts going by empty
can they flag it down?
That's what we would typically allow that, yes
And that's an opportunity to give
somebody the QR code to download the app for their next trip.
So absolutely unless you didn't want us to do that, we would
always take a walk up personally where I was told no order it
from the app and literally the guy was waiting, sitting there
for ride Well, the only thing that comes up there to me as
well, so maybe it's just an educational Yeah, well, it's
also a fare collection thing is that we're not in that instance,
we would not take cash.
Yeah.
But again i would always lean towards the let's
get somebody using the service.
And then next time they're going to use the app, right?
So I think as a as a way to, you know, bills are $2 per rider.
Does that go to the city Does that does that get split?
That's I think that's a split.
But after the credit card processing fees,
I think we had to add our fare guarantee.
I can get that from the city.
Yeah.
OK, good.
You have a credit card.
I'm sorry, but can you.
Can't you have a credit card swipe or a.
We've done it.
It's just a lot for the drivers to to handle a swipe card
or where working on some tap technology
Now we're looking at speaking with a couple of companies
that might do that.
OK But we've also done things where
the rider could just scan a QR code on the car
and make the payment.
So the driver.
So we have a couple of things like that.
We're testing it, right?
Right.
It's always getting new or new.
Yeah.
I think that when we launched the program part of it was you
could just flag it down, and we didn't
really care about the fee.
Yeah.
So at the beginning, yeah, because we
get to see how well it's right.
Yeah.
I'm just saying right now.
I love the service.
I think it's great I have a couple of questions.
Some of these if these are contractual or pass kind of what
you can speak to, we I can certainly handle the city
manager separately, but when it comes to the sedan,
it sounds like that potentially is a more effective vehicle
in terms of its availability.
The time to charge etc. is the total cost
of ownership significantly more for that
than it's a little bit more.
It's about 10% more so but it's 10% more on the streets A kid?
Yeah, it could be for sure in the contract.
Who bears the cost of putting in a vehicle?
Is that do we ultimately bear that cost?
It's our choice.
Or is that something you decide?
Well, the contract was for the vehicles
that we started with for those GM vehicles.
I don't think at the time we were even doing other vehicles
But we're happy to do an amendment
If you're thinking of a okay, so, you know,
maybe you could speak to this.
OK I think to answer the question of the current fleet,
I negotiate that with circuit.
There is no additional cost to the city for that sedan
that we have right now.
So we are continuing to pay the same amount
as when we had the three GM vehicles But at some point,
there's the contract expires will renew it.
That may change because the vehicle wasn't available.
That is correct.
OK Are there any disadvantages to using the sedan I think
there's a couple of things.
It's not as many seats.
It's not as convenient where everybody gets
their own door in the GM car.
It doesn't stand out as much.
Yeah branding is it's tougher to sell advertising on a sedan
than it is on the GM car So that's
why I think most of our location ins
are doing mixed fleets now So you have a couple of each.
And we can on the back end of our app we can create sub zones
and tether specific vehicles to a specific zone where we know
we don't want the GM to go to the beach,
for example It could do just, you know wealth and drive area
There's a lot of flexibility in the technology to set
that up however you want.
So maybe worth looking at a second sedan and keep one.
GM But there's a lot of things we can do.
And I would say beyond that First car
that we replace there would be an increased cost
to swap out other person.
So right now.
You've got this wait time of 6 or 7 minutes.
That does not include trips that you canceled because the wait
time is too long, obviously.
Right?
Because you couldn't average in a time.
If that the wait didn't happen Yeah
Do you have stats on the number of I I love this.
I love the service.
But there's during peak times more than a few times
i've canceled because it was going to be like 20
minutes or something like that.
And that's what.
Excuse the number down.
No I totally understand.
And it's all fair That's what we're
going to see on some of those five to seven o'clock
hours on a Friday or Saturday.
But you have the data on how many rides you cancel.
We do is it something you can tell us now,
or is that not available?
I mean, it's in we can see on one of these stat lines here,
it shows me say right here, right.
So you see the canceled is basically the difference
between the completed and the total request So the difference
between the light green line and the orange
Right, which looks like it's a significant number, Right.
So it's a transmitter at all canceled.
It's canceled.
Miss canceled by the rider canceled by the driver.
So it's everything rolled up Okay.
We know that was canceled by the driver.
Really?
I mean, that shouldn't.
Yeah, that's happening.
Right.
So canceled by the person.
Yeah, we all know my math up here is not the best.
But looking at the peak from 3900 to 2700, that's Yeah,
it's like 1,200 roughly, which is almost 40% of the things got
canceled, presumably in many cases, because of a long
wait time Yeah.
Is how does our cancellation rate compare to other cities
You guys It's I think it's right on track
with the other cities in this area.
And quite honestly, a lot of this
is a function of just supply and demand that we have
so many requests out of these peak times
that we should have six cars out there where
within the constraints of I realize we're
the ones setting the budget for how many vehicles are out there.
So I'm not holding you back more, but there's other level.
There's other levers to you could increase the cost
on those this Friday Saturday night could be $4
or eight instead of $2.
Right and bring in another car.
Yeah Or bring in another car for certain days.
Yeah.
Yeah So maybe, look, we could potentially
look at doing something like that
or if the vehicle is the reason is that one's
still see that can be out.
I mean, we can schedule hours during that.
But it's missing two seats for the position
but still then has go forward.
Yeah, I mean, it's the driver has asked for two basically.
Yeah Yeah.
As effective as the sedan.
Oh, it's just one seat.
It's just on.
There is a new, a new requirement that there's
only one other seat.
So.
So it only seats one person essentially.
But yeah.
OK.
What's that?
Clarify it within the rideshare industry
is there a stat like Uber and left
or on a 10% cancellation rate after imagine
it's a fraction of this I'm sure it's a fraction of this.
OK so many more of them out there.
And and their rates are a lot higher.
Yeah.
The they balance everything out with their fares.
Yeah.
Well, it's interesting because we have the Uber ride
discount code on the weekends.
So it's cheaper for, for me often to use the discount
code and Uber than it is to me.
Take care.
Circuit when it's to people.
Yeah but, but that's, again that's not, that's not,
that's not if you're on, you know, the fort lot of Dallas
uses circuit right.
Is there any consideration for being able to partner.
So there's like a transfer over to get people
to the beach you know we sort of meet our zones, meet together.
Yeah.
I think that I think that's absolutely
a discussion to be had.
And we have a great relationship with the city.
We're already crossing I mean, we're
doing everything from galt Mile Lauderdale by the sea
so we're going pretty far down.
There is a little bit of a gap south of Oakland Park Boulevard
but we're covering most of it.
And I think that there'd be open to that discussion.
And it's an easy transfer even going from here,
say, to like Los all us right or something like that.
Potentially we could if they meet that instance,
I would definitely recommend.
OK Vans or SUVs.
We're doing all those now.
OK.
Because I think I think I think if our cancellation
rates so high.
It is to have a vehicle be gone to go
to the beach to take it out of commission for 15,
20 minutes is too much.
But if there's a partnership with Fort Lauderdale, you know,
their businesses are benefiting or
the beach is benefiting, that may
be something we're considering.
I would just note, I don't think the beach
trips would be impact that much because during the day.
We're not that busy We get busy at night
and that car would be onto necessarily going
to the beach at night or I didn't
envision it doing that more for daytime beach trips.
It's interesting.
But anyway, the and i probably I've
just had a One off random experience,
but a lot of times when i've gone to use it,
which were not peak hours, you know I guess.
Yeah five, maybe five minutes to get in there, you know.
But I think that that's still a beach time, at least
coming back from the beach.
But you know, so it's something to look into Lastly, we have
a basically like a revenue share type contract radio
and that includes everything, including
the wrapping of vehicle is digital that or the advertising,
etc.
How much in digital this.
Maybe I should question for him.
How much in digital ads have you run in your app next?
Did not notice visual ads.
Not much Yeah Yeah your the wrapping I think is a fair price
your rate for those digital ads.
I got it's absolutely ludicrous.
It's not at all competitive in the market at all.
It's like wildly gone you know.
But i think that's a real opportunity, you know,
to look at that.
I'll, I'll speak I'll win on that one.
Thanks for the feedback I kind of love it.
Think it's great.
It's really an awesome addition.
Thank you.
And I'm happy to set up a meeting with the city
of Fort Lauderdale just to note their service right now is free.
We're trying to get them to turn off around,
so maybe this would be a good opportunity
to make some connections there.
But thank you so much I think everybody in the city
uses circuit, really enjoys it.
I think all of us here have used it to go somewhere in the city.
So keep up the good work Thank you so much.
Thank you, dear.
You too All right.
One of the things I want to say before coming to the public
not last Sunday was Navy Week.
And Cathy from overseas cafe on Oakland Park.
She's a well-mannered She got together with me.
And we with the city manager.
And we got the Hague and Park here
and we served Hundreds sailors for dinner a week Sunday.
And after that, Nora and I went to 25 sailors
and went down the drive and showed them
the drive and the different bars and what a what a great time
they had going down Wilton Drive and seeing
the support and the smiles and the come on in.
Let's get you a drink, you know, and let's have a shot at
and blah, blah, blah.
And by 10:00, some of the people that were
in the Navy here, they were like,
I'm a little nervous going in.
And this and that and the other By the other night.
This one big burly navy man, he comes up to me goes,
This is the best night I've ever had in my life
So the warmth and the and that what the people have,
what manners do to make life just better
here proved that that night when we
went around with those sailors and did that.
So all the bars and restaurants that asked us to come in
and gave them food and gave them drink,
I went to thank them all for what they did for our servicemen
that put on their lives, for their lives
in line to protect our country.
And I just want to make sure everybody knew that Kathy
from over E-Z cafe is the one that put that on, got
all the food donated, got all the booze donated for him,
and it was a wonderful night.
So i think everybody who got involved in it.
Thank you.
All right Comments from the public, anyone from the poet
come up and speaks, please state your name and your address.
And you have three minutes.
Hi, Jubal Singer 411 Northeast 27th Street.
Will banners I have and keeping theme tonight
with our lovely entertainer at district
and also our public safety.
I think that's what makes Wilton Manors special here.
So we designed an app.
It's called Wilton Drive It's on currently available on iPhone
and Android iD.
We're in what's called a soft launch because we're past beta
but you can download it.
We're in the process of adding content to it.
The app has local business profiles
It has nonprofit resource a feature
as well as a public safety feature
and we took the public safety program Safe Places.
And put it in.
You can hit the button, and it says to the local businesses
that are part of the program.
And it's an app for economic development and public safety,
but it's also wrapped in it has a yearly calendar of events
for the entertainment district or things that are happening
in the city this way, users will keep coming back because they're
used to they want to go to the calendar
right now we're partnering with chambers of Commerce
to upload businesses and events to pad it with content.
So we'll be officially launched in about three months.
But you can download it now and look at the safe place feature
and check it out.
But it's not official yet.
Also we are offering the city and our partnership
I met with the city manager, Leanne,
and out of that meeting we decided that we were offer
the city and our partnership like 30 free profiles
for their departments, police department
parks and recreations, etc.
In exchange.
We were hoping to work with the police department
and videotape the safe Place program
and put it in the app for on demand video
like you do college courses so that business and restaurants
can keep their employees up to date by watching the video
to keep the Safe Place program Very active and compliant,
but also the app will absorb all liability
So I know that's another issue.
Public Safety liability.
So that's why I gave the city manager City Attorney,
you have a copy of the proposal All key people have
a copy of the proposal tonight and I'm
hoping to move forward working with the city
and increase the Safe Place program,
also working with Seattle, where the city worked
with to get the program from.
And they have over 400 cities that are in this program.
So if I succeed or we succeed in what matters,
imagine what this can do for the rest of the cities
in the programs So I just wanted to share
all that with you today.
Again if you download it, please be a little forgiving.
We got a couple more months before it's actually complete.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Anyone else want to come up and speak Good evening, Adrian Folan
440, Northeast 23rd Street.
I was just reviewing the calendar.
The agenda and I'm glad to see under the unfinished business
the talk about the rezoning and the land
use It's great that I'm that we're having this conversation
because when I meet with developers,
I always have to talk about the land
use zoning and the current use zoning
or like the future land use.
And this and that and you know, I thank God Roberta and her team
are always available to like help me talk with people
on what does it mean.
And how do you manage that difference.
So I'm really happy to see that we're going to talk about this
and get them all in synchronized fashion
in the different spot areas where
we have this like ambiguity.
Thank you.
Thank you Robert.
Mr. Robert, had they called Angels National catholic Church
at 1436 Northeast 26th Avenue, What matters a month ago
November My parish is registered in Ward,
something we talked about prepared for However,
we couldn't prepare for what happened
the rest of the meeting.
A Sunday night and think leads me
to Sunday night's a person i see a judge the morning, we wind up.
Thanks to the kindness of officer Steven and Julio
that person of a person was taken to fiancee
so their personal belongings should be taken
and i have to go to the county jail, lock up.
The officer was very kind and made
the ride to the jail pleasant and not
a frightening experience.
So thank you, Chief especially Officer steve and Angela.
Go team care and compassion in the service of what matters
Thank you Anyone else like to speak
Good evening Mike Sense of our 1425 northeast 23rd Street.
I too.
By the way, that sounds like a great app That dude mentioned.
I too to was going to address item 11 be the rezoning as did
my colleague I actually live in that zone middle river plaza i
live on northeast 23rd between where
the metropolitan is and 15 while you know
my home is an r d ten zone.
It's actually land use tosee you know,
I think it's good that the commission go
through the various subdivisions of the city
and try to make sense The patchwork
and the mismatching of zoning with land use.
Appreciate it.
Makes sense of it, especially for developers.
And we're very keen on trying to get development
moving for our tax base.
So where i live in that little section,
I would say it's 90% duplexes.
I can think of maybe six single family homes
listed as a single family home.
But I think every home on my block and including a duplex
townhomes, I think on 24th there's a couple of single
family homes, but not many.
So changing it to Tosa East would make sense.
Also brings in column Sachi and the piece of property
that the city owns There and we give the city
more options for that property.
So i'm in favor of this I would like to hear
future discussion on this.
And I also think other areas of city should be examined for,
you know making more sense of what
seems to be somewhat of an arc you know,
system of zoning and land use.
Thank you Thank you.
Anyone else like to speak I see none.
Not close to public hearing reports from boards Introduction
and update by Parks and Recreation Board.
I think, John, you're the leader of the board Come on up.
Former Mayor Bill mears.
Thank you.
Mayor John Fiore I share the Parks
Rec Recreation Advisory board.
I'm very honored to do it to assist our outstanding Parks
and Rec staff to have a improve and improve the quality
of our parks and to the services that we provide
to our residents and guests.
And they do a great job.
This last year, we had a number of accomplishments.
I'd like to go over quickly with you.
We reviewed and approved the co-sponsorship,
including events like the plays of Walton our son
serve and legacy builders.
We reviewed and make recommendations for the approval
of the park name change from Island City Park Reserve
to Stafford Park reviewed and made individual recommendations
regarding the legal services fee schedule review nominations
for the levers leisure Services, employee of the quarter
and selected winners for each quarter
And that was really difficult because we have
really great employees there.
We really do We also propose ideas for future events and park
design Review leaves are services updates including
incoming programs special events and ongoing improvement projects
and finally reviewed the rules and regulation for what matters
parks and recreation facilities And that is
our contribution for the year.
All right.
We're doing more of them for you next year
Thank Any questions for John Thank you for your service.
John are all your board members here This one.
This one, do do.
Oh.
Oh yeah.
Robert That's right.
Yeah.
Well, I have some specific appreciation for you
and I'll get you your three that are here.
Elena, Robert.
John, come on up Thank you, John.
This is John Thank you, Elena You.
You And think about your on your board.
You know, we started the nonprofit works
so the city can step off the board and things
like this You you Already consent
and any we hold your in one motion.
I'll make the motion there a second.
Second.
I will second it.
All right Call the first by vice mayor caputo.
Yes.
Commissioner Dominio Yes, Commissioner Rocky.
Yes.
Commissioner Rowley?
Yes.
I may renew in all right.
Ordinance First Reading Ordinance 2020 5-003.
Please read an ordinance of the City Commission of the city
of Wilton Manors, Florida Approving and authorizing
the proper city officials of the city of Wilton Manors
to execute a charging station lease agreement.
An addendum with Abco Services lLC for an Eva charging platform
at City hall, providing for a complex,
providing for severability and providing for an effective date.
Thank you.
You.
There a motion?
I'll make the motion for a second.
I will.
Second City Manager Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
This project came out of the city's goal
of providing additional electric vehicle charging stations
for our community, as well as identifying ongoing revenue
sources This ordinance authorizes a lease agreement
with each to provide electric vehicle
charging stations at the city hall and Hagan Park parking lot.
Under the agreement.
If we go with lease Eleven parking spaces in the very rear
of the lot adjacent to the volleyball courts to provide
the modern electric charging stations,
the three spots that they currently use adjacent to Walton
Drive will be converted back to public parking Under
the agreement, the city will receive
revenue per space the first year revenue is $39,600.
That will increase by 3% every year of the contract.
It's a 15 year term at the end of the 15th year,
the city will have received over 736,000
in revenue and the agreement can be extended
an additional Five years.
The question is for city manager.
Good.
Yet Thank you building.
It's our it was on to back okay yes
bad so I had a couple of questions and comments
I guess on page one eight of the package.
It's the staff report under item D,
it talks about ten additional EV charging stations.
And just for the record, I don't think that's correct
So we already have we have three currently.
We're going to 11, so I guess that's eight additional.
We have one station.
But it takes three spaces Right now, I see.
OK.
So so we are going to 11.
How many vehicle charging stations will there be ?
Good evening.
Deal.
Sanchez Human Resources Director, The plan
is to build a new chartstring station
They will take 11 spaces.
It will be ten charging stations capable of charging
ten vehicles at a time.
The 11 space will be utilized to create two ADA
accessible charging stations.
This charging station currently charges one vehicle at a time
but does take three parking spaces.
One said station is built, this will be eliminated and converted
back to regular parking.
So we are going from one charging station to ten.
That is correct.
OK.
I guess i guess my concern we're taking up 11 and park iNG spaces
and then we also have five spaces
being utilized for circuit.
It's 16 parking spaces I guess I'm just concerned about using
up so many parking spaces for charging stations You know,
it wasn't that long ago that we just paid $1 million to put 23
parking spaces on 11th Avenue.
And here we using up 16 of them to do we
know why we need to go from 1 to 10.
It just seems like a very large jump and it's a very long term.
It's a 15 year lease.
There's two reasons.
One, there is a lot of demand for electric vehicle charging
at times we have up to five vehicles
right now in looking at proposals
from different companies This will not cost the city anything,
but there is a an investment from every go.
So in order for them to be able to offer the charging stations
at no cost to the city, it does require the commitment
of the charging stations.
And for that period of time, it just
seems like a very long lease.
We actually reduced that it was a bit longer
and a higher amount, so we we asked for the 15 year option
with lower rates to cancel.
And it does reduce if we do need to cancel.
We also have a provision in there
that if we decide to redevelop this property
the city does have the option to relocate those Chargers
to another location throughout the city at our expense contract
and not pay the cancellation fee.
I understand the revenue.
We're saying is 39,600 for the first year.
Do we know what the loss to the revenue
is from the parking meter income?
Absolutely.
We used that area because it's one of the most underutilized
areas of the parking lot.
It's usually busy Friday and Saturday nights,
but not during the week We anticipated
occupying less than 25% of the year over the period
of the term of this lease.
It would be $262,000.
If we assume those all those parking spaces
utilize at 25% of the time.
I'm sorry, that's over the term of the lease.
And what would the revenue be Over the terminal
So that would be the loss of parking.
If we use it strictly for parking and not charging.
So 262,000 is the loss and the total
revenue 700 and something The 15 year,
it would be over 700, 700,000.
OK So it's like a $500,000 increase?
Yes.
And would this where would this revenue
go in the budget It would go to the general fund
because the parking of the property itself
is owned by the general fund.
So it would go back to the general fund
I would expect it to go to the parking and mobility fund.
That's where the revenue currently is going Right.
For the 260,000 currently goes to the parking and mobility.
That's the potential that we could be losing it.
I'm not saying that that's what we're bringing in right now.
That's the potential.
If it were utilized at 25% of the time.
Right.
But anyway revenue that's brought in from parking
would go to the transportation and mobility and parking.
Yes So you're saying this would not go there.
So it would go to the general fund?
Yes, sir OK.
We could split it, too.
I mean, what why would it go to the general fund?
It's a it's a lease.
The essentially paying to lease the space.
We could transfer that.
We could make it the payment transfer back to the parking
fund or something.
I mean, that's something a commission would decide, right?
Yes Yeah, that's just our recommendation.
It's a commission decision.
It's a policy decision of how the revenue is allocated.
But we would recommend general fund
because it's a lease of the space in line
with just in line with that, the spot that Ethan rents,
Where does that go to leave?
That is if that's a lease, that's parking.
But they're leasing a parking spot.
Why would that be different I'm just throwing it out there.
I'm not committed one way or another.
I just think that's for consistency purposes Yeah.
Yeah.
And we don't it's not like, you know
so we're saying because we own this,
that we're getting the lease payment.
But we don't get a payment for those other spaces that
are in the parking program.
Right?
So it's, it's really one doesn't lease from the general fund.
So you you're correct.
The parking fund is not least the space from the general fund.
OK.
It ultimately, it's a commission decision.
As I say, we can put it where we want to put it.
So we.
Okay, there's something I wanted to bring back
where the money's going to go.
If it all going to go to parking or is going to be split
or whatever it might be that has to be decided tonight
You know, for me, if I was going to approve something like this,
I would want to, frankly know that it
was going to go to the parking.
I think it's sort of unfair to the residents to take that away.
It's like a loss in revenue to parking, which, you know,
is supposed to pay for more parking
or for certain underwrite circuit so we could
get another circuit vehicle or something
like that That is for me.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Just for what I agree to is I agree to a point.
Part of it would be whatever we were losing
to begin with by the parking spaces
that were being used before.
Yes, that money should go to the parking and the rest.
That would be something this commission could decide,
because I don't think the whole 700,000 should go
to two parking when the way it's set up now,
it's not going there.
It would never get that much amount anyway.
So I maybe give a little more to parking fund,
but I think some very general funding.
Listen, our taxes are going to are rising this year,
we're not going to be as good as we were last year.
You know, prices of housing has gone down.
So that's going to change things.
So there's a lot of factors in here
that I'm not going to say it's only going to go to one spot
right now.
We've got to make sure we're what we need the money for.
That's on.
Yes.
And but in fairness, we just we raise the parking rates.
Right.
To make to make sure that the parking fund was solving
cover all the expenses.
So you know it's 2 2 it's one thing to say we're going to go
to the general fund because we don't you
know, we don't on taxes, raise.
We need the revenue.
But it's another to do that.
And then potentially at some point,
the future raise parking rates again,
when we could have made it whole by just
putting this money there.
Again, that's a hypothetical.
No one's suggesting a raise for the parking here,
but magic question you said that there's you know,
there are going to be more over here.
Now.
So what do we find out in a year or six months
that really we're only using six of them?
We really don't need all ten.
They're not being used, you know I mean, you know,
by a percentage of all of them, Is there anything
in the contract that states that they would take some out
if they're not being used in, then
there's not because of the cost involved
in building them to begin with.
And even if they're not utilized,
they do have an obligation to pay rent to the city,
whether they're being used or not.
So we will be receiving that revenue, whether they're
being used or not.
OK But, you know so these spots are in addition
to the circuit spots?
That is correct And is there a way that since we
control the circuit.
Right.
The circuit doesn't rent those spots Correct.
We control the spots.
Is there a way we could work it out where
the circuit could use the ten spots that
are going to be put in there?
So we don't need to take up as many parking spots?
Have we explored that Well, if then it would make that parking,
that spot unavailable for someone that's there to charge
if they use those spaces.
But they're fast chargers, right?
And I don't know, circuit people aren't here anymore.
I don't know if they're the vehicles
like allow for fast charging.
So some of them don't the gym vehicles
these Chargers would not be able to be
charge on those fast chargers.
Their killer would be able to.
But not.
So then.
Not a possibility to try to limit the amount of spots
by doing that.
Okay.
And the amount of the electric that's being used
gets charged to the company, correct?
Correct.
And then they're just leasing the parking spot, Correct.
They pay all the cost.
They put it in separate meters.
So whoever, however they figure that out they
will work with that and have a scenario
way for our residents to get like a cheaper
rate than nonresidents.
Not currently.
That is One thing that we're exploring different options
going forward with.
If you go on different programs that they are looking into,
they do not currently exist.
OK.
That would be a good offering for our residents
Then we're taking up more parking spots are.
And hopefully that satisfy some people.
Okay great One one of the question
I understand that the Chargers is not
compatible with all vehicles.
Do we do we understand what vehicles it's not compatible
with you chair those and what percentage of the market
is that?
Because I think we all.
I don't think any of us think that all 11, 10 or 10
spots would be filled all the time.
But I recognize we have to go to that number
to make it make sense to put in the infrastructure.
If I may, I'll ask Matt from Evie.
Go.
Who's here to explain the details of the Chargers
name and address, please.
Matthew Collins to 7 or 9 fourths Club Drive.
Plant City Good evening, Mayor.
Vice Mayor.
Commissioners I'm a regional director for Go.
So our Chargers are what's called car us.
So we kind of do everybody but Tesla.
So GM, Ford, everybody.
Tesla just does the one the four cars we have.
And that's it We'll do everybody else.
Now we do are going to plan to roll out nax in the future
but we would probably test it and say, hey, guys.
Let's look at the city.
Are you guys filling up those ten Chargers,
which we think we will because this is going
to be the biggest site really from Fort
Lauderdale to Palm Beach.
I looked at the maps and there's nothing like this out there.
Oh so you guys are gonna be the biggest one.
We think it will be filled, or at least probably 70%
for Uber drivers and everybody else in the city.
Cars because of city cars and things like that.
So.
So you guys are obviously advertising this on on networks
of where fast car Chargers.
All right.
That's how that's how you're going to attract
people to use that aren't just read
reds presence is that correct.
Correct.
So we have our app, which is if you go up
and we have plug share, we're part of that.
And so we have two apps that go about 4
million users across the US The as you mentioned,
I think that I'm sorry.
I didn't get the acronym for you said some new one is coming.
Is that something that is Tesla compatible or what's the tesla
is just nax is so North America charging standard and so
what we and everybody else does.
I get the feeling Tesla's market share is starting
to shrink a little bit.
What is their percentage of market share?
Relative to the total TV market?
It's about 70% of them there.
70% of the market.
Right.
But they already have their own network, right?
So for shoot out, 140,000 Chargers adapters
for Tesla and found out 90% of the users
are still using the cars.
Right.
So we still have about 300,000 cars joining the market
every quarter that are cars.
So we serve that whole market.
How long when someone's doing a fast charge, how long are they
sit here for?
About 20, 25 minutes.
OK Because we're doing 350.
So the ones you have out there are about 50kW.
We're doing 350.
This is a wild question.
I'm sure you don't have it.
Butts in time for them to go get something.
Well, that's actually the masking.
That was my wild question is, do you
have any stats about the percentage of like,
you know, what people do during that, you know, do they do.
They go and walk to a nearby restaurant or just
so we do we think that it brings and I guess on your deck
if you guys want us to in industry
we think it brings about a 20% increase
that a local like market kind of.
So if it's like a restaurant or and I walked around
to see what we have a lot of good restaurants
right here the charging walk over to they're going
for a nonalcoholic cocktail OK so so you know, in my mind,
when we were first talking about this,
I was thinking of it in terms of our residents
who just happened to know it's there.
But it's you're doing your model based on much larger stats
about the availability of these in the area where
exactly in the parking lot with these video
these will be in the corner close
to the entrance to the volleyball court.
It will form an L where circuit is currently right now,
as well as where we have the employee apartment
parking only facing 21st court.
OK And this may also be a ridiculous question
I think do this one.
Do you do is the you know I know we have
that other kind of mini lot that's over
in the corner of this property.
There's and I don't remember the topography.
Is there any operating any place in this property
to create some additional spots, you know,
for the spots that we're losing from some of this revenue
or no we have this slot is pretty much
developed to its maximum use.
So there's really no opportunity other than to reap introduce
the three spaces that we're losing to the one charger
right now just to minimize the number of parking spaces
that we're losing If the circuit needed
to expand because we wanted to add additional circuit.
But there would be room We do have right now five spaces
that we utilize and there are three vehicles there.
So we do have the ability to add up to two more vehicles, four
circuit without having to expand So the space is there,
but we do have the ability in the area
that we're moving them to, which is to the other side of the gas
pump.
And i would imagine based on what you said, that there would
be more people coming from surrounding areas I would
imagine it's not going to impact traffic on Wilton Drive,
correct You mean more traffic?
Correct They'll be there for a short period of time.
So I don't think it will increase traffic
on Wilton Drive Oh, okay.
Perfect And yeah, so in addition to the hard dollars
we're getting there may be soft dollars in terms of people
driving through, stopping at public,
stopping at a sushi place and things like that.
So I'm supportive of this.
And right now that's what they do,
because I see them using our current charger
and they park there and they go across the street for coffee
or something like that.
Walk around Any other questions Can I ask one?
We have two signature events, right?
We have Stonewall, Wicked Manners
Is it possible to to allow parking in those spots
during the two signature events when parking
is at a premium Yes, sir.
There is a provision in the contract for up to three days
for maintenance.
Anything that the city deems that we need the parking we
could restrict the Chargers after three days.
And it does affect our rent.
But and it's not it's not three consecutive days.
It's just no For after three consecutive days,
it does affect the rent.
But we could close it for up to three days at a time.
If we need it, for maintenance, for special events and things
like that.
OK You thought of it all.
Good.
All right.
That's.
That's good news.
Thank you.
We do have a deal.
Just tell me the dates.
And I would just turn them off.
Okay.
Wonderful Thank you.
All right Thank you all.
The question, Vice Mayor Caputo?
Yes Commissioner Dominio Yes, Commissioner Rocky.
Yes.
Commissioner Rowley.
Yes Mayor Newton.
Yes.
Oh, What I did have one more question.
Is it possible for me to look like I
can ask you a separate question everyone would want to know.
You said right now, but don't ask me answer right now.
But what is the timeline It's not a big deal
I don't think that tourney will get to know.
We've been working on now that it's been approved, what
is the time it's going to come back to you for second reading
because it's okay so will be at the next commission meeting
as well.
We've been working with the for months on this.
They're ready to go.
We'll be ready to go.
Appreciate it.
All depends on FPL and how fast will move.
But in speaking to six years, basically
the goal if if FPL moves is to try
to have it by Christmas time.
Perfect.
Right?
In time for season four.
Thank you All right.
Thank you.
All right.
Resolutions resolution 2025 dash 00R033.
Please read a resolution of the city commission of the city
of Wilton Manors, Florida, authorizing an amnesty program
to address current code enforcement fines, including
those creating a lean upon real property,
providing for conditions, providing for reduction amounts,
providing for a termination date, providing for conflicts,
providing for severability and providing for an effective date
Thank you.
Is there a motion I'll make the motion.
Your second.
I will second.
Good luck young gentleman Chief floor is yours.
Good evening.
Gary Blocker, Chief of Police department.
Going back to January 28th, this commission discussed a prospect
of lean amnesty program and this policy was constructed based
on your discussions and supplemental One on one feedback
staff believes that the proposed policy provides clear program
standards for applicants to understand and also staff
to process and manage and we asked
tonight that the Commission finalize a policy,
as you so desire.
So as of April 2, there are 124 leaves
attached to non home properties falling over $9.6 million
35 homes that are properties have leaves
totaling over two $9 million.
With that grand total being over $12.6 million.
If we look at this chart here, that's also in the back up.
You can see where the bulk of the non that lean amounts
reside.
36% of those amounts reside in that 100 to 199,
99 Nine category lean amounts on the homes
that are properties You see the majority lie in that 100 to 1 99
and nine category at 59% at 1.7 million.
So what we're proposing tonight is that we run a lean amnesty
program for a period of one year,
July first, starting and ending next year, June 30th.
So anybody who gets an application into us
within that time frame and the administrative fee
would be eligible for consideration.
We're proposing for the first nine months,
Homestead properties will receive a 9% reduction
and this excludes fees non homestead properties
would be reduced by 80%.
And the last three months those amounts
would reduce by 10% each.
And that payment be received within 90 calendar day time.
The city provides the applicant a notice of approval We're
talking about eligibility.
There are seven and they're all listed in the back up.
If we review a few of them, the property
that we're talking about shall be income appliance
with all of the city codes to include those associated
with that code case and that any and all
violations on the property shall be compliant prior to apply.
I know application will be processed until this happens.
Each lien shall have a minimum face value of $1,000 and they
shall not be under any order of reduction by the magistrate
or this Commission eligible leans shall not exceed
that $250,000 at the time.
The application is submitted.
And then should an application be submitted and then
found not to meet the minimum standards it
will be rejected by the city.
The following liens are and fines are not eligible
for the amnesty program leans arising for unsafe structure
board actions, orders leaves arising from the Building Safety
Inspection Program are not eligible until all requirements
of the Building Safety Inspection Program
are satisfied to include, but not limited
to the required repairs.
You see, the application fees there
and the staff time associated and also the Lean release fee.
And these fees are mere legal costs covering recovery staff
cost recovery in Broward County, a lean release fee we recommend
no appeals and the determination by the chief of police
or the Department designee to approve or reject request passed
shall become final.
So if approved, we have a communications plan.
Traditional media, digital media,
community outreach and direct outreach
to those specific properties with leans
and also our program performance metrics
We're confident that if there's no major changes
to this presentation or this proposal
tonight, that we can launch this July first.
And just as a reminder, at the last commission meeting,
we did there was a small discussion about a a income
based reduction program that is in the back
up for your review or a recall.
We would recommend that we proceed as a city in the manner
proposed That's not what I have.
And questions for the commissioner.
Thoughts?
All right, Chief.
Thank you.
The questions don't questions from you, bye.
Think you had a good night.
So.
So just to apply.
So here we go.
So I'll jump in.
Let's go.
So the only comment and I'm happy from discussions
we had to see the change to include
non homesteaded properties.
My thought in that was that we've heard from.
And we've had cases in front of us
that people that were looking to move to the city they
accumulated significant fines that they couldn't live
in because it wasn't right.
So, so them wanting to clear that become residents is great.
That intent.
What I didn't intend for that was
to become commercial properties that are not homestead.
So nonresidential you know, properties which are
then of course not Homestead.
Do you have any idea what what number
or what's the lean value of commercial properties within
that list The lean value, No.
What I will tell you is the single family
residential non homestead.
It is 54 or 54 properties, multifamily residence, all 12
properties and commercial 54 properties
and so I definitely am not in support
of doing the amnesty for true commercial properties here
And we don't have a way of knowing
if it's of distinguished.
I'm trying to think how you distinguish
on the residential side.
If it's a commercial, I guess like an apartment or something
like that, like it's is there some way to distinguish it
more than some number of units?
We can assume it's not owner occupied
or I'm just throwing it out to the rest of the commission.
If there's interest, you know, because I don't want
to say that all residential included,
if if there are some commercial.
I think we've seen like some apartment buildings
come through here that I would consider
commercial not residential.
But I think if it's owner occupied,
they almost always have a homestead protection on it,
at least for a portion.
The portion they live.
But I know it's on our occupied but I'm
saying that we'd that I'm open to that not I want
non homesteaded residential properties potentially
to qualify but not non homesteaded
you know like a commercial like, you know what like a 20.
I don't want a 20 unit.
Exactly.
To which we've seen it, we've seen that we had the one
egregious one like that, to me, is this a commercial property
But the single family, the residential that sort
of whether it's homestead or not I'd like to see that included.
I would agree.
I agree to limit it to as you said, no commercial properties
So how do we define commercial since we're not
using Homestead non Homestead?
Do we define that by nothing more than two like two units?
Or how would we define with the not traditional residential,
you know that we're looking to exclude that.
I mean, to me, if you're three units or more,
you know that's private.
You're probably not a lot of duplexes.
They live in one and they rent out the other Don't know.
I mean, to get past that, I just I think I don't know.
And for that, I think for me, I would be in support
of, you know, nothing.
3 units and up, you know qualify guys
you know because at that point your city if only
a commercial venture you know if two thirds doesn't qualify
doesn't qualify for the amnesty provided somebody
lives in one of those right.
As long as somebody lives in one in,
it's homesteaded If if it's Homestead, that's fine.
You know, that's fine But if it's not homesteaded
and it's three units or more.
It shouldn't qualify My opinion no matter what, no matter what.
Yeah Then can we just step back a second?
I believe that there is state law that we cannot foreclose
on a homestead of properties that rent we cannot foreclose
on a homestead of properties.
Correct.
And if there's a multifamily where someone's living there
and it's partially homestead it.
I guess we would not be able to do if I may look
to legal for that, correct?
Yeah, no problem.
If it's a condominium and the individual units are owned
individually those individual units can be Homestead
in a multiple unit property.
But if it's a rental community, then none of those units
are homes that okay.
But I think what he's getting at is
I know there's a few properties where there may be a main house
that the owner and he gets a partial homestead
and then the two or 3 or 4 units on the property that are being
rented out doesn't get the homestead exemption
for tax purposes on that.
But it has a homestead exemption on the piece of real estate
which I mean, imagine you can't I was
on that either I don't know.
It.
Yeah I mean.
So for me, that would I would count
that property as a homestead property and general to me.
But I think that was a clarification You were trying.
No, no.
And that's correct.
Yeah.
Thank you I guess you had given us
the amnesty program for davie, and I
believe that was six months.
I mean, for me, I feel like a year or a really long time here
And we're offering them, you know,
a deep discount for the first nine months,
just for me, it just seems very long day.
We did six months.
I, I think I would prefer to bring it down a little bit
rather than have it go out to a year.
And we're offering a deeper discount
for the first nine months.
I think for me, I would rather see that we due to a shorter
period to encourage people to do it
within the first 90 days or 120 days or something like that.
I think nine months is just a long time to give
them that maximum discount.
Couple of comments I would how anyone else feels about does
the staff have the capability if everyone
came within the first three months of I'm just asking.
Great.
Physically to be able to process.
It's it's a nice problem to have.
Yeah yes but it.
So you would, as long as we would process them first come,
first serve as long as they get their application in
and their administrative fee.
And within that time period they would be eligible whether or not
we're able to process them.
After that, you have to okay.
At first, whatever goes into effect after that.
And then a question for the city attorney,
although we can't foreclose on Homestead properties,
are we allowed to put leans on Homestead, had properties
So at the time of sale, the Lean would be paid back
The leans would be placed on the property
just like any other property.
You couldn't foreclose it and it wouldn't
attach much to the homestead building,
would not attach to the homestead
And so if the homestead owner sells us and two years from now
with the lean still be on the property that needed
to be paid back at the time of sale
yes, that happens all the time.
Yeah.
So although we may not be able to foreclose theoretically,
you still file a lean and lean.
You could sit there for 20 or 30 years
before it's ever collected on, but that's an option.
Can you go back to the percentages
of the of the decrease from me for the non homestead?
It.
I think 80% is a really, really steep discount generally
numbs homesteaded properties.
People don't live here and it's rented out.
It's owned by an LLC or it's Airbnb out Maybe
it's a second owner or second home owner.
However, if it's a second home, they generally take care of it
better than like a person that's not here full time and is an LLC
or I'm just using it to rent out So for me,
I don't want to support the decrease of 80%
just to try to clean up our books a little bit.
Doesn't make sense to me.
I don't know what everyone else thinks, so first what was
the first time that you were.
I'm to remember because I thought of that one to.
But you were talking about that passed to him.
The one year period.
Oh, So in the one year here, my concern about not having it be,
you know, is for launching this now.
Right.
You know we're launching in summertime so some number
of people that would qualify may not be present You know,
and also we just know like a town town
crier cycle is like three months potentially for that comes out.
So I mean maybe down to nine months.
If it was going to launch in the off season.
But I think Six months, frankly, people
don't hear about stuff in the city
fast enough for them to turn it around in six months.
I think, too, if i just signed a letter to the owner.
But if you're not if you're not there because you're you
live up north.
Pine and this is a second home, if you're not only here
six months out of the year you know,
usually the mailing address of the property appraiser's updated
different from the well, that.
And that's what I was going to ask i know some people
code might know that or chief you
might know that don't the second home usually
they have the address of the homestead a property
or another country or another state.
I'm sorry As a question again, please.
The address.
You have to if you have to send a notice of some kind
is usually not that address.
If they have that sort of summer or winter.
Oh, it's usually their summer home It varies.
Some are to the property owner out of state,
some are directly to that home.
So i mean, like, you know, I think my business where we have
people that go on hold because they're gone for two months
during the summer, I don't think they're
updating backpay for the two months to their address.
Yeah, but they could do mail forwarding.
So like you know, but that's just a concern.
I wouldn't want to see it go any lower than 6 or 9 months,
you know, just because I think it takes time
to for us to get the word out.
I understand on the to some of your point on the non
homestead I think you know by limiting it
to say you know residences that are you know 1 or 2 units right.
It's we're not giving big discounts
to huge commercial landlords that
are not taking advantage of it.
I'm okay with it maybe coming down a little.
But again, I think about the one gentleman who was a flight
attendant, I think for United who couldn't live in his place
because so it wasn't homesteaded yet
You know, he's he did absolutely become a resident you know,
like I want.
And I want him to come in on good terms,
not be able to get that you know,
to not say to only do it, say 50% like, you know,
I would kick him down a little, but not it not a whole time.
Are there leans current Lee on these properties
for these amounts of the linesmen already placed.
Yes, sir.
The lines were already there And I would imagine it would.
The letter state that, you know, you can
take advantage of this amnesty.
I mean, can we go ahead and fork close on the non
homestead it or.
That's what the program we're doing is the 14th.
So we don't have to.
So no, I understand.
But I would i would hope that the letter reiterates
that the this is an opportunity to clean it
up prior to foreclosure I like to see
the letter that they send out.
Yeah, but I, I guess for me, I would
like I would like it to include some type of should it should
I believe.
Do we send out a letter of didn't we recently to some
of those that were at the highest value that were
because we're so we started foreclosing now I think we've
sent out a letter with just letting them
know this was going to happen.
Yes, sir.
And it should be included again on this, to your point.
But I notice recently sent that letter out right
And I did have a question also.
This is for liens under 250,000.
There's several I just looked at them.
There's probably 7 or 8 that make up three.
And a half million dollars that are over 250,000.
What is the plan for those that are above that amount?
We are going to proceed with foreclosure action
as directed by this commission OK.
I'm good with that.
Yeah.
And those are most likely commercial properties.
I imagine.
Anyways, that wouldn't they also that wouldn't qualify.
Yeah.
Some of your have some did you take into consideration in terms
of the costs, the cost for the loans
have already been recorded.
The time and the cost to get that production off
or updated for this program?
No, sir But I thought we still are.
We're still collecting the cost.
The costs don't get reduced Is that correct?
Yeah.
Administrative fees So that still gets collected,
is there not?
Administrative fee when we end up
doing the lean that ultimately we are
therefore collecting that fee?
No matter what ?
Repeat the question.
So there's when we go through this
we charge an administrative fee as a lean gets applied.
Yes.
And that does not get discounted by this
and are still due for that full So
we're not we're not losing money on still collecting those fees.
Correct?
Yeah.
But we're still doing recording fees
for satisfaction of the claim since the liens already recorded
on the official records.
But we don't collect, we don't collect a fee to do that when
someone actually pays us on it.
Like it's built into that.
It's built into the cost of that.
I believe.
Are you asking that?
Are we are you asking all we asking for an administrative fee
to release lean?
The answer is yes There is that built into the cost that
is built into this program.
Yes, sir OK.
To release a lean.
Yes, sir.
The separate fee Yeah.
All You're good.
I'm good.
I'm We're not going to go with commercial properties.
I'm good with that.
I'm all right.
We've changed that.
There I have a concern on the Homestead properties
because we can't go to foreclosure on them.
And we've had there was one recently
where they came before us.
We had to do a lease pendants I think it was
a dependence on city manager.
The attorney.
Yes.
Was it less pendants that file when there's action that
involves a piece of property to let the public and anyone
who is interested know that there
are some legal action pending?
What impact does this program have on that or does that have
has no real impact on this?
Pendants If a bank or or some other lienholder files
for foreclosure against the property in the city has a lane
the city will get notified of that lawsuit
and will respond accordingly So that list
Pendens is filed together with action for foreclosures.
Typically in this context, we've had a couple of circumstances
just the way the timing has worked out that a bank has filed
a list pendants as part of a foreclosure action,
and that occurred right before the city filed
the lean and the way our lean production
process works that has to be approved by the city commission.
And so we've had a couple of appeals that have come
before the commission where a lean has had to be removed
because it was filed after the Lisbon
that we don't have an administrate of process
for that in our code currently right?
So typically when you file a lean under or after list
pendants, you your lean is not valid
as against that particular lawsuit
and all these things have been filed already.
Right.
Everything is on.
There's already a lien filed.
So it's not doesn't affect that correct?
Correct.
Chief, I have a question.
I think I remember reading in one of your slides
that unqualified someone would be
is if they already went to the magistrate
for a lien reduction Is that accurate?
Right.
That is accurate.
And what's the purpose behind that?
You I believe that purpose, which I got from another city
would be you've already been offered a reduction
and now you're coming back for a second reduction
of that reduced amount.
See, I look at it, it's kind of a little bit different.
I look at is the person actually took the right steps appeared
in front of the magistrate.
Maybe they don't want to spend the money
to appeal to a commission knowing the way the commission
is not really reducing them.
And so they do all the right things
And then you have other people that just, you know,
thumb their nose at the city.
They don't respond to anything.
And now there's a lean, and we're going to offer them 80%
or someone else only got 50.
I don't know if that is this really to the reduction
in front of class process ?
Both the magistrate, if they went in front of the magistrate,
it's too late.
Oh, I don't to tip magistrate and in or the and/or
the commission also you know typically
what happens is the magistrate hears the matter.
It's a hearing and they've either reduced it
or not reduced it or reduced it somewhere in between
And that person, if they're in the line for trying
to go for amnesty, they haven't paid
Because once that reduction is given,
it's typically a 90 day or less provision to pay.
And they haven't paid it.
So it goes back to the original amount
we really talking a 90 day period potentially right?
Because otherwise they would have had to pay it.
But if they didn't, it wouldn't.
It's back up to 100, but then but everybody
has gone through the magistrate at 100% point.
Right.
Because every one eventually go goes through
to get the lean filed So to me, it's and I'm even
find by the way saying the last 90 days if you got something you
can now qualify for this program for the 90 day period right
to me, it's not that it's it's we're not doing this on
is the people that been in front of us
that we've given something to They can't come back.
That's what matters to me.
So you're fine that removing the magistrate piece if they went
to the magistrate but Yeah they still come back
and they can still be part of this process for that, right?
I think that's fine.
Yeah.
And I, they have a right to go to the magistrate
and argue their case.
You know, maybe they don't feel it's valid,
but most people don't go to the magistrate Right.
And the fines just keep accruing and those are the people we're
helping rather than people that try to do,
I think right I think it's fine for me
if you went to the magistrate you know me,
I go all the time out for a second, clarify some things
All right.
So no commercial properties right?
Correct we have is three or more units
Are we able to do like more than four?
Like there's a lot of quads and i know some of them have
there's issues with them.
One builder was looking to buy one, but to redevelop it
But I know that there is outstanding leans
on them I'm thinking that there's so
many quads throughout our city.
I those are not large.
They're usually lower income housing.
But.
But are we are we reducing it?
So then get sold to a developer at a higher you know,
that's right.
And it just to clarify, by the way,
on that, more than three units, it's more than three
units or non residential.
Right.
Because any.
Right.
Just like that we're not what it was that you mean.
So in other words, an office building you
know or something like that Well commercial like commercial.
Okay so you guys want to work through three.
Well three or more area Yeah, but did you have a question?
I had a question about the lean these leans
are final, correct or no.
Are they still accumulating the ones for this program?
The vast majority are still accumulating.
They are to be in this process.
No they cannot.
They have to be in compliance, which is a consideration
for the time line.
Well, you don't want to make it too short because one
of the goals of this program is to encourage
property owners to come into compliance, and then time.
So if you make the timeline too short then those property owners
may not have time to come into compliance, which
is a large they can take some of this money
that they're not going to have to pay to fix
the properties which is what we want to do I mean,
it's not the fines as much as we want
to beautify our community by getting these pieces of property
in better shape.
So well let's be honest, if they were going to fix the property,
they would have did it two years ago
when the fines started Right?
True.
They're intentionally not right.
But.
But they cannot get this unless they do so.
Appreciate it.
Gives you an incentive to do it.
So it be cheaper for them to fix whatever it is.
And then go to this than it would be to just keep going.
And then sell a property.
I believe that kind of right.
So I think it's a great idea.
And I like the way it's set up.
Those two changes that we made is there any with lower
that 80% 75%, 75?
Are you go with that I was thinking like 50 out of 50,
50 for the non homestead again, most of them
are else's or people are that are buying houses
and Airbnb being them out.
Those seem to be the ones that most of the problems.
I don't have sympathy for those people I don't either.
We're we're trying to do something here
and that it's not just about getting them off the books,
it's about getting the properties right where
we want it to be in our city.
So and they've also followed what other cities have done,
like we have the agreement here for Derby, for example.
Do we know how successful all that was?
Would you have that information?
We don't have that information.
No, sir, absolutely.
I can i think that 80% is more than most other cities
If you look at the backup materials,
I think we're probably on the extreme end.
For me, I don't want to go any lower than 75%.
I realize maybe others.
Well, but that would be kind of the low end because
of the situations that have been in front of us
before that i've seen that that's
who I'm trying to help anymore.
I sounds like 75% of those.
It does Any other questions?
So where's that 75% for the non homestead?
Correct.
And then for the final three months, I would say 65, right?
Yeah.
Just as a matter of and duration of the program.
You're and again, do we want to keep nine months.
I I mean, for me, that's a long time I understand
our city managers point.
But a homestead a property can get up to 90% for nine months.
I just feel like that's a very long time
But I think like we just talked about what
if somebody doesn't have the money to pay their fines?
They have, but they might have enough money to fix the
but they need to be to be compliance.
Again.
And then they get that 90% off.
So they actually saving money in the long run they'll do that.
But if they don't have enough money to pay what they owe,
now it's just going to keep going on.
I'm aware of at least 111 resident who i work with.
I think there was 5 or 6 months because frankly they done
some work without a permit.
But then to go back and redo it, it
became a much bigger deal to bring
everything else to code right?
On a 5 or 6 month project, at least, Right?
Yeah.
It's listen, you got to go through the process.
You got to find some, do some of these things.
I don't mind Nine months is a long time, but same time.
OK You got to give them time to do it.
Okay?
And frankly, that the line will still be accumulating daily
through that.
Through that.
Well, until it's in compliance.
Right.
So we're going to all got to get more accurate.
It's to get more, but naturally it's
going to be a higher fine So the reductions on this big
if they opt not to take advantage of this,
are we allowed to charge interest
or interest on what interest on the outstanding balance?
No I'm not sure I understand.
If I recall Kerry as rolled making this comment,
he says, no, no.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think you discussed that before, Mary.
OK.
Because it's not a judgment Yeah, I know.
In the same sense.
Okay.
How much they take off you know, how much plantation is,
what their numbers are percentage wise.
I can't.
I mean, I have it right here.
Right.
So plantation is a 100% for both residential and commercial.
there you go Their program, rent for 181 days from 2020 22
to 2023.
Okay All right.
Any other questions or any other discussion here?
No, I'm good.
So your questions One year, the nine
months plus three months model, is that where we're going What?
What was that?
Yeah, the duration post I think it was actually
the duration as proposed.
As proposed down here.
Yeah.
All right.
Thank you.
I have everything.
Thank you.
All right Any other hearing?
No, no.
Call the question, please Yes?
Can you hear me?
Sorry Apologize.
Vice Mayor Caputo Yes, Commissioner Dami, Neo.
Yes.
Commissioner Brockie.
Yes.
Commissioner Rowley.
Yes.
Amir Newton Yes So, all right.
A commission request report in Thank you.
Mr. Mayor.
This is Follow up to an item that
was raised at a previous commission meeting.
Staff was asked to read a document out
for you outlining all of the recent requests
that the commission has made for future action items This is
separate and apart from the Strategic Initiatives report
that you adopted a few meetings ago.
The report that you requested is included in the backup
of tonight's agenda.
It's our intention to continually update that.
So a status changes or the Commission requests new items
that will be updated and provided to your regular Any
questions for the city manager No.
Okay.
We'll move on A discussion of rezoning parcels generally
located south of northeast 25th Street,
west of northeast 15th Avenue, north of New River and east
of the FCC, tracks that have a land use designation of T or C
two, a zoning designation of two U.S. East Roberta
Good evening Good evening.
What do you got for us from her two more committed on services
director.
So tonight is a discussion on whether or not the commission
would like to proceed forward with the rezoning
of the properties that are east of the fEC tracks south
of northeast 25th Street, down through
College Park This is actually the area
of discussion for this evening.
But Mayor if I may actually, before we start
through this discussion is just to go
over very briefly, the difference
between land use and zoning.
So land use is governed by the city's comprehensive plan
and it does identify the long term vision
for those for those specific properties where zoning
actually identifies what those uses
are with that specific uses.
So that's really a very basic difference between those two.
So when we look at development, we
have to look at the land use of the property first
and then from there, we're able to determine what
those overall uses would be.
And then we have to do the analysis based on zoning
So the area in question.
This is again, it's all land use.
Yossi So back when the city did this, I believe it was in 2013,
we did identify all of this areas Part of our
to see I remember how many single family
homes are in that area We did not do that analysis.
OK We can have that analysis done,
though, if the commission decides
to proceed forward, no problem.
So this is the area where the the zoning is.
We've identified one parcel on here that was
rezone through the generations.
Allow year.
So that's why it's not included even though on our zoning map,
it is still a multifamily.
So the existing zoning designation
are 16, which is multifamily, 16 units an acre
and r D ten, which is multi family ten units an acre So
that is the presentation.
It is the gist of where where we are going
is the area in question is here, whether or not
the commission would like for staff
to proceed forward with it.
We did do an analysis of costs.
If the commission does decide to proceed forward.
And it is roughly a little over $3,000,
which does include the consultant,
we need a sketch and legal description for the area.
And then staff time and all of our other advertisement
requirements, as well as postings Any questions for
roberto or thank you, Roberta.
Roberta, You just said that the zoning is armed.
16 and already ten.
Would it not be ours?
Five Also rather essential selling of family?
No.
The again, the zoning map only identifies those two
within the specific area.
That's in question.
So there may be single families, but they're
not zoned single families.
There may be uses of US uses.
So this so right now what we call it in the planning world
is there's inconsistencies between the land
use and the zoning.
So this process or project would be,
you know, making that consistent between the two.
And because the underlying land uses TLC,
would that require a mixed use development here?
Currently?
Not necessarily.
But again when we do the rezoning,
we do reevaluate Article 30 because we also have to identify
heights within the area.
So we have the hub map, which identifies
all of the heights within the Tosa area
within the urban center.
Okay And my understanding is the city manager I
believe you did a an appraisal.
Did you get some type of input or property?
We have an informal appraisal and we've
engaged with an appraiser to look at the two properties
that the city owns that are within this district.
And we have asked for the property
to be value at the existing zoning and the potential
of it to is zoning.
We don't have any results yet.
No, it will take, I think, 4 to 6 weeks.
OK OK.
I guess for me, I had added this to the list
because I have an issue any time there's
a difference between land use and zoning, it's confusing.
I don't know how long ago, this was designated TLC
or what the purpose of making the land use TLC,
but not having the zoning follow.
So that's why I added that to the list for discussion
The Roberto why were why was the area
and have a reason to toss east.
So i was not here when the taxes zoning was created.
We didn't make attempts to try to find historical documentation
as far as justification to why staff didn't choose to include
certain areas, meaning specifically this the only thing
that we could even contemplate is
that there was potentially resident opposition in order
to do that.
But again, it's there's no count formation.
We couldn't find any notes or anything Okay.
That so what is your recommendation
This is something that we need to do.
I would recommend proceeding forward with the rezoning.
Okay.
Do you think we need to get resident input from this area?
Absolutely.
So part of the cost analysis does include workshop
and meeting with the residents in the public to notify them
of the process So our typical outreach that we would do,
okay, are there other areas of our city
that are zoned differently that can we just do collective one
view of every area?
It doesn't work that way.
So we can't do one ordinance to rezone certain areas.
We would have to And it's something
it's an analysis that we've been doing slowly over time
is what are going parcel by parcel to see
the inconsistencies or consistencies
and then figuring out a game plan from there
on how we address it.
Yeah, I'm not so worried about like the random parcel of this
is like a big chunk of area that I can't even see from the map.
There's 50 parcels, I'm not sure.
But right.
It's not like a random parcel that we're looking at.
Other areas in the city.
It has like a large swath of No, not like this, about 80 units.
I think Oh, no, I'm good Yeah.
All right.
I'm good.
So I guess we want to go forward with this
And the city manager you have direction from commission
Any questions for us No, thank you, Roberta.
My typical question for the next commission meeting,
I know that we're we have two more items on the list.
One is square footage, minimum square footage and conversion.
And then we will be bringing back at a future meeting
the discussion of the heights 40 or C West to finishing
that analysis here.
Right.
Yeah.
We had two of us aren't here.
I was I would rather not discuss it.
Yeah, I agree and then the June 10 meeting
it is anticipated that the one hour project
will be before the commission.
So let's do it.
The Second meeting in June.
And I will not be here First meeting in July 2027.
No In the first meeting of July.
Like summer Or is our first meeting in August?
Oh, yes.
Oh Can you tell me what what meeting
Would you like to have it to the next one.
Whatever You and everyone you're comfortable with.
Just like we going to this one right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you All right.
Thank you.
City Manager Report All right, City Attorney.
Nothing Can I just ask you a question?
Sure I'm several months ago.
We increased the fees for non residents
for some of the park uses.
And I was just wondering if there's
been any feedback on that or any reduction of you
know, people that request commission request
report that's up for tonight.
We're scheduled to bring that to you by June 10th.
We do have an analysis of how that rate
change has affected revenue from park rentals and OK.
Thank you.
It might be the next meeting We might
be ready for the next meeting.
Yeah, I think it's affected more of our our rentals.
I think more than the tennis because tennis holiday park is
closed for two years for renovations
So everybody's looking for tennis courts
right now that just to throw it in when that analysis comes.
I hope it on that the percentage utilization
not just change in revenue.
Yes, I think some of it is we wanted
it to be more available for utilization you know,
by residents.
Right City Attorney I have nothing.
All right.
Thank you very much Okay.
We need to select a chair for the may
27th Commission meeting and absence
of me and the vice mayor Other.
All right What do you think?
That's what I don't know.
So we discussed this I'm good.
And then you're not going away together.
I already clarified.
Yes.
You both had enough for a week.
That's it.
So now we need a vice mayor Well, we're going You'll do it.
Okay so.
So you're right.
Our left is going to take care of being mayor and vice mayor.
Their next meeting I thought when I did this I'm
pretty good about making sure I'm not missing a meeting
But I'm going away and have to be.
I missing it by one day.
So And I'm not going to change something
I've had planned for over a year,
but so I'm going to miss it.
But sorry, you guys.
Take over for an okay All right.
Discussion of sponsor request for a Stonewall Pride
parade and Street Festival.
City Manager Absolutely.
They did receive a request from Jeff Sterling,
who is the cEO of Stonewall Pride Inc one that runs
our annual Stonewall Festival The request is for 50,000
for sponsorship level that was provided by the city
for the 2024 events.
He's present this evening.
If you have any questions for him
come up the name and address, please Yeah your road.
But you stay right now.
It's 8:45.
Jeffrey Sterling 2435.
North Dixie Highway Wilton Manors,
Florida Scott Holland 649.
West Oakland Park.
Wilbur boulevard will to manage Florida Okay.
The so quick summary, we all know what we did last year.
Last year, we had $100,000 a one time gift money half from you
and half from Crowder together.
All right So I knew going into this game that we were going
to be about $150,000 short.
I let you guys know want to give the report?
I wasn't close all this by myself.
So what we got was i figured out 50 of it.
So that left us still 100 short.
But I can close that last 50.
I just need help with the 50 from the city we have.
If you want to compare to last year.
So if we bring in the 50,000 from the city,
the 50,001 time from Crowder together we covered 42,000.
So we did close a gap of one time money from last year
to this year.
It just closing to that large amount was really rough.
We all know what this environment's like.
I don't need to go into detail of that So we have had the same
sponsorship levels other than the one
time gifts like this roughly $180,000,
185 from 22, 23 and 24.
And it looks like that's where we're going to be in 25.
So we had Covid and then our environment changed So
do we really should be growing 10% a month
because expense is, as we all know,
because all of our expenses go up.
They keep climbing.
But we've not been able to move that same meter
with the sponsorships and we don't anticipate
we think we're going to hit our mark
and everything else that we predicted to you,
income level wise.
I redid the numbers a couple weeks ago.
And we're still on point only variable.
We have obviously is admission because it's
too early to judge anything.
We won't know that until roughly ten days
out to start comparing against last year,
but we're comping into that.
Our numbers are solid in that area Oh,
in the grant that you guys talked about,
if we if we're awarded the grant,
that money would revert to you.
It come to us, it revert to you.
And you guys did submit the grant last week.
I believe, to the county Can you repeat what you just said?
So so there's so we would potentially
get this reimbursed back.
I missed.
Yes.
So I forget how much grand was for 25,
I don't know what was sent.
I didn't see was city manager.
50 plus 50.
OK So is that a state grant or a federal grant?
It's there.
The county cultural division.
OK.
So potentially we give the money If the county grants the grant
then we just get it back right?
Basically.
Correct.
OK And I understand that that they've
been for multi-year events like this, that they generally
the outlook has looks good, at least from other events
I'm involved that are applying.
They all seem to be getting positive feedback
that they're going to maybe, I guess,
kind of tell a different here.
It seems like a lot of events that are multi-year established,
it doesn't seem like it's very difficult for them
to get the right right.
So just like last year, you know although Jeff
Sterling and Hot Spots is the promoter,
this is a Wilton Manors event.
And I think we should be a sponsor of it.
And i'm happy to support that 50,000 like we did last year,
especially in these times where sponsors are
decreasing or staying the same.
Right?
We're not able there's a lot of products across the country that
are losing their sponsorships due to the nature
of the environment.
So I've i've had some discussions with Jeff.
I have torn apart his panel.
And in some cases him, which I apologize for.
But he's been very responsive about it
I had said previously that I would not support
any sponsorship because the event did so well last year
financially Some things have changed,
but one of the things that has me open to considering it
is there's a new.
I see a line item for metal detectors which is a new $35,000
increase cost that that you're bearing because we're requiring
metal detectors.
I understand we're not requiring that particular model.
But for.
We've also required that the line move efficiently.
And so you went with that model.
So the line moves efficiently.
Just as a general kind of comment you know,
we have to bear in mind.
And it's chief's job, but she's done very well is ensuring
people are safe above all else.
Right.
But every time we keep adding these level $35,000 now every
year as a new recurring cost, it makes these events more
difficult. And frankly, we potentially end up paying for it
through sponsorship because that's what you know,
that's where the gap is.
In other areas, they've made up, you know,
I think it's important as a city like we have other areas like I
can think of outside of say, Jim Bar,
where we were applying to potentially
get ballots to protect people.
Like if we're going to require that events protect people,
we have to do ourselves.
We have to we know we know where we have weak spots in our city.
And I think it's just as important that we address those.
That's sort of a tangent, but I think it's relevant
if we're making you cover that.
The the grant thing is definitely new to me.
And I think that that for me is something that
makes me open to doing this.
One other consideration is that going to be will matter?
Stonewall I mean, I think I love for it
to be branded will do matters not just stonewall Yes, it would
it would be just like last year.
The title is the title of the event.
So it'll be the Wilton Manors, Stonewall festival and the other
and and we change the logo, added your name
across the top and things like that That's good I mean,
I agree.
I mean, we have taxpayers that are complaining
about their taxes you know, giving money to events
But this is our one of our two signature events a year.
And every city has certain events
that they have and they put pride in
and this is one that we do.
But just to let everybody know, give me this
$50,000 is not the only thing we do
in support for Stonewall pride.
Do you have any numbers at all for that?
We're i don't have I didn't have enough time to get the numbers
together But you're right.
The city makes a substantial contribution
and waived permit fees, staff time, both at the event
and leading up to the event to help plan and make
sure that it's a success.
So we've got a lot of department directors
that will work quite a bit of overtime
and the day of the event.
That's a contribution as well Internally we use 30,000.
That's why I or the other portion of the work,
I just want people to know that, yeah,
you know, and I'm not plenty I'm just
saying it's not just 50,000.
There's a lot of other things that we do behind the scenes
like and who do you for 2 or 3 days?
I don't know if he gets any sleep at all during this event
because he pretty much helps you run the event
on the day or day before.
And he I know he's glad to do it until halfway through
and he's dead tired of your police department
also for the interim where the overtime that's
able to be internalized by using the wrong words here okay
but that's not that's also covered
by the budget within the city So there's that number is not
reflected when I come up with the 30
because I don't know what it is OK.
All right.
Thank you.
Yeah, I just.
I'm sorry.
I didn't know you had a question.
I had one other comment last year
when we did the sponsorship, we paid for, I think it
was police and fire directly.
Yeah.
And i would just recommend we do the same thing.
This is the sponsorship is a cash $50,000
contribution and I'm assuming that means
cash as opposed to in-kind.
And that's correct because we don't
allow the top level items to be in-kind at the 25 mark or over.
So the idea is in theory is cash.
And we did request the escrow account was by our request
and the police departments that we continue with the escrow
concept where you guys would fund the escrow on the monies
we paid for that we are agreement with that
because it solves everyone wants their money now what do you say?
Oh, the city will pay you.
Then all of a sudden that rush.
They needed is no longer there.
I fix it off.
I just feel a little bit better about it.
Going for safety, security, and fire than a blanket.
Chuck for Stonewall.
And that's pretty much what we did last year.
So that's what I would recommend.
Got you Yeah, Yeah, we're good All right.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you, everyone we need a motion to have to donate $50,000
in escrow to the Stonewall.
How do you want to hear that?
Well, we'd like to work on a sponsorship agreement.
Okay.
So you want to bring it back next meeting?
Yes.
All right.
I was like a resolution.
Yeah, and that'll have the contingency about the grant
money being reimbursed to us.
Make sure that's documented.
OK All right.
So you have direction, and then you guys will do that.
Will we're not here.
Yes.
And may or I misspoke.
I do have the calculation.
Okay The city's contribution.
So in addition to the $50,000 event sponsorship,
it's about another $48,000 in staff and budgeted
cost So over 700 staff hours.
We also do road closure barricades.
We rent water trucks.
It's quite a contribution.
OK.
Thank you, Chief can you just come on up for a second?
So what I ask your question.
Because we have two main events.
One is Stonewall and the other one
is wicked manners What's the difference in or maybe AC
might be clear.
What's the difference in staffing for one
or the other as far as police and safety and is
is a good evening.
Darren Brodsky, Assistant chief for your police department
The difference between the two events,
right as far as the police department's concerned,
I mean I know we have X amount.
I don't want to say how many because that's
for security reasons, bye.
Know Stonewall has so many.
And then and then look at manners
is another is it substantially different Yeah, I'd
say Stonewall has a somewhat of a significant larger footprint
And look at manners because of the parade.
You know All right.
I mean, those are our two main events.
And i was just.
Any reason why i mean, I understand the parade walk
in the parade and and that.
But I mean, we have just as many people,
if not more at wicked manners and we
do stuff the logistics of the parade and the set
up of the safety lane that requires the parade
to go on the safety lane and then
managing the crossings during that time frame is what creates
a lot of the extraneous different sizes
and probably cost and personnel.
But for the most part, the footprint of the actual event
other than this year, last year, it was from 21st court to buy
points this year it has expanded to 20 Street,
where it was two years ago.
So that does that does add to it as well.
True.
I like that, though.
I mean, I felt bad about some of the business I won't drive that.
We're not always excluded.
And I thought it was wrong that you know,
they're kind of pushed out with the big event.
So what matters.
Everybody is walks right by all those places from the bridge,
you know towards city Hall.
So I'm glad they are doing that this year
So it's a plus for everybody.
All right.
Thank you.
I just wanted to.
Yes, sir.
Thank you All right.
Request for replacement of items for next meeting.
I'd like to. doesn't need to be next meeting, but a few to say.
I'm going to say no to now for a future meeting.
I won't be the next.
Yeah go ahead I'd like to have a discussion about the direction
we're going on.
We're going in with regard to economic development
We talk about economic development all the time.
But we don't really have a plan of what we're going to do.
So I'd just like to have an a discussion about that.
OK For a future meeting, I want to bring back the issue of where
the money from the E go, whether that's
with that when that comes back.
But I definitely to finish that discussion.
Oh, yeah.
Good good Thank you all for coming out tonight.
This meeting is adjourned.
OK well, we go 20.
Your parking is going to start a half hour afterwards.
You're in trouble just because good is going to be here.
Feet next door to the footprint of the meeting.
I have.
I think I really do like you.
Tomorrow I'll come down and try to do
the day after i leave at 26.
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I'm.
I am not.
I can tell you that.
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I saw that Q Krispy kreme.
How I was going to say last time when I missed,
I was like, oh, you're going to call.
I was on a cruise.
I am not going to forget.
We give them to you here, right?
Yeah.
So all right.
You have a great trip Didn't do too.
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