1 00:06:51,000 --> 00:08:18,349 2 00:08:18,349 --> 00:08:18,889 But. 3 00:08:18,889 --> 00:08:26,209 All right I pledge allegiance to the flag 4 00:08:26,209 --> 00:08:29,299 of the United states of America and to the Republic 5 00:08:29,299 --> 00:08:30,529 for which it stands. 6 00:08:30,529 --> 00:08:32,479 One nation under God. 7 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:33,409 Indivisible. 8 00:08:33,409 --> 00:08:35,879 With liberty and justice for all. 9 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:36,379 Thank you. 10 00:08:36,379 --> 00:08:42,889 Congratulation, guys Roll call, please. 11 00:08:42,889 --> 00:08:44,629 Commissioner rocky here. 12 00:08:44,629 --> 00:08:47,209 Commissioner Dami you hear Commissioner Rowley 13 00:08:47,209 --> 00:08:49,129 Hear Vice Mayor Caputo here. 14 00:08:49,129 --> 00:08:52,969 Mayor Newton, you're addressing changes of regulations 15 00:08:52,969 --> 00:08:53,750 for tonight's meeting. 16 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:55,380 Anyone hearing? 17 00:08:55,380 --> 00:08:55,880 None. 18 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,259 I'll move on All right I don't know if anybody knows, 19 00:09:00,259 --> 00:09:03,469 but this week is police week. 20 00:09:03,469 --> 00:09:12,019 National police Week, and i had the honor last week in the city 21 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:14,869 to be at Broward College for Public safety, 22 00:09:14,869 --> 00:09:18,026 where all the police officers are really become police people, 23 00:09:18,026 --> 00:09:20,629 become police officers in our county. 24 00:09:20,629 --> 00:09:24,139 When you're going to school here and we were the host city 25 00:09:24,139 --> 00:09:30,229 this year where the police memorial for Broward County 26 00:09:30,229 --> 00:09:34,970 it was an honor to give the speech guest speaker for that. 27 00:09:34,970 --> 00:09:40,766 The only tough thing was it was it was to remember the 105 83 28 00:09:40,766 --> 00:09:45,439 officers that have died in Broward County and seven 29 00:09:45,439 --> 00:09:46,729 of the police dogs that have died 30 00:09:46,729 --> 00:09:49,999 in Broward County since the inception of Broward County. 31 00:09:49,999 --> 00:09:53,359 And i just thought that was an awful lot of I 32 00:09:53,359 --> 00:09:54,979 know we've been around a while, but just 33 00:09:54,979 --> 00:09:57,229 seems to be like a lot of men and women 34 00:09:57,229 --> 00:10:00,439 that have been killed in the line of duty 35 00:10:00,439 --> 00:10:03,139 and in just Broward county. 36 00:10:03,139 --> 00:10:05,539 So it was an honor to do that. 37 00:10:05,539 --> 00:10:10,429 Chief you and your team did a great job on the color guard 38 00:10:10,429 --> 00:10:12,229 and a lot of the things they did for that event. 39 00:10:12,229 --> 00:10:13,639 There. 40 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:18,409 So thank you very much for that Whereas there are more than 41 00:10:18,409 --> 00:10:21,919 800,000 law enforcement officers serving in communities across 42 00:10:21,919 --> 00:10:24,889 the United States, including a dedicated professionals 43 00:10:24,889 --> 00:10:28,009 of the Wilton Manors Police Department who are passionately 44 00:10:28,009 --> 00:10:31,129 committed to serving our community Whereas, 45 00:10:31,129 --> 00:10:34,369 despite their staffs challenges, there were a total of nine 46 00:10:34,369 --> 00:10:38,689 assaults against Wilton Manors officers in 2023, 47 00:10:38,689 --> 00:10:44,779 five assaults in 2024, representing an approximate 42% 48 00:10:44,779 --> 00:10:48,259 decrease over a two year period, compared to 12 49 00:10:48,259 --> 00:10:51,829 assaults reported in 2001. 50 00:10:51,829 --> 00:10:58,009 Since the first recorded death in 1786 more than 24,067 51 00:10:58,009 --> 00:10:59,149 law enforcement officers. 52 00:10:59,149 --> 00:11:02,929 Throughout u.S. history have made the ultimate sacrifice 53 00:11:02,929 --> 00:11:07,309 and have been killed in the line of duty The names of the Two 54 00:11:07,309 --> 00:11:10,879 $24,400 well fallen officer engraved on the walls 55 00:11:10,879 --> 00:11:14,329 of the National law Enforcement Officer Memorial in Washington, 56 00:11:14,329 --> 00:11:22,009 D.C. Whereas in 2025, the names of 345 officers who were killed 57 00:11:22,009 --> 00:11:25,245 in line of duty were added to the National law Enforcement 58 00:11:25,245 --> 00:11:29,119 and Memorial that includes 148 officers 59 00:11:29,119 --> 00:11:33,109 killed in 2024, as well as 197 officers 60 00:11:33,109 --> 00:11:35,809 killed in previous years. 61 00:11:35,809 --> 00:11:37,609 Whereas Broward County Law Enforcement Memorial 62 00:11:37,609 --> 00:11:41,359 was held on May two seven, 2025, and hosted by Wilt Manors 63 00:11:41,359 --> 00:11:42,649 police Department. 64 00:11:42,649 --> 00:11:45,499 Whereas service and sacrifice of all officers, 65 00:11:45,499 --> 00:11:48,289 line of duty fatalities were be honored during the national law 66 00:11:48,289 --> 00:11:51,799 enforcement officer Memorial Fund 37 Candlelight 67 00:11:51,799 --> 00:11:53,989 vigil Village Vigil. 68 00:11:53,989 --> 00:11:55,579 Vigil Sorry. 69 00:11:55,579 --> 00:11:57,629 On the evening of May 13. 70 00:11:57,629 --> 00:11:58,129 And. 71 00:11:58,129 --> 00:12:00,949 Whereas, the annual candlelight vigil is part of the National 72 00:12:00,949 --> 00:12:04,095 Police Week, which will be observed beginning on Sunday, 73 00:12:04,095 --> 00:12:07,129 May 11th through Saturday may 17th. 74 00:12:07,129 --> 00:12:09,919 Whereas May 15th is designated as peace officers, 75 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:12,979 Memorial Day in honor of all fallen officers, 76 00:12:12,979 --> 00:12:15,140 their family is and U.S. flag should 77 00:12:15,140 --> 00:12:18,949 be flown at half staff in honor of the National Police Week. 78 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:21,177 And to recognize willimantic Police Department officers. 79 00:12:21,177 --> 00:12:25,129 Our city hall police station will be eliminated in blue. 80 00:12:25,129 --> 00:12:26,637 Now, therefore be played by the city. 81 00:12:26,637 --> 00:12:31,849 What matters the week of May 11th through the 1725 designated 82 00:12:31,849 --> 00:12:34,249 National police Week. 83 00:12:34,249 --> 00:12:37,189 Assistant Chief, thank you for all you do and your officers 84 00:12:37,189 --> 00:12:38,209 for a city will manners. 85 00:12:38,209 --> 00:12:47,506 Thank you sir. 86 00:12:47,506 --> 00:12:48,301 But I see you. 87 00:12:48,301 --> 00:13:02,209 Come up to I think you guys probably 88 00:13:02,209 --> 00:13:34,429 did all the right All right. 89 00:13:34,429 --> 00:13:37,517 Presentations City manager. 90 00:13:37,517 --> 00:13:38,640 Thank you. 91 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,140 You. 92 00:13:39,140 --> 00:13:41,419 I'm going to ask Director Sanchez to introduce this item. 93 00:13:41,419 --> 00:13:50,209 Please good evening, DIA Sanchez, Human Resources 94 00:13:50,209 --> 00:13:53,329 director for nearly Three years, Circuit 95 00:13:53,329 --> 00:13:55,279 has operated within our city limits, 96 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:57,471 providing a fun mode of transportation 97 00:13:57,471 --> 00:14:00,739 for what manners residents and visitors They're low 98 00:14:00,739 --> 00:14:04,909 cost eco friendly rides have been embraced by the community, 99 00:14:04,909 --> 00:14:07,519 offering a safe means of navigating our island 100 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:10,219 city at the request of the city commission, 101 00:14:10,219 --> 00:14:14,119 we have Jason bagley, partner and VP of Strategic Growth 102 00:14:14,119 --> 00:14:17,209 here to give a brief presentation on circuits 103 00:14:17,209 --> 00:14:20,839 2020 for operational and rider data. 104 00:14:20,839 --> 00:14:22,999 Jason and I are also available. 105 00:14:22,999 --> 00:14:25,729 Any questions the Commission may have following the presentation 106 00:14:25,729 --> 00:14:35,729 Jason okay All right. 107 00:14:35,729 --> 00:14:36,229 Thank you. 108 00:14:36,229 --> 00:14:40,189 Do good evening Mayor, Vice, Mayor and Commissioners. 109 00:14:40,189 --> 00:14:41,959 Jason Bagley, partner with Circuit 110 00:14:41,959 --> 00:14:47,329 here to give an update for our 2024 results for our program 111 00:14:47,329 --> 00:14:52,819 here in the city, Wilton Manors starting with a quick overview. 112 00:14:52,819 --> 00:14:59,539 Our service coverage area is all city limits are schedule is here 113 00:14:59,539 --> 00:15:03,379 Posted Monday through Tuesday 11 a.m. to nine, 114 00:15:03,379 --> 00:15:05,749 Wednesday to Saturday, noon to 11 p.m. 115 00:15:05,749 --> 00:15:07,399 Sunday 11 to 11. 116 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:09,889 We have refined these hours a little bit over the three years, 117 00:15:09,889 --> 00:15:13,039 but I think we've landed on the most impactful 118 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:16,489 to the community we have four vehicles in the fleet. 119 00:15:16,489 --> 00:15:19,459 There's two of the gem neighborhood electric vehicles 120 00:15:19,459 --> 00:15:23,539 that you see on the photo We recently added an eV sedan 121 00:15:23,539 --> 00:15:28,519 and then we also have an aDA gem gem that operates on standby 122 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:30,799 until it's requested. 123 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:37,039 Services $2 per rider The vehicle that we added in March, 124 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:39,349 there was some issues where we couldn't bring 125 00:15:39,349 --> 00:15:41,329 the gems to a couple streets. 126 00:15:41,329 --> 00:15:44,719 I think it was northeast and northwest 30th caught. 127 00:15:44,719 --> 00:15:46,099 It would involve the drivers having 128 00:15:46,099 --> 00:15:47,449 to go out on Oakland Park Boulevard 129 00:15:47,449 --> 00:15:49,219 to access those streets. 130 00:15:49,219 --> 00:15:51,829 So we saw an opportunity for opportunity 131 00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:54,619 to replace one of the gems with this eV 132 00:15:54,619 --> 00:15:56,929 sedan that can go anywhere. 133 00:15:56,929 --> 00:15:58,789 It has a much greater battery range. 134 00:15:58,789 --> 00:16:00,469 So we can charge at once. 135 00:16:00,469 --> 00:16:03,019 And it and it gets through an entire day with plenty 136 00:16:03,019 --> 00:16:04,766 of mileage to spare. 137 00:16:04,766 --> 00:16:07,129 It can be driven on those major roads, 138 00:16:07,129 --> 00:16:09,139 which means more direct routes. 139 00:16:09,139 --> 00:16:13,039 And we were able to finally cover those two those streets 140 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:15,139 that we weren't able to access before. 141 00:16:15,139 --> 00:16:17,715 I will note that this also opens up the opportunity. 142 00:16:17,715 --> 00:16:20,089 We've spoken with the city over the years 143 00:16:20,089 --> 00:16:22,429 about potentially trying to connect to the beach. 144 00:16:22,429 --> 00:16:25,849 So by having a vehicle that can go on Oakland Park Boulevard 145 00:16:25,849 --> 00:16:28,939 or A-1, A, we have the potential if you wanted to open up 146 00:16:28,939 --> 00:16:31,219 that opportunity for two residents, 147 00:16:31,219 --> 00:16:34,579 whether it be on certain days or certain hours, 148 00:16:34,579 --> 00:16:35,954 but we'll just leave it out there 149 00:16:35,954 --> 00:16:37,541 that that is an option we could create 150 00:16:37,541 --> 00:16:40,819 a higher rate to go to the beach, a higher fare 151 00:16:40,819 --> 00:16:42,259 to the rider. 152 00:16:42,259 --> 00:16:46,063 We also updated we have a new data portal that we share 153 00:16:46,063 --> 00:16:49,674 with Doe which gives them real time access to go in and look 154 00:16:49,674 --> 00:16:53,269 at the data and generate reports around you know, 155 00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:56,389 certain days or times of the day. 156 00:16:56,389 --> 00:17:00,719 And it also gives quick insights of how many riders per hour. 157 00:17:00,719 --> 00:17:03,259 What our average wait time is This is also provided 158 00:17:03,259 --> 00:17:08,299 in a monthly data report that we share but this gives continuous 159 00:17:08,299 --> 00:17:12,829 access to that information And as we look at 2020 160 00:17:12,829 --> 00:17:17,299 for our average, we did over 3,000 riders a month The program 161 00:17:17,299 --> 00:17:19,549 has created ten local jobs. 162 00:17:19,549 --> 00:17:24,349 But 35% of our rides are pools One of the most impressive 163 00:17:24,349 --> 00:17:27,799 metrics I think, is the average wait time is 6 to 7 minutes, 164 00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:31,069 and we've been able to maintain that long term considering it 165 00:17:31,069 --> 00:17:34,804 is a fairly wide area with only Three cars on the road. 166 00:17:34,804 --> 00:17:37,849 I think that's pretty impressive with the numbers that we have 167 00:17:37,849 --> 00:17:42,409 able to complete as well And here's just an overall snapshot, 168 00:17:42,409 --> 00:17:45,979 41,000 passengers moved in 2024. 169 00:17:45,979 --> 00:17:48,421 Average driver rating, 4.9, Five out 170 00:17:48,421 --> 00:17:50,629 of five stars on the App Store. 171 00:17:50,629 --> 00:17:53,949 Again, average wait times Six minutes, 48 seconds. 172 00:17:53,949 --> 00:18:00,679 And the average user age is 54 and Wilton Manors this is 173 00:18:00,679 --> 00:18:05,629 a month by month overview showing the peak months in march 174 00:18:05,629 --> 00:18:12,199 and May and just a chart of our ridership with total requires 175 00:18:12,199 --> 00:18:17,419 completed trips and total passengers 176 00:18:17,419 --> 00:18:20,629 a little bit more insight busiest times 5 to 7 p.m.. 177 00:18:20,629 --> 00:18:23,419 We've seen that consists utterly throughout this the life 178 00:18:23,419 --> 00:18:25,669 of this program. 179 00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:28,069 Busiest day is no surprise Friday, Saturday, 180 00:18:28,069 --> 00:18:30,229 Sunday and again March and May. 181 00:18:30,229 --> 00:18:32,622 Some of the busiest months, we can get really granular 182 00:18:32,622 --> 00:18:35,449 with the data and see the top pick up and drop off 183 00:18:35,449 --> 00:18:42,079 destinations with Heatmaps And our survey that we conducted 184 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:45,829 and some of the good results here are 93% of riders 185 00:18:45,829 --> 00:18:50,539 think that circuits are a great addition to the community 80% 186 00:18:50,539 --> 00:18:52,279 help it helps them drive less. 187 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:54,536 I know a lot of people are coming staying at Airbnbs 188 00:18:54,536 --> 00:18:57,601 than know that they don't need to rent a car now to get around. 189 00:18:57,601 --> 00:18:59,948 70% of the ride is here are local, 190 00:18:59,948 --> 00:19:04,219 so it's always great to see a little bit more 191 00:19:04,219 --> 00:19:09,971 on the survey results Again, 71% live in the area. 192 00:19:09,971 --> 00:19:12,139 And then some of the use cases where 193 00:19:12,139 --> 00:19:14,481 people have taken the service. 194 00:19:14,481 --> 00:19:23,599 So, again, no big surprises here Some testimony animals 195 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:27,619 and some great photos of the partnership I'm 196 00:19:27,619 --> 00:19:33,079 happy to answer any questions, any questions for anyone 197 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:35,299 So good Yeah. 198 00:19:35,299 --> 00:19:36,109 Thank you. 199 00:19:36,109 --> 00:19:37,189 Just a quick question. 200 00:19:37,189 --> 00:19:41,145 You one of the One of the slides for you 201 00:19:41,145 --> 00:19:43,300 talked about riders and then unique users. 202 00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:44,488 You distinguish between the two. 203 00:19:44,488 --> 00:19:45,739 What does that mean? 204 00:19:45,739 --> 00:19:47,989 That's how many different people download the app 205 00:19:47,989 --> 00:19:49,099 and are unique user. 206 00:19:49,099 --> 00:19:51,709 So there'll be a lot of repetitive use. 207 00:19:51,709 --> 00:19:54,349 You know, one person may use the service every day, 208 00:19:54,349 --> 00:19:56,929 but that extrapolates out the how 209 00:19:56,929 --> 00:19:58,819 many different unique accounts or 210 00:19:58,819 --> 00:20:00,444 associated with this location. 211 00:20:00,444 --> 00:20:03,079 OK And at any given time, how many vehicles 212 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:07,189 or actually how many vehicles are available to ours? 213 00:20:07,189 --> 00:20:10,609 Typically three vehicles on the road three on the road. 214 00:20:10,609 --> 00:20:11,119 But we're not. 215 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,469 Ada, stand by. 216 00:20:12,469 --> 00:20:15,589 Is if it's requested, we'll swap out to that vehicle. 217 00:20:15,589 --> 00:20:17,359 So we would swap out to that vehicle. 218 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,979 So three would be the max. 219 00:20:18,979 --> 00:20:20,479 Yes OK. 220 00:20:20,479 --> 00:20:22,879 I'm not sure if it's a question for you, 221 00:20:22,879 --> 00:20:26,839 but we have five electronic vehicles stations 222 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:29,599 and I guess i just question why we have five. 223 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:31,519 If there's either 3 or 4 vehicles, 224 00:20:31,519 --> 00:20:43,429 but may not be a question for you going to jump We have five. 225 00:20:43,429 --> 00:20:45,829 So that we could charge all three vehicles 226 00:20:45,829 --> 00:20:47,899 as well as the ADA vehicle. 227 00:20:47,899 --> 00:20:50,149 There are times that some of those charging stations 228 00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:54,169 can be faulty so that provides always access 229 00:20:54,169 --> 00:20:56,209 to all vehicles to charge. 230 00:20:56,209 --> 00:20:58,219 We also have an employee charging program 231 00:20:58,219 --> 00:21:02,005 that those Chargers are available to. 232 00:21:02,005 --> 00:21:02,779 OK Thank. 233 00:21:02,779 --> 00:21:04,459 Thank you. 234 00:21:04,459 --> 00:21:07,792 Are all of the electronic vehicles stations 235 00:21:07,792 --> 00:21:12,666 are they fast chargers Are they all charging at the same rate? 236 00:21:12,666 --> 00:21:15,218 I remember at one point, they were not Yeah, 237 00:21:15,218 --> 00:21:17,523 Everything now is a level two fast charger. 238 00:21:17,523 --> 00:21:18,419 OK Yeah. 239 00:21:18,419 --> 00:21:18,919 All right. 240 00:21:18,919 --> 00:21:22,197 Thank you, sir But yeah, thank you for the presentation. 241 00:21:22,197 --> 00:21:24,509 So I know you had some key takeaways on there. 242 00:21:24,509 --> 00:21:25,009 Yep. 243 00:21:25,009 --> 00:21:27,739 And how do you use those key takeaways 244 00:21:27,739 --> 00:21:31,639 to turn into useful insights or improve efficiencies 245 00:21:31,639 --> 00:21:34,499 And you mentioned something about possibly changing times. 246 00:21:34,499 --> 00:21:34,999 Yeah. 247 00:21:34,999 --> 00:21:37,219 I mean that's been the evolution over the three years. 248 00:21:37,219 --> 00:21:38,449 I think we've done a lot of that. 249 00:21:38,449 --> 00:21:40,609 We start collecting data and then we can 250 00:21:40,609 --> 00:21:42,799 refine the approach from there. 251 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:44,569 We have done that with service hours, 252 00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:47,329 the zone is another one that's usually changed, 253 00:21:47,329 --> 00:21:49,919 but You all have orders of a of an island. 254 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:51,729 So that was an easy One. 255 00:21:51,729 --> 00:21:54,129 We've always covered the entire city limits, 256 00:21:54,129 --> 00:21:57,049 but Yeah, just looking at these insights 257 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:59,450 there's trends that we've seen year over year now that we've 258 00:21:59,450 --> 00:22:03,679 been here this long, but we work closely with Deo and Nick 259 00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:05,419 and talk about any kind of changes 260 00:22:05,419 --> 00:22:06,589 that we might want to make. 261 00:22:06,589 --> 00:22:08,779 I don't think there's any been anything huge 262 00:22:08,779 --> 00:22:12,349 over the last couple of months, but it's all showing in the data 263 00:22:12,349 --> 00:22:14,929 and can be evaluated and something that we're looking to 264 00:22:14,929 --> 00:22:16,879 shows obviously definitely from 5 to 7. 265 00:22:16,879 --> 00:22:18,409 But later on as well. 266 00:22:18,409 --> 00:22:25,729 Can you explain to the residents why you don't go past 11:00 We 267 00:22:25,729 --> 00:22:28,519 have as a company, we typically don't run 268 00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:31,197 later than midnight so we could be 269 00:22:31,197 --> 00:22:33,229 doing that here if you'd like. 270 00:22:33,229 --> 00:22:36,262 That's just a and it's something we may want to consider. 271 00:22:36,262 --> 00:22:37,129 I think we'll get started. 272 00:22:37,129 --> 00:22:39,700 The program, we were told at least I was told I 273 00:22:39,700 --> 00:22:40,700 don't know about anybody else. 274 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:42,919 So it's circuit doesn't operate after 11. 275 00:22:42,919 --> 00:22:44,964 Yeah, we have I think since then, we 276 00:22:44,964 --> 00:22:46,684 have added some locations where we may want 277 00:22:46,684 --> 00:22:48,169 to consider right that 11 a.m. 278 00:22:48,169 --> 00:22:53,150 time doesn't really seem to be overly overly. 279 00:22:53,150 --> 00:22:54,199 It's not a really popular. 280 00:22:54,199 --> 00:22:56,665 You could also keep the hours and just 281 00:22:56,665 --> 00:22:59,599 have one car in the morning and have, 282 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:03,296 you know, save those hours for later to go to extend beyond 11. 283 00:23:03,296 --> 00:23:04,129 You know what I'm saying? 284 00:23:04,129 --> 00:23:05,899 Just shift hours around. 285 00:23:05,899 --> 00:23:07,790 Related to that you're saying it's 11:00 use, 286 00:23:07,790 --> 00:23:08,899 but often it stops at 11. 287 00:23:08,899 --> 00:23:10,623 So that would be when something dropped off after. 288 00:23:10,623 --> 00:23:13,201 And I'm saying it's not really used 11 in the morning, 289 00:23:13,201 --> 00:23:14,750 just later on in the evening. 290 00:23:14,750 --> 00:23:16,279 Yeah One thing that I'd like just 291 00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:19,279 to see the Times to that conversation in particular 292 00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:22,168 is obviously, right now we see like, you know that 910, 293 00:23:22,168 --> 00:23:23,801 it starts to trail off. 294 00:23:23,801 --> 00:23:26,599 But I would imagine if you were to filter this data down to just 295 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:28,849 Friday and Saturday as a percentage 296 00:23:28,849 --> 00:23:29,839 those are much higher, right? 297 00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:31,272 So if we're talking about going to midnight 298 00:23:31,272 --> 00:23:33,049 we would do that maybe on a Friday or Saturday. 299 00:23:33,049 --> 00:23:33,749 Not not not. 300 00:23:33,749 --> 00:23:34,249 Yeah. 301 00:23:34,249 --> 00:23:35,929 And that's typically what it would be. 302 00:23:35,929 --> 00:23:38,389 It's just Friday Saturday night We can extend those hours. 303 00:23:38,389 --> 00:23:40,249 I think that's something I'd like to see 304 00:23:40,249 --> 00:23:41,547 us look at doing potentially. 305 00:23:41,547 --> 00:23:43,725 So we have less people potentially drinking and driving 306 00:23:43,725 --> 00:23:47,269 in during our busiest times and just from some personal use 307 00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:50,389 with the app I've noticed it could be a little glitchy 308 00:23:50,389 --> 00:23:55,339 and right it pops up and it shows it's three minutes away. 309 00:23:55,339 --> 00:23:55,959 Order it. 310 00:23:55,959 --> 00:23:57,266 And then all of a sudden, it's all 311 00:23:57,266 --> 00:23:59,588 the way on the other side of the city, and it's 20 minutes away. 312 00:23:59,588 --> 00:24:01,249 And that's all you end up canceling. 313 00:24:01,249 --> 00:24:02,019 Have you worked on. 314 00:24:02,019 --> 00:24:03,019 I brought this up in the past. 315 00:24:03,019 --> 00:24:03,829 We are, Yeah. 316 00:24:03,829 --> 00:24:05,869 I mean, we've had about 40 app updates 317 00:24:05,869 --> 00:24:08,839 in the last year and a half, so it's constantly being worked on. 318 00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:10,039 We are aware of that. 319 00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:11,533 You know we've heard it. 320 00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:13,669 And we are addressing it. 321 00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:17,059 So we're working with our development team 322 00:24:17,059 --> 00:24:18,385 to find any of those updates. 323 00:24:18,385 --> 00:24:19,483 That's going to improve that. 324 00:24:19,483 --> 00:24:20,929 You know the service to everybody. 325 00:24:20,929 --> 00:24:22,405 Perfect Thank you. 326 00:24:22,405 --> 00:24:23,275 I like the program. 327 00:24:23,275 --> 00:24:23,797 Thank you. 328 00:24:23,797 --> 00:24:24,667 It's very good program. 329 00:24:24,667 --> 00:24:25,169 Thank you. 330 00:24:25,169 --> 00:24:25,669 You. 331 00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:27,199 Just one question I have is I know 332 00:24:27,199 --> 00:24:30,589 you talked about the car can be used all day long Yeah, 333 00:24:30,589 --> 00:24:36,006 but the carts I know in the past maybe some of the Chargers, 334 00:24:36,006 --> 00:24:37,121 some of the batteries are bad. 335 00:24:37,121 --> 00:24:40,729 Yeah, it's that part is unacceptable 336 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:42,079 because, you know, we have drivers 337 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:44,149 that are there ready to go, and they come in, they're dead. 338 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:45,649 Yeah, they can't use them. 339 00:24:45,649 --> 00:24:46,805 And then there's one less. 340 00:24:46,805 --> 00:24:48,539 That's on the road that we're paying for. 341 00:24:48,539 --> 00:24:51,579 Make sure that they're theirs I want 342 00:24:51,579 --> 00:24:52,579 to make sure we clean that up. 343 00:24:52,579 --> 00:24:54,351 I mean can you get stronger batteries for that? 344 00:24:54,351 --> 00:24:56,944 I think well, I think we've gotten to a much better spot 345 00:24:56,944 --> 00:24:58,633 with the new chartstring that's out there. 346 00:24:58,633 --> 00:25:00,749 That's, I think that's remedied pretty much everything. 347 00:25:00,749 --> 00:25:03,649 And we have Bob McClure, our location manager here 348 00:25:03,649 --> 00:25:04,849 who knows better than anybody. 349 00:25:04,849 --> 00:25:06,859 But I think those are our issues. 350 00:25:06,859 --> 00:25:09,619 Maybe six months ago, but the charging 351 00:25:09,619 --> 00:25:11,373 has not been an issue since OK. 352 00:25:11,373 --> 00:25:12,849 I just to make sure I know charging 353 00:25:12,849 --> 00:25:15,889 as much as the batteries, I know you can buy better batteries 354 00:25:15,889 --> 00:25:18,049 than others and they last longer and get charged faster 355 00:25:18,049 --> 00:25:20,653 and all that is from make sure that we keep up on that. 356 00:25:20,653 --> 00:25:22,849 Because I know in the past i've I've 357 00:25:22,849 --> 00:25:24,659 gone to talk to the drivers. 358 00:25:24,659 --> 00:25:25,159 Yeah. 359 00:25:25,159 --> 00:25:28,099 For the last couple of years and they love being there 360 00:25:28,099 --> 00:25:28,670 and all this. 361 00:25:28,670 --> 00:25:31,639 There's sometimes they get there and the charger in charge 362 00:25:31,639 --> 00:25:35,359 or the battery was bad and it's been a couple of days We really 363 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,071 need to have if we supposed to have three cars on there 364 00:25:38,071 --> 00:25:39,704 that we should have three cards Four completely 365 00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:40,884 understand and agree. 366 00:25:40,884 --> 00:25:42,654 Then just one other comment. 367 00:25:42,654 --> 00:25:44,479 So i don't know how it is for other cities 368 00:25:44,479 --> 00:25:46,279 specifically for our city. 369 00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:47,959 What's the policy If someone like 370 00:25:47,959 --> 00:25:51,469 is just standing on Wilton Drive and the carts going by empty 371 00:25:51,469 --> 00:25:52,669 can they flag it down? 372 00:25:52,669 --> 00:25:55,129 That's what we would typically allow that, yes 373 00:25:55,129 --> 00:25:57,199 And that's an opportunity to give 374 00:25:57,199 --> 00:26:00,229 somebody the QR code to download the app for their next trip. 375 00:26:00,229 --> 00:26:03,589 So absolutely unless you didn't want us to do that, we would 376 00:26:03,589 --> 00:26:06,829 always take a walk up personally where I was told no order it 377 00:26:06,829 --> 00:26:09,769 from the app and literally the guy was waiting, sitting there 378 00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:13,399 for ride Well, the only thing that comes up there to me as 379 00:26:13,399 --> 00:26:16,523 well, so maybe it's just an educational Yeah, well, it's 380 00:26:16,523 --> 00:26:19,909 also a fare collection thing is that we're not in that instance, 381 00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:21,565 we would not take cash. 382 00:26:21,565 --> 00:26:22,117 Yeah. 383 00:26:22,117 --> 00:26:24,139 But again i would always lean towards the let's 384 00:26:24,139 --> 00:26:25,323 get somebody using the service. 385 00:26:25,323 --> 00:26:28,055 And then next time they're going to use the app, right? 386 00:26:28,055 --> 00:26:32,359 So I think as a as a way to, you know, bills are $2 per rider. 387 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,449 Does that go to the city Does that does that get split? 388 00:26:35,449 --> 00:26:37,009 That's I think that's a split. 389 00:26:37,009 --> 00:26:39,169 But after the credit card processing fees, 390 00:26:39,169 --> 00:26:41,646 I think we had to add our fare guarantee. 391 00:26:41,646 --> 00:26:43,179 I can get that from the city. 392 00:26:43,179 --> 00:26:43,679 Yeah. 393 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:44,493 OK, good. 394 00:26:44,493 --> 00:26:46,129 You have a credit card. 395 00:26:46,129 --> 00:26:47,629 I'm sorry, but can you. 396 00:26:47,629 --> 00:26:50,239 Can't you have a credit card swipe or a. 397 00:26:50,239 --> 00:26:50,839 We've done it. 398 00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:54,019 It's just a lot for the drivers to to handle a swipe card 399 00:26:54,019 --> 00:26:56,269 or where working on some tap technology 400 00:26:56,269 --> 00:26:58,189 Now we're looking at speaking with a couple of companies 401 00:26:58,189 --> 00:26:59,368 that might do that. 402 00:26:59,368 --> 00:27:01,519 OK But we've also done things where 403 00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,189 the rider could just scan a QR code on the car 404 00:27:04,189 --> 00:27:05,122 and make the payment. 405 00:27:05,122 --> 00:27:05,706 So the driver. 406 00:27:05,706 --> 00:27:07,039 So we have a couple of things like that. 407 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:07,752 We're testing it, right? 408 00:27:07,752 --> 00:27:07,909 Right. 409 00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:09,199 It's always getting new or new. 410 00:27:09,199 --> 00:27:09,699 Yeah. 411 00:27:09,699 --> 00:27:12,679 I think that when we launched the program part of it was you 412 00:27:12,679 --> 00:27:14,669 could just flag it down, and we didn't 413 00:27:14,669 --> 00:27:16,134 really care about the fee. 414 00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:16,634 Yeah. 415 00:27:16,634 --> 00:27:18,270 So at the beginning, yeah, because we 416 00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:19,481 get to see how well it's right. 417 00:27:19,481 --> 00:27:19,981 Yeah. 418 00:27:19,981 --> 00:27:21,919 I'm just saying right now. 419 00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:22,919 I love the service. 420 00:27:22,919 --> 00:27:25,249 I think it's great I have a couple of questions. 421 00:27:25,249 --> 00:27:27,679 Some of these if these are contractual or pass kind of what 422 00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:31,069 you can speak to, we I can certainly handle the city 423 00:27:31,069 --> 00:27:35,819 manager separately, but when it comes to the sedan, 424 00:27:35,819 --> 00:27:40,699 it sounds like that potentially is a more effective vehicle 425 00:27:40,699 --> 00:27:42,378 in terms of its availability. 426 00:27:42,378 --> 00:27:44,659 The time to charge etc. is the total cost 427 00:27:44,659 --> 00:27:46,126 of ownership significantly more for that 428 00:27:46,126 --> 00:27:47,059 than it's a little bit more. 429 00:27:47,059 --> 00:27:51,679 It's about 10% more so but it's 10% more on the streets A kid? 430 00:27:51,679 --> 00:27:53,509 Yeah, it could be for sure in the contract. 431 00:27:53,509 --> 00:27:55,969 Who bears the cost of putting in a vehicle? 432 00:27:55,969 --> 00:27:57,622 Is that do we ultimately bear that cost? 433 00:27:57,622 --> 00:27:58,262 It's our choice. 434 00:27:58,262 --> 00:27:59,329 Or is that something you decide? 435 00:27:59,329 --> 00:28:01,309 Well, the contract was for the vehicles 436 00:28:01,309 --> 00:28:03,289 that we started with for those GM vehicles. 437 00:28:03,289 --> 00:28:06,619 I don't think at the time we were even doing other vehicles 438 00:28:06,619 --> 00:28:08,119 But we're happy to do an amendment 439 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,231 If you're thinking of a okay, so, you know, 440 00:28:11,231 --> 00:28:12,393 maybe you could speak to this. 441 00:28:12,393 --> 00:28:16,969 OK I think to answer the question of the current fleet, 442 00:28:16,969 --> 00:28:18,469 I negotiate that with circuit. 443 00:28:18,469 --> 00:28:21,529 There is no additional cost to the city for that sedan 444 00:28:21,529 --> 00:28:22,459 that we have right now. 445 00:28:22,459 --> 00:28:24,979 So we are continuing to pay the same amount 446 00:28:24,979 --> 00:28:29,191 as when we had the three GM vehicles But at some point, 447 00:28:29,191 --> 00:28:31,127 there's the contract expires will renew it. 448 00:28:31,127 --> 00:28:33,042 That may change because the vehicle wasn't available. 449 00:28:33,042 --> 00:28:33,972 That is correct. 450 00:28:33,972 --> 00:28:40,549 OK Are there any disadvantages to using the sedan I think 451 00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:42,019 there's a couple of things. 452 00:28:42,019 --> 00:28:43,459 It's not as many seats. 453 00:28:43,459 --> 00:28:46,069 It's not as convenient where everybody gets 454 00:28:46,069 --> 00:28:47,899 their own door in the GM car. 455 00:28:47,899 --> 00:28:49,718 It doesn't stand out as much. 456 00:28:49,718 --> 00:28:53,509 Yeah branding is it's tougher to sell advertising on a sedan 457 00:28:53,509 --> 00:28:55,969 than it is on the GM car So that's 458 00:28:55,969 --> 00:28:57,469 why I think most of our location ins 459 00:28:57,469 --> 00:29:00,823 are doing mixed fleets now So you have a couple of each. 460 00:29:00,823 --> 00:29:05,029 And we can on the back end of our app we can create sub zones 461 00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:08,569 and tether specific vehicles to a specific zone where we know 462 00:29:08,569 --> 00:29:10,069 we don't want the GM to go to the beach, 463 00:29:10,069 --> 00:29:14,434 for example It could do just, you know wealth and drive area 464 00:29:14,434 --> 00:29:16,659 There's a lot of flexibility in the technology to set 465 00:29:16,659 --> 00:29:17,994 that up however you want. 466 00:29:17,994 --> 00:29:21,319 So maybe worth looking at a second sedan and keep one. 467 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:24,139 GM But there's a lot of things we can do. 468 00:29:24,139 --> 00:29:26,263 And I would say beyond that First car 469 00:29:26,263 --> 00:29:30,469 that we replace there would be an increased cost 470 00:29:30,469 --> 00:29:31,795 to swap out other person. 471 00:29:31,795 --> 00:29:32,700 So right now. 472 00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:35,139 You've got this wait time of 6 or 7 minutes. 473 00:29:35,139 --> 00:29:37,939 That does not include trips that you canceled because the wait 474 00:29:37,939 --> 00:29:38,958 time is too long, obviously. 475 00:29:38,958 --> 00:29:39,458 Right? 476 00:29:39,458 --> 00:29:40,767 Because you couldn't average in a time. 477 00:29:40,767 --> 00:29:43,369 If that the wait didn't happen Yeah 478 00:29:43,369 --> 00:29:46,189 Do you have stats on the number of I I love this. 479 00:29:46,189 --> 00:29:46,849 I love the service. 480 00:29:46,849 --> 00:29:49,009 But there's during peak times more than a few times 481 00:29:49,009 --> 00:29:51,076 i've canceled because it was going to be like 20 482 00:29:51,076 --> 00:29:52,316 minutes or something like that. 483 00:29:52,316 --> 00:29:52,879 And that's what. 484 00:29:52,879 --> 00:29:54,112 Excuse the number down. 485 00:29:54,112 --> 00:29:55,369 No I totally understand. 486 00:29:55,369 --> 00:29:57,139 And it's all fair That's what we're 487 00:29:57,139 --> 00:30:01,519 going to see on some of those five to seven o'clock 488 00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:03,439 hours on a Friday or Saturday. 489 00:30:03,439 --> 00:30:05,569 But you have the data on how many rides you cancel. 490 00:30:05,569 --> 00:30:08,056 We do is it something you can tell us now, 491 00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:08,991 or is that not available? 492 00:30:08,991 --> 00:30:12,769 I mean, it's in we can see on one of these stat lines here, 493 00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:16,849 it shows me say right here, right. 494 00:30:16,849 --> 00:30:21,139 So you see the canceled is basically the difference 495 00:30:21,139 --> 00:30:24,379 between the completed and the total request So the difference 496 00:30:24,379 --> 00:30:27,019 between the light green line and the orange 497 00:30:27,019 --> 00:30:29,719 Right, which looks like it's a significant number, Right. 498 00:30:29,719 --> 00:30:31,699 So it's a transmitter at all canceled. 499 00:30:31,699 --> 00:30:32,659 It's canceled. 500 00:30:32,659 --> 00:30:35,569 Miss canceled by the rider canceled by the driver. 501 00:30:35,569 --> 00:30:37,416 So it's everything rolled up Okay. 502 00:30:37,416 --> 00:30:39,389 We know that was canceled by the driver. 503 00:30:39,389 --> 00:30:39,889 Really? 504 00:30:39,889 --> 00:30:41,012 I mean, that shouldn't. 505 00:30:41,012 --> 00:30:41,779 Yeah, that's happening. 506 00:30:41,779 --> 00:30:41,899 Right. 507 00:30:41,899 --> 00:30:43,099 So canceled by the person. 508 00:30:43,099 --> 00:30:44,899 Yeah, we all know my math up here is not the best. 509 00:30:44,899 --> 00:30:49,327 But looking at the peak from 3900 to 2700, that's Yeah, 510 00:30:49,327 --> 00:30:54,079 it's like 1,200 roughly, which is almost 40% of the things got 511 00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:56,696 canceled, presumably in many cases, because of a long 512 00:30:56,696 --> 00:30:57,679 wait time Yeah. 513 00:30:57,679 --> 00:31:00,589 Is how does our cancellation rate compare to other cities 514 00:31:00,589 --> 00:31:03,709 You guys It's I think it's right on track 515 00:31:03,709 --> 00:31:05,869 with the other cities in this area. 516 00:31:05,869 --> 00:31:07,879 And quite honestly, a lot of this 517 00:31:07,879 --> 00:31:10,399 is a function of just supply and demand that we have 518 00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:13,429 so many requests out of these peak times 519 00:31:13,429 --> 00:31:15,769 that we should have six cars out there where 520 00:31:15,769 --> 00:31:17,296 within the constraints of I realize we're 521 00:31:17,296 --> 00:31:19,429 the ones setting the budget for how many vehicles are out there. 522 00:31:19,429 --> 00:31:21,469 So I'm not holding you back more, but there's other level. 523 00:31:21,469 --> 00:31:23,659 There's other levers to you could increase the cost 524 00:31:23,659 --> 00:31:25,752 on those this Friday Saturday night could be $4 525 00:31:25,752 --> 00:31:27,147 or eight instead of $2. 526 00:31:27,147 --> 00:31:29,143 Right and bring in another car. 527 00:31:29,143 --> 00:31:31,795 Yeah Or bring in another car for certain days. 528 00:31:31,795 --> 00:31:32,295 Yeah. 529 00:31:32,295 --> 00:31:34,159 Yeah So maybe, look, we could potentially 530 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:35,329 look at doing something like that 531 00:31:35,329 --> 00:31:37,279 or if the vehicle is the reason is that one's 532 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:38,749 still see that can be out. 533 00:31:38,749 --> 00:31:41,019 I mean, we can schedule hours during that. 534 00:31:41,019 --> 00:31:43,039 But it's missing two seats for the position 535 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:44,254 but still then has go forward. 536 00:31:44,254 --> 00:31:47,149 Yeah, I mean, it's the driver has asked for two basically. 537 00:31:47,149 --> 00:31:48,344 Yeah Yeah. 538 00:31:48,344 --> 00:31:49,593 As effective as the sedan. 539 00:31:49,593 --> 00:31:51,051 Oh, it's just one seat. 540 00:31:51,051 --> 00:31:51,979 It's just on. 541 00:31:51,979 --> 00:31:54,739 There is a new, a new requirement that there's 542 00:31:54,739 --> 00:31:56,005 only one other seat. 543 00:31:56,005 --> 00:31:56,505 So. 544 00:31:56,505 --> 00:31:58,011 So it only seats one person essentially. 545 00:31:58,011 --> 00:32:01,387 But yeah. 546 00:32:01,387 --> 00:32:01,934 OK. 547 00:32:01,934 --> 00:32:02,480 OK. 548 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,300 What's that? 549 00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:05,899 Clarify it within the rideshare industry 550 00:32:05,899 --> 00:32:08,121 is there a stat like Uber and left 551 00:32:08,121 --> 00:32:09,949 or on a 10% cancellation rate after imagine 552 00:32:09,949 --> 00:32:12,401 it's a fraction of this I'm sure it's a fraction of this. 553 00:32:12,401 --> 00:32:13,923 OK so many more of them out there. 554 00:32:13,923 --> 00:32:15,928 And and their rates are a lot higher. 555 00:32:15,928 --> 00:32:16,459 Yeah. 556 00:32:16,459 --> 00:32:18,441 The they balance everything out with their fares. 557 00:32:18,441 --> 00:32:18,941 Yeah. 558 00:32:18,941 --> 00:32:20,839 Well, it's interesting because we have the Uber ride 559 00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:22,615 discount code on the weekends. 560 00:32:22,615 --> 00:32:25,519 So it's cheaper for, for me often to use the discount 561 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:26,699 code and Uber than it is to me. 562 00:32:26,699 --> 00:32:27,199 Take care. 563 00:32:27,199 --> 00:32:28,132 Circuit when it's to people. 564 00:32:28,132 --> 00:32:30,473 Yeah but, but that's, again that's not, that's not, 565 00:32:30,473 --> 00:32:33,092 that's not if you're on, you know, the fort lot of Dallas 566 00:32:33,092 --> 00:32:34,579 uses circuit right. 567 00:32:34,579 --> 00:32:37,579 Is there any consideration for being able to partner. 568 00:32:37,579 --> 00:32:39,109 So there's like a transfer over to get people 569 00:32:39,109 --> 00:32:41,629 to the beach you know we sort of meet our zones, meet together. 570 00:32:41,629 --> 00:32:42,559 Yeah. 571 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:44,779 I think that I think that's absolutely 572 00:32:44,779 --> 00:32:45,799 a discussion to be had. 573 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:47,539 And we have a great relationship with the city. 574 00:32:47,539 --> 00:32:49,609 We're already crossing I mean, we're 575 00:32:49,609 --> 00:32:54,919 doing everything from galt Mile Lauderdale by the sea 576 00:32:54,919 --> 00:32:56,299 so we're going pretty far down. 577 00:32:56,299 --> 00:33:00,709 There is a little bit of a gap south of Oakland Park Boulevard 578 00:33:00,709 --> 00:33:02,299 but we're covering most of it. 579 00:33:02,299 --> 00:33:04,669 And I think that there'd be open to that discussion. 580 00:33:04,669 --> 00:33:06,349 And it's an easy transfer even going from here, 581 00:33:06,349 --> 00:33:08,865 say, to like Los all us right or something like that. 582 00:33:08,865 --> 00:33:11,192 Potentially we could if they meet that instance, 583 00:33:11,192 --> 00:33:12,734 I would definitely recommend. 584 00:33:12,734 --> 00:33:14,539 OK Vans or SUVs. 585 00:33:14,539 --> 00:33:15,628 We're doing all those now. 586 00:33:15,628 --> 00:33:16,128 OK. 587 00:33:16,128 --> 00:33:17,903 Because I think I think I think if our cancellation 588 00:33:17,903 --> 00:33:18,566 rates so high. 589 00:33:18,566 --> 00:33:20,222 It is to have a vehicle be gone to go 590 00:33:20,222 --> 00:33:22,009 to the beach to take it out of commission for 15, 591 00:33:22,009 --> 00:33:23,329 20 minutes is too much. 592 00:33:23,329 --> 00:33:25,999 But if there's a partnership with Fort Lauderdale, you know, 593 00:33:25,999 --> 00:33:27,146 their businesses are benefiting or 594 00:33:27,146 --> 00:33:28,429 the beach is benefiting, that may 595 00:33:28,429 --> 00:33:29,779 be something we're considering. 596 00:33:29,779 --> 00:33:31,639 I would just note, I don't think the beach 597 00:33:31,639 --> 00:33:34,686 trips would be impact that much because during the day. 598 00:33:34,686 --> 00:33:36,289 We're not that busy We get busy at night 599 00:33:36,289 --> 00:33:38,479 and that car would be onto necessarily going 600 00:33:38,479 --> 00:33:39,739 to the beach at night or I didn't 601 00:33:39,739 --> 00:33:42,742 envision it doing that more for daytime beach trips. 602 00:33:42,742 --> 00:33:43,309 It's interesting. 603 00:33:43,309 --> 00:33:45,229 But anyway, the and i probably I've 604 00:33:45,229 --> 00:33:47,215 just had a One off random experience, 605 00:33:47,215 --> 00:33:48,877 but a lot of times when i've gone to use it, 606 00:33:48,877 --> 00:33:50,344 which were not peak hours, you know I guess. 607 00:33:50,344 --> 00:33:53,419 Yeah five, maybe five minutes to get in there, you know. 608 00:33:53,419 --> 00:33:55,909 But I think that that's still a beach time, at least 609 00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:56,809 coming back from the beach. 610 00:33:56,809 --> 00:34:00,596 But you know, so it's something to look into Lastly, we have 611 00:34:00,596 --> 00:34:03,426 a basically like a revenue share type contract radio 612 00:34:03,426 --> 00:34:04,726 and that includes everything, including 613 00:34:04,726 --> 00:34:07,069 the wrapping of vehicle is digital that or the advertising, 614 00:34:07,069 --> 00:34:08,809 etc. 615 00:34:08,809 --> 00:34:10,042 How much in digital this. 616 00:34:10,042 --> 00:34:11,208 Maybe I should question for him. 617 00:34:11,208 --> 00:34:13,825 How much in digital ads have you run in your app next? 618 00:34:13,825 --> 00:34:14,923 Did not notice visual ads. 619 00:34:14,923 --> 00:34:17,611 Not much Yeah Yeah your the wrapping I think is a fair price 620 00:34:17,611 --> 00:34:18,966 your rate for those digital ads. 621 00:34:18,966 --> 00:34:20,749 I got it's absolutely ludicrous. 622 00:34:20,749 --> 00:34:22,699 It's not at all competitive in the market at all. 623 00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:24,315 It's like wildly gone you know. 624 00:34:24,315 --> 00:34:26,037 But i think that's a real opportunity, you know, 625 00:34:26,037 --> 00:34:26,787 to look at that. 626 00:34:26,787 --> 00:34:28,729 I'll, I'll speak I'll win on that one. 627 00:34:28,729 --> 00:34:31,329 Thanks for the feedback I kind of love it. 628 00:34:31,329 --> 00:34:32,029 Think it's great. 629 00:34:32,029 --> 00:34:33,169 It's really an awesome addition. 630 00:34:33,169 --> 00:34:33,669 Thank you. 631 00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:35,389 And I'm happy to set up a meeting with the city 632 00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:39,739 of Fort Lauderdale just to note their service right now is free. 633 00:34:39,739 --> 00:34:41,539 We're trying to get them to turn off around, 634 00:34:41,539 --> 00:34:43,729 so maybe this would be a good opportunity 635 00:34:43,729 --> 00:34:46,039 to make some connections there. 636 00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:49,639 But thank you so much I think everybody in the city 637 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,471 uses circuit, really enjoys it. 638 00:34:51,471 --> 00:34:55,249 I think all of us here have used it to go somewhere in the city. 639 00:34:55,249 --> 00:34:58,016 So keep up the good work Thank you so much. 640 00:34:58,016 --> 00:34:58,549 Thank you, dear. 641 00:34:58,549 --> 00:35:02,299 You too All right. 642 00:35:02,299 --> 00:35:04,819 One of the things I want to say before coming to the public 643 00:35:04,819 --> 00:35:08,460 not last Sunday was Navy Week. 644 00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:11,959 And Cathy from overseas cafe on Oakland Park. 645 00:35:11,959 --> 00:35:16,039 She's a well-mannered She got together with me. 646 00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:19,163 And we with the city manager. 647 00:35:19,163 --> 00:35:21,996 And we got the Hague and Park here 648 00:35:21,996 --> 00:35:26,739 and we served Hundreds sailors for dinner a week Sunday. 649 00:35:26,739 --> 00:35:32,389 And after that, Nora and I went to 25 sailors 650 00:35:32,389 --> 00:35:34,609 and went down the drive and showed them 651 00:35:34,609 --> 00:35:38,899 the drive and the different bars and what a what a great time 652 00:35:38,899 --> 00:35:42,529 they had going down Wilton Drive and seeing 653 00:35:42,529 --> 00:35:46,549 the support and the smiles and the come on in. 654 00:35:46,549 --> 00:35:49,249 Let's get you a drink, you know, and let's have a shot at 655 00:35:49,249 --> 00:35:50,419 and blah, blah, blah. 656 00:35:50,419 --> 00:35:54,469 And by 10:00, some of the people that were 657 00:35:54,469 --> 00:35:55,849 in the Navy here, they were like, 658 00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:57,736 I'm a little nervous going in. 659 00:35:57,736 --> 00:36:00,966 And this and that and the other By the other night. 660 00:36:00,966 --> 00:36:04,159 This one big burly navy man, he comes up to me goes, 661 00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:08,479 This is the best night I've ever had in my life 662 00:36:08,479 --> 00:36:13,682 So the warmth and the and that what the people have, 663 00:36:13,682 --> 00:36:16,249 what manners do to make life just better 664 00:36:16,249 --> 00:36:18,199 here proved that that night when we 665 00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:20,089 went around with those sailors and did that. 666 00:36:20,089 --> 00:36:24,889 So all the bars and restaurants that asked us to come in 667 00:36:24,889 --> 00:36:26,719 and gave them food and gave them drink, 668 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,279 I went to thank them all for what they did for our servicemen 669 00:36:31,279 --> 00:36:33,049 that put on their lives, for their lives 670 00:36:33,049 --> 00:36:35,299 in line to protect our country. 671 00:36:35,299 --> 00:36:38,389 And I just want to make sure everybody knew that Kathy 672 00:36:38,389 --> 00:36:41,029 from over E-Z cafe is the one that put that on, got 673 00:36:41,029 --> 00:36:43,879 all the food donated, got all the booze donated for him, 674 00:36:43,879 --> 00:36:46,009 and it was a wonderful night. 675 00:36:46,009 --> 00:36:49,309 So i think everybody who got involved in it. 676 00:36:49,309 --> 00:36:50,449 Thank you. 677 00:36:50,449 --> 00:36:52,669 All right Comments from the public, anyone from the poet 678 00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:57,289 come up and speaks, please state your name and your address. 679 00:36:57,289 --> 00:36:59,839 And you have three minutes. 680 00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:03,079 Hi, Jubal Singer 411 Northeast 27th Street. 681 00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:08,719 Will banners I have and keeping theme tonight 682 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,999 with our lovely entertainer at district 683 00:37:10,999 --> 00:37:13,489 and also our public safety. 684 00:37:13,489 --> 00:37:16,519 I think that's what makes Wilton Manors special here. 685 00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:18,649 So we designed an app. 686 00:37:18,649 --> 00:37:23,119 It's called Wilton Drive It's on currently available on iPhone 687 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:24,739 and Android iD. 688 00:37:24,739 --> 00:37:27,589 We're in what's called a soft launch because we're past beta 689 00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:29,089 but you can download it. 690 00:37:29,089 --> 00:37:32,359 We're in the process of adding content to it. 691 00:37:32,359 --> 00:37:35,689 The app has local business profiles 692 00:37:35,689 --> 00:37:41,779 It has nonprofit resource a feature 693 00:37:41,779 --> 00:37:44,539 as well as a public safety feature 694 00:37:44,539 --> 00:37:48,598 and we took the public safety program Safe Places. 695 00:37:48,598 --> 00:37:50,063 And put it in. 696 00:37:50,063 --> 00:37:53,959 You can hit the button, and it says to the local businesses 697 00:37:53,959 --> 00:37:57,122 that are part of the program. 698 00:37:57,122 --> 00:38:01,339 And it's an app for economic development and public safety, 699 00:38:01,339 --> 00:38:05,329 but it's also wrapped in it has a yearly calendar of events 700 00:38:05,329 --> 00:38:07,609 for the entertainment district or things that are happening 701 00:38:07,609 --> 00:38:11,329 in the city this way, users will keep coming back because they're 702 00:38:11,329 --> 00:38:13,459 used to they want to go to the calendar 703 00:38:13,459 --> 00:38:15,949 right now we're partnering with chambers of Commerce 704 00:38:15,949 --> 00:38:20,689 to upload businesses and events to pad it with content. 705 00:38:20,689 --> 00:38:23,329 So we'll be officially launched in about three months. 706 00:38:23,329 --> 00:38:25,939 But you can download it now and look at the safe place feature 707 00:38:25,939 --> 00:38:26,569 and check it out. 708 00:38:26,569 --> 00:38:28,789 But it's not official yet. 709 00:38:28,789 --> 00:38:31,759 Also we are offering the city and our partnership 710 00:38:31,759 --> 00:38:33,739 I met with the city manager, Leanne, 711 00:38:33,739 --> 00:38:37,459 and out of that meeting we decided that we were offer 712 00:38:37,459 --> 00:38:40,429 the city and our partnership like 30 free profiles 713 00:38:40,429 --> 00:38:42,937 for their departments, police department 714 00:38:42,937 --> 00:38:44,827 parks and recreations, etc. 715 00:38:44,827 --> 00:38:45,961 In exchange. 716 00:38:45,961 --> 00:38:48,591 We were hoping to work with the police department 717 00:38:48,591 --> 00:38:51,889 and videotape the safe Place program 718 00:38:51,889 --> 00:38:54,829 and put it in the app for on demand video 719 00:38:54,829 --> 00:38:58,057 like you do college courses so that business and restaurants 720 00:38:58,057 --> 00:39:01,789 can keep their employees up to date by watching the video 721 00:39:01,789 --> 00:39:05,899 to keep the Safe Place program Very active and compliant, 722 00:39:05,899 --> 00:39:09,387 but also the app will absorb all liability 723 00:39:09,387 --> 00:39:10,909 So I know that's another issue. 724 00:39:10,909 --> 00:39:11,779 Public Safety liability. 725 00:39:11,779 --> 00:39:14,299 So that's why I gave the city manager City Attorney, 726 00:39:14,299 --> 00:39:16,939 you have a copy of the proposal All key people have 727 00:39:16,939 --> 00:39:19,759 a copy of the proposal tonight and I'm 728 00:39:19,759 --> 00:39:21,829 hoping to move forward working with the city 729 00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:23,119 and increase the Safe Place program, 730 00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:27,079 also working with Seattle, where the city worked 731 00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:29,119 with to get the program from. 732 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:32,751 And they have over 400 cities that are in this program. 733 00:39:32,751 --> 00:39:36,199 So if I succeed or we succeed in what matters, 734 00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,109 imagine what this can do for the rest of the cities 735 00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:42,199 in the programs So I just wanted to share 736 00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:43,339 all that with you today. 737 00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:45,889 Again if you download it, please be a little forgiving. 738 00:39:45,889 --> 00:39:48,859 We got a couple more months before it's actually complete. 739 00:39:48,859 --> 00:39:49,789 Thank you very much. 740 00:39:49,789 --> 00:39:50,959 Thank you. 741 00:39:50,959 --> 00:40:06,439 Anyone else want to come up and speak Good evening, Adrian Folan 742 00:40:06,439 --> 00:40:09,139 440, Northeast 23rd Street. 743 00:40:09,139 --> 00:40:12,229 I was just reviewing the calendar. 744 00:40:12,229 --> 00:40:16,999 The agenda and I'm glad to see under the unfinished business 745 00:40:16,999 --> 00:40:19,579 the talk about the rezoning and the land 746 00:40:19,579 --> 00:40:23,899 use It's great that I'm that we're having this conversation 747 00:40:23,899 --> 00:40:26,119 because when I meet with developers, 748 00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,279 I always have to talk about the land 749 00:40:28,279 --> 00:40:32,719 use zoning and the current use zoning 750 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,219 or like the future land use. 751 00:40:34,219 --> 00:40:37,519 And this and that and you know, I thank God Roberta and her team 752 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:40,549 are always available to like help me talk with people 753 00:40:40,549 --> 00:40:42,802 on what does it mean. 754 00:40:42,802 --> 00:40:45,349 And how do you manage that difference. 755 00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:48,259 So I'm really happy to see that we're going to talk about this 756 00:40:48,259 --> 00:40:51,289 and get them all in synchronized fashion 757 00:40:51,289 --> 00:40:53,299 in the different spot areas where 758 00:40:53,299 --> 00:40:55,819 we have this like ambiguity. 759 00:40:55,819 --> 00:40:57,259 Thank you. 760 00:40:57,259 --> 00:41:10,999 Thank you Robert. 761 00:41:10,999 --> 00:41:13,039 Mr. Robert, had they called Angels National catholic Church 762 00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:18,559 at 1436 Northeast 26th Avenue, What matters a month ago 763 00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:20,496 November My parish is registered in Ward, 764 00:41:20,496 --> 00:41:23,569 something we talked about prepared for However, 765 00:41:23,569 --> 00:41:26,309 we couldn't prepare for what happened 766 00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:27,109 the rest of the meeting. 767 00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:28,999 A Sunday night and think leads me 768 00:41:28,999 --> 00:41:32,404 to Sunday night's a person i see a judge the morning, we wind up. 769 00:41:32,404 --> 00:41:35,599 Thanks to the kindness of officer Steven and Julio 770 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:37,849 that person of a person was taken to fiancee 771 00:41:37,849 --> 00:41:39,340 so their personal belongings should be taken 772 00:41:39,340 --> 00:41:41,599 and i have to go to the county jail, lock up. 773 00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,249 The officer was very kind and made 774 00:41:43,249 --> 00:41:44,599 the ride to the jail pleasant and not 775 00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:45,439 a frightening experience. 776 00:41:45,439 --> 00:41:49,099 So thank you, Chief especially Officer steve and Angela. 777 00:41:49,099 --> 00:41:53,779 Go team care and compassion in the service of what matters 778 00:41:53,779 --> 00:42:04,609 Thank you Anyone else like to speak 779 00:42:04,609 --> 00:42:08,719 Good evening Mike Sense of our 1425 northeast 23rd Street. 780 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,319 I too. 781 00:42:09,319 --> 00:42:13,849 By the way, that sounds like a great app That dude mentioned. 782 00:42:13,849 --> 00:42:21,484 I too to was going to address item 11 be the rezoning as did 783 00:42:21,484 --> 00:42:26,869 my colleague I actually live in that zone middle river plaza i 784 00:42:26,869 --> 00:42:30,079 live on northeast 23rd between where 785 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:35,398 the metropolitan is and 15 while you know 786 00:42:35,398 --> 00:42:37,969 my home is an r d ten zone. 787 00:42:37,969 --> 00:42:41,419 It's actually land use tosee you know, 788 00:42:41,419 --> 00:42:43,879 I think it's good that the commission go 789 00:42:43,879 --> 00:42:46,159 through the various subdivisions of the city 790 00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:48,829 and try to make sense The patchwork 791 00:42:48,829 --> 00:42:52,206 and the mismatching of zoning with land use. 792 00:42:52,206 --> 00:42:52,939 Appreciate it. 793 00:42:52,939 --> 00:42:55,729 Makes sense of it, especially for developers. 794 00:42:55,729 --> 00:42:59,179 And we're very keen on trying to get development 795 00:42:59,179 --> 00:43:01,309 moving for our tax base. 796 00:43:01,309 --> 00:43:04,999 So where i live in that little section, 797 00:43:04,999 --> 00:43:08,719 I would say it's 90% duplexes. 798 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,549 I can think of maybe six single family homes 799 00:43:13,549 --> 00:43:15,979 listed as a single family home. 800 00:43:15,979 --> 00:43:20,419 But I think every home on my block and including a duplex 801 00:43:20,419 --> 00:43:24,349 townhomes, I think on 24th there's a couple of single 802 00:43:24,349 --> 00:43:26,449 family homes, but not many. 803 00:43:26,449 --> 00:43:31,399 So changing it to Tosa East would make sense. 804 00:43:31,399 --> 00:43:33,979 Also brings in column Sachi and the piece of property 805 00:43:33,979 --> 00:43:36,769 that the city owns There and we give the city 806 00:43:36,769 --> 00:43:38,509 more options for that property. 807 00:43:38,509 --> 00:43:42,352 So i'm in favor of this I would like to hear 808 00:43:42,352 --> 00:43:44,209 future discussion on this. 809 00:43:44,209 --> 00:43:48,379 And I also think other areas of city should be examined for, 810 00:43:48,379 --> 00:43:50,479 you know making more sense of what 811 00:43:50,479 --> 00:43:54,319 seems to be somewhat of an arc you know, 812 00:43:54,319 --> 00:43:57,169 system of zoning and land use. 813 00:43:57,169 --> 00:43:59,419 Thank you Thank you. 814 00:43:59,419 --> 00:44:02,706 Anyone else like to speak I see none. 815 00:44:02,706 --> 00:44:07,189 Not close to public hearing reports from boards Introduction 816 00:44:07,189 --> 00:44:10,519 and update by Parks and Recreation Board. 817 00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:16,219 I think, John, you're the leader of the board Come on up. 818 00:44:16,219 --> 00:44:19,349 Former Mayor Bill mears. 819 00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:19,849 Thank you. 820 00:44:19,849 --> 00:44:22,579 Mayor John Fiore I share the Parks 821 00:44:22,579 --> 00:44:25,069 Rec Recreation Advisory board. 822 00:44:25,069 --> 00:44:29,539 I'm very honored to do it to assist our outstanding Parks 823 00:44:29,539 --> 00:44:35,269 and Rec staff to have a improve and improve the quality 824 00:44:35,269 --> 00:44:37,759 of our parks and to the services that we provide 825 00:44:37,759 --> 00:44:38,986 to our residents and guests. 826 00:44:38,986 --> 00:44:40,766 And they do a great job. 827 00:44:40,766 --> 00:44:43,549 This last year, we had a number of accomplishments. 828 00:44:43,549 --> 00:44:45,709 I'd like to go over quickly with you. 829 00:44:45,709 --> 00:44:48,859 We reviewed and approved the co-sponsorship, 830 00:44:48,859 --> 00:44:52,810 including events like the plays of Walton our son 831 00:44:52,810 --> 00:44:54,945 serve and legacy builders. 832 00:44:54,945 --> 00:44:57,829 We reviewed and make recommendations for the approval 833 00:44:57,829 --> 00:45:01,911 of the park name change from Island City Park Reserve 834 00:45:01,911 --> 00:45:05,599 to Stafford Park reviewed and made individual recommendations 835 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:10,369 regarding the legal services fee schedule review nominations 836 00:45:10,369 --> 00:45:13,489 for the levers leisure Services, employee of the quarter 837 00:45:13,489 --> 00:45:15,709 and selected winners for each quarter 838 00:45:15,709 --> 00:45:17,359 And that was really difficult because we have 839 00:45:17,359 --> 00:45:19,159 really great employees there. 840 00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:23,539 We really do We also propose ideas for future events and park 841 00:45:23,539 --> 00:45:27,559 design Review leaves are services updates including 842 00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:32,539 incoming programs special events and ongoing improvement projects 843 00:45:32,539 --> 00:45:36,409 and finally reviewed the rules and regulation for what matters 844 00:45:36,409 --> 00:45:40,759 parks and recreation facilities And that is 845 00:45:40,759 --> 00:45:43,037 our contribution for the year. 846 00:45:43,037 --> 00:45:43,537 All right. 847 00:45:43,537 --> 00:45:45,649 We're doing more of them for you next year 848 00:45:45,649 --> 00:45:50,407 Thank Any questions for John Thank you for your service. 849 00:45:50,407 --> 00:45:56,699 John are all your board members here This one. 850 00:45:56,699 --> 00:45:59,779 This one, do do. 851 00:45:59,779 --> 00:46:00,286 Oh. 852 00:46:00,286 --> 00:46:01,227 Oh yeah. 853 00:46:01,227 --> 00:46:02,277 Robert That's right. 854 00:46:02,277 --> 00:46:02,802 Yeah. 855 00:46:02,802 --> 00:46:05,329 Well, I have some specific appreciation for you 856 00:46:05,329 --> 00:46:07,773 and I'll get you your three that are here. 857 00:46:07,773 --> 00:46:09,139 Elena, Robert. 858 00:46:09,139 --> 00:46:16,623 John, come on up Thank you, John. 859 00:46:16,623 --> 00:46:29,059 This is John Thank you, Elena You. 860 00:46:29,059 --> 00:46:40,579 You And think about your on your board. 861 00:46:40,579 --> 00:46:45,328 You know, we started the nonprofit works 862 00:46:45,328 --> 00:46:51,889 so the city can step off the board and things 863 00:46:51,889 --> 00:47:33,691 like this You you Already consent 864 00:47:33,691 --> 00:47:38,500 and any we hold your in one motion. 865 00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:40,754 I'll make the motion there a second. 866 00:47:40,754 --> 00:47:41,317 Second. 867 00:47:41,317 --> 00:47:43,773 I will second it. 868 00:47:43,773 --> 00:47:48,239 All right Call the first by vice mayor caputo. 869 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:48,739 Yes. 870 00:47:48,739 --> 00:47:51,659 Commissioner Dominio Yes, Commissioner Rocky. 871 00:47:51,659 --> 00:47:52,159 Yes. 872 00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:52,859 Commissioner Rowley? 873 00:47:52,859 --> 00:47:53,359 Yes. 874 00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:56,029 I may renew in all right. 875 00:47:56,029 --> 00:48:00,679 Ordinance First Reading Ordinance 2020 5-003. 876 00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:08,899 Please read an ordinance of the City Commission of the city 877 00:48:08,899 --> 00:48:11,359 of Wilton Manors, Florida Approving and authorizing 878 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:14,179 the proper city officials of the city of Wilton Manors 879 00:48:14,179 --> 00:48:17,659 to execute a charging station lease agreement. 880 00:48:17,659 --> 00:48:23,299 An addendum with Abco Services lLC for an Eva charging platform 881 00:48:23,299 --> 00:48:25,519 at City hall, providing for a complex, 882 00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:28,515 providing for severability and providing for an effective date. 883 00:48:28,515 --> 00:48:29,179 Thank you. 884 00:48:29,179 --> 00:48:29,972 You. 885 00:48:29,972 --> 00:48:32,749 There a motion? 886 00:48:32,749 --> 00:48:35,099 I'll make the motion for a second. 887 00:48:35,099 --> 00:48:35,599 I will. 888 00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,119 Second City Manager Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 889 00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,729 This project came out of the city's goal 890 00:48:40,729 --> 00:48:44,239 of providing additional electric vehicle charging stations 891 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,869 for our community, as well as identifying ongoing revenue 892 00:48:47,869 --> 00:48:51,439 sources This ordinance authorizes a lease agreement 893 00:48:51,439 --> 00:48:54,139 with each to provide electric vehicle 894 00:48:54,139 --> 00:48:57,786 charging stations at the city hall and Hagan Park parking lot. 895 00:48:57,786 --> 00:48:58,798 Under the agreement. 896 00:48:58,798 --> 00:49:03,049 If we go with lease Eleven parking spaces in the very rear 897 00:49:03,049 --> 00:49:07,549 of the lot adjacent to the volleyball courts to provide 898 00:49:07,549 --> 00:49:09,739 the modern electric charging stations, 899 00:49:09,739 --> 00:49:12,859 the three spots that they currently use adjacent to Walton 900 00:49:12,859 --> 00:49:16,099 Drive will be converted back to public parking Under 901 00:49:16,099 --> 00:49:18,109 the agreement, the city will receive 902 00:49:18,109 --> 00:49:23,479 revenue per space the first year revenue is $39,600. 903 00:49:23,479 --> 00:49:26,840 That will increase by 3% every year of the contract. 904 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,679 It's a 15 year term at the end of the 15th year, 905 00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:34,009 the city will have received over 736,000 906 00:49:34,009 --> 00:49:36,409 in revenue and the agreement can be extended 907 00:49:36,409 --> 00:49:38,453 an additional Five years. 908 00:49:38,453 --> 00:49:42,389 The question is for city manager. 909 00:49:42,389 --> 00:49:42,889 Good. 910 00:49:42,889 --> 00:49:44,090 Good. 911 00:49:44,090 --> 00:49:47,719 Yet Thank you building. 912 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:54,469 It's our it was on to back okay yes 913 00:49:54,469 --> 00:50:00,079 bad so I had a couple of questions and comments 914 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,529 I guess on page one eight of the package. 915 00:50:02,529 --> 00:50:05,869 It's the staff report under item D, 916 00:50:05,869 --> 00:50:11,059 it talks about ten additional EV charging stations. 917 00:50:11,059 --> 00:50:13,819 And just for the record, I don't think that's correct 918 00:50:13,819 --> 00:50:17,179 So we already have we have three currently. 919 00:50:17,179 --> 00:50:20,629 We're going to 11, so I guess that's eight additional. 920 00:50:20,629 --> 00:50:22,133 We have one station. 921 00:50:22,133 --> 00:50:27,685 But it takes three spaces Right now, I see. 922 00:50:27,685 --> 00:50:28,561 OK. 923 00:50:28,561 --> 00:50:32,239 So so we are going to 11. 924 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:40,949 How many vehicle charging stations will there be ? 925 00:50:40,949 --> 00:50:41,449 Good evening. 926 00:50:41,449 --> 00:50:41,949 Deal. 927 00:50:41,949 --> 00:50:44,509 Sanchez Human Resources Director, The plan 928 00:50:44,509 --> 00:50:46,939 is to build a new chartstring station 929 00:50:46,939 --> 00:50:49,274 They will take 11 spaces. 930 00:50:49,274 --> 00:50:51,859 It will be ten charging stations capable of charging 931 00:50:51,859 --> 00:50:53,569 ten vehicles at a time. 932 00:50:53,569 --> 00:50:57,229 The 11 space will be utilized to create two ADA 933 00:50:57,229 --> 00:50:59,899 accessible charging stations. 934 00:50:59,899 --> 00:51:04,789 This charging station currently charges one vehicle at a time 935 00:51:04,789 --> 00:51:07,369 but does take three parking spaces. 936 00:51:07,369 --> 00:51:11,179 One said station is built, this will be eliminated and converted 937 00:51:11,179 --> 00:51:13,219 back to regular parking. 938 00:51:13,219 --> 00:51:18,379 So we are going from one charging station to ten. 939 00:51:18,379 --> 00:51:19,819 That is correct. 940 00:51:19,819 --> 00:51:20,539 OK. 941 00:51:20,539 --> 00:51:27,889 I guess i guess my concern we're taking up 11 and park iNG spaces 942 00:51:27,889 --> 00:51:31,039 and then we also have five spaces 943 00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:32,630 being utilized for circuit. 944 00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:40,189 It's 16 parking spaces I guess I'm just concerned about using 945 00:51:40,189 --> 00:51:44,989 up so many parking spaces for charging stations You know, 946 00:51:44,989 --> 00:51:49,534 it wasn't that long ago that we just paid $1 million to put 23 947 00:51:49,534 --> 00:51:53,404 parking spaces on 11th Avenue. 948 00:51:53,404 --> 00:51:57,559 And here we using up 16 of them to do we 949 00:51:57,559 --> 00:51:59,779 know why we need to go from 1 to 10. 950 00:51:59,779 --> 00:52:04,039 It just seems like a very large jump and it's a very long term. 951 00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:06,199 It's a 15 year lease. 952 00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:07,639 There's two reasons. 953 00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:11,524 One, there is a lot of demand for electric vehicle charging 954 00:52:11,524 --> 00:52:13,669 at times we have up to five vehicles 955 00:52:13,669 --> 00:52:17,869 right now in looking at proposals 956 00:52:17,869 --> 00:52:21,319 from different companies This will not cost the city anything, 957 00:52:21,319 --> 00:52:24,799 but there is a an investment from every go. 958 00:52:24,799 --> 00:52:29,629 So in order for them to be able to offer the charging stations 959 00:52:29,629 --> 00:52:33,019 at no cost to the city, it does require the commitment 960 00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:34,759 of the charging stations. 961 00:52:34,759 --> 00:52:36,784 And for that period of time, it just 962 00:52:36,784 --> 00:52:38,899 seems like a very long lease. 963 00:52:38,899 --> 00:52:41,959 We actually reduced that it was a bit longer 964 00:52:41,959 --> 00:52:46,759 and a higher amount, so we we asked for the 15 year option 965 00:52:46,759 --> 00:52:49,703 with lower rates to cancel. 966 00:52:49,703 --> 00:52:53,959 And it does reduce if we do need to cancel. 967 00:52:53,959 --> 00:52:55,549 We also have a provision in there 968 00:52:55,549 --> 00:52:58,099 that if we decide to redevelop this property 969 00:52:58,099 --> 00:53:00,709 the city does have the option to relocate those Chargers 970 00:53:00,709 --> 00:53:05,839 to another location throughout the city at our expense contract 971 00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:08,539 and not pay the cancellation fee. 972 00:53:08,539 --> 00:53:10,189 I understand the revenue. 973 00:53:10,189 --> 00:53:13,849 We're saying is 39,600 for the first year. 974 00:53:13,849 --> 00:53:15,919 Do we know what the loss to the revenue 975 00:53:15,919 --> 00:53:18,109 is from the parking meter income? 976 00:53:18,109 --> 00:53:20,629 Absolutely. 977 00:53:20,629 --> 00:53:24,169 We used that area because it's one of the most underutilized 978 00:53:24,169 --> 00:53:26,149 areas of the parking lot. 979 00:53:26,149 --> 00:53:28,879 It's usually busy Friday and Saturday nights, 980 00:53:28,879 --> 00:53:31,789 but not during the week We anticipated 981 00:53:31,789 --> 00:53:37,549 occupying less than 25% of the year over the period 982 00:53:37,549 --> 00:53:39,379 of the term of this lease. 983 00:53:39,379 --> 00:53:41,539 It would be $262,000. 984 00:53:41,539 --> 00:53:44,719 If we assume those all those parking spaces 985 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,849 utilize at 25% of the time. 986 00:53:46,849 --> 00:53:48,559 I'm sorry, that's over the term of the lease. 987 00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:50,929 And what would the revenue be Over the terminal 988 00:53:50,929 --> 00:53:54,049 So that would be the loss of parking. 989 00:53:54,049 --> 00:53:56,509 If we use it strictly for parking and not charging. 990 00:53:56,509 --> 00:54:00,949 So 262,000 is the loss and the total 991 00:54:00,949 --> 00:54:05,347 revenue 700 and something The 15 year, 992 00:54:05,347 --> 00:54:07,266 it would be over 700, 700,000. 993 00:54:07,266 --> 00:54:10,489 OK So it's like a $500,000 increase? 994 00:54:10,489 --> 00:54:11,209 Yes. 995 00:54:11,209 --> 00:54:16,519 And would this where would this revenue 996 00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:20,419 go in the budget It would go to the general fund 997 00:54:20,419 --> 00:54:23,479 because the parking of the property itself 998 00:54:23,479 --> 00:54:26,120 is owned by the general fund. 999 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,979 So it would go back to the general fund 1000 00:54:27,979 --> 00:54:33,319 I would expect it to go to the parking and mobility fund. 1001 00:54:33,319 --> 00:54:35,509 That's where the revenue currently is going Right. 1002 00:54:35,509 --> 00:54:40,669 For the 260,000 currently goes to the parking and mobility. 1003 00:54:40,669 --> 00:54:43,369 That's the potential that we could be losing it. 1004 00:54:43,369 --> 00:54:45,399 I'm not saying that that's what we're bringing in right now. 1005 00:54:45,399 --> 00:54:46,099 That's the potential. 1006 00:54:46,099 --> 00:54:48,273 If it were utilized at 25% of the time. 1007 00:54:48,273 --> 00:54:48,773 Right. 1008 00:54:48,773 --> 00:54:50,989 But anyway revenue that's brought in from parking 1009 00:54:50,989 --> 00:54:54,349 would go to the transportation and mobility and parking. 1010 00:54:54,349 --> 00:54:57,696 Yes So you're saying this would not go there. 1011 00:54:57,696 --> 00:54:59,989 So it would go to the general fund? 1012 00:54:59,989 --> 00:55:01,472 Yes, sir OK. 1013 00:55:01,472 --> 00:55:02,970 We could split it, too. 1014 00:55:02,970 --> 00:55:05,719 I mean, what why would it go to the general fund? 1015 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,429 It's a it's a lease. 1016 00:55:07,429 --> 00:55:11,681 The essentially paying to lease the space. 1017 00:55:11,681 --> 00:55:12,709 We could transfer that. 1018 00:55:12,709 --> 00:55:15,109 We could make it the payment transfer back to the parking 1019 00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:15,739 fund or something. 1020 00:55:15,739 --> 00:55:17,672 I mean, that's something a commission would decide, right? 1021 00:55:17,672 --> 00:55:19,669 Yes Yeah, that's just our recommendation. 1022 00:55:19,669 --> 00:55:20,629 It's a commission decision. 1023 00:55:20,629 --> 00:55:23,299 It's a policy decision of how the revenue is allocated. 1024 00:55:23,299 --> 00:55:24,739 But we would recommend general fund 1025 00:55:24,739 --> 00:55:26,869 because it's a lease of the space in line 1026 00:55:26,869 --> 00:55:30,289 with just in line with that, the spot that Ethan rents, 1027 00:55:30,289 --> 00:55:32,274 Where does that go to leave? 1028 00:55:32,274 --> 00:55:36,019 That is if that's a lease, that's parking. 1029 00:55:36,019 --> 00:55:37,909 But they're leasing a parking spot. 1030 00:55:37,909 --> 00:55:42,229 Why would that be different I'm just throwing it out there. 1031 00:55:42,229 --> 00:55:43,609 I'm not committed one way or another. 1032 00:55:43,609 --> 00:55:47,191 I just think that's for consistency purposes Yeah. 1033 00:55:47,191 --> 00:55:47,691 Yeah. 1034 00:55:47,691 --> 00:55:49,909 And we don't it's not like, you know 1035 00:55:49,909 --> 00:55:51,706 so we're saying because we own this, 1036 00:55:51,706 --> 00:55:52,939 that we're getting the lease payment. 1037 00:55:52,939 --> 00:55:55,099 But we don't get a payment for those other spaces that 1038 00:55:55,099 --> 00:55:56,089 are in the parking program. 1039 00:55:56,089 --> 00:55:56,589 Right? 1040 00:55:56,589 --> 00:55:59,809 So it's, it's really one doesn't lease from the general fund. 1041 00:55:59,809 --> 00:56:01,999 So you you're correct. 1042 00:56:01,999 --> 00:56:05,187 The parking fund is not least the space from the general fund. 1043 00:56:05,187 --> 00:56:05,687 OK. 1044 00:56:05,687 --> 00:56:08,149 It ultimately, it's a commission decision. 1045 00:56:08,149 --> 00:56:09,919 As I say, we can put it where we want to put it. 1046 00:56:09,919 --> 00:56:11,822 So we. 1047 00:56:11,822 --> 00:56:13,702 Okay, there's something I wanted to bring back 1048 00:56:13,702 --> 00:56:15,199 where the money's going to go. 1049 00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:17,389 If it all going to go to parking or is going to be split 1050 00:56:17,389 --> 00:56:23,954 or whatever it might be that has to be decided tonight 1051 00:56:23,954 --> 00:56:26,087 You know, for me, if I was going to approve something like this, 1052 00:56:26,087 --> 00:56:27,425 I would want to, frankly know that it 1053 00:56:27,425 --> 00:56:28,615 was going to go to the parking. 1054 00:56:28,615 --> 00:56:31,842 I think it's sort of unfair to the residents to take that away. 1055 00:56:31,842 --> 00:56:33,709 It's like a loss in revenue to parking, which, you know, 1056 00:56:33,709 --> 00:56:35,269 is supposed to pay for more parking 1057 00:56:35,269 --> 00:56:37,386 or for certain underwrite circuit so we could 1058 00:56:37,386 --> 00:56:38,719 get another circuit vehicle or something 1059 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,159 like that That is for me. 1060 00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:41,989 Yeah, I would agree with that. 1061 00:56:41,989 --> 00:56:44,059 Just for what I agree to is I agree to a point. 1062 00:56:44,059 --> 00:56:45,739 Part of it would be whatever we were losing 1063 00:56:45,739 --> 00:56:47,359 to begin with by the parking spaces 1064 00:56:47,359 --> 00:56:48,859 that were being used before. 1065 00:56:48,859 --> 00:56:51,259 Yes, that money should go to the parking and the rest. 1066 00:56:51,259 --> 00:56:53,569 That would be something this commission could decide, 1067 00:56:53,569 --> 00:56:55,669 because I don't think the whole 700,000 should go 1068 00:56:55,669 --> 00:57:00,169 to two parking when the way it's set up now, 1069 00:57:00,169 --> 00:57:00,979 it's not going there. 1070 00:57:00,979 --> 00:57:02,539 It would never get that much amount anyway. 1071 00:57:02,539 --> 00:57:05,269 So I maybe give a little more to parking fund, 1072 00:57:05,269 --> 00:57:08,089 but I think some very general funding. 1073 00:57:08,089 --> 00:57:12,734 Listen, our taxes are going to are rising this year, 1074 00:57:12,734 --> 00:57:15,889 we're not going to be as good as we were last year. 1075 00:57:15,889 --> 00:57:17,749 You know, prices of housing has gone down. 1076 00:57:17,749 --> 00:57:19,279 So that's going to change things. 1077 00:57:19,279 --> 00:57:21,379 So there's a lot of factors in here 1078 00:57:21,379 --> 00:57:23,879 that I'm not going to say it's only going to go to one spot 1079 00:57:23,879 --> 00:57:24,379 right now. 1080 00:57:24,379 --> 00:57:27,079 We've got to make sure we're what we need the money for. 1081 00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:28,279 That's on. 1082 00:57:28,279 --> 00:57:28,789 Yes. 1083 00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:31,079 And but in fairness, we just we raise the parking rates. 1084 00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:31,579 Right. 1085 00:57:31,579 --> 00:57:33,703 To make to make sure that the parking fund was solving 1086 00:57:33,703 --> 00:57:35,563 cover all the expenses. 1087 00:57:35,563 --> 00:57:40,551 So you know it's 2 2 it's one thing to say we're going to go 1088 00:57:40,551 --> 00:57:42,225 to the general fund because we don't you 1089 00:57:42,225 --> 00:57:43,363 know, we don't on taxes, raise. 1090 00:57:43,363 --> 00:57:44,215 We need the revenue. 1091 00:57:44,215 --> 00:57:45,486 But it's another to do that. 1092 00:57:45,486 --> 00:57:46,756 And then potentially at some point, 1093 00:57:46,756 --> 00:57:48,178 the future raise parking rates again, 1094 00:57:48,178 --> 00:57:50,066 when we could have made it whole by just 1095 00:57:50,066 --> 00:57:50,899 putting this money there. 1096 00:57:50,899 --> 00:57:51,866 Again, that's a hypothetical. 1097 00:57:51,866 --> 00:57:53,929 No one's suggesting a raise for the parking here, 1098 00:57:53,929 --> 00:57:57,369 but magic question you said that there's you know, 1099 00:57:57,369 --> 00:57:58,629 there are going to be more over here. 1100 00:57:58,629 --> 00:57:59,129 Now. 1101 00:57:59,129 --> 00:58:01,459 So what do we find out in a year or six months 1102 00:58:01,459 --> 00:58:04,219 that really we're only using six of them? 1103 00:58:04,219 --> 00:58:05,509 We really don't need all ten. 1104 00:58:05,509 --> 00:58:08,869 They're not being used, you know I mean, you know, 1105 00:58:08,869 --> 00:58:12,139 by a percentage of all of them, Is there anything 1106 00:58:12,139 --> 00:58:14,749 in the contract that states that they would take some out 1107 00:58:14,749 --> 00:58:16,849 if they're not being used in, then 1108 00:58:16,849 --> 00:58:19,339 there's not because of the cost involved 1109 00:58:19,339 --> 00:58:20,869 in building them to begin with. 1110 00:58:20,869 --> 00:58:22,549 And even if they're not utilized, 1111 00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:25,009 they do have an obligation to pay rent to the city, 1112 00:58:25,009 --> 00:58:26,383 whether they're being used or not. 1113 00:58:26,383 --> 00:58:28,168 So we will be receiving that revenue, whether they're 1114 00:58:28,168 --> 00:58:29,061 being used or not. 1115 00:58:29,061 --> 00:58:36,679 OK But, you know so these spots are in addition 1116 00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:38,059 to the circuit spots? 1117 00:58:38,059 --> 00:58:43,639 That is correct And is there a way that since we 1118 00:58:43,639 --> 00:58:44,489 control the circuit. 1119 00:58:44,489 --> 00:58:44,989 Right. 1120 00:58:44,989 --> 00:58:47,183 The circuit doesn't rent those spots Correct. 1121 00:58:47,183 --> 00:58:48,259 We control the spots. 1122 00:58:48,259 --> 00:58:50,839 Is there a way we could work it out where 1123 00:58:50,839 --> 00:58:53,899 the circuit could use the ten spots that 1124 00:58:53,899 --> 00:58:55,699 are going to be put in there? 1125 00:58:55,699 --> 00:58:58,579 So we don't need to take up as many parking spots? 1126 00:58:58,579 --> 00:59:02,329 Have we explored that Well, if then it would make that parking, 1127 00:59:02,329 --> 00:59:05,629 that spot unavailable for someone that's there to charge 1128 00:59:05,629 --> 00:59:06,979 if they use those spaces. 1129 00:59:06,979 --> 00:59:08,599 But they're fast chargers, right? 1130 00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:11,149 And I don't know, circuit people aren't here anymore. 1131 00:59:11,149 --> 00:59:14,153 I don't know if they're the vehicles 1132 00:59:14,153 --> 00:59:16,639 like allow for fast charging. 1133 00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:19,219 So some of them don't the gym vehicles 1134 00:59:19,219 --> 00:59:21,758 these Chargers would not be able to be 1135 00:59:21,758 --> 00:59:23,834 charge on those fast chargers. 1136 00:59:23,834 --> 00:59:25,969 Their killer would be able to. 1137 00:59:25,969 --> 00:59:26,676 But not. 1138 00:59:26,676 --> 00:59:27,510 So then. 1139 00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:30,799 Not a possibility to try to limit the amount of spots 1140 00:59:30,799 --> 00:59:31,669 by doing that. 1141 00:59:31,669 --> 00:59:32,389 Okay. 1142 00:59:32,389 --> 00:59:38,786 And the amount of the electric that's being used 1143 00:59:38,786 --> 00:59:40,589 gets charged to the company, correct? 1144 00:59:40,589 --> 00:59:41,089 Correct. 1145 00:59:41,089 --> 00:59:43,146 And then they're just leasing the parking spot, Correct. 1146 00:59:43,146 --> 00:59:43,879 They pay all the cost. 1147 00:59:43,879 --> 00:59:45,123 They put it in separate meters. 1148 00:59:45,123 --> 00:59:47,389 So whoever, however they figure that out they 1149 00:59:47,389 --> 00:59:48,919 will work with that and have a scenario 1150 00:59:48,919 --> 00:59:51,619 way for our residents to get like a cheaper 1151 00:59:51,619 --> 00:59:54,799 rate than nonresidents. 1152 00:59:54,799 --> 00:59:55,849 Not currently. 1153 00:59:55,849 --> 00:59:58,523 That is One thing that we're exploring different options 1154 00:59:58,523 --> 00:59:59,708 going forward with. 1155 00:59:59,708 --> 01:00:02,505 If you go on different programs that they are looking into, 1156 01:00:02,505 --> 01:00:04,112 they do not currently exist. 1157 01:00:04,112 --> 01:00:04,648 OK. 1158 01:00:04,648 --> 01:00:07,556 That would be a good offering for our residents 1159 01:00:07,556 --> 01:00:10,609 Then we're taking up more parking spots are. 1160 01:00:10,609 --> 01:00:12,919 And hopefully that satisfy some people. 1161 01:00:12,919 --> 01:00:17,119 Okay great One one of the question 1162 01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:18,649 I understand that the Chargers is not 1163 01:00:18,649 --> 01:00:20,779 compatible with all vehicles. 1164 01:00:20,779 --> 01:00:26,119 Do we do we understand what vehicles it's not compatible 1165 01:00:26,119 --> 01:00:28,159 with you chair those and what percentage of the market 1166 01:00:28,159 --> 01:00:28,909 is that? 1167 01:00:28,909 --> 01:00:30,199 Because I think we all. 1168 01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:33,019 I don't think any of us think that all 11, 10 or 10 1169 01:00:33,019 --> 01:00:34,309 spots would be filled all the time. 1170 01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:35,779 But I recognize we have to go to that number 1171 01:00:35,779 --> 01:00:38,708 to make it make sense to put in the infrastructure. 1172 01:00:38,708 --> 01:00:40,558 If I may, I'll ask Matt from Evie. 1173 01:00:40,558 --> 01:00:41,058 Go. 1174 01:00:41,058 --> 01:00:44,089 Who's here to explain the details of the Chargers 1175 01:00:44,089 --> 01:00:45,859 name and address, please. 1176 01:00:45,859 --> 01:00:48,559 Matthew Collins to 7 or 9 fourths Club Drive. 1177 01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,429 Plant City Good evening, Mayor. 1178 01:00:50,429 --> 01:00:50,929 Vice Mayor. 1179 01:00:50,929 --> 01:00:53,659 Commissioners I'm a regional director for Go. 1180 01:00:53,659 --> 01:00:55,909 So our Chargers are what's called car us. 1181 01:00:55,909 --> 01:00:58,489 So we kind of do everybody but Tesla. 1182 01:00:58,489 --> 01:01:00,469 So GM, Ford, everybody. 1183 01:01:00,469 --> 01:01:02,591 Tesla just does the one the four cars we have. 1184 01:01:02,591 --> 01:01:04,669 And that's it We'll do everybody else. 1185 01:01:04,669 --> 01:01:08,239 Now we do are going to plan to roll out nax in the future 1186 01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:10,418 but we would probably test it and say, hey, guys. 1187 01:01:10,418 --> 01:01:11,358 Let's look at the city. 1188 01:01:11,358 --> 01:01:12,791 Are you guys filling up those ten Chargers, 1189 01:01:12,791 --> 01:01:15,229 which we think we will because this is going 1190 01:01:15,229 --> 01:01:17,719 to be the biggest site really from Fort 1191 01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:19,306 Lauderdale to Palm Beach. 1192 01:01:19,306 --> 01:01:22,399 I looked at the maps and there's nothing like this out there. 1193 01:01:22,399 --> 01:01:24,229 Oh so you guys are gonna be the biggest one. 1194 01:01:24,229 --> 01:01:26,929 We think it will be filled, or at least probably 70% 1195 01:01:26,929 --> 01:01:30,019 for Uber drivers and everybody else in the city. 1196 01:01:30,019 --> 01:01:31,859 Cars because of city cars and things like that. 1197 01:01:31,859 --> 01:01:32,359 So. 1198 01:01:32,359 --> 01:01:35,419 So you guys are obviously advertising this on on networks 1199 01:01:35,419 --> 01:01:36,608 of where fast car Chargers. 1200 01:01:36,608 --> 01:01:37,108 All right. 1201 01:01:37,108 --> 01:01:38,360 That's how that's how you're going to attract 1202 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:39,527 people to use that aren't just read 1203 01:01:39,527 --> 01:01:40,600 reds presence is that correct. 1204 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:41,100 Correct. 1205 01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:43,508 So we have our app, which is if you go up 1206 01:01:43,508 --> 01:01:45,374 and we have plug share, we're part of that. 1207 01:01:45,374 --> 01:01:46,969 And so we have two apps that go about 4 1208 01:01:46,969 --> 01:01:54,680 million users across the US The as you mentioned, 1209 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:55,605 I think that I'm sorry. 1210 01:01:55,605 --> 01:01:57,778 I didn't get the acronym for you said some new one is coming. 1211 01:01:57,778 --> 01:02:00,619 Is that something that is Tesla compatible or what's the tesla 1212 01:02:00,619 --> 01:02:04,031 is just nax is so North America charging standard and so 1213 01:02:04,031 --> 01:02:05,861 what we and everybody else does. 1214 01:02:05,861 --> 01:02:08,419 I get the feeling Tesla's market share is starting 1215 01:02:08,419 --> 01:02:09,452 to shrink a little bit. 1216 01:02:09,452 --> 01:02:10,819 What is their percentage of market share? 1217 01:02:10,819 --> 01:02:12,409 Relative to the total TV market? 1218 01:02:12,409 --> 01:02:14,929 It's about 70% of them there. 1219 01:02:14,929 --> 01:02:15,829 70% of the market. 1220 01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:16,329 Right. 1221 01:02:16,329 --> 01:02:18,169 But they already have their own network, right? 1222 01:02:18,169 --> 01:02:21,889 So for shoot out, 140,000 Chargers adapters 1223 01:02:21,889 --> 01:02:24,289 for Tesla and found out 90% of the users 1224 01:02:24,289 --> 01:02:25,709 are still using the cars. 1225 01:02:25,709 --> 01:02:26,209 Right. 1226 01:02:26,209 --> 01:02:29,059 So we still have about 300,000 cars joining the market 1227 01:02:29,059 --> 01:02:31,099 every quarter that are cars. 1228 01:02:31,099 --> 01:02:32,359 So we serve that whole market. 1229 01:02:32,359 --> 01:02:35,279 How long when someone's doing a fast charge, how long are they 1230 01:02:35,279 --> 01:02:36,488 sit here for? 1231 01:02:36,488 --> 01:02:38,303 About 20, 25 minutes. 1232 01:02:38,303 --> 01:02:40,129 OK Because we're doing 350. 1233 01:02:40,129 --> 01:02:44,059 So the ones you have out there are about 50kW. 1234 01:02:44,059 --> 01:02:45,199 We're doing 350. 1235 01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:46,549 This is a wild question. 1236 01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:47,449 I'm sure you don't have it. 1237 01:02:47,449 --> 01:02:49,259 Butts in time for them to go get something. 1238 01:02:49,259 --> 01:02:50,606 Well, that's actually the masking. 1239 01:02:50,606 --> 01:02:52,162 That was my wild question is, do you 1240 01:02:52,162 --> 01:02:53,629 have any stats about the percentage of like, 1241 01:02:53,629 --> 01:02:55,869 you know, what people do during that, you know, do they do. 1242 01:02:55,869 --> 01:02:58,039 They go and walk to a nearby restaurant or just 1243 01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:00,769 so we do we think that it brings and I guess on your deck 1244 01:03:00,769 --> 01:03:02,929 if you guys want us to in industry 1245 01:03:02,929 --> 01:03:05,665 we think it brings about a 20% increase 1246 01:03:05,665 --> 01:03:07,728 that a local like market kind of. 1247 01:03:07,728 --> 01:03:11,509 So if it's like a restaurant or and I walked around 1248 01:03:11,509 --> 01:03:13,009 to see what we have a lot of good restaurants 1249 01:03:13,009 --> 01:03:15,679 right here the charging walk over to they're going 1250 01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:22,782 for a nonalcoholic cocktail OK so so you know, in my mind, 1251 01:03:22,782 --> 01:03:24,049 when we were first talking about this, 1252 01:03:24,049 --> 01:03:25,489 I was thinking of it in terms of our residents 1253 01:03:25,489 --> 01:03:26,722 who just happened to know it's there. 1254 01:03:26,722 --> 01:03:29,749 But it's you're doing your model based on much larger stats 1255 01:03:29,749 --> 01:03:32,224 about the availability of these in the area where 1256 01:03:32,224 --> 01:03:35,209 exactly in the parking lot with these video 1257 01:03:35,209 --> 01:03:36,619 these will be in the corner close 1258 01:03:36,619 --> 01:03:39,109 to the entrance to the volleyball court. 1259 01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:43,039 It will form an L where circuit is currently right now, 1260 01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:47,599 as well as where we have the employee apartment 1261 01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:50,767 parking only facing 21st court. 1262 01:03:50,767 --> 01:03:53,506 OK And this may also be a ridiculous question 1263 01:03:53,506 --> 01:03:54,568 I think do this one. 1264 01:03:54,568 --> 01:03:56,515 Do you do is the you know I know we have 1265 01:03:56,515 --> 01:03:58,039 that other kind of mini lot that's over 1266 01:03:58,039 --> 01:03:59,839 in the corner of this property. 1267 01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:01,926 There's and I don't remember the topography. 1268 01:04:01,926 --> 01:04:03,559 Is there any operating any place in this property 1269 01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:05,509 to create some additional spots, you know, 1270 01:04:05,509 --> 01:04:07,639 for the spots that we're losing from some of this revenue 1271 01:04:07,639 --> 01:04:11,119 or no we have this slot is pretty much 1272 01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:13,519 developed to its maximum use. 1273 01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:18,199 So there's really no opportunity other than to reap introduce 1274 01:04:18,199 --> 01:04:20,239 the three spaces that we're losing to the one charger 1275 01:04:20,239 --> 01:04:22,849 right now just to minimize the number of parking spaces 1276 01:04:22,849 --> 01:04:29,089 that we're losing If the circuit needed 1277 01:04:29,089 --> 01:04:31,389 to expand because we wanted to add additional circuit. 1278 01:04:31,389 --> 01:04:36,439 But there would be room We do have right now five spaces 1279 01:04:36,439 --> 01:04:38,449 that we utilize and there are three vehicles there. 1280 01:04:38,449 --> 01:04:41,449 So we do have the ability to add up to two more vehicles, four 1281 01:04:41,449 --> 01:04:45,949 circuit without having to expand So the space is there, 1282 01:04:45,949 --> 01:04:48,379 but we do have the ability in the area 1283 01:04:48,379 --> 01:04:50,689 that we're moving them to, which is to the other side of the gas 1284 01:04:50,689 --> 01:04:51,189 pump. 1285 01:04:51,189 --> 01:04:56,239 And i would imagine based on what you said, that there would 1286 01:04:56,239 --> 01:04:58,819 be more people coming from surrounding areas I would 1287 01:04:58,819 --> 01:05:01,609 imagine it's not going to impact traffic on Wilton Drive, 1288 01:05:01,609 --> 01:05:05,659 correct You mean more traffic? 1289 01:05:05,659 --> 01:05:08,599 Correct They'll be there for a short period of time. 1290 01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:11,209 So I don't think it will increase traffic 1291 01:05:11,209 --> 01:05:13,789 on Wilton Drive Oh, okay. 1292 01:05:13,789 --> 01:05:17,608 Perfect And yeah, so in addition to the hard dollars 1293 01:05:17,608 --> 01:05:20,359 we're getting there may be soft dollars in terms of people 1294 01:05:20,359 --> 01:05:21,936 driving through, stopping at public, 1295 01:05:21,936 --> 01:05:25,349 stopping at a sushi place and things like that. 1296 01:05:25,349 --> 01:05:26,849 So I'm supportive of this. 1297 01:05:26,849 --> 01:05:28,347 And right now that's what they do, 1298 01:05:28,347 --> 01:05:30,529 because I see them using our current charger 1299 01:05:30,529 --> 01:05:32,689 and they park there and they go across the street for coffee 1300 01:05:32,689 --> 01:05:33,769 or something like that. 1301 01:05:33,769 --> 01:05:38,989 Walk around Any other questions Can I ask one? 1302 01:05:38,989 --> 01:05:41,029 We have two signature events, right? 1303 01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:43,519 We have Stonewall, Wicked Manners 1304 01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:48,169 Is it possible to to allow parking in those spots 1305 01:05:48,169 --> 01:05:51,319 during the two signature events when parking 1306 01:05:51,319 --> 01:05:53,479 is at a premium Yes, sir. 1307 01:05:53,479 --> 01:05:56,959 There is a provision in the contract for up to three days 1308 01:05:56,959 --> 01:05:57,769 for maintenance. 1309 01:05:57,769 --> 01:06:01,909 Anything that the city deems that we need the parking we 1310 01:06:01,909 --> 01:06:04,219 could restrict the Chargers after three days. 1311 01:06:04,219 --> 01:06:05,839 And it does affect our rent. 1312 01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:08,479 But and it's not it's not three consecutive days. 1313 01:06:08,479 --> 01:06:11,149 It's just no For after three consecutive days, 1314 01:06:11,149 --> 01:06:12,109 it does affect the rent. 1315 01:06:12,109 --> 01:06:14,294 But we could close it for up to three days at a time. 1316 01:06:14,294 --> 01:06:16,924 If we need it, for maintenance, for special events and things 1317 01:06:16,924 --> 01:06:17,543 like that. 1318 01:06:17,543 --> 01:06:18,899 OK You thought of it all. 1319 01:06:18,899 --> 01:06:19,399 Good. 1320 01:06:19,399 --> 01:06:19,759 All right. 1321 01:06:19,759 --> 01:06:20,259 That's. 1322 01:06:20,259 --> 01:06:20,849 That's good news. 1323 01:06:20,849 --> 01:06:21,349 Thank you. 1324 01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:22,052 We do have a deal. 1325 01:06:22,052 --> 01:06:22,819 Just tell me the dates. 1326 01:06:22,819 --> 01:06:24,529 And I would just turn them off. 1327 01:06:24,529 --> 01:06:25,039 Okay. 1328 01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:27,079 Wonderful Thank you. 1329 01:06:27,079 --> 01:06:33,289 All right Thank you all. 1330 01:06:33,289 --> 01:06:35,929 The question, Vice Mayor Caputo? 1331 01:06:35,929 --> 01:06:39,989 Yes Commissioner Dominio Yes, Commissioner Rocky. 1332 01:06:39,989 --> 01:06:40,489 Yes. 1333 01:06:40,489 --> 01:06:41,299 Commissioner Rowley. 1334 01:06:41,299 --> 01:06:42,589 Yes Mayor Newton. 1335 01:06:42,589 --> 01:06:44,029 Yes. 1336 01:06:44,029 --> 01:06:46,489 Oh, What I did have one more question. 1337 01:06:46,489 --> 01:06:49,339 Is it possible for me to look like I 1338 01:06:49,339 --> 01:06:52,129 can ask you a separate question everyone would want to know. 1339 01:06:52,129 --> 01:06:54,439 You said right now, but don't ask me answer right now. 1340 01:06:54,439 --> 01:07:00,259 But what is the timeline It's not a big deal 1341 01:07:00,259 --> 01:07:03,859 I don't think that tourney will get to know. 1342 01:07:03,859 --> 01:07:06,649 We've been working on now that it's been approved, what 1343 01:07:06,649 --> 01:07:09,979 is the time it's going to come back to you for second reading 1344 01:07:09,979 --> 01:07:12,209 because it's okay so will be at the next commission meeting 1345 01:07:12,209 --> 01:07:12,709 as well. 1346 01:07:12,709 --> 01:07:15,125 We've been working with the for months on this. 1347 01:07:15,125 --> 01:07:16,202 They're ready to go. 1348 01:07:16,202 --> 01:07:17,493 We'll be ready to go. 1349 01:07:17,493 --> 01:07:18,139 Appreciate it. 1350 01:07:18,139 --> 01:07:21,589 All depends on FPL and how fast will move. 1351 01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:24,634 But in speaking to six years, basically 1352 01:07:24,634 --> 01:07:29,599 the goal if if FPL moves is to try 1353 01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:31,439 to have it by Christmas time. 1354 01:07:31,439 --> 01:07:31,939 Perfect. 1355 01:07:31,939 --> 01:07:32,089 Right? 1356 01:07:32,089 --> 01:07:32,889 In time for season four. 1357 01:07:32,889 --> 01:07:34,639 Thank you All right. 1358 01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:36,089 Thank you. 1359 01:07:36,089 --> 01:07:36,589 All right. 1360 01:07:36,589 --> 01:07:42,169 Resolutions resolution 2025 dash 00R033. 1361 01:07:42,169 --> 01:07:47,119 Please read a resolution of the city commission of the city 1362 01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:50,389 of Wilton Manors, Florida, authorizing an amnesty program 1363 01:07:50,389 --> 01:07:52,909 to address current code enforcement fines, including 1364 01:07:52,909 --> 01:07:55,759 those creating a lean upon real property, 1365 01:07:55,759 --> 01:07:58,369 providing for conditions, providing for reduction amounts, 1366 01:07:58,369 --> 01:08:01,489 providing for a termination date, providing for conflicts, 1367 01:08:01,489 --> 01:08:04,609 providing for severability and providing for an effective date 1368 01:08:04,609 --> 01:08:05,149 Thank you. 1369 01:08:05,149 --> 01:08:07,969 Is there a motion I'll make the motion. 1370 01:08:07,969 --> 01:08:09,439 Your second. 1371 01:08:09,439 --> 01:08:10,669 I will second. 1372 01:08:10,669 --> 01:08:18,809 Good luck young gentleman Chief floor is yours. 1373 01:08:18,809 --> 01:08:19,309 Good evening. 1374 01:08:19,309 --> 01:08:22,129 Gary Blocker, Chief of Police department. 1375 01:08:22,129 --> 01:08:26,700 Going back to January 28th, this commission discussed a prospect 1376 01:08:26,700 --> 01:08:30,859 of lean amnesty program and this policy was constructed based 1377 01:08:30,859 --> 01:08:34,819 on your discussions and supplemental One on one feedback 1378 01:08:34,819 --> 01:08:37,999 staff believes that the proposed policy provides clear program 1379 01:08:37,999 --> 01:08:41,599 standards for applicants to understand and also staff 1380 01:08:41,599 --> 01:08:44,389 to process and manage and we asked 1381 01:08:44,389 --> 01:08:46,879 tonight that the Commission finalize a policy, 1382 01:08:46,879 --> 01:08:48,434 as you so desire. 1383 01:08:48,434 --> 01:08:52,789 So as of April 2, there are 124 leaves 1384 01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:58,129 attached to non home properties falling over $9.6 million 1385 01:08:58,129 --> 01:09:01,009 35 homes that are properties have leaves 1386 01:09:01,009 --> 01:09:03,079 totaling over two $9 million. 1387 01:09:03,079 --> 01:09:09,469 With that grand total being over $12.6 million. 1388 01:09:09,469 --> 01:09:11,959 If we look at this chart here, that's also in the back up. 1389 01:09:11,959 --> 01:09:16,579 You can see where the bulk of the non that lean amounts 1390 01:09:16,579 --> 01:09:17,089 reside. 1391 01:09:17,089 --> 01:09:22,279 36% of those amounts reside in that 100 to 199, 1392 01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:26,248 99 Nine category lean amounts on the homes 1393 01:09:26,248 --> 01:09:31,339 that are properties You see the majority lie in that 100 to 1 99 1394 01:09:31,339 --> 01:09:36,589 and nine category at 59% at 1.7 million. 1395 01:09:36,589 --> 01:09:41,659 So what we're proposing tonight is that we run a lean amnesty 1396 01:09:41,659 --> 01:09:44,059 program for a period of one year, 1397 01:09:44,059 --> 01:09:48,379 July first, starting and ending next year, June 30th. 1398 01:09:48,379 --> 01:09:51,019 So anybody who gets an application into us 1399 01:09:51,019 --> 01:09:54,259 within that time frame and the administrative fee 1400 01:09:54,259 --> 01:09:57,979 would be eligible for consideration. 1401 01:09:57,979 --> 01:10:00,589 We're proposing for the first nine months, 1402 01:10:00,589 --> 01:10:05,029 Homestead properties will receive a 9% reduction 1403 01:10:05,029 --> 01:10:08,809 and this excludes fees non homestead properties 1404 01:10:08,809 --> 01:10:10,969 would be reduced by 80%. 1405 01:10:10,969 --> 01:10:13,099 And the last three months those amounts 1406 01:10:13,099 --> 01:10:16,669 would reduce by 10% each. 1407 01:10:16,669 --> 01:10:19,969 And that payment be received within 90 calendar day time. 1408 01:10:19,969 --> 01:10:26,059 The city provides the applicant a notice of approval We're 1409 01:10:26,059 --> 01:10:27,289 talking about eligibility. 1410 01:10:27,289 --> 01:10:30,199 There are seven and they're all listed in the back up. 1411 01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:32,899 If we review a few of them, the property 1412 01:10:32,899 --> 01:10:35,239 that we're talking about shall be income appliance 1413 01:10:35,239 --> 01:10:38,539 with all of the city codes to include those associated 1414 01:10:38,539 --> 01:10:42,259 with that code case and that any and all 1415 01:10:42,259 --> 01:10:45,739 violations on the property shall be compliant prior to apply. 1416 01:10:45,739 --> 01:10:48,919 I know application will be processed until this happens. 1417 01:10:48,919 --> 01:10:53,809 Each lien shall have a minimum face value of $1,000 and they 1418 01:10:53,809 --> 01:10:57,769 shall not be under any order of reduction by the magistrate 1419 01:10:57,769 --> 01:11:01,999 or this Commission eligible leans shall not exceed 1420 01:11:01,999 --> 01:11:05,209 that $250,000 at the time. 1421 01:11:05,209 --> 01:11:08,449 The application is submitted. 1422 01:11:08,449 --> 01:11:10,549 And then should an application be submitted and then 1423 01:11:10,549 --> 01:11:13,819 found not to meet the minimum standards it 1424 01:11:13,819 --> 01:11:15,769 will be rejected by the city. 1425 01:11:15,769 --> 01:11:19,519 The following liens are and fines are not eligible 1426 01:11:19,519 --> 01:11:22,871 for the amnesty program leans arising for unsafe structure 1427 01:11:22,871 --> 01:11:27,709 board actions, orders leaves arising from the Building Safety 1428 01:11:27,709 --> 01:11:31,549 Inspection Program are not eligible until all requirements 1429 01:11:31,549 --> 01:11:33,139 of the Building Safety Inspection Program 1430 01:11:33,139 --> 01:11:36,139 are satisfied to include, but not limited 1431 01:11:36,139 --> 01:11:39,173 to the required repairs. 1432 01:11:39,173 --> 01:11:40,969 You see, the application fees there 1433 01:11:40,969 --> 01:11:45,709 and the staff time associated and also the Lean release fee. 1434 01:11:45,709 --> 01:11:50,479 And these fees are mere legal costs covering recovery staff 1435 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:56,782 cost recovery in Broward County, a lean release fee we recommend 1436 01:11:56,782 --> 01:12:00,679 no appeals and the determination by the chief of police 1437 01:12:00,679 --> 01:12:05,539 or the Department designee to approve or reject request passed 1438 01:12:05,539 --> 01:12:07,759 shall become final. 1439 01:12:07,759 --> 01:12:12,169 So if approved, we have a communications plan. 1440 01:12:12,169 --> 01:12:13,729 Traditional media, digital media, 1441 01:12:13,729 --> 01:12:17,449 community outreach and direct outreach 1442 01:12:17,449 --> 01:12:20,869 to those specific properties with leans 1443 01:12:20,869 --> 01:12:25,969 and also our program performance metrics 1444 01:12:25,969 --> 01:12:27,979 We're confident that if there's no major changes 1445 01:12:27,979 --> 01:12:30,739 to this presentation or this proposal 1446 01:12:30,739 --> 01:12:35,539 tonight, that we can launch this July first. 1447 01:12:35,539 --> 01:12:38,959 And just as a reminder, at the last commission meeting, 1448 01:12:38,959 --> 01:12:44,569 we did there was a small discussion about a a income 1449 01:12:44,569 --> 01:12:49,223 based reduction program that is in the back 1450 01:12:49,223 --> 01:12:52,399 up for your review or a recall. 1451 01:12:52,399 --> 01:12:57,349 We would recommend that we proceed as a city in the manner 1452 01:12:57,349 --> 01:13:00,109 proposed That's not what I have. 1453 01:13:00,109 --> 01:13:01,879 And questions for the commissioner. 1454 01:13:01,879 --> 01:13:02,449 Thoughts? 1455 01:13:02,449 --> 01:13:03,049 All right, Chief. 1456 01:13:03,049 --> 01:13:04,009 Thank you. 1457 01:13:04,009 --> 01:13:11,209 The questions don't questions from you, bye. 1458 01:13:11,209 --> 01:13:12,989 Think you had a good night. 1459 01:13:12,989 --> 01:13:13,489 So. 1460 01:13:13,489 --> 01:13:14,476 So just to apply. 1461 01:13:14,476 --> 01:13:15,139 So here we go. 1462 01:13:15,139 --> 01:13:15,949 So I'll jump in. 1463 01:13:15,949 --> 01:13:16,789 Let's go. 1464 01:13:16,789 --> 01:13:20,929 So the only comment and I'm happy from discussions 1465 01:13:20,929 --> 01:13:23,539 we had to see the change to include 1466 01:13:23,539 --> 01:13:24,859 non homesteaded properties. 1467 01:13:24,859 --> 01:13:27,945 My thought in that was that we've heard from. 1468 01:13:27,945 --> 01:13:29,293 And we've had cases in front of us 1469 01:13:29,293 --> 01:13:31,909 that people that were looking to move to the city they 1470 01:13:31,909 --> 01:13:35,119 accumulated significant fines that they couldn't live 1471 01:13:35,119 --> 01:13:36,889 in because it wasn't right. 1472 01:13:36,889 --> 01:13:39,919 So, so them wanting to clear that become residents is great. 1473 01:13:39,919 --> 01:13:40,999 That intent. 1474 01:13:40,999 --> 01:13:42,499 What I didn't intend for that was 1475 01:13:42,499 --> 01:13:45,532 to become commercial properties that are not homestead. 1476 01:13:45,532 --> 01:13:48,156 So nonresidential you know, properties which are 1477 01:13:48,156 --> 01:13:49,549 then of course not Homestead. 1478 01:13:49,549 --> 01:13:51,859 Do you have any idea what what number 1479 01:13:51,859 --> 01:13:56,539 or what's the lean value of commercial properties within 1480 01:13:56,539 --> 01:13:59,569 that list The lean value, No. 1481 01:13:59,569 --> 01:14:01,459 What I will tell you is the single family 1482 01:14:01,459 --> 01:14:04,999 residential non homestead. 1483 01:14:04,999 --> 01:14:08,899 It is 54 or 54 properties, multifamily residence, all 12 1484 01:14:08,899 --> 01:14:13,429 properties and commercial 54 properties 1485 01:14:13,429 --> 01:14:15,829 and so I definitely am not in support 1486 01:14:15,829 --> 01:14:20,089 of doing the amnesty for true commercial properties here 1487 01:14:20,089 --> 01:14:21,529 And we don't have a way of knowing 1488 01:14:21,529 --> 01:14:27,365 if it's of distinguished. 1489 01:14:27,365 --> 01:14:28,665 I'm trying to think how you distinguish 1490 01:14:28,665 --> 01:14:30,349 on the residential side. 1491 01:14:30,349 --> 01:14:33,169 If it's a commercial, I guess like an apartment or something 1492 01:14:33,169 --> 01:14:35,479 like that, like it's is there some way to distinguish it 1493 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:36,679 more than some number of units? 1494 01:14:36,679 --> 01:14:39,156 We can assume it's not owner occupied 1495 01:14:39,156 --> 01:14:41,089 or I'm just throwing it out to the rest of the commission. 1496 01:14:41,089 --> 01:14:43,339 If there's interest, you know, because I don't want 1497 01:14:43,339 --> 01:14:45,019 to say that all residential included, 1498 01:14:45,019 --> 01:14:46,549 if if there are some commercial. 1499 01:14:46,549 --> 01:14:48,589 I think we've seen like some apartment buildings 1500 01:14:48,589 --> 01:14:50,419 come through here that I would consider 1501 01:14:50,419 --> 01:14:51,930 commercial not residential. 1502 01:14:51,930 --> 01:14:53,449 But I think if it's owner occupied, 1503 01:14:53,449 --> 01:14:55,936 they almost always have a homestead protection on it, 1504 01:14:55,936 --> 01:14:56,964 at least for a portion. 1505 01:14:56,964 --> 01:14:58,477 The portion they live. 1506 01:14:58,477 --> 01:15:01,099 But I know it's on our occupied but I'm 1507 01:15:01,099 --> 01:15:03,889 saying that we'd that I'm open to that not I want 1508 01:15:03,889 --> 01:15:06,409 non homesteaded residential properties potentially 1509 01:15:06,409 --> 01:15:09,319 to qualify but not non homesteaded 1510 01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:12,322 you know like a commercial like, you know what like a 20. 1511 01:15:12,322 --> 01:15:13,295 I don't want a 20 unit. 1512 01:15:13,295 --> 01:15:13,795 Exactly. 1513 01:15:13,795 --> 01:15:16,131 To which we've seen it, we've seen that we had the one 1514 01:15:16,131 --> 01:15:18,949 egregious one like that, to me, is this a commercial property 1515 01:15:18,949 --> 01:15:21,229 But the single family, the residential that sort 1516 01:15:21,229 --> 01:15:25,069 of whether it's homestead or not I'd like to see that included. 1517 01:15:25,069 --> 01:15:25,849 I would agree. 1518 01:15:25,849 --> 01:15:30,979 I agree to limit it to as you said, no commercial properties 1519 01:15:30,979 --> 01:15:33,469 So how do we define commercial since we're not 1520 01:15:33,469 --> 01:15:34,549 using Homestead non Homestead? 1521 01:15:34,549 --> 01:15:37,579 Do we define that by nothing more than two like two units? 1522 01:15:37,579 --> 01:15:41,749 Or how would we define with the not traditional residential, 1523 01:15:41,749 --> 01:15:44,629 you know that we're looking to exclude that. 1524 01:15:44,629 --> 01:15:46,459 I mean, to me, if you're three units or more, 1525 01:15:46,459 --> 01:15:47,423 you know that's private. 1526 01:15:47,423 --> 01:15:50,329 You're probably not a lot of duplexes. 1527 01:15:50,329 --> 01:15:55,279 They live in one and they rent out the other Don't know. 1528 01:15:55,279 --> 01:15:57,679 I mean, to get past that, I just I think I don't know. 1529 01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:00,019 And for that, I think for me, I would be in support 1530 01:16:00,019 --> 01:16:01,369 of, you know, nothing. 1531 01:16:01,369 --> 01:16:03,962 3 units and up, you know qualify guys 1532 01:16:03,962 --> 01:16:06,744 you know because at that point your city if only 1533 01:16:06,744 --> 01:16:09,739 a commercial venture you know if two thirds doesn't qualify 1534 01:16:09,739 --> 01:16:11,959 doesn't qualify for the amnesty provided somebody 1535 01:16:11,959 --> 01:16:14,059 lives in one of those right. 1536 01:16:14,059 --> 01:16:15,889 As long as somebody lives in one in, 1537 01:16:15,889 --> 01:16:19,373 it's homesteaded If if it's Homestead, that's fine. 1538 01:16:19,373 --> 01:16:21,675 You know, that's fine But if it's not homesteaded 1539 01:16:21,675 --> 01:16:23,211 and it's three units or more. 1540 01:16:23,211 --> 01:16:25,411 It shouldn't qualify My opinion no matter what, no matter what. 1541 01:16:25,411 --> 01:16:29,929 Yeah Then can we just step back a second? 1542 01:16:29,929 --> 01:16:33,751 I believe that there is state law that we cannot foreclose 1543 01:16:33,751 --> 01:16:37,489 on a homestead of properties that rent we cannot foreclose 1544 01:16:37,489 --> 01:16:38,749 on a homestead of properties. 1545 01:16:38,749 --> 01:16:39,799 Correct. 1546 01:16:39,799 --> 01:16:42,517 And if there's a multifamily where someone's living there 1547 01:16:42,517 --> 01:16:43,831 and it's partially homestead it. 1548 01:16:43,831 --> 01:16:49,669 I guess we would not be able to do if I may look 1549 01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:50,689 to legal for that, correct? 1550 01:16:50,689 --> 01:16:51,559 Yeah, no problem. 1551 01:16:51,559 --> 01:16:56,539 If it's a condominium and the individual units are owned 1552 01:16:56,539 --> 01:16:59,689 individually those individual units can be Homestead 1553 01:16:59,689 --> 01:17:02,479 in a multiple unit property. 1554 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:07,159 But if it's a rental community, then none of those units 1555 01:17:07,159 --> 01:17:09,664 are homes that okay. 1556 01:17:09,664 --> 01:17:11,779 But I think what he's getting at is 1557 01:17:11,779 --> 01:17:16,699 I know there's a few properties where there may be a main house 1558 01:17:16,699 --> 01:17:20,839 that the owner and he gets a partial homestead 1559 01:17:20,839 --> 01:17:24,979 and then the two or 3 or 4 units on the property that are being 1560 01:17:24,979 --> 01:17:27,649 rented out doesn't get the homestead exemption 1561 01:17:27,649 --> 01:17:29,149 for tax purposes on that. 1562 01:17:29,149 --> 01:17:32,989 But it has a homestead exemption on the piece of real estate 1563 01:17:32,989 --> 01:17:34,909 which I mean, imagine you can't I was 1564 01:17:34,909 --> 01:17:37,432 on that either I don't know. 1565 01:17:37,432 --> 01:17:37,932 It. 1566 01:17:37,932 --> 01:17:38,875 Yeah I mean. 1567 01:17:38,875 --> 01:17:40,507 So for me, that would I would count 1568 01:17:40,507 --> 01:17:42,589 that property as a homestead property and general to me. 1569 01:17:42,589 --> 01:17:44,979 But I think that was a clarification You were trying. 1570 01:17:44,979 --> 01:17:45,762 No, no. 1571 01:17:45,762 --> 01:17:46,437 And that's correct. 1572 01:17:46,437 --> 01:17:46,937 Yeah. 1573 01:17:46,937 --> 01:17:51,829 Thank you I guess you had given us 1574 01:17:51,829 --> 01:17:54,139 the amnesty program for davie, and I 1575 01:17:54,139 --> 01:17:56,269 believe that was six months. 1576 01:17:56,269 --> 01:18:00,379 I mean, for me, I feel like a year or a really long time here 1577 01:18:00,379 --> 01:18:03,318 And we're offering them, you know, 1578 01:18:03,318 --> 01:18:06,739 a deep discount for the first nine months, 1579 01:18:06,739 --> 01:18:09,410 just for me, it just seems very long day. 1580 01:18:09,410 --> 01:18:11,372 We did six months. 1581 01:18:11,372 --> 01:18:15,469 I, I think I would prefer to bring it down a little bit 1582 01:18:15,469 --> 01:18:18,799 rather than have it go out to a year. 1583 01:18:18,799 --> 01:18:21,439 And we're offering a deeper discount 1584 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,239 for the first nine months. 1585 01:18:23,239 --> 01:18:26,659 I think for me, I would rather see that we due to a shorter 1586 01:18:26,659 --> 01:18:29,659 period to encourage people to do it 1587 01:18:29,659 --> 01:18:35,299 within the first 90 days or 120 days or something like that. 1588 01:18:35,299 --> 01:18:38,656 I think nine months is just a long time to give 1589 01:18:38,656 --> 01:18:40,739 them that maximum discount. 1590 01:18:40,739 --> 01:18:46,099 Couple of comments I would how anyone else feels about does 1591 01:18:46,099 --> 01:18:48,289 the staff have the capability if everyone 1592 01:18:48,289 --> 01:18:51,769 came within the first three months of I'm just asking. 1593 01:18:51,769 --> 01:18:52,759 Great. 1594 01:18:52,759 --> 01:18:54,654 Physically to be able to process. 1595 01:18:54,654 --> 01:18:56,460 It's it's a nice problem to have. 1596 01:18:56,460 --> 01:18:57,936 Yeah yes but it. 1597 01:18:57,936 --> 01:19:01,355 So you would, as long as we would process them first come, 1598 01:19:01,355 --> 01:19:04,009 first serve as long as they get their application in 1599 01:19:04,009 --> 01:19:04,999 and their administrative fee. 1600 01:19:04,999 --> 01:19:08,029 And within that time period they would be eligible whether or not 1601 01:19:08,029 --> 01:19:09,019 we're able to process them. 1602 01:19:09,019 --> 01:19:10,699 After that, you have to okay. 1603 01:19:10,699 --> 01:19:13,367 At first, whatever goes into effect after that. 1604 01:19:13,367 --> 01:19:16,129 And then a question for the city attorney, 1605 01:19:16,129 --> 01:19:19,549 although we can't foreclose on Homestead properties, 1606 01:19:19,549 --> 01:19:22,339 are we allowed to put leans on Homestead, had properties 1607 01:19:22,339 --> 01:19:26,359 So at the time of sale, the Lean would be paid back 1608 01:19:26,359 --> 01:19:30,229 The leans would be placed on the property 1609 01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:31,489 just like any other property. 1610 01:19:31,489 --> 01:19:34,579 You couldn't foreclose it and it wouldn't 1611 01:19:34,579 --> 01:19:37,225 attach much to the homestead building, 1612 01:19:37,225 --> 01:19:39,199 would not attach to the homestead 1613 01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:44,239 And so if the homestead owner sells us and two years from now 1614 01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:46,159 with the lean still be on the property that needed 1615 01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:49,309 to be paid back at the time of sale 1616 01:19:49,309 --> 01:19:51,259 yes, that happens all the time. 1617 01:19:51,259 --> 01:19:51,919 Yeah. 1618 01:19:51,919 --> 01:19:55,219 So although we may not be able to foreclose theoretically, 1619 01:19:55,219 --> 01:19:56,629 you still file a lean and lean. 1620 01:19:56,629 --> 01:19:58,639 You could sit there for 20 or 30 years 1621 01:19:58,639 --> 01:20:02,177 before it's ever collected on, but that's an option. 1622 01:20:02,177 --> 01:20:04,759 Can you go back to the percentages 1623 01:20:04,759 --> 01:20:08,205 of the of the decrease from me for the non homestead? 1624 01:20:08,205 --> 01:20:08,809 It. 1625 01:20:08,809 --> 01:20:14,299 I think 80% is a really, really steep discount generally 1626 01:20:14,299 --> 01:20:16,669 numbs homesteaded properties. 1627 01:20:16,669 --> 01:20:18,734 People don't live here and it's rented out. 1628 01:20:18,734 --> 01:20:22,699 It's owned by an LLC or it's Airbnb out Maybe 1629 01:20:22,699 --> 01:20:26,209 it's a second owner or second home owner. 1630 01:20:26,209 --> 01:20:28,639 However, if it's a second home, they generally take care of it 1631 01:20:28,639 --> 01:20:35,239 better than like a person that's not here full time and is an LLC 1632 01:20:35,239 --> 01:20:37,849 or I'm just using it to rent out So for me, 1633 01:20:37,849 --> 01:20:41,479 I don't want to support the decrease of 80% 1634 01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,699 just to try to clean up our books a little bit. 1635 01:20:43,699 --> 01:20:45,769 Doesn't make sense to me. 1636 01:20:45,769 --> 01:20:50,610 I don't know what everyone else thinks, so first what was 1637 01:20:50,610 --> 01:20:51,696 the first time that you were. 1638 01:20:51,696 --> 01:20:53,404 I'm to remember because I thought of that one to. 1639 01:20:53,404 --> 01:20:55,563 But you were talking about that passed to him. 1640 01:20:55,563 --> 01:20:56,773 The one year period. 1641 01:20:56,773 --> 01:21:00,106 Oh, So in the one year here, my concern about not having it be, 1642 01:21:00,106 --> 01:21:01,619 you know, is for launching this now. 1643 01:21:01,619 --> 01:21:02,119 Right. 1644 01:21:02,119 --> 01:21:04,309 You know we're launching in summertime so some number 1645 01:21:04,309 --> 01:21:07,399 of people that would qualify may not be present You know, 1646 01:21:07,399 --> 01:21:09,709 and also we just know like a town town 1647 01:21:09,709 --> 01:21:12,979 crier cycle is like three months potentially for that comes out. 1648 01:21:12,979 --> 01:21:15,469 So I mean maybe down to nine months. 1649 01:21:15,469 --> 01:21:17,179 If it was going to launch in the off season. 1650 01:21:17,179 --> 01:21:18,850 But I think Six months, frankly, people 1651 01:21:18,850 --> 01:21:20,345 don't hear about stuff in the city 1652 01:21:20,345 --> 01:21:22,280 fast enough for them to turn it around in six months. 1653 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,110 I think, too, if i just signed a letter to the owner. 1654 01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:27,379 But if you're not if you're not there because you're you 1655 01:21:27,379 --> 01:21:28,066 live up north. 1656 01:21:28,066 --> 01:21:29,899 Pine and this is a second home, if you're not only here 1657 01:21:29,899 --> 01:21:31,710 six months out of the year you know, 1658 01:21:31,710 --> 01:21:33,810 usually the mailing address of the property appraiser's updated 1659 01:21:33,810 --> 01:21:35,317 different from the well, that. 1660 01:21:35,317 --> 01:21:37,582 And that's what I was going to ask i know some people 1661 01:21:37,582 --> 01:21:39,169 code might know that or chief you 1662 01:21:39,169 --> 01:21:41,329 might know that don't the second home usually 1663 01:21:41,329 --> 01:21:43,820 they have the address of the homestead a property 1664 01:21:43,820 --> 01:21:47,239 or another country or another state. 1665 01:21:47,239 --> 01:21:48,799 I'm sorry As a question again, please. 1666 01:21:48,799 --> 01:21:49,429 The address. 1667 01:21:49,429 --> 01:21:52,279 You have to if you have to send a notice of some kind 1668 01:21:52,279 --> 01:21:54,379 is usually not that address. 1669 01:21:54,379 --> 01:21:56,119 If they have that sort of summer or winter. 1670 01:21:56,119 --> 01:22:00,229 Oh, it's usually their summer home It varies. 1671 01:22:00,229 --> 01:22:02,569 Some are to the property owner out of state, 1672 01:22:02,569 --> 01:22:04,279 some are directly to that home. 1673 01:22:04,279 --> 01:22:06,576 So i mean, like, you know, I think my business where we have 1674 01:22:06,576 --> 01:22:08,509 people that go on hold because they're gone for two months 1675 01:22:08,509 --> 01:22:09,842 during the summer, I don't think they're 1676 01:22:09,842 --> 01:22:12,589 updating backpay for the two months to their address. 1677 01:22:12,589 --> 01:22:14,089 Yeah, but they could do mail forwarding. 1678 01:22:14,089 --> 01:22:16,309 So like you know, but that's just a concern. 1679 01:22:16,309 --> 01:22:20,539 I wouldn't want to see it go any lower than 6 or 9 months, 1680 01:22:20,539 --> 01:22:22,489 you know, just because I think it takes time 1681 01:22:22,489 --> 01:22:24,829 to for us to get the word out. 1682 01:22:24,829 --> 01:22:28,249 I understand on the to some of your point on the non 1683 01:22:28,249 --> 01:22:30,949 homestead I think you know by limiting it 1684 01:22:30,949 --> 01:22:36,088 to say you know residences that are you know 1 or 2 units right. 1685 01:22:36,088 --> 01:22:38,779 It's we're not giving big discounts 1686 01:22:38,779 --> 01:22:40,369 to huge commercial landlords that 1687 01:22:40,369 --> 01:22:41,663 are not taking advantage of it. 1688 01:22:41,663 --> 01:22:43,231 I'm okay with it maybe coming down a little. 1689 01:22:43,231 --> 01:22:45,349 But again, I think about the one gentleman who was a flight 1690 01:22:45,349 --> 01:22:48,139 attendant, I think for United who couldn't live in his place 1691 01:22:48,139 --> 01:22:50,449 because so it wasn't homesteaded yet 1692 01:22:50,449 --> 01:22:53,629 You know, he's he did absolutely become a resident you know, 1693 01:22:53,629 --> 01:22:54,469 like I want. 1694 01:22:54,469 --> 01:22:56,779 And I want him to come in on good terms, 1695 01:22:56,779 --> 01:22:58,939 not be able to get that you know, 1696 01:22:58,939 --> 01:23:01,519 to not say to only do it, say 50% like, you know, 1697 01:23:01,519 --> 01:23:04,583 I would kick him down a little, but not it not a whole time. 1698 01:23:04,583 --> 01:23:06,812 Are there leans current Lee on these properties 1699 01:23:06,812 --> 01:23:09,859 for these amounts of the linesmen already placed. 1700 01:23:09,859 --> 01:23:10,939 Yes, sir. 1701 01:23:10,939 --> 01:23:16,159 The lines were already there And I would imagine it would. 1702 01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:18,529 The letter state that, you know, you can 1703 01:23:18,529 --> 01:23:20,749 take advantage of this amnesty. 1704 01:23:20,749 --> 01:23:25,159 I mean, can we go ahead and fork close on the non 1705 01:23:25,159 --> 01:23:26,539 homestead it or. 1706 01:23:26,539 --> 01:23:28,742 That's what the program we're doing is the 14th. 1707 01:23:28,742 --> 01:23:30,129 So we don't have to. 1708 01:23:30,129 --> 01:23:31,516 So no, I understand. 1709 01:23:31,516 --> 01:23:35,419 But I would i would hope that the letter reiterates 1710 01:23:35,419 --> 01:23:38,839 that the this is an opportunity to clean it 1711 01:23:38,839 --> 01:23:41,479 up prior to foreclosure I like to see 1712 01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:42,799 the letter that they send out. 1713 01:23:42,799 --> 01:23:44,839 Yeah, but I, I guess for me, I would 1714 01:23:44,839 --> 01:23:47,571 like I would like it to include some type of should it should 1715 01:23:47,571 --> 01:23:48,240 I believe. 1716 01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,739 Do we send out a letter of didn't we recently to some 1717 01:23:50,739 --> 01:23:52,879 of those that were at the highest value that were 1718 01:23:52,879 --> 01:23:54,919 because we're so we started foreclosing now I think we've 1719 01:23:54,919 --> 01:23:56,449 sent out a letter with just letting them 1720 01:23:56,449 --> 01:23:57,501 know this was going to happen. 1721 01:23:57,501 --> 01:23:58,069 Yes, sir. 1722 01:23:58,069 --> 01:24:00,049 And it should be included again on this, to your point. 1723 01:24:00,049 --> 01:24:02,179 But I notice recently sent that letter out right 1724 01:24:02,179 --> 01:24:04,069 And I did have a question also. 1725 01:24:04,069 --> 01:24:07,339 This is for liens under 250,000. 1726 01:24:07,339 --> 01:24:10,429 There's several I just looked at them. 1727 01:24:10,429 --> 01:24:13,879 There's probably 7 or 8 that make up three. 1728 01:24:13,879 --> 01:24:18,289 And a half million dollars that are over 250,000. 1729 01:24:18,289 --> 01:24:22,339 What is the plan for those that are above that amount? 1730 01:24:22,339 --> 01:24:25,489 We are going to proceed with foreclosure action 1731 01:24:25,489 --> 01:24:30,327 as directed by this commission OK. 1732 01:24:30,327 --> 01:24:31,669 I'm good with that. 1733 01:24:31,669 --> 01:24:32,929 Yeah. 1734 01:24:32,929 --> 01:24:34,713 And those are most likely commercial properties. 1735 01:24:34,713 --> 01:24:35,319 I imagine. 1736 01:24:35,319 --> 01:24:38,207 Anyways, that wouldn't they also that wouldn't qualify. 1737 01:24:38,207 --> 01:24:38,806 Yeah. 1738 01:24:38,806 --> 01:24:39,405 Yeah. 1739 01:24:39,405 --> 01:24:44,359 Some of your have some did you take into consideration in terms 1740 01:24:44,359 --> 01:24:47,479 of the costs, the cost for the loans 1741 01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:48,739 have already been recorded. 1742 01:24:48,739 --> 01:24:53,959 The time and the cost to get that production off 1743 01:24:53,959 --> 01:24:56,179 or updated for this program? 1744 01:24:56,179 --> 01:24:58,849 No, sir But I thought we still are. 1745 01:24:58,849 --> 01:25:00,109 We're still collecting the cost. 1746 01:25:00,109 --> 01:25:01,949 The costs don't get reduced Is that correct? 1747 01:25:01,949 --> 01:25:02,449 Yeah. 1748 01:25:02,449 --> 01:25:05,789 Administrative fees So that still gets collected, 1749 01:25:05,789 --> 01:25:06,289 is there not? 1750 01:25:06,289 --> 01:25:07,853 Administrative fee when we end up 1751 01:25:07,853 --> 01:25:09,469 doing the lean that ultimately we are 1752 01:25:09,469 --> 01:25:10,594 therefore collecting that fee? 1753 01:25:10,594 --> 01:25:12,952 No matter what ? 1754 01:25:12,952 --> 01:25:14,162 Repeat the question. 1755 01:25:14,162 --> 01:25:16,279 So there's when we go through this 1756 01:25:16,279 --> 01:25:18,522 we charge an administrative fee as a lean gets applied. 1757 01:25:18,522 --> 01:25:19,022 Yes. 1758 01:25:19,022 --> 01:25:20,599 And that does not get discounted by this 1759 01:25:20,599 --> 01:25:21,919 and are still due for that full So 1760 01:25:21,919 --> 01:25:24,979 we're not we're not losing money on still collecting those fees. 1761 01:25:24,979 --> 01:25:25,799 Correct? 1762 01:25:25,799 --> 01:25:26,299 Yeah. 1763 01:25:26,299 --> 01:25:28,249 But we're still doing recording fees 1764 01:25:28,249 --> 01:25:31,309 for satisfaction of the claim since the liens already recorded 1765 01:25:31,309 --> 01:25:33,109 on the official records. 1766 01:25:33,109 --> 01:25:36,199 But we don't collect, we don't collect a fee to do that when 1767 01:25:36,199 --> 01:25:37,552 someone actually pays us on it. 1768 01:25:37,552 --> 01:25:38,419 Like it's built into that. 1769 01:25:38,419 --> 01:25:40,549 It's built into the cost of that. 1770 01:25:40,549 --> 01:25:41,599 I believe. 1771 01:25:41,599 --> 01:25:42,439 Are you asking that? 1772 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:46,009 Are we are you asking all we asking for an administrative fee 1773 01:25:46,009 --> 01:25:47,779 to release lean? 1774 01:25:47,779 --> 01:25:52,489 The answer is yes There is that built into the cost that 1775 01:25:52,489 --> 01:25:54,169 is built into this program. 1776 01:25:54,169 --> 01:25:55,583 Yes, sir OK. 1777 01:25:55,583 --> 01:25:56,790 To release a lean. 1778 01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:57,755 Yes, sir. 1779 01:25:57,755 --> 01:25:59,629 The separate fee Yeah. 1780 01:25:59,629 --> 01:26:00,959 All You're good. 1781 01:26:00,959 --> 01:26:01,459 I'm good. 1782 01:26:01,459 --> 01:26:04,699 I'm We're not going to go with commercial properties. 1783 01:26:04,699 --> 01:26:05,393 I'm good with that. 1784 01:26:05,393 --> 01:26:05,989 I'm all right. 1785 01:26:05,989 --> 01:26:07,549 We've changed that. 1786 01:26:07,549 --> 01:26:09,979 There I have a concern on the Homestead properties 1787 01:26:09,979 --> 01:26:14,659 because we can't go to foreclosure on them. 1788 01:26:14,659 --> 01:26:16,999 And we've had there was one recently 1789 01:26:16,999 --> 01:26:19,729 where they came before us. 1790 01:26:19,729 --> 01:26:23,149 We had to do a lease pendants I think it was 1791 01:26:23,149 --> 01:26:25,416 a dependence on city manager. 1792 01:26:25,416 --> 01:26:26,300 The attorney. 1793 01:26:26,300 --> 01:26:26,959 Yes. 1794 01:26:26,959 --> 01:26:31,909 Was it less pendants that file when there's action that 1795 01:26:31,909 --> 01:26:35,599 involves a piece of property to let the public and anyone 1796 01:26:35,599 --> 01:26:37,135 who is interested know that there 1797 01:26:37,135 --> 01:26:39,409 are some legal action pending? 1798 01:26:39,409 --> 01:26:42,865 What impact does this program have on that or does that have 1799 01:26:42,865 --> 01:26:45,919 has no real impact on this? 1800 01:26:45,919 --> 01:26:51,589 Pendants If a bank or or some other lienholder files 1801 01:26:51,589 --> 01:26:55,489 for foreclosure against the property in the city has a lane 1802 01:26:55,489 --> 01:26:57,949 the city will get notified of that lawsuit 1803 01:26:57,949 --> 01:27:01,369 and will respond accordingly So that list 1804 01:27:01,369 --> 01:27:05,479 Pendens is filed together with action for foreclosures. 1805 01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:09,889 Typically in this context, we've had a couple of circumstances 1806 01:27:09,889 --> 01:27:13,459 just the way the timing has worked out that a bank has filed 1807 01:27:13,459 --> 01:27:15,709 a list pendants as part of a foreclosure action, 1808 01:27:15,709 --> 01:27:19,939 and that occurred right before the city filed 1809 01:27:19,939 --> 01:27:22,789 the lean and the way our lean production 1810 01:27:22,789 --> 01:27:26,179 process works that has to be approved by the city commission. 1811 01:27:26,179 --> 01:27:28,219 And so we've had a couple of appeals that have come 1812 01:27:28,219 --> 01:27:32,869 before the commission where a lean has had to be removed 1813 01:27:32,869 --> 01:27:35,343 because it was filed after the Lisbon 1814 01:27:35,343 --> 01:27:38,689 that we don't have an administrate of process 1815 01:27:38,689 --> 01:27:42,049 for that in our code currently right? 1816 01:27:42,049 --> 01:27:47,959 So typically when you file a lean under or after list 1817 01:27:47,959 --> 01:27:50,793 pendants, you your lean is not valid 1818 01:27:50,793 --> 01:27:55,699 as against that particular lawsuit 1819 01:27:55,699 --> 01:27:57,234 and all these things have been filed already. 1820 01:27:57,234 --> 01:27:57,561 Right. 1821 01:27:57,561 --> 01:27:58,215 Everything is on. 1822 01:27:58,215 --> 01:27:59,197 There's already a lien filed. 1823 01:27:59,197 --> 01:28:02,449 So it's not doesn't affect that correct? 1824 01:28:02,449 --> 01:28:03,679 Correct. 1825 01:28:03,679 --> 01:28:04,639 Chief, I have a question. 1826 01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:07,909 I think I remember reading in one of your slides 1827 01:28:07,909 --> 01:28:10,510 that unqualified someone would be 1828 01:28:10,510 --> 01:28:11,959 is if they already went to the magistrate 1829 01:28:11,959 --> 01:28:13,919 for a lien reduction Is that accurate? 1830 01:28:13,919 --> 01:28:14,419 Right. 1831 01:28:14,419 --> 01:28:15,559 That is accurate. 1832 01:28:15,559 --> 01:28:18,569 And what's the purpose behind that? 1833 01:28:18,569 --> 01:28:24,049 You I believe that purpose, which I got from another city 1834 01:28:24,049 --> 01:28:26,239 would be you've already been offered a reduction 1835 01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:28,369 and now you're coming back for a second reduction 1836 01:28:28,369 --> 01:28:30,289 of that reduced amount. 1837 01:28:30,289 --> 01:28:32,899 See, I look at it, it's kind of a little bit different. 1838 01:28:32,899 --> 01:28:37,639 I look at is the person actually took the right steps appeared 1839 01:28:37,639 --> 01:28:39,036 in front of the magistrate. 1840 01:28:39,036 --> 01:28:40,369 Maybe they don't want to spend the money 1841 01:28:40,369 --> 01:28:42,979 to appeal to a commission knowing the way the commission 1842 01:28:42,979 --> 01:28:44,809 is not really reducing them. 1843 01:28:44,809 --> 01:28:46,279 And so they do all the right things 1844 01:28:46,279 --> 01:28:49,909 And then you have other people that just, you know, 1845 01:28:49,909 --> 01:28:51,889 thumb their nose at the city. 1846 01:28:51,889 --> 01:28:53,329 They don't respond to anything. 1847 01:28:53,329 --> 01:28:56,209 And now there's a lean, and we're going to offer them 80% 1848 01:28:56,209 --> 01:28:57,597 or someone else only got 50. 1849 01:28:57,597 --> 01:29:00,949 I don't know if that is this really to the reduction 1850 01:29:00,949 --> 01:29:02,562 in front of class process ? 1851 01:29:02,562 --> 01:29:05,198 Both the magistrate, if they went in front of the magistrate, 1852 01:29:05,198 --> 01:29:06,010 it's too late. 1853 01:29:06,010 --> 01:29:09,199 Oh, I don't to tip magistrate and in or the and/or 1854 01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:10,969 the commission also you know typically 1855 01:29:10,969 --> 01:29:14,089 what happens is the magistrate hears the matter. 1856 01:29:14,089 --> 01:29:17,539 It's a hearing and they've either reduced it 1857 01:29:17,539 --> 01:29:20,629 or not reduced it or reduced it somewhere in between 1858 01:29:20,629 --> 01:29:23,839 And that person, if they're in the line for trying 1859 01:29:23,839 --> 01:29:26,179 to go for amnesty, they haven't paid 1860 01:29:26,179 --> 01:29:28,939 Because once that reduction is given, 1861 01:29:28,939 --> 01:29:32,285 it's typically a 90 day or less provision to pay. 1862 01:29:32,285 --> 01:29:34,121 And they haven't paid it. 1863 01:29:34,121 --> 01:29:36,788 So it goes back to the original amount 1864 01:29:36,788 --> 01:29:39,465 we really talking a 90 day period potentially right? 1865 01:29:39,465 --> 01:29:41,251 Because otherwise they would have had to pay it. 1866 01:29:41,251 --> 01:29:42,679 But if they didn't, it wouldn't. 1867 01:29:42,679 --> 01:29:45,289 It's back up to 100, but then but everybody 1868 01:29:45,289 --> 01:29:47,159 has gone through the magistrate at 100% point. 1869 01:29:47,159 --> 01:29:47,659 Right. 1870 01:29:47,659 --> 01:29:49,159 Because every one eventually go goes through 1871 01:29:49,159 --> 01:29:51,971 to get the lean filed So to me, it's and I'm even 1872 01:29:51,971 --> 01:29:55,099 find by the way saying the last 90 days if you got something you 1873 01:29:55,099 --> 01:29:57,946 can now qualify for this program for the 90 day period right 1874 01:29:57,946 --> 01:30:01,752 to me, it's not that it's it's we're not doing this on 1875 01:30:01,752 --> 01:30:03,019 is the people that been in front of us 1876 01:30:03,019 --> 01:30:04,909 that we've given something to They can't come back. 1877 01:30:04,909 --> 01:30:06,890 That's what matters to me. 1878 01:30:06,890 --> 01:30:09,739 So you're fine that removing the magistrate piece if they went 1879 01:30:09,739 --> 01:30:11,653 to the magistrate but Yeah they still come back 1880 01:30:11,653 --> 01:30:14,539 and they can still be part of this process for that, right? 1881 01:30:14,539 --> 01:30:15,269 I think that's fine. 1882 01:30:15,269 --> 01:30:15,769 Yeah. 1883 01:30:15,769 --> 01:30:17,479 And I, they have a right to go to the magistrate 1884 01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:18,379 and argue their case. 1885 01:30:18,379 --> 01:30:19,812 You know, maybe they don't feel it's valid, 1886 01:30:19,812 --> 01:30:21,979 but most people don't go to the magistrate Right. 1887 01:30:21,979 --> 01:30:24,919 And the fines just keep accruing and those are the people we're 1888 01:30:24,919 --> 01:30:26,509 helping rather than people that try to do, 1889 01:30:26,509 --> 01:30:27,949 I think right I think it's fine for me 1890 01:30:27,949 --> 01:30:30,649 if you went to the magistrate you know me, 1891 01:30:30,649 --> 01:30:34,469 I go all the time out for a second, clarify some things 1892 01:30:34,469 --> 01:30:34,969 All right. 1893 01:30:34,969 --> 01:30:37,980 So no commercial properties right? 1894 01:30:37,980 --> 01:30:43,759 Correct we have is three or more units 1895 01:30:43,759 --> 01:30:46,759 Are we able to do like more than four? 1896 01:30:46,759 --> 01:30:51,379 Like there's a lot of quads and i know some of them have 1897 01:30:51,379 --> 01:30:53,239 there's issues with them. 1898 01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:58,099 One builder was looking to buy one, but to redevelop it 1899 01:30:58,099 --> 01:30:59,989 But I know that there is outstanding leans 1900 01:30:59,989 --> 01:31:03,259 on them I'm thinking that there's so 1901 01:31:03,259 --> 01:31:05,839 many quads throughout our city. 1902 01:31:05,839 --> 01:31:08,547 I those are not large. 1903 01:31:08,547 --> 01:31:10,619 They're usually lower income housing. 1904 01:31:10,619 --> 01:31:11,119 But. 1905 01:31:11,119 --> 01:31:12,259 But are we are we reducing it? 1906 01:31:12,259 --> 01:31:14,899 So then get sold to a developer at a higher you know, 1907 01:31:14,899 --> 01:31:16,939 that's right. 1908 01:31:16,939 --> 01:31:18,169 And it just to clarify, by the way, 1909 01:31:18,169 --> 01:31:20,062 on that, more than three units, it's more than three 1910 01:31:20,062 --> 01:31:20,900 units or non residential. 1911 01:31:20,900 --> 01:31:21,400 Right. 1912 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:21,973 Because any. 1913 01:31:21,973 --> 01:31:22,355 Right. 1914 01:31:22,355 --> 01:31:22,855 Right. 1915 01:31:22,855 --> 01:31:25,916 Just like that we're not what it was that you mean. 1916 01:31:25,916 --> 01:31:27,821 So in other words, an office building you 1917 01:31:27,821 --> 01:31:31,999 know or something like that Well commercial like commercial. 1918 01:31:31,999 --> 01:31:34,490 Okay so you guys want to work through three. 1919 01:31:34,490 --> 01:31:38,402 Well three or more area Yeah, but did you have a question? 1920 01:31:38,402 --> 01:31:42,409 I had a question about the lean these leans 1921 01:31:42,409 --> 01:31:44,059 are final, correct or no. 1922 01:31:44,059 --> 01:31:46,909 Are they still accumulating the ones for this program? 1923 01:31:46,909 --> 01:31:49,399 The vast majority are still accumulating. 1924 01:31:49,399 --> 01:31:51,444 They are to be in this process. 1925 01:31:51,444 --> 01:31:52,459 No they cannot. 1926 01:31:52,459 --> 01:31:55,219 They have to be in compliance, which is a consideration 1927 01:31:55,219 --> 01:31:56,659 for the time line. 1928 01:31:56,659 --> 01:31:58,609 Well, you don't want to make it too short because one 1929 01:31:58,609 --> 01:32:01,159 of the goals of this program is to encourage 1930 01:32:01,159 --> 01:32:03,767 property owners to come into compliance, and then time. 1931 01:32:03,767 --> 01:32:07,879 So if you make the timeline too short then those property owners 1932 01:32:07,879 --> 01:32:10,309 may not have time to come into compliance, which 1933 01:32:10,309 --> 01:32:12,499 is a large they can take some of this money 1934 01:32:12,499 --> 01:32:14,159 that they're not going to have to pay to fix 1935 01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:16,999 the properties which is what we want to do I mean, 1936 01:32:16,999 --> 01:32:18,739 it's not the fines as much as we want 1937 01:32:18,739 --> 01:32:22,309 to beautify our community by getting these pieces of property 1938 01:32:22,309 --> 01:32:23,239 in better shape. 1939 01:32:23,239 --> 01:32:25,759 So well let's be honest, if they were going to fix the property, 1940 01:32:25,759 --> 01:32:26,959 they would have did it two years ago 1941 01:32:26,959 --> 01:32:28,199 when the fines started Right? 1942 01:32:28,199 --> 01:32:28,699 True. 1943 01:32:28,699 --> 01:32:30,119 They're intentionally not right. 1944 01:32:30,119 --> 01:32:30,619 But. 1945 01:32:30,619 --> 01:32:31,119 But. 1946 01:32:31,119 --> 01:32:32,789 But they cannot get this unless they do so. 1947 01:32:32,789 --> 01:32:33,289 Appreciate it. 1948 01:32:33,289 --> 01:32:34,695 Gives you an incentive to do it. 1949 01:32:34,695 --> 01:32:36,803 So it be cheaper for them to fix whatever it is. 1950 01:32:36,803 --> 01:32:39,106 And then go to this than it would be to just keep going. 1951 01:32:39,106 --> 01:32:40,088 And then sell a property. 1952 01:32:40,088 --> 01:32:41,149 I believe that kind of right. 1953 01:32:41,149 --> 01:32:42,820 So I think it's a great idea. 1954 01:32:42,820 --> 01:32:44,806 And I like the way it's set up. 1955 01:32:44,806 --> 01:32:48,724 Those two changes that we made is there any with lower 1956 01:32:48,724 --> 01:32:53,449 that 80% 75%, 75? 1957 01:32:53,449 --> 01:32:58,789 Are you go with that I was thinking like 50 out of 50, 1958 01:32:58,789 --> 01:33:02,689 50 for the non homestead again, most of them 1959 01:33:02,689 --> 01:33:05,749 are else's or people are that are buying houses 1960 01:33:05,749 --> 01:33:07,189 and Airbnb being them out. 1961 01:33:07,189 --> 01:33:09,229 Those seem to be the ones that most of the problems. 1962 01:33:09,229 --> 01:33:11,574 I don't have sympathy for those people I don't either. 1963 01:33:11,574 --> 01:33:12,979 We're we're trying to do something here 1964 01:33:12,979 --> 01:33:16,075 and that it's not just about getting them off the books, 1965 01:33:16,075 --> 01:33:17,678 it's about getting the properties right where 1966 01:33:17,678 --> 01:33:19,740 we want it to be in our city. 1967 01:33:19,740 --> 01:33:23,929 So and they've also followed what other cities have done, 1968 01:33:23,929 --> 01:33:28,426 like we have the agreement here for Derby, for example. 1969 01:33:28,426 --> 01:33:31,639 Do we know how successful all that was? 1970 01:33:31,639 --> 01:33:32,886 Would you have that information? 1971 01:33:32,886 --> 01:33:34,126 We don't have that information. 1972 01:33:34,126 --> 01:33:35,366 No, sir, absolutely. 1973 01:33:35,366 --> 01:33:39,049 I can i think that 80% is more than most other cities 1974 01:33:39,049 --> 01:33:41,239 If you look at the backup materials, 1975 01:33:41,239 --> 01:33:44,269 I think we're probably on the extreme end. 1976 01:33:44,269 --> 01:33:46,052 For me, I don't want to go any lower than 75%. 1977 01:33:46,052 --> 01:33:46,819 I realize maybe others. 1978 01:33:46,819 --> 01:33:48,409 Well, but that would be kind of the low end because 1979 01:33:48,409 --> 01:33:49,976 of the situations that have been in front of us 1980 01:33:49,976 --> 01:33:51,799 before that i've seen that that's 1981 01:33:51,799 --> 01:33:55,699 who I'm trying to help anymore. 1982 01:33:55,699 --> 01:33:58,399 I sounds like 75% of those. 1983 01:33:58,399 --> 01:34:01,399 It does Any other questions? 1984 01:34:01,399 --> 01:34:04,999 So where's that 75% for the non homestead? 1985 01:34:04,999 --> 01:34:05,839 Correct. 1986 01:34:05,839 --> 01:34:09,449 And then for the final three months, I would say 65, right? 1987 01:34:09,449 --> 01:34:09,949 Yeah. 1988 01:34:09,949 --> 01:34:15,139 Just as a matter of and duration of the program. 1989 01:34:15,139 --> 01:34:19,219 You're and again, do we want to keep nine months. 1990 01:34:19,219 --> 01:34:23,356 I I mean, for me, that's a long time I understand 1991 01:34:23,356 --> 01:34:25,001 our city managers point. 1992 01:34:25,001 --> 01:34:30,379 But a homestead a property can get up to 90% for nine months. 1993 01:34:30,379 --> 01:34:33,139 I just feel like that's a very long time 1994 01:34:33,139 --> 01:34:34,729 But I think like we just talked about what 1995 01:34:34,729 --> 01:34:37,321 if somebody doesn't have the money to pay their fines? 1996 01:34:37,321 --> 01:34:40,909 They have, but they might have enough money to fix the 1997 01:34:40,909 --> 01:34:42,327 but they need to be to be compliance. 1998 01:34:42,327 --> 01:34:42,827 Again. 1999 01:34:42,827 --> 01:34:44,569 And then they get that 90% off. 2000 01:34:44,569 --> 01:34:47,119 So they actually saving money in the long run they'll do that. 2001 01:34:47,119 --> 01:34:50,179 But if they don't have enough money to pay what they owe, 2002 01:34:50,179 --> 01:34:52,219 now it's just going to keep going on. 2003 01:34:52,219 --> 01:34:56,719 I'm aware of at least 111 resident who i work with. 2004 01:34:56,719 --> 01:34:59,989 I think there was 5 or 6 months because frankly they done 2005 01:34:59,989 --> 01:35:01,009 some work without a permit. 2006 01:35:01,009 --> 01:35:02,709 But then to go back and redo it, it 2007 01:35:02,709 --> 01:35:04,339 became a much bigger deal to bring 2008 01:35:04,339 --> 01:35:05,419 everything else to code right? 2009 01:35:05,419 --> 01:35:07,319 On a 5 or 6 month project, at least, Right? 2010 01:35:07,319 --> 01:35:07,819 Yeah. 2011 01:35:07,819 --> 01:35:09,766 It's listen, you got to go through the process. 2012 01:35:09,766 --> 01:35:11,299 You got to find some, do some of these things. 2013 01:35:11,299 --> 01:35:15,707 I don't mind Nine months is a long time, but same time. 2014 01:35:15,707 --> 01:35:17,719 OK You got to give them time to do it. 2015 01:35:17,719 --> 01:35:19,699 Okay? 2016 01:35:19,699 --> 01:35:22,189 And frankly, that the line will still be accumulating daily 2017 01:35:22,189 --> 01:35:22,700 through that. 2018 01:35:22,700 --> 01:35:23,200 Through that. 2019 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:24,469 Well, until it's in compliance. 2020 01:35:24,469 --> 01:35:24,969 Right. 2021 01:35:24,969 --> 01:35:27,109 So we're going to all got to get more accurate. 2022 01:35:27,109 --> 01:35:28,669 It's to get more, but naturally it's 2023 01:35:28,669 --> 01:35:33,199 going to be a higher fine So the reductions on this big 2024 01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:35,449 if they opt not to take advantage of this, 2025 01:35:35,449 --> 01:35:37,639 are we allowed to charge interest 2026 01:35:37,639 --> 01:35:41,989 or interest on what interest on the outstanding balance? 2027 01:35:41,989 --> 01:35:45,079 No I'm not sure I understand. 2028 01:35:45,079 --> 01:35:47,659 If I recall Kerry as rolled making this comment, 2029 01:35:47,659 --> 01:35:48,509 he says, no, no. 2030 01:35:48,509 --> 01:35:49,009 Okay. 2031 01:35:49,009 --> 01:35:49,509 Yeah. 2032 01:35:49,509 --> 01:35:51,869 I think you discussed that before, Mary. 2033 01:35:51,869 --> 01:35:52,509 OK. 2034 01:35:52,509 --> 01:35:55,628 Because it's not a judgment Yeah, I know. 2035 01:35:55,628 --> 01:35:56,376 In the same sense. 2036 01:35:56,376 --> 01:35:56,876 Okay. 2037 01:35:56,876 --> 01:36:00,019 How much they take off you know, how much plantation is, 2038 01:36:00,019 --> 01:36:03,359 what their numbers are percentage wise. 2039 01:36:03,359 --> 01:36:03,859 I can't. 2040 01:36:03,859 --> 01:36:04,745 I mean, I have it right here. 2041 01:36:04,745 --> 01:36:05,245 Right. 2042 01:36:05,245 --> 01:36:13,699 So plantation is a 100% for both residential and commercial. 2043 01:36:13,699 --> 01:36:18,607 there you go Their program, rent for 181 days from 2020 22 2044 01:36:18,607 --> 01:36:20,029 to 2023. 2045 01:36:20,029 --> 01:36:22,489 Okay All right. 2046 01:36:22,489 --> 01:36:25,969 Any other questions or any other discussion here? 2047 01:36:25,969 --> 01:36:26,959 No, I'm good. 2048 01:36:26,959 --> 01:36:29,130 So your questions One year, the nine 2049 01:36:29,130 --> 01:36:34,641 months plus three months model, is that where we're going What? 2050 01:36:34,641 --> 01:36:35,719 What was that? 2051 01:36:35,719 --> 01:36:38,719 Yeah, the duration post I think it was actually 2052 01:36:38,719 --> 01:36:40,129 the duration as proposed. 2053 01:36:40,129 --> 01:36:41,639 As proposed down here. 2054 01:36:41,639 --> 01:36:42,139 Yeah. 2055 01:36:42,139 --> 01:36:42,319 All right. 2056 01:36:42,319 --> 01:36:43,009 Thank you. 2057 01:36:43,009 --> 01:36:43,639 I have everything. 2058 01:36:43,639 --> 01:36:44,299 Thank you. 2059 01:36:44,299 --> 01:36:46,159 All right Any other hearing? 2060 01:36:46,159 --> 01:36:46,999 No, no. 2061 01:36:46,999 --> 01:36:50,839 Call the question, please Yes? 2062 01:36:50,839 --> 01:36:51,529 Can you hear me? 2063 01:36:51,529 --> 01:36:52,999 Sorry Apologize. 2064 01:36:52,999 --> 01:36:55,879 Vice Mayor Caputo Yes, Commissioner Dami, Neo. 2065 01:36:55,879 --> 01:36:56,449 Yes. 2066 01:36:56,449 --> 01:36:57,389 Commissioner Brockie. 2067 01:36:57,389 --> 01:36:57,889 Yes. 2068 01:36:57,889 --> 01:36:58,699 Commissioner Rowley. 2069 01:36:58,699 --> 01:36:59,270 Yes. 2070 01:36:59,270 --> 01:37:03,653 Amir Newton Yes So, all right. 2071 01:37:03,653 --> 01:37:08,899 A commission request report in Thank you. 2072 01:37:08,899 --> 01:37:09,469 Mr. Mayor. 2073 01:37:09,469 --> 01:37:12,109 This is Follow up to an item that 2074 01:37:12,109 --> 01:37:14,599 was raised at a previous commission meeting. 2075 01:37:14,599 --> 01:37:17,389 Staff was asked to read a document out 2076 01:37:17,389 --> 01:37:20,479 for you outlining all of the recent requests 2077 01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:25,489 that the commission has made for future action items This is 2078 01:37:25,489 --> 01:37:28,099 separate and apart from the Strategic Initiatives report 2079 01:37:28,099 --> 01:37:30,649 that you adopted a few meetings ago. 2080 01:37:30,649 --> 01:37:33,739 The report that you requested is included in the backup 2081 01:37:33,739 --> 01:37:35,209 of tonight's agenda. 2082 01:37:35,209 --> 01:37:38,209 It's our intention to continually update that. 2083 01:37:38,209 --> 01:37:43,609 So a status changes or the Commission requests new items 2084 01:37:43,609 --> 01:37:47,869 that will be updated and provided to your regular Any 2085 01:37:47,869 --> 01:37:52,429 questions for the city manager No. 2086 01:37:52,429 --> 01:37:53,839 Okay. 2087 01:37:53,839 --> 01:37:56,929 We'll move on A discussion of rezoning parcels generally 2088 01:37:56,929 --> 01:37:59,239 located south of northeast 25th Street, 2089 01:37:59,239 --> 01:38:02,749 west of northeast 15th Avenue, north of New River and east 2090 01:38:02,749 --> 01:38:06,409 of the FCC, tracks that have a land use designation of T or C 2091 01:38:06,409 --> 01:38:12,949 two, a zoning designation of two U.S. East Roberta 2092 01:38:12,949 --> 01:38:15,799 Good evening Good evening. 2093 01:38:15,799 --> 01:38:20,222 What do you got for us from her two more committed on services 2094 01:38:20,222 --> 01:38:20,722 director. 2095 01:38:20,722 --> 01:38:23,419 So tonight is a discussion on whether or not the commission 2096 01:38:23,419 --> 01:38:25,879 would like to proceed forward with the rezoning 2097 01:38:25,879 --> 01:38:31,489 of the properties that are east of the fEC tracks south 2098 01:38:31,489 --> 01:38:34,519 of northeast 25th Street, down through 2099 01:38:34,519 --> 01:38:39,829 College Park This is actually the area 2100 01:38:39,829 --> 01:38:43,309 of discussion for this evening. 2101 01:38:43,309 --> 01:38:47,059 But Mayor if I may actually, before we start 2102 01:38:47,059 --> 01:38:48,649 through this discussion is just to go 2103 01:38:48,649 --> 01:38:50,389 over very briefly, the difference 2104 01:38:50,389 --> 01:38:53,179 between land use and zoning. 2105 01:38:53,179 --> 01:38:57,199 So land use is governed by the city's comprehensive plan 2106 01:38:57,199 --> 01:38:59,809 and it does identify the long term vision 2107 01:38:59,809 --> 01:39:03,829 for those for those specific properties where zoning 2108 01:39:03,829 --> 01:39:05,899 actually identifies what those uses 2109 01:39:05,899 --> 01:39:07,729 are with that specific uses. 2110 01:39:07,729 --> 01:39:11,239 So that's really a very basic difference between those two. 2111 01:39:11,239 --> 01:39:12,679 So when we look at development, we 2112 01:39:12,679 --> 01:39:15,196 have to look at the land use of the property first 2113 01:39:15,196 --> 01:39:18,129 and then from there, we're able to determine what 2114 01:39:18,129 --> 01:39:19,489 those overall uses would be. 2115 01:39:19,489 --> 01:39:25,018 And then we have to do the analysis based on zoning 2116 01:39:25,018 --> 01:39:26,509 So the area in question. 2117 01:39:26,509 --> 01:39:28,699 This is again, it's all land use. 2118 01:39:28,699 --> 01:39:33,019 Yossi So back when the city did this, I believe it was in 2013, 2119 01:39:33,019 --> 01:39:35,599 we did identify all of this areas Part of our 2120 01:39:35,599 --> 01:39:39,979 to see I remember how many single family 2121 01:39:39,979 --> 01:39:47,729 homes are in that area We did not do that analysis. 2122 01:39:47,729 --> 01:39:50,299 OK We can have that analysis done, 2123 01:39:50,299 --> 01:39:52,609 though, if the commission decides 2124 01:39:52,609 --> 01:39:54,709 to proceed forward, no problem. 2125 01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:59,659 So this is the area where the the zoning is. 2126 01:39:59,659 --> 01:40:01,879 We've identified one parcel on here that was 2127 01:40:01,879 --> 01:40:03,592 rezone through the generations. 2128 01:40:03,592 --> 01:40:05,389 Allow year. 2129 01:40:05,389 --> 01:40:08,719 So that's why it's not included even though on our zoning map, 2130 01:40:08,719 --> 01:40:10,969 it is still a multifamily. 2131 01:40:10,969 --> 01:40:13,880 So the existing zoning designation 2132 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,359 are 16, which is multifamily, 16 units an acre 2133 01:40:17,359 --> 01:40:25,039 and r D ten, which is multi family ten units an acre So 2134 01:40:25,039 --> 01:40:26,308 that is the presentation. 2135 01:40:26,308 --> 01:40:29,818 It is the gist of where where we are going 2136 01:40:29,818 --> 01:40:32,945 is the area in question is here, whether or not 2137 01:40:32,945 --> 01:40:34,669 the commission would like for staff 2138 01:40:34,669 --> 01:40:36,349 to proceed forward with it. 2139 01:40:36,349 --> 01:40:39,469 We did do an analysis of costs. 2140 01:40:39,469 --> 01:40:42,636 If the commission does decide to proceed forward. 2141 01:40:42,636 --> 01:40:46,369 And it is roughly a little over $3,000, 2142 01:40:46,369 --> 01:40:48,859 which does include the consultant, 2143 01:40:48,859 --> 01:40:52,645 we need a sketch and legal description for the area. 2144 01:40:52,645 --> 01:40:56,299 And then staff time and all of our other advertisement 2145 01:40:56,299 --> 01:41:00,589 requirements, as well as postings Any questions for 2146 01:41:00,589 --> 01:41:06,289 roberto or thank you, Roberta. 2147 01:41:06,289 --> 01:41:09,649 Roberta, You just said that the zoning is armed. 2148 01:41:09,649 --> 01:41:11,839 16 and already ten. 2149 01:41:11,839 --> 01:41:12,859 Would it not be ours? 2150 01:41:12,859 --> 01:41:15,799 Five Also rather essential selling of family? 2151 01:41:15,799 --> 01:41:16,309 No. 2152 01:41:16,309 --> 01:41:19,219 The again, the zoning map only identifies those two 2153 01:41:19,219 --> 01:41:20,569 within the specific area. 2154 01:41:20,569 --> 01:41:21,499 That's in question. 2155 01:41:21,499 --> 01:41:23,539 So there may be single families, but they're 2156 01:41:23,539 --> 01:41:25,639 not zoned single families. 2157 01:41:25,639 --> 01:41:28,009 There may be uses of US uses. 2158 01:41:28,009 --> 01:41:31,039 So this so right now what we call it in the planning world 2159 01:41:31,039 --> 01:41:33,409 is there's inconsistencies between the land 2160 01:41:33,409 --> 01:41:34,459 use and the zoning. 2161 01:41:34,459 --> 01:41:37,939 So this process or project would be, 2162 01:41:37,939 --> 01:41:40,609 you know, making that consistent between the two. 2163 01:41:40,609 --> 01:41:44,089 And because the underlying land uses TLC, 2164 01:41:44,089 --> 01:41:47,089 would that require a mixed use development here? 2165 01:41:47,089 --> 01:41:47,929 Currently? 2166 01:41:47,929 --> 01:41:49,099 Not necessarily. 2167 01:41:49,099 --> 01:41:51,079 But again when we do the rezoning, 2168 01:41:51,079 --> 01:41:55,609 we do reevaluate Article 30 because we also have to identify 2169 01:41:55,609 --> 01:41:57,559 heights within the area. 2170 01:41:57,559 --> 01:42:00,921 So we have the hub map, which identifies 2171 01:42:00,921 --> 01:42:04,279 all of the heights within the Tosa area 2172 01:42:04,279 --> 01:42:05,719 within the urban center. 2173 01:42:05,719 --> 01:42:10,759 Okay And my understanding is the city manager I 2174 01:42:10,759 --> 01:42:13,969 believe you did a an appraisal. 2175 01:42:13,969 --> 01:42:16,909 Did you get some type of input or property? 2176 01:42:16,909 --> 01:42:19,069 We have an informal appraisal and we've 2177 01:42:19,069 --> 01:42:22,939 engaged with an appraiser to look at the two properties 2178 01:42:22,939 --> 01:42:25,039 that the city owns that are within this district. 2179 01:42:25,039 --> 01:42:29,029 And we have asked for the property 2180 01:42:29,029 --> 01:42:33,169 to be value at the existing zoning and the potential 2181 01:42:33,169 --> 01:42:35,749 of it to is zoning. 2182 01:42:35,749 --> 01:42:37,533 We don't have any results yet. 2183 01:42:37,533 --> 01:42:40,780 No, it will take, I think, 4 to 6 weeks. 2184 01:42:40,780 --> 01:42:44,425 OK OK. 2185 01:42:44,425 --> 01:42:47,269 I guess for me, I had added this to the list 2186 01:42:47,269 --> 01:42:50,479 because I have an issue any time there's 2187 01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:55,339 a difference between land use and zoning, it's confusing. 2188 01:42:55,339 --> 01:43:01,159 I don't know how long ago, this was designated TLC 2189 01:43:01,159 --> 01:43:04,129 or what the purpose of making the land use TLC, 2190 01:43:04,129 --> 01:43:07,969 but not having the zoning follow. 2191 01:43:07,969 --> 01:43:14,105 So that's why I added that to the list for discussion 2192 01:43:14,105 --> 01:43:17,621 The Roberto why were why was the area 2193 01:43:17,621 --> 01:43:21,548 and have a reason to toss east. 2194 01:43:21,548 --> 01:43:27,589 So i was not here when the taxes zoning was created. 2195 01:43:27,589 --> 01:43:32,329 We didn't make attempts to try to find historical documentation 2196 01:43:32,329 --> 01:43:36,949 as far as justification to why staff didn't choose to include 2197 01:43:36,949 --> 01:43:40,969 certain areas, meaning specifically this the only thing 2198 01:43:40,969 --> 01:43:43,669 that we could even contemplate is 2199 01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:47,798 that there was potentially resident opposition in order 2200 01:43:47,798 --> 01:43:49,384 to do that. 2201 01:43:49,384 --> 01:43:52,639 But again, it's there's no count formation. 2202 01:43:52,639 --> 01:43:57,292 We couldn't find any notes or anything Okay. 2203 01:43:57,292 --> 01:44:02,359 That so what is your recommendation 2204 01:44:02,359 --> 01:44:04,549 This is something that we need to do. 2205 01:44:04,549 --> 01:44:07,339 I would recommend proceeding forward with the rezoning. 2206 01:44:07,339 --> 01:44:07,909 Okay. 2207 01:44:07,909 --> 01:44:10,999 Do you think we need to get resident input from this area? 2208 01:44:10,999 --> 01:44:11,839 Absolutely. 2209 01:44:11,839 --> 01:44:15,829 So part of the cost analysis does include workshop 2210 01:44:15,829 --> 01:44:18,889 and meeting with the residents in the public to notify them 2211 01:44:18,889 --> 01:44:23,329 of the process So our typical outreach that we would do, 2212 01:44:23,329 --> 01:44:25,999 okay, are there other areas of our city 2213 01:44:25,999 --> 01:44:33,349 that are zoned differently that can we just do collective one 2214 01:44:33,349 --> 01:44:35,495 view of every area? 2215 01:44:35,495 --> 01:44:36,649 It doesn't work that way. 2216 01:44:36,649 --> 01:44:40,229 So we can't do one ordinance to rezone certain areas. 2217 01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:42,439 We would have to And it's something 2218 01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,259 it's an analysis that we've been doing slowly over time 2219 01:44:45,259 --> 01:44:47,899 is what are going parcel by parcel to see 2220 01:44:47,899 --> 01:44:51,019 the inconsistencies or consistencies 2221 01:44:51,019 --> 01:44:53,779 and then figuring out a game plan from there 2222 01:44:53,779 --> 01:44:55,489 on how we address it. 2223 01:44:55,489 --> 01:44:58,519 Yeah, I'm not so worried about like the random parcel of this 2224 01:44:58,519 --> 01:45:03,471 is like a big chunk of area that I can't even see from the map. 2225 01:45:03,471 --> 01:45:05,683 There's 50 parcels, I'm not sure. 2226 01:45:05,683 --> 01:45:06,799 But right. 2227 01:45:06,799 --> 01:45:09,079 It's not like a random parcel that we're looking at. 2228 01:45:09,079 --> 01:45:10,335 Other areas in the city. 2229 01:45:10,335 --> 01:45:14,719 It has like a large swath of No, not like this, about 80 units. 2230 01:45:14,719 --> 01:45:20,646 I think Oh, no, I'm good Yeah. 2231 01:45:20,646 --> 01:45:21,589 All right. 2232 01:45:21,589 --> 01:45:24,019 I'm good. 2233 01:45:24,019 --> 01:45:26,989 So I guess we want to go forward with this 2234 01:45:26,989 --> 01:45:32,419 And the city manager you have direction from commission 2235 01:45:32,419 --> 01:45:38,869 Any questions for us No, thank you, Roberta. 2236 01:45:38,869 --> 01:45:45,259 My typical question for the next commission meeting, 2237 01:45:45,259 --> 01:45:50,539 I know that we're we have two more items on the list. 2238 01:45:50,539 --> 01:45:55,039 One is square footage, minimum square footage and conversion. 2239 01:45:55,039 --> 01:45:57,889 And then we will be bringing back at a future meeting 2240 01:45:57,889 --> 01:46:03,169 the discussion of the heights 40 or C West to finishing 2241 01:46:03,169 --> 01:46:04,208 that analysis here. 2242 01:46:04,208 --> 01:46:04,708 Right. 2243 01:46:04,708 --> 01:46:05,208 Yeah. 2244 01:46:05,208 --> 01:46:06,739 We had two of us aren't here. 2245 01:46:06,739 --> 01:46:08,629 I was I would rather not discuss it. 2246 01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:12,201 Yeah, I agree and then the June 10 meeting 2247 01:46:12,201 --> 01:46:14,403 it is anticipated that the one hour project 2248 01:46:14,403 --> 01:46:16,309 will be before the commission. 2249 01:46:16,309 --> 01:46:16,909 So let's do it. 2250 01:46:16,909 --> 01:46:18,006 The Second meeting in June. 2251 01:46:18,006 --> 01:46:24,319 And I will not be here First meeting in July 2027. 2252 01:46:24,319 --> 01:46:25,944 No In the first meeting of July. 2253 01:46:25,944 --> 01:46:28,159 Like summer Or is our first meeting in August? 2254 01:46:28,159 --> 01:46:29,311 Oh, yes. 2255 01:46:29,311 --> 01:46:32,389 Oh Can you tell me what what meeting 2256 01:46:32,389 --> 01:46:33,919 Would you like to have it to the next one. 2257 01:46:33,919 --> 01:46:35,749 Whatever You and everyone you're comfortable with. 2258 01:46:35,749 --> 01:46:40,139 Just like we going to this one right? 2259 01:46:40,139 --> 01:46:40,639 Yeah. 2260 01:46:40,639 --> 01:46:41,689 Okay. 2261 01:46:41,689 --> 01:46:42,679 Thank you All right. 2262 01:46:42,679 --> 01:46:44,629 Thank you. 2263 01:46:44,629 --> 01:46:49,129 City Manager Report All right, City Attorney. 2264 01:46:49,129 --> 01:46:51,259 Nothing Can I just ask you a question? 2265 01:46:51,259 --> 01:46:54,898 Sure I'm several months ago. 2266 01:46:54,898 --> 01:46:58,009 We increased the fees for non residents 2267 01:46:58,009 --> 01:46:59,754 for some of the park uses. 2268 01:46:59,754 --> 01:47:02,082 And I was just wondering if there's 2269 01:47:02,082 --> 01:47:07,189 been any feedback on that or any reduction of you 2270 01:47:07,189 --> 01:47:11,059 know, people that request commission request 2271 01:47:11,059 --> 01:47:13,549 report that's up for tonight. 2272 01:47:13,549 --> 01:47:17,629 We're scheduled to bring that to you by June 10th. 2273 01:47:17,629 --> 01:47:20,719 We do have an analysis of how that rate 2274 01:47:20,719 --> 01:47:24,622 change has affected revenue from park rentals and OK. 2275 01:47:24,622 --> 01:47:25,471 Thank you. 2276 01:47:25,471 --> 01:47:28,009 It might be the next meeting We might 2277 01:47:28,009 --> 01:47:29,419 be ready for the next meeting. 2278 01:47:29,419 --> 01:47:32,629 Yeah, I think it's affected more of our our rentals. 2279 01:47:32,629 --> 01:47:35,869 I think more than the tennis because tennis holiday park is 2280 01:47:35,869 --> 01:47:38,329 closed for two years for renovations 2281 01:47:38,329 --> 01:47:40,879 So everybody's looking for tennis courts 2282 01:47:40,879 --> 01:47:44,865 right now that just to throw it in when that analysis comes. 2283 01:47:44,865 --> 01:47:47,135 I hope it on that the percentage utilization 2284 01:47:47,135 --> 01:47:48,379 not just change in revenue. 2285 01:47:48,379 --> 01:47:49,849 Yes, I think some of it is we wanted 2286 01:47:49,849 --> 01:47:51,769 it to be more available for utilization you know, 2287 01:47:51,769 --> 01:47:52,759 by residents. 2288 01:47:52,759 --> 01:47:57,212 Right City Attorney I have nothing. 2289 01:47:57,212 --> 01:47:57,712 All right. 2290 01:47:57,712 --> 01:48:00,019 Thank you very much Okay. 2291 01:48:00,019 --> 01:48:01,579 We need to select a chair for the may 2292 01:48:01,579 --> 01:48:03,289 27th Commission meeting and absence 2293 01:48:03,289 --> 01:48:10,129 of me and the vice mayor Other. 2294 01:48:10,129 --> 01:48:13,609 All right What do you think? 2295 01:48:13,609 --> 01:48:15,199 That's what I don't know. 2296 01:48:15,199 --> 01:48:18,049 So we discussed this I'm good. 2297 01:48:18,049 --> 01:48:20,689 And then you're not going away together. 2298 01:48:20,689 --> 01:48:21,559 I already clarified. 2299 01:48:21,559 --> 01:48:23,029 Yes. 2300 01:48:23,029 --> 01:48:24,259 You both had enough for a week. 2301 01:48:24,259 --> 01:48:24,949 That's it. 2302 01:48:24,949 --> 01:48:31,639 So now we need a vice mayor Well, we're going You'll do it. 2303 01:48:31,639 --> 01:48:33,169 Okay so. 2304 01:48:33,169 --> 01:48:33,889 So you're right. 2305 01:48:33,889 --> 01:48:36,260 Our left is going to take care of being mayor and vice mayor. 2306 01:48:36,260 --> 01:48:40,789 Their next meeting I thought when I did this I'm 2307 01:48:40,789 --> 01:48:44,029 pretty good about making sure I'm not missing a meeting 2308 01:48:44,029 --> 01:48:46,879 But I'm going away and have to be. 2309 01:48:46,879 --> 01:48:49,459 I missing it by one day. 2310 01:48:49,459 --> 01:48:51,829 So And I'm not going to change something 2311 01:48:51,829 --> 01:48:53,779 I've had planned for over a year, 2312 01:48:53,779 --> 01:48:56,599 but so I'm going to miss it. 2313 01:48:56,599 --> 01:48:59,130 But sorry, you guys. 2314 01:48:59,130 --> 01:49:01,369 Take over for an okay All right. 2315 01:49:01,369 --> 01:49:04,429 Discussion of sponsor request for a Stonewall Pride 2316 01:49:04,429 --> 01:49:07,339 parade and Street Festival. 2317 01:49:07,339 --> 01:49:10,273 City Manager Absolutely. 2318 01:49:10,273 --> 01:49:13,849 They did receive a request from Jeff Sterling, 2319 01:49:13,849 --> 01:49:19,669 who is the cEO of Stonewall Pride Inc one that runs 2320 01:49:19,669 --> 01:49:25,249 our annual Stonewall Festival The request is for 50,000 2321 01:49:25,249 --> 01:49:28,369 for sponsorship level that was provided by the city 2322 01:49:28,369 --> 01:49:31,549 for the 2024 events. 2323 01:49:31,549 --> 01:49:33,109 He's present this evening. 2324 01:49:33,109 --> 01:49:37,464 If you have any questions for him 2325 01:49:37,464 --> 01:49:46,649 come up the name and address, please Yeah your road. 2326 01:49:46,649 --> 01:49:49,729 But you stay right now. 2327 01:49:49,729 --> 01:49:51,619 It's 8:45. 2328 01:49:51,619 --> 01:49:53,299 Jeffrey Sterling 2435. 2329 01:49:53,299 --> 01:49:54,739 North Dixie Highway Wilton Manors, 2330 01:49:54,739 --> 01:49:58,459 Florida Scott Holland 649. 2331 01:49:58,459 --> 01:49:59,149 West Oakland Park. 2332 01:49:59,149 --> 01:50:04,529 Wilbur boulevard will to manage Florida Okay. 2333 01:50:04,529 --> 01:50:08,305 The so quick summary, we all know what we did last year. 2334 01:50:08,305 --> 01:50:11,689 Last year, we had $100,000 a one time gift money half from you 2335 01:50:11,689 --> 01:50:13,369 and half from Crowder together. 2336 01:50:13,369 --> 01:50:17,479 All right So I knew going into this game that we were going 2337 01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:19,609 to be about $150,000 short. 2338 01:50:19,609 --> 01:50:21,140 I let you guys know want to give the report? 2339 01:50:21,140 --> 01:50:24,469 I wasn't close all this by myself. 2340 01:50:24,469 --> 01:50:28,669 So what we got was i figured out 50 of it. 2341 01:50:28,669 --> 01:50:31,129 So that left us still 100 short. 2342 01:50:31,129 --> 01:50:33,499 But I can close that last 50. 2343 01:50:33,499 --> 01:50:37,152 I just need help with the 50 from the city we have. 2344 01:50:37,152 --> 01:50:39,919 If you want to compare to last year. 2345 01:50:39,919 --> 01:50:43,459 So if we bring in the 50,000 from the city, 2346 01:50:43,459 --> 01:50:49,009 the 50,001 time from Crowder together we covered 42,000. 2347 01:50:49,009 --> 01:50:53,091 So we did close a gap of one time money from last year 2348 01:50:53,091 --> 01:50:54,109 to this year. 2349 01:50:54,109 --> 01:50:57,679 It just closing to that large amount was really rough. 2350 01:50:57,679 --> 01:51:00,199 We all know what this environment's like. 2351 01:51:00,199 --> 01:51:04,189 I don't need to go into detail of that So we have had the same 2352 01:51:04,189 --> 01:51:06,199 sponsorship levels other than the one 2353 01:51:06,199 --> 01:51:09,933 time gifts like this roughly $180,000, 2354 01:51:09,933 --> 01:51:15,199 185 from 22, 23 and 24. 2355 01:51:15,199 --> 01:51:19,370 And it looks like that's where we're going to be in 25. 2356 01:51:19,370 --> 01:51:23,149 So we had Covid and then our environment changed So 2357 01:51:23,149 --> 01:51:25,879 do we really should be growing 10% a month 2358 01:51:25,879 --> 01:51:28,849 because expense is, as we all know, 2359 01:51:28,849 --> 01:51:30,709 because all of our expenses go up. 2360 01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:32,089 They keep climbing. 2361 01:51:32,089 --> 01:51:34,909 But we've not been able to move that same meter 2362 01:51:34,909 --> 01:51:38,419 with the sponsorships and we don't anticipate 2363 01:51:38,419 --> 01:51:39,709 we think we're going to hit our mark 2364 01:51:39,709 --> 01:51:41,509 and everything else that we predicted to you, 2365 01:51:41,509 --> 01:51:42,732 income level wise. 2366 01:51:42,732 --> 01:51:44,858 I redid the numbers a couple weeks ago. 2367 01:51:44,858 --> 01:51:46,669 And we're still on point only variable. 2368 01:51:46,669 --> 01:51:49,699 We have obviously is admission because it's 2369 01:51:49,699 --> 01:51:51,919 too early to judge anything. 2370 01:51:51,919 --> 01:51:54,349 We won't know that until roughly ten days 2371 01:51:54,349 --> 01:51:57,109 out to start comparing against last year, 2372 01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:58,849 but we're comping into that. 2373 01:51:58,849 --> 01:52:02,839 Our numbers are solid in that area Oh, 2374 01:52:02,839 --> 01:52:07,039 in the grant that you guys talked about, 2375 01:52:07,039 --> 01:52:08,749 if we if we're awarded the grant, 2376 01:52:08,749 --> 01:52:10,189 that money would revert to you. 2377 01:52:10,189 --> 01:52:11,839 It come to us, it revert to you. 2378 01:52:11,839 --> 01:52:14,719 And you guys did submit the grant last week. 2379 01:52:14,719 --> 01:52:17,749 I believe, to the county Can you repeat what you just said? 2380 01:52:17,749 --> 01:52:19,399 So so there's so we would potentially 2381 01:52:19,399 --> 01:52:20,981 get this reimbursed back. 2382 01:52:20,981 --> 01:52:21,824 I missed. 2383 01:52:21,824 --> 01:52:22,387 Yes. 2384 01:52:22,387 --> 01:52:25,197 So I forget how much grand was for 25, 2385 01:52:25,197 --> 01:52:26,929 I don't know what was sent. 2386 01:52:26,929 --> 01:52:29,543 I didn't see was city manager. 2387 01:52:29,543 --> 01:52:31,196 50 plus 50. 2388 01:52:31,196 --> 01:52:34,169 OK So is that a state grant or a federal grant? 2389 01:52:34,169 --> 01:52:34,669 It's there. 2390 01:52:34,669 --> 01:52:36,223 The county cultural division. 2391 01:52:36,223 --> 01:52:36,907 OK. 2392 01:52:36,907 --> 01:52:41,422 So potentially we give the money If the county grants the grant 2393 01:52:41,422 --> 01:52:43,562 then we just get it back right? 2394 01:52:43,562 --> 01:52:44,097 Basically. 2395 01:52:44,097 --> 01:52:44,632 Correct. 2396 01:52:44,632 --> 01:52:46,879 OK And I understand that that they've 2397 01:52:46,879 --> 01:52:50,659 been for multi-year events like this, that they generally 2398 01:52:50,659 --> 01:52:52,639 the outlook has looks good, at least from other events 2399 01:52:52,639 --> 01:52:53,839 I'm involved that are applying. 2400 01:52:53,839 --> 01:52:55,759 They all seem to be getting positive feedback 2401 01:52:55,759 --> 01:52:57,049 that they're going to maybe, I guess, 2402 01:52:57,049 --> 01:52:58,309 kind of tell a different here. 2403 01:52:58,309 --> 01:53:01,056 It seems like a lot of events that are multi-year established, 2404 01:53:01,056 --> 01:53:02,689 it doesn't seem like it's very difficult for them 2405 01:53:02,689 --> 01:53:03,589 to get the right right. 2406 01:53:03,589 --> 01:53:06,949 So just like last year, you know although Jeff 2407 01:53:06,949 --> 01:53:08,479 Sterling and Hot Spots is the promoter, 2408 01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:10,013 this is a Wilton Manors event. 2409 01:53:10,013 --> 01:53:13,007 And I think we should be a sponsor of it. 2410 01:53:13,007 --> 01:53:16,999 And i'm happy to support that 50,000 like we did last year, 2411 01:53:16,999 --> 01:53:20,389 especially in these times where sponsors are 2412 01:53:20,389 --> 01:53:21,809 decreasing or staying the same. 2413 01:53:21,809 --> 01:53:22,309 Right? 2414 01:53:22,309 --> 01:53:24,979 We're not able there's a lot of products across the country that 2415 01:53:24,979 --> 01:53:27,439 are losing their sponsorships due to the nature 2416 01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,359 of the environment. 2417 01:53:29,359 --> 01:53:32,192 So I've i've had some discussions with Jeff. 2418 01:53:32,192 --> 01:53:33,675 I have torn apart his panel. 2419 01:53:33,675 --> 01:53:35,659 And in some cases him, which I apologize for. 2420 01:53:35,659 --> 01:53:37,939 But he's been very responsive about it 2421 01:53:37,939 --> 01:53:41,269 I had said previously that I would not support 2422 01:53:41,269 --> 01:53:44,509 any sponsorship because the event did so well last year 2423 01:53:44,509 --> 01:53:46,725 financially Some things have changed, 2424 01:53:46,725 --> 01:53:49,297 but one of the things that has me open to considering it 2425 01:53:49,297 --> 01:53:50,617 is there's a new. 2426 01:53:50,617 --> 01:53:55,069 I see a line item for metal detectors which is a new $35,000 2427 01:53:55,069 --> 01:53:58,404 increase cost that that you're bearing because we're requiring 2428 01:53:58,404 --> 01:53:59,129 metal detectors. 2429 01:53:59,129 --> 01:54:01,469 I understand we're not requiring that particular model. 2430 01:54:01,469 --> 01:54:02,249 But for. 2431 01:54:02,249 --> 01:54:03,961 We've also required that the line move efficiently. 2432 01:54:03,961 --> 01:54:05,413 And so you went with that model. 2433 01:54:05,413 --> 01:54:07,909 So the line moves efficiently. 2434 01:54:07,909 --> 01:54:10,782 Just as a general kind of comment you know, 2435 01:54:10,782 --> 01:54:12,608 we have to bear in mind. 2436 01:54:12,608 --> 01:54:16,039 And it's chief's job, but she's done very well is ensuring 2437 01:54:16,039 --> 01:54:17,299 people are safe above all else. 2438 01:54:17,299 --> 01:54:17,959 Right. 2439 01:54:17,959 --> 01:54:21,919 But every time we keep adding these level $35,000 now every 2440 01:54:21,919 --> 01:54:24,679 year as a new recurring cost, it makes these events more 2441 01:54:24,679 --> 01:54:27,816 difficult. And frankly, we potentially end up paying for it 2442 01:54:27,816 --> 01:54:29,449 through sponsorship because that's what you know, 2443 01:54:29,449 --> 01:54:30,259 that's where the gap is. 2444 01:54:30,259 --> 01:54:32,989 In other areas, they've made up, you know, 2445 01:54:32,989 --> 01:54:35,989 I think it's important as a city like we have other areas like I 2446 01:54:35,989 --> 01:54:37,756 can think of outside of say, Jim Bar, 2447 01:54:37,756 --> 01:54:38,989 where we were applying to potentially 2448 01:54:38,989 --> 01:54:40,579 get ballots to protect people. 2449 01:54:40,579 --> 01:54:42,799 Like if we're going to require that events protect people, 2450 01:54:42,799 --> 01:54:44,269 we have to do ourselves. 2451 01:54:44,269 --> 01:54:46,629 We have to we know we know where we have weak spots in our city. 2452 01:54:46,629 --> 01:54:48,529 And I think it's just as important that we address those. 2453 01:54:48,529 --> 01:54:50,629 That's sort of a tangent, but I think it's relevant 2454 01:54:50,629 --> 01:54:53,959 if we're making you cover that. 2455 01:54:53,959 --> 01:54:56,569 The the grant thing is definitely new to me. 2456 01:54:56,569 --> 01:54:59,209 And I think that that for me is something that 2457 01:54:59,209 --> 01:55:00,979 makes me open to doing this. 2458 01:55:00,979 --> 01:55:03,799 One other consideration is that going to be will matter? 2459 01:55:03,799 --> 01:55:06,254 Stonewall I mean, I think I love for it 2460 01:55:06,254 --> 01:55:09,969 to be branded will do matters not just stonewall Yes, it would 2461 01:55:09,969 --> 01:55:11,537 it would be just like last year. 2462 01:55:11,537 --> 01:55:13,429 The title is the title of the event. 2463 01:55:13,429 --> 01:55:18,979 So it'll be the Wilton Manors, Stonewall festival and the other 2464 01:55:18,979 --> 01:55:21,409 and and we change the logo, added your name 2465 01:55:21,409 --> 01:55:28,279 across the top and things like that That's good I mean, 2466 01:55:28,279 --> 01:55:28,969 I agree. 2467 01:55:28,969 --> 01:55:30,949 I mean, we have taxpayers that are complaining 2468 01:55:30,949 --> 01:55:35,629 about their taxes you know, giving money to events 2469 01:55:35,629 --> 01:55:38,959 But this is our one of our two signature events a year. 2470 01:55:38,959 --> 01:55:42,259 And every city has certain events 2471 01:55:42,259 --> 01:55:44,633 that they have and they put pride in 2472 01:55:44,633 --> 01:55:47,509 and this is one that we do. 2473 01:55:47,509 --> 01:55:50,839 But just to let everybody know, give me this 2474 01:55:50,839 --> 01:55:55,549 $50,000 is not the only thing we do 2475 01:55:55,549 --> 01:55:58,609 in support for Stonewall pride. 2476 01:55:58,609 --> 01:56:00,838 Do you have any numbers at all for that? 2477 01:56:00,838 --> 01:56:06,469 We're i don't have I didn't have enough time to get the numbers 2478 01:56:06,469 --> 01:56:08,629 together But you're right. 2479 01:56:08,629 --> 01:56:11,348 The city makes a substantial contribution 2480 01:56:11,348 --> 01:56:15,709 and waived permit fees, staff time, both at the event 2481 01:56:15,709 --> 01:56:17,959 and leading up to the event to help plan and make 2482 01:56:17,959 --> 01:56:19,039 sure that it's a success. 2483 01:56:19,039 --> 01:56:22,969 So we've got a lot of department directors 2484 01:56:22,969 --> 01:56:25,429 that will work quite a bit of overtime 2485 01:56:25,429 --> 01:56:26,839 and the day of the event. 2486 01:56:26,839 --> 01:56:31,219 That's a contribution as well Internally we use 30,000. 2487 01:56:31,219 --> 01:56:34,036 That's why I or the other portion of the work, 2488 01:56:34,036 --> 01:56:35,969 I just want people to know that, yeah, 2489 01:56:35,969 --> 01:56:38,269 you know, and I'm not plenty I'm just 2490 01:56:38,269 --> 01:56:40,339 saying it's not just 50,000. 2491 01:56:40,339 --> 01:56:43,099 There's a lot of other things that we do behind the scenes 2492 01:56:43,099 --> 01:56:45,409 like and who do you for 2 or 3 days? 2493 01:56:45,409 --> 01:56:48,020 I don't know if he gets any sleep at all during this event 2494 01:56:48,020 --> 01:56:51,329 because he pretty much helps you run the event 2495 01:56:51,329 --> 01:56:53,861 on the day or day before. 2496 01:56:53,861 --> 01:56:57,769 And he I know he's glad to do it until halfway through 2497 01:56:57,769 --> 01:57:02,419 and he's dead tired of your police department 2498 01:57:02,419 --> 01:57:05,509 also for the interim where the overtime that's 2499 01:57:05,509 --> 01:57:08,869 able to be internalized by using the wrong words here okay 2500 01:57:08,869 --> 01:57:11,509 but that's not that's also covered 2501 01:57:11,509 --> 01:57:15,949 by the budget within the city So there's that number is not 2502 01:57:15,949 --> 01:57:17,809 reflected when I come up with the 30 2503 01:57:17,809 --> 01:57:19,837 because I don't know what it is OK. 2504 01:57:19,837 --> 01:57:20,544 All right. 2505 01:57:20,544 --> 01:57:21,252 Thank you. 2506 01:57:21,252 --> 01:57:21,960 Thank you. 2507 01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:23,099 Yeah, I just. 2508 01:57:23,099 --> 01:57:23,599 I'm sorry. 2509 01:57:23,599 --> 01:57:24,699 I didn't know you had a question. 2510 01:57:24,699 --> 01:57:27,529 I had one other comment last year 2511 01:57:27,529 --> 01:57:30,919 when we did the sponsorship, we paid for, I think it 2512 01:57:30,919 --> 01:57:33,229 was police and fire directly. 2513 01:57:33,229 --> 01:57:34,279 Yeah. 2514 01:57:34,279 --> 01:57:38,059 And i would just recommend we do the same thing. 2515 01:57:38,059 --> 01:57:42,169 This is the sponsorship is a cash $50,000 2516 01:57:42,169 --> 01:57:44,089 contribution and I'm assuming that means 2517 01:57:44,089 --> 01:57:45,619 cash as opposed to in-kind. 2518 01:57:45,619 --> 01:57:48,709 And that's correct because we don't 2519 01:57:48,709 --> 01:57:53,359 allow the top level items to be in-kind at the 25 mark or over. 2520 01:57:53,359 --> 01:57:56,449 So the idea is in theory is cash. 2521 01:57:56,449 --> 01:58:01,429 And we did request the escrow account was by our request 2522 01:58:01,429 --> 01:58:04,369 and the police departments that we continue with the escrow 2523 01:58:04,369 --> 01:58:06,889 concept where you guys would fund the escrow on the monies 2524 01:58:06,889 --> 01:58:09,289 we paid for that we are agreement with that 2525 01:58:09,289 --> 01:58:12,970 because it solves everyone wants their money now what do you say? 2526 01:58:12,970 --> 01:58:14,300 Oh, the city will pay you. 2527 01:58:14,300 --> 01:58:15,630 Then all of a sudden that rush. 2528 01:58:15,630 --> 01:58:16,969 They needed is no longer there. 2529 01:58:16,969 --> 01:58:17,899 I fix it off. 2530 01:58:17,899 --> 01:58:20,284 I just feel a little bit better about it. 2531 01:58:20,284 --> 01:58:23,989 Going for safety, security, and fire than a blanket. 2532 01:58:23,989 --> 01:58:25,459 Chuck for Stonewall. 2533 01:58:25,459 --> 01:58:27,859 And that's pretty much what we did last year. 2534 01:58:27,859 --> 01:58:29,539 So that's what I would recommend. 2535 01:58:29,539 --> 01:58:32,069 Got you Yeah, Yeah, we're good All right. 2536 01:58:32,069 --> 01:58:32,569 Thanks. 2537 01:58:32,569 --> 01:58:33,069 Thank you. 2538 01:58:33,069 --> 01:58:33,979 Thank you. 2539 01:58:33,979 --> 01:58:44,479 Thank you, everyone we need a motion to have to donate $50,000 2540 01:58:44,479 --> 01:58:47,834 in escrow to the Stonewall. 2541 01:58:47,834 --> 01:58:48,801 How do you want to hear that? 2542 01:58:48,801 --> 01:58:52,250 Well, we'd like to work on a sponsorship agreement. 2543 01:58:52,250 --> 01:58:53,099 Okay. 2544 01:58:53,099 --> 01:58:54,499 So you want to bring it back next meeting? 2545 01:58:54,499 --> 01:58:55,129 Yes. 2546 01:58:55,129 --> 01:58:55,339 All right. 2547 01:58:55,339 --> 01:58:56,239 I was like a resolution. 2548 01:58:56,239 --> 01:58:59,779 Yeah, and that'll have the contingency about the grant 2549 01:58:59,779 --> 01:59:01,838 money being reimbursed to us. 2550 01:59:01,838 --> 01:59:03,472 Make sure that's documented. 2551 01:59:03,472 --> 01:59:04,999 OK All right. 2552 01:59:04,999 --> 01:59:07,092 So you have direction, and then you guys will do that. 2553 01:59:07,092 --> 01:59:07,759 Will we're not here. 2554 01:59:07,759 --> 01:59:08,259 Yes. 2555 01:59:08,259 --> 01:59:09,109 And may or I misspoke. 2556 01:59:09,109 --> 01:59:10,549 I do have the calculation. 2557 01:59:10,549 --> 01:59:12,229 Okay The city's contribution. 2558 01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:16,729 So in addition to the $50,000 event sponsorship, 2559 01:59:16,729 --> 01:59:21,349 it's about another $48,000 in staff and budgeted 2560 01:59:21,349 --> 01:59:25,129 cost So over 700 staff hours. 2561 01:59:25,129 --> 01:59:27,079 We also do road closure barricades. 2562 01:59:27,079 --> 01:59:28,609 We rent water trucks. 2563 01:59:28,609 --> 01:59:30,509 It's quite a contribution. 2564 01:59:30,509 --> 01:59:31,375 OK. 2565 01:59:31,375 --> 01:59:35,472 Thank you, Chief can you just come on up for a second? 2566 01:59:35,472 --> 01:59:37,066 So what I ask your question. 2567 01:59:37,066 --> 01:59:39,109 Because we have two main events. 2568 01:59:39,109 --> 01:59:40,669 One is Stonewall and the other one 2569 01:59:40,669 --> 01:59:47,059 is wicked manners What's the difference in or maybe AC 2570 01:59:47,059 --> 01:59:48,529 might be clear. 2571 01:59:48,529 --> 01:59:51,643 What's the difference in staffing for one 2572 01:59:51,643 --> 01:59:57,229 or the other as far as police and safety and is 2573 01:59:57,229 --> 01:59:57,949 is a good evening. 2574 01:59:57,949 --> 02:00:01,609 Darren Brodsky, Assistant chief for your police department 2575 02:00:01,609 --> 02:00:03,379 The difference between the two events, 2576 02:00:03,379 --> 02:00:05,599 right as far as the police department's concerned, 2577 02:00:05,599 --> 02:00:06,799 I mean I know we have X amount. 2578 02:00:06,799 --> 02:00:08,682 I don't want to say how many because that's 2579 02:00:08,682 --> 02:00:11,539 for security reasons, bye. 2580 02:00:11,539 --> 02:00:13,213 Know Stonewall has so many. 2581 02:00:13,213 --> 02:00:15,889 And then and then look at manners 2582 02:00:15,889 --> 02:00:19,399 is another is it substantially different Yeah, I'd 2583 02:00:19,399 --> 02:00:26,869 say Stonewall has a somewhat of a significant larger footprint 2584 02:00:26,869 --> 02:00:29,959 And look at manners because of the parade. 2585 02:00:29,959 --> 02:00:31,573 You know All right. 2586 02:00:31,573 --> 02:00:33,515 I mean, those are our two main events. 2587 02:00:33,515 --> 02:00:36,109 And i was just. 2588 02:00:36,109 --> 02:00:41,869 Any reason why i mean, I understand the parade walk 2589 02:00:41,869 --> 02:00:44,174 in the parade and and that. 2590 02:00:44,174 --> 02:00:46,463 But I mean, we have just as many people, 2591 02:00:46,463 --> 02:00:49,249 if not more at wicked manners and we 2592 02:00:49,249 --> 02:00:55,339 do stuff the logistics of the parade and the set 2593 02:00:55,339 --> 02:00:58,099 up of the safety lane that requires the parade 2594 02:00:58,099 --> 02:01:00,109 to go on the safety lane and then 2595 02:01:00,109 --> 02:01:04,909 managing the crossings during that time frame is what creates 2596 02:01:04,909 --> 02:01:08,299 a lot of the extraneous different sizes 2597 02:01:08,299 --> 02:01:11,539 and probably cost and personnel. 2598 02:01:11,539 --> 02:01:16,789 But for the most part, the footprint of the actual event 2599 02:01:16,789 --> 02:01:22,879 other than this year, last year, it was from 21st court to buy 2600 02:01:22,879 --> 02:01:26,944 points this year it has expanded to 20 Street, 2601 02:01:26,944 --> 02:01:30,109 where it was two years ago. 2602 02:01:30,109 --> 02:01:32,099 So that does that does add to it as well. 2603 02:01:32,099 --> 02:01:32,599 True. 2604 02:01:32,599 --> 02:01:32,929 True. 2605 02:01:32,929 --> 02:01:33,619 I like that, though. 2606 02:01:33,619 --> 02:01:36,319 I mean, I felt bad about some of the business I won't drive that. 2607 02:01:36,319 --> 02:01:38,299 We're not always excluded. 2608 02:01:38,299 --> 02:01:41,456 And I thought it was wrong that you know, 2609 02:01:41,456 --> 02:01:43,199 they're kind of pushed out with the big event. 2610 02:01:43,199 --> 02:01:43,896 So what matters. 2611 02:01:43,896 --> 02:01:47,839 Everybody is walks right by all those places from the bridge, 2612 02:01:47,839 --> 02:01:49,789 you know towards city Hall. 2613 02:01:49,789 --> 02:01:52,309 So I'm glad they are doing that this year 2614 02:01:52,309 --> 02:01:53,909 So it's a plus for everybody. 2615 02:01:53,909 --> 02:01:54,409 All right. 2616 02:01:54,409 --> 02:01:54,909 Thank you. 2617 02:01:54,909 --> 02:01:55,549 I just wanted to. 2618 02:01:55,549 --> 02:01:56,239 Yes, sir. 2619 02:01:56,239 --> 02:01:57,684 Thank you All right. 2620 02:01:57,684 --> 02:02:00,678 Request for replacement of items for next meeting. 2621 02:02:00,678 --> 02:02:04,699 I'd like to. doesn't need to be next meeting, but a few to say. 2622 02:02:04,699 --> 02:02:07,909 I'm going to say no to now for a future meeting. 2623 02:02:07,909 --> 02:02:09,949 I won't be the next. 2624 02:02:09,949 --> 02:02:17,299 Yeah go ahead I'd like to have a discussion about the direction 2625 02:02:17,299 --> 02:02:18,559 we're going on. 2626 02:02:18,559 --> 02:02:21,399 We're going in with regard to economic development 2627 02:02:21,399 --> 02:02:22,999 We talk about economic development all the time. 2628 02:02:22,999 --> 02:02:25,547 But we don't really have a plan of what we're going to do. 2629 02:02:25,547 --> 02:02:28,152 So I'd just like to have an a discussion about that. 2630 02:02:28,152 --> 02:02:32,029 OK For a future meeting, I want to bring back the issue of where 2631 02:02:32,029 --> 02:02:33,889 the money from the E go, whether that's 2632 02:02:33,889 --> 02:02:35,179 with that when that comes back. 2633 02:02:35,179 --> 02:02:37,396 But I definitely to finish that discussion. 2634 02:02:37,396 --> 02:02:38,738 Oh, yeah. 2635 02:02:38,738 --> 02:02:42,696 Good good Thank you all for coming out tonight. 2636 02:02:42,696 --> 02:02:45,681 This meeting is adjourned. 2637 02:02:45,681 --> 02:02:49,219 OK well, we go 20. 2638 02:02:49,219 --> 02:02:54,679 Your parking is going to start a half hour afterwards. 2639 02:02:54,679 --> 02:03:02,839 You're in trouble just because good is going to be here. 2640 02:03:02,839 --> 02:03:10,300 Feet next door to the footprint of the meeting. 2641 02:03:10,300 --> 02:03:10,800 I have. 2642 02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:12,709 I think I really do like you. 2643 02:03:12,709 --> 02:03:15,019 Tomorrow I'll come down and try to do 2644 02:03:15,019 --> 02:03:18,536 the day after i leave at 26. 2645 02:03:18,536 --> 02:03:21,469 Actually, you guys don't just have great. 2646 02:03:21,469 --> 02:03:25,979 You can have donuts Oh, you're calling You're quite all right. 2647 02:03:25,979 --> 02:03:26,479 I'm. 2648 02:03:26,479 --> 02:03:27,169 I am not. 2649 02:03:27,169 --> 02:03:28,369 I can tell you that. 2650 02:03:28,369 --> 02:03:28,969 Oh, no, you don't. 2651 02:03:28,969 --> 02:03:30,499 I saw that Q Krispy kreme. 2652 02:03:30,499 --> 02:03:32,887 How I was going to say last time when I missed, 2653 02:03:32,887 --> 02:03:35,329 I was like, oh, you're going to call. 2654 02:03:35,329 --> 02:03:36,661 I was on a cruise. 2655 02:03:36,661 --> 02:03:39,799 I am not going to forget. 2656 02:03:39,799 --> 02:03:42,358 We give them to you here, right? 2657 02:03:42,358 --> 02:03:43,429 Yeah. 2658 02:03:43,429 --> 02:03:52,672 So all right. 2659 02:03:52,672 --> 02:03:54,206 You have a great trip Didn't do too. 2660 02:03:54,206 --> 02:03:55,672 One for.