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Please Good evening, everyone
Please take your seats.

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Not on.

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Hello Don't.

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Don't put on the model OK.

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Sit down.

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Usually my voice is loud enough
to get everybody to settle

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down Please take your seats.

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Please turn your phones off or
put them on vibrate, please.

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And after we start the
meeting, we have a proclamation

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before a public comment.

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And for the proclamation, we
have a few people outside that

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would like to come in for that.

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So if anybody, when
the proclamation

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starts, if you would, please
volunteer to go outside.

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We need about five of
you but you'll be put

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right Don't do it right now.

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You don't really
right now I'll let you

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know when you have to leave.

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But you're going to be put
right by the front door.

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So as soon as the
recreation is done they'll.

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They'll let you right
back in Because, Dana,

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if right now you're okay
everybody understand?

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Everybody ready ?

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Yeah.

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Senior manager.

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You ready ?

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City Clerk.

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Are you ready?

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Yes Oh.

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City.

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City Commission Everybody good?

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Yeah.

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OK.

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All right I'm.

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I call a city commission
meeting on Tuesday, August 25th.

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That 705 to order.

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Please stand For the pledge.

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I guess a lot of you
are aware that Dolly

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Parton died today And I'm.

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That's all right.

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Let's go out She was really
big on a couple of things.

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She was very big advocate
for the LGBTQ community

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and she was really big on kids
reading She had a big fund

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foundation that a lot of her
money went to buying books

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for underprivileged kids.

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And so we are going to have the
commission will allow me to put

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the colors of pink and
purple for Dolly for the week

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and lower the American
flag and the LGBTQ flag.

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So it's been a moment of silence
for sweet woman Dolly Parton

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Thank you Roll call, please.

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Commissioner Rocky Brockie,
you're commissioner Armenia.

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You're Commissioner rowley here.

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Vice Mayor Caputo here.

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Mayor Newton here
Changes and additions.

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I like to move the Community
Affairs Board to right

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after the consent agenda, if
everybody doesn't mind Sure.

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Sure.

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And then since we have
a lot of people here,

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I think are not for some of
the other things on here.

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I think they're here for the
alibi property has a lot of us

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call it How about can we
move Article 30 and table

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it to a meeting down the road?

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If everybody's okay with it?

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I support that But you want
to table it for a meeting?

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Yeah at the next
meeting or second?

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Can we.

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Can we do it at
the next meeting?

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Yeah.

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Oh, I would agree to a table.

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Right.

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OK Anybody else?

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I have two items, please.

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Sure.

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The First presentation was
a presentation for a grant.

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The board member that
was going to present it

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is an able to be
here this evening.

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So we will move that to the
next city commission meeting

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We'd also like to table item 13
a related to parking, parking,

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RFP that will come back
at the next meeting

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as well I would like to
add a topic at the end.

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New Business Rules
about agenda packets,

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rules and about agenda packets.

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Sure Anybody else ?

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No.

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No OK, we'll move on All right.

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Now, is there anybody that
would please go outside?

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We need Five people.

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And then we'll bring you right
back in, I promise right after i

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Where's her own?

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By where He's got other areas.

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Come on up Come
on up Don't be shy

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Yeah Which way for your people
to get in here for a second?

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Yeah If you can come in.

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Yeah, I know.

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I mean everyone, come on
in Money and come on in.

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Go on in.

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You come up and take pictures.

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If you.

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Come on this, okay?

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Yes, please.

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You come over here if you want.

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Probably another appropriate
It's hot anywhere

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And that's good.

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It's warm in here.

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Appreciate it.

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Is Hey, I got everybody here
that was going to come in You

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know, they're all in there.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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OK All right.

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We're HIV prevention remains a
vital public health priority.

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And advances in prep have
transformed from HIV prevention

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and helping reduce
new HIV infections.

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Whereas heroin by haroon
Sarah has dedicated years

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to advanced HIV prevention
in the city of Wilton Manors

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and South Florida through
education advocacy, community

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outreach and connecting
hundreds of individuals

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to HIV prevention services
and care And his leadership

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and commitment have
helped reduce stigma

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and expanded awareness of
Prep encourages HIV testing

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and improve access
to improves access

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to life saving
prevention resources

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The city will manage recognized
the importance of honoring

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individuals who serve
strengthens the health

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and well-being of the community,
will continue to promote HIV

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prevention and health equity.

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therefore, the mayor of the
city will Mainers and the city

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manager do hereby proclaim
that August August 27th,

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2002 weeks as HIV five
Prevention and prep awareness

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day and in recognition of
the outstanding contributions

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descriptions of heroin by
prevention I say, running

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the route out of what I say.

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Oh, I say oh, sorry
that's what I do I see.

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If I remember now, I will
prevention and public health

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and encourage all residents
to learn about HIV prevention,

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get tested and know their
status and consider prep as part

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of ending the hIV epidemic
And we thank you for what

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you've done for
our community Would

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you like to say a few words ?

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If you.

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I mean, I can talk
forever, trust.

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I'll give you three minutes.

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Know One minute.

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That's enough.

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Actually.

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Thank you very much, Mayor.

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Commissioners vice
mayor, everyone actually

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thought I is the same story.

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Probably.

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I tell myself that all the time.

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But i'll say it again.

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Um, so I move there.

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Five years ago from
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not knowing what HIV, HIV
means actually, or prep means.

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And, um, I came to Alton
Manors and they didn't even

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know that something
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know when, when you're a gay man
living in, in in the Arab world

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your dream is to have like,
to build something like this,

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you know, like, oh, my God,
a city where everyone is.

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Well, mostly sorry.

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You know, most of people
like, oh, yeah, absolutely.

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That's a dream.

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But then it actually
it's the truth.

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So i came here, and I
started meeting people.

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I remember i mean, I met.

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I met a lot of
people in this room,

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like I hopefully
you guys remember.

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Oh, yeah.

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But um One of the
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the vice mayor, Chris Caputo.

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Actually, that I met here.

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And I met I know.

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And then I met commissioner
Don Commissioner Mike.

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I didn't get to meet you.

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Paul.

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Sorry, but.

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Or the mayor here.

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But yeah and I got the support
of the community and I worked.

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I've been working for H.f.
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and we have been helping a
lot of people and prevention

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and treatment of HIV I
am really honored today

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and blessed that I am part
of this beautiful city.

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So hopefully we can
do better There's

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a lot Thank you for all You do.

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You Congrats You know you
can Thank you this way I get

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in trouble for that rule
I come in the synagogues,

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take pictures Very nice And
i'll hear oh congratulations.

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Thank you.

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All right Thank
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That's good I'm glad we
could do stuff like this Them

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to come back and Yeah.

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And everybody come back
in that they went out

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thank you very much for doing
that for us so any empty seats

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that people can show
other people standing

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up in the back now no open seats
anywhere You got one over here.

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So may want to sit down
Nobody wants to sit down

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and got open seat over
here So All right.

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I'm going over there
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There's one more.

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There, too, in the front.

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And you guys left here now.

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OK All right.

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Presentations Chief Thank you.

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You, Mr. Mayor.

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Our city commission.

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I want to thank you all
in our community tonight

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for allowing our
police department

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to take up a few extra seats
to allow our team members to be

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here tonight to support
their award recipients

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but also their family members
and their children that

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are here tonight.

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I see is with us.

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Gary Block, your
chief of police.

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And I would like to ask Officer
Steven Tapia to join me up here

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Officer Poirier,
Officer man Fergus

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So we're going to start with
Officer Officer Steven Tapia

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right here.

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He's going to be recognized
and those are for the court

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for the second quarter of 2026.

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And he began he began road
patrol here on January 16, 2026,

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after successfully
completing field training

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in just a few short months.

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You quickly
distinguished yourself

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through your initiative, strong
work ethic and commitment

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to serving the community
during the second quarter,

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you accounted for 20% of the
agency's traffic citations

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and warnings, issuing Eight 147
as part of our traffic education

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and enforcement efforts That
looks to reduce traffic crashes.

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You also handle 9%
of the agency's calls

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for service authored.

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9% of all reports are
responsible for 8% of arrests.

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An impressive level of
activity for an officer.

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So early in your career,
but your performance

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is more than just statistics.

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At 1249 on June 29th,
you responded with

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fellow officers to a
burglary in progress

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at an occupied residence.

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After a neighbor reported
someone attempting

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to break into the apartment
of an elderly woman

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who was home at the time.

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You and your fellow officers
quickly located the arrested

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and arrested the offender.

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But your work did
not stop there.

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Through a thorough follow
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you obtain an admission
from the offender

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and uncovered
additional evidence,

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including stolen property
and burglary tools.

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Your work that morning
demonstrated initiative,

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sound judgment and a commitment
to seeing the investigation

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through There's also
another incident here that's

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going to be mentioned
here momentarily

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but all sorts happy
in a short time.

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You have proven to be a
proactive and dependable member

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of the department, whether
enforcing traffic laws,

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investigating criminal activity
responding to calls for service

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or helping someone during a life
threatening emergency you have

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shown what it means
to be committed

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to your profession, your
fellow officers and most

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importantly, the community.

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We serve.

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I'm going to segway
right into a life saving

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and commendation
award, and we're going

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to invite Officer man Fergus.

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Officer Boyer, Tap here in this
conversation along with Officer

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Steven Tapia on May
26th, 2026 Officers,

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these Three officers responded
to an urgent call involving

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a two year old child who was
unconscious and not breathing

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Upon their arrival, they were
met by the child's mother who

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was holding her unresponsive son
and urgently needed their help

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Officer Man Fergus tapia, you
immediately assess the child

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and determine that his airway
was obstructed by fluid

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and mucus while he was
experience seeing a seizure

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and an extremely high fever.

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Knowing every second mattered.

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You acted without hesitation.

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Officer Tapia positioned
the child while also

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remained food was administered.

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Black back blows
clearing the obstruction

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and restoring his breathing.

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I'll tell you what, if you watch
that body worn camera, man,

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it was some great,
great police work

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And for that child to be
here today it is awesome.

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Not in this room, but
today it is awesome.

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Recognizing the need for
advanced medical care.

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Officer Tapia, you then carried
the child more than 500ft

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to the awaiting paramedics while
lifesaving efforts continued

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For your swift response,
sound judgment and commitment

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to preserving life
officers angelo,

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Man, Fergus and Stephen tapia.

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Tonight you're being presented
with our agency's life saving

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award.

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Officer Poirier, for
your professionalism,

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teamwork, because it took
all three of these gentlemen

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to make sure that child survived
and portant contribution

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to the successful response
You are being presented

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with a commendation, an award.

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Please join me.

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Why?

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We congratulate these three
officers for their life.

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And for Mr. Mayor Merriman.

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I'm told little youngsters
in the audience here.

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Oh, really?

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Mom, Dad Hey Jack.

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Behind you.

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Zero.

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Watch out.

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Behind you.

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They're coming on Yeah yeah.

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I'm going to try a little
some here I know Dad's here,

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but I heard I heard only
Mom was here, but glass.

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Yes.

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Four for Toyota.

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Two of Atlantia e to a more poor
to evil Nuestro Departamento de

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policia de Felice Stop or say
when a gun madre that means

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thank you for your help.

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Your courage and your
love for your child.

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Our police department
commends you for being

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a great mother and father.

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Well done sweet They want our
guys stay up here together

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and stay down here
You guys, thank

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you so much for all you do.

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Much appreciate it.

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So let me ask you this.

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Secret Service somebody
on the other side kind

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of even it out right?

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Get closer.

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Don't be afraid.

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Make sure to hold your Yeah,
be good You can come up.

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You can take them.

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Come up and take the
picture if you want.

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Don't be shy.

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Just afraid It's
Tuesday Thank you.

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Congratulations.

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On this gentleman.

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Thank you Congratulations.

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Good, great work.

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Really amazing Thank you.

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Just One Thank you so much.

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Thank you Thanks,
Chief Thank you.

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All right Now we have
the Broward County chief

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resilient officer, Dr. Herr.

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I know you here.

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There you go.

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You are.

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How are you I don't
know who is at first

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was coming in for this, so I
just like, let them go first.

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I wasn't skipping
you on purpose.

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How are you doing tonight?

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Doing very well thank you.

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Mayor, Vice, Mayor,
Commissioners Appreciate

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the opportunity Yes, please
to have a few minutes

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on your agenda today.

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I am the chief resilience
officer for Broward County

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and I'm here on behalf of
the Broward County Commission

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to share a new grant
program that the county

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commission is rolling
out just just about now.

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And that is grant funding
in support of infrastructure

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for improvements to aid
flood risk reduction

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and earlier this year
there was an announcement.

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And decision to move
forward with a $20 million

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round location to
support these investments

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through a grant program that
will open on September 2.

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The focus is flood
risk reduction

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And given the implication
of rising seas and rainfall

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intensification and what we
know that means to flood risk

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and damage losses and economic
disruptions in our community,

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We spent several years working
on the development of a county

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wide resilience plan focused on
dozens and dozens of scenarios

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of flood risk Ultimately,

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there were a suite of
adaptation projects

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that were recommended there
captured in the banner there

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on the right The point being
that these investments are

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indeed county wide but
the county commissions

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and they and they fall into
a variety of categories

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and these will
occur over decades

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But there are
projects that we know

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we can advance much
more quickly, delivering

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flood risk reduction.

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With those benefits that
will accrue each year.

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And those are investments
that support in some of this

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won't be necessarily relevant
to every type of infrastructure

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you have in the city.

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But control structures
on canal floors,

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pumps, inland and coastal
oil and culvert improvements.

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The risk reduction that we
modeled for Wilton Manors

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is revealed here.

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The image captures anticipate
and flood elevations

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with Two full feet
of sea level rise,

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which is our 2050 condition.

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A 100 year rainfall event and
20 year storm surge scenario

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So the red areas show where
we would expect to see

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more than two feet of water.

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The yellow areas, you
know, six inches to a foot.

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And then the light green,
less than Six inches.

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And the image on the
left shows no adaptation.

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And the image on the
right shows the adaptation

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projects that we modeled.

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And you can see the
relative improvement

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The modeling incorporates
the types of projects that

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enhanced orange water
conveyance, green infrastructure

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improvements.

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You know, there images
on the right kind

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of reveal what it
looks like, but then

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you take it into model land.

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And that's how we're
trying to trans slate

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the performance of projects to
the risk reduction And in total,

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we also wanted to look at
not only the risk reduction,

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but what it means
for economic cost.

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And we know with rising
flood insurance costs

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potential threats to property
value use, when you have

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repetitive losses those
implications for tax revenues

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when values drop, revenues do.

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And it makes it
harder and harder

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to keep up with the
infrastructure investment

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that we need, which is the point
of invest now rather than defer

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on improvements that we
know will need to be made

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in any eventuality But the plan
comes with a very significant

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cost We were looking at
about 28 billion in total

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through public and private
investment over the next Four

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decades or so So we really
worked over this last year

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to break it down into
something more manageable

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And the commission started
with the first billion

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and anticipated capital costs
being those pumps culverts

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and control structures, things
that can go in the ground.

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we also know that there's
about another 2 billion

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anticipated in additional
infrastructure in the way

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of pumps and seawalls are
going to be an important area

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of investment for community such
as yours and our coastal areas

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But to get started we had an
initial grant program last year,

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started with culverts
demonstrated a really strong

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leveraging of funds,
and the Commission

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is seeking to achieve that same
formula with the allocation now.

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So we're prepared
through the program

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to provide a 25% cost
share on the projects

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overall are obligated
to staff is to leverage

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those dollars 5 to 1.

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Some projects will have a
higher and lesser return,

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but the goal is year
after year for 15 years.

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If we can leverage the dollars,
well, we can put $1.5 billion

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of infrastructure in
the ground while we're

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working on the larger solutions
that help with the more

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complete plan, I will
share the county's

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capital budget workshop today.

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That funding was represented in
the five year capital program

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So it is the direction
that the Commission

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is interested in taking the
grant criteria detailed here.

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I won't need to go over that.

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They are posted on the website
at Resilient Brower We're here

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to encourage you the city's
application to ensure that you

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all know about the grant
funding opportunity

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We realize this is year one
next year may be a little bit

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more planning in advance
because we can anticipate

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that potentially
the partnerships

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and the funding resilient
Florida grant funding

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can also be leveraged.

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But our goal is, is
bringing as much dollars

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back to Broward County
and our communities

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for the flood
protections we know

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we need The grants will
allow for a project

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over a period of three years.

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What's shown here in this image
is the areas where we anticipate

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the city of Wilton
manors would ultimately

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need additional
pumping and drainage

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on the back side of sea walls
that would be constructed.

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So we didn't predetermine where
those project locations might

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be, but recognize that we
expect in your community,

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you'll be looking at that
whether it's this year or later

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years So i'm acknowledging
that's an area

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like active opportunity
for the city

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and the dollars can be
used to support design,

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construct design,
and permitting.

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But the deliver proposal
must be construction

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The details on the timeline
for the grant program

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are shown here.

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Again, we'll formally open the
portal on September Second,

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will receive applications
through the end of October.

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Look to rank and
evaluate for our board

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by the end of December.

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And then hopefully have those
grants issued in in the spring.

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So thank you for your
time and attention

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and look forward to receiving.

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Applications are working
together through you.

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Any questions you, your team
might have any questions.

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So thank you for.

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Thank you very much appreciate
it There's a huge problem for us

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down here, I promise
you Thank you All right

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We're going to start comments
from the public You're going

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to get three minutes,
please state your name

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and address for us, please.

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And when the buzzer goes off,
we have plenty of people here

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tonight, if you'd please
stop your comments

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when you hear the buzzer
I really appreciate it.

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Anyone here would
like to come up

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and speak you can be second I'll
be very, very quick I promise.

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Hi.

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Melody Manning to 428
northeast Sixth Avenue.

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I'm actually not here to talk
about any of the big projects

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and I did want to acknowledge
the fact that we all

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know Dolly Parton died today.

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And she was my idol.

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So I came up here just to read a
quote from Dolly because I think

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it pertains to all of us in
this room that are working

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towards a better community.

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And I promise i
won't be the quote.

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My favorite Dolly Parton
quote, which is that

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takes a lot of money to look
this cheap and I quote this.

508
00:29:23,503 --> 00:29:26,271
And she said, and I
quote, If you can't change

509
00:29:26,271 --> 00:29:29,271
the whole wide world, change
your own little world,

510
00:29:29,271 --> 00:29:30,591
we can look around us.

511
00:29:30,591 --> 00:29:33,261
So what for our
community, help the people

512
00:29:33,261 --> 00:29:36,171
and make the world a little
bit better That kind of change

513
00:29:36,171 --> 00:29:39,231
doesn't make headlines
but it matters.

514
00:29:39,231 --> 00:29:41,301
And i wanted to come up here
and say that everybody that

515
00:29:41,301 --> 00:29:43,911
is in this room right now is
trying to help their community,

516
00:29:43,911 --> 00:29:45,998
even though we don't
agree on a lot.

517
00:29:45,998 --> 00:29:48,921
And we fight quite a bit.

518
00:29:48,921 --> 00:29:53,511
We fight because we believe what
we are doing for our community

519
00:29:53,511 --> 00:30:02,991
matters That's all Thank you
And we still respect each other

520
00:30:02,991 --> 00:30:05,271
after our comments
because we all try

521
00:30:05,271 --> 00:30:08,721
to live here together Go ahead.

522
00:30:08,721 --> 00:30:12,059
Hi my name is Gary
Defi reside at 2015

523
00:30:12,059 --> 00:30:14,236
Northeast Seventh Avenue.

524
00:30:14,236 --> 00:30:18,111
I am here to voice my
thoughts regarding the shops

525
00:30:18,111 --> 00:30:19,743
of Wilton manors development.

526
00:30:19,743 --> 00:30:21,486
And it's impact on.

527
00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:23,541
Cut through traffic
and Northeast

528
00:30:23,541 --> 00:30:29,091
Seventh Avenue 20th Street
21st Street and 22nd drive.

529
00:30:29,091 --> 00:30:32,601
I appreciate the measures
already implemented

530
00:30:32,601 --> 00:30:36,861
by the city and the
developer for traffic egress

531
00:30:36,861 --> 00:30:39,711
and to seven three
avenue include left

532
00:30:39,711 --> 00:30:45,231
turn only a no turn right
lighted signs directing traffic

533
00:30:45,231 --> 00:30:50,901
towards Wilton Drive the raised
diverter curb pavement signage

534
00:30:50,901 --> 00:30:55,371
and the traffic calming
table we currently experience

535
00:30:55,371 --> 00:30:59,241
an excessive amount of
cut through traffic even

536
00:30:59,241 --> 00:31:03,261
with the existing
building at zero capacity.

537
00:31:03,261 --> 00:31:05,601
As stated in the city
of Wilton Manors,

538
00:31:05,601 --> 00:31:08,751
traffic calming
manual drivers cutting

539
00:31:08,751 --> 00:31:13,311
through residential neighborhood
create a significant danger

540
00:31:13,311 --> 00:31:19,461
to children Walkers, joggers,
bicyclists, pets and wildlife.

541
00:31:19,461 --> 00:31:23,721
This situation atIon
encourages motorists motorists

542
00:31:23,721 --> 00:31:26,541
to use shortcuts
through our neighborhood

543
00:31:26,541 --> 00:31:29,511
even during non-peak
hours causing

544
00:31:29,511 --> 00:31:33,561
justify both concern
among residents regarding

545
00:31:33,561 --> 00:31:35,841
safety and livability.

546
00:31:35,841 --> 00:31:40,011
For a context, I have a newborn
baby living across the street

547
00:31:40,011 --> 00:31:41,271
from my house.

548
00:31:41,271 --> 00:31:43,371
I have a neighbor
next door that's

549
00:31:43,371 --> 00:31:50,841
blind The city of Wilton
Manors traffic calming manual

550
00:31:50,841 --> 00:31:55,761
indicates that Wilton Drive is
the intended route for traffic

551
00:31:55,761 --> 00:31:59,001
from this development rather
than Northeast Seventh Avenue,

552
00:31:59,001 --> 00:32:02,091
which is a residential street.

553
00:32:02,091 --> 00:32:07,281
Again, I appreciate the measures
already taken from the city

554
00:32:07,281 --> 00:32:11,181
and the developers and the
additional traffic calming

555
00:32:11,181 --> 00:32:17,301
measures that can be improved to
protect our residential streets

556
00:32:17,301 --> 00:32:21,501
would be greatly appreciated
by our residents.

557
00:32:21,501 --> 00:32:23,991
Thank you for your
time and attention

558
00:32:23,991 --> 00:32:29,631
Thank you Anyone
else like to come up

559
00:32:29,631 --> 00:32:37,081
and speak Come on
up on one second.

560
00:32:37,081 --> 00:32:37,581
No.

561
00:32:37,581 --> 00:32:38,211
Come on.

562
00:32:38,211 --> 00:32:41,148
No yield bear.

563
00:32:41,148 --> 00:32:43,142
No, you guys see how polite.

564
00:32:43,142 --> 00:32:47,547
We are Cause Sure.

565
00:32:47,547 --> 00:32:48,471
325.

566
00:32:48,471 --> 00:32:50,541
Northeast 25th Street.

567
00:32:50,541 --> 00:32:51,381
Good evening Mayor.

568
00:32:51,381 --> 00:32:54,951
Commissioners, city staff and
residents and guest myself.

569
00:32:54,951 --> 00:32:57,231
Objective tonight and over
the next several commissioner

570
00:32:57,231 --> 00:33:00,771
meetings is to provide document
details Why commissioner are

571
00:33:00,771 --> 00:33:04,731
we should not be elected
mayor what manners

572
00:33:04,731 --> 00:33:08,871
And that's why I'm here as you
do not deserve to be mayor, more

573
00:33:08,871 --> 00:33:11,316
or less a commissioner
the last four years,

574
00:33:11,316 --> 00:33:14,271
as you should have been
reprimanded and/or removed

575
00:33:14,271 --> 00:33:18,321
as you knowingly violate the
city charter to falsely pursue

576
00:33:18,321 --> 00:33:21,801
me truly my civil
rights were violated

577
00:33:21,801 --> 00:33:25,941
and I remain civil until now
I regret having to relive

578
00:33:25,941 --> 00:33:28,941
the hell you put us through,
but I'm driven to expose

579
00:33:28,941 --> 00:33:31,641
your abuse of power
and vindictiveness

580
00:33:31,641 --> 00:33:34,821
that we were subjected
to by you Parolee.

581
00:33:34,821 --> 00:33:36,711
You are not worthy to be mayor.

582
00:33:36,711 --> 00:33:41,301
A will manners I hope a lot of
you here are dolphin Democrats.

583
00:33:41,301 --> 00:33:42,591
And so you're here tonight.

584
00:33:42,591 --> 00:33:44,861
You'll be here on September
the eighth in that.

585
00:33:44,861 --> 00:33:46,551
And also on September the 22nd.

586
00:33:46,551 --> 00:33:51,531
I'll be here again So
on August 23, 2022,

587
00:33:51,531 --> 00:33:56,841
for four years ago on a
Sunday night at 8:17 p.m.,

588
00:33:56,841 --> 00:34:00,921
I was served a false restraining
order for stalking And upon

589
00:34:00,921 --> 00:34:05,301
review of the restraining order,
I easily identified as actions

590
00:34:05,301 --> 00:34:09,299
tied directly to the efforts
of Vice mayor Rowley,

591
00:34:09,299 --> 00:34:11,259
where Where is you?

592
00:34:11,259 --> 00:34:11,759
Yes Yeah.

593
00:34:11,759 --> 00:34:13,341
As an emergency.

594
00:34:13,341 --> 00:34:19,041
This is not an accusation but
an admitted fact, by Vice mayor.

595
00:34:19,041 --> 00:34:20,181
Really himself.

596
00:34:20,181 --> 00:34:24,951
At a meeting he requested in
writing on November 17 2022,

597
00:34:24,951 --> 00:34:27,951
at City Hall So who
in the heck is Carl?

598
00:34:27,951 --> 00:34:28,461
Sure.

599
00:34:28,461 --> 00:34:33,531
Why would he do this My
background My partner

600
00:34:33,531 --> 00:34:36,141
and I came here on
vacation in 2015.

601
00:34:36,141 --> 00:34:37,731
We fell in love with
William Manners.

602
00:34:37,731 --> 00:34:39,591
Purchased a home,
and we relocated

603
00:34:39,591 --> 00:34:41,841
from Houston May of 2016.

604
00:34:41,841 --> 00:34:44,028
We are both 2018 ICU graduates.

605
00:34:44,028 --> 00:34:47,511
And I successfully pursued a
board position on the Berkeley

606
00:34:47,511 --> 00:34:50,901
Recreation Advisory
board July of 2018

607
00:34:50,901 --> 00:34:54,741
as an active park and Recreation
Advisory Board member mayor Flip

608
00:34:54,741 --> 00:34:57,231
and reached out and asked
if I could cobble together

609
00:34:57,231 --> 00:34:59,511
city naming procedures
and that was

610
00:34:59,511 --> 00:35:01,611
successfully
accomplished Adopted

611
00:35:01,611 --> 00:35:04,041
by the city prior to his death.

612
00:35:04,041 --> 00:35:07,611
Our naming procedure was
signed by Mayor Flippen.

613
00:35:07,611 --> 00:35:11,991
We're used for the first
time for Mayor Flippen

614
00:35:11,991 --> 00:35:14,511
I served two terms on the
Parks and Recreation Board

615
00:35:14,511 --> 00:35:15,501
in my last years.

616
00:35:15,501 --> 00:35:19,710
Chair until My term
expiring June 30th, 2022.

617
00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:22,911
For the last Seven
years, I have been

618
00:35:22,911 --> 00:35:27,771
the sole volunteer recruiter
for a taste of the Alan.

619
00:35:27,771 --> 00:35:29,961
The last you're Being
our 20th anniversary.

620
00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:35,241
I recruited a record 55
participants for me each year.

621
00:35:35,241 --> 00:35:38,691
It represents hundreds of
dedicated hours and dollars out

622
00:35:38,691 --> 00:35:42,681
of my pocket to ensure
success As currently I'm

623
00:35:42,681 --> 00:35:45,051
vice chair of the Sunshine
Cathedral foundation

624
00:35:45,051 --> 00:35:48,201
and Facilities chair for the
Sunshine Cathedral Campus

625
00:35:48,201 --> 00:35:53,391
and our Sunshine Pride House
So this is me giving back

626
00:35:53,391 --> 00:35:56,751
at the next commission meeting
Copies of my restraining order

627
00:35:56,751 --> 00:35:58,031
will be made
available this summer,

628
00:35:58,031 --> 00:36:00,168
we need about
Hundreds or so copies.

629
00:36:00,168 --> 00:36:01,756
See you in September.

630
00:36:01,756 --> 00:36:18,471
Thank you Please come
Surprise my people about I

631
00:36:18,471 --> 00:36:19,851
had something all
written out, but I'm

632
00:36:19,851 --> 00:36:24,993
just going to skip it What
happened to Carl was a travesty.

633
00:36:24,993 --> 00:36:27,951
I've looked into it because
I can't keep my nose out

634
00:36:27,951 --> 00:36:33,051
of certain things
and I can tell you

635
00:36:33,051 --> 00:36:34,251
there are people
who deserve to be

636
00:36:34,251 --> 00:36:37,131
on that dais There
are people who don't

637
00:36:37,131 --> 00:36:38,871
deserve to be on the dais.

638
00:36:38,871 --> 00:36:40,101
And there are
people who should be

639
00:36:40,101 --> 00:36:46,821
on the dais I am not
one of them My mouth is

640
00:36:46,821 --> 00:36:48,966
too big for the dais.

641
00:36:48,966 --> 00:36:50,602
I will say this.

642
00:36:50,602 --> 00:36:52,401
Everyone up there does
the best that they

643
00:36:52,401 --> 00:36:56,031
can do I don't believe that
anyone has a secret agenda.

644
00:36:56,031 --> 00:36:58,971
I don't believe that
anyone stealing money

645
00:36:58,971 --> 00:37:01,941
I know this community
like my heart

646
00:37:01,941 --> 00:37:04,791
because when you look around and
you see the things that we see

647
00:37:04,791 --> 00:37:08,361
today, a meeting that
began with a thank

648
00:37:08,361 --> 00:37:10,731
you to Dolly Parton, how
many cities do you think

649
00:37:10,731 --> 00:37:12,321
are doing that tonight?

650
00:37:12,321 --> 00:37:15,291
A meeting where we congratulate
our police department

651
00:37:15,291 --> 00:37:21,291
because they do such a fine
job A meeting where we thank

652
00:37:21,291 --> 00:37:23,861
them for saving a child's life.

653
00:37:23,861 --> 00:37:25,161
And the probably took
a little bit more

654
00:37:25,161 --> 00:37:30,021
time than what your study said
it should have in the police

655
00:37:30,021 --> 00:37:32,781
department that supports us.

656
00:37:32,781 --> 00:37:36,171
We are a small hometown
but I can tell you

657
00:37:36,171 --> 00:37:38,481
in a small hometown, when
you have somebody who's

658
00:37:38,481 --> 00:37:46,927
a bully like Paul Raleigh there
are problems there are people

659
00:37:46,927 --> 00:37:50,901
like Carl, who volunteered
their time did the best that he

660
00:37:50,901 --> 00:37:55,011
could and was a good person.

661
00:37:55,011 --> 00:37:58,611
And he almost moved
from the city.

662
00:37:58,611 --> 00:38:05,211
When you have people in power
almost like Washington when you

663
00:38:05,211 --> 00:38:08,421
have people in power who
retaliate against you

664
00:38:08,421 --> 00:38:12,861
because they don't like what
they say or what you say

665
00:38:12,861 --> 00:38:21,621
and that's happened to me a few
times probably for good reason

666
00:38:21,621 --> 00:38:24,651
I have to say that I
don't believe that.

667
00:38:24,651 --> 00:38:27,291
Paul really deserves
to be our next mayor,

668
00:38:27,291 --> 00:38:30,891
nor do I believe that
he belongs on the dais.

669
00:38:30,891 --> 00:38:34,281
But what I will say there
are plenty of people who

670
00:38:34,281 --> 00:38:38,481
are willing to take that
position I normally say,

671
00:38:38,481 --> 00:38:42,561
oh, welcome to the new people
who want to get up there

672
00:38:42,561 --> 00:38:46,461
I love seeing people
want to get on that dais.

673
00:38:46,461 --> 00:38:49,322
And nine out of ten times,
I would say Scott Newton

674
00:38:49,322 --> 00:38:51,095
it's time for you to step back.

675
00:38:51,095 --> 00:38:58,821
But not this time We need every
bit of institutional knowledge

676
00:38:58,821 --> 00:39:00,051
that we have.

677
00:39:00,051 --> 00:39:05,001
His phone book that he can pick
up a phone and call somebody.

678
00:39:05,001 --> 00:39:10,041
And these next coming
years, Tallahassee hates us.

679
00:39:10,041 --> 00:39:14,931
Plenty of people in
broward County dislike us

680
00:39:14,931 --> 00:39:18,081
but we are a special place
and we will come together

681
00:39:18,081 --> 00:39:23,151
and we will use every bit of
power every bit of knowledge

682
00:39:23,151 --> 00:39:25,761
and every bit of our
heart to make this city

683
00:39:25,761 --> 00:39:27,771
move forward Thank you.

684
00:39:27,771 --> 00:39:36,561
Thank you Anyone else like
to come up and speak ?

685
00:39:36,561 --> 00:39:38,871
Say no one.

686
00:39:38,871 --> 00:39:43,131
Sorry Late in there.

687
00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:48,921
You almost got cut off
Good evening, everyone.

688
00:39:48,921 --> 00:39:52,581
Matthew Gill, 120,
Northeast 29th Street.

689
00:39:52,581 --> 00:39:55,191
I'm speaking in favor of
the project for the shops

690
00:39:55,191 --> 00:39:57,799
at Wilton Manors,
and I'll be brief.

691
00:39:57,799 --> 00:40:01,191
I just want to go over the logic
behind the redevelopment efforts

692
00:40:01,191 --> 00:40:03,111
that we've been doing
for a few years.

693
00:40:03,111 --> 00:40:06,231
We need to add additional
taxable value to the same land

694
00:40:06,231 --> 00:40:07,581
that we have.

695
00:40:07,581 --> 00:40:11,211
We're built out When I
looked at the other cities

696
00:40:11,211 --> 00:40:14,301
in the county that are
have arts and entertainment

697
00:40:14,301 --> 00:40:19,851
districts next to single
family homes, I found four.

698
00:40:19,851 --> 00:40:23,271
The only city that had
the smaller setback

699
00:40:23,271 --> 00:40:26,061
was Hollywood At 25 to 40ft.

700
00:40:26,061 --> 00:40:27,081
Just putting it out there.

701
00:40:27,081 --> 00:40:31,281
And that's just what I found out
when I'm looking at the building

702
00:40:31,281 --> 00:40:34,791
that the aging building
and the southern

703
00:40:34,791 --> 00:40:41,871
portion of the property, it's
approximately for 48,616ft².

704
00:40:41,871 --> 00:40:43,491
That will be
demolished and replaced

705
00:40:43,491 --> 00:40:46,641
with 89 new residential units.

706
00:40:46,641 --> 00:40:48,861
So there's a different
purpose there.

707
00:40:48,861 --> 00:40:51,981
There will be an addition
of with a new project,

708
00:40:51,981 --> 00:40:56,841
assuming it passes
18,620ft² of new commercial

709
00:40:56,841 --> 00:40:58,971
space on this street.

710
00:40:58,971 --> 00:41:04,461
So it's going to be a better
use of the particular land

711
00:41:04,461 --> 00:41:07,431
When I looked at
approximate numbers

712
00:41:07,431 --> 00:41:11,226
each particular, each household
will add an approximately $2

713
00:41:11,226 --> 00:41:16,101
million per household
into our local economy

714
00:41:16,101 --> 00:41:17,991
When you're looking at
the positive impacts you

715
00:41:17,991 --> 00:41:20,603
have hired valued tenants
in the new spaces.

716
00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:25,011
This increase for traffic
from the new residents

717
00:41:25,011 --> 00:41:29,841
more stable residents due to
diversity and the tenant mix.

718
00:41:29,841 --> 00:41:35,451
Outdoor patio activation reduced
vacancies because of the aging

719
00:41:35,451 --> 00:41:39,831
structure will be redeveloped.

720
00:41:39,831 --> 00:41:42,651
So in the end, we're going to
have higher taxable property

721
00:41:42,651 --> 00:41:44,335
value for this city.

722
00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:49,131
Also, you know, you're looking
at increased commercial revenue.

723
00:41:49,131 --> 00:41:53,188
Reoccurring resin spending,
more stable entertainment

724
00:41:53,188 --> 00:41:55,221
and you're going to have reduced
traffic because you're going

725
00:41:55,221 --> 00:41:57,891
to have people that live in
those units that are going to be

726
00:41:57,891 --> 00:42:01,029
utilizing the properties I think
this is an interesting project.

727
00:42:01,029 --> 00:42:02,871
And I think it's ideal.

728
00:42:02,871 --> 00:42:05,832
However, given what
the climate is.

729
00:42:05,832 --> 00:42:10,251
And if we if this doesn't
work, we'll move on It's

730
00:42:10,251 --> 00:42:11,661
going to take a long time.

731
00:42:11,661 --> 00:42:13,671
Many years to get to this point.

732
00:42:13,671 --> 00:42:16,131
Again It's just the
nature of the beast.

733
00:42:16,131 --> 00:42:18,611
All these projects, I
would say an average Five

734
00:42:18,611 --> 00:42:20,957
years for project to get
something from the time

735
00:42:20,957 --> 00:42:23,901
that someone says, I'm
interested until it gets done.

736
00:42:23,901 --> 00:42:26,091
So you're looking
at the property

737
00:42:26,091 --> 00:42:29,511
that we have will not be
utilized to the fullest extent.

738
00:42:29,511 --> 00:42:31,131
The income will not be there.

739
00:42:31,131 --> 00:42:32,211
Thank you very much.

740
00:42:32,211 --> 00:42:41,361
Thank you Oh, they're out
here to a friend here.

741
00:42:41,361 --> 00:42:42,681
Anyone else like.

742
00:42:42,681 --> 00:42:45,744
Oh come on up.

743
00:42:45,744 --> 00:42:47,901
Hey.

744
00:42:47,901 --> 00:42:49,671
Hi there.

745
00:42:49,671 --> 00:42:52,281
I'm standing in favor
of the shops at Wilton.

746
00:42:52,281 --> 00:42:53,631
My name is Patty Baddeley.

747
00:42:53,631 --> 00:42:55,571
We're property owners
right across the street

748
00:42:55,571 --> 00:42:56,731
on Seventh Avenue.

749
00:42:56,731 --> 00:43:01,641
And 23rd Drive, Wilton manors
is a very special place.

750
00:43:01,641 --> 00:43:03,351
We've been owners
for many years,

751
00:43:03,351 --> 00:43:06,081
and i get to speak to tenants
all the time that want to move

752
00:43:06,081 --> 00:43:08,811
here nationwide to be
part of this community

753
00:43:08,811 --> 00:43:14,121
and you guys have done a great
job as council in this community

754
00:43:14,121 --> 00:43:18,141
to truly apply the slogan
Life is just simply better

755
00:43:18,141 --> 00:43:22,251
here So what I think the
blessing, though, is, is we

756
00:43:22,251 --> 00:43:26,361
have two local developers that
are stakeholders in Broward

757
00:43:26,361 --> 00:43:29,511
county and not coming
in from out of state

758
00:43:29,511 --> 00:43:32,361
or out of the country or
from South Florida somewhere

759
00:43:32,361 --> 00:43:36,411
south of Hollywood
So we have people

760
00:43:36,411 --> 00:43:37,551
that have been successful.

761
00:43:37,551 --> 00:43:39,084
Tim hernandez Area News Group.

762
00:43:39,084 --> 00:43:41,331
With other projects
here in Wilton Manors.

763
00:43:41,331 --> 00:43:44,421
He's a friend to the city,
as well as his background

764
00:43:44,421 --> 00:43:45,681
in city planning.

765
00:43:45,681 --> 00:43:49,641
So this is a beautification
It's a tax generating revenue

766
00:43:49,641 --> 00:43:51,591
but it's bringing in
other stakeholders

767
00:43:51,591 --> 00:43:53,031
and other special people.

768
00:43:53,031 --> 00:43:54,171
Part of the community.

769
00:43:54,171 --> 00:43:56,391
I don't see how
this isn't a win.

770
00:43:56,391 --> 00:43:59,241
When you look at styles, they're
on their third generation

771
00:43:59,241 --> 00:44:01,851
of building broward
in the skyline here

772
00:44:01,851 --> 00:44:05,091
And I think we should feel
grateful for who we've gotten

773
00:44:05,091 --> 00:44:06,831
in front of us,
especially compared

774
00:44:06,831 --> 00:44:08,241
to where the projects
were approved

775
00:44:08,241 --> 00:44:10,551
before This is more beautiful.

776
00:44:10,551 --> 00:44:14,721
It's ownership and it's done
with well thought out plans

777
00:44:14,721 --> 00:44:18,201
And I would just recommend
that we lead with our hearts

778
00:44:18,201 --> 00:44:19,701
like Dolly Parton might say.

779
00:44:19,701 --> 00:44:22,221
Think with our heads and
reach across the table

780
00:44:22,221 --> 00:44:30,141
and continue to make this place
where life is just better Come

781
00:44:30,141 --> 00:44:33,291
on up This may not
be the time to speak,

782
00:44:33,291 --> 00:44:35,521
but I feel I need
to Good evening.

783
00:44:35,521 --> 00:44:36,021
My name is.

784
00:44:36,021 --> 00:44:36,801
Do you care ?

785
00:44:36,801 --> 00:44:39,441
I live at 2048
Northeast sixth Terrace.

786
00:44:39,441 --> 00:44:42,471
I'm one of the affected
neighbors for this project.

787
00:44:42,471 --> 00:44:43,941
I want to be very clear tonight.

788
00:44:43,941 --> 00:44:47,181
This is not about being
against development It's not

789
00:44:47,181 --> 00:44:49,551
about stopping
progress It's about

790
00:44:49,551 --> 00:44:51,951
whether the rules of
this city commission

791
00:44:51,951 --> 00:44:56,271
adopted actually mean something
when residents rely on it.

792
00:44:56,271 --> 00:45:00,201
My husband and I lived in
our home for 16 years now.

793
00:45:00,201 --> 00:45:02,871
We bought it believe in the
city's land use regulations

794
00:45:02,871 --> 00:45:05,451
would protect the character
of our neighborhood

795
00:45:05,451 --> 00:45:08,181
and the investment
we made in our home

796
00:45:08,181 --> 00:45:13,133
The city commission estab
lished a 65 foot setback rezoned

797
00:45:13,133 --> 00:45:15,081
and relied on that protection.

798
00:45:15,081 --> 00:45:17,241
We're being asked
to accept a project

799
00:45:17,241 --> 00:45:19,821
that puts a five and
six story building

800
00:45:19,821 --> 00:45:22,431
35ft from our property line.

801
00:45:22,431 --> 00:45:25,311
That's a dramatic difference
and that should not become

802
00:45:25,311 --> 00:45:28,221
the standard in our great city.

803
00:45:28,221 --> 00:45:32,601
I have to ask if the city can
establish a 65 foot protection

804
00:45:32,601 --> 00:45:35,871
and allow a developer
to come in and reduce

805
00:45:35,871 --> 00:45:37,941
the protection to 35ft.

806
00:45:37,941 --> 00:45:39,801
What exactly are
those regulations

807
00:45:39,801 --> 00:45:42,351
worth to the residents
who live here ?

808
00:45:42,351 --> 00:45:44,751
There needs to be
clarity on your website

809
00:45:44,751 --> 00:45:48,411
about this in your
t o c district.

810
00:45:48,411 --> 00:45:51,321
Explain to residents
they have no protection

811
00:45:51,321 --> 00:45:54,981
And when it comes to
developers we keep hearing

812
00:45:54,981 --> 00:45:58,101
about landscaping trees
way they're going to soften

813
00:45:58,101 --> 00:46:02,241
the impact Landscaping does
not change the fact that a five

814
00:46:02,241 --> 00:46:05,331
story building is being
moved significantly

815
00:46:05,331 --> 00:46:09,381
closer to the people's homes
than ever before This is where I

816
00:46:09,381 --> 00:46:11,931
have a serious concern
about the message being sent

817
00:46:11,931 --> 00:46:13,971
to every homeowner
in Wilton Manors

818
00:46:13,971 --> 00:46:16,305
because we're told
to follow the code,

819
00:46:16,305 --> 00:46:18,609
we're told to build
according to the code

820
00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:20,421
and we make decisions
about our homes,

821
00:46:20,421 --> 00:46:22,251
build that based on the code.

822
00:46:22,251 --> 00:46:25,131
But when a major developer comes
forward with a project that

823
00:46:25,131 --> 00:46:27,771
does not fit those
protections, suddenly we're

824
00:46:27,771 --> 00:46:30,681
discussing exceptions,
deviations and ways

825
00:46:30,681 --> 00:46:32,481
to make the project work.

826
00:46:32,481 --> 00:46:34,791
That doesn't feel
like equal treatment.

827
00:46:34,791 --> 00:46:38,061
I asked the
commission to remember

828
00:46:38,061 --> 00:46:40,641
you're one of the ones
that adopted this code

829
00:46:40,641 --> 00:46:45,861
and we believed in you We've
always trusted your decisions.

830
00:46:45,861 --> 00:46:49,701
You represent the residents
who live and vote here today

831
00:46:49,701 --> 00:46:53,121
and the residents who will
live and vote here tomorrow.

832
00:46:53,121 --> 00:46:56,781
If the city believes the 65
foot setback is no longer

833
00:46:56,781 --> 00:46:59,991
a appropriate, then
change the code openly

834
00:46:59,991 --> 00:47:01,581
through the proper process.

835
00:47:01,581 --> 00:47:05,121
So every property owner
understands the rules

836
00:47:05,121 --> 00:47:06,951
and can be a part
of the process.

837
00:47:06,951 --> 00:47:10,491
But don't tell residents they're
protected by one standard.

838
00:47:10,491 --> 00:47:13,581
And then make an exception
when a particular project

839
00:47:13,581 --> 00:47:14,931
comes along.

840
00:47:14,931 --> 00:47:19,041
I'm asking you tonight to follow
the rules you put in place

841
00:47:19,041 --> 00:47:21,831
Protect the residents
who relied on them

842
00:47:21,831 --> 00:47:25,191
and reject the 35 foot setback.

843
00:47:25,191 --> 00:47:26,871
Develop It can happen.

844
00:47:26,871 --> 00:47:29,241
Progress can happen,
but it shouldn't

845
00:47:29,241 --> 00:47:32,091
happen with the
sacrifice the trust

846
00:47:32,091 --> 00:47:33,981
of the people who elected you.

847
00:47:33,981 --> 00:47:36,921
And already call
Wilton Manors home.

848
00:47:36,921 --> 00:47:43,611
Thank you very much Thank you.

849
00:47:43,611 --> 00:47:50,811
Anyone else like to
come up and speak

850
00:47:50,811 --> 00:47:56,281
So people may not know they
have an operating business?

851
00:47:56,281 --> 00:47:56,973
Yes.

852
00:47:56,973 --> 00:48:01,641
My name is Denis Maroney I live
at 2040 Northeast six Terrace.

853
00:48:01,641 --> 00:48:03,981
I live right next
door to Steve and Ray.

854
00:48:03,981 --> 00:48:05,571
I was a very good
speech you gave Steve.

855
00:48:05,571 --> 00:48:09,381
Thank you And if I may
add to what he said,

856
00:48:09,381 --> 00:48:10,971
what I look out of
the front of my house,

857
00:48:10,971 --> 00:48:14,571
I'm going to see a 53
foot high building.

858
00:48:14,571 --> 00:48:19,131
That would be a parking garage
for four stories of condo

859
00:48:19,131 --> 00:48:22,491
and then a planter
on top for a patio.

860
00:48:22,491 --> 00:48:28,191
That would be 53ft high and only
35ft back from the property.

861
00:48:28,191 --> 00:48:30,429
I know there's supposed
to be some kind

862
00:48:30,429 --> 00:48:31,554
of transition involved.

863
00:48:31,554 --> 00:48:35,124
But that seems really excessive
to me and has to be reconsidered

864
00:48:35,124 --> 00:48:37,371
And we're not asking for a lot.

865
00:48:37,371 --> 00:48:39,651
We're not asking to
stop the project.

866
00:48:39,651 --> 00:48:42,681
We're just asking that
it not become a canyon

867
00:48:42,681 --> 00:48:48,081
next to our homes You know,
the developer says he's done

868
00:48:48,081 --> 00:48:51,173
everything he can, that there's
finances involved that he's got

869
00:48:51,173 --> 00:48:54,861
to consider that he's
taking the Fifth story away

870
00:48:54,861 --> 00:48:58,071
and moved it somewhere
else. it looks like if he

871
00:48:58,071 --> 00:48:59,666
could just take away four.

872
00:48:59,666 --> 00:49:00,310
Nope.

873
00:49:00,310 --> 00:49:01,275
I'm sorry.

874
00:49:01,275 --> 00:49:05,331
3 small condos and make
it just three stories high

875
00:49:05,331 --> 00:49:10,431
that it would be more
acceptable There the architect

876
00:49:10,431 --> 00:49:12,835
kind of developed the
building as three towers.

877
00:49:12,835 --> 00:49:17,931
It's one building but three
towers and there is a tower that

878
00:49:17,931 --> 00:49:21,456
is along Seventh
Avenue, right across

879
00:49:21,456 --> 00:49:26,751
from the Italian american
Club It's a 100ft

880
00:49:26,751 --> 00:49:28,551
closer to the drive.

881
00:49:28,551 --> 00:49:30,021
It's five stories.

882
00:49:30,021 --> 00:49:35,361
It's right adjacent to another
tower that is six stories high.

883
00:49:35,361 --> 00:49:38,421
You could add a six
story to that tower.

884
00:49:38,421 --> 00:49:41,571
It could be serviced
by the same elevators.

885
00:49:41,571 --> 00:49:43,401
And the sunset.

886
00:49:43,401 --> 00:49:47,331
Loescher It would be
closer to the drive out

887
00:49:47,331 --> 00:49:51,651
of the residential neighborhood
Could and would not

888
00:49:51,651 --> 00:49:55,461
only give them the three condos
that they're taking away,

889
00:49:55,461 --> 00:49:58,761
but would give them really twice
the square footage because it's

890
00:49:58,761 --> 00:50:01,671
a much bigger tower
and they wouldn't

891
00:50:01,671 --> 00:50:02,751
be losing square footage.

892
00:50:02,751 --> 00:50:05,811
They'd be gaining
square footage And I

893
00:50:05,811 --> 00:50:07,791
don't know if they've
considered that already

894
00:50:07,791 --> 00:50:09,711
or not They probably have.

895
00:50:09,711 --> 00:50:11,391
And I really be
interested in knowing

896
00:50:11,391 --> 00:50:13,671
why it was rejected
because it seems

897
00:50:13,671 --> 00:50:15,831
like a very good idea to me.

898
00:50:15,831 --> 00:50:20,061
I think this building could
be built but in a better way.

899
00:50:20,061 --> 00:50:22,161
I think right now it's
not the time to pass it.

900
00:50:22,161 --> 00:50:24,261
I think maybe it
needs to be studied

901
00:50:24,261 --> 00:50:31,101
and worked a little bit more
and i hope we get the best

902
00:50:31,101 --> 00:50:32,061
thing for the community.

903
00:50:32,061 --> 00:50:51,561
Thank you Anyone else like
to come up and speak ?

904
00:50:51,561 --> 00:50:52,821
Michael allison.

905
00:50:52,821 --> 00:50:55,461
2624 Northwest six hour.

906
00:50:55,461 --> 00:50:58,131
I think it's encouraging that
there is an experienced Broward

907
00:50:58,131 --> 00:51:00,111
County based developer
interested in developing

908
00:51:00,111 --> 00:51:04,581
a substantial project And will
manners variance negotiation

909
00:51:04,581 --> 00:51:08,361
doesn't always seem fair but
it's the reality of how the game

910
00:51:08,361 --> 00:51:13,401
is played in cities that are
experiencing development which

911
00:51:13,401 --> 00:51:16,881
will manners has not been part
of at least not in the last five

912
00:51:16,881 --> 00:51:18,051
years that I've been here.

913
00:51:18,051 --> 00:51:20,571
And from what I understand
for years prior to that I've

914
00:51:20,571 --> 00:51:21,562
been here five years.

915
00:51:21,562 --> 00:51:23,001
I moved here.

916
00:51:23,001 --> 00:51:24,741
The only thing I've
seen built is a handful

917
00:51:24,741 --> 00:51:27,801
of redeveloped single
family home sites

918
00:51:27,801 --> 00:51:29,643
in the recently
in our townhomes.

919
00:51:29,643 --> 00:51:31,581
If it wasn't for a
huge fire, I'm not sure

920
00:51:31,581 --> 00:51:35,104
that the Lennar Townhomes
will be a reality today

921
00:51:35,104 --> 00:51:38,467
At the same time surrounding
cities big and small

922
00:51:38,467 --> 00:51:41,721
have experienced a substantial
amount of development

923
00:51:41,721 --> 00:51:43,041
in the past ten years.

924
00:51:43,041 --> 00:51:47,241
Palm Beach County Broward
County areas I'm familiar with.

925
00:51:47,241 --> 00:51:48,441
I see projects everywhere.

926
00:51:48,441 --> 00:51:49,851
Small towns and big towns.

927
00:51:49,851 --> 00:51:52,791
Even the small town of Lake
Worth which for years had

928
00:51:52,791 --> 00:51:57,417
practically no development, as
well as similar world manners

929
00:51:57,417 --> 00:51:59,451
And those cities are going
to be in a better position

930
00:51:59,451 --> 00:52:00,681
to deal with the
potential budget

931
00:52:00,681 --> 00:52:04,401
challenges If
Amendment three passes,

932
00:52:04,401 --> 00:52:07,281
I hope that the current and
future city commissioners

933
00:52:07,281 --> 00:52:09,201
take a hard look
as to why there's

934
00:52:09,201 --> 00:52:12,321
been so little development
activity in world manners

935
00:52:12,321 --> 00:52:16,191
and how to get on the bandwagon
to get project belt out

936
00:52:16,191 --> 00:52:20,181
of the ground and expand our
tax base A stagnant tax base

937
00:52:20,181 --> 00:52:23,841
will not allow the city to
maintain and replace the aging

938
00:52:23,841 --> 00:52:26,871
infrastructure that we have
presently while delivering

939
00:52:26,871 --> 00:52:29,181
a level of service
that our residents

940
00:52:29,181 --> 00:52:30,561
have become accustomed to.

941
00:52:30,561 --> 00:52:37,911
Thank you You Is
there anyone else like

942
00:52:37,911 --> 00:52:41,391
to come up and speak with that?

943
00:52:41,391 --> 00:52:45,231
I'll close the public
hearing and we'll

944
00:52:45,231 --> 00:52:46,716
move on to consent agenda.

945
00:52:46,716 --> 00:52:48,651
Anybody have a motion
or anything be pulled?

946
00:52:48,651 --> 00:52:50,481
I'm sorry.

947
00:52:50,481 --> 00:52:52,071
Hearing none.

948
00:52:52,071 --> 00:52:54,111
What do we do The appointments.

949
00:52:54,111 --> 00:52:55,894
That's after.

950
00:52:55,894 --> 00:52:56,394
Anyway.

951
00:52:56,394 --> 00:52:57,141
Have a motion.

952
00:52:57,141 --> 00:52:59,031
I'll make a motion for a second.

953
00:52:59,031 --> 00:53:05,511
I will second it on the
question is, Vice Mayor Caputo

954
00:53:05,511 --> 00:53:07,161
Yes, Commissioner Dominello.

955
00:53:07,161 --> 00:53:07,671
Yes.

956
00:53:07,671 --> 00:53:09,951
Commissioner Brockie
Yes, Commissioner.

957
00:53:09,951 --> 00:53:13,581
Really Can I present
a Mayor Newton Yes.

958
00:53:13,581 --> 00:53:14,191
Director.

959
00:53:14,191 --> 00:53:14,691
All right.

960
00:53:14,691 --> 00:53:21,351
We moved up the cap the cab
from at the back of the meeting.

961
00:53:21,351 --> 00:53:23,931
Community Affairs
Advisory Board If I can,

962
00:53:23,931 --> 00:53:26,481
Mayor I'd like to make a
suggestion if, if the Commission

963
00:53:26,481 --> 00:53:30,831
is open to it There are five
of open positions that are,

964
00:53:30,831 --> 00:53:32,671
you know three normal.

965
00:53:32,671 --> 00:53:37,389
And then two that are alternate
correct If there's a willingness

966
00:53:37,389 --> 00:53:41,571
by the commission you know,
I'd like to suggest that we all

967
00:53:41,571 --> 00:53:43,054
those that are here
tonight you know,

968
00:53:43,054 --> 00:53:45,021
that they move in a full time
positions and those that have

969
00:53:45,021 --> 00:53:46,761
been out of town, you
know that we put them

970
00:53:46,761 --> 00:53:48,921
in alternate positions since
all are ultimately going to get

971
00:53:48,921 --> 00:53:52,881
a position If there's
not, I'm happy we're

972
00:53:52,881 --> 00:53:54,702
happy to do that the
regular voting process.

973
00:53:54,702 --> 00:53:56,492
But yeah look at that.

974
00:53:56,492 --> 00:53:59,363
Well, just to clarify, I don't
believe that there are alternate

975
00:53:59,363 --> 00:54:02,248
So I think that these are
people that are unfilled or.

976
00:54:02,248 --> 00:54:02,748
Sorry.

977
00:54:02,748 --> 00:54:05,511
Yeah And your term
or partial terms.

978
00:54:05,511 --> 00:54:06,136
You're correct.

979
00:54:06,136 --> 00:54:06,636
OK.

980
00:54:06,636 --> 00:54:07,136
Yeah.

981
00:54:07,136 --> 00:54:08,206
Just to clear.

982
00:54:08,206 --> 00:54:10,018
So the longer term will
be the ones that are here

983
00:54:10,018 --> 00:54:11,451
and the shorter terms
will be the ones that

984
00:54:11,451 --> 00:54:13,971
are right That's my suggestion.

985
00:54:13,971 --> 00:54:15,690
If there's other
one they with that,

986
00:54:15,690 --> 00:54:17,685
I just so there are two
shorter term percent

987
00:54:17,685 --> 00:54:20,455
of the time those revisions to
figure out because the longer we

988
00:54:20,455 --> 00:54:23,961
have the same
other the same okay

989
00:54:23,961 --> 00:54:28,821
i mean Bob's when I make a
motion for that so would you

990
00:54:28,821 --> 00:54:34,191
like me for the record since it
won't be on the recording, who's

991
00:54:34,191 --> 00:54:35,361
present or not You?

992
00:54:35,361 --> 00:54:38,001
Yeah, please Actually,
is everyone present that

993
00:54:38,001 --> 00:54:43,371
says they're going to be here
this week Cabell Victor Hess

994
00:54:43,371 --> 00:54:48,231
and Mia rodriguez or
anybody else that is Victor

995
00:54:48,231 --> 00:54:52,675
Victor Victor has
there goes your idea,

996
00:54:52,675 --> 00:54:57,501
I guess I here all right.

997
00:54:57,501 --> 00:55:00,261
Well, we're trying
to make it quickly.

998
00:55:00,261 --> 00:55:02,090
So who is here?

999
00:55:02,090 --> 00:55:04,101
So we have Carville
and Carville.

1000
00:55:04,101 --> 00:55:14,241
You want to come up ?

1001
00:55:14,241 --> 00:55:16,791
Oh, hey, hey, everyone
My name is Carville.

1002
00:55:16,791 --> 00:55:19,941
Esther Black and I'm a
resident of 2008 North East

1003
00:55:19,941 --> 00:55:22,461
Third Avenue, apartment one.

1004
00:55:22,461 --> 00:55:27,591
And i guess this is actually,
I been on cab before

1005
00:55:27,591 --> 00:55:30,741
and just want to say
this is be my third term.

1006
00:55:30,741 --> 00:55:35,511
And hopefully I can keep some
kind I've been on there before.

1007
00:55:35,511 --> 00:55:38,691
So some of the competition
which I have written,

1008
00:55:38,691 --> 00:55:42,291
the women's History
Award I'm previously

1009
00:55:42,291 --> 00:55:47,211
on Cab along with African
History american Award.

1010
00:55:47,211 --> 00:55:51,111
That was also along
with one year we ended

1011
00:55:51,111 --> 00:55:54,591
with their Caribbean festival
that just happened right

1012
00:55:54,591 --> 00:55:57,681
here at richardson
Park And I just

1013
00:55:57,681 --> 00:56:01,191
want to say that i really
enjoy being cab and serving

1014
00:56:01,191 --> 00:56:04,641
my community and I really
love this community I just

1015
00:56:04,641 --> 00:56:08,012
want to say that just
coming in February 13,

1016
00:56:08,012 --> 00:56:11,813
I am going to be getting
married here ever.

1017
00:56:11,813 --> 00:56:15,981
She's in Park and just
want to put that out there.

1018
00:56:15,981 --> 00:56:19,701
So i know it's not really
a cab, but just want

1019
00:56:19,701 --> 00:56:22,341
to say is a sense of
about me being involved

1020
00:56:22,341 --> 00:56:24,291
in this community and this one.

1021
00:56:24,291 --> 00:56:25,281
I share that.

1022
00:56:25,281 --> 00:56:27,441
So thank you Any questions?

1023
00:56:27,441 --> 00:56:29,271
But thanks for your
service on the board

1024
00:56:29,271 --> 00:56:30,801
all these years Thank you.

1025
00:56:30,801 --> 00:56:33,201
Thank you All right.

1026
00:56:33,201 --> 00:56:34,371
At a time Yeah.

1027
00:56:34,371 --> 00:56:36,291
Mr. Hess.

1028
00:56:36,291 --> 00:56:36,891
Right here.

1029
00:56:36,891 --> 00:56:40,791
Mrs. Rodriguez Come on up.

1030
00:56:40,791 --> 00:56:44,121
I see you have a
helper with you today.

1031
00:56:44,121 --> 00:56:50,290
Assistant I'm sorry
And hi, everyone.

1032
00:56:50,290 --> 00:56:52,491
My name is Maya
Rodriguez, and this is.

1033
00:56:52,491 --> 00:56:57,261
I'm a I have been a resident
of Waterman ten for since 2021.

1034
00:56:57,261 --> 00:57:01,401
In service to the cab has
been a big experience for me

1035
00:57:01,401 --> 00:57:04,561
because I see what
everybody's here like.

1036
00:57:04,561 --> 00:57:05,061
You.

1037
00:57:05,061 --> 00:57:07,821
Everyone over there on
a board it's over here

1038
00:57:07,821 --> 00:57:10,791
just to try to see what's
best for will miners

1039
00:57:10,791 --> 00:57:14,331
and that's why I'm here,
because I moved here 2021,

1040
00:57:14,331 --> 00:57:18,051
and I love this place and
brought my son with me

1041
00:57:18,051 --> 00:57:20,461
And I'm ready to
serve another term.

1042
00:57:20,461 --> 00:57:20,961
Good.

1043
00:57:20,961 --> 00:57:22,401
Thanks for having
me Any questions?

1044
00:57:22,401 --> 00:57:25,195
You may think it's for you.

1045
00:57:25,195 --> 00:57:25,851
Thank you.

1046
00:57:25,851 --> 00:57:26,351
You.

1047
00:57:26,351 --> 00:57:27,861
Appreciate it.

1048
00:57:27,861 --> 00:57:34,341
Good This is the way
we normally vote.

1049
00:57:34,341 --> 00:57:36,117
Everyone's going to get
the same amount of votes

1050
00:57:36,117 --> 00:57:38,162
that those we
don't score one on.

1051
00:57:38,162 --> 00:57:38,662
That's right.

1052
00:57:38,662 --> 00:57:39,162
I forgot.

1053
00:57:39,162 --> 00:57:39,891
So I forgot that one.

1054
00:57:39,891 --> 00:57:40,637
I need to think about.

1055
00:57:40,637 --> 00:57:44,211
We should just vote
for the top three

1056
00:57:44,211 --> 00:57:47,091
and then the other two
would be the shorter

1057
00:57:47,091 --> 00:57:50,858
terms We can do it if you want.

1058
00:57:50,858 --> 00:57:51,358
Right.

1059
00:57:51,358 --> 00:57:53,305
And you'll be problems
that That's fine with me.

1060
00:57:53,305 --> 00:57:53,805
I'm with me.

1061
00:57:53,805 --> 00:58:18,831
All right, let's do that I See.

1062
00:58:18,831 --> 00:58:23,991
Attorney Do you have anything
Member We're waiting Waiting

1063
00:58:23,991 --> 00:58:26,601
for the calculation, right?

1064
00:58:26,601 --> 00:58:33,201
I do OK I can keep
the meeting moving.

1065
00:58:33,201 --> 00:58:33,891
Understood.

1066
00:58:33,891 --> 00:58:39,681
Thank you I like to request the
shade session in case number.

1067
00:58:39,681 --> 00:58:46,611
CAC 25 hyphen zero zero
9 to 8 six in the circuit

1068
00:58:46,611 --> 00:58:47,991
court of the 17th.

1069
00:58:47,991 --> 00:58:51,981
You just circuit and in for
Broward County city or Wilton

1070
00:58:51,981 --> 00:58:57,231
Manors versus Blue Sky
Investment Group LLC

1071
00:58:57,231 --> 00:59:02,601
We're requesting that we
have a state's session

1072
00:59:02,601 --> 00:59:08,001
as we desire to get some advice
concerning the litigation

1073
00:59:08,001 --> 00:59:12,951
and settlement and related to
the litigation expenditures

1074
00:59:12,951 --> 00:59:15,651
and city manager We have
any early meeting before

1075
00:59:15,651 --> 00:59:17,841
our next commission meeting.

1076
00:59:17,841 --> 00:59:18,506
Is that okay?

1077
00:59:18,506 --> 00:59:22,401
You be back for that or he
will Is that okay with him?

1078
00:59:22,401 --> 00:59:25,071
You know the first
meeting in September,

1079
00:59:25,071 --> 00:59:26,521
I believe that'll be okay.

1080
00:59:26,521 --> 00:59:27,021
Yeah.

1081
00:59:27,021 --> 00:59:29,121
We'll we'll have to
advertise and we'll make

1082
00:59:29,121 --> 00:59:30,441
sure that that's appropriate.

1083
00:59:30,441 --> 00:59:33,861
And if not, we'll we have
the direction to advertise

1084
00:59:33,861 --> 00:59:34,836
is what we're seeking now.

1085
00:59:34,836 --> 00:59:35,336
So.

1086
00:59:35,336 --> 00:59:35,931
All right.

1087
00:59:35,931 --> 00:59:38,451
And how much time do you
think this will take?

1088
00:59:38,451 --> 00:59:38,961
Half hour.

1089
00:59:38,961 --> 00:59:45,531
An hour for advertising
purposes let's say an hour.

1090
00:59:45,531 --> 00:59:48,141
And if we need less,
well, we'll advertise

1091
00:59:48,141 --> 00:59:50,630
less just so that it's.

1092
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:55,071
That's fine for 6:00 in
the first meetings of two.

1093
00:59:55,071 --> 00:59:56,481
So good.

1094
00:59:56,481 --> 00:59:57,400
Anything else?

1095
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,347
Are you got a question?

1096
00:59:59,347 --> 00:59:59,996
No.

1097
00:59:59,996 --> 01:00:02,121
OK I'm sorry you had your up.

1098
01:00:02,121 --> 01:00:03,261
Anything else?

1099
01:00:03,261 --> 01:00:04,251
No, sir Okay.

1100
01:00:04,251 --> 01:00:04,971
Thank you.

1101
01:00:04,971 --> 01:00:05,631
You're ready later?

1102
01:00:05,631 --> 01:00:06,621
Yes.

1103
01:00:06,621 --> 01:00:11,268
So we are required to read
the votes into the the record.

1104
01:00:11,268 --> 01:00:13,641
Commissioner Brockie
for the full term

1105
01:00:13,641 --> 01:00:18,111
selected carville as Triplett
Tim mattingly and Mia Rodriguez,

1106
01:00:18,111 --> 01:00:20,301
Commissioner Da Mineo
selected carville

1107
01:00:20,301 --> 01:00:22,251
as Triplett Victor hess.

1108
01:00:22,251 --> 01:00:25,851
Mia Rodriguez Vice Mayor
Caputo selected Carville

1109
01:00:25,851 --> 01:00:28,791
as Triplett Victor Hess Mia
Rodriguez and Mayor Newton

1110
01:00:28,791 --> 01:00:33,381
selected carville as Triplett
Stephen gauche and Mia Rodriguez

1111
01:00:33,381 --> 01:00:38,691
So your full term members on
Cab will be Carville as Triplett

1112
01:00:38,691 --> 01:00:44,691
Victor Hess and Mia Rodriguez
the Onyx buyer terms will be

1113
01:00:44,691 --> 01:00:46,771
Stephen gold and Tim Mattingly.

1114
01:00:46,771 --> 01:00:47,271
All right.

1115
01:00:47,271 --> 01:00:51,744
So I'm going to make the motion
I'll make the motion that we

1116
01:00:51,744 --> 01:00:54,711
limit Carvel Aster five
Victor House and Mayor

1117
01:00:54,711 --> 01:00:57,321
Rodriguez for the
full term and Stephen

1118
01:00:57,321 --> 01:01:01,911
Gauche and Timothy mattingly
for the unexpired terms.

1119
01:01:01,911 --> 01:01:03,333
Is there a second?

1120
01:01:03,333 --> 01:01:04,371
I will second it.

1121
01:01:04,371 --> 01:01:04,881
Thank you.

1122
01:01:04,881 --> 01:01:06,862
Call the question,
Vice Mayor Caputo.

1123
01:01:06,862 --> 01:01:08,631
Yes, Commissioner dominello Yes.

1124
01:01:08,631 --> 01:01:10,131
Commissioner Brockie Yes.

1125
01:01:10,131 --> 01:01:11,211
Mayor Newton.

1126
01:01:11,211 --> 01:01:12,711
Yes All right.

1127
01:01:12,711 --> 01:01:15,021
Ordinance 2020 6-016.

1128
01:01:15,021 --> 01:01:16,941
We are moving to
the first meeting

1129
01:01:16,941 --> 01:01:20,841
in September order ordinance.

1130
01:01:20,841 --> 01:01:22,041
First reading.

1131
01:01:22,041 --> 01:01:25,491
We're in the 2020 6-017.

1132
01:01:25,491 --> 01:01:29,091
Please read an ordinance of
the city Commission of the City

1133
01:01:29,091 --> 01:01:31,371
of Wilton Manors Florida
Amending the Unified

1134
01:01:31,371 --> 01:01:32,901
Land development Regulations.

1135
01:01:32,901 --> 01:01:39,231
You are by amending section
010-030 terms defined providing

1136
01:01:39,231 --> 01:01:41,391
for codification,
providing for severability,

1137
01:01:41,391 --> 01:01:42,951
providing for
conflicts and providing

1138
01:01:42,951 --> 01:01:50,181
for an effective date Thank
you Community service director.

1139
01:01:50,181 --> 01:02:09,141
I guess you are
up You're welcome

1140
01:02:09,141 --> 01:02:12,381
Roberta Moore, director of
Human Services mayor Commission.

1141
01:02:12,381 --> 01:02:15,471
This ordinance is tied to
the previous ordinance that

1142
01:02:15,471 --> 01:02:21,021
was tabled to the next meeting
There is some modification

1143
01:02:21,021 --> 01:02:23,623
to the changes of
defined mission,

1144
01:02:23,623 --> 01:02:25,633
so there's definitions
that are in Article 30

1145
01:02:25,633 --> 01:02:27,411
that we are proposing
to delete Add

1146
01:02:27,411 --> 01:02:30,651
in chapter ten or Article ten.

1147
01:02:30,651 --> 01:02:33,381
And so i'm happy to go
through the presentation

1148
01:02:33,381 --> 01:02:35,751
if you would like,
or if you would like

1149
01:02:35,751 --> 01:02:39,321
to continue it to
the same meeting

1150
01:02:39,321 --> 01:02:42,381
as what we would
hear article 34.

1151
01:02:42,381 --> 01:02:44,601
What's the pleasure
of the Commission?

1152
01:02:44,601 --> 01:02:45,621
They're correlated right?

1153
01:02:45,621 --> 01:02:48,951
So do we need to
hear them together

1154
01:02:48,951 --> 01:02:50,571
again We can proceed forward.

1155
01:02:50,571 --> 01:02:54,291
We're looking eventually to
delete them out of Article 13

1156
01:02:54,291 --> 01:02:56,631
them into ten.

1157
01:02:56,631 --> 01:02:58,041
So again, we can proceed.

1158
01:02:58,041 --> 01:03:01,221
But I just want to be
transparent with the intention

1159
01:03:01,221 --> 01:03:02,181
of what this board.

1160
01:03:02,181 --> 01:03:02,757
But this.

1161
01:03:02,757 --> 01:03:04,716
This is only
definitions, correct?

1162
01:03:04,716 --> 01:03:05,346
Correct.

1163
01:03:05,346 --> 01:03:10,056
OK I mean, I'm finding the
way Well, whatever you want.

1164
01:03:10,056 --> 01:03:11,506
I mean, I don't care either.

1165
01:03:11,506 --> 01:03:12,006
OK?

1166
01:03:12,006 --> 01:03:15,248
I don't have any
issues right You mean,

1167
01:03:15,248 --> 01:03:17,030
you think it should
be long, lengthy,

1168
01:03:17,030 --> 01:03:19,125
or we can proceed forward
again for transparency?

1169
01:03:19,125 --> 01:03:20,322
I just wanted to let you.

1170
01:03:20,322 --> 01:03:20,835
I know.

1171
01:03:20,835 --> 01:03:21,348
I know.

1172
01:03:21,348 --> 01:03:23,131
I just need some other
ones and an article

1173
01:03:23,131 --> 01:03:24,825
30 that are going to be deleted.

1174
01:03:24,825 --> 01:03:26,481
Which are these Right.

1175
01:03:26,481 --> 01:03:27,081
So.

1176
01:03:27,081 --> 01:03:31,341
So for this ordinance
what we are looking to do

1177
01:03:31,341 --> 01:03:38,704
is so we need it
read Yes I read it.

1178
01:03:38,704 --> 01:03:40,971
So yeah here at the title.

1179
01:03:40,971 --> 01:03:45,591
Sorry, I apologize
I'm sorry, Mayor.

1180
01:03:45,591 --> 01:03:47,661
So what we are looking
to do is add definitions

1181
01:03:47,661 --> 01:03:53,001
into article ten of our unified
land development regulations.

1182
01:03:53,001 --> 01:03:55,161
The new definitions,
specifically our banquet hall

1183
01:03:55,161 --> 01:03:58,851
contractor flex space, health
and fitness center incubator

1184
01:03:58,851 --> 01:04:02,451
space pop up shop and watercraft
or water vehicle Those are

1185
01:04:02,451 --> 01:04:05,841
uses that we are looking
again to add in article 30

1186
01:04:05,841 --> 01:04:10,101
and we are looking to update
awnings private clubs, floor

1187
01:04:10,101 --> 01:04:13,308
area ratio and restaurants This
did go before the planning,

1188
01:04:13,308 --> 01:04:13,808
zoning board.

1189
01:04:13,808 --> 01:04:16,521
They did recommend approval
to the city commission.

1190
01:04:16,521 --> 01:04:17,811
Again, this is first reading.

1191
01:04:17,811 --> 01:04:19,401
If you have any questions.

1192
01:04:19,401 --> 01:04:21,741
All of this was based
upon direction of the city

1193
01:04:21,741 --> 01:04:24,561
commission Any questions?

1194
01:04:24,561 --> 01:04:25,461
No, I'm good with it.

1195
01:04:25,461 --> 01:04:30,081
I'm good with it All right.

1196
01:04:30,081 --> 01:04:34,281
Is there a motion I think I
made a motion to make a motion.

1197
01:04:34,281 --> 01:04:36,531
But your second, I will.

1198
01:04:36,531 --> 01:04:37,911
Second part of me.

1199
01:04:37,911 --> 01:04:38,571
I didn't hear the.

1200
01:04:38,571 --> 01:04:39,231
I made the motion.

1201
01:04:39,231 --> 01:04:41,211
So you.

1202
01:04:41,211 --> 01:04:44,571
Any discussion
call the question.

1203
01:04:44,571 --> 01:04:46,191
Vice Mayor Caputo Yes.

1204
01:04:46,191 --> 01:04:47,691
Commissioner Dami Neo Yes.

1205
01:04:47,691 --> 01:04:48,981
Commissioner Brockie Yes.

1206
01:04:48,981 --> 01:04:50,246
Commissioner Rowley yes.

1207
01:04:50,246 --> 01:04:52,251
Mayor Newton Yes.

1208
01:04:52,251 --> 01:04:55,551
Ordinance 2020 6-018.

1209
01:04:55,551 --> 01:04:59,091
Please read an ordinance of
the City Commission of the City

1210
01:04:59,091 --> 01:05:01,131
of Wilton Manors,
Florida Repealing

1211
01:05:01,131 --> 01:05:09,621
Resolutions Numbers 2020 4-010
2020 4-013 and 2020 4-014.

1212
01:05:09,621 --> 01:05:13,521
Amending section
020-020 entitled

1213
01:05:13,521 --> 01:05:16,371
District map by rezoning
the property known

1214
01:05:16,371 --> 01:05:20,481
as 2200 2292 Wilton Drive.

1215
01:05:20,481 --> 01:05:23,121
Wilton Manors Florida
as more particularly

1216
01:05:23,121 --> 01:05:27,051
described in Exhibit A attached
here to rezoning the property

1217
01:05:27,051 --> 01:05:29,181
from Wilton Drive
Arts and Entertainment

1218
01:05:29,181 --> 01:05:32,751
district to planned
unit development m

1219
01:05:32,751 --> 01:05:37,071
m contingent upon allocating
89 flexibility units

1220
01:05:37,071 --> 01:05:40,041
and/or redevelopment units
by resolution of the City

1221
01:05:40,041 --> 01:05:43,431
Commission of the City of wilton
Manors granting final site

1222
01:05:43,431 --> 01:05:45,801
plan approval
providing for a complex

1223
01:05:45,801 --> 01:05:48,542
providing for severability and
providing for an effective date.

1224
01:05:48,542 --> 01:05:49,231
Thank you.

1225
01:05:49,231 --> 01:05:49,731
You.

1226
01:05:49,731 --> 01:05:54,891
Is there a motion I'll make a
motion to approve your second.

1227
01:05:54,891 --> 01:05:56,001
I'll second the motion.

1228
01:05:56,001 --> 01:06:00,141
Thank you Director Moore,
do you want to go first

1229
01:06:00,141 --> 01:06:03,771
or would you like to
applicant to go first?

1230
01:06:03,771 --> 01:06:10,652
As roberta Moore Director of
Human Development Services Mayor

1231
01:06:10,652 --> 01:06:11,845
I'm happy to do
the presentation.

1232
01:06:11,845 --> 01:06:14,521
First, unless you would like
to hear from the applicant,

1233
01:06:14,521 --> 01:06:16,221
I will ask the applicant
Would you want to go first

1234
01:06:16,221 --> 01:06:18,393
or would you like to
get a second camera

1235
01:06:18,393 --> 01:06:19,492
to go first or second?

1236
01:06:19,492 --> 01:06:24,021
You're pointing you want
to go second, right Go

1237
01:06:24,021 --> 01:06:26,001
ahead Thank you again, Roberta.

1238
01:06:26,001 --> 01:06:27,471
More director of
Community Services.

1239
01:06:27,471 --> 01:06:30,771
This is a rezoning application
for the property known

1240
01:06:30,771 --> 01:06:36,381
as Shoppes at Wilton Manors
This is a rezoning from wilton

1241
01:06:36,381 --> 01:06:39,981
Drive Arts and Entertainment to
planned unit development mixed.

1242
01:06:39,981 --> 01:06:41,751
So are planned unit
developments We

1243
01:06:41,751 --> 01:06:43,581
have a number of different
types because this

1244
01:06:43,581 --> 01:06:45,561
is to use as commercial
and residential

1245
01:06:45,561 --> 01:06:47,571
So they are requesting a pod.

1246
01:06:47,571 --> 01:06:50,271
M This did go before the
planning and zoning board

1247
01:06:50,271 --> 01:06:52,945
on June 16th where
they did recommend

1248
01:06:52,945 --> 01:06:55,551
approval subject
to the conditions

1249
01:06:55,551 --> 01:06:57,801
identified in the staff report.

1250
01:06:57,801 --> 01:07:00,561
There is a subsequent
application,

1251
01:07:00,561 --> 01:07:03,951
which is the site plan that
is also tied to the rezoning

1252
01:07:03,951 --> 01:07:05,661
because this is a PUD.

1253
01:07:05,661 --> 01:07:06,771
They are tied together.

1254
01:07:06,771 --> 01:07:08,601
The site plan does
become an exhibit

1255
01:07:08,601 --> 01:07:10,701
to the rezoning ordinance.

1256
01:07:10,701 --> 01:07:15,051
Should the Commission adopt the
rezoning as part of this process

1257
01:07:15,051 --> 01:07:20,390
The PUD terms, please.

1258
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:24,732
What would happen as
part of the process

1259
01:07:24,732 --> 01:07:28,161
The party document, which
is the governing regulations

1260
01:07:28,161 --> 01:07:32,661
It does become an attachment
also to this rezoning

1261
01:07:32,661 --> 01:07:33,291
of the property.

1262
01:07:33,291 --> 01:07:38,571
Thank you Additional
concurrent request which

1263
01:07:38,571 --> 01:07:42,261
would be at second reading,
should first reading pass

1264
01:07:42,261 --> 01:07:44,511
because there was a
previously approved project

1265
01:07:44,511 --> 01:07:48,801
called Wilma on this property,
there is a number of resolutions

1266
01:07:48,801 --> 01:07:50,814
that we will have
to bring forward.

1267
01:07:50,814 --> 01:07:54,231
Release saying or rescinding
those previous approvals.

1268
01:07:54,231 --> 01:07:58,851
Those do include agreements
and flex units where then also

1269
01:07:58,851 --> 01:08:00,891
going to have
subsequent resolutions

1270
01:08:00,891 --> 01:08:05,361
approving new agreements and
the allocation of those units.

1271
01:08:05,361 --> 01:08:08,181
So again, just to be clear, and
it's further in the presentation

1272
01:08:08,181 --> 01:08:11,331
as well on the back
up, the Wilma project

1273
01:08:11,331 --> 01:08:13,617
was allocated 252 units.

1274
01:08:13,617 --> 01:08:19,281
This project is only requesting
the allocation of 89 units

1275
01:08:19,281 --> 01:08:21,741
So this project is
located at Wilton Drive

1276
01:08:21,741 --> 01:08:23,871
and Northeast seventh Avenue.

1277
01:08:23,871 --> 01:08:26,601
There is an existing building
that will be demolished as part

1278
01:08:26,601 --> 01:08:31,761
of this project So here are some
rendering lines of the project.

1279
01:08:31,761 --> 01:08:32,971
Again, it is mixed use.

1280
01:08:32,971 --> 01:08:34,816
You have your residential
in the rear and commercial

1281
01:08:34,816 --> 01:08:39,561
in the front, along
wilton Drive When

1282
01:08:39,561 --> 01:08:41,511
we look at the
back of materials,

1283
01:08:41,511 --> 01:08:43,941
there's four buildings
that are identified.

1284
01:08:43,941 --> 01:08:45,411
So we really just
want to make sure

1285
01:08:45,411 --> 01:08:47,271
that everyone
clearly understands

1286
01:08:47,271 --> 01:08:48,651
what those buildings are.

1287
01:08:48,651 --> 01:08:51,951
With reference, building a
is the existing building.

1288
01:08:51,951 --> 01:08:54,801
B and C are the commercials
that are proposed,

1289
01:08:54,801 --> 01:09:00,201
and then D is that
resident Again,

1290
01:09:00,201 --> 01:09:03,411
this slide is really shown to
go through what the landscape

1291
01:09:03,411 --> 01:09:05,388
buffers are going to look like.

1292
01:09:05,388 --> 01:09:11,091
As part of this project The
building height there is four

1293
01:09:11,091 --> 01:09:13,971
stories that is proposed
adjacent to the single family

1294
01:09:13,971 --> 01:09:20,121
homes So when we look at the
elevation here of this project,

1295
01:09:20,121 --> 01:09:23,751
there is a parking garage
underneath It's about 6.5ft that

1296
01:09:23,751 --> 01:09:26,781
is sticking up from that
from the floor level,

1297
01:09:26,781 --> 01:09:30,381
if you will So when we look
at the height of this project,

1298
01:09:30,381 --> 01:09:32,361
it's not just a flat 40ft.

1299
01:09:32,361 --> 01:09:36,051
It is 48.6, 48.5ft.

1300
01:09:36,051 --> 01:09:37,821
And that, again, is
taking six and a half

1301
01:09:37,821 --> 01:09:41,781
of that parking garage
into consideration

1302
01:09:41,781 --> 01:09:43,521
So as part of the
Puti regulations,

1303
01:09:43,521 --> 01:09:46,371
a shadow or shade
study is required

1304
01:09:46,371 --> 01:09:49,191
We do have those as part
of the presentation,

1305
01:09:49,191 --> 01:09:51,651
but again also as
part of the back up.

1306
01:09:51,651 --> 01:09:53,601
There are certain
criterias in our code

1307
01:09:53,601 --> 01:09:57,681
when we do look at what
these shade or shadow is how

1308
01:09:57,681 --> 01:10:02,691
it is reflective upon our
neighbors to any project

1309
01:10:02,691 --> 01:10:05,767
and we'll go through those
here, as you can see,

1310
01:10:05,767 --> 01:10:10,857
there is minimal impact
Part of the overall.

1311
01:10:10,857 --> 01:10:14,421
There's also required to be
a pedestrian and access plan

1312
01:10:14,421 --> 01:10:20,061
So this is their
pedestrian access So

1313
01:10:20,061 --> 01:10:24,321
when we look at the Puti zoning
the rezoning application itself

1314
01:10:24,321 --> 01:10:27,501
there are a number of components
that we do have to evaluate

1315
01:10:27,501 --> 01:10:30,411
for We look at the
density, the parking

1316
01:10:30,411 --> 01:10:34,161
requirements, the landscape
open space, utilities,

1317
01:10:34,161 --> 01:10:39,141
pedestrian bicycle circulation
all of those various components

1318
01:10:39,141 --> 01:10:42,921
So everyone is understanding
of what this process is.

1319
01:10:42,921 --> 01:10:46,281
This did go before the
Development Review Committee

1320
01:10:46,281 --> 01:10:48,891
They did evaluate
development review committee.

1321
01:10:48,891 --> 01:10:53,241
Everyone is made up of various
city departments as well as else

1322
01:10:53,241 --> 01:10:56,749
that does review
the for the traffic

1323
01:10:56,749 --> 01:10:59,782
that the Development Review
committee makes a determination

1324
01:10:59,782 --> 01:11:02,181
whether or not it has met the
code requirements in order

1325
01:11:02,181 --> 01:11:04,704
to take forward to the
Planning and zoning board,

1326
01:11:04,704 --> 01:11:05,571
Planning and zoning board.

1327
01:11:05,571 --> 01:11:07,971
Here is the application
and makes a recommendation

1328
01:11:07,971 --> 01:11:09,501
to the city Commission.

1329
01:11:09,501 --> 01:11:14,395
City Commission is you hear the
application and under section.

1330
01:11:14,395 --> 01:11:20,331
Oh 4, dash oh three of the
code, there is criterias

1331
01:11:20,331 --> 01:11:23,451
when it comes to,
again, how we review it

1332
01:11:23,451 --> 01:11:28,101
And the code also does address
how exceptions are considered

1333
01:11:28,101 --> 01:11:33,621
exceptions can also be referred
to as a variance application

1334
01:11:33,621 --> 01:11:36,231
variance would be for a
standard zoning district.

1335
01:11:36,231 --> 01:11:39,681
Exception is what it's called
when it comes to a planned unit

1336
01:11:39,681 --> 01:11:43,101
development Again, this
is going through all

1337
01:11:43,101 --> 01:11:47,151
the various components of what
that criteria is that we do

1338
01:11:47,151 --> 01:11:53,181
evaluate Now there are 14
exceptions that this project has

1339
01:11:53,181 --> 01:11:58,281
requested and what we did for
the presentation was that we

1340
01:11:58,281 --> 01:12:01,551
separated it out a little
bit differently, just

1341
01:12:01,551 --> 01:12:04,011
to keep all of the various
components together.

1342
01:12:04,011 --> 01:12:06,201
So what I'm going to do is
I'm going to go through what's

1343
01:12:06,201 --> 01:12:09,261
identified on the
slide versus how

1344
01:12:09,261 --> 01:12:11,631
the exceptions
are request stated

1345
01:12:11,631 --> 01:12:16,341
as part of the staff report.

1346
01:12:16,341 --> 01:12:20,511
So the drive aisle with within
residential garages that remains

1347
01:12:20,511 --> 01:12:22,401
exception one as
part of the staff

1348
01:12:22,401 --> 01:12:26,211
report the length of existing
standard parking spaces

1349
01:12:26,211 --> 01:12:31,135
remains exception to
three, four, five and 6.

1350
01:12:31,135 --> 01:12:33,591
All remain the same
as the staff report.

1351
01:12:33,591 --> 01:12:35,811
So those numbers are the same.

1352
01:12:35,811 --> 01:12:39,081
The dimensional required ment's
for the loading spaces that is

1353
01:12:39,081 --> 01:12:41,901
actually exception number ten.

1354
01:12:41,901 --> 01:12:43,461
The required number
of parking spaces

1355
01:12:43,461 --> 01:12:44,691
for the residential portion.

1356
01:12:44,691 --> 01:12:48,741
That is exception number nine,
the allowance on on street

1357
01:12:48,741 --> 01:12:52,731
parking loading spaces
is exception 11.

1358
01:12:52,731 --> 01:12:53,931
when it comes to
setbacks, there's

1359
01:12:53,931 --> 01:12:56,481
three setbacks that are
requested The building

1360
01:12:56,481 --> 01:12:58,671
setback to the
abutting single family

1361
01:12:58,671 --> 01:13:00,711
is exception number seven.

1362
01:13:00,711 --> 01:13:02,971
The setback from
steps to property line

1363
01:13:02,971 --> 01:13:05,571
is 8 and the landscape
landscape buffer

1364
01:13:05,571 --> 01:13:09,591
with is 12 for
signage there is one

1365
01:13:09,591 --> 01:13:13,971
exception request that was for
the residential portion there.

1366
01:13:13,971 --> 01:13:16,221
That's exception number 14.

1367
01:13:16,221 --> 01:13:20,391
And then the building height
that is exception number 13.

1368
01:13:20,391 --> 01:13:22,677
So when we look at all
of these exceptions

1369
01:13:22,677 --> 01:13:24,411
we have to take into
consideration that there's

1370
01:13:24,411 --> 01:13:26,601
are all based upon
when the application

1371
01:13:26,601 --> 01:13:28,491
was submitted to the city.

1372
01:13:28,491 --> 01:13:31,371
There has been a subsequent
ordinance that was adopted

1373
01:13:31,371 --> 01:13:34,011
by the city commission that
did take into consideration

1374
01:13:34,011 --> 01:13:37,911
the length of parking spaces So
we'll go through that analysis

1375
01:13:37,911 --> 01:13:42,651
at a further in a second here.

1376
01:13:42,651 --> 01:13:46,191
The allocation of flexibility
or redevelopment units.

1377
01:13:46,191 --> 01:13:49,311
So units on this property
is not buy, right?

1378
01:13:49,311 --> 01:13:52,281
So the Commission does
have to allocate the units.

1379
01:13:52,281 --> 01:13:56,391
This is where we currently stand
with the allocation of units

1380
01:13:56,391 --> 01:14:00,321
within the city for
this area Again,

1381
01:14:00,321 --> 01:14:03,561
you'll see on here that the
Wilma on the Drive project

1382
01:14:03,561 --> 01:14:07,371
is identified the 252.

1383
01:14:07,371 --> 01:14:09,261
What would happen again, is
we're going to come back.

1384
01:14:09,261 --> 01:14:10,821
We're going to rescind
that resolution

1385
01:14:10,821 --> 01:14:12,591
that goes back into the pool.

1386
01:14:12,591 --> 01:14:16,281
And then with the
allocation of the 89 units,

1387
01:14:16,281 --> 01:14:19,911
we would have a remaining
number of units within the area.

1388
01:14:19,911 --> 01:14:23,631
Again, this is not to
you'll see west of 952

1389
01:14:23,631 --> 01:14:27,771
units available The site plan.

1390
01:14:27,771 --> 01:14:31,611
This is an overview of what we
do review for the site plan site

1391
01:14:31,611 --> 01:14:34,761
plan review for PWD is
similar to any other site plan

1392
01:14:34,761 --> 01:14:38,031
that we do review for floodplain
regulation for prevention

1393
01:14:38,031 --> 01:14:42,981
regulation height loading and
all of those components of it.

1394
01:14:42,981 --> 01:14:45,021
Concurrency and
consistent See what

1395
01:14:45,021 --> 01:14:47,331
the city's comprehensive
plan as well as our level

1396
01:14:47,331 --> 01:14:53,811
of service standards
traffic So I know traffic

1397
01:14:53,811 --> 01:14:55,250
has been a concern.

1398
01:14:55,250 --> 01:14:59,361
There is one exit onto Northeast
Seventh Avenue with signage,

1399
01:14:59,361 --> 01:15:03,381
markings, curbs to discourage
right turn into the neighborhood

1400
01:15:03,381 --> 01:15:06,351
This is similar to how the
Wilma project was approved,

1401
01:15:06,351 --> 01:15:12,411
where it is, what we're hearing
everyone to make that left turn

1402
01:15:12,411 --> 01:15:15,376
There is a proposed speed table
on Northeast Seventh Avenue

1403
01:15:15,376 --> 01:15:18,171
that is pending approval
through the city's traffic

1404
01:15:18,171 --> 01:15:21,051
calming procedures.

1405
01:15:21,051 --> 01:15:23,991
We do anticipate it through the
traffic study documentation.

1406
01:15:23,991 --> 01:15:26,181
We do have our traffic
consultant here Should there

1407
01:15:26,181 --> 01:15:29,061
be specific questions
about the traffic study

1408
01:15:29,061 --> 01:15:33,771
that this project is anticipated
to generate less intense traffic

1409
01:15:33,771 --> 01:15:38,271
than existing developed
meant as well as the project

1410
01:15:38,271 --> 01:15:42,651
And again, we'll go through
the analysis of the parking

1411
01:15:42,651 --> 01:15:47,361
for commercial All it is
required to have a 112 parking

1412
01:15:47,361 --> 01:15:51,234
there, providing 156
for the residential

1413
01:15:51,234 --> 01:15:53,481
there required to have 134.

1414
01:15:53,481 --> 01:15:57,261
They are providing through
the exception process

1415
01:15:57,261 --> 01:16:02,811
by there is existing parking
of 221 standard on the property

1416
01:16:02,811 --> 01:16:03,795
and eight here.

1417
01:16:03,795 --> 01:16:06,675
And again, as part of
this whole process,

1418
01:16:06,675 --> 01:16:09,921
drainage is also been reviewed
all of the surface water

1419
01:16:09,921 --> 01:16:14,001
will be maintained on site via
underground drainage systems

1420
01:16:14,001 --> 01:16:16,791
and Broward County
will also be required

1421
01:16:16,791 --> 01:16:19,971
to review this application and
issue a surface water management

1422
01:16:19,971 --> 01:16:26,241
license for setbacks to go
over through them with you

1423
01:16:26,241 --> 01:16:29,091
commercial residential along
Northeast seventh Avenue

1424
01:16:29,091 --> 01:16:30,381
is ten feet.

1425
01:16:30,381 --> 01:16:34,071
Wilton Drive has a
five foot minimum.

1426
01:16:34,071 --> 01:16:37,761
The commercial on the
southwest side is ten.

1427
01:16:37,761 --> 01:16:40,071
The residential on
the southwest is ten.

1428
01:16:40,071 --> 01:16:42,711
Abutting in single
family is 35ft.

1429
01:16:42,711 --> 01:16:45,741
Again, that's at
a four story level

1430
01:16:45,741 --> 01:16:49,221
commercial on the Southeast ten
and residential on the southeast

1431
01:16:49,221 --> 01:16:50,991
is 35.

1432
01:16:50,991 --> 01:16:54,981
So when we look at the
requirement for the setbacks,

1433
01:16:54,981 --> 01:16:58,041
especially when it comes
to our single family homes,

1434
01:16:58,041 --> 01:17:00,651
the way the p, u, d
regulations state is,

1435
01:17:00,651 --> 01:17:03,261
it's 25ft or the
height of the building

1436
01:17:03,261 --> 01:17:06,831
the height of the building along
this area is 48ft, six inches.

1437
01:17:06,831 --> 01:17:09,321
And that's where that
required setback comes from.

1438
01:17:09,321 --> 01:17:11,050
Again, they've asked
for an exception

1439
01:17:11,050 --> 01:17:16,542
from there Planning and
zoning board did again,

1440
01:17:16,542 --> 01:17:17,849
make a recommendation
of approval

1441
01:17:17,849 --> 01:17:20,991
for the zoning for the
rezoning application,

1442
01:17:20,991 --> 01:17:24,681
as well as the site
plan application Mayor,

1443
01:17:24,681 --> 01:17:27,801
I do ask that all of the
documentation that is associated

1444
01:17:27,801 --> 01:17:29,721
with the back up
is included as part

1445
01:17:29,721 --> 01:17:34,161
of the record for this
evening Of course there were

1446
01:17:34,161 --> 01:17:36,591
additional conditions that the
Planning and Zoning Board did

1447
01:17:36,591 --> 01:17:41,391
ask to be added balcony
screening for the top flow units

1448
01:17:41,391 --> 01:17:45,321
ADA accessibility
between a and B wider

1449
01:17:45,321 --> 01:17:48,921
planters on the top floors
of the residential units

1450
01:17:48,921 --> 01:17:52,209
channelized Zation design for
that left turn on Northeast

1451
01:17:52,209 --> 01:17:55,001
Seventh Avenue crosswalks
on Wilton Drive.

1452
01:17:55,001 --> 01:17:59,811
If fdot would accept it that
would be paid by the applicant

1453
01:17:59,811 --> 01:18:01,601
and reasonable traffic
calming measures

1454
01:18:01,601 --> 01:18:04,521
on Northeast Seventh Avenue
as permissible by the city's

1455
01:18:04,521 --> 01:18:06,351
traffic calming measure.

1456
01:18:06,351 --> 01:18:09,621
Now you'll see there's another
part of this where I did not

1457
01:18:09,621 --> 01:18:12,171
identify initially before
I went into the additional

1458
01:18:12,171 --> 01:18:16,101
because I know the applicant
will also be discussing some

1459
01:18:16,101 --> 01:18:20,571
of the conditions of approval
that are code related that we

1460
01:18:20,571 --> 01:18:23,211
were not able to agree to.

1461
01:18:23,211 --> 01:18:25,761
And anybody efficacious to that.

1462
01:18:25,761 --> 01:18:28,371
But we did agree to
modifications to condition

1463
01:18:28,371 --> 01:18:34,911
number 1828 29 With regard
to timing and payments

1464
01:18:34,911 --> 01:18:38,001
And we will continue to
work with the developer

1465
01:18:38,001 --> 01:18:41,901
here on condition number 35.

1466
01:18:41,901 --> 01:18:43,642
So there are a number of
changes that the applicant

1467
01:18:43,642 --> 01:18:46,791
didn't make since the
planning and Zoning board.

1468
01:18:46,791 --> 01:18:52,041
There you can see them here some
of the staff report modification

1469
01:18:52,041 --> 01:18:55,191
We did change from issuance.

1470
01:18:55,191 --> 01:18:57,621
I'm sorry, from
completion to issuance

1471
01:18:57,621 --> 01:19:00,921
for conditions number six,
seven, eight, 11, 16, 17

1472
01:19:00,921 --> 01:19:02,361
18, 28 and 29.

1473
01:19:02,361 --> 01:19:04,401
That is reflected in
the backup material

1474
01:19:04,401 --> 01:19:06,831
that you have as
strikethrough and underline.

1475
01:19:06,831 --> 01:19:08,811
We had a duplication of
condition number nine,

1476
01:19:08,811 --> 01:19:10,131
so that was deleted.

1477
01:19:10,131 --> 01:19:13,131
We added renderings
to number 13 added

1478
01:19:13,131 --> 01:19:17,181
for certificate to 34 and 35.

1479
01:19:17,181 --> 01:19:20,181
We added conditions since
planning and zoning board

1480
01:19:20,181 --> 01:19:23,601
of Numbers 38 and 39 to
reflect water and wastewater

1481
01:19:23,601 --> 01:19:27,261
Capaci we add a number
40 to clarify completion

1482
01:19:27,261 --> 01:19:28,911
of green building points.

1483
01:19:28,911 --> 01:19:32,901
And there were some changes
to the actual staff reports

1484
01:19:32,901 --> 01:19:36,471
themselves when the applicant
went to Broward County,

1485
01:19:36,471 --> 01:19:38,721
they did require a
bus shelter to be

1486
01:19:38,721 --> 01:19:40,581
installed along Wilton Drive.

1487
01:19:40,581 --> 01:19:43,461
There were some on street
parking spaces there.

1488
01:19:43,461 --> 01:19:45,771
Those did have to
be removed in order

1489
01:19:45,771 --> 01:19:49,101
to accommodate what
Broward County had required

1490
01:19:49,101 --> 01:19:52,311
And then they added
additional landscaping

1491
01:19:52,311 --> 01:19:53,601
due to those wider planters.

1492
01:19:53,601 --> 01:19:56,271
So that changed
their landscape plan.

1493
01:19:56,271 --> 01:19:57,651
I'm not going to go
through all of this,

1494
01:19:57,651 --> 01:20:00,351
but you'll like but you'll
see here additional changes

1495
01:20:00,351 --> 01:20:03,991
that they did make again,
based upon the conversation,

1496
01:20:03,991 --> 01:20:07,221
the direction that the planning
and zoning board did provide

1497
01:20:07,221 --> 01:20:18,201
to this to the applicant So
i'm sorry there actually was

1498
01:20:18,201 --> 01:20:19,851
supposed to be another slide.

1499
01:20:19,851 --> 01:20:23,081
I apologize out for it.

1500
01:20:23,081 --> 01:20:25,911
And I apologize to the
public, what staff did do.

1501
01:20:25,911 --> 01:20:30,471
We also had an analysis when
it came to the actual parking

1502
01:20:30,471 --> 01:20:33,171
for this project.

1503
01:20:33,171 --> 01:20:35,551
So again, if we
can go over that.

1504
01:20:35,551 --> 01:20:39,321
And I apologize to the
public, so existing on site,

1505
01:20:39,321 --> 01:20:43,761
there's 221 standards basis,
as I had previous identified

1506
01:20:43,761 --> 01:20:46,251
once this development
does happen,

1507
01:20:46,251 --> 01:20:48,321
once we start to
see the demolition

1508
01:20:48,321 --> 01:20:51,111
and, you know, that's
that separation,

1509
01:20:51,111 --> 01:20:56,053
if you will 61 parking spaces
will remain on the property.

1510
01:20:56,053 --> 01:20:56,723
Again.

1511
01:20:56,723 --> 01:21:00,741
The residential is required
to have 134 parking spaces.

1512
01:21:00,741 --> 01:21:05,541
They are proposing 95 parking
spaces When we look at ADA,

1513
01:21:05,541 --> 01:21:08,901
those are in addition to
the standard parking spaces.

1514
01:21:08,901 --> 01:21:18,861
So 134 standard parking spaces
requires five ADA spaces Again,

1515
01:21:18,861 --> 01:21:22,521
their exception request
is for 95 standard spaces

1516
01:21:22,521 --> 01:21:24,831
with four handicap.

1517
01:21:24,831 --> 01:21:28,101
This is a reduction
of 39 parking spaces

1518
01:21:28,101 --> 01:21:31,101
The ADA is not
changing because again,

1519
01:21:31,101 --> 01:21:34,521
it's based upon the
number of standard spaces

1520
01:21:34,521 --> 01:21:36,501
The the analysis.

1521
01:21:36,501 --> 01:21:40,611
So everyone understands was
taken into consideration.

1522
01:21:40,611 --> 01:21:42,981
The proposed change
in calculation

1523
01:21:42,981 --> 01:21:46,131
for the mixed use
projects that would

1524
01:21:46,131 --> 01:21:50,931
reduce the number of parking
spaces of 1.5 per unit

1525
01:21:50,931 --> 01:21:53,871
to 1.25 per unit.

1526
01:21:53,871 --> 01:21:55,251
If that were to occur.

1527
01:21:55,251 --> 01:21:58,971
This project would
require 112 parking spaces

1528
01:21:58,971 --> 01:22:06,291
not 134 number of eta spaces
remains the same at five that

1529
01:22:06,291 --> 01:22:10,371
would reduce the exception
and that would have been

1530
01:22:10,371 --> 01:22:14,721
requested from 39 down to 79.

1531
01:22:14,721 --> 01:22:19,233
The golf cart that is proposed
There's seven golf cart spaces.

1532
01:22:19,233 --> 01:22:21,741
That's proposed as part of
the residential component

1533
01:22:21,741 --> 01:22:23,571
Those spaces are six by 12.

1534
01:22:23,571 --> 01:22:25,881
They do not meet
the requirements

1535
01:22:25,881 --> 01:22:28,726
for a compact parking
space which was approved

1536
01:22:28,726 --> 01:22:30,319
in ordinance number 2026.

1537
01:22:30,319 --> 01:22:32,001
DoorDash 013.

1538
01:22:32,001 --> 01:22:35,241
But it does meet the dimensional
requirements for a motorcycle

1539
01:22:35,241 --> 01:22:40,821
space, which can be no more
than 3% of the required spaces

1540
01:22:40,821 --> 01:22:44,601
So that's an additional
seven parking spaces

1541
01:22:44,601 --> 01:22:48,141
So if we were to
utilize those two

1542
01:22:48,141 --> 01:22:53,241
or enhances that, did
one adopt one proposed

1543
01:22:53,241 --> 01:22:55,491
changes to those
calculate options,

1544
01:22:55,491 --> 01:22:58,131
the reduction of the
number of parking spaces

1545
01:22:58,131 --> 01:23:02,241
would actually the exception
would go from 39 down to ten

1546
01:23:02,241 --> 01:23:04,671
and that they would be
asking for a reduction

1547
01:23:04,671 --> 01:23:10,791
from the commercial is
required to have 112 parking

1548
01:23:10,791 --> 01:23:14,571
space as they are
proposing, 156 specifically

1549
01:23:14,571 --> 01:23:16,401
for the commercial part.

1550
01:23:16,401 --> 01:23:18,501
They are not asking
for any exceptions

1551
01:23:18,501 --> 01:23:22,161
from the commercial They are
proposing three motorcycle

1552
01:23:22,161 --> 01:23:24,721
parking spaces in addition to.

1553
01:23:24,721 --> 01:23:28,161
So the commercial aspect
does have extra parking.

1554
01:23:28,161 --> 01:23:31,221
So when we look at
all of this overall

1555
01:23:31,221 --> 01:23:36,921
the total project required is
246 parking spaces with ten

1556
01:23:36,921 --> 01:23:40,701
handicap and total
parking being provided

1557
01:23:40,701 --> 01:23:44,661
is 251 parking
with ten handicap.

1558
01:23:44,661 --> 01:23:47,421
There is 21 on
street parking that

1559
01:23:47,421 --> 01:23:50,541
is being proposed along Wilton
Drive and seventh Avenue.

1560
01:23:50,541 --> 01:23:53,301
Those are not in those are
not taken into consideration

1561
01:23:53,301 --> 01:23:56,301
to the parking calculation
because those are in addition

1562
01:23:56,301 --> 01:23:58,491
to it's not part of that.

1563
01:23:58,491 --> 01:23:59,931
What's required.

1564
01:23:59,931 --> 01:24:04,461
So again, mayor commission
I apologize that the slide

1565
01:24:04,461 --> 01:24:06,441
is not available, bye.

1566
01:24:06,441 --> 01:24:10,491
Hope I was able to explain
additional in regarding

1567
01:24:10,491 --> 01:24:11,871
at least the parking.

1568
01:24:11,871 --> 01:24:12,381
Thank you.

1569
01:24:12,381 --> 01:24:17,001
Any questions from the
commission I have questions

1570
01:24:17,001 --> 01:24:20,871
Can we just clarify the 21
on street parking spaces

1571
01:24:20,871 --> 01:24:24,081
I know that the you
know, these plans

1572
01:24:24,081 --> 01:24:25,551
have changed several times.

1573
01:24:25,551 --> 01:24:29,181
And at one point, the way I saw
it was that the developer was

1574
01:24:29,181 --> 01:24:34,761
asking that those 21 spaces be
included or part of this project

1575
01:24:34,761 --> 01:24:38,091
And I just want to confirm
that that is not the case,

1576
01:24:38,091 --> 01:24:41,031
that the 21 on
street parking spaces

1577
01:24:41,031 --> 01:24:43,671
will remain public
parking spaces

1578
01:24:43,671 --> 01:24:46,614
and they'll continue
to be metered.

1579
01:24:46,614 --> 01:24:47,321
Correct.

1580
01:24:47,321 --> 01:24:48,027
OK.

1581
01:24:48,027 --> 01:24:53,781
So if I understand this parking
calculation, it's very confusing

1582
01:24:53,781 --> 01:24:58,131
but I guess in tonight's agenda
package was Article 30, where we

1583
01:24:58,131 --> 01:25:00,831
were looking to reduce the
number of parking spaces

1584
01:25:00,831 --> 01:25:03,711
and also the dimensions
giving credit for things

1585
01:25:03,711 --> 01:25:05,451
like motorcycle parking.

1586
01:25:05,451 --> 01:25:11,727
So while we start out with 14
exceptions, a lot of those,

1587
01:25:11,727 --> 01:25:15,441
or at least many of the
exceptions related to parking

1588
01:25:15,441 --> 01:25:18,201
either go away or
drastically reduced.

1589
01:25:18,201 --> 01:25:23,691
So while there's currently an
exception for the 39 parking

1590
01:25:23,691 --> 01:25:28,131
spaces if Article 30
modifications are adopted,

1591
01:25:28,131 --> 01:25:30,021
that would go down to ten.

1592
01:25:30,021 --> 01:25:31,551
The exception would be ten.

1593
01:25:31,551 --> 01:25:33,483
That's that's how I see this.

1594
01:25:33,483 --> 01:25:34,491
Is that right?

1595
01:25:34,491 --> 01:25:34,995
Correct.

1596
01:25:34,995 --> 01:25:35,499
OK.

1597
01:25:35,499 --> 01:25:42,831
OK I just for the record, when
I went through the staff report

1598
01:25:42,831 --> 01:25:49,221
on page 831, Exhibit A we talk
about PD development standards

1599
01:25:49,221 --> 01:25:53,481
and the very first line has that
the minimum lot size for p u D

1600
01:25:53,481 --> 01:25:59,077
is net acres and i know, we
changed that a couple of years

1601
01:25:59,077 --> 01:26:03,381
ago, reducing the p u d standard
from two acres to one acre.

1602
01:26:03,381 --> 01:26:06,111
So just for the
record again, it's

1603
01:26:06,111 --> 01:26:10,371
exhibit A of the staff
report on page 31

1604
01:26:10,371 --> 01:26:12,601
that the two acres should
be reduced to one acre.

1605
01:26:12,601 --> 01:26:13,101
Yeah.

1606
01:26:13,101 --> 01:26:15,441
And if I can clarify, that's
actually part of the p u d

1607
01:26:15,441 --> 01:26:20,031
document that will be
updated should the Commission

1608
01:26:20,031 --> 01:26:21,531
approve this project.

1609
01:26:21,531 --> 01:26:23,492
Okay OK.

1610
01:26:23,492 --> 01:26:24,140
Absolutely.

1611
01:26:24,140 --> 01:26:25,112
Thank you.

1612
01:26:25,112 --> 01:26:28,551
I I guess I just want
to understand when we go

1613
01:26:28,551 --> 01:26:31,161
to the bottom of your
parking schedule,

1614
01:26:31,161 --> 01:26:34,671
we talk about total parking
require for I guess,

1615
01:26:34,671 --> 01:26:39,411
the entire shops, the
five acre parcel is to 46

1616
01:26:39,411 --> 01:26:41,241
and total parking provide it.

1617
01:26:41,241 --> 01:26:43,191
It is to 51.

1618
01:26:43,191 --> 01:26:44,422
Correct Okay.

1619
01:26:44,422 --> 01:26:47,391
So there's actually five excess.

1620
01:26:47,391 --> 01:26:49,251
I think it's five.

1621
01:26:49,251 --> 01:26:55,311
You have five excess parking
spaces So why would there be

1622
01:26:55,311 --> 01:27:00,921
a i guess I'm trying to
understand the 39 parking

1623
01:27:00,921 --> 01:27:03,202
space exception Absolutely.

1624
01:27:03,202 --> 01:27:05,541
So when we evaluated
the project,

1625
01:27:05,541 --> 01:27:08,425
we wanted to ensure
that the residential had

1626
01:27:08,425 --> 01:27:11,001
sufficient parking
in order to meet

1627
01:27:11,001 --> 01:27:14,421
the demands that those property
owners or those unit owners

1628
01:27:14,421 --> 01:27:15,351
would have.

1629
01:27:15,351 --> 01:27:17,571
So the parking calculations
were solely based

1630
01:27:17,571 --> 01:27:20,541
upon the residential
component to make sure, again,

1631
01:27:20,541 --> 01:27:21,621
they were able to park it.

1632
01:27:21,621 --> 01:27:24,291
So that's how those
calculations come to play.

1633
01:27:24,291 --> 01:27:28,525
And then the commercial shall
were addressed to, again, make

1634
01:27:28,525 --> 01:27:31,341
sure that any of those
tenants and anyone

1635
01:27:31,341 --> 01:27:32,944
any of those customers,
those patrons

1636
01:27:32,944 --> 01:27:36,037
would also be able
to utilize the space.

1637
01:27:36,037 --> 01:27:39,681
OK I know that we have some
business owners from the shops

1638
01:27:39,681 --> 01:27:42,051
here tonight Can
you just explain

1639
01:27:42,051 --> 01:27:48,411
how parking during construction
will work for those businesses

1640
01:27:48,411 --> 01:27:51,201
and for their patrons, what
they're required and sorry.

1641
01:27:51,201 --> 01:27:51,771
Absolutely.

1642
01:27:51,771 --> 01:27:55,341
So I know So the project
be approved The applicant

1643
01:27:55,341 --> 01:27:57,801
and the city will have
further conversations,

1644
01:27:57,801 --> 01:28:01,674
but the idea is to have
that portion of the parking

1645
01:28:01,674 --> 01:28:06,201
that is within the
southern area the area

1646
01:28:06,201 --> 01:28:08,871
in front of the
alibi and hunters

1647
01:28:08,871 --> 01:28:11,121
to remain open
during construction.

1648
01:28:11,121 --> 01:28:13,131
Again all of this is
all the development

1649
01:28:13,131 --> 01:28:17,301
is impacted on the one
side of the property

1650
01:28:17,301 --> 01:28:22,161
where six Avenue would still
be able to be maintained

1651
01:28:22,161 --> 01:28:34,311
throughout construction We'll
go through detailed plans

1652
01:28:34,311 --> 01:28:37,551
once we get to
construction again.

1653
01:28:37,551 --> 01:28:39,771
If the project's
approved, we're we'll

1654
01:28:39,771 --> 01:28:43,371
be we'll have that Those
conversations with the developer

1655
01:28:43,371 --> 01:28:47,721
just to ensure that everyone
is fully aware There has been

1656
01:28:47,721 --> 01:28:50,211
conversations to see if
there's alternatives that

1657
01:28:50,211 --> 01:28:53,511
could be provided to some of the
patrons, to the business owners.

1658
01:28:53,511 --> 01:28:58,101
I would defer to the
applicant to go into detail.

1659
01:28:58,101 --> 01:29:02,181
Some of those were
Lyft, Uber circuit.

1660
01:29:02,181 --> 01:29:04,671
If there's additional
opportunities

1661
01:29:04,671 --> 01:29:10,425
for them to provide, you know, I
know we do voucher of that sort.

1662
01:29:10,425 --> 01:29:12,951
OK Commissioner, I think when
it gets to the applicant,

1663
01:29:12,951 --> 01:29:16,661
I have questions about that
too, that we can OK, sure, sure.

1664
01:29:16,661 --> 01:29:18,561
My, my, my last item.

1665
01:29:18,561 --> 01:29:20,753
I just want to talk for a
moment about the period.

1666
01:29:20,753 --> 01:29:24,201
So this is currently
arts and entertainment

1667
01:29:24,201 --> 01:29:26,301
zoning under article 30.

1668
01:29:26,301 --> 01:29:30,891
And we would be rezoning
to article 40, which really

1669
01:29:30,891 --> 01:29:32,301
conforms to the site plan.

1670
01:29:32,301 --> 01:29:39,351
That's my understanding I
mean is APD unique to our city

1671
01:29:39,351 --> 01:29:41,871
or do other cities have
planned unit developments

1672
01:29:41,871 --> 01:29:45,051
or similar code that
allow for rezoning

1673
01:29:45,051 --> 01:29:47,481
So these are not
unique to open manors.

1674
01:29:47,481 --> 01:29:49,251
There are a number of
other municipalities

1675
01:29:49,251 --> 01:29:55,641
that do have pudi, Doc,
Pudi zoning districts Okay.

1676
01:29:55,641 --> 01:29:57,621
And can you just
for everyone here

1677
01:29:57,621 --> 01:30:00,231
tonight can you just
explain the difference?

1678
01:30:00,231 --> 01:30:02,661
I know some people
call them variances

1679
01:30:02,661 --> 01:30:05,991
and variances really
don't apply to a PUD.

1680
01:30:05,991 --> 01:30:08,391
A variance would be, I
guess under Article 30

1681
01:30:08,391 --> 01:30:10,851
under Article 40, it
would be an exception

1682
01:30:10,851 --> 01:30:14,121
Can you just briefly explain the
difference between a variance

1683
01:30:14,121 --> 01:30:15,681
and exception under the code?

1684
01:30:15,681 --> 01:30:16,191
Absolutely.

1685
01:30:16,191 --> 01:30:19,191
So an exception
under Article 40 is

1686
01:30:19,191 --> 01:30:22,161
based upon the
specific regulation

1687
01:30:22,161 --> 01:30:25,911
and the Puti document is
authorized and approved

1688
01:30:25,911 --> 01:30:31,101
by the City Commission So it
is specific to that project

1689
01:30:31,101 --> 01:30:35,871
where a variance, although it's
still a case by case situation,

1690
01:30:35,871 --> 01:30:40,461
it has different criteria area
that's required to be justified

1691
01:30:40,461 --> 01:30:42,441
as you go through those.

1692
01:30:42,441 --> 01:30:46,281
Another difference is variances
are approved by planning

1693
01:30:46,281 --> 01:30:51,471
and zoning board exceptions are
only through the city commission

1694
01:30:51,471 --> 01:30:53,901
and they do become
part of the governing

1695
01:30:53,901 --> 01:30:56,061
document for that development.

1696
01:30:56,061 --> 01:30:58,881
So any changes to
that development

1697
01:30:58,881 --> 01:31:01,341
I would have to go
back through again,

1698
01:31:01,341 --> 01:31:04,191
depending upon the nature of
what that change would be,

1699
01:31:04,191 --> 01:31:05,931
it could have to come
back through the city

1700
01:31:05,931 --> 01:31:06,771
commission process.

1701
01:31:06,771 --> 01:31:09,231
And my understanding is
that a variance would

1702
01:31:09,231 --> 01:31:12,724
require a hardship or an
exception And would not

1703
01:31:12,724 --> 01:31:13,701
the it's different.

1704
01:31:13,701 --> 01:31:15,261
It's different degrees of.

1705
01:31:15,261 --> 01:31:19,011
But a hardship is again,
the criteria for variances

1706
01:31:19,011 --> 01:31:19,641
very clear.

1707
01:31:19,641 --> 01:31:24,624
They have three set criteria
to meet for a variance Okay.

1708
01:31:24,624 --> 01:31:28,457
Thank you Paul.

1709
01:31:28,457 --> 01:31:33,051
Your Honor to go
on to your Honor's.

1710
01:31:33,051 --> 01:31:34,101
So, all right.

1711
01:31:34,101 --> 01:31:36,211
So thank you for
this break down.

1712
01:31:36,211 --> 01:31:38,477
It's a little confusing,
but it is actually very

1713
01:31:38,477 --> 01:31:39,921
helpful once you follow it.

1714
01:31:39,921 --> 01:31:42,471
I appreciate the clarification
that the that based

1715
01:31:42,471 --> 01:31:45,351
on the changes that we've
been discussing in the code,

1716
01:31:45,351 --> 01:31:50,331
the reduction went from 39
to 10 And I and I agree.

1717
01:31:50,331 --> 01:31:52,390
You know, residents said
earlier, like, you know,

1718
01:31:52,390 --> 01:31:54,755
they should be able to count
on the code to be what you know

1719
01:31:54,755 --> 01:31:56,655
what they expect and that if
we have a problem with that,

1720
01:31:56,655 --> 01:31:57,388
we should change that.

1721
01:31:57,388 --> 01:31:59,854
So, you know, we're changing the
code where it's not consistent

1722
01:31:59,854 --> 01:32:04,221
and it's not what we expect And
I know that that code is not

1723
01:32:04,221 --> 01:32:08,391
yet finalized but this is like a
great example of how I certainly

1724
01:32:08,391 --> 01:32:10,671
don't know everything but I had
not considered just golf cart

1725
01:32:10,671 --> 01:32:13,048
parking as a type of
parking, you know,

1726
01:32:13,048 --> 01:32:15,321
obviously, those spaces will
fit the dimensions You know what

1727
01:32:15,321 --> 01:32:18,171
we're doing for the motorcycle
will absolutely work for a golf

1728
01:32:18,171 --> 01:32:19,941
cart, you know, And
so we shouldn't have

1729
01:32:19,941 --> 01:32:22,791
to force it into compact So, you
know, personally in seeing this,

1730
01:32:22,791 --> 01:32:25,311
I hope that's something we go
back to and revisit in our code

1731
01:32:25,311 --> 01:32:27,967
is to reflect that because I'm
personally getting rid of my car

1732
01:32:27,967 --> 01:32:28,600
at some point soon.

1733
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:29,625
And going to a golf cart.

1734
01:32:29,625 --> 01:32:32,901
So it's not just parking
for me Well, I'll be

1735
01:32:32,901 --> 01:32:34,641
happier when I'm off the road.

1736
01:32:34,641 --> 01:32:36,171
So the other thing
to you on here

1737
01:32:36,171 --> 01:32:39,621
is I want to acknowledge
that the commercial,

1738
01:32:39,621 --> 01:32:42,225
they're only required
to build 112 spaces.

1739
01:32:42,225 --> 01:32:43,929
There proposing 156.

1740
01:32:43,929 --> 01:32:46,452
You know One thing
that we have learned

1741
01:32:46,452 --> 01:32:49,341
from from our conversations with
developers and with people that

1742
01:32:49,341 --> 01:32:52,011
finance it a property
can't get financing

1743
01:32:52,011 --> 01:32:53,864
if things like the
parking don't make sense.

1744
01:32:53,864 --> 01:32:55,597
You know they're not going
to provide the financing,

1745
01:32:55,597 --> 01:32:57,471
because the project won't work.

1746
01:32:57,471 --> 01:32:59,601
I think it shows
us something here

1747
01:32:59,601 --> 01:33:03,261
that there there over planning
how much for commercial?

1748
01:33:03,261 --> 01:33:05,571
Because I think that they know
that that's what they have to do

1749
01:33:05,571 --> 01:33:08,451
in order for this project
to work and make sense

1750
01:33:08,451 --> 01:33:10,821
And I think that they're
planning, in my opinion,

1751
01:33:10,821 --> 01:33:12,471
on residential is
very accurate for,

1752
01:33:12,471 --> 01:33:14,811
for what the requirements
of that community

1753
01:33:14,811 --> 01:33:16,341
are of, of a community
of that size.

1754
01:33:16,341 --> 01:33:19,191
It's only 89 units or
something like that, right So

1755
01:33:19,191 --> 01:33:23,271
that makes sense to me.

1756
01:33:23,271 --> 01:33:26,091
But ultimately that's pending
if we approve all the changes

1757
01:33:26,091 --> 01:33:27,861
that we've discussed so
far, that's the difference

1758
01:33:27,861 --> 01:33:29,271
on the ten and 39.

1759
01:33:29,271 --> 01:33:31,551
And as far as going back to my
last thing is on the traffic,

1760
01:33:31,551 --> 01:33:33,561
I know they'll be
further discussions.

1761
01:33:33,561 --> 01:33:36,561
Do we need as a city have to
approve their like do they have

1762
01:33:36,561 --> 01:33:38,961
to get an approved
parking management plan

1763
01:33:38,961 --> 01:33:42,141
or if we approve this, they're
basically have no obligation

1764
01:33:42,141 --> 01:33:44,102
for us to agree with
how they handle parking

1765
01:33:44,102 --> 01:33:47,781
during the interim, you know,
for the existing you know,

1766
01:33:47,781 --> 01:33:50,361
I mean no matter what, we're
still going to have to deal

1767
01:33:50,361 --> 01:33:53,751
with the parking we deal with
out for any development that

1768
01:33:53,751 --> 01:33:55,191
occurs.

1769
01:33:55,191 --> 01:33:58,791
So i've had conversations
with the applicant already,

1770
01:33:58,791 --> 01:34:01,761
so they have been placed on
notice that this is something

1771
01:34:01,761 --> 01:34:06,321
that does have to be
definitively determined

1772
01:34:06,321 --> 01:34:10,971
The most important is to make
sure that our businesses are not

1773
01:34:10,971 --> 01:34:12,051
in our.

1774
01:34:12,051 --> 01:34:16,971
Let me rephrase that are as
least impacted as possible.

1775
01:34:16,971 --> 01:34:18,801
We know that there's
going to be impacts.

1776
01:34:18,801 --> 01:34:20,721
That's just the
nature of development.

1777
01:34:20,721 --> 01:34:23,991
But we want to try to reduce
that as best as we can.

1778
01:34:23,991 --> 01:34:26,250
So I'm hearing that we
need the opportunity for us

1779
01:34:26,250 --> 01:34:29,038
to have them come to
an agreement on how

1780
01:34:29,038 --> 01:34:29,871
we're going to handle it.

1781
01:34:29,871 --> 01:34:33,965
It's not just purely their
choice, correct That's great.

1782
01:34:33,965 --> 01:34:36,621
I the other thing that just to
go back to something your slide

1783
01:34:36,621 --> 01:34:40,158
earlier, I just want to confirm
One of the most important things

1784
01:34:40,158 --> 01:34:42,291
for me about the last
project was the covenant

1785
01:34:42,291 --> 01:34:48,021
that related to the restrictions
on the parcels and frankly that

1786
01:34:48,021 --> 01:34:50,511
protected the commercial
buildings that were there

1787
01:34:50,511 --> 01:34:53,721
in the way that that covenant
was without a doubt, one

1788
01:34:53,721 --> 01:34:57,021
of the best things for the
city and for the tenants that

1789
01:34:57,021 --> 01:34:58,701
are there and for our future.

1790
01:34:58,701 --> 01:35:01,671
I know we have to repeal this
is is that covenant going

1791
01:35:01,671 --> 01:35:05,631
to come back with the in
the set of resolutions

1792
01:35:05,631 --> 01:35:06,481
that it brings back?

1793
01:35:06,481 --> 01:35:06,981
Yes.

1794
01:35:06,981 --> 01:35:13,191
So so there'll be we'll
have all of the releases.

1795
01:35:13,191 --> 01:35:15,201
There'll be a developers
agreement declaration

1796
01:35:15,201 --> 01:35:16,761
of restrictive covenants.

1797
01:35:16,761 --> 01:35:18,231
There'll be the
allocation of units.

1798
01:35:18,231 --> 01:35:20,301
So all of that is
going to be part

1799
01:35:20,301 --> 01:35:24,561
of those resolutions that will
be finalized on this project.

1800
01:35:24,561 --> 01:35:27,541
Again, should the
Commission approve it.

1801
01:35:27,541 --> 01:35:28,941
And I'm going to restate
what I understood

1802
01:35:28,941 --> 01:35:30,757
the covenant to
be just make sure

1803
01:35:30,757 --> 01:35:32,808
that I have the
understanding right.

1804
01:35:32,808 --> 01:35:35,481
That was multiple that
was multiple parcels.

1805
01:35:35,481 --> 01:35:38,151
Ultimately And what we said
is by agreeing to allow you

1806
01:35:38,151 --> 01:35:40,881
to develop this, you can't
split up the commercial

1807
01:35:40,881 --> 01:35:43,401
and residential and then
somebody go and tear down

1808
01:35:43,401 --> 01:35:45,321
the commercial and build
residential because we're

1809
01:35:45,321 --> 01:35:47,441
sort of allocating the
residential over here

1810
01:35:47,441 --> 01:35:50,001
is that so the
allocation of units

1811
01:35:50,001 --> 01:35:53,271
is being addressed as
part of the documentation

1812
01:35:53,271 --> 01:35:57,921
where it's based upon
the overall property.

1813
01:35:57,921 --> 01:36:00,351
And that's the ultimate
number of units that

1814
01:36:00,351 --> 01:36:02,421
would be able to be allocated.

1815
01:36:02,421 --> 01:36:05,862
So we're not going to say, okay,
you know, you can have 89 here.

1816
01:36:05,862 --> 01:36:09,231
And then, oh, here's
another 300 that you want

1817
01:36:09,231 --> 01:36:12,321
to try to get No, it's based
upon that overall parcel

1818
01:36:12,321 --> 01:36:14,601
and that will all be
identified in those documents

1819
01:36:14,601 --> 01:36:16,851
that we'll see at a later
point with the great.

1820
01:36:16,851 --> 01:36:18,851
Thank you all.

1821
01:36:18,851 --> 01:36:21,505
I had, first of
all, I apologize.

1822
01:36:21,505 --> 01:36:22,311
I had to leave.

1823
01:36:22,311 --> 01:36:24,111
I have an emergency at home.

1824
01:36:24,111 --> 01:36:28,131
But i had extensive
discussions this morning

1825
01:36:28,131 --> 01:36:32,061
with the director and the
city manager on the parking

1826
01:36:32,061 --> 01:36:34,221
and on the exceptions.

1827
01:36:34,221 --> 01:36:37,099
So i pretty much am in
agreement with everything.

1828
01:36:37,099 --> 01:36:38,991
And I appreciate
all the comments

1829
01:36:38,991 --> 01:36:41,181
that Commissioner
Darmanin brought up,

1830
01:36:41,181 --> 01:36:43,491
as well as Vice Mayor Caputo.

1831
01:36:43,491 --> 01:36:48,171
So I'm good on the stuff
we're talking about now.

1832
01:36:48,171 --> 01:36:49,281
Thank you.

1833
01:36:49,281 --> 01:36:50,062
Good Thank you.

1834
01:36:50,062 --> 01:36:53,189
So I'm just going to ask a few
questions about the parking.

1835
01:36:53,189 --> 01:36:54,519
And then I'll reserve
my other comments

1836
01:36:54,519 --> 01:36:56,031
until after the
applicants speaks.

1837
01:36:56,031 --> 01:36:58,071
So just going on
to a commissioner

1838
01:36:58,071 --> 01:37:02,511
Caputo was saying just to help
me understand that everybody

1839
01:37:02,511 --> 01:37:04,791
understand about the
restrictive covenant

1840
01:37:04,791 --> 01:37:07,401
where we're rescind
thing or repealing

1841
01:37:07,401 --> 01:37:09,111
all the other covenants
that have been put in place

1842
01:37:09,111 --> 01:37:09,978
with the previous project.

1843
01:37:09,978 --> 01:37:11,541
Everything related to
the previous project.

1844
01:37:11,541 --> 01:37:15,369
We're going to reset for this
project going forward just to be

1845
01:37:15,369 --> 01:37:19,491
clear, after they build this
site are they still able to then

1846
01:37:19,491 --> 01:37:20,917
build on the other half?

1847
01:37:20,917 --> 01:37:23,130
I guess that's ultimately,
that's what the questions out.

1848
01:37:23,130 --> 01:37:24,531
My side you mean correct?

1849
01:37:24,531 --> 01:37:29,393
They could, yes And the entire
and there are a number of units

1850
01:37:29,393 --> 01:37:32,061
they'll be permitted would
be whatever they're allowed

1851
01:37:32,061 --> 01:37:34,731
under the density six
units per acre minus

1852
01:37:34,731 --> 01:37:36,269
whatever they're using here.

1853
01:37:36,269 --> 01:37:37,857
Correct OK.

1854
01:37:37,857 --> 01:37:39,951
So there's going to be no
restrictive covenant in place

1855
01:37:39,951 --> 01:37:41,485
going forward that
they cannot build

1856
01:37:41,485 --> 01:37:44,776
on the other side just to
be clear on the alibi's that

1857
01:37:44,776 --> 01:37:45,951
correct Okay.

1858
01:37:45,951 --> 01:37:49,491
Because it's limited version
of based upon square footage.

1859
01:37:49,491 --> 01:37:51,681
But yes, I'm sorry,
but there's no

1860
01:37:51,681 --> 01:37:55,791
going to be no restrictive
covenant for approval of the PUD

1861
01:37:55,791 --> 01:37:59,721
that they can not build other
units on the other side.

1862
01:37:59,721 --> 01:38:00,411
Correct.

1863
01:38:00,411 --> 01:38:02,271
A part of that are
there's because they

1864
01:38:02,271 --> 01:38:04,317
took 252 units
before river grass,

1865
01:38:04,317 --> 01:38:06,459
which took it from that part.

1866
01:38:06,459 --> 01:38:08,392
And now we're taking we're
sending all them back

1867
01:38:08,392 --> 01:38:09,291
and like taking 89.

1868
01:38:09,291 --> 01:38:12,849
So there's more But
for approval of a paved

1869
01:38:12,849 --> 01:38:14,211
they need the
commission approval

1870
01:38:14,211 --> 01:38:17,421
if we want to add some type
of restrictive covenant,

1871
01:38:17,421 --> 01:38:18,561
we're entitled to ask for it.

1872
01:38:18,561 --> 01:38:21,122
And they can either say
no or we can say no.

1873
01:38:21,122 --> 01:38:21,622
Right?

1874
01:38:21,622 --> 01:38:23,592
Ultimately, that's
what a p D is.

1875
01:38:23,592 --> 01:38:28,881
OK And in terms of the number
of parking spots, also confused.

1876
01:38:28,881 --> 01:38:29,704
Appreciate it.

1877
01:38:29,704 --> 01:38:33,481
At least I'm not the
only one It's confused.

1878
01:38:33,481 --> 01:38:33,981
Yeah.

1879
01:38:33,981 --> 01:38:34,881
So the total.

1880
01:38:34,881 --> 01:38:36,561
Let's just go to
the total numbers.

1881
01:38:36,561 --> 01:38:37,911
It's easiest one to understand.

1882
01:38:37,911 --> 01:38:41,301
Total required parking to 46.

1883
01:38:41,301 --> 01:38:44,721
Is that based on
the proposed change?

1884
01:38:44,721 --> 01:38:48,595
As to the ordinances that
have not yet been passed ?

1885
01:38:48,595 --> 01:38:49,095
Yes.

1886
01:38:49,095 --> 01:38:50,831
At the beginning
when you started,

1887
01:38:50,831 --> 01:38:52,551
you said when the
rules that apply

1888
01:38:52,551 --> 01:38:55,796
or when the applicant
submits their application

1889
01:38:55,796 --> 01:38:56,726
Let me stop right there.

1890
01:38:56,726 --> 01:38:57,346
And you answer.

1891
01:38:57,346 --> 01:39:01,371
So when we look at the number
of required parking spaces

1892
01:39:01,371 --> 01:39:02,961
and I'm going to
touch specifically

1893
01:39:02,961 --> 01:39:07,251
on the commercial first, we
looked at what is existing out

1894
01:39:07,251 --> 01:39:10,041
there, what those businesses
are out there what the uses

1895
01:39:10,041 --> 01:39:12,681
and what the current
parking requirements are.

1896
01:39:12,681 --> 01:39:14,541
And then we take
the new building

1897
01:39:14,541 --> 01:39:18,471
and we parked that at
the worst case scenario.

1898
01:39:18,471 --> 01:39:20,781
So that's where we
come up with the 112

1899
01:39:20,781 --> 01:39:23,421
parking spaces that's required.

1900
01:39:23,421 --> 01:39:24,921
What's the worst case scenario?

1901
01:39:24,921 --> 01:39:27,241
It's one per 300ft².

1902
01:39:27,241 --> 01:39:27,741
Gotcha.

1903
01:39:27,741 --> 01:39:29,854
So that's our
commercial, correct?

1904
01:39:29,854 --> 01:39:30,509
OK.

1905
01:39:30,509 --> 01:39:32,391
Separate from the 1.5.

1906
01:39:32,391 --> 01:39:33,231
1.25.

1907
01:39:33,231 --> 01:39:34,662
That's all residential, Correct.

1908
01:39:34,662 --> 01:39:37,371
OK just to make sure
we separate that out

1909
01:39:37,371 --> 01:39:40,544
So the 246 is inclusive
of both the commercial

1910
01:39:40,544 --> 01:39:41,211
and the residential.

1911
01:39:41,211 --> 01:39:42,081
Correct.

1912
01:39:42,081 --> 01:39:45,381
The residents So portion,
it's based on the proposed

1913
01:39:45,381 --> 01:39:47,451
ordinances on the 1.25.

1914
01:39:47,451 --> 01:39:50,361
What is what is the
documentation that you

1915
01:39:50,361 --> 01:39:52,281
have before you
is actually based

1916
01:39:52,281 --> 01:39:55,371
upon the existing code of 1.5.

1917
01:39:55,371 --> 01:40:00,621
So this this document this
stuff that we provided,

1918
01:40:00,621 --> 01:40:03,411
what's in the backup is 1.5.

1919
01:40:03,411 --> 01:40:06,291
When you guys i did the
extra analysis Okay.

1920
01:40:06,291 --> 01:40:07,911
So it's based on this.

1921
01:40:07,911 --> 01:40:13,671
So if the revised if the
proposed the ordinance passes

1922
01:40:13,671 --> 01:40:15,981
this number would even be lower.

1923
01:40:15,981 --> 01:40:17,991
Correct ?

1924
01:40:17,991 --> 01:40:19,011
No.

1925
01:40:19,011 --> 01:40:20,031
OK.

1926
01:40:20,031 --> 01:40:21,541
So the number.

1927
01:40:21,541 --> 01:40:22,041
Yes.

1928
01:40:22,041 --> 01:40:24,681
And they're saying no So
I guess different shaking

1929
01:40:24,681 --> 01:40:25,671
heads behind you.

1930
01:40:25,671 --> 01:40:26,421
No, no, no.

1931
01:40:26,421 --> 01:40:29,151
I'm confused Question
was, are these parking?

1932
01:40:29,151 --> 01:40:30,831
I'm confused.

1933
01:40:30,831 --> 01:40:33,329
So the last two, if we
talk about the larger.

1934
01:40:33,329 --> 01:40:37,461
Thank you, be the last two
lines specific to 46 and two.

1935
01:40:37,461 --> 01:40:40,008
So when we look at
what is required

1936
01:40:40,008 --> 01:40:43,891
we are looking at
134 parking spaces

1937
01:40:43,891 --> 01:40:45,981
as is required for residential.

1938
01:40:45,981 --> 01:40:48,381
And we're looking at
112 parking spaces.

1939
01:40:48,381 --> 01:40:50,037
That's required for commercial.

1940
01:40:50,037 --> 01:40:50,613
Right.

1941
01:40:50,613 --> 01:40:53,327
OK That's your 246.

1942
01:40:53,327 --> 01:40:53,974
OK.

1943
01:40:53,974 --> 01:40:57,501
The excess options that
are being requested

1944
01:40:57,501 --> 01:41:01,101
is for the residential
component right?

1945
01:41:01,101 --> 01:41:01,761
Okay.

1946
01:41:01,761 --> 01:41:04,551
And that's where we start to
look at the ordinance that

1947
01:41:04,551 --> 01:41:05,751
was adopted.

1948
01:41:05,751 --> 01:41:10,281
And as well as the ordinance
that's proposed the adoption

1949
01:41:10,281 --> 01:41:14,361
being the use of alternative
types of parking spaces

1950
01:41:14,361 --> 01:41:17,721
like the golf cart parking
space is not counted.

1951
01:41:17,721 --> 01:41:21,782
And there 95 spaces,
that's additional.

1952
01:41:21,782 --> 01:41:22,282
Okay.

1953
01:41:22,282 --> 01:41:25,011
So if you want to
look at 95 plus seven,

1954
01:41:25,011 --> 01:41:31,341
they actually were proposing
a 102 parking spaces.

1955
01:41:31,341 --> 01:41:34,431
But again, because the golf
cart didn't meet the code

1956
01:41:34,431 --> 01:41:36,891
requirements of a
parking space, that's

1957
01:41:36,891 --> 01:41:39,741
why we didn't count those
as part of the proposed

1958
01:41:39,741 --> 01:41:41,391
number of spaces.

1959
01:41:41,391 --> 01:41:50,301
So the 134 required residential
is that based on the 1.2, 5.1.5?

1960
01:41:50,301 --> 01:41:54,621
Okay So if we were to
change our code to 1.25,

1961
01:41:54,621 --> 01:41:58,741
there requirement would
be less 112 would be 1/12.

1962
01:41:58,741 --> 01:41:59,241
Okay.

1963
01:41:59,241 --> 01:42:00,681
And then that's
where we get that.

1964
01:42:00,681 --> 01:42:04,401
But your total number at the
bottom is the 134 residential.

1965
01:42:04,401 --> 01:42:05,241
Correct.

1966
01:42:05,241 --> 01:42:08,901
So the required amount if
and when the ordinance passes

1967
01:42:08,901 --> 01:42:11,011
would be significantly
or nothing.

1968
01:42:11,011 --> 01:42:11,511
Okay.

1969
01:42:11,511 --> 01:42:15,569
20 2017 spaces 17
I can't do math.

1970
01:42:15,569 --> 01:42:21,619
OK, but one 1222 the
2134 Yeah, minus 12 okay.

1971
01:42:21,619 --> 01:42:24,531
But I got it OK.

1972
01:42:24,531 --> 01:42:27,951
So I think I'm
fine with parking.

1973
01:42:27,951 --> 01:42:28,552
One other thing.

1974
01:42:28,552 --> 01:42:30,681
Just related to
the parking garage

1975
01:42:30,681 --> 01:42:31,821
I don't know if
you can answer it

1976
01:42:31,821 --> 01:42:36,355
or maybe the traffic person
we talk about channelized

1977
01:42:36,355 --> 01:42:39,150
and I understand
that's a curve, right?

1978
01:42:39,150 --> 01:42:42,171
Can you just explain to
everyone but the translation is

1979
01:42:42,171 --> 01:42:45,201
and unless you want to
do some from the traffic,

1980
01:42:45,201 --> 01:42:50,631
I'm going to call up recap
only into is that going to only

1981
01:42:50,631 --> 01:42:54,147
be in or is that both in
and out Please your name,

1982
01:42:54,147 --> 01:42:55,761
state your name.

1983
01:42:55,761 --> 01:42:57,389
Good evening, Council Eric.

1984
01:42:57,389 --> 01:43:03,201
Yeah with Kimberly Hahn Offset
e201 Peters Road getting me

1985
01:43:03,201 --> 01:43:07,971
so you asked about the channel
for the driveway So this avenue.

1986
01:43:07,971 --> 01:43:08,571
Yes.

1987
01:43:08,571 --> 01:43:09,501
So seventh Avenue.

1988
01:43:09,501 --> 01:43:13,641
There's one proposed full
ingress and egress driveway

1989
01:43:13,641 --> 01:43:16,581
and one ingress only
driveway to the south,

1990
01:43:16,581 --> 01:43:17,541
the northern driveway.

1991
01:43:17,541 --> 01:43:19,101
That's where we're
going to have that.

1992
01:43:19,101 --> 01:43:23,091
The project is going to have
the left only restriction

1993
01:43:23,091 --> 01:43:27,891
And the curb on the south
side of that driveway will

1994
01:43:27,891 --> 01:43:30,981
it'll extend out into
the street and conflict

1995
01:43:30,981 --> 01:43:32,961
with any vehicle that's
trying to make a right turn.

1996
01:43:32,961 --> 01:43:36,021
Only they'll still be
able to make the left out

1997
01:43:36,021 --> 01:43:38,982
and the entering traffic could
from the residential side.

1998
01:43:38,982 --> 01:43:41,901
Make a left in I believe, right?

1999
01:43:41,901 --> 01:43:44,751
Yeah and make that
southbound right.

2000
01:43:44,751 --> 01:43:51,771
Turn it into the site and is
that a best practice or anything

2001
01:43:51,771 --> 01:43:56,061
to enhance that because
there are other complexes

2002
01:43:56,061 --> 01:44:00,531
i live in one that has one
of those and people are just

2003
01:44:00,531 --> 01:44:04,221
are impatient and they have no
desire to drive around the block

2004
01:44:04,221 --> 01:44:07,761
and they're constant only
making the illegal turns.

2005
01:44:07,761 --> 01:44:11,181
And both in and out they
do super wide turns.

2006
01:44:11,181 --> 01:44:13,577
Whatever they can figure
out how to get out.

2007
01:44:13,577 --> 01:44:14,994
They drive over the curb.

2008
01:44:14,994 --> 01:44:17,241
I'm not sure it solves the
problem that we're trying

2009
01:44:17,241 --> 01:44:19,131
to solve or if there
are other tools

2010
01:44:19,131 --> 01:44:22,346
to help solve for that
problem of stopping

2011
01:44:22,346 --> 01:44:24,021
the traffic from
going southbound

2012
01:44:24,021 --> 01:44:25,761
down sort of avenue there.

2013
01:44:25,761 --> 01:44:27,441
There definitely are
more extreme measures

2014
01:44:27,441 --> 01:44:29,751
We've seen rebounder
bulls and Miami Beach,

2015
01:44:29,751 --> 01:44:33,125
they deployed rebounder
doubled like delineated

2016
01:44:33,125 --> 01:44:34,521
along the center right.

2017
01:44:34,521 --> 01:44:37,911
That's why I was going to
say I'll that can physically

2018
01:44:37,911 --> 01:44:42,921
restrict anywhere from turning
in the previous application they

2019
01:44:42,921 --> 01:44:45,261
had proposed these
restrictions again,

2020
01:44:45,261 --> 01:44:48,231
just to provide that curb
extension to physically

2021
01:44:48,231 --> 01:44:51,891
present prevent as well as the
turn like the right turn only

2022
01:44:51,891 --> 01:44:56,691
sign the Led signs to, you
know, visually restrict

2023
01:44:56,691 --> 01:45:01,316
it the like massive
restrictions That's I guess,

2024
01:45:01,316 --> 01:45:02,770
the standard practice
would be that.

2025
01:45:02,770 --> 01:45:03,270
Yeah.

2026
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:08,031
And the concern also with the
providing the those elevators

2027
01:45:08,031 --> 01:45:11,871
within the Marina would be that
the vehicles that maybe would

2028
01:45:11,871 --> 01:45:14,512
want to come to the site
from the residential portion,

2029
01:45:14,512 --> 01:45:18,081
they'll have to circulate
around and additional traffic

2030
01:45:18,081 --> 01:45:22,431
on Walton Drive So you know,
there's pros and cons for it.

2031
01:45:22,431 --> 01:45:24,951
The treatment that the applicant
is proposing at this time

2032
01:45:24,951 --> 01:45:26,331
is consistent with
the other one.

2033
01:45:26,331 --> 01:45:28,277
And we were satisfied with that.

2034
01:45:28,277 --> 01:45:29,145
Thank you.

2035
01:45:29,145 --> 01:45:30,321
Thanks.

2036
01:45:30,321 --> 01:45:37,359
In the US and those are
from parking questions OK.

2037
01:45:37,359 --> 01:45:39,501
I'll make one request
and sure can this be

2038
01:45:39,501 --> 01:45:40,611
made available to the public?

2039
01:45:40,611 --> 01:45:41,841
The sheet that we
were looking at?

2040
01:45:41,841 --> 01:45:42,030
Yeah.

2041
01:45:42,030 --> 01:45:43,416
They're going to put out
They're going to put on.

2042
01:45:43,416 --> 01:45:44,841
Are we sure that they
have access to it?

2043
01:45:44,841 --> 01:45:47,031
Yeah, I think it's in
the agenda packet now.

2044
01:45:47,031 --> 01:45:48,621
This one was not about
this one was only

2045
01:45:48,621 --> 01:45:50,168
when there was no mayor.

2046
01:45:50,168 --> 01:45:51,201
If I can actually address that.

2047
01:45:51,201 --> 01:45:53,751
What we can do is we
can add it to the page

2048
01:45:53,751 --> 01:45:55,491
that we have for
development applications

2049
01:45:55,491 --> 01:45:56,854
on the city's web page.

2050
01:45:56,854 --> 01:45:59,271
OK Now that'll work.

2051
01:45:59,271 --> 01:46:00,051
Thank you very much.

2052
01:46:00,051 --> 01:46:04,521
I think he was very
complete on our half

2053
01:46:04,521 --> 01:46:06,951
except for the parking which
got a little confusing,

2054
01:46:06,951 --> 01:46:09,531
but I think it straightened out.

2055
01:46:09,531 --> 01:46:11,841
Most of my questions
are for the applicant

2056
01:46:11,841 --> 01:46:15,268
but I'll get up yet
We're going to give

2057
01:46:15,268 --> 01:46:16,101
we're going to take care.

2058
01:46:16,101 --> 01:46:18,143
Five minute break,
and then we'll

2059
01:46:18,143 --> 01:54:26,301
get back to me Rob I know
You're on you're there

2060
01:54:26,301 --> 01:54:33,651
and you said please, everyone
take your seats take your seats.

2061
01:54:33,651 --> 01:54:44,541
Take your seats, please See you
and get out of here by 11 1230

2062
01:54:44,541 --> 01:54:54,171
you'll be here by yourself
down 1230 before city

2063
01:54:54,171 --> 01:54:55,341
manager, any city commission.

2064
01:54:55,341 --> 01:54:59,841
You're ready Yes, we're
all set All right.

2065
01:54:59,841 --> 01:55:00,951
The applicant.

2066
01:55:00,951 --> 01:55:03,181
Please state your
name Thank you.

2067
01:55:03,181 --> 01:55:05,541
My name is Denis Mealy 200
East Broward Boulevard.

2068
01:55:05,541 --> 01:55:07,034
Fort Lauderdale On behalf.

2069
01:55:07,034 --> 01:55:09,654
The applicant before I show
some slides that I have,

2070
01:55:09,654 --> 01:55:12,021
I want to just talk
briefly about some

2071
01:55:12,021 --> 01:55:13,761
of the questions you
were asking and provide

2072
01:55:13,761 --> 01:55:15,261
some additional answers.

2073
01:55:15,261 --> 01:55:19,971
So you see on the
screen, the what we have,

2074
01:55:19,971 --> 01:55:22,851
of course, building is
already there building B

2075
01:55:22,851 --> 01:55:24,561
and C and D would be new.

2076
01:55:24,561 --> 01:55:29,001
So during construction, we're
going to keep the building

2077
01:55:29,001 --> 01:55:32,781
a parking lot open and then
as much of the other parking

2078
01:55:32,781 --> 01:55:34,251
onsite open as we can.

2079
01:55:34,251 --> 01:55:36,621
Obviously, we're going to have
to close off certain parts

2080
01:55:36,621 --> 01:55:39,891
when we're working on it But
before we do any of that,

2081
01:55:39,891 --> 01:55:43,521
we meet with your staff usually
police department engineers

2082
01:55:43,521 --> 01:55:46,851
and planning to do what's
called maintenance of traffic,

2083
01:55:46,851 --> 01:55:49,731
just like you see sometimes when
somebody is building a turn lane

2084
01:55:49,731 --> 01:55:52,311
and they have the little
orange cones out in the street,

2085
01:55:52,311 --> 01:55:54,411
they don't just go
shut that stuff up.

2086
01:55:54,411 --> 01:55:57,321
They work with the local
jurisdiction first to see how

2087
01:55:57,321 --> 01:55:58,821
should it be put in
where should it be,

2088
01:55:58,821 --> 01:56:00,771
What part of the day etc..

2089
01:56:00,771 --> 01:56:02,661
And we'll do the same
thing in this parking lot

2090
01:56:02,661 --> 01:56:06,021
to make sure that as many
spaces are open as possible.

2091
01:56:06,021 --> 01:56:08,391
One thing to keep
in mind building a

2092
01:56:08,391 --> 01:56:12,741
is 100% leased with
businesses that have leases

2093
01:56:12,741 --> 01:56:14,391
going out into the future.

2094
01:56:14,391 --> 01:56:16,311
So we're not going
to do anything

2095
01:56:16,311 --> 01:56:19,761
to harm those businesses
because that's our lifeblood.

2096
01:56:19,761 --> 01:56:21,666
You those are our tenants
and they're staying

2097
01:56:21,666 --> 01:56:22,941
and we're very happy.

2098
01:56:22,941 --> 01:56:24,561
The fact that they're staying.

2099
01:56:24,561 --> 01:56:27,921
People often talk about alibi
and hunters They're staying,

2100
01:56:27,921 --> 01:56:29,991
but so is everybody
else in that building.

2101
01:56:29,991 --> 01:56:31,521
And of course, we're
renovating the building

2102
01:56:31,521 --> 01:56:35,001
to make it look much
better than it does today

2103
01:56:35,001 --> 01:56:37,221
So I just wanted to
talk about that briefly.

2104
01:56:37,221 --> 01:56:38,721
The issue of the
number of units.

2105
01:56:38,721 --> 01:56:42,681
So 252 units were allocated
to the property before.

2106
01:56:42,681 --> 01:56:44,181
We only need 89.

2107
01:56:44,181 --> 01:56:48,201
So we're basically
giving 163 back.

2108
01:56:48,201 --> 01:56:52,761
The question about a restrictive
covenant, we only want 89 units.

2109
01:56:52,761 --> 01:56:54,681
We're not doing this
to come back later

2110
01:56:54,681 --> 01:56:57,201
and tear down the commercial
and build more units.

2111
01:56:57,201 --> 01:57:01,011
So if you want us to have a
restrictive covenant as well

2112
01:57:01,011 --> 01:57:04,681
as the restriction that's
in the p, u D, no problem

2113
01:57:04,681 --> 01:57:07,401
because the bottom line to
amanda restrictive covenant,

2114
01:57:07,401 --> 01:57:09,261
you'd have to come back
to the city commission

2115
01:57:09,261 --> 01:57:11,151
to amend the p u d
you'd have to come

2116
01:57:11,151 --> 01:57:12,141
back to the city commission.

2117
01:57:12,141 --> 01:57:14,421
So no problem with a
restrictive covenant

2118
01:57:14,421 --> 01:57:19,671
instead of a maximum of 252
units, it'll be a maximum of 89.

2119
01:57:19,671 --> 01:57:21,361
If we could switch to the other.

2120
01:57:21,361 --> 01:57:21,861
Thank you.

2121
01:57:21,861 --> 01:57:26,511
The other presentation my
planner gave me 72 slide.

2122
01:57:26,511 --> 01:57:30,551
I'm not showing I'll try to
make it like 20 or something,

2123
01:57:30,551 --> 01:57:32,403
and I'll do it as fast as I can.

2124
01:57:32,403 --> 01:57:35,103
I know she's got a long agenda
and a lot of people here.

2125
01:57:35,103 --> 01:57:36,894
All right so much
or I'll be thorough,

2126
01:57:36,894 --> 01:57:38,470
though I will if
there's something

2127
01:57:38,470 --> 01:57:40,701
I missed or something
i have questions about.

2128
01:57:40,701 --> 01:57:45,441
We got the other 57
slides there just in case.

2129
01:57:45,441 --> 01:57:47,061
Just let anybody know, though.

2130
01:57:47,061 --> 01:57:48,081
This is first reading.

2131
01:57:48,081 --> 01:57:49,401
There's two readings.

2132
01:57:49,401 --> 01:57:51,441
If it passes tonight,
there is going

2133
01:57:51,441 --> 01:57:56,811
to be a public comments
during this time Now,

2134
01:57:56,811 --> 01:57:58,161
not just at the B in a meeting.

2135
01:57:58,161 --> 01:58:00,021
Just everybody know.

2136
01:58:00,021 --> 01:58:01,551
I know everybody
knows where we're at.

2137
01:58:01,551 --> 01:58:04,221
But that often helps to
just look at an aerial

2138
01:58:04,221 --> 01:58:08,301
and see where you're at and
what's around you So this is

2139
01:58:08,301 --> 01:58:11,359
our site and you
see building a is

2140
01:58:11,359 --> 01:58:14,121
to remain and of
course, to be renovated

2141
01:58:14,121 --> 01:58:16,036
and then building the new.

2142
01:58:16,036 --> 01:58:18,447
We would tear down that
building in the back

2143
01:58:18,447 --> 01:58:21,681
and build buildings
to A, B, C and D

2144
01:58:21,681 --> 01:58:25,071
that Roberta showed earlier
just showing you the heights

2145
01:58:25,071 --> 01:58:26,083
of structures around us.

2146
01:58:26,083 --> 01:58:28,611
Because in a minute, I'm going
to show you kind of our building

2147
01:58:28,611 --> 01:58:32,421
heights just to
see where we fit in

2148
01:58:32,421 --> 01:58:35,502
So this is a little
rendering of the project,

2149
01:58:35,502 --> 01:58:39,030
you can see building a kind
of in the back building B

2150
01:58:39,030 --> 01:58:40,625
and C, right in the foreground.

2151
01:58:40,625 --> 01:58:45,081
And building D, the new
residential building

2152
01:58:45,081 --> 01:58:51,155
Just the site plan Another
version of the site plan.

2153
01:58:51,155 --> 01:58:53,121
OK This is what
I wanted to show.

2154
01:58:53,121 --> 01:58:57,051
So when we went to the
planning and zoning board,

2155
01:58:57,051 --> 01:58:58,899
we had a recommendation
of approval,

2156
01:58:58,899 --> 01:59:03,051
unanimous for both items, 7 to
0 but as we started to reach out

2157
01:59:03,051 --> 01:59:06,321
to Commissioner and Mayor,
we became clear to us

2158
01:59:06,321 --> 01:59:09,651
that we needed to do better
than what we had done so far

2159
01:59:09,651 --> 01:59:13,521
So you'll notice that Or he
told me there's a laser pointers

2160
01:59:13,521 --> 01:59:14,211
and that great.

2161
01:59:14,211 --> 01:59:17,541
Although he doesn't have
to point out here So

2162
01:59:17,541 --> 01:59:20,811
you notice we got
a 35 foot setback.

2163
01:59:20,811 --> 01:59:22,161
It's now 40.

2164
01:59:22,161 --> 01:59:25,041
We were able to building
up a little bit.

2165
01:59:25,041 --> 01:59:29,247
We had to meet on top a little
bit to make that happen.

2166
01:59:29,247 --> 01:59:33,261
As we were able to achieve
without any foot setback.

2167
01:59:33,261 --> 01:59:37,161
And so 35, we have four
there's two houses down here.

2168
01:59:37,161 --> 01:59:40,701
The setback 62ft, because
this is an open area.

2169
01:59:40,701 --> 01:59:42,501
The building starts here.

2170
01:59:42,501 --> 01:59:46,041
Now, when you're way over
here, the setback is 67ft.

2171
01:59:46,041 --> 01:59:49,491
But in this area here where
we have 35, you're not there

2172
01:59:49,491 --> 01:59:57,591
for oh I'm sorry.

2173
01:59:57,591 --> 01:59:59,841
So this is just showing
you a little vignette

2174
01:59:59,841 --> 02:00:00,951
of that back area.

2175
02:00:00,951 --> 02:00:04,611
So if you look at the
lower left hand diagram,

2176
02:00:04,611 --> 02:00:07,551
then it's I'm sorry, do you mind
going back to that previous.

2177
02:00:07,551 --> 02:00:12,591
Sure So I just
want to understand.

2178
02:00:12,591 --> 02:00:19,011
So the 35 foot setback would
be for the carriers property.

2179
02:00:19,011 --> 02:00:24,109
In other words, the other to
the left of 40, it was 35.

2180
02:00:24,109 --> 02:00:25,468
Now it was 35.

2181
02:00:25,468 --> 02:00:26,241
Now 40.

2182
02:00:26,241 --> 02:00:30,055
So if we go down a little
bit to that corner.

2183
02:00:30,055 --> 02:00:33,051
That's cut out here
by the other way

2184
02:00:33,051 --> 02:00:38,511
by Candler with that still
be 35 or is that 40 because I

2185
02:00:38,511 --> 02:00:40,281
don't see that increasing.

2186
02:00:40,281 --> 02:00:42,513
We're still strong, 35.

2187
02:00:42,513 --> 02:00:46,791
There because it's really the
side of the neighbor's house,

2188
02:00:46,791 --> 02:00:48,741
the garage is actually.

2189
02:00:48,741 --> 02:00:51,663
And so we did leave
that area at 35.

2190
02:00:51,663 --> 02:00:52,395
OK.

2191
02:00:52,395 --> 02:00:55,131
I'd like to know if
we can increase that

2192
02:00:55,131 --> 02:00:59,991
to 40 as well Yes, we will.

2193
02:00:59,991 --> 02:01:00,591
All right.

2194
02:01:00,591 --> 02:01:01,191
Thank you.

2195
02:01:01,191 --> 02:01:01,371
You.

2196
02:01:01,371 --> 02:01:01,871
I will.

2197
02:01:01,871 --> 02:01:04,491
Let me point out that if
we make a change like this,

2198
02:01:04,491 --> 02:01:07,243
which we will do,
obviously the staff

2199
02:01:07,243 --> 02:01:08,806
is going to have to review it.

2200
02:01:08,806 --> 02:01:09,306
OK.

2201
02:01:09,306 --> 02:01:11,102
Make sure it works OK.

2202
02:01:11,102 --> 02:01:13,581
And so if it doesn't
work, that's our risk.

2203
02:01:13,581 --> 02:01:15,501
We have to make sure it works.

2204
02:01:15,501 --> 02:01:16,221
All right Thank you.

2205
02:01:16,221 --> 02:01:16,941
I appreciate that.

2206
02:01:16,941 --> 02:01:17,571
We will.

2207
02:01:17,571 --> 02:01:22,716
So that setback just to
make it clear on here.

2208
02:01:22,716 --> 02:01:24,606
Yes, we come 40.

2209
02:01:24,606 --> 02:01:27,171
OK Piece of the building
is going to slide back.

2210
02:01:27,171 --> 02:01:30,278
So we would have 40
on both sides Yes.

2211
02:01:30,278 --> 02:01:30,778
OK.

2212
02:01:30,778 --> 02:01:33,141
We are adjacent to
residential of single family.

2213
02:01:33,141 --> 02:01:33,951
Residential.

2214
02:01:33,951 --> 02:01:35,031
We will have 40.

2215
02:01:35,031 --> 02:01:36,861
Thank you Can I ask a question?

2216
02:01:36,861 --> 02:01:39,561
No, you're sorry to
interrupt, but I'm

2217
02:01:39,561 --> 02:01:42,981
I need clarity because I've
heard two different numbers.

2218
02:01:42,981 --> 02:01:45,591
Now, as far as the
required setback,

2219
02:01:45,591 --> 02:01:49,701
I've heard that the required
setback for this was 65ft.

2220
02:01:49,701 --> 02:01:51,561
And then I heard the required
setback is the height

2221
02:01:51,561 --> 02:01:53,353
of the building at
that point, which

2222
02:01:53,353 --> 02:01:56,541
would be 48ft 48ft,
six inches, which

2223
02:01:56,541 --> 02:01:58,458
is what your director said.

2224
02:01:58,458 --> 02:01:59,671
That's the actual number.

2225
02:01:59,671 --> 02:02:00,171
Okay.

2226
02:02:00,171 --> 02:02:03,231
So we're not 65, 48.5.

2227
02:02:03,231 --> 02:02:04,971
So you're asking
now the exception is

2228
02:02:04,971 --> 02:02:06,591
you're asking for
eight feet at the

2229
02:02:06,591 --> 02:02:08,518
is what you're asking for Yes.

2230
02:02:08,518 --> 02:02:09,072
Okay.

2231
02:02:09,072 --> 02:02:15,171
From going from 48 to
40 48.5 to 48 86in 8.5.

2232
02:02:15,171 --> 02:02:16,231
Right.

2233
02:02:16,231 --> 02:02:16,731
Okay.

2234
02:02:16,731 --> 02:02:17,601
Thank you Okay.

2235
02:02:17,601 --> 02:02:20,841
Thank you for
basketball and football.

2236
02:02:20,841 --> 02:02:21,921
You're on that slide.

2237
02:02:21,921 --> 02:02:24,163
Since we're asking questions
is that okay with you?

2238
02:02:24,163 --> 02:02:24,793
We ask questions.

2239
02:02:24,793 --> 02:02:26,738
So we don't You
can ask questions.

2240
02:02:26,738 --> 02:02:30,938
It was not up to
him as a mayor Okay.

2241
02:02:30,938 --> 02:02:31,438
I'm okay.

2242
02:02:31,438 --> 02:02:31,938
Yeah.

2243
02:02:31,938 --> 02:02:36,051
So one, I really appreciate
you guys have made

2244
02:02:36,051 --> 02:02:39,321
a lot of a modifications,
so I appreciate

2245
02:02:39,321 --> 02:02:40,581
you coming in and doing this.

2246
02:02:40,581 --> 02:02:43,283
Unsure if it's going to
satisfy the people behind.

2247
02:02:43,283 --> 02:02:46,221
It's not the 45 there, I
think, but it shows that you're

2248
02:02:46,221 --> 02:02:48,111
a willing partner of the city.

2249
02:02:48,111 --> 02:02:49,701
So I definitely appreciate that.

2250
02:02:49,701 --> 02:02:52,821
What is actually, though, the
height of those that were now

2251
02:02:52,821 --> 02:02:54,201
go from 35 to 40.

2252
02:02:54,201 --> 02:02:55,821
So I've heard different
things over time.

2253
02:02:55,821 --> 02:02:57,846
Four foot 5, sorry, four floors.

2254
02:02:57,846 --> 02:02:59,196
Five floors, four floors.

2255
02:02:59,196 --> 02:03:00,981
It's all four floors.

2256
02:03:00,981 --> 02:03:02,761
Putting I have a diagram.

2257
02:03:02,761 --> 02:03:05,631
I'm going to show in a minute
that'll show, you know Okay.

2258
02:03:05,631 --> 02:03:07,221
So I think that will
answer the question.

2259
02:03:07,221 --> 02:03:07,967
Yeah.

2260
02:03:07,967 --> 02:03:09,861
I just want to thank
everyone to understand

2261
02:03:09,861 --> 02:03:12,771
because a lot of different
heights because of the garage

2262
02:03:12,771 --> 02:03:13,611
is just a 40.

2263
02:03:13,611 --> 02:03:14,361
It's 48.

2264
02:03:14,361 --> 02:03:16,131
And we just want to make
sure everyone understands

2265
02:03:16,131 --> 02:03:17,190
what's going on here.

2266
02:03:17,190 --> 02:03:19,519
Let me let me get
right to that, then.

2267
02:03:19,519 --> 02:03:21,201
I'm going to show this
first, then I'll do it.

2268
02:03:21,201 --> 02:03:23,811
So the other thing that we did
when we were at the planning

2269
02:03:23,811 --> 02:03:26,391
and zoning board
meeting they said,

2270
02:03:26,391 --> 02:03:29,811
we want you to do some
things on these balconies

2271
02:03:29,811 --> 02:03:32,811
to make sure that you're
not looking into people's

2272
02:03:32,811 --> 02:03:34,041
yards and that sort of thing.

2273
02:03:34,041 --> 02:03:38,091
So the first thing is, if you
look at the lower left diagram

2274
02:03:38,091 --> 02:03:41,061
here, you see that
there's like a planter box

2275
02:03:41,061 --> 02:03:43,041
along the edge of the balcony.

2276
02:03:43,041 --> 02:03:45,981
So you can't walk
right up to the railing

2277
02:03:45,981 --> 02:03:48,501
because there's a six
foot wide planter box

2278
02:03:48,501 --> 02:03:52,431
So you can walk up this far
but your railing is over there.

2279
02:03:52,431 --> 02:03:54,471
In other words, you can't
walk up to the railing.

2280
02:03:54,471 --> 02:03:57,951
Oh, here to the edge, because
you've got this big planter

2281
02:03:57,951 --> 02:04:01,371
box preventing you from going
up to the railing and of course,

2282
02:04:01,371 --> 02:04:05,661
the planter box has plants
in at least somewhat vertical

2283
02:04:05,661 --> 02:04:08,751
So i wanted to show
you that because I'm

2284
02:04:08,751 --> 02:04:11,334
going to show a line of sight
diagram in a few minutes.

2285
02:04:11,334 --> 02:04:15,171
So you can see how would
it compare to if we built

2286
02:04:15,171 --> 02:04:17,031
the building like wilma
on the drive under

2287
02:04:17,031 --> 02:04:19,551
Article 30 that was 80ft high.

2288
02:04:19,551 --> 02:04:21,111
So i'll show that in a minute.

2289
02:04:21,111 --> 02:04:23,661
So just to clarify because
so I understand that.

2290
02:04:23,661 --> 02:04:25,491
So you've got the edge
of the building, right?

2291
02:04:25,491 --> 02:04:28,671
And you're putting six
foot of the planner

2292
02:04:28,671 --> 02:04:31,401
so that they can't get to
the edge of the building

2293
02:04:31,401 --> 02:04:33,316
to prevent sort of
some site security

2294
02:04:33,316 --> 02:04:35,355
to the edge of the balcony OK.

2295
02:04:35,355 --> 02:04:39,321
And so you see that green on
that diagram in the lower left,

2296
02:04:39,321 --> 02:04:41,931
the green that wraps around
the edge of the balcony that's

2297
02:04:41,931 --> 02:04:42,681
the planter box.

2298
02:04:42,681 --> 02:04:44,841
The other thing we
did is they asked

2299
02:04:44,841 --> 02:04:49,311
us to put on the sides
like that something solid

2300
02:04:49,311 --> 02:04:52,431
So you can't go up to the side
of the balcony and look over.

2301
02:04:52,431 --> 02:04:57,831
So we actually have screening on
the sides of the balconies to.

2302
02:04:57,831 --> 02:05:02,601
So I want to show that
Now, here's the diagram.

2303
02:05:02,601 --> 02:05:03,622
It shows the building height.

2304
02:05:03,622 --> 02:05:07,161
So if you want where
it's yellow that's

2305
02:05:07,161 --> 02:05:09,351
one story where it's orange.

2306
02:05:09,351 --> 02:05:12,471
That's two stories where
it's green, that's four.

2307
02:05:12,471 --> 02:05:14,001
Whereas blue, that's five.

2308
02:05:14,001 --> 02:05:15,351
And where it's
purple, that's six.

2309
02:05:15,351 --> 02:05:20,451
So at one point, the entire
basically the entire residential

2310
02:05:20,451 --> 02:05:22,281
building was five stories.

2311
02:05:22,281 --> 02:05:26,691
But when we saw that we
do better on our adjacency

2312
02:05:26,691 --> 02:05:28,941
see two single family
homes, we lowered

2313
02:05:28,941 --> 02:05:30,711
that portion to four stories.

2314
02:05:30,711 --> 02:05:34,341
That's where you see
this again, That's

2315
02:05:34,341 --> 02:05:38,181
where you see the four stories
adjacent to the single family.

2316
02:05:38,181 --> 02:05:40,911
These are those balconies
that I was just showing you.

2317
02:05:40,911 --> 02:05:43,191
And then the main part of
the building is five stories

2318
02:05:43,191 --> 02:05:46,551
and only this part right
here is six stories.

2319
02:05:46,551 --> 02:05:48,111
And you see that's
the part that's

2320
02:05:48,111 --> 02:05:50,301
closest to the
commercial and farthest

2321
02:05:50,301 --> 02:05:52,461
away from the
residential neighbors.

2322
02:05:52,461 --> 02:05:56,827
So it's 6, 5, so adjacent
to the residential

2323
02:05:56,827 --> 02:06:00,021
where that kind
of neon green is.

2324
02:06:00,021 --> 02:06:02,631
That's 48ft, six inches high.

2325
02:06:02,631 --> 02:06:05,241
That's what roberta was
referring to earlier.

2326
02:06:05,241 --> 02:06:09,953
And that sets the required
under Article three,

2327
02:06:09,953 --> 02:06:11,751
the required setback
for that area

2328
02:06:11,751 --> 02:06:16,131
is based on the 48ft, six inches
height of that portion building.

2329
02:06:16,131 --> 02:06:24,171
You so the design inspiration
the architects love this ellis

2330
02:06:24,171 --> 02:06:26,841
Beach, a beautiful development
award winning development

2331
02:06:26,841 --> 02:06:28,431
in the panhandle of Florida.

2332
02:06:28,431 --> 02:06:29,451
Very modern.

2333
02:06:29,451 --> 02:06:31,041
And this is kind
of the inspiration.

2334
02:06:31,041 --> 02:06:33,871
Some of the colors, some
of the materials etc..

2335
02:06:33,871 --> 02:06:37,251
There's another slide
showing a similar thing.

2336
02:06:37,251 --> 02:06:41,121
So the one thing I will
tell you about my clients

2337
02:06:41,121 --> 02:06:46,551
as they monitor the social media
and we saw that we needed to do

2338
02:06:46,551 --> 02:06:50,781
better on some other things, not
just the setback So we started

2339
02:06:50,781 --> 02:06:54,981
looking at colors and signage
and everything So first of all,

2340
02:06:54,981 --> 02:06:59,331
keep in mind in our building
a where all the tenants are

2341
02:06:59,331 --> 02:07:01,851
staying, it's going
to be renovated,

2342
02:07:01,851 --> 02:07:03,801
it's going to be better
than it is today.

2343
02:07:03,801 --> 02:07:05,421
It'll look a lot better.

2344
02:07:05,421 --> 02:07:08,211
But then in our new
buildings, B and C

2345
02:07:08,211 --> 02:07:10,191
we saw that people
looked at this and said,

2346
02:07:10,191 --> 02:07:12,921
Gee, everything looks
kind of white and brown

2347
02:07:12,921 --> 02:07:15,381
and not very exciting.

2348
02:07:15,381 --> 02:07:17,511
So we started looking
at different things

2349
02:07:17,511 --> 02:07:19,611
we could do to the buildings
to make them look better.

2350
02:07:19,611 --> 02:07:20,511
And we want to do it.

2351
02:07:20,511 --> 02:07:24,381
You know, we're not we weren't
trying to have them be too plain

2352
02:07:24,381 --> 02:07:26,841
But when we saw that,
that was a concern

2353
02:07:26,841 --> 02:07:28,161
we decided to make some changes.

2354
02:07:28,161 --> 02:07:32,541
I want to show you those
now So for example,

2355
02:07:32,541 --> 02:07:36,355
here's the area where you're
between the two buildings,

2356
02:07:36,355 --> 02:07:38,721
B and C, there's going
to be outdoor seating,

2357
02:07:38,721 --> 02:07:42,168
umbrellas tables, you
know, for restaurants etc..

2358
02:07:42,168 --> 02:07:44,781
And you see we're doing a little
bit of kind of public art.

2359
02:07:44,781 --> 02:07:46,191
You see the signage.

2360
02:07:46,191 --> 02:07:48,441
And when a tenant
comes in, they're

2361
02:07:48,441 --> 02:07:50,391
going to be able to
do certain things

2362
02:07:50,391 --> 02:07:51,794
on that facade of the building.

2363
02:07:51,794 --> 02:07:53,361
I mean, we're not going
to start painting them.

2364
02:07:53,361 --> 02:07:56,961
We're but, you know, they
want something with signage.

2365
02:07:56,961 --> 02:07:59,241
They want awning.

2366
02:07:59,241 --> 02:08:02,901
They're just be able to be
a little bit of variation.

2367
02:08:02,901 --> 02:08:06,351
But you know, we
recognize that Wilton

2368
02:08:06,351 --> 02:08:09,201
Drive in for this aspect of it.

2369
02:08:09,201 --> 02:08:11,481
Wilton Drive reminds
me of La Solis, where

2370
02:08:11,481 --> 02:08:13,851
every store is different right?

2371
02:08:13,851 --> 02:08:15,651
But there are areas
where maybe there's

2372
02:08:15,651 --> 02:08:20,481
a larger shopping center where
you can't cut it up that way.

2373
02:08:20,481 --> 02:08:23,721
So we're trying to
fit in well with it.

2374
02:08:23,721 --> 02:08:28,071
I want to assure you that if
people are saying the businesses

2375
02:08:28,071 --> 02:08:30,291
that are there that they like
well, those are in building a

2376
02:08:30,291 --> 02:08:31,461
and they're staying.

2377
02:08:31,461 --> 02:08:33,442
You know, the other
building that we're removing

2378
02:08:33,442 --> 02:08:35,061
doesn't really
have anything in it

2379
02:08:35,061 --> 02:08:40,311
So we wanted to show you that
And then here's another example.

2380
02:08:40,311 --> 02:08:43,221
Same kind of thing.

2381
02:08:43,221 --> 02:08:46,161
This is the floor plan
for buildings B and C,

2382
02:08:46,161 --> 02:08:48,441
you see that we have an
area for outdoor seating

2383
02:08:48,441 --> 02:08:50,391
for restaurants, which we
think is very important.

2384
02:08:50,391 --> 02:08:51,891
And this is right on the drive.

2385
02:08:51,891 --> 02:08:57,441
So I think it's going to
be a great spot showing you

2386
02:08:57,441 --> 02:08:58,821
some of the renovation
that we're going

2387
02:08:58,821 --> 02:09:01,461
to be doing on building a.

2388
02:09:01,461 --> 02:09:04,101
And you know, again,
that is a better than

2389
02:09:04,101 --> 02:09:06,583
and it's why you're
doing the renovations

2390
02:09:06,583 --> 02:09:10,311
on the places that are
open hunters and alibis

2391
02:09:10,311 --> 02:09:11,811
and all the other places.

2392
02:09:11,811 --> 02:09:14,451
Are they going to be
able to stay open?

2393
02:09:14,451 --> 02:09:15,851
Yes.

2394
02:09:15,851 --> 02:09:16,536
Okay OK.

2395
02:09:16,536 --> 02:09:17,361
Yes, they will.

2396
02:09:17,361 --> 02:09:20,147
And we'll be working with
them closely and how we do it,

2397
02:09:20,147 --> 02:09:22,039
you know, you probably
you're probably going

2398
02:09:22,039 --> 02:09:23,467
to have some temporary signage.

2399
02:09:23,467 --> 02:09:25,881
So people open with
that sort of thing Okay.

2400
02:09:25,881 --> 02:09:28,821
We'll work closely with the
with the tenants to do that.

2401
02:09:28,821 --> 02:09:30,291
And I understand.

2402
02:09:30,291 --> 02:09:35,877
I understand it's I got a you
look through paper No, go ahead.

2403
02:09:35,877 --> 02:09:36,377
OK.

2404
02:09:36,377 --> 02:09:37,491
And what is the plan?

2405
02:09:37,491 --> 02:09:40,461
Is it renovating
this part first?

2406
02:09:40,461 --> 02:09:42,771
Is it A, B, C, or d?

2407
02:09:42,771 --> 02:09:43,551
What is that?

2408
02:09:43,551 --> 02:09:44,624
You're sketch.

2409
02:09:44,624 --> 02:09:46,551
So there's actually
we're going to

2410
02:09:46,551 --> 02:09:49,401
in the conditions of approval
there's a condition that

2411
02:09:49,401 --> 02:09:50,481
addresses that.

2412
02:09:50,481 --> 02:09:53,671
And so basically A
has to happen first.

2413
02:09:53,671 --> 02:09:54,171
Okay.

2414
02:09:54,171 --> 02:09:56,845
What the city has said to us
that everybody's been waiting

2415
02:09:56,845 --> 02:09:59,931
for for a long time is
to make the existing

2416
02:09:59,931 --> 02:10:03,361
buildings that you're going to
keep look better than they are.

2417
02:10:03,361 --> 02:10:03,861
Okay.

2418
02:10:03,861 --> 02:10:05,061
So that'll be the first.

2419
02:10:05,061 --> 02:10:06,943
And then the new retail.

2420
02:10:06,943 --> 02:10:08,781
And then the
residential in the back.

2421
02:10:08,781 --> 02:10:09,541
Residential first.

2422
02:10:09,541 --> 02:10:10,041
Right.

2423
02:10:10,041 --> 02:10:13,148
So let me talk about that
That's a good question.

2424
02:10:13,148 --> 02:10:13,760
It's important.

2425
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:14,577
We cover it.

2426
02:10:14,577 --> 02:10:18,250
So the renovation of building
a and the construction

2427
02:10:18,250 --> 02:10:21,771
of buildings, B and C
will proceed quickly

2428
02:10:21,771 --> 02:10:23,751
because once we're
done with this,

2429
02:10:23,751 --> 02:10:25,641
we're going to go get
a building permit.

2430
02:10:25,641 --> 02:10:28,191
And build them the
residential building

2431
02:10:28,191 --> 02:10:29,361
because it's kind of minimums.

2432
02:10:29,361 --> 02:10:31,533
You have to sell a
certain number of units

2433
02:10:31,533 --> 02:10:33,111
before you can
start construct one,

2434
02:10:33,111 --> 02:10:34,911
because you can't get a
construction loan until you've

2435
02:10:34,911 --> 02:10:36,201
sold a certain number of units.

2436
02:10:36,201 --> 02:10:39,621
So the residential building will
probably be the last thing built

2437
02:10:39,621 --> 02:10:43,641
And what happens if you
renovate A, you build B and C

2438
02:10:43,641 --> 02:10:48,621
and something in the market
changes and the residential

2439
02:10:48,621 --> 02:10:53,061
does not take place for whatever
reason, right Financing they

2440
02:10:53,061 --> 02:10:57,051
don't had 50% of the
sales A lot could happen

2441
02:10:57,051 --> 02:10:59,002
between now and the year into.

2442
02:10:59,002 --> 02:11:00,951
Of course, we don't
think that will happen.

2443
02:11:00,951 --> 02:11:04,919
But if it did we
just have to wait.

2444
02:11:04,919 --> 02:11:05,746
And the city.

2445
02:11:05,746 --> 02:11:07,881
I know would make us
make the site you know,

2446
02:11:07,881 --> 02:11:11,661
keep the site in good condition
I've had clients in the past

2447
02:11:11,661 --> 02:11:14,421
where the city said you're
not keeping your property

2448
02:11:14,421 --> 02:11:17,091
in good condition
So we you know,

2449
02:11:17,091 --> 02:11:19,311
if that's what would happen, we
would tell them not the goal.

2450
02:11:19,311 --> 02:11:19,831
I get it.

2451
02:11:19,831 --> 02:11:20,331
Right.

2452
02:11:20,331 --> 02:11:20,931
Right.

2453
02:11:20,931 --> 02:11:22,810
But it's reasonable to say,
well what if it happens?

2454
02:11:22,810 --> 02:11:23,310
Right.

2455
02:11:23,310 --> 02:11:24,051
Okay.

2456
02:11:24,051 --> 02:11:26,822
So Dennis, can I ask a question?

2457
02:11:26,822 --> 02:11:27,969
Could be longer on those.

2458
02:11:27,969 --> 02:11:30,171
Longer Yes.

2459
02:11:30,171 --> 02:11:32,031
When do you anticipate
starting this?

2460
02:11:32,031 --> 02:11:39,291
Do you have any idea
then which craft identify

2461
02:11:39,291 --> 02:11:41,661
name and address, please.

2462
02:11:41,661 --> 02:11:43,491
Good evening, everyone
My name's Ben Boyce.

2463
02:11:43,491 --> 02:11:46,084
I live at $2,816
Northeast 26th Street.

2464
02:11:46,084 --> 02:11:47,711
I'm with Styles.

2465
02:11:47,711 --> 02:11:52,191
Appreciate everyone coming out
tonight on the retail side,

2466
02:11:52,191 --> 02:11:56,271
we are currently drawing for
CD's and so hopefully we'll

2467
02:11:56,271 --> 02:11:59,931
be in a position to
submit those for permit

2468
02:11:59,931 --> 02:12:03,411
within the next probably
few weeks As soon as we're

2469
02:12:03,411 --> 02:12:06,171
able to get permits, we're
ready to start I mean,

2470
02:12:06,171 --> 02:12:08,841
there's a partnership
in place fully

2471
02:12:08,841 --> 02:12:12,271
capitalized and ready to go on
the retail commercial aspect.

2472
02:12:12,271 --> 02:12:12,771
Okay.

2473
02:12:12,771 --> 02:12:14,661
I would state
though, sorry, just

2474
02:12:14,661 --> 02:12:18,051
to take one step
back on the phasing

2475
02:12:18,051 --> 02:12:19,731
and we can talk about
this a little bit.

2476
02:12:19,731 --> 02:12:21,981
There are certainly some
nuances with phasing

2477
02:12:21,981 --> 02:12:25,821
the site, the buildings
b and C, which

2478
02:12:25,821 --> 02:12:27,231
are the new retail
buildings, take

2479
02:12:27,231 --> 02:12:29,481
longer to build
versus the renovation

2480
02:12:29,481 --> 02:12:31,371
of the existing asset.

2481
02:12:31,371 --> 02:12:34,401
We would certainly want to try
to be very mindful and strategic

2482
02:12:34,401 --> 02:12:37,941
about when we start and finish
the renovations of the existing

2483
02:12:37,941 --> 02:12:39,291
building Just given
that you've got

2484
02:12:39,291 --> 02:12:40,432
the existing tenants in there.

2485
02:12:40,432 --> 02:12:42,591
So again, we can talk
about that a little bit,

2486
02:12:42,591 --> 02:12:45,111
but we would work hand
in hand with the city.

2487
02:12:45,111 --> 02:12:46,401
We've done that over time.

2488
02:12:46,401 --> 02:12:50,462
Dissipate the new buildings
to take the build Yes.

2489
02:12:50,462 --> 02:12:52,098
To the new buildings
vertical is probably

2490
02:12:52,098 --> 02:12:53,000
approximately ten months.

2491
02:12:53,000 --> 02:12:53,500
OK.

2492
02:12:53,500 --> 02:12:54,031
Thank you.

2493
02:12:54,031 --> 02:12:54,531
You.

2494
02:12:54,531 --> 02:12:58,011
What about the existing
building Existing a building?

2495
02:12:58,011 --> 02:13:00,591
There's always unforeseen
conditions, unfortunately

2496
02:13:00,591 --> 02:13:04,071
but you're probably looking
at a roughly 120 days

2497
02:13:04,071 --> 02:13:07,341
to complete the bulk of the
work on the vertical renovation.

2498
02:13:07,341 --> 02:13:08,541
I'm not a builder.

2499
02:13:08,541 --> 02:13:12,411
I don't claim to be just like
I'm not a management accountant

2500
02:13:12,411 --> 02:13:14,421
However, you may want to.

2501
02:13:14,421 --> 02:13:18,380
Everything went out despite
our computers up here.

2502
02:13:18,380 --> 02:13:22,110
You know in the back Good job.

2503
02:13:22,110 --> 02:13:25,851
And because it's going
to take you know,

2504
02:13:25,851 --> 02:13:29,511
approximately four months
high season starts November.

2505
02:13:29,511 --> 02:13:31,761
It's to busiest
time our businesses

2506
02:13:31,761 --> 02:13:34,209
make almost no I
was like almost all

2507
02:13:34,209 --> 02:13:37,911
them most of their money
during that time, it would be

2508
02:13:37,911 --> 02:13:39,674
you could talk with the
business owners there.

2509
02:13:39,674 --> 02:13:41,686
And I would recommend you do so.

2510
02:13:41,686 --> 02:13:44,949
I would recommend you
can't get it in now like,

2511
02:13:44,949 --> 02:13:46,245
wait till after the season.

2512
02:13:46,245 --> 02:13:49,701
So we don't like cannibalize
and destroy their business

2513
02:13:49,701 --> 02:13:51,441
because there's no signage.

2514
02:13:51,441 --> 02:13:54,096
People can't get around
There's maybe less parking

2515
02:13:54,096 --> 02:13:55,131
that's my recommendation.

2516
02:13:55,131 --> 02:13:57,141
But ultimately, you all
need to figure out what's

2517
02:13:57,141 --> 02:13:58,656
best for the tenants there.

2518
02:13:58,656 --> 02:13:59,818
And for the renovation.

2519
02:13:59,818 --> 02:14:02,451
If i can, I have an
understanding that and correct

2520
02:14:02,451 --> 02:14:04,551
me if I'm wrong,
when you, Director,

2521
02:14:04,551 --> 02:14:08,252
that they can't be
issued a C on that.

2522
02:14:08,252 --> 02:14:11,541
And the buildings until
a until A is complete

2523
02:14:11,541 --> 02:14:13,401
Did I understand that correctly?

2524
02:14:13,401 --> 02:14:16,131
So the only thing I would say
is and i think that that's

2525
02:14:16,131 --> 02:14:17,721
very smart that you
suggest that we talked

2526
02:14:17,721 --> 02:14:20,211
to, that the tenants
and the tenants

2527
02:14:20,211 --> 02:14:22,881
may not want it to be
during season, bye.

2528
02:14:22,881 --> 02:14:25,941
If that's a tenant choice to
do that, I don't want that.

2529
02:14:25,941 --> 02:14:28,551
I don't want them honoring a
tenant choice to prevent them

2530
02:14:28,551 --> 02:14:30,158
from building in the retail.

2531
02:14:30,158 --> 02:14:32,911
Like I think we need to account
for that if they're giving

2532
02:14:32,911 --> 02:14:34,761
flexibility because of
the tenants, let's not,

2533
02:14:34,761 --> 02:14:37,113
you know damage
them because of it.

2534
02:14:37,113 --> 02:14:40,131
So when Ben and I were
talking about this earlier,

2535
02:14:40,131 --> 02:14:43,011
he mentioned the same thing you
just heard talk about ten months

2536
02:14:43,011 --> 02:14:44,391
to build the new
buildings, take about

2537
02:14:44,391 --> 02:14:47,271
four months to
renovate building a

2538
02:14:47,271 --> 02:14:49,051
and he would like
to finish them.

2539
02:14:49,051 --> 02:14:54,194
But basically, the
same time So okay then

2540
02:14:54,194 --> 02:14:58,551
and I say that right that he
will okay April next year they

2541
02:14:58,551 --> 02:15:01,497
but yes, there is a condition
that we have to deal with

2542
02:15:01,497 --> 02:15:04,795
and i'm honored I might want to
talk about that for a minute.

2543
02:15:04,795 --> 02:15:07,221
But let me finish,
Jacob, can we have

2544
02:15:07,221 --> 02:15:08,721
some additional
letters of support

2545
02:15:08,721 --> 02:15:10,281
that I weren't in
the back up, so.

2546
02:15:10,281 --> 02:15:12,171
Jacobs is going
to bring them up.

2547
02:15:12,171 --> 02:15:20,061
One from the venue one
from Heather AB dinoire.

2548
02:15:20,061 --> 02:15:23,125
She was had questions about the
channel ization of the driveway,

2549
02:15:23,125 --> 02:15:25,401
wanted to make sure we were
sending the cars back to Wilton

2550
02:15:25,401 --> 02:15:28,911
Manors and back to won't drive
and not into the neighborhood

2551
02:15:28,911 --> 02:15:32,773
And she thanked us for doing
and then also down moody

2552
02:15:32,773 --> 02:15:36,681
and I think that's it,
right, Jacob OK thank you.

2553
02:15:36,681 --> 02:15:39,756
And there's other letters
already in your back up right?

2554
02:15:39,756 --> 02:15:40,331
OK.

2555
02:15:40,331 --> 02:15:52,791
Let me keep going Oh, these are
just some interior shots Oh, we

2556
02:15:52,791 --> 02:15:57,187
also made changes to
the residential building

2557
02:15:57,187 --> 02:16:00,561
similar to what I was showing
on the retail and a little bit

2558
02:16:00,561 --> 02:16:03,321
of color and a little bit
of variation of materials

2559
02:16:03,321 --> 02:16:05,421
from tile and some other things.

2560
02:16:05,421 --> 02:16:10,248
Just to, you know, get away
from too much of the too much,

2561
02:16:10,248 --> 02:16:16,551
just the white look
just showing you

2562
02:16:16,551 --> 02:16:22,761
the pool area pulled
back that area

2563
02:16:22,761 --> 02:16:24,441
And then I'm going to
skip to the last slide.

2564
02:16:24,441 --> 02:16:27,205
Now, you don't want to
focus on the pet spa.

2565
02:16:27,205 --> 02:16:27,738
Can you do that?

2566
02:16:27,738 --> 02:16:33,276
That's fine Everyone
let me tell you,

2567
02:16:33,276 --> 02:16:34,828
I came out a little
bit early tonight.

2568
02:16:34,828 --> 02:16:36,231
And I was driving
through the neighborhood

2569
02:16:36,231 --> 02:16:38,658
and you got a lot of
people walking dogs

2570
02:16:38,658 --> 02:16:42,568
and like our dogs and cats OK.

2571
02:16:42,568 --> 02:16:46,861
So One of the things that
we were I got to keep going.

2572
02:16:46,861 --> 02:16:47,361
Right.

2573
02:16:47,361 --> 02:16:48,261
Okay.

2574
02:16:48,261 --> 02:16:51,381
And should be almost there.

2575
02:16:51,381 --> 02:16:54,114
Think it's the second
to the last slide.

2576
02:16:54,114 --> 02:16:56,413
There we go Here it is.

2577
02:16:56,413 --> 02:16:56,925
OK.

2578
02:16:56,925 --> 02:17:00,561
So we were asked
how would it compare

2579
02:17:00,561 --> 02:17:02,571
the way we're
building our building

2580
02:17:02,571 --> 02:17:04,214
versus article 30 building?

2581
02:17:04,214 --> 02:17:05,781
I don't know if that's
the right way to say it,

2582
02:17:05,781 --> 02:17:07,281
but that's sort of
what you said to me

2583
02:17:07,281 --> 02:17:10,761
So the Article 30 building
can be 80 foot high.

2584
02:17:10,761 --> 02:17:12,291
It does have that step back.

2585
02:17:12,291 --> 02:17:14,001
So you see the
article 30 building

2586
02:17:14,001 --> 02:17:15,801
is basically the purple line.

2587
02:17:15,801 --> 02:17:16,611
That's what that is.

2588
02:17:16,611 --> 02:17:17,571
We didn't draw the building.

2589
02:17:17,571 --> 02:17:20,241
We just drew the you
know, the setback,

2590
02:17:20,241 --> 02:17:22,101
the step back and the height.

2591
02:17:22,101 --> 02:17:28,551
So that this corner right here
is that that's the 80 foot mark.

2592
02:17:28,551 --> 02:17:30,561
And actually,
under your code you

2593
02:17:30,561 --> 02:17:35,091
can have a balcony extending
three feet out into the setback.

2594
02:17:35,091 --> 02:17:39,471
So the Article 30 building will
have a balcony right here where

2595
02:17:39,471 --> 02:17:41,991
the person can stand
right up to the railing

2596
02:17:41,991 --> 02:17:46,439
and look over and look
over into the backyard

2597
02:17:46,439 --> 02:17:48,231
for single family homes.

2598
02:17:48,231 --> 02:17:52,821
Our building even though we're
closer to the property line,

2599
02:17:52,821 --> 02:17:58,551
this is our maximum
height This is our balcony

2600
02:17:58,551 --> 02:18:01,461
And you can't see
the person's house.

2601
02:18:01,461 --> 02:18:04,416
You can see this, which
is above the house

2602
02:18:04,416 --> 02:18:08,511
because you can't come up to
the end zone and five foot six,

2603
02:18:08,511 --> 02:18:12,201
I can't see anything
in a six foot

2604
02:18:12,201 --> 02:18:14,151
So that was the
last slide I had.

2605
02:18:14,151 --> 02:18:16,671
But I was asked to, you know,
show how would it be, how would

2606
02:18:16,671 --> 02:18:19,611
it compare if you built
Article 30 versus we're

2607
02:18:19,611 --> 02:18:23,511
building for the privacy of the
single family homes behind us.

2608
02:18:23,511 --> 02:18:27,741
So we hope that we've
been able to achieve that.

2609
02:18:27,741 --> 02:18:30,544
You know, when I worked on the
last project with the Wilma

2610
02:18:30,544 --> 02:18:32,138
on the Drive and there.

2611
02:18:32,138 --> 02:18:34,731
We had a parking
garage in the back.

2612
02:18:34,731 --> 02:18:37,071
And so neighbors
said, hey, nobody can

2613
02:18:37,071 --> 02:18:38,511
there are no
windows for somebody

2614
02:18:38,511 --> 02:18:39,891
to look out into my yard.

2615
02:18:39,891 --> 02:18:42,321
So I knew it was an important
thing because we heard about it.

2616
02:18:42,321 --> 02:18:46,251
Then if we had Windows if they
would have been concerned.

2617
02:18:46,251 --> 02:18:49,641
So we said, what can we do
to make sure that you can't

2618
02:18:49,641 --> 02:18:50,961
look into somebody's yard?

2619
02:18:50,961 --> 02:18:52,401
And the planter boxes?

2620
02:18:52,401 --> 02:18:54,141
The setback and
everything else we did

2621
02:18:54,141 --> 02:18:56,511
seems to have done
the trick much better

2622
02:18:56,511 --> 02:19:00,561
than an Article 30 building
80 foot high with a balcony

2623
02:19:00,561 --> 02:19:01,690
sticking out three feet.

2624
02:19:01,690 --> 02:19:03,441
So just for clarity
in case other people.

2625
02:19:03,441 --> 02:19:06,741
So when you say Article three,
it's what our code allows us

2626
02:19:06,741 --> 02:19:10,850
without modification is the
example you give that you know

2627
02:19:10,850 --> 02:19:13,221
and a three foot off
of that, you know,

2628
02:19:13,221 --> 02:19:15,981
so you could obviously
look down if we did not

2629
02:19:15,981 --> 02:19:19,971
reason if we kept our
current WD zoning district,

2630
02:19:19,971 --> 02:19:21,531
we would be the purple line.

2631
02:19:21,531 --> 02:19:23,151
Okay.

2632
02:19:23,151 --> 02:19:26,721
And the planners
will that and will

2633
02:19:26,721 --> 02:19:28,071
that is that something
that is written

2634
02:19:28,071 --> 02:19:29,121
into that in the site plan?

2635
02:19:29,121 --> 02:19:30,711
So they have to always be there.

2636
02:19:30,711 --> 02:19:32,641
There's not an opportunity
that's correct.

2637
02:19:32,641 --> 02:19:33,141
Okay.

2638
02:19:33,141 --> 02:19:35,211
And they're in our
PUD document, too.

2639
02:19:35,211 --> 02:19:36,951
So remember what
Roberta was saying

2640
02:19:36,951 --> 02:19:40,971
earlier because a
p d has a graphic

2641
02:19:40,971 --> 02:19:42,891
that goes with the ordinance.

2642
02:19:42,891 --> 02:19:44,781
It is really kind
of the site plan

2643
02:19:44,781 --> 02:19:46,671
was just a little bit
less information on it.

2644
02:19:46,671 --> 02:19:49,911
But yes these planner boxes
are required by the P, U,

2645
02:19:49,911 --> 02:19:52,131
D, and the site plan.

2646
02:19:52,131 --> 02:19:54,488
And if you feel you need
to make that stronger

2647
02:19:54,488 --> 02:19:56,121
and you want to make it
a condition or something,

2648
02:19:56,121 --> 02:20:01,228
were perfectly fine with that
because we're going to do it.

2649
02:20:01,228 --> 02:20:03,151
You know questions.

2650
02:20:03,151 --> 02:20:06,981
But i have a question.

2651
02:20:06,981 --> 02:20:08,391
Dennis thank you.

2652
02:20:08,391 --> 02:20:12,141
I know you and I have had many
conversations and especially

2653
02:20:12,141 --> 02:20:17,091
about setbacks And I had to
strongly ask that the setbacks

2654
02:20:17,091 --> 02:20:18,125
start with a four.

2655
02:20:18,125 --> 02:20:21,351
So i'm really glad to see that
you've increased the setbacks.

2656
02:20:21,351 --> 02:20:23,691
I remember when you said you
wanted to start with a four

2657
02:20:23,691 --> 02:20:25,371
and my client said,
Does he mean four?

2658
02:20:25,371 --> 02:20:30,081
I so thank you for that.

2659
02:20:30,081 --> 02:20:33,921
We also had discussions
about it when we

2660
02:20:33,921 --> 02:20:35,256
approved the One year project.

2661
02:20:35,256 --> 02:20:39,561
There was a disclosure there was
an acknowledgment where people,

2662
02:20:39,561 --> 02:20:41,751
the residents are
acknowledging that they

2663
02:20:41,751 --> 02:20:43,341
live in the alternative
payment district

2664
02:20:43,341 --> 02:20:44,331
and what goes with that?

2665
02:20:44,331 --> 02:20:47,661
Because I don't want frivolous
noise complaints constantly.

2666
02:20:47,661 --> 02:20:50,571
A code And I think
that you have agreed

2667
02:20:50,571 --> 02:20:55,291
to put those that disclosure
in the bylaws Yes.

2668
02:20:55,291 --> 02:20:55,791
Okay.

2669
02:20:55,791 --> 02:21:00,231
I'm also going to ask typically
there's a application that gets

2670
02:21:00,231 --> 02:21:04,551
filed with the rules and
regulations where applicants

2671
02:21:04,551 --> 02:21:06,621
will initial it, you
know, when it's buried

2672
02:21:06,621 --> 02:21:08,422
in a in a three page bylaw.

2673
02:21:08,422 --> 02:21:09,681
No one sees that.

2674
02:21:09,681 --> 02:21:13,761
But I would also ask that the
disclosure be in the application

2675
02:21:13,761 --> 02:21:17,421
package where it's
acknowledged and initialed

2676
02:21:17,421 --> 02:21:18,561
with everything else.

2677
02:21:18,561 --> 02:21:19,761
Yes, we will do that.

2678
02:21:19,761 --> 02:21:20,301
Thank you.

2679
02:21:20,301 --> 02:21:23,319
I appreciate that
And I know typically,

2680
02:21:23,319 --> 02:21:26,901
we provide, I believe, copies of
the condo documents for the city

2681
02:21:26,901 --> 02:21:28,043
attorney to review.

2682
02:21:28,043 --> 02:21:30,390
So we'll provide a copy
of the application.

2683
02:21:30,390 --> 02:21:34,071
OK And thank you for the offer
with the restrictive covenant,

2684
02:21:34,071 --> 02:21:35,601
we will take you up on that.

2685
02:21:35,601 --> 02:21:38,901
No problem We will.

2686
02:21:38,901 --> 02:21:42,801
I think i think that's
all I have for now Chris,

2687
02:21:42,801 --> 02:21:44,301
sorry to jump back in there.

2688
02:21:44,301 --> 02:21:46,911
If I understood it wasn't
mentioned earlier that there is

2689
02:21:46,911 --> 02:21:49,191
some sort of
agreement that if more

2690
02:21:49,191 --> 02:21:53,288
traffic calming is necessary
that you guys were open to that.

2691
02:21:53,288 --> 02:21:55,611
And do I understand that
there's some sort of we

2692
02:21:55,611 --> 02:21:57,531
have some sort of
construction bond or some bond

2693
02:21:57,531 --> 02:22:01,274
that I mean, I feel confident
that the traffic will be,

2694
02:22:01,274 --> 02:22:02,108
as it's described.

2695
02:22:02,108 --> 02:22:03,359
And we won't need to.

2696
02:22:03,359 --> 02:22:05,901
But if we needed to there is
some we have some recourse

2697
02:22:05,901 --> 02:22:08,761
to be able to do those.

2698
02:22:08,761 --> 02:22:12,201
Yes, we had committed at the
PNC meeting that we would do it.

2699
02:22:12,201 --> 02:22:14,271
Roberta mentioned that
you have a system that you

2700
02:22:14,271 --> 02:22:15,531
use for traffic calming.

2701
02:22:15,531 --> 02:22:17,781
So I think she wanted it
to go through that system.

2702
02:22:17,781 --> 02:22:20,105
And once it does, if they
say that we need to do it,

2703
02:22:20,105 --> 02:22:21,381
we'll take care of it.

2704
02:22:21,381 --> 02:22:23,961
Well, the only thing that the
P and Z asked us to do that.

2705
02:22:23,961 --> 02:22:25,821
We're not going
to be able to do,

2706
02:22:25,821 --> 02:22:27,471
Remember, they asked
for a mid-block

2707
02:22:27,471 --> 02:22:29,371
crossing if D.O.T. approved.

2708
02:22:29,371 --> 02:22:29,871
Right.

2709
02:22:29,871 --> 02:22:33,242
Well, we went to Dot and they
said no Of course they did.

2710
02:22:33,242 --> 02:22:38,901
Just draw on that Alaska
and we could finish it.

2711
02:22:38,901 --> 02:22:40,401
So any other questions for me?

2712
02:22:40,401 --> 02:22:45,539
I have a question on the
planner box and the balconies.

2713
02:22:45,539 --> 02:22:47,721
Those are limited
common elements.

2714
02:22:47,721 --> 02:22:51,651
I'm sorry, the planter box
and the balconies on a condo.

2715
02:22:51,651 --> 02:22:53,721
They're limited common
elements, correct?

2716
02:22:53,721 --> 02:22:55,317
Yes OK.

2717
02:22:55,317 --> 02:23:00,021
So who's going to maintain
the planter boxes and who's

2718
02:23:00,021 --> 02:23:03,591
going to make sure that
the plants get watered

2719
02:23:03,591 --> 02:23:04,731
and stay there?

2720
02:23:04,731 --> 02:23:08,211
The condo owner, Because you
would have to be you know,

2721
02:23:08,211 --> 02:23:09,711
I agree because I mean
you have to go through

2722
02:23:09,711 --> 02:23:11,331
that the condo to get to it.

2723
02:23:11,331 --> 02:23:13,041
It'll be the owner's
responsibility

2724
02:23:13,041 --> 02:23:14,061
to the individual unit owner.

2725
02:23:14,061 --> 02:23:16,941
But if he doesn't do it, the
Condo Association Association

2726
02:23:16,941 --> 02:23:19,971
will have the right to
step in and take care of it

2727
02:23:19,971 --> 02:23:22,225
And they have to go through
their unit to get to it.

2728
02:23:22,225 --> 02:23:24,231
I'm sorry Interesting.

2729
02:23:24,231 --> 02:23:25,812
It's a patio, though, right?

2730
02:23:25,812 --> 02:23:26,312
Yes.

2731
02:23:26,312 --> 02:23:27,708
Their pad is their back kind of.

2732
02:23:27,708 --> 02:23:29,901
You can get by times You
know, the outside area,

2733
02:23:29,901 --> 02:23:30,571
you can do it is.

2734
02:23:30,571 --> 02:23:31,071
No, no.

2735
02:23:31,071 --> 02:23:33,891
These are just balcony keys
for an individual unit.

2736
02:23:33,891 --> 02:23:49,371
They're not as not say, party
area or something like okay that

2737
02:23:49,371 --> 02:23:52,314
was a very detailed explanation
for something I said,

2738
02:23:52,314 --> 02:23:56,213
with fewer words I just what?

2739
02:23:56,213 --> 02:24:01,320
Say it again, then i went to the
university of Michigan and Tim

2740
02:24:01,320 --> 02:24:02,681
went to Michigan State.

2741
02:24:02,681 --> 02:24:04,401
So we do this all the time.

2742
02:24:04,401 --> 02:24:07,041
Yeah, that's a problem.

2743
02:24:07,041 --> 02:24:09,840
But so there there's
like a hallway.

2744
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:11,898
I just want to reiterate cause
I think what he said is, yeah,

2745
02:24:11,898 --> 02:24:14,331
there's a hallway and then
so you're then it's this sort

2746
02:24:14,331 --> 02:24:15,843
of patio on the other side.

2747
02:24:15,843 --> 02:24:17,648
So it's not like
people have to like,

2748
02:24:17,648 --> 02:24:19,763
come through someone's
private home I don't know.

2749
02:24:19,763 --> 02:24:23,436
I maintain this kind of
just need all those words

2750
02:24:23,436 --> 02:24:25,124
and Yeah, I'd say.

2751
02:24:25,124 --> 02:24:27,411
But just just one last question.

2752
02:24:27,411 --> 02:24:30,321
Can we just talk about
bike racks for a moment?

2753
02:24:30,321 --> 02:24:32,451
I believe you have bike
racks in the garage.

2754
02:24:32,451 --> 02:24:33,683
Is that where they are ?

2755
02:24:33,683 --> 02:24:35,135
Yes, in the garage.

2756
02:24:35,135 --> 02:24:38,751
But also bike racks in the
shopping center parking lot.

2757
02:24:38,751 --> 02:24:41,271
And I think it's by the i store.

2758
02:24:41,271 --> 02:24:44,331
Is that where they are I
believe that I've just gotten

2759
02:24:44,331 --> 02:24:47,781
some complaints from residents I
think that there were bike racks

2760
02:24:47,781 --> 02:24:49,988
at One point over
on the alibi side

2761
02:24:49,988 --> 02:24:52,791
because people were using
them and now they're

2762
02:24:52,791 --> 02:24:54,111
completely on the other side.

2763
02:24:54,111 --> 02:24:58,791
So I guess my only request is it
possible to put some bike racks

2764
02:24:58,791 --> 02:25:01,491
back there That's my request.

2765
02:25:01,491 --> 02:25:04,078
He just said yes Yes, that.

2766
02:25:04,078 --> 02:25:04,578
Okay.

2767
02:25:04,578 --> 02:25:05,181
Thank you.

2768
02:25:05,181 --> 02:25:05,391
You.

2769
02:25:05,391 --> 02:25:06,111
I appreciate it.

2770
02:25:06,111 --> 02:25:06,771
Thank you.

2771
02:25:06,771 --> 02:25:07,761
Go ahead.

2772
02:25:07,761 --> 02:25:09,711
So if you have any
other questions for me,

2773
02:25:09,711 --> 02:25:11,031
I'll be happy to
answer them at the end

2774
02:25:11,031 --> 02:25:12,141
of the public comment period.

2775
02:25:12,141 --> 02:25:13,311
Like the opportunity.

2776
02:25:13,311 --> 02:25:15,021
Oh, i'm sorry I
missed one thing.

2777
02:25:15,021 --> 02:25:16,701
I was supposed to
talk a public comment.

2778
02:25:16,701 --> 02:25:22,311
Conditions So I just wanted
to clarify on condition number

2779
02:25:22,311 --> 02:25:25,101
six, that's your standard
condition, that a site plan

2780
02:25:25,101 --> 02:25:27,771
expires after one year issue.

2781
02:25:27,771 --> 02:25:32,031
A building permit is not issued
I've reviewed this with Roberta

2782
02:25:32,031 --> 02:25:34,911
and obviously the commercial
buildings are going

2783
02:25:34,911 --> 02:25:37,161
to go within a year,
but the residential

2784
02:25:37,161 --> 02:25:39,081
is not because or may not.

2785
02:25:39,081 --> 02:25:40,611
That depends on
how long it takes

2786
02:25:40,611 --> 02:25:42,231
them to sell the
number of condos

2787
02:25:42,231 --> 02:25:43,941
you needed to sell and start.

2788
02:25:43,941 --> 02:25:45,666
So what time are
you looking for?

2789
02:25:45,666 --> 02:25:50,529
3 years for the condo
building Because I think it.

2790
02:25:50,529 --> 02:25:52,531
I hope it will take less.

2791
02:25:52,531 --> 02:25:56,151
But are you knocking down the
buildings in the back right

2792
02:25:56,151 --> 02:26:00,225
away when you do
the front being see.

2793
02:26:00,225 --> 02:26:01,089
Yeah.

2794
02:26:01,089 --> 02:26:04,326
OK So after a year,
though, I mean,

2795
02:26:04,326 --> 02:26:07,511
we want to make sure that's
not just a bunch of dust bowl

2796
02:26:07,511 --> 02:26:08,237
back there.

2797
02:26:08,237 --> 02:26:10,011
If you're not going to start it.

2798
02:26:10,011 --> 02:26:11,579
So something has
to be done there.

2799
02:26:11,579 --> 02:26:13,808
I'm not saying you need to
plant trees or things like that.

2800
02:26:13,808 --> 02:26:18,738
But you have to make sure
that it looks maintenance.

2801
02:26:18,738 --> 02:26:22,191
I hear you see that or do
something, something rash.

2802
02:26:22,191 --> 02:26:22,791
Yeah.

2803
02:26:22,791 --> 02:26:26,001
Okay Is it possible to
put a temporary parking

2804
02:26:26,001 --> 02:26:28,851
lot there to help?

2805
02:26:28,851 --> 02:26:30,741
It would be up to the city
because they'd have to make

2806
02:26:30,741 --> 02:26:31,821
it a parking anywhere drainage.

2807
02:26:31,821 --> 02:26:34,431
Unless we look at
something temporary

2808
02:26:34,431 --> 02:26:36,771
where there are allowed, even
if, you know, travels allowed.

2809
02:26:36,771 --> 02:26:42,921
But you know what
I'm to maybe we don't

2810
02:26:42,921 --> 02:26:44,143
need to answer for that now.

2811
02:26:44,143 --> 02:26:46,267
Yeah, that the answer
now, but Dennis

2812
02:26:46,267 --> 02:26:50,012
just it's something could be
a parking would be the is not.

2813
02:26:50,012 --> 02:26:53,151
So if we knock down the built
when we knock down the building

2814
02:26:53,151 --> 02:26:55,451
if we're not starting the
condo building right away,

2815
02:26:55,451 --> 02:26:58,041
well, we'll work with
the staff rocket repair

2816
02:26:58,041 --> 02:27:00,842
the site whether it
should just be grass

2817
02:27:00,842 --> 02:27:03,650
or whether it could be a
temporary parking lot I think it

2818
02:27:03,650 --> 02:27:05,138
just we're going to staff you.

2819
02:27:05,138 --> 02:27:05,755
OK?

2820
02:27:05,755 --> 02:27:10,304
But we're open So if we can
just go back to the comments

2821
02:27:10,304 --> 02:27:12,171
earlier that commissioners
are many have just brought up

2822
02:27:12,171 --> 02:27:15,051
about a potential
restrictive covenant

2823
02:27:15,051 --> 02:27:20,541
and building aside from
that, I think we would just

2824
02:27:20,541 --> 02:27:25,075
do a restrictive covenant that
says in this property right,

2825
02:27:25,075 --> 02:27:26,931
there's only 89
residential units.

2826
02:27:26,931 --> 02:27:28,971
If we ever wanted to
build more than that,

2827
02:27:28,971 --> 02:27:30,456
we would have to
amend the covenant,

2828
02:27:30,456 --> 02:27:33,156
which means we would have to
come back to the commission.

2829
02:27:33,156 --> 02:27:36,436
OK which is frankly better
than what we have before And so

2830
02:27:36,436 --> 02:27:37,544
before I was 20, 29.

2831
02:27:37,544 --> 02:27:40,011
Yeah, 2 4, 3,
right Is this time,

2832
02:27:40,011 --> 02:27:41,366
Mayor for just
general discussion

2833
02:27:41,366 --> 02:27:42,329
on us or just questions?

2834
02:27:42,329 --> 02:27:42,829
OK.

2835
02:27:42,829 --> 02:27:43,195
Yeah.

2836
02:27:43,195 --> 02:27:43,744
Because you're.

2837
02:27:43,744 --> 02:27:44,475
Are you done?

2838
02:27:44,475 --> 02:27:46,191
I just want one
thing I needed to do,

2839
02:27:46,191 --> 02:27:49,422
so I wanted to ask about
the start of construction

2840
02:27:49,422 --> 02:27:51,441
for the residential which I did.

2841
02:27:51,441 --> 02:27:53,841
And then we talked
about this earlier

2842
02:27:53,841 --> 02:27:56,961
on page eight of 11
of the ordinance.

2843
02:27:56,961 --> 02:27:59,001
And actually on page six
starts the conditions.

2844
02:27:59,001 --> 02:28:02,151
But the two that I wanted to
talk about were 28 and 29.

2845
02:28:02,151 --> 02:28:05,871
So 28 is the one we were
talking about earlier about when

2846
02:28:05,871 --> 02:28:09,021
do you do building a, A, B,
the other buildings, right

2847
02:28:09,021 --> 02:28:12,501
So right now, 28 says
prior to the issuance

2848
02:28:12,501 --> 02:28:15,711
of the first certificate of
completion or first occupancy,

2849
02:28:15,711 --> 02:28:18,675
there's a couple of words
missing there for the project.

2850
02:28:18,675 --> 02:28:22,131
The facade improvements for
building a must be complete.

2851
02:28:22,131 --> 02:28:24,752
So we wanted to make
it clear, I'm sorry,

2852
02:28:24,752 --> 02:28:27,591
what we can change that
because if somehow we

2853
02:28:27,591 --> 02:28:31,043
want to wait until some time to
do that, not maybe summer time,

2854
02:28:31,043 --> 02:28:33,471
but maybe till March
or April or May

2855
02:28:33,471 --> 02:28:34,851
even start that because
you said you want

2856
02:28:34,851 --> 02:28:36,381
to finish at the same time.

2857
02:28:36,381 --> 02:28:37,191
Correct.

2858
02:28:37,191 --> 02:28:41,361
So if you don't start the
building until January

2859
02:28:41,361 --> 02:28:44,001
you really don't
want to start of size

2860
02:28:44,001 --> 02:28:45,261
and pride till june maybe.

2861
02:28:45,261 --> 02:28:48,351
And they'll be done before
the next year, before that.

2862
02:28:48,351 --> 02:28:49,191
Okay.

2863
02:28:49,191 --> 02:28:50,721
So we can work
out a certain way.

2864
02:28:50,721 --> 02:28:53,151
We can do it with Roberta
word that that you're

2865
02:28:53,151 --> 02:28:57,344
going to make it so you can best
put it towards the summertime.

2866
02:28:57,344 --> 02:28:58,911
I mean, I haven't talked
to the businesses yet.

2867
02:28:58,911 --> 02:29:01,137
Maybe businesses will say
no to summertime stuff.

2868
02:29:01,137 --> 02:29:03,441
It is We can't afford
to have that mess.

2869
02:29:03,441 --> 02:29:06,728
But you know I would
coordinate with the businesses

2870
02:29:06,728 --> 02:29:09,141
as best you can
and with roberta.

2871
02:29:09,141 --> 02:29:12,738
So because we're going to be
coming back for a second reading

2872
02:29:12,738 --> 02:29:15,501
if saying this evening, we could
write if you still talk to.

2873
02:29:15,501 --> 02:29:18,293
Yeah, that's fine You come
up with something worse

2874
02:29:18,293 --> 02:29:19,229
than the last one.

2875
02:29:19,229 --> 02:29:22,294
I want to talk
about was number 29.

2876
02:29:22,294 --> 02:29:26,421
So 29 is a problem because
it's tying the construction

2877
02:29:26,421 --> 02:29:29,481
of B and C to D right?

2878
02:29:29,481 --> 02:29:31,851
D, the B in the residential
of building B and C beyond.

2879
02:29:31,851 --> 02:29:33,621
The two new
commercial buildings,

2880
02:29:33,621 --> 02:29:36,351
you have to get construction
loans to build these buildings

2881
02:29:36,351 --> 02:29:38,871
and a construction lender is
not going to loan you money

2882
02:29:38,871 --> 02:29:41,721
on your building if you can't
build unless somebody else

2883
02:29:41,721 --> 02:29:43,191
builds their building
that he's not

2884
02:29:43,191 --> 02:29:48,924
even loaning the money on So 29,
we really need it to go away.

2885
02:29:48,924 --> 02:29:50,391
I don't really have a
problem with that one,

2886
02:29:50,391 --> 02:29:51,124
to be honest with you.

2887
02:29:51,124 --> 02:29:54,411
As long as long as we know that
if you knock down the building

2888
02:29:54,411 --> 02:29:57,351
back there and something happens
it's going to take two years.

2889
02:29:57,351 --> 02:30:00,381
And you make it a
parking lot parking lot

2890
02:30:00,381 --> 02:30:03,471
or make it a green
space for now.

2891
02:30:03,471 --> 02:30:05,841
I mean, that's me speaking, but
I don't have a problem with that

2892
02:30:05,841 --> 02:30:09,351
because the fact that he has to
get a percentage of of condos

2893
02:30:09,351 --> 02:30:12,141
sold before he starts in
our city code, which would

2894
02:30:12,141 --> 02:30:13,821
require, you know, some level.

2895
02:30:13,821 --> 02:30:15,501
You can't just you can't
just leave rubble there.

2896
02:30:15,501 --> 02:30:16,001
Right.

2897
02:30:16,001 --> 02:30:19,071
You know, will sort of
guarantee us some level there.

2898
02:30:19,071 --> 02:30:21,561
And as long we understand
that you would not

2899
02:30:21,561 --> 02:30:23,091
want us to tear
down the building

2900
02:30:23,091 --> 02:30:25,581
and leave a bunch of
bare dirt there right.

2901
02:30:25,581 --> 02:30:26,841
That's not good for anybody.

2902
02:30:26,841 --> 02:30:29,391
No, I know But as long as
put some wording in there

2903
02:30:29,391 --> 02:30:31,911
and talk to Roberta, put some
wording in there that, you know,

2904
02:30:31,911 --> 02:30:35,631
after a certain time if you
know you're not going to build

2905
02:30:35,631 --> 02:30:37,671
in the next six months that
something has to be done

2906
02:30:37,671 --> 02:30:40,521
to that, that will
we'll put that language

2907
02:30:40,521 --> 02:30:42,385
into conditional Yeah.

2908
02:30:42,385 --> 02:30:44,099
Now, when we talk
about the time frame.

2909
02:30:44,099 --> 02:30:45,199
OK, right in there with.

2910
02:30:45,199 --> 02:30:46,251
Okay.

2911
02:30:46,251 --> 02:30:47,211
Thank you very much again.

2912
02:30:47,211 --> 02:30:49,005
Any questions?

2913
02:30:49,005 --> 02:30:50,089
You still ask questions.

2914
02:30:50,089 --> 02:30:52,389
Okay You said you were
done, then you say

2915
02:30:52,389 --> 02:30:53,426
you still have something else.

2916
02:30:53,426 --> 02:30:54,891
Just general
discussion, right Okay.

2917
02:30:54,891 --> 02:30:57,021
So many questions right?

2918
02:30:57,021 --> 02:30:57,711
No question.

2919
02:30:57,711 --> 02:30:58,281
Anybody else?

2920
02:30:58,281 --> 02:30:59,151
Any questions for Dennis?

2921
02:30:59,151 --> 02:31:00,531
No, no, no Or you.

2922
02:31:00,531 --> 02:31:01,941
Then you can just
like the opportunity

2923
02:31:01,941 --> 02:31:02,950
to come back at that.

2924
02:31:02,950 --> 02:31:03,628
Don't go far away.

2925
02:31:03,628 --> 02:31:04,128
Okay.

2926
02:31:04,128 --> 02:31:04,633
Thank you.

2927
02:31:04,633 --> 02:31:05,306
I'll be close.

2928
02:31:05,306 --> 02:31:05,811
Thank you.

2929
02:31:05,811 --> 02:31:06,311
You.

2930
02:31:06,311 --> 02:31:09,593
So nothing else Like I
told everybody before,

2931
02:31:09,593 --> 02:31:10,401
second reading.

2932
02:31:10,401 --> 02:31:14,811
Oh we have a motion in a second.

2933
02:31:14,811 --> 02:31:18,631
So a discussion You anything?

2934
02:31:18,631 --> 02:31:19,131
Yeah.

2935
02:31:19,131 --> 02:31:21,231
So, you know, we're here.

2936
02:31:21,231 --> 02:31:22,881
Well, thank you for
the presentation

2937
02:31:22,881 --> 02:31:24,441
and thank you from
city staff for that.

2938
02:31:24,441 --> 02:31:26,511
And I appreciate all the
residents coming out and voicing

2939
02:31:26,511 --> 02:31:29,721
their opinions and voicing
them over the course of the

2940
02:31:29,721 --> 02:31:32,271
past few weeks and few months.

2941
02:31:32,271 --> 02:31:35,481
That gives the developer
information just like they made

2942
02:31:35,481 --> 02:31:39,411
changes to some of the walls
and actually the aesthetic piece

2943
02:31:39,411 --> 02:31:44,571
of comments that they've
heard Not a big fan of PEDs

2944
02:31:44,571 --> 02:31:48,997
And you know, we spent so much
time building out the taxes,

2945
02:31:48,997 --> 02:31:52,281
and all the rules So
developers and residents

2946
02:31:52,281 --> 02:31:54,411
understand this is
what you need to build.

2947
02:31:54,411 --> 02:32:00,471
Although I may not like pewds
it's a legal pathway in our

2948
02:32:00,471 --> 02:32:02,271
it's an ordinance in
our charter that people

2949
02:32:02,271 --> 02:32:06,351
can follow to get to this
get to the same results

2950
02:32:06,351 --> 02:32:08,091
of a finished product.

2951
02:32:08,091 --> 02:32:11,451
So although I like them,
they're allowed to do them.

2952
02:32:11,451 --> 02:32:14,601
So I know there's
people talking about,

2953
02:32:14,601 --> 02:32:17,421
well, you know, we have
rules in place We do.

2954
02:32:17,421 --> 02:32:19,431
But this is just
an alternate route

2955
02:32:19,431 --> 02:32:21,051
that they've opted
to take that they're

2956
02:32:21,051 --> 02:32:23,331
allowed to do So whether
I like it or not,

2957
02:32:23,331 --> 02:32:24,531
it's not about my feelings.

2958
02:32:24,531 --> 02:32:25,737
You're allowed to do it.

2959
02:32:25,737 --> 02:32:30,411
And there's pros and cons to
doing it and to not doing it.

2960
02:32:30,411 --> 02:32:34,011
But I will tell people there's
some people that may not know

2961
02:32:34,011 --> 02:32:37,971
style is used to own this
property Many years ago,

2962
02:32:37,971 --> 02:32:41,601
and there were always a really
good partner to the city.

2963
02:32:41,601 --> 02:32:43,521
The people that
purchased it from them

2964
02:32:43,521 --> 02:32:47,284
that they have subsequently
re bought it back and your.

2965
02:32:47,284 --> 02:32:48,192
Yeah.

2966
02:32:48,192 --> 02:32:49,725
Builders they forever.

2967
02:32:49,725 --> 02:32:52,491
I don't want to say the
name, but the previous owner

2968
02:32:52,491 --> 02:32:55,791
right before them in between
you own it weren't necessarily

2969
02:32:55,791 --> 02:33:00,141
great neighbors and I was not
overly fond of their project

2970
02:33:00,141 --> 02:33:04,080
and i think you're coming
in, being a true partner.

2971
02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:05,871
And so i do appreciate that.

2972
02:33:05,871 --> 02:33:07,791
And you've come
in with a project

2973
02:33:07,791 --> 02:33:10,161
that you may be asking
for exceptions for,

2974
02:33:10,161 --> 02:33:12,351
but you've revised
a number of times

2975
02:33:12,351 --> 02:33:14,541
to accommodate
residents requests,

2976
02:33:14,541 --> 02:33:17,241
commissioners requests
staff requests

2977
02:33:17,241 --> 02:33:19,371
and this is about a
long term partnership.

2978
02:33:19,371 --> 02:33:23,361
So i just want to say that that
i really do appreciate that.

2979
02:33:23,361 --> 02:33:24,886
I do appreciate it.

2980
02:33:24,886 --> 02:33:27,891
Question of Dominico really
pushing that noise issue.

2981
02:33:27,891 --> 02:33:29,961
I think that's going
to be really important

2982
02:33:29,961 --> 02:33:33,801
And just as a side note I would
actually like city manager

2983
02:33:33,801 --> 02:33:38,691
to make a note that I would like
the noise ordinance specifically

2984
02:33:38,691 --> 02:33:41,676
for the Wilton Drive arts
and Entertainment District

2985
02:33:41,676 --> 02:33:42,531
to come back.

2986
02:33:42,531 --> 02:33:45,681
So we could have discussion
on that at a different meeting

2987
02:33:45,681 --> 02:33:49,101
because I think that may need
to be adjusted because we're

2988
02:33:49,101 --> 02:33:50,871
having you know,
some development

2989
02:33:50,871 --> 02:33:55,851
and just along the whole idea.

2990
02:33:55,851 --> 02:33:59,331
So I just want to clarify I want
to reassure Robert already went

2991
02:33:59,331 --> 02:34:02,151
through the difference between
a pretty and a T. You see,

2992
02:34:02,151 --> 02:34:04,971
this is a legal route that
they're allowed to take

2993
02:34:04,971 --> 02:34:06,711
Whether I like it or not.

2994
02:34:06,711 --> 02:34:07,941
You're allowed to do it.

2995
02:34:07,941 --> 02:34:10,311
I personally think
after seeing this,

2996
02:34:10,311 --> 02:34:11,511
I think it's a great project.

2997
02:34:11,511 --> 02:34:19,581
I appreciate you listening
and moving those setbacks back

2998
02:34:19,581 --> 02:34:24,081
a little bit further The
current policy allows

2999
02:34:24,081 --> 02:34:27,368
for seven bonus or
eight with bonus,

3000
02:34:27,368 --> 02:34:28,932
seven allows seven floors.

3001
02:34:28,932 --> 02:34:31,521
The back of this is four.

3002
02:34:31,521 --> 02:34:35,001
He showed a description
of the sightlines

3003
02:34:35,001 --> 02:34:39,201
and I think this
satisfies just about

3004
02:34:39,201 --> 02:34:44,421
every single concern carries
may not be entirely happy.

3005
02:34:44,421 --> 02:34:46,491
I think it's definitely
you're giving a thumbs up.

3006
02:34:46,491 --> 02:34:51,861
So for the record, it's a
thumbs up from a from one

3007
02:34:51,861 --> 02:34:53,061
of the couriers.

3008
02:34:53,061 --> 02:34:58,941
So Oh, and I think it's
a really happy medium.

3009
02:34:58,941 --> 02:35:02,241
We have a job to do of
what's best for the city.

3010
02:35:02,241 --> 02:35:05,608
And I always try to
make the decision.

3011
02:35:05,608 --> 02:35:08,391
What's best for the
majority of the city

3012
02:35:08,391 --> 02:35:10,461
will never please every
single person I know.

3013
02:35:10,461 --> 02:35:16,761
Someone earlier spoke
about it did an entrance,

3014
02:35:16,761 --> 02:35:17,991
someone else spoke up.

3015
02:35:17,991 --> 02:35:20,219
Yes, there are a few
a few houses away.

3016
02:35:20,219 --> 02:35:22,761
The no matter what
we do up here we

3017
02:35:22,761 --> 02:35:24,831
will never satisfy
100% of the people.

3018
02:35:24,831 --> 02:35:26,861
And unfortunately,
that's the way it is.

3019
02:35:26,861 --> 02:35:27,698
I try to.

3020
02:35:27,698 --> 02:35:29,755
And in all my
decisions, I try to.

3021
02:35:29,755 --> 02:35:32,961
I think this is a really
good project for the city,

3022
02:35:32,961 --> 02:35:34,971
especially with the
additional setbacks

3023
02:35:34,971 --> 02:35:36,591
only being four stories.

3024
02:35:36,591 --> 02:35:38,901
I was never fond of the seven
stories that we allowed.

3025
02:35:38,901 --> 02:35:41,541
There So again, I
want to thank all

3026
02:35:41,541 --> 02:35:44,061
the residents for coming out for
this We have another reading.

3027
02:35:44,061 --> 02:35:45,861
I want to hear from you.

3028
02:35:45,861 --> 02:35:48,201
But again and thank
you for city staff

3029
02:35:48,201 --> 02:35:51,321
and for the developer for
bringing this what seems to be

3030
02:35:51,321 --> 02:35:53,961
a really nice
project into our city

3031
02:35:53,961 --> 02:35:57,021
and renovating and refurbishing
and refreshing what's

3032
02:35:57,021 --> 02:35:58,671
already there existing.

3033
02:35:58,671 --> 02:36:02,361
So building a is the
heart of what drive

3034
02:36:02,361 --> 02:36:05,091
And so I appreciate you coming
in and not wanting to do

3035
02:36:05,091 --> 02:36:06,831
anything except make it better.

3036
02:36:06,831 --> 02:36:09,171
So for me, that's
really really important.

3037
02:36:09,171 --> 02:36:11,181
You said that word to
change that could change

3038
02:36:11,181 --> 02:36:12,741
the fabric of our
entire community

3039
02:36:12,741 --> 02:36:14,511
and we've heard
people talk there

3040
02:36:14,511 --> 02:36:16,431
and public comments earlier.

3041
02:36:16,431 --> 02:36:17,721
This is the community
that we have

3042
02:36:17,721 --> 02:36:19,011
and we need to be
fighting for it.

3043
02:36:19,011 --> 02:36:20,751
And I hope you'll
be partners in that

3044
02:36:20,751 --> 02:36:26,091
and supporting our community
going forward Yeah, well, yes, I

3045
02:36:26,091 --> 02:36:32,511
want to really express my thanks
to styles to Janice and to Tim,

3046
02:36:32,511 --> 02:36:34,671
because i've had
discussions with all three

3047
02:36:34,671 --> 02:36:37,761
of these gentlemen from the
very beginning of this project.

3048
02:36:37,761 --> 02:36:39,471
And the one thing
I talked to Ben

3049
02:36:39,471 --> 02:36:42,891
about early on, we had a
meeting when it was only 25ft.

3050
02:36:42,891 --> 02:36:46,701
The setback And I know he wasn't
happy because I said I didn't

3051
02:36:46,701 --> 02:36:50,721
think that would work but I
but I said, let's keep talking

3052
02:36:50,721 --> 02:36:52,461
and let's keep
having a discussion.

3053
02:36:52,461 --> 02:36:56,061
And we did We had I
don't know if this

3054
02:36:56,061 --> 02:36:58,131
is the time for the
ex parte communication

3055
02:36:58,131 --> 02:36:59,571
or we do that the next meeting.

3056
02:36:59,571 --> 02:37:02,018
It's not a question of
it's not quasi judicial.

3057
02:37:02,018 --> 02:37:03,381
Okay.

3058
02:37:03,381 --> 02:37:07,461
So i appreciate
working with the city

3059
02:37:07,461 --> 02:37:10,761
and addressing some
of the concerns.

3060
02:37:10,761 --> 02:37:14,691
I live on that street, so I hear
it every single day from some

3061
02:37:14,691 --> 02:37:16,791
of the neighbors over there.

3062
02:37:16,791 --> 02:37:17,571
Okay.

3063
02:37:17,571 --> 02:37:19,731
I walk my dog this
morning and got an earful.

3064
02:37:19,731 --> 02:37:24,286
But I did We did talked.

3065
02:37:24,286 --> 02:37:27,351
I think I talked to Dennis
about trying to go back

3066
02:37:27,351 --> 02:37:29,811
to move it from 35 to 40ft.

3067
02:37:29,811 --> 02:37:32,361
If we could I know you lowered
the height of the building

3068
02:37:32,361 --> 02:37:33,381
on that side.

3069
02:37:33,381 --> 02:37:35,331
You put the planters
on the balcony.

3070
02:37:35,331 --> 02:37:39,021
So I from a working
with a developer for I

3071
02:37:39,021 --> 02:37:41,691
think this has been a
really good relationship.

3072
02:37:41,691 --> 02:37:44,841
You've taken into consideration
all of our concerns.

3073
02:37:44,841 --> 02:37:48,441
You've taken into consideration
the concerns of the residents

3074
02:37:48,441 --> 02:37:50,841
And like Mike said,
not everybody's

3075
02:37:50,841 --> 02:37:52,913
going to be 100%
happy, but we need

3076
02:37:52,913 --> 02:37:56,781
to do what's best in the
broader vision of the city.

3077
02:37:56,781 --> 02:37:59,451
And I just want to be
clear that supporting

3078
02:37:59,451 --> 02:38:02,811
a responsible developer is
not the same as being proud

3079
02:38:02,811 --> 02:38:03,771
developer.

3080
02:38:03,771 --> 02:38:06,621
And I think that you guys
are responsible developers

3081
02:38:06,621 --> 02:38:10,063
and my responsibility would be
to determine whether project

3082
02:38:10,063 --> 02:38:11,188
benefits to community.

3083
02:38:11,188 --> 02:38:12,771
And I think this one does.

3084
02:38:12,771 --> 02:38:15,871
And thank you, Don.

3085
02:38:15,871 --> 02:38:16,371
Sure.

3086
02:38:16,371 --> 02:38:18,561
I agree with a lot
of the comments

3087
02:38:18,561 --> 02:38:21,741
that our last two
commissioners made We

3088
02:38:21,741 --> 02:38:25,161
have not had a condominium in
our city, a new condominium.

3089
02:38:25,161 --> 02:38:26,541
I believe the last
one was Walton

3090
02:38:26,541 --> 02:38:28,461
Station, almost 20 years ago.

3091
02:38:28,461 --> 02:38:30,711
And I can't tell you how
many residents have asked

3092
02:38:30,711 --> 02:38:33,201
me or people that want
to move here saying you

3093
02:38:33,201 --> 02:38:34,281
know, where else can I look?

3094
02:38:34,281 --> 02:38:35,331
We'd like a new condo.

3095
02:38:35,331 --> 02:38:36,891
And we don't have any.

3096
02:38:36,891 --> 02:38:41,511
So I think this clearly
satisfies the need.

3097
02:38:41,511 --> 02:38:43,431
The last project
that we approved

3098
02:38:43,431 --> 02:38:44,781
was the one we're project.

3099
02:38:44,781 --> 02:38:46,581
It was much more dense.

3100
02:38:46,581 --> 02:38:51,681
It was 250 to rental
units versus 89

3101
02:38:51,681 --> 02:38:54,111
ownership opportunity units.

3102
02:38:54,111 --> 02:38:56,402
That was a mixed
use building This is

3103
02:38:56,402 --> 02:39:00,868
and what I do like,
I do like that

3104
02:39:00,868 --> 02:39:03,981
a adjacent to the
single family homes

3105
02:39:03,981 --> 02:39:05,691
is really strictly residential.

3106
02:39:05,691 --> 02:39:07,491
You're not going to
have commercial there.

3107
02:39:07,491 --> 02:39:10,461
And I think it's a really good
idea from a noise perspective

3108
02:39:10,461 --> 02:39:12,501
that people in the
residential building

3109
02:39:12,501 --> 02:39:15,681
do not have commercial
and noise and restaurant

3110
02:39:15,681 --> 02:39:17,541
in their building.

3111
02:39:17,541 --> 02:39:21,021
So I think that that's a
huge plus This building,

3112
02:39:21,021 --> 02:39:26,571
this proposal over the last
one, I guess from a traffic

3113
02:39:26,571 --> 02:39:28,521
perspective of
generates much less

3114
02:39:28,521 --> 02:39:32,511
traffic I think that
there's a lot of advantages.

3115
02:39:32,511 --> 02:39:33,921
I think it's a great project.

3116
02:39:33,921 --> 02:39:36,351
I appreciate everyone's
efforts in trying

3117
02:39:36,351 --> 02:39:40,521
to work with the commission
I think you did listen to us.

3118
02:39:40,521 --> 02:39:42,111
I appreciate that.

3119
02:39:42,111 --> 02:39:45,951
And i think you listen
to the neighbors

3120
02:39:45,951 --> 02:39:48,951
So hopefully we can
move forward with this.

3121
02:39:48,951 --> 02:39:54,831
I hope everyone is happy with
the end result. And you know,

3122
02:39:54,831 --> 02:39:59,061
I do think it's worthwhile
and good project for community

3123
02:39:59,061 --> 02:39:59,571
as a whole.

3124
02:39:59,571 --> 02:40:05,331
So thank you, Benjamin
So thank you to Dennis

3125
02:40:05,331 --> 02:40:07,094
and the team from Styles.

3126
02:40:07,094 --> 02:40:08,661
Dennis we've worked with
you on projects before

3127
02:40:08,661 --> 02:40:09,861
and I've always thought
because you're just always

3128
02:40:09,861 --> 02:40:11,061
an honest person,
we could always

3129
02:40:11,061 --> 02:40:12,681
trust the things that you said.

3130
02:40:12,681 --> 02:40:15,201
I remember when I stood next
to you and your earshot nice

3131
02:40:15,201 --> 02:40:17,511
and I said to you, But
so you could hear it.

3132
02:40:17,511 --> 02:40:18,711
I don't want to talk to anybody.

3133
02:40:18,711 --> 02:40:21,255
And, with this set back the way
it is, it's a nonstarter for me.

3134
02:40:21,255 --> 02:40:22,892
And I didn't hear from
you, which is unusual.

3135
02:40:22,892 --> 02:40:24,082
But I can hear from
you because you

3136
02:40:24,082 --> 02:40:25,551
knew it was going
nowhere with the setback

3137
02:40:25,551 --> 02:40:26,972
as it was I didn't
hear from you and tell.

3138
02:40:26,972 --> 02:40:27,472
I don't know.

3139
02:40:27,472 --> 02:40:29,931
Was it today or yesterday
or whatever it was.

3140
02:40:29,931 --> 02:40:32,991
And i was going to say that
even though I'm saying yes,

3141
02:40:32,991 --> 02:40:33,941
are we going to say yes now?

3142
02:40:33,941 --> 02:40:35,841
It was sort of holding back
to talk to the residents that

3143
02:40:35,841 --> 02:40:36,741
are affected.

3144
02:40:36,741 --> 02:40:38,571
I saw a thumbs up,
which is a good sign.

3145
02:40:38,571 --> 02:40:40,581
You know, I think
it is important

3146
02:40:40,581 --> 02:40:44,451
that we honor what the intent
is of the rules that we set

3147
02:40:44,451 --> 02:40:45,711
or we change the rules.

3148
02:40:45,711 --> 02:40:48,111
And so I you know I
firmly believe that this

3149
02:40:48,111 --> 02:40:49,431
honors the intent of those.

3150
02:40:49,431 --> 02:40:52,041
And if the residents applaud it,
and I love that, you know, we're

3151
02:40:52,041 --> 02:40:55,485
going to be flexible and working
this so that we you know,

3152
02:40:55,485 --> 02:40:57,501
if the tenants want us to
hold off on the improvements,

3153
02:40:57,501 --> 02:40:59,031
we're going to do
what they want.

3154
02:40:59,031 --> 02:41:01,491
You know, I appreciate the
things you've done because you

3155
02:41:01,491 --> 02:41:03,501
could have gone
to seven stories,

3156
02:41:03,501 --> 02:41:05,145
you know, all the
way to the edge.

3157
02:41:05,145 --> 02:41:06,468
There's a lot of
things that could

3158
02:41:06,468 --> 02:41:08,811
have been done that,
you know frankly,

3159
02:41:08,811 --> 02:41:09,826
for probably make more money.

3160
02:41:09,826 --> 02:41:11,752
But you realize this
makes more sense for us.

3161
02:41:11,752 --> 02:41:13,606
So I just want to
appreciate that I know,

3162
02:41:13,606 --> 02:41:14,939
there's a lot of
places you can develop.

3163
02:41:14,939 --> 02:41:19,231
We're happy that you're
interested in developing here I

3164
02:41:19,231 --> 02:41:20,631
know somebody said
there a couple of years

3165
02:41:20,631 --> 02:41:24,021
said that we've done nothing as
far as developing in the city.

3166
02:41:24,021 --> 02:41:27,670
We have done our pasta lot
of projects in this city

3167
02:41:27,670 --> 02:41:29,905
that has not gone through.

3168
02:41:29,905 --> 02:41:33,081
That's not our fault. You
know, they come to us.

3169
02:41:33,081 --> 02:41:34,341
They said it's the
project we make

3170
02:41:34,341 --> 02:41:35,631
changes like we've
been trying to do

3171
02:41:35,631 --> 02:41:38,511
with you guys and the economy.

3172
02:41:38,511 --> 02:41:42,681
Sometimes does it to them Right
now I know building costs have

3173
02:41:42,681 --> 02:41:46,041
gone up 30, 35%, which is huge.

3174
02:41:46,041 --> 02:41:49,731
So I understand why the
hotel is not going just yet.

3175
02:41:49,731 --> 02:41:52,521
But I talked to
them today and i got

3176
02:41:52,521 --> 02:41:54,441
a little more positive
news that they could

3177
02:41:54,441 --> 02:41:56,901
be happening sooner than later.

3178
02:41:56,901 --> 02:41:57,561
Now.

3179
02:41:57,561 --> 02:42:01,491
And on the drive they're
going to put in commercial

3180
02:42:01,491 --> 02:42:04,071
And I've had people
say before, well, we

3181
02:42:04,071 --> 02:42:06,681
have to do something about
what we drive because there's

3182
02:42:06,681 --> 02:42:08,931
rent spaces everywhere.

3183
02:42:08,931 --> 02:42:13,281
There's not you know, there
could be because of the fact

3184
02:42:13,281 --> 02:42:15,231
that people pay a lot of rent.

3185
02:42:15,231 --> 02:42:17,151
And what matters for
their businesses.

3186
02:42:17,151 --> 02:42:18,591
A lot of rent.

3187
02:42:18,591 --> 02:42:21,753
And somehow I don't know how
some of them actually do it,

3188
02:42:21,753 --> 02:42:24,621
and part of that reason
is people buy the property

3189
02:42:24,621 --> 02:42:27,981
for too much money They think
they're going to make you know,

3190
02:42:27,981 --> 02:42:29,001
a lot of money off of it.

3191
02:42:29,001 --> 02:42:29,691
And they buy it.

3192
02:42:29,691 --> 02:42:31,168
And then they start
telling people,

3193
02:42:31,168 --> 02:42:32,301
now we're going
to raise your rent

3194
02:42:32,301 --> 02:42:36,096
for some of the ones that
grilled cheese on on the drive.

3195
02:42:36,096 --> 02:42:38,612
You know, they moved
out because of the rent.

3196
02:42:38,612 --> 02:42:42,436
And that's not our fault
That's people that buy.

3197
02:42:42,436 --> 02:42:43,733
This is the property.

3198
02:42:43,733 --> 02:42:45,561
And then have to make a profit.

3199
02:42:45,561 --> 02:42:47,451
So they raise it up
so much that they

3200
02:42:47,451 --> 02:42:51,081
cannot survive there So shame on
some of the people that do that.

3201
02:42:51,081 --> 02:42:55,289
This group here, I think you're
a little crazy because Styles,

3202
02:42:55,289 --> 02:42:57,422
I think way before you
were even on there been.

3203
02:42:57,422 --> 02:43:01,131
But bought that property
for a lot less money

3204
02:43:01,131 --> 02:43:02,871
and then they sold it,
sold it to somebody else.

3205
02:43:02,871 --> 02:43:07,044
And then you guys bought in
back for a lot more money

3206
02:43:07,044 --> 02:43:11,691
But the id, the projects that
you want to do here are good.

3207
02:43:11,691 --> 02:43:15,426
I last time you were up here,
I know I called you and said,

3208
02:43:15,426 --> 02:43:21,501
it's not going to work You know
I look at things like I'm living

3209
02:43:21,501 --> 02:43:24,531
where the couriers
live, you know I know

3210
02:43:24,531 --> 02:43:26,061
I bought next to commercial.

3211
02:43:26,061 --> 02:43:29,301
I know eventually
something will be built

3212
02:43:29,301 --> 02:43:33,681
but I still don't want
it affect my my, my style

3213
02:43:33,681 --> 02:43:35,331
any more than it has to.

3214
02:43:35,331 --> 02:43:39,321
And I thank you for sitting
down the last few weeks.

3215
02:43:39,321 --> 02:43:42,277
And I know there's One person
in the front row that's probably

3216
02:43:42,277 --> 02:43:45,798
not very happy at all still
because he wanted the 25ft,

3217
02:43:45,798 --> 02:43:47,841
but i won't mention their name
and won't put it out there.

3218
02:43:47,841 --> 02:43:51,501
But but we've all
come to a consensus

3219
02:43:51,501 --> 02:43:54,381
and I think this project
is going to go through.

3220
02:43:54,381 --> 02:43:57,861
I hope it will And I want all of
you to be back here in the first

3221
02:43:57,861 --> 02:43:59,571
meeting in September, I
guess, is when we'll come

3222
02:43:59,571 --> 02:44:07,671
back or 2nd October
second one and October,

3223
02:44:07,671 --> 02:44:08,877
September September.

3224
02:44:08,877 --> 02:44:11,471
So I thought, you know
1st or 2nd September,

3225
02:44:11,471 --> 02:44:18,111
if you can talk in the
microphone does anybody know who

3226
02:44:18,111 --> 02:44:22,071
it's on when it does
come up When do you

3227
02:44:22,071 --> 02:44:23,549
think it might come back to it?

3228
02:44:23,549 --> 02:44:26,421
Because, I mean, you've got
to make some slight changes

3229
02:44:26,421 --> 02:44:28,011
here and there or
whatever Do you think

3230
02:44:28,011 --> 02:44:30,171
september 22nd would work?

3231
02:44:30,171 --> 02:44:37,325
You have to I, I think I'm going
to have to meet with her burden

3232
02:44:37,325 --> 02:44:38,391
right in the future.

3233
02:44:38,391 --> 02:44:41,391
When you come back for second
reading help all of you

3234
02:44:41,391 --> 02:44:44,421
come back and have
your comments.

3235
02:44:44,421 --> 02:44:46,761
I mean, this is what this
commission has always been.

3236
02:44:46,761 --> 02:44:47,901
It's not about what we want.

3237
02:44:47,901 --> 02:44:49,402
It's about what the
community wants.

3238
02:44:49,402 --> 02:44:50,737
And obviously, it's worked.

3239
02:44:50,737 --> 02:44:54,051
We worked together here
today and and I haven't seen

3240
02:44:54,051 --> 02:44:55,431
me pounding their fist tonight.

3241
02:44:55,431 --> 02:44:57,056
So that's a good thing.

3242
02:44:57,056 --> 02:44:58,821
So i thank all of you
for coming out tonight

3243
02:44:58,821 --> 02:45:03,201
to see what's going on in your
community So with that call,

3244
02:45:03,201 --> 02:45:07,881
a question, please
Commissioner Dami, you Yes.

3245
02:45:07,881 --> 02:45:08,871
Vice Mayor Caputo.

3246
02:45:08,871 --> 02:45:09,681
Yes.

3247
02:45:09,681 --> 02:45:11,226
Commissioner Brockie Yes.

3248
02:45:11,226 --> 02:45:15,021
Commissioner Rowley
Yes Mayor Newark, Yes.

3249
02:45:15,021 --> 02:45:15,741
Good luck.

3250
02:45:15,741 --> 02:45:23,661
We'll see you in a
month We'll take care.

3251
02:45:23,661 --> 02:45:26,462
32nd break while
they all get out.

3252
02:45:26,462 --> 02:45:27,382
Oh, well, a lot of people.

3253
02:45:27,382 --> 02:45:31,911
Yeah our staff will be left with
a table for the next meeting

3254
02:45:31,911 --> 02:45:35,904
Everything Oh, yeah.

3255
02:45:35,904 --> 02:45:42,411
That will take care if you
just please exit the chamber.

3256
02:45:42,411 --> 02:45:46,020
Please I know you're
going home, but we

3257
02:45:46,020 --> 02:45:47,358
still have business to do here.

3258
02:45:47,358 --> 02:45:47,931
Thank you.

3259
02:45:47,931 --> 02:45:54,992
You All right, stop
hugging and get out.

3260
02:45:54,992 --> 02:45:55,537
Ben.

3261
02:45:55,537 --> 02:45:56,626
Hey, Peloton.

3262
02:45:56,626 --> 02:45:59,871
Let's go Go say hello
outside, please.

3263
02:45:59,871 --> 02:46:01,581
I think I want to make
some meetings, though.

3264
02:46:01,581 --> 02:46:05,158
Yeah, The meeting
is not over yet

3265
02:46:05,158 --> 02:46:06,291
but everything
they care about is.

3266
02:46:06,291 --> 02:46:12,658
Yeah, Everything I care about
is in that I may have to turn

3267
02:46:12,658 --> 02:46:13,491
off the air conditioning.

3268
02:46:13,491 --> 02:46:27,282
You still don't know.

3269
02:46:27,282 --> 02:46:28,117
Where am I?

3270
02:46:28,117 --> 02:46:28,617
Here.

3271
02:46:28,617 --> 02:46:31,971
All right Unfinished
business Leaving

3272
02:46:31,971 --> 02:46:34,021
for an unfinished business.

3273
02:46:34,021 --> 02:46:34,521
Harry.

3274
02:46:34,521 --> 02:46:37,851
None of the one city
manager's report.

3275
02:46:37,851 --> 02:46:38,541
Thank you.

3276
02:46:38,541 --> 02:46:42,171
New business The
bid for process.

3277
02:46:42,171 --> 02:46:44,571
We're getting rid
of that tonight.

3278
02:46:44,571 --> 02:46:45,921
The next three items.

3279
02:46:45,921 --> 02:46:49,521
City manager city
attorney City attorney.

3280
02:46:49,521 --> 02:46:50,391
Yes, sir.

3281
02:46:50,391 --> 02:46:55,641
We got items 13
b, c and the we're

3282
02:46:55,641 --> 02:47:01,281
requesting for or authorization
to in this initiate foreclosure

3283
02:47:01,281 --> 02:47:02,871
actions on three properties.

3284
02:47:02,871 --> 02:47:05,271
I'll go through
them individually

3285
02:47:05,271 --> 02:47:08,871
There's one change to the
last property with one

3286
02:47:08,871 --> 02:47:11,631
of the cases we're not
recommending foreclosure on.

3287
02:47:11,631 --> 02:47:15,336
And I'll get to I'm sorry.

3288
02:47:15,336 --> 02:47:15,836
OK.

3289
02:47:15,836 --> 02:47:17,574
Oh I be surprised.

3290
02:47:17,574 --> 02:47:22,491
Okay One of the cases in the
three case against the property.

3291
02:47:22,491 --> 02:47:23,071
I got it.

3292
02:47:23,071 --> 02:47:23,571
I got it.

3293
02:47:23,571 --> 02:47:24,181
Yeah.

3294
02:47:24,181 --> 02:47:24,681
All right.

3295
02:47:24,681 --> 02:47:26,619
So we're going to start
with property address.

3296
02:47:26,619 --> 02:47:28,820
Two, three, four, Nine.

3297
02:47:28,820 --> 02:47:30,379
Northwest ninth Avenue.

3298
02:47:30,379 --> 02:47:32,241
That's in wilton Manors.

3299
02:47:32,241 --> 02:47:37,581
We've done our due diligence and
read litigation review on that.

3300
02:47:37,581 --> 02:47:43,881
There's one case number
24 hyphen 002952.

3301
02:47:43,881 --> 02:47:54,111
The property is has a lane
approximately in excess

3302
02:47:54,111 --> 02:47:59,091
of $125,000 as of July.

3303
02:47:59,091 --> 02:48:05,781
It's continue doing to rise Let
me make sure that's true that

3304
02:48:05,781 --> 02:48:13,371
that one's not in compliance
all this ready you don't think

3305
02:48:13,371 --> 02:48:16,281
it's not the value
of the property

3306
02:48:16,281 --> 02:48:23,031
according to BCP is $699,000.

3307
02:48:23,031 --> 02:48:28,401
There is a lane recorded by
the city of pompano Beach,

3308
02:48:28,401 --> 02:48:31,911
but the city's lane
will take pro already

3309
02:48:31,911 --> 02:48:35,001
over the Pompano Beach lane.

3310
02:48:35,001 --> 02:48:37,071
Is there any mortgage or loan?

3311
02:48:37,071 --> 02:48:42,621
I'm sorry, mortgage, mortgage
or loan on it There is

3312
02:48:42,621 --> 02:48:45,111
a the property taxes are paid.

3313
02:48:45,111 --> 02:48:53,991
There is um, scheduled just
to make sure before I say yes

3314
02:48:53,991 --> 02:48:58,611
to that all these questions
are going to be asked

3315
02:48:58,611 --> 02:48:59,901
and every one of
you ever come here?

3316
02:48:59,901 --> 02:49:02,001
No, no, I know.

3317
02:49:02,001 --> 02:49:20,631
I just want to be accurate
when I say it there is not So

3318
02:49:20,631 --> 02:49:24,741
we are recommending and
proceeding with the floor

3319
02:49:24,741 --> 02:49:25,821
foreclosure on that.

3320
02:49:25,821 --> 02:49:27,831
Is there a motion, a motion?

3321
02:49:27,831 --> 02:49:29,013
Is there a second Second.

3322
02:49:29,013 --> 02:49:32,007
That's for the 2349
Northwest ninth Avenue.

3323
02:49:32,007 --> 02:49:33,651
What manners properties.

3324
02:49:33,651 --> 02:49:34,161
Correct.

3325
02:49:34,161 --> 02:49:35,661
Any discussion?

3326
02:49:35,661 --> 02:49:40,251
No Got a question,
Commissioner Yes.

3327
02:49:40,251 --> 02:49:46,941
Yes yes, yes yes.

3328
02:49:46,941 --> 02:49:48,831
See 27, 33.

3329
02:49:48,831 --> 02:49:52,801
North Enders Avenue
So the next one is 27.

3330
02:49:52,801 --> 02:49:53,301
33.

3331
02:49:53,301 --> 02:49:58,191
North Andrews There's two cases
involved in this property.

3332
02:49:58,191 --> 02:50:00,951
We've done our pre
litigation review

3333
02:50:00,951 --> 02:50:05,541
and are recommending that
we proceed with foreclosure

3334
02:50:05,541 --> 02:50:11,871
Our notices were reviewed and
sent properly under chapter 162.

3335
02:50:11,871 --> 02:50:15,171
Additionally, notice was
posted and provide it

3336
02:50:15,171 --> 02:50:18,261
with the proof of
posting through the code

3337
02:50:18,261 --> 02:50:20,481
enforcement process.

3338
02:50:20,481 --> 02:50:27,831
The lane for number one was
recorded back in June of 25

3339
02:50:27,831 --> 02:50:34,011
and the lane number two was
recorded in November of 2025

3340
02:50:34,011 --> 02:50:37,191
The first lane was
at $250 per day.

3341
02:50:37,191 --> 02:50:41,781
It's a proximately
$36,000 outstanding thing.

3342
02:50:41,781 --> 02:50:46,011
And the second lane is
also at $250 per day and is

3343
02:50:46,011 --> 02:50:50,781
at approximately $76,000.

3344
02:50:50,781 --> 02:50:52,101
The property is not exempt.

3345
02:50:52,101 --> 02:50:53,871
The taxes are current.

3346
02:50:53,871 --> 02:50:56,391
The total market
value of that property

3347
02:50:56,391 --> 02:51:01,311
is approximately $687,000.

3348
02:51:01,311 --> 02:51:03,921
There are no superior
interest in this

3349
02:51:03,921 --> 02:51:06,711
and we recommend moving
forward on length.

3350
02:51:06,711 --> 02:51:09,321
One end to right is
our motion for property

3351
02:51:09,321 --> 02:51:11,031
at 2733 North Andrews Avenue.

3352
02:51:11,031 --> 02:51:12,004
A motion.

3353
02:51:12,004 --> 02:51:13,625
Is there a second.

3354
02:51:13,625 --> 02:51:17,901
Second discussion, then call
the question Vice mayor Caputo.

3355
02:51:17,901 --> 02:51:19,201
Yes, Commissioner Rowley.

3356
02:51:19,201 --> 02:51:19,701
Yes.

3357
02:51:19,701 --> 02:51:22,221
Commissioner Rocky
commissioner Dami Neo Yes.

3358
02:51:22,221 --> 02:51:23,961
Amir newton Yes.

3359
02:51:23,961 --> 02:51:27,721
Property located at 36.

3360
02:51:27,721 --> 02:51:28,221
All right.

3361
02:51:28,221 --> 02:51:31,779
This property is the
one I mentioned earlier,

3362
02:51:31,779 --> 02:51:36,411
where recommend moving
forward on two of the lanes

3363
02:51:36,411 --> 02:51:39,591
There's three lanes total
against the property that have

3364
02:51:39,591 --> 02:51:47,031
been recorded Lane One is
valued at approximately $154,000

3365
02:51:47,031 --> 02:51:52,191
in lane three is a value that
approximately 38,000 for lane

3366
02:51:52,191 --> 02:51:57,141
two We are not
recommending moving

3367
02:51:57,141 --> 02:52:00,751
forward with that
due to potential

3368
02:52:00,751 --> 02:52:03,050
issues with the service.

3369
02:52:03,050 --> 02:52:05,753
And it's not needed
for us to move forward.

3370
02:52:05,753 --> 02:52:08,379
We want to make sure we
have the best case possible.

3371
02:52:08,379 --> 02:52:12,441
So we're not recommending
moving forward with that.

3372
02:52:12,441 --> 02:52:16,101
As far as the other two lanes,
the notice was were provided

3373
02:52:16,101 --> 02:52:19,371
consistent with chapter 162.

3374
02:52:19,371 --> 02:52:20,905
I mean, there was
additional service

3375
02:52:20,905 --> 02:52:23,421
by posting city
Hall, an affidavit

3376
02:52:23,421 --> 02:52:29,331
opposing presented to the
magistrate for those two cases.

3377
02:52:29,331 --> 02:52:33,459
Lane one was recorded
on December 9th of 2020.

3378
02:52:33,459 --> 02:52:38,211
For Lane three, he
was recorded in May 7,

3379
02:52:38,211 --> 02:52:43,653
2026 As I stated
before, the value is 4,

3380
02:52:43,653 --> 02:52:48,651
lane One in lane three are
154,030 8,000, and the property

3381
02:52:48,651 --> 02:52:50,721
is not claimed as exempt.

3382
02:52:50,721 --> 02:52:53,571
The taxes are
current as of 2025.

3383
02:52:53,571 --> 02:52:56,901
The total market value
according to backpay

3384
02:52:56,901 --> 02:53:03,411
is approximate $642,810.

3385
02:53:03,411 --> 02:53:07,851
We have reviewed the report
for the foreclosure There was

3386
02:53:07,851 --> 02:53:13,071
a mortgage recorded before
arlene's by the F h business

3387
02:53:13,071 --> 02:53:16,080
on February Fourth, 2009.

3388
02:53:16,080 --> 02:53:20,211
The principal amount
of that is $75,000.

3389
02:53:20,211 --> 02:53:23,451
There is no other legal
impediments for impediments.

3390
02:53:23,451 --> 02:53:26,001
We're moving forward
with the foreclosure,

3391
02:53:26,001 --> 02:53:29,901
but we must make a decision
And regarding the outstanding

3392
02:53:29,901 --> 02:53:36,741
mortgage and the value, as
I stated as far as equity

3393
02:53:36,741 --> 02:53:41,541
is concern is $567,810.

3394
02:53:41,541 --> 02:53:43,976
Okay, I'm ready to
make a motion on 3061

3395
02:53:43,976 --> 02:53:49,606
Northeast Fourth Avenue manners
excluding the code number two.

3396
02:53:49,606 --> 02:53:51,844
All right Yes,
I'll make a motion.

3397
02:53:51,844 --> 02:53:52,521
You're second.

3398
02:53:52,521 --> 02:53:54,621
Second and any
discussion I do, I

3399
02:53:54,621 --> 02:53:57,171
have a discussion
about the billing

3400
02:53:57,171 --> 02:53:59,421
that you talked about may
not have accurate service.

3401
02:53:59,421 --> 02:54:03,561
So just so I understand, three
lanes, two of services Fine.

3402
02:54:03,561 --> 02:54:07,401
You're recommending moving
forward The third lean

3403
02:54:07,401 --> 02:54:09,741
there may be some
service issues there

3404
02:54:09,741 --> 02:54:12,207
could be a potential defense.

3405
02:54:12,207 --> 02:54:16,881
And it's not needed in order
to foreclose the property

3406
02:54:16,881 --> 02:54:18,591
with the values of
what we're claiming,

3407
02:54:18,591 --> 02:54:23,199
just so that we can eliminate
potential defenses by.

3408
02:54:23,199 --> 02:54:26,811
So we can move forward
just based on the other two

3409
02:54:26,811 --> 02:54:30,381
correct defenses Are we still
able to collect on that other

3410
02:54:30,381 --> 02:54:33,471
lean if there are surplus
funds, are you think

3411
02:54:33,471 --> 02:54:37,581
the whole entire lean is would
be invalid due to the service

3412
02:54:37,581 --> 02:54:43,131
issue I don't think
it's totally invalid,

3413
02:54:43,131 --> 02:54:45,021
but there may be
questions as to that.

3414
02:54:45,021 --> 02:54:49,101
So there may be opportunities
to collect on that.

3415
02:54:49,101 --> 02:54:51,321
But as far as thinking,
if we can collect on it,

3416
02:54:51,321 --> 02:54:53,151
not so much is I
don't want to use

3417
02:54:53,151 --> 02:54:54,861
it for the foreclosure action.

3418
02:54:54,861 --> 02:54:57,471
I don't want to have to
put up valid defenses

3419
02:54:57,471 --> 02:54:58,735
against one claim.

3420
02:54:58,735 --> 02:54:59,931
Right on Lean.

3421
02:54:59,931 --> 02:55:02,451
But I want to if we could
actually still collect on it

3422
02:55:02,451 --> 02:55:05,331
if the money comes in, satisfies
the mortgage and the other liens

3423
02:55:05,331 --> 02:55:11,241
that we have the second lane is
valued at approximately $36,000.

3424
02:55:11,241 --> 02:55:13,131
Yeah, but is saying is
if those are really not

3425
02:55:13,131 --> 02:55:14,071
a lot compared to the other.

3426
02:55:14,071 --> 02:55:14,571
Right.

3427
02:55:14,571 --> 02:55:17,181
Which is why we're not
recommending, you know.

3428
02:55:17,181 --> 02:55:20,571
Okay I could go for apart
part of what makes sense.

3429
02:55:20,571 --> 02:55:24,394
And any other discussion
Good question you're some

3430
02:55:24,394 --> 02:55:27,651
I'm sorry commissioner dami.

3431
02:55:27,651 --> 02:55:28,311
You.

3432
02:55:28,311 --> 02:55:28,851
Yes.

3433
02:55:28,851 --> 02:55:29,781
Vice Mayor Caputo.

3434
02:55:29,781 --> 02:55:31,971
Yes, Commissioner brockie Yes.

3435
02:55:31,971 --> 02:55:32,781
Commissioner Rowley.

3436
02:55:32,781 --> 02:55:33,381
Yes.

3437
02:55:33,381 --> 02:55:33,921
Your Newton?

3438
02:55:33,921 --> 02:55:34,461
Yes.

3439
02:55:34,461 --> 02:55:37,273
Request to fill a full
time customer service.

3440
02:55:37,273 --> 02:55:41,691
We're going to have vacancy
City Manager thank you.

3441
02:55:41,691 --> 02:55:43,371
We're still in the
process of bringing

3442
02:55:43,371 --> 02:55:47,421
back vacancies for commission
approval to fill this position.

3443
02:55:47,421 --> 02:55:50,151
Is the school customer
service representative

3444
02:55:50,151 --> 02:55:52,521
within our Community
Development Services Department

3445
02:55:52,521 --> 02:55:57,321
and it's primarily funded
through the building fund, which

3446
02:55:57,321 --> 02:56:01,341
is generated revenue
through building permit fees

3447
02:56:01,341 --> 02:56:03,651
and we find this to be
in a central position

3448
02:56:03,651 --> 02:56:07,311
and we're asking for approval
fill it So a motion to approve,

3449
02:56:07,311 --> 02:56:08,361
I'll make the motion there.

3450
02:56:08,361 --> 02:56:10,911
Second or second discussion.

3451
02:56:10,911 --> 02:56:12,441
I have just some questions.

3452
02:56:12,441 --> 02:56:14,961
I'm supportive of
this, but in general,

3453
02:56:14,961 --> 02:56:20,571
what are we doing in terms
of potentially a reception

3454
02:56:20,571 --> 02:56:24,261
as to be answering phone calls
or other types of technology

3455
02:56:24,261 --> 02:56:26,481
So these are phone
calls and what else

3456
02:56:26,481 --> 02:56:28,401
are we using technology
for that may be

3457
02:56:28,401 --> 02:56:30,231
able to optimize in the future?

3458
02:56:30,231 --> 02:56:31,101
Sure.

3459
02:56:31,101 --> 02:56:32,991
So for that department
in particular,

3460
02:56:32,991 --> 02:56:37,701
one of the ways we've been able
to curb the growth on staffing

3461
02:56:37,701 --> 02:56:42,861
or keep staffing numbers low
is through online services,

3462
02:56:42,861 --> 02:56:45,531
specifically online permitting.

3463
02:56:45,531 --> 02:56:48,471
For I customer service.

3464
02:56:48,471 --> 02:56:52,071
We're not there yet, but we've
established an A.I. committee

3465
02:56:52,071 --> 02:56:55,761
that has a consultant
working with us to bring

3466
02:56:55,761 --> 02:56:57,141
in more programs like that.

3467
02:56:57,141 --> 02:57:01,701
It's also part of our migration
into the office 365 is building

3468
02:57:01,701 --> 02:57:04,461
out all of our internal
data for a closed system

3469
02:57:04,461 --> 02:57:06,111
and for the
potential of bringing

3470
02:57:06,111 --> 02:57:09,171
in aI assisted customers,
or it's not just want

3471
02:57:09,171 --> 02:57:13,671
to make sure we're using even
like chat bots on the website,

3472
02:57:13,671 --> 02:57:16,248
like simple questions like
sometimes it's hard to navigate

3473
02:57:16,248 --> 02:57:18,351
would be nice if there's any
chat bot to be like, take me

3474
02:57:18,351 --> 02:57:21,057
here and okay, but
let's move forward

3475
02:57:21,057 --> 02:57:24,291
because any discussion
other call the question

3476
02:57:24,291 --> 02:57:25,851
Vice Mayor Caputo Yes.

3477
02:57:25,851 --> 02:57:27,141
Commissioner Rowley Yes.

3478
02:57:27,141 --> 02:57:28,461
Commissioner brockie Yes.

3479
02:57:28,461 --> 02:57:29,901
Commissioner Dami Yes.

3480
02:57:29,901 --> 02:57:30,951
Mayor Newton Yes.

3481
02:57:30,951 --> 02:57:33,021
Rules on agenda packets.

3482
02:57:33,021 --> 02:57:34,581
Mr. That was me very briefly.

3483
02:57:34,581 --> 02:57:38,961
So I know like for
an example tonight we

3484
02:57:38,961 --> 02:57:44,451
had that extra handout I would
like to see if anything is going

3485
02:57:44,451 --> 02:57:48,711
to be added to the dais that
for transparency purposes,

3486
02:57:48,711 --> 02:57:50,241
it's part of the agenda packet.

3487
02:57:50,241 --> 02:57:52,941
I know like at the previous
meeting, Mr. Caputo,

3488
02:57:52,941 --> 02:57:56,138
you provided a useful
tool for residents Never.

3489
02:57:56,138 --> 02:57:57,719
Yeah, they don't
get to see that.

3490
02:57:57,719 --> 02:58:00,321
So if we know we're going to
be doing something like that,

3491
02:58:00,321 --> 02:58:02,001
let's add it to
the agenda packet.

3492
02:58:02,001 --> 02:58:05,740
And then also would be good just
to know we were using yours.

3493
02:58:05,740 --> 02:58:06,533
Halfway through.

3494
02:58:06,533 --> 02:58:08,648
It wasn't provided
by staffs, it was

3495
02:58:08,648 --> 02:58:11,781
sitting It would be good to know
just what's like staff vetted.

3496
02:58:11,781 --> 02:58:14,264
Like if you want to provide
something or you or anyone

3497
02:58:14,264 --> 02:58:16,911
of us do that, that's the
only thing i would just ask

3498
02:58:16,911 --> 02:58:18,833
about Agenda packets
and I would like

3499
02:58:18,833 --> 02:58:20,151
to actually have like tonight.

3500
02:58:20,151 --> 02:58:22,634
I know it was probably late when
you got it, but at least make

3501
02:58:22,634 --> 02:58:23,822
copies for the back.

3502
02:58:23,822 --> 02:58:26,616
So people can have
it You know, it's

3503
02:58:26,616 --> 02:58:28,295
not I hope that was
inadvertently left out.

3504
02:58:28,295 --> 02:58:29,328
I know you didn't do it, right?

3505
02:58:29,328 --> 02:58:29,828
Yeah.

3506
02:58:29,828 --> 02:58:31,251
I wouldn't want to
table the whole things.

3507
02:58:31,251 --> 02:58:32,451
We didn't have that paper.

3508
02:58:32,451 --> 02:58:34,409
But when we know
about something,

3509
02:58:34,409 --> 02:58:37,426
it would be useful to
have it in advance.

3510
02:58:37,426 --> 02:58:38,029
OK.

3511
02:58:38,029 --> 02:58:39,361
Anybody for next meeting to put?

3512
02:58:39,361 --> 02:58:39,861
Yeah.

3513
02:58:39,861 --> 02:58:41,451
Maybe not the next
meeting, but I brought it

3514
02:58:41,451 --> 02:58:43,293
up before noise ordinance or.

3515
02:58:43,293 --> 02:58:43,793
Yes, right.

3516
02:58:43,793 --> 02:58:47,487
Yeah We need to
revisit to ensure.

3517
02:58:47,487 --> 02:58:48,741
Yeah With that.

3518
02:58:48,741 --> 02:58:51,401
Anybody else So I have
something that it.

3519
02:58:51,401 --> 02:58:52,892
It doesn't need to
be next meeting.

3520
02:58:52,892 --> 02:58:55,818
But maybe relevant You
know I, absolutely.

3521
02:58:55,818 --> 02:58:59,871
I did some calculations talked
to developer about the incentive

3522
02:58:59,871 --> 02:59:01,671
like, you know, the
incentives how you get

3523
02:59:01,671 --> 02:59:02,723
to the fifth and sixth story.

3524
02:59:02,723 --> 02:59:03,223
Right.

3525
02:59:03,223 --> 02:59:05,961
And the costs because they
have to do all incentives

3526
02:59:05,961 --> 02:59:08,331
from the calculations that
I've seen and from Roger,

3527
02:59:08,331 --> 02:59:11,241
you know they have some access
to some commercial estimation.

3528
02:59:11,241 --> 02:59:12,441
Everything I do says it.

3529
02:59:12,441 --> 02:59:14,331
It's more expense
They have to actually

3530
02:59:14,331 --> 02:59:16,071
take the incentive Yeah.

3531
02:59:16,071 --> 02:59:17,841
I mean, like in every
in every scenario,

3532
02:59:17,841 --> 02:59:20,658
it was more expensive which
I don't think was our intent.

3533
02:59:20,658 --> 02:59:21,891
So I don't know when
to look at that,

3534
02:59:21,891 --> 02:59:24,351
but I think it's something we
need to look at because it may

3535
02:59:24,351 --> 02:59:25,401
be counter what we intended.

3536
02:59:25,401 --> 02:59:28,671
I think that we talked about
bringing the height back

3537
02:59:28,671 --> 02:59:31,641
for another discussion and I'm
glad you brought that point up

3538
02:59:31,641 --> 02:59:34,431
because i had a same discussion,
similar discussion where

3539
02:59:34,431 --> 02:59:37,521
the developer and we've
made it so restrictive

3540
02:59:37,521 --> 02:59:40,345
that it's not worth
it for us to expense

3541
02:59:40,345 --> 02:59:43,630
when you I'm sorry, when
you say bring the right back

3542
02:59:43,630 --> 02:59:48,951
to incentive, I know we were
talking about the height limits

3543
02:59:48,951 --> 02:59:49,521
overall.

3544
02:59:49,521 --> 02:59:50,791
I know we had a
discussion on it,

3545
02:59:50,791 --> 02:59:52,491
but I don't think we were
referring to finalize it,

3546
02:59:52,491 --> 02:59:55,491
you know, and I believe
it's in the agenda

3547
02:59:55,491 --> 02:59:56,931
It's in the Article 30.

3548
02:59:56,931 --> 03:00:00,411
I thought it pretty
much in Article 30.

3549
03:00:00,411 --> 03:00:01,821
Yeah but we already
talked about it.

3550
03:00:01,821 --> 03:00:05,601
No, no, no, we haven't talked
about it Is there a way?

3551
03:00:05,601 --> 03:00:09,201
And I think you may have brought
it up at a previous meeting

3552
03:00:09,201 --> 03:00:12,501
article 30, we seem to be
talking about different things

3553
03:00:12,501 --> 03:00:14,541
almost every meeting
about Article 30.

3554
03:00:14,541 --> 03:00:16,851
And I think a little
confusing for me.

3555
03:00:16,851 --> 03:00:18,171
I'm sure it's
confusing for them.

3556
03:00:18,171 --> 03:00:21,081
I talked about it
with leanne about,

3557
03:00:21,081 --> 03:00:27,433
you know, they did some
resident engagements and people.

3558
03:00:27,433 --> 03:00:29,647
It's not the same few people
showing up because people

3559
03:00:29,647 --> 03:00:30,840
are worn out when you.

3560
03:00:30,840 --> 03:00:32,034
Charlie she's shaking her head.

3561
03:00:32,034 --> 03:00:34,251
And when you do it
piecemeal, people

3562
03:00:34,251 --> 03:00:36,201
don't understand
like the full effect

3563
03:00:36,201 --> 03:00:38,121
because some of these
changes are going to change

3564
03:00:38,121 --> 03:00:39,541
our city for 30 years.

3565
03:00:39,541 --> 03:00:40,041
Yeah.

3566
03:00:40,041 --> 03:00:44,844
Can we maybe does
at the next meeting.

3567
03:00:44,844 --> 03:00:47,601
But like I have a
workshop, maybe like just

3568
03:00:47,601 --> 03:00:50,691
do it if we need multiple
workshop to do it all at once

3569
03:00:50,691 --> 03:00:54,321
because this piecemeal is it's
just it's tough for people

3570
03:00:54,321 --> 03:00:55,376
to follow what's going on.

3571
03:00:55,376 --> 03:00:57,135
But things change,
though, is the problem.

3572
03:00:57,135 --> 03:00:58,431
You know them in
the middle of it

3573
03:00:58,431 --> 03:01:01,581
and something happens
that just happens.

3574
03:01:01,581 --> 03:01:02,881
But no, it means better.

3575
03:01:02,881 --> 03:01:03,381
We can do that.

3576
03:01:03,381 --> 03:01:06,321
But yeah, because then
you have multiple resident

3577
03:01:06,321 --> 03:01:08,301
workshops where they do
everything all at once.

3578
03:01:08,301 --> 03:01:09,548
They get their
feedback because you

3579
03:01:09,548 --> 03:01:11,585
keep asking people to
come back and look at this

3580
03:01:11,585 --> 03:01:12,603
and look at this.

3581
03:01:12,603 --> 03:01:13,461
And it's great.

3582
03:01:13,461 --> 03:01:15,173
We have a very
committed people here.

3583
03:01:15,173 --> 03:01:16,971
They will come to
every single one.

3584
03:01:16,971 --> 03:01:20,041
But when you get the same 20
people giving the same feedback,

3585
03:01:20,041 --> 03:01:20,541
right?

3586
03:01:20,541 --> 03:01:22,221
It's like, how
effective really is it?

3587
03:01:22,221 --> 03:01:25,371
So just from the resident
fatigue perspective,

3588
03:01:25,371 --> 03:01:27,609
maybe that's can we do that.

3589
03:01:27,609 --> 03:01:29,626
Some just some like a larger
workshop of everything?

3590
03:01:29,626 --> 03:01:31,161
I don't I don't disagree.

3591
03:01:31,161 --> 03:01:33,531
And I appreciate like you know,
for me, though, I didn't I

3592
03:01:33,531 --> 03:01:35,898
didn't know casting numbers
like, you know so it's

3593
03:01:35,898 --> 03:01:37,331
new information for
you that maybe everyone

3594
03:01:37,331 --> 03:01:38,691
else is sort of aware of that.

3595
03:01:38,691 --> 03:01:40,461
But it's coming back anyway,
so maybe we address it.

3596
03:01:40,461 --> 03:01:42,621
Then the only thing I would
say to add to what you said

3597
03:01:42,621 --> 03:01:45,681
is I saw like the transcript
of the developer format

3598
03:01:45,681 --> 03:01:48,321
and some of the notes on that,
and it was a good refresher

3599
03:01:48,321 --> 03:01:50,991
for me because we have some
of the things that were talked

3600
03:01:50,991 --> 03:01:52,851
about there and maybe
we don't want to,

3601
03:01:52,851 --> 03:01:55,401
but also in that developer form,
it was said that we would like

3602
03:01:55,401 --> 03:01:58,791
bring them back and talk to
them about what was proposed

3603
03:01:58,791 --> 03:02:01,371
and I don't know that would
necessarily reengage them to say

3604
03:02:01,371 --> 03:02:02,536
are we missing the mark on this?

3605
03:02:02,536 --> 03:02:03,803
And now that we want
to do everything,

3606
03:02:03,803 --> 03:02:05,056
they want us to
write something up.

3607
03:02:05,056 --> 03:02:06,381
I think we talked
about the developer

3608
03:02:06,381 --> 03:02:07,444
engagement and resident thing.

3609
03:02:07,444 --> 03:02:09,028
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

3610
03:02:09,028 --> 03:02:10,259
So it's just hard every meeting.

3611
03:02:10,259 --> 03:02:12,411
And it's probably, I
don't know, for Roberta

3612
03:02:12,411 --> 03:02:13,491
hard for you to write.

3613
03:02:13,491 --> 03:02:18,861
It's like just like the
perpetual never ending Yeah.

3614
03:02:18,861 --> 03:02:21,591
Keeps her busy But
no, we definitely.

3615
03:02:21,591 --> 03:02:23,271
I think we need to
have another charrette

3616
03:02:23,271 --> 03:02:25,641
or whatever to call
it, but the developers

3617
03:02:25,641 --> 03:02:27,331
and, and the residents.

3618
03:02:27,331 --> 03:02:29,588
So they can all listen
to the same time,

3619
03:02:29,588 --> 03:02:32,331
you know, the developer was
awesome because you really

3620
03:02:32,331 --> 03:02:36,051
got to know what they're
their frustrations are coming

3621
03:02:36,051 --> 03:02:38,994
and we'll manage because we
do pass things all the time.

3622
03:02:38,994 --> 03:02:41,161
And then for some reason,
they don't build it

3623
03:02:41,161 --> 03:02:43,529
and, and we're getting blamed
for not building anything,

3624
03:02:43,529 --> 03:02:44,747
but we are passing them.

3625
03:02:44,747 --> 03:02:45,247
OK.

3626
03:02:45,247 --> 03:02:48,261
I think I think our code is
getting a lot closer to where

3627
03:02:48,261 --> 03:02:51,921
we need to be, especially with a
lot of the changes that we had.

3628
03:02:51,921 --> 03:02:53,661
And the part does
work sometimes.

3629
03:02:53,661 --> 03:02:56,181
I mean, look at now I mean,
it took a little work,

3630
03:02:56,181 --> 03:02:59,026
but it did work and some spots.

3631
03:02:59,026 --> 03:03:01,868
I think you do need to
have that as a tool.

3632
03:03:01,868 --> 03:03:02,671
You know.

3633
03:03:02,671 --> 03:03:05,783
But you can even see
in this last proposal.

3634
03:03:05,783 --> 03:03:09,111
What the what the exception
is how small the exception

3635
03:03:09,111 --> 03:03:11,061
is for a project this large.

3636
03:03:11,061 --> 03:03:13,191
If they conform to our new code.

3637
03:03:13,191 --> 03:03:13,811
Yeah.

3638
03:03:13,811 --> 03:03:16,161
So I think that's
just an example that

3639
03:03:16,161 --> 03:03:18,801
shows that i think
we're, we're almost where

3640
03:03:18,801 --> 03:03:19,734
we need to be getting there.

3641
03:03:19,734 --> 03:03:20,234
Yeah.

3642
03:03:20,234 --> 03:03:21,576
And I think in that
workshop, I don't

3643
03:03:21,576 --> 03:03:22,701
know that if it's possible.

3644
03:03:22,701 --> 03:03:26,151
But it would be really nice
if some developers were there

3645
03:03:26,151 --> 03:03:27,840
when also residents are there.

3646
03:03:27,840 --> 03:03:29,988
Because I think, like
when I went back and read

3647
03:03:29,988 --> 03:03:31,221
the transcript,
there are some things

3648
03:03:31,221 --> 03:03:34,188
developers said that I was that
had I not read the transcript, I

3649
03:03:34,188 --> 03:03:35,406
wouldn't have known
like, why they

3650
03:03:35,406 --> 03:03:36,339
explain they need something.

3651
03:03:36,339 --> 03:03:38,121
And when you hear it,
it makes more sense.

3652
03:03:38,121 --> 03:03:39,921
But right now these two parts
like they're not hearing

3653
03:03:39,921 --> 03:03:41,481
what we hear from developers.

3654
03:03:41,481 --> 03:03:43,365
And again, it doesn't
mean developers are right,

3655
03:03:43,365 --> 03:03:46,093
but I think they need that
information to sort of help

3656
03:03:46,093 --> 03:03:49,102
guide them or if it.

3657
03:03:49,102 --> 03:03:50,117
You have it afterwards.

3658
03:03:50,117 --> 03:03:51,335
So are we in agreement?

3659
03:03:51,335 --> 03:03:54,171
Do we want to do
some type of workshop

3660
03:03:54,171 --> 03:03:55,584
or what do we want to do?

3661
03:03:55,584 --> 03:03:58,073
Because you know, we
just we just tabled

3662
03:03:58,073 --> 03:03:59,938
article 30 for the next move.

3663
03:03:59,938 --> 03:04:02,781
But I don't want to put
those code changes off.

3664
03:04:02,781 --> 03:04:05,596
I mean, I think we should
move forward with that.

3665
03:04:05,596 --> 03:04:08,311
And then you know,
go and going forward.

3666
03:04:08,311 --> 03:04:08,811
Yeah.

3667
03:04:08,811 --> 03:04:10,221
Because that's all prepared.

3668
03:04:10,221 --> 03:04:12,891
I mean, the developers
are upset about we,

3669
03:04:12,891 --> 03:04:17,241
but we've, we've already agreed
be a consensus on these changes

3670
03:04:17,241 --> 03:04:19,641
So I don't want to
reinvent the wheel.

3671
03:04:19,641 --> 03:04:22,161
Let's move those which are
already going to be pushed

3672
03:04:22,161 --> 03:04:23,901
forward But I don't disagree.

3673
03:04:23,901 --> 03:04:29,277
I mean, I'm good with going
back for application with our.

3674
03:04:29,277 --> 03:04:29,777
All right.

3675
03:04:29,777 --> 03:04:30,891
All right Okay.

3676
03:04:30,891 --> 03:04:31,431
Yeah.

3677
03:04:31,431 --> 03:04:33,951
All right Well, that
just means adjourned.

3678
03:04:33,951 --> 03:04:35,091
All right.

3679
03:04:35,091 --> 03:04:37,641
Thank you, Quinn You.

3680
03:04:37,641 --> 03:04:39,251
I'm to Dan