1 00:00:02,100 --> 00:00:03,820 Good evening, everyone. 2 00:00:07,810 --> 00:00:08,370 Thank 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,620 you. Mike is in the audience, but I don't think he's at his desk. 4 00:00:19,260 --> 00:00:22,940 Now he's doing it, he's coming on now. 5 00:00:25,340 --> 00:00:27,940 And then when you're all set, I will start the recording. 6 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:29,860 Okay. 7 00:00:32,060 --> 00:00:40,320 Mike, in the show, Bill, Bill, I'm correct. You are possibly going through security in the airport right now? 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,500 Yes, just stepping up to the piano right now. 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:45,160 Okay. 10 00:00:45,380 --> 00:00:50,580 So we expect you may drop off for a sec and come back. 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,080 So in Bill's absence, we may need someone to read the motions that are in the 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:55,300 panel. 13 00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:58,980 Well, he's going through. 14 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:00,440 All right. 15 00:01:00,460 --> 00:01:01,020 Good evening. 16 00:01:01,180 --> 00:01:01,680 Everyone. 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,020 Welcome to the Monday August 10th. 18 00:01:05,020 --> 00:01:05,180 Thank you. 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:05,600 Yes. 20 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:07,280 Sorry, Patty. 21 00:01:08,220 --> 00:01:12,020 Sorry, I've been ahead of myself recording my progress. 22 00:01:15,890 --> 00:01:19,890 Good evening everyone. Welcome to the Monday. I guess time select board meeting. 23 00:01:20,190 --> 00:01:24,350 I'm Chair and the Afraidy. We're joined by Vice Chair Bill Muthanigalain members. 24 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:28,350 My Patent Court, Michelle Prior, and our town manager, Christina. 25 00:01:30,330 --> 00:01:35,570 So we will roll right into the agenda. We'll start with our consent agenda. 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:44,160 move to approve the consent agenda for Monday August 10th. 27 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:45,380 Okay. 28 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:47,720 Roll call Michelle. 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:48,820 Yes. 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:49,640 Nice. 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:51,540 Bill. 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:52,520 Aye. 33 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:53,860 Aye. 34 00:01:57,180 --> 00:02:03,000 Next up we have several donations and grants that has been received by the Tom for us to accept. 35 00:02:04,940 --> 00:02:06,920 Would you like the one big motion, Anthony? 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:15,060 Yeah, what we've done is done it as one large motion and then just do a single vote on it. 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,860 Just catch up. 38 00:02:18,980 --> 00:02:34,010 Move to be approve a grant in the amount of, well, six, six, five thousand eight hundred twenty six dollars from the state nine one one support incentive grant to the police department. 39 00:02:35,230 --> 00:02:44,250 A grant of $10,299 and $36 from the State 911 training grant for the police department. 40 00:02:45,670 --> 00:02:52,110 A independence formula of $86,368 to the Council on Aging from the State Office of Aging and the Dependence. 41 00:02:53,210 --> 00:02:59,170 A donation of $1200 from Sunny Hamansu to the Recreation Department gift fund for supplies at Pack Rail's Tennis Courts. 42 00:02:59,170 --> 00:03:06,030 A donation of $750 from the Winchester Cooperative Bank to support the Recreation Department's concert on the common series. 43 00:03:06,730 --> 00:03:13,870 A donation of $600 from the Winchester Savings Bank to the Recreation Department gift fund for supplies at Packrell's Ten Scorts or any other purpose. 44 00:03:14,710 --> 00:03:22,370 A donation of $600 from Melinda, Google Yeta on behalf of Beesfolk Woodwright's LLC, the purposes of supplies at Packrell's Ten Scorts, 45 00:03:22,370 --> 00:03:26,390 used any of the purpose from the recreation gift account. We'll be 46 00:03:26,390 --> 00:03:29,490 accepting all those donations as red. 47 00:03:31,710 --> 00:03:33,730 Well, call that Michelle. Yes. 48 00:03:34,790 --> 00:03:34,930 Yes. 49 00:03:36,430 --> 00:03:37,070 Hi. 50 00:03:37,830 --> 00:03:38,070 Okay. 51 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:38,930 Can I go in? 52 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:40,010 Sorry. 53 00:03:40,190 --> 00:03:43,170 I just need to make one correction on that. 54 00:03:43,170 --> 00:03:48,770 The donation from be spoke with rights with actually $600, not $60. 55 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,780 amended to, let's see, $600, 56 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:03,380 okay? On behalf of Beespoke Woodrise LLC. Thank you. 57 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,260 Do we need to reveal that, Antia? 58 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,060 I don't know, but we can. So I'm on the second second. 59 00:04:11,060 --> 00:04:14,180 Second. Okay. Michelle? Yes. 60 00:04:14,180 --> 00:04:25,560 like. Yes. Bill. All right. Thank you. Patty. We have some time for public comment. 61 00:04:25,660 --> 00:04:29,380 If there's anyone on, if we'd like to make public comment, please go ahead and raise 62 00:04:29,380 --> 00:04:31,300 our hand and Patty can elevate you. 63 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:43,970 There is none. Let's give it generous pause. So we can move 64 00:04:43,970 --> 00:04:49,050 to the time manager's report, and so we'll turn it over to Chris for that. 65 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:49,510 Okay. 66 00:04:50,370 --> 00:04:53,770 I actually have three appointments tonight, two are new. 67 00:04:53,930 --> 00:04:56,330 Higher spelling baking positions, and one is a promotion. 68 00:04:57,690 --> 00:05:01,370 Linda Fradis is coming on board as our new HR benefits coordinator. 69 00:05:02,270 --> 00:05:04,890 And Michael Mac and his joining us at school to study, and they're both 70 00:05:04,890 --> 00:05:06,970 spelling positions that we're vacant and budgeted. 71 00:05:07,910 --> 00:05:11,070 And Richard Longo is going to be a promoted to a supervisory 72 00:05:11,070 --> 00:05:15,250 the government, he's been with the public arms for 19 years, that's the promotion of 73 00:05:15,250 --> 00:05:15,710 explainability. 74 00:05:15,890 --> 00:05:18,030 See, it was created by recent retirement. 75 00:05:18,410 --> 00:05:24,330 And I've asked the board to weigh the 15 day waiting period on all three of those. 76 00:05:26,260 --> 00:05:26,380 Okay. 77 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:33,700 Move that we wave the 15 day appointment period for town manager appointments of 78 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,460 catch them again. 79 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,140 Yeah, I'm going to spell them out of four of them in the 80 00:05:39,140 --> 00:05:42,500 greatest Michael Mac and then. 81 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:42,860 Thank 82 00:05:44,910 --> 00:05:52,490 you for 15 a.m. for Richard Longo, Michael Maclin and Linda 83 00:05:52,490 --> 00:05:53,450 Pretus. 84 00:05:54,050 --> 00:05:54,610 Say it. 85 00:05:55,530 --> 00:05:56,570 Welcome about Michelle. 86 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:57,570 Yes. 87 00:05:57,950 --> 00:05:58,190 Mike. 88 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:59,850 Bill. 89 00:06:00,370 --> 00:06:07,130 I have some breaking news tonight on the Saturday on there was a 90 00:06:07,130 --> 00:06:12,290 of being break and winch us to place the ceiling. That's the street that's right. I'll 91 00:06:12,290 --> 00:06:17,550 use your bank and the police department. The public works has been at that all afternoon. 92 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:24,550 It's a 1915 cast I may in right now on the implicit fire department, so without water, 93 00:06:24,670 --> 00:06:30,430 it's your bank. There's set of homes in the back there and then eight winch us to place, which is 94 00:06:30,430 --> 00:06:35,250 the building kind of be back there. So the public works will be working probably to the 95 00:06:35,250 --> 00:06:39,390 on this one because they have to process fairly extensive piece of pipe at least when I saw 96 00:06:40,010 --> 00:06:44,310 Bob and his team was seen about an hour and a half ago they weren't. So investigating the 97 00:06:44,310 --> 00:06:49,370 entire length of pipe that had to be placed as a crack in the pipe that had to be a pressure change that 98 00:06:50,030 --> 00:06:55,070 happened. I don't expected pressure change there so but it's been walled off so it's only 99 00:06:55,070 --> 00:07:01,530 affecting that area. So because I'll be the working on that I can hopefully have one of that 100 00:07:04,130 --> 00:07:10,450 and then things, the Crest Street Bridge continue, the work continues there, it's on target. 101 00:07:12,090 --> 00:07:18,350 So hopefully that will continue and be done, fingers crossed maybe early, but we do expect 102 00:07:18,350 --> 00:07:24,770 that it wants the traffic patterns change in the fall that we'll have to bump up the police details. 103 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:29,390 It's a traditional strapping that's me down the roads to a crazy moment of love. 104 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,400 Public comment bid. 105 00:08:00,060 --> 00:08:06,740 acquired those should be installed, hopefully in the next week or so, which will help guide people through 106 00:08:06,740 --> 00:08:07,620 the proper way. 107 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,100 And I mean, the Marko Covert project is ongoing. It has to be in the sixth 108 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:20,900 at staying on target. They've had to do a couple of Saturday, early or hours. And the student 109 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:24,340 in the second conference, supposed to be happening this week. And that's been dry so they should be 110 00:08:24,340 --> 00:08:29,780 okay. And that will keep them going so that they're on a target for when they have to 111 00:08:29,780 --> 00:08:34,900 the major work which we'll take place until later in the year. 112 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:37,240 That's where I want to end just quickly. 113 00:08:38,580 --> 00:08:42,540 So my office and I know it's August and I hate to say the full time it is coming. 114 00:08:42,580 --> 00:08:43,720 The full time it is coming. 115 00:08:44,780 --> 00:08:46,860 Perhaps I already done Saturday. 116 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,100 I notice that I'm not going to tend to be asked. 117 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,200 All departments, all committees. 118 00:08:52,460 --> 00:08:55,900 If they have something going more, I would like to have about August 28. 119 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,720 Just so we stay ahead of the game. 120 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,360 the actual deadline is not till September, but we want to stay a little bit ahead of that. 121 00:09:01,380 --> 00:09:03,760 We've already gotten a number of things back, which is great. 122 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:11,880 So I'll be playing that together and sharing a preliminary draft probably on September 14th. 123 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,820 But we're working internally just to make sure we have everything together. 124 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,380 There's always possible. 125 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:25,640 And there is a potential, well, it's going to be a tree area where scheduling for the 24th, which is next to meeting scheduled 126 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,120 before a tree at 6, 12, 18, that's right by the tight-chain restaurant. So it was posted, 127 00:09:30,780 --> 00:09:35,060 D.B.W.A. here I knew it was opposition to that here at that module. So, and now the 128 00:09:35,060 --> 00:09:40,580 falsehoods like we're gathering information as all in packaging information together. And 129 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:45,160 that made me with a display access condition because we're the primary issues here is access 130 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,980 to any disabled parking space in maneuvering around that tree. So, they're getting 131 00:09:50,980 --> 00:09:56,400 to us as well, perhaps that's a test of them for the 24th meeting. 132 00:09:59,390 --> 00:10:00,190 Thank you, sir. 133 00:10:00,730 --> 00:10:03,170 I mean, shall I see a couple of questions for Chris? 134 00:10:03,610 --> 00:10:03,950 Thank you. 135 00:10:05,530 --> 00:10:09,250 So, Chris, on the, I'll go on a reverse order for the town meeting, 136 00:10:09,370 --> 00:10:14,330 notice of intent is that it's not binding. 137 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:18,230 I imagine the warrant closes when it closes is just a volume type. 138 00:10:18,470 --> 00:10:20,470 Trying to get a level of effort estimate. 139 00:10:21,010 --> 00:10:25,050 Yeah, I used to do this in class, I'm just going to encourage people to get information on 140 00:10:25,050 --> 00:10:31,210 terms early and to think about it. So we're getting stuff at the last minute. And again, 141 00:10:31,510 --> 00:10:35,250 this routine articles that I was on the warrant, like, spaces on the first paper 142 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:38,390 were small, which is great. And like, don't worry those days all in the poll that weren't 143 00:10:38,390 --> 00:10:44,690 anybody, all the question are in a capital articles that are not there. This is more for, 144 00:10:44,990 --> 00:10:49,870 just, it's not that it's just things that are unusual or not regular and I want to get as much 145 00:10:49,870 --> 00:10:51,470 or the access to those as possible. 146 00:10:51,650 --> 00:10:53,210 So if you have a pretty good feedback slide. 147 00:10:54,090 --> 00:10:57,290 OK, OK, and next question is related to the Morocco culvert. 148 00:10:58,390 --> 00:11:00,950 So it sounds like things are on schedule. 149 00:11:01,590 --> 00:11:05,030 Any concerns on cost at this point are we sort of within budget? 150 00:11:06,190 --> 00:11:09,150 As far as I've been told by the project manager, 151 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:12,270 since I'm budget at the moment, I mean, the project would 152 00:11:12,270 --> 00:11:15,930 go up because of the delays of the changes of the T-force 153 00:11:15,930 --> 00:11:18,490 on the project, but everything so far, 154 00:11:18,490 --> 00:11:25,710 is to be working with him but it's still okay. And then the other part to that is the sort of, 155 00:11:25,710 --> 00:11:30,910 you know, serious digging and transporting the dirt along the right of way through the soccer 156 00:11:30,910 --> 00:11:37,590 parking lot is that timed to only begin after all the work at the Cross Street Bridges completed 157 00:11:38,250 --> 00:11:43,730 because currently I think the T is using some of that space as their own laid-out space, which is the path 158 00:11:43,730 --> 00:11:49,390 we have to use to move the dirt off site. Yes, in fact. So we weren't scheduled to do that 159 00:11:49,390 --> 00:11:56,390 once in November. So the T, so as they stay on their schedule should be done weeks ahead of 160 00:11:56,390 --> 00:12:01,310 one need to get access to it. So there's a, there's a, there's a ton of one or issue, 161 00:12:01,410 --> 00:12:06,490 one of their radio and third issues for us to get in there and the government. So it's right now 162 00:12:06,490 --> 00:12:11,470 that the schedule should sink. That's one of the coordination issues we have with the T and the 163 00:12:11,470 --> 00:12:16,910 our project was not going to be impacted by the right now at the chewy thing. 164 00:12:16,950 --> 00:12:17,430 Okay. 165 00:12:18,650 --> 00:12:19,190 Thank you. 166 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:24,680 Mike, any questions? 167 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,420 And Bill, welcome back. 168 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:31,480 Chris just went through his report. 169 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:32,340 I know you miss that. 170 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,560 So if you had any questions in reading it, 171 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,820 feel free to jump in. 172 00:12:38,940 --> 00:12:41,240 Otherwise, one with a long end, 173 00:12:41,620 --> 00:12:42,380 we can capture that. 174 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,160 No questions, let's move along. 175 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:45,340 All right. 176 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,960 So, the next thing we have on the agenda is a presentation of a Wayfinding 177 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,920 presentation from Taylor Hermann, who is our top planner, 178 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,540 so if we have Taylor coming in, 179 00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:07,820 can bring him up and I don't know is there anyone else on who's presenting with him? 180 00:13:09,790 --> 00:13:11,850 No, I don't say anyone that would be going with him. 181 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:18,140 Did he make a room? 182 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,430 Taylor, I also made it so that you can share. 183 00:13:24,490 --> 00:13:25,370 Okay, great. 184 00:13:39,490 --> 00:13:40,310 All right, good evening, everyone. 185 00:13:40,630 --> 00:13:43,130 Thank you for your patience and me getting set up. 186 00:13:43,530 --> 00:13:46,510 I'm also sorry to take up so many pages in your packet. 187 00:13:47,450 --> 00:13:50,590 A lot of it is mostly just in informative. 188 00:13:51,710 --> 00:13:53,430 Attached were two presentations. 189 00:13:54,350 --> 00:13:56,690 The first being, the downtown, which is the way finding guide 190 00:13:56,690 --> 00:13:59,450 and the second being, the branding guide. 191 00:14:00,550 --> 00:14:09,350 The Miranda Guy was included as just as a informative reminder, that was done last year as a part of the economic development study. 192 00:14:10,450 --> 00:14:15,410 It hasn't been implemented in any way, and what hasn't really been discussed. 193 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:25,810 But it's really just there as a reminder that that is there on a shelf somewhere if it's something that we want to proceed with. 194 00:14:25,810 --> 00:14:32,270 But the main purpose of the, of the presentation tonight is just bring you up to speed 195 00:14:32,270 --> 00:14:39,010 on the downtown Winchester, way of finding guide, which was conducted by the planning 196 00:14:42,270 --> 00:14:51,070 department, see I, all my good, good, cloud stuff, you can, so this was conducted by the Winchester 197 00:14:51,070 --> 00:14:56,230 planning department in the works with Dana Garmin from the Chamber of Commerce, and 198 00:14:56,230 --> 00:14:59,970 he'll do one from Winchester Arts. This was a... 199 00:15:00,270 --> 00:15:12,530 A grant funded project from the Mass Downtown Initiative. I'm not going to go through everything here. I'm going to just take a few minutes through time. You can ask in the questions if you have them. 200 00:15:13,310 --> 00:15:25,190 So the purpose of this was to really try to look at all the signs that we have, particularly downtown, but also around town, with a specific eye of supporting downtowns, 201 00:15:25,190 --> 00:15:31,150 interest, the Winchester downtown's unique identity, provide consistent municipal signage 202 00:15:31,150 --> 00:15:39,170 to the public realm, contribute to the historic style of downtown and identify municipal 203 00:15:39,170 --> 00:15:44,510 buildings and amenities. There are many other goals and purposes here, but the primary, 204 00:15:44,630 --> 00:15:50,930 those were the primary goals of this project. As you can see, some of the existing conditions 205 00:15:50,930 --> 00:15:56,650 you maybe familiar with with the signs, the one outside Winchester town hall today is faded, 206 00:15:57,490 --> 00:16:02,190 that day, that one time used to be read, I believe. It's kind of now a pinkish perp, a pinkish 207 00:16:02,190 --> 00:16:10,150 perpillish. The welcome to Winchester sign is in the rotary. We actually question a lot of people 208 00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:14,030 on this. A lot of people didn't even know that was there. And we don't know if those phone numbers 209 00:16:14,030 --> 00:16:14,830 are even active. 210 00:16:15,690 --> 00:16:17,170 So just kind of an interesting thing 211 00:16:17,170 --> 00:16:20,310 of some of the signage in town, now. 212 00:16:22,130 --> 00:16:23,690 Hilda and Winchester Arts has been doing 213 00:16:23,690 --> 00:16:28,630 a lot of work, creating an artistic walkway downtown 214 00:16:29,250 --> 00:16:32,990 and the signs are supposed to kind of keep in line with that. 215 00:16:33,190 --> 00:16:34,590 There are also future opportunities 216 00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:36,890 for adding more signs, but really for tonight, 217 00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:41,110 let's focus on the main signs, the existing ones, 218 00:16:41,110 --> 00:16:46,110 and what it means for a potential replacement. 219 00:16:47,050 --> 00:16:50,510 We did look at other examples, 220 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:54,750 other more modern examples, historic examples, 221 00:16:55,570 --> 00:16:58,370 but really with the work from the Winchester, 222 00:16:58,410 --> 00:17:01,330 from the Design Review Committee, Chamber of Commerce, 223 00:17:01,510 --> 00:17:03,730 Historical Commission, Winchester Planning Board, 224 00:17:03,910 --> 00:17:04,710 and Arts Winchester. 225 00:17:05,490 --> 00:17:08,090 These are the signs that we landed on. 226 00:17:08,090 --> 00:17:10,130 There were two separate options. 227 00:17:10,890 --> 00:17:20,210 Blue was the primary color and many different signs type from directional parking, kiosk, 228 00:17:21,490 --> 00:17:24,870 notification of buildings, and welcome to downtown. 229 00:17:25,690 --> 00:17:28,850 There were a bunch of different sign types that were included. 230 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:33,170 Here is the final design suite. 231 00:17:33,170 --> 00:17:46,450 It's it's it's it's in your packet. This was really the overwhelming choice. There were some suggestions by by by by some by some people, but this was really the the overwhelming choice by most people in the community. 232 00:17:47,550 --> 00:17:56,170 We have proposed additional signage, but really the focus is just the the the existing signage. 233 00:17:56,170 --> 00:18:06,230 These next slides go to each sign one by one, but really I want to skip through this and really tell you what the goal of this is. 234 00:18:06,650 --> 00:18:11,630 We're not requesting any action from you. We're not asking for anything. We're not even asking for any money. 235 00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:18,290 What we're telling you is what we have here is a plan for when signs need to be replaced. 236 00:18:18,290 --> 00:18:25,270 For example, the sign in front of GIN field, I believe, is still been knocked down and not replaced. 237 00:18:26,750 --> 00:18:33,030 We have a plan that we can use to replace the signs if, if we needed. 238 00:18:33,710 --> 00:18:40,710 The main reason I added the brand guideline is because some of this was done with the new branding. 239 00:18:41,250 --> 00:18:42,310 But that's interchangeable. 240 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:47,990 We can use the existing branding, the existing seal, there's no reason not to. 241 00:18:49,090 --> 00:18:52,230 I will just go down to the bottom here, one of the last page. 242 00:18:52,230 --> 00:19:01,710 If we were to redo all of the signs as put into this plan, at one time, the cost would 243 00:19:01,710 --> 00:19:03,450 be $116,000. 244 00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:10,350 Again, not really proposing that we do that, or that that happens, we will continue to seek 245 00:19:10,350 --> 00:19:15,910 grant opportunities for this, for installing them, maybe that will be easier for one off. 246 00:19:17,810 --> 00:19:23,290 But the goal here was really to create cohesion with future signage, improve them, make 247 00:19:23,290 --> 00:19:31,470 them accessible, and kind of match the character of downtown. So that is what we attempted to do 248 00:19:31,470 --> 00:19:37,470 with with this plan. And if anything, it was a good study to get people together and start thinking 249 00:19:37,470 --> 00:19:40,790 about design and way of finding downtown. 250 00:19:41,410 --> 00:19:43,430 I quite enjoyed this one. 251 00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:46,250 So whenever we got out of it, I at least had fun. 252 00:19:48,570 --> 00:19:50,510 So open up to any questions we have. 253 00:19:53,230 --> 00:19:56,650 Mike, I just want to say thank you Taylor. 254 00:19:56,750 --> 00:19:57,350 This is excellent. 255 00:19:57,810 --> 00:20:00,970 I know that there's been a lot of hard work here. 256 00:20:00,970 --> 00:20:04,510 And I think that the final design is great. 257 00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:07,730 And I think that the existing ones have been there probably 258 00:20:07,730 --> 00:20:14,170 for 10 years or so, and we last did this, and so, yeah, they are in pretty rough shape, 259 00:20:14,350 --> 00:20:18,570 particularly the town hall one, which looks, I don't know if it's just paint peeling, 260 00:20:18,890 --> 00:20:24,710 or it was like, they analyze or something, so it looks great. I mean, certainly if there's anything 261 00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:30,770 that you, from us, I think, that it's important that we get this done as soon as possible. 262 00:20:31,370 --> 00:20:36,950 The question I had was around lighting of the signs, do we need to upgrade any electrical or lighting 263 00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:45,310 fruit leaves as well. When we did our search around, we didn't find that many 264 00:20:45,310 --> 00:20:49,450 science that had lighting. There were a few, and I don't know, call exactly 265 00:20:49,450 --> 00:20:53,610 which ones they were, but they weren't that many. Because the town hall one, if 266 00:20:53,610 --> 00:20:58,110 it doesn't have the lead, the town that does it, does it? I think the library 267 00:20:58,110 --> 00:21:01,290 had no idea. I think the library one does. Okay. 268 00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:04,970 But it's a good question. That 269 00:21:04,970 --> 00:21:07,970 would add costs that we did not think of. 270 00:21:08,290 --> 00:21:13,450 Yeah, I think it would be only worth it to address that now. 271 00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:16,430 Thank you very much. 272 00:21:16,810 --> 00:21:17,850 Yeah, hey Taylor. 273 00:21:18,290 --> 00:21:22,550 So the mix of signs that you have kind of the prices for 274 00:21:22,550 --> 00:21:24,410 and town hall, obviously is a candidate. 275 00:21:24,990 --> 00:21:29,150 Do you have a sense of how many of those need to be replaced soon? 276 00:21:29,150 --> 00:21:32,950 I understand it sort of as they fall down, knock down, get vandalized. 277 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:38,830 But do you have any that you think need to be replaced in that sort of $3,000 sign, $6,000 or $1,000? 278 00:21:38,890 --> 00:21:44,130 You have the count. But what would you think is kind of like the rate at which you need to identify 279 00:21:44,610 --> 00:21:49,010 funding? Is it to re-replace in a year? Because you may not want to place them all. Because you might want 280 00:21:49,010 --> 00:21:53,090 to people get used to the new font and things. But do you have a sense of what that is? 281 00:21:53,650 --> 00:21:59,570 Yeah. So right now we did look at, we did do an audit of all of them. None of them need to be replaced 282 00:21:59,570 --> 00:22:03,530 are right now. They're all structurally sound if they're not going to fall down on anyone. 283 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:10,230 I actually don't quote me on that. We don't believe that there's any issue. Again, field is 284 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:16,450 the only one that should be replaced now. However, the ones like the ones at the library, 285 00:22:16,590 --> 00:22:21,010 the ones at Town Hall, the ones in front of the public safety building, those three are kind of 286 00:22:21,010 --> 00:22:28,550 the most central and most important ones in the study. So we may elect to replace those more. 287 00:22:28,550 --> 00:22:29,970 Those are the... these... 288 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,120 One's down here, these larger ones. 289 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,100 And those would be kind of if we want to get the most out 290 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:46,540 of this right now, we replace those. And then I really do believe that there are grant opportunities 291 00:22:46,540 --> 00:22:53,480 if we want to say let's do all the parking signs this year. And then we'll focus on the downtown 292 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,400 way of finding signs next year. I think that that would probably be a reasonable approach from a financial 293 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,360 situation. 294 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:10,060 Thanks, Taylor. We're all set, Michelle. Yeah, that's helpful. Thanks, Taylor. 295 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,760 You know, I know that there are a lot of state grants for these kinds of things, 296 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:26,440 but it can take a little while. I don't know if it helps if we match it or contribute towards 297 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:34,800 All of these signs to get it done, like from our hospital gift account or from, you know, one of the select board accounts where we have funds. 298 00:23:35,180 --> 00:23:44,300 I don't know that we've got all of it in there, but certainly, I think some of the state grants like to see that the 299 00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:47,020 the municipality is contributing as well. 300 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,000 That's good enough. 301 00:23:56,330 --> 00:24:11,230 Thank you Taylor. I had a quick question just about, but then make up on the size that my talk about lighting got me thinking are they reflective or they kind of like our street signs where if you drive past them. 302 00:24:12,850 --> 00:24:15,230 That will eliminate where are they. 303 00:24:16,810 --> 00:24:21,270 I'm just thinking they're pretty dark so like would you be able to see them? 304 00:24:21,270 --> 00:24:26,570 we don't have backlighting on them. So there's no backlighting involved. So any lighting would have to be 305 00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:32,590 just have to be illuminated from the front or above. One thing that we did have to consider when 306 00:24:32,590 --> 00:24:37,770 we're getting the quote is that they did have to be compliant with roadway signage because they're 307 00:24:37,770 --> 00:24:41,750 going to be on the roads or you know if it's going to be on the road or if it's going to be on 308 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:47,330 quote roadway or I don't want to make sure people see it and don't run into it. So so they were at least 309 00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:53,410 to the reflective nature of that, but any additional lighting would have to come from a different source. 310 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,300 Yeah, no, that was just my question about the reflective, it'd kind of be like a street sign 311 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:08,540 where you would see that parking sign if you're coming in in the evening. Yeah, the lettering show is 312 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:13,700 as white, but it's kind of more silvery, not like silvery, silver, silver, but kind of that 313 00:25:13,700 --> 00:25:15,640 reflective silvery. 314 00:25:19,420 --> 00:25:21,740 Thank you. 315 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,860 Bill, any questions from you? 316 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:25,800 You're the. 317 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,540 No questions. 318 00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:28,040 The packet was very thorough. 319 00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:28,860 Thank you, Taylor. 320 00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:30,580 Thank you, Bill. 321 00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:43,220 So sounds like Taylor there is just a request or an interest in knowing if there's pursuing 322 00:25:43,220 --> 00:25:44,560 grant money, 323 00:25:46,860 --> 00:25:51,660 any collaboration there, and then as well as timing. If I can feel 324 00:25:51,660 --> 00:25:55,280 sign, it's going to be replaced for things like that to be aware of that, but 325 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,880 appreciate through the detail information that you shared on the way of finding 326 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,840 as well as the branding information, and we'll look forward to kind of seeing 327 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,020 where this is next. 328 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,860 Great. Thank you very much. I appreciate the time. 329 00:26:11,860 --> 00:26:12,420 Thank you. 330 00:26:13,340 --> 00:26:13,680 You too. 331 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,760 All right. 332 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,840 So next up we have a number of committee and commission appointments. 333 00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:28,220 They see and just looking to see. 334 00:26:32,260 --> 00:26:34,920 I see a handful in. 335 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,760 In the room here, I think we're waiting for one more. So I know we start with. 336 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,760 We'll just go in order. We'll start with the cable advisory reappointment. 337 00:26:46,420 --> 00:26:51,220 We have one in comment seeking reappointment on the cable advisory committee. 338 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:08,680 I move that we appoint incumbent for easy for a term expiring June 30th, 29th, the cable advisory committee. 339 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,020 So I can. Any discussion? 340 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,140 We'll call about Mike. 341 00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:21,080 Yeah. Michelle? Yes. 342 00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:22,820 So. Ice. 343 00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:24,900 I don't know. So it's all. 344 00:27:27,220 --> 00:27:31,360 Next we have three. 345 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,320 Three positions on the cultural council. 346 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,940 And these are all incumbent seeking re-appointment for. 347 00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:47,680 for your turn. I move that we end point incumbents, Cerecola, Patricia Gannon, and 348 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,820 Janette Kojay for terms expiring July 31st, 29th to the cultural council. 349 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:54,860 Second. 350 00:27:57,430 --> 00:28:03,990 Okay. Roll called out Mike? Yes. Michelle? Yes. Bill? Aye. I will. 351 00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:04,910 This is 352 00:28:07,340 --> 00:28:12,060 a patty, have we heard from Akshaya Live? 353 00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:19,480 Yes, she said she was coming, but I don't fear here. 354 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,900 See, okay, so we'll hold on that next cultural council. 355 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,440 A appointment, and we'll go to long range financial planning. 356 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,960 So we have Jean-Baptiste de la Barth, 357 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:36,340 who's a private position on the long range financial planning committee. 358 00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:39,480 Yeah, let me move on. 359 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,540 We'll do it up to now. 360 00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:58,860 We're in our good evening, welcome. 361 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,820 So if we want to have you first, thank you for applying 362 00:29:04,820 --> 00:29:07,220 to the Long Range Financial Planning Committee. 363 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,140 We'd love to have you give an overview of your background 364 00:29:12,140 --> 00:29:14,040 and your interest in the position. 365 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,820 And if you could just start off also with just your name 366 00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:21,340 and your address where our work is. 367 00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:26,840 help. Thank you for the opportunity. I'm Jean Baptiste de la Barte. I live on 22 years 368 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:34,100 straight in Winchester. The reasons why I applied, so I've been a resident of Winchester for 369 00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:40,100 five years. I'm a homeowner here. I have pockets in the public school systems. Two, I know 370 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:45,220 record inventory school, one in Macau, one in high school. So I have a vested interest in knowing 371 00:29:45,220 --> 00:29:50,620 what's happening in Winchester and making sure the tax, failure, money, and 372 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:59,980 I would add to that that I've been looking for a while to give back to the community and I've had a little bit with me. 373 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:11,940 I call with different places, but this one felt, especially complaining to me because I built long-range planning for living and I've been working in finance for almost 20 years now. 374 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:22,600 When people asked me, in my company to describe myself, I tell them I'm Mr. L.A.P. and that's pretty much what I do. I was here, I've been doing for now almost five years and I was doing the following other places. 375 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:31,600 So, I want to keep it short because I'm sure you have questions and I don't know how long we have, but in a nutshell, that's the reason why we're looking to it. 376 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,240 Thank you. 377 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,040 Why don't we take questions? 378 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,720 I just just thought you're on my screen. 379 00:30:38,380 --> 00:30:40,260 Mike, Michelle, and then Bill. 380 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,480 I can go last. 381 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:44,620 Thanks, Cynthia. 382 00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:46,200 And thank you. 383 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,880 Michelle, I'm about to use for applying for this position. 384 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,960 As you know, we're just starting to put together this committee. 385 00:30:52,960 --> 00:31:02,660 and it is what it says it is, it's really a long range outlook, and it certainly sounds like you're here qualified. 386 00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:16,280 My only question really is, do you think you would have any sort of professional conflicts with making recommendations to the town or involved in municipal borrowing recommendations or anything like that? 387 00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:26,280 Thank you. That's a fair question. No, I don't think so. We are actually working completely different ventures. 388 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,680 We don't extend any loan. If anything, we work with banks to get loans. 389 00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:35,820 I'm not in the team that signs the venture debt anyways after we take. 390 00:31:36,260 --> 00:31:41,480 So I wouldn't have, even if I wanted to, I couldn't negotiate that. I get a benefit for Winchester, 391 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:47,980 something attractive of myself. So that's not the case. I'm trying to think it's a really good question 392 00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:50,040 as to where they could be conflict of interest. 393 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,300 Naturally, to be honest, I do have several colleagues 394 00:31:55,300 --> 00:32:01,040 who live in Winchester and they don't know. I don't tell them that we're talking tonight. In that sense, 395 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,740 maybe that's another word where they could push an agenda. That's the only reason they do really. 396 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,980 Okay, great. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. 397 00:32:11,380 --> 00:32:36,700 I think I go next. So my question would be, within your work at flagship or in your career, have you done a, you know, do you have experience in clients with municipalities, you know, cities, towns in Massachusetts or beyond where you're advising, managing debt packaging up bonds or sales and just curious to anything that's specific to what we, one of the things we do here. 398 00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:43,220 No, absolutely. Thank you for the question. I do not. And I tried to put it in the application as clearly as possible. 399 00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:57,720 I do not have experience in municipality finances. What I would say for my defense, you know, is a, I think the structure of the committee itself kind of bridges the gap because there are seven members in the committee and many of them who is this experience. 400 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:05,940 The second thing I would put forth is throughout my career, and if you look at my resume, I'm happy to go through the background, but I don't want to bore you, please. 401 00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:13,080 I love that, but I studied my career in India, then I moved to China, I worked in France for a few years, where I studied and went from. 402 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:21,140 I've been in the US now for more than 10 years, I became a US citizen for two years, and I worked in different industries. 403 00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:30,920 So the idea of getting into something new and learning, and I hope learning quickly is something I've done several times successful in the past, but this is a new territory for me 404 00:33:31,380 --> 00:33:38,340 I've done a lot of research in the last few days after our application to get to understand better how it works for Winchester 405 00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:44,540 I'm trying to understand the magnitude of revenues and span and what's up. Thank you, especially since you were right 406 00:33:44,540 --> 00:33:50,440 votes earlier this year, but it is something that we need to learn from you guys and from other sources 407 00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:53,460 Thank you. 408 00:33:56,110 --> 00:33:57,030 Do you have any questions? 409 00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:59,490 Nope. 410 00:33:59,670 --> 00:34:00,210 Very strong. 411 00:34:00,450 --> 00:34:01,010 Mr. 412 00:34:01,230 --> 00:34:02,070 That piece. 413 00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:03,150 Thank you very much for applying. 414 00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:04,930 I look forward to working with you. 415 00:34:04,970 --> 00:34:05,770 Thank you. 416 00:34:08,530 --> 00:34:11,030 I just have been one question. 417 00:34:12,070 --> 00:34:17,370 As you think about sort of this committee and your background. 418 00:34:18,910 --> 00:34:24,230 Is there an area where you think that you might really like? 419 00:34:26,610 --> 00:34:40,210 either want to get to know better and sort of dig in and become very familiar with or is there an area where you'd be really comfortable taking something on and running with it. 420 00:34:40,390 --> 00:34:46,990 So it might be content related, it might be more operational, but just curious what that would be. 421 00:34:46,990 --> 00:34:48,130 Thank you. 422 00:34:50,170 --> 00:35:01,950 What I think I bring to that committee, if you decide that I can volunteer and I can help you, is more operational as to how we build the model and how we look at different time horizons, one years, three, as well. 423 00:35:01,950 --> 00:35:09,050 10 years. The key is really to what I'm aspiring to do at work and I would be 424 00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:14,130 transposing to Winchester is how do we bring facts? If I look back at the overall 425 00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:23,050 company for instance, as a citizen who hasn't, I didn't work here, it was difficult to get 426 00:35:23,050 --> 00:35:27,790 to let us start facts. How much are we talking about? Does it involve with probably three 427 00:35:27,790 --> 00:35:32,310 two kids in Morocco does it include the renovation of Morocco, does it not like I 428 00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:36,590 found it? I can't say frustrating is too strong but difficult and challenging to get 429 00:35:36,590 --> 00:35:41,290 answers to those questions. And even after the vote I could see talking to friends and 430 00:35:41,290 --> 00:35:44,890 neighbors and the community that many people were still confused at other votes. So what 431 00:35:44,890 --> 00:35:49,350 did we really vote for and what does it mean for the city? So that's what I would bring. It's 432 00:35:49,350 --> 00:35:55,110 really, I'm a strong believer that that are wins arguments. And in a community that 433 00:35:55,110 --> 00:36:00,750 register where people are so proud of getting here and I was told before moving here from 434 00:36:00,750 --> 00:36:05,070 metaphor to be the full black hole when people come to interest as anybody which is a good thing 435 00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:10,470 it means people are happy here but we should be able to agree on at least the facts we're discussing 436 00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:17,710 and that's really what I want to bring as much as possible. It's a transparency. I don't think I would make 437 00:36:17,710 --> 00:36:22,310 recommendations, at least initially I'm here to learn, I'm here to listen, I'm here to, I need to 438 00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:27,190 very understand, but to the extent that this committee and the 439 00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:32,350 friends committee will decide to bring things to the public attention how can we bring 440 00:36:32,350 --> 00:36:36,190 things in a way that are not debutable when it just like amongst the last 441 00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:43,520 decisions. That's really what I'm working to bring. Thank you. All right. Any further questions 442 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,260 from the board? 443 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:55,280 Any questions that you have for us? I've just started asking. Yeah, but keep it 444 00:36:56,940 --> 00:37:02,720 One is, how do you see, so I understand budget 237 has studied and has been related. 445 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:09,760 What kind of, like, how do you see the deliverables short-term in the current fiscal year, 446 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,280 and preparing for the next fiscal exercise? 447 00:37:14,260 --> 00:37:23,740 Michelle, do you want to take out or Chris, are there any very specific pieces that are already in process with the insurance budget? 448 00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:29,980 Yep, so I can talk and then Chris you should chime in so in terms of you know key kind of key work 449 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:36,460 Where Chris is going through, well, we're looking at all of our capital costs as part of our general capital cycle. 450 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:47,680 We are, um, so life-forward is looking at some long-term health insurance costs and, and, and, and Chris is pursuing some areas to potentially bend that cost curve. 451 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:58,240 There's mother initiatives around revenue. So, where we are right now, um, we don't, we'll have to have the comptroller come in soon, but we haven't closed out the fiscal year June 30. 452 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,400 there's still some text recap and other work. 453 00:38:01,060 --> 00:38:04,420 So see where we ended that year, relative to investments, 454 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,420 excess revenue, costs, et cetera. 455 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,020 That will be the foundation of where the manager 456 00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:11,220 will start to build from. 457 00:38:11,620 --> 00:38:13,140 So we know what we can level in the property text, 458 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,620 bill, but is there any sort of patterns on revenue 459 00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:17,560 that looks to be favorable and everything 460 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,600 that are just really volatile? 461 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,760 So that work is happening. 462 00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:24,940 And we're some of the folks who are on this committee 463 00:38:24,940 --> 00:38:27,400 that one of the couple of the at-large members 464 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:32,460 who made, like, on the model, we all had a walkthrough of the model on July 29 with Paris. 465 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,680 So the kind of financial model, the manager has his own budget. And certainly, I think it's 466 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,260 the goal is to have this long-term plan be something that the manager's office might own long-term, 467 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,400 but Chris, please chime in with, you know, that kind of the current work that's happening and looking 468 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:52,220 at assumptions for next year. Those are just the highlights that come to mind for me, but please 469 00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:58,520 had to do it if you could. So we're always kind of looking at the year we just finished the 470 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,580 year in and we were going. So you know, when are we finished, where were the signs, where are we 471 00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:09,240 today and where it was, they always looked down on a little bit. It's always hard to project to for 472 00:39:09,940 --> 00:39:15,440 hand. We were kind of a lag, local government's kind of a lag in terms of revenue and even 473 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,100 that, you know, we would get hit with costs like people, 474 00:39:18,340 --> 00:39:21,240 but even when the pandemic came, 475 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,160 we kind of, you know, 476 00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:24,520 revenue slowed and then came back, 477 00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:27,420 bumping later, and as Michelle Quinn, 478 00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:29,180 and you're always, our progress over 479 00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:31,580 being as cost to our healthcare is part of that. 480 00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:32,900 It's all like, you know, we do everything 481 00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:34,700 we can at the local level, it's hard, 482 00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:36,480 that's really something that has to be bent, 483 00:39:36,620 --> 00:39:38,780 I think at the higher level, what we talk, 484 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,420 I was literally exchanging emails with harm, 485 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,200 our representative of that Medicare, 486 00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:44,900 45 minutes before the meeting. 487 00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:48,060 So it's something we're always looking at. 488 00:39:48,140 --> 00:39:51,300 We're looking at ways to find non-tax revenues, 489 00:39:51,620 --> 00:39:55,080 non-public companies, whether it's fees or other things 490 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,280 that we can generate. 491 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,280 We're watching what we can do with the state. 492 00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:01,640 Can we leverage grants or other opportunities? 493 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,320 Can we share services or things across the borders? 494 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,620 And we're also looking at cost pressures. 495 00:40:09,980 --> 00:40:11,680 What is the time to mandate? 496 00:40:12,260 --> 00:40:14,120 Are there more, there's our population growing 497 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,940 in a particular area or another area, 498 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,680 or is there any increase in service costs? 499 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:22,380 And one of the things we always look at too 500 00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:24,820 is how could there be other ways we could provide services 501 00:40:24,820 --> 00:40:30,660 differently and more creatively or if you have a CDL license 502 00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:33,440 these days, you can, you were at a mid, 503 00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:36,400 I was just talking to Bob about his Bob, 504 00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:38,280 we'll bus here, pull the rest after this morning 505 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,180 about his inability to find people who can clap, 506 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,260 streets, so things like that, 507 00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:45,200 And, you know, we have the pilot, right? 508 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,040 So, you know, Lexington tripled everyone's price 509 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,420 on a certain element of that. 510 00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:53,680 So they can get what they needed and no one could match that. 511 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,660 And so, you look at those things. 512 00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:57,140 You know, like, well, we have to class snowy. 513 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:57,660 We have to clear snow. 514 00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:03,540 So, I think we also have to, you know, be creative about living 515 00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:06,080 with our means of finding ways to be creative amongst the departments. 516 00:41:07,140 --> 00:41:08,380 Government doesn't need to be silent. 517 00:41:08,460 --> 00:41:10,780 I know the schools have their elements that are close schools. 518 00:41:10,780 --> 00:41:15,720 on this misunderstanding, but I think it's weird that we have to do more creative stuff 519 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:21,480 behind the scenes. I think we're trying to have those conversations. And again, it's 520 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,820 important fundamentally what people expect is residents and what they're willing to pay for, 521 00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:31,120 because that's fundamentally what drives this right. We need to present a bunch of this bounced, 522 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,240 and that's going to be the conversation this fall. We have to just agree on whether you 523 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,900 numbers are going to come in and we're going to bunch it around or work towards that. 524 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:46,240 And I specialise there were waiting for the 26 numbers to close. My fingers are crossed that 525 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:51,080 they'll be positive. You know, Stacy still doing a lot of work on the ticking time and 526 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:58,320 will the numbers. And we've entered this year, you know, okay. But you know, with with a, 527 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,560 I'll pull out a whole little plundin. We want to keep doing that. We've managed to do that. So 528 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:10,200 There's a whole lot of things we're moving on at the same time, but again, I did the input from 529 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,840 folks like you were going to group, and I know there's on this community going to be critical in 530 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,200 setting the communities, expectations, 531 00:42:18,260 --> 00:42:19,920 and in our goals. 532 00:42:23,530 --> 00:42:28,950 Thank you for sharing that. By when do you expect to have all the free advent 26 figures ready? 533 00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:33,670 I think, I think later in the months, they should be for the end of August, 534 00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:38,070 If for the very beginning of September, I think it's a historically, when they come now, I don't, 535 00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:43,650 I know I just don't need not to keep checking, I ask them to check one final thing I'm about to hear. 536 00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:46,570 So, I think it's pretty close. 537 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,660 So, what do you mean, this committee can go get to work pretty quickly? 538 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,600 Well, that's good to hear. 539 00:42:57,940 --> 00:42:58,560 Good to hear. 540 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,820 Well, thank you for that. 541 00:43:00,820 --> 00:43:11,080 And you mentioned the models that already exists, that very tough, so of course the idea is not that they bring something from the outside and then we have competing models, anything like that, but I'd be very careful about it. 542 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:19,020 What exists, it exists for a reason, we start from there and then we can build on or corrective your degree to explain how to modify it. 543 00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:25,380 I'd be I commit that if you choose me I'd be very respectful of what exists because again 544 00:43:25,380 --> 00:43:29,220 right before and well intending people have thought it together for reasons. 545 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,360 I will have questions and certainly 546 00:43:33,380 --> 00:43:39,020 propositions to address the modified but the idea that you own the model and one more thing 547 00:43:39,020 --> 00:43:41,220 you own the assumptions and lines is one of. 548 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,960 We work on them together. 549 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,760 to be just quite a bit of work in that mono with the state of the town over the past. 550 00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:58,000 All of the last of them are longer than that, but it's pretty well built down. 551 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:00,140 All right. 552 00:44:00,380 --> 00:44:03,000 Thank you. 553 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,520 So the board of summer would like to make a motion. 554 00:44:08,140 --> 00:44:10,080 So, Anthony, I think before we get that, there's- 555 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,480 I wanted to make a board aware that there's so Jean Baptiste, thank you for your application. 556 00:44:14,780 --> 00:44:18,300 There's three other residents who have expressed interest in this committee. 557 00:44:18,820 --> 00:44:20,560 Two of whom have applied via email. 558 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,860 I think the actual application didn't get to the packet in time. 559 00:44:24,460 --> 00:44:31,520 So I'd like to work with Patty to try to get those folks on our next agenda and then take a vote 560 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,020 in two weeks to fill that last seat. 561 00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:53,230 Yeah, so I know that there was one additional application, I was not aware of the other two, but there's one that Patty shared from Pengpeng, 562 00:44:53,230 --> 00:44:59,150 child that came in on Thursday, Pulse, Posing, Garra came in on July 31st, and then Leo Donu 563 00:44:59,150 --> 00:44:59,910 and I work community. 564 00:45:02,340 --> 00:45:12,760 I was out of town until Sunday for Sunday or today. So I wasn't aware that this was going to be on today's agenda. So I was trying to meet with that third candidate to at least discuss interest. 565 00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:18,760 Not that you knew that because I didn't realize that this was going to be on tonight's agenda either. 566 00:45:19,540 --> 00:45:24,480 And just how do you when we posted this, do we have a close date on that posting? 567 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:31,840 Yes, but they're all the interest had come through before the posting and 568 00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:54,200 one job, Paul had not, he submitted information but he had not submitted his application and so we went into last week so everything just happened after the packet deadlines, because the packet deadline is now Tuesday at 12. 569 00:45:56,780 --> 00:46:11,760 Okay, so is it correct that we have additional applications that came in before the posting was closed, but the materials were not correct for you. 570 00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:12,340 Okay. 571 00:46:15,740 --> 00:46:31,940 Yeah, I think in that case we should consider the applications that we had in before the deadline and happy to interview those other candidates on the on our next meeting. 572 00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:40,470 Thanks for that. I was not aware that there were multiple others that had come through, but I 573 00:46:42,170 --> 00:46:43,830 And that would be fine then if 574 00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:48,470 Everyone is comfortable doing that 575 00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:56,140 That sounds good to me. That's been our practice. I think in the past when 576 00:46:57,260 --> 00:47:02,640 And I actually I didn't even know that Tuesday was a deadline. I thought it was Thursday for the packet. So 577 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,380 That's good that's good to know, but yeah 578 00:47:05,380 --> 00:47:08,000 to change Mike and that's why I'm saying it out loud. 579 00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:10,760 Oh, okay, oh no, it's good to know, 580 00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:13,880 for when we send people and tell them, 581 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,100 hey, you've got until Thursday, at least, yeah. 582 00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:20,400 But I think that the committee itself is slowly 583 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,640 moving towards getting off the ground, 584 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,660 so I don't think it'll make a difference 585 00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:26,540 if we wait till the next meeting either. 586 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,180 So. 587 00:47:28,180 --> 00:47:29,700 Okay, so let's do that. 588 00:47:31,180 --> 00:47:32,800 So I'm going to give a piece of apologies 589 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:41,340 that we're kind of process got us on this one. So we will meet again on the 24th 590 00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:48,960 we will be in person. You are welcome to attend that meeting or watch it on 591 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,880 webcam. But we won't need to interview it. You again because we met with you 592 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:55,420 today, 593 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,860 and so that's a good deal. 594 00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:02,520 It's positive to hear that there is 595 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,560 interest for the positions. 596 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:06,860 I see on the website, it's mentioning two or three 597 00:48:06,860 --> 00:48:09,880 individuals attending the model, so if I'm one of them 598 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,200 perfect, I'm sure you make the best decision for Winchester. 599 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,580 I will not be in town on the 21st, but I can't 600 00:48:18,580 --> 00:48:19,140 try to remove it. 601 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,900 Well, thank you. Thank you for your time. 602 00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:30,900 Thank you for applying and we will move back around to you for meeting in two weeks. 603 00:48:32,340 --> 00:48:33,020 Thank you. 604 00:48:33,020 --> 00:48:33,680 Thank you. 605 00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:35,200 Nice to meet you. 606 00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:44,080 Patty. 607 00:48:45,420 --> 00:48:46,260 Oh, yes. 608 00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:50,660 I think Patty will see Elevate you. 609 00:48:52,860 --> 00:49:00,040 And then Patty, can you elevate extra the lab for the cultural council position, please? 610 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,140 Are we pronouncing your name correctly? 611 00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:23,260 Yes, you pronounce the whole thing correctly. 612 00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:24,120 Oh, okay. 613 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,180 I have some practices holding a name in character. 614 00:49:29,620 --> 00:49:31,040 So, welcome. 615 00:49:32,180 --> 00:49:35,600 Thank you for applying to the cultural council position. 616 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,960 And thanks for joining our meeting. 617 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,540 For the interview, we have your application materials. 618 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,560 And we'd love to hear from you. 619 00:49:45,580 --> 00:49:46,740 I have a couple of questions. 620 00:49:46,740 --> 00:49:49,800 but if you could first just introduce yourself, 621 00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:52,760 you're just starting your name and your address 622 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,400 and then tell us a bit about yourself 623 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,140 and why you're interested in a cultural council position. 624 00:49:58,140 --> 00:50:04,920 Sure, so I am Okshtad Aladwa and I am at 1171 Swanton Street 625 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:10,440 in Winchester and that is located in the community called the Village. 626 00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:13,460 I don't know if anyone is familiar with that area. 627 00:50:14,660 --> 00:50:18,960 And I didn't necessarily know that I was interested in the cultural council. 628 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:26,080 I just found that the electrical boxes, I guess it's called, and the faculty were painted. 629 00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:34,080 And then I saw that on the streets, or on the sidewalks, there were, like, what looked like chalk art. 630 00:50:35,860 --> 00:50:45,700 And so like those two things just I was like really happy to see those and so I just started looking at what 631 00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:54,680 like how do those things come to be in the town and that's when I saw that there was this cultural council. 632 00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:57,800 But I looked at some of the other events. 633 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:07,820 and things that the council puts it and I wanted to contribute to that and had ideas 634 00:51:07,820 --> 00:51:20,620 for expanding it and doing more and being able to kind of do more some crew specialty type things. 635 00:51:20,620 --> 00:51:27,880 as I thought there was a Afro Kera type event and I really thought that was interesting. 636 00:51:28,740 --> 00:51:32,800 I didn't get to attend that I was out of town, but that's something that I found really interesting. 637 00:51:33,580 --> 00:51:42,540 So I wanted to be part of the team that puts these things up and make sure that the community 638 00:51:42,540 --> 00:51:46,360 is coming out to these things that is getting value from that. 639 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:54,480 So, background on me, so I have no actual background in the arts or anything like that. 640 00:51:54,860 --> 00:52:02,360 I am a Product Manager in Tech by Profession, and I've been in that field for over a decade now. 641 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,020 And I just moved to Winchester in January, 642 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,620 and moved to Massachusetts just a couple years ago. 643 00:52:12,620 --> 00:52:16,900 I was, you know, had a state and grew up somewhere else for a long time. 644 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,020 So this is my first time in this area for some living in a town like this. 645 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,520 So I wanted to just join and be part of the community. 646 00:52:26,170 --> 00:52:26,890 Thank you. 647 00:52:27,530 --> 00:52:29,850 Glad to, uh, does you tell you about this culture? 648 00:52:31,260 --> 00:52:39,020 There's a very nice, nice future. So we'll start with questions. We'll go, Mike, Bill, Michelle. 649 00:52:40,420 --> 00:52:41,360 Questions for each other? 650 00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:51,080 Thank you, Cynthia, and thank you, Michelle. I really appreciate you moving to town and jumping right into helping out 651 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:56,940 the cultural council. The cultural council has been very, very active and getting a lot of things 652 00:52:56,940 --> 00:53:03,680 on over the past several years, so it will be nice to see you part of it, so thank you very 653 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:08,940 much for showing interest and happy to support you. I don't have any other questions. 654 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:09,880 Thank you. 655 00:53:17,340 --> 00:53:18,080 Will any questions? 656 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,400 No questions. 657 00:53:19,860 --> 00:53:20,880 Happy to support her. 658 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:22,500 Michelle? 659 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,880 I think the only question I had is have you had a chance to watch a meeting of the cultural 660 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,640 counselor or contact anybody on that committee? 661 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,880 No, I am not. 662 00:53:33,500 --> 00:53:35,080 That's not a problem. 663 00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:36,280 That's not a problem. 664 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,900 She actually begged a diversity. 665 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,900 It actually sent her application and trust to Peter Pulsifer. 666 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:44,920 Okay, also. 667 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,540 So he's aware and he actually has stopped by today to see if we had 668 00:53:49,540 --> 00:53:50,180 appointed hers. 669 00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:51,120 Oh, good. 670 00:53:51,460 --> 00:53:54,060 I will connect her with him. 671 00:53:54,060 --> 00:53:54,480 With him. 672 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:55,300 Okay, great. 673 00:53:55,300 --> 00:53:56,800 I appreciate it too. 674 00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:57,780 I appreciate it. 675 00:53:57,780 --> 00:53:58,800 Thank you. 676 00:53:58,900 --> 00:53:59,160 Yeah. 677 00:53:59,180 --> 00:54:00,200 I appreciate your interest. 678 00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:01,860 Thank you. 679 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:10,640 The only question I have for you is just if there's a particular interest that you 680 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:18,320 have that you could see, you know, sometimes with as a three-year appointment, so sometimes within your 681 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:30,500 I guess it's a one-year appointment, and then you put inside of them looking, but something you could envision that you might try to get off the ground while you're a member of a cultural household. 682 00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:42,140 Yeah, there's one kind of idea that I did have and I don't know how it fits into the context of, you know, the committee and you know what the boundaries are as there right now. 683 00:54:42,140 --> 00:55:09,320 But I come from Indian background and when I was growing up, I didn't have a lot of Indian or other Asian representation in the community that I was growing up despite there being plenty of Indian or other Asian people doing their own little celebrations for different times of the year. 684 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:17,040 I would like to see, and this would be something that I would be happy to take on, but I would 685 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:25,680 like to see something specific to that culture, be something that the town can also be a part 686 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,100 of in and learn. 687 00:55:31,110 --> 00:55:31,590 Thank you. 688 00:55:34,460 --> 00:55:38,340 Any questions that you have for us, but I don't know how many of 689 00:55:38,340 --> 00:55:39,220 we ourselves. 690 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:49,320 I don't. I think I should have done a little bit more research, but I think 691 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,080 I will probably have questions after understanding a little bit more on how things work 692 00:55:55,980 --> 00:56:08,000 and just kind of getting to know what's in the pipeline and what the process is to 693 00:56:10,050 --> 00:56:18,010 make a motion. Yeah, so I move that we appoint a new applicant, 694 00:56:18,290 --> 00:56:25,230 Exhada Ladoa for a term expire on July 31, 2027, to the vacant position on the cultural 695 00:56:25,230 --> 00:56:25,530 Councillor. 696 00:56:26,490 --> 00:56:27,110 Second. 697 00:56:28,790 --> 00:56:30,430 So, we'll call the Michelle. 698 00:56:31,350 --> 00:56:31,370 Yes. 699 00:56:32,510 --> 00:56:32,690 Yes. 700 00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:36,770 I will answer so. 701 00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:37,750 Thank you. 702 00:56:38,130 --> 00:56:38,750 Thank you. 703 00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:40,190 Thank you. 704 00:56:40,510 --> 00:56:41,470 Thank you. 705 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,260 All right. 706 00:56:43,620 --> 00:56:46,800 So, we will do a review of moving people around. 707 00:56:47,380 --> 00:56:54,320 So, how do you would you be able to then put extra to back the attendees and then bring 708 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,140 We'll do Julia Osborne and Steve Baker. 709 00:56:57,380 --> 00:56:59,120 We can bring them on at the same time. 710 00:57:08,790 --> 00:57:13,820 Two applicants for the permanent street tree committee. 711 00:57:16,290 --> 00:57:18,350 Steve, who is a new applicant, 712 00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:20,650 and then Julia Osborne, 713 00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:22,690 who is a comment, 714 00:57:22,850 --> 00:57:26,940 I believe she was appointed in January of this year. 715 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,800 So we'll start with Julia, 716 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,780 Yes, people join you move around in my screens here. 717 00:57:35,980 --> 00:57:37,180 They're talking about screen at the moment. 718 00:57:38,380 --> 00:57:44,500 We'll start with Julia if you want to give us a little bit about your background, 719 00:57:45,340 --> 00:57:49,680 your interest in continuing on the permanent street free committee 720 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,560 and then we just go ahead when you introduce yourself 721 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,980 with your name and your address. 722 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:56,040 Yes. 723 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,560 I'm Julia Osborn and I live at 39 Canone Road. 724 00:58:02,860 --> 00:58:18,440 My background is, I have a master's in plant ecology, but most of my life was spent in science, editing, developing science textbooks and periodicals and curricula of various sorts. 725 00:58:19,420 --> 00:58:23,480 I'm retired now, I've lived here 30 years. 726 00:58:24,660 --> 00:58:39,080 and I was delighted to be appointed to the committee because over the years I've seen the loss of canopy cover in the town and really want to be able to participate in changing that and turning it around. 727 00:58:40,080 --> 00:59:05,080 I was at I came on the committee in January I think and we developed as when I came on we developed a five year plan which included things such as doing a full tree inventory and analysis and management plan for where we go in the next few years which species of trees how we would address that. 728 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:11,920 And finally, with a planting plan, working with the town to ensure Jesus planted and maintained. 729 00:59:14,380 --> 00:59:22,080 We thought we could have budget to do some of that. Unfortunately, they over I didn't pass. 730 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:28,120 So there wasn't money to hire an arborist whom we would like to have worked with us. 731 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,240 We have applied for some grants to help us. 732 00:59:32,420 --> 00:59:44,460 We certainly applied for grant with the municipal vulnerability, preparedness group, working with the Mystic River watershed association. 733 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:57,280 To use some lovely equipment that would basically take an image of every tree on the street that would allow us to identify species size and it actually, 734 00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,900 It's a vehicle that drives up and down. 735 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,140 And we were going to be able to use that data to develop a plan. Unfortunately, we just learned we did not get the grant. 736 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:25,000 So we also wanted to make sure we were planning some trees. We've applied for a grant with the CPA to see if we could get some trees in some of the parks. 737 01:00:26,020 --> 01:00:38,380 And that's ongoing, but I would really like to see us be able to achieve a large net growth in the true canopy. 738 01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:40,500 We really have not been replacing traces. 739 01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:46,160 They're coming down in many of our streets have no street trees anymore. 740 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:53,660 We'd also like to, some of the other towns give out free trees for people to plant in their yards. 741 01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,000 We don't do that. I know the state in some states and I don't know if this is true here. 742 01:01:00,620 --> 01:01:05,660 This just came to my attention, but I know some of the states actually will give 743 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,900 Trace to towns to distribute to individual people that happens in their hamster. 744 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:19,660 So I think that would be a way without using funds if we could get Trace to actually give to individual people. 745 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:21,960 Thank you. 746 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,820 Any questions from the board? 747 01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:28,400 Actually, I have one. 748 01:01:29,780 --> 01:01:32,000 Thank you for coming in this evening, Ms. Osborn. 749 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,800 You talked about even on the committee's January, 750 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,160 so you've went through the budget cycle, 751 01:01:39,660 --> 01:01:41,100 obviously the arborist piece. 752 01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:45,700 I'm curious within your street tree. 753 01:01:46,380 --> 01:01:48,920 What you know about it and what you know about our current situation. 754 01:01:49,620 --> 01:01:51,600 If you think there's any particular 755 01:01:52,660 --> 01:01:56,800 areas of town that need this attention more or any sense within the 756 01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,280 tree committee of where you'd prioritize like if we had suddenly five hundred 757 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,020 trees land you know a truck backed up and five hundred trees like we're in 758 01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:07,480 the jinks center parking lot. Do you have a point of view which is the committee 759 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,740 at the point of view about where that kind of reforestation of a start in town? 760 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:18,260 The come out state for myself because I think we're thinking we would have more 761 01:02:18,260 --> 01:02:24,080 data. I think we should start with the main large thoroughfares, which have broader 762 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:32,800 verges, where there's more room to plant large trees. And I think my vision is we'd 763 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:39,840 have like allies of uncertain blocks or certain areas for be similar, very similar size trees. 764 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:45,960 What we've been doing in the past, I'm not necessarily like one red maple and one red bud 765 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:51,860 that dies. I mean, we haven't been planning with a sort of a majestic view of what the 766 01:02:51,860 --> 01:02:56,860 main streets in the city could be like like highland Avenue. They're all I live on highland 767 01:02:56,860 --> 01:03:02,680 Avenue. So that is a biased statement. I do know the data show that the eastern part of the town 768 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:08,980 is less treat, has a less canopy now than the western part just because the development and the 769 01:03:08,980 --> 01:03:15,300 things have been planted, but a lot of our sidewalks don't have trees. So, does that answer? 770 01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:20,740 I mean, maybe Washington, don't be silent. No, just I appreciate the point of view. Thank you. 771 01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:28,050 Well, I find myself very lucky to have six trees on my very short-street, 772 01:03:28,590 --> 01:03:34,550 because I hear me speak. I planted one. It turns out you're not supposed to. It's doing 773 01:03:34,550 --> 01:03:36,910 I don't like to like over none. 774 01:03:38,990 --> 01:03:39,910 I'm trying to get the post. 775 01:03:40,450 --> 01:03:42,030 This was before I could make a minute. 776 01:03:44,610 --> 01:03:46,070 I'm like our bell any questions? 777 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:49,800 No. 778 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,480 I'm all set. 779 01:03:50,780 --> 01:03:55,740 Thank you Julia for again applying to shit. 780 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:56,240 Yeah. 781 01:03:56,580 --> 01:03:57,080 Thank you Julia. 782 01:03:57,380 --> 01:04:04,640 I remember our interview from Virginia, and I said I don't have any additional questions, 783 01:04:04,900 --> 01:04:05,040 thank you. 784 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,660 your background of your time on your committee is very helpful. 785 01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:14,580 Okay, thank you. It's been an honor to serve however, I'm productive so far. 786 01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:17,260 Changed each time. 787 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,280 Ari, I think you're Julia and then see you all turn it to you. 788 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:30,160 So, introduce yourself your name, your address, a little bit about your background and why you're 789 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:34,100 interested in serving on the Permanent Street Street community. Sure, thanks a lot. 790 01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:41,180 good evening. Steve Baker, 10 Wildwood Street, an 11-year resident of the town, a geographer 791 01:04:41,180 --> 01:04:46,940 by training bachelor's and master, so I have some applicable, you know, coursework studies 792 01:04:46,940 --> 01:04:52,200 related to this topic. My professional background is commercial real estate and I suspect that 793 01:04:53,140 --> 01:04:57,440 there could be some applicability there as well, so over two decades in the commercial real estate 794 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,760 world, I'm currently staying in play with the Executive Office of Economic Development 795 01:05:02,820 --> 01:05:08,320 and I'm a passionate outdoorsman from my Eagle Scout days through current leadership with 796 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:13,780 that place in Mountain Club and a number of capacities. Why I'm interested is a care 797 01:05:13,780 --> 01:05:18,800 about our community and I think this is a way where I can have a unique skill set as a background 798 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:25,220 as I just described and I think that can add value to the committee. I will say that I was 799 01:05:25,220 --> 01:05:29,760 previously serving just for your awareness on the cable advisory committee. I did have to 800 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:38,380 Remove myself from that role just to professional conflicts in my new state and my state capacity from a couple of years back. 801 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,400 So eager to step back into serving the town in a capacity where I can evaluate. 802 01:05:46,580 --> 01:05:46,900 Thank you. 803 01:05:47,940 --> 01:05:49,120 Questions from the board? 804 01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:54,650 So I'll ask what I asked. 805 01:05:55,470 --> 01:06:01,830 Our cultural council applicant. If you had a chance to attend any tree committees or meet with a chair or meet with members. 806 01:06:02,570 --> 01:06:07,270 I'm just to get a sense of how, you know, how they roll and what they're focused on. 807 01:06:08,190 --> 01:06:12,450 I have not attended a formal meeting. Michelle, I do know a couple of the folks on the 808 01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:18,810 committee. I did have a chance to talk to one of those folks, Tom Moore. He and I run 809 01:06:18,810 --> 01:06:22,130 together and I did have a chance to catch up with him about going on with the committee 810 01:06:22,130 --> 01:06:25,590 and his perspectives. So that was helpful. Okay. 811 01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:33,630 Make a bell any questions? 812 01:06:35,290 --> 01:06:40,230 No, I'm good. Thank you very much for applying safe. Appreciate it. Thank you. 813 01:06:40,890 --> 01:06:42,050 Any questions here? 814 01:06:43,370 --> 01:06:52,270 So, Sioux, is there anything that you can think of as a new applicant that would 815 01:06:52,270 --> 01:06:55,230 be something that you would bring to the Permanent Street Creek Creek 816 01:06:55,230 --> 01:06:59,870 community either or something interested in or something that you've seen 817 01:06:59,870 --> 01:07:05,690 and other related work that you've done that you think could be valuable to the community? 818 01:07:06,790 --> 01:07:17,590 I think myself as a collaborator, I don't know all the members on the committee now, but my style is highly collaborative, and I think I've got a unique background as I described. 819 01:07:18,810 --> 01:07:29,970 I think as also, you know, I have a unique perspective on state government, certainly one of what conflicts, but I think I can open doors through my network profession. 820 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,200 Finally, and drop on that experience professionally and personally, in this way. 821 01:07:37,420 --> 01:07:37,820 Thank you. 822 01:07:43,310 --> 01:07:47,970 Okay, so we will go ahead and go ahead and deliver it. So, Patty, baby, we can. 823 01:07:49,810 --> 01:07:51,530 What is the RTS grade? 824 01:07:54,370 --> 01:07:59,870 It's to just move them back into the, yeah, attendees. Yes. 825 01:07:59,870 --> 01:08:05,330 I don't have it for everything, we're going to thank you very much for applying. 826 01:08:07,150 --> 01:08:10,970 Check, read, attend to them. 827 01:08:13,010 --> 01:08:21,510 Alright, so if there is discussion where we can take a motion from members of the board. 828 01:08:23,340 --> 01:08:50,660 So I'll move that we appoint and come in Julia Osborne to a term expiring July 31, 29, to the permanent street committee for open position and just to kind of add my perspective on this, you know, I think we just appointed her to this committee very recently and so. 829 01:08:50,660 --> 01:09:07,640 I think I'd like to see Steve on there as well both would be great assets, but I think we give Julie a chance to kind of get get to get something moving on the committee. 830 01:09:07,980 --> 01:09:11,860 So she's kind of already acclimated herself and has jumped in. 831 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:17,300 And so it makes sense to continue her and then when an opening comes up to reach out to Steve again. 832 01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:22,160 so that's my reasoning for the motion for Julia. 833 01:09:23,780 --> 01:09:26,820 So as a follow up to your response mic, 834 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:32,240 is I actually asked Austin because we had to choose, 835 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:33,800 we could only choose one candidate. 836 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,980 And the other person can actually 837 01:09:37,980 --> 01:09:41,460 join the Permit Street Committee as an associate 838 01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:43,280 as a non-boding member. 839 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,900 He needs a lot of volunteers. 840 01:09:45,900 --> 01:09:51,400 And they would be a spot for Steve as a ex, as an onboarding member. 841 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:59,600 Okay. Um, well, we can take that up as a separate motion and see if that if there's interest there. 842 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:05,420 Um, it's not, it, it's also not on the agenda that way. 843 01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:08,980 I don't know if that we, you know, no, it would, this is no voting by the board. 844 01:10:09,020 --> 01:10:12,560 He can just, it's, um, he can just, oh, okay. 845 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:18,640 this is helping with the committee. He doesn't have to, he just can't vote. So it's it'd be 846 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:25,980 you know, a non voting member. Yeah. And I think that that's really a great solution here. And, 847 01:10:25,980 --> 01:10:31,320 you know, just kind of anecdotally, a lot of these committees, you know, there's not a, you know, 848 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:42,540 votes swinging back and forth by one vote. Like, I think for the work they do, they're all kind of 849 01:10:42,540 --> 01:10:48,080 unanimous most of the time. So I don't think that by not being an official member but participating, 850 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:54,360 you know, there's really that much of a substantive difference. So that's just my two cents. 851 01:10:54,900 --> 01:11:00,240 So certainly that we can connect Steve with Austin if that's turns out to be the case. 852 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,600 Okay. And we have non-goating members who do work on this work. 853 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,480 I was just not good enough. 854 01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:17,000 I was like, wait, I had to pause what you were just saying there. I was going to second that motion. 855 01:11:18,020 --> 01:11:26,840 Then you threw me for a curveball there. So I appreciate Patty the potential opportunity for 856 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:31,400 Steve Baker. We should circle back with him if that's a interest realizing us on our vote. 857 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:41,020 But to Mike's point, Julia Osborne has been there. And there's no reason to think she can't 858 01:11:41,020 --> 01:11:47,840 continue to fulfill that role and be available for those meetings. So I would support extending 859 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:55,700 that reappointment to her. So I'll second my motion. Yeah. Great. Any further discussion? 860 01:12:00,530 --> 01:12:13,010 And we can take a vote. So we'll call vote, Mike. Yes. Michelle? Yes. I will answer as well. So thank you 861 01:12:13,010 --> 01:12:18,770 both Julia and Steve, so Julia, see you continue as a member of the Primary History Community 862 01:12:18,770 --> 01:12:27,890 and Steve, we can connect you with Austin if you would like to be engaged with that. 863 01:12:28,130 --> 01:12:32,790 We'll have some great backgrounds that would be great to be engaged. 864 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:43,380 So we will move on to the old, sort of, but we have as old business and just, 865 01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:58,500 As we've been updating our agendas, you'll see somethings our old business, somethings our new business and it's just kind of things that we've heard before versus things that are new to the agenda for the first time. 866 01:12:59,140 --> 01:13:13,360 So Chris, can we turn it over to you for sort of a quick summary of your memo of the retiree health insurance and sure we've all had a chance to read it and I'm sure we all remember our work. 867 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:22,520 extensive meeting and collaborative extended motion that got us to where we are. 868 01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:32,990 Okay, so summarizing the nonetheless in the packet after a number of conversations with staff, 869 01:13:32,990 --> 01:13:42,370 from an ads and several of the unions and unit leaders and doing some research into the 870 01:13:42,370 --> 01:13:47,230 potential retiree pool and who is more likely than others to potentially retire. 871 01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:55,210 I'm recommending that the board take the latest date that you set in your vote, 872 01:13:55,210 --> 01:14:05,290 just June 30th, 2027 as the date for file vesting for the point of the benefit, I think that'll 873 01:14:05,290 --> 01:14:15,450 give people plenty of time to have these conversations out. I think a lot for what we hope to 874 01:14:15,450 --> 01:14:21,810 have are a tax policy session, just so good that I understand how all the raised benefits work together. 875 01:14:22,350 --> 01:14:26,550 I'd like to recommend a bit more time and not retire, just to bring to neutral folks 876 01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:27,450 and to help do that. 877 01:14:27,690 --> 01:14:32,150 It did something like that in New York and we have an early retirement session, and so 878 01:14:32,150 --> 01:14:36,310 we can understand how the timing on things and how things worked. 879 01:14:38,910 --> 01:14:45,150 And based on the conversations, I think it would also last a mission time for the partners 880 01:14:45,150 --> 01:14:45,570 to play. 881 01:14:46,770 --> 01:14:54,750 I'm also asking that people giving notice to us, and that day would be February 1. 882 01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:59,710 Like if people point of time, it also allows the budget to be tweaked as necessary. 883 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,260 necessary to address potential returns. Obviously if things change, people can always, you know, 884 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:14,000 there's some of these circumstances change. You have to reverse this out retiring. And for some reason, 885 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:19,360 they can't, for some reason, those things happen. It's okay. It's a work without. But we'd like to 886 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:27,780 know, with some degree of certainty, a story about this we can, so that we can play. If someone, 887 01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:37,040 whether someone say to DPW supervisor or a clerk in an apartment, it does take time to 888 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,220 make sure we're transitioning and then we're getting the right skills that's covered. 889 01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:47,640 And that's the recommendation if people have questions will be free to ask. 890 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:53,300 I do think that this is spurred conversation for sure amongst staff. 891 01:15:54,000 --> 01:16:00,400 And there will be obviously also ongoing conversation with retirees that I'll continue as well. 892 01:16:02,060 --> 01:16:03,620 But that's the recommendation. 893 01:16:07,530 --> 01:16:09,290 So I've got a couple of questions. 894 01:16:10,990 --> 01:16:15,070 Met a couple of weeks ago, we had a preliminary meeting of retiree health insurance. 895 01:16:15,970 --> 01:16:18,450 I'd asked it to get us on like a monthly cadence for that. 896 01:16:18,990 --> 01:16:22,710 So do you envision, I don't know what the status is that is, 897 01:16:22,710 --> 01:16:31,870 Do you envision having these meetings on a monthly basis with retirees until February or March? 898 01:16:32,290 --> 01:16:34,810 We've only had one, but I think we need to have more. 899 01:16:35,290 --> 01:16:37,250 And would that regard this and where this vote goes this evening? 900 01:16:37,690 --> 01:16:40,050 That's kind of a, maybe that's all business of really old business. 901 01:16:41,090 --> 01:16:41,770 That's a good question. 902 01:16:42,250 --> 01:16:45,450 I don't think it's anything clowned by having, I think we're good and things are good. 903 01:16:45,570 --> 01:16:48,030 I think it was helpful in getting information to me. 904 01:16:48,170 --> 01:16:51,650 In fact, folks, I also have getting information back out. 905 01:16:51,650 --> 01:16:54,930 I actually had a unit active unit leader there, right? 906 01:16:54,970 --> 01:16:56,750 And myself, I mean, I think it's 907 01:16:56,750 --> 01:16:57,870 it's bird and additional conversations. 908 01:16:58,730 --> 01:17:01,610 So yeah, I think getting on a regular cycle. 909 01:17:02,370 --> 01:17:04,650 And having the continued online accessibility 910 01:17:04,650 --> 01:17:08,430 is good and I think more members are getting appointed too. 911 01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:10,190 So that'll just be beneficial. 912 01:17:10,810 --> 01:17:13,370 So we get to you as well as the necessary. 913 01:17:14,970 --> 01:17:19,050 OK, so this is the same question as Kaboie's ghost. 914 01:17:19,070 --> 01:17:20,950 Should I be working with you or Kim 915 01:17:20,950 --> 01:17:25,850 as the Slipboard Rep to that committee, to get that cadence nailed down. 916 01:17:29,390 --> 01:17:36,290 Yes, both of us, and I'm trying to figure out who will be the point that my staff here 917 01:17:36,290 --> 01:17:41,830 and how logistics just setting up the regular meetings and all, Kim's only here a couple days a week. 918 01:17:44,090 --> 01:17:48,470 But we know what we get to set up, I think we get to set up a monthly, regular monthly, 919 01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:54,890 Zoom and have a through software in these like what's off us as well. 920 01:17:55,150 --> 01:17:56,630 Well, Frank, okay. 921 01:17:56,690 --> 01:18:06,930 Okay, thank you for that. And my second question is relative to February versus February to 922 01:18:06,930 --> 01:18:15,450 notice a shift from January 1 to June 30. So all current retirees will roll over January 1. 923 01:18:15,450 --> 01:18:17,310 That's where a lot of the Medicare plans. 924 01:18:17,950 --> 01:18:26,810 Is there any implementation concern from Stacey or carriers or anything else for a mid-year 925 01:18:26,810 --> 01:18:28,450 implementation or change? 926 01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:37,490 We would just add a certain cohort of employees to the retiree roles in May, June, July, and 927 01:18:38,900 --> 01:18:41,520 so the plans change on January 1. 928 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:42,960 And again, we hit the new rates. 929 01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:45,740 In fact, we still have a down the shift for what January was Rachel B. 930 01:18:45,740 --> 01:18:50,700 But people were a terrible time. So they people had to plan on other retire. So when you retire, 931 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:56,580 that's a, that, that, that, that let you in, that, that's, that's, you know, you're, you're 932 01:18:56,580 --> 01:19:01,620 automatically in current retirees in this role of planning a role of January 1. So, that, that, the, the 933 01:19:01,620 --> 01:19:06,940 deadline for letting us study retirees really just for us to know. And by giving a deal of June 934 01:19:07,380 --> 01:19:11,780 30th, and some people want to first, physically, for some reason, or, expect, there'll be people that 935 01:19:11,780 --> 01:19:17,400 entire, we've very handsome people right in my office, so it's okay to tell her, and I expect 936 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:23,380 there are some who will go sometime in the spring. I think people also speak time to look at 937 01:19:23,380 --> 01:19:30,250 their circumstances, you know, when their spouse or family are, where they are, you know, 938 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:37,080 that they have a few more years, you know, everyone takes this very individually and I just think 939 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:44,720 It has been a lot of conversations, but it doesn't change anything when people join a plan when 940 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:45,440 they were tired. 941 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:51,080 Okay, so then my last question, I have something else that we do adopt this recommendation, 942 01:19:51,420 --> 01:19:57,500 but my last question for now is, if with February to inform your budget, right, and do you 943 01:19:57,500 --> 01:20:00,640 have it like February 9th or something, are you about just do February 15th? 944 01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,060 Yes, this is from the first. 945 01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:02,980 February 1st. 946 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:18,160 So as part of that financial impact, and maybe this is where the Fincom people on the retiree health insurance committee can help, we're going to need to calculate 947 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:23,680 potentially sickly by-back for a significant portion of this staff, right? So 948 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:32,760 Is that anywhere in the modeling in terms of or have we had to pay out any sickly by-back and unused vacation for folks of our retired like what's the 949 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,640 What's the burn rate because that's gonna be? 950 01:20:35,820 --> 01:20:42,200 That's gonna hit current year budget and I think we need to understand if there's a a need to adjust budgets. It's spring town meeting based on 951 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,640 sort of these you know 952 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:54,760 We have, you know, we have credits and we have, you know, unrealized liabilities, depending on where the volume of folks and what they've occurred. 953 01:20:55,940 --> 01:21:00,920 I think that letting, if people let us know my favorite, they'll allow us to do those kinds of things. 954 01:21:01,780 --> 01:21:04,200 Often, you know, you don't replace somebody right away anyway. 955 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:06,920 But it really depends on the entire thing. 956 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:11,200 of retiring in 30th, but you're right, and everybody's kind of hitting us in this fiscal year, 957 01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:14,820 and then any of the saves we would have found would have been for the next year. 958 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:20,600 And if we had to add more money, it's good to know that earlier, so we can make any adjustments in the 959 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:26,320 budget. There's there's perhaps on what people could carry, and I get an old depends on what 960 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:32,060 you that you're in and how long you've been here. So there are our upper bounds on those things. 961 01:21:33,060 --> 01:21:36,300 Some of the bigger hits we've had involved more unusual circumstances, 962 01:21:36,300 --> 01:21:40,740 we're somebody's been out on leave for a medical or something like that and there are 963 01:21:40,740 --> 01:21:46,860 growing things. Those are pretty rare. Most people that there's a fine amount of time they 964 01:21:46,860 --> 01:21:51,960 have, we're going to really depends on what they're, you know, along the bidding and what they're 965 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:56,060 units, but what they have, most people are allowed to roll a lot of vacation. I work usually 966 01:21:56,060 --> 01:22:01,180 only a week or two. And the six time by bag is also dependent on what their contract says. 967 01:22:02,580 --> 01:22:08,380 I don't think it's a place of wool for everyone, but again, it's best by the time I 968 01:22:08,380 --> 01:22:11,780 shall. I should point out to it. So, do you do those calculations? So, if you have to make a 969 01:22:11,780 --> 01:22:17,860 tweaked man, you can. I see a Stacey, do I know? I don't know. Stacey, you haven't read it yet. 970 01:22:17,860 --> 01:22:21,320 Can't read it yet, just so I'll pack her in. Yeah. 971 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:29,800 Stacey, I'm good morning yet. Good evening. I couldn't hear what Chris was saying, but I don't know what's 972 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:29,980 Thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next one. 973 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:51,100 My audio. But as long as we're just going by the retirement date, the implementation of the Medicare Part B is basically, we take everyone, we get an export from our insurance company, whoever was on our plan and had retirement dates up to before that date, we would then process the Medicare Part B payment set the end of June. 974 01:22:51,780 --> 01:22:57,040 If we then say, well, they have to give us notice in order to get the benefit and that gets a little bit tricky. 975 01:22:57,300 --> 01:23:01,220 So hopefully we're just going with the retirement date and calling it a day. 976 01:23:02,020 --> 01:23:04,220 But Michelle, you're right, they will be not so much. 977 01:23:04,300 --> 01:23:08,120 I had raised my hand because you mentioned sickly by that, but then you continue it on with vacation. 978 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,220 That's usually the bigger it is the vacation by back. 979 01:23:11,300 --> 01:23:15,200 And if someone's been here for years, they're at five weeks vacation. 980 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:21,560 And they may not have taken all their vacation, come January, they've earned five weeks. 981 01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,660 So they can paid out that five weeks depending on when they were hired. 982 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,760 So it's a little tricky in some of the union. 983 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:27,360 They're all different. 984 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,920 So yeah, they will come with a budget impact for sure. 985 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:33,840 Thank you, CC. 986 01:23:36,060 --> 01:23:36,500 Oh. 987 01:23:41,510 --> 01:23:41,670 Okay. 988 01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:43,230 Any other questions on this? 989 01:23:49,230 --> 01:23:55,310 So it sounds like we're comfortable with the memo and the update that Chris provided. 990 01:23:55,310 --> 01:24:05,930 and moving towards having a June 30th date for the Retari Health Insurance benefits. 991 01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:16,490 So, so much could just make a motion that articulates that and then we'll start with that. 992 01:24:16,490 --> 01:24:18,810 Sure, so I can make that motion. 993 01:24:18,810 --> 01:24:22,730 That slipboard adopted the recommendation of the time manager to formally established June 30, 994 01:24:22,970 --> 01:24:25,170 2027 is the deadline for vesting 995 01:24:25,170 --> 01:24:29,690 Townsmetic or a parpy reimbursement and any employee who retired on a before, 996 01:24:30,030 --> 01:24:31,710 that date will receive the parpy reimbursement. 997 01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:34,630 Those are retired after that date when along received that reimbursement. 998 01:24:43,550 --> 01:24:43,690 Okay. 999 01:24:45,290 --> 01:24:46,450 Any further discussion? 1000 01:24:49,730 --> 01:24:53,950 No, the only thing I would say is I'd like to get a little bit more information. 1001 01:24:54,390 --> 01:24:57,010 I think I asked for this last time kind of on like impacts 1002 01:24:57,530 --> 01:25:04,710 you know, so I know that we have 80 eligible retirees but you know, which departments 1003 01:25:04,710 --> 01:25:10,790 are they from and, you know, I think it just makes a difference when we're, you know, 1004 01:25:10,970 --> 01:25:20,490 kind of looking at the change to retirees, their financial planning for the future so that's 1005 01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:25,650 my only thing, you know, I, I, I, I, I'm glad that we're pushing it out that far because 1006 01:25:25,650 --> 01:25:29,410 I think we need some time here to socialize this. 1007 01:25:29,570 --> 01:25:32,350 And I think that was part of the reason 1008 01:25:32,350 --> 01:25:38,770 for us to get the retiree health committee back together. 1009 01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:45,090 So I'm glad that at least we won't be before July 30, 20, 20, 1010 01:25:45,410 --> 01:25:46,350 so I'll say that much. 1011 01:25:49,940 --> 01:25:52,300 And then after we vote this, I'd like to make another motion, 1012 01:25:52,500 --> 01:25:55,620 but let's just take this out first, please. 1013 01:25:56,060 --> 01:25:57,680 OK, so do you a roll call about Michelle? 1014 01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:58,740 Yes. 1015 01:25:58,920 --> 01:25:59,400 Bill? 1016 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:00,100 I. 1017 01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:01,300 Mike? 1018 01:26:01,740 --> 01:26:01,900 Yep. 1019 01:26:02,740 --> 01:26:03,080 Right. 1020 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:04,720 I bow yes as well. 1021 01:26:05,500 --> 01:26:07,400 I'll take a go ahead if you have a second motion. 1022 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:15,280 My second motion is to ask the chair and the manager to communicate with their counterparts 1023 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:20,360 in the school department and school committee to socialize and make and share this update. 1024 01:26:20,980 --> 01:26:24,000 I know back in July, right? 1025 01:26:24,020 --> 01:26:24,720 No, I guess it was June. 1026 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:29,320 I got a note from a school employee who was concerned about having to make that decision 1027 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:29,920 in July. 1028 01:26:30,140 --> 01:26:34,940 So if we can get ahead of that tonight or tomorrow, I think that will help us. 1029 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,180 So I just want to say that I love that sounds great. 1030 01:26:38,420 --> 01:26:39,060 We can. 1031 01:26:41,580 --> 01:26:44,500 I will further discuss with that sounds great weekend. 1032 01:26:44,860 --> 01:26:51,700 We can certainly work with communicating that through school committee and making sure 1033 01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:56,140 and superintendent in the future that information gets out there. 1034 01:26:57,970 --> 01:26:59,850 So we'll take a roll call vote on that, Michelle. 1035 01:27:01,250 --> 01:27:01,530 Mike. 1036 01:27:03,010 --> 01:27:03,230 Bill. 1037 01:27:10,370 --> 01:27:14,250 Anything further with us, are we going to move on to WCCC? 1038 01:27:17,730 --> 01:27:24,750 So Chris, we also have a memo from Chris on WCCP going back to our earlier discussion about 1039 01:27:24,750 --> 01:27:32,270 care custody and control of the different projects that I'd come up both in speaking with 1040 01:27:32,270 --> 01:27:37,950 Christina Marshall, the chair of the WCCP and as well as getting an understanding of what some 1041 01:27:37,950 --> 01:27:44,470 of the projects were and how they were developed. So in Chris's memo, there was discussion of 1042 01:27:46,630 --> 01:27:56,850 You know, his recommendation on providing care custody and control for all of the projects. 1043 01:27:57,190 --> 01:28:07,770 Excuse me, as presented with an update around the new adult field project and how that has been shifted to a study. 1044 01:28:07,770 --> 01:28:13,930 And it's coming in with support from the record director as well. 1045 01:28:14,510 --> 01:28:16,770 Of course, is there anything to add to that? 1046 01:28:17,610 --> 01:28:18,730 We've had some good conversations. 1047 01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:21,350 I'm one thing that I'm upon on a list. 1048 01:28:21,650 --> 01:28:24,270 This conversation is happening much, much, much earlier next year. 1049 01:28:25,550 --> 01:28:26,550 So they've been good. 1050 01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:27,770 They've been productive. 1051 01:28:28,630 --> 01:28:31,110 They need to come much earlier in the process next year. 1052 01:28:33,250 --> 01:28:35,950 So I'm fully honest with my staff as two. 1053 01:28:35,950 --> 01:28:38,930 And I said we've had some really good conversations in the Utah field as a great example. 1054 01:28:39,830 --> 01:28:44,990 Anthony and my office were not met with President of, I think he's the president of the WBSA. 1055 01:28:45,130 --> 01:28:48,450 At Newtownfield, they had a good conversation and I changed the scope of the project. 1056 01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:53,510 For the good, and I became a joint project with the town to do a master play. 1057 01:28:53,610 --> 01:28:55,490 I think that was, they had to accomplish things. 1058 01:28:55,610 --> 01:28:57,610 That was like really, really good to happen out there. 1059 01:28:59,130 --> 01:29:02,850 And I also had a really nice meeting with Austin and the chair of the Permanente Community of the day. 1060 01:29:03,410 --> 01:29:05,810 So he was actually excited that I like trees. 1061 01:29:05,810 --> 01:29:12,230 and that I want to help them develop plans. So that was a really good conversation. So 1062 01:29:12,230 --> 01:29:15,750 and again, as you heard earlier, unfortunately, they did not win or the grants they were seeking. 1063 01:29:16,010 --> 01:29:21,850 So I think the WCCP funding for their actions is really critical. And I'm going to 1064 01:29:21,850 --> 01:29:26,550 even though I don't have a vote, WCCP, I'm certainly advocate for funding for all of some 1065 01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:30,990 projects. So my recommendation is the board giveaway. Green line to all the seven of these. 1066 01:29:30,990 --> 01:29:33,870 and the care tests that control me all the way through. 1067 01:29:33,950 --> 01:29:38,130 So if they think that the CC, those CCV votes, yes, the fund on that. 1068 01:29:38,290 --> 01:29:40,630 But the word, you know, gives them a green light at town meeting. 1069 01:29:40,910 --> 01:29:42,990 That's what the Canadians are looking for. 1070 01:29:43,070 --> 01:29:43,890 That's what I would recommend. 1071 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:48,120 Any questions for Chris? 1072 01:29:49,900 --> 01:29:50,620 So yeah. 1073 01:29:52,500 --> 01:29:56,520 So care testing control, I think I understand that. 1074 01:29:56,540 --> 01:29:57,260 And that was the next step. 1075 01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:58,600 That was the open item for this. 1076 01:29:58,600 --> 01:29:59,580 but two 1077 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:28,940 Support this all day to the town meeting. I mean, I'm not suggesting things will change, but it's possible that from August 10 to November, something could come up. So for the select board to commit on August 10th, that we support it when we have invoked positions on the war and articles and we haven't seen the motion language and we haven't seen any potential concerns or risks or cost changes that fills a bit premature to me to vote that tonight. But that's the language and your recommendation is to go all the way through to fall town meeting. 1078 01:30:28,940 --> 01:30:32,960 And it's like we're normally both positions closer to town meeting, 1079 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,180 sometimes the evenings of town meeting. 1080 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:37,960 Yeah, that I've experienced. 1081 01:30:38,660 --> 01:30:43,860 I think that the real, again, we're kind of working online, which right? 1082 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,820 So I think this is more than just the advocate. 1083 01:30:48,140 --> 01:30:50,940 This is an endorsement of the applications and the board supports the application. 1084 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,380 Not just the right to apply, which is for the application. 1085 01:30:53,380 --> 01:30:56,340 And obviously, this could happen, as you said, for sure, but to now, 1086 01:30:58,380 --> 01:31:00,220 and November, this 1087 01:31:00,220 --> 01:31:01,800 could change in the world, right? 1088 01:31:02,780 --> 01:31:08,600 So, or in the Mississippi funding process, or perhaps tennis is the whole of the story. 1089 01:31:08,780 --> 01:31:11,780 I mean, I don't think it's like that happened, but, you know, if it's going to happen between 1090 01:31:11,780 --> 01:31:16,500 now and now, I understand that I think what the VVCCP wants to know is that I understand that 1091 01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:20,220 the board is supportive of the applications as applications. 1092 01:31:21,940 --> 01:31:27,880 And I understand that I haven't completely came back that the board is hearing that, but 1093 01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:32,100 reserves the right to, you know, something happens, the world can change, you still have to 1094 01:31:32,100 --> 01:31:35,080 vote these in the context of the work. 1095 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:42,380 They do want more than just application, you know, not just, you're saying, smile, the application. 1096 01:31:42,700 --> 01:31:45,580 You score the applications, the content of the applications. 1097 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:51,500 I don't know if I'm, this is all due. We're kind of making that possible. We go along. 1098 01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:57,740 So I'm trying to split the thread and needle here, I guess. 1099 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,300 Maybe my guess, I'm just dying to. I hope anything. 1100 01:32:11,670 --> 01:32:12,710 I go ahead. 1101 01:32:13,190 --> 01:32:16,210 Thanks, Cynthia. Yeah. Thanks, Chris. 1102 01:32:16,210 --> 01:32:28,210 I know part of the CPA process, we were kind of building the plane while we were flying it and I think that's going to really happen for the next few years. 1103 01:32:29,990 --> 01:32:42,930 And so I think it makes sense that we spent some time really kind of digging into these projects even though it wasn't necessarily on the timeline that we wanted, but I think it makes sense for us to 1104 01:32:43,830 --> 01:32:51,910 in support of all of the care custody and control for all of the applications that have been 1105 01:32:51,910 --> 01:32:57,770 submitted because management has reviewed them at this point, right? And to your point, if something 1106 01:32:57,770 --> 01:33:04,830 crazy happens or something that we didn't know about, then it won't happen, right? So even if 1107 01:33:04,830 --> 01:33:10,230 town meeting approves it and all that, right? So, but I think that we have dug in and management 1108 01:33:10,230 --> 01:33:14,970 is research these enough to I feel confident kind of moving forward at this point without too much 1109 01:33:14,970 --> 01:33:15,790 more discussion. 1110 01:33:19,980 --> 01:33:28,420 And that's a good point as well. Like is that if something changes so if 1111 01:33:28,420 --> 01:33:36,100 if cost change you know something changes that changes the nature of the application you know that 1112 01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:44,680 very well-known change where we're at but given what's presented as it is and what will be 1113 01:33:46,440 --> 01:33:51,840 what will be put for to the WCCP for a vote I think this is our 1114 01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:57,660 acknowledgement of the projects in their current form. 1115 01:34:05,340 --> 01:34:06,680 So I'm happy to make that motion. 1116 01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:16,380 Um, if you'd like a motion at this point and the, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. Okay, and thank you, Mike for, um, for that as well. So, 1117 01:34:16,660 --> 01:34:22,780 move to the slide for accept the recommendation of the top manager to support the following community preservation projects of the BCCP. 1118 01:34:22,780 --> 01:34:34,080 Friends of Winchester Recreation, Thunderfield Pavilion, Winchester Recreation Packer Ellis tennis McDonald basketball tennis resurfacing DPW town hall auditorium permanent seating restoration. 1119 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:40,040 permanent street, street community, public tree, canopy improvement, walk and roll Winchester, 1120 01:34:40,300 --> 01:34:45,520 track community, greenway improvements, Winchester Youth Baseball, softball, new tile field 1121 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:46,600 master plan. 1122 01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:48,260 Thank you. 1123 01:34:50,420 --> 01:34:51,320 Any further discussion? 1124 01:34:55,630 --> 01:34:56,490 Roll call vote, Michelle? 1125 01:34:57,250 --> 01:34:57,550 Yes. 1126 01:34:58,010 --> 01:34:58,370 Like. 1127 01:34:59,750 --> 01:35:00,030 Bell. 1128 01:35:00,510 --> 01:35:01,790 All right. 1129 01:35:01,790 --> 01:35:02,230 I vote. 1130 01:35:02,410 --> 01:35:02,670 Yes, yes. 1131 01:35:03,470 --> 01:35:04,510 All right. 1132 01:35:04,790 --> 01:35:08,670 Chris, thank you for getting this back to us. 1133 01:35:08,670 --> 01:35:13,550 and thank you as well to Anthony for meeting with 1134 01:35:14,110 --> 01:35:19,650 just a space law sample on that project and getting that to the current state. 1135 01:35:21,770 --> 01:35:29,990 All right. So the next thing that we have in our old business is reviewing the summary of 1136 01:35:29,990 --> 01:35:38,350 time managers evaluation and talking about the next steps here. So in our packet we have a summary 1137 01:35:38,350 --> 01:35:41,550 of the scores across each of the 1138 01:35:44,150 --> 01:35:46,050 subsections of the evaluation 1139 01:35:47,970 --> 01:35:54,220 in looking at that both in from our contract with Chris 1140 01:35:54,220 --> 01:35:57,160 that when we kicked off was that in this review, 1141 01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:02,900 needed to have a score of at least three, 1142 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:07,760 as well as a vote at sort of a affirmative vote 1143 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:20,500 each member to continue the contracts through December 31, 2027. We do have that in the 1144 01:36:20,500 --> 01:36:26,160 evaluation, so across all of the subsections for squared or three or higher, as 1145 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:33,980 well as received affirmative affirmation, I have some funny, but that the affirmation 1146 01:36:33,980 --> 01:36:38,880 from the board members to continue the contract. 1147 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:45,420 So I believe Chris has offered the opportunity 1148 01:36:45,420 --> 01:36:51,200 and I think that with many of us already, I'm just to get some feedback about their review, 1149 01:36:51,920 --> 01:37:01,840 talk through any areas, any questions or anything like that. If you have not yet done that, 1150 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:05,500 Certainly, you know, connect with Christine's available. 1151 01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:10,660 He's put like a two, how those are one of my conversations. 1152 01:37:11,440 --> 01:37:12,200 And here, feedback. 1153 01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:18,840 And I think, you know, it's a testament to, 1154 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:24,040 I came into a hard situation and did good work 1155 01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:29,980 and getting us through our override vote and our, 1156 01:37:30,110 --> 01:37:42,050 Our budgeting in the spring coming in after a period when we had my thorough several commentators 1157 01:37:42,050 --> 01:37:43,830 of the course of the few months. 1158 01:37:45,230 --> 01:38:11,870 So what I will say is just to add to that sorry but just to add to that is it was discussed among among us at some point do we want to consider the contract whether we extend it beyond kind of what that next. 1159 01:38:13,830 --> 01:38:20,030 just sort of 18 months and that's something that we people would like to discuss. We can do that in 1160 01:38:20,030 --> 01:38:25,190 executive session and talk through contract for the town manager. 1161 01:38:28,420 --> 01:38:29,360 I will pause there. 1162 01:38:37,900 --> 01:38:37,900 So, 1163 01:38:38,700 --> 01:38:43,080 is the executive session that you're thinking to discuss a different term? 1164 01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:46,540 Okay. Yep, 1165 01:38:46,540 --> 01:38:56,440 if we wanted to extend that term, we could discuss that in exact. So, people would like to do that. We 1166 01:38:56,440 --> 01:38:58,800 and put that on the agenda. 1167 01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:02,160 Or you can put that on the agenda and talk through it. 1168 01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,020 Because that is something that we can do in this section. 1169 01:39:06,260 --> 01:39:13,400 And I'm also wondering if in the after Chris was onboarded, 1170 01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,060 and we had negotiated the contract, 1171 01:39:15,180 --> 01:39:18,040 then we had to deliver goals for the manager. 1172 01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:20,220 And we did that over, I think, two meetings, 1173 01:39:20,460 --> 01:39:22,620 and then Chris went back and took them up and came back to us. 1174 01:39:22,620 --> 01:39:30,140 What's the plan for finalizing manager goals since the evaluation format self drives very much off of goals? 1175 01:39:31,020 --> 01:39:35,340 There's a summary of goals, but I'm wonder if we shouldn't agree on those as a board. 1176 01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:39,020 I'm still in favor of extending Chris's contract, but I wonder if we shouldn't have those goals 1177 01:39:39,580 --> 01:39:45,620 to find ourselves. There's a paragraph. Certainly, I think we had six or seven for Chris, 1178 01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:50,180 and we did that over a couple of meetings. So it seems like those potentially should go together 1179 01:39:50,180 --> 01:39:56,440 that here's the renewal, maybe that term pieces, exact session, here are the goals on which we 1180 01:39:56,440 --> 01:40:03,680 like you do execute in the next term of your contract. I didn't see that the goals, maybe the 1181 01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:07,920 goals is the next step, but I didn't see where that, where this summary performance would then 1182 01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:14,220 turn into select more goals for the manager. And out of that was anticipated to be like the next 1183 01:40:14,220 --> 01:40:18,060 meeting or not, so maybe you can just help me understand that. 1184 01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:25,440 Um, we all, I'm sorry, but you need to go to. 1185 01:40:27,780 --> 01:40:28,960 Um, we're about to start reading. 1186 01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:30,220 If you give me lots of cookie here. 1187 01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:31,220 So I had to. 1188 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:38,300 Um, so we will, um, we can do that in the next meeting and talk about goals. 1189 01:40:38,780 --> 01:40:41,000 Um, that's one of the things that you're right. 1190 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,520 We had talked about beforehand of just how do we. 1191 01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:48,440 because you usually also when you're evaluating the town manager, you have like, 1192 01:40:48,900 --> 01:40:52,780 or evaluating anyone, you kind of also want to be collaborative and how they develop those goals. 1193 01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:57,420 And so we had worked with Chris on goals that kind of go to the end of this year, 1194 01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,520 so we would want to update those. 1195 01:41:01,060 --> 01:41:06,420 We can talk about that in the next meeting and then I guess the question would be, 1196 01:41:06,460 --> 01:41:12,460 is if we wanted to discuss which order we want to do that in, 1197 01:41:12,460 --> 01:41:18,820 the exact session and goals but that's something that I can work out for our agenda, how that 1198 01:41:18,820 --> 01:41:19,280 fits. 1199 01:41:26,930 --> 01:41:32,210 Chris, as you just came up with you too. I don't want to stop on the conversation. I 1200 01:41:32,210 --> 01:41:41,150 just want to say I appreciate the word bringing me on board the first place. I do appreciate 1201 01:41:41,150 --> 01:41:49,470 that it has been a very active rock, which is a full and place which has been great. I've had a 1202 01:41:49,470 --> 01:41:54,070 and we would lots of people across the spectrum, I do that every day, and that with employees, 1203 01:41:54,950 --> 01:42:00,110 I just remember folks that officially gave the 15-day wave before the last week, 1204 01:42:00,330 --> 01:42:07,450 and that with another fire care in it today, and it's been great. It's been great to work with staff, 1205 01:42:07,610 --> 01:42:14,170 to develop staff, and to continue to develop programs and move forward on the goals, 1206 01:42:14,170 --> 01:42:18,010 The board sets, the time meeting sets, and all the board's committee set. 1207 01:42:18,610 --> 01:42:23,570 There's a lot to do here. It's exciting. There's a lot of great things ahead. 1208 01:42:24,730 --> 01:42:29,890 I appreciate the feedback I've gotten so far. I know there's always things to improve on. I am far from perfect. 1209 01:42:31,170 --> 01:42:37,530 And I appreciate the support I've been given. The partnership, the collaboration, which is how local government works. 1210 01:42:38,210 --> 01:42:47,310 It's been an exciting opportunity and I look forward to continuing that work with all of you and with the community large. 1211 01:42:48,700 --> 01:42:49,500 Thank you, Chris. 1212 01:42:55,510 --> 01:43:06,650 So I will work with Chris and I'm just signing up at the agenda so that we add discussion of the goals and then we can add in any contract discussion and the next accession as well. 1213 01:43:12,250 --> 01:43:37,270 I think, um, thank you for that, Antia. And I think, as, and maybe in the packet, I know Anthony and in a previous packet, we'd had Chris sort of self, self assessment of how he achieved in the goals. If we could line that all up together, right? This is the old set. This is his progress. This is the evaluation. And we can talk about the new goals. It'd be nice to see sort of some, the longitudinal kind of view of progress. 1214 01:43:38,430 --> 01:43:45,310 And kind of like our select bar goals, do we tweak some, do we extend some, do we consider some as completed, going into the next year? 1215 01:43:45,890 --> 01:43:50,690 If we could just look at that as the story and the journey, I think that would be helpful. 1216 01:43:50,930 --> 01:43:58,470 Because we're not going to start the goals from scratch, but we also can I think give credit where goal, what's a progress is made, and there's still some things to be done. 1217 01:43:58,610 --> 01:44:02,090 So if that can be part of the planning piece, I think that would help me. 1218 01:44:02,090 --> 01:44:06,010 I'm not going to have a different answer about Chris's contract, but we nice to have a different 1219 01:44:06,010 --> 01:44:11,610 perspective on goals, because not a ton of shifted from maybe February to today, but maybe for Chris, 1220 01:44:11,890 --> 01:44:16,270 his interest is slightly different, or maybe our need of for his focus is slightly different. 1221 01:44:16,610 --> 01:44:17,870 So thank you for that. 1222 01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:22,440 Thank you, Cecil. 1223 01:44:25,260 --> 01:44:28,020 Okay, so we've all transitioned over 1224 01:44:28,020 --> 01:44:34,300 then to what we have for new business. Bill, as we're here, I just want to check in with you 1225 01:44:35,020 --> 01:44:39,060 So, on timing are you good for another 15 to 20 more minutes? 1226 01:44:39,900 --> 01:44:45,800 Yeah, but we need a motion to renew Chris's contract to exercise the option for another year. 1227 01:44:46,020 --> 01:44:46,660 So I'll do that. 1228 01:44:46,660 --> 01:44:47,280 Thank you. 1229 01:44:47,340 --> 01:44:52,620 I'll move it to select board exercise the option to renew the time manager Chris senior through December 31, 1230 01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:57,160 2027 having reached his score of over 3.0 and his reviews. 1231 01:44:58,640 --> 01:44:59,440 Um... 1232 01:44:59,440 --> 01:44:59,560 Okay. 1233 01:45:06,930 --> 01:45:24,080 Second, second, second. I prefer to wait to see the court set up. I appreciate and I appreciate the contract and the fact that he needed to score above the three and we have to have review by September 30. I would like to wait and do all that at once. 1234 01:45:27,870 --> 01:45:39,870 That's not a requirement of the contract. So if you're asking for something that's outside the contract, you're putting us up for not adhering to what we agreed to or me. 1235 01:45:42,330 --> 01:45:48,770 And we in the contract have to make this decision by September 30 as well. 1236 01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:53,630 Yes, but if you're making your vote dependent upon something that is not contractually required, 1237 01:45:54,290 --> 01:45:56,750 that becomes a different sort of issue. 1238 01:45:58,210 --> 01:46:07,690 So this is just to as was stated in the contract to extend the contract through December 20, 1239 01:46:07,690 --> 01:46:12,790 27, it is not to stand the contract any further than that. 1240 01:46:12,870 --> 01:46:16,090 This is what we agreed to in December, January. 1241 01:46:21,250 --> 01:46:22,510 I appreciate that. 1242 01:46:35,550 --> 01:46:37,370 So we're not getting a second to those options. 1243 01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:52,220 So we will hold on to that for the next meeting. 1244 01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:54,820 Then we'll put the goals on for the next meeting. 1245 01:46:56,540 --> 01:46:57,740 Well, did I have a question, then? 1246 01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:58,140 Yeah. 1247 01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,760 What if we don't have consensus on goals? 1248 01:47:01,700 --> 01:47:05,340 What if the goals don't adhere to everybody's desire 1249 01:47:05,340 --> 01:47:09,000 for what they want across to do next year. 1250 01:47:09,780 --> 01:47:11,300 It's a, wait, wait, wait. 1251 01:47:11,300 --> 01:47:12,220 We have a process bill. 1252 01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:14,760 So, one is not the shellfish shellfish, 1253 01:47:14,940 --> 01:47:15,840 but it's not an independent product. 1254 01:47:16,380 --> 01:47:20,800 We had a contractual obligation based upon past performance. 1255 01:47:21,460 --> 01:47:26,000 And now you're saying that you want to base a vote upon future expectations. 1256 01:47:26,660 --> 01:47:29,480 That's shift in its outside the contract. 1257 01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:33,940 And so if we are going to start considering these extra contractual requirements 1258 01:47:33,940 --> 01:47:39,800 like you're now bringing up the very first time, I want to know whatever those going to be, 1259 01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:46,920 how are they factoring in, because that's not what his contract says, and I need to know that as I 1260 01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:48,860 consider what's coming into this next meeting. 1261 01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:56,660 One thing I specifically asked is to see 1262 01:47:56,660 --> 01:48:06,080 Chris's goals and his own self-assessment in the next packet. We can put period the end, right? Then 1263 01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:10,680 We could potentially take a vote on his contract, then we could talk about next year's goals. 1264 01:48:11,020 --> 01:48:16,120 They can be three distinct things, but I asked to see where we were in February, Chris's 1265 01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:20,300 self-assessment of achievement of those goals next to the feedback that we all prepared. 1266 01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:25,380 That is past performance. I'd like to close that loop in one packet with one story. 1267 01:48:27,020 --> 01:48:32,580 To be aware in the contract is as Chris's self-evaluated part of the one-year renewal set forth 1268 01:48:32,580 --> 01:48:36,280 because contract as voted upon by this select board last January? 1269 01:48:39,350 --> 01:48:39,950 It's not there. 1270 01:48:40,690 --> 01:48:40,850 Okay. 1271 01:48:41,150 --> 01:48:42,910 So why are we creating additional hurdles? 1272 01:48:44,270 --> 01:48:46,790 We should be adhering to the contracts that we signed. 1273 01:48:47,490 --> 01:48:50,750 That's the whole point of contracts that have expectation and finality. 1274 01:48:51,410 --> 01:48:54,050 I think that we do need to do the goals that you're saying. 1275 01:48:54,210 --> 01:48:57,130 And I think that should be part of a long return renewal. 1276 01:48:57,630 --> 01:49:02,610 But I have a very, very big problem if we're veering off of our contractual obligations 1277 01:49:02,610 --> 01:49:09,490 that were heavily deliberated and agreed upon and concerned Mr. Seniorists, right, as well as an 1278 01:49:09,490 --> 01:49:10,710 employee of this town. 1279 01:49:23,570 --> 01:49:28,110 Yeah, Mike, you have your hand raised. I also, if the contract was in our 1280 01:49:28,110 --> 01:49:36,210 packets, I'm happy to get rid of this, bring out that portion of this contract. Yeah, thanks, Anthony. 1281 01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:43,170 I think it makes sense for us to, you know, just wait and kind of get all that information and 1282 01:49:43,170 --> 01:49:48,290 everything, you know, for we're not asking for months just two weeks until our next meeting. 1283 01:49:48,530 --> 01:49:54,390 So we can, you know, have everybody on the same page and move forward and, you know, 1284 01:49:54,410 --> 01:49:58,270 support Chris's plan and our plan, you know, for years to come. 1285 01:49:58,430 --> 01:50:00,750 So I mean, that would be, that would be my sense. 1286 01:50:01,810 --> 01:50:08,850 So I didn't expect us to be voting, I didn't see that vote on the agenda. 1287 01:50:09,390 --> 01:50:09,910 So, 1288 01:50:12,050 --> 01:50:20,270 you know, I think it's fair that we wait and if we want to vote, then we should put that on the agenda, so that's there. 1289 01:50:20,330 --> 01:50:24,150 You know, the vote was on the agenda, Mike, there's a whole big yellow page. 1290 01:50:24,730 --> 01:50:25,250 Sorry, sorry. 1291 01:50:25,410 --> 01:50:25,510 Sorry. 1292 01:50:26,470 --> 01:50:26,510 Sorry. 1293 01:50:26,790 --> 01:50:27,850 I was on you. 1294 01:50:27,890 --> 01:50:29,430 In our packet, 1295 01:50:31,170 --> 01:50:35,690 And the fly sheet for this section, there is a proposed motion that the 1296 01:50:35,690 --> 01:50:38,590 sector exercise the option to renew time and as you're 1297 01:50:38,590 --> 01:50:42,330 cursing your through December 31st, 2027. 1298 01:50:43,890 --> 01:50:48,030 So, and see if I could, I think that that came out Friday, right? 1299 01:50:48,030 --> 01:50:51,330 So, we got the packet Friday and it was the agenda came out Thursday 1300 01:50:51,330 --> 01:50:52,870 to be in time for our Monday meeting. 1301 01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:57,850 So, you know, I don't, I don't, I mean, the packet always comes out Friday 1302 01:50:57,850 --> 01:51:04,010 with the votes that we're taking on that day, that's nothing new to any of us. 1303 01:51:04,090 --> 01:51:08,270 The thing, we have in the packet certain things to vote on that are in the agenda. 1304 01:51:10,670 --> 01:51:16,230 So, you know, then we, but for this it just says discussion and then, you know, the next day, 1305 01:51:16,410 --> 01:51:21,010 it, you know, we got the packet that says in it. So, I would prefer to wait a couple weeks, 1306 01:51:21,110 --> 01:51:26,250 so we can get all of the information and we can all be rolling in the same direction because, you know, 1307 01:51:26,250 --> 01:51:37,670 So it's, that's just my perspective at this point and now certainly be, you know, ready to vote it, you know, within the contractual timeline. 1308 01:51:40,700 --> 01:51:42,020 So I just want to be clear. 1309 01:51:43,540 --> 01:51:50,280 We receive a packet on Friday as we have since I joined the board in March of 2022. 1310 01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:59,820 Generally, we receive a packet which has a town manager's report and often provides guidance on what's happening in the packet. 1311 01:51:59,820 --> 01:52:11,560 For the past few meetings, we have have an updated packet that really clearly lays out a head of each piece of information in the packet. 1312 01:52:14,100 --> 01:52:14,760 What 1313 01:52:16,940 --> 01:52:25,980 the anticipated motion is, which I just read aloud, move it to support access as often to renew time manager for senior through December 31, 2027. 1314 01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,980 The additional information I also read about the value. 1315 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:36,480 Operation Project, what's in the contract? And then it says tonight's anticipated discussion is to review the cumulative 1316 01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:44,420 evaluation and comments and exercise to ensure the town manager received at least as far as satisfactory and vote to exercise the option to renew time manager 1317 01:52:44,420 --> 01:53:00,410 Christina through December 31, 2020, 7. So that should not be a surprise to any of the four of us here that that is what one was in the contract and two is as described based on the value, the evaluations that we completed in June. 1318 01:53:01,630 --> 01:53:05,830 or July. So the question is, 1319 01:53:08,550 --> 01:53:08,770 like, 1320 01:53:10,820 --> 01:53:15,940 do we want to second the motion, which is as described, 1321 01:53:16,140 --> 01:53:20,040 which everybody received on Friday and should have been prepared to vote on, 1322 01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:23,140 or are we not 1323 01:53:23,140 --> 01:53:27,100 seconding the motion? We're holding this to the next conversation where we're discussing goals, 1324 01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:34,740 which again is not part of what's in the contract. The contract is very specific to the evaluation itself. 1325 01:53:39,220 --> 01:53:44,580 So if there's not a second, we will postpone it to the next meeting, 1326 01:53:48,820 --> 01:53:53,740 that's also like the town manager at some levels. 1327 01:53:54,300 --> 01:54:01,840 So this is his contract. This is his work needs to agree that we're doing something. This is not within the contract. 1328 01:54:02,940 --> 01:54:08,660 And you know, that may very well be something that we need to kind of really counsel ourselves if we're going to try to do something different. 1329 01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:12,340 It's very much so we're now retraining on the deal. 1330 01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:13,560 Yeah, Chris, go ahead. 1331 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,160 Yeah, if I think that's everything you've done 1332 01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:16,220 a few degrees, please. 1333 01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,480 I appreciate that I can give you the all of you on this. 1334 01:54:19,860 --> 01:54:21,240 All positive conversations. 1335 01:54:22,820 --> 01:54:25,280 I, if, if, if, if, if, if, 1336 01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:29,140 if a couple of reasons more when I roll a goal is for another couple of weeks, 1337 01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:33,100 I haven't, I can set out the, I guess we send the package that I sent to all of you 1338 01:54:33,100 --> 01:54:34,380 in July. I know it's been a month. 1339 01:54:34,580 --> 01:54:35,260 I appreciate that. 1340 01:54:35,260 --> 01:54:38,300 I'll send the soft assessment that I prepared back 1341 01:54:38,300 --> 01:54:44,440 to all of you, have it have a conversation in two weeks. It's fine with me. All of you have already done 1342 01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:52,720 your evaluations. I've had a conversation with all of you. I'm comfortable with that. That's fine. 1343 01:54:52,980 --> 01:54:57,400 That's what I want to do. Let's go and wrap this in two weeks. I'm not comfortable with 1344 01:54:59,700 --> 01:54:59,700 that. 1345 01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:04,700 I appreciate that, Chris. But I really have problems presenting. It's like the word that 1346 01:55:04,700 --> 01:55:11,520 does not adhere to its contractual obligations and even if it's easy or takes the temperature 1347 01:55:12,100 --> 01:55:17,780 down, you know, contracts or contracts for a reason. And we agree the terms we should live 1348 01:55:17,780 --> 01:55:22,380 and dive by those terms. And right now, we're setting the example that we don't. 1349 01:55:27,750 --> 01:55:35,210 Yep, Bill, I hear you. There's not a second on this motion right now. So I don't think it's going 1350 01:55:35,210 --> 01:55:40,170 go on your work today and we'll put it on for our next meeting on the 24th. 1351 01:55:47,860 --> 01:55:53,040 So we're going to move on to new business. 1352 01:55:56,580 --> 01:55:59,120 We have a couple things here. 1353 01:56:02,130 --> 01:56:10,730 First, I was going to bounce a little bit out of order and go 3-1-2-4 if because Chris mentioned 1354 01:56:10,730 --> 01:56:19,510 already in his time managers report the November 5th fall town meeting deadlines. So there's been 1355 01:56:20,090 --> 01:56:28,730 communicated internally to staff about an August 28th date to kind of raise any 1356 01:56:32,650 --> 01:56:39,530 potential items I think as close as this work can stay to that August 28th date knowing 1357 01:56:39,530 --> 01:56:53,590 You know, we meet on the 24th and we meet on the 14th, it would be great if we could start to get any potential thoughts about where an items in circulation for our 24th meeting, the warrant closes on the 21st. 1358 01:56:53,610 --> 01:57:03,530 It doesn't mean that between the 24th and the 21st things might not change, but, you know, as soon as we can. 1359 01:57:04,990 --> 01:57:19,530 If there's something kind of formatting as soon as we know what that is, let's get that circulated, so we can kind of help that as a item for agenda for the next meeting, and then probably. 1360 01:57:19,530 --> 01:57:32,530 On to our agenda, we'll have time meeting through it starts in November and then just so we have the calendar in there and the packet, the warrant closes on the 21st. 1361 01:57:33,950 --> 01:57:39,790 It goes to Council on September 29th, motions and backgrounds are due October 1st. 1362 01:57:39,790 --> 01:57:44,930 We will meet on October 5th to vote on the warrant and then we'll go to the printer the next day. 1363 01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:52,930 motion book will get to council on the night and those will be mailed out to town meeting members on the 19th. 1364 01:57:56,710 --> 01:58:00,030 The motion was limited to town meeting members on the 19th. 1365 01:58:00,190 --> 01:58:07,010 People should have the warrant in hand in the mail October 22nd and the motion book should show up a week later. 1366 01:58:07,210 --> 01:58:09,150 So that's the overall calendar. 1367 01:58:09,150 --> 01:58:16,250 We are here again with time meeting such as things to be aware of. 1368 01:58:19,690 --> 01:58:25,430 We have a meeting posted on the 21st, which is a Monday, which is when the warrant closes. 1369 01:58:26,210 --> 01:58:28,150 We anticipate a meeting that day. 1370 01:58:30,230 --> 01:58:32,390 I'm just looking at our next schedule. 1371 01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:35,610 We only have the next two, the 24th and the 14th. 1372 01:58:35,610 --> 01:58:57,250 Yes, basically we would be that following week as well to vote it. It's just a labor day in there. So we I'm just looking at the calendar on my phone. So. Okay. Yeah, the next meeting is December 14th. So potentially, you might have to schedule another one because I think you did that point the 14th from the 28th. 1373 01:58:58,750 --> 01:59:05,970 Okay, so we need to be on the first two to about it. We can do that. 1374 01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:10,740 any further questions on? 1375 01:59:18,870 --> 01:59:21,290 So if you do have any potential 1376 01:59:22,150 --> 01:59:27,630 warrant items that we should be thinking of, let's plan to discuss those out our next meeting. 1377 01:59:28,150 --> 01:59:30,830 I have one for now. Oh, I know. If you'd like to hear it. Sure. 1378 01:59:32,370 --> 01:59:37,070 So it was kind of related to my earlier question in the Morocco Colvert, which is tied into one 1379 01:59:37,070 --> 01:59:40,590 dead exclusion. So Chris, hence the question about the funding and the timing. 1380 01:59:41,310 --> 01:59:46,070 and it was Culver and Morocco Life Extension. I wonder if we shouldn't 1381 01:59:46,070 --> 01:59:52,150 recent some borrowing or authority that's been open since 2021 I believe 1382 01:59:52,150 --> 01:59:57,510 or 2022. So if we think the project is close to done or maybe it would be done 1383 01:59:57,510 --> 01:59:59,710 November what we take it up for the spring. 1384 02:00:00,050 --> 02:00:11,590 But there were some questions from bond council, and when we made another, the last amendment at town meeting, I think we went into this now, three times. So maybe we're not ready on the culvert side. Are we ready in Morocco? 1385 02:00:11,590 --> 02:00:28,210 Life extension sites, since that school is in the MSBA cycle process. Just something to consider, and if there's any other borrowings, that we need to close out. Because that's often when we would do it as full town meeting. So maybe the culvert needs to be up, because what I've done yet, but I'd like us to look at that package. 1386 02:00:30,390 --> 02:00:37,510 Yeah, because it, and I see Stacey still I'm, so I suspect that maybe something that even 1387 02:00:37,510 --> 02:00:41,610 already came ahead with her questions to Chris, 1388 02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:48,180 might go ahead. 1389 02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:54,080 Thanks, Cynthia, one of, I don't know if it would be an article that would be coming 1390 02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:59,220 fall-time meeting that quickly, but one of the things that we've been discussing over 1391 02:00:59,220 --> 02:01:08,920 years pretty regularly is taking back certain private roads and or or the town adopting those 1392 02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:16,500 private roads as public roads and creating an avenue for people to live on certain streets to 1393 02:01:16,500 --> 02:01:23,640 do that. So I've been hearing I think it was a tough winter and I know all of the private roads 1394 02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:28,760 the DPW still maintains and they fill holes and they do that, but I think a lot of them 1395 02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:38,720 are just beyond repair and there's no mechanism that we have in place for those neighborhoods 1396 02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:47,280 to resolve that. There is a process through the state where the neighborhoods would put in 1397 02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:52,560 some money to bring them up to town standards. We would go to town meeting for that proposal 1398 02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:57,860 and then the town would adopt it and then it would become part of our, you know, 1399 02:01:58,120 --> 02:02:05,780 town owned public roads and we would then get chapter 90 money to maintain those in the future. 1400 02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:08,060 So, and I can work with Chris. 1401 02:02:08,260 --> 02:02:11,920 I know I've mentioned it a couple of times it just hasn't hit the ground yet, 1402 02:02:12,220 --> 02:02:16,360 but lately I've been getting a lot of phone calls about this. 1403 02:02:16,940 --> 02:02:22,500 So, certainly we can speak to the TMA and some other members about how to at least 1404 02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:28,580 can they a process that we can recommend, which would be the state process? 1405 02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:36,040 Yeah, so Mike and Michelle, I think it's both of those things that are going to be proposed for 1406 02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:42,980 articles if we can have them for the next packet so that we can review and discuss them if you can 1407 02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:52,480 either summarize and write them up or work with Chris to make sure that you have everything you need to 1408 02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:56,380 particularly thought to the board for our next meeting. That would be great. 1409 02:02:58,850 --> 02:02:59,190 Thank you. 1410 02:03:03,940 --> 02:03:08,140 All right, so we'll move on. The next thing is the State Primary Election Board. 1411 02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:18,820 So we have that our state primary is September, Tuesday, September 1st. We have the draft or we 1412 02:03:18,820 --> 02:03:25,360 have the election warrant for our signatures. I believe that's going to go out in DocuSign. 1413 02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:32,960 I think it is already in Docky, so check your Docky sign next to the woods. 1414 02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:36,720 Okay, Patty's a dot comes to me earlier today. 1415 02:03:36,820 --> 02:03:37,180 Yes. 1416 02:03:37,700 --> 02:03:38,160 Shoot. 1417 02:03:39,220 --> 02:03:42,400 I might be having a Docky sign issue then again. 1418 02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:43,620 Yes. 1419 02:03:43,740 --> 02:03:43,980 Okay. 1420 02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:51,720 As well, I don't know if you want to make it everyone else sign that and I will be last and hopefully 1421 02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:53,440 can figure it out. 1422 02:03:53,440 --> 02:04:00,040 And that worked the last time when I did make it so that you were last. So, um, it will, I'll read to it. 1423 02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:07,140 Okay. Thank you. Sorry. I didn't realize that that, that, that had already been sent. Sure. 1424 02:04:08,740 --> 02:04:17,580 Then, um, towards me first. Um, that said, uh, I know I believe we've, um, revised, uh, 1425 02:04:17,580 --> 02:04:26,720 the spelling of Bill's name in there so we can make a motion to approve and sign the 1426 02:04:27,900 --> 02:04:36,070 warrant. Move that we approve the warrant for approve and sign the warrant for the 1427 02:04:36,070 --> 02:04:41,830 October 2026 State Primary as presented and authorized its posting in service and accordance with 1428 02:04:41,830 --> 02:04:45,230 national laws and the towns applicable requirements. 1429 02:04:46,190 --> 02:04:46,710 Okay. 1430 02:04:47,670 --> 02:04:47,750 Okay. 1431 02:04:47,750 --> 02:04:47,790 Okay. 1432 02:04:48,650 --> 02:04:50,410 Well, call the bill. 1433 02:04:50,870 --> 02:04:51,570 I'm like. 1434 02:04:52,530 --> 02:04:52,830 Yes. 1435 02:04:53,590 --> 02:04:53,790 Michelle? 1436 02:04:54,470 --> 02:04:54,530 Yes. 1437 02:04:55,130 --> 02:04:55,390 All right. 1438 02:04:55,390 --> 02:04:55,610 I vote. 1439 02:04:55,830 --> 02:04:56,870 Yes, as well. 1440 02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:01,540 Also, thank you. 1441 02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:02,300 Thank you, Mary Ellen. 1442 02:05:02,420 --> 02:05:04,700 Because her office is going to be doing a lot of work. 1443 02:05:04,900 --> 02:05:07,720 I'll go between now and September first. 1444 02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:09,440 All right. 1445 02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:11,240 So we have an impact. 1446 02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:18,780 There's just something that Bill had pulled together from a suggestion for kickoff for a 1447 02:05:18,780 --> 02:05:29,040 long range financial planning committee and basically this is just sort of working around 1448 02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:35,920 a kickoff meeting and having kind of a survey for that kickoff meeting for the members 1449 02:05:35,920 --> 02:05:36,400 of that meeting. 1450 02:05:36,500 --> 02:05:39,880 So, Bill, I will turn it over to you on- 1451 02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:45,060 Yeah. There's not much more than that. Um, obviously we need to figure out who else we're 1452 02:05:45,060 --> 02:05:50,120 pointing at or next meeting. Uh, but this is just a way of collecting best times for 1453 02:05:50,120 --> 02:05:57,220 all of our members to meet, so we can find that time and get it going. I also lifted, uh, the same 1454 02:05:57,220 --> 02:06:03,300 survey questions that were recently used by the Affordable Housing Trust to prepare and structure 1455 02:06:03,300 --> 02:06:11,240 there. Recently, we are getting meeting. It was very, very successful. A lot of people walked 1456 02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:16,000 out of it, saying that it helped organize the discussion and pointed in a very productive 1457 02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:20,840 direction. So we actually started talking about what needed to be done and not just where we 1458 02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:28,840 know still. So instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, I figured it was a good opportunity to use 1459 02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:32,140 that same process here, as we also tried to find times 1460 02:06:32,140 --> 02:06:34,180 for the long-term financial planning committee survey, 1461 02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:36,700 long-term financial planning committee, 1462 02:06:36,700 --> 02:06:37,820 it actually would need. 1463 02:06:43,140 --> 02:06:45,900 So as the other select board member on this committee, 1464 02:06:46,140 --> 02:06:47,800 I hadn't seen the survey, though I appreciate 1465 02:06:48,230 --> 02:06:50,240 we need to get some times. 1466 02:06:50,300 --> 02:06:51,860 We did, as I mentioned earlier, 1467 02:06:52,340 --> 02:06:54,000 we were interviewing Jean-Deptaste. 1468 02:06:54,440 --> 02:06:57,520 We did have a view of the model, the model on July 29th, 1469 02:06:57,620 --> 02:06:59,200 then I went on vacation August 1st. 1470 02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:14,580 The goal would be bill, and I know I did not circle back with you on that either, but that generally, my sense in the model meeting, we had a couple of school committee people, the two at large members, Chris was able to make it Stacy was not. 1471 02:07:15,420 --> 02:07:18,760 I think people that are there have reached their hands and volunteered to be there. 1472 02:07:18,820 --> 02:07:25,760 I think what people's personal contributions could be is a great question, but I think everyone that kind of raised their hand has shown their interest in why. 1473 02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:29,960 So, we can still survey, or we can do whatever, but as... 1474 02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:59,880 Is it relates to the pick-off meeting to launch when we get the last at large member? I would like us to sort of, if it's going to be in person versus a high, you know, some in person, some on Zoom. I'd like it to potentially be at the end of a work day, like a Monday, late afternoon or early evening, maybe on a Monday that we don't have a meeting, or a Tuesday or Wednesday, right after town hall closes, so that town staff, like Stacey and Chris and whoever Chris's office may need to attend, and school superintendent and finance director can, 1475 02:07:59,880 --> 02:08:04,920 not have to dial back in or stay in town if we expect to be in person that you know most of the time. 1476 02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:09,220 So I'd like to have that as a consideration like a four or five six o'clock. 1477 02:08:10,700 --> 02:08:14,360 On a Monday or right after you know the day ends. 1478 02:08:14,820 --> 02:08:18,000 So that's I'd said that to the few folks that were there from the model conversation. 1479 02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:22,140 I'd like to sort of see if we can't land in that time frame. 1480 02:08:22,500 --> 02:08:23,660 I'm happy to do that Michelle. 1481 02:08:24,220 --> 02:08:26,000 That's best for my schedule as well. 1482 02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:33,460 And when this is finalized and put out, we can limit the options so that we steer people at that direction. 1483 02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:37,520 I think it's best for everybody else and you're right. 1484 02:08:38,260 --> 02:08:52,160 Yeah, so I was going to I was going to share that update tonight that that was that we had the model update that we tried to land on managed expectations on late afternoon kinds of meetings that we likely have one of the large members 1485 02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:58,820 willing to hold the model along with potentially one of the fincon members, and we do want to bring 1486 02:08:58,820 --> 02:09:02,160 Stacy back in as well. She wasn't able to join us. She was on vacation that I went on vacation, 1487 02:09:02,440 --> 02:09:06,720 but we should think about who were the keepers. We don't have too many people and they were at the 1488 02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:10,660 authority. So we can work through some of those details in the first meeting as well. 1489 02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:19,340 So why don't it sounds like the two of you should coordinate with Chris was easy finding those 1490 02:09:19,340 --> 02:09:27,880 in times to kind of nail that piece down and then Michelle if you have any additional feedback 1491 02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:36,020 with the bill on kind of the survey I understand from folks who attended that age team meeting 1492 02:09:36,020 --> 02:09:44,540 that they believe appreciated being able to kind of articulate why they why they were there or 1493 02:09:44,540 --> 02:09:48,300 of what kind of lay things out on the table. 1494 02:09:49,380 --> 02:09:52,240 First, so if there's other things, 1495 02:09:52,460 --> 02:09:57,060 maybe they too, do you can look together on just sort of this? 1496 02:09:57,820 --> 02:10:02,380 Kick off agenda survey timing, peace. 1497 02:10:03,440 --> 02:10:04,700 Yep, let's note on the day, 1498 02:10:04,700 --> 02:10:06,380 and I think we can figure out the invite 1499 02:10:06,380 --> 02:10:09,120 and the questions to walk in with the answers too. 1500 02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:10,580 But make sense. 1501 02:10:10,820 --> 02:10:11,480 I'm really great. 1502 02:10:11,480 --> 02:10:12,580 I'll be in touch with you Michelle. 1503 02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:14,320 Give me some time, 1504 02:10:14,320 --> 02:10:15,900 because I'm about to go international. 1505 02:10:17,900 --> 02:10:17,920 Yeah. 1506 02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:18,820 And I have applications. 1507 02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:19,960 Okay. 1508 02:10:20,700 --> 02:10:20,960 All right. 1509 02:10:21,120 --> 02:10:22,500 Tag your situation. 1510 02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:24,360 What it feels like in every week. 1511 02:10:24,740 --> 02:10:25,300 Someone else. 1512 02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:25,860 All right. 1513 02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:26,980 I can do that. 1514 02:10:32,030 --> 02:10:34,010 So the last thing that we have had 1515 02:10:34,010 --> 02:10:38,730 of me as business ahead of minutes is 1516 02:10:39,730 --> 02:10:42,270 thinking of developing some select board norms. 1517 02:10:44,230 --> 02:10:47,990 Anthony had or Kristen Anthony kind of had some familiarity 1518 02:10:47,990 --> 02:10:54,950 with a couple different examples that they've pulled in from Nidak and from Brookline, something we've 1519 02:10:56,070 --> 02:11:17,970 talked about a little bit, as we talk about select board goals and our kind of long-term things that we're 1520 02:11:19,860 --> 02:11:29,140 thinking that Bill and Mike could work together on taking these documents that we have 1521 02:11:29,140 --> 02:11:32,860 native bookline taking a look at them seeing if there's anything else that might come 1522 02:11:32,860 --> 02:11:41,100 through the MMA and trying to nail down a similar one-pager for us as a select board 1523 02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:46,180 that can be shared back with the board for comments and feedback and consideration. 1524 02:11:48,170 --> 02:11:55,570 Yeah, thanks, Cynthia, for putting this on, you know, I've been asking for a while, you know, 1525 02:11:55,630 --> 02:12:01,570 over the years, and it's just one of those things that was, we would just get so busy, and 1526 02:12:01,570 --> 02:12:06,550 it was kind of like so important that we didn't want to just rush it, and so it does take a 1527 02:12:06,550 --> 02:12:12,450 little bit of intention, and I think focusing on our governance at this point makes sense. 1528 02:12:12,450 --> 02:12:13,970 So happy to work with Bill on it. 1529 02:12:14,090 --> 02:12:20,590 We've already talked a little bit about it and I know Keras sent over some of these examples 1530 02:12:20,590 --> 02:12:27,890 from other communities, but it's kind of, you know, we Bill and I can put some information 1531 02:12:27,890 --> 02:12:33,550 forward, but kind of, I guess, similar to the survey strategy to see what everybody thinks 1532 02:12:33,550 --> 02:12:39,310 first with some ideas of whether communities do and then put together our own, which will 1533 02:12:39,310 --> 02:12:43,650 always change. I know the school committees have the benefit of having theirs established 1534 02:12:43,650 --> 02:12:51,210 and they change those from time to time and but it's good to kind of just kind of set 1535 02:12:51,210 --> 02:12:55,030 up the playing field and get everybody on the same page. So thank you. 1536 02:12:58,010 --> 02:12:58,410 It's like 1537 02:13:04,070 --> 02:13:06,630 anything to add there. 1538 02:13:07,590 --> 02:13:13,410 No, I mean this is this is overdue. I think getting a document that can become a discussion is 1539 02:13:13,410 --> 02:13:19,530 important thing. And I see a lot of good inspiration from the examples that Anthony sent on. 1540 02:13:20,050 --> 02:13:21,850 So I'm glad to get this going. 1541 02:13:25,190 --> 02:13:27,510 Uh, I, since I know you're, um, 1542 02:13:28,290 --> 02:13:31,930 haven't lately been country, uh, this might take more than the next two weeks. 1543 02:13:32,530 --> 02:13:35,870 So I expect this probably not on our packet on the 24th, but maybe come back 1544 02:13:35,870 --> 02:13:41,690 around to us in September. Um, so we'll just stay in touch on on timeline for that. 1545 02:13:41,690 --> 02:13:45,690 but I appreciate the willingness to take this on 1546 02:13:46,410 --> 02:13:48,970 and kind of get us a good document 1547 02:13:48,970 --> 02:13:50,210 that we can start to put with. 1548 02:13:51,490 --> 02:13:52,430 You have my go ahead. 1549 02:13:53,050 --> 02:13:54,590 Yeah, the only thing I would say is maybe 1550 02:13:54,590 --> 02:13:58,230 beven on is a kind of static item for the next several meetings, 1551 02:13:58,510 --> 02:14:01,810 just kind of as like an update just so it's there in case 1552 02:14:01,810 --> 02:14:04,250 we want to put some information there, 1553 02:14:04,430 --> 02:14:06,610 just so the community can have some visibility to it 1554 02:14:06,610 --> 02:14:08,950 because I hear a lot from people say, 1555 02:14:09,230 --> 02:14:11,190 hey, why don't you do this or so and so? 1556 02:14:11,190 --> 02:14:16,770 as long as people see that we're working on it and can weigh in as well and be involved, 1557 02:14:16,910 --> 02:14:23,490 I think that'll be helpful. But to your point, I think, you know, no real significant action items 1558 02:14:23,490 --> 02:14:33,730 at our next meeting. So that's good. Then the last piece that we have is 1559 02:14:36,170 --> 02:14:44,050 minutes, so these are minutes from June 15th, 1829, and then July 27th meetings. 1560 02:14:44,510 --> 02:14:50,410 We're not interested to look at those if there's any edits there or we can approve those. 1561 02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:59,800 I'll move the slide board approves the minutes from June 15th, June 18th, June 29th. 1562 02:15:00,020 --> 02:15:04,140 And July 27, 2026, second. 1563 02:15:06,200 --> 02:15:06,840 Any discussion? 1564 02:15:11,020 --> 02:15:19,280 Roll call, Michelle? Aye. Mike? Yes. Bill? Aye. I vote, yes, as well. 1565 02:15:22,380 --> 02:15:24,780 So we said it at a number of times, 1566 02:15:24,940 --> 02:15:34,880 or meeting on Monday, August 24th, we will plan to be back in person on the 24th and then meeting on Monday, September 14th. 1567 02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:37,600 of their things that come up around town meeting. 1568 02:15:38,900 --> 02:15:41,520 Let's try to get those in the packet for their 24th, 1569 02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:42,820 since I bought the tree meeting, 1570 02:15:43,620 --> 02:15:46,860 the tree hearing for a 612 main street at that time, 1571 02:15:47,060 --> 02:15:48,080 as well. 1572 02:15:51,610 --> 02:15:52,890 And I know for a lot of things. 1573 02:15:54,250 --> 02:15:56,850 No one are unknown, we'll show up. 1574 02:15:57,510 --> 02:15:59,370 So are we gonna take a motion to adjourn? 1575 02:16:01,230 --> 02:16:04,270 Mike, is your hand up for a reason before we adjourn? 1576 02:16:06,660 --> 02:16:07,580 No, sorry. 1577 02:16:07,580 --> 02:16:14,060 more than you should. I was like wow. I lost my picture of me on my screen so I didn't see 1578 02:16:14,060 --> 02:16:15,100 that I still have it up. Sorry. 1579 02:16:17,620 --> 02:16:20,000 Motion to which are. I can't second. 1580 02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:31,040 Okay, roll call. All right, yes. Yes. Yes, as well. All right. Thank you everyone. Have a good night. 1581 02:16:31,680 --> 02:16:36,620 Thank you, Patty, for keeping the Zoom running and thank you again for posting this. 1582 02:16:36,620 --> 02:16:37,680 They found Bill. 1583 02:16:37,900 --> 02:16:38,360 Thank you. 1584 02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:38,940 Thanks Chris. 1585 02:16:39,060 --> 02:16:40,380 Enjoy your trip though. 1586 02:16:41,220 --> 02:16:41,860 Thank you all. 1587 02:16:42,040 --> 02:16:42,400 See you back.