1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:24,720 26th meeting of the historic preservation commission to all apologies. I'm running about three minutes late. So, close to item only agenda, if I'll look at the right page is approval of the minutes from the August 19th meeting. So, if the members could please review the minutes, offer any corrections or amendments, or please offer a motion. 2 00:00:29,020 --> 00:00:32,340 Motion to approve. We have a motion to approve. 3 00:00:32,340 --> 00:00:33,020 Do we have a second? 4 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,620 I have a second. 5 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:37,960 That was first. All in favor? 6 00:00:39,380 --> 00:00:40,300 The motion passes. 7 00:00:40,620 --> 00:00:40,860 Okay. 8 00:00:41,420 --> 00:00:42,200 New business. 9 00:00:42,740 --> 00:00:49,940 First item on the agenda is for a COA for installation of signage at 63 West Candler Street. 10 00:00:50,380 --> 00:00:52,840 Map and parcel number are in your packet. 11 00:00:53,740 --> 00:01:00,740 If there's anybody here from the, from the occupant or the private. 12 00:01:01,580 --> 00:01:03,080 Can you please state your name? 13 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,020 A.J. Burke-Hammer. I'm representing Unity Integrated Health. 14 00:01:11,380 --> 00:01:15,620 And this is just for the pictures here. 15 00:01:26,410 --> 00:01:30,290 And this is just for a single lamp post sign outside. 16 00:01:30,850 --> 00:01:34,630 It looks like a lamp post that's on the column. 17 00:01:34,910 --> 00:01:35,050 It's really? 18 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:35,690 Okay. 19 00:01:35,810 --> 00:01:38,330 It was just the Photoshop thing that it looked. 20 00:01:41,970 --> 00:01:43,730 Okay, so it'd be on the corner of that column. 21 00:01:44,290 --> 00:01:44,530 Okay. 22 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,600 So not covering up the lamp post. 23 00:01:51,700 --> 00:01:52,180 This 24 00:01:59,660 --> 00:02:02,540 is the same corner or this is a different, this is a different corner here. 25 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:04,840 Okay, so it'll be two signs on different corners. 26 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Okay. 27 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,620 H17 is a map, I'm showing you which corner so I have a side. 28 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,180 Okay, they'll be published at that. 29 00:02:14,780 --> 00:02:15,260 Okay. 30 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:23,560 And the sign meets all the dimensions requirements for the local sign ordinance. 31 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:29,440 So do the members have any questions? 32 00:02:33,180 --> 00:02:36,140 On page 16, 33 00:02:41,010 --> 00:02:43,630 the second sign that you proposed 34 00:02:44,270 --> 00:02:47,430 is this on the back corner of the building? 35 00:02:48,270 --> 00:02:49,750 So yes sir. 36 00:02:50,210 --> 00:02:52,150 So let's see what page is this. 37 00:02:53,710 --> 00:02:58,910 Page 17 or the last page there should be kind of like an overview. 38 00:02:59,590 --> 00:03:01,150 Is this on the back corner? 39 00:03:01,150 --> 00:03:08,270 It is the back corner. It's the side that's faces of symmetry. 40 00:03:09,090 --> 00:03:16,770 It's on the side that faces the street that the missing clock lodge and the macaque. 41 00:03:17,650 --> 00:03:19,630 Thank you. 42 00:03:19,950 --> 00:03:24,970 To be a little more specific on the diagram, they've got it on the corner, however, 43 00:03:25,230 --> 00:03:29,490 where the placement will actually be is between the two pine trees where it will come 44 00:03:30,390 --> 00:03:33,950 That way, when they come down the road, you can see it from the full length of the road 45 00:03:33,950 --> 00:03:35,150 until you come to the intersection. 46 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,860 And you said on this first one, that the sign is going to be posted on the building, 47 00:03:49,140 --> 00:03:49,760 on the curb. 48 00:03:50,340 --> 00:03:53,340 Yes, it looks like it's on a flagpole, yes, sir. 49 00:03:54,500 --> 00:03:55,540 And that's okay. 50 00:03:57,260 --> 00:04:00,380 And these don't look like they have any lighting or anything like that. 51 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:01,020 They're just the same. 52 00:04:01,020 --> 00:04:01,340 No, ma'am. 53 00:04:14,980 --> 00:04:15,880 Can you have the questions? 54 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,800 Thank you. 55 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,000 Thank you. 56 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,340 Do we have any members of the public that would like to speak? 57 00:04:26,790 --> 00:04:26,970 No. 58 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:27,690 Okay. 59 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:31,110 Bring it back to the table. 60 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:35,110 Does anybody have any discussion points or motions? 61 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:40,590 Is that a motion? 62 00:04:40,750 --> 00:04:40,890 Okay. 63 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,190 We have a second from Brandon, all in favor? 64 00:04:46,330 --> 00:04:47,790 Motion passes unanimously. 65 00:04:48,630 --> 00:04:49,590 Thank you very much. 66 00:04:50,030 --> 00:04:51,070 Appreciate you coming. 67 00:04:51,850 --> 00:04:52,170 Okay. 68 00:04:53,150 --> 00:04:59,610 The next and last item on our agenda is for discussion and 69 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:29,980 Regulations for nominating historic property or site for recognition by the HPC. This is something that we've discussed in the past. That would be posted on, we'd recognize it and it would be posted on social media. So, the nominations are in your packet there. We want to just kind of go around the table with people who made nominations and just very briefly explained. 70 00:05:29,980 --> 00:05:31,900 explain why they made the nomination. 71 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:33,720 So, okay. 72 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,740 I think if you just maybe you first and then do just in order, 73 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,180 but the order of the package. 74 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:41,600 Okay. 75 00:05:43,940 --> 00:05:45,740 Let's talk on the court about it to you. 76 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,340 And I was wondering if we could also kind of come up 77 00:05:48,340 --> 00:05:52,760 with like some criteria or like things that would help us 78 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,720 choose like things to look for, you know, 79 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:58,820 not like requirements, but maybe like some like things 80 00:05:58,820 --> 00:06:05,980 So we're kind of all on the same page like are we looking for ones that have already been restored are we looking for ones just based on 81 00:06:05,980 --> 00:06:14,500 Historic value as they are and then if they have been restored are we looking for ones that have kept to the period you know strictly like that kind of thing 82 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:28,800 Are we just looking for like what are we looking for I guess okay, and are we gonna stick to just ones in the historic district or are we okay 83 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,200 before it would be historic district. 84 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,680 I know when I got a friend in the call saying, 85 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,100 we forgot to look, but I was strictly trying to stay 86 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:43,020 within the historic even though, 87 00:06:43,780 --> 00:06:45,720 I mean, I knew pretty much where the boundaries were 88 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:46,680 and trying 89 00:06:49,340 --> 00:06:50,240 to stick it in. 90 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,480 I'm going to recall that we had talked about things 91 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,440 maybe outside the historic district 92 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,760 if they were, you know. 93 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:57,960 Of a certain age. 94 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,520 Yeah, of a certain age, I think. 95 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,460 Yeah, that would be great to raise awareness. 96 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,840 I mean, it'll open it up more. 97 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,260 On the center street, it's about a block and a half next door 98 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:11,080 to the pet in half, which was the Valley Jennings house. 99 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,500 It's where it ends from the things that are happening, 100 00:07:16,020 --> 00:07:16,680 that's absolutely. 101 00:07:17,260 --> 00:07:17,420 Yeah. 102 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,240 And the district boundaries are a little bit, 103 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,100 they're almost 40 years old. 104 00:07:21,740 --> 00:07:23,840 So we're looking at years. 105 00:07:24,580 --> 00:07:26,020 I'm just saying that the district boundaries 106 00:07:26,020 --> 00:07:28,020 were originally developed like 40 years ago. 107 00:07:28,020 --> 00:07:32,700 So they, as you know, they excluded, you know, certain older neighborhoods. 108 00:07:33,140 --> 00:07:38,820 So I think it's worth, you know, me personally, I mean, everybody else joined in, 109 00:07:38,820 --> 00:07:44,180 but I think it's worth bringing up other properties if we feel that they're significant. 110 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,420 Well, my thought was, I didn't know at the beginning that we were supposed to do with the historic district. 111 00:07:50,420 --> 00:07:58,520 So the two nominations that I have are totally without side of the historical boundaries, 112 00:07:58,980 --> 00:08:03,880 but they have a age and they have a history. 113 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:12,340 And I think as long as we're in the city limits, I think those things still matter. 114 00:08:13,060 --> 00:08:15,000 I don't think we should overlook them. 115 00:08:16,140 --> 00:08:18,800 It's good to keep those things in the historic district. 116 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:25,820 We definitely want to acknowledge those, but I think Wyndham has a history and it's not all in just that one area. 117 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Okay, 118 00:08:29,820 --> 00:08:35,200 so would everybody generally agree that we can look outside the historic district for that? 119 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:42,960 And Andrew's point, as far as certain criteria, what would we be looking for? 120 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:49,220 So I thought we had talked about and maybe I misunderstood or maybe this is just my brain. 121 00:08:49,940 --> 00:09:01,460 We were looking for those properties where the owners and not just kept it up but also made it a prized possession property, right? 122 00:09:02,020 --> 00:09:11,260 So that's the criteria I was looking at like, okay, I know we've got some historical buildings but had it been kept up, are they being run down, etc. 123 00:09:11,260 --> 00:09:38,160 So I think if we're going to highlight a property by opinion would be, we highlight those properties particularly, at the beginning, who have to, the homeowners who have taken the time to keep the property looking historical and adding to it with its landscaping or keeping up with just the way the exterior maintenance, et cetera, and not just say, hey, well, this is historical. 124 00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:59,880 I agree with you, Brandon, because I think if all of the houses that we look at, and most of the ones that we're probably thinking about, may not have the same owner, but the houses have been maintained, and they feel their presence. 125 00:10:00,370 --> 00:10:29,430 There, you know, dropping out of the street, their presence still, you still, you know, look, and it looks, the curb appeal is without question. And I don't think we, I'm not going to say we should acknowledge the fact that there are houses that are historical, but they've been, they've not been maintained at all. And I think for us to acknowledge those people who have gone through the, 126 00:10:30,410 --> 00:10:36,950 the heartache in the back breaking work to maintain their houses should be acknowledged period. 127 00:10:37,410 --> 00:10:38,970 At least at the beginning of all this. 128 00:10:39,610 --> 00:10:41,530 Let's highlight the best and the best. 129 00:10:41,890 --> 00:10:50,170 And then if we somehow get to the end of that list and we need more, then we maybe start looking at some of those other properties. 130 00:10:51,730 --> 00:11:05,970 And if we do look at some of those other processes, not really just to maintain that might be an opportunity for someone, for someone, maybe to come in and see, and they may take it over. 131 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:13,290 I don't think we should not ignore, I don't think we should ignore them, but I don't think we should make them a trial. 132 00:11:13,550 --> 00:11:15,250 I'm not a top trial. 133 00:11:15,970 --> 00:11:18,170 They still maintain the historical sense. 134 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:29,420 Does that have general agreement or approval from some folks, okay? 135 00:11:30,180 --> 00:11:35,380 Does that satisfy your question about light sentence and parameters for this? 136 00:11:35,740 --> 00:11:36,420 Yes, that helps. 137 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,080 Yeah, and what about like age? 138 00:11:38,260 --> 00:11:41,200 How far back do we want to go as far as age range? 139 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Well, national registry criteria has to be at least 50 years of age, so that's fine, okay. 140 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,520 I'm just an auntie. I haven't had a historic yet. 141 00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:09,570 Okay. Well, if everybody's in agreement with that, then we can just, we'll go in the 142 00:12:09,570 --> 00:12:16,910 order of the packet here. And since I'm the first one in here, I'll go ahead. My two 143 00:12:16,910 --> 00:12:24,010 Two were 25 West Camers, Candler Street, that's the Jackson Johnson House, and then 47 North Jackson Street. 144 00:12:24,770 --> 00:12:30,830 The first one I kind of highlighted kind of through your second point, highlighting properties that need a little bit of TLC. 145 00:12:31,770 --> 00:12:39,430 This property's on the national register and I just thought by recognizing that it might prompt a little bit of awareness for it. 146 00:12:39,810 --> 00:12:44,310 Because it is very architecturally significant house. 147 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:49,550 And then the second one was the night sky coffee roaster place. 148 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:56,210 Those folks there, as I understand it, they used this sort of preservation tax credits to do all the right things with the building. 149 00:12:56,550 --> 00:13:01,950 And this kind of shows how preservation can really contribute to economic development. 150 00:13:16,820 --> 00:13:36,740 I just think it's so beautiful and I kind of looked at some pictures beforehand and but I mean it just has great 151 00:13:37,380 --> 00:13:39,180 That's really what I went off of. 152 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,480 They didn't do a whole lot. 153 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,760 I think the only thing that I noticed of like difference is like the back porch, they opened it up. 154 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:50,580 That's the only thing I noticed, but I think it's beautiful. 155 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:57,860 I just kind of went by like, you know, just keeping it but making it beautiful. 156 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:04,520 And then the 88 North Center Street, I just think that house pops. 157 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,400 like when you when 158 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:17,650 you when you go into that street that's the entrance of the 159 00:14:20,790 --> 00:14:28,470 historic so I think it kind of sets the tone or it can that's kind of I went by 160 00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:36,190 curb appeal I really did I just need to get rid of that album that's almost a 161 00:14:39,190 --> 00:14:41,610 And the packet is a limb? 162 00:14:43,130 --> 00:14:43,530 Yeah. 163 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,500 Well, we did the old athlete task too. 164 00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:53,020 So that was one of them. 165 00:14:53,620 --> 00:14:58,640 And then this house, which is also on the straight. 166 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:01,880 I don't know if this, I 167 00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:20,940 don't remember if this is the one Christmas, it's out within our next door to it. I don't know. I think that's the one where she lives, but it was very made and well-capped and it looked like a brick. You know, claiming to that kind of thing. 168 00:15:20,940 --> 00:15:28,540 Well, that's been happening right there next to, uh, Miss, uh, Paisley's factors. 169 00:15:29,180 --> 00:15:29,380 Yeah. 170 00:15:46,190 --> 00:15:50,680 Next in the packet is the brand of it. 171 00:15:53,340 --> 00:15:53,860 Two. 172 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:06,480 I chose this for a couple different reasons, one, when I think of this, just a historical 173 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,860 neighborhood or historical buildings, like this one is top of my list every time. 174 00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:19,460 And this date prior to 1920, I don't know a whole bunch about it, I just remembered that 175 00:16:19,460 --> 00:16:24,280 my great-granddaddy wanted to bat for my great-grandmother, and she refused to move. 176 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,440 They lived on broad street, but so I knew it went back that far to that way. 177 00:16:29,140 --> 00:16:31,500 Yeah, I just love to love with this house. 178 00:16:31,660 --> 00:16:39,460 I love how they've opened up the porch, which I would assume, was how it was built, and then 179 00:16:39,460 --> 00:16:46,460 how they were able to create that rot iron fencing with the brick posts, but they were able 180 00:16:46,460 --> 00:16:50,620 to closely match the natural brick of the home. 181 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,740 The landscaping is amazing. 182 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,100 It's just, it's a gym for the city. 183 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,380 That was the time they had closed that open porch 184 00:17:00,380 --> 00:17:02,000 and for sleeping for. 185 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:05,360 It's a real good thing that it's come back to beds. 186 00:17:05,740 --> 00:17:09,160 Yes, it's very nice and appealing. 187 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,900 The second property is 85 North Center Street. 188 00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:18,900 It actually sits on the other side at the beginning of the historical district. 189 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:26,440 Yeah, the wares, I believe, the folks that lived there, they have always done an amazing job. 190 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,520 The people before them, they bought a fun, did an amazing job. 191 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,400 I think it was Tommy Jennings, the old one. 192 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:33,200 It was. 193 00:17:33,620 --> 00:17:33,800 Yeah. 194 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:40,220 It was, and it dates back probably to the early part of the century and maybe a little bit before. 195 00:17:40,220 --> 00:17:42,500 or there was a Brooks, your chance to get rid of that. 196 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,260 I lived there. 197 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:45,620 Did you? 198 00:17:45,740 --> 00:17:45,980 Yes. 199 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:46,880 I did. 200 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,700 A friend of mine lived there, and I was moving 201 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:50,620 to another apartment. 202 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:51,800 It wasn't there. 203 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:52,740 Is that a motion? 204 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:53,360 Is that a minute? 205 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:53,920 Yes. 206 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:56,920 I lived there. 207 00:17:57,700 --> 00:18:00,180 Yeah, it's just another one with a great curb appeal. 208 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,260 They've done an amazing job of keeping this historicity 209 00:18:03,260 --> 00:18:04,200 of the night. 210 00:18:06,670 --> 00:18:10,110 I bet one of my best friends lived there, 211 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:12,110 and they started the renovation on their house. 212 00:18:12,110 --> 00:18:20,370 I don't remember the year, but they ended up selling it to Tom and Jennings and Tom 213 00:18:20,370 --> 00:18:25,490 he started, you know, finished up the renovations and everything so the house 214 00:18:25,490 --> 00:18:31,270 maintained as far as what I know is on the interior had maintained all of 215 00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:40,490 this historic work. The staircase, the molding, all of that was still there. They 216 00:18:40,490 --> 00:18:43,970 They did very little modernization to it. 217 00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:48,570 They just kept the spaces as it was, and like the living room and the dining room 218 00:18:48,570 --> 00:18:49,270 and all of that. 219 00:18:50,650 --> 00:18:52,430 And they didn't change the thing. 220 00:18:52,590 --> 00:18:57,350 They just made sure they just took the paint off of a lot of the old woodwork 221 00:18:57,350 --> 00:18:59,290 and got it back to natural. 222 00:19:01,190 --> 00:19:02,950 And the houses looked the same. 223 00:19:02,990 --> 00:19:06,590 This is almost the way it looked, right, before the first page. 224 00:19:06,590 --> 00:19:08,610 That's the first way it looked when they- 225 00:19:08,610 --> 00:19:10,550 And it's considered a three-story house. 226 00:19:10,750 --> 00:19:10,930 Yes. 227 00:19:11,970 --> 00:19:14,470 The attic is still open. 228 00:19:14,990 --> 00:19:16,790 But it's still maintained. 229 00:19:17,070 --> 00:19:21,570 If I agree with you 100% on this historical value, it is maintained that. 230 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:27,030 Andrea, you were next to me. 231 00:19:29,330 --> 00:19:35,490 So I nominated, actually nominated 112 and 180, which is next to it. 232 00:19:35,550 --> 00:19:37,910 But it's outside of the district. 233 00:19:39,450 --> 00:19:41,970 And this picture doesn't really do it justice. 234 00:19:41,970 --> 00:19:57,050 It looks even better, I think, than this second picture because there's a lot more landscaping now, but they just did a fantastic job, it's the original owner, it's been in the family, the same family for regeneration. 235 00:19:57,050 --> 00:19:58,710 I think this is Christmas XS. 236 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:23,860 Yeah, so his grandfather or great-grandfather? Yeah, grandfather. And so, yeah, so he moved back in and they totally renovated it inside and out. And he owns that two-storey house next door with a choir. And that one was in real disrepair when they took that one back over. So they did a lot of work on that one. It was really rough right now. It looks fabulous. So. 237 00:20:23,860 --> 00:20:23,940 I don't know. 238 00:20:24,740 --> 00:20:30,070 And this one, there were a lot of people, but there's going to be a lot of really deep in this 239 00:20:30,070 --> 00:20:31,890 particular way where it's really long. 240 00:20:32,090 --> 00:20:33,150 See, and you can't tell. 241 00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:34,510 Yeah, they did it on the back of the house. 242 00:20:35,410 --> 00:20:36,870 And it really did. 243 00:20:37,210 --> 00:20:41,790 In fact, when he came, I saw him right after the revelation, and I come to him anymore, the house 244 00:20:41,790 --> 00:20:43,390 looked like it's always been that way. 245 00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:49,470 I mean, the first picture that you have was, it was there, it had a presence, but it was kind 246 00:20:49,470 --> 00:20:50,290 of very subtle. 247 00:20:51,370 --> 00:20:58,070 And Christus awakened it, given it a new life, but he did not take anything away from the 248 00:20:58,070 --> 00:21:04,170 character and the basics of the house, the way it had been for years, really. 249 00:21:05,550 --> 00:21:09,770 Oh, because everything he did take away with, no, the garage, there was a three car garage 250 00:21:09,770 --> 00:21:10,450 over there. 251 00:21:11,170 --> 00:21:12,290 I don't think he's feeling it. 252 00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:17,370 They made it into a pool house, the car court that was back there, and they added to their 253 00:21:17,370 --> 00:21:18,310 Well, thank you. 254 00:21:18,330 --> 00:21:19,850 I was exactly the way it was. 255 00:21:19,950 --> 00:21:20,050 Yes. 256 00:21:20,410 --> 00:21:21,050 That's great. 257 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,940 We have an attack rate. 258 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:25,620 Did you go? 259 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:26,620 Did you go? 260 00:21:27,140 --> 00:21:27,280 Did you go? 261 00:21:27,860 --> 00:21:28,160 Okay. 262 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,240 Did you turn yours in late? 263 00:21:29,460 --> 00:21:29,780 No. 264 00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:30,680 I forgot. 265 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,500 I had a senior moment. 266 00:21:34,300 --> 00:21:39,640 But my nominations wouldn't have been the Bush Chapel, A.B. 267 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,960 Zion Church, over on the order street. 268 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:54,150 just this past week they had the 165th anniversary. The Church is basically has 269 00:21:54,150 --> 00:22:02,370 a change very much. It's been renovated in some ways and you know everything 270 00:22:02,370 --> 00:22:09,250 but it's 165 years. In fact this was a church that I grew up in and it's been 271 00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:15,150 And then I had spent a member, this is where my family has been a member for over 70 years. 272 00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:17,870 So that's my one. 273 00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:21,790 And from what I recall, that's locally quarried granite. 274 00:22:22,330 --> 00:22:22,510 Yes. 275 00:22:24,910 --> 00:22:25,750 And the new house. 276 00:22:27,030 --> 00:22:27,510 Yes. 277 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:32,310 The new, they just made a new addition, but it didn't take, they were very, very careful. 278 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:36,410 We were very careful about the New Fellowship Hall 279 00:22:36,410 --> 00:22:39,170 that they just built to the side, 280 00:22:39,550 --> 00:22:42,410 but it did not take away anything from the church. 281 00:22:42,790 --> 00:22:44,710 They tried to maintain everything, 282 00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:47,690 even the stone that they put on the New Fellowship Hall, 283 00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:48,910 they tried to get it. 284 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:50,950 It's not exact, it's not the same thing, 285 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:56,330 but it's not the stone enhances 286 00:22:56,330 --> 00:23:01,690 and kind of gives you a feeling of the old church itself. 287 00:23:02,410 --> 00:23:12,870 So, and but that's my personal okay, my second one is my old school from it from I went 288 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:18,930 from first grade until the 11th, this is the old Glenwood school that is now the Wimbledon 289 00:23:18,930 --> 00:23:19,410 Center. 290 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:24,730 Now this school I don't remember the year so when if we do something like that, I will get 291 00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:29,150 the history from the very beginning and everything and have all that information for you but 292 00:23:29,150 --> 00:23:36,950 these are my two. And this school, if well over 50 years old, how was the school there? 293 00:23:37,650 --> 00:23:40,960 You're older than you. 294 00:23:43,390 --> 00:23:47,170 That was just too located from that same site before that one. 295 00:23:48,130 --> 00:23:54,750 This one was the second school, the original school was over on James Alwood Drive now. 296 00:23:55,230 --> 00:24:01,090 The building has been torn down, but it was a very first school for the African-Americans, 297 00:24:01,090 --> 00:24:03,690 and citizens of the county, that they went there 298 00:24:03,690 --> 00:24:05,470 because at that particular time, 299 00:24:06,510 --> 00:24:09,770 most of the schools were in with the churches. 300 00:24:10,290 --> 00:24:13,970 Now, right to the side, off to Bush Apple, 301 00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:15,770 they used to be a building, 302 00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:19,350 off to the left side, if you're facing this, 303 00:24:19,690 --> 00:24:21,090 with the face guns on the right side, 304 00:24:21,270 --> 00:24:23,090 if you're facing the churches on the right side, 305 00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:25,410 they used to be a school building there. 306 00:24:25,930 --> 00:24:27,810 And that's where my mom and my dad went to school. 307 00:24:27,810 --> 00:24:32,510 Most of the churches here in Staten and Bethlehem, 308 00:24:34,050 --> 00:24:36,350 yeah, Staten, Bethlehem, 309 00:24:38,850 --> 00:24:41,390 yeah, because this old school house 310 00:24:41,390 --> 00:24:42,630 in Bethlehem is still there. 311 00:24:43,390 --> 00:24:47,730 The old school house in Bethlehem church was there for a while 312 00:24:47,730 --> 00:24:52,550 and I can't remember if there was a school at the in Staten. 313 00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:56,230 But most of them had schools right around in the area. 314 00:24:57,130 --> 00:24:58,010 And so that's where they went. 315 00:24:58,010 --> 00:24:59,970 to take over the original first school. 316 00:25:00,370 --> 00:25:14,490 That existed in Glenwood was a two-story building of brick, and I should have brought a picture of it, but I did. I did not survive. But anyway, those are my two. 317 00:25:19,170 --> 00:25:31,430 I appreciate everybody sending their nominations. Good job. It's for liking the good cross-section of the town. So, I guess we need to take a vote. Do you have? 318 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:32,590 They have to make a suggestion. 319 00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:33,810 Sure. 320 00:25:35,050 --> 00:25:48,410 If we look at the first page of on this, we've got a house that it seems like three people out of the committee 321 00:25:48,410 --> 00:25:53,130 have really brought that to attention. 322 00:25:53,670 --> 00:25:56,210 I think that should be our first house. 323 00:25:57,460 --> 00:26:02,960 and my saying is because it got brought up three times and I mean that it caught 324 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:09,100 someone's attention and I think that should be our first house which is 325 00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:17,560 need to get the history of it. Okay? I agree. I agree with that. 326 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:21,980 31 327 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:29,740 lesser students, 31 less students. Okay. And I'm a member of the Bear 328 00:26:29,740 --> 00:26:35,100 Preservation Society and I think that home was on our two or one year and we may have some 329 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,780 Historical information from a booklet. I'll see if I can find that and I'll 330 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,440 It has the cutest little basement apartment 331 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:53,260 Yeah, I know it was on the pharmacist, right? They said they found some old bottles and stuff down the basement 332 00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:06,400 or something I don't know from, I remember that they did throw anything, but I'll try 333 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,360 to send that. I'll try to send it to you. And I know the homeowner so I can tell him 334 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:15,300 they've been nominated if you want me to make sure it's okay with them or to be featured 335 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:16,300 if you want to. 336 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,480 I'll get back to you offline. Okay. Okay. 337 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:27,200 I have another suggestion. Okay. 338 00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:41,160 This first collection of homes that we've got, or buildings that we have seen today, I think is a very good start to what we want to do. 339 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:53,180 And I think this is where we should go with these for whatever time frame that we have set, and each one of those, I think that would be a good thing. 340 00:27:54,780 --> 00:27:58,640 We were doing what, when we do it every two months, every quarter, can you move on me? 341 00:27:59,620 --> 00:28:00,780 At least every quarter. 342 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:01,540 Okay. 343 00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:06,190 I think we got a very good start on that. 344 00:28:06,690 --> 00:28:13,650 And the most important thing with each one of these is getting the history of the house. 345 00:28:14,390 --> 00:28:22,190 That is going to, that's the most important thing now is acknowledging the history of the house as much as we can. 346 00:28:22,790 --> 00:28:27,430 Given that we have quite a selection here, you'd suggested we've got enough for every month. 347 00:28:27,630 --> 00:28:32,150 Do we want instead of getting two ambitious, do we want to do like every other month? 348 00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:38,810 I was thinking every other month, because I think once a quarter is not enough to like build excitement. 349 00:28:39,210 --> 00:28:39,630 I agree. 350 00:28:40,210 --> 00:28:47,170 So in two months, we'll look at the selection together and take another one and how I'd another one. 351 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:55,450 If we can, as we look and bring something to the table, at least have a general history, 352 00:28:55,970 --> 00:28:56,290 I 353 00:29:01,510 --> 00:29:02,970 think that would be a good thing too. 354 00:29:04,590 --> 00:29:10,810 It doesn't have to be a chronological thing, but we need to have a general history of house. 355 00:29:11,770 --> 00:29:19,150 Some of that may be a little bit more challenging, but for some folks, if it's something we don't know a lot about, 356 00:29:19,150 --> 00:29:21,190 But we can try. 357 00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:23,930 I can pull out. 358 00:29:24,110 --> 00:29:30,570 I have a copy of the own National Register of Historical Society files for the National 359 00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:31,790 Register when they're doing the research. 360 00:29:32,250 --> 00:29:33,310 So that might help on. 361 00:29:33,850 --> 00:29:36,190 I don't know if it's going to align with any of these properties. 362 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:37,250 The future properties. 363 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,240 The easy information to get. 364 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:49,080 We can always ask our colleagues Douglas and Lynn to know everybody's property and where 365 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:49,560 it's at. 366 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:51,580 They're not even paying you. 367 00:29:51,580 --> 00:29:53,880 Y'all just got nominated while you were talking. 368 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:54,260 What? 369 00:29:54,980 --> 00:29:55,400 Good boy. 370 00:29:56,740 --> 00:29:59,260 You mentioned bringing the history enough. 371 00:29:59,660 --> 00:29:59,960 I have his name. 372 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,400 I think in the comment that if we don't know it, because, because you're looking at it as like, and I said, we can always ask our esteemed colleagues not to listen when they seem to know we're all about historical properties are owned. You're the first on the call list. Okay, so if you need a formal vote for that, or just, it sounds like we've just kind of generally agreed. Okay. Well, 31 West State and Street, it is. Good job, everybody. 373 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:35,800 Thank you for participating, and again, in two months we will pick another from the packet. 374 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:43,440 I want to make sure I have clips of what we are going to kind of acknowledge some of the things that are in the city. 375 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,820 Are we just going to stick to this floor? 376 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:55,660 I think well, we've got the packet for our next couple of selections, but I think out, well, it's just the city. 377 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,640 Okay, because we're not sticking to the historic district is what we can't do the 378 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,040 consensus. 379 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,460 The reason I ask is because then I want to make sure that I get, I'll be working on 380 00:31:07,460 --> 00:31:09,820 getting the history of my two nominations. 381 00:31:10,380 --> 00:31:10,520 Okay. 382 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,460 And I'm going to get an in-depth history up. 383 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,820 So yeah, they're in the city again. 384 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,120 Yeah. 385 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,220 They're in the city. 386 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:16,680 Okay. 387 00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:17,420 Very good. 388 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:18,600 Okay. 389 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,600 With that, I'll take a motion for adjournment for this meeting. 390 00:31:22,260 --> 00:31:23,180 I motion to adjourn. 391 00:31:23,380 --> 00:31:24,260 We have a motion. 392 00:31:24,260 --> 00:31:26,320 We have a second, all in favor? 393 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:29,500 Okay, thank you very much everybody. 394 00:31:29,860 --> 00:31:31,160 Have a good rest of here.