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Welcome to the July 6, 2026 council meeting, and this evening all of our councillors are here, so that we'll stand for our roll call. Our next two items are on our agenda, are the prayer and reflection and the Pledge of Allegiance, and that will be allowed by Deputy Mayor Clees. I'd like to offer a reflection. As we gather just after celebrating our Independence Day, we are reminded that the strength of our nation has always begun in our communities. The freedoms we enjoy are

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are sustained not only by those who came before us, but also by the everyday work of citizens,

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willing to serve, participate, engage, and care for one another.

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Local government is where those ideals are lived out.

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Here, we may not always agree, but we share a common responsibility to listen respectfully,

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consider thoughtfully, and make decisions that serve the long-term well-being of our community.

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This evening, maybe we approach our work with humility, integrity, and

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and a genuine commitment to the people who have entrusted us with this responsibility.

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May we remember that every decision we make contributes in some way to the community we

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leave for future generations.

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Thank you and let's stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I

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pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for

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which stands one nation under God, indivisible for liberty and justice for all.

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This

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evening we have a proclamation proclaiming July 10, 2026 as Oliver Ellsworth legacy day.

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Whereas the town of Windsor proudly joins the nation in commemorating America's 250th anniversary

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and recognizing the people, places, and events that shape the founding of the United States.

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And whereas Oliver Ellsworth, born in Windsor on April 29, 1745, rose from our community

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to become one of the most influential figures in the creation of the American Republic.

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And whereas Ellsworth served Connecticut and the nation as a member of the Continental

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Congress, a delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787, a United States Senator,

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principal author of the Judiciary Act of 1789 and third chief justice of the United

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States. And whereas, Ellsworth's leadership helped shape the structure of our federal

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government, the United States Senate, and the federal court system, leaving a lasting

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imprint on American constitutional democracy. And whereas the Oliver Ellsworth homestead

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located at 778 Palisato Avenue in Windsor, and preserved by the Connecticut daughters

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of the American Revolution remains a treasured historical landmark and a living connection

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to Windsor's, excuse me, a living connection to Windsor's role in the founding era.

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And whereas Windsor 250, the Elzeroth homestead, the daughters of the American Revolution,

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and the Windsor Historical Society,

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continue to educate residents and visitors

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about the people and ideals that formed our nation.

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And whereas on July 10th, 2026,

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the program, The Story of Oliver Ellsworth,

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presented by Biographer Michael Toth,

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at the Oliver Ellsworth Homestead,

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Maddie's Hall will offer the public an opportunity

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to reflect on Ellsworth's life, public service,

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and enduring national legacy.

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Now therefore, be it proclaimed by the town council

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and the mayor of the town of Windsor that July 10th, 2026

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be proclaimed Oliver Ellsworth legacy day

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in the town of Windsor, Connecticut,

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and that all residents are encouraged to learn

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more about Windsor's own constitutional framework

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and to take pride in the important role

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our community played in the founding and development

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of the United States of America.

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Signed, Nishat Blackberg, Mayor of Windsor.

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Members are July 6, 2026. And at this time, I would invite Betsy Ridgeway and Janet Ellsworth and any other members of the daughters of the American Revolution to please step forward so we can present this proclamation to you.

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Thank

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you very much.

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This is an honor.

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Thank you.

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Would you like to say a few?

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Thank you.

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Oh, excuse me, Smith.

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Very nice.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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I'd like to thank the town of Windsor and the Windsor Historic Society, particularly Patrick

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Rick McMahon, who's done a lot of effort to organize our event on July 10th with the author,

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Michael Tulsa, Constitutional Scholar.

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So we're very excited and we want to thank everyone for their support.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Item number five in our agenda this evening is public communications and petitions.

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anyone from the public would like to address the council, you will be given three minutes

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to speak.

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Please state your name and address, and the council welcomes and values public comments.

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We ask that all speakers conduct themselves with civility and respect.

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Please do not refer to other speakers by name or use the regulatory and flammatory or disrespectful

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language when expressing your views.

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Please note that this portion of the meeting is for the council to listen to public input.

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The council does not respond to questions or engage in discussion during public comment.

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Your comments will be received and considered as part of the public record.

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Thank you for your participation and for helping to maintain a respectful and productive meeting environment.

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And this time I will turn it over to moderator Scott Coby, our assistant town manager.

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Thank you Madam Mayor. If there is anyone from the public who is virtual this evening would like to address the council

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You may do so by raising your hand on your computer by selecting the participants icon on the zoom menu bar

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And then clicking raise hand or by dialing star nine on your phone. You'll be given three minutes to speak

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Please state your name and address when you are called on you'd be prompted that you are now unmuted

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For those dialing in by phone once prompted you will then press star six to a mute and for a clear communication

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We ask that you do not place the call and speak or phone and at this time Madam Mayor would do have several virtual attendees with

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Thank you, Mr. Colby.

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And again, please state your name and address.

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You will be given three minutes to speak.

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At the sound of the chime, we do ask that you conclude your comments.

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At the 60 second mark, a yellow card will be raised.

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And at the 30 second mark, a red card will be raised.

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Thank you.

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To our first caller, you were now unmuted.

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My name is James Chapat-Wingert, and I live at 20 Tiffany Drive.

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I am asking the town council to remove the flock LPR cameras

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from Windsor streets, even if these cameras and this type of surveillance is legal, that

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doesn't make it right.

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Our country's founders knew that protecting our citizens from this type of government

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overreach would serve two ends to protect the citizens themselves and protect the agents

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of the state from surveillance is corrupting influence.

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If we have a good police department here in Windsor, then they would not want to intrude

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on their fellow citizens' freedoms, and we would not want them exposed to the corrupting

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effects of having access to the state. There have been many stories in the media about

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police officers getting arrested and disciplined in other states for misusing,

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lock and other ALPR cameras and other mass surveillance.

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If the police require location information in order to find criminals, then they should have no problem getting a warrant, just as they would for other methods of tracing a person's location. I do not believe that we can extend a presumption of good faith to flock as a company with regard to privacy or technical security. It has been demonstrated to my satisfaction as an IT security professional, that the cameras themselves and the data that they harvest are all extremely vulnerable to compromise

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and misuse. If we are going to require an independent security audit of the

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camera's databases and software associated with luck as put forth in the

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incident policy, then we should require that that audit be completed by an

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independent third party before any cameras are turned back on. We should also be

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putting aside money from the budget in order to cover the cost of inevitable

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lawsuits against the town of Windsor. As we the taxpayers will be responsible for

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depending a compromise product for defending a compromise product that can

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ducts an unconstitutional function. Thank you so much. Have a good day. Thank you.

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our next caller, you are now muted. Hi, my name is Dan Piper. I'm a live at

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96 Cape and Street and I'd like to also speak for taking down the ALPR

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flock cameras. My understanding is these cameras originally went up when a

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police lieutenant signed a contract with the FLOG company, this major multi-billion-dollar

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company, and that there was no public hearing or discussion about putting them up in the

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first place. I've come to a few of these meetings and I think it's abundantly clear that the

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vast majority of people in Windsor want these cameras taken down, for reasons that people

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around the country want them taken down, and people around Connecticut want them taken

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down. In addition to everything that was just said, we've also seen that these cameras

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are abused by law enforcement in other states and the federal government. We've seen through

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a FOIA and through other evidence that they've been used to target immigrants, women seeking

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reproductive care, people seeking gender reframing care, people going to peaceful protests like the

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to stock women. Now, I understand that the state has passed on legislation that's attempting

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to do something about all of this, but from what we know about the clock in the federal

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government, they have no problem breaking state laws. They have no, and they break state

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laws openly, when, for instance, ice comes in wearing masks, which is against kinetic

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it law to use the data that comes from these cameras illegally is something that can be

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done very privately.

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I mean, a personal private hacker can hack these cameras very quickly as it has been

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demonstrated a number of times.

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So it's quite to me, it's a pretty weak excuse to say that the state law is going to protect

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people from authoritarian actions that intimidate armed people and make people less safe.

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So for these and many other reasons, I think they should be taken down.

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I've been joining in the petitioning to pass an ordinance to get the cameras taken down

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and to get a policy in that would require the town council to review any other similar technology

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and not just leave it up to one individual whether this stuff goes up.

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And I'd be very encouraged that many new people in Windsor who would also like these very

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much like these cameras taken down.

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So I would appreciate if the town council would take this all into consideration.

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Thank you.

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Next call you are now muted.

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Hi.

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This is Coralie Jones, 1171 Mathianic Avenue.

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The main function of our town government is to see to the health and safety of the public.

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Our police department wanted these readers.

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They were another tool for them to help prevent and solve criminal activity.

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They were very disappointed that the cameras were shut down.

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To them it must have indicated that they did not deserve your support.

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We all know that recently these tools helped solve some very serious crimes.

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Objections to these cameras is privacy.

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These cameras are far less intrusive than the everyday tracking

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and profiling that happens to us when we use our phones, watch TV.

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We use our credit cards, shopping stores, walking parking lots, etc. They know our age, likes, and dislikes. I question why are some people still against these cameras? I stated that a far less intrusive, they are far less intrusive than the tracking we experience every day. The objection is not privacy as much as tracking cars license plates, which might belong to people who could then be identified as

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noncompliant in the legal status. There's no way that these cameras on our street reaches

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an individual's privacy in any measure as compared to what every day life interaction

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does. Therefore, I find the concern of the individual privacy not a value reason not to implement

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these cameras. Our support, our police department deserves our support and provide them

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with this tool. Thank you.

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To our next caller you are now unmuted.

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Good evening. This is Leanne Tyson, 141,

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Giddings Avenue. And I just had a couple of points

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to address this evening and I'm just going to read them.

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I agree with the actions being taken with regards to the

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reactivation of flock cameras due to the current state

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of our union and its fascist-leaning government.

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If we could be 100% sure that abuses would not take place, that would not be a concern

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for me.

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So I really believe that the cameras need to stay off.

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The second concern that I have is I'm deeply concerned with the current proliferation of

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of wealthy companies attempting to sneak in data centers

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as we've heard occurring in different locales,

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which are also being touted as great tax revenue.

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I would like to hear a written statement from the town council,

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perhaps even at the next meeting,

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stating the intentions of our town council

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with regards to any potential data sensors being developed here so that we know way in advance

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what the position is of the town and what we as citizens need to do in response. Thank you.

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So thank you.

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To our next call, you were now muted.

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Yes, good evening.

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Jeremy.

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I had like 1890, look when I have a new.

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I just wanted to call to show my support for the flock,

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the cameras, and I'm turning them back on.

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I feel that this is a really good tool for law enforcement to use.

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and they have used it to solve crimes in the past.

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So I feel it's a great piece of information.

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A piece of information, I feel that they should be allowed to use this tool.

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And really, I just feel that this is all about immigration enforcement, and that's why

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folks don't want them to turn back on, but the federal government does have a right

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to enforce their own policies, even here in Connecticut, and they should be allowed to

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to do so and we should be supporting our law enforcement and supporting American values.

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Thank you so much and I hope everyone had a great fourth of July.

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Thank you.

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This time Madam Mayor we have no virtual attendees with our hand raised.

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Thank you Mr. Colby.

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So we'll move to the town hall chamber again, if you'd like to address the council.

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We do ask that you step forward to the table, state your name and address.

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You will have three minutes to speak at the sound of the chime.

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We do ask that you conclude your comments, Deputy Mayor.

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Again, if you see a mail card, you have six-

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You have 30 seconds left. And if you see the red card, you have 30 seconds left.

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And you can just step forward. Okay, thank you.

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Good

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evening mayor and councilmembers.

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My name is Momina Deem and I live at 14 Lafayette Drive.

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I urge you to vote no on reactivating Windsor's Flock Safety ALPR system.

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I recently graduated from UConn's Connecticut, I mean UConn's College of Engineering in December with a bachelor's degree in computer science and engineering with a concentration in artificial intelligence.

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Because of my background, I think I have a good understanding of how AI-powered surveillance systems operate in the long-term implications they can have.

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I appreciate the work that has gone into revising this proposal.

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I understand that new state legislation has been passed and that the contract now includes additional safeguards.

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But my concern is not just about the policy before you tonight.

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It is about the surveillance infrastructure you are being asked to restore.

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The policy says these cameras cannot be used for certain purposes, such as immigration enforcement or abortion related investigations.

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That is a positive step, but policies are not permanent.

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Future councils can amend them.

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State law can change.

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The cameras themselves, however, remain.

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Tonight's vote is not just about today's rules.

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It is about building a surveillance system that future officials may expand in ways we cannot predict.

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In Texas, a law enforcement official reportedly used flux nationwide network and connection with a woman who has obtained an abortion.

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Later records challenged the original explanation that the search was solely for a missing person check.

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My point is not that Windsor would do the same.

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My point is that safeguards on paper are only as strong as the oversight, transparency, and discretion behind them.

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Once exceptions exist or justifications can be broadly interpreted, public trust becomes much harder to obtain.

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I am also concerned about sharing Windsor's data with agencies and other states.

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This sweatshirt information about where Windsor residents drive be available to agencies in New York,

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Rhode Island, Massachusetts, or anywhere else.

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Their laws may change too, their priorities may be different, and they are not accountable to Windsor residents.

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If Windsor is conducting a investigation, Windsor should remain responsible for it.

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We should not create a system where our residents' location data can be pulled into investigations beyond our control.

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So I'm also concerned about where this technology is headed.

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Earlier this year, Amazon's ring canceled a plan integration with Flock after a significant

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public backlash over the idea of combining residential camera footage, artificial intelligence,

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and police accessible license play data.

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That integration never happened, but the fact that that was seriously pursued tells us something about the-

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Thank you.

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Hello, my name is Horace Nadeem, and I live at 14 Lockheed Drive, Windsor, Connecticut.

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And I also urge you all to vote no on reactivating Windsor's Flock Safety ALPR system.

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And to also remove them entirely for the reasons previously stated.

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And that's all I have to say, thank you guys.

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Thank you.

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I didn't plan on coming up here and speaking, but I figured I might as well have a few things of it.

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My name is Mark Cormier, I live at 107 Midiannav, I've lived here for about 35 years with my wife of 46 years.

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The issue I see is that, you know, we are getting hit up by, you know, we just got a yes vote, sorry, it means our property tax are rising, my wife and I are on Social Security only.

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We are getting hit by every source all the time, raising taxes, raising electricity.

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And I realize that this is going to bring in more money for the town, but I figure our police department can do the same thing, can do this without having facial recognition and passing information on to possibly immigration, and which has been happening.

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Okay, there's a bunch of...

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If you go to Facebook, there's just tons of articles on this, on the flock cameras, and what is wrong with them, this AI system. The well-documented have been plagued by security and vulnerabilities, rampant misuse, AI malfunctions which land innocent people in trouble with the law. I mean, mine myself had a problem with New York. I never go to New York, I live in Windsor, you know, and I don't go to New York.

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I got a thing in the mail saying that I owed fine because they caught my car going through

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a toll booth in New York.

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And it took me over a month to rectify this.

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They basically said it was the same white vehicle, but it wasn't, it was a different color,

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it was a different model, and it was the same license plate.

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But what the AI misread was the CT and it was actually finally after a month I was able

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to get a human to look at the actual photo and it was actually CO.

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So until a human saw this and was able to do that I finally got rectified.

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But I mean there are a lot of angry I have I'm a musician I'm a drummer and I play out

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all over the state, I have over 2,000 friends on Facebook.

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And people are getting nailed by these cameras and other towns, and they're angry, all right?

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Putting these back on, the town residents are going to be angry at the people that have turned it back on.

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So my suggestion is not to turn it back on.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, Hillary Carpenter, 45 Bradford Drive.

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I'll be very brief.

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I wanted to just point out that opposition to flock cameras is not about their usefulness or lack of usefulness to law enforcement.

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It's about the use of our data by a private corporation and

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other nefarious third parties and what they are doing with information about us.

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An earlier caller pointed out that we give our information out all the time.

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And that's true. We do, with our consent. I've had the opportunity to speak with folks over the last few days and have noticed some themes.

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They don't know these cameras exist. If they do know, they assume they are red light traffic signal or speed cameras which are broadly supported.

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They are shocked when I tell them that all of these cameras, that all the things that these cameras do because they do not consent to that.

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I do not consent to that.

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Take the cameras down and put the citizens first.

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My name is Elise Coleman.

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I don't live in Windsor, so I'll make this quick.

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I am from the Reach Fund of Connecticut,

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which is the only abortion fund in the state of Connecticut.

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And the Board of Directors of the Fund has been horrified

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to learn that these cameras were used to track

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the movements of a patient who came to Connecticut

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for a treatment that was banned in their state.

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These cameras are being abused by law enforcement officers to monitor their partners and

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exes and other romantic interests.

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And they're used to track people exercising their first amendment rights to express their opinions about this government.

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We already know the Trump administration has directed its Justice Department, FBI, and

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other agencies to target people with certain beliefs, people critical of fascism, of Christianity,

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people who are queer, people of color, and more.

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People like us.

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We are living under a fascist government.

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The fascism is already here.

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This is not a government that we want to have this much access to our every move.

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They just put several protesters in federal prison for speaking out against fascism.

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And I don't think you should let them do that to innocent people in Windsor.

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I'm not against public safety because I've driven all around the state and some of you all drive crazy, but there are ways to maintain public safety without putting us in danger. I don't feel like this.

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Technology keeps us safe, I feel like it puts us in danger.

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And fascism is a problem in America that goes beyond the town of Windsor, but the least we can do is not grease the wheels of authoritarianism for them. Thank you so much.

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Please

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state your name and address.

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My name is Elise Coleman.

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I live at 2459 Whitney Avenue in Hamden.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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Good evening.

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Good evening.

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Did I get six minutes?

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I think I'll let you know.

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My name is Corey Farron.

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I am at 327 Maryman.

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And I'm also here with George Farney, 75 Barriola's Hill.

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And we are here on behalf of Windsor Little League.

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just want to raise a little more of awareness to let everybody know that

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Windsor Little League is here our league is growing and thriving parks are

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looking better and the kids are more than happy than they've been in many years

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to be down and playing and we just like to hopefully get some more attention from

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the town we notice that the town budget got cut quite a bit for parks and

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and rarex buildings and grounds and stuff and we depend a lot on that, the fields are old and we do our best to keep them up, but we just want to let the town and the board know that we are looking for future attention and encourage everybody to come out, watch the kids play, all age groups.

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Yeah, as Cory mentioned, last time we were here was before our spring season and we just wrapped up our

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2026 spring season. We had well over 300 registered ball players both in baseball and softball

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all down at Welch Park between Welch and Fitch and O.E. And

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Great turnout and I think as we shared the last time we're here that the league has dwindled in numbers and our vision is to grow

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the league back to what it used to be years ago, pre-COVID.

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This town used to have to utilize multiple fields around the town, not just Welch and Fitch.

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So we appreciate Madam Mayor came out and threw our first ball for our opening day.

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So we really do, we really do, that was very well received.

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A lot of comments and encouragement from that.

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But a lot of comments about the town does really have some interest in our league.

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And we know that we have your backs, we want to encourage you to continue to have ours.

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We are a nonprofit organization.

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We do the best we can from the fundraising that we do on our own.

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But we do rely on the town to supplement that and help us through some of the more heavier

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lifts that we need down there and get those fields revitalized, grow the team, grow the league

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back to what it once used to be, and mainly for our youth, we do it for the kids.

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And we encourage we are holding a state championship this year for

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literally international 12U for the week of 21 July through the 26th.

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Our channel is asked to host that, so we're getting a lot of attention.

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So that's really good for the community.

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Thank you so very much.

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Thank you, and I just want to give a shout out to another member of the team.

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If I don't know, you want to just wave your hand back there, my friend.

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All right, thank you, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good evening.

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My name is Maggie Essex, 95 Lighthouse Hill Road.

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And I am also here representing Windsor Little League.

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I am the chief information officer and fundraising director for

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the Windsor Little League as well as a tax paying citizen of Windsor.

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Historically, Windsor has been quite supportive of Little League, and I am here to ask the town to continue actively supporting recreational youth sports in town.

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With two daughters who play Windsor Little League softball and serving as coach for one of their teams, and my role on the board of directors, I have first hand experience in the difficulty that Little League has had in finding enough safe and usable fields.

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for all of our teams to have adequate practice and game space as our registration numbers continue to increase.

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So as you work through plans for the future with open space, recreation facilities, capital improvement, etc.

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I ask that you please be cognizant of the positive recreational youth activities that need these recreational fields and spaces in town.

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I'm sorry.

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Windsor Little League makes baseball and softball accessible to all Windsor youth and affordable through scholarships granted by the board for those that might need it. This is a stark difference from many travel programs that are out there, and it also keeps our kids playing in town. The first statement of our organization's constitution is the objective of Windsor Little League shall be to implant firmly in the children of the community.

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the ideals of good sportsmanship, honesty, loyalty, courage, and respect for authority,

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so that they may be well-adjusted, stronger, and happier children, and will grow to be good, decent, healthy, and trustworthy citizens.

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I'd like to highlight that this statement does not mention softball, baseball, or athletic ability whatsoever.

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The focus is character and the development of kind humans, most of whom move through the Windsor

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public school system, and to become contributing members of Windsor Society.

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So I implore you to continue your support of Windsor Little League and recreational youth sports,

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as they serve a purpose much greater than just athletics.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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Good evening.

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My name is Bradley Smolkin.

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I live at 258 Kenzwick Lane here in Windsor.

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While these flat cameras aren't me.

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may be useful for crime prevention investigations and for crime prevention.

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There is well-founded cause for alarm over the daily trampling upon the rule of law by

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the present authoritarian government.

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Trump and his administration's disregard for the rule of law has included among other instances.

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The illegal seizure of ballots in Atlanta by the FBI.

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ICE's detention and deportation of immigrants with pending asylum applications.

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ICE's arrest of applicants in court for asylum at their required check-in appointments.

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What's to stop Trump and his army of ICE and Border Patrol agents from seizing control

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a flock safety's entire operation and its data and using the data to identify, locate,

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arrest, and detain protesters and anyone Trump labels as an enemy of the state.

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As someone who has attended a couple of no-kings events, I feel a little bit vulnerable about

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that.

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Bear in mind that the so-called conservative majority on the Supreme Court has granted

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virtually unlimited immunity to Trump for criminal actions that he takes in his capacity

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as president.

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Trump's DOJ's predictable challenges to the provisions of the Public Act 2614, the act

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turning democracy and government accountability that provide for jurisdiction in Connecticut

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and provide for rights of action for citizens in federal court will inevitably be appealed

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to the Supreme Court whose majority consistently bends the knee to Trump.

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I respectfully urge the Council to respect the will of the people of Windsor and reject

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Practice proposal to reactivate the ALPR cameras and renew the contract as revised.

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Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak with you about this.

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Thank you.

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Good

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evening, Council.

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My name is Sullivan Cruz, 49 London Road.

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I'm speaking to taking down the ALPR cameras.

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I've been frightened by the actions of our government, the actions of ICE and

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the attack on reproductive rights and on freedom of speech, sorry.

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This technology has already been mishandled since we have acquired it.

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And you guys have the power to change it in this town.

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So please don't continue this attack to happen on our rights.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you, thank you.

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Hello, Lindsey Graham, 265 Bloomfield Avenue. The Supreme Court has said that people have a reasonable

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expectation of privacy in the whole of their public movements. And when the government collects

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information without suspicion, over weeks in a way that can reveal people's otherwise private

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habits and routines, that violates the fourth amendment. Currently, as the system stands, there are

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not enough safeguards in place to prevent the misuse of these cameras by police, let

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alone a hacker or some other conglomerate.

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Not to mention, I did not consent to this private third-party surveillance company to store

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and obtain my data.

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Did you know that 12 police officers have been arrested for misuse of this database?

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All 12 use that technology to track previous romantic partners and their new lovers.

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There have been several false arrests made because these systems misread plate numbers

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on a plate.

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In Toledo, a man had a seven mistake in 4.2 and it resulted in an attack from a canine

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officer that ripped his arm apart and his hair out and they sued for $53,000.

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This seven in two mistake is a reoccurring pattern the system keeps getting wrong.

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police concurrently access that system for really whatever reason they want and

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the safeguards for it are allegedly pretty minimal and they require no

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warrant to do that. These cameras bring me back to 1984 and not the fabulous

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year that I was born but the book that our government thinks is a manual on how to

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run a country. Thank you.

449
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:05,900
Good afternoon men and women of the town council. My name is

450
00:47:06,460 --> 00:47:14,880
I was born and raised here in Windsor at 355 Hayden Station Road and I as well as many of the town's folk who have made time to talk to you tonight are concerned.

451
00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:23,320
You've heard from many people with many perspectives but the through line here tonight is our concern of rights of privacy of cameras and corporations.

452
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:34,660
The responsibility you inherited from our founders as democratically elected officials is to hear these concerns of your constituents and act in their best interest in accordance with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

453
00:47:35,180 --> 00:47:39,420
The authors, the authors of these principal documents, knew the oppression that they were

454
00:47:39,420 --> 00:47:44,640
bolted against when in time take new names in shape, new names in shapes, and so sanctified

455
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,500
the rights of the individual and left it to you to protect them from whatever forces

456
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:49,560
would seek to infringe them.

457
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:54,180
Of most common concern here tonight is the infringement of our personal privacy rights as

458
00:47:54,180 --> 00:47:55,200
outlined in the Fourth Amendment.

459
00:47:56,020 --> 00:48:01,100
One's right to deny unwarranted search in seizure is a keystone pillar in defending all of our

460
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:01,400
freedom.

461
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,140
It protects us from members of the state, recording personal phone calls with family members,

462
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,640
or searching a car for anti-war posters, or searching a basement for a man-to-peated slaves,

463
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,780
or searching a barn for colonial uniforms and weapons.

464
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,400
Because the tools for oppression change hands throughout time, and the same state you seek

465
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,240
to build can turn around and break down your door for distance if not for this right.

466
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:28,560
I ask you to invest my tax money in infrastructure that manages crime or aids investigations while

467
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,540
honoring our rights and not infrastructure that strips them.

468
00:48:32,020 --> 00:48:36,020
There may not be an easy solution, but protecting freedom has never been easy.

469
00:48:36,460 --> 00:48:37,560
Please make the right choice.

470
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:38,440
Thank you.

471
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,420
My name is Joel Herman.

472
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:56,180
I live at 107 Ruedaaf.

473
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,460
62-year Windsor resident.

474
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,940
TDS is on full display here tonight.

475
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,460
The paranoia about these cameras is ridiculous.

476
00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:08,140
If you have nothing to hide, there's nothing to see.

477
00:49:08,740 --> 00:49:10,700
If you're upset about the flock cameras,

478
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:20,440
It should be the over 200,000 we've sent already spent in a subscription for this, whether we keep it going or not.

479
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:27,100
Nobody asked you about all the cameras that they put up in town that they can watch from the police department.

480
00:49:27,380 --> 00:49:30,600
It was just paid for it happens. It's the 21st century.

481
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,620
You're going to have to get used to it.

482
00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:41,520
I challenge anybody to name one person who's been harmed from the town of Windsor with these slot cameras

483
00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:44,960
Thank you. Thank you. Hello

484
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,680
can for debt 30 rimmington road

485
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,980
A lot of cameras at these meetings in the past. A couple of things that I wanted echo this evening, and then one point that I wanted to dig into just a little bit more because I haven't heard it brought up. I want to echo the concept of consent that it is true that we do wave a lot of our privacy, but we often wave that privacy to private companies that we often do so knowingly. And that when we don't, when we give away

486
00:50:29,980 --> 00:50:32,280
the way privacy that we don't know we have given away.

487
00:50:34,140 --> 00:50:37,240
The backlash towards the company is usually pretty swift.

488
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,880
Where if somebody says, oh, by the way,

489
00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:43,620
we've been sharing your data with company X and company Y.

490
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,340
And I say, well, the end user license agreement

491
00:50:46,340 --> 00:50:48,640
didn't say that you could share that data with company X

492
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,400
and company Y.

493
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,140
And now I feel a bit betrayed.

494
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,020
That kind of feels like where flock and similar companies go.

495
00:50:56,180 --> 00:50:59,460
I know that the ring camera, the potential for a deal

496
00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:06,160
with ring cameras is out there, and I know the potential for like plugging into AI software

497
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,040
for facial recognition, you know, it doesn't say it in the contract now, but what could

498
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:17,780
be plugged into, or what uses could, could there be, that aren't, even on anybody's radar

499
00:51:17,780 --> 00:51:27,400
today, that by not having over, enough oversight, do we sort of let, let the horse out of the

500
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:34,380
bar in situations that we're not even thinking about just because we've come to accept it.

501
00:51:35,180 --> 00:51:56,820
And it's that piece, the accountability and oversight that I really want to talk about because it says in here that the department will maintain internal auditing practices that I really think there needs to be an independent oversight of this somebody outside the department who's doing data governance who's doing

502
00:51:56,820 --> 00:52:06,780
you know, what information is being captured, revising that, keeping up with the laws and not have it be simply an internal mechanism.

503
00:52:06,980 --> 00:52:11,940
It needs to be broader than that so that there is more oversight.

504
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:21,680
And that so people who may be more familiar with different aspects of technology can advise on maybe we shouldn't partner with this company.

505
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,580
maybe we should partner with this other company.

506
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:31,840
The idea that the police could maintain something similar,

507
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:39,080
the cost might not be there, the flock might be a much more advantageous from a cost perspective,

508
00:52:39,740 --> 00:52:47,540
but we need to be keeping that in mind, be keeping in mind our privacy and our overall data governance as we proceed with this.

509
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:47,900
Thank you.

510
00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:48,940
Thank you.

511
00:52:57,410 --> 00:53:02,310
There, Mr. Colby, there is a hand online, so we're going to go to the hand online and then

512
00:53:02,310 --> 00:53:03,990
we'll come right back to you, Mr. Pannos.

513
00:53:09,810 --> 00:53:10,570
Paul Pannos.

514
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:11,870
This is one second.

515
00:53:11,970 --> 00:53:14,530
We're going to let the person online go first.

516
00:53:15,110 --> 00:53:15,990
To our virtual car.

517
00:53:16,130 --> 00:53:16,650
You are now in mute.

518
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:17,650
Oh, I'm sorry.

519
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:20,320
Hi.

520
00:53:20,460 --> 00:53:25,780
This is Carrie Turk at 248 Pekwanagabanu and I just wanted to make a point tonight because

521
00:53:25,780 --> 00:53:28,420
these black cameras were up for five years recording.

522
00:53:28,420 --> 00:53:34,880
No one said the thing, there was no problem, and the only people that noticed that they

523
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,580
were recording anything or capturing anything were the criminals that were committing crimes

524
00:53:39,580 --> 00:53:40,220
in Windsor.

525
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:47,480
So that was the people stealing cars, that were robbing banks, that were involved in shootings,

526
00:53:48,380 --> 00:53:51,860
that helped our police departments, and other police departments solve those crimes.

527
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,420
So my point tonight is this, it's not about national politics, it's about Windsor.

528
00:53:56,420 --> 00:54:01,940
And if you choose not to turn them back on, then we are sending a clear message that

529
00:54:01,940 --> 00:54:04,040
Windsor is open for criminal activity.

530
00:54:04,540 --> 00:54:05,200
Thank you.

531
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,340
Thank you.

532
00:54:25,940 --> 00:54:26,660
Paul Panos.

533
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:28,760
48 Brookview Road.

534
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,960
These LPRs are a significant enhancement of the ability the police to be able to locate

535
00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:37,060
criminals.

536
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:42,940
Over the last three decades, Windsor has experienced significant increases in the amount of crime, including

537
00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:48,320
a lot of automobile theft. And it's with automobiles that criminals usually attempt to get away,

538
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:55,340
this thing. And the cameras help police locate. To be squeamish about having your license plate

539
00:54:55,340 --> 00:54:59,960
red makes no sense. The reason we have license plates is to have the...

540
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:29,640
Police identify our cars when we have violated the law with it, only someone else has stolen or misused it. So to be consistent, those who oppose the LPR should simply oppose license plates completely. Hiring extra police and cruises to engage in surveillance for stolen vehicles and other criminals is very expensive compared to adding a number of flock LPR cameras. In addition, it avoids the need for high-speed chases that endanger bystanders and

541
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:35,400
properties. In fact, we do well to increase the number of the flock automated license plate readers

542
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:40,080
over the current 16 in order to get better coverage of crime, especially in higher crime

543
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:46,820
neighborhoods. Now, there are 34 towns in Connecticut that use ALPRs. Among them, Hartford, Bloomfield,

544
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:55,720
Cheshire, Avon, Simsbury, Suddenton, Milford, Waterford. Each Hartford doesn't have, but they have

545
00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:58,040
traffic cameras, and same for Middletown.

546
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:06,480
So, you know, Windsor not doing us is not going to change the darn thing at the national

547
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:06,920
level.

548
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,680
The only people who would have a real personal interest in not wanting a LPR, or criminals

549
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:20,000
themselves, obviously, the people engaging in illegal activities, the police cannot use the

550
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,580
information for any reason that is not legal. Obviously, you know, something, you know,

551
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:29,460
occasionally anything, but we have people who have been taught. Unfortunately, we have

552
00:56:29,460 --> 00:56:33,580
people who have been taught to believe that our society is not worth preserving, that

553
00:56:33,580 --> 00:56:37,940
we're too materialistic and too selfish. And allowing criminals to get away with theft

554
00:56:37,940 --> 00:56:42,540
and other crimes is an altruistic sentiment, but that simply shows that some altruistic

555
00:56:42,540 --> 00:56:49,780
some of us are destructive and evil, so I urge you to pass this, bring the KLPR's back on.

556
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:50,280
Thank you.

557
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,320
Thank you.

558
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,000
George Slates, 74th and Drive.

559
00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:20,280
I note that this item is under section 12 of your agenda and not section 10.

560
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:28,040
If when I came here, two cars passed me on the double yellow line on Pukonic Ave,

561
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,660
of or past me going over 60 miles an hour on Windsor Ave.

562
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,240
The correct punishment would not be to ban cars on those roads.

563
00:57:40,460 --> 00:57:46,920
Nor would it be appropriate to stop the manufacturers for manufacturing those cars.

564
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,980
The appropriate punishment would be on the five drivers.

565
00:57:52,960 --> 00:58:01,880
The analogy could also be, you know, don't shoot the messenger for the message deliver from the center.

566
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:14,100
In all the research I've done on flock, I have yet to encounter indications that the flock camera software or cameras are deficient.

567
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:20,240
The appropriate punishment should only be for the abusers of the system.

568
00:58:21,380 --> 00:58:24,840
And I sent you about two hours ago what I found in the quick research.

569
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:31,020
Officers in states like Wisconsin and Kansas have been criminally charged,

570
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:39,140
including felony misconduct for using the flock safety network to track romantic partners or stock access.

571
00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:46,400
cases. And in places like Sedwick, Kansas, police chiefs who abused the system have had

572
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:53,840
their law enforcement certifications permanently revoked and served probation. That's the appropriate

573
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,760
punishment. You should restart the cameras and sign the new agreement.

574
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:13,420
And flocks earlier this year signed retained bishop flocks evidently a prominent firm to thoroughly test the flock hardware and software.

575
00:59:13,780 --> 00:59:25,100
When that report is complete, I hope you can get it and include it in an agenda item so we can all see that evaluation.

576
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:25,780
Thank you.

577
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,160
Thank you.

578
00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:44,100
Hello.

579
00:59:44,220 --> 00:59:44,720
My name is Charles.

580
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:45,600
I'm Jackson III.

581
00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:47,140
I live at 26 Wilson Avenue.

582
00:59:48,340 --> 00:59:53,220
While sitting here, I listen to everyone say yay or an egg for the flocks and the reasons

583
00:59:53,220 --> 00:59:53,840
for it.

584
00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:58,930
Just for giggles, I wanted to know where the flock cameras were being used.

585
00:59:58,930 --> 00:59:59,970
I realize that I've been a...

586
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:14,020
All right, I'm going to go to the floc cameras all day, not just in this time. I went to Walmart. Walmart uses floc. Went to Home Depot. Home Depot uses floc, but Home Depot didn't have what I wanted. Add to go to Los. Los uses floc.

587
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:36,960
There was a time where people would be afraid to come into Wilson after a certain period of time and it wasn't because of violence.

588
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:45,200
It was just that there was a police presence put a cop back in over at the fire department or at least put a mock car over there from time to time.

589
01:00:45,340 --> 01:00:56,160
It was various other places. If you're not going to turn these things back on, there needs to be some sort of security theater of some sort to keep the grimmels out because we've got a lot of people that are writing dirty.

590
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:01,080
And I really wish these cameras would come on, but if they don't, they don't have a good angle.

591
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:02,620
Thank you.

592
01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:09,420
All right.

593
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:16,680
So seeing if you would like to speak, we do ask that you step forward.

594
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,380
Mayor and council people.

595
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,300
My name is Sarah Gary.

596
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,200
I live in the Windsor Station Apartments.

597
01:01:36,380 --> 01:01:39,960
I also want to speak to the topic of the flood cameras.

598
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:45,640
As we recently went through three referendums for the budget and one of the big themes

599
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,300
that this town spoke out about was managing costs.

600
01:01:50,780 --> 01:01:54,900
And one of the things that I've heard other people say and I'm going to echo here is

601
01:01:54,900 --> 01:02:03,460
that how these cameras are used and how flock has access to our data and how people outside

602
01:02:03,460 --> 01:02:08,800
of the municipality have access to the data is being worked through the courts.

603
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,160
And there are several lawsuits against other municipalities happening across the country

604
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:15,460
that are actively being worked through.

605
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:22,060
And in order to protect the people of the town of Windsor from similar kinds of lawsuits,

606
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:28,740
I think it is important to understand that employing these kinds of cameras really should also

607
01:02:28,740 --> 01:02:34,880
come with a fund to prepare for the lawsuits that could similarly roll out in other cities

608
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,860
and in Windsor if we are using them.

609
01:02:37,860 --> 01:02:42,480
And at a time when the people in the town of Windsor are asking for us to be responsible

610
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:47,880
with their costs, it is not just the cost of the cameras, it is the cost of the legal

611
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,420
challenges to the cameras.

612
01:02:50,020 --> 01:02:50,960
Thank you very much.

613
01:02:51,620 --> 01:02:51,980
Thank you.

614
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,700
How do you do, esteemed council?

615
01:03:05,180 --> 01:03:10,780
My name is Christopher Stinson, I live at number nine, Holcomb Hill Road here in town.

616
01:03:10,780 --> 01:03:12,520
I've been a resident since 1974.

617
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,000
I am here in opposition to the flot cameras.

618
01:03:18,570 --> 01:03:26,000
I find this sort of warrantless surveillance absolutely antithetical to a free society.

619
01:03:26,620 --> 01:03:32,920
And I can't understand how something like this could have been approved in the first

620
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,500
place without some kind of discussion.

621
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:40,980
The lack of discussion is probably the single most disturbing part of this.

622
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,420
We have a town referendum for the budget.

623
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,340
We have a town referendum for a traffic circle that might go in.

624
01:03:49,180 --> 01:03:55,960
But something that is this serious in a front to our fourth amendment rights happens without

625
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,260
anybody saying anything in public.

626
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:03,620
There's no discussion, there's no campaigning, there's no vote.

627
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:10,480
And if the result of this is that the good people here are the ones who are going to decide

628
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:15,980
on our freedoms, then I hope you won't make the right decision.

629
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,140
Thank you very much.

630
01:04:17,500 --> 01:04:18,180
Thank you so much.

631
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,120
My name is Kay McCollough, I live at 96 Kapan Street.

632
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,300
I want to say good evening to the council, and hello to all the friendly folks behind me,

633
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:39,060
holding signs and wearing buttons, let's say surveillance off our streets and no flock.

634
01:04:40,540 --> 01:04:45,000
Myself and other volunteer petitioners have spoken to hundreds of Windsor residents and

635
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,600
people passing through Windsor for the past few days about the issue of

636
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,480
flock cameras in our town and the massive surveillance system being built

637
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,440
out across the country by companies like flock and others.

638
01:04:56,820 --> 01:04:59,540
By my estimate, about 90% of people.

639
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,100
are against these cameras. Many folks already know about this issue and are ready to take action to get them out of our community. The folks who are just hearing about it are horrified. Windsor's contract with flock was signed without any public oversight, and now the public is not just watching, we are taking action. We are gathering signatures to pass an ordinance that will cancel the flock contract and prevent future ALPR companies from coming into Windsor without public approval. That is the meaning and intention of our written ordinance,

640
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:32,800
And in a matter of days, we'll have the required number of signatures needed.

641
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:39,320
According to our charter to call a special town meeting where the public voters can come out and vote yes to approve this ordinance.

642
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:47,620
We are so thankful for this section 9.5 of our charter, which allows the public to propose and vote on ordinances and take power into our own hands.

643
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:55,140
We know you know how many people have come to these town meetings to speak out against these AI cameras.

644
01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:00,200
You have heard how there's a few people, just a few, calling for them to stay up.

645
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,260
There is no significant support for these cameras.

646
01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:07,440
You know how many people came to the meeting at first church last Wednesday

647
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,560
to oppose these cameras and organize a signature campaign to get them out.

648
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,180
Has anyone organized a meeting to keep these cameras up?

649
01:06:18,620 --> 01:06:22,480
You turned them off. There were no meetings calling for them to be turned back on.

650
01:06:23,020 --> 01:06:32,580
You simply talked about turning the back on and we had a meeting of over 80 people ready to join a campaign to cancel the contract and prevent future contracts from being signed.

651
01:06:33,340 --> 01:06:40,100
We have almost 300 signatures a few days later in the middle of a heat wave and a rain storm.

652
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:46,120
We are speaking with leaders in West Hartford who are building a complimentary campaign to get the cameras out of their towns.

653
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:51,340
We've heard from neighbors in New London, New Haven, New Norwalk, and Stanford all across

654
01:06:51,340 --> 01:06:55,480
Connecticut, people are watching Windsor as an example for how to fight back against

655
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,360
the growing mass surveillance in our communities.

656
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,800
You know what these cameras are doing.

657
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,420
You know flock is a private company that breaks laws.

658
01:07:03,540 --> 01:07:06,500
So which way you vote tonight shows what you stand for?

659
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,780
You can side with authoritarianism or you can side with democracy.

660
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,820
I'm curious which side you'll pick.

661
01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:18,180
If you fall short, the people are already organizing to fix it.

662
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,120
Thank you.

663
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:30,580
Good evening.

664
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,900
My name is Jeff Lanzai, I live at 1203 Windsor Avenue.

665
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,960
According to my president, I am a criminal.

666
01:07:40,260 --> 01:07:45,680
I'm a Democrat, and I may be a communist, according to him.

667
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:56,460
I also know that his Department of Homeland Security is in violation of over 1,000 court orders through illegal arrest.

668
01:07:57,540 --> 01:08:07,060
And even arresting people who are protesting the illegal measures that ICE is taking on the street.

669
01:08:07,060 --> 01:08:18,480
Given this information, knowing that DHS who admits themselves that they are building

670
01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:29,360
databases on individuals, I can't understand how our town would contribute their citizens

671
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:34,040
information toward building such a database on Windsor residents.

672
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:44,300
It makes no sense at all, and for that reason, alone, there's really no other reason to be against flocked cameras.

673
01:08:44,900 --> 01:08:47,080
I support the police in Windsor.

674
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:54,860
I've assisted Windsor police and investigations, and we'll do so in the future if the opportunity ever arises.

675
01:08:54,860 --> 01:09:00,820
But I definitely do not want to see you sell out wins or

676
01:09:00,820 --> 01:09:10,860
residents to a department, a federal department that is gathering information on individuals later

677
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:17,060
to prosecute them in court for exercising their free speech rights.

678
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:22,880
And there are plenty of cases going on in the United States right now where that is happening.

679
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:33,080
One needs only look at the Dallas Fort Worth trial of, I don't remember how many individuals, more than 10,

680
01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:40,280
some of who were convicted and sentenced to 30 years for being part of a book club.

681
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:50,000
So as long as they are building databases on individuals and their behavior, there's a danger for that.

682
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:55,160
But we have seen this, I have seen this at least three other times in my life.

683
01:09:55,580 --> 01:09:59,960
In the 60s and 70s, there was coin tell under rape.

684
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:21,740
There were a variety of actions against so-called leftists, and we saw the same thing under Bush over protests against the Iraq War. This is a never-ending condition that our government periodically goes into. I hope you don't sell out the town for that. Thank you.

685
01:10:48,420 --> 01:10:53,040
Good evening, my name is Lamont Andrews, I'm at 226 Deerfield Road in Windsor.

686
01:10:55,580 --> 01:10:57,580
Technology is a blessing and a curse.

687
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,960
I don't know if any of you guys have seen any of the state Will Smith-Jing-Hatman.

688
01:11:03,980 --> 01:11:05,840
Okay, so let's start there.

689
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:18,840
The man who's innocent was being chased around in a tire city because the government wanted to put him, put him, put in a crime on him.

690
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,140
These cameras aren't perfect.

691
01:11:23,020 --> 01:11:25,940
A person who looks like me can be misread.

692
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:33,380
A person who looks like you, you, and you, and a couple other people in here can be misread off of these cameras.

693
01:11:33,660 --> 01:11:34,540
They're not perfect.

694
01:11:35,300 --> 01:11:53,220
So my thing is that don't turn them on because of the fact that in my neighborhood everybody kind of looks out for each other and I also I don't patrol the campus neighborhood, but I do walk around my neighborhood to make sure that I'm get my exercise and I'm looking around and I'm meeting people.

695
01:11:54,840 --> 01:12:05,500
So, to me, I feel that their areas help whenever the authorities need it by its citizens.

696
01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:10,580
Now, I like to think that a lot of people here in this town are looking after each other

697
01:12:10,580 --> 01:12:11,480
from time to time.

698
01:12:11,820 --> 01:12:20,620
My son was born and raised in this town, and the friends that he made in school, I call

699
01:12:20,620 --> 01:12:25,820
my school kids and I still look after them to this day. They're all in their mid-twenties.

700
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:31,720
So if one of them gets in trouble, if I see what I'm having a problem, I'm there, Johnny,

701
01:12:31,820 --> 01:12:38,340
on the spot for them. I don't know if any of you guys here are able to do that for the people

702
01:12:38,340 --> 01:12:44,960
even if the cameras are there or aren't there. Our phones are tracking us more than enough.

703
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:50,600
Our

704
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,200
no reason for these cameras to be here.

705
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,180
I got eyes, I got ears, you have phones, you got cameras,

706
01:12:57,540 --> 01:12:59,520
already installed in people's homes.

707
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:05,720
So if the government is building up a database

708
01:13:06,420 --> 01:13:09,140
on these cameras, I feel that's illegal

709
01:13:09,140 --> 01:13:11,460
because everything is connected.

710
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,600
So when somebody, the cameras are judging people

711
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,780
or tracking people going across the state lines

712
01:13:17,780 --> 01:13:26,180
for my understanding is a HIPAA act because they say we're looking at your EMR records and we're

713
01:13:26,180 --> 01:13:32,560
tracking you to find out if you're going to have an abortion or not. So this is this for me,

714
01:13:32,860 --> 01:13:41,100
it's just escalates until there are no rights left for the common person. And that's all I got to

715
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:42,360
say forward now on that.

716
01:14:06,710 --> 01:14:10,730
My name is Cecilia Carita and I live at 43 Pequana

717
01:14:10,730 --> 01:14:16,310
Gavini, Department B. I also wanted to speak to on the issue of the lack of

718
01:14:16,310 --> 01:14:22,930
public input on this. I've seen lots of public hearing signs in over the years as

719
01:14:22,930 --> 01:14:29,530
I walk around Windsor and it seems off that I can go to a public hearing on whether

720
01:14:29,530 --> 01:14:35,570
a restaurant gets to have music outdoors but not about whether we get

721
01:14:35,570 --> 01:14:36,750
surveilled all over town.

722
01:14:39,670 --> 01:14:41,890
On the flip side we've seen a couple of people

723
01:14:41,890 --> 01:14:43,310
speak out in favor of them.

724
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:47,490
A friend of mine heard about this and the first

725
01:14:47,490 --> 01:14:50,290
thing she said was that there's a certain intersection where she wishes there

726
01:14:50,290 --> 01:14:55,910
was a camera because people run the red light. Public comments would also

727
01:14:55,910 --> 01:14:58,450
all you together, that kind of input.

728
01:15:00,590 --> 01:15:30,570
Gentleman here earlier today, as you wish, they will go back on as a crime deterrent measure. When I think about that, I think that publicized cameras, labeled cameras, can act as a deterrent. But when cameras go up without any discussion secretly, when we have to go to a whole separate website to find out where they are, that makes me think that the point is not to prevent

729
01:15:30,570 --> 01:15:40,030
Anyone from doing bad things in the first place, but to follow them afterwards that maybe there's more that maybe they're there, so

730
01:15:41,010 --> 01:15:45,610
Do fundraise off fines rather than to stop a bad thing from happening in the first place

731
01:15:46,650 --> 01:15:48,490
Thank you. Thank you

732
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,900
We have a online hand mr. Kobe. Yes, we do to

733
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,440
a virtual caller. You are now muted.

734
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:12,820
Thank you

735
01:16:12,820 --> 01:16:15,200
Good evening, town council and citizens.

736
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,400
This is Chris foot at 23 apple tree lane.

737
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:22,340
I was calling in in support of the flock cameras.

738
01:16:22,980 --> 01:16:26,740
I do understand initially when flock was rolled out

739
01:16:26,740 --> 01:16:27,940
across the nation.

740
01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:31,980
There really were not any controls in place around the data,

741
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,520
how it was reviewed and how it was used.

742
01:16:35,180 --> 01:16:38,300
However, those controls are now coming into place.

743
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:44,740
Connecticut's Public Act, as Chief Melonson mentioned, and is a memorandum to you.

744
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:54,660
Public Act 2614 lays a very good groundwork and foundation for the control and use of

745
01:16:54,660 --> 01:16:56,280
this data and this information.

746
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:03,900
And I hope that the citizens and the council has had a chance to review this act.

747
01:17:04,660 --> 01:17:13,280
In addition, we have to remember that this is a world of society where we have surveillance

748
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,060
constantly.

749
01:17:14,700 --> 01:17:21,040
That's in our stores, in our hands on our cell phones, and I'm not sure if there's

750
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:25,340
any way around that going forward with all of this technology.

751
01:17:25,820 --> 01:17:31,000
I agree that there has to be controls in place around the data, but flock cameras can

752
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,620
and help us solve child abductions, stolen vehicles,

753
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,220
amber alerts, so many good things as well.

754
01:17:38,780 --> 01:17:40,460
So I hope that's taken into consideration.

755
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,540
And that's all, thanks very much for your time.

756
01:17:45,430 --> 01:17:45,850
Thank you.

757
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,160
We have no other virtual attendees with our hand.

758
01:18:03,660 --> 01:18:04,220
Good evening.

759
01:18:04,580 --> 01:18:05,900
My name is Ken Irman.

760
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:08,900
I live at 428 Broad Street here in town.

761
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:15,820
I've been aware of the flock cameras for about a year now,

762
01:18:15,820 --> 01:18:21,460
And I have spoken to you all numerous times in this chamber and in the Health and Safety Committee.

763
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:28,540
I've paid attention to the recent proposals that flock has put out and

764
01:18:28,540 --> 01:18:34,760
the newer ordinance or whatever you're going to vote on tonight, I'm not sure the right terminology for that.

765
01:18:35,380 --> 01:18:41,360
And my opinion on the, my concerns about flock cameras has not changed.

766
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:47,300
It's still an emerging technology, it is subject to abuse.

767
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:53,260
Now, and I say that fully trusting our town police department,

768
01:18:53,950 --> 01:18:58,080
their intentions, their service to us, and I appreciate all of them.

769
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,760
It's not them I worry about, I worry about what the other towns,

770
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:08,520
the other surrounding states that will have access to our data can do with those things.

771
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,900
is because we do not know what they are going to do.

772
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,420
We do not know if they have the same standards

773
01:19:15,420 --> 01:19:19,240
or if they have the same attitudes towards our information.

774
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,160
I'm concerned about hacking

775
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,660
and I'm concerned about our federal government

776
01:19:24,660 --> 01:19:29,040
abusing the data and taking it and using it against people.

777
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,560
So tonight I ask you not to reinstate,

778
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,540
not to turn the flock cameras back on

779
01:19:36,540 --> 01:19:39,380
and to cancel the contract.

780
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:40,380
Thank you.

781
01:19:40,780 --> 01:19:41,360
Thank you.

782
01:19:54,570 --> 01:19:55,270
Good evening.

783
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:56,050
Good evening.

784
01:19:56,710 --> 01:19:59,810
I'm Beth Kuroso of 147 Pleasants.

785
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,400
Great, I am adamantly opposed to the cameras.

786
01:20:05,860 --> 01:20:13,080
I want to bring up the fact that people who are

787
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:22,500
for the cameras don't seem to understand that there is a problem with this technology.

788
01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:35,240
The rates of mistakes that happen with this AI technology along with so many other AI technologies is very, very high.

789
01:20:35,900 --> 01:20:51,960
We've heard four examples just listening tonight of people, some of the people in Windsor themselves who were unfairly targeted because of the mistakes with the technology.

790
01:20:51,960 --> 01:21:03,640
And there is built-in bias with this AI technology that unfairly targets African Americans,

791
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:08,320
Native Americans, women, minorities, and general.

792
01:21:09,140 --> 01:21:13,620
And that is something that I think we need to be very, very careful about.

793
01:21:14,260 --> 01:21:17,660
For me, it's not a matter of not supporting the police.

794
01:21:17,660 --> 01:21:22,480
I've had very positive interactions with the Windsor Police, and I do appreciate them.

795
01:21:23,140 --> 01:21:26,360
But I don't think they need this technology.

796
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:31,720
They have plenty of other technologies at their disposal.

797
01:21:33,340 --> 01:21:37,960
To say people, you know, you don't need to worry unless you're a criminal.

798
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:42,380
Like I said before, no, that's absolutely not the case.

799
01:21:42,380 --> 01:21:53,040
If you are unfairly targeted and, you know, the AI puts out misinformation about you, it's a nightmare to clear up.

800
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:58,900
And it seems counter to living in a democratic society.

801
01:21:59,740 --> 01:22:02,440
So that's all I have to say. Thank you very much.

802
01:22:02,860 --> 01:22:03,340
Thank you.

803
01:22:17,890 --> 01:22:21,230
Good evening. Ryan, you want to swing on Remington Road?

804
01:22:21,970 --> 01:22:24,150
I just have a couple quick things.

805
01:22:24,150 --> 01:22:32,450
One is that I'm unsure why we decided to, the Windsor decided to contract with a private company for

806
01:22:32,450 --> 01:22:41,350
flock cameras if we're already using a state-run ALPR system run by the state troopers.

807
01:22:42,350 --> 01:22:45,890
So I'm curious what the rationale is there.

808
01:22:46,630 --> 01:22:51,950
And I feel like if it's that important to use an ALPR system, we should just use that system we're already using.

809
01:22:52,490 --> 01:22:59,850
My second point here is, I think the rationale for this whole thing, these cameras, is that they're on a public right of way, right?

810
01:23:00,030 --> 01:23:02,530
So we don't really have any expectation of privacy.

811
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:09,290
I would point out that if we're on that public right of way, those video feeds are public information as well.

812
01:23:10,090 --> 01:23:13,650
So if we have those feeds up, those are foyaable.

813
01:23:14,110 --> 01:23:17,490
People are going to foya you for those video feeds.

814
01:23:17,490 --> 01:23:24,310
So I mean, I think just think about the costs that would be associated with that, if you get those FOIA requests.

815
01:23:24,510 --> 01:23:31,170
And I know some towns in Washington State have, for example, taken them down because of the costs associated with those FOIA requests.

816
01:23:31,810 --> 01:23:34,990
So just something to consider as you think about this.

817
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:35,930
Thank you so much.

818
01:23:36,110 --> 01:23:36,670
Thank you.

819
01:23:42,210 --> 01:23:47,150
All right, so we'll bring public communications and petitions to a close.

820
01:23:48,030 --> 01:23:50,790
And we'll move to item number six on our agenda.

821
01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:53,230
which is communications from council members.

822
01:23:54,030 --> 01:23:57,030
And I just want to begin first by saying, again,

823
01:23:57,390 --> 01:24:00,870
happy 250th birthday to America.

824
01:24:01,510 --> 01:24:03,970
And I do hope that everyone enjoyed their fourth.

825
01:24:04,570 --> 01:24:07,830
We do have several events that are going to be taking place this week

826
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:12,830
on the green as we continue to celebrate the 250th.

827
01:24:13,130 --> 01:24:18,450
Also wanted to pause to say thank you to every voter who took time

828
01:24:18,450 --> 01:24:28,210
to come out for our referendum during that time frame May through June, I was going to

829
01:24:28,210 --> 01:24:32,670
say July, I'm like no, May through June. There was a lot of conversation in regards to

830
01:24:32,670 --> 01:24:40,330
our budget and a lot of emails, phone calls, conversations online and just want to say that

831
01:24:40,330 --> 01:24:46,250
the information that was shared for me, that's democracy. Having input, hearing everybody's

832
01:24:46,250 --> 01:24:52,730
views, thoughts, opinions. So thank you to everyone who took time to weigh in on the budget

833
01:24:52,730 --> 01:24:58,050
referendum. There's a lot of pieces that came up, conversations about what can be done,

834
01:24:58,570 --> 01:24:59,690
how can we look at?

835
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,820
Our tax bills differently. I know that Councillor Naim will talk a bit more about that, but that's real. We need to respond to where we are as a society. So just want everyone to know that if you shared commentary with any one of us up here, know that it was taken into consideration and more to come in how we look at our tax bills, how we look at our taxes here in the town of Windsor. Also wanted to say thank you to the residents and also to the council.

836
01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:34,040
So I was out for a few weeks and thank you.

837
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,200
Thank you for the phone calls, thank you for the cards.

838
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,700
Thanks for just checking in to see how I was doing.

839
01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:46,340
I'm getting there, not 100% but I'm almost there, but happy to actually be in the council chambers this evening for this meeting.

840
01:25:46,540 --> 01:25:50,380
So I wanted to publicly say thank you to our residents for that.

841
01:25:51,060 --> 01:25:52,160
And lastly,

842
01:25:54,290 --> 01:25:59,930
I wanted to just share that as a town.

843
01:26:00,710 --> 01:26:29,470
So much happens here, this summer we have the farmers market, we have the concerts on the green and really hope that we'll have an opportunity to just continue to see each other and talk with each other, irrespective of thoughts, ideas, opinions, that's what makes Windsor such a great place to be, is the diversity of opinion is there, but we can still have good fellowship and fun together at our concerts, the farmers market and all the other amazing things that happen here in town.

844
01:26:29,930 --> 01:26:32,730
So with that, I will conclude my commentary

845
01:26:32,730 --> 01:26:34,510
and considerate.

846
01:26:34,650 --> 01:26:35,690
Do you have anything this evening?

847
01:26:36,030 --> 01:26:36,670
You left me something.

848
01:26:41,050 --> 01:26:43,370
Well, one, I'm happy to see you're back and well.

849
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:44,490
Thank you.

850
01:26:44,750 --> 01:26:48,570
Two, I enjoyed the last budget season.

851
01:26:49,090 --> 01:26:50,310
It was my first one.

852
01:26:50,570 --> 01:26:53,030
And thank you for the opportunity to do it three times.

853
01:26:54,110 --> 01:26:54,170
Come.

854
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:56,990
You know, we've had five.

855
01:26:56,990 --> 01:26:59,810
Well, we don't push it.

856
01:27:02,650 --> 01:27:03,950
I haven't said that.

857
01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:05,390
I hope everyone has a nice voice of joy.

858
01:27:05,630 --> 01:27:11,150
I didn't do anything, but watch TV and watch the fireworks show down in Washington, D.C.

859
01:27:13,190 --> 01:27:20,770
And having said that, I just want to make a comment of, you know, as a new member of the town council,

860
01:27:20,770 --> 01:27:24,090
So I have learned that we have a responsibility

861
01:27:24,090 --> 01:27:28,290
as town councilman to all of the residents of Windsor.

862
01:27:29,090 --> 01:27:32,790
Not just a couple, not just a few that come out and speak.

863
01:27:33,710 --> 01:27:35,690
There's a lot of people out there who have nothing to say,

864
01:27:36,290 --> 01:27:37,610
but they make their presence known.

865
01:27:38,450 --> 01:27:40,110
And as a town councilman, I have learned

866
01:27:40,620 --> 01:27:41,950
that we have to listen.

867
01:27:42,690 --> 01:27:46,210
And not all the decisions are going to make everyone happy.

868
01:27:47,170 --> 01:27:49,530
But then again, this is the real world

869
01:27:49,530 --> 01:27:54,310
then we can't make everybody happy. I wish we could. Maybe in another day, as I know

870
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:59,970
the time. So, anyway, it was a vote. Keep you much longer. I just like to thank everyone

871
01:27:59,970 --> 01:28:06,250
for coming out and voting. I hope everyone had a nice Fourth of July. And I'm glad the

872
01:28:06,250 --> 01:28:09,910
mayor is back as well. And having said that, I'll turn my-

873
01:28:11,740 --> 01:28:13,780
Thank you, Councillor Durent. Councillor King.

874
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,460
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Just want to thank everyone for coming out today. And I'm going

875
01:28:18,460 --> 01:28:20,660
I lose my voice, so I won't stop talking, but thank you, yes.

876
01:28:21,700 --> 01:28:22,760
Thank you, Councillor Kain.

877
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:23,400
Councillor Pellke.

878
01:28:23,820 --> 01:28:24,400
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

879
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:31,300
I am not going to be here on Thursday, but I would encourage everybody who was able to

880
01:28:31,300 --> 01:28:36,200
find some time to come out tonight to find some time to come out to this area of town on

881
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:36,760
Thursday.

882
01:28:37,540 --> 01:28:43,420
I know we had the July 4th festivities and 250th festivities planned for here on the green,

883
01:28:43,420 --> 01:28:48,660
but due to the extreme heat that got canceled and pushed so that is again just

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01:28:48,660 --> 01:28:52,460
reminded everybody that's going to be reoccurring this week so I'd like them

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01:28:52,460 --> 01:28:57,900
to come out. I also want to just kind of push something out there for folks who

886
01:28:57,900 --> 01:29:04,380
they've maybe heard of the program but I want to both congratulate and thank Chief

887
01:29:04,380 --> 01:29:08,680
Bianchi from the Windsor Volunteer Fire Department and the certified staff and

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01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:12,520
folks at the high school. I managed to have a conversation when I didn't

889
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:18,900
with him last week, that there were 90 high school students interested in the firefighters

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01:29:19,700 --> 01:29:26,160
programs. So that's the data that he shared with me. And I don't know the exact number

891
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:30,060
of students in the high school, but basically he said that's like 9% to 10% of the school

892
01:29:30,060 --> 01:29:35,180
population is interested in the firefighting course. And that's one of those programs I know

893
01:29:35,180 --> 01:29:40,560
even before I was elected to council. I kind of conveyed to the Board of Education that

894
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:50,680
that those sort of career opportunity classes are really worth pursuing and I'm glad to see that he and again the folks at the high school have done such a wonderful job with that one because

895
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:59,980
while there's always elective courses and those sort of things for students to take the fact that they're willing to sign up and take a course like this that

896
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,920
That can be very challenging mentally, physically. It's just no disrespect to anybody else, but man, I don't know if I would have done it when I was in school myself. I mean, I think it would have been cool, but I don't know if I would have been able to do it. So I don't know if they're going to have two sections, three sections, four sections, what they're going to be able to have, but it's just the idea that 90 of our students expressed an interest in a firefighting course here in town. That's really cool to me, and I think that bodes well for the civic engagement that we foster.

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01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:37,220
here in Windsor and for maybe sort of a rebirth of a fire department in the years to come

898
01:30:37,220 --> 01:30:42,580
hopefully sooner rather than later because those men and women do a really, really outstanding

899
01:30:42,580 --> 01:30:47,840
job for us. That being said, I'll let you guys look on Facebook, a battle of the badges,

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01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:53,800
our fire personnel are going to be having their charity softball tournament coming up free

901
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:59,300
event cheer on the heroes of our community. And with that Madam Mayor, I'm all set.

902
01:30:59,860 --> 01:31:00,740
Thank you, Councillor Volkey.

903
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:01,100
Thank you.

904
01:31:01,700 --> 01:31:02,220
House Armstrong.

905
01:31:02,860 --> 01:31:03,720
Thank you Madam Mayor.

906
01:31:04,060 --> 01:31:09,200
Good evening to everyone here tonight. It's always good to see those of you out and expressing

907
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:14,060
your opinions and I always say we do listen, we discuss and we hear you.

908
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:21,180
In this season, I do say also that we take care of ourselves and remember to watch out for

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01:31:21,180 --> 01:31:28,000
you're elderly and for those that you don't see quite often, these days have been awfully heated.

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01:31:28,780 --> 01:31:34,600
The other thing I do also appreciate the little leaders coming out.

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01:31:34,940 --> 01:31:39,880
It's always good to know that our youth are out there and that we support them as we should.

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01:31:40,620 --> 01:31:48,860
And also, let us continue to support our businesses that are in town as we frequent Windsor Center and

913
01:31:48,860 --> 01:31:54,600
There are other businesses we see that they will thrive because we have everything we need in Windsor.

914
01:31:55,480 --> 01:31:58,320
And continue to know that health as well.

915
01:31:58,840 --> 01:31:59,860
Thank you Madam Mayor.

916
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:00,720
Thank you.

917
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:02,160
Councillor Overture.

918
01:32:02,580 --> 01:32:03,380
Thank you very much, Madam.

919
01:32:04,060 --> 01:32:09,540
Thank all those who came out to speak and those who wrote notes to us.

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01:32:10,660 --> 01:32:14,680
It's important that we hear what the residents have to say.

921
01:32:17,220 --> 01:32:23,620
The festivities on Thursday should provide an opportunity to meet some of the local organizations

922
01:32:23,620 --> 01:32:26,660
in town that are going to be out on the green.

923
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:31,040
If you're not involved, then one of the local groups get involved.

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01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:32,960
That's what makes Windsor great.

925
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:42,260
Your involvement in civic groups that benefit the residents of Windsor and or the residents

926
01:32:42,260 --> 01:32:53,340
Worldwide. A member of the Rotary Club, I'll throw kudos to them. Most of you probably

927
01:32:53,340 --> 01:33:01,200
don't even realize, but most people don't even remember what Polio is. I do. And the Rotary

928
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:06,840
Club actually helped get rid of Polio worldwide. It's only sitting in a few countries now.

929
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,300
And hopefully we'll see you all out on the green on Thursday.

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01:33:12,860 --> 01:33:13,520
Thank you.

931
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:15,080
Thank you, Councillor Elleveld.

932
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:15,600
Councillor Neill.

933
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:16,540
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

934
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:18,680
Happy Independence Day.

935
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:19,500
Independence week.

936
01:33:19,700 --> 01:33:25,940
Thank you all for coming out and sharing your thoughts, opinions, and continuing to do so.

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01:33:26,180 --> 01:33:29,600
I thought I wouldn't see a full room after budget season was over.

938
01:33:29,740 --> 01:33:32,560
I'm very glad everyone could continue coming out here.

939
01:33:32,940 --> 01:33:34,800
I hope to see you all again in August.

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01:33:34,800 --> 01:34:04,420
I guess I'm sure we'll have a lively agenda then as well, but no, seriously, it helps us to hear from all of you, and we try to be everywhere we can, but we can't always be at all places, so when you all come out, when you write to us, when you show up online, when you call those things matters, so thank you for doing it, and I'll just echo everyone also said stay cool, it is going to get warm again, looking forward to seeing everyone on Thursday for the festivities, and I know I have some finance and other updates,

941
01:34:04,420 --> 01:34:05,720
We'll hit those out of those items.

942
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:05,940
Go.

943
01:34:06,300 --> 01:34:06,780
All right.

944
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:07,280
Thank you.

945
01:34:07,620 --> 01:34:08,060
Thank you.

946
01:34:10,580 --> 01:34:11,480
Comfort live Hoffman.

947
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,680
Do we make an announcement together?

948
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:14,940
We should do it together.

949
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:15,520
We should do it together.

950
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:15,800
We should do it together, right?

951
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:16,660
So I don't get any trouble.

952
01:34:17,060 --> 01:34:17,240
All right.

953
01:34:17,380 --> 01:34:17,520
Okay.

954
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:18,980
You ready?

955
01:34:19,300 --> 01:34:19,480
Ready?

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01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:20,140
You.

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01:34:20,380 --> 01:34:22,780
So there is, we do want to make an announcement.

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01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:29,740
If anybody sees on the plaza, the owners of the plaza are kind enough on occasion to, if they're

959
01:34:29,740 --> 01:34:33,780
requested to put information on there for somebody special birthday or an event of some sort.

960
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:38,060
There is someone special in town that has been very involved for many years, he attended

961
01:34:38,060 --> 01:34:38,680
school with him.

962
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:39,140
It's engaged?

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01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:39,520
Correct.

964
01:34:41,140 --> 01:34:45,120
I guess we would call him Mr. Shabder being maybe, he had been very involved with Shabder

965
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:51,220
week for 20 plus years and part of the Windsor J.C.'s, and I'll let you say the name and

966
01:34:51,220 --> 01:34:52,040
for that.

967
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:53,040
Definitely.

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01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:59,880
And so, just wanted to make mention of that as comes to Elville, mentioned how important is to continue.

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01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:29,180
We're being involved in our civic organizations and Mr. John Jerry, who celebrated a really big birthday a few days ago. We just want to say, I won't say the number, because we'll really get in trouble. But, you know, 25 again is always good. So happy birthday, John Jerry from, from your good friends here in the town of Windsor. All right. The only thing I wanted to mention was because everybody has echoed everything. Big thank you to everybody that came out and voted.

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01:35:29,180 --> 01:35:40,760
We appreciate that very much in listening and hearing that vote, but very important the public works with all this heat that's been going on are public works folks have been out there working really hard to if you see them say thank you.

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01:35:41,060 --> 01:35:43,500
They were really hard for us to make the town look beautiful.

972
01:35:44,340 --> 01:35:44,580
That's it.

973
01:35:45,020 --> 01:35:46,380
Thank you, Councillor Blacoffe.

974
01:35:46,780 --> 01:35:47,280
W here.

975
01:35:48,900 --> 01:35:50,920
I have nothing to no comments.

976
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:51,440
Thank you.

977
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,220
All right, thank you.

978
01:35:54,820 --> 01:35:59,240
So, with that said, I will bring communications from our council members to a close.

979
01:35:59,620 --> 01:36:04,440
Again, please remember all the activities on the green in celebration of the 250th birthday

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01:36:04,440 --> 01:36:05,020
of our country.

981
01:36:05,740 --> 01:36:08,540
And I will move to reports of appointed boards and commissions.

982
01:36:08,860 --> 01:36:13,720
And I do see Secretary Zatter in the audience coming with the Board of Education.

983
01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:21,350
Good evening, and just so you all know, the U.S. men's team is down one to Belgium at the

984
01:36:21,350 --> 01:36:21,610
half.

985
01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:22,810
Thank you for that.

986
01:36:23,610 --> 01:36:27,650
So, we're all just going to take a deep breath and shoot out some positive energy because

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01:36:27,650 --> 01:36:29,410
they're going to need it.

988
01:36:29,490 --> 01:36:31,250
Those of us who are recording, thank you.

989
01:36:31,410 --> 01:36:31,990
Oh my God.

990
01:36:32,210 --> 01:36:33,030
We're going to watch it later.

991
01:36:33,410 --> 01:36:33,830
Come on.

992
01:36:33,850 --> 01:36:35,950
You're going to hit the oilers anyway.

993
01:36:37,610 --> 01:36:37,630
Okay.

994
01:36:38,030 --> 01:36:38,150
Right.

995
01:36:38,850 --> 01:36:43,490
So, on Tuesday, June 9th, Windsor High School had their graduation.

996
01:36:45,470 --> 01:36:50,690
Graceland LaCos was our valedictorian and Evelyn Schwartz was our salutorian.

997
01:36:51,730 --> 01:37:00,710
The graduation ceremonies were held also for the 15 adult education students as well as five of our community-based transition academy students.

998
01:37:00,950 --> 01:37:03,510
So we have their graduation as well, congratulations to all.

999
01:37:04,570 --> 01:37:12,930
We also really, speaking of community partnerships and all of the amazing civic organizations that we have, we do want to extend our gratitude.

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01:37:12,930 --> 01:37:31,230
we did have over $138,000 in scholarships for our seniors this year that were given away on awards night on May 28th, so thank you to all of those who support the fundraisers that help provide those scholarships to our students.

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01:37:32,570 --> 01:37:37,750
Our district administrators finished out the school year with their annual end of leadership retreat.

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01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:42,890
They traveled around on the mobile classroom and met families and handed out books and activities.

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01:37:43,230 --> 01:37:47,850
Literally with megathones walking down streets, having kids come out and grab the books.

1004
01:37:48,230 --> 01:37:52,410
So it was really great to see them so invested in getting out in the community.

1005
01:37:53,190 --> 01:37:54,550
And we love the mobile classroom.

1006
01:37:54,570 --> 01:37:57,030
We think that's just an amazing addition to Windsor Public Schools.

1007
01:37:58,050 --> 01:38:06,710
We also want to make sure that the families know that the Summer Food Program is running from June 22nd to August 21st.

1008
01:38:06,710 --> 01:38:11,130
Monday through Friday, we will be at Shashan Park.

1009
01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:20,210
We will be at John Fitch Park on Bloomfield, and then if there's any changes, everything

1010
01:38:20,210 --> 01:38:21,750
will be posted on our website.

1011
01:38:22,410 --> 01:38:27,250
Due to federal regulations for summer food service programs, the children must be present

1012
01:38:27,250 --> 01:38:34,610
that are eligible for the meal, and they do have to consume that meal on site just so families

1013
01:38:34,610 --> 01:38:35,090
are aware.

1014
01:38:35,090 --> 01:38:39,830
And the menus are posted on the district website, just in case people want to check before they go.

1015
01:38:40,930 --> 01:38:50,310
We've kicked off the Windsor Public School Summer Reading Program for the students, families should visit the district website or town libraries for more information and further recommended books.

1016
01:38:51,090 --> 01:38:58,090
The annual summer block party will be held at the high school on Thursday, August 27th, from 4pm to 7pm.

1017
01:38:58,090 --> 01:39:03,110
There will be food activities and freebies available and students can meet their teachers.

1018
01:39:03,110 --> 01:39:07,770
Always a fantastic event, it gets bigger and better every year, so looking forward to that one.

1019
01:39:08,630 --> 01:39:15,170
We do want to remind families to register and update their returning children information on power school.

1020
01:39:15,850 --> 01:39:23,870
That's an important piece of the puzzle for us as we start getting ready for the return that will be in September.

1021
01:39:24,750 --> 01:39:29,270
There's a banner on the district website too that they can access all of the medical

1022
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:32,170
forms that are needed or parent registration forms.

1023
01:39:33,250 --> 01:39:40,530
And then obviously, Windsor Visitor website, www.winsorct.org for the most current information

1024
01:39:40,530 --> 01:39:44,270
related to athletic schedules and our academic calendar.

1025
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:49,410
That is what is on the paper, but I do want to take a moment to talk about something else

1026
01:39:49,410 --> 01:39:59,230
that we're very excited about on the Board of Education, because you know I like to sprinkle a little positivity in there, but also like to always give Mr. Peltie something exciting.

1027
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:29,920
I would like to think about related to our curriculum. So I am very excited to announce that the new early learning model is going to be kicked off in September. So we did have a discussion about this in the Board of Education at our June 16th meeting and if you fast forward to the very end, you'll see the presentation, Dr. Haiti gave us, which was very exciting. So just to touch on this really quickly about what it is, it is a comprehensive research based instructional

1028
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:35,480
framework for kindergarten through grade two. So our youngest babies and it is going

1029
01:40:35,480 --> 01:40:45,600
to be launching in September of 2026. A lot of, we hear a lot of community comments

1030
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,560
around, you know, just sometimes the U.S. school system seems to be dragging a little

1031
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:57,180
bit behind a lot of other countries. So this particular program is not a change in curriculum,

1032
01:40:57,180 --> 01:41:00,580
It's a change in how we are teaching our curriculum.

1033
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,620
So it's informed by the world's top systems,

1034
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,680
including Finland, Estonia, Singapore, and Japan,

1035
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,300
and has been adapted for the Windsor students

1036
01:41:09,300 --> 01:41:10,120
in the community.

1037
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:15,020
It's also grounded in science, right?

1038
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:19,700
Science says that K-2 is most neurologically sensitive window

1039
01:41:19,700 --> 01:41:21,800
of a child's life, and the connections

1040
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:25,200
formed at that stage, covering their reading, reasoning,

1041
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,640
and emotional regulation for decades to come.

1042
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:33,500
So a lot of this is Harvard's center of developing children

1043
01:41:33,500 --> 01:41:36,100
can form 1 million neural connections per second

1044
01:41:36,380 --> 01:41:38,040
in the early childhood years.

1045
01:41:38,660 --> 01:41:41,620
We are eliminating that screen-based learning

1046
01:41:41,620 --> 01:41:43,300
from our K-3-2 programs.

1047
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:50,320
So we're really going back into that hands-on play learning.

1048
01:41:50,320 --> 01:42:00,760
There are links, as I'm sure everyone has seen, that relates early screen exposure to reduced executive function and language delays.

1049
01:42:01,480 --> 01:42:05,540
So screen-based phonics programs have been consistently underperforming.

1050
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:13,260
So we're going to be removing that, and we're going to be moving back to small group teacher lead instructions only.

1051
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:30,120
There's a whole ton of information related to the 10 pillars, again, not going to take you through it all, but really encourage you to take a look at the last Board of Ed meeting where it is all explained very thoroughly, and again, as always, Dr.

1052
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:37,020
Haiti always welcomes the Board of Ed members and the town council members to step into the classroom and see it firsthand.

1053
01:42:37,020 --> 01:42:44,140
And so please consider visiting one of our K-2 schools in early September as they kick this program off.

1054
01:42:44,480 --> 01:42:50,920
I think it's going to be amazing and I'm really, really excited to see what this cohort does over the next several years.

1055
01:42:52,730 --> 01:42:55,320
Thank you, Secretary Zahar, for that thorough report.

1056
01:42:55,900 --> 01:42:57,120
Counselors, any questions?

1057
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:58,080
Comments?

1058
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:02,420
All right, well, thank you so much.

1059
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:03,720
All right, all right.

1060
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:09,520
All right, so I'll move to the town manager's report, Mr. Suza.

1061
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:10,660
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1062
01:43:11,060 --> 01:43:20,200
A few items this evening, I just wanted folks to take time this month to recognize Parks and Recreation Month.

1063
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:34,560
Our department does a wonderful job all 12 months, but on a national level, the National Parks and Recreation Association recognizes July as Parks and Rec Month.

1064
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,140
I encourage folks to go to the town's website.

1065
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:43,660
There's a whole host of activities for everyone from young toddlers up to our seniors.

1066
01:43:44,380 --> 01:43:47,760
And so many of those are free events as well.

1067
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:55,200
Council, Pellke had mentioned on this Thursday, July 9th, the activity of the town green.

1068
01:43:55,720 --> 01:44:03,860
I just want to add to that, there will be some traffic modifications in northbound lanes on broad street.

1069
01:44:03,860 --> 01:44:12,220
We'll be closed between Batchelder and roughly Maple Street or Palisato, excuse me, Palisato.

1070
01:44:12,700 --> 01:44:16,920
And so the those Northbound cars will be detoured onto Batchelder,

1071
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:22,320
on to make mechanics and then back out to 159 or Broad Street.

1072
01:44:22,940 --> 01:44:27,700
And so Southbound travel will remain open as normal.

1073
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:37,820
So also it's activities that are happening out there, one of our activities this coming Saturday is the bottle and

1074
01:44:37,820 --> 01:44:47,320
can drive that the robotics teams host and so it's a fundraiser that they do several times a year is July 11th from 9 until

1075
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:53,720
to 20 William Street. William Street is the street between McDonald's and the

1076
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:57,060
Fire and A.M.S. Building and so you go to the back there and team

1077
01:44:57,060 --> 01:44:59,200
God who uses the former.

1078
01:45:00,270 --> 01:45:27,890
WVA EMS building is there in the great fundraiser opportunity for Team Paragon and the other two robotics teams. Also on the 11th, I guess I get a lot of things to do on the 11th. There is the Windsor Freedom Trail Committee is hosting a food drive to support the Windsor Fuel Bank, and that's going to be Saturday the 11th from 10 until 2 at the Archibald Memorial,

1079
01:45:27,890 --> 01:45:32,330
the federal Army Church on Hayden Station Road.

1080
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:45,360
Okay, those individuals that are eligible to vote in the Democratic primary on August 11th are able to receive or

1081
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:52,300
do early voting between August 3rd through the 9th.

1082
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,880
And there will be some evening hours available as well.

1083
01:45:55,880 --> 01:46:00,880
We all encourage folks to go to the town's website, town clerks website for those specific dates.

1084
01:46:01,380 --> 01:46:09,020
And also absentee ballots are available and those have been available for about five or six days now.

1085
01:46:09,180 --> 01:46:15,340
So we can get absentee ballots as well as if you're eligible to vote in the primary on August 11th.

1086
01:46:15,340 --> 01:46:18,980
With the multiple referendums this year,

1087
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:24,220
The issuance or the mailing of the real estate personal property and

1088
01:46:24,220 --> 01:46:31,460
the vehicle tax bills has been delayed, so they're re-mailed out by July 24th.

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01:46:31,820 --> 01:46:35,620
They will be due August 1st

1090
01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:41,870
and must be paid in full by the end of the day,

1091
01:46:42,250 --> 01:46:46,150
Tuesday, this 1st of September to avoid any interest.

1092
01:46:46,150 --> 01:46:55,870
So we'll mail them out the end of this month by the July 24th, and they're doing full by Tuesday, September 1st to avoid any interest charges.

1093
01:46:56,650 --> 01:47:15,230
And lastly, this September 11th will be commemorating the 25th anniversary of the tragedies that the nation had to experience

1094
01:47:15,230 --> 01:47:21,650
through our walk of light community remembrance ceremony on the green.

1095
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:31,350
And so I bring this up now because we decorate, as a community, we decorate 2,977 luminary bags.

1096
01:47:32,090 --> 01:47:37,310
And so we involve the school childrens from both the public schools and private schools here in town.

1097
01:47:37,750 --> 01:47:44,490
But we also ask the community to participate in that ceremony by

1098
01:47:44,490 --> 01:47:48,370
by helping to decorate these luminary bags.

1099
01:47:48,650 --> 01:47:55,070
So on July 9th, we will have town staff on the town green as part of the events and

1100
01:47:55,070 --> 01:48:02,770
folks are able to stop by decorate a luminary or two and so folks can go on to the town's

1101
01:48:02,770 --> 01:48:04,510
website to learn more about the event.

1102
01:48:04,670 --> 01:48:10,230
The event itself will be on the 11th of September starting at 6 o'clock here on the town

1103
01:48:10,230 --> 01:48:10,490
green.

1104
01:48:11,770 --> 01:48:14,790
Madam Mayor, that concludes my report for this evening.

1105
01:48:17,050 --> 01:48:18,850
Thank you so much, Mr. Sousa.

1106
01:48:19,450 --> 01:48:22,850
Councillors, any questions or comments for Mr. Sousa in his report?

1107
01:48:27,230 --> 01:48:27,410
All right.

1108
01:48:27,710 --> 01:48:28,690
Well, thank you so much.

1109
01:48:31,230 --> 01:48:35,130
Moving on to item number nine, reports of standing committees.

1110
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:36,790
Councillor King.

1111
01:48:38,410 --> 01:48:39,870
Nothing to report, Madam Mayor.

1112
01:48:40,110 --> 01:48:40,710
Thank you.

1113
01:48:42,630 --> 01:48:44,530
Councillor Armstrong, anything to report?

1114
01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:46,810
I know we have a lot to talk about in a few.

1115
01:48:50,470 --> 01:48:57,870
Thank you so much. I just want to read it again. Thank you to everyone that came out to vote in our third referendum.

1116
01:48:58,570 --> 01:49:06,750
I would return out while we would like to see it be higher. It was consistent, so thank you for all for staying with us through these early summer months.

1117
01:49:08,330 --> 01:49:13,110
As we look at future meetings, I just want to talk a little bit about things that will have our agenda.

1118
01:49:13,110 --> 01:49:17,670
And our next meeting will likely be hitting our fiscal year end conversations.

1119
01:49:18,210 --> 01:49:20,910
So looking at how we did for the year where different funds were.

1120
01:49:21,570 --> 01:49:25,830
But in future meetings, we will be taking up amongst other items.

1121
01:49:26,270 --> 01:49:36,210
Topics including potentially breaking up the tax bill are Goldilocks question in terms of what it would look like.

1122
01:49:36,210 --> 01:49:43,410
we put something like that on the budget referendum, as well as revisiting some of our tax credit programs.

1123
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:47,370
So if you have other items you'd like to see from a finance perspective,

1124
01:49:47,930 --> 01:49:53,470
love to hear it before budget season starts again, and we usually kick back up early fall.

1125
01:49:53,710 --> 01:49:57,930
So please do reach out and let us know. That is it. Thank you.

1126
01:49:57,930 --> 01:49:59,490
All right, thank you so much.

1127
01:50:00,340 --> 01:50:30,220
All right, deputy mayor, anything from town improvements? We had a meeting on June 29th, and we did talk about the veterans poll concept study, which we'll be bringing to at a future date. And we talked about the train station HVAC replacement project. We had some papillal projects updates on pigeonhole road, prospectile road and wild park. So that will be coming. You'll see all of that soon. So just wanted to give you an update on that. All right. Thank you. This evening, I don't believe we have any ordinance.

1128
01:50:30,740 --> 01:50:37,660
And there is no unfinished business, so we'll move into item number 12, new business.

1129
01:50:38,480 --> 01:50:39,580
And is there a motion?

1130
01:50:40,020 --> 01:50:54,100
I move to accept the sidewalk easement for 425 day hell road has shown on plan entitled easement for sidewalk to be acquired from day hell road LLC by the town of Windsor, 425 day hell road Windsor,

1131
01:50:54,100 --> 01:51:02,520
Connecticut by Alfred Associates Inc. dated 122, 2026 scale, one inch equals 40 feet.

1132
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:04,740
That's good.

1133
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:05,360
Oh

1134
01:51:08,170 --> 01:51:08,550
specific.

1135
01:51:08,810 --> 01:51:09,090
Thank you.

1136
01:51:09,470 --> 01:51:10,050
Second.

1137
01:51:10,650 --> 01:51:12,110
Thank you, Councillor Naiveen.

1138
01:51:12,590 --> 01:51:12,890
All right.

1139
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:13,550
Mr. Susan.

1140
01:51:13,810 --> 01:51:14,530
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1141
01:51:14,690 --> 01:51:22,090
I'm going to invite up of Suzanne Chote, our town engineer, and Suzanne is going to provide a brief overview of this request.

1142
01:51:23,750 --> 01:51:24,890
Good evening.

1143
01:51:25,810 --> 01:51:26,410
Good evening.

1144
01:51:26,410 --> 01:51:31,670
A 425-day Hill Road was redeveloped with a flex industrial building.

1145
01:51:32,070 --> 01:51:41,930
The site plan was originally approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission in March of 2023, and it's had amendments approved March of this year.

1146
01:51:42,530 --> 01:51:54,010
The developer has completed the site improvements per the Planning and Zoning approvals, including a sidewalk portion along a portion of the day Hill Road frontage.

1147
01:51:54,010 --> 01:52:00,170
The layout of the public sidewalk was constructed on private property.

1148
01:52:00,770 --> 01:52:05,410
The reason it was placed on private property was to avoid wetlands and

1149
01:52:05,410 --> 01:52:09,470
grating issues and a sidewalk easement is thus required.

1150
01:52:09,930 --> 01:52:13,870
The public sidewalk shall be maintained and kept in repair by the town.

1151
01:52:14,190 --> 01:52:18,230
Snow and ice removal will remain the responsibility of the property owner.

1152
01:52:18,690 --> 01:52:22,710
No financial impact other than long-term maintenance is anticipated.

1153
01:52:24,010 --> 01:52:25,950
I'm happy to answer any questions that I can.

1154
01:52:26,490 --> 01:52:27,550
Thank you so much, Suzanne.

1155
01:52:28,270 --> 01:52:28,970
Councillor Colkey.

1156
01:52:29,950 --> 01:52:31,110
If we said no,

1157
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,340
what happens?

1158
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,900
We'd have to close the sidewalk to the public.

1159
01:52:39,220 --> 01:52:39,480
Thank you.

1160
01:52:42,540 --> 01:52:42,840
All right.

1161
01:52:44,970 --> 01:52:46,070
Council is anything else?

1162
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:51,760
All right, so if we're ready for the vote, all in favor?

1163
01:52:52,260 --> 01:52:52,700
Hi, hi.

1164
01:52:53,180 --> 01:52:54,500
Any opposition abstentions?

1165
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:55,080
Hearing none.

1166
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:57,240
And that passes 9-0-0.

1167
01:52:57,520 --> 01:52:57,900
Thank you.

1168
01:52:58,760 --> 01:52:59,460
Thank you, Suzanne.

1169
01:53:00,940 --> 01:53:02,840
Moving to item 12b,

1170
01:53:05,300 --> 01:53:06,360
Mr. Susa.

1171
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:07,900
We'd like a motion.

1172
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:09,780
Oh, I did skip the motion, so sorry.

1173
01:53:11,340 --> 01:53:16,960
Deputy Mayor, I move that the job description for the position of fire department administrator be approved as presented.

1174
01:53:17,380 --> 01:53:17,560
Second.

1175
01:53:18,300 --> 01:53:20,940
Thank you. It's been moved and seconded, Mr. Susa.

1176
01:53:21,660 --> 01:53:28,380
Great. Thank you Madam Mayor. I'm going to invite up our Human Resource Managers, Sophia Castellanis,

1177
01:53:28,380 --> 01:53:45,400
I didn't know if Amelia was going to join you, so Sophia will provide an overview of this item which is a result of a pending retirement of a long time in pulling an incumbent of this position, Sophia.

1178
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:47,220
Yes, well, good evening.

1179
01:53:47,220 --> 01:53:53,120
So before you today is an updated job description for the Fire Department and Administrator position.

1180
01:53:53,660 --> 01:53:58,020
As part of our standard practice, whenever a position becomes vacant, staff review the

1181
01:53:58,020 --> 01:54:02,460
job description to ensure it accurately reflects the current responsibilities and qualifications

1182
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:04,020
required by the town.

1183
01:54:04,580 --> 01:54:08,660
With the upcoming retirement of the current Fire Department Administrator, the position

1184
01:54:08,660 --> 01:54:14,200
was reviewed collaboratively by the Department Director, the incumbent, and human resources.

1185
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:19,280
The review identified several updates that better reflect the evolving needs of the department.

1186
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:24,580
One of the changes is the addition of responsibility for recruiting volunteer firefighters, including

1187
01:54:24,580 --> 01:54:29,920
marketing and public relations that support volunteer recruitment and community engagement.

1188
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:35,840
In addition, terminology and job duties have been updated to reflect operational changes that

1189
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:36,780
have occurred over time.

1190
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:42,500
The general purpose, essential duties and responsibilities in minimum qualification sections

1191
01:54:42,500 --> 01:54:47,080
have also been revised to ensure they accurately represent the expectations of the position.

1192
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:52,180
Finally, a competency section has been added to align the job description with the town's

1193
01:54:52,180 --> 01:54:53,460
current job description format.

1194
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:58,000
These updates clarify the role without changing its overall scope or classification.

1195
01:54:58,380 --> 01:54:59,960
The position will remain at-

1196
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:06,140
Grade 7. Thank you, and I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you. Counselors, questions?

1197
01:55:10,830 --> 01:55:32,650
Council elevator. Yeah, and I've said this in the past and I'll continue to say it that one of the nice things, when I see one of these things, these descriptions, the first thing I look at is minimum qualifications because there's an over desire by some that everyone has a patchless degree.

1198
01:55:32,650 --> 01:55:44,130
But I think in many cases, as some of us who are older understand experience can be far more valuable than what you're going to get from a book.

1199
01:55:45,410 --> 01:55:54,390
And in this case, I am pleased to see that you do have a section for any equivalent combination of training and experience, and I appreciate that.

1200
01:55:54,610 --> 01:55:55,190
So thank you.

1201
01:55:55,550 --> 01:55:56,070
Great.

1202
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:56,230
All right.

1203
01:55:56,730 --> 01:55:57,170
I agree.

1204
01:55:57,330 --> 01:55:57,810
Thank you, ma'am.

1205
01:55:58,270 --> 01:55:58,630
Thank you.

1206
01:55:59,050 --> 01:56:00,150
Anything else comes loose?

1207
01:56:01,610 --> 01:56:02,250
All right.

1208
01:56:02,850 --> 01:56:03,770
We're ready for the vote.

1209
01:56:03,850 --> 01:56:04,290
All in favor?

1210
01:56:04,730 --> 01:56:04,930
Aye.

1211
01:56:05,730 --> 01:56:06,030
All right.

1212
01:56:06,030 --> 01:56:06,130
All right.

1213
01:56:06,250 --> 01:56:07,670
Here in opposition of abstentions.

1214
01:56:07,670 --> 01:56:09,030
That passes 9-0-0.

1215
01:56:09,450 --> 01:56:09,830
Thank you.

1216
01:56:12,940 --> 01:56:14,440
Moving to item 12c.

1217
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:26,020
All right.

1218
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:26,640
Is there a motion?

1219
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:27,160
Yes.

1220
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:33,140
I move to approve the collective bargaining agreement between the town of Windsor and UPSU.

1221
01:56:33,140 --> 01:56:40,360
2, local 424 unit 10 from period of July 1, 2026 through July 30, 2029.

1222
01:56:41,020 --> 01:56:41,700
Second.

1223
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:45,220
Thank you, Councillor Naimist or Susa?

1224
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:46,540
Thank you very much.

1225
01:56:46,700 --> 01:56:55,280
I'm going to invite up Amelia Bliss, our Director of Human Resources, and Chief Melanton will

1226
01:56:55,280 --> 01:57:03,900
will join Amelia. This has been reviewed in executive session with the council and now

1227
01:57:03,900 --> 01:57:11,620
as Amelia and the chief will explain, there is an agreement reached and ratified by the

1228
01:57:11,620 --> 01:57:19,440
union and now it is the council's consideration and request to ratify it as well.

1229
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:29,300
Good evening, the collective bargaining contract with the public safety dispatchers expired on June 30th of 2026.

1230
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:43,040
Negotiations were mainly centered around wages, vacation leave, health benefits, and then contract language around overtime, both voluntary and order in and approval of leave time requests.

1231
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:55,420
The agreement has was reached and ratified by the bargaining unit and it extends from July 1 of 26 through June 30th of 2029.

1232
01:57:56,300 --> 01:58:12,740
Specific negotiated changes include voluntary oversight time assignments and under this contract these assignments would be ordered offered in order beginning with the dispatcher with the least amount of overtime work during that bid cycle.

1233
01:58:12,740 --> 01:58:21,280
This allows the opportunity for over time to be shared more equitably than the prior language which had it being offered by seniority.

1234
01:58:22,740 --> 01:58:32,400
It also eliminates the ability for more senior dispatchers to bump less senior dispatchers after the over time shift is accepted.

1235
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:42,100
For the order in over time, the new language creates a formal over time rotation system that distributes mandatory over time

1236
01:58:42,100 --> 01:58:44,160
on a more fair and equitable basis.

1237
01:58:44,540 --> 01:58:47,280
If over time is not taken voluntarily,

1238
01:58:47,580 --> 01:58:53,060
dispatchers are ordered by the least amount of ordered overtime worked during the bid cycle,

1239
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:58,040
rather than the prior language, which was based on the least senior dispatcher.

1240
01:58:59,700 --> 01:59:04,940
For leave time request, the contract creates a more structured leave approval process

1241
01:59:04,940 --> 01:59:08,080
that encourages requests made with advance notice.

1242
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:27,840
It creates advanced notice tiers with certain guarantees and conditions for leave approval and limits the use of ordering over time for vacation coverage when leave is requested less than 28 days in advance and it also provides greater protection for employees once the leave is approved.

1243
01:59:28,780 --> 01:59:39,280
For the vacation accruals, employees hired prior to July 1st of 2015 will be moved to the same vacation accrual schedule as employees hired before that date.

1244
01:59:39,820 --> 01:59:48,860
Under this schedule, employees accrue four weeks of vacation after 10 years of service rather than waiting until 15 years before they get to that accrual level.

1245
01:59:48,860 --> 01:59:58,440
This change allies with the towns are comparable towns externally and it helps support our recruitment and retention efforts.

1246
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:30,460
For holidays, this contract adds the option for employees to choose to bank all of their holidays at the beginning of the fiscal year and use them as vacation days rather than receiving premium pay for working on the holiday. It also aligns with existing bargaining unit language for the in the police contract. The health insurance changes include increases to the employee cost share for the high deductible health plan of half a percent for each year of the

1247
02:00:30,460 --> 02:00:38,100
contract. This makes the employee contribution 17.5% 18 and 18.5% respectively.

1248
02:00:39,260 --> 02:00:46,780
Prescription drug copays for both the PPO plan and the high deductible plan will be increasing by $5 more for

1249
02:00:46,780 --> 02:00:51,140
generic and $10 for brand and non-formulary drugs.

1250
02:00:52,100 --> 02:01:00,260
We also have agreed to prescription formulary changes, including implementing a cost relief

1251
02:01:00,260 --> 02:01:05,800
program for specialty medications and this program reduces the cost for the

1252
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:12,060
employees as well as for the town. And then finally it the contract adds

1253
02:01:12,060 --> 02:01:16,540
optional vision insurance that is currently offered to the Police Bargaining

1254
02:01:16,540 --> 02:01:24,180
Unit and our unaffiliated employees. For the wages we conducted a market salary

1255
02:01:24,180 --> 02:01:32,000
survey of other towns in our geographic area and found that our pay range was below the

1256
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:35,460
50th percentile or the median of the market.

1257
02:01:36,020 --> 02:01:43,540
To address this, a one-time market adjustment of a 2% increase and then a 3% general wage

1258
02:01:43,540 --> 02:01:52,040
increase effective retroactive to July 1 of 26 was agreed to and then for FY 28 and FY 29,

1259
02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:55,180
the wage increases are 3.25% each year.

1260
02:01:56,240 --> 02:02:01,080
The financial impact for FY27 of the market adjustment

1261
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:09,100
and the 3% general wage increase is $64,437 over the FY26 budget.

1262
02:02:09,340 --> 02:02:12,040
And this includes the benefits, the pension,

1263
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:13,080
FICA, and Medicare.

1264
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:21,960
And then for FY28, the 3.25% is 58,000 over the FY27 projected cost.

1265
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:33,680
with benefits and FY29, 3.25% increase is $60,660 over the FY28 projected cost including

1266
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:39,080
benefits. And these costs are the general wage increase plus the step increases that people

1267
02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:46,300
get if they're not yet at the top step. And that summarizes the changes in the contract.

1268
02:02:46,580 --> 02:02:51,140
You have a copy of it with the red line edits and we're happy to answer any questions that you have.

1269
02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:55,320
Thank you so much, Milliam, councillors, councillors.

1270
02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:57,040
Thank you, ma'am.

1271
02:02:57,860 --> 02:02:59,380
How many employees are in this unit?

1272
02:02:59,860 --> 02:03:00,040
Ten?

1273
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:00,600
Ten.

1274
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:01,800
I thought so.

1275
02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:02,240
Thank you.

1276
02:03:04,630 --> 02:03:06,110
Any other questions, councillors?

1277
02:03:07,130 --> 02:03:10,710
And did you say the retroactive will be July 1st?

1278
02:03:12,490 --> 02:03:14,410
For the wages, yes, for the wages.

1279
02:03:15,910 --> 02:03:17,710
This is effective medical.

1280
02:03:18,790 --> 02:03:20,350
No, the medical will be prospective.

1281
02:03:21,870 --> 02:03:22,450
Thank you.

1282
02:03:22,710 --> 02:03:23,110
Thank you, ma'am.

1283
02:03:23,110 --> 02:03:24,230
All right. Thank you.

1284
02:03:26,550 --> 02:03:37,870
Okay. If there are no further questions, I know that we've been waiting for this one to come forward, so thank you for that. All right. All in favor?

1285
02:03:39,510 --> 02:03:46,580
I'm hearing no opposition or abstentions. That passes at 9-0. Item 12 is their emotion.

1286
02:03:46,580 --> 02:03:57,200
I move to authorize the acceptance of a Connecticut state and local cyber security grant in the amount of $38,480 and authorize, I think we skipped one.

1287
02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:58,120
Oh, did I skip one?

1288
02:03:58,280 --> 02:03:58,880
Sorry.

1289
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:00,000
Oh, I'm sorry.

1290
02:04:00,420 --> 02:04:04,250
About $35,000 or sorry.

1291
02:04:04,630 --> 02:04:05,730
And I said $12,000.

1292
02:04:06,090 --> 02:04:07,490
Sorry, $12,000.

1293
02:04:08,290 --> 02:04:16,870
I move to approve the appropriation of $35,000 from the general fund, unassigned fund balance for the implementation of budgeting and capital improvement plan software.

1294
02:04:16,870 --> 02:04:20,170
Second, thank you, Mr. Sisa.

1295
02:04:20,590 --> 02:04:22,530
Thank you very much, Madam Mayor.

1296
02:04:22,910 --> 02:04:31,830
I'm going to invite up Linda Collins, our Assistant Finance Director, to provide an overview of this request.

1297
02:04:33,650 --> 02:04:37,950
Linda will do a much better job of explaining this than I so I'm going to hand it right over to her.

1298
02:04:38,770 --> 02:04:41,470
Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council members.

1299
02:04:41,470 --> 02:04:50,830
town department staff continuously seek ways to gain efficiencies and improvement and improve effectiveness in everything we do.

1300
02:04:51,570 --> 02:04:57,950
Although incremental updates and refinements to the budget and capital improvement plan processes,

1301
02:04:57,950 --> 02:04:59,970
our current proceedings.

1302
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:26,200
Members remain outdated and time consuming on multiple levels. The development, publishing, and managing of these documents relies on a fragmented network of Excel and Word files alongside our core counting software system. This disjointed system demands extensive manual data manipulation and constant human verification.

1303
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:32,780
implementation. Implementing and transitioning to a dedicated budgeting software solution

1304
02:05:32,780 --> 02:05:39,480
will modernize these aspects of our fiscal management. It eliminates redundant data entry,

1305
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:45,800
automates document, compilation, and provides real-time financial reporting throughout the

1306
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:52,680
fiscal year. Most importantly, it shifts staff time from tedious clerical work to value

1307
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:54,220
you added financial analysis.

1308
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:59,140
Following a competitive request for proposal process,

1309
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:05,580
UNIS solutions were selected as having the optimal platform to streamline our existing methods.

1310
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:12,800
This evening we are requesting a one time appropriation of $35,000 from the general fund,

1311
02:06:12,980 --> 02:06:16,800
unassigned fund balance for the implementation of this software.

1312
02:06:17,700 --> 02:06:21,280
While this funding was originally requested in the finance department,

1313
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:26,360
And FY27 proposed budget was eliminated during budget deliberations.

1314
02:06:27,220 --> 02:06:29,560
And I could take any questions you have at this time.

1315
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:32,740
Thank you, Councillors.

1316
02:06:35,050 --> 02:06:35,870
Councillor Coughlin.

1317
02:06:37,770 --> 02:06:42,270
So the total one time is 35,000, you said.

1318
02:06:42,530 --> 02:06:42,730
Correct.

1319
02:06:43,310 --> 02:06:44,330
Just so for the public.

1320
02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:51,970
And there will be no chance of anything needed going forward for any add-ons or anything for the software licensing of any sort.

1321
02:06:52,590 --> 02:06:54,170
that your knowledge at the moment?

1322
02:06:54,910 --> 02:06:57,830
Not at our knowledge at this moment for the implementation.

1323
02:06:58,490 --> 02:06:58,590
Okay.

1324
02:06:58,990 --> 02:07:00,910
But there will be any annual licensing fee.

1325
02:07:01,390 --> 02:07:01,630
Okay.

1326
02:07:01,750 --> 02:07:02,690
That we have in our budget.

1327
02:07:03,250 --> 02:07:03,630
Perfect.

1328
02:07:03,950 --> 02:07:04,610
Thank you so much.

1329
02:07:05,610 --> 02:07:06,330
Thank you, Council.

1330
02:07:06,410 --> 02:07:06,770
No doubt.

1331
02:07:07,030 --> 02:07:07,890
Thank you, Madam.

1332
02:07:08,050 --> 02:07:09,790
Just for clarification, just to make sure.

1333
02:07:10,310 --> 02:07:15,170
So we've got in the budget, the amount of money it's going to cost to operate the system

1334
02:07:15,170 --> 02:07:20,990
on a license fee on a year-over-year basis, but it's the implementation that is the additional

1335
02:07:20,990 --> 02:07:21,430
cost.

1336
02:07:21,430 --> 02:07:23,090
Correct. Thank you.

1337
02:07:25,930 --> 02:07:29,610
Any other questions, councillors? Comments? No, comment.

1338
02:07:31,370 --> 02:07:36,230
Okay. If we're ready for the vote. All right, all in favour?

1339
02:07:36,670 --> 02:07:45,330
Aye. Hearing no opposition or abstentions, and that passes 9-0-0. Item 12-E is their emotion.

1340
02:07:45,690 --> 02:07:52,290
I move to authorize the acceptance of a Connecticut state and local cybersecurity grant in the amount of $38,480

1341
02:07:52,290 --> 02:07:58,510
and authorize the expenditure of $48,100 from special revenue account number 1681.

1342
02:07:59,170 --> 02:07:59,490
Second.

1343
02:07:59,990 --> 02:08:01,050
Thank you, Councillor Naeem.

1344
02:08:02,470 --> 02:08:03,450
Mr. Susa.

1345
02:08:04,370 --> 02:08:06,070
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1346
02:08:06,210 --> 02:08:09,390
I invite Frank Angelillo to provide an overview of this.

1347
02:08:09,390 --> 02:08:18,370
This has been a continued effort on Frank's part to continue to shore up our cyber security systems.

1348
02:08:18,910 --> 02:08:20,690
And so Frank, all you have.

1349
02:08:21,150 --> 02:08:21,450
Thank you.

1350
02:08:21,450 --> 02:08:23,410
It's an ongoing battle.

1351
02:08:24,630 --> 02:08:30,610
The State and Local Cybersecurity Grant is a multi-round federal grant program established

1352
02:08:30,610 --> 02:08:35,810
to address cybersecurity risks and threats facing state and local governments.

1353
02:08:36,770 --> 02:08:42,810
It's administered by and Connecticut by Dean as the Division of Emergency Management and

1354
02:08:42,810 --> 02:08:43,810
Homeland Security.

1355
02:08:43,810 --> 02:09:01,650
The second round is an 80-20% cost share reimbursement grant, meaning that we pay 100% upfront and then we submit for 80% reimbursement.

1356
02:09:01,650 --> 02:09:07,310
Our application, our application named the specific software package,

1357
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:16,030
classing $48,100, which will span three years, that license is a three year license.

1358
02:09:16,690 --> 02:09:29,530
Once purchased, we'll submit for reimbursement in the amount of $38,480 leaving the town share of the purchase at $9,620.

1359
02:09:31,290 --> 02:09:39,850
We respectfully ask the council to authorize acceptance of this grant or if you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer on them.

1360
02:09:40,330 --> 02:09:40,890
Thank you, Frank.

1361
02:09:43,250 --> 02:09:44,050
Just as councilors?

1362
02:09:44,150 --> 02:09:48,090
No question, but to thank you because I know how much hard work you put in, so thank you so much for what you're doing.

1363
02:09:48,210 --> 02:09:50,570
This is very important for the town, so thank you.

1364
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:55,040
I'm going to thank you, Frank.

1365
02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:57,940
Yes, I keep telling you.

1366
02:09:57,940 --> 02:09:59,920
You know, you could be doing something on the side. Great, right?

1367
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:25,020
He might be calling. He doesn't have enough time. But if he rates a grant, he might leave something else. All right. Thank you, Frank. All right. Everybody for the roll on favor? I hear you no opposition or abstentions. That passes 9-0-0. Thank you. All right. Moving to item 12-F. Is there a motion?

1368
02:10:41,140 --> 02:10:41,840
Is there a motion?

1369
02:10:43,940 --> 02:10:44,420
Sure.

1370
02:10:45,380 --> 02:10:50,280
I'll move to approve the reactivation of the police department's automated license plate reader,

1371
02:10:50,500 --> 02:11:01,480
ALPR cameras, and renew the annual contract with FOX safety based on the amended master services agreement as well as the town's amended ALPR policy as presented.

1372
02:11:03,650 --> 02:11:07,880
Second, thank you for Mr. Blackhoff, thank you Mr. Susan.

1373
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:09,540
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1374
02:11:10,160 --> 02:11:27,540
I'm going to invite up our assistant town manager, Scott Colby, as well as chief of police Don Melanson to provide an overview of this item, which most recently was discussed at the Health and Safety Committee in June.

1375
02:11:28,260 --> 02:11:34,280
This has been obviously a topic of significant discussion in the last year.

1376
02:11:34,280 --> 02:12:04,260
We're bringing this back at this time because the town council had instructed us to turn off the cameras back in February, which was done, and that once the state general assembly had made any state law that changed, not changed, excuse me, adopted state law, to bring that back to the council as well as to explore with flocks.

1377
02:12:04,260 --> 02:12:10,180
our vendor, flock safety, any amendments to the agreement that we have with them.

1378
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:15,220
Those two items have been completed, and we, as I mentioned earlier,

1379
02:12:15,460 --> 02:12:19,620
discussed this with the Health and Safety Committee about three weeks ago now.

1380
02:12:20,240 --> 02:12:26,700
And would that, I'd like to ask Scott and the chief to provide a brief overview of some of those changes.

1381
02:12:27,220 --> 02:12:32,340
This has been a tool that the police department has used in the past, that's been an effective tool.

1382
02:12:32,340 --> 02:12:36,640
And so the chief will touch a little bit on how that tool was used.

1383
02:12:38,740 --> 02:12:40,840
So would that Scott, if you want to kick it off?

1384
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:41,680
Thank you.

1385
02:12:42,540 --> 02:12:54,040
So as was mentioned, staff was working with the vendor in regards to looking to update the agreement that we have with them for the contract.

1386
02:12:54,600 --> 02:13:01,000
At the same time we were also waiting for a language from the state that was signed into law on May 4th of this year.

1387
02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:14,040
And so I'm going to go through some of the elements that are within the state law and then also talk about some of the other elements that were included as part of the conversations that staff was having with the vendor as well.

1388
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:23,180
And so the new legislation establishes statewide guard rules that directly address many of the concerns that had been previously raised regarding the ALPR technology.

1389
02:13:23,180 --> 02:13:45,280
Some of the key provisions that are now reflected within Connecticut law and are also now aligned with the policy which include the strict permissible uses and so the ALPR use is limited to legitimate law enforcement and public safety functions including hot list comparisons missing persons stolen vehicles and active criminal investigation supported by reasonable suspicion.

1390
02:13:45,280 --> 02:14:11,000
It also expanded the privacy protections, so both the town policy and the state law prohibit the use of ALPR data for immigration enforcement monitoring First Amendment protected activity, reproductive health care investigations, discriminatory enforcement, or personal use under the state law, ALPR data can only be shared with New York, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island, so any broad sharing of that is prohibited by law.

1391
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:17,580
And we also, as I'll mention a little bit further along the line, we also have it written

1392
02:14:17,580 --> 02:14:23,980
within the master service agreement, the 100-mile radius for sharing that we had in there

1393
02:14:23,980 --> 02:14:24,400
as well.

1394
02:14:25,430 --> 02:14:31,420
The reduced data retention standards, so the state law had reduced that to a 21-day retention

1395
02:14:31,420 --> 02:14:35,820
limit, absent any specific investigative exceptions.

1396
02:14:35,820 --> 02:14:44,820
So this is more restrictive than the town's initial 30-day policy, and will be implemented through administrative adjustment and vendor configuration.

1397
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:54,900
There's also some vendor contract safeguards, so the adopted state law now requires vendor contracts to prohibit data sale, unauthorized third party sharing,

1398
02:14:54,900 --> 02:14:59,980
commingling of data and mandate security standards and Connecticut jurisdiction proof.

1399
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:29,980
These requirements provide statutory safeguards directly addressing concerns previously raised regarding the vendor's access and data governance. It also has an auditing reporting an oversight requirement from the state law, which would require annual reporting supervisory accountability as well as regulatory oversight from CT post, reinforcing and expanding the oversight mechanism that's reflected in the town's AOPR policy.

1400
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:45,700
Along with that, those incorporations of the state law, the town also work with flock to include additional language that's not necessarily addressed within the state law, but had also been raised through the conversations that we've been hearing from the last few months.

1401
02:15:46,660 --> 02:15:59,360
And so one is requiring an annual independent security assessment as well as notification of any security incident, including in the 100 mile radius for sharing.

1402
02:15:59,360 --> 02:16:07,580
requires audit logs and multi-factor authentication for all users to find secure deletion and prohibits

1403
02:16:07,580 --> 02:16:12,020
flexibility to transfer and assign the master service agreement without prior written consent

1404
02:16:12,020 --> 02:16:17,640
of the town. So taking together, the town had worked to put together what you see within

1405
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:29,120
the master service agreement as well as an updated town of Windsor fixed automated license plate

1406
02:16:29,120 --> 02:16:35,080
reader data usage and security policy at the last health and safety committee meeting.

1407
02:16:35,080 --> 02:16:42,220
There was a conversation to look to add a paragraph within there, which really is talking

1408
02:16:42,220 --> 02:16:45,200
to the system expansion and technology modifications.

1409
02:16:45,920 --> 02:16:53,620
And so no significant changes, alterations, features, upgrades or downgrades would be made

1410
02:16:53,620 --> 02:16:57,120
to the system without the approval of the town council.

1411
02:16:58,260 --> 02:17:14,340
And so those kind of just walk through what's being incorporated into the new master service agreement from the state law, from the conversations that staff has had, and I will turn this over to the chief to talk a little bit about the use of the system.

1412
02:17:14,340 --> 02:17:20,220
Sure, so you've heard me speak many times before about how our officers use

1413
02:17:20,220 --> 02:17:27,240
flock camera and the success they've had in being able to obtain leads on many

1414
02:17:27,240 --> 02:17:32,280
cases where they may not have includes larceny thefts incidents,

1415
02:17:33,020 --> 02:17:38,120
hit and run motor vehicle accidents, so evading accidents, welfare checks,

1416
02:17:38,120 --> 02:17:44,700
So people that are missing endangered motor vehicle thefts, stolen motor vehicles,

1417
02:17:45,500 --> 02:17:49,260
thefts from vehicles, along with weapons offenses.

1418
02:17:49,560 --> 02:17:55,900
So guns incidents that have involved guns, displays, threats, shots fired incidents in town.

1419
02:17:57,100 --> 02:18:00,720
Probably on a weekly basis, the officers ask me, when are we turning them back on?

1420
02:18:01,020 --> 02:18:07,020
Because it has been such a valuable tool, they are still able to search other areas,

1421
02:18:07,020 --> 02:18:14,240
not in Windsor because our cameras are off and they do continue to do that I believe during a three

1422
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:20,480
month period leading up from when the cameras were shut off there was over 450 searches by our officers

1423
02:18:21,380 --> 02:18:27,040
for about 70 different cases and then another probably another 50 cases where officers

1424
02:18:28,220 --> 02:18:36,000
documented that flock was unavailable to be able to search for their cases. It is a very useful tool

1425
02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:41,880
And I'll answer any questions you may have on its use or what it provides to the Windsor.

1426
02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:48,400
Thank you, Chief and thank you, Mr. Colby, for the information.

1427
02:18:51,300 --> 02:18:53,560
Counselors, questions, I'm going to start with.

1428
02:18:53,800 --> 02:18:55,340
Councillor Armstrong, questions or comments?

1429
02:18:57,060 --> 02:18:58,160
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1430
02:18:58,780 --> 02:19:05,000
As has been said, health and safety has had several meetings and open forums, which included

1431
02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:11,120
With a lot of the information that was compiled as discussed this evening, the purpose, the guiding

1432
02:19:11,120 --> 02:19:16,760
principles, transparency, public awareness, protection and data responsibilities and limitations

1433
02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:18,700
on the data that's being shared.

1434
02:19:19,640 --> 02:19:26,220
And the purpose was that hearing for this committee was to bring back the information to this full

1435
02:19:26,220 --> 02:19:34,160
committee and make them aware of what the questions were, suggestions were and for the entire community.

1436
02:19:34,160 --> 02:19:39,960
It's more so that the information was definitely about the venue flock.

1437
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:47,660
That is the issue, and this has been a very meaningful issue, and doing so is very important

1438
02:19:47,660 --> 02:19:56,880
that everyone be allowed to address their issues with respect and consideration to disagree.

1439
02:19:58,160 --> 02:19:59,280
We have been

1440
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:28,560
Considering this for a very long time, we've had so many meetings about it. We've talked with one another. And of course, this full council always discuss and listen and make decisions, not only for one particular group but this entire community. About the LPR, but having a different, difficult referendum, we've already been out of that. And we serve without a doubt, not a few of individuals.

1441
02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:35,960
I think consideration of research and listening and holding so many meetings and a very difficult

1442
02:20:35,960 --> 02:20:45,080
decision for me and true to the safety of our community, we continue to keep the LPR off.

1443
02:20:46,160 --> 02:20:53,340
But at some point I would ask that we look into another venue because we are still concerned

1444
02:20:53,340 --> 02:20:59,940
about the residents still concerned about the activity of the police and perhaps make that

1445
02:20:59,940 --> 02:21:06,480
available to address the concerns that are grave to all of us and perhaps the factor to look

1446
02:21:06,480 --> 02:21:12,080
into this will always be a concern. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Thank you, Councilor Armstrong.

1447
02:21:13,540 --> 02:21:19,660
Councillors, questions, comments? And thank you, Madam Health and Safety Chair, for all your work.

1448
02:21:23,340 --> 02:21:30,940
So just, I want to just try to, because we've heard a fair amount of misinformation from what I understand in this system.

1449
02:21:32,700 --> 02:21:38,220
What does the camera, and just so we're all clear, these are ubiquitous.

1450
02:21:38,480 --> 02:21:45,700
I've seen in multiple states, multiple locations, multiple towns, they seem to be everywhere.

1451
02:21:45,860 --> 02:21:53,260
And you can identify them there primarily by the solar cell that's attached to them.

1452
02:21:54,380 --> 02:22:00,760
What exactly does the picture, or what sort of a picture is taken of a vehicle?

1453
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:02,380
The front, the back, the side.

1454
02:22:03,560 --> 02:22:04,000
Sure.

1455
02:22:04,180 --> 02:22:08,780
So it takes a picture of the rear of the vehicle, and you will also get a side profile.

1456
02:22:09,220 --> 02:22:15,340
So from the rear, so that you could see the side of the vehicle and the plate at the same

1457
02:22:15,340 --> 02:22:15,640
time.

1458
02:22:15,740 --> 02:22:20,080
Usually it takes two or three pictures, but it's not until after the vehicle has passed

1459
02:22:20,080 --> 02:22:28,100
So you can't tell occupants or anything along those lines, there's nothing from the front that would actually show the front of the vehicle.

1460
02:22:28,540 --> 02:22:30,460
So you cannot identify the driver.

1461
02:22:30,880 --> 02:22:31,000
Correct.

1462
02:22:31,680 --> 02:22:35,900
You cannot identify their race, their sex, or any of the demographic of the driver.

1463
02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:36,500
Correct.

1464
02:22:36,940 --> 02:22:37,200
Okay.

1465
02:22:37,900 --> 02:22:45,000
The purpose of the picture is to identify the type of vehicle I believe and license plate.

1466
02:22:45,940 --> 02:22:46,120
Correct.

1467
02:22:47,620 --> 02:22:52,940
How does that help us in dealing with crime and Windsor?

1468
02:22:54,400 --> 02:23:03,240
So many times when people call obviously, if it's a serious incident, they're very excited, very emotional, upset.

1469
02:23:03,960 --> 02:23:13,560
Many times their recollection is not great, they're very rarely do we get a full license plate, we may get one or two letters of a license plate.

1470
02:23:13,560 --> 02:23:21,880
We'll usually get a color of a car, maybe a make, rarely a model, unless someone's really a car fix an auto,

1471
02:23:22,060 --> 02:23:23,740
where they know what type of car they're talking about.

1472
02:23:24,660 --> 02:23:33,520
So as the officers are responding to that incident, our dispatchers are looking up if the incident is near one of our cameras,

1473
02:23:33,860 --> 02:23:39,400
they'll look to say, hey, do we have a car fleeing going by one of our cameras, given that time frame.

1474
02:23:39,400 --> 02:23:44,440
And they could put it in, I want to look within the last 20 minutes, I want to look within the last half hour.

1475
02:23:45,660 --> 02:23:50,860
And so that's as the incidents are happening, so they can provide information to the officers as they're responding.

1476
02:23:51,400 --> 02:23:57,100
And then as officers responding, they may actually see the car going by or know that, hey, the car is going in a different direction.

1477
02:23:57,720 --> 02:24:04,100
Other officers may go that way to perhaps try to intercept them as they're fleeing the scene.

1478
02:24:09,300 --> 02:24:17,180
So prior to the cameras being turned off for a period of, let's say, three months, and I'm sure you probably don't have this exactly available.

1479
02:24:17,520 --> 02:24:23,140
How many crimes was this beneficial in resolving in Windsor?

1480
02:24:23,140 --> 02:24:35,380
Prior to, I would say it was, there's data nationally where 20% of all successful cases are

1481
02:24:35,380 --> 02:24:43,340
resulting nationally in arrests are tied into ALPR systems where the ALPR system helps

1482
02:24:43,340 --> 02:24:46,240
the officers identify vehicles and it becomes a key point.

1483
02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:53,780
I would say that number is probably a little bit higher in Windsor where I would say that you know

1484
02:24:53,780 --> 02:24:58,220
Offers use it all the time so it helps develop the lead. I would say it's the only thing that helps

1485
02:24:58,220 --> 02:24:59,960
You know obviously there's many other factors

1486
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:30,940
But it does point them in the right direction and helps them get information much earlier, which prevents the destruction of other evidence because you're losing time as a, as a, as a case is being investigated. Since they were shut off, how many cases do we have that we basically spalled out on? So there's, there are a few that I mentioned at health and safety since we turn them off. And just to kind of go over the seriousness of how,

1487
02:25:31,540 --> 02:25:34,140
some of the impact art, I have four cases here.

1488
02:25:34,720 --> 02:25:38,960
One was in February, which was the day after the day the cameras returned off.

1489
02:25:38,960 --> 02:25:41,900
They were turned off on the morning of February 18th.

1490
02:25:41,900 --> 02:25:45,720
That afternoon, we had two suspects show up on someone's front door,

1491
02:25:46,580 --> 02:25:52,380
displaying glockian guns with extended magazines, with glocks, which makes the glock an automatic weapon.

1492
02:25:53,080 --> 02:25:57,500
They were there to threaten and intimidate the person who was not home at the time.

1493
02:25:58,360 --> 02:26:05,600
We were unable to identify that vehicle, and to this date we haven't been able to develop enough information.

1494
02:26:06,740 --> 02:26:13,040
And we know that had, we had been able to try, use our cameras based on where the sensitive happened.

1495
02:26:13,520 --> 02:26:23,260
It was a high likelihood we would have been able to get a car, especially because we had a time stamp on the video of when they were there at that house, and we would have been able to narrow it down quite rapidly.

1496
02:26:23,260 --> 02:26:29,160
Secondly, a second one in March, we had a shooting incident in town where five shots were fired

1497
02:26:29,160 --> 02:26:31,940
during an altercation between two vehicles in a parking lot.

1498
02:26:32,680 --> 02:26:37,140
One of the bullets that were fired traveled through a front living room window in a adjacent

1499
02:26:37,140 --> 02:26:41,820
house through the living room wall and into the kitchen cabinet above the kitchen sink.

1500
02:26:42,600 --> 02:26:47,240
Both vehicles fled the scene and we were unable to identify either of those vehicles, even

1501
02:26:47,240 --> 02:26:49,280
though we had a specific time frame when that happened.

1502
02:26:50,040 --> 02:27:00,720
another shooting incident in May, where over 27 rounds were fired into a nonoccupied commercial building.

1503
02:27:01,520 --> 02:27:08,480
A vehicle description was delayed because we're in with possibly ID the vehicle for over two days where to use other means to identify that vehicle.

1504
02:27:09,500 --> 02:27:19,260
And then the last one was shortly before the health and safety meeting was a robbery at gunpoint where a young couple were sitting in their vehicle when they were approached by two men.

1505
02:27:19,260 --> 02:27:25,680
who robbed them at gunpoint, they were able to give a description of the vehicle but only two digits of the license plate.

1506
02:27:26,700 --> 02:27:31,880
Officials were unable to utilize the cameras that were in that area to positively ID the vehicle.

1507
02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:34,440
So there's a short sampling.

1508
02:27:36,040 --> 02:27:41,680
Over the course of that time frame, there were another, as I mentioned, about 70 cases.

1509
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:50,020
is, you know, larceny thefts, hit and run, you know, welfare checks, weapons, some of the weapons

1510
02:27:50,020 --> 02:27:52,860
ones I talk about here, motor vehicle thefts, et cetera.

1511
02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:57,560
So those are the ones that we're not, we weren't able to use our cameras to search,

1512
02:27:57,700 --> 02:28:03,460
but officers did use the system to search cameras in neighboring towns to potentially find leads.

1513
02:28:03,960 --> 02:28:09,020
So interesting, you mentioned welfare checks, would you please explain how the cameras are

1514
02:28:09,020 --> 02:28:10,840
beneficial in the case of a welfare check?

1515
02:28:10,840 --> 02:28:16,980
Sure, so many times we'll have elderly people that will not report home.

1516
02:28:17,320 --> 02:28:21,500
Someone will call, say he where they are, do you know where they people are, all they have is a vehicle description.

1517
02:28:22,160 --> 02:28:27,880
We can actually obtain a plate, and we've tracked people down out of state.

1518
02:28:28,420 --> 02:28:36,140
I know Gramby had one where a mother just recently, and they utilized, I believe, Simsburg, because Gramby didn't have the cameras.

1519
02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:51,960
But they had a vehicle description where a person took their children and they believe the person was suicidal and they were able to track that person and they were able to track them all the way down to Georgia where they were able to rescue the kids and make sure the person got the help they needed.

1520
02:28:52,540 --> 02:28:54,440
So many times it's mental health.

1521
02:28:54,660 --> 02:28:56,160
It could be suicidal people.

1522
02:28:56,420 --> 02:28:59,440
It could be elderly people that that wander away and things along those lines.

1523
02:28:59,440 --> 02:29:04,900
So without the cameras there's a possibility that that may have ended very poorly.

1524
02:29:05,380 --> 02:29:05,780
Correct.

1525
02:29:12,300 --> 02:29:14,200
I'll turn it back to you at the moment.

1526
02:29:14,420 --> 02:29:14,980
Thank you, ma'am.

1527
02:29:15,180 --> 02:29:20,920
I was going to pick up the, um, okay, um, councillors.

1528
02:29:21,440 --> 02:29:22,020
I have a room.

1529
02:29:23,060 --> 02:29:23,560
Go ahead.

1530
02:29:23,900 --> 02:29:24,080
I'm sorry.

1531
02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:24,700
No, you can go first.

1532
02:29:24,880 --> 02:29:25,320
No, that's fine.

1533
02:29:25,400 --> 02:29:25,920
You can go ahead.

1534
02:29:26,300 --> 02:29:26,940
Um, okay.

1535
02:29:27,620 --> 02:29:29,020
That's a pretty short comment.

1536
02:29:29,020 --> 02:29:35,340
I don't know how long these cameras were in place before they were turned off.

1537
02:29:35,860 --> 02:29:45,300
I believe we first installed the first set in 2021, 2022, when we had the fixed cameras.

1538
02:29:45,620 --> 02:29:47,240
The first fixed cameras in 22.

1539
02:29:47,620 --> 02:29:50,560
I believe the mobile LPR units were in 2019.

1540
02:29:50,940 --> 02:29:52,040
Yeah, that's the thing.

1541
02:29:52,100 --> 02:29:53,660
So when we turned them off in 2023?

1542
02:29:54,680 --> 02:29:55,020
No.

1543
02:29:55,440 --> 02:29:58,020
We just turned them off in February.

1544
02:29:58,020 --> 02:29:59,880
Yeah, so

1545
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,980
During that period, do we have more criminals or more cases, or cases prosecuted or not prosecuted, collected, as opposed to after we turned them off? I would say our sole ability was as decreased without having the cameras there. We haven't run specific numbers, but officers are not able to obtain leads. So many cases go cold.

1546
02:30:30,540 --> 02:30:32,560
without being able to use the system.

1547
02:30:33,100 --> 02:30:33,320
Okay.

1548
02:30:33,980 --> 02:30:37,100
And in your opinion, how do your officers feel about this?

1549
02:30:37,680 --> 02:30:38,960
Having them turn back on.

1550
02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:43,700
I think every officer would say that we need to turn the cameras back on.

1551
02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:46,860
Okay. It would be beneficial for the law enforcement within the town of Windsor.

1552
02:30:47,180 --> 02:30:47,320
Yes.

1553
02:30:48,180 --> 02:30:52,860
You would do something with perhaps you could do anything with like, you know, like the,

1554
02:30:54,960 --> 02:30:57,700
the motorcycle gangs going to the town of Windsor.

1555
02:30:57,700 --> 02:31:02,040
Would that be a consequence of helping them turn them back on?

1556
02:31:02,780 --> 02:31:10,140
That would help, especially if you have many that are violating laws that would be able to identify them.

1557
02:31:10,660 --> 02:31:15,140
And it wouldn't help with stopping them, obviously, in that crown.

1558
02:31:16,780 --> 02:31:23,060
But it would be if you had some that started to do damage, then it would become a very valuable tool.

1559
02:31:23,060 --> 02:31:28,860
Well, if you're able to identify one of them, you can do something about him, all his friends will know about it.

1560
02:31:29,080 --> 02:31:29,740
Right, right.

1561
02:31:29,960 --> 02:31:30,700
You're just going to wear them out.

1562
02:31:31,060 --> 02:31:36,460
And one of the reasons, when we look at it and we don't use flock for a mode of just simple

1563
02:31:36,460 --> 02:31:39,160
motor vehicle fences, we use them for the criminal motor vehicle fences.

1564
02:31:39,640 --> 02:31:42,780
So it wouldn't be used for someone who was speeding or things along those lines.

1565
02:31:43,260 --> 02:31:49,640
Only if they, it would be used for potential DUI evading accidents, motor vehicle

1566
02:31:49,640 --> 02:31:54,920
All offenses that carry a criminal charge in a jail time with it, not just an infraction

1567
02:31:54,920 --> 02:31:55,240
type.

1568
02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:55,840
Okay.

1569
02:31:56,060 --> 02:31:56,840
And one last question.

1570
02:31:57,360 --> 02:32:03,040
Since we've had them turned off, or actually since we've been turned on, has there

1571
02:32:03,040 --> 02:32:05,760
any been any kind of use

1572
02:32:08,450 --> 02:32:12,530
of terrorist action, but any kind of impropriety by the federal

1573
02:32:12,530 --> 02:32:15,510
government in town with the good use of the cameras?

1574
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:16,110
No.

1575
02:32:16,110 --> 02:32:34,030
And we haven't shared with the federal government, so since they, you know, we have not shared and now the system is set up where it's hard coded that they cannot share it and they cannot be used for immigration, cannot be used for reproductive care, things all those on.

1576
02:32:34,150 --> 02:32:41,330
Chief, if you could just expound on that a little bit prior to those changes that were made, there were searches on our site.

1577
02:32:41,330 --> 02:32:43,950
So there were searches on the meetings.

1578
02:32:44,550 --> 02:32:50,650
So there were prior to, I would say, 2000, mid-2025,

1579
02:32:53,190 --> 02:32:56,310
our system was set up where in order to

1580
02:32:56,310 --> 02:33:02,150
give our officers the ability to search nationwide, there was a tool called Enable Nationwide Lookup.

1581
02:33:02,530 --> 02:33:08,110
What we were unfamiliar with by enabling that tool for our officers to search nationwide,

1582
02:33:08,110 --> 02:33:15,690
that also enabled other agencies throughout the country who also enabled that to search our data.

1583
02:33:15,930 --> 02:33:16,790
We weren't aware of that.

1584
02:33:17,290 --> 02:33:22,050
And there were many agencies that used it, not federal agencies, but

1585
02:33:22,050 --> 02:33:30,390
other law enforcement agencies that were using it, whether there were officers maybe assigned to a task force that used it improperly.

1586
02:33:30,690 --> 02:33:35,510
And used it, there were searches for ICE or immigration on those lines.

1587
02:33:35,510 --> 02:33:50,150
We don't know what the rationale behind that was, what type of case it was, and there was one case in Texas where they stated the officer wrote, you know, check welfare, female had an abortion.

1588
02:33:50,610 --> 02:33:59,630
So when you read the story behind it, that person, they were called with a family called who was concerned for her welfare, and they reported that.

1589
02:33:59,630 --> 02:34:03,670
So it says more, it wasn't that they were looking because she had an abortion.

1590
02:34:03,890 --> 02:34:06,250
We're trying to find her to arrest her for their abortion.

1591
02:34:06,450 --> 02:34:08,270
We're trying to find her because her family called.

1592
02:34:08,330 --> 02:34:10,710
They're worried about her health and safety, so.

1593
02:34:10,830 --> 02:34:14,810
Okay, so just to run my thoughts to the end here.

1594
02:34:18,290 --> 02:34:21,290
Because Peter was talking about that, that was

1595
02:34:21,290 --> 02:34:25,530
I'm illiterated by further training with your officers.

1596
02:34:26,310 --> 02:34:27,130
And if,

1597
02:34:29,440 --> 02:34:35,340
just like I apologize, customer, we disable that function.

1598
02:34:35,980 --> 02:34:36,500
Okay, correct.

1599
02:34:36,860 --> 02:34:40,880
So now is no longer the option, the officers no longer have that ability.

1600
02:34:41,340 --> 02:34:43,240
And then we, so we remove that function.

1601
02:34:43,700 --> 02:34:47,260
And then also there's many other safeguards put in place.

1602
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:53,100
So there's a two factor authentication where now every officer has to use their

1603
02:34:53,100 --> 02:34:57,800
phone to authenticate their login. They'll get a text message so you have

1604
02:34:57,800 --> 02:34:59,820
multi-factor authentication. There's also

1605
02:35:00,050 --> 02:35:28,970
So a hard-coded disclosure that the officer has to acknowledge that as you log into the system, it'll actually pop up, saying that you agree that you will not be using this system for immigration use, health care reproduction, and then you must follow the laws of any state that has those in place. So it includes Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, Wisconsin. There's many other states that have this as well. And so those states are actually listed.

1606
02:35:29,450 --> 02:35:34,650
So the officers have to acknowledge that every time they log into the system that they're going to be obeying by those laws.

1607
02:35:35,030 --> 02:35:41,210
And then we also hard coded it so that no one outside of a hundred miles can get access.

1608
02:35:41,690 --> 02:35:47,710
And even those within a hundred miles, if they're not a Connecticut agency, it's a one on one approval.

1609
02:35:47,910 --> 02:35:49,050
They have to send us a request.

1610
02:35:49,550 --> 02:35:52,790
We have to individually look okay, what are you going to do this?

1611
02:35:52,850 --> 02:35:58,770
We'll send them our policy, make sure they understand what our towns rules are, what the state law is.

1612
02:35:58,770 --> 02:36:03,490
And then if they agree to follow that, then we will allow them to tease our cameras.

1613
02:36:04,310 --> 02:36:10,750
So all those safeguards in place are in your estimate that any chance of this, I'm not saying any chance.

1614
02:36:11,270 --> 02:36:16,750
That the safeguards are sufficient to prevent any kind of lawyer form as appropriate action by the federal government.

1615
02:36:17,330 --> 02:36:19,450
Yes, I think they're okay.

1616
02:36:20,390 --> 02:36:21,510
We'll be back to you, Mary.

1617
02:36:21,950 --> 02:36:22,970
Thank you, considerate.

1618
02:36:23,090 --> 02:36:26,170
I met one question, but I had to step in here.

1619
02:36:26,170 --> 02:36:30,350
So I do want to say, I appreciate you sharing all this information.

1620
02:36:30,590 --> 02:36:42,230
You've shared it before and I really appreciate everything you've done to safeguard this as much as possible and lock it down between the contract that you've rewritten, the kind of safeguard you put in place with ours.

1621
02:36:42,530 --> 02:36:54,730
I think the concern that I heard from people is that it's really not about the police department and it's really not about not trusting the police or not wanting to even support the police.

1622
02:36:54,730 --> 02:36:57,090
but it's the data collection without consent.

1623
02:36:57,950 --> 02:36:59,610
And I think that is the biggest concern

1624
02:36:59,610 --> 02:37:02,390
and the control of the data by a private company

1625
02:37:02,390 --> 02:37:04,050
of which people do not trust.

1626
02:37:04,350 --> 02:37:05,510
So I think that's the balance

1627
02:37:05,510 --> 02:37:07,510
of the thing that people are trying to weigh.

1628
02:37:08,010 --> 02:37:10,810
So I know that's not helpful to law enforcement

1629
02:37:10,810 --> 02:37:12,410
but I think that is the concern,

1630
02:37:12,750 --> 02:37:14,510
the critical concern for,

1631
02:37:14,850 --> 02:37:16,490
so I don't think it's anything to do that.

1632
02:37:16,870 --> 02:37:17,810
I do want to say though,

1633
02:37:18,090 --> 02:37:20,050
so my understanding of the flock system

1634
02:37:20,050 --> 02:37:21,510
just to be very clear,

1635
02:37:22,450 --> 02:37:23,750
is that it takes a picture of the back

1636
02:37:23,750 --> 02:37:28,590
of the license plate in the side of the car. But still, I don't believe that that picture

1637
02:37:28,590 --> 02:37:32,830
is then automatically fed into the system. I think it's typed in from a human being.

1638
02:37:32,990 --> 02:37:39,650
Is that correct? So the cameras capture the picture and it captures the license plate.

1639
02:37:39,650 --> 02:37:44,890
But then the image, the license plate image, is actually transcribed by a human being into

1640
02:37:44,890 --> 02:37:47,110
the system. Is that a system? Is that correct?

1641
02:37:47,370 --> 02:37:53,150
No, I believe the computer camera reads it correctly sometimes.

1642
02:37:53,150 --> 02:37:53,890
Right, right.

1643
02:37:54,210 --> 02:37:59,370
Because I think there was, I think from a couple reputable sites and I'd have to look them

1644
02:37:59,370 --> 02:38:05,470
off exactly, there's at least eight to ten instances that I saw in different states

1645
02:38:05,470 --> 02:38:12,210
where the camera read a number wrong on a license plate, and that those people were ultimately

1646
02:38:12,210 --> 02:38:18,690
stopped, erroneously stopped, and couple were put in prison for, in jail, not prison,

1647
02:38:19,030 --> 02:38:22,010
for a period of time until they straightened that out.

1648
02:38:22,010 --> 02:38:34,770
So there is the possibility of the camera reading, I'm asking, there is the possibility of the camera reading a mistake being made that the camera would read a license plate incorrectly and transcribe that into the system.

1649
02:38:35,370 --> 02:38:49,950
So that is a possibility in our state law, the post-C policy and our policy clearly states that an LPR hit alone is not reasonable suspicion to stop a vehicle.

1650
02:38:49,950 --> 02:39:00,110
So the officer has to validate and verify that the plate you're looking for, the car you're stopping, is valid, and we do the same thing.

1651
02:39:00,470 --> 02:39:01,110
So what does that mean?

1652
02:39:01,310 --> 02:39:05,330
So let's say you have my plate, 87, 653, right?

1653
02:39:05,650 --> 02:39:11,070
And the three is wrong, but it's got, it says that that's the, that's what you have in the LPR read.

1654
02:39:11,070 --> 02:39:28,990
So one, it's, if the camera reads the plate wrong, okay, so unless that plate is identified as an alert for someone that may be, you know, a stolen car or a wanted person or an amber alert, that it's just going to read it, nothing will happen.

1655
02:39:29,570 --> 02:39:34,730
Right, there's no, there's nothing to alert the officer that that car is of suspicion for any reason.

1656
02:39:34,730 --> 02:39:41,650
Okay. So my understanding of those instances was that the car was similar in making model.

1657
02:39:41,970 --> 02:39:48,970
So that would be enough. Similar making model, traveling down 91 with this incorrect plate.

1658
02:39:49,330 --> 02:39:51,950
That would be a stop, right? Am I not correct?

1659
02:39:52,210 --> 02:39:59,890
It will capture the plate. The officer may get information, but then he has to do more legwork, so it's not just not enough.

1660
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:05,960
We have to stop that vehicle, because you have to look through and say, you know, you need to identify

1661
02:40:05,960 --> 02:40:12,160
that the license plate leader alone does not develop reasonable and articulous

1662
02:40:12,160 --> 02:40:17,260
suspicion to stop a vehicle, all right? So what, because there's, there could be a thousand

1663
02:40:17,260 --> 02:40:23,060
blue Honda Accords driving down the road. The officer needs to look at the plate number

1664
02:40:23,660 --> 02:40:26,380
That's where the advantage is better than the other states.

1665
02:40:26,440 --> 02:40:27,300
Right, and it's good to know.

1666
02:40:27,580 --> 02:40:33,080
Yes, so that's actually hard coded into what an officer needs to do before they actually stop a vehicle.

1667
02:40:33,380 --> 02:40:33,640
Excellent.

1668
02:40:34,600 --> 02:40:39,620
So, yeah, so I do want to say, though, I don't think it's really about the not support for the police.

1669
02:40:39,800 --> 02:40:45,120
I think for the, for many of the people who spoke tonight, it's really about the data collection without consent.

1670
02:40:45,560 --> 02:40:52,640
And the keeping of that data by a private company, of which even though there's a contract, they feel like there's no control over that.

1671
02:40:52,640 --> 02:40:59,500
that data, I know ability to track and manage that data, so I just want to say that that's

1672
02:40:59,500 --> 02:41:01,700
my understanding of the concern of the community.

1673
02:41:02,820 --> 02:41:10,240
And then I just want to say for me, I think that I'd be happy to also say that, you know,

1674
02:41:10,420 --> 02:41:15,480
if we do end up taking the flood cameras down, that I think a consideration might be that

1675
02:41:15,480 --> 02:41:19,620
we consider adding more police officers, that's the other alternative to that.

1676
02:41:20,140 --> 02:41:29,740
And that we think about taking the, I mean, I'm in support of taking the cameras down, but also adding police officers to the force.

1677
02:41:30,300 --> 02:41:33,620
So thank you, thank you WMU, come tonight.

1678
02:41:33,920 --> 02:41:37,600
Thank you so much, I just want to go off of some of what Councillor Cleese was saying.

1679
02:41:38,120 --> 02:41:44,700
I'm a big fan of technology, you have more devices in my own house than I should probably admit to having.

1680
02:41:44,700 --> 02:41:47,080
And I see how it can help.

1681
02:41:47,620 --> 02:41:53,040
And I think in this situation, and I see this day-to-day in my professional career, too.

1682
02:41:53,220 --> 02:41:59,780
But if the public can't trust the people and the companies behind the technology, that causes a lot of the challenges.

1683
02:41:59,980 --> 02:42:05,220
And I think that's a lot of what we're hearing, that it's not necessarily about the technology, but

1684
02:42:05,220 --> 02:42:07,420
it's about who's really behind it.

1685
02:42:07,520 --> 02:42:10,460
I mean, there's people on all ends of the spectrum, but

1686
02:42:10,460 --> 02:42:15,180
So a majority of the communications that we've heard, and after doing additional digging

1687
02:42:15,180 --> 02:42:20,960
into kind of the types of companies that flock, is contracting with not just police departments

1688
02:42:20,960 --> 02:42:25,500
where they're selling their technology, but other types of institutions where they are

1689
02:42:25,500 --> 02:42:32,000
sharing data, even if it's scrubbed and aggregated what that's been used for makes me very uneasy.

1690
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:38,700
I think there are other systems and other approaches that have been taken with law enforcement

1691
02:42:38,700 --> 02:42:39,360
technology.

1692
02:42:39,360 --> 02:42:42,940
We've seen it in the state with our mobile LPRs.

1693
02:42:42,960 --> 02:42:44,120
I believe that state controlled.

1694
02:42:44,820 --> 02:42:47,320
We've seen it with a couple of other things

1695
02:42:47,320 --> 02:42:50,480
like the red light cameras, the speed cameras.

1696
02:42:51,700 --> 02:42:54,820
And so that puts a little bit more control in place

1697
02:42:54,820 --> 02:42:57,900
of who has access, what they're doing with that data,

1698
02:42:58,060 --> 02:42:59,040
what it's being used for.

1699
02:42:59,620 --> 02:43:01,900
And unfortunately, FLOG has spent many years

1700
02:43:02,600 --> 02:43:05,140
building above reputation that folks cannot trust.

1701
02:43:05,140 --> 02:43:19,520
So, for those reasons, you know, I still have the concerns of their ability and long-term stewardship of the data and I cannot continue to support flock to do this work.

1702
02:43:20,220 --> 02:43:25,140
But again, to Councillor Clay's point, I don't think this is about our police department or the technology.

1703
02:43:25,440 --> 02:43:32,820
I love technology. I'm here for all the things, but knowing how data can be used and manipulated, it's become a real concern day-to-day.

1704
02:43:32,820 --> 02:43:33,220
Okay, so.

1705
02:43:34,440 --> 02:43:35,080
Thank you.

1706
02:43:36,540 --> 02:43:37,520
Anything else, Councillor?

1707
02:43:38,600 --> 02:43:39,340
Councillor Pelkey.

1708
02:43:40,640 --> 02:43:44,520
Chief, I wanted to ask you, you had talked about the 100 mile radius, but you also said,

1709
02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:48,140
and just just for clarification, but I want to make sure they have you right.

1710
02:43:48,580 --> 02:43:53,040
100 mile radius, but we can New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, because they're in neighboring states.

1711
02:43:55,120 --> 02:43:57,620
So, travel down 84, you end up hitting Newberg.

1712
02:43:58,200 --> 02:44:00,380
It's within 100 miles, at least I think it is.

1713
02:44:02,860 --> 02:44:09,020
So they, because they're in New York, would need a one-on-one approval and agreement to

1714
02:44:09,020 --> 02:44:14,640
follow Connecticut's state laws, our internal local policies, et cetera, and we could grant

1715
02:44:14,640 --> 02:44:18,060
them access if we had all those things in place.

1716
02:44:18,600 --> 02:44:19,080
Yes, correct.

1717
02:44:19,300 --> 02:44:19,420
Okay.

1718
02:44:20,200 --> 02:44:25,360
Buffalo, New York, a little outside of 100 miles, would not get that same treatment.

1719
02:44:25,960 --> 02:44:26,360
Correct.

1720
02:44:26,980 --> 02:44:27,100
Okay.

1721
02:44:28,660 --> 02:44:37,380
Brattleboro, Vermont, which is inside 100, but it's not Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut would automatically be excluded, short of a warrant or something like that.

1722
02:44:37,880 --> 02:44:39,260
Yes, they would be excluded.

1723
02:44:41,500 --> 02:44:47,760
My understanding of how this system works isn't necessarily just for what.

1724
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:54,160
But, Windsor Police can use it for Windsor original criminal activity.

1725
02:44:54,640 --> 02:44:59,980
This can be if there is a silver alert, an amber alert, or the things that-

1726
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,760
That trigger those events. If there is an abduction, a kidnapping, a, you know, any other one of those crimes. Without these cameras on, we can't help our neighboring folks, whether it's Bloomfield in one town over, or whether it's somebody in North Carolina. We become a dark spot. Now, whether people in criminals know that or not, but if someone, we have 70 spots

1727
02:45:29,760 --> 02:45:33,120
lots to come off of 91 for traveling, northbound, southbound.

1728
02:45:35,340 --> 02:45:42,160
We're missing the opportunity to identify and kind of be able to give folks a clue of

1729
02:45:42,160 --> 02:45:47,040
the direction that someone may be traveling if not outright stop something that's currently

1730
02:45:47,040 --> 02:45:47,840
in progress.

1731
02:45:48,440 --> 02:45:51,420
If the cameras are not functional, that's true, yes.

1732
02:45:51,940 --> 02:45:52,060
Okay.

1733
02:45:52,820 --> 02:45:53,080
Sorry.

1734
02:45:53,220 --> 02:45:54,300
I just wanted to make sure I had that.

1735
02:46:04,630 --> 02:46:05,150
Sorry.

1736
02:46:06,940 --> 02:46:07,440
So here,

1737
02:46:13,420 --> 02:46:14,980
so the

1738
02:46:17,020 --> 02:46:23,840
state plate system that is not the state of Connecticut owns and operates, correct?

1739
02:46:24,060 --> 02:46:30,260
My understanding is that is still, well, the state police do exercise their control on authority and under state statute.

1740
02:46:30,660 --> 02:46:32,960
It's still a third-party entity?

1741
02:46:33,480 --> 02:46:34,280
Yes, it is.

1742
02:46:37,620 --> 02:46:41,840
And then chief probably not a question for you, probably for Peter or for Scott.

1743
02:46:41,840 --> 02:46:50,640
I know someone had asked about FOIA requests and the time and effort that can, you know,

1744
02:46:50,820 --> 02:46:52,180
that the havoc that that can raise.

1745
02:46:53,140 --> 02:46:55,360
I'm not super familiar with it.

1746
02:46:55,500 --> 02:46:59,340
I don't know are these camera records actually FOIA-able?

1747
02:47:02,120 --> 02:47:07,380
So I'm going to go to Chief Melanthin because he's had the most familiarity with the FOIA

1748
02:47:07,380 --> 02:47:09,140
related to the cameras themselves.

1749
02:47:09,480 --> 02:47:09,640
Yes.

1750
02:47:09,640 --> 02:47:24,840
Yes, so the state law has limited, so what's available are the audits, but the actual plates and the data is exempt from the FOIA laws, per the new state statute that came out.

1751
02:47:25,140 --> 02:47:34,820
Okay, so that concern, at least that concern for that is off the table, because I can just imagine what's a data, but we can still charge, just like we can for any other FOIA request.

1752
02:47:35,500 --> 02:47:41,480
The law may have been updated, but last I remember, it was two hours of time, or a hundred sheets, or something like that.

1753
02:47:41,940 --> 02:47:51,100
You can start charging a certain amount or without getting into, but there is a point at which the, if the town or someone can,

1754
02:47:51,240 --> 02:48:00,880
if that report is not readily available and has to be created, then there's different parameters relative under Freedom Information Act.

1755
02:48:01,400 --> 02:48:01,480
Okay.

1756
02:48:01,480 --> 02:48:01,520
Yeah.

1757
02:48:02,180 --> 02:48:02,720
Then our change.

1758
02:48:03,800 --> 02:48:04,100
Chargeable.

1759
02:48:04,280 --> 02:48:04,420
Okay.

1760
02:48:04,560 --> 02:48:04,620
No.

1761
02:48:04,900 --> 02:48:05,680
Just wanted to clarify.

1762
02:48:05,900 --> 02:48:07,180
It's been a long time since I looked at that.

1763
02:48:09,300 --> 02:48:11,700
So I've heard some of the different things that have come through here.

1764
02:48:12,540 --> 02:48:13,320
Comments by Councillors.

1765
02:48:13,600 --> 02:48:15,680
And in particular, comments by the public.

1766
02:48:15,680 --> 02:48:17,620
And so I wanted to address just a couple of those.

1767
02:48:17,980 --> 02:48:20,120
Not just for the things that I just asked here.

1768
02:48:20,800 --> 02:48:23,540
I know we're looking at and people like to pull examples.

1769
02:48:23,820 --> 02:48:25,640
And we can all pull examples of different things.

1770
02:48:25,880 --> 02:48:30,800
But, you know, I know folks will say, well, we have these many instances in this state,

1771
02:48:30,800 --> 02:48:35,080
in this many instances here, something like that, and you know, we don't live in a world

1772
02:48:35,080 --> 02:48:35,720
of perfection.

1773
02:48:36,960 --> 02:48:39,400
You know, are we going to allow perfection to be the enemy of good?

1774
02:48:39,780 --> 02:48:42,360
You know, there's that classic age or argument.

1775
02:48:42,800 --> 02:48:44,960
What any of us ever get into a car, cars failed.

1776
02:48:45,280 --> 02:48:50,040
Cars, people fail at driving them, but we still don't, you know, say, oh, nobody can drive.

1777
02:48:50,780 --> 02:48:53,140
Just wider principle picture as I look at that.

1778
02:48:57,090 --> 02:49:01,070
I think when it comes to more police, I know Councillor Durant and the budget cycle had

1779
02:49:01,070 --> 02:49:03,950
They had advocated for that, but we just weren't even in a position.

1780
02:49:04,670 --> 02:49:10,710
I know we can talk about the future, but we weren't in a position to likely even be able to fill the spots that we have.

1781
02:49:11,170 --> 02:49:14,670
So I know Councillor Durant kind of withdraw that, but that was part of the discussion.

1782
02:49:18,130 --> 02:49:26,450
I'm also sort of of the idea of the, you know, I've heard the consent of the govern, the giving consent to this data.

1783
02:49:28,330 --> 02:49:29,010
Well,

1784
02:49:31,200 --> 02:49:36,140
we have state representatives who put this law into effect and allow it to be used.

1785
02:49:38,060 --> 02:49:41,120
We have a current governor who signed it into law.

1786
02:49:42,400 --> 02:49:49,300
We have a challenger of his, Josh Elliott, one of the primary authors voted for it.

1787
02:49:51,540 --> 02:49:59,880
Jillian Gilcrash devoted for this and then our own local representatives Jane Garvey was a sponsor and then Mary

1788
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:29,580
I'm con and Doug Macquarie, both voted for it. It passed the, this is the public act, 2614, that was referenced in a material. 24, 10 passage in the Senate. It's a 70% passage rate. In about a 63% passage in the house at a 90, 1553 clip, at least out of the folks who have voted. So, you know, I think our representatives, the people who were put in charge locally,

1789
02:50:29,580 --> 02:50:30,900
and statewide,

1790
02:50:32,920 --> 02:50:38,580
you know, we gave our consent to them to do things and they went and did it.

1791
02:50:38,860 --> 02:50:43,540
So, you know, if there's going to be consequences, I guess there should be consequences.

1792
02:50:43,840 --> 02:50:49,080
But just look at, we already have that local in that state support.

1793
02:50:49,840 --> 02:50:54,900
So, you know, again, we have both of our state representatives and one of our state senators

1794
02:50:54,900 --> 02:51:00,000
voting for this along with our governor and one of the challenges for the governorship.

1795
02:51:00,360 --> 02:51:05,260
So I look at that and I don't see a reason for that.

1796
02:51:05,520 --> 02:51:10,500
And then when I look at what we even did with town staff and

1797
02:51:10,500 --> 02:51:14,080
then even with the Health and Safety Committee,

1798
02:51:16,180 --> 02:51:24,140
we actually asked and town staff put through a system expansion and technology modification section.

1799
02:51:24,900 --> 02:51:31,560
I know there was a little bit for maybe what was posted online originally is a little different than what we were than what we have in front of us here

1800
02:51:32,920 --> 02:51:41,460
But what we're looking at tonight it would change to the policy is that in and we heard folks in the health and safety committee

1801
02:51:41,460 --> 02:51:46,180
We literally listen to people in public who said we want to have a level of control over this now

1802
02:51:46,180 --> 02:51:52,680
This isn't Norman Rockwell. This isn't New Hampshire. This isn't the Simpsons. We don't all get to go and vote on everything every single time

1803
02:51:53,820 --> 02:52:06,520
So, we're trying to take it so that instead of just one person be the town manager, the chief of police, or any other designate just decides to add turn things on or off,

1804
02:52:07,040 --> 02:52:16,360
we're actually looking to make it so that this body, which is accountable to the public through charter and elections,

1805
02:52:16,360 --> 02:52:20,940
is that we can't make, we're the only body that can actually make that changes,

1806
02:52:21,380 --> 02:52:24,020
whether it's to remove or whether it's to add something,

1807
02:52:24,380 --> 02:52:28,040
whether it's a significant feature we've heard of like police having the ability

1808
02:52:28,040 --> 02:52:30,840
through the system to do gunshot detection.

1809
02:52:31,380 --> 02:52:33,960
So we're not looking to change anything. We're not looking to add anything.

1810
02:52:34,060 --> 02:52:38,160
We're not looking to take anything away, but should we want to as a town?

1811
02:52:38,300 --> 02:52:42,320
It has to come through this body. It's not just the whim of a staff member.

1812
02:52:42,320 --> 02:52:45,860
No offense to any of our current staff members, but again looking to the future.

1813
02:52:48,360 --> 02:52:54,500
There's also a requirement that even when proposed to council that we have to have any

1814
02:52:54,500 --> 02:53:00,540
of this modification is that we're told what it is in advance, and so that means it's

1815
02:53:00,540 --> 02:53:03,820
also going to be a public document for-

1816
02:53:03,820 --> 02:53:05,280
Let me just put a clarification on that.

1817
02:53:05,440 --> 02:53:07,140
That is not adopted policies, that correct?

1818
02:53:07,300 --> 02:53:07,540
No, no.

1819
02:53:07,680 --> 02:53:08,780
This is what we're looking at tonight.

1820
02:53:12,380 --> 02:53:17,100
So provided that the council would be provided with a written description of the proposed

1821
02:53:17,100 --> 02:53:22,260
technology modification, its intended purpose, anticipated public safety benefits, privacy

1822
02:53:22,260 --> 02:53:27,180
implications, data retention and management practices, data sharing capabilities and

1823
02:53:27,180 --> 02:53:32,440
amendments to this policy to ensure continued compliance with applicable law and our town

1824
02:53:32,440 --> 02:53:33,000
policies.

1825
02:53:33,000 --> 02:53:42,380
So we have done the work here as a committee and through town staff to address the concerns

1826
02:53:42,380 --> 02:53:47,040
of the citizens and unfortunately as Mr. Durant said, as Councillor Durant said, we unfortunately

1827
02:53:47,040 --> 02:53:53,400
can't make everybody happy on this and we're going to see where we're a relatively split

1828
02:53:53,400 --> 02:53:54,440
town on this.

1829
02:53:54,620 --> 02:54:01,420
I understand that but I'd like to side in where I'm going to vote on this and why I didn't

1830
02:54:01,420 --> 02:54:11,060
making a motion, even though usually the majority would do that, is simply because I believe in the safety of our residents is paramount to the concerns of the privacy.

1831
02:54:11,800 --> 02:54:15,020
I don't like the big brother at watching aspect. I don't.

1832
02:54:17,280 --> 02:54:25,680
But I don't want to be in the position of knowing that I voted to turn something off that could very well have saved the life.

1833
02:54:26,880 --> 02:54:31,500
And I don't mean that as the one out of a million or billion, but jeez, what's one

1834
02:54:31,500 --> 02:54:31,780
life.

1835
02:54:32,220 --> 02:54:37,320
Even if it's not somebody who lives in Windsor, some kid gets abducted, and I don't care

1836
02:54:37,320 --> 02:54:41,720
if it's in Vermont, I don't care if it's in Ohio, if they're coming through and we can

1837
02:54:41,720 --> 02:54:42,280
find them.

1838
02:54:43,700 --> 02:54:46,880
I don't want to be on the side of criminals, this is what I come down to on this.

1839
02:54:47,020 --> 02:54:53,120
And I respect very much, again, the people's concerns for the data and the government in

1840
02:54:53,120 --> 02:54:59,900
the tracking, but at the end of the day, I don't want to have to know that my vote

1841
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:28,620
Endangered and possibly worse to someone's physical safety and well-being. And I think that we have done as a council, as a subcommittee and as town staff, we have done the very best to thread the needle along with our state legislators who heard, acted, and came up with what they did with public, with this public act. And I see absolutely no reason

1842
02:55:28,620 --> 02:55:33,140
and to not turn these cameras on and have them on.

1843
02:55:33,520 --> 02:55:35,680
And as a matter of cost, as much as we're,

1844
02:55:35,680 --> 02:55:40,480
we're cost conscious, we're under $50,000 a year for these.

1845
02:55:42,420 --> 02:55:45,700
So I think that it's one of those things

1846
02:55:45,700 --> 02:55:48,620
where you're trying to balance the different priorities.

1847
02:55:49,280 --> 02:55:53,540
And for me, that balance sides on having the cameras on,

1848
02:55:53,900 --> 02:55:56,020
having what they offer to our police

1849
02:55:56,020 --> 02:55:59,080
into the safety and well-being of our community,

1850
02:55:59,420 --> 02:56:02,500
whether it's here directly in Windsor or further afield.

1851
02:56:03,640 --> 02:56:04,060
Thank you.

1852
02:56:05,640 --> 02:56:08,440
So several of the points I wanted to make

1853
02:56:08,440 --> 02:56:10,800
have been stated except one.

1854
02:56:11,300 --> 02:56:14,200
So we've heard from council members that

1855
02:56:15,560 --> 02:56:16,740
we all support our police.

1856
02:56:17,180 --> 02:56:18,740
I have family members who are police officers

1857
02:56:19,360 --> 02:56:21,960
or care and Connecticut and other states.

1858
02:56:22,300 --> 02:56:23,460
We support our police.

1859
02:56:23,460 --> 02:56:30,100
But, as has been mentioned, the Connecticut General Assembly passed public act, number

1860
02:56:30,100 --> 02:56:36,080
26-14, and it clearly states it's an act concerning democracy and government accountability.

1861
02:56:37,340 --> 02:56:41,820
So at the forefront, for me, is exactly what the Deputy Mayor brought forward.

1862
02:56:43,020 --> 02:56:44,100
Where is the data going?

1863
02:56:44,660 --> 02:56:46,540
How is it going to be protected?

1864
02:56:47,280 --> 02:56:52,880
And while our legislators did a wonderful job along with citizens right here in our town

1865
02:56:52,880 --> 02:57:04,580
who are forefront and center, the vendor, in my opinion, still cannot protect our data.

1866
02:57:05,100 --> 02:57:06,960
And for me, that is the issue.

1867
02:57:07,580 --> 02:57:08,020
Absolutely.

1868
02:57:08,340 --> 02:57:13,440
Each and every day, I pray for the safety and the peace of our town, right?

1869
02:57:15,140 --> 02:57:21,900
But it comes back to how is the data being protected, how is it being shared, where is

1870
02:57:21,900 --> 02:57:22,200
Is it going?

1871
02:57:22,580 --> 02:57:28,160
And if we know that the vendor that we are utilizing is doing some dark and murky things,

1872
02:57:28,160 --> 02:57:30,420
I think that is okay for us to then question it.

1873
02:57:30,900 --> 02:57:37,480
So the other point that was made, well, can we find someone who can assist in ensuring that they're safety in our town,

1874
02:57:37,660 --> 02:57:40,640
but it's not going to have our data all over the place?

1875
02:57:40,640 --> 02:57:44,380
I know that might take some time to do, but that's just where I am.

1876
02:57:44,900 --> 02:57:48,880
So yes, our legislators did an amazing job, thank you, Governor, and others.

1877
02:57:48,880 --> 02:57:55,680
But the vendor has not met the requirement that has been shared in regards to what happens with our data.

1878
02:57:56,040 --> 02:57:56,640
That's the target.

1879
02:57:57,000 --> 02:58:00,000
It's not about our police.

1880
02:58:00,280 --> 02:58:02,720
We have fine police officers in this town.

1881
02:58:02,800 --> 02:58:06,920
We know that technology comes and I'm trying to catch up to you with technology and devices.

1882
02:58:07,600 --> 02:58:09,140
We know that technology has a place.

1883
02:58:09,600 --> 02:58:10,140
We know that.

1884
02:58:10,520 --> 02:58:11,380
That's obvious.

1885
02:58:11,920 --> 02:58:18,180
However, we are saying that what we are requesting of a vendor that we are paying money to is to do better.

1886
02:58:19,640 --> 02:58:24,820
So that's my position and I get passionate about that because it can't be hinged on,

1887
02:58:25,020 --> 02:58:27,740
oh, we dislike the police or we're trying to endanger people.

1888
02:58:27,880 --> 02:58:28,480
Absolutely not.

1889
02:58:29,380 --> 02:58:30,260
Absolutely not.

1890
02:58:30,800 --> 02:58:35,120
But I do believe that we have to consider what is being said.

1891
02:58:35,640 --> 02:58:42,420
And at the forefront for me and why I will vote in the way that I do is that again, my

1892
02:58:42,420 --> 02:58:46,300
data, I don't know where it is, I'm sure I'm driving through town, I don't, do you

1893
02:58:46,300 --> 02:58:46,960
know where your data is?

1894
02:58:48,520 --> 02:58:48,980
I don't.

1895
02:58:49,320 --> 02:58:53,900
So that's where, you know, in your right, I go to the airport, I don't know what they're

1896
02:58:53,900 --> 02:59:01,480
doing with my data, but if I consciously know that a vendor has done things that they probably

1897
02:59:01,480 --> 02:59:04,720
should not have done, then I think I have a right to say that I don't want that vendor

1898
02:59:04,720 --> 02:59:06,660
and can we find another one.

1899
02:59:07,420 --> 02:59:08,380
So I'll pause here.

1900
02:59:08,800 --> 02:59:10,580
Other comments, Councillor Svetlana?

1901
02:59:10,920 --> 02:59:12,360
I would just say the same thing.

1902
02:59:12,520 --> 02:59:12,880
Oh, sorry.

1903
02:59:14,100 --> 02:59:19,120
I would just, and again, I'm sorry for my voice, but I would just reiterate what Madam Mayor said.

1904
02:59:20,160 --> 02:59:23,740
At the end of the day, it's not about the police, it's not about the technology.

1905
02:59:23,740 --> 02:59:25,160
It's about this particular vendor.

1906
02:59:25,320 --> 02:59:26,620
This particular vendor is not trustworthy.

1907
02:59:27,180 --> 02:59:29,140
They've done a lot of things that are very concerning.

1908
02:59:29,600 --> 02:59:30,820
Yes, we have a policy in place.

1909
02:59:30,820 --> 02:59:32,940
but the policy is not for Fox specifically.

1910
02:59:33,420 --> 02:59:36,060
It's for this technology as a whole, which I think is a great policy.

1911
02:59:36,440 --> 02:59:41,900
But I think we need to look at vendors that are maybe a little less sketch than the ones working with right now.

1912
02:59:42,620 --> 02:59:43,620
Thank you, Councillor Glockwell.

1913
02:59:44,020 --> 02:59:45,020
Just a quick question.

1914
02:59:45,420 --> 02:59:53,280
Chief, with us not, if it's known to folks that want to go into the academy or want to come to Windsor and be a police officer

1915
02:59:53,280 --> 02:59:58,680
or the current officers that are actually on our staff, would it hinder them from coming here, would it make them want to leave?

1916
03:00:01,810 --> 03:00:31,450
I'm not going to read what people would think or not. I do know that, you know, I believe there's 50 to 70 other communities in Connecticut that use flock that are not turning their cameras off. They have faith in the company. We've seen them, and they have been very responsive to everything that we've done to work to make sure that they've tightened ship. Many of the things that you hear are not always

1917
03:00:31,450 --> 03:00:34,290
fact, I think that that's important also.

1918
03:00:34,810 --> 03:00:38,590
We know that there's a lot of things out on social media that aren't necessarily true.

1919
03:00:39,350 --> 03:00:42,970
They've been very responsive to us, they've been, you know, as far as their data.

1920
03:00:43,130 --> 03:00:44,350
We have the analytical logs.

1921
03:00:44,670 --> 03:00:48,490
We can see the audits of who's touching our data in the searches.

1922
03:00:49,010 --> 03:00:56,030
So I think that, you know, when you look at what other agencies and the chiefs that I've

1923
03:00:56,030 --> 03:00:58,550
They're not, they're, they're expanding their systems.

1924
03:00:59,070 --> 03:01:00,130
They're not turning them off.

1925
03:01:00,270 --> 03:01:00,650
Turn them off.

1926
03:01:00,950 --> 03:01:01,250
Okay.

1927
03:01:01,690 --> 03:01:03,650
And thank you for mentioning about the two factor notification.

1928
03:01:04,010 --> 03:01:05,630
I know you've mentioned that before and I've asked before.

1929
03:01:05,990 --> 03:01:07,410
So thank you for mentioning that as well.

1930
03:01:09,440 --> 03:01:12,920
And do want to state, thank you, Chief Millanson,

1931
03:01:13,440 --> 03:01:15,660
Scott Covey, all of the town staff, Mr. Suza,

1932
03:01:15,780 --> 03:01:16,240
Health and Safety.

1933
03:01:17,000 --> 03:01:19,020
It's been a lot of work to get to this point.

1934
03:01:19,140 --> 03:01:20,120
It's been a lot of work.

1935
03:01:20,500 --> 03:01:23,960
And thank you so much for taking the time and the energy to do

1936
03:01:23,960 --> 03:01:27,080
exactly that and bring us something tonight.

1937
03:01:27,080 --> 03:01:30,820
so we appreciate that. Thank you. All right. We're ready for the vote.

1938
03:01:31,440 --> 03:01:38,180
No. I just asked one because it's going to be 1030. So we are ready to make a motion to extend.

1939
03:01:39,120 --> 03:01:42,260
So my question will be quick. It's probably your answer. They'll be long.

1940
03:01:43,280 --> 03:01:49,660
My question is do you feel that the flock camera contracts and simply a contract

1941
03:01:49,660 --> 03:01:56,220
words put together by attorney can't be negotiated to provide better

1942
03:01:56,220 --> 03:02:03,620
of safeguard to the town of Windsor, do you think we should put that on front of the safety of the town of Windsor?

1943
03:02:04,480 --> 03:02:05,940
And you're asking me this question directly?

1944
03:02:05,940 --> 03:02:06,240
I am.

1945
03:02:06,480 --> 03:02:16,760
Okay, so I feel based on your question that if we find another vendor that can meet the needs that the town of

1946
03:02:16,760 --> 03:02:18,760
Windsor has requested, then we do that.

1947
03:02:19,320 --> 03:02:23,320
And so for me, saying that I'm looking to endanger, is that the word that you choose?

1948
03:02:23,320 --> 03:02:24,200
I don't want to put words in your mouth?

1949
03:02:26,280 --> 03:02:39,780
So you did say that. I just wanted to make sure. So for me it's not saying that I'm putting someone's safety ahead of. I'm saying that this vendor does not meet what I'm a shit. I'm looking for from a vendor who's going to be joining this.

1950
03:02:41,940 --> 03:02:43,340
So it would be a simple to get out of the vendor.

1951
03:02:44,880 --> 03:02:49,340
That's something we could we could consider but are we going to find a vendor that's something

1952
03:02:49,340 --> 03:02:53,760
that could be stated but for right now with what's in front of me and I do believe someone

1953
03:02:53,760 --> 03:02:57,460
is always like well I need to vote on what's in front of me what's in front of me tonight

1954
03:02:57,460 --> 03:02:58,600
I'm voting on that.

1955
03:02:59,260 --> 03:03:00,320
You're not mad man.

1956
03:03:00,680 --> 03:03:09,560
Thank you all right if we are ready for the vote no no okay and again we have two minutes

1957
03:03:09,560 --> 03:03:16,420
Yeah, we have to extend okay. There's a bunch of other stuff on the agenda. Yeah, just make a motion

1958
03:03:17,980 --> 03:03:20,240
Go ahead make your motion if you need to

1959
03:03:21,040 --> 03:03:23,060
Well, what does that make you can we do it?

1960
03:03:23,140 --> 03:03:26,520
Right because we need to do

1961
03:03:26,520 --> 03:03:31,460
I have a question

1962
03:03:31,980 --> 03:03:37,320
So make make please um, I'm in the middle of the liberation. I move it

1963
03:03:37,320 --> 03:03:51,160
So please ask your question, and so my question to those who are saying, I haven't seen or been provided evidence,

1964
03:03:52,080 --> 03:03:58,600
not that there's a requirement to do so, but I haven't seen anything through town staff or presentation,

1965
03:03:58,920 --> 03:04:03,400
its conjecture and hearsay that flock has done this.

1966
03:04:04,160 --> 03:04:05,340
I'd like to challenge that.

1967
03:04:05,660 --> 03:04:15,660
I believe that staff had shared a lot with us back last year over the summer in health and safety about some of the concerns that had come up with flock with the data privacy and everything else with that.

1968
03:04:16,720 --> 03:04:17,200
Again.

1969
03:04:18,360 --> 03:04:24,960
Yes, so Councillor Pellke, because we are at this juncture, it is now exactly 1030.

1970
03:04:25,700 --> 03:04:30,380
We do need to entertain a motion to extend and we do have other business.

1971
03:04:33,240 --> 03:04:37,760
All right. All in favor, extending our meeting to 1115.

1972
03:04:39,020 --> 03:04:39,620
Aye.

1973
03:04:40,020 --> 03:04:40,200
Aye.

1974
03:04:40,920 --> 03:04:41,240
No.

1975
03:04:41,520 --> 03:04:41,640
No.

1976
03:04:42,240 --> 03:04:42,540
All right.

1977
03:04:42,880 --> 03:04:44,100
And so that motion carries.

1978
03:04:44,340 --> 03:04:45,620
So we will extend to 1115.

1979
03:04:46,340 --> 03:04:46,680
Thank you.

1980
03:04:46,920 --> 03:04:47,440
Councillor Pellke.

1981
03:04:47,880 --> 03:04:57,600
But since we've had this change in the law has flocked done anything that violates Connecticut

1982
03:04:57,600 --> 03:04:59,840
the law. Our policy.

1983
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:29,860
Or even inside of Connecticut with other departments or anything else? I mean, the law is like, like, it's not even six days old, right? Like, I think it's changed in July, right? And then, yeah, it's still asking. Right? So, um, are you asking your other counselors? I'm just trying to anybody who might have an answer for talking that flock is so evil and bad? And I'm not trying to defend them. I'm literally trying to, for the sake of information. I think for reality's sake, I don't think we build the answer.

1984
03:05:29,860 --> 03:05:33,060
that the law is six days old, and I don't think they know what to be factual.

1985
03:05:33,620 --> 03:05:38,840
So Madam Mayor, I believe you should be further researched to that question, if you're asking that.

1986
03:05:39,020 --> 03:05:41,300
So I don't think anyone here would know that as of now.

1987
03:05:41,440 --> 03:05:41,600
Right.

1988
03:05:42,340 --> 03:05:43,560
That's why I'm asking, so.

1989
03:05:44,400 --> 03:05:50,200
So I think the answer to your question and Councilor Pelke, and thinking about the line of questioning,

1990
03:05:50,500 --> 03:05:57,280
I think everybody is able to share their perspective and their opinion, as it relates, right?

1991
03:05:57,280 --> 03:06:00,600
So there are things that have been shared by several Councillors.

1992
03:06:01,000 --> 03:06:04,720
Doesn't mean I have to agree or disagree, right, but you were able to share that.

1993
03:06:05,080 --> 03:06:09,600
So while we don't have that answer, that's only the discussion just to ask.

1994
03:06:10,020 --> 03:06:10,420
Exactly.

1995
03:06:10,920 --> 03:06:11,100
You're right.

1996
03:06:11,540 --> 03:06:11,920
Okay.

1997
03:06:12,060 --> 03:06:12,940
So are you done with your questions?

1998
03:06:13,840 --> 03:06:13,980
Yep.

1999
03:06:14,400 --> 03:06:14,560
Okay.

2000
03:06:14,860 --> 03:06:16,420
Councilor Oliver, did you have another question?

2001
03:06:16,820 --> 03:06:23,620
Well, I was just going to simply ask very simply what happens to two parts?

2002
03:06:23,620 --> 03:06:30,580
What happens to a Windsor police officer that misuses the system to go look up his girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever?

2003
03:06:31,500 --> 03:06:34,720
What's the punishment for that sort of behavior?

2004
03:06:35,860 --> 03:06:41,740
There's two different avenues. There's administrative which they'd probably be fired and then depending on the

2005
03:06:41,740 --> 03:06:47,120
seriousness of what they were using it for. And then also it's a felony to use it illegally. So there's

2006
03:06:47,120 --> 03:06:50,160
criminal, and there's a criminal exposure as well.

2007
03:06:51,180 --> 03:06:54,920
And for officers not in winter but in other states,

2008
03:06:55,740 --> 03:06:59,940
if they were to make a false statement in order to gain access to our system,

2009
03:07:00,620 --> 03:07:06,780
I presume there would be some potential consequence in their respective jurisdiction.

2010
03:07:07,340 --> 03:07:12,420
They would, there would be criminal exposure in Connecticut, because they would be violating it.

2011
03:07:12,420 --> 03:07:29,080
And it's for cybercrime, it's not only where it occurs, but it's both ends of it, so it's, you know, Connecticut as well, so they'd be exposing themselves to criminal exposure in Connecticut, depending no matter where they were in the country.

2012
03:07:29,340 --> 03:07:29,760
Madam Mayor.

2013
03:07:30,040 --> 03:07:30,440
Thank you.

2014
03:07:31,920 --> 03:07:34,380
So I'm going to just reiterate this again.

2015
03:07:34,620 --> 03:07:38,080
I don't think that anyone has any concerns about the Windsor Police Department,

2016
03:07:38,300 --> 03:07:43,540
the calculation of any officer in our department, or even any officer perhaps in Connecticut.

2017
03:07:43,980 --> 03:07:49,320
I think that, and I don't even think anybody has any concerns about the violations of Connecticut law.

2018
03:07:49,620 --> 03:07:54,320
I think that the concerns are, is that people have a concern around their data,

2019
03:07:54,740 --> 03:07:57,700
and without their giving consent to their data.

2020
03:07:57,700 --> 03:08:03,720
And when they can't control it and the environment, you can say, yes, my data is out there,

2021
03:08:03,840 --> 03:08:08,720
but they pick to use a phone or they pick to put themselves in that environment.

2022
03:08:09,140 --> 03:08:12,600
So you can agree with that or not, but that is the contention.

2023
03:08:13,160 --> 03:08:17,760
The other thing is, regardless of whether you believe that that threshold exists or

2024
03:08:17,760 --> 03:08:24,600
not, there have been times in which the federal government has chosen to participate with

2025
03:08:24,600 --> 03:08:31,600
companies like FeltFlock and authorize and access data and you get access to that data

2026
03:08:31,600 --> 03:08:36,920
and there are examples of that. So that is the other concern because they have access

2027
03:08:36,920 --> 03:08:43,200
to their data. They maintain data in their database and they have let Flock has allowed

2028
03:08:43,200 --> 03:08:47,360
the federal government to use that data. They have apologized for that. They said that

2029
03:08:47,360 --> 03:08:51,980
they don't, won't do that again, but that has happened. And as a matter of course and

2030
03:08:51,980 --> 03:08:53,000
and it is on their website.

2031
03:08:53,780 --> 03:08:54,900
So those are the concerns.

2032
03:08:57,090 --> 03:08:57,230
Thank you.

2033
03:08:57,410 --> 03:08:59,150
And Madam Mayor, I might reiterate,

2034
03:08:59,570 --> 03:09:03,410
we did say that if another venue could be recognized

2035
03:09:03,410 --> 03:09:07,390
or be provided that I don't believe

2036
03:09:07,390 --> 03:09:09,210
that factor is off the table,

2037
03:09:09,450 --> 03:09:13,790
but the concern is that we hear over and over about flock

2038
03:09:14,630 --> 03:09:16,850
and not about the issues of the police

2039
03:09:16,850 --> 03:09:19,770
or other items that were addressed.

2040
03:09:21,150 --> 03:09:21,910
All right.

2041
03:09:21,910 --> 03:09:22,750
All right, thank you.

2042
03:09:23,050 --> 03:09:26,850
So if we're ready for the vote, all right.

2043
03:09:27,930 --> 03:09:34,950
So given the agenda item, I don't believe we need to restate the motion, but Deputy Mayor

2044
03:09:34,950 --> 03:09:39,610
for our listening audience, if you could just summarize what the motion is, please.

2045
03:09:40,530 --> 03:09:42,350
It is councilman.

2046
03:09:42,510 --> 03:09:43,210
Thank you.

2047
03:09:43,830 --> 03:09:44,530
Councilor Calkey.

2048
03:09:45,210 --> 03:09:45,330
Motion.

2049
03:09:52,990 --> 03:09:58,370
The motion was that I moved to approve the reactivation of the police department's automated

2050
03:09:58,370 --> 03:09:59,970
license plate reader cameras and reneed.

2051
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:09,800
I agree with the annual contract with Flock Safety, based on the amended master's service agreement as well as approve the towns amended a LPR policy as presented.

2052
03:10:12,120 --> 03:10:23,160
Right. Thank you. All in favor of that motion. Aye. Aye. All opposed. No. No. And that motion fails. 4, 5, 0.

2053
03:10:25,650 --> 03:10:29,690
Thank you, Councillor. On to item 12. Mr. Mr.

2054
03:10:36,300 --> 03:10:38,640
I'm just getting to my place. Thank you. Deputy

2055
03:10:38,640 --> 03:11:07,260
I move that the mill rate for the fiscal year 2027 beginning July 1, 2026, 6 be set at 28.88 mills for real estate personal property and motor vehicles, which reflects the October 2025 property valuation with a total estimated net taxable grand list for fiscal year 2027 of 4,616,372,252 dollars.

2056
03:11:07,260 --> 03:11:07,780
Second.

2057
03:11:09,700 --> 03:11:11,180
Thank you, Councillor Armstrong.

2058
03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:12,140
Mr. Susanna?

2059
03:11:12,360 --> 03:11:13,200
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2060
03:11:13,360 --> 03:11:20,700
This is a required action by the town council to set the mill rate for this current fiscal

2061
03:11:20,700 --> 03:11:21,060
year.

2062
03:11:22,460 --> 03:11:30,680
And as Deputy Mayor stated, this reflects the adopted general fund budget expenditures as well

2063
03:11:30,680 --> 03:11:39,640
as taking an account state aid in other non-tax revenue that is generated via the town.

2064
03:11:40,860 --> 03:11:46,280
So this was said at 28.88, I just wanted to reiterate that tax bills will be mailed

2065
03:11:47,160 --> 03:11:54,420
by the 24th of this month, and they're due in full by the end of the day on September

2066
03:11:54,420 --> 03:11:57,260
1st to avoid any late charges.

2067
03:11:58,420 --> 03:12:04,940
thank you all right and if we are ready for the vote all in favor any

2068
03:12:05,720 --> 03:12:09,820
opposition abstentions hearing none and that passes eight to zero zero.

2069
03:12:12,290 --> 03:12:12,670
I don't

2070
03:12:12,670 --> 03:12:20,190
number thirteen resignations and appointments Mr. Counselor Pellke. Wow you

2071
03:12:20,190 --> 03:12:26,950
really long long short here. Look at that much of us see this meeting. Not at all I

2072
03:12:26,950 --> 03:12:28,490
I look this way, and so sorry.

2073
03:12:28,630 --> 03:12:29,810
Yep, but you'll have to have a practice.

2074
03:12:30,630 --> 03:12:33,430
There are no resignations or a criminal case.

2075
03:12:33,430 --> 03:12:33,570
All right.

2076
03:12:34,490 --> 03:12:35,610
Thank you so much.

2077
03:12:35,810 --> 03:12:36,790
There are.

2078
03:12:37,070 --> 03:12:37,630
So there are.

2079
03:12:37,830 --> 03:12:38,410
How's the king?

2080
03:12:38,610 --> 03:12:39,110
I apologize.

2081
03:12:39,250 --> 03:12:39,810
Oh, I'm sorry.

2082
03:12:40,110 --> 03:12:41,350
Do I look at the wrong thing?

2083
03:12:41,710 --> 03:12:42,670
Oh, you know what it is.

2084
03:12:42,730 --> 03:12:43,590
It's the one meeting I'm sorry.

2085
03:12:44,230 --> 03:12:44,870
Thank you.

2086
03:12:45,150 --> 03:12:46,290
Let me do this real quick.

2087
03:12:47,590 --> 03:12:48,610
Of course, wouldn't.

2088
03:12:48,710 --> 03:12:49,190
I have no voice.

2089
03:12:49,270 --> 03:12:49,890
I mean, never do it.

2090
03:12:49,970 --> 03:12:50,650
No, I'll do it.

2091
03:12:50,710 --> 03:12:52,350
All you guys can just listen to my voice, fail.

2092
03:12:52,450 --> 03:12:52,990
The end will be great.

2093
03:12:53,650 --> 03:12:56,430
So I moved to reappoint Megan Cope as Democratic

2094
03:12:56,430 --> 03:13:04,030
The Democratic Alternate Member to the Inland Wetlands and Water Courses Commission for four-year term to expire March 31, 2030, or until a successor is appointed.

2095
03:13:04,590 --> 03:13:14,050
I move to reappoint Alvin Bingham as a Democratic member to the Wilson-Dearford Advisory Committee for a three-year term to expire April 30, 2029, or until a successor is appointed.

2096
03:13:14,430 --> 03:13:24,630
I move to reappoint Katherine Woodward as a Democratic member to the Wilson-Dearford Advisory Committee for a three-year term to expire April 30, 2029 or until a successor is appointed.

2097
03:13:24,630 --> 03:13:31,910
And I move to reappoint Leant Tyson as a Democratic member to the Library Advisory Board for a three-year term to expire April 30th,

2098
03:13:32,470 --> 03:13:34,390
2029, or until a successor is appointed.

2099
03:13:35,470 --> 03:13:36,810
Thank you, Councillor King.

2100
03:13:37,910 --> 03:13:38,850
Somebody, second me.

2101
03:13:39,570 --> 03:13:39,910
Second.

2102
03:13:41,270 --> 03:13:41,870
Thank you.

2103
03:13:42,170 --> 03:13:43,210
Thank you, Councillor Armstrong.

2104
03:13:44,110 --> 03:13:47,650
All right, any comments, questions, regardless of the resignation's appointment?

2105
03:13:47,750 --> 03:13:51,310
And these were all reappointments, so there was no like new interviews or anything there.

2106
03:13:51,530 --> 03:13:51,930
It was a quick meeting.

2107
03:13:52,530 --> 03:13:53,470
All right, all in favor?

2108
03:13:53,470 --> 03:14:01,210
I hear no opposition or abstentions that passes 8-0-0 meetings minutes of our

2109
03:14:01,210 --> 03:14:05,950
proceeding meetings I move that we approve the minutes of June 15th 2026

2110
03:14:05,950 --> 03:14:10,850
special town council meeting and the minutes of the June 15th 2026 regular town

2111
03:14:10,850 --> 03:14:17,050
council meeting thank you council Armstrong any corrections comments

2112
03:14:17,050 --> 03:14:19,870
Councillors, hearing none, all in favour?

2113
03:14:20,250 --> 03:14:20,590
Aye.

2114
03:14:21,550 --> 03:14:23,650
And that passes 8-0-0.

2115
03:14:24,090 --> 03:14:24,650
Thank you.

2116
03:14:25,130 --> 03:14:30,370
We are back to public communications and petitions.

2117
03:14:40,510 --> 03:14:44,990
If anyone from the public would like to address the council, you will be given three minutes

2118
03:14:44,990 --> 03:14:45,630
to speak.

2119
03:14:46,630 --> 03:14:52,990
Please state your name and address, and I just need to get to the new piece that I need to

2120
03:14:52,990 --> 03:14:53,290
read.

2121
03:14:56,760 --> 03:14:59,980
The Council welcomes and values public comments, we ask that all speak.

2122
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:29,900
Members, conduct themselves with civility and respect. Please do not refer to other speakers by name or use the regulatory, inflammatory, or disrespectful language when expressing your views. Please note that this portion of the meeting is for the council to listen to the public input. The council does not respond to questions or engage in discussion during public comment. Your comments will be received and considered as part of the public record. Thank you for your participation in helping to maintain a respectful and productive meeting environment. And I will turn this over to our moderator.

2123
03:15:29,900 --> 03:15:31,800
Scott, who will be assistant to our manager.

2124
03:15:32,460 --> 03:15:33,220
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2125
03:15:33,380 --> 03:15:36,740
If there is anyone from the public who would like to address the council in this virtual

2126
03:15:36,740 --> 03:15:40,340
this evening, you may do so by raising your hand on your computer by selecting the participants

2127
03:15:40,340 --> 03:15:44,620
icon in the Zoom menu bar, and then clicking raise hand or by dialing star nine on your phone.

2128
03:15:45,100 --> 03:15:46,280
You'll be given three minutes to speak.

2129
03:15:46,480 --> 03:15:47,380
Please state your name and address.

2130
03:15:47,900 --> 03:15:50,100
When you were called on, you'd be prompted that you were now muted.

2131
03:15:50,580 --> 03:15:53,820
For those dialing in by phone, once prompted, you will then press star six to unmute.

2132
03:15:54,240 --> 03:15:57,640
For a clear communication, we ask that you do not place to call on speakerphone.

2133
03:15:57,640 --> 03:16:01,400
At this time, Madam Mayor, we do have one virtual attendee with their hand raised.

2134
03:16:02,100 --> 03:16:04,040
Thank you, Mr. Colby.

2135
03:16:10,240 --> 03:16:11,740
To our first call, you were now unmuted.

2136
03:16:12,740 --> 03:16:16,880
Hello, this is DJ Mobley from 47 Ludlow.

2137
03:16:18,040 --> 03:16:29,460
Just had a real quick information that lately we've been inundated with a person

2138
03:16:29,460 --> 03:16:33,360
that's soliciting even with the signs all over our doors.

2139
03:16:34,140 --> 03:16:37,740
Apparently it's all over our Windsor Facebook page

2140
03:16:37,740 --> 03:16:41,700
that this company doesn't even regard

2141
03:16:41,700 --> 03:16:43,160
whatever the signs are.

2142
03:16:44,340 --> 03:16:48,060
I'm not sure if everybody else is aware of what's going on

2143
03:16:48,060 --> 03:16:49,960
but it is a new sense.

2144
03:16:50,520 --> 03:16:53,620
I'm not sure if the website or the town can just have

2145
03:16:53,620 --> 03:16:55,220
some information of what we could put up.

2146
03:16:55,220 --> 03:17:00,460
And, of course, a vaccine, if it's starting to get to the point where it's harassment.

2147
03:17:01,180 --> 03:17:04,220
I know that we could probably call the non-mergency 911,

2148
03:17:05,160 --> 03:17:12,120
a winter police phone number, but it seems like this company is very adamant,

2149
03:17:12,220 --> 03:17:15,140
especially going up and down multiple times in the driveway,

2150
03:17:15,700 --> 03:17:18,860
you know, pushing in or knocking on the doors in the middle of the night,

2151
03:17:19,740 --> 03:17:22,180
for whatever this company is trying to sell.

2152
03:17:23,280 --> 03:17:32,100
So that was just my two cents, and thank you for having me and thank you for all the information about the cameras.

2153
03:17:33,180 --> 03:17:34,760
Appreciate it, and that's it.

2154
03:17:35,600 --> 03:17:36,300
Thank you.

2155
03:17:37,140 --> 03:17:40,000
This time, Madam Mayor, we have no other virtual attendees with their handrails.

2156
03:17:40,160 --> 03:17:42,040
All right, so we'll move to the town hall chamber.

2157
03:17:43,840 --> 03:17:46,620
Hi, Eric Weiner, 150 Broad Street.

2158
03:17:48,160 --> 03:17:49,300
I'd like to thank you all.

2159
03:17:49,300 --> 03:17:59,440
While this was not easy, it's been a tough, tough six months going through this, and many towns throughout the state are doing the same or will be doing.

2160
03:18:02,460 --> 03:18:10,160
This is not going to be the last time these types of issues come before you as technology, the pace of technology advances.

2161
03:18:12,970 --> 03:18:21,230
When I first approached the police department with a FOIA request, they didn't know how their system was working.

2162
03:18:21,230 --> 03:18:27,570
And they couldn't have been auditing the system till I did the audit.

2163
03:18:28,210 --> 03:18:32,490
These software systems are incredibly complex.

2164
03:18:34,520 --> 03:18:46,040
Think very hard about summer vision to process here as the town goes about adopting newer AI based technologies.

2165
03:18:46,640 --> 03:18:48,740
Because we're going to get tripped up again.

2166
03:18:48,740 --> 03:18:54,220
Again, we started to get going down the path to get tripped up the last health and safety

2167
03:18:54,220 --> 03:19:00,020
committee meeting when the police chief said the department was given a robotic dog

2168
03:19:00,020 --> 03:19:00,700
with a camera.

2169
03:19:01,840 --> 03:19:06,800
And that was just passed right through with no discussion.

2170
03:19:07,560 --> 03:19:10,940
That's exactly how we got to hear we are with flock.

2171
03:19:12,040 --> 03:19:17,440
Something came in, sounds like great, but we'd never considered the ramifications of that.

2172
03:19:17,440 --> 03:19:24,040
that. That's a problem that I think is important to address so we don't get our

2173
03:19:24,040 --> 03:19:30,880
silagery out up like this in the future. I do have a suggestion to help get around that.

2174
03:19:31,520 --> 03:19:37,680
And that would be to have the police department report like the BOE does on a monthly basis

2175
03:19:38,350 --> 03:19:45,360
on their activities, highlight perhaps major crime patterns in the issues that they are facing.

2176
03:19:45,360 --> 03:19:49,900
The public deserves to hear that information.

2177
03:19:50,740 --> 03:19:59,460
And I would encourage you to consider adopting some change in your policy about oversight in law enforcement.

2178
03:19:59,460 --> 03:19:59,980
and proceed.

2179
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:18,600
Perhaps other departments in the town. And, by the way, there, as the chief said, there are 90 or 100 municipalities in Connecticut that don't use flock. So it's not to be all an end all. Thank you. Thank you.

2180
03:20:18,600 --> 03:20:19,760
Thank you.

2181
03:20:33,170 --> 03:20:34,670
George Lates, 74 youth and drive.

2182
03:20:35,990 --> 03:20:45,890
Before the deliberations for referendum three, Councillor Durant made a comment and my comments are meant totally to be positive.

2183
03:20:46,730 --> 03:20:58,670
His comment went something like he was impressed, please, accepting of the presentations by town staff during the budget process and your hearings.

2184
03:20:58,670 --> 03:21:03,870
I have attended some many, many moons ago and seen some on camera.

2185
03:21:04,530 --> 03:21:06,870
I share that opinion, agree with it.

2186
03:21:07,770 --> 03:21:14,910
The rest of Councillor Durant's comments, I refrain from commenting on that, and Japanese

2187
03:21:14,910 --> 03:21:18,550
phrase for that or the word is Mokusatsu, refraining from comment.

2188
03:21:19,530 --> 03:21:25,030
But my sense is that the other eight Councillors share that view.

2189
03:21:25,030 --> 03:21:36,140
So my comment, the positive one is the board members, the nine of them go through a similar process.

2190
03:21:37,580 --> 03:21:40,580
They do do their due diligence.

2191
03:21:42,340 --> 03:21:53,900
Once the budget comes here and you're going through your deliberations, and I'm not sure if I've ever seen deliberations to move it on budget to go up except for OPEP for $100,000.

2192
03:21:53,900 --> 03:22:02,300
that you're looking at cuts. But always remember, the board members do do their due diligence.

2193
03:22:04,060 --> 03:22:05,060
Thank you.

2194
03:22:15,800 --> 03:22:22,820
If para, 25 Bradford Drive, I'm Anna Mayer, councillors. Thank you very much for all what

2195
03:22:22,820 --> 03:22:31,020
you did tonight considering carefully the flood camera issues and the LPR systems. My

2196
03:22:31,020 --> 03:22:36,380
My thought is that it's a very, very valuable tool for law enforcement and protecting us.

2197
03:22:36,700 --> 03:22:41,400
However, as the mayor said, this company, I think,

2198
03:22:41,540 --> 03:22:43,600
Fluck doesn't qualify as a vendor.

2199
03:22:44,500 --> 03:22:53,140
And this should basically go back to work if they want to be considered by us to provide more security for the data that satisfy the citizenship.

2200
03:22:54,400 --> 03:22:57,180
So hopefully, this is going to happen.

2201
03:22:57,180 --> 03:23:04,040
And so also, one thing I was thinking tonight, I was a little bit taken aback.

2202
03:23:04,180 --> 03:23:06,800
I was not seeing this happening.

2203
03:23:08,140 --> 03:23:10,600
I didn't know that it was about a flood camera tonight.

2204
03:23:11,460 --> 03:23:15,580
And one thing that came up to my thought, hearing everything,

2205
03:23:16,580 --> 03:23:19,100
is it is extremely hard.

2206
03:23:19,660 --> 03:23:22,160
I'm basically being trained in software engineer as well.

2207
03:23:22,160 --> 03:23:26,240
Well, it's extremely hard to provide security of data.

2208
03:23:27,060 --> 03:23:28,160
It's going to leak.

2209
03:23:28,500 --> 03:23:31,400
It can almost be sure it's going to leak.

2210
03:23:32,240 --> 03:23:34,480
So we need to face that situation.

2211
03:23:34,620 --> 03:23:42,740
If you want to provide that to our citizenship, to the police department, to basically enhance

2212
03:23:42,740 --> 03:23:48,360
the safety and the well-being of everyone, we need to keep that in mind and that in consideration.

2213
03:23:49,120 --> 03:23:50,440
Very important in my mind.

2214
03:23:50,440 --> 03:23:53,180
And I think it's very important to the citizenship as well.

2215
03:23:54,340 --> 03:24:00,700
So, that's all I got to say about this, regarding the budget.

2216
03:24:01,260 --> 03:24:07,300
Again, thank you very much to the town manager and

2217
03:24:07,300 --> 03:24:12,680
to the town council for working so hard and making it happen and

2218
03:24:12,680 --> 03:24:15,780
going to revotes and finally we'll go to the proof.

2219
03:24:17,580 --> 03:24:22,540
Personally, I would say that I'm not totally happy about it because we still have a raise

2220
03:24:22,540 --> 03:24:24,100
in the mill rate.

2221
03:24:24,760 --> 03:24:29,680
And also, I'm concerned about the Board of Education budget, to me, it doesn't make sense

2222
03:24:29,680 --> 03:24:30,080
to me.

2223
03:24:31,160 --> 03:24:37,080
However, what I'm going to do is basically start participating in the Board of Education Meeting

2224
03:24:37,080 --> 03:24:41,180
and by being present and see what's going on, more exactly to see what's going on in there.

2225
03:24:42,120 --> 03:24:43,880
So again, thank you very much.

2226
03:24:43,880 --> 03:24:47,920
I know that you're not paid for doing what you're doing here. So thank you very much for your

2227
03:24:47,920 --> 03:24:49,800
work, guys. Thank you.

2228
03:24:56,200 --> 03:24:59,960
All right. Seeing no one else moving forward. Thank you to

2229
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:30,670
Thank you, our speakers. We already had executive session. So, before I entertain a motion for adjournment, do want to say thank you again to all of our speakers. Please be reminded of the amazing events happening in celebration of our 250th on Wednesday and Thursday on the green. And again, continue just to pray for the peace and the safety of our town. And thank you, Councillors. And with that, I'll entertain a motion for adjournment.

2230
03:25:30,670 --> 03:25:38,190
So moved second. Thank you, counselors. All right. All in favor. Hi. All right. God bless and Godspeed.