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regular meeting of the Windsor High City
Council.

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Susan Serious here. Jones here. Fletcher
Barry

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» here.
>> Uh Terresa Arms

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» here.
>> James

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[clears throat]

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to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» Thank you. Approval of the agenda.
>> So moved.

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» Second.
>> Call.

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» Susan Skiris.
>> Yes.

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» Joseph Jones.
>> Yes.

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» Fletcher Barry.
>> Yes.

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» Theresa Harms.
>> Yes.

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» Item three, public forum. This time set
aside to comments from the public on

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topics of city business other than those
listed on the agenda. My action may be

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taken. Please come to the podium. State
your name

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» and address for the record and keep your
comments to no more than 5 minutes.

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» No public item four, consent agenda.
>> Move to approve.

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» Second.
>> Roll call.

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» Susan Series.
>> Yes.

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» Joseph Jones.
>> Yes.

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» Fletcher Berry.
>> Yes.

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» Lauren Campbell.
>> Yes.

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» Yes.
>> 5A. discussion of FY26 year-end

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financials.
>> Michelle and I are going to tag team

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this one. I would note that there is a
uh an overview of SF 2472 in the packet

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as well. Our intent isn't to actually go
through that since we have a lengthy

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agenda here tonight unless otherwise
requested. Um but it is good reference

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point for just kind of outlining the
impacts of the current property tax bill

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as well. U I'll let Michelle kick things
off,

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» I guess. please.

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I
>> think it's on. Uh Michelle Swisser, uh

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finance director. Um just going to go
over the year and financials. Um I don't

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have the f um the um AFR quite done yet,
but um that'll be at the next council

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meeting, but um Adam and I just thought
it would made sense to get you guys an

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update um since we have so many things
going on with the budget.

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Um overall cash uh we actually increased
from 12.44 million um at end of FY25 to

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13.92 million at end of FY26 which is an
11.9% increase. The primary driver of

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this is is our local option sales tax
and to a smaller extent earned interest

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but the earned interest actually wasn't
in the general fund. It was in our other

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funds um construction um streets garbage
storm water those kinds of things.

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Um some the chart actually gives us some
fund balance comparisons. Um I don't

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want to necessarily go through all of
these unless you guys have a question

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about them. Um the big one, the general
fund, we did actually have a net change

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of 84,981.
Uh this was driven, this is a deficit

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driven by operating expenses. Um that
increased and then interest revenue did

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decrease from the previous year.
um road use tax fund went up quite a

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bit, but that was actually a transfer
from the 73rd Street project because we

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transferred TIFF funds that were
received in the 73rd Street project and

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then we transferred them we received se
TIF funds in the 73rd Street project. So

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then we transferred road use tax we had
transferred previously back to the road

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use tax fund. Um the employee benefits
fund was the spend down. Uh the TIFF

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fund is actually up, but that's um for
future TIFF projects and debt service.

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Um the future streets project fund, we
did add 1,30,246.

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This was a transfer from lost and then
we did close out quite a few street

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projects.
Uh the equipment revolving fund actually

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did decrease by 211,000, but that was to
buy the new plow truck and the police

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cruiser. And then the stormwater fund.
Uh there was planned spending on uh

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storm water projects.
Any questions about any of that?

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Michelle, just real quick based on your
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where you think we should be for each
one of those things. Do you feel like

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we're on par or do you have any concerns
that anything isn't where it should or

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needs to be based on our projections
going into the next fiscal year?

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» I think we're right on track. Um I do
think I mean when you look at the

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reserves that are needed right below
that I do go into how what the reserves

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are. We're actually over um our 25%
limit by 377,000 in our general fund.

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And then uh and we're still below the
35% cap because there is that new cap

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that we have to be within. Um so I think
we're we're good in our general fund um

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having that kind 1.5 million in
reserves. uh we only need to have 1.1

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million. And then the other fund that um
doesn't actually have a state cap or any

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sort of limit even within our own um
policies, but the road use tax fund

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reserves I like to keep it at 20 at
least 25%.

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Which would only be $269,000.
But the current um the current reserves

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in there is 1,77,000.
So, we're over our cap, our 25% cap by

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$975,000.
So, there are definitely road use tax

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funds,
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intended for future capital improvement
projects over the next 5 years.

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» Absolutely.
Any questions about that?

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Um, we'll go to the next one, the next
slide or the next chart, I guess. Um,

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the FY25 and FY26 actual expenses.
And I'll just pull a few of these. um

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comparisons. I think when you look at
the totals in the general fund, um we're

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actually at a 6.53%
decrease. And this was due to us really

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trying our hardest to find those cuts
that we could make that w wouldn't

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affect really especially people. It
wouldn't affect employees um meaning the

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number of employees.
>> Just to make sure I understand. So that

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was in fiscal year 26 or as we look to
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» In fiscal year 26 we actually went okay
we had um between 25 and 26.53%

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decrease.
>> I just want to thank you.

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» Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Um there's some
there's a few things. I mean we in in

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like say police we did go up a little
bit but we had a 6% union wage increase.

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Um Westcom increases the start of the
CIT program. Um,

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uh, ambulance reflects the union step
wage increases. Uh, building

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inspections, that one is skews, skews
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wild because of the construction
activity that decreased because of the

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Windsor. So, that one went down by 65%.
Um, and the library looks really skewed

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as well. 70% um, change, 70% increase.
Well, there was an FY25 payment made in

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FY26, so that's why that skews that.
Um, any questions on any of those?

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Anybody have any that they want to
discuss specifically?

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» Just know we do break out separately the
transfers out in the economic

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development fund. Those are kind of
weird operating budget ones and those do

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swing wildly from year to year. Uh so
that first subtotal is kind of where you

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sit at operationally and then uh
>> below that are those two additional line

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items that are a little bit different.
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that.
>> And the special events that shows the

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12.93% increase. That's because of the
fundraising. So it's not really an

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increase. It's just
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intended to be spent in fiscal year 26.
So, it appears to be an increase, but

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there is a revenue offset from the
previous year that sits in the reserve

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fund.
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determined a while back that that's how
that was going to work.

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In the non- capital funds, um we had a
decrease of 1.92% in the road use tax, a

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little bit of an increase in street
lights, snow removal, we had an

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increase, forestry went down, uh and
benefits went up by 21%. But that can be

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um attributed to um in FY25 we had costs
that were um allocated in different

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funds and then FY26 we put everything
back into the employee benefits fund so

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that we could actually get a better
handle on where we were and what we were

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spending. So that's what that is. Grand
total overall reduction in expenses

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2.16%.

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Um, and the next one, the next chart is
the FY26 and 27 budgeted expenses.

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And this just gives a comparison what we
budgeted in FY26, what we budgeted in

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FY27.
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most of them have a decrease. Uh,
there's a few. Uh, animal control went

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up by 10% which is actually $500. So,
that one

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» very small uh percentages. I love that
about them. uh housing and urban

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renewal. This one does go up by 300% but
that is because of the FY27

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by annual trust fund application that we
um we and then actually pay into

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administration fees.
Um let's see that subtotal actually then

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year-over-year change um 8.86% decrease
And then the actual total when you take

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in economic development uh 6.29%
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» And and just want to reinforce I guess
some of what you're seeing here is the

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multi-year intent to really bring our
budgeted expenses in line with our

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actual expenses. It it becomes difficult
just because of swings across

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departments. But we feel the need to try
to reflect uh the actual expenses as

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closely as possible so that as we start
uh making adjustments in the coming year

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coming years um we have a better idea of
what our true expenditures will be and

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then also on the revenue side going
forward as well trying to really project

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as accurately as possible what our
revenues are going to be and that may

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mean more budget amendments going
forward.

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» Yeah,
>> I think in years past we've done zero or

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one kind of an end of the year one. Uh
but as we try to get tighter on these um

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expenses and the revenues uh
particularly on the expense side uh we

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will need to adjust those uh when
unexpected expenses show up uh and

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there's potential overages in specific
funds. Is that fair to say?

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» Yeah. So we'll try to do that quarter
quarterly now

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» if we need to.
>> The other big thing to keep an eye out

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here is on the police side um you see a
decrease there that 8.04% 04% that

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reflects that tighter budgeting. But
there's also in this budget for fiscal

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year 27 uh the 13th sworn position
that's not currently filled and the

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historical overtime amounts that would
reflect back filling positions or shifts

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uh when somebody's on PTO training or
otherwise. So, there'll still be an

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overtime element uh but it will not be
to the extent of that historical

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overtime. If the current model being
used, which will be reviewed at the next

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city council meeting stays in place,
you'd expect to see a year-over-year

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change beyond that uh 8% reduction under
the current operational model as it

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stands today.
>> So, just so I I make sure that I

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understand. So that current in PD for
example that 8% currently reflects the

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um it doesn't in that 8% includes
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» right so that is budgeted even with that
that uh reduction of 8%. Okay I just

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make sure I un I heard that right. Thank
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Any

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other questions on the budgeted
expenses?

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» I guess I'd also just note on the
administration side as well, you see a

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significant decrease. Some of that is
again trying to allocate allocate

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expenses uh more closely to where
they're being incurred. Uh for example,

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our deputy city clerk spends about 30%
of his time on the CEC. And so we're

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trying to make sure that we're
adequately reflecting where staff time

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is spent on specific subd departments uh
so that we get a clearer picture of

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what's driving those costs. And so
that's one example as well as allocating

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uh engineering expenses to capital
improvement projects more tightly as

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well driving some of that decrease in
administrative related costs.

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All right,
you take

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» Yeah. Uh, looking at the next page here,
fiscal year 27 general fund operation

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changes. Uh, these are just primarily
changes that were talked about at the

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start of this fiscal year uh or during
the start of the budgeting for the

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current fiscal year here. Again, uh
you'll see some changes potentially

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between budget and actual expenses on
the PD side based off of the uh the

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trial that's occurring right now. Um
other than that it's primarily a list of

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uh things that have been implemented as
part of this budget year. Uh the PD is

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also uh planning to move over towards
laser fish uh for their PED data

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management. Uh that's what we use at
city hall as well. Uh various other PD

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departments across the metro use laser
fish and have good experience with it.

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And as our dispatch system has changed
over to the cloud. uh there's some

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systems that are intertwined with our
current system that uh are getting out

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of date and moving to laser fusion will
save us money and create some

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efficiencies there. So I applaud uh PD
on on moving forward with that and we'll

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probably see that change over in the
next couple of months is my guess as we

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start to stand that up. Uh otherwise
just also note we completed the airport

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funding and the dart supplemental
funding in last fiscal year as well. So

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you see some reductions in expenses
associated with um the end of those

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commit funding commitments.
Uh and then finally uh we'll expect to

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have an ad hoc benefits committee
meeting uh coming up here and then some

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recommendations coming out of that which
depending on the timing of the

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implementation would create some
additional savings potentially as well

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on both the general fund and the special
revenues fund.

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» Can I ask a question? Um, so the laser
fish for the PD, will we have to pay

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like we did a part-time or we had
somebody come in to kind of use to do

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all the documents because there were so
many. Is that something that we're going

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to have to do? So, is that I see that
there's like the part-time elimination

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of part-time staff for that and then the
anticipated move. The the difference

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between these two is that um the
movement of data at the city hall side

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was from physical papers to laser fech.
The movement of the data on the PD side

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is going to be from one digital platform
to a different digital platform, one

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which we already subscribed to and have
no cost structure change other than

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building out the correct system to be
able to transfer that data and then

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transfer in new data as efficiently as
possible. Is that fairly stated, Adam?

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» Yeah. So it's something that we can take
care of in-house and it won't cause

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» other than the co initial cost with the
laser fee subcontractor to create the

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system that will transfer the data over
to us and allow us to upload new data to

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it. Yes.

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» Uh and then again uh you've seen some of
that reduction in expenses reflects the

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effort to better align budgeted expenses
with actual expenses year-over-year. And

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you'll see some of that effort on the
revenue side as well in this coming

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fiscal year 28.

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Moving on to fiscal year 28. Uh so
again, we've had House File 718 into

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effect for a couple of years here and
the effects of 27 uh excuse me, Senate

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File 2472 really start in fiscal year 28
uh and then sort of stair step uh pro

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providing some flexibility for cities up
through fiscal year 31. uh and then from

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fiscal year 28 and thereafter uh the 2%
uh revenue uh growth cap is in place uh

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for any existing valuation.
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now is not an immediate crisis, but it
does create some long-term uh structural

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constraints for the city. Uh and we do
have that sort of a three or four year

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window to here begin addressing some of
those structural changes that are going

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to be needed. uh and that's part of what
our strategic planning uh efforts here

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that we'll talk about later are intended
to help address

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the fiscal year 28 then constraints that
occur are uh primarily the 10% homestead

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exemption uh that'll apply to about
1,250 homes in Windsor Heights. Uh that

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does reduce taxable valuation uh from a
preliminary estimate of $17 million. uh

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and there are a number of assumptions
kind of built into this entire uh staff

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report going forward. We're continuing
to learn information from the state and

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the county and from our financial
adviserss, but uh I think from a

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broad spectrum I think these numbers are
relatively accurate. um that would be a

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reduction. Then it equates to about
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And then the state backfilling of that
historic homestead tax credit, which is

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the $4,850,
uh ceases over the course of three

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years.
the state backfill into the two-tiered

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assessment limitation that was created a
few years back. That's the first

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$150,000 of assessed value on commercial
taxes gets rolled back to the

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residential rate. That backfill is
eliminated in fiscal year 28. Uh it

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looks like the impact of that on the
general fund would be about $15,000 in

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fiscal year 28.
Uh and then looking forward, the

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multifamily assessment class, which was
eliminated several years back, is

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reintroduced. Uh and that'll be at the
roll back rate um of the single family

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for fiscal year 28. But in 29, it'll
move to the single family roll back plus

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3%. And then it'll sit at after fiscal
year 30 at single family roll back plus

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6% thereafter. Uh that should equate to
about $20,000 in additional revenue

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associated with the multifamily
assessment. in Windsor Heights, but it

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does not impact fiscal year 28.
Uh so the primary challenge is how we

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want to address the homestead exemption
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Uh the staff recommendation or my
recommendation is that there is a

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release of uh corresponding TIFF
valuation. Uh that would balance out

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that revenue reduction in the general
fund and instead reduce it out of the

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TIF valuation which we have some more
flexibility and bandwidth currently. Uh

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we're still working with Tiana on the
specifics of what that looks like for

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our CIP in the long term. Uh but it does
look like we have enough bandwidth to be

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able to overcome that $17 million
reduction in fiscal year 28 uh with that

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release and that would help balance out
the general fund revenues without an

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increase in the general fund rate um for
fiscal year 28. uh if there was no TIFF

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release and the desire was to keep
revenue flat, uh that would be about a

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55 cent revenue or 55 cent levy increase
in the general fund. Uh and then just as

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a reminder for SF 2472, cities are
granted some flexibility on what their

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levy rates are up till fiscal year 31.
Uh so it can go above and beyond that

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810 until fiscal year 31. We're
currently above 810 today and I'd be I'd

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have some hesitations about further
increasing that levy knowing that in

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fiscal year 31 there'd be a requirement
to reduce it. Uh so that's kind of an

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underlying assumption built into this
and welcome feedback over the next

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couple of months on uh whether that tiff
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that isn't going to occur then we'd
probably need to incorporate that into

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our strategic planning conversations
going forward. But again, it appears we

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can release that 24%
30% worth of tiff valuation in fiscal

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year 28 uh and navigate that impact on
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immediate future.
Uh and then focus on general fund

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operations over the course of the next
few years and structural changes there.

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Uh beyond that, there is uh that 2%
revenue growth cap limitation that goes

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into effect next year. uh just because
of Windsor Heights uh build out and lack

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of new developments opportunities, we'd
expect to see I think new valuation

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increases uh be fairly nominal going
forward other than redevelopment

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efforts. Uh and so new new valuation is
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existing valuation would move every
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Uh and then on years that we're not
seeing reevaluation other than remodels

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uh or other changes to existing
households, you could expect to see a

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fairly nominal increase in valuation on
those years. Uh which would likely

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averaged out to be a 0 or 1%
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would suspect, uh going forward for
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Uh we'll be talking about 73rd Street
South reconstruction later today as well

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and some options there. that as a
reminder is a TIFF funded project

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primarily along with some STBG funds
that the city has been awarded and of

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course we've been uh making efforts on
the uh build grant as well for potential

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funding of that project there. Uh but as
we work through budget implications for

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fiscal year 28 and beyond, uh
incorporating in the plans for

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reconstruction of 73rd Street South and
fiscal year 30 uh becomes important

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context as uh for tiff uh costs going uh
going forward as well. And so better

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understanding the engineering, the
timing and the total cost structure to

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the city for that project uh becomes
very important just because uh the

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limitations that we may impose on
ourselves from a tiff perspective.

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Uh a few other things that are in the
works uh then is uh we have the current

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changes at the PD uh that are under
trial. Uh we'll have the results of the

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Windsor Heights Clive Urbanddale and
Walke Fire Department study uh here

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within the next month or so uh and be
presenting that to city officials uh on

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potential options for efficiencies
there. Uh and any takeaways from that

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study of course are subject to the uh
the decisions of multiple city councils

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uh that are participating in that in
that study going forward.

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Looking forward to fiscal year 29
through 31. uh will continue to face

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that 2% revenue cap uh increase. And
then in fiscal year 31, the requirement

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to move the consolidated general fund
levy down from 831 where it currently

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sits to 810 uh will need to take place
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And that 21 cent reduction in the levy
equates to about 50 to $60,000 in

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general funds.
Uh so again just want to mention uh you

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know we've got several years to kind of
deal with the operational changes that

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the property tax bill are likely to
create uh for the city. Uh we have

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significant reserves uh and some
structural changes that are being

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discussed and already in the works. Uh
but we have some time to to kind of work

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through that uh and with that runway and
do so thoughtfully and implement those

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necessary changes over the next few
years. The impacts of these property

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bills I think are uh pretty significant
to a lot of different cities in the

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metro. Um it depends in part based off
of the percentage of valuation that is

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residential of which we are heavy on. uh
how much new valuation is coming online

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of which we have a limited amount uh
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infrastructure needs of a city the
public service uh delivery expectations

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uh and what the multifamily and
industrial uh property tax uh base is as

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well because those are less impacted by
uh the budget changes than residential

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properties
uh beyond the general fund because this

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was really intended to focus primarily
on the general fund uh we've talked

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about kind where we sit at from reserves
on the road use tax perspective. Uh

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we're also sitting in a healthy position
with our storm water fund. Uh the

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special revenues fund. Um there are a
few changes that have occurred there

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from the city contributions rates for
protective classes in the last year. Uh

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we also have some changes um that are
proposed potentially by the benefits

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committee. Uh and then the corresponding
release of the tiff valuation would also

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help support uh balancing the the
special revenues fund without any

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increases as well.
lost revenue uh which is used primarily

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to fund capital infrastructure projects
in Windsor Heights uh in equipment

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purposes equipment purchases and the CC
supplemental operations uh continues to

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incrementally grow and increase uh and
it appears like it's in a good position

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combined to continue to fund our CIP
projects over the next 5 years uh more

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or less as planned.

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So, a lot of information there. Uh, but
looking at what's next is really the

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strategic planning efforts that'll
inform those objectives uh for

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priorities uh on an operational side and
those structural changes that uh we want

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to pursue going forward.
Uh and then over the next coming months,

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I think we'll continue to better
understand what the impacts are from uh

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staff members at the state and at the
county uh and be able to put a finer

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point on uh what those constraints and
the dollar amounts of revenues uh will

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be for fiscal year 28 and going forward.
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really not looking for any specific
feedback on this tonight. Just really

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wanted to kind of bring council up to
speed on the information that we

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currently have and what we're seeing
from a numbers perspective, but open to

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ask any questions. We'll try to either
provide an answer tonight or uh bookmark

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that to do some more research on and
give you an answer in the future.

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» No questions.
>> I was just going to say thanks for

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putting this together. I think it's very
helpful. gives a really nice landscape

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and um as we go into our strategic
planning, our comprehensive report, our

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fiscal year 28 budgeting, it really
gives a clearer lens um of what we need

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to be thinking about. So, thank you for
thank you both for your work on that.

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» Very well laid out, easy to read. So,
appreciate that.

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» Anything else? That's all that I have.
>> All right. Uh 5B, discussion of 73rd

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Street South reconstruction plans.

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» Not long.

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» Like what? Another week.
>> What's that?

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» We're another week and we're all done.
>> Yeah, this is a different one.

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» Oh, this isn't [laughter]
>> so what comes next.

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» Yeah, Justin's bold neck. Uh what we
have in front of you just a quick thing

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on this staff report is um since we
started design we had a little change

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coming up with the potential railroad
>> um aspect here.

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» Um so just to remind everyone the be the
first concept was shifting everything to

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get that sidewalk in. Well now we have a
little bit of a different option

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potentially coming up. So just kind of
um before you are the two options

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preliminary layouts of one we have
showing with the sidewalk and two

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utilizing the the potential abandonment
of the rail line. Right. So um we're

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kind of at a point here we've kind of
waited for preliminary design has been

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stopped for a while just because of well
one we're a little ways out yet but um

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two dealing with the build grant and
stuff like that. So, we're getting to

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the point now where we have to kind of
figure out where we're going to go, if

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we're going to meet these deadlines for
2030 and whatnot. So, um before he was

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just a staff report, uh there's two
alternatives in there, like I said,

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along with the concept for those build
addited added options, I guess. Um,

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so really not to read everything off
here, we're just kind of looking for

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council's somewhat direct or a direction
on whether we stay with the sidewalk

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design as we had on the original
goaround and we've been planning for a

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while now or kind of offshooting to the
the trail which is is a a somewhat of a

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big design but not necessarily a whole
change. It just gives us a different

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options. Um,
>> and this would be for preliminary

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design. You know, could shift if the
railroad rightaway is not available,

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then we would shift back to the
sidewalk. If kind of the engineering

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work was geared towards the the trail,
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» yeah, the with with the preliminary
design moving forward a little bit more.

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It helps us hone in on those actual
costs of the project. Right. Right now,

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we're just high level with just kind of
what you see with line work and not

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actually sitting down with grading and
what all has to go on. So a lot of our

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budget estimates were estimates at that,
right? So moving in farther in design

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helps us kind of hone in on what those
true cost will be.

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» And a better understanding of those true
costs um will help us with the tiff

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projections going forward of of what we
need to retain within our tax increment

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district as well to be able to fund this
plus existing debt obligations that are

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being paid out of tiff such as
University AB and 73rd Street North. uh

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and then incorporate the future CIP
projects that may have TIFF funding

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associated with it as well. But there's
still the question of whether there's a

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build grant, whether there's additional
STBG funds that might be awarded to the

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project. Um but over the course of the
next couple years, we need to bring that

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together to better understand that
financial picture um towards fiscal year

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» because with these with this comes
federal money. So the process of design

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and the length of it takes years instead
of a year. So and we're getting there.

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Time's flying, right? School starts soon
and we're we'll be in fiscal year 20

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here shortly. So
>> nth grade orientation today.

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» Yep.

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» So the the staff recommendation is to
move forward with at least conceptually

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alternative one which is the trail
design. uh that would potentially

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eliminate reworking of that westmost
lane and the on-ramp and the on-ramp

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off-ramp of the DOT which is DOT
property and they can reconstruct that

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on a timeline that they find
appropriate. Um but the estimate is

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maybe that would save approximately
$350,000.

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Um that would be refined over time.
whether grants for the trail might

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become available um uh and you know just
additional things learned from

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underground conditions and and whatnot
through engineering. Uh but it would

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provide probably the best pedestrian
access um for folks on 73rd Street, but

418
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,559
it is subject to again the potential
railroad abandonment. conversations with

419
00:31:54,799 --> 00:32:01,760
Clive about where that connectivity
point would be for the trail. Uh if it

420
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:07,120
runs directly alongside 73rd Street
because they have existing trail kind of

421
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:10,399
on the west side of uh of 73rd Street,
they may not need portions of the

422
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:13,679
railroad right away or the railroad
property if it becomes available. And so

423
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:18,320
where's that connection point? It
probably isn't where it crosses the road

424
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:23,039
today. Uh but it would need to be
determined where that best safest

425
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:29,480
location would be to do that. Um whether
that's at the bridge of Walmart or the

426
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,480
Don Steel Bridge or or elsewhere.

427
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:37,760
» Have we had any conversations with Clyde
to see like just fill them out or

428
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,919
» I think the question is a little less
pressing for them right now just because

429
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:46,080
there's a lot of uncertainty on whether
um the railroad will be acquired. Uh so

430
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:49,039
we've had conversations about what it
might look like from them, but I think

431
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:52,799
they're internally contemplating from
what I understand. But if this is kind

432
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:56,720
of the option that we want to move
towards preliminarily, then I think we

433
00:32:54,799 --> 00:33:00,840
would engage a lot deeper with them on
what that might look like going forward.

434
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:12,880
» I think getting the DOT, not having to
deal with the DOT would be amazing and

435
00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:20,320
not have to try to reconfigure that
would be good. And then um you know the

436
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:24,320
10-ft shared use um the the trail. I
think that would be a good since we're

437
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:28,559
trying to push people to various
different cities, not just Windsor

438
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:33,360
Heights, but you know promoting um all
the businesses, all the the trails. I

439
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:42,120
think that would be
probably the best in my opinion the best

440
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:42,120
if we can pull it off.

441
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,440
And we do have the NO here as well. I
don't know if you have any further

442
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,399
comments on that. Uh or part of the
conversation is also going to be what

443
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:54,880
our intentions might be going forward
for the build grant. We could kind of

444
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:58,320
put that as question number two. Uh but
depending on the perspective of where we

445
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:03,120
want to go with for the preliminary
design would also impact how we want to

446
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:08,159
pursue or if we want to pursue a build
grant going forward as well. Um, I could

447
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:13,919
dive into that unless there's more
comments on kind of the two options,

448
00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:18,320
alternative one or the original design.
>> Does the NPO have a thought on that?

449
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:23,119
Governor, do you have an opinion or
>> I'll speak? Yeah. Governor Olson's

450
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:28,079
» Lauren's online so you got to come up
here. Sorry.

451
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:30,879
» Governor Olson's MO. I think the staff
recommendation makes a lot of sense

452
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:35,119
given the context of where we are right
now. Um, I do think the context of the

453
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:39,040
railroad is changing. Uh, for what it's
worth, we feel positive about that.

454
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,800
Won't go too much into detail, but we're
feeling pretty positive that that is the

455
00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:46,800
likely outcome that the region will end
up with that. Um, and also the context

456
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,159
that you talked about in your financial
report, the finances have changed and

457
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:54,800
some of your partners that were involved
before may not be able to participate

458
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:58,560
going forward. Um, that being said, you
would still have a back pocket option of

459
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,079
doing the build grant. Uh the build
grant that was put in this year was a

460
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:06,400
project of merit and that has
significance because you could put it in

461
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:10,640
again in the next cycle and be already
past the first cut. You would already be

462
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:14,000
front of the line. So I wouldn't throw
that option out the window right away.

463
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,520
Um but I think it's a very reasonable
position to put it in your back pocket

464
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:22,280
and start down this other path because
the contact is kind of pointing in that

465
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,280
direction.

466
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,880
You also put in a very competitive grant
application for service transportation

467
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,240
block grant funding this year. So, thank
you.

468
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:37,280
» Thanks, Conor.
>> And we have not had our DOT feedback

469
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:41,440
session on the build grant yet. Uh we
have been contacted to schedule one and

470
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:45,359
we've returned with some options. Um
we'd expect that to occur probably in

471
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,720
August hopefully.
>> Um

472
00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:50,320
» early September.
>> Early September. Um so that will also

473
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:56,839
probably govern the decision on how we
want to respond to build uh for the

474
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,839
upcoming application cycle as well.

475
00:35:57,359 --> 00:36:04,400
Um, no. I would just say I mean as a
person who uses the trails, biking,

476
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:11,359
walking, running, whatever I'm u
participating in, no emotos though. Um,

477
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,640
that um that's this has always been a
vision, a dream. I think Gunnar, we've

478
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:19,520
talked about this many times about how
we'd love to see that railroad be

479
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:25,599
transition into trail. So, I think that
would be like if if it's a possibility,

480
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:28,960
I think it makes the most sense.
I agree.

481
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,760
And we also know what we should get you
for a holiday gift.

482
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,480
» Well, chip in. [laughter]
>> I'm not saying I don't have them. I'm

483
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:43,599
saying
there's no trail riding.

484
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:46,720
» Yeah, makes sense.
>> You have your direction?

485
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,640
» I believe. So, we will uh continue to
move forward with design on alternative

486
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:54,640
one and uh report back to council once
we've had our DOT feedback session with

487
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,760
a recommendation on how and whether to
pursue uh build going forward.

488
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,760
» Cool.
>> Okay.

489
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:07,359
All right. Uh 5C, [clears throat]
consideration of resolution number

490
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:13,359
202656,
a resolution approving a professional

491
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:18,240
services agreement with Bolton and Mink
for the 2026 CDBG grant application.

492
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:21,760
» So move
>> second

493
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:26,720
» AJ
some background Justin.

494
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:32,240
» Sure. Um for this grant award, uh just
going run some background. So Pulk

495
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:36,160
County has um just over 2.5 million
awarded nine eligible cities for this

496
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:40,880
project or for this funding source,
right? So meeting staff meeting

497
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:46,079
together, we kind of brought up thought
of three different potential projects.

498
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:50,320
Uh one was 67th Street um reconstruction
from University Avenue to School Street.

499
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:56,800
The second one was Kobe Park storm sewer
improvements and the third um just some

500
00:37:53,280 --> 00:38:05,280
facade improvements. So with with the
these funds there are is really tied to

501
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:11,920
LMI. Um with that we have to do an LMI
survey for these particular areas um to

502
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:16,800
figure out if if these if the locations
are eligible for that. Right? So so

503
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:21,040
there's two kind of aspects to the the
the professional agreement. One was to

504
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:27,280
conduct LMI survey and then two if you
qualified to move ahead. Um so if we

505
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:32,079
didn't qualify, if a city didn't qualify
for the LMI seller survey, we would do

506
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:37,680
an application. So um also part of this
is depending upon which project we

507
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:41,200
choose and then the next year it could
choose another project, right? Some of

508
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:45,520
those LMI surveys could be used again
depending upon where we're at. Um then

509
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:50,640
the community might have to supplement
um depends upon which one we choose

510
00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:55,359
going forward but um the hope is to use
a lot of it yet if it qualifi again if

511
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,119
it qualifies. So unfortunately right now
we don't know if it qualifies. So the

512
00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:04,000
first step like I said is to do the LMI
study for that part. So

513
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:08,880
» just a little bit more background then
is um I think our sense is that 67th

514
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:15,280
Street Reconstruction is probably the
best opportunity to qualify for the LMI

515
00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:19,839
study. Uh and if that one does qualify
then the KBY Park storm sewer project

516
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:23,440
which is a project that impacts a a
broad area. It's not just for the park.

517
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:27,920
It a lot of storm sewer in the community
flows through that. Uh and then same

518
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:33,119
with the facade improvement, which would
be uh kind of that 65th to 66th

519
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:38,320
University Avenue corridor of of
buildings, three different property

520
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:43,599
owners. Um if the 67th Street one came
back positive, uh P Countyy's indicated

521
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:48,160
multiple submissions are encouraged
because we're not abundantly clear on

522
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:53,599
where preferences might be for types of
projects. It might be beneficial to to

523
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:58,960
submit more than one. Uh but the
application process is al also fairly

524
00:39:56,079 --> 00:40:05,599
indepth uh and not inexpensive to go
through. So 67 street is probably the

525
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:09,280
easiest path for us. But if that survey
comes back, we may even come back with a

526
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:14,320
suggestion that we apply for more than
one this year uh before the pool of

527
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:20,240
eligible cities potentially increases,
which we understand it might as well.

528
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:25,599
» Yes. So, what I have in front of you
just for one project, like I said, the

529
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:29,440
next one would be roughly the same,
maybe a little cheaper just due to the

530
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:33,280
extent of the LMI survey, which is
roughly around 5,500 bucks probably to

531
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:37,440
to do that. Depends upon if everyone
participates is a big key. So, a lot of

532
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,079
door knocking and making sure people
actually take the survey. So,

533
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:44,640
» I was just going to ask, how are we
going to promote that? How are we going

534
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:48,800
to get the the most? Because like if I
get something in the mail, it's kind of

535
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:52,079
a 50/50 shot if I'm going to actually
either be it or do something about it.

536
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:56,160
» A lot of it going to be door knocking
because you're you're targeting specific

537
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,760
areas, right? You're not widely
broadcasting it through the community.

538
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:04,480
So, a lot of door knocking and hopefully
people answer and take the

539
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,000
» anonymous
>> and inform them why we're why we're

540
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,359
making the request. so that we can
receive grant funds for a project that

541
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,720
they hopefully are supportive of
reconstruction of their street or other

542
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:19,040
improvements in the community
>> and hit a certain percentage of people

543
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:24,480
to actually take the survey. So
otherwise it goes against it.

544
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,760
» I'm a good door knocker.
Happy to help.

545
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:32,560
» Perfect.
>> Um I I like the idea of 67th Street

546
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:38,680
first being the priority then part I
like the the three that we've laid out

547
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,680
in that priority order.

548
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,440
I agree.

549
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:55,000
» All right. Do we need a vote on that
then? Yep. Okay.

550
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:55,000
» Are there further questions, comments?

551
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,800
Roll call.
>> Susan Spears. Yes.

552
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,720
» Joseph Jones, yes. Fletcher Barry, yes.
Lauren Campbell,

553
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,520
» yes.
>> Yes.

554
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:15,280
Item D, uh, consideration of resolution
number 202657, a resolution authorizing

555
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:19,359
withdrawal from the agreement from the
suburban emergency response team, CERT.

556
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:24,960
AJ,
>> yes. Uh, the city rejoined Cert in early

557
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,760
2025.
Uh, we had an officer at the time was

558
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:33,200
interested in participating, Officer
Jax. Uh, our police uh, patrol schedule

559
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:39,200
uh, it goes through various cycles and
there's been some changes to that. uh

560
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:43,760
starting in July and that new schedule
uh does not work well with the training

561
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:48,160
schedule for C and officers Jax has also
had some life changes uh and so at this

562
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:53,839
point we're not aware of any other
officers that are interested in being a

563
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:57,920
member of C and before the renewal
period and that fee associated with it

564
00:42:55,839 --> 00:43:03,119
in September uh our recommendation would
be go ahead and withdraw from that 280

565
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:09,200
here today uh and in the future uh
depending on officer interest funding

566
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:13,040
availability and uh corresponding
schedules that work to be a member of

567
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:17,839
CERT. Uh it could be reconsidered in the
future. Uh but uh as it stands today uh

568
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,040
we've discussed with finance committee
uh they seem supportive of that. Uh we

569
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,920
didn't have time to bring it in front of
the public safety committee prior to

570
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:28,880
this meeting. Uh but I think the intent
is to have some discussion with them uh

571
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,240
at their next meeting as well. Uh but
the uh the request here tonight is to go

572
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:36,800
ahead and withdraw from that for the
time being. uh and then it can be

573
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:41,839
reevaluated going forward uh if officer
interest and council interest is uh

574
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:45,359
there for the future. Uh there are some
other organizations that we have

575
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:50,319
agreements with that provide similar
similar services uh as so we do retain

576
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:56,720
the ability to respond
uh for large tactical reasons uh without

577
00:43:53,520 --> 00:44:01,560
being a member of C. Uh, Chief Roth is
here to answer your questions and I can

578
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,560
as well

579
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:11,280
» questions.
>> I guess I'm not opposed from withdrawing

580
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:16,160
from from the the CERT. I understand
staffing and and scheduling challenges.

581
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:21,680
Um, I just want to make sure that I
understand how these challenges led to

582
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:27,119
the conclusion that leaving CERT is the
best operational decision for us. Um, I

583
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:31,440
just think we need to clearly understand
what the problem is that we're solving,

584
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:35,920
what we'll gain, what we give up, um,
and what replaces the resources, which

585
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:42,800
we've kind of already written out here.
But, um, just want to make sure that we

586
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:46,880
re remain consistent in how we evaluate
our regional partnerships. If we're

587
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:50,880
saying that another agency can provide a
specialized service when we need it,

588
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:56,560
then we need to be willing to apply that
same reasoning consistently when we

589
00:44:53,599 --> 00:45:00,240
evaluate other regional programs. So,
this isn't about one program versus

590
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:06,720
another. It's about making sure we're
using the same standard and the same

591
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:14,000
logic when making these decisions. So,
again, not opposed to it. I I understand

592
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:19,760
scheduling changes. um things in life
change for for officers and if you don't

593
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:23,200
have anybody that is wanting to step up
there's not really anything you can do

594
00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:28,720
you don't really want to force that on
an officer but uh I just want to make

595
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:35,800
sure that we maintain our consistency on
how we evaluate this regional aspect and

596
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,800
approach.

597
00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:43,760
Did you say we rejoined in 25 implying
that we've already been a part and left?

598
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:49,200
» Uh I believe that's correct. The city's
been a member of either C or precursors

599
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:55,040
to C at various times in the past.
Metroar a precursor to C. So uh yeah

600
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:58,960
there is some history of this or similar
type organizations going back 15 20

601
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:04,560
years that the city's been member of. um
when we joined in 2025

602
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:09,960
uh I'm not sure when the LA was it maybe
seven or eight years since we'd been a

603
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,960
member of a similar type organization

604
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:22,880
we had an officer on Metro or Pete Roth
with the police department um we had an

605
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:26,880
officer on star metro star night when I
joined the department here and then

606
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:32,800
historically I believe we were always
metro star because we were dispatched

607
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:38,400
out of Pulk County. In 2021
or two, we switched over to Westcom and

608
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:45,200
there was a push to have u an officer
join which kind of is a Westcom agency

609
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:49,839
type of a of a of organization. Um, as
you know, the officer that was on Metro

610
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:54,880
Star left for another agency back in
September, October, I believe, of last

611
00:46:52,000 --> 00:47:00,160
year. So, there was no member that
expressed interest in joining that team.

612
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:04,160
uh as you know a tactical team has to
you have to meet certain qualifications

613
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:10,079
certain expectations which include a
physical agility test firearm scores uh

614
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:13,920
you have to commit to monthly training
and have some sort of mindset that you

615
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:20,000
commit also to some I believe there's
annual training as well or quarterly so

616
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:26,319
uh there is the officer assigned to had
asked to to resign his position uh we

617
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:32,160
talked about his supervisors and we
discussed it with him several times and

618
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:36,400
he was committed to that. So, we floated
it up the chain. Uh I don't want to have

619
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:40,960
an officer participate in this group if
they don't want to be there or can't be

620
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:44,880
there. And with all the other uh
concerns and challenges that we're we're

621
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:48,480
kind of working through now, it it was
uh easier for us just to withdraw at

622
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:52,400
this point. So, we don't have to we're
coming up on our membership fee, which

623
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,920
will be due here soon. So, we didn't
want to, you know, pay for that if we

624
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,359
didn't have anybody participating with
the group. So,

625
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,440
that answers your questions.
>> What What's the membership fee? How much

626
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,960
is it?
>> $900 a year.

627
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,680
» Okay.
>> And then we also paid for training. So,

628
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:11,280
there was about a $1,500 commitment from
last year, last fiscal year, but that

629
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:16,240
doesn't also include some training
ammunition that we also purchased, but

630
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:19,240
» $1,500.
>> Okay.

631
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:27,680
» Any other questions?
>> So, how does this work since it's going

632
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:33,440
in front of us here? If we and you can
sign the resolution, then it's going to

633
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:39,119
go to the public safety just for them to
agree with us or just for their input or

634
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:43,760
just for their knowledge or I guess I'm
just confused on the way it because

635
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,079
normally it's reversed. It goes to them
first and then it comes to us. So I'm

636
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:52,480
just
>> Yep. the request from the officer to uh

637
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:56,720
to no longer serve in that capacity came
recently and with the membership due

638
00:48:55,359 --> 00:49:00,400
coming uh it seemed important to at
least bring it forward uh here this

639
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,839
evening and then I think there's still
an opportunity to weigh in from a public

640
00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:08,559
safety committee standpoint on how we
want to treat uh membership of C or

641
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:11,839
similar type organizations going
forward. Uh there's nothing precluding

642
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:17,680
the city from rejoining if there's an
officer interested in schedules align uh

643
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:21,680
in agility test passed. Uh but as it
stands right now, we don't have an

644
00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:26,880
officer to participate in it and it
would seem imprudent to spend dollars on

645
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:31,200
a membership unless we know that we have
somebody that is able to fill that role

646
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,720
for us.
>> I do have a follow- on question from

647
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:39,200
Susan's question pertaining to
regionalism. Obviously, I'm going to

648
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:44,800
support us doing that at all costs. Is
there any benefit or drawback of paying

649
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:51,079
that membership fee and not have an
actual member join that team? I mean,

650
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,079
it's $900.

651
00:49:52,559 --> 00:50:01,040
I will leave that to council. Uh we also
pay MA we have a MAC agreement with the

652
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:08,400
city of De Moine which is um provides us
homeland security uh evidentiary ident

653
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:14,480
type of services. So Metroar has always
been able to help us if if needed. Uh

654
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:19,280
the state also has a tactical team DPS
does that's made up of their own um

655
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,480
troopers and agents and stuff. So
they're always also they're based out of

656
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:28,480
the De Moines area. So they're
available. Um I'm also Yeah, I would

657
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:32,880
also it's budgeted in our in our budget
this year. Uh part of that training cost

658
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:36,800
was split between all the member
agencies. It's kind of like Westcom

659
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:40,640
model. Each agency pays a portion of
that to to run it. Not not any a maybe

660
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:45,200
West De Mo Urbanddale could have their
own teams by themselves. But I believe

661
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:48,960
if I go back into the history,
Urbanddale and West De Mo were the two

662
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:54,000
kind of founding agencies because of
they just could not support a team on

663
00:50:51,920 --> 00:51:00,000
their own and kind of got into the
sharing model. So um it's $900. I know

664
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:04,319
that we still participate with with them
on other things too. So I mean I also

665
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:08,559
also don't like paying for something
that we're not participate, you know,

666
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:11,599
we're using either. So that
>> I guess I could leave the public safety

667
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:18,240
committee. We meet here in September on
the that third Thursday.

668
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:23,200
» So Cert has budgeted with us being a
part of it already.

669
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:27,119
» Well, the $900 just came out of our our
budget that in it's budgeted from last

670
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:31,119
year because our budget was submitted or
was turned in again back in December or

671
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:35,280
whatever it was last year. So this
request from the officer to resign only

672
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:38,000
came come came to us several weeks ago.
>> City has budgeted to be a member of C

673
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:43,000
for the coming fiscal year.
>> You're asking about

674
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,000
Certific

675
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:50,240
» is certing that from us.
>> Did they plan? Is it in their budget?

676
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:53,680
» Have they already planned based on us
being a part of it?

677
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:58,400
» That is a great question. The the cert
actually the C um chairperson or

678
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:02,000
director right now is Chief McCluskey
and I did have a chat with him about

679
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:06,480
about this last week and he did not say
anything about they they they need this

680
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:10,720
to support their ongoing activities.
They do have a a fund that they use. Now

681
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,160
all the equipment and training time is
all provided by the departments. They

682
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:19,839
don't pay for that. They use their
budget for training and and other

683
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:26,040
miscellaneous things. Uh it's not used
for personnel if that makes any sense.

684
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:26,040
So if that answers your

685
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:32,240
be in favor of the $900 spend. I think
it's part of being a team player. This

686
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:37,760
is something that's a Westcom. Um we're
part of that. Um,

687
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:42,079
and this is kind of just a personal
gripe. When searching C, it shows up

688
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:47,920
every agency that's part of it except
for ours. Um, so whether we remain or

689
00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:52,319
not, I think we need to be listed as a
agency on there, especially for paying

690
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:56,480
into it. So,
I don't know. I'm in favor of it. So,

691
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:00,079
» I believe Pulk City also is getting
someone on the the team as well, but

692
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:05,920
they're not also listed. the were the
two two younger or juniorous members of

693
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:10,960
that working of that team. So
>> I think I just start

694
00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:14,800
remaining the 280 in place. I I know
that we've had some budget challenges

695
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:19,119
that we're trying to save every penny
and uh I just wanted to get ahead of

696
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:22,240
this before the bill came. I'm all for
still being on and leaving it open, but

697
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,680
I I guess I'd like some council
direction on how to proceed with that.

698
00:53:23,839 --> 00:53:29,599
So
>> all right, council, what do you want to

699
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:31,680
do? Well, I actually have a Oh, go
ahead.

700
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,640
» I was say Lauren does have a she
messaged me that she has a comment.

701
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:39,920
» Lauren, go ahead.
>> I just wanted to add that uh I like the

702
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:43,839
idea of staying involved and and keeping
it front of mind for officer

703
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:48,640
development. I know that we don't always
have as much uh as many career growth

704
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:52,480
opportunities as some communities for
advancement and promotion. And so

705
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:59,200
thinking of like the stretch assignment
or the um additional um things like this

706
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:03,960
like mine that um are become development
opportunities for folks. Thanks.

707
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:11,520
» I also wanted some I I'm sorry just some
clarification. Um Chief, you mentioned

708
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:17,280
that we're also a member of MAC and
something with Homeland Security. So do

709
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:22,160
those provide all of the same services
that C provide? I mean the same types of

710
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:25,440
services. I'm confused by that. Can you
explain that?

711
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:30,160
» Again, the MAC was entered in before I
arrived. It's a it's a continuation a

712
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:35,920
continual 2080 and it does provide
access to a bomb squad. It provides us

713
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:39,920
access to a tactical team. And this is
just off the top of my head without

714
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:44,960
looking bringing up the 2080. It also
accesses investigative services in case

715
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:50,000
we have a you know major crime scene.
They would send over their ID unit to

716
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:54,640
help us. and uh and that just helps us
with the other things that we're not

717
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:57,839
able to to to support on our own. So, um
we just like to have an officer. It was

718
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,920
just nice for us to have an officer
involved in in the in the team so we

719
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,040
knew what was going on and gave us a
little bit of of a resource in the

720
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:11,240
department to kind of do a little
training with us to have that kind of

721
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:11,240
knowledge and expertise, too. So,

722
00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:14,640
» Okay. So, do we do we pay for the MAC
membership?

723
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:20,160
» We do.
>> Okay. How much is that?

724
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:22,640
I think it's 7,000, but I that's I want
to grab my computer.

725
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,599
» We pay you
>> city de mo,

726
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:30,800
» right?
>> So that's city of de mo. So is everybody

727
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:33,599
else regionally member of that too or
just us?

728
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:40,720
» Uh metroar. I don't know who actually is
a signer on the MAC. Uh but uh um it was

729
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:46,160
um something again prior to my to my
being here and we don't and have some of

730
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:52,480
those uh resources that the de mo offers
us uh like for investigative services

731
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:55,520
and bomb squad and does not have a bomb
squad.

732
00:55:53,280 --> 00:56:00,200
» Okay. Cert does everything else but the
>> they do they do a tactical response only

733
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:07,440
» 7,151
>> was that July one

734
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,680
» hit it July 10th
>> this year

735
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:21,520
» I guess I'd be interested in
understanding what are all the different

736
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:26,640
membership fees we pay what services we
get for each one of these

737
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:31,280
and then where we should be investing
our resources to get the all to get the

738
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:38,079
services that we need. So if we have
MAC, we have mine, we have C,

739
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:44,400
what else do we have?
>> Westcom, uh Animal Arl is our 911.

740
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:48,319
» I'm just I'm you say all the contracts
I'm

741
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:53,520
» No, in in this space what is I mean I I
see that as I understand what Westcom is

742
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:59,280
and what we get there. Um what these are
like services outside that are otherwise

743
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:04,720
supporting
or providing services that otherwise RPD

744
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:07,520
is not. Is that correct? Is that fair
way to say that

745
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:11,280
» that we don't we're not able to to do
ourselves. Yes.

746
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:16,319
» Okay. All right. So
Mac

747
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:20,960
» mine mine.
>> I off the top of my head that that that

748
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:26,319
sounds right.
So before we I I guess for me before I

749
00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:32,720
make a complete decision I just want to
know how much we're spending in each

750
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:42,720
group if there's parts that overlay why
they overlay if there's also did uh plan

751
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:49,359
on our $900 to make their budget go for
this next year because that's I don't I

752
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:56,480
mean $900 is only $900 in the scheme of
things But I also don't want to make our

753
00:57:52,079 --> 00:58:03,119
friends in various cities upset with us
um just because we don't have an officer

754
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:09,040
currently which could change um given
you know a turnaround or or whatever. So

755
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:15,280
I'm not really too hip on just
cancelling right now. um maybe public

756
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:19,920
safety, having a talk through, having a
better understanding of putting all the

757
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:24,160
pieces together because I feel like we
just have little tidbits here, here,

758
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:28,960
here, and we need to to get the puzzle
pieces all together so that we can fully

759
00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:35,599
understand what services we have
inhouse, what services we contract out

760
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:41,040
of our house, and how we can be the the
best financial

761
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:45,520
givers of of that, you Well, I think we
can we can inventory that at our public

762
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:50,160
safety meeting. But I think to
Fletcher's point, I'm I am perfectly

763
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:55,440
fine with us accepting that officer Jax
wants to resign from search and still

764
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:59,440
being a member of CERT for now.
>> There may be a participation component.

765
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:02,880
I just I don't know if I can still be a
member without having

766
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:06,480
» a person on the team, but I would I can
always I can always ask. [clears throat]

767
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:10,240
» So, it sounds like we need to gather a
lot more information. I'm wondering

768
00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:14,480
should we just table this um for our
next meeting?

769
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:18,079
» When do they need to know by?
>> We paid the bill in September last year.

770
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:21,760
So I'm sure it's going to and we don't
have another meeting until I'm sure I

771
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:25,359
can hold them off. I mean I don't think
I mean I've already told them. So

772
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:29,200
» I need to call a special counsel meeting
for $900. I guess

773
00:59:27,839 --> 00:59:31,599
» we we can we can take time.
>> Well, that's what

774
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,920
» get a pass due notice and that'll
probably be all right.

775
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,559
» Seems to be the I'm sure they know where
we're heading here.

776
00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:39,599
» Who is the person in charge of it? Is it
Chief McCcluskey

777
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:43,040
» for now? Vote. They vote. The board
votes to see who what chief wants to who

778
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:48,480
who does it. So,
>> so maybe he'll take a little kindness to

779
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:51,406
us since he used to be here and he has a
softness.

780
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:53,839
» Friends and family discount. Sure.
[laughter]

781
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:57,359
» Well, I think what would be helpful
whether it's public safety looking at

782
00:59:55,359 --> 01:00:01,760
this, but I'd like the information as
well. So, um, exactly what Susan

783
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,760
outlined. So, what are the services?
What are the associated costs? The total

784
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:14,240
cost to our budget? um how it the
interaction with ours all of those like

785
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:19,040
outline that for certine so we can and
then if there's anything else that pops

786
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:22,040
up in your space um that would be
helpful

787
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:28,559
» looks like public safety will meet on
the 17th third Thursday Thursday next

788
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:36,920
council meeting is the 21st so we'll be
able to bring it back either on the 21st

789
01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:36,920
or the first meeting uh in a October Any

790
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,920
other question?
>> Thank you.

791
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:45,440
» Move to table it, please.
>> Move to

792
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:50,000
your pen amend the motion.
>> My motion to table the item.

793
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,079
» Yes.
>> Okay.

794
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,200
» Roll call.
>> Susan Skir.

795
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,160
» Yes.
>> Joseph Jones.

796
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,200
» Yes.
>> Fletcher Berry.

797
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,440
» Yes.
>> Lauren Campbell.

798
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,880
» Yes.
>> Harms.

799
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:03,359
» Yes.
>> E. Consideration of resolution number

800
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:08,319
202658, a resolution approving a
professional services agreement with

801
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,280
Lyall Sumc.
>> Yes.

802
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:13,280
» Which one is it?
>> Simk, I believe.

803
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:19,200
» Okay. Simick Associates for leadership
and strategic planning services.

804
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:23,440
» Uh staff has visited with Lyall and
discussed potential dates for holding

805
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:27,520
these sessions after our last council
meeting. Uh it does not look like

806
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:33,839
there's a good date that is going to
work in August or September for the

807
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:37,520
two-day city council session. Uh and so
it looks like the best option would be

808
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:44,640
to look for something in early November
most likely. Uh

809
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:50,480
the ideal would be two consecutive days
um between 6 to 8 hours uh both days

810
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:55,520
with Lyall. And then there's a lot of
work on the staff side that'll lead up

811
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:59,680
to that as well as a zoom interview with
each elected official done at the

812
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:04,000
elected officials kind of scheduling
preference u prior to that. So my

813
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:10,240
suggestion is if we want to move forward
with the strategic planning uh in

814
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:16,000
November or possibly uh late October if
we find a date that works uh we take a

815
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:20,160
minute here tonight or this week and try
to find a couple of dates that work for

816
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:24,720
everybody at the dis and for staff. uh
and then we can backfill in kind of all

817
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:30,839
those components that lead up to that
city council uh session or the two

818
01:02:27,839 --> 01:02:30,839
sessions.

819
01:02:32,799 --> 01:02:39,359
So I guess the the two questions are uh
is everybody still supportive of moving

820
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:43,200
forward with the strategic planning with
Lyall uh potentially in November a

821
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:47,839
little later than we discussed last
time. Uh, and if so, do we want to

822
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:52,319
compare calendars here tonight or I can
get u another poll out to everybody on

823
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:57,760
availability and we can try to identify
two ideally consecutive dates that work

824
01:02:54,559 --> 01:03:03,200
for uh all parties involved. Lyall is
available uh the entirety of November.

825
01:03:00,799 --> 01:03:06,799
Uh and key staff appear like they'll be
available all of November with the

826
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:11,119
exception of November 1st and November
2nd. So, we should have a pretty good

827
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:16,640
window of days to be able to choose from
in everybody's calendar.

828
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:21,063
Let's do it.
I'm on the 5th through the 11th.

829
01:03:19,043 --> 01:03:21,063
[snorts]

830
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:26,480
» You're gone on Veterans Day again for
like the ninth year in a row.

831
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:31,000
» It's my
>> Don't talk to me if you start watching

832
01:03:27,839 --> 01:03:31,000
your land.

833
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:39,640
» about the coming following weekend 13th,
14th, 15th.

834
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:49,839
I'm open.
>> That's open

835
01:03:46,799 --> 01:03:54,079
» once Lauren 13th through the 15th.
>> So you see then or you're available

836
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:57,720
suggesting that. Okay,
>> that should be fine.

837
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,960
» I'll just move one thing around. Are we
talking Friday, Saturday? Are we talking

838
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:08,440
Saturday, Sunday? Are we talking Friday,
Saturday, Sunday?

839
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:18,000
Your pleasure. Uh Lyle's available at
our discretion from those dates from

840
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:22,640
what I choose if you want to do evenings
or daytime. Uh people make it work. Uh

841
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,520
hopefully other department heads here
also kind of have their calendars open

842
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,640
if there's any hard stops. I know that
the only two I was aware of trying to

843
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:32,079
catch everyone. And chief, I know you
were out of country at the time, so I

844
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:36,720
didn't catch you on it, but November 1st
and November 2nd. So, as it stands, I

845
01:04:34,319 --> 01:04:40,079
think we can make anything work. A
Friday might be kind of nice if we can

846
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:44,880
do it partially during the workday. Um,
but whatever council would like to move

847
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:49,880
forward with, I think we can do.
>> I can do it from noon on on the 13th.

848
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:56,720
» I'll just block it all off on my
calendar.

849
01:04:53,359 --> 01:05:04,480
I can make that work.
>> All that noon to 8 on the 13th.

850
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:07,119
» Will there be Casey's pizza?
>> Maybe.

851
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,140
» Or something better. I love that.
[laughter]

852
01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:14,640
at least one meal needs to be provided.
I feel like

853
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:18,559
» have something
>> um at the CC probably

854
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:21,799
» if it's available.
>> Oh yeah.

855
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:29,359
» Otherwise likely here.
>> He's going to check.

856
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:33,680
» Yeah, I can see and I block it right
now.

857
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:37,920
» And then the 14th as the second
consecutive day. Is there a preference

858
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:39,839
start early in the morning or
>> not too early?

859
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:43,839
» Same time.
>> Yeah. No, no, not not that early.

860
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:48,160
» To 8
>> like 10

861
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:52,160
» after noon. Afternoon.
>> 9 or 10.

862
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:55,839
» 10 to 6.
>> Yeah.

863
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:59,960
Council member Campbell, 10 to 6
potentially work for you.

864
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,960
» She's gone.

865
01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:08,720
devices. Oh, she should pop back up in a
second.

866
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:14,799
» Where's she at? I
>> think she's driving. Not herself

867
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:16,640
driving. She's in the vehicle.
>> All right. Well, we can figure out the

868
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:21,920
loop. Go.
>> There she is.

869
01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:29,160
» Council member Campbell, does the 14th
from 10 to 6 p.m. potentially work for

870
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:29,160
you as the second date after the 13th?

871
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:37,160
You're on mute if you responded.

872
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:41,880
» I heard a yes. Okay, let's go.

873
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:48,640
» All right. Well, I'll circle up with her
and uh we'll tentatively plan on that.

874
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:52,400
I'll follow up with uh more specific
dates for items leading up to that

875
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:58,960
location and everything else afterwards,
unless any issues um anybody else has

876
01:06:55,039 --> 01:07:02,240
said. Okay. Anything
else you need besides the vote? Besides

877
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,640
the vote. Yes.
>> All right. Roll call.

878
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,920
» Susan Skiris.
>> Yes.

879
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:07,119
» Joseph Jones.
>> Yes.

880
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:10,640
» Fletcher Berry.
>> Yes.

881
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:13,280
» Lauren Campbell.
>> We have a motion.

882
01:07:11,359 --> 01:07:17,359
» Do we have a motion?
>> Didn't we?

883
01:07:14,319 --> 01:07:21,839
» I thought so.
>> I got some extra time to be able to

884
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:24,799
unmute and say yes.
>> I don't have a motion. No.

885
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:29,839
» Did you not write a motion?
>> Oh, I guess I did. Just I think we just

886
01:07:26,799 --> 01:07:32,319
» move to move forward on in November.
>> Second.

887
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,400
» Roll call.
>> Susan Scarce. Yes.

888
01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:38,680
» Joseph Jones. Yes.
>> Fletcher Berry. Yes. Lauren Campbell.

889
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:43,559
» I think she already said yes, wasn't
she?

890
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:53,280
» She had enough time. Yes.
>> Technical difficulties.

891
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:57,039
» We'll wait on that. Yes, Lauren.
>> I'm back again. That's a big yes.

892
01:07:56,111 --> 01:08:04,960
» [laughter]
>> All right. Uh, item F, consideration of

893
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:07,599
resolution number 22659. Is that
supposed to be 202659?

894
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:12,559
» Yeah, I just saw that.
>> Yeah, 202659. A resolution authorizing

895
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:17,920
the public arts committee to approve a
contract for the 6587 University Avenue

896
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:21,120
Mural Project and authorizing
administration to execute the contract.

897
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,080
» Move to approve.
>> Second,

898
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:29,040
» AJ.
>> Yes. So the we have uh received some

899
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:34,560
public feedback on the finalists. Uh the
committee uh the public arts committee

900
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:38,960
met and uh voted on the finalist uh
worked on some revisions that they'd

901
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:45,040
like to see uh to the mural on the west
wall as well as the awning uh last week.

902
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:50,640
Got those in front of KBY interest. And
I see we have uh Liz uh legit as well

903
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:56,239
online here our consultants on the
project. uh got that in front of the uh

904
01:08:53,359 --> 01:09:00,159
board of trustees for
uh Kobe interest. Uh they were

905
01:08:57,839 --> 01:09:05,679
supportive of the west wall piece uh but
did have some concerns about the awning

906
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:11,440
uh both the nature I think of doing a
mural on the awning and maybe the the

907
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:17,679
amount of design um that was on the
draft awning uh mural as well. And so we

908
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:23,679
do have a schedule uh that we were
trying to adhere with uh for our

909
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:28,159
finalist and that would include
continuing or moving forward with the

910
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:32,960
installation on the west wall in August
and into September. And since we don't

911
01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:36,719
meet again until midepptember uh we sort
of have some inflection point here

912
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:43,199
tonight on how we want to proceed uh
with the mural holistic label the awning

913
01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:48,719
and the west wall. And uh the suggestion
would be go ahead and approve uh a

914
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:53,920
contract or approve authorizing staff
and the public arts committee to move

915
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:57,840
forward with that west mar wall mural as
designed and approved by the committee

916
01:09:56,480 --> 01:10:03,520
shown on the attachment here this
evening and approved by KBY interests.

917
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:08,480
Uh but then additionally authorize uh
staff and the public arts committee to

918
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:14,880
engage with KBY interests on any
potential revisions to the awning mural.

919
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:20,320
Uh either modifications to that or maybe
some considerations of u installation

920
01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:24,880
and potential removal if needed due to
circumstances or design conflict on

921
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:28,719
that. Uh but that is sort of the
question in front of you here today. And

922
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:35,120
I do have some cost information included
in that staff report. Just as a

923
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:41,199
reminder, uh there are um Bravo funds
that were received specifically for the

924
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:46,800
west wall piece. Uh that was $40,000
or up to 75% of the west wall and the

925
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:51,440
mural design costs. And then there was a
Prairie Meadows grant that we recently

926
01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:56,000
received uh that did uh notate
specifically the awning. Uh so that was

927
01:10:53,760 --> 01:11:02,400
10,000 there. And then the city had
budgeted $40,000.

928
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:05,760
Uh but the actual cost um if everything
stands today would be closer to that

929
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:10,960
20-ish,000
range. um if everything was completed

930
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:16,159
and all grant funds received after
considering uh the mural protection on

931
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:22,000
the west wall uh the consultant expenses
and then the four finalist designs uh

932
01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:29,440
give or take. So depending on whether
that awning piece moves forward uh could

933
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:35,440
have grant implications uh for the uh
the Prairie Meadows funding uh the west

934
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:42,400
wall being all approved and the funds
from Bravo specifically for that piece

935
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:46,719
uh should be fine and I think from a
cost perspective we would be able to

936
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:52,400
receive and utilize all or nearly all of
that $40,000.

937
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:57,600
Um, but we don't have a final design
that's approved for the awning and we

938
01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:01,920
need to have conversation with Colby
interests over the course of the next

939
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:06,480
few weeks to see if we can finalize that
design and then move forward within that

940
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:11,600
September time frame to complete that
design uh on on the awning. So, that's

941
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:14,640
kind of the question here tonight is if
you want to move forward with the west

942
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:21,040
wall and authorize the committee and
staff to try to finish up uh the awning

943
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:24,640
piece or you can hit pause, but we do
have some time constraints both on the

944
01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:30,400
artist side as well as from the grant
funding side of uh moving forward with

945
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:33,440
and completing this mural. And Liz, I
maybe you want to give a little bit of

946
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:38,560
update for your conversations with uh
the artist or the finalist uh on her

947
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:43,120
perspective. And we did receive from her
today an updated awning design as well,

948
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:46,480
maybe to try to move the needle a little
bit on that. That's been circulated with

949
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:49,280
the committee. Uh but we haven't brought
it to council yet. Just received it

950
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:52,960
today.
>> Yes, it's been wonderful to work with

951
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:59,520
Heather. She's a Windsor Heights
resident, so it's been she's really

952
01:12:56,239 --> 01:13:06,320
excited about it. I think the West Wall
specifically is the major show piece. I

953
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:12,480
think the awning piece of it as well. um
is an important part of the design, but

954
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:19,679
it is not the main piece of the design.
It's not the um overall welcoming image,

955
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:24,960
and that's really the west wall piece.
So, um Heather's been great. She

956
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:30,560
understands what's been going on in the
last week. She's very eager to get going

957
01:13:27,679 --> 01:13:35,840
on the West Wall. um not only for her
own schedule, but just in terms of

958
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:40,080
making sure that paint adheres to a
building. We need to make sure that

959
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:48,719
we're doing this before temperatures
drop. Um really the the mark is about

960
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:55,320
40° at night, so we're not there yet, so
we're still good. Uh we also were trying

961
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:55,320
to get things done by Fall Fest.

962
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:04,800
Um, as a member of this committee, I of
the arts committee, I just want to say I

963
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:08,560
I think that we're at a point in time to
move forward. I I would recommend that

964
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:13,440
we move forward with the the west wall
right now. We can figure out the awning,

965
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:19,360
you know, as it moves forward or get K's
approval. Um, with with that, I don't

966
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:22,560
think it's, you know, a mandatory
component. I understand there's budget

967
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:27,520
implications and all those sorts of
things. I feel like we can get it worked

968
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:33,360
out. Um, but I think right now, let's
get moving so we can get this done. Um,

969
01:14:30,719 --> 01:14:37,040
it's been a work in progress for a
period of time and so it's time to move.

970
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:42,400
I I feel like it's time to move and get
it done and we've got the grant funds,

971
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:47,040
so let's let's get her going.
>> I agree. I if we could just get the the

972
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:53,520
west wall started and deal with the
awning issue later. Um, if we even have

973
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:56,480
to do the awnings, um, that would be my
suggestion.

974
01:14:56,719 --> 01:15:03,360
for me. If folks are generally
supportive of that, the proposed motion

975
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:07,040
is to authorize the public arts
committee to approve and city

976
01:15:04,719 --> 01:15:10,640
administration to execute a contract
with Heather Hansen to complete the west

977
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:15,679
wall mural in accordance with the design
approved by the KBY interest trustees

978
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:19,600
and authorize the public arts committee
to approve an administration to execute

979
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:25,360
a contract with Heather Hansen to
complete the awning mural subject to

980
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:29,840
approval by KBY interest trustees any
and any mutually agreed upon

981
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:33,600
modifications. ations. Such approval may
be conditioned upon the city removing

982
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:37,760
the awning mural and restoring the
awning to its existing condition if

983
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:42,800
within 6 months of completion the Kobe
interest trustees notify the city that

984
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:47,520
the mural is unsatisfactory and that the
total cost of the mural agreement shall

985
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:53,199
not exceed $70,000.
I would like to I want the west wall

986
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:58,080
done, but I would like to see in front
of council before and and not that I

987
01:15:55,679 --> 01:16:03,120
don't trust the arts committee at all.
Um, but I think we put everything else

988
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:06,480
in front of council and I think that
this the awning should be something that

989
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:12,239
is also brought in front of council
after it's approved. Um, just kind of

990
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:17,440
dot the eyes, cross the tees, and be
consistent on on how we handle our

991
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:20,560
decisions here.
Liz, are there any concerns about the

992
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:24,960
ability to complete that mural if this
didn't come back in front of city

993
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:29,199
council until midepptember?
>> I think that it's going to take her

994
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:34,480
approximately 3 weeks to get that west
wall done. So, it would be probably

995
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:36,320
aligning with that timeline.
>> Still should be able to get complete

996
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:40,320
this year then,
>> I believe. So, yes.

997
01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:43,280
» So, just so
>> it all depends on weather, quite

998
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:48,480
frankly. I mean, there's there's a
little bit of what happens in October.

999
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:55,360
I just want to make sure like I would
like the west wall to get started and if

1000
01:16:52,800 --> 01:17:01,520
we could cut out the the whole part of
the awning in that contract so that that

1001
01:16:58,239 --> 01:17:04,960
comes forth to council for approval
prior to it being done. But the west

1002
01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:09,840
wall, I would love to have it done
before uh Fall Fest and maybe have a

1003
01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:14,960
little bus tour that kind of just goes
right around that and everybody can see

1004
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:23,239
it so that they know it's there and we
kind of showcase it. Um, so

1005
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:23,239
that's my two cents on it.

1006
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:29,760
And if that's that preference, then the
first half of that motion, everything

1007
01:17:26,159 --> 01:17:33,840
before the and uh would just authorize
the committee and staff to execute that

1008
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:37,040
contract, which is not finalized at this
point, just because this has been a work

1009
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:40,480
in motion. But Liz, I think you were
expecting that would be approximately

1010
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:44,000
half the cost.
>> I said 30 I said 35,000. That's what's

1011
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:50,159
in the contract right now. And that's
what her invoice was for.

1012
01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:55,040
» Okay. So 35,000 then.
So we approve the wall. It gets done in

1013
01:17:52,960 --> 01:18:00,640
roughly two three weeks by the time we
meet again and then by then there should

1014
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:03,280
be an awning proposal
at that time.

1015
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:06,880
» A proposal whether that is accepted by
Colby interest board of trustees is to

1016
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:11,840
be determined but I think we should be
able to give council some direction by

1017
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:15,440
midseptember of whether that can proceed
or not.

1018
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:19,600
» And when would she be able to start the
mural given if we approve it tonight

1019
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,880
like this? When is
>> she wants to start this week as soon as

1020
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:27,280
possible. So, as soon as the contract
and check gets cut, she's going. She's

1021
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,480
ready.
>> Now, let's just hope the weather.

1022
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:33,280
» Yeah, exactly. I mean, again, it's all
weather, but she wants to start this

1023
01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:36,764
week.
>> Not tomorrow.

1024
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,764
» Hey, [laughter]

1025
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,199
» yeah.
>> So, a revised motion would be authorized

1026
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:44,400
the public works committee to approve
and city administration to execute a

1027
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:47,360
contract with Heather Hansen to complete
the West Law mural in accordance with

1028
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:53,600
the design approved by the Colby
interest trustees for an amount not to

1029
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:56,320
exceed 35,000. or revise my motion.
>> Was who was the second?

1030
01:18:54,719 --> 01:18:59,360
» I think you did. Joseph.
>> Joseph.

1031
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:02,000
» Oh, we're planning to revise the
resolution, too.

1032
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:05,760
» Yeah,
it's Yeah.

1033
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:09,080
» Okay. [clears throat]
>> One more.

1034
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,760
like an agreement.

1035
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:36,960
Okay. So, the last whereas of the
resolution

1036
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:39,960
» will need to be revised.
Um

1037
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:54,640
to match the motion so that any final
approval of the awning is going to

1038
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:58,120
return back to city council for approval
prior to authorization.

1039
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:05,159
» Good with that, Adam?
>> Yep, you got it. Okay.

1040
01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:05,159
» Um

1041
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:12,480
and then section one, the public arts
committee authority.

1042
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:18,719
» Mhm.
We're going to need to revise that um

1043
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:23,280
because as I'm understanding the council
is not providing um authority for

1044
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:26,800
modifications to the project scope
design or contract.

1045
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:32,120
So all of that will come back to the
council once we have an updated design

1046
01:20:28,719 --> 01:20:32,120
on the awning.

1047
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:47,400
and then strike section two. Yep.

1048
01:20:53,120 --> 01:21:00,719
And section three
um

1049
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:03,520
striking the first part of that. So,
it's going to start by reading, "The

1050
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:07,280
city administrator or the city
administrator's designate is authorized

1051
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:10,280
to execute the contract on behalf of the
city,

1052
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,920
provided

1053
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:22,040
that any additional modifications will
return to council for approval.

1054
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:36,080
And I think four and five are okay.
Oh, sorry about that.

1055
01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:39,480
» Sorry.
>> I've got it.

1056
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:56,400
» Are we good?
>> You're good. So,

1057
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,960
» are you good with those changes?
>> I am good with those changes.

1058
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,120
» Thank you, John. You good with those
changes?

1059
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,880
» All right,
>> roll call.

1060
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:03,920
» Susan Skus,
>> yes.

1061
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:04,960
» Joseph Jones,
>> yes.

1062
01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:07,840
» Lecher Berry,
>> yes.

1063
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,679
» Lauren Campbell,
>> yes.

1064
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:14,159
» Raise the harms.
>> Yes. [clears throat]

1065
01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:19,440
» 5G. Consideration of the first reading
of ordinance number 202602, an ordinance

1066
01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:22,320
amending provisions pertaining to fiber
optic cable license.

1067
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:26,400
» Move to approve. Second.
>> AJ.

1068
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:29,760
Uh, city staff, Mayor Jones and legal
have had conversations with G Fiber

1069
01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:35,040
about a potential buildout of a fiber
network uh, within Windsor Heights. Uh,

1070
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:39,520
be kind of similar in nature to how
Metroet built out a number of years

1071
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:44,000
back. Uh,
G Fiber had some concerns with the

1072
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:49,280
current ordinance and its restriction on
a 2-year licensing agreement. I think

1073
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:55,040
that concern is is that uh a significant
investment in underground infrastructure

1074
01:22:53,040 --> 01:23:00,480
uh and the overall network servicing
customers uh that would be subject to

1075
01:22:57,679 --> 01:23:05,600
review and potential uh requirement for
removal of all that infrastructure at

1076
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:10,400
the end of a 2-year uh duration uh
wasn't generally in line with uh what

1077
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:15,199
they see in other cities and uh an
acceptable investment model. We did take

1078
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:19,600
a look at some other cities uh fiber
ordinances

1079
01:23:16,719 --> 01:23:25,920
uh and it does appear that our two-year
limitation is atypical.

1080
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:30,719
Uh what they are proposing is a longer
term agreement potentially up to 20

1081
01:23:27,679 --> 01:23:35,520
years uh which isn't uncommon. Uh it
would include some additional provisions

1082
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:40,239
above and beyond what is currently in
our ordinance as far as notification

1083
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:44,639
requirements for residents, restoration
work, uh other areas of concern that

1084
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:49,520
staff have met and discussed about
typical problems that we see or issues

1085
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:55,440
we see arise uh when there's substantial
infrastructure being uh put underground

1086
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:59,520
in our rightway. Uh so the potential for
a longerterm agreement would be subject

1087
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:05,360
to them fulfilling those elements um as
well as what's in our ordinance um but

1088
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:09,600
grant them some more security uh on that
investment long term beyond what's

1089
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:14,960
currently limited to two years in the
city. Uh the city does have other uh

1090
01:24:13,199 --> 01:24:21,040
franchise agreements with other
entities. Metronet proceeded under anou

1091
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:27,600
from what I see not a franchise
agreement. And then we also have uh

1092
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:32,400
other entities that have fiber
infrastructure in Windsor Heights fairly

1093
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:39,040
limited in nature uh that just operate
under our current uh bianual annual

1094
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:44,480
license that uh that they pay. Uh so the
proposed language uh would remove that

1095
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:49,120
two-year requirement or minimum
uh and then it would uh provide some

1096
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:54,800
additional language there regarding the
potential removal of that fiber

1097
01:24:50,719 --> 01:25:00,159
equipment uh at the end of a term. Uh so
this would be the first reading of that.

1098
01:24:56,639 --> 01:25:06,400
uh if it were to proceed to passage, you
could expect to see a G fiber license uh

1099
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:12,320
be brought in front of council later
this fall most likely and then potential

1100
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:16,080
installation occurring either late fall
or potentially next year depending on

1101
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:20,400
where they're at with build out with
other communities within the De Moines

1102
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:23,400
metro uh and their contractor
availability.

1103
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:30,880
Happy to answer any questions. Uh this
conversation's kind of been moving back

1104
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:34,080
and forth over the last couple of weeks.
So uh certainly welcome any thoughts

1105
01:25:32,719 --> 01:25:39,280
that you have. There's opportunity to
make changes on this, but uh it appears

1106
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:43,199
to be a rational uh change to ours. Uh
it would encourage long-term investment

1107
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:47,679
uh but still enable us to enter into
agreement that would contain uh

1108
01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:54,560
stringent requirements uh for their
behavior in the rightway uh and removal

1109
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:57,920
of the equipment uh if not met.
So, since it removes the existing

1110
01:25:56,239 --> 01:26:02,719
two-year license term, is there a
license term? When I looked at this

1111
01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:08,639
ordinance, I didn't see any type of term
information, and maybe I just missed it

1112
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:14,000
as I read through this late at night,
>> no license fee,

1113
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:18,320
» and that's it. So, they just instead of
having the two-year,

1114
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:22,719
» right now, there's a license fee that
folks that don't have a franchise

1115
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:26,639
agreement for fiber uh pay by annually.
Um, and there's some conflicting

1116
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:31,679
language in our existing ordinance about
an initial grant and then an annual

1117
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:36,159
license. So, this would clarify that and
just make it an annual license for

1118
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:39,520
anybody that doesn't have a longerterm
license agreement with the city. They

1119
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:43,920
would pay their annual fee uh as long as
there's no issues. Uh, they are subject

1120
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:47,760
to our ordinance uh and may maintain
their fiber equipment within the city

1121
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:51,000
right away as previously proved approved
and installed.

1122
01:26:55,600 --> 01:27:02,960
and we still monitored like if they've
ensured that they are doing what they're

1123
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:09,760
supposed to like restoring the property
and all of that since I remember

1124
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:16,159
» we do our best uh it is a constant fight
>> there's instances where

1125
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:20,080
we will call the state uh and use their
enforcement mechanism there are

1126
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:23,760
instances where after many attempts they
don't restore it appropriately. Public

1127
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:30,080
works has done the restoration work and
we have invoiced uh the contractor. Uh

1128
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:33,840
but yes uh we do make efforts to try to
make sure that the restoration work

1129
01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:38,639
occurs per our ordinance and if we
cannot get the

1130
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:42,800
leee or contractor to do so then uh
public works has taken steps in the past

1131
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:46,239
to do that. Uh but it is always a battle
and it's always a matter of seasonality

1132
01:27:44,639 --> 01:27:50,320
as well. if the work's occurring in the
dead of summer, the restoration work is

1133
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:53,760
impossible to do and then you're
expecting them to actually remember to

1134
01:27:51,840 --> 01:28:00,960
come back several months later and and
do that and potentially water some sod

1135
01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:04,400
or water some uh seed uh on a little
patch of ground that they may have

1136
01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:07,520
disturbed. And practically there are
challenges for them to do that. I think

1137
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:11,120
we understand that. Uh but we do try to
get them to live up to the expectation

1138
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:16,320
of of what's in the ordinance. I just
know there were lots of complaints the

1139
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:20,320
last time they that we had a company
come through and I know that same

1140
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:24,320
company has had lots of issues in other
cities. So I just don't want our

1141
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:29,040
residents to have to deal with that
again kind of being my own self.

1142
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:32,880
» There will there will inevitably be
issues

1143
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:37,760
utility hits restoration issues and a
buildout of the entire city. I that's

1144
01:28:34,719 --> 01:28:46,080
the one thing I can promise you. Um
>> wow really make this sound amazing.

1145
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:49,440
jump on board. And this is I if if uh G
Fiber were to come through, that would

1146
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:54,639
be for the whole city, not just
portions, or do we know yet?

1147
01:28:51,440 --> 01:28:58,000
» Typically, what we hear is that um these
type of companies, as long as there's

1148
01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:03,679
density, we'll try to service the entire
community, which we have the density. Uh

1149
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:08,800
but if there are apartment complexes or
private drives, then they would be

1150
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:13,920
subject to obtaining permission from the
HOA or the governing body to be able to

1151
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:18,480
serve that apartment or that private
street complex. And that's usually where

1152
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:22,159
their commitment will stop is, you know,
that just depends on private interest at

1153
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:25,920
that point. And so they won't promise to
serve the entirety of the community, but

1154
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:30,440
usually their intentions are to serve as
much of the community as as they can.

1155
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,679
Any other questions?

1156
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:42,159
» Also, thanks for going through this
because I read this and it did not make

1157
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:46,840
much sense to me when I was reading
through it. So, I had lots of questions.

1158
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:52,159
» Roll call.
>> Susan Skiris. Yes.

1159
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,280
» Joseph Jones. Yes.
>> Fletcher Barry.

1160
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:57,679
» Yes.
>> I did get a message. Lauren did have to

1161
01:29:55,440 --> 01:30:00,000
final drop. Uh Terresa Harms.
>> Yes.

1162
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:10,960
reports, Miss Harvest.
>> Yes. Um, so a couple of things. Um, MAC

1163
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:16,560
meeting was last week. We had, uh, four,
uh, we had chiefs and officers in from

1164
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:22,400
Anken, Norwok, Clive, and Walke to talk
about their e-motal ordinances and kind

1165
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:27,280
of how they're implementing those um,
enforcement and that sort of thing. It's

1166
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:34,000
really uh for this first year education
focused. Walke and Ankeny both noted um

1167
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:38,639
that they're seeing a lot of these for
sale on you know like Facebookark

1168
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:45,199
marketplace after the implementation of
their ordinances. Um a lot of parents

1169
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:49,679
not understanding what um you know that
one they weren't legal or they weren't

1170
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:55,280
appropriate for their you know children
under the age of 14, those sorts of

1171
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:59,199
things. Um and then identifying, you
know, situations or or talked through

1172
01:30:57,440 --> 01:31:07,040
like how they managed situations of
enforcement um when there was um um you

1173
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:10,560
know, like a kid running into a car,
like literally running into a car, being

1174
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:14,880
hospitalized because he had a
concussion, all of those sorts of

1175
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:21,520
things. um
and having education conversations that

1176
01:31:18,239 --> 01:31:27,840
fell on deaf ears for ultimately then
having to move to you know an

1177
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:31,679
appropriate fine um uh not the goal but
it was how they had to deal with the

1178
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:36,239
situation. So as we work through ours I
think that was um certainly helpful to

1179
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:40,480
understand and hear theirs are all
similar in nature. I think ours is

1180
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:46,400
similar to the, you know, there's like
these core tenants of each one. Um, so

1181
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:50,960
as we start, you know, finalizing ours
and going through that, it'll be um it

1182
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:56,880
was good to see and hear how it's going
in their communities. And I think

1183
01:31:52,480 --> 01:32:01,840
overall positively their their calls for
um you from

1184
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:05,280
um residents about them have decreased
and all those sorts of things. So um the

1185
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:09,600
education is making a difference and
they have they've created educational

1186
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:14,080
materials as well. So more to come on
that and we did talk about what happens

1187
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:19,280
at the state level. Um you know really
ideally the state putting in kind of a

1188
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:22,560
baseline um and we know that I've in
conversations with several legislators

1189
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:27,040
that were expecting legislation to be
introduced. Now whether or not that

1190
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:30,800
passes is a whole another, you know, uh,
thing, but at the end of the day, you

1191
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:35,040
know, kind of setting a standard
definitions and those and those sorts of

1192
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:39,280
things with the idea that still would
require local governments to come in and

1193
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:43,679
set the standards because what's
different for, you know, Storm Lake or

1194
01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:46,880
Alden, Iowa is going to be very
different than here in, you know, De

1195
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:53,360
Moine or Windsor Heights or Urbanddale
or whatever. So, um, so we had a really

1196
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:58,880
good MAC discussion on that. Um lots
more Windsor wonderland planning coming

1197
01:32:55,360 --> 01:33:04,239
along is coming along really nicely. So
um you know mark your calendar if you

1198
01:33:00,719 --> 01:33:10,159
haven't yet. Um also participated in uh
DW waterwork strategic planning uh focus

1199
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:15,840
group session. um Gunnar was in that
with me as well as um several other it

1200
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:21,040
was a a very positive um how do they you
know start planning out 5 10 years and

1201
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:25,920
so that was it was a good and good to
connect with the community you know a

1202
01:33:22,639 --> 01:33:32,080
lot of the they had a lot of resident um
what's the um neighborhood

1203
01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:36,639
groups that were around there um so that
was really good they are going to be

1204
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:40,800
doing some more to continue to gather um
information So, um, Adam, I told them to

1205
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:44,480
send them over. They're going to send a
thing for our newsletter with QR code,

1206
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:49,360
so people can go in and put their
feedback and that sort of thing as

1207
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:52,560
they're looking about planning out. Um,
and then just a reminder, I did send

1208
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:58,400
out, hopefully everybody got your email,
the city admin evaluation. Everybody got

1209
01:33:55,520 --> 01:34:04,000
that? Okay, great. It's due August 28th.
Don't forget, mark your calendar. Don't

1210
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:09,679
be late. Got about 10 days. All right.
Thank you.

1211
01:34:06,639 --> 01:34:14,159
Yes, mom. [laughter]
>> No, I would have to abuse my yelling

1212
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:19,440
voice.
>> Leave the

1213
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:23,679
remind me the I think the young man who
unfortunately rode into a car. Was he

1214
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:26,320
the same one? Didn't he ride into a
house?

1215
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:30,639
» Um
>> could could be. There were multiple I

1216
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:33,679
feel bad for the Ankeny feel. I feel
like they've dealt with a lot of

1217
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:38,719
» horror stories,
>> shenanigans over they seem to be, but

1218
01:34:37,199 --> 01:34:41,760
there is somebody I don't know if it was
the same one, but that definitely was a

1219
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:45,199
story that was shared as well.
>> Ran into a house.

1220
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:48,639
» Yeah, I think it was the same one. Yeah.
Yeah. Now that you said that,

1221
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:50,320
» must have had some bad luck or so
>> bad skills.

1222
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:56,719
» Yeah.
>> Well, the crazy part about that and not

1223
01:34:52,800 --> 01:35:00,880
only because you brought it up is um it
was

1224
01:34:58,639 --> 01:35:04,719
damaged, right? like it after it hit the
car like you couldn't ride it anymore.

1225
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:07,719
His parents wouldn't bought him another
one.

1226
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:13,520
» Third times a charm with learning.
>> Yeah. Oh,

1227
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:17,920
» Mr. Barry.
>> Yep. Um attended a recent chamber ribbon

1228
01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:21,760
cutting for Wellpoint USA in which we
were able to fill backpacks for unhoused

1229
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:26,880
individuals. So, that was cool to to
help out in that way. Uh attended the

1230
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:31,280
Icon Water Trails uh board meeting.
their principal point um site is

1231
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:35,120
essentially complete and it'll be open
to the public next summer. Uh which is a

1232
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:40,159
pretty big proof of concept for this
organization uh the region and

1233
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:44,159
partnerships going forward. Attended
Chambers Wake Up Windsor Heights at SP

1234
01:35:42,239 --> 01:35:47,840
Salon here in Windsor Heights. Um
thought it was a cool story. Sarah Pearl

1235
01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:53,040
grew up in Windsor Heights. Her parents
still live here. um after kind of moving

1236
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:57,440
away um she wanted to set up her own
salon um and chose Windsor Heights to do

1237
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:01,840
so. So
>> she also started her nonprofit

1238
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:06,639
» and Oh yeah y and started on Yep. That
was that was new to me that at that

1239
01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:08,960
meeting too. So cool. That's all I had.
>> Jones

1240
01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:14,159
» uh our last AR meeting at the beginning
of the month we talked about um the

1241
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:19,440
complimentary paratransit that we call
uh bus plus and what that service area

1242
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:24,080
looks like. We talked about um D on
demand um some of the service changes

1243
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:30,719
that will take effect at the end of next
month. Um and we started to talk about

1244
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:36,719
um local funding scenarios. So there was
a survey that went out to me and Lauren

1245
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:41,520
and Adam and of course to all the other
member communities. So commissioner,

1246
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:45,360
alternate city administrator, manager um
just asking our thoughts on on different

1247
01:36:43,679 --> 01:36:53,520
things. But we'll have a workshop at the
end of this month on the 28th um to talk

1248
01:36:49,119 --> 01:36:55,840
through some of those conversations.
>> That's it.

1249
01:36:54,560 --> 01:37:02,639
» Carries.
>> Um let's see. Last Friday night

1250
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:06,159
like yeah uh was August movie in the
park. Huge thank you to everyone who

1251
01:37:04,239 --> 01:37:10,400
volunteered and helped make the evening
happen. Special thank you to Adam over

1252
01:37:08,239 --> 01:37:13,920
here for being our staff member who
stayed until the very end and helped

1253
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:17,679
make sure everything was taken care of.
Thanks also to public works for being

1254
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:21,040
out there. Attendance was a little lower
than I anticipated since it was a nice

1255
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:26,080
night out there, but we still had
approximately 300 people come out and

1256
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:31,040
enjoy the evening together. Uh we last
Wednesday we had uh yeah last Wednesday

1257
01:37:28,719 --> 01:37:35,760
we held wham committee meeting where we
put together a game plan for an up for

1258
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:40,639
the upcoming 5K. I like to have a
personal goal and that's to have 75

1259
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:44,400
people registered for the 5K walk. So
now the work begins to get the word out

1260
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:48,239
and have people sign up. So please
spread the word, get your friends sign

1261
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:53,840
up. We're looking at having an 80s
themed race with a possible prize for

1262
01:37:51,040 --> 01:38:00,239
the best8s theme look because Windsor
Heights is turning 85 sometime here in

1263
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:04,960
the next few days, weeks, month.
>> Already happened back in June. July.

1264
01:38:02,480 --> 01:38:10,560
» Back in June. July. Okay. Well, I don't
even know where in August, so [laughter]

1265
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:14,320
it happened a month ago. There we go.
Uh, note that you don't actually have to

1266
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:17,679
run or walk the race to win the prize.
You just need to be a registered racer.

1267
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:21,280
So, if you don't want to walk and you
don't want to run, just show up in your

1268
01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:26,080
80s attire and you'll be in the running
for the the prize. I attended the annual

1269
01:38:24,159 --> 01:38:29,600
Catch De Mo State Fair breakfast this
morning. had the opportunity to meet

1270
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:36,880
members of the state fair bear board
again as well as the 2026 Iowa State

1271
01:38:32,480 --> 01:38:42,000
Bear Queen. Uh two stat two statistics
given today by Jeremy with the Iowa

1272
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:50,239
State Fair is that on Saturday alone
there were there was 44 $4.55 million

1273
01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:58,159
worth of food just food not including
drinks uh sold purchased on Saturday

1274
01:38:54,159 --> 01:39:04,880
alone. So that that was just Saturday's
big goal. Yeah. Um then there was also

1275
01:39:03,199 --> 01:39:10,800
uh Sunday's concert had the highest
ticket sales with over 17,000 people. I

1276
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:16,159
think it was like 17,200
or something like that. Um state fair

1277
01:39:14,480 --> 01:39:21,119
they were on pace to have the highest
number of tickets sold sales sold for

1278
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:25,360
concerts at the grandstand. But with
Brad Stewart uh dropping out, there's

1279
01:39:23,199 --> 01:39:31,360
questions on how to handle how all those
tickets, how to kind of put all those

1280
01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:34,960
ticket numbers together. So, waiting to
hear how that actually works out.

1281
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:38,560
Tomorrow, I'll be back at the state fair
with Catch De Mo again and the Iowa

1282
01:39:36,719 --> 01:39:43,199
State Fair for a scheduled tour of the
fairgrounds. Wednesday have women in

1283
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:50,800
government tour of the flu treatment
plant followed by a metro waste

1284
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:55,520
authority meeting. Then um Friday,
is it this Friday? We have our August

1285
01:39:53,280 --> 01:40:01,760
special events committee meeting. And
then on August 24th, we'll have our uh

1286
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:06,239
hopefully final ad hoc benefits
committee meeting. Uh Catch De Moines

1287
01:40:04,639 --> 01:40:10,320
sent out an email with a short video
about Junior Olympics. And they also

1288
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:15,040
have two important awards that they're
trying to to win. One is the most

1289
01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:18,320
influential nonprofit. Note, there are
some other great choices like the

1290
01:40:16,159 --> 01:40:22,400
Urbanddale Food Pantry is on there. I
think even the Urbandale Chamber is on

1291
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:27,920
there as well. Um, and the second is for
the best amateur sports event in the

1292
01:40:24,719 --> 01:40:33,280
2026 sports travel awards for hosting
the National Senior Games in 2025. I'm

1293
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:37,840
happy to forward the email on to you if
you would like to watch the video and

1294
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:42,080
then vote in the two award categories.
Finally, looking forward to volunteering

1295
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:46,320
at the World Food Prize Festival on the
28th. I encourage everyone to take a

1296
01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:50,800
look at the volunteer opportunities that
are still available. See if you can sign

1297
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:56,480
up for a shift or two. It's a great way
to support a a great event. And as an

1298
01:40:54,320 --> 01:41:01,760
added bonus, volunteers receive dollars
they can use for their favorite food

1299
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:06,000
vendor or use an use as an excuse to try
something new. I think they give you

1300
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:10,679
like two or$4 dollars, but you know,
it's still something. Try something new.

1301
01:41:11,440 --> 01:41:21,145
Andy has a introduction to make.
>> He's like I'm still here.

1302
01:41:19,125 --> 01:41:21,145
[laughter]

1303
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:31,600
» Hey everybody, Andy Larson, public works
director. Um I'd like to introduce our

1304
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:37,040
new public works supervisor, Greg
Slaughter. Um Greg comes to us from

1305
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:41,119
Habitat for Humanity. He's got prior
experience working with the city of

1306
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:45,840
Clive Dallas County. secondary roads.
Um, Greg started last Monday with us, so

1307
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:51,840
he's a weekend and he's still here, so
that's a good sign. Um, I even left him

1308
01:41:49,199 --> 01:41:56,719
alone for two days last week and let him
run the show. So, uh, his focus right

1309
01:41:54,639 --> 01:42:00,480
now is just trying to understand what it
is from operations standpoint, get

1310
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:04,800
accustomed to, uh, the types of
responsibilities

1311
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:09,840
uh, that we do, uh, learn staff, kind of
integrate with staff. Um, and then I've

1312
01:42:07,199 --> 01:42:14,320
tasked him with kind of taking an
assessment, um, giving some

1313
01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:19,679
recommendations on improvement from an
operation standpoint. Um, and and really

1314
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:22,960
just overseeing the day-to-day stuff.
Um, so

1315
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:26,480
» Greg,
>> hi, I'm Greg. [laughter]

1316
01:42:25,679 --> 01:42:30,159
» Welcome.
>> Welcome, Greg.

1317
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:34,159
» Welcome to the to to Greg. It's a
welcome addition to the staff. I think

1318
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:39,119
uh everything has gone well so far and
we're excited to have him on as much

1319
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:42,000
work. So, welcome. Thank you.
>> So, do you do house building on the

1320
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:46,800
side? How does that work?
>> Uh no,

1321
01:42:44,719 --> 01:42:50,320
» I mean I do I I used to do some things
on the side. I did a lot of different

1322
01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:54,000
things. Plumbing,
um you know, remodels, a little bit of

1323
01:42:52,159 --> 01:42:57,920
that, a little bit of that. So, he's got
a lot of experience when it comes to

1324
01:42:55,280 --> 01:43:02,000
concrete pavement, uh, which is is is
really a heavy focus for us from

1325
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:06,800
pavement standpoint, preservation type
of stuff. So, um, as he kind of gets

1326
01:43:04,639 --> 01:43:10,800
more accustomed to,
uh, getting integrated with our

1327
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:15,280
department, uh, he'll start to to
spearhead a lot of that work and you'll

1328
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:20,080
see him out in the street, uh, really
out in town working with the guys and

1329
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:24,080
overseeing the work that they do. So,
>> goal is to get more in-house.

1330
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:25,760
» Yeah. Keep it keep it in house. Very
good.

1331
01:43:24,480 --> 01:43:27,440
» That's great.
>> Thank you. Welcome.

1332
01:43:26,719 --> 01:43:29,119
» Nice to meet you guys.
>> You too.

1333
01:43:28,159 --> 01:43:33,600
» You too.
>> Uh just one other update then. The

1334
01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:40,480
public safety
exercise room, the second floor there of

1335
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:46,239
our garage. Um thanks to Chief and Andy
and his team uh for coming out Friday

1336
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:52,159
evening. Uh we borrowed a bucket truck
and Andy is up on the roof cutting the

1337
01:43:49,679 --> 01:43:56,560
the limb off uh getting plywood back on
there and tarping it. Uh in a way we're

1338
01:43:54,639 --> 01:44:00,960
lucky because it it only damaged the
roof. It came through the roof and then

1339
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:05,040
through the drywall into the workout
facility, but it it did not damage the

1340
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:12,400
wall of the building and it is a it's a
fairly small hole. So our intent um

1341
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:18,000
right now is to likely patch
uh the roof. Uh the we're near end of

1342
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:23,182
life on the shingles. Um but we'll patch
the shingles, we'll likely patch the

1343
01:44:20,639 --> 01:44:28,480
drywall, and then yeah, I
[clears throat] think post FD study uh

1344
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:31,840
there is a million dollars set aside for
facilities improvements here at public

1345
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:35,600
safety.
And uh I think that'll probably be

1346
01:44:34,159 --> 01:44:40,320
either some improvements to that
building. The siding is about shot. As I

1347
01:44:38,159 --> 01:44:44,480
said, the roof is is about shot. So
that'll be probably a component of that

1348
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:48,560
or some other change. So we just hate to
throw too much money at that building

1349
01:44:46,159 --> 01:44:53,280
right now on the cusp of improvements at
public safety. I think we can probably

1350
01:44:51,600 --> 01:45:01,679
get it back into serviceable condition
for several thousand.

1351
01:44:56,159 --> 01:45:08,432
Andy's shaking his head. Uh well,
>> and then uh the the property on which

1352
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,432
» got here just in time. [laughter]

1353
01:45:08,480 --> 01:45:15,840
» The property in which the tree fell from
was the property the city acquired from

1354
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:19,040
it.
>> Yes, it did.

1355
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:23,119
» Good timing. Good.
>> So, we had already planned to take this

1356
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:29,360
tree down uh as soon as we acquired the
property and and whatnot. So, uh, yeah,

1357
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:33,360
bad luck. But we've taken possession of
the property. Uh, we've signed a

1358
01:45:31,199 --> 01:45:37,199
asbestous inspection contract. So,
within the next couple weeks, we'll get

1359
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:40,159
the the house inspected for asbestous. I
won't even bother with mold because

1360
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:43,840
there's plenty of mold in there. And
then, uh, once that's been remediated,

1361
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:49,040
we'll move forward with an RFP or some
professional services process to get the

1362
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:54,480
building and trees demolished that need
to go away. and we'll have the stage set

1363
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:58,960
for spring of next year for the storm
sewer project

1364
01:45:56,480 --> 01:46:02,800
uh on 65th Street. So, that's our
general game plan there. Uh once we wrap

1365
01:46:01,119 --> 01:46:08,080
that all up, the intention still is to
put that property back out um publicly

1366
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:13,600
to see who has interest in it and have
it redeveloped and returned back to uh

1367
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:17,600
taxable evaluation for the city. Talk
more about that process once we get

1368
01:46:15,119 --> 01:46:21,040
through the the first few steps.
That's all I have.

1369
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:28,159
Motion to adjurnn. So moved.
>> Second. Second. No. I don't ever

1370
01:46:27,199 --> 01:46:29,760
» one of us.
>> We'll call.

1371
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,040
» Susan Scary.
>> Yes.

1372
01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:32,000
» Joseph Jones.
>> Yes.

1373
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:35,360
» Veterary?
>> Yes. Theresa Huts? Yes.