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And that each one of these is supported by additional narrative intent. They're not meant to be brought or abstract statements, but rather kind of a framework that helps us to connect to specific actions or to a larger community value.

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So as an example, the mobility and infrastructure, guiding principle, focuses on connecting

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people and places under that principle, the plan discusses expanding sidewalks, bike paths,

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trails, and public transit in order to improve safety, accessibility, and regional connectivity.

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that kind of helps them form a bit more.

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It's not just this one little abstract one word statement or one sentence statement.

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Each guiding principle functions in this way helping translate the broader values into

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actionable goals and strategies.

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And so then lastly, I just want to kind of give a chapter sample, nearly every chapter in

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the play and follows a similar structure and using housing in as a example, the chapter

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begins with the baseline conditions, which includes the housing type, housing stock, affordability,

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kind of the baseline zoning, and then outlines initiatives that are already underway, such

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as the Affordable Housing Plan, which the Commission adopted in 2022, accessory dwelling

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units and the role of Windsor Housing Authority. From there, it identifies kind of key issues

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in trends within the community. These are things that could have come up to the survey,

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could have come up through good planning practices, things that we see in the planning community.

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that are being talked about right now, and

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then from there, and one of my favorite parts

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about the document is that what we've heard for the community, so pulling out specific quotes

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that we're receiving survey or sort of some of our public engagement events, and this

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kind of summarizes what we've heard, and then it follows that with the goals and strategies

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so that you could take the two documents side by side, or two pages side by side and

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see how, you know, what we heard connects to some of the goals and strategies in there.

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So, that's really all I have for presentation. I would like to take a moment to thank

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Roy and FHI, I may again, our team, Christian, Nicole. I'm sure there's a few

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names up for getting this well, but I appreciate all the work that your team did

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over this past year and a half, really. And you're support with this document

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and our various meetings that we've attended. I also like to give a huge

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Thank you to the POCB Advisory Committee, the Planning and Zoning Commission, and Town Council as well.

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And then also, big thank you to everyone who participated in surveys, workshops, or even just stopped at the booth to chat with us.

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And then also to Windsor staff and their leadership.

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So we'd be happy to take any questions or if you'd like to delve in any specifics, we can do so at this time,

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but that's really all I have for presentation.

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Or we can go into the public hearing.

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Maybe you can explain what the next steps are, if this plans adopted tonight.

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Next steps.

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That's a good question.

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There's kind of our statutory requirements in that we have to publish and notice

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that the POCDs have been adopted.

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Aside from that, we've met every statutory requirement in getting this to town council

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in Prague, in a timely fashion, I think the big next step for us internally is how do we track

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these goals and present these things come up, how do we present this to the council or to the

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commission? I think figuring out a way to actively track the goals is probably the biggest next step.

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and doesn't it go to the legislature as well?

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The P.O.C.E.

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Yeah, we have 60 days to send to them.

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So it's not formally adopted until the legislature

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pluses it, is that correct or not?

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No, it's whatever the P.O.C.E is adopted by you all.

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Okay, that's an option. Okay, I'm just going to copy.

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Well, I'd be thank you. You guys for all your work.

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I was on the advisory committee too, but let's face it. You guys did all the work.

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So, um, you did a tremendous job. I know. Thank you very much.

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I'm going to jump in to say that overall.

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I think that the PLCD advisory committee did a great job of updating. I agree with most of the modifications. So when we get into the different shows, I'll explain what I thank everybody. And I thank you for taking over again tonight.

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Should we jump into the public hearing?

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So if anyone from public would like to address the plan of

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conservation development, any questions, what how do you please

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come up to state your name and address and

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Is there no one online?

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Nobody online?

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I'm bombazeros.

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I live in Soviet land.

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This is great that we're doing this for the year 25.

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five. I don't know the specifics if it concerns the Milber Accord or and we are currently

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already planning for the budget year 2027. We want to do six erosion remediation sites

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on the former Milber golf course and there's also budgeting for two bridge replacements

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there. Now it's already going out the bid to replace Bridges along Decker Brook and

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Walsh Park in those areas but the Bridges plan for Millbrook, the public, you know, of course

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having gone out the bid yet and there is this remediation of six sites for erosion control

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along the stream bank and Miss Choke, you know, our our account engineer is spearheading that.

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I propose and, you know, maybe you can be added in as a separate line item, it's not going to go in as part of the environment of the remediation plan, and maybe it's going to wait for 2040.

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But we've got those small dams relating to the former pump house for the golf course that impede the natural flow of no-brook.

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Now, let's think about Milberg. Milberg is the only stream downstream of the rainbow dam.

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That flows into the farmton river. Here we are. We're Windsor. First down.

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And the first stream into the farmton, which is why Windsor got settled.

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So I'd like to somehow get the removal of those small dams near the old pump house, what

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used to serve the golf course in the Windsor Public Area now, to be remediated and to

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be included in the 2027 budget plan.

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And if has weight to 2040, let's do it.

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And it shouldn't cost that much either.

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The whole thing is like $780,000 budget for the remediation sites.

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And that's including the markup for contingencies.

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And if we look at the economics, it's like $70,000 per area that's going to get the control for the erosion of long millbrook in the Gulf War Seria.

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So, to remove the dam, it's probably going to be only the same amount of cost.

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All the vehicles are going to be bringing the equipment down, bringing the rip wrap and

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the natural plantings to restore the parts of the millbroch stream that they want to remediate

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to stop the erosion.

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And on the way back out, they can bring the dam the particles that have been removed.

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And they're going to have all the engineering skills.

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And they're going to have the way to make the coffer dams.

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They're going to manually place sandbags.

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And with the rubber tarp, they're going to cut the broken half.

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They're going to do the work to repair where they need to control the erosion.

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All hand placed.

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You can write there in Bobbrook.

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So add that to the plan.

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Whether it's 2035, whether it's 2040, whether it's for 2027.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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All right, yes, we have a letter.

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This is an email from Owen Deutsch.

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It was dated November 9th.

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We're both.

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We're both for the council meeting.

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No, no, no, it's what?

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Pointing Mr. Stewart, this one came in after the council meeting.

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Okay, goal 7. Mobility in infrastructure, strategy A.

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I'd like to request an additional aye, or three, or a new item that's new sidewalks we provided as feasible

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when road improvements are undertaken, or new sub-developments or large-scale developments are undertaken.

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I believe that's also part of our plan right now.

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I agree.

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I thought it was to, or at least in,

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super building regulations.

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It's baked into our zoning regulations that any new developments

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are required to put side by side,

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front inches of any town road.

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And then generally, when we're doing public improvements or,

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you know, we're thinking of Baker Hollow that they recently connected.

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They put inside boxes.

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Just to comment on Mr. Missouri as a comment, the POCD doesn't get into the specifics of a construction project.

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I mean, I think some of the things that you were pointing out there could be captured under a couple of different strategies for the open space and natural resources.

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specifically fund and build priority drainage and culvert upgrades,

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monitor sensitive areas and enforce appeals.

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Unfortunately, the commission doesn't have any authority to really get involved

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with an active construction project this time.

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I encourage you to continue communications with the town engineer

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and town council, but I think we captured it in a broad sense

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to where we could make those improvements and make a case in argument

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for those improvements, but it doesn't get into the specifics of that, so.

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But thank you for your comments.

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It would have to go into the CIP, wouldn't it?

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Right. That's what I was about to say, too.

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You know, the CIP that's capital improvement plan.

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It's a six year look out of projects.

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The council wants to spend money on it.

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We have a quarterly.

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We have a letter from Crog.

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Data February 20, 2020, six report on update to PLCD 2025-3, a comprehensive update to the

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Municipal Municipal PLCD commissioners.

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Receitas acknowledged of the above mentioned referral.

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Notice of this proposal was transmitted to the regional planning and development division

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of the capital region.

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of the Connecticut General Statutes as amended.

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The staff of the Regional Planning Commission

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of the Capital Region Council of Governments

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has reviewed this zoning referral

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and finds no conflict with regional plans or policies

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or the concerns of neighboring towns.

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Staff commend the municipality for the number

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of relevant updates within the plan of conservation

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and development that align with the regional plan

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of conservation and development.

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One great example of alignment is the strategy to encourage mixed use and innovative housing models directly aligns with the regional goal to diversify the region's housing stock.

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The local plans update further aligns with the regional plan in improving bicycle and pedestrian safety through the streetscape improvements.

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Prioritizing in-field development to better take advantage of underutilized spaces that are already developed and pursuing parking alternatives to further reduce the footprint underutilized parking has in the region.

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This plan also aligns with the regional natural hazard mitigation plan N-H-M-P, as actions outlined in the update directly joined to do partnering with CROG to continue efforts related to the N-H-M-P.

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This plan does an incredible job at balancing the natural growth when their experiences while protecting and preserving existing natural resources.

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One recommendation of staff would be to review some of the highlighted density residential zones.

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An exam in the potential to allow duplexes and even triplexes, of course, with appropriate design guidelines

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to preserve the existing identity of those zones. Developments such as duplexes often seamlessly

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blend into the streetscape of a majority single family neighbourhoods with well written design standards in place,

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and offer no threat to affordable options for individuals looking to live in the more exclusively

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residential zones. Staff applause, the municipality in its extensive efforts to update the

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Windsor Plan of Conservation and Development. Crog looks forward to working with the municipality

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to accomplish the actions outlined across both the local and the regional plan. Public hearing

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been scheduled for February 24th, 2026, and in accordance with our procedure, this letter

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constitutes final crowdgaction on the three furl and questions should be referred to Jacob

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Nolton, and this was distributed to the planners in Windsor, Loxie, Scramby, East Windsor,

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Bloomfield, Hartford, and South Windsor.

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And it's signed Jennifer Bartis, early chairman of the Regional Planning Commission, William

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rise, Vice Chairman, Regional Planning Commission, and Jay Copnolton, Community Development

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Planning.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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So, I'll close the public hearing and do we have a motion?

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I moved at the...

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Madam.

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Excuse me.

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I'm sorry.

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Madam Chair, you indicated that there were some things that's right.

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You had some comments.

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I was just referring to the spreadsheet that you presented.

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I think those are all good and the only thing I'm concerned about is when we're going to

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duplexes or trip flexes or wherever is that parking, because I'm noticing in town now that

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we have a number of homes that they're parking on the front lawns. In fact, in one street

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the cloud of front lawn so the thick vehicle could park on that. If we're going to be going

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into that, we're going to have to make sure that I regulate and skip you like there has to

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be parking enough parking. That's one of the big things that I was noticing.

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Yes, ma'am, I'm duly noted. Thank you.

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You've been the awesome idea?

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No, because I think all of the changes that were on there, I don't see. I think everything is

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You've taken out certain little words and made sense, and you've added, you know, left in what I think should be left, and I think you did a great job.

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Is this a silly last word?

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Now, thank you.

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Thank you, Roy.

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Thank you, everybody.

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It's fine.

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It's fine.

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Oh, yeah.

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Maybe you should vote first for us or same.

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Thank you.

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I moved at the 20, 25 to 20, 35 proposed plan of kind.

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observation and development be adopted by this commission.

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Second.

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Second.

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Motion in a second.

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All in favour?

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High.

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Move to adjourn.

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Second.

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We don't.

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That was completed.

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Yes.

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Second.

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Second.

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Second.

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Second.

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OK.

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All in favour?

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Aye.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Here's someone who is developing responsibility.

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He's Frank Harris.

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Frank's paper route is a way of earning a little spending money.

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It's also a resort work to Frank.

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Especially when he sees the other fellows having fun.

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Wanna play Frank?

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Well, of course, Frank wants to play.

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But he can't now. He has work to do. He has papers to deliver.

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Frank will have to do his work better than that, doing a job well is part of being responsible for.

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There's a real dog, just that time Frank would like to have for his own,

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and there's Mr. Morgan who owns the dog.

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He wants to talk to Frank about something. Mr. Morgan is going to move to another town, so Frank will have to stop delivering the paper to him.

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You'll be here the rest of this week, so we want to pay Frank for the papers until Saturday.

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All right?

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You see, Frank is responsible for the money he collects.

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He thanks Mr. Morgan and gives him a receipt.

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Frank writes in his book the date to stop the paper, so he won't forget.

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Having a paper route is a lot more than just delivering papers.

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But Mr. Morgan has noticed how well Frank gets along with the dog,

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and who wouldn't get along with him.

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Frank thinks he's our first-rate dog.

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Mr. Morgan says, of course, he's pedigree'd.

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Isn't that something?

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And his name is Pao.

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That's right, Pao.

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He's the kind of dog who really is a Pao.

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Well, Frank has work to do, but just a minute.

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Mr. Morgan would like to know his name and address.

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Now, why do you suppose he wanted to know that?

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That evening at home, Frank carefully counts the money he is collected, because it doesn't all belong to him.

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He knows how important it is to keep careful accounts. He's responsible for the newspaper company's money.

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And while Dad for him, there's something Frank wants to show mother.

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He has a new customer starting tomorrow, obtaining new customers as part of Frank's job too.

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Frank thanks his father for the check.

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Dad will keep the money and take it to the bank tomorrow.

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Why? It's pal. Mr. Morgan brought him over.

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Mother, dad, here's Mr. Morgan in his wonderful dog.

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Mr. Morgan has been noticing Frank.

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He thinks Frank would like a dog, and he'd like Frank to have pal.

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Mr. Morgan is moving to another town, and an apartment where dogs aren't allowed.

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But, mother and dad aren't sure, a dog is a lot of work and responsibility for someone.

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Feeding him, giving him water, seeing that he gets exercise, he'll be so much trouble, can Frank be expected to take proper care of him?

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Well, Mr. Morgan thinks he can do it, and so does Frank.

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But that's being very cautious. He won't agree to let Paul stay until he's sure that Frank can manage this new responsibility.

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So that offers a plan.

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But Frank keep foul until Saturday,

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and show how well he can take care of him.

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But if this week doesn't work out,

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then Mr. Morgan will have to make other plans for foul.

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So Frank has an opportunity to show that he can be responsible.

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But now Mr. Morgan must go and leave foul to his new master.

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Let's hope he never has to take foul back.

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That wants to be sure Frank understands their bargain.

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Frank may keep pal until Saturday, but there are many things you'll have to do if you want to keep pal for good.

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Pal will have to have food and water. You'll need exercise morning and evening.

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He must be trained to obey. To know that Frank is now his master.

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Of course, Frank can't neglect his other responsibilities. His paper route, his schoolwork, his regular jobs around homes such as cleaning up his own room

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And carrying out the tin cans on Mondies, tin cans, Mondies.

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Frank must start right away showing that he can be responsible.

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He'll have quite a lot of work to do, but Powell's worth it isn't he.

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So the next day is a busy day for Frank.

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Powell gets his exercise on the paper root, but Frank has to deliver his papers and at the same time.

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Uh-oh, yes Frank has to keep his eyes on Powell too.

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But here's a good time to start training pal. Show him who's boss. Baby keep him on a leech.

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There.

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But delivering papers with a big dog on a leech can be pretty tiring.

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And by the time he reaches the end of the route, there goes the last paper though. All through. But here's another paper. Why? Where does it belong?

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Did Frank miss someone?

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Oh, that new customer. Frank forgot about that completely. And it's partly

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pals fault for making so much trouble. Well, nothing to do now, but go back,

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waste half an hour delivering that one paper. And what's more, Frank needs that

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half an hour. He didn't get time to straighten his room this morning. No.

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Things don't look very good for Frank. He just can't keep up all his responsibilities.

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And so late that evening, after Frank has finally finished his work for the day, he has a good talk with his dad.

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That is happy that Frank has a chance to earn such a fine dog, and pleased with Frank's work so far.

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But with so much to do, Frank must plan his time.

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Sometimes a new responsibility means you must make choices.

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Frank may have to leave Fall at home while he goes on the paper route, and then exercise him later in the evening.

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He may have to use the leash with pal, and train him to a bay.

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But just a little planning, just a determination to take care of all his responsibilities,

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will clear up Frank's worries.

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He may have to work hard, but he's determined to do it, so he'll be able to keep pal.

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That's what Frank's going to do, and he'll start by getting a good night's sleep.

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And so for the next few days Frank keeps busy with his paper route, his home and school responsibilities, and his pal.

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Part of it is hard work and part of it is good fun, but Frank does his best.

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For almost a whole week Frank keeps up his responsibilities. He has done his jobs, all of them, and he's done them well.

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And so on Saturday, Frank feels pretty sure he'll be able to keep his pal.

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Is that Mr. Morgan now?

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Yes, it is.

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Pal has been in Frank's care now for a week.

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And there's one thing Mr. Morgan wants to know.

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May Frank keep pal.

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What do you think?

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As Frank shown that he can be responsible?

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Let's think back.

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On his paper loot, Frank has carried out his responsibility to deliver each paper where it should go.

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To keep his accounts accurately, and to take good care of the money he collects.

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He has carried out his responsibility to give pal food and water,

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to see that he gets plenty of exercise, and to teach him to be obedient.

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Does your battery deliver extra life or extra power?

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Extra life, Extra life, Extra life.

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And Frank has shown that he can do these things

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and still keep up with his schoolwork

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and his responsibilities around the house.

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All this has taken planning and determination

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but Frank has managed very well.

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So, of course he may keep foul.

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Mother and Dad have agreed.

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Now, here's something else for Frank.

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What does the paper say?

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Oh, it's Powell's pedigree.

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Do you see, Powell?

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The pedigree papers belong to Frank now.

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And so does Powell.

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The Sandwich is practically American institution.

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It is a basic essential for lunch boxes, parties, and picnics.

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As far as these boys are concerned,

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well, hamburgers and hot dogs are their idea of a really good meal,

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but they're sandwiches and sandwiches.

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When Sally Gasko and her mother bring guests home for a late snack after a movie, they have something special in the way.

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Sallie calls it, Tuna Rare bit. That's what she makes it.

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This is a sandwich for forks, an open face creation, in other words, with a cheese, milk, and tuna fish mixture on top.

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The basis will be rye bread, mother's idea. She found that the spicy caraway flavor made a good contrast to the bland, fish and cheese.

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Sallie puts a cube, about a square inch, of butter, into the top of a double boiler. A little butter, if I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm

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It's way into a great many dishes in this kitchen, not only for flavor, but as a blending agent.

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Part of the trek to entertaining unexpected guests is keeping on hand certain generally useful foods.

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One of these is cheese of an easy melting type, which Sally is going to use as a base for the rabbit.

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To speed the melting, she cuts this into slices in the milk and butter mixture, while mother butters the bread.

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The simmer flame keeps the water boiling gently while the cheese is melting so that Sally can go on to other tasks.

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She adds the canned chunk-style tuna fish and notice that she uses a wooden spoon to avoid discoloration of the mixture.

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Although the tuna rabbit is fairly substantial food in itself, it is a good idea to add something for variation in color and texture.

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Mother is making a salad dish, celery, radishes, olives and pickles.

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Sally adds potato chips to the menu. They used to be exclusively picnic fair, but they've

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joined the host of useful accessory foods which make entertaining so much easier and more fun for teenagers.

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The bread was toasted quickly in the boiler, and the rabbit is nearly ready to serve.

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Let's see. What will be the beverage?

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Mother, thanks, you'll give the guests a choice of Coke or milk.

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When you can offer guests a choice easily, it's a gracious gesture.

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Now it's time to serve.

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Two slices of toast are neatly arranged on each plate, and the filling, or perhaps we

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should say covering, goes on top.

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Sally knows you should serve cream dishes with extra caution, and effective carelessness

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here is no asset.

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Mother is a great believer in the aesthetic value of parsley, and of course it's good to eat, too.

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Now a touch of Tabasco, for color and a taste surprise, and there's tuna rabbit, alasale gasco.

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As we said, there are sandwiches, and sandwiches.

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A wise young homemaker using good techniques and equipment and a little imagination can turn a sandwich and a fester fare.

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And welcome to the Windsor Town Council meeting for August 3rd, 2026. All councillors are here. I believe

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councilor Armstrong is online and will be coming over shortly.

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So we will work on getting councilor

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Armstrong into the meeting. And with that, that's our roll call items two and three on our agenda

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and the prayer and or reflection and the pledge of allegiance. And that will be led by councilor

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Thank you.

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Tonight, just reflecting on our last several months and thinking about

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community, communities are not defined by moments when everyone agrees.

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They're defined by how people choose to show up for one another when they don't.

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And in a time when so much around us encourages us to see each other as opponents in different

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ways, Windsor has the opportunity to choose a different path.

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to see one another first as neighbors.

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We have different perspectives, but we all care deeply about this community and the future we're building together.

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As we begin tonight, may we approach one another with humility, listen with curiosity, and remember that our shared commitment to Windsor is far greater than the issues that divide us.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under that individual liberty and justice is called.

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Thank you, Councillor Nain.

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This evening we do not have any proclamations or awards, so we'll move to item number five in our agenda, which is public communications and petitions.

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The town council welcomes in values public comment. We ask that all speakers conduct themselves with civility and respect.

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Please do not refer to other speakers by name or use the rotatory in flammatory or disrespectful language when expressing your views.

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Please note that this portion of the meeting is for the council to listen to public input.

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The council does not respond to questions or engage in discussion during the public comment period.

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Your comments will be received and considered as a part of the public record.

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Thank you for your participation and for helping to maintain a respectful and productive meeting.

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If you would like to address the council, we do ask that you step forward,

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state your name and address.

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You will be given three minutes to speak.

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And at the sound of the time we ask that you conclude your comments.

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At the 60 Second Mark, a yellow card will be raised.

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In at the 30 Second Mark, a red card will be raised.

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And at that time, we do ask that you conclude your comments, and at this time, I'll turn it over to our moderator, Assistant Town Manager Scott Colby.

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Thank you, Mr. Colby. So we'll come back to the town hall chamber, and we do ask if you'd like to address the council. Please step forward, state your name and address.

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And at the three-minute mark, please respond to the sound of the chime and conclude your comments.

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Good evening.

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Good evening.

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My name is Joel Herman.

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You as Army veteran, it's 62-year Windsor resident.

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I'd like to address the council on item from the last meeting.

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Who directed and drafted the contract negotiations for the flat camera system?

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From what I understand, the town attempted to contract with the flat with the provision

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that we would not help the federal government.

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In my opinion, you said that, Lord, you said the quiet part out loud.

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We accept an even chased federal funds, millions of dollars flowing to this town.

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This council doesn't have the authority to disregard the law of the land.

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If your convictions are so vital to the citizens of the town of Windsor, I challenge you

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to make a proclamation that as long as we don't agree with the federal government, we will

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refused to help, and in return, the town will not accept any federal funds.

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None. Integrity and convictions cannot be bought. There are what makes you. Good luck

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trying to explain to the town residents why we won't accept any federal funds. I realize

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the vote through a new flag has passed and expect the readers to come down in a timely manner.

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I was not for or against the readers, but now what about all the cameras the town has installed?

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Who gets the video and data from those cameras?

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As a taxpayer and a part owner of that system, I want to use to its fullest potential.

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A legitimate request for information should be exploited to apprehend all criminals.

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To know we had valuable information to solve a crime and not forward, it should be criminal.

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Don't let TDS cloud your common sense follow the law, not a liberal agenda.

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Good evening. I'm Maggie Essex, 95 Lighthouse Hill Road. I am the CIO and Fundraising Director for Windsor Little League, a parent of two players, a Windsor Little League softball coach, and I support the proposed Welch Park Field Improvement Project, and I'm asking you to also support it.

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Between the updates to the pool and pickleball courts, the upper part of Welch Park looks great.

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To complete the improved look of the whole park, the playing fields and accompanying buildings need updates as well.

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As a board of directors, Windsor Little League does what we can to partner with the town of Windsor to do our part and keeping up the fields at Welch.

454
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:53,700
With material donations and volunteer labor, several members of our Windsor Little League replaced the roofs of several dugouts,

455
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:59,520
out, repaired and painted fences to the best of our abilities, trimstries, painted several

456
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,440
of the exteriors of the buildings, and more just this year.

457
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,540
Would we like to do even more than that?

458
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,580
However, we know that this is a town park, so we work alongside the town to ensure that

459
00:46:10,580 --> 00:46:12,340
we are not overstepping our bounds.

460
00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:18,200
We are also a 501C3 nonprofit and can only do what we can with the funds and donations

461
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,640
we are able to bring in.

462
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:29,920
We've communicated with the town manager and direct departments to outline things Windsor Little League sees as a priority, and I'm glad to see that many of them are proposed improvements.

463
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:42,400
Last week, Windsor Little League was the host for the Connecticut State 921, all star baseball final for tournament, with teams from Waterford, Fairfield, South Windsor, and Southfield, Southernton.

464
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:54,400
Field 2 was the site of 7 games in 5 days. Several hundred players, coaches, parents, spectators, and district and state little league staff came to Welch for these games.

465
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:06,000
In preparation for this tournament, Windsor Little League volunteers worked countless hours to get the playing fields and spectating and parking areas in tip-top shape along with the town public work staff.

466
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,680
Big thanks to the town for providing portalets for this tournament.

467
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:15,200
The Windsor Little League Board of Directors and many players directed parking, great-advisitors,

468
00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:20,580
staffed the concession stand, kept the official gamebook and more, and we ensured the fields

469
00:47:20,580 --> 00:47:25,180
were prepped, especially after the surprise down poor on Wednesday that flooded the field and

470
00:47:25,180 --> 00:47:30,460
threatened to postpone the games another day. Because of this work, many visiting coaches and

471
00:47:30,460 --> 00:47:36,080
parents thanked Windsor for hosting, commented on what a great facility we have, expressed gratitude

472
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:41,260
for ensuring the fields were an optimum playing condition, and one even told me it was the best

473
00:47:41,260 --> 00:47:45,940
little league facility they'd ever been to. And because of our efforts, we've been asked

474
00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:50,140
to host this tournament again for the next two years, which is an incredible honor for Windsor

475
00:47:50,140 --> 00:47:55,700
Little League and our town. I know that hearing these comments might make it seem like these playing

476
00:47:55,700 --> 00:48:00,360
field area of the park doesn't need anything, but there are still absolute needed improvements.

477
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:05,260
Dog out still have holes in the walls, the stairs to the field one press box are not safe.

478
00:48:05,260 --> 00:48:10,660
safety nets are stretched and brittle. As a softball coach, I have cited to hear the ear

479
00:48:10,660 --> 00:48:16,000
emotional improvement as a part of the field one. But Windsor Little League is a long-standing

480
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:21,000
partner of Windsor. And I hope the town council will continue actively supporting Windsor Little

481
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,140
League and the kids who participate by approving the funds for the Welsh Park Field Improvement

482
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:26,420
Project. Thank you.

483
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:50,940
My name is Katie Essex and I live at 95 light household road. I'm here to ask you support

484
00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:53,980
Welch Park Field Improvement Project.

485
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,780
I am 13 years old and have participated in Windsor Littleleas since I was five years old in

486
00:48:59,780 --> 00:49:00,160
T-Bull.

487
00:49:00,740 --> 00:49:04,380
This spring I played my first season with the Junior Softball Program.

488
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:09,720
I've worked my way up through all the levels of Little League and have played on all the fields

489
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:13,440
at both Welch and Fish during those years.

490
00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:18,140
Through the last several years I have played on fields.

491
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,780
1 and 3 the softball fields.

492
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:26,980
And looking at the proposed improvements to Welsh, I agree that all points are needed.

493
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:33,300
During field cleanup days, I have helped try to rig fences on all fields to keep

494
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:40,300
harm points from broken fences so they don't end up being a danger in anchor in fences

495
00:49:40,300 --> 00:49:46,020
areas in the ground, so there's no option for balls to get under or players to get snagged

496
00:49:46,020 --> 00:49:46,820
on the fence.

497
00:49:46,820 --> 00:49:52,660
I've seen balls go through the mesh netting on a field one because it has gotten so brittle.

498
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,760
This proposes a danger to the players on the opposite field as those nets.

499
00:49:59,520 --> 00:49:59,980
Are there...

500
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,260
To stop the balls from going through to the other side. As most of my time in the majors and juniors levels

501
00:50:05,260 --> 00:50:13,780
was on field one, I have seen before myself the way the dugouts flood with rain, especially

502
00:50:13,780 --> 00:50:21,400
the first base dugout and have helped sweep and shovel water out so those dugouts out of

503
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:27,360
those dugouts in order for them to be used for games. I hope the update will also include an improvement

504
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:34,500
for a drainage to ensure the dugout trombone safe and dry. This year, I helped coach one of our

505
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:39,680
table teams, which played on field five. I know the main purpose of this field is for the

506
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,820
challenger program,

507
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:51,060
but the six, the four to six, zero to two ballers who use this field also

508
00:50:51,060 --> 00:50:53,180
need to see new dugouts.

509
00:50:53,840 --> 00:51:03,820
A team of in this age group is a bit of like hurting cats and they are drawn to the holes

510
00:51:03,820 --> 00:51:10,760
in the wall, loose dirt and on deck area and like to chip away at the flaking benches.

511
00:51:11,260 --> 00:51:17,240
Not only does this cause further damage in the dugout but these distractions are also risk

512
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:20,380
for injury and need to be fixed.

513
00:51:20,380 --> 00:51:27,140
The softball teams using Field 3 are older, but the dugouts are having many of the same issues as I mentioned on Field 5.

514
00:51:27,820 --> 00:51:30,760
I've gotten splintish from the dugouts on Field 3.

515
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:42,500
I hope you, the town council, will continue actively supporting Windsor Little League and the kids who participate and approve the funds for a Welsh park.

516
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,720
Field's Improvement Plan. Thank you for your time.

517
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:46,920
Thank you.

518
00:51:50,620 --> 00:51:51,600
It's in time.

519
00:51:58,050 --> 00:51:58,410
Good evening.

520
00:51:58,610 --> 00:52:01,570
Mark Mascola, 395, Prospect, Tolerado and.

521
00:52:02,450 --> 00:52:03,370
I'm Nathan.

522
00:52:03,930 --> 00:52:05,850
He lives with me as well.

523
00:52:06,370 --> 00:52:09,970
And I am the coach of the Winter Challenger Program, and for you,

524
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:17,470
that don't know, it is a special needs program that helps young adults and children play baseball.

525
00:52:18,370 --> 00:52:22,170
And we try to keep it safe and in a controlled environment.

526
00:52:22,170 --> 00:52:30,450
I would like to ask the council to make sure to approve the improvements for Welch Park because including that will be the dugouts

527
00:52:30,450 --> 00:52:37,410
the dugouts right now in addition to what the young lady just said being having holes are also small

528
00:52:37,410 --> 00:52:46,090
and the problem with that is we have people in wheelchairs and walkers and things that nature is very hard for them to get into the dugout

529
00:52:46,090 --> 00:52:51,390
The other issue is, and of course, like that with a table, you have more one-to-one parent

530
00:52:51,390 --> 00:52:57,470
tank or coaches or helpers with the kids in the dugout because very crowded and it's extremely

531
00:52:57,470 --> 00:53:03,230
difficult to get on on the field when it's there time to get up to the plate. So I ask you again,

532
00:53:03,570 --> 00:53:08,650
let's get those dugouts fixed for these kids so that they can continue to enjoy their baseball

533
00:53:08,650 --> 00:53:09,990
program. Thank you.

534
00:53:24,970 --> 00:53:29,310
Good evening, how. Once again, my name is Cory Ferner. I'm a resident 327

535
00:53:29,310 --> 00:53:33,370
I'm also part of the board of directors with Windsor Little League.

536
00:53:34,090 --> 00:53:38,310
I am here in favor of the Capital Improvement Funding.

537
00:53:39,570 --> 00:53:43,790
As everybody so eloquently before me said, the park is beautiful,

538
00:53:43,950 --> 00:53:46,150
but it does need still needs updating.

539
00:53:48,070 --> 00:53:52,580
As well as the hosting of the future tournaments,

540
00:53:54,030 --> 00:53:57,590
we have definitely been given the next two years,

541
00:53:57,590 --> 00:54:05,470
which has been great. We are hoping to continue this as well as continue with other age groups.

542
00:54:05,830 --> 00:54:12,410
So with that we're asking for the town to consider that with future funding as well as

543
00:54:13,830 --> 00:54:19,290
assistance from the town. Everybody was very, very grateful for everything that we have gotten so far

544
00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:22,570
and it has been amazing. Working with the different departments and the different people,

545
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:28,710
directors, etc. I couldn't speak me more highly about everybody. It's it's been amazing.

546
00:54:29,610 --> 00:54:37,750
But just moving forward we really like to have you guys all consider to come on down and enjoy a game.

547
00:54:38,050 --> 00:54:42,510
Support your local town. These kids are here. They want to play.

548
00:54:43,250 --> 00:54:45,700
And that's what we're here for. Thank you.

549
00:54:46,450 --> 00:54:47,370
Thank you.

550
00:54:59,460 --> 00:54:59,920
George

551
00:55:06,620 --> 00:55:23,180
It is time to get past the flock. But you won't allow that, because you haven't found the replacement yet. You have made this town less safe than it was in January.

552
00:55:23,180 --> 00:55:29,040
I was shaving the day after your vote and it dawned on me, the analogy.

553
00:55:31,390 --> 00:55:36,870
You got rid of Obama care but had no replacement for it.

554
00:55:37,210 --> 00:55:42,890
That has been the cry of the Republicans to give rid of it in Congress, but they have

555
00:55:42,890 --> 00:55:43,730
been found in a replacement.

556
00:55:45,110 --> 00:55:52,790
Other analogies, when you listen vaccine requirements, outch, measles, is coming back.

557
00:55:54,690 --> 00:55:57,430
I have to read this part.

558
00:55:58,090 --> 00:56:02,490
July 1st, 2025, heard this on public radio first.

559
00:56:03,410 --> 00:56:05,630
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

560
00:56:05,630 --> 00:56:08,770
stopped mandatory active tracking for six

561
00:56:08,770 --> 00:56:10,850
foodborne illness pathogens.

562
00:56:12,490 --> 00:56:15,050
One of them was psychospora.

563
00:56:15,530 --> 00:56:16,810
Big news now.

564
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,220
We won't get into when you get rid of the

565
00:56:23,220 --> 00:56:26,000
I ran nuclear deal what we face now.

566
00:56:26,580 --> 00:56:30,900
God only knows what risk we're taking when the FBI is getting rid

567
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:33,420
of the domestic terrorism unit.

568
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:40,240
All scaring, your job is to make this community safe.

569
00:56:41,380 --> 00:56:42,360
Not less safe.

570
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,220
I have no ties to flock.

571
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,520
Don't really care about the whole program.

572
00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:50,300
Just want you to have this town.

573
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:54,280
be as safe as it was in January or safer.

574
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,300
You have not done that.

575
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:57,860
You've made us less safe.

576
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:05,260
It's time for you to at least get us back to January of this year.

577
00:57:07,650 --> 00:57:09,030
Thank you, thank you.

578
00:57:16,190 --> 00:57:18,390
George Varney, 75 burials heel road.

579
00:57:18,590 --> 00:57:20,830
I'm going to bring it back to baseball real quick, sorry.

580
00:57:22,290 --> 00:57:27,110
Madam Mayor, council members, you heard a lot of comment today about the support

581
00:57:27,110 --> 00:57:32,670
of the funding, Welch Park is going to kind of echo a few things that made me about the

582
00:57:32,670 --> 00:57:32,990
tournament.

583
00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:34,830
It was a great turnout last time we were here.

584
00:57:34,990 --> 00:57:40,450
We mentioned that we were hosting the 11-ute state tournament at Windsor and as Corey

585
00:57:40,450 --> 00:57:46,590
shared with you, we have given the opportunity to take it two more years and what happens

586
00:57:46,590 --> 00:57:52,470
beyond that will be depend on how well we do and continue the success that we had in this

587
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:53,110
last tournament.

588
00:57:53,110 --> 00:58:01,510
If you didn't get a chance to come down, I wish you could have, because you would have seen a lot of supports and really great baseball in the state of Connecticut.

589
00:58:02,370 --> 00:58:09,710
One of our own district date, I don't know if you know, Windsor Little League is in district date, whenever our own district date teams actually competed in the competition.

590
00:58:10,550 --> 00:58:20,270
And our hope as we continue to grow, the program in Windsor is that some day our kids will have an opportunity to compete in that state tournament as well.

591
00:58:20,270 --> 00:58:28,030
to have that at our facility and to have our youth to be able to be a part of that and see how it's played, how it's run,

592
00:58:28,590 --> 00:58:33,670
the activity and excitement of it of the fans and the players alike gets them charged up.

593
00:58:33,870 --> 00:58:37,130
It makes them want to compete even more and want them to get involved.

594
00:58:38,090 --> 00:58:42,910
So we're very grateful to have this opportunity and we're very grateful to the town for the considering,

595
00:58:43,950 --> 00:58:48,170
the additional funding, and also I would encourage you, like was already shared.

596
00:58:48,170 --> 00:58:53,970
This is just the first step, and we hope that it will continue for some of the other improvements that are being discussed.

597
00:58:54,990 --> 00:59:01,550
And, and like we shared as well, Windsor Lily does a lot to supplement what the town can help us.

598
00:59:01,690 --> 00:59:11,350
We are in nonprofit. We do we have a lot of volunteers in the time and effort that went into just preparing for this tournament and then the activity during the tournament was phenomenal.

599
00:59:11,350 --> 00:59:19,170
We've got so many compliments from other towns that we're just really shocked is there are some folks that hadn't been back to Welch in a while

600
00:59:19,170 --> 00:59:22,550
And they're like what a what a great facility now you guys have really done some improvements here

601
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:27,570
The one town that was actually in the in the tournament from district date

602
00:59:29,490 --> 00:59:30,370
Oh, yeah

603
00:59:30,370 --> 00:59:40,030
Obviously it spent a lot of time at Welch and they saw a huge improvement and what we've done down there in the towns done so we're really excited and grateful for the support of the town

604
00:59:40,030 --> 00:59:42,430
And by all means, please come out.

605
00:59:42,490 --> 00:59:43,990
Next time we have some games out there,

606
00:59:44,070 --> 00:59:44,790
falls coming up.

607
00:59:44,890 --> 00:59:46,450
We're trying to get some games in before.

608
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:49,110
Hopefully this improvement activity happens.

609
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:52,870
And then, obviously next spring, we'll be back

610
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:54,450
and invite you guys down there again.

611
00:59:54,990 --> 00:59:55,750
So, thank you.

612
01:00:14,990 --> 01:00:33,510
My name is Karen Jackson. I'm a 31-conestoga here. I have a disability, so you have to excuse me the way I have to speak slower, because of my speech.

613
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:43,240
Good evening, Mayor, members of the Windsor Town Council. My name is Karen Jackson.

614
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:51,600
I'm here to ask for my concerns to be inserted in the public record regarding my treatment

615
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:57,780
by a member of the Windsor Police Department and the reactions thereafter.

616
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:03,840
I was stopped after midnight for a routine traffic stop.

617
01:01:04,460 --> 01:01:10,140
My, I was driving my son's car, his, the front light is out.

618
01:01:10,940 --> 01:01:15,420
So the officer made a quick, you turn and I was pulled over.

619
01:01:16,180 --> 01:01:19,700
He started banging on the back of the driver's side window.

620
01:01:20,420 --> 01:01:28,880
I have a PTSD, so I was already scared as it is.

621
01:01:29,020 --> 01:01:31,540
And when he saw I bang on the window, I pulled on my window and I said,

622
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:32,580
get your sergeant here.

623
01:01:32,580 --> 01:01:35,440
I have a blue envelope, that when there are police,

624
01:01:35,660 --> 01:01:40,240
gives people with my condition, or disability,

625
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,480
excuse me.

626
01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:45,760
And I wanted to sergeant there so they can see what it is.

627
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,860
So my reaction wasn't that I was so angry or upset,

628
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,720
wasn't personal, but they also took it personally.

629
01:01:54,380 --> 01:01:56,960
He was shining the flashlight into my eyes.

630
01:01:57,540 --> 01:01:58,980
I told him to stop doing that.

631
01:01:58,980 --> 01:02:00,500
He wouldn't stop doing that.

632
01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:07,280
I call dispatch to get a sergeant here there on scene, but no one ever came.

633
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:14,920
Instead, I was accused that dispatch told the officer and seen that I have sluggers speech.

634
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:19,420
I do because I had a stroke in 22, so my left side is messed up.

635
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:26,960
So, certain times in the evening, my mouth sounds like, I guess I'm drunk or I have no idea.

636
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,800
So I said, I shot it, I have a disability, I am not drunk.

637
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,460
He said, well I didn't say that, I dispatched it.

638
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,140
Whatever, I'm not.

639
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,360
But he extended the stop and stated that, um, and asked me, have I been drinking?

640
01:02:40,580 --> 01:02:43,960
I said, what reasonable article was suspicion to you have that I have been drinking?

641
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:45,660
Then he cut it off.

642
01:02:45,700 --> 01:02:50,900
My son came there and verified why it was his car.

643
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:53,540
The officer kept on shining the light in my eyes.

644
01:02:53,540 --> 01:02:57,160
for two weeks I couldn't see, and I still can't drive it night.

645
01:02:58,380 --> 01:03:00,820
So I saw a pink and blue for two weeks.

646
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,360
I already had an issue with Windsor Police

647
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,220
before I had when it came to my son.

648
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:12,040
Last Halloween, he's in the second year college now,

649
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:12,920
he's doing fine.

650
01:03:14,300 --> 01:03:15,900
But that's the only time I came here.

651
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,040
I was so afraid of the police that it took a while

652
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,620
for me even to Scott, and the lieutenant

653
01:03:20,620 --> 01:03:25,520
And I had to sit down with me last year to calm me down because I was that

654
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,540
fragile about the whole thing that happens to my son and before that.

655
01:03:29,860 --> 01:03:30,600
Now this happened.

656
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,240
Now the reason I'm here, I wouldn't have really come here, but I received something in

657
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:43,080
a mail from the police department saying that what the police did to me was correct.

658
01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:44,720
There's nothing wrong with it.

659
01:03:44,780 --> 01:03:47,080
And I find that very disconcerting.

660
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:57,140
So, that's it. I wanted to be investigated and looked into more. Scott has been fair as far

661
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:03,040
as sitting down with me. I have missed appointments to continue with him, but I wanted

662
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:08,080
somebody from the City Council to be there because I don't want to be there with a police

663
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:14,420
and Scott. I don't know how to maneuver the machine there because I wanted to see the body

664
01:04:14,420 --> 01:04:20,860
cameras of what happened so that's it. Thank you. Thank you.

665
01:04:43,590 --> 01:04:45,050
Hi, my name's Theresa Beatrice

666
01:04:45,050 --> 01:04:51,690
14 Parkway Drive. I'm reading something from a friend who is not available for tonight,

667
01:04:51,850 --> 01:04:59,350
so on her behalf with her permission. I'm sharing an email that she had sent to the town council.

668
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,700
For your gravel. And these are her words. I am writing to express my strong opposition to the proposed

669
01:05:06,700 --> 01:05:12,760
town center, storefront activation grant program, and respectfully urge the council to reject

670
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:19,460
this proposal. The town is proposing to allocate $350,000 toward a new storefront activation

671
01:05:19,460 --> 01:05:25,300
grant program while continuing to fund the existing facade improvement program. While these

672
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:28,520
programs are presented as investments in economic development.

673
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,640
They ultimately represent taxpayer-funded financial assistance

674
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,860
for improvements to privately owned commercial property.

675
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,080
The role of local government is to provide essential public services,

676
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,080
maintain infrastructure and share public safety,

677
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,780
exercise responsibility to which ship of taxpayer dollars.

678
01:05:47,300 --> 01:05:49,520
It should not be to finance private improvements

679
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,680
that primarily increase the value of privately owned assets.

680
01:05:53,680 --> 01:06:03,180
Over the years, Windsor has approved various tax abatements, incentives, and economic development agreements intended to encourage private investment.

681
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:09,160
Whether residents supported these decisions are not, they were justified as tools to simulate development.

682
01:06:09,740 --> 01:06:14,300
Now the town is proposing yet another layer of financial assistance through storefront grants.

683
01:06:14,940 --> 01:06:18,720
At what point does private investment become the responsibility of the private sector?

684
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:23,700
Successful businesses should succeed because they provide valuable goods and services

685
01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:27,480
make sound business decisions and invest wisely in their own properties.

686
01:06:28,020 --> 01:06:32,300
Not because government continues to create new subsidy programs funded by taxpayers.

687
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:39,420
Although revenues often described as new tax revenue, it is still public money collected through property taxes.

688
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:45,940
Once collected those dollars belong to the taxpayers and should be allocated in ways that provide broad public benefit,

689
01:06:45,940 --> 01:06:49,160
but rather than directing hundreds of thousands of dollars

690
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,380
toward grants for private store improvements,

691
01:06:52,380 --> 01:06:55,580
those funds could instead help offset future tax increases,

692
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,920
strengthen infrastructure, improve roads and sidewalks,

693
01:06:59,020 --> 01:07:01,120
support public safety, or reduce pressure

694
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,040
on future municipal budgets.

695
01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:05,520
As residents continue to experience

696
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,100
rising costs of living and increasing tax burdens,

697
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,280
I find it difficult to justify

698
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,400
allocating additional public funds

699
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,420
to projects that primarily enhance

700
01:07:14,420 --> 01:07:25,560
on commercial properties, or respectfully encourage you to focus on policies that benefit every business equally rather than creating another targeted subsidy program.

701
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:37,440
Maintaining competitive tax rates, streamlining, permitting, investing in public infrastructure, ensuring public safety and reducing unnecessary regulatory burdens,

702
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:46,260
our all-appropriate functions of the local government that foster private investment without requiring taxpayers to subsidize individual property owners.

703
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,800
These types of investments strengthen Windsor as a whole time of the environment.

704
01:07:51,580 --> 01:07:54,960
Where businesses choose to invest because the community is well managed.

705
01:07:55,380 --> 01:07:57,740
Not because government offers financial incentives.

706
01:07:58,380 --> 01:08:03,340
Thank you for your time, your service to the residents of Windsor and your thoughtful consideration of my comments.

707
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:03,900
Thank you.

708
01:08:04,060 --> 01:08:05,440
Thank you.

709
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:06,440
Thank you.

710
01:08:06,460 --> 01:08:07,840
Thank you.

711
01:08:22,450 --> 01:08:23,170
Hi, councillors.

712
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:24,190
Madam Mayor.

713
01:08:25,890 --> 01:08:26,550
But just past.

714
01:08:27,010 --> 01:08:28,690
So we're going to move on from that.

715
01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:31,530
My main reason for, for, for.

716
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:32,470
Introduce your name.

717
01:08:32,710 --> 01:08:34,510
Oh, John's to bowl the 33-level road.

718
01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:35,510
Hi, I apologize.

719
01:08:37,530 --> 01:08:40,350
My reason to be here today is, is for a couple of reasons.

720
01:08:40,530 --> 01:08:45,370
I was going to touch the kind of whole storefront thing, but due to the fact that I'm not

721
01:08:45,370 --> 01:08:49,650
truly educated on it the best I'm not going to until I'm better educated on it.

722
01:08:49,650 --> 01:08:59,230
I will say, I think that we should holster that after we just kind of asked our town residents to pay their kids to play sports.

723
01:09:00,150 --> 01:09:10,790
I wouldn't actually bring up using taxpayer money to invest in and or rehabilitate private businesses and private establishments.

724
01:09:12,450 --> 01:09:25,910
With that being said, you know, it's, I want to thank Darlene and I want to thank Madam Mayor and I want to thank Kristen Ron, all you guys came up to me and you shook my hand about what we're trying to do for the kids in town, and I want to thank you for that.

725
01:09:26,270 --> 01:09:30,930
It means a lot to me. I'm just a private citizen. I'm just somebody who's going out there trying to create change.

726
01:09:31,670 --> 01:09:39,650
One thing I will bring up is some rhetoric that's recently been used against me on Facebook forums when I've given people nothing but respect.

727
01:09:39,650 --> 01:09:44,610
have not attacked them personally, have not attacked what they stand for, have not attacked

728
01:09:44,610 --> 01:09:45,290
the differences.

729
01:09:46,310 --> 01:09:52,130
But for somebody to be on the sitting member of the board of ed, to say that I deliberately

730
01:09:52,130 --> 01:09:57,710
set fire to the budget, and now I'm trying to walk in like a hero on a fire truck and

731
01:09:57,710 --> 01:09:59,630
put it out, is reprehensible.

732
01:10:00,340 --> 01:10:07,640
It's absolutely crazy. All right? I know I probably can't call them out by name, but I have the comments

733
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:14,220
if you would like to see it and I'm hoping that they're reprimanded from that. In conclusion, I want

734
01:10:14,220 --> 01:10:20,580
to apologize to Peter Sousa. Peter, I've gone through your budget since 2020. You do a fine job.

735
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:26,560
One business man to another business man, this town will be lost without you. He wants more money

736
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:33,320
give it to him. Straight up, I'm letting you guys know. You run it lean and mean and your increases

737
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:38,220
never really go above the rate of inflation. You do a good job. Okay? But I want the

738
01:10:38,220 --> 01:10:45,180
rhetoric to stop. I'm donating my time. I'm donating my effort in my money to help families

739
01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:49,940
I don't even know. And you have sitting members of the Board of Ed attacking me personally.

740
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:52,320
Absolutely unacceptable.

741
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:54,380
Thank you.

742
01:10:54,420 --> 01:10:55,020
Thank you.

743
01:11:06,150 --> 01:11:06,310
Thank you.

744
01:11:06,410 --> 01:11:10,790
Seeing know what the speakers moving forward will bring public communications and petitions

745
01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:12,010
to a close.

746
01:11:13,010 --> 01:11:14,830
And thank you to all of our speakers this evening.

747
01:11:15,170 --> 01:11:16,090
Thank you for taking the time.

748
01:11:16,610 --> 01:11:18,790
And again, we really, really appreciate your engagement.

749
01:11:19,390 --> 01:11:19,870
Any letter.

750
01:11:21,050 --> 01:11:21,870
Email that is sent.

751
01:11:22,130 --> 01:11:24,630
Know that all the counselors we do take time to read them.

752
01:11:24,830 --> 01:11:25,690
So thank you.

753
01:11:27,070 --> 01:11:28,810
Moving on to item number six.

754
01:11:28,810 --> 01:11:36,810
communications from council members, I wanted to first begin by saying that a lot is happening

755
01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:41,890
here in Windsor throughout the summer, the concert series, the farmers market, there's always

756
01:11:41,890 --> 01:11:50,310
something going on downtown Windsor that you can be a part of. On Sunday July 26, Grace Church,

757
01:11:50,430 --> 01:11:57,970
they had a beautiful service kicking off Caribbean celebration week. There was a steel band,

758
01:11:57,970 --> 01:12:00,110
So I wanted to talk about that.

759
01:12:00,290 --> 01:12:03,650
It was just beautiful to see folks from our town.

760
01:12:04,090 --> 01:12:06,430
There are members of the church as well as others coming

761
01:12:06,430 --> 01:12:07,950
into town for that.

762
01:12:08,110 --> 01:12:11,350
And then on Tuesday, we welcomed peak dental implants

763
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:13,770
to our town, beautiful facility.

764
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:16,910
So if that's something you're into, I would hope everybody

765
01:12:16,910 --> 01:12:17,290
up here.

766
01:12:17,330 --> 01:12:19,050
Maybe you've had your wisdom teeth out already.

767
01:12:19,570 --> 01:12:21,850
But if they're still lingering, you need to get that done.

768
01:12:22,590 --> 01:12:23,910
You can check out peak dental.

769
01:12:24,110 --> 01:12:25,890
She'd be happy to do it.

770
01:12:25,890 --> 01:12:33,990
So I welcome to Dr. Hannon's in team and lastly, I do want to say as a proud Caribbean

771
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:40,950
American happy emancipation August 1st was emancipation day and we continue our celebration

772
01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:42,050
throughout the week.

773
01:12:42,270 --> 01:12:48,250
We conclude West Indian Celebration Week on Saturday with the parade, so if you'd like to

774
01:12:48,250 --> 01:12:53,550
join us, the parade kicks off at 11 and we end up in Bushville Park, so just wanted to

775
01:12:53,550 --> 01:12:58,890
say that many West Indian countries have their independent celebrations throughout this first week

776
01:12:58,890 --> 01:13:03,490
of August. So, just had to say happy of anticipation and happy West Indian celebration

777
01:13:03,490 --> 01:13:08,030
to all. That being said, consider it.

778
01:13:09,550 --> 01:13:10,830
Thank you. Madam Mayor.

779
01:13:11,690 --> 01:13:12,330
Thank you.

780
01:13:12,330 --> 01:13:13,450
Put your makeup on.

781
01:13:14,590 --> 01:13:15,230
Thank you.

782
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:22,130
It's a pleasure to be here tonight. I just want to say that it's been a lot of rain. I have a lot

783
01:13:22,130 --> 01:13:28,590
comments, but I'm going to save them to the appropriate sections. I hope all the residents

784
01:13:28,590 --> 01:13:32,710
have brought out their pumps and got their yards all pumped out, maybe.

785
01:13:35,050 --> 01:13:35,570
And I have all

786
01:13:35,570 --> 01:13:39,490
was doing well with all the counselors and all the members with the audience and with all the

787
01:13:39,490 --> 01:13:43,810
elements. And on that, I conclude one of my comments. Thank you, Councillor Grant.

788
01:13:43,950 --> 01:13:50,110
Thank you, Madam Mayor. I just want to thank everyone for coming out tonight, especially the little

789
01:13:50,110 --> 01:13:54,990
for folks like I need to get a shirt I feel like I'm left out right now you know what I mean

790
01:13:54,990 --> 01:13:57,870
so let me know where I get one of those but otherwise I hope everyone's having a really

791
01:13:57,870 --> 01:14:00,710
good summer as a matter of mayor alluded to there's a lot of really fun things that are

792
01:14:00,710 --> 01:14:05,170
happening a lot of cool events over the next few weeks so hopefully come out and just to

793
01:14:05,170 --> 01:14:10,270
enjoy the town and I'll turn it back over. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you madam mayor

794
01:14:10,270 --> 01:14:15,910
just keep it quick just want to reiterate as I've done a little while now the Windsor

795
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:21,390
volunteer fire department has their battle of the badges, charity softball tournament that

796
01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:22,050
is coming up.

797
01:14:22,170 --> 01:14:27,630
It is going to be at Windsor High School, starting at 9 a.m. on August 15th, that's the date

798
01:14:27,630 --> 01:14:31,070
that I have in front of me with a rain day of the 20 second.

799
01:14:32,670 --> 01:14:39,550
So there is no admission, if you will, it is free, but any beneficiary that you can have

800
01:14:39,550 --> 01:14:43,970
in any donations they want to have, go to the Fallen Firefighters Memorial at the Connecticut

801
01:14:43,970 --> 01:14:48,870
fire academies. So very good, very good worthy cause. You can see some of the

802
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:54,270
heroes from our town, along with members of other departments from around

803
01:14:54,270 --> 01:14:59,110
the area. So one of those things just come on out to the high school, support

804
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:59,990
here is put your local f-

805
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:05,480
Thank you.

806
01:15:08,940 --> 01:15:14,380
Thank you. I did not talk about the frido seal, because I knew for sure you were, but you didn't mention it.

807
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:22,200
Okay. Well, the frido seal was wonderful on July 25 for the Wilson Fire Department. It's always good time.

808
01:15:22,340 --> 01:15:25,260
They always sell out. I just thought council pelky was going to say it.

809
01:15:26,900 --> 01:15:28,120
Thank you, Councilor Perky.

810
01:15:28,540 --> 01:15:28,880
Councilor Perky.

811
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:30,640
Thank you so much.

812
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,020
I just want to thank all of our speakers for coming out, especially the Luleague.

813
01:15:34,740 --> 01:15:39,160
Thank you for all you do to keep those fields preserved by now the Tom puts in a lot.

814
01:15:39,780 --> 01:15:45,340
But what you all do is showing the extra level of dedication and looking forward to getting more engaged.

815
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:53,660
I played a little bit of at home table this summer with my daughter, so I'm a little scared of her swing because she likes to practice it indoors.

816
01:15:53,660 --> 01:15:57,460
somebody we've been figuring out how to handle that next summer.

817
01:15:58,220 --> 01:15:59,300
I think you're absolutely.

818
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:05,160
So I think I've had a mere card most things that have been happening this summer.

819
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,740
I just want to acknowledge and I think August hit us pretty fast.

820
01:16:08,900 --> 01:16:15,120
And I shot to get a back to school reminder email this morning with all the details of what I got to prepare for.

821
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,760
I'm like, oh, we're here already.

822
01:16:16,780 --> 01:16:17,360
Here we go.

823
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:25,100
So just to remind everyone to check out what's coming up for your kids, I know we have a

824
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:28,900
back to school block party coming up, I know we have a Board of Education report, I'm sure

825
01:16:28,900 --> 01:16:30,480
they'll be hitting on more of that.

826
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:36,960
But I'm enjoying the last few weeks of summer without school, take advantage of all the wonderful

827
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:43,120
things that our town has to offer, our pools, our recreational services, time flies too fast,

828
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,220
so make sure you're getting out and take an advantage of all that.

829
01:16:46,540 --> 01:16:47,220
Thank you.

830
01:16:47,220 --> 01:16:48,380
Thank you.

831
01:16:48,580 --> 01:16:49,340
Count to all those.

832
01:16:50,180 --> 01:16:50,700
Count to all those.

833
01:16:51,260 --> 01:16:51,580
Count to all those.

834
01:16:51,580 --> 01:16:51,960
Count to all those.

835
01:16:52,060 --> 01:16:52,700
Do you do this every?

836
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:54,260
I see her.

837
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:56,700
Just want to make sure you haven't forgotten.

838
01:16:57,100 --> 01:16:57,420
I didn't.

839
01:16:59,660 --> 01:17:08,080
I want to thank those who came out to speak, especially Katie and Nathan who came out and spoke,

840
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,860
takes some guts to come out in front of a group of people to speak.

841
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,420
So congratulations to two of you.

842
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:20,800
The Thursday on the Green, we still have the concerts going, so please do enjoy them.

843
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:25,220
They're a great opportunity to meet your neighbors and enjoy some good music.

844
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,340
And be safe for the rest of the summer.

845
01:17:27,580 --> 01:17:29,420
Try to stay cool and back to you.

846
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:32,460
Thank you.

847
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:33,880
So what counts are all about?

848
01:17:34,460 --> 01:17:35,340
Ms. Mary, are you ready?

849
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,120
Yes, Ms. Mary.

850
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:44,300
evening to ball, it was a joy to see our little leaders come out and I think that I was

851
01:17:44,300 --> 01:17:47,980
impressed that we might have some journalists and the whole leaders.

852
01:17:49,260 --> 01:17:56,700
I also want to say that we have great activities in places to go in the town of Windsor

853
01:17:56,700 --> 01:18:03,720
and I'm often there supporting them in the activities and I probably put on my agenda to come

854
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:11,540
of the leaders' gains, it sounds exciting. With that being said, I think most of has been said,

855
01:18:11,780 --> 01:18:18,560
I did enjoy being at the Joe or the FIDO or was a great event for the FIDO.

856
01:18:22,060 --> 01:18:23,960
But with that being said,

857
01:18:23,980 --> 01:18:33,700
take care of yourselves and enjoy the rest of the song. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Thank you,

858
01:18:33,700 --> 01:18:36,960
comments about the Windsor literally, thank you so much for being here this evening, but

859
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:42,780
when they wanted to touch on Maggie, discussed it, being offered the opportunity to host

860
01:18:42,780 --> 01:18:47,780
these tournaments. That's a great testament to all of you, all the families that have been

861
01:18:47,780 --> 01:18:52,240
involved a little league prior to you and now current. So I know most of them. I know how hard

862
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:56,240
you all work and for all the things that you all have done, not just for the little league,

863
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:00,740
but for baseball in general in all the town. So I appreciate that, and I think the town does

864
01:19:00,740 --> 01:19:06,200
to. We owe you a great debt of gratitude for that. And just to mention public works, if

865
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,440
you see them out, say, thank you for all they do. They work really hard, especially in

866
01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:14,580
this horrible weather and heat. In the record department, everything they've done this year,

867
01:19:14,940 --> 01:19:19,460
especially this summer, they're working really hard with the camps. And to Mr. Stavola, thank

868
01:19:19,460 --> 01:19:22,680
you so much for stepping up and helping us put that together. I know you're working with

869
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,780
the school. And that's all I have. Thank you.

870
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:32,700
You may. I just want to say have a great summer. Thank you.

871
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:40,460
It's always great to hear when folks can come into Windsor and say how much they

872
01:19:40,460 --> 01:19:45,420
enjoyed it so we can't thank you enough. Windsor Little League comes looking I already have

873
01:19:45,420 --> 01:19:52,400
a hat so maybe. Yeah you don't. You have a hat right. So I guess we need shirts is what we're

874
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,300
safe. But we can purchase them that can be a fundraiser for all of us right?

875
01:19:55,300 --> 01:19:59,980
next one. Okay. All right, so on to item number seven is repeat.

876
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,180
Court's of appointed boards and commissions will begin with the Board of Education, Secretary Zatter.

877
01:20:12,910 --> 01:20:19,990
Good evening. I hope everyone is enjoying their summer. I can tell you that our superintendent and her

878
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:31,470
cabinet and her administrators are busy working, reading the school for kids. The start date of school is September 1st this year, so back to September.

879
01:20:32,970 --> 01:20:37,810
Families are reminded to please update their returning children's information and power

880
01:20:37,810 --> 01:20:40,490
school to have to re-register them every year.

881
01:20:40,650 --> 01:20:44,550
It's important to update phone numbers and make sure we have the correct emergency contacts

882
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:45,770
for when school starts.

883
01:20:46,850 --> 01:20:51,270
The summer food program is going to conclude on August 21st.

884
01:20:51,610 --> 01:20:57,450
We have our fifth annual Windsor Public School back to school block party that the Office

885
01:20:57,450 --> 01:21:02,110
family and community partnership has been sponsoring the district website will have more

886
01:21:02,110 --> 01:21:05,730
information in the upcoming weeks as an amazing event. We encourage all the parents

887
01:21:05,730 --> 01:21:13,590
and the students to come. The first regular board meeting is going to be on Tuesday, September

888
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:20,930
15th at 7 p.m. in the board room and then just a reminder to all of the families to visit

889
01:21:20,930 --> 01:21:29,010
the website www.winsercit.org for the most current information, athletic schedules, and academic

890
01:21:29,630 --> 01:21:30,110
calendars.

891
01:21:32,580 --> 01:21:33,400
I'm a zeddy.

892
01:21:35,860 --> 01:21:39,840
I thought you wanted to tell me something about a school or a student or a student or a student.

893
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:40,840
They're off for the summer off.

894
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,420
She always has something to tell.

895
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:43,040
I know.

896
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,900
So I didn't know if you were doing something over the summer or I mean there's a lot that's

897
01:21:47,900 --> 01:21:49,640
going on in the summer.

898
01:21:49,860 --> 01:21:52,480
I mean again, the mobile school bus has been out and about.

899
01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:56,700
I think the kids have very much been enjoying that.

900
01:21:56,900 --> 01:22:01,420
It is something that parents do love to sign their kids up for.

901
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:03,020
It is absolutely phenomenal.

902
01:22:03,660 --> 01:22:07,980
I'd love to see both of us and our staff getting out there

903
01:22:07,980 --> 01:22:10,320
into the community even during the summer months.

904
01:22:10,860 --> 01:22:14,240
So, yes, always something happening in the Windsor Public School System

905
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:15,480
even during the summer months.

906
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,120
Thank you so much for that.

907
01:22:17,180 --> 01:22:19,680
And I know on the Windsor Public School website,

908
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,740
If you want to know where the mobile school bus is going to be, that's what it looks there.

909
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:24,940
So thank you.

910
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:25,540
All right.

911
01:22:25,740 --> 01:22:27,160
Councilors, questions, comments?

912
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:28,560
Councilpoke.

913
01:22:29,780 --> 01:22:34,340
I've been feeling a lot of just inquiries just regarding with the sports and the payment,

914
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:35,000
et cetera.

915
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:40,420
One of the biggest questions I've had, I hope that you can maybe give some insight into.

916
01:22:43,340 --> 01:22:46,760
The different levels, if you will, people have in their minds that,

917
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:53,000
Well, this requires almost nothing and football requires all this equipment, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

918
01:22:53,540 --> 01:23:01,500
So even the insight that you can share to the public for how those funding levels were sort of determined to be or those payment levels to participate?

919
01:23:02,180 --> 01:23:07,180
Yeah, so a lot of it is based on the cost of the actual sport and when we think about that.

920
01:23:07,260 --> 01:23:16,280
So if you think about the football team, right, the reason that those costs were able to stabilize a little bit is because we already pay for some of those expenses on the tickets, right?

921
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:21,280
the ticket sales. So it's not like we're taking in the money from the ticket sales and it's

922
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:27,100
going to the schools. We're paying for the security. We are paying, which has we've

923
01:23:27,100 --> 01:23:31,760
needed to make a little bit stronger over the past couple of years. Right? It helps to pay for

924
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:36,600
the equipment. The coaches to, right? The administrative staff for the coaches. Like all of

925
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:41,080
that is funded through the athletics budget.

926
01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:45,420
So you have sports,

927
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,680
all everyone is going to need uniforms,

928
01:23:48,180 --> 01:23:49,320
everyone is going to need equipment,

929
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,640
and it's just really a matter of,

930
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,040
like, is it played on the field,

931
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,740
where we're gonna need to support the maintenance,

932
01:23:58,140 --> 01:24:00,900
is it due to, again, security needs,

933
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,120
is it due to, how many people we usually have

934
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,300
come to the events?

935
01:24:05,300 --> 01:24:11,940
So that all of that was taken into consideration when looking at the tiers, I don't have

936
01:24:11,940 --> 01:24:17,540
a rundown exactly of what all of the expenses are per sport, but we could, again, if

937
01:24:17,540 --> 01:24:20,020
the need arises, we can absolutely get that.

938
01:24:20,420 --> 01:24:22,280
No, I'm sure at this school board, you get into details.

939
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,320
I'm just trying to give another form for the folks that did this.

940
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:24,700
Absolutely.

941
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:32,940
And then for folks who, their students who want to participate and should be able to participate

942
01:24:32,940 --> 01:24:38,660
but they're in three or I don't know exactly if you can fit into a fourth sport or activity like that,

943
01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:46,700
but there are economic challenges. How is that able to be handled?

944
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:55,060
Yep. So part of the cost to write in the assumption and where they balanced that out was looking at

945
01:24:55,060 --> 01:24:59,980
Statistics, Dr. Haiti is very committed to me.

946
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:25,000
So we look at the number of people that have been enrolled in sports. The percentage of students that have free, free lunch waivers, right? So those students will have the fees waived. Children that have or eligible for free or reduced lunch will have their fees reduced by 50%.

947
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:32,100
And then there is a family cap so no one family will pay over $650 for a school year.

948
01:25:32,300 --> 01:25:37,500
So if you have three kids and three kids are playing three different sports and high school,

949
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,000
they will only charge to a certain cap.

950
01:25:41,780 --> 01:25:51,380
And this, again, was this was done because we want all of the kids in town to be able to play a sport

951
01:25:51,380 --> 01:25:55,900
if they want to regardless of where their family stands economically.

952
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:06,200
Thank you. And then just one, I hope final question related to just the whole pay to play with it, if you will.

953
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:18,180
I think it comes down to where a lot of folks have felt that this was a surprise to them.

954
01:26:18,180 --> 01:26:26,480
So how are you communicating it and how is it that folks can sign up and is there like a payment plan?

955
01:26:26,860 --> 01:26:31,000
Obviously for something in the spring, but I'm thinking more for the fall activities in particular.

956
01:26:31,500 --> 01:26:34,600
I'm sure coaches and breeders here that have had me try to reach out.

957
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:39,140
But if you could just kind of give an explanation to folks for a payment plan.

958
01:26:39,140 --> 01:26:40,140
Yes, it comes up.

959
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:41,720
I'm sorry.

960
01:26:41,940 --> 01:26:43,560
But your mic was it down in?

961
01:26:43,700 --> 01:26:44,180
I'm sorry.

962
01:26:44,180 --> 01:26:45,260
Just a need of a record.

963
01:26:45,820 --> 01:26:46,300
No, it's fine.

964
01:26:46,300 --> 01:26:49,660
So I'll quickly restate, just, a lot of folks

965
01:26:49,660 --> 01:26:52,100
just kind of felt like they got sprung on them,

966
01:26:52,420 --> 01:26:53,080
or what they're hearing.

967
01:26:54,140 --> 01:26:56,280
So how are we reaching out to make sure

968
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,260
that families know about this?

969
01:26:58,620 --> 01:27:00,460
And then, how do they actually,

970
01:27:00,700 --> 01:27:03,280
how is the payment going to be handled the process?

971
01:27:03,620 --> 01:27:05,780
Again, just another platform for you to get the information out of it.

972
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,180
Yep, so the first thing I want to say is that

973
01:27:09,180 --> 01:27:11,500
at the very beginning of these budget conversations,

974
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,320
and this has been said many, many years.

975
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:20,900
pay for plays something that we have that has been a potential for years that we've been able to

976
01:27:20,900 --> 01:27:22,120
skirt around.

977
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:28,900
During all of the conversations that Dr. Haiti had with the public, when the question was asked,

978
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,900
well if this budget doesn't pass and you have to cut like what are some of the things

979
01:27:32,900 --> 01:27:38,260
that you are considering and pay for play was one of the things that she mentioned during

980
01:27:38,260 --> 01:27:40,360
all of those conversations. So,

981
01:27:42,580 --> 01:27:46,620
I know that it might have taken some people by surprise,

982
01:27:47,260 --> 01:27:51,340
but I think I also want to make sure that people are grounded in the fact that this is not a

983
01:27:51,340 --> 01:27:58,360
Windsor only thing. There are actually one of the few towns that does not have pay for play sports.

984
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:05,040
And I also want to address the fact that, you know, there's a lot of rhetoric around there that

985
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,860
this is vindictive for people who chose not to vote for the budget.

986
01:28:11,480 --> 01:28:15,220
The goal of a public school is to educate our kids.

987
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,180
And I'm reminded of that oftentimes when I come up here and I, you know,

988
01:28:21,020 --> 01:28:25,500
have learned that I now will present more data about the amazing work that our kids are doing

989
01:28:25,500 --> 01:28:33,040
scholastically, but this sports is an amazing outlet for kids.

990
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:38,380
And we are able to engage kids in education that we wouldn't otherwise be if they didn't have

991
01:28:38,380 --> 01:28:41,200
the support and the family that they developed during sports.

992
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:46,960
But sports is not the mission of a public school.

993
01:28:47,420 --> 01:28:53,320
So when we look at budget cuts, we have to look at what is going to be the furthest thing

994
01:28:53,320 --> 01:29:01,860
from the classroom, from the education, from the test scores that people are constantly telling

995
01:29:01,860 --> 01:29:07,840
are not good enough. So it was a hard decision and it was an awful decision and it was not a decision

996
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:12,700
that anyone on the board wanted to approve, but when we looked about where we could cut that would

997
01:29:12,700 --> 01:29:20,660
not impact scholastically, which again is fundamentally what we are here for to do for our children.

998
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:29,640
This is where I came from. So this was not done vindictively. This was done with everyone on the board,

999
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:37,960
not wanting to do this, but not seeing a way that we could cut something else that wouldn't eliminate teachers or staff.

1000
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,020
So even through this, we're not eliminating coaches.

1001
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:42,860
We're not eliminating sports.

1002
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,440
We're able to maintain everything we have.

1003
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:51,820
It just, yes, unfortunately, is going to require parents to have to pay a certain amount for their children.

1004
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:58,640
That being said, I do not have an answer for you on if there will be payment plans.

1005
01:29:58,640 --> 01:29:59,980
I think that would have to be a sense.

1006
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:09,220
I'm going to ask you a question, because they would be the folks that are responsible for bringing that money in and then paying out to that budget item.

1007
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:22,900
But that is definitely something that I can take back and make sure that announcements are made. If that is something that is available that the public knows, that it is available and how they can reach out to central office to set up that arrangement.

1008
01:30:24,140 --> 01:30:28,940
But again, and you answered one of the questions that I was going to ask you, Secretaries

1009
01:30:29,780 --> 01:30:37,800
Otter, in regards to how the decision was made, but you answered that it came back to the Board of Education.

1010
01:30:37,820 --> 01:30:43,120
The Board of Education was aware that this was going to happen and move from there.

1011
01:30:43,500 --> 01:30:46,300
Board of Education was aware, but it didn't know exactly like dollar amounts.

1012
01:30:47,220 --> 01:30:51,440
To answer the latter part of your question comes from how every parent received a letter.

1013
01:30:51,440 --> 01:30:55,920
That information is going out again, like with those, we get these big packets.

1014
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:00,080
For back to school, there's constant names that, like, it's going to be thoughtful to everything.

1015
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:07,360
So I have to determine my $100 for my young man to play basketball at the middle school, absolutely.

1016
01:31:08,220 --> 01:31:15,580
So I appreciate that the board, Dr. Haley and her cabinet, sent the information out to families and they were able to access that.

1017
01:31:15,580 --> 01:31:21,200
And it's also on our town, but I'm excuse me on the board of Ed, a website, so I just want to answer the latter part

1018
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,520
Just want the information after for folks

1019
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:29,440
But oh, no, we know they got it. I think everybody wins. Oh, I mean, if I'm ever close to don't necessarily have a young one

1020
01:31:29,820 --> 01:31:34,880
No, I'm just in their charge so every parent in wins are got that letter

1021
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:44,500
That went out to the masses across town. Yeah, so thank you. Yes, I'm so so if I may ask you because I'm the money guy

1022
01:31:44,500 --> 01:32:01,420
So I've always got to say the money question, how much money do you notice, how many student sports, kids are involved, meaning if one student's playing three sports that would be three students, do you know how many kids are doing sports?

1023
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:09,520
So again, I definitely don't have that number. I know Dr. Haiti has all of that information though because that was part of the data that they looked at, right?

1024
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:14,400
because part of what the fee came into to is like again how many kids what is going to be

1025
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:20,060
the amount of money we're trying to cover what are the and how many kids do we believe

1026
01:32:20,060 --> 01:32:24,340
will be in a sport based on historical information and I do believe that they also considered

1027
01:32:24,340 --> 01:32:28,660
a buffer that there might be some parents that don't want to pay for their kids to you know

1028
01:32:28,660 --> 01:32:34,820
to play sports so I think they they looked at you know some differing percentages on you

1029
01:32:34,820 --> 01:32:42,440
reduction of kids playing as well. And, like, I don't think this is something that I do

1030
01:32:42,440 --> 01:32:47,480
know, I can speak for me, and I can speak for several board members, too, that, like, we

1031
01:32:47,480 --> 01:32:55,780
are hoping that this isn't a long term solution. Like, we would love to not have to do pay

1032
01:32:55,780 --> 01:33:04,800
for play sports. So that is definitely something come budget season that we are going to be

1033
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:11,420
and cut corners that wouldn't impact direct student education.

1034
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,620
You know, everything new budget cycle is back on the table.

1035
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:23,620
And we do know that this has not been a welcome announcement to a lot of parents,

1036
01:33:23,780 --> 01:33:27,580
but I am happy to also see that there have been some parents that have been supportive

1037
01:33:27,580 --> 01:33:31,920
that understand other towns do pay for play and have been happy the fact that Winsers

1038
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:38,380
been able to support the sports through the schools for as long as we have, so thank you.

1039
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:45,640
So if I just may follow that up, if you, I'm sure you don't have the number on you or with you,

1040
01:33:46,260 --> 01:33:53,920
but how much are you anticipating collecting from this? Because I know the cut was I think 235,000.

1041
01:33:54,420 --> 01:33:54,420
Yes.

1042
01:33:56,680 --> 01:34:01,620
And yeah, I only looked at the number once that number for some reason resonates in my

1043
01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:06,520
How much do you anticipate being able to collect from this pay for play?

1044
01:34:07,260 --> 01:34:10,760
Again, I don't, because I don't have the information that Dr. Haiti was using.

1045
01:34:10,940 --> 01:34:15,680
I would feel, I feel like it's inappropriate for me to make a guess on that.

1046
01:34:16,060 --> 01:34:19,860
Well, fully understood, maybe at the next time we see you, you might have an answer.

1047
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:20,360
Thank you.

1048
01:34:20,440 --> 01:34:21,080
I'm still reading that.

1049
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:27,140
Yeah, because I would say, I would imagine it's, yeah.

1050
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:27,440
Yeah.

1051
01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:29,700
I'm not sure you're planning on collecting from all that.

1052
01:34:30,180 --> 01:34:36,560
And I think, just as you would say, back at an act in math, it would be impossible.

1053
01:34:36,780 --> 01:34:40,580
At the rate that it is currently, would be impossible to get to two and a third or

1054
01:34:40,580 --> 01:34:40,880
thirty-five thousand.

1055
01:34:40,940 --> 01:34:42,740
That's just my quick back to the Act in Math.

1056
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:48,880
Two thousand, three hundred and fifty student athletes would be in that role.

1057
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:55,880
So, Tom, sort of, do we have a quick question here?

1058
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:59,980
It's a lot of the students will go out.

1059
01:35:00,110 --> 01:35:04,050
And earn money to hop, I'll set this, this cost.

1060
01:35:04,550 --> 01:35:13,870
Yeah, I mean, there's been, there are Mr. Sivola, like you heard him speak. I know, oh my gosh,

1061
01:35:15,050 --> 01:35:18,070
Ace Hardware. Oh my gosh, thank you.

1062
01:35:19,230 --> 01:35:25,470
Has, has already, you know, talked about, you know, fundraising to raise funds directly for the sports.

1063
01:35:25,470 --> 01:35:31,550
I do envision that we are going to see some more boosters kind of start up.

1064
01:35:31,630 --> 01:35:35,030
I know we have some phenomenal booster clubs already that are out there.

1065
01:35:35,110 --> 01:35:39,930
I mean the girls volleyball team was out there at Target, doing car washes this past weekend.

1066
01:35:40,650 --> 01:35:44,910
So I do anticipate that we are going to see the fundraising that the kids are involved in.

1067
01:35:45,070 --> 01:35:46,150
Step up a little bit.

1068
01:35:46,450 --> 01:35:50,810
And I do see that we will probably have a little bit more involvement from the middle school

1069
01:35:50,810 --> 01:35:54,190
PTO probably and from booster clubs in the high school as well.

1070
01:35:54,190 --> 01:36:02,210
Okay, and is there any thought about some of the like the rotary club or other terrible clubs and town helping us set some of this?

1071
01:36:02,410 --> 01:36:12,250
Yeah, I mean, I think that's a fantastic, a fantastic thought to reach out to our civic organizations to see if they'd be willing to help support some events.

1072
01:36:13,430 --> 01:36:18,930
So, when you get done, you get money from the students fundraising, you get some maybe

1073
01:36:18,930 --> 01:36:22,870
some charitable clubs, and then the final, the coming back to the town, say this is

1074
01:36:22,870 --> 01:36:23,910
how much part we need.

1075
01:36:24,490 --> 01:36:26,310
That would be the kind of the flow where that would flow.

1076
01:36:26,490 --> 01:36:27,350
We can absolutely do that.

1077
01:36:27,390 --> 01:36:31,110
And we can do it by sport season two, right, and also kind of understand.

1078
01:36:31,210 --> 01:36:34,890
But I mean, I don't think the plan is to come to the town and ask for additional funds.

1079
01:36:37,150 --> 01:36:40,730
It's, it is, we're going to do what we, what we can with what we have.

1080
01:36:40,730 --> 01:36:49,510
Thank you, Secretary Zotter, Councilor Glenn, Secretary Zotter, I know we've talked about this many times about the sport program.

1081
01:36:50,870 --> 01:36:59,150
So one of the things I'll mention is that the absorption was 203,000 for the athletic program, that's what that was the loss.

1082
01:37:00,090 --> 01:37:05,390
So with the pay to play all of the information for the fees was out there, it's on the website for the Board of Education.

1083
01:37:05,390 --> 01:37:06,570
and it's also on the town website.

1084
01:37:06,570 --> 01:37:07,970
It was sent out to every family.

1085
01:37:08,190 --> 01:37:09,670
Somehow another I also got a copy

1086
01:37:09,670 --> 01:37:11,030
because Gracey used police sports,

1087
01:37:11,150 --> 01:37:13,050
I guess they realized she's no longer in the school system.

1088
01:37:14,510 --> 01:37:15,910
But one of the things I wanted to mention

1089
01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:19,030
and I had mentioned to my fellow counselors here,

1090
01:37:20,590 --> 01:37:23,630
the civic groups, Windsor's known for the civic groups.

1091
01:37:24,210 --> 01:37:25,330
And they've always helped,

1092
01:37:25,650 --> 01:37:26,730
and I know they help with little league

1093
01:37:26,730 --> 01:37:28,570
and JC's and other groups.

1094
01:37:28,630 --> 01:37:30,810
So I think that's a great area of the tap.

1095
01:37:31,670 --> 01:37:34,510
As well as all the kids have to meet a requirement

1096
01:37:34,510 --> 01:37:40,510
of community service. Correct? In high school. In high school. So this would be an opportunity

1097
01:37:40,510 --> 01:37:46,630
in the high school to do fundraising as part of their possible community service. And maybe

1098
01:37:46,630 --> 01:37:52,650
that could be implemented for the kids and be helpful. So I'd like to see that happen.

1099
01:37:53,490 --> 01:37:57,310
And then work with the other civic group. So if that could happen I'd be great. But thank you

1100
01:37:57,310 --> 01:38:03,010
for the information I appreciate it. Thank you for your report, Secretary Zatter. The counselors

1101
01:38:03,010 --> 01:38:08,390
have given you much to bring back to your board. And, of course, I'm sure you'll share

1102
01:38:08,390 --> 01:38:12,370
that with Dr. Haiti and you all will make informed decisions and let us know.

1103
01:38:13,130 --> 01:38:14,070
Thank you so much.

1104
01:38:14,430 --> 01:38:14,810
Thank you.

1105
01:38:16,330 --> 01:38:19,190
Next is the public building commission, Rusty Peck.

1106
01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:38,150
You can even imagine there, members of the Council.

1107
01:38:39,630 --> 01:38:44,370
I'm here tonight to report on the public building commission.

1108
01:38:46,050 --> 01:38:49,470
I know it's a, listening to this daunting having been

1109
01:38:49,470 --> 01:38:52,670
President of the Windsor-American Little League for a few years

1110
01:38:52,670 --> 01:38:54,610
and having a response, sir.

1111
01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:56,450
Everyone go with it.

1112
01:38:56,510 --> 01:38:57,130
Yeah, I will.

1113
01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:57,910
I will.

1114
01:38:58,530 --> 01:39:00,050
Okay, I'll stick to it.

1115
01:39:00,050 --> 01:39:02,490
It's all done. Any questions? You have it in front of you?

1116
01:39:04,530 --> 01:39:05,450
What's for dinner?

1117
01:39:09,010 --> 01:39:11,190
Well, it's got it in front of you. Has some questions?

1118
01:39:14,300 --> 01:39:19,920
If I may, Mr. Peck, we're going to be voting on the train station boiler.

1119
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,440
I just received a note from one of our residents

1120
01:39:23,440 --> 01:39:28,880
who was to put it nicely in shock at the price.

1121
01:39:31,340 --> 01:39:37,840
And I know there's a process of getting a lot of bids and all that, but the comment

1122
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:46,740
that was made, this is not a mid-six-figure job, this is a low or high-five-figure job.

1123
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:51,640
And I do appreciate that anything that sounds like it's cost-threat, I'm surprised.

1124
01:39:53,420 --> 01:39:56,700
But it's, it's, we've gone through the process, the answer to Brown.

1125
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,560
I know. That's why I rather have the questions come in as opposed.

1126
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,520
To do that, that's an excellent question. We view the proposals from the various contractors. We select

1127
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:17,620
that NJ Edmonds. And that was the most responsible or the least quality. The lowest qualified

1128
01:40:17,620 --> 01:40:24,740
contractor that we would come up with. But again, we understood that you would all be talking

1129
01:40:24,740 --> 01:40:32,980
about it. And again, we only follow your direction by following the process. So I mean,

1130
01:40:33,700 --> 01:40:40,640
it's, it is what it is. It's not, there is no bells and whistles. I mean, to relate

1131
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:46,820
that to it as we looked at the veterans pool renovations. And you got a chance to look at

1132
01:40:46,820 --> 01:40:51,740
that. And then you were asked, well, can we go to a fourth item here or the like there we

1133
01:40:51,740 --> 01:41:07,180
The information got the lowest qualified bids, but again, you set the tone and we try to keep it as low as possible and feel comfortable with what we have.

1134
01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:09,440
I mean, we've had a good summer.

1135
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:14,120
I mean, as you looked at the LP Wilson projects, 50% done.

1136
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:15,780
Again, we're working on that.

1137
01:41:15,780 --> 01:41:21,160
Sometimes that increases the budget a little bit only because unlike regular contractor projects,

1138
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:25,640
We have to fit them in so it doesn't interfere with the school time there.

1139
01:41:25,860 --> 01:41:31,760
So I mean even when we bid them out and look at them and so that's what happens there.

1140
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:36,380
The projects are the process.

1141
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:41,500
I mean it would be good if you took a look at when it comes there and I can't say it.

1142
01:41:41,500 --> 01:41:49,740
Lenses do their report to us the next meeting and so again we had at the last meeting.

1143
01:41:49,740 --> 01:41:56,560
we got the feedback, now they're working on their final report, and when I say we got one set

1144
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:59,880
of things there, and we said all right, here's what's happening, and they're going to give

1145
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:06,900
us the final report, and then we're immediately going to be sharing it with you. I mean, in terms

1146
01:42:06,900 --> 01:42:14,440
of what you're looking at here. But, you know, everything's coming in that we've presented

1147
01:42:14,440 --> 01:42:25,120
you to date the items there on time and underbudget, which is good in these items.

1148
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,120
We look at town hall, we've got the big stuff done.

1149
01:42:28,220 --> 01:42:34,260
We only have the punch list items such as the doors and that to be finished up boom.

1150
01:42:35,100 --> 01:42:35,840
Looks good.

1151
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:40,860
Last and a long time from one, we did this town hall,

1152
01:42:41,020 --> 01:42:44,740
but then we look at the, by low-peck school,

1153
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:45,820
the main public library.

1154
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,340
So with the length material there,

1155
01:42:48,340 --> 01:42:50,500
and that stuff is, we're trying to get it done

1156
01:42:50,500 --> 01:42:53,800
with an at-time frame and a cost frame,

1157
01:42:54,780 --> 01:42:56,520
they'll be worthy of the town.

1158
01:42:56,700 --> 01:42:58,840
In other words, in terms of doing it,

1159
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:03,120
not shoot it up, that's why you have the commission

1160
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:10,920
And to do that, and we take the feedback from you and again, it's, if you don't understand

1161
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,820
things, that's why they have someone like me that talks too much, you can think come

1162
01:43:14,820 --> 01:43:20,600
up with any answer for you, but the fact that a man or his spent a lot of time on this,

1163
01:43:20,740 --> 01:43:21,000
really.

1164
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:25,900
If I may ask one last question, how many quotes do we get for the trains that were typically

1165
01:43:25,900 --> 01:43:26,920
as three quotes?

1166
01:43:28,340 --> 01:43:31,840
I think that one was four, but it might have been just three.

1167
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:43,850
We've had a number of those that we've been having at different bids and you know what the problem is is some we think we're going to get a lot more than it comes in with one

1168
01:43:44,580 --> 01:43:55,080
For the one and you know again one is not the best way to go if we don't have an idea or where it should be in my estimation

1169
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,120
Thank you sir

1170
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:01,860
Mr. Tom, the manager said, sort of fit.

1171
01:44:01,940 --> 01:44:02,680
Definitely me.

1172
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,860
Mr. Pack, I think you also asked for the transition.

1173
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:10,580
Didn't you ask for a bid on an electrical boiler as well?

1174
01:44:10,700 --> 01:44:10,900
Yes.

1175
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,420
Can you talk a little bit about that in the cost of that if you recall?

1176
01:44:14,580 --> 01:44:17,040
A little bit more than we would have.

1177
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:17,580
Like to see.

1178
01:44:18,300 --> 01:44:18,800
Would have liked.

1179
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,160
We tried all the different avenues every time there.

1180
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,360
Things sound good and we go on to do it and it's like, oh.

1181
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:34,160
Yeah, that's a little bit more, if you remember with my low-peck center, you know, the people from

1182
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:40,760
almost didn't want us to spend that money, so they walked it there, and again, it's what comes

1183
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:50,980
up between gas, oil, electric, and I mean, it's certain times the project comes in and by

1184
01:44:51,620 --> 01:44:59,980
It's good at that particular time, but again, we're trying to do it on a long-term dollar value basis for each of the

1185
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:09,040
Projects, knowing that we'll go somewhat like that. I know that I'm not waving to people, but I mean, that's just the way it happens with that.

1186
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:10,280
I think that's what you're asking.

1187
01:45:10,500 --> 01:45:12,660
Yes, I agree, because it was significantly higher.

1188
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:19,280
Yes, but it didn't fool us. I mean, we sort of wanted there, but we asked them to do it, and they just said,

1189
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:26,200
you realize it might go, you know, so it's, it's independent of that, but it, yes, it was healthy.

1190
01:45:27,660 --> 01:45:28,500
Thank you.

1191
01:45:33,660 --> 01:45:35,420
Thank you so much.

1192
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:36,200
Thank you.

1193
01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:40,380
Next, inland wetlands and water courses commission.

1194
01:45:40,740 --> 01:45:41,240
Steve Frazer.

1195
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:54,180
Good evening.

1196
01:45:55,260 --> 01:46:01,380
I'm going to give an annual report for the inland wetlands and water course commission for the fiscal year 2026.

1197
01:46:01,900 --> 01:46:11,980
During this fiscal year 2026, the inland wetlands and water course commission reviewed 24 applications for activities occurring within regulated wetlands

1198
01:46:11,980 --> 01:46:17,000
water courses or within the 150 foot upland review area.

1199
01:46:17,620 --> 01:46:22,780
Well, ends in water courses play a vital role in protecting water quality,

1200
01:46:23,620 --> 01:46:27,760
reducing flooding, and providing wildlife habitat.

1201
01:46:28,740 --> 01:46:32,240
The Commission reviews activities in and around these sensitive resources

1202
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:38,680
to help ensure that development proceeds in a manner that protects the ecological

1203
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:39,980
functions and values.

1204
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:47,400
The applications we reviewed included 15 commercial industrial approvals and nine residential

1205
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:48,460
approvals.

1206
01:46:49,140 --> 01:46:54,380
Noteworthy projects included the approval of the Millbrook design improvements on Pigeon

1207
01:46:54,380 --> 01:47:00,820
Hill Road and the mixed use residential developments on Griffin Road and at water side crossing.

1208
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:08,160
In addition to processing permit applications, the commission successfully resolved two regulatory

1209
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:15,620
violations through ordered restoration and remedial actions. The Commission hosted 12 meetings,

1210
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:20,460
including one special meeting, all meetings were conducted in a hybrid format,

1211
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:24,520
allowing commissioners,

1212
01:47:24,940 --> 01:47:31,920
applicants and residents to participate either virtually via Zoom or in person. Applications

1213
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:39,520
continued to be processed in a timely manner while receiving thorough technical and regulatory

1214
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:45,300
review. The Inland Wetland and Water Course Commission remains committed to balancing

1215
01:47:45,300 --> 01:47:52,160
responsible development with the protection of Windsor's natural resources by regulating

1216
01:47:52,160 --> 01:48:00,820
activities that may affect water quality, biodiversity, wildlife habitat, erosion control

1217
01:48:00,820 --> 01:48:08,040
and the long-term health of wetlands and water courses. The Commission also continued to

1218
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:13,720
promote the establishment of conservation easements on residential properties to help protect

1219
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:19,160
sensitive resources and reduce the potential for future regulatory violations.

1220
01:48:20,780 --> 01:48:25,320
We have many openings on our commission as well, so if anyone is interested, please

1221
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,280
kind of tag myself for the wetland agent Chloe Thompson.

1222
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:35,740
Thank you so much, Steve, and yes, many opening, so thank you for that.

1223
01:48:36,020 --> 01:48:36,420
All right.

1224
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:38,320
Councillor's questions, comments.

1225
01:48:42,440 --> 01:48:43,500
We'll thank you for the annual report.

1226
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:44,100
Thank you.

1227
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:45,740
Thank you.

1228
01:48:46,180 --> 01:48:47,640
We're on to item number eight.

1229
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:49,380
The town manager's report, Mr. Caesar.

1230
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:51,540
Thank you very much, Madam Mayor.

1231
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,660
I will try to zip through these quickly.

1232
01:48:55,700 --> 01:49:01,120
Just to remind her, the early voting for the Democratic primary elections.

1233
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:02,960
So that started today.

1234
01:49:03,940 --> 01:49:07,880
It runs through August 9th.

1235
01:49:09,810 --> 01:49:13,330
There is extended hours on tomorrow, as well as Thursday,

1236
01:49:13,890 --> 01:49:17,690
from 8 a.m. until 8 p.m.

1237
01:49:17,810 --> 01:49:21,850
And folks can go on to the town's website for information,

1238
01:49:22,550 --> 01:49:26,690
both for early voting, and for absentee ballot process.

1239
01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:31,390
The primary itself is on Tuesday, August 11th,

1240
01:49:31,390 --> 01:49:34,970
and that will have all of our polling places will be open

1241
01:49:34,970 --> 01:49:38,150
for the primary on Tuesday, the 11th,

1242
01:49:38,230 --> 01:49:41,050
normal hour 6am until 8pm.

1243
01:49:41,810 --> 01:49:43,330
Tomorrow night, the police department,

1244
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:45,230
along with a number of community partners,

1245
01:49:45,590 --> 01:49:48,830
will be hosting the annual National Night Up Celebration,

1246
01:49:49,390 --> 01:49:52,470
and that will run from five o'clock until 8 o'clock here

1247
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:53,310
on the town green.

1248
01:49:54,110 --> 01:49:58,350
As you know, there will be also activities for the families,

1249
01:49:58,970 --> 01:49:59,550
there will be music.

1250
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:07,820
Concert as well as games and activities and refreshments. And we encourage folks to bring along a non-perishable

1251
01:50:07,820 --> 01:50:15,360
food item to support the food and fuel bank. Speaking of the food and fuel bank, the Lions Club,

1252
01:50:15,480 --> 01:50:20,580
the Windsor Lions Club, one of our great civic organizations is hosting their seventh annual

1253
01:50:20,580 --> 01:50:27,880
food drive. It's a drive-through food drive, so you can drive right to LP Wilson Community Center.

1254
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:36,660
volunteers will unload your donations and you can be on your way. Again, non-perishable food items

1255
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:44,780
are asked to be brought. Unfortunately, no glass containers, just for no glass containers at the

1256
01:50:44,780 --> 01:50:51,240
food bank. And this, again, the food and fuel bank is a non-profit here in town of Windsor.

1257
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:58,420
We partner with that 501c3 to provide those needed services to our community members.

1258
01:51:00,180 --> 01:51:07,540
On September 11th, we will be commemorating the 25th anniversary that

1259
01:51:10,550 --> 01:51:12,330
tragic day.

1260
01:51:13,410 --> 01:51:16,150
We will have our walk of light.

1261
01:51:16,150 --> 01:51:27,390
Remembrance ceremony here on the town green, it'll start at 6 o'clock and so we have 2,977

1262
01:51:28,530 --> 01:51:33,750
Luminary bags that will be decorated and so we've had great great participation

1263
01:51:34,550 --> 01:51:43,370
from across the community but we still have some more to do and so our public relations team will be on the town green tomorrow evening

1264
01:51:43,370 --> 01:51:50,050
for national night out as well as August 20th at the Thursday night,

1265
01:51:50,210 --> 01:51:55,690
concentrate on the green and so folks can stop by that table and if they care to decorate

1266
01:51:55,690 --> 01:52:03,490
a few bags that would be fantastic. Folks can also contact the need of jubilee here at Town Hall

1267
01:52:03,490 --> 01:52:07,110
if they would like to volunteer in some form or fashion.

1268
01:52:09,330 --> 01:52:12,470
I want to mention a new program that we are

1269
01:52:12,470 --> 01:52:16,390
a new event that's coming up on Thursday the 20th.

1270
01:52:17,110 --> 01:52:24,050
It's going to be a instruction park and it's a back-to-school social for those families that

1271
01:52:24,500 --> 01:52:33,350
are caretakers, grandparents and other caretakers for grandchildren or their nieces and nephews.

1272
01:52:34,190 --> 01:52:39,430
This is a program that we have for a number of years to support those caregivers and this year

1273
01:52:39,430 --> 01:52:46,070
We're going to have a picnic at 4 to 7 on August 28th at Sharshan Park, just a way to be able

1274
01:52:46,070 --> 01:52:47,910
to again bring those groups together.

1275
01:52:48,970 --> 01:52:55,190
Those grandparents that are raising younger grandchildren, you know, it's a tough, tough

1276
01:52:55,190 --> 01:52:55,550
battle.

1277
01:52:56,190 --> 01:52:59,550
And so we try to bring those together to provide support for those caregivers.

1278
01:52:59,970 --> 01:53:03,670
And this is in partnership with the Windsor Public Schools as well.

1279
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:12,120
As the council knows, we send out a calendar or magazine.

1280
01:53:12,260 --> 01:53:15,020
There's a lot to do in Windsor three times a year.

1281
01:53:15,740 --> 01:53:19,000
And so we've got a few curveballs thrown at us this year.

1282
01:53:19,740 --> 01:53:22,860
Those have been traditionally delivered for the last 25 years

1283
01:53:22,860 --> 01:53:25,820
through the Hartford Currents home delivery

1284
01:53:25,820 --> 01:53:29,820
when they delivered their food and flavor publication.

1285
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:33,820
And so unfortunately Hartford Current has decided not to

1286
01:53:33,820 --> 01:53:40,780
have those that home delivery option any longer, and so for this edition that goes out in

1287
01:53:40,780 --> 01:53:47,720
August we will be mailing those through the United States Postal Service. We will be looking

1288
01:53:48,700 --> 01:53:54,540
at other ways of distributing this issue or excuse me future issues, but this particular

1289
01:53:54,540 --> 01:54:00,480
issue we are going to use the Postal Service just because of time to be able to make sure

1290
01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:06,540
that it gets out by the September timeline.

1291
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:12,000
And so, thank you, thank you to our senior public relations staff

1292
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,520
for pulling that off with very short notice.

1293
01:54:15,260 --> 01:54:18,880
And speaking of public relations, I'm happy to say that we

1294
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:23,380
are finalists for two separate national awards

1295
01:54:24,420 --> 01:54:28,100
for our plan of conservation and development communication efforts.

1296
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:35,060
And so these awards are given by the City County Communications and Marketing Association,

1297
01:54:35,420 --> 01:54:40,280
which is a professional organization that serves North America.

1298
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:45,540
And so we've been nominated in two different categories.

1299
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:54,160
And so hopefully we will be a winner in one of those categories.

1300
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:59,800
And those wars will be announced in September, and that we want to give a-

1301
01:55:00,940 --> 01:55:08,720
A big congratulations, and thank you to Anita Jubilee, Andrew Goldberg, and Molly Shannon for their efforts

1302
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:17,120
for not only the POCD communications, but also all of our social media efforts in the past

1303
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:21,920
year as they continue to try to get the word out on all the different good things that are happening

1304
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:26,180
in town. And with that, I can answer any questions that council members have.

1305
01:55:26,180 --> 01:55:32,000
Thank you, Mr. Susa, any congratulations to you and the team on the nominations that's excellent.

1306
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:33,960
Questions, comments, counselors?

1307
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:35,520
I just have a quick question.

1308
01:55:36,900 --> 01:55:38,180
Peter, for the...

1309
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:42,960
The Windsor Food and Field Bank, but the Lions, what was the date of that?

1310
01:55:43,260 --> 01:55:44,360
That is this Saturday.

1311
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:45,360
Does this mention that?

1312
01:55:45,540 --> 01:55:46,320
Is this Saturday?

1313
01:55:47,460 --> 01:55:50,720
And it runs from

1314
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:55,140
certain times to a certain time.

1315
01:55:55,140 --> 01:56:01,540
I can find quite a piece of it from 9 o'clock until 1 o'clock down at L.P. Wilson on the 8th.

1316
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:02,760
Thank you.

1317
01:56:07,220 --> 01:56:11,980
All right. Thank you for the report, Mr. Sussa. Reports are standing committees.

1318
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:16,540
I think the only committee comes with anything for us.

1319
01:56:16,700 --> 01:56:24,040
Yes, we had a great finance committee last week. A couple of different gen items. One of them will be discussing later tonight.

1320
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:34,980
But we are hoping to have a more of a public information session around some of the other items that we're discussed before we bring them to the council for vote.

1321
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:39,560
So stay tuned for that in the next month or so.

1322
01:56:40,140 --> 01:56:41,200
But we've got a busy agenda.

1323
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:46,840
We mapped out to think we discussed about 10 different items between now and then we're here that we're trying to cover.

1324
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:48,960
So come attend.

1325
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:54,960
Finance is fun and it impacts budgets and I know you all love to come talk about that come the springs

1326
01:56:54,960 --> 01:57:02,060
I'd love to hear from you sooner. Please do come attend or finance committee. Thanks. Thank you, thank you

1327
01:57:02,060 --> 01:57:05,140
This evening, there are no ordinances. We do not have any

1328
01:57:05,140 --> 01:57:07,520
Business or we'll move into new business

1329
01:57:08,980 --> 01:57:10,940
All right, I don't know 12 A is there a motion?

1330
01:57:12,580 --> 01:57:17,800
I move to accept the Connecticut Secretary of the State's early voting grant and authorized expenditure

1331
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,260
or authorize the expenditure of grant funds.

1332
01:57:20,500 --> 01:57:24,360
So I think that was kind of so polkaid.

1333
01:57:24,700 --> 01:57:25,920
Thank you, Mr. Caesar.

1334
01:57:26,220 --> 01:57:26,900
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1335
01:57:27,020 --> 01:57:29,060
I'm going to invite up our town clerk, Scott Nolan,

1336
01:57:29,420 --> 01:57:33,280
to provide a brief overview of this grant,

1337
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:39,820
which will help to underwrite state mandate of early voting.

1338
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,360
Good evening, Madam Mayor and members of the town council.

1339
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:48,700
On behalf of the Register of Butter's Office

1340
01:57:48,700 --> 01:57:51,120
and myself, I am here to address you this evening,

1341
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:56,560
regarding grant monies, the town of Windsor is expected to receive for the Democratic primary

1342
01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:01,580
on August 11th, in November, general election on November 3rd, 2026.

1343
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:06,900
As Windsor voters, I get ready to vote and head to the polls for the Democratic primary

1344
01:58:06,900 --> 01:58:11,580
on August 11th, voters may opt to early vote during the seven-day early voting period, which

1345
01:58:11,580 --> 01:58:16,240
began today in Monday, August 3rd, and runs through Sunday, August 9th, 2026.

1346
01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:21,900
For voters wishing to early vote for the November 3rd, 2026 general election, they may do so

1347
01:58:21,900 --> 01:58:26,800
beginning on Monday, October 19th through Sunday, November 1st.

1348
01:58:26,940 --> 01:58:30,240
All early voting will be conducted out of the Ludlow Room here at Town Hall.

1349
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:35,060
In an effort to alleviate some of the financial costs associated with early voting, the Connecticut

1350
01:58:35,060 --> 01:58:39,400
Secretary of State's office has secured grant funding that will be awarded to municipalities

1351
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:40,700
through this early voting grant.

1352
01:58:40,700 --> 01:58:48,460
I'm happy to report that the town of Windsor has been awarded $20,000, $51.24 in grant money

1353
01:58:48,460 --> 01:58:53,880
to support early voting in 2026. Windsor may choose to use these grant funds to offset the

1354
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:58,120
cost associated early voting, which includes the labor, training, ballot order, and polling

1355
01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:02,760
location related expenses. The anticipated cost for early voting for the August Democratic

1356
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:11,680
primary and November 3rd to 2026 general election is approximately $33,75 for the combined 21 days

1357
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:17,480
of early voting. The majority of the additional cost is due to the labor expenses having an

1358
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:22,160
additional moderator, ballot clerk, and tabulator tender available each day of the early voting period.

1359
01:59:22,740 --> 01:59:30,440
All grant funds must be expanded by June 30th, 2027. I will oversee the grant application and the

1360
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:35,620
reporting requirements to do to the state, and with that at this time, if you have any questions,

1361
01:59:35,740 --> 01:59:36,540
I'd be happy to answer them.

1362
01:59:37,460 --> 01:59:38,080
Thank you so much.

1363
01:59:38,380 --> 01:59:39,280
Come to those questions.

1364
01:59:41,830 --> 01:59:42,050
All right.

1365
01:59:42,250 --> 01:59:43,370
So if we're ready for the vote.

1366
01:59:43,970 --> 01:59:44,510
All in favor?

1367
01:59:45,270 --> 01:59:45,370
All right.

1368
01:59:45,790 --> 01:59:46,090
All right.

1369
01:59:48,510 --> 01:59:49,170
I'm so sorry.

1370
01:59:49,370 --> 01:59:51,370
I did not see your hand this time.

1371
01:59:52,250 --> 01:59:54,010
That's, I'm thinking about a mirror.

1372
01:59:54,270 --> 01:59:55,630
I just said one question.

1373
01:59:55,910 --> 01:59:59,250
Is any of those ones allocated towards transportation?

1374
02:00:00,140 --> 02:00:01,640
To the polls?

1375
02:00:02,540 --> 02:00:04,500
No, not that I'm aware of.

1376
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,640
Okay, that was just my question. Thank you madam there.

1377
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:13,320
Thank you. All right, council is at the ready for the vote. All in favour?

1378
02:00:14,140 --> 02:00:14,520
Aye.

1379
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:15,980
All right.

1380
02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:21,300
Seeing you hearing no opposition or abstentions, that passes 8 to 0 to 0.

1381
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:23,320
Thank you. Thank you, counters.

1382
02:00:24,220 --> 02:00:25,560
Right, I have a 12 fee.

1383
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:30,340
I move to approve an appropriation from the general fund, unassigned fund balance in the

1384
02:00:30,340 --> 02:00:35,800
amount of $64,200 and $222 to ECNA life insurance company for a property tax appealed

1385
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:36,600
settlement.

1386
02:00:37,820 --> 02:00:37,880
Second.

1387
02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:42,060
Thank you, Councilor Naim, Mr. Susie.

1388
02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:43,700
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1389
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:49,160
Town Council had discussed this in executive session in July.

1390
02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:54,140
As you know, property evaluation was in October of 2023,

1391
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:59,120
prosecutors both residential and commercial have the ability to appeal

1392
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:05,520
their valuations first to the local Board of Assessment Appeals,

1393
02:01:06,300 --> 02:01:09,520
and then if they choose to, they can appeal it to the Superior Court.

1394
02:01:11,180 --> 02:01:18,160
And this property owner did so in March of 2024 after substantial

1395
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:21,860
substantial research and negotiations.

1396
02:01:23,070 --> 02:01:31,380
We've arrived at a reduced fair market value of 11 million dollars, which is a reduction

1397
02:01:31,380 --> 02:01:33,560
of $1,560,000.

1398
02:01:34,180 --> 02:01:41,900
This reflects a two, this will reflect a two year amount refund amount of $64,222.

1399
02:01:41,900 --> 02:01:53,300
It's recommended that this be paid for from our general fund on a signed fund balance, and with that I can answer any questions that you may have.

1400
02:01:53,620 --> 02:01:54,280
Thank you, Mr. Susie.

1401
02:01:57,320 --> 02:01:59,360
Just a question for the public.

1402
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:06,500
Why a full refund rather than an application or applying a credit to future year?

1403
02:02:06,500 --> 02:02:15,060
So, the Council does have the option of being able to provide a credit for both this and the following item.

1404
02:02:15,380 --> 02:02:26,480
The recommendation from staff was in part because it was preferred by the, in some ways, preferred by the developed by the excuse me, the property owner.

1405
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:38,800
But also the fact that we would use our on hand cash and not impact our forecast revenue for FY27.

1406
02:02:39,180 --> 02:02:42,080
I gotta remember what fiscal year we're in FY27.

1407
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:43,500
I have the same problem.

1408
02:02:45,060 --> 02:02:48,300
We've had the green list another time in fact.

1409
02:02:49,020 --> 02:02:49,180
Thank you.

1410
02:02:49,260 --> 02:02:50,800
I think you're just good to have that information.

1411
02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:51,540
People understand.

1412
02:02:51,900 --> 02:02:52,280
Thank you.

1413
02:02:52,300 --> 02:02:53,540
If we're ready for the vote council.

1414
02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:55,140
All in favor.

1415
02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:03,140
Thank you, Councillor Armstrong, here in opposition of abstention that passes nine, zero, zero.

1416
02:03:04,220 --> 02:03:04,880
Item 12C.

1417
02:03:05,060 --> 02:03:09,540
I move to improve an appropriation from the general fund unassigned fund balance in the amount

1418
02:03:09,540 --> 02:03:16,560
of 174,172 dollars to old Windsor Station LLC for a property tax appeal settlement.

1419
02:03:17,500 --> 02:03:18,840
Thank you, Councillor Eleville.

1420
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:19,600
Mr. Susie.

1421
02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:21,300
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1422
02:03:22,220 --> 02:03:29,440
Similarly, this was the subject of discussion and executive session in July.

1423
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:34,160
This is the Windsor Station apartments on Mechanic Street.

1424
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:42,080
The Fair Market value that the assessor had placed on this property in October 2023 was

1425
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:51,220
just under $31 million. Again, this property owner chose to appeal and this is a little bit

1426
02:03:51,220 --> 02:04:00,000
different than a other residential property in that this is considered a commercial property

1427
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:07,580
and is based upon actual income and expense analysis.

1428
02:04:07,580 --> 02:04:17,220
and so after reviewing this information that was provided by the property, additional information

1429
02:04:17,220 --> 02:04:24,060
provided by the property owner and their professional consultants, there's been agreed upon

1430
02:04:24,060 --> 02:04:35,260
reduction of $5,705,000 in value and again this is going back to October of 2023 valuation.

1431
02:04:35,260 --> 02:04:42,720
So the spans two tax years in in that dollar more of $174,000 and as the motion states

1432
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:46,670
we recommend the general fund on the sign fund balance as the source.

1433
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:49,720
Thank you Mr. Susie.

1434
02:04:49,900 --> 02:04:51,480
Council's questions here.

1435
02:04:52,540 --> 02:04:53,960
All right, people ready for the vote?

1436
02:04:54,380 --> 02:04:54,900
All in favor.

1437
02:04:57,160 --> 02:04:57,820
Thank you, Council.

1438
02:04:57,880 --> 02:04:59,980
I'm strong here in no opposition that passed.

1439
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:08,740
It is 9000. Thank you. Deputy Mayor. I move that the job description for the position of assistant to the

1440
02:05:08,740 --> 02:05:14,320
time manager be approved as presented. Second, thank you, Councilor Nain. Mr. Siser.

1441
02:05:14,820 --> 02:05:19,680
Thank you, Madam Mayor. I'm going to invite up Sophia Castellanos, our human resources manager,

1442
02:05:29,940 --> 02:05:29,940
and

1443
02:05:29,940 --> 02:05:33,560
to describe how we got here and what the primary changes are.

1444
02:05:37,170 --> 02:05:39,930
Okay, well good evening, Madam Mayor and Members of the Council.

1445
02:05:40,670 --> 02:05:44,570
So before you this evening is a request to approve the updated job description for the assistant

1446
02:05:45,090 --> 02:05:46,750
to the town manager position.

1447
02:05:47,350 --> 02:05:51,790
As part of the town standard practice, whenever a position becomes vacant, staff review the

1448
02:05:51,790 --> 02:05:56,450
associated job description to ensure accurately reflects the current responsibilities of the

1449
02:05:56,450 --> 02:05:59,630
role and continues to meet the organization's operational needs.

1450
02:05:59,630 --> 02:06:07,910
With the upcoming retirement of the current assistant to the town manager, this review was completed to determine whether any updates were warranted.

1451
02:06:08,250 --> 02:06:13,490
Following the review, staff identified several revisions that better reflect how the position has evolved over time.

1452
02:06:14,130 --> 02:06:22,850
In particular, the job description has been updated to more accurately capture responsibilities related to public relations, communications and community engagement.

1453
02:06:23,510 --> 02:06:32,530
Additional updates have been made to the general purpose, essential duties, and responsibilities, and minimum qualification sections to ensure they align with the current expectations of the role.

1454
02:06:33,370 --> 02:06:39,070
A competency section has also been added to bring the document into an alignment with the town's current job description format.

1455
02:06:39,770 --> 02:06:46,470
These revisions are administrative and nature and are intended to ensure the job description accurately reflects the work being performed today.

1456
02:06:46,470 --> 02:06:53,890
there is no proposed change to the position's classification or compensation, and I would be happy to answer any question.

1457
02:06:54,070 --> 02:07:02,210
If I could just add to that, you folks maybe not familiar with this job title, this position, the incumbent in this position is a need of jubory,

1458
02:07:02,690 --> 02:07:11,090
and a need of will be retiring early this fall, and so that's just to put that a little bit in context,

1459
02:07:11,090 --> 02:07:25,010
And I think Anita's done almost every job in town and so after 30 a very productive 35 years plus career with us.

1460
02:07:25,050 --> 02:07:34,510
So she started out in recreation and worked at Northwest Park and came over to town manager's office about 25 years ago and we all know she's done with us.

1461
02:07:34,510 --> 02:07:41,470
So, I will note that we did reduce this from requiring a master's degree, so suggest

1462
02:07:41,470 --> 02:07:46,030
not to be a bachelor's degree, and or any other equivalent experience.

1463
02:07:50,830 --> 02:07:53,970
Thank you, Mrs. Suza. Questions, comments, councillors?

1464
02:07:56,430 --> 02:07:57,410
All right, thank you, Mr. Suza.

1465
02:07:57,750 --> 02:07:59,150
Very hard to choose to film.

1466
02:07:59,490 --> 02:08:01,350
All right, so if we're ready for the vote.

1467
02:08:01,750 --> 02:08:02,070
All in favour?

1468
02:08:02,070 --> 02:08:02,970
Oh, Mary has a question.

1469
02:08:03,210 --> 02:08:04,230
Councillor Armstrong, sorry.

1470
02:08:08,810 --> 02:08:18,070
I just had a question, I heard the changes in the job description, but was there any change in the pay grade?

1471
02:08:18,550 --> 02:08:22,930
No, it's still in pay grade eight, so there's no change to that.

1472
02:08:23,630 --> 02:08:24,670
Okay, thank you, Matt.

1473
02:08:25,050 --> 02:08:25,930
Thank you so much.

1474
02:08:26,970 --> 02:08:27,650
Thank you.

1475
02:08:28,090 --> 02:08:29,770
All right, if you're ready for the vote, all in favour?

1476
02:08:30,550 --> 02:08:31,070
Aye.

1477
02:08:31,350 --> 02:08:37,790
Thank you, Ms. Council Armstrong. Here, you know, opposition or extensions that pass is 9000.

1478
02:08:39,490 --> 02:08:45,210
All right, I didn't 12 E. I moved to approve an appropriation of $345,000 from the General Fund

1479
02:08:45,210 --> 02:08:48,970
Unassigned Fund Valence to fund the train station, each faculty placement project.

1480
02:08:49,930 --> 02:08:50,230
Second.

1481
02:08:54,450 --> 02:08:55,490
I'm going to give it to the lady.

1482
02:08:56,230 --> 02:08:56,710
Okay.

1483
02:08:59,910 --> 02:09:01,030
She has been trying all day.

1484
02:09:01,270 --> 02:09:01,490
She has been trying all day.

1485
02:09:01,490 --> 02:09:04,670
All right, thank you, comes on Armstrong.

1486
02:09:05,310 --> 02:09:05,870
Mr. Shiza.

1487
02:09:06,330 --> 02:09:08,150
Thank you very much, Madam Mayor.

1488
02:09:08,530 --> 02:09:12,190
I'm going to ask up our facilities manager, Marco Leglico,

1489
02:09:13,370 --> 02:09:17,430
to provide an overview of this, but while Marco's coming up

1490
02:09:17,430 --> 02:09:21,110
to the microphone, I'll just provide a little bit of history.

1491
02:09:21,710 --> 02:09:26,250
The train station, as you know, is owned by Amtrak.

1492
02:09:26,250 --> 02:09:42,110
We have had a 40-plus year relationship with Amtrak through a lease, and so we lease this building as well as the freight house, which is fronts on the mechanic street.

1493
02:09:42,390 --> 02:09:46,770
We lease this to the nonprofit organization in town, the Windsor Arts Center.

1494
02:09:46,770 --> 02:09:50,250
And Windsor Arts Center pays rent for both buildings.

1495
02:09:50,950 --> 02:09:58,390
They pay rent for the train station in the amount of just under $16,000 a year.

1496
02:09:58,870 --> 02:09:59,990
They also pay...

1497
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:07,100
For utilities, the majority of the utilities in the train station. The town still has a lease with

1498
02:10:07,100 --> 02:10:15,080
Amtrak. We have the ability to extend that lease period for an additional 30 years. We are currently in

1499
02:10:16,420 --> 02:10:25,880
Year 1 of a 10-year lease. So we have a 9-years left plus 30 years worth of potential extensions.

1500
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:41,120
I see no reason for Amtrak not to renew those extensions in the past, and they have no immediate plans or long-term plans for this station in terms of the building itself.

1501
02:10:41,460 --> 02:10:50,860
The platform that you see there that was constructed probably 10 years ago now is actually a DOT facility and not Amtrak.

1502
02:10:50,860 --> 02:11:00,360
So the platform that you see on both sides of Northbound and Southbound, and so with that I will let

1503
02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:05,900
Marco talk about the project scope, and then we can answer questions that you might have.

1504
02:11:06,540 --> 02:11:06,980
Thank you.

1505
02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:07,660
Good evening.

1506
02:11:08,940 --> 02:11:15,620
So at the beginning of this year, we engaged with JP engineering to do an engineering study

1507
02:11:15,620 --> 02:11:19,480
on this project, and we looked at it five different options.

1508
02:11:20,060 --> 02:11:25,620
And one of the tasks that we asked is to look at all possibilities, whether we go with

1509
02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:30,480
all electric gas and give us the best scenario.

1510
02:11:31,540 --> 02:11:37,260
And then in April of 2026, the town council approved an appropriation for the design.

1511
02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:44,600
We contracted with GM2 for the design, and then we went out to bid for construction.

1512
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:52,180
PBC approved, MJMans as best qualified contractor, the lowest cost.

1513
02:11:53,800 --> 02:12:01,060
We looked at trying to get the pricing for the most options of PBC, narrowed it down

1514
02:12:01,060 --> 02:12:09,100
to a all five AC units, including the boiler upgrade, including those as heat pumps and not

1515
02:12:09,100 --> 02:12:10,020
just AC units.

1516
02:12:10,020 --> 02:12:13,480
So, that's the pricing we've gotten.

1517
02:12:16,740 --> 02:12:23,420
What this includes is the pavement removal or the hazardous material of pavement for the

1518
02:12:23,420 --> 02:12:23,780
boiler.

1519
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:27,400
So, the boiler will have to be completely removed and evaded.

1520
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:33,660
We're going to be replacing all five AC units with heat pumps and we're going to be putting

1521
02:12:33,660 --> 02:12:38,200
in a primary secondary loop for the hot water system.

1522
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:46,100
Construction portion of this project is estimated to be about 345,000, including contingency.

1523
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:52,040
The project has higher than what was estimated in the fiscal 26 capital improvements project

1524
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:56,940
and that's because the capital improvement project basically consisted of just replacing that

1525
02:12:56,940 --> 02:12:58,120
boiler with a new boiler.

1526
02:13:02,930 --> 02:13:05,850
Construction expected to be eight to ten weeks.

1527
02:13:07,150 --> 02:13:10,210
And with that, I'll answer any questions you may have.

1528
02:13:10,730 --> 02:13:14,790
If I may, Madam Eric, just to speak to the funding source,

1529
02:13:16,210 --> 02:13:18,850
the unassigned fund balance is the recommended funding source.

1530
02:13:20,730 --> 02:13:24,630
When, as of the end of June 30th on audited,

1531
02:13:24,630 --> 02:13:39,150
We have a fund balance of $44 million, $480,000 when you take into account the opening cash

1532
02:13:39,150 --> 02:13:40,630
at the town council approved.

1533
02:13:41,030 --> 02:13:55,670
As part of the budget, we would have in round numbers $42 million just shy of $42 million, which is 26.8% of the adopted budget.

1534
02:13:55,670 --> 02:13:59,250
There's been some questions about using fund balance.

1535
02:14:01,370 --> 02:14:08,290
We have, this is a project that was actually in the FY26CIP and it was planned to be used

1536
02:14:09,210 --> 02:14:12,510
for the unassigned fund balance at that time as well.

1537
02:14:12,850 --> 02:14:17,810
And so just with extended time to design the project and scope change, we could not get

1538
02:14:18,550 --> 02:14:24,410
this project to the council in time for the FY26CIP, excuse me, fiscal year.

1539
02:14:24,410 --> 02:14:37,110
And so that's why you're seeing it at this point in time, but I want to provide that context of where the overall fun balance is as of the end of July 30th, 2026.

1540
02:14:37,730 --> 02:14:40,450
And thank you, Mr. Caesar for adding that.

1541
02:14:40,550 --> 02:14:41,250
That piece is supported.

1542
02:14:41,650 --> 02:14:42,430
Councillor Neine?

1543
02:14:42,870 --> 02:14:43,550
Thank you so much.

1544
02:14:44,030 --> 02:14:44,430
Just a question.

1545
02:14:44,570 --> 02:14:48,590
What was the cost of the fully electrical option?

1546
02:14:49,150 --> 02:14:53,210
So those were basically just estimates from the study.

1547
02:14:55,090 --> 02:14:58,430
and let me see if I have roughly the cost.

1548
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:59,990
So I try to have that, it's 40%.

1549
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:08,820
The cost is not including controls. More baitment is the construction elements where approximately 40% higher.

1550
02:15:09,700 --> 02:15:12,160
The estimate is 40% higher for the all-electro.

1551
02:15:12,300 --> 02:15:13,520
So about 100,000?

1552
02:15:14,400 --> 02:15:16,320
Those were the estimates.

1553
02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:20,160
These are, I wouldn't want to compare it against the actual bids that we received.

1554
02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:30,600
But what I do recall is when we were reviewing this with the PBC, the return on investment exceeded

1555
02:15:30,600 --> 02:15:31,740
the life of the units.

1556
02:15:32,480 --> 02:15:37,520
So before we recouped our costs by going to the electric, we would have to replace the

1557
02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:38,500
units over again.

1558
02:15:39,020 --> 02:15:43,020
So that's one of the reasons they said that doesn't make any sense at all.

1559
02:15:43,020 --> 02:15:50,520
The other issue with this building is that it's mainly a heat load requirement and less cooling

1560
02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:59,120
and therefore we either have to keep the boiler or oversized the electric units to achieve the heating requirement.

1561
02:16:08,800 --> 02:16:13,200
How many square feet is the, there are two floors in the building correct?

1562
02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:15,520
There's two floors and a basement.

1563
02:16:16,280 --> 02:16:17,620
Okay, is the second floor usable?

1564
02:16:18,780 --> 02:16:19,780
Yes, it is.

1565
02:16:19,880 --> 02:16:20,940
Is it being used?

1566
02:16:21,880 --> 02:16:22,040
Okay.

1567
02:16:22,260 --> 02:16:22,800
All three floors.

1568
02:16:23,480 --> 02:16:26,720
So how many square feet is the first floor?

1569
02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:33,360
The first floor, approximately, I don't have that off the top of my head.

1570
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:35,320
Is it 2, 3, 4?

1571
02:16:36,580 --> 02:16:39,260
You know what, let me see if he has that information in here.

1572
02:16:52,900 --> 02:16:58,200
I don't see that information in here, so I don't have that off the top of my head, I bond up.

1573
02:16:59,100 --> 02:17:02,480
So the heating system is going to go back to use a gas boiler.

1574
02:17:03,680 --> 02:17:05,620
Okay, to keep this space.

1575
02:17:06,620 --> 02:17:12,800
I'm just going to tell you, I've had multiple people who have looked at this and have made the same comment.

1576
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:19,140
350 roughly, $350,000 for this is ridiculous.

1577
02:17:20,220 --> 02:17:25,680
It is a very expensive project for a relatively small building that we don't even know.

1578
02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:29,500
If I may ask, why isn't Amtrak picking up some of this cost?

1579
02:17:29,500 --> 02:17:34,480
because the town of Windsor signed an agreement 40 plus years ago that says that we have

1580
02:17:34,480 --> 02:17:40,400
responsibility for interior and exterior and all the cannibals. In exchange for that the town of

1581
02:17:40,400 --> 02:17:48,720
Windsor received monies through the greater heart for transit district to preserve both of those

1582
02:17:48,720 --> 02:18:00,020
store buildings, which were in complete disrepair, okay, and I got that.

1583
02:18:00,060 --> 02:18:03,520
What do we pay for rent at least, what's at least rate on a dollar?

1584
02:18:04,400 --> 02:18:12,140
So the least rate rate is basically, they take our revenue minus our expenses and if there

1585
02:18:12,140 --> 02:18:19,800
Delta, then we pay that dollar amount, and this past year, it was less than $3,900.

1586
02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:28,760
So we pay them basically, that profit from the building, would the cost of this be included,

1587
02:18:29,100 --> 02:18:36,960
be an adjustment to that net profit? We are working with the infracting for, I don't get this included

1588
02:18:36,960 --> 02:18:43,440
as they depreciated cost over the year, over the coming 12, 15 years.

1589
02:18:44,140 --> 02:18:56,620
So in theory we would be able to recoup some portion of this, I'm sorry, I do, this is a very large number.

1590
02:18:56,920 --> 02:19:06,200
A large number, I just want to include controls, digital controls, it includes $16,000 for

1591
02:19:06,200 --> 02:19:11,140
as this material abatement, and remember the 345, 345,000,

1592
02:19:11,140 --> 02:19:14,440
also includes $45,000 worth of contingency,

1593
02:19:15,080 --> 02:19:16,460
which is a little bit higher than it,

1594
02:19:16,500 --> 02:19:20,800
we normally carry because of the historic nature

1595
02:19:20,800 --> 02:19:22,380
and the way that building is constructed.

1596
02:19:22,940 --> 02:19:25,320
So when you look at construction costs,

1597
02:19:25,620 --> 02:19:28,860
we're at $2.35, and that is for the boiler,

1598
02:19:29,080 --> 02:19:31,340
and then five heat pumps.

1599
02:19:35,220 --> 02:19:41,960
If I may add, this also is a prevailing wage project, which typically doubles the cost,

1600
02:19:43,320 --> 02:19:50,760
the quotes that we received were within $8,000 of each other, so they're relatively close

1601
02:19:50,760 --> 02:19:55,500
regarding the cost of the equipment and the labor.

1602
02:19:57,000 --> 02:19:59,280
It is just it is

1603
02:20:01,840 --> 02:20:08,460
I'm used to seeing big numbers when it comes to the town doing a project, and I get that.

1604
02:20:08,560 --> 02:20:14,480
But I've had, like I said, multiple people sit there and come back to me and make comments like,

1605
02:20:14,500 --> 02:20:22,440
this, this is a $50 or $100,000 project, worst case, how do you come up with $235, and you're not even including the controls?

1606
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:30,300
So, I'm just going to have to say, I'm going to be no on this, if we had an agreement with

1607
02:20:30,300 --> 02:20:35,880
the Amtrak to come back, what covers some of the cost, even if it was not giving

1608
02:20:35,880 --> 02:20:40,660
him any rental income in the future, that would make it a little more palatable, but I've

1609
02:20:40,660 --> 02:20:43,800
had multiple resonances go yikes.

1610
02:20:44,400 --> 02:20:46,580
So, I'm going to have to pass on it.

1611
02:20:46,860 --> 02:20:47,360
Thank you.

1612
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:47,920
Thank you.

1613
02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:48,640
How's it all about?

1614
02:20:48,760 --> 02:20:49,900
Council, I'm strong.

1615
02:20:50,940 --> 02:20:52,380
Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor.

1616
02:20:53,060 --> 02:20:57,740
And as you were talking, have you looked at, or, I'm sure you know, the warranties

1617
02:20:57,740 --> 02:21:01,480
of the lives span of the renovations that is required.

1618
02:21:03,460 --> 02:21:04,420
I'm sorry.

1619
02:21:04,420 --> 02:21:05,480
Do you agree with that again?

1620
02:21:05,680 --> 02:21:05,840
Yeah.

1621
02:21:05,940 --> 02:21:06,420
Life cycle.

1622
02:21:06,440 --> 02:21:06,920
Life cycle.

1623
02:21:06,920 --> 02:21:08,500
The life cycle of the equipment.

1624
02:21:09,220 --> 02:21:12,920
The equipment is somewhere between 20 to 25 years.

1625
02:21:13,940 --> 02:21:14,120
Okay.

1626
02:21:14,120 --> 02:21:22,120
And I know I'm thinking this is in a historical site, so it would be beneficial to restore

1627
02:21:22,740 --> 02:21:24,340
and in good condition.

1628
02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:25,960
So thank you.

1629
02:21:25,960 --> 02:21:26,760
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1630
02:21:26,940 --> 02:21:27,200
Thank you.

1631
02:21:27,860 --> 02:21:28,520
Thank you.

1632
02:21:28,760 --> 02:21:29,500
I have a question.

1633
02:21:30,220 --> 02:21:30,540
Thanks.

1634
02:21:30,540 --> 02:21:32,460
I just want to address some of the concerns.

1635
02:21:33,240 --> 02:21:34,120
I had similar questions.

1636
02:21:34,360 --> 02:21:38,180
Councillor Alvel and I've reached out to Tom Manager to understand our lease agreement.

1637
02:21:38,920 --> 02:21:43,000
And the biggest thing that stands out to me is I understand your concerns are on cost.

1638
02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:47,000
We had similar discussions when we were talking about tennis courts just about six months ago.

1639
02:21:47,160 --> 02:21:47,460
Oh yeah.

1640
02:21:47,720 --> 02:21:53,760
And the reality is is, you know, because of, you have people that know a person, know a guy,

1641
02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:58,640
can understand buildings, have a small business, they get the hookups, they are not.

1642
02:21:58,780 --> 02:22:03,460
Behold it to certain types of laws, restrictions, labor wages.

1643
02:22:03,940 --> 02:22:06,820
And are able to get things done for half the cost.

1644
02:22:07,100 --> 02:22:12,180
They can find ways to cut corners, find ways to do things on a cheap, cheap labor cheap materials.

1645
02:22:12,180 --> 02:22:17,500
materials, you know, that's something that I appreciate a lot coming from the town and coming

1646
02:22:17,500 --> 02:22:20,360
from the BBC that we don't cut corners.

1647
02:22:20,560 --> 02:22:24,840
We try to make things work as well as we can where we kind of, you know, have put out all

1648
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:27,140
the options that we have available to us.

1649
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:31,540
We make hard decisions, I think we've got some kind of decisions coming up as we're talking

1650
02:22:31,540 --> 02:22:35,420
about different phases of the little league fields where we're making decisions based on cost.

1651
02:22:35,420 --> 02:22:39,320
But I don't think that this is a matter of our PBC

1652
02:22:39,320 --> 02:22:42,720
in our town staff just getting high quotes.

1653
02:22:42,820 --> 02:22:44,520
This is what the market looks like right now

1654
02:22:44,520 --> 02:22:47,420
for any municipality to do any kind of work.

1655
02:22:47,560 --> 02:22:48,900
We've seen that with all the other work

1656
02:22:48,900 --> 02:22:51,260
that we've done in our buildings across town.

1657
02:22:52,580 --> 02:22:56,200
So the cost, yes, also made me step back and say,

1658
02:22:56,460 --> 02:22:59,940
hey, what is this really and how big is property, et cetera?

1659
02:23:01,240 --> 02:23:04,120
But understanding the background, it helped explain a lot.

1660
02:23:04,120 --> 02:23:07,500
The other piece of this is, we don't own the property,

1661
02:23:07,840 --> 02:23:10,460
but we've had a long standing relationship there.

1662
02:23:11,060 --> 02:23:12,820
If we choose not to do anything,

1663
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:15,240
and if the building starts to deteriorate,

1664
02:23:16,640 --> 02:23:19,540
I don't have good faith that

1665
02:23:19,540 --> 02:23:22,220
and practice going to come in and take care of it.

1666
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:24,100
And what I don't want now that we have

1667
02:23:24,100 --> 02:23:26,460
a great new train line that's going through,

1668
02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:28,720
we have a train station, we have activity picking up,

1669
02:23:28,800 --> 02:23:30,300
we've got the bird page being activated,

1670
02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:32,280
we have apartments across the street,

1671
02:23:32,280 --> 02:23:40,880
What I would hate to see is one losing a historical building because we can't figure out the maintenance of it and two

1672
02:23:42,660 --> 02:23:46,280
Losing the the vibrancy that's coming in through the heart center. So

1673
02:23:46,880 --> 02:23:49,600
Again, had all the same questions you had I gave

1674
02:23:49,600 --> 02:23:54,660
You know Peter call this morning to kind of understand it better because a lot of this it's been around for 40 years

1675
02:23:54,660 --> 02:23:57,000
So it's been around for longer than I've been alive

1676
02:23:57,540 --> 02:24:02,340
in terms of the agreement for getting the building but you know and it is it is tricky

1677
02:24:02,340 --> 02:24:06,240
because again but in my finding a share I had on I'm looking at every dollar that we're

1678
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:15,180
spending but I do think that we we are at risk of seeing long-term blight and deterioration

1679
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:20,640
in an area that's finally being meeting to pick up energy so for those reasons I will be

1680
02:24:20,640 --> 02:24:21,720
supporting this day.

1681
02:24:27,320 --> 02:24:31,540
I can hear both sides of the argument if you will hear constantly

1682
02:24:31,540 --> 02:24:38,780
I think you're spot on with a lot of things that are going on here, and, you know, we have an

1683
02:24:38,780 --> 02:24:45,180
obligation as the time manager said to do some of these things. So, you know, we're kind

1684
02:24:45,180 --> 02:24:52,620
of on the hook in some way, shape, or form. I also come back and I think about, without knowing

1685
02:24:52,620 --> 02:24:57,120
a guy or anything else, I just literally Google like to put it in a mini split in my own

1686
02:24:57,120 --> 02:24:59,980
I was, if you will, in a way to doubt about going home.

1687
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:29,980
I'm sorry for having the time to say it for the past 9 years. I'm not just somebody who is telling me this is your first start of this. It's a little bit different about it. Do you know, we have a conversation with people that consider social justice. I think it's a little bit different, but it's a very different thing to do. Sometimes we talk a lot about what is proper and what is working. I think we have to deal with the work that we're doing. So I'm just curious. I didn't think about it, but I think I was just going to be doing it. Maybe we're going to be trying to put some things down on that. You know, right now, we're going to have to do one thing. We are going to need to look at this. I could look for a way to get it. And if I could just look at it to do what I'm doing.

1688
02:25:29,980 --> 02:25:32,840
that might be caused more cost efficient.

1689
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:35,620
And I understand your point and I understand

1690
02:25:35,620 --> 02:25:38,020
and I don't think the town's staff did anything bad.

1691
02:25:38,380 --> 02:25:40,960
It just, this price tag just hits it me

1692
02:25:40,960 --> 02:25:43,580
when I look at this and I know that it feels like

1693
02:25:43,580 --> 02:25:45,320
did we think this through?

1694
02:25:46,180 --> 02:25:47,320
Did we go through it?

1695
02:25:47,420 --> 02:25:49,140
And just with what I see in front of me,

1696
02:25:49,260 --> 02:25:50,920
I can't support it as much as I want to do

1697
02:25:50,920 --> 02:25:52,040
and know we have to.

1698
02:25:52,740 --> 02:25:54,580
I kind of want to do it back to the drawing board

1699
02:25:54,580 --> 02:25:56,760
sort of thing and is there something we can do

1700
02:25:56,760 --> 02:25:57,660
to tweak this down?

1701
02:25:57,740 --> 02:25:59,280
That's just where I am on this.

1702
02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:01,740
I don't know if I just would love some clarification.

1703
02:26:02,480 --> 02:26:04,420
You know, talk about other options.

1704
02:26:04,540 --> 02:26:06,000
I know we had five different options that we looked at.

1705
02:26:06,120 --> 02:26:10,080
I'm just curious what other types of options are you thinking about that?

1706
02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:11,860
I'm not the expert on this, but like I said,

1707
02:26:12,060 --> 02:26:14,360
so look, the experts are coming to us.

1708
02:26:14,460 --> 02:26:16,960
I understand that, but I just look at the price tag.

1709
02:26:17,300 --> 02:26:20,880
And I say, no, we've got to do we have to have a C, for example.

1710
02:26:21,960 --> 02:26:25,520
Just what's the, so I'm not saying let's take that.

1711
02:26:25,860 --> 02:26:27,420
I understand that's a fair question.

1712
02:26:27,420 --> 02:26:35,980
I just wasn't sure if you, but I want to be careful of questioning the ability and integrity of the staff and the PBC because they put in a lot of work.

1713
02:26:36,420 --> 02:26:46,700
So I think what they're presenting to us, I, given the history of what we've seen in the past, I believe is what's the best option for what we were looking for, which was, hey, upgrading HVAC.

1714
02:26:47,100 --> 02:26:52,540
But if the other option is not having any AC in that building, that's a very different option.

1715
02:26:52,540 --> 02:26:54,420
I totally understand where you're coming from and that one.

1716
02:26:54,600 --> 02:26:56,180
Like, do we have to have digital goals?

1717
02:26:56,460 --> 02:26:58,260
Can we just have a one-third of that on like,

1718
02:26:58,260 --> 02:27:00,560
I don't know sort of, so, I don't know how to deal with that.

1719
02:27:00,660 --> 02:27:01,320
Deputy Mayor.

1720
02:27:02,320 --> 02:27:05,060
So, I just have a question regarding the process

1721
02:27:05,060 --> 02:27:07,780
because I've sat in a lot of public building commission

1722
02:27:07,780 --> 02:27:10,180
and I've seen how the way the bids are put together.

1723
02:27:10,880 --> 02:27:13,000
And so, maybe you can just ask how you get to a bid

1724
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:14,620
and how the five bids come back

1725
02:27:14,620 --> 02:27:15,920
and a little bit about the process

1726
02:27:16,440 --> 02:27:18,540
because I too understand the price tag,

1727
02:27:18,620 --> 02:27:21,180
but I want to understand a little bit for my,

1728
02:27:21,180 --> 02:27:26,340
Just what I understand why I think I'm going to support this is, how do you get to the bid?

1729
02:27:26,420 --> 02:27:28,740
How is it put together? What does prevailing wage mean?

1730
02:27:29,180 --> 02:27:31,240
What do you have to have digital controls?

1731
02:27:31,580 --> 02:27:34,340
Why does it kind of, how do we get to this cost?

1732
02:27:36,520 --> 02:27:42,620
So when we received the study, we went back and forth to finalized the design.

1733
02:27:43,240 --> 02:27:51,060
It was narrowed down to the heat pumps and the boiler to be the most practical and efficient system.

1734
02:27:51,060 --> 02:27:55,140
and cost effective system to install.

1735
02:27:56,140 --> 02:28:01,040
We then reached out to, in our mechanical firms,

1736
02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:04,120
requesting proposals for this.

1737
02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:07,940
If we're over, if the project's going to be over $125,000,

1738
02:28:08,180 --> 02:28:10,540
it has to be prevailing wage in certified payroll.

1739
02:28:11,860 --> 02:28:18,100
And then we give them a timeline of went to come back with that pricing.

1740
02:28:18,100 --> 02:28:27,260
they come back. We had three firms, M.J. Ammons, AirTemp, and USA Mechanical. Two of the firms,

1741
02:28:27,540 --> 02:28:36,020
we received quotes from, and one of the firms decided not to bid it. And this depends on the size

1742
02:28:36,020 --> 02:28:45,420
of the project, that's something that not a lot of firms would be necessarily interested in. So we did get the pricing.

1743
02:28:45,420 --> 02:28:50,660
they were higher than we expected, so we asked them to break out the pricing for the individual

1744
02:28:50,660 --> 02:28:55,840
units so that we can compare if we have to take some equipment out.

1745
02:28:56,420 --> 02:29:01,940
We presented that to the PVC again, and they said decided to go ahead with all five units.

1746
02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:09,480
There are two units that are not as old, but I think they're eight years old, the newest one,

1747
02:29:09,480 --> 02:29:27,260
But in order to achieve the full functionality that the engineer designed, we would have to change how the hot water coils work so it makes sense to just change all five units as opposed to leaving those two that would then not operate with the with the new system.

1748
02:29:28,540 --> 02:29:35,520
The boilers, as far as the abatement, went back to the Hasment Company and the original

1749
02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:38,140
Quote gave me, did not include prevailing wage.

1750
02:29:38,340 --> 02:29:42,920
I came back and said, I needed to be prevailing wage and that price pretty much doubled.

1751
02:29:44,160 --> 02:29:46,500
And so, and then on the controls, we did the same thing.

1752
02:29:46,980 --> 02:29:49,240
We have automated launch recruits, our controls contractor.

1753
02:29:49,920 --> 02:29:54,540
The reason we're doing controls, one is to try and operate the units as efficient as

1754
02:29:54,540 --> 02:29:59,980
but we also had a leak in the boiler room that pretty much sprayed water.

1755
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:12,340
We're all over the boiler and took the boiler down. We were there at 11 o'clock at night in the middle of the winter. We got the boiler running, but we know now what the condition of the boiler is if it's going to continue to operate.

1756
02:30:13,220 --> 02:30:25,880
So the idea is to have alarms be able to come in and try to prevent that from being a major issue in damaging the equipment more. So that's one of the features that the controls will give us as well as operating in the first one.

1757
02:30:26,480 --> 02:30:28,420
So, I don't know what that answers your question?

1758
02:30:28,980 --> 02:30:34,560
Yeah, I have two more questions that you might, I beg your indulgence, thank you.

1759
02:30:34,740 --> 02:30:39,900
That was a great answer, and I just want to understand, perhaps this is for you, Mr.

1760
02:30:40,020 --> 02:30:40,420
Town Manager.

1761
02:30:40,960 --> 02:30:44,860
I think you said this was on the plan the year before to have these replacements done,

1762
02:30:45,060 --> 02:30:45,500
is that correct?

1763
02:30:45,660 --> 02:30:46,000
Yes.

1764
02:30:46,680 --> 02:30:50,260
So we actually defrayed, we're pushing this forward, so that might have

1765
02:30:50,260 --> 02:30:52,380
caused two because I think things have gotten higher.

1766
02:30:52,920 --> 02:30:53,520
Is that correct?

1767
02:30:53,520 --> 02:30:57,540
It certainly has been delayed a year.

1768
02:30:57,900 --> 02:31:02,520
My original scope of work was just to replace the boiler.

1769
02:31:03,540 --> 02:31:08,500
And then the council had asked us to look at a variety of options, including all electric.

1770
02:31:09,340 --> 02:31:17,000
And so that design process didn't allow us to bring it back earlier in fiscal year 26.

1771
02:31:17,620 --> 02:31:18,080
Thank you.

1772
02:31:18,120 --> 02:31:19,320
And then my last question.

1773
02:31:19,320 --> 02:31:24,720
Maybe you could talk to me a little bit about the make-up of the public building commission,

1774
02:31:25,020 --> 02:31:28,440
how long the commissioners have been there and perhaps some of their background.

1775
02:31:28,860 --> 02:31:32,100
I believe I know some of them have an engineering background and some other things.

1776
02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:34,340
They've been looking at dids for a while.

1777
02:31:34,620 --> 02:31:36,200
I think some of them have been there for it.

1778
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:36,740
Take that.

1779
02:31:37,600 --> 02:31:48,160
So we have a building commission that is well versed in a not only through their own professional disciplines,

1780
02:31:48,160 --> 02:31:55,080
But from being on the public build and commission some of them been on the on the commission for over 25 years and

1781
02:31:56,500 --> 02:32:02,420
They range from a variety of them have a number of them have different different types of engineering

1782
02:32:03,100 --> 02:32:03,700
mechanical

1783
02:32:04,920 --> 02:32:07,740
Others are in the water water treatment

1784
02:32:08,840 --> 02:32:10,740
space and have

1785
02:32:10,740 --> 02:32:12,160
decades of

1786
02:32:12,680 --> 02:32:16,480
Experience working with the with the both private and public sector

1787
02:32:16,480 --> 02:32:22,760
You know, Mr. Peck, who has a accounting and finance background.

1788
02:32:23,860 --> 02:32:29,760
We do have a few newer members who have been on for five to seven years, but again,

1789
02:32:29,820 --> 02:32:39,700
they bring a whole host of expertise from their own experiences, if you will,

1790
02:32:44,660 --> 02:32:45,480
and they've worked

1791
02:32:46,660 --> 02:32:52,340
project all the way up to multimillion dollar projects, including the 32 million dollar project

1792
02:32:52,340 --> 02:32:56,460
for the health and safety from the public safety complex project that was successfully

1793
02:32:56,460 --> 02:33:01,460
done and brought in under budget, probably like six or seven years ago.

1794
02:33:01,860 --> 02:33:04,460
Thank you. That's the only question. Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1795
02:33:04,660 --> 02:33:06,520
Thank you, consider it.

1796
02:33:10,680 --> 02:33:14,820
I've got a couple of questions. I have the same issues with the price tag.

1797
02:33:14,820 --> 02:33:17,660
as a rest of my colleagues here.

1798
02:33:19,860 --> 02:33:21,960
You know, I look at these five new heat pumps.

1799
02:33:22,700 --> 02:33:26,760
What's the existing useful life of a,

1800
02:33:26,760 --> 02:33:29,740
on the new existing heat pumps we have?

1801
02:33:29,880 --> 02:33:31,100
You say you have eight new ones?

1802
02:33:32,540 --> 02:33:34,720
There's two that are eight years old.

1803
02:33:34,720 --> 02:33:35,020
Yes.

1804
02:33:36,280 --> 02:33:40,720
The remaining, like 36 years old, 38 years old,

1805
02:33:41,060 --> 02:33:42,100
32 years old.

1806
02:33:42,100 --> 02:33:47,360
the boiler itself is 43 years old, you know, they're well beyond their useful order.

1807
02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:50,040
So what would happen if you split the project into two?

1808
02:33:50,240 --> 02:33:52,180
It would be three place to AC or do place to boiler.

1809
02:33:52,340 --> 02:33:54,320
Actually it sounds like you need to replace the boiler first.

1810
02:33:55,140 --> 02:33:59,180
So if you choose not to do the AC and you just replace the boiler,

1811
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:04,480
then you'll have to replace the boiler with a like system that it has,

1812
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:10,440
which will not get you the efficiencies that the engineer is going to design into the project.

1813
02:34:10,440 --> 02:34:20,420
And then I'm not sure down the road if you change the AC units that you get, you already now have the boiler that's going to be operating in a less efficient manner.

1814
02:34:21,200 --> 02:34:27,220
They were basically, it's a primary or secondary heating system is what's being designed right now.

1815
02:34:28,580 --> 02:34:34,260
So that may not be feasible by doing this, splitting it up.

1816
02:34:34,260 --> 02:34:41,600
But in the past, the ACU should put in where it put in with the existing boiler at that time, right?

1817
02:34:41,700 --> 02:34:41,840
Correct.

1818
02:34:42,680 --> 02:34:42,920
Okay.

1819
02:34:43,600 --> 02:34:46,920
So you just did one part of the project then.

1820
02:34:47,860 --> 02:34:49,780
You didn't update the boiler, did you?

1821
02:34:50,120 --> 02:34:50,280
Correct.

1822
02:34:50,280 --> 02:34:50,760
But it's not.

1823
02:34:50,940 --> 02:34:51,500
It's not.

1824
02:34:51,740 --> 02:34:56,320
That was a 80% efficient gas boiler at the time.

1825
02:34:56,940 --> 02:34:59,980
This is going to be a 95 or 98% efficient.

1826
02:35:00,430 --> 02:35:04,690
Condensing boiler, so it will be a different design with today's technology.

1827
02:35:05,750 --> 02:35:09,990
So, can I just change that one? Now, would that, just from efficiency of any of the cost?

1828
02:35:10,750 --> 02:35:11,310
Of this?

1829
02:35:12,690 --> 02:35:22,710
Yes, it will. The operating cost, obviously, from an 80% to a 98% efficiency on the boiler alone.

1830
02:35:22,710 --> 02:35:27,830
And then AC units will be a more efficient AC, or actually it would be a heat pump.

1831
02:35:28,230 --> 02:35:34,370
So with the heat pump, the AC units will be the primary heat, and the boiler will be the secondary heat.

1832
02:35:35,470 --> 02:35:40,430
So on the shoulder monster, heat pumps will basically do the heating, and that will be more efficient.

1833
02:35:40,810 --> 02:35:46,810
And then in the winter when the heaviest load comes about, the boiler will be taken up, the additional load.

1834
02:35:47,830 --> 02:35:54,650
There's also, there's also, with this system, there's incentives from the utilities that will be offered.

1835
02:35:55,350 --> 02:35:56,910
Okay, I think it will do the efficiency.

1836
02:35:57,250 --> 02:35:59,410
Is any of that information available to us?

1837
02:36:01,570 --> 02:36:09,930
We do have the initial study that was completed in January of this year.

1838
02:36:09,930 --> 02:36:14,630
that was done prior to asking the town council for the full design.

1839
02:36:15,190 --> 02:36:17,730
We do have the option.

1840
02:36:18,070 --> 02:36:22,170
If I'll say the evaluation in which I'll line the five different options.

1841
02:36:23,690 --> 02:36:25,290
Okay, and what's the time?

1842
02:36:29,010 --> 02:36:30,350
What's the rush on this?

1843
02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:32,170
Is there something that you get right away?

1844
02:36:32,370 --> 02:36:33,390
Or is there something that you can be put on?

1845
02:36:34,070 --> 02:36:39,350
So the reason a boiler was in the CIP is because it was 43 years old,

1846
02:36:39,350 --> 02:36:44,010
over 43 years old, and it was honest last leg.

1847
02:36:44,990 --> 02:36:49,030
And since then, we've had that water leak that caused it even more damage.

1848
02:36:50,310 --> 02:36:52,730
So, we're on Pearl Time with that boy.

1849
02:36:53,250 --> 02:36:55,210
And that's what kind of started this whole project.

1850
02:36:55,790 --> 02:36:57,830
We were ready to start it, and then we said, hey,

1851
02:36:57,850 --> 02:37:01,530
let's do a study and let's evaluate what the best option is,

1852
02:37:01,530 --> 02:37:03,750
as opposed to just change in the boy that we're alone.

1853
02:37:03,930 --> 02:37:06,170
And that's kind of where God is to this point.

1854
02:37:08,970 --> 02:37:21,830
Thank you so from hearing the conversation because just for the viewing audience, this is a conversation that didn't just start when the agenda got sent out last Thursday.

1855
02:37:22,270 --> 02:37:33,290
As a council we've been having the conversation going back to January, it's been in the time improvements booklet and I'm saying that because I just want people to know that

1856
02:37:33,290 --> 02:37:36,290
not just popping up, but this has been a conversation.

1857
02:37:37,130 --> 02:37:39,090
And talking about the price tag told me

1858
02:37:39,090 --> 02:37:40,730
to understand Council L.V. LDS.

1859
02:37:41,290 --> 02:37:44,270
I'm so envious on this side, we think about the dollars too.

1860
02:37:44,770 --> 02:37:47,670
And so we reached out to Peter ahead of schedule,

1861
02:37:48,210 --> 02:37:49,370
asking those same questions,

1862
02:37:49,910 --> 02:37:51,650
but thinking about the project overall.

1863
02:37:52,630 --> 02:37:54,110
This is not a residential property.

1864
02:37:54,770 --> 02:37:55,710
It's a commercial property.

1865
02:37:56,490 --> 02:37:57,930
The boiler is on its last leg.

1866
02:37:58,650 --> 02:38:01,190
So if we kind of kick it down the road again,

1867
02:38:01,190 --> 02:38:06,510
I would be more concerned about what that price tag is going to look like when it comes back around.

1868
02:38:07,250 --> 02:38:21,610
So, that is my rationale for voting yes, I trust the work of our PBC, they do a great job making sure that it's not something that's exorbitant, you know, because everyone here wants to be fiscally sound.

1869
02:38:21,890 --> 02:38:27,650
So, I'm going to support this because it's been a conversation that's ongoing, it's been in our town improvements document.

1870
02:38:27,650 --> 02:38:31,030
that if you may or if I may ask, this was discussed at your last meeting.

1871
02:38:31,250 --> 02:38:35,450
Yes, let's, okay, with the counselors that make up that, okay.

1872
02:38:36,250 --> 02:38:42,890
So I'm going to support this because we need to move on that before we end up in a situation

1873
02:38:42,890 --> 02:38:46,550
like another building that we are all aware of in town, okay?

1874
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:51,590
So that's my, my four cents because all of you brought in different pieces.

1875
02:38:52,370 --> 02:38:56,830
But if we are ready for the vote, counselors, all right?

1876
02:38:56,830 --> 02:39:07,350
Do you need to be state WBIR? I don't think you do. No, it was to approve appropriation for $345,000 from the general and a sound fund balance to fund the train station aid check. Project.

1877
02:39:08,270 --> 02:39:08,550
All right.

1878
02:39:09,650 --> 02:39:10,470
So all in favor.

1879
02:39:13,030 --> 02:39:13,430
Thank you.

1880
02:39:13,710 --> 02:39:15,870
Sir, Armstrong, all opposed?

1881
02:39:16,270 --> 02:39:16,750
No.

1882
02:39:17,850 --> 02:39:18,690
Any abstentions?

1883
02:39:20,830 --> 02:39:21,130
All right.

1884
02:39:21,350 --> 02:39:25,150
So that motion passes five, four, zero.

1885
02:39:26,690 --> 02:39:27,630
Thank you, Thomas Lewis.

1886
02:39:27,630 --> 02:39:28,090
And I would like to welcome you.

1887
02:39:28,330 --> 02:39:29,250
I am 12.

1888
02:39:31,390 --> 02:39:32,350
Thank you.

1889
02:39:32,390 --> 02:39:33,570
I move to approve and approve.

1890
02:39:33,710 --> 02:39:34,050
Thank you, Mark.

1891
02:39:34,230 --> 02:39:34,710
Thank you.

1892
02:39:35,030 --> 02:39:35,530
Thank you.

1893
02:39:35,570 --> 02:39:41,210
I move to approve an preparation of $375,000 from the General Fund unassun, fund balance to fund the

1894
02:39:41,210 --> 02:39:43,450
Welch Park Little League Facility Project.

1895
02:39:45,070 --> 02:39:46,470
Thank you, Councilor Naim.

1896
02:39:47,570 --> 02:39:48,270
Mr. Cazer.

1897
02:39:48,610 --> 02:39:49,290
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1898
02:39:49,310 --> 02:39:53,950
I'm going to invite up Paul Norse, our Director of Recreation and Leaders Services.

1899
02:39:53,950 --> 02:39:59,970
I'm Paul's been one of the, the point person on this and I will.

1900
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:07,940
We'll review this item. We'll be able to answer questions afterwards. Again, this is funding source. This is the

1901
02:40:07,940 --> 02:40:11,740
agenda fund on a signed fund balance that I mentioned earlier.

1902
02:40:13,360 --> 02:40:14,540
Good evening, Mayor.

1903
02:40:14,800 --> 02:40:16,020
Good evening. I have a question.

1904
02:40:16,020 --> 02:40:16,180
I have a question.

1905
02:40:16,480 --> 02:40:17,320
I have a question.

1906
02:40:19,320 --> 02:40:25,960
It's been a long time. Tonight, I'm here requesting your approval to fund facilitating

1907
02:40:25,960 --> 02:40:31,880
improvements at the Wells Part Little League complex. These improvements go back to a

1908
02:40:31,880 --> 02:40:39,520
townwide athletic field, mass the plan that was done back in 2013, which laid out a long-term

1909
02:40:39,520 --> 02:40:47,600
strategy for investing, I know, athletic fields. Wells Park is amongst the last of the recommendations

1910
02:40:47,600 --> 02:40:55,480
for the talented tackle. The project is identified in the fiscal year 2027 Capital Improvement

1911
02:40:55,480 --> 02:41:02,620
Program. Wells Park is a five-field complex that serves youth baseball and softball programs.

1912
02:41:03,500 --> 02:41:10,140
Field 5 especially holds a special place as that is home to our adaptive baseball program

1913
02:41:10,140 --> 02:41:13,720
and gives players of all abilities a place to play.

1914
02:41:14,980 --> 02:41:21,520
The town owns and maintains the property and our little legal organization supports us with

1915
02:41:22,160 --> 02:41:29,620
a gigantic amount of hours from volunteers in managing the program handling day-to-day

1916
02:41:29,620 --> 02:41:33,560
field prep and some repairs around the facility.

1917
02:41:33,560 --> 02:41:39,340
Over time, much of the facility is one old and thus to look tired.

1918
02:41:40,060 --> 02:41:46,540
The fence in backstop dug out irrigation and support buildings of all age to the point

1919
02:41:46,540 --> 02:41:55,100
where they need repair or to be replaced to ensure safe and usable facilities for

1920
02:41:55,100 --> 02:42:02,160
plays and family alike. The scope of the project includes new irrigation on fields 1 and 2,

1921
02:42:02,780 --> 02:42:12,000
new fencing on field 1 and 2. Fence repair will be completed on fields 3 through 5 as well as

1922
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:20,060
there will be repair work to backstops as needed throughout the facility. The dugouts on fields 3 and 4

1923
02:42:20,060 --> 02:42:26,680
will receive necessary repairs, however the dugouts on fill 5 will be new.

1924
02:42:27,900 --> 02:42:33,120
The last step in this phase involves repairing and upgrading of support buildings which we

1925
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:36,260
consider storage garages and press boxes.

1926
02:42:37,400 --> 02:42:45,220
The total cost for the project is $375,000, which includes a $35,000 contingency.

1927
02:42:45,220 --> 02:42:51,760
If approved, the funding as the town manager said will come from the general fund, unassigned

1928
02:42:51,760 --> 02:42:57,340
fund balance and work is expected to begin as early as mid-Satember.

1929
02:42:58,400 --> 02:43:04,120
Looking ahead, we're also planning a phase two to this project that will come to you

1930
02:43:04,120 --> 02:43:11,420
hopefully in fiscal year 2028, and that will address the dugout on the two main fields

1931
02:43:11,420 --> 02:43:17,260
feel one and feel two. Staff is currently working through the details on that, which

1932
02:43:17,260 --> 02:43:23,960
surveying, design work, permitting, and cost estimates. As you know, the Town Improvement

1933
02:43:23,960 --> 02:43:30,940
Committee did review this project back on this June 29th meeting. With that said, I'm here

1934
02:43:30,940 --> 02:43:36,660
to respectfully request Council approve the appropriate funding to move forward with this project.

1935
02:43:36,660 --> 02:43:39,100
Thank you so much.

1936
02:43:41,860 --> 02:43:42,540
Councilor.

1937
02:43:42,580 --> 02:43:48,820
When were these fields facilities at this sort of level of scale lasted dressed?

1938
02:43:48,880 --> 02:43:51,620
Do you have any idea when that was it?

1939
02:43:52,280 --> 02:43:54,380
Fifty years ago was it?

1940
02:43:54,380 --> 02:43:55,280
Let's go with that.

1941
02:43:55,540 --> 02:44:03,820
No, but the little league folks have done a good job working in patching,

1942
02:44:03,820 --> 02:44:09,800
in the town did a small fan's job, maybe about 10 years ago,

1943
02:44:10,000 --> 02:44:13,180
and some of the fields, the little league folks in the town

1944
02:44:13,180 --> 02:44:16,460
did collaborate and work on a concession building,

1945
02:44:16,800 --> 02:44:18,220
so it's been quite a while.

1946
02:44:19,600 --> 02:44:21,540
OK, so perhaps longer than I've been around.

1947
02:44:22,060 --> 02:44:24,440
Well, I did speak to a contractor today

1948
02:44:24,440 --> 02:44:28,960
who said that he worked on the original fence in 45 years ago.

1949
02:44:30,360 --> 02:44:32,940
OK, so that's over there.

1950
02:44:32,940 --> 02:44:35,620
Okay, can I do it? Are we ready for the vote?

1951
02:44:38,580 --> 02:44:45,340
I just have a question about field five in the dugout because I know that's the field where they have.

1952
02:44:46,120 --> 02:44:52,100
So is that dugout that may larger than the other dugouts or all the dugouts going to be accessible and large?

1953
02:44:52,860 --> 02:44:58,020
So the dugouts specifically on five are not wide enough?

1954
02:44:58,040 --> 02:44:59,520
Right, sorry, we need that one.

1955
02:44:59,520 --> 02:44:59,900
Right.

1956
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:05,920
So the entrance will be wider to deal with various types of adaptability.

1957
02:45:06,760 --> 02:45:08,440
Thank you.

1958
02:45:08,440 --> 02:45:09,840
And really excited about the irrigation.

1959
02:45:10,460 --> 02:45:16,880
I mean, if you visit Welsh through the years, yeah, it will definitely help.

1960
02:45:17,680 --> 02:45:18,700
Councillor Armstrong?

1961
02:45:19,680 --> 02:45:22,360
Yes, thank you Madam Mayor. Just a question.

1962
02:45:22,580 --> 02:45:26,260
Is this field used for any other activities other than for the little league?

1963
02:45:26,260 --> 02:45:37,620
No, it is not. The wealth feels a strictly used for little league. Maybe as a table all the way up to major little league.

1964
02:45:37,840 --> 02:45:49,340
If I could add to that their season starts as soon as the winter breaks, which can often be early March and sometimes be a little bit later in March.

1965
02:45:49,340 --> 02:45:56,620
But they go all the way through the better part of the summer as you heard earlier, and then they start up again in

1966
02:45:56,620 --> 02:46:00,360
The fall and have a somewhat of a smaller season in the fall

1967
02:46:00,360 --> 02:46:05,800
But they do use it in the fall as well. So it's it's being used the better part of

1968
02:46:06,420 --> 02:46:11,380
You know seven or eight months and not only that the age group that their

1969
02:46:12,060 --> 02:46:16,180
Participants are as young as four up to 14 and about

1970
02:46:16,180 --> 02:46:43,340
340 kids per season hmm thank you for that it's good to know thank you

1971
02:46:43,340 --> 02:46:47,000
ready for the vote council. All right. All in favor?

1972
02:46:47,260 --> 02:46:53,360
Hi. Here are going to opposition or abstentions that passes nine zero zero.

1973
02:46:53,960 --> 02:46:55,740
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1974
02:46:56,040 --> 02:46:56,520
Thank you.

1975
02:46:57,360 --> 02:47:00,480
All right. Item 12G.

1976
02:47:01,040 --> 02:47:06,920
Resolved that the attached priority redevelopment properties listed as amended to add the

1977
02:47:06,920 --> 02:47:13,100
Windsor Federal Bank Properties 4507 Windsor Avenue and Wilson Townline Garage be adopted as

1978
02:47:14,300 --> 02:47:14,940
Second.

1979
02:47:16,380 --> 02:47:17,240
Thank you, Hanson.

1980
02:47:19,130 --> 02:47:20,370
Mr. Susanne.

1981
02:47:20,590 --> 02:47:21,310
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1982
02:47:21,470 --> 02:47:23,190
I'm going to provide a Patrick McMahon.

1983
02:47:23,830 --> 02:47:32,130
Our economic development director to provide this requested amendment to add these properties.

1984
02:47:32,850 --> 02:47:39,070
And the economic development commission as Patrick will note had reviewed these and endorsed this recommendation.

1985
02:47:40,690 --> 02:48:07,510
Good evening, honorable mayor. Members of the town council. In December of 2002, the town council adopted a tax increment financing policy as one tool to encourage the redevelopment of key vacant or underutilized properties. As part of the policy, the council approved a priority redevelopment properties list to provide specific guidance regarding which sites would be eligible for tax increment financing.

1986
02:48:07,510 --> 02:48:16,170
In recommending the initial list, the Economic Development Commission included a statement of its purpose and procedures and criteria for updating properties.

1987
02:48:17,310 --> 02:48:26,290
The Commission is to review the list at least annually and report its recommendations for additions or deletions to the town council.

1988
02:48:26,890 --> 02:48:32,330
The Economic Development Commission reviewed the priority redevelopment property list during its July meeting.

1989
02:48:32,990 --> 02:48:36,470
The Commission voted to recommend the addition of the following properties.

1990
02:48:36,470 --> 02:48:43,190
The Windsor Federal Bank Properties at 250 and 260 Broad Street and 21 Maple Avenue.

1991
02:48:44,070 --> 02:48:49,630
You know that that would be the gray brick bank building built in 1956.

1992
02:48:50,370 --> 02:48:55,950
It is available for redevelopment as Windsor Federal recently did an extensive renovation

1993
02:48:56,650 --> 02:49:02,370
to the historic red brick structure located at 270 Broad Street and they have corporate

1994
02:49:02,370 --> 02:49:09,210
offices now on Day Hill Road so that's excess property for Windsor Federal and there has

1995
02:49:09,210 --> 02:49:12,850
been some interest in redevelopment of the site.

1996
02:49:13,950 --> 02:49:17,070
The second location is 457 Windsor Avenue.

1997
02:49:17,810 --> 02:49:23,950
This is an existing two-story commercial building which is on the market, it's a house

1998
02:49:25,010 --> 02:49:33,470
FB and W. Carpet is adjacent or kitty corner to the new Wilson Park.

1999
02:49:34,350 --> 02:49:41,870
Inclusion on the list is for the possible assemblage with a two acre parcel at 259

2000
02:49:41,870 --> 02:49:46,110
broad street about a half acre parcel at 465, Windsor Avenue.

2001
02:49:46,150 --> 02:49:49,090
Both of those are already on the list.

2002
02:49:49,090 --> 02:49:53,910
the concept will be potential assemblage into a larger development.

2003
02:49:54,570 --> 02:49:59,990
And then the third site being recommended by the Economic Development Commission is the Wilson Townwide.

2004
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:14,880
Sign garage, a Windsor Avenue. It's essentially right next to the Greater St. Paul Church of the deliverance. It's a very visible vacant property at the Gateway to Windsor on Route 159.

2005
02:50:15,320 --> 02:50:26,500
It's a brick service station that was built in 1955. The property does have the potential for adaptive reuse or redevelopment.

2006
02:50:26,500 --> 02:50:31,860
It's important to note that being included on this list, just states that the community

2007
02:50:31,860 --> 02:50:37,800
feels that these are important properties for reuse or redevelopment.

2008
02:50:37,800 --> 02:50:45,840
It does not automatically accrue any specific financial benefit to the properties.

2009
02:50:46,600 --> 02:50:54,240
They would have to pursue other programs that we have on the books like Tax Increment

2010
02:50:54,240 --> 02:51:00,880
financing, we could assist them on the zoning aspects of these properties, but it's one

2011
02:51:00,880 --> 02:51:06,240
be clear that this is just an indicator that these are very important properties, and could

2012
02:51:06,240 --> 02:51:12,180
potentially open the properties up for incentives or other assistance.

2013
02:51:13,380 --> 02:51:14,520
With that, I'll take any questions.

2014
02:51:15,240 --> 02:51:16,240
Thank you so much, Patrick.

2015
02:51:16,800 --> 02:51:17,800
Come to those questions.

2016
02:51:21,490 --> 02:51:24,070
Hearing none, it looks like we're ready for the vote.

2017
02:51:27,190 --> 02:51:28,730
Yes, Madam Mayor.

2018
02:51:29,290 --> 02:51:30,590
Thank you.

2019
02:51:30,590 --> 02:51:31,350
I have a quick question.

2020
02:51:32,290 --> 02:51:35,690
Patrick, you said there was a possible interest

2021
02:51:35,690 --> 02:51:37,810
or interest on the redevelopment of the Windsor Fellow.

2022
02:51:38,030 --> 02:51:40,810
You have someone that's possibly interested in that space.

2023
02:51:41,310 --> 02:51:42,710
We're going to misunderstand you.

2024
02:51:43,230 --> 02:51:49,030
So Windsor Federal has been approached by different folks about the potential

2025
02:51:49,030 --> 02:51:50,770
acquisition of that property.

2026
02:51:50,770 --> 02:51:55,470
There's been no applications, no site plans, nothing presented to the town.

2027
02:51:55,610 --> 02:51:58,210
We just know that there is some interest in the property.

2028
02:51:58,630 --> 02:52:00,830
And you're vetting these, of course, just for the public.

2029
02:52:01,090 --> 02:52:02,550
You vet them. You talk to them, you.

2030
02:52:03,250 --> 02:52:09,090
Absolutely. When the prospect is ready to go, we would be certainly vetting them.

2031
02:52:09,270 --> 02:52:15,750
We have our development team process that goes through all the aspects of any kind of redevelopment.

2032
02:52:16,050 --> 02:52:16,970
Thank you.

2033
02:52:18,150 --> 02:52:19,190
Thank you.

2034
02:52:19,190 --> 02:52:21,310
So, for ready for the vote, all in favour?

2035
02:52:22,050 --> 02:52:22,230
Aye.

2036
02:52:22,330 --> 02:52:22,570
All.

2037
02:52:23,170 --> 02:52:25,350
Thank you here in no opposition or abstentions.

2038
02:52:25,550 --> 02:52:27,530
That pass is 9000.

2039
02:52:28,470 --> 02:52:29,790
Thank you so much, Patrick.

2040
02:52:30,910 --> 02:52:31,090
All right.

2041
02:52:31,230 --> 02:52:32,030
Item 12-H.

2042
02:52:32,330 --> 02:52:38,270
I move to approve the storefront activation program guidelines as presented and the program to be funded utilizing

2043
02:52:38,270 --> 02:52:42,630
Fiscal Year 2027 Town Center Tax Incomment Funds.

2044
02:52:42,630 --> 02:52:42,810
Second.

2045
02:52:43,610 --> 02:52:44,450
Thank you, Counselor.

2046
02:52:44,450 --> 02:52:54,030
Thank you, Madam Mayor. As the council will recall, Town Council set out as, actually over

2047
02:52:54,030 --> 02:53:04,370
the last couple of years, a priority to look at how the town can facilitate the occupancy

2048
02:53:04,370 --> 02:53:11,390
of first floor commercial space here in Town Center. Council had made that a goal for my

2049
02:53:12,830 --> 02:53:21,610
performance this past year, and so town staff, particularly led by Patrick, have been looking

2050
02:53:21,610 --> 02:53:27,550
at a number of ways in evaluating a number of ways to achieve that goal.

2051
02:53:28,450 --> 02:53:36,990
So Patrick, if you could walk through the proposed policy for the SOFORN activation program,

2052
02:53:36,990 --> 02:53:45,230
Again, this has been prepared with input and reviewed by the Economic Development Commission.

2053
02:53:46,410 --> 02:53:47,290
Thank you, Peter.

2054
02:53:49,010 --> 02:53:57,070
The program that we are proposing this evening is intended to address a key barrier identified by property owners and prospective tenants.

2055
02:53:57,070 --> 02:54:04,190
It's the upfront cost of tenant improvements, particularly for restaurant retail and experiential

2056
02:54:04,190 --> 02:54:08,150
uses that are critical to downtown vitality.

2057
02:54:08,830 --> 02:54:15,290
The program is structured as a reimbursement based incentive, providing up to 50% of eligible

2058
02:54:15,290 --> 02:54:16,430
project costs.

2059
02:54:16,890 --> 02:54:25,710
With maximum awards of $50,000 for standard storefront fitouts, and $75,000 for projects requiring enhanced

2060
02:54:25,710 --> 02:54:33,230
infrastructure, code, readiness, improvements. Those are maximums. So, an application could be for less than that,

2061
02:54:33,370 --> 02:54:41,870
but the incentive would be only for 50% of the project costs. Funding for the program would be source from the Windsor Center,

2062
02:54:42,210 --> 02:54:52,070
tax increment financing district, which was specifically established to reinvest tax growth, generated within the district back into the district.

2063
02:54:53,670 --> 02:54:59,790
Building improvements such as this work contemplated in the town center district master plan.

2064
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:10,420
When the tiff district was created. What's being proposed is an allocation of 389,600 dollars, which would include

2065
02:55:10,420 --> 02:55:17,340
both a reinvestment in the commercial facade program as well as this new storefront activation program.

2066
02:55:18,560 --> 02:55:25,240
We are able to propose this program at this particular time because of recent tax assessed value

2067
02:55:25,240 --> 02:55:32,600
increases, generating tip revenue from both field greens, founder square, the renovation of the

2068
02:55:32,600 --> 02:55:41,100
historic red brick, Windsor Federal Bank Building at 270, Broad Street, as well as to renovations

2069
02:55:41,100 --> 02:55:47,880
to 2016 Broad Street that houses tool sea and a few apartments on the top floor. Under

2070
02:55:47,880 --> 02:55:53,500
the program, eligible spaces must be currently vacant or demonstrably underutilized entrance

2071
02:55:53,500 --> 02:55:59,660
positioning to a new public facing use that contributes to increase pedestrian activity and

2072
02:55:59,660 --> 02:56:05,760
downtown vitality. It can be building owners or prospective tenants can apply for the

2073
02:56:05,760 --> 02:56:12,120
matching funds for interior build out building system upgrades and home compliance work necessary

2074
02:56:12,120 --> 02:56:18,800
to bring the vacant or underutilized space into productive use. We're focused on businesses that

2075
02:56:18,800 --> 02:56:24,220
generate regular customer visits and visible storefront activity, including restaurants,

2076
02:56:24,660 --> 02:56:31,120
bakery, specialty food, shop, specialty retail, personal services, and arts and experiential

2077
02:56:31,120 --> 02:56:39,240
uses. The applicant has to obtain all required permits for the work and we would only reimburse

2078
02:56:39,240 --> 02:56:45,940
once they've completed the eligible work and had the verification of the work before payment.

2079
02:56:45,940 --> 02:56:51,700
We would be asking for a minimum occupancy requirement of two years.

2080
02:56:52,260 --> 02:56:57,760
We would have the Clawback provision, a pro-rated repayment provision in the event of early vacancy

2081
02:56:57,760 --> 02:57:00,660
or non-compliance with the program guidelines.

2082
02:57:01,760 --> 02:57:09,380
We would seek a execution of a mortgage for a building owner applicant or a tenant applicant

2083
02:57:09,380 --> 02:57:11,600
that requires advanced infrastructure.

2084
02:57:11,600 --> 02:57:20,280
So more significant electric or other sort of utility improvements that would stay with the property.

2085
02:57:20,580 --> 02:57:26,600
We'd be asking for a mortgage, there was a standard tenant fit out, we'd be looking for a promissory,

2086
02:57:27,140 --> 02:57:28,920
no or other security interest.

2087
02:57:29,880 --> 02:57:36,280
So from a financial policy perspective, the program is designed to leverage private investment

2088
02:57:36,280 --> 02:57:45,240
in a minimum 1 to 1 ratio, while increasing the commercial occupancy, supporting small business growth.

2089
02:57:45,420 --> 02:57:49,600
We've had some significant recent growth, and we want to continue that momentum.

2090
02:57:50,660 --> 02:57:55,240
And enhancing the long-term tax base within the Windsor Center tip district.

2091
02:57:56,100 --> 02:58:05,080
As the town manager mentioned, the EDC and the TIF advisory committee did review the draft program guidelines and our supportive of this effort.

2092
02:58:05,080 --> 02:58:07,460
and with that I'll take any questions.

2093
02:58:07,900 --> 02:58:09,340
Thank you so much, Patrick.

2094
02:58:10,060 --> 02:58:12,580
May I make a motion matter?

2095
02:58:13,400 --> 02:58:16,800
I would like to take a listen to September 8.

2096
02:58:19,920 --> 02:58:22,120
Okay, and so you made the motion.

2097
02:58:22,340 --> 02:58:25,080
It's been a second, but we sort of have an amendment?

2098
02:58:25,080 --> 02:58:25,340
Probably.

2099
02:58:25,840 --> 02:58:30,100
Yeah, because that's on like you need to ask for amendment

2100
02:58:30,100 --> 02:58:32,640
to the main motion that we are currently.

2101
02:58:36,600 --> 02:58:40,460
I believe you can make a motion to amend or you can request to table.

2102
02:58:40,460 --> 02:58:46,740
You request to table. I'm request to table, there's motion.

2103
02:58:50,340 --> 02:58:51,960
It's a request here.

2104
02:58:52,180 --> 02:58:52,700
It's a request.

2105
02:58:52,700 --> 02:58:54,180
Could you?

2106
02:58:55,020 --> 02:58:55,140
Yeah.

2107
02:58:55,140 --> 02:58:55,560
So, no.

2108
02:58:55,840 --> 02:58:56,580
Because that's what I love.

2109
02:58:56,700 --> 02:58:58,060
It's the same thing that we are getting.

2110
02:58:58,360 --> 02:58:59,060
You can refuse.

2111
02:58:59,660 --> 02:58:59,860
Yeah.

2112
02:59:00,220 --> 02:59:02,340
Because we already made the motion.

2113
02:59:02,580 --> 02:59:03,000
There's a second.

2114
02:59:04,380 --> 02:59:09,140
We've heard from Mr. I mean, man, and we're now getting ready for a discussion.

2115
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:12,900
Madam Mayor, if I may, I just ask a question for that request.

2116
02:59:13,200 --> 02:59:16,680
Could you share a little bit more about the reasoning to table this for September 8th?

2117
02:59:16,880 --> 02:59:17,220
Yes.

2118
02:59:17,220 --> 02:59:26,120
I don't believe the taxpayers should be partly responsible for funding private business in town.

2119
02:59:26,800 --> 02:59:39,400
Even with the way he's laid it out, I feel that it's still up to the contract or to the owner of the building to pay for his own upgrades.

2120
02:59:40,020 --> 02:59:43,160
I mean, and also, to me, it also tends to tie the project.

2121
02:59:43,920 --> 02:59:45,900
You know, if you're going to say,

2122
02:59:47,220 --> 02:59:48,100
fund a,

2123
02:59:50,240 --> 02:59:51,560
you know, a male voice.

2124
02:59:52,120 --> 02:59:53,640
Say, and she's a small business.

2125
02:59:54,920 --> 02:59:57,860
Then I could perhaps see where the town might like to help her out.

2126
02:59:58,260 --> 02:59:59,880
But some of the other business doesn't sound such.

2127
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:08,680
As an example is the train station, you know what I'm talking about, and what train wreck, or the wreck to our economy.

2128
03:00:09,320 --> 03:00:20,380
A train wreck, I don't feel that the town should be responsible paying taxes to our taxpayer money to help support the renovation of that particular building.

2129
03:00:20,860 --> 03:00:29,340
Can I just interrupt for a minute? No, I just want to ask a point of clarity, because my understanding of a table, a motion to table is not to kill a motion.

2130
03:00:29,340 --> 03:00:36,900
And that's what I think your argument, your reasoning, is that you, to me, sounds like you're trying to kill the motion.

2131
03:00:37,900 --> 03:00:44,440
So I don't, I just want to put, make that clear because if you're asking to table a motion for a later date,

2132
03:00:44,440 --> 03:00:49,840
it should be for consideration for whatever reason, but you're actually describing why you're against the motion.

2133
03:00:50,340 --> 03:00:56,760
So to me, that's to kill the motion, and it's not to table the motion, which is not appropriate use of tabling motion.

2134
03:00:57,240 --> 03:01:01,760
So I just want to put that out there if you want to follow the Robert's rule right.

2135
03:01:03,180 --> 03:01:03,620
So

2136
03:01:05,830 --> 03:01:07,750
I might be wrong.

2137
03:01:08,210 --> 03:01:10,330
I believe you're not wrong.

2138
03:01:11,130 --> 03:01:11,150
You're not wrong.

2139
03:01:11,150 --> 03:01:11,690
You are not wrong.

2140
03:01:12,230 --> 03:01:14,790
So, council to rent.

2141
03:01:15,710 --> 03:01:16,650
Thank you for expressing.

2142
03:01:16,950 --> 03:01:20,450
That's what I was hoping that we could get to when we had the main motion.

2143
03:01:20,610 --> 03:01:23,890
It's just to have a conversation about this.

2144
03:01:27,610 --> 03:01:28,050
Okay.

2145
03:01:28,050 --> 03:01:34,210
day and with additional understanding of what all this entails.

2146
03:01:34,570 --> 03:01:37,950
What is the dishonor saying you're looking for?

2147
03:01:38,390 --> 03:01:41,470
Well, for one, how do you divide up which who gets what?

2148
03:01:42,650 --> 03:01:44,510
So, as I say, the mills could get, you know,

2149
03:01:44,510 --> 03:01:46,390
mill, small business, maybe...

2150
03:01:46,390 --> 03:01:47,110
So, what happens?

2151
03:01:47,110 --> 03:01:47,330
So, what happens?

2152
03:01:48,430 --> 03:01:53,070
So, I think what's being laid out here and sometimes you have to say the quiet things out

2153
03:01:53,070 --> 03:02:03,310
because in your description of a entity here in town, right, that's one parcel that's one business.

2154
03:02:04,110 --> 03:02:07,630
That's one example. Correct. I'm going somewhere with this.

2155
03:02:07,990 --> 03:02:16,070
But what Mr. Man just explained that came through our economic development team and with the TIFF,

2156
03:02:17,510 --> 03:02:21,890
I'm always using another example which I think we're off familiar with. Think about the little paddy shop, right?

2157
03:02:21,890 --> 03:02:27,450
A little patty shop was able to do some different things that is a public benefit.

2158
03:02:27,750 --> 03:02:32,950
Isn't that what you have here in this example that you've laid out that was in our backup

2159
03:02:32,950 --> 03:02:36,610
documents, Mr. McMahon, if I want to go back and read it.

2160
03:02:39,960 --> 03:02:45,040
That eligible uses that are public facing and expected to generate regular customer visits

2161
03:02:45,040 --> 03:02:49,380
invisible snore front activity, right, and it lays out what it can be.

2162
03:02:49,380 --> 03:02:59,400
So, I'm just trying to figure out is the concern of a particular entity, or are we not

2163
03:02:59,400 --> 03:03:05,020
then saying we don't want these types of activities in our town center.

2164
03:03:05,520 --> 03:03:10,040
So, I'm just trying to put that out there for everybody for meaningful discussion, because

2165
03:03:10,040 --> 03:03:14,720
I think sometimes you do have to say the quiet thing out loud to help everybody understand.

2166
03:03:14,720 --> 03:03:17,540
And we see the vibrancy that's coming into our town.

2167
03:03:17,700 --> 03:03:22,120
There are people that might want to utilize a storefront.

2168
03:03:22,580 --> 03:03:27,660
And I think this would be something that would assist that would be public facing and would

2169
03:03:27,660 --> 03:03:30,880
also cause that vibrancy that we're looking to see.

2170
03:03:31,200 --> 03:03:33,880
And if I'm incorrect, I'm always willing to apologize.

2171
03:03:34,460 --> 03:03:37,960
Madam Mayor, just as a point of order,

2172
03:03:40,500 --> 03:03:42,560
a motion to table.

2173
03:03:42,960 --> 03:03:46,700
does require the second. It's not debatable. So there does need to be a vote.

2174
03:03:47,740 --> 03:03:48,600
Can't be amended

2175
03:03:50,120 --> 03:03:55,220
I think we're still in discussion right of the media. You don't have to discuss it. He didn't have to respond to it

2176
03:03:55,220 --> 03:04:00,100
But he did so you're right we could have just voted on it all right. Well, let's do that as a point of order

2177
03:04:00,100 --> 03:04:04,440
There's a different to an emotion of table an emotion of postpone right so if he's making emotion a table

2178
03:04:04,440 --> 03:04:09,760
That's a different thing than emotion the postpone to a date if you want to revise the motion and make the motion close to a certain

2179
03:04:12,560 --> 03:04:13,720
to a reason our motion is correct.

2180
03:04:14,280 --> 03:04:16,600
Yeah, since we want to go up and see a race.

2181
03:04:17,400 --> 03:04:19,060
So if we're going to make a motion with that right,

2182
03:04:19,080 --> 03:04:20,140
the table is laying out the table.

2183
03:04:20,300 --> 03:04:22,640
It's very different than who's putting it to a certain time date.

2184
03:04:23,200 --> 03:04:24,620
Well, you can be able to date.

2185
03:04:24,800 --> 03:04:26,440
So here's what we're going to do today.

2186
03:04:26,540 --> 03:04:27,480
Here's what we're going to do.

2187
03:04:27,680 --> 03:04:28,160
You'll come back.

2188
03:04:28,340 --> 03:04:31,940
It's all in favor of tabling this motion.

2189
03:04:34,930 --> 03:04:35,450
Are you asking?

2190
03:04:36,390 --> 03:04:36,790
We're voting.

2191
03:04:36,870 --> 03:04:38,050
I don't think you vote on the table.

2192
03:04:38,050 --> 03:04:40,190
He just said that he needs a vote.

2193
03:04:40,650 --> 03:04:40,770
All right.

2194
03:04:41,730 --> 03:04:43,130
All in favor of tabling the motion?

2195
03:04:43,770 --> 03:04:44,130
All right.

2196
03:04:44,310 --> 03:04:44,710
All right.

2197
03:04:44,710 --> 03:04:50,010
No, all right, and next, I'm going to ask for a roll call, all in favor of table

2198
03:04:50,010 --> 03:04:56,390
promotion, considerate, Council of Healthy, Council of Elevalt, Council of Black

2199
03:04:56,390 --> 03:04:59,530
often, thank you, all.

2200
03:05:01,670 --> 03:05:11,770
Opposed to table in the motion, Councillor Armstrong. Opposed. Councillor King. No. Councillor Noine. No. Deputy Mayor. No.

2201
03:05:12,330 --> 03:05:15,630
Nishet Blackberg. No. I'm sorry?

2202
03:05:16,390 --> 03:05:18,610
I said it's a strange way to ask the questions.

2203
03:05:19,230 --> 03:05:21,250
Well, no. I wanted to make sure that I'm hearing everybody.

2204
03:05:22,410 --> 03:05:26,590
Okay. I don't mind a roll call vote. It's just that the manner of the questioning was.

2205
03:05:27,250 --> 03:05:28,570
that I call your name?

2206
03:05:28,570 --> 03:05:28,950
Interesting.

2207
03:05:29,550 --> 03:05:31,710
I call each council by name that was interesting?

2208
03:05:32,070 --> 03:05:32,090
No.

2209
03:05:32,870 --> 03:05:34,090
All right.

2210
03:05:34,210 --> 03:05:35,650
So we're back to the motion in the floor.

2211
03:05:36,270 --> 03:05:36,890
Thank you so much.

2212
03:05:36,930 --> 03:05:37,730
This came through finance.

2213
03:05:37,930 --> 03:05:39,330
I'd love to shed some light on this.

2214
03:05:39,450 --> 03:05:42,010
We had a lot of discussion starting back in June.

2215
03:05:42,310 --> 03:05:46,590
Our June finance meeting had a lot of questions for the

2216
03:05:47,110 --> 03:05:50,870
time manager and for the economic development staff as well as

2217
03:05:50,870 --> 03:05:53,810
some information we wouldn't have liked from the economic development commission.

2218
03:05:53,810 --> 03:05:57,250
And we came back to it last week to discuss this.

2219
03:05:57,730 --> 03:06:00,090
This is something that was brought forward with a three-zero vote.

2220
03:06:00,170 --> 03:06:03,210
Councillor Elevalle was very much more supportive of this, so that I probably was at the

2221
03:06:03,210 --> 03:06:06,970
get going June and continue to push this forward through the vote.

2222
03:06:08,870 --> 03:06:11,010
There, I don't know if Councillor Elevalle has read through it.

2223
03:06:11,270 --> 03:06:14,590
I'm so clear on what the outstanding questions are that we need answered.

2224
03:06:14,590 --> 03:06:17,610
I'd love to hear more about that since the staff is here to answer them.

2225
03:06:17,930 --> 03:06:23,790
I thought that the outline that was put together by the staff and then reviewed by the economic

2226
03:06:23,790 --> 03:06:29,370
development commission around the program guidelines was very thorough. I appreciate you spending

2227
03:06:29,370 --> 03:06:33,930
the time to go through it with us at the Finance Committee meeting. It covered a couple of things

2228
03:06:33,930 --> 03:06:39,510
that we've heard coming up in the town and surrounding towns when it comes to programs like this.

2229
03:06:39,650 --> 03:06:44,730
One concerns around, hey, if we give businesses money to come into town, what happens if they leave six

2230
03:06:44,730 --> 03:06:51,290
months after, we have a two-year time limit that says, if you do not stay for at least two years

2231
03:06:51,290 --> 03:06:55,590
after receiving this funding, then you have to pay it back and there are legal

2232
03:06:55,590 --> 03:07:00,170
ramifications as well as potential leans on the building. So we spent a lot of

2233
03:07:00,170 --> 03:07:04,610
time asking for information on that and covering those pieces. There's also a

2234
03:07:04,610 --> 03:07:10,930
very thorough scoring and prioritization matrix that covers, I believe, seven

2235
03:07:10,930 --> 03:07:16,370
different categories, and that's how we would consider different businesses.

2236
03:07:16,370 --> 03:07:21,350
may it be, you know, the B may it be the train rack or others.

2237
03:07:21,730 --> 03:07:25,850
And I want to step back and talk about what we're aiming to achieve with this program versus

2238
03:07:26,810 --> 03:07:29,070
Madam Mayor, I really appreciate you calling out that.

2239
03:07:29,110 --> 03:07:34,510
Is this about a single issue about who owns the property or is this really about vibrancy?

2240
03:07:35,190 --> 03:07:38,750
The economic development commission has brought this forward because it is about vibrancy.

2241
03:07:38,950 --> 03:07:40,470
The tiff improvement district was created.

2242
03:07:40,730 --> 03:07:41,770
I actually wasn't even on the council.

2243
03:07:41,890 --> 03:07:45,650
I got to serve on the economic development commission when we created the tiff.

2244
03:07:45,650 --> 03:07:49,630
was to bring that vibrancy to encourage more business coming into town center.

2245
03:07:50,170 --> 03:07:54,410
We today have more active business in town center than we did before the tiff district was established.

2246
03:07:55,030 --> 03:07:58,670
I can say that because that's when I moved into town and a lot of those businesses weren't around.

2247
03:07:59,650 --> 03:08:03,850
So what this is hoping to do is take a look at places like the train wreck which

2248
03:08:03,850 --> 03:08:08,230
right now a lot of businesses let's say we want a restaurant in there. I don't know any

2249
03:08:08,230 --> 03:08:13,050
restaurants that's going to move in instead of a full kitchen without an HFAC system in there

2250
03:08:13,050 --> 03:08:14,070
And that is not cheap.

2251
03:08:14,490 --> 03:08:15,710
Sure, the landlord could do it.

2252
03:08:17,350 --> 03:08:19,710
But why turn away businesses that want to come in

2253
03:08:19,710 --> 03:08:21,170
and want to figure out how to do it?

2254
03:08:21,350 --> 03:08:22,710
Not saying that that landlord would even

2255
03:08:22,710 --> 03:08:24,250
want to participate in this program.

2256
03:08:24,630 --> 03:08:30,030
But I think that we're being very specific.

2257
03:08:31,410 --> 03:08:34,190
That single landlord does not own all of the businesses

2258
03:08:34,190 --> 03:08:35,950
that this could potentially support.

2259
03:08:36,270 --> 03:08:40,670
And I do think we need to look at where we can bring in more

2260
03:08:41,330 --> 03:08:44,210
We have a thorough process. We have the right requirements.

2261
03:08:44,730 --> 03:08:48,510
This has been reviewed by many different governing bodies.

2262
03:08:48,530 --> 03:08:52,630
Starting from the, obviously, the town staff at the Economic Development Commission,

2263
03:08:52,890 --> 03:08:54,950
the Finance Committee spent two meetings on this.

2264
03:08:55,370 --> 03:08:58,150
It was fully approved by all three members of the Finance Committee.

2265
03:08:58,510 --> 03:09:03,450
I'm surprised that Councillor Elevalle wants to table this because we have plenty of time to ask a lot of questions.

2266
03:09:03,830 --> 03:09:05,350
And I still don't know what the questions are.

2267
03:09:05,430 --> 03:09:08,290
So it feels like we're kind of just kicking things around

2268
03:09:08,290 --> 03:09:10,990
without knowing what are the outstanding questions on this.

2269
03:09:11,410 --> 03:09:12,970
The last thing I want to clarify is,

2270
03:09:13,250 --> 03:09:14,490
I understand that there's concerns

2271
03:09:14,490 --> 03:09:16,410
around how we're spending money as a town.

2272
03:09:17,210 --> 03:09:19,570
This specific program is coming from, again,

2273
03:09:19,670 --> 03:09:22,190
our tax increment financing zone.

2274
03:09:22,650 --> 03:09:25,730
It is money that is set aside that can only be used for certain things.

2275
03:09:26,090 --> 03:09:28,130
It cannot be used for pay-to-play sports.

2276
03:09:28,350 --> 03:09:29,750
It can only go into that district.

2277
03:09:29,850 --> 03:09:32,510
It can go into business improvements, infrastructure improvements.

2278
03:09:32,970 --> 03:09:34,730
All of that information is available online

2279
03:09:34,730 --> 03:09:36,010
as to how it can be used.

2280
03:09:36,010 --> 03:09:42,950
We've discussed it thoroughly at finance committee meetings as a refresher and if folks have other ideas on how we can use this again

2281
03:09:42,950 --> 03:09:47,950
I welcome you over and over please come to finance committee meetings we have public info sessions

2282
03:09:47,950 --> 03:09:54,070
We have lengthy agendas that we've already said that we'd like to cover but if there are other ideas we're here and open to it

2283
03:09:54,070 --> 03:09:59,970
But given all of those pieces I believe that this will give us an opportunity to try to bring in

2284
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:06,540
New business, new vibrancy. And if it's not successful, it doesn't meet this criteria. We don't do it. Thank you for the time.

2285
03:10:06,880 --> 03:10:21,720
And thank you, Councillor Naim. And I do want to say, I know that Councillor Elabel shared that, you know, he has heard from people in our conversation today, and we did receive a letter.

2286
03:10:21,720 --> 03:10:29,580
And I think that's important to always lift up that the concern, private fund is that a private investment

2287
03:10:29,580 --> 03:10:34,560
and what I would share is that what's laid out here in our supporting documents

2288
03:10:34,560 --> 03:10:41,060
I think will be really beneficial for everyone in town to be able to see that we are not looking for

2289
03:10:41,060 --> 03:10:46,600
one particular piece. We're trying to make sure that it is going to public facing

2290
03:10:46,600 --> 03:10:55,720
Is it going to bring customers? Is it going to bring foot traffic like that's the any so it's not about any one-private entity and what they own

2291
03:10:56,460 --> 03:10:59,520
But really trying to ensure that whatever

2292
03:11:00,480 --> 03:11:08,900
Entities receive the funding ensuring there's going to be public facing like a restaurant specialty retail use. So I'm thank you for that consular

2293
03:11:10,840 --> 03:11:13,160
Council if I may

2294
03:11:13,160 --> 03:11:16,280
There are part of the reason for the

2295
03:11:19,180 --> 03:11:27,960
agreeing to postpone it, table, whatever, is there is a lot of questions that I've been

2296
03:11:27,960 --> 03:11:34,080
asked about this, and by waiting a month, it gives those people not opportunity to take

2297
03:11:34,080 --> 03:11:38,640
a look through the paperwork themselves and come back with their own comments, pro-con,

2298
03:11:38,640 --> 03:11:54,440
whatever. What I'm getting is a lot of opposition, especially in the light of the recent board

2299
03:11:54,440 --> 03:12:03,080
of that action. And I'm being asked very point-plankedly, why are we doing this if we're

2300
03:12:03,080 --> 03:12:10,820
going to pay for play. So, the rationale to let postpone until the next meeting was to give

2301
03:12:10,820 --> 03:12:17,440
people an opportunity to review the information more thoroughly and then bring it back

2302
03:12:18,220 --> 03:12:20,780
up. That was the rationale. Simple.

2303
03:12:21,860 --> 03:12:25,560
Yeah, that's the clarify question. Well, it comes on to the other command to

2304
03:12:28,700 --> 03:12:28,700
you.

2305
03:12:28,700 --> 03:12:46,880
Council Armstrong. Yeah. Thank you, Madam Mayor. My, my, my, my thoughts. Did I just hear council elements say something about the board and add something to do with this repeat that council Armstrong did council element just say something about the board of and has something to do with this.

2306
03:12:46,880 --> 03:12:51,280
or he was stating that he's received questions

2307
03:12:51,280 --> 03:12:57,820
that why would we be doing this and we just went to pay

2308
03:12:57,820 --> 03:13:02,180
to play sports and Councilor Naim, I don't know if you were going

2309
03:13:02,180 --> 03:13:03,560
to respond to that or Councilor King.

2310
03:13:03,860 --> 03:13:06,020
But was that the only part of your question Council Armstrong?

2311
03:13:06,800 --> 03:13:09,800
Yeah, now I just wanted an understanding of that.

2312
03:13:10,220 --> 03:13:12,620
My question was I think I read somewhere where

2313
03:13:12,620 --> 03:13:15,160
you're going to be reimbursement based on incentives.

2314
03:13:15,160 --> 03:13:15,420
It

2315
03:13:18,620 --> 03:13:29,360
is a reimbursement mechanism, so the property owner, the tenant, would provide the

2316
03:13:29,360 --> 03:13:31,700
estimates to demonstrate the scope.

2317
03:13:32,040 --> 03:13:39,140
We would enter into a grant agreement that outlines the scope and what is intended to

2318
03:13:39,140 --> 03:13:39,840
be done.

2319
03:13:40,560 --> 03:13:47,780
They would have to provide quotes for the work, the work gets completed, after they've gotten

2320
03:13:47,780 --> 03:13:54,780
all the permits in place, and then we would only reimburse us, you know, the work was done

2321
03:13:54,780 --> 03:14:02,460
to the standard that our building official would see fit that we make that reimbursement.

2322
03:14:03,040 --> 03:14:05,220
Thank you. Thank you, Madam Mayor, that was my question.

2323
03:14:05,440 --> 03:14:07,220
Thank you so much, Council Armstrong.

2324
03:14:07,600 --> 03:14:08,820
Council and I thank you.

2325
03:14:11,740 --> 03:14:14,480
Thank you, Madam Mayor and Council and I am.

2326
03:14:15,820 --> 03:14:21,760
I just want to say that I've only lived in Windsor for it's going about to be 10 years actually, so congratulations to me.

2327
03:14:23,480 --> 03:14:34,660
Revitalizing and bringing economic development to Windsor Center has been pretty much the number one and sometimes only thing that's ever been talked about every time that I've knocked a door or talked to the community.

2328
03:14:34,960 --> 03:14:42,280
It's been the most important thing that folks have pointed out. The tip was intended to almost be a self-generating stream of revenue, right?

2329
03:14:42,280 --> 03:14:48,780
As you invest in that center, it raises the value of the properties and adds more revenue to it to have more investment.

2330
03:14:49,440 --> 03:14:51,420
We're using it exactly as it was intended.

2331
03:14:52,100 --> 03:14:59,160
I understand that it's coming out of time where we're making other choices on our budgets and so it looks kind of confusing.

2332
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:06,500
But this is what the purpose of that set-up was. And I can't stress enough that I have a single conversation

2333
03:15:06,500 --> 03:15:10,700
in five years of doing this and being involved. That isn't what are we doing for the town center.

2334
03:15:10,940 --> 03:15:15,020
We haven't ran on that, et cetera, et cetera. So I think it's super important that programs like these.

2335
03:15:15,120 --> 03:15:18,580
We know they work. We've seen them work in hardford. We've seen them work in other towns and cities.

2336
03:15:19,220 --> 03:15:24,540
It's going to provide real vibrancy and we need to support it because that's what the money is earmarked for.

2337
03:15:25,120 --> 03:15:27,640
So I just wanted to put that out.

2338
03:15:27,640 --> 03:15:35,100
Thank you. Thank you, Combsking. Deputy Mayor. Thank you. So I just wanted to reiterate what you impacts.

2339
03:15:35,300 --> 03:15:39,680
And so the tip, I believe the tip district is existed since 2022, is that correct?

2340
03:15:39,760 --> 03:15:40,300
That's correct.

2341
03:15:40,500 --> 03:15:45,040
And I think it passed in at 8000, though. I think one concert was missing from that vote when it passed.

2342
03:15:45,800 --> 03:15:49,500
So it was a, it was an all unanimous vote when it passed.

2343
03:15:49,600 --> 03:15:54,700
And I agree, the timing is not perfect. I know we had a budget fail.

2344
03:15:54,700 --> 03:15:58,540
But my understanding is the money from the TIFC grant.

2345
03:15:59,040 --> 03:16:02,520
The TIFC district cannot be reallocated to other districts or other budgets.

2346
03:16:02,900 --> 03:16:03,420
Is that correct?

2347
03:16:03,820 --> 03:16:05,860
That is the intention of the district, yes.

2348
03:16:07,420 --> 03:16:09,940
So, and I think the rules are really well structured.

2349
03:16:10,300 --> 03:16:11,280
Can you help me understand?

2350
03:16:11,780 --> 03:16:15,920
So, let's say I'm a storefront, one of the people who apply for the grant,

2351
03:16:16,320 --> 03:16:19,880
and let's say I applied to apply for multiple grants.

2352
03:16:21,240 --> 03:16:22,240
Are you allowed to?

2353
03:16:22,240 --> 03:16:26,160
I have like three storefronts in my life to play for multiple grants.

2354
03:16:27,080 --> 03:16:33,360
Conceivably, yes, you would be vetted for the same exact information as to what the use is going to be,

2355
03:16:34,160 --> 03:16:39,680
what's the public facings of meat, the eligibility criteria, so that is possible.

2356
03:16:40,620 --> 03:16:43,340
And let's say I was unsuccessful in my first grant.

2357
03:16:43,500 --> 03:16:45,360
Like let's say I didn't come to that come to fruition.

2358
03:16:45,660 --> 03:16:47,420
Would it be likely that I would be eligible?

2359
03:16:47,620 --> 03:16:51,380
What I would get a, that you would approve me for my second application.

2360
03:16:53,200 --> 03:17:00,500
My anticipation is that if for whatever reason they fail to comply with the program guidelines,

2361
03:17:00,880 --> 03:17:09,420
the likelihood of them complying in future application, it would be a mark against that scoring for sure.

2362
03:17:09,680 --> 03:17:16,220
And how much control do you, as your office, do you have over the process?

2363
03:17:16,220 --> 03:17:20,640
if the people are successful or not over the criteria and how they're performing.

2364
03:17:21,660 --> 03:17:30,580
They will be completing a written application that goes through each of the eligibility criteria in the program guidelines.

2365
03:17:31,520 --> 03:17:35,840
I would vet that, bring it to my fellow development team on occasion.

2366
03:17:35,840 --> 03:17:43,030
potentially have outside expertise of absolutely necessary to to have had an application as well.

2367
03:17:44,140 --> 03:17:49,480
But this lines that it meets the underlying criteria that's established by you, hopefully tonight.

2368
03:17:50,260 --> 03:17:53,640
Then we would move forward with the application.

2369
03:17:54,780 --> 03:17:56,560
And then I don't know if maybe it's you or Peter.

2370
03:17:56,980 --> 03:18:05,200
Can you talk, can you just discuss why the Economic Development Commission recommended this program?

2371
03:18:05,200 --> 03:18:09,600
What the discussion was like from them because I know that commission meets pretty regularly

2372
03:18:09,600 --> 03:18:16,300
They're you know a group of folks who volunteer their time. They're committed to economic development and Windsor

2373
03:18:16,300 --> 03:18:19,600
So perhaps you can talk about their reasoning for recommending the program

2374
03:18:20,780 --> 03:18:24,880
So we we first were trying to react to

2375
03:18:24,880 --> 03:18:29,360
Your request to the town manager to find ways to

2376
03:18:30,080 --> 03:18:32,840
Fill the vacant spaces in the downtown and

2377
03:18:32,840 --> 03:19:00,880
And so I did research on programs in other communities, provided an extensive list of what folks have tried to do and communities we owned in on this challenge of tenant improvements in the upfront costs that that comes into play on that we thought it would be something that we would want to you know bring forward to the economic development commission they agreed to that general approach.

2378
03:19:00,880 --> 03:19:13,900
We looked at other items that were raised by the finance committee and others about a vacancy tax, which is not allowed in the state of Connecticut currently.

2379
03:19:14,180 --> 03:19:17,360
So we don't have the authority to do that.

2380
03:19:17,580 --> 03:19:22,820
So we were looking for other ways in which to try to move the needle.

2381
03:19:22,820 --> 03:19:30,180
So, some of these more highly visible, highly invisible vacancies, overall our vacancy rate

2382
03:19:30,180 --> 03:19:37,280
is very good, but we have these stubborn individual properties that are pretty visible

2383
03:19:37,280 --> 03:19:43,000
and we're trying to find the way to help the private sector get it done.

2384
03:19:43,320 --> 03:19:50,120
And again, iterate that it's leveraging, we're leveraging public funds with private sector

2385
03:19:50,120 --> 03:19:50,440
funds.

2386
03:19:51,120 --> 03:19:53,520
Thank you very much.

2387
03:19:54,380 --> 03:19:59,140
In patch give you could if you can just restart it was a question that I had asked earlier.

2388
03:20:00,050 --> 03:20:11,030
If you can just reset what the process is, if someone is granted to be a part of this program, the storefront activation, and they leave early.

2389
03:20:12,070 --> 03:20:26,150
They come in and make the application. They meet the criteria. If they meet the criteria, obviously the town manager would have to be willing to sign off on my report that they've met the criteria.

2390
03:20:26,150 --> 03:20:37,570
We would enter into a grant agreement that would just specify the amount and some of the aspects of the procedure in order to get to them to be reimbursed.

2391
03:20:38,150 --> 03:20:53,310
And simultaneously, with that if they sign the agreement, part of that would be this execution of either a promissory note with the tenant prospect or a mortgage if it is related to the building owner.

2392
03:20:53,310 --> 03:21:04,470
I mean, if I could just add to that economic development commission also may be asked to be able to review those.

2393
03:21:05,410 --> 03:21:13,430
It's not an absolute, but in years past, as you know, with other incentives, we have asked the economic development commission to review.

2394
03:21:13,710 --> 03:21:18,150
It's not necessarily stated directly in this policy, but that also was a possibility.

2395
03:21:18,990 --> 03:21:24,970
We've done with the fixed assessment or tax debate that we've done with the public.

2396
03:21:27,560 --> 03:21:28,640
Councillor Bacauca.

2397
03:21:29,540 --> 03:21:30,180
Councillor Bacauca.

2398
03:21:30,660 --> 03:21:31,120
Councillor Bacauca.

2399
03:21:31,120 --> 03:21:34,520
So in regards to that, Peter, it's a good point.

2400
03:21:35,500 --> 03:21:39,040
So you're seeing, and correct me, if I'm wrong, from hearing this incorrectly.

2401
03:21:39,360 --> 03:21:43,320
So you're seeing economic development commission may possibly review those applications.

2402
03:21:43,440 --> 03:21:45,820
If they do, they would have the deciding factor.

2403
03:21:45,820 --> 03:21:53,380
They would be input, they do not, the economic development commission does not have authority.

2404
03:21:54,260 --> 03:21:59,380
They are a advisory commission to both the town manager and to the town council.

2405
03:22:00,040 --> 03:22:06,000
And so that if we have a, I envision that is if there is a very difficult use their expertise.

2406
03:22:06,280 --> 03:22:08,100
We have bankers on that commission.

2407
03:22:08,180 --> 03:22:12,780
We have economic development professionals on that commission as well as small business owners.

2408
03:22:12,780 --> 03:22:23,180
And so we would use potentially use them for their expertise and input to help to make make to the decision, but again, that is not in absolute.

2409
03:22:23,800 --> 03:22:24,800
It's a possibility.

2410
03:22:25,540 --> 03:22:25,680
Thank you.

2411
03:22:25,760 --> 03:22:26,900
And I was a really good public to know.

2412
03:22:27,080 --> 03:22:27,840
So thank you so much.

2413
03:22:28,000 --> 03:22:28,920
I appreciate that.

2414
03:22:28,940 --> 03:22:29,280
Thank you.

2415
03:22:29,520 --> 03:22:29,860
Thank you.

2416
03:22:30,480 --> 03:22:41,680
I was just hoping that if this program does come up, we could publish something on our website, kind of clarifying some of the information about the program.

2417
03:23:11,540 --> 03:23:11,660
And you know, that it is coming from the

2418
03:23:11,660 --> 03:23:13,640
document, that is at that process.

2419
03:23:14,220 --> 03:23:22,600
That budget does by policy, we go to the Economic Development Commission and the TIF advisory

2420
03:23:22,600 --> 03:23:24,940
Commission and get their input.

2421
03:23:26,160 --> 03:23:35,380
The council may choose not to allocate all of those funds to the TIF.

2422
03:23:35,380 --> 03:23:41,940
I could envision in five years from now, we may be in a position where the infrastructure projects

2423
03:23:41,940 --> 03:23:49,120
are in a position where we potentially could take a year or two off from those applications.

2424
03:23:49,320 --> 03:23:53,980
Obviously as we do, we have contractual obligations with accredited enhancement agreements.

2425
03:23:54,140 --> 03:23:57,300
And if we have more of those in the future, we have legal obligations.

2426
03:23:57,420 --> 03:23:59,200
So we have to be mindful of that.

2427
03:23:59,200 --> 03:24:05,240
But it's one of the clarifying that there's a process here in per of the town council 2022

2428
03:24:05,240 --> 03:24:13,200
Tiff policy that lays that out in this this policy this propote budget was included in the FY27

2429
03:24:15,720 --> 03:24:16,920
Budget process.

2430
03:24:20,450 --> 03:24:23,150
I would also just add to that

2431
03:24:23,150 --> 03:24:30,950
Mr. Susan that you if I recall puts our adding things in like first down funding for first town downtown and things like that.

2432
03:24:30,950 --> 03:24:38,550
may incorrect. Correct. The appropriations that the town council approved as part of the budget was

2433
03:24:38,550 --> 03:24:43,150
a contribution to the art center. Windsor art center, contribution to first down downtown.

2434
03:24:46,410 --> 03:24:56,450
As a, if I may matter, may have backed up a little bit. So the tip policy states that 25% of

2435
03:24:56,450 --> 03:24:58,450
the increment.

2436
03:25:00,210 --> 03:25:05,190
That has been generated, goes automatically to the general fund.

2437
03:25:08,130 --> 03:25:11,030
Two years ago now, when we did

2438
03:25:11,030 --> 03:25:19,750
revaluation, the town manager had proposed that there would be an additional $125,000 that would

2439
03:25:19,750 --> 03:25:30,830
be allocated to the general fund in recognition of property revaluation impact. So, the general fund for

2440
03:25:30,830 --> 03:25:41,370
WI-27 is receiving approximately $320,000 from the TIF dollars, which is more, which is

2441
03:25:41,370 --> 03:25:45,570
$125,000 more than what the baseline policy states.

2442
03:25:47,230 --> 03:25:51,150
And so I just wanted to refresh everyone's mind.

2443
03:25:51,910 --> 03:26:00,510
And so this past year, the town council in FY26, had approved approximately $200,000

2444
03:26:00,510 --> 03:26:08,790
for paving in repaying work here in town center, which that work has been largely completed.

2445
03:26:11,920 --> 03:26:13,040
Any other concern about?

2446
03:26:14,180 --> 03:26:18,600
A question was decision that was brought to my attention, and we've discussed this earlier,

2447
03:26:18,860 --> 03:26:22,660
is the 389,640 dollars.

2448
03:26:22,680 --> 03:26:26,940
It is a rather specific number.

2449
03:26:26,940 --> 03:26:35,180
So, have we received applications in light of this or is put to rationale for that rather unusual number?

2450
03:26:36,080 --> 03:26:37,940
It is a little bit of unusual number.

2451
03:26:38,280 --> 03:26:41,760
It's a, first of all, we have not received any applications.

2452
03:26:42,020 --> 03:26:46,640
We have not solicited any applications because the town council is not approved the program guidelines.

2453
03:26:47,440 --> 03:26:52,800
So, just to be clear on that, the, the rather odd number is a,

2454
03:26:52,800 --> 03:27:01,960
It's really a calculation as a town council reduced the budget and adjusted the mill rate.

2455
03:27:02,480 --> 03:27:15,140
Once the adopted budget was done, it generated a very specific number because that's how this increment is generated based upon that year's tax mill rate.

2456
03:27:15,140 --> 03:27:24,080
And so when you mind us off that total the contributions to the general fund you take those as I mentioned the town center

2457
03:27:24,080 --> 03:27:29,740
Soon the art center in the first end downtown appropriations. That's what leaves this 389

2458
03:27:30,860 --> 03:27:34,570
thousand six hundred and forty dollars. Thank you

2459
03:27:35,510 --> 03:27:38,790
I try to round it, but Mr. Bork our finance director said no you could

2460
03:27:40,390 --> 03:27:43,290
All right, so if we're ready for the vocal council

2461
03:27:44,990 --> 03:27:52,070
I guess this program I think has some very good intentions with it and I know Councillor

2462
03:27:52,070 --> 03:27:56,530
King and others have said even in the shorter time that I've been here as well that

2463
03:27:56,530 --> 03:28:00,270
people always point to the flaws of building, they always point to some of the empty buildings

2464
03:28:00,270 --> 03:28:01,410
in town.

2465
03:28:01,730 --> 03:28:05,210
I know Patrick will man, many times points to the same buildings and say they're not derelict

2466
03:28:05,210 --> 03:28:07,990
their upcap, they're maintained in the property taxes are paid.

2467
03:28:08,610 --> 03:28:12,270
So I think in many times who are we to say to anybody else you've got to be doing something

2468
03:28:12,270 --> 03:28:16,490
better or different with your property, and I think that strikes at the heart of the old

2469
03:28:16,490 --> 03:28:21,470
keylovers, and you wondered what Pfizer was, and I know just as so counter-basically

2470
03:28:21,470 --> 03:28:26,950
had said in her descent in that ruling, which is a highly unpopular ruling, by the way, that

2471
03:28:26,950 --> 03:28:33,930
at least private property vulnerable to be given over to wealthier private property. It's not

2472
03:28:33,930 --> 03:28:38,350
really an apples to apples compare us in here, but I look at it as you're taking people

2473
03:28:38,350 --> 03:28:41,170
who live in that district in other businesses.

2474
03:28:42,070 --> 03:28:44,190
And I think the long term understanding

2475
03:28:44,670 --> 03:28:46,710
and if I had originally been on the council

2476
03:28:46,710 --> 03:28:48,070
and the tip was being presented.

2477
03:28:49,050 --> 03:28:51,550
And I mean, I know I was sitting here listening to it,

2478
03:28:51,750 --> 03:28:54,930
was that this was not going to be used for this type of thing.

2479
03:28:55,090 --> 03:28:58,350
It's just like, eminent domain would have been used for,

2480
03:28:58,470 --> 03:29:00,590
you're going to take, you're going to take somebody's private property

2481
03:29:00,590 --> 03:29:02,570
to put in a hospital, you're going to do a school,

2482
03:29:02,590 --> 03:29:04,370
you're going to do roadways, et cetera.

2483
03:29:05,070 --> 03:29:06,770
So I really feel like tiff district money

2484
03:29:06,770 --> 03:29:10,510
should be used for the infrastructure and if we want to entice businesses and we want to

2485
03:29:10,510 --> 03:29:15,170
get redevelopment, we take that money and we try and do something maybe for infrastructure

2486
03:29:15,170 --> 03:29:20,030
or we just try and fast track and string permitting, we do some of those other things.

2487
03:29:20,670 --> 03:29:25,850
I think we've already with a tiff district, a tiff district, sequestered money into the

2488
03:29:25,850 --> 03:29:31,730
district in some way, I know the intention is to use it in a district but it's money that

2489
03:29:31,730 --> 03:29:38,410
benefited the the the the wider community. But what I see with this is I think what in in in

2490
03:29:38,410 --> 03:29:43,550
Ms. Gravel's email that was read out and she said it quite quite nicely is that you're literally

2491
03:29:43,550 --> 03:29:49,670
taking tax payer dollars and I don't care if there's a two-year time frame. But I mean I think about it

2492
03:29:49,670 --> 03:29:58,750
if it was my property and you know I want to apply I can somehow increase the chances of being able to

2493
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:09,820
The look and something of my property in two years down the road, I can sell it for in a better way, and it was, you know, I'm basically cashing out at the taxpayer's expense.

2494
03:30:12,480 --> 03:30:26,900
I understand what the intent of this decision isn't the way I would want to go about this. So for me, it's a philosophical disagreement, and I want to see the development. I'd rather not see open storefronts, but it's private property.

2495
03:30:26,900 --> 03:30:31,660
It's up to the people if they want to, in part of owning a business, and being able to

2496
03:30:31,660 --> 03:30:37,200
maintain that business, and being able to start a business is to be able to have the capital

2497
03:30:37,200 --> 03:30:43,680
to be able to do it, to be able to take the risk and be willing and able to fail with it.

2498
03:30:43,740 --> 03:30:48,460
It's not for the public to constantly and always want to bail somebody out or make it happen

2499
03:30:48,460 --> 03:30:49,380
for them.

2500
03:30:49,740 --> 03:30:52,780
Again, I believe in the private enterprise in that regard.

2501
03:30:52,780 --> 03:30:56,900
So for me, I'm just gonna be a no-one this again. I can appreciate where this is going

2502
03:30:56,900 --> 03:30:59,780
I just don't think this is the proper role in scope of

2503
03:31:00,400 --> 03:31:03,800
Government in this country in a in particular at a local level

2504
03:31:07,350 --> 03:31:09,130
Are we ready for the vote?

2505
03:31:09,370 --> 03:31:11,230
Yes, we are. All right, all in favor?

2506
03:31:11,530 --> 03:31:14,470
I have. All opposed?

2507
03:31:16,130 --> 03:31:17,630
No. Any abstentions?

2508
03:31:20,530 --> 03:31:26,070
So that pass is 5, 1, 3.

2509
03:31:28,160 --> 03:31:28,300
Thank you.

2510
03:31:28,380 --> 03:31:30,480
I don't remember 13 resignations and appointments.

2511
03:31:31,540 --> 03:31:32,100
All right.

2512
03:31:32,860 --> 03:31:33,640
Thank you, Councillor Cain.

2513
03:31:33,920 --> 03:31:35,820
I don't remember 14 minutes of proceeding meetings.

2514
03:31:36,160 --> 03:31:42,280
I moved to approve the minutes of July 6, 2026 special town council meeting.

2515
03:31:42,820 --> 03:31:46,240
And the minutes of the July 6, 2026 regular town council meeting.

2516
03:31:46,580 --> 03:31:47,780
Second, thank you, council.

2517
03:31:47,780 --> 03:31:49,800
questions or comments, Councillors.

2518
03:31:52,000 --> 03:31:55,440
If we're ready for the vote on favour, I hear you know

2519
03:31:55,440 --> 03:32:01,900
opposition or abstentions, we are back to public communications and petitions. We ask

2520
03:32:01,900 --> 03:32:05,620
that all speakers conduct themselves with civility and respect, please do not refer to

2521
03:32:05,620 --> 03:32:10,180
other speakers by name or use the Raghatorian Flamatory or Disrespectful Language when

2522
03:32:10,180 --> 03:32:19,100
expressing your views. Please note that this portion of the meeting is for the Council

2523
03:32:19,100 --> 03:32:24,160
In discussion during public comment, your comments will be received and considered as part of the public record.

2524
03:32:24,640 --> 03:32:29,360
Thank you for your participation and for helping to maintain a respectful and productive meeting environment.

2525
03:32:30,100 --> 03:32:33,180
If anyone would like to address the council, we ask that you step forward,

2526
03:32:33,360 --> 03:32:36,020
state your name and address, and you will be given three minutes to speak.

2527
03:32:36,440 --> 03:32:38,840
At the sound of the time, we ask that you conclude your comments.

2528
03:32:39,300 --> 03:32:42,400
At the 60 second mark, a yellow card will be held up.

2529
03:32:42,520 --> 03:32:46,100
At the 30 second mark, a red card will be held up.

2530
03:32:46,860 --> 03:32:48,380
And I'll turn over to Scott Colby.

2531
03:32:49,340 --> 03:32:49,840
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2532
03:32:49,980 --> 03:32:52,020
There is anyone from the public who is virtual this evening.

2533
03:32:52,180 --> 03:32:53,140
We'd like to address the council.

2534
03:32:53,240 --> 03:32:55,100
You may do so by raising your hand on your computer.

2535
03:32:55,640 --> 03:32:58,340
I select in the participants icon of the Zoom and you are and then clicking

2536
03:32:58,340 --> 03:33:00,580
Raise Hand or by dialing star and on your phone.

2537
03:33:01,100 --> 03:33:02,160
You'll be given three minutes to speak.

2538
03:33:02,400 --> 03:33:04,220
Please state your name and address when you were called on.

2539
03:33:04,280 --> 03:33:05,980
You'll be prompted the email and you did.

2540
03:33:06,160 --> 03:33:08,440
For those dialing you by phone, once prompted, you will then arrest

2541
03:33:08,440 --> 03:33:09,300
our six to unmute.

2542
03:33:09,700 --> 03:33:12,560
For clear communication, we ask that you do not place the call on speakerphone.

2543
03:33:15,020 --> 03:33:17,620
At the time of that, we have no virtual attendees with their hand raised.

2544
03:33:17,620 --> 03:33:24,220
Thank you so much. We'll move to the town hall chamber. If you'd like to address the council, please step forward.

2545
03:33:24,360 --> 03:33:27,440
State your name and address, and you'll be given three minutes to speak.

2546
03:33:42,910 --> 03:33:49,470
First, late 74th and drive. Within two months, we'll reach lean date number four.

2547
03:33:49,790 --> 03:33:52,050
In this five year revel cycle.

2548
03:33:52,830 --> 03:34:02,070
About a year and a half ago, I'm talking to Josh Gaston, our town assessor about senior tax relief programs.

2549
03:34:02,810 --> 03:34:06,150
I asked him where things stood right at that moment.

2550
03:34:07,150 --> 03:34:08,070
He said, give me a minute.

2551
03:34:08,650 --> 03:34:11,330
He ran through some calculations within five minutes.

2552
03:34:11,590 --> 03:34:12,530
He had it.

2553
03:34:12,770 --> 03:34:14,330
He said, I wouldn't make clear.

2554
03:34:14,510 --> 03:34:16,010
I do not want to know that answer.

2555
03:34:16,990 --> 03:34:19,110
Because there's too much time in between.

2556
03:34:19,670 --> 03:34:22,550
But I wanted him to give that to the telemanager.

2557
03:34:25,090 --> 03:34:28,330
Yeah, it is too early to talk about that.

2558
03:34:28,330 --> 03:34:33,270
But I'm not sure if by October 1st, it's a little too late.

2559
03:34:34,330 --> 03:34:36,530
Me, I'm a planner planner planner planner.

2560
03:34:36,810 --> 03:34:41,110
Turn 70, between your July meeting and today,

2561
03:34:41,770 --> 03:34:44,330
and my already planning, my QCDs and R&Ds,

2562
03:34:45,470 --> 03:34:48,270
and then to retire at 56 that took years of planning.

2563
03:34:49,430 --> 03:34:52,850
And if you start talking about what to do in the next Reval,

2564
03:34:53,830 --> 03:34:56,270
you can plan, you can adjust, you can plan, or adjust.

2565
03:34:56,270 --> 03:34:59,270
but there's one big difference between...

2566
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:29,980
The next reval coming up in the one prior. I don't think you're going to have any done jobs and building capacity ability. It just won't be there. There's not that much growth in the plan list. There's not that much left for you to expand spending and get it approved. You won't be able to build capacity, which means a two-year horizon, three-year horizon for people.

2567
03:35:30,000 --> 03:35:33,680
planning is what you really should be doing.

2568
03:35:38,270 --> 03:35:39,350
Thank you.

2569
03:35:42,440 --> 03:35:43,000
All right.

2570
03:35:43,440 --> 03:35:45,720
We'll bring public communications in positions.

2571
03:35:47,740 --> 03:35:49,820
We do not have executive session this evening.

2572
03:35:50,360 --> 03:35:52,320
So with that, I'll entertain a motion for adjournment.

2573
03:35:52,380 --> 03:35:53,200
Motion to adjourn.

2574
03:35:54,040 --> 03:35:54,440
On favor?

2575
03:35:54,540 --> 03:35:54,740
There.

2576
03:35:55,120 --> 03:35:55,360
Second.

2577
03:35:55,440 --> 03:35:57,760
Thank you, God bless and God bless.

2578
03:35:57,760 --> 03:35:59,180
Major before that.

2579
03:35:59,400 --> 03:35:59,420
Further.

2580
03:39:02,690 --> 03:39:04,050
Special meeting to order.

2581
03:39:05,210 --> 03:39:12,050
The first order of business is called the communications and petitions, a five-limit time limit for

2582
03:39:12,610 --> 03:39:17,190
discuss anything we love, or presenting to us that is not the matter of a public hearing tonight.

2583
03:39:25,040 --> 03:39:26,460
Just tonight, we have a minute of line.

2584
03:39:27,480 --> 03:39:28,640
No one on line.

2585
03:39:29,160 --> 03:39:32,760
And I should have said you need to read the part about the online part.

2586
03:39:33,360 --> 03:39:37,940
If there's anyone from the public who would like to address the commission, you may do so by raising your hand on your computer.

2587
03:39:37,940 --> 03:39:39,620
If your device is a microphone capability,

2588
03:39:39,980 --> 03:39:42,600
by selecting the participants icon on the Zoom menu bar,

2589
03:39:42,940 --> 03:39:45,620
and then clicking raise hand or by doing star nine on your phone.

2590
03:39:46,480 --> 03:39:48,540
When you were called on your prompt that you were now unmuted,

2591
03:39:48,780 --> 03:39:49,980
please stay your name and address.

2592
03:39:50,220 --> 03:39:52,980
For clear communication, we ask that you do not place the call on speakerphone.

2593
03:39:58,040 --> 03:39:59,960
All right, so let's move on to...

2594
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:03,600
Comunications, meditions from members. Is anyone have anything?

2595
03:40:05,280 --> 03:40:08,460
Okay, public hearings, we have one.

2596
03:40:08,580 --> 03:40:09,160
Have you read the notice?

2597
03:40:09,800 --> 03:40:17,360
Notice this here by given that this commission will hold public hearings during its hybrid virtual special meeting on February 24th,

2598
03:40:17,560 --> 03:40:21,640
2026 at 7 p.m. to hear and consider the following item.

2599
03:40:21,640 --> 03:40:26,720
proposed update to the Plan of Conservation and Development Windsor 2035.

2600
03:40:28,220 --> 03:40:34,520
Information on how to attend the meeting by former computer will be included in the meeting agenda, blah, blah, blah.

2601
03:40:35,020 --> 03:40:38,160
Comments received ahead of the meeting will be read into the record.

2602
03:40:39,500 --> 03:40:44,100
And this was published in the Heart for Current on February the 1920.

2603
03:40:44,620 --> 03:40:49,480
Excuse me. On February 11th and February 18th, 2026.

2604
03:40:49,480 --> 03:40:51,820
Thank you.

2605
03:40:52,360 --> 03:40:54,620
So, it's open all the curing.

2606
03:40:56,060 --> 03:40:59,900
You don't like to speak for against our plan of conservation and development.

2607
03:41:00,680 --> 03:41:01,140
Proposed.

2608
03:41:02,600 --> 03:41:03,920
I do have a brief presentation.

2609
03:41:04,000 --> 03:41:04,540
Oh, you do?

2610
03:41:04,680 --> 03:41:06,060
Yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't know.

2611
03:41:06,280 --> 03:41:06,540
No worries.

2612
03:41:07,220 --> 03:41:08,400
I'm used to going, you're going last.

2613
03:41:09,420 --> 03:41:12,040
I just do want to confirm for the record.

2614
03:41:12,460 --> 03:41:16,560
We do have a need of myths in attendance by Zoom tonight.

2615
03:41:16,560 --> 03:41:22,560
And we also have alternate commissioner, Meg Harvey, and attendance as well, it looks like.

2616
03:41:23,260 --> 03:41:24,060
We're here.

2617
03:41:26,660 --> 03:41:28,040
Yep, I'm here too.

2618
03:41:42,570 --> 03:41:43,550
Any resembling commission?

2619
03:41:43,950 --> 03:41:45,350
The director's on the side of the ceiling.

2620
03:41:46,070 --> 03:41:46,770
Now plan.

2621
03:41:47,290 --> 03:41:49,790
With me out here is where you should take a seat.

2622
03:41:50,590 --> 03:41:54,030
Normally I play jazz studio, but now it's just this, I'm Meg.

2623
03:41:54,630 --> 03:41:58,210
So she served as our project manager for the life of this project.

2624
03:41:58,770 --> 03:42:01,370
And so she's here with me tonight to answer any questions

2625
03:42:01,370 --> 03:42:03,190
that might come off with hearing the public hearing.

2626
03:42:04,370 --> 03:42:09,090
So give me one second, and I will cue that up.

2627
03:42:21,670 --> 03:42:23,990
So I'll just kind of quickly go through some slides.

2628
03:42:24,170 --> 03:42:26,650
I'm not going to go through the full breadth of the P.O.C.D.

2629
03:42:26,950 --> 03:42:29,570
and touch on every topic or chapter, although if there's

2630
03:42:29,570 --> 03:42:32,750
anyone from the public or the commission that wants to kind of

2631
03:42:32,750 --> 03:42:35,710
focus in on a specific topic or chapter, we'd be happy

2632
03:42:35,710 --> 03:42:37,370
to do so with you during the hearing.

2633
03:42:38,270 --> 03:42:40,430
But I just kind of want to give a high level overview to sort

2634
03:42:40,430 --> 03:42:41,930
of set the stage for the plan.

2635
03:42:43,240 --> 03:42:49,080
So, the purpose of the plan is to provide the community with a long range planning guidance,

2636
03:42:49,660 --> 03:42:54,780
also meeting our statutory requirements in a line with regional and state planning goals.

2637
03:42:55,820 --> 03:43:03,160
State law requires municipalities to update their POCD every 10 years in order to reign eligible for certain discretionary funding.

2638
03:43:04,340 --> 03:43:08,100
It's important to emphasize that the POCD is not a regulatory document.

2639
03:43:08,100 --> 03:43:17,100
This is a policy document, it helps to inform land use and zoning decisions, but it does not guarantee or approve any specific outcome.

2640
03:43:18,040 --> 03:43:27,200
Instead, it establishes a community vision and a set of guiding principles that help frame future decisions related to zoning, zoning amendments and capital planning.

2641
03:43:28,280 --> 03:43:35,940
Ultimately, it helps ensure consistency as the town works towards its long-term goals, and it also serves as a snapshot of the community in time.

2642
03:43:37,930 --> 03:43:41,810
Over the past year, the town has implemented a comprehensive

2643
03:43:41,810 --> 03:43:43,290
public engagement effort.

2644
03:43:43,810 --> 03:43:48,290
This included two public workshops, five topics, specific focus group meetings,

2645
03:43:48,810 --> 03:43:51,190
interviews with key town departments and stakeholders,

2646
03:43:52,150 --> 03:43:54,970
and an online survey that received more than 800 responses.

2647
03:43:56,130 --> 03:43:58,410
The consultant worked closely with town staff and

2648
03:43:58,410 --> 03:44:02,510
a P.O.C.D advisory committee, which included representatives from

2649
03:44:02,510 --> 03:44:05,970
multiple boards and commissions to evaluate data and public input

2650
03:44:05,970 --> 03:44:08,830
and to develop the draft chapters and recommendations.

2651
03:44:09,610 --> 03:44:13,250
In total, there were 11 advisory committee meetings held

2652
03:44:13,250 --> 03:44:14,610
as part of this process.

2653
03:44:19,940 --> 03:44:22,340
And while we're getting into the POCD,

2654
03:44:22,340 --> 03:44:24,600
I want to take a moment and kind of step back in time

2655
03:44:24,600 --> 03:44:29,240
and look at our 2015 POCD and touch upon some of the highlights

2656
03:44:29,240 --> 03:44:32,340
and things that have been implemented since that document

2657
03:44:32,340 --> 03:44:33,260
was adopted.

2658
03:44:35,040 --> 03:44:37,280
So since the adoption of the 2015 POCD,

2659
03:44:37,280 --> 03:44:40,100
The town has made notable progress in several areas.

2660
03:44:40,920 --> 03:44:45,540
This includes a significant amount of housing development, including single-family homes, town

2661
03:44:45,540 --> 03:44:50,880
homes, apartments, as well as two mixed-use developments currently underway in Windsor Center.

2662
03:44:52,260 --> 03:44:57,320
During this period, the town also preserved a substantial amount of farmland and open space,

2663
03:44:58,120 --> 03:44:59,980
and achieved certification as a system.

2664
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:06,280
Unable seat, bronze, community, and invested in major upgrades to parks, playgrounds and town facilities.

2665
03:45:07,760 --> 03:45:14,120
So one of the reasons I want to pull this up is because none of these specific things were mentioned in the 2015 POCD.

2666
03:45:14,280 --> 03:45:19,440
They were given as generalities or broad goals that we were looking to achieve.

2667
03:45:20,020 --> 03:45:27,040
So when projects came up or opportunities for farmland preservation, our open space preservation came up,

2668
03:45:27,040 --> 03:45:33,700
You know, we were able to point to the P.O.C.D. and find that it aligned with those goals in that 2015 P.O.C.D. that, you know,

2669
03:45:33,920 --> 03:45:42,000
potentially opened us up to some possible funding sources or major, you know, decision-esque commissioners, relatively easy.

2670
03:45:43,700 --> 03:45:48,920
So that's the purpose of this document as to kind of help inform and accomplish some of these things that we have to list it there.

2671
03:45:53,540 --> 03:45:57,620
So I kind of, I was asking this question today, what's changed since 2015?

2672
03:45:58,240 --> 03:46:02,680
And I don't want to recap a historical event in detail, but, you know, over the past several

2673
03:46:02,680 --> 03:46:07,860
years, we've experienced circumstances that cause many of us to rethink priorities as

2674
03:46:07,860 --> 03:46:10,060
individuals, families, and communities.

2675
03:46:11,180 --> 03:46:15,860
And a question worth considering as we look back on this 2015 plan is whether our priorities

2676
03:46:15,860 --> 03:46:20,640
as a community have changed and I'm going to touch on that a little bit in the next slide

2677
03:46:20,640 --> 03:46:26,440
as I kind of go through some of the key takeaways from this new plan that we have.

2678
03:46:27,480 --> 03:46:31,000
So several consistent themes emerged through public input.

2679
03:46:31,640 --> 03:46:34,700
Residents expressed a strong sense of community and value

2680
03:46:34,700 --> 03:46:38,300
Windsor's diversity, small town character, and sense of belonging.

2681
03:46:39,420 --> 03:46:42,480
There was also a strong emphasis on preservation and sustainability,

2682
03:46:44,340 --> 03:46:49,100
particularly protecting farmland, open space, and natural resources.

2683
03:46:50,340 --> 03:46:54,280
Many residents spoke about the importance of enhancing Windsor Center,

2684
03:46:54,280 --> 03:46:59,490
including filling bacon seeds and supporting small businesses and creating a more vibrant downtown.

2685
03:47:01,640 --> 03:47:09,960
Housing was another major theme with a clear desire for more affordable, senior, friendly, and diverse housing options to meet changing demographics.

2686
03:47:11,600 --> 03:47:21,380
Quality of life remains a strength with Windsor's schools, history and cultural assets frequently noted, along with a desire for more youth programming and cultural events.

2687
03:47:22,980 --> 03:47:28,380
And then finally, residents consistently raise the need for improved mobility and infrastructure,

2688
03:47:29,300 --> 03:47:36,520
including safer pedestrian by connections, better transit access, and continue to invest in sustainable infrastructure.

2689
03:47:38,280 --> 03:47:46,440
So I would just note that, you know, many of these goals and aspirations were also identified in the 2015 POCD,

2690
03:47:46,980 --> 03:47:51,260
and they kind of reflect themes that the town has been actively working on over time.

2691
03:47:54,010 --> 03:47:59,910
So, today's question a lot has changed, but some of our goals and priorities have remained the same.

2692
03:48:02,960 --> 03:48:07,680
The plan is organized around a town wide vision that is supported by seven guiding principles.

2693
03:48:08,320 --> 03:48:14,260
Those guiding principles inform the goals and strategies with each plan, or with each chapter of the plan.

2694
03:48:14,640 --> 03:48:20,180
So, we have this kind of broad vision which gets broken down into goals, strategies, and then actions.

2695
03:48:20,180 --> 03:48:31,640
And then to inform those kind of those goals and strategies we created kind of these guiding principles to help inform some of the specific strategies we have in there.

2696
03:48:32,280 --> 03:48:43,040
So our division statement that we worked on with the Advisory Committee is Windsors committed to building a thriving inclusive community that blends its rich history with sustainable growth.

2697
03:48:43,040 --> 03:48:48,380
is a vibrant town that supports local businesses, celebrates arts and culture, and

2698
03:48:48,380 --> 03:48:50,100
fosters a strong sense of community.

2699
03:48:51,100 --> 03:48:55,320
By preserving historic charm and bouncing economic growth with good environmental stewardship,

2700
03:48:56,160 --> 03:49:01,800
Windsor will remain a welcoming place where residents of all ages can live, work, and thrive.

2701
03:49:04,270 --> 03:49:08,950
And so from that vision statement, we kind of developed these guiding principles to help inform

2702
03:49:08,950 --> 03:49:12,230
some of the specific goals and strategies that we have.

2703
03:49:12,230 --> 03:49:16,690
I won't go through each principle in detail tonight, but I think it's ported to understand

2704
03:49:16,690 --> 03:49:20,270
that each one of these is supported by additional narrative in intent.

2705
03:49:21,330 --> 03:49:25,650
They're not meant to be broader abstract statements, but rather kind of a framework that

2706
03:49:25,650 --> 03:49:29,430
helps us to connect to specific actions or to a larger community value.

2707
03:49:30,550 --> 03:49:35,670
So as an example, the mobility and infrastructure guiding principle focuses on connecting people

2708
03:49:35,670 --> 03:49:43,170
and places. Under that principle, the plan discusses expanding sidewalks, bike paths, trails

2709
03:49:43,170 --> 03:49:48,550
and public transit in order to improve safety, accessibility and regional connectivity.

2710
03:49:49,610 --> 03:49:53,390
So, beyond each one of these little guiding principles, there's a bit more text within

2711
03:49:53,390 --> 03:49:57,930
the document that kind of helps inform a bit more. It's not just this one little abstract,

2712
03:49:58,030 --> 03:49:59,970
one word statement or one sentence statement.

2713
03:50:01,010 --> 03:50:07,890
Each guiding principle functions in this way, helping translate the broader values into actionable goals and strategies.

2714
03:50:11,890 --> 03:50:18,310
And so then lastly, I just want to kind of give a chapter sample, nearly every chapter in the play and follows a similar structure.

2715
03:50:19,310 --> 03:50:30,250
And using housing in as a example, the chapter begins with the baseline conditions, which includes the housing type, housing stock, affordability, kind of the baseline zoning.

2716
03:50:31,050 --> 03:50:36,270
And then outlines initiatives that are already underway, such as the Affordable Housing Plan,

2717
03:50:36,370 --> 03:50:42,790
which the Commission adopted in 2022, accessory dwelling units, and the role of Windsor Housing Authority.

2718
03:50:44,050 --> 03:50:48,150
From there, it identifies kind of key issues and trends within the community.

2719
03:50:48,250 --> 03:50:53,290
These are things that could have come up to the survey, could have come up through good planning practices,

2720
03:50:54,350 --> 03:50:59,630
things that we see in the planning community that are being talked about right now.

2721
03:51:05,840 --> 03:51:11,440
And then from there, and one of my favorite parts about the document is what we've heard for the community.

2722
03:51:12,060 --> 03:51:18,100
So pulling out specific quotes that we're receiving survey or sort of some of our public engagement events.

2723
03:51:19,200 --> 03:51:21,540
And this kind of summarizes what we've heard.

2724
03:51:22,140 --> 03:51:33,580
And then it follows that with the goals and strategies so that you could take the two documents side by side and see how what we heard connects to some of the goals and strategies in there.

2725
03:51:37,680 --> 03:51:40,060
So that's really all I have for presentation.

2726
03:51:40,420 --> 03:51:43,800
I would like to take a moment to thank Rory and FHI,

2727
03:51:43,920 --> 03:51:48,880
I may entertain Christian, Nicole, I'm sure there's few names

2728
03:51:48,880 --> 03:51:51,120
up for getting this well, but I appreciate all the work

2729
03:51:51,120 --> 03:51:54,240
that your team did over this past year and a half, really.

2730
03:51:55,160 --> 03:51:58,160
And you're support with this document and our various meetings

2731
03:51:58,160 --> 03:51:58,880
that we've attended.

2732
03:51:59,440 --> 03:52:03,080
I also like to give a huge thank you to the P.O.C.B. Advisory Committee,

2733
03:52:03,760 --> 03:52:06,920
the Planning and Zoning Commission, and Town Council as well.

2734
03:52:06,920 --> 03:52:13,920
And then also, a big thank you to everyone who participated in surveys, workshops, or even just stopped at the booth to chat with us.

2735
03:52:14,500 --> 03:52:16,520
And then also to Windsor staff and their leadership.

2736
03:52:17,420 --> 03:52:22,360
So we'd be happy to take any questions, or if you'd like to delve in any specifics, we can do so at this time,

2737
03:52:22,480 --> 03:52:26,620
but that's really all I have for presentation, or we can go into the public hearing.

2738
03:52:31,080 --> 03:52:31,380
Any questions?

2739
03:52:35,370 --> 03:52:40,950
Maybe you could explain what the next steps are of this plans adopted tonight.

2740
03:52:46,160 --> 03:52:48,580
Next steps, that's a good question.

2741
03:52:48,800 --> 03:52:51,320
So I mean, there's kind of our statutory requirements

2742
03:52:51,320 --> 03:52:54,420
and that we have to publish and notice that the POCDs

2743
03:52:54,420 --> 03:52:58,460
have been adopted and then there's a 15 day appeal

2744
03:52:58,460 --> 03:53:00,640
period beyond that.

2745
03:53:01,300 --> 03:53:03,940
Aside from that, you know, we've met every kind of statutory

2746
03:53:03,940 --> 03:53:06,740
requirement in getting this to town council and Crog

2747
03:53:06,740 --> 03:53:08,080
in a timely fashion.

2748
03:53:08,640 --> 03:53:12,920
I think the big next step for us internally

2749
03:53:12,920 --> 03:53:18,680
is how do we track these goals and present these things come up, how do we present this

2750
03:53:18,680 --> 03:53:24,260
to the council or to the commission. I think figuring out a way to actively track the

2751
03:53:24,260 --> 03:53:25,780
goals is probably the biggest mix.

2752
03:53:26,320 --> 03:53:29,880
And doesn't it go to the legislature as well?

2753
03:53:30,100 --> 03:53:30,660
OPM.

2754
03:53:31,380 --> 03:53:33,940
The P.O.C.E.

2755
03:53:34,780 --> 03:53:35,420
Yes, it does.

2756
03:53:35,760 --> 03:53:38,420
Yeah, we have 60 days to send to them.

2757
03:53:40,730 --> 03:53:44,270
So it's not formally adopted until the legislature

2758
03:53:44,270 --> 03:53:48,650
is that correct or not?

2759
03:53:49,070 --> 03:53:55,370
No, it's whatever the Pocity is adopted by you all.

2760
03:53:56,190 --> 03:53:57,170
Okay, that's an option.

2761
03:53:58,750 --> 03:53:59,590
I'm just going to copy.

2762
03:54:02,250 --> 03:54:03,270
Well, I'd be thank you.

2763
03:54:03,290 --> 03:54:04,310
You guys for all your work.

2764
03:54:05,030 --> 03:54:07,530
I was on the advisory committee too, but let's face it.

2765
03:54:07,530 --> 03:54:08,490
You guys did all the work.

2766
03:54:09,130 --> 03:54:10,710
So you did a tremendous job.

2767
03:54:10,950 --> 03:54:12,130
I thank you very much.

2768
03:54:13,410 --> 03:54:20,210
I can jump into it and say that overall, I think that the PLCD advisory company did a great job of updating.

2769
03:54:20,790 --> 03:54:27,210
I agree with most of the modifications, so when we get into the different shows, I'll explain what I mean differently.

2770
03:54:28,050 --> 03:54:31,650
But I thank everybody, and I thank you for taking over again tonight.

2771
03:54:34,100 --> 03:54:34,920
Thank you, Madam Chair.

2772
03:54:39,450 --> 03:54:40,570
Should we jump into the public hearing?

2773
03:54:45,720 --> 03:54:50,020
So if anyone from the public would like to address my own

2774
03:54:50,020 --> 03:54:54,180
conservation development, any questions, what how do you please come up

2775
03:54:54,180 --> 03:54:55,780
to state your name and address.

2776
03:55:03,090 --> 03:55:08,170
And we'd like to speak. Is no one online? No, nobody online? No.

2777
03:55:11,620 --> 03:55:11,880
Sir.

2778
03:55:14,220 --> 03:55:20,000
I'm bomb is theirs, I've been on civilian. This is great that we're doing this for the year 2035.

2779
03:55:21,700 --> 03:55:31,460
I don't know the specifics if it concerns the middle of a corridor, and we are currently already planning for the budget year 2027.

2780
03:55:31,460 --> 03:55:38,020
And we want to do six erosion remediation sites on the former

2781
03:55:38,020 --> 03:55:39,540
Millbrook, of course.

2782
03:55:42,660 --> 03:55:47,640
And there's also budgeting for two bridge replacements there.

2783
03:55:47,820 --> 03:55:51,340
Now, it's already going out the bid to replace bridges along Deckerbrook,

2784
03:55:52,120 --> 03:55:55,080
and Walls Park in those areas.

2785
03:55:55,700 --> 03:56:00,000
But the bridges plan for Millbrook, the public, you know,

2786
03:56:00,000 --> 03:56:08,180
Of course, I haven't gone out the bid yet, and there is this remediation of the sites for erosion control along the stream bank.

2787
03:56:09,760 --> 03:56:15,000
And Mr. Choke, you know, our account engineer is spearheading that.

2788
03:56:16,100 --> 03:56:20,920
I propose, and you know, maybe you can be added in as a separate line item.

2789
03:56:21,300 --> 03:56:24,380
It's not going to go in as part of the environmental remediation plan.

2790
03:56:24,380 --> 03:56:37,400
And maybe it's going to wait to 2040, but we've got those small dams relating to the former pump house for the golf course that impede the natural flow of milkbrook.

2791
03:56:38,020 --> 03:56:46,300
Now let's think about milkbrook. Milkbrook is the only stream downstream of the rainbow dam.

2792
03:56:46,300 --> 03:56:54,180
that flows into the fronken river. Here we are, we're Windsor, first down, and the first

2793
03:56:54,180 --> 03:56:59,500
stream into the fronken, which is why Windsor gas settled.

2794
03:57:03,060 --> 03:57:06,360
So I'd like to somehow get the

2795
03:57:06,360 --> 03:57:12,040
removal of those small dams near the old pump house, what used to serve the golf course,

2796
03:57:12,040 --> 03:57:20,300
in the Windsor Public Area now, to be remediated, and to be included in the 2027 budget plan.

2797
03:57:21,860 --> 03:57:25,740
And, you know, if has weight to 2040, let's do it.

2798
03:57:25,980 --> 03:57:27,820
And it shouldn't cost that much either.

2799
03:57:28,620 --> 03:57:34,120
The whole thing is like $7800,000 budget for the remediation sites.

2800
03:57:34,120 --> 03:57:37,040
And that's including the markup for contingencies.

2801
03:57:37,040 --> 03:57:53,720
And if we look at the economics, there's like 70,000 per area that's going to get the control for the erosion of one millbrook in the Gulf Coast area.

2802
03:57:54,920 --> 03:57:59,500
So to remove the dam is probably going to be only the same amount of cost.

2803
03:57:59,500 --> 03:58:13,480
All the vehicles are going to be bringing the equipment down, bringing the rip wrap and the natural plantings to restore the parts of the millbroke stream that they want to remediate to stop the erosion.

2804
03:58:14,460 --> 03:58:20,080
And on the way back out, they can bring the dam the particles that have been removed.

2805
03:58:20,080 --> 03:58:25,040
And they're going to have all the engineering skills.

2806
03:58:25,340 --> 03:58:27,900
And they're going to have the way to make the coffer dams.

2807
03:58:28,060 --> 03:58:29,820
They're going to manually place sandbags.

2808
03:58:31,000 --> 03:58:33,920
And with the rubber tarp, you're going to cut the broken half.

2809
03:58:34,200 --> 03:58:37,900
They're going to do the work to repair where they need to control the erosion.

2810
03:58:39,380 --> 03:58:40,820
All hand placed.

2811
03:58:41,580 --> 03:58:43,400
It's right there in Bobbrook.

2812
03:58:43,700 --> 03:58:44,820
So add that to the plan.

2813
03:58:44,940 --> 03:58:49,020
Whether it's 2035, whether it's 2040, whether it's for 2027.

2814
03:58:49,020 --> 03:58:51,020
Thank you.

2815
03:58:52,360 --> 03:58:53,640
Thank you.

2816
03:58:54,160 --> 03:58:54,940
Anyone else?

2817
03:59:03,160 --> 03:59:03,220
All right.

2818
03:59:03,420 --> 03:59:04,200
Yes, we have a letter.

2819
03:59:05,760 --> 03:59:07,760
This is an email from Owen Deutsch.

2820
03:59:09,300 --> 03:59:13,080
It was dated November 1.

2821
03:59:14,320 --> 03:59:14,580
Were those?

2822
03:59:14,580 --> 03:59:15,940
Were those for the council meeting?

2823
03:59:18,400 --> 03:59:19,200
It's the one to ask.

2824
03:59:19,460 --> 03:59:21,840
Connie, Mr. Stewart, this one came in after the council meeting.

2825
03:59:23,620 --> 03:59:23,840
Okay.

2826
03:59:23,840 --> 03:59:32,980
goal 7, mobility, and infrastructure, strategy A, I'd like to request an additional I or

2827
03:59:32,980 --> 03:59:39,660
three or a new item that's new sidewalks we provided as feasible when road improvements

2828
03:59:39,660 --> 03:59:45,500
are undertaken or new sub-developments or large-scale developments are undertaken.

2829
03:59:55,150 --> 03:59:57,470
I believe that's also part of our point right now.

2830
04:00:01,360 --> 04:00:06,240
I go ahead and thought it was to, or at least in, similar building regulations.

2831
04:00:07,120 --> 04:00:07,740
Yeah, that's better.

2832
04:00:08,560 --> 04:00:15,800
Yeah, it's baked into our zoning regulations that any new developments are required to put side walls and long-foot front inches of any town road.

2833
04:00:16,680 --> 04:00:25,820
And then generally when we're doing public improvements or, you know, we're thinking of Baker Hollow that they recently connected, they put inside boxes that well.

2834
04:00:25,820 --> 04:00:26,100
So,

2835
04:00:35,560 --> 04:00:36,280
no one else,

2836
04:00:40,940 --> 04:00:41,460
going twice.

2837
04:00:43,900 --> 04:00:44,840
Is this the ceiling here in the nag?

2838
04:00:46,520 --> 04:00:55,140
Just to comment on Mr. Miser as a comment, the POCD doesn't get in the specifics of a construction

2839
04:00:55,140 --> 04:00:55,780
project.

2840
04:00:55,920 --> 04:01:00,820
I mean, I think some of the things that you were pointing out there could be captured under

2841
04:01:00,820 --> 04:01:08,980
a couple of different strategies for the open space natural resources, specifically fund and

2842
04:01:08,980 --> 04:01:11,340
the field, priority drainage, and covert upgrades,

2843
04:01:11,640 --> 04:01:13,780
monitor sensor areas, and force appeals.

2844
04:01:14,700 --> 04:01:18,000
Unfortunately, the commission doesn't have any authority

2845
04:01:18,000 --> 04:01:21,080
to really get involved with an act of construction

2846
04:01:21,080 --> 04:01:22,900
project this time.

2847
04:01:23,140 --> 04:01:26,360
I encourage you to continue communications with the town

2848
04:01:26,360 --> 04:01:31,300
engineer and town council, but I think we've captured it

2849
04:01:31,300 --> 04:01:33,940
in a broad sense to where we could make those improvements

2850
04:01:33,940 --> 04:01:36,000
and make a case in argument for those improvements,

2851
04:01:36,000 --> 04:01:40,360
but it doesn't get into the specifics of that, but thank you for your comments.

2852
04:01:41,460 --> 04:01:43,780
It would have to go into the CIP, wouldn't it?

2853
04:01:43,940 --> 04:01:46,900
Right. That's what I was about to say, too.

2854
04:01:47,500 --> 04:01:49,300
You know, CIP that's capital improvement plan.

2855
04:01:49,460 --> 04:01:51,140
It's a six year look out of projects.

2856
04:01:51,580 --> 04:01:52,880
The council wants to spend money on it.

2857
04:01:53,300 --> 04:01:53,860
Wait, I'm accordingly.

2858
04:02:02,220 --> 04:02:03,620
We have a letter from CROG.

2859
04:02:04,580 --> 04:02:06,100
Data February 20, 2020.

2860
04:02:07,360 --> 04:02:11,420
Six report update to PLCD 2025-3,

2861
04:02:11,420 --> 04:02:17,420
3, a comprehensive update to the Municipal POCD commissioners.

2862
04:02:18,300 --> 04:02:20,940
We see the acknowledged of the above mentioned referral.

2863
04:02:21,540 --> 04:02:24,640
Notice of this proposal was transmitted to the regional planning

2864
04:02:24,640 --> 04:02:27,700
and development division of the capital region,

2865
04:02:27,700 --> 04:02:30,500
the capital region council of governments under the

2866
04:02:30,500 --> 04:02:34,500
Vision of Section 8-3B, or the Connecticut General statute

2867
04:02:34,500 --> 04:02:35,180
that's amended.

2868
04:02:36,000 --> 04:02:38,140
The staff of the regional planning commission of the

2869
04:02:38,140 --> 04:02:48,220
capital region council governments has reviewed this zoning referral and finds no conflict with regional plans or policies or the concerns of neighboring towns.

2870
04:02:48,680 --> 04:03:00,180
Staff commend municipality for the number of relevant updates within the plan of conservation and development that align with the regional plan of conservation and development.

2871
04:03:00,900 --> 04:03:07,740
One great example of alignment is the strategy to encourage mixed use and innovative housing models directly.

2872
04:03:07,740 --> 04:03:13,480
aligns with the regional goal to diversify the region's housing stock.

2873
04:03:14,080 --> 04:03:20,960
The local plans update further aligns with the region regional plan in improving bicycle

2874
04:03:20,960 --> 04:03:27,300
and pedestrian safety through the streetscape improvements, prioritizing in-field development

2875
04:03:27,300 --> 04:03:37,720
to better take advantage of underutilized spaces that are already developed and pursuing

2876
04:03:37,720 --> 04:03:40,320
utilized parking has in the region.

2877
04:03:40,880 --> 04:03:48,340
This plan also aligns with the regional natural hazard mitigation plan and HMP.

2878
04:03:48,760 --> 04:03:55,960
As actions outlined in the update directly, joint to partying with CROG to continue

2879
04:03:55,960 --> 04:03:58,620
efforts related to the NHMP.

2880
04:03:59,300 --> 04:04:05,960
This plan does an incredible job at balancing the natural growth when their experiences

2881
04:04:05,960 --> 04:04:09,500
this while protecting and preserving existing natural resources.

2882
04:04:10,420 --> 04:04:15,960
One recommendation of staff would be to review some of the highlighted density residential

2883
04:04:15,960 --> 04:04:23,600
zones and examine the potential, potential to allow duplexes and even triplexes of course

2884
04:04:23,600 --> 04:04:29,960
with appropriate design guidelines to preserve the existing identity of those zones.

2885
04:04:29,960 --> 04:04:37,180
developments such as dueplexes often seamlessly blended into the streetscape of a majority single

2886
04:04:37,180 --> 04:04:42,480
family neighborhoods with well written design standards in place and offer no threat

2887
04:04:42,480 --> 04:04:48,500
to affordable options for individuals looking to live in a more exclusively residential

2888
04:04:48,500 --> 04:04:49,480
zones.

2889
04:04:49,500 --> 04:04:55,820
Staff applause the municipality in its extensive efforts to update the Windsor Plan of Conservation

2890
04:04:55,820 --> 04:04:56,600
and development.

2891
04:04:57,180 --> 04:04:59,640
Crab looks forward to working with the municipality.

2892
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:09,480
To accomplish the actions outlined across both the local and the regional plan, public hearing has been scheduled for February 24, 2026.

2893
04:05:10,560 --> 04:05:20,620
And in accordance with our procedure, this letter constitutes final crowd action on this referral and question should be referred to Jacob Nolton and this was distributed to the planners.

2894
04:05:20,620 --> 04:05:25,780
in Windsor, Locksy, Scramby, East Windsor, Bloomfield, Hartford, and South Windsor.

2895
04:05:26,040 --> 04:05:30,280
And it's signed Jennifer Bartis early, Chairman of the Regional Planning Commission.

2896
04:05:30,980 --> 04:05:35,440
William Rice, Vice Chairman, Regional Planning Commission, and Jay Kepnoughton.

2897
04:05:35,440 --> 04:05:36,720
Community Development Plan.

2898
04:05:38,320 --> 04:05:38,870
Thank you.

2899
04:05:44,480 --> 04:05:45,100
I'm closing public hearing.

2900
04:05:46,720 --> 04:05:48,020
And, you have a motion?

2901
04:05:48,560 --> 04:05:50,000
I moved that B.

2902
04:05:50,660 --> 04:05:51,820
Madam, excuse me, I'm sorry.

2903
04:05:51,820 --> 04:05:56,680
Madam Chair, you indicated that there were some things that's right. You had some comments.

2904
04:05:58,460 --> 04:06:06,580
I was just referring to the French chief that you presented with the changes.

2905
04:06:07,380 --> 04:06:08,980
I think those are all good.

2906
04:06:09,480 --> 04:06:12,880
And the only thing I'm concerned about is when we're going to do fluxes,

2907
04:06:12,880 --> 04:06:16,000
the traffic flexors or wherever is that parking.

2908
04:06:16,920 --> 04:06:23,480
Because I'm noticing in town now that we have a number of homes

2909
04:06:23,480 --> 04:06:26,080
that they're parking on the front lawn.

2910
04:06:26,360 --> 04:06:30,060
In fact, in one street, they filed the front lawn

2911
04:06:30,060 --> 04:06:33,880
so the sixth vehicle could park on that.

2912
04:06:34,360 --> 04:06:36,140
If we're going to be going into that, we're

2913
04:06:36,140 --> 04:06:37,940
going to have to make sure that our regulations

2914
04:06:38,360 --> 04:06:41,800
like there has to be parking enough parking.

2915
04:06:43,460 --> 04:06:45,440
That's one of the big things that I was noticing.

2916
04:06:47,960 --> 04:06:49,940
Yes, ma'am, do we know that? Thank you.

2917
04:06:54,320 --> 04:06:55,360
You may be awesome either.

2918
04:06:56,560 --> 04:06:59,940
No, because I think all of the changes that were on there, I don't see.

2919
04:07:00,100 --> 04:07:04,700
I think everything you've taken out certain little words to make sense.

2920
04:07:05,100 --> 04:07:07,660
And you've added, you know, left in what I think should be left.

2921
04:07:07,800 --> 04:07:09,080
And I think you did a great job.

2922
04:07:12,470 --> 04:07:16,470
Okay, let's just see you in the last one.

2923
04:07:17,550 --> 04:07:18,430
Now, thank you.

2924
04:07:18,530 --> 04:07:19,290
Thank you, Rory.

2925
04:07:19,790 --> 04:07:20,150
Thank you.

2926
04:07:20,330 --> 04:07:21,190
Everybody here tonight.

2927
04:07:21,550 --> 04:07:21,610
Thank you.

2928
04:07:22,690 --> 04:07:24,030
Thank you.

2929
04:07:24,190 --> 04:07:38,450
I moved that the 2025 to 2035 proposed plan of conservation and development be adopted by this commission.

2930
04:07:38,450 --> 04:07:41,650
Second motion in a second on favorite

2931
04:07:41,650 --> 04:07:42,890
Hi

2932
04:07:42,890 --> 04:07:43,390
Hi

2933
04:07:43,390 --> 04:07:44,630
Close to nine

2934
04:07:44,630 --> 04:07:46,450
She passes five out

2935
04:07:47,170 --> 04:07:48,590
Move to adjourn

2936
04:07:48,590 --> 04:07:50,030
Second

2937
04:07:50,030 --> 04:07:52,770
Yeah, we don't

2938
04:07:52,770 --> 04:07:54,290
That was completed, so yes

2939
04:07:54,290 --> 04:07:54,910
I'm sure

2940
04:07:54,910 --> 04:07:55,430
Second

2941
04:07:56,290 --> 04:07:57,050
Okay

2942
04:07:57,050 --> 04:07:58,210
Second

2943
04:07:58,210 --> 04:07:59,910
Everyone second

2944
04:07:59,910 --> 04:08:00,870
Everyone second

2945
04:08:00,870 --> 04:08:01,030
Yeah

2946
04:08:02,250 --> 04:08:03,690
Okay, I'll favor

2947
04:08:03,690 --> 04:08:04,250
Hi

2948
04:08:04,250 --> 04:08:05,350
Close

2949
04:08:05,350 --> 04:08:07,710
We should drive everybody.

2950
04:08:08,610 --> 04:08:08,810
Good night.

2951
04:08:09,070 --> 04:08:09,470
Class 50.

2952
04:08:10,170 --> 04:08:11,350
Good night.

2953
04:08:11,430 --> 04:08:11,870
Good night.

2954
04:09:03,690 --> 04:09:04,350
Out safety.

2955
04:09:05,130 --> 04:09:06,370
Safety at school.

2956
04:09:09,450 --> 04:09:10,970
You know what safety means.

2957
04:09:12,990 --> 04:09:14,270
With many boys and girls.

2958
04:09:15,820 --> 04:09:18,820
Most of them will remember their safety rule.

2959
04:09:20,660 --> 04:09:23,100
You will remember how to be safe at the drinking fountain.

2960
04:09:27,210 --> 04:09:28,910
They will remember how to play safely.

2961
04:09:29,590 --> 04:09:31,470
So everyone can have a good time.

2962
04:09:34,400 --> 04:09:36,000
There are safety rules too.

2963
04:09:39,660 --> 04:09:40,820
Safety and Curtis.

2964
04:09:40,820 --> 04:09:50,940
Always, our busy places. Without safety rule, and these girls know how to play safely, soon it will be your turn to talk about the at-school.

2965
04:09:54,340 --> 04:09:58,380
Let's visit a classroom, which may be very much like your own.

2966
04:10:04,080 --> 04:10:11,700
These boys and girls are enjoying a story together. The teacher is helping them learn how to read better,

2967
04:10:16,670 --> 04:10:18,690
now it is time for them to have their milk.

2968
04:10:19,830 --> 04:10:30,370
Whose turn is it to be the milk monitor? It's Bill and Jack's turn. They have been chosen to go to the cafeteria and bring the milk back.

2969
04:10:39,070 --> 04:10:44,130
They remember an important safety rule about walking in the halls.

2970
04:10:47,720 --> 04:10:49,640
The milk is ready for them to pick up.

2971
04:10:55,180 --> 04:10:58,120
They know how to carry the trays of milk carefully,

2972
04:11:04,550 --> 04:11:06,790
when others forget the safety rules.

2973
04:11:08,170 --> 04:11:12,210
What would you do to keep this from happening in your school?

2974
04:11:23,590 --> 04:11:25,030
It is recess time.

2975
04:11:25,990 --> 04:11:28,850
Lucille and her friends are having fun jumping rope.

2976
04:11:30,130 --> 04:11:32,010
They know that when they take turns,

2977
04:11:32,010 --> 04:11:34,510
Everyone has a good time.

2978
04:11:42,280 --> 04:11:45,460
The boys know how important it is to take turns too.

2979
04:11:51,680 --> 04:11:54,440
It's shot. Now whose turn is it?

2980
04:12:00,080 --> 04:12:00,460
Unmiss.

2981
04:12:05,730 --> 04:12:07,250
Now no one can play.

2982
04:12:07,810 --> 04:12:11,950
What rules of safety and courtesy would you use?

2983
04:12:24,140 --> 04:12:27,180
Oasis are very special places to practice safety.

2984
04:12:27,520 --> 04:12:30,360
These boys and girls have good safety habits.

2985
04:12:39,320 --> 04:12:42,660
always safety begins in the classroom.

2986
04:12:59,170 --> 04:13:00,190
Now watch carefully.

2987
04:13:04,450 --> 04:13:07,030
When we forget about safety and courtesy,

2988
04:13:19,660 --> 04:13:23,200
a warm day, a cool drink of water tastes good.

2989
04:13:26,620 --> 04:13:28,200
Let's stop at the drinking fountain.

2990
04:13:30,340 --> 04:13:31,540
When we take turns,

2991
04:13:32,180 --> 04:13:34,020
everyone gets a drink faster.

2992
04:13:35,220 --> 04:13:37,440
But when we forget to take turns,

2993
04:13:37,940 --> 04:13:39,260
you know what happened.

2994
04:13:43,180 --> 04:13:45,640
What would you do to keep this from happening?

2995
04:13:57,030 --> 04:14:01,550
Benny and his friends seem to be enjoying a fine game of kickball.

2996
04:14:04,100 --> 04:14:05,180
There is plenty of excitement.

2997
04:14:06,020 --> 04:14:07,680
And each boy gets a turn.

2998
04:14:25,150 --> 04:14:26,650
Robert, what is happening here?

2999
04:14:27,230 --> 04:14:29,570
No one meant to kick the ball over the fence.

3000
04:14:30,150 --> 04:14:32,570
But there it goes, out into the street.

3001
04:14:38,520 --> 04:14:39,840
Are they going to do now?

3002
04:14:44,120 --> 04:14:45,140
What would you do?

3003
04:14:57,070 --> 04:14:58,790
Lunchtime is a time to eat.

3004
04:15:00,300 --> 04:15:02,820
And a time to talk with friends,

3005
04:15:10,840 --> 04:15:20,340
Fred hurried through his lunch today, Mary needs more time. Fred usually cooperates with his friends, but today he isn't thinking.

3006
04:15:23,900 --> 04:15:28,280
What would you tell Fred, to remind him of safety and courtesy?

3007
04:15:40,520 --> 04:15:44,020
The children at this school know just where they are supposed to play.

3008
04:15:45,880 --> 04:15:48,940
Each group has its own play area.

3009
04:15:54,900 --> 04:15:55,840
Some groups are large,

3010
04:16:02,240 --> 04:16:03,880
and some groups are small.

3011
04:16:17,200 --> 04:16:19,540
Not all the leader may be a good game too.

3012
04:16:20,040 --> 04:16:23,420
Except when the leader forgets about safety and courtesy.

3013
04:16:29,840 --> 04:16:33,340
Now, one group has spoiled the fun of the other group.

3014
04:16:34,620 --> 04:16:36,220
Why do you think this happened?

3015
04:16:50,250 --> 04:16:53,770
Boys and girls know how to walk up and down stairs safely.

3016
04:16:58,650 --> 04:17:01,210
Can you tell what safety rules they are following?

3017
04:17:01,210 --> 04:17:02,070
Some

3018
04:17:14,710 --> 04:17:17,790
people forget the rules, you can see what happened.

3019
04:17:20,100 --> 04:17:23,920
What are some good ideas for stairway safety?

3020
04:18:04,590 --> 04:18:05,930
Weeds to me, America.

3021
04:18:06,470 --> 04:18:09,730
The blood sweat and tears and passion, respect to what they do.

3022
04:18:09,850 --> 04:18:10,490
I love that.

3023
04:18:11,050 --> 04:18:14,010
I know the men and women that build those buses.

3024
04:18:14,770 --> 04:18:16,930
I've seen the materials that go into that bus.

3025
04:18:17,010 --> 04:18:19,910
I know the care, everyone takes building that bus.

3026
04:18:23,520 --> 04:18:25,240
The L school must make a difference.

3027
04:18:25,340 --> 04:18:27,580
It makes a difference for kids, it makes a difference.

3028
04:18:27,860 --> 04:18:30,840
Parents, it makes a difference for the average six.

3029
04:18:34,700 --> 04:18:36,440
There's two or three times a year.

3030
04:18:36,820 --> 04:18:40,320
I'll see that my coworkers the same thing.

3031
04:18:41,180 --> 04:18:42,420
They're the oldest person there.

3032
04:18:42,480 --> 04:18:44,120
I see this person who's a child.

3033
04:18:44,640 --> 04:18:47,140
Everybody else on that bus belongs to someone.

3034
04:18:47,420 --> 04:18:48,080
Someone's key.

3035
04:18:48,920 --> 04:18:49,900
I love kids.

3036
04:18:52,520 --> 04:18:54,440
Obviously, when it comes to school buses,

3037
04:18:54,440 --> 04:18:56,940
You have to constantly think about the future.

3038
04:18:57,520 --> 04:19:00,440
The future is actually writing on this.

3039
04:19:06,410 --> 04:19:10,130
We find this public transportation in the world.

3040
04:19:14,620 --> 04:19:18,460
If you've ever seen a streetcar names as our Marlon Brando and Vivian Lee,

3041
04:19:18,480 --> 04:19:19,620
you've seen a Thomas Pride.

3042
04:19:20,300 --> 04:19:22,280
The streetcar name as our was a Thomas streetcar name.

3043
04:19:22,680 --> 04:19:24,920
We started out building street cars in 1916.

3044
04:19:25,180 --> 04:19:27,920
We continued to build street cars until the Great Pression hit.

3045
04:19:28,020 --> 04:19:31,160
After the Great Depression hit street cars were no longer being purchased.

3046
04:19:31,160 --> 04:19:34,000
So, in 1936, we became a school bus manager.

3047
04:19:35,780 --> 04:19:38,400
In 1998, we were acquired by Daumler,

3048
04:19:38,620 --> 04:19:39,780
H.E., Daumler, H.E.,

3049
04:19:39,780 --> 04:19:41,360
the parent company of Mercedes-Benz.

3050
04:19:42,000 --> 04:19:45,240
Daumler is the world's largest manufacturer of commercial vehicles.

3051
04:19:45,580 --> 04:19:47,700
That allows us to tap into some resources

3052
04:19:47,700 --> 04:19:51,700
that no other school bus manufacturer can tap into it.

3053
04:19:54,390 --> 04:19:57,030
When you think about Thomas Bill Buses and Hotborne,

3054
04:19:57,070 --> 04:19:58,090
we really have two campuses.

3055
04:19:58,270 --> 04:19:59,990
We have a North Campus, and we have a...

3056
04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:25,140
The North Campus is where all the history took place. It encompasses about three quarters of a mile, from one end of the building to the other, where we're actually fabricating parts that we use on all of our product lines, as well as manufacturing the minitor or the EFX and the HDS. If you get in a car and you go approximately two and a half miles, that's where we're actually building the safety-line or C2 product. That is the new plan.

3057
04:20:30,130 --> 04:20:34,330
It was a nexus of one hundred million dollar investment to build a

3058
04:20:34,330 --> 04:20:40,090
brand new product. The first integrated school was that it ever been introduced to the market

3059
04:20:40,090 --> 04:20:45,950
with a chassis and the body specifically designed for each other to provide significant

3060
04:20:45,950 --> 04:20:53,450
features and benefits that no other company could without the resources of time were we would never

3061
04:20:53,450 --> 04:20:54,850
have been able to do.

3062
04:21:11,950 --> 04:21:17,870
We're just now starting into our second century and we're very very excited

3063
04:21:17,870 --> 04:21:19,170
about where the company is holding.

3064
04:21:25,540 --> 04:21:28,260
You start with a truck that rolls into our desert coil.

3065
04:21:28,260 --> 04:21:30,340
Young line, the cool start, punching and pressing.

3066
04:21:30,620 --> 04:21:31,600
And we ship it to the assembly line.

3067
04:21:31,600 --> 04:21:32,620
We put it on there.

3068
04:21:32,800 --> 04:21:35,600
We make it installed right behind us.

3069
04:21:35,860 --> 04:21:36,940
We can't repeat this.

3070
04:21:37,300 --> 04:21:39,720
You can't pick up a bus manufacturing plant

3071
04:21:39,720 --> 04:21:41,460
and move it and drop it anywhere

3072
04:21:41,460 --> 04:21:42,960
and have it repeat it all.

3073
04:21:43,160 --> 04:21:46,520
We have all of this technology to build a wonderful bus.

3074
04:21:46,660 --> 04:21:47,600
Blue robots.

3075
04:21:47,820 --> 04:21:48,940
We have welding robots.

3076
04:21:49,200 --> 04:21:49,820
Paint robots.

3077
04:21:49,920 --> 04:21:50,720
A lot of automation.

3078
04:21:51,040 --> 04:21:52,080
We use structural pieces.

3079
04:21:52,080 --> 04:21:57,080
We have self-piercing rivets, reinforced, high-lasters, extreme structure.

3080
04:21:57,880 --> 04:22:06,400
We build it to be very strong, very robust, with lots of structure to help protect all the children inside and anyone riding inside.

3081
04:22:07,000 --> 04:22:08,720
We transport a pretty precious cord.

3082
04:22:09,360 --> 04:22:11,640
So safety has to be our number one priority.

3083
04:22:11,800 --> 04:22:14,620
It is the foundation of everything that our company does.

3084
04:22:16,980 --> 04:22:22,980
We want to ensure that even in the standard vehicles, no matter if you've had the highest options or not,

3085
04:22:22,980 --> 04:22:25,700
The bus is safe. Your children are secure.

3086
04:22:26,660 --> 04:22:29,620
These guys that build our product, you know exactly what they've been doing.

3087
04:22:29,780 --> 04:22:33,080
They're doing it for a long time. They've got great equipment and great backing.

3088
04:22:33,280 --> 04:22:35,700
You drive this business into the ground if you picked it up.

3089
04:22:35,760 --> 04:22:36,480
I mean they're from iPod.

3090
04:22:37,200 --> 04:22:39,320
You know, if you have time, it must be all like a big puzzle.

3091
04:22:39,820 --> 04:22:42,380
But every puzzle, different size, different piece.

3092
04:22:43,280 --> 04:22:47,580
Everybody's in fourth and every piece of puzzle is just as important as the next piece.

3093
04:22:47,580 --> 04:22:54,140
to analyze the process and sustain the process allows us to build best robust everyday

3094
04:22:54,140 --> 04:22:59,540
every time and even though there are many bucks within the day, when the bus goes in my station,

3095
04:23:00,080 --> 04:23:02,280
it should devastate and know what the bus is going to do.

3096
04:23:02,500 --> 04:23:06,920
What they do is screw it over on the wells they put on, the glue they apply is part of the structure

3097
04:23:06,920 --> 04:23:09,580
that integrity the bus and how the children of the world.

3098
04:23:10,020 --> 04:23:15,960
To be able to make something from raw metal from the earth and see it roll out the line behind us,

3099
04:23:15,960 --> 04:23:21,520
that's really cool. We're very proud of what we do, but it's the people that make all the

3100
04:23:21,520 --> 04:23:26,980
difference here. They know what they're doing. They're building school buses that transport

3101
04:23:26,980 --> 04:23:32,060
children to in front school every day. And they're passionate about building safe buses,

3102
04:23:32,460 --> 04:23:37,440
about building reliable buses, and about building durable buses. They really care about what they do.

3103
04:23:43,780 --> 04:23:50,660
No, I don't. I love where I do. I love my job. I'll take pride in my work. I'll take pride in my work.

3104
04:23:50,660 --> 04:23:53,720
I'll take my heart and put it in my work.

3105
04:23:54,140 --> 04:23:57,440
We have people that have worked here for 40 years.

3106
04:23:57,480 --> 04:23:59,520
We have such high seniority here,

3107
04:23:59,520 --> 04:24:05,300
and I have to feel that that is because people are so satisfied with what they do.

3108
04:24:07,080 --> 04:24:08,540
And I'll start with my dad.

3109
04:24:09,100 --> 04:24:10,580
He's been here ever since I was little.

3110
04:24:10,640 --> 04:24:12,860
This is all I've known as Thomas Boo.

3111
04:24:13,440 --> 04:24:16,220
And then my mom worked right beside me.

3112
04:24:16,620 --> 04:24:18,820
So I was like, a big old happy family.

3113
04:24:18,820 --> 04:24:19,760
I

3114
04:24:21,910 --> 04:24:27,630
love making something with a bunch of people actually reading them that's really important to the world.

3115
04:24:28,090 --> 04:24:30,950
And a safe product to get our kids to school everything.

3116
04:24:31,370 --> 04:24:33,430
I can't think of anything that's more important than that.

3117
04:24:34,410 --> 04:24:38,590
The first thing that comes to my mind when I see a time and still bust is that it's distinctive.

3118
04:24:39,490 --> 04:24:41,270
It's gorgeous, especially the C2.

3119
04:24:41,510 --> 04:24:42,830
The C2 is a beautiful bust.

3120
04:24:43,110 --> 04:24:48,390
No other bust looks like if you can see it immediately, you know what it is, as soon as you see it.

3121
04:24:48,390 --> 04:24:51,630
And then there's an awesome sense of pride that that's my bus.

3122
04:24:52,370 --> 04:24:53,290
We built that bus.

3123
04:24:58,360 --> 04:24:59,800
And I get behind the Thomas Bus.

3124
04:25:00,340 --> 04:25:10,800
And I've had whatever kind of day it is. And I look in that back glass and I see little people looking out the back waving. Then yeah, that's why I do what I do. That's why we're all here.

3125
04:25:11,860 --> 04:25:30,320
School districts are very, very pressured from a financial perspective. So they're going to want a product that's going to like 15 or 20 years. So everything we do from a design standpoint, we target durability, a product that's going to give them good service over the entire life.

3126
04:25:45,980 --> 04:25:51,620
So whether you're getting a minister, whether you're getting a sleeping honor seat fee, and

3127
04:25:51,620 --> 04:25:57,620
EFX, or an HDX, we're doing our best to make sure the looks show in our safe, the construction

3128
04:25:57,620 --> 04:26:04,000
techniques and features that we use are in circling those children in the day to sleep.

3129
04:26:05,260 --> 04:26:07,260
That guy hanging behind us, it's Bill Polatt.

3130
04:26:08,440 --> 04:26:10,460
It's a safe butt.

3131
04:26:12,540 --> 04:26:13,860
Kids deserve it.

3132
04:26:13,880 --> 04:26:15,280
It deserves you a best.

3133
04:26:17,820 --> 04:26:20,680
We absolutely like the very best the Yellow School does.

3134
04:26:20,980 --> 04:26:22,240
And we're here.

3135
04:27:04,430 --> 04:27:09,790
Seeing your center is a community focal point for residents and friends from other communities,

3136
04:27:10,470 --> 04:27:16,030
age 55 and older, and those with disabilities are encouraged to come together for services,

3137
04:27:16,490 --> 04:27:21,370
programs, classes, events and activities, which will enhance their dignity and

3138
04:27:21,370 --> 04:27:28,030
and encourage involvement because we provide such a wide range of services and activities.

3139
04:27:28,830 --> 04:27:34,710
We have been recognized by the State of Connecticut as a state focal point of senior services.

3140
04:27:35,750 --> 04:27:40,610
So sit back, relax, and take a look at many of the programs we have to offer.

3141
04:30:55,600 --> 04:30:59,560
There's no better time than now to become a member of the Windsor seniors

3142
04:31:01,830 --> 04:31:16,650
that promote mental and physical wellness, continue your friendships and make new friends, offer your wisdom and experience and celebrate the many ways in which older adults make a difference in the community or just enjoy life.

3143
04:31:16,650 --> 04:31:24,310
For more information on what the Windsor Senior Center has to offer, please visit us online at

3144
04:31:24,310 --> 04:31:28,850
town of WindsorCT.com, or we'd love to have you join us.

3145
04:31:29,310 --> 04:31:36,390
We are located at 599 Madhianic Avenue at the LP Wilson Community Center, or you can call

3146
04:31:36,390 --> 04:31:41,470
us at 860-285-1992.

3147
04:31:42,230 --> 04:31:44,290
Come to the Windsor Senior Center.

3148
04:31:44,890 --> 04:31:46,790
We're fun never gets old.

3149
04:32:02,600 --> 04:32:04,860
Ladies and gentlemen, our national anthem.

3150
04:33:53,480 --> 04:33:54,080
Late again.

3151
04:33:54,420 --> 04:33:56,760
Thought you could sneak past me or saw me?

3152
04:33:57,020 --> 04:33:57,600
No, sir.

3153
04:33:57,860 --> 04:33:58,460
That's it.

3154
04:33:58,600 --> 04:34:00,220
Do you have a note from your father?

3155
04:34:01,020 --> 04:34:01,160
Yeah.

3156
04:34:02,340 --> 04:34:02,620
Me!

3157
04:34:06,420 --> 04:34:07,620
You got me that time, kid.

3158
04:34:09,390 --> 04:34:11,530
Your father's an authentic star.

3159
04:34:56,350 --> 04:34:58,590
Exaggerating, my mother doesn't hate you, dear.

3160
04:34:59,390 --> 04:34:59,970
That's what...

3161
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:00,280
A few.

3162
04:35:01,200 --> 04:35:07,380
Well, lands, if she hated you, she wouldn't have brought to that lovely bond of scotch back from her trip to Indonesia.

3163
04:35:08,000 --> 04:35:11,080
Oh, I admit that the bottle of scotch was very nice.

3164
04:35:11,320 --> 04:35:11,940
Admit that.

3165
04:35:12,120 --> 04:35:18,940
But it's what she brought flour, stir the proof, see, AIDS, maize, fuw, fuw,

3166
04:35:25,100 --> 04:35:26,580
fuw, fuw, fuw, fuw, fuw, fuw, fuw, fuw.

3167
04:35:29,720 --> 04:35:30,640
Point their dear.

3168
04:35:36,690 --> 04:35:39,330
Hi. And welcome to you, can't do that on television.

3169
04:35:39,650 --> 04:35:42,010
Another in a long series of sour notes.

3170
04:35:42,010 --> 04:35:44,550
Unless you're absolutely tone deaf,

3171
04:35:44,750 --> 04:35:47,250
you're probably realized by now that this week's show is about music.

3172
04:35:47,950 --> 04:35:49,390
But just in case you are tone deaf,

3173
04:35:49,530 --> 04:35:51,510
I thought I would enlighten you the audience

3174
04:35:51,510 --> 04:35:54,170
by telling you that the opening music to this show

3175
04:35:54,170 --> 04:35:55,810
is actually a classical piece.

3176
04:35:56,090 --> 04:35:57,830
It's by an Italian composer named Rossini,

3177
04:35:58,230 --> 04:35:59,930
and it's called the William Tell Overture.

3178
04:36:00,410 --> 04:36:01,470
Uh-uh, I don't know.

3179
04:36:02,070 --> 04:36:05,110
They should have used Debussy's,

3180
04:36:05,110 --> 04:36:08,010
the Lat dance, Delay's, Marionette's.

3181
04:36:08,650 --> 04:36:09,450
And why is that Ross?

3182
04:36:09,550 --> 04:36:11,530
Because your kids act for it

3183
04:36:11,530 --> 04:36:12,350
It's a wooden.

3184
04:36:16,810 --> 04:36:17,770
Ready, aim.

3185
04:36:19,650 --> 04:36:20,950
Stop that, dummy.

3186
04:36:21,210 --> 04:36:22,690
But I can't remember the words.

3187
04:36:24,990 --> 04:36:25,730
Oh, that's terrible.

3188
04:36:26,130 --> 04:36:26,670
Thank you so much.

3189
04:36:26,690 --> 04:36:27,150
They made it, though.

3190
04:36:27,510 --> 04:36:29,810
Listen, maybe if we, homie, do we, too?

3191
04:36:29,870 --> 04:36:31,650
Maybe we could help you out.

3192
04:36:32,730 --> 04:36:35,570
No, no, no, no, no.

3193
04:36:36,250 --> 04:36:36,970
No, wait a minute.

3194
04:36:37,010 --> 04:36:39,350
Holy, no, no, no, no, no, no.

3195
04:36:39,590 --> 04:36:40,250
That's you.

3196
04:36:40,450 --> 04:36:41,350
But that's it.

3197
04:36:41,770 --> 04:36:41,910
What?

3198
04:36:41,910 --> 04:36:45,490
I don't know. I don't know that.

3199
04:36:46,150 --> 04:36:46,550
Ready?

3200
04:36:47,170 --> 04:36:47,570
Hey!

3201
04:36:47,570 --> 04:36:48,630
I have the record home.

3202
04:36:48,790 --> 04:36:49,870
And the words are all right.

3203
04:36:50,050 --> 04:36:50,590
Oh, what?

3204
04:36:50,590 --> 04:36:51,450
I could go get it.

3205
04:36:51,570 --> 04:36:53,370
Sure. Why don't you go home and get the record?

3206
04:36:53,790 --> 04:36:55,290
Bring back the words and sing them.

3207
04:36:55,290 --> 04:36:56,330
Oh, okay. Okay.

3208
04:36:56,470 --> 04:36:56,650
Sure.

3209
04:36:58,890 --> 04:36:59,750
It's... Wait a minute.

3210
04:37:00,050 --> 04:37:00,870
I can't. Come back.

3211
04:37:00,870 --> 04:37:02,230
I remember what the song was.

3212
04:37:02,330 --> 04:37:03,310
I remember Johnny Cash.

3213
04:37:03,970 --> 04:37:05,130
Ring out fire.

3214
04:37:30,180 --> 04:37:30,760
You're a bird.

3215
04:37:31,000 --> 04:37:32,820
You understand what does he do with this blood?

3216
04:37:33,080 --> 04:37:34,840
Well, now you know it's secret fire.

3217
04:37:36,460 --> 04:37:38,500
Dye, heard you.

3218
04:37:41,610 --> 04:37:43,870
Washington at Valley Borge.

3219
04:37:44,050 --> 04:37:45,050
Freeze in the hole.

3220
04:37:45,070 --> 04:37:46,590
I'll put up spoke, George, saying.

3221
04:37:46,830 --> 04:37:47,330
I'll be there.

3222
04:37:47,790 --> 04:37:48,670
Oh, no, no.

3223
04:37:49,070 --> 04:37:52,450
You mean what am I doing?

3224
04:37:53,170 --> 04:37:54,530
This is a ukulele.

3225
04:37:54,670 --> 04:37:56,450
I'm telling you, everybody, glad you.

3226
04:37:56,610 --> 04:37:58,670
When I was a kid, I was in the garden.

3227
04:37:59,390 --> 04:38:00,090
Get with it, man.

3228
04:38:00,210 --> 04:38:01,530
They found a little electronics.

3229
04:38:01,630 --> 04:38:02,910
Get like a hard-coller.

3230
04:38:02,970 --> 04:38:03,390
Right?

3231
04:38:03,390 --> 04:38:03,830
Yeah, right.

3232
04:38:04,430 --> 04:38:06,010
Oh, you mean like this?

3233
04:38:14,590 --> 04:38:14,910
No.

3234
04:38:16,130 --> 04:38:16,790
I don't like it.

3235
04:38:18,420 --> 04:38:19,680
Bones, you, Chloe.

3236
04:38:23,170 --> 04:38:23,810
They...

3237
04:38:23,810 --> 04:38:25,750
They need a home?

3238
04:38:26,890 --> 04:38:27,290
Attention.

3239
04:38:27,890 --> 04:38:31,390
Can anyone tell me what the three bees are?

3240
04:38:31,910 --> 04:38:32,910
Oh, oh.

3241
04:38:32,910 --> 04:38:35,830
Ronin, the boss, the beetles, and the beach boys.

3242
04:38:36,410 --> 04:38:36,450
Oh.

3243
04:38:37,070 --> 04:38:40,050
The winter, the winter, the beach, the blue oyster called,

3244
04:38:40,110 --> 04:38:40,930
and the B52.

3245
04:38:41,430 --> 04:38:42,010
Yeah.

3246
04:38:43,270 --> 04:38:44,030
Close the future.

3247
04:38:44,390 --> 04:38:46,610
Everyone knows that three bees are Beethoven,

3248
04:38:47,110 --> 04:38:47,890
Bach, and Rock.

3249
04:38:48,690 --> 04:38:49,330
Wrong?

3250
04:38:49,330 --> 04:38:55,250
You're all wrong. The three bees are the worker, the drone, and the queen.

3251
04:38:55,790 --> 04:39:00,890
This is a science class. You forgot. You kids have nothing but music on your mind.

3252
04:39:11,290 --> 04:39:16,090
Understand why you girls have to have rock music way and why you're doing your exercise.

3253
04:39:16,690 --> 04:39:19,410
I've ever tried to roll with dancing to the moonlight sonata.

3254
04:39:25,660 --> 04:39:32,040
So you see Alice there, this glass full of a scotch.

3255
04:39:32,040 --> 04:39:37,240
makes a much different sound. This one half-filled, but fun, fun.

3256
04:39:37,960 --> 04:39:42,860
Oh, hi, pal. I was just illustrating to Alistair here.

3257
04:39:43,080 --> 04:39:46,820
That glass is filled with different heights, make different notes.

3258
04:39:48,480 --> 04:39:50,980
Yes, but Lance, you could have accomplished that with one.

3259
04:39:51,560 --> 04:39:54,400
That's right. Well, but I wouldn't have been as much fun.

3260
04:39:55,400 --> 04:39:58,320
Yeah, it's going to be here, won't it? Don't encourage him.

3261
04:39:58,320 --> 04:39:59,720
Here he is for stuff like that.

3262
04:40:10,290 --> 04:40:17,150
You know, sometimes I wish I were like Beethoven. Is that so you can make beautiful music for us to play? No.

3263
04:40:18,210 --> 04:40:22,910
Beethoven was deaf. I think that commirings, sir.

3264
04:40:46,550 --> 04:40:48,560
Wake us up in the morning with a trumpet.

3265
04:40:49,080 --> 04:40:51,600
It's a plot to make music forever.

3266
04:40:52,780 --> 04:40:54,880
You know what? Fake is working.

3267
04:40:54,880 --> 04:40:56,120
I thought

3268
04:41:07,090 --> 04:41:09,090
you were such a violent person. What's up?

3269
04:41:09,690 --> 04:41:12,990
Huh? Oh, this? No, I'm not.

3270
04:41:13,190 --> 04:41:15,330
This is just the introduction to some opposite sketches.

3271
04:41:15,330 --> 04:41:17,370
You know where the opposite to real life really happens?

3272
04:41:17,850 --> 04:41:20,690
Yeah. I was just sort of playing out the fantasy and until the tape ended.

3273
04:41:27,930 --> 04:41:31,310
Oh, I was that horrible noise, Justin.

3274
04:41:31,470 --> 04:41:31,730
What?

3275
04:41:31,890 --> 04:41:34,090
Where are you practicing that violin again?

3276
04:41:34,590 --> 04:41:35,290
Just a little.

3277
04:41:35,430 --> 04:41:37,350
I want you to stop immediately. Don't play that funny.

3278
04:41:37,350 --> 04:41:42,650
Play that rock music station. Oh, the guy. Come on. Come on.

3279
04:41:43,010 --> 04:41:43,370
Wilder.

3280
04:41:44,270 --> 04:41:44,630
Wilder.

3281
04:41:45,750 --> 04:41:46,110
That's good.

3282
04:41:46,370 --> 04:41:48,310
Your mother and I should do our best.

3283
04:41:55,700 --> 04:41:57,700
Yes, you can't bring that thing in here.

3284
04:41:57,700 --> 04:41:59,240
Oh, I know it. It's not turned on.

3285
04:41:59,520 --> 04:42:02,100
Well, if you have to finish, I'm just going to say you can't bring that thing in here.

3286
04:42:02,160 --> 04:42:03,960
Unless it is turned on. I'll turn it on immediately.

3287
04:42:04,200 --> 04:42:05,080
Very loud.

3288
04:42:05,280 --> 04:42:06,960
But I came in here for some reason.

3289
04:42:06,960 --> 04:42:07,120
Why?

3290
04:42:07,260 --> 04:42:08,760
For that on? Now.

3291
04:42:11,380 --> 04:42:12,660
I'm about to

3292
04:42:18,990 --> 04:42:18,990
leave.

3293
04:42:18,990 --> 04:42:19,810
I'm about to leave.

3294
04:42:20,150 --> 04:42:21,190
I'm about to leave.

3295
04:42:21,470 --> 04:42:22,190
I'm about to leave.

3296
04:42:22,190 --> 04:42:22,550
I'm about to leave.

3297
04:42:22,550 --> 04:42:22,810
I don't care.

3298
04:42:22,970 --> 04:42:24,190
We don't want to rush things.

3299
04:42:24,330 --> 04:42:25,670
I want you to run along and take.

3300
04:42:26,150 --> 04:42:26,930
I'm about to leave.

3301
04:42:27,470 --> 04:42:29,330
We will have no more of that, Lisa.

3302
04:42:29,770 --> 04:42:31,910
Now then, if there is any more talking back, Lisa.

3303
04:42:32,250 --> 04:42:33,350
Any more talking back.

3304
04:42:33,590 --> 04:42:36,350
I'm going to tell your parents then there'll be no practicing next week.

3305
04:42:36,590 --> 04:42:39,590
Now then, go upstairs and throw your hands straight into the ceiling.

3306
04:42:40,210 --> 04:42:40,490
I'm about

3307
04:42:46,120 --> 04:42:46,920
to leave.

3308
04:42:47,260 --> 04:42:47,940
Factory Audi.

3309
04:42:55,100 --> 04:42:58,240
And what are you in detention for this time, Brody?

3310
04:42:58,240 --> 04:43:00,280
I didn't do my homework, sir.

3311
04:43:00,880 --> 04:43:02,460
Well, you've got two hours.

3312
04:43:02,660 --> 04:43:05,920
I think possibly you'd better do your homework right here in detention.

3313
04:43:06,400 --> 04:43:07,380
Yes, sir.

3314
04:43:07,780 --> 04:43:08,490
Get to it.

3315
04:43:09,400 --> 04:43:10,380
I'm going to...

3316
04:43:18,100 --> 04:43:18,800
Hold it.

3317
04:43:19,420 --> 04:43:20,580
Robert, what are you doing?

3318
04:43:21,100 --> 04:43:21,920
My homework, sir.

3319
04:43:22,260 --> 04:43:25,460
Your homework is making you that awful noise on that violin.

3320
04:43:25,800 --> 04:43:29,300
No, sir. It's practicing most of its fifth-inch-head-on-deminer

3321
04:43:29,300 --> 04:43:30,680
until I get it right.

3322
04:43:32,360 --> 04:43:33,060
Get it right.

3323
04:43:33,060 --> 04:43:38,180
Crony, if you don't mind, I think possibly you should do your homework at home.

3324
04:43:38,640 --> 04:43:39,000
Attention.

3325
04:43:41,680 --> 04:43:41,720
What?

3326
04:43:45,770 --> 04:43:48,950
Sometimes, it's so easy. I'm ashamed of myself.

3327
04:43:55,360 --> 04:43:58,640
You need to not put that cell up your neck to play it.

3328
04:43:58,760 --> 04:44:00,980
Well, then why do you put a violin up your neck?

3329
04:44:01,200 --> 04:44:01,400
Well,

3330
04:44:03,880 --> 04:44:05,080
I don't know.

3331
04:44:17,920 --> 04:44:21,600
Oh, Lisa. I'll have to serenade you.

3332
04:44:21,600 --> 04:44:22,160
And

3333
04:44:26,710 --> 04:44:29,870
if you can't do that on television, we'll be back after these messages.

3334
04:44:35,070 --> 04:44:39,190
For a feeling that I wish you had to pull the top alone side.

3335
04:44:39,450 --> 04:44:41,710
Whoa, flash, redneck flash.

3336
04:44:42,030 --> 04:44:43,370
The minute's lying in it.

3337
04:44:43,590 --> 04:44:45,410
The flash, the minute's flash.

3338
04:44:45,690 --> 04:44:48,050
Whoa, hello, flash, the game's all here.

3339
04:44:48,350 --> 04:44:49,270
The game's all wet.

3340
04:44:49,590 --> 04:44:51,790
The minute's flash, whoa, hello, flash.

3341
04:44:51,930 --> 04:44:52,650
It's the best point.

3342
04:44:52,890 --> 04:44:53,750
Get to the gas.

3343
04:44:54,910 --> 04:44:56,150
The best point.

3344
04:44:56,150 --> 04:44:59,970
Slip and splash with plastic slide and weight of a tool and surf slide.

3345
04:45:00,020 --> 04:45:01,760
New from where am I?

3346
04:46:02,560 --> 04:46:07,420
This portion of Nickelodeon is brought to you by Oreo cookies from the bisco.

3347
04:46:11,460 --> 04:46:12,140
Ready?

3348
04:46:13,240 --> 04:46:13,440
Hey!

3349
04:46:13,700 --> 04:46:14,280
Wait a minute!

3350
04:46:14,520 --> 04:46:15,040
Stop the execution!

3351
04:46:15,300 --> 04:46:15,780
What?

3352
04:46:16,220 --> 04:46:16,460
What?

3353
04:46:16,460 --> 04:46:17,840
What's your favorite tip in music?

3354
04:46:18,460 --> 04:46:18,860
Oh.

3355
04:46:19,340 --> 04:46:23,260
I would say the sound of rifles firing.

3356
04:46:23,820 --> 04:46:24,020
Ready?

3357
04:46:24,600 --> 04:46:25,580
Wait a minute!

3358
04:46:25,880 --> 04:46:28,100
You can't really hear it somewhere you're standing.

3359
04:46:28,700 --> 04:46:30,700
Can't hear it from where I'm standing.

3360
04:46:31,100 --> 04:46:31,400
Are you kidding?

3361
04:46:31,460 --> 04:46:33,740
That's a very loud firing squad.

3362
04:46:33,920 --> 04:46:36,560
I need to get the full quarter-fonic effect.

3363
04:46:36,940 --> 04:46:38,700
You have the style of the sound converges.

3364
04:46:39,040 --> 04:46:40,400
And that is right on this post.

3365
04:46:40,400 --> 04:46:41,260
Really?

3366
04:46:41,720 --> 04:46:42,240
Well, you bet.

3367
04:46:42,420 --> 04:46:43,900
It's a once and a way time experience.

3368
04:46:44,240 --> 04:46:46,340
Hey, I got to hear this.

3369
04:46:46,420 --> 04:46:48,180
Could we change places?

3370
04:46:49,260 --> 04:46:50,040
Why not?

3371
04:46:50,220 --> 04:46:50,520
Oh, you know.

3372
04:46:50,560 --> 04:46:50,960
Come on.

3373
04:46:51,020 --> 04:46:51,340
Please.

3374
04:46:52,420 --> 04:46:53,640
Okay, but just this one.

3375
04:46:53,860 --> 04:46:54,040
Okay.

3376
04:46:54,280 --> 04:46:54,560
That's all.

3377
04:46:55,900 --> 04:46:57,220
I'll be here like this.

3378
04:46:57,580 --> 04:46:58,000
Yeah, okay.

3379
04:46:58,240 --> 04:46:58,920
Is that okay?

3380
04:46:59,260 --> 04:46:59,880
Damn it.

3381
04:47:01,100 --> 04:47:01,460
Let me go.

3382
04:47:01,880 --> 04:47:02,140
Ready.

3383
04:47:03,040 --> 04:47:03,480
Hey.

3384
04:47:13,940 --> 04:47:14,380
Beautiful.

3385
04:47:17,110 --> 04:47:17,550
Beautiful.

3386
04:47:26,560 --> 04:47:28,000
Face up to your neck to play.

3387
04:47:28,440 --> 04:47:29,380
I don't see why not.

3388
04:47:29,380 --> 04:47:31,860
You put a violin up your knack to play it. Why do you do that?

3389
04:47:32,080 --> 04:47:32,140
What?

3390
04:47:32,800 --> 04:47:35,460
Ah, no, you're not going to get me twice with that one.

3391
04:47:35,560 --> 04:47:37,420
This is based on the ground to play it.

3392
04:47:37,420 --> 04:47:37,880
Let me see?

3393
04:47:40,150 --> 04:47:41,010
Oh, you're right.

3394
04:47:41,310 --> 04:47:43,230
Hey, listen, Lisa, maybe you should play it.

3395
04:47:43,290 --> 04:47:46,630
I can see the sort of a family resembling...

3396
04:47:46,630 --> 04:47:47,690
Can't even turn it back.

3397
04:47:57,180 --> 04:47:58,120
Oh, it's hot.

3398
04:47:58,820 --> 04:48:00,460
Don't scream. We're the torture chamber.

3399
04:48:00,820 --> 04:48:02,500
I'm music. Why do you listen?

3400
04:48:02,840 --> 04:48:05,180
That screams from the torture chamber.

3401
04:48:05,740 --> 04:48:06,020
What?

3402
04:48:06,120 --> 04:48:07,360
What do you expect me to like?

3403
04:48:08,020 --> 04:48:08,540
Minuets?

3404
04:48:08,960 --> 04:48:11,020
Oh, the sound of the human voice.

3405
04:48:11,400 --> 04:48:13,280
Screaming in the carol.

3406
04:48:13,680 --> 04:48:14,460
That's music.

3407
04:48:15,100 --> 04:48:16,360
Oh, no, no, no.

3408
04:48:16,360 --> 04:48:17,180
Oh, not any mic.

3409
04:48:18,140 --> 04:48:19,480
It's time for your music lessons.

3410
04:48:30,180 --> 04:48:31,620
Music, too, I hear.

3411
04:48:33,700 --> 04:48:35,340
Please, stupid things, ladies and gentlemen.

3412
04:48:35,980 --> 04:48:36,920
You've got to be kidding.

3413
04:48:37,380 --> 04:48:39,100
Not the noise of the machine.

3414
04:48:39,760 --> 04:48:42,340
The noise of the pop and quarters into them.

3415
04:48:45,100 --> 04:48:47,980
Believe it or not, those last couple of skits had a message.

3416
04:48:47,980 --> 04:48:55,640
They were trying, and trying is the operative word here, to point out that what's music to one person's ears can be quite painful to another.

3417
04:48:56,200 --> 04:48:58,500
We asked some kids what was music to their ears.

3418
04:48:59,300 --> 04:49:01,400
Some of it was a little painful to mine.

3419
04:49:04,120 --> 04:49:07,480
Well, I like classic jazz, and also got some.

3420
04:49:08,740 --> 04:49:10,880
My teacher reminds me of a trumpet.

3421
04:49:11,620 --> 04:49:17,820
He's always, well, he's not always yelling, but sometimes he yells at people, and it's pretty loud, just like a trumpet.

3422
04:49:17,820 --> 04:49:20,780
I don't like the drums because it's too loud.

3423
04:49:21,160 --> 04:49:26,080
The music is just described as maybe I guess rock or...

3424
04:49:26,080 --> 04:49:27,960
I don't really feel like it's music.

3425
04:49:28,240 --> 04:49:29,760
It's more like just making a lot of noise.

3426
04:49:32,180 --> 04:49:36,300
It sounds something like somebody took time into it

3427
04:49:36,300 --> 04:49:38,860
and that's just banging on trash cans or something like that.

3428
04:49:39,460 --> 04:49:40,880
I hate country music.

3429
04:49:41,200 --> 04:49:42,940
Probably with the most more than they have the music.

3430
04:49:44,940 --> 04:49:47,940
Just the way country music sounds, I hear it.

3431
04:49:50,300 --> 04:49:51,780
Hey Justin, yes, I was here.

3432
04:49:52,000 --> 04:49:54,220
What do you think about the music they play in elevators?

3433
04:49:54,580 --> 04:49:55,440
Oh, it's boring.

3434
04:49:55,900 --> 04:49:57,300
Because they have an aim for that stuff, you know?

3435
04:49:57,640 --> 04:49:58,900
The music they play in elevators?

3436
04:49:59,140 --> 04:49:59,640
I don't.

3437
04:50:00,180 --> 04:50:03,100
No? No, then what's it called?

3438
04:50:03,640 --> 04:50:05,540
Snewsack and makes you go to sleep.

3439
04:50:06,600 --> 04:50:07,300
Hey Christine?

3440
04:50:08,120 --> 04:50:10,900
Yeah, bro? No Christine, everyone in our family seems.

3441
04:50:11,040 --> 04:50:13,620
What about me, bro? Are you all in a band or something?

3442
04:50:14,000 --> 04:50:18,120
No, there's no luck on the bathroom door, and every time you go in, you strike up a team.

3443
04:50:19,060 --> 04:50:19,460
Families?

3444
04:50:20,760 --> 04:50:25,080
Hey, Justin? Yes, Lisa. You know, when I think my voice feels a hall,

3445
04:50:25,320 --> 04:50:26,860
Well, you must have a pretty strong voice.

3446
04:50:26,860 --> 04:50:28,680
Well, no, my voice had to put the hall.

3447
04:50:28,820 --> 04:50:30,820
I feel like trying to get out of it.

3448
04:50:31,080 --> 04:50:31,960
I'm actually Lisa.

3449
04:50:31,960 --> 04:50:33,540
I'm kind of surprised that anyone could

3450
04:50:33,540 --> 04:50:34,720
get into the auditorium at all,

3451
04:50:34,760 --> 04:50:36,520
what would your wide-ish hips at all?

3452
04:50:36,760 --> 04:50:38,160
Oh, my, my hips!

3453
04:50:38,160 --> 04:50:39,880
Don't strain your voice, please, Mom.

3454
04:50:41,120 --> 04:50:41,820
Hey, Rody?

3455
04:50:42,360 --> 04:50:42,900
Yes, Armstrong.

3456
04:50:43,160 --> 04:50:45,300
Last week, my rock band played at a party.

3457
04:50:45,880 --> 04:50:46,660
Oh, we did.

3458
04:50:46,740 --> 04:50:48,620
Did the Ashley to come back and play again?

3459
04:50:49,040 --> 04:50:49,720
Not exactly.

3460
04:50:50,140 --> 04:50:51,040
They dared me to.

3461
04:50:52,800 --> 04:50:53,420
Hey, Lisa.

3462
04:50:53,940 --> 04:50:54,440
Yes, Lucy?

3463
04:50:54,780 --> 04:50:56,500
When I gave my violin recital,

3464
04:50:56,500 --> 04:51:00,560
The audience cheered and clapped and stamped it for hours and hours and hours.

3465
04:51:00,820 --> 04:51:02,340
I didn't know you would act good.

3466
04:51:02,740 --> 04:51:06,720
Well, actually, they only started a plot in when I told them that I'd do an on-corp.

3467
04:51:06,960 --> 04:51:08,520
They would stop making so much noise.

3468
04:51:08,760 --> 04:51:09,480
You know?

3469
04:51:10,400 --> 04:51:11,180
Okay, I was certain.

3470
04:51:11,740 --> 04:51:12,280
Yes, Brody.

3471
04:51:12,500 --> 04:51:16,140
When I gave my powder a signal, the audience would glue to their seats.

3472
04:51:16,500 --> 04:51:18,320
Oh, my great idea, Brody.

3473
04:51:18,540 --> 04:51:20,900
You know, Boston and Gin is way to keep them there.

3474
04:51:21,480 --> 04:51:22,300
I had some time.

3475
04:51:30,720 --> 04:51:31,680
Jurgajuri, Jurgajuri.

3476
04:51:31,980 --> 04:51:33,420
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, okay.

3477
04:51:33,560 --> 04:51:33,900
All right.

3478
04:51:34,260 --> 04:51:38,020
But only if you sing a Carroll format.

3479
04:51:38,760 --> 04:51:39,040
Carroll?

3480
04:51:39,920 --> 04:51:41,140
Wait a minute, this is in Christmas.

3481
04:51:41,140 --> 04:51:42,040
This is Halloween.

3482
04:51:42,460 --> 04:51:44,340
Yeah, you're supposed to give us treats.

3483
04:51:44,820 --> 04:51:45,600
Look, kids.

3484
04:51:46,620 --> 04:51:48,040
The way I figure it is very simple.

3485
04:51:48,040 --> 04:51:50,520
If the store is, can start to explain

3486
04:51:50,520 --> 04:51:52,560
that Christmas stuff, and Halloween,

3487
04:51:53,020 --> 04:51:55,600
then I can have Carroll's son for me.

3488
04:51:56,100 --> 04:51:56,480
Okay.

3489
04:51:56,700 --> 04:51:58,080
You better have good candy version.

3490
04:51:58,640 --> 04:51:59,440
All right. Come on.

3491
04:51:59,440 --> 04:52:00,760
1, edit it 1,

3492
04:52:03,770 --> 04:52:04,170
2, 3,

3493
04:52:11,800 --> 04:52:16,500
I know I told you we can have a piano if we had room for it

3494
04:52:16,500 --> 04:52:18,100
but this is ridiculous

3495
04:52:18,100 --> 04:52:22,100
oh no last, please try to keep your elbows off the piano

3496
04:52:22,100 --> 04:52:24,900
oh no no no no no stop that

3497
04:52:24,900 --> 04:52:28,800
how many times do I have to tell you not to play with your food?

3498
04:52:39,980 --> 04:52:41,040
2, you're gonna play for us today

3499
04:52:41,040 --> 04:52:42,660
you know I've always loved the piano

3500
04:52:42,660 --> 04:52:44,780
I can't play it though, but I've never tried

3501
04:52:44,780 --> 04:52:47,620
my mother always said that my musical talent

3502
04:52:47,620 --> 04:52:49,960
See, my voice, how do I know why?

3503
04:52:50,080 --> 04:52:52,040
You know, we've ever thought about human voice.

3504
04:52:52,160 --> 04:52:53,580
It's a beautiful musical instrument.

3505
04:52:53,880 --> 04:52:55,480
I didn't think of all the great opposters.

3506
04:52:55,820 --> 04:52:58,720
There was chorizo and paparotti and Maria Calas.

3507
04:52:59,000 --> 04:53:01,840
They all used their beautiful voices to make beautiful music.

3508
04:53:02,420 --> 04:53:05,640
Voices, so beautiful that people thought they were angel singing.

3509
04:53:06,100 --> 04:53:10,100
Voices, so beautiful that people cried when they heard them.

3510
04:53:10,460 --> 04:53:10,960
No, Lisa.

3511
04:53:11,320 --> 04:53:12,760
I can understand that.

3512
04:53:13,140 --> 04:53:13,420
You can?

3513
04:53:13,920 --> 04:53:17,100
Yeah, because I want to scream every time I hear yours.

3514
04:53:19,360 --> 04:53:19,800
I'm

3515
04:53:27,580 --> 04:53:29,280
not for it, but I like pulling a piano.

3516
04:53:29,740 --> 04:53:32,760
Well, you see, I do, but she doesn't know that.

3517
04:53:33,140 --> 04:53:36,780
Well, why I played the piano and liked it and chew out my mum, no?

3518
04:53:37,280 --> 04:53:39,540
Well, that's a bad and state because for punishment,

3519
04:53:39,940 --> 04:53:41,180
one makes me practice this.

3520
04:53:42,460 --> 04:53:45,620
Just can I look at this room?

3521
04:53:48,920 --> 04:53:50,200
Have you practiced your piano yet?

3522
04:53:50,600 --> 04:53:51,180
No, Mom.

3523
04:53:51,560 --> 04:53:54,360
Right. Well, you get started and I'll clean up this room.

3524
04:54:03,190 --> 04:54:04,150
You do your good, dear.

3525
04:54:04,150 --> 04:54:07,210
He's like this son first, if you have seen him in my bed yet.

3526
04:54:07,330 --> 04:54:10,050
Well, I wanted to look nice from the piano to come looking for you.

3527
04:54:10,270 --> 04:54:13,010
But for her, he's always known that I hired a policeman.

3528
04:54:13,410 --> 04:54:16,250
Well, you know that Lisa, but he always looks for you under the bed first.

3529
04:54:16,630 --> 04:54:20,430
But that reminds me, dear, he's due any second you better get down there.

3530
04:54:20,610 --> 04:54:20,830
Oh!

3531
04:54:24,960 --> 04:54:27,200
There's always one thing that bothers me about music.

3532
04:54:27,560 --> 04:54:27,920
What's that?

3533
04:54:28,120 --> 04:54:30,760
Well, why is it that music you like to play loud on your stereo?

3534
04:54:30,940 --> 04:54:32,640
Your parents are always making it turn down.

3535
04:54:33,060 --> 04:54:35,800
And music, you don't like to play. Your parents always make it your practice.

3536
04:54:39,880 --> 04:54:42,560
It's a funnel clock, you know what that means.

3537
04:54:42,900 --> 04:54:45,420
No, no, not that. Come on, it's torture.

3538
04:54:45,700 --> 04:54:50,900
I know. It's time for your piano lesson.

3539
04:54:51,880 --> 04:54:53,660
I'm just getting to rock instead.

3540
04:54:55,620 --> 04:54:56,200
No, don't you?

3541
04:54:56,820 --> 04:54:56,920
No.

3542
04:54:56,940 --> 04:54:57,780
What else can I help?

3543
04:54:58,420 --> 04:54:58,900
No.

3544
04:55:21,770 --> 04:55:23,090
So what's all I've heard?

3545
04:55:23,090 --> 04:55:28,390
Well, this one does here. Don't you remember you promised Alice to you buy him a motorcycle?

3546
04:55:28,910 --> 04:55:30,170
He's practiced his violin.

3547
04:55:30,650 --> 04:55:33,370
Well, he's done and heard this.

3548
04:55:34,150 --> 04:55:36,410
Hey, Brody, what's happening? You going to play baseball?

3549
04:55:36,850 --> 04:55:41,150
I was, only my dad cornered me and ordered me to go home and pay my violin.

3550
04:55:41,370 --> 04:55:43,090
I don't know, that's a drive. What are you going to do?

3551
04:55:43,890 --> 04:55:44,770
Comfort-wise.

3552
04:55:47,320 --> 04:55:47,960
Oh, oh.

3553
04:55:51,490 --> 04:55:53,450
He's the closest place to the studio.

3554
04:55:53,810 --> 04:55:54,730
The food is terrible.

3555
04:55:55,290 --> 04:55:57,110
Well, I know it helps me stick to my diet.

3556
04:55:57,110 --> 04:56:00,150
You wouldn't know if you might've come here to see me.

3557
04:56:00,530 --> 04:56:01,770
Then why do you come here?

3558
04:56:02,090 --> 04:56:04,170
Well, if she was placed, I can get Kakka

3559
04:56:04,170 --> 04:56:05,310
for my violin ball.

3560
04:56:05,670 --> 04:56:06,150
Guy!

3561
04:56:06,950 --> 04:56:07,670
Through that.

3562
04:56:08,790 --> 04:56:08,890
Who?

3563
04:56:11,050 --> 04:56:11,810
Oh, oh.

3564
04:56:11,810 --> 04:56:11,830
Oh, oh.

3565
04:56:12,070 --> 04:56:13,910
You've got a suit of sucker.

3566
04:56:14,470 --> 04:56:14,530
Oh, oh.

3567
04:56:14,530 --> 04:56:15,370
And then what happened?

3568
04:56:15,810 --> 04:56:18,390
Well, this grizzly bird, and I,

3569
04:56:18,670 --> 04:56:19,490
were so close.

3570
04:56:20,410 --> 04:56:21,550
We could have shook hands.

3571
04:56:22,170 --> 04:56:23,790
I didn't know if I'd end up with eyes.

3572
04:56:24,070 --> 04:56:25,870
I'm not a day ever, hungry.

3573
04:56:25,870 --> 04:56:31,250
I didn't know what to do. And then, I remembered something I'd heard as a youngster.

3574
04:56:31,710 --> 04:56:33,350
What is it?

3575
04:56:33,570 --> 04:56:36,810
Music sues the savage beast.

3576
04:56:37,570 --> 04:56:40,110
You really played music for it, and he fell asleep?

3577
04:56:41,290 --> 04:56:45,390
I'm not exactly. No. I beat him to death with my clarinet.

3578
04:56:48,600 --> 04:56:49,080
Master?

3579
04:56:49,860 --> 04:56:50,780
The album is here.

3580
04:56:50,880 --> 04:56:51,580
The album is here.

3581
04:56:51,700 --> 04:56:53,080
What instrument I want to play? What is your play?

3582
04:56:53,480 --> 04:56:54,200
Well, I picked

3583
04:56:56,760 --> 04:56:57,840
drum bones.

3584
04:56:58,180 --> 04:57:00,100
Master, why did you pick this song alone?

3585
04:57:00,100 --> 04:57:02,300
I think I'm bigger than you are, how come?

3586
04:57:02,880 --> 04:57:04,220
Well, this is the most fun.

3587
04:57:04,580 --> 04:57:05,520
How do you know this fun?

3588
04:57:06,020 --> 04:57:06,400
Why?

3589
04:57:06,800 --> 04:57:10,560
Because all I know is you the biggest spitball in that history

3590
04:57:10,560 --> 04:57:12,680
of Benedict Arnold public school.

3591
04:57:13,200 --> 04:57:13,920
Go for it.

3592
04:57:14,260 --> 04:57:14,300
Great.

3593
04:57:25,270 --> 04:57:27,130
Probably way to feel just in this finish

3594
04:57:27,130 --> 04:57:29,070
because it's Indian music, saying.

3595
04:57:29,810 --> 04:57:32,250
My Valerie, you know it, it's very important

3596
04:57:32,250 --> 04:57:36,310
for a child to be able to learn to play a musical instrument.

3597
04:57:36,950 --> 04:57:39,210
It's not the same song that I've just used.

3598
04:57:39,210 --> 04:57:41,350
That isn't cool.

3599
04:57:41,550 --> 04:57:46,210
I just hope that I will finally finish watching Guy Fritz.

3600
04:57:47,290 --> 04:57:48,130
Oh yeah.

3601
04:57:51,300 --> 04:57:53,280
You may have a point there.

3602
04:57:58,620 --> 04:58:00,920
It's worth getting the who in here to entertain us.

3603
04:58:01,060 --> 04:58:02,880
Well yeah, it's going to be the farewell concert.

3604
04:58:03,300 --> 04:58:03,560
Great.

3605
04:58:04,000 --> 04:58:04,980
It's all on my friends.

3606
04:58:05,100 --> 04:58:06,080
Oh no, there's a time.

3607
04:58:06,320 --> 04:58:07,040
They're already here.

3608
04:58:07,860 --> 04:58:08,920
They're here already.

3609
04:58:10,340 --> 04:58:12,260
Who do you think is in the burgers?

3610
04:58:13,600 --> 04:58:15,140
I heard that.

3611
04:58:15,140 --> 04:58:18,380
Oh, no, no.

3612
04:58:18,560 --> 04:58:19,680
Oh, no, no.

3613
04:58:19,820 --> 04:58:20,420
You know, photoshop?

3614
04:58:21,180 --> 04:58:21,980
What is this?

3615
04:58:21,980 --> 04:58:23,660
You guys go into a wedding or something?

3616
04:58:23,820 --> 04:58:24,960
What's going on here?

3617
04:58:25,280 --> 04:58:27,680
Relax. You're just in time to hear our quintet play.

3618
04:58:27,820 --> 04:58:30,220
Mosa's considered a demon or frustrated Smiths.

3619
04:58:30,860 --> 04:58:31,460
Wait a minute.

3620
04:58:31,620 --> 04:58:32,100
Most owner.

3621
04:58:33,400 --> 04:58:35,540
Mozart's, concherto, indeed, minor.

3622
04:58:36,080 --> 04:58:39,120
You can't do that. That's a very difficult piece.

3623
04:58:39,400 --> 04:58:40,020
We know.

3624
04:58:40,380 --> 04:58:42,500
But we've been practicing for the last half hour.

3625
04:58:42,960 --> 04:58:44,140
Half hour?

3626
04:59:04,630 --> 04:59:05,110
This

3627
04:59:10,900 --> 04:59:13,040
is a totally new kind of television program.

3628
04:59:13,260 --> 04:59:15,020
It's made four ordinary Canadian kids,

3629
04:59:15,320 --> 04:59:16,500
by ordinary Canadian kids.

3630
04:59:16,900 --> 04:59:17,660
We're all new to television,

3631
04:59:17,980 --> 04:59:19,840
so we're still trying to find a way around the studio.

3632
04:59:20,420 --> 04:59:22,600
Anything can happen and probably will.

3633
04:59:24,740 --> 04:59:26,320
Come on, John, just must be the place.

3634
04:59:26,320 --> 04:59:27,280
Get a more television.

3635
04:59:27,940 --> 04:59:30,980
Oh, boy! I like it! Hi, girls! Hi, mom!

3636
04:59:32,740 --> 04:59:35,140
What do you do to think you are doing?

3637
04:59:35,140 --> 04:59:37,960
You stepped right through this young lady's picture.

3638
04:59:38,160 --> 04:59:39,480
You could have heard her seriously.

3639
04:59:40,280 --> 04:59:40,780
Sorry, sir.

3640
04:59:40,800 --> 04:59:41,860
You seem we're no around.

3641
04:59:42,580 --> 04:59:43,620
Yes, stupid kids.

3642
04:59:44,060 --> 04:59:46,240
But kids do and I can't make a television show anyway.

3643
04:59:46,940 --> 04:59:49,360
If I were you, I would switch over

3644
04:59:49,360 --> 04:59:52,400
and find out what the other channels are doing right now.

3645
04:59:52,720 --> 04:59:53,320
No, wait.

3646
04:59:53,500 --> 04:59:54,500
We'll save the trouble.

3647
04:59:54,760 --> 04:59:56,240
We'll change the channels for you.