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All right.

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Good evening, Winfield and welcome to the Winfield Village Board of

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Trustee's meeting for Thursday, September 3rd, 2026.

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Can we call the roll please?

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Yes, Trustee Carroll?

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Here.

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Trustee Jacobs?

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Yes.

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Trustee Janowick?

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Present.

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Trustee Longs?

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Here.

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Trustee Piscola is excused.

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Trustee Zimitis is excused.

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President Sorghez?

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Here.

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We have a quorum.

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Thank you.

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Can we rise to the pledge please?

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I'm the guy in this hall with liberty and joy.

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Do you have any correspondence this evening?

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We do not.

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Okay, thank you.

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I'm going to move on a point of privilege today, really to celebrate one of our wonderful

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residents of Winfield who has been here almost his entire life.

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In fact, he has been here his entire life, who just celebrated his 100th birthday, John

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Carwowski Senior.

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I want to congratulate him first of all and just talk a little bit about John's background

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in history which is very colorful and think about this going back to 1926 as a resident

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of Winfield. So John was born in 26 and is one of the oldest living born and raised

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Winfield residents. One of his earliest memories is from 1932 when he was in first grade

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at St. John the Baptist School. And in those days, how some of the kids got to school included

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writing ponies to school, and they left their ponies in the barn behind the school.

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And of course, when they had to go to the restroom,

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well, that was the outhouse, which was in the back since there was no indoor bathrooms

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until approximately 1937.

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So when the kids got older, they learned how to drive by driving farm tractors.

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And John remembers driving his father's studa baker when he was 12 years old.

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And for summer jobs, the boys helped at local farms to cut this whole out of the wheat,

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or in the fall they cut and hust corn, all for a whopping 35 cents an hour.

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For fun, local kids played in the pit, which is now where Caliandos is.

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And they swam in the DuPage River by the Aurora and Elgin Rural Bridge near Geneva Road, which

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which happens to be right where that bike trail is over in that area.

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Local businesses, when they really were getting started here in Winfield, one of the characteristics

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of the time, aside from multiple taverns, who served a relatively small population,

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the original tavern owned by the car waskies, stood near today's village hall, where

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John also served in the Armed Forces.

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Mary's wife and John were stationed in Japan in 1949

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while John was in the Army.

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From 1948 to 1976, the Korean War started June 26, 1950,

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and he went off to fight in the war on July 1, 1950.

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He retired from the Army as a major in 1976.

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In 1953, John took over John's buffet from his parents,

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and they opened the liquor store in 1956.

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Those of you who have been in the community

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for a longer period of time,

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I'm sure remember Johns with Fay

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and when it still had the liquor store next to it,

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before that all became part of the restaurant area.

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Also, John was instrumental in the first fire department

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here in Winfield.

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So when there was a call for the fire department,

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it was at and made to the Karrowowski home and John's buffet.

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When someone called the fire department they dialed number 100.

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There always had to be someone at home in case the phone rang

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and the caller was a resident needed to reach the fire department.

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John would make the music stop playing when the phone rang

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so they could dispatch the volunteer fireman if needed.

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And John was the fire chief from 1974 to 1988.

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And in the early days, they were paid a dollar per call, but he remembers that going up

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to the whopping $10 a call.

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In the 1970s, John hired musicians to play Dixie Land Jazz on Friday and Saturday nights

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at the tavern, because he and his wife Mary enjoyed the music.

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And John's son also named John took over in 1988 and remodeled the liquor store in 1995

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five and opened the restaurant or the new side of some called it until it closed in

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2017.

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Another business that John founded along with Jack High and John Knippen was the Bank

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of Winfield in 1967.

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John was the director of the bank from 1967 to 1992 and in 1993 it was purchased by the

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Bank of Detroit and changed names.

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It was then purchased by First Chicago, then Bank 1, and then Chase Bank, which of course is what it is today.

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So I want to congratulate John on his 100th birthday.

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That's really a fantastic milestone and thank him for all of the good things he's done for this community over the years.

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And I wish him all the best and hopefully many, many more years to enjoy his life here in Winfield.

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So congratulations, John.

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Okay,

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that brings us up to item number five, audience participation and presentations.

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Under 5A, public comments, the opportunity to speak to the village board is provided for those who have a question or comment on an agenda item or a village wind field issue that will stimulate thought.

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So as to make the village board deliberations more productive and meaningful, the village board appreciates hearing from our residents and your thoughts and questions are valued.

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Public comments can be made in person, or provided in writing until 3 p.m. the day of the village board meeting to be read into the public record and written public comments can be sent via email to infoatwinfieldvillagewinfield.com.

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Respect for the duties of the village board and for the democratic process will be adhered to in this regard civility and a sense of decorum will be strictly followed.

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All speakers must address their comments to the board and comments that are personally

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condescending will not be permitted and please use the microphone when speaking as the

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proceedings are being televised and please state your name before commenting.

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While not required, it would be helpful for the village board for citizens to state if

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they are a resident of the village and all comments under audience participation are limited

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to three minutes and each citizen will only be permitted to speak once.

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So, do we have any public comments, is he any?

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Feel free to go right up to the podium.

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Hi.

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My name is Karen Araqawa, and I live in the Klein Creek subdivision on the 14th hole of

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the Klein Creek golf course.

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We are here tonight as a community, which several of them will be still arriving there at

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curriculum night, to bring the board's attention to the unsafe, unhealthy, polite conditions we have been

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living with for the past six years.

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I have packets to hand out.

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Here are some recent photos taken this August of the 14th whole pond.

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As you can see, we have thick algae covering the entire pond, two trees down in the pond

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since July 4th storms, four trees down around the pond since the July 27th storm, branches

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ences are bent or dangling around the pond, and each week branches are breaking and

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falling in her backyards and back into the pond.

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Furthermore the pond is littered with storm debris and the storm water drainage is completely

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blocked and covered with algae.

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Mark, can you show them the blocked algae one?

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Weeds are in excess of two feet and growing all around the pond.

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Several of the homeowners around the pond have repeatedly called the golf course, notifying

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them of the conditions.

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We have had your code enforcement officer and arborist out to survey the conditions.

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They are very sympathetic to our case and have made several unsuccessful attempts to meet

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with the course manager at the Klein Creek golf course.

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Now I have a second packet.

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If you look at page one of your packet, in property and tort law, the definition of a nuisance

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is an unlawful or unreasonable interference with someone's use and enjoyment of their

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property or interference with the rights of the general public.

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A private nuisance is an activity on neighboring lands such as loud noises, foul orders, or

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toxic smoke that substantially harms an individual's enjoyment of their property.

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And a public nuisance is an action or condition that harms offends or endangers the safety,

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health or comfort of the entire community. The condition of the 14th and 16th

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whole ponds on the Klein Creek golf course are a nuisance to the home owners

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that live on and around those two ponds. We cannot enjoy our own backyards due

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to the file odor from the algae. The danger of trees are branches falling in our

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own backyards and the condition of the pond that creates an unreasonable

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interference with each home owner's use and enjoyment of their property. If you

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Please turn the page two of your code packet.

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The Village of Winfield operates under the International Property Maintenance Code.

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Businesses are legally required to maintain their grounds, stormwater management systems,

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and water features to prevent public nuisances or unsanitary conditions.

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An LG Philpon violates the Village Maintenance Standards if it creates stagnant water, foul

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odors, and breeding grounds for insects.

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The Klein Creek Golf Course Ponds on the 14th and 16th holes that are covered with LG have

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stagnant water, file odors, and create breeding grounds for insects.

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This is the first code violation I would like to bring to the board's attention.

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The please turn now to page three of your code packet.

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The International Property Maintenance Code and strict stormwater and floodplain regulations

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state businesses are legally required to maintain their drainage facilities and retention ponds

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so they do not become stagnant pools.

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Public nuisance are breeding grounds for mosquitoes.

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Turn to page four.

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The village of Winfield is supposed

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to regulate the retention ponds

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and storm water infrastructure

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under Title 11, Chapter 3, and Title 12,

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Chapter 1 of its municipal code.

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Specifically, Winfield Code, Section 11-3-6,

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Subsection D6 explicitly mandates

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that storm water management easements

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must be adequately maintained to remove any accumulation of vegetation,

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silt, debris, or any of the material that interferes with the flow operation

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of retention and detention ponds.

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Please look at the picture of the stormwater easement on the 14th hole.

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As you can see from the photo, the stormwater drainage located on the 14th hole

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easement is completely blocked and has not been maintained for six years.

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There is no flow and is not operating causing flooding in our backyards when it

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range or when there's a heavy snowfall. This is the second code violation I like to bring the

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board's attention to.

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Can I have someone else read it then?

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What did you say? I have a third code violation to read. I can have someone else read it then.

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I can do it. Okay. If you turn to page five of your packet, the village of Winfield

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enforces the removal of down trees on business properties through its code enforcement division

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and under standard property maintenance regulations.

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Fallen, dead, or structurally hazardous trees

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on private business properties are legally classified

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as a public nuisance.

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Page six now.

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Under Title 4, Chapter 8 of the Winfield Code of Ordinances,

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downed or hazardous trees on commercial properties

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can be legally declared a public nuisance.

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Once again, Winfield enforces the International

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Property Maintenance Code.

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Debt or following trees must be cleared by the property owner to eliminate safety hazards

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and maintain community aesthetics.

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And finally page 7 of your packet.

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The village of Winfield adopted the 2024 International Property Maintenance Code, which gives coded

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enforcement officers the statutory backing to site commercial properties for failing

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to maintain their grounds.

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Or leaving dangerous neglected debris on site.

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This is the third code violation I would like to bring the Board to attention to.

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In conclusion, the Klein Creek Golf Course is deliberately and intentionally not maintained

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the ponds on the 14th and 16th holes.

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He has sent threatening legal letters to several of us homeowners, but has forgotten our fifth

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amendment rights.

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The harassment we have endured is grounds for a lawsuit, but we are here tonight to mandate

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the village of Winfield take immediate action.

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The Klein Creek Golf Course is clearly in violation of three wind field codes.

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The village should be sending the formal, written letter and citation to the course as soon

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as possible and notifying the golf course of the specific time frame window to comply.

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If action is not taken, by the golf course, the village according to the village rules and

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regulations should find the course until all code violations have been addressed.

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In addition, the village can either clean up the ponds or hire outside contractors.

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The golf course would be charged for the work and a tax lien placed on their business.

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We, the Klein Creek subdivision, will not be silent or allow this to continue.

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We are fully prepared to take this to the next step of the village.

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Thank you, and I believe some of my neighbors might have a couple comments.

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So I'm passing just one sheet. Sorry, I brought that to the table. Mark Rens, also Klein Creek subdivision. Ben here since 2018.

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And the first photos are of the pond 2018 when we first moved in the back as he paged through our of current. And there's the picture of the drain that Karen pointed out where there's just debris blocking that I've gone out.

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personally and cleared it when we've had a lot of rains to clear the floods, but

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otherwise it's backing up in our yard.

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And my last point would just be that with the the odors when we go through a drought,

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I personally mow my lawn.

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I hold my breath for the last 10 feet of my lawn as I mowing down towards the pond and

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then come back up for fresh air, that's what I call it.

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So it is quite disturbing.

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our back deck we haven't really used because there's nothing pleasant to look at.

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We took pictures from the deck, if you could pass that, because I know it got to the village attorney.

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I would really insist that they do look at it, so.

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No, they don't say that they want to know what they thought they saw it on.

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No, it's separate photos, it's top to the village attorney, just make sure you all see it, please.

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But that's all I would say, thank you guys for all your volunteer work.

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I appreciate that and your time and if you could just take this under consideration.

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Thank you.

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Good evening.

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My name is Gibbs Vanderkuck.

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I've lived in Winfield and on Klein Creek the 13th Fairway for 26 years.

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I would lend a bit of caution to all of you on 14 because when I moved in 26 years ago,

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I had a lovely pond behind my house.

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We had ducks, it was lovely.

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After a few years it started to go down a little bit.

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We discovered that the clay tile drain that drains the water from 13 to 14, okay, was broken down, and we couldn't get them to repair it.

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Now, I offered this concern because there was a time between then and now where 13 looked just like 14 does.

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And I couldn't get the village, I couldn't get the golf course, I couldn't get the DNR, the core of engineers,

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the Department of the Environmental Protection Agency to take any action.

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I even copied our president of the village and didn't even get a response.

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Okay, every year, send a letter to the golf course asking him to please remove the down trees.

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Please take care of this quagmire.

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If you look at it now, you would never guess it was ever upon.

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Every year, I get a different excuse.

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Every year, I get no action.

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The implication to me is that nobody has a concern with the fact that I get the put the putrid smells that you're talking about.

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I've got animals coming up into my yard.

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It's unpleasant for people who want to sit in my backyard or sit on my deck, but it falls on deaf ears.

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We've had a progression of owners.

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The first owner seemed to do a pretty good job.

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The second owner says we all know went into bankruptcy and it started to fall into disrepair

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when the new owner bought he made all kinds of promises and every year he makes

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more promises and now he doesn't even return calls or emails. So I just plead

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the village to take some action before 14 and 16 end up a quagmire like I have

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on 13 and like I have to deal with every day. Thank you.

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Are there any other

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comments?

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Some of these neighbors called us so on Monday we did send a letter to

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to client-creek golf course bring young concern to get in 30 days.

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We'll put Peter and his team put that out there to reach that to see if we can rectify

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any conditions.

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Blast chance.

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There's any other comments?

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Can you guys see none?

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What happens after 30 days?

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There's nothing changed.

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We're not able to go to the back and forth on this, but we'll try to communicate that.

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There's no further comments, so we're going to move on to item number 5B, which is the center

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out there.

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Yeah, so in the background, a lot of progress is happening.

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We're having our bi-weekly, a really week meeting with the architect and construction manager.

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This week we sat down with them and we really finalized the floor plan.

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The couple issues that our architect Andy is looking at is going to come back to us with.

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And then on the bond issue inside, we have a large call today that trustee Carol and

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Village President Sorgets were on we need to come back to the board in size what that

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edition looks like so Connie and her team are directed to come up with a few

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different options for the board to review a week and then we can take that to start

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finalizing the official statement. In some positive news or it's all positive news

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but our little playground over at Rip Walk Park got some wind viral with a busy

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It is a Instagram and Facebook account of a mom who goes around with the kids and reviews parks and our playground got pop marks and a lot of great comments on that.

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So shout out to Busy Beaver.

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Busy Beaver's, that concludes my report.

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Thank you.

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I'll bring us up to item number six, which is a consent agenda on our 6A minutes from the August 20th, 20th, 20th, 26 village board meeting.

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Item number six, B minutes from the August 20th, 20th, 20th, 26 committee of the home meeting.

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Item number 6C, payment of bills for September 3rd, 2026, the amount of $403,209.

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Those are the three items, I would move for a motion, please.

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Can I ask that we pull C?

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Okay, we would pull C.

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So we have item number 6A and 6B, can I have a motion to approve, please?

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Second.

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Okay, we have a motion in second, can we call the roll?

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Trustee Carroll?

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Yes.

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Trustee Longs?

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Yes.

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Trustee Janowick?

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Yes.

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And Trustee Jacobs?

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Yes.

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Motion passes.

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Thank you.

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So on item number 6c.

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Trustee Janowick?

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Yes.

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I'll continue to voice my opposition to the continuation of the use of JASCULATURN and JT Communications.

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As a PR firm, we were told during the lawsuit that this was a necessary and I supported the

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the lawsuits over, I was not pleased with their services overall, but

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I don't think we should continue to use this firm.

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And on the side note, I support our need for

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communications help and support, but I think that this is not at this price point,

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the right approach for the village of Winfield, so I just want to make that comment.

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And I'll do that every time one of their bills comes up, until we stop using it.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Thank you. I don't necessarily agree with your comments. I think they were very instrumental in getting us to a successful conclusion in the lawsuit, especially in communicating that information to the community.

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And we are looking at some other options currently. So, but in the meantime, you know, we do have some other issues that we want to address. And until we can take a look at what those other options are, we'll probably continue to use them especially with the next newsletter that comes out.

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Let's see, November?

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Yeah, November.

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I do have a proposal of another firm going back and forth.

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I'm dying on that.

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And that proposal is correctly.

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Great.

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And for what it's worth, I'm new said because of the price point,

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but mine is really more because of the quality of the work.

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So we might have different opinions,

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but I think there are multiple factors.

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Okay.

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So can we have a motion to approve item number 6C, please?

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These?

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Some of them.

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Second.

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We did, right?

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We did, right?

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Do we vote at A&B?

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Yes.

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A&B were part of the consent agenda.

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Yeah, okay.

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They were both approved.

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Okay.

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So we have a motion?

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Second.

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And a second.

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On item 6c.

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Okay.

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Trustee Longs?

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Yes.

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Trustee Janowick.

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Yes.

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Trustee Jacobs?

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Yes.

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Trustee Carroll?

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Yes.

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Motion passes.

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Thank you.

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Item number 7 approval.

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We will enter governmental agreement between the village and the Chicago Metropolitan Agency for Planning, C-MAP, to establish responsibilities for local technical assistance programs.

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And real question is, you're all more welcome to stay.

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I know there are some things in the life that are probably more exciting than bill and board meetings.

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I hope you want to get to those and we'll not be attending us if you leave.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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We appreciate it.

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All

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right, thank you, Village President.

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I am pleased to present the Intergovernmental Agreement with CMAP, the Chicago Metropolitan Agency for Planning,

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to receive technical assistance for the creation of a new bicycle and pedestrian plan for the village.

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Staff sent an application to CMAP last spring for this program,

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knowing that professional planning services for a new bicycle and pedestrian plan.

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We're included in the 2027 budget with the intention of replacing the old one from 2011.

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After going through an interview process, for our application, CMAP notified the village last June that we were one of the community selected for the local technical assistance program.

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The IGA they have provided is in front of you tonight for approval and establishes the respective responsibilities of CMAP and the village under the program.

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It's important to clarify that approval of the agreement does not commit the village to construction of any particular

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Pedestrian or bicycle improvement rather a bicycle and pedestrian plan is intended to identify and

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recommend potential improvements based on professional research and stakeholder input to guide future decision-making during the capital budgeting process.

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The village's local contribution under the agreement is $20,000, which is an $80,000 savings compared to the budget $100,000 for the service.

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The contribution payment will be due to CMAP in October of 2027, CMAP scope of professional services involving planners and engineers will include assessment of existing bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure and conditions, analysis of crash trends and other factors affecting safety, identification of challenges and opportunities for improved connectivity both locally and regionally, public and stakeholder engagement, which will involve a Syrian committee, formal recommendations for improvement

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improvements to existing routes and new connections, and identification of potential grant funding sources for future implementation.

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The final plan will include an existing conditions report, a key recommendations memorandum, and a final plan document containing infrastructure and policy recommendations.

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The final plan will also identify actions to be taken within two years to advance certain recommendations with cost estimates, grant opportunities, and project types in mind.

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The timeline and public engagement schedule will be jointly established by CMAP in the village prior to commencement of the work.

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It's expected the project to take around 12 to 15 months from the project kickoff to village board adoption of the plan and with that I'll be happy to answer any questions.

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Any questions for Ben?

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I've got to guess a handful.

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I guess I'll say I'm excited that this is, I'm excited we have the opportunity to do

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this.

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I know the Public Works Committee talked about it and has heard lots of feedback from the

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community and Rahats fielded lots of questions on this intersection and that intersection

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and what can we do about individual items and I think the Public Works Committee.

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The philosophy was it's hard to do each of those individually without having some sort

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prioritization. And I guess I have a few questions to start kind of big picture. Do we feel like this is the right we budgeted based on some estimates, I believe that $100,000 was, I'll say from private consultancy perhaps.

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Correct.

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Do we feel like we're going to get the product we want? I'm excited about the savings. I just want to make sure we're getting do we think we're still get a comparable product for that lower amount?

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I believe so, CMAP does a lot of great work.

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They do have planners on staff that could also be staffed on a private firm.

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It's also possible that they could bring a private firm in.

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We wouldn't be responsible for payment to them, but we would have to approve who that firm

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would be, and that would go through the whole stakeholder process input.

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But so it would be probably mostly them doing the work, but I am confident it will do a

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good job.

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Great.

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And the fact is, the regional planning agency for the area, they can see federal funding.

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They are pretty much considered a cold standard for planning in Northern Illinois for us.

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That's what I was hoping to hear.

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The idea of public input that you brought up, is it clear, will it be, you know, there's ways

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to ask for public input and really do it in a check the box kind of way.

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Do we feel good that we'll have kind of multiple opportunities and lots of different ways

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for us to get the input from the community, which I think they really want to share?

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Well, one of the things I want to do in that regard is to have a certainly a steering committee

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appointed for that, and you know, one of the persons obviously I'd be looking at would be

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the owner of our wonderful bike shop in town and a couple of the individuals that were

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on the bike committee previously, but there's others I know in town.

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That we'd like to get involved with this process, so that's important. And that does bring in that, you know, local input for sure. The other thing I'm excited about this because if the Roosevelt Road upgrade takes place, which supposedly could happen in the next two years, with the, well, at least the last plans that we reviewed showed a bike trail on the north side of Roosevelt Road.

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but with no connectivity across Roosevelt Road to get across to Cantini.

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So that would be another thing we certainly want to look at with CMAP to see what kind of options.

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And then we probably would try to bring in Cantini into that discussion and then also the county of DuPage.

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Because there could be the possibility of getting an extension from Mac Road all the way out to Winfield Road,

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which then would allow for access to the bike trails that then continue further south and of course go west.

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So because the only option now until the bridge is completed over Roosevelt road over by 59,

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which you have to find a way to get across there, when that gets completed, that would be the only route.

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And I think that's going to be done within another 12 or 15 months.

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But it would be nice if we had access for people on the south side of the track stew to continue on from that direction.

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So that's all part of what I think we can pull together here.

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And then in the village itself, how can we improve the flow and the safety issues,

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even where there's the crossover part by, I'm trying to remember the name of the park.

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There's a cross over one field road there, so, you know, again, just looking at all these different points, how can we connect?

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And one of the things that I've seen actually in the last couple of days, I don't know if it's the same person, but so many riding the bike on

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when field road which is narrow as it is with really no designated bike and that could be dangerous.

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So if there's a way that we can find for people on the north side to get all the way to the south side in a safer way that would be another thing and then enhance the town center to kind of, you know, from commuter standpoint, take your bike right to the commuter station or take your bike and come downtown versus driving the car.

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As we know, our traffic tends to be picking up here lately and it's only going to get a little bit more.

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So those are all the things that I think with this opportunity we're going to have a chance to address.

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I love it.

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I'm glad you're thinking about it in the big scope rather than the small scope.

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And I think that idea that someone who lives on Winfield Road, lots of people around their backside winfield road and it's precarious every time.

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We know sidewalks will be when we ask for public feedback.

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So, do we think the idea of their recommendations, do we have any feel for, if their recommendation is everybody should have a sidewalk?

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That's not necessarily realistic from a budgetary standpoint.

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Do we think that they create, or can we ask for, a prioritization list, or I know sometimes as we're how to share it, have gone into, you know, a 20-year plan that creates one sidewalk on each side of each street that will connect.

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in some way is how will they approach that?

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Yeah, so they'll definitely see input from the public,

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usually in the beginning of the process.

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And if there's hesitation to install sidewalk

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in certain neighborhoods, I would guess they wouldn't recommend it.

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But more just, they're not going to come back and say,

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yes, everybody should have a sidewalk.

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They'll be more.

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No, they'll be more.

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We're not obligated to construction of anything in the plan.

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This is just a plan giving professional recommendations.

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So they go through a prioritization process where inter-connectivity to existing trails and pathways and sidewalks make sense around schools are always highly prioritized.

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So they'll come back to the prioritization.

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Sometimes it's heat-macked where sidewalks should go.

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But a lot of these questions are exactly the steering committees going to be doing.

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And I think it would be smart to have a mix of staff, public, and elected officials on that,

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where you can say this is what we're looking for.

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Gotcha.

450
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:51,920
And I guess the only other question I have is just the idea of, I hope we don't leave out the north side of town a lot of the talk of town center towards Roosevelt.

451
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,620
And I just want to make sure we don't leave out the north side of town and I hope we give them that direction.

452
00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:10,140
I'm sure you guys probably know some of the people that have come multiple times in the recent years.

453
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:22,500
And I'm sure the people Karl mentioned would be good, but if we can maybe even get some of those people that they don't, they're not involved in every issue, but this is something they really haven't talked to people about.

454
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:27,960
I don't know their names, but there's a few women I know that have come and there was one off of

455
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,600
Sort of more in the north side where Dan's talking about

456
00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:36,040
So if we could just maybe try to seek out that different representation would be nice

457
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:43,020
Yeah, I mean if there is a way even more client Creek is because you know, that's kind of like out there

458
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:50,560
That's that's all part of one field so they're all gonna be part of the discussion we're gonna have is to you know

459
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,400
So, what possibilities do we have and what makes sense?

460
00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:56,280
But it's only out there if you don't live there, to them at home.

461
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,940
I guess what I'm saying is that it feels out there if you live on the cell side, but

462
00:35:59,940 --> 00:36:02,840
I think to them it's to be connected to everything else.

463
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,440
Well, but for riding and walking and so on.

464
00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:08,140
When we do make the steering committee, it is a work and committed.

465
00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:08,940
You put in work.

466
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,280
So, we need to make sure we find people who are committed to the process to show up and do

467
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,480
things.

468
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:13,860
Yes.

469
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,760
Some of our committee's structural attendance and stuff, so just be talking with them.

470
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,540
That's why I'm saying if we pick the people that we already know are like,

471
00:36:20,540 --> 00:36:26,920
kind of to add to the feedback process, typically we advertise on our Facebook website

472
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,060
and it's like going to be an online survey.

473
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:35,980
We put it on our newsletter, saying that the online survey that is open, and then there

474
00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:41,260
will be a public meeting, open public meeting, where public can come in, in person and providing

475
00:36:41,260 --> 00:36:46,160
information. So there will be multiple opportunities to provide input to this whole product.

476
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:55,280
And then at the end, the board wishes to see sidewalk everywhere and we can have that in any kind of place.

477
00:36:55,340 --> 00:36:55,680
Sure.

478
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:02,660
I mean, I'm not saying you put a sidewalk everywhere, but we told them that you could say, okay, that's the goal.

479
00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:07,360
And we are accomplished that over the next 50 years.

480
00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:10,240
So we could establish something like that too.

481
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,780
So we're all going to go to curb and gutter, right?

482
00:37:12,860 --> 00:37:13,120
All right.

483
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:18,440
I'd say that's at least the fifth, that's at least 50 years.

484
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,960
You don't, you don't have to add kind of the matter of the sidewalk.

485
00:37:22,220 --> 00:37:23,880
You could widen the street,

486
00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:31,370
people that are walking on the street they come.

487
00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:31,790
So,

488
00:37:35,660 --> 00:37:37,700
yeah, the committee said it's more people's street.

489
00:37:38,060 --> 00:37:43,100
Yeah, I said that many ways of accomplishing sidewalk from like time to night.

490
00:37:45,460 --> 00:37:46,880
Okay, any other questions, comments?

491
00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:53,160
Okay, so we just need a motion on item number seven for approval of the

492
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,980
agreement with CMA.

493
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:55,940
So moved.

494
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,260
Trustee Longs?

495
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:01,800
Yes.

496
00:38:02,260 --> 00:38:03,020
Trustee Janowick?

497
00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:03,360
Yes.

498
00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:04,400
Trustee Jacobs?

499
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:04,820
Yes.

500
00:38:05,060 --> 00:38:05,680
Trustee Carroll?

501
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:06,040
Yes.

502
00:38:06,260 --> 00:38:06,860
Motions approved.

503
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:07,480
Thank you.

504
00:38:07,820 --> 00:38:08,840
Move on to item number 8.

505
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:22,460
Resolution approving the submission of an advisory public question for inclusion on the ballot for the Consolidate election on April 6, 2027 regarding whether the village of Winfield should permit video gaming in the village of Winfield

506
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,340
to Page County, Illinois, and again, stressing the word advisory.

507
00:38:27,860 --> 00:38:39,040
So this simply would allow for a question to be put out there publicly, so that our residents would have the opportunity to opine as to where they would stand relative to video gambling.

508
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:40,720
So I don't know if you wanted to add anything.

509
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:50,060
That's correct, so oftentimes, Peter and I would call some local businesses or outside businesses wanting to know where we are with the video gaming.

510
00:38:50,060 --> 00:38:55,380
We tell them that there's quite the history of video gaming in this town of this permitted it was repealed

511
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,260
There are referendums in there

512
00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:02,780
It's probably appropriate to ask the question again in the residence to make sure that this is something they still want

513
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,740
Most of the businesses in town that call are in favor of it. They would likely add it

514
00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:11,080
I do know that we have the owner of Cali Indos in the audience today

515
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,980
If you have any questions for him

516
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,100
But again, this is we're not putting our fingers on the scale on this one

517
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:18,700
This is an advisory referendum.

518
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,820
The language would be very plain.

519
00:39:22,540 --> 00:39:24,540
And we would take the information

520
00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:26,620
and that would help dictate the direction

521
00:39:26,620 --> 00:39:29,100
of the billet board after that referendum.

522
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,040
Any questions?

523
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,360
Yeah, let me ask you, besides Kellyanne.

524
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:39,980
How many other businesses in Winfield express interest

525
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:40,880
in video gaming?

526
00:39:41,260 --> 00:39:42,420
I don't think we'd have a running tab.

527
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,380
Peter, do you have any color?

528
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,980
I know Cooper's corner is called.

529
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:48,560
I just had a phone call today

530
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,040
from a business interested in moving in town until they found out within that

531
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:58,460
allowed video gaming. It's like, don't you know what business was? That was the one

532
00:39:58,460 --> 00:39:59,700
question they asked me.

533
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,400
Just a second. Yeah, you're gonna shift. Yeah. So, it is

534
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,220
a little bit interesting.

535
00:40:10,510 --> 00:40:16,130
Just a clarify or ask for sure. That is the wording, the

536
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:19,430
the one that's on, the one that says should have the village

537
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:21,770
of Winfield permit video gaming in the village.

538
00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:22,830
Yes.

539
00:40:23,050 --> 00:40:23,950
Is that the actual?

540
00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:25,690
That's where, what would I, if this is approved,

541
00:40:25,850 --> 00:40:26,850
that would be the actual network

542
00:40:26,850 --> 00:40:28,430
that we sent to town before the river.

543
00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:29,410
Okay.

544
00:40:30,030 --> 00:40:33,170
I asked because we've had a history of poorly written,

545
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:37,230
by many people, and I don't, that.

546
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:38,550
That by us, not by us.

547
00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:41,130
No, but just like, I'll buy many people and we don't want that

548
00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:42,910
because then yes, it's advisory,

549
00:40:42,910 --> 00:40:45,250
but then puts us in an awkward position

550
00:40:45,250 --> 00:40:51,870
to, oh but it voted this but it wasn't clear and so I just, you want to be finest attorneys

551
00:40:51,870 --> 00:40:55,030
in DuPage County wrote this language in the room with us today.

552
00:40:55,450 --> 00:41:04,490
Well it's very clear, that's it, that's it, one of, oh okay, it's very clear but that was

553
00:41:04,490 --> 00:41:07,430
my main concern is because we all know what I'm talking about.

554
00:41:07,770 --> 00:41:13,250
Yeah, it's pretty simplified, I believe we have some audience who want to, are asking to

555
00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:14,510
Yes, go ahead, feel free.

556
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:20,160
Danny from Cali.

557
00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:22,100
My name is Danny, I'm the owner of Caliandos.

558
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,320
Video gaming is, from what I understand in the past,

559
00:41:26,460 --> 00:41:28,740
was voted down because of the bad client.

560
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,200
Tell her to bring to the city, or the village, I would say.

561
00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:33,780
I find that very untrue.

562
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,460
I own another establishment in another town.

563
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:37,220
It does not bring the wrong crowd in.

564
00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:41,700
This is a good revenue stream for the city as well for you guys.

565
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,220
I mean, it brings in some money and for everything.

566
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:45,880
And I'm losing business at night from people leaving.

567
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:51,600
I believe people are leaving my establishment to what other sessions to play to slot machines to video gaming.

568
00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:57,500
That's not, I mean, all the surrounding communities have it, we don't.

569
00:41:58,460 --> 00:42:01,960
Also, there's a gaming company that I've been working with and they pulled some numbers and

570
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,940
they said that there's about seven to eight people that in the city of Winfield,

571
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:10,860
the village of Winfield, they want this, or that are available to have with a liquor license and stuff like that.

572
00:42:11,620 --> 00:42:14,060
So I think it's a good thing moving forward to do.

573
00:42:14,060 --> 00:42:18,720
I mean obviously it benefits me, it benefits you, we talked about this this morning in our meeting we had

574
00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:22,660
You did say that

575
00:42:26,140 --> 00:42:28,420
That's all I have. I don't know. Did you have anything you want to say?

576
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:30,760
Yeah,

577
00:42:37,420 --> 00:42:40,420
my name is Jim D. Maria. I'm an investor in Kelli Indos

578
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,860
One other thing I'd like to bring to the board's attention is if you so desire

579
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:49,340
We could come to the next board meeting with statistics and how

580
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,780
video gaming in certain villages, certain cities,

581
00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:56,680
has improved the revenue for those cities.

582
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,020
We can actually give you numbers if that would help.

583
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,600
So it's not a situation where we've already met

584
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,000
and put together a coalition of local businesses

585
00:43:05,570 --> 00:43:06,700
in the village of Winfield,

586
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:08,760
who would be in favor of video gambling.

587
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,820
So we'd be happy to bring those folks here

588
00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:14,180
to the next meeting as well,

589
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,820
as well as bring the statistics that show

590
00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:20,860
how video gaming in your village improves revenue.

591
00:43:21,020 --> 00:43:24,660
And I think that from a village standpoint, you all would be interested in learning about that.

592
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,480
So if there's any other questions that you all might have on that regard, as Danny said,

593
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:32,360
we've already met with a video gaming company.

594
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,840
They've gone ahead and helped implement this in other villages around a surrounding area.

595
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,580
And there would be no reason why we couldn't get it here in our village as well.

596
00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:45,300
Do you have any questions, did anyone ask?

597
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:59,140
I don't have a question, I think thanks for those for you guys that came, I guess the process question of there, this isn't the only, this is a great resident feedback mechanism, it's advisory, it's non-binding, it gives us input.

598
00:44:00,780 --> 00:44:09,460
The actual vote on whether or not we would allow it in our town, there's a couple different paths rather than me butcher it.

599
00:44:09,460 --> 00:44:12,240
I think, I will, yes, and it may not be the answer you want.

600
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,880
It's an advisory referendum.

601
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,300
So there is no requirement that we take this information

602
00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:18,220
and act upon it.

603
00:44:19,420 --> 00:44:22,320
Probably good government to act upon feedback from the residents.

604
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,180
But there's no requirement.

605
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,800
So if this work to be voted on tonight

606
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,200
and it was on the April election ballot

607
00:44:30,740 --> 00:44:34,040
and it was approved, I would come back to the bill

608
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,240
at the board and say what do you guys like

609
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,780
and prepare an ordinance permitting it in the billage.

610
00:44:37,780 --> 00:44:42,100
And then I would prepare that with legal, come back to you guys new program.

611
00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:46,600
If it failed, I think the issue's moved, moved, moved.

612
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:53,560
Yet residents could still buy themselves, place it on the ballot, in a binding way.

613
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Not in a binding way.

614
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:57,900
Okay.

615
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,820
It would still be an advise.

616
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,140
There's a three-referendum. Got it. And that's maybe where I was confused, and I'm glad you clarified.

617
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:10,080
So, residents could not come up with their own referendum question. And it's like a get 25%

618
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,300
of the village residents to sign a petition to get on the ballot. Am I mixing up a-

619
00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:17,120
You're right that they can, but it's not fine.

620
00:45:18,060 --> 00:45:24,100
Right, regardless of who's putting it on the ballot, it's going to be advisory, which

621
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:29,740
Which means hypothetically, if 90% of the residents want this, the board can still

622
00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:30,260
say no.

623
00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:36,280
Conversely, if 90% of the residents say we don't want it, the board could still say yes.

624
00:45:36,820 --> 00:45:40,360
But as the manager pointed out, this is good government.

625
00:45:40,540 --> 00:45:42,840
We're asking the residents what do you want.

626
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,740
With all due respect to the business owners, the issue is really your residents,

627
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,820
not what your business owners want.

628
00:45:51,640 --> 00:46:13,180
And I think it's up to the business owners to, it's incumbent on them, if they feel this is a real important piece to assist them in their day and day operations relative to ensuring they have sufficient of income to continue as a going concern, then it's really their responsibility to get that message out to the community.

629
00:46:13,180 --> 00:46:17,180
So, community becomes aware of, well, why do you want to do this?

630
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:23,120
And I think you can come up with some reasonable pieces of information for

631
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:29,820
the community so that they don't understand how important it could be to a business to survive in the environment we have today.

632
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:30,560
So-

633
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:39,920
And just to remind the board members as well as the business owners, the village cannot advocate for one side or the other.

634
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,520
We can only present facts.

635
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,880
We can't say we really want video gaming,

636
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,700
or we're really against video gaming.

637
00:46:49,140 --> 00:46:53,180
The most we can do is say video gaming means this.

638
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,380
So as the president pointed out,

639
00:46:56,620 --> 00:46:58,940
if the business owners really want this,

640
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:02,180
we would recommend that there, you know,

641
00:47:02,340 --> 00:47:05,240
be the ones that go out there and sell it to the residents.

642
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:11,180
That's kind of what I was going to say is that I mean we can do it if we want right now

643
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,860
and go through our own process.

644
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,680
That's not really what I would prefer to do.

645
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:22,620
I think I speak for myself and several other board members that we like the resident feedback.

646
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,600
So I appreciate this tactic.

647
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,780
Doing this first, I agree with them and if it comes back, yes, then I'd like to move forward.

648
00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:34,160
So I appreciate your offer to provide us more statistics.

649
00:47:34,620 --> 00:47:37,640
I personally don't feel now would be the right time to do that

650
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,280
through the village because of what Dave said is that

651
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,700
I think if we're going to put it to a vote,

652
00:47:46,860 --> 00:47:49,340
we want people to be up to your vote and not see, you know,

653
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,320
like we're already saying one thing or whatever.

654
00:47:51,580 --> 00:47:56,000
So I like the idea of more of the businesses kind of helping to spread the word

655
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,940
so people can get out and if they truly feel that they'll vote it

656
00:47:58,940 --> 00:48:00,520
And then we can take another step.

657
00:48:00,780 --> 00:48:04,480
Well, if I could respond to that, I think one of the things that's very important in terms

658
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,660
of what they vote upon is to have the knowledge as to what they're voting on and what it means.

659
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:11,880
So that was my point to try and provide that information.

660
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,100
And I know when you all put the minutes of your meeting on your website, because I've gone

661
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:19,460
there many times and read what you've all are doing, that would be a great thing for

662
00:48:19,460 --> 00:48:21,640
them to see exactly what it is they're voting on.

663
00:48:21,980 --> 00:48:27,100
And as far as Mr. Summers' point regarding the verbiage of that referendum, I know Mr.

664
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:29,760
Williams, you were talking to our attorney, John Gore, Zach, you've had several

665
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,820
conversations with John.

666
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:36,940
My question to you would be, and I'm not to say anything about the way you wrote

667
00:48:36,940 --> 00:48:41,560
that prior referendum, the verba, John it, but couldn't it be something as simple as,

668
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,240
would you be in favor of video gambling?

669
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:43,900
Yes or no?

670
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,320
Well, to your point.

671
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,080
Yeah, to your point.

672
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,580
The prior one that we were discussing was put on by a resident.

673
00:48:51,820 --> 00:48:53,780
It was not formally legally written.

674
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,360
Oh, okay.

675
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:54,800
I'm sorry.

676
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,380
I thought they told me that you would put that.

677
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:56,820
No.

678
00:48:56,820 --> 00:49:01,880
This question is word and should the bill of Winfield permit video gaming in the build of Winfield to pitch county Illinois?

679
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,760
Yes or no? This one is good. The prior ones we've had have been very confused.

680
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,780
Okay. But they weren't written legally. They were written by a general person.

681
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,220
Okay. All right.

682
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:12,760
I think we know.

683
00:49:13,020 --> 00:49:19,960
So while I'm not sure if I support video gaming in Winfield, my home tonight is about whether or not we'll ask residents about it.

684
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:20,160
Yeah.

685
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,480
And to be fair, I agree with you that people should have the information.

686
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,980
I just don't think it's through the village channels at this point that they should be

687
00:49:27,980 --> 00:49:30,960
getting it, but I do want people to be informed.

688
00:49:31,180 --> 00:49:38,520
And I think what we have from tonight will be started to that, but I think we would have

689
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,020
to do a more holistic presentation if we wanted in the minutes because otherwise it's just

690
00:49:43,020 --> 00:49:43,940
going to be the one side.

691
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,820
But I agree with you in principle.

692
00:49:47,340 --> 00:49:47,560
Okay.

693
00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:48,260
All right.

694
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:48,720
Thank you.

695
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:49,480
Thank you.

696
00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:51,380
Any other questions or comments?

697
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:58,180
And I didn't think about this till just now, and never mind, I'll wait if we get, we'll

698
00:49:58,180 --> 00:49:59,080
see what the residents say.

699
00:49:59,380 --> 00:49:59,500
Okay.

700
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,320
All right.

701
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,720
So I'd like to entertain a motion for approval item number eight.

702
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:07,440
Second.

703
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,440
Trustee Carroll?

704
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:13,240
Abstain.

705
00:50:17,010 --> 00:50:17,830
Trustee Janowick?

706
00:50:18,190 --> 00:50:18,470
Yes.

707
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:19,850
Trustee Jacobs?

708
00:50:20,190 --> 00:50:20,310
Yes.

709
00:50:20,930 --> 00:50:21,830
Trustee Longs?

710
00:50:22,010 --> 00:50:22,230
Yes.

711
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:22,350
Yes.

712
00:50:22,650 --> 00:50:24,890
And because we have the abstention, President Sorgats?

713
00:50:25,130 --> 00:50:25,310
Yes.

714
00:50:27,070 --> 00:50:27,890
Motion passes.

715
00:50:28,430 --> 00:50:39,790
Okay, that brings this up to item number nine, which is an ordinance amending certain provisions of Title 1 of Chapter 6 of the Village of Winfield Code of Ordinance's regarding salaries.

716
00:50:40,510 --> 00:50:42,030
Thank you, Your Honor, I'll take this one.

717
00:50:42,450 --> 00:50:51,410
At the last committee of the whole, we have a thorough discussion of the elected official salaries that have not been updated since the 1990s.

718
00:50:51,410 --> 00:50:56,870
I just took that feedback back with Mr. Freeman and put the attached ordinance together that you have in front of you tonight.

719
00:51:00,190 --> 00:51:06,450
I guess I just offer the comment to remind our residents that this doesn't provide a pay raise for anyone who's sitting in these seats today.

720
00:51:06,610 --> 00:51:08,390
It's only for those who will hold these seats in the future.

721
00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:13,670
So we're not able to vote for a pay raise for ourselves, which I'm glad because that would be pretty uncomfortable.

722
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:21,790
But I also agree that there's a lot of important thoughts around how do you make these seats more accessible to everyone.

723
00:51:21,790 --> 00:51:26,010
And I'm glad that the village is considering that when they make this ordinance.

724
00:51:27,070 --> 00:51:28,510
Any other comments or questions?

725
00:51:29,150 --> 00:51:30,230
I just agree with Dan.

726
00:51:30,730 --> 00:51:31,330
I agree with them.

727
00:51:32,030 --> 00:51:32,230
Okay.

728
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:36,400
They want me to change to the clerk.

729
00:51:36,540 --> 00:51:44,100
Yes, so we are looking at making one change which would be to strike the clerk's salary to zero.

730
00:51:46,940 --> 00:51:53,260
Right now, the reason for that is we have an assistant clerk who is

731
00:51:53,260 --> 00:51:57,200
a staff person at this point and handles all of the clerk's responsibilities.

732
00:51:57,620 --> 00:52:04,780
So at this point, we're not in need of a clerk, so therefore looking forward at this point,

733
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,220
we feel that we just want to put that at zero point.

734
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:18,420
So anyone making the motion, the motion would be to approve the ordinance with an amendment

735
00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:21,260
to delete the reference to the clerk's salary.

736
00:52:21,260 --> 00:52:23,640
But not delete the reference to the clerk.

737
00:52:24,380 --> 00:52:24,580
Correct.

738
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,760
In other words, we'd read the way it currently reads for the treasurer.

739
00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:34,470
Second.

740
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:35,090
Second.

741
00:52:35,810 --> 00:52:36,410
I'm sorry.

742
00:52:36,530 --> 00:52:37,010
Who made the second?

743
00:52:37,570 --> 00:52:37,750
Second.

744
00:52:38,250 --> 00:52:38,430
Okay.

745
00:52:38,590 --> 00:52:38,810
Thank you.

746
00:52:39,690 --> 00:52:40,290
Okay.

747
00:52:41,050 --> 00:52:47,110
So we're voting on item number nine with the amendment as presented by Trustee Jacobs on

748
00:52:47,110 --> 00:52:47,770
that question.

749
00:52:48,090 --> 00:52:48,690
Trustee Carroll?

750
00:52:49,150 --> 00:52:49,490
Yes.

751
00:52:49,930 --> 00:52:50,630
Trustee Jacobs?

752
00:52:51,050 --> 00:52:51,190
Yes.

753
00:52:51,650 --> 00:52:52,510
Trustee Janowick?

754
00:52:52,750 --> 00:52:52,970
Yes.

755
00:52:53,390 --> 00:52:54,210
Trustee Longs?

756
00:52:54,210 --> 00:52:59,210
Yes motion passes as amended if you make that amendment and send it over to me sure

757
00:52:59,890 --> 00:53:04,190
So I don't remember ten authorization to reject the sole bid for the 2026

758
00:53:04,850 --> 00:53:07,950
street crack fill program and our

759
00:53:09,870 --> 00:53:13,850
Public Works director Rahat Barry will do the presentation

760
00:53:13,850 --> 00:53:20,030
Thank you so much. So public works advertise the 2026 street crack filling program on

761
00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:26,810
on August 5th and we opened the bid publicly on August 20th. Unfortunately, there was only

762
00:53:26,810 --> 00:53:34,170
one bid for this project. We expected two because there are only two contractors in the Chicago

763
00:53:34,170 --> 00:53:39,970
land that do the crackfills. So if anybody is looking into getting into business, crackfills

764
00:53:39,970 --> 00:53:40,930
will be a good business.

765
00:53:43,210 --> 00:53:49,510
So I reached out to the sole bidder and I asked him why the prices

766
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:51,430
is much higher than our estimate.

767
00:53:51,950 --> 00:53:54,890
My estimate was based on a project

768
00:53:54,890 --> 00:53:58,610
that I advertised a couple of years ago in 2024.

769
00:53:59,370 --> 00:54:03,070
And I kind of took that and applied a 3% inflation to it

770
00:54:03,070 --> 00:54:04,790
and come up with a unique price.

771
00:54:05,830 --> 00:54:09,030
But he told me that there are a couple of reasons

772
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:16,010
why the bid is kind of high because of the uncertainty

773
00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:17,450
in the market a little bit.

774
00:54:17,610 --> 00:54:19,330
He doesn't know whether the gas prices

775
00:54:19,330 --> 00:54:24,730
or diesel prices will be $7 next month or it's going to be $4 next month.

776
00:54:24,910 --> 00:54:30,610
So they are baking in a little bit of uncertainty, uncertainty in the bid process.

777
00:54:31,330 --> 00:54:37,770
And also since 2024, he said the unit prices have gone up more than 3% inflation that I was

778
00:54:37,770 --> 00:54:38,170
assuming.

779
00:54:38,610 --> 00:54:41,310
So I made a bad assumption on that part.

780
00:54:41,450 --> 00:54:47,390
He said the prices have gone up more than that, prices have gone up more like 30% in last

781
00:54:47,390 --> 00:54:55,630
couple of years. So now it's also more uncertainty to that whole thing. And obviously the another

782
00:54:55,630 --> 00:55:00,870
reason is that there is a what in construction industry they call it a mobilization cost.

783
00:55:01,170 --> 00:55:07,450
So to bring his all equipment, there is a cost to it. He has to low-boit and bring it in.

784
00:55:08,050 --> 00:55:12,790
So he'll lose the day or two in bringing all the equipments. So the smaller the project

785
00:55:12,790 --> 00:55:17,530
is your mobilization cost is kind of like the fixed cost, so you spread it over your

786
00:55:17,530 --> 00:55:24,810
variable cost. So if your contract is small, then your unit price go up. The last time

787
00:55:24,810 --> 00:55:30,770
when I did this project two years ago, that project was about $150,000, so mobilization

788
00:55:30,770 --> 00:55:37,190
cost could be spread over $150,000. In this case, it was getting spread over $50,000, so

789
00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:39,110
our unit prices were kind of high too.

790
00:55:40,850 --> 00:55:45,530
So he told me obviously the things that we probably know

791
00:55:45,530 --> 00:55:46,990
that if we had a bigger contract,

792
00:55:47,390 --> 00:55:49,950
our unit prices will come down a little bit.

793
00:55:50,450 --> 00:55:54,170
And he also made a suggestion which sometimes it works out

794
00:55:54,170 --> 00:55:57,750
that go early in the season, like go in March April

795
00:55:57,750 --> 00:56:01,490
because they are at that time trying to book the work

796
00:56:01,490 --> 00:56:02,150
for their year.

797
00:56:02,570 --> 00:56:04,930
So they are aggressive at that point.

798
00:56:04,930 --> 00:56:10,030
you know, in August, they're like, you know, we have my bread and butter and I will take

799
00:56:10,030 --> 00:56:15,910
it if I get the mayonnaise, you know, so it's kind of workout that way too, a little bit.

800
00:56:16,790 --> 00:56:23,090
So with all that information, there are three options that you have. One is reject the

801
00:56:23,090 --> 00:56:29,890
bit, so do nothing about it. Second option is, and that's a discussion I had with the contractor.

802
00:56:29,890 --> 00:56:37,410
We could reduce the number of streets, the number of units, if you want to say, and cap it at 50,000.

803
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:38,910
So I will work with the contractor.

804
00:56:39,550 --> 00:56:41,570
You will have worked the project. I will work with him.

805
00:56:42,270 --> 00:56:47,510
And I will stop him. You know, we'll choose street and say $50,000, you are done.

806
00:56:48,030 --> 00:56:49,710
Go home. So that's the option.

807
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:55,430
And third option is, and I'm trying to remember, there are so many things in my head.

808
00:56:55,430 --> 00:57:03,090
But third option is what is kind of it goes into a little bit detail is you reject the

809
00:57:03,090 --> 00:57:10,730
bid now and we go out in 2027, March, April, we bid it out for $100,000.

810
00:57:11,010 --> 00:57:13,650
So we will not do anything with the $50,000 this year.

811
00:57:14,110 --> 00:57:18,390
Board kind of agreed that $50,000 each year is a good number.

812
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:25,430
So we will change that to $100,000 every other year and build it out in March, April.

813
00:57:25,850 --> 00:57:30,950
So we get a bigger project can cover more streets.

814
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:36,330
At some point, and I had it in my previous employment, that you are in that three-year cycle.

815
00:57:36,590 --> 00:57:43,110
So you catch up with the street, and maybe like 10 years or 15 years, you will catch up

816
00:57:43,110 --> 00:57:47,910
with all the street at some point, then you could go back to a three-year cycle or something

817
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:53,870
like that, but because we have not done crack fill for a while, we need to get started on

818
00:57:53,870 --> 00:57:59,230
it, getting started is always kind of difficult, and then once we get started, we stay on

819
00:57:59,230 --> 00:58:05,610
that every other year, and then in 10 to 15 years, if we catch up, then we can re-assess

820
00:58:05,610 --> 00:58:06,830
and say what we want to do.

821
00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:15,950
So just on a percentage basis, 100,000, how much as a percentage of the streets to get

822
00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:17,990
crack filled with that cover about?

823
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:21,770
I don't have that number in front of me,

824
00:58:23,230 --> 00:58:27,630
but what I was, so $89,000 that he proposed,

825
00:58:28,050 --> 00:58:31,470
I was crack filling, everything that was resurfaced,

826
00:58:31,970 --> 00:58:34,210
up until last year, 2017.

827
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:39,550
So if I took all the 2017 to 2025 state,

828
00:58:40,030 --> 00:58:42,930
we could do it for $89,000 that he paid.

829
00:58:43,250 --> 00:58:44,910
So you could cover quite a bit.

830
00:58:44,910 --> 00:58:50,390
But again, if you are in every three years, you are going to go back and re-crack fill those.

831
00:58:51,550 --> 00:58:55,930
So you are catching what ADS about or so to 2025 to.

832
00:58:56,430 --> 00:59:04,330
So if you think about our resurfacing cycle is every 20 years, so every three years you

833
00:59:04,330 --> 00:59:05,930
do one thought of it, right?

834
00:59:06,450 --> 00:59:09,390
So in 10 years, you're kind of going back and doing it again.

835
00:59:09,890 --> 00:59:10,010
Okay.

836
00:59:10,810 --> 00:59:11,010
All right.

837
00:59:11,470 --> 00:59:12,130
Any other questions?

838
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:20,100
all right so I have a question yeah I mean what do you recommend my

839
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:25,140
recommend is reject the bit that's what I wrote in the memo but but what's the

840
00:59:25,140 --> 00:59:31,080
what's the severity of you know of the issue right now whereas should we get

841
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,900
started are there are there are the items or areas that are in dire need of it and

842
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:41,220
if we push it back another year so I mean and so from my driving around all the

843
00:59:41,220 --> 00:59:49,760
streets, there are not many streets that, don't take it otherwise, we will get help from

844
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:56,800
the crackfiller this time, except the ones that we recently resurfaced, like 2021-2025.

845
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,880
Those four years are probably going to be helpful.

846
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,860
But before that, those streets are deteriorating in such such pace that I don't think it is needed or if we defer it a year, it's going to be that harmful. We need more resurfacing now. There are a lot of streets that are what we call is weathering like they're losing the gravel on the top. We can see it's getting rough and they are developing potholes. So we need to resurface more streets.

847
01:00:29,860 --> 01:00:34,700
than crack-filling. Now, I'm not discounting that crack-fills need it, but at least

848
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:36,280
surfacing is where we need to purchase.

849
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,560
Okay, so a lot of focus.

850
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:38,660
Focus on.

851
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:45,520
And your patching program has at least addressed it from the standpoint of kind of pushing

852
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:46,640
those needs on board.

853
01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:47,500
Yes, exactly.

854
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,080
Yeah, and we have spent quite a bit of money in patching this year, so if taken care of

855
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:58,640
any holes, or most of the holes, I would say, that are in the village, so we should be good,

856
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:05,600
But like we discussed, I want to have a real aggressive resurfacing program next year and

857
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:11,200
year after, once we get going with that, it will get easier for us.

858
01:01:13,460 --> 01:01:19,680
Okay, so overhats recommendation is to reject the bid, so can we entertain a motion to approve that?

859
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:20,580
So moved.

860
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:25,660
Trustee Longs?

861
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:26,160
Yes.

862
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,220
Trustee Janowick?

863
01:01:27,460 --> 01:01:27,620
Yes.

864
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:28,600
Trustee Jacobs?

865
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:29,100
Yes.

866
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,080
And Trustee Carroll?

867
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:30,480
Yes.

868
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:30,600
Yes.

869
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,260
Motion is approved to reject the bid.

870
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,060
Thank you.

871
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:38,240
So round item number 11, Trustee Comments and Committee Reports, do we have any trusty comments?

872
01:01:38,940 --> 01:01:39,180
Tonight.

873
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,440
I'll make a comment.

874
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:50,660
This evening with the Klein Creek residents showing up, it was good to see it's there expressing the concerns regarding the golf course.

875
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:55,320
My only question I have is I don't know if we can answer it tonight or not.

876
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,220
Is some of those ordnance violations correct?

877
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,840
And do we follow the ones that she was stating?

878
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:02,800
Is that whether to correct ordinances?

879
01:02:03,460 --> 01:02:06,100
So what she presented tonight was a appears

880
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:11,280
to be a Google AI answer, which polls

881
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,040
from legitimate sources, but sometimes can hallucinate.

882
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,440
So yes and no.

883
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,060
Those are probably our ordinances.

884
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,320
I don't discount on them.

885
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,340
I need to go back and double check.

886
01:02:21,340 --> 01:02:24,480
In fact, Peter knows this in code enforcement.

887
01:02:26,990 --> 01:02:31,370
The devil's in the details on what is the health risk.

888
01:02:33,110 --> 01:02:37,890
Would they feel it may be a health risk, may not be determined to be a health risk by

889
01:02:37,890 --> 01:02:38,450
code enforcement?

890
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:45,990
So can you get back to us to trust these regarding what you look into what they presented to

891
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:52,330
see if that's corrected or not some of those violations or that's just like an AI thing

892
01:02:53,570 --> 01:02:55,830
Again, it looks like it was pulling from our ordinances.

893
01:02:56,070 --> 01:02:58,930
I don't want to say, I'm not just going to brush her off and say she's wrong.

894
01:03:00,070 --> 01:03:01,270
So it's probably accurate.

895
01:03:02,650 --> 01:03:06,690
It's the interpretation of the code that is a challenge.

896
01:03:07,570 --> 01:03:11,410
We have to do a balance between, we're not the pretty police, we're code enforcement.

897
01:03:11,650 --> 01:03:13,430
So we're here to protect the health safety and welfare.

898
01:03:14,930 --> 01:03:18,550
And you know, it's, you've probably termed foul odors several times.

899
01:03:20,550 --> 01:03:23,430
That's not really a quantifiable thing.

900
01:03:25,330 --> 01:03:29,450
Well, I appreciate, you know, I brought this topic up to the village.

901
01:03:30,110 --> 01:03:31,970
And I know they've been working.

902
01:03:31,990 --> 01:03:36,130
I just want to tell the public that they've been working behind the scenes talking to the golf courts.

903
01:03:37,050 --> 01:03:41,550
And I know Evan's been talking to the owners and stuff.

904
01:03:41,650 --> 01:03:44,130
So I appreciate all the work you guys have been doing behind the scenes.

905
01:03:44,610 --> 01:03:47,990
Unfortunately, we don't, as of right now, we don't have an answer resolution.

906
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:50,690
resolution, but I know we're working towards one.

907
01:03:50,910 --> 01:03:51,330
So thank you.

908
01:03:51,470 --> 01:03:53,890
I will say ownership has been responsive and getting back

909
01:03:53,890 --> 01:03:54,370
to us.

910
01:03:54,530 --> 01:03:58,670
I did share a report that they recently commissioned.

911
01:04:00,290 --> 01:04:03,190
The other challenge is, what is a weed?

912
01:04:03,810 --> 01:04:04,710
Peter went out there.

913
01:04:05,410 --> 01:04:07,190
There is a lot of prairie grass, which

914
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:10,490
that could appear overgrown, but it is prairie grass.

915
01:04:10,670 --> 01:04:12,630
Now does the prairie grass have some weeds in it?

916
01:04:12,990 --> 01:04:13,250
Yes.

917
01:04:13,550 --> 01:04:16,870
But go to my lawn and my house, and I also

918
01:04:16,870 --> 01:04:22,570
have weeds in my lawn. So there has to be a balance there between what is, does it

919
01:04:22,570 --> 01:04:23,150
has to be a balance?

920
01:04:24,190 --> 01:04:29,850
I think the other aspect of the letter that I sent out to everybody today, certainly

921
01:04:29,850 --> 01:04:37,190
from a company that does ecological consulting, landscape architecture, land planning, who

922
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:45,830
has the expertise in this area, even from defining a weed versus a plant, a pollinator, plant

923
01:04:45,830 --> 01:04:56,110
versus a weed, and then we get into this aesthetic issue again versus, again, what's the

924
01:04:56,110 --> 01:05:04,550
interpretation, you know, relative to an individual versus, you know, what experts in the industry

925
01:05:04,550 --> 01:05:11,230
say relative to that. So I will say Peter was up there with his Google image, taking pictures

926
01:05:11,230 --> 01:05:13,410
of plants and the time to determine if they're wheat or not.

927
01:05:13,710 --> 01:05:16,250
So you are using technology in our food enforcement.

928
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:20,390
But the other thing is, so some of these are trees that have fallen

929
01:05:20,390 --> 01:05:23,590
down and stuff like that, are just people getting around to?

930
01:05:23,630 --> 01:05:26,310
So yeah, they had, I think it was 200 trees

931
01:05:26,310 --> 01:05:27,790
were damaged in the storms of a Klein Creek.

932
01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:31,170
Yes, those trees are damaged, but they appear

933
01:05:31,170 --> 01:05:32,250
to be hanging over a pond.

934
01:05:32,250 --> 01:05:35,590
So they're not posing a risk to public health at this point.

935
01:05:37,010 --> 01:05:38,850
If you go talk to the forest preserve,

936
01:05:39,250 --> 01:05:40,970
the forest preserve doesn't want you removing trees

937
01:05:40,970 --> 01:05:43,650
because dead trees are habitat for animals.

938
01:05:43,970 --> 01:05:46,730
So there's a whole spectrum of what's on here.

939
01:05:47,190 --> 01:05:50,470
And if it's not posing a direct hazard to a human,

940
01:05:50,830 --> 01:05:51,810
we're not going to go beat them up.

941
01:05:51,890 --> 01:05:53,090
That's where we did send a letter saying,

942
01:05:53,210 --> 01:05:53,990
hey, we have some concerns.

943
01:05:54,410 --> 01:05:55,390
They got back to us quickly.

944
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:57,630
They do seem to be responsive to us.

945
01:05:58,030 --> 01:06:00,050
They have indicated they've sprayed the ponds.

946
01:06:00,910 --> 01:06:03,370
These ponds tend to be more problematic than the other ponds.

947
01:06:03,450 --> 01:06:05,230
If you notice, we're only talking about two ponds up there.

948
01:06:05,630 --> 01:06:07,550
So somehow the other ponds are working.

949
01:06:08,190 --> 01:06:09,310
So it's a challenge.

950
01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:13,290
We're working on it, they're responsive, we're going to stay on them.

951
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:17,830
I do think a lot of this is going to resolve itself, as Paul comes in, right now it's hot.

952
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:19,410
I'll do like hot weather.

953
01:06:20,110 --> 01:06:22,710
We've had a lot of rain, as temperature is cooled down.

954
01:06:22,890 --> 01:06:23,670
I'll do you a little bit back.

955
01:06:28,090 --> 01:06:29,850
Any other trusty comments today?

956
01:06:30,130 --> 01:06:33,150
I guess I was wondering from Harold, do you know like...

957
01:06:33,790 --> 01:06:38,950
I guess I was surprised that they came all individually as opposed to your HLA.

958
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:45,850
I assume they worked with the H.O.A. already or have they been just going to the golf course

959
01:06:45,850 --> 01:06:47,350
previously as individuals?

960
01:06:48,610 --> 01:06:53,130
As far as I know, it's not an H.O.A. issue, per se, because...

961
01:06:53,130 --> 01:06:53,430
I know that.

962
01:06:53,570 --> 01:06:54,850
I know it's not their responsibility.

963
01:06:55,070 --> 01:06:59,470
What I just meant was that the H.O.A. could be one embodying group.

964
01:07:00,310 --> 01:07:05,150
And I guess I know we've had this issue before in Client Creek or other issues related.

965
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:07,210
So I was just wondering if the...

966
01:07:07,210 --> 01:07:13,450
The H.O.A. has reached out to the Gulf Coast too, so they've been in contact.

967
01:07:13,730 --> 01:07:20,610
I spoke to the H.O.A. President recently, and she says that she's been in contact with

968
01:07:20,610 --> 01:07:21,050
them too.

969
01:07:22,930 --> 01:07:24,550
And as you know, I'm sorry, go ahead.

970
01:07:24,570 --> 01:07:28,890
So there's been, like I said, there's been a lot of conversation going on behind the scenes,

971
01:07:28,890 --> 01:07:31,470
trying to get a resolution to this issue.

972
01:07:31,470 --> 01:07:31,770
So.

973
01:07:32,330 --> 01:07:38,050
And as the first speaker noted, there were numerous different agencies that had been

974
01:07:38,050 --> 01:07:45,490
on site, including Open Lands, which, according to what I've heard from the ownership over

975
01:07:45,490 --> 01:07:49,590
there, that Open Lands gave them a rating currently.

976
01:07:49,950 --> 01:07:55,070
So DuPage County's been out there, among the others that she mentioned, and none of them

977
01:07:55,070 --> 01:08:02,110
have looked at these issues and said they require specific and clear cut remediation.

978
01:08:02,890 --> 01:08:11,190
So, before we moved into windfield, we lived on a municipal lake, Europe, much bigger

979
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:13,050
than what you'd see in a golf course and stuff like that.

980
01:08:13,710 --> 01:08:17,990
And unfortunately, the algae was just something we had to live with, depending on the weather

981
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:23,790
and the heat and the, you know, and the smell or the irritations and stuff like that.

982
01:08:23,790 --> 01:08:26,550
there's so many ice benefits of living on water,

983
01:08:26,790 --> 01:08:29,190
but there's also stuff you can't control.

984
01:08:30,110 --> 01:08:31,210
So that's, I mean, I'm looking at this.

985
01:08:31,370 --> 01:08:33,190
I'm like, boy, I wish we could just air raid

986
01:08:33,190 --> 01:08:34,330
and but that's not her.

987
01:08:34,730 --> 01:08:35,590
We can't do that, right?

988
01:08:36,410 --> 01:08:39,550
So it's just inherent, unfortunately, sometimes.

989
01:08:40,010 --> 01:08:42,210
So that's why I was asking about the trees

990
01:08:42,210 --> 01:08:45,110
and the, is the, some of it blocking

991
01:08:45,550 --> 01:08:47,010
so in the movement of the water,

992
01:08:47,210 --> 01:08:49,350
they were insinuating or implying that there was

993
01:08:49,350 --> 01:08:52,310
a blockage and that's kind of why I was wondering, you know.

994
01:08:52,310 --> 01:08:57,310
The one hole that they specifically mentioned, the trees are in the water, but they're not

995
01:08:57,310 --> 01:08:57,730
black.

996
01:08:58,030 --> 01:09:00,710
They're away from any of the drainage areas.

997
01:09:02,370 --> 01:09:09,710
And so the tree is like pretty close to the water and the branches from the storm have

998
01:09:09,710 --> 01:09:10,970
just leaned into the water.

999
01:09:11,490 --> 01:09:15,550
They're not leaning into the property owner from what I could see and I actually took a

1000
01:09:15,550 --> 01:09:16,570
couple of pictures of it too.

1001
01:09:17,210 --> 01:09:21,270
It's worth noting I can't verify it, but the golf course does point to being a fingerback

1002
01:09:21,270 --> 01:09:26,230
the residents claim and they claim, I don't know this, that the residents landscape where they're

1003
01:09:26,230 --> 01:09:29,610
dumping landscape waste into the pond, which would possess it.

1004
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:33,530
Which is where the H.O.A. should be.

1005
01:09:34,430 --> 01:09:37,650
Because they're at the one side. Right. They're right. They're right out there.

1006
01:09:40,570 --> 01:09:46,760
I think it's no cycle. I think it's just that they just want

1007
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:51,660
resolution and they don't know who to go to. So they're just trying to use any any which is fine.

1008
01:09:51,660 --> 01:09:52,540
And that's what we should do.

1009
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,440
And so the best thing we can do is be empathetic

1010
01:09:55,440 --> 01:10:00,520
and understand that, though it may be reasonable in scientific

1011
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,060
terms, we don't live there, so we're here.

1012
01:10:05,980 --> 01:10:09,080
But so we can be empathetic and we can just keep trying

1013
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,060
to stay on the owner as we know this is a continued thing.

1014
01:10:13,460 --> 01:10:15,200
And staying on top of them is something we can do.

1015
01:10:15,380 --> 01:10:16,340
That's all we can do.

1016
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:19,360
It is important to point out we do not have anything

1017
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,060
on the books that controls algae or duckweed or anything like that.

1018
01:10:26,180 --> 01:10:30,000
So if you guys told me to write the ticket, I wouldn't have anything right to take it on right now.

1019
01:10:30,540 --> 01:10:32,800
It sounds like all we're doing is really in here.

1020
01:10:33,060 --> 01:10:40,260
No, you're fine. I was going to tie a couple together and say I trustee Carolyn, I had the opportunity.

1021
01:10:40,260 --> 01:10:45,460
I was going to thank the Winfield Foundation for their golf outing at Clank Creek this past week.

1022
01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:50,240
And there was, I did notice some stagnant water as trustee carols balls didn't splash

1023
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:50,960
when they landed.

1024
01:10:52,140 --> 01:11:02,400
Maybe it was mine, it's hard to remember, but I do hope we, as I know we will take that, I know there's the aspect or the position we could take as you live near a lake and a golf course.

1025
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:14,820
These aren't things we can control, but I think there are some legitimate concerns and I know that the staff is looking into it, and I trust that you will update us on that, but thank you to the Winfield Foundation for all the work that they do in the community.

1026
01:11:15,260 --> 01:11:22,520
And then I also wanted to ask it for a future agenda item, and while I make it some snarls from the crowd here,

1027
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:29,820
I think we should probably do some work to get ahead of and provide some transparent information on the village of Winfield's use of flat cameras.

1028
01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:34,100
Because it's going to come up, we'll have a crowd here just like we did tonight.

1029
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:39,800
So if there's a way we can just present how Winfield's uses it, what are our policies to make sure it's used appropriately.

1030
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:57,900
It's not a pressing issue for the chief to prepare a report, but it is something that has come up in every single surrounding community, sometimes in very negative ways, and so I think it benefits us to present information on what we do, why we do it, and how we control it.

1031
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:20,820
You bring up a good point, in fact, that probably would be one question we could ask the chief as far as if there was a violation of use of the flock camera database, what provisions do we have in terms of our policy to take immediate action on anyone who happens to violate that policy?

1032
01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:23,140
That's a very valid question.

1033
01:12:23,420 --> 01:12:25,720
Unfortunately, there's not a single answer

1034
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,960
because there's both internal policy violations

1035
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,140
and external policy violations when it comes to flock.

1036
01:12:33,740 --> 01:12:38,700
Our contract with flock restricts the information generated

1037
01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:42,220
from our cameras to only law enforcement agencies

1038
01:12:42,220 --> 01:12:45,200
within the state of Illinois, whereas others

1039
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,060
are many of the ones that are being compelling

1040
01:12:47,060 --> 01:12:48,940
about our nationwide.

1041
01:12:48,940 --> 01:12:53,600
So that's the first thing, we do not share outside of the state.

1042
01:12:54,220 --> 01:13:01,500
The second thing is, anybody that we share our information with is required by the system

1043
01:13:01,500 --> 01:13:08,440
to provide a case number, the type of offense they're investigating, and who is the primary

1044
01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:09,920
person making the request.

1045
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:17,420
That all shows up on an audit form that we review every two weeks, whether it be internal

1046
01:13:17,420 --> 01:13:26,080
or external. Our policy internally requires you have our officers to have a valid law enforcement

1047
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:34,560
purpose for looking at flock, or for entering a vehicle to be watched by flock. So in

1048
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:40,540
other words, if someone is suspected of committing a crime and we want to locate that vehicle,

1049
01:13:40,540 --> 01:13:45,920
We can put a tag on that license plate and when it is seen, it will tell us when and where.

1050
01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:51,620
We again require a valid lawful purpose to do that.

1051
01:13:52,180 --> 01:13:55,360
We review those logs every two weeks internally.

1052
01:13:55,940 --> 01:14:02,420
We have not seen any violation either internally or externally within the state of our data.

1053
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:09,980
If we see a violation externally, we will remove their ability to see our cameras period

1054
01:14:09,980 --> 01:14:15,980
end of story. If we see one internally there will of course be an investigation that's conducted

1055
01:14:15,980 --> 01:14:21,000
to ensure that we are right. They did it for not for a lawful law enforcement purpose.

1056
01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:27,000
And then there will be appropriate consequences based on the severity of whatever they did with

1057
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:33,940
that information. Does that answer the question placed tonight? Yeah and maybe you want to mention

1058
01:14:33,940 --> 01:14:37,400
about the car jacking situation that we were able to sell?

1059
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,780
The Village Manager and I have had a number of conversations recently.

1060
01:14:41,940 --> 01:14:47,400
One of the conversations included, we are tacitly not writing down.

1061
01:14:47,540 --> 01:14:54,600
We are tacitly keeping track of some of what we would consider victories that flock has

1062
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:55,780
provided for us.

1063
01:14:55,780 --> 01:14:59,980
I feel reluctant to...

1064
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,100
You make a list because we don't pet ourselves on the back for doing our job, it's what you

1065
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:09,240
pass for. But there was one significant one just in the last week where there was a card

1066
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:14,760
jacking in King County. The card jacker indicated that they had a handgun, which is what made

1067
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:19,820
the owner of the vehicle exit the vehicle and give up their car so readily. That vehicle was

1068
01:15:19,820 --> 01:15:27,820
in fact entered into flock by King County. That alarm triggered in our area as the vehicle

1069
01:15:27,820 --> 01:15:34,460
on Route 38. One of our officers, I will point out for the record

1070
01:15:34,460 --> 01:15:38,800
of anybody watching. One of our newer, most new officers, Officer Barry,

1071
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:46,120
received that response, moved in position, located the vehicle traveling

1072
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,580
eastbound, moved in position behind him, called for backup, waited for that backup

1073
01:15:49,580 --> 01:15:54,560
to ride, conducted a felony stop in the lot of the target parking lot,

1074
01:15:55,420 --> 01:16:01,740
That successfully exited that subject from the vehicle, took him into custody, and turned

1075
01:16:01,740 --> 01:16:04,860
him and the vehicle over to the King County Sheriff's Office.

1076
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:12,060
So that is the most recent of several positive results from flat cameras here in Wendfield.

1077
01:16:12,440 --> 01:16:13,500
It is a force multiplier.

1078
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:20,420
And so that I guess that is good information, and I hope we consider it as an agenda item

1079
01:16:20,420 --> 01:16:24,120
in the future to provide more information that would give the public.

1080
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:29,540
the opportunity to tune in for it as opposed to catch the last few minutes.

1081
01:16:29,540 --> 01:16:34,500
Yeah, I would be happy to present as soon as there's a room on the agenda.

1082
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,200
Not in numbers, you can see it anyway, just be happy to.

1083
01:16:37,420 --> 01:16:46,200
And I know that Flock is obviously, and I know there's some other companies besides Flock I from what I've heard, but Flock.

1084
01:16:46,620 --> 01:16:47,680
Exxon does it as well.

1085
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,300
Exxon too, okay, but in Illinois it's pretty much Flock, right?

1086
01:16:50,300 --> 01:16:54,480
pretty much right now flak is is the market axons moving in

1087
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,940
So but yeah, flak is the it's almost become the generic name like band-aid

1088
01:16:59,940 --> 01:17:05,580
Yeah, and I from what you know, I'm seeing out there. I know Florida is looking at some legislation

1089
01:17:06,740 --> 01:17:11,940
to ensure that the providers like a flak company has the proper

1090
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:19,940
You know software involved to if there is misuse that it's brought to the forefront

1091
01:17:19,940 --> 01:17:25,240
and pretty quickly, so I think that's direction that certainly needs to go.

1092
01:17:26,140 --> 01:17:31,780
And then if there are any individuals that use it for the various purposes that they're

1093
01:17:31,780 --> 01:17:39,100
dealt with and terminated from any position with regards to a police department or so on.

1094
01:17:39,740 --> 01:17:47,780
So from that perspective, I see that the heightened awareness of the cameras, as I guess push

1095
01:17:47,780 --> 01:17:52,760
I wish these companies to be better at providing the kind of information and safeguards.

1096
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:58,780
If it please, Mr. President, I don't want to prolong the conversation if the board is not interested.

1097
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:06,100
But I would point out that one of the reasons this is happening is because of the media covering

1098
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:10,080
the officers who have lost their jobs for improperly using flock.

1099
01:18:11,620 --> 01:18:17,640
While I'm not going to pine upon those things because I'm not familiar with the individual cases.

1100
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:24,780
There are a number of officers who have literally been fired for using this data point incorrectly.

1101
01:18:25,940 --> 01:18:30,620
In Illinois, it's very difficult as this board knows from previous conversations, both in

1102
01:18:30,620 --> 01:18:31,560
open and closed session.

1103
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,800
It's very difficult to fire a police officer.

1104
01:18:34,580 --> 01:18:36,040
These officers are getting fired.

1105
01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:39,980
The policies of almost every department requires an investigation.

1106
01:18:40,620 --> 01:18:45,200
An investigation does not require the termination of an officer, yet that is what's been happening.

1107
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:51,920
planning. It's being taken very seriously. It's just not being recognized as such by those

1108
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:58,280
who are choosing to make these statements, these public statements about the flat camera

1109
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:07,880
system. So I would point that out for consideration as well as the fact that if you are not doing

1110
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:13,160
anything illegal and I don't mean you, I mean the royal you, you really have nothing to worry

1111
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:18,100
about. Cameras are everywhere in our society and in Illinois I can't speak to the whole country

1112
01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:23,000
because that's not my purview but in Illinois it is legal for any one of us to stand on any

1113
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:28,960
street corner and tape everything we see so why wouldn't we use that to our advantage to protect

1114
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:35,080
the people who are not breaking the rules just one one item for consideration. Yeah well not only

1115
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:39,680
that your door you know a lot of doorbell cameras that are exactly and some of those are even used

1116
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,400
in terms of apprehending, you know, individuals

1117
01:19:43,900 --> 01:19:45,500
by sharing that information with colleagues.

1118
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:46,020
So yeah.

1119
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,700
And if we feel great about our policies,

1120
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,500
then we should feel great about transparency.

1121
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:51,580
That's my point.

1122
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,760
It's not accusatory of the police department.

1123
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,500
And I think chief knows I think there is just

1124
01:19:56,500 --> 01:20:00,960
a good conversation to be had about not just local police

1125
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,580
department use of information that's collected.

1126
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,840
It is private corporation collection

1127
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,820
and how they use it.

1128
01:20:07,260 --> 01:20:08,580
Who do they share it with?

1129
01:20:08,580 --> 01:20:12,780
even if I think there's lots of good questions that are worth us I think we've

1130
01:20:12,780 --> 01:20:16,900
you know maybe indicated already it is worth a discussion because because

1131
01:20:16,900 --> 01:20:22,180
we're still and I'd be happy to cover those things because they are covered in

1132
01:20:22,180 --> 01:20:27,380
our contract with flock and for anybody who is watching at home right now at this

1133
01:20:27,380 --> 01:20:30,760
very moment you can go on to the village website you can go to the police tab you

1134
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,740
can pull up our policy and procedure manual and you will find something for the

1135
01:20:34,740 --> 01:20:40,820
fly cameras that details exactly how they are to be used and what the consequences are

1136
01:20:40,820 --> 01:20:45,700
if you use them incorrectly. So that is all available right now, but I'll be happy

1137
01:20:45,700 --> 01:20:52,020
to come up and talk about it. All right, all right. Thank you, Chief. Okay, so that

1138
01:20:52,020 --> 01:20:57,480
moves to the finalist. There's any other trusty comments? Okay, I don't see any, so I'm going

1139
01:20:57,480 --> 01:21:02,760
to move on to item number 12 village. Officials comments and reports and that brings my comments

1140
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:13,680
I want to personally thank Public Works Department and Rahat for your group that had done a fantastic job over the summer months with our summer concert series.

1141
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:21,740
Also with the Winfield criteria in summer fest and I know coming up just this coming, is it this weekend already?

1142
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:29,220
Yeah, next weekend, next weekend, for good old days and then of course in December we'll have the winter wonderful fest.

1143
01:21:29,220 --> 01:21:32,140
So you guys do a great job.

1144
01:21:32,620 --> 01:21:39,960
I did pass that on to our public works of supervisor, so that he was aware of that.

1145
01:21:40,300 --> 01:21:47,220
And but I just want to make sure that publicly all of our residents understand that we can't

1146
01:21:47,220 --> 01:21:56,500
do these kind of events without public works and how public works goes far above the normal

1147
01:21:56,500 --> 01:22:26,480
a normal process to be able to get these things accomplished, so that we can offer to our residents these wonderful opportunities to enjoy the village of Winfield and things go very smoothly because of our public works department, but also our police department to ensure that safety for all of the attendees of these events is well taken care of, and they can come to these events feeling 100% safe and enjoy themselves at all of these events.

1148
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:28,620
of functions that we provide for the community.

1149
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:30,800
So thank you for public works.

1150
01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:33,180
Thank you to our police department very much.

1151
01:22:33,740 --> 01:22:36,480
And we look forward to continuing to bring these kind

1152
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:38,640
of events to the community so they can enjoy them too.

1153
01:22:41,660 --> 01:22:45,420
So, oh, yes, one other thing, this September.

1154
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,020
We're going to get back on track with the coffee

1155
01:22:50,020 --> 01:22:51,500
with the president and village manager.

1156
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,200
I think it was on the 19th, correct?

1157
01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:54,640
Yes.

1158
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,960
Saturday the 19th, starting at nine o'clock to 11 o'clock.

1159
01:22:58,260 --> 01:23:02,920
So those of you that might still be listening tonight, we'll put some about social media too.

1160
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:10,540
So I'll be happy to talk to any of our residents that have any questions or just want to get updates on what is going on in Winfield today.

1161
01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:15,920
So that's going to be Saturday, September 19th at 9 a.m., so hope to see you there.

1162
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,660
And that's all I have for report village attorney.

1163
01:23:19,380 --> 01:23:20,880
I have nothing tonight, thank you, sir.

1164
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,620
Thank you, village manager.

1165
01:23:22,620 --> 01:23:24,620
I'll just reiterate your comments on public work.

1166
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:26,940
I've worked in towns much larger than the Winfield,

1167
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,560
but I've not received so many compliments from the resident.

1168
01:23:29,820 --> 01:23:31,700
Just today, we had another resident who's just called

1169
01:23:31,700 --> 01:23:33,840
in front of us to say how great our public work was.

1170
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,520
So we relayed that back to Rahat and his team.

1171
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,440
It's what the residents feel the same way.

1172
01:23:40,260 --> 01:23:41,000
Great, but nothing else.

1173
01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:45,740
Okay, let's see, not this time, next time.

1174
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,220
So we're on to item number 13,

1175
01:23:49,820 --> 01:23:51,420
adjournment, can I have a motion to adjourn?

1176
01:24:01,470 --> 01:24:05,830
We have nothing per their exact, so we're joining the meeting.

1177
01:24:06,130 --> 01:24:07,470
Okay, just need a voice vote.

1178
01:24:08,350 --> 01:24:10,130
All right, all right.

1179
01:24:10,610 --> 01:24:11,490
We are adjourned.

1180
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:12,010
We are adjourned.

1181
01:24:12,130 --> 01:24:12,190
We are adjourned.

1182
01:24:12,230 --> 01:24:12,510
24.

1183
01:24:14,230 --> 01:24:15,450
Thank you, Winfield.

1184
01:24:15,790 --> 01:24:19,350
Enjoy your evening and especially this weekend coming up as Labor Day weekend.

1185
01:24:19,690 --> 01:24:23,530
So have a wonderful weekend and let's hope for a little cooler weather.

1186
01:24:24,450 --> 01:24:24,710
Take care.

1187
01:24:24,890 --> 01:24:25,370
Have a good night.