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[0:02] Okay, cross meeting to work.
[0:04] Oh, it's a 1996 project.
[0:06] Thank you.
[0:06] Thank you.
[0:07] I do.
[0:08] Okay.
[0:09] Some more of the minutes.
[0:10] Right.
[0:11] Right.
[0:11] Some others.
[0:12] Yeah.
[0:13] Yeah.
[0:13] So I think his dog is here.
[0:15] So move.
[0:16] Second.
[0:19] All in favor say aye.
[0:20] Aye.
[0:21] Those may.
[0:22] Thank you.
[0:24] Public comments.
[0:24] Further jurisdiction.
[0:26] Good evening.
[0:27] Somebody took the function.
[0:29] We'd like to speak.
[0:34] So, good evening everyone, Michael Dost, I am Judge Electoperant 1, so I'm not yet a part of being here officially, but I figured since this is typically the Branch 1 time to come in July and come on there we have.
[0:51] So, I'm just here to bring the judicial perspective to many questions right now.
[0:57] Excellent, thank you.
[0:58] Thank you.
[1:01] Anything else?
[1:03] Thank you.
[1:04] Thank you.
[1:05] Thank you.
[1:06] Communications.
[1:07] Be sure by the community members.
[1:15] Great.
[1:15] Share report.
[1:16] I don't have anything else to say.
[1:18] Thank you for coming.
[1:19] I'm going to be able to.
[1:20] I look forward to July.
[1:21] Good for.
[1:22] The share is going to be down.
[1:24] You can call it out.
[1:25] On the fourth.
[1:27] On the eighth.
[1:28] A and.
[1:31] In the Declaration of Independence.
[1:32] If you have a chance to get there.
[1:35] That's.
[1:35] I don't need the presentation.
[1:38] So that's what I have to do.
[1:41] Business items.
[1:44] District attorney, sorry.
[1:50] Thank you.
[1:52] So a couple of cases to update on,
[1:54] I think some of them I talked about before,
[1:56] but I guess one that everybody's talking about before
[1:59] that the wind and wind trial happened.
[2:02] So that was one and I don't know.
[2:05] Okay, just say too much about it.
[2:06] of the Senate, and more of a couple of other agencies,
[2:09] on-person agencies, and also the Department of Justice
[2:11] did the press push on that, as that investigation was starting.
[2:16] It started to feel like a conflict,
[2:18] so we had sent that out, and conflicts on happen too often.
[2:21] So usually, G is officers, stick to their own counties, cases,
[2:25] and we don't overlap too much with other counties.
[2:27] If it was a conflict, or even a perceived conflict,
[2:31] that's the situation where a county would try to send a case
[2:33] out to recruit somebody else to be involved, department justice does have a couple of traffic resource
[2:37] prosecutors that got involved in that case. So they had handled the prosecution. We did have
[2:42] our victim with a statement that wasn't involved with that, so they were using our offices and
[2:45] that trial went on. It wasn't a pretty lengthy trial, so it was one also that potentially some strain on
[2:51] the courthouse and court security. First week of that trial, there was another big trial that
[2:56] hadn't that scheduled that one did not go to trial, so it was just within the case that it
[3:00] forward. But it was something that brought up an issue that we don't see very often with special
[3:05] prosecutions in the 70 cases now. So it kind of a rarity to think about a few others over the
[3:11] last six months that he sent out and he would take it quite a few more than me. It's sent out,
[3:16] you've done it on your own system. We're often in a better position to help out because at some
[3:21] of the sars, I try to take those for the camp to do a number of those going in different counties right
[3:26] And it's a little bit of an opportunity for us to get out and see how it would become its function, their courthouse, and how that course works.
[3:34] So that case is that presenting August 22nd, there were conditions that were two meetings from now.
[3:45] Other things that I'll update there after setting up.
[3:48] There was only one other trial that we were involved with over the last month or so.
[3:52] And that was operating whilst suspended.
[3:55] So somebody with the, did not have a driver's license,
[4:00] but caused a great badly harm.
[4:02] So a situation where the front end, the defense at the beginning
[4:06] is not one that we generally view as that serious,
[4:08] operating whilst suspended is not even criminal by itself.
[4:11] But when there's a situation where a great part of the harm
[4:13] is caused, that elevates its significant.
[4:17] So that goes to trial, it was a scenario
[4:19] where the defendant had caused a crash.
[4:22] Ashkash Police Department was involved in the investigation.
[4:26] The defendant had a number of prior offenses for operating law suspended.
[4:31] And injuries essentially involve broken ribs, broken femur of chef and e-caps.
[4:35] So there are pretty significant injuries that has a result of the original behavior that
[4:40] wouldn't be in a big criminal.
[4:42] So that case didn't go to conviction after a jury trial was a 10-day jail sentence and it
[4:47] have to find that was imposed there, but kind of a strange situation because usually in the case
[4:51] of that we're involved with the behavior on the front end is the seriousness of it is pretty
[4:57] evident right away. That's one of those where the original behavior wasn't as sort of like that.
[5:02] That was pretty significant result. There were a couple of significant sentences that occurred
[5:06] both were sexual assault cases that had gone to trial previously. I think we probably
[5:11] talking about both of these at prior meetings. One of them was repeated sexual assaults of
[5:18] children. They're actually a couple different children involved. The main victim was the
[5:23] child of the defense ex-girlfriend. These are things that happened over an extended period of time.
[5:30] It was a trial and it happened two months ago. Sentencing just occurred. Sentencing was imposed
[5:35] sort of 20 years that initial confinement 15 years extended supervision for the very five years
[5:40] sentence that they're all broken down with confinement time supervision time. So that was a
[5:45] pretty significant one. There was another case actually that went to sentencing today.
[5:49] It also had trial for a couple months ago. That was again, central assault of the number of
[5:54] different children, the children, the couple of them were related somewhere friends of the other
[5:59] victims. And this is like when I talked about it and I mentioned that the
[6:04] And then that suggested it was a ritual to remove negative energy and really it was something to create an opportunity for a sexual contact.
[6:13] He was convicted of that trial while back.
[6:16] I was sentenced today to just under 46 years of finance, 30 years of sex and supervision.
[6:21] And this was a person who had a prior conviction for a sexual assault from outside the country.
[6:26] So, those cases had to, I think we talked a little bit about them before and I won't go into details of the fact that it's just to give an idea that there are some pretty happy sentences to come out from chart as like that.
[6:39] Yeah, those are different types of chart.
[6:40] Just in case I talked about earlier, just recently able to try.
[6:44] The last thing I'll mention, I talked a little bit before about certain things that specifically are investigator positions.
[6:50] we had on investigators, both of whom had been in place for quite a long time. One for
[6:55] like 22 years at an hour department, after over 30 years at the sheriff's office, the other
[7:01] one had been about six years in our office. Again, a pretty long career at the sheriff's office.
[7:06] So they retired within about six weeks of each other. We had one of the positions, the non-supervisor
[7:12] reposition, which we split into two half-time positions, as typically that's what we expected. We
[7:17] be the type of candidate that would be recruiting
[7:21] to be someone who is retiring from law enforcement
[7:23] and if they're working, will time
[7:24] to not able to keep getting the pension.
[7:27] So we split that into two out-time positions.
[7:30] Those about a month ago, the individual that retired from Ausgash Police Department, and we also build the full-time supervisor
[7:38] e-quisition, and actually starts next week, and that is somebody that we took away from the sheriff's office, sorry about that.
[7:47] Although there have been a number of jokes he was working in court security, so as I passed through there a number of times in the college, so that I'm a jokingly, hopefully you're a big person thinking about their hands.
[7:55] But it is kind of an awkward situation when we're talking about hiring law enforcement officers in our office,
[8:03] because there are either people who have previously worked for the agencies around us, or in this case currently,
[8:09] or working for agency here.
[8:12] And I know I'm very struggling when they're struggling in those spots when they're vacant,
[8:16] so I wasn't excited to necessarily put somebody in a political position, but it's a good opportunity for us.
[8:21] So we just have that in the half-time position that we'll be looking at the field again.
[8:25] We don't have that force that right now, we're just going to give that a minute,
[8:28] so we don't have whole bunch of new people starting on all that ones.
[8:31] But just they give us a little chance for overlap, doing some overlap with the outgoing
[8:37] investigators from the supervisor in motion. And I think that is,
[8:42] I'll end the brief visit.
[8:44] Good questions.
[8:48] Thank you.
[8:56] Three minutes.
[8:57] So I'll just put a little bit of recap of the last month.
[9:02] We had the ATB crash that killed a 611 year old little girl.
[9:08] Extremely sad, we'll reconstruct the crash.
[9:13] There is not a fault.
[9:16] In this particular case, it's hard to strike vehicles concerned.
[9:20] But I'm very sad and just an extremely emotional scene.
[9:26] was there that was there that the post-family sort of gone through was too
[9:33] give us a lot and we wished them in a piece and during our thoughts and prayers and our
[9:41] guys are impacted by that as well so they're helping us as needed and there's a
[9:48] determined state of declaration and dependency they am on the fourth and on the court
[9:53] steps and do not have it memorized yet. The only green always expected that. I've got
[10:00] maybe the first pair of that. That's it evidence more building started today. My
[10:06] own started construction. Six to nine month completion. I'm friend. So we'll watch that
[10:14] as it as it as it continues. The art upon update for the radios, we will be returning
[10:22] approximately $360,000 that was not spent on the radio. We're holding back about $29,000.
[10:30] There are some highway trucks that have not come in yet, so those radios need to be installed and
[10:38] I want to make sure that we're able to cover it with those funds. So anything of that $29,000,
[10:42] that is left at the end will also go back and harp a funding.
[10:47] Um,
[10:50] um, uh, there's there and yeah, just just talk about this and I can't give a specific
[10:54] details because we want to, um, we want to make sure that, uh, everybody is notified and
[11:01] families are notified.
[11:02] But we have a case from the 1960s, homicide that we would have brought the trial.
[11:07] Get the suspect would be a lot.
[11:09] He passed away about a year and a half ago,
[11:13] but we were able to do DNA techniques
[11:17] and do identify suspect in that case.
[11:21] So one of those things where we had about five years ago
[11:25] sent DNA in, but the improvements in DNA now,
[11:29] that company recontacted us and we're able to identify suspect.
[11:35] And it was one of the individuals
[11:37] that have done with that. And that we had to talk to on a couple of occasions.
[11:46] The outcome is 239 today. So we're still up there a little bit from where we have been.
[11:53] You should have received our average daily population email today.
[11:58] If you didn't, please let me know. Let me sure that you're getting that. We are up the
[12:03] I remember about 12 from the beginning of the year on average.
[12:08] So we are seeing an increase in our daily population.
[12:13] We met with Polklar County today to provide them all
[12:16] review of the start program there.
[12:18] Very excited and going to move forward with something very,
[12:23] very similar.
[12:26] We also find for a state grant that's available each year
[12:33] through 2027 for $100,000, and also sent an email to all of you
[12:40] of the opioid settlement funds announcement through Wisconsin County Association.
[12:45] And that will specifically give you what is expected.
[12:49] We're going to be able to come and receive through 2038.
[12:55] So we're hoping to have a meeting with the County Executive,
[12:59] And I think it's just a funding program through the open
[13:03] itself and fund as well.
[13:08] Representative Sino is also a board member has is introducing legislation to assist
[13:16] listing funding or specific programs that are the star program.
[13:23] They have their very very limited, I mean it would have to be basically the
[13:29] around that we have. So there may be some other opportunities there as well.
[13:37] Um, do I do have a budget update? We have a 4.23% overall labor increase. So that would include
[13:47] the contract with the deputies as well as the wage study and then the cost of living
[13:54] And other ways that occurred for the other employees.
[14:01] So that is substantial.
[14:02] That's a one point, six million dollar employees in a sub.
[14:07] Again, that's not some of those are numbers
[14:09] that we received from HR in finance,
[14:16] it's those numbers, including increase in the benefits.
[14:21] But that's a 1.6 million and then there's some contractual increases, this is that we're paying more for food, etc.
[14:31] Food contract amount for the inmates, medical one-up for the inmates,
[14:37] cost of cars, one-up, cost of change over one-up.
[14:45] budget meetings are the week of July 29th, the second is 5th to the night and I was 12th to the 16th.
[14:56] I have not been assigned a date yet, but I will.
[15:00] Chair and wise now, one that is, and hopefully you'd be able to attend.
[15:06] This first new net construction will be a net new construction will be released.
[15:11] So we know what kind of money we would have available.
[15:15] Every seven executive should have the budget ready for review.
[15:21] And then obviously our view, our budget with you as soon as we have all our numbers together, still putting some of those things together.
[15:34] commercial events, we have the A-A, the Fair, and Crossroads 41, which is sort of, I'm
[15:44] through you guys say Rock USA combined. There's a huge drop. There's nothing that's a huge drop.
[15:52] So the numbers are much less than we would experience for a normal country USA.
[15:59] And then you need a question.
[16:01] It's the last month you talked about
[16:04] and we're occupying our area around the DA's office.
[16:08] Does that resolve itself for you?
[16:11] Well, there's also items there I've seen.
[16:16] I'm not really, I don't know that it's been totally resolved.
[16:20] The meeting was interesting that we've had with Esther
[16:24] and some of the city leadership, interesting in the sense of two very different
[16:33] Indians on what should happen. The Supreme Court did just rule if you saw that that
[16:41] you can remove encampments. So there are ordinances. The city of Nina has an ordinance that doesn't
[16:46] you know, allow ordering and encampments in those types of things, and that was challenged
[16:53] US Supreme Court rule that those are valid and you can remove encampments.
[17:00] So there's two very different opinions.
[17:03] Is it resolved?
[17:05] I would say it's not.
[17:06] I think maybe that area is sort of resolved, because I don't believe we have the kind
[17:11] of activity we did before.
[17:13] Yeah, just to add on to that, I think we were seeing during the daytime anywhere from usually two to six or seven people around there at nighttime, I think the numbers that had grown at least some of the nights.
[17:29] We're not seeing very many people around right now, and I don't think there's been any formal action that was taken.
[17:35] and then resulted in being ejected from that area by some sort of rule, it does seem like
[17:43] maybe with some of the attention on it, they might not feel as well. I'm not sure exactly
[17:48] what caused the change or exactly where people are located, but there have been a lot less
[17:52] people occasionally we've seen one or two, but it has not been the same type of situation that it was before.
[18:01] What's the concern for me out of the way in the building there?
[18:05] Yeah.
[18:05] Are they happy with the way it's going?
[18:08] I got to believe that the reduced activity has, you know, reduced some of the tension that exists there.
[18:17] So, hopefully that, you know, it's a, again, a tough situation.
[18:23] The individuals that were out there were offered services, didn't they refuse those services?
[18:29] because of the rules that they needed to follow or whatever reasoning they used, you know,
[18:36] you know, opted to just stay there, which creates a lot of issues for people who work there.
[18:45] Was it peaceful?
[18:48] Have some meeting?
[18:53] Yeah, well we had, you know, there was, we had video of, you know,
[18:58] of public urination, we have video of a shoving match, we have video of Aggie drug use.
[19:08] So, was it, did they violate some laws, yes, they did?
[19:14] There was no enforcement action taken, and I think that was kind of maybe the next step
[19:20] that would have been forward, moving forward, but I think it's the reduced active in this
[19:26] help.
[19:28] Is that up to us to control that or is that the city?
[19:32] Well, that's where it gets a little, the city of Ashkaft's handles all of the calls outside of the buildings.
[19:39] Coming buildings, we handled the ones inside of those two buildings, the courthouse and the orange came building.
[19:46] However, there was some agreements of what would be allowed and not allowed between the county exactly in the city.
[19:54] So on the outside, which creates a lot of muddy water.
[20:02] So that didn't help.
[20:05] Just curious, again, to this point,
[20:08] is I'm not from Ashkastoy and the post-president
[20:11] covers the known in this.
[20:12] Yeah.
[20:13] So just curious about what the risk criminality was there
[20:18] any threatening behavior to the people in the buildings
[20:20] or were they shelving each other, the people
[20:22] who are in the occupants we're shoving each other and disagreeing and I just want to understand
[20:29] other than there certainly a clear level of discomfort was anybody impacted threatened.
[20:36] There were some confrontations that occurred inside the building when some of the
[20:41] individuals were coming inside and basically used the bathroom as a shower type facility or refusing
[20:50] to leave when it was times a lack of building because they were doing something. So there were some
[20:56] confrontations and also when the people are outside and they were used to marijuana use
[21:03] and that is coming through the windows even though the windows are open and I mean that's coming
[21:08] through and now we have individuals on the first floor who are receiving addiction,
[21:15] counseling and their smell and practice of kind of common productive.
[21:21] Just like, okay, add on to that too.
[21:27] So we did have a situation too where based on some of the marijuana use that was referenced also drinking.
[21:35] There were a number of situations where there was a drinking of all observed up there.
[21:40] We didn't, we talked about the impact that might have on people receiving services
[21:43] on the first floor. There was one situation where a person had been referred by the health department
[21:48] to go to the one thing the first floor that person actually expressed. They did not want to go to
[21:54] because of that activity that was happening, it didn't feel comfortable. And that was one of the things
[21:58] that we had to talk about. I'd certainly have to be sorry to go back to your question too.
[22:05] I think that the most frequent problem we were seeing as far as the impact on people that were
[22:10] working in that building.
[22:12] Things like, people with security on the building, those first
[22:15] buildings are right there.
[22:16] So they're essentially exposing themselves to people.
[22:18] We had a few people that were walking from, there's a
[22:20] parking lot across the street.
[22:21] There's some people who are getting, like, they'd be walking in.
[22:24] They observe people with their hands down or things like that.
[22:27] So that was something that happened.
[22:29] There were.
[22:30] I think a couple instances of cat calling or something like that. So if not anything that got real extreme there, but definitely not a comfortable situation, people go into work.
[22:39] Thanks, thank you.
[22:41] Thank you, Chair.
[22:42] I actually have us.
[22:43] Okay, thank you.
[22:44] This is a couple of questions.
[22:46] In terms of the salary, you had said it was 4.2% increase?
[22:52] Yeah.
[22:54] are you expecting that kind of increased year to year?
[23:00] Well, contract for the deputies that believe is 4% each year.
[23:05] So, and then, you know, whatever is decided by finance and HR for the other employees, the general employees.
[23:16] Okay, then with the increases that we're seeing in population, are there any concerns that we have the appropriate amount of staffing to support that, or are we okay?
[23:27] Well, actually, we are full on diabetes as of two days ago.
[23:33] they go, Friday, I think we finished the last background. That doesn't mean that they have
[23:41] started yet, they have to go through, so a conditional offers or a given to everybody.
[23:48] I do anticipate that we'll be full with them there to go through the training process,
[23:51] so it's like six to nine months. For a deputy in the jail, I believe it is a 10 week appeal
[24:00] and then they have jail school, which is five weeks, so about 15 weeks, okay.
[24:06] So from the population, increases with the irreverentage, can you clarify that?
[24:11] Well, I believe you would set that we are in terms of what we're all talking about.
[24:15] Oh, the jail population.
[24:17] Yeah.
[24:17] I mean, I'm going to make a county, I'm like, go home.
[24:19] Well, I do think that we've increased a little bit, but not crazy amount.
[24:23] But yeah, I was referring to the jail.
[24:25] Oh, thank you.
[24:27] Oh, yeah.
[24:28] Yeah.
[24:29] I don't want you to do the increases to labor will be just that, trying to maintain the current staff that tracked.
[24:41] We have some substantial retirements coming in a very short time.
[24:47] So we're preparing for all of that.
[24:49] That will take some time to cover it from as well.
[24:53] And with, I know we'll be more conversation on the budget coming up, but do you foresee any big items that this committee is going to have to talk through the next budget?
[25:06] No, there's nothing in the budget that you wouldn't have already seen like car squad cars.
[25:15] cameras squad in car cameras. So we have to update and replace those. There's
[25:23] observers for the jail. Nothing thing that to see.
[25:29] Right. And then one last comment. So I've been going to the courthouse a lot more lately,
[25:36] because I'm doing volunteering.
[25:39] and so I gotta tell you that the security of the deputies that security are fantastic.
[25:47] Like every single time that I've gone through, you know, before it was like maybe one,
[25:52] well, it was at least once a month.
[25:54] But that was usually, you know, towards the, you know, you do.
[25:57] But they are, they're just very, very kind, very pleasant.
[26:02] It's just, it's a really good face, I think, for the county,
[26:06] is one of you to know that this has been summer, and I really appreciate it. Even though
[26:12] it's weird that that scanner breaks down quite a bit. Yeah. That's something we may see as a
[26:18] purchase is a replacement. We do have a maintenance agreement, so when they fly in their
[26:24] person, the fix it, and it's covered under the maintenance agreement, but at some point
[26:28] Is that your budget?
[26:31] It's in our budget.
[26:32] Oh, okay.
[26:38] That was it.
[26:39] Thank you.
[26:40] Yes.
[26:41] The couple follow up questions.
[26:42] Just to have an abundance.
[26:44] Question.
[26:45] You talked about returning 360,000.
[26:51] You can do 29,000 from the, for the, for the,
[26:54] Arphas Fund.
[26:56] That's awesome news.
[26:58] I just want to make sure, because I trust your opinion,
[27:01] but I, for me, I just want to make sure.
[27:03] We have all the radios. Everything you need is 29,000, and not to retain.
[27:13] Yes. Captain Lindola, who is normally here, is very much on top of that. She knows what that will
[27:20] cost, and I have the utmost confidence that she gave me a good thing. She's absolutely fantastic.
[27:27] I trusted 360,000 is a lot of money, and that's surprising to me, and I'm grateful that you were able, even your department, which they say that kind of money.
[27:38] One follow-up, I know that it was only just past what's the last month at the board for the furniture grant, for the star, how was that going.
[27:48] I don't think we hasn't been delivered yet, but we will take it.
[27:53] We will take possession of prior to the grant ending and everything.
[27:58] We'll work out great.
[28:01] Start programs still continues to have great success.
[28:06] We have more interest than what we have space.
[28:11] So we're trying to get people in.
[28:13] and we're very particular about who stays in the program.
[28:21] You have to follow what the program rules are,
[28:25] or you move back into the main population.
[28:29] They get another chance typically,
[28:32] but it's a reminder that it's serious,
[28:34] and we're serious about their survival.
[28:38] I'm here, is the lieutenant grouping that is over-death?
[28:42] Or, you know, it's, it's like a closed object. Yes, my apologies. I'm sure she's keeping data.
[28:49] I would be very, very interested to see just how much benefit, because I believe the furniture
[28:56] or the changes are going to be a huge benefit that will change engagement back and forth.
[29:03] And I think that's hoping that other counties will follow. Yes, absolutely agree. The changes to the
[29:12] of observation that starting soon, we thought it would be done right now. It's not. It's okay and then the furniture and we'll have numbers for you through from the beginning of the year through June.
[29:31] It was just July 1st or we were able to pull the June numbers
[29:36] in time for this meeting.
[29:38] All right, send them out just ahead of time,
[29:42] so you have them even prior to the next meeting.
[29:47] This is all I have.
[29:49] Thank you.
[29:50] Thank you.
[29:51] Thanks so much.
[30:02] So, what's been happening in the Office of Corporation Council? We have had a number of jury trials. We had a trial, a mental commit injury trial for a patient at the WRC of the Defense and Resource Center. The county prevailed in the case. The trial itself went for about a day.
[30:24] There was another mental commitment in case, again, for a patient at the Wisconsin Resource Center.
[30:31] This was not an original commitment.
[30:33] This was an extension.
[30:34] So the first one was under commitment.
[30:36] And there was a determination by the position of that there needed to be an extension.
[30:43] The patient disagreed.
[30:45] So, obviously, you haven't been entitled to a jury trial.
[30:49] Again, the county prevailed a map.
[30:52] the trial itself and could go about five hours
[30:53] for that obviously doesn't include all of the motion
[30:57] practice for doing hundreds of pages of medical records
[30:59] and all of that.
[31:02] There was another jury trial actually began
[31:05] in for a mental commitment through the Department of Human
[31:08] Services, not those scouts in Greece to have said
[31:10] that it was an extension, but as Kennedy
[31:14] the case, it resolved prior to trial with a stipulation
[31:20] And then our most recent jury trial was in May.
[31:26] And it was again a mental commitment through the WRC.
[31:31] The county prevailed in that this was a significant case.
[31:34] There were over 1500 pages working for medical records.
[31:37] There's a lot of legal research done.
[31:40] The trial itself went for a full day.
[31:44] But again, the county prevailed in that.
[31:47] So to date, we've had four, well, I should say
[31:52] there were four requests for jury trial, one result,
[31:56] but we prevailed on the following trial.
[32:01] Now, in terms of appeals,
[32:06] we have filed two response briefs to the Supreme Court of Wisconsin.
[32:12] And I think you all remember that we had an oral argument
[32:17] in March involving the involuntary administration and psychotropic medications.
[32:22] Again, this was a commitment in the case.
[32:26] And we received a decision on the 17th and the Supreme Court said that, essentially, they
[32:33] should have never taken the case.
[32:36] We had the case.
[32:37] We tried it.
[32:37] We prevailed at the circuit court level and the person appealed to the Court of Appeals,
[32:45] supportive appeals, reaffirmed the circuit court decision, and then the
[32:51] appellant said, no, I want to go to the Supreme Court of Wisconsin. The
[32:56] Supreme Court of Wisconsin accepted the appeal, we, as you know, file various
[33:02] breaks, we have oral arguments, and then sure enough the Supreme Court said
[33:09] that the case was in Providence rebranded, meaning they should have never taken
[33:14] it anyway. So as they're all of those hours of research and of prep, bottom line is they basically
[33:23] upheld the position of the circuit board in the cornfield, which was great. And the other
[33:29] thing is, this was a total waste because this was an outcounty placement and we can build
[33:37] for out of County residents because we've never had been involved in, but for that, so there
[33:45] was significant bills submitted to the state for all of the time associated with that.
[33:53] And so we've had that. The other thing we did was we were able to attend court of appeals
[33:59] district to seminar in Wancashaw. It was in the late May. It was a great, it was a great
[34:10] CLA, a continuum and more education program. It had the various Caribbean judges, we were
[34:15] going to talk to them. They were talking about the fact that we are just, they are just
[34:21] being bombarded with a lot of these mental convincing cases. So they could feel archaided
[34:27] we could feel there came and they said that they didn't see an end in sight but time will tell.
[34:36] One of the other attorneys in my office attended a two-and-a-half-day public health law
[34:45] practitioner conference in New Orleans and that was attorney Kathy Sheer and she attended
[34:54] with Doug Garen, who was, who was the first part of her hand, and she said she learned a lot
[35:01] because she wanted to face, we want to get an idea as to what the national front is in terms of
[35:08] public health, so that was really, really good. Recognification. So, we have completed review of the final
[35:19] approved, which is a 600 plus page document.
[35:23] We had invited all departments to review their respective code sections, and offer
[35:28] comments.
[35:29] There were 17 meetings held with various departments, several meetings held with the
[35:37] newly code attorneys.
[35:40] And so, in terms of housekeeping details for the classification, we are, we are set to
[35:47] However, as you know, there's a corollary, and that is the substitute change, the policy change, and that's another base.
[35:57] And while we were going to submit this portion of it, I spoke with the county executive and he said, you know, it's probably better just to submit it all together.
[36:08] So we are undertaking the next piece, which is starting to look at the substitute.
[36:15] So, again, so we've tracked the policy request made by department and we are basically going to be working with them in terms of going through various communities and getting it ready for the mission to do the agriculture.
[36:35] In terms of guardianships, we've been responding to temporary guardianships, emergency protective placement requests, we've been advising adult-protective services on numerous issues,
[36:52] and then on the appellate front, we have 12 cases out there in the appellate court.
[37:04] We don't know if they're going to file a notice of the field or not, but those are out there and we're waiting to see what will happen.
[37:13] There are 10 cases in addition to the 12, where the party who did not prevail has signed a notice of intent to appeal.
[37:24] So, again, that could potentially be 22, but we will see.
[37:28] I'm 90.
[37:30] On Friday, Judge Basil Lear granted supervised release to another in May from Wilson, but the good news is we have got three tiny homes. And just for people's benefit, I don't know, although some of you probably remember this.
[37:52] The state, a few years back, had basically told the county is that they were obliged to provide housing to 980 sets of vendors.
[38:04] 980 sets of vendors are a bit serious, sets of orders.
[38:08] Even though the state had assumed that obligation, they decided to get to the county.
[38:12] And they were kind enough to say that if you don't find housing within 120 days,
[38:17] you were going to be $1,100 a day county every day to go to buy housing.
[38:24] And these are for 1980 people who basically were residents of the county at the time the crime was committed.
[38:36] So, again, the good news is we have housing free available gifts.
[38:44] So, our 1980 team is going to be getting together because we have to have a 1980 team that involves facilities, but involved with apartments and services, but involved with the sheriff, he's gone.
[38:56] But although Senator Torley is very interesting, sure it is not one of the parties that has to be there.
[39:01] He's been there, but he is not one of the parties.
[39:03] And then we have the Department of Human Services, and so, but again, it should be a very easy lift because we have housing and we don't have to worry about
[39:12] getting essentially a $400,000 fine because we couldn't find housing.
[39:17] The reason it's very difficult to find housing is there are restrictions.
[39:21] You can't have housing within 15th and 15th and 15th of a church, a day, cold book, hair,
[39:25] hospital, school, that type of thing.
[39:30] So, this is a good spot.
[39:34] Third, so,
[39:38] and Sheriff Mott's reference to the United States Supreme Court has been very busy
[39:43] of issuing decisions as we all know.
[39:47] And, sure enough, they basically issued a decision.
[39:51] I think it was like last one's year first day
[39:53] involving the SACLO family and the opioid crisis.
[39:59] And they said that the SACLOers were not able to
[40:02] avail themselves of the protections of the bankruptcy law.
[40:06] Now, one of the supervisors here with the student
[40:09] to reach out to me and say, can this effect our settlement? And the answer is, it can. It will
[40:17] not affect the existing revenue stream. I reached out to National Council, they have said they
[40:21] are putting in analysis together to do a deep dive. But from my point of view, if the sacrifice
[40:28] cannot avail themselves of bankruptcy protection, I could suggest, could see there being
[40:34] or money in the future. So that's what I can tell you before I have that piece.
[40:45] And then one other, just turn it down. One other thing you should also, now I think I shared it with
[40:52] some of you, we have had some of the baby going going in our office. So I am going to be losing
[41:01] two of the three pair of Legels who handle all of our work, and of course that I could
[41:09] share it with you. So she will be leaving at the end of August for a couple of months, and
[41:16] hopefully we'll be back by Thanksgiving, and then another pair of Legels will be taking his
[41:23] materially. So I have been reaching out trying to fashion remedies to this.
[41:31] Obviously we wish them well, we're very excited. We also have five foot in a tree
[41:36] who is out on FMLA as well. We have a lot of babies and all of us. So, so again, I would just ask
[41:46] you to be patient with us because obviously the key thing that we're going to put in do not
[41:51] have the experience that my Carol equals have and we're going to do the best food here.
[41:57] I'll just want to continue with that.
[42:00] In terms of numbers, okay, for mental health cases, the new case is open in 2024 today,
[42:08] 127. New guardianship cases, again, for 2024, the number is 58. New ships cases,
[42:19] COVID for 2024, 26.
[42:26] In terms of legislation, we've drafted a hundred cases of legislation.
[42:34] There have been 30 committee commissioner board meetings that does not include other meetings
[42:40] to that include management meetings, department meetings, training meetings, WRC meetings,
[42:46] W, ME, CHI, which is one of the legal mental health meetings, post total 195.
[42:51] We have also been extremely busy with planning and zoning.
[42:56] There have been so many issues involved in that.
[43:01] I can have an attorney just devoted to that.
[43:04] But that's fine.
[43:05] So that's been very busy.
[43:08] I gave an opinion to style of ways.
[43:11] Solid waste was taking a lot of time as well.
[43:14] but we've been doing okay.
[43:16] We've had 48 contract reviews since the start of the year.
[43:23] So those are the numbers and that's basically my summary.
[43:29] That's not a couple of questions.
[43:32] So for chips cases, that's down versus last year.
[43:36] I feel like, you know, I don't want to,
[43:39] I don't want to talk, well,
[43:40] So 26 since January 1st, do you know?
[43:47] It's all like it was significantly higher, but it could be thick.
[43:49] Oh, I thought I think I had said the numbers were higher a month or two with that.
[43:54] I'm going to tell you today that ship's number one up a little bit.
[43:56] So it's not 26. What is it?
[43:59] What is that?
[44:02] We'll just double check.
[44:06] But,
[44:35] So I remember,
[44:45] I think the last time I spoke, I was saying, there's been an uptick in this year. Right. Yeah, we had a conversation about that. On the 1980, do you know if we got furniture?
[44:56] for this conversation that we didn't order the furniture.
[45:00] Okay, did say we don't have any further. Yeah, so we need to make sure that we have furniture for these.
[45:05] My deal of sent me an email and said the furniture has been ordered.
[45:10] Okay.
[45:10] That's right.
[45:11] Do we have a timing on what we expect this person?
[45:16] We call it all I know is that we have to find something by what, you know, hundreds of October 28th.
[45:22] So I do not have days to when use the one you'd be released.
[45:26] But I mean, basically what happens is we, for our committee, we send the letter to the judge and then the judge that's a date and then they go from there and I know the sheriff's office often,
[45:41] times out our notices and then just a couple more really quick on the
[45:51] re-qualification. So what is the time frame that you're expecting based on
[45:57] the where we're at and these, you know, the substantial, the substance and changes coming.
[46:02] We are now talking about really spray of 25.
[46:08] We have to go getting it to the board by spring of 25 is that you're getting it through getting it through.
[46:17] And is it it is just the the committees of jurisdiction or does this committee have to see all of them.
[46:27] That seems to happen. That's going to be a happy year.
[46:31] Well, first of all, I know Landon War has a lot of changes.
[46:38] But again, it's ordinance, it's not rule.
[46:42] And arguably, you have jurisdiction over the rules.
[46:46] But oftentimes, the rules in the ordinances go hand in hand.
[46:50] And I always want to play people to be aware of what's coming down the pipeline, right?
[46:56] So I would also think that the rules at HOT task force should probably understand what's going on to as they're working to make sure that that's a lot of steps that we don't have an issue where we have these
[47:10] just looking pieces of a much station now in the crew, and then we're trying to
[47:16] accessible. Kathy Scheer, who is one of these different town councils and has been
[47:21] really meeting the charge on this re-conflictation, has indicated that she is sending out,
[47:28] basically emails to the department, and saying, please get me a list of the stuff you've
[47:33] changes, so that you can then work on them and start showing it.
[47:38] And then you can identify if there's going to be some impact to rules.
[47:43] We'd be able to identify at least those.
[47:47] And then one last question.
[47:49] So we have this bill that we sent to the state for the second topic.
[47:53] Case that went to the Supreme Court.
[47:55] Okay.
[47:56] So we sent a bill to the state.
[47:59] Are we just hoping that they're going to pay?
[48:00] Or is this just a thing where we think that they have paid last year and actually the bills that we sent and this wasn't just for the Supreme Court one
[48:12] I sent a bill for over 250,000 dollars
[48:17] Actually, I should say finance debt. It was all over attorneys work
[48:21] Right
[48:22] And last year, I guess, I don't have the numbers in front of me but they pay our bill.
[48:26] Now, it's not 250, probably.
[48:32] It's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of.
[48:35] Well, no, no, the total bill.
[48:38] The eye-up at all.
[48:39] I can do it.
[48:40] It's a bit of a bit of a contee.
[48:41] And to make it through this year, because it wasn't a adjun, that we said that bill.
[48:46] You have to send it out to line one.
[48:47] Until I won. So I'm here today.
[48:49] It was said that we sent out two weeks ago.
[48:52] Two weeks ago, it didn't include the case.
[48:54] Oh, yeah, it did.
[48:55] Okay, sure.
[48:56] It's a little dull.
[48:57] We should know, find the end of August.
[48:59] Okay, I'm just saying here, yeah.
[49:02] Yeah, but that's the free court case with all of the work
[49:06] of all of the traveling and all of that,
[49:09] and a couple of others was probably $1,200,000.
[49:13] So I think the free court should be for that.
[49:17] Oh, thank you, Orange, that's fine.
[49:18] A-sport.
[49:19] And not that.
[49:20] Not all.
[49:21] Right.
[49:22] Right.
[49:23] Because that's part of the budget that, you know, on how I can justify what we don't do with this
[49:31] question.
[49:32] And one last question on with the public health conference that was, that one too, will be,
[49:38] do you know if anyone's from permission council will be publishing like any sort of like
[49:42] learning that we got from the conference.
[49:46] I don't think she's.
[49:47] was very good. It was a great conference, and she wrote everything. I mean, we can thank and certainly ask her.
[49:53] I don't want to create more work of this curious thing. There was any sort of postpartum.
[49:57] And then she said it was a great conference.
[49:59] We have to contact her.
[50:01] Okay.
[50:02] Public Health asked us.
[50:04] Public Health and the Department of Administration said it would be good.
[50:07] If you could go along with public health to get the legal interpretation, which was really
[50:13] that we've gone for a full day for time enough.
[50:15] Since we didn't, I don't have money like that.
[50:17] We're in my budget to go all the time.
[50:19] They were kind enough to be wrong.
[50:22] Well, it's great where we can get, you know,
[50:24] I said, let's find out if we can hit all of our departments
[50:26] where you've gathered in collaboration.
[50:28] We've been awesome.
[50:29] It really is.
[50:30] Yeah.
[50:31] Oh, what do you have to do?
[50:37] So that's right.
[50:40] So for a poor careful revenue,
[50:44] for a work we've done,
[50:46] So we've been July 1, 23 to June 30th, 24, but it's actually June 15th.
[50:55] Actually, she said this region was 25th.
[50:58] It was 265,000, 300 dollars.
[51:02] That's not all for this thing.
[51:04] Right. That's the total.
[51:09] Great. Great.
[51:13] What follow-ups?
[51:14] First, thank you very much for the quick email update because I reached out on the
[51:18] record and see anything because I know your office is busy that I hope everyone knows my passion
[51:28] too. Don't be able to have that addiction in what and what happened. So if I need to start
[51:36] watching out for something, please let me know. Would be happy to do that. I do anyway, but if
[51:42] you can direct me to specific things that you might be hearing, but I might be feeling to pick
[51:47] up and reaching out to law firms in other states, like, well, I absolutely do that.
[51:53] Lastly, on the 1980 housing, I know that there was a lot of controversy, then that
[52:00] went up.
[52:01] There were fast-crush residents that were not happy, and the building structures aside,
[52:08] just to clarify, because what people failed to understand and understand on the $1,100
[52:15] the day fine, that actually goes to the offensive.
[52:19] Most of it goes to the offensive.
[52:23] It's not just a fine.
[52:24] The fine is going to the perpetrator.
[52:28] So I just...
[52:31] Again, in structured society, that is a really good reason for why they're there.
[52:40] So we have two people at the Trailer, and then here's down a third, because it will be going to the time.
[52:47] It is not my impression that they're going to move the two food trailers that correct?
[52:51] No, that's not my impression needed.
[52:55] I know that one from the Trailer can tell you this, because I just received the order from the judge.
[53:00] try to apply for outright discharge that person in the near probably a year they can do that and that was denied. So,
[53:08] please, thank you for seeing what to do.
[53:14] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
[53:24] Board,
[53:28] we have a request for personal finance committee to approve 15,600 set of dollars in labor to
[53:33] to use for the medical and same-earth labor, it's kind of inadequate.
[53:40] So the date I'm here, I'm looking forward to this committee for parents.
[53:44] And I'll be going to, you know, Wednesday morning.
[53:50] What I'm looking to do is take the honor to take the administrative associate who is also baptized.
[53:57] And she's an 80% make her full time and make her a deputy.
[54:02] A lot of the administrative duties that she kind of, we all do.
[54:06] We all land to the polls. We all help families.
[54:09] We all, you know, there are a few things that she'll continue to do like
[54:13] Billy and Rabino, but that would be other duties as a sign to far as that close.
[54:18] I've heard of my reasoning for money into to make this change.
[54:24] Now, of course, this wait until the first of the year,
[54:28] In fact, not only is our cable going up, but the types of cases that we're having.
[54:36] It's less natural and more of your accidents or suicides.
[54:41] You know, from that dumb type of cases, which take a lot more hours.
[54:45] It's a lot more in-depth, as far as the cases go.
[54:49] This is a part of January or July 1st.
[54:52] we've had 50 things off the Nazis. Last year, it was 49.
[54:58] Last technology, this is also killing the drugs because they're not going to autopsy. Last year,
[55:04] it was 25 this year or more at 59. Some of our suicides are up as well. Not gunwood, our overdoses
[55:14] are down. The confirmed are down, but we also have a lot of outstanding toxicology results.
[55:22] that we're waiting to get back.
[55:24] What's up for us this time?
[55:26] 13, last year or with eight.
[55:30] Yeah, at this time.
[55:31] May I ask, do we, are these drug-related suicides?
[55:36] Like, these are not suicide by overdose?
[55:38] No.
[55:39] No, the majority of them are a fire or hanging.
[55:44] I think we have two that are over
[55:49] there.
[55:50] Yeah.
[55:52] So that's a lot of accidents.
[55:54] I'm sure a lot of that is reported, you know, on the news that people know, as it
[56:00] tells cases are very in depth, they take a lot of hours, it takes a lot, emotionally
[56:07] out of a lot of us as well. I did respond to the ATV accidents, I have the two girls. I have
[56:14] the app to finish my narrative reports because, I mean, I have all my notes, I have everything,
[56:19] it's just one of the reasons sometimes you need that to step away so you can sit down and
[56:23] really done. That's part of my big thing too is I don't want to put it out. There's only
[56:31] three of us that are in the field doing investigations for we've had 170 foreign investigations
[56:36] so far this year already. So I'm looking into she's she's already trained she's capable she's already
[56:47] to try and kind of spread out
[56:50] to taste a little bit more.
[56:54] The cost of that,
[56:57] but everything as far as the first one,
[56:59] if it's a little less,
[57:01] I think that's easy.
[57:06] You said 174 investigations.
[57:10] That's actual unseen investigation.
[57:11] We're halfway through the year.
[57:13] So that's more than one per day.
[57:18] That's like a seven day week.
[57:25] And that's what it realized was that much.
[57:28] That's like you said it even just having,
[57:30] but I'm not bringing in a new person.
[57:33] I'm just kind of changing her role.
[57:36] And we can help with administrative duties.
[57:38] We all do it anyway.
[57:40] But to ask her to actually go out and see you.
[57:44] You know what I mean?
[57:45] And what I mean?
[57:46] And what I mean?
[57:48] and that we do, what do we be fair to do that on a social, you know?
[57:53] Hey, first of all, what the tapidies are in some UK.
[57:56] That's not fair.
[58:00] First of all, what do you need to do in
[58:04] this?
[58:04] I need to have a clarification question.
[58:06] Thank you so much.
[58:08] And I am, um, it's really really interesting.
[58:12] Interesting.
[58:13] And it's important for us to understand that what you guys are doing,
[58:16] because I don't know why it was at first,
[58:18] because I think that's it.
[58:21] It's a hard job for me.
[58:23] I just had a clarification. It says in your letter, with the creation of the new more of our transportation expenses will significantly decrease.
[58:31] Great.
[58:31] The responsibility of the university gives will increase with the end of transportation duties.
[58:37] We're going to clarify that because I'm doing so.
[58:39] We're going to be doing the transplant.
[58:41] So right now, if they are not going to get a home, say they are going to autopsy.
[58:46] Right.
[58:46] have done in our care of prostate and control. We have a transconcentral service.
[58:51] So versus having them come at charging us for that removal home, then we can
[58:56] simply have to do that.
[58:57] We have to do that. We have to do that.
[58:59] We have to do that.
[59:00] Thank you for that.
[59:03] Thank you for that. Thank you.
[59:05] I didn't understand what that meant.
[59:07] And that's an opening for that.
[59:08] We'll have four deaf babies, you know what I mean, sharing in those duties as well.
[59:16] I'm sorry, maybe you said it, how many overdoses have we had?
[59:20] So are this year?
[59:21] When are you sitting there and saying suicide?
[59:22] They are now in the wild.
[59:24] It's 12 confirmed overdoses.
[59:27] We had 26 at this time, my heart.
[59:31] Like I said, I take it with a grain of silver.
[59:32] We know because we have a lot of toxic reports all day at and they go in ways.
[59:37] But I'm hoping that it's a syncope from her and making a difference, another thing that
[59:42] that is up to is, so we need to track cases that, um, other significant conditions is what
[59:51] it's called on the data certificate, so your cases that, um, deal with drugs and alcohol.
[59:59] But it's not that, that's not.
[1:00:00] The main call. They, somebody had a massive heart attack. And they had a cocaine on board. So the cocaine didn't, it may
[1:00:10] cause the heart attack, but it's not what killed them if it's not a toxic level. So we have a lot of cases
[1:00:16] that we were watching come through over the years that there are drugs or alcohol involved in here,
[1:00:23] but it's not getting recorded, it's going down its natural. So we started doing that last year, at the
[1:00:28] time we have 29 in this year, we have 44.
[1:00:33] So that's what I mean, it's, yeah.
[1:00:35] I'm hoping that the overdoses we do keep the dramatic.
[1:00:42] It's all going to depend on one of the programs that are in the place, which there are
[1:00:46] some awesome ones that we don't know, especially the start program,
[1:00:49] connect, and what product is coming up through the finally, what makes it to our company.
[1:00:59] It is relative to that the impact of the start program.
[1:01:04] It would be interesting to know in the past how many people had been in the jail system
[1:01:10] and now that diet of overdoses or something versus what the start program began.
[1:01:16] and then they are, if they're ever star program people,
[1:01:20] if we find.
[1:01:21] So that would be like a fine detail
[1:01:23] and I know it's ridiculous to find detail,
[1:01:25] but it would also help us to understand
[1:01:28] the actual impact of that program
[1:01:31] because if we claim 46% or 48% success rate,
[1:01:36] it would be another piece that would add it to that.
[1:01:38] It used to be in the sea,
[1:01:39] extra percentage of these, this kind of death,
[1:01:42] and now we're only saying,
[1:01:44] It would have to be a different thing.
[1:01:45] But it would have pre-insteaded that way.
[1:01:49] I think I know, like, or does the utility review,
[1:01:54] that would be recorded in an enthrotte here's and all of our,
[1:01:58] but it's only the cases that we've viewed.
[1:02:01] But I can try and find out, I've got to come over on those numbers.
[1:02:05] Well, I've got to have the ones that we haven't, you know,
[1:02:07] it was just for a year to be able to have that comparison to say,
[1:02:11] I think that this is another heavy show.
[1:02:22] Thank you very much.
[1:02:23] Thank you.
[1:02:39] That's point.
[1:02:40] And then the winner of the county general pivot section.
[1:02:43] One, one, two.
[1:02:44] To adopt a 75.
[1:02:46] I was given for chairs for its commissions task workers.
[1:02:49] Ask forces.
[1:02:50] Concerts and a 25 dollar per team.
[1:02:52] Step in for when they are county supervisors attending any authorized meeting or community.
[1:02:57] towards the mission staff forces and concerns, to which the supervisor has
[1:03:02] do we appointed? If I asked John, so I'm going to go in here.
[1:03:11] Thank you, Dr.
[1:03:13] Robert. I'm going to now turn you to present a simple importance change.
[1:03:22] First part would be an
[1:03:23] And it's amended to run a firework at 4.12 to adapt into the ad hoc fast force on a 3D
[1:03:32] infrastructure, last term.
[1:03:38] That's changed.
[1:03:39] Yeah, that's 75 hours per month.
[1:03:45] That's well, we went from what we're 30 years for all of our work to a monthly
[1:03:53] salary of $500 a month. Also, when additional compensation is $75 a month, it was afforded
[1:04:01] to committee chairs. So some of us who are here as a consortium, I'll
[1:04:11] it's a task force of it as well. Submit it for a $75 dollar type and if we do this term in
[1:04:21] this year or $500 or so, what salary we were denied, because the definition of a committee
[1:04:29] is different from the definition of a board, or a board commission task force has been
[1:04:36] district definitions are different. One is appointed by the kind of work chair, the standing committee chairs, and then the others are appointed by executive.
[1:04:49] So,
[1:04:52] in order to, I guess, equalize an additional compensation for an additional work required
[1:04:59] of a chair.
[1:05:02] I've come forward with this proposal amendment for 75 hours stipend, be extended to the County
[1:05:14] Board for the County Executive for the EES.
[1:05:19] Now, in the agenda report, the dimensions and asks for clarification, as to where the
[1:05:28] effort includes outside counties as well, and I think what I'm going to tell you,
[1:05:34] like the WCV, make-on-on projects, regional planning, commission, and local governments.
[1:05:41] I didn't think about that.
[1:05:42] My intent would be just for the one of the things I'm going to tell you,
[1:05:46] of these benefits from this and not the outside parties, but I guess the budgetary impact
[1:05:54] from what they said would only be $10,000 if you include it all the time, so I guess I really
[1:05:59] don't have to do that.
[1:06:01] That would be a few of them.
[1:06:05] All of us could say eventually if this goes forward.
[1:06:10] The other part of this that I decided to address was the idea that we might include a 25-hour
[1:06:20] per day of stipend for where we could kind of supervise and repenting and authorized meeting
[1:06:27] committee's boards, permission to task for authority, permission to supervise or has been
[1:06:33] I did this because when the task force brought forth changes in the last term, out of any county at a similar structure where there was an additional 25 dollars, anyone who attended the committee meeting that was really appointed, as well as the former above the final of our salaries, well in doubt.
[1:06:59] I thought, well, you know, I'd like to maybe get out ahead of what could be waiting
[1:07:05] attendance, potentially, the committee meetings going forward, you don't have a problem
[1:07:12] now.
[1:07:12] I would like to thank the leader on, you know, and I just want to follow that committee meeting
[1:07:18] often as we're getting to a salary every month, you know, and I thought at this point
[1:07:25] a little just a little bit, there's somewhat sense of the constraint.
[1:07:30] People to the committees regularly improve attendance on a term. So that's why I decided to put this in the amendment as well.
[1:07:41] These changes wouldn't take place this term, they by, I think I got the statute, right?
[1:07:48] That's 153 after.
[1:07:51] Now this would take effect there, make sure that you do the next.
[1:07:56] Well, the agenda report also mentions that your responsibility to this area is related to rules rather than budgetary changes or ordinance changes.
[1:08:14] As far as I agree to the rules,
[1:08:19] it mentions purgium compensation and it doesn't include
[1:08:23] a mile.
[1:08:25] And it doesn't mention how our first salary is off.
[1:08:32] So I realize the DMHAC task forces in place will be making changes this year through the rules.
[1:08:42] But, you know, do we delay county business waiting for the task force to complete their job?
[1:08:51] I don't think so.
[1:08:51] I think we have to keep going with, you know, thinking changes that we will make at the county board level.
[1:09:02] And the task force has to, you know,
[1:09:09] has to adopt those changes as they go along.
[1:09:14] That's just my opinion on that.
[1:09:17] So I realize that I'm looking at this.
[1:09:22] And I'm trying to give us the last task force meeting.
[1:09:26] And as we had not task force number one.
[1:09:29] And so if you made a change, if you didn't share your,
[1:09:33] or, or, um, finance,
[1:09:36] and the board of supervisors,
[1:09:39] you'd have to pick another girl at the times back to number one.
[1:09:43] Okay, because number one, then we'd adopt the change.
[1:09:45] to me. Maybe.
[1:09:52] It's my thought on that. So I present this to you, you know, whether or not you
[1:09:57] will take a vote on this tonight or whether you're even need to take a vote on this.
[1:10:04] That is, is to be this year, I don't know, of this year and to be kind of that, but
[1:10:10] well, you know, finance, finance isn't set up to get this this month. Okay, so I wanted it, you know,
[1:10:18] timing this is not critical. So I'm not pushing myself on finance next week or one of them
[1:10:25] they need. This would be next month.
[1:10:31] So as far as I go as I mean the original recommendation for
[1:10:37] the compensation dig on through JPS last time. So I don't see why they're being sort of
[1:10:48] the general report is that, you know, your work is related to the rules and this is the
[1:10:58] attaining you the purpose of council, where did this felt wrong?
[1:11:03] This agenda item report was not written by me. I think it's not written by me, I think it's not written by me.
[1:11:10] Could we all move?
[1:11:11] is that all exactly what they have.
[1:11:15] Yes, yeah, I know, that's just a little bit of a signal.
[1:11:17] Yeah.
[1:11:17] I was in Paris.
[1:11:19] But with this, you know, I'm not saying even a person.
[1:11:22] I'm saying like, good cump problem.
[1:11:24] Well, I assume with all of the various financial impacts,
[1:11:28] they must just follow the finance was involved to get these known.
[1:11:32] I'm not going to grow.
[1:11:36] I mean, I mean, it's always, I mean,
[1:11:38] If you look at the rules, it does say that JPS has jurisdiction of any kind of rules changes,
[1:11:46] but this can go hand in hand with rules, and I will always want people to lose in transparency.
[1:11:52] Not to say it should not go to personnel and finance.
[1:11:56] But again, the whole idea of more people seeing it before it gets to count before.
[1:12:00] That's why we saw it in JPS last term, is because it impacts the rules as well as the financial
[1:12:07] So I'll structure a little pounding, so that's a DNF, which makes perfect sense to me.
[1:12:14] So I'll just say in my two cents, in terms of if you have to report, if this has a gone
[1:12:21] through coefficient console, and there's little suffocations in here, I wouldn't want to know
[1:12:29] what are our legal teams.
[1:12:31] And if I would want much, I mean, I looked at this, but again, I looked at this.
[1:12:35] This is not your brief.
[1:12:36] No, I didn't write this so I did look at it. I don't want to be in this letter, I do it.
[1:12:44] By the way, Mary, I'm going to put a lot of research on the minutes.
[1:12:48] Videos of reading of past fours last term in order to see whether there wasn't a tent to include that,
[1:12:56] 75 dollars stipend for other than standing committee because a strict language says committee.
[1:13:02] But we have someone who was on it.
[1:13:04] So, yeah. And so, is that the intent? Yes. Yes. But even find any language or any video that
[1:13:12] confirms that. So, don't know. He's saying, I think the intent was just for the many chairs.
[1:13:18] Oh. And again, so, a chain ordinance that was passed as we've talked about. It's 28 to five
[1:13:24] by the county board supervisors approved only some stipend for committee chairs.
[1:13:30] But you know, I thought it was a version that that was the intent. Yes.
[1:13:34] Oh, yeah. I know there's reverse in that there. And what's their discussion that you
[1:13:40] could recall that would say we want only the chairs to have at least these committees,
[1:13:45] but not these other board commission, whatever they're with the others.
[1:13:52] Yes, of course. Thank you. The other bodies that we're not talking about,
[1:13:56] that we were like, yeah, no, we don't want those guys to have it. So I can, I don't know.
[1:14:00] There's a lot going on with that. So we don't know for sure.
[1:14:04] I can tell you what I did when supervisor Juan came to me. I was in all this Saturday and said,
[1:14:13] let me see where this was and this was reviewed Tuesday after Labor Day, 2023 and that meeting
[1:14:21] went past a lot of clock and hours was set on this and I told him that and I listened to all of it and
[1:14:31] I didn't hear any reference to all we want to give chairs of task force consortiums for this money.
[1:14:41] I didn't hear any of that.
[1:14:42] There were seven separate meetings for task force.
[1:14:46] We didn't go all of them.
[1:14:47] My office did.
[1:14:48] But fortunately, the county clerk's office had the minutes.
[1:14:53] I looked through the minutes.
[1:14:55] I didn't see any to suggest that.
[1:14:57] But, obviously, supervisor is one-
[1:15:00] And I've been told by some people that he thought that that was the intent. But then I would say, but the actual
[1:15:06] ordinance to pass, only that committee shares none of those others.
[1:15:12] It sounds like the time was the reverse of that, those, what you're saying to you.
[1:15:16] Is that that you intend to only committee standing committee chairs? That was, that was our
[1:15:21] charter. Was that we had to do just that for the committee to animate the couldn't go far
[1:15:30] other than that, if you're chartered, you can see on the, the, the, the, the, the gender, I think the ordinance, I know it was an ordinance spent time. Well, it was a resolution and established with that. Yeah.
[1:15:43] Yeah.
[1:15:44] For the task force itself.
[1:15:46] I would also agree with that, because we had a lot of conversations last term about committee submissions boards task force
[1:15:54] the tourist, the consortium, all of that. And from what I recall from conversation, one of the
[1:16:01] that it was going to be too much to look at all these things, there was concern that it included all
[1:16:07] these other groups that this is going to get very expensive, very fast. And I believe that's why we said,
[1:16:15] We're going to focus in on these areas.
[1:16:19] I believe we're just at weeks to do this.
[1:16:23] Right, I got a question.
[1:16:26] Right.
[1:16:27] Were you on that fast course?
[1:16:29] I was not.
[1:16:29] Oh, I didn't notice.
[1:16:31] Jim was.
[1:16:32] Jim was, yeah.
[1:16:33] Jim.
[1:16:33] I think he was.
[1:16:34] She was.
[1:16:35] She was.
[1:16:36] I think Karen powers for a small.
[1:16:39] She don't remember anything.
[1:16:40] She's been a little.
[1:16:42] Well, I'm just wondering because of the majority of you that were on it, but you all were not in so much.
[1:16:49] But I love there.
[1:16:53] I think you live on that.
[1:16:54] Well, I know this doesn't go on in fact, it's 26.
[1:16:58] This isn't as kind of early to do this. Why wouldn't we wait like six months?
[1:17:03] It was only, but it was in my mind, you know, coming after requests for the same thing.
[1:17:08] if I, well, you know, Brandon suggested to the two that we just
[1:17:14] grew up with a change right away and we did.
[1:17:17] I might as they do you want to.
[1:17:22] Yeah, because the sooner the better and then we get out of the
[1:17:27] things and we forget about, you know, generally, even if everybody
[1:17:33] voted is, that's it. It's not going to take a effect.
[1:17:39] But the last time though, maybe you were on that, did it go through personal finance?
[1:17:45] Yeah.
[1:17:46] We brought it the same way.
[1:17:55] It's my belief that it was intentional that it was only four chairs.
[1:18:03] Now, the committee chairs.
[1:18:04] Now, I think it's a fair conversation to be had.
[1:18:07] Should we not if we have this done?
[1:18:10] Should we evaluate that?
[1:18:11] that and someone who is doing a task force that's commissioned solely by the county, the county board,
[1:18:20] should they be allowed in that same level of compensation? Because it is a lot of work being
[1:18:26] a chair. I don't care what committee it is or what kind of effort it is. So I do think if people
[1:18:32] are doing extra work personally, we should compensate them if they're doing extra work. I've
[1:18:38] They're burnable for $25 for everyone for a variety of reasons, but I think we should be compensating people who are leading efforts at some level.
[1:18:48] Well, I'm chair of the University of Fox City's trustees of the University of Fox City's campus.
[1:18:54] First you know this, you know just a little bit closer than that.
[1:19:00] That's what I've been working for all of them.
[1:19:05] I had a lot of questions that are coming to the public and,
[1:19:11] and certain parties for use of the University of the United States,
[1:19:15] and things that were in some form this campus will continue to provide
[1:19:23] education, classroom, education.
[1:19:26] So I have a question for Carpression Council.
[1:19:29] I'm on the assumption that the chair has a lot of the county chair,
[1:19:34] has a lot of discretion. The county chair of various committees.
[1:19:38] No, the county chair.
[1:19:40] But we're not sure you can.
[1:19:41] Okay.
[1:19:42] Sure you can.
[1:19:43] It has a lot of discretion on who you pay.
[1:19:46] So, could we as a body say,
[1:19:50] task force,
[1:19:52] commissions,
[1:19:54] whatnot,
[1:19:55] if they're submitted that you would pay it,
[1:19:58] or is that,
[1:19:59] do we have to have that?
[1:20:01] I'm sorry.
[1:20:01] I'm talking about this term yet.
[1:20:05] Oh, you can't do it.
[1:20:06] It would have to have to be necessary.
[1:20:07] would have to be next to them because that's what's found in the statute.
[1:20:11] Got it. Okay. I'm going to make sure. Yeah. But I do have a
[1:20:13] plaque actually a question for you. Sure. So when you say $25 for DM
[1:20:18] stipend, right, for one of AGO County supervisors attending any
[1:20:21] authorized meeting of committee for its commission's task force and
[1:20:24] consortiums, which the supervisor has been really
[1:20:27] appointed. Does that mean that you're coming to not get this
[1:20:32] word in place? You would not get $25 because you're not
[1:20:35] will be appointed to JTS?
[1:20:37] Correct.
[1:20:39] No, no.
[1:20:40] You certainly didn't.
[1:20:41] I just want to go to just anything.
[1:20:43] Please, guys.
[1:20:44] I think that's what I'm going to do.
[1:20:44] Yeah, yeah.
[1:20:45] You think that's what we're talking about.
[1:20:48] This is good.
[1:20:49] But yes.
[1:20:51] All right.
[1:20:51] So I voted for it, right?
[1:20:53] Um, last term.
[1:20:54] But it's a significant increase.
[1:20:58] I just, I, I would have a hard time putting any more money on, on that, please.
[1:21:05] you know, that the extra $25, I feel like we're well-capitated for what we do, and if there's an issue of someone not attending the meeting, consistently, that I think that needs to be addressed in another way.
[1:21:20] I just, you know, like, I don't know.
[1:21:26] I apologize, I have appeared to have locked myself out of my computer.
[1:21:31] I mean some notes and some questions, so I'm the apologies for faulty memory.
[1:21:39] I research everything to death either.
[1:21:41] That's either for better forget.
[1:21:43] I have no problem with the premise of this.
[1:21:46] In fact, in part, I like to see the encouragement of engagement,
[1:21:51] So there are tendances at all of the meetings rather than hashing everything out at one time being on
[1:22:02] Good report, so I like the premise. Here's my my confusion in my research
[1:22:07] Is it is it proper right now in an ordinance because I'm wondering how it conflicts with rules
[1:22:14] and is this better put forward as a resolution.
[1:22:19] And I've made notes through detailed and more specific questions
[1:22:22] and I don't deny a plot.
[1:22:23] I don't have them, could you help me balance that?
[1:22:25] Or so the reason it's an audience is because this is the question.
[1:22:30] And the county code. So what the proper means is an important. There's no question. However, you bring up a very good point, because when you look at your rules,
[1:22:43] as everybody has agreed, a lot of boarded needed in those. So in the rules,
[1:22:51] Yeah. If you go to five point five, it talks about the chair shall receive the counting board chair, right?
[1:23:00] Yep.
[1:23:02] Um, shall receive five thousand per year plus per day in the vice chair shall receive.
[1:23:10] This is old.
[1:23:11] No, that's right. This is the 24 26 rules of the accounting website.
[1:23:15] Yeah, this is, I'm looking at the old one.
[1:23:18] But it's in there. Yeah, it is. It was, it was. Yeah, then we updated it.
[1:23:23] Yeah, sure, but it's not the supervisor's right.
[1:23:27] No, I know that, but it's, yeah, we need to fix that.
[1:23:32] But the new rules say, chair shall receive 1450.
[1:23:35] 1450. And the vice chair shall receive 700 from us now.
[1:23:38] So there was always a section in the rules talking about what to chair in the vice chair.
[1:23:44] There was no session in the roles as to what the chair of a committee.
[1:23:52] So, while there perhaps is reference in the code to certain things, it doesn't match what's in the role.
[1:24:00] So, arguably that task force.
[1:24:03] I want to look at that.
[1:24:05] And I know that about what you're going to look at each each chapter separately.
[1:24:12] But I mean, you've added something to this slide.
[1:24:15] Is there a slide where if we are doing that required a rule change, does this mean this particular ordinance is best postponed until or in conjunction with?
[1:24:28] I think to avoid confusion, it would be going to do it on a parallel track.
[1:24:33] Because what happens if this is passed and then the task force on rules looks at it and says,
[1:24:40] you know, what about this or what if we change this?
[1:24:44] And that means you're going to have to come back here, presumably, so that it aligns with the ordinance.
[1:24:51] I think there are clients in a lot of county business.
[1:24:53] All right, thank you.
[1:24:55] They didn't want to do that as a part of the task force.
[1:24:59] So tell you why, because anything that's voted on to the task force is a simple majority, just like in ordinance, if that is handled outside of the task force, the barrier is to to thirds, right?
[1:25:14] Yes, two thirds for the for the resolution for the rule, but still only a simple majority for the ordinance.
[1:25:22] Okay.
[1:25:23] I we ran into that last term with with the compensation for my.
[1:25:28] My point is how are we going to every going to hold up county business to wait for the rules test for us to get to it all the times.
[1:25:36] You know, you might wind up, you know, and then what happens if the rules get as far as passes, the changes, the sections, and you, you've been to changes, and then you need to come back as a board, you know, in the chapter.
[1:25:50] I mean, it would be different. I'm sorry, man. It would be different. It would be different. It's a current rules stated a certain amount for supervisor. It does not. So the rules were never meant to be, um, if it's not in there, you can't do it.
[1:26:05] That's why we also say if it's not in there that we go to Roberts, right, so we have that as well.
[1:26:11] So I would, I mean, I'm not clear, but I would say that because it's omitted that gives us the flexibility to be in order and go to the ordinance and say,
[1:26:21] don't we're paying everyone based on the ordinance knowing that this is yet another reason why we need to get our rules in order.
[1:26:32] And the rules, and actually Tory brought this up, and this was a very good point.
[1:26:38] If we're amending the rules, and we want to address it as supposed to setting out, okay,
[1:26:45] it's going to be that.
[1:26:47] If we could just refer to the county code.
[1:26:52] So, therefore, anytime there's a change, you don't have to keep coming back because you're going
[1:26:59] have a line item, a reference to the county goat. That's something to think. And that was a very
[1:27:06] good one.
[1:27:08] And I think that's something that the task force would be looking at.
[1:27:13] That's also, he's sitting when he's signing a contract.
[1:27:17] That's right. I just don't know if I can get that.
[1:27:21] I'm just wondering, based on this discussion, and with absolute who knows, and respect to
[1:27:28] supervisor Swan for this research and incorporation council. I always generally inclined not to post
[1:27:35] home things, but I am wondering if you would be open to a postponement. Sure, because it's
[1:27:42] that's something you would take effect on this. There are many way. I just want to forget about it.
[1:27:48] No, it will. Well, I think you bring up, I think you bring up a very valid point and to be fair,
[1:27:54] this would, if this was in place right now, this would impact me personally. So I have to, I just
[1:28:01] would fold the school, I'll be too similar to that. So, but to be fair, I think three times this
[1:28:10] term heard from supervisors that we voted ourselves the race and same premise with this that
[1:28:18] is not true. But I guess the reason that I voted in favor, I was not going to vote in favor.
[1:28:24] the task force that Chairman White told up to he and I had a discussion and he made it very
[1:28:29] clear that I was misunderstanding. We did not draw ourselves a raise. We voted the next
[1:28:36] board of our raise and there are many board members that are not like Betsy Allen Burger, not even
[1:28:42] on the board of the board of the task force that endorsed it. So just full disclosure,
[1:28:52] I keep that in
[1:28:54] I just wanted to make the point, and I appreciate supervisors who want to point about it.
[1:28:58] I don't want to delay things, because then we have this huge rolling delay delay.
[1:29:03] But as you say, it doesn't need to be acted on right away.
[1:29:08] And if we have the opportunity to say, yes, let's get these two things coordinated.
[1:29:13] It doesn't mean we're setting a precedent that we're going to do that.
[1:29:15] But in this instance, it might be the best precedent to be opposed to that.
[1:29:20] It's kind of unique and that you can't.
[1:29:22] It doesn't people and it's all next to me.
[1:29:25] Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, I do want to just echo the thanks for doing this work and doing this research on here and bringing it up, I appreciate it.
[1:29:37] I don't think that you know the county or yourself and increase the gauge for a long time for that 500 hours salary was implemented and so, you know,
[1:29:50] This piggyback is on top of that, but you know, we are in high inflation in your times too right now, so let's keep people interested.
[1:30:01] You mentioned it. This is very simple.
[1:30:08] That's not as committee. Are we allowed to table that to a certain date?
[1:30:14] Like on the board meeting, you can table it to October or whatever year. So what I'm trying to get it is if we could table this.
[1:30:24] I think there's a couple solutions to this one. That might be one of those.
[1:30:26] I mean, I don't want to throw in all the one I'd like to see that if you was real it.
[1:30:32] On the hesitant to bring it to a boat, I think, just see it.
[1:30:35] I know because it couldn't be brought up again.
[1:30:38] Yeah.
[1:30:39] That's that's there's a little bit.
[1:30:41] So you could do it or I could do it.
[1:30:44] Yeah.
[1:30:44] You could do that.
[1:30:45] And that would solve a one way or another.
[1:30:48] It's not correct for it.
[1:30:49] As a sponsor, you can pull it.
[1:30:51] That would, would it even be in favor of emotion of postponements until
[1:30:59] September and because we could always postpone again.
[1:31:03] Right, correct. I wouldn't suggest that they just pull it because if we postponed into a certain
[1:31:10] date, let's say work happens and we need to re-address this video to talk about it again.
[1:31:15] You know, the out of order since it's been postponed to a certain date to bring it up prior to that
[1:31:20] That's true. And I, I just asked you to close phone, you know, postpone to September and
[1:31:26] October because we're going to have a lot of our office and I'm going to be down.
[1:31:29] If they're illegal, so maybe November.
[1:31:33] Or if it's a poll, I just I agree with SuperBritish one, I don't want to speak more away.
[1:31:37] I'm going to have to postpone this specific date, but thank you with all of you guys.
[1:31:42] So I'll pull this, I'll pull this, I'm going to put it out.
[1:31:47] It would be good at some point to have conversations, I would like to see where people are at with adding this $25 per meeting for DM.
[1:31:57] Like, I think it would be my opinion pretty known, but I'd be just, I'm not tonight, but I'd be interested in the know where other people are added to that.
[1:32:05] Well, this is out there and people know about it.
[1:32:08] And I want to meet the discussions as soon as we go.
[1:32:13] As we go, we will meet the work.
[1:32:15] I absolutely appreciate the research.
[1:32:17] That's true.
[1:32:18] I think there's a fifth corporation account for it.
[1:32:21] It's a very detailed.
[1:32:23] The only follow-up I have, it doesn't need to be answered tonight,
[1:32:26] is the fiscal impact.
[1:32:28] Because you mentioned the $10,000.
[1:32:30] So it's in the agenda.
[1:32:35] It's not clear what the all fiscal impact is.
[1:32:39] 70s.
[1:32:40] You're still at a college.
[1:32:42] Yeah.
[1:32:42] 1950 and Washington, who you 20,000 in your recognition.
[1:32:49] 50,000 in the place in the budget, the richest.
[1:32:55] I can find him for all.
[1:32:57] If that meeting.
[1:33:00] I think painting.
[1:33:01] The 29, 1950 would be for County.
[1:33:05] For this commission's task for some concerns.
[1:33:08] and the additional 10 would include the outside groups.
[1:33:13] You're going to do those additional.
[1:33:15] You're best by read out.
[1:33:17] So that's why it does need to be clarified.
[1:33:19] Because this is like three different numbers that are quite different.
[1:33:23] And I don't know which one's the right one.
[1:33:28] I don't think so.
[1:33:29] I don't think so.
[1:33:30] I don't think so.
[1:33:31] I don't think so.
[1:33:34] Yeah.
[1:33:34] Thank you.
[1:33:35] Thank you.
[1:33:39] Thank you.
[1:33:44] That's very nice.
[1:33:46] I'm going on just a little bit.
[1:33:47] Thanks to you.
[1:33:49] All right.
[1:33:50] I think that you want to bring up let me know.
[1:33:58] In the other committees that we're going to know.
[1:34:02] We're going to take a minute.
[1:34:04] But you know.
[1:34:09] We're going to do a second.
[1:34:13] I'm going to say hi.
[1:34:14] Thanks for being here.
[1:34:17] I need to be warm.
[1:34:17] Thank you.
[1:34:18] Thank you.
[1:34:19] Take care.
[1:34:19] We're going to bed for you.
[1:34:20] Yes.
[1:34:21] I'm sorry, did not go.
[1:34:23] Sorry.
[1:34:25] We're going to bed now.
[1:34:26] You're getting ready.
[1:34:27] I don't even think that you can email the share up on the jail count.
[1:34:32] Yeah.
[1:34:34] We can walk up out.