[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:00] This is a call to order for the highway committee meeting. We'll start with the [0:04] Pledge of Allegiance. The flag is right back here. [0:12] Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. [0:17] Inclusionary public, which is sans, one nation, [0:21] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:26] Have an invocation here. [0:28] next week. [0:31] Thank you. [0:32] Dear Lord, we may we approach our work with wisdom, clarity, and a sincere desire to serve the safety [0:38] and well-being of those who travel, [0:41] grant us patience, cooperation, and steady guidance as we make decisions that shape our community's [0:46] roads. [0:48] Thank you for the safety during the tornado. [0:52] May our efforts lead to safe passage and strengthen connections [0:57] for the lasting good of everyone. [0:59] Thank you. [1:00] Madam [1:07] is public comments on the agenda items. [1:11] These are restricted to a limit of two minutes per person. [1:14] Do we have any comments from the public? [1:19] Well, I would like to say something. [1:21] Oh, yeah. [1:22] Okay. [1:23] I'm Jackie Silva, [1:25] I'm from S88 County, Roe E. Ashkash, Wisconsin. [1:29] We were just wanna thank him for putting some tile in, [1:35] because it's really working it's really dry even like Helene's and you know all [1:42] the way to oh Helene's place it's dry but by us it's still wet and I was [1:49] wondering if we were going to get anything done in front of our home [1:54] And because on March 24th, 2025, we were told by the Highway Commissioner that our tile [2:05] was going to be put in. [2:06] He said, I promised you tile and I'm going to fix it. [2:11] And I don't know if that's that we were left out or because I said I have pictures [2:18] there that you can look at. [2:21] Still pretty wet by us. [2:22] and it hadn't rained from I'd say the middle of July until the tornado and it really was always wet. [2:35] And it would have been nice if we could have had the tile put in front of our house. [2:41] Is it because of cost? We were wondering how much it cost for [2:46] we're doing that little bit of tile. [2:50] Did they use the whole 400,000 that they allotted [2:54] for the tile or we have questions about that. [3:01] So, sure. [3:03] And I do have the ID number on the video if you need that. [3:08] So you can look it up. [3:10] You want the ID number or not? [3:12] It's an ID and a record. [3:14] Then there'd be record two, seven, six, two, three, three, two, four, two, one, six, two. [3:22] So thank you. Thank you. And then I know you said the address, but what could you repeat the [3:28] address where these pictures are from? Oh, that's right in front of Jackson Merrill's home, and [3:34] I don't know off and he's just west of us. Ours is four, six, eight, and there's the next [3:41] House. The next House over. [3:49] Any other comments? I don't see anyone on the team's meeting. [3:57] If there's no other public comments, I would close that section of the meeting and I'll [4:03] entertain an approval for the minutes from the July 27th meeting. [4:16] All in favor say aye. [4:20] Okay, [4:22] so the minutes from July 27th are approved and now we'll move on to committee member comments. [4:32] Do we have any comments from the Highway Committee members themselves? [4:42] And we'll close that section and move on to the Highway Commissioner comments. [4:53] So we installed a drain tile, roughly 850 feet of 8 inch. [4:59] We went on the north side of E, roughly about where storm equipment is, [5:04] where there's two twin pipes there. [5:08] The contractor started the installation. [5:13] The first half of the installation, the ground was real dry. [5:16] the second half of that was very very saturated soil in there. [5:27] Once we once the [5:29] contractor got to Fenzel, they were gonna end the fight there. They found the [5:38] The Sanitary District has a manhole there. [5:43] They dug in there, they found a riser, [5:48] a sun-pump riser, just pouring water out. [5:54] Contractor called the Sanitary District, [5:56] got approval to put that into the drain tile. [6:02] The manhole was pouring out water too. [6:07] So put that drain tile, put that riser in that pipe, immediate at the outlet, it's pumping. [6:15] It's been continuously pumping since we put it in. [6:19] So needless to say, that area, that riser in that manhole has been where all the water [6:26] has been coming from. [6:29] The contractor told me that area that is saturated, he said it could take well over [6:34] a year to dry that area. [6:39] So it did dry up in that area. I mean, all it's doing is just [6:44] taking that water from the ditch and put it in the drink tile. It's all it's doing, which [6:50] is diverting it. [6:54] That's about the only place we have fall in the field. Go out there [6:57] notice we had to sink barrel in the ground to get fall in that area. So the rest of that out there, [7:10] we can stick all kinds of drain tile in there, but where we're going to daylight, [7:15] it's someone's going to get water. So end of the story, whatever we find upstream from that, [7:23] whether it's going to be another span pipe or a riser, we need a place to go with the water. [7:30] So I think the only option is to put a lift station in. I don't know if you know what kind of [7:36] costs that's going to bring. Very expensive. I'll give costs that I'll put in a lift station in. [7:44] But one thing too is that we didn't put a tracer wire in this drain tile. [7:54] We will register it with your salt line. [7:57] So every time there is a little cave, you have to pay for that. [8:00] So we already set precedence that we're putting drain tile anywhere there's water [8:05] on a county road. [8:06] The precedence has been set. [8:07] So how you want to move forward with this because there's places that have way [8:12] more water in it than here. So there's bigger issues we have to address and how [8:18] you want me to address those. You know, we can move forward with that. But [8:26] elevation-wise, I mean the contractor, same thing, we just put that where we [8:31] have elevation in there. We can clean up some of the ditches in there. We [8:37] still have them. We did backfill after the tile was put in. That rain has [8:45] settled down, so we'll go back out and we'll pull that material back in there [8:50] again, let that settle out. They don't want compaction, compacted soil around [8:56] those, so we'll have to naturally let that settle through. But definitely take [9:04] an opportunity to go out there and watch how much water is coming out of [9:07] that train tile that's stangered. [9:09] I don't know. [9:09] Where is that exactly? [9:11] Like where will I stop to look at that? [9:14] Right across from Storm Equipment, [9:16] probably roughly, I'm going to say maybe 600 feet west [9:24] of Clairville Road on the north side of the road. [9:33] So 600 feet west? [9:35] Yeah, roughly. [9:36] I mean, give or take. [9:39] There's two twin pipes that run under the road. [9:41] storm equipment is on one side, it's directly across the road from there. [9:48] Okay, [9:50] so like I said we did get the okay from the sanitary district to run that in there, [9:59] but the amount of water that was coming out of that structure was staggering and when we [10:07] The reason that sump riser was there is they put a pump in that, pump the water out so they [10:13] can get access into that structure. [10:16] So that's why it's there. [10:19] So the water is now going into the sanitation system and then going through wastewater treatment [10:25] or how, where does it go? [10:27] Put it in a drain tile. [10:28] In a drain tile to where though? [10:31] Where is it? [10:32] Open ditch. [10:33] Okay, so it's going into the ditch where it kind of gets into that. [10:35] And if I talked to Dan Ziegenhagen, there was actually no possibility of going through his property. [10:45] So he told me right to my face. I can get affidavits from people that were out there that witnessed him saying that. [10:53] I'm sure that's what you're going to want. You feel free to talk to Mr. Ziegenhagen with that. [11:00] but an easement through his property will limit him to anything he will do in [11:07] the future to his property, whether it's access that will greatly hamper anything [11:12] he would give to that property. Okay, so there is drain towel that's already in [11:19] there. I don't know how they're going to address it, you know, when and if that [11:23] time comes, but you know these are our options with there. I mean the [11:29] elevations. The only way we can do that is to sink those sumps. So if you go out there [11:36] and look at that sump, that drain tile is down in the ground and it's just bubbling [11:42] up through the sump. So like how deep is that? The drain tile? Yeah. That pump? Probably [11:50] three feet if that. There's not a lot of fall. It's very, essentially they ran that [11:57] flat from the outlet to the inlet. It's pretty much run flat. So right now the [12:04] only thing that's pumping that water is how much water is coming. It's pumping [12:08] through that, pushing it through. So like I said, all we did is we just took the [12:15] water from on the surface and it's in a drain tile. That's all we did. It's [12:20] just transferred that. That's where the water source is coming from. So you [12:25] you know, what's upstream, you know, there's hidden mists. [12:30] I mean, you know, down my horseshoe, [12:33] yeah, there's water down there. [12:36] You go past that, but roughly 125 feet is bone dry. [12:41] So it's very spotty out there. [12:44] I don't know, my hope is that the water [12:48] we're taking from that riser will drop that water table. [12:53] that would be my hole so yeah I mean that's where we're at with that. So then [13:02] the water is coming out of the ditch through the drain tile and it goes into [13:06] like what is that like honey creek or something like that that creek it runs [13:11] to like you tomorrow that's where it ultimately has to go. Well it starts at [13:15] and then runs down towards Clairville, roughly 600 feet away. [13:23] Where does it ultimately go? [13:27] It runs into the Ziegenhagen property through a ditch. [13:31] So right now, we took all that water, ran there, [13:36] it's running into that ditch, and then he's got drain tile in there. [13:40] So wherever it goes, remember it's his property. [13:42] Yeah I mean I don't okay so so yeah that's where it's going right now okay into [13:49] that property. [13:54] Bob do we have a policy in the future when utilities are extended [13:58] in our easement that they bet them in clay or bentonite so we don't create this [14:02] situation somewhere else in the future? Bob I'm just going to tell you by 32 [14:06] years we've never had an issue. Okay. Talking to the sanitary district they [14:13] have, they have other areas. This is not the only area. There's other targeted [14:18] and they know where they really are. Yeah. You know, it's one of those [14:24] things that, you know, whether do we hire an inspector for these projects, it's [14:32] going to come at a cost, but it'll prevent these from happening. Can we do [14:38] that as part of our permitting in our Colorado Bay, so that we don't get [14:42] stuck Kevin to try to deal with this afterward. Yeah, I mean definitely we [14:46] could look at that. I mean I think we need to look at at least yeah. I mean one [14:53] thing is the state statutes there's no state statutes that say you will have a [14:57] dry ditch. Right. There's nothing in there. [15:00] As long as it doesn't hamper the road base and they function, that's what the state statute says. [15:08] So, you know, if these ditches are no different than any other ditch that's on the county that may not be mowed, okay? [15:18] You know, but these are the areas that where we have these is where you come out of our rural area, [15:25] up urban setting into that rural, that transition area, [15:32] that's where you have these. [15:34] So, you know, and to be honest with you, [15:38] with Algo and Sanitary District, [15:40] with their water in there, you know, [15:44] the city of Oshkosh is gonna have no desire [15:47] to participate in extending a curb and gutter [15:52] out that far with solar sewer. [15:54] that's going to fall on whether the town of El Bulma and how much the county [15:58] wants to, you know, [16:02] are taking that. So there's not, I mean, there's not a lot of [16:05] options in the current being. This flat is, I mean, just like the previous [16:10] study said, it's about the elevation. There's just no elevation in there. [16:14] And like I said, the contractor, contractors that we had out there, they all said the same [16:23] thing. [16:23] There's no water. [16:24] Just like the engineering study said, there's no perfect solution for this. [16:32] And the contractor said the same thing, you know, I'm happy that we found that stand [16:39] that riser, because that's obviously that's where the water was coming from, you [16:46] know, to try to find, you know, where the source is coming from upstream. We could [16:53] search all the pipe that we did. We have a riser pipe in the ditch at Horseshoe, [17:02] and that water down in there is probably the other day it was down about [17:06] 10 inches. So, you know, and it has been dry. [17:12] But he said, I mean, our whole business is that [17:15] maybe we draw that water table down far enough at that area that it will alleviate that water for [17:23] that end. So, you know, those are some of the things. But like I said, you could definitely [17:31] tell when the contractor was digging, you had dry soil and you went to an absolute saturated. [17:38] So these areas have been saturated for, I mean, years, 15 years, whatever it's bad. [17:46] So to dry those out, it's going to take time to do that. [17:52] So- Is [17:57] it possible to make a comment or not? [17:59] Okay. [18:03] So that's what I had with that, questions. [18:11] So can I ask a question that was related to public comments? [18:16] This review? Yeah. Really, it's this project, correct? So where are they in vicinity and what you're discussing? [18:25] Further west. They're at the further extreme to the west. Okay. [18:30] And so what I think, I heard you say is that it's really hard to tell what's the right thing [18:38] to do right now because it's so saturated and you don't necessarily have anywhere, a place [18:44] where you might want to go, but you don't have permission to go in those areas. [18:47] Well, I mean, the one idea would have been is to go through Ziegenhagen property, get [18:53] easement and you lower that height as low as you can get. So even if we kept it in [19:02] the ditch and went down to eat, that water rise in that creek could have back [19:07] that water up and made issues worse. [19:11] It's one of those like I mean you know [19:15] it's not always that that creek is that dry but once there's water in there [19:19] you know, it could back up into that drain tile, doing it like that. So right now, you know, we [19:28] sunk that sump pit, that's how we were able to get the elevation. But like I said, there's, [19:33] it's flat, it's laid flat in there from, from that butt outlet to the inlet's laid flat there. [19:43] So, but the only way we could get that was to sink that in little sump pits, but right [19:49] now the pressure, there's so much water coming out of that, that's what's, you know, forcing [19:54] that water over that. [19:56] Otherwise we'd have to pump that water out of that little sump, but right now there's [20:00] enough water being forced through there that it's just, it's pumping out of there. [20:06] Can I share a screen? [20:13] I guess I'm not in the meeting. I guess I couldn't do it. [20:18] Well, if you're not in it, you have it. [20:22] Yeah, I'll try to do it. I'll try it next time. [20:26] I just wanted to see on Google Maps where it is from here to here, whatever. [20:34] I can send you that tomorrow. You want to? [20:36] all for sure. Yeah, that would be good. Yeah, I see where Fensel is and I see what I think is [20:46] where the section where it would be. But yeah, I'm going to drive out there and take a look. [20:58] Is there an average cost for a lift station approximate? [21:04] Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. [21:05] I mean, that's been a very, it's a cheaper side when you talk at lift stations like in [21:13] the city. [21:14] I mean, you're talking to millions of dollars. [21:18] So I mean, it just, it depends. [21:20] I mean, you were not talking, you know, how big of a structure you're going to put [21:25] into. [21:28] It's essentially, it's like you're some pump in your house and essentially that's [21:32] what it is. [21:33] and you gotta pump that water out to get that out of there. [21:37] So that's the situation we have. [21:38] We don't have enough elevation to get that water to go. [21:42] Winnebago County is very flat. [21:45] There's every single township out here [21:47] is having the same issues. [21:49] I mean, Brian, you can attest to that. [21:52] We've had plenty of issues out on F [21:53] and a lot of these roads, there's just, [21:56] you can take water and move it from one spot to another [21:59] but somebody's gonna get the water [22:02] and who you know so I mean if there was perfect place you could go with it I [22:08] mean I we've been doing this a long time it's not it's you know there's just [22:13] nowhere to go with it they're not always secure in the winter months either [22:19] trying to know I'm trying to find out of January we will find out just winter [22:23] during the spring what what happens so I'm just curious thank you [22:34] the tornado [22:35] cleanup obviously on Pauley Road A from Mutart up to a Della Beach that little [22:43] section in there when we went to Monashia that day we couldn't get up to [22:49] Nita because that tornado came through just that little section of Mutart [22:53] there and I don't want to say just that but that's where a majority of the trees [22:57] blew onto the road at A but obviously it affected the town of Nina that whole [23:04] area in there but a lot of those big trees on A were over the road in there [23:11] a lot of those have been cleaned up we moved up to AP and P we've been [23:22] through those numerous times. One day we were fighting on Cutter Road Pee, so I said we had [23:28] that construction project up there. Half of our project was completed, but half of it also got [23:36] destroyed. So when trees were down, people were driving on sidewalks through people's yards. [23:46] Once cleanup started, everything just got pushed out of the yards into the road on the sidewalks. [23:55] Utility companies cut down a majority of the brand of signs that were installed to get access to power. [24:03] So there's a fair amount of damage up there. [24:05] So we're going back and forth now, you know, whether, you know, on a project like this, [24:14] you know, how do we address the damage part of that? Restoration, the seeding. Fortunately, [24:23] a lot of the areas, the seeding came up really well, but it did blow a lot of the [24:27] ematting off of the road. So the emattings all rolled up. The grass is coming through. [24:35] we've removed a lot of brush and trees through that area. One thing too I'm [24:43] gonna throw out there is I'm getting a lot of bills from the other day I got a [24:48] bill for about $30,000 to the Woodbury County Highway Department for removing [24:52] trees on private property. I've talked to the companies on Illinois so [25:04] they told me they're in Indiana working on tornadoes in that area so I haven't [25:11] been able to get hold of the owner to find out but as of right now I mean we [25:16] got about $30,000 in charges that were charged to us so working on getting [25:21] those cleared up from what I gathered was the vendor the contractor was in [25:28] there may, I don't know if they had permission to come to trees on this property or not, [25:35] but they didn't have any building address or anything, so they just went on GIS and pulled [25:39] up the parcel description and then just assumed that the road was Winnebago County, so working [25:49] through that I have a feeling maybe we're probably going to see more of those. [25:54] I'll keep working on those to take care of those. [25:58] Obviously, I mean, we're not gonna pay them. [26:02] I'm hoping that we can address this [26:05] without going through Marianna Corporation Council [26:08] and making this a big thing. [26:11] I'm pretty confident that working with the contractor [26:17] should be able to figure that out. [26:18] I mean, it's private property, we didn't authorize it. [26:21] So I'll keep working on that. [26:25] The Monash shed, we did get all the debris cleaned out [26:30] of that lean-to area. [26:35] We did start taking salt deliveries today. [26:40] Salt got delivered today in Oshkosh, [26:42] but we needed to get salt into that shed up there. [26:46] So, I did talk to the original contractor that built the facility. [26:55] He will be in town Thursday to start working on an estimate for that. [27:01] So we have all the debris cleaned out of that. [27:04] We will get our chloride tanks moved out of there, so it will be wide open for the [27:11] contractor to get in there. [27:12] So are we talking about the salt shed? [27:14] Yeah, no, okay, yep. [27:16] So Thursday, he should start in that. [27:19] I did get, I project managed that, [27:24] we the county built it, built that for the state. [27:30] All the paperwork I had, I gave to the DOT, [27:32] I did get that back, [27:33] but the contractor does have all that. [27:35] So he has all the electrical sheets, [27:39] he has everything. [27:40] things. So should be able to get prices for that really quick. So I'm hoping by [27:48] the middle of next week or at the end of next week that we have some prices [27:52] coming in to get that. My hopes are that we can get the salt shed roof patch [27:59] back in, put the sheeting on the side that we can at least get salt inside [28:03] and then we'll be in two part we can work around that if we have to if it [28:08] drags into, you know, December, we can work around that. [28:13] So it's good that we're able to get hold of that contractor [28:19] with that and that should expedite the whole process here. [28:25] So I've been working with Andy Jennings [28:28] with risk management the whole process through this. [28:31] So I said I'm hoping that by the end of next week [28:35] that we're well on our way to get that taken care of up there but one thing is [28:41] though is these areas that we are cleaning it up in Monashia you know we [28:46] clean up and the weekend comes and it's filled back in so and this is it's [28:51] gonna it's this isn't gonna happen next week we're gonna be finished this is [28:55] gonna drag on you know some people just you know whether you know they [29:00] work out of town and didn't have the time to clean up but they're [29:02] starting to get to the cleanup process now. So, um, so that it'll be a, I would [29:08] imagine they're going to fall, you know, it's not going to be as widespread a [29:14] cleanup, but we still will get the occasional trees coming out. And so we'll [29:19] keep working on that as we, um, as we keep finish up on that. [29:25] Are you talking about like picking stuff up that's like out on the curb [29:29] or with stuff like that. [29:31] I mean, you started out with the brush, [29:35] but now you're getting tires, you're getting concrete, [29:37] you're getting full stumps. [29:42] Whole houses were pushed out on the, [29:45] so that's the type of debris you're looking at now. [29:48] So now you're getting like furniture and, [29:53] so it's different debris. [29:54] It's not like the brush and the trees, [29:57] we keep separate and that's a cheaper. [30:00] But when you start getting into the demolition part, then the price goes up with that. And so, [30:06] you know, we're, we're, we are working with the local, you know, city of Manascio, Village [30:11] of Fox Crossing up there. You know, the, we have jurisdiction on the roads, but those [30:19] people are in those local areas. But, you know, we, we just can't leave the materials [30:25] sit out there. I mean we have an obligation to keep the roads open and safe and that that's what we're [30:30] doing. So could you help me understand like how that works? Like I'm trying to envision like what [30:37] that means. Like a truck comes by and guys just kind of load this stuff into like a dump truck or [30:44] how are we cleaning up? Yeah, how are we? How's that? So we have our pay loaders, [30:49] our wheel loaders. [30:50] Oh, okay. [30:51] And they got Clam buckets. [30:52] Yeah. [30:53] And so we go out there, you take that bucket, [30:57] you load those up and then we load them into a triac [31:00] or a quad axle dump truck. [31:02] Oh, and then we haul them up to Audigini County [31:04] on the landfill. [31:06] Okay, cool. [31:07] So, yeah. [31:12] And that's something else we'll talk about too, [31:14] is we're borrowing two Clam buckets. [31:18] Highway Department doesn't have those. [31:20] so we were borrowing those from Solid Waste, we're looking at purchasing one of [31:26] their used ones right now. The one we were using, they sold the loader that went [31:33] with that loader, but it's somewhere to talk about later coming up that we're [31:38] probably gonna have to look at, you know, purchasing a grapple bucket like [31:44] that for situations like this. So it's a whole other thing we'll work on, but [31:48] But that's how the process works when we're cleaning up up there. [31:55] Last thing I had was the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration. [32:00] It's called the Drug and Alcohol Clearing House. [32:05] So back in 2020, the federal government came out with this clearing house and basically [32:15] what it is is for anybody that has a CDL that drives a commercial vehicle. [32:23] What it does is that [32:25] there is companies out there that say somebody does have a violation with their drug and alcohol [32:30] testing. [32:33] Before it even gets in the system, they're quitting employers and then moving on to the [32:39] one. And they're not catching up to these. They keep jumping. So we've never had a situation [32:49] like this. This is one of those that there's probably very few people out there that this [32:54] affects. But obviously, they implemented this program. So we've pushed it off as long as we [33:02] could. But now we have to comply. So I've been working with human resources. So we set a date [33:08] of September 1st to have all this information in. So what this is doing is each one of our [33:15] employees has to set up an account. They go online, they set up their own account and it's [33:23] their email, they're in charge of that. So if they would ever have a violation on their drug [33:31] drug and alcohol testing, they have to update that on their site and that is their account [33:45] that follows them. So, but one thing the county has to do is once a year we have to do a query [33:50] on all our employees. We have to go in there and make sure every one of our employees [33:55] is it doesn't have any violations. With that, like I said, we've never had an issue with [34:02] this in the past. I don't foresee this being anything different with that, but it's just [34:09] one of those that we have to abide by those. And so we will get in before the deadline [34:17] and meet everything in there. [34:19] So, like I said, this is the few bad apples [34:25] that are out there that are causing this, [34:31] but essentially when it comes right down to it, [34:33] like I said, is you will log in there, [34:36] we will do our query once a year that we're required. [34:39] If anything comes up on that, [34:42] we'll notify the employee, [34:44] they should be well aware of that. [34:46] But that's kind of what's going on, where we did, we met with all our employees, everybody [34:53] knows about it, we set the September 1st deadline. [34:58] As of today, we've got maybe three or four people. [35:02] So what they have to do is they have to log in to the site, set up their account, and [35:07] then there's two separate forms they have to sign, and all that is giving permission [35:15] for Winneville County to do a query to check that. So they set up their account once that account [35:24] is in there and then once we get those forms back everything's done. Like I said we only have three [35:32] or four people that still have to do it. Some of them have been on different jobs and so they're [35:38] back this week so we should have all this taken care of in plenty of time before that September [35:44] September 1st, our September 1st deadline, [35:46] that we wanted this all done. [35:48] So kind of interesting. [35:54] So is this one with a CDL or? [35:56] Yes, any with the CDL. [35:58] And how many, how many? [36:00] So I have a CDL. [36:02] So I filled mine out and like online takes about 10 minutes. [36:09] We kind of, we made up some, we cleared off, [36:12] We printed out directions for each employee and then gave them those forms to sign. [36:20] So we had options some which I didn't know that but we do have some employees that are in areas [36:27] that do not have internet access which puzzles me that we still have communities that don't have [36:36] that. But then we will provide time for them to log into our system and that. So, like I said, [36:44] we'll need a couple. So, yeah, our hope is by the end of this week that everything is in and done [36:55] and put that in the rearview mirror, so, um, and that. [37:06] So, you said that's an annual thing. [37:09] Correct. [37:10] How does an annual thing for them to do? [37:12] No, once it's a one-time registration, but it's an annual for Winnebago County to do the query on their employees. [37:21] So, if an employee leaves employment at the county, wherever he goes, he will take his account. [37:28] And then he has to talk to his owner and they have to put him in their system and [37:34] Get access to their their files. So [37:38] So, yeah, this sticks with that employee wherever they go. It's there's the manage and [37:46] Kind of things does that track that's outside of like that the DMV would not have on record [37:53] So basically you're drug and alcohol testing. Oh [38:00] I'm sure you heard some of those stories that somebody may have violated, tested positive, [38:11] but it's not until their court date that it's actually guilty, so that kind of drag can [38:17] drag on for a long time so you know I'm sure you know people can get clever how [38:25] they do that drag it out right before the court date seek other employment [38:33] somewhere and they don't know that so like I said I don't think we're ever [38:39] going to have to test these waters I think it's just one of there's a few [38:43] people that this around the country that this has happened and this is how [38:47] they're going to, you know, take care of that. So, [38:56] okay, I [39:00] think that wraps up the [39:01] commissioner comments. Then we have no business items on the agenda. Our next [39:10] meeting date, oh gee, I forgot to look what that was. September 28th. September 28th. [39:17] I looked it up. Oh, okay, thank you. September 28th. [39:24] Okay, I just, oh, I had [39:25] I'm sorry, I had a question for Bob. [39:29] Would it be possible for us to do like a highway shop tour, [39:33] like a tour for the committee here? [39:36] Absolutely. [39:36] Yeah, we'd like to get something together, [39:41] like an afternoon or something like that. [39:44] Yeah, OK. [39:45] Is that, like, how long would that be, you think? [39:50] I think when we did Coney Board, it was like, [39:53] I think we kind of had an hour. [39:54] and that was like pushing it but I think it would be great for you to go [40:01] through there and see these issues that we're having right now and why we're [40:05] looking at you know this adding on or you know help us because I think you [40:12] once you come through there and see our equipment and see what's going on you'll [40:16] give you a better grasp when you start looking at our options of what they're [40:20] to do all of their sold. [40:23] If you just let me know, say an hour of just pushing it, that means it's not enough or [40:28] that's too much time. [40:30] When you said an hour would be pushing it. [40:33] I think an hour might not be enough time, an hour and a half, an hour and a half, okay. [40:38] And then we can, at least we can touch everything on the growls. [40:41] Okay. [40:41] And you can see it. [40:42] I hate to, like, you know, not show you something and then when the budget time [40:47] comes around when we start talking about the building you know it's your committee that [40:52] hey you did see this and you can say hey I saw this myself the issues that that were out there so [40:58] okay we'll try to set something up and then we'll move that forward a little bit okay yeah [41:05] sounds good otherwise there's no other comments I'll entertain the motion to adjourn [41:15] So move to adjourn. [41:21] Second by Supervisor Gostasen. [41:26] All in favor say aye. [41:28] Aye. Aye. Meeting adjourned. Thank you. [41:35] I assume any two are involved in the meeting. [41:48] Okay, all right, so.