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They have it over there. So I saw it in
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don't use any of the software
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for their comp or anything.
>> Can you hear me?

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» They don't use any of that.
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» They just use color.
>> Just so you know, the meeting is being

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>> Yep.

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» There's three of us here.
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» Thank you, Fatima. So, I talked to the
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about the same size as us and uh
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» they're using it. Yeah. And they they
tried both looked out and they wanted to

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go with the same one and they've had it
for about eight years now.

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» Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And he said, "You'll be

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amazed." He was like, "You can use a lot
more of the the software and stuff to

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it, but they use the bare bones because
that's all they need." But he said like

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Cedar Rapids landfill, they put in
boundaries every day and they try to get

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all that garbage in the exact boundary.
He's like, "We don't do that because

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we're so small, you know, but they're
taking in five times as what we are a

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day." Uh, but he said, "You'll be amazed
when you get the first month's report,

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then second month's." He said, "You
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just to get a better compaction rate."
So, yeah. So, I'm going to talk to him

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down. He's going to be at the October
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him stuff. More people down there. Yeah.
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in summertime, try the water sprinkle.

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» Yeah. See what it is.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we can tell when

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we use the water, you know, we just
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We'd like to see is it does it go from a
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or 1,800 or 2,000. What do we get?
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stuff and we know when we get into the

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stuff that we added water to,
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with our excavator because it's just all
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» You see all the stuff down there on mine
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The rock.
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» I don't know what they must have blown.
They must have blown out the weekend.

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Yes,
>> they're drilling.

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They blew that one first front part of
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» You notice? Yeah, that was all down this
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down through the side there blasting.
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time they've drilled
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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. They had a lot of holes up there

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last week.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.
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close together and then they didn't have
the blast as hard or as hard in terms of

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the buildings there.
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that section on the on the cover side
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there at that intersection when they
blew it, you know, just getting it was

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just a puff of smoke and fractured it.
There was nothing.

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» Oh, just
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the inside. There's not They didn't need
to put up any blasting or anything like

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that to keep
>> Yeah, that was just looked like just a

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little mushroom.
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out of the gravel. you know where they
took out part of the road a little bit

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but
not that big the front there's a lot of

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» Oh yeah that's another thing the
landfill I'd like quite a huge crusher

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pressure down to three inches you know
see how it works because we're getting

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into six foot slabs right now over
you know so but we'll

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with all our money either,

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you know.

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But yeah, so it's going to take
take a a month or so to get the

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equipment put in for the GPS, but uh he
said two to three weeks, but I'll give

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it a month.
>> Training for the operators next to

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nothing.
>> Next to nothing. and and training's free

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for two years. So, he added he added
that in and he added in software uh for

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two years. So, there's software support
updates and everything. Um he added that

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in for two years
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» Yeah.
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» Yeah. Eight grand.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, Tim, if

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if we gain airspace, you know, that
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» Yeah. Even this 142,000
uh will be paid for,

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» you know, short amount of time. And how
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it was like jelly.

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» Yeah. And and get
the moisture drags out.

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» Yeah. until that moisture goes down.
We're going on top of it today in our

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wet weather area and it's still soft.
We got we got 4 foot dirt on top

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just trying to bridge uh but it's it's
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» um 1100 ton about 2.2 million pounds
in a week and a half. Yeah. And I had to

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work on the compactor last week again.
Another hose broke. And the one time one

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time uh you know adult diaper came down
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this time it was maggots.
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» Oh yeah. I was underneath of it about a
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Now last week it was maggots that went
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rotten meat.

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He was just stuffed up in his belly pan,
you know, taking it down. You got

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it's part of, you know, that's part of
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out now, you know.

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you know, and that's that's part of our
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Everybody's in there doing it, you know,
not just me. So,

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» yeah. In the Northwest, did they fill up
after all that flood debris and

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everything else did they fill with is
that already land?

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» Yes. Um, so they had to build a new new
cell earlier than what they wanted.

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» Oh, but they were they had ability to
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» Yep. Yep. They acquired land to build uh
onto their exist.

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So, but yeah, that was
and that's where they offered me a

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position, you know, and the other guy
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wouldn't know."
But you don't know on disasters, you

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know.
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» We have a if we have a major disaster.
Hope we don't. I mean, we're going to

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fill up. Granted, we have 15 to 18 years
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we have a major disaster that might take
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years, you know, depends how many
counties get,

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» you know. So,
yeah, I can't remember what county that

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was now.
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» God darn it, I got a
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» It was up the town, but I can't
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Yeah, because he has that manager has
relation his daughter lives in Spis

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married.
They live in Spish,

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35.
>> Yeah. Well, we got we got buggy brigade

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last couple years
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double buggies.

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» Yes, that's
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Do they really?

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» It's ridiculous. Yes, exactly.
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» That's a nice house, too. I mean, nice
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seeing

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» letter of intent.
>> That's what I do.

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a fortuary.
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who heard.
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I don't think that's I don't think
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» Be nice if somebody look back at
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» Yeah, I don't know. I guess
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it,
>> which is good.

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» that's good.

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» All right.
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» Careful with all that garbage.

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» Just don't crawl underneath excavators.
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» Bam.

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What's your prediction when you start?
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there's
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» Yeah,
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which.
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» I wanted to get it concrete over

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» right now that's
feels over the last one we've been

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talking Mike why

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this like to overlay on there
sooner than it's just

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it should be

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part of the issue is

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» it's going to be a couple years,

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» but

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the dating institute
as API

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um and they have they want to do
an expensive high pro.

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So like do I do that
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» So it's always cracked. So that I don't
the cost benefit on that. I don't have

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the kind of things that I'm sure right
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» Yeah. Two, four,

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» a little bit. What did you have? Uh,
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So they're having electronic

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not sure what they got going but
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is concrete.

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about

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trying to make the workers
help.

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» Full extension.
>> Uh yeah, I can do a 90,

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» but it's still there's I'm still they do
the measuring.

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» Yeah, I mean

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somebody in the audience
>> I did the other one. So I'm glad I

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didn't. The other one feels straight
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Yeah.
Oh, by the population

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makes sense.

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usual. What else? Why?
That's the uh Yeah, I get pulled over by

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Anton's
um Anton's dad.

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» Yeah, friend's dad.
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about three weeks ago.
>> Just said he thought it was

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» I was going everybody else was and then
wants to slow downbody else.

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» He does. He does.

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the mail.
>> And I don't honestly don't

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just an hour and a half or less.

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Well, it's 9:30. All so choose. Please
stand for the pledge.

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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Call the meeting to order with everyone
present.

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» Reminder, the meeting is being recorded.
If you choose not to be recorded, you

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have the option of leaving. First item
on the agenda this morning. Michael

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Kuny, our county engineer. Go ahead,
Mike. Um, not a whole lot to report on

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this week, generally speaking. Um, the
build grant, still have heard nothing uh

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on from the DOT on on that. Um,
subdivision, there's nothing new this

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week. Worry Hill, there's nothing new
this week.

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Bridge 307, there is something new. It's
now open. So, that's good.

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» It's new. That's great. That's been
closed for what? Four years, five years.

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So that's now open.
Um British crew uh worked on B16 Culver

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last week. Um
haven't confirmed with the uh

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superintendent what they're working on
this week with the weather and the

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short. So, don't know about that yet.
Uh, the Scoopit uh is headed to Locust

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this week. Uh, the Dura Patcher is still
above Locust this week.

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» Hey, Michael, did you get the new head
that brush head for the scoop yet? Uh

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the
he will be out the it's in Deuke so we

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have to outfit the um the scoop to
>> work with it with the the upgraded

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hydraulics and everything else. So
short answer is no. We haven't got it is

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in Martin Equipment's hands for us to
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start getting in fall season.
>> Yep. We're looking at an opportune time

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to do that. Correct.
Um annual report. I don't have anything

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new to report on that. I have to update
it uh for the DOT.

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Um something I did not report on last
week that is uh important is the FHWA

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bridge audit occurred on August 26th.
Our bridge inspector passed with high

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regards from the FHWA. So, our bridge
inspector is uh Chuck Britz and Brian

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Mcomes. So, that was good to hear. They
agreed with all of your assessments.

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Um,
three insurance claims instead of two

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insurance claims have now been filed
with IAP for accidents involving the

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road crew.
I will try to update you uh via email.

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Um the loan for 600,000 is still
reflected in the secondary red fund

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balance. Hoping to have that paid off
either this month or next month.

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Um bridge 126 final port was on Friday,
August 28th.

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That job very efficiently.
Uh Frankfold Road in place operation is

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finished. Um it is setting now. 4 in
overlay will likely begin I'll say in

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one week.
Um sidewalk work is being done while

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hold in place is setting and the traffic
study for 60 m per hour treatment is

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ongoing.
And then finally everybody has a bid tab

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for
the ice control bids. Um fuel bids are

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still outstanding uh here in a couple
weeks. So the the ice control rock um

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we increased the the tonnages in a ocean
and Freeport with the idea that we would

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use some of that uh as a way to base
stabilize some of our higher traffic

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gravel roads.
Um the per the per unit price is up

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about 10% over last year
with fuel prices

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Uh that's kind of
was not unexpected how that's how I can

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put it. Um so I recommend
um ice control

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the uh boarding of burning rock products
for the ice control pile at $223,176.50

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for all six shops.
How much did you increase the auction in

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Freeport?
>> Um the auction shop was 500 and the

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Freeport shop was 1,000.
>> So previous year it was 2,000 across the

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board.

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I move to approve the
control bid. Second. Have a motion and

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second to approve the Ice Rock bid for
Brooming Rock Products in the amount of

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223,000
$176.50.

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Is there any further discussion?
All those in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Those oppos same sign passes unanimous.

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Thank you.

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And that's the report.
Have very busy internal

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work going on right now. So there are
questions regarding the report. I be

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happy to take them.
>> Have you looked at anything out by the

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Catholic cemetery there? Um I spoke with
the CUNIS um and I've worked with even

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before I talked to them I've been
working with the um city of the change

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that speed limit uh sign that they have
there at 35 miles per hour. I did this

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as part of my work for the 55 to 60 mph
and when I talked to them about that

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they were very happy with that idea and
so

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I left the communications there. They
seem to be very very happy with the 35

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mile per hour recommendation. Um I will
probably going in front of the uh city

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of Lora with that finding.
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city spilled city council will be
approving that intersection change there

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at the memorial
that left turn or the right turn.

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» You're coming if you're coming
southbound on W14 into school mill right

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there by the bank. There's a the
truckers are everybody's been supposed

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to stay right and go around memorial
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straight through and a lot of lot of
folks just want to go straight through.

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That puts the sheriff's department into
a real quandry because they get these

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complaints and they don't think it's
justifiable that they have to give

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warnings. So, it's been lots of phone
calls over the years to the sheriff's

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office that are really unnecessary. I
met with Michael and so the idea is to

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simply move that sign, paint a curb on
the east side for no parking so that the

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other vehicles coming from Protoin on
B16 can make that with the turning

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radius can make that turn without some
impairment and everybody's pretty much

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did polling it's pretty much in favor.
So it'll just be done.

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» Okay. The only question is how far did
you want the turning radius blocking a

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curb as far as the intersection by the
bank on the would be the north side of

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that intersection.
>> I'd have to

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» I'll stop by.
>> Yeah, stop by. I'd have to kind of nail

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that down. I'd have to kind of see what
it is you're talking about exactly.

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» Want to get it marked out
because it'll be a relief for the

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sheriff's department.

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Anything

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else?
>> Did you guys ever look into taking my

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cow crossing out on 42?

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» We I know we looked into doing some work
on there, but I don't know exactly how

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to answer that question.
>> Fair enough. So, um the

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I think the person you need to talk to
is Mike Weise in our office. You can

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swing by and talk to him because he
worked all of that out with the uh the

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farmers there. So,
>> because I'm sure there's some sort of

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agreement for the battle
>> that discussion I had with him about two

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or three weeks ago and I just it's I'm
drawing a blank right now. I'm sorry.

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» No, that's fine. I can stop and talk. So
yeah,

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somebody was asking about the little
calmer road kind of what's going to be

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done. Talk to Michael.
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complaints now that the um now that the
traffic from Highway 9 is being pushed

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onto Middle K Road a little bit. And
even before that happened, I was in

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discussions with the um I will Iowa
asphalt paving association

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uh as a way to
perhaps overlay the concrete with

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asphalt. What my best options were.
The suggestion was to go with a what's

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known as a hypro asphalt uh
layer on top of that on top of the

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current concrete that would allow it to
be more resilient to the the cracks that

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would come up from the concrete into the
asphalt. Um that's expensive long term.

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The best thing would be um more
concrete.

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Um that's going to
>> that would be over

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» the that would be a 2 inch would be yeah
be a 2inch overlay be that high promax.

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Um,
so

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the next
the next thing I would be the best thing

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would be would be to have a concrete on
top of concrete, but that's just just so

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much money and it's going to I'm trying
to save up my um FM balances. And if we

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do, if we were to put that concrete in
place

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at today's prices, we would wipe out a
whole bunch of other projects all around

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the county. So, I'm pretty much
relooking at what it is that we're going

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to do there. Um, because I do want to
push that forward. I want to make sure

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that we do get it before we'll call it
2030. Um

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it's it's just a reassessment here just
the deterioration of W42 south of Ashen

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the the W14 south of fort uh that
funding being up in the air and then

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um you know old stage is going to rear
its head uh here 2014 on Ridgeway.

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Yeah, that that that one is

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I don't have a silver bullet for that
one.

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» So,
>> um I know I know everyone wants gravel,

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but I'm again if we if middle calmer
people can live some cracks in some

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asphalt. Maybe we can also get to W14.
This is all long-term solutions here

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that I'm talking. How much more is the
cost on that asphalt you're talking

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about coming over?
>> Um

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I don't want to speak out loud because
uh I

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when I asked the same question
um they were hesitant to give but the

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the rough number on a weight average is
about 60% more.

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So,
I don't want to I don't want to

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» Yeah,
>> I don't want to pigeon hole the the I

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don't have the asphalt numbers. I don't
have high pro numbers. You have to take

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bids. It's highly variable. Um but we're
looking at 60% more on a per

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is it square yard basis. So,
>> interesting.

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What's your only 2?

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» Well, the
you would still need a 2 inch and then

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you would do you would surface coat with
that. So, it's Oh,

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» yeah.
>> I see two layers.

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» It's still two layers. You're not
getting on the two layer stuff. So,

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» it's just two inches of the expensive
stuff. that it it's that it's 2 in then

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it's a intermediate lift then it's the
one in so

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you're dealing with
yeah it's

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none of the options are screaming this
is what I want to do uh with any surgery

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on that so it's it's unfortunate that
way and it's a long road so the other

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problem with the concrete overlay is
that is looking into this. There's a

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couple of bridges

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have low clearance that that should
probably need rehab um if we go with the

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concrete. So that's the other
outstanding issue on that. So

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» yeah, this is I'm I'm hoping to, like I
said, crack this nut

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sooner than I'm not just trying to put
this off here. Okay. So,

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all right. Does anyone have anything
else for me?

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» Thank you. Y

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committee reports

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juvenile detachment

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» recycling committee meeting
>> Wednesday

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» Saturday historic preservation
commission here at 8:30

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and
>> PNC meets here at 7 o'clock tonight.

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» It's a public hearing for that

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» sign agenda.
>> Yes, we have the monthly report from the

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recorder. We have a class C retail
liquor license for Ktown TAP and we have

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the board minutes from August 31st. I
move to approve the consent agenda.

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Second motion and a second to approve
the consent agenda. All those in favor

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say I.
>> I.

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» Pull same sign.
This is unanimous.

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And this uh this is I don't know what
this is something from hacker Nelson

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and you probably have been briefed on
it. Essentially what it's saying is that

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they just need extra signatures. So they
have Ben's signature and Dan if you want

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to sign this. And when Ben shows up
he'll if there's anything you need to

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explain

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of them that has both your signatures on
it. So you're on there as chair of the

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board of supervisors.

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But as to the content of that, if
there's any questions, he'll be able to

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that.
I think it's probably your p your

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contractual relationship with them that
performing audit.

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Just need a little extra.

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That's it for the audit science.

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What are they with the uh services
upgrade for moving?

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» Yeah.

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» No, it's not in there.
>> Are they over here? Not here. Yeah.

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» Maybe their direction ought to be
changed. So back over there at community

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services. I don't think that is a high
priority by comparison. Would you agree?

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» No. I'll talk to

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Still shooting for the end of month.
Yeah,

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just coming right up.

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» Yes, you have a third reading in the
resolution

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declaring emergency medical services an
essential service at 9:50. Steven,

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» I move to approve of resolution for
emergency medical services.

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» Second.
>> We have a motion and a second to the

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third reading of the resolution
declaring emergency medical services an

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essential service.

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I hi

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the reading
push over again.

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That's a little unfair.
>> I'm glad you did the last one.

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» Steve,
can't stay awake, can you? Nope. Not at

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all.

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» While we're waiting, thank you again for
your years of service to this company.

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» All right, here we go for the third and
final time.

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A resolution declaring emergency medical
services an essential county service

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designating county EMS association as
the county EMS system advisory council

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and initiating the process for board
consideration of an emergency medical

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services tax levy pursuant to Iowa's
code chapter 422D

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whereas emergency medical services EMS
are critical to the preservation of

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life, reduction of disability and
protection of the public health, safety

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and welfare of the residents of Winnishi
County, Iowa. And whereas Wishi County

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is a predominantly rural county where
timely access to emergency medical care

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is heavily dependent upon the
availability, sustainability, and

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coordination of the local emergency
medical services agencies.

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And whereas emergency medical services
providers face increasing operational

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challenges including workforce
shortages,

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rising costs of equipment and training,
increased call complexity, and declining

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volunteer participation.
And whereas Iowa code chapter 422D

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authorizes the county board of
supervisors upon adoption of a

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resolution declaring emergency medical
services to be an essential county

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service to submit to the voters the
question of imposing an emergency

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medical services tax
including a borium property tax and

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whereas Iowa code 422D.1
1 2 B requires counties adopting such a

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resolution to coordinate with local
emergency medical services agencies to

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establish a county emergency medical
services system advisory council to

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assist in researching, assessing, and
guiding EMS service delivery within the

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county.
And whereas the Wesy County EMS

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Association is an established countywide
organization representing emergency

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medical services agencies within Wishik
County and is governed by duly adopted

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bylaws and regulations. And whereas the
board of supervisors finds the Wesy

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County EMS association is uniquely
qualified to serve as the county EMS

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system advisory council as contemplated
under Iowa code chapter 422D.

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Now therefore be it resolved by the
board of supervisors of Wesia County

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that section one declaration of
essential service emergency medical

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services are hereby declared to be an
essential county service in Wesik County

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Iowa pursuant to Iowa code 422D.1.

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Section two, designation of county EMS
system advisory council pursuant to Iowa

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code 422D.12B.

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Wishy county
EMS association is hereby designated as

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the Wishi County Emergency Medical
Services System Advisory Council. The

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advisory council shall consist of the
association's dulyapp appointed board

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members selected and serving in
accordance with the association's bylaws

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and governing res regulations.
Section three duties of the EMS system

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advisory council. The advisory council
shall serve in an advisory capacity to

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the board of supervisors and shall
research and assess EMS needs, guide

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system implementation, recommend funding
amounts for ballot propositions, prepare

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annual reports, and participate in
public meetings as required by Iowa code

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422D.12

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C.
Section four, initiation of EMS tax levy

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process. The board declares its intent
to initiate the process for submission

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to the voters of Wish County the
question of imposing an emergency

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medical services property tax levy with
revenues deposited into the EMS trust

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fund as provided in Iowa code 422D.6.

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Section five, election requirements. The
board affirms that this resolution was

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considered at two meetings with proper
notice. B that any levy requires 60%

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voter approval and C that the resolution
shall be void if the tax fails, expires,

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or is discontinued pursuant to Iowa code
422D.1.

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Section six, effective date. The
resolution shall take effect immediately

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upon final adoption by recorded vote.
First reading a August 24th, 2026

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pass 50. Second reading August 31, 2026
pass 50

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hereby resolved by the board of
supervisors county on this September 8th

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2026.

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Okay.

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I move to approve resolution. We don't
have a number.

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» No, that'll be a signed when we get
>> I move to approve the resolution for

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emergency EMS for this county for a vote
next year.

442
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:52,720
» I'll second that. There motion and a
second to approve the resolution

443
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:58,040
declaring emergency medical services an
essential service. Is there any further

444
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,040
discussion?

445
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,520
Ark.
>> Hi, Shirley.

446
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,640
» I
>> Stephen.

447
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,760
» Hi.
>> I also passes unanimously.

448
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:37,920
That's your work on famous
you guys work on

449
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:44,200
the work begins in public that you're
giving the public.

450
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,200
» Yep. Thank you.

451
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:53,920
probably showing them the situation a
lot of other counties are in not having

452
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:59,920
services.
>> Yes, there's um lots of counties that

453
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:08,800
are looking at this other counties that
are just scooting by. Um for Wy County,

454
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:14,880
we have a good system and we look to
continue that service um as we have in

455
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:17,880
the past and and make it even better.
So,

456
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:25,280
» we'll be relying a lot on our local news
media to help us educate the public on

457
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:28,880
the need for this and for a positive
vote.

458
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:34,079
» I've been answering a lot of questions.
Yeah, there's and you don't have to go

459
00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:40,000
very far. Fad county's, you know, trying
to answer all those questions, too. U

460
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:48,160
and so we'll we'll have answers. We'll
have answers and hopefully we'll uh

461
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:54,520
educate people and get them out to vote.
>> Fed's voting this fall.

462
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,520
» F is going in November. Yes.

463
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:02,119
» Most people are acting positive toward
it. So that's a yes.

464
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:09,359
» Once you tell them that if you this does
not pass, you may not have an ambulance.

465
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:16,599
Well, they have to come.
>> No, no, they do not. I wish it says the

466
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,599
ambulance has to show up.

467
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:25,960
» I said I may agree with you that they
should have to, but that's not the way

468
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:25,960
the state works at correct.

469
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,640
Yeah,

470
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:16,640
Well, it's 10 o'clock. Next item on the
agenda, the public hearing for NOAC

471
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,520
electric reszoning.
Motion to open public hearing.

472
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:24,000
» Second.
>> A motion and a second to open public

473
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:27,680
hearing. All those in favor say I.
>> I.

474
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:30,960
» Public hearing is now. What do you have
for us, Tony?

475
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:35,359
» All right. Novach Electric is seeking to
reszone a piece of ground from A1

476
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:39,280
agricultural to C1 highway commercial to
move their business entities out there.

477
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:46,440
Planning zoning commission held a public
hearing on it a couple weeks back. Voted

478
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:46,440
to recommend denial on it.

479
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,960
» Were there public comments at the time
of that hearing?

480
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,440
» Um
there was comments by the applicant.

481
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:01,520
There was nobody who commented against
it. And there was one written comment

482
00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:05,240
submitted by an adjoining land owner
that they were in favor.

483
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,880
» All right.

484
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,599
» Russell, can I go first?
>> Sure.

485
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:19,599
» I'm the land owner. Gordon Hunter,
>> can you come up here so that those

486
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,200
online can hear you better?
>> Sure.

487
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,319
» The mic will pick it up.
>> The mic will pick it up better.

488
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:28,400
» It's up here in the ceiling.
>> It's in the ceiling.

489
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:31,920
» Yeah. Right up here, Gloria.
Times to change.

490
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:35,920
» You don't have to look at it. It'll it
is. And I have to apologize. My wife

491
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:39,839
shares a lot of things with me and she
shared her comb with me.

492
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:44,160
» Well, you just keep that part of me. I
was trying to stay.

493
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:50,160
» I'm going to address the planning and
zoning commission's objections to the

494
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:55,760
property being zoned C1 Highway
commercial. Uh

495
00:47:53,040 --> 00:48:02,800
I'm not sure how they come that
conclusion because this this piece of

496
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:07,839
property is on Highway 52 South. Um
about a mile south of the intersection

497
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:13,359
of 9 and 52.
And yet down at the intersection 9 and

498
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:18,400
52 is Windidge Implement, a car
dealership. And you go up and top the

499
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:23,680
hill and there's this property.
And if you go down the road a little bit

500
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:32,640
further, the DOT is down there. And
right beside the DOT is the county sold

501
00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:37,119
that property to March Loing and He
C1 Highway commercial. You get under a

502
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:42,640
little bit further
and it's JD Holland

503
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:52,839
and he's put up a shop down there and
it's on a piece of land twice as large

504
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:52,839
as what I'm trying to sell Mr. Noach.

505
00:48:54,400 --> 00:49:01,119
The other concern that they had was the
traffic on Highway 52.

506
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:06,559
Well,
I've lived in the Highway 53 years. I

507
00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:11,520
know there's traffic on that road. Uh
used to try to farm on that road because

508
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:18,880
they don't traffic doesn't always really
care for me. But Mr. Nvac's

509
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:24,960
business now is on Locust Road north of
town. And if you want to see traffic,

510
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:29,599
you go up there
to Locust Road at the rush hour in the

511
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:34,720
morning with the school kids and
everybody coming into town and the

512
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:40,319
traffic's back up the swimming pool.
He's trying to move the business out

513
00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:43,319
onto a highway that can handle the
track.

514
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:46,599
Uh

515
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:56,559
in the zoning ordinance C1 highway
commercial, the very first paragraph,

516
00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:05,359
the second sentence says, "Commercial
uses would generally require substantial

517
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:11,520
land area and access to a major traffic
artery.

518
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:18,319
That's Highway 52 right from the get-go.
They can handle that up that track.

519
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:23,839
And with the DOT right next to them,
if you get a half inch of snow, you get

520
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:28,880
a half inch of salt about an hour later
because there'll be six trucks go by and

521
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:36,800
they'll salt that road. They have a
clear road policy and they do that.

522
00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:42,640
Third issue was farmland.
farmland.

523
00:50:39,359 --> 00:50:47,720
I think they said that the average CSR
of farmland in Wy County is 58.5.

524
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:55,839
This is the area at 61
or thereabouts

525
00:50:53,119 --> 00:51:01,280
and that's because of the C and D slope
sign. It's not it's not very level

526
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:05,839
property. And but I'm not going to say
it's not good farmland because I farm it

527
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:11,200
forever and I've raised a good crop on
it every year. But if you want prime

528
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:16,559
farmland, you would have to go north of
this down in the valley down there where

529
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:22,640
I got some Huntsville with a 2% slope
that has a CSR of 90.

530
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:28,440
And so this is good farmland. It's not
pine farmland.

531
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,440
Uh,

532
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:37,760
one last thing I guess I saw in the
paper recently where the auditor had

533
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:42,079
said something about the state
the state uh not allowing you to raise

534
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:48,160
your property taxes only a certain
amount in the future.

535
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:55,680
And I thought I had said something about
having uh having uh new construction

536
00:51:53,119 --> 00:52:00,319
pick up the balance of some of that
which you're not going to be able allow

537
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:06,640
to do. And this is new construction
right from the get-go out in the county

538
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:14,000
in the rural area
between several other commercial

539
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:18,079
properties. And uh I would uh say that
it's a perfect spot for it.

540
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,240
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

541
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:30,559
» I have a site plan to show you for what
our project is proposing. Have some

542
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:35,760
notes to pass out. I'll give you a
little

543
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:39,720
this is a synopsis. So what
I like to talk about this morning.

544
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:50,000
» Thank you.
You

545
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:56,800
» want me to stand or sit?
>> Either one. Just kind of face.

546
00:52:53,920 --> 00:53:00,960
» Sit.
>> Good morning supervisors. My name is

547
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:08,079
Russell Novak. Own Perry Novak Electric
since acquiring from my father. Um, I'm

548
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:15,760
asking to reszone a chunk of land, uh,
A1 to C1, uh, 17 acres on Highway 52.

549
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:20,640
Um, I'd like to discuss,
um, the planning and zoning, uh,

550
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:25,680
advisory recommendation of denial. Um,
that recommendation was based on several

551
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:32,000
factual misunderstandings that I would
like to clear up with the board.

552
00:53:28,319 --> 00:53:36,160
First one regarding spot zoning. PNZ
stated that this parcel is one to two

553
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:42,480
miles from the nearest commercial
district for their meeting minutes. The

554
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:49,760
fact uh for our GPS and beacon we are
about 2/3 of a mile from the DOT office.

555
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:57,520
Um, we are extending an established
logical commercial corridor along a

556
00:53:52,960 --> 00:54:02,160
federal funded state mandated highway,
not dropping an isolated island in the

557
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:07,040
middle of a farmland.
Second was the regarding to highway

558
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:11,359
safety and traffic. The Iowa Department
of Transportation has fully reviewed my

559
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:15,760
application that they didn't have
completed at the time of PNC and has

560
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:21,599
officially approved our commercial
entrance permit. The state traffic

561
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:25,839
engineers verified that came to the site
um that our site lights and turning

562
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:30,319
approaches are completely safe. They
can't issue me a certificate until the

563
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:35,839
property is zoned commercial. So, they
can't issue a commercial application

564
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:40,559
based on it being zoned egg.
Um

565
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:46,079
uh furthermore and the big piece here is
the vast majority of our electrical work

566
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:50,319
is south of Decora. Um as as said
previously um the amount of traffic that

567
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:56,720
we put through Perryova or put through
Decor Iowa I project somewhere around

568
00:54:53,200 --> 00:55:03,839
100 cars a day between our uh between
our technicians, our employees and our

569
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:09,280
um deliveries. Most of our work is south
of town. The city has three corridors to

570
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:14,319
get into the city of Dora um to where we
need to get to. Our deliveries can all

571
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:19,920
happen south of town and where we need
to go. Um if we're going to Kelmer,

572
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:25,359
Wakan, Dora, any place we're we're much
more centrally located.

573
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:31,040
Um third regarding egg preservation and
that was one of the biggest pieces that

574
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:37,440
PNZ discussed. Um Wishik land averages
59 CSR to my understanding. This

575
00:55:33,839 --> 00:55:43,599
includes bluffs, rock outcropping,
timber and pastures. Um, true tillable

576
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:50,640
ground in our county I believe is closer
to 80. But what actually is being farmed

577
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:55,760
a rating of 61 reflects moderate rolling
ground. In fact, that current landowner

578
00:55:52,720 --> 00:56:01,599
Gordon um will confirm he had to
construct dedicated conservation

579
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:07,440
waterways BMS just to manage the runoff
from these property.

580
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:12,880
Um PNZ discussed the 17 acres when
initially the building is going to take

581
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:19,280
8 to nine acres. Um that that open
acreage is not being wasted. Um our goal

582
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:23,520
based on staying on budget is to install
a geothermal system to heat and cool our

583
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:29,599
facility similar to our building north
of town. And we basically open trenched

584
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:33,680
our geothermal. we uh covered it back up
and now we actually rent out the farm

585
00:56:31,359 --> 00:56:39,119
down north of town on Locust Grove. So
our goal for the um five to six acres

586
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:43,839
which I would call to the to the left
side driving into this property, we'll

587
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:48,000
be doing all of our geothermal work. So
we we'll uncover that. We'll install our

588
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:53,280
geothermal loops. We'll lessen our
carbon footprint. Um, and then when we

589
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:56,400
cover cover our geothermal back up,
there's a good chance that Bordon's

590
00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:02,160
going to be farming that ground again on
the on the left side of the property.

591
00:56:59,359 --> 00:57:07,119
Um, we will also be constructing a
retention pond to control our storm

592
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:11,200
water. So, we'll be control we'll
putting a what they call a wet storm

593
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:15,520
water pond um in the front of the
property. And a wet storm water pond is

594
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:19,200
it's going to hold water and we'll
actually have a fountain and make it

595
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:26,520
look nice. And that'll be built to um
absorb our storm storm water um and

596
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:26,520
release at a slow pace to

597
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:34,799
and one of the biggest pieces basically
to talk about is the uh impact of our

598
00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:39,200
project to win county.
Um the real dollars for Winnick County.

599
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:45,119
Right now this parcel is bringing in
roughly $1,000 a year of property taxes.

600
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:48,559
By the time we um outfit our facility,
we're going to spend in the neighborhood

601
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:54,799
of $6 million in private capital
funding.

602
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:58,880
Um even with the initial revitalization
abatement that we are asking for, this

603
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:05,200
will transition into paying
approximately $70,000

604
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:10,799
a year in commercial property taxes. a
70fold

605
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:17,680
increase supporting our county services,
emergency response, and local schools.

606
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:23,680
We will generate substantial local sales
tax right here on this $6 million

607
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:28,240
project. So, of the 6 million, 4 million
will be material. Of that 4 million,

608
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:32,799
we'll be spending 7% in sales tax
wherever we build the building,

609
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:39,200
hopefully in Luna County.
Uh, our goal is also to add roughly 5 to

610
00:58:35,359 --> 00:58:45,920
10 new skilled traded positions in the
range of 50 to $100,000 per year,

611
00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:51,680
keeping hardworking families living and
spending money in Winnick County.

612
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:56,720
Most important, we believe in being a
good neighbor and investing where we

613
00:58:53,359 --> 00:59:03,760
live. Over the last two years, my father
and I have donated $85,000

614
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:08,400
to our local hospital alongside regular
support for numerous community

615
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:13,599
fundraisers, youth initiatives,
including our bowling alley, and local

616
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:18,880
organizations across this area. We just
don't do business here, we live here. We

617
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:22,960
give back. We care about the long-term
health of county.

618
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:28,160
Finally, regarding the people who
actually live next door, county zoning

619
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:33,760
mailed notices to all six adjoining land
owners. Not a single neighbor filed an

620
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:39,680
objection. Sharon Vocodol, which is
directly touching this property, written

621
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:44,400
approval to PNC and another adjacent
owner verbally confirmed their support.

622
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:48,960
The people who share fences with this
property know how we run our operation

623
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:53,920
and we want to see this project move
forward.

624
00:59:50,640 --> 01:00:00,559
We are a proven local business ready to
invest private capital, clean up

625
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:07,440
downtown traffic, build high wage trade
career right here in the county. And I

626
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:12,680
respectfully ask the board to approve C1
zoning. Thank you. And I'm glad to

627
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,680
answer any questions.

628
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,200
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

629
01:00:20,319 --> 01:00:26,160
Anyone else with any questions or
comments?

630
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:31,200
» Yes. Uh Tate Kurtz, uh the core township
president and local businessman here in

631
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:36,160
town. Um I'm here to give you my my
support for the resoning. I hope the

632
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:40,559
board of supervisors uses common sense
and trying to help this project move

633
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:44,640
forward. Whereas a lot of other projects
that PNZ has shot down in the past. As

634
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:48,400
you all know, as a community, if you are
not growing, you are dying. And

635
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:52,960
unfortunately in this county there have
been a lot of projects that have not

636
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:57,680
received support and a lot of business
has gone elsewhere and we are seeing the

637
01:00:56,079 --> 01:01:03,599
effects of that with declining
populations, enrollments in schools,

638
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:08,720
funding and etc. So it'd be wise of you
guys to approve this project and many

639
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:11,760
more that may become ahead of you guys.
Thank you.

640
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:24,960
Indian business owner done business with
Perry Novak and Rust for 25 years and

641
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:29,119
bought over 80 vehicles from us over the
years and known them personally. Um

642
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:34,079
they're good operators. They do
excellent work. They are want to stay in

643
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:38,559
the community. Um, I know they've been
offered different incentives from other

644
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:43,359
counties and for a planning and zoning
board to tell them that they should

645
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:47,920
possibly look at another county is just
upsetting.

646
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:54,040
So, I'm in favor of it. Support it.
Hopefully, you guys are too.

647
01:01:50,799 --> 01:01:54,040
» Thank you.

648
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:04,160
» Any comments? Anyone online with any
comments?

649
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:16,559
You have questions? Anyone have any
questions for anybody?

650
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:22,319
» Um, if they do the geothermal and then
row crop over that potentially in the

651
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:24,799
long run, does that stay a then that
piece?

652
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:28,720
» No, C1.
>> No. So, it would be if you resolve the

653
01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:32,640
property to C1, it stays C1.
>> Oh, 17.

654
01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:39,599
» Yeah. Would there be options to put that
in a the set aside program?

655
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:42,319
» Uh that would not be
the answer to that.

656
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:49,680
» I don't know.
>> All the things that are zoned underneath

657
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:53,440
of C1 are applicable to the C1 lot. So,
so that's

658
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:56,599
» so I'll use this listed on that city
when you

659
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:06,400
» one clarification Russell the there is
some height there where the driveway

660
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:11,359
goes between those two smaller
>> our goal is to knock that to flat but

661
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:19,440
basically I have not done a locate to
see what utilities are on the

662
01:03:15,359 --> 01:03:24,000
on the rightway. So you're anticipating
then that by lowering those two hills

663
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,839
there'll be still a line of sight for
recognizing

664
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:30,079
» that's the goal and
>> so people will understand better what's

665
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:34,720
there there'll be deceleration time
>> and we worked with Sharon basically of

666
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:38,960
either at some point acquiring the three
acres to square this off or she's

667
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:44,640
already said that I can clean up the
tree line to look nicer to see our

668
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:49,839
property but if I could shave five feet
off the top of those nles

669
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:53,760
um it'd be a win for everybody. But in
the same token, if there's a fiber optic

670
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:59,160
that's 4 feet in the ground, those are
challenges that we'll have to overcome.

671
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,160
» Yeah.

672
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:06,720
» Think and talked about the hearing the
putting in a a detention basin.

673
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:12,160
» Yep.
But I think hadn't done a total study on

674
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:16,640
the amount of volume you're going to
have to have to accommodate all of the

675
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:21,359
runoff from gravel and
>> buildings and stuff like that.

676
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:24,960
» So potentially a second detention base
on the back side of that to accommodate

677
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:29,280
what's wants to go down
>> if required.

678
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:32,640
I just I mean my concern in that
perspective would be if you're dumping a

679
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,280
lot of water off the backside that you
can't catch up front that probably needs

680
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,119
to
>> you know and the big thing is the solid

681
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:43,520
or the hard surfaces the lines and the
gravel compared to

682
01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:49,440
» permable ground that's there now. So, um
I did take into effect that uh um we

683
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:53,839
probably are on the smaller side. Um
plenty of room there to either um use

684
01:04:52,319 --> 01:05:00,240
the correct angles to make that pond
larger or generate a second pond.

685
01:04:57,839 --> 01:05:04,079
» So, you're requesting to reszone 17
acres but only using eight or nine.

686
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:08,000
Correct?
>> Well, basically my interpretation is

687
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:13,680
everything for the property needed to be
zoned. So the everything we're doing

688
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:17,520
including the geothermal which is for
our building my interpretation was that

689
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:22,400
land needed to be zoned with the
building

690
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:25,920
and truly that could be you know if our
business were to grow in time that that

691
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:31,280
build that building's designed to be
added on on that side. So they call it

692
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:35,839
they call it a blade
breakaway panel on the that side of the

693
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:39,119
building.
Is that also your interpretation as some

694
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:42,640
administrator?
>> The land is going to be used for

695
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:46,319
commercial has to be z commercial.
>> All

696
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:50,960
the land being used for commercial has
to be z

697
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:55,839
part part of the issue with why it is
what it is. It's because of the contour

698
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:59,520
and not being able to get in and plant
efficiently if there was odd pieces left

699
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:04,160
out of
>> Yeah, that's part of it. Yes. Y and like

700
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:08,640
I said, we need a better chunk of that
land on that side. We need a basically

701
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:13,599
roughly a 100 ton of geothermal. We'll
have a 100 loops, but we're also from

702
01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:18,799
the carbon footprint wise if we use
geothermal. I mean, that's in my opinion

703
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:24,640
huge environmental impact savings that
we're not running boilers and gas, you

704
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:29,680
know, heating electricity for cooling
that uh will use, you know, as much

705
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:34,079
geothermal as some backup gas.
>> Speaking of environmental, it's also

706
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:38,000
light considerations.
smart

707
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:40,960
just to have wall packs on a building.
>> So, our intent is not to have any light

708
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:44,079
poles.
>> Basically, we'll have perimeter lighting

709
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:46,480
around the building.
>> Um,

710
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,880
» where does that project?
>> Just the parking lot

711
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,319
» down.
>> Yes.

712
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,799
» Straight down.
>> Straight down.

713
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:57,520
» Yep. Our biggest thing is when we get to
middle of winter, um, our guys are going

714
01:06:55,520 --> 01:07:02,559
to start between 6:00 and 7 in the
morning and it's still pitch dark

715
01:06:59,359 --> 01:07:06,559
outside. So, we need to um have lighting
at least near the building.

716
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:11,200
» You need that just for safety. I mean,
>> yeah, but the big thing is the intention

717
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,599
is not to have any poles. Um it'll just
be perimeter lighting around the

718
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:17,520
building
>> and really the side that's,

719
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:21,680
» you know, the front of the building I
call it. That's not the showroom. You we

720
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:26,000
won't put any lighting.
Um there's, you know, past projects that

721
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:30,880
said the same and now they're real
bright and and pretty intrusive lighting

722
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:34,880
for our valley.
>> That's not my intent.

723
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:37,440
» So I think a good example of good
lighting is the Locust Road project we

724
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,720
did where
>> we're straight down

725
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:45,359
» straight down and all those fixtures cut
off. So they're 100% cut off. So it's

726
01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:48,720
not if you look at what I call a
traditional wall pack on the building,

727
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:53,280
it shoots light out. Do you see a
reflector on the front? The lights will

728
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,599
shoot light all down.
So,

729
01:07:53,520 --> 01:08:00,079
» Russell, on the geothermal loops, will
that occupy maybe a portion of that 8

730
01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:01,520
acres that still will be farmed?
>> Yes. Yep.

731
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:06,559
» And
>> and we'll push it basically up as close

732
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:10,559
to the property line as possible. You
know, if we ever need to add onto our

733
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:13,200
building, we can't have the geothermal
under our building.

734
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:17,359
» So, in other words, you can't have you
can't build over the top of your

735
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:21,120
geothermal lines. And uh would that even
allow for gravel parking above it or

736
01:08:19,679 --> 01:08:24,319
would that be a compaction problem for
the geoc?

737
01:08:21,759 --> 01:08:28,799
» No, it would not be ideal. Um the big
thing is the compaction and uh if the

738
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:34,560
ground's hard, it's going to transfer
more heat. So that frost would actually

739
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:38,480
penetrate down quicker on compacted
ground than it would not. So in this

740
01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:43,679
case really that land is going to be
preserved and will be needed as an

741
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:49,199
agricultural resource per se to preserve
the integrity of your geothermal.

742
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:53,759
» Yep. But it's all in use for this
building. So that's my interpretation

743
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:58,080
that anything used for this building has
to be considered

744
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:01,600
the C1C
because the loops basically just round

745
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:07,520
numbers and I don't have it 100%
designed. The loops are 100 ft long. I

746
01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:12,159
take a three-foot trench. They're 10
feet apart and I need a hundred of

747
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:16,640
those.
So, it's gonna be a lot of work running

748
01:09:14,719 --> 01:09:21,440
basically and then we'll farm over the
top of it. But those loops will be the

749
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:25,600
integral part to our building and really
a large I mean we're it's substantially

750
01:09:23,759 --> 01:09:30,560
more expensive than just putting gas in
and putting a big LP tank in. But it's

751
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:36,319
worked out well north of town that
basically we have we have a 30,000 foot

752
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:42,000
warehouse north of town that we burn
we're geothermal and we burn probably

753
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:47,759
700 gallons of fuel instead of 15,000
gallons of fuel. So the geothermal has

754
01:09:44,799 --> 01:09:52,480
worked well in other applications.
>> The other thing you talked about would

755
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:55,679
be green screening like trees and
vegetation

756
01:09:53,920 --> 01:10:00,159
» the whole front isn't exposed so to
speak. you know, been. So, we're going

757
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:04,719
to want some low grip vegetation. We can
we can plant taller stuff on the

758
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:08,640
sidelines for
I'm definitely willing to listen to what

759
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:12,080
recommendations are, but we want people
to see our building from the you don't

760
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,880
want to block the view of your building
so you can't see

761
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:20,719
trees.
>> No, but both property lines on the

762
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:26,800
sides, no problem. Or no problem.
>> Screening of the storage unit section.

763
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:31,440
Um, I mean that's part of marketing is
to be able to see that from the road.

764
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:35,840
» So we're coming up on a bluff entering
Dora and people will see a big storage

765
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:39,360
facility on the right
>> and our commercial building. I I guess I

766
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:42,560
don't
you know they come from the north and

767
01:10:40,719 --> 01:10:46,080
they see a wind tower sitting on top of
the hill. It don't work anymore. So

768
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:49,600
what's the argument? I mean
>> I mean I don't disagree. I mean we're

769
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,480
Yeah. So the cheapest storage building I
could buy

770
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:56,159
» Yeah.
>> is a galvanized building. So you see a

771
01:10:53,199 --> 01:11:00,400
ugly galvanized roof. I don't do that.
So if you see the building I just built

772
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:10,000
in Kelmer, we use a colored roof. We use
colored walls. We use two-tone corners

773
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:15,280
to make it as appealing as I can. Um,
I guess I'm not saying I can't put a row

774
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:20,000
of trees to block the view, but that's
also hurting the

775
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:24,239
» my marketing side of people that see the
building that says, "Hey, I need space

776
01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:28,400
to rent." I'm willing to, you know,
work. I'm just asking. I'm just trying

777
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:32,880
to come up with the best.
>> We've worked with two other business may

778
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:36,800
or I did, and drive by their play. I
mean, you guys aren't any different.

779
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:41,679
You're gonna make it look as nice coming
from the west by Volmer or south by

780
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:46,159
Holland. I mean, it's a nice looking
place and it's you're just

781
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:48,400
» equivalent to what they I mean it's a
challenge for each line of business. I

782
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:52,080
mean,
>> what Holland did looks amazing.

783
01:11:50,719 --> 01:11:53,440
» If I look in the back, I see a huge
rock.

784
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:58,000
» Yeah.
>> If I drive by Bulmer's, great assets to

785
01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:02,560
our community. I see rows and rows of
equipment and stuff sitting outside. If

786
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:08,159
you drive by our facility, we have a
building and 90% of opposition and the

787
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:11,199
other 10% is behind the building you
can't see.

788
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:15,120
But
>> we really try, you know, when dad did

789
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:20,159
his building north of town, all the
garage doors are on the back side. You

790
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:25,840
don't really see um many garage doors on
that side and planted trees.

791
01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:31,040
I'm open to
um doing the best I can.

792
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:34,400
» Yeah. And that storage facility is all
fenced in and gated.

793
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:40,480
» Yeah. Yep. So, traditionally, I would
say I'm not aware of many that are

794
01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:45,600
fenced and gated in Winnipe County. Um,
so that's definitely

795
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:49,920
um a value. I mean, there's a lot of
storage available around the area.

796
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:55,040
That's the traditional
facility, but we're adding the RV

797
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:57,600
storage, which predominantly you're
going to take vehicles and sit down in

798
01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:02,800
front of people's houses and putting
them in a facility where,

799
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:07,679
» like I said, what I built in Kelmer, I
think turned out really nice. And uh we

800
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:11,760
just got done with one in Charles City,
you know, where basically they can park

801
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:16,000
their campers inside with power
um and lighting, which uh there isn't a

802
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:21,199
lot of those type of facilities out
there currently. But the trend in the

803
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:26,880
storage industry is for the appearance
being a major positive for the facility.

804
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:31,600
You've you could look at a lot of these
places that have especially conditioned

805
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:37,280
storage. They're not the low-end uh like
you say the galvanized roof. Uh we want

806
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:41,600
to make it look nice and that's where um
even in this facility I could probably

807
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:46,960
save4
$50,000 to put a galvanized roof on and

808
01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:50,480
it's not eye appealing whatsoever. And
I'm not doing that. I've never done that

809
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:54,960
at any of the facilities ever. So, I I
do want to make it look nice. And if we

810
01:13:53,199 --> 01:14:01,520
look at, you know, I've built this type
of um uh RV style storage in Charles

811
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:06,080
City a year ago and we're just finishing
one in Kelmer. We're trying to blend it

812
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:10,480
in as much as we possibly can and we're
also taking care of the storm water to

813
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:16,560
the best of our ability.
So, you know, my concern on previous

814
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:21,600
projects and this one is
coming into Decora is it's a beautiful

815
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:28,239
county. It's a beautiful entrance into
our valley and I'm my hesitancy is

816
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:33,120
preserving that vista,
but I'm also in favor of economic

817
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:36,719
growth. And I'm looking back at previous
decisions by the planning and zoning

818
01:14:34,719 --> 01:14:40,080
commission, and I wish they were here
today so I could ask them questions.

819
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:44,320
They're not here today, but I I might be
able to direct it to Tony. I know you

820
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:48,560
can't speak for them, but they approved
the Voltmer Electric facility

821
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:54,880
unanimously and they approved the
Holland facility 4 to3. Um, similar

822
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:58,880
situations. So, I'm really having some
trouble with consistency here. Do you

823
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:03,520
want to speak to it at all?
>> I'm afraid I can.

824
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:10,159
I went back and looked at the meeting
minutes and don't I think Wolver went

825
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:15,120
through twice basically I think he got
comments from PNC and then kind of

826
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:19,600
corrected that and went back don't over
that but I reached out after the PNC

827
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:23,199
meeting I felt
it was a rough meeting like there were

828
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:28,159
they knew how they were going to vote
before they started before I even talked

829
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:32,719
to be honest with you and uh I talked to
I tried talking to DJ Priest after the

830
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:37,600
meeting the next day um he said I can't
legally talk to you they gave me no

831
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:43,040
comments at the meeting to say hey if
you can tweak this or do this it was

832
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:46,960
just basically no 60 done
>> and if you see hesitation in me

833
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:50,719
» no I want to answer your question
>> finish what I was going to say in in a

834
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:54,320
previous project you know we're going to
plant trees and we're going to do this

835
01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:59,040
we're going to do that
wasn't done so I don't know where the

836
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:02,480
followup on that is or what we do as a
community to make sure that people

837
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,760
follow through on what they say they're
going to do. So, I'm holding I'm going

838
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,920
to, you know, you've said all this in a
public hearing. It'll be part of the

839
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,960
notes.
>> Um,

840
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:13,600
» the consistency is a hard one for me on
this one.

841
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:18,000
» I can show you that dad's project on
locust 10 years ago, there were notes

842
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:20,560
brought up in this meeting and you can
go out to that property and see that

843
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:25,520
they were all done.
>> Trees are planted. Whatever was asked in

844
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:30,320
that meeting was done.
So, I I can commit to what we talk

845
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:35,600
about. And honestly, you guys want to
come out, more power to you to come out.

846
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:40,880
We're making this project for the next
generation. For my son that's with us to

847
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:47,040
the 100 employees that work under our
brand. This isn't a oneanddone project

848
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:53,679
for us. We we got into storage
facilities a few years ago um of using

849
01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:58,719
extra space and it's it's put two people
to busy all summer mowing. It's put a

850
01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:02,719
handyman together fixing stuff. It's
put, you know, we got two gals in the

851
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:07,600
office that got full-time jobs because
of what we're building. So,

852
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:13,199
trying to come up with this happy medium
that we can build something that looks

853
01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:16,239
appropriate to the facility um and uh
put people to work

854
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:20,320
» and it's a conversation for the wider
community that we can't have here

855
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:24,159
unfortunately. Lind do we want Highway
52 to become storage facilities as we

856
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:28,640
lead into town? There's another storage
facility representative who spoke in

857
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:31,920
favor of you today. What does this open
it up for future? What do we want to

858
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:36,880
look like as a community in the future?
And that's where my concern for

859
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:42,239
lighting, um, trees, retention ponds,
the protection of the environment, the

860
01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:46,320
vistas, the all of that. So, and then
when I go back and look at the PNZ notes

861
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:51,600
for approval for both Boltmer and
Holland facilities, Highway 9 and

862
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:56,000
Highway 52, respectively. Um, I'm having
some trouble with that inconsistency on

863
01:17:53,840 --> 01:18:00,719
this one. I'm not fully understanding
why, and I wish they were here to answer

864
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:03,360
that question, but they're not
>> and I can't talk to them before this

865
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:07,199
meeting. That would be exparte
communication, just as I couldn't talk

866
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:10,480
to any of you before this meeting. So,
I'm asking the questions here in the

867
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,840
public hearing.
>> And I don't know, I don't see any

868
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:18,480
retention ponds, but I haven't
physically drove on private property to

869
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:22,159
see them, but one of our features on the
front of our building is to make a

870
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:26,960
pretty high appealing retention pond
with some really nice river rock. Um,

871
01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:30,080
and they call it a a wet pond where
basically we'll keep about four feet of

872
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:35,199
water in the bottom of the pond. We want
to put a fountain in there that looks

873
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:38,640
really nice. So, you know, I'm sure
you've seen the bowling alley we've done

874
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:42,400
in several projects. I want this to look
as nice as it possibly can. Our

875
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:46,640
fireplace showroom, I think, turned out
awesome with the fireplaces on display.

876
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:50,000
So, we're working with a local
contractor to have a nice overhang on

877
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:54,480
the front of the commercial building.
We'll have fireplaces and our furniture,

878
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:59,520
Amish furniture that we sell outside um
with pavers and uh um you know, we want

879
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:03,440
consumers to feel welcome to come to our
facility. We don't want it to look like

880
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:07,480
an industrial facility that nobody wants
to walk out the front door either.

881
01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:15,440
» I think that the Novaks have have
demonstrated over over the years quality

882
01:19:12,719 --> 01:19:20,239
of the projects that they build
would fit what I'm hearing Russell say

883
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:25,280
today. Uh,
no, no offense, Matt, but I would

884
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:32,400
challenge between the current storage
units and the uh the Novak storage units

885
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:36,000
a competition that would be which one is
going to have a better looking building

886
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:40,159
as you go towards the future because I
don't know if Mr. Kurt will stop

887
01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:44,480
building storage either, but I'd like to
see a little competition between the two

888
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:51,679
of them. Uh, the last thing that I want
to see is I'd like to see us revisit as

889
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:56,239
a board our general plan because I think
the overall focus with so much that is

890
01:19:54,480 --> 01:20:02,719
just
cut and dry the appearance of it's corn,

891
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:07,040
you can't get rid of it. I don't want to
comprehensive plan.

892
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:11,199
» Yeah, the comprehensive plan. I think
that the last thing this county needs is

893
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:15,040
to hang a shingle out there that says
close for business.

894
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:20,880
» I I also want to reiterate the fact that
when you do a redo of the con when you

895
01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:25,040
review the comprehensive plan that took
that was years in the making and it

896
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:29,520
includes a lot of community input. So if
we look into that just for the

897
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:34,080
conversation that also has to be a huge
community input again not to be

898
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:40,239
discussed today and decided today but
it's a huge community input piece back

899
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:44,880
Tony I have a question for you spot
zoning just so you can kind of educate

900
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:50,320
the room and the public
BNC that was one of their reasons for

901
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:56,400
denial was spot zoning but we do have
the DOT garage the Mirage Shack uh now

902
01:20:54,080 --> 01:21:02,960
business on the same area and the JB
Holland on the same highway.

903
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:09,040
Tell me why this would be spot zoning.
>> So the definition of spot zoning is

904
01:21:05,679 --> 01:21:14,880
excuse me an island of land that is
zoned differently from the surrounding

905
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:19,360
area but it is an incompatible use.
Okay. So to be spot zoning it has to be

906
01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:22,800
different from the surrounding area. It
has to be incompatible with the

907
01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:27,679
surrounding area. What's what's the
definition of surrounding area? Adjacent

908
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:30,400
or within a few miles? What's what's the
definition here?

909
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:35,920
» That's for judges to decide, right?
>> It's pretty big.

910
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:42,800
» So, it's, you know, at this level, it's
for you to decide. Okay. So, to be spot

911
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:48,480
zoning, it has to be a different zoning,
which it is, right? It has to be

912
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:52,719
incompatible with the surrounding uses.
That's a decision for you to make with

913
01:21:50,719 --> 01:21:58,080
that competitive with certain needs.
>> So I would suppose then that Hollands

914
01:21:54,800 --> 01:22:02,080
was spot zoning. Uh
would be spot zoning kind of I guess. I

915
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:07,760
don't think it's through the do roller
would have been spot zoning. The NFL

916
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:14,400
buying station would spot zoning.
>> All those could have an argument made

917
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:19,120
that they were spot zoning. But um the
second one uh you kind of threw a couple

918
01:22:17,440 --> 01:22:20,159
examples in there that don't really work
so well.

919
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:26,639
» Right.
>> So right across the road from Bmer's was

920
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:32,159
uh an industrial zone property. So is
the second one

921
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:34,719
spot zoned? No,
>> possibly not.

922
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:39,520
» What property across from Bolton
supposed? Uh actually it was Russell

923
01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:46,159
Novak had a property across there that
was owned that was owned uh I believe in

924
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:50,880
one can't really remember like four
years ago probably about four or five

925
01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:55,840
four
>> so yes uh you know to answer your

926
01:22:52,639 --> 01:23:01,199
question arguments can be made
it's up to you to uh decide which side

927
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:07,400
of it you take
>> is wind in the city or is that in the

928
01:23:03,679 --> 01:23:07,400
county guest county.

929
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:14,960
» Did you recommend to the NO box that you
thought this would fit into C1 as the

930
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:22,080
best?
>> Uh did I recommend to them? I don't they

931
01:23:18,719 --> 01:23:26,320
came to me with their proposal and I
look at the book and says, "Yep, C1 is

932
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:31,280
the one that fits." Well, just me
looking at it, you know, like was

933
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:35,440
mentioned prior with that top paragraph
where, you know, it basically says C1

934
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:39,440
Highway commercial district is intended
to accommodate uses which ordinarily

935
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:44,719
serve the traveling public and
commercial uses

936
01:23:41,679 --> 01:23:52,560
which generally require substantial land
area and access to a major traffic

937
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:56,440
artery. So it's encouraging in a long
one of our major core

938
01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:04,800
» which that goes back to our
comprehensive plan also for our

939
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:08,719
comprehensive plan list that we want
development along our major corridors

940
01:24:06,719 --> 01:24:14,840
and I believe they actually spell out
952 and

941
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:14,840
» 24 yeah

942
01:24:16,719 --> 01:24:22,400
» so then here we
They said you can't do that then. Well,

943
01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:27,600
it's in our comp that you're that's
where they recommend doing it. So, it's

944
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:31,280
they're none there.
>> Well, do we have any more questions?

945
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:34,719
» No. For anybody else?
>> Mark, what were you trying to say? Just

946
01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:37,199
do you want to finish what you're
saying?

947
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:42,719
» Well, they're saying they the
comprehensive plan says to build on 952

948
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:48,159
or 24 and there they're saying they
can't because it's unsafe. Well, DOT's

949
01:24:46,480 --> 01:24:54,159
the city does their study and said it's
safe. And my thing is I agree with like

950
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:58,480
Gordon said, they they got how many less
trucks coming through town. You want to

951
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:05,600
talk about safety, kids going to school,
just upkeep in the streets, uh just it's

952
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:11,840
just it's just a no-brainer. Takes all
that traffic out of town for safet. It's

953
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:16,000
a big safety plus for the town. You know
>> what will happen to your facility on

954
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:20,159
Locust? Uh we have somebody actually two
different people interested on our

955
01:25:17,679 --> 01:25:26,159
warehouse north of town and I got a
phone call last week of someone that's

956
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:30,000
interested in our fireplace showroom. Uh
dad has a lifetime lease at our main

957
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:35,040
office. So we'll probably meet that at
this point so he has a place to live

958
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:37,920
and to a point to bring up there their
business is coming in if they're in

959
01:25:36,639 --> 01:25:42,080
sales or something. There's still going
to be sales tax the property tax is

960
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:47,120
still going to have to be paid on them
buildings. I mean, we're it's a it's

961
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:50,719
just a win-winwin. Everything you look
at is a win. There ain't no We ain't

962
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,840
losing property tax. You ain't tearing
them buildings down. Ain't going on at

963
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:55,840
it. Somebody's going to be in them and
using them.

964
01:25:54,800 --> 01:26:01,280
» One one big thing, you know, when you
ask about, you know, Pleasant, making

965
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:06,480
stuff look nice. We we built this
beautiful bowling alley renovation here

966
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:10,480
five years ago now. And I didn't have to
make the outside look any different. You

967
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:14,400
know, if you look at the facade at the
front of the bowling alley, we spent an

968
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:20,800
extra quarter million dollars to make
that a little sexy and uh we didn't have

969
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:26,159
to do that. So, you know, I hope you can
take my word that what we decide or talk

970
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:30,480
about and want to see um we will follow
through just like dad did 10 years ago

971
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:35,280
and I've done on projects that we've
done. Um if there's ever a

972
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:38,960
misunderstanding, you got my number.
>> Is that the project north up there on

973
01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:43,280
Locust Road? That was a little rocky
there for a little bit, but got things

974
01:26:41,679 --> 01:26:46,800
taken care of and
>> and we planted the trees that were

975
01:26:44,639 --> 01:26:50,800
asking us. We, you know, done whatever
we were asked for through that process

976
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:56,840
of under the bridge today.
>> It is.

977
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:56,840
» So, what are we asking for today

978
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:05,840
as far as what does the site look like?
because in past conversations there's

979
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:10,320
not been follow through on what we'd
kind of like to see versus what was

980
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:14,000
actually constructed.
>> I don't know how to answer.

981
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:16,960
» I'm not asking you asking my mic's up
here.

982
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:20,080
» So I I will chime in on that one and I
would like to come back to conference

983
01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:25,520
and plan also if somebody reminds me a
bit. Um so when an applicant submits a

984
01:27:23,679 --> 01:27:30,480
site plan that is exactly what it is.
It's a plan that is a non-binding

985
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:35,280
document. All right. Now if there are
certain things I code allows a

986
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:41,280
conditional reasoning. All right. On a
conditional reasoning

987
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:48,000
the supervisors can put on uh
requirements that will specifically

988
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:53,120
alleviate a problem. Right now how do
those get done? I am in charge of

989
01:27:50,639 --> 01:27:58,080
keeping sure those go well. If they
don't go well we file things with the

990
01:27:55,679 --> 01:28:01,280
district court. Whatever we have to do.
We've just seen where that comes back to

991
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:08,400
the board of supervisors and they change
it. All right. So to answer your

992
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:12,800
question is site plan is non-binding. If
you want binding things, it has to be

993
01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:15,360
done as a conditional zoning.
>> All right.

994
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:19,600
» In this meeting or pre or
>> in this meeting conditional zoning has

995
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:23,679
to be agreed to by the applicant in
writing before the adjourment of the

996
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:28,800
public hearing. So one of those
conditional uses would be the

997
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:34,960
requirement of that retention pond.
>> That could be if you can say that a

998
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:39,880
retention pond is required to alleviate
a problem that that construction is

999
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,880
causing

1000
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:46,560
um while we're thinking about that the
comprehensive plan. So the comprehensive

1001
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:52,159
plan says this is kind of in reply to
what you were saying Mark the

1002
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:58,719
comprehensive plan has a lot of goals.
Okay. So, some of the goals are we want

1003
01:28:55,040 --> 01:29:03,360
development along major highways, right?
Some of the goals are we want to

1004
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:11,199
preserve farmland. It is the board of
supervisors responsibility to prioritize

1005
01:29:06,480 --> 01:29:18,239
those goals for an individual request
or individual location request. Right?

1006
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:23,280
So, it is I I didn't like the way it
sounded where one is all going with this

1007
01:29:20,639 --> 01:29:28,400
and one is all going with that. These
are both goals we have, but it is the

1008
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:36,360
board of supervisors responsibility to
prioritize which goals are more

1009
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:36,360
important for a specific development.

1010
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:46,000
One more comment that I would like to
make is if they would leave the county,

1011
01:29:43,679 --> 01:29:50,159
what you guys are going to lose
>> and do you understand that and the

1012
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:52,880
comprehensive pack package of that whole
thing? Because you're not just going to

1013
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:55,360
lose the business, you're going to lose
taxes, you're going to lose employees,

1014
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:58,760
you're going to lose families, and
they're going to move.

1015
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:06,400
Tony, don't isn't it a responsibility of
a landowner to contain property water

1016
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:11,920
from running onto their neighbors unless
it's a established drainage

1017
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:20,000
requirement,
>> but I do believe uh with the I'm going

1018
01:30:15,679 --> 01:30:24,719
to say NRCS there is uh there's
requirements on that. I'm I'm not

1019
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:28,239
positive. Yeah, but that falls with that
entity

1020
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:33,480
» parameter up there. You that's
>> that's not we don't regulate that.

1021
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:39,440
» And I don't I personally don't think
that a row of trees along 52 is an

1022
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:43,600
advantage. In fact, I think that's a
real detraction to the business. And if

1023
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:49,040
they're putting up track record would
show that they put up a a good looking

1024
01:30:46,639 --> 01:30:53,040
building in general. He's really going
to push Tate Kurt to the limits. I

1025
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:56,040
think. Not going to see. Hope I can get
a

1026
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:04,960
» Well, right now you you were looking at
a fence, a chain link fence along your

1027
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,719
storage units.
>> Yes. Yep. So, this will be one of the

1028
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:13,679
only one I'm aware of in Russia County
that's actually

1029
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:16,719
been coded to get in. That sound
appropriate to

1030
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:21,199
» Yes.
>> coded like a black viol.

1031
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:25,440
» I That's the same. I mean, as we talk
about things, my cheapest route,

1032
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:28,480
galvanized fence that looks like a jail.
That's not what we do. You can see

1033
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:32,880
around every solar project we've done,
it's a PVC coated bench. The cost is

1034
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:38,480
double, but it looks very attractive to
the customer going by. I mean, we want

1035
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:42,719
both. We want the consumer to come in
that feels comfortable coming to our

1036
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:50,159
facility. Um, but there's a substantial
cost. I mean, when I put this fence in,

1037
01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:54,000
uh, PVC coated, you know, gated access,
my cost is going to be higher than TA's

1038
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:57,920
facility that doesn't have it. So,
you're going to have different customer

1039
01:31:55,120 --> 01:32:03,120
clientele when we put a security system
in and have cameras at our site compared

1040
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:07,760
to a facility that doesn't have cameras.
We're at two different price points uh

1041
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:11,280
of pleasing two different customers. You
know, if you come to our facility, it's

1042
01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:15,040
gated, fenced, cameras, security
lighting. um

1043
01:32:12,639 --> 01:32:18,639
» free coffee
>> probably not coffee but uh but if you

1044
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:22,239
come up to our shop there probably would
be but

1045
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:25,840
you could see a 15 or 20% price
difference between the customer that

1046
01:32:23,679 --> 01:32:31,040
comes and rents and that consumer needs
to decide you know can I afford and what

1047
01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:35,120
am I looking for so we're going to
provide two different there's there's

1048
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:38,800
services for everybody there's
>> and you did that you did your homework

1049
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:41,040
on that you know what's out there have
them otherwise

1050
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:45,600
» and that's the same thing we have
facilities in the same town offer

1051
01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:51,120
different amenities. The new facility we
just did in Charles City that has

1052
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:54,960
cameras, lighting, um we charge a
different price point than one that

1053
01:32:52,800 --> 01:33:01,360
doesn't have those amenities. This would
be our first facility with a fence uh

1054
01:32:57,440 --> 01:33:05,760
gated access. And how the site plan
typically most properties don't have

1055
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:12,719
enough real estate to drive off the
public road to get to a um a gate to

1056
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:18,880
type a combination in with a a a 40ft
campus. We're able to pair that driveway

1057
01:33:16,159 --> 01:33:23,760
sauce with this project of entering
Perry Electric and entering the um

1058
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:27,120
storage facility.
Um,

1059
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:32,639
so people are coming in and off the
highway. Our driveway is roughly 200

1060
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:36,400
feet long to share that access to come
in and off the highway.

1061
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:40,239
» What
>> I miss might have missed this in the

1062
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:46,400
conversation today, but who did you work
with or have you worked with anybody for

1063
01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:50,719
the the study for any new runoff created
by the hard surfaces and

1064
01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:54,080
» all?
you calculate it all in your

1065
01:33:52,480 --> 01:33:59,360
» basically I've used the internet to
determine the uh the size of the

1066
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:03,120
basically solid surface areas and they
base it off the 100 year flood you got

1067
01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:07,520
to store it I have it all written down
at home with the calculation but um you

1068
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:13,040
got to store it for a period of time um
you need to have so much volume uh your

1069
01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:15,280
retention pond has to be a certain slope
um

1070
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:18,280
» what is the volume runoff created by
this

1071
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:26,960
Well, in previous projects, there were
studies done. Some That's why mask

1072
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:29,920
» and I don't blame you. That's if if you
were to put that in there, require me to

1073
01:34:28,639 --> 01:34:34,080
hire an engineer, that would be a
burden.

1074
01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:41,000
» I would spend probably around $80,000 to
give you a stamp drawing that says what

1075
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:41,000
the runoff needs to be.

1076
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:50,000
Um
I'm a bit fixated on the runoff part of

1077
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:55,920
the detention basins and tent for moment
because I struggle with a neighbor

1078
01:34:53,679 --> 01:35:00,639
and the city has that problem and you
put a detention basin in and it's silts

1079
01:34:58,159 --> 01:35:07,920
in over time but there's no requirement
to maintain the calculated depth of that

1080
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:11,040
so it really becomes ineffective.
>> One thing is we want all the equipment

1081
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:14,960
to do it all. We'll be doing all our own
site work here. We'll be doing our own,

1082
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:18,880
you know, I own Artsmith Electric. We'll
be doing our own geothermal system with

1083
01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:23,120
our own staff. Um, we'll be doing our
own excavation,

1084
01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:28,960
applying our rock compaction, and then
subbing out the concrete in the building

1085
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:34,560
portion. Um, uh, I know the previous
owner basically has already spent a

1086
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:39,199
substantial amount of money on retention
water there along with the access

1087
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:43,360
underneath the highway and pieces
already. They're only going to be a huge

1088
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:47,600
benefit for me as we collect that
100-year flood rain and then slowly

1089
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:52,239
discharge it. So I know the city
implemented plan

1090
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:54,960
obviously that that has to be examined
and maintain

1091
01:35:53,040 --> 01:36:00,239
» I can think of three projects in decor
lost because basically what their

1092
01:35:56,719 --> 01:36:05,600
requirements are for storm water
>> but I think you're putting the storm

1093
01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:10,960
water in the front of your main office
and showroom and I think in your own

1094
01:36:09,199 --> 01:36:16,159
interest you did that on purpose putting
it in the front and intend to use it as

1095
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:20,719
a feature rather than a liability. It's
100% a feature. So, realistically, I'd

1096
01:36:18,639 --> 01:36:25,440
like it to be larger than needed, you
know, to have a pond out. Um, and we

1097
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:29,520
want to put a color changing uh some
lights in the water to have a fountain.

1098
01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:34,080
Um, honestly, it's going to be one of
our focal points. And just like, you

1099
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:39,360
know, the the colors and stuff I use in
front of the bowling alley of the wood

1100
01:36:36,719 --> 01:36:43,520
grain textured look to make it look
vibrant. That's I'm going to use this

1101
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:47,040
pond to do the same thing with. you
know, we want this pond even to the

1102
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:50,719
point potentially we might put a bridge
across the pond as more of a a

1103
01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:55,199
decorative piece.
>> So, you have no study saying you need

1104
01:36:53,280 --> 01:37:00,320
that retention pond?
>> Uh, just my own logic knowing that we're

1105
01:36:58,159 --> 01:37:06,320
taking permable farm ground and turning
into a solid surface

1106
01:37:02,239 --> 01:37:10,400
» with the various colored light feature.
>> It would

1107
01:37:08,159 --> 01:37:13,520
I mean I I'd like it to look nice kind
of like courthouse does here.

1108
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:16,960
» Yeah.
We have color changing lights on the

1109
01:37:14,719 --> 01:37:21,119
courthouse to make it look nice
>> for specific holidays. Otherwise,

1110
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:25,679
» okay, that's a different subject. We
have we learned everything we need here

1111
01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:31,320
in the public hearing.
>> Move to close the public hearing.

1112
01:37:27,119 --> 01:37:31,320
» Second everybody.

1113
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:38,239
» I asked already
have a motion and a second to close the

1114
01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:41,800
public hearing. Who's the second
>> that mark that?

1115
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:48,199
» All those in favor say I.
>> I

1116
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:48,199
suppos

1117
01:37:59,679 --> 01:38:07,360
I think I've already stated on some of
it.

1118
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:14,080
The CSR is a we have to accept that
fact. Um there's only so much land for

1119
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:18,239
sale along a major road. It's hard to
find it.

1120
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:21,760
Uh I think you have to take advantage of
what's offered.

1121
01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:29,840
So
the CSR I do not have a problem with.

1122
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:36,800
And it said number three was using CSR
ground for storage units. in C1 number

1123
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:43,679
20 rental storage facilities are listed
in C1. So it is a fit for the C1

1124
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:50,800
number of acres requested for the
zoning. go back to the top which

1125
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:55,600
generally requires substantial land area
that is out of point and the public

1126
01:38:53,360 --> 01:39:04,159
safety due to heavy traffic on Highway
52 potential driveway permit is going to

1127
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:09,119
be allowed. The DOT looks at that and
that also states that C1 should be on

1128
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:13,760
the major traffic.
So,

1129
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:20,719
the only one that possibly goes in there
is spot zoning and with the relationship

1130
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:26,000
um distance to the other facilities that
we listed. I don't believe spot zone.

1131
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:30,480
Those are my views.
>> No, I'm with you there with you.

1132
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:35,119
» I would say the the county seems to want
to grow that direction already. So, it's

1133
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:39,440
not like we're
>> it's creating a new precedent in that

1134
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:42,880
respect.
And I think that's average farmland.

1135
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:46,800
» I mean,
>> it's a good it's a good economic

1136
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:49,679
contribution to
>> and we got to go you got to go up to the

1137
01:39:48,639 --> 01:39:54,480
top of the hill if you're going to
develop now because the core is full. I

1138
01:39:52,239 --> 01:39:57,600
» mean, you got and there's only four ways
to go and

1139
01:39:57,119 --> 01:40:01,520
and
>> that's where we're at and it's gonna

1140
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:06,000
just keep growing. That's yeah,
>> there's not too many sites along there

1141
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:10,080
that have the proper line of sight for a
good driveway access and you're not

1142
01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:14,239
going to be able to
>> I don't think you're going to

1143
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:18,080
accommodate many other sites because of
curves and so forth that come down the

1144
01:40:16,639 --> 01:40:23,000
way. So, I think it's a good I think
it's a good site for it. Um,

1145
01:40:23,199 --> 01:40:29,920
I I don't see a problem.
>> Going back to one of your comments,

1146
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:34,960
Steve, where you said
um about the close to business sign. I

1147
01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:38,239
think that's a sign that we need to take
down here county.

1148
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:42,480
» Yeah. Don't want to see that because we
we're graduating our intellectual

1149
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:46,400
capital from all of our schools. And
what do we expect for them to do in the

1150
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:50,000
future? Are they going to take and leave
the community and go elsewhere or are we

1151
01:40:48,639 --> 01:40:57,119
going to take and make an effort to take
and build business, promote business

1152
01:40:52,719 --> 01:41:02,960
that is good business following? Uh I
think this is a good opportunity.

1153
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:08,400
» And you talk about schools 51 51 some
percent of that tax dollar is theirs

1154
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:12,400
and it probably go up a couple percent
but they're the they're the biggest

1155
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:16,960
gainer out of this here. Yeah. you know,
the school system is any business that's

1156
01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:19,920
I mean, it's come on, it's just a
norainer.

1157
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:26,000
» But going back to something Shirley said
also is that it was a unanimous decision

1158
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:28,000
amongst the PNZ and that quite honestly
just baffles me.

1159
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:32,960
» Me too.
>> Because the more I've read through this

1160
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:37,119
and read through it, I'm like, I just
don't see where they were coming from.

1161
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:41,000
And if we had one person sitting on P&Z
tells them delete town,

1162
01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:48,719
that's really disturbing. I mean, you're
somebody on PNZ tells you to go to a

1163
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:51,840
different town. That's just that's just
downright that's not even

1164
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:55,360
» but they were they were referring to
another town within

1165
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:58,880
» within W.
>> Not within Wish County. if that town was

1166
01:41:57,679 --> 01:42:04,159
not within county.
>> No, the one was

1167
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:08,480
» was space available in there was but
obviously they also have operations in

1168
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:14,639
other surrounding counties that they can
donate to. So that was just a bit I just

1169
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:17,840
» and I and I really always support try to
support what DNC does. They do good

1170
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:25,199
work.
>> I was previously on port on PNC. Uh Dan

1171
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:29,239
was previously on PNZ and I'm bewildered
as to why this would be a seven.

1172
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:37,639
» You have any comments, Shirley?
I have a lot of comments, but um

1173
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:48,840
uh were there conversations leading up
to this from board members with anybody?

1174
01:42:50,639 --> 01:43:00,239
I I might made up any phone calls.
>> Yeah, I got a phone call and I answered

1175
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:02,560
questions. That's my responsibility
>> from

1176
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:07,440
» the residents
>> from the from Perry Perry Novak. I'm

1177
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:10,000
Perry Russell.
>> Well,

1178
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:14,080
I'd like
>> So, you communicated with Russell Novak

1179
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:17,840
before today's hearing on it?
>> Did I communicate with him? I answered

1180
01:43:15,679 --> 01:43:21,119
questions from as a supervisor. are
>> what questions were asked. Can you share

1181
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:24,719
in the public hearing
>> about things that he

1182
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:30,560
» so we can all know
>> only things that he revealed here today

1183
01:43:27,679 --> 01:43:38,000
the approval of the DOT
>> and the location I I I clarified where

1184
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:42,480
that driveway was for sure. Uh looking
at the corn as we drive by trying to

1185
01:43:40,719 --> 01:43:46,400
determine which one it was. I'm glad
that that is in that particular location

1186
01:43:44,480 --> 01:43:50,560
because I think the traffic issue is
then solved.

1187
01:43:48,239 --> 01:43:54,199
I don't see I see no problem with
answering his questions.

1188
01:43:54,639 --> 01:43:59,040
» Mark, did you have any
>> I said public just wanted to know why

1189
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:06,440
PNZ turn
>> no any conversations with um Hunter or

1190
01:44:03,440 --> 01:44:06,440
No

1191
01:44:06,639 --> 01:44:13,679
» I just talked to the public.
>> No conversations with the parties. I

1192
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:16,800
just said I just talked to the public.
>> Are you considering Novak Electric the

1193
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:19,600
public statement?
>> I'm just saying surely I talked to the

1194
01:44:18,719 --> 01:44:23,440
public.
>> I answered the public.

1195
01:44:20,719 --> 01:44:33,119
» I did talk to Russell. He called me. I
answered my phone when the phone rings.

1196
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:38,000
We had a very brief talk and uh asked me
if I knew anything about the PNZ and all

1197
01:44:35,199 --> 01:44:45,360
that and I said just what I read.
I had a call from John Nielson, but I

1198
01:44:41,119 --> 01:44:49,920
said I and I had been at that meeting
and said I really couldn't comment on it

1199
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:56,320
because it's basically opening something
with us. But he declined enough offer to

1200
01:44:53,440 --> 01:45:01,440
look at, you know, plans because I had
seen him. So did you

1201
01:44:59,679 --> 01:45:04,800
» I got a call from John and I said I
could not discuss because that would be

1202
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:07,920
considered expartite.
>> You answered your phone.

1203
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:11,440
» I didn't discuss anything.
I said I can't talk about it. Is that

1204
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:14,560
correct, Chuck?
>> All right. So, I think we just need to

1205
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:18,800
get back to what we're
>> I'm not finished with my comments. So,

1206
01:45:17,119 --> 01:45:23,440
another question I have and I get back
to the consistency issue and I wish the

1207
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:29,600
PNC commission were here to represent
themselves when they they allow two

1208
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:36,080
others in similar situation.
Um, but not on this one. I am perplexed

1209
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:41,440
by that as a board member. But for
consistency sake, I was also the lone no

1210
01:45:38,639 --> 01:45:45,360
vote on the other two that I brought up
here because the ordinance also talks

1211
01:45:43,679 --> 01:45:50,480
about the beauty of the county and
protecting that beauty. And this is just

1212
01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:55,360
my own opinion and feeling, but a
colored fountain up on the vista of

1213
01:45:52,880 --> 01:46:00,080
Highway 9 coming in or highway 52 coming
into Decora.

1214
01:45:58,159 --> 01:46:04,080
I don't know what what are we about as a
county and what do we want to look like?

1215
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:09,520
That's just a personal opinion. beauties
in the eyes they behold her. Of course.

1216
01:46:06,639 --> 01:46:14,480
Um, so I'm I'm really torn on this.
>> So we got colored lights on a bridge

1217
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:19,080
leading decor. What What's any different
from that?

1218
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:19,080
» I'm just really torn on this boat

1219
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:25,040
and those are for holidays
>> on the on the bridge out there just for

1220
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:29,600
holidays.
>> And I didn't vote on that and it's not

1221
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:31,520
part of the city hearing today.
>> No,

1222
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:36,080
» this is not part of our hearing today.
I'm just talking about this specifically

1223
01:46:34,159 --> 01:46:42,400
and I appreciate their their business
here. I do. This is a tough one.

1224
01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:45,400
» Would anyone be interested in the
reading?

1225
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:53,600
» Motion for the first reading.
>> Second.

1226
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:59,639
» I have a motion and second
for the first reading of the no lock

1227
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,639
reszoning request.

1228
01:46:59,679 --> 01:47:06,159
All those in favor say I.
>> I.

1229
01:47:03,199 --> 01:47:09,639
» Those opposed.
Motion passes.

1230
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:15,679
Ordinance amending the county zoning
ordinance to change the zoning

1231
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:19,440
classification from A1 agricultural
district to C1 highway commercial

1232
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:24,000
district for the herein described
property. Whereas a request for

1233
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:28,080
amendment to the zoning ordinance of Wy
County was submitted to the planning and

1234
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:31,280
zoning commission. said request having
been acted upon by the planning and

1235
01:47:29,679 --> 01:47:36,159
zoning commission following a public
hearing. And whereas the request for

1236
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:40,560
amendment of the zoning ordinance
pertains to the following described real

1237
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:47,600
estate. A portion of the northeast
quarter of the southwest quarter of

1238
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:54,560
section 29 of township 98 north range 8
west of the fifth PM Wick County aisle.

1239
01:47:51,920 --> 01:48:00,320
Whereas the said zoning request
requested that the property be reszoned

1240
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:05,600
from A1 egg cultural district to C1
highway commercial district. And whereas

1241
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:11,199
a notice of the time and place of public
hearing on said request was published

1242
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:17,040
pursuant to law. And whereas a public
hearing as required has been conducted

1243
01:48:13,199 --> 01:48:20,800
by the Wii County Board of Supervisors.
Whereas the Wii County Board of

1244
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:25,360
Supervisors has considered the Wesi
County Comprehensive Plan and their

1245
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:30,159
review of the applicant's request and
does find that the request is consistent

1246
01:48:27,679 --> 01:48:36,320
with the policies and goals set out in
the Wiki County Comprehensive Plan and

1247
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:41,440
now therefore be it resolved by the Wish
County Board of Supervisors that zoning

1248
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:45,600
classification as to the following
described real estate a portion of

1249
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:52,480
northeast quarter of the southwest
quarter of section 29 of township 98

1250
01:48:48,719 --> 01:48:57,760
north range 8 west of the 5th PM Wishik
County Iowa is hereby changed from A1

1251
01:48:55,440 --> 01:49:03,119
agricultural district to C1 highway
commercial district

1252
01:49:00,639 --> 01:49:08,880
to that the zoning map of Wesi County
Iowa be modified to reflect this change

1253
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:13,440
repealer all ordinances and parts of
ordinances in conflict with this zoning

1254
01:49:11,199 --> 01:49:18,080
ordinance or inconsistent with the
provisions of this ordinance are hereby

1255
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:23,600
repealed to the extent necessary to give
this ordinance full force and effect.

1256
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:28,159
Servability clause. If any section part
or provision of this ordinance shall be

1257
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:32,560
judged invalid or unconstitutional,
such adjunction shall not affect the

1258
01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:37,040
validity of the ordinance as a whole or
any section, provision or part thereof

1259
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:40,960
not a judged, invalid or
unconstitutional.

1260
01:49:39,119 --> 01:49:45,920
The effective date this ordinance shall
be in full force in effect after its

1261
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:48,920
passage and publication as provided by
law.

1262
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:57,280
» So are we
going to require any conditional uses at

1263
01:49:55,119 --> 01:50:00,239
all on this zoning request?
>> I don't believe we can. It had to be

1264
01:49:59,199 --> 01:50:06,600
done during the public hearing.
>> But you did not to be clear.

1265
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:06,600
» No one brought forward.

1266
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:15,040
I move to wave the second and third
readings.

1267
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:21,119
» And a second to wave the second and
third readings of the Novak electric

1268
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:25,600
zoning request.
>> All those in favor say I.

1269
01:50:23,199 --> 01:50:31,400
» I.
Those opposed. Same sign. Motion passes

1270
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:31,400
unanimously.

1271
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:43,440
We got possible action. There you go.
Wet County Auditor.

1272
01:50:42,639 --> 01:50:48,400
» Thanks, Tony.
>> All problems fixed by the problems fixed

1273
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:54,960
that are up and running.
>> Thank you.

1274
01:50:50,159 --> 01:51:00,880
» I move to approve the zoning request.
>> I have a motion second. That was just a

1275
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:05,440
vote a minute ago to wave the second
>> second and third reading.

1276
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:08,440
» Right now we have a motion and a second
zoning

1277
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,880
ordinance.

1278
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:22,800
Is there any further discussion on my
vote

1279
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:27,040
with faith that people follow through
with the inventions were stated today?

1280
01:51:25,199 --> 01:51:31,199
So,
>> I'm with you on that and I believe they

1281
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:34,560
will.
>> I I would like more information from BNC

1282
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:37,560
and I wish they would have been here
too.

1283
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:44,239
» Just anyone would like to meet, you
know, in the next couple of months. We

1284
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:46,719
aren't going to do much work till next
year.

1285
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:48,639
» But nothing's binding after today.
>> It's not. But that doesn't mean we can't

1286
01:51:48,159 --> 01:51:54,159
talk.
>> Yeah.

1287
01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:57,360
» Well, I want to hold all those in favor
talk. Mark.

1288
01:51:55,760 --> 01:52:03,199
» Hi. Shirley.
>> Uh, for consistency reasons, I'm a no.

1289
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:07,960
» I
>> I also pass this 4 to one.

1290
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,840
» I would love to meet with you sometime.
>> That's my problem.

1291
01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:22,719
» I know. Thank you so much.
>> Thank you for your time.

1292
01:52:20,639 --> 01:52:30,040
» Thanks for
>> Thank you, John. Thank you.

1293
01:52:26,159 --> 01:52:30,040
» Rise in the challenge. Tate.

1294
01:52:30,239 --> 01:52:33,639
» Thank you all.

1295
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:41,800
» Next
morning,

1296
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:56,320
» I'm glad you guys meet on Mondays and
not regularly on Tuesday. Yeah,

1297
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:59,760
» I bet. Fourth day
>> crazy.

1298
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:04,360
» At least you dress up for us.
>> Just trying to close the place up, you

1299
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:04,360
know.

1300
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,400
» Um

1301
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:17,760
think the only item I have on the agenda
for you is the appointment of uh Will

1302
01:53:13,119 --> 01:53:24,719
Marks as a deputy sheriff. Um, given the
fact that he is Dan Marx's son, I sent

1303
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:29,679
you a copy of a resolution and also a
policy concerning employment relatives

1304
01:53:27,679 --> 01:53:35,440
and a little bit of background in
information last Friday. Um, happy to

1305
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:38,440
answer whatever questions that you have.
But

1306
01:53:38,480 --> 01:53:47,440
back up a little farther. Uh, two years
ago, Civil Service Commission met and

1307
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:51,360
they put their list together and Will is
on it

1308
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:55,599
with Dan and said, "Well, you know,
we'll deal with this if we ever have to

1309
01:53:53,119 --> 01:53:59,920
deal with it."
Here we are.

1310
01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:05,520
» Um, so
we're down to three people on that list.

1311
01:54:02,719 --> 01:54:11,440
Um, one is an McKe County resident who
is not willing to move to Wesake. um

1312
01:54:08,159 --> 01:54:14,800
that individual is ineligible. Uh
another one withdrew their name and

1313
01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:20,880
decided they wanted to stay at the
employment that they currently have and

1314
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:28,960
uh will is still on the list. Will
tested well. He was vetted by civil

1315
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:33,599
service um and at the time of his
potential appointment by you folks would

1316
01:54:31,119 --> 01:54:39,920
be about two and a half years in as a
law enforcement officer. I've been

1317
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:46,560
working with him on occasion on cases
he's been involved in. Um, very positive

1318
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:51,760
experience. He's uh he's learning. He's
coming along. He's asking good

1319
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:58,960
questions. I followed up talking to
officers that he works with at the PD.

1320
01:54:55,199 --> 01:55:03,840
I've talked to sheriff's deputies. Um,
same thing. You know, he's he's making

1321
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:09,040
progress. He's doing the right things.
He's asking right questions. and he'll

1322
01:55:05,599 --> 01:55:14,880
be he'll be a um a good law enforcement
officer for Lynch County regardless of

1323
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:21,280
where it's at down the road.
Um next question we had to address is um

1324
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:27,520
we have a common policy against hiring
relatives and state code provision

1325
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:33,280
limiting the ability to hire a relative.
Um

1326
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:41,119
and how did those two fit together? Um,
in state code, you folks uh set the bond

1327
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:46,560
for uh officers and deputies within the
county. And the code says that as long

1328
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:53,639
as you set the bond for this individual,
that provision regarding um working for

1329
01:55:49,119 --> 01:55:53,639
a family member is waved.

1330
01:55:53,840 --> 01:56:04,159
You also um control the terms of the um
employment handbook which restricts

1331
01:56:01,199 --> 01:56:10,800
hiring of family members.
And you can wave that provision for good

1332
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:14,880
cause and in this case I've tried to
identify a number of factors within the

1333
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:24,159
resolution that would constitute good
cause. Not the least of which is um you

1334
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:29,599
know if I go out and say my daughter
wants a job in my office as a secretary

1335
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:33,760
I'm the only person evaluating her
abilities and hiring her would be

1336
01:56:31,599 --> 01:56:41,520
inappropriate.
Here the deputy is vetted by the civil

1337
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:48,080
service process um completely outside of
the control of the sheriff. um sheriff

1338
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:52,719
has input obviously in terms of what's
happening in that process, but the

1339
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:58,880
decision as to who goes on the list is
done by the civil service commission. So

1340
01:56:56,639 --> 01:57:06,719
there's a
there's a safeguard in place um safety

1341
01:57:03,199 --> 01:57:13,760
rail so to speak and I think
with that in place um my thought was you

1342
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:19,280
know legally this can happen meeting
certain criteria

1343
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:24,480
um in a belton suspenders move I called
Lynch Dallas and said hey here's what

1344
01:57:21,679 --> 01:57:29,040
I'm seeing can you take a look at this
uh this with Maddie for a while. She

1345
01:57:26,639 --> 01:57:34,400
said, "Yeah, I'm in agreement with you.
You may want to do, you know, make sure

1346
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:39,119
that, you know, there's written policy
in place. Yeah, we're working on that

1347
01:57:37,199 --> 01:57:44,960
and you may want to include X, Y, and
Z." And, yeah, so we implemented those

1348
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:51,280
ideas. And
long story short is in the resolution, I

1349
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:55,920
lay out the steps that you would need to
take if you choose to make this

1350
01:57:52,880 --> 01:58:00,400
appointment. a rationale for why you're
making the appointment and why you're

1351
01:57:58,159 --> 01:58:09,040
suspending the county policy and why
you're approving the hire um under the

1352
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:14,480
state policy as well and uh ultimately
making an appointment um that's

1353
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:20,239
effective November 9th.
The other piece of this that's attached

1354
01:58:17,119 --> 01:58:26,320
is the written policy itself.
um basically putting this hire under the

1355
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:30,639
supervision of the chief deputy. Um you
know, it's one thing if Dan says, "Hey,

1356
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:36,639
we're going to, you know, we're going to
have an officewide meeting on Thursday."

1357
01:58:34,239 --> 01:58:40,719
Um probably not something that needs to
go through the chief deputy to say,

1358
01:58:38,239 --> 01:58:46,960
"Well, you need to be here on Thursday,
or you know, we're going to we're going

1359
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:52,480
to fill our cars with gas at whatever
station."

1360
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:58,880
um that can apply to everybody. When it
comes time to say, you know, we need to

1361
01:58:55,280 --> 01:59:06,239
uh review um potential disciplinary
issues, we need to review um uh work

1362
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:11,199
assignment um you know, or maybe patrol
officer, investigator, you know, those

1363
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:17,119
types of things. That becomes a chief
deputy decision.

1364
01:59:13,199 --> 01:59:22,639
And rather than uh
rather than leave that to kind of a whim

1365
01:59:19,679 --> 01:59:29,520
of any sort, we reduce that to writing
policy and is uh safeguard and I visited

1366
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:34,239
with uh Steve and also with Dan about
this that you know if this policy if

1367
01:59:32,239 --> 01:59:42,960
they get working with it and say you
know this isn't quite working the way we

1368
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:48,880
anticipated it um come to me come back
to the board of supervisors.

1369
01:59:45,199 --> 01:59:53,840
It needs to be changed with
all of our approval. Um, not just, hey,

1370
01:59:52,400 --> 02:00:00,480
this isn't working. We're going to do it
different. So, you guys stay engaged in

1371
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:04,960
the process. And, and I think I think
that's important also.

1372
02:00:03,199 --> 02:00:09,280
So, I don't think I've covered
everything in here that that I've uh

1373
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:14,000
sent out to you, but I think it's most
of it. and I'm happy to field any

1374
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:16,960
questions if you have them.
>> So to be clear, main supervision would

1375
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:18,159
be with
>> Steve.

1376
02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:21,040
» Yep.
>> Right now, Chief,

1377
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:26,080
» just making it clear to the the people
watching and

1378
02:00:23,199 --> 02:00:30,960
» and today you're just presenting this
this part um and possibly approving the

1379
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:35,679
policy
and the actual appointment will still

1380
02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:40,639
come up on a future agenda or will that
>> the appointments in here also possible,

1381
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:45,119
» right? I didn't know for sure if that
was what the plan was.

1382
02:00:42,239 --> 02:00:49,360
» Great. The appointment would come up um
and it includes the start date of

1383
02:00:46,719 --> 02:00:55,360
November 9.
>> And I think Lynn was preparing some

1384
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:58,960
appointment documents because I don't
think we had those ready yet. So,

1385
02:00:57,280 --> 02:01:04,320
» Sure.
I had a rare I had a rare opportunity

1386
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:08,960
during the fair to run into
officer Marks at the fair and in a rare

1387
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:15,040
vignette of time where I got to be able
to spend about 30 minutes with him in a

1388
02:01:11,679 --> 02:01:19,520
direct conversation and with my because
I've spent a lot of years of

1389
02:01:17,119 --> 02:01:22,639
interviewing and recruiting. Uh I asked
him a lot of very pointed questions

1390
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:26,639
about his career path, what he planned
on doing and things of that nature. And

1391
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:32,480
you know, my my take away from the whole
thing was a very squared away young man

1392
02:01:29,119 --> 02:01:38,320
who uh is a real credit to uh proper
upraising and good work ethic. And I

1393
02:01:35,119 --> 02:01:43,119
think what he's demonstrated down at
Decor PD has been excellent from what I

1394
02:01:41,199 --> 02:01:49,280
see just from the outside and few
comments that I've heard. That was a uh

1395
02:01:46,239 --> 02:01:52,639
unusual not planned but had an
opportunity there which I'm really glad

1396
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:56,400
to see because he it gave me a really
good feel for the strength of that young

1397
02:01:54,800 --> 02:02:01,199
man.
>> I think it would be unfair to not give

1398
02:01:59,119 --> 02:02:05,840
him the opportunity just because of his
relationship with Dale. I mean that's

1399
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:12,080
just
very unfair and he is right now the only

1400
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:17,599
vet in Canada to the job.
>> Um that's correct. Which also brings us

1401
02:02:15,119 --> 02:02:23,679
to the second part of this story if you
want it now or

1402
02:02:20,239 --> 02:02:29,520
» and I alluded to that um
city of Kmer city of Ashen are looking

1403
02:02:26,239 --> 02:02:34,639
for more hours for law enforcement.
um

1404
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:40,960
when Med is looking for
hours.

1405
02:02:36,159 --> 02:02:46,080
Um next week I hope to have uh proposed
280 agreements for your review. But with

1406
02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:51,040
that,
assuming that those all go forward in

1407
02:02:48,239 --> 02:02:58,560
the hours that are being proposed,
you'd be looking at one additional

1408
02:02:54,159 --> 02:03:04,800
deputy being hired to cover not to cover
those, but to provide enough support

1409
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:13,599
within the office to provide the hours
that are being sought. Um the I would

1410
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:19,040
add that those hours and payment would
my understanding wouldn't cover the cost

1411
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:27,040
of another deputy. So there isn't an out
of pocket coming with that. But the um

1412
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:35,199
um the total hours the increase uh
would take care of that cost. But if you

1413
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:41,440
choose to do that, um it's going to kick
off civil service

1414
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:48,080
having to start a new list because
well is the last one on this one. that

1415
02:03:44,239 --> 02:03:54,320
» that means that um when the 280s are
implemented to keep the workforce up to

1416
02:03:51,840 --> 02:04:00,800
to be adequate to provide the coverage
countywide that you're looking for. Um

1417
02:03:58,159 --> 02:04:06,480
they need to be vetting more candidates
>> and those potential 28 days will go into

1418
02:04:03,599 --> 02:04:13,199
effect on January one. You'd have a
little bit of time. So just to clarify

1419
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:20,159
the increase in will cover all the
salary and most of the benefits. It does

1420
02:04:17,119 --> 02:04:26,080
not include some of the other side
things but Keelmer is providing a car

1421
02:04:23,199 --> 02:04:31,360
because they had a retired police
person. So they're are providing a car.

1422
02:04:28,159 --> 02:04:36,400
So initial cost wouldn't be another
patrol vehicle. you know, as you go

1423
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:42,239
through the cycle, five years down the
line, it might cost some more for a

1424
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:49,520
patrol vehicle. Um, Dan has said that he
would isn't seeking an increase in any

1425
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:55,199
of the training and equipment and radios
and vehicles, lines to cover this right

1426
02:04:52,639 --> 02:05:00,239
now, just this increase in revenue and
increase in salary and benefits.

1427
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:07,520
» Well, maybe Dan can speak on it too, but
he'll come next week. that the uh the

1428
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:11,840
cost given to Kell was a little reduced
with being able to reuse their vehicle,

1429
02:05:11,119 --> 02:05:20,239
» right?
>> So, I mean, the county is buying it, but

1430
02:05:18,159 --> 02:05:24,239
himself said that he would probably not
be able to get another squad car fitted

1431
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:30,760
and up and running by the first of the
year. So, was a win for Kelmer and it's

1432
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:30,760
a win for

1433
02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:39,360
a reason why we can't capture 100% of
the additional costs.

1434
02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:43,679
» It's the negotiations between those
three entities and Dan and they they

1435
02:05:42,239 --> 02:05:49,760
were targeting a number that would
provide the costs of deputy salary and

1436
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:53,040
benefits. And so that's where they ended
up

1437
02:05:50,159 --> 02:05:56,560
» and this next week's agenda,
>> but it isn't covering the entire cost.

1438
02:05:55,599 --> 02:06:01,599
You said
>> there would be some of those other

1439
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:05,119
things that will
>> eventually come through, but Dan thinks

1440
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:09,920
that he has enough money in his budget
to cover all that. So, he isn't asking

1441
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:13,760
for any increases to cover that.
>> The only increases he's going to ask for

1442
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:18,000
are going to be equivalent to the
additional revenue. But again, this

1443
02:06:16,239 --> 02:06:22,560
isn't actually what's on the table right
now. This is for next week. Right. But

1444
02:06:20,239 --> 02:06:26,400
but it does relate in the fact that
they're going to need another deputy for

1445
02:06:24,239 --> 02:06:30,639
January one and not have anybody left on
the list.

1446
02:06:28,239 --> 02:06:33,520
» The reason Well, we can talk about next
week, but the reason it's not going to

1447
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:39,679
cover all of it is Dan is planning on
using that deputy for a few hours of his

1448
02:06:36,719 --> 02:06:43,840
own additional work. So, that kind of
spills over into that. We can discuss

1449
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:48,560
that next week.
I I'd like to move to approve the waiver

1450
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:52,960
on hiring a family member, but I'd also
like to see if we could read that aloud

1451
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:56,079
so the public can hear what the the
verbiage sounds like on the waiver.

1452
02:06:55,440 --> 02:07:00,360
» I'll second.
>> Would you like to do that or would you

1453
02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:00,360
like

1454
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:04,040
» done two today?

1455
02:07:05,119 --> 02:07:12,480
» All right.
One I've never seen till just now.

1456
02:07:10,239 --> 02:07:16,239
resolution waving employment of
relatives policy approving appointment

1457
02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:20,159
by the sheriff's son as a sheriff's
deputy. Whereas the West County

1458
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:25,760
Sheriff's Office has an opening for
deputy due to the res resignation of a

1459
02:07:23,119 --> 02:07:30,079
current deputy. And whereas the Wish
County Sheriff's Office has three

1460
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:34,560
persons on the civil service list for
possible appointment as a deputy

1461
02:07:31,679 --> 02:07:39,119
sheriff. And whereas two of the ind
individuals on the civil service list

1462
02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:43,920
have withdrawn their names from
consideration. And whereas Will Marks, a

1463
02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:48,239
certified peace officer currently
employed with the Decor Police

1464
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:53,199
Department, is the remaining applicant
of the civil service list. And whereas

1465
02:07:51,199 --> 02:07:58,639
Will Marks is the son of West County
Sheriff Dan Marks. And whereas the way

1466
02:07:56,000 --> 02:08:03,440
she county sheriff desires to appoint
will marks as a deputy sheriff to fill

1467
02:08:00,639 --> 02:08:10,079
an upcoming vacancy. And whereas the
appointment of a relative as a sheriff's

1468
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:14,400
deputy is prohibited by Iowa code 71.1
unless the appointment is approved by

1469
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:20,560
the board of supervisors.
And whereas section 2.11 of the county

1470
02:08:18,079 --> 02:08:24,800
employee handbook imposes restrictions
on employment of relatives unless the

1471
02:08:23,119 --> 02:08:29,920
restriction is waved by the board of
supervisors for good cause. And whereas

1472
02:08:27,679 --> 02:08:34,719
the board of supervisors for good cause
desires to approve departments as a

1473
02:08:32,480 --> 02:08:42,079
deputy sheriff pursuant to the
requirements of Iowa code 71.1

1474
02:08:39,199 --> 02:08:47,760
and 331.903
based on the information provided as set

1475
02:08:44,239 --> 02:08:52,639
on the findings made below.
Now therefore be it resolved by the

1476
02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:57,280
Mishi County Board of Supervisors. One,
the Board of Supervisors is aware of the

1477
02:08:55,199 --> 02:09:02,960
following facts. There is one current
opening for a sheriff's deputy. B. A

1478
02:09:00,159 --> 02:09:08,239
second opening may arise near the first
of the year in 2027.

1479
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:12,000
C. Wishik or excuse me. Sheriff's
deputies are subject to review and

1480
02:09:10,239 --> 02:09:17,040
approval through the civil service
process as described in Iowa code

1481
02:09:14,719 --> 02:09:22,239
chapter 341A.
D. One eligible candidate candidate

1482
02:09:19,679 --> 02:09:25,920
remains on the current civil service
list.

1483
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:30,000
E. Will Marks will have apparent
approximately two and a half years of

1484
02:09:27,599 --> 02:09:34,000
experience as a peace officer when he
starts with the sheriff's office. L

1485
02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:37,679
through the civil service vetting
process, the most qualified candidates

1486
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:41,679
for a sheriff's deputy position are
selected. The search for the most

1487
02:09:39,679 --> 02:09:46,960
qualified candidates is consistent with
the provisions of section 2.11 of the

1488
02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:52,159
county employee handbook
which provides in part it is the

1489
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:57,599
county's policy to hire the best
qualified person available for each

1490
02:09:54,400 --> 02:10:03,199
position. Relatives
of current employees are eligible for

1491
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:07,520
employment with the county subject to
limitations of the state law governing

1492
02:10:05,599 --> 02:10:13,199
the employment of relatives of public
office and employees and the terms of

1493
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:19,840
this policy.
G. The Wii County Sheriff's

1494
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:24,480
Wii County Sheriff's will maintain a
policy to establish procedures for

1495
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:29,040
supervision of a relative of the sheriff
employed at the sheriff's office,

1496
02:10:26,719 --> 02:10:33,599
including having the employees work
performance, discipline, evaluation,

1497
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:38,960
scheduling, promotion, or assignment
under the sole supervision of the chief

1498
02:10:35,599 --> 02:10:43,040
deputy. H the proposed appointee is a
certified peace officer and the county

1499
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:47,599
will not be responsible for the cost of
training an uncertified hider at the

1500
02:10:45,679 --> 02:10:54,079
academy.
Two, attached hereto and incorporated

1501
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:58,239
herein by reference is a policy
concerning the employment of relatives

1502
02:10:56,560 --> 02:11:02,880
that will govern the wines county
sheriff when employing a relative as a

1503
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:08,400
deputy sheriff. The policy will not be
amended unless the amendment is approved

1504
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:15,599
by both the Wy County Attorney and the
Wish County Board of Supervisors. Three,

1505
02:11:12,159 --> 02:11:20,400
pursuant to Iowa Code 71.1, the Wshi
County Board of Supervisors have a duty

1506
02:11:18,079 --> 02:11:24,239
to approve the bond of the sheriff and
his deputies. And pursuant to that

1507
02:11:22,639 --> 02:11:29,280
authority, it does approve the
appointment of Will Marks as a sheriff's

1508
02:11:26,079 --> 02:11:36,760
deputy despite this being related to the
sheriff by the first degree

1509
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:36,760
consequenced

1510
02:11:39,199 --> 02:11:47,760
for that one. Four, for the reasons
stated at paragraph one above, the board

1511
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:53,520
of supervisors further suspend section
2.11 of the county employee handbook as

1512
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:59,280
it relates to this appointment. Five.
Pursuant to Iowa code 331.903,

1513
02:11:56,960 --> 02:12:03,199
the Wii County Board of Supervisors
approves the appointment by the Wii

1514
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:08,079
County Sheriff of Will Marks as a
deputy. Six. Will Marks will begin

1515
02:12:06,159 --> 02:12:12,880
working for Wishy County on November
9th, 2026.

1516
02:12:10,239 --> 02:12:18,480
Seven. The Wii County Sheriff shall file
a certificate of appointment with the

1517
02:12:15,199 --> 02:12:23,800
Wesi County Auditor passed and adopted
this 14th day of September 20th 26.

1518
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:33,920
» I'd like to change my motion to include
the full sentence, approval of waiver,

1519
02:12:30,719 --> 02:12:37,599
and appointment of that sheriff all in
one motion.

1520
02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:40,079
» Same as second. That's what I actually
have.

1521
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:43,119
» Okay. Okay. Just want to make sure.
>> And do we need to

1522
02:12:41,119 --> 02:12:45,599
» Yeah. So your motion is to adopt that
resolution. Thank you.

1523
02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:51,199
» Does both of those things.
>> Thank you. Do we need to add in item G

1524
02:12:48,719 --> 02:12:56,400
on this back page? The Winn Wet County
Sheriff's Office will maintain.

1525
02:12:54,400 --> 02:13:02,320
The office is missing.
>> Does it matter?

1526
02:12:57,679 --> 02:13:07,880
» You can write that in initial it.
And then here's the policy that goes

1527
02:13:04,159 --> 02:13:07,880
with it that you should

1528
02:13:12,639 --> 02:13:20,880
Okay, we have a motion and a second on
the tables that does the resolution.

1529
02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:25,679
» Just real quick in discussion part of
this um apologies to the city of Decor

1530
02:13:24,239 --> 02:13:29,599
police department for training yet
another

1531
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:35,440
deputy sheriff and can you know I'm
support this and and have met Will Marks

1532
02:13:32,639 --> 02:13:38,000
and can speak also for his profession.
of an apology. Maybe we should just give

1533
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:42,880
a thank you
>> and a thank you for training them and

1534
02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:46,400
giving us another great employee.
>> Okay. And we go with the roll call.

1535
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:47,679
» Hi Shirley.
>> Hi.

1536
02:13:47,199 --> 02:13:48,560
» Hi.
>> Steve.

1537
02:13:48,079 --> 02:13:52,199
» Hi.
>> I also fast.

1538
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:56,119
» Thank you.
>> Thanks.

1539
02:13:56,239 --> 02:14:07,920
So this pertains to all any
>> this is a one case this one case but it

1540
02:14:04,239 --> 02:14:14,639
pertains to all any county offices. They
cannot hire family members

1541
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:20,320
» unless we do this. We had a similar
>> we had a similar situation

1542
02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:23,639
six years ago or so during co that
public health

1543
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:34,639
daughter but she similarly they had a
policy of the board of health and then

1544
02:14:30,239 --> 02:14:39,040
uh she was overseen by Nancy at the
time.

1545
02:14:36,719 --> 02:14:42,440
So this is like spot
>> kind of. Yes.

1546
02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:48,199
» It's spot policy. I guess

1547
02:14:54,159 --> 02:15:02,239
just kidding.
>> I do have another question for you. As

1548
02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:06,320
long as you're here. Can you just
school us again or tell us what exparte

1549
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:11,440
communication is because it's very
confusing before public hearings when

1550
02:15:08,560 --> 02:15:17,440
you've got people calling you from the
parties. If you know that there is a an

1551
02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:23,840
issue coming up before the board and
you're getting phone calls from someone

1552
02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:28,239
who's a participant in that particular
issue,

1553
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:33,119
you one should tell them that this is
something a conversation we have at the

1554
02:15:30,079 --> 02:15:39,520
public hearing. And if you can't shut
them off and you get an earful um at the

1555
02:15:37,679 --> 02:15:44,079
public hearing you need to say that this
is what happened and this is the

1556
02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:49,040
information I was provided so that not
just one of you has the information all

1557
02:15:46,480 --> 02:15:55,119
of you have the same information all of
you can use that information to make an

1558
02:15:51,360 --> 02:16:01,840
informed decision. Um there's uh if you
look back, I've sent out stuff from Iowa

1559
02:15:58,719 --> 02:16:08,639
State, I think several times on exparte
communications. Uh it's it doesn't go

1560
02:16:05,119 --> 02:16:12,880
away. I get it. But, you know, be
cognizant of it and bring it to

1561
02:16:10,639 --> 02:16:16,079
everybody else's attention if you're
going to have those types of

1562
02:16:14,719 --> 02:16:20,159
conversations.
>> Thank you.

1563
02:16:17,920 --> 02:16:25,599
And if I may,
in a similar vein, but not pertaining to

1564
02:16:23,599 --> 02:16:30,480
any specific subject, I had a department
head that asked me about

1565
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:35,359
something he was going to propose to the
board and if he should just call each

1566
02:16:33,040 --> 02:16:39,120
board member individually and kind of
run it by them before he brought it to

1567
02:16:37,599 --> 02:16:45,439
the board. And I said, "No, you should
not do that because that's becomes a

1568
02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:50,240
traveling meeting or whatever you they
want to call it.

1569
02:16:46,880 --> 02:16:55,200
by him talking to each of you ahead of
time, you it's almost like you're having

1570
02:16:52,319 --> 02:17:00,719
a meeting amongst all of you. So if you
have a department or someone that wants

1571
02:16:57,359 --> 02:17:03,040
to do it that way, that shouldn't am I
saying that right, Andy?

1572
02:17:02,319 --> 02:17:06,719
» For all of us,
>> yeah, you should you should be be

1573
02:17:04,800 --> 02:17:11,359
cognizant of that. That shouldn't be the
way he way it's approached. So they they

1574
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:16,319
should bring it to you in in the meeting
or if it's just information it wants to

1575
02:17:13,599 --> 02:17:21,439
be distributed, send it to the group
email so you all have the information

1576
02:17:19,040 --> 02:17:26,080
before a meeting and then you can
discuss it at the meeting.

1577
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:29,679
Kind of it's hard because you don't know
who's on the other side of the phone

1578
02:17:27,519 --> 02:17:32,880
line all the time once in a while call.
I mean, I answered it,

1579
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:37,359
» right? But I didn't have
>> I I think the other the caveat to that

1580
02:17:35,120 --> 02:17:42,880
though is there are some of you assigned
to certain tasks um you know whether

1581
02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:47,519
it's landfill or recycling and whatever
else you know for those department heads

1582
02:17:45,040 --> 02:17:53,040
to come to the supervisors who is who
are assigned to their area and say hey I

1583
02:17:51,439 --> 02:17:56,399
see this as a benefit or this is
something I'd like to suggest what do

1584
02:17:55,120 --> 02:17:59,599
you think is
>> oh yeah

1585
02:17:57,359 --> 02:18:03,679
» at that point they can be told yeah
bring it to the Right. And I think that

1586
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:08,880
that's the key is that if they're
talking to just one of you, then it's

1587
02:18:06,479 --> 02:18:13,040
not a traveling meeting. It's when they
start when they hit three of you,

1588
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:17,280
they've now
made it a meeting even though it you

1589
02:18:15,519 --> 02:18:20,639
weren't all in the same room and on the
same phone call

1590
02:18:18,319 --> 02:18:24,160
» and and it does get cloudy and tricky
and and you don't know who's on the

1591
02:18:22,399 --> 02:18:28,399
other end when they're calling you. But
I think it's a good reminder for us to

1592
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:34,040
we we cannot have this conversation,
bring it up in the public hearing so we

1593
02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:34,040
all can hear it at the same time.

1594
02:18:34,240 --> 02:18:40,080
» Obviously your constituents is different
than if there's a public hearing.

1595
02:18:38,399 --> 02:18:46,439
» Yeah.
>> Or in play.

1596
02:18:43,439 --> 02:18:46,439
» Correct.

1597
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:53,840
with that
second

1598
02:18:52,319 --> 02:18:59,200
Germany.
>> No, you're okay. I'll tell you it.

1599
02:18:56,880 --> 02:19:03,519
» We did meet with um I just saw your
contractor's truck out here and Chuck

1600
02:19:01,439 --> 02:19:06,559
and I did meet with them down at uh
community services building.

1601
02:19:05,120 --> 02:19:09,679
» Thank you.
>> We had a nice conversation. They're

1602
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:15,920
going to try to sketch something out and
get some idea for what we're looking at.

1603
02:19:12,479 --> 02:19:20,960
I think the way we've structured it u
reduces the cost of mechanical

1604
02:19:17,840 --> 02:19:27,519
substantially. Um, so we'll see what
they come back with. But uh

1605
02:19:24,160 --> 02:19:33,920
when they do put that T essentially I
think we're talking about taking adding

1606
02:19:30,240 --> 02:19:41,599
walls taking up to the ceiling have to
light fixtures around but the um the

1607
02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:47,359
fire extinguisher stuff
lines the uh um duct work that type of

1608
02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:52,319
thing
minimal issues. So we're not, you know,

1609
02:19:50,080 --> 02:19:58,080
bringing those down to a drop ceiling
and all that other stuff. So hopefully

1610
02:19:54,560 --> 02:20:03,040
it works out.
So that they thought it was all doable.

1611
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:09,600
And they also felt they could sound
proof it well enough that uh you know at

1612
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:14,319
least until people get in there and say
it's not quite working then we can take

1613
02:20:11,600 --> 02:20:20,080
the next step. But but for the initial
start I think it looks promising,

1614
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:24,600
» right?
In favor of ajournment I

1615
02:20:33,760 --> 02:20:39,439
» next week.
>> Oh gosh.

1616
02:20:38,880 --> 02:20:43,560
» Thank
>> Thank you.

1617
02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:43,560
» Maybe I'll just be gone.

1618
02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:54,800
Not not really a business question, but
um

1619
02:20:49,680 --> 02:21:01,280
just to mention and has his staff asked,
does the board want to put on a

1620
02:20:58,160 --> 02:21:07,200
retirement party or anything for Andy?
And if so, we need to the staff is

1621
02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:11,600
concerned because he's got several
absences already planned. So he doesn't

1622
02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:16,800
they don't want to leave it till like oh
let's do it two weeks from now and find

1623
02:21:13,680 --> 02:21:22,800
out he's not available. So, does do one
of you want to maybe coordinate with Ki

1624
02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:27,439
Iverson and his one of his staff members
to try to figure out when's a good date

1625
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:30,640
and what you're going to do and that
kind of thing or

1626
02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:34,200
» you surely
>> Dan, you're the chair.

1627
02:21:34,800 --> 02:21:40,640
» Because I've asked about this for other
retiring people and we haven't done

1628
02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:42,399
anything.
Well,

1629
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:45,680
» I think it's appropriate and I think
it's appropriate for all long-term

1630
02:21:44,080 --> 02:21:48,680
employees who are retiring to have
something

1631
02:21:48,960 --> 02:21:54,240
» and I think the staff there and his
office are planning to do something

1632
02:21:52,880 --> 02:21:58,960
whether
>> you do it or not, but I think they'd

1633
02:21:55,920 --> 02:22:03,359
like to see you and the board involved.
>> So, it's different. He's elected. So,

1634
02:22:01,600 --> 02:22:07,920
» and and he's been here for over 30
years. So, that's a big difference if

1635
02:22:05,840 --> 02:22:11,680
someone's here for one term or
something. It's still different.

1636
02:22:12,880 --> 02:22:17,200
Dan seems to be Are you okay with doing
it if you

1637
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:22,080
» What What's the reasoning for
appointing?

1638
02:22:18,880 --> 02:22:26,840
» Why not?
>> Maybe he's hoping that you're going to

1639
02:22:23,600 --> 02:22:26,840
bring cheesecake.

1640
02:22:31,680 --> 02:22:36,920
All right, I'll do it.
>> Thank you, Dan.

1641
02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:40,200
Dr.

1642
02:22:40,479 --> 02:22:46,960
» Okay, Fatima, there's only one left.
>> Thank you, Fatima.

1643
02:22:44,800 --> 02:22:52,399
» I just wanted to make sure I had Ry's
name correctly. Nemo, is that right? is

1644
02:22:49,600 --> 02:22:52,399
the owner of