[0:02] They have it over there. So I saw it in
the compactor when I was operating. They
[0:07] don't use any of the software
>> for the G
[0:12] for their comp or anything.
>> Can you hear me?
[0:14] » They don't use any of that.
>> Yes.
[0:17] » They just use color.
>> Just so you know, the meeting is being
[0:20] recorded.
>> Yep.
[0:22] » There's three of us here.
>> Yeah.
[0:25] » Thank you, Fatima. So, I talked to the
manager in TMA County landfill um that's
[0:31] about the same size as us and uh
>> they're using
[0:37] » they're using it. Yeah. And they they
tried both looked out and they wanted to
[0:42] go with the same one and they've had it
for about eight years now.
[0:45] » Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And he said, "You'll be
[0:47] amazed." He was like, "You can use a lot
more of the the software and stuff to
[0:53] it, but they use the bare bones because
that's all they need." But he said like
[0:57] Cedar Rapids landfill, they put in
boundaries every day and they try to get
[1:02] all that garbage in the exact boundary.
He's like, "We don't do that because
[1:06] we're so small, you know, but they're
taking in five times as what we are a
[1:10] day." Uh, but he said, "You'll be amazed
when you get the first month's report,
[1:15] then second month's." He said, "You
might change the way you're doing things
[1:19] just to get a better compaction rate."
So, yeah. So, I'm going to talk to him
[1:24] down. He's going to be at the October
fall conference. So, I'm gonna talk to
[1:29] him stuff. More people down there. Yeah.
>> Interesting. Now,
[1:36] in summertime, try the water sprinkle.
[1:42] » Yeah. See what it is.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we can tell when
[1:48] we use the water, you know, we just
don't know how how tight we're getting.
[1:52] We'd like to see is it does it go from a
thousand tons per cubic yard up to 1,500
[1:59] or 1,800 or 2,000. What do we get?
>> Because we move garbage sometimes to
[2:05] make
stuff and we know when we get into the
[2:09] stuff that we added water to,
it's tight. I mean, it it's hard to dig
[2:15] with our excavator because it's just all
like sewn together.
[2:21] » You see all the stuff down there on mine
that they got to dig down there?
[2:25] The rock.
>> Yeah.
[2:27] » I don't know what they must have blown.
They must have blown out the weekend.
[2:30] Yes,
>> they're drilling.
[2:32] They blew that one first front part of
the truck, one section, ice.
[2:38] » You notice? Yeah, that was all down this
morning. I thought they have drilled
[2:42] down through the side there blasting.
>> I know they This is like second or third
[2:47] time they've drilled
>> drill.
[2:49] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. They had a lot of holes up there
[2:52] last week.
>> Yeah.
[2:54] » Yeah.
>> I don't know if they just drill real
[2:57] close together and then they didn't have
the blast as hard or as hard in terms of
[3:02] the buildings there.
>> Well, the day that they blew that first
[3:06] that section on the on the cover side
>> Mhm. I happened to be sitting right
[3:10] there at that intersection when they
blew it, you know, just getting it was
[3:13] just a puff of smoke and fractured it.
There was nothing.
[3:16] » Oh, just
>> I mean, it's just it's just fracturing
[3:19] the inside. There's not They didn't need
to put up any blasting or anything like
[3:23] that to keep
>> Yeah, that was just looked like just a
[3:29] little mushroom.
>> But then the second one actually blew it
[3:34] out of the gravel. you know where they
took out part of the road a little bit
[3:38] but
not that big the front there's a lot of
[3:44] » Oh yeah that's another thing the
landfill I'd like quite a huge crusher
[3:51] pressure down to three inches you know
see how it works because we're getting
[3:56] into six foot slabs right now over
you know so but we'll
[4:06] with all our money either,
[4:09] you know.
[4:13] But yeah, so it's going to take
take a a month or so to get the
[4:19] equipment put in for the GPS, but uh he
said two to three weeks, but I'll give
[4:25] it a month.
>> Training for the operators next to
[4:31] nothing.
>> Next to nothing. and and training's free
[4:34] for two years. So, he added he added
that in and he added in software uh for
[4:41] two years. So, there's software support
updates and everything. Um he added that
[4:46] in for two years
>> and it'll be a yearly deal.
[4:50] » Yeah.
>> Twice a year.
[4:53] » Yeah. Eight grand.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, Tim, if
[4:58] if we gain airspace, you know, that
grand
[5:02] » Yeah. Even this 142,000
uh will be paid for,
[5:07] » you know, short amount of time. And how
did the all that postal debris compact?
[5:15] » And then
it was like jelly.
[5:19] » Yeah. And and get
the moisture drags out.
[5:24] » Yeah. until that moisture goes down.
We're going on top of it today in our
[5:28] wet weather area and it's still soft.
We got we got 4 foot dirt on top
[5:36] just trying to bridge uh but it's it's
terrible
[5:43] » um 1100 ton about 2.2 million pounds
in a week and a half. Yeah. And I had to
[5:51] work on the compactor last week again.
Another hose broke. And the one time one
[5:57] time uh you know adult diaper came down
on my and in my mouth and my teeth. And
[6:05] this time it was maggots.
>> Did I just hear you?
[6:07] » Oh yeah. I was underneath of it about a
month ago when I got back from vacation.
[6:13] Now last week it was maggots that went
down in my ears and heads from the
[6:19] rotten meat.
[6:22] He was just stuffed up in his belly pan,
you know, taking it down. You got
[6:27] » Oh,
[6:30] it's part of, you know, that's part of
it, you know, just we got her cleaned
[6:36] out now, you know.
[6:40] Yeah. And usually when it can't go
anywhere else, it comes to the landfill,
[6:46] you know, and that's that's part of our
job, you know.
[6:50] Everybody's in there doing it, you know,
not just me. So,
[6:52] » yeah. In the Northwest, did they fill up
after all that flood debris and
[6:56] everything else did they fill with is
that already land?
[7:00] » Yes. Um, so they had to build a new new
cell earlier than what they wanted.
[7:05] » Oh, but they were they had ability to
build.
[7:08] » Yep. Yep. They acquired land to build uh
onto their exist.
[7:13] So, but yeah, that was
and that's where they offered me a
[7:20] position, you know, and the other guy
went there and he was like, "My gosh, I
[7:25] wouldn't know."
But you don't know on disasters, you
[7:30] know.
>> Hey, Mark.
[7:33] » We have a if we have a major disaster.
Hope we don't. I mean, we're going to
[7:36] fill up. Granted, we have 15 to 18 years
left, but
[7:41] we have a major disaster that might take
three years just like that or five
[7:44] years, you know, depends how many
counties get,
[7:48] » you know. So,
yeah, I can't remember what county that
[7:54] was now.
>> Yeah.
[7:59] » God darn it, I got a
>> over there. Was it?
[8:04] » It was up the town, but I can't
remember.
[8:09] Yeah, because he has that manager has
relation his daughter lives in Spis
[8:20] married.
They live in Spish,
[8:30] 35.
>> Yeah. Well, we got we got buggy brigade
[8:35] last couple years
a
[8:39] » really good
[8:45] double buggies.
[8:51] » Yes, that's
one.
[8:58] Do they really?
[9:04] » It's ridiculous. Yes, exactly.
>> Craig's house down there.
[9:09] » That's a nice house, too. I mean, nice
old woodwork. Yeah. He was
[9:16] seeing
[9:22] » letter of intent.
>> That's what I do.
[9:27] a fortuary.
>> Oh, really? I don't know. I never heard
[9:31] who heard.
>> Oh,
[9:37] I don't think that's I don't think
that's going to be workable.
[9:46] » Be nice if somebody look back at
>> Yeah, that's right.
[9:52] » Yeah, I don't know. I guess
>> I heard Yeah, somebody was interested in
[9:56] it,
>> which is good.
[10:00] That's something
[10:14] » that's good.
[10:23] » Yeah.
[10:26] » All right.
I teach James
[10:31] » Careful with all that garbage.
[10:35] » Just don't crawl underneath excavators.
>> Yeah.
[10:42] » Bam.
[10:59] What's your prediction when you start?
>> Oh,
[11:06] there's
a
[11:10] » Yeah,
guess
[11:18] which.
So
[11:22] » I wanted to get it concrete over
[11:27] » right now that's
feels over the last one we've been
[11:33] talking Mike why
[11:39] this like to overlay on there
sooner than it's just
[11:48] it should be
[11:55] part of the issue is
[11:59] » it's going to be a couple years,
[12:03] » but
[12:07] the dating institute
as API
[12:13] um and they have they want to do
an expensive high pro.
[12:24] So like do I do that
issue?
[12:36] » So it's always cracked. So that I don't
the cost benefit on that. I don't have
[12:42] the kind of things that I'm sure right
now.
[12:49] Yeah.
[12:56] » Yeah. Two, four,
[13:09] » a little bit. What did you have? Uh,
>> I had it head start August first day
[13:16] back.
[13:22] So they're having electronic
[13:26] not sure what they got going but
that
[13:35] is concrete.
[13:49] about
[13:55] trying to make the workers
help.
[14:03] Oh yeah.
[14:08] » Full extension.
>> Uh yeah, I can do a 90,
[14:11] » but it's still there's I'm still they do
the measuring.
[14:20] » Yeah, I mean
[14:29] somebody in the audience
>> I did the other one. So I'm glad I
[14:33] didn't. The other one feels straight
out.
[14:59] Yeah.
Oh, by the population
[15:28] makes sense.
[15:45] 55
[15:53] usual. What else? Why?
That's the uh Yeah, I get pulled over by
[15:59] Anton's
um Anton's dad.
[16:02] » Yeah, friend's dad.
>> This was
[16:07] about three weeks ago.
>> Just said he thought it was
[16:13] » I was going everybody else was and then
wants to slow downbody else.
[16:21] » He does. He does.
[16:34] the mail.
>> And I don't honestly don't
[16:42] just an hour and a half or less.
[16:47] Well, it's 9:30. All so choose. Please
stand for the pledge.
[16:56] I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[17:01] republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[17:08] justice for all.
[17:11] » Call the meeting to order with everyone
present.
[17:15] » Reminder, the meeting is being recorded.
If you choose not to be recorded, you
[17:18] have the option of leaving. First item
on the agenda this morning. Michael
[17:22] Kuny, our county engineer. Go ahead,
Mike. Um, not a whole lot to report on
[17:28] this week, generally speaking. Um, the
build grant, still have heard nothing uh
[17:33] on from the DOT on on that. Um,
subdivision, there's nothing new this
[17:39] week. Worry Hill, there's nothing new
this week.
[17:44] Bridge 307, there is something new. It's
now open. So, that's good.
[17:48] » It's new. That's great. That's been
closed for what? Four years, five years.
[17:55] So that's now open.
Um British crew uh worked on B16 Culver
[18:03] last week. Um
haven't confirmed with the uh
[18:08] superintendent what they're working on
this week with the weather and the
[18:11] short. So, don't know about that yet.
Uh, the Scoopit uh is headed to Locust
[18:18] this week. Uh, the Dura Patcher is still
above Locust this week.
[18:23] » Hey, Michael, did you get the new head
that brush head for the scoop yet? Uh
[18:27] the
he will be out the it's in Deuke so we
[18:33] have to outfit the um the scoop to
>> work with it with the the upgraded
[18:41] hydraulics and everything else. So
short answer is no. We haven't got it is
[18:47] in Martin Equipment's hands for us to
>> maybe in a month or by the time you
[18:53] start getting in fall season.
>> Yep. We're looking at an opportune time
[18:57] to do that. Correct.
Um annual report. I don't have anything
[19:04] new to report on that. I have to update
it uh for the DOT.
[19:10] Um something I did not report on last
week that is uh important is the FHWA
[19:16] bridge audit occurred on August 26th.
Our bridge inspector passed with high
[19:20] regards from the FHWA. So, our bridge
inspector is uh Chuck Britz and Brian
[19:25] Mcomes. So, that was good to hear. They
agreed with all of your assessments.
[19:32] Um,
three insurance claims instead of two
[19:36] insurance claims have now been filed
with IAP for accidents involving the
[19:40] road crew.
I will try to update you uh via email.
[19:45] Um the loan for 600,000 is still
reflected in the secondary red fund
[19:50] balance. Hoping to have that paid off
either this month or next month.
[19:56] Um bridge 126 final port was on Friday,
August 28th.
[20:02] That job very efficiently.
Uh Frankfold Road in place operation is
[20:09] finished. Um it is setting now. 4 in
overlay will likely begin I'll say in
[20:14] one week.
Um sidewalk work is being done while
[20:19] hold in place is setting and the traffic
study for 60 m per hour treatment is
[20:25] ongoing.
And then finally everybody has a bid tab
[20:30] for
the ice control bids. Um fuel bids are
[20:35] still outstanding uh here in a couple
weeks. So the the ice control rock um
[20:44] we increased the the tonnages in a ocean
and Freeport with the idea that we would
[20:50] use some of that uh as a way to base
stabilize some of our higher traffic
[20:56] gravel roads.
Um the per the per unit price is up
[21:02] about 10% over last year
with fuel prices
[21:09] Uh that's kind of
was not unexpected how that's how I can
[21:15] put it. Um so I recommend
um ice control
[21:24] the uh boarding of burning rock products
for the ice control pile at $223,176.50
[21:33] for all six shops.
How much did you increase the auction in
[21:39] Freeport?
>> Um the auction shop was 500 and the
[21:43] Freeport shop was 1,000.
>> So previous year it was 2,000 across the
[21:49] board.
[21:53] I move to approve the
control bid. Second. Have a motion and
[22:00] second to approve the Ice Rock bid for
Brooming Rock Products in the amount of
[22:07] 223,000
$176.50.
[22:12] Is there any further discussion?
All those in favor say I.
[22:17] » I.
>> Those oppos same sign passes unanimous.
[22:27] Thank you.
[22:33] And that's the report.
Have very busy internal
[22:40] work going on right now. So there are
questions regarding the report. I be
[22:45] happy to take them.
>> Have you looked at anything out by the
[22:51] Catholic cemetery there? Um I spoke with
the CUNIS um and I've worked with even
[22:59] before I talked to them I've been
working with the um city of the change
[23:03] that speed limit uh sign that they have
there at 35 miles per hour. I did this
[23:07] as part of my work for the 55 to 60 mph
and when I talked to them about that
[23:13] they were very happy with that idea and
so
[23:18] I left the communications there. They
seem to be very very happy with the 35
[23:23] mile per hour recommendation. Um I will
probably going in front of the uh city
[23:27] of Lora with that finding.
>> So
[23:32] city spilled city council will be
approving that intersection change there
[23:37] at the memorial
that left turn or the right turn.
[23:44] » You're coming if you're coming
southbound on W14 into school mill right
[23:47] there by the bank. There's a the
truckers are everybody's been supposed
[23:51] to stay right and go around memorial
>> and trouble is is
[23:57] straight through and a lot of lot of
folks just want to go straight through.
[24:01] That puts the sheriff's department into
a real quandry because they get these
[24:05] complaints and they don't think it's
justifiable that they have to give
[24:09] warnings. So, it's been lots of phone
calls over the years to the sheriff's
[24:13] office that are really unnecessary. I
met with Michael and so the idea is to
[24:17] simply move that sign, paint a curb on
the east side for no parking so that the
[24:24] other vehicles coming from Protoin on
B16 can make that with the turning
[24:29] radius can make that turn without some
impairment and everybody's pretty much
[24:34] did polling it's pretty much in favor.
So it'll just be done.
[24:37] » Okay. The only question is how far did
you want the turning radius blocking a
[24:43] curb as far as the intersection by the
bank on the would be the north side of
[24:48] that intersection.
>> I'd have to
[24:50] » I'll stop by.
>> Yeah, stop by. I'd have to kind of nail
[24:54] that down. I'd have to kind of see what
it is you're talking about exactly.
[24:57] » Want to get it marked out
because it'll be a relief for the
[25:02] sheriff's department.
[25:06] Anything
[25:11] else?
>> Did you guys ever look into taking my
[25:16] cow crossing out on 42?
[25:23] » We I know we looked into doing some work
on there, but I don't know exactly how
[25:28] to answer that question.
>> Fair enough. So, um the
[25:36] I think the person you need to talk to
is Mike Weise in our office. You can
[25:40] swing by and talk to him because he
worked all of that out with the uh the
[25:43] farmers there. So,
>> because I'm sure there's some sort of
[25:48] agreement for the battle
>> that discussion I had with him about two
[25:52] or three weeks ago and I just it's I'm
drawing a blank right now. I'm sorry.
[25:57] » No, that's fine. I can stop and talk. So
yeah,
[26:05] somebody was asking about the little
calmer road kind of what's going to be
[26:09] done. Talk to Michael.
>> Yeah, it's I've had a couple of
[26:14] complaints now that the um now that the
traffic from Highway 9 is being pushed
[26:21] onto Middle K Road a little bit. And
even before that happened, I was in
[26:28] discussions with the um I will Iowa
asphalt paving association
[26:34] uh as a way to
perhaps overlay the concrete with
[26:41] asphalt. What my best options were.
The suggestion was to go with a what's
[26:46] known as a hypro asphalt uh
layer on top of that on top of the
[26:53] current concrete that would allow it to
be more resilient to the the cracks that
[26:59] would come up from the concrete into the
asphalt. Um that's expensive long term.
[27:06] The best thing would be um more
concrete.
[27:11] Um that's going to
>> that would be over
[27:15] » the that would be a 2 inch would be yeah
be a 2inch overlay be that high promax.
[27:21] Um,
so
[27:24] the next
the next thing I would be the best thing
[27:30] would be would be to have a concrete on
top of concrete, but that's just just so
[27:34] much money and it's going to I'm trying
to save up my um FM balances. And if we
[27:41] do, if we were to put that concrete in
place
[27:47] at today's prices, we would wipe out a
whole bunch of other projects all around
[27:52] the county. So, I'm pretty much
relooking at what it is that we're going
[27:58] to do there. Um, because I do want to
push that forward. I want to make sure
[28:02] that we do get it before we'll call it
2030. Um
[28:08] it's it's just a reassessment here just
the deterioration of W42 south of Ashen
[28:17] the the W14 south of fort uh that
funding being up in the air and then
[28:26] um you know old stage is going to rear
its head uh here 2014 on Ridgeway.
[28:34] Yeah, that that that one is
[28:41] I don't have a silver bullet for that
one.
[28:44] » So,
>> um I know I know everyone wants gravel,
[28:47] but I'm again if we if middle calmer
people can live some cracks in some
[28:55] asphalt. Maybe we can also get to W14.
This is all long-term solutions here
[28:59] that I'm talking. How much more is the
cost on that asphalt you're talking
[29:02] about coming over?
>> Um
[29:07] I don't want to speak out loud because
uh I
[29:12] when I asked the same question
um they were hesitant to give but the
[29:19] the rough number on a weight average is
about 60% more.
[29:26] So,
I don't want to I don't want to
[29:30] » Yeah,
>> I don't want to pigeon hole the the I
[29:32] don't have the asphalt numbers. I don't
have high pro numbers. You have to take
[29:36] bids. It's highly variable. Um but we're
looking at 60% more on a per
[29:46] is it square yard basis. So,
>> interesting.
[29:56] What's your only 2?
[30:01] » Well, the
you would still need a 2 inch and then
[30:06] you would do you would surface coat with
that. So, it's Oh,
[30:11] » yeah.
>> I see two layers.
[30:13] » It's still two layers. You're not
getting on the two layer stuff. So,
[30:17] » it's just two inches of the expensive
stuff. that it it's that it's 2 in then
[30:24] it's a intermediate lift then it's the
one in so
[30:28] you're dealing with
yeah it's
[30:34] none of the options are screaming this
is what I want to do uh with any surgery
[30:40] on that so it's it's unfortunate that
way and it's a long road so the other
[30:48] problem with the concrete overlay is
that is looking into this. There's a
[30:54] couple of bridges
[30:57] have low clearance that that should
probably need rehab um if we go with the
[31:04] concrete. So that's the other
outstanding issue on that. So
[31:14] » yeah, this is I'm I'm hoping to, like I
said, crack this nut
[31:21] sooner than I'm not just trying to put
this off here. Okay. So,
[31:28] all right. Does anyone have anything
else for me?
[31:32] » Thank you. Y
[31:37] committee reports
[31:41] juvenile detachment
[31:47] » recycling committee meeting
>> Wednesday
[31:50] » Saturday historic preservation
commission here at 8:30
[31:57] and
>> PNC meets here at 7 o'clock tonight.
[32:03] » It's a public hearing for that
[32:08] » sign agenda.
>> Yes, we have the monthly report from the
[32:13] recorder. We have a class C retail
liquor license for Ktown TAP and we have
[32:20] the board minutes from August 31st. I
move to approve the consent agenda.
[32:27] Second motion and a second to approve
the consent agenda. All those in favor
[32:32] say I.
>> I.
[32:34] » Pull same sign.
This is unanimous.
[32:50] And this uh this is I don't know what
this is something from hacker Nelson
[32:57] and you probably have been briefed on
it. Essentially what it's saying is that
[33:02] they just need extra signatures. So they
have Ben's signature and Dan if you want
[33:07] to sign this. And when Ben shows up
he'll if there's anything you need to
[33:11] explain
[33:16] of them that has both your signatures on
it. So you're on there as chair of the
[33:21] board of supervisors.
[33:28] But as to the content of that, if
there's any questions, he'll be able to
[33:35] that.
I think it's probably your p your
[33:38] contractual relationship with them that
performing audit.
[33:42] Just need a little extra.
[34:03] That's it for the audit science.
[34:24] What are they with the uh services
upgrade for moving?
[34:31] » Yeah.
[34:36] » No, it's not in there.
>> Are they over here? Not here. Yeah.
[34:50] » Maybe their direction ought to be
changed. So back over there at community
[34:54] services. I don't think that is a high
priority by comparison. Would you agree?
[34:58] » No. I'll talk to
[35:07] Still shooting for the end of month.
Yeah,
[35:12] just coming right up.
[35:24] » Yes, you have a third reading in the
resolution
[35:29] declaring emergency medical services an
essential service at 9:50. Steven,
[35:36] » I move to approve of resolution for
emergency medical services.
[35:42] » Second.
>> We have a motion and a second to the
[35:48] third reading of the resolution
declaring emergency medical services an
[35:52] essential service.
[35:58] I hi
[36:08] the reading
push over again.
[36:15] That's a little unfair.
>> I'm glad you did the last one.
[36:26] » Steve,
can't stay awake, can you? Nope. Not at
[36:31] all.
[36:37] » While we're waiting, thank you again for
your years of service to this company.
[36:45] » All right, here we go for the third and
final time.
[36:52] A resolution declaring emergency medical
services an essential county service
[36:57] designating county EMS association as
the county EMS system advisory council
[37:03] and initiating the process for board
consideration of an emergency medical
[37:08] services tax levy pursuant to Iowa's
code chapter 422D
[37:14] whereas emergency medical services EMS
are critical to the preservation of
[37:18] life, reduction of disability and
protection of the public health, safety
[37:24] and welfare of the residents of Winnishi
County, Iowa. And whereas Wishi County
[37:30] is a predominantly rural county where
timely access to emergency medical care
[37:35] is heavily dependent upon the
availability, sustainability, and
[37:39] coordination of the local emergency
medical services agencies.
[37:43] And whereas emergency medical services
providers face increasing operational
[37:50] challenges including workforce
shortages,
[37:54] rising costs of equipment and training,
increased call complexity, and declining
[37:59] volunteer participation.
And whereas Iowa code chapter 422D
[38:06] authorizes the county board of
supervisors upon adoption of a
[38:10] resolution declaring emergency medical
services to be an essential county
[38:14] service to submit to the voters the
question of imposing an emergency
[38:19] medical services tax
including a borium property tax and
[38:26] whereas Iowa code 422D.1
1 2 B requires counties adopting such a
[38:35] resolution to coordinate with local
emergency medical services agencies to
[38:40] establish a county emergency medical
services system advisory council to
[38:45] assist in researching, assessing, and
guiding EMS service delivery within the
[38:50] county.
And whereas the Wesy County EMS
[38:56] Association is an established countywide
organization representing emergency
[39:02] medical services agencies within Wishik
County and is governed by duly adopted
[39:08] bylaws and regulations. And whereas the
board of supervisors finds the Wesy
[39:14] County EMS association is uniquely
qualified to serve as the county EMS
[39:20] system advisory council as contemplated
under Iowa code chapter 422D.
[39:28] Now therefore be it resolved by the
board of supervisors of Wesia County
[39:32] that section one declaration of
essential service emergency medical
[39:38] services are hereby declared to be an
essential county service in Wesik County
[39:44] Iowa pursuant to Iowa code 422D.1.
[39:49] Section two, designation of county EMS
system advisory council pursuant to Iowa
[39:55] code 422D.12B.
[40:00] Wishy county
EMS association is hereby designated as
[40:06] the Wishi County Emergency Medical
Services System Advisory Council. The
[40:11] advisory council shall consist of the
association's dulyapp appointed board
[40:16] members selected and serving in
accordance with the association's bylaws
[40:20] and governing res regulations.
Section three duties of the EMS system
[40:27] advisory council. The advisory council
shall serve in an advisory capacity to
[40:32] the board of supervisors and shall
research and assess EMS needs, guide
[40:38] system implementation, recommend funding
amounts for ballot propositions, prepare
[40:44] annual reports, and participate in
public meetings as required by Iowa code
[40:49] 422D.12
[40:52] C.
Section four, initiation of EMS tax levy
[40:58] process. The board declares its intent
to initiate the process for submission
[41:02] to the voters of Wish County the
question of imposing an emergency
[41:06] medical services property tax levy with
revenues deposited into the EMS trust
[41:12] fund as provided in Iowa code 422D.6.
[41:18] Section five, election requirements. The
board affirms that this resolution was
[41:23] considered at two meetings with proper
notice. B that any levy requires 60%
[41:30] voter approval and C that the resolution
shall be void if the tax fails, expires,
[41:37] or is discontinued pursuant to Iowa code
422D.1.
[41:43] Section six, effective date. The
resolution shall take effect immediately
[41:48] upon final adoption by recorded vote.
First reading a August 24th, 2026
[41:57] pass 50. Second reading August 31, 2026
pass 50
[42:09] hereby resolved by the board of
supervisors county on this September 8th
[42:16] 2026.
[42:19] Okay.
[42:31] I move to approve resolution. We don't
have a number.
[42:35] » No, that'll be a signed when we get
>> I move to approve the resolution for
[42:40] emergency EMS for this county for a vote
next year.
[42:45] » I'll second that. There motion and a
second to approve the resolution
[42:50] declaring emergency medical services an
essential service. Is there any further
[42:55] discussion?
[42:58] Ark.
>> Hi, Shirley.
[42:59] » I
>> Stephen.
[43:02] » Hi.
>> I also passes unanimously.
[43:27] That's your work on famous
you guys work on
[43:34] the work begins in public that you're
giving the public.
[43:39] » Yep. Thank you.
[43:47] probably showing them the situation a
lot of other counties are in not having
[43:52] services.
>> Yes, there's um lots of counties that
[43:56] are looking at this other counties that
are just scooting by. Um for Wy County,
[44:04] we have a good system and we look to
continue that service um as we have in
[44:12] the past and and make it even better.
So,
[44:18] » we'll be relying a lot on our local news
media to help us educate the public on
[44:23] the need for this and for a positive
vote.
[44:26] » I've been answering a lot of questions.
Yeah, there's and you don't have to go
[44:31] very far. Fad county's, you know, trying
to answer all those questions, too. U
[44:37] and so we'll we'll have answers. We'll
have answers and hopefully we'll uh
[44:43] educate people and get them out to vote.
>> Fed's voting this fall.
[44:50] » F is going in November. Yes.
[44:55] » Most people are acting positive toward
it. So that's a yes.
[45:02] » Once you tell them that if you this does
not pass, you may not have an ambulance.
[45:07] Well, they have to come.
>> No, no, they do not. I wish it says the
[45:12] ambulance has to show up.
[45:18] » I said I may agree with you that they
should have to, but that's not the way
[45:22] the state works at correct.
[45:38] Yeah,
[46:10] Well, it's 10 o'clock. Next item on the
agenda, the public hearing for NOAC
[46:14] electric reszoning.
Motion to open public hearing.
[46:18] » Second.
>> A motion and a second to open public
[46:21] hearing. All those in favor say I.
>> I.
[46:25] » Public hearing is now. What do you have
for us, Tony?
[46:28] » All right. Novach Electric is seeking to
reszone a piece of ground from A1
[46:32] agricultural to C1 highway commercial to
move their business entities out there.
[46:37] Planning zoning commission held a public
hearing on it a couple weeks back. Voted
[46:42] to recommend denial on it.
[46:48] » Were there public comments at the time
of that hearing?
[46:51] » Um
there was comments by the applicant.
[46:55] There was nobody who commented against
it. And there was one written comment
[46:59] submitted by an adjoining land owner
that they were in favor.
[47:06] » All right.
[47:10] » Russell, can I go first?
>> Sure.
[47:13] » I'm the land owner. Gordon Hunter,
>> can you come up here so that those
[47:17] online can hear you better?
>> Sure.
[47:20] » The mic will pick it up.
>> The mic will pick it up better.
[47:22] » It's up here in the ceiling.
>> It's in the ceiling.
[47:25] » Yeah. Right up here, Gloria.
Times to change.
[47:29] » You don't have to look at it. It'll it
is. And I have to apologize. My wife
[47:34] shares a lot of things with me and she
shared her comb with me.
[47:37] » Well, you just keep that part of me. I
was trying to stay.
[47:42] » I'm going to address the planning and
zoning commission's objections to the
[47:47] property being zoned C1 Highway
commercial. Uh
[47:53] I'm not sure how they come that
conclusion because this this piece of
[47:58] property is on Highway 52 South. Um
about a mile south of the intersection
[48:04] of 9 and 52.
And yet down at the intersection 9 and
[48:10] 52 is Windidge Implement, a car
dealership. And you go up and top the
[48:15] hill and there's this property.
And if you go down the road a little bit
[48:19] further, the DOT is down there. And
right beside the DOT is the county sold
[48:27] that property to March Loing and He
C1 Highway commercial. You get under a
[48:35] little bit further
and it's JD Holland
[48:40] and he's put up a shop down there and
it's on a piece of land twice as large
[48:46] as what I'm trying to sell Mr. Noach.
[48:54] The other concern that they had was the
traffic on Highway 52.
[48:59] Well,
I've lived in the Highway 53 years. I
[49:03] know there's traffic on that road. Uh
used to try to farm on that road because
[49:09] they don't traffic doesn't always really
care for me. But Mr. Nvac's
[49:16] business now is on Locust Road north of
town. And if you want to see traffic,
[49:22] you go up there
to Locust Road at the rush hour in the
[49:27] morning with the school kids and
everybody coming into town and the
[49:31] traffic's back up the swimming pool.
He's trying to move the business out
[49:37] onto a highway that can handle the
track.
[49:43] Uh
[49:47] in the zoning ordinance C1 highway
commercial, the very first paragraph,
[49:54] the second sentence says, "Commercial
uses would generally require substantial
[50:00] land area and access to a major traffic
artery.
[50:07] That's Highway 52 right from the get-go.
They can handle that up that track.
[50:14] And with the DOT right next to them,
if you get a half inch of snow, you get
[50:20] a half inch of salt about an hour later
because there'll be six trucks go by and
[50:26] they'll salt that road. They have a
clear road policy and they do that.
[50:34] Third issue was farmland.
farmland.
[50:39] I think they said that the average CSR
of farmland in Wy County is 58.5.
[50:47] This is the area at 61
or thereabouts
[50:53] and that's because of the C and D slope
sign. It's not it's not very level
[50:58] property. And but I'm not going to say
it's not good farmland because I farm it
[51:03] forever and I've raised a good crop on
it every year. But if you want prime
[51:08] farmland, you would have to go north of
this down in the valley down there where
[51:13] I got some Huntsville with a 2% slope
that has a CSR of 90.
[51:19] And so this is good farmland. It's not
pine farmland.
[51:25] Uh,
[51:28] one last thing I guess I saw in the
paper recently where the auditor had
[51:33] said something about the state
the state uh not allowing you to raise
[51:40] your property taxes only a certain
amount in the future.
[51:45] And I thought I had said something about
having uh having uh new construction
[51:53] pick up the balance of some of that
which you're not going to be able allow
[51:57] to do. And this is new construction
right from the get-go out in the county
[52:03] in the rural area
between several other commercial
[52:08] properties. And uh I would uh say that
it's a perfect spot for it.
[52:17] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[52:23] » I have a site plan to show you for what
our project is proposing. Have some
[52:28] notes to pass out. I'll give you a
little
[52:32] this is a synopsis. So what
I like to talk about this morning.
[52:45] » Thank you.
You
[52:48] » want me to stand or sit?
>> Either one. Just kind of face.
[52:53] » Sit.
>> Good morning supervisors. My name is
[52:58] Russell Novak. Own Perry Novak Electric
since acquiring from my father. Um, I'm
[53:04] asking to reszone a chunk of land, uh,
A1 to C1, uh, 17 acres on Highway 52.
[53:12] Um, I'd like to discuss,
um, the planning and zoning, uh,
[53:17] advisory recommendation of denial. Um,
that recommendation was based on several
[53:23] factual misunderstandings that I would
like to clear up with the board.
[53:28] First one regarding spot zoning. PNZ
stated that this parcel is one to two
[53:34] miles from the nearest commercial
district for their meeting minutes. The
[53:38] fact uh for our GPS and beacon we are
about 2/3 of a mile from the DOT office.
[53:46] Um, we are extending an established
logical commercial corridor along a
[53:52] federal funded state mandated highway,
not dropping an isolated island in the
[53:59] middle of a farmland.
Second was the regarding to highway
[54:04] safety and traffic. The Iowa Department
of Transportation has fully reviewed my
[54:09] application that they didn't have
completed at the time of PNC and has
[54:13] officially approved our commercial
entrance permit. The state traffic
[54:18] engineers verified that came to the site
um that our site lights and turning
[54:23] approaches are completely safe. They
can't issue me a certificate until the
[54:28] property is zoned commercial. So, they
can't issue a commercial application
[54:32] based on it being zoned egg.
Um
[54:37] uh furthermore and the big piece here is
the vast majority of our electrical work
[54:42] is south of Decora. Um as as said
previously um the amount of traffic that
[54:48] we put through Perryova or put through
Decor Iowa I project somewhere around
[54:53] 100 cars a day between our uh between
our technicians, our employees and our
[55:01] um deliveries. Most of our work is south
of town. The city has three corridors to
[55:06] get into the city of Dora um to where we
need to get to. Our deliveries can all
[55:11] happen south of town and where we need
to go. Um if we're going to Kelmer,
[55:16] Wakan, Dora, any place we're we're much
more centrally located.
[55:22] Um third regarding egg preservation and
that was one of the biggest pieces that
[55:26] PNZ discussed. Um Wishik land averages
59 CSR to my understanding. This
[55:33] includes bluffs, rock outcropping,
timber and pastures. Um, true tillable
[55:41] ground in our county I believe is closer
to 80. But what actually is being farmed
[55:46] a rating of 61 reflects moderate rolling
ground. In fact, that current landowner
[55:52] Gordon um will confirm he had to
construct dedicated conservation
[55:58] waterways BMS just to manage the runoff
from these property.
[56:03] Um PNZ discussed the 17 acres when
initially the building is going to take
[56:09] 8 to nine acres. Um that that open
acreage is not being wasted. Um our goal
[56:16] based on staying on budget is to install
a geothermal system to heat and cool our
[56:21] facility similar to our building north
of town. And we basically open trenched
[56:26] our geothermal. we uh covered it back up
and now we actually rent out the farm
[56:31] down north of town on Locust Grove. So
our goal for the um five to six acres
[56:36] which I would call to the to the left
side driving into this property, we'll
[56:41] be doing all of our geothermal work. So
we we'll uncover that. We'll install our
[56:45] geothermal loops. We'll lessen our
carbon footprint. Um, and then when we
[56:50] cover cover our geothermal back up,
there's a good chance that Bordon's
[56:55] going to be farming that ground again on
the on the left side of the property.
[56:59] Um, we will also be constructing a
retention pond to control our storm
[57:05] water. So, we'll be control we'll
putting a what they call a wet storm
[57:09] water pond um in the front of the
property. And a wet storm water pond is
[57:14] it's going to hold water and we'll
actually have a fountain and make it
[57:17] look nice. And that'll be built to um
absorb our storm storm water um and
[57:22] release at a slow pace to
[57:28] and one of the biggest pieces basically
to talk about is the uh impact of our
[57:32] project to win county.
Um the real dollars for Winnick County.
[57:37] Right now this parcel is bringing in
roughly $1,000 a year of property taxes.
[57:42] By the time we um outfit our facility,
we're going to spend in the neighborhood
[57:46] of $6 million in private capital
funding.
[57:51] Um even with the initial revitalization
abatement that we are asking for, this
[57:57] will transition into paying
approximately $70,000
[58:01] a year in commercial property taxes. a
70fold
[58:07] increase supporting our county services,
emergency response, and local schools.
[58:14] We will generate substantial local sales
tax right here on this $6 million
[58:20] project. So, of the 6 million, 4 million
will be material. Of that 4 million,
[58:26] we'll be spending 7% in sales tax
wherever we build the building,
[58:30] hopefully in Luna County.
Uh, our goal is also to add roughly 5 to
[58:35] 10 new skilled traded positions in the
range of 50 to $100,000 per year,
[58:42] keeping hardworking families living and
spending money in Winnick County.
[58:49] Most important, we believe in being a
good neighbor and investing where we
[58:53] live. Over the last two years, my father
and I have donated $85,000
[59:00] to our local hospital alongside regular
support for numerous community
[59:06] fundraisers, youth initiatives,
including our bowling alley, and local
[59:10] organizations across this area. We just
don't do business here, we live here. We
[59:16] give back. We care about the long-term
health of county.
[59:21] Finally, regarding the people who
actually live next door, county zoning
[59:25] mailed notices to all six adjoining land
owners. Not a single neighbor filed an
[59:30] objection. Sharon Vocodol, which is
directly touching this property, written
[59:36] approval to PNC and another adjacent
owner verbally confirmed their support.
[59:42] The people who share fences with this
property know how we run our operation
[59:47] and we want to see this project move
forward.
[59:50] We are a proven local business ready to
invest private capital, clean up
[59:57] downtown traffic, build high wage trade
career right here in the county. And I
[1:00:03] respectfully ask the board to approve C1
zoning. Thank you. And I'm glad to
[1:00:09] answer any questions.
[1:00:16] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:00:20] Anyone else with any questions or
comments?
[1:00:23] » Yes. Uh Tate Kurtz, uh the core township
president and local businessman here in
[1:00:27] town. Um I'm here to give you my my
support for the resoning. I hope the
[1:00:33] board of supervisors uses common sense
and trying to help this project move
[1:00:38] forward. Whereas a lot of other projects
that PNZ has shot down in the past. As
[1:00:43] you all know, as a community, if you are
not growing, you are dying. And
[1:00:46] unfortunately in this county there have
been a lot of projects that have not
[1:00:51] received support and a lot of business
has gone elsewhere and we are seeing the
[1:00:56] effects of that with declining
populations, enrollments in schools,
[1:01:00] funding and etc. So it'd be wise of you
guys to approve this project and many
[1:01:05] more that may become ahead of you guys.
Thank you.
[1:01:15] Indian business owner done business with
Perry Novak and Rust for 25 years and
[1:01:22] bought over 80 vehicles from us over the
years and known them personally. Um
[1:01:27] they're good operators. They do
excellent work. They are want to stay in
[1:01:32] the community. Um, I know they've been
offered different incentives from other
[1:01:35] counties and for a planning and zoning
board to tell them that they should
[1:01:41] possibly look at another county is just
upsetting.
[1:01:45] So, I'm in favor of it. Support it.
Hopefully, you guys are too.
[1:01:50] » Thank you.
[1:01:58] » Any comments? Anyone online with any
comments?
[1:02:09] You have questions? Anyone have any
questions for anybody?
[1:02:13] » Um, if they do the geothermal and then
row crop over that potentially in the
[1:02:18] long run, does that stay a then that
piece?
[1:02:22] » No, C1.
>> No. So, it would be if you resolve the
[1:02:26] property to C1, it stays C1.
>> Oh, 17.
[1:02:29] » Yeah. Would there be options to put that
in a the set aside program?
[1:02:36] » Uh that would not be
the answer to that.
[1:02:40] » I don't know.
>> All the things that are zoned underneath
[1:02:44] of C1 are applicable to the C1 lot. So,
so that's
[1:02:50] » so I'll use this listed on that city
when you
[1:02:58] » one clarification Russell the there is
some height there where the driveway
[1:03:03] goes between those two smaller
>> our goal is to knock that to flat but
[1:03:08] basically I have not done a locate to
see what utilities are on the
[1:03:15] on the rightway. So you're anticipating
then that by lowering those two hills
[1:03:22] there'll be still a line of sight for
recognizing
[1:03:24] » that's the goal and
>> so people will understand better what's
[1:03:27] there there'll be deceleration time
>> and we worked with Sharon basically of
[1:03:32] either at some point acquiring the three
acres to square this off or she's
[1:03:37] already said that I can clean up the
tree line to look nicer to see our
[1:03:42] property but if I could shave five feet
off the top of those nles
[1:03:47] um it'd be a win for everybody. But in
the same token, if there's a fiber optic
[1:03:51] that's 4 feet in the ground, those are
challenges that we'll have to overcome.
[1:03:56] » Yeah.
[1:03:59] » Think and talked about the hearing the
putting in a a detention basin.
[1:04:05] » Yep.
But I think hadn't done a total study on
[1:04:10] the amount of volume you're going to
have to have to accommodate all of the
[1:04:14] runoff from gravel and
>> buildings and stuff like that.
[1:04:18] » So potentially a second detention base
on the back side of that to accommodate
[1:04:23] what's wants to go down
>> if required.
[1:04:26] I just I mean my concern in that
perspective would be if you're dumping a
[1:04:31] lot of water off the backside that you
can't catch up front that probably needs
[1:04:34] to
>> you know and the big thing is the solid
[1:04:37] or the hard surfaces the lines and the
gravel compared to
[1:04:40] » permable ground that's there now. So, um
I did take into effect that uh um we
[1:04:46] probably are on the smaller side. Um
plenty of room there to either um use
[1:04:52] the correct angles to make that pond
larger or generate a second pond.
[1:04:57] » So, you're requesting to reszone 17
acres but only using eight or nine.
[1:05:02] Correct?
>> Well, basically my interpretation is
[1:05:06] everything for the property needed to be
zoned. So the everything we're doing
[1:05:11] including the geothermal which is for
our building my interpretation was that
[1:05:16] land needed to be zoned with the
building
[1:05:19] and truly that could be you know if our
business were to grow in time that that
[1:05:24] build that building's designed to be
added on on that side. So they call it
[1:05:28] they call it a blade
breakaway panel on the that side of the
[1:05:33] building.
Is that also your interpretation as some
[1:05:38] administrator?
>> The land is going to be used for
[1:05:40] commercial has to be z commercial.
>> All
[1:05:44] the land being used for commercial has
to be z
[1:05:48] part part of the issue with why it is
what it is. It's because of the contour
[1:05:52] and not being able to get in and plant
efficiently if there was odd pieces left
[1:05:58] out of
>> Yeah, that's part of it. Yes. Y and like
[1:06:01] I said, we need a better chunk of that
land on that side. We need a basically
[1:06:05] roughly a 100 ton of geothermal. We'll
have a 100 loops, but we're also from
[1:06:11] the carbon footprint wise if we use
geothermal. I mean, that's in my opinion
[1:06:16] huge environmental impact savings that
we're not running boilers and gas, you
[1:06:21] know, heating electricity for cooling
that uh will use, you know, as much
[1:06:26] geothermal as some backup gas.
>> Speaking of environmental, it's also
[1:06:32] light considerations.
smart
[1:06:35] just to have wall packs on a building.
>> So, our intent is not to have any light
[1:06:40] poles.
>> Basically, we'll have perimeter lighting
[1:06:42] around the building.
>> Um,
[1:06:44] » where does that project?
>> Just the parking lot
[1:06:48] » down.
>> Yes.
[1:06:49] » Straight down.
>> Straight down.
[1:06:50] » Yep. Our biggest thing is when we get to
middle of winter, um, our guys are going
[1:06:55] to start between 6:00 and 7 in the
morning and it's still pitch dark
[1:06:59] outside. So, we need to um have lighting
at least near the building.
[1:07:04] » You need that just for safety. I mean,
>> yeah, but the big thing is the intention
[1:07:08] is not to have any poles. Um it'll just
be perimeter lighting around the
[1:07:12] building
>> and really the side that's,
[1:07:16] » you know, the front of the building I
call it. That's not the showroom. You we
[1:07:19] won't put any lighting.
Um there's, you know, past projects that
[1:07:23] said the same and now they're real
bright and and pretty intrusive lighting
[1:07:28] for our valley.
>> That's not my intent.
[1:07:32] » So I think a good example of good
lighting is the Locust Road project we
[1:07:36] did where
>> we're straight down
[1:07:38] » straight down and all those fixtures cut
off. So they're 100% cut off. So it's
[1:07:43] not if you look at what I call a
traditional wall pack on the building,
[1:07:46] it shoots light out. Do you see a
reflector on the front? The lights will
[1:07:50] shoot light all down.
So,
[1:07:53] » Russell, on the geothermal loops, will
that occupy maybe a portion of that 8
[1:07:58] acres that still will be farmed?
>> Yes. Yep.
[1:08:01] » And
>> and we'll push it basically up as close
[1:08:03] to the property line as possible. You
know, if we ever need to add onto our
[1:08:08] building, we can't have the geothermal
under our building.
[1:08:11] » So, in other words, you can't have you
can't build over the top of your
[1:08:14] geothermal lines. And uh would that even
allow for gravel parking above it or
[1:08:19] would that be a compaction problem for
the geoc?
[1:08:21] » No, it would not be ideal. Um the big
thing is the compaction and uh if the
[1:08:27] ground's hard, it's going to transfer
more heat. So that frost would actually
[1:08:31] penetrate down quicker on compacted
ground than it would not. So in this
[1:08:36] case really that land is going to be
preserved and will be needed as an
[1:08:40] agricultural resource per se to preserve
the integrity of your geothermal.
[1:08:46] » Yep. But it's all in use for this
building. So that's my interpretation
[1:08:51] that anything used for this building has
to be considered
[1:08:56] the C1C
because the loops basically just round
[1:09:00] numbers and I don't have it 100%
designed. The loops are 100 ft long. I
[1:09:04] take a three-foot trench. They're 10
feet apart and I need a hundred of
[1:09:09] those.
So, it's gonna be a lot of work running
[1:09:14] basically and then we'll farm over the
top of it. But those loops will be the
[1:09:18] integral part to our building and really
a large I mean we're it's substantially
[1:09:23] more expensive than just putting gas in
and putting a big LP tank in. But it's
[1:09:29] worked out well north of town that
basically we have we have a 30,000 foot
[1:09:34] warehouse north of town that we burn
we're geothermal and we burn probably
[1:09:38] 700 gallons of fuel instead of 15,000
gallons of fuel. So the geothermal has
[1:09:44] worked well in other applications.
>> The other thing you talked about would
[1:09:49] be green screening like trees and
vegetation
[1:09:53] » the whole front isn't exposed so to
speak. you know, been. So, we're going
[1:09:57] to want some low grip vegetation. We can
we can plant taller stuff on the
[1:10:01] sidelines for
I'm definitely willing to listen to what
[1:10:07] recommendations are, but we want people
to see our building from the you don't
[1:10:10] want to block the view of your building
so you can't see
[1:10:14] trees.
>> No, but both property lines on the
[1:10:17] sides, no problem. Or no problem.
>> Screening of the storage unit section.
[1:10:24] Um, I mean that's part of marketing is
to be able to see that from the road.
[1:10:29] » So we're coming up on a bluff entering
Dora and people will see a big storage
[1:10:33] facility on the right
>> and our commercial building. I I guess I
[1:10:37] don't
you know they come from the north and
[1:10:40] they see a wind tower sitting on top of
the hill. It don't work anymore. So
[1:10:44] what's the argument? I mean
>> I mean I don't disagree. I mean we're
[1:10:47] Yeah. So the cheapest storage building I
could buy
[1:10:50] » Yeah.
>> is a galvanized building. So you see a
[1:10:53] ugly galvanized roof. I don't do that.
So if you see the building I just built
[1:10:57] in Kelmer, we use a colored roof. We use
colored walls. We use two-tone corners
[1:11:03] to make it as appealing as I can. Um,
I guess I'm not saying I can't put a row
[1:11:12] of trees to block the view, but that's
also hurting the
[1:11:16] » my marketing side of people that see the
building that says, "Hey, I need space
[1:11:21] to rent." I'm willing to, you know,
work. I'm just asking. I'm just trying
[1:11:25] to come up with the best.
>> We've worked with two other business may
[1:11:30] or I did, and drive by their play. I
mean, you guys aren't any different.
[1:11:34] You're gonna make it look as nice coming
from the west by Volmer or south by
[1:11:39] Holland. I mean, it's a nice looking
place and it's you're just
[1:11:44] » equivalent to what they I mean it's a
challenge for each line of business. I
[1:11:47] mean,
>> what Holland did looks amazing.
[1:11:50] » If I look in the back, I see a huge
rock.
[1:11:52] » Yeah.
>> If I drive by Bulmer's, great assets to
[1:11:55] our community. I see rows and rows of
equipment and stuff sitting outside. If
[1:12:00] you drive by our facility, we have a
building and 90% of opposition and the
[1:12:06] other 10% is behind the building you
can't see.
[1:12:10] But
>> we really try, you know, when dad did
[1:12:13] his building north of town, all the
garage doors are on the back side. You
[1:12:16] don't really see um many garage doors on
that side and planted trees.
[1:12:23] I'm open to
um doing the best I can.
[1:12:28] » Yeah. And that storage facility is all
fenced in and gated.
[1:12:32] » Yeah. Yep. So, traditionally, I would
say I'm not aware of many that are
[1:12:36] fenced and gated in Winnipe County. Um,
so that's definitely
[1:12:42] um a value. I mean, there's a lot of
storage available around the area.
[1:12:47] That's the traditional
facility, but we're adding the RV
[1:12:52] storage, which predominantly you're
going to take vehicles and sit down in
[1:12:56] front of people's houses and putting
them in a facility where,
[1:13:00] » like I said, what I built in Kelmer, I
think turned out really nice. And uh we
[1:13:04] just got done with one in Charles City,
you know, where basically they can park
[1:13:09] their campers inside with power
um and lighting, which uh there isn't a
[1:13:14] lot of those type of facilities out
there currently. But the trend in the
[1:13:18] storage industry is for the appearance
being a major positive for the facility.
[1:13:24] You've you could look at a lot of these
places that have especially conditioned
[1:13:28] storage. They're not the low-end uh like
you say the galvanized roof. Uh we want
[1:13:34] to make it look nice and that's where um
even in this facility I could probably
[1:13:39] save4
$50,000 to put a galvanized roof on and
[1:13:44] it's not eye appealing whatsoever. And
I'm not doing that. I've never done that
[1:13:48] at any of the facilities ever. So, I I
do want to make it look nice. And if we
[1:13:53] look at, you know, I've built this type
of um uh RV style storage in Charles
[1:13:58] City a year ago and we're just finishing
one in Kelmer. We're trying to blend it
[1:14:04] in as much as we possibly can and we're
also taking care of the storm water to
[1:14:08] the best of our ability.
So, you know, my concern on previous
[1:14:13] projects and this one is
coming into Decora is it's a beautiful
[1:14:19] county. It's a beautiful entrance into
our valley and I'm my hesitancy is
[1:14:25] preserving that vista,
but I'm also in favor of economic
[1:14:30] growth. And I'm looking back at previous
decisions by the planning and zoning
[1:14:34] commission, and I wish they were here
today so I could ask them questions.
[1:14:38] They're not here today, but I I might be
able to direct it to Tony. I know you
[1:14:41] can't speak for them, but they approved
the Voltmer Electric facility
[1:14:46] unanimously and they approved the
Holland facility 4 to3. Um, similar
[1:14:52] situations. So, I'm really having some
trouble with consistency here. Do you
[1:14:57] want to speak to it at all?
>> I'm afraid I can.
[1:15:01] I went back and looked at the meeting
minutes and don't I think Wolver went
[1:15:07] through twice basically I think he got
comments from PNC and then kind of
[1:15:13] corrected that and went back don't over
that but I reached out after the PNC
[1:15:17] meeting I felt
it was a rough meeting like there were
[1:15:22] they knew how they were going to vote
before they started before I even talked
[1:15:25] to be honest with you and uh I talked to
I tried talking to DJ Priest after the
[1:15:30] meeting the next day um he said I can't
legally talk to you they gave me no
[1:15:35] comments at the meeting to say hey if
you can tweak this or do this it was
[1:15:39] just basically no 60 done
>> and if you see hesitation in me
[1:15:45] » no I want to answer your question
>> finish what I was going to say in in a
[1:15:49] previous project you know we're going to
plant trees and we're going to do this
[1:15:52] we're going to do that
wasn't done so I don't know where the
[1:15:56] followup on that is or what we do as a
community to make sure that people
[1:16:00] follow through on what they say they're
going to do. So, I'm holding I'm going
[1:16:04] to, you know, you've said all this in a
public hearing. It'll be part of the
[1:16:06] notes.
>> Um,
[1:16:09] » the consistency is a hard one for me on
this one.
[1:16:11] » I can show you that dad's project on
locust 10 years ago, there were notes
[1:16:16] brought up in this meeting and you can
go out to that property and see that
[1:16:19] they were all done.
>> Trees are planted. Whatever was asked in
[1:16:22] that meeting was done.
So, I I can commit to what we talk
[1:16:27] about. And honestly, you guys want to
come out, more power to you to come out.
[1:16:32] We're making this project for the next
generation. For my son that's with us to
[1:16:39] the 100 employees that work under our
brand. This isn't a oneanddone project
[1:16:44] for us. We we got into storage
facilities a few years ago um of using
[1:16:50] extra space and it's it's put two people
to busy all summer mowing. It's put a
[1:16:56] handyman together fixing stuff. It's
put, you know, we got two gals in the
[1:17:00] office that got full-time jobs because
of what we're building. So,
[1:17:06] trying to come up with this happy medium
that we can build something that looks
[1:17:09] appropriate to the facility um and uh
put people to work
[1:17:14] » and it's a conversation for the wider
community that we can't have here
[1:17:17] unfortunately. Lind do we want Highway
52 to become storage facilities as we
[1:17:22] lead into town? There's another storage
facility representative who spoke in
[1:17:26] favor of you today. What does this open
it up for future? What do we want to
[1:17:30] look like as a community in the future?
And that's where my concern for
[1:17:33] lighting, um, trees, retention ponds,
the protection of the environment, the
[1:17:38] vistas, the all of that. So, and then
when I go back and look at the PNZ notes
[1:17:44] for approval for both Boltmer and
Holland facilities, Highway 9 and
[1:17:48] Highway 52, respectively. Um, I'm having
some trouble with that inconsistency on
[1:17:53] this one. I'm not fully understanding
why, and I wish they were here to answer
[1:17:57] that question, but they're not
>> and I can't talk to them before this
[1:18:02] meeting. That would be exparte
communication, just as I couldn't talk
[1:18:04] to any of you before this meeting. So,
I'm asking the questions here in the
[1:18:09] public hearing.
>> And I don't know, I don't see any
[1:18:12] retention ponds, but I haven't
physically drove on private property to
[1:18:15] see them, but one of our features on the
front of our building is to make a
[1:18:19] pretty high appealing retention pond
with some really nice river rock. Um,
[1:18:24] and they call it a a wet pond where
basically we'll keep about four feet of
[1:18:28] water in the bottom of the pond. We want
to put a fountain in there that looks
[1:18:32] really nice. So, you know, I'm sure
you've seen the bowling alley we've done
[1:18:36] in several projects. I want this to look
as nice as it possibly can. Our
[1:18:40] fireplace showroom, I think, turned out
awesome with the fireplaces on display.
[1:18:44] So, we're working with a local
contractor to have a nice overhang on
[1:18:48] the front of the commercial building.
We'll have fireplaces and our furniture,
[1:18:51] Amish furniture that we sell outside um
with pavers and uh um you know, we want
[1:18:57] consumers to feel welcome to come to our
facility. We don't want it to look like
[1:19:00] an industrial facility that nobody wants
to walk out the front door either.
[1:19:07] » I think that the Novaks have have
demonstrated over over the years quality
[1:19:12] of the projects that they build
would fit what I'm hearing Russell say
[1:19:17] today. Uh,
no, no offense, Matt, but I would
[1:19:22] challenge between the current storage
units and the uh the Novak storage units
[1:19:29] a competition that would be which one is
going to have a better looking building
[1:19:34] as you go towards the future because I
don't know if Mr. Kurt will stop
[1:19:37] building storage either, but I'd like to
see a little competition between the two
[1:19:42] of them. Uh, the last thing that I want
to see is I'd like to see us revisit as
[1:19:48] a board our general plan because I think
the overall focus with so much that is
[1:19:54] just
cut and dry the appearance of it's corn,
[1:20:00] you can't get rid of it. I don't want to
comprehensive plan.
[1:20:03] » Yeah, the comprehensive plan. I think
that the last thing this county needs is
[1:20:09] to hang a shingle out there that says
close for business.
[1:20:12] » I I also want to reiterate the fact that
when you do a redo of the con when you
[1:20:17] review the comprehensive plan that took
that was years in the making and it
[1:20:22] includes a lot of community input. So if
we look into that just for the
[1:20:26] conversation that also has to be a huge
community input again not to be
[1:20:31] discussed today and decided today but
it's a huge community input piece back
[1:20:38] Tony I have a question for you spot
zoning just so you can kind of educate
[1:20:42] the room and the public
BNC that was one of their reasons for
[1:20:47] denial was spot zoning but we do have
the DOT garage the Mirage Shack uh now
[1:20:54] business on the same area and the JB
Holland on the same highway.
[1:21:00] Tell me why this would be spot zoning.
>> So the definition of spot zoning is
[1:21:05] excuse me an island of land that is
zoned differently from the surrounding
[1:21:10] area but it is an incompatible use.
Okay. So to be spot zoning it has to be
[1:21:17] different from the surrounding area. It
has to be incompatible with the
[1:21:20] surrounding area. What's what's the
definition of surrounding area? Adjacent
[1:21:25] or within a few miles? What's what's the
definition here?
[1:21:28] » That's for judges to decide, right?
>> It's pretty big.
[1:21:33] » So, it's, you know, at this level, it's
for you to decide. Okay. So, to be spot
[1:21:39] zoning, it has to be a different zoning,
which it is, right? It has to be
[1:21:45] incompatible with the surrounding uses.
That's a decision for you to make with
[1:21:50] that competitive with certain needs.
>> So I would suppose then that Hollands
[1:21:54] was spot zoning. Uh
would be spot zoning kind of I guess. I
[1:22:00] don't think it's through the do roller
would have been spot zoning. The NFL
[1:22:04] buying station would spot zoning.
>> All those could have an argument made
[1:22:10] that they were spot zoning. But um the
second one uh you kind of threw a couple
[1:22:17] examples in there that don't really work
so well.
[1:22:19] » Right.
>> So right across the road from Bmer's was
[1:22:23] uh an industrial zone property. So is
the second one
[1:22:28] spot zoned? No,
>> possibly not.
[1:22:33] » What property across from Bolton
supposed? Uh actually it was Russell
[1:22:37] Novak had a property across there that
was owned that was owned uh I believe in
[1:22:43] one can't really remember like four
years ago probably about four or five
[1:22:49] four
>> so yes uh you know to answer your
[1:22:52] question arguments can be made
it's up to you to uh decide which side
[1:22:59] of it you take
>> is wind in the city or is that in the
[1:23:03] county guest county.
[1:23:07] » Did you recommend to the NO box that you
thought this would fit into C1 as the
[1:23:13] best?
>> Uh did I recommend to them? I don't they
[1:23:18] came to me with their proposal and I
look at the book and says, "Yep, C1 is
[1:23:24] the one that fits." Well, just me
looking at it, you know, like was
[1:23:27] mentioned prior with that top paragraph
where, you know, it basically says C1
[1:23:33] Highway commercial district is intended
to accommodate uses which ordinarily
[1:23:37] serve the traveling public and
commercial uses
[1:23:41] which generally require substantial land
area and access to a major traffic
[1:23:47] artery. So it's encouraging in a long
one of our major core
[1:23:58] » which that goes back to our
comprehensive plan also for our
[1:24:01] comprehensive plan list that we want
development along our major corridors
[1:24:06] and I believe they actually spell out
952 and
[1:24:10] » 24 yeah
[1:24:16] » so then here we
They said you can't do that then. Well,
[1:24:20] it's in our comp that you're that's
where they recommend doing it. So, it's
[1:24:24] they're none there.
>> Well, do we have any more questions?
[1:24:29] » No. For anybody else?
>> Mark, what were you trying to say? Just
[1:24:33] do you want to finish what you're
saying?
[1:24:35] » Well, they're saying they the
comprehensive plan says to build on 952
[1:24:40] or 24 and there they're saying they
can't because it's unsafe. Well, DOT's
[1:24:46] the city does their study and said it's
safe. And my thing is I agree with like
[1:24:51] Gordon said, they they got how many less
trucks coming through town. You want to
[1:24:55] talk about safety, kids going to school,
just upkeep in the streets, uh just it's
[1:25:02] just it's just a no-brainer. Takes all
that traffic out of town for safet. It's
[1:25:07] a big safety plus for the town. You know
>> what will happen to your facility on
[1:25:13] Locust? Uh we have somebody actually two
different people interested on our
[1:25:17] warehouse north of town and I got a
phone call last week of someone that's
[1:25:21] interested in our fireplace showroom. Uh
dad has a lifetime lease at our main
[1:25:27] office. So we'll probably meet that at
this point so he has a place to live
[1:25:33] and to a point to bring up there their
business is coming in if they're in
[1:25:36] sales or something. There's still going
to be sales tax the property tax is
[1:25:40] still going to have to be paid on them
buildings. I mean, we're it's a it's
[1:25:44] just a win-winwin. Everything you look
at is a win. There ain't no We ain't
[1:25:48] losing property tax. You ain't tearing
them buildings down. Ain't going on at
[1:25:52] it. Somebody's going to be in them and
using them.
[1:25:54] » One one big thing, you know, when you
ask about, you know, Pleasant, making
[1:25:57] stuff look nice. We we built this
beautiful bowling alley renovation here
[1:26:03] five years ago now. And I didn't have to
make the outside look any different. You
[1:26:09] know, if you look at the facade at the
front of the bowling alley, we spent an
[1:26:11] extra quarter million dollars to make
that a little sexy and uh we didn't have
[1:26:17] to do that. So, you know, I hope you can
take my word that what we decide or talk
[1:26:23] about and want to see um we will follow
through just like dad did 10 years ago
[1:26:28] and I've done on projects that we've
done. Um if there's ever a
[1:26:32] misunderstanding, you got my number.
>> Is that the project north up there on
[1:26:37] Locust Road? That was a little rocky
there for a little bit, but got things
[1:26:41] taken care of and
>> and we planted the trees that were
[1:26:44] asking us. We, you know, done whatever
we were asked for through that process
[1:26:48] of under the bridge today.
>> It is.
[1:26:52] » So, what are we asking for today
[1:26:56] as far as what does the site look like?
because in past conversations there's
[1:27:03] not been follow through on what we'd
kind of like to see versus what was
[1:27:08] actually constructed.
>> I don't know how to answer.
[1:27:11] » I'm not asking you asking my mic's up
here.
[1:27:14] » So I I will chime in on that one and I
would like to come back to conference
[1:27:18] and plan also if somebody reminds me a
bit. Um so when an applicant submits a
[1:27:23] site plan that is exactly what it is.
It's a plan that is a non-binding
[1:27:27] document. All right. Now if there are
certain things I code allows a
[1:27:33] conditional reasoning. All right. On a
conditional reasoning
[1:27:37] the supervisors can put on uh
requirements that will specifically
[1:27:44] alleviate a problem. Right now how do
those get done? I am in charge of
[1:27:50] keeping sure those go well. If they
don't go well we file things with the
[1:27:55] district court. Whatever we have to do.
We've just seen where that comes back to
[1:27:59] the board of supervisors and they change
it. All right. So to answer your
[1:28:05] question is site plan is non-binding. If
you want binding things, it has to be
[1:28:10] done as a conditional zoning.
>> All right.
[1:28:13] » In this meeting or pre or
>> in this meeting conditional zoning has
[1:28:17] to be agreed to by the applicant in
writing before the adjourment of the
[1:28:21] public hearing. So one of those
conditional uses would be the
[1:28:25] requirement of that retention pond.
>> That could be if you can say that a
[1:28:32] retention pond is required to alleviate
a problem that that construction is
[1:28:36] causing
[1:28:40] um while we're thinking about that the
comprehensive plan. So the comprehensive
[1:28:44] plan says this is kind of in reply to
what you were saying Mark the
[1:28:48] comprehensive plan has a lot of goals.
Okay. So, some of the goals are we want
[1:28:55] development along major highways, right?
Some of the goals are we want to
[1:29:00] preserve farmland. It is the board of
supervisors responsibility to prioritize
[1:29:06] those goals for an individual request
or individual location request. Right?
[1:29:14] So, it is I I didn't like the way it
sounded where one is all going with this
[1:29:20] and one is all going with that. These
are both goals we have, but it is the
[1:29:26] board of supervisors responsibility to
prioritize which goals are more
[1:29:31] important for a specific development.
[1:29:39] One more comment that I would like to
make is if they would leave the county,
[1:29:43] what you guys are going to lose
>> and do you understand that and the
[1:29:48] comprehensive pack package of that whole
thing? Because you're not just going to
[1:29:51] lose the business, you're going to lose
taxes, you're going to lose employees,
[1:29:54] you're going to lose families, and
they're going to move.
[1:30:00] Tony, don't isn't it a responsibility of
a landowner to contain property water
[1:30:04] from running onto their neighbors unless
it's a established drainage
[1:30:10] requirement,
>> but I do believe uh with the I'm going
[1:30:15] to say NRCS there is uh there's
requirements on that. I'm I'm not
[1:30:21] positive. Yeah, but that falls with that
entity
[1:30:25] » parameter up there. You that's
>> that's not we don't regulate that.
[1:30:33] » And I don't I personally don't think
that a row of trees along 52 is an
[1:30:37] advantage. In fact, I think that's a
real detraction to the business. And if
[1:30:41] they're putting up track record would
show that they put up a a good looking
[1:30:46] building in general. He's really going
to push Tate Kurt to the limits. I
[1:30:51] think. Not going to see. Hope I can get
a
[1:30:59] » Well, right now you you were looking at
a fence, a chain link fence along your
[1:31:03] storage units.
>> Yes. Yep. So, this will be one of the
[1:31:06] only one I'm aware of in Russia County
that's actually
[1:31:11] been coded to get in. That sound
appropriate to
[1:31:14] » Yes.
>> coded like a black viol.
[1:31:19] » I That's the same. I mean, as we talk
about things, my cheapest route,
[1:31:23] galvanized fence that looks like a jail.
That's not what we do. You can see
[1:31:26] around every solar project we've done,
it's a PVC coated bench. The cost is
[1:31:30] double, but it looks very attractive to
the customer going by. I mean, we want
[1:31:36] both. We want the consumer to come in
that feels comfortable coming to our
[1:31:39] facility. Um, but there's a substantial
cost. I mean, when I put this fence in,
[1:31:46] uh, PVC coated, you know, gated access,
my cost is going to be higher than TA's
[1:31:52] facility that doesn't have it. So,
you're going to have different customer
[1:31:55] clientele when we put a security system
in and have cameras at our site compared
[1:32:00] to a facility that doesn't have cameras.
We're at two different price points uh
[1:32:05] of pleasing two different customers. You
know, if you come to our facility, it's
[1:32:09] gated, fenced, cameras, security
lighting. um
[1:32:12] » free coffee
>> probably not coffee but uh but if you
[1:32:17] come up to our shop there probably would
be but
[1:32:20] you could see a 15 or 20% price
difference between the customer that
[1:32:23] comes and rents and that consumer needs
to decide you know can I afford and what
[1:32:28] am I looking for so we're going to
provide two different there's there's
[1:32:33] services for everybody there's
>> and you did that you did your homework
[1:32:36] on that you know what's out there have
them otherwise
[1:32:39] » and that's the same thing we have
facilities in the same town offer
[1:32:43] different amenities. The new facility we
just did in Charles City that has
[1:32:47] cameras, lighting, um we charge a
different price point than one that
[1:32:52] doesn't have those amenities. This would
be our first facility with a fence uh
[1:32:57] gated access. And how the site plan
typically most properties don't have
[1:33:03] enough real estate to drive off the
public road to get to a um a gate to
[1:33:09] type a combination in with a a a 40ft
campus. We're able to pair that driveway
[1:33:16] sauce with this project of entering
Perry Electric and entering the um
[1:33:21] storage facility.
Um,
[1:33:25] so people are coming in and off the
highway. Our driveway is roughly 200
[1:33:29] feet long to share that access to come
in and off the highway.
[1:33:35] » What
>> I miss might have missed this in the
[1:33:38] conversation today, but who did you work
with or have you worked with anybody for
[1:33:42] the the study for any new runoff created
by the hard surfaces and
[1:33:49] » all?
you calculate it all in your
[1:33:52] » basically I've used the internet to
determine the uh the size of the
[1:33:57] basically solid surface areas and they
base it off the 100 year flood you got
[1:34:01] to store it I have it all written down
at home with the calculation but um you
[1:34:05] got to store it for a period of time um
you need to have so much volume uh your
[1:34:10] retention pond has to be a certain slope
um
[1:34:13] » what is the volume runoff created by
this
[1:34:20] Well, in previous projects, there were
studies done. Some That's why mask
[1:34:25] » and I don't blame you. That's if if you
were to put that in there, require me to
[1:34:28] hire an engineer, that would be a
burden.
[1:34:31] » I would spend probably around $80,000 to
give you a stamp drawing that says what
[1:34:37] the runoff needs to be.
[1:34:43] Um
I'm a bit fixated on the runoff part of
[1:34:47] the detention basins and tent for moment
because I struggle with a neighbor
[1:34:53] and the city has that problem and you
put a detention basin in and it's silts
[1:34:58] in over time but there's no requirement
to maintain the calculated depth of that
[1:35:05] so it really becomes ineffective.
>> One thing is we want all the equipment
[1:35:09] to do it all. We'll be doing all our own
site work here. We'll be doing our own,
[1:35:13] you know, I own Artsmith Electric. We'll
be doing our own geothermal system with
[1:35:16] our own staff. Um, we'll be doing our
own excavation,
[1:35:20] applying our rock compaction, and then
subbing out the concrete in the building
[1:35:24] portion. Um, uh, I know the previous
owner basically has already spent a
[1:35:31] substantial amount of money on retention
water there along with the access
[1:35:37] underneath the highway and pieces
already. They're only going to be a huge
[1:35:41] benefit for me as we collect that
100-year flood rain and then slowly
[1:35:45] discharge it. So I know the city
implemented plan
[1:35:49] obviously that that has to be examined
and maintain
[1:35:53] » I can think of three projects in decor
lost because basically what their
[1:35:56] requirements are for storm water
>> but I think you're putting the storm
[1:36:02] water in the front of your main office
and showroom and I think in your own
[1:36:09] interest you did that on purpose putting
it in the front and intend to use it as
[1:36:13] a feature rather than a liability. It's
100% a feature. So, realistically, I'd
[1:36:18] like it to be larger than needed, you
know, to have a pond out. Um, and we
[1:36:23] want to put a color changing uh some
lights in the water to have a fountain.
[1:36:27] Um, honestly, it's going to be one of
our focal points. And just like, you
[1:36:31] know, the the colors and stuff I use in
front of the bowling alley of the wood
[1:36:36] grain textured look to make it look
vibrant. That's I'm going to use this
[1:36:41] pond to do the same thing with. you
know, we want this pond even to the
[1:36:45] point potentially we might put a bridge
across the pond as more of a a
[1:36:49] decorative piece.
>> So, you have no study saying you need
[1:36:53] that retention pond?
>> Uh, just my own logic knowing that we're
[1:36:58] taking permable farm ground and turning
into a solid surface
[1:37:02] » with the various colored light feature.
>> It would
[1:37:08] I mean I I'd like it to look nice kind
of like courthouse does here.
[1:37:12] » Yeah.
We have color changing lights on the
[1:37:14] courthouse to make it look nice
>> for specific holidays. Otherwise,
[1:37:19] » okay, that's a different subject. We
have we learned everything we need here
[1:37:23] in the public hearing.
>> Move to close the public hearing.
[1:37:27] » Second everybody.
[1:37:31] » I asked already
have a motion and a second to close the
[1:37:35] public hearing. Who's the second
>> that mark that?
[1:37:42] » All those in favor say I.
>> I
[1:37:45] suppos
[1:37:59] I think I've already stated on some of
it.
[1:38:03] The CSR is a we have to accept that
fact. Um there's only so much land for
[1:38:10] sale along a major road. It's hard to
find it.
[1:38:15] Uh I think you have to take advantage of
what's offered.
[1:38:20] So
the CSR I do not have a problem with.
[1:38:26] And it said number three was using CSR
ground for storage units. in C1 number
[1:38:34] 20 rental storage facilities are listed
in C1. So it is a fit for the C1
[1:38:41] number of acres requested for the
zoning. go back to the top which
[1:38:46] generally requires substantial land area
that is out of point and the public
[1:38:53] safety due to heavy traffic on Highway
52 potential driveway permit is going to
[1:39:01] be allowed. The DOT looks at that and
that also states that C1 should be on
[1:39:06] the major traffic.
So,
[1:39:10] the only one that possibly goes in there
is spot zoning and with the relationship
[1:39:18] um distance to the other facilities that
we listed. I don't believe spot zone.
[1:39:24] Those are my views.
>> No, I'm with you there with you.
[1:39:27] » I would say the the county seems to want
to grow that direction already. So, it's
[1:39:33] not like we're
>> it's creating a new precedent in that
[1:39:37] respect.
And I think that's average farmland.
[1:39:42] » I mean,
>> it's a good it's a good economic
[1:39:44] contribution to
>> and we got to go you got to go up to the
[1:39:48] top of the hill if you're going to
develop now because the core is full. I
[1:39:52] » mean, you got and there's only four ways
to go and
[1:39:57] and
>> that's where we're at and it's gonna
[1:39:59] just keep growing. That's yeah,
>> there's not too many sites along there
[1:40:03] that have the proper line of sight for a
good driveway access and you're not
[1:40:08] going to be able to
>> I don't think you're going to
[1:40:10] accommodate many other sites because of
curves and so forth that come down the
[1:40:16] way. So, I think it's a good I think
it's a good site for it. Um,
[1:40:23] I I don't see a problem.
>> Going back to one of your comments,
[1:40:26] Steve, where you said
um about the close to business sign. I
[1:40:33] think that's a sign that we need to take
down here county.
[1:40:36] » Yeah. Don't want to see that because we
we're graduating our intellectual
[1:40:40] capital from all of our schools. And
what do we expect for them to do in the
[1:40:44] future? Are they going to take and leave
the community and go elsewhere or are we
[1:40:48] going to take and make an effort to take
and build business, promote business
[1:40:52] that is good business following? Uh I
think this is a good opportunity.
[1:40:58] » And you talk about schools 51 51 some
percent of that tax dollar is theirs
[1:41:06] and it probably go up a couple percent
but they're the they're the biggest
[1:41:10] gainer out of this here. Yeah. you know,
the school system is any business that's
[1:41:15] I mean, it's come on, it's just a
norainer.
[1:41:18] » But going back to something Shirley said
also is that it was a unanimous decision
[1:41:23] amongst the PNZ and that quite honestly
just baffles me.
[1:41:27] » Me too.
>> Because the more I've read through this
[1:41:30] and read through it, I'm like, I just
don't see where they were coming from.
[1:41:34] And if we had one person sitting on P&Z
tells them delete town,
[1:41:41] that's really disturbing. I mean, you're
somebody on PNZ tells you to go to a
[1:41:46] different town. That's just that's just
downright that's not even
[1:41:50] » but they were they were referring to
another town within
[1:41:52] » within W.
>> Not within Wish County. if that town was
[1:41:57] not within county.
>> No, the one was
[1:42:00] » was space available in there was but
obviously they also have operations in
[1:42:06] other surrounding counties that they can
donate to. So that was just a bit I just
[1:42:12] » and I and I really always support try to
support what DNC does. They do good
[1:42:17] work.
>> I was previously on port on PNC. Uh Dan
[1:42:21] was previously on PNZ and I'm bewildered
as to why this would be a seven.
[1:42:30] » You have any comments, Shirley?
I have a lot of comments, but um
[1:42:39] uh were there conversations leading up
to this from board members with anybody?
[1:42:50] I I might made up any phone calls.
>> Yeah, I got a phone call and I answered
[1:42:56] questions. That's my responsibility
>> from
[1:43:01] » the residents
>> from the from Perry Perry Novak. I'm
[1:43:05] Perry Russell.
>> Well,
[1:43:09] I'd like
>> So, you communicated with Russell Novak
[1:43:11] before today's hearing on it?
>> Did I communicate with him? I answered
[1:43:15] questions from as a supervisor. are
>> what questions were asked. Can you share
[1:43:19] in the public hearing
>> about things that he
[1:43:23] » so we can all know
>> only things that he revealed here today
[1:43:27] the approval of the DOT
>> and the location I I I clarified where
[1:43:35] that driveway was for sure. Uh looking
at the corn as we drive by trying to
[1:43:40] determine which one it was. I'm glad
that that is in that particular location
[1:43:44] because I think the traffic issue is
then solved.
[1:43:48] I don't see I see no problem with
answering his questions.
[1:43:54] » Mark, did you have any
>> I said public just wanted to know why
[1:43:58] PNZ turn
>> no any conversations with um Hunter or
[1:44:03] No
[1:44:06] » I just talked to the public.
>> No conversations with the parties. I
[1:44:10] just said I just talked to the public.
>> Are you considering Novak Electric the
[1:44:15] public statement?
>> I'm just saying surely I talked to the
[1:44:18] public.
>> I answered the public.
[1:44:20] » I did talk to Russell. He called me. I
answered my phone when the phone rings.
[1:44:26] We had a very brief talk and uh asked me
if I knew anything about the PNZ and all
[1:44:35] that and I said just what I read.
I had a call from John Nielson, but I
[1:44:41] said I and I had been at that meeting
and said I really couldn't comment on it
[1:44:47] because it's basically opening something
with us. But he declined enough offer to
[1:44:53] look at, you know, plans because I had
seen him. So did you
[1:44:59] » I got a call from John and I said I
could not discuss because that would be
[1:45:03] considered expartite.
>> You answered your phone.
[1:45:05] » I didn't discuss anything.
I said I can't talk about it. Is that
[1:45:10] correct, Chuck?
>> All right. So, I think we just need to
[1:45:13] get back to what we're
>> I'm not finished with my comments. So,
[1:45:17] another question I have and I get back
to the consistency issue and I wish the
[1:45:21] PNC commission were here to represent
themselves when they they allow two
[1:45:26] others in similar situation.
Um, but not on this one. I am perplexed
[1:45:32] by that as a board member. But for
consistency sake, I was also the lone no
[1:45:38] vote on the other two that I brought up
here because the ordinance also talks
[1:45:43] about the beauty of the county and
protecting that beauty. And this is just
[1:45:48] my own opinion and feeling, but a
colored fountain up on the vista of
[1:45:52] Highway 9 coming in or highway 52 coming
into Decora.
[1:45:58] I don't know what what are we about as a
county and what do we want to look like?
[1:46:01] That's just a personal opinion. beauties
in the eyes they behold her. Of course.
[1:46:06] Um, so I'm I'm really torn on this.
>> So we got colored lights on a bridge
[1:46:12] leading decor. What What's any different
from that?
[1:46:14] » I'm just really torn on this boat
[1:46:19] and those are for holidays
>> on the on the bridge out there just for
[1:46:24] holidays.
>> And I didn't vote on that and it's not
[1:46:27] part of the city hearing today.
>> No,
[1:46:29] » this is not part of our hearing today.
I'm just talking about this specifically
[1:46:34] and I appreciate their their business
here. I do. This is a tough one.
[1:46:40] » Would anyone be interested in the
reading?
[1:46:47] » Motion for the first reading.
>> Second.
[1:46:50] » I have a motion and second
for the first reading of the no lock
[1:46:56] reszoning request.
[1:46:59] All those in favor say I.
>> I.
[1:47:03] » Those opposed.
Motion passes.
[1:47:09] Ordinance amending the county zoning
ordinance to change the zoning
[1:47:13] classification from A1 agricultural
district to C1 highway commercial
[1:47:17] district for the herein described
property. Whereas a request for
[1:47:21] amendment to the zoning ordinance of Wy
County was submitted to the planning and
[1:47:25] zoning commission. said request having
been acted upon by the planning and
[1:47:29] zoning commission following a public
hearing. And whereas the request for
[1:47:34] amendment of the zoning ordinance
pertains to the following described real
[1:47:38] estate. A portion of the northeast
quarter of the southwest quarter of
[1:47:42] section 29 of township 98 north range 8
west of the fifth PM Wick County aisle.
[1:47:51] Whereas the said zoning request
requested that the property be reszoned
[1:47:56] from A1 egg cultural district to C1
highway commercial district. And whereas
[1:48:03] a notice of the time and place of public
hearing on said request was published
[1:48:07] pursuant to law. And whereas a public
hearing as required has been conducted
[1:48:13] by the Wii County Board of Supervisors.
Whereas the Wii County Board of
[1:48:18] Supervisors has considered the Wesi
County Comprehensive Plan and their
[1:48:23] review of the applicant's request and
does find that the request is consistent
[1:48:27] with the policies and goals set out in
the Wiki County Comprehensive Plan and
[1:48:33] now therefore be it resolved by the Wish
County Board of Supervisors that zoning
[1:48:39] classification as to the following
described real estate a portion of
[1:48:43] northeast quarter of the southwest
quarter of section 29 of township 98
[1:48:48] north range 8 west of the 5th PM Wishik
County Iowa is hereby changed from A1
[1:48:55] agricultural district to C1 highway
commercial district
[1:49:00] to that the zoning map of Wesi County
Iowa be modified to reflect this change
[1:49:06] repealer all ordinances and parts of
ordinances in conflict with this zoning
[1:49:11] ordinance or inconsistent with the
provisions of this ordinance are hereby
[1:49:16] repealed to the extent necessary to give
this ordinance full force and effect.
[1:49:20] Servability clause. If any section part
or provision of this ordinance shall be
[1:49:25] judged invalid or unconstitutional,
such adjunction shall not affect the
[1:49:30] validity of the ordinance as a whole or
any section, provision or part thereof
[1:49:35] not a judged, invalid or
unconstitutional.
[1:49:39] The effective date this ordinance shall
be in full force in effect after its
[1:49:42] passage and publication as provided by
law.
[1:49:49] » So are we
going to require any conditional uses at
[1:49:55] all on this zoning request?
>> I don't believe we can. It had to be
[1:49:59] done during the public hearing.
>> But you did not to be clear.
[1:50:02] » No one brought forward.
[1:50:08] I move to wave the second and third
readings.
[1:50:12] » And a second to wave the second and
third readings of the Novak electric
[1:50:17] zoning request.
>> All those in favor say I.
[1:50:23] » I.
Those opposed. Same sign. Motion passes
[1:50:28] unanimously.
[1:50:36] We got possible action. There you go.
Wet County Auditor.
[1:50:42] » Thanks, Tony.
>> All problems fixed by the problems fixed
[1:50:46] that are up and running.
>> Thank you.
[1:50:50] » I move to approve the zoning request.
>> I have a motion second. That was just a
[1:50:58] vote a minute ago to wave the second
>> second and third reading.
[1:51:02] » Right now we have a motion and a second
zoning
[1:51:08] ordinance.
[1:51:16] Is there any further discussion on my
vote
[1:51:20] with faith that people follow through
with the inventions were stated today?
[1:51:25] So,
>> I'm with you on that and I believe they
[1:51:29] will.
>> I I would like more information from BNC
[1:51:33] and I wish they would have been here
too.
[1:51:38] » Just anyone would like to meet, you
know, in the next couple of months. We
[1:51:42] aren't going to do much work till next
year.
[1:51:44] » But nothing's binding after today.
>> It's not. But that doesn't mean we can't
[1:51:48] talk.
>> Yeah.
[1:51:50] » Well, I want to hold all those in favor
talk. Mark.
[1:51:55] » Hi. Shirley.
>> Uh, for consistency reasons, I'm a no.
[1:52:00] » I
>> I also pass this 4 to one.
[1:52:16] » I would love to meet with you sometime.
>> That's my problem.
[1:52:18] » I know. Thank you so much.
>> Thank you for your time.
[1:52:20] » Thanks for
>> Thank you, John. Thank you.
[1:52:26] » Rise in the challenge. Tate.
[1:52:30] » Thank you all.
[1:52:36] » Next
morning,
[1:52:48] » I'm glad you guys meet on Mondays and
not regularly on Tuesday. Yeah,
[1:52:52] » I bet. Fourth day
>> crazy.
[1:52:57] » At least you dress up for us.
>> Just trying to close the place up, you
[1:53:01] know.
[1:53:04] » Um
[1:53:07] think the only item I have on the agenda
for you is the appointment of uh Will
[1:53:13] Marks as a deputy sheriff. Um, given the
fact that he is Dan Marx's son, I sent
[1:53:21] you a copy of a resolution and also a
policy concerning employment relatives
[1:53:27] and a little bit of background in
information last Friday. Um, happy to
[1:53:33] answer whatever questions that you have.
But
[1:53:38] back up a little farther. Uh, two years
ago, Civil Service Commission met and
[1:53:44] they put their list together and Will is
on it
[1:53:49] with Dan and said, "Well, you know,
we'll deal with this if we ever have to
[1:53:53] deal with it."
Here we are.
[1:53:56] » Um, so
we're down to three people on that list.
[1:54:02] Um, one is an McKe County resident who
is not willing to move to Wesake. um
[1:54:08] that individual is ineligible. Uh
another one withdrew their name and
[1:54:13] decided they wanted to stay at the
employment that they currently have and
[1:54:17] uh will is still on the list. Will
tested well. He was vetted by civil
[1:54:24] service um and at the time of his
potential appointment by you folks would
[1:54:31] be about two and a half years in as a
law enforcement officer. I've been
[1:54:37] working with him on occasion on cases
he's been involved in. Um, very positive
[1:54:43] experience. He's uh he's learning. He's
coming along. He's asking good
[1:54:48] questions. I followed up talking to
officers that he works with at the PD.
[1:54:55] I've talked to sheriff's deputies. Um,
same thing. You know, he's he's making
[1:55:02] progress. He's doing the right things.
He's asking right questions. and he'll
[1:55:05] be he'll be a um a good law enforcement
officer for Lynch County regardless of
[1:55:11] where it's at down the road.
Um next question we had to address is um
[1:55:19] we have a common policy against hiring
relatives and state code provision
[1:55:24] limiting the ability to hire a relative.
Um
[1:55:29] and how did those two fit together? Um,
in state code, you folks uh set the bond
[1:55:37] for uh officers and deputies within the
county. And the code says that as long
[1:55:43] as you set the bond for this individual,
that provision regarding um working for
[1:55:49] a family member is waved.
[1:55:53] You also um control the terms of the um
employment handbook which restricts
[1:56:01] hiring of family members.
And you can wave that provision for good
[1:56:07] cause and in this case I've tried to
identify a number of factors within the
[1:56:12] resolution that would constitute good
cause. Not the least of which is um you
[1:56:18] know if I go out and say my daughter
wants a job in my office as a secretary
[1:56:27] I'm the only person evaluating her
abilities and hiring her would be
[1:56:31] inappropriate.
Here the deputy is vetted by the civil
[1:56:36] service process um completely outside of
the control of the sheriff. um sheriff
[1:56:44] has input obviously in terms of what's
happening in that process, but the
[1:56:50] decision as to who goes on the list is
done by the civil service commission. So
[1:56:56] there's a
there's a safeguard in place um safety
[1:57:03] rail so to speak and I think
with that in place um my thought was you
[1:57:10] know legally this can happen meeting
certain criteria
[1:57:16] um in a belton suspenders move I called
Lynch Dallas and said hey here's what
[1:57:21] I'm seeing can you take a look at this
uh this with Maddie for a while. She
[1:57:26] said, "Yeah, I'm in agreement with you.
You may want to do, you know, make sure
[1:57:31] that, you know, there's written policy
in place. Yeah, we're working on that
[1:57:37] and you may want to include X, Y, and
Z." And, yeah, so we implemented those
[1:57:41] ideas. And
long story short is in the resolution, I
[1:57:48] lay out the steps that you would need to
take if you choose to make this
[1:57:52] appointment. a rationale for why you're
making the appointment and why you're
[1:57:58] suspending the county policy and why
you're approving the hire um under the
[1:58:04] state policy as well and uh ultimately
making an appointment um that's
[1:58:11] effective November 9th.
The other piece of this that's attached
[1:58:17] is the written policy itself.
um basically putting this hire under the
[1:58:22] supervision of the chief deputy. Um you
know, it's one thing if Dan says, "Hey,
[1:58:28] we're going to, you know, we're going to
have an officewide meeting on Thursday."
[1:58:34] Um probably not something that needs to
go through the chief deputy to say,
[1:58:38] "Well, you need to be here on Thursday,
or you know, we're going to we're going
[1:58:43] to fill our cars with gas at whatever
station."
[1:58:48] um that can apply to everybody. When it
comes time to say, you know, we need to
[1:58:55] uh review um potential disciplinary
issues, we need to review um uh work
[1:59:02] assignment um you know, or maybe patrol
officer, investigator, you know, those
[1:59:08] types of things. That becomes a chief
deputy decision.
[1:59:13] And rather than uh
rather than leave that to kind of a whim
[1:59:19] of any sort, we reduce that to writing
policy and is uh safeguard and I visited
[1:59:26] with uh Steve and also with Dan about
this that you know if this policy if
[1:59:32] they get working with it and say you
know this isn't quite working the way we
[1:59:37] anticipated it um come to me come back
to the board of supervisors.
[1:59:45] It needs to be changed with
all of our approval. Um, not just, hey,
[1:59:52] this isn't working. We're going to do it
different. So, you guys stay engaged in
[1:59:57] the process. And, and I think I think
that's important also.
[2:00:03] So, I don't think I've covered
everything in here that that I've uh
[2:00:07] sent out to you, but I think it's most
of it. and I'm happy to field any
[2:00:11] questions if you have them.
>> So to be clear, main supervision would
[2:00:15] be with
>> Steve.
[2:00:17] » Yep.
>> Right now, Chief,
[2:00:19] » just making it clear to the the people
watching and
[2:00:23] » and today you're just presenting this
this part um and possibly approving the
[2:00:29] policy
and the actual appointment will still
[2:00:33] come up on a future agenda or will that
>> the appointments in here also possible,
[2:00:38] » right? I didn't know for sure if that
was what the plan was.
[2:00:42] » Great. The appointment would come up um
and it includes the start date of
[2:00:46] November 9.
>> And I think Lynn was preparing some
[2:00:53] appointment documents because I don't
think we had those ready yet. So,
[2:00:57] » Sure.
I had a rare I had a rare opportunity
[2:01:01] during the fair to run into
officer Marks at the fair and in a rare
[2:01:07] vignette of time where I got to be able
to spend about 30 minutes with him in a
[2:01:11] direct conversation and with my because
I've spent a lot of years of
[2:01:17] interviewing and recruiting. Uh I asked
him a lot of very pointed questions
[2:01:20] about his career path, what he planned
on doing and things of that nature. And
[2:01:24] you know, my my take away from the whole
thing was a very squared away young man
[2:01:29] who uh is a real credit to uh proper
upraising and good work ethic. And I
[2:01:35] think what he's demonstrated down at
Decor PD has been excellent from what I
[2:01:41] see just from the outside and few
comments that I've heard. That was a uh
[2:01:46] unusual not planned but had an
opportunity there which I'm really glad
[2:01:51] to see because he it gave me a really
good feel for the strength of that young
[2:01:54] man.
>> I think it would be unfair to not give
[2:01:59] him the opportunity just because of his
relationship with Dale. I mean that's
[2:02:03] just
very unfair and he is right now the only
[2:02:09] vet in Canada to the job.
>> Um that's correct. Which also brings us
[2:02:15] to the second part of this story if you
want it now or
[2:02:20] » and I alluded to that um
city of Kmer city of Ashen are looking
[2:02:26] for more hours for law enforcement.
um
[2:02:31] when Med is looking for
hours.
[2:02:36] Um next week I hope to have uh proposed
280 agreements for your review. But with
[2:02:44] that,
assuming that those all go forward in
[2:02:48] the hours that are being proposed,
you'd be looking at one additional
[2:02:54] deputy being hired to cover not to cover
those, but to provide enough support
[2:03:02] within the office to provide the hours
that are being sought. Um the I would
[2:03:09] add that those hours and payment would
my understanding wouldn't cover the cost
[2:03:15] of another deputy. So there isn't an out
of pocket coming with that. But the um
[2:03:22] um the total hours the increase uh
would take care of that cost. But if you
[2:03:30] choose to do that, um it's going to kick
off civil service
[2:03:38] having to start a new list because
well is the last one on this one. that
[2:03:44] » that means that um when the 280s are
implemented to keep the workforce up to
[2:03:51] to be adequate to provide the coverage
countywide that you're looking for. Um
[2:03:58] they need to be vetting more candidates
>> and those potential 28 days will go into
[2:04:03] effect on January one. You'd have a
little bit of time. So just to clarify
[2:04:08] the increase in will cover all the
salary and most of the benefits. It does
[2:04:17] not include some of the other side
things but Keelmer is providing a car
[2:04:23] because they had a retired police
person. So they're are providing a car.
[2:04:28] So initial cost wouldn't be another
patrol vehicle. you know, as you go
[2:04:34] through the cycle, five years down the
line, it might cost some more for a
[2:04:38] patrol vehicle. Um, Dan has said that he
would isn't seeking an increase in any
[2:04:44] of the training and equipment and radios
and vehicles, lines to cover this right
[2:04:52] now, just this increase in revenue and
increase in salary and benefits.
[2:04:57] » Well, maybe Dan can speak on it too, but
he'll come next week. that the uh the
[2:05:04] cost given to Kell was a little reduced
with being able to reuse their vehicle,
[2:05:11] » right?
>> So, I mean, the county is buying it, but
[2:05:18] himself said that he would probably not
be able to get another squad car fitted
[2:05:22] and up and running by the first of the
year. So, was a win for Kelmer and it's
[2:05:27] a win for
[2:05:31] a reason why we can't capture 100% of
the additional costs.
[2:05:36] » It's the negotiations between those
three entities and Dan and they they
[2:05:42] were targeting a number that would
provide the costs of deputy salary and
[2:05:47] benefits. And so that's where they ended
up
[2:05:50] » and this next week's agenda,
>> but it isn't covering the entire cost.
[2:05:55] You said
>> there would be some of those other
[2:05:59] things that will
>> eventually come through, but Dan thinks
[2:06:03] that he has enough money in his budget
to cover all that. So, he isn't asking
[2:06:06] for any increases to cover that.
>> The only increases he's going to ask for
[2:06:11] are going to be equivalent to the
additional revenue. But again, this
[2:06:16] isn't actually what's on the table right
now. This is for next week. Right. But
[2:06:20] but it does relate in the fact that
they're going to need another deputy for
[2:06:24] January one and not have anybody left on
the list.
[2:06:28] » The reason Well, we can talk about next
week, but the reason it's not going to
[2:06:31] cover all of it is Dan is planning on
using that deputy for a few hours of his
[2:06:36] own additional work. So, that kind of
spills over into that. We can discuss
[2:06:41] that next week.
I I'd like to move to approve the waiver
[2:06:46] on hiring a family member, but I'd also
like to see if we could read that aloud
[2:06:50] so the public can hear what the the
verbiage sounds like on the waiver.
[2:06:55] » I'll second.
>> Would you like to do that or would you
[2:06:57] like
[2:07:00] » done two today?
[2:07:05] » All right.
One I've never seen till just now.
[2:07:10] resolution waving employment of
relatives policy approving appointment
[2:07:14] by the sheriff's son as a sheriff's
deputy. Whereas the West County
[2:07:18] Sheriff's Office has an opening for
deputy due to the res resignation of a
[2:07:23] current deputy. And whereas the Wish
County Sheriff's Office has three
[2:07:27] persons on the civil service list for
possible appointment as a deputy
[2:07:31] sheriff. And whereas two of the ind
individuals on the civil service list
[2:07:37] have withdrawn their names from
consideration. And whereas Will Marks, a
[2:07:42] certified peace officer currently
employed with the Decor Police
[2:07:45] Department, is the remaining applicant
of the civil service list. And whereas
[2:07:51] Will Marks is the son of West County
Sheriff Dan Marks. And whereas the way
[2:07:56] she county sheriff desires to appoint
will marks as a deputy sheriff to fill
[2:08:00] an upcoming vacancy. And whereas the
appointment of a relative as a sheriff's
[2:08:05] deputy is prohibited by Iowa code 71.1
unless the appointment is approved by
[2:08:11] the board of supervisors.
And whereas section 2.11 of the county
[2:08:18] employee handbook imposes restrictions
on employment of relatives unless the
[2:08:23] restriction is waved by the board of
supervisors for good cause. And whereas
[2:08:27] the board of supervisors for good cause
desires to approve departments as a
[2:08:32] deputy sheriff pursuant to the
requirements of Iowa code 71.1
[2:08:39] and 331.903
based on the information provided as set
[2:08:44] on the findings made below.
Now therefore be it resolved by the
[2:08:49] Mishi County Board of Supervisors. One,
the Board of Supervisors is aware of the
[2:08:55] following facts. There is one current
opening for a sheriff's deputy. B. A
[2:09:00] second opening may arise near the first
of the year in 2027.
[2:09:05] C. Wishik or excuse me. Sheriff's
deputies are subject to review and
[2:09:10] approval through the civil service
process as described in Iowa code
[2:09:14] chapter 341A.
D. One eligible candidate candidate
[2:09:19] remains on the current civil service
list.
[2:09:23] E. Will Marks will have apparent
approximately two and a half years of
[2:09:27] experience as a peace officer when he
starts with the sheriff's office. L
[2:09:32] through the civil service vetting
process, the most qualified candidates
[2:09:35] for a sheriff's deputy position are
selected. The search for the most
[2:09:39] qualified candidates is consistent with
the provisions of section 2.11 of the
[2:09:44] county employee handbook
which provides in part it is the
[2:09:49] county's policy to hire the best
qualified person available for each
[2:09:54] position. Relatives
of current employees are eligible for
[2:10:00] employment with the county subject to
limitations of the state law governing
[2:10:05] the employment of relatives of public
office and employees and the terms of
[2:10:10] this policy.
G. The Wii County Sheriff's
[2:10:16] Wii County Sheriff's will maintain a
policy to establish procedures for
[2:10:21] supervision of a relative of the sheriff
employed at the sheriff's office,
[2:10:26] including having the employees work
performance, discipline, evaluation,
[2:10:31] scheduling, promotion, or assignment
under the sole supervision of the chief
[2:10:35] deputy. H the proposed appointee is a
certified peace officer and the county
[2:10:40] will not be responsible for the cost of
training an uncertified hider at the
[2:10:45] academy.
Two, attached hereto and incorporated
[2:10:51] herein by reference is a policy
concerning the employment of relatives
[2:10:56] that will govern the wines county
sheriff when employing a relative as a
[2:11:00] deputy sheriff. The policy will not be
amended unless the amendment is approved
[2:11:05] by both the Wy County Attorney and the
Wish County Board of Supervisors. Three,
[2:11:12] pursuant to Iowa Code 71.1, the Wshi
County Board of Supervisors have a duty
[2:11:18] to approve the bond of the sheriff and
his deputies. And pursuant to that
[2:11:22] authority, it does approve the
appointment of Will Marks as a sheriff's
[2:11:26] deputy despite this being related to the
sheriff by the first degree
[2:11:33] consequenced
[2:11:39] for that one. Four, for the reasons
stated at paragraph one above, the board
[2:11:44] of supervisors further suspend section
2.11 of the county employee handbook as
[2:11:50] it relates to this appointment. Five.
Pursuant to Iowa code 331.903,
[2:11:56] the Wii County Board of Supervisors
approves the appointment by the Wii
[2:12:01] County Sheriff of Will Marks as a
deputy. Six. Will Marks will begin
[2:12:06] working for Wishy County on November
9th, 2026.
[2:12:10] Seven. The Wii County Sheriff shall file
a certificate of appointment with the
[2:12:15] Wesi County Auditor passed and adopted
this 14th day of September 20th 26.
[2:12:24] » I'd like to change my motion to include
the full sentence, approval of waiver,
[2:12:30] and appointment of that sheriff all in
one motion.
[2:12:35] » Same as second. That's what I actually
have.
[2:12:38] » Okay. Okay. Just want to make sure.
>> And do we need to
[2:12:41] » Yeah. So your motion is to adopt that
resolution. Thank you.
[2:12:44] » Does both of those things.
>> Thank you. Do we need to add in item G
[2:12:48] on this back page? The Winn Wet County
Sheriff's Office will maintain.
[2:12:54] The office is missing.
>> Does it matter?
[2:12:57] » You can write that in initial it.
And then here's the policy that goes
[2:13:04] with it that you should
[2:13:12] Okay, we have a motion and a second on
the tables that does the resolution.
[2:13:19] » Just real quick in discussion part of
this um apologies to the city of Decor
[2:13:24] police department for training yet
another
[2:13:27] deputy sheriff and can you know I'm
support this and and have met Will Marks
[2:13:32] and can speak also for his profession.
of an apology. Maybe we should just give
[2:13:36] a thank you
>> and a thank you for training them and
[2:13:40] giving us another great employee.
>> Okay. And we go with the roll call.
[2:13:45] » Hi Shirley.
>> Hi.
[2:13:47] » Hi.
>> Steve.
[2:13:48] » Hi.
>> I also fast.
[2:13:52] » Thank you.
>> Thanks.
[2:13:56] So this pertains to all any
>> this is a one case this one case but it
[2:14:04] pertains to all any county offices. They
cannot hire family members
[2:14:11] » unless we do this. We had a similar
>> we had a similar situation
[2:14:17] six years ago or so during co that
public health
[2:14:24] daughter but she similarly they had a
policy of the board of health and then
[2:14:30] uh she was overseen by Nancy at the
time.
[2:14:36] So this is like spot
>> kind of. Yes.
[2:14:42] » It's spot policy. I guess
[2:14:54] just kidding.
>> I do have another question for you. As
[2:14:58] long as you're here. Can you just
school us again or tell us what exparte
[2:15:04] communication is because it's very
confusing before public hearings when
[2:15:08] you've got people calling you from the
parties. If you know that there is a an
[2:15:14] issue coming up before the board and
you're getting phone calls from someone
[2:15:20] who's a participant in that particular
issue,
[2:15:25] you one should tell them that this is
something a conversation we have at the
[2:15:30] public hearing. And if you can't shut
them off and you get an earful um at the
[2:15:37] public hearing you need to say that this
is what happened and this is the
[2:15:40] information I was provided so that not
just one of you has the information all
[2:15:46] of you have the same information all of
you can use that information to make an
[2:15:51] informed decision. Um there's uh if you
look back, I've sent out stuff from Iowa
[2:15:58] State, I think several times on exparte
communications. Uh it's it doesn't go
[2:16:05] away. I get it. But, you know, be
cognizant of it and bring it to
[2:16:10] everybody else's attention if you're
going to have those types of
[2:16:14] conversations.
>> Thank you.
[2:16:17] And if I may,
in a similar vein, but not pertaining to
[2:16:23] any specific subject, I had a department
head that asked me about
[2:16:28] something he was going to propose to the
board and if he should just call each
[2:16:33] board member individually and kind of
run it by them before he brought it to
[2:16:37] the board. And I said, "No, you should
not do that because that's becomes a
[2:16:43] traveling meeting or whatever you they
want to call it.
[2:16:46] by him talking to each of you ahead of
time, you it's almost like you're having
[2:16:52] a meeting amongst all of you. So if you
have a department or someone that wants
[2:16:57] to do it that way, that shouldn't am I
saying that right, Andy?
[2:17:02] » For all of us,
>> yeah, you should you should be be
[2:17:04] cognizant of that. That shouldn't be the
way he way it's approached. So they they
[2:17:09] should bring it to you in in the meeting
or if it's just information it wants to
[2:17:13] be distributed, send it to the group
email so you all have the information
[2:17:19] before a meeting and then you can
discuss it at the meeting.
[2:17:23] Kind of it's hard because you don't know
who's on the other side of the phone
[2:17:27] line all the time once in a while call.
I mean, I answered it,
[2:17:31] » right? But I didn't have
>> I I think the other the caveat to that
[2:17:35] though is there are some of you assigned
to certain tasks um you know whether
[2:17:40] it's landfill or recycling and whatever
else you know for those department heads
[2:17:45] to come to the supervisors who is who
are assigned to their area and say hey I
[2:17:51] see this as a benefit or this is
something I'd like to suggest what do
[2:17:55] you think is
>> oh yeah
[2:17:57] » at that point they can be told yeah
bring it to the Right. And I think that
[2:18:02] that's the key is that if they're
talking to just one of you, then it's
[2:18:06] not a traveling meeting. It's when they
start when they hit three of you,
[2:18:11] they've now
made it a meeting even though it you
[2:18:15] weren't all in the same room and on the
same phone call
[2:18:18] » and and it does get cloudy and tricky
and and you don't know who's on the
[2:18:22] other end when they're calling you. But
I think it's a good reminder for us to
[2:18:25] we we cannot have this conversation,
bring it up in the public hearing so we
[2:18:30] all can hear it at the same time.
[2:18:34] » Obviously your constituents is different
than if there's a public hearing.
[2:18:38] » Yeah.
>> Or in play.
[2:18:43] » Correct.
[2:18:47] with that
second
[2:18:52] Germany.
>> No, you're okay. I'll tell you it.
[2:18:56] » We did meet with um I just saw your
contractor's truck out here and Chuck
[2:19:01] and I did meet with them down at uh
community services building.
[2:19:05] » Thank you.
>> We had a nice conversation. They're
[2:19:08] going to try to sketch something out and
get some idea for what we're looking at.
[2:19:12] I think the way we've structured it u
reduces the cost of mechanical
[2:19:17] substantially. Um, so we'll see what
they come back with. But uh
[2:19:24] when they do put that T essentially I
think we're talking about taking adding
[2:19:30] walls taking up to the ceiling have to
light fixtures around but the um the
[2:19:37] fire extinguisher stuff
lines the uh um duct work that type of
[2:19:45] thing
minimal issues. So we're not, you know,
[2:19:50] bringing those down to a drop ceiling
and all that other stuff. So hopefully
[2:19:54] it works out.
So that they thought it was all doable.
[2:20:00] And they also felt they could sound
proof it well enough that uh you know at
[2:20:06] least until people get in there and say
it's not quite working then we can take
[2:20:11] the next step. But but for the initial
start I think it looks promising,
[2:20:18] » right?
In favor of ajournment I
[2:20:33] » next week.
>> Oh gosh.
[2:20:38] » Thank
>> Thank you.
[2:20:39] » Maybe I'll just be gone.
[2:20:44] Not not really a business question, but
um
[2:20:49] just to mention and has his staff asked,
does the board want to put on a
[2:20:58] retirement party or anything for Andy?
And if so, we need to the staff is
[2:21:04] concerned because he's got several
absences already planned. So he doesn't
[2:21:09] they don't want to leave it till like oh
let's do it two weeks from now and find
[2:21:13] out he's not available. So, does do one
of you want to maybe coordinate with Ki
[2:21:20] Iverson and his one of his staff members
to try to figure out when's a good date
[2:21:25] and what you're going to do and that
kind of thing or
[2:21:29] » you surely
>> Dan, you're the chair.
[2:21:34] » Because I've asked about this for other
retiring people and we haven't done
[2:21:38] anything.
Well,
[2:21:41] » I think it's appropriate and I think
it's appropriate for all long-term
[2:21:44] employees who are retiring to have
something
[2:21:48] » and I think the staff there and his
office are planning to do something
[2:21:52] whether
>> you do it or not, but I think they'd
[2:21:55] like to see you and the board involved.
>> So, it's different. He's elected. So,
[2:22:01] » and and he's been here for over 30
years. So, that's a big difference if
[2:22:05] someone's here for one term or
something. It's still different.
[2:22:12] Dan seems to be Are you okay with doing
it if you
[2:22:16] » What What's the reasoning for
appointing?
[2:22:18] » Why not?
>> Maybe he's hoping that you're going to
[2:22:23] bring cheesecake.
[2:22:31] All right, I'll do it.
>> Thank you, Dan.
[2:22:37] Dr.
[2:22:40] » Okay, Fatima, there's only one left.
>> Thank you, Fatima.
[2:22:44] » I just wanted to make sure I had Ry's
name correctly. Nemo, is that right? is
[2:22:49] the owner of