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you go

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good evening one everyone and welcome to

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the winnetka village council regular

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meeting for may 17 2022. i'd like to

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call the meeting to order and ask that

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everyone mute or turn off your cell

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phone or other electronic devices which

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i am doing right now

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and

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i will lead us in the pledge of

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allegiance this evening

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to the republic for which it stands

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one nation under god indivisible with

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liberty and justice for all

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thank you everyone well

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for what it's worth rob can you please

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check quorum uh i would uh

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oh attendance right yeah no i'm going to

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do roll call robo oh i'm sorry trustee

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swerk here

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trustee cripe here trustee mancini here

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president ritz president and then quorum

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check for the month of june

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my only possible no is june 7th

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okay i've got a

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meeting in cincinnati

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i'm gonna be driving back and hopefully

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we'll make it but no guarantees okay

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all the other dates look over i have

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another kid graduating from something

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seventh seventh yeah okay it's hard to

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keep track

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it's one of them from one of the schools

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okay thank you randy

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all right thank you all right item

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number four public comment

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uh if there is anyone here in the room

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this evening who wishes to address

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village council on an item that is not

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agenda you're welcome to come up to the

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podium and share your thoughts with us

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would anybody this evening like to speak

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on behalf of something not on the agenda

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seeing none i'll close public comment

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we'll move forward with reports trustees

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john any report um sure i'll just last

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week's just for people who maybe didn't

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listen last week or see it on tv last

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week's study session that presented the

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possible post office site that

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chris did mr rest did a great job

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presenting uh i encourage you all to

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take a look on the website i'm sure it's

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on there

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and see what could happen there wow

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thanks john sure

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andy no report kim no report okay

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village attorney no report tonight

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village manager i'll report this evening

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and uh i could talk a lot but i have no

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report you guys listened to me enough

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last week so

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okay moving on item six approval of the

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agenda does any trustee wish to remove

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an item on the consent agenda for a

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separate vote

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hearing none may i have a motion to

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approve the final form of the consent

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agenda so moved second voice vote all

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those in favor aye opposed that motion

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carries

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uh item seven we'll move on to the

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consent agenda and i'll ask the village

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clerk to read the items on the consent

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agenda thank you approval of the village

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council meeting minutes for april 19

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2022 regular meeting approval of the

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warrant list dated april 19 through may

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2nd 2022 in the amount of 1 million 756

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541 dollars and 4 cents resolution

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approving a contract with wesco

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distribution incorporated for the

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purchase of single phase pad mount

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transformers

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resolution number r63 2022 approving a

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contract with wesco distribution

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incorporated for the purchase of

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single-phase pole mount transformers

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and resolution number r 66 2022

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approving a contract with lakes and

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rivers contracting incorporated for the

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repair of pure brace

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all right thank you rob may i have a

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motion to approve the consent agenda by

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roll call vote trustee mancini yes

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all right item eight ordinance and

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ordinances and resolutions uh our first

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item is ordinance number m10 2022

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sarah dippold interior design studio 906

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green bay road special use permit this

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is up for introduction and or possible

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adoption

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council will be considering a special

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use permit for sarah depol

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interior design studio allowing the

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existing interior design office to

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remain on the subject property

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community development director david

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shone is here to review

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uh good evening just briefly um

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sarah dippel who is here

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approached village staff in 2019 about

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opening a home good store

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with incidental design services

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which she did

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the pandemic set in and since then sarah

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has realized she needs to change her

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business model

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to predominantly interior design

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though she will make her display area

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available to the public

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by appointment

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her request was presented to the plan

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commission and the planned commission

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unanimously recommended approval

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and with that i'd be happy to answer any

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questions you may have on this request

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i'm sure if you'd like to hear from

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sarah

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she is here if you need to hear from her

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uh yes sarah i'll ask you to say a few

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words but any questions for david on

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no question nope

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uh why don't you come up and just tell

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us a little bit about what happened and

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what you're doing

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can i put this on top of this or do you

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want me to close it

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does it matter

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okay can you guys hear me

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i wrote something that i presented um a

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couple weeks ago now that i'd like to

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read again because i had a long work day

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and by the time we get to this hour i

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don't want to fumble so i'm going to

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read it

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if you want i mean i don't know how much

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of the you probably didn't hear anything

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from the last meeting other than what

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david just presented so it's just a

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quick recap about

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kind of where i'm at and why i made the

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decision i made to request this

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um so i hope i'm addressing you right i

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said good morning to you members of the

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plan commission thank you for making the

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time to consider my request i am seeking

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approval for a special use permit for my

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tenancy at 906 green bay road in

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winnetka as a luxury interior design

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firm

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before i begin i would like to note that

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i have received over 20 letters from my

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neighboring businesses in support of

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this special use request

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and i'm overwhelmed and touched by this

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and then also the approval um from the

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last meeting was wonderful to receive

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just a little bit about the hubberwoods

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design and dine which i know is not

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officially part of the village but it's

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been a great um it's been a great sort of

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development that um cynthia burr and

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rita i think ridabaggio had a lot to do

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with it too from benvenito and stein so

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a little bit about that the hubbard

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woods design and dine community of

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designers architects galleries salons

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and restaurants is rare and i have been

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we had plans to do some unique events

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community-wide and we hosted

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neighborhood events like first friday

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cynthia and rita which i just did

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but we continue to discuss ways to

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enhance and improve consumer experiences

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by hosting events neighborhood wide

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we have enjoyed shopping and eating with

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our neighboring businesses and when our

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clients come to meet with us in our

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studio they also enjoy shopping and

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eating with our neighboring businesses

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so on to why i'm here and requesting

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this special use permit

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i intend to focus my business solely on

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interior design at this time with that

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said however the gallery setting and

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beautiful window display that i have

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created will be maintained and the

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public is welcome to shop the gallery on

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a buy appointment only basis

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the gallery consists of items

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for sale ranging from ethnographic art

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sculptures and mountain mineral special

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specimens excuse me from around the

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world to fine art and luxury furniture

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when the pandemic started i transitioned

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my office from the back of my space at

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906 green bay road to my home office in

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glencoe to be closer to my children

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this is where i had run my business for

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over 11 years before moving to the space

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at 906 green bay road throughout the

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pandemic the gallery was closed and i

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stayed in communication with david

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and my landlord hoffman

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about this decision and as months turn

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to years i also conveyed that i did not

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see transitioning back to a retail

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gallery with regular retail hours

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um my landlord hoffman and i would like

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to move forward and finalize a new

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long-term lease however since i don't

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wish to keep these retail hours i wanted

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to make sure that i could get this okay

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from the village of wineca before doing

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as mentioned even with this change i

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will still be open by appointment if the

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public wishes to shop my gallery in fact

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throughout the pandemic i accommodated

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several meetings with members of the

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public who wish to purchase items that

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they viewed through my windows it was

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unreal and i accommodated and it was

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great it worked out for everybody

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so that also

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gave me some insight as to how it could

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work as by appointment only you know and

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that there would be a response that

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people wanted to get and i could make

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that happen

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i know there was a concern around my

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business demand for parking

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as noted in my pack and i am working to

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secure one to two permanent parking

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spaces in the rear of my building owned

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by my landlord hoffman in my new lease

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david had asked me to answer a few

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questions about like what the day to day

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is like so we usually have one to two

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client meetings in the studio per day

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those visits last usually around two

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hours one to two hours sometimes a

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little bit longer

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it's usually about two people sometimes

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it's three or four if there's an

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architect or builder or

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like an engineer or trade that needs to

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the time of day varies week to week but

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um

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it's four to eight meetings per week

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anytime between around 8 30 to 4 p.m

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um

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ann asked me to talk about the square

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footage which was 1200 square feet

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uh about

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okay i would like to add that moving my

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business operations

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for oh this gets into i don't know if he

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cares too much about this but my

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business

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my interior design business has a sales

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tax that is submitted through glencoe

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which is where i where my residence is

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and where my business had been before so

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i never transitioned it over to waneka

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but with this change that transition

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will will happen and from what i

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understand the village of winneco would

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then benefit from the sales tax that i

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collect for my interior design business

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which is

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a lot more than what i collect for the

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gallery so that's a plus um as you know

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i've submitted answers to the 14

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questions as part of the submittal

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process for my application in regards to

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the questions i'd like to reiterate that

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my business is a luxury interior design

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firm

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seeks to serve our community and if

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anything improve the business district

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and add value to the community our goal

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is to help our clients elevate their

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living environments which in turn

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elevates their property value and should

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hopefully elevate surrounding property

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values as well

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i love serving this community i was

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raised in wilmette and have lived and

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raised my two boys in glencoe for the

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past 12 years

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i love what i do i love interacting with

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clients and builders and real estate

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agents from the area

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and others who work in and

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around our our beloved north shore

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in closing my business has grown and

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evolved over the last few years since i

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opened my doors at 906 green bay road

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the pandemic did have a lot to do with

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our restructuring

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and i feel i will not be able to operate

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the way i need to

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for my interior design business if i'm

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required to

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excuse me maintain retail hours i'd like

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to stay in the beautiful space that i've

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created and continue to build my

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business here thank you again for your

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consideration

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okay any questions for sarah

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no

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couple questions well one question

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appreciate the honesty working with the

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city

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figuring that

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you were transitioning to a different

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business model and not just trying to be

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under the radar that's awesome

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seems like it's a great synergy with

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other businesses in the area

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even if you're not doing the retail end

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of it my only question you mentioned

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sales tax interior design how is how do

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you get sales tax so i'm trying to

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figure that out but i i'm trying to

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figure out exactly how this all works

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but but um you know i sell product as a

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designer so i sell a lot of product i

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sell a lot of furniture and rugs and

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accessories and window treatments and

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all kinds of things that are that we

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collect collect excuse me collect tax on

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and right now my business is still

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located technically physically in

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glencoe okay so with this transition

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that would be transitioning and i think

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that means that those sales tax dollars

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would go towards to a netca and that is

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a whole lot more than

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what would have been coming in for the

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gallery

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that's the only questions i have thanks

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okay you're welcome thank you

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um so

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i wasn't saying i was in the plan

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committee i'm a liaison for the plan

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commission so i heard your your um talk

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then and the commission had a lot of

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questions for you and you vetted them

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all out and they left very satisfied

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with your request and as david mentioned

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it was unanimous to approve it so just

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some anecdotal information about that

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meeting sure the only the only question

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i have is is so i'm hearing from you a

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commitment to start billing from 6093

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yes you mean you mean technically

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relocating the yes yeah yeah that's the

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goal i mean if this transition happens

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then that would be that would be the

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permanent

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physical business address you know for

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years to come and like i said i'm

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working with hoffman to towards a

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long-term lease which i'd really like to

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have happen and so if it does yeah that

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transition's a big part of this okay

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are you okay with that

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it's all

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filings with their sales tax in the

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illinois department of revenue okay

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all right if you since you guys don't

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have any other questions or comments uh

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we'll see if we can move this along

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uh

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we can't

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oh we can

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but it's okay for me to vote on that yes

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okay

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do we want to uh

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wave

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yeah

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i have no problem with that but any

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public comments

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yeah i had one more comment too oh go

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ahead guys i'm sorry um

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we've visited on this a few times over

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my years um and i've never fully gotten

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my way on this i don't think design

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businesses should have to come in for

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this i agree um so if we could get that

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back on the radar i sense we may have a

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majority support for that at this point

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whereas in the past we did not

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um because

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you have

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other things you could be doing no i

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apologi

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i didn't want to get all this going and

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then be in the wrong direction so i just

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um but it is nice because just seeing um

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i just saw bella bridle is moving in across the

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street from their their other location

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and you know there were so many

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vacancies when i first came in that it's

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just i want to stay and it's so vibrant

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now and town and oak is a big part of

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that and

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it's just a great spot and i'm happy i'm

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there one thing that came up just in

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terms of the retail overlay is that

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parking has become difficult with the

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success of town and oak and spirit

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elephant and so

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not saying that i don't want consumers

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to be coming in by appointment regularly

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but having a couple consumers come in

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for a two-hour time span is alleviating

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some of the burden on parking for

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residents as well as people coming from

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other towns especially with serena and

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lily opening so that's right i imagine

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that's going to be more challenging as

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time goes on so and it is i've never

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seen it so busy yeah i mean obviously

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we're opening back up but but town and

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oak is like my goodness i'm so happy for

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them they're so busy all the time and to

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continue to discussion andy about not

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being here for what she's doing

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the whole point of parking

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if this was a restaurant it would be a

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lot more parking required than her

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business so even with people coming to

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see her that's okay yeah the mix of

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design and dying is brilliant right and

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we should encourage it good it's working

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so there's no reason not to encourage it wasn't our idea that's why it's

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working

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i think like i said cynthia burr and um

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rita i think had a lot to do with that

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initially and they've tried to really

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fight to keep it going through the

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pandemic but they're amazing they really

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put a lot of time in so

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great thank you so anything else guys no

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all

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right we'll go with waving intro do i

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have a motion to wave introduction of

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ordnance number

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m1022 2022 so

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second voice vote all those in favor all

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right

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opposed

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that motion carries

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okay now may i have a motion to adopt

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ordinance number m10 2022 so

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second roll call vote

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trustee swerk yes trustee mancini yes

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trustee cripe yes president rince yes

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uh motion carries good luck and you have

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to come back again thank you so much

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david it's also been amazing

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until she expands

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okay item b is resolution number r59

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2022 approval of street rehab program

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this is up for adoption

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due to budgetary restrictions and

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changes in state regulations for

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mandatory replacement of lead water

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service lines village staff has

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suggested slight modifications regarding

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the

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2022 street rehabilitation and public

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proof improvement program

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engine engineering director jim bernal

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and director of water and electric brian

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keys are here to review

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thank you president rents good evening

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i noticed that we didn't drop the

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screens down so

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my apologies

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i won't miss this going away

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not loading

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so

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now

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i wonder if we're gonna restock the

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snack cabinet or not we can go back

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there

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we can we can do it old school if you

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want and i have copies of the powerpoint

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presentation just if if it's easier to

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do it that way

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if we can give it to twitter there's a

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yes extra copies over there too if you

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want to follow along

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um

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so i apologize for that for the glitch

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on here um

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so uh

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just as a as a quick recap we typically

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designed this this annual street rail

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rehabilitation program we do this every

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year during the months of starting in

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august september october we we work with

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the sewer department

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public works

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water and electric we developed the

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program and we start doing the design of

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the program we typically go out to bid

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in january early january so we can

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receive good bidding prices and then

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we'll usually come to the to the council

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late february early may for a

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recommendation

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well we were on track with our program

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and as part of our permitting process we

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learned from the iepa of a major change

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which made us take a step back and have

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to reevaluate the program that's before

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you tonight so i'm going to walk through

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the program this year this it's modified

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slightly we'll explain how we got to

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where we were at

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and go from there so

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on your your first slide this is a map

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of the program as it was originally

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intended to be developed

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scott avenue is located to the to the

566
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,880
north which would be the top of the page

567
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,960
the red locations are the locations

568
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,240
where we're at

569
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,840
scott avenue is to have some water

570
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,000
services replaced and then the roadway

571
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,240
resurfaced there's a section of tower

572
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,160
road that everybody drives out of town

573
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,559
between forest way and where idot

574
00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:42,080
owns and it needs some rehabilitation

575
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,559
that's going to get resurfaced this year

576
00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:46,720
at the intersection of hibbard and tower

577
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,559
there was a sidewalk improvement to to

578
00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:50,480
address some ada issues with students

579
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,240
walking and walking their bikes that'll

580
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,160
be taking place this year

581
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,760
marilyn gage

582
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,440
also has some water main replacement and

583
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,600
was scheduled to be resurfaced as well

584
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,720
this year

585
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,760
sun view

586
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,280
was scheduled to be redone this is a

587
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,799
priority for us

588
00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:07,600
this year and then locust and when we

589
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,919
developed the budget locust as you may

590
00:20:09,919 --> 00:20:12,480
recall had a large water main break on

591
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,720
it and so this street kind of came to us

592
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,799
after the fact after the break

593
00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:19,039
it really needs to be addressed so at

594
00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:21,039
the recommendation of of brian keys we

595
00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:22,720
added it to this year's program as well

596
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,320
so we can replace that last section of

597
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,840
water main and resurface that road and

598
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,440
clean it up

599
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,280
and then our big program was on cherry

600
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,159
street

601
00:20:30,159 --> 00:20:31,520
there was we were going to resurface the

602
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,600
roadway install a new main

603
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,280
replace services

604
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,799
clean that up and then resurface a

605
00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:38,880
section of maple so this was the program

606
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,240
that was before us this is what we

607
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,400
planned on coming back to you

608
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,400
with and so we went out to bid with that

609
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,679
intent

610
00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:50,640
so switching to the next slide um this chart here on february 18th we

611
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,480
opened our bids and again we didn't

612
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,000
learn about this change until literally

613
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,919
after we had opened our bids and we

614
00:20:55,919 --> 00:20:58,240
received our permit from the ipa

615
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,200
um the apparent low bidder was reliable

616
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,559
contracting and equipment and they

617
00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:05,200
provided a bid proposal of about 3.1

618
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,760
million dollars however in order to

619
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,679
ensure that the general contractor can

620
00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:11,520
meet all the requirements that the

621
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,440
village has our expectations for being

622
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,520
able to complete the work stay on

623
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,120
schedule have some uh kind of

624
00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:20,559
meet in the game so to speak throughout

625
00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:22,159
the whole duration we require that the

626
00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:24,559
general contractor able to do at least

627
00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:27,039
51 percent plus of all the work

628
00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:28,960
activities this prevents a lot of

629
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,720
subcontractors from coming in and the

630
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,360
inconsistency and trying to chase people

631
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:37,679
as you switch from from activity so after speaking with reliable

632
00:21:37,679 --> 00:21:38,400
we

633
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,679
determined that they were going to be

634
00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:41,520
outsourcing a majority of their work and

635
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,039
therefore they would not be able to meet

636
00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:44,400
the

637
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,320
contract expectations

638
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,679
and so therefore their bid was not

639
00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:50,720
compliant with us um the apparent low

640
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,320
bidder at the time was a limp at about

641
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,919
3.4 million

642
00:21:53,919 --> 00:21:57,520
copenhaver about 3.49 etc

643
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,280
so this is what we had expected to bring

644
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,080
back

645
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,400
so now if we'll switch to the next slide

646
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,720
just to recap some of the budget items

647
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:05,919
here

648
00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:08,799
our annual street rehab is made up of a

649
00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:11,200
few budget items engineering and from

650
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,120
the new engineering department some

651
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:14,799
budget line items from public works for

652
00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:16,480
helping them out with some patching some

653
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,880
striping work activities they do

654
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,559
and then the water department they have

655
00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:22,400
a water main replacement fund we

656
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,960
collaborate together to save costs by

657
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,799
doing a joint project

658
00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:28,400
and as you'll see here our total budget

659
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,280
for this year's program was at 2.946

660
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,919
so we realized based on the market

661
00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:36,000
what we had received was obviously more

662
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000
than what we had to spend so we took

663
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,200
some time

664
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,520
and revised the program and our original

665
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,919
intent was to take sun view off of this

666
00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:45,600
year's program and that would have kept

667
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,200
us in budget

668
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,039
during that time we discovered that the

669
00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:51,280
iepa had changed

670
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,480
our

671
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,000
state standard for the replacement of

672
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,679
lead service lines so we'll kind of get

673
00:22:55,679 --> 00:22:57,120
into that here a little bit

674
00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:59,280
so this was a new act that they had

675
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,640
passed now they had been talking about

676
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,039
this for a couple years but to be honest

677
00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,360
that we there literally wasn't much

678
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:06,720
drive in getting the word out that it

679
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,880
was going to start january 1. so when we

680
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,360
actually received our iepa permit

681
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,440
it was noted in those requirements of

682
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,440
the permit the new requirements for the

683
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,080
replacement lead services so this went

684
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,000
into effect for all lead services

685
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,320
beginning january 1 of this year and the

686
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,080
goal of it for the state of illinois is

687
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,039
to replace all lead services by 2067.

688
00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:29,200
this is initiative that they have to get

689
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,600
the lead let out so to speak from the

690
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,120
water

691
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,000
so

692
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,400
this year's project was reorganized when

693
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,000
we took a step back and looked at where

694
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,240
we were replacing the water mains how

695
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,159
many locations actually had led services

696
00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,240
well we found that scott avenue had a

697
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,120
lot

698
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,960
cherry street had a lot

699
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,880
and this is a new program and we're not

700
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,480
alone in this a lot of communities that

701
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,400
we're talking to are taking a step back

702
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,039
in their program because the change is

703
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:58,000
quite expensive and it's quite involved

704
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,679
in coordinating with the property owners

705
00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:01,919
to get access because the law

706
00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:03,679
now requires you

707
00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:05,840
when i take a step back when we restruct

708
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,679
uh construction of a new water main we

709
00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:09,440
replace the service from what the

710
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,520
village owns from the new main to the b

711
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,960
box that's in the right away and from

712
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,559
the right of or from the bee box all the

713
00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:15,840
way back to the property is the

714
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,159
residential homeowner's responsibility

715
00:24:18,159 --> 00:24:20,000
the new law states that now when you

716
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,600
replace a water main or you touch a

717
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,919
service you cannot reconnect that lead

718
00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:26,000
service back to the main so that make

719
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,840
that requires you now that when we

720
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,000
replace our services from the main to

721
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,279
the b box

722
00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:32,960
that we have to also replace it from the

723
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,960
b box all the way back into the home and

724
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,720
connect it to the meter that's the new

725
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,880
initiative so as you can imagine that's

726
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,799
quite costly and there's a lot of

727
00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:42,080
involvement when you're working on a

728
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,080
street such as scott and cherry that i

729
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,880
think we had 51. total services

730
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,000
so

731
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,200
there's a lot and there's a lot of

732
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,720
moving pieces right now and we think

733
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,240
that the state is still working through

734
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,559
the bugs on this so we took a step back

735
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:58,080
and looked at the streets that we still

736
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,240
wanted to address water main wise which

737
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,080
was a priority for water electric and

738
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,120
roads as well that needed the tlc

739
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,679
so what we did is we reorganized our

740
00:25:07,679 --> 00:25:08,960
program

741
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,720
and then what we did was we realized

742
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,559
that cherry again cherry and scott had a

743
00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:14,799
lot of lid services so we took those off

744
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:16,960
of this year's program and we put sun

745
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,200
view back on sun view doesn't have any

746
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,960
lead services right now so that's just a

747
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,240
straight water main replacement

748
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,320
on locust and then a maryland gauge

749
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,159
there's a total of three water services

750
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:30,799
within those joint combined locations of

751
00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:33,440
services we have to replace and so staff

752
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,360
is recommending as part of that that

753
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:38,080
just for this year that we address those

754
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,480
um specifically so i'll get into that a

755
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,600
little bit more

756
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,679
um on the next slide here what you'll

757
00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:47,919
see is you're on slide seven or i am on

758
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:49,600
slide six right now i apologize slide

759
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,480
six

760
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,279
um so on slide six what you'll see is

761
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:55,039
this is this table's been revised to

762
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,600
show what the original bid amount was

763
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,360
and then what the now modified bid

764
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,520
amount was again reliable equipment even

765
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,039
though we made the modified we still

766
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:04,640
determined they couldn't meet the

767
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,600
contract requirements and so again

768
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,640
that's a non-compliant bid for us

769
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,279
we took a step back a-lamp concrete

770
00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,120
contractors was still the apparent low

771
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:16,799
bidder at a little over 2 million

772
00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:20,240
dollars 23 000 527.50

773
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,600
copenhaven was about 140 000 more than

774
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,480
that and then and so on and so forth so

775
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,200
based on this modified planned um a-lamp

776
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,120
concrete contractors who has done work

777
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:32,960
for the village in the past and is

778
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,240
currently working outside the village

779
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,480
hall for streetscape et cetera

780
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,080
they have experience with us they're the

781
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,590
apparent little better right now

782
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,400
so

783
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,320
the effects on this modified program we

784
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,080
wanted to sort of show you as we took a

785
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,440
step back and we looked at the budget

786
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,320
numbers

787
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,480
um our original budget on slide seven

788
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,880
here sorry um in engineering and public

789
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,600
works was about 1.3 million um with the

790
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,919
modified program that work was reduced

791
00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:00,559
down to about a little less than 900 000

792
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:02,880
so that actually gave us a difference in

793
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,600
a surplus of about 440 000 this year

794
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,440
just in just in the engineering

795
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,960
department and public works funding

796
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,840
alone

797
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,760
for the water department

798
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,400
the result was even greater so with the

799
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,880
original 1.6 million dollar budget the

800
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,679
work was reduced down to about 940 000

801
00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:22,159
and so there was a surplus of about 666

802
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:23,760
thousand dollars

803
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,840
that was left over on here again

804
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,360
i know brian's eager to keep moving

805
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,120
forward with the with the old and

806
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:30,880
deterring water mains so i know that's a

807
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,200
priority for us

808
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,799
so when looking at this funding that's

809
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:36,159
available one of the things i know that

810
00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:37,919
the engineering department is thinking

811
00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:39,039
about is

812
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:40,799
as you know i've come back for public

813
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:43,200
parking lot areas to reconstruct those

814
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,480
i'm trying to address all of them we

815
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,559
just have a few more left so i think

816
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:48,559
some future consideration may be given

817
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:49,919
or could be given

818
00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:51,919
to addressing uh public parking lot

819
00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:53,279
areas throughout the town i know there's

820
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:54,799
some economic developments things that

821
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,080
are taking place maybe it might be

822
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,190
viable it's something to consider

823
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840
so um on the next slide number eight so

824
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,520
for this year uh program staff's

825
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,399
proposing a kind of interim cost share a

826
00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:11,039
model now this model as you may recall

827
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,360
um it's very similar to the uh sanitary

828
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:17,120
sewer backup program that we use that we we have on the books and it

829
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,480
basically if a homeowner does an

830
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,240
improvement to address a specific item

831
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,720
it offers them a fiscal contribution to

832
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,720
help with those costs so for this year's

833
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,760
program

834
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,440
we're we're proposing to do something

835
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,399
similar now i would anticipate

836
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:32,320
i don't anticipate i'm sure that the

837
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,760
water department will be coming back to

838
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,600
council to sort of talk in more detail

839
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,080
about a long-term approach to how we're

840
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,480
going to address this the lead service

841
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,559
replacement items there'll be more

842
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,720
details on different models that other

843
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,799
people are doing some costs what we see

844
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:48,799
etc but for this project we wanted to

845
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,360
address just the few that we had

846
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,760
so following that same suit of the

847
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,000
overhead sanitary sewer backup program

848
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,080
what we're looking to do is do a kind of

849
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,679
a costume share model um and what we're

850
00:29:01,679 --> 00:29:03,360
proposing is that the village would

851
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,480
cover 50 of the cost from the bee box

852
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,039
into the home uh to replace that that

853
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:10,960
lead service with copper now what we did

854
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,240
is we worked with the apparent low

855
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,240
bidder and we got three proposals from

856
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,600
three different plumbers who have

857
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,159
familiarity with this type of program

858
00:29:18,159 --> 00:29:20,559
to get some prices specific to each home

859
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,799
because the uniqueness to this is that

860
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:24,000
each home

861
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,200
their price is going to be different

862
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,600
it's not just a one price all because

863
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,320
some houses are longer some are shorter

864
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,399
there's some have different obstacles

865
00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:35,120
but um front porches foundation settings

866
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,799
things like that that can increase the

867
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:38,399
price finished basements unfinished

868
00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:40,480
basements there's a lot of moving pieces

869
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,840
to this which

870
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,440
brian keys and his team will get into

871
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,760
when they come back to the council

872
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,440
so based on the proposals that received

873
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,880
for the three homes

874
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,799
we had prices that ranged from the

875
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:52,880
lowest proposed plumber which was

876
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,600
flatter plumbing they do this program

877
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,640
have done it in the past for other

878
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,440
communities um between six thousand and

879
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,520
twelve thousand at the highest so what

880
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,520
we're proposing just for this year is

881
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,760
that we would cover half of that cost

882
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,120
and there's some options here which i'll

883
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,720
kind of go through is how

884
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,720
brian keys and his team will be reaching

885
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,399
out to each homeowner to sort of present

886
00:30:12,399 --> 00:30:13,760
these options

887
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,080
so on slide nine

888
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,440
it's sort of we sort of talk here about

889
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,039
the options that we have option one

890
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:22,320
would be is that the um they can you the

891
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,440
homeowner could choose to use the

892
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,960
contractors plumbing we have a price

893
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,960
from them they're certified plumbers

894
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,039
they can do the work um and what we

895
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:30,399
would do is we would request that they

896
00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:33,120
would reimburse the village um for their

897
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,799
portion or fifty percent of what that

898
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,600
proposed cost is um prior to the work

899
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,760
taking place that's somewhat negotiable

900
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,919
to see how quick that can turn around

901
00:30:41,919 --> 00:30:43,679
but that would be one option that they

902
00:30:43,679 --> 00:30:46,000
could consider um and then typically

903
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,200
they would prov they would receive a

904
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,880
one-year warranty like a plumber would

905
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,960
now standard protocol

906
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,080
from them

907
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,840
option two would be if they're not

908
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,200
interested in using our plumber they

909
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,640
could use their own plumber a plumber

910
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,799
that they know and that they trust

911
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:00,080
then the village would reimburse the

912
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,240
property owner fifty percent of the cost

913
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,799
but at the contractors proposed rates so

914
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:06,320
if a contra if they went out and wanted

915
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,640
to use company x because they preferred

916
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,240
and the price was substantially higher

917
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,320
than the price that we received we would

918
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,840
only pay up to 50

919
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,760
of the proposal rate that we've received

920
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,519
from the contractor not their

921
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:19,039
contractor's rate so that sort of

922
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:21,279
addresses the situation of somebody over

923
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,919
inflating the price to reimburse a total

924
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:25,840
cost for themselves

925
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,440
option three which the ipa makes

926
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,000
available is the opportunity to just say

927
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,279
i don't want to participate in the

928
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:33,519
program at all so they could opt to wave

929
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:34,880
out of the program

930
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,320
they would the village would be required

931
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,559
to have them sign a department of public

932
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:40,799
health waiver releasing them

933
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,880
from that and then if the village and

934
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,799
this is something to consider

935
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:46,240
if they decided that they didn't want to

936
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,799
do it at this time that they would be

937
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,320
not eligible to participate in a

938
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,159
reimbursement program in the future now

939
00:31:52,159 --> 00:31:53,760
that can be revisited at a later date

940
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,120
when we talk about it but that's the

941
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,760
approach we're proposing right now

942
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,120
so those would be the three options we

943
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,880
could use to address that

944
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,880
so on the next slide

945
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,880
on number 10 really basically we're

946
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,480
looking at is we would be looking at a

947
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,480
total contract cost for this modified

948
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,159
bid amount

949
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:12,159
and utilizing the contractor's plumber

950
00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:15,200
proposal that we have taking into

951
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,039
account a lamp's modified price of a

952
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:20,159
little over 2 million plus the 27 000

953
00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:21,919
for the three water service replacements

954
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:24,080
that we have for a total a new total

955
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,760
contract price which we're recommending

956
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,159
tonight for two million fifty thousand

957
00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:29,600
seven hundred sixty three dollars and

958
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,279
fifty cents

959
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:32,799
so

960
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:34,240
uh before this evening on the final

961
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,080
slide is the recommendation staff is

962
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,440
recommending based on the modified

963
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,240
program that we have this year that we

964
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,760
move forward with trying to get some

965
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,600
work done this year and not postpone it

966
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,039
um we're getting short in the season and

967
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:46,320
we need to make sure we get parts

968
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,760
ordered and we've got some work there by um

969
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,039
off of merrell by the school that we really want to get done over the

970
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:54,240
summer months so we don't have any

971
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,760
impacts to them

972
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,919
we would recommend awarding the contract

973
00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:00,559
to a-lamp for a total not to exceed

974
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:02,559
price of two million fifty thousand

975
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,080
seven hundred and sixty three dollars

976
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,440
and fifty cents

977
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,200
so with that i'd be happy to answer any

978
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,960
questions that you might have questions

979
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,440
for jim yeah what what is the average

980
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,760
cost for doing that replacement from the

981
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,399
street to the house is that two grand

982
00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:19,039
um it depends on the length um yeah but

983
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,880
typically if you're it depends on where

984
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,320
the water main is your biggest cost

985
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,000
actually is the cost that we bear when

986
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,080
we actually excavate in the roadway yeah

987
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,360
and working in the right of way because

988
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,039
you have to restore that you have to but

989
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:30,559
for the homeowners

990
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,320
um i i would say on average if you're

991
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,360
looking at

992
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,519
let's say on a home let's say on the

993
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,600
east side of winneco anywhere from 15 to

994
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,840
20 000 depending on the length on the

995
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,919
west side it could be anywhere from

996
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:44,080
10 to 15 000 realistically to replace a

997
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,240
water service are some of the options

998
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,679
and maybe this is a question for brian

999
00:33:47,679 --> 00:33:49,360
that you're considering amortizing the

1000
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,200
cost of that for the homeowner on their

1001
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,279
water bill over a period of time

1002
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,039
yeah

1003
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:56,640
so as jim mentioned we're putting

1004
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,799
together a comprehensive packet of some

1005
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:00,320
recommendations and options for you to

1006
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,840
consider because it's obviously going to

1007
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,679
influence the budgeting consideration

1008
00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:05,519
for 2023

1009
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:07,679
impacts replacement costs

1010
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:10,240
for 2023 and it also replaces

1011
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:12,639
challenges on emergent replacements

1012
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:13,919
so we did talk there's going to be

1013
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:15,440
scenarios where a homeowner may

1014
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,960
financially not be able to afford it so

1015
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,240
we're going to try to provide some

1016
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:19,760
opportunities

1017
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,359
to address that scenario when we bring

1018
00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:23,440
it back to the council

1019
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,359
and then under i'll say the village

1020
00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:26,960
manager's discretion we already had some

1021
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,720
discussion now potentially if these

1022
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,119
three individuals

1023
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,119
pose a hardship case that we didn't work

1024
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:34,879
out some type of payment plan to make it

1025
00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:35,679
work

1026
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,480
if the council goes forward with a 50

1027
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,000
option so that's what we're dealing with

1028
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,359
here's just three households that's

1029
00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:42,800
correct yes what we're asking is to deal

1030
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,399
with the three households so that we

1031
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,000
could move forward with the road

1032
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,599
rehabilitation work as jim laid out

1033
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,119
pushing those other two water main

1034
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,480
projects that encompass 51 services

1035
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,639
much more challenging to coordinate more

1036
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,720
communication hand-holding

1037
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,560
and then to be honest what and he did a

1038
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,920
great job presenting this but there's

1039
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,599
also notification periods they have to

1040
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,359
have the information in their hand

1041
00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:07,359
so many days before we can take action

1042
00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:08,320
so

1043
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,359
we just felt that addressing those 51

1044
00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:12,480
cases

1045
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,400
was going to be insurmountable to get it

1046
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,480
all in an order and execute in a timely

1047
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,150
fashion i'll just tell you my thinking

1048
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,839
it's only three households i don't want

1049
00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:23,920
people having to cry poor it's a massive

1050
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,000
hit even if someone has money

1051
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,359
asking him to

1052
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,119
cough up 15 grand in the middle of

1053
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:33,119
summer or even half of that 7 500

1054
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:34,560
since we're only dealing with three

1055
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,480
houses i mean that's

1056
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,400
i think we ought to just offer that as

1057
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,040
an option this is a really discreet

1058
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,480
i mean three households we can figure

1059
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,720
out the long term later i'd really hate

1060
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,800
to see us though jam three households

1061
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,079
that just were unfortunate enough to

1062
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,000
follow up in this cycle

1063
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,400
and they're not gonna have you know

1064
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,400
so that would be my

1065
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,800
to clarify your offer a payment plan or

1066
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,839
offer full compensation i'm sorry

1067
00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:01,359
whatever we're contemplating for the

1068
00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:04,160
long run which it probably is like we do

1069
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,119
the 50 50 but a payment plan on their 50

1070
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,280
amortize it just attach i don't know how

1071
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,040
you do that but maybe on the water bill

1072
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,400
or whatever but

1073
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,880
over a few years i would just

1074
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,599
make that option available i i just

1075
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,839
option three opt out now give us a

1076
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:20,880
release

1077
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,640
i don't like the idea of telling people

1078
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,880
it's like now or never

1079
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,440
so to clarify uh the option three's um

1080
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,240
state

1081
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,079
what that option is not so much to say

1082
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:33,680
now or never

1083
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,599
what i think jim was articulating is we

1084
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:37,119
don't know what future the future

1085
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:38,720
funding policy the rights will be we

1086
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,240
don't know if there'd be future

1087
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,640
opportunities to secure federal funding

1088
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,760
but what's clear in the state

1089
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,839
legislative act is that if they do not

1090
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:47,920
want to participate we have to have them

1091
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,960
sign

1092
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,800
saying they're elected yeah no i get all

1093
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,760
that my point is

1094
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,359
i'd like to see these households be able

1095
00:36:55,359 --> 00:36:57,359
to do it in a reasonable way without

1096
00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:58,480
throwing up

1097
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,400
okay um we always want to avoid that

1098
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,920
going along with that so these you said

1099
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,599
that you had an estimate between 6 and

1100
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:07,680
12k for these specific houses that's

1101
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,440
right is that okay so that was their

1102
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,119
amount there um

1103
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:12,960
yeah i mean i echo andy sentiment i

1104
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,960
think it's a surprise bill that could be

1105
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,720
hard-hitting for anyone regardless of

1106
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:18,480
what your financial status is and

1107
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,240
certainly concerning and you mentioned

1108
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,160
federal grant are there grants available

1109
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,320
for this that it would be probably too

1110
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,079
late for the ones these three right now

1111
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,400
which makes sense for having us yeah so

1112
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,400
we're looking at them

1113
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,680
there is

1114
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,400
iepa funding available but most of the

1115
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,240
funding being presented at this point

1116
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,000
are loans that could potentially be

1117
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,200
forgiven

1118
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,680
but it's still a bit unclear and you

1119
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,000
have to have a bigger plan in place for

1120
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,320
that to fit so it all came very quickly

1121
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,960
i think the context of this is that

1122
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,880
the bill had changed a couple of times

1123
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,599
but it became effective january 1 but an

1124
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:55,920
inventory was required some time after

1125
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,079
which we had pretty well done but you

1126
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,000
really had a plan the requirement was

1127
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,280
then you have a plan ready to go

1128
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,200
approximately a couple years later which

1129
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,040
inferred that you had time to put a plan

1130
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,480
together here they're saying it's

1131
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,680
effective

1132
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,760
inventory plan when it should be

1133
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,640
plan or inventory plan effective date

1134
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,200
which makes it a little tough so i i

1135
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,680
would say that the funding options

1136
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,520
that we know of

1137
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,839
at this point would require that if we

1138
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:23,680
took federal or state money it would be

1139
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,680
100 funded and there wouldn't be a cost

1140
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,760
share program so if that happened we

1141
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,040
would have to go back and make people

1142
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,920
whole in this interim period yeah and

1143
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,640
candidly if we just did 100 on these

1144
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,400
three households just to keep this

1145
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,880
moving i i i really don't like the idea

1146
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,599
of

1147
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:41,359
jack-in-the-box

1148
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:43,599
and it's not our fault but

1149
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,560
in springfield but um yeah i

1150
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,920
just don't like that idea the chances

1151
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,079
residents are aware if we were sort of

1152
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,000
you know surprised by it we were we were

1153
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,760
taking a conservative conservative

1154
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,680
approach with it where it was really

1155
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,079
modeled after the sanitary program yeah

1156
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,560
and looking at a 50 50 cost share

1157
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,440
um

1158
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,359
without over committing the village

1159
00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:05,280
because if you look at 100 funding and

1160
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,800
if it's all on

1161
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,560
you know our funding model then rates

1162
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,079
are going to have to go up it wouldn't

1163
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,560
be viable as a long term without that

1164
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,320
kind of whatever but if we're just

1165
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,680
talking about let's get through this

1166
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,000
season three houses

1167
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,839
instead of them being unhappily lucky

1168
00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:22,160
i'd rather see them be happily lucky and

1169
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,589
not you know because

1170
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:28,240
yeah um one one other question for me

1171
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,400
was about the option three which i i

1172
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,320
recognize it's not saying that it's hard

1173
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,320
and fast rule to be done but for the

1174
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,760
inventory we have and for let's say

1175
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,880
there's someone selling their home and

1176
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,720
they were to sign this waiver saying i'm

1177
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,960
opting out for this are we is there

1178
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,480
somewhere a future homeowner would be

1179
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,000
able to see that they've opted out for

1180
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,320
this that they have a lead an inventory

1181
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,359
led service line it gets recorded it's

1182
00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:51,280
going to be recorded with the state

1183
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,400
because we'll have to submit that they

1184
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,720
opted out now on the respective like

1185
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,359
purchasing a home so the inventory is on

1186
00:39:57,359 --> 00:39:58,960
the village's website it's both

1187
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,960
available at a high level so it talks

1188
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,200
about total number of services partial

1189
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,839
led services full led services and in

1190
00:40:05,839 --> 00:40:07,440
compliance with the state act which

1191
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,000
required us to post an inventory it's at

1192
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,079
address level details so you can go and

1193
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,079
look up your respective house or house

1194
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:15,839
you're looking to purchase

1195
00:40:15,839 --> 00:40:17,760
and tell according to village records

1196
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,520
what we believe is

1197
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,599
the service line material in theory it

1198
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:23,040
would be on a homeowner to know that

1199
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,800
this is a scenario that's happening or a

1200
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,079
realtor to

1201
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,319
we get calls from realtors i mean i i

1202
00:40:28,319 --> 00:40:29,839
can't say every realtor knows but i do

1203
00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:32,720
get frequent calls from realtors who are

1204
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:34,720
brokering a transaction and this is now

1205
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:36,720
becoming more of

1206
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,480
a chip in the negotiation

1207
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,560
on a house closing price whether it's

1208
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,400
from a prospective buyer

1209
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,280
or a realtor trying to sell a home okay

1210
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,040
i think we're not alone

1211
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,800
sorry we're

1212
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,800
definitely not alone and with this new

1213
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,000
bill coming in there's a lot of

1214
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,480
communities if you can anticipate some

1215
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,160
not so fortunate low economic

1216
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,280
communities are being faced with the

1217
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,800
exact same thing and the hardship that

1218
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,560
you're concerned about is very real

1219
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,240
there so in talking to some other

1220
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:04,000
directors other village engineers that i

1221
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,960
know

1222
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,040
it's hitting everybody hard my guess is that there'll be a lot of questions

1223
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,040
that make their way back to springfield

1224
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,720
usually when these types of things take

1225
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:13,760
place

1226
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,280
i wouldn't be surprised if somebody

1227
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,040
takes a step back and they really start

1228
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,240
to think through the program a little

1229
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,560
bit more as the hurdles come out the uh

1230
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,800
the goal is good it's it's it's

1231
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,640
admirable but it's it's the

1232
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,160
implementation part that needs a little

1233
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,440
bit more tweaking

1234
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,400
so

1235
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,520
question i have it seems like a big flaw

1236
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,359
if the state is telling you you have to

1237
00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:35,280
connect with the you can't connect the

1238
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,560
led line

1239
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,400
are you able to opt out of it

1240
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,720
right now it's that big of a hazard

1241
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,040
so it just seems wrong you're basically

1242
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,400
the homeowners acknowledging that

1243
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,680
they're aware of the risk and making the

1244
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,599
decision not to that could solve our

1245
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:49,520
problem right there so

1246
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,560
i mean so they have an option so again

1247
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,119
unlucky fortunate unlucky or unfortunate

1248
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,599
um they do have an option so i mean this

1249
00:41:57,599 --> 00:41:58,960
is not a

1250
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,280
if they really are

1251
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,280
hell-bent against excuse the expression

1252
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,040
they can opt out but we are going to be

1253
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,800
required to submit documentation to the

1254
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,599
state

1255
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:09,920
so for example on the streetscape

1256
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,760
water main work i have to sign off

1257
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,680
stating that there is no lead service

1258
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,560
lines reconnected to new water main

1259
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,119
uh when that to get our final operating

1260
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:20,720
permit for that main i'll be in the same

1261
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:23,200
situation for each of these projects

1262
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,640
that have to sign off and they

1263
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,880
specifically ask for that statement

1264
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,119
if not i have to provide okay what's the

1265
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,200
scenario which will be inevitably that

1266
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,040
waiver

1267
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,800
a little education for me maybe maybe

1268
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,319
you don't know the answers

1269
00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:38,240
is it really the drinking side of the

1270
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:41,040
water they're consuming it cooking does

1271
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,200
it cook out the bad stuff no so it's

1272
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,960
consumption of the water so i mean it's

1273
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,480
basically where you're consuming it so

1274
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,920
keep that in mind i mean so if you've

1275
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,520
got a filter in your house

1276
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,880
you've just cleaned your blood out of

1277
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,079
your pipes

1278
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:53,760
so with that knowledge if i had the less

1279
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,319
service i got my filter

1280
00:42:56,319 --> 00:42:58,240
why spend six or twelve thousand dollars

1281
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,720
i'll sign a release and uh taking a

1282
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,200
shower cooking is not going to matter

1283
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,240
so

1284
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,200
it's i mean as a prelude to what's

1285
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,200
coming it'll be you know we'll present

1286
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,520
options for the council but it'll be a

1287
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,800
question about

1288
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,440
the cost implications and future rates

1289
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,040
what we do for emergent and plan and

1290
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,440
there's also a social component too like

1291
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,880
you know i paid for mine why do i have

1292
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,400
to pay for gyms

1293
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,480
so those are some of the unfortunate

1294
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,160
decisions we bring back to you at a

1295
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,160
future meeting like a study session

1296
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,319
brian is it just a bit of context with

1297
00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:35,280
respect to our testing for lead in our system can you just add a little

1298
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,839
yeah so we do we're required by epa

1299
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:39,760
standards to do testing

1300
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,200
it's a three every three years they do

1301
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,440
it's the lead copper rule there's a

1302
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,400
number of

1303
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,079
houses with lead water services and

1304
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,480
copper services we take those tests with

1305
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,319
where some of you may be participating

1306
00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:52,240
or residents watching

1307
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,880
we it's a set list of people when

1308
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,880
someone moves we have to refile to add a

1309
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,640
new residence on but we leave them water

1310
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,800
bottles with samp instructions on how to

1311
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,040
sample staff picks them up it gets sent

1312
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,119
to a laboratory that laboratory reports

1313
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:07,520
the results to the state so we're under

1314
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,240
any regulated standard for lead in

1315
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,000
potable water

1316
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,000
uh under so we're meeting that that's

1317
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,560
reported publicly every year in our

1318
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,480
consumer confidence report but this is

1319
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,200
again the next level in removing lead

1320
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,839
from potable water supply in illinois

1321
00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:26,160
and at the federal level

1322
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,240
is that they're no longer going to allow

1323
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,319
partial lead services or the repair of

1324
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:32,720
lead services and in the additive to the

1325
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,800
water for the coating

1326
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,640
part the adding to the water for the

1327
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,000
coating of the pipe

1328
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,640
yeah so uh village manager's bane as you

1329
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,319
know as we've communicated before the

1330
00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:44,240
village has a long history they treat

1331
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:45,760
the water with a chemical called

1332
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,680
polyorthophosphate

1333
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,079
which basically uh prevents a lining to

1334
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:51,920
slow the mitigation

1335
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,760
of any type of lead into the potable

1336
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,720
water

1337
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:56,319
so that we've they've been doing that

1338
00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:57,119
for

1339
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:58,960
more i've been here 16 years so longer

1340
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,200
than that let me ask

1341
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,960
is it more cost effective for a

1342
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,119
homeowner to do this in conjunction with

1343
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,599
our project or does it really matter

1344
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,400
it's way it's hands down more

1345
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,880
cost competitive for a homeowner to be

1346
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,560
part of our water main project and get

1347
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,599
it done

1348
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:18,480
because as jim mentioned

1349
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,400
under a water main project we would

1350
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,800
cover the costs no cost of the homeowner

1351
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,480
built into the rates of bringing a

1352
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,160
copper service from the water main to

1353
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,160
the property line as part of our

1354
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,160
long-standing water main replacement

1355
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,720
policy we did that all the time right if

1356
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:34,880
you had alleged service

1357
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,800
it would get reconnected at the property

1358
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,079
we would encourage you and give you

1359
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:39,680
communication like this is a great time

1360
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,000
to look at replacing it but

1361
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000
most people did not and so we would

1362
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,800
reconnect the lead service what this

1363
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,240
really what's come from this is a state

1364
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:49,599
saying we're not going to let you do

1365
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,440
that anymore and without it

1366
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,040
unless you have the waiver unless you

1367
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,160
sign the waiver

1368
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,839
my my question is it more cost effective for the

1369
00:45:58,839 --> 00:46:02,720
homeowner to do the replacement from the

1370
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,119
be box to their house

1371
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:07,040
at the same time does it really matter

1372
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,480
because you got to dig up oh so they've

1373
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,720
actually so this is this is where in the

1374
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:13,280
springfield has pinned us in we have 30

1375
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,160
days so if you as a homeowner elect to

1376
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,079
go do this on your own no i'm not asking

1377
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:19,839
for that i'm just literally is it more

1378
00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:23,030
expensive

1379
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,430
i would

1380
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,520
the most say part of the program is

1381
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,760
actually the excavation down to the main

1382
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,520
in the roadway okay repairing the

1383
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,440
roadway backfilling it and you've got

1384
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,800
that open yeah and you have to and

1385
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,560
sometimes the locations can go back in

1386
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,560
the same spot sometimes they can't so

1387
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,920
sometimes you might have to move over so

1388
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,760
you have multiple holes in the road to

1389
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,839
get it to where the bee box is plus the

1390
00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:48,400
restoration of the parkway sidewalks

1391
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,520
when you're when we're going from the

1392
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,440
home my guess is that and what i'm

1393
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,960
hearing from all the plumbers that are

1394
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,560
participating in this program is they're

1395
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,160
directional boring they're digging a

1396
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,000
hole on the outside of the home we have

1397
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,839
a pit open where the bee box is at they

1398
00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:01,680
show up with the machine directional

1399
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,440
bore right to where they need to go and

1400
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,040
you just pull the copper out saves your

1401
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,640
front lawn from getting all ripped up

1402
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,720
where if a lot of times folks if you had

1403
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,480
to pay somebody to do the exact same

1404
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,400
thing it would be quite expensive so

1405
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,319
that's why they open trench most of them

1406
00:47:14,319 --> 00:47:15,359
because that's cheap so you just

1407
00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:17,119
answered my next question about

1408
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,520
landscaping materials grass basically

1409
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,960
how to hold the house

1410
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,960
does a homeowner just take care of that

1411
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,960
real landscape in that area i mean

1412
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,319
the way that the law is written right

1413
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:29,280
now unfortunately yes okay

1414
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,119
we would try to minimize the impact of

1415
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:32,960
where that whole is at

1416
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,520
to try to do that so it in looking at

1417
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,040
other communities there are some

1418
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,040
municipalities that have considered

1419
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,480
not paying for the maine to the bee box

1420
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,319
and we've had that as part of our policy

1421
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:46,880
for a long time some are they may have

1422
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,400
done in the past and are looking not to

1423
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,800
do it yeah some never have

1424
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,640
so i think in many respects we've kind

1425
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,400
of built it and that cost into our model

1426
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,400
already so now we're at the b box to the

1427
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,599
home

1428
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,240
that delta how do you get that done

1429
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:01,680
as long as we're on the digging things

1430
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,160
up just a practical question

1431
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,079
we got a lot of huge trees in this town

1432
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:07,920
that i'm imagining these service lines

1433
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,760
are going right through how do you deal

1434
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,760
with that can you go around them so yeah

1435
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,720
so

1436
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:13,920
every scenario you're thinking of right

1437
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,880
now we've

1438
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,319
yeah

1439
00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:17,599
i shouldn't have taught that but yeah

1440
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:18,720
cause we'll hear about it there's a

1441
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,800
bunch of dead trees we do we work with

1442
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,720
the village forester

1443
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:24,400
um we work with the contractors so

1444
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,240
inevitably in every project every water

1445
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:27,520
beam project there'll be one or two

1446
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,760
houses where it doesn't go the textbook

1447
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,119
design to the property line because

1448
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:32,640
where the water service is there's this

1449
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,119
beautiful oak tree yeah so we work with

1450
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,200
the homeowner and the contractor to try

1451
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,400
to find

1452
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,079
an alternative that still meets the

1453
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:41,839
requirements for providing reliable

1454
00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:43,920
service that can be maintained without

1455
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,000
taking a tree out sometimes that means

1456
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,040
putting uh

1457
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,720
unfortunately a funny bow in the service

1458
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:50,400
line sometimes it means shifting the

1459
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,240
location of the b box a couple of feet

1460
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,079
one way or the other

1461
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:57,670
um

1462
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,599
they do what's called a bullet it's just

1463
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:01,359
an aerodynamic bullet that they line it

1464
00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:02,640
up where the old service is at and it's

1465
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,960
just tap tap tap and it gets a

1466
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,559
directional board right underneath it so

1467
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:08,079
you figure out the two spots it's a

1468
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:10,160
short distance we do that now and if the

1469
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,559
old service is in the tree root area you

1470
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:14,640
can just disconnect it and abandon it in

1471
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,280
place that's correct okay

1472
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,480
as far as far as paying

1473
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,119
is there some process

1474
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:24,160
that if

1475
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,440
people don't have the money or don't

1476
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,960
want to pay the money

1477
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,960
they can sign another document that you

1478
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,040
put a lien against a home

1479
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,119
that you get that at a next closing or

1480
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:35,680
something i got an idea

1481
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,470
all right

1482
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,200
maybe the the way to approach this is to

1483
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,480
just do a simple recapture agreement

1484
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,559
my concern is i agree with you these you

1485
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:48,800
know these people are getting short

1486
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,240
the short end of the stick here it's

1487
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:51,839
like oh by the way we're going to be

1488
00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:54,000
replacing your water main even though it

1489
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,520
wasn't in the program for this year but

1490
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,359
now it is and by the way cough up an

1491
00:49:57,359 --> 00:49:59,040
extra

1492
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,200
seven eight nine ten thousand bucks

1493
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,960
right so we can

1494
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,640
tear up and you might you might find

1495
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,720
these three people don't even want it

1496
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:08,480
a simple recapture

1497
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,680
at least

1498
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,800
we would have the option if the policy

1499
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,839
ultimately ended up being a 50-50 split

1500
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:18,160
that they would be responsible for that

1501
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,079
payable either at the

1502
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,839
transference of the property or whatever so we could

1503
00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:25,760
kick it down the road so that new

1504
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,599
purchasers would be the ones splitting

1505
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:29,200
the bill for it

1506
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,400
uh

1507
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,920
and we can still go ahead and take care

1508
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,440
of this i don't feel good about these

1509
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,760
three people and my first instinct was

1510
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,680
27 grand

1511
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,000
and you're saving a million off of your

1512
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,400
budgeted money between the two of you

1513
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,839
there's almost a million dollars that

1514
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:46,400
you're not spending as a result of this

1515
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,880
rejiggering of the system right

1516
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,119
so the 27 wasn't

1517
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:52,640
i'm not being flipping about the money

1518
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,000
but i look at and think yeah but at the

1519
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,160
same time if we have a different policy

1520
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,599
then they either got away with something

1521
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,599
that we weren't going to do recapture

1522
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:03,839
gives us the flexibility that we decide

1523
00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:07,599
on a 50 50 that's the value that becomes the subject of the

1524
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:08,960
recapture

1525
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,119
if we find federal money or grant money

1526
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:13,280
to pay for everything

1527
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,280
then we can go that way

1528
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,359
so you're suggesting a recapture that

1529
00:51:17,359 --> 00:51:19,760
would be a lien on the property

1530
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,280
most recaptures are

1531
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,359
recorded yeah okay

1532
00:51:23,359 --> 00:51:25,119
so so how do we move forward with these

1533
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:26,720
three homes

1534
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:28,160
from a village

1535
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,079
standpoint

1536
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:32,720
we can't just give stuff away free

1537
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,280
yeah i mean right i don't know

1538
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,240
legally i don't know that's not going to

1539
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:40,160
be option one option two

1540
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,160
uh

1541
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,440
but

1542
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,640
instead well i guess would be option one

1543
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,720
use contractor's plumber reimburse the

1544
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:50,480
village but instead of doing that

1545
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,119
they have the option of not

1546
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,839
reimbursing the village but we have

1547
00:51:55,839 --> 00:51:56,960
there's an agreement that we can

1548
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,119
recapture that cost at a later date so

1549
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:02,319
we pay so the 50 is the recorded lien

1550
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:03,680
and got to give them a range of how much

1551
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,359
money that is do you have to record it

1552
00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:07,599
because you know it's a utility

1553
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:08,640
right

1554
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,079
i'm wondering if if we did it through

1555
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:12,800
the utility if it just could be added

1556
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,400
spread out of the bill

1557
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,920
well that's then you don't have to lean

1558
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,000
the house because whoever's got service

1559
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,000
at the house it stays with it

1560
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,200
the

1561
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,440
peter on that one

1562
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,680
peter village attorney excuse me can

1563
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,040
weigh in but i think that's one of the

1564
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,040
concerns i like the

1565
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,440
from a practical standpoint the ease is

1566
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,440
to put it on the utility bill

1567
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,680
i think though that recovery if you were

1568
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,920
to sell the house that we would

1569
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,680
potentially not have a good recovery

1570
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,319
component by to go to the next homeowner

1571
00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:44,160
when you close you have to show that the

1572
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,720
utility bill is fully paid

1573
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:48,800
you can't close without that in illinois

1574
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,079
so if you have it on the utility bill

1575
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:53,520
that serves as your capture without

1576
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,880
leaning the house

1577
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,680
right normally recapture is recorded and

1578
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,520
i don't think it's a big deal for it to

1579
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,760
be recorded i would say do both um have

1580
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,119
it on the utility bill the problem with

1581
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:04,559
utility bills that means sometimes

1582
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:06,079
you've gone through and at the last

1583
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:07,760
moment they come in here to pay and all

1584
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,200
of a sudden they see this thing and it's

1585
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,160
like

1586
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,160
you know then then you're threatening

1587
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,640
the transaction and i don't think having

1588
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,200
a recapture

1589
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,559
you know that's not that out of the

1590
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:20,640
ordinary it's not an ugly document yeah

1591
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,319
it's you know one or two pages easy to

1592
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:23,599
understand

1593
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,280
right um and it would i would say the

1594
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,040
recapture agreement should come back

1595
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,800
here for you all to approve before we

1596
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,040
definitely right right even for the

1597
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,319
three houses right yeah yeah yeah

1598
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:38,240
can you hear that first tomorrow

1599
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:44,470
you meet tomorrow it'll be ready

1600
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,559
that's good because if we do it for free

1601
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:48,720
somehow yeah no right now you just did

1602
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,400
the addition that paid for a water

1603
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,800
service that's not fair either

1604
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,640
still distilling down what i'm hearing

1605
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,119
the comments so uh i'll take the what i

1606
00:53:57,119 --> 00:53:59,040
think my next steps are

1607
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,240
assuming you're going to approve the

1608
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:01,520
contract what i'm hearing is that we're

1609
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,599
going to approach the three homeowners

1610
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:04,880
we're to give them we're going to

1611
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,640
present the option to do cost sharing

1612
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,520
now as outlined in jim's staff report

1613
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,680
if there's if they so choose or there's

1614
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,119
a hardship

1615
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:14,559
that they could either

1616
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:16,240
we'd work with them on proposing a

1617
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:19,040
payment schedule or they could defer

1618
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,520
this to some longer term over a longer

1619
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,040
period term to a recapture agreement

1620
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,800
that would be recorded

1621
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,040
and basically for three people i i guess

1622
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,880
i would propose is we just go have that

1623
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,000
open conversation with three individuals

1624
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,760
i think trying to do that in the future

1625
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,880
projects with 51 plus customers will be

1626
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,880
challenging but for three

1627
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,640
is to go talk to them and say here's

1628
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,480
some options what can we do to make this

1629
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,680
less

1630
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,119
frustrating to you since then you're

1631
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:47,040
using your like you're the unfortunate

1632
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,040
unlucky ones that get to be the first to

1633
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,799
read through the gauntlet yeah and is

1634
00:54:50,799 --> 00:54:55,040
there some brochure one page thing we it

1635
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,960
explains we're working on that now that

1636
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,640
it may not be the end of the world the

1637
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,240
way i think yeah

1638
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:02,640
just don't drink your water

1639
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,280
unfiltered unfiltered yeah there are

1640
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,359
requirements that we'd have to leave i

1641
00:55:07,359 --> 00:55:09,280
mean i think we you know i i'm going to

1642
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,640
take this quick second and say this on

1643
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,240
camera so if you have a lead service

1644
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:13,200
line

1645
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,880
you should consider things like point of

1646
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,640
use filters where you consume it you

1647
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,240
should run the water when you get up

1648
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:20,000
when it's been stagnant overnight flush

1649
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,079
your toilet run your lawn sprinkle or

1650
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:23,440
take your shower

1651
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,160
before you draw it for potable water use

1652
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,480
most people i mean for the vast majority

1653
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,359
of people

1654
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:31,839
i talk to you know are not they already

1655
00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:33,920
know they have a lead service line and

1656
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,839
have made a decision and however they're

1657
00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:38,480
internally coping with it to do

1658
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,880
a lot of those things already

1659
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,480
but this is a legislative act that's

1660
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,119
going to require the municipality

1661
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:46,720
to deal with it

1662
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:48,319
legislatively on every water main

1663
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:58,470
project and every repair going forward

1664
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,359
i think

1665
00:55:59,359 --> 00:56:01,839
as peter

1666
00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:02,720
you know

1667
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:04,880
the recapture gives us the flexibility

1668
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,480
that nobody's getting special treatment

1669
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,480
and ultimately we can true up with them

1670
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,480
or not we can figure it out you know we

1671
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,720
can cancel the recapture agreement i

1672
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:15,680
guess because

1673
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,400
right

1674
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,240
it runs to us anyway

1675
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,000
if we decide that

1676
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,319
you know or if we find this

1677
00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:23,920
bucket of money from the federal

1678
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,200
government that's going to help us pay

1679
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,240
it

1680
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:28,960
but in the meantime i just i

1681
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,359
i'd be really angry if somebody even

1682
00:56:31,359 --> 00:56:33,200
somebody as nice as brian showed up at

1683
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,119
my front door and i said

1684
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:37,119
you got to write me a check for 15 g's

1685
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:39,119
and you know

1686
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:40,559
i would not be a happy camper with that

1687
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:43,280
i don't think any of us would correct

1688
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,480
uh

1689
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,760
and then when you tell them the source

1690
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,599
of why we have to do this then people

1691
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:50,720
are going to get even more angry yeah so

1692
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:52,319
i think we have to make it as palatable

1693
00:56:52,319 --> 00:56:54,000
as we possibly can

1694
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,760
hopefully get our rear ends in gear and

1695
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,520
start looking for the money and be and i

1696
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:58,880
know you guys are on top of it and

1697
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,280
watching this but you know let's let's

1698
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,359
really put a concerted effort on finding

1699
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:04,480
the cash so we don't have to

1700
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,799
inconvenience our homeowners anymore

1701
00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:08,400
i mean

1702
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,559
and then go from there i just i'm really

1703
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:13,200
afraid of if if as a full council we get

1704
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,040
together at a study session and say okay

1705
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,760
50 50 is the way to go

1706
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,799
you know we're going to hear it about

1707
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:20,799
the three that god got it for nothing

1708
00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:22,880
right that's that's my bigger word

1709
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,000
you know

1710
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,280
and uh you know being first could be

1711
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,880
good or it could be they had pretending

1712
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,160
right which way

1713
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,400
your opt so the two features are the

1714
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,200
payment a payments plan or the recapture

1715
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,599
in addition to what we've laid out right

1716
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:39,680
that gives people a lot of options yeah

1717
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,599
i i think that

1718
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:44,000
uh yes in full disclosure we might want

1719
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,760
to encourage them to take the recapture

1720
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,040
agreement if we're going to be

1721
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,720
revisiting and we should just let them

1722
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,480
know we're going to be analyzing the

1723
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,920
overall version

1724
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,440
that's the whole reason for it right

1725
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,520
yeah and yeah

1726
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,119
and in in the bid of two million oh

1727
00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:58,400
fifty

1728
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,160
does that included three services to the

1729
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,920
house yes it does that was the full

1730
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,920
that's the 27 000 on top and what

1731
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,000
happens if they punch through a finished

1732
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,240
basement park the owner's got to repair

1733
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,040
the inside that's correct so it's got to

1734
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,960
be clear it gets them through the exact

1735
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,280
same opening that's there now and it

1736
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,079
replaces it up to the meter oh

1737
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:21,430
it's going to be very

1738
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,640
and the difficult part about having the

1739
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,960
same company do all of them

1740
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,440
is you know that we were behind them we

1741
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,440
got the insurance with them yeah i mean

1742
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,040
stuff could happen this is this is why

1743
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,799
staff took a step back when we found out

1744
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:36,480
about this and went wow this is a game

1745
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,119
changer yeah and and we're not alone a

1746
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:40,240
lot of communities are going through the

1747
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,079
exact same you're dealing with this

1748
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:43,760
everyone here that we are right now yeah

1749
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,160
are people struggling like we are okay

1750
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:51,280
well good job on the fly mixing it up so worst case scenario

1751
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,839
if we approve the 250

1752
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:55,200
and some change

1753
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,960
and we have three homeowners that opt

1754
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,640
out we get a change order negative

1755
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,319
correct we just we don't we just

1756
00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:01,680
wouldn't pay the contractor yeah we

1757
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,280
would not spend right yeah right i just

1758
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,960
don't spend the contract to be reduced

1759
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,119
that's correct okay okay

1760
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:08,640
sounds good

1761
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,950
any public comment on this issue

1762
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,359
seeing none uh let's bring it up here

1763
00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:17,200
may i have a motion to adopt resolution

1764
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,720
number r59 2022

1765
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,079
still moved

1766
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:25,359
second roll call vote trustee swerk yes

1767
00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:28,079
trustee mancini yes trustee cripe yes

1768
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:31,270
president rents yes

1769
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,000
um good job guys thanks guys appreciate

1770
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,839
it

1771
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:39,829
what a mess

1772
00:59:39,839 --> 00:59:43,440
okay item c is resolution number r64

1773
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,200
2022

1774
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,799
this is now we get to have some fun

1775
00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:48,720
approving intergovernmental agreements

1776
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,240
for the sale lease of a fire rescue boat

1777
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,799
this is awesome hi john the winneca fire

1778
00:59:54,799 --> 00:59:56,480
department is seeking council's approval

1779
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,559
for an intergovernmental agreement that

1780
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:00,559
would allow our fire department to join

1781
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:02,079
the wilmette and evanston fire

1782
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:04,720
departments to utilize a rescue boat

1783
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,799
belonging to the village of willow

1784
01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:08,160
springs

1785
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,960
for joint water rescue and marine fire

1786
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,960
response i can hardly wait to hear this

1787
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,400
story

1788
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,359
fire chief john ripka is here to review

1789
01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:20,720
so yes so thank you um a lot a lot there

1790
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,480
um hopefully i can unpack this for you

1791
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,599
so

1792
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:25,599
before you tonight our

1793
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:29,760
two igas one for between when i get one

1794
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,400
mata and evanston with willow springs

1795
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,000
for the um

1796
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,559
lease and sale of a fire boat

1797
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:37,839
second night uh intergovernment

1798
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:39,520
agreement is between when i come out and

1799
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,200
evanston for the maintenance and use of

1800
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,640
the fire boat

1801
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:43,520
so

1802
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,440
the history of what got us here so

1803
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,599
currently when we respond to a incident

1804
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:49,359
on lake michigan

1805
01:00:49,359 --> 01:00:51,280
we respond all of our moneca units go

1806
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,200
our battalion our engine and our

1807
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,640
ambulance

1808
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,440
if there's a boater in distress or uh

1809
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,799
you know a capsized boat whatever it is simultaneously we also

1810
01:01:00,799 --> 01:01:03,440
get a response from wilmette and glencoe

1811
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,280
they're both responding with a boat

1812
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,960
and we also get response from the us

1813
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,079
coast guard

1814
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:10,559
station at wilmette harbor

1815
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:13,200
so um

1816
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,599
we were notified last year from the

1817
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:18,000
coast guard that they're um changing

1818
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,680
their uh

1819
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,000
equipment and their staffing at the

1820
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,440
wilmette harbor

1821
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,119
um effective

1822
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:27,599
actually last year so they are typically

1823
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:29,839
there year round they are now there um

1824
01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:31,520
in the summer months only

1825
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,319
and in 2021 they left about mid-august

1826
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:36,000
so typically they you know they say

1827
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,119
they're going to be their memorial day

1828
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:39,119
of labor day but they left about mid

1829
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:40,880
august last year so

1830
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,480
you know obviously that's that's a heavy

1831
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,880
um response for us they have a boat

1832
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,000
that's in the water and it's a larger

1833
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,520
bolt than we're receiving from glencoe

1834
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,480
walnut because it's a coast guard boat

1835
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,400
capabilities are you know they

1836
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,480
historically they would assist with

1837
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,839
underwater rescue they stopped doing

1838
01:01:55,839 --> 01:01:57,200
that many years ago so they're surface

1839
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,480
rescue only

1840
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,760
and they also do um marine fire um so if

1841
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,200
they have a pump so they can if there's

1842
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,119
a boat i think maybe you remember there

1843
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:07,039
was a boat explosion in wilmette harbor

1844
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:08,799
a few years ago so they're able to

1845
01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:10,400
assist with um

1846
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,440
uh

1847
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,280
fire control on on boats on lake

1848
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,039
michigan or in the harbors

1849
01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:17,280
they're no longer able to do that either

1850
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,240
so

1851
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,119
when we

1852
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:21,119
received this notification from them

1853
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:23,119
evanston moment and when i could uh the

1854
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:24,880
chiefs got together see if we'd come up

1855
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,799
with a plan to sort of either supplement

1856
01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:28,160
or come up with some sort of shared

1857
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,319
resource shared response to sort of pick

1858
01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:31,839
up for some of that lapse that we're

1859
01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:33,280
finding from the coast guard

1860
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,920
which led us to willow springs so willow

1861
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,960
springs um has a fire boat they use it

1862
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,160
for many years

1863
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:41,520
it's been in storage for the last three

1864
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,599
years are no longer using it um they

1865
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:45,359
received it on a port authority grant

1866
01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:46,799
which is kind of how we heard about it

1867
01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:49,760
through um cook on emergency management

1868
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,599
so we reached out to them and made the

1869
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:53,200
connection the three of us went out

1870
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,920
there looked at the boat um it fits

1871
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,760
what we would need for our response it's

1872
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,520
a 26 foot

1873
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,920
fire hawk boat and it has a fire pump on

1874
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:02,640
it

1875
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:08,880
the sides fold flat to the water so it's ideal for water for dive responses

1876
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:09,760
so

1877
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,039
um they agreed to allow us to lease it

1878
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:15,920
for one year at no cost

1879
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,079
and then at the end of the one year if

1880
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:19,440
this trial

1881
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,039
response works with our three

1882
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:22,799
departments then we have the option to

1883
01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:24,000
purchase it for a hundred thousand

1884
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,440
dollars

1885
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,640
so

1886
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,240
um

1887
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,559
we got some good uh council to extend

1888
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:32,480
that one year to 18 months so we have a

1889
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,240
little leeway after the one-year period

1890
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,520
where we have a little bit more time to

1891
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,839
sort of digest our numbers and our and

1892
01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:39,920
review our response um and see if it's

1893
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,240
going to work for us um

1894
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,839
but let me see what else that i have

1895
01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:44,640
here

1896
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,440
what was willow springs doing boats no

1897
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:48,960
they're not on the lake i see the

1898
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,440
displayings river runs so they use it on

1899
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,480
the river

1900
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,480
um

1901
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,960
you could probably google it what they

1902
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,880
used it for but they're no longer using

1903
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,640
it so

1904
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,799
it was some sort of river response it

1905
01:04:02,799 --> 01:04:07,920
was more police patrol i think than

1906
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,640
fire but they had the fire pump on it

1907
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,200
i'm not 100 sure what they

1908
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,520
completely used for so

1909
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,520
it's been in stores for three years it's

1910
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,990
i think

1911
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,440
they use it i think on the water for

1912
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,440
five so eight to ten years old what's

1913
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,160
the longevity of a boat i don't i don't

1914
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,079
i know how well you maintain it you know

1915
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:29,200
could be

1916
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,839
20 years yeah and what's its value sorry

1917
01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:33,119
i'm just trying to understand 100 yeah

1918
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:34,880
the appraisal value was 100 000. it

1919
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:35,839
wasn't that's what they came up with

1920
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:37,039
that number yeah we have the appraisal

1921
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:39,920
documents uh and they got it for free

1922
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,599
through the grant did they pay for it

1923
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:43,359
they got it free through the grant

1924
01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:46,470
but it was it's it's now

1925
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,119
it's beyond the peer the payback period

1926
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:50,799
so there they have sold ownership of it

1927
01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:53,680
now right but

1928
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,359
you know what how did they request that

1929
01:04:55,359 --> 01:04:57,280
right yeah

1930
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,079
i i will i should i will say we are also

1931
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,000
in the process of pursuing grant money

1932
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,760
ourselves through cook county and the

1933
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,000
poor authority grant we're first looking

1934
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:06,839
for

1935
01:05:06,839 --> 01:05:10,480
um you know start-up costs and training

1936
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,799
expenses right and then um we're likely

1937
01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:15,680
to pursue a similar grant uh should we

1938
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:16,640
get it

1939
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,559
you know within the next 18 months we

1940
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:20,640
have the opportunity to return this boat

1941
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,160
when they knew when there was new any

1942
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,720
idea what the cost was i don't or what

1943
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,520
do we did replace it now i mean

1944
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:28,240
i

1945
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:32,000
that'd be i i think it was 300 350 right

1946
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,079
from what i recall i can't say 100 i

1947
01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:35,359
remember hearing that when we in our

1948
01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:37,200
discussions with them but john you get

1949
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,119
the chance to

1950
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:41,599
use this for

1951
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:43,599
a period before you guys decide what you

1952
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:45,039
want to do right

1953
01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:46,640
correct so it's it's a trial it's the

1954
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,559
one-year trial you know they agreed to

1955
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:50,480
lease it to us at no cost

1956
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,400
um and this is you know to see it it's a

1957
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,039
response we haven't done before right so

1958
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:57,440
you know the way we devised the response

1959
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,760
would be it's we worked out agreement

1960
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:00,880
with the coast guard so we're able to

1961
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,319
keep it in one of their slips so it'll

1962
01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:04,160
be stationed at wilmette harbor if

1963
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,480
there's an incident in winnetka

1964
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,400
on upon our dispatch they would

1965
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,000
simultaneously dispatch evans and will

1966
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,319
met on on our call and they would

1967
01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:14,319
respond directly to the boat

1968
01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:15,760
it'll be in the water so they just have

1969
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,400
to get on and start driving up here

1970
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,160
similarly if there's an incident in

1971
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,079
evanston we would respond lights and

1972
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:24,319
sirens with wilmette and the first two

1973
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:26,400
to four uh fire personnel that are there

1974
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,160
that are trained to drive and operate

1975
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,760
the boat would get on us and respond to

1976
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,039
the scene we think it's going to

1977
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:32,480
increase our response

1978
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:33,839
obviously being a shared resource you

1979
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:35,839
know the costs you know for any one of

1980
01:06:35,839 --> 01:06:37,359
our departments they have to

1981
01:06:37,359 --> 01:06:39,039
you know put the cost on their own it's

1982
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:41,359
not really feasible so just you know to

1983
01:06:41,359 --> 01:06:43,280
do the trial period for for a year we

1984
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,799
thought was was a good way to go was it

1985
01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:46,400
was nice that this was available

1986
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,000
i mean if it works you know i'll

1987
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,200
probably be back here in a year talking

1988
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,799
about different options then

1989
01:06:50,799 --> 01:06:53,680
um but you know startup cost

1990
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,520
you know

1991
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,960
fairly minimal you know will be some

1992
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,039
fuel costs we have some dry inspections

1993
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:00,400
that we'll have to do you know before we

1994
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,280
take ownership of it um

1995
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,640
but you know

1996
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,079
the departments are all on board you

1997
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:07,680
know our membership is very very much on

1998
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,599
board the guys are very excited you know

1999
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:11,680
to to to try this we've

2000
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:12,799
we're one of the few communities on a

2001
01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:14,960
north shore that doesn't staff a boat

2002
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,440
you know as a fire department so um you

2003
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,280
know they're very committed to this you

2004
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,960
know the fft board has already agreed to

2005
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,640
put forward some funds towards this i

2006
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,240
think 10 or 15 000

2007
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:27,599
so that'll cover a lot of the startup

2008
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:29,200
cost of fuel costs you know the initial

2009
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:30,240
training

2010
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,079
um

2011
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:34,400
how many calls do you get a year or a

2012
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,160
season that would require a boat like

2013
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:37,920
this sure so it's it's not a lot you

2014
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,599
know when i could we average i look back

2015
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:41,920
on our data probably three to five per

2016
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:42,880
year

2017
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:43,920
um

2018
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,680
but you know these these calls are you

2019
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,520
know they're

2020
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,039
high risk right so we're putting people

2021
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:50,319
out in the water

2022
01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:52,880
um you know on boats or in rescue gear

2023
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,160
so you know

2024
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:55,680
the comfort is having a larger boat we

2025
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,039
know that's coming

2026
01:07:57,039 --> 01:07:58,240
and we're looking at a third of a

2027
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,440
hundred thousand

2028
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:00,880
what's that one third of a hundred

2029
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,280
thousand right yes yes if we decide to

2030
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,839
buy it correct right okay

2031
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:07,920
so and any maintenance costs or anything

2032
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,280
everything that

2033
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,640
going forward now for this first year is

2034
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,630
all split three ways right

2035
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,960
questions comments

2036
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,799
i guess comment the worst question would

2037
01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:19,600
be

2038
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,199
if you find out the whole engine blows

2039
01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:22,799
up

2040
01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:25,359
in this one year trial period

2041
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:27,920
are you required to fix it

2042
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,920
or is it considered a

2043
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,440
messed up boat and i don't want it

2044
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:32,480
anymore

2045
01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:33,920
just to

2046
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,520
i mean i could see something like that

2047
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:36,640
happening you know

2048
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,799
worse worst case right

2049
01:08:38,799 --> 01:08:40,400
we gotta give it back to him like we got

2050
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,359
it or yeah right i mean just

2051
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:45,279
not sure how you address that

2052
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:46,799
we are we are pursuing a insurance

2053
01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:48,799
policy so one that's taking the lead on

2054
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:50,080
that we'll contribute one-third of the

2055
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,400
cost for that insurance policy and we're

2056
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,159
looking to address a lot of those

2057
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:56,319
through that policy that would be a

2058
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:59,440
biggest concern buying a lemon i mean

2059
01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:01,839
it has been used in three years

2060
01:09:01,839 --> 01:09:03,600
well the good news is is that at least

2061
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,279
we get a chance to use it for free for a

2062
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:07,600
year to unless something happens and

2063
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,080
that year works out mechanically yeah

2064
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,839
it'll be fully inspected i think too

2065
01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:16,480
right okay diesel or gas issue

2066
01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:17,759
there's not a lot that goes wrong with

2067
01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:19,040
those jobs

2068
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,799
once it's all dried out for

2069
01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:23,520
three years and there's no oil in it and

2070
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:27,520
i mean i'm just yeah we're we're having a very thorough

2071
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,679
you know dry inspection done then we'll

2072
01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:31,520
do another wet inspection okay so

2073
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,120
hopefully we'll you know we would we

2074
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,560
would catch any you know anything like

2075
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,080
that right thanks seals and all that

2076
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,359
stuff will be looked at by the mechanic

2077
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:39,440
it's muds and marinas who were scaled to

2078
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:44,950
take it to you know start so sure

2079
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,560
i guess we don't get to go water skiing

2080
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,149
out of that either do it

2081
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:51,520
you might want to move the fourth of

2082
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,709
july parade

2083
01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:56,480
in the parade

2084
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:58,400
all right is there any public comment on

2085
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,679
this item tom you want to share any

2086
01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:01,600
thoughts on this while you're your last

2087
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,590
shot for the evening

2088
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:06,790
okay

2089
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:08,000
[Music]

2090
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,199
all right

2091
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:10,800
we're ready to see if we can move this

2092
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,320
along

2093
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,239
may i have a motion to adopt resolution

2094
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:15,760
number

2095
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,520
2022

2096
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,960
so move

2097
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,159
second

2098
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:22,480
all right roll call vote trustee credit

2099
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,719
yes trustee swerk yes christy mancini

2100
01:10:24,719 --> 01:10:25,440
yes

2101
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:28,320
president rince yes

2102
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:29,520
okay

2103
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,719
thanks a lot john i appreciate that

2104
01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:34,239
you've heard the concerns though and

2105
01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:35,679
then certainly when you get back with

2106
01:10:35,679 --> 01:10:37,679
the group make sure that we can

2107
01:10:37,679 --> 01:10:39,280
you can address those at some point in

2108
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,560
time

2109
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,159
weekly report would be a great place to

2110
01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:45,199
just answer those questions if you could

2111
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:47,120
thanks

2112
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,520
all right

2113
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,120
last resolution of the evening is

2114
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,320
resolution number r65 2022 waiving

2115
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,960
competitive bidding and approving a

2116
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,199
purchase of a line track

2117
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:01,600
from all tech industries this is for

2118
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,040
adoption

2119
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,920
due to huh

2120
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:06,880
oh

2121
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,640
and it turns out that we have to defer

2122
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,440
this because there's

2123
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:14,320
we need issues trustees to vote

2124
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,320
for waving bid

2125
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,080
so there are only three here present

2126
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,080
tonight so we'll defer this to the next

2127
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:21,520
meeting in june

2128
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,480
um brian the contractor is acknowledging

2129
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:31,350
this is ready to go and should be okay thank you

2130
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:32,800
that's correct village manager bain

2131
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,640
we've talked with all tech kids and we

2132
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,080
believe that deferral will not

2133
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,239
jeopardize this

2134
01:11:38,239 --> 01:11:39,679
decision for the council to make it to

2135
01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:42,320
june meeting thank you yeah yeah my only

2136
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,080
concern if you guys read you know read

2137
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,080
that item in the packet was that it

2138
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,480
feels like there's a time crunch even

2139
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:50,159
though we're not getting this thing for

2140
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:51,360
three years

2141
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:52,640
so

2142
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,640
uh anyway we'll see that again on june

2143
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,239
7th and hopefully be able to move that

2144
01:11:56,239 --> 01:11:57,440
along

2145
01:11:57,440 --> 01:11:59,679
all right uh item nine no business

2146
01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:01,920
there's none item ten new business there

2147
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,840
is none item eleven appointments there

2148
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,440
are none

2149
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:08,709
and

2150
01:12:08,719 --> 01:12:11,520
item 12 closed session there is none

2151
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,760
and item 13 is adjourned may i have a

2152
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,320
motion to adjourn so moved second voice

2153
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,320
vote all those in favor all right

2154
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:19,280
opposed

2155
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,679
to standard