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All right, it is 6:03 p.m. I'm going on

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Monday, October 5th. Uh, I will now call

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to order this regular meeting of the

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Wooki City Council and we will actually

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begin the evening with the liquor

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control board

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and I will

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ask uh, Councelor Goodrich to help lead

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the pledge of allegiance.

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To the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> Thank you.

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Jenny, do you want to introduce the

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items for all together or separately?

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>> Um, it's up to you.

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>> Okay. Um well the uh consent agenda

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items are for discussion approval of

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John Ryan VFW

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um third class liquor license discussion

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approval DLP LLC or 211 Main Street and

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renewal for

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first third class liquor licenses

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outside consumption permit restaurant

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application discussion approval for

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Mountain Valley Restaurant uh 212 Main

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Street first class liquor License and

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restaurant application

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discussion approval for Yen restaurant

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65 Wii falls way first and third liquor

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license first and third class liquor

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licenses outside consumption restaurant

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application and discussion approval of

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Onion River Hotel 111 Wuski Falls way

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for an entertainment permit.

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>> Yes, thank you. Um so actually um Onion

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River Hotel did have that on the agenda.

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I had on the agenda for August 3rd so we

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don't need to do that one. Okay. But

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here is Summer um who's opening up the

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new establishment at Yen Restaurant. So

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>> great. Do you want to come introduce

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>> Explain about it. Talk about

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>> just Yeah, come come on come on up and

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introduce yourself.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Yes, you can move that over. Yeah.

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>> Um so my name is Chuk Gale. I goes by

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summer and um I'm opening my second

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restaurant business located at 65 Wooki

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Falls Way sweet 104B which is where

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don't worry used to be in. Yeah. And it

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will be a Vietnamese restaurant um

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Vietnamese cafe and kitchen that we

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offer Vietnamese coffee drinks um you

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know some kind of cocktails and food as

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well. Awesome. Yeah. Um, business hour

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will be Tuesday to Sunday, 11 a.m. to 3

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pm and 4 pm to 900 pm.

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>> Great. Nice.

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>> When do you when are you hoping to open?

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>> Oh, wonderful.

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>> Um any questions from council?

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>> And Mountain Valley has one on November

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4th.

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>> November.

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>> And is that going to be prohibitive for

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>> Yeah. cannot open. Um, yen restaurant

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can't open until I receive that

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has time. Yeah.

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>> And is that something you were aware of?

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told by the fire marshall um that um

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only because I haven't laid out all the

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tables and chairs in the dining room.

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the capacity just yet. Um, and I offered

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to do it right away, which he stopped me

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from doing so and saying that he

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understand that, you know, these

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meetings takes weeks to schedule and he

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wouldn't let that um delay the process

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of opening. So, I was actually unaware

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of that until today when Jenny came in

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and just had a chat about November 4th.

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>> Okay. Um well, perhaps you can work with

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staff um to to see if there's a way to

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move up those dates. But, um

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are council comfortable um approving

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>> All right. Um, I seek a motion to uh

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approve the consent agenda item as

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>> Thank you.

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so much, Summer.

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>> Um, we'll close the um liquor control

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board meeting at this time and at 6:08

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p.m. we will open the city council

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agenda review. Is there any changes to

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the agenda requested by city council?

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public comment. The city of Wooki

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encourages public comment during city

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council meetings. If you choose to offer

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any public comment, please sit at the

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public comment table um here in the if

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you're joining in person um speaking to

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the microphone um and please don't

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comment from the audience. It's the

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microphones. We want to make sure

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everybody is able to hear that audibly

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for the recording and anybody joining

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online. Uh state your name and address

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where you live. Direct your comment to

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the city council. Um and staff may

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follow up after the meeting as

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appropriate. Um keep your comment to

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comments to two minutes or less if

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possible. And if attending online, test

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your camera and microphone before

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joining. Use your um first and last

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name. Use the raise hand function uh

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during public comment to indicate

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interest in speaking. Do we have anybody

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for public comment this time? Anyone

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Okay, great. Um, I will move to the

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consent agenda.

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Quite a few things here, so I'm going to

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read through them all. Um, for approval,

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city council meeting minutes of

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September 21st, 2026.

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Uh, payroll warrant September 13 through

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September 26, 2026. Accounts payable

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warrant warrant as of October 1st, 2026.

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quarterly reports for Chin and solid

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waste district and Wooki Valley Parks

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commission structure. That's a memo um

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provided by myself and the mayor.

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approval of Vermont League of Cities and

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Employment Resource and Benefits Trust

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um to designate a person to complete and

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submit ballots for directions and

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representatives to the annual meeting.

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item for discussion? No. Okay. Um,

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everyone in favor of approving the

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>> All right. We will move to council

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reports and I will start with you,

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councelor Goodri.

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>> Okay. Um, the Wooki Finance Commission

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will next meet on Tuesday, October 16th

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at 6 PM here at city hall and on Zoom.

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That's all that I have. Great. Um we are

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anticipating having our regular safe,

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healthy, connected people meeting on the

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October 13th. Um the agenda and meeting

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details will be posted leading up to

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so please tune in. Welcome everybody's

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welcome in person or online. And I

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anticipate having the housing uh

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commission meeting on October 27th. And

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again, details for that will be posted

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online as the meeting nears.

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Um, councelor Turos,

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uh, friendly reminder, Wednesday is walk

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to school day, October 7th, um, here in

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Manuski. Uh, I've been organizing it

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along with our safe routes to school

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team and the amazing Watt. I look at

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counselor Oglevie because he's the

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reason I'm involved. Um, and so just a

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heads up that on Wednesday morning you

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will see lots of young kiddos and

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families, students, staff, neighbors,

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uh, walking, rolling, and biking to

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school. Uh, local motion will be there

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at the school along with our

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superintendent, Wilmer, who will be

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handing out prizes, um, and some morning

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snacks to some of the kids. Um, we're

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really trying to not only show our

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students and our school population that

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we are a walkable and bikable city, but

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every single day that we um need to slow

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any questions, I'm organizing that and

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you can email me at my city council

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email. Um, the Burlington Airport

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meeting on Wednesday, October 7th at 400

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PM. Um, and just in case anyone has

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follow-up questions regarding sound

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mitigation or anything like that, uh,

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can follow up with them. On Saturday,

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October 10th, I'm organizing another

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Wyuski community cleanup that will be

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happening at 9:00 a.m. We can all meet

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outside specs at 7 West Canal Street.

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materials, latex, gloves, trash pickers,

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bags, everything. Um, lovely high

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visibility vests if you want. Um, and

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uh, kids are are more than welcome,

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families are more than welcome. It's

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just a great way for us to continue to

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um clean up our city. A lot of folks

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really eager for this and they love that

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it feels like green update, but that

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we're doing it on a monthly basis. The

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inclusion and belonging commission meets

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on Monday, October 26th at 6 p.m. here

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at city hall. We will be engaging in a

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discussion uh a follow-up discussion on

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the background check policy as well as

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the memo that was just approved

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regarding commission structure. Downtown

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Wooki held our first Inerson board

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meeting last week and I just want to

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share that we went to the newly opened

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sneaky. It was really wonderful to

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support a local downtown Wooki business

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during that time. And lastly, I just

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want to say a massive thank you to

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Trisha O' Kain, friends of the Wooki

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River, and Cidra from the Wooki uh

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recreation department for hosting the

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Memorial Park Birdwalk on Saturday,

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September 26th. This was the first time

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in my tenure as a city council member,

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but I think that we had done something

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like this. It was massively well

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attended. I have never seen so many

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people like so engaged in that

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particular park which I know that we're

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really trying to revitalize um learning

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together. It was just like so we did an

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entire loop and so um I know that a lot

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of organization and thoughtfulness went

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into that and so I'm just really

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grateful to everyone who participated.

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Um that's it.

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>> Great council.

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>> Uh so I want to start off with

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apologizing for uh last month's

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municipal infrastructure commission

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meeting was unfortunately canled due to

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my absence. Um, I learned that city

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emails don't work internationally. Um,

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so good job keeping the city secure. Bad

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news for the people I was supposed to

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email. Um, that being said, this coming

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meeting we will continue our discussion

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about how to better improve and manage

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commission structure. Um, and we look

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forward to hearing from folks.

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>> And what's the date? It will be

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Thursday,

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October

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22nd.

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>> Okay, wonderful.

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>> At 6:30.

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>> Staff updates.

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>> Yes. Uh, are you a resident with an

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extra vehicle? Are you a college

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student, business owner, or employee

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looking for a steady parking option?

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Need a spot in the parking garage during

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winter parking bands, or just looking

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for a place to park? The city of Wooki

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is now offering long-term parking space

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agreements in the Wooki parking garage

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on Cascade Way to individuals or

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households. Multimonth and

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month-to-month agreements are available.

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To learn more and uh fill out the

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inquiry survey to get started, please

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visit wookivt.gov/news.

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The general election is Tuesday,

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November 3rd from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.

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at the Wooki Senior Center. The Vermont

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Secretary of State will mail ballots to

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registered and active Wooki voters

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beginning in October using the address

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on your voter registration. This is your

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ballot. Once you receive your ballot,

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you can return it by mail to Wooki City

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Hall. Drop it off at the city clerk's

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office or bring the ballot to the Wooki

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Senior Center on election day. You can

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check your ballot status and register to

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vote at vote.vermont.gov.

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That's all.

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Um, do you want to mention Main Street

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urban cut?

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>> Um, sure. Yeah, it was a really well

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attended event. Really appreciate that.

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Community members in addition to our

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very important folks. Um, actually, I

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guess everyone's very important. So,

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that there was such a great crowd that

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turned out and uh, a chance to reflect

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on what a big project that was, how much

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work went into that, and how much the

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community put up with and endured and

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came through the other side with. So,

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yeah, it was great to have everyone out

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and celebrate and had some nice said

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things from some nice people. Thanks.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Um, all right, on to our regular items.

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Uh, we have item A for discussion

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presentation from the tax the rich to

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fund Vermont coalition member. Um, and

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we'll invite um Matt Guyle to the table

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to introduce this item.

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Yeah. Hi, I'm Matt Guile. Um, and I'm a

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resident on Mount Street and a candidate

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for state rep here in Wooki. So, I've

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been working with the tax the rich to

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fund Vermont coalition. Um and um we've

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been working to put ballot measures on

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several different municipalities that's

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really encouraging our legislature to

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tax the rich so we can fund the sort of

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programs that really will make uh

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Vermont an affordable place for working

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people. Um so Wooki is one of the

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municipalities we're working on. Um

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there's also a measure that's being

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proposed in Montpielar and another one

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in um in Randolph. Um so we've gotten uh

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I don't have all of my clipboards. Some

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of them are still out in the wild. Um

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but we've got over 100 signatures so

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far. Um we've done two canvases. Um

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actually actually I have right in front

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of me. We were on Thomas's street last

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week, but Oh, there he is. Hey. Um,

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and really our goal with these ballot

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measures is to really put it to voters

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and to show that this is these sort of

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policies are something that really are

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um are popular among people and I will

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say talking to people at their homes um

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it is some of the easiest petition

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ballots collection I have ever been

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engaged in. Um so the uh we are trying

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to collect over 300 petition signatures.

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Our target is 350. so that it can go on

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the ballot. But I would love if the city

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council was sort of a partner um in this

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um and um you know so I think we so we

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can say in as many ways as possible that

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taxing sort of those that can afford it

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to fund the social programs that we

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really need um is something that we can

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do as a state and is something that um

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you know Wooki residents and our city

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council um could support. So um I have

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one of the petitions here. I have some

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of our tax rich to fund from a

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coalition. Um but again the petition is

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saying um we are the city council is

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going to be

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>> in progress

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>> advising the uh the the legislature um

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to uh tax the top 5% of income earners

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in Vermont and use that revenue to fund

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the social programming that again makes

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is making affordability a struggle for

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Vermoners. So, universal primary care,

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funding housing programs, really again

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the things that really are making um

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Vermont a uh a a a hard place for a lot

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of working people right now. Um but um

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but yeah, again, I I would like to if if I could open up for any questions if

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anybody has about um the petition. I

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think I had shared the the text of it

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with with Thomas earlier. Um but yeah,

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it's really been it's been a really

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inspiring thing actually talking to

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people um and just how excited they are

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when they're like tax the rich to fund

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the things that we need. Yes, please, People almost like tear it out

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of my hands. Um and then even people who

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haven't signed have been really

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interested, have taken the cards and um

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and has really initiated some really

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interesting, really fantastic

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conversations with uh with some of uh

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yeah, some of our Wiski neighbors.

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>> Matt, thank you. Apologies for being

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late. I was driving up from southern

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Vermont and can't always control how

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that's going to go. Um,

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>> my people

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>> precisely. Um, I appreciate you coming

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in today. We we spoke about this I think

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as you had started to say when I was

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walking in um for well maybe just for

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you Eli but because I think everyone

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else has seen it but at the before the

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legislature starts right after the

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elections city council sends um a list

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of our priorities um to uh the

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legislature. So, if this were something

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that voters were to approve, if it was

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to get put on the ballot, I would

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imagine that that's probably would be

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the avenue that I would look at to to

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communicate something like this. Um,

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definitely, you know, an interesting

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topic that I've been hearing about for a

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little bit and I've definitely heard

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from residents and people across the

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state really. So, um, was was very

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intrigued when you, uh, said that you're

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getting petitions for it. Um, I'm sorry

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I didn't hear. How How many have you got

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so far?

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>> So, we've got over a hundred so far. Got

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I've got 80 on my uh at my desk at home

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and then we got a couple of uh uh

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clipboards that are out in the wilder

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friends collecting some signatures.

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>> Um, but and again, this is part of sort

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of a a larger right like the WC city

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council does not set state tax policy.

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Um, this is, you know, just

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>> I appreciate that you know that

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>> one avenue of sort of demonstrating

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again putting it out to voters, having

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it on the ballot and like, you know,

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being able to go to the legislature and

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say, "Look, here is, you know, Wooki

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voted, you know, sort of hopefully

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overwhelmingly in support of this

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measure." Um, and then showing that in

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several municipalities. Um and um and

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the other the other component of this

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too is again even if the city council is

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interested in um putting it forward

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themselves, we we I still do we still

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are going to do some canvasing and

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collecting more signatures. Um because

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really the goal is to one talk to people

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um and then also get people comfortable

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talking about it, canvasing, and really

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build up a group of folks um that are

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ready when the legislaturator is having

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testimony about these things that are

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ready to show up and testify and speak.

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uh speak about it

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>> as you are knocking doors with folks.

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Have you been kind of communicating the

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process once you know if it were to get

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on the ballot, if it were to be

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approved, have you've been talking to

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people about what happens in the

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legislature cuz I think you know and we

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voted for just cause eviction for

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example. I think a lot of people thought

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oh it's law and wooi. I don't know how

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many people reached out being like but

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we have just cause eviction here. Um so

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have you been including that just so

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that people understand like what what

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could happen like ideally you you want

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something to happen but that could not

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be the outcome. So

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>> yeah yeah I think um again I have been

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talking about it as like one component

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of this larger campaign and that line of

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the Wooki city council does not set

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state tax policy is something that I do

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use regularly trying to communicate like

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what this is this is this is something

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that we're demonstrating that this is

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something that Wooki wants. Um but

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again, this is not the actual

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implementation of of that tax bill.

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>> Awesome. Um well, the item is just a

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discussion for us tonight, which we're

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not obviously deciding anything. Matt

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doesn't know the signatures yet,

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although I fully believe he will. Um but

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when that happens, he'll inform Jenny

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and then Jenny will let me know um that

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the signatures have been collected and

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then we'll discuss what next steps will

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be. But I just thought Matt had reached

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out and asked if he could come and uh

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speak to us about this proposal.

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I love the idea. So, I'm glad that

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you're able to uh join in. I know that

544
00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:49,760
you're doing other stuff, too. So, um if

545
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,760
any of you have questions, please feel

546
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,919
free to ask. Melie, go ahead.

547
00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:55,520
>> Um is there anything specifically that

548
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,520
you're looking for support from council

549
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,200
um to advance this?

550
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,840
>> Yeah, I think well, so um it can go on

551
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,679
the ballot if again if we get the

552
00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:04,960
petition signatures, but I think the

553
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,600
city council also has the opportunity to

554
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,200
put something on the on the ballot as

555
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,600
well. Um, so again, I was hoping in some

556
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,200
way that the city council could be sort

557
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,200
of a partner in the endeavor. Um, and

558
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,400
it's not something that, you know,

559
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,000
again, I I tried to I reached out to

560
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,600
Thomas before we started collecting

561
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,000
signatures to um, you know, because I I feel like many of you probably are are

562
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,320
in support and on board. Um and um yeah,

563
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,240
so I guess I guess whatever the city

564
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,840
council might feel is sort of

565
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,440
appropriate in in sort of supporting

566
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,039
this measure and if they uh if they feel

567
00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:37,760
they're willing to um uh it could be a

568
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,520
statement or if anybody's willing to

569
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,960
sign a petition, I do have it right

570
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,840
here. Um and uh yeah, any way that you

571
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,120
could sort of support or communicate

572
00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:46,960
about it, I think would be amazing.

573
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,039
>> Thanks.

574
00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:51,520
I have one. So, I'm just thinking very

575
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,200
similar and I appreciate the mayor for

576
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,799
asking reading my mind and asking a

577
00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:57,520
similar question. Um, I think sometimes

578
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,880
and you and I both know this from, you

579
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,880
know, being in politics is that uh

580
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,880
people don't understand the process.

581
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:08,400
>> And so, I guess I'm wondering like in a dream hypothetical scenario, you

582
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,640
collect all your senators an excessive

583
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,000
amount. It's on the ballot. It passes.

584
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,120
What happens then? What's the plan?

585
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,000
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, I think

586
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,200
>> after town meeting day,

587
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,600
>> the the really the the only thing that

588
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,480
the um if it passes, it would be

589
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,200
advising you, the city council, to

590
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,760
inform the legislature, that they should

591
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,679
be imposing a tax on the top 5% of

592
00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:34,080
income earners in order to fund robust

593
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,400
social programming. Um, so again, it's it's

594
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,120
really a demonstration of its popularity

595
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:42,960
and it's not the thing itself. Um, and

596
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,320
again, I've tried to be really clear

597
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,760
with everybody as we're talking. And

598
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,000
again, these these um these uh ballot

599
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,840
measures are one part of a larger

600
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,159
campaign. Um and this is just one of the

601
00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:57,440
ways that the the coalition um is trying

602
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,280
to, you know, make this a really visible

603
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,280
thing and activate and mobilize people

604
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,120
to sort of get in involved in the issue.

605
00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:09,110
>> Thank you.

606
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:10,559
» I don't think so. I was looking for the

607
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:12,000
board to found it.

608
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,280
>> Perfect. All right. All right. Well,

609
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,720
we'll hear from you again when you've

610
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,600
got your signatures.

611
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,520
>> Amazing. Thank you so much.

612
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,840
>> Thank you.

613
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,880
>> All right. So, um we will move on to our

614
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,799
next item. Discussion approval fiscal

615
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:28,080
year 2028 budget goal setting. Uh Angela

616
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,679
and Elaine.

617
00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:30,640
>> Yes, I will.

618
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,159
>> Oh, I'm sorry.

619
00:23:32,159 --> 00:23:33,919
>> Um if you want to leave something

620
00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:35,919
behind, uh then councilors can choose to

621
00:23:35,919 --> 00:23:37,039
sign it once we're done.

622
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:38,880
>> Yes, absolutely.

623
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,080
>> Don't want to put any of them on the

624
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,840
spot while we're still still filming

625
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,720
here. Yeah. Yeah. I will uh

626
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,559
>> I'll leave some materials in that.

627
00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:47,840
>> Yeah. Sorry. Thank you.

628
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,799
>> Oh, no. You're good. Uh yes. So, staff

629
00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:53,360
asked for your direction uh to council

630
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,679
as we work to build the proposed budget

631
00:23:55,679 --> 00:23:57,600
over the next three months. My

632
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,679
recommendation is that city council

633
00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:02,159
continues the strategic investment

634
00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:04,159
approach to budgeting that you have that

635
00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:08,640
the council has began with the 2024 2023

636
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,159
2024 budget. A strategic investment

637
00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:14,320
budget allows for updating costs for

638
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,640
existing services and allocating

639
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,200
additional resources to priority areas,

640
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,440
particularly deferred maintenance and

641
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,400
underst staffing. In contrast to a

642
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,640
strategic investment budget would be a

643
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,039
level services budget that would be

644
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:31,440
allowing for costs for existing services

645
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,400
to be updated for estimated inflation

646
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,200
and cost of living increases but would

647
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,159
not increase investment in any area to

648
00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:42,960
continue catching up on deficiencies.

649
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,240
Uh again in contrast to a strategic

650
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,840
investment approach would be a level

651
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,480
funded budget meaning the same dollar

652
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,240
amount as this year. That would

653
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,840
essentially mean reducing the budget

654
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,320
because of course inflation forecasts

655
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,039
indicate next year's dollars will likely

656
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:01,840
be worth less than this year's.

657
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,520
The reason I recommend a strategic

658
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,440
investment approach to budgeting is

659
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,520
because the city's strategic vision

660
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,919
statement in its current comprehensive

661
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:12,000
plan is that the community wants to

662
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,960
ensure that Wooki is a livable, diverse,

663
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,520
and affordable community.

664
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,919
uh staff meaning mostly Angela um have

665
00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:21,840
provided quite a bit of contextual

666
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,000
information uh in the memo that was

667
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,480
provided in your packet. I'll highlight

668
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,159
just a couple of those points from that.

669
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:31,520
Now one sometimes we hear that Wooki has

670
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,159
a very high tax rate compared to area

671
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:36,880
municipalities. While true the tax rate

672
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,720
isn't really useful for understanding

673
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,200
affordability, what matters is how much

674
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,279
households in Wooki are paying in

675
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:45,760
property taxes in terms of an amount.

676
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,000
and they are paying a comparable amount

677
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,559
in taxes as in other comparable

678
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:52,240
municipalities.

679
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,480
The second point of context I wanted to

680
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,960
highlight is that thanks to a lower than

681
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,600
anticipated health insurance increase,

682
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,919
we are expecting a lower than recently

683
00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:04,640
typical tax rate increase needed for

684
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,120
just level services.

685
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,120
And remember that benefits and wages

686
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,360
make up about twothirds of the budget

687
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:14,000
because the city provides services which

688
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,720
are u mostly what we do is we provide

689
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,640
services and services are performed by

690
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,720
people.

691
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,679
So any questions about the context or my

692
00:26:23,679 --> 00:26:26,400
recommendation uh before I turn it back

693
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,799
to council for your discussion on my rep

694
00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:31,279
recommendation that council direct staff

695
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:33,600
to develop a strategic investment budget

696
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,240
for fiscal year 2028. Thank you very

697
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,440
much, Elena. The one question I have,

698
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,440
well, I have many questions, but one

699
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,200
before we start talking is in in the

700
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,880
past council's directed what we thought

701
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,520
that strategic investment should be. Do

702
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,400
you have an area where you were planning

703
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,760
on recommending that strategic

704
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,840
investment should be or your hope is

705
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,960
that we will just pick one?

706
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,520
uh we are

707
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,240
in the process of looking through our uh

708
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,279
budgets now. So it's I would say it's

709
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:09,360
like

710
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:11,919
steady as she goes sort of a thing. Um

711
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:14,799
continuing what we've been doing not uh

712
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:16,960
and I would actually request that

713
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,360
council well of course if you have very

714
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:20,720
strong opinions that we need to know

715
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,039
them uh but I would like council to

716
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:26,080
consider what we have to propose.

717
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,480
>> That is fair enough.

718
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,960
Um, anybody else have any preliminary

719
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,840
questions?

720
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,880
>> I don't know about questions,

721
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,400
have comments?

722
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,440
>> Sure.

723
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,080
>> Um, I will share that just this within

724
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,760
the last two weeks since we met, I did

725
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,159
have a a resident complain to me about

726
00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:49,440
the tax taxes um that they're seeing

727
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,600
already this year. So, I'm sure

728
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,919
>> um I I appreciate the memo and you know

729
00:27:55,919 --> 00:28:00,720
the mentioning the average inflation um

730
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760
is higher than the average tax increase

731
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,159
um but also

732
00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:08,799
your comment tying that back to what

733
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:12,320
folks are paying um as it relates to the

734
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,120
comps. Um

735
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,480
I I think that

736
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,760
it's this is the budget period is one of

737
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,159
the most difficult times um of being

738
00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:28,240
personally for being a city counselor

739
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,679
because there's so many things we want

740
00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:36,880
to do and so many difficult choices that we need to make and um also sitting

741
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,440
on the reality of what the lived

742
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,480
experience is for our residents. So,

743
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,720
>> um, just want to acknowledge that it's

744
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,360
the beginning of another very difficult

745
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,600
annual conversation. Um, and to lead

746
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,880
with like I know that staff put an

747
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,200
immense amount of work into and thought

748
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,720
into this. So, um, I appreciate that.

749
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,360
Um, this is my sixth budget cycle. Um,

750
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,120
so I apologize in advance for all the

751
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,919
questions that I asked.

752
00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:12,240
We love your questions, R.

753
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,760
>> Um,

754
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,720
thank you. So,

755
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,320
I too would recommend that we think

756
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,080
about a strategic investment in our

757
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,720
budget, um, I think that a level

758
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,279
services or level funded budget,

759
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:29,440
although it may be appealing

760
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,399
financially, actually shortcuts the city

761
00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:36,960
in the long run. I think a lot of why we

762
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,640
have so many things that we have want

763
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,600
that we want to do and some would say

764
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,080
need to do depending on the area is

765
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,799
because for a very long time the people

766
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:50,640
who sat at this table had a mentality of

767
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,640
wanting to keep the tax rate as low as

768
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,000
possible.

769
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,559
>> Um they had their reasons for that. I

770
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:58,480
don't say they're right or wrong. Uh,

771
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,880
but what it did mean is that that list

772
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,960
that we see every year um during Elena's

773
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,279
presentation of all of the things we

774
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:08,880
have to do and she's not going to

775
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,240
recommend continues to grow for that

776
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,919
very reason. Um, I think that, you know,

777
00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:16,960
we're going we're going to talk about

778
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,679
this a little later tonight, but I

779
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:22,640
believe we all hear from residents

780
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,640
that they're paying too much in taxes,

781
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,320
but we also hear that they want roads

782
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,520
fixed, that they want sidewalks fixed, that uh people are speeding down

783
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,799
their road and they wish that there was

784
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:35,679
a cop sitting there to get them, that

785
00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:38,080
they wish that the pool was open uh

786
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,039
longer hours, etc., etc., etc.

787
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:42,960
Unfortunately, all of those things cost

788
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,360
money to do. Um, and you all have told

789
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,039
me that even when you tell people that

790
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:51,200
these things cost money, uh, they still

791
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,760
want them even though they don't want to

792
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,240
pay the extra taxes. So, that's our job

793
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,760
at the end of the day is to find that

794
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,480
balance. I think in doing a strategic

795
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,480
investment that's the conversation we

796
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,919
can have is how much are we increasing

797
00:31:05,919 --> 00:31:10,399
or not increasing but to not put

798
00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:12,240
any

799
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,919
increase well there's always an increase

800
00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:15,760
actually because costs go up. So even if

801
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,039
we're level funded we're still raising

802
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,279
the tax rate at some point but we're not

803
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:20,880
then having a conversation about what

804
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,760
investments we need to do. And then I

805
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,760
think in that we are hurting our

806
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,840
residents. If we, you know, have this

807
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,159
conversation, we say we can do an extra

808
00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:32,799
5% in investments, we'll have to explain

809
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:34,880
what that means. If we say we can only

810
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,039
do a 0.05%

811
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:39,279
investments, we'll explain what that

812
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,919
means. But I think we should at least

813
00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:44,720
have the opportunity to explain those

814
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,919
the raise as opposed to not showing

815
00:31:47,919 --> 00:31:50,640
anything to our residents who want and

816
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:58,080
deserve honestly. um more services and more out of city hall. So

817
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,799
that would be my recommendation for this

818
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:02,880
body. I'd love to hear what you all

819
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,070
think.

820
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,440
» Well, I want to first say the the memo

821
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,240
is beautifully done. So kudos to Angela

822
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,840
because I thoroughly enjoyed reading

823
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,559
this. Um

824
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,279
I uh I'm looking for a little history. I

825
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:21,279
uh

826
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:22,720
what was the last time we did a level

827
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,120
services budget and I'm just kind of

828
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,240
curious. Yeah,

829
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,799
>> level services budget would have been

830
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,279
I've been on council for five years,

831
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:37,679
four years, the year before I came on

832
00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:40,159
so

833
00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:43,519
>> Angela I would pitch that to Angela for

834
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:46,240
an accurate answer.

835
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,320
I'm sorry. I don't know when

836
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,360
specifically we had considered level

837
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,960
services. I know that we have been

838
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,760
adding staff over the last several

839
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,600
years. Um, and that's really been the

840
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,600
investment. It may have been since

841
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,720
before Jesse Baker was city manager that

842
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,880
we did a level services budget. And

843
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,840
honestly, uh, in my early tenure with

844
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,600
the city, it wasn't even a level

845
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,480
services budget. we were given a fixed

846
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,559
percentage that we were allowed to

847
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,720
increase the tax rate by and we had to

848
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,919
fit um all of the services within that

849
00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:23,760
amount.

850
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,519
>> Yeah. And that's the closest that I

851
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:30,549
remember since I've been on council.

852
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,480
» And have we ever sorry have we ever done

853
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,519
a level funded service?

854
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:36,640
>> Level funded budget.

855
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,000
Sorry.

856
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,799
Uh not sure what you mean by level

857
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:43,360
funded.

858
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,360
>> Oh, just like the same dollar amount.

859
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:45,760
Yeah,

860
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,840
>> never. Not in my history here. It's

861
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,159
usually when they did set a percentage,

862
00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:52,320
it was 1 and a half to 2% that they

863
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,640
would set as an escalator just because

864
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,440
we are locked into union contracts that

865
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,640
require um pay increases and then uh

866
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,000
annual benefits increase as well. So,

867
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,080
it'd be very very difficult to absorb

868
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,040
that within a fixed dollar amount.

869
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:18,069
Okay, thank you.

870
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:19,520
» I have comment.

871
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,760
>> No,

872
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,560
>> I I I I appreciate the memo. I think

873
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,040
it's beautifully written as well. Um and

874
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,440
I would be interested in looking at a um

875
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,240
strategic investment. Um, bearing in

876
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:35,200
mind how often we do hear that taxes are

877
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,960
high and there are many people on fixed

878
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,240
budgets, but I would be interested in

879
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,159
looking at the things on the still the

880
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,320
to-do list and seeing what we can cross

881
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:52,069
off. That's awesome.

882
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:54,159
» I mean, I have lots of thoughts, but

883
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:55,919
>> you can share your thought. I mean, I

884
00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:58,320
just this is warrant for an approval, so

885
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,160
we do have to direct something at the

886
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,280
end of this.

887
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,119
>> Um, I mean, I I support uh strategic

888
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:06,000
investment. Okay.

889
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,359
>> If that's what you're looking for,

890
00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:09,520
>> I believe that is what the degree,

891
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,320
that's what you're looking for right

892
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,800
now. The degree we'll discuss. degree of

893
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,960
strategic investment I have a lot more

894
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,640
thoughts about but um yes I I don't

895
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,240
believe that level funding is feasible

896
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:27,359
and I I don't think level services also

897
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:30,960
are feasible. Um

898
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,599
there's a lot that will go into what

899
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,599
exactly strategic investment looks like

900
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:37,040
and that's just a discussion that'll

901
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,280
play out for the next four months.

902
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,359
>> Exactly.

903
00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:44,000
There's lots of things. So, yes, better

904
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,240
discuss it in public than behind staff

905
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:47,680
doors,

906
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,720
>> Mayor,

907
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:49,680
>> please.

908
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,359
>> I agree with everything that the deputy

909
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:54,160
mayor just said, and obviously, as the

910
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,280
mayor indicated, we'll be talking about

911
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,920
this later tonight, but I do just want

912
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:04,000
to highlight that my hope is that like we as a council, right, I

913
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,760
remember when this is my second budget

914
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,880
season cycle, whatever we call it. Um,

915
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,800
and I remember someone described it to

916
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,119
me so beautifully, which is that like we

917
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:16,320
vote as council to adopt the budget and

918
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,280
then we like go out into the community.

919
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,200
And my hope is is that no matter the

920
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,200
outcome of what the budget h what

921
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,520
happens is that we really engage in

922
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,200
those conversations so that then when

923
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,640
someone comes to us, right, someone will

924
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,240
still come to us and say, "You guys ever

925
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,119
talked to you know, whatever. That

926
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:33,200
always happens. But just the idea that

927
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,720
like

928
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,720
starting sooner rather than later and

929
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:38,240
just having these conversations, I think

930
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:39,680
can be really helpful. And I know I

931
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,119
wasn't on council yet at this time of

932
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,200
last year. So even just having them now,

933
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,599
I think I can only assume is helpful for

934
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:47,680
you and the staff and and for us. So I

935
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,119
just appreciate that. But I'm just

936
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,960
hopeful that we as the communicators

937
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,240
around the budget can also just

938
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:53,440
understand that no matter what happens,

939
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,680
it's then, you know, our role to take it

940
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,270
really seriously.

941
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,640
» You want

942
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,720
Oh, I also support strategic investment.

943
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,640
I was looking for history to see last

944
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,079
time we haven't done one.

945
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:07,280
>> Okay. I was wondering if you're going to

946
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,800
be like, "It's been a long time. We're

947
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:15,430
doing mobile."

948
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,520
» Um, okay. Awesome. Um,

949
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:27,510
in that case,

950
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,079
is there a specific class? No. Okay. Um,

951
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,640
I will seek a motion to direct Elaine

952
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,640
and staff to begin the budget work on a

953
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,560
strategic investment budget.

954
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,560
>> So moved, seconded.

955
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,680
>> All those in favor?

956
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,280
>> I wonderful.

957
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,240
>> Thank you so much.

958
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,599
>> Thank you. Um,

959
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,760
>> call.

960
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,200
>> Yes.

961
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,480
>> All right. So, there are some memos in

962
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,760
the packet. The I'll just pick out a

963
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,520
couple of

964
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,560
It flopped away. It's still alive. Okay.

965
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,000
>> Well, if it was a person, that would be

966
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,280
a completely different thing. So, I was

967
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,800
like, is that a person or is that a

968
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,200
bird? Sorry. Bird. We can keep going.

969
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,599
>> Poor thing. All right. Uh, so there are

970
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:16,000
some memos in the council packet. Um,

971
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,680
I'll pick out a few highlights from each

972
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,440
one. for cross cutting meaning

973
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,680
tasks that affect more than one vision

974
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,920
area of the comprehensive plan. We've

975
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,000
got CC5 regarding cross cutting five

976
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,400
goal five or task five rather uh

977
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,839
regarding parking revenues for the

978
00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:37,599
Cascades garage.

979
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:39,440
>> We have a trickle of inquiries. Don't

980
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,760
know yet that we will make our financing

981
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,079
deadline so to speak, but we'll keep

982
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:45,680
working on it. I don't currently have an

983
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,599
ask of council but keeping you in the

984
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,640
loop and uh thank you to Angela who's

985
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,400
been very helpful in managing the single

986
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,480
vehicle inquiries.

987
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,520
Maybe we will get there that way.

988
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,880
um economic vitality for the first

989
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,760
action there. Community lay the

990
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,040
community lays on for the Burlington

991
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,560
Wooki bridge replacement project uh that

992
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,800
was hired thanks to generosity from the

993
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,880
Vermont Agency of Transportation and

994
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,599
their foresight in seeing how that work

995
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:19,359
that position worked in Mbury and

996
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:22,240
recommending it to us. the person that

997
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,440
um our owner's representative on the

998
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,280
project at um which is H&TB the firm the

999
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,520
person that they hired as a Wooki local

1000
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,079
his name is Tim CC he's been phenomenal

1001
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:35,760
he's basically been on the job for a

1002
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,560
year now which is wild uh in a part-time

1003
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,400
capacity he's been facilitating an

1004
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,520
advisory group uh task force on business

1005
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,160
engagement both in Burlington and Muski

1006
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,880
representatives from both places um as

1007
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,480
well as representatives from the Vermont

1008
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,400
agency in transportation. It's really

1009
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,640
been heartening to see how much how

1010
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,960
supportive uh the state is and the

1011
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,280
region partners are. And he's drafted a

1012
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,680
business engagement support plan which I

1013
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,520
reviewed the second draft of yesterday

1014
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,960
when we were tableabling at the farmers

1015
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,400
market which was a beautiful day for

1016
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,960
that. Anyway, so the point being like

1017
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,040
progress is being made. I really wish we

1018
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,720
knew that we could do something like

1019
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:16,400
this before the main street project but

1020
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,320
we do know now and that is partly why we

1021
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,000
have Tim now. So,

1022
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,920
>> uh, that's been that's been really good

1023
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,079
and looking forward to some good

1024
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:26,079
strategies. He's been really making the

1025
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,160
rounds with the business community,

1026
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,440
>> uh, most of our business community,

1027
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,960
honestly, because it's within kind of

1028
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,280
the impact shed, if you will. Uh, most

1029
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,320
of the city is in that impact shed. So,

1030
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,160
um, and he's gotten some very useful

1031
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,800
feedback and has a sort of an activating

1032
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,720
effect on the business community, which

1033
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,160
is great.

1034
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,119
Somebody uh one of the news agencies

1035
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,680
that interviewed me ahead of the ribbon

1036
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,040
cutting. I don't think it made it in,

1037
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,839
but they asked me um what is it that

1038
00:40:55,839 --> 00:40:57,520
Oh dear, I've just lost track of what it

1039
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,079
was.

1040
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:01,920
Oh, actually I think it was during the

1041
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,640
ribbon cutting. Anyway, the question was

1042
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,720
um what do you think it would have taken

1043
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,960
to um engage the business community

1044
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,760
ahead of time? And I was like I think

1045
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,599
honestly was doing another project of a

1046
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:16,000
similar scale then subsequently people

1047
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,560
like oh this is how bad it could be. So

1048
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,319
again the business community now is much

1049
00:41:20,319 --> 00:41:22,240
more aware of what could happen and

1050
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:25,760
thankfully we have this year-long um

1051
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,319
year-long break where people can

1052
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:33,119
hopefully shore up their reserves and to work through the the more impactful

1053
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:35,359
years to come

1054
00:41:35,359 --> 00:41:37,280
for your economic vitality too. the

1055
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,319
second task there, the economic mobility

1056
00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:42,800
manager. Just want to read off the

1057
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,560
bullets there on the activities that

1058
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,720
she's been facilitating. Um, again, that

1059
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,280
person's name is Simone Bedford. She is

1060
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,960
hosted by the Chen County Regional

1061
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,440
Planning Commission. In the three focus

1062
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,079
areas for that uh program for

1063
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:57,599
entrepreneurship,

1064
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:01,280
the four community partners, South

1065
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,000
Burlington, uh Wooki, Essex Junction and

1066
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Shelburn uh delivered the first workshop

1067
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,280
of a business networking and learning

1068
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,640
series on in August that was quite well

1069
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,560
attended especially for our first time.

1070
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,119
We're very encouraged uh for governance

1071
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,119
participation. That track uh we are

1072
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:21,280
developing a a community academy

1073
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,359
program. Excited about that. It'll

1074
00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:25,040
hopefully help people get more engaged

1075
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,440
in all kinds of governance. One of the

1076
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,880
outcomes might be engagement in

1077
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,240
commissions, but that's of course not

1078
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,000
the end all and be all, but that will be

1079
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,040
a nice outcome. Uh regular economic

1080
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,640
mobility, communities of practice

1081
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,599
meetings for each focus area is another

1082
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:42,960
activity. So been great to have that uh

1083
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,119
person working with our across our

1084
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:47,359
communities.

1085
00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:50,720
And then uh the last memo was on equity.

1086
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:52,160
This is my quarterly update on our

1087
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,000
equity efforts. This is always in the

1088
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,599
crosscutting goals. Um a few highlights

1089
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:00,960
here that are um related to housing are

1090
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,800
actually kind of the I would call the

1091
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,640
main star of this show, but I don't want

1092
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,480
to steal our housing initi director's

1093
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,400
thunder. Her goal update is coming up.

1094
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,200
So can wait look forward to that. The

1095
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,560
one note I'll make from the equity

1096
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,839
update memo is that Paul Sarn our

1097
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:17,920
communications director has been doing a

1098
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,920
great job maintaining the language

1099
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,359
access procedure um per the procedure

1100
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:26,319
and for example doing he's just finished

1101
00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:28,400
the first update of the language list

1102
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,760
with the help of the school district

1103
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,480
which is also in the procedure

1104
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,240
and that's all I had unless you had any

1105
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:35,760
questions about that.

1106
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,160
>> Great. Thank you very much. Um, I don't

1107
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,640
have any questions. Council,

1108
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,760
>> um, just a couple short things. Uh, do

1109
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,680
you know if the engagement draft

1110
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,720
engagement plan is posted to the VR site

1111
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:50,800
or where that is available for folks to

1112
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,440
review?

1113
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,000
>> Uh, no. Once it is, it's going through

1114
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,319
I think it's with VR right now and then

1115
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:01,119
it'll go through the task force and then

1116
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,200
it'll actually I'm not sure what the

1117
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,800
publication plan is after that, but

1118
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,240
that's where it is right now.

1119
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,359
>> Okay.

1120
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:13,200
Um, unrelated to that, um, I was doing

1121
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,319
the, uh, annual trek for some foliage

1122
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:18,880
leaf peeping this weekend. I happened to

1123
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,480
notice a municipality also seeking

1124
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,599
public comment for their um, draft plan

1125
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:28,240
and they had posted yard signs

1126
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:32,720
throughout town with QR codes. Um, so as

1127
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:36,880
a I I think that's been an a strategy

1128
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,040
utilized for some of the active

1129
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,800
transportation. I'm not going to get the

1130
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,520
language right, but um soliciting

1131
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,440
feedback on uh transportation

1132
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,040
improvements um in and around Wooki. So,

1133
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,560
uh that was just something that caught

1134
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,480
my eye in addition to the beautiful

1135
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,839
foliage that um is around Vermont right

1136
00:44:55,839 --> 00:44:58,800
now. But um it felt noteworthy um since

1137
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,400
this doesn't seem to be a strategy that

1138
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,480
we've used and I don't know uh what the

1139
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,400
current response rate is since it seems

1140
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,560
to be predominantly

1141
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,880
uh digital digitally uh solicited

1142
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:13,839
feedback.

1143
00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:15,280
>> Sure. Yeah, I'll check in with Robie

1144
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,960
about that. And just for the public

1145
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,560
awareness, I think council knows this.

1146
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,520
we were well you should because it

1147
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,400
was an agenda some time ago though. Um

1148
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,160
the strategy for this for the outreach

1149
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,920
for this particular comprehensive plan

1150
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,319
is more of a it's more of an update

1151
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:32,960
process because we could tell that the

1152
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,440
themes are generally still the themes.

1153
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,680
So it's really tweaking and updating the

1154
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,000
plan as opposed to kind of reimagining

1155
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,760
from scratch. Um so we haven't put in

1156
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,760
like a full court press effort. The

1157
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,040
other reason is because we've actually

1158
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,119
surveyed this community a lot recently.

1159
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:51,200
So we didn't want to get put people

1160
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,960
through fatigue. Of course, that sort of

1161
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,520
thing is more passive and might be inc

1162
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,359
um seen favorably. So, I'll check in

1163
00:45:57,359 --> 00:45:58,880
with the planning director about that.

1164
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,480
>> Yeah, just creative ways to help um get

1165
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,440
some more awareness and um potentially

1166
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,119
feedback. So, that was something that

1167
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:10,560
stood out to me. Um and then

1168
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,240
>> it's funny once what you notice once

1169
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:13,839
you're in government.

1170
00:46:13,839 --> 00:46:17,589
>> You would be surprised.

1171
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:20,000
Probably not.

1172
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,880
Um,

1173
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,599
I would love to hear more updates. Um,

1174
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:31,359
I'm not sure when the uh safe healthy

1175
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:34,400
connected update is scheduled. Um, but

1176
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,440
I'd love to hear more about how the uh

1177
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,359
move to and with the mayor's approval um

1178
00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:43,680
the move to have the senior center

1179
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,760
position full-time, how that's

1180
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,119
progressing. I know we're only a

1181
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:51,200
you know, a first quarter in, but kind

1182
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,040
of want to keep a a pulse on that since

1183
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,800
that's something that we invested in for

1184
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,520
this fiscal year and it will be in

1185
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,920
informative in the budget moving

1186
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:00,720
forward.

1187
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:02,800
>> Sure, I will check in with Ray about

1188
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,520
that. Okay.

1189
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,599
>> Um, and then there is a little bit of

1190
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:08,800
there's a hint of it if you compare the

1191
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,599
senior center activity list from the

1192
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:14,079
current newsletter to like a few months

1193
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:15,520
ago.

1194
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,319
>> Yeah.

1195
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:21,670
>> Thank you.

1196
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,880
Um, yeah. So, I'm looking at the the

1197
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,960
Cascades garage. It's been an ongoing

1198
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,920
challenge for the last few quarters. Um,

1199
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,079
do you foresee bringing anything to

1200
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:34,880
council about doing a different approach

1201
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,760
for stabilizing the fund?

1202
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,920
>> It might I might have to.

1203
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,560
>> Okay.

1204
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,760
>> Yeah.

1205
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,520
>> I'm not there yet, but yeah, I might

1206
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,079
have to.

1207
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:45,839
>> Okay.

1208
00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:48,240
Do you know what the last number is of

1209
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,319
how many leases or how many spots are

1210
00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:51,520
need to be leased?

1211
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,839
>> I think we're

1212
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:58,319
we Angela able to um finalize four more.

1213
00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:01,280
So I guess we're down to 207 instead of

1214
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,160
211. We had a couple of inquiries come

1215
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,599
in over the weekend. I don't think

1216
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:08,880
either any of them have um

1217
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,359
actually been finalized yet. They've not

1218
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:13,839
been finalized, but we we've got quite a

1219
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:17,280
few individuals looking from uh the

1220
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,319
Riverhouse and Riverrun properties

1221
00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:23,040
um that are parking a little bit further

1222
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,839
away right now.

1223
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:27,680
>> I know we communicated with landlords.

1224
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,160
Have we considered doing like a like a

1225
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,160
mass mailing to

1226
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,760
>> Yeah, we actually did that um earlier

1227
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,400
this summer. We did a mass mailing and

1228
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,200
had pretty much zero responses, but we

1229
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,040
do have emails for most of them. So, I

1230
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,240
sent out an email to everybody with two

1231
00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:48,720
or more units, which is the whole

1232
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,680
registry. Um, that we hadn't already

1233
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,359
been in touch with. We did that last

1234
00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:57,280
week. And then I sent a follow-up today

1235
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,480
to those that are within a half mile of

1236
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,079
the garageish.

1237
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:02,400
>> Yeah.

1238
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,920
I picked streets because it was

1239
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,359
harder to narrow down. So,

1240
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:07,520
>> Okay. There's some streets that are some

1241
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,800
parts of streets where people are

1242
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,359
further away.

1243
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:11,119
>> Yeah. And that was to the landlords or

1244
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:11,599
to the

1245
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:12,559
>> to landlords. Yeah.

1246
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:14,000
>> But I was talking about to

1247
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,680
>> Oh, to the tenants individual like

1248
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:16,800
residents

1249
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,000
>> cuz I recalling a conversation that

1250
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,119
happened at the end of the ribbon

1251
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,440
cutting where a landlord mentioned need

1252
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,760
resident their tenants needing parking,

1253
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,040
but I don't know if they followed up

1254
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,880
with you on getting that parking. So, I

1255
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,319
wonder if like maybe the landlords

1256
00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:34,800
aren't communicating it too much. So, if

1257
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,520
we could go right to the tenants, maybe

1258
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,640
we'd see an update.

1259
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,240
>> That is a good thought. Yeah, that's a

1260
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,640
good point. So, I'm not sure if we can

1261
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,079
do this. It's easy to do a mass mailing

1262
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:48,319
to every address, but that would be

1263
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:50,319
>> probably very frowned upon by most of

1264
00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:52,400
the people getting it. Um, but if there

1265
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,880
was a way to narrow down to u probably a

1266
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,520
quarter of a mile and email everybody,

1267
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,599
that would or mail to everybody, that

1268
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:02,400
would probably be worth doing.

1269
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,520
um just like my own mailings. Um I think

1270
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,079
you can wooi is just one zip code

1271
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:09,839
obviously but you can

1272
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:12,640
>> narrow down by some sections

1273
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,000
>> from what I understand.

1274
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,240
>> Okay, I'll look into that. Thank you.

1275
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:22,150
>> Thanks for bringing that up.

1276
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,359
» Yeah, I just want to say this is a very

1277
00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:25,359
difficult task and I don't envy your

1278
00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:28,640
position of trying to find uh customers.

1279
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,680
So, um, thank you for your work.

1280
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,119
>> Yeah, thank you. Um, yeah, this this was

1281
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:36,640
some of the math that was going through

1282
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,839
my head when we were negotiating about

1283
00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:44,000
rates in with one larger user and I was

1284
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,760
like, could I rent out this money? I

1285
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,760
don't know. But yeah, had to reach a

1286
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,760
uncomfortable compromise, which is a

1287
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,359
sign that it was a good one. Like both

1288
00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:55,040
of us weren't particularly thrilled, but

1289
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,760
we're okay with it. So yeah, now I'm

1290
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,599
dealing with my own decisions

1291
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:03,280
>> or technically recommendations to

1292
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:08,470
council, but yes, certainly.

1293
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,839
» Okay, thank you.

1294
00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:10,400
>> Thank you.

1295
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,640
>> All right, our last item of the night,

1296
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,240
discussion, approval, council engagement

1297
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:16,640
on city budget. Council Turos, I

1298
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,400
>> feel like we're doing great this evening

1299
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,079
on time. Um, I'm deeply appreciative to

1300
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,800
everyone for putting this on the agenda.

1301
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,520
I also just noticed a typo, so I ap Oh,

1302
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,119
no, this is right. 2027. Sorry, I don't

1303
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:32,880
know what days are. Um, so the memo is

1304
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,240
shared with you all. It's also shared

1305
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:37,359
with the public. Um, I've been sort of

1306
00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:39,040
like talking about this for a long time,

1307
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,880
but I think I just wanted to and also

1308
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,400
with the nudge of the mayor and the city

1309
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,440
manager. Um, wanted to sort of bring

1310
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,319
this out into as James Bald as James

1311
00:51:48,319 --> 00:51:49,680
Baldwin says, sunlight is the best

1312
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,280
disinfectant. And so just having a

1313
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,200
conversation in the open air about

1314
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,000
how hard it is for our neighbors, I'm

1315
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,920
trying not to use absolutist language,

1316
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,680
how difficult it can be to understand a

1317
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,160
budget. And I know before I joined city

1318
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,079
council, I had like no idea what a

1319
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,000
municipal, local government, city budget

1320
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,400
entailed, all of the line items, right?

1321
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,240
And I had like been a part of and or run

1322
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,160
like multi-million dollar nonprofits.

1323
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,160
Obviously, a city is like nothing like

1324
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,400
it. And last year I was so new to the

1325
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,240
budget process that I just was trying to

1326
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:29,839
be like don't mess up. Um and this year

1327
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:31,680
I'm really

1328
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,880
um pushing myself forward and as an

1329
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,720
elected official on city council wanting

1330
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:38,160
to like live and operationalize my

1331
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,520
values and therefore I believe also

1332
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,839
shared values of our neighbors. And so

1333
00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:42,960
one of the things that I have been

1334
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,000
thinking about and this literally

1335
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,720
happened on the birdwalk is

1336
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:49,280
um myself and a neighbor and her young

1337
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,000
child were there and she was saying like

1338
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,599
wow I just feel like there's so many

1339
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,440
things like happening in Manuski all of

1340
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,520
a sudden and I literally turned to her

1341
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,599
and I said oh you know what insert name

1342
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,359
here I said this is a great thing for

1343
00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:02,800
you to come and talk about at a budget

1344
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,119
meeting because what you're noticing is

1345
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:08,160
a literal um

1346
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,760
uh employment position that was like we

1347
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,000
talked about in budget last year, it was

1348
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,400
approved. It's now been implemented and

1349
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,680
you can tangibly see it. And so one of

1350
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,760
the things that I've been really in a

1351
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,400
loving way is pushing residents to say

1352
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,880
like if you see something right the

1353
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,640
opposite of NYPD, if you see something,

1354
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,359
say something. And wanting us space is

1355
00:53:31,359 --> 00:53:34,640
unhappy and wanting us to really just

1356
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,400
notice what our city what's happening in

1357
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,079
our city. But then I also understand

1358
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:39,599
that there are so many folks in our city

1359
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:42,319
who like cannot come to a city council

1360
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:45,280
meeting. Um by the time that we get to

1361
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,000
them for council and community, the

1362
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,319
budget has already been passed. They

1363
00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:52,240
have questions, etc. And so I guess I

1364
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:54,000
just am like throwing spaghetti at the

1365
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,720
wall. And I'm really just saying like

1366
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,280
what can we do? We don't have to do any

1367
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,559
of the things in this, but I'm just

1368
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:03,280
wanting to have a conversation around

1369
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,160
how can we help our neighbors and some

1370
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,520
of like right some of the people who

1371
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,359
live in our homes to better understand

1372
00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:12,079
our budget and what these decisions mean

1373
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,760
and to connect it to say when you want

1374
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,079
us to fill in a pothole or when you want

1375
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:20,400
us to resurface a street that decision

1376
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,680
is made now. And I think it's just like

1377
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:30,870
trying to Yeah. Um, that's it.

1378
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,000
» Uh, Al, thank you. I appreciate you

1379
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,640
emailing me about this and having this

1380
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,280
conversation. You know, I think

1381
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,040
um, you know, outreach is and connecting

1382
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,280
with the community is something that we

1383
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,960
and I think all I don't want to just say

1384
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,280
we all city councils and all levels of

1385
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,440
government struggle with um, for so many

1386
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,079
reasons, right? And

1387
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:59,440
one thing that I was kind of liked to

1388
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,960
see here is I think a lot of these

1389
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,880
things we do try to do um or we in fact

1390
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,359
do do. I hate saying that. Um

1391
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:13,920
I and I I totally appreciate the

1392
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,599
sometimes it feels like maybe we've

1393
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,920
gotten to do these outreach activities

1394
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,160
too late in the process or that people

1395
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,760
have already voted. Um,

1396
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,640
and I'm not opposed in any way to trying

1397
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,440
to move some of those things up. I

1398
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,240
think,

1399
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,400
um, you know, one one important thing

1400
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,440
going into this is just remembering that

1401
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,800
we as a representative government

1402
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,359
literally should be doing this work all

1403
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:47,760
year long, right? So, like every

1404
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,799
conversation that we have throughout the

1405
00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:55,040
year is budget outreach in a way or at

1406
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,040
least should be. Um, and it's our job to

1407
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,440
be like when we're at the farmers market

1408
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,960
and we're talking to somebody to try to

1409
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,040
like tease out some of these questions.

1410
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,839
>> Mhm. Um, and I think that's kind of

1411
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:12,240
like like that's kind of what I is like

1412
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:14,240
one of the biggest parts of our role is

1413
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:16,799
like we're gathering budget information

1414
00:56:16,799 --> 00:56:18,240
all year long.

1415
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:19,599
>> And I'm not I don't I don't think that

1416
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:21,040
any of you are doing this, but like

1417
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,799
nobody's coming a week before budget and

1418
00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:24,400
being like, "Oh I think these are

1419
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,079
my these are the things that I want to

1420
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:27,680
tell Elaine I care about."

1421
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,599
>> Mhm. Like I think we're in theory like

1422
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:30,960
we're gathering that information all

1423
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,920
year and like what I you know told

1424
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,319
Elaine were my priorities or like not

1425
00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:38,319
what like Thomas Rener thinks are the

1426
00:56:38,319 --> 00:56:40,240
best things to do but like I've heard

1427
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:42,559
from enough people in the community that

1428
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,520
I think that these are the best things.

1429
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,480
Um, you know, some of them, some things

1430
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,960
I suggest will never impact me, like a

1431
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,480
playground. The playground that I

1432
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,319
suggested, like probably not going to go

1433
00:56:54,319 --> 00:56:56,000
play on the playground, but I've been

1434
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,440
told by enough people and I think that

1435
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,880
that's a good idea.

1436
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,960
>> Um,

1437
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,760
so I think like

1438
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,599
maybe trying to do some things a little

1439
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:08,799
earlier is good. I do and we we have to

1440
00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:10,640
find the balance with a particular

1441
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,359
senior care facility. But like there is

1442
00:57:13,359 --> 00:57:16,319
an importance in once we formulated the

1443
00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:19,200
budget putting that out to the community

1444
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,799
cuz I do think there's also like a

1445
00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:23,839
decent amount of people who are like

1446
00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:24,960
I don't know what should be in the

1447
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,880
budget but that's why I voted for you

1448
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,040
like you figured this out. Um,

1449
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,400
and then there's also people who are

1450
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,280
like, you know, we'll ask them,

1451
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,559
you know, what makes it harder to live

1452
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:37,839
or work in Reuski and they'll say, well,

1453
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:39,520
we need a grocery store.

1454
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,680
>> We're not going to open a grocery store

1455
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,240
unless I don't have Mandani money, so

1456
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,760
can't do that. But is it important to

1457
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,280
know they'd like a grocery store? Yes.

1458
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,400
We advocated with GMT two years ago,

1459
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,160
last year, to get up to Shaws, and

1460
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,760
they're now doing that. So

1461
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,760
>> we couldn't get a grocery store, but we

1462
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,079
were able to do the next best thing in a

1463
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,000
way, right? So we'd heard from enough

1464
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,680
people, can you open a grocery store?

1465
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:04,880
That we're

1466
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,160
like, well, what is the way we can get

1467
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,760
people to a grocery store? So it's not

1468
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,799
that that's not important feedback, but

1469
00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:12,319
we do want to be trying to make sure

1470
00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:15,040
that we're getting feedback that we can

1471
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,359
actually turn into things that us as a

1472
00:58:17,359 --> 00:58:19,680
small city can turn into a budget. So

1473
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,119
one thing I I really love and I

1474
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:22,319
definitely like to implement is this

1475
00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:24,880
Wooki Youth Budget Lab.

1476
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,160
Um, I I I think that's easy enough. I

1477
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,319
can send an email tonight if we if we

1478
00:58:30,319 --> 00:58:33,040
all would like to do that. Um, I think

1479
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,520
that for those of us who have been able

1480
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,680
to go up to the school and talk to the

1481
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,359
students there, they always have a very

1482
00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:43,760
interesting perspective. Um I or what is

1483
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,520
also enlightening is that they

1484
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,200
generally have the same perspective as

1485
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,319
adults and it's like oh wow that is so

1486
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:54,240
bad that you are talking about it as a

1487
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,319
12-year-old. So um yeah I totally love

1488
00:58:58,319 --> 00:58:58,720
that.

1489
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,079
>> I think also one of the great things

1490
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:02,000
that personally is my favorite and I one

1491
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,200
of the great things that can happen

1492
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,160
there is that students can then say when

1493
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,160
they're talking to their caregivers,

1494
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,960
siblings, etc. in the community can also

1495
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,240
say like we're working on this thing

1496
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,920
about the budget. I didn't know this,

1497
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,599
right? And then you have sort of like a

1498
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:18,720
larger potentially familial home

1499
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,599
conversation regarding the budget. Um

1500
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:23,440
and so that was the other thing is that

1501
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,720
I think it's one of those right I always

1502
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,040
think about relational organizing. Um

1503
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,400
and that that is like where community

1504
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,079
and safety is held. And I think this is

1505
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:34,000
a great way to get folks um yeah just

1506
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,040
younger to talk about.

1507
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,640
>> Yeah. The the budget game. I don't know

1508
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:39,839
if we've been able to take that to the

1509
00:59:39,839 --> 00:59:42,400
farmers market at all this season.

1510
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,599
>> Yeah, Angela did go.

1511
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:45,280
>> You did go. Okay, great. And then

1512
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,480
>> I've been twice this year.

1513
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,000
>> Oh, perfect. Okay. So, so yeah, so that

1514
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,520
is active and working. Thank you,

1515
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:57,440
Angela. Um, and I do always find that provides a decent amount of

1516
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,000
insight, but then also we have to like

1517
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,680
and the role that we have as counselors

1518
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,440
working with staff and understanding the

1519
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,079
background of it is like you'll have

1520
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:07,760
people who will put all of their dollars

1521
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,960
in one bucket.

1522
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,960
>> And then it's like, okay, again, fine

1523
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,440
for me, the public, but like we can't do

1524
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,920
that bucket without the other buckets.

1525
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,760
So, you know, a caveat, you know, you

1526
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,200
can all take from what what you would

1527
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,480
like from that, but I'll just throw that

1528
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,760
caveat out there. And then on top of

1529
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,400
this, and I I've sent it twice now, so I

1530
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,160
think you all have probably seen it, but

1531
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,839
the city paid for uh a survey to find

1532
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:36,559
what people wanted. So, to Ela's point

1533
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:38,319
of like over surveying people, we did

1534
01:00:38,319 --> 01:00:39,839
survey them once.

1535
01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:41,280
>> So, you didn't recommend a survey here,

1536
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,400
but I know we had kind of talked about

1537
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,799
it a little bit. Um, but I would just

1538
01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:49,839
recommend if you haven't had a chance to look that over to really take a dive

1539
01:00:49,839 --> 01:00:53,040
into that. Um, it was done really well.

1540
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,760
Um, and I think that there's some

1541
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,680
insightful things. I will say I think

1542
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,839
that I'm I'm proud that this group, I

1543
01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:04,720
think, is very in tune from at least our last budget discussion to already

1544
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,880
being to already reflecting what was in

1545
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,599
that survey. So, I think that what our

1546
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:11,359
community is asking for hasn't changed

1547
01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:14,640
too too much in the past few years. Um,

1548
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,200
but yeah, I I think this is I really

1549
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,400
appreciate the work that you put into

1550
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,040
this and I think we're doing some and we

1551
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,799
can definitely pick up some more. Um,

1552
01:01:24,799 --> 01:01:26,960
this is that you are the city manager.

1553
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,040
Budget exercise is fun as well.

1554
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,400
>> Yeah, I just I have seen that

1555
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,799
particularly at the community dinner so

1556
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:40,319
many um res right. It's just it's like a g it's a a central gathering space.

1557
01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:41,839
And so I thought like I'd be more than

1558
01:01:41,839 --> 01:01:43,760
happy to work a table where it's just

1559
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,319
like you are a city manager and then

1560
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:49,119
boom there's a snowstorm a water man

1561
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:50,960
breaks you your plow doesn't work

1562
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,359
anymore right and I think it's one of

1563
01:01:53,359 --> 01:01:55,680
those things that so often happens in

1564
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,440
community when you are living as a

1565
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,119
resident in a city it's just like oh

1566
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:01,359
well my parents will take care of this

1567
01:02:01,359 --> 01:02:03,040
like city council and the man and the

1568
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,200
city manager and right and they don't

1569
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,440
you and I'll say I'll speak for myself I

1570
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,240
never considered like I would be mad

1571
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,839
when the sidewalks weren't plowed, but

1572
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:13,119
then when they were plowed, I wasn't

1573
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:16,079
like, I'm so

1574
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:17,920
>> right. And so to me, it's just the idea

1575
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,920
of like having so many entry points and

1576
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,720
potential ladders of engagement and um

1577
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,880
I'm not asking members of city council

1578
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,960
to like give more capacity than you

1579
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:27,760
have.

1580
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,359
>> I'm just saying like I'm very excited

1581
01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:30,799
about this and I know that there would

1582
01:02:30,799 --> 01:02:32,640
be other people who, you know, would

1583
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,119
maybe just um be interested. And so, um,

1584
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:37,280
but I did really want to put that in

1585
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,119
there that I'm I understand that staff

1586
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:41,200
is already so maxed.

1587
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,000
>> Um, and I think it's just me ideally

1588
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,680
it's not me asking for anything more.

1589
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:46,960
It's just the idea of like let's just

1590
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,079
like tune up an equity lens maybe.

1591
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:52,240
>> Yeah. So, I think one thing that, you

1592
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,799
know, we should do

1593
01:02:54,799 --> 01:02:57,359
for sure is pick back up doing council

1594
01:02:57,359 --> 01:02:58,960
in the community.

1595
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,839
>> Um, there's a I just asked Bren, there's

1596
01:03:01,839 --> 01:03:03,760
a couple more farmers markets. We have

1597
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,280
been to the farmers market in the past.

1598
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,920
So like I'll email Sarah and see if we

1599
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,920
can get another little city booth. We've

1600
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,359
done that before. Um

1601
01:03:13,359 --> 01:03:15,280
and just really try to start doing that.

1602
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,160
I think that is a really and they're,

1603
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,839
you know, some are better attended than

1604
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:23,119
others, but um it's an easy I think it's

1605
01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:27,119
the easiest way to get us out, you know,

1606
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:28,240
and I've talked to you about this

1607
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,039
before, like I think it's important for

1608
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:33,200
us to be going to things as opposed to

1609
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,599
trying to get people to come to us.

1610
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:36,960
Obviously, there are there are ways that

1611
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,280
we do want to do that and times when we

1612
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,599
want to do that, but if we can think of

1613
01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:44,480
those ways of getting ourselves into the

1614
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:49,599
community in different ways more, um I

1615
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:53,680
think that's beneficial as well.

1616
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,390
Um I've talked a lot.

1617
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,520
Um just want to note uh thank you

1618
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,240
councelor Chos for your memo and your

1619
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:08,799
enthusiasm um and for highlighting that

1620
01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:13,440
um we're meeting people along varying

1621
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,240
degrees of continuum um with their

1622
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,640
awareness and understanding of what a

1623
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,880
city budget is, what goes into it, what

1624
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,559
are immovable and movable investments

1625
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:28,000
that that were either um optional or

1626
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,760
obligated to and the number of

1627
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,480
conversations that that I have where

1628
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,000
it's like now's a really good time.

1629
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,079
Now's a good time to provide your

1630
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:41,920
feedback. Now it's like if you wanted to

1631
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,880
know when now is now is the win.

1632
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,480
>> Um and then as you know the mayor noted

1633
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,640
just the follow-up question is just

1634
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,319
saying like I don't even I don't like I

1635
01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:55,039
don't even know where to begin. um or

1636
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:57,440
you know feeling of frustration of like

1637
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,640
well how do I even know like if it makes

1638
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,319
a difference

1639
01:05:02,319 --> 01:05:05,200
>> um and and then just feeling like they

1640
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:06,880
took the time they put the thought into

1641
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,960
it and then not feeling like it's

1642
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,119
necessarily heard because we may not be

1643
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:13,760
able to provide you know a chain grocery

1644
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,160
store in town but we have other markets

1645
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,880
in town and when we can do more to

1646
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,960
highlight that those existing services

1647
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,160
exist and advocate for the um the

1648
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,200
transit system to improve the services

1649
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:34,799
um to to those larger stores. Um so it's a

1650
01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:37,520
an ongoing educational process. It is a

1651
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:42,799
year- round process. Um and it's I think

1652
01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:45,440
the point in time actually thinking

1653
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,680
about timing.

1654
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,640
Um and I'm also spitballing here so bear

1655
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,200
with me. Um

1656
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,240
I think as the reminders for the

1657
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,480
quarterly taxes come up are when people

1658
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,079
are reminded how

1659
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:01,760
>> they're impacted by taxes.

1660
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:02,799
>> Yeah.

1661
01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:06,160
>> So obviously we just had that due this

1662
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,640
past month. um you know we're entering

1663
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,720
into the larger budget season but I

1664
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,960
think those are also touch points where

1665
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,839
folks feel that reality and it's

1666
01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:18,799
tangible of like oh right I have to pay

1667
01:06:18,799 --> 01:06:21,440
my municipal taxes now and there and

1668
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,000
that's when it's front of front of mind

1669
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,359
so I don't

1670
01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:29,359
>> I don't know in particular if there's

1671
01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:31,280
more that can go into the Wooki

1672
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,599
newsletter I I think how it's front

1673
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:36,160
porch forum or both but I think trying

1674
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,799
to catch people when the timing is front

1675
01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:40,160
of mind

1676
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,960
>> um may help with their engagement may

1677
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,680
help with their um understanding or

1678
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,440
willing to kind of focus on that

1679
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,359
conversation at that point in time.

1680
01:06:49,359 --> 01:06:53,359
>> Yeah, my update in this issue of the

1681
01:06:53,359 --> 01:06:54,880
newsletter had something about the

1682
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,440
budget and we'll continue to do that

1683
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,200
until you know

1684
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,039
>> a variation of it until election day.

1685
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:04,640
So, um, and it's actually people do read

1686
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:05,520
that, which I

1687
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:06,400
>> a lot of people do.

1688
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,400
>> Yeah.

1689
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:13,119
>> Which is great. Um,

1690
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:14,559
>> you know,

1691
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:18,720
>> I wonder um about the

1692
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,119
uh I'm going to get to the language so I

1693
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:26,880
can um the youth budget lab. I'm

1694
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,760
curious

1695
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:36,240
the the vision for execution. Um, and as

1696
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,240
a followup, um, if there's I don't know

1697
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,079
if the financial literacy courses um,

1698
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:46,079
>> and curriculum

1699
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:48,079
have an opportunity. It may it may be

1700
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:49,680
too late for this year,

1701
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,960
>> but I wonder if there's an element where

1702
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,359
that could be a tiein for a

1703
01:07:55,359 --> 01:07:56,880
year-over-year thing

1704
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,520
>> and not just a one point in time thing.

1705
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,280
>> So again, spitballing, I'll leave it

1706
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:01,680
there.

1707
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,039
>> Yeah.

1708
01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:05,359
>> Regarding execution, I had thought I

1709
01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:07,119
know both the mayor and myself and I'm

1710
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:08,640
sure others during their tenure have

1711
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,839
visited um civics classes at the school.

1712
01:08:11,839 --> 01:08:13,359
I just went on a lovely field trip with

1713
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:16,000
them to the library. Um, and so I was

1714
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,679
either thinking that we could do like

1715
01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:19,600
specific executed outreach to that

1716
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:24,000
particular um, class and or um, like

1717
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,520
tomorrow morning when I'm at the school,

1718
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,679
I might just off the cuff mention it to

1719
01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:29,440
some educators and see what they think

1720
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:31,600
and if it could work and I right I'm not

1721
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,520
an educator so I don't know what the

1722
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:34,960
level like, you know, does it need to be

1723
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,279
a senior in high school or um, but I

1724
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:38,640
think it could be helpful regarding like

1725
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,080
budgeting and money and stuff like that.

1726
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,120
So, um, my execution originally was

1727
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,120
mainly just civics classes, but I do

1728
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,040
think it could be helpful. And I know

1729
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:51,040
when we've had, um, conversations, kids

1730
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,640
oftentimes are just like, what is your

1731
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,319
job as a city counselor? Like, what do

1732
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:56,799
you do? And then to weave that into a

1733
01:08:56,799 --> 01:08:58,960
broader conversation regarding our

1734
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,480
budget, I think could be really helpful.

1735
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:03,920
>> Yeah. Will you

1736
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,520
let me just email Walmart?

1737
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,480
>> Yes. because my thought on this is I

1738
01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:09,679
don't want to narrow it just to the

1739
01:09:09,679 --> 01:09:13,679
civics classes. I'd almost like for him

1740
01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:16,319
or one of the principles to communicate

1741
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:18,560
out to like the entire population of

1742
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,400
teachers and be like

1743
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,000
>> would having city counselors come to

1744
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,159
your class be of interest

1745
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:25,600
>> and then

1746
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,640
>> cuz like I don't know a math teacher

1747
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,080
could find that interesting right if

1748
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,279
we're like going to go and talk about

1749
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:32,239
the budget.

1750
01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:35,359
>> So I don't want to like limit it to just

1751
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:36,560
because I think that's primarily who

1752
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,080
we've spoken to is the civics and like

1753
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,679
social studies classes which has been

1754
01:09:39,679 --> 01:09:42,400
great but like I don't know maybe our

1755
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,679
class will want to have us in

1756
01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:46,799
>> and we can just see

1757
01:09:46,799 --> 01:09:47,600
>> yeah I think also

1758
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,920
>> pick it up cuz I I like if we really

1759
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,920
want like a youth perspective like I

1760
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,440
think we'd want to visit like multiple

1761
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:56,080
times. So

1762
01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:00,790
>> I love

1763
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,199
that be cool.

1764
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:06,550
>> I just like

1765
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,320
» you can come visit. You can come be open

1766
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:09,920
a door open with me every morning.

1767
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,239
>> I wish I could have

1768
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:17,189
>> vis.

1769
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:19,040
» Yeah.

1770
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,640
>> Um I love the the discussion about

1771
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,640
closing the loop. I think that's a

1772
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,199
really important aspect. Um, especially

1773
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:30,000
if people do make it over hurdles to to

1774
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,719
come here or to comment or to talk to us

1775
01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:35,440
and tell us their concerns. Um, and I

1776
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:36,800
think perhaps this might be a great

1777
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,880
opportunity to start a shared document

1778
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,800
much as we do for our own questions for

1779
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,239
the budget where we collect these

1780
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:44,080
throughout the season and the responses

1781
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,000
from the city and we work on this. Is

1782
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,920
this something that we could create a

1783
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,400
shared document of? When we hear a

1784
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,000
budget question, when someone comes and

1785
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,440
talks to us, when we have a

1786
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:56,239
conversation, we add that the person's

1787
01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:58,960
name, contact information if available,

1788
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,120
and then not only do we have a shared

1789
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,880
collection of our questions over the

1790
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,480
budget season, but everyone else's

1791
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:06,320
feedback. And perhaps seeing that all

1792
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:10,080
laid out um is helpful. Um, I think

1793
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,880
perhaps it it doesn't just include us

1794
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,239
like it doesn't just limit us to be

1795
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:15,679
like, I had a conversation with someone

1796
01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:17,440
that says this. We can see it tangibly

1797
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:20,239
laid out and that also

1798
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:21,920
provides a more organized method to

1799
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,679
actually respond to people to close the

1800
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:25,520
loop to let them know we heard your

1801
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,440
question about this. This is what we

1802
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:28,880
implemented or not.

1803
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,080
>> Um, so a shared repository.

1804
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,719
>> Yeah. I'd be interested to know about

1805
01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:38,480
the staff staff oper

1806
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:40,719
staff can operate I can't speak

1807
01:11:40,719 --> 01:11:41,440
>> operationalize

1808
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:44,400
>> if staff can operationalize that because

1809
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,440
um I think if we hear from a resident

1810
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:50,400
and they say I care about X and then

1811
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,960
that becomes the budget close the loop

1812
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,280
like let them know you know that's fine

1813
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,880
but

1814
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,760
is that something staff would be able to

1815
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,920
do for folks who either come here or

1816
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,120
were right. And

1817
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,239
>> so we do have budget at wanuskivt.gov

1818
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:10,800
just live all the time. So we that's our

1819
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,760
intent with that obviously it I mean

1820
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,440
obviously to us because we only get

1821
01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:17,520
council question from council in that

1822
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,800
but that is not having the intended

1823
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,280
effect. So you know it it I'm not sure

1824
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,920
if we be able to manage it but uh that's

1825
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,719
certainly what we should be doing. So,

1826
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:32,719
let's I I think it would be fine to give

1827
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:36,560
it a try. I think the maybe the way to

1828
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:37,840
No, actually, that probably wouldn't

1829
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:38,400
work.

1830
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:39,360
>> Can I ask a question?

1831
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,520
>> Sure, Doc.

1832
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,360
>> Sorry. Um I had the same thought about

1833
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,120
the budget email and I know one of the

1834
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,800
things that I've been trying to do more

1835
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,560
recently is when someone comes when a

1836
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,159
resident or neighbor comes to me about

1837
01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:52,159
something, I literally say, "I'm so

1838
01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:53,600
grateful that you shared this with me.

1839
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:54,880
Please email the mayor and city

1840
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,280
manager." Um, and so I'm wondering if

1841
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,159
now particularly regarding budgets,

1842
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:02,960
>> if someone and I I'll just for myself if

1843
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,080
someone comes to me and says something

1844
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,840
about the budget, I'm going to say like,

1845
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,679
"Thank you for sharing." And just so

1846
01:13:07,679 --> 01:13:09,199
that we have a record of it, which I

1847
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:11,520
think is so smart, council good to just

1848
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,840
put it in that email.

1849
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:18,080
>> Yes, certainly. Also, um, I don't know

1850
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,400
how many people are actually doing that.

1851
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,719
So you might if you have the capacity

1852
01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:24,239
yourselves you might offer to write it

1853
01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:28,390
for them as an alternative.

1854
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,120
Um, we were do I was doing that with the

1855
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,880
main street. I mean, obviously this is

1856
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,960
my full-time job, so it's a it's just a

1857
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,400
little bit different, but uh with the

1858
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,520
Main Street questions, if somebody who

1859
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,920
had of course access to email had a

1860
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,679
question about Main Street, I would get

1861
01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:45,679
their email address and copy them

1862
01:13:45,679 --> 01:13:48,480
>> on the question to info at

1863
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:50,400
>> just to again make it a little bit

1864
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,960
easier for them to get the information.

1865
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>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean there also is like we are the representatives of the

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01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,880
public. So like if somebody says to you,

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01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,760
I want more sidewalk paving. Like in

1868
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,320
theory like you don't have to have the

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resident input that like

1870
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,320
>> Mhm. you are the inputter, you know, but

1871
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,520
like

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01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,480
>> um

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>> so like yeah, obviously if they want to

1874
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write it because they want it like

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01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,199
officially said, but like also you can

1876
01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:20,159
just,

1877
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:22,159
>> you know, as we're talking about budget

1878
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:22,880
like

1879
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,960
>> Yeah. And to be clear, I don't I don't

1880
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,320
think that we should be asking citizens

1881
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:27,840
to go through like an extra step to like

1882
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,520
report it this way. I think it should be

1883
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,920
us inputting information

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01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,600
>> um that we heard this from a citizen and

1885
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,600
then we will all have access to what we

1886
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,440
heard from a citizen.

1887
01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:41,520
Also, just a note, I I went to the

1888
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,400
budget email. I thought, but actually, I

1889
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,400
like um Elsie's idea of a shared

1890
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,480
document because it does take some

1891
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:51,199
effort to transcribe from one email into

1892
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:52,800
a shared doc. So, if we just start with

1893
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,239
a shared doc, it would probably be

1894
01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:55,679
better,

1895
01:14:55,679 --> 01:14:57,120
>> especially since you would just be

1896
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:58,960
relaying resident questions. It's

1897
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,120
dicier. If you have the question,

1898
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,040
everybody sees it on council. That's

1899
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,719
different. So, if it's just relaying a

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01:15:04,719 --> 01:15:06,080
resident question, I think a shared doc

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01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:06,719
would work.

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01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:07,600
>> Yeah.

1903
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And likewise, if people aren't

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01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,199
comfortable, they don't they don't want

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01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:12,640
us to follow up, they don't want their

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01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,400
name down, it can still be I heard from

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,040
a citizen this question, this comment,

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,400
and we can still have those in the

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01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:19,840
forefront as we're having the budget

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discussions.

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01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:31,189
>> Thank you.

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» Okay. Um, this was on for discussion

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approval.

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01:15:35,679 --> 01:15:36,320
>> Oh,

1915
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,320
>> I don't really Is there anything you

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01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,000
need to vote for from this? I mean,

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01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:40,880
besides

1918
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,440
>> Well, I'm I was thinking this was your

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01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:45,440
discussion about what your what is going

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01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:47,360
to do. So, it's up to you.

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:47,840
>> Yeah.

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01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,320
>> You haven't I Yeah, I would not ask you

1923
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,000
to direct us to do anything other than

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,920
maybe provide some more information if

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01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,760
there's something that you want coun uh

1926
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,000
staff to do. But other than that, it's

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01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,760
just if there was an approach that you

1928
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,600
wanted to decide on. And I don't want to

1929
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,000
like I guess we could vote on it, but

1930
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,360
like whenever we've been to an apartment

1931
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,600
complex, if Angela hasn't been available

1932
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,600
to bring to bring the budget games,

1933
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,920
she's always made herself available for

1934
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,159
me to pick it up. So like I would just

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01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:18,400
ask that you continue to be able to do

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01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,679
that, Angela. Um

1937
01:16:21,679 --> 01:16:23,840
but yeah, I mean I think like I think

1938
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,199
nobody is vastly against anything here.

1939
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:29,199
I think we definitely have some intrigue

1940
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:32,000
in the Wookski Youth Budget Lab. So, I

1941
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,440
will uh get to working on that. And I

1942
01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:37,520
think the other thing we have to do is

1943
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,199
start scheduling some councils in the

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01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:40,719
community. We have like our standard

1945
01:16:40,719 --> 01:16:43,040
ones, but if there's any thing that you

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01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,600
all think of as well of like a place we

1947
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:46,880
should go, right?

1948
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,640
>> Pumpkin carving.

1949
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:49,360
>> Pumpkin carbon.

1950
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,880
>> We will be pumpkin carving. Yes.

1951
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,560
You're just trying to You're just You're

1952
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,480
just trying to give me like PTSD in my

1953
01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:57,760
head or something.

1954
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,360
>> I'm saying it's a a highly attended Yes.

1955
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:02,320
>> gathering point.

1956
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>> It is. It is.

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>> Um

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Yeah. And then I mean I think like

1959
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>> And it's inside.

1960
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:11,920
>> Yeah. I mean I think everybody

1961
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,760
definitely shows up to that I feel like.

1962
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,719
But um I mean I think like you know a

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01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:19,760
part of the part of this conversation is

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01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,560
just the continued conversations that we

1965
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,840
keep trying to have and

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01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,600
reminding

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01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,560
residents how they can learn about the

1968
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,199
budget too, right? Like we are having

1969
01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:35,199
these conversation like yes we need to

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01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:37,840
go out and do stuff but also the actual

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01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,280
work is here. So if people can find a

1972
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:46,719
way to watch to come to watch later

1973
01:17:46,719 --> 01:17:48,239
listen to it as a podcast when they're

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01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:51,600
driving to work like we also should be

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01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,480
trying to drive people to like

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01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:58,080
that that source too. like it's when

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01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,960
we're having our conversations in here,

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01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,239
like we can have conversations with

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01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:03,760
people outside and we can bring it here

1980
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,360
and we can all discuss it, but it's

1981
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,440
it is super impactful and I get that not

1982
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:10,960
everybody can do it, but if we're having

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01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,640
a discussion about the budget and

1984
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,000
there's five people who are sitting

1985
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,360
right there and they're all like, "Whoa,

1986
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,040
whoa, whoa." Like, "What are you all

1987
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,000
talking about?" That also is, I think,

1988
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,520
kind of like some of the most impactful

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01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,520
stuff. Again, it's 6 p.m. on a Monday.

1990
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Not everybody can come. Um, but like if

1991
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,199
we can keep trying to remind people

1992
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:31,760
about one the existence of this meeting,

1993
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,280
like I still run into people who like

1994
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:34,960
have no idea when we meet, where we

1995
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,159
meet. So like the more we talk about

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01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:40,800
that, like the more we

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01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,640
post about it on our own personal social

1998
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,520
media when we're grabbing our coffee,

1999
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,360
say, "Have you ever seen a city council

2000
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,600
meeting?" Like,

2001
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,280
>> "How come we never see you at

2002
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,440
>> Yeah. Like, you know, you have so many

2003
01:18:53,440 --> 01:18:55,760
thoughts. I'd love to see you at city

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01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,000
hall if you're able to. Um,

2005
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,080
that also is super important work. And

2006
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,960
you know, I've been trying to encourage

2007
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,040
the commissions to do that. If you can

2008
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,719
encourage your commissioners to do that,

2009
01:19:08,719 --> 01:19:11,120
they hold a vast amount of knowledge as

2010
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,159
well. Um, and also that's another place,

2011
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:16,640
you know, that gives people, oh, we have

2012
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,239
five commissions, five different

2013
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:20,480
meetings that people can go to. And

2014
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:22,239
again, it's still on a weekday. It's

2015
01:19:22,239 --> 01:19:24,320
still at 6:00 or 5:30 whenever you all

2016
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,760
meet, but it gives more avenues for

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01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,360
people to show up during public comment

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01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,719
and and give a thought if possible. So,

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01:19:32,719 --> 01:19:38,080
um, great, great, great, great, great, Um, yeah, I don't think we need a

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,679
vote here. I think we're good. I also

2021
01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:41,120
wouldn't know what to say for us to have

2022
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,199
a vote. So,

2023
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:45,679
>> um, but I know we've got we've got some

2024
01:19:45,679 --> 01:19:49,440
good stuff and um I'll

2025
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:52,320
send you all those fun Outlook polls. I

2026
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,159
started thinking of some things for us

2027
01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:56,719
to do. Um, and yeah, if you see like an

2028
01:19:56,719 --> 01:19:58,640
event that's like happening in the city

2029
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,719
or like very close to, like we can, you

2030
01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:04,800
know, I can reach out and see if that's

2031
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,320
something that city council could table

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01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,000
at or that we could, you know, if we

2033
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,000
can't table, maybe a couple of us can

2034
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,679
just go and attend together and things

2035
01:20:11,679 --> 01:20:13,920
like that. So,

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01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,520
um, yeah. Awesome.

2037
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:16,239
>> If I may.

2038
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:18,800
>> Yes, please. And do let me know if if

2039
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,440
you all are appearing because uh I know

2040
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:22,800
you get a lot of questions you don't

2041
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,400
necessarily have the answer at the spare

2042
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,960
fingers and I might not either but I I

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01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,040
should have more that is what I'm pay to

2044
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,679
do. So that is also an important part of

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01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:32,159
my job.

2046
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:32,800
>> Yeah.

2047
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,239
>> So at least I wanted the opportunity to

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01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:35,360
check my calendar.

2049
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,520
>> Thank you. Appreciate that.

2050
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,040
>> Okay. Well, thanks all. Thanks. With

2051
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,159
that, the time is 7:24. I will uh seek a

2052
01:20:44,159 --> 01:20:45,600
motion to adjurnn tonight's meeting.

2053
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,360
>> So moved. All those in favor?

2054
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:47,760
>> I.

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01:20:47,760 --> 01:21:46,470
>> Wonderful. Thanks everyone.

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down.

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Hey